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Hey everybody, welcome back to 
the show. 

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I have with me today, Neal 
Thorne part of our team. 

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And today, we're going to be 
talking about the upcoming 

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testing of this Starship, super 
heavy vehicle and the orbital 

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flight test, that could be 
coming in the next month or two.

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Are you doing you good? 
How are you doing? 

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Well, I'm doing fantastic. 
Thank you very much. 

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Awesome. 
So we have some, some really 

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exciting things happening down 
at Starbase Texas with the the 

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Starship super heavy vehicle. 
There's on Going testing ships, 

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been stacked. 
On top of booster seven 

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recently. 
Oh, I love that video to see the

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Drone video of that SpaceX. 
Put out of that. 

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Yeah, I cried. 
I cried a little bit. 

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That was amazing. 
A is insane. 

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I'm so the cool thing is Ilan 
has been tweeting about, you 

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know, the Starships going to 
launch soon. 

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Starship launch next. 
Couple months over the last like

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four or five months. 
He's been saying those things 

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and he's also said last year, 
but now SpaceX actually tweeted.

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Something and said, hey we're 
getting ready for this launch 

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and that's a pretty good 
indicator that SpaceX is Twitter

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account. 
You know, they said that. 

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And I mean are you suggesting 
even for a moment that Elon 

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might exaggerate timelines? 
I would never I would never say 

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that Ilan. 
The I think it's very optimistic

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with his predictions but as an 
engineer I can see where he 

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would think that things were 
moving fast and that things 

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aren't going to go wrong. 
Wrong. 

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And if everything goes well, you
know, things are just going to 

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move straight forward and things
are going to fly like the 

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Starship is going to fly. 
So now that we have sort of 

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confirmation, I guess from 
SpaceX that that's going to 

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happen, maybe late February, 
March ish, according to SpaceX 

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is, you know, a tweet, which 
they said they have to do a 

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3300, static fire, and they also
have to do some more cryo 

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testing, and tank testing and 
things like that. 

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So we'll see what happens. 
You know, in my research, just 

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to what we're going to talk 
about on this show and how it's 

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going to go. 
It was amazing. 

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All the different things that 
are going to have to happen. 

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Before this thing go much, it's 
quite a complex process. 

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Yeah. 
There's a lot of moving parts 

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and yeah, the thing that's the 
thing that's really important 

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that Elon is mentioned in the 
past is the the orbital launch 

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Mount and how important that is 
to the whole thing, like the 

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stage zero stage 0 and if 
anything happens to that thing. 

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So Oh, they're going very 
cautiously and they're working 

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hard to get everything in place 
with the, you know, the testing 

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schedule that they have right 
now. 

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So I think overall we need to 
everybody needs to remember 

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that. 
This is just a test vehicle, 

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right? 
It's a test vehicle as much as 

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the launch mode is everything. 
It's never launched anything 

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before. 
Everything is a test right now, 

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man, if anything goes wrong, 
hey, it's part of the testing, 

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you know, and they expect things
to go wrong. 

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There's In numerous times, that 
a line has said, it's going to 

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be cool if it leaves, you know, 
leaves the pad and actually 

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clears the tower. 
And if yeah it's the most 

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dangerous part of this whole 
thing. 

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Yep. 
And not only from just the 

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engineering of how it in the 
physics of getting this rocket 

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out of this, you know, beyond 
the towers range. 

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Getting it off the ground to 
begin with is the hardest part. 

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But also, if anything does go 
wrong it will destroy that Tower

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and set them back months and 
months. 

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Yeah. 
And you know the FAA is part of 

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that hole. 
Process to because they'll have 

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to report everything. 
The FAA, even though it is a 

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test vehicle and the FAA is 
aware of that. 

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Next, we'll have to make sure 
that the FAA is aware of what 

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happens in why that's ship, you 
know, write it on the pad but 

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lets you want to talk about 
what's going on like at Starbase

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right now, before we get into 
the actual launch itself. 

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Oh, for sure. 
Yeah, yeah, let's let's go over,

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what's happened? 
I think the ultimate goal is to 

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not read on the Launchpad so 
we'll talk about what they're 

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doing to prevent that. 
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Now, we've got stacked Starship,
we've got before on top of 

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booster 7 sitting on the launch 
Mount, what's next? 

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Well, they're doing cryo tests 
today. 

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There's been numerous tests, 
starting today. 

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In, there were some yesterday, 
there were some very, very small

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initial tests yesterday, which 
only lasted if somebody 

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yesterday might have been to the
ground ground level stuff that 

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they were testing, yet the 
ground system, making sure 

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ground systems. 
Making sure all the valves and 

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all the cryostat. 
Duff was working on the ground 

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before they started working on 
the ship. 

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Yep. 
And today they're they're 

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filling the thing up but fill it
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It looks like they're filling up
the booster booster 7. 

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I haven't seen any condensation 
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it looks like they're testing 
the internals of the booster and

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filling it up and doing some 
cryo test with that. 

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So yeah, pretty much, I think 
most likely using liquid 

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nitrogen as opposed to methane 
to just to test things out. 

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Yep. 
Get it cold. 

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Get it right cold? 
Yeah exactly. 

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And moving on. 
From here, I mean, they're going

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What is it week or so down 

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there. 
So it shows that they're going 

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to be testing between like 8 
a.m. and 8:00 p.m. yeah 8 a.m. 

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and 8 p.m. a whole 12 hour test 
schedule so they could possibly 

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do numerous tests in a day but 
we're not going to see a static 

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fire any time soon. 
Not at all no ice. 

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And as far as I'm aware, I think
they're done with status firing 

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as 24. 
I think they're they've finished

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with that unless they prove me 
wrong of course. 

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But say It seems to me that this
next month is month and a half. 

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Two months is all sort of my 
guess is that they're doing a 

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lot more recording of the tests 
and and documenting of the test 

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so that they can formally submit
something to the FAA to get this

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thing off. 
The ground, sort of going 

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through a process more than just
going through tests. 

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Yeah, I believe so too and ship 
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Like you said, was it's been 
tested since July June June or 

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July of this year like that? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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And and s24 before that, like 
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many cryos on these vehicles, 
that there's really no point in 

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doing them, except to make sure 
that they've got everything 

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documented in their got all 
their T's crossed. 

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And there's I doubted. 
Yeah, and after the booster 

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seven static fires, they've 
done. 

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Fuse, different static fires 
with booster 7. 

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So they have to make sure that 
the internal still work before 

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they, you know, have a stack of 
ship 24 on top of it. 

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And also, you know, they got to 
make sure that those things 

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work. 
So when they actually do a full 

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wet dress rehearsal and then 
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and they'll have to do a wet 
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rehearsal before the static fire
to make sure everything was 

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absolutely ship and the booster 
And so I think, I don't know. 

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I the timeline here is kind of 
it's It's kind of rolling, 

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right? 
So we don't know exactly what 

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they're testing right now. 
We know they're doing cryo 

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testing, we're going to be 
testing the internals. 

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Yeah, we can physically see 
what's being tested by the fact 

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that something is getting Frosty
or not Frosty or you know, it's 

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foggy here or not foggy there 
but there's also probably a lot 

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more going on behind the scenes 
that we have no idea. 

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Yeah there's a lot of data 
collection going on. 

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On and start base headquarters 
and at SpaceX headquarters in 

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Hawthorne and lot of data data 
analyst kind of processes going 

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on right now in once all that 
happened. 

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Like once the cryo stuff, seems 
okay. 

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Like what those what's all those
tests are done. 

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They're going to do the full wet
dress rehearsal, basically 

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getting the ship, and the 
booster ready for flight, and 

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then just not hitting the button
to go. 

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I guess what? 
It seems like right now. 

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That seems like the next 
possible stage. 

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That's right. 
Yeah, once they've done all the 

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cryo so maybe wet dress is next 
might as well. 

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Make sure everything's running 
the engines Prime up and start 

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spinning and and then canceled 
last second before you hit the 

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fire button, right? 
And that's the important part, 

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right? 
Yeah. 

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The launch the sharing have it 
clamped down to just? 

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Yeah, well, having them down. 
Yeah. 

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And they have a clamp down for 
sure. 

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And that's what they were 
testing. 

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I guess last week, or week 
before, they had the huge amount

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of weight on those clamps. 
To test that the weight that 

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they are, the forces that they 
may encounter during a static 

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fire and actually the firing of 
the the rocket. 

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So just testing to make sure 
that those are strong enough to 

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withstand 33 engines doing a 
static fire. 

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Yeah. 
And so I'm will get into this a 

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little bit later but that's the 
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impressive but first they have 
to remove the ship from the 

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booster, right? 
They have to take the ship off. 

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I had thoughts about Boat that. 
I mean they probably will they 

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probably will remove s24 from 
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they leave it in place to see 
what, what happens, what kind of

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vibrations, they can feel and 
how does that? 

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How does the the connection 
point? 

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The fueling Point, all that 
stuff. 

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How does that actually interact 
with the vibrations that are 

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coming from Below? 
I wonder if they leave it on top

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for a static fire. 
Maybe maybe not 33 engines, but 

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perhaps some there would be a 
would be a because they haven't 

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done that yet, right? 
They haven't actually seen, I'm 

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sure they've they've monitored 
the vibrations that are 

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happening throughout the 
booster, but they haven't done 

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it with a ship on top. 
Yeah, that's true. 

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You know, they could do and if I
were putting something door, but

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I'd certainly want to know how 
it's going to react before you 

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do that. 
Yeah, I agree. 

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I agree with you, so what? 
There's a few different theories

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here is one is the they leave it
on for a few engines. 

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If you had just had a fire maybe
like a 10 or 15 engine static 

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fire and you know just like you 
said, the vibrations make sure 

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everything stays in place, ten 
or ten or fifteen like they've 

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ever done more than a life. 
Like no big deal. 

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Nobody does filmmaker 1520. 
Who knows, throat? 

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Yeah, whatever. 
Whatever number they feel like. 

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But they have 33 engines. 
So they have to kind of get a 

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feel of what it's going to be 
like to Forecast a ton of 

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engines, you know? 
Like the 33 engines is going to 

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be an insane, insane sight to 
see. 

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So in here it here. 
Yeah. 

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That's going to be another 
thing. 

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It's going to be loud and it's 
going to be possibly destructive

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to the to the pad but we'll also
talk about that a little bit 

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later. 
Yeah. 

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That mean they certainly tried 
to tried to reinforce the pad. 

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I think we saw a video or photo 
yesterday about SpaceX looks 

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like they're testing concrete 
testing engine block. 

