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Elon Musk announced Saturday his intention to form the American
Party targeting specific congressional seats to control
swing votes on major legislation.
The announcement triggered a 7% drop in Tesla stock price on
Monday morning, pushing the EV maker toward its worst trading
day since June 5th of this year. Now, Tesla shareholders have
grown increasingly frustrated with Elon Musk's political
activities, doing them as distractions from the company
score business challenges. Now, Elon outlined his vision
for a third party of politics that would compete for just two
or three Senate seats and eight to 10 House districts.
The Musk believes these targeted races would give his party
enough leverage to act as the deciding vote on contentious
legislation. He claims this strategy would
ensure laws that serve the true will of the people.
The announcement marks Musk's second major political
initiative this year following his controversial involvement
with Doe. The Tesla investors have
expressed mounting concern about Musk's political ambitions
affecting the company's performance and brand image.
The automaker faces intense competition from Chinese
manufacturers like who have captured significant market
share with lower priced EVs. And Tesla reported a 14% year
over year decline in vehicle deliveries during the second
quarter, missing analyst expectations.
The company needs its CEO focused on product development
and manufacturing efficiency rather than building a political
movement. Now, if you have a podcast
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your support. But let's get back to Elon Musk
and his America Party, and wow, it's it's wild that the Tesla
stock dropped because of it. Now Dan Ives, who is the global
head of technology research at Wedbush Securities, captured
investor sentiment on a Sunday research note.
I've stated that Musk diving deeper into politics and now
trying to take on the Beltway establishment is exactly the
opposite direction that Tesla investors and shareholders want
him to take during this crucial period.
For Tesla, it's a broader sense of exhaustion.
For many Tesla investors, the Musk keeps heading down the
political track. The Musk relationship with
President Donald Trump has deteriorated significantly since
their initial collaboration. The Tesla CEO worked closely
with Trump through DOGE in early 2025 before leaving in May.
The partnership soured over disagreements about federal
spending bills, with Musk arguing that Trump's proposals
would dramatically increase America's debt burden.
Now, he's particularly criticized cuts tax credits for
solar energy, wind power and EVs.
And President Trump responded in kind to Musk's announcement on
Sunday by calling the new political party ridiculous.
Trump accused the test the CEO, of going completely off the
rails and suggests this the move represented a personal vendetta
rather than genuine political conviction.
Now, the president's harsh reaction indicates the depth of
their falling out after months of public disputes over energy
policy and government spending. White House sources suggest
Trump views Musk's party as a direct challenge to his
administration's agenda. Now, Elon Musk said he could be
around and his party would be around for centuries.
Donald Trump will only be around for about 3 more years because
Elon Musk has billions of dollars to put behind this.
If that's all he does is create a fund for this party.
It will be around until long after we're all dead and after
our kids are gone and their kids are gone and their kids are
gone. And Elon Musk's legacy could
live on through this America party.
The timing of this political announcement from Elon Musk
creates additional pressure for Tesla during a critical period.
Chinese competitors BYD Neo have expanded rapidly in
international markets, which Elon Musk and Tesla are trying
to take over. The companies benefit from lower
manufacturing costs and government subsidies that allow
aggressive pricing strategies. They're pushing Tesla out, and
Tesla must defeat them in every market.
They must defend its market position while simultaneously
investing billions in new battery tech and autonomous
driving and capabilities. No, we have to worry about
political activities, and it'll consume the time and attention
of Musk. That's the attention that he
needs to dedicate to Tesla's operational challenges.
The company faces production bottlenecks at its newer
facilities in Texas and Germany. Supply line disruptions continue
to affect battery cell availability and semiconductor
procurement. Tesla's engineering teams
require executive leadership to make crucial decisions about
next generation vehicle platforms and manufacturing
processes. And if Elon Musk is out there
doing other things politically, he can't be with the Tesla
employees. Think about it, for a while when
he was at DOGE, there were some Tesla employees that just said
we want Elon back. You know, we're here because we
believe in Elon, we believe in Tesla, but more so, we believe
in Elon Musk and his vision for the future of Tesla.
We love the technology ourselves.
We build the technology every day.
We want to continue working here, but without Elon.
Elon's the spark that keeps this place going, and that's how they
feel about this, too. The formation of this new
political party requires substantial financial resources.
