1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,520 Hey everybody. Welcome back to the Elon Musk 2 00:00:04,520 --> 00:00:07,120 Podcast. This is a show where we discuss 3 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:11,520 the critical crossroads that shape SpaceX, Tesla X, The 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:15,600 Boring Company, and Neurolink. I'm your host, Will Walden. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:22,080 So Tesla is going to launch a more affordable Model Y and 6 00:00:22,080 --> 00:00:25,280 Model 3. It's not the $25,000 model that 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:29,440 everybody was hoping for. No, it's like $40,000. 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:34,200 This is the affordable version of its Model YSUV and Model 3. 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,280 One of those $39,990.00, the other one's 36,990. 10 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:45,080 They're available for order with deliveries expected in December 11 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:49,200 and January. The next trim model up is $5000 12 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,080 more. So my guess would be to to save 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:01:00,000 the $5000 and then buy them the next the better model. 14 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,000 Don't worry about these ones. These yeah, it's still $40,000. 15 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,959 That's a huge amount of money for a car. 16 00:01:06,320 --> 00:01:11,680 We were all expecting a $25,000 car or maybe 32,000 would have 17 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:18,120 been nice for a new car. But yeah, we were, we were not 18 00:01:18,960 --> 00:01:22,880 given that we are going to 40 thou basically 40,000, a 37,000 19 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:28,240 and a $40,000 car. Now they're doing this because 20 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:29,760 they're trying to reignite slow sales. 21 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,040 But the pricing landed higher than a lot of people expected. 22 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,800 And investors and potential buyers unconvinced that Tesla 23 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:42,320 has truly entered the mass market because Elon Musk has 24 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:44,600 promised this, promised this for years. 25 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:51,640 We were supposed to get a, a cheap, you know, inexpensive, I 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:58,280 should say a value model of a Tesla sometime last year or the 27 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:02,280 year before ish. This is not it. 28 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:04,680 This is not affordable for most people. 29 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:08,520 So this is what they are, though let me tell you what they are. 30 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,400 The new versions cut some of Tesla's features, premium 31 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:15,120 finishes, high end driver assists and automatic seat 32 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,160 adjustments, but they still get 300 miles of range. 33 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:22,280 Plus, the company said the changes allow for lower 34 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,080 production costs and quicker delivery schedules. 35 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:31,760 But the threshold that would bring in new budget minded 36 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:34,320 buyers for the price is way too high. 37 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,520 Tesla had previously positioned affordability as the key to 38 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:41,840 unlocking growth. Neon Musk even said last year 39 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,320 that a sub $30,000 vehicle after incentives was essential for 40 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,800 broad adoption. So if you look at it like this, 41 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,240 the $7500 tax incentives are going away. 42 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,360 So they price this so it'd be around $30,000 if you get the 43 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,960 $7500 incentive from the US government. 44 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:10,200 So I can understand them pricing it at 37,000 and 30 and 40,000, 45 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,720 then it's around 30,000 for each. 46 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:18,360 But those are going away. Tesla stock fell 4.5% following 47 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:22,560 the launch, and investors saw the move as a pricing tactic 48 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,120 rather than a meaningful product advance. 49 00:03:25,640 --> 00:03:29,360 Remember when Tesla would advance their products all the 50 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:33,520 time and create new wonderful things instead of stripping 51 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,720 things away? What they should have done. 52 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,080 A lot of people have talked about this too, and there's 53 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:41,720 they're going to do this eventually. 54 00:03:41,720 --> 00:03:46,920 I think if they don't go full AI and robotics, they're going to 55 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:55,480 build an affordable vehicle under $30,000, but I believe 56 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:58,320 that's far away. They don't have the capacity to 57 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,680 do that now and they don't really care to, I don't think 58 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:02,640 because they're making enough money right now. 59 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 The stock is crazy. People will the stock will 60 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:10,680 rebound, of course, because Elon or Tesla will come out with 61 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,240 something in the next few days to pump up the stock again. 62 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,959 Elon always says something. I'll post something on Twitter. 