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Hello, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to what do you say
anime. I'm your host, Peter.
On today's episode, we will be doing a mailbag, something we've
never done before. And I thought, you know, this
might be kind of fun to answer questions from our community,
whether it's anime, manga related or just plain old fun.
Joining me today, we have Miles and Pat.
They will be answering the questions along with me.
So gentlemen want to say thank you.
What we're going to do is kind of do like a little
introduction. This is your first time, last
time watching us, you got to get to know us a little bit.
So we're just going to talk about like what our favorites
are for the anime Sphere and then jump into our questions.
So the first question that we had was what are your favorite
anime manga, OST and characters in general?
I can start here. My favorite anime is Violet
Evergarden manga's Berserk. My favorite OST is Made an
Abyss, specifically season 2. I do think all of them are
fantastic. And my favorite characters are
Reagan from Mob Cycle 100 and Sarsa Watanabe from Kagiki
Shojo. Miles, how about you?
Yeah, so I'm Miles and I'm going to have a very wholesome list,
just like Pete. My favorite anime is Devil Man
Crybaby. What's?
My favorite show? Joe.
I knew where this is going the second you.
Said wholesome. My favorite OST is the Mobile
Suit Gundam Wish for Mercury OST and I God I don't know my
favorite characters it you know they can change any day.
I'm going to say my favorite antagonist I know pretty easily
is Makashima from Psychopaths and maybe it's just because a
picture of her is staring me at the face right now but I'm going
to go with Sueta Mercury currently.
But that is possible to change from my favorite protagonist.
Nice. Yeah.
All right. And I'm Patrick and I would also
say Violet Evergarden is one of my favorites but I'll go with
Gurren Lagann just to be a little different.
Favorite manga is Rooney Kenshin with a shout out to Domestic
Girlfriend as well. Really fun one.
Favorite OSD is probably either Violet Evergarden or Bebop.
Really likes Killer Kills soundtrack too when I was
thinking about it. You know, like All the Rock
really fits the show very well. And then my favorite character
probably will go with, Let's go with just something different,
the sake of it. We'll go with Kaga Koko from
Golden Time, I think. That is different.
It's different. She's up there.
I don't know, I had AI had a couple of them in there like
Sakata from Bunny Girl. Senpai I think is a really fun
character as well. NIA from Gurren Lagann.
But yeah, let's go with Kaga Koko.
I think she's really fun so. Awesome.
Well, that is our introductions and we're all getting to our
questions. These were submitted to us by
our community through different various means, Twitter, Discord,
YouTube, everything if you want to join the carrier.
Pigeon. Well, that was weird, but yeah,
I know. It kept like, knocking on my
window. I'm like, what do you want?
And then had a note and I was like, Oh my God.
Thank you, Sox. Well, yeah.
If you want to join our community, links to our discord
is in the description below. So let's get to our first
question. And Speaking of Sox, this comes
from Sox. His question dear, what do you
say? Anime podcast, longtime
listener, first time caller. Do you find yourself watching
anime with a different mindset when you are doing it for Watch
Club or to review it when you are just simply watching it?
I feel like with Secret Santa, I put myself in a much more
critical mindset. So there's something to discuss
that's outside of the way I usually watch things when just
doing it for fun. So I'm curious if there's a
difference for the members of the pod, given the frequency
with the shows that you view a more critical lens.
I guess I can start. I think for me, it's sort of
just kind of just how we'd structure our episodes and how
we talk about things sort of just like evolved how I consume
the media. So, you know, there are things
where I miss that I rely on other people for and then that
makes me get a different viewpoint of those shows.
And with that, I kind of start looking for other things in the
show that way I can bring it to the table and so we can like
converse with it. So I think I, I would say that
I'd never not paid attention to the shows I watch, but I think I
pay more attention to shows that I watch.
And therefore I kind of have a more critical viewpoint because
I am trying to like look for specific things for us to talk
about. So I think that's just sort of
how it all come together. And then just now, this is how I
consume anime and just media in general pretty much.
How about you, Miles? Yeah, so most of the time I
watch watch club shows the way that I would watch anything.
There are going to be two key differences here.
