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Let's talk This will be my 
Outlander Season 8 Episode 8 

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review titled Into the Forest. 
As always, if you were looking 

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to avoid spoilers from the book 
or the TV show, please be 

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mindful that spoilers are ahead.
So we open this episode with 

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Jamie and Marcely, who are 
standing in front of Fergus's 

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burial site next to the Cairn, 
and Marcely says that she is 

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glad it isn't raining, and Jamie
points out that rain made 

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Fergus's missing hand ache. 
Marsley says he used to joke 

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with their kids that the rain 
meant God was sneezing. 

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It was best to be sure to wipe 
the Lord's snot off of their 

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clothes before entering the 
house, and Jamie tells her that 

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his humor was the devil's own. 
Marsley chalks it up to it being

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from Jamie, but Jamie claims 
that Fergus's pig headedness was

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from him, not his humor. 
Marceline is thinking of Percy's

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offer to rebuild the print shop 
in order to keep up the work. 

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And also for the kids to have 
some sort of purpose. 

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And for herself, because she 
believes in the 'cause when she 

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was leaving Scotland, she knew 
that that meant she'd be able to

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make her own life and find 
freedom, and that's what she has

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found in America. 
So for Marceline, if she's going

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to risk her life, she wants it 
to be for something that 

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matters. 
And Jamie tells her that he 

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admires that. 
He also says it's wise to take 

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the money, and if she ever 
needed anything, she would only 

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have to ask him. 
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of punctuates that the storyline
of her taking this land didn't 

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necessarily need to be here 
because she could have come back

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to the Ridge, lived there for a 
time. 

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And again, if Jamie was going to
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what she ends up doing in this 
episode without needing to get 

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the money from the land, 
especially so soon after losing 

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Fergus. 
So it sounds like she will 

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return to Savannah with the 
money and start over in the same

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city once again. 
But in Go and Tell the Bees, 

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their storyline actually ends 
with Fergus having sent a letter

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from Wilmington, and it comes 
with German to the Ridge. 

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And in that letter, they said 
they had an event that disturbed

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them greatly, which saw them 
leave Wilmington for North 

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Carolina. 
Fergus says he wished that 

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Marcely and the kids would 
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safe, but she chose to stay, 
promising that if things got 

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worse, she and the twins would 
go to the Ridge. 

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But for now, she would not leave
Fergus. 

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And he tells Jamie he is called 
to do the work of freedom and he

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will not put his sword down, 
referring to the sword Jamie 

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placed in his hand which is 
using his printing press. 

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So their storyline is very 
open-ended for book 10. 

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Marsley says it makes her heart 
heavy that Fergus was worried 

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the money would harm the rebel 
cause, but he also never wanted 

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to acknowledge the compt as his 
father and he knew the man to be

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a villain. 
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didn't give a damn about the 
morals of a man long dead and 

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calls Jamie a fool because he 
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Jamie his father and he had 
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son and that meant everything to
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That's when we see Jamie calling
out his name by saying Fergus 

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Fraser was my son. 
And then he approaches the grave

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and says son of my name, of my 
heart, now, then and forever 

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more. 
No piece of paper nor anything 

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in this world can change that. 
And the two of them cry together

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and Marsley then decides firmly 
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sends Jamie away so she can talk
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I really love the scene because 
Marsley has that humor that 

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we've seen from her throughout 
her storyline where she points 

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out Jamie called him a Fraser 
forever more. 

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He better be happy about that. 
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will sign the contract, take the
money, build a new shop with the

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barns, and then refers to the 
Baron yet to come because she is

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pregnant. 
So Fergus has left her with a 

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parting gift. 
And she could curse him for it, 

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but she's so happy to have more 
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And this whole scene was just so
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And I said it in the previous 
episode, Lauren Lyle should win 

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an award for her performance in 
these two episodes alone because

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she truly is fantastic In every 
scene she's in, she steals. 

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That's when we get the title 
card, which is hands making a 

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fishing line, foreshadowing to 
the Jamie and William storyline.

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And then we see Roger and Brie 
return to the Ridge with the 

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muskets, with Buck and Jamie 
helping them to unload. 

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They all note that the muskets 
are old but in good shape. 

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And Jamie tells everyone that he
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Ferguson had invented a new gun 
that allowed them to load and 

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fire quicker. 
And Brie points out that Frank 

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had actually showed her the 
design of that rifle before. 

