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Hey everybody. 
Welcome back to the Elon Musk 

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Podcast. 
This is a show where we discuss 

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the critical crossroads, the 
Shape, SpaceX, Tesla X, The 

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Boring Company, and Neurolink. 
I'm your host, Will Walden. 

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Hello, hello, hello, everyone. 
Thank you all for being here. 

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It's great to see a lot of 
familiar faces out there. 

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For those joining us online, 
we're here in the Boring Company

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Tunnel for our latest product 
unveil and right on brand of 

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this, this event is powered by 
Megapacks and Cyber truck. 

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All right, let's get started. 
At Tesla, we are building a 

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world filled with sustainable 
abundance powered by sustainable

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energy. 
And tonight we are launching the

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next chapter in that vision. 
We are an engineering centric 

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and engineering LED company and 
we believe that electric 

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vehicles, charging, storage and 
solar and autonomy, they are not

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separate tools, but they are one
of they are part of 1 seamless 

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solution set. 
We are leveraging our 

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manufacturing expertise. 
We are leveraging our 

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manufacturing expertise to 
produce products affordably and 

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at scale, increasing the 
reliability, increasing the 

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reliability of clean energy and 
transportation in our 

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communities. 
Tesla offers hardware, software,

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controls and service all under 
one roof. 

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We have engineers across the 
full spectrum of product 

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development, energy projects and
manufacturing. 

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It's really what allows us to 
innovate and iterate quickly to 

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produce the best products in the
world. 

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Now in 2023, we introduced 
Master Plan Part 3 and we 

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outlined how the entire Earth 
could be run off sustainable 

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energies using technologies we 
have today. 

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In order to eliminate fuels, we 
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We need to power the grid within
renewables, but to do that, that

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requires massive batteries. 
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sustainable economy, we 
calculated that the world needed

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46 terawatt hours or 46,000 GW 
hours of storage. 

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Now we know, we know not all of 
that is going to be a mega pack,

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but we are excited to continue 
being a leader in the space and 

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transforming the grid to a 
sustainable future. 

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But this transformation is not 
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Global electricity demand is 
projected to increase by 3% 

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annually, driven by 
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and data centers. 
AI data centers alone is 

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projected to make up to 10% of 
the US energy demand by 20-30. 

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This rate of load growth hasn't 
been seen in the US since the 

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early 2000s. 
Load is rapidly growing and to 

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be honest, the grid is not 
growing fast enough to keep up. 

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What's interesting to note is 
that the grid is traditionally 

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built to handle the highest 
demand moments, but for most of 

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the day or even most of the 
year, it is far below capacity. 

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It operates far below capacity. 
Some estimates state that the 

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grid is about 50% utilized here 
in the US and said another way, 

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50% of the grid infrastructure 
sits idle and unused most of the

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year. 
Batteries are are an ideal 

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solution to help the grid 
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Let's just look at this example.
So it's this is an example load 

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over the course of seven days 
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capacity in the dash red line 
and obviously it is greater than

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the load which it should be. 
Now let's add in a new data 

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center load which just shifts 
our entire load up with the peak

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now exceeding the the grid 
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So traditionally this peak wood 
forest the grid to install more 

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infrastructure generation 
transmission substations just to

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serve that new peak. 
It would raise the entire dashed

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line, but it's an intuitive 
conclusion to see that batteries

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could support that peak. 
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increasing the utilization and 
the efficiency of our existing 

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infrastructure. 
So with the growth of renewables

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and the strain on the grid, the 
need for storage is real and we 

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are racing to solve these 
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Our growth with Megapack over 
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exponential. 
We have over 36 GW hours 

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installed across 60 countries 
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And we have another 30 GW hours 
projected to come online soon 

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with product that we have 
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We've scaled our manufacturing 
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hours of manufacturing capacity 
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still have a long ways to go. 
We're just at the beginning as 

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the world needs 2.3 terawatt 
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sustainable energy economy. 
We're up for the challenge. 

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But how do we go faster? 
I'm glad you asked. 

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How do we meet this challenge of
a growing energy demand and 

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strained grid infrastructure? 
We need fully integrated 

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solutions that consider the 
entire scope and the lifetime of

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these projects. 
We need solutions that are 

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secure, scalable, resilient, and
that inspire confidence in the 

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technology. 
And quite simply, we need to 

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figure out how to connect into 
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So when we started developing 
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Megapack, we focused on three 
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and speed. 
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creates risk and it adds delays.
In order to simplify and go 

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faster, we need to figure out 
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upstream in the project #2 we 
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The grids needs and the industry
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And #3 we need to continue what 
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vertical integration. 
We need to enhance the things 

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that we've done well with 
Megapack and learn from our past

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generations of products and 
projects that we've built around

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the world. 
So we're excited to introduce 

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our next generation product, the
next iteration of innovation 

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born from necessity. 
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All right. 
We're excited to announce Mega 

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Block, the latest evolution in 
our industrial storage product 

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lineup. 
This isn't just a new container 

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or a white box with new specs. 
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a plug and play platform, 
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delivered as one all from Tesla 
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stream than we historically 
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Our Mega Block platform is 
designed for 20 MW hours of 

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usable AC energy, a 25 year 
life, 10,000 cycles and with an 

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industry leading round trip 
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So what is Mega Block? 
Let's take a closer look. 