So normally I do like to have like a critical eye and
everything I try to, you know, think about the work relatively
well. But sometimes I, I put a lot of
effort into it, you know, lots of note taking, lots of looking
things up, lots of, you know, all of that sort of stuff that
comes with it re watching things.
And that is if I think I'm going to be a hater for something
that's popular is one of those scenarios.
You want to bring the receipts? Yeah.
Yeah, like, I think the best example of this for me would be
my Bunny girl at senpai section where like I knew everyone loved
it. And so, you know, when I started
watching it and I was like, oh, like, I actually think this is
like kind of mid. I did a lot of effort to make
sure, you know, all my thoughts were organized and that I was
correct on everything that I was thinking about, you know, and
that I, my criticisms were something that I like had firm
belief in. The alternative to this, the I
guess exact flip of the coin is sometimes when I like the bad
shows, I will put a lot of effort into defending that so
that I can just say complicated words and sentences to people to
confuse them and make me make my point seem better than it really
is. But like, I think a good example
of that would be something like Yuri is my job, where like I
really looked into like S class tropes and references and things
that happened there in order to at least make the case that it
it was a well made piece of media, even if it wasn't
people's cup of tea. And so that's sort of when I try
hard, but most of the time I'm I'm watching things like I would
just. Yeah, and I feel like watch club
completely changed not just how I watch anime, but TV in
general. Like just by I feel like I'm
almost always in the same mindset.
Obviously there are certain shows, you know, that they're a
little bit more brainless that I turn it off for.
But in general, like I, I feel like now I just watch shows with
through a critical lens and obviously that's where the how
much I enjoy it versus how good I think it is.
Those can blend together into the same score still and impact
the score pretty significantly either direction.
But I feel like, yeah, I'm pretty consistent now with just
every single show. I'm like looking at like, oh,
was, was this smart that this makes sense?
What what was going on here? What were they trying to say?
What was the message of the show, etcetera, Which I mean,
I've always liked critiquing and and I don't know, I guess
reading in in general or, or watching TV.
But now I'm even more picky, I guess, or, or or more critical
than I used to be, for sure. So it doesn't really ever turn
off, you know, other than what I'm watching, I don't know,
Chicago Fire. And then I suddenly become a
well. Then you're taking notes, right?
Like dedicatedly. Yep.
Yeah, exactly. Then I'm really locked in.
I I go from locking, they're really locked in.
Yeah, no. The script, right, you're like,
what was the stage direction on this scene?
I wonder why he entered stage left.
That's interesting. There usually is a reason too.
It's pretty fun. It's a well written shot.
No, I'm not. Well, I think we all know what
Pat's answers will be for the next question.
But yeah, but I, I think real quick though, I think viewing
things through a critical lens, I, I kind of like with miles,
with shows that I don't enjoy, I try now to find a reason why
people do enjoy it, to see if I can view it through a different
lens. Because a lot of times if I'm
watching say like a seasonal and if I'm not having fun with it,
I'm dropping it like immediately.
But if it's something through Watch Club where I'm watching an
entire series, especially if it's something that people
enjoy, I definitely try to go out of my way to try to why
people are enjoying this. And I think your example for
Yuri is my job is a really good example because there's a lot of
great reasons why the show is well constructed and stuff like
that. So I definitely tried to go into
with like now, even if it is critical, a more open mindset
for things that I'm not necessarily my cup of tea.
And I I think because of that, it's I I can see a lot more in
this medium because of it. So I, I, I'm really happy with
what we got with the watch club and kind of like how it's
changed my viewpoint so well, let's I, I'll let Pat answer
this question first. But if it was watch club, what
non anime would you want to watch for watch club?
Yeah, so I was going to jokingly say Chicago Fire, but then but
for like a real answer, Chicago Pete.
Yeah, Chicago. Pete Star, 911.
Blue Bloods. Excuse me, No, Lone Star.
Lone Star is not a real show. Let's get out of here with that.
No, if I could actually choose something though, I think I
would like to see us do some Tarantino stuff.
Like I, I don't know, maybe that's such an over saturated
area of, I guess film. Criticism.
That was not intentional. I all right, so to be very fully
clear, like what my original answer was was Django or
Inglorious Basterds. I those are two of the best
movies I think I've like ever. And I I adore them and I would
love talking about them every single goddamn scene of them.
