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I have with me, Neil Thorn today, and we're going to be
talking about spacex's Starship and the latest news down at
Starbase, Texas. How you doing today?
Neal Goodwill? How are you?
I am doing. Fantastic.
So we had a static fire of 31 engines at Starbase recent good
way of the Starship, I must have missed that.
We stir seven prototype and I hope not so many things are
happening. It's easy to miss.
No, I definitely saw that. That was an incredible.
So much fire. Yeah it's so much power so much
fire that was supposed to be a 33 engine static fire, Elon Musk
said that they didn't fire two of the engines for.
We don't know, really know the reasons at this point.
One of them shot down. Right?
Right before they fired they shut that one down on purpose
and then he said the other one just didn't fire at all.
So there will be a an engine replacement at some point and
maybe two Yeah. Possibly maybe more who knows
like and if they shut the do you think they shut the one down on
purpose to test to see what it would do?
If there was a failure before the flight you think is just a
test possibly or do you think that was something that they've
done that already? I don't think they do, they
would do that at McGregor. When they're testing the
engines, they would figure out how to test that sort of stuff.
I think that they shut it down because they recognize the
problem with it. That's what I'm assuming to.
Yeah, because there's been speculation that they did it on
purpose because there was, they were doing a test and I want to
get it out there, that there was a possibility, a slim
possibility that was a chance, but more than likely they saw
something wrong with it. And we're like, this is going to
mess everything up. Shut it down before we do this
static fire. Yeah.
It could have been move automatically to it could have
been a computer that shut it down.
Yep. Which let's face it computers
are going to be able to react much faster than humans that do
a problem and have a set number of parameters that they'll
operate under and there's no questioning.
So my guess is that a computer shut it down Yeah, that's my
assumption as well. We'll never know.
It's a very good thing. Yeah.
It's a very good thing. Very good.
We don't want. Now between is I didn't squeal
on asking him how many engines, he said that it's still had
enough engines to make it to orbit.
So I tweeted him. How many engines does it
actually need to get to orbit, has not responded yet, so we'll
see if that ever comes through. Yeah, and if they can make it
with 31 engines, that's a fantastic thing because they're
going to be trying to fly with 33 and if something does happen
to go wrong during their first orbital flight test, it's all
right they shut off an engine. Yeah, the static fire.
We saw they said was about 50% little lesson maybe in 50
percent power and they plan to launch at about 90% power.
So if you lose three engine, this is ridiculous.
Yeah, if you lose three engines, you go up to 92% power and they
compensate. Yep.
It's nice to have that ten percent Gap where you can go a
little bit stronger on the ones that aren't that are running to
compensate for the ones that don't.
Yeah, it's a great Fail-Safe mechanism by SpaceX and their
whole engineering team over there.
They've thought of everything and they go to orbit all the
time. That's the thing that people
don't realize is that the Falcon 9 goes to orbit all the time in
the Falcon heavy, which has just a few engines, less than the
Starship goes to orbit. And so they know how to do it.
And they know they know the parameters that they need to
work under. Yeah.
Of course, these are my new engines, Falcon 9 having nine
engines. So 27, on three boosters, 33
here. Yeah, just a few less.
Just it's such a weird thing. Yeah.
Just a few, it's amazing things talking about it.
These engines being much more powerful, That's okay and and
they're not tested as many times as the Falcon 9 engines as well,
though, they do have a rigorous test schedule, Falcon, 9's been
in operation for what 10 years or so, something like that.
Well, but more than that, I think so.
Yeah. So they know the Falcon 9's
engines parameters, and these new ones, the Raptors, their
other relatively new in the span of time, that SpaceX has been
operating, for sure. Yeah.
But tested but Test. Yeah, they know how to do this
stuff. Yeah.
Not tested in orbit yet so excited.
Yeah. And when Shotwell greenshot well
said they're going to do the static fire and then get ready
for an orbital flight test. There's a bunch of stuff they
have to do. And before that, of course and
there are some, I think there's some only the engineers at
SpaceX know about, but we can speculate about some of the
things that will be going on and the future.
And like the next couple weeks coming up to a possible orbital
flight test in one of the spectacle you did.
System. Yep.
Are we love it? Yeah, the giant space X is had a
whole bunch of whole bunch of Tanks delivered recently.
