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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the way you say
Anime. I am your House Peter.
On today's episode we got a fun one and it's been what I've been
waiting to do for ever since we actually got the nominations for
this. We are recapping and I am blind
reacting to the Crunchyroll Awards.
Awareness came out and I have been cut off from social media
and discord for two days in order not to be spoiled.
So in my steed we got Miles, who will be curating today's
episode. Miles, why don't you tell the
people what we got in store for today's episode?
Yes, so one, I think this is a fun little switch from our like
end of the year. What do you say anime things
where you know the answers and I'm you know and Pat and Cosette
are guessing, but here we get to see your reactions. 2.
This is a little fun for me because some of the shows you
were salty about getting so many noms.
I am, I guess, oddly enough, a huge stand for SO Doesn't really
fit my normal profile, but alas. So a few things.
First, we won't be going over the foreign language categories
because other than English, because we didn't watch any of
those dubs and therefore cannot judge them properly.
But I did want to give the winners a shout out, you know,
just in case anyone was watching this and knew them or whatever,
and you know, not to exclude them entirely.
And then I'm going to do this. And then let's get into how
we're going to present this and a little game or two that I've
added because I love games, we all love them.
But for best, I'm going to butcher these names.
And I apologize if I do, but I don't know how to pronounce
Hindi names. For example, for best hint, no,
I don't. Hindi voice actor.
We have Law Hit Sharma in the role of Satro Gojo for JJK.
For the best Latin Spanish, we have Miguel Angel Leo for Aaron
Jaeger for Attack on Titan. The best Italian VA we have
Illinois. Oh God, Ilaria Pele Pelecon for
Kyomoto from look back, the best German VA, we have Daniel Slosh
as Luffy from or Luffy even from One Piece.
I mean, I'm just like reading. I'm in like read foreign word
things. So I just like, yeah, caught
myself For best French VA we have Adrian Anton as Kafka
Hibino from Kaiju #8 and best Castilian Spanish VA we have
Masumi Mutsuda as Sung Jin Wu from Solo Leveling.
OK, so Pete and audience, the way that this is going to work
is I will show you, you know, who's on the screen as
nominations for the categories. If it is highlighted in a Blue
Square, that is a show that I voted for.
If it is in a Red Square, that doesn't show Pete voted for.
And if it's purple, that means we both voted for it.
Some of these categories you could, you could bet on if you
like, you could bet money. So I went and looked that up and
I just took whatever the favorite was like at the morning
of the day of the awards. And that only really changed one
category, like my arbitrary cut off because and, and I'll talk
about that when I get there. But if you see that it has a
little dollar sign in the corner.
And Pete, I know you're a gambling man, so you know, so I
thought highlighting that aspect would be, would be kind of fun
as well. I've also created three over
unders for you for the two shows that you were salty that got so
many noms and then for Free Rin, which is one of your favorite
shows? It is.
So, and I will just say real quick for anyone out there
that's listening, if you want to see our visual content, it's on
Spotify and YouTube. So if you are listening to us on
another platform outside those and you want to see visual
content, swing over to those two.
We have visual content there. Yes, and I will be doing my best
to highlight the things that aren't said like that.
I have visual cues for if you're listening, if you're an audio
only person. But if I forget I apologize but
know that there is a video if you really care for whatever
reason what Pete or I voted. For.
OK, so let's get your over unders in really quick.
So I have these three set. I just sort of did it vibes
vibesy freer in. I have it 6.5 awards.
OK, I have Kaiju #8 at 2.5 and solo levelling at 5.5.
Would you like to let me know if you want to go over or under
these? Yeah, so like it's like with
Free Ren and the other two, what is like based off of my personal
opinion, like what I actually think should win and what I
actually think will win. So I think Free Ren should go,
but knowing the Crunchyroll awards, I'm going to go under 6
1/2 wins. OK.
For Kaiju #8 I'll go over 2 1/2 and for soul leveling I'll go
over 5 1/2. OK, I have your answer's down
and we'll see at the end how you did all.
Right, right on. I hope I'm wrong, but I well.
There you have you have three chances to be wrong.
OK, so let's cross. So maybe you'll you'll be both.
All right. Now let's get to our first
category. Hell yeah.
We have best voice artist performance and this is the
English so we have 6 noms here. We have AJ Beckles as Okaroon
and Dan to Dan, Alex Lee as Jung Jinlu from solo Levelling.
We have Jesse James Grell is Armin from Attack on Titan,
Mallory Rodak as Free Run from Free Run, Sarah, NATO Chini as
Alia from Alia and Song Wancho as Shinchi from Dungeon Meshi.
Shout out to Percy you voted for Sung LAN Cho as Sinchi and I
voted for Alex Lee as Sung Jean Wu.
Yep. Yeah, there's a this one I'm not
super strong on because I watch I would say 95% of my seasonal
animes in sub, but I did watch delicious and dungeon parts of
it in English and I loved pro ZD like I thought he was incredible
as a sun tin She. So that was my pick.
I really I'm a big fan of like Alex Lee in general, so if he
won, I'd be cool with that. This is one of those categories
where like I don't really have like a strong opinion on just
because I don't feel burst well enough to have like a strong
opinion. I just like those too.
So I picked prosy D Alex Lee would be cool.
I feel like he probably will win because it's so leveling, but
you'll have to let me know. Yeah.
I guess what I would say is that if I were to, there was no
betting market for this one. But if there was, I would say
the two that you highlighted would probably be favorites just
because of their strong social media presence.
Pro ZD does talk about his VA performances and stuff
sometimes, but Alex Lee sort of has a really good like rapport
with fans and he does he like loves being Song Jing Wu, right?
Like he does a ton of, you know, shorts and everything just about
that. And I think that that along with
the popularity of solo levelling would probably, you know, give
him an advantage. Like I I'm all about it, right?
Like I voted for him. I just like seeing him say erect
or whatever, like wakey wakey instead of her eyes, like, you
know, which isn't this season, but you're watching those shorts
while you're voting for this, right?
So it's gonna affect your perception of it, but, well,
drum roll, we'll get to the winner.
And that is Alex Lee as Sungjin Wu from Solo Level.
How cool with that? Yeah, I I think most people are
going to be OK with this. Even the people who are anti
solo level and getting as many nominations as it did would be
fine with this one. But that brings us to our next
category. Best Voice Artist Performance in
Japanese is our next category. We have Ali Yuki as Mao Mao from
Apothecary Diaries and both me and you voted for her.
We have Atsumi Tanazaki is Free Run from free run.
We have Kenichi Suzumura as Bravern from Bravern noticing a
naming convention for a lot of these shows.
We have Shiyan Wakayama is Momo from Dan to Dan.
We have Sayaka SIM Bongi as Marcel from Delicious and
Dungeon, and we have Natsuki Hanai as Okaroon from Dan to
Dan. What are your thoughts on this
selection here, Pete? Yeah, it sucks that Crunchyroll
hates Billy Billy. For some reason they never
include their shows for me. I think that Sayori Hayami from
Gigi Harem who did Ren should have been in this category.
She was my winner for best Japanese voice actress.
I thought she like nobody was even close to her in my opinion
this year. So picking somebody from these
six, I went with Mao Mao. I think Free Run was a close
second. I did really enjoy her voice
actress, but I think Ali Yuki does just a phenomenal job as
Mao Mao. I think she really like hones
into that character and adds an element to what makes Apothecary
Diaries what it is. So that's why I picked her.
But I would I would have loved to see Sayori Hayami in this
category, even if it was for a character that wasn't Rin, just
because I thought she did such a great job because she had
technically she could have been in this with Code White with
your or Demon Slayer with Shinobu.
I think Shinobu is in this season.
I don't know. I don't know.
I'm I'm the wrong person to ask about Demon Slayer.
But what I will say is they do include Billy, Billy shows.
But I think like almost anything, your show has to be,
like, pretty Dang popular. Popular.
Yeah. Yeah.
So like Billy, Billy helps produce Fire Force, for example.
Right. And Fire Force has been
nominated and won four awards. And there's a couple other shows
I can't remember. I agree with your assessment,
though. I think that Ren's voice actress
did an amazing job. You have so many different
characters that you're playing, and being able to go in and out
of that is very good. I also agree with your
assessment of Mao Mao by Ayuki. I think Mao's voice actress is
great. She has a lot of little modes as
well. She has like serious and gremlin
and you know, all of these different things and she does a
good job getting that across. And she even has like an
internal dialogue, which sounds slightly different than when
she's speaking. I would like to shout out
Kanichi Suzumura for Bravern, who I think does a good job of
bringing the energy in a way that is necessary to play a
character like Bravern. So those are the two that I
would highlight from here. And Drummer Roll.
Again, we get to the winner of this category, who is in fact
Aliyuki as Mao Mao from Apothecary Diaries.
So yeah, I think it's a good pick.
I'm excited. You know, anytime Mao Mao gets
any recognition, I'm going to be excited.
So I'm pretty happy about that. OK, so we're off to a decent
start. I, I, I have no idea who's going
to be the winners, but based off people's reaction, they were
pretty disappointed, which happens every year.
But so far I'm happy with these two picks.
Yeah, I, I am, you know, so we'll probably differ on some.
There is like for me, I think only like one or two that I was
like, I don't even see the angle in which you're coming.
Gotcha. You know what I mean?
Like there are some that maybe I disagree, but I get it.
But there were a couple where I was like, I, I don't get it.
I don't even understand who is pleased by this decision.
OK, that'll that'll be interesting to get.
To yeah. So for our next category, we
have best Ed. So we have Oh my God, I'm going
to have to pronounce. You can just say the names of
the shows. Sure, you say.
Well, some of them might. Have for all this show.
Yeah, but I can't because like things have more than one Ed if
they're 2 core. OK.
So we have we, I don't know what those are.
We have from Rama 1/2, we have Ontanate by Rira.
I can do this one. From Oshinoko Season 2, we have
Burning by Hitsuji Boon Gaku. From the Elusive Samurai we have
Kamakura Style by Bochi Boromaru.
This one's the easiest for me. From Kaiju #8 we have Nobody by
One Republic we have from Solo Levelling Request by Kroger and
that is what I voted for. And then we have what you voted
for Pete, which is Tai Da Da from Dan to Dan by Zutomayo.
What are your thoughts here? Yeah, we had a pretty, I think
we in terms of our Emmy Awards versus Crunchyroll, I think we
had two of the six line up. So this is I had to go back and
listen to the other 4 songs that I didn't really like listen to
that much to get a better understanding of this category.
I don't like their picks at all. Some of the ones like the Rama
1, I think that song is fine, but I think that's one of those
shows where they want to get like Rama involved because it's
like the big remake of the year. And I thought like the song was
just like, OK, I'm also, I'm kind of low on burning from
Ocean, OK. But I think that's also just
comparing it to Mefesto is like night and day.
Like Oshiko season 2, OP and Ed had like a lot to live up to and
I I like them both but I just also think that it's impossible
to not to view them in a vacuum. Like that no for sure, and I
just I also just thought burning was just like an OK song like I
I really didn't have anything like awesome to say about it.
I picked tied it up from da da da.
I think the song is fun. I think it's the best of the
six. I don't think it's I I don't I'm
not as high as it as other people are, but like, I don't
know, E DS can get confusing sometimes based off of what
people like look for. I try to get a mix of like E DS
that had like like popping visually along with also being a
slammer. I think some of the Crunchyroll
songs are just to include it. So I just went with Don to Don.
I'm like pretty indifferent on this one.
I'm not I the OPI have more words to say but EDI thought it
was just like I I I didn't really like their picks but I
also don't care enough. No, I got you.
I I think EDS and let me see if you agree this more than O PS
are vibe based. You know, where something like I
like request from Solo Leveling because it's like this sort of
slower song, but it has some like depth and punch to it and
it's like somatic. But it like usually in a show
like solo Leveling and with like these like hype moments or like
some sort of plot twist or big thing happening or whatever, you
know, where like the bad guy will stand up and like, oh,
here's the next threat or whatever.
And then it sort of like goes down.
And I think that like falling action was like pretty good for
me. I try to take things sort of in
context of the show more so than like what is my favorite song
from this bunch or whatever. Though we will now get to the
winner, which was in fact request by Krogay from Solo
Levelling. Interesting.
