1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,960 Now we come to the next part of the call, which is part 7, 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,920 because I said there are 10 hallmarks of the call. 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:10,360 And as I've said and as Claire reinforced with different 4 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:14,280 language, we are called to someone before something. 5 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,320 And so the first call is actually the call to be with 6 00:00:17,400 --> 00:00:19,280 Jesus. That is fundamentally the call. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,160 Everything else is a Commission to walk out of that 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:24,240 relationship. Then we looked at the call to 9 00:00:24,240 --> 00:00:28,360 holiness, which Claire unpacked for us in a in a different angle 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:30,680 as well, which is wonderful. And then now we're in the court 11 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:32,360 of the something to the Great Commission. 12 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,120 And within the story we've been looking at, which is when Jesus 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,960 called the first disciples, there are 10 hallmarks of the 14 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:41,720 call to walk in the Great Commission. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,320 Can we just have those up on the screen? 16 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:45,200 Let's just give ourselves a bit of a reminder. 17 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,480 The first one is God calls us at the point where we feel weak and 18 00:00:48,480 --> 00:00:50,280 tired. Do I get an Amen in the house? 19 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:54,040 Yeah, that's true #2 It will require us to go deeper than we 20 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:56,760 did before. You know, Jesus said now push 21 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:00,160 out into the deep that is part of one's Kingdom principle. 22 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,600 We're going deeper and deeper with the Lord #3 It doesn't 23 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,640 always seem to make sense to us. His ways are higher than our 24 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,960 ways. #4 It requires obedience to His word. 25 00:01:07,960 --> 00:01:11,600 That's the nevertheless moment. Nevertheless, in spite of what I 26 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,200 think I know, in spite of the fact this is what Simon Peter 27 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,600 said, that we've been fishing all night and caught nothing. 28 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,680 And that's when professionals fish at night. 29 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,000 I'll do it, Lord. And what happened? 30 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:26,800 Nevertheless, moment opened up a doorway into .5, which is there 31 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,680 is blessing in the call. And number six, the call comes 32 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:32,720 with others. And that leads us to number 7. 33 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,520 And let me just read some scripture to us in the story, 34 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,960 the story's found in John Five one to 10, and we're going to 35 00:01:41,960 --> 00:01:45,520 look at a portion in the story in verses 6 to 9. 36 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,880 So let me read this now. It'll be on the screen, in the 37 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,560 room, and online. It'll be on your screen. 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,240 And when they had done this, they enclosed a large number of 39 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:54,360 fish. This is the moment, the 40 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,680 nevertheless moment when Jesus said, listen, put your net over 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,040 the side and there was a massive amount of fish, and their Nets 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 were breaking. They signaled to their partners 43 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:05,880 in the other boat to come and help them, and they came and 44 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,320 filled both the boats. So they began to sink. 45 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:12,960 That signifies the abundance of God's blessing. 46 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,840 But when Simon Peter saw it, listen, He fell down at Jesus's 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,960 knees saying, Depart from me, for I am a sinful man, oh Lord. 48 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:31,000 He and all who were with him were astonished at the catch of 49 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,960 fish they had taken. What is going on in this story 50 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,320 when it reveals Hallmark #7, which is this? 51 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:43,600 He reveals himself to us, and we respond in worship to him. 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,400 You see, the doing bit is always an invitation to know him more. 53 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:54,680 The doing bit is always an opportunity to find out more 54 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,240 about him and his character and who he is. 55 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,480 And you see we get to the point in that this story, we've done 56 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,720 all the other hallmarks and there is this revelation of of 57 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:09,080 the fact that Simon Peter was in the presence of the living God 58 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,780 and he just. You. 59 00:03:15,030 --> 00:03:20,270 See, God doesn't need you just to go and do stuff for him. 60 00:03:20,920 --> 00:03:22,360 Like, I need my kids to do stuff. 61 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:23,880 Darling, can you empty the dishwasher, please? 62 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Or whatever it might be? God doesn't need you to do stuff 63 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,480 for him. What he wants is you to walk in 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,160 the Commission so you know him more. 65 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,440 And this is what we see in the story. 66 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,880 And so I thought, wouldn't it be lovely, as we unpack this 67 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:41,520 Hallmark to have a conversation with our wonderful worship 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,960 pastor and unpack what worship is all about. 69 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,680 So can we welcome our wonderful worship Pastor Eduardo, to the 70 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:53,160 stage? It's good to have you up. 71 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,120 Here, brother. Wonderful. 