Hey everybody, welcome back to the Elon Musk podcast.
This is a show where we discuss the critical crossroads that
shape SpaceX, Tesla X, the Boring Company and Neurolink.
I'm your host will Walden. On Tuesday, during the House
Oversight Committee meeting, UAP or UFO journalist George Knapp
claimed that Lockheed Martin had stored an unusual material that
was not made from here at a facility in California.
So I want to bring this up because SpaceX and Lockheed
Martin are competitors. They are in the same aerospace
industry. And I want you to hear
everything about all the competitors and also SpaceX on
this show. So I want you to listen to
George Knapp now. George Knapp has been known to,
let's say, exaggerate the truth in the past and has claimed that
there are things that are real that we've never been proven.
So he's the basically like the typical UFO guy that makes their
living by talking about UFOs. And George Knapp seems like a
nice guy. I don't want to throw him under
the bus, but I want you to hear about this quote, unusual
material that was not made here in a facility in California that
George talks about. And I'm not into UFOSII don't, I
don't think they're real. And in a lot of ways, I know
there are unidentified things in the air that probably more than
likely are not from another planet or another solar system
or anything like that. So I want you to take that into
consideration as well when you listen to this.
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George Knapp and just take this all with a grain of skull salt,
OK? Because he's a UFO guy and you
know how they are, right? Take care, everybody.
I now recognize Mr. Knapp for his opening statement.
Good morning, Chairwoman Luna, Ranking Member Miss Crockett,
and members of the task force. And Dina Titus.
I just knew we were going to get you involved in this topic at
one point. Great to see you here.
I'm George Knapp, chief investigator reporter at KLESTV
in Las Vegas. I began my pursuit of this weird
mystery way back in 1987, and for 38 years I've always
approached this as a new story. It's not a matter of faith or
belief. To me, it's a story, and it's an
important one. I'm proud to be here alongside
these witnesses today, men who have seen strange things and
step forward to tell the world about it.
Whistleblowers and witnesses who step up are routinely insulted,
belittled, or worse. They risk their reputations,
their careers, their clearances, their livelihoods, and sometimes
much more than that, even their freedom.
I know that one of the goals of the task force here is to figure
out ways to protect whistleblowers and witnesses.
And it's a tall order because so many of the things that happened
to witnesses like these are extra legal.
They're carried out by persons unknown, as Mr. Dave Grush,
sitting up at the top of the room knows all too well,
including events in recent days to that have happened to him.
I want to share a couple of things that I've I've learned
along the way in this long journey.
And I submitted most of that in written form because I estimate
that my statement here today would take about 4 1/2 hours.
So I'm going to try to jump over and, and touch on the more
important salient points. I submitted the detailed written
statement for the record, and we'll go into a lot of that
here. But the, you know, the public
has been told over and over since the late 40s there's
nothing to worry about here. There.
These mysterious craft seen by millions of people in the skies,
in the oceans, over the land are not real.
They're not a threat. The witnesses are wrong.
They're crackpots. Don't believe it.
That changed for me. What got me hooked is the paper
trail documents that were squeezed out of the US
government after the FOIA Freedom of Information Act
became the law of the land. And those documents paint a much
different picture than what the public, the press, and Congress
have been told over many years. The documents from military and
intelligence personnel behind closed doors admit that, quote,
these things are real, They're not fictitious.
They can fly in formation, they're evasive, and they
outperform any aircraft known to exist, including ours.
The public, of course, as I said, has been told something
much different. You know, back in 1989, I
reported about a guy named Bob Lazar who claimed that he worked
at a facility dubbed S4 out in the Nevada desert very near to
Area 51. He said he was part of a reverse
engineering program. He said there are alien craft
that will be taken apart to figure out how they operated out
there. And that's it was a pretty tall
order. I'd clearly taken a dive into
the deep end of the pool there. But in the years since then,
I've interviewed dozens of other people and I've detailed what
their testimony has been in the written statement.
They include Senator Harry Reid, Senator Howard Cannon, also of
Nevada, guy named Al O'Donnell, who is the first general manager
of EG and G in Nevada, which managed the Nevada Test Site,
which blew up hundreds of nuclear weapons.
There's a guy named Doctor James Lakatsky, who was a career
scientist with the Defense Intelligence Agency, who was the
guy who initiated a program called ASAP Advanced Aerospace
Weapons Systems Application Program, which is as far as we
know, the largest acknowledged UFO program ever funded by the
US government. Which put together an amazing
pile of information that members of this committee and the world,
most of which they have never seen.
The DIA still hasn't released 95% of what was prepared by that
program at a cost of millions and millions of dollars.
The one name I do want to bring up in this section session
though is Robert Bigelow. So looking into the idea of
crash retrievals and reverse engineering.
While at OSAP, that program was active.
The DI as contractor Robert Bigelow of Las Vegas made a bold
attempt to acquire physical proof of UFO crashes.
It's been widely reported and suspected that Lockheed Martin
is one of the contractors. The defense contractors that has
held this stuff stored it away in secrecy and tried to figure
out how it works. I have confirmed on the record
that Robert Bigelow and a trusted colleague from OSAP met
with and negotiated with senior executives at Lockheed Martin
and hammered out a deal where in Bigelow's company, Bass would
receive a quantity of unusual material that had been stashed
away and protected at a facility in California.
That material was not made here. I want to move on now to the
Russia files because that was going to be sort of the central
impetus of what I was going to talk to you about today.
Back in the early 90s, I got into Russia, met with a number
of their defense officials, Ministry of Defense and others
who confirmed for me that Russia had been doing the same thing.
They didn't. the United States had been doing, that is,
secretly studying UFOs while publicly saying something
completely different. The documents and interviews
that I obtained and have now shared with this task force, a
show that the USSR launched what is almost certainly the largest
UFOUAP investigation in the world.
The first phase of that was a order was sent out to the entire
USSR military empire that every unit you see anything strange in
the sky, a craft and orb, something unusual.
You had to gather all the evidence, collect testimony from
the witnesses, look for physical evidence, and all of that
information went into one program at the Ministry of
Defense. Thousands and thousands of these
reports came in. A lot of them were first routed
to the KGB, but then back to another program that came after
this collection effort called Thread 3, and Thread 3 was an
analysis program. We have provided to the
committee the documents of what they were trying to do, and
essentially they were trying to build their own UFOs.
They were using the information from their observations and
studies to try to figure out that technology.
The guy who was in charge of that program, Colonel Boro
Sokolow, told me that their goal was to basically develop
technology that would be superior to anything we had
based on what they learned from UFOs.
Mr. Knapp, just in the name of time, my understanding, did you
have anything you wanted to submit for Congress to see in
this committee? I have submitted those documents
there's. To play.
And at this point, George plays a a video for the people there,
but it's very muffled and hard to hear.
So I couldn't let you hear it because it just didn't come out.
Well, after mastering and checking it out for a while, it
just didn't work out. So just what did you think?
Let me know what you thought in the comments.
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