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Hey everybody. 
Welcome back to the show. 

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I have with me, Neil Thorn 
today, and we're going to be 

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talking about spacex's Starship 
and the latest news down at 

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Starbase, Texas. 
How you doing today? 

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Neal Goodwill? 
How are you? 

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I am doing. 
Fantastic. 

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So we had a static fire of 31 
engines at Starbase recent good 

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way of the Starship, I must have
missed that. 

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We stir seven prototype and I 
hope not so many things are 

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happening. 
It's easy to miss. 

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No, I definitely saw that. 
That was an incredible. 

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So much fire. 
Yeah it's so much power so much 

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fire that was supposed to be a 
33 engine static fire, Elon Musk

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said that they didn't fire two 
of the engines for. 

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We don't know, really know the 
reasons at this point. 

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One of them shot down. 
Right? 

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Right before they fired they 
shut that one down on purpose 

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and then he said the other one 
just didn't fire at all. 

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So there will be a an engine 
replacement at some point and 

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maybe two Yeah. 
Possibly maybe more who knows 

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like and if they shut the do you
think they shut the one down on 

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purpose to test to see what it 
would do? 

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If there was a failure before 
the flight you think is just a 

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test possibly or do you think 
that was something that they've 

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done that already? 
I don't think they do, they 

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would do that at McGregor. 
When they're testing the 

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engines, they would figure out 
how to test that sort of stuff. 

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I think that they shut it down 
because they recognize the 

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problem with it. 
That's what I'm assuming to. 

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Yeah, because there's been 
speculation that they did it on 

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purpose because there was, they 
were doing a test and I want to 

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get it out there, that there was
a possibility, a slim 

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possibility that was a chance, 
but more than likely they saw 

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something wrong with it. 
And we're like, this is going to

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mess everything up. 
Shut it down before we do this 

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static fire. 
Yeah. 

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It could have been move 
automatically to it could have 

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been a computer that shut it 
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Yep. 
Which let's face it computers 

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are going to be able to react 
much faster than humans that do 

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a problem and have a set number 
of parameters that they'll 

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operate under and there's no 
questioning. 

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So my guess is that a computer 
shut it down Yeah, that's my 

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assumption as well. 
We'll never know. 

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It's a very good thing. 
Yeah. 

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It's a very good thing. 
Very good. 

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We don't want. 
Now between is I didn't squeal 

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on asking him how many engines, 
he said that it's still had 

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enough engines to make it to 
orbit. 

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So I tweeted him. 
How many engines does it 

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actually need to get to orbit, 
has not responded yet, so we'll 

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see if that ever comes through. 
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with 31 engines, that's a 
fantastic thing because they're 

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going to be trying to fly with 
33 and if something does happen 

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to go wrong during their first 
orbital flight test, it's all 

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right they shut off an engine. 
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We saw they said was about 50% 
little lesson maybe in 50 

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percent power and they plan to 
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So if you lose three engine, 
this is ridiculous. 

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Yeah, if you lose three engines,
you go up to 92% power and they 

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compensate. 
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It's nice to have that ten 
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little bit stronger on the ones 
that aren't that are running to 

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compensate for the ones that 
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Yeah, it's a great Fail-Safe 
mechanism by SpaceX and their 

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whole engineering team over 
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They've thought of everything 
and they go to orbit all the 

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time. 
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don't realize is that the Falcon
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the Falcon heavy, which has just
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Starship goes to orbit. 
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work under. 
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Of course, these are my new 
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So 27, on three boosters, 33 

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here. 
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Just it's such a weird thing. 
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Just a few, it's amazing things 
talking about it. 

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These engines being much more 
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they're not tested as many times
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though, they do have a rigorous 
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in operation for what 10 years 
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Well, but more than that, I 
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Yeah. 
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engines parameters, and these 
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other relatively new in the span
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operating, for sure. 
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But tested but Test. 
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stuff. 
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Not tested in orbit yet so 
excited. 

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Yeah. 
And when Shotwell greenshot well

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said they're going to do the 
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for an orbital flight test. 
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there are some, I think there's 
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SpaceX know about, but we can 
speculate about some of the 

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things that will be going on and
the future. 

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And like the next couple weeks 
coming up to a possible orbital 

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flight test in one of the 
spectacle you did. 

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System. 
Yep. 

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Are we love it? 
Yeah, the giant space X is had a

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whole bunch of whole bunch of 
Tanks delivered recently. 

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So they're going to be boosting 
up, the Deluge system which is 

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of course water that they spray 
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being fired to reduce noise and 
as well as hopefully reduce a 

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little bit of damage to the PAD 
as well. 

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Yeah, and if you're not 
familiar, the smoke that you see

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coming from underneath a rocket 
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that's just vapor from the 
engines, hitting the water 

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Deluge system, so the big plumes
of smoke that are miles wide and

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huge. 
It's not smoke, it's vapor, it's

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just water hitting, super highly
charged engines, and there's 

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some burning going on as well, 
but definitely more the water 

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vapor, but it also like Neil 
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dampens the vibrations damson 
sound and since they do have 

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people living nearby, they're 
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dampening. 
The sound in the vibrations is a

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really important thing, 
especially if you're going to 

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have 90% engine thrust on 
takeoff. 

