Hey there, it's Melissa Brunetti, and welcome to the
Mind Your Own Karma podcast. Hey there, Karma crew, thanks
for joining me for this episode of Mind Your Own Karma.
Beyond the bandage, have you ever felt like you were living
someone else's life, maybe following rules, roles, or
expectations that just didn't fit or feel right?
What if you could throw all of that out the window and finally
start showing up as your true and apologetic self?
Today's guest is here to help you do exactly that.
I am super excited to welcome Megan Lambert to the show, a
human design and gene keys guide who knows first hand what it's
like to lose yourself and to find your way back home.
Through her unique lens, including her experience as both
and an adoptee and a birth mother, Megan has embraced the
powerful truth that we are not broken, but whole.
We're just on a journey to discover who we truly are.
With a blend of intuitive insights and grounded tools,
Megan helps people move from autopilot to authentic living,
making deep transformation feel more like a homecoming than hard
work. Whether she's decoding energetic
blueprints, diving into shadow work, or sparking those soul
deep conversations, Megan's work is all about celebrating every
messy, beautiful step of choosing yourself.
Today we're talking about how human design can support healing
and self acceptance, how deconditioning helps us drop old
stories, and why personal growth isn't about fixing yourself.
It's about finally seeing who you pin all along.
Get ready to RIP off the bandage, because today's episode
isn't about becoming someone new.
It's about reclaiming who you already are.
Let's dive in. We are welcoming Megan Lambert
to the show today. Hi, Megan.
Hi. OK.
Super excited. We're going to be talking about
human design today, and Megan is.
Also an adoptee. And a birth mother.
So we're going to dive into that a little bit just to kind of get
her perspective on her healing journey.
And then we're going to talk a lot about human design, which I
know a little bit about, but not a lot.
So I'm glad that you're here to kind of dig into that.
So you've experienced both sides of adoption as far as a closed
as an adoptee and an open as a birth mother.
How has that experience shaped the person in Healer that you
are now? Well, with it being closed it, I
don't think there was even a choice back in, you know, the
80s when I was born and especially in the location I was
born, I was born and adopted in the Philippines.
So like I'm 100% Filipino. I was adopted into a white
military American family. So like there was all this
dynamic of one on. I had no idea.
Like it was even a possibility to have an open adoption back
then, especially where I was at. So it wasn't so much, it didn't
really bother me that it was like a closed one where I've
heard multiple people say, you know, that the adoption story is
where like, you know, they had the choice.
There was no choice for me. It was like this is it like, OK,
it was easy for me to accept that.
So then when I became a birth mom and I was offered this
opportunity, hey, do you want to close or do you want to open
one? Immediately I was like, I want
to open one because I don't want my child to have all the
questions that I had and wonder what in the world.
So that was like my perspective on close versus open.
So I just like so grateful to have experienced both sides.
Yeah, yeah. So do you still?
Are you still in touch with your birth child?
Yes, actually, we have the most amazing relationship.
I've kept in touch with him. I want to say like the first
couple of years, because we were living in the same state.
Like I said, I was a military child, so I've moved around
practically every nine months. So we kept in touch.
And then in the middle years, you know, I was still
questioning, OK, I know I'm a birth mom, but do I even have
the right to like check in and see how he's doing and all that,
'cause I didn't know how that played.
I was close adoption experienced that I.
But where does that fit in as a birth mom?
Thankfully, like I was blessed with the most perfect adopted
family that I picked for him. And they they're like my second
family. And so I absolutely have this
amazing relationship with that whole family.
Recently, he just graduated from high school, like last year.
And so they called me. They said, hey, you want to
come? And I was like, of course
they're like, you want to stay in our house?
I'm like, yeah, let's go. So, you know, we, we, I try to
go there once a year over the summer.
And, you know, we get together and we hang out for a week.
And then I want to say just this, this last year when he
graduated, I met actually met a good portion of his extended
family. And like just realizing like,
like we're talking me and my first born, we're talking, we're
hanging out, we're cracking jokes.
And then like, like I back away a little bit so he can hang out
with his cousins. And then so I'm talking to his
aunts and his uncles, and they're like, you know, what's
so fascinating to see this relationship that you have with
your birth son. And I'm kind of looking at them
like, well, isn't this how most adopted, you know, open
adoptions work? They say no.
And I was just like, mind blown by it.
No. I had no idea.
Like, that was so new to me. And so they're like crying.
And they're like, thank you for, you know, doing what you do and
still open to this and not, you know, not making this difficult
for us or and we're not making it difficult for you.
And it was just like this beautiful realization.
I know he's like 18 at this time but I'm like what?
