1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:04,200 Good afternoon to everyone and morning to those of you joining 2 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:07,440 us from the West Coast. I'm Bethany Stevens, the agency 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,200 press Secretary and we're excited to have you join us this 4 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:13,680 morning for the newly sworn in administrator, Jared Isaacman's 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:18,120 first agency wide town hall. With headlines like Space 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,480 Community Celebrates, Isaacman Confirmation, and day one videos 7 00:00:21,480 --> 00:00:24,280 like that, I think it's safe to say we're all very excited he's 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,240 here. Before we begin, I want to take 9 00:00:27,240 --> 00:00:30,000 this opportunity to talk through the structure of what this time 10 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,360 will look like. Today, communication went out 11 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:36,000 internally across the agency announcing this town hall that 12 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,120 also included a link to submit questions. 13 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,440 As always, we are hoping to get to as many questions as 14 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,680 possible, but we do have some time constraints. 15 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:47,040 I ask that when you submit, whether anonymous or with your 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:50,120 name, you include your center as we are aiming to get to as many 17 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:52,440 locations as possible across the workforce. 18 00:00:53,160 --> 00:00:57,040 We also have a mic stand here at HQ and the web auditorium right 19 00:00:57,040 --> 00:00:59,440 over there where today's Town hall is taking place. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,000 If you have a question in the audience here live, please feel 21 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,560 free to go up to the microphone if it is open. 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:08,360 Otherwise, we ask that you wait in your seat rather than 23 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,360 queuing. Given that the majority of our 24 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,600 workforce sits outside of HQ, the majority of questions will 25 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:16,920 be taken online, but please don't let that discourage you 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,440 from participating here in house. 27 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:22,600 Lastly, I want to take thank everyone here at HQ for taking 28 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,600 time out of their day to welcome Administrator Isaacman yesterday 29 00:01:25,960 --> 00:01:28,800 and everyone across NASA for taking time the Friday before 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,280 Christmas to join us for this Town Hall today without further 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,320 delay, Administrator Jared Isaacman. 32 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,800 Good afternoon. I am really honored to be here 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,920 today as NASA's 15th administrator, serving under 34 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,480 President Trump's leadership and working alongside some of the 35 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,320 greatest scientific and engineering minds this nation 36 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,320 has to offer. I feel like I am living the 37 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:54,360 dream right now. This is the agency that 38 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,880 captivated me as a child, inspiring me to grow up reading 39 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,800 every book on the subject I could on all of NASA's amazing 40 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,560 accomplishments and all The Pioneers and heroes that showed 41 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,880 up to work here every day. This is the agency that has 42 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:11,760 inspired the world again and again with images from our 43 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,880 telescopes, our probes, and our Rovers. 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:17,040 This is the agency that sent astronauts to and from the moon 45 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,160 at a time when we knew so little but believed we could do the 46 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,000 impossible. So honestly, there's nowhere 47 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:27,240 else I would rather be than right here, right now, alongside 48 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,200 all of you at the most accomplished space. 49 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:32,200 Agency in the world? I understand that with any 50 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:37,000 leadership change comes some anxiety and uncertainty, but 51 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,280 between two hearings, a few podcasts, a document that 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,600 circulated a little wider than expected, there should be, there 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,840 should really be no mysteries as to how I'm thinking about 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,000 things. But more importantly, the 55 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,600 President has released the National Space Policy, and in my 56 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:53,760 view, it's one of the most significant commitments to 57 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,440 America's space program by by any administration since the 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:02:59,800 Kennedy era. It lays out a very clear vision, 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,320 provides unambiguous priorities, and sets time frames for 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,080 achievement. And as it's always been, the 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,320 honour and exceptional responsibility rightfully falls 62 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,320 on all of us here at NASA to deliver. 63 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,880 So let me outline the direction that we're going to take 64 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 together. America will lead in the 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,960 peaceful exploration of space. We will bring extreme focus to 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,240 the mission and realise our near term objectives of returning 67 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,680 American astronauts to the Moon and establishing an enduring 68 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,200 presence to unlock the scientific, economic and 69 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,680 national security potential on the lunar surface. 70 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,080 We will look for every opportunity to pull forward the 71 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Artemis program to the limits that physics and safety afford, 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,960 while increasing the flight cadence across the architecture 73 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,880 authorised in the one big beautiful bill. 74 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,320 The next most significant milestone, of course, is Artemis 75 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:51,880 2 launching on a historic mission early this coming year. 76 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,560 At the same time, we will prepare for the inevitable 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,800 return by working with our commercial and our international 78 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,280 partners to ensure they're aligned with our programmatic 79 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,800 objectives and acting with the urgency needed to deliver the 80 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:08,320 launch services, the vehicles, the suits, the habitat, surface 81 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:12,280 power and Rovers required for frequent, affordable missions to 82 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,120 the lunar environment. And our journey does not end on 83 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,480 the Moon. As directed in the National 84 00:04:18,480 --> 00:04:21,680 Space Policy, we will accelerate investments in next generation 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,880 programs that only NASA is capable of leading, including 86 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,960 nuclear, surface power and propulsion technologies that 87 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,200 will usher in the next giant leap in space exploration and 88 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,600 discovery. Now we must ignite the orbital 89 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,840 and eventual lunar economy. For more than 1/2 century, the 90 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:40,720 space economy has been terrestrially anchored in 91 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,680 launched communication and observation with world 92 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,720 governments as the primary customer. 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,520 That perpetual taxpayer dependent model won't fund the 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,120 future we've all imagined. Alongside industry and academia, 95 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,120 we must uncover the long-awaited promise of pharmaceuticals, 96 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,600 biotech on orbit, computing anything that can contribute to, 97 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,280 and perhaps someday entirely justify the cost of maintaining 98 00:05:04,280 --> 00:05:08,000 inhabited orbital outposts and generating value for in excess 99 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:09,640 of what it cost to operate in space. 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:13,480 Working with industry and academia, we will do all we can 101 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,520 to maximise the remaining life. The International Space Station 102 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,520 prioritising the highest potential science and research 103 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,000 with the aim of determining this new orbital economy. 104 00:05:22,280 --> 00:05:25,440 So in the future we will transition from one station to 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,920 many. NASA will become a force 106 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,960 multiplier for science with an immense hunger for the data and 107 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:34,880 enthusiasm to deliver the world changing headlines that only 108 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,480 NASA is capable of achieving. We will endeavour to reduce the 109 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,640 time to science and maximise the scientific value of every dollar 110 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,120 that's available now. I do not believe this is a A1 111 00:05:46,120 --> 00:05:49,440 size fits all approach. We will embrace a full menu of 112 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,520 possibilities so that includes bespoke missions to 113 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,240 extraordinary destinations and expanded clip style missions 114 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,520 that accept more risk for faster discovery. 