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Nice to meet you. I love it.
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I love you guys too. Thanks guys.
Have a seat. So.
That was something. I am become meme, Yeah, pretty
much. I'm just, I'm living the meme.
I'm it's like this living the dream and there's living the
meme and it's pretty much what's happening, you know?
You're like, I think you're. Bigger.
I mean, doge started out as a meme, think about it.
And now it's real, isn't that? Crazy it is.
It is crazy, but it's. Cool.
Let me ask you this. A year ago, if someone had told
you you'd be at CPAC and working with the president to absolutely
shred the government, the swamp, whatever you want to call it,
would you ever believe that? No.
Me neither, but it's cool.
This is awesome and and I just want to say, you know, thanks
for your support. I mean, guys are, you know, so I
mean, we're, you know, we're trying to get, get good things
done, but also like, you know, have a good time doing it and,
you know, and have like a sense of humor, you know, So like, I
mean, the, the, the sort of the left wanted to make comedy
illegal. You know, you can't make fun of
anything. So there's like, comedy sucks.
It's like nothing's funny. You can't make fun of anything.
It's like legalize comedy. Yeah, legalize.
Comedy and we we've, we've shifted the entire culture in
just the last few months, the whole culture of this country
has shifted dramatically just because of that election.
Yeah, exactly. You know, freedom of speech,
having, you know, having fun again, it seems like we should
have, we should have a good time, you know?
It, I mean, it's a great time. Everybody in this place is so
excited, and I haven't. I mean, when you talk to
conservatives, everybody's happy.
Yeah. And everybody feels this great
sense of relief because we were going to hell for about four
years. It really felt bad, especially
toward the end. It felt really bad.
Yeah, I, I mean, I, I thought we, I, I thought we were sort of
heading for a point in no return really, you know, until that's
why I was so essential that President Trump win the election
and and that there, there be a Republican majority in the House
and Senate, which thanks to you with that, that has been
accomplished. Yeah, Yeah.
I want to ask you one of the biggest questions I have for you
is and you've been, you know, politically, you weren't really
on one side or the other for a long time.
You're a businessman. A lot of people, they stay away
from it. Now you're on a side and you've
chosen to side. You're sitting here in a MAGA
hat. What's how did that happen?
What was the moments like you? Know dark Gothic Magas.
That's a good one. What?
Was there a specific moment? Was there a moment that it all
changed? Yeah, when I realized it was a
fool. But no, I I was, I guess, Yeah.
I mean, I'd say like I was probably politically neutral for
for quite a while, you know, you know, leaning a little Democrat,
you know, how do you go from this?
Yeah, No, no. Well.
Did they go crazy? Yeah, they did.
They did go crazy. Yeah, they went crazy.
No, I mean that whole cancel culture and and you know, it's
trying to stop freedom of speech and infringe upon just in
general infringe upon people's personal freedoms.
You know, they just want state control, state control what you
say they want to, you know, take away your your guns and the
reason I want to take away your guns, so like there's nothing
you do to oppose them. So it's sort of like, you know,
I just, I just like, we just need to restore the fundamental
elements of what made America great, which is freedom and
opportunity. We're seeing a lot of these
freedoms disappearing in the West.
It's, it's not just about America.
We're watching, we're all watching Europe and knowing that
they're about 5000 years ahead of us, right?
Because they got an early start and we're watching how they're
devolving. And you're trying to save it
from happening here. I mean, in Europe they put
people in prison for memes, you know?
I'm like, that's insane. And they're collapsing.
I mean, there's a society is it's a collapsing society.
It feels that way. It feels like.
France was nicer 50 years ago than it is today.
Yeah, I don't think you can question that.
Yeah, so. But yeah, I mean really.
Thanks. I love you too.
I mean. I really, I really just wanted
to do useful things like, you know, basically build products,
you know, provide products and services that that are that are
good and that that I wasn't really like that interested in
being political. It just like there was at a
certain point no choice. So.
Yeah. Can I, can I ask you what it on
the same side of that coin? What's it like from going
neutral to being vilified, largely vilified by the media?
I think you're what? No.
Really. I mean, turn on some of these
channels, brother. I mean, they don't.
They're angry. Does it?
Bother you at all this little good to you, I.
Mean when they're chanting for my death, I suppose that's a
little, you know, not good. And then, like, the song's not
even that good. And it's like, like you call
that a death chant? That's nothing, please.