Yeah, yeah, that's so true. I hear stories all the time
about it's mostly how the adoptive parents don't follow
through on whatever was set in place and that the that the
birth parent really has no legal, yeah, you know, course to
take to enforce that. And so a lot of times they lose
track of their child's even though it was supposed to be
open. It's.
Crazy. I yeah, I just, I just realized
that I was like, I had no idea. I like, I think what made it
work so well, it's the fact that I was adopted too.
So like I can understand. And like anytime that they had
questions like, hey, yes, they did counseling before they even
went into adoption just to get all the, you know, angles that
they could, which versus when my first born was adopted, when I
was adopted, like there was no counseling whatsoever.
And now I'm like, OK, this is great.
But anytime that they had like a question and they say, Hey, can
we can we pick your brain about something just coming?
Because I think they were talking to me like have knowing
that I was adopted. Like how do you feel about this?
Just getting that kind of perspective before they even
went about it with their, you know, their kid.
And I was just like, wow, you really are amazing like.
So was that something that the adoption agency encouraged or
was that something that they just kind of said we need to do
this? I well, here's the thing with
that. They had when I had picked them,
they had had already adopted another child.
And so it was like they were already had experience with
having an adopted child that when I came in the picture and
provided, you know, their other child, I think they were like,
OK, let's try this route. Let's just see if this works,
you know? And so they were more open and
like, forthcoming with, you know, taking on a different
perspective and, you know, understanding.
OK, yes, this is legally my child, but I also know that
there is an attachment that's this bond that birth son or
birth child with birth mom that needs to also stay intact in
some way, shape or form, which was beautiful.
And I was like, oh, you guys are amazing.
That's awesome. I'm glad to hear that.
Maybe things are starting to change and people are really
starting to get educated about what needs to happen for the
child, you know, instead of just worrying about creating a
family. There's this other little person
over here that's going through some stuff, you know?
Yeah. And it's really important,
especially, you know, Doctor and adopted, it's really important
to understand that there is a bond that can't be broken.
No matter how hard you try to break it, regardless of the
experience of how you even receive this child, there is a
bond. And the more you try to like,
I'm a deconditioning coach, the more you try to make these
conditions to like form this kind of scenario that works for
you as a parent, as in a, what do you call them, adopter
parent. The adoptive parent.
The adoptive parents, yes, no matter how hard you try it,
there's still going to be this aspect that you can't like
condition it's there so. Yeah, amazing.
We could, we could have an all episode on that, but yeah, all
that good stuff. Yes.
So you say you embrace the truth about everything and I'm like,
everything is in air quotes right now.
What does that mean to you and how did that shift your healing
journey? OK, so it's, it's funny you
asked us like everybody's like, where'd you get that?
I'm like because I am everything that I need to be at every
moment. So like we all try to play or
stay in this one lane. We're conditioned to believe
that or think that the way to be successful or the way to be
happy, you have to stay in this one lane, have one focus.
And like, this epiphany came to me when I was, you know, deep
diving, doing some healing on understanding my human design
and get my charts and whatnot, that I'm like, no, I'm
everything and everybody is everything.
It's just OK, what is your everything in that moment?
It doesn't have to match what you were yesterday or last year
or maybe a decade ago. I am everything that I need to
be in every moment. So that's a good mantra.
Yeah, everybody should write that on a sticky note.
Stick it on their mirror. Yes, yes.
And I like to remind people I'm like, no, you're exactly who you
need to be at every moment, so embrace that.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
So today we're kind of focusing on human design.
So for listeners who might not be familiar with that, can you
break down what human design is? OK, so human design is a mixture
of four different things. It is the chakra system,
astrology, the I Ching and the Kabbalah.
I like to to Mickey Mouse Clubhouse it down for people and
I say it is the personality test without the personality, like
without the test, like it gives you pretty much your blueprint
on how you effortlessly live your life, how you were meant to
move and flow and interact and be in this life.
And that's how I explain it. And I'm like, whatever questions
that you have about yourself, I bet actually, no, I know for a
fact that I can look at your chart and say this, This is why
or this is how, or this is what. We already know The Who.
So it just answers the questions.
So that does do you go by birthday and like certain?
It is your birthday place and time.
And so when you plug all that information, it gives you a
chart that has nine different centers and some of them will be
colored in, some of them will not.
Some of them have, like, gates, but it's open, but it's not
defined. It's just there.
There's so much that goes into it, but it's so fascinating.
If you jump into this and you like, plug in, a lot of people
will be like, what am I looking at?
It's overwhelming. Yeah.
So I like to, like, take baby steps.