72 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,000 Wow, so good. I even have a cup of water 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:03:58,360 first. You. 74 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Even have some water. Come on. 75 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,600 So, so good. What a great story here. 76 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,000 You know, we get to this Worshipful moment. 77 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:13,120 We get to this moment where Simon Peter becomes really aware 78 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:18,200 of Jesus and he just says, you know, it gets on his knees. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,800 I mean he could have said, oh nice catch, well on Jesus High 80 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,320 5, but something else happened. Why do you think that was the 81 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:24,160 case? What was going on? 82 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,280 Yeah, and the first thing to notice that Jesus stood there, 83 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:30,160 he didn't leave, right? That shows like the kindness of 84 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:34,480 the kindness of our Savior. But for sure Peter was like so 85 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,400 overcome by the kindness of the lawyers, the wisdom, the 86 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:42,800 generosity, the superiority. And then even we see, like when 87 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:48,960 even the in Matthew chapter 827, when Jesus comes the storm, 88 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,160 people ask the same question like the men like this, He says 89 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,040 the men were amazing. Asked what kind of man is this? 90 00:04:58,280 --> 00:05:03,320 Even the wings and the ways obey him, Like Peter was just over so 91 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,280 overcome by the kindness of the Lord. 92 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:10,440 I feel like that's the first thing that happened and we know 93 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,480 that feeling right. Sometimes we feel so unworthy, 94 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,200 ashamed, and so convicted by things. 95 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,680 But that's exactly what Jesus is looking at. 96 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,160 Disciple. Someone who knows they don't 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:28,560 deserve status or power. I'll repeat that again. 98 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,920 Jesus looking for what? Jesus looking at the side with 99 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,880 someone who knows they don't deserve status or power. 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,960 And the first thing that happened there, it was the 101 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:45,560 change of the mind, which is the Greek word for metanoia means 102 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,280 repentance. And then I got a reminder of the 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Psalm 51, verse 12, that says restore to me the joy of your 104 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:01,440 salvation and grant me a willing spirit to sustain me. 105 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,200 How beautiful is that? It's powerful. 106 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,560 And then can I carry on? Please, my Lord. 107 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,400 I'm loving it. The things like the goodness of 108 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,640 the Lord leads us into repentance. 109 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,920 That's the beautiful of our Jesus that it says that in 110 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,680 Romans 2 that the goodness of the Lord leads us in repentance. 111 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:29,680 And I really love the message version that says in In Kindness 112 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:35,080 he takes us firmly by hand and lead us into a radical life 113 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:39,360 change. Radical life change. 114 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,520 I love that because I mean, we see that in the story there was 115 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,040 a radical life change that happened with Simon Peter. 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,960 So I needed to get a new name in a day of new names. 117 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,560 Pete said, Jesus said you'll be called Peter Build My Rock, but 118 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,240 he radically changed his life. He went and fished for men. 119 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:58,040 And so I love the way you've unpacked that. 120 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:03,440 And I love the the point here, which is that the kindness of 121 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,200 Jesus was the thing that leads us to change our mind. 122 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,320 And. And I think in this, you get a 123 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,680 sense, don't you, that Simon is just so astonished by the 124 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,360 goodness and the kindness of Jesus with this provision. 125 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,040 It's just like I am in the presence of almighty God. 126 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,640 OK, Let me ask you another, another question. 127 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:25,280 Give it to me. I'll give it to you right here 128 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,760 it is. Now you are our worship pastor, 129 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:29,160 and we're blessed to have you as such. 130 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,320 And you know, I love seeing you worship. 131 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:34,480 I get the opportunity to see this man during the week, and 132 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,440 he's a Worshipful man. He's always worshiping God. 133 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,840 But here's the thing, What about when we don't feel like it? 134 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Let's be can we be honest with each other? 135 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:47,360 Like, like, it's almost like, I mean, Simon could have said, 136 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,920 wait, well done, Jesus. That was really good. 137 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:53,240 Thank you And move on. So how do we worship God? 138 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,280 How do we do all the stuff you're talking about when life 139 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,760 is tough and we don't feel like it? 140 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,240 Yeah, I'd love to address something before that. 141 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:06,160 And the message version says that God is kind but he's not 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,320 soft. And then he that it leads into 143 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,280 that it carries on in that verse that he in kindness he takes us 144 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,720 firmly by hand and lead us into radical life change. 