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Because what we saw so far we 
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get destroyed from this one, but
the concrete under the pad I've 

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noticed in a few images from RGV
aerial that there are. 

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There's no damage to the pad 
underneath. 

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If the Rapture engines, I was 
really surprised about or very 

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minimal damage but I saw some 
like around it. 

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Yeah, which is insane, but that 
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with other concrete around the 
pad but not directly underneath 

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which is crazy to think about 
for sure because the legs are 

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definitely scorched. 
All they're charred yeah, it 

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looks beautiful and I saw a 
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picture where it looks like to 
me. 

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It looks like a pipe has been 
ruptured. 

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Underneath the launch Mount as 
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I don't know what could have 
done that. 

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What it looks like it came from 
inside the pipe. 

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Looks like it might be an over 
pressure inside the pipe or 

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something. 
But anyway, easily replace its 

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open me open. 
That's the beauty of this launch

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Mount. 
Is that everything's out there. 

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It's a, it's easy to access easy
to change and fix. 

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Shouldn't be a problem and 
there's workers there. 24/7 

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fixing these things. 
So probably next few days, we'll

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see somebody up there with a 
giant pipe. 

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Yeah, I mean, it could be, it 
could be an illusion, may not be

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a ruptured pipe there, but it 
looks like it's ruptured to me. 

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Yeah, that's um it looks it 
either looks like a rupture or 

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it's some hold down points for 
it. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, there's definitely some 

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damn it isn't and that is your 
expect that it looks so yeah. 

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But every static fire, every 
launch attempt, they'll reduce 

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all this problems because 
they'll figure out how to get 

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around them. 
This should be good. 

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Yeah, that's why it's a test 
vehicle. 

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I like, that's what this whole 
thing is. 

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It test is a test bed for future
space flight because they're 

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once they get down here, they're
going to move everything over to

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Kennedy Space Center. 
And they'll have more launch 

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attempts over there in the 
future. 

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But right now, they're just very
focused on its orbital flight 

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test, which, like I said before,
may happen. 

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I don't know if it's going to 
happen, I don't know, Ilan said 

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in March but Gwen Kate Marsh as 
well. 

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There's Yeah, but all it always 
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somebody says, we're ready for 
March or we're ready to go. 

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It seems like maybe not, but I 
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I'm a little bit skeptical still
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Gwynn said something I was like 
okay this is a possibility now 

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because wins in charge when the 
church was she's in charge of 

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Starbucks. 
Yes the one who knows what's 

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going on? 
And she's doesn't have a track 

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record of being Ahead of the 
game. 

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She knows her dates are pretty 
set. 

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Right. 
She did. 

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It was just say it in a tweet. 
She said it had a conference 

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with a bunch of other, very 
important space, flight and 

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reporters, and other people in 
the industry. 

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So I don't think she'd be 
blowing smoke at all. 

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I think so it's also important 
to note that those comments were

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made before the static fire and 
who knows? 

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If this radek fire brought 
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they're probably still analyzing
brought something up that. 

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It's going to change that. 
We haven't heard it, but it's 

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possible that something changed.
Yeah, it's a high possibility 

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that we might not get a launch 
in March, but it's okay. 

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April May June rolls around and 
we haven't had a launch yet. 

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No, that's too light because 
they're learning every time they

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do. 
That's too far away. 

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I don't want to wait that long. 
I don't want to wait either. 

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I would love if we could get a 
March launch. 

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That would be amazing. 
I would love it. 

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But the if they do have to wait,
if they do have to go through 

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five or six more tests of the 
launch Mound or a static fires 

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or something like that, just to 
get a perfect. 

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That's completely. 
Okay in spacex's book to they 

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can do they need to do what they
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very successful first flight and
even Bill Nelson, who's the head

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of NASA said that it's great and
the static fire was a success. 

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So if you have somebody like 
Bill Nelson, in the mix saying 

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that the SpaceX is doing the 
right thing, I think they're on 

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the right course, and Bill 
Nelson sent out a tweet &, 

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that's a pretty big deal for 
this guy. 

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Yeah, for sure. 
And I think that it's important 

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that this orbital flight works 
for SpaceX. 

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I think that the more I that I 
live with this, the more I think

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about it, they want this thing 
to go across 100% flawlessly. 

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They know how to get to orbit, 
they've been to orbit hundreds 

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of times, so that's not the 
issue. 

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This is not a new company trying
to figure out orbital mechanics.

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This is an established company 
that has a new rocket. 

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And they're going to do 
everything. 

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They possibly can to get this 
thing up there. 

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Successfully without any issues.
I think that's the goal. 

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And I think anything less than 
that. 

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They're not going to be very 
happy with it. 

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Obviously something happens. 
Then it happens. 

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But I think that they're 
expecting this thing to work. 