And I always tell people like, hey, try not to go in too deep
too fast because you're supposed to embody a little bit at a
time. Once you actually do come to
acknowledge, oh, this is who I am because things don't change,
doesn't happen overnight, y'all. So you gotta do it piece by
piece. Do some people like flat out
like that's not me like or do they really 'cause they're so
like conditioned to be a certain way when they get their design,
it's like, well, wait a minute, that doesn't, that doesn't
resonate with me is do you ever people have people do that?
Like I, I, I did a workshop one one day back when I first
started this just just to see and how things would go.
And one person there's the solar plexus, which all in human
design and even as well as the chakra system, you know, solar
plexus emotions and whatnot. The I, they were like someone
had a defined solar plexus and I had said a defined solar plexus
means you feel a lot. And then one person was like,
no, I don't. And then I was like looking at
their chart a little deeper. I said, oh, This is why you were
conditioned to believe and like, hold in those emotions.
Like. It's still also it's there's
something when people are like, no, that's not me.
And then I go in and I'm like, well, here it is.
This person made you turn this off.
This is why it had helped me through my, you know,
deconditioning when, like, finding who I was when, you
know, I stepped into my family or not stepped.
I was kind of just given, yeah, like here.
Yeah. Like, understanding who I was
versus who they wanted me to be and why it didn't work out.
I've spent decades trying to, like, prove myself to them and,
like, heal all this stuff and be like, why is it not working?
This is not comfortable. But once I like, looked at it, I
was like, oh, because I was never meant to fit into their
mold. That is why, yeah, I had people
be like, well, I don't do that. And so when I give them homework
after I tell them, they're like. Oh, it's all.
Coming together now, yeah. That's cool, that's cool.
Well, how did you come across Human Design and what was it
that resonated to you about it? I was actually, I just got done
with hypnotherapy and my hypnotherapist gave me homework
and she was like, hey, I need you to listen to this episode on
a podcast, the podcast that she does.
And I was like, OK, but, and then I got addicted to her
podcast that I like started scrolling and finding and I was
like human design. Last time I tried to step into
human design, it just wasn't for me at the time.
But this time, like the way she was speaking and the what she
was saying, I was like, that's me.
And so I was like, OK, so that's how I came into human design.
Because when I was doing the hypnotherapy, the only reason
why I was doing hypnotherapy was there was a voice in my head
that was living there for like my whole life that I wanted to
get rid of. And I didn't know how to.
So I was like, let's try hypnotherapy.
So I did that. And then like going into human
design, it made me understand, oh, this why?
This is why this person has been living in my head for like my
whole life. I'm like, OK, now I even know
how to, like, decipher that it's hers and not mine.
And also tell her to shut up and move out.
Like here's your eviction notice.
Yeah, go be gone. So.
Yeah, so. The combination of hypnotherapy
and human design helped you kind of tackle that.
Yeah, it was. My, it was my stepping stone
into giving myself permission to invite other people into my
healing journey because for a while I was doing it by myself.
I have no problem like facing things that I know I need to
face and like working through them and whatnot.
But there was a point in time in my life where I've done all that
I could and I'm like, I can't. I can't.
And that's when spirit was like, hey, it's time to invite
somebody in. You can't do this anymore by
yourself. You've got to let somebody in.
And I was, luckily this person came along and I was just like
you, you, you're good, which is tough to.
Do as an adoptee, I mean, you know, there's so many of us that
are like very closed off to asking for help or, you know,
yeah. Oh.
Yeah, it's tough. Yeah, it is very.
Tough like being a how I was adopted, you know, I I I went
from, you know, being in my mother's boon and then entering
into this world and I believe I was with six different families
before I ended up with the family that I ended up with.
And so like I did all this and it was just like they had
already had this dynamic within their family because I'm the
only one that's adopted out of the five kids that my parents
have. And so it was just like, This is
why they were like, OK, why aren't you like them?
And I'm like because because I and I, I did it in the nicest
way possible and I wasn't trying to be mean to my mom, but I was
like, because you did not birth me.
I am not I logically yours. You may have raised me, but you
did not birth me. So.
Yeah, so I was told they they would be like, oh, you need to
be more like, you know, your siblings or you need to shut
that off like, and I'm not. And I'd be like, no, like what?
What's wrong with you? And I, I always thought I was
the problem. For the longest time.
I was like, OK, it's me. It's me.
It's because, you know, I'm different.
And so many times I've tried to like condition myself to be like
them, but I couldn't like it would just seriously, our bodies
are are like secret. It holds our secrets.
So when things aren't working, you start getting all these body
aches and things. And so the more I tried, the
more my body would shut down and I'd just be like, this isn't
working. So when I finally was like, OK,
I'm done. I can't do this anymore.
