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Hey there, it's Melissa 
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Mind Your Own Karma podcast. 
Hey there, Karma crew, thanks 

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for joining me for this episode 
of Mind Your Own Karma. 

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Beyond the bandage, have you 
ever felt like you were living 

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someone else's life, maybe 
following rules, roles, or 

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expectations that just didn't 
fit or feel right? 

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What if you could throw all of 
that out the window and finally 

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start showing up as your true 
and apologetic self? 

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Today's guest is here to help 
you do exactly that. 

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I am super excited to welcome 
Megan Lambert to the show, a 

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human design and gene keys guide
who knows first hand what it's 

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like to lose yourself and to 
find your way back home. 

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Through her unique lens, 
including her experience as both

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and an adoptee and a birth 
mother, Megan has embraced the 

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powerful truth that we are not 
broken, but whole. 

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We're just on a journey to 
discover who we truly are. 

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With a blend of intuitive 
insights and grounded tools, 

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Megan helps people move from 
autopilot to authentic living, 

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making deep transformation feel 
more like a homecoming than hard

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work. 
Whether she's decoding energetic

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blueprints, diving into shadow 
work, or sparking those soul 

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deep conversations, Megan's work
is all about celebrating every 

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messy, beautiful step of 
choosing yourself. 

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Today we're talking about how 
human design can support healing

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and self acceptance, how 
deconditioning helps us drop old

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stories, and why personal growth
isn't about fixing yourself. 

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It's about finally seeing who 
you pin all along. 

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Get ready to RIP off the 
bandage, because today's episode

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isn't about becoming someone 
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It's about reclaiming who you 
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Let's dive in. 
We are welcoming Megan Lambert 

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to the show today. 
Hi, Megan. 

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Hi. 
OK. 

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Super excited. 
We're going to be talking about 

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human design today, and Megan 
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Also an adoptee. 
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So we're going to dive into that
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her perspective on her healing 
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And then we're going to talk a 
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know a little bit about, but not
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So I'm glad that you're here to 
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So you've experienced both sides
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as an adoptee and an open as a 
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How has that experience shaped 
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are now? 
Well, with it being closed it, I

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don't think there was even a 
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80s when I was born and 
especially in the location I was

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born, I was born and adopted in 
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So like I'm 100% Filipino. 
I was adopted into a white 

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military American family. 
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dynamic of one on. 
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Like it was even a possibility 
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then, especially where I was at.
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really bother me that it was 
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heard multiple people say, you 
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where like, you know, they had 
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There was no choice for me. 
It was like this is it like, OK,

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it was easy for me to accept 
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So then when I became a birth 
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opportunity, hey, do you want to
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to open one because I don't want
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questions that I had and wonder 
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So that was like my perspective 
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So I just like so grateful to 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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Are you still in touch with your
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Yes, actually, we have the most 
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I've kept in touch with him. 
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couple of years, because we were
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Like I said, I was a military 
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practically every nine months. 
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And then in the middle years, 
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questioning, OK, I know I'm a 
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the right to like check in and 
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I was close adoption experienced
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Thankfully, like I was blessed 
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family that I picked for him. 
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family. 
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amazing relationship with that 
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Recently, he just graduated from
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come? 
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they're like, you want to stay 
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I'm like, yeah, let's go. 
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go there once a year over the 
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And, you know, we get together 
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And then I want to say just 
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graduated, I met actually met a 
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family. 
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like we're talking me and my 
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hanging out, we're cracking 
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with his cousins. 
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aunts and his uncles, and 
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so fascinating to see this 
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your birth son. 
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like, well, isn't this how most 
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adoptions work? 
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And I was just like, mind blown 
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No. 
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Like, that was so new to me. 
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And they're like, thank you for,
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still open to this and not, you 
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for us or and we're not making 
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I know he's like 18 at this time
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Yeah, yeah, that's so true. 
I hear stories all the time 

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about it's mostly how the 
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through on whatever was set in 
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birth parent really has no 
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take to enforce that. 
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track of their child's even 
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open. 
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Crazy. 
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that I was like, I had no idea. 
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work so well, it's the fact that
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So like I can understand. 
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questions like, hey, yes, they 
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went into adoption just to get 
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they could, which versus when my
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was adopted, like there was no 
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And now I'm like, OK, this is 
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But anytime that they had like a
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we can we pick your brain about 
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that I was adopted. 
Like how do you feel about this?

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Just getting that kind of 
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went about it with their, you 
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And I was just like, wow, you 
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So was that something that the 
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was that something that they 
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this? 
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that. 
They had when I had picked them,

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they had had already adopted 
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having an adopted child that 
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provided, you know, their other 
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OK, let's try this route. 
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you know? 
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like, forthcoming with, you 
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perspective and, you know, 
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OK, yes, this is legally my 
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there is an attachment that's 
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birth child with birth mom that 
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some way, shape or form, which 
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And I was like, oh, you guys are
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That's awesome. 
I'm glad to hear that. 

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Maybe things are starting to 
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starting to get educated about 
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child, you know, instead of just
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family. 
There's this other little person

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over here that's going through 
some stuff, you know? 

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especially, you know, Doctor and
adopted, it's really important 

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to understand that there is a 
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No matter how hard you try to 
break it, regardless of the 

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experience of how you even 
receive this child, there is a 

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bond. 
And the more you try to like, 

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I'm a deconditioning coach, the 
more you try to make these 

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conditions to like form this 
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you as a parent, as in a, what 
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parent. 
The adoptive parent. 

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The adoptive parents, yes, no 
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there's still going to be this 
aspect that you can't like 

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condition it's there so. 
Yeah, amazing. 

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We could, we could have an all 
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that good stuff. 
Yes. 

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So you say you embrace the truth
about everything and I'm like, 

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everything is in air quotes 
right now. 