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X just to see what kind of 
concrete might be able to 

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withstand these forces better. 
So yeah, they're certainly 

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certainly anticipating some 
damage to the tower. 

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Well every static fire before 
this from from the booster 

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there's been some sort of damage
to the to the pad to the can 

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already see new things, added 
new shields added to the the 

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still little legs and different 
things. 

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Yeah. 
So it's going to be an 

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interesting thing to say, It's 
gotta be wild. 

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Nobody's ever shot a rocket this
power. 

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Pull up. 
Yeah. 

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So so so the when you were 
saying the static fire of the 

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ship, you know, ship 24 on top 
of the booster so going back to 

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the theories that are out there 
right now. 

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There's one well do 10 to 15 
engine static fire with the ship

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on top but also if they do that,
the May remove the ship and move

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it to the side. 
Remove the lift points on the 

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ship. 
And then fill those in with 

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thermal protection, which right?
You know, which is probably one 

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of the things that they're going
to do anyway, you know, so 

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everything yet. 
So the lift points being where 

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they would lift the, the ship of
the Kareem res opposed to using 

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the Chopsticks, right? 
Right. 

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And then they put it back on top
and then they would do an actual

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33. 
Static fire 3300, static fire 

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with it on top and that may be 
an FAA ruling, you know, they 

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may have requirement. 
Yeah, it may have to do it will 

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be full, static fire because 
they do, It with every other 

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ship, you know, Falcon heavy, 
they do it. 

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They do with Falcon 9, they do 
with every other. 

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Rock it out there, they do quick
static fire. 

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It doesn't have to be long. 
It's just like just like Falcon 

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boosters landing on chips. 
This will all seem s, you know, 

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old hat and before you know it 
they'll still have a booster 

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rocket on top of a booster. 
They'll they'll fire up thirty 

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three engines in the next day 
off, they go. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Yeah. 

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It's gonna is gonna be quite 
excited. 

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Yeah, the next 10 years of 
space. 

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Slater going to be absolutely 
wild. 

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Did you see that? 
They did the Falcon heavy static

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fire? 
The other day, two are for the 

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no, I missed that. 
Yeah, they have a Department of 

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Defense Mission coming up, but 
that was a that's kind of an 

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indicator because it has, you 
know, Falcon few Falcon 9's 

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attached to it. 
Yeah. 

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That's 27 minutes right there 
and they have to stand in fire 

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all those so 33, even though 
they are the most powerful 

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engines in the world, you know, 
the more than likely have to 

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static fire, everything with 
everything attached. 

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To it. 
So, yeah, I'm assuming that's 

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what's going to happen. 
I mean, we think of these things

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as two different pieces, the the
booster and the ship. 

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But if you look at a falcon 9, 
they're attached already, right?

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Update? 
They come pre-attached. 

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The top being priest, priest 
attic fired somewhere else and 

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then they attach it like it's 
really one rocket. 

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We have start thinking of it as 
a Starship, as opposed to a 

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booster in the ship. 
You know, that's how they're 

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going to come. 
Yep, it's they may be in 

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different pieces but it's all 
one. 

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Yeah, in the manufacturing 
process is a little bit 

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different, you know, the they 
mate the fairing of a falcon 9 

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differently than they do with 
the Starship. 

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The Starship has the chum sticks
and the Falcon 9 they, you know,

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it's a different process. 
So, but at the end, like you 

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said full rocket. 
When you're done, when you're 

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ready to launch the thing, it's 
not to Pieces. 

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It's one big thing. 
Until of course you get to the 

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place where you do separate them
on the way up. 

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Yeah, which happens with every 
other rocket out there as 

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exactly. 
So, Nova single stage to orbit 

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does not work very well. 
Yeah. 

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So everybody has two stages at 
least. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
So the I mean, the will they 

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leave? 
Will they leave this ship on top

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probably? 
That's what we're guessing 

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right? 
I think that's weird. 

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I would think that certainly for
certainly for one of the static 

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fires of the booster, they leave
the ship on top. 

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Yeah it's my guess maybe for the
first 33 engine set a fire 

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they'll take it off because they
haven't done that. 

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With the booster yet and then 
maybe it goes back on and leave 

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another. 
I'm not sure. 

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Yeah. 
And the 33 engine static fire of

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the booster could possibly be 
you know one of the one of the 

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pieces of this whole thing that 
sets them back a little bit. 

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Who knows who knows what's going
to happen with a full 33 engine?

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Static fire and they're going to
have to go through all the data 

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make sure everything works right
if everything works absolutely 

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perfect they'll make the ship 
back on top. 

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And then do possibly, you know 
they may do another wet dress 

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rehearsal in another cryo after 
that just to make sure 

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everything works but and then 
just get it ready for flight you

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know. 
Get do another static sighs. 

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Yeah. 
Absolutely. 

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I think it's important to note 
that you and I and all other 

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space enthusiasts are in a 
hurry. 

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A star Starship SpaceX is not in
a hurry. 

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No, they uh they don't certainly
the certainly they want to get 

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this up in the air as soon as 
they can, but if something makes

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them stop and pause and start 
over Over then they're going to 

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do that. 
If there's too much at stake to 

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be rushing this. 
Yeah. 

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And even though we love to see 
these giant tests happening, you

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know, this this whole test 
schedule is amazing and it's 

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just cool. 
I can steer a rocket like I 

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could just stare at a rock and 
watch it frost over four hours. 

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I have a second Monitor and I 
have one of my windows open over

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there and I have it cued into 
two different YouTube channels 

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that have live footage of the 
Starship test facility and I 

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watch All the innocent, it 
literally just a rocket that's 

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getting Frosty or like you know,
a semi truck rolls down the 

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highway with some propellant in 
it and I get excited. 

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So yeah for sure like I was when
they were doing some work with 

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cranes, back in the day maybe 
building the tower, the launch 

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Tower. 
I stopped and thought to myself,

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this is just a crane lifting, a 
piece of metal. 

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Yeah. 
What am I? 

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Am I watching this? 
Yeah, but see, it's exciting. 

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I think it's, it's exciting. 
That the end result of that. 

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We know what? 
What it's for and what it could 

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potentially end up doing and 
being and I think that's what 

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excites us. 
Yeah, it's the whole process. 

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You know, once we have this 
whole thing is complete and once

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they actually figure out the 
whole process of launching these

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things catching them, 
relaunching them. 

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There's going to be sending 
people to filling in space. 

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They're going to be sending 
people to the Moon, you know, 

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with this rocket and also 
eventually sending people and 

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things to Mars with it. 
It's Exciting just to watch any 

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part of it. 
And that was, you know, I, you 

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know, when I went down to Texas 
to cover this for 10 months, it 

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was basically because I was 
super excited about it. 

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It wasn't like, it wasn't a 
business move or anything like 

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that. 
It was more sir. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
I still covering it. 

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But, you know, I moved down 
there because I was so excited 

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about everything. 
And I like every day, I'd wake 

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up and cover this thing and it 
some days were just like 

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torrential downpour you know, 
but I'm like what do they do? 

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In a Starbase and I would go 
down and check it out, but every

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day it's exciting and it's still
exciting, you know, just 

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watching the cameras. 
So I think it's an incredible 

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thing that we're able to watch 
it. 

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Yeah, exactly that. 
It's that's happening in the 

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open. 
It's, you know, they're building

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rockets in the air which is 
outstanding to me. 

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It always seemed when I was a 
kid. 

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It always seemed like something 
that would happen in a 

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climate-controlled room with 
cycled are and everybody. 

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And, you know, the old NASA 
pictures of in the current NASA 

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figures of people. 
You know, dust suits and 

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decontamination suits and that 
sort of thing around these 

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satellites that they send up 
there. 

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That's that's was always growing
up my impression of what the 

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industry was and here we are, 
they're building it out in the 

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open air middle of the welds 
that you can click clearly see 

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and you know, they get better at
those every time they do it too.

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But it's just rather amazing to 
watch the iterations happen. 

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Yeah. 
And it's not even, you know, 

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it's a brutal environment down 
there too. 

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So you see it, you see it on 
YouTube or, you know, wherever 

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you see the footage and you 
don't realize how hot it is. 

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It's like 100 degrees every day 
Fahrenheit. 

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And there's sandblasting 
everywhere because it's next to 

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the beach. 
There's, you know, there's just 

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humidity, that's ridiculous. 
But they're doing this all out 

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in the open for everybody to see
and it's it's a wonderful thing 

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and it gets people excited about
space flight and excited about 

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the future. 
So I'm I'm as excited as anybody

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else. 
Else you know watch all the 

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videos and watch all the updates
and also produce videos and 

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updates and make podcasts about 
it. 

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Like we do it because we love it
you know. 

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So I'm excited about the next 
phase which is moving over to 

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Florida which with this thing 
you know they're testing it in 

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Texas now but they're going to 
move over to Florida. 

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Yeah, I think it's still up in 
the air how they're going to get

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Rockets over there. 
I think I saw some where there 

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was a potential what would you 
call it? 

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Like a basket that would fit in 
the back of a truck to transport

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these boosters and Rockets 
horizontally by road? 

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So that's certainly one way. 
They could also fly them over. 

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If I get good enough, there's no
reason you can't fly a booster 

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or rocket over 2 or just the 
cape and land it down. 

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I know that they're certainly 
getting ready over there that 

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the towers built. 
And I think that I think I saw, 

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yes, Say that the Chopsticks 
were on their way over to the 

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tower. 
So they're going to be installed

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in the next week or two. 
So that's pretty exciting too. 

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Yeah that's that's a huge 
building. 

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A secondary Tower launch Tower 
over there. 

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The same as the one in Texas. 
Yeah. 

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And now that once they had the 
the Texas Tower kind of flushed 

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out and built in, they know what
to do which is pretty cool that 

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they use this as a test bed for 
just the tower, you know, most 

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of these towers. 
That are already built kind of 

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use knowledge that somebody else
had in the past like somebody 

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like NASA built a launch Tower. 
So somebody two years ago. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
So, but now this is a whole new 

454
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,900
thing. 
You know, the the Chopsticks 

455
00:22:59,100 --> 00:23:02,700
brand-new, no one's done it 
before so that no one has ever 

456
00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:06,000
caught a rocket before before 
certainly, especially a rocket 

457
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000
of like 400 feet tall like that.
Yeah, it's insane. 

458
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,900
You know, like the the booster 
itself is what 225 feet tall, 

459
00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:14,600
somewhere around there, 
something like that? 