The the shock that my body went through was like, oh, it's about
time. It is.
About thank. You finally.
Thank you. Oh.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. So personally, what, how, how
did human design support you in finding your authenticity and
like in what ways? And I bet you finding that was
so freeing. It was, yeah.
OK, so like I had said, I thought I always was the problem
and the more and the deeper I went in and was understanding
the different parts of myself, human design showed me that I
wasn't wrong. Like all the things that I
thought I was wrong about myself showed me, no, that's who you
were meant to be. This is a part of you.
You can't change it now. Like human design, it's a fixed
thing. You can't change it.
And so knowing that it's like, OK, this is me.
I, I finally get to take these pieces, understand them
implement into my life because like I've been conditioned to
either turn it off, shut it off or hold it in one or the other.
And now I get to like activate it, reawaken it and start
feeling the the ease that I've always meant.
I mean, we're all supposed to feel eased the ease that we're
meant to feel in life. The acceptance because I finally
have been sitting in a place where I can fully accept myself,
all parts of it. I know I'm, I did things that I
probably wouldn't know. I know for a fact I wasn't
supposed to do. I mean, we're human.
We're supposed to. So like I can actually accept
those parts of me and sit with it.
But I don't feel shame anymore. I don't feel guilty anymore.
I feel so proud of all parts of me.
Like, regardless of what happened to me, like I probably
would do it every single thing that I went through and done
over again because I don't think I would be here today if I never
did. And I just had this conversation
with my husband. He's like, are you OK?
I was like, you know what? I think I would do.
It all over again. OK.
I was just thinking as you were talking.
How 'cause we you use birthday and time of birth and, and
things like that. After talking to so many
adoptees over the last couple years, there's a lot of adoptees
that have a wrong birthday on their birth certificates.
Yeah. So like they'll find out later
that that was not their birthday or they don't know really when
their birthday was. They'll they'll get in contact
with their birth mother finally and like, Oh yeah, I just wrote
that day down 'cause I couldn't really remember what day you
were born or whatever. Yeah.
So that would really, Yeah. That's another thing people
don't don't think about, Yeah. I didn't know my birth time and
because I'm so intuitive and I I have this connection to spirit,
I actually had to do a deep meditation to figure out what
time I was born. And I think that's why I haven't
really messed with human design, because I was like, I don't even
know that. Yeah, so.
Like I, I thought I was born at this time and when I looked at
the chart, I was like, no, that doesn't seem right.
But then like when I did this, went into this deep meditation
and was like, the numbers showed up for me and I was like plugged
it in and did some like deep dive into it.
I was like, that's me. Wow, that is so me.
That's. Crazy.
So your website mentioned shadow work and you were talking about
deconditioning. How do those practices implement
or complement human design? OK.
So shadow work and deconditioning.
They're often paired together as twins and when really they're
like distance cousins because, you know, shadow work is all
about, you know, going through your attic or basement,
depending where you're living. I live in Texas.
We can't have basements. You go through your attic
because there's so much stuff piling on that you have no
choice but to like face it and whatnot.
Whereas like deconditioning is when you get, when you actually
look at the whole house as a whole.
And so when you have like human design, you know, you can look
at the human design chart and say, OK, these are where my
shadows are hiding. Like this is where all I will
say majority of the open undefined centers are where your
shadows are hiding, where you have to face it because open
centers define or undefined centers, that's where you're
more apt to take in other people's things and also hold in
like trauma and whatnot. If it's defined, I will say
this, you have more control on what goes in and what comes out.
So whereas deconditioning, you actually can see exactly where
you're conditioned the most. It can be either in a gate or a
channel, whichever or an undefined open center.
And with conditioning, the thing that I love about conditioning
is that you get to choose whether to keep the condition or
not. And you can also like, let's say
this condition that somebody offered or provided you or you
just decided to take in. It doesn't have to stay like
it's just there for that moment. And then you can say, you know
what, I want to change it. Like I said earlier, you think
of deconditioning as looking at the whole house.
It's like somebody gave you this house or gave you their
blueprint, and they started creating the rooms and building
the house how they think you should live it.
Like, let's say the living room was built by your family and the
kitchen was built by some maybe your friend or or like school or
whatever. And then your study room was
built by your like mentors and teachers and whatever.
So you get to go into the house and say, you know what?
I don't like this room. I want to turn this room into
something else. Or you know what?
I like the color of the wall, but I hate the window, so I'm
going to change the window. That's what it all is.
That's how it plays. And that's like what human
design goes in. And it's like saying, oh,
there's an open space. Do I want to fill this open
space or do I want to like take it out?
So that's how. Works.