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And Jamie says he was right too,
and it was genius in its 

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invention, but hard to make in 
quantity, which is the first way

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that we're getting foreshadowing
for Bree's knowledge and 

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capability with firearms again, 
and how her perfect aim and 

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insight into these types of 
weapons is all thanks to Frank. 

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And it further illustrates how 
Frank was preparing Bree for 

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traveling to this time because 
of the very specific research he

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had been doing on that time 
period and how it was directly 

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involved with Jamie. 
Roger points out that there's no

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way to know if her shooting 
abilities are nature or nurture,

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but there is a reason that she's
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from the time she could walk. 
And this is how the show reminds

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us of the nickname, and it's in 
the dedication of Frank's book. 

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So Jamie is able to piece that 
information together. 

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But in the book, we're already 
Privy to this nickname because 

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of the passage where we read 
Frank's letter that he addresses

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to Bri as dead I. 
So it was another fun Easter egg

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to hear that called out in the 
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Jamie pulls the book back out, 
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the conversation where they 
realize that everything was for 

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Brianna, teaching how to shoot, 
how to ride, learning about the 

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past. 
It was Frank's way of preparing 

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her. 
And he was looking for Jamie, 

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knowing that Claire might try to
find him. 

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And so he armed Brianna with the
knowledge of how to survive in 

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that time. 
Jamie realizes that this book is

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not a way to taunt him, but 
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And he admits that he used to 
pray for Frank because Jamie had

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sent Claire back to him to keep 
her and Brianna safe. 

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So it feels very full circle in 
that respect. 

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Claire says again that she was 
so angry when she found out that

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Frank had kept it from her when 
he knew Jamie was alive. 

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But perhaps now she thinks he 
kept her in their time. 

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So so that she could strengthen 
her skills, become a surgeon and

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now if anything we're going to 
happen, she has the medical 

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skills to save Jamies life 
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And I do think the show softened
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the book I don't think he was 
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Their relationship was not 
depicted in the same light, but 

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it feels like they chose to wrap
his storyline in a way that 

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makes him feel more honorable, 
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Jamie and Claire both recognized
that they can't change the 

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course of history, but they can 
change small things and things 

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that may feel insignificant in 
the flow of time, which again, 

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is foreshadowing to the finale. 
And the two of them share one of

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the very few tender kisses we've
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And it does feel like a lot of 
their quiet moments are really 

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cut short and very much are sort
of info dump conversations 

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rather than tender conversations
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We then cut back to Savannah, 
where Amaranthus approaches Lord

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John. 
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but no one has seen him. 
And John tries to talk her down,

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but she fears that she might 
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And John clearly suspects there 
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going on with William, and he 
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his conversation. 
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William fought as well, and it 
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them. 
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admits that she had lied to him,
and she fears he will be unable 

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to forgive her. 
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unknowingly in the same boat in 
that respect. 

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John reminds her that William is
a man of honor and integrity, 

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but also of compassion, and he 
hopes that he is full of 

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forgiveness as well. 
And that's true for himself and 

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also for Amaranthus. 
Jamie is reading the book, 

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studying the map, and we hear 
Frank telling him that he has a 

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few months to prepare and not to
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So both he, Bree and the men are
seen studying the maps. 

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Bree is designing weapons, 
they're all training in the 

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woods with knives amongst this 
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And we can see that time is 
passing, which is also marked by

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Brianna's pregnancy. 
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working in the kitchen, we see 
Buck teaching the men hand to 

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hand combat skills. 
We see them all reunite with Ian

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and Rachel who are back from 
their trip with swiftest of 

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lizards and all of them continue
to arm themselves. 

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So this is all glossed over by 
way of a montage, which I feel 

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was another sacrifice to this 
sort of shortened and rapid 

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season that I was a little 
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Because it doesn't aid in the 
storytelling to skip over so 

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many characters after we've 
already dedicated so much time 

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with them earlier in the season,
only to eliminate that time here

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at the end. 
Buck and Roger have a 

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conversation about Gaylis and 
how Buck went back to spend time

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with her, and he says that 
Dougal was always around and 

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took his presence as a threat 
and Gaylis took his interest to 

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be of an armorous nature as 
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And Rodger did say he warned 
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So that's a nod to the book. 
Since Buck didn't have any other

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reason to be in that time or a 
reason to go back to his own 

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time because his marriage with 
his wife was so broken, he went 

