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Be a social worker, welcome to 
the podcast show, hosted by 

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social worker just for you 
offering you a safe space for 

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encouragement insights and to 
enhance your leadership skills 

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for your social work, practice 
and self-care. 

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I'm Lisa ran your host. 
And I went from a decade of 

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front-line, safeguarding Social 
Work to certified leadership 

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coach for social workers where I
offer safe and independent space

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for social workers to reflect 
and develop across the UK. 

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Welcome to the first podcast 
show that is really exciting. 

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We're going to be focused on 
adult attachment styles for you 

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as social workers. 
And how that shows up in your 

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self-care, I'm going to be 
talking from the premise that 

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you have an understanding of 
what attachment is. 

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Because of course, we're all 
social workers here. 

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We're talking about adult 
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adult attachment Styles become 
more complicated than 

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children's. 
Styles because there's more 

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influences, more contributing 
factors and different 

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experiences that have an impact,
a whole list of things, we're 

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going to first start off with 
insecure attachment, and look at

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the anxious or preoccupied as it
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Now, this particular style tends
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relationships. 
And people with this style, tend

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to be insecure about themselves.
Possibly have Our self-esteem 

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and there is more of a 
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require from relationships. 
Can be clingy or needy Etc. 

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Then we have the avoidant or 
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attachment style. 
This is where you have someone 

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who's more, independent, 
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At least that's how they appear 
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But often people in this 
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other people to rely on them too
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Okay, it's so they can become 
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The disorganized style, is a mix
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attachment Styles. 
So it's a mix between anxious 

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and avoidance behaviors. 
Now, my first question to you as

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a social worker, working with 
families and our fellow 

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colleagues professionals. 
Do you know what your attachment

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style is? 
And do you think it's important 

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for you to know what your 
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what I find in my coaching 
sessions is, often people do not

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have an awareness of their 
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often looking at the outcome of 
a behavior and not necessarily 

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looking at the cause of the 
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They may even touch on the 
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but still, not really understand
the cause What would happen if 

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you understood your attachment 
style better and how would that 

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influence? 
How you practice, or how you're 

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looking, after yourself, whilst 
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I think that is a very important
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of us have an attachment Style. 
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it's insecure, we all have an 
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So having an understanding of 
what that is when that part of 

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the core of how you relate to 
others and the lens through 

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which you see information and 
receive information, I think 

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that's an important thing to 
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The fourth attachment style is 
secure, so this is where you 

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don't depend on anyone, where 
you are independent and you are 

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confident and you'll Eddie in 
your, your approach and your 

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response to things that happen. 
So I want to reflect on how a 

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colleague or yourself with an 
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Anxious attachment style, may 
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five elements here and then 
we're going to ask you some 

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questions to reflect on perhaps 
how that may show up in 

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self-care. 
And I will talk about a Coaching

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or we call Cochise, Cochise is 
someone that I coached coaches, 

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I will talk about my interaction
with a Kochi who had an anxious 

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attachment Styles. 
So number one, Hiya burnout 

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levels. 
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It's really important, you know 
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present. 
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burnout level, think of it as 
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when you're looking at your 
complicating factors, or what 

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you're worried about in your 
signs of safety, when you're 

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considering that element, you're
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And the level of risk that 
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going to reflect on that in your
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to want to put a service or 
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in place that minimizes that 
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We've got to do that for 
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Particularly, if you have an 
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have a higher burnout, level 
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indication that something needs 
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support you because of that 
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How does that show up in 
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You know as a TM IQ Aid Court 
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you name it all the time 
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time for various reasons. 
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attachment style may take some 
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may feel it's about them rather 
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is is detailed as it could be 
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Less ability, number 3, less 
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and autonomously, and 
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On the supervisor, That's 
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conformity. 
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How does that show up? 
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Number five, strong fear of 
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I've worked with social workers 
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Style. 
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up in every conversation. 
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would ensure that they have the 
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And if I was to question that 
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we've covered all angles, Was 
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The resistance was coming from a
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this wrong, so you can argue, 
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but it's also coming from a 
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experience with just this 
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is individual. 
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anxious attachment style shows 
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one. 
It is slightly different that 