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What does that mean to you and 
how did that shift your healing 

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journey? 
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asked us like everybody's like, 
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I'm like because I am everything
that I need to be at every 

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moment. 
So like we all try to play or 

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stay in this one lane. 
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that or think that the way to be
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happy, you have to stay in this 
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And like, this epiphany came to 
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diving, doing some healing on 
understanding my human design 

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and get my charts and whatnot, 
that I'm like, no, I'm 

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everything and everybody is 
everything. 

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It's just OK, what is your 
everything in that moment? 

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It doesn't have to match what 
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or maybe a decade ago. 
I am everything that I need to 

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be in every moment. 
So that's a good mantra. 

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Yeah, everybody should write 
that on a sticky note. 

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Stick it on their mirror. 
Yes, yes. 

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And I like to remind people I'm 
like, no, you're exactly who you

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need to be at every moment, so 
embrace that. 

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That's awesome. 
That's awesome. 

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So today we're kind of focusing 
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So for listeners who might not 
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break down what human design is?
OK, so human design is a mixture

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of four different things. 
It is the chakra system, 

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astrology, the I Ching and the 
Kabbalah. 

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I like to to Mickey Mouse 
Clubhouse it down for people and

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I say it is the personality test
without the personality, like 

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without the test, like it gives 
you pretty much your blueprint 

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on how you effortlessly live 
your life, how you were meant to

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move and flow and interact and 
be in this life. 

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And that's how I explain it. 
And I'm like, whatever questions

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that you have about yourself, I 
bet actually, no, I know for a 

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fact that I can look at your 
chart and say this, This is why 

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or this is how, or this is what.
We already know The Who. 

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So it just answers the 
questions. 

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So that does do you go by 
birthday and like certain? 

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It is your birthday place and 
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And so when you plug all that 
information, it gives you a 

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chart that has nine different 
centers and some of them will be

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colored in, some of them will 
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Some of them have, like, gates, 
but it's open, but it's not 

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defined. 
It's just there. 

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There's so much that goes into 
it, but it's so fascinating. 

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If you jump into this and you 
like, plug in, a lot of people 

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will be like, what am I looking 
at? 

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It's overwhelming. 
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So I like to, like, take baby 
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And I always tell people like, 
hey, try not to go in too deep 

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too fast because you're supposed
to embody a little bit at a 

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time. 
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acknowledge, oh, this is who I 
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doesn't happen overnight, y'all.
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Do some people like flat out 

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like that's not me like or do 
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like conditioned to be a certain
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it's like, well, wait a minute, 
that doesn't, that doesn't 

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resonate with me is do you ever 
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Like I, I, I did a workshop one 
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started this just just to see 
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And one person there's the solar
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design and even as well as the 
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plexus emotions and whatnot. 
The I, they were like someone 

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had a defined solar plexus and I
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means you feel a lot. 
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no, I don't. 
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their chart a little deeper. 
I said, oh, This is why you were

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conditioned to believe and like,
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Like. 
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something when people are like, 
no, that's not me. 

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And then I go in and I'm like, 
well, here it is. 

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This person made you turn this 
off. 

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This is why it had helped me 
through my, you know, 

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deconditioning when, like, 
finding who I was when, you 

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know, I stepped into my family 
or not stepped. 

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I was kind of just given, yeah, 
like here. 

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Yeah. 
Like, understanding who I was 

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versus who they wanted me to be 
and why it didn't work out. 

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I've spent decades trying to, 
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like, heal all this stuff and be
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This is not comfortable. 
But once I like, looked at it, I

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was like, oh, because I was 
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mold. 
That is why, yeah, I had people 

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be like, well, I don't do that. 
And so when I give them homework

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after I tell them, they're like.
Oh, it's all. 

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Coming together now, yeah. 
That's cool, that's cool. 

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Well, how did you come across 
Human Design and what was it 

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that resonated to you about it? 
I was actually, I just got done 

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with hypnotherapy and my 
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and she was like, hey, I need 
you to listen to this episode on

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a podcast, the podcast that she 
does. 

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And I was like, OK, but, and 
then I got addicted to her 

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podcast that I like started 
scrolling and finding and I was 

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like human design. 
Last time I tried to step into 

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human design, it just wasn't for
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But this time, like the way she 
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was saying, I was like, that's 
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And so I was like, OK, so that's
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Because when I was doing the 
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why I was doing hypnotherapy was
there was a voice in my head 

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that was living there for like 
my whole life that I wanted to 

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get rid of. 
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So I was like, let's try 
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So I did that. 
And then like going into human 

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design, it made me understand, 
oh, this why? 

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This is why this person has been
living in my head for like my 

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whole life. 
I'm like, OK, now I even know 

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how to, like, decipher that it's
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And also tell her to shut up and
move out. 

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Like here's your eviction 
notice. 

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Yeah, go be gone. 
So. 

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Yeah, so. 
The combination of hypnotherapy 

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and human design helped you kind
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Yeah, it was. 
My, it was my stepping stone 

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into giving myself permission to
invite other people into my 

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healing journey because for a 
while I was doing it by myself. 

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I have no problem like facing 
things that I know I need to 

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face and like working through 
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But there was a point in time in
my life where I've done all that

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I could and I'm like, I can't. 
I can't. 

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And that's when spirit was like,
hey, it's time to invite 

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somebody in. 
You can't do this anymore by 

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yourself. 
You've got to let somebody in. 

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And I was, luckily this person 
came along and I was just like 

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you, you, you're good, which is 
tough to. 

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Do as an adoptee, I mean, you 
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are like very closed off to 
asking for help or, you know, 

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yeah. 
Oh. 

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Yeah, it's tough. 
Yeah, it is very. 

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Tough like being a how I was 
adopted, you know, I I I went 

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from, you know, being in my 
mother's boon and then entering 

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into this world and I believe I 
was with six different families 

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before I ended up with the 
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And so like I did all this and 
it was just like they had 

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already had this dynamic within 
their family because I'm the 

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only one that's adopted out of 
the five kids that my parents 

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have. 
And so it was just like, This is

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why they were like, OK, why 
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And I'm like because because I 
and I, I did it in the nicest 

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way possible and I wasn't trying
to be mean to my mom, but I was 

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like, because you did not birth 
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I am not I logically yours. 
You may have raised me, but you 

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did not birth me. 
So. 