460
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:15,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

461
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,900
In the ship is, you know, 150 
ish feet tall. 

462
00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:22,000
So it's about 400 feet tall, it 
catching each one of these 

463
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,200
things separately. 
It doesn't make any sense like 

464
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:30,100
the booster not. 
Not, ya know, like boosters and 

465
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:33,000
again, Landing what? 
He's doing your boosters on a on

466
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
a ship at Sea didn't make sense 
either? 

467
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,700
At one point the boosters like 
an apartment building. 

468
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000
It's 20 stories tall you know? 
It's huge. 

469
00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:41,300
Yep. 
Yeah. 

470
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:44,400
It's pretty crazy. 
Yeah, and the can't wait to see 

471
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,600
you that I can't. 
Yeah, I hope it's. 

472
00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,400
I hope it works. 
I mean, they're going to plug in

473
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,300
have to test it in Florida. 
Are in the Texas. 

474
00:23:50,300 --> 00:23:52,500
I don't think they'll let them 
test that in Florida. 

475
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:56,200
Not at all know that Florida. 
One is a working Tower, I think.

476
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,900
Yeah, I don't think that that's 
a test Tower. 

477
00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:00,700
I haven't had a really good look
because because of the distances

478
00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:02,800
away from it. 
It's not quite the same as 

479
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,300
what's in Texas, but I don't 
know whether they've improved or

480
00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:08,700
changed anything on that Tower. 
That they're building in 

481
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:09,600
Florida. 
I'm not sure. 

482
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:12,200
Yeah, most of the shots are from
frill far away. 

483
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,400
It's hard to see ya. 
My guests, my guess is that 

484
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,800
there's improvements. 
There's that, it's an iteration 

485
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:22,000
the same as the, any ship is. 
So, you know, booster 9 that's 

486
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,000
been tested a couple times. 
Has a lot of improvements over 

487
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,400
booster 7 already without it 
being even launched yet. 

488
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,400
So, my guess is that the tower 
would be the same thing. 

489
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:34,700
Yeah, they probably learned a 
lot of manufacturing and 

490
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:39,700
implementation of just Just the 
the wiring in the way that 

491
00:24:39,700 --> 00:24:42,500
things work, the piping and 
things because I when, you know,

492
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:46,700
as we were watching, this thing 
be developed in Texas, there's 

493
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:52,500
iterations of even little things
like a switch box, you know. 

494
00:24:52,500 --> 00:24:56,400
We're we're a bunch of cables 
enter the Box in one spot one 

495
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,700
week. 
And then I would notice that 

496
00:24:58,700 --> 00:25:00,100
they are like they're not there 
anymore. 

497
00:25:00,100 --> 00:25:03,100
What happened to this whole box?
They would move the Box off to 

498
00:25:03,100 --> 00:25:06,800
the other side of the of the 
orbital flight pad. 

499
00:25:07,300 --> 00:25:10,300
And right, it's like, why did 
you do that? 

500
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,400
How did you do that? 
Like, what was wrong with the 

501
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,300
first one? 
Did you need more slack? 

502
00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:16,000
Like what's going on? 
What's going on with that? 

503
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:21,600
So there are perfecting things 
in Texas, they'll move that to 

504
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:26,800
Florida for another four. 
Other orbital flights and other 

505
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,000
missions, including the hls 
mission to the Moon eventually, 

506
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:34,100
but they will have to do some 
tests for the hls before they 

507
00:25:34,100 --> 00:25:36,400
actually sent people there. 
To make sure that the Starship 

508
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,600
can Fuel in orbit and also, you 
know, land on the moon because 

509
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,500
if it can't land on the moon 
then what's the like, they can't

510
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,800
have the hls contract, right? 
So we're sure, yeah. 

511
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,400
Those how many refuels is it? 
Seven refuels. 

512
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,900
I have to do this baby. 
Yeah, it's somewhere along that 

513
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,000
line. 
Something like that. 

514
00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,100
Yeah, so I mean, that test alone
is going to be pretty crazy. 

515
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,600
Yeah. 
Just just getting that the sheer

516
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,300
number of ships up in the space 
orbiting around. 

517
00:26:06,900 --> 00:26:09,500
In situations where they're able
to be. 

518
00:26:09,500 --> 00:26:13,100
Sort of you know like a like a 
concrete truck, delivering 

519
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:16,400
concrete to a job site, they'll 
sort of line up, right? 

520
00:26:16,500 --> 00:26:18,700
So your next guy you go in your 
empty. 

521
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:21,300
Now you leave there someone 
comes in same thing as space 

522
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,200
you're going to have these seven
boosters aligned are not 

523
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,200
boosters 7. 
Refueling ships lined up and you

524
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,700
know okay next move it into 
place, hook it up and start 

525
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:34,300
loading fuel. 
Yeah. 

526
00:26:34,300 --> 00:26:37,400
And they're they're different 
ships to than something that 

527
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,000
will send somebody to the moon. 
It's a whole different iteration

528
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,700
of initially so they're gonna 
have to have different types of 

529
00:26:43,700 --> 00:26:45,500
ships. 
So they'll have the hls ship, 

530
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,600
which is their main focus right 
now is just make sure that 

531
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,700
people can get to the moon. 
So the, the current build which 

532
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,900
I'm guessing is just like, you 
know, they were building in any 

533
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,500
way, then they got the hls 
contract. 

534
00:26:59,500 --> 00:27:00,600
They have to test all this 
stuff. 

535
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,900
Anyway, you don't really need 
heat shields on the hls ship, 

536
00:27:04,900 --> 00:27:08,200
but this is an iteration that 
will be used in the future for 

537
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:13,000
people going and coming back and
also sending cargo to orbit and 

538
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,100
coming back. 
Yeah. 

539
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:17,900
Yeah they hls Landing ship will 
just be a tube. 

540
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:20,900
Yep there won't be any heat 
shields won't be any fins on it.

541
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:22,200
No. 
Need to four fins when you can 

542
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:27,000
just there's no atmosphere to 
interact with the moon so it 

543
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,100
won't have that. 
Yeah. 

544
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:31,800
And that's going to be a wild in
a wild touchdown. 

545
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,400
On the thing like we were saying
before it's a huge ship. 

546
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:39,600
It's 125 feet tall, 150 feet, 
tall, somewhere around there and

547
00:27:39,700 --> 00:27:42,900
less gravity. 
Lot less gravity but also it's 

548
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:47,100
huge that the healthiest. 
I could just keep some coming 

549
00:27:47,100 --> 00:27:48,900
back to it. 
It's just a gigantic. 

550
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:52,800
I mean the the Apollo Lander was
all his like 40 feet tall, I 

551
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,800
think altogether, 30 or 40 feet 
off somewhere, around that range

552
00:27:55,800 --> 00:28:00,000
there between 30 and 40. 
So that also is pretty huge and 

553
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,600
yeah you know, the the picture 
Of that ladder, don't give do 

554
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,300
it. 
Any justice at all the whole 

555
00:28:05,300 --> 00:28:07,300
system. 
There was just immensely 

556
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:11,900
complex, especially for the time
50 years ago, so they having 

557
00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:16,000
something that's triple that 
size land triple plus that size 

558
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,800
land. 
Oh boy, I can't wait, it's gonna

559
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:20,400
tip over. 
It's not gonna make it. 

560
00:28:21,300 --> 00:28:22,900
That's good. 
It's gonna taste not gonna be 

561
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,700
and I think it'll help. 
I think they'll be fine. 

562
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,900
Their propulsion team is 
absolutely amazing. 

563
00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:30,500
So I believe they'll be. 
I think that the, the landing on

564
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,300
the moon is actually fairly 
Simple. 

565
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:36,900
I if they can land, you know, 
ship 15 then they can land on 

566
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:39,600
the moon easily because just 
because of the gravity is so 

567
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:41,500
much less. 
Yeah, there's a lot less 

568
00:28:41,500 --> 00:28:43,000
problems. 
Like probably have they can 

569
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,000
probably you know, boost 
themselves back into space if 

570
00:28:46,008 --> 00:28:48,600
they absolutely had to and try 
again kind of like a plane 

571
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,800
according a landing but it's The
Landing Pad that I've always had

572
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,700
an issue with that here on the 
moon as well as on Mars in the 

573
00:28:55,708 --> 00:28:57,400
future. 
You need something to land on, 

574
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,600
you know, that's not going to 
gum up the engines. 

575
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:04,800
It's not going to be uneven. 
It was, was it Apollo 13, the 

576
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,300
the eagle who they barely Miss 
some cracks, I think when they 

577
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:12,700
were Landing in the Moon, that 
would have just torn him apart. 

578
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:15,200
So really, really dangerous up 
there. 

579
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,900
That's not very, not very flat, 
it's not very Square. 

580
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:19,800
Yeah, it's not built for 
Rockets. 

581
00:29:20,500 --> 00:29:23,100
There's lots of sorry. 
I think that though they may 

582
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:26,000
need to send some robots to 
build a landing pad or 

583
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,400
something, or a spot. 
I don't know. 

584
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,100
Be really interesting to see how
that all works out, but I think 

585
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:35,800
that that's that's a number of 
years away now got a lot of 

586
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,600
things to worry about before 
that for the Stick of the 

587
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,900
launch. 
This thing they got a launch it.

588
00:29:38,900 --> 00:29:41,900
Yeah, so after they do the 33 
engine, static fires and after 

589
00:29:41,900 --> 00:29:46,100
it's been wet dress rehearsed 
all of those systems have been 

590
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:50,900
checked out, everything is good 
looking to launch this thing and

591
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:56,200
that is another huge thing. 
There's so many moving parts to 

592
00:29:56,200 --> 00:30:01,000
that so many things. 
Oh, my Oh so it's a I'll do a 

593
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,500
quick run-through of what 
they're going to be doing with 

594
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,300
this Starship when they launched
like what the test is for. 

595
00:30:06,500 --> 00:30:09,900
You know the there this is a 
test flight. 

596
00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:13,100
Like we said this before this a 
test flight anything can happen 

597
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:19,200
but the the ship and the booster
will launch from Starbase Texas,

598
00:30:19,300 --> 00:30:23,000
the ship eventually we'll make 
it too Kawaii this about 62 

599
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,800
miles Northwest of kawaii and 
it's in a place where they're 

600
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,600
done yet but what has he done? 
So that's that's that's the end.

601
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,600
All right. 
But in between them there's a 

602
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,300
ton of things that they need to 
do. 