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minimize the opportunity for 
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Social worker to be teachable 
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I'm wanting to learn because 
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actually everything was done. 
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questioning to ensure that we've
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things may not be covered, then 
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defensive and it wasn't 
defensive to the point there was

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conflict, but it was Defensive 
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difficult to make suggestions to
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That's just my experience. 
And I'm talking about one person

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in the world here, but it's very
important that you have a you're

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reflecting as I'm talking to you
and how that may show up in your

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practice. 
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I'm going to talk about again, a
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worked with because let's think 
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If you care for yourself in the 
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and to others, Others through 
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How would the anxious attachment
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There's an intersectionality 
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nurturing to yourself. 
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me, there is around Trust. 
Trusting yourself. 

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Do you trust yourself? 
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Can you ask for help? 
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before, with this attachment 
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overindulged in work in 
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who overworked. 
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script that they have, they had 
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the script went something like 
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Am I good enough? 
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What will they say, if I do 
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we're not saying that we should 
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awareness of what space that's 
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worker. 
Super powers of the anxious 

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attachment style. 
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They can be very accurate in 
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Their BS sniffers. 
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The question is, why do you 
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Some of you may know the answer 
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survival mold feeling safe. 
Who makes me feel safe, where do

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Where do I not feel safe, right?
So if you're breaking it down to

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those four elements, the anxious
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Omar and they can see when that 
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That can also come in the, in 
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they're on high alert all the 
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they are activated. 
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activated in a place of being. 
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very powerful. 
Not always in a good way, but it

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can be useful if you're trying 
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Self care. 
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attachment Style, there has to 
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you see yourself and how you 
treating yourself how you speak 

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to yourself? 
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about some of the challenges 
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attachment style, mainly the 
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We're also explored how you can 
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Because, being able to spark BS,
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considering risk, right? 
You can be a high performer in 

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the workplace and that's a plus.
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is that you could be overworking
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place of, am I good enough? 
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have an understanding Meaning of
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How it shows up? 
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Let's explore the avoidant 
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an avoidant attachment Style. 
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support from others. 
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resistant to leadership and 
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prefer to work alone think about
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emotions and there's less 
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Now, why would an avoidant 
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benefits of that style, they can
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They can be very productive and 
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Particularly if there's a 
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get the job done. 
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not saying other styles will not
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avoidant attachment style could 
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Now the superpowers of this 
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can focus really well and finish
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style. 
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challenges and we've looked at 
the superpowers and let's think 

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about how that can show up. 
In your practice. 

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Could it be the GT rotors? 
You can hear. 

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I'm smiling with that, right? 
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intersection between anxious and
avoiding where we have the 

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disorganized type, which is 
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But those three that we've just 
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and disorganized they all sit 
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So what does this look like? 
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and you're good at forming 
strong, bonds and relationships.

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Number two, you could be least 
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completing tasks. 
Number three, better well-being,

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few symptoms of illness. 
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trusting of others. and number 
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Just want to get it done. 

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So let's think about the 
superpowers of the secure 

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attachment type that you can 
have a positive view of 

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co-workers leaders more trusting
in Authority, less fear of 

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rejection, and failure and 
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group or to UT. 
So now we've explored those. 

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Let's think about how does your 
attachment style affect you as 

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the social worker? 
How does that impact on your 

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self-care routine? 
How does that show up in your 

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practice? 
I've been Lisa Ram. 

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I am your host for the dear 
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Let's Talk podcast, this is the 
first episode and we're just 

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getting started, just getting 
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And I'd like to end with this 
question and I want you to go 

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straight onto my Spotify site 
and answer this question, click 

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interact and answer this 
question. 

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Have you ever had a time where 
you had unconditional love for 

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yourself? 
Thank you for listening to the 

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dear social worker. 
Let's Talk podcast. 

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I've been your host. 
Lisa ran a Kela. 

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Have a blessed day. 
Thank you for listening to the 

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dear social worker. 
Let's Talk podcast. 

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I've been your host. 
Lisa ran a Kela. 

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Have a blessed day.