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Hi everybody, welcome back to 
the show. 

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Today's episode is all about the
IFT 3 flight for the Starship 

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Super Heavy from Boca Chica 
Starbase, Texas. 

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We're going to talk about the 
mission that's going to be 

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happening during this flight 
because it's impressive what 

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SpaceX is going to be trying to 
accomplish with this one as 

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opposed to the IFT 2 hot sieging
was super impressive. 

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They got that pretty much right.
Now we know the booster blew up 

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and we know the ship blew up, 
but there are some things that 

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they could be doing with the 
next flight that are absolutely 

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necessary for the Artemis 3 
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And these just came up a little 
bit ago and I want to show you a

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few of these things happening. 
The human landing system 

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activities which were this is 
part of a slide from a NASA 

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presentation the other day. 
They show here that several 

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milestones completed including a
vacuum optimized Raptor 

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performance test that 
successfully confirmed the 

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engine can be started in the 
extreme colder conditions result

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resulting from extended time and
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I can believe their second 
Starship flight test and are 

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quickly moving towards their 
third, which will include a 

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propellant transfer 
demonstration. 

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That's what we're talking about 
today, the propellant transfer 

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demonstration. 
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they need to send starships to 
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they have tankers of Starship 
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The Starship will mate with 
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transfer propellant from the 
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ship will go to the moon or 
wherever else it's going to be 

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going. 
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So let's take a look at this 
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is an important thing that we 
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The you see the starships here 
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see the propellant tanker is 
it's almost twice as high as you

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can see. 
It's about, I did not not a 

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perfectly straight line there, 
but it's pretty close and as you

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can see there's a little bit of 
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here, it's a little bit taller, 
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And if we go back to this slide,
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flight test and then quickly 
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include a propellant transfer 
demonstration. 

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Now, do they mean a full 
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And do they have a propellant 
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And the answer to that is 
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OK. 
So more than likely, and this is

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actually being confirmed by a 
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will be doing a fluid transfer 
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something to something, from 
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they're doing their IFT 3 
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So they're going to get into 
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They broke the carbon line with 
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So that means they're 
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And this is what this NASA 
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SpaceX signed a while ago. 
So right here, as you can see, 

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SpaceX of Hawthorne Large scale 
Flight demonstration to transfer

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10 metric tons of cryogenic 
propellant, specifically liquid 

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oxygen between tanks on a 
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SpaceX will collaborate with a 
Glen and Marshall. 

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Now these are tipping point 
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Artemis program. 
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propellant between tanks on a 
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So not only are we going to see 
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tanker, the big propellant 
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but this next flight, the I FT3 
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transferring propellant from one
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flying. 
Now this is incredible and these

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things have been confirmed a few
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And you know, one of the one of 
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was Michael Sheets. 
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Everybody knows Michael Sheets, 
Mike Sheets, the man and NBC 

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guy. 
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Space Flight will include a 
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And then he reached out to NASA 
in the in the later tweet, and 

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we'll talk about that too. 
Hawkins didn't address the third

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Starship test flights plans in 
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So I've reached out to NASA and 
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propellant transfer 
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context. 
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SpaceX and NASA had the tipping 
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And then we're going to take a 
look at the update from Michael 

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Sheets. 
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propellant transfer 
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soon as the third test flight 
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although the plan is subject to 
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important here. 
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happens with Space Flight 
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properly for the I FT3 flight. 
They may not be ready for it. 

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They may not have the right 
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flight for the propellant 
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demonstration. 
So we're gonna see in the near 

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future if this is actually a 
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for SpaceX to come out and say 
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going to be happening with the 
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Now, this tipping point 
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quick look at this cryogenic 10 
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I know I'm behind that stuff is 
behind me. 

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But I'll tell you what it says 
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propellant, specifically liquid 
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Starship vehicle. 
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be transferring it to the to the
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tanker's a whole different beast
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a half, but full of propellant 
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orbit. 
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a a mock up of this? 
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that a little bit because that's
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too. 
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interesting, another fun thing 
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flight. 
Toby Lee, the internal date for 

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IFT 3 is scheduled for Christmas
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guaranteed to slip. 
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the pad, they're still working 
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still working on the launch area
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And they have 20 days to get 
this right, to to get all the 

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propellant loading, all the all 
the static fires done, all the 

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stacking. 
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restack, do fit checks, things 
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actually fly this. 
Could they do that in three 

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weeks? 
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can't really move that fast, and
that seems like a horrible thing

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to say. 
The SpaceX can't move really 