So they're going to be boosting up, the Deluge system which is
of course water that they spray underneath the rocket as it's
being fired to reduce noise and as well as hopefully reduce a
little bit of damage to the PAD as well.
Yeah, and if you're not familiar, the smoke that you see
coming from underneath a rocket that's not actually smoke,
that's just vapor from the engines, hitting the water
Deluge system, so the big plumes of smoke that are miles wide and
huge. It's not smoke, it's vapor, it's
just water hitting, super highly charged engines, and there's
some burning going on as well, but definitely more the water
vapor, but it also like Neil said it Ops vibrations as well,
dampens the vibrations damson sound and since they do have
people living nearby, they're like about a mile and a half of
dampening. The sound in the vibrations is a
really important thing, especially if you're going to
have 90% engine thrust on takeoff.
Because what we saw so far we saw some little bit of concrete,
get destroyed from this one, but the concrete under the pad I've
noticed in a few images from RGV aerial that there are.
There's no damage to the pad underneath.
If the Rapture engines, I was really surprised about or very
minimal damage but I saw some like around it.
Yeah, which is insane, but that there's damage around the pad
with other concrete around the pad but not directly underneath
which is crazy to think about for sure because the legs are
definitely scorched. All they're charred yeah, it
looks beautiful and I saw a picture today see Nunez posted a
picture where it looks like to me.
It looks like a pipe has been ruptured.
Underneath the launch Mount as well.
I don't know what could have done that.
What it looks like it came from inside the pipe.
Looks like it might be an over pressure inside the pipe or
something. But anyway, easily replace its
open me open. That's the beauty of this launch
Mount. Is that everything's out there.
It's a, it's easy to access easy to change and fix.
Shouldn't be a problem and there's workers there. 24/7
fixing these things. So probably next few days, we'll
see somebody up there with a giant pipe.
Yeah, I mean, it could be, it could be an illusion, may not be
a ruptured pipe there, but it looks like it's ruptured to me.
Yeah, that's um it looks it either looks like a rupture or
it's some hold down points for it.
Yeah. Yeah, there's definitely some
damn it isn't and that is your expect that it looks so yeah.
But every static fire, every launch attempt, they'll reduce
all this problems because they'll figure out how to get
around them. This should be good.
Yeah, that's why it's a test vehicle.
I like, that's what this whole thing is.
It test is a test bed for future space flight because they're
once they get down here, they're going to move everything over to
Kennedy Space Center. And they'll have more launch
attempts over there in the future.
But right now, they're just very focused on its orbital flight
test, which, like I said before, may happen.
I don't know if it's going to happen, I don't know, Ilan said
in March but Gwen Kate Marsh as well.
There's Yeah, but all it always seems like whenever Ilan or
somebody says, we're ready for March or we're ready to go.
It seems like maybe not, but I don't know.
I'm a little bit skeptical still of their timelines but once
Gwynn said something I was like okay this is a possibility now
because wins in charge when the church was she's in charge of
Starbucks. Yes the one who knows what's
going on? And she's doesn't have a track
record of being Ahead of the game.
She knows her dates are pretty set.
Right. She did.
It was just say it in a tweet. She said it had a conference
with a bunch of other, very important space, flight and
reporters, and other people in the industry.
So I don't think she'd be blowing smoke at all.
I think so it's also important to note that those comments were
made before the static fire and who knows?
If this radek fire brought something in the data that
they're probably still analyzing brought something up that.
It's going to change that. We haven't heard it, but it's
possible that something changed. Yeah, it's a high possibility
that we might not get a launch in March, but it's okay.
April May June rolls around and we haven't had a launch yet.
No, that's too light because they're learning every time they
do. That's too far away.
I don't want to wait that long. I don't want to wait either.
I would love if we could get a March launch.
That would be amazing. I would love it.
But the if they do have to wait, if they do have to go through
five or six more tests of the launch Mound or a static fires
or something like that, just to get a perfect.
That's completely. Okay in spacex's book to they
can do they need to do what they need to do in order to have a
very successful first flight and even Bill Nelson, who's the head
of NASA said that it's great and the static fire was a success.