603
00:30:34,300 --> 00:30:36,800
It's going to be about a 
90-minute trip for the ship and 

604
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:40,400
they're going to be possibly 
transporting some sort of cargo 

605
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,000
in this one. 
But we're not sure what it is 

606
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,700
because they may have to do some
sort of test of cargo but we 

607
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,900
don't know if anything is in the
actual that anything's actually 

608
00:30:48,900 --> 00:30:51,300
other ship. 
Yeah, I think that sort of waves

609
00:30:51,300 --> 00:30:53,400
with any test, there's they 
always put something in there 

610
00:30:53,500 --> 00:30:57,700
just to simulate having some 
cargo but it won't be. 

611
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,100
It's the least important. 
And part of the entire Mission. 

612
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,700
Yeah, exactly. 
So it's going to be, you know, 

613
00:31:02,708 --> 00:31:06,300
the booster will fly the ship up
and about 170 seconds into. 

614
00:31:06,300 --> 00:31:09,800
It will separate the boosters 
going to come down to the Gulf 

615
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,700
of Mexico and the ship's going 
to keep going. 

616
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,200
So going to go all the way too 
Kawaii and that's like the most 

617
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,100
basic that you'll ever hear 
anybody ever explain this. 

618
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,200
But let's go. 
You want to go into some detail 

619
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,200
about this because this is sure.
Yeah, and I mean there's, 

620
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:26,800
there's so much so much to talk 
about every part of this. 

621
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:28,700
Yeah, I mean, the the most 
dangerous. 

622
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,600
And probably the most complex 
part is the launch. 

623
00:31:31,700 --> 00:31:34,500
Yep. 
You've got a booster with 33 

624
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:36,400
engines firing. 
It's got a clear attack. 

625
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,200
Our that's never had a launch 
from it before the tower itself 

626
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,300
has to operate the way. 
It's supposed to all the quick 

627
00:31:42,300 --> 00:31:45,600
release mechanisms for fuel and 
and electricity. 

628
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,600
All refs have two separate on 
time and the way they're 

629
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,900
supposed to and clear, the 
launch pad, the arms have to be 

630
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,100
out of the way and not get in 
the way the Chopsticks. 

631
00:31:54,100 --> 00:31:55,800
I mean, there's so much that 
could happen. 

632
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,600
Even just at the launch that, 
it's it. 

633
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,400
It. 
I would say if they get past 

634
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,200
that they have a sort of 
probably an 80% chance of 

635
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,300
succeeding at the rest. 
I would think I would think that

636
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,300
most of the problems are going 
to have or have any eye right 

637
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,500
there at the launch. 
Yeah, that's the most important 

638
00:32:11,500 --> 00:32:14,400
part it have, you could have 
Raptors that don't fire. 

639
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,700
You could have, you know, any 
vibrations that could cause a 

640
00:32:17,700 --> 00:32:21,300
problem with the connection to 
the stew, the ship, they could 

641
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,400
damage the tower - they could 
rapidly. 

642
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:29,600
Unexpectedly dismantle, I can 
read it and just blow up 

643
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,600
everything that they've been 
working on for the last two 

644
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,400
years. 
Mhm. 

645
00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:36,700
So, I mean, it's a really 
dangerous spot, but on the other

646
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,700
hand, they've done this many 
times, right? 

647
00:32:39,700 --> 00:32:41,600
They've launched so many 
Falcons. 

648
00:32:41,900 --> 00:32:43,500
My goodness. 
I was going to say, raptors, 

649
00:32:43,900 --> 00:32:47,700
I've watched so many Falcon, 9's
from Florida like several 

650
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,700
months. 
Sometimes, several a week that 

651
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:52,700
took a lot of experience doing 
this. 

652
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,300
And I think that they're going 
to use every ounce of experience

653
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,100
in getting this thing off the 
launch pad as safely as 

654
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:02,100
possible. 
And all the tests that we've 

655
00:33:02,100 --> 00:33:05,200
been talking about are all going
towards making sure that that 

656
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,800
happens happens. 
Wait supposed to be and if 

657
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:12,600
anything happens during the 
initial phase of launch in the 

658
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,200
you know, they have a read on 
the launch pad. 

659
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,500
Like you said, it could set them
back months, possibly a year, 

660
00:33:19,900 --> 00:33:23,400
many might have to rebuild 
everything, they may need to 

661
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:27,000
rebuild the tower whole thing. 
So Ali and and if in effect, if 

662
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,000
it goes further than the tower 
and they get to the storage 

663
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,600
tanks. 
That could be huge. 

664
00:33:31,900 --> 00:33:34,100
Yeah, right. 
So I think that everything 

665
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:36,300
they're doing is to prevent that
right now. 

666
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:38,100
Yeah. 
So I agree they need to I need 

667
00:33:38,100 --> 00:33:39,400
to make sure that that doesn't 
happen. 

668
00:33:39,900 --> 00:33:44,300
So as much as they can, anyway, 
So once they've launched, let's 

669
00:33:44,300 --> 00:33:46,600
say they clear the thing. 
Keep in mind that the ship 

670
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,300
itself has a way to 
self-destruct at any point along

671
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:54,200
here and it will probably would 
assume most likely be automated 

672
00:33:54,300 --> 00:33:57,600
so that if it sees anything 
wrong that might endanger people

673
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:02,000
the mission, anything it will 
distract itself and you'll see 

674
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,100
something that's similar to the 
ship 11. 

675
00:34:04,100 --> 00:34:07,000
That hadn't had an explosion 
above the ground total pieces 

676
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,400
everywhere, so and that's just 
to keep people safe. 

677
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:13,500
That's that's the whole reason 
behind it and if that And its 

678
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,800
success for them if they happen 
to have a problem and the ship 

679
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,900
takes care of itself, that's a 
good thing for SpaceX. 

680
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,000
If that situation doesn't happen
in this thing, you know, beers 

681
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,500
often over direction is not 
supposed to and lands on land 

682
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:29,100
somewhere. 
That's the worst-case scenario 

683
00:34:29,100 --> 00:34:31,199
for everybody. 
Yeah, exactly. 

684
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,000
It's so, the great thing about, 
if I wouldn't shouldn't a great 

685
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,900
thing, but a positive to the, 
you know, something like that 

686
00:34:38,900 --> 00:34:42,100
happening is that they already 
have another ship on. 

687
00:34:42,300 --> 00:34:45,900
Almost ready to go, you know 
better, she got better ship, and

688
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,699
there's going to be better ships
down the line and they're 

689
00:34:48,699 --> 00:34:53,400
continuing to build ships, so 
in, and who's number one goal. 

690
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:55,800
Number one goal is clear that 
launched our, yep, once they get

691
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,300
past that, the rest of it is is 
gravy anything that happens to 

692
00:34:59,300 --> 00:35:02,200
the ship and anything that 
doesn't work the way it's 

693
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,000
supposed to at that point. 
Well that's just another ship. 

694
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,800
That's just another booster 
which you know is what is it 33 

695
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,700
million or a million dollars per
Raptor? 

696
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:16,100
So 33 million for the booster, 
and another nine million for the

697
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:18,300
ship. 
That's nothing. 

698
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,500
It sounds. 
It's a lot. 

699
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:23,800
It's a lot, but it's nothing 
SpaceX. 

700
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,900
There they're prepared for that 
and they expect that. 

701
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,300
Yep. 
But damaging the launch site is 

702
00:35:28,300 --> 00:35:31,800
the absolute worst thing that 
can happen yet, because the time

703
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,200
it would take them to repair is,
is something they is time that 

704
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,400
they can't afford. 
Yeah. 

705
00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:41,100
So yep. 
They're on a but anyway, so if 

706
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:44,800
they're set selects, Suggestions
bad oh for sure. 

707
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,500
Yeah and who knows how long my 
guess is that they're expecting 

708
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:51,200
some damage to the launch pad? 
I don't think you can launch a 

709
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,200
ship and they've seen damage, 
every time they've static fired.

710
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:58,000
So they're expecting to repair. 
What's a rebuild is completely 

711
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,100
different thing? 
Yeah. 

712
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,000
That'll that'll take a while. 
The rebuild will take a little 

713
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,100
while to take a little 
resources, you know, take some, 

714
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,900
I don't think it's, you know, I 
don't think it's a money thing 

715
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,800
either when they rebuild, 
because they have a lot of 

716
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,200
investment have, a lot of 
private investment. 

717
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,200
And a lot like Millions hundreds
of millions of dollars in the 

718
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:20,400
bank, so it's not a big deal for
them to, you know, just shell 

719
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:25,300
out, another whatever, 50 mil, 
60 million, whatever to fix the 

720
00:36:25,300 --> 00:36:27,400
tower. 
But like you said that the time,

721
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,300
okay, if you have to, if you 
have to spend six months, fixing

722
00:36:30,300 --> 00:36:33,600
everything or six months, you 
know, refurbishing something 

723
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,900
that needs to get, you know, 
fixed up. 

724
00:36:36,900 --> 00:36:40,300
It, it just takes, it takes too 
much time to time equals money 

725
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:44,300
and they don't have and they 
Have a very pretty good schedule

726
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,800
set up for their main mission, 
which is hls, but also the 

727
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,200
starlink missions to because 
they need to make money in 

728
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,800
through that. 
So anything that says back, not 

729
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000
good, not good at all for sure. 
But what's the launch and once 

730
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,900
they like if they clear the 
tower, that's going to be 

731
00:37:00,900 --> 00:37:05,100
incredible because then they're 
going to head towards Max q and 

732
00:37:05,100 --> 00:37:09,500
Max Q is the point of the flight
where it has the most stress on 

733
00:37:09,500 --> 00:37:12,900
the rocket. 
And that's like once Yeah, 

734
00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:16,500
there's a balance between the 
thickness of the atmosphere and 

735
00:37:16,500 --> 00:37:17,600
the speed they're going. 
Yeah. 

736
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:20,900
So at some point you know 
they're going really fast, but 

737
00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:22,900
the atmosphere is getting a 
little thinner each second. 

738
00:37:22,900 --> 00:37:26,600
So at some point there's a 
maximum pressure on the ship. 

739
00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:30,100
Yeah. 
And at that point kind of 

740
00:37:30,100 --> 00:37:34,000
anything can happen because it's
it's a maximum pressure, you 

741
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,800
know, it's never gone through 
Max Q tests before. 

742
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,300
So be the first, max Q test of 
this rocket and, you know, are 

743
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:46,400
the are The points between the 
ship and the booster hard 

744
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,200
enough, that it won't separate 
versions of this. 