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back to Craig Nadune. 
And because he knew that going 

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back to Morag was unfair and 
that she was better off without 

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him, he decided to put his fate 
in the hands of the stones and 

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they sent him back to 1980. 
In the book, Rodger leaves him 

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in 1739 and so the show takes 
this opportunity to rewrite his 

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storyline with some exposition. 
So instead they use Buck to wrap

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up the threat of Rob Cameron, 
which sort of felt anti 

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climactic and half baked to me. 
Buck tells Rodger that the first

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person he saw in 1980 was Rob 
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He watched him go into a shop, 
buy a gemstone, and then he 

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followed him home and he was 
dressed in colonial garb so Buck

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assumed he was about to go 
through the stones after the 

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Mackenzie. 
And we see him head butt him, 

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tell Rob that he owed Rodger 
McKenzie a life and that Rob's 

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would do. 
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Rob with a knife, he's able to 
use his strength and kill him. 

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Then we see him take his 
gemstone, leave him there in his

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home, takes his whole bag and 
his hat and left to go back to 

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this time. 
In book cannon though, traveling

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this much in such a short amount
of time is physically very 

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taxing and harmful. 
So much so that Bri actually 

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develops a heart issue in the 
book, but it seems like they're 

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omitting that from the show 
version. 

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That's when we see Rodger thank 
him for protecting their family 

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and Buck says free and clear 
best way to live. 

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Bri then walks up to them and 
agrees and says she has a 

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surprise for them. 
So they all go out to try her 

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new weapon that she designed, 
and she challenges Jamie to 

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race. 
So we see that she's very 

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visibly pregnant. 
So we know that it's been a 

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large passage of time by this 
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They both pour their powder race
to get the gun ready and Brie 

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shows off her version of the 
haul rifle and tells them all 

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that she can make more, and 
Jamie is very proud of her and 

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asks her to teach him how it 
works. 

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Then we cut to William 
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horseback and he's met by Claire
and Fanny in the yard and 

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they're curious as to why he's 
come and welcome him inside. 

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And the whole way that this was 
shot felt very awkward to me, 

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with them standing beside the 
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And the camera angle also felt 
sort of a subpar version of the 

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scene to me as well. 
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been, what he's been doing, 
that's when Jamie comes outside 

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and welcomes William to their 
new home. 

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And William is very formal with 
him and calls him Sir and hopes 

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he's not intruding. 
He then tells Fanny he will tell

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her about all his travels after 
dinner, assuming he's welcome at

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their table, and he directs that
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Jamie. 
But Jamie excitedly steps in 

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front of her, beaming, and says 
I, of course. 

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William had come to see him, but

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then is surprised to learn that 
he's actually there for Brie. 

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And you can see it wounds him a 
little bit, which sets up the 

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overarching storyline for the 
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That's when we cut to William 
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tells Brie about Ben and 
Amaranthus and admits that he's 

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heartbroken that she lied to 
him. 

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He's glad that Brie understands 
and says that he went to Mount 

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Josiah and needed to tell 
someone, so he came to see Brie 

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the only member of his family 
who hasn't broken his trust. 

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As a reminder, Mount Josiah is 
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book, and Fraser's Ridge is in 
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would have taken William a very 
long time to get there. 

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And he's been gone from Savannah
for a long time. 

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And it would have taken him even
longer to travel from Savannah 

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to Mount Josiah first. 
So William has essentially been 

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gone without a word for the 
better part of a year. 

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Bri is glad he came and says 
that time there might be exactly

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what he needs. 
Because this place is magical 

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and William says he doesn't 
believe in magic, but Bree asks 

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him to keep an open mind, which 
is a nod to her being a time 

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traveler. 
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everyone Jamie loves except for 
Ferguson Marsley, which again, 

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why we didn't even get to say 
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They're all enjoying dinner 
together. 

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his interaction with Denzel and 

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how well he looked and how happy
he would be to see their kids. 

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And William raises a glass to 
toast Rachel and Ian and their 

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newfound family, and Ian thanks 
him and Rachel too. 

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And Claire says William seems 
happy enough to Jamie, but Jamie

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says it's as long as he's not 
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there's tension between them. 
Rodger then makes an 

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announcement that he's been 
accepted for his application for

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ordination as a minister, and 
there's a pastor who will be 

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performing the ceremony when 
he's passing through Fraser's 

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Ridge. 
And that's when Jamie says this 

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is a happy day indeed and raises
his glass to good news, new 

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beginnings and joyous arrivals 
and to their future. 