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Mega Block is a pre engineered 
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integrates our next generation 
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We have eliminated the above 
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transformer and the Megapacks 
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assembly. 
So we've essentially made this 

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part of the project now plug and
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Each block connects to a Tesla 
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orchestrates control of the 
entire site of up to hundreds of

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Megapacks. 
We've combined these hardware 

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innovations with the same power 
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software and firmware platforms 
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Megapack generations to reduce 
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seamless technology transition. 
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optimize the product for both 
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of energy per unit mass because 
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breaks. 
We were able to fit 5 MW hours 

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of AC usable energy into 86,000 
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that can be shipped globally. 
We manufacture it in one place 

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to maintain quality and ship a 
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in the world. 
Megapack 3 is optimized for up 

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to 8 hour applications and it 
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carbide, Tesla inverters and our
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The new thermal Bay is 
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It uses the Tesla Model Y heat 
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has 78% fewer connections, which
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We've also also introduced a 
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a larger a larger cell 
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cell and the supply chain a 
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that's a, that's a key component
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Right now. 
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we'll be sourcing cells from the
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making Mega Block a flexible 
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disruptions, policy changes and 
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For example, we made sure that 
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overhauled. 
If we want to introduce a 5 

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liter cell, we have multiple 
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and tested to validate 
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to the medium voltage level. 
Megapack 3 will be manufactured 

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in Houston in late 2026 with a 
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hours per year. 
Mega Block works even in the 

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harshest climates, with an 
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down to -40°C up to 60°, which 
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northern reaches of Alaska and 
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the Atacama Desert in Chile and 
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And one of our core principles, 
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Three with simplicity, it's easy
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And we wanted to avoid that. 
We wanted to do what we did well

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with Megapack 2XL, which was 
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that is factory tested, ship it 
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So that effect, Megapack 3 can 
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And with a higher energy rating,
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the costs and we went from up to
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Megapack and the transformer 
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connections. 
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with 23% less labor hours, up to
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Now it's it's no secret that the
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risky and costly transportation 
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resort to on site assembly, 
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field, validating, integrating, 
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matters is site level density, 
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Said simply, it's, it's, it's 
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your site. 
It's, I'm sorry, it is what you 

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can fit on the site. 
It's not about what you can fit 

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in the box. 
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and our energy, site level, 
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the factory. 
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delivery is an industry leading 
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Commissioning speed. 
Commissioning speed is key. 

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It really is what drives value 
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especially to a lot of people in
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These large capital projects are
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They require hundreds of people 
working across several 

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disciplines over the course of 
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Things that might go wrong 
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process and you need a partner 
that's going to stand by you 

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through the whole process. 
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to Commission one GW hour in 20 
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equivalent of bringing power to 
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month, which is crazy. 
How are we planning to do that? 

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Like most things at Tesla, we 
are ruthlessly attacking every 

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opportunity to save our 
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Simplify the process, remove 
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can. 
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simulation. 
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into a room with our engineers, 
sometimes months before the 

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Megapacks are even delivered to 
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And we can take your actual 
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controls, the actual software 
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Simulate the grid at the exact 

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point in the grid where you will
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simulations, control scenarios, 
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this going to work like I 
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It's essentially a peek into the
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It's a great opportunity to sort
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software and it allows you to 
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mega packs are connected to the 
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Commissioning this fast is a 
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vertical integration, our 
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spectrum allow us to serve our 
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to provide all your needs in one
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full ecosystem has helped our 
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Autobidder is our autonomous 
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It's built all right. 
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learning optimization software 
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So here's an example leaderboard
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revenue per MW installed. 
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this up is that it's This site 
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every market we operate in by 
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our our algorithm. 
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France later this year. 
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software at Investor Day a few 
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how it's going to be the future 
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the way a car's shock absorber 
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have a fully sustainable grid 
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grid forming software. 
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This is simply not true. 
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forming software since 2016. 
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projects, 600 projects across 4 
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online soon. 
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So it works. 
It is the future and we are 

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excited to see how it stabilizes
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All right, Our global service 
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best. 
They're they're, they're the 

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best team in the world. 
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We're super proud of them. 
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last year, they, we, we had 
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around the world. 
And that is a big fleet to 

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maintain above 99%. 
So, yeah, so how how are we 

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doing this? 
Again, it's like everything 

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else, simplify the process, 
remove steps, automate where you

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can. 
We are using automation to 

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detect issues and to trigger our
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around the world. 
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updates that increase the 
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the product over the lifetime of
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the vehicles. 
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engineering team building 
software and hardware service 

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tools that are purpose built for
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quicker and faster and focusing 
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This year we also launched our 
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program. 
This enables our customers and 

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third parties access to all the 
service tools that our internal 

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teams have been using for years.
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Southern Company to take 
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service into their own hands. 
We are excited to bring our full

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software suite and our service 
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And one day, not too distant 
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a field service technician, 
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for our customers. 
Mega Block builds on 10 years of

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project experience around the 
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It is simple, it's fast to 
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get all the integrated service 
and software that you've come to

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love by working with Tesla, 
because with Tesla, and really 

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it's been been like this since 
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program. 
The project is really our 

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product. 
Global power infrastructure is 

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under pressure and we need 
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solutions that can deploy 
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Mega Block accelerates the 
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The people in this room, you 
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world. 
You guys are building the 

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projects. 
You're developing it over the 

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course of a long time and 
investing your money. 

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We are excited to transform. 
We are excited and humbled to 

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transform the grid with you. 
Together, we can deploy the 

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terawatt hours needed to power a
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And tonight, we're excited to 
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upstairs. 
I just want to say thank you to 

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everyone that has made this 
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Thank you for supporting us. 
Thank you for for being partners

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and all these large projects and
for trusting Tesla with those 

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projects. 
Have a great night. 

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