OK. Yeah.
I guess that was what they have listed.
Yeah, I, you know, as we discussed, I don't think either
of our favorite EDS of the year were on this so.
No, yeah. You know, but we we get a list
of 6 and you know, I'm happy with this choice.
It was my favorite of the six, so.
Yeah, I mean, I I'm pretty just like whatever the OP, I'm gonna
have way more words to say. Let's get these words going as
our next category is best opening sequence where we have
Abyss by Youngblood for Kaiju number.
Eight. That should not be there.
I just got to say that that song is.
Not I, I, I don't remember it. It's we have.
Will you please save my life? Oh yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It doesn't sound like an anime
OP, It just sounds like a pop punk song.
I mean, yeah, I don't. I'll I'll let you finish and
I'll get my. Word I I wouldn't put it on the
list either, but now I do remember it.
We have Bling Bang Bang, born by creepy nuts from Mashall season
2. We have fatal by Jim.
I don't know how to pronounce that GEMNI.
Yeah, I just don't know how you're supposed to do it.
So my apologies to them. From Open O Co season 2 we have
level from solo leveling by OK, here's the name of the band
Sawabi Hiroyuki open brackets NZK close brackets colon
tomorrow together. Yep, which I I didn't vote for
that, but if I had, I would somehow take it away because I
had to type it and it was hard. OK, we have a took Oto no K by
Creepy Nuts again for Dan to Dan and then OOS by Hiroshi
Hidadani, One Piece. Let's hear your words.
OK, we both voted for Otoko, no K.
Yeah, and I I think out of these six at 100% deserves, I think
it's the Best Song I can see Bling bling bang borne just
because it was so popular being the winner.
So like out of popularity, I get that missing girls bang cry on
this was a huge blunder. Like in terms of maybe not my
taste, but just like the overall sphere of anime, I think it was
the best OPE of 2024. I just thought what that OP did
to showcase what the show was doing and like about to do in
that OP was next level. So the fact that they missed
that I thought was huge level from soul leveling.
That song is not good either. That is a very it reminds me of
like a generic shield hero OP like it reminds me of was I
think mad kid does the OPS for shield hero like.
I love both shield. Heroes.
It's like it matches the tone of the show.
It's not top six of the year. Like it's not like you're
telling me that song is better than like one of the ones that
we did that left off the go go loser Ranger preview of me the
dangers in my heart. Boku Washington.
Just with that one was like the dancing in the OP was so fun
that like that's why we included it where like it matches with
the OPI for me. The OP should set the tone for
what's previewing of what the show is and what's to come.
And when you don't do that in O PS I don't enjoy them as much,
even if the song is like an Omega banger, which why is why
like I think idol is just like insane.
Like what that show, what that OP presents to what the show is,
it's like perfect so. Yeah, it's very good.
So when we which is why I love the girls band Cry wrong world
OP, it was missing. So with like the quirkiness and
fun that goes into that OP and the show.
That's why I went with Ultanoke from Donadon.
Yeah, similar thoughts here. So wrong world was my favorite
Opie of the year. It's my most played song of the
year. It's been yeah, I I'm a big fan
of it. I agree it should be on here.
I also someone who loves girls vent cry and happy that we got
invited to any of the party. You know, it's it would be great
if it was on here, but I'm also just excited that it that it got
a nomination anywhere, period. Yeah, you know, because they
don't always do things like that as some foreshadowing.
Bling Bang Bang born is the odds on favorite for anime song of
the year. So understandable.
Yeah, I think that one definitely belongs on here.
I like fatal for Owen K Like I'm not upset about that.
I don't know anything about the one piece song.
I think the only one that I'm like generally like why is this
even here? And, and this will happen with a
lot of categories. I'm sorry, Kaiju #8 I enjoy your
show. It is the Kaiju number 81.
You know, I don't think it's the best five out of that, but it's
not like a 5 that I could see is what the hell?
Anyways, that being said, I realized we haven't been doing
this. What do you think is going to
win? I think Bling Bang Bang Born is
going to win. OK, well, almost correct,
because the winner is it's an OK like creepy nuts.
I went with the more popular creepy nut song versus the
creepy nut song I like the best. Yeah, no.
And and you know that's you got to do that, right.
You got to, you got to go for it.
So next we have best score. OK, OK, Now we're OK with some
some things where I'll have very strong opinions of different
shows when? Oh yeah, I bet.
But let me talk about our nominees first.
And if there is not a dedicated composer that is credited, I
will just say the name of the studio.
But for Bleach, the Thousand Year Blood War, we have Shiro
Sagusu, we have Dan to Dan is Kinsuke Ushio did the
composition there. For Demon Slayer we have two
people. We have Yuki Kajira and Go
Sheena. We have Evan Call who did free
Ren. We have Studio Durian for Look
back and then Studio A1 for solo levelling.
I voted for solo levelling. You voted for free, Ren.
I did yes. I listened to a lot of OS TS
last year just to get a better grasp of this category.
My favorite which isn't listed here is Dungeon Meshy.
I thought how they handled the score for like their fantasy
world was incredible. But my number 2 is on this list
and that was Free Rin. I believe that's what I chose to
win, or at least that's why I picked to win.
That is what you voted. For OK I.
Don't know if that's picking to win or not.
Yeah, so. That's what I that's why I
selected to win for what I think will win.
It was probably Demon Slayer, like Demon Slayer always wins.
I listen to some of the soundtrack for the training arc.
I didn't think it was that good. Something like Dan to Dan's OSTI
think it has like 2 really good stand out songs.
Outside of that. I thought the soundtrack was
like OK I yeah. To me I thought Evan Colin
Freeman was just the second best scorer from last year though.
That's why I hope wins, but I think Demon Slayer's winning.
OK, yeah, I'll give my show a shout out really quickly and ask
the President solo levelling stand of.
Yes, you are cast. So bizarre.
Not sure how we got here, but we did.
To me, a lot of the scenes had a high impact and I think they did
a very good job with the score on those.
I definitely did not dive as deeply as Pete did.
My thing for score is usually like, do I notice the score
while I'm watching it? Am I like this is hype?
I like that it's doing this and I definitely had that for solo
leveling and freerun out of these.
But I decided to go with solo leveling because I I guess it's
my first time consuming it. And so these scenes are more
implanted with the score in my head is probably what I would I
would say, but I don't know. It just resonated with me a
little bit longer and I think it's I also like up tempo things
a bit more for music and solo leveling is all gas, no brakes
and free run has a lot of breaks and that's great and amazing.
But regardless, yeah. And so the winner of best score
is solo leveling. OK.
Yeah, I, I mean it like it's better than.
I mean, I picked Demon Slayer winning just because it's Demon
Slayer. OK.
I'm just glad it didn't win. Soul leveling in this case
probably would have been like my third choice I think from this
list. OK, I'm I'm all right with it.
I'll take it. I was, I was a bit surprised
just because of like Evan Call and other shows like exist, you
know, but. I will keep it like with with
most people when it comes to score, they'll listen to the OP
and Ed, which by the way are not included in the score and base
it off of that so. Sometimes they're included.
Sometimes, but I would say most of the time, but they're not
like most of the time. Evan Call is not doing the OP
like. Incorrect.
So I tried to base it around the, you know, the songs that
aren't that are included to the score.
I'll just put it that way. And I didn't listen to soul
leveling. But like you said, if you notice
it in the the show, it normally means it's at least like I mean
as long as that like the air horn noises or something like
that if you notice. It's good or.
Bad, right? It's usually one extreme.
It's either the worst score or the bad.
So yeah, I'm OK with this. OK, my favorite score from last
year was Witch for Mercury which was not nominated but I am
wearing my witch for. Mercury.
That's so. Next is best anime song.
OK OK but I remember having issues with this because they
included like 4 songs from like OP and Ed and just like this.
This should be the time where you showcase the other songs,
but they didn't do that, so let's hear.
Yeah. So they actually just so all of
these, five of these are from OP and Ed, four of them are from
OP, and the fifth one that wasn't included is an OP that
for whatever reason was not included in best OP.
Anyways, the one that I'm sure we both agree is a little
outlier here is Abyss Youngblood Kaiju #8 should not.
Be included on this song at all? We have we have Bling Bang Bang,
born by Creepy nuts for Marshall and this is the betting
favorite. This was the the favorite on the
Internet. If you wanted to make bets on
the anime awards by Crunchyroll, we have fatal by Jim Owen K
season 2. We have level by the same group.
Yeah, not. That that one group, What's the
one happening? Yeah, we have otenoke creepy
nuts Dan to Dan and then we have the Brave by Yasabi for free
Ren, which is OP number 1 I believe.
Yes, yes it is. And we both voted for that.
What are your thoughts? Pete yeah, I I think maybe we
voted for it because it's it was like the outlier to the other
ones. Blaine Blaine bang Borne I think
makes sense for winning this. That's why I think is going to
win. I still think with the list we
the free Renault P1 should win, though.
I wish I we could have gotten this is where I wish we could
have got like Zoltrak from Free Ren.
Bye Bye Earth had a banger. My Hero Academia had a banger
insert song. There's a couple of insert songs
from shows with Storia with Storia, I think, I think it was
like episode 10 or 11. The fight scene that was my
favorite part of the fight scene was the song.
Like I these these are this is where I wish they really should
have incorporated some insert songs or some songs outside of
that. Really would have loved to see
some representation, but I'm just gonna go with the free one.
Free one. I think that that was my pick,
but I think bling bling Bang Bang born wins.
There we go. Well, we'll get to the winner
here. And I agree with your, your
assessment there. Just really quickly.
I I, I don't even necessarily know if it should only be that
like, but just recycling the same things.
It's lazy. Yeah, I guess I would rather
have like a best, you know, I don't know how to do just like
make sure that these insert songs and stuff can have their
time to shine. Maybe one of them shows up in
like this like best of what we just did for music.
But currently it feels like a bit redundant.
This is just five O PS. Yeah, right.
It's a lazy category. In one Ed.
Yeah. Well, I think it would.
Yeah, it's I think. Sorry, it's a lazy nomination.
It's a good category. It's lazy nominations.
And the winner is OK by creepy nuts.
So it won OP and Best Song. Yep.
Sure, I think that's kind of lame and boring.
It's not the Best Song from the year.
I would even say it's not even the Best Song from Don to Don.
I think the chase scene song is the best.
Like overall song from Dandan. I think that song elevated the
chase scene a ton. I wish we could have gotten that
song in this. I just don't think there's a
world where we get like a score song on this.
No, I. Agree but I but if you are going
to do Best Song and include OP and E DS they should be excluded
from this category. This could be, and if you don't
want it to be like, like how many people listen to
soundtracks, Like 1% of anime listeners have this be like a
category on the side. Or do you say at least like
recognized by the industry and you don't have to have it on
your main show? Because I do think it's an
important category. I just think these dominations
are lazy. Yeah, I I agree that.
I mean, I liked them last year because I'll let IDLE win
something because idle didn't win best op which.
Is insane. They're smoking crack, smoking.
Crack. Yeah.
But that made me think that the whole point of this was to to
have like two different things, you know what I mean?
Like, but they didn't do that in this case and they like could
have just done the other creepy nut song.
So I'm not exactly sure exactly. I mean there's like a panel and
stuff, right? So it's just how it gets voted
and like 1/3 of it is fan vote so.
I would also say this from like a viewer standpoint and like
entertainment, like if you're watching this live and you see
this winner, like I would probably want to turn it off.
Like I think it's not only is it bad, more like the the awards
itself. I think it's boring content to
like have yeah, this repeating winner for a very similar
category. Yeah, I, I agree.
I would just try to avoid, I think, what the intent is.
You have best OP, best Ed. And it's like out of this group
of songs, which one's the best? Yeah, but I don't know.
You don't need to do that. That's my fault.
OK. We move on to the next one.
Next we have what is my least favorite category because of who
they've chosen. Oh fun.
And this is the must protected all.
I hate this category, so boring. It it's, it's the I don't even
think it's boring, I just think they picked maybe the dumbest
possible. Rids on this.
She is a mass killer. She does not have to be
protected. Anya Forger from spy family
season 2 pro needs to be protective is like 7 years old.