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Yeah, and then I think that 
Gwen's expecting the next flight

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to happen in two months. 
From that point, I think that 

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they're probably expecting a 
very quick roll it. 

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Like they've got Rockets backed 
up now, right? 

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They've got 25. 
Sitting there ready to go? 

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We've got 26 about start 
testing. 

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I'm sure they've got pieces and 
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in the, in the build area to get
going as well. 

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And they're just sitting on 
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because there's nowhere to put 
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So I think that there Ready to 
ramp up. 

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They've got the booster nine 
ready to go. 

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And yeah, I think that's I think
they're ready to start this 

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program in earnest. 
I think so too. 

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And building the machine that 
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important part of the assembly 
line, that builds these Rockets.

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That's where they're at, right 
now. 

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There are the testing is a huge 
undertaking, but everything that

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gets these Rockets to the test 
pad is way more important than 

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the rocket themselves. 
Because once they get the 

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manufacturing done properly, and
they can roll these things out 

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every few weeks, man. 
Gwynn said they want to do 100 

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to 200 flights before they 
People in one of these things. 

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That's right. 
So they only have a few years 

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before Artemis 3. 
Yeah. 

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And they also want. 
Yeah. 

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They also want to meet those 
deadlines. 

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So that's only like we're 
talking 50 flights a year. 

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Yeah. 
Including this year. 

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Yeah. 
Miss see, this rocket going up 

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4.5 times a month. 
Yeah. 

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If they need to make those 
deadlines, if they want to get 

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100 flights before they put 
people, that's what they did 

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with. 
They did that with Falcon. 

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They sent cargo numerous times 
to the space station before they

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had a human. 
Rated capsule ready, then they 

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had to do, they had to do test 
flights at the capsule. 

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They had to do, test flights 
with people in them. 

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So they sent Bob and Doug to the
space station, Bob and Doug came

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back down successfully and then 
NASA was like all right Bri for 

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those guys. 
Oh my God. 

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Legends Legends. 
Like as any test pilot is really

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like unbelievable risk that they
take every day. 

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Yeah kissing their families. 
Goodbye in the morning and Who 

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knows at that point, right? 
Like unbelievable unbelievable 

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guys. 
Yeah Bob and Doug are Champs in 

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my book. 
I yeah. 

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So they're going to have to go 
through something like that to 

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like they're gonna have to send 
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which is it's a possibility that
they send some test pilots. 

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We don't know who to orbit quite
yet, Jared. 

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Isaacman maybe but more than 
likely somebody else, they'll 

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pick somebody else because 
Jarrod has a whole future with 

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SpaceX. 
That there they probably should 

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be worried about because he has 
a bunch of missions, coming up. 

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And then we have, what if they 
have to get 100 to 200, flights?

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Do they have enough? 
FAA are they cleared them for 

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that many flights from Texas? 
I thought it was only five 

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flights per, oh, they won't all 
go from Texas for sure. 

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No, there's yeah. 
If they're probably 75%, build a

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tower, built there another Tower
in Florida on 39a and then they 

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also have pad. 
Don't quote me on this pad 40 

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in, Cape where they're planning 
on probably building two more 

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Towers. 
So they'll be able to fly from 

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three different Towers in 
Florida before, you know, that 

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is ridiculous. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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So there's no guarantee they're 
going to do two towers at 40 but

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there's space for it. 
So quote-unquote space for it. 

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Yeah, there's no reason why they
couldn't. 

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And they've got the. 
They've also got the tankers 

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they were talking about as well.
Not the tankers the oil 

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platforms. 
They've been they've mothballed 

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for now, but at some point, that
could revisit that and have 

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those floating launches as well,
yeah, and the only problem that 

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I can see from Kennedy Space 
Center is the other traffic 

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because they are going to have 
to slot in times, in between 

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other launches that are going on
with either their own Falcon, 

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9's, flying, or other things 
going to the space station or 

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satellite launches or whatever 
else is it, Kennedy Space answer

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this question for me will Who 
else is launching right now? 

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Well, when's the last time we 
launched though? 

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How many contracts are they 
yeah? 

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How many contracts to La have 
right now? 

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Or is it all going to stay sex 
right now? 

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Everything SpaceX. 
Yeah so these are the cheaper. 

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Because of reusability 100%. 
I don't know that there's a lot 

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of traffic down there, they have
to worry about and they're going

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to be on the guys were talking 
about, right? 

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They learn they own the pads 
that were talking about is 

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building. 
These launch mounts are humble a

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launches from somewhere else and
even so does that the hls? 

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So yeah, and if they start 
moving, starlink launches to 

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Starships, they will really need
as many Falcon 9 launches from 

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Kennedy Space Center, that just 
switch them over to a Starship. 

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Yep. 
So do all the other nights. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
And SpaceX is Starship, can hold

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a lot more than a June 9. 
As far as star links go. 

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Absolutely will. 
They'll just continuously 

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launch. 
Yeah. 

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There's I just put the Falcon 9 
inside of several fucking times 

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inside of this and much smaller 
ones as possibility. 