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Everyone then says their good 
nights and Rodger and Bree tell 

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Rachel and Ian to go to bed, 
they will clean up and that's 

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when William asks if he can be 
of service. 

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But the two of them say no and 
Jamie walks in and says that 

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he's hoping to do some fishing 
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William to join him. 
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they went last together and they
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encounter with the Cherokee and 
Jamie lied to protect him and 

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William is bitter about that, 
how easily duped he was. 

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He initially denies Jamie's 
invitation and lies and says 

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that Bri is giving him a tour of
the Ridge tomorrow, but Bri 

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basically forces the issue and 
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So Rodger feeds into it and 
William is eventually forced 

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into going fishing in the 
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When Jamie leaves, he thanks 
Bree and Rodger for their help 

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and is very reluctant about it. 
But the next morning we see them

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in the river, which is a call 
back to when we saw them fishing

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the last time when he was a boy.
And Jamie points out that he has

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a fine casting line and asks if 
he went fishing often after he 

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left hell water near the a place
called the Devil's Beak. 

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Jamie and William talk about 
their time fishing there, 

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compare how many fish they 
caught there. 

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William says he caught two dozen
and brags about it and then says

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if he doesn't believe him to ask
his father, meaning Lord John. 

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conversation about Lord John. 

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So Jamie asks if he's had a 
falling out with him and if it's

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of a private nature, and that's 
when William says he discovered 

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that Lord John is a sodomite and
realizes that this might not be 

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news to Jamie. 
But William tells him that he 

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caught him with his arms around 
a man. 

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Jamie says that must have been a
shock to him, and William asks 

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if Jamie and John while at 
Ardsmere might have been lovers 

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and in Go and tell the bees that
I'm gone. 

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William learns that Richardson 
has accused Lord John of being a

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sodomite through Dennis Randall 
Isaacs, and while he immediately

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denies that claim to Dennis, 
Dennis has this really great 

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line that gossip has probably 
killed more men than musket 

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fire. 
And so Jamie counters and says 

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why would you ask me something 
like that? 

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That it isn't true. 
And William is quick to point 

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out that Jamie has no issues 
defending someone who is a liar 

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and a hypocrite. 
And that's when Jamie tells him 

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that John's life and his 
personal affairs are his own. 

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He will neither defend nor 
condemn it, but he has been his 

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father most of his life, and in 
that time he has loved him with 

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all his heart and soul and given
him everything he had to give 

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except the truth, which to 
William is most hurtful. 

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And in that respect they are 
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So he leaves Jamie in the water 
to Mull over that, and he walks 

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away angrily. 
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William's immaturity as a 
character, which I think is 

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actually more at the forefront 
in the book. 

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The show kind of tempers it down
a little bit, but this scene 

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really does a good job of 
highlighting how he can be very 

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short sighted when he storms off
and he looks like he's preparing

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to leave. 
I really loved the insertion of 

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this scene between Claire and 
William because she confronts 

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him in a way that I don't think 
Jamie ever would, and he's 

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receptive to Claire in a way 
that he would never be of Jamie 

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at this point. 
So she asks William if he's 

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planning to say goodbye or to 
storm off again, so highlighting

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that he tends to storm off quite
a bit. 

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And she points out his issues 
and calls him rightfully out on 

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his behavior. 
And he asks her to forgive him 

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and says that it was a mistake 
to come here. 

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But she points out that it was 
not an impulsive one for him to 

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come because again, he would 
have traveled very far to get 

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there. 
And he says he came for Brie, 

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but they both know he came for 
Jamie. 

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And William knows it was a 
mistake and asks Claire to at 

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least give him credit for 
knowing his own feelings about 

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the subject. 
But she says she won't discount 

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his feelings, only ask that he 
recognized they are in the 

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middle of a war. 
He says he fully recognizes that

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and is aware. 
But Claire makes a point of 

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saying this very well may be the
last time you see your father 

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alive. 
And that stuns William because 

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he says it sounds very bleak 
coming from Claire, which I 

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think is true. 
And Claire points out that he 

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may well have to lead people 
into battle again soon. 

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And William having been in the 
army, he knows what that means. 

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So she tells him to really think
about how he would feel if 

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today, this morning, was the 
last time he ever got to see his

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natural father. 
And that gives William pause. 