115 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,920 Partnering with industry to gather Earth observation data 116 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:05,440 more efficiently and affordably without sacrificing continuity, 117 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,520 and lending NASA expertise and resources to enable academic 118 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,160 institutions to take on bold scientific missions. 119 00:06:12,840 --> 00:06:15,760 Some approaches may be a flavour of the way it has always been 120 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:17,960 done, and some will be a new way. 121 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,080 But in all cases we will challenge the process in every 122 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,080 way, with the goal of arriving at the desired results as 123 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,920 expeditiously and affordably as possible. 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,720 Because if NASA doesn't do it, no one else will. 125 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,280 Now, accomplishing our mission will not be easy, but at NASA it 126 00:06:34,280 --> 00:06:36,000 never was and it never should be. 127 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,120 Engineering and program management challenges are are 128 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:42,000 just part of the story. We have a great competitor that 129 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,160 is moving at absolutely impressive speeds, and it's 130 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,120 unsettling to consider the implications if we fail to 131 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:51,560 maintain our technological, scientific or economic edge in 132 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:58,960 space and the clock is running. These are fiscally challenging 133 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,600 times, and I do support the President and his goal to get 134 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,760 spending under control and bring down the national debt. 135 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Now, this is hardly NASA specific, but we as a nation 136 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,240 can't spend our way out of every problem and believe it will lead 137 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,600 to better outcomes. So I don't know where the 138 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 budgets will land, but I will always advocate passionately for 139 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,520 the agency, knowing we will make the most of every dollar 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,320 entrusted to us. And I'm not arriving with all 141 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,400 the answers. I do know this. 142 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,960 We cannot achieve our objectives by doing things the way they've 143 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,920 been done in recent years. And we know most of the NASAIG 144 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:30,320 reports would echo this sentiment. 145 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,320 So we must do all we can to minimize the bureaucratic drag 146 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,120 that can slow us down and slow down the great engineers and 147 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,360 scientists and eliminate obstacles that impede progress. 148 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,200 Flatten the organizational structure to improve information 149 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:46,080 flow and accelerate sound decision making, and push 150 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,960 responsibility down to the talent that is more than capable 151 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:52,320 of getting the job done. And when we do, we must, right? 152 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:55,720 If we recognize and reward the contributors that bring the near 153 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,760 impossible to reality. NASA must be one of the hardest, 154 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,320 most demanding places to work in this country because lives 155 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,480 depend on our work and the world is counting on our breakthroughs 156 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 and discoveries. It's why you see the NASA logo 157 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,680 anywhere you travel. I mean, people the world over 158 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,280 know that we are capable of accomplishing and the 159 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,400 expectations are rightfully very high. 160 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,760 We're not alone in the need to evolve to meet the moment. 161 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,680 Our international and commercial and commercial partners have 162 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:26,040 made commitments as well, and we must place as much pressure on 163 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:28,120 them to deliver as we do on ourselves. 164 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,360 No changes happen in a vacuum. I I plan to speak with many of 165 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,960 you, the leadership teams, the engineers, scientists, 166 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,919 astronauts, our program managers and the people in the field 167 00:08:37,919 --> 00:08:40,919 doing the work. I will visit every centre in the 168 00:08:40,919 --> 00:08:44,360 weeks ahead and engage with our international and and commercial 169 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,960 partners. I want to hear directly what is 170 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,960 broken so we can work together to fix it and where we are 171 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:51,960 excelling so we can do a lot more of it. 172 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,400 It's been a year, but we have real momentum now. 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,160 NASA has the enthusiastic interest of President Trump, the 174 00:09:01,160 --> 00:09:04,120 vice president, the cabinet. We have bipartisan congressional 175 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,080 support. We have a national space policy 176 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,120 outlining the most righteous and inspiring objectives. 177 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,600 We have the mandate. We have the talent, the 178 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:14,560 partners, and the resources to get the job done and bring 179 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:17,320 billions of people along with along with us on this journey. 180 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,120 I don't think there are many NASA employees standing next to 181 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,720 you who served during the Apollo era. 182 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:25,120 They have retired. In many cases. 183 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,840 They've passed on, leaving their extraordinary accomplishments 184 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,360 behind for us to celebrate. But now you will be the ones in 185 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:36,360 the room when we return. You will be part of the next 186 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,920 chapter of this history. And this time, when we make the 187 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,320 grand return, we stay. Thank you. 188 00:09:54,130 --> 00:09:55,930 OK. And with that, we will get right 189 00:09:55,930 --> 00:09:59,410 back into the questions that are coming, but I know that one of 190 00:09:59,410 --> 00:10:01,970 the questions that was submitted was asking what your plans are 191 00:10:01,970 --> 00:10:04,770 for your first 60 days. So you take it from here. 192 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,480 What are my plans for the 1st 60 days? 193 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,480 Well, there is an awful lot to learn. 194 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:15,960 There are volumes of materials on my desk right now to to get 195 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,200 through. But I think our, our, our major 196 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,120 priorities are overwhelmingly clear. 197 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:23,080 And it's the first part of the nationals, the president's 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,360 national space policy. We have to return to the moon. 199 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,760 We have Artemis 2. That's on deck. 200 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,680 I mean, again, just weeks away from potentially launching. 201 00:10:30,680 --> 00:10:32,760 So I think making sure we concentrate a lot of our 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,640 resources rightfully in that direction is is most 203 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,400 appropriate. But there's an awful lot to get 204 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,000 done. And and this is the agency that 205 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,880 can do it. I mean, this is an agency with a 206 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:45,240 lot of proud history taking on multiple parallel world changing 207 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:48,400 programs. So I think again, we know what 208 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:50,960 our near term responsibilities are, but I'm looking forward to 209 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,120 learning as much as I can, getting out, interacting with 210 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,440 all of you on that roadshow that I mentioned coming up and 211 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,760 getting things going. Awesome. 212 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,320 And Elizabeth Hook Rogers from NASA HQ, thank you for that 213 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:04,440 question. I will kick it to Samantha 214 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,120 Youssef from Glenn. She asked, Do you have any 215 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,080 insight into when the current hiring freeze may be lifted and 216 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,440 whether candidates who are already selected and given start 217 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,040 dates will need to recompete for their positions? 218 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:20,360 Well, it's a good question. I think somewhere around 28 219 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,920 hours or so, not even on the job. 220 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,000 So there are certain things that I still need to chase down. 221 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,560 But as I said many times through, through 2 hearings, in 222 00:11:27,560 --> 00:11:30,200 order to do the near impossible, it's going to take the 223 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,760 contributions of the best and brightest from across the 224 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,120 nation. I, I have no doubt there are 225 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,760 areas within the agency where we're going to have to hire. 226 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,400 So I look forward to getting more familiar with where we 227 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:46,440 stand on some of these policies. Great Fernando de la Pena Yaka 228 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,480 from Johnson said NASA FOD presented at MCCA 229 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,440 state-of-the-art holographic AI tech from IEXA. 230 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Will NASA incorporate AI and holography in the future? 