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Yeah, it's a possibility. 
That would be amazing. 

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Wouldn't it may be their first 
test article inside of a 

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Starship would be a falcon 9. 
The amazing fucking Luther. 

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What with their boat 4 meters 
wide? 

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Misaki-san. 
So, theoretically they made fit 

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three at least, if not for, in 
the top, with some space then 

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spent. 
Yeah, that would be a 

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ridiculous. 
That would be obvious. 

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That would be so funny. 
No, they wouldn't do that. 

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It would be funny. 
I think that would be something 

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that Elon would do is funny, 
goof gag kind of thing. 

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Yeah, sorry launched a car. 
So, what's next step is. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
Exactly, yeah. 

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There's, there's just so much 
possibility, it Kennedy Space 

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Center, and there's so much 
possibility. 

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At Texas as well but of course 
like you were saying there's no 

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real. 
There's no real flights coming 

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out of Kennedy right now. 
Other than what I can see is I'm

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just looking at one now Taryn 
one from Cape Canaveral, there's

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Vandenberg SLC 40 Falcon 9. 
There's these are all Falcon 9's

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you have you while I Delta heavy
a cape when as I see 737 that's 

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in March. 
So yeah that's not gonna 

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Nothing's Gonna Stop SpaceX. 
This is amazing know, they've 

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proven, they can launch these 
things really quickly after each

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other, like, the last one was a 
record. 

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Was it between the last two 
launches, like five days or 

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something? 
If you only has something large,

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go ahead and launch. 
It will just set up tomorrow and

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set it up, and send it to space.
The next day, these things are 

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made for Rapid reuse ability, 
which has to equal rapid set up 

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as well. 
They're one in the same, so I 

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think that it's just a matter of
saying, okay, we'll work around 

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your schedule. 
Yeah, the only thing I can see 

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here is Falcon, 9's and Falcon 
Heavies, and that couple of Ula,

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launches and Starliner. 
Star Liners in April but yes 

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SpaceX was we spend the money 
and I'll start line is going to 

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be great to that's gonna be a 
good one but that's it. 

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Yeah SpaceX you're right. 
They have a monopoly. 

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They have some artists here, 
come a monopoly for sure. 

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Yeah. 
And you always got to start to 

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figure out how to reuse some 
stuff. 

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You know because they reuse 
something, you the way they're 

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launching. 
Exactly whether launching right 

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now is it's old technology. 
You can't get away with that 

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anymore. 
The only reason that NASA can 

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get away with it with the hls. 
Is that well there NASA? 

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Yep. 
So exactly it. 

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Sobbing program to needs to 
improve. 

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Yeah, I agree. 
I agree and not just for the 

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nose. 
I'll take it for 100 percent. 

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Agree with that, 100% agree with
that is moving forward. 

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It's like people have likened it
to Henry Ford when he built the 

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first automobile in the assembly
line and then everybody got a 

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car. 
They took a little while for 

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horses to go away. 
But then everybody had a car and

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then what do you do if you don't
have Car anymore. 

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That's like, where ula in the 
other people are at this point 

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because they're just not that. 
They're old-school. 

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Hear the horses of the 
spaceflight industry in Space X 

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is the Henry. 
Ford in The Surety at this 

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point. 
Yeah through I'm pits gone from 

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again. 
Throw these launches. 

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There's nothing. 
Yeah, it's ridiculous. 

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It's ridiculous, pretty crazy. 
If you break down I haven't done

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this map. 
I don't have it in front of me, 

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so don't ask for it, but if you 
break down the cost to get 

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something to orbit through this,
Fully reusable, 100%, reusable 

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spacecraft. 
It's not outside. 

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The realm of Realm of 
possibility that you and I could

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send something the space as far 
as Costco, right? 

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It's still going to cost several
tens of thousands of dollars, 

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but it's not millions of 
dollars, that's for sure. 

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If we want to send a brief case 
of our comic books up to space, 

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we could probably do that for 
20,000 30,000 dollars, 

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something, and that's so 
accessible. 

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Not that we want to do that or 
not that everybody in the world,

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should be able to do that. 
Because there's too much stuff 

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up there, but it is, it's so 
cheap now or will be so cheap. 

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Yeah, I'm just looking at if you
want to send, let's say 10 kg to

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orbit to low earth orbit. 
It's about Point 3 mil to get up

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there on a ride. 
Share a small Sate Rideshare, 

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but it says dedicated, how can 
our missions as low as 275? 

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Yeah, out of Falcon died. 275 
thousand dollars for a ride. 

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Share for a falcon 9. 
Basically. 

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Just raise some money somehow. 
If you have off and I'm talking 

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about, I'm just talking boats 
Starship, which is good enough 

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shape or it's going to be 
significant. 

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Be lower. 
Yeah, obviously they have to 

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fill it. 
There's gonna be so much room. 

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Yeah, it's like sending a 
sending up a container ship 

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across the ocean. 
You got to fill the container, 

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they're not going to yet but I'm
going to send a container ship 

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with half the containers that 
are half full. 