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Yeah, so I was told they they 
would be like, oh, you need to 

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be more like, you know, your 
siblings or you need to shut 

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that off like, and I'm not. 
And I'd be like, no, like what? 

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What's wrong with you? 
And I, I always thought I was 

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the problem. 
For the longest time. 

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I was like, OK, it's me. 
It's me. 

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It's because, you know, I'm 
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And so many times I've tried to 
like condition myself to be like

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them, but I couldn't like it 
would just seriously, our bodies

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are are like secret. 
It holds our secrets. 

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So when things aren't working, 
you start getting all these body

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aches and things. 
And so the more I tried, the 

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more my body would shut down and
I'd just be like, this isn't 

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working. 
So when I finally was like, OK, 

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I'm done. 
I can't do this anymore. 

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The the shock that my body went 
through was like, oh, it's about

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time. 
It is. 

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About thank. 
You finally. 

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Thank you. 
Oh. 

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Yeah, it's pretty crazy. 
So personally, what, how, how 

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did human design support you in 
finding your authenticity and 

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like in what ways? 
And I bet you finding that was 

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so freeing. 
It was, yeah. 

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OK, so like I had said, I 
thought I always was the problem

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and the more and the deeper I 
went in and was understanding 

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the different parts of myself, 
human design showed me that I 

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wasn't wrong. 
Like all the things that I 

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thought I was wrong about myself
showed me, no, that's who you 

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were meant to be. 
This is a part of you. 

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You can't change it now. 
Like human design, it's a fixed 

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thing. 
You can't change it. 

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And so knowing that it's like, 
OK, this is me. 

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I, I finally get to take these 
pieces, understand them 

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implement into my life because 
like I've been conditioned to 

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either turn it off, shut it off 
or hold it in one or the other. 

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And now I get to like activate 
it, reawaken it and start 

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feeling the the ease that I've 
always meant. 

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I mean, we're all supposed to 
feel eased the ease that we're 

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meant to feel in life. 
The acceptance because I finally

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have been sitting in a place 
where I can fully accept myself,

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all parts of it. 
I know I'm, I did things that I 

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probably wouldn't know. 
I know for a fact I wasn't 

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supposed to do. 
I mean, we're human. 

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We're supposed to. 
So like I can actually accept 

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those parts of me and sit with 
it. 

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But I don't feel shame anymore. 
I don't feel guilty anymore. 

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I feel so proud of all parts of 
me. 

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Like, regardless of what 
happened to me, like I probably 

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would do it every single thing 
that I went through and done 

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over again because I don't think
I would be here today if I never

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did. 
And I just had this conversation

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with my husband. 
He's like, are you OK? 

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I was like, you know what? 
I think I would do. 

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It all over again. 
OK. 

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I was just thinking as you were 
talking. 

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How 'cause we you use birthday 
and time of birth and, and 

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things like that. 
After talking to so many 

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adoptees over the last couple 
years, there's a lot of adoptees

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that have a wrong birthday on 
their birth certificates. 

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Yeah. 
So like they'll find out later 

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that that was not their birthday
or they don't know really when 

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their birthday was. 
They'll they'll get in contact 

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with their birth mother finally 
and like, Oh yeah, I just wrote 

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that day down 'cause I couldn't 
really remember what day you 

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were born or whatever. 
Yeah. 

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So that would really, Yeah. 
That's another thing people 

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don't don't think about, Yeah. 
I didn't know my birth time and 

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because I'm so intuitive and I I
have this connection to spirit, 

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I actually had to do a deep 
meditation to figure out what 

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time I was born. 
And I think that's why I haven't

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really messed with human design,
because I was like, I don't even

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know that. 
Yeah, so. 

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Like I, I thought I was born at 
this time and when I looked at 

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the chart, I was like, no, that 
doesn't seem right. 

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But then like when I did this, 
went into this deep meditation 

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and was like, the numbers showed
up for me and I was like plugged

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it in and did some like deep 
dive into it. 

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I was like, that's me. 
Wow, that is so me. 

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That's. 
Crazy. 

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So your website mentioned shadow
work and you were talking about 

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deconditioning. 
How do those practices implement

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or complement human design? 
OK. 

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So shadow work and 
deconditioning. 

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They're often paired together as
twins and when really they're 

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like distance cousins because, 
you know, shadow work is all 

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about, you know, going through 
your attic or basement, 

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depending where you're living. 
I live in Texas. 

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We can't have basements. 
You go through your attic 

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because there's so much stuff 
piling on that you have no 

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choice but to like face it and 
whatnot. 

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Whereas like deconditioning is 
when you get, when you actually 

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look at the whole house as a 
whole. 

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And so when you have like human 
design, you know, you can look 

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at the human design chart and 
say, OK, these are where my 

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shadows are hiding. 
Like this is where all I will 

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say majority of the open 
undefined centers are where your

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shadows are hiding, where you 
have to face it because open 

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centers define or undefined 
centers, that's where you're 

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more apt to take in other 
people's things and also hold in

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like trauma and whatnot. 
If it's defined, I will say 

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this, you have more control on 
what goes in and what comes out.

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So whereas deconditioning, you 
actually can see exactly where 

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you're conditioned the most. 
It can be either in a gate or a 

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channel, whichever or an 
undefined open center. 

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And with conditioning, the thing
that I love about conditioning 

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is that you get to choose 
whether to keep the condition or

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not. 
And you can also like, let's say

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this condition that somebody 
offered or provided you or you 

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just decided to take in. 
It doesn't have to stay like 

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it's just there for that moment.
And then you can say, you know 

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what, I want to change it. 
Like I said earlier, you think 

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of deconditioning as looking at 
the whole house. 

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It's like somebody gave you this
house or gave you their 

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blueprint, and they started 
creating the rooms and building 

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the house how they think you 
should live it. 