63 00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:24,160 Like, you know, working with SpaceX and Tesla together is 64 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,120 whatever. You know, people thought this 65 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,200 was going to be the Roadster too. 66 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,280 I thought it was not going to be the Roadster. 67 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,040 That would end cool. If we would have had two 68 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:40,360 announcements, a new Roadster and also a new $25,000 vehicle, 69 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,800 that would have been great. But that didn't happen, of 70 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520 course. But you know, the standard 71 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,040 versions of these vehicles that are out now that just got 72 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:53,840 announced are roughly $5000 cheaper than the next level 73 00:04:53,840 --> 00:04:57,920 trims. That's not really a new demand 74 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,480 though, $5000. When you're buying a car, for 75 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:06,560 most people it's saving up for a few more months. 3-4 months and 76 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,560 you can get 5000, maybe not 5000, but you can get a 77 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,280 substantial amount of money and get a loan, you know? 78 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,920 So the EV tax credit is expiring, which had helped 79 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:22,440 sustain its lower end sales. Without that cushion though, the 80 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,720 new Model 3 and Y now cost more than they did just a month ago 81 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,920 when incentives were still active. 82 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,720 And Tesla's decision to adjust pricing instead of developing an 83 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:35,800 all new low cost model is a new shift. 84 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,400 Last year, he quietly canceled plans for the long promised 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,200 $25,000 EV, choosing instead to rework existing platforms for 86 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,000 affordability. The decision raised concerns 87 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,560 amongst investors that cheaper variants could cannibalize 88 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:54,760 Tesla's high margin models also. So there's tension between 89 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:59,440 Tesla's growth and its need to maintain profitability in the 90 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,400 tightening EV market. They have, they have a lot of 91 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:05,960 competitors now. BYD is just ready to take it. 92 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:08,400 Take them out all over the world. 93 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,200 Tesla's losing market share because BYD has very inexpensive 94 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,600 models that are amazing cars, and Tesla can't compete with 95 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,120 that. They need to have that $40,000 96 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:22,680 car, don't they? But these new cars, they drop 97 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,800 amenities like heated rear seats, an LED light bar on the 98 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,520 Model Y, and Tesla's auto steer system. 99 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,320 Interior materials are simpler too, with textile seats standard 100 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:37,160 and vegan leather optional on the Model 3. 101 00:06:37,760 --> 00:06:40,920 Tesla also switched to manual mirror adjustments, a cost 102 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,120 saving move that marks a clear step away from the brand's 103 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:47,160 luxury image. The company's decision to scale 104 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:51,880 back features rather than introduce new tech is a weird 105 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,520 one. Many see the cars as a practical 106 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:58,360 move to stabilize revenue, while Tesla continues to pivot toward 107 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,000 AI driven ventures such as robotaxis and robots. 108 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Others view it as a sign to retreat from Tesla's innovation 109 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:12,240 driven identity. So this could be compared to 110 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,240 dropping Steve Jobs turtleneck for sort of like a Walmart 111 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:22,520 hoodie. You know, you need to appear 112 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,760 premium and practical at the same time. 113 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,120 But Tesla, they're still premium. 114 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,240 They're not affordable from most people. 115 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,880 Most people aren't going to buy a $40,000 car, to be honest with 116 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,040 you. They're going to buy a $30,000 117 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:41,320 car and these are $40,000 cars. This is how it is. 118 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,320 So competition is growing fiercer. 119 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:51,080 Like I said before, in the US, Chevy's Equinox EV and Hyundai's 120 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Ionic 5, you know, they're, they're just ready to take out 121 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,720 Tesla. Tesla faces more than a dozen 122 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,240 electric and hybrid models priced under 30,000 in Europe. 123 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:12,120 In China, domestic automakers, BYD and others are sub 35,000. 124 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:17,800 So Tesla is squeezed between cheaper local rivals and premium 125 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,800 incumbents. But it's difficult. 