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fast because they're moving 
faster than everybody else ever,

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like, literally ever. 
They're they're the fastest 

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Space Flight company ever. 
But can they do this in three 

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weeks? 
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fire numerous times. 
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days to do a static fire. 
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like a couple seconds, you know,
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They have to move the booster 
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area and then they have to lift 
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and around to the mount. 
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right? 
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fire. 
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actually, they have to do 
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have to check out systems. 
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system. 
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day. 
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take three or four days 
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itself 5-6 days. 
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thing with the ship, 5-6 days, 
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two weeks. 
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they have to move things around.
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everything works properly when 
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and then they have to do, you 
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stacked area. 
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get certification from the FAA 
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while. 
So they may be able to stack it.

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They may be able to stack it by 
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anything tech, anything tech. 
I've worked in tech for 15 years

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and engineering, you know, I've 
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my whole life. 
I know how this works. 

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Usually when they set an 
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people to aspire to. 
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Day. 
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engineers and the people at 
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because everyone's going on 
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scheduled for Christmas Day. 
It's almost guaranteed a slip. 

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Yeah, Toby Lee, you're right, 
it's almost guaranteed a slip. 

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But the internal dates are to 
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continue working as hard as they
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hours so they can get everything
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Christmas break. 
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everything as as good as 
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because they do have a Christmas
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They do have Christmas breaks 
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people at SpaceX. 
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going to be a big team there for
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be taking vacations for a week 
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And they're not going to have 
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So there's a possibility they're
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that they get as much work done 
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So more than likely I FT3 will 
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Unfortunately for us, you know 
we probably let's just how about

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tell me in the comments, do you 
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the comments because I don't 
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It seems like it it might be 
possible if they get everything 

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absolutely perfectly done right 
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now, like literally they have to
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as soon as possible. 
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already see a propellant tanker 
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Could this be the article? 
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tanker test model? 
The ship 26? 

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They did a static fire on it. 
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Because they have to get the 
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perfectly done. 
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the first few flights event in 
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properly. 
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Artemis and etcetera. 
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would they satisfy this if 
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the future unless they were 
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next Raptor engines or something
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It it's there's a anything is 
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here. 
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to transfer propellant in the 
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So in there's going to be a 
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tank transfer and ship 26. 
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orbit propellant transfer 
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Or it could have just been a 
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out flow or you know any 
anything's possible with this 

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too. 
Could they be flying IFT 3? 

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And then there's some, some set 
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There's some weird stuff with 
that too, if you think about it,

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because this doesn't have, 
doesn't have any wings, it 

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doesn't have any heat shield, it
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other ships that have already 
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you know, ship 24/7 even had all
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shield and the wings and 
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But this has nothing. 
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It's just a nose cone and a 
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of course in the engines. 
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Flame? 
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that a little bit because it 
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orbit propellant transfer. 
And if they don't really care, 

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like how it functions after 
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something up that's just has 
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And they get that, they get that
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It doesn't have to land 
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It can burn up. 
Sorry. 

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You can belly smack her in the 
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anything else could. 
And it doesn't need a heath 

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shield. 
It doesn't really. 

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I mean, does it need wings if 
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space? 
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But when it comes back in it 
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well without the wings. 
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possibility that this could be 
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and they just shoot it up there 
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the Raptor engines, but not as 
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slight, slight possibility. 
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possibility that this thing 
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ship. 
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in the comments, because I want 
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I want to hear some some ideas 
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without any way to steer this 
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engines, it might be too 
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this is totally a a test 
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test a test ship. 
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anything like that. 
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that all the other things are 
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that the propellant tanks don't 
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only one of these and there's a 
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other ships, you know, that are 
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that are like raring to go until
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installed on the next ship. 
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by, I'm going to guess, 
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get this thing ready because 
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fast until December 25th and 
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Christmas. 
It gets dead. 

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There's barely anybody there for
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to lose about a week's worth of 
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And you know, just side of the 
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down there, I I barely saw 
anybody else. 

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guards and Jessica Kirsch and a 
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wander through. 
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or engineers or anybody working 
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itself, there's a possibility 
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Starbase basically shuts down 
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So they're going to push hard 
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end of December, they're going 
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get everybody ready for the new 
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push hard to get IFT 3 off the 
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They would really love to get it
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though, because they have five 
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their current contract. 
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off by the end of the year, they
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They could get three done out of
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on January 1st with five more. 
So, and they can always, if they

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need it, they can get more. 
So that might not even be an 

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issue going forward. 
So it it could be a small thing 

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that they just have to reapply 
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probably already in the process 
of them. 