So if you have somebody like Bill Nelson, in the mix saying
that the SpaceX is doing the right thing, I think they're on
the right course, and Bill Nelson sent out a tweet &,
that's a pretty big deal for this guy.
Yeah, for sure. And I think that it's important
that this orbital flight works for SpaceX.
I think that the more I that I live with this, the more I think
about it, they want this thing to go across 100% flawlessly.
They know how to get to orbit, they've been to orbit hundreds
of times, so that's not the issue.
This is not a new company trying to figure out orbital mechanics.
This is an established company that has a new rocket.
And they're going to do everything.
They possibly can to get this thing up there.
Successfully without any issues. I think that's the goal.
And I think anything less than that.
They're not going to be very happy with it.
Obviously something happens. Then it happens.
But I think that they're expecting this thing to work.
Yeah, and then I think that Gwen's expecting the next flight
to happen in two months. From that point, I think that
they're probably expecting a very quick roll it.
Like they've got Rockets backed up now, right?
They've got 25. Sitting there ready to go?
We've got 26 about start testing.
I'm sure they've got pieces and parts of other Rockets sitting
in the, in the build area to get going as well.
And they're just sitting on them, they're not building them
because there's nowhere to put them.
So I think that there Ready to ramp up.
They've got the booster nine ready to go.
And yeah, I think that's I think they're ready to start this
program in earnest. I think so too.
And building the machine that builds the machine is the
important part of the assembly line, that builds these Rockets.
That's where they're at, right now.
There are the testing is a huge undertaking, but everything that
gets these Rockets to the test pad is way more important than
the rocket themselves. Because once they get the
manufacturing done properly, and they can roll these things out
every few weeks, man. Gwynn said they want to do 100
to 200 flights before they People in one of these things.
That's right. So they only have a few years
before Artemis 3. Yeah.
And they also want. Yeah.
They also want to meet those deadlines.
So that's only like we're talking 50 flights a year.
Yeah. Including this year.
Yeah. Miss see, this rocket going up
4.5 times a month. Yeah.
If they need to make those deadlines, if they want to get
100 flights before they put people, that's what they did
with. They did that with Falcon.
They sent cargo numerous times to the space station before they
had a human. Rated capsule ready, then they
had to do, they had to do test flights at the capsule.
They had to do, test flights with people in them.
So they sent Bob and Doug to the space station, Bob and Doug came
back down successfully and then NASA was like all right Bri for
those guys. Oh my God.
Legends Legends. Like as any test pilot is really
like unbelievable risk that they take every day.
Yeah kissing their families. Goodbye in the morning and Who
knows at that point, right? Like unbelievable unbelievable
guys. Yeah Bob and Doug are Champs in
my book. I yeah.
So they're going to have to go through something like that to
like they're gonna have to send some people to orbit and then
which is it's a possibility that they send some test pilots.
We don't know who to orbit quite yet, Jared.
Isaacman maybe but more than likely somebody else, they'll
pick somebody else because Jarrod has a whole future with
SpaceX. That there they probably should
be worried about because he has a bunch of missions, coming up.
And then we have, what if they have to get 100 to 200, flights?
Do they have enough? FAA are they cleared them for
that many flights from Texas? I thought it was only five
flights per, oh, they won't all go from Texas for sure.
No, there's yeah. If they're probably 75%, build a
tower, built there another Tower in Florida on 39a and then they
also have pad. Don't quote me on this pad 40
in, Cape where they're planning on probably building two more
Towers. So they'll be able to fly from
three different Towers in Florida before, you know, that
is ridiculous. Yeah, yeah.
So there's no guarantee they're going to do two towers at 40 but
there's space for it. So quote-unquote space for it.
Yeah, there's no reason why they couldn't.
And they've got the. They've also got the tankers
they were talking about as well. Not the tankers the oil
platforms. They've been they've mothballed
for now, but at some point, that could revisit that and have
those floating launches as well, yeah, and the only problem that
I can see from Kennedy Space Center is the other traffic
because they are going to have to slot in times, in between
other launches that are going on with either their own Falcon,
9's, flying, or other things going to the space station or
satellite launches or whatever else is it, Kennedy Space answer
this question for me will Who else is launching right now?
Well, when's the last time we launched though?
How many contracts are they yeah?
How many contracts to La have right now?