And I think that that would be a really fun watch club for us to
all do because outside of that, I really haven't.
Or maybe Dune. Dune would be another good one.
And I would love to talk about Dune.
It also had follows our theme though, too, where it's like,
oh, there's older source content.
And, you know, like trying to compare it, maybe it would fit
pretty well because I don't watch a lot of American TV
otherwise other than sports. So yeah, this was a tough one
for me. But yeah, I think Django or
something Tarantino asked would work.
How about you, Miles? Yeah, I think that I would.
It's tough because like a lot of the the Western things that I
watch are pretty long form. But I, you know, I just really
love scrubs. That would be fun to watch.
So I, I think I, I would make everyone go through all eight
seasons of Scrubs. That's what I would do.
Wow, Yep, that is it that I mean, I love scrubs, so don't
get me wrong, I I I like it, but I don't know if I would want to
do oh, how do we do that? Like blocks of episodes.
Yeah, I, I have no idea. I mean, it, it would be sort of
impossible, I guess if if I, if I wanted to pick something
shorter than scrubs, maybe I would just oh God.
OK. Like I would just do like, OK,
here, here's the answer. I would, I would have us watch
specifically season three of community without any context or
anything. So we're just jumping in and
watching exactly season three of.
Community OK, that's a good answer.
OK, Mine is a little bit of a meme, but it's also a show that
we have done for Watch Club and it's something that I would like
to continue. I wanna watch New Moon.
I will continue our Twilight Saga.
That episode was super fun. We got Burley Cat's wife to join
us and she was like a Twilight expert.
So if we had any questions, she was there to like answer it.
And I think by the end, at some point, the podcast must end.
And when that podcast time ends, I would like us to have watched
all 5 Twilight movies. Our last episode should be
Eclipse. Yeah, I do, yeah.
Eclipse Part 2 for sure. Yes.
And then that's how we ride into the sunset, and then the sun
will literally dissolve us, and then it's over.
Yeah, it'd be perfect, right? OK, Oh 'cause we're vampires, I
get. It.
If if three people comment on this video saying they want us
to watch New Moon, we will. It would be our for April Fools.
You can't be one of those people, and your mom can't be
one of. Them.
Oh come on, she leaves the best comments.
She does very funny. Good.
I like everybody's answers. Let's move on to our next
question. This comes from oh, sorry, that
last question was from Jay, by the way.
So moving on to our next question is from writer Sharp.
He says, what is the biggest anime blind spot you want to
fill? And we sort of broke this into
the two questions. So it's a personal blind spot of
animes that we're missing in our library and then shows that we
think are missing from anime in general.
So I'll take the lead on this one First, I'm missing out on a
lot of like classics like I I haven't seen Bebop, haven't seen
Utna, haven't seen I have technically started Legends of
the Galactic Heroes, but there's a lot of like these prime all
time classics that I have not watched yet and everyone but
Bebop will probably consumed at some point for the bit.
I can't watch Bebop but. I will vivo you $7.00 if you
watch Legendary girl Luton add. 4 zeroes without decimal points
and then we can talk, Hey, maybe you'll win the Powerball, who
does? But I think shows that are
missing the blind spot, I think that are missing from anime in
general. I I call these like drama
showcasing specific industries, though with like Oceano Co
blowing up, I think it'd be like a good idea the showcase
different industries. We had stuff like Shiribako that
showcase how like anime is made. We had like space brothers to
see how like astronauts do things and Oceano Co with like
behind the scenes with like idol and acting.
So I would like to see more dramas around specific
industries or businesses or something along those lines.
I think we're getting one next season called trillion game,
which is like it's like a business style anime.
So like I'm really looking forward to like those type of
shows. I think it would be very
successful on our sphere. What's to go next?
OK, I just to keep the pattern, I suppose then.
So my my blind spot is I'm going to call things that that take a
while. So, you know, shows that are
like, I don't know more than two cores.
I'm just like pretty busy and have a hard time like getting
through those just because of the amount of anime I can watch
if I'm trying to keep it with like seasonals for the podcast.
Plus like I watch club shows and stuff.