231 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,320 Definitely butchered that word. Well, that I mean, certainly 232 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,920 sounds like the right direction. I mean, almost every good space 233 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,720 sci-fi movie I've seen incorporated both AI and 234 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,320 holographs. So that's good. 235 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,880 I, and I mean in all seriousness, we, we absolutely 236 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,120 have to. So I am not familiar with where 237 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:17,680 we are at at this present moment. 238 00:12:17,680 --> 00:12:23,040 I am familiar with the pages and pages of policies, regulation, 239 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,360 documentary documentation, history this agency possesses. 240 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,560 And it would certainly seem to make sense to me. 241 00:12:28,560 --> 00:12:30,960 That is a good first step. We could try and incorporate 242 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,280 some of that and AI might make it easier to find some of the 243 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:35,440 materials we need. But look, if we think about 244 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:38,800 where are, where the destinations will eventually 245 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,280 take us, we're going to, I mean, we're going to eventually, 246 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,680 whether it's Mars and beyond, just transmission delays alone 247 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:46,240 are going to take us, you know, or at least evolve the current, 248 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,960 you know, Mission Control concept where we're going to 249 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,920 have to rely on more on board decision making where I could 250 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,560 see AI playing a role, what AI mean. 251 00:12:55,560 --> 00:12:57,840 Fun thing to imagine at some point in the near future. 252 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,440 And also just a reminder, we do have a mic in the room if 253 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,760 anybody wants to get up and ask a question. 254 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,760 Betty Lynn Mason from Marshall asks, do you see new technology 255 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,480 development more by hands on engineering work here at NASA or 256 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,040 through NASA consulting with industry and why? 257 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,440 I think it's both and I'm, I'm sure many of you, well, I don't 258 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,600 know, you probably have a lot of better things to do than hear 259 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,400 what I'm saying to Congress all the time. 260 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,640 But I, I mean, this question comes up a lot of like it, it's 261 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,400 almost goes to the, the relevancy of the agency. 262 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,440 Like why, why do we need a NASA? And we have all these great 263 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,680 commercial companies, you know, doing all these things. 264 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:39,680 It's like, wait a second, you know, let's go back to the 1960s 265 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,960 here during the space race where we did the near impossible. 266 00:13:41,960 --> 00:13:45,080 We worked alongside industry. I mean, we had partners. 267 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,040 You have Boeing and McDonnell Douglas and Northrop back in the 268 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,040 1960s. And those names are still US 269 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,080 today. And certainly there are some new 270 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 names out there. I do think it's NASA's job to to 271 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,400 focus on on the near impossible. And we figure those things out. 272 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,440 We can hand them off to some of our industry partners where we 273 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,040 can let you know, innovation take off and the competitive 274 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,960 forces drive down costs. And we just recalibrate next. 275 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,800 So look, it's going to be both the national space policy, 276 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:13,360 something was spoken about extensively talks a lot about 277 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,840 investments in nuclear programs, nuclear surface power, nuclear 278 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:18,640 propulsion. Now, there is an emerging 279 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:21,040 industry that's capable of supporting that, but I think a 280 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:23,640 lot of that is what NASA should be taking on. 281 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,800 And then there's certainly areas where we pioneered technology 282 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,760 decades ago where we're very comfortable working alongside 283 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,480 our commercial partners to get the job done. 284 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:33,400 I don't see that balance ever changing. 285 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,560 And especially, especially on the science side, back to, you 286 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:40,240 know, my commentary before if NASA isn't out there trying to 287 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,440 unlock the secrets of the universe, no one else is going 288 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:46,440 to do it. Rita, Sam Bruna from Goddard 289 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,360 said. Welcome Administrator Isaacman. 290 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:50,880 I was gratified to hear you say that one of the goals of your 291 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:54,440 administration is to make NASA a force multiplier for science. 292 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,400 I'm wondering what the word science really means. 293 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Is it only the science that serves directly Moon to Mars, 294 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:04,280 space weather, robotics, propulsion science, surface 295 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,320 exploration, and more? Or more generally all science we 296 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,440 currently do at the agency, even if not directly linked to Moon 297 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,920 to Mars? For example, is traditional 298 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,640 astrophysics studying the universe included of? 299 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,320 Course, I mean I, I mean I think like fundamentally, what are 300 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:23,200 what are we here to do? We're here to answer the 301 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:26,160 questions that, you know, went through every kids mind when 302 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,480 they looked up at the the stars at night and wondered what's out 303 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:31,080 there and why it's the way it is. 304 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,840 I mean, so that we play that role across all of our mission 305 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,720 directorates. So of course, human space 306 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,440 exploration is a major component to that, but as is our entire 307 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,280 science program and our technology development 308 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:48,400 initiatives, I mean, we're focused in all the right places 309 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,840 to try and solve the mysteries in Air and Space. 310 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,880 Jin Jung Wang Lee from Johnson says if China can air fry BBQ 311 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,160 chicken on Tiangong, should we reevaluate rigid and somewhat 312 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,560 outdated NASA requirements and use modern tech to turn survival 313 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,040 into thriving to attract commercial investment? 314 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,600 This was an air fryer I'd called Pizza in Space. 315 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:16,480 That's cool. That's an upgrade on that. 316 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,120 Yeah. I, I look, I as I meant, as I 317 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:22,480 alluded to in some of my remarks before I, I think it's 318 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:25,320 absolutely healthy for any organization to constantly 319 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,720 challenge the way they do things knowing that the what we've done 320 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,560 in the past is not necessarily the right approach to get to the 321 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,520 future. I mean we, we are on the brink 322 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,680 of a a massive transformation right now. 323 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,240 You can see all the various commercial providers building 324 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:42,440 their own launch vehicles with rapid reusability. 325 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,720 And we, this can be a light switch type moment where you 326 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:50,480 have numerous commercial and NASA missions being operated 327 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,160 near simultaneously. We could have multiple space 328 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,760 stations. We are certainly going to build 329 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,560 a lunar base in line with the president's direction and look 330 00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,440 even further out outward. Like we're going to have to 331 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,680 challenge some of these things that might have been rigid in 332 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,960 the past during, you know, less mature times. 333 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:12,040 So I, I know air fryers is just the example, but I imagine there 334 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,760 are many things that we have historically maybe not 335 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:19,440 prioritized or thought were of a greater risk that we should be 336 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,400 re evaluating. I think that goes across the 337 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,720 entire portfolio of our responsibilities at NASA. 338 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,800 And I will hand the mic over for the question here in house. 339 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:30,120 Thank you. Kelly fast acting planet. 340 00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:33,040 Excuse me, Kelly fast acting planetary defense officer. 341 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,400 And I was one of those astronomer kids looking at the 342 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:39,200 skies, but also being an astronomer also here, having to 343 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,960 use infrastructure that perhaps is aging. 