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Hey everybody. 
Welcome back to the Elon Musk 

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Podcast. 
This is a show where we discuss 

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the critical crossroads that 
shape SpaceX, Tesla X, The 

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Boring Company, and Neurolink. 
I'm your host, Will Walden. 

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Elon Musk announced Saturday his
intention to form the American 

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Party targeting specific 
congressional seats to control 

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swing votes on major 
legislation. 

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The announcement triggered a 7% 
drop in Tesla stock price on 

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Monday morning, pushing the EV 
maker toward its worst trading 

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day since June 5th of this year.
Now, Tesla shareholders have 

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grown increasingly frustrated 
with Elon Musk's political 

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activities, doing them as 
distractions from the company 

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score business challenges. 
Now, Elon outlined his vision 

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for a third party of politics 
that would compete for just two 

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or three Senate seats and eight 
to 10 House districts. 

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The Musk believes these targeted
races would give his party 

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enough leverage to act as the 
deciding vote on contentious 

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legislation. 
He claims this strategy would 

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ensure laws that serve the true 
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The announcement marks Musk's 
second major political 

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initiative this year following 
his controversial involvement 

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with Doe. 
The Tesla investors have 

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expressed mounting concern about
Musk's political ambitions 

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affecting the company's 
performance and brand image. 

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The automaker faces intense 
competition from Chinese 

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manufacturers like who have 
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share with lower priced EVs. 
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over year decline in vehicle 
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quarter, missing analyst 
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The company needs its CEO 
focused on product development 

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and manufacturing efficiency 
rather than building a political

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movement. 
Now, if you have a podcast 

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platform right now, if you're on
one right now that has comments,

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I need you to leave a comment 
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Do you think Elon Musk is in the
right here? 

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Should he be buying off senators
and buying off people in 

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politics to get his basically to
get his way and it pushed 

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through his agenda? 
Should we keep money out of 

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politics? 
Should politics be pure? 

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It's up to you to decide. 
Let's build this community 

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together now. 
I asked about a week ago for 

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some help and I really meant it 
and I really do appreciate 

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everybody who helped out when I 
asked for it because right now 

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as it is, this podcast needs as 
much help as possible to 

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continue doing what we do every 
single day. 

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I produce a podcast every single
day about Elon Musk and I've 

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been doing it for the last four 
years, over 1000 episodes. 

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And I'm dedicated to this and I 
will continue to be dedicated to

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this. 
But I absolutely need your help.

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I'm going to like, I don't do 
this ever, really. 

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I did it once before and that 
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But I absolutely need your help.
We're in dire straits here with 

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the show might not continue on. 
And if you could help us out, 

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the easy freeway to do that is 
to like this podcast in a way by

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subscribing or following the 
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need money to keep the lights 
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So if you can, Venmo, Wil Dash, 
WALDON, any amount would be 

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helpful. 
I greatly appreciated everybody 

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that did it last week. 
That was the best thing. 

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Opening up my app in the 
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dropped and seeing all of your 
support really did help me 

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continue doing these shows. 
And you know, it's not free to 

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do this. 
It takes a lot of effort, takes 

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a lot of time. 
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expensive, etcetera. 
So thank you so much for all of 

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your support. 
But let's get back to Elon Musk 

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and his America Party, and wow, 
it's it's wild that the Tesla 

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stock dropped because of it. 
Now Dan Ives, who is the global 

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head of technology research at 
Wedbush Securities, captured 

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investor sentiment on a Sunday 
research note. 