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That's not. 
It's not worth the money but if 

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they could fill a Starship with 
cargo or satellites or whatever 

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has to go up there, then yeah it
just gets cheaper as more people

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add on to it. 
Yep. 252 Marshall. 

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I think initially they'll do 
starlink just to mitigate risk 

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for other people's payloads. 
Absolutely. 

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But then other Pete wants other 
other space flight companies. 

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See or satellite companies see 
that SpaceX can successfully 

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launch star links. 
They're going to jump on board 

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pretty soon thereafter and I 
think it's going to be a game 

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changer for the spaceflight 
industry and there's gonna be so

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much money rolling in. 
That will fund at the Starship 

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and the 500, whatever launches 
they're going to do every year. 

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Yeah, knowing SpaceX. 
That's what's going to happen in

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the future. 
There's definitely people out 

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there with more imagination than
I have. 

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Personally I wonder a question, 
how much we need to get into 

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space from a business 
standpoint? 

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Like how many satellites 
different people really need up 

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there? 
I want just Starship going to 

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actually take up there. 
Obviously starlings going to 

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fill any gaps that That don't 
have that where they don't have 

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cargo ride share programs and 
stuff like that, but beyond 

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that, certainly, the ISS or 
whatever its successor be is 

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will need cargo taken up when 
you go to the moon. 

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Will need cargo for that Mars 
after that, but I wonder how 

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many satellites are actually 
needed up there that will fill 

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the Starship up constant. 
Yeah, it says, we don't see ya. 

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We don't see constant flights of
satellites every single day. 

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From Kennedy Space Center on a 
falcon 9. 

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It's once maybe twice a month, 
something like that, we're just 

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taking up a fraction of the 
weight. 

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So could you, it's what I think 
is happening at SpaceX is going 

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into business business with 
themselves here and they're 

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spending all the money building 
a Starship. 

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So they can build this darlink, 
the satellite program, the whole

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thing and then they're going to 
IPO the star league program. 

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And make money hand over fist, 
which are linked. 

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00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:29,200
So they can continue building 
Starships into starlink pays for

455
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,600
Starship, which pays for 
starlink, which B is right. 

456
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,200
The pyramid scheme is very 
telling me Starships appear, I 

457
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,700
think so. 
I think it's an MLM. 

458
00:23:36,700 --> 00:23:38,400
Yeah. 
Fixing a note. 

459
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:42,800
Next thing, you know, Elon Musk 
can be knocking on the door with

460
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,000
Tupperware. 
Yeah. 

461
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,000
And here we have a Tupperware 
party now. 

462
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:54,100
It's it seems I mean business is
Do that all the time though. 

463
00:23:54,100 --> 00:23:57,100
They've separate divisions that 
by other things from other 

464
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,800
divisions and they treat them as
two separate businesses but 

465
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,200
they're basically in business 
with themselves. 

466
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:07,000
So, it's much as I would love 
Tesla and SpaceX do that 

467
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,400
already. 
They have Tesla parts and SpaceX

468
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:11,500
rockets for sure. 
Some actuators and some 

469
00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:13,300
batteries. 
And yeah, batteries actually a 

470
00:24:13,300 --> 00:24:15,400
somebody's worked against what's
running the fins. 

471
00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:19,200
Their Tesla best, the actuators.
And berries. 

472
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,400
So, yeah, there's some gambling 
on some rockets that will be 

473
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
taken care of with some Tesla 
Parts as well in the future. 

474
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,100
Think that's what I read 
somewhere but I can't remember 

475
00:24:28,100 --> 00:24:30,400
exactly what. 
Yeah, I heard them changing over

476
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,300
from from the old system to 
Tesla Parts. 

477
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:36,500
Yeah. 
From Hydraulics to actual 

478
00:24:36,500 --> 00:24:39,100
Motors. 
Yeah it's crazy. 

479
00:24:39,300 --> 00:24:41,100
Yeah. 
If they're if I can certainly 

480
00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:45,200
see something sorry Hiram. 
I was saying, if the company is 

481
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,800
someone companies good at 
something just hire him to do it

482
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,400
if you Tesla's the best, edit 
higher Tesla, Exactly make 

483
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,600
sense. 
But works there to work here? 

484
00:24:55,300 --> 00:24:57,000
Yep. 
No reason to reinvent anything. 

485
00:24:58,500 --> 00:25:00,900
Yeah. 
So, what's next then down at 

486
00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:04,100
Starbase we have a couple road 
closures that were canceled for 

487
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,400
Monday and Tuesday of this week.
Wednesday. 

488
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:11,200
Looks like it's still on, but 
you said you mentioned ship. 26 

489
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,800
is down there. 
Yeah, we've got actually 25 on 

490
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,600
on one of the pads and one of 
the tests pads and ship 26, 

491
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:19,700
right beside it. 
It's become whole home to see to

492
00:25:19,700 --> 00:25:22,900
Starships down there now. 
But at one point, we were over 

493
00:25:22,900 --> 00:25:24,900
the moon to see two of them down
there at the same time, but 

494
00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:28,800
yeah, 25 is just Really, it's 
just waiting. 