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And he looks out to the field 
and we see Jamie with Mandy 

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teaching her how to ride a 
horse. 

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And William's memory goes back 
to his time at Hell Water when 

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Jamie did the same thing for 
him. 

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And we see him smile fondly 
about that and then is hurt all 

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over again when he recalls Jamie
leaving. 

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But that moment is enough to 
make him stay. 

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So again, that little kind of 
tidbit of hurt that we see him 

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feel when he recalls Jamie 
leaving is more foreshadowing 

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for the big conversation that 
they'll have later on in the 

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episode. 
Inside the house, Fanny and 

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Rachel are talking on the 
stairs. 

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And Fanny says that there were 
boys at the trading post reading

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pamphlets and calling Jane a 
murderer, and that she is in the

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eternal flames of hell. 
And. 

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Fanny struck one of them, then 
ran away and Rachel can 

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understand why she felt anger 
but points out that violence 

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really brings peace and it's so 
hard for her knowing that she 

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won't see Jane again. 
But she can't stand the thought 

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that she might be stuck in the 
eternal flames of hell. 

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And that's when Rachel points 
out just because they said it 

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doesn't make it so. 
Not all that read the Bible 

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understand the full measure of 
God's mercy. 

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And she also encourages Fanny to
speak with Rodger about it. 

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So this kicks off a little 
subplot with Fanny and Rodger 

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for the episode 2. 
In Savannah we see John at his 

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desk and Amaranthus enters his 
office once again and says she 

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found a letter outside addressed
to him and she was hoping that 

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it might be a reply from 
William, but he says that he 

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doesn't think so. 
So when she leaves, he opens it 

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and finds that it's word from 
Percy, who has located the man 

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they are looking for, which we 
know is Captain Richardson, and 

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he asks John to go to his 
residence to meet him about it. 

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Back at the Ridge, Jamie is 
having all of the men prepare 

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for battle. 
And they're running drills over 

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and over again. 
And we see William approach him 

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in the woods. 
And Jamie is telling all the men

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to spread out, hold the line, 
not engage with the targets only

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after they engage with them 
first. 

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And William's watching Jamie, 
and as two soldiers, you can 

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understand that this is 
something they now have in 

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common. 
And so Jamie points out to 

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William, they aren't exactly 
British regulars. 

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He wonders if the men will 
follow orders in the smoke and 

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ashes of battle. 
And that's when we also see 

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Whitaker approach him. 
Jamie introduces William. 

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And we learned through Whitaker 
that Ferguson has burned down an

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entire settlement of free men 
when they refused to join his 

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cause. 
And so they moved to their 

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families further into the 
mountains and fled and sought 

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Jamie out. 
So when Jamie asks how he can 

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help them, he says they're 
actually there to help him by 

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joining his militia. 
And we can see that Jamie is 

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very excited to have more men 
and he offers to introduce them 

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to the rest of the troops. 
That's when William very 

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boyishly tells Jamie that they 
should go hunting in the forest 

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and asks if they can go 
together, if they have time and 

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if Jamie might want to join him.
And then he stutters and says 

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would tomorrow suit? 
And William agrees, so Jamie 

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makes fun of him by saying we'll
meet in the forest, given that 

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William sort of stumbles over 
his words and asks him multiple 

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times if they'll go hunting in 
the forest. 

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And that is the title of the 
episode. 

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Rodger is singing when Fanny 
approaches him and he asks what 

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she thinks of the song he 
selected. 

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And she points out that God is 
good to his sons, but doesn't 

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care about his daughters, and 
asks if he will be different 

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after he is ordained. 
Rodger compares his role to 

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Jamie leading his men. 
People will know Rodger is a 

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good leader too, because he will
be ordained, but he will be 

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leading them into God's hands. 
So Fanny thinks that that means 

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that he should still have a 
sword for protection. 

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But Rodger can tell that there's
something else on her mind. 

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And when he asks, she lies and 
says no. 

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But he says that he will be glad
to see what she thinks after she

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attends his ceremony, and we can
see that something is still 

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plaguing her. 
Roger is on to it as well. 

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When we finally see Jamie and 
William hunting deer. 

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We watch them shoot the deer 
together, and Jamie is praying 

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after the deer, and William is 
pacing back and forth, watching 

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him from behind. 
So when Jamie finally asks if 

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he's all right, William sort of 
blurts out that he wants to 

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apologize for what he said to 
him at the river, and that he's 

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given it a lot of thought and 
realizes that his accusation was

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malicious and beneath both of 
them. 