So if I'm watching anything like ancillary, it's hard for it to
be long. So you know, there are a lot of
things like that that I would like to get through, you know,
like some more Gundams there. There's a few things like, but
you know, it's just anything that gets longer than, you know,
like Kurt Kepper Sakura is one of them that I would like to
watch anything like that, even like, because like I haven't
watched a lot of like the the big three sort of things, but
like there isn't a world where I watch those just because of how
many episodes there are. And, and so if I could fill some
gaps in that, you know, that would be great.
Like I think I've only ever watched one show that's more
than 100 episodes. I don't know how common that is,
but I know plenty of people who have watched a lot of jokes that
are that long. So you know for me that that's
sort of an area that I need to to get on for a spot in anime
that I think it could use more of.
I'm going to say like specifically murder mysteries.
We have a few. We have like Odd Taxi and stuff,
but I, I like, I want like Knives Out, Murder on the Orient
Express type of murder mystery and an anime, you know, you
have, you know, like a whodunit. You try to figure it out.
The whole community could get in talking about like theories and
everything. I think that would be like fun.
I know there are some manga. You want to ask for a lost in
space. Is that a murder?
Mystery. OK fine then yes I want Astra
longest. What I want exists, so I'm going
to switch my. That's the portal version of it.
I'm going to switch my blind spot to Astra lost in space.
Yeah, all right. And I'd say, I guess for my
blind spot, I feel like I've watched a a good like, I guess a
lot of different shows from from different genres, So some very
big specific ones. End of Evangelion.
I'm still just I keep putting it off.
It's I know I will watch it and then I'll get to it eventually.
And then PKI mentioned it as well.
Watch of the galactic heroes. I really do want to watch that's
I think that one would give me a lot of insight into a lot of the
modern anime. A lot of modern, I guess
technically not Gundam, but like Gundam slash Mecca slash space
battle warfare, whatever. I think that that's AI mean that
that's just like a must watch, it feels like.
And so I just got to watch it right.
As for blind spots, I guess specifically in the sports
category, then I would it feels like there there's just some big
sports that they haven't done yet.
Good example would be hockey. Pretty popular in Japan to not
have a anime done for it yet as well.
Obviously it's not nearly as popular as it is here in the
United States or in Canada or in Europe, but like it's it's a
growing game over there. Same with lacrosse as well.
One of the biggest growing sports in the world.
I'm surprised to not see and it seems like it would fit.
Both of those sports are so high contact and physical.
It would fit the anime style pretty well.
And then lastly, like golf, actual golf, not girls playing
golf or cute girls playing golf. Sorry, caught myself.
You know, like like the birdie wing, Ceriro utility, like Oh my
God, they're cute girls. Like like I think a really,
there's a lot of drama that could be done around that in the
sports sports world, especially the professional circuit, how
difficult it is. These guys are travelling so
many thousands of miles every week playing for their
livelihoods and etcetera. I think that would be a really
cool anime to see or or something that anime could do a
really good job with I think. So yeah, hopefully.
One day we get dogs red animated, the guy who did golden
comboy and get an ice hockey anime because that's.
Definitely so. Mindless and like the second
fastest growing sport in Japan is rugby and like the two rugby
enemies we have are. Ass.
It's like a really good rugby anime would be sick too.
OK, moving on to our first non anime question.
This comes from Cosette and I'm going to start with Pat Pat, if
you saw your girlfriend at a convention, the the question is
how would you pick up a Batty at an anime convention?
But since you guys are both in relationships, I'm going to ask
you, Pat, how you would pick up your girlfriend and Miles how
you would pick up your wife and and make conventions.
So I have to go. First you have to go first.
Yeah. If you saw your girlfriend and
you were single, how would you say what's up?
Knowing her I would say hey are you lost because she would not
be in an anime convention? But I don't know, I guess I
would just talk to her about spy family or?
Something else along those lines that, you know, one of the more
easier to get into shows that I've started to get her to watch
with me and, you know, hit her with the, you know, and it's
great audio content. I know I I don't know how to
answer this. I was picking up women.
What? What the hell?
Why? Why do you think about an anime
podcast, for Christ's sake? Maybe this will inspire somebody
to not do something at an anime convention.