344 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:48,280 It's not as flashy to work on budget software and procurement 345 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:52,200 software and awards management software. 346 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,720 And I know that often we have to throw people at such situations 347 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:00,360 because it's certainly flashier to do the next cool thing. 348 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,600 But do you have any thoughts on how we can maybe handle things 349 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:07,200 that are under the surface on which we rely in order to do the 350 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,480 impossible? Possible that we're trying to do 351 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:15,320 here. Well, I mean from an 352 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,800 infrastructure perspective and I guess including the, you know, a 353 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,880 lot of the core systems that allow the agency to function. 354 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,720 I do think we we should be applying a lot of the brain 355 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,880 power that is available to us at this agency to try and find ways 356 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,000 to do it better, to free up resources to work on those 357 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:34,520 exciting things. I mean, I hope everyone kind of 358 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,720 almost regardless of their function, is trying to find a 359 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:41,000 way to do whatever their current job is better, whether there's 360 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,560 means to automate it or software to alleviate some of their 361 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,600 responsibilities so they can repurpose their time on the more 362 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,840 exciting things to work on. But yeah, I, I have to imagine 363 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,960 that if there's any agency in the in the United States 364 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,960 government that can find a way to do some of those 365 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:57,600 responsibilities a little bit better to free up resources, we 366 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,000 should be capable of doing it. Thank you, I love your area of 367 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:04,200 responsibility too. I think that's one we should be 368 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,960 keep a good eye on. We don't want to go the way the 369 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:12,360 dinosaurs. Lisa Link from Goddard says, can 370 00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:15,400 you speak to the reorganization discussed in the Project Athena 371 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,600 document and what impacts we can expect? 372 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,960 Sure. I mean it look at that as I 373 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,680 think a lot of people probably know was formulated a time 374 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,960 earlier this year where I mean, I was a nominee. 375 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,200 So I can only, you know, see what's being reported. 376 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,800 But there was a lot of various reorganization plans that seemed 377 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,200 to be being considered at the time. 378 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:39,560 A lot of phase one, phase two. I don't know how much everyone 379 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:41,720 was tracking that. But from my perspective, having, 380 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:47,000 you know, worked on a number of large organization reorg type 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,960 efforts, it's better to do a single data informed plan rather 382 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:55,280 than anything that involves, you know, needless pain over a 383 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,320 period of time. Now that's 5-6 months ago. 384 00:19:58,360 --> 00:20:01,360 A lot has happened since then. As I mentioned before in my 385 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:05,760 remarks, my objective, I mean, is to get up to speed as quickly 386 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:08,000 as possible. Now, there are some things that 387 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,240 I did just, you know, more or less communicate in my 388 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:12,880 statement, like I do believe in flat organization structures. 389 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,160 I like to know things as quickly as we possibly can, increase 390 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 the, you know, decision velocity the greatest extent possible, 391 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,880 push responsibilities down. I think you. 392 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,680 And you look at that, I mean, we, we had a lot of young 393 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:27,200 engineers and scientists and researchers that took us to the 394 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,320 moon and back. I like pushing responsibilities 395 00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,200 down as great as possible that these don't necessarily involve, 396 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,760 you know, major changes to personnel or, or dramatic 397 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,360 reorganizations, but they're direction, you know, directions 398 00:20:38,360 --> 00:20:39,960 I think we should be looking to move into. 399 00:20:40,360 --> 00:20:42,840 And at the right time, we have the right information, drawing 400 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,200 on hopefully a lot of conversations from people in 401 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,640 this room. You asked earlier about the 1st 402 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,320 60 days, but Mark Serna from Kennedy Space Center says what 403 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,080 organizational or investment decisions will you prioritize in 404 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,360 the next 12 to 18 months to ensure Artemis stays on 405 00:20:58,360 --> 00:21:03,600 schedule? Yeah, well, I think there's, 406 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,960 there's already quite a few bonders up there with some high 407 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:08,520 priority decisions I think that need to be made. 408 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,560 But this is what I'm, this is really this journey began today. 409 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,120 I mean, we've had a number of meetings. 410 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,400 We're asking to gather as much data as possible. 411 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:20,360 So we have situational good situational awareness, awareness 412 00:21:20,360 --> 00:21:23,560 to make the right decisions. I mean, you know, conceptually 413 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,280 we should be doing everything we can, as I mentioned, to the 414 00:21:26,280 --> 00:21:30,080 limits of physics and safety of Ford to pull in every Artemis 415 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,000 mission. I mean, we want to have as many 416 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,760 opportunities to achieve our objectives before our great 417 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:37,320 rival as possible. So I'll be interested in 418 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,400 information that helps us beyond the Artemis 2 time frame. 419 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,240 And as I also said in my remarks, look, I think we should 420 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,040 be feeling a lot of the pressure to deliver. 421 00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:49,040 This is what this agency is, is capable of doing. 422 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,720 It's what we've done throughout, throughout our history. 423 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,600 The pressure also exists on our international partners, our 424 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,960 commercial partners as well to ensure they deliver. 425 00:21:57,360 --> 00:22:00,360 And I'm we'll be for sure having conversations across the board. 426 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,920 Reminder that the microphone in the room is open? 427 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:10,440 Felicia Stevens from Marshall asks, with NASA's organizational 428 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,120 structure being divided by 10 centers, do you have any 429 00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:17,960 reorganizational plans for how to fully integrate the agency as 430 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,680 one NASA to help us operate more efficiently? 431 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,280 I would say I certainly have some thoughts, but those are, 432 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,000 those are, you know, those are thoughts that you would get 433 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,480 based on information external to the agency. 434 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,800 I think my goal is to use, you know, is to get up to speed as 435 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,400 quickly as I can and talk to a lot of the right folks that are 436 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,080 in this room and across our various centers to ensure that 437 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,320 we have a well informed plan. You know, generally speaking, I 438 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,200 do think every, you know, you want to make sure that all of 439 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,120 the contributors, so whether that's the centers and our our 440 00:22:52,120 --> 00:22:55,680 various partners bubble up to the major mission objectives 441 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,360 that we're trying to accomplish. Like you, we want to find every 442 00:22:58,360 --> 00:23:02,000 opportunity, you know, to ensure information transfers 443 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,520 efficiently so we can make faster decisions. 444 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,840 But yes, everything is just, you know, purely conceptual at this 445 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,000 point. Like my job for, you know, the 446 00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:15,360 the foreseeable future, immediate future is to gather as 447 00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,840 much information as I can with from the right people to make 448 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:19,120 sure we're making the right decisions. 449 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,840 Craig Hunter from Langley asks the loss of telework and remote 450 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,040 work flexibility have hurt productivity, work and family 451 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,960 life balance and morale. How do you plan to address those 452 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:38,400 issues? I, I, I certainly understand the 453 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,320 question. I would just say that at least 454 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:45,400 my experience is that when you're trying to do, you know, 455 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,120 kind of big, bold, very challenging endeavors, having 456 00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:52,640 all the right minds in the right location is just works better. 