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Like, let's say the living room 
was built by your family and the

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kitchen was built by some maybe 
your friend or or like school or

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whatever. 
And then your study room was 

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built by your like mentors and 
teachers and whatever. 

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So you get to go into the house 
and say, you know what? 

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I don't like this room. 
I want to turn this room into 

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something else. 
Or you know what? 

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I like the color of the wall, 
but I hate the window, so I'm 

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going to change the window. 
That's what it all is. 

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That's how it plays. 
And that's like what human 

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design goes in. 
And it's like saying, oh, 

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there's an open space. 
Do I want to fill this open 

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space or do I want to like take 
it out? 

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So that's how. 
Works. 

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I. 
It's funny you bring up the 

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house, 'cause I always kind of 
use that analogy for 

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generational traumas and, and 
things like that is, you know, 

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you move into the family home 
and it's like, OK, that window's

449
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,520
been broken for, you know, 5 
generations now. 

450
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,080
You can choose to leave it that 
way, or you can choose to fix 

451
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,840
it. 
You know exactly. 

452
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,560
Yeah. 
So that's kind of cool. 

453
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,680
It's a. 
Great analogy. 

454
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,120
It's a great analogy. 
I love to use that analogy. 

455
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,160
So when you work with clients, 
what does the process look like 

456
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,760
when they come to you? 
When they come to me, I first 

457
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:43,720
like to have them acknowledge 
their reality and when I say 

458
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:48,920
their reality, how they perceive
their reality not. 

459
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,160
And I tried. 
I'm like, hey, listen, I don't 

460
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,400
want you to think what other 
people think. 

461
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520
I want you to completely be 
open, honest with yourself, 

462
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:02,280
because the key to 
deconditioning and even healing,

463
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,880
no matter what you're doing is 
acknowledging what you see and 

464
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:12,120
what you feel like. 
Underline that you nobody else's

465
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:17,840
perception but Jerome. 
And so once like they finally 

466
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,200
have this aha moment of, oh 
crap, this is how I built and 

467
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,400
created my life, that that's 
when everything starts to be 

468
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,360
like, OK, yeah, you're right. 
I, I don't want to do this 

469
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,960
anymore. 
And so once they step into that,

470
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,880
they're like, stuff happens 
really fast, really fast for 

471
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200
them once they start 
acknowledging it. 

472
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,760
And we can like go in and be 
like, OK, well, this is the 

473
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,640
thing that I want to change. 
I want to keep this, but I, I 

474
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,360
want to change this. 
And so we start playing around 

475
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,480
with how they want to play with 
it, especially looking at their 

476
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,200
chart, because the first thing 
that I like to do other than, 

477
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,000
you know, have them acknowledge 
their reality is like we go over

478
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,600
their, their energy type and 
their strategy and also their 

479
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,640
authority. 
Because those are the top three 

480
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:19,640
things that I'm like, hey, we, 
we really need to hone down on 

481
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,800
this because this is going to 
support you on transitioning or 

482
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,800
deconstructing whatever it is 
that you want to deconstruct. 

483
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,360
Then we go into looking at where
they've been the most popular 

484
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,280
place where they're able to be 
conditioned. 

485
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:42,120
And so once they can acknowledge
where they're easily to be 

486
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:47,240
conditioned, they have that 
awareness that they're like, Oh,

487
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,440
I don't have to take that in. 
And it becomes a lot easier for 

488
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,720
them. 
So they love it. 

489
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,600
Cause the moment that they're 
like, Oh, this is the, this is 

490
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,160
where I can be conditioned, but 
they're open to the condition, 

491
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,360
but they know that they don't 
have to take it. 

492
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,160
Like they can leave it there and
be like it's like taking. 

493
00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,200
Your power back like realize, 
you know, you don't know what 

494
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,880
you don't know or what you're, 
you know. 

495
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,960
So once you're like, oh, that 
makes sense, you know? 

496
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,840
You're like getting. 
Your power back, you're able to 

497
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,120
make that boundary or do 
whatever you have to do to kind 

498
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,560
of manage it or choose, you 
know, like now I can choose 

499
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,520
whether I want that or not. 
So yeah. 

500
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,400
That's exactly what it is. 
It's, it's, it's, it's 

501
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:39,680
fascinating to watch people you 
know from the start like this is

502
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:42,360
their reality. 
And then then they start 

503
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:47,000
discovering pieces of themselves
and then they're like, wait. 

504
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,560
I believe that. 
I see you can leave that, like 

505
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,560
right there. 
Yes, right there. 

506
00:33:55,000 --> 00:34:02,480
One client of mine, we were 
working on the mindset of 

507
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:07,680
prosperity and I was using human
Design and Gene Keys at this 

508
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:11,239
point in time. 
But I was like, hey, when we 

509
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,360
think of prosperity, y'all think
of money when really it's your 

510
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,400
relationship with the tangible 
things. 

511
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:21,639
If you can touch it, if you can 
see it, that's prosperity. 

512
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:28,400
And so she was, I was getting, 
we were going deep into her 

513
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,920
unconscious Mars. 
And her unconscious Mars had to 

514
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:39,440
do with, you know, the now. 
And I was just like, hey, what's

515
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,159
your issue right now? 
She's like, I have a hard time 

516
00:34:42,159 --> 00:34:46,080
saying no. 
And I'm like, OK, here's your 

517
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,880
homework. 
And so she did it. 

518
00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,880
And she has, she calls me a lot.
She says, guess what I use? 

519
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,320
I said you use the word no. 
She's like. 

520
00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:01,840
Yes, and it feels so good. 
I'm like, yay, It's funny how 

521
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,200
just as simple as things like I 
can do that. 

522
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,320
I'm allowed to like, say no to 
people like well. 

523
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:11,160
But here's the thing, and I know
there's a lot of people pleasers

524
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,040
out there. 
I remember covering peaceful 

525
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
pleaser. 
So guilty as charged. 

526
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:22,440
No, these are no is really hard,
but the only reason why it's 

527
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:28,080
hard for us to say no is because
we don't, we never have given. 