I. It's funny you bring up the
house, 'cause I always kind of use that analogy for
generational traumas and, and things like that is, you know,
you move into the family home and it's like, OK, that window's
been broken for, you know, 5 generations now.
You can choose to leave it that way, or you can choose to fix
it. You know exactly.
Yeah. So that's kind of cool.
It's a. Great analogy.
It's a great analogy. I love to use that analogy.
So when you work with clients, what does the process look like
when they come to you? When they come to me, I first
like to have them acknowledge their reality and when I say
their reality, how they perceive their reality not.
And I tried. I'm like, hey, listen, I don't
want you to think what other people think.
I want you to completely be open, honest with yourself,
because the key to deconditioning and even healing,
no matter what you're doing is acknowledging what you see and
what you feel like. Underline that you nobody else's
perception but Jerome. And so once like they finally
have this aha moment of, oh crap, this is how I built and
created my life, that that's when everything starts to be
like, OK, yeah, you're right. I, I don't want to do this
anymore. And so once they step into that,
they're like, stuff happens really fast, really fast for
them once they start acknowledging it.
And we can like go in and be like, OK, well, this is the
thing that I want to change. I want to keep this, but I, I
want to change this. And so we start playing around
with how they want to play with it, especially looking at their
chart, because the first thing that I like to do other than,
you know, have them acknowledge their reality is like we go over
their, their energy type and their strategy and also their
authority. Because those are the top three
things that I'm like, hey, we, we really need to hone down on
this because this is going to support you on transitioning or
deconstructing whatever it is that you want to deconstruct.
Then we go into looking at where they've been the most popular
place where they're able to be conditioned.
And so once they can acknowledge where they're easily to be
conditioned, they have that awareness that they're like, Oh,
I don't have to take that in. And it becomes a lot easier for
them. So they love it.
Cause the moment that they're like, Oh, this is the, this is
where I can be conditioned, but they're open to the condition,
but they know that they don't have to take it.
Like they can leave it there and be like it's like taking.
Your power back like realize, you know, you don't know what
you don't know or what you're, you know.
So once you're like, oh, that makes sense, you know?
You're like getting. Your power back, you're able to
make that boundary or do whatever you have to do to kind
of manage it or choose, you know, like now I can choose
whether I want that or not. So yeah.
That's exactly what it is. It's, it's, it's, it's
fascinating to watch people you know from the start like this is
their reality. And then then they start
discovering pieces of themselves and then they're like, wait.
I believe that. I see you can leave that, like
right there. Yes, right there.
One client of mine, we were working on the mindset of
prosperity and I was using human Design and Gene Keys at this
point in time. But I was like, hey, when we
think of prosperity, y'all think of money when really it's your
relationship with the tangible things.
If you can touch it, if you can see it, that's prosperity.
And so she was, I was getting, we were going deep into her
unconscious Mars. And her unconscious Mars had to
do with, you know, the now. And I was just like, hey, what's
your issue right now? She's like, I have a hard time
saying no. And I'm like, OK, here's your
homework. And so she did it.
And she has, she calls me a lot. She says, guess what I use?
I said you use the word no. She's like.
Yes, and it feels so good. I'm like, yay, It's funny how
just as simple as things like I can do that.
I'm allowed to like, say no to people like well.
But here's the thing, and I know there's a lot of people pleasers
out there. I remember covering peaceful
pleaser. So guilty as charged.
No, these are no is really hard, but the only reason why it's
hard for us to say no is because we don't, we never have given.
I don't want to say never. We have yet given ourselves the
permission or the opportunity to flow through all the emotions,
the action of the word no and get to the other side 'cause you
haven't experienced the other side.
Allow yourself to experience the other side of no.
And it gets easier. Yeah.
And so it's just like, no, no. Feels so good.
I'm like, I know, right? Yeah, I think.
We don't check in with ourselves.
I mean, I was that way, especially when I first started
this podcast and I was getting spread so thin 'cause I wasn't
saying no to anything. And you know, when I started,
'cause I just didn't, I didn't feel good at first, you know,
'cause I just felt like I can't let these people down.
They, they, you know, they're asking me to do this thing, but
I wouldn't even check in. I, the yes was coming out of my
mouth before I even like, how do I even feel about that?
You know, And it was already the yes was already out there.
And I was like, now I gotta do that.
I bet. You have, when it comes to human
design, the way you're speaking, I bet you have a defined solar
plexus. And when it comes to the defined
solar plexus, you have to ride that wave of emotions before you
can even answer. I have a defined solar plexus,
and I've had to learn how to honor time.