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He asks for Jamie's forgiveness 
and Jamie says he accepts his 

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apology and they'll never speak 
of it again. 

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And William then tells Jamie 
that at Hellwater, he looked up 

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to him because he never treated 
him like a child and was the one

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person in his life that he 
actually wanted to emulate, and 

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he worshipped him like a hero. 
And ultimately, he tells Jamie 

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that he loved him. 
But after he left at Hellwater 

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and rode away and didn't look 
back at him, he was heartbroken.

449
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,920
And he asks Jamie, I was your 
son. 

450
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,320
How could you not look back at 
me? 

451
00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:26,560
I didn't even know it then, but 
you did. 

452
00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:28,240
You were the adult in this 
situation. 

453
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,440
How could you just leave? 
And I loved this scene because 

454
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800
we haven't had a moment like 
this in the book yet. 

455
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,400
So the show kind of got to write
it however they wanted to. 

456
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,880
And Jamie's crying. 
And he says, I love you too, but

457
00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,200
I had nothing to give you. 
No name. 

458
00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,920
Money land. 
He was a Jacobite trader, 

459
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,640
distrusted and hated by every 
man who had kept his oath to the

460
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,240
king. 
And he made those choices and 

461
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,440
was prepared to live with the 
consequences. 

462
00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,200
But William, as much as he 
wanted to cry out the truth to 

463
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,840
all angels in heaven, he says, 
would have been condemned to a 

464
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,840
life of pain. 
So he did what he thought was 

465
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,320
best, which was leave. 
And he didn't look back because 

466
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,320
he knew that if he saw the look 
on William's face, it would have

467
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
shattered his resolve. 
And admits to William in a way 

468
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,680
that I think is really, really 
healing for him, that he's 

469
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:22,200
regretted that for years. 
When William came to Fraser's 

470
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,560
Ridge with John, he saw the man 
that William had become and 

471
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:30,640
knows that he had caused him 
pain when he discovered the 

472
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,400
truth. 
And for that he's sorry, but he 

473
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:35,480
really hopes that he can forgive
him. 

474
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,520
And that's when we get this 
really beautiful hug between 

475
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:41,760
William and Jamie, and the two 
of them cry in each other's 

476
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,640
arms. 
And Jamie is finally able to hug

477
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,960
his son and comfort him as a 
man. 

478
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:49,920
And it's such a beautiful 
moment. 

479
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,840
And I love the addition of Jamie
looking up to thank God, which 

480
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,600
flows right into Roger leading 
his service, everyone singing, 

481
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,680
the kids and everyone at the 
Ridge taking part of it, 

482
00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,960
including William. 
And we see Fanny enter from the 

483
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,480
back and when she makes eye 
contact with Roger, she 

484
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:11,000
immediately retreats. 
So Rodger once again can sense 

485
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,720
that something's going on with 
Fanny that he will need to 

486
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,640
address. 
So when he gets back home, he 

487
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,080
finds her pressing flowers in 
her book and approaches her and 

488
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:23,400
asks if all is well because she 
didn't stay at the ceremony. 

489
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,160
That's when she explains that 
she can't stand being in a place

490
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:31,240
where her sister isn't welcome. 
So when Rodger enters into the 

491
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,360
room and asks if he can discuss 
it with her, she makes this 

492
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,120
really snarky comment that 
unlike God, she is very 

493
00:26:37,120 --> 00:26:39,480
welcoming and will allow him to 
enter her room. 

494
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,200
And Rodger clarifies that this 
is because of how Jane died, 

495
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:46,720
right? 
Fanny thinks that she's 

496
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,280
committed mortal sins and it's 
in hell now. 

497
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,160
And Rodger says he's not sure if
that's true because the Bible 

498
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,600
says that that's the rules. 
But Rodger points out that 

499
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,840
different denominations have 
differing beliefs, and the 

500
00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:02,960
church is made-up of people, and
the rules are put in place by 

501
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:08,080
man and not by God. 
So if she thinks Jane is with 

502
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,440
God now, she should be able to 
talk to him and let him know how

503
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,080
she feels. 
It's up to Fanny to let him in 

504
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,720
if she chooses. 
And Rodger says it's helpful to 

505
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,080
be open to the idea of 
conversation with him first and 

506
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:27,920
sort of eases her into this 
concept, which I think for Fanny

507
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,360
is really healing because he's 
not telling her what to do, 

508
00:27:30,360 --> 00:27:34,680
simply offering her a solution 
to help her deal with her pain 

509
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,920
in a way that might be a little 
more healthy than how resentful 

510
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,480
she's been feeling. 
He ends their conversation with 

511
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,920
this line that Bri told him 
recently. 