495
00:25:29,100 --> 00:25:30,500
I think it's past most of its 
test. 

496
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:34,200
It needs to static fire a few 
more times but it's really just 

497
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000
sitting there waiting for 24 to 
get out of the way. 26 is a 

498
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,100
different vehicle. 26 is missing
a few things, right? 

499
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,600
Yeah, I know heat shield. 
No fins no heat shield, no fins.

500
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,600
And what does that say though? 
What does that mean? 

501
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,800
Is that a tanker or is it a 
test? 

502
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,900
If it's a structural test of a 
new body? 

503
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,200
It's about it's no worse things,
it's hard to know. 

504
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,500
But one thing for sure is it's 
not coming back, not in one 

505
00:25:58,500 --> 00:26:01,000
piece anyway, it doesn't have 
any take doesn't have the heat 

506
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,900
shield to get through the 
atmosphere and then it doesn't 

507
00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:07,000
have the fins to land. 
So This is this is a one-way 

508
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,300
trip for 26. 
If it actually makes it up, it 

509
00:26:09,300 --> 00:26:11,300
could just be something, they're
working on land. 

510
00:26:13,100 --> 00:26:14,900
Yeah. 
And I was thinking about that 

511
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:19,000
because I saw reports that 
there's different structure on 

512
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,400
the inside of the ship for ship 
26. 

513
00:26:22,700 --> 00:26:24,500
Oh yeah. 
Compared to 24 25. 

514
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,100
I read that. 
So I think is on NASA space, 

515
00:26:26,100 --> 00:26:31,000
flight forums and there was 
speculation that it is a test 

516
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:36,200
article for a tanker or some 
sort of Depot of some sort in to

517
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,500
everybody out there. 
Listening that doesn't know what

518
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:39,900
the depot. 
When the tanker that I'm talking

519
00:26:39,900 --> 00:26:42,700
about is SpaceX is going to have
to refuel the starship. 

520
00:26:42,900 --> 00:26:46,200
In orbit, in order to get the 
Starship to the moon, or to 

521
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,500
Mars, and they're going to have 
to have a fuel Depot. 

522
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,500
That these tankers will fly to 
these. 

523
00:26:52,500 --> 00:26:56,800
Tankers will fly to a Depot, 
push all their extra fuel into 

524
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:01,500
these Depots and then a star 
ship will dock with that and 

525
00:27:01,500 --> 00:27:06,100
then we'll go on its merry way 
after a fuels up, but this could

526
00:27:06,100 --> 00:27:10,700
be the inner workings of one of 
those kinds of ships because 

527
00:27:10,700 --> 00:27:14,200
they have to, there's no room 
for Go or anything like that. 

528
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,500
So it's just a basically, just a
tube with fuel, like a fuel 

529
00:27:17,500 --> 00:27:19,900
tube, and there's a lot of 
testing has to happen with that.

530
00:27:19,900 --> 00:27:22,400
They need to be able to move 
that fuel and space, there's no 

531
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,100
gravity in this thing in orbit. 
So I have to figure out a whole 

532
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,400
bunch of physics there to get 
this fuel to move in the right 

533
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,200
way. 
And empty itself. 

534
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:33,600
So essentially, they're going to
have when they refuel in orbit, 

535
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,600
they'll need. 
I think it was 10 launches to 

536
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,600
refuel that spacecraft in orbit 
after after that spacecraft 

537
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:44,600
launches and pushes itself into 
orbit, It'll have basically one 

538
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,900
tenth of fuel that the rocket 
needs to get to the moon or the 

539
00:27:47,908 --> 00:27:50,800
space, the other Starship that 
comes will need to get to the 

540
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,900
moon. 
It's a lot of launches. 

541
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,700
Yeah, if you think of what Gwen 
was saying they have to do, they

542
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:03,700
have to do what 100 or 200 
launches in order to make a year

543
00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:06,800
to have a crewed flight. 
Are they taught, is she talking 

544
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:12,100
about 100 fuel tanker, launches 
or Depot launches Starship crew 

545
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:14,300
launches? 
Because these, the booster could

546
00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:17,300
launch a hundred times be 
completely fine with the 

547
00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:20,200
tankers, but if they only do a 
few crew launch, it will crew 

548
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,700
capsule launches every year like
5 or 10. 

549
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:27,000
Seems ridiculous like just a few
5 or 10 or 20 years. 

550
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Yeah, that is ridiculous. 
Yeah, I think getting two orbits

551
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,100
easy, I think SpaceX has done 
that many times and you don't 

552
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:36,400
really proving anything putting 
a tanker into orbit. 

553
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:40,100
I don't think we're as you are 
definitely proving something to 

554
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:43,400
land this vehicle again and be 
consistent is where it's landing

555
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,900
and catch it with this Tower as 
they want to do. 

556
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,900
So I think that those are the 
hundred launch of. 