457 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,400 Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't scenarios where 458 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,800 exceptions make sense. As I've said before, it does 459 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,440 take, you know, the contributions of the best and 460 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,040 brightest from across the nation in order to achieve the, the 461 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,520 near impossible. But generally, I, I do think 462 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,480 it's pretty important to bring all the, all the right people 463 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,640 together under the same roof in order to work with the, you 464 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,280 know, the speed, the urgency that's necessary for what we're 465 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,800 trying to accomplish. Roger Weiss from Johnson says 466 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,920 huge congratulations on your confirmation. 467 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,760 Might you become the 1st in office Administrator in Oh my 468 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,840 goodness Administrator to venture on a space mission. 469 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,560 That that is not crossed my mind. 470 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,840 I think we have an awful lot that needs to be accomplished, 471 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:45,240 you know, over the next three years. 472 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,280 The priority list is near endless. 473 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,320 The president has placed enormous importance on it. 474 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,000 I mean, my first day on the job and you're in the Oval Office, 475 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,440 the president signs a national space policy. 476 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:01,520 I mean, I think that signifies the, you know, it certainly 477 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,800 reinforces the importance this administration is putting on 478 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,360 achieving these objectives as quickly as we possibly can. 479 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:12,360 I hardly imagine I'll find time for, you know, any of these 480 00:25:12,360 --> 00:25:13,800 other activities. So thank you. 481 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Tara Halt from Headquarters says many projects are significantly 482 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,400 delayed due to poor contractor performance. 483 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:28,600 The OIG has noted that NASA has limited leverage to incentivize 484 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:32,040 improved contractor performance. How do you plan to address this? 485 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,400 I, I'm, I again, maybe it's just being hours on the job, but I am 486 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,720 not aware of any limitations in ensuring that there would be or, 487 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,680 or roadblocks in place to prevent us from holding our 488 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,160 partners accountable. So look, I, I said this in my 489 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,880 first hearing like they work for us, not the other way around. 490 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,000 I think that's how it was done in the 1960s. 491 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,160 NASA should be incredibly demanding to our various 492 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,080 partners and ensuring they can deliver the capabilities we were 493 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,440 promised on time, on budget, so we can deliver on our world 494 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,200 changing objectives. And I think there's certainly 495 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,720 things we can probably do here as an agency. 496 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,160 I'm, I'm very interested in what, you know, what knobs we 497 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,240 can turn, you know, in order to get to the, you know, to the 498 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:19,840 correct outcome faster. So we'll, we'll certainly look 499 00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,040 within when there's opportunities to do so. 500 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,800 But as I said before, we're going to put as much pressure on 501 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,400 on our partners, international and commercial, as we do on 502 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:33,560 ourselves. Rich Walls from Langley says we 503 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,640 hear next to nothing about aeronautics. 504 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760 What are your thoughts on the future of the first A in NASA? 505 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:43,400 I mean, this is an area that I'm incredibly passionate about. 506 00:26:45,120 --> 00:26:47,640 So I mean, look, I love the history of the aeronautics 507 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,360 program at NASA. And I think it's, I think it's 508 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,040 important that we try and get back to that as quickly as we 509 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:55,760 can. And what I mean by that is lots 510 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,240 of exciting explains. Look, this is an environment for 511 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:03,160 us to learn, but it's also another tool for inspiration. 512 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,760 Rocket launches are great for inspiration. 513 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Astronauts certainly landing on the moon is great for 514 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,040 inspiration. But NASA's portfolio in 515 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:14,920 aeronautics should be out there, too. 516 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:18,040 I mean, it's another opportunity to get people to look up and 517 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,920 imagine what's possible. I love aeronautics. 518 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,960 I'd love to see an expanded X-plane portfolio. 519 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:28,520 I'd love to see us collaborating in ways with other agencies as 520 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,920 we did in the past. I mean, you know, the, the, the 521 00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:35,040 thrust vectoring technology on the F22 can trace it's roots 522 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,160 back to NASA fly by wire technology, wing designs. 523 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520 I'd love to see us pushing the boundaries and radical airframe 524 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,840 designs and, and propulsion. So it's certainly an area that 525 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,280 I'm passionate about. Someone else has braved the mic 526 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,920 in the room, so I will toss it over to you. 527 00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:54,120 Wonderful. Hello, Sir, I'm John Truss, NASA 528 00:27:54,120 --> 00:27:56,120 Headquarters Mission Support Directorate. 529 00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,800 I was wondering, I'm sure you're familiar with NASA's footprint 530 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,080 across the United States. I was wondering if you have any 531 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,080 general ideas of the infrastructure, what you want to 532 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,360 do? Any immediate plans for growing, 533 00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:10,480 shrinking, or, you know, retiring buildings? 534 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,080 Yeah, I mean, it's a great question. 535 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,880 This is an area I, I'm eager to receive more information on. 536 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:22,160 I would like I, I think that the worst outcome right, is the 537 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,040 limited resources that we have available to us investing it in 538 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,280 infrastructure capabilities that don't have demand and come at 539 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,640 the expense of infrastructure that needs to be modernized, 540 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,560 maintained so we can increase throughput for it or 541 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,880 infrastructure we should be building to better account for 542 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,960 the future direction we're seeing in Air and Space. 543 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,160 So yeah, this is certainly something I want to get my arms 544 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,760 around. If we have infrastructure that 545 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,840 is not required anymore, it's not needed for us. 546 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,560 Like it would be a travesty to have money continue to go into 547 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:57,480 that when we we know there are so many exciting areas we need 548 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:58,840 to be prioritizing our resources. 549 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,320 So I'd love to make sure we're taking a good, you know, 550 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,560 holistic, you know, agency wide view of this and concentrating 551 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,200 our firepower on the on the real needle movers, which is 552 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,480 generally a statement I think for everything we're going to 553 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,480 try and accomplish at the agency with the resources afford to us 554 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:19,200 by Congress. Charles Wilder from Stennis says 555 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,320 how will you help streamline NASA's processes to enable 556 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,280 faster, cheaper missions without compromising safety or quality? 557 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,320 It's a good question. Look, I I think generally doing 558 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,760 things differently is not a there is no magic wand on this 559 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480 kind of things like this is a lot of littles that happens over 560 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,360 time where you can, you know, shift directions. 561 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,080 But I will say, look, it's the the in terms of the safety card. 562 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:47,240 We, we have to, we have to, you know, separate out human Space 563 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,520 Flight missions where we will never take needless risk. 564 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,880 We will do everything we possibly can to protect the 565 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,760 lives of our, our crews from other missions. 