126 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:22,840 It'll be difficult for Tesla to stand out. 127 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:29,920 They pioneered the EV industry, but can they continue to pioneer 128 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,520 to the next level? I'm not sure. 129 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,320 After this, it seems kind of weird. 130 00:08:35,799 --> 00:08:40,320 They just downgraded a few things and then I think most 131 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,720 people will just save the money and or save the money up for 132 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,160 the, you know, few months and get a better model. 133 00:08:46,560 --> 00:08:48,520 But, you know. Sales in the third quarter this 134 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,520 year rose to a record as buyers rushed to claim tax credits 135 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,720 before their expiration on September 30th. 136 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,240 But industry forecasts suggests that momentum won't last, is 137 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,760 going to level out or sink, and there's no incentive from the 138 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,600 government anymore. Tesla risk seeing demand 139 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:08,040 softened through the end of the year unless the new models gain 140 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:09,520 traction. I don't think they're going to, 141 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,640 though. They're too expensive. 142 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:14,600 Musk acknowledged the challenge earlier, saying during Tesla's 143 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,880 July earnings call that the desire to buy the car is very 144 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:20,440 high. It's just that people don't have 145 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,160 enough money in the bank account to buy it. 146 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 So yeah, I mean, you want it nice to say like, yeah, I want 147 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:29,920 nice things. But you know, it's like, yeah, I 148 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:32,360 want a mansion too. I want a yacht. 149 00:09:32,560 --> 00:09:35,160 I want to, I want to rocket. I want a helicopter. 150 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:38,560 And I don't have the money for those things, but it'd be cool 151 00:09:38,560 --> 00:09:41,120 to have them. There's the desire to buy the 152 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:47,240 car. So I think Elon's head is in the 153 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,680 wrong place here. I'm going to go out a limb here. 154 00:09:50,680 --> 00:09:56,400 I'm going to say something that not a lot of people would talk 155 00:09:56,400 --> 00:10:00,440 about that are in my position and saying this is a stupid 156 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:04,360 move. I don't think people, I don't 157 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:07,720 think people care that much. You know, you're going to have 158 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:12,840 your people that are just super psycho Tesla fans that are like, 159 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,880 this is an amazing move. But if you step back, and I'd 160 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:20,920 like to step back from every topic that I cover here, step 161 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:27,320 back and think about it objectively, I don't see a 162 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:34,440 difference between a $40,000 car and a $35,000 car. 163 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,040 It's $5000, but they're still super expensive to the normal 164 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,840 person. If it's a 40 thousand $45,000 165 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,880 car, you know, there's a certain market that has that kind of 166 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,600 money for a vehicle and they'll justify it in any way they can, 167 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:55,160 which is I don't have to buy gas, never have to go to a gas 168 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,320 station again, which is great for a lot of people. 169 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:58,800 They just plug in it at their house. 170 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,520 They'll justify it by saying, well, I can keep this car for a 171 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,360 very long time. I can keep this car for 10 years 172 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,600 and it won't, you know, I won't really need any maintenance on 173 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,120 it. I just need new tires eventually 174 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:16,000 or brakes, you know, and some some other small things. 175 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,920 So the maintenance repairs are minimal. 176 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:23,960 So they get their money's worth, but they also have the 50 or 177 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,920 $60,000 to buy the car. And if you don't have $35,000 or 178 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,480 $40,000 to buy a car, you're not going to buy a car anyway. 179 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,480 Not going to buy that car. You got to find a cheaper 180 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,880 alternative. Might buy a hybrid. 181 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:41,720 And at this point I don't see a problem with hybrids at all. 182 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,120 And most people don't need an EV. 183 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Most people would love to have an EV to get around town and 184 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:53,880 most people just drive around their city or their town. 185 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,080 Most people don't take long road trips. 186 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:03,120 You go to work every day, you come home and that's pretty much 187 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:06,160 it for most people's lives. And every once in a while you'll 188 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,960 take a long road trip on the weekend. 