Khan is psychic. We have free rid from free rid
also known as free rid the Slayer, also known as the
strongest mage alive who's 1000 years old.
I think this they just didn't want to use the word Moe Okaroon
also known as someone who's possessed by a devil or a demon
of some sort. Yeah, whatever it is and can
kill us both. Insanely strong.
Crazy strong. Anyways, he's from Dan to Dan, I
get it. He's kind of like.
You know, you know what been good for him?
His testicles. His testicles should have been
on the nomination list. We want to protect Okrun's
testicles, yes. That at least makes sense in
this. In the show, he loses them.
If we protect them, he won't lose them.
Not even. Close.
This is silly. The primary person who keeps the
group alive. He is.
He is like a master class at adventuring the dungeon.
He has knows like every nook and cranny, he knows how to.
Grow top tier survival. Skills.
He knows how to grow vegetables in a dungeon like this.
Dude does not need to be protected, he needs to be
studied. We have Tokiyukiyojo from the
elusive Samurai. I'm pretty sure he kills people
in that show. Is a samurai yes, Or adjacent at
least I haven't seen it. I'm pretty sure he decapitate
somebody in a fight scene like I'm.
Yeah, I think he's OK. Then we have Yuki Tosi from A
Sign of Affection. She's deaf, so we have to
protect her. The major theme of that show is
that she doesn't need to be protected.
She's her own person and is capable of living her life
without babying her. We both voted for Anya.
I think it's just like you had to like I think she should and
will win. I can see there's a world where
you vote for Yuki, if you like, just sort of didn't think very
hard and was like, everyone else here is like a warrior of some
sort and she's just a college student and you weren't like
thinking about what the message of the show was when you click
your buttons. And I think last year.
So that's kind of why I did that.
OK, just to. Back-to-back to back winners, it
makes sense. To back, well, Anya won.
We have Anya as the winner. Back-to-back, someone called
Drake. We're going back-to-back.
Yep, sure. It's not.
Necessarily a category that I inherently hate.
And I get the vibe of the character they were going for.
It's like people who are like kind of cuddly in some way or
what, I don't know exactly how to word it, but there is like a
vibe that ties those characters together.
Like even Freer and the Slayer like gets stuck in the mimics
and stuff, right? Like there's, there's stuff
there they could've, I don't know, there's something that
they needed to, to word out better, but don't hire me
because I don't know. This category just seems like,
hey, we have 26 categories and then Crunchyroll corporate's
like we need 27. It's like, but we already have
all the ones that we need to do another one.
And then that's what they came up with this.
It's just like, who cares? Like.
Yeah, and they have categories they like drop and stuff like
they didn't, we don't have best. We do it too.
It's just like maybe one year is prevalent and it makes sense in
the next year. Yeah, true.
Well, like this is just like what?
Like it's forcing. Would you force people into a
category? Just remove it Like it's fine.
Yeah, I I agree best supporting character.
We have Fern from free Rin. She is the odds on favorite on
the betting markets. We have Himmel from free Rin who
I voted for with no I no thoughts that he would win.
I I just love that he's on here. It makes me happy.
We have Jenshi from the Apothecary Diaries.
We have Seiko from Dan to Dan. We have Senchi who you voted for
from Delicious and Dungeon. Then we have Turbo Granny, also
from Dan to Dan. What are your thoughts on this
list? I think it's a pretty good list
all things considered and. I would not have included Turbo
Granny. She doesn't do anything in the
first season as a supporting character.
She doesn't really support them. Like even if she does, it's not
enough to be a top six supporting character of the
year. I would agree with that.
She is funny though. She is funny, but so is Seiko
the grandma Which? Yeah, I'm.
Fine with that being here I wouldn't have put her, but like
I it seems forced to have both those Don to Don characters in
here. It doesn't make any sense.
Fern and Himmel make more sense of having both.
I think they both play two different supporting roles.
In the story of Free Run, I pick Senchi.
I think he's just vital to the storyline of Delicious and
Dungeon. Like without him they would
probably, if not already be dead.
So like he plays a very massive and vital point in there, not
only the story but the party itself.
And he's just a great character. I think he's super funny.
I think he's lovable and he is the glue of Delicious and
Dungeons. So that's why I picked them.
I picked Himmel because one, I think there's like an argument
to be made that Fern is just sort of the main character of
the series, at least at this point, like, or at least a main
character. Yeah, there's like a lot, but
she does it's all like her growth.
And so I don't know, she she she does things.
She's taking the major exam. It's it's for her to take more
so than free run. We already know what Free run
can do, but I voted for him all because I think he plays like a
pretty unique role in the story in so far that is mostly just
like the memory of him that is supportive and we see how he's
developed a character that is already fully developed when we
meet her. And I think that's neat.
I like that. I think Gentsy is a good
character. I think all of us besides Turbo
Granny who is probably just here for the memes makes the most
sense. Like I would say since she also
probably a main character, I don't necessarily know if I
would put him on this list because of that.
But I do understand that there's like this in between thing
between like a side supporting character and a main character
sometimes when your cast is large enough where you have like
AB tier of main character. So I'm not particularly upset on
that. Do you have what you think, who
you thinks, who you think is going to win?
I think I, I think you said Fern was the betting odd favorite.
She was the betting favorite. Yeah, I think, I think Fern
makes sense. I'll I'll pick Fern.
OK. And in fact, Fern is the winner,
so I'm I'm happy with that. Yeah, I'm I'm cool with that
pick. Yeah, and they have her doing
the Fern walk is the image. Yeah, Fern Walk I love.
Next we have best main character.
OK, there should be 1 and I. Forgot to highlight who you
voted for, but I know who you voted.
For you voted for. I'm not mistaken.
Yep. You are correct, it is free run
from Free Run who is also the odds on favorite in the betting
market. This was the one where it was
pretty interesting. Her and Sung Jinlu went back and
forth like a lot so most of them were pretty static.
But Free Run and Sung Jinlu changed who the favorite was
almost daily and like just because of the time that I cut
it off, Freerun won because I did it on the first one of the
morning of. But like later that day, Sung
Jing Wu was and on earlier, like on the previous day, like the
last one and he was it. And then freerun takes it back
going in. So they they were really close
for the betting favorite, which was interesting because mostly
there was just a major favorite and it would only collapse if
like something got leaked or whatever you would just see go
like Bam, it wasn't like a lot of back and.
Forth So what were the other nominations?
Yeah, there were other people who were nominated, including
who I voted for. Not Kafka from Kaiju #8, but he
was nominated. Momo from Dan to Dan, O Karoon
from Dan to Dan, Mao Mahal from Apothecary Diaries.
That's who I voted for. And then Sungjin Wu from Solo
Levelling. So you're saying Sungjin Wu was
the betting favorite with Free Ren?
So it basically so from the cut off it was free ring but it was
more or less a Co one depending on the time you looked at it
between Sungjin Wu and free. Ring this is.
That's crazy considering that we're in these awards.
It's only season 1 of Soul Levelling and Sungjin Wu doesn't
really. I feel like he matures a lot
more in the second season to like actually have a developed
character. I think maybe at the end of
season 1 where he becomes a necromancer I was like Oh my God
he's so cool. I wouldn't even put him even
remotely close to someone like Mao Mao or Free Ren or anybody
else in this category. I feel like Ultra Rune and Mobo
both seem like very. I mean, there it's a popular
show, but I would not have included them at all.
I think Sunjin Wu out of these six would be my third choice.
Like, I'm not going to lie. Out of these six, let's see, I
like Momo better than Sunjinwu. I did.
I like San Jin Wu more than Okarun.
Who's the other one that we're missing?
Oh, and Kafka. Kafka would be dead last as
much. Like Kafka.
Kafka's fun, like Kafka is a fun character.
He's not a good character, at least in my opinion.
OK so I'm AI think free run wins and I think free run should win.
OK. I'll put it that way.
Or or bow, bow. One of the two should win.
OK, the winner of this category is Sungjin Wu.
I'm so leveling. If you want to know my thoughts
on this, you can come into our discord and you can find my
dissertation on why Sungjin Wu and Free Reign are very similar
characters. It was a lot of fun to write.
I don't necessarily know if I meant it, but well, you wrote
it. I did.
I did write it. This is crazy He's he should not
even be in the the top 6 like. My my thought here is that when
this is getting made and voted for etcetera, season 2 is
airing. Yep.
And people love Season 2, and that's just a thing that has
always affected awards like this.
Do you know what else was airing that was season 2 during voting?
Apothecary Diaries and free. Yes.
Oh no, no, free. One I I think Mao Mao should win
this. I also think that, you know, I
have a lot of friends who who like, voted for the Crunchyroll
awards but aren't huge yeah anime fans.
And they were choosing between Song Jing Wu and Free Red.
And they have not watched Apothecary's.
Gotcha. I just want to say I know that
this is like subjective and it's like opinion and stuff that's
wrong, that your friends are incorrect.
As well they they haven't watched the show with the
clearly. Correct.
They're still wrong. Like they're wrong because they
haven't watched Apothecary Diaries yet.
And I'm getting them too slowly. OK, what a good friend.
It's hard. It's hard to push things on
people that don't have action. You know, like I I can get some
like not shown any stuff in there, but like it needs
something sure and like you know, it it you gotta you gotta
slowly yeah, trip feed it. This Oh man, maybe I'll save it
for the end, but I have words for just the Crunchyroll awards
in general, just like their structure, so this will just add
to that. Yeah, let's do that at the end.
I one thing I'll I'll say is I have a friend who normally skips
through dialogue scenes of anime to watch fight scenes and he has
said Apothecary Diaries is and I quote pretty good and I will
take that. That's that's a huge W That's a
huge. Volume.
Anyways, our next category is Best Slice of Life.
My second favorite category. Yep.
So we're on Pete's favorite category and.
I have I have words about this category because I think like
four of the six, I would not classify a slice of life.
I have words for this category too because I voted for Makanine
and I hate that show. Yes, you do you.
You give it like a. Four.
Yeah, I don't like it. OK, what were the but it's.
The the other two that I had seen anyways laid back camp
season 3. You have voted for this.
Girl, there's my girl in the desk.
Go woo. Makani, too many losing
heroines. I voted for this show.
Yep. We'll get to why in a second.
OK, third. Mr. Villain's day off.
Honestly not going to front. Never.
Heard of I dropped it. OK, looks like a slice of life
though if I. Were to it's 100% of.
Life, yeah #4 my dear friend Nocaton.
Not a slice of life. There's an argument to be made,
but I agree. Maybe because it's not funny
they have to categorize it as a slice of life because it's.
Not oh, wait until you get to the go.
It's in the comedy. Category.
Oh, it is. It shouldn't, but it's there.
I'm glad that you finally come full circle here.
You're willing like we're enough past the show that there's no
some cost fallacy on the time you had spent watching the show.
Four, what are you talking about?
There was like a long period of time where you were like, it's
kind of funny. There are two good episodes in
Nocoton. There are two.
I will fight you for that. We'll get there eventually #5 is
sound euphonium? Season not even remotely close
to a slice of life. I think it's a slice of life.
I do. Not the last season, especially
not the last season. No, I think it's an hell.
Life is stressful and people saying oh it's about competition
and stuff are fucking losers who didn't compete in their life.
This is a drama. This is a clear drama.
Life is dramatic. Yes, that's why should be
included in the best drama category, not slice of life.
They play instruments. The dangers in my heart.
Not a slice of life I'll. Agree with you on that one.
It's a romance. It is, and also I don't like it.
Anyways, all of those things led to me voting for Makani, a show
I don't like. What do you think, Pete?
So some of the big messes even though I haven't seen the show
but it's like it's such a highly rated property and I believe it
is one of if not the highest season that's ranked was not to
me. Book of Friends 7th season
probably should be included in this.
I really wish we saw Pokémon Concierge in this.
I really don't like shows like sound euphonium in this.
I don't classify it as a slice of life too many losing
heroines. I I think that's adjacent enough
where I'm fine with it but some big misses.
I I think Pokémon Concierge and Nasiri's Book of friends should
have 100% get here. I get like not including shows
like Mushroom pup. Like I get that I'm the only one
who really likes that show that much I but.
That's like 7 of you on the. Discord.
There's there's like 12 mushroom puff fans out in the world and
seven of them are in their discord.