They've been singing a lot. Even good music.
There's a lot of music lately. It's not good music either.
Yeah, I would say that they're, you know, watching what you're
doing with Doge. Is is just that people love it.
I mean, I I've always looked at the government and I've, I've
always looked at the government. I've seen this big machine that
and you just know that they waste because they don't care.
Nobody could just more money coming.
They don't care. You're cutting all this out.
Everybody in this country knows that the government is full of
waste, fraud and abuse and you're doing the work and the
Americans love it. Watching their reaction
politically to this, I can't believe how bad they are at
responding to this. I don't know how you're going to
sit there and and scream and complain because they're cutting
waste out of the government and try to win another election.
How do you how do you try to win on that?
Well, I'm at this point, I'm like, I'm not sure how much of
the left is even real, you know? How much was propped up by our
money, you know? Yeah, yeah.
Like literally, you know, you see like these these sort of
fake rallies where there's like hardly any people and the media
will like frame it and like, you know, get all six people, you
know, in the frame. But it's like nobody else is
there. Like just it's, it doesn't have
popular support. But but but there's but, but
then you, then you, you learn that like there's hundreds of
billions of dollars going to be so-called NGOs that, that, that
and it's your tax dollars that are funding things that are
fundamentally anti American. And, and they're propping up
their narrative. Yes, a lot of that government
money has been propping up a left that I don't think is as
strong as they made it seem. In fact, a massive amount of of
your tax dollars is going to legacy media companies directly
from the from from the. Government.
The government wants to take over media.
Yeah, it's terrible. Yeah.
That's why we have X. Yeah, and that's.
That's why you spent $44 billion.
I mean, there's a lot of money. I mean.
More than it was probably worth, but it had a There was a
message. Freedom is priceless.
Priceless. Yeah, probably one of the most
important investments this country's ever seen.
If you got to protect the 1st Amendment, it's not much more
important than that. Yeah, I got a lot of criticism
and people said, well, that proves he is a huge idiot from
a, you know, like, look, you know, you voted for whatever,
$44 billion and now it's worth like $0.08 and.
It's not worth $0.08. But but, you know, there's that.
But but the yeah, it was it was essentially to, you know, buy
freedom of expression and. Yeah, that's gone.
It's all. Over.
Yeah, it's all over. Yeah, into tyrannies really
quick after that. Yeah, I mean, like, you know,
it's all the all the sort of federal money going to media
companies is what what helps explain why the legacy media all
says the same thing at the same time.
Yeah. Like isn't it like it's like
weird, Like you can put them up where it's like, you know, like
when they. They're mouthpieces for for the
state. For the state, yes.
And that's that's what we've come to know.
Yeah, scary. And and I like that that mean
when they whether because they're always saying like
threat to our democracies, that threat to.
But if you just replaced democracy with bureaucracy,
yeah, it makes a lot of sense. Makes perfect sense.
Yeah, big threat to the bureaucracy.
That's exactly right. Let's talk about, let's talk
about these DOGE dividend checks that everybody's talking about
this week. And I know you tweeted out that
you're going to, does everybody want like a $5000 check in the
mail? It sounds kind of good, right?
And and the best part about it would be knowing where it came
from that that's 5 grand that you sent them last year.
Totally. It's it's, it's, it's money
that's taken away from from things that are destructive to
the country that and from organizations that hate you to
you. That's awesome.
Is it does it seem like, I mean, have you talked?
I mean, that's like glorious, but this is, that's like the
spoils of battle, you know? I like that.
Is there? Is there traction on that?
Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, yeah, I took the
president, he's supportive of that.
And so it sounds like, you know, that's something we're we're
going to do. Yep.
So as as we're finding savings, that's going to translate
directly to reductions in tax. So yeah.
I mean, I think they fired 6000 people at the IRS today.
And I think what Nick said last night that he, they're talking
about shutting down the IRS. And I think it's fair.
I think people should realize this is, I mean, the amount of
money that we said we send Washington like 5 or 6 trillion
a year, that is such an ungodly amount of money.
I mean, what are they? They say like a trillion seconds
is like 30 years or something like that.
I mean, that's how much we send them.
And they seem to never have enough.
There's must be a lot you can cut.
No, absolutely. People ask me what's the most
surprising thing that you've encountered when you go to DC?