Or is it all going to stay sex right now?
Everything SpaceX. Yeah so these are the cheaper.
Because of reusability 100%. I don't know that there's a lot
of traffic down there, they have to worry about and they're going
to be on the guys were talking about, right?
They learn they own the pads that were talking about is
building. These launch mounts are humble a
launches from somewhere else and even so does that the hls?
So yeah, and if they start moving, starlink launches to
Starships, they will really need as many Falcon 9 launches from
Kennedy Space Center, that just switch them over to a Starship.
Yep. So do all the other nights.
Yeah, exactly. And SpaceX is Starship, can hold
a lot more than a June 9. As far as star links go.
Absolutely will. They'll just continuously
launch. Yeah.
There's I just put the Falcon 9 inside of several fucking times
inside of this and much smaller ones as possibility.
Yeah, it's a possibility. That would be amazing.
Wouldn't it may be their first test article inside of a
Starship would be a falcon 9. The amazing fucking Luther.
What with their boat 4 meters wide?
Misaki-san. So, theoretically they made fit
three at least, if not for, in the top, with some space then
spent. Yeah, that would be a
ridiculous. That would be obvious.
That would be so funny. No, they wouldn't do that.
It would be funny. I think that would be something
that Elon would do is funny, goof gag kind of thing.
Yeah, sorry launched a car. So, what's next step is.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly, yeah.
There's, there's just so much possibility, it Kennedy Space
Center, and there's so much possibility.
At Texas as well but of course like you were saying there's no
real. There's no real flights coming
out of Kennedy right now. Other than what I can see is I'm
just looking at one now Taryn one from Cape Canaveral, there's
Vandenberg SLC 40 Falcon 9. There's these are all Falcon 9's
you have you while I Delta heavy a cape when as I see 737 that's
in March. So yeah that's not gonna
Nothing's Gonna Stop SpaceX. This is amazing know, they've
proven, they can launch these things really quickly after each
other, like, the last one was a record.
Was it between the last two launches, like five days or
something? If you only has something large,
go ahead and launch. It will just set up tomorrow and
set it up, and send it to space. The next day, these things are
made for Rapid reuse ability, which has to equal rapid set up
as well. They're one in the same, so I
think that it's just a matter of saying, okay, we'll work around
your schedule. Yeah, the only thing I can see
here is Falcon, 9's and Falcon Heavies, and that couple of Ula,
launches and Starliner. Star Liners in April but yes
SpaceX was we spend the money and I'll start line is going to
be great to that's gonna be a good one but that's it.
Yeah SpaceX you're right. They have a monopoly.
They have some artists here, come a monopoly for sure.
Yeah. And you always got to start to
figure out how to reuse some stuff.
You know because they reuse something, you the way they're
launching. Exactly whether launching right
now is it's old technology. You can't get away with that
anymore. The only reason that NASA can
get away with it with the hls. Is that well there NASA?
Yep. So exactly it.
Sobbing program to needs to improve.
Yeah, I agree. I agree and not just for the
nose. I'll take it for 100 percent.
Agree with that, 100% agree with that is moving forward.
It's like people have likened it to Henry Ford when he built the
first automobile in the assembly line and then everybody got a
car. They took a little while for
horses to go away. But then everybody had a car and
then what do you do if you don't have Car anymore.
That's like, where ula in the other people are at this point
because they're just not that. They're old-school.
Hear the horses of the spaceflight industry in Space X
is the Henry. Ford in The Surety at this
point. Yeah through I'm pits gone from
again. Throw these launches.
There's nothing. Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous, pretty crazy. If you break down I haven't done
this map. I don't have it in front of me,
so don't ask for it, but if you break down the cost to get
something to orbit through this, Fully reusable, 100%, reusable
spacecraft. It's not outside.
The realm of Realm of possibility that you and I could
send something the space as far as Costco, right?
It's still going to cost several tens of thousands of dollars,
but it's not millions of dollars, that's for sure.
If we want to send a brief case of our comic books up to space,
we could probably do that for 20,000 30,000 dollars,
something, and that's so accessible.
Not that we want to do that or not that everybody in the world,
should be able to do that. Because there's too much stuff
up there, but it is, it's so cheap now or will be so cheap.