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I've stated that Musk diving 
deeper into politics and now 

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trying to take on the Beltway 
establishment is exactly the 

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opposite direction that Tesla 
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him to take during this crucial 
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For Tesla, it's a broader sense 
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For many Tesla investors, the 
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political track. 
The Musk relationship with 

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President Donald Trump has 
deteriorated significantly since

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their initial collaboration. 
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with Trump through DOGE in early
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The partnership soured over 
disagreements about federal 

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spending bills, with Musk 
arguing that Trump's proposals 

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would dramatically increase 
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Now, he's particularly 
criticized cuts tax credits for 

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solar energy, wind power and 
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And President Trump responded in
kind to Musk's announcement on 

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Sunday by calling the new 
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Trump accused the test the CEO, 
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rails and suggests this the move
represented a personal vendetta 

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rather than genuine political 
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Now, the president's harsh 
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their falling out after months 
of public disputes over energy 

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policy and government spending. 
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Trump views Musk's party as a 
direct challenge to his 

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administration's agenda. 
Now, Elon Musk said he could be 

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around and his party would be 
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Donald Trump will only be around
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Elon Musk has billions of 
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If that's all he does is create 
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It will be around until long 
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our kids are gone and their kids
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gone. 
And Elon Musk's legacy could 

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live on through this America 
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The timing of this political 
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creates additional pressure for 
Tesla during a critical period. 

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Chinese competitors BYD Neo have
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international markets, which 
Elon Musk and Tesla are trying 

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to take over. 
The companies benefit from lower

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manufacturing costs and 
government subsidies that allow 

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aggressive pricing strategies. 
They're pushing Tesla out, and 

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Tesla must defeat them in every 
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They must defend its market 
position while simultaneously 

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investing billions in new 
battery tech and autonomous 

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driving and capabilities. 
No, we have to worry about 

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political activities, and it'll 
consume the time and attention 

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of Musk. 
That's the attention that he 

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needs to dedicate to Tesla's 
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The company faces production 
bottlenecks at its newer 

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facilities in Texas and Germany.
Supply line disruptions continue

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to affect battery cell 
availability and semiconductor 

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procurement. 
Tesla's engineering teams 

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require executive leadership to 
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next generation vehicle 
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processes. 
And if Elon Musk is out there 

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doing other things politically, 
he can't be with the Tesla 

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employees. 
Think about it, for a while when

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he was at DOGE, there were some 
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we want Elon back. 
You know, we're here because we 

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believe in Elon, we believe in 
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in Elon Musk and his vision for 
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We love the technology 
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We build the technology every 
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We want to continue working 
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Elon's the spark that keeps this
place going, and that's how they

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feel about this, too. 
The formation of this new 

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political party requires 
substantial financial resources.

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They get organizational 
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And if Musk would need to 
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it's going to take the time away
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companies like SpaceX, Boring 
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to take all the time away from 
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into politics again. 
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that competitive congressional 
races typically require millions

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of dollars in campaign spending.
Could he hire people to do these

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jobs for him? 
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But it's going to take him time 
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His involvement in this would 
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federal election regulators, of 
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opposition. 
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pretty much they all talk to 
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They're all buddy, buddy. 
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the left and the right, Donald 
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Obama, Bill Clinton, you know, 
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You'd see them all together. 
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pretend that there's two sides, 
but they're all the same thing 

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almost. 
I'm an American. 

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I've been an American my whole 
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I was born here and it's pretty 
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Blatantly obvious if you look at
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These people are in it together 
and it's all a dog and pony 

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show, man. 
And I'm just saying this as a 

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person who looks at things from 
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somebody who I don't affiliate 
myself with the party, affiliate

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myself with people who are good 
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And everybody that's a 
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recently, they just, they're in 
it for themselves, They're in it

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for their team. 
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great, right? 
So Elon has his own team now, 

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his third party and the 
formation of this new party, 

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it's going to take a lot of 
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Tesla shareholder holders don't 
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They remember the negative 
impact of Musk's previous 

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political ventures on the 
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His association with Doge 
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They started burning down his 
facilities and his Tesla 

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showrooms because they didn't 
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government and the subsidies for
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There were protests everywhere. 
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against Elon Musk just months 
ago to get him out of the White 

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House and get him away from 
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And now is this just smoke and 
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Think about it for a minute. 
Elon and Trump, they're both 

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egotistical. 
You have to know that. 

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If you don't know that, if you 
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you don't think he has 
sociopathic means. 

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I mean, he's said himself that 
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He doesn't hire people with 
empathy. 