Like, hey, if somebody's going to ask me to do something,
they're going to have to wait and if they want it done, they
better go ask somebody else because I'm not going to tell
you right then and there. And I will say this like
deconditioning from giving people an answer right then and
there. I mean, it's hard.
Y'all 'cause you like, part of you wants to say yes there, but
then there's another part of you who says I really don't want to,
but I know that they're going to be.
Or here's the thing, you put in your mind that there's going to
be all these things that's going to backfire.
And. No, if you actually do listen to
what your guess and your no is, depending what your authority
is, especially in human design, it actually works out for the
best. Like yes, I may take well, I
don't say I take my time. I recognize the fact that I need
to hold off before I answer because even if I do say yes,
which I know for a lot of people who do have a define sacral,
they immediately, if they, if it's something that they're
excited about on impulse, you're going to say yes.
But by the time you get there, you're going to be like, why did
I say yes? I don't even want to do it, but
that's where the whole waiting and it feeling all the feels
like I have to feel the high and the low before I level out and
say, OK, what is it that I want to do?
So I have to feel both of them. That's great.
Homework though, for somebody to just, you know, don't don't say
yes or no in the moment, just you know, so I'll get back to
you in a few days or whatever, but that's great homework for
people that are people pleasers to kind of give that space to
really feel it out before before you commit my.
Husband has an undefined solar plexus.
He's a he's pure in what what he is.
He's a pure manifesting generator.
So when it comes to his authority, I'm like your yes and
no is in that moment. So don't get in your head
because you know there's the people who will get in their
head and be like, do I want it? I'm like, no, it's going to tell
you right then and there. Is it a guess or no?
And so he's like, he takes that into account now.
And he's like, I don't want to do it.
I said, OK, you don't have to do it.
He's like, OK, that's it. I said, yeah, that's it.
That's it. That's all you got to do.
It's that simple. It's that.
Simple. So what are some misconceptions
or challenges that you see commonly that people face when
they start exploring their human design?
The thing that I see most commonly is that people tend to
go way too deep into it. Like they'll try, they can take
on, you know, they'll take on their energy type, the strategy,
their authority, but they also try to take on the other parts
of it that it becomes overwhelming that they haven't.
Pivot like they're trying to do a 360 instead of like a slight
pivot like that's all you need to do for now.
So I've seen people crash and burn be like, no, I gave up
because it was too much. I'm like, well, did you like
what? I asked them what, what, what is
it that you did? And they're like, well, I did
this, this and this. And I'm like.
No. That is a lot I said for now,
just get to know. I always tell them identify your
yes and no first. That's like the first thing you
need to do is your yes and your no.
And then and of course live out your energy type and and
authority, but like your yes and your no, that's important.
Do that first, because people, most people, actually all
people, have a difficulty with their yes and no.
Yeah, that's so true. Can you share a moment when
understanding your own human design chart that led to like a
major shift or a breakthrough for you?
Yes. So when I was looking at my
chart and I was in a workshop with another human design reader
who was just like, hey, you want to try this out?
I'm like, yeah, let's do it. She was speaking into the
definitions of human design and what a definition is, how your
close centers connect when you have like all your clothes
centers connect you, that means you like learn really, really
fast. Like you don't need anybody to
fill in the blanks for you. And so me, I have a triple
split, so I have three. Oh boy, that.
Sounds complicated. Yeah, I was.
Like I got three islands of define centers that are spread
out that aren't connected. And she she was saying she goes,
here's the thing with triple splits is that they don't need
people like everybody else needs people.
And I was like, wait, so you're telling me that I don't have to
be connected all the time? She's like, what do you mean?
I, I would get, I'm the type of person who gets overwhelmed or
drained really easily being connected to people all the
time. And I, I would lose friends
because they'd be like, it's like you just shut off.
And I would shut off for months, OK, if I was connected when I
did the yoga teacher training, I was probably plugged into this
group of women doing the teacher training for nine months.
So when I came out of it, I was like done.
I was like, I can't like, I'm I'm glad, I'm grateful, but I
need to unplug. I need to detach from y'all.
So when she said you are the type of person who just needs to
be around people for a short amount of time and not plug in
all the time, you need to be able to detach yourself from
them. You don't have to interact with
anybody. Just go put yourself in a room
that's full of people and you'll be good.
That way you can walk away and you don't have to like worry or
overthink. And I'm like, so it wasn't me.
I thought I was a horrible friend because I would detach.
I would wouldn't go, I wouldn't call, I wouldn't do text.
I'm not a big texter. And so like now, after I had
lost a really good friend due to it, I would warn people and be
like, hey, just so you know, I'm a person who detaches really
easy and I sometimes detach for a very long time.