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,600 But the second thing that happened there was like that was 146 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:21,440 an act of alteration from Peter. And then in the Hebrew words is 147 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,320 the word Barack that means to new. 148 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:29,360 But when we Barack God we all offer ourselves to him in a 149 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:33,919 humble humbles submission. So we we. 150 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:37,000 That's the thing about like we you know what Peter tried their 151 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:37,840 way. Like Jesus. 152 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,520 You know what you don't? You have, you haven't done this 153 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,440 before. But the things like like Jesus 154 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,640 dying in the cross to show us that we can win sin. 155 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:51,280 We have victory over. Sin we have victory over sin and 156 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,240 then like like even like even some language Jesus got 157 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,600 attempted to murder someone that what really means he could he 158 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:03,840 got he that the reason that he died in the cross is to so for 159 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,640 you for us to know that like we can do we can overcome sin and 160 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:13,600 then after that posture when we knew when we Barack, when he 161 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:17,760 also offer ourselves into the Lord that's when his goodness 162 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,280 leads us into repentance and that's just his blessing over 163 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,280 us. But then I know sometimes we 164 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:28,600 don't feel most of the time to if I can be very honest with 165 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,520 you, I don't feel anything. Wow. 166 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:32,080 OK, this is a safe place. So you're fine? 167 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,680 Yeah. Don't worry about the thousands 168 00:09:33,680 --> 00:09:35,600 of watch us online. Yeah, we're in a safe place 169 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,400 here. But The thing is, guys, we have 170 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,160 tasted, we have seen that the Lord is. 171 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:42,440 Good. Amen. 172 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,600 Yeah, come on. And we have enough proves in the 173 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,680 Bible and the Bible is enough and the cross of the Lord is 174 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:51,160 sufficient for us. Preach it, brother. 175 00:09:51,560 --> 00:09:55,520 That will lead us into of repentance, adoration, 176 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,160 submission. Wow, that's powerful. 177 00:10:05,560 --> 00:10:09,600 So what you're saying there is that like, and I'm reminded of 178 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,320 Romans 12/1, which says, brothers and sisters, Paul says 179 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,400 to the church in Rome in light of God's mercy, in light of the 180 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,040 fact that he died for you. That is enough to offer 181 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:22,280 yourselves as a living sacrifice. 182 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:25,440 And then he says that is your act of worship. 183 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,360 Yeah. And so our worship isn't about 184 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,080 how we feel. It's not about the fact that 185 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:33,160 we've got a good day and and God's give. 186 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:35,160 It seems like God has given us all we need. 187 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,640 It's rooted in the reality of who He is and what He's done 188 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:39,960 for. Us. 189 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Yeah. We got to put God's character in 190 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:43,840 front of our feelings when we come to. 191 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:44,360 Worship. Wow. 192 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,360 Yeah, OK, that's quite a challenge. 193 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:51,520 It is because it means that we need to surrender and we don't 194 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,000 like to surrender. I don't like surrender. 195 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,520 I mean, we have such negative connotations with the word 196 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:58,640 surrender, but God is calling us to surrender. 197 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,120 Yeah, and I'll say as well, like, even Thanksgiving is the 198 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,120 gateway for the throne room. Even if you're not, you're not 199 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,880 feeling anything. Start to put Thanksgiving in 200 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:11,480 your mouth. Stop. 201 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,240 Be Thanks for the Lord, for the small thing. 202 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,800 Lord, thank you for the air in my lungs, because that's enough. 203 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,680 Because that means like his promises to Yes and they made in 204 00:11:19,680 --> 00:11:24,360 our lives and I really love the you guys all know the some 100 205 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:26,120 enter his gates with Thanksgiving, his court with 206 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,680 praise. But I love the message version 207 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:32,040 that says enter with the password thank you. 208 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,400 How beautiful is that? How beautiful is that? 209 00:11:36,680 --> 00:11:40,520 Even like the, there's another worship term that you can call 210 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,400 it. It's a Hebrew word, say yada, 211 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:47,880 the word that invites us to raise hands in Thanksgivings. 212 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,680 So how can this help us in worship? 