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He doesn't want people with 
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He doesn't want people to use 
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He wants them to just crank out 
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So him himself, himself, does he
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He might, but he's a savage in 
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Absolute savage. 
Shareholders don't want him to 

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go away. 
Shareholders don't want him to 

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use the same time that he used 
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They want their money. 
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Tesla, you want to cash out. 
You don't want anything to get 

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in your way of getting that big 
paycheck because 1, you aren't 

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building Teslas, you aren't 
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You put your money into it and 
you gambled on Elon. 

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You put $100,000 on Elon years 
ago, maybe you have $1,000,000 

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now. 
Maybe you want that $1,000,000 

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to go to 4,000,005 million, 
6,000,007 million because fully 

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autonomous car service, fully 
autonomous Uber style cyber 

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cabs. 
Who wouldn't want to do that? 

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That's a continuous stream of 
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That's you just making bank all 
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Uber, think about the money that
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Add that to the Tesla portfolio 
and also add in the way MO 

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money, add in the Lyft money all
around the world and then you 

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don't pay the drivers either. 
So you get a ride and you don't 

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pay the drivers. 
You just have a car. 

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Think about all that money. 
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just the Tesla robot, but the 
robotics that Tesla could 

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eventually build in the AI that 
they can license self driving 

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technology, proprietary self 
self driving technology that 

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they could license to other 
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But if you have some money into 
Tesla, you want that money to 

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continue to grow over your 
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or so. 
And if Elon is out doing things 

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in politics, you don't think 
he's paying attention to Tesla, 

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do you? 
Can he do everything? 

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I don't know. 
SpaceX is having a tough time. 

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SpaceX is blowing up rockets 
left and right down to Starbase.

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3 or 4 Starships have blown up 
mid air because there weren't 

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protocols in place for them to 
fix the issues how they thought 

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they fixed the issues. 
Of course it's a listen, it's a 

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it's a prototype. 
We all know it's a prototype. 

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Starship is a prototype. 
Things like this will happen but

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not the same thing repeatedly. 
And that's why there's an 

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investigation on Starship right 
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just from Elon and SpaceX, but 
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Yes, I think the shareholders 
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Elon Musk will be taking 
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closer to Technical Support 
levels that traders monitor now.

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The shares fell as much as 7.3% 
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recovering a little bit midday. 
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Elon stated goal of creating a 
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faces obstacles to third parties
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America's two party system due 
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fundraising disadvantages which 
he doesn't have and strategic 

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voting patterns. 
But we have AI, we have Grok, we

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have XAI to take care of that 
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Political scientists point to a 
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funded third party efforts. 
Ross Perot, remember that guy he

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was in the Reform Party and also
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various independent initiatives.
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America Party, we need to 
overcome everything that they 

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couldn't do. 
Ross Perot had ungodly amounts 

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Michael Bloomberg, same thing. 

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Can you do it? 
I mean, if anybody could, it 

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probably be probably be Elon. 
He might be able to crack the 

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code. 
But we will see if it does 

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really hurt Tesla, could the 
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Just I don't know if it's up in 
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And that's another variable to 
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thesis. 
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risk alongside traditional 
metrics like vehicle deliveries,

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gross margins and technology 
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You know, people may start 
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exposure or unpredictable 
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It's not safe if Elon's try to 
take on big government, you 

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know, if he's trying to take on 
the Republican Party, somebody 

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who can be nasty, Donald Trump 
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Taking on the Democratic Party, 
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And if you're going to fight 
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take their power and their money
away. 

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Oh, they will fight you, you 
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The company's board of directors
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shareholder concerns now about 
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governance of Tesla. 
But does he want to fight both 

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parties? 
I mean, he's in it to win it, 

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right? 
We're going to see. 

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But with Elon launching this 
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struggling a little bit with 
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fundamental questions about his 
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The 7% stock decline reflects 
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People just don't really want 
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want his political stuff. 
They just want their money to 

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make money for them. 
That's why they invested. 