You know, we're in DC and I said, well, the most surprising
thing is the scale of the expenditures and actually how
easy it is to with a just just what when you add caring and
competence where it was absent before, you can actually save
billions of dollars sometimes in this in an hour like it's it's
wild. And then they scoff at it and
say, oh, a few billion here, there.
I mean, the way they're talking about it, they, they, you can
see they don't care. It's, it's so it's such little
money compared to how much they're used to wasting.
That's what's really scary. Yeah, no, I mean, it's exactly,
but obviously it's, it's, it just shows that they they really
lack empathy for the average taxpayer who's working hard,
paying, paying taxes. And then and then they say, oh,
$1,000,000 doesn't matter. I'm like, I think it matters a
lot people, you know, So what are you talking about?
I'd like to have it. Let me ask you a question.
I, you know, I know the president fairly well.
Watched him survive 2 assassination attempts.
The second. Had the first one not happened,
the second one would have gotten him.
You know, it was very because without those extra guys, they
would have never seen that gun poking through the fence at the
golf course. I saw the crew that you the.
Crew that you mind blowing that this has happened.
I mean it just and and what by the way, why do we still know
nothing about that guy in Butler?
What's going on? But he's.
He's. Cash is going to get to the
bottom of it, yeah. There you go.
By the way, yeah. Confirm, confirm just a couple
hours ago, but I I saw that the security detail that you had
come in is, is enormous. That enormous.
Maybe it should be bigger. I think you could probably
afford it, but I mean, how concerned are you about your
safety dealing? I mean, it's you are you are a
wanted man. Are you?
Are you enormous? So I look, I'm open to ideas for
improving security. I have to tell you, like, I, I
don't actually have a death wish.
I think I, but, but you know, it's not that easy.
So yeah, I mean, yeah, but, but I have like I've had even like
people like President Buchelli from El Salvador who, who
managed to put in prison like like 100,000 like murderous
thugs. And and he was like, he called
me. He's like, I'm worried about
your security. I'm like, you're worried about
my security. I'm like, what?
OK, you know. I mean, yeah, talk about guts to
do that down there. I mean, yeah, totally.
And and survive. I'm like, I was like, how did
you put all those thugs in prison without dying?
Because it seems like that would have been not easy, you know?
Well, there's a the, the, the president has one of his top
attorneys is now investigating, I guess Chuck Schumer for
threats against SCOTUS congressman on the Democrat side
who's saying, you know, basically saying you're going to
bring a war to you, like a fight to you.
I mean the rhetoric. You guys are screwing with
things that are not supposed to be messed with.
And we're fighting the Matrix. A lot of people that really
don't want that to happen. Yeah, we're fighting the Matrix
big time here. Yeah, but it has got to be done.
Yeah, and are. Are you?
It certainly does. What's what's going on with tell
us about Fort Knox? Yeah, is Kentucky.
It's a military base. It's a ton of gold.
Tons and tons and tons of Gold 5. 1000 tons of gold.
Or 5000 or 10 are there in the ground and like this I mean it's
a very secure thing you. All want to see it you.
Know I'd love to see. It like this is your gold, by
the way, it's the public's goal do.
You think it's not there? I don't know, but I think.
Just want to see it. Yeah, we want to go see it and
just make sure like somebody did a spray paint some lad or
something, you know? Yeah, like is this real gold
bite the bar, You know, didn't. But I think honestly, you know,
part of this also is just like, let's let's you know, let's have
some fun. And and and you know, like, like
I said, this, this oldest gold at Fort Knox, it's the public's
gold. It's your gold.
So like, I think you have like a right to see it.
You want to take a tour, You know, Yeah.
I think we should have it, do it, do it tour.
And the president last night was like, that's all.
I think he's in favor of it. That would be cool.
And then we, like, should be like a live tour.
Like you can see what's going on, open the door like what's
behind it. Well, and there's, you know, I
think. I'd watch that.
Oh, are you kidding? Yeah.
I mean, what is? What is 5000 tons of gold?
What is? The big is it?
Is it? Is it the size of this?
Got to be pretty big, you know? It's got to be a lot of.
People, there's some other stuff in there, like it's walk around.
Like, I don't know, maybe I got some other stuff in there.
Are you thinking about auditing the Federal Reserve as well?
Which is obviously, Yeah, sure. Regular regulatory economy.
I I imagine you think the waste has got to be.
Everywhere, yeah, no waste. Waste is pretty much everywhere.