528
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:32,120
I don't want to say never. 
We have yet given ourselves the 

529
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:37,160
permission or the opportunity to
flow through all the emotions, 

530
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:42,800
the action of the word no and 
get to the other side 'cause you

531
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,720
haven't experienced the other 
side. 

532
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,240
Allow yourself to experience the
other side of no. 

533
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,960
And it gets easier. 
Yeah. 

534
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:56,480
And so it's just like, no, no. 
Feels so good. 

535
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,360
I'm like, I know, right? 
Yeah, I think. 

536
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,560
We don't check in with 
ourselves. 

537
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,720
I mean, I was that way, 
especially when I first started 

538
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:07,240
this podcast and I was getting 
spread so thin 'cause I wasn't 

539
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:11,800
saying no to anything. 
And you know, when I started, 

540
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,760
'cause I just didn't, I didn't 
feel good at first, you know, 

541
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,200
'cause I just felt like I can't 
let these people down. 

542
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680
They, they, you know, they're 
asking me to do this thing, but 

543
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,080
I wouldn't even check in. 
I, the yes was coming out of my 

544
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:25,960
mouth before I even like, how do
I even feel about that? 

545
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,200
You know, And it was already the
yes was already out there. 

546
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,160
And I was like, now I gotta do 
that. 

547
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,840
I bet. 
You have, when it comes to human

548
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,480
design, the way you're speaking,
I bet you have a defined solar 

549
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,600
plexus. 
And when it comes to the defined

550
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,720
solar plexus, you have to ride 
that wave of emotions before you

551
00:36:46,720 --> 00:36:50,120
can even answer. 
I have a defined solar plexus, 

552
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:55,280
and I've had to learn how to 
honor time. 

553
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,720
Like, hey, if somebody's going 
to ask me to do something, 

554
00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,440
they're going to have to wait 
and if they want it done, they 

555
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,480
better go ask somebody else 
because I'm not going to tell 

556
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,880
you right then and there. 
And I will say this like 

557
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,400
deconditioning from giving 
people an answer right then and 

558
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,640
there. 
I mean, it's hard. 

559
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,800
Y'all 'cause you like, part of 
you wants to say yes there, but 

560
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,240
then there's another part of you
who says I really don't want to,

561
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,520
but I know that they're going to
be. 

562
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,520
Or here's the thing, you put in 
your mind that there's going to 

563
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:32,440
be all these things that's going
to backfire. 

564
00:37:34,240 --> 00:37:37,640
And. 
No, if you actually do listen to

565
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:42,320
what your guess and your no is, 
depending what your authority 

566
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:48,720
is, especially in human design, 
it actually works out for the 

567
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,960
best. 
Like yes, I may take well, I 

568
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:57,360
don't say I take my time. 
I recognize the fact that I need

569
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:03,080
to hold off before I answer 
because even if I do say yes, 

570
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,280
which I know for a lot of people
who do have a define sacral, 

571
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,840
they immediately, if they, if 
it's something that they're 

572
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,720
excited about on impulse, you're
going to say yes. 

573
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,360
But by the time you get there, 
you're going to be like, why did

574
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:22,320
I say yes? 
I don't even want to do it, but 

575
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,280
that's where the whole waiting 
and it feeling all the feels 

576
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:32,560
like I have to feel the high and
the low before I level out and 

577
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,160
say, OK, what is it that I want 
to do? 

578
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,400
So I have to feel both of them. 
That's great. 

579
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,200
Homework though, for somebody to
just, you know, don't don't say 

580
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,240
yes or no in the moment, just 
you know, so I'll get back to 

581
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:51,600
you in a few days or whatever, 
but that's great homework for 

582
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,120
people that are people pleasers 
to kind of give that space to 

583
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,400
really feel it out before before
you commit my. 

584
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,560
Husband has an undefined solar 
plexus. 

585
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,120
He's a he's pure in what what he
is. 

586
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,440
He's a pure manifesting 
generator. 

587
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,960
So when it comes to his 
authority, I'm like your yes and

588
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:16,520
no is in that moment. 
So don't get in your head 

589
00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:18,520
because you know there's the 
people who will get in their 

590
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,240
head and be like, do I want it? 
I'm like, no, it's going to tell

591
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:24,920
you right then and there. 
Is it a guess or no? 

592
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,840
And so he's like, he takes that 
into account now. 

593
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,440
And he's like, I don't want to 
do it. 

594
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:32,800
I said, OK, you don't have to do
it. 

595
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,840
He's like, OK, that's it. 
I said, yeah, that's it. 

596
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:38,560
That's it. 
That's all you got to do. 

597
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,720
It's that simple. 
It's that. 

598
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,440
Simple. 
So what are some misconceptions 

599
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,360
or challenges that you see 
commonly that people face when 

600
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,400
they start exploring their human
design? 

601
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:55,960
The thing that I see most 
commonly is that people tend to 

602
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:01,800
go way too deep into it. 
Like they'll try, they can take 

603
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,520
on, you know, they'll take on 
their energy type, the strategy,

604
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,040
their authority, but they also 
try to take on the other parts 

605
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,600
of it that it becomes 
overwhelming that they haven't. 

606
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,920
Pivot like they're trying to do 
a 360 instead of like a slight 

607
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,360
pivot like that's all you need 
to do for now. 

608
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,000
So I've seen people crash and 
burn be like, no, I gave up 

609
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,120
because it was too much. 
I'm like, well, did you like 

610
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
what? 
I asked them what, what, what is

611
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,600
it that you did? 
And they're like, well, I did 

612
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,680
this, this and this. 
And I'm like. 

613
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,480
No. 
That is a lot I said for now, 

614
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:46,440
just get to know. 
I always tell them identify your

615
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,720
yes and no first. 
That's like the first thing you 

616
00:40:49,720 --> 00:40:52,400
need to do is your yes and your 
no. 

617
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:58,880
And then and of course live out 
your energy type and and 

618
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:03,560
authority, but like your yes and
your no, that's important. 

619
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,480
Do that first, because people, 
most people, actually all 

620
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:11,960
people, have a difficulty with 
their yes and no. 