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They believe in Tesla, they 
believe in the vision, they 

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believe in Elon, but they didn't
sign up for this. 

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And that's why some people 
either sold their stock or just 

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didn't invest as much this time 
around. 

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They need focus right now. 
They need focused execution to 

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maintain the position as the top
EV company in the United States.

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Hyundai's coming for them. 
BYD, you know, in other 

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countries. 
So Elon going to do his 

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political party and maybe it's 
going to hurt Tesla little bit. 

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Tesla's very, very, very well 
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Let's just say that. 
I'm going to say it's 

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overpriced, but the only place 
it could go is up from here. 

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It's a technology company. 
It's not a car company. 

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It's an AI company. 
It's not a car company. 

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It's a robot company. 
It's not a car company anymore. 

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Elon Musk. 
But remember, I want to, I want 

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you to remember this too. 
Elon Musk, when it was favorable

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for him to be on the side of 
progressive Democrats. 

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He was a progressive Democrat. 
And this is for business. 

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He did this for business. 
He was part of the Green 

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Initiative. 
That's why people bought into 

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Tesla. 
Great marketing. 

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I thought it was cool. 
I don't want to go to the gas 

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pump anymore. 
I want a self-sustaining vehicle

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that I could charge at my house.
Why would I want to pay all 

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these oil companies all this 
money when I could just plug my 

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car in at night, let it trickle 
charge overnight? 

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That sounds like a great idea. 
And then when Trump got into 

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office, like before that, he 
could see the the winds of 

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change shifting. 
So his mindset shifted to the 

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Republican Party. 
He was all in hundreds of 

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millions of dollars, almost $400
million into the Trump campaign,

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amongst other campaigns full in.
And now because that's not 

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favorable anymore, mainly 
because people started burning 

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down Tesla showrooms, people 
worth having, millions of 

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people, millions of people were 
marching against him. 

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He saw the shift again and he's 
moving to his own political 

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party. 
So he's not part of the 

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Republican Party or part of the 
Democratic Party. 

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He's going to do his own thing. 
I want you to take a step back. 

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Don't think about your own 
party. 

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If you're Republican, you can 
always be a Republican. 

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If you're a Democrat, you can 
always be a Democrat. 

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But step back, Look at what he 
did. 

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Look at his timeline. 
Just think to yourself, why is 

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he doing this party? 
Is he doing it so he can get 

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some power back, maybe some 
power back so he can pass the 

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legislation that he needs, so he
can get subsidies for Tesla, so 

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he can continue building Tesla 
into the most influential 

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company of all time, and also 
those subsidies for SpaceX? 

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Just take a step back. 
We're going to have another 

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episode about all that in the 
coming days. 

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So again, thank you so much for 
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I appreciate you 100%. 
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a little note. 
I'll let you know, you know, 

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I'll let you know how it's 
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I'll write back to you. 
If you have a, a comment, let me

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That's a good way to get a hold 

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you. 
As long as it's within reason, 

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of course. 
And let's just let's just do one

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from last time. 
Let's just say from JW, you know

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who you are. 
JW Thanks for the show. 

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I'll try to make this regular, 
make this a regular donation. 

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JW Thank you so much. 
And then we have B. 

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I'm just using letters. 
So BR thanks, Will, for 

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everything you do. 
I appreciate all the time you 

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put into the show. 
Love it, keep it going. 

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And then they donated $35. 
I was, I'm so touched by this. 

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That's only two of them, though.
There were more. 

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And I can talk about those in 
another episode. 

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So if you want to, if you want 
your message read, if you have a

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question, Venmo at Will Dash 
Walden, that's me. 

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Will Walden. 
I'm your host and I'll let you 

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know let you know how it goes 
and I'll read your note on the 

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air. 
We'll start the shows with those

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in the future. 
OK, That's that's my promise to 

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you. 
We'll start that coming up in 

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the next few days. 
Questions to me, put them out 

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first. 
Could be about Elon, could be 

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about Tesla, could be about 
SpaceX. 

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Just let me know. 
All right, everybody, thank you 

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