557
00:28:49,900 --> 00:28:51,900
They want to do it. 
When wants to do before this 

558
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,200
thing carries People. 
They want to make sure that this

559
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,500
thing can get back down to the 
ground and land safely, not 

560
00:28:58,500 --> 00:29:00,900
land. 
Get caught safely, which is 

561
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,200
still ridiculous. 
Yeah, we'll have to see it. 

562
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,900
You have to see it in action 
because if all we've seen from 

563
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:09,700
this Landing vehicle, is that it
landed, once it wasn't even a 

564
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:13,400
good Landing, you know, smg15 
landed once actually, one of the

565
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,500
other ones land in the next 
bloated, but what you don't want

566
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,500
it either. 
But we understand that they 

567
00:29:19,508 --> 00:29:21,100
don't want to, they don't want 
to land it. 

568
00:29:21,100 --> 00:29:23,300
They want to prove that they can
land it because are not going to

569
00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:25,200
land that they're going to catch
it but you still have to prove. 

570
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,100
You can catch it. 
And you still have to prove that

571
00:29:28,100 --> 00:29:31,500
the rocket can be accurate 
enough in its Landing to be, and

572
00:29:31,500 --> 00:29:33,400
I think that's got to be done 
100 times. 

573
00:29:34,500 --> 00:29:37,500
I certainly wouldn't get at 
before they prove that yeah, 

574
00:29:37,500 --> 00:29:40,000
that's weird too. 
So while we're having this 

575
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,300
conversation and I thought about
this a lot over the last two 

576
00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:48,100
weeks of how they're going to 
like, just the mindset shift 

577
00:29:48,100 --> 00:29:50,500
from everybody in a spaceflight 
industry of. 

578
00:29:50,700 --> 00:29:53,100
Oh yeah, we're just going to 
drop a capsule into the ocean 

579
00:29:53,100 --> 00:29:55,600
and have some parachutes and 
stuff to oh no. 

580
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,900
We're going to do like this kick
turn move in that hover. 

581
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:03,000
You over these arms. 
And then it's going to be fine. 

582
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:05,800
Like you just going to float 
down and you're going to land 

583
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,100
on. 
These arms are going to move you

584
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,100
to the Side Lower. 
You down. 

585
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,500
Just a little bump of giant. 
Yeah. 

586
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:13,200
Just a little quick. 
What was it? 

587
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,900
Five to ten G's or something 
like that? 

588
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:17,100
I think somebody did the math. 
It was some decent amount of 

589
00:30:17,108 --> 00:30:18,200
cheese. 
Yeah. 

590
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,800
For the flip move but it just 
blows my mind to think that 

591
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:26,700
they're going to be doing a 
hundred of those in probably not

592
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,700
the towers, probably not going 
to survive every single one of 

593
00:30:30,708 --> 00:30:33,000
those. 
Out of the beginning? 

594
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,600
No, yeah. 
I'm assuming they're going to do

595
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,400
20 or 30 of these flights with 
hover Landings in the ocean, or 

596
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,900
on some sort of Mark in the 
ocean somewhere, or in the been 

597
00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:47,200
the Gulf of Mexico or something.
I can see them doing mock UPS as

598
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:48,700
well. 
They've got a landing pad here 

599
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,900
in Texas, there in Texas, I can 
see them doing a mock up, sort 

600
00:30:52,900 --> 00:30:58,800
of a very skeleton frame system,
to a mat over the launch mode, 

601
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:01,200
Over The Landing Pad where they 
can just say, okay, yep. 

602
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,100
You are within five feet of our 
Mark or we missed it by 20 feet 

603
00:31:05,100 --> 00:31:07,100
or whatever before they even get
close to the Tower. 

604
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,300
Yeah, there's a possibility to. 
Yeah. 

605
00:31:11,300 --> 00:31:14,300
They inch closer and closer. 
I think they have to worry about

606
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:17,800
if they're starting to land at 
starting to catch. 

607
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,300
I should say at taxes is the 
environmental stuff in once they

608
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,400
if they mess up any of the 
environmental stuff the FAA 

609
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:30,100
might come after them or the the
environmental groups and stuff 

610
00:31:30,100 --> 00:31:34,200
and that may hold them up and 
four years possibly in court 

611
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800
trying to figure that stuff out.
They must have some of that 

612
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,800
stuff and I think they're going 
to figure it out. 

613
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,800
Out. 
Yeah, they must have some of 

614
00:31:41,808 --> 00:31:45,700
that stuff worked out by. 
Now, we've been sitting on this 

615
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:47,900
sort of environmental approval 
for a long time. 

616
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:49,900
They must have, it's not 
Justice. 

617
00:31:49,900 --> 00:31:52,900
Is for the next launch. 
This must be worked out through 

618
00:31:52,900 --> 00:31:54,700
for all lunches. 
Here are the parameters. 

619
00:31:54,700 --> 00:31:56,900
You need to work within and what
you need protect. 