They get organizational infrastructure.
And if Musk would need to recruit new candidates for this,
it's going to take the time away from Tesla and his other
companies like SpaceX, Boring Company, Neuron, like it's going
to take all the time away from them just so he can dip his toe
into politics again. Political consultants estimate
that competitive congressional races typically require millions
of dollars in campaign spending. Could he hire people to do these
jobs for him? Of course.
But it's going to take him time in order to hire these people.
His involvement in this would likely trigger scrutiny from
federal election regulators, of course, because he's their
opposition. Now, there's two parties, which
pretty much they all talk to each other.
They're all buddy, buddy. If you've ever seen any videos,
the left and the right, Donald Trump hangs out with Barack
Obama, Bill Clinton, you know, Hillary Clinton too.
You'd see them all together. It's kind of funny how they
pretend that there's two sides, but they're all the same thing
almost. I'm an American.
I've been an American my whole life.
I was born here and it's pretty blatantly obvious.
Blatantly obvious if you look at it from up on high.
These people are in it together and it's all a dog and pony
show, man. And I'm just saying this as a
person who looks at things from a different perspective, as
somebody who I don't affiliate myself with the party, affiliate
myself with people who are good people.
And everybody that's a politician that I've seen
recently, they just, they're in it for themselves, They're in it
for their team. And if their team wins, that's
great, right? So Elon has his own team now,
his third party and the formation of this new party,
it's going to take a lot of resources.
Tesla shareholder holders don't want to lose Elon.
They remember the negative impact of Musk's previous
political ventures on the company's brand of the sales.
His association with Doge alienated customers.
They started burning down his facilities and his Tesla
showrooms because they didn't want him to be ripping apart the
government and the subsidies for people that need it.
There were protests everywhere. Millions of people marched
against Elon Musk just months ago to get him out of the White
House and get him away from Trump.
And now is this just smoke and mirrors by Elon?
Think about it for a minute. Elon and Trump, they're both
egotistical. You have to know that.
If you don't know that, if you don't think Elon is egotistical,
you don't think he has sociopathic means.
I mean, he's said himself that empathy is a shortcoming.
He doesn't hire people with empathy.
He doesn't want people with empathy next to him.
He doesn't want people to use their feelings.
He wants them to just crank out work.
So him himself, himself, does he have some empathy?
He might, but he's a savage in business.
Absolute savage. Shareholders don't want him to
go away. Shareholders don't want him to
use the same time that he used for DOGE for this new party.
They want their money. If you're a shareholder in
Tesla, you want to cash out. You don't want anything to get
in your way of getting that big paycheck because 1, you aren't
building Teslas, you aren't building the company.
You put your money into it and you gambled on Elon.
You put $100,000 on Elon years ago, maybe you have $1,000,000
now. Maybe you want that $1,000,000
to go to 4,000,005 million, 6,000,007 million because fully
autonomous car service, fully autonomous Uber style cyber
cabs. Who wouldn't want to do that?
That's a continuous stream of money 24/7.
That's you just making bank all the time.
Uber, think about the money that Uber makes.
Add that to the Tesla portfolio and also add in the way MO
money, add in the Lyft money all around the world and then you
don't pay the drivers either. So you get a ride and you don't
pay the drivers. You just have a car.
Think about all that money. And then also the robotics, not
just the Tesla robot, but the robotics that Tesla could
eventually build in the AI that they can license self driving
technology, proprietary self self driving technology that
they could license to other competitors.
But if you have some money into Tesla, you want that money to
continue to grow over your lifetime or over next few years
or so. And if Elon is out doing things
in politics, you don't think he's paying attention to Tesla,
do you? Can he do everything?
I don't know. SpaceX is having a tough time.
SpaceX is blowing up rockets left and right down to Starbase.
3 or 4 Starships have blown up mid air because there weren't
protocols in place for them to fix the issues how they thought
they fixed the issues. Of course it's a listen, it's a
it's a prototype. We all know it's a prototype.
Starship is a prototype. Things like this will happen but
not the same thing repeatedly. And that's why there's an
investigation on Starship right now and why it's exploding not
just from Elon and SpaceX, but also from the government.
Yes, I think the shareholders are correct in assuming that
Elon Musk will be taking attention away from his Tesla
duties. But on Monday, the stock price
declined and erased billions in market value and pushed Tesla
closer to Technical Support levels that traders monitor now.