People ask like, how can you find waste in in like in DC?
I'm like, look, it's like being in a room and this target, the
wall, the roofs and the floor are all targets.
So it's like you're going to close your eyes and go shoot in
any direction. You can't miss, you know, So
it's, it's, it's pretty wild, like like you just push on
things a little bit and, and you save billions of dollars, like
just a little bit, you know, it's.
Wild. It's scary, isn't?
It that's why I say like it really is underrated.
If you add caring and competence, how much things
improve. Yeah, and, and, you know, and we
said we just find so many totally crazy things at which,
you know, we're obviously we're sharing with the public.
We post everything we learn, you know, just, you know, so you can
see it, you know, what do you, It's like, isn't it Like it's
totally wild. Like we did just, we just did
like a check the database on Social Security, like says how
many a lot Americans alive, Americans eligible for Social
Security are there. And according to the database,
it's over 400 million. And we're like, wait a second.
And how many are getting open again?
Yeah, and and then like we found like one person in there is like
360 years old. I'm like, what did they know
been? 100 years for the Revolution.
Yeah, you know there's America didn't exist before at that time
like so I so. Yeah, we were colonies.
You know, maybe it's just me, but I think it's a red flag.
I don't know. But are there indications that
those that there were checks going to those people or any of
those people? Well, yes.
I guess the question right this, I mean, I get the Social
Security Administration is dumb, but are they paying these
people? Are they that dumb?
I don't know. A bunch of money is going out
for the Social Security Administration and in fact, from
all entitlements programs 70. 2 billion in waste in like 7
years. That's ten billion a year.
Well, I I think the the. Fraudulent payments.
The the rough or estimate from general Government
Accountability offices on as over $500 billion a 40 year.
If I. 500 billion. And how long at the time?
Of per year. Per year on on Social Security.
No, no on on all. On all government.
On all entitlements. All entitlements.
All entitlements, yeah. Yeah, it sort of actually makes
sense when you look at the thing from a top level and say like,
OK, the $7 trillion was spending by the government.
What percentage do you think is fraudulent?
OK, exactly. Like a conservative estimate of
the 7 trillion would be 10%. Conservative, probably a little
higher than that, you know, exactly.
Feels like 1/4 out every dollar. Right.
But if if the fraud's only 10% of 7 trillion, you've got $700
billion of fraud. Yeah.
And by the way, it's like really easy to take advantage of the
federal government. It's very easy.
Very easy look at COVID. Yes.
Everybody got rich during COVID. I mean, look at all these
scares. I mean, it's unbelievable.
We. We, it looks like for, in terms
of the COVID payments, there was something like $200 billion of,
of COVID payment fraud taken by fraudsters out of the country.
That's like, I think, listen, if there's going to be fraud, it
should at least be domestic. So you know, but they managed to
get $200 billion out of the country.
I'm like, what? Didn't we notice that?
Let me ask you, let's do immigration here for a second.
You know, there's this move now that the Trump's latest thing is
that he cut, he's going to cut funding any kind of money that
ends up in the hands of illegal immigrants.
So if you're funding these sanctuary cities and states,
that's how right, right. They're paying for these hotels.
That's all federal money. If you got a hotel in your city
in New York, you got all these hotels full of migrants.
That's not state money. That's the feds are covering
that. He's going to cut all that.
It's really hard to deport 15,000,000 people.
And it seems like the move now is let's see if we, especially
at the rate that we're going, it seems like the move now is let's
make it so that they leave on their own.
If there's no longer a dole system for them, if they can't
get their hands on hotel rooms and money, they're going to go
back, especially if there's no work.
Well, I think it's really important for people to
understand that the the Biden administration sent any possible
money that they could. They could if if there was money
they could send to facilitate and amplify illegal immigration,
they sent it OK. They took money from FEMA meant
for helping Americans in distress and sent that money to
luxury hotels for illegal immigrants in New York.
That is a an outrage. They actually did that.
And and not only that, even after president signed an
executive order saying it has to stop the FEMA the the the sort
of whatever deep state bureaucrats still still pressed
send on $80 million last week to go to the Roosevelt Hotel in New
York and other places last week and now and now they're mad that
they've got stopped and they're like trying to sue to have it be
restored. It's like the gumption you.
Think you think they're creating a new voter classes?
Would you think that was the goal when they open up the
orders for four years, create a new voter class, get them
citizenship, get them in. Yeah, 3 cards vote.