621
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,800
Yeah, that's so true. 
Can you share a moment when 

622
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:22,440
understanding your own human 
design chart that led to like a 

623
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,960
major shift or a breakthrough 
for you? 

624
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,440
Yes. 
So when I was looking at my 

625
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:33,000
chart and I was in a workshop 
with another human design reader

626
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,960
who was just like, hey, you want
to try this out? 

627
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,840
I'm like, yeah, let's do it. 
She was speaking into the 

628
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,120
definitions of human design and 
what a definition is, how your 

629
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:48,520
close centers connect when you 
have like all your clothes 

630
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,520
centers connect you, that means 
you like learn really, really 

631
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,720
fast. 
Like you don't need anybody to 

632
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,680
fill in the blanks for you. 
And so me, I have a triple 

633
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:02,040
split, so I have three. 
Oh boy, that. 

634
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:03,640
Sounds complicated. 
Yeah, I was. 

635
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:08,000
Like I got three islands of 
define centers that are spread 

636
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:12,480
out that aren't connected. 
And she she was saying she goes,

637
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:19,720
here's the thing with triple 
splits is that they don't need 

638
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:23,200
people like everybody else needs
people. 

639
00:42:23,720 --> 00:42:29,720
And I was like, wait, so you're 
telling me that I don't have to 

640
00:42:29,720 --> 00:42:33,840
be connected all the time? 
She's like, what do you mean? 

641
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:40,280
I, I would get, I'm the type of 
person who gets overwhelmed or 

642
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,360
drained really easily being 
connected to people all the 

643
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,520
time. 
And I, I would lose friends 

644
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,160
because they'd be like, it's 
like you just shut off. 

645
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:54,560
And I would shut off for months,
OK, if I was connected when I 

646
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,240
did the yoga teacher training, I
was probably plugged into this 

647
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,760
group of women doing the teacher
training for nine months. 

648
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:06,000
So when I came out of it, I was 
like done. 

649
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,520
I was like, I can't like, I'm 
I'm glad, I'm grateful, but I 

650
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,280
need to unplug. 
I need to detach from y'all. 

651
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,920
So when she said you are the 
type of person who just needs to

652
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,720
be around people for a short 
amount of time and not plug in 

653
00:43:23,720 --> 00:43:26,640
all the time, you need to be 
able to detach yourself from 

654
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,040
them. 
You don't have to interact with 

655
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,320
anybody. 
Just go put yourself in a room 

656
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,120
that's full of people and you'll
be good. 

657
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:39,560
That way you can walk away and 
you don't have to like worry or 

658
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:44,320
overthink. 
And I'm like, so it wasn't me. 

659
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,360
I thought I was a horrible 
friend because I would detach. 

660
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:53,640
I would wouldn't go, I wouldn't 
call, I wouldn't do text. 

661
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:59,360
I'm not a big texter. 
And so like now, after I had 

662
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,760
lost a really good friend due to
it, I would warn people and be 

663
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:08,600
like, hey, just so you know, I'm
a person who detaches really 

664
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:13,760
easy and I sometimes detach for 
a very long time. 

665
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,800
This is just a heads up. 
And I was like, it's not that I 

666
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:21,440
don't care about you, it's just 
that for my mental state and for

667
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,560
my health, I have to do that. 
And like this is before I even 

668
00:44:25,560 --> 00:44:28,600
knew about the whole triple 
split because I was like, please

669
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:33,800
don't pressure me with making me
check in on you when I need to 

670
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:36,000
check in on myself. 
Yes. 

671
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:40,960
And so like when she said that I
was like, that makes sense. 

672
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:44,200
That's a very. 
Common thing with adoptees as 

673
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,680
well. 
And I'm wondering if there's a, 

674
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,360
there's like a common thread in 
human design and like some of 

675
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,560
these major channels or 
whatever, I don't even know what

676
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,360
you would call them that most 
adoptees have. 

677
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,000
Because as you know, a lot of 
the things you're touching, I'm 

678
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,200
like, oh gosh, that's like an 
adoptee thing. 

679
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,360
That's an adoptee thing. 
So that's kind of interesting 

680
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,280
and you know. 
What I would love to actually do

681
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,880
some kind of research I know 
wouldn't. 

682
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:11,680
That be cool experiment I'm. 
Like let me have your chart in 

683
00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:16,680
your chart just to see if it's. 
Familiar some common you know 

684
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,560
hits there. 
It's interesting I'm. 

685
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaking into something 
audience, I know. 

686
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,080
Shameless plug there. 
So what do you think your life 

687
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,720
would look like if you'd hadn't 
discovered human design? 

688
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:36,720
I probably still would be 
fighting the voices in my head 

689
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:43,040
and not and I probably would not
be able to acknowledge like the 

690
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:47,320
parts of me that I've been 
holding in for so long. 

691
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,960
Because it really, I will say 
each time I look at my chart and

692
00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:57,360
discover something different, it
allows me to bring that part of 

693
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:03,480
me up and actually look at it 
comfortably and accept it and be

694
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:07,400
like, OK, that is a part of me. 
I'm OK with that. 

695
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,200
Like I have no shame anymore. 
I probably still would be silent

696
00:46:12,720 --> 00:46:18,280
because a lot of what where I 
was conditioned was in my 

697
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,240
throat. 
My, my, my throat center. 

698
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:26,080
I have a very I it's an 
undefined 1. 

699
00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:30,800
So like being silent, like I'm, 
I'm going to be a little 

700
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:36,920
personal here. 
My, when I decided to be a 

701
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,000
little more open, I was testing 
the waters of my voice. 

702
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,160
I decided to open up about my, 
my past trauma because all the 

703
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,880
clients that I've had, they're 
like, why don't you ever tell 

704
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:54,520
your story? 
And I was like, because I don't 

705
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:58,440
know how to like. 
It only naturally comes out when

706
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:04,040
I'm working with somebody 
because for them to trust me, 

707
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,040
they also have to know and 
understand, Hey, I do understand

708
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:13,600
where you're coming from. 
So like I decided to do a video,

709
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:19,400
a podcast video, first attempt, 
y'all doing a YouTube video of 

710
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,600
sharing my story. 
And my mom ended up getting a 

711
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:28,040
hold of it and I wasn't hiding 
anything whatsoever. 