512
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,000
Sometimes all you need is a 
little time. 

513
00:27:45,360 --> 00:27:48,280
And then he makes a joke about 
maybe her talking about the herb

514
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,680
instead. 
And then we see Fanny leave that

515
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:55,680
conversation and go to the Cairn
where she normally talks to Jane

516
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,360
and tell Jane that she has hope 
that she'll see her again. 

517
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,360
And she asks and begs for a sign
that Jane can hear her. 

518
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,840
And when she touches the Cairn 
and then makes her way to the 

519
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,920
water, we see her picking up a 
stone that is green and dropping

520
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:13,440
it because it's hot to the touch
and burns her hand. 

521
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,320
And when she picks it up again, 
we hear the buzzing and we see 

522
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,520
her watching the stone shatter 
in her hand and put her hands 

523
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760
over her ears, which confirms to
us that Fanny is a time 

524
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,360
traveler. 
This very much feels like a show

525
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:33,720
only change to potentially weave
this character into the Blood of

526
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,720
My Blood series, which I don't 
necessarily feel we need to do, 

527
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,120
but they've spent so much time 
setting it up and then 

528
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:45,320
confirming it in this scene that
it feels too intentional to not 

529
00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,280
have some sort of a payoff in 
the Blood of My Blood series. 

530
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
And it's not that I don't like 
the character of Fanny, because 

531
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,640
I actually think this actress is
a really talented little actress

532
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,280
and she does a wonderful job as 
her. 

533
00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,920
It's just all show only writing 
that doesn't necessarily fit 

534
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:05,560
into the story, I know. 
And so I'm not sure what her 

535
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,960
character in this capacity adds 
to the overarching storyline. 

536
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:13,000
But I think for myself and 
hopefully for other people 

537
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,400
watching the show, it's 
important to remember that Blood

538
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:19,040
of My Blood is entirely new 
material too. 

539
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,240
So if they 2 choose to use 
Fanny, that's fine because she's

540
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,280
going into a narrative that 
doesn't exist in the book Canon.

541
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,760
At the solicitor's office, we 
see John waiting to meet Percy, 

542
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,480
pacing back and forth. 
And Percy arrives late and he's 

543
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,200
clearly nervous and offers John 
some Sherry. 

544
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:39,840
And John says no and impatiently
asks if he's found Captain 

545
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,840
Richardson. 
And when he asks where he is, we

546
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,000
see Richardson knock John 
unconscious. 

547
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,600
And that's how the episode ends.
One thing that I personally 

548
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640
thought was missing from the 
show version of the story is 

549
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,080
Richardson getting between 
William and Brianna. 

550
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,160
Because in the book Richardson 
actually meets William near 

551
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:05,000
Charlestown and tells William I 
know your sister as a means of 

552
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,400
threatening him. 
And William then writes Bri a 

553
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:12,440
letter about it, warning her 
about him and actually signs 

554
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,600
that letter as your brother, 
which is a significant moment in

555
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,680
the book for me. 
And he also sends a sketch of a 

556
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:24,280
picture of Richardson to Bree. 
And she is then able to pinpoint

557
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,280
the fact that he is a time 
traveler and he was one of the 

558
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:30,520
men that was at Lally Brock when
her family was being attacked in

559
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,160
Season 7. 
And it all ties back to Frank's 

560
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,280
warning in his letter debris 
about Rob, Cameron and 

561
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,800
Richardson going back in time 
after her and people in the 

562
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,920
future knowing that she is a 
time traveler. 

563
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:47,280
So we see how the show made 
changes to that storyline in 

564
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,800
episode 9. 
But I do think that for all the 

565
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,960
work and groundwork they've done
to make William and Bree closer,

566
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,400
that storyline and his 
protectiveness over her when it 

567
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,640
comes to Richardson was 
something I actually really 

568
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,800
enjoyed in the book and I would 
have liked to see in the show. 

569
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,640
But I I understand that they had
to rework a lot of it and this 

570
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,200
ended up getting cut for for 
that reason.