Yeah, I'm just looking at if you want to send, let's say 10 kg to
orbit to low earth orbit. It's about Point 3 mil to get up
there on a ride. Share a small Sate Rideshare,
but it says dedicated, how can our missions as low as 275?
Yeah, out of Falcon died. 275 thousand dollars for a ride.
Share for a falcon 9. Basically.
Just raise some money somehow. If you have off and I'm talking
about, I'm just talking boats Starship, which is good enough
shape or it's going to be significant.
Be lower. Yeah, obviously they have to
fill it. There's gonna be so much room.
Yeah, it's like sending a sending up a container ship
across the ocean. You got to fill the container,
they're not going to yet but I'm going to send a container ship
with half the containers that are half full.
That's not. It's not worth the money but if
they could fill a Starship with cargo or satellites or whatever
has to go up there, then yeah it just gets cheaper as more people
add on to it. Yep. 252 Marshall.
I think initially they'll do starlink just to mitigate risk
for other people's payloads. Absolutely.
But then other Pete wants other other space flight companies.
See or satellite companies see that SpaceX can successfully
launch star links. They're going to jump on board
pretty soon thereafter and I think it's going to be a game
changer for the spaceflight industry and there's gonna be so
much money rolling in. That will fund at the Starship
and the 500, whatever launches they're going to do every year.
Yeah, knowing SpaceX. That's what's going to happen in
the future. There's definitely people out
there with more imagination than I have.
Personally I wonder a question, how much we need to get into
space from a business standpoint?
Like how many satellites different people really need up
there? I want just Starship going to
actually take up there. Obviously starlings going to
fill any gaps that That don't have that where they don't have
cargo ride share programs and stuff like that, but beyond
that, certainly, the ISS or whatever its successor be is
will need cargo taken up when you go to the moon.
Will need cargo for that Mars after that, but I wonder how
many satellites are actually needed up there that will fill
the Starship up constant. Yeah, it says, we don't see ya.
We don't see constant flights of satellites every single day.
From Kennedy Space Center on a falcon 9.
It's once maybe twice a month, something like that, we're just
taking up a fraction of the weight.
So could you, it's what I think is happening at SpaceX is going
into business business with themselves here and they're
spending all the money building a Starship.
So they can build this darlink, the satellite program, the whole
thing and then they're going to IPO the star league program.
And make money hand over fist, which are linked.
So they can continue building Starships into starlink pays for
Starship, which pays for starlink, which B is right.
The pyramid scheme is very telling me Starships appear, I
think so. I think it's an MLM.
Yeah. Fixing a note.
Next thing, you know, Elon Musk can be knocking on the door with
Tupperware. Yeah.
And here we have a Tupperware party now.
It's it seems I mean business is Do that all the time though.
They've separate divisions that by other things from other
divisions and they treat them as two separate businesses but
they're basically in business with themselves.
So, it's much as I would love Tesla and SpaceX do that
already. They have Tesla parts and SpaceX
rockets for sure. Some actuators and some
batteries. And yeah, batteries actually a
somebody's worked against what's running the fins.
Their Tesla best, the actuators. And berries.
So, yeah, there's some gambling on some rockets that will be
taken care of with some Tesla Parts as well in the future.
Think that's what I read somewhere but I can't remember
exactly what. Yeah, I heard them changing over
from from the old system to Tesla Parts.
Yeah. From Hydraulics to actual
Motors. Yeah it's crazy.
Yeah. If they're if I can certainly
see something sorry Hiram. I was saying, if the company is
someone companies good at something just hire him to do it
if you Tesla's the best, edit higher Tesla, Exactly make
sense. But works there to work here?
Yep. No reason to reinvent anything.
Yeah. So, what's next then down at
Starbase we have a couple road closures that were canceled for
Monday and Tuesday of this week. Wednesday.
Looks like it's still on, but you said you mentioned ship. 26
is down there. Yeah, we've got actually 25 on
on one of the pads and one of the tests pads and ship 26,
right beside it. It's become whole home to see to
Starships down there now. But at one point, we were over
the moon to see two of them down there at the same time, but
yeah, 25 is just Really, it's just waiting.
I think it's past most of its test.
It needs to static fire a few more times but it's really just
sitting there waiting for 24 to get out of the way. 26 is a
different vehicle. 26 is missing a few things, right?