712
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:34,440
She took it as me attacking her 
and she and we were, we worked 

713
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,120
hard on our relationship. 
OK. 

714
00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,080
I thought we were in a good, 
really good place for me to be 

715
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:46,240
able to like speak and say 
because she had acknowledged 

716
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:49,440
what she had done to me and she 
had said sorry. 

717
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,320
And I, you know, vice versa. 
I know I didn't help the 

718
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:58,720
situation when I was growing up.
So I thought, OK, cool, I, I can

719
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:02,200
talk about it. 
No, she, I think she only heard 

720
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,600
half and she didn't hear the 
other half. 

721
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,400
And so she ended up stepping 
away from me and kind of like 

722
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,080
saying, you know what, I can't 
talk to you right now. 

723
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:17,480
I kind of have to press pause on
this relationship that we have. 

724
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:24,080
And so it I took it as so you 
don't want me to speak kind of 

725
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,480
thing. 
And like, and that's the whole 

726
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,640
reason why I didn't share is 
because they didn't want to hurt

727
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,760
my mom. 
We were finally in a good place 

728
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,960
and I was like, OK, now I got to
protect this relationship. 

729
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,480
And so knowing that my throat 
center is undefined and looking 

730
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:46,080
at my human design chart that 
I'm like, oh, that's, that's, 

731
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:50,000
that's where it's held. 
That is where my biggest 

732
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:55,480
conditioning is to like I I've 
been told by multiple healers, 

733
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:57,080
they're like, why aren't you 
using your voice? 

734
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:02,680
So I'm like, because nobody, 
nobody taught me how to use the 

735
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:03,480
voice. 
OK? 

736
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,920
I've been, I they just told me, 
hey, speak when, when spoken to.

737
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,480
If you're spoken to, you're 
going to answer this way and 

738
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:14,560
you're only going to give this 
much information. 

739
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,240
That is how I was taught to use 
my voice. 

740
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,920
So I did that. 
So yeah, that's where. 

741
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:26,440
And, and so now that we're not, 
we haven't spoken since like 

742
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:31,800
it's been a year now. 
And I, I, I think I told you 

743
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:36,920
earlier before this even 
recording, is that I am now 

744
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:42,960
deconditioning and, and 
currently embodying the openness

745
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,600
of my voice. 
So I'm now being more open, 

746
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:52,160
regardless of how somebody might
feel, 'cause their feelings, 

747
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:54,640
they're not. 
Your responsibility? 

748
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,640
Yeah, they're not my. 
Responsibility. 

749
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,920
I can no longer protect other 
people's peace. 

750
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:02,000
I can only protect my own. 
Yeah. 

751
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:06,160
So Yep. 
Again, a very common adoptee 

752
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:08,760
thing. 
You'll have to I'll. 

753
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,560
Have to give you my chart and 
we'll have to see if there's 

754
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,360
some common ground things 
because again, like there it's 

755
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,840
just it's yeah, I'm just 
curious, you know I. 

756
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:18,840
Would love. 
I will. 

757
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:20,760
I'm you know what? 
I'm gonna totally get your 

758
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,960
information after this. 
So yeah, get a few. 

759
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:28,080
Get a few other ones and just 
see cause yeah, I think there's 

760
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:30,320
a lot in common. 
It would be interesting to see 

761
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,160
how that comes out. 
So you also do gene keys. 

762
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:36,240
Can you just kind of lightly 
touch on what that is OK. 

763
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,160
Yes, I do. 
Also Gene Keys. 

764
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:43,120
So human design is your divine 
masculine, while Gene Keys is 

765
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,120
your divine feminine. 
You need them both. 

766
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,920
But I like to say that you got 
into embody the divine masculine

767
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,920
before you can like even touch 
on your. 

768
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,720
I want to say there's just a 
little part of your divine 

769
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,720
masculine that you need to 
embody before you touch on gene 

770
00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:06,400
keys because it's going to help 
support you on flowing the wave 

771
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:11,080
of your divine feminine because 
masculine's so fixed divine 

772
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,640
feminine. 
It's the water. 

773
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,000
It's the current of the water, 
and you kind of need some of 

774
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:22,920
that to ride the waves. 
And so Gene Keys, once again is 

775
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,640
made-up of your birthday place 
and time. 

776
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:29,720
And there's three sequences held
within them. 

777
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,280
There's the first sequence is 
your activation sequence. 

778
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:37,120
And it is why and why you came 
here on this earth and what you 

779
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:41,120
came here on this earth to do. 
OK, If you look at human design,

780
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:46,640
it's gonna be your incarnation 
cross, your conscious son and 

781
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:50,720
conscious Earth, and then your 
unconscious son and conscious 

782
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:52,960
Earth. 
That is what makes up why you 

783
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:57,080
came here on this Earth. 
Then you step into the Venus 

784
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:00,400
sequence, which is has to do 
with your love, your 

785
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,200
relationships, who you attract, 
what you attract. 

786
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,000
It's just getting to know your 
emotions. 

787
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:09,640
Then when you move through that,
there's multiple different 

788
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,200
spheres. 
By the way, when you move 

789
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:20,160
through that sequence, you then 
step into prosperity the, your 

790
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:24,560
relationship with the 
materialistic plane here in this

791
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:28,720
3D World. 
So there's those 3 sequences and

792
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,920
they, there's when it comes to a
gene key, there's three 

793
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,200
different frequencies. 
So there's the shadow frequency,

794
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,760
there's the gift frequency, and 
then there's the CD frequency. 

795
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,760
And this is where the shadow 
work comes in. 

796
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,840
But a lot of actually all the 
gene keys also correlate with 

797
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:50,880
the gates within the human 
design. 