745
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,300
And as a huge deal, you know, I 
think about the welds because 

746
00:37:53,300 --> 00:37:57,300
you've got, you know, a lot of 
air blowing around the ship at 

747
00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,200
that point and under pressure. 
And every, well, it's sort of a 

748
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,700
catch point for the air. 
You've got the, the heat 

749
00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:06,200
shielding tiles. 
Exact same thing. 

750
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,800
There every every one of those 
tiles is a point where that air 

751
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:13,200
can grab and who knows? 
Haven't launched this thing yet 

752
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:14,900
so we don't know what's going to
happen. 

753
00:38:14,900 --> 00:38:18,800
Maybe it'll just be fine. 
Let's hope it is and it's a big 

754
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,200
rocket, you know, and it's huge.
It's a two-stage huge rocket in 

755
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,300
the stages are different than 
say, the Apollo, the Apollo. 

756
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,000
You know, the, the capsule was 
on the very, very top, right in 

757
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:36,200
the there was a a stage in the 
middle of Starship. 

758
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:39,500
Basically it wasn't there for 
Apollo or any other Rock. 

759
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:41,900
And that's that big you know, 
that powerful. 

760
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,100
So it's a, it's a breaking 
point, but the welds on the 

761
00:38:45,100 --> 00:38:48,300
outside, they're not perfect. 
You know, they're pretty good. 

762
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,600
But like you said, any sort of 
aerodynamic drag on this thing, 

763
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,400
could wreak havoc on the whole 
flight? 

764
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:59,200
So, I mean, it'll it'll more 
than likely have enough power to

765
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,200
kind of push through all of 
that, but we'll see. 

766
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:04,800
Oh, yeah, don't the powers 
there? 

767
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,800
Yeah. 
It's whether the it's whether 

768
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,900
that dragged from the, the 
atmosphere causes an issue, 

769
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,000
right? 
Heats it up, too much with rips 

770
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,000
it. 
Park Heats it up too much or it 

771
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,100
just starts vibrating or you 
know you get sort of resonance 

772
00:39:18,100 --> 00:39:20,500
happening. 
Hmm you know and that can cause 

773
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:22,800
the ship to go off course 
there's all kinds of things that

774
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,100
could happen. 
Yeah. 

775
00:39:24,100 --> 00:39:26,100
So that's why I'm Excuse a big 
deal. 

776
00:39:26,100 --> 00:39:29,500
That's why it's called out every
time once you're past that it 

777
00:39:29,500 --> 00:39:32,700
gets a lot easier on the ship. 
At that point you're you're sort

778
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:35,800
of reaching space, outer space, 
outer space. 

779
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:39,700
And we still call it outer, 
space action, space and and and 

780
00:39:39,700 --> 00:39:41,300
things are a lot easier on the 
ship. 

781
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,500
Yeah. 
Of course, which leads to 

782
00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:45,600
separation. 
Soft Stuff has to happen there 

783
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200
as well, to make sure that we 
can continue our journey. 

784
00:39:48,300 --> 00:39:51,700
You know, the booster has to 
shut down all its engines, they 

785
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,400
Coast for a little bit and then 
the the ship separates from it 

786
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,400
and there's a lot of things can 
go wrong there too. 

787
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,400
You've got engines that could 
that could malfunction or knots 

788
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,500
not turn off right away. 
You've got the actual separation

789
00:40:03,500 --> 00:40:05,200
of the ships could cause a 
problem. 

790
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:08,100
I think it was Was it the 
original Falcon? 

791
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:10,900
One mission the first mission or
a second mission. 

792
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:13,600
Maybe that they got right to 
separation stage. 

793
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,900
They were on their way to orbit.
And they started the engines too

794
00:40:17,900 --> 00:40:21,300
soon after separation and they 
actually hit each other. 

795
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:23,300
Yeah, I don't, I don't remember 
that one. 

796
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,200
And that's, that's what caused 
the failure of the Falcon 1. 

797
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,000
Oh, yes. 
That's the two ships. 

798
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,700
Hit each other because they 
didn't allow enough time between

799
00:40:31,700 --> 00:40:34,100
the engines turning off and the 
new engines turning on. 

800
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:35,900
Oh wow, the second stage turning
on. 

801
00:40:35,900 --> 00:40:38,100
So it's interesting. 
And yeah, so that's something 

802
00:40:38,100 --> 00:40:41,400
that they learned, they learn 
her lesson on so that's good. 

803
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:46,900
Yeah, and that was, you know, 
decade ago plus so, yeah, you 

804
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:50,000
know, they have all that time to
fix that, you know, in the 

805
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Falcon 9, of course, obviously, 
that's been fixed. 

806
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,600
Obviously, they fixed it. 
Yeah, they kind of know what's 

807
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,100
going on with separations, but 
you never know, like you said, 

808
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,300
engine could go bad and it's 
gonna happen is gonna happen. 

809
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:03,500
A clamp, could just not could 
not unclamp, you know? 

810
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,200
The only time they've separated,
this is sitting on the launch 

811
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,700
pad. 
They never separated it in space

812
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,000
moving. 
Whatever. 

813
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,100
Yeah, so there's a mean, is I 
don't think that that's maybe 

814
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:16,200
the biggest problem they're 
going to have, but it is 

815
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,000
something that they certainly 
have to keep track of. 

816
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:19,900
Yeah. 
And keep their eyes on the other

817
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:21,200
gonna have to stop. 
They're going to have to land 

818
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,200
this thing to, right? 
So after they separate. 

819
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,600
Yeah, that's the next stage. 
So we go. 

820
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,300
Now we got two vehicles and 
space, right? 

821
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,600
So you've got the booster, which
is just turned off at all. 

822
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,500
Its engine is starting to sort 
of reach its apogee and then 

823
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,300
you've got the ship that moves 
on its way. 

824
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:39,300
So we're will separate for now. 
I will come back to the booster 

825
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:43,400
so it's got a complete much like
the Falcon 9 booster does. 

826
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,400
It's got a sort of reach, its 
highest point and start falling 

827
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,000
back down to earth, eventually. 
The booster will sort of 

828
00:41:49,300 --> 00:41:52,300
turnover and do a boost backburn
to get back to the launch site. 

829
00:41:52,300 --> 00:41:54,600
That's the future. 
We will be caught by the tower 

830
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,300
somehow, right? 
But for now, this booster is 

831
00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,800
going to just fall into the 
ocean into the Gulf of Mexico. 

832
00:42:00,500 --> 00:42:02,300
And so, what are we expecting to
see there? 

833
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:06,500
Everything to go perfectly. 
Well, oh perfect. 

834
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:08,600
Yeah, everything's gonna be 
completely fine. 

835
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,600
Like we don't know what they're 
going to try and do that 

836
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,000
boosters. 
I'm just going to fall into the 

837
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,500
ocean and that's the end of it. 
Or are they actually going to 

838
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:17,500
try and simulate a landing? 
I think they're going to try to 

839
00:42:17,500 --> 00:42:20,300
simulate a landing because I 
would think so I don't know why 

840
00:42:20,300 --> 00:42:23,100
you would write, there'd be no 
reason to skip that phase 

841
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,800
because yeah, so when I, when a 
falcon 9 booster is landing at 

842
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,300
land launch, it relights one of 
its engines to slow the booster 

843
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:34,900
down and they don't land it. 
Roger the, the ship. 

844
00:42:34,900 --> 00:42:38,800
So my guess is that they're 
going to, you know, light 

845
00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:43,100
anywhere from three to five 
engines and try to land this 

846
00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:45,300
thing on the ocean. 
Theoretically, or at least 

847
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:48,400
probably get it to a point where
it's hovering, you know, 50 

848
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,900
feet, the air, where the 
Chopsticks might be grabbed it 

849
00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:52,400
and future. 
Yeah. 

850
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,400
And what a, what? 
And then just sort of slowly 

851
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,300
fall into the water after. 
Yeah. 

852
00:42:57,300 --> 00:43:00,500
If they can hover this thing 
over the water, over the gulf. 

853
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:02,700
I'm going to, I'm going to lose 
it. 

854
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,900
I'm going to first her lip out. 
We're going to have a watch 

855
00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:08,800
party in Discord or something so
everybody can watch this going 

856
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,400
to be amazing. 
Yeah it's going to be amazing 

857
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,700
but yeah so maybe maybe we could
plug I miss. 

858
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:14,900
My favorite part is my favorite 
part of any Falcon long. 

859
00:43:14,900 --> 00:43:19,500
Yeah it's it's so easy. 
It's yeah it's mind-blowing. 

860
00:43:19,500 --> 00:43:21,600
It's the future and happening 
now. 

861
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,000
Yeah. 
And it's going to be like it'll 

862
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,800
be the first time that they 
hovered a booster, right? 

863
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,700
So this will be a first of the 
hover and also of first of like 

864
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:38,100
a flea e functional booster 
Landing like actually Landing 

865
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,800
because boosters don't have 
legs. 

866
00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:41,200
So there's no way for them to 
land at. 

867
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:45,100
There's no landing gear on them.
So this is the only way they can

868
00:43:45,100 --> 00:43:48,900
land other than the tower. 
So other than the Chopsticks 

869
00:43:48,900 --> 00:43:50,700
catching them and putting them 
back in the tower. 

870
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,900
So yeah, I'm going to, I'm going
to flip out. 

871
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,400
I'm going to flip out. 
Yeah, yeah and I to me this is 

872
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,700
the most realistic part of this 
entire thing work again. 

873
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,800
This is they've done this. 
I've done this hundreds of 

874
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,700
times. 
Now The food with the Falcon 9. 

875
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:08,100
So I just see that this, this 
part of it working. 

876
00:44:08,100 --> 00:44:11,900
I don't see any reason why it 
wouldn't apart from those 

877
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:15,300
engines not restarting. 
If you only, that's the only 

878
00:44:15,300 --> 00:44:18,700
question mark in my mind is that
they have to to start the 

879
00:44:18,700 --> 00:44:20,700
engines to get into the 
atmosphere to slow down a little

880
00:44:20,700 --> 00:44:22,500
bit. 
And then they have to do it to 

881
00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:25,000
stop. 
The stop, the booster from in 

882
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:28,100
the water really fast, so that's
the only part of it. 

883
00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,700
That's, that's a question mark 
in my mind is those engines 

884
00:44:30,900 --> 00:44:33,200
making sure that those those 
Raptors start up again but 

885
00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,900
Anything beyond that. 
I think they got this, no 

886
00:44:35,900 --> 00:44:37,600
problem. 
Yeah, I think so too. 