189 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:13,160 But that's why a hybrid is a really good choice because you, 190 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,880 if you have your, your day driver, which is electric, and 191 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:24,720 then on the weekends, crank up that, crank up that gas engine, 192 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:29,760 that ICE engine, and, you know, get out of town. 193 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:36,200 But a $40,000 EV when Tesla was saying that they're going to 194 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:42,640 have less expensive E VS $30,000 would have been great. 195 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:49,040 You know, if if he could have got it to 29995 and just taken 196 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,960 out a few other things, that would have been a game changer 197 00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:56,320 because everybody wants like people want a Tesla. 198 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,000 Like he said, people want a Tesla. 199 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,560 I think it'd be great to have a Tesla, but how could you have a 200 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:07,720 stripped down Tesla that is a great vehicle but doesn't cost 201 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,560 $45,000 or $40,000? You'd have to take out a lot of 202 00:13:11,560 --> 00:13:13,240 stuff. Does it change a lot of 203 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:14,960 manufacturing and would it be worth it? 204 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,600 I think if you get under 30,000, people would buy it. 205 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:25,120 It just, it's that number, you know, $30,000 you can buy an ICE 206 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,760 vehicle. And I know people have the 207 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:30,440 reasons for not wanting an ICE vehicle, but you can get a 208 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:39,000 really nice ICE vehicle, ICE car for under $35,000 for under 209 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:44,640 $30,000 that has most of the things that Tesla has. 210 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,600 You know, it's not it's fancy, you know, you don't have full 211 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,240 self driving, but have lane assist that's nice. 212 00:13:55,960 --> 00:14:00,240 Cruise control does a lot of work, you know, and you have you 213 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,640 have sensors too, right? So you don't need your car to 214 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,160 drive you everywhere because look where you're going. 215 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:12,880 Get off your phone and the the those vehicles are what 216 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:16,480 everybody else buys, you know, can buy like a technologically 217 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,760 advanced Honda for. Let me just look this up real 218 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,320 quick. Hold on, bear with me here. 219 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:28,840 I'm not going to edit this because I think it's I think we 220 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:32,160 should do this together. We're even do it like Carvana 221 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,480 style, because that's where people want to find a deal, 222 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,160 right. Let's go to Carvana and let's 223 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:50,960 look for Honda and we'll look for something that's like how to 224 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:57,640 CRV? How about that 33,005 brand new 225 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,960 nice vehicle, 2025, What does it got? 226 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:06,280 What do we got? Key features here Apple car 227 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,960 plate that's all you need Bluetooth music cool hands free 228 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:14,280 calling OK lane assist cruise control automatic braking blind 229 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:18,160 spot sensors collision detection lane departure warning rear 230 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:24,240 cross traffic alert rear view camera I mean and I'm I'm a fan 231 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:25,960 of Tesla. I know the technology is 232 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:35,160 amazing, but if you're in the $35,000 range and you want and 233 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,640 you want something that's a daily driver, but you need, 234 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:42,040 maybe you need something bigger, maybe you need a Model Y that's 235 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:47,040 $37,000 or $40,000, Sorry. But if you go down the scale, 236 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:51,120 you see some of the 33,032 thousand really great shape, 237 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,880 basically brand new. Would you pick that up? 238 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:00,920 Maybe you might, but maybe you don't like Hondas. 239 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:02,720 That's cool. I understand that. 240 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,400 Let's see how much a used Tesla is here. 241 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:08,800 We're doing this all together right now. 242 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,520 By the way, I used Tesla. We're going to do these prices 243 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:20,720 together. A 2025 Model 3 with 5000 miles. 244 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:24,960 Let's see here. What do we got? 245 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:33,040 2024 Model Y for 34590, 2023 model 3. 246 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,640 So if you don't need the cutting edge, you know, if you don't 247 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,360 need the cutting edge thing, you can get a 2023 model 3 for 248 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,600 30,000. Sounds great, right? 