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So they have to prove this out 
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That's pretty much it like we're
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don't see a flight happening by 
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Also, there's one other really 
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you, Jared Isaacman. 
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commander, and this is for the 
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we're all familiar with the 
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much cool stuff for the Hubble. 
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science operations of the Hubble
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safe Mode November 23rd due to 
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Hubble's instruments are stable 
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health, so everything's working 
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The gyroscopes went down. 
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whole like completely offline 
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thing is old. 
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old, decades old. 
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us in coach. 
OK, so that's. 

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So if you're not familiar with 
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program is using SpaceX 
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Crew Dragons to basically go to 
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to orbit. 
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to go to orbit and they're going
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demonstrations to show that 
human spaceflight for regular 

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people and discovery missions 
and science missions for regular

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people is possible. 
So Jared says put us in coach 

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they've been training for 
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it. 
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flights, they're doing 
parachuting. 

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They're doing everything that 
like a, like a NASA astronaut 

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would do. 
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they're normal people. 
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people that are doing 
exceptional things. 

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But they aren't NASA astronauts.
You know, they're, they're not 

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trained by NASA. 
They didn't have to go through 

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decades of training in the Air 
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something like that in order to 
get to this position. 

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Jared is a pilot. 
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go through training and that's 
where they're that's what 

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they're doing here. 
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to do these incredible missions 
to to do things like this. 

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And there was a couple more 
comments that were impressive 

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here. 
Do you think it would be best to

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repair Hubble or recover or 
preserve and preserve with 

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Starship? 
Both can eventually be done, 

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said Jared. 
Jared. 

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So Hubble repairs, we know that 
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times. 
There are, there's use cases for

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Hubble, of course. 
So much science has been done 

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with Hubble. 
We've discovered so many things 

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and we can continue to discover 
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Both can eventually be done now,
STSS TS125 said. 

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Problem is, Hubble needs more 
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It needs repairs. 
How do you expect to do this 

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without the shuttle 
capabilities? 

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It was hard work then, with the 
best only vehicle capable of 

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such work. 
Now, Jared said replacement 

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computers and gyros are not the 
size of refrigerators anymore. 

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Now STS 125 says. 
I get that. 

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I'm thinking more about how do 
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of Hubble and do the work with 
the resources, especially the 

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Canadarm, or without the 
resources? 

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It's what they wanted to say 
without the resources, 

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especially the Canadarm, because
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would fly up, open up its hatch,
and people would, you know, 

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transfer from the shuttle to the
to the to the telescope via the,

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you know, via the ship. 
But now Jared said a study has 

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already been done with this. 
So all good. 

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Like, Jared's like, we can do 
it. 

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Let's just go like NASA, please 
just let us go up there. 

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Why aren't you let us letting us
go up there? 

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I don't know what the deal is, 
but why aren't you just letting 

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us do this? 
And you know, Jared is a 

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exceptional human being. 
He's done so many wonderful 

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things. 
And he is a proponent of human 

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spaceflight, continues to work 
hard to kind of lay the 

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foundation for future 
spaceflight. 

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For I keep calling them regular 
people or normal people, but 

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they are exceptional people 
doing this right now. 

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But eventually, decades down the
line, everybody will be able to 

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go to space, which is insane to 
think about because these are 

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things that we thought about and
people have thought about since 

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the dawn of the space age and 
since the dawn of the Wright 

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Brothers. 
Like, how can we get to the 

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moon? 
And they've been thinking about 

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this for hundreds of thousands 
of years. 

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Like, how do we get up there? 
This is the foundation, this 

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the, this is the legwork that 
needed to be done. 

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Jared and his teams will be like
basically go down in history is 

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some of the first people to do 
this other than through a 

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government because governments 
have deep pockets and they also 

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have the resources to hire 
people that will get these jobs 

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done. 
Engineers, scientists, etcetera.

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They can get these jobs done. 
Now we have for profit companies

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like SpaceX and we also have 
billionaires like Jared who's 

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like, I'm going to do this cool 
stuff. 

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Can we work together? 
I got all this money. 

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Like, yeah, sure. 
I I do like so much wonderful 

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things through Saint Jude and 
helping people out. 

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But shift for payments, things 
like that, like his, his 

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company's make bazillions of 
dollars. 

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Jared is like, I'm a, I'm a, you
know, an extreme kind of person.

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I would like to go to space, 
please, SpaceX, take my money, 

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You know, the meme. 
Take my money. 