This is just a heads up. And I was like, it's not that I
don't care about you, it's just that for my mental state and for
my health, I have to do that. And like this is before I even
knew about the whole triple split because I was like, please
don't pressure me with making me check in on you when I need to
check in on myself. Yes.
And so like when she said that I was like, that makes sense.
That's a very. Common thing with adoptees as
well. And I'm wondering if there's a,
there's like a common thread in human design and like some of
these major channels or whatever, I don't even know what
you would call them that most adoptees have.
Because as you know, a lot of the things you're touching, I'm
like, oh gosh, that's like an adoptee thing.
That's an adoptee thing. So that's kind of interesting
and you know. What I would love to actually do
some kind of research I know wouldn't.
That be cool experiment I'm. Like let me have your chart in
your chart just to see if it's. Familiar some common you know
hits there. It's interesting I'm.
Speaking into something audience, I know.
Shameless plug there. So what do you think your life
would look like if you'd hadn't discovered human design?
I probably still would be fighting the voices in my head
and not and I probably would not be able to acknowledge like the
parts of me that I've been holding in for so long.
Because it really, I will say each time I look at my chart and
discover something different, it allows me to bring that part of
me up and actually look at it comfortably and accept it and be
like, OK, that is a part of me. I'm OK with that.
Like I have no shame anymore. I probably still would be silent
because a lot of what where I was conditioned was in my
throat. My, my, my throat center.
I have a very I it's an undefined 1.
So like being silent, like I'm, I'm going to be a little
personal here. My, when I decided to be a
little more open, I was testing the waters of my voice.
I decided to open up about my, my past trauma because all the
clients that I've had, they're like, why don't you ever tell
your story? And I was like, because I don't
know how to like. It only naturally comes out when
I'm working with somebody because for them to trust me,
they also have to know and understand, Hey, I do understand
where you're coming from. So like I decided to do a video,
a podcast video, first attempt, y'all doing a YouTube video of
sharing my story. And my mom ended up getting a
hold of it and I wasn't hiding anything whatsoever.
She took it as me attacking her and she and we were, we worked
hard on our relationship. OK.
I thought we were in a good, really good place for me to be
able to like speak and say because she had acknowledged
what she had done to me and she had said sorry.
And I, you know, vice versa. I know I didn't help the
situation when I was growing up. So I thought, OK, cool, I, I can
talk about it. No, she, I think she only heard
half and she didn't hear the other half.
And so she ended up stepping away from me and kind of like
saying, you know what, I can't talk to you right now.
I kind of have to press pause on this relationship that we have.
And so it I took it as so you don't want me to speak kind of
thing. And like, and that's the whole
reason why I didn't share is because they didn't want to hurt
my mom. We were finally in a good place
and I was like, OK, now I got to protect this relationship.
And so knowing that my throat center is undefined and looking
at my human design chart that I'm like, oh, that's, that's,
that's where it's held. That is where my biggest
conditioning is to like I I've been told by multiple healers,
they're like, why aren't you using your voice?
So I'm like, because nobody, nobody taught me how to use the
voice. OK?
I've been, I they just told me, hey, speak when, when spoken to.
If you're spoken to, you're going to answer this way and
you're only going to give this much information.
That is how I was taught to use my voice.
So I did that. So yeah, that's where.
And, and so now that we're not, we haven't spoken since like
it's been a year now. And I, I, I think I told you
earlier before this even recording, is that I am now
deconditioning and, and currently embodying the openness
of my voice. So I'm now being more open,
regardless of how somebody might feel, 'cause their feelings,
they're not. Your responsibility?
Yeah, they're not my. Responsibility.
I can no longer protect other people's peace.
I can only protect my own. Yeah.
So Yep. Again, a very common adoptee
thing. You'll have to I'll.
Have to give you my chart and we'll have to see if there's
some common ground things because again, like there it's
just it's yeah, I'm just curious, you know I.
Would love. I will.
I'm you know what? I'm gonna totally get your
information after this. So yeah, get a few.
Get a few other ones and just see cause yeah, I think there's
a lot in common. It would be interesting to see
how that comes out. So you also do gene keys.
Can you just kind of lightly touch on what that is OK.
Yes, I do. Also Gene Keys.
So human design is your divine masculine, while Gene Keys is
your divine feminine. You need them both.
But I like to say that you got into embody the divine masculine
before you can like even touch on your.
I want to say there's just a little part of your divine
masculine that you need to embody before you touch on gene
keys because it's going to help support you on flowing the wave
of your divine feminine because masculine's so fixed divine
feminine. It's the water.
It's the current of the water, and you kind of need some of
that to ride the waves. And so Gene Keys, once again is
made-up of your birthday place and time.
And there's three sequences held within them.