213 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,320 I think it's very essential for us to recognize that we are a 214 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:04,000 physical beings in our outwork, outward action, impact our 215 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,600 inward spirit. Can I just pause you on that? 216 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,200 That's really interesting because like, we're all 217 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,720 different types of people. Some of us introverts, some of 218 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:17,360 extroverts, some of us have been brought up where, you know, we 219 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,800 stand for songs. Sit down, stand up. 220 00:12:19,560 --> 00:12:22,600 But I think what you're saying is it's more than just how you 221 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,160 feel and more than what your upbringing is. 222 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,440 In terms of a worship environment, there is something 223 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:31,120 powerful about posturing our bodies in an outward. 224 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,760 I mean, I'm reminded of David when he came in front of the Ark 225 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,640 and they got the Ark back from the Palestine and they come into 226 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,000 Jerusalem and he's dancing like a crazy man in front of that. 227 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:43,000 And, you know, so there is something, isn't there, I guess 228 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:45,360 about saying, you know what? I'm going to forget about what 229 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:47,840 people think around me. I'm going to forget about being 230 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,080 inhibited because I'm British and I have a stiff upper lip and 231 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,760 I'm going to put my hands up because there's something 232 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:59,480 powerful about and symbolic about posturing my body and that 233 00:12:59,560 --> 00:13:01,040 does something to my heart. That's what you're saying, 234 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:01,720 aren't? You. 235 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:06,000 Yeah, exactly. And so often we come to this 236 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,280 kind of holy gathering, the holy of the Saints here with that we 237 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,040 can call it as a corporate environment. 238 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,360 We are doing this together. But so often we come with our 239 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:23,120 individual mindset, the thing. And then I go in mind of Psalm 240 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:27,720 116 verse 13 that says I will lift up the COP the cup of 241 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,520 salvation and call on the name of the Lord. 242 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:34,200 Guys, Salvation is not a private matter. 243 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:35,760 He has to overflow. Wow. 244 00:13:36,680 --> 00:13:38,040 Even. Say that again. 245 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,440 That's that's really powerful. Let's listen to this say. 246 00:13:40,560 --> 00:13:43,240 Again, salvation is not a private matter he has to 247 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,720 overflow. The question now is like, is 248 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,080 your cop overflowing? Because that will help us that 249 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,080 our brother and our sister to worship. 250 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:54,640 That's interesting. So I think we create an 251 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:56,640 atmosphere of worship around us, don't we? 252 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,440 I mean, that's true. If you walk into a room and 253 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:03,480 everyone's going, thank you, Jesus, you're like, wow. 254 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,800 But if you walk into a room and people are engaged and they're 255 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 posturing their worship not based on how they feel, but who 256 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:13,360 God is, which is what you said earlier, And that there it 257 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,480 changes the atmosphere in the room. 258 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:20,160 I'm reminded of the scripture that says a garment of praise 259 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:24,120 for a spirit of heaviness. That's strong. 260 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:27,680 I can't recall where it is in the in the Bible. 261 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,680 Someone will know. Someone is Googling right now, a 262 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:33,200 garment of praise for spirit of heaviness, because often times I 263 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,360 think we feel like this. I'm feeling really heavy, so I'm 264 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,440 just going to lie down. God knows. 265 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,000 Of course he does. Maybe God is saying listen I've 266 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,800 got the medicine for you because when you praise it shifts the 267 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:51,120 atmosphere and what you are doing is you are fixing your 268 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,600 eyes on the author and perfector of your faith Jesus. 269 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:56,720 And that's what I love about that. 270 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:02,040 Now just just moving on as we think about worship and worship 271 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,600 as as the Vineyard movement and we're proud to be part of the 272 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:08,920 Vineyard movement. 150 churches in the UK, 2 1/2 thousand 273 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:13,640 globally and worship has always been a priority for us. 274 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,920 We want to rush into His presence and we talked about 275 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 today is a significant day. It's a new name, next chapter, 276 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,600 but same story. And we are now Verso Vineyard 277 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:29,160 Church, but we've also got a new name for our worship ministry. 278 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,360 It's going to be up on the screen. 279 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:35,120 It's Verso music. So can you maybe explain to us? 280 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,240 Yeah, we've got some groups in the room. 281 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:42,400 We can be excited. What is this all about, Eduardo? 282 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,680 Why is this important? What does it mean for us as a 283 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,640 body of people here at Verse Adventure Church? 