OK, for for the general advice on to how to pick up someone at
an anime convention, don't force a conversation, let it happen
naturally. If they start talking to you or
you make eye contact and you can just start talking, be normal
about it. Normal people are not normal at
anime conventions. So you will stand out in a good
way to whoever you're talking to, in my opinion.
So not yeah, I guess I can't say that it's ever worked for me,
but I never really tried it either.
But I think that that would be the best way to to to pick up a
Batty at an anime convention, Miles.
I'll follow this question, please.
Yeah. Yeah, so my wife and I met at a
Halloween party, right? So she was dressed as Kimberly,
the pink Power Ranger, and I was dressed as an evil Bunny.
It's a long story. Anyways, then a couple more
Halloween parties happened. And so this is like this, what
you do. So you go to it.
And this is not real advice, by the way.
You go to anime conventions, you go to the circuit, you see the
regulars, right? You scope them out and then you
hit him. You're like third convention
with like a hey, Kimberly, even though you know that's not her
name because you remember her costume, right?
And she's like, oh, were you that evil Bunny?
And I'm like, I sure was. But now I'm dressed as Maverick
from Top Gun. Isn't that a much cooler
costume? And then you start to talk and
then she's like, oh, I was in England, like doing something
with fossils or whatever. This is a real story.
And so then I go, oh, are you into fossils?
Because I was going to name drop my dad, who's a PhD in geology,
who does like a bunch of stuff with fossils or something like
that. And then, yeah, yeah, for sure.
And then your friend comes up and goes, did you just say you
were into fossils? You just asked that as a pick up
line and laughs at you. And then three years later, you
get married. That's how you pick up a baddie
at an anime convention. OK, I'll write this out.
Talk about rocks. All right?
Yeah, talk. About rocks, Bochy the Rock I
guess might be helpful at an anime.
Convention. My answer.
So I think you've mentioned this a little bit.
So a convention is multiple days.
So it's not. Yeah, there it is.
It's not a Sprint, it's a marathon.
You want to plant the seed on day one, but you want to take
action on day 2. Day three is Sunday and you're
hungover. Don't do anything on Sunday.
So the the key is to sit like mile said pick up on who's
there. Also with Pat let it happen
naturally. For me.
This is this is actual advice. Talk about shojo stuff like it
legit works. Talk about Fruits Basket.
Like girls love fruits baskets just like they love it.
And if you know anything about it, they will talk to you,
whether it's just making a friend.
It doesn't always have to be something more than that or
whatever comes after that. Yeah, talk about fruits basket.
That's my legit advice to the people.
Don't mention you have an anime podcast.
That's a that's a don't do that. Also, real advice smell good.
Like legit where deodorant. But like, yeah, I know it's
crazy. Just be a normal person, right?
Like again, it's like just be you will stand out being normal
in a anime convention for sure. So many abnormal people there in
in the, I guess the least derogatory way I could put that,
but you know, you know what I mean.
Yeah, but like. But like hygiene, but not just
not not just like deodorant, but like iron your shirt, like
little things like that get your nose where where like Jordans
like don't wear like plain black new balances or something.
Sorry, it's true. Little things like that, it will
make you from an anime 6 to an anime 8 and that's how you pick
up baddies and convention. What it OK?
What if you're in a convention in LA and you're an anime 8 but
an LA 4? Well, yeah.
Are you in the con? Like, yeah, that's where you,
that's where you plant the seeds in the convention.
In the convention. Yes, outside the convention, I
hate to tell you, you got no chance.
But inside the convention, there's there's a glimmer of
hope. I.
I would also love to hear a female side of how to pick
what's the what's the male version of a baddie?
A baddiek. A hunk, probably.
Yeah, how do you pick up hunks at a anime convention?
I'd love to hear the other side of this.
I. Smile.
Everything about this. Why it's a?
Why I just? Do I just do?
I just feel like I don't know. We don't need to get into it.
I just, you know, conventions are hard enough for women
anyway. True, they're getting better.
I I guess like I guess from the ones that I've gone to are
pretty good, but no, for sure they're horror stories.
I definitely yeah, don't be weird.
Watch shojo and talk about it and smell nice.
That that that's how you pick up baddies at a convention.
And then if you got a vibe, you got a vibe.