249 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:49,720 You get 2025 model 3 for 40. All black out of black, all 250 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:56,560 blacked out. It looks pretty sick, $2000 cash 251 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,680 down. You know, that's their estimate, 252 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,200 $2000 cash down. All right, that's not bad, 253 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,599 right? So if you look back at what 254 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:18,359 Tesla is offering, it's about a 35,000 to $40,000 vehicle and 255 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,160 it's cut down. So it's not sub 330 thousand, 256 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:26,800 which would have been great, but you can buy an ICE car for a 257 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:31,520 decent price and you could, you know, a nice ICE car for a 258 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,160 decent price. And that's what a lot of people 259 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:34,880 probably do. I'll be like, you know what? 260 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:40,240 This one isn't for me. I need something $20,000 less, 261 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:44,000 you know, or, or whatever, you know, the hottest CRV or Toyota 262 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,920 Rav 4 or something. Rav 4 is $25,000 to see those 263 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,600 things everywhere. It's not the fanciest car. 264 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:53,520 It's not like the prettiest car, but I see them everywhere. 265 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,040 I think it's, I think people are having good luck with them and 266 00:17:57,040 --> 00:18:01,800 also something like a Honda. You'll never like the Honda. 267 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:11,480 They're so reliable. 2025 HRV, sub 30,000, that's it. 268 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:14,600 You know, it's a good car and most people, they'll make their 269 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:19,640 decision on the features that the car has and basically does 270 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:23,920 it do the things I needed to do and can it get me from A to B 271 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,880 safely? And will it like, I just wanted 272 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:29,520 to be dependable. I don't want it to break down. 273 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,640 I wanted to be safe. That's it. 274 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:37,560 You know, in most of these, most of these vehicles, these ICE 275 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:41,720 vehicles, sub $30,000 ICE vehicles, they're fine. 276 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:43,760 You're going to buy, you're going to buy a fine car. 277 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:49,960 It's and I think people underestimate that when they're 278 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:55,320 searching for a Tesla or another EV because these are great 279 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,960 vehicles for what they are, you know, and they might not, might 280 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,560 not be a thing. Let's see if they have a Rivian. 281 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,560 Let's do one more. Let's see what you can get. 282 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:08,520 I've never, you know what, I moved to the South and I see 283 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,680 these Genesis cars everywhere. Those are ugly though. 284 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:26,080 Not a fan, not a fan. Let's look for Rivian Land 285 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,960 Rover. Let's let's go Mercedes see if 286 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,000 we can find a sub 30,000 Mercedes. 287 00:19:30,360 --> 00:19:34,760 Dude you can get a 2024 Mercedes Mercedes-Benz C Class for 288 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,520 33,000. You can get a Mercedes for 40 289 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:43,840 thousand 2025. Why wouldn't you get a benzo yo 290 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:53,400 get a a GLB for 35,000? Why wouldn't you get one of 291 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:54,680 those instead of a Tesla? It's up to you. 292 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,360 You know, most people would be like, man, I got 40,000, do I 293 00:19:57,360 --> 00:19:59,120 want that benzo? Maybe. 294 00:19:59,120 --> 00:20:06,360 Do you want this Porsche? I don't know. 295 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,800 There's Pulsar. Would you buy a Pulsar? 296 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,160 I don't know. Who knows what's going to happen 297 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,840 with that company or with this car. 298 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,200 Sorry. If you buy a Pulsar now, what's 299 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,720 going to happen to it? Is it going to be able to be 300 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:19,520 serviced? Maybe. 301 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,880 I don't know. They're nice cars, though. 302 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,880 I mean, they're not bad. But you can get a pulse star 303 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:30,320 pulse star 2 for 36,037 thousand. 304 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,200 But it's the same thing that literally has the same thing as 305 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,160 the how that I was talking about before. 306 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,560 Lane assist, cruise, adaptive cruise control, automatic 307 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,160 emergency braking, blind spot sensors, collision detection, 308 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,480 lane departure warning, parking assist, which the other one 309 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,280 didn't, but who needs that anyway? 