887
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:41,200
I think they're going to get to 
put on a good show irregardless 

888
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,800
of what happens after Max q and 
separation. 

889
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,100
I think that the booster Landing
is going to be wild but then 

890
00:44:48,100 --> 00:44:51,700
they have to go higher. 
The second engines start up for 

891
00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:53,900
the for the ship while all of 
this is happening, there's two 

892
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:57,100
things happening at once. 
So the boosters coming down like

893
00:44:57,100 --> 00:45:00,000
falling back to Earth, then the 
ship keeps going up. 

894
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,900
The ship. 24 keeps going up, 
they start their engines again 

895
00:45:02,900 --> 00:45:05,500
and then Different into the 
vacuum engines this time. 

896
00:45:05,500 --> 00:45:07,300
Yeah the Raptor value this time.
It's first time. 

897
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:10,800
Yeah this is three vacuum 
engines and three regular 

898
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,400
engines. 
Yep, so the launch the light, 

899
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:16,600
the three vacuum Raptors, which 
have a just a much larger bail 

900
00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,200
on them to help with air 
pressure pressure and yeah. 

901
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,400
So that that those engines are 
going to have to get this thing 

902
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,900
up to and I think that they're 
going to try and reach orbital 

903
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:27,400
velocities. 
I think that they're going to 

904
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,300
try and get to the point where 
if they just turn the engines 

905
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,300
off, it would orbit. 
They're not going to they're not

906
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:34,800
going to go one full. 
All orbit around the Earth but I

907
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,000
think that they're going to try 
and get to the get to that 

908
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,300
point. 
They've got an hour and a half 

909
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,600
up there. 
Why not? 

910
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:44,400
Yeah, they may as well stick all
the systems, you know, even 

911
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,800
though they have to be cautious 
as possible, especially if they 

912
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:54,300
decide to launch some launch, 
some starlink satellites while 

913
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,100
they're at it. 
They'll need to get up to orbit 

914
00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:57,400
velocities. 
Yeah. 

915
00:45:57,500 --> 00:45:59,200
Yeah. 
And the next couple flights are 

916
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,600
going to have to do that. 
I think they're going to they're

917
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:05,600
going to do more testing more 
flights with this thing and then

918
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:08,700
eventually something will go 
into orbit whether it's a sure 

919
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,300
I'll probably start. 
Click, he said more than likely 

920
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,900
but yeah, they get it up to 
orbit and they'll, you know, 

921
00:46:14,900 --> 00:46:19,800
eventually have a really great 
opportunity here to come back 

922
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,000
down. 
What's their environment? 

923
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,500
You know, they're gonna have to 
do your bit, we're gonna have to

924
00:46:23,500 --> 00:46:26,200
come back down to earth. 
And yep, let's say, you know 

925
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,900
what series star orbital 
velocity, this is going to be a 

926
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,800
wild ride, right? 
And again, yeah, I think that 

927
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,700
they'd understand this part. 
They know how to get things into

928
00:46:34,700 --> 00:46:37,300
orbit, if they've done it 
hundreds of times. 

929
00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:40,600
And the only question mark here 
again, is those engines but 

930
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,000
haven't always. 
Nobody is turned on a vacuum 

931
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,400
Raptor and space yet. 
So that's the big question. 

932
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:47,700
Yeah. 
Well it reunite it will if 

933
00:46:47,700 --> 00:46:49,700
you'll be in the right place 
where it to reignite, will 

934
00:46:49,700 --> 00:46:52,800
everything not slosh around, you
know, will the absolutely humps 

935
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,900
work properly, will everything 
all the the pipes inside of this

936
00:46:56,900 --> 00:46:58,700
thing? 
Because it's a very complex, not

937
00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:01,500
just the engine, but all the 
inner workings of this rocket. 

938
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:02,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

939
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,500
Keep in mind every soon as 
separation happens with the 

940
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:08,800
booster there zero G's, huh? 
There's, there's no gravity up 

941
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,600
there until they Launch. 
Those are like the vacuum rap. 

942
00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:13,900
Yep. 
So they're going to have to make

943
00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:15,900
sure that the there's fuel where
it needs to be. 

944
00:47:16,300 --> 00:47:17,500
Yep, absolutely. 
Yeah. 

945
00:47:17,500 --> 00:47:20,100
And then they'll come back down,
the re-enter, come back down 

946
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:21,700
towards Earth. 
Yeah. 

947
00:47:21,700 --> 00:47:24,600
But have to slow the ship down, 
I'll probably turn it around and

948
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,900
turn the engines on and then 
just to slow down the craft. 

949
00:47:27,900 --> 00:47:30,400
So it starts to fall loses. 
Its orbit, I mean, they're 

950
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,700
always falling up in space. 
That's what orbits are. 

951
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:35,100
But two, there's have be falling
at the same speed that they're 

952
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,200
moving, so they don't actually 
hit the ground like falling 

953
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,700
around the Earth. 
So to deorbit slow down vehicle 

954
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:45,600
and it starts to lose its speed 
relative to the Earth and starts

955
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,000
to re-entry. 
And that's another. 

956
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,800
That's another stickler point 
for this Starship is what's 

957
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,500
going to happen to re-entry? 
They've never done anything this

958
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:57,000
high before they never 
re-entered or had a ship at this

959
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:02,300
height they've had, you know, 
belly flops at Texas but never 

960
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:05,400
in space. 
So this thing is going to be 

961
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,800
whippin back. 
We're not exactly sure what 

962
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,700
speeds, it'll have, but Will 
more than likely. 

963
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
You know, the belly-flop 
maneuver will be used again to 

964
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:15,500
get this thing back down for 
sure. 

965
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,300
For, you know, for a safe 
landing off the coast of Kauai. 

966
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,800
So it's going to be a soft ocean
Landing. 

967
00:48:21,900 --> 00:48:27,100
Apparently, according to SpaceX 
soft, we forgotten apart here. 

968
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:29,800
We got to go back to re-entry. 
Yeah this thing's got to come 

969
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,600
through the atmosphere that's 
scary and it's very scary. 

970
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,300
It heats up quite a bit. 
Yes. 

971
00:48:34,300 --> 00:48:36,700
Certainly past the melting point
of the stainless steel, this 

972
00:48:36,700 --> 00:48:39,300
things made out of. 
So they've got heat shield. 

973
00:48:39,500 --> 00:48:42,300
Miles on one half of the ship a 
little bit more than more than 

974
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:46,100
1/2 and those tiles are going to
have to absorb all that heat 

975
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,700
from re-entry and all the forces
that happen during reentry. 

976
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:53,200
I'm not sure how they're going 
to how they're going to do the 

977
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,000
re-entry. 
Maybe they try and slow the ship

978
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,800
down. 
Even more using the engines 

979
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,600
before they they flip over and 
sort of plane down but I'll have

980
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:05,700
to see what they do. 
Yeah I do but that's a s 

981
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:09,300
extremely dangerous part because
they've had these tiles fall. 

982
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:13,000
All off, almost almost every. 
I think maybe all static fires, 

983
00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:15,200
they've had they've had tiles 
fall off. 

984
00:49:15,900 --> 00:49:20,500
So it's still an ongoing work in
progress and if they launch, 

985
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:22,700
what if they lose a few tiles 
during the launch to? 

986
00:49:22,700 --> 00:49:26,200
That's why the static fire of 33
engines with the ship on top of 

987
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:30,900
it is an important part of this 
flight test because if they do 

988
00:49:30,900 --> 00:49:34,200
lose a few of those tiles, 
during the launch that allows 

989
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:38,700
the the heat to just go right 
past it right through the steel 

990
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:41,100
and The sucker down. 
So depends. 

991
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,500
I mean depending of course on 
how many tiles they lose if they

992
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:46,300
lose one tile, I think they'll 
be all right. 

993
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:49,200
They might damage it. 
You have a blanket behind it, a 

994
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,800
blanket can help yet little 
blank but those tiles are the 

995
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,900
most important part. 
Yeah. 

996
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,000
So we'll see what happens. 
I mean it's a different thing. 

997
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,900
Static firing the ship repres 
has versus the booster. 

998
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:02,500
Yep. 
You know the ship isn't quite as

999
00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:06,200
close to the engines as the as 
when it's doing its own static 

1000
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:09,000
fire. 
So perhaps they'll be by fine on

1001
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,100
us. 
On a launch but we'll have to 

1002
00:50:12,100 --> 00:50:15,500
see but I, but we'll know that 
will know that as soon as they 

1003
00:50:15,500 --> 00:50:17,800
as soon as they've launched a 
will know what's happening with 

1004
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,300
the tile. 
So have so many, so many cameras

1005
00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,000
on that just to check all that 
stuff. 

1006
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:25,300
And they'll have probably have 
external cameras on the ship and

1007
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:26,700
that sort of thing just to check
so much. 

1008
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,400
The can what's happening with 
those tiles? 

1009
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,900
Yeah and they there again, we 
set it. 

1010
00:50:31,900 --> 00:50:35,100
This is a test vehicle. 
Yeah, it definitely is a test 

1011
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,300
vehicle in these tiles. 
There are produced by some of 

1012
00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:40,500
the people that have you know, 
Worked on the space shuttle 

1013
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:45,100
tiles and worked on the same 
sort of Dynamics for these sort 

1014
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:50,300
of re-entries for decades. 
So very, I mean the production 

1015
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,300
of these tiles. 
Absolutely incredible. 

1016
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,400
But keeping them on the vehicle 
is I think it's impossible. 

1017
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,200
I don't know if they'll ever 
figured out it seems like it's 

1018
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,100
impossible. 
They, I think they will figure 

1019
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:03,500
it out but it's, it's gonna 
figure it out. 

1020
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:05,800
Yeah, I want to, I want to re 
fly these things and within a 

1021
00:51:05,808 --> 00:51:07,500
couple hours, right? 
Yeah. 

1022
00:51:07,500 --> 00:51:11,000
And not lose any eventually. 
Yeah, and not losing its not. 

1023
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,300
Was this the first zero, man, 
this is the first test, so I'm 

1024
00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:17,700
expecting a few tiles to not be 
there when they land this thing.

1025
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,100
Yeah. 
When they do re-entry. 

1026
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:22,900
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1027
00:51:22,900 --> 00:51:24,700
When they do it, and who the 
other whether it makes it 

1028
00:51:24,700 --> 00:51:27,400
through a re-entry or not is a 
secondary question. 

1029
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,900
And the pieces will land the 
pieces? 