If you don't have a vibe, let it go.
Do. You need a deeper shojo pool
than fruits baskets. Or can you?
How far would you say you get off of on just having fruits
baskets in your back? Pocket man, I don't want to say
lie to the girl, but you could say that you watch a lot of show
Joe and then just mention Fruits Basket but.
It sort of sounds like you're saying to to lie to this well.
OK, this will give me a trouble. Everybody, it's a game.
You just play. You're playing a game to start
out with, but. So what you have to do is if you
lie you then before you call them or anything after the con
watch a bunch of shows. There we go, lie to start out
with but then retract that lie and make it a truth and then
there it is. Yep and maybe you get more
versatile like anime knowledge and stuff and who knows.
What you should do 100% is, and I think we'll all agree to this,
is change who you are and what your interests are to make
someone. Like you, yes.
That's the everybody does it like, like acting like we don't
all do it is silly. And that's the moral of Fruits
Basket. Yes, thank you.
You watched it, that's why. Toru Honda changed so much as a
human, yes. She lies the all three seasons.
And she constantly. Lies.
She was a pathological liar. It was.
It was like, I care about you guys.
As you can tell, I watch Fruits Basket.
Yeah. No, just be, just be nice and
friendly and whatever. And who knows if if somebody's
interested in you, you'll know. And if you don't, if you can't
tell, then I'm sorry you're you're bowed, but.
You're you're also going to strike out more times than you
succeed. Like there's that's OK, and
that's OK. I'd like, I don't know, right,
like and be willing to accept that you struck out right like
that. Like don't be if they if the
doesn't pick up right away, let it go.
But like Pete said earlier, like, like do not follow.
Do not talk. Do not keep pestering them.
Let it go. Like be just like you will know
if they're interested. Let it go if they're not.
Also picking up a baddies, you can pick up a baddie who's just
a friend like you don't. It doesn't having baddies as
friends, they can introduce you to their other baddie friends
and it's a win win for everybody.
So. I hate all of this.
Me too I me too I It was a fun question though, thank you.
Thank you, Cosa. Cosa.
That was, that was. She wanted to know, she wanted
to know. It's not on.
We answered truthfully. Moving on to the next question.
Let's get back into actual anime.
What non Japanese story would you like to see made into in
anime? Miles, you want to start?
Store. I almost feel like for whatever
reason, I have an answer to this question already prepared.
Like I might have said already, yeah so I am.
I have like 2 answers for this one.
I am contractually obligated to say that there is a web novel
called Worm by JC Wildbo McRae. Go and consume it in some
fashion. It's not exactly a realistic
option here because it's very long and it's it's not like a
property that has any money behind it or anything.
You know, it would have to be some eccentric billionaire as a
passion project getting this done for I guess like a more
realistic answer. I would like there is a web tune
called Nevermore, which is sort of a there's these like people
who have died that are going through some sort of trial sort
of scenarios in the afterlife. It's sort of like a magical
school scenario. It's heavily themed around Edgar
Allan Poe literature, as you can tell by like the name Nevermore.
There's Lenore and Annabelle Lee or the two leads.
So, you know, sort of has that going for it sort of has like a
late 1800s gas lamp era vibe to it, which I, I really dig and
just sort of a gothic horror vibe, which I, I also like.
And you know, we've seen web tunes and stuff get done before.
So something like that would be good.
I would. I would like that a lot.
All right, how about you, Pat? Yeah, so first the most obvious
1 Ruby, because it's never been done before, totally hasn't
already had an anime made for it.
Yeah, that I think Yeah, Boo. Yeah.
Now that one, I, I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it was not
what I wanted it to be at all. Pretty good for Ruby, I guess,
because that's what usually is. But I guess a more real answer
would be I I feel like there aren't a lot of Greek myths or
any of like, I guess Mediterranean mythology in
general that it that has been used by anime.
Like obviously they had that boarding school Juliet.
I guess that's a sequitur, I guess.
But you know, like they did that where they use the Romeo and
Juliet or they use like a classic story from the from
Europe as a baseline, but then they never really went anywhere
with it. So I, I guess a good example
would be like Orpheus and you're ready to see, I think would be a
really fun story to see done in an anime.