But I I do, I think Pokémon Concierge is the big mess on
this one. Yeah, I I can agree with that.
I I think my argument for something like my dear friend
Nogaton is though it is insane. They do nothing.
Yeah, which is like, that is like a pretty big Hallmark slice
of life where they're just chilling, you know what I mean?
It's this is where it comes down to like where I view the drama
in something like Oceano Co, like incredible.
And it's not just the intense scenes, it's the interactions
with their classmates at school and their interactions with cast
members behind the scenes. Like that's what sound Euphonium
Season 3 was. That's fine.
Yeah, I I get that. It's like defending my dear.
Friend no, no for sure. But it's like it's like it's
those it's like those shows where it's like, OK, maybe
season 1 where they're learning, you know, the freaking
euphonium. And that can be I think I think
that's a little bit more in the slice of life category.
Season 3, they're competing for nationals is the most stressful
competition of their entire life.
And like so it's like if you are going to put sound euphonium in
slice of life then you better include blue box you better
include, high Q you better include like anything with a
competition should be slice of. Life then I think sports anime
or more or less just slice of life anime most of the time.
That's my take. I'm the exact option I I
consider them like action because I remember the first or
second year I did our awards, the best fight category had a
high Q match and so like. Yeah, I do.
I do remember. That I like that.
I think it's more in like the drama action side than like
slice of life. Just because they're not
throwing punches doesn't mean they're not like fighting or
battling. Yeah, I agree.
But like, I guess I to me, such a such a big portion of like
high school life, which is what so many of these things focus on
is athletic competition. And like, so to me, it's just
like, OK, what fundamentally, what is the difference between a
photography club and volleyball club?
You know what I mean? Conflict.
You can enter a photography competition.
You could, but do they? Yeah, the girl in mono did.
She won for taking pictures of her senpai taking pictures.
I see you've been watching Mono all right.
I have, which is something that I think we both would agree, a
slice of life, a. 100% now doesn't classify the slice of
life and it's by the person who made freaking laid back amp.
Oh OK so walking back to the whatever laid back camp is for
me, my favorite size of life ever.
I don't think season 3 is winning the award even though I
would have picked it out of these 6.
I don't think it was what? Do you think is of these 6?
I'm gonna go. Too many losing heroines.
OK, good guess man. The winner is too many losing
heroines. I'm OK with that.
I'm not. I'm OK with that.
I hate this show. I can I explain the situation
with like the shy girl to my friends today where he just like
does a soft coup of the club. Yeah, you hate and like, yeah,
because the guy is awful. He's an awful human.
He's just a monster with, but he comes off like so.
Aw Shucksy. If you want to hear our thoughts
on too many losing heroines, go check out the Summer 2024
review. Me and Miles are both on that
episode. If you like it, you'll like my
take. If you hate it, you'll love
Miles's take. Yep, and reverse that for Alia.
Yep, that show. Was that?
Straight. Buns show was like mocking a but
the Surprisingly enough, the main character was less of a
psychopath. That's true.
He. Was he was, I will agree.
With that, like our next category best drama.
So for best drama we had a sign of affection.
Dead, dead, demons, destruction. Free Ren Oceano Co Season 2
Pluto and the Apothecary Diaries.
I I remember when this came out and this was like one of the
categories I was like, damn, they got like 5 of 6 right.
Like I I like what they chose for this.
I would have rather had sound euphonium in this and drama and
so slice of life but I did really enjoy their picks for
best drama. I think it makes sense shout to
them actually including Pluto. Like I I just assumed that they
were going to forget that show. I think I picked Oceanoco to
win. I think it should win.
I think season 2 the Tokyo Blade arc was incredible.
It was the best directing of 2024 in my opinion.
I thought they just killed it this year.
So my pick and what should win and what I picked is Oceanoco.
OK, I picked The Apothecary Diaries as one of my favorite
shows of all time, as actually several of these nominations are
there's a world where I vote for dead, dead demons, but
unfortunately Apothecary Diaries exists.
And then I would do probably I guess for drama O&K and then
free run. But it's a pretty stacked list
here. Yep, I like this one.
I like a sign of affection. I don't necessarily think it's
punching at its weight. In the I don't I don't think it
should be included in drama I I like it but I don't think it's
top 6. There is good drama in it, but
yeah, I would think it yeah. I, I just don't think it's a top
six thing like it, mostly because it, it gets resolved
pretty quickly and there's never any like concern about who like
Yuki's going to end up with her, you know what I mean?
Like what sort of lowers the the stakes there a bit?
I would really like to see I mentioned Sound Euphonium.
I really would have liked to see Girls band cry here.
I also would have really liked to see for representation
Yatagrasu. But I am happy they did throw in
shows like Pluto which I think deserve to be in this category
and should have been in more categories.
Yeah, I was surprised you didn't vote for this, but you did
explain it pretty well that you like the drama and.
O and Ki think Pluto is a better show than Ocean O Co.
I think Ocean O Co does drama better than Pluto.
Yeah, it's really good O&K arc. Anyways, the winner of this is
Free run. OK, sure.
I'm fine with it. Free run's like the caliber of
show where when it wins, you're just like, I guess, yeah,
whatever, you know? Yeah, like, I don't think it's
the best drama. I think the drama ended is like
relatively limited to be perfect I think.
It's like in the beginning of the story and that it's kind of
pushed to the side. There's some other stuff I don't
know it. I also, I don't really like the
category. And this is like all of society
drama. Almost everything has drama in
it, Everything ever. That's why theater is also
called drama anyway, so. Yeah, I I get for as much as I
love Friedrin fantasy style shows, I really don't like in
best drama unless it's like I I can't think of maybe something
like Chintukai Yuri since I that was brought up.
Like I think the drama in that like fantasy style show is like
incredible. But for the most part, I love
like the actual human interactions in like a normal
world with this category, which is why like to me like I think
like. Normal world like Oshino Co.
Oshino Co for Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a, that's a normal world.
Well, I was joking a bit because there is definitely light
fantasy elements to Oshino Co. Yeah, but you can't prove people
haven't been reincarnated, so Boo.
What about like the you know what, it doesn't matter.
There's like a a Raven God, but you know, that's OK.
I can't prove that there aren't any.
Raven God. OK, it has fantasy albums, but
it's not. Yes, it's very light on them
100% I I do agree with you, I just wanted to be a little.
That's like when, like, Demon Slayer won like best fantasy in
these awards. It's like, yeah, tactically it's
a fantasy, but like, come on. I would say, I mean, there's
demons. Yeah, would you could like,
would you think of best fantasy? I mean, I don't think about, do
you think? Diva Slayers, of the top ten
shows, would you think of best fantasy?
What I would say if you asked me what is the top ten shows that
the Crunchyroll awards would think is top fantasy, I would
say Demon Slayer. OK if that answers.
Yeah. For the crunch, yes.
For the context of the Crunchyroll Awards, absolutely.
I wouldn't do it, but I think demon Slayer is fine.
It is a very OK show. Yeah.
Would you put something like fate into fantasy?
Yes. OK, Best Isakai huh?
Is that a category? It is and we're we're talking
about it and we both voted for Konosupa season 3.
It's also the odds on favorite. I don't know why this one had
it. It's like mostly big awards and
then also best Isakai. We had jobless reincarnation
season 2 Re 0 starting life in another world season 3
Shangri-La frontier. Yep love that.
So I I would argue it is an Isakai though I don't like the
show Suicide Squad Isakai and That time I got reincarnated as
a slime season 3. This is a bunch of shows I don't
really like and then Konosuba, so that those are my thoughts.
And this isn't even an arc of Konosuba that I particularly
enjoy. I think Kozma is like a little
creepier than necessary in the Iris arc, but I still think the
show is funny because it's Konosuba.
Pete, your thoughts here. Yeah, I thought this was a
pretty weak year of Isakai in general.
As you can tell by suicide Isakai Squad or whatever is
nominated in the top 6. Well I think I'll give you along
with Shangri-La Frontier which is not an Isakai.
I think they should just relabel this to like fantasy.
Just general. Well, then you get, I mean, then
this entire cast, right? Yeah, you get like well and
Friedrin and. Yeah, I Friedrin should win.
But like Yoshino Co is we just, I don't know.
I like it's one of those things we're like, yeah, we know what
you mean by Isakai, but like, I don't.
I have when you are the Crunchyroll awards, you should,
I don't know, have a better I. Don't know, my argument would be
Shangri-La Frontier is an isakai because a large amount of the
show is spent in a different world that is living and
breathing despite the fact that it is a video game.
Yeah, playing a video game. Yeah, but there are.
But it's a world that's it's, you know what I mean?
Like the Bunny is an NPC in that video game.
She's a living, breathing character, right?
There are the world is living, it is its own world, despite the
fact that it is a video game and they go there for the majority
of the show. OK, I understand what you're
trying to say. I just, I'm not a purist about
it. You know what I mean?
Like SAOI think it's an Isa Kai. Yeah, I guess this is where we
sort of agree to disagree. Yeah, we can do that.
I don't think that you're incorrect.
There's definitely an argument to be made, but I think Isakai
are generally stupid and dumb anyway, and so we shouldn't be
too strict with them. Is there anything you think that
they're missing? From this list there was quite a
I'm like I think there was quite a few Isakai this year that but
there weren't good ones. What I think should have been
included in this one. Maybe something like the
Moonlight Fantasy 1 should have been nominated.
I'm happy with RE0 making it. I think it absolutely deserved
to be here. Isakai Squad Suicide Squad does
not deserve to be here. I think you could pick any
random generic Isakai that got released in 2024 and pick that
one instead. Slime I also don't agree should
be on this list for as much as I do enjoy Slime.
The third season was asked like, I'm sorry, it was just bad.
Like I I don't care that the console arc where it was like 8
episodes of talking is supposed to build up the world and
whatever. It was really boring and
terribly paced. Winners.
Yeah, we picked Konosuba. I think this is the best season
of Konosuba since the movie. I guess it's the only season
since, but I think it I think the movie is the funniest.
And if you take all the seasons, I think the third season that we
got this year was the funniest so far.
So that's why I picked it. I think it's gonna be either
between Carl Subba or RE0. Yeah, I I think that is a good
assessment. I kind of enjoyed Suicide Squad.
He's Sky. It's bad.
I'm not gonna say that it was good.
There was a charm to it. And the charm was the characters
were fun. The lack of charm was the world
they went to was stupid and everything was stupid around it
and. Everything was.
Bad. The Ed was also amazing.
Yes, it was. The Ed was so good.
I, I, I think they, they tried. That's what I'll say.
And the winner is. Rezero Season 3.
Best action show. OK, let's get to it.
We got bleach, thousand year blood war, Dan to Dan, demon
Slayer, Kaiju #8 solo levelling which is what I voted for, and
windbreaker which is what you voted for.
Love First of all, can't believe Free Ren is not on this list.
It had two of my favorite 2 of like my top five fights in like
anime history. Like the action in Free Ren is
incredible. The fact that it's not listed
here in something like Demon Slayer, the training arc is
where I believe, if I'm not mistaken, one fight in the
entire if you considered that. You foldable to that fight.
Though they did do that fight, but that that demonstrator does
not deserve to be on this list and it shouldn't be on any list
this year. The training arc is a it's
Canon, but, and I will put this in like a quotation marks, it's
a filler arc. It's literally there to.
If you ever seen Log Horizon season 3 it's literally there to
set up the next season of it's show.
Should not be included. I voted for whatever for
Windbreaker. I think the choreography and
windbreaker is just next level. I think that's what separates it
from other action shows where you see such a detail to the
choreography that I haven't really seen in anime.
Like the only other anime I've seen this level of choreography
to is link click so and I'm I'm guessing other like martial arts
shows have really good choreography I just haven't seen
them. But I mean in the last couple
years the best choreography to me has been Windbreaker and
Linklik. So that's why I included or
that's why I picked Windbreaker to win.
Great, I picked solo levelling because deep within me, Pete, I
know you don't. Really, that's what's going to
win. By the way, solo leveling is a
fun thing going to win. Good guess.
I like can't remember, but I, I, I, I remember enough to not be
surprised if soul loving wins. The new doom game just came out
in all of us. There is the desire to just slay
thousands of demons, RIP and tear and all of that.