A lot of these things like you don't actually have to assume
some grand conspiracy. You just need to look at basic
incentives, benefits. So if the incentives, the
fundamentally if the probability that an illegal is going to vote
Democrat at some point, whether it's a, you know, cheating, but
eventually that can become citizens.
But if the probability is like 8090%, just look at California
which is super majority Dem and then the incentive is to
maximize the number of illegals in the country.
That is why the Biden administration was pushing to
get in this as many illegals as possible and spend every dollar
possible to get as many because every one of them is a customer,
everyone is a voter. So the whole thing is a giant
voter importation scam. Pretty obvious.
Very obvious. And then they moreover then
they, they, they actually created the CVP 1 border app
thing where they were, which is like where they could, they
would literally fly people in. It's not like like at the point
at which you know, people being flown in at, at your expense.
Sending planes. Building a wall up doesn't.
Fly them over the border. Yeah, they're literally flying
them in. No other, no other country in
the world would do something like this.
Nobody is this stupid. Yeah.
And, and then we found that it was like $100 million contract
given to some guy in London actually oddly enough for the
CVP One app. So, so then so they're flying
illegals into the swing states. Yeah.
And, and if you've got like a margin of victory of maybe
20,000 people and you fly 200,000 illegals into that
state, it's not going to be a swing state for long.
Change the numbers eventually, yeah, maybe in four or eight
years you're exactly it's. Just a matter it's a.
Long game it's. Just a matter of time.
Yeah. So it might take like a year for
a sound secret or something to get on the to get get a green
card and then five years for the citizenship.
It's it's it's an investment that is guaranteed to pay off.
Yeah. Just a question of when.
They all remember who brought them in and who left them here.
Exactly, exactly. I want to go back.
I want to talk. About big deal.
Like, I think a lot of people like don't quite appreciate that
this was an actual real scam at scale to tilt the scales of
democracy in America. It's.
Treason. Treason.
Yeah, one more Biden question. I I remember when, you know,
when when they would do the electric car stuff, they would
always try to box you out even though you have the only
electric car anybody wants. Yeah, you you said, I think this
week that you think that Biden left these astronauts up in
space because he didn't want to give you an opportunity to save
them, make NASA look bad, make the private sector look better,
make you look good. You believe that?
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So of course.
I kind of agree. I mean, I why would he want to
let you help them come down when you're supporting?
The president, the Biden administration was was attacking
me next level. I mean the Department of of
Justice or injustice under the Biden administration was I mean,
there was suing SpaceX. There's they're suing SpaceX for
not hiring asylum seekers and we're like, but it's actually
illegal for us to hire up silent seekers because we're rocket
technology is covered under ITAR rules, which is that means it's
an advanced weapons technology. And so we can only hire
permanent residents or green or or orchestra citizens like so.
So we're damned if we do it, damned if we don't.
We said like, so how can they sue us for not hiring asylum
seekers when it's actually illegal for us to do so?
But nonetheless, there was a big Department of Justice or
Injustice case about this against SpaceX.
So obviously it was an antagonistic situation.
And those astronauts were supposed to be up there for 8
days, and now they're up for eight months.
Does that make any sense? And, and, and we, we obviously
could have brought them back sooner, but they didn't want it
to, didn't want anyone who supported President Trump to
look good basically. Yeah, that's the, that's the,
that's the issue. The, a lot of them are saying
right now that the reason that you want to get into Social
Security, that you want to get into all of these different,
into treasury and things like that, is that you're looking for
personal information and you're trying to make more money.
Yeah, I I've never met anybody as rich as you that cared less
about money in my life. Every time I hear a story about
you, you're sleeping on a couch of some other guy in a city that
you could buy the entire thing. Yeah, I'm not I.
Don't think you care about money, do you?
No, actually, I mean listen like if I if I steal some Social
Security I can finally buy nice things.
And, and, and on that same question, they're also talking
about you guys are going to end Social Security, you're going to
end Medicare, you're going to end these things.
I, I don't imagine that conversation has been had with
the president and that's, that's the plan.
No, in fact, the actions that we're taking with the support of
the president and the support of the agencies is what will save
Medicare, what will save Social Security.
And and it's it's because if the country goes insolvent, if, if,
if all the if all the money is just spent on paying interest on
debt, there's no money left for anything.