1030
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,500
Yeah. 
If it does make it through, if 

1031
00:51:32,500 --> 00:51:35,000
it doesn't make everyone's 
eventually everything will come 

1032
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,200
down yet back down to earth if 
they can make it through 

1033
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,100
reentry. 
Oh, Do you think? 

1034
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,500
So I'm thinking they'll do is 
like you said. 

1035
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,500
I think they're going to use 
some sort of boost back burn 

1036
00:51:48,100 --> 00:51:50,500
like they do with the boosters 
of a falcon 9. 

1037
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:52,000
I think they're going to do 
something like that but they 

1038
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:58,000
slow it down and then they use 
the heat tiles to, you know to 

1039
00:51:58,100 --> 00:51:59,900
protect the the ship on the way 
down. 

1040
00:52:00,100 --> 00:52:02,300
They'll have to do that. 
I mean the belly booster is 

1041
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:04,600
going a lot slower than an 
orbital Rock. 

1042
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:10,400
Oh yeah so I don't know that it 
boosts back to Safely D orbitals

1043
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,800
is ever going to be possible. 
They have too much fuel. 

1044
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:16,300
Let certainly slowing it down as
much as possible before it flips

1045
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:18,000
over. 
Yeah, the array entry is, you 

1046
00:52:18,008 --> 00:52:20,900
know, the use every every ounce 
of fuel. 

1047
00:52:20,900 --> 00:52:23,000
They possibly can but they don't
need for landing. 

1048
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,300
Yeah. 
They use think every trick in 

1049
00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,000
the book to get this thing back.
Yeah. 

1050
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,700
And it's going to be it's going 
to be a cool thing. 

1051
00:52:28,700 --> 00:52:34,200
And like you said that, if they 
do a hover of the booster over 

1052
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,500
the Gulf of Mexico, I think 
they're going to do that with 

1053
00:52:37,500 --> 00:52:40,400
the ship to when they land if 
they make it through the I would

1054
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,000
hope so. 
I mean, if you're gone that far,

1055
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:44,300
why wouldn't ya, right? 
Yeah. 

1056
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:48,600
Come down, do the do the, the 
flip over and, and try and sort 

1057
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:52,300
of hovered that land, this 
thing, again, might be 200 feet 

1058
00:52:52,300 --> 00:52:54,400
in the air that they do it. 
If they're sort of thinking 

1059
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:59,300
about, you know, where it might 
be in relation to the catching 

1060
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:03,600
chopsticks on the launch Mount. 
Yeah, and then, perhaps it, you 

1061
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:05,400
know, the engines go cold that 
point at false. 

1062
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:09,100
Our but yeah, it's going to be 
something to watch again. 

1063
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:13,500
Yeah. 
The The Landing is going to be 

1064
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,700
cool. 
It's going to be really crazy. 

1065
00:53:16,700 --> 00:53:19,200
They're going to be landing in 
like a Naval Shipyard. 

1066
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:23,100
It's like an old well in the 
naval graveyard, so to speak off

1067
00:53:23,100 --> 00:53:26,200
the coast of Hawaii. 
And it's been used for decades 

1068
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,800
by other Navy and the Department
of Defense to sink like 

1069
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:34,200
submarines and warships and we 
don't I don't think they're 

1070
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,700
going to retrieve this ship. 
I think they're just gonna let 

1071
00:53:36,700 --> 00:53:38,900
it sink because that might take 
too much. 

1072
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,800
We're gonna get as much data as 
they can from it. 

1073
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,500
Well, I mean, if it, think about
what it is, right, it's going to

1074
00:53:43,508 --> 00:53:45,800
be a big Hollow empty shell. 
Yeah. 

1075
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,600
So it's going to float, right? 
It's going to be a, it's going 

1076
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,200
to be a boat for a little bit. 
Yeah. 

1077
00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,700
And maybe, who knows, maybe the 
Navy will, what they do is they 

1078
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:56,700
launched, they launched 
artillery at these boats and 

1079
00:53:56,700 --> 00:53:58,800
they sink them. 
So, how cool would it be if they

1080
00:53:58,800 --> 00:53:59,500
did? 
That's possible. 

1081
00:53:59,500 --> 00:54:02,800
Maybe they, yeah, that would be 
crazy. 

1082
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,500
Maybe they use the automatic 
destruct. 

1083
00:54:04,500 --> 00:54:05,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1084
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:07,000
At that point. 
And just blow it up. 

1085
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:09,700
Yeah, individuals. 
Yeah eventually I think it will 

1086
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
but I mean it's like a wrench 
for me. 

1087
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:15,600
I would love to get my hands on 
those Raptor engines and and 

1088
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,000
review them. 
Take a look at them and and 

1089
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,000
examine what? 
Yeah, what happened? 

1090
00:54:20,300 --> 00:54:21,400
You know what? 
Shape, they're in. 

1091
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:23,400
There's a lot to be said for 
saving this thing. 

1092
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:24,600
Yeah, I agree. 
I agree. 

1093
00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:29,300
And then, of course, put it up 
in a rocket graveyard somewhere.

1094
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:32,200
So, everybody can stare in awe 
of the ship yet. 

1095
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,800
Bring it back down to 
Brownsville almost impossible. 

1096
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,400
Yep. 
Bring it back, down to 

1097
00:54:36,408 --> 00:54:40,000
Brownsville, ship, it back to 
Boca, Chica Beach on the ground,

1098
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,900
the port of Brownsville. 
There's a road turned it into a 

1099
00:54:42,900 --> 00:54:47,100
kids play instrument, right? 
Somehow, I don't think that's 

1100
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,500
good. 
Stainless steel is probably not 

1101
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:51,400
the best thing for kids to play 
on the middle, son in Texas. 

1102
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:56,200
But yeah, the they built a road 
from the highway for, which is 

1103
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:57,700
the road that leads down to 
Starbase. 

1104
00:54:57,700 --> 00:55:03,000
There's a road that goes from 
Highway for over to the Bay so 

1105
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:08,000
they can transport ships. 
And boosters on that road as a 

1106
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,900
huge road is super white. 
It's like a six Lanes wide or 

1107
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:14,800
something, I believe it's a big 
wide road, I don't think it's 

1108
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:18,700
six Lanes, but it's pretty big. 
And I believe you can use that 

1109
00:55:18,700 --> 00:55:22,100
road to get over to the port and
bring the ship back. 

1110
00:55:22,100 --> 00:55:27,100
So they just have to put it on a
boat, you know, bring it back. 

1111
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:30,000
Get whatever they can out of it 
and take a look at those Raptors

1112
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,300
or maybe even just, I mean, I 
don't know how this will be 

1113
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:37,800
almost impossible to do, I 
think, but Move the Raptors in 

1114
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,800
the ocean which would be 
incredibly difficult and then 

1115
00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,600
yes. 
But this let the ship sank but 

1116
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:48,300
get the Raptors back. 
But yeah I mean if we get to 

1117
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:50,600
that point where we're 
discussing what to do with 

1118
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,400
Raptors that have been flown on 
an engine and and landed 

1119
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:57,300
properly who cares at that point
we're we're so far beyond our 

1120
00:55:57,300 --> 00:56:01,800
mission goals here. 
That's where happy is as Pigs in

1121
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,600
a blanket. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1122
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,400
If that's the saying. 
Yeah. 

1123
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,200
It's that's that's the ultimate 
goal right there. 

1124
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,400
If we can get a rocket that 
lands itself in the ocean, my 

1125
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,400
goodness. 
Yeah, I mean, what is going to 

1126
00:56:15,408 --> 00:56:18,300
be cheering for days? 
If if this thing survives, this 

1127
00:56:18,300 --> 00:56:22,800
whole it'll be the most exciting
time in space flight since 

1128
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,100
Apollo. 
I think I think that's and then 

1129
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,200
after this I think it's going 
Goosebumps. 

1130
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,700
Yeah, getting because everything
everybody will get goosebumps 

1131
00:56:30,700 --> 00:56:34,100
the whole We'll get goosebumps 
to be a weird phenomenon that 

1132
00:56:34,100 --> 00:56:35,200
happens once. 
Yeah. 

1133
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,900
But then after this, the Artemis
to missions where people fly 

1134
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:41,900
around the Moon, that's going to
be a huge deal to you and then 

1135
00:56:41,900 --> 00:56:45,200
Artemis 3, when they launched a 
Starship for that mission and 

1136
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,400
they send people back to the 
moon. 

1137
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,000
This is all the beginning, like,
without this flight, there's 

1138
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,400
none of that there's none of the
Artemis 3 mission. 

1139
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:57,000
So this is literally one of the 
most important space flights of 

1140
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,600
all time. 
You might not be wrong there for

1141
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:04,300
sure. 
It's it's huge for the future of

1142
00:57:04,300 --> 00:57:07,300
spaceflight, for all Humanity. 
Yeah its massive. 

1143
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:09,600
It's yeah, the the ship is 
massive. 

1144
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:14,500
Yeah. 
That's that's that's why it's 

1145
00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:16,900
such a big deal to is because 
the ship is massive. 

1146
00:57:16,900 --> 00:57:19,700
The biggest fairing that's ever 
flown to space. 

1147
00:57:19,700 --> 00:57:22,400
We're talking, but we're talking
a hundred percent reuse ability,

1148
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,500
right? 
That's a hue Natsu. 

1149
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:28,100
That's massive, it's it. 
It's something that nobody else 

1150
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:30,200
is even attempting. 
At this point. 

1151
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:36,000
So if if that happens, it's 
reduces the cost of space by 100

1152
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,500
volt. 
And that's massive as well. 

1153
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,700
Yeah, that's a whole new 
economy, you know, and the 

1154
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:48,200
economics of space flight. 
Right now are kind of in a I 

1155
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,000
think they're in a Tipping Point
where SpaceX is taking over 

1156
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:56,100
space flight and the Old Guard 
is kind of finally thinking 

1157
00:57:56,100 --> 00:58:00,900
about reusability because of 100
spaceflights last year, or they 

1158
00:58:00,900 --> 00:58:02,400
want to do 100 flights this 
year. 

1159
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:05,400
And last year, it was 60, some 
odd. 

1160
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,400
I can't remember the exact 
number, but I think We're 60 

1161
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:10,100
sliding over numbers, but this 
year, they're aiming for 100 

1162
00:58:10,100 --> 00:58:13,700
flights. 
So if you can get 100 flights 

1163
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:18,300
from one company, twice a week, 
twice a week, possibly three 

1164
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,500
times a week. 
Depending on what the, what the 

1165
00:58:20,500 --> 00:58:24,100
launch Cadence is and you have 
Rockets Kennedy. 