Yeah, I know heat shield. No fins no heat shield, no fins.
And what does that say though? What does that mean?
Is that a tanker or is it a test?
If it's a structural test of a new body?
It's about it's no worse things, it's hard to know.
But one thing for sure is it's not coming back, not in one
piece anyway, it doesn't have any take doesn't have the heat
shield to get through the atmosphere and then it doesn't
have the fins to land. So This is this is a one-way
trip for 26. If it actually makes it up, it
could just be something, they're working on land.
Yeah. And I was thinking about that
because I saw reports that there's different structure on
the inside of the ship for ship 26.
Oh yeah. Compared to 24 25.
I read that. So I think is on NASA space,
flight forums and there was speculation that it is a test
article for a tanker or some sort of Depot of some sort in to
everybody out there. Listening that doesn't know what
the depot. When the tanker that I'm talking
about is SpaceX is going to have to refuel the starship.
In orbit, in order to get the Starship to the moon, or to
Mars, and they're going to have to have a fuel Depot.
That these tankers will fly to these.
Tankers will fly to a Depot, push all their extra fuel into
these Depots and then a star ship will dock with that and
then we'll go on its merry way after a fuels up, but this could
be the inner workings of one of those kinds of ships because
they have to, there's no room for Go or anything like that.
So it's just a basically, just a tube with fuel, like a fuel
tube, and there's a lot of testing has to happen with that.
They need to be able to move that fuel and space, there's no
gravity in this thing in orbit. So I have to figure out a whole
bunch of physics there to get this fuel to move in the right
way. And empty itself.
So essentially, they're going to have when they refuel in orbit,
they'll need. I think it was 10 launches to
refuel that spacecraft in orbit after after that spacecraft
launches and pushes itself into orbit, It'll have basically one
tenth of fuel that the rocket needs to get to the moon or the
space, the other Starship that comes will need to get to the
moon. It's a lot of launches.
Yeah, if you think of what Gwen was saying they have to do, they
have to do what 100 or 200 launches in order to make a year
to have a crewed flight. Are they taught, is she talking
about 100 fuel tanker, launches or Depot launches Starship crew
launches? Because these, the booster could
launch a hundred times be completely fine with the
tankers, but if they only do a few crew launch, it will crew
capsule launches every year like 5 or 10.
Seems ridiculous like just a few 5 or 10 or 20 years.
Yeah, that is ridiculous. Yeah, I think getting two orbits
easy, I think SpaceX has done that many times and you don't
really proving anything putting a tanker into orbit.
I don't think we're as you are definitely proving something to
land this vehicle again and be consistent is where it's landing
and catch it with this Tower as they want to do.
So I think that those are the hundred launch of.
They want to do it. When wants to do before this
thing carries People. They want to make sure that this
thing can get back down to the ground and land safely, not
land. Get caught safely, which is
still ridiculous. Yeah, we'll have to see it.
You have to see it in action because if all we've seen from
this Landing vehicle, is that it landed, once it wasn't even a
good Landing, you know, smg15 landed once actually, one of the
other ones land in the next bloated, but what you don't want
it either. But we understand that they
don't want to, they don't want to land it.
They want to prove that they can land it because are not going to
land that they're going to catch it but you still have to prove.
You can catch it. And you still have to prove that
the rocket can be accurate enough in its Landing to be, and
I think that's got to be done 100 times.
I certainly wouldn't get at before they prove that yeah,
that's weird too. So while we're having this
conversation and I thought about this a lot over the last two
weeks of how they're going to like, just the mindset shift
from everybody in a spaceflight industry of.
Oh yeah, we're just going to drop a capsule into the ocean
and have some parachutes and stuff to oh no.
We're going to do like this kick turn move in that hover.
You over these arms. And then it's going to be fine.
Like you just going to float down and you're going to land
on. These arms are going to move you
to the Side Lower. You down.
Just a little bump of giant. Yeah.
Just a little quick. What was it?
Five to ten G's or something like that?
I think somebody did the math. It was some decent amount of
cheese. Yeah.
For the flip move but it just blows my mind to think that
they're going to be doing a hundred of those in probably not
the towers, probably not going to survive every single one of
those. Out of the beginning?