Yeah. So that's that's the reason I'm
doing this is because I was looking at the big picture here.
And it's like, man, our debt's getting out of control.
The the interest payments, the interest on the national debt
now exceeds the entire Defense Department budget.
A. Trillion a year in interest just
to carry the money that we owe is a trillion a year.
That is unbelievable. And rising rapidly.
So. So like it's, I mean, the
country's not different from a person country overspends,
country goes bankrupt, same with the same as a person who
overspends goes bankrupt. So it's it's not like optional
to solve these things, it's essential.
So we're going to go bankrupt? Yes, we are.
Couple minutes left here, Russia there's a huge push from.
The Oh yeah, yeah. People like, sort of like to end
this war, say like, you know, I, I'm, I'm a, I'm a bored asset of
Putin. I'm like he can't afford me.
Yeah, I think, I think you're worth more than Russia.
Think about it. So what we're you're trying to
end, you're trying to end a war. It's all any war always means.
You have to compromise. You have to negotiate with an
enemy or an adversary. That's just what it is.
And right now, they are lambasting the president for
trying a different method to a war that they haven't been able
to end for 3 1/2 years or three years.
They, you know, they're saying Trump's blaming Zielinski for
the invasion. How do you how do you process
all of the negativity toward him for trying to end this war?
Well, first of all, I think we should have empathy for the
people dying at the front lines. That's the most important thing.
And people have been dying. You know, it's like, how many
more years is this supposed to go on?
And imagine if that was your son, your father, you know, what
are what are they dying for? What exactly are they dying for?
That line that has the line of engagement has barely moved for
two years. There's a whole bunch of people
dead in trenches for what? And I'll tell you what, for what
it's like for the biggest graft machine that I've ever seen in
my life. That's for what it's, it's
unreal. Like the amount of money that is
that is being taken in Grafton bribery is, is disgusting.
And, and so what's actually happening is that those, those,
you know, people, those poor guys are getting sent into a
meat grinder for money. That's what's actually going on
and it needs to stop. And that's, I mean, that's it,
it seems. I mean, Trump is so pragmatic on
this. It, it just, he's just looking
at it and he's saying it's Ukraine.
It's not our country, it's not a NATO ally.
I just want to see people not dying.
I want to see on both sides just I mean, think about how many
young, so many young men have died in Ukraine that the army is
starting to age out. The military is aging out.
You got 40 and 50 year old guys fighting in a war because
there's nobody left that's not killed or maimed in their 20s.
That's the reality of the think about how many people that is.
If you're a humanitarian at all, you just got to end the war.
Like no matter what, just get it over with.
Yes, people, they need to stop dying and and and the gruff
machines got to stop, you know, so and I think people it they
don't a lot of people out there don't realize like the president
has a lot of empathy. He really cares, you know, he's
a good, he's a good man, so. I got one more for you.
I've been fascinated by you for a very long time.
Thanks. I've just, I just, I've never
seen anybody that can, you know, do so many things at the same
time. I mean, you've got the Rockets,
you got the cars. I've always wanted to ask you,
what is it like inside your mind like this?
Is it just 1000 miles an hour? I mean, are you.
Yeah. Is it just not.
I mean, this. Does it ever stop?
Do you sleep? How much do you sleep?
What's paint us a picture of inside of of the mind of a
genius? Like, how do you.
How? Do you do all?
This can you answer that question?
It's not an easy question, yeah. I mean, my mind is a storm, so
it's a storm. But but I mean, let me maybe
tell you something like you didn't ask the question, but but
I think it's worth kind of nonetheless, maybe just just
elaborating on something, which is, you know, I grew up in in
South Africa and but my morality was informed by America.
I read comic books, you know, play Dungeons and Dragons and,
and I watched American TV shows and it like, it seemed like
America cared about being the good guys, you know, about doing
the right thing. And, and, and that's actually
pretty unusual, by the way. It's like, it's like in the
world. It's very unusual.
Yeah, it's not like actually. Those countries don't do that.
No, they don't. No.
And so I was like, yeah, you know, you, you want to be this
good, you want to be on the side of good, you want to care about
what's right. And, and yeah, so that's,
that's, yeah, what I believe in, you know, so.
I gave you, I gave you a tough one at the end.
Yeah. So yeah.
That's great. That's great, Elon Musk.
All right, Thank you. Thank you so much.
All right. I
appreciate it. Thanks.
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