798
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,480
I like to look at my human 
design. 

799
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,560
And then if I notice that 
they're like a gate that I 

800
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:00,240
haven't explored yet, I'll go to
gene keys because it gives a 

801
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:05,160
deeper definition. 
And so I'll be like, oh, so I'm 

802
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,960
living in the shadow right now. 
How in the world do I get out of

803
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,320
the shadow? 
And that's where I like, go and 

804
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,480
look at the gift. 
So, yeah, yeah. 

805
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:19,200
So I am hoping to have you back 
on cuz I'm now I'm really 

806
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,560
interested because it's funny 
cuz I always feel like I'm 

807
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:29,080
mostly in the masculine energy 
and I always say I feel like my 

808
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,400
past lives I was I was a man and
now I'm a woman. 

809
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,400
Why did I choose to come back as
a woman? 

810
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,920
I'm like, oh I hate those female
stuff. 

811
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,160
So maybe I need to look at gene 
keys a little bit more. 

812
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,760
I actually. 
Was in my divine masculine 

813
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:49,400
majority of the time and when I 
discovered human design in Gene 

814
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:54,200
Keys, Gene Keys is actually the 
first one that I decided to dive

815
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,960
into because I was like, I 
really need to hone down on 

816
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:02,440
these divine feminine things. 
But then I realized after, you 

817
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:08,280
know, doing my thing that I do 
with, like, learning things, I 

818
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,320
was like, wait, I need you come 
here. 

819
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:14,040
So I'd be like human design, 
come here. 

820
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,360
And so yeah, it, it's a good 
balance, the yin and the Yang. 

821
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:24,480
So interesting. 
So just for anyone listening 

822
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:30,040
right now who feels lost or 
unsure or just afraid of what 

823
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:33,600
they might uncover, what would 
you want to say to them? 

824
00:54:35,600 --> 00:54:42,160
You are not broken at all. 
You a lot of people go and try 

825
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:46,960
and search for who they are 
through other people, but here's

826
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:52,440
the thing, their perception has 
nothing to do with who you are 

827
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,120
truly are. 
You're beautiful and like I said

828
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:03,200
earlier, you are everything you 
need to be at every moment, no 

829
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,560
matter what it is. 
Yeah, that's good. 

830
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,240
So why don't you tell us where 
we can find you? 

831
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,960
And of course, I'll have all the
links in the show notes, but 

832
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:14,880
where are you at? 
How can people get in touch with

833
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,920
you? 
They. 

834
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:21,000
Can get in touch with me. 
I have a website, it is Megan 

835
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:27,560
Meghan Dash Lambert LA MB 
ert.com. 

836
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:32,560
That is the website. 
You can also find my podcast on 

837
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:37,320
there if you don't have Spotify,
the podcast for speaking into 

838
00:55:37,320 --> 00:55:40,480
shit. 
And then I also have Facebook, 

839
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:46,800
which is Megan Lambert and then 
also Instagram Megan Lambert. 

840
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,840
Again, just so you all know, I 
am, I don't want to stay 

841
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:56,840
freshly. 
I kind of freshly step back into

842
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:02,080
the world of social media. 
I took a social media detox and 

843
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:07,600
I recently, maybe a month and a 
half ago, got pushed into 

844
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,120
stepping back into that world. 
And I was like, OK, one foot at 

845
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:16,040
a time, Megan, you can do this. 
But I've learned. 

846
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,600
And I'm like, OK, this, this is,
this is my flow. 

847
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,160
I like it. 
So yeah, awesome. 

848
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:24,320
Great. 
Well, those links will be in the

849
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,560
show notes. 
Thanks for coming on today and 

850
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:33,560
talking about human design. 
And I just feel like finding 

851
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:35,960
these things about yourselves 
and unlocking some of these 

852
00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:42,680
realizations and becoming 
authentic is such a huge thing 

853
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,080
when it comes to healing. 
I mean, it's like the a huge key

854
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,480
to it. 
So if you are curious about your

855
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,440
human design listeners, get in 
touch with Megan. 

856
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:55,200
She can help you kind of weed 
through it and not get so 

857
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:59,200
overwhelmed with the process. 
Oh yes, yeah, if today's. 

858
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:02,560
Conversation sparked something 
inside of you, a sense that 

859
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:04,840
there's a deeper, truer way to 
live. 

860
00:57:05,240 --> 00:57:09,000
Then trust that feeling. 
It's your invitation to come 

861
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,640
home to yourself. 
I hope Megan's wisdom around 

862
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:16,600
human design and deconditioning 
gave you a fresh perspective on 

863
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:18,320
your own journey back to 
wholeness. 

864
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,520
If you wish to connect with 
Megan, her links are in the show

865
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,440
notes. 
And if you are a healer, 

866
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,720
practitioner, or expert working 
with an out-of-the-box healing 

867
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:32,520
modality, something that 
challenges the mainstream and 

868
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:36,280
empowers deep transformation, I 
would love to hear from you. 

869
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:41,600
I am always looking for unique 
voices and approaches to share 

870
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:45,200
with the Karma crew. 
You can get in touch with me at 

871
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:51,120
mindyourownkarma@gmail.com. 
And if you're feeling called to 

872
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:55,040
go deeper with your healing 
journey and just feel like you 

873
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:59,720
aren't quite getting there with 
traditional modalities, I invite

874
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:03,320
you to explore Somatic Mindful 
Guided Imagery, the 

875
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:07,120
transformational practice that 
Ioffer that connects you to your

876
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:12,000
body's inner guidance, can heal 
old wounds, and helps you embody

877
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:15,600
your true self. 
You'll find more details at my 

878
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,920
website, 
somatichealingjourneys.com. 

879
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,880
As with every episode, take what
you need and leave what you 

880
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:27,040
don't. 
And always remember to mind your

881
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:28,960
own karma. 
Thanks for. 

882
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,880
Listening today, Karma crew. 
And remember, you might be only 

883
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,280
one. 
Listen away from a totally 

884
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:38,560
different life. 
I'll see you next time.