310 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,160 I'm not good at parallel parking, so I could use that 311 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:57,200 actually. Is it worth the 3637 thousand 312 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:01,920 price tag though? I don't know rear cross traffic 313 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:04,080 alerts. It's I mean, and also the other 314 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,800 you know, it's it's an EV. It's nice and it has all the has 315 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:17,120 a nice interior and big screen. Apple car, play Android, all of 316 00:21:17,120 --> 00:21:22,960 the above hands free calling. I like how they put that. 317 00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:26,640 It's like, man, every car just comes should come standard with 318 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,600 that. You know, it's just be like, Oh 319 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,760 yeah, hands free calling. Of course, like you have a 320 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,480 speaker and you have a microphone in your car. 321 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,880 Of course you got to do hands free calling. 322 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,640 It's so funny. It's so funny the way they try 323 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,720 to upscale things that are just normal now. 324 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:51,240 Bluetooth music. Yeah, the parking assist, yeah, 325 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:55,000 if you can parallel park for me, man, might be worth that money. 326 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,320 I there was a spot that I was trying to get into the other 327 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,360 day. I just couldn't fit in. 328 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,520 Couldn't do it. I was, I was going to the city 329 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,880 to film something and I just couldn't fit my car in there. 330 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:10,200 I had to go around the block and walk like 2 blocks because my 331 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:16,200 car, it was in between like a giant construction truck and 332 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,520 another giant construction truck. 333 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:18,680 I was like, yeah, I could get in there. 334 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,120 Couldn't fit. So yeah, if this pole star two 335 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,080 could make it in there, I'd be pretty happy with that. 336 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,280 I'd pay the extra money for that. 337 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,280 That's worth it. So I don't know. 338 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:29,800 What do you think? Let me know in the comments. 339 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:34,080 What do you think of this whole shebang here? 340 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:45,120 The whole sub $40,000 basically 40 to 40 to 37. $1000 vehicle. 341 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,600 It's not that much, right? Not that much of a difference. 342 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:55,040 37, 37 at 40, it's like $3000 difference in these two models. 343 00:22:55,440 --> 00:23:00,720 Model 1 in the Model 3, it, it just doesn't make sense to me. 344 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,840 It's still a lot of money. More affordable would be. 345 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:06,520 Great, take out a few other features. 346 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,360 Make them sub 30. People would go wild. 347 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,560 People would go insane. The stock would have went crazy 348 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,520 if it was sub 30 guaranteed. Let's check the Tesla stock 349 00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,840 right now, see where it's at. Probably went up a little bit, 350 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,360 not still down 4.45% today. We'll check it tomorrow, but 351 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:34,480 earlier today it was at about four 49450 high and now it's 352 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:40,440 down to 433 O 9. So. 353 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,600 Yeah, stock took a little dump, but yeah, it'll come back. 354 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:51,240 And BYD stock went up .55%, Hyundai went up 2.21%. 355 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,520 Hyundai what's up with? You all right all right thanks 356 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,680 everybody take care of yourselves and also thank you 357 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,560 for listening. If you've been a long time 358 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:07,400 listener, I do appreciate you and I appreciate all the new 359 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,640 people here because I do this because I love it. 360 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:14,360 I have AI don't know. I said 1000 episodes yesterday. 361 00:24:14,360 --> 00:24:15,920 It feels like I have 1000 episodes. 362 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:19,400 I might have 5 or 600. I must have more than that. 363 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,080 I'll have to check that sometime and get back to you guys. 364 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,920 But it must have more than a 500 episodes of this show. 365 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,120 But love to do it and I want to keep doing it. 366 00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:31,400 So please continue to support the show. 367 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,520 If you can take one second, probably a minute of your day, 368 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,120 if you continue listening to the show and you like it, please 369 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:43,240 take a second and do a five star review for the show please. 370 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:50,000 That would be so helpful for me and it would help me continue 371 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:55,040 doing this because the more eyes we get on this and the more ears 372 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,040 we get on the show, the more I can continue doing this at A at 373 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,240 the level that I've been doing it and make it even better. 