566 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,680 You know, I love, you know, the flagship missions that we have 567 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,280 in the science portfolio. Like I, I just want to see more 568 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,240 of them as everybody does. Like, you know, it'd be great if 569 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400 we were launching flagship missions with even a greater 570 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,520 cadence. And some of those, you know, I 571 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,800 mean, if definitionally you're going to spend a billion dollars 572 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,480 on them, you want them to work and get them right. 573 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,480 There are other categories that are already, you know, already 574 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,640 exist within the the science portfolio or maybe we can 575 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,760 challenge some of our approach on these things similar to clips 576 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,760 where, you know, we'll have some successes and we'll have some 577 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,760 failures and we should do it eyes wide open and accept that, 578 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,320 you know, over time, you know, that that curve should improve 579 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520 and we should get better outcomes and we will have helped 580 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,800 industry or academia develop capabilities to launch 581 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,720 additional missions. That's how we become that force 582 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:44,920 multiplier. So can't be 1, you know, like 583 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,280 again, as I mentioned in my remarks and one-size-fits-all in 584 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,440 these things. And we have a question submitted 585 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,040 from out in California from Fidel Vasquez at JPL. 586 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,280 He says welcome. And how will JPL fit into NASA's 587 00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,400 plans? I think JPL is, is one of our 588 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,640 great science centers. So from my perspective, I look 589 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:09,000 at it kind of similar to every other center within, you know, 590 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:14,040 within the agency on how can we increase the scientific value of 591 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,040 every dollar? How can we increase the output 592 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,040 or get to the desired objectives faster. 593 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920 So JPL has built some extraordinary hardware. 594 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,680 I think pretty much, you know, I think pretty much every hardware 595 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,960 that we've landed on Mars, somebody I know will Fact Check 596 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,040 me on this probably originated from JPL. 597 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040 I'm good. OK, my memory was correct on 598 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,240 that. So how do we get more of it? 599 00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,800 I mean we, we, you know that that would be a question I would 600 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,600 ask out there is, is there any, any knobs again that we could be 601 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,880 turning to increase the output So we can you know, get after 602 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720 the science that much faster. JPL is going to play a huge role 603 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,520 in that. Daniel Hoffbar from Langley says 604 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,120 what is the best way to provide suggestions to improve NASA 605 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:57,080 going forward? That's a great, that's a great 606 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,480 question. So something I was, I, I, I had 607 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,360 to look into this, but I recalled earlier in the year 608 00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,400 that we had, you know, there was a inbox established for whether, 609 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,960 you know, anonymous suggestions or otherwise on areas for 610 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,360 improvement and not really sure what came of it. 611 00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:18,880 And if it, if it no longer exists or it does, we're 612 00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,440 definitely going to reinvigorate it or bring greater attention to 613 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,680 it. Because I would love to have 614 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,280 inputs from many on ways we could be doing things better, 615 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,040 you know, with the resources available. 616 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,360 But in addition, you know, plan to get out in the field. 617 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,560 And I, I can tell everybody now and can, you can consider a 618 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,640 direction on this, like when I do come and visit anyone, please 619 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,240 know, no, no red carpet or dog and pony show. 620 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,160 I am, I am there to, to learn about everything that's going 621 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,080 right. So we can increase it and do 622 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920 more of it and where their problems are so we can try and 623 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,920 make it better. And that's not going to be those 624 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:55,680 interactions will not be limited to leadership levels. 625 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,720 I plan to have as many conversations. 626 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,440 I can't recognize. I mean, we do have thousands of 627 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,000 people, but I am very interested. 628 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:06,080 I'm not going to formulate my positions on things in a vacuum. 629 00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:11,080 Angela Bartolomino from Goddard asks how will you address the 630 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,000 loss of personnel through the DRP? 631 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,440 I mean, as I, I've said, you know, many times, I think for us 632 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,880 to do what we're supposed to be doing, you know, which is 633 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,720 achieving the near impossible, it's going to take the best and 634 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:25,040 brightest from across the nation. 635 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,440 So I think it's, you know, a lot has happened this year. 636 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640 So this is something I need to get my arms around and I'm 637 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,720 hoping to be able to do that through various leadership 638 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280 discussions. But I could certainly see a 639 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:40,960 world where in order to achieve our our important objectives, we 640 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,400 do need to do some hiring. So that is something that I'll 641 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:49,480 need to get my arms run. Jeff Brubaker from Johnson asks, 642 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,760 do you have any examples to share with us of using 643 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,120 blockchain technologies to ensure integrity of safety 644 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,240 critical data like inspection reports? 645 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:04,080 Do I have any examples? Well, I mean, I I do think there 646 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,280 is a lot of utility in blockchain technology. 647 00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:13,040 I don't know of any uses to date inside the agency or any 648 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,760 immediate problems we're gonna attempt to solve with it, but 649 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,400 I'm open minded. This is just a reminder that we 650 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,280 are grabbing these questions live and the link is open if you 651 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,040 would like to submit any questions. 652 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,880 Peter Zah from Johnson asks, What is your strategy to promote 653 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040 space travel and space exploration interests across 654 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:33,880 America and partnering countries? 655 00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:37,400 That's it. That's a great question. 656 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,520 So, and a lot of people have raised it in some form or 657 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,480 another, right? I mean, the space race was a 658 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,600 real thing in the 1960s and everybody followed it quite 659 00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,159 closely. It was also at a time when, you 660 00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:53,159 know, there were three TV networks and there was no 661 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:56,520 Netflix and such. So there's a lot or Instagram or 662 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,200 any of the other reels that capture people's attention, I 663 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,840 guess is there's a lot of things to occupy people's time. 664 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:05,040 And that's unfortunate because we're, we're about to do some, 665 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,160 some pretty impressive and cool things. 666 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,040 So it, it is an area that I, well, I fully intend to speak 667 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,800 with our, our comps team about to try and focus. 668 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,320 I mean, one area I've, you know, said it before is I'd love to 669 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,120 see us focus a lot on, on our quality of our content. 670 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:27,000 You know, not I do believe in the past, there's been a a lot 671 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,200 of quantity that's been shared, but we want to put out the 672 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,080 absolute best stuff that's going to captivate people's interest 673 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,640 and then almost back to, you know, what else do we need to 674 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,120 do? We this goes back to looking for 675 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,480 every opportunity to pull forward Artemis schedule into 676 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,480 the limits possible alongside all of our other missions is 677 00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:48,200 that you want to get the the world's interest is going to be 678 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,240 there on Artemis 2. There's no question about it. 679 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:54,280 But you know, a lot of time can can transpire between Artemis 2 680 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,720 and Artemis 3. And that's like waiting a very 681 00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:00,200 long time for the next season to come out right is we got to make 682 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:03,760 sure we're continuing to put that really engaging content out 683 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,520 there to maintain people's interest in what is something 684 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,280 extraordinary. It is I've said it many times, 685 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:09,880 this is greatest adventure in human history. 