No, yeah. I'm assuming they're going to do
20 or 30 of these flights with hover Landings in the ocean, or
on some sort of Mark in the ocean somewhere, or in the been
the Gulf of Mexico or something. I can see them doing mock UPS as
well. They've got a landing pad here
in Texas, there in Texas, I can see them doing a mock up, sort
of a very skeleton frame system, to a mat over the launch mode,
Over The Landing Pad where they can just say, okay, yep.
You are within five feet of our Mark or we missed it by 20 feet
or whatever before they even get close to the Tower.
Yeah, there's a possibility to. Yeah.
They inch closer and closer. I think they have to worry about
if they're starting to land at starting to catch.
I should say at taxes is the environmental stuff in once they
if they mess up any of the environmental stuff the FAA
might come after them or the the environmental groups and stuff
and that may hold them up and four years possibly in court
trying to figure that stuff out. They must have some of that
stuff and I think they're going to figure it out.
Out. Yeah, they must have some of
that stuff worked out by. Now, we've been sitting on this
sort of environmental approval for a long time.
They must have, it's not Justice.
Is for the next launch. This must be worked out through
for all lunches. Here are the parameters.
You need to work within and what you need protect.
And I think beyond that you're going to be find some kind.
Yeah, yeah, and if they continue to do it like that was, that's
where I was going to go with that as if they continue to do
it. If they do it once.
They're like, okay, let's we understand like this part of the
prototyping and part of the landing system, we get it.
But if they continually do it, if they do it.
You know, five times in the haven't gotten anywhere with it
and there's shrapnel everywhere and something, the environment
gets damaged, some species down there, get damaged, then they
might have to do another call back to that.
But I think they're going to be okay with it.
I think they'll take a very easily because Gwen knows the
billions of dollars. That NASA spends on Starship
program for the hls. She knows that money is
important and she knows that getting this right is the most
important thing for human space, flight and space flight in
general, pretty much ever I think.
Yeah, I think absolutely is the most one of the most important
Rockets of all time. So I think they're going to take
their time with it and get all those ducks in a row so to speak
before they do. First, very sort of test
Landings at the site, but once they figure that out, man, it's
going to be crazy and we're going to see 100 flights a year.
Just catch every other day, almost every other day if they
300 365 days in a year it'll be every 3-4 days that they do a
flight. They might even do a couple
flights per day. Pretty crazy, pretty crazy.
Can't wait to see it. It's a dress.
I'm watching NASA space. Flights live view right now.
There are six lifts underneath the The laundromat right now
that I can see. So they've got a lot of people
that yarder. Okay, and I know that you're
there working on the mountain out the yeah, Brewster at the
engines, one of them might be worth looking at the engines,
but the restaurant on the mountain.
Okay, six lips. Wow, idiots.
One of those lifts probably carries two three people because
you usually have to have a buddy system for sure.
I've seen people walking around as well on top, so there's
definitely more going on than that but it's just interesting
to see. How much Works going on?
It was only a yeah. It's only a few days ago what
four days ago since the static fire.
So, inspections were happening. Probably the day after they were
gathering data and now they're taking that data and putting it
into action. What broke what didn't break?
What are we see? What's a liability here?
What can we fix? Will keep a.
We'll have to keep an eye on that pipe that you saw earlier
see if they replace that or yeah.
See if they make some changes to it because yeah, it looks bro.
Kin to me if it looks. Right.
Looks pretty blown out. Yeah, something happened to it.
Yeah, so in the next exciting times.
Yeah next few days, ship 25, maybe something but ship 26,
more than likely doing a cryo or pressure test but we'll see what
happens down at the pad. If the pad is more important
than the ships, then they'll definitely continue working on
the pad then ship 26, and then push these off probably till
next week because there's no other road closures this week.
It Yeah, I think you've hit the nail on the head there that
they're putting their resources into the launch Mount right now.
And I'll get back to it. There's no Russian 26.
We get it. Rid of 24 and 25 before that's a
problem. Yeah, exactly.
All right think that's pretty. I think we covered pretty much
ended. Is there anything else about
Starship that we should know about?
We did a pretty good, I think it's good.
It's a pretty good. Can't think of anything else
right now. I think we're I think we're
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