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And yeah, so it's like, that's 
what he did to SpaceX. 

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Like I want to do these cool 
things. 

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How can we do this rationally 
and get these jobs done? 

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Because I want to. 
I want to be. 

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I want to be the guy, you know 
and that's it takes a certain 

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kind of person to do that and 
Jared is that person. 

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So yeah, I think this is 
possible. 

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I think it's just really cool. 
It's just a cool little side 

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thing that we had to talk about 
today. 

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I thought it was really neat. 
But there's there's like one 

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other thing that I want to tell 
you about because I know if you 

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went this far along this rant 
that I've been going on today. 

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SpaceX has been talking about 
having like 8 to 10 propellant 

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transfer vehicles on their ship 
shipped to transfer to to the 

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tanker from the tanker to the 
ship and NASA just came through 

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with a high teens number Hawkins
estimated high teens is driven 

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by concerns over propellant loss
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So these depots high teens so 
with SpaceX and Elon were saying

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like 8 you know and then they're
saying high teens. 

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So it just basically double S 
it, you know, like OK, high 

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teens, they're going to send 
eight or they're going to send 

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15 tankers going to boil off 
because basically the sun is 

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beating down on these things and
they're not complete. 

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Like the molecules in the 
propellant leak out after a 

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while. 
And it's just like what can you 

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do, right? 
Like it's just physics, it's 

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just that's how it works. 
So boil off happens unless 

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SpaceX can launch these ships 
immediately to, you know, they 

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they might be able to send these
like eight tankers up in the 

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same 48 hours. 
And if that's the case, you 

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know, one or two from the Cape 
and then one or two from Texas, 

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one or two from the Cape, one or
two from tech. 

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You know, back and forth, back 
and forth, Get 8 to 10 up there 

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and then send the ship up. 
That's going to be incredible. 

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Is that possible by Artemis 3? 
Now they're kind of pushing back

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Artemis 3 to 2027 now, which is,
you know it's kind of concerning

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but also it's spaceflight and 
the initial the initial time 

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frames for this were ridiculous 
to begin with. 

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Everybody knew this in the 
spaceflight industry that the 

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the time frames for this were 
ridiculous like we're not going 

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to get you know Artemis 3 to to 
the moon by 2024. 

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You know like it. 
It just it's it's a ridiculous 

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timeline and the the idea was 
just put it out there and then 

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of course it's NASA and it's the
government So you can kind of 

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push back a little bit and you 
can get the the time frames that

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you need. 
But if the International 

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Astronomical Congress didn't 
specify a number only mentioned 

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the need for multiple launches 
Hawkins estimated high teens 

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achieving the Artemis schedule 
imaging the fuel loss requires 

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rapid successful successive 
launches. 

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These will occur from Boca Chica
Texas and Kennedy Space Center 

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at 39 A on a six day rotation. 
So boom boom boom, boom. 

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You know that that's it's going 
to be insane. 

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And we also have a website So if
you want to learn about this 

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stuff, Space News pod.com. 
Go check out SpaceX news there's

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numerous other things you can do
here. 

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learn about a lot of Starship 

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stuff. 
So yeah, please go check out 

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And also if you get a second our

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Let me know what you think in 
the comments below about the the

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tanker transfer protocols and 
when do you think, when do you 

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think any of this is going to 
happen? 

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You know, is it is the tanker 
transfer going to happen in IFT 

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3? 
When is it going to happen? 

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Is it going to happen before 
December 25th? 

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It's going to be, it's going to 
be close. 

456
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So if you'd like to read, there 
you go, Space News pod.com. 

457
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So thanks everybody for tuning 
in today. 

458
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I really do appreciate you and I
wanna say thank you again to 

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everybody who is a member of the
channel. 

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I cannot do this without you. 
We have a 

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patreonpatreon.com/space News 
Pod and also catch us on X at 

462
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Space News pod and on Facebook 
too. 

463
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Space News pod, I don't really 
use Facebook as much but it's 

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there. 
So and we also have Twitch at 

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Space News pod and I think 
that's it for now. 

466
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So take care, everybody. 
And please, you know, take care 

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of yourselves and each other and
I will see you in the next 

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episode. 
OK. 

469
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There is a goodbye thank you 
thing right here. 

470
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Join the flight crew right over 
there. 

471
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,160
You can join it. 
You can subscribe to the show. 

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Give us a thumbs up, let us know
what you're thinking, and then 

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become part of the flight crew. 
And that's about it. 

474
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All right. 
Bye. 

475
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Bye everybody.