And this provided it to me. I thought that especially the
last fight against Egress was very good and they just went
like really fucking hard on that.
And unlike some other shows where they go really hard on one
thing, the rest of the show didn't particularly suffer for
it, which is nice. I must say though, I did not
watch Windbreaker because the concept seems sort of stupid.
To me, and I'm in the same boat, which is when a show that has a
terrible concept blows me away like Windbreaker.
You should check it out. What's weird to me a bit is
Kaiju #8 being on here, there are some good fights and stuff,
but like it also is one of those animes that the fights are
padded by a lot of standing. Yeah, I don't.
Yeah, I guess I. Don't.
Mind it being on this list because we also had it because
it does have a ton of action and I I think.
I disagreed with it when it was on our list.
Yeah, so I I think Kaiju #8 is here for quantity, not quality.
I think some of the fights are good even, and have great
moments. But yeah, I just also think that
to me, when you're standing around in a fight for too long
and like talking, but like, the fight's still happening, it just
loses me eventually. And that's a lot of anime.
So, you know, take that for what you will.
Like, it's just my opinion. I understand it's probably not
the world's most popular one, but those were my thoughts
anyways. To the winner, Solo leveling.
Good call, Pete. Yeah.
I'm I'm fine with this like. Yeah, I think it it does action
well. It does.
It needs to. In fact it does, yes, as that is
a large amount of the show. Yeah, I'm fine with this
wedding. I I just can't believe
Friedrin's got nominated. It's crazy.
It is a little crazy. Again, I think it's because of
said audience that I was talking about before.
We're something like free run is much slower paced than what
they're used to. And it doesn't matter that there
are amazing fights in it, because it's not a fight show in
brain, you know? Which is nuts because like ever
I if I was thinking every conflict in the show is resolved
by fighting. It's like there are like early.
Conflicts they resolve through like talking and stuff, but
yeah. A lot of them are in fact
resolved, you know. Like anything with demons.
Goal track of the demons, Aura, Linne, Lunger, the dragon, the
magazine arc. It's just like there's so much
action in the shell, the fact that it's not nominated and it's
like high production, high value stuff.
So. Huge miss by French roll on this
one. OK, best comedy.
We have Delicious and Dungeon, which is what I voted for.
We have Konosuba Season 3, which is what you voted for.
We have the National Season 2. We have my dear friend Nokaton.
We have Ramma 1/2 or one out of two or one half, and then we
have Spy Family. I think we can keep this quick
just because comedy is subjective.
I am a 12 year old boy living in a man's body.
I think fart jokes are hilarious, That's why I picked
Konosuba. However, this is the Crunchyroll
awards. I'm going to assume Mashall
wins. OK, I I just Mashall is a funny
show. Everything else besides Mashall
and this isn't fair for comedy is is written bad, kind of the
the characters are bad, the the plot is bad.
It's a lot of it is bad, and so even though I enjoy it because
it is funny, I wasn't going to vote for it.
So I picked Delicious Dungeon, which was just sort of like a
very good and solid show. I think we all don't know what
my dear friend No Catan is doing here.
No, because as you said, comedy is subjective.
Except for this one. Except for that one.
Yeah, because I don't think I've met anyone who likes it.
I agree and I am online all the time.
Yeah, like, what a disappointment of a show for
everyone who likes viral marketing.
Anyways, the best winner of this is Nashville.
Good call. I would not have called that.
I think I think season 1 won best comedy, so I think that's
why I picked. OK, it is.
I will say it is a funny show. They have a couple of jokes and
they make me laugh when I watch them.
But I don't know, I just, I think a lot of it is bad and it
sort of hurts how funny it is to me.
Because anyways, best romance? Best.
Let's go. Here we go.
Yeah, we have a sign of affection.
That is what you voted for in Blue Box.
We have Nakanay, too many losing heroines.
We have Ronma 1/2, We have Scott Pilgrim takes off and we have
the dangers in my heart. OK, I'll just I'll I'll start
with this dangers in my hardest winning.
Why? This one's tough.
Blue box. If we are supposed to be looking
at the run times of when voting, this should only be the first
half of blue box which had 1% romance in it.
It was. It was all building.
The romance of blue box comes in the second halfway more than the
first half. It should not even be.
It should not be on the slip. I'm fine with it being on the
list next year. Side of Affection was my pick.
I think it is the best romance of that year.
Well, personally, it's not my favorite.
I think it was my second favorite behind Kibinito Doke,
which I think should have been nominated.
This season was incredible in terms of the romance.
Well, yeah. I mean, for like the popularity
award, it's got to be dangerous in my heart.
Like, I don't know, like everyone's going to vote for
that. So I I picked, I picked time of
affection, but date is in my heart is winning.
Yeah, there's an argument to be made that machinery isn't really
a romance. I'm fight with that winning too
just because I was super popular as well.
Yeah. I'm not fighting with that
winning. I think it fucking sucks, yeah.
When did we bring that up? I voted for some Scott Pilgrim
takes off because I love Scott Pilgrim and I think this was
like a fun sort of remix of that story that sort of examined the
faults of the original 1 and like gave the characters good
growth moments and everything like that.
And sort of drove home some messaging that was maybe not
clear in the first one, which is good.
I, I do like a side of affection though.
I, I think that's, that's a good choice as well.
I think as far as like a pure romance goes, right, like a show
that is very clearly focused on romance 1st and most and it
arguably it's one of only two shows on this list that did
that. I think it's the best choice,
but Pete, the winner of Best romance, it is.
Oh well, you can't see my slides so you won't get this joke, but
it's solo levelling. I did that.
Oh, the sister and the brother. Yeah, they had a good romance
going on. That I do think that seems very
funny. Is blue box What?
Yep, Blue box. Why?
I don't know. That's it.
OK, I think this is the first. I think this is the first one
where I'm like, this is like 100% incorrect.
Like this is so wrong. The 1st 12 episodes of blue.
You're telling me the best romance of the year were the
first 12 episodes of Blue Box? You got to be out your God damn
mind. That's terrible.
They shouldn't. It shouldn't be.
It should not even be on this list, let alone win.
This is a terrible pick. I love to hear it.
I don't know anything about Blue Box other than people have told
me it's not great so. I will say the anime is much as
me and. Is it better OK me?
And Cosette both read the manga, and when we reviewed the anime,
we were both surprised by how much more we enjoyed the anime
versus the manga. OK, I'll check it out then.
I think we both gave the we're both have the manga like a six
and I think we both gave the anime an 8.
I I I thoroughly enjoyed the anime more, but the the 1st 12
episodes of blue box. No, it's no, it's not even like
it's like 1 girl, the side loser girl sort of figuring herself
out before anybody else. This should not be on the list.
This is a This is a genuine terrible pick.
OK, terrible pick. It's just sports anime in the
1st 12 episodes. It's not a romance.
It's. Just yeah, it should.
You're right, it should have been best.
Slicing, oh, what, their opposite gender up?
It's a romance. It's like, no, that shit's still
developing that this is a terrible, this is a terrible
thing. If you vote for I just say if
you vote for a blue box, you're wrong.
This is a terrible. Terrible thing.
OK, I like. I love this.
This is great. Terrible thing we have best
background art. I'm sorry, one more thing like
like I don't have anything. There are shows that where like
I get where it's like, OK, it's super popular, not my alley.
I get why it won. I don't get why this one.
I I don't get it. It makes no sense.
OK, sorry. Go ahead, Miles.
No, I love it best. If you want to come back to it
at any point, just let me know. We're doing best background art.
OK, We can go on. This one.
OK, Dan to Dan, Delicious and dungeon.
Demon Slayer free Ren Pluto Apothecary Diaries.
You voted delicious dungeon. I voted Apothecary Diaries.
This feels like something that's going to be pretty subjective,
to be perfectly honest, because all of these shows have, well, I
haven't seen Demon Slayer. All of these shows except for
maybe Demon Slayer have great attention to detail and
background sets and it's all good and consistent and all
that. I'm guessing you like the
different aesthetics of the layers of the dungeon and how
those play into the. Background yeah, how how that
was played out in delicious dungeon.
I really enjoyed shows I think should be included in this.
Sound Euphonium should have made it and even with the the change
in studio laid back camp season 3 still had incredible
background art so I would have liked those two included.
I would have had Sound Euphonium win this category if it was
nominated, but my runner up would be Delicious Dungeon as in
terms of who else won this what? What were the nominees again?
I'm also pick the most popular. That's either going to be Dan to
Dan Free run or Demon Slayer. The other options are Pluto and
Apocalypse. I'll pick.
I'll pick, I'll say free run win.
OK. And the winner of this award is
free run. OK, cool.
Yeah. I'm I'm fine with that.
I I love the art and a design that goes into rerun.
In terms of background art though, not as much.
There's like 1 scene in particular where I think the
background art shines and that's when Free Ren binds Fern, her
birthday present. I think it's in like the early.
That's literally the scene I was thinking.
That well, it's iconic. It's like people remember that
scene and remember the background and but like a lot of
times in terms of background art for this, it's like they're just
travelling on a wagon and the background art is trees.
It's like, OK, who did trees better?
Free Rin or laid back camp? And shockingly, I think it's
laid back camp so. I think there are background
scenes. There's other that.
Yeah. Like, OK, like think about like
the major hunger. And stuff like.
And well like was this include season 1 of Free run?
The whole yeah includes the entire thing.
Yeah, so like, but you know, like, again, the scene where
she's hovering in the background of the moon and the stars and
stuff like that is just such a powerful scene.
And partially because of that, that whole castle and everything
has like good decor. When they do the dancing arc
with Stark and Fern, like I think that is well decorated.
I didn't vote for it, but I think it's I think it's worthy.
No, it's worthy 100%, but like I dude, I like Saudi phony.
I'm just they killed it. They absolutely, yeah.
It's a studio that's going to kill it, so yeah.
Cool for you in winning. Yeah, that.
That's not like crazy take or anything.
So cool. Better than you know what's
better than it's better than blue box with best romance.
Fuck that shit, bring that back up.
So far, what's your biggest El Sung Jing Liu winning best main?
Character because that's like a popularity pick so like I I can
cut like I that's one of those ones where like they're 100%
wrong, but I get. It but you get it OK.
Blue box winning with stuff like like If Dangers in My Heart
wasn't included and Mockney wasn't included, I can see
people maybe voting for blue Box because like that's kind of in
like the similar vein. I can't believe blue box 1.
That's the biggest L and it's I think it's not even close.
OK, I love it. I love to hear it.
I love these opinions. That's that, that one, that one.
I think that one is it's like legit terrible.
OK, what's that, Director? Oh, OK, this should be we're.
We're we're home. We're homestretching.
This is a slam dunk. This is, this is.
There's two options and one wasn't nominated.
OK, that's interesting that you've decided that you were
wrong and that who I voted for should be.
Did you vote for soul leveling because you're a Crunchyroll
shill? Not on the list.
I voted for Apothecary Diaries. OK, but let me go through the
noms. We have Fuga, Yamashiro from Dan
to Dan. We have Hado Sotozaki Demon
Slayer. We have K Ichiro Saito from Free
Rin. We have Megumi Ishitani from the
One Piece fan letter. Yep, I don't know what that.
Is people loved it was like a 1 episode one piece thing.
People loved it. People loved a One Piece thing.
Yeah. No way.
Yep. Nori Hero, Naganuma, Apothecary
Diaries, who I voted for. You voted for free Rin and then
Yoshihiro Miyajima from delicious and dungeon.
OK, my winner if he was included is Daisuke Hiramaki from Ocean O
Co season 2, but since that wasn't nominated, I think this
is a slam dunk for Free Ren. I don't even think anything
comes close to those two in terms of direction this year.
And since Ocean O Co is not on the list, I'm going to pick
Free. Ren's my winner and I also think
it will win and should win. OK, I would like to shout out
Tomo Yuki Kurakala from Dead Dead Demons.
That's a great because I think the direction in that was
absolutely. Phenomenal that.
Also for one for background art, Dead of Demons had an incredible
background art. Incredible background.
Art As a as a massive Dead to Demons fan, I'm just happy to be
here. Yeah, we got one knob.