There's the first sequence is your activation sequence.
And it is why and why you came here on this earth and what you
came here on this earth to do. OK, If you look at human design,
it's gonna be your incarnation cross, your conscious son and
conscious Earth, and then your unconscious son and conscious
Earth. That is what makes up why you
came here on this Earth. Then you step into the Venus
sequence, which is has to do with your love, your
relationships, who you attract, what you attract.
It's just getting to know your emotions.
Then when you move through that, there's multiple different
spheres. By the way, when you move
through that sequence, you then step into prosperity the, your
relationship with the materialistic plane here in this
3D World. So there's those 3 sequences and
they, there's when it comes to a gene key, there's three
different frequencies. So there's the shadow frequency,
there's the gift frequency, and then there's the CD frequency.
And this is where the shadow work comes in.
But a lot of actually all the gene keys also correlate with
the gates within the human design.
I like to look at my human design.
And then if I notice that they're like a gate that I
haven't explored yet, I'll go to gene keys because it gives a
deeper definition. And so I'll be like, oh, so I'm
living in the shadow right now. How in the world do I get out of
the shadow? And that's where I like, go and
look at the gift. So, yeah, yeah.
So I am hoping to have you back on cuz I'm now I'm really
interested because it's funny cuz I always feel like I'm
mostly in the masculine energy and I always say I feel like my
past lives I was I was a man and now I'm a woman.
Why did I choose to come back as a woman?
I'm like, oh I hate those female stuff.
So maybe I need to look at gene keys a little bit more.
I actually. Was in my divine masculine
majority of the time and when I discovered human design in Gene
Keys, Gene Keys is actually the first one that I decided to dive
into because I was like, I really need to hone down on
these divine feminine things. But then I realized after, you
know, doing my thing that I do with, like, learning things, I
was like, wait, I need you come here.
So I'd be like human design, come here.
And so yeah, it, it's a good balance, the yin and the Yang.
So interesting. So just for anyone listening
right now who feels lost or unsure or just afraid of what
they might uncover, what would you want to say to them?
You are not broken at all. You a lot of people go and try
and search for who they are through other people, but here's
the thing, their perception has nothing to do with who you are
truly are. You're beautiful and like I said
earlier, you are everything you need to be at every moment, no
matter what it is. Yeah, that's good.
So why don't you tell us where we can find you?
And of course, I'll have all the links in the show notes, but
where are you at? How can people get in touch with
you? They.
Can get in touch with me. I have a website, it is Megan
Meghan Dash Lambert LA MB ert.com.
That is the website. You can also find my podcast on
there if you don't have Spotify, the podcast for speaking into
shit. And then I also have Facebook,
which is Megan Lambert and then also Instagram Megan Lambert.
Again, just so you all know, I am, I don't want to stay
freshly. I kind of freshly step back into
the world of social media. I took a social media detox and
I recently, maybe a month and a half ago, got pushed into
stepping back into that world. And I was like, OK, one foot at
a time, Megan, you can do this. But I've learned.
And I'm like, OK, this, this is, this is my flow.
I like it. So yeah, awesome.
Great. Well, those links will be in the
show notes. Thanks for coming on today and
talking about human design. And I just feel like finding
these things about yourselves and unlocking some of these
realizations and becoming authentic is such a huge thing
when it comes to healing. I mean, it's like the a huge key
to it. So if you are curious about your
human design listeners, get in touch with Megan.
She can help you kind of weed through it and not get so
overwhelmed with the process. Oh yes, yeah, if today's.
Conversation sparked something inside of you, a sense that
there's a deeper, truer way to live.
Then trust that feeling. It's your invitation to come
home to yourself. I hope Megan's wisdom around
human design and deconditioning gave you a fresh perspective on
your own journey back to wholeness.
If you wish to connect with Megan, her links are in the show
notes. And if you are a healer,
practitioner, or expert working with an out-of-the-box healing
modality, something that challenges the mainstream and
empowers deep transformation, I would love to hear from you.
I am always looking for unique voices and approaches to share
with the Karma crew. You can get in touch with me at
mindyourownkarma@gmail.com. And if you're feeling called to
go deeper with your healing journey and just feel like you
aren't quite getting there with traditional modalities, I invite
you to explore Somatic Mindful Guided Imagery, the
transformational practice that Ioffer that connects you to your
body's inner guidance, can heal old wounds, and helps you embody
your true self. You'll find more details at my
website, somatichealingjourneys.com.
As with every episode, take what you need and leave what you
don't. And always remember to mind your
own karma. Thanks for.
Listening today, Karma crew. And remember, you might be only
one. Listen away from a totally
different life. I'll see you next time.