1166
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,200
Space Center in your flying 
falcon, 9's and Falcon Heavies, 

1167
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,900
and Starships. 
Yeah, this is sort of a it's a 

1168
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:34,900
Tipping Point because the Falcon
9 is almost reusable. 

1169
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:38,300
The fairings aren't reusable. 
And a few other things aren't 

1170
00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:42,700
reusable, but the Starship, 
everything stage. 

1171
00:58:42,700 --> 00:58:43,300
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1172
00:58:43,300 --> 00:58:49,000
Starship is 100% reusable. 
So the cost of flight is going 

1173
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,400
to go down drastically in the 
cargo that you can put in that 

1174
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:54,100
thing. 
You can just drive your bus into

1175
00:58:54,100 --> 00:58:56,700
it. 
A school bus, several several? 

1176
00:58:56,700 --> 00:58:58,300
Yes, it's not a big deal. 
Yeah. 

1177
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,200
Yeah, it's amazing. 
It's going to be amazing to see,

1178
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,700
and in here and an exciting for 
If this thing works, if this 

1179
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,300
launch works and goes according 
to plan, it will speed up. 

1180
00:59:14,500 --> 00:59:18,200
Research and production inflow 
in Texas and Florida tenfold 

1181
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,200
like it's they're just going to 
ramp up everything and we're 

1182
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:24,700
going to see you know, several 
more launches this year once 

1183
00:59:24,700 --> 00:59:27,500
that happens to try and prove 
itself if they have any issues 

1184
00:59:27,500 --> 00:59:29,200
with it. 
Well that's going to set them 

1185
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,900
back a little bit. 
Yeah but they'll still okay. 

1186
00:59:30,900 --> 00:59:32,300
But they're not going to stop 
weird right? 

1187
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:33,600
They have. 
Yeah they're not going to stop 

1188
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:34,400
are going to keep pushing. 
Yeah. 

1189
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,200
And they have like we were 
talking about earlier. 

1190
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,700
They have the NASA money, they 
have billions of dollars from 

1191
00:59:38,700 --> 00:59:43,100
NASA to create this Starship. 
And, you know, the the hls 

1192
00:59:43,100 --> 00:59:47,700
program I think it was Almost 3 
billion for that from NASA. 

1193
00:59:47,900 --> 00:59:51,000
It's like two point eight, nine 
billion or something and they 

1194
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,400
have the money so they got to 
keep moving forward in. 

1195
00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:57,000
The FAA, will they know it's a 
test vehicle so they'll 

1196
00:59:57,000 --> 01:00:01,300
understand and from the start 
part of the part of the reason 

1197
01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:07,200
for starlink was to pay for this
research. 

1198
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,600
Yeah. 
Into new vehicles. 

1199
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:14,000
They have 100 know how many 
customer a million. 

1200
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,600
Uh, stammers or something. 
Yeah, now are starting over x 

1201
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:20,300
100 million dollars a month. 
Yeah, obviously there's there's 

1202
01:00:20,500 --> 01:00:23,800
costs involved in running 
starlink and launching things 

1203
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,000
and that sort of thing, but a 
hundred million dollars every 

1204
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:28,600
month. 
Coming in from, there's got to 

1205
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,100
be some profits that they're 
feeding over to this. 

1206
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,900
Yeah. 
And I believe there was an IPO 

1207
01:00:34,900 --> 01:00:38,000
scheduled, you know. 
I think it was I think it was 

1208
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,400
reported last year of end of 
last year. 

1209
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:44,900
The Starling could IPO in like 
20 Five ish. 

1210
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:51,800
So that's gonna Infuse so much 
more money into space x dash. 

1211
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Yeah, it got a, You've Got A 
system that clearly works. 

1212
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,800
Yep. 
And it's been running for a 

1213
01:00:56,808 --> 01:00:59,000
couple of years and so that 
you're going to make it public. 

1214
01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:02,100
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
That is a very successful 

1215
01:01:02,100 --> 01:01:03,100
launch. 
Yeah. 

1216
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,600
And I believe yeah, that a lot 
of that money is going to go 

1217
01:01:07,600 --> 01:01:11,300
towards Starship development 
because they need a Starship to 

1218
01:01:11,300 --> 01:01:13,200
launch all these Sterling 
satellites. 

1219
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,400
So, So and as soon as I can 
start launching Starling 

1220
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:20,300
satellites, they go from 
launching, you know, only a few 

1221
01:01:20,300 --> 01:01:22,300
to hundreds at a time. 
Yeah. 

1222
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:26,200
And that is going to just speed 
up everything and it's cheaper. 

1223
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:30,000
You know, that's a crazy thing 
is, I think that a starling 

1224
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,300
launch on a on a Starship is 
going to be cheaper than 

1225
01:01:34,300 --> 01:01:38,600
watching it on the Falcon 9 for 
more startling satellites. 

1226
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:41,000
Yeah, I believe that's true. 
I believe that's true. 

1227
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,800
I was it a million alone you're 
talking. 

1228
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:44,400
It's, you're talking to you. 
Cool. 

1229
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:46,300
Yeah it just feel at that point.
Yeah. 

1230
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:49,200
Because it's yeah, there's other
things too obviously but it's 

1231
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,400
just fuel. 
Yeah. 

1232
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,000
There's people, of course, they 
need paychecks. 

1233
01:01:53,300 --> 01:01:56,200
But you know, ground Crews, 
ground systems, things like 

1234
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:58,100
that, but the development once 
it's done. 

1235
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,700
What's the developments of 
course like iterate and make it 

1236
01:02:00,700 --> 01:02:04,700
a little bit better here and 
there but you know, the Rockets 

1237
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:06,900
there, the whole systems are 
there, ground systems? 

1238
01:02:06,900 --> 01:02:09,200
Are there? 
Everything's ready to go and you

1239
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:11,200
can launch star links whenever 
you need to. 

1240
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:16,400
Yeah. 
And SpaceX does not mind risking

1241
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,500
starlings, you know. 
They'll put that on a test 

1242
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:20,600
vehicle. 
No problem. 

1243
01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:22,600
Yeah, that's why I think you'll 
probably see some on this 

1244
01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:26,800
diverse vehicle it just to just 
to test it, you know, see if 

1245
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:28,400
they can. 
Although I think that the 

1246
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,700
Heavenly the I think they've 
actually welded the launch area 

1247
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:35,300
shut on this vehicle. 
So, yeah, the Pez dispensers 

1248
01:02:35,300 --> 01:02:36,400
one. 
Well, there might be one in 

1249
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:39,600
decide to that's the other thing
like that could be the payload 

1250
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,400
because they're going to need a 
payload into test. 

1251
01:02:41,500 --> 01:02:43,400
That. 
So that was another theory going

1252
01:02:43,400 --> 01:02:46,300
around for a while is that we 
never see the inside of a 

1253
01:02:46,308 --> 01:02:48,200
Starship. 
So we don't really know what's 

1254
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:52,300
inside, but they could, before 
they launched this thing, they 

1255
01:02:52,300 --> 01:02:55,200
could have already had a picture
from inside, or they could take 

1256
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,100
a picture from inside this, the 
ship and go. 

1257
01:02:58,100 --> 01:03:00,900
Hey, look, what's inside? 
We got to start Lake in that 

1258
01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:03,900
hype. 
Sup starlink, of course, Right. 

1259
01:03:03,900 --> 01:03:07,700
And you know, it proves that the
payload is that they can ship a 

1260
01:03:07,707 --> 01:03:11,800
payload. 
So in that of course brings in 

1261
01:03:11,808 --> 01:03:15,700
more investment, brings in more 
people, brings in the best of 

1262
01:03:15,700 --> 01:03:17,000
the best to work for the 
company. 

1263
01:03:17,500 --> 01:03:20,000
And that's what SpaceX wants. 
They want to keep the hype train

1264
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,000
roll into. 
So the really good at that, like

1265
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,500
launching elon's car into space,
for sure. 

1266
01:03:26,600 --> 01:03:28,800
Yeah. 
So yeah, big publicity stunt but

1267
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,600
it works exactly such only 
advertising. 

1268
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,000
They do. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1269
01:03:33,500 --> 01:03:35,900
Tube channel is the best 
advertising for SpaceX. 

1270
01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:39,400
So I think we covered everything
with the Starship flight today. 

1271
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:42,400
I am, I'm excited. 
I'm excited for this. 

1272
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,100
It's going to be think that 
that's next obvious. 

1273
01:03:44,100 --> 01:03:47,500
Next, we can couple months, we 
have a lot to look forward to. 

1274
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:52,100
Yeah, there's a lot of work to 
do, but also a lot to, I don't 

1275
01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:53,700
know if you have now we're not 
going to work that hard. 

1276
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:56,100
I'm going to be excited, I'm 
just gonna be super pumped the 

1277
01:03:56,100 --> 01:03:57,800
whole time. 
I'm going to talk about it in 

1278
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,400
like, for me, this is just this 
like the passion that we both 

1279
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,300
have for this in the excitement 
we have. 

1280
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:06,900
For space flight. 
Like I never record anything and

1281
01:04:06,900 --> 01:04:10,500
don't get excited and happy to 
talk about it because it's just 

1282
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:13,200
something that's great. 
Like I loved every second of 

1283
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:14,700
this. 
It is work. 

1284
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:18,900
Mind you, it does take effort 
but it's the best kind of thing 

1285
01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:22,100
you could ever do. 
So sad, do a little bit of work.

1286
01:04:23,700 --> 01:04:28,100
Yeah, Basics does a lot more but
I just talked about it. 

1287
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,800
So yeah, thanks for thanks for 
joining me today Neal because 

1288
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:31,800
we're going to thanks for having
me. 

1289
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:33,300
Have fun and thanks to 
everybody. 

1290
01:04:33,500 --> 01:04:35,800
Out there who's supported the 
show throughout the whole time. 

1291
01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:39,200
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1292
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:42,800
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1293
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,200
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1294
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,900
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1295
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,500
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1296
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:55,000
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If you like this, kind of this 

1297
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:58,600
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into depth, we go in depth about

1298
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:03,100
SpaceX Starship and spaceflight 
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1299
01:05:03,100 --> 01:05:04,900
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Tough or passionate about it and

1300
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:07,900
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So a five star rating on a 

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01:05:07,900 --> 01:05:11,000
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I guess that's it for today. 

1302
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:13,700
Yeah, thanks. 
Alright, thank you. 

1303
01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:14,700
Yeah, see you guys later.