We're we're no one watched that show and they should have, but
they didn't. And so, you know, yeah, I, I
understand how these things work on my first row.
Yeah, I, I agree with the O and Ki think the direction is super
good there. What I won't agree with is I
think Apothecary Diaries direction sort of blows the free
run direction out of the water, but they're both good.
The winner of this is free run. So you get your dub there
because you're the Crunchyroll shill.
I'm sorry, that deserves to win. That direction is mind boggling
how good it is. Solid 4th place for me on the
year. I'll take that for the year,
Sure, whatever. OK, Yeah, OK.
Yeah, that was I mean, I named three that I liked more of the
year, right. And then that was that was 4
I'll. Take four overall, yeah, that's
good. OK, best character design.
I know you have an issue with one of these.
Kaiju number. You want the biggest owl of this
entire thing? Is Kaiju #8 being nominated for
this category? It it's not.
And if there was a worst character design of the year
that only should Kaiju #8 should be nominated, it should win.
I OK I don't I don't know if this is going to be a hot take
or not. I like the Danda Dan demon forms
much less than I like any of the character design in Kaiju #8.
I think that the people in the spirits and stuff in Danda Dan
are great. I hate the way they look when
they like power. Out.
Sure. With that being said, Dan to Dan
is our first nomination. OK.
Then we have delicious and dungeon.
This is what you voted for 100% We have demon Slayer.
That makes sense. Another one that absolutely not
being nominated in this. Category I I think Demon Slayer
has pretty good character design.
Just from year over year though that it does nothing, it changes
nothing. It like yeah, the character
designs are the same year over year.
That's why I would not include it.
That's fair that butterfly girl exists and I think that design
is fantastic. There's another sequel that I
will that was left off that I will mention which I think
should be deserved. Here, OK, we have free run from
the free run show. We have Kaiju #8, which I think
we both agree should not be on here.
Nope. And then we have the Apothecary
Diaries, which I voted for right on.
I think yeah, I guess they are. It's a lot less fantastical than
a lot of AKA all of these noms, but I think like the actual like
costume designs and stuff are great in that show.
I think they do a lot to tell you about the characters and
other aspects of characters. Like other than just like
physical design, like the personality designs and stuff I
think are super deep in that show, which is why I voted for
it. Also because I'm a stand Pete,
what are your thoughts here? Yeah, so this one, the one that
I think should have been included, that was missed.
And I'm it did technically come out in 2023, but like it aired
here in 2024. So I think when they have stuff
like that, they include it. And that's Uma Musumi wrote to
the top. I think Uma Musumi's character
designs are absolutely just fucking insane.
And I think it should be included.
But what Delicious and Dodger did for their character design
in this fantasy world that was so unique and so fun.
This is including stuff like the frog suits when they get into
like the poison tentacles, I include as I include as part as
character design, like I think like wardrobes and uniforms and
stuff like that. What they wear are included in
like the character design themselves.
So when they include stuff like that in the shell, for me, this
is a clear front runner winner. It's not going to win, but I
think that this is like I out of these 6, I think it is the best,
but what I think will win, I'll riot if it's Kaiju #8 but I'll
say I'll say freer and wins this one again.
No wait, no Don De. Don hasn't won yet.
I'm going to pick Don De. Don, you're going to pick Don de
Don is 1 it. Hasn't won any.
Like it won like OPS and songs and stuff, but it hasn't won
like a character or show. So I'm going to go with Don De
Don in this one. OK, great.
The winner of this is Don De Don.
Oh wow, I got it right. Let's fucking go, you.
Did and I I just disagree I'm. I'm it's it's.
Fine, I get it. Because I think like the humans
are well designed. Like I think Okrun and Momo and
everyone is like well designed when they're just like people.
Yeah. But I I do not like the the
things that all look like Stain from My Hero Academia.
Yeah, I just, it makes me uncomfy and not even in a way
where I'm like, well, that's what it's supposed to be doing.
Like I'm sure it is. But I I don't care.
I just like it. I can over the delicious and
even like not even just like the main cast, but like we saw so
much included with like the side characters, the monsters that
they're battling. I just think it's so much more
than Don Don, but the I more people probably want.
I think Donna Don character designs are cool.
I wouldn't say they're good. I think they're cool.
I'm fine with it being on this list, I just think it's a if
we're doing a tier list, I think this is AC compared to Delicious
and Dungeon which would be an S. Yeah, I mean, you know, I, you
know, I picked the only show that wasn't a fantasy show.
So OK, if that tells you what you need to know about me, that
is. But I the episode where they do
the character swaps in Delicious Dungeon is I think a great
highlight of how well they understand the design of their
characters because they're able to switch the characters like
who they are and make them look like both characters at the same
time in a very cool way. So something to highlight.
There there's a lot of cool character elements within
Delicious and Dungeon that I I love.
OK, best. Animation, I must stop you right
here. If anything other than Friedrin
wins, it is wrong it Friedrin should win by a massive
landslide. Go ahead.
I didn't vote for free Ren, we have Dan to Dan, delicious and
dungeon demon Slayer. Let me know if you've heard
these before. Kaiju #8 and solo level.
Yeah, it's free, Ren. It's not even close.
Nothing even comes remotely close.
To. Free Ren in this in this I.
Voted for solo leveling. If it wins, I'm OK with it I do
think. I do think soul leveling
animation is good and I think compared to other shows on this
list, it is better than a lot of these other shows.
Free run blows it out of the water.
Like you look at scenes in free run with like the the the stern.
I just combined them Stark and Fern dancing.
We have like the scenes with like Stark putting on his
jacket, Fern adjusting her dress to sit down.
It's like little scenes like that that stand out more to me
than say like a big fight scene because a lot of people can do a
really good fight scene. Friedrin does the fight scenes
not only like incredibly well, but the other scenes.
And that's what sets it apart. Like the dragon scene,
incredible in terms of animation, the the leaning
Lungar versus Fern Sark scene, crazy major mage exam arc when
we had like Friedrin versus clone Friedrin, mind blowing.
Like those moments. There's nothing that those other
five shows do in terms of animation that even comes close
to what Friedrin did. I think that what really sold it
for me on solo levelling is you can see Jenna become horny when.
You motherfucker. Like and it's just so well
animated on her face and then you see the shock when she
realizes it's her brother. Then it.
Drops that which is not animated related but props to the show.
They did the bit and then they dropped it.
What do you think is going to win?
Do you think it's going to be free?
I think it's going to be so leveling, but this is man.
So if Demon Slayer wins, that's that's a massive L, like huge L.
If Demon Slayer wins, if Kaiju #8 wins, that's a huge L.
Delicious and dungeons good. I I'd be OK with that.
Donadon's good. I, I, I don't think I'd be OK
with that one. I'd be OK with delicious.
There's some and solo, really. Good animation.
Yeah, it's just. But like that I.
We're catching the entire series.
Like there's so many shows that have like great moments of
Sokuga. Like there there are slice of
life shows that have some of the best Sokuga I've ever seen.
But consistently through the entire show, nothing comes even
close to free run. Nothing.
I am ready to reveal the winner to run it.
It's demon Slayer that's. Terrible.
That is on par with OK, this is number 2 for biggest L so far.
This is number 2. OK, Blue box is still the
biggest L. Because at least the one fight
and demon Slayer, this thing probably went hard because you
photopulted it. I'm sorry.
It's demon Slayer uses so many flashing layers where people
think it's incredible animation. When you realize it's just
Photoshop layering flashing light, it's like it is good.
You foldable is an S tier studio when it comes to this stuff, but
it's it's not what free Rin did this year.
It's not I'm sorry, it's just not.
Well, I I can't disagree. You can't.
You're not allowed to. It's in your contract.
I, I I've been doing a bad job for the last five years or
whatever, then you have a lot unpaid fine.
Oh God. You should check your work
e-mail. By the way, you have a By the
way, you have a work. Yeah, I.
Have a work e-mail. Oh my God.
By the way, I never gave you your login info for your work
e-mail. Oh my God.
That's yeah, we're just accruing interest.
OK. Best original anime?
OK, try you want to list them. OK, I'm.
Going to list them. OK, but I do have something to
ask you about. We have Buchi Giri, We have
girls band cry which we both voted for as it should win and
it is in fact the odds on betting favorite.
We have Jellyfish Can't Swim in the Night.
I thought you liked more than girls band cry.
So this is one of the things where I think Girls Band Cry is
a better show, but I like Jellyfish better more.
OK. You just resonated with
jellyfish like a bit more, but you agree with like different,
OK. Yes, Girls Band Cry is a
structurally better show. OK, they have the map of Please
don't Hate us. Metallic Rouge is up here.
See come on please. We have Ninja Kamui.
And then I I forgot to change the name so I have written solo
leveling, but it is actually trained to the end of all.
Sure it might. As well be solo leveling.
Yeah, and the winner is we. I mean, we have a whole episode
on Girls Band Cry if you want to go listen to that.
We both really liked it. Spoiler alert, we do.
What are your thoughts here, Pete?
Missing Bravern was a massive L, including something like Ninja
Comboy and Metallic Rouge which were critically pan, critically
pan. Like nobody likes these shows
and they got included. And something like Bravern,
which was a huge sleeper hit and a cult classic and everything
like that should absolutely be included as one of the best
originals of last year. Girls man cry.
I mean should mop the floor. Like it should win.
What what were the other? What would be a nomination that
was girl trending out of the world was fun, but like it was
not even close to being popular enough.
Like it did not have the same traction as girls man cry.
And I think Uchigiri I also think was critically pan.
OK. Yes.
So there's three shows in here that should not be in here.
I mean, I guess I have to like run through, but like I think
Mecca Ude came out last year that was probably should have
been included. Bravern should have been
included. I'm trying to think if there's
any other. I'm sure there's an original out
there that should have been included over this.
But like, it doesn't matter because Girls band Cry should
win and will win. My pick is girls man cry.
No, Pete, when we first started this, I said there was a
category where I was like, what the absolute fuck?
Yeah, this is the category. Oh, OK.
The winner of this is Ninja com. What the fuck?
Yep. That show dropped two full
points on Mal after episode 4. Do you know how hard that is to
do 2 points that point that point to two points?
I get it. I I know this is a Phase I I
don't know how this happened. I saw like a thing that was
basically talking about because I think it's aired on Netflix.
This was a Adult Swim. Oh, OK.
So it was basically talking about how because it had this
large viewership base and fan voting is such a large part of
this that if there's any sort of dissension within the expert
panel, it just ends up being a popularity contest the way that
it's structured, I guess. And so they were just basically
explaining like there was actually never a chance
Girlfriend Cry could win because not enough people have watched
it. Yeah, this is one of those ones
that like you need to have no fan votes like I'm sorry, like
or have your fan vote be significantly reduced and I
just. Don't think there should be fan
anyways. I like Jake.
Guess what you should do like how we structure it and have
both. You should have a community we.
Could do that too. Yeah, yeah.
And that would be fun. And then like industry people.
Industry, yes. Hell, even Reddit gets it right.
Reddit gets it right because it should be two different things.
You should, you should capture what the people of your
community are voting for. But then you should also have,
you know, whatever. I guess for us it's me, but like
you should have like a a staple for your whatever your content
is, because people are people are coming here for us.
They don't want to be like, well, the population vote was
39%. They want to hear what we're
talking about. So you need to have that with
your with your community. This is a bigger L than blue box
like not at. Least blue blue box eventually
becomes a room. It does eventually, yeah.
Ninja Combi, first of all, should not even be on the the
nominations, let alone even be in consideration to win and then
actually win it. So this is the biggest L of the
the entire award so far. This was my biggest sell.
This was like, it's like the only things I have heard about
Ninja Ka MUI was that this show sucks.
Yeah I get why metallic Rouge is on there even though it's bad
because you have to play nice with Papa.
I get it. Yep.
But like our bones or whoever did it.
Bones did. It was metallic Rouge.
Yeah, that's whatever the the studio that hit the bet on that.
You know, I I didn't need girls band cry to win.
I think it's the best of this options.
But like if it wasn't just something that I only knew for
being bad, it would have stung less.
Yeah 100%. Just for reference, Ninja com we
on Mao 6.62 girls band Cry 8.38 so yeah. 6.62 is legitimately
hard to do. 1.75 points better. Like that is that is very bad.