374 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:06,080 So I have I have some hardware that I would like to purchase to 375 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,400 make the show better, make a sound better and to cut out a 376 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:15,240 bunch of other like things that are wrong with the audio and 377 00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,680 takes me just like a long time to process it. 378 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:23,440 So yeah, your, your five star ratings really help. 379 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,520 Leave a comment on whatever podcast platform you're on. 380 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,320 And if you want to subscribe to the show and follow us, that 381 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,560 would be great because, you know, we could use all the 382 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,640 follows we have. Let me tell you something. 383 00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:37,600 I'm going to tell you some and tell you some details here. 384 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:39,640 I don't share this very often, but I'm going to be honest with 385 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,280 you guys because I think it's I think it's important. 386 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,560 Let's see, I have milestone markers on my Spotify, but let's 387 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:52,880 see, let's see what we got going on here. 388 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,000 And this is just Spotify for podcast is when I switched over 389 00:25:56,000 --> 00:26:00,240 how many how many views I've had or how many downloads I've had 390 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,480 in all time. OK, so and this is because of 391 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,520 you. Over 3 million. 392 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:12,360 Downloads of the show. So in that sense. 393 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960 All time let's. Do how many years has it been 394 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:21,280 all time that's doing the data right now? 395 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,680 I know it's taking a little bit. I'm not sorry about this, but I 396 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,000 want to. I want to tell you guys what's 397 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:33,160 up. But anyway, we have. 3,000,000 398 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,200 Downloads 3. Million plus. 399 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,320 Downloads of the show. And. 400 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,200 We have about. I don't know. 401 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,720 How many followers on? Spotify do we have now let. 402 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,680 Me, go back here. See what we got going on. 403 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:04,840 We have 3 million. 15,000. 652 streams and downloads, almost 404 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,360 18,000 Spotify followers and I'm just doing Spotify because 405 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:17,040 that's the one I have pulled up right now and I want to say 406 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:18,680 thank you for everybody. It's 33 million. 407 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:23,280 That's insane. Like that's crazy to me and. 408 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,160 I'm going to get. You some other stats some other 409 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,680 time, but I think you know, if we can, we can all stick 410 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,200 together here. 5 star ratings. So I started here. 411 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,200 Let's get you some other stats here. 412 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,320 What's what's that? So 2023 is when I started with 413 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:42,920 Spotify. I started working with. 414 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:48,520 Spotify here. Yeah. 415 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,920 So in that. But I've had the show since 416 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,480 2019, so it's six years old. I've been doing it for six 417 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,720 years. That's crazy, crazy, crazy, 418 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,560 crazy. So much, so much time. 419 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,400 So I've been around for six years, going to continue doing 420 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,160 it. Can't stop. 421 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,960 Won't stop, as they say. I'm still. 422 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,400 Trying to figure out. How many episodes I have? 423 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,320 Because it doesn't tell me in my stats here. 424 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:18,600 Just like look at all these episodes. 425 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:23,200 Cool, how many do I got? Doesn't tell me. 426 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:29,400 Don't tell me straight up front, but I have. 1000. 427 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:34,520 And eleven, 11101 episodes. That's where we're at now. 1100 428 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,640 and one 1101 episodes. That's. 429 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:45,200 Crazy 3,000,000 downloads 1101 episodes. 430 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,360 So thank you for that. Thank you for all your support 431 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,520 through 1101 episodes of the show. 432 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,280 That's a big deal. I didn't even realize that I was 433 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:02,840 over 1000, but I was just guessing the other day, so thank 434 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:03,760 you. I appreciate you. 435 00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,960 All right, take care of each other. 436 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440 And I used to do the regular outro because here we are. 437 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,840 Let's go, baby. Hey. 438 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000 Thank you so much. For listening today, I really do 439 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,400 appreciate your support. 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