284 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:48,080 Wow. Wow. 285 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:53,640 I feel like the Lord is doing just so much in this church, and 286 00:15:54,000 --> 00:16:01,920 I feel like the I feel like our our job is to steward his 287 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:06,520 presence well instead of. I really want to make us think 288 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:10,640 about this. So often we say welcome, Holy 289 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Spirit and all that, but instead, what if we say let's 290 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:19,160 host his presence? Well, let me explain a little 291 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:20,800 bit now, yeah. That's an interesting point, Go. 292 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:22,920 Ahead, yeah. The whole point about it is more 293 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,480 about like you making a way for the Lord, let's say the Lord. 294 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,000 Just imagine Jesus walking down the aisle and why he stopped 295 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,880 walking down the aisle. We're casting, casting all the 296 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,160 titles, all the things, anxiety, depression, everything you put 297 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,720 aside. And then when Jesus sits on the 298 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:46,240 throne and he be like just bring everything I am in the right 299 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,720 place right now instead of like putting him in front of 300 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,800 everything that's going on. Just another thing, just you 301 00:16:53,880 --> 00:17:00,280 that we can address is the Psalm 23 that says like the your rod 302 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,440 and your stuff comfort me, they comfort me. 303 00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:08,280 And there are two things going on there that when I was praying 304 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:12,040 for the vineyard music and all of that, which is very exciting. 305 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,319 The rod, it's a weapon that the shepherd's would have to fight 306 00:17:16,319 --> 00:17:18,800 off wolves, lions and beasts in the wilderness. 307 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,800 And the stuff is the tool used by the shepherd to correct and 308 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,240 guide his flock. But there's something really 309 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:30,000 profound there. Let's say we have the shepherd 310 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:36,760 leading, but imagining like the the the he says in something 311 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,280 three that his goodness in his mercy will follow. 312 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,680 Just imagine these two words as like the the dog watch. 313 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:51,440 We have the shepherd, we have the mercy, we have the goodness. 314 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,640 And above that we have the presence guiding us. 315 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:00,440 And it says like even if you walk through valley and the 316 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:03,960 valley doesn't mean like, oh, someone was mean to me or like 317 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:06,440 I'm not feeling good, anything like that. 318 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,440 Then the the, the root word for that, like it's something really 319 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,360 dark. It's something that is like in 320 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,760 your veins like you can't get out of it. 321 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:19,080 But this, this says like I will fear no evil because you have 322 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,000 the shepherd leading. We'll have the dog watch the 323 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:24,600 mercy and the goodness follow pursuing you. 324 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,120 And we have the presence walking together. 325 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,240 So then when I was thinking about the Versa music, I was 326 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:37,960 like, Lord, we want to create places and spaces so we can host 327 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:43,040 your presence well in our means. So the invitation is for us all. 328 00:18:43,120 --> 00:18:47,000 I really want to ask to stop. I really want us to be like 329 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,040 instead of being like just an expectator. 330 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:53,720 But like, I'm like, I really want you guys to just 331 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,640 participate and worship We our cup has to overflow. 332 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,440 Has to overflow. I feel like this is the the 333 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,560 whole meaning around the the the wider verse of music. 334 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:11,360 Why we are creating this name so we can it's like to steward the 335 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:13,240 presence of the Lord. Well, I feel like this stuff 336 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,600 pretty much all that. You know, I really love that 337 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,920 because I think that's an interesting distinction, which 338 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,640 is we often say come Holy Spirit. 339 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,760 And I think that is a wonderful thing for us to want to be 340 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,800 intentional being in His presence. 341 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,760 But I think sometimes we can think that he's sitting there 342 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:32,840 thinking I'll only come when you ask me to come. 343 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:36,280 But we need to be aware sometimes of his presence is 344 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:38,880 with us always. And I think what's interesting 345 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,240 in this story with with Simon Peter in the boat is that it 346 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:45,240 wasn't he didn't worship because he said OK, Jesus, can you come 347 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:49,320 into my boat now? He was aware all of a sudden of 348 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,000 the presence of Jesus. And I think often times we 349 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,760 forget that he is with us and it's about, Lord, would you make 350 00:19:55,760 --> 00:19:57,600 me aware of your presence right now? 351 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,280 There's something powerful in that. 352 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,840 And I like what you talked about hosting his presence, which is 353 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:06,280 about saying I recognize that he is on the throne and I'm going 354 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:09,720 to cast my crowns and my titles and I'm going to cast everything 355 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:11,320 and I'm going to get on my knees in front of him. 356 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,920 And that's what we that's what we mean when we say host his 357 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:17,280 presence well, which is recognize that God is here. 358 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,960 And that we need to respond in. Worship. 