686 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,360 People should be following it very closely. 687 00:36:11,720 --> 00:36:13,560 We'll do everything we can to make sure they do. 688 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,480 Jade Zeros from Kennedy says. And your time preparing for your 689 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,360 new role, Is there anything you've changed your mind about 690 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,800 pursuing as administrator? That is a great question. 691 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:30,120 I just I need to think about. It was a long time in between 692 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:35,000 the 1st and 2nd stint here and I tried to find as many 693 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,600 entertaining and distracting things to occupy my time in 694 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:42,480 between. Yeah, I, I am sure it is. 695 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520 You know, it is an endless list really, right. 696 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:52,920 You know, you there is a lot that has transpired in the, you 697 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,800 know, over the last six months. But I'd say probably look, this 698 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,520 is it's not it's not necessarily what's changed for me, but what 699 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:04,840 has me so energized right now. Is this complete, you know, 700 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,360 administrative administration almost whole of government 701 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,320 support for what we're trying to accomplish here at NASA. 702 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:16,080 And you know, again, you know, I, the president releases a 703 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:19,160 national space policy on on on day one in the job. 704 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,840 I probably spoke with him at least four or five times about 705 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,800 space priorities prior to being renominated for the, the, the 706 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,320 job. I've spoken to him several times 707 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,400 since and the enthusiasm, the excitement from human Space 708 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,440 Flight to we were discussing robotic Mars missions like these 709 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:37,640 are things that are all very exciting. 710 00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:40,960 But it doesn't stop there. The vice president, you know, 711 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,280 the leadership across the White House, obviously you've seen how 712 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,280 much Congress and got engaged across 2 hearings, both sides of 713 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,880 the aisle excited and fighting for the agency. 714 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,880 So from my perspective, sure, I'm, I'm sure a lot has evolved 715 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,360 in my thinking over that over that time period right now. 716 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:58,800 But what's I think most encouraging right now is how the 717 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,840 entire United States government is getting behind this agency 718 00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:03,800 and what we're going to need to, what we're going to need to 719 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,640 accomplish in the years ahead. That's pretty, pretty exciting. 720 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:12,720 David Reed from Marshall says Administrator Isaacman welcome. 721 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,960 How do you see NASA working with other agencies such as Space 722 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:21,760 Command in IST and others to leverage shared capabilities to 723 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,480 develop the space infrastructure needed for ensuring we build the 724 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,440 future in space? It's, you know, that's a really 725 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,160 great, it's a great question. It comes back I think to what to 726 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480 the National Space policy yesterday, which was clearly, 727 00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,920 you know covered more than just NASA's responsibility in space 728 00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,360 and where to come from an incredibly capable Office of 729 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,920 Science, Technology and Policy director Kratzios and the team 730 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,520 he's assembled over there, which many came from NASA are really 731 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:54,360 brilliant and they have the the top level picture of what we're 732 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:58,400 looking to do here at NASA. What DOE is working on what Dow 733 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,760 is working on so that we can be efficient with our resources. 734 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,360 Again, back to the realities are we, we are in a fiscally 735 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:07,040 constrained environment. So hey, let's, it's not build 4 736 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,440 different, you know, bespoke nuclear reactors across four 737 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,120 different programs. If there's some commonality 738 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:13,560 here, we can be smarter, more efficient and give by the way, 739 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000 the programs a greater chance of success, you know, when we're 740 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,600 all aligned around it and sharing some resources towards 741 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,320 it. So I think that this is not 742 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,680 something that this is not broken, this is actually working 743 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,760 and we need to lean into it really well. 744 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,800 I think again, Director Kratzios and OSTP has a great vision 745 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,280 here. They're looking at the complete 746 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,080 picture across agencies that have some of this overlap so we 747 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,080 can be very smart and efficient with our resources. 748 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,680 Christian Maseal from Goddard asks if you could send a message 749 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:48,240 to every new mission team just starting their formulation phase 750 00:39:48,240 --> 00:39:51,240 today. What is the primary North Star 751 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,840 or priority you would want us to emphasize to them right from day 752 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,040 one? It's another good question. 753 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,400 I think that we we certainly understand what our mission is 754 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,800 and we should be working urgently. 755 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,520 Towards solving it. Never let a day go by for 756 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,600 something that can be solved today because the world is 757 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,960 waiting. I mean, you're here at NASA. 758 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,080 We have the most extraordinary mission of any, any government 759 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,920 agency out there. And you know, we have the, the 760 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,040 direction from the president, we have the resources, we have the 761 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,080 will to accomplish it. Don't let a day go by for 762 00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,120 something we can accomplish today, because the world is 763 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:36,280 waiting. Paul Goldsmith from JPL says how 764 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,280 do you see continuing support for science in NASA given the 765 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,000 pressure to deliver hardware? And I think that goes hand in 766 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,320 hand with two other questions we have from Goddard and Johnson 767 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,040 about the importance of Earth science and also how we are 768 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,280 going to continue to apply science on the International 769 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,880 Space Station. So a lot of science. 770 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,480 I think there's a lot there. I don't necessarily understand 771 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,560 the pressure to deliver hardware part, but I mean, just at least 772 00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:03,280 talk on Earth sciences and and prioritizing science and 773 00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,640 resources to space station. So, you know, with respect to 774 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,240 Earth sciences, look, there is there is bipartisan support for 775 00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:10,880 it. Maybe for, you know, different 776 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,280 reasons, but every every senator I had a chance spoke to. 777 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,000 So we obviously have implications that are, you know, 778 00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:21,440 real from a humanitarian perspective, agriculture, fires, 779 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,560 flooding. So everybody is interested in 780 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,520 the data maybe for slightly different reasons. 781 00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,400 We just want to, again, like any aspect of the agency, look to 782 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:33,320 try and get to the science as quickly and as affordably as we 783 00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:34,800 can. I think there's going to be 784 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,000 areas where you're going to have the historic Landsat mission 785 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,720 continuing to play its role. And then look, we should be 786 00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:42,880 taking advantage of constellations of satellites 787 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,200 that are, that are up there now that are continuing to be 788 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,960 produced by a lot of different commercial providers to 789 00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,560 supplement some of our data needs. 