620
00:31:56,900 --> 00:32:00,600
And I think beyond that you're 
going to be find some kind. 

621
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,900
Yeah, yeah, and if they continue
to do it like that was, that's 

622
00:32:05,900 --> 00:32:08,100
where I was going to go with 
that as if they continue to do 

623
00:32:08,100 --> 00:32:09,100
it. 
If they do it once. 

624
00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:11,800
They're like, okay, let's we 
understand like this part of the

625
00:32:11,808 --> 00:32:14,900
prototyping and part of the 
landing system, we get it. 

626
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:16,900
But if they continually do it, 
if they do it. 

627
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,900
You know, five times in the 
haven't gotten anywhere with it 

628
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,000
and there's shrapnel everywhere 
and something, the environment 

629
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,000
gets damaged, some species down 
there, get damaged, then they 

630
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,500
might have to do another call 
back to that. 

631
00:32:30,500 --> 00:32:32,800
But I think they're going to be 
okay with it. 

632
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,100
I think they'll take a very 
easily because Gwen knows the 

633
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:38,800
billions of dollars. 
That NASA spends on Starship 

634
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,600
program for the hls. 
She knows that money is 

635
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,400
important and she knows that 
getting this right is the most 

636
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,200
important thing for human space,
flight and space flight in 

637
00:32:48,208 --> 00:32:50,800
general, pretty much ever I 
think. 

638
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:53,600
Yeah, I think absolutely is the 
most one of the most important 

639
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Rockets of all time. 
So I think they're going to take

640
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,200
their time with it and get all 
those ducks in a row so to speak

641
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,300
before they do. 
First, very sort of test 

642
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:07,000
Landings at the site, but once 
they figure that out, man, it's 

643
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,900
going to be crazy and we're 
going to see 100 flights a year.

644
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:15,500
Just catch every other day, 
almost every other day if they 

645
00:33:15,500 --> 00:33:19,700
300 365 days in a year it'll be 
every 3-4 days that they do a 

646
00:33:19,700 --> 00:33:20,900
flight. 
They might even do a couple 

647
00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:23,400
flights per day. 
Pretty crazy, pretty crazy. 

648
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,100
Can't wait to see it. 
It's a dress. 

649
00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:28,500
I'm watching NASA space. 
Flights live view right now. 

650
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:32,300
There are six lifts underneath 
the The laundromat right now 

651
00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,500
that I can see. 
So they've got a lot of people 

652
00:33:36,500 --> 00:33:40,300
that yarder. 
Okay, and I know that you're 

653
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:43,900
there working on the mountain 
out the yeah, Brewster at the 

654
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:46,700
engines, one of them might be 
worth looking at the engines, 

655
00:33:46,700 --> 00:33:47,800
but the restaurant on the 
mountain. 

656
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,900
Okay, six lips. 
Wow, idiots. 

657
00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,100
One of those lifts probably 
carries two three people because

658
00:33:54,100 --> 00:33:55,900
you usually have to have a buddy
system for sure. 

659
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:58,500
I've seen people walking around 
as well on top, so there's 

660
00:33:58,500 --> 00:34:01,800
definitely more going on than 
that but it's just interesting 

661
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,900
to see. 
How much Works going on? 

662
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,500
It was only a yeah. 
It's only a few days ago what 

663
00:34:07,500 --> 00:34:09,400
four days ago since the static 
fire. 

664
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,000
So, inspections were happening. 
Probably the day after they were

665
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,800
gathering data and now they're 
taking that data and putting it 

666
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,800
into action. 
What broke what didn't break? 

667
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,800
What are we see? 
What's a liability here? 

668
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,600
What can we fix? 
Will keep a. 

669
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,199
We'll have to keep an eye on 
that pipe that you saw earlier 

670
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:29,800
see if they replace that or 
yeah. 

671
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,400
See if they make some changes to
it because yeah, it looks bro. 

672
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,400
Kin to me if it looks. 
Right. 

673
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,300
Looks pretty blown out. 
Yeah, something happened to it. 

674
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,800
Yeah, so in the next exciting 
times. 

675
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:47,000
Yeah next few days, ship 25, 
maybe something but ship 26, 

676
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,699
more than likely doing a cryo or
pressure test but we'll see what

677
00:34:50,699 --> 00:34:53,100
happens down at the pad. 
If the pad is more important 

678
00:34:53,100 --> 00:34:56,300
than the ships, then they'll 
definitely continue working on 

679
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the pad then ship 26, and then 
push these off probably till 

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next week because there's no 
other road closures this week. 

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It Yeah, I think you've hit the 
nail on the head there that 

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they're putting their resources 
into the launch Mount right now.

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And I'll get back to it. 
There's no Russian 26. 

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We get it. 
Rid of 24 and 25 before that's a

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problem. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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All right think that's pretty. 
I think we covered pretty much 

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ended. 
Is there anything else about 

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Starship that we should know 
about? 

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We did a pretty good, I think 
it's good. 

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It's a pretty good. 
Can't think of anything else 

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right now. 
I think we're I think we're 

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