That's very bad, yes. That is like being in the sixes
is hard. It just sort of means no one
really liked your show. Best new anime.
OK, this is going to be weird for us because a lot of these
like because of the timing on this, it's like a lot of these
shows if I had like 48 episodes or whatever.
Now Dan to Dan delicious and dungeon free run paiju #8 solo
leveling in the apothecary Diaries.
So we're seeing, you know, these shows reappear a lot, which
makes sense. You picked free rid.
I picked the apothecary Diaries. We've we've had this out a few
different times. What are your thoughts here,
Pete? Yeah, this is 1 where it's like,
OK, shows are going to be getting multiple seasons going
forward. Out of the six, which ones are
either your favorite or best or popular?
I'd I don't know if I have like an issue with any of these
winning because it's sort of just like a.
Page #8. I I wouldn't pick it to win, but
like if someone picked Kaiju #8 to win, like I this is a
whatever category. Like it doesn't say anything
about the show. Like it doesn't say that it is
beautifully animated or has good fights or has good dialogue.
It just says it's just the best news it.
Just means it's at least OK and it's a new.
Series it's at least it's OK and it's probably getting multiple
seasons. I picked free Ren.
I just think in terms of like the juggernaut of that, what
that franchise is, I think it's there.
However, you know Soul Levelling is getting pushed out the ass
with Crunchyroll, that being awards.
I picked free Ren. Soul Levelling is going to win.
But you got to repeat the the what?
The what? The jugger, The jugger what The
juggernaut. You said nut.
You said the jugger nut. I'm the juggernaut.
Which is really funny anyways. Oh, sorry, I missed a vowel.
Whatever. Well, no, just because you said
the word nut dude. That's why I'm laughing,
because. I'd be a mature.
One, I wasn't trying to. Yeah.
Well, you should like the humor. It is funny, but you're but
you're making fun of me so I don't like it.
OK, fair. Enough.
OK, the winner of this is solo level, Sure.
So good call on that. I mean, it would not be my first
choice, but it's probably my third favorite out of what we
had listed. So yeah, it'd be 3 or 4.
I'll take it. Yeah.
It's fine. Yeah, whatever.
OK, best continuing anime. There's a lot of categories, by
the way. We got 3 left right.
Something like that. I just remember when I started
making this and I finished like all the music things, I was
like, that's got to be most of them.
And there was like 20 left. Yeah, there's.
Like there's 24 categories. OK we got Bleach, Thousand year
Blood war. We got Demon Slayer, the
training arc. We have My Hero academia, One
Piece, Oshi no Co and Spy Family.
We both voted for Oshi no Co. It's not winning, I'll tell you
that much. I think this is the the One
Piece wins it because it's like the only thing it was really
nominated for the the the OP got nominated earlier than the fan
letter got nominated. But like, this is like the only
like One Piece show nomination and I think it won it last year.
So this is like the One Piece. Thank you for existing and
making so many people Anime fans award.
Yeah, it's like it's been running forever.
It makes sense. Like I guess if if any category
to win, for One Piece to win continuing series makes the most
sense to me. So though I do think Oceano Co
is the best pick, I'm going to pick One Piece that wins it.
What if I were to tell you that it wasn't one piece?
Bleach maybe? Demon Slayer.
Why? Why I don't I don't do these
people. They like demon Slayer.
Yo, like, come, I, I know it's I know we're I'm running a little
bit on fumes right now. We've been going for like an
hour, almost two hours. Look, I don't want to say
anything bad about people who are voting demon Slayer in this,
but you are legitimately incorrect.
Like straight up, I'm sorry. And it's been my understanding,
though, is that this arc, it did, the fans are like whatever
on it. Like people who are big Demon
Slayer fans are just sort of like.
I'm pretty sure it's the lowest rated demon Slayer arc so far.
It's I, I, I know like the contents of it.
I, I read the manga. So like, I know what this arc
covers. So it's just like, it's just,
it's a setup arc like like yes, things happen in it, but it's,
it's not Tokyo blade. Like it's not like, I'm sorry,
whatever happened in one piece, I don't know what happened in
one piece. I guarantee you it's more
impactful than whatever happened in freaking Demon Slayer.
Like I guarantee it. This is this is a bad.
I would say this is. Is this an L?
You could say it's an Li. Think that's a lower with the
understanding. Yeah, like from people I have
talked to who love Demon Slayer, they're like this arc is
whatever. Like it's not bad, we still like
it, but like, it's not what you're looking forward to or
whatever. But I don't know, maybe maybe
it's it is good. And also it's just a very
popular show, which probably. There's multiple people in our
discord that like when it was Aaron, it's like even Slayer
cool, cool episode. And that was it.
Like that was the end of the conversation.
It's just like, and when I read it, I was just like, all right,
we're just literally setting up for the Infinity Castle.
Like that's what this arc is for.
It is to set up the grand finale.
So like if Infinity Castle or whatever it's called wins, I get
it, but this? No, no, this is this is a
lowercase L. Film of the year?
Oh, you don't get to see my little joke here.
We have High Q, the dumpster and I wrote anime instead of battle.
Miles, you're so fucking funny. Bro, I know.
Thank you. We have look back which you
voted for. It is the favorite on the
betting markets. We have Mononoke the Phantom in
the Rain, which I voted for. Loved it.
Which is not the betting favorite.
I. Think anybody else have watched
that movie? We have My Hero Academia.
You're next, which sort of sounds like a threat.
Guess what? Bitch.
We have spy family code white and the colors within.
I have seen five of the six of these movies and kind of like a
whatever year for movies I would say in terms of how many we got,
not in terms of quality because like you Look Back and Monoke, I
gave 10's and Colors with it and Code White I gave 9.
So like I really enjoyed the movies that we got.
I picked Look Back, I think it should win and will win.
I think Look Back was fantastic. It definitely deserves film of
the year. But I'd be OK with, you know,
Monoke has no chance, but I'd be OK with it winning.
And Haikyu I would say has an outside chance.
And I loved the movie. So so.
OK I I just want to take this this moment to air my grievances
on Haiku. I enjoyed this movie.
I think I gave it an 8. You watched the Doctor battle?
Yes. Oh, I had no.
Idea I've watched all of haiku that is available so far per my
legally bonding contract with Galaxy.
You're a legend. Yeah, well, anyways, so I
thought these two fighting Hinata and blonde Hinata was
sort of like end game. Because Nekama, that's who they
are, right? They've been counted as the big
bad this entire series. They have that.
They have I've I've watched it in the last.
Year. No way.
They are not. They are.
There's no way they're considered like the top.
And then we just learn about some school we've never heard of
and they're secretly the best once this arc starts and and
they have black haired Hinata who's even shorter or is he have
white hair? I can't remember other Hinata.
Well, yeah, you should. He's gonna be the antagonist of
the climax of the series. I should rewatch the movie.
He's like, also very short. You don't hear my thoughts since
I don't remember. We did a movie review of the The
Haiku movie. OK I I will do that then.
Anyways, I I was just sad that Haiku has done this to me a few
times where they fight people we know and then like another
school shows up and I've never heard of them and they don't
matter. Like when they beat those people
to go fight Shirakawa. Like I thought that guy was
going to be like the main thing to get into nationals.
But then they just, they just they're like, oh, here's the guy
who's actually even better that we've not talked about until
now. And I was like, that's, that's
kind of lame. ANYWAYS, it was a good
volleyball match. I thought it was fun.
I thought the characterization was good.
But Haiku, you know, keeps on rug pulling me on who the
actual, like, best volleyball team is, and it annoys me.
That being said, it's a good movie.
And that being said, the winner is look back, which I think is,
yeah, not surprising. OK, anime of the year.
OK, we're finally here. Now I want to see if you can
guess the nominees for this. Well they already been out so
it's what? Free Ren Apothecary Kaiju solo
dungeon? Meshy Dandenan.
That's exactly it. These are, you might notice, the
exact same nominees from Best New Anime.
What won best new anime? Solo leveling.
OK solo leveling don't win anime of the year then, that's my
thing. Not a bad guess going off of
precedent. I voted apothecary Diaries, you
voted free. Written The betting favorite was
free. Ren, yeah.
And Free Ren should win the same thing.
When I go back to my best animation discussion, I think
Free Ren is a generational anime.
I think it's something that will be talked about for decades.
For what the show did, I think it's just above everything else
that came out last year. Even though there are stories
that I love that came out next year, I don't think anything
even comes close to touching Free Ren.
Yeah, I think Apothecary Diaries is better than Free Ren.
I get it. I don't really have it.
Look, I'm happy it's here. I'm happy it got nominated for
anime of the year because honestly, we have 5 shows that
predominantly feature action and all of that.
And then we have like an historical piece.
So I'm just excited to to be at the party that is, you know, my
thoughts on it, even though I would love it if it won and I
and I think it should. I really do love free run.
Free run would be my second place vote.
And then I would go solo leveling and probably dungeon
Meshy and then Dan to Dan. And then I would probably say
some anime. That looks so leveling more than
dungeon meshy. I do.
That's honestly super surprising.
It is super surprising, but it's also not surprising.
The reason it's not surprising is because I have said dungeon
meshy would be better if they didn't cook.
In it, that's true. You did say that you you hate
the one of the main focal points of that story.
There's a lot of good things in Dungeon Messi and there's a lot
of things that I was personally a little bored with, but I guess
to like score things out really quick.
I gave apothecary Diaries for 10, I gave solo leveling A9, I
gave Dungeon Messi an 8, and I like Dungeon Messi, it's just
not my particular T. Before you get to the the
winners though, I just got to say in terms of this, I would be
cool with it next year if Soul leveling season 2 was on anime
of the year. I think this is a maybe part of
my rant that I want to get to, but I think including something
like season 1 of Soul Leveling when you are the Crunchyroll
awards and I understand that you are wanting to promote shows
that you are putting a lot of money into it.
Like I get it. I get why Kaiju #8 and Soul
Leveling are on everything. Yeah, I think if you've noticed,
Kaiju #8 has won nothing so far. It has not no until.
I don't think it's winning, which would be it would be very
on brand for Kaiju #8 to win. Anime of the year and nothing.
Else if the devil may cry baby. Yeah, yeah.
I just think for, I like, I like soul leveling, like I, I think
season 2 is a significant step up from season 1.
So season 1 being included in a lot of these to me is a slap in
the face. I think it's really just like
there's like a level of like corporate greed where you need
to stop. I'm a huge wrestling fan in WWE.
They do promotional stuff all the time.
Like to get, you know, there's the prime logo in the center of
the ring and then there's like a prime hydration stand on the
side to get the the prime sponsorship.
Like I think it's stupid, but I understand why it is there in
terms of that. But if you have 40 prime
advertisements somewhere, that's too much.
And it's like you're pushing away what makes, you know, like
why we are here. And it it is a little ironic
that Crunchyroll started off as like a pirating site and is now
just like a corporate whatever it is.
But when you would you want to show, would you want to showcase
the year that it was 2023? We had hundreds, hundreds of
seasonals. Is season 1 of Solo Leveling
really a top 6 show? Is Kaiju #8 really a top 6 show?
And I think even somebody who has watched 3020 seasonals would
say no like it. It's not even close to the same
level in production and and talent and the outcomes of the
stories that we've gotten compared to something like free
run, compared to something like Delicious and Dungeon like I
just don't think that there are they these should be left off of
like the end of the year and we should actually showcase what
was the top 6 show. And yeah, I think on this list
there's three of them that should not be.
So I would say four. Yeah.
While I'm cool with soul leveling being on like some of
the other ones, it I think it should absolutely not be on
here. And it sucks because it's
probably going to win like. Yeah.
I it shouldn't. I guess like, I think it's like
a hard thing to do and it's a bit of a self fulfilling
prophecy, right? They push these shows.
So I have friends at work who aren't seasonal watchers who
watch a couple of anime at a season, maybe like two or three.
Right? Like they don't even know what a
seasonal is though that's just happens to be what they're
watching. Whatever area, yeah.