790 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,040 And if we can do that in a more affordable way and that frees 791 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:58,840 up, you know, more missions like future Dragonfly programs, 792 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:03,360 that's like who wouldn't want to lean in and embrace that The in 793 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,320 terms of high priority science and research to the space 794 00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,080 station. This is maybe goes back to the 795 00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,440 air fryer question of challenging some of our historic 796 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:11,960 approach. We need to make the most of the 797 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,520 space station while we got it. There's no question. 798 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,800 I mean, you have multiple companies right now, you know, 799 00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,600 that have set out on business model of making and operating 800 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,720 space stations. That's pretty cool, but we want 801 00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:25,400 to help create some of the demand for it. 802 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,160 We want all the pharmaceutical companies lining up and saying 803 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,120 I'll take one. We're very far from that right 804 00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:32,520 now. All the biotech companies, I 805 00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:35,360 need my space station. That's the exciting future we 806 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,920 all want to see someday. So I think we absolutely have to 807 00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,240 kind of challenge the current approach. 808 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:44,360 We need an outreach effort to all of the industries and 809 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,640 academia that think they have the potential for an orbital 810 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,000 economy breakthrough and do everything we can to prioritize 811 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,920 getting that science and research to the space station, 812 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:55,320 figure it out, and give the commercial space station 813 00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,640 companies a fighting chance. We're gonna need to depend on 814 00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,440 them, so we gotta do all we can in the years ahead on that. 815 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:04,000 And we have time for a few more questions. 816 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,800 Sorry for lumping so many in, but I did promise to get to as 817 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,280 many as possible. We have a great one from Vandana 818 00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,600 JA from Ames. Welcome. 819 00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:15,640 What advice would you give to early and mid career scientists 820 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:19,280 and engineers and NASA who want to take risks and innovate but 821 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,200 also operate within a highly risk averse environment? 822 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,440 What leadership principles from your commercial space experiment 823 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,960 experience do you think are most important for empowering NASA's 824 00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,000 workforce while maintaining mission assurance and scientific 825 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,880 rigor? I I mean, look, there's a lot 826 00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,800 there to it, but I think the general question is, you know, 827 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,960 do we do many of us do we believe that there are areas 828 00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,440 where we can take, you know, smarter risks to get to the 829 00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,080 outcome, you know, faster. And that's absolutely the 830 00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:52,240 direction we need to be going in. 831 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:55,840 What I'd say again, it's like this is not very few things in 832 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,680 an organization, you know, the size of NASA can be solved with 833 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,040 waving the magic wand. Please take more risk and that 834 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,960 be the right statement to make. It's not it's, it's got to be a 835 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,600 lot of littles. And I think, you know, if we do 836 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,800 have young engineers, scientists, researchers out 837 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,360 there that believe there is a better approach to get to the 838 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:18,080 right outcome faster and lower cost, you got to present it in 839 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,280 that in the right way to your leadership team. 840 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:25,200 Make the case of why this is, why this is the right approach. 841 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,520 And I encourage the leaders out there, supervisors, managers 842 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:31,800 that are mentoring this young talent to be receptive and open 843 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,560 minded to it. You know, think through what are 844 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,800 the real risks? Is this, is this still, I mean, 845 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,240 is this still relevant today? And have we learned, have we 846 00:44:39,240 --> 00:44:41,520 gathered more data that will allow us to rethink this? 847 00:44:41,720 --> 00:44:44,480 What is the consequence of this? Is it something that's worth 848 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,240 taking to advance the ball forward? 849 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,560 It's gonna be a lot of littles. I'm gonna certainly be looking 850 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,760 for opportunities to push down some of these philosophies from 851 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,760 the the top of the agency. But it's gonna it's, it's 852 00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,880 obviously gonna rely on a lot of the managers and leaders in the 853 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,600 field too, to be open minded and receptive and to to the young 854 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,440 talent to make the good case about why we should think, look 855 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,280 at doing things in a, a slightly different way. 856 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,800 We have a question from Diego out of Jonathan asking how you 857 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,920 will ensure a whole of government focus on human space 858 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,560 exploration and gain support. Well, I think there I mean there 859 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,360 it's a good question. I think there is a lot of 860 00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,440 support. I mean, you know the, the 861 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,680 additional funds that were authorized in the one big 862 00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,400 beautiful bill, a lot of it does concentrate on on human space 863 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:36,440 exploration. So I, I would say that that is 864 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,400 of great interest across across the government. 865 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:43,360 I know that a lot of the commercial launch providers that 866 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,560 we're working with have various human Space Flight ambitions. 867 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,880 That's not one company. It's not too good. 868 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,440 I mean, I, I might not even be 3 companies anymore. 869 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:54,880 I mean, I think several have actually announced, you know, 870 00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,040 plans for crude vehicles. This is exciting. 871 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:01,440 This is what we want now this we are the pioneer in this field. 872 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,520 We've done an awful lot to help, you know, educate and enable the 873 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,840 companies that have been successful doing this today, the 874 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,040 commercial providers. We need to continue to do that. 875 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,880 And we probably will arrive at that, that light switch moment 876 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,680 in the not too distant future where we do go from the few 877 00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,440 being able to see the world from such a such an amazing 878 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,920 perspective, not entirely like that, but to the many, which is 879 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:28,400 pretty, which is pretty exciting. 880 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,680 I think that's always kind of one of the, I don't know, 881 00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,080 underlining goals that we all have here at this agency. 882 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,400 And one more from Ryan Scott from Goddard. 883 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,760 Do you have any lessons or science outlook from Inspiration 884 00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,880 4 or Polaris Don which you plan to bring to your role? 885 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,240 Well, I, I mean, it's, I'm sure I can give a lot of thought to 886 00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:51,400 it, but I'll just go on that when we, when we were lucky 887 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,040 enough to be in that environment, we tried to 888 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,640 maximize every second that was available for scientific 889 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,560 purposes, knowing how lucky we were to be there. 890 00:46:59,920 --> 00:47:03,760 And it's really the same message back here to the agency with the 891 00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,560 resources that are provided to us. 892 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,920 We need to maximize the scientific value of every dollar 893 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,800 that's afforded to us, which means probably many cases 894 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,720 challenging the approach or at least our historic approach to 895 00:47:14,720 --> 00:47:18,520 get to a better outcome faster and and at lower cost. 896 00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,960 So yeah, I guess that would be. And with that last question, we 897 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:26,200 are at time. So thank you all for joining us 898 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,320 today and thank you to Administrator Isaac Men for your 899 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,520 time in this thoughtful conversation. 900 00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:34,040 We are looking forward to many more of these in the months and 901 00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,760 years ahead as the agency accelerates the golden age of 902 00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:39,520 innovation and exploration. Happy holidays everyone.