359 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,880 Yeah, in Hebrew. Chapter 4 says for the word of 360 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:33,720 God is living inactive guys. We don't serve a passive God and 361 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:37,840 we got as a as his people. We got a response to that not 362 00:20:38,120 --> 00:20:43,040 not only here, not only here, but like a workplace, 363 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:47,200 universities, college, even the way you son and daughter, you 364 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:50,640 treat your parents, all of that. Yeah, that's absolutely. 365 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,240 It's the whole package. Yeah, I love that. 366 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:55,520 So with Versum music, our mission, Jesus is our ultimate 367 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,360 goal, and we long to create spaces to host his presence. 368 00:20:59,360 --> 00:21:03,080 Well, it's powerful. I mean, that's our heart here. 369 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:06,160 Our our heart. Our ultimate goal is about 370 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,280 people encountering Jesus. It's about us encountering 371 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,000 Jesus. It starts with us first. 372 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,360 And we wanted to create spaces to host his presence. 373 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:14,560 Well, so who are we then? Who what? 374 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,360 What is Verso music then? Let me to read it. 375 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:18,520 Yeah, man. I don't know. 376 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:19,920 If you can read it from there, have you got it? 377 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:21,640 Here you can turn around and look on the screen. 378 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,720 Verse of music is the minister of verse of Venia Church that 379 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,840 promotes and stewards the manifestation and creation of 380 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,320 all worship out of our encounters with Jesus. 381 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,400 This is who we are. You know, I absolutely love that 382 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,880 because there is an intentionality that we have here 383 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,760 as a church to steward those encounters well and create songs 384 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,240 that people can sing and encounter Jesus, you know, God 385 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,000 has given us so much here as a church and he continues to give 386 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:57,880 us more and more. And it's so, isn't it? 387 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,000 The temptation. Let's just have a holy huddle on 388 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,640 a Sunday and enjoy the worship here. 389 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,120 But God is calling us to steward those moments and the songs that 390 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:09,560 are coming so that we can bless people around us and people can 391 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,640 encounter Jesus. And so Verso music is going to 392 00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:15,840 be the vehicle in which we will be blessing the border body of 393 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,400 Christ with new songs, new music. 394 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,400 And I'm really excited about the future there for verse of music. 395 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,440 Very exciting. So we spent some time talking. 396 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,400 Let me try and maybe sum up for us. 397 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,080 You see, what we're seeing here is that the invitation of Jesus 398 00:22:33,360 --> 00:22:35,600 on the Great Commission isn't about. 399 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,600 I need you to do stuff. It's all about an invitation to 400 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,840 encounter him in that moment. When we look to that you look at 401 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:44,360 through the all the other hallmarks, it's all about a 402 00:22:44,360 --> 00:22:48,680 revelation of who God is, an opportunity for us to know Him 403 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,880 more. And we get to the Hallmark where 404 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:55,240 there has to be a response in our hearts to that revelation. 405 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,360 And there is this powerful illustration with Simon that he 406 00:22:59,360 --> 00:23:04,120 gets on his knees and all of a sudden he realizes not just who 407 00:23:04,120 --> 00:23:08,760 God is, but who he is. What we see here is a moment of 408 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,360 humility and saying, I am not God. 409 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,000 In fact, please get away from me. 410 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,840 You are holy. It reminds you of Isaiah when he 411 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,040 he experiences God and he says I've disintegrated. 412 00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,920 That's modern vernacular to say I am undone. 413 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,960 There is a revelation and it causes us to surrender all. 414 00:23:29,120 --> 00:23:31,240 But you know what Jesus says, do not be afraid. 415 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:35,280 Do not be afraid. And I think that's the 416 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,080 invitation for us this morning, which is this. 417 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:40,080 Do we really want to encounter the living God? 418 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:43,720 Do you really want to encounter the presence of God? 419 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:48,800 Because if your answer is yes, it demands a response from us, 420 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:54,160 which is worship and surrender, not based on how we feel, not 421 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,520 based on our circumstances, but based on the truth of who he is 422 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,400 and who we are. Eduardo, thank you for unpacking 423 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,000 that with us. Yeah, let's encourage. 424 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:05,600 Very welcome.