Yeah. And like, they will talk to me
about Kaiju #8, they will talk to me about solo levelling, they
will talk to me about free rend. In fact, they will talk to me
about five of these shows. Now some of these shows are
worthy as you, as you've said, you know, I think we have like 2
Netflix shows on here and you know, and they're not afraid to
put non things. But when stuff gets promoted and
more people watch it, and then when you have these awards,
which are clearly influenced by popularity to a very large
amount, it's it's self fulfilling.
You know what I mean? Like, I don't even know if it's
Crunchyroll's greed because someone is paying the money to
promote Kaiju #8 everywhere, right?
So they do that. So a ton of people watch Kaiju
#8 and Crunchyroll has pull. You know, if there were a high
dive horse, you know one, they would somehow be worse than
this, even though it would be hard and like they wouldn't
work, right? They would just like have anime
from 2007 on there or something, but like that the the brand high
dive wouldn't be drawing in as many people as Crunchyroll.
Like I know a lot of people who are anime casuals who watch
Crunchyroll. They have a Crunchyroll account,
but they're not going to look for anime anywhere other than
Crunchyroll and Netflix. And honestly, that gets you 90%
of the way there, you know, and that's not me like I, I don't
know, I'm not trying to like get keep that, you know what I mean?
So if you're trying to you promoted these shows and some
large percentage of your audience, like like any given
audience, a larger percentage of it is going to be casuals than
like diehards, right? You know, we're in a community
where out of the people who do seasonal reviews and stuff, I'm
watching like somewhere between 8:00 and 12:00 seasonals a
season. And that is low for our
community. That is very high for your
average person who is interested in.
You're in the top 1%. I would.
Say exactly we're in the same percentile probably, and you
watch probably twice as much as me if you're rounding to your
nearest one. Yeah, obviously, you know,
you're probably like 99 point 9th or whatever.
But I I guess my thought is like, I don't know how much of
it is corporate greed because you have shows here and shows of
one that aren't Crunchyroll shows.
Yeah. But that's like we, I think we
got there. There's like a pre Sony era and
a post Sony era and we are in a post Sony era and I think it
we're going to continue to see stuff like this.
I I mean I agree, but delicious and dungeon is a Netflix show
and Dan to Dan is a Netflix show and they.
I think Dan's on both. Was it on both?
I think it's on Crunchyroll and Netflix if I'm not mistaken.
OK, I did. I I saw it premiering on
Netflix. For what?
It's science, Saru. It was almost certainly Netflix.
I think actually because they have that deal with Netflix.
Yeah is on Crunchyroll. Oh OK, count it.
So delicious in Dungeon, a show which is 1 zero awards, but it's
been eliminated for many, you know, was on there.
But no, you do raise a good point there.
I I don't know. I just don't know how much of it
is like a chicken or an egg thing.
Right. Like whoever like Toho Animation
pays them a billion dollars to promote Kaiju #8.
What are they going to do, say no?
Yeah. And then everyone knows who
Kaiju #8 is now, and they'll be disappointed if it's not on this
list. We're on the same way.
We're on the same way, but there's there is a, there is a
limit that we don't know until we like feel it where it's like,
OK, this is over saturation of Kaiju #8.
This is over saturation of soul leveling.
I don't think that I don't know how many people share this
opinion, but I think it's just kind of what it is.
And the truth is in the West, this is viewed as our Oscars,
whether we like the production value that goes into it.
And like, that's what sets it apart from like anime corner,
anime trending. What do you say?
Anime Award. It's like, yeah, well, this is
industry people, right? They put this on.
Industry, they put hundreds of thousands, if not millions of
dollars to it. And so it's like when you are I
guess, I guess it's like this. It's you have a, you have a like
whatever the public thinks about you.
And when we come to stuff like this, you get to choose how
greedy or how out of the loop you want to be in terms of
wanting to push the product. I just think this year it was
too much. It reminded me a lot of the My
Hero Academia awards when that one everything, it was dominated
for everything. And we saw like I maybe I
thought it might be a little different from like changing how
we structure things like last year where we saw a chainsaw man
get nominated for like 25 things and won one.
And it's just like, OK, maybe the big shonen properties aren't
going to win everything. And this year it's like, I feel
like we're going back a step instead of going forward.
But I guess we still need to hear what one because it's
something like if delicious and dungeon won.
I I I think that's all like controls like on brand for like
so many different things. Like it's done the thing where
it's like the Super popular shonen series wins 15
categories, but then anime of the year is some random show
that like 15 people watched. Like when Apari Ronman got
nominated for Anime of the Year, it's like, who the fuck watched
Apari Ronman? I did, I dropped it.
Or we could do the the My Hero Academia awards where it's
nominated for 17 things and wins 14 of it.
I just think of how we're how we're feeling right now, man Sol
Levelling's going to win. I just know it's going to win.
Just say it. Yeah, solo loving one, but there
is I I did do a joke and I thought you'd be looking at the
slides where I say free grin and then I say LOLJK, solo levelling
1. So I think that's funny.
You know, as someone who, as someone who has been defending
solo levelling or good, because I do enjoy it, right, like you,
you said, is it the top 6? Is it's not in my top 6 anime of
last year, I presume, because like off the top of my head, I
can think of four that I would place higher.
So it's not hard to get those other two and you know, I just
can't think of them like right off the top of my head.
But you know, I do agree. Like I I think it's it's
interesting how it goes. Like we have well, what do we
have here? So we have it's delicious
dungeon, a shonen or. It's a sign in.
A sign in. OK so we have what 2 sign in
three shonen and a manwa? Which, yeah, I mean if we, if we
had that, if. It was made in Japan.
It would probably be shonen. It's a shonen.
So yeah, yeah, that's that's sort of, I guess The Apothecary
Diaries is a light novel. Yeah, it's but it's manga as a
sign in. Yeah, that's a little different,
but yeah, it is a sign in so interesting.
Yeah, that that was it it I wasn't the most upset with it.
I think it's wrong, mind you, but again, it was like my third
favorite show of this list. But I do understand that it's
not the correct choice because I think like one does it.
Should it even be here when it's like an intro arc sort of thing
and we have an arc that pretty much everyone agrees is better
going on right now. And then we have, you know,
shows that we love like girls been cried that the demons,
etcetera that aren't on this list like at all, you know, so.
I I just, I just remembered something about this year's
awards. Compared to what?
Does it include? Yeah, and the fact that freaking
JJK won Anime of the year last year for Hidden Inventory, which
is 6 episodes or whatever, and Shibuya is not nominated for
anything in this award. Yep, JJK was nominated for one
thing. Turkish voice actor or
something? Yes, it was Hindi voice action,
Yeah. Man, it's just the structure of
this year, like with them doing like the the time frames that
they're doing like including shows from 2023.
That way they could even they can like flatten it for the
years following. Like I get it, but it just
seemed really clunky this year. Like what I think is weird is
that this is a larger selection of shows than we are ever going
to see and have ever seen. And I don't know, even though I
like a lot, a lot of well, I think so because like that that
are in the pool, right, Because it's starts at 2023 and it goes
through what? Like in terms of that, Yeah,
yeah, yeah. I thought you meant like number
of shows actually nominated. OK.
No, no, no, no. That's what I'm saying.
So like that even though I like a lot of these shows, right?
Like, I I love Friedrich. Should it be nominated for best
drama? I don't know.
I don't like. Yeah, like I think it, you know,
like for that aspect of unless it's just like, it's tough
because you could be like, OK, what's the best show that could
reasonably qualify as a genre? And then of course it should be
in there. But do you want to be like, what
shows are the best because of the drama that they have?
I would say no. Agreed.
So. I mean, that gets that gets to
the end of it. I guess what I would say more
than anything is it's I know it's just I have a selfish need
or want because we have our own awards, but really find a
community that you mesh with at least like, I don't know, 60% of
the time, it doesn't have to be 100%.
You're never going to find that. But find like a community and
mesh with that. You mesh with and like engage
with those people and have like your own awards and whatever.
Because, you know, we see different communities with like
anime trending and Anime Corner where they have like their skews
towards different shows that I'm not particularly a fan of.
But like, if you are like that should be your your like crown
jewel. Like that should be like the
award show that you are wanting. Because like for me as somebody
who does this, like I take so much time to go not only consume
all of these shows, but like have an unbiased reasoning of
like why these shows should be included.
And when you, when I do it, I would love to see it
reciprocated within like with these awards and other awards.
When you don't see that, when you see like shows that like are
so out of left field, it to me it kills like credibility.
And it also just to me, it shows that like you're doing this for
different reasons. So I would just say, if you like
our awards, I would love if you continue supporting it.
But if you love other people's awards, continue to support
them. And just make the best that you
can with like the medium that we love.
Because I know people shun the Oscars all the time and people
shun the Crunchyroll awards all the time.
And I just, I guess to me, I don't want Crunchyroll awards to
be something that we are planning on shitting on every
year. And that's kind of what it.
Is Yeah, I, you know, I, I agree with that.
I think it's interesting because it's almost the opposite problem
that the Oscars have, were the Oscars tend to get a bit self
graduatory, yeah. 100%. Because right where they, you
know, there was that whole period where they did a whole
bunch of like white saviour stuff to like show how much they
cared about like minorities and everything and like, and fucking
Oh my God, what is that? What is that movie with the
cops? No, it's like there's like a cop
and then he like learns to hate black people.
And then everyone was like, Oh, is.
It Gyllenhaal movie. No, that's Nightcrawler.
No, that's a different. There's a, There's a.
Crash crash. I've never seen crash.
Anyways, that movie fucking sucks picture.
There's a few movies that fucking suck in in one.
Fucking Fargo. Not Fargo.
Argo. I'll say Fargo kicks ass.
No Fargo's great Argo, which is a is a movie The.
Yeah, that was all right. It was OK.
Yeah. Yeah, Best picture?
No. That's what.
That's what soul leveling is. Me.
Soul leveling is Argo. That's fair.
You like like Ben Affleck wasn't even nominated for best director
and then it won best picture anyways, point being.
And then like the time, you know, they were like, fuck it,
Leo here, here, have an award the.
Reverend. Yep, there you go.
Yeah, which which was fine. It was a good movie.
But like that, that's it. And all this to say, there's a
lot of politics that go into something when it becomes at the
scale of any of these things, right, like the Oscars or even
smaller like the Crunchyroll awards, there's still going to
be a lot of politics involved. You want to make people happy
that are supporting you. You want to make people happy
who are industry, you know, you don't want to piss people off.
You're working with that is inherent.
So the benefit of a smaller communities, you know, like Pete
has shouted out like anime Corner anime trainings us,
whoever you know, your feet like even fucking trash taste or
something, right? Like even a podcast that's the
biggest anime podcast is so much smaller compared to this.
They can do whatever they want because it doesn't really
matter. You know, they can we can do we
can talk shit about Kaiju #8 and the people that paid us 10s of
$1,000,000 to promote it a ton are not gonna be upset because
they don't care because we have 1000 listeners like which is
nice. So just try to find a community
that you drive with and if you like the crunchy reward award
winners, like for sure fuck with it.
I don't care. I think that that's good and I
think it shows generally what the most popular shows are in
the community from a like a grander scale.
And so if that is what you want to engage with, please do.
If you want to find a more niche community, please do.
Unless you voted for blue box. Yeah, if you love for Blue Box,
get out of every community. Like you.
Need to read a book? That that was, that wasn't our
biggest all of the day there. What was your biggest?
It was Demon Slayer winning. No bang girl girls bang cry
ninja combo. Yeah, Ninja combo E Yeah, yeah,
yeah. Yeah, that was.
Yeah, Yeah, that was. But I don't think there's anyone
who who likes Ninja Combo E, so I don't.
That's so weird. Yeah, I don't.
Maybe people had just seen it and that's why it.
Maybe it was. Like I've seen the show.
Girls Man Cry is on Crunchyroll, go watch it.
Yeah, it took him a while. It did take him a while.
It's there. OK, yeah, he was what I am
tired. I'm sure you are tired.
This was a long episode, but I had fun as always talking anime
with you, Pete. The the only bad thing about
long episodes like this is now we're at the point and where
it's weather outside where now my room is like 97° because my
computer heated my room so I'm. Sweating my.
Balls off. So let's wrap up the show.
Miles, thank you for making that sick ass PowerPoint.
You didn't have to, but you did. So I want to say thank you for
that. I want to say thank you to
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Bye bye, bye, bye, bye bye.