The shares fell as much as 7.3% in early trading before
recovering a little bit midday. Still down by the end of the
day. Now.
Elon stated goal of creating a kingmaker party in Congress
faces obstacles to third parties historically struggle in
America's two party system due to ballot access requirements,
fundraising disadvantages which he doesn't have and strategic
voting patterns. But we have AI, we have Grok, we
have XAI to take care of that right.
Political scientists point to a failure of previous billionaire
funded third party efforts. Ross Perot, remember that guy he
was in the Reform Party and also remember Michael Bloomberg had
various independent initiatives. Now, the America Party, Elon's
America Party, we need to overcome everything that they
couldn't do. Ross Perot had ungodly amounts
of money. Michael Bloomberg, same thing.
Can you do it? I mean, if anybody could, it
probably be probably be Elon. He might be able to crack the
code. But we will see if it does
really hurt Tesla, could the board kick him off?
Just I don't know if it's up in the air right now.
And that's another variable to Tesla's complex investment
thesis. We got a factor in political
risk alongside traditional metrics like vehicle deliveries,
gross margins and technology development.
And we don't want to away from the traditional metrics.
You know, people may start reducing Tesla holdings to avoid
exposure or unpredictable political developments.
It's not safe if Elon's try to take on big government, you
know, if he's trying to take on the Republican Party, somebody
who can be nasty, Donald Trump can be nasty.
Taking on the Democratic Party, they could be nasty, too.
And if you're going to fight against them, you're going to
take their power and their money away.
Oh, they will fight you, you know.
The company's board of directors faces pressure to address
shareholder concerns now about Elon Musk's focus and corporate
governance of Tesla. But does he want to fight both
parties? I mean, he's in it to win it,
right? We're going to see.
But with Elon launching this America party and Tesla
struggling a little bit with competitive pressures raises
fundamental questions about his responsibility in Tesla.
The 7% stock decline reflects investor skepticism.
People just don't really want it, you know, they just don't
want his political stuff. They just want their money to
make money for them. That's why they invested.
They believe in Tesla, they believe in the vision, they
believe in Elon, but they didn't sign up for this.
And that's why some people either sold their stock or just
didn't invest as much this time around.
They need focus right now. They need focused execution to
maintain the position as the top EV company in the United States.
Hyundai's coming for them. BYD, you know, in other
countries. So Elon going to do his
political party and maybe it's going to hurt Tesla little bit.
Tesla's very, very, very well priced right now.
Let's just say that. I'm going to say it's
overpriced, but the only place it could go is up from here.
It's a technology company. It's not a car company.
It's an AI company. It's not a car company.
It's a robot company. It's not a car company anymore.
Elon Musk. But remember, I want to, I want
you to remember this too. Elon Musk, when it was favorable
for him to be on the side of progressive Democrats.
He was a progressive Democrat. And this is for business.
He did this for business. He was part of the Green
Initiative. That's why people bought into
Tesla. Great marketing.
I thought it was cool. I don't want to go to the gas
pump anymore. I want a self-sustaining vehicle
that I could charge at my house. Why would I want to pay all
these oil companies all this money when I could just plug my
car in at night, let it trickle charge overnight?
That sounds like a great idea. And then when Trump got into
office, like before that, he could see the the winds of
change shifting. So his mindset shifted to the
Republican Party. He was all in hundreds of
millions of dollars, almost $400 million into the Trump campaign,
amongst other campaigns full in. And now because that's not
favorable anymore, mainly because people started burning
down Tesla showrooms, people worth having, millions of
people, millions of people were marching against him.
He saw the shift again and he's moving to his own political
party. So he's not part of the
Republican Party or part of the Democratic Party.
He's going to do his own thing. I want you to take a step back.
Don't think about your own party.
If you're Republican, you can always be a Republican.
If you're a Democrat, you can always be a Democrat.
But step back, Look at what he did.
Look at his timeline. Just think to yourself, why is
he doing this party? Is he doing it so he can get
some power back, maybe some power back so he can pass the
legislation that he needs, so he can get subsidies for Tesla, so
he can continue building Tesla into the most influential
company of all time, and also those subsidies for SpaceX?
Just take a step back. We're going to have another
episode about all that in the coming days.
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