Gilgamesh and actually Gilgamesh, excuse me, not just
the fate version or Babylonia in general.
There's a lot of really cool stories and mythos are there
that I think would be really fun to see in anime almost.
I I guess what's that? What's a gate?
Is it gate? Is that the the anime that takes
a bunch of random warriors from like different times and puts
them against each other or whatever That's.
Ragnarok. Something, oh reckon of Ragnarok
that's like a that's like an arena battle type of show.
Yeah, but it does like like Adam versus Zeus, you know, like Adam
from Christian mythology or whatever.
But but yeah, so I guess something like rather than that,
give me something that actually just follows the story or is
like a historical fiction retelling of of those sorts of
myths. I think would be really fun
because it feels like there's not many of them other than just
being name dropped and then or or inspired to be like to be
then turned into an anime girl like poor King Arthur, you know?
I must say it was better that way.
I won't like, sorry, I don't know, King Arthur a great
example too, and Lancelot and like that, that the whole
Arthurian mythology is so, so deep with stories and what like,
how cool would it be to see that animated in an anime style with,
I don't know, any sort of flair that they could provide as well.
I think that'd be a. Lot of fun.
Gotcha. You are like a like a Vinland
Saga style where it's like it's more serious and actual telling
of the story rather than something like 7 Deadly Sins
which uses like Lancelot but he's an 11 year old boy or
something like that. Yeah, exactly.
That's exactly right. Yeah, Vinland Saga is a great
example or a comparison, I guess.
Yeah, that, that that's something like that with actual
Greek myths or Babylonia. Anything would be, really.
Fun. All right, I'm picking up what
you're putting down. For me.
My answer has been this since I've seen the movies and got
into anime, and I think it already would work.
We have shows kind of similar to this, but I think adapting into
a series would be really easy, and that's a Fast and the
Furious. I think you can just make like a
super shonen version of Fast and the Furious and it would be you
got Initial D, you got licorice recoil.
Like you take those elements and put it into like a Fast and the
furious franchise for anime. That's a good work, really
great. And anime already is just wild
and crazy and how the story is going in Fast and the Furious.
You could just like it makes sense in anime.
Like to me, Fast and Furious is an anime.
It just happens to be live action.
So that would definitely be my pick.
That was from Preston by the way, So shout out to Preston for
that question. Our next question coming from
Tone Dog. This is a 2 parter.
What is the most disappointing anime you've seen in the
following category? One, you personally were hyped
to see and then two, what the community hyped up.
So we're also do like our positives on this as well.
So for me recently there's a few shows last season, I think it
was our two seasons ago, Sasaki and Peeps was a show that I
really like the first season and it fell off so hard.
It was insane how hard it is. Other examples would be like
also a wondering priority was I was so disappointed by how that
show ended and the promise Neverland season 2.
I'm a huge slice of life guy. So there's one called Let's make
a mug that I thought was going to be like laid back camp or
like DIY. And it was a show about like
losing your mom and I was like what the what is going on?
And the big one like high budget high studio was a talked OP
destiny. That one had like 2 mega Corp
producers with it or companies animating it and it was just
straight ass. But a show that I was super
hyped to see that lived up to its expectations was free run.
Like it knocked it out of the park.
I read the manga and I think it was better than the manga.
It's my #3 anime of all time for the community that hyped up.
So shows that like I haven't seen the community was really
hyped up for first it was kill a kill did not like kill a kill at
all. The community is very high on it
and I I think it like looks beautiful, but I don't really
like the show at all. I think an easy answer would be
like attack on Titan as well. Just I mean that was like at one
point it crashed Crunchyroll. It was like the number one anime
of all time. I think one of the episodes is
like the highest rate on IMDb and I just couldn't get into it.
And also Bleach, I don't understand why this is in the
big three. Like I legit the first arc of
Bleach is dog water. I really.
And I also couldn't think of one that was like the community
hyped up. And I was like, yeah, this is
it. So I don't have an answer for
that one. Miles, how about you go next?
Yeah. So I guess like a show that, you
know, I was looking forward to that, you know, the community
had really hyped up that ended up disappointing me not to, you
know, undig some graves here, but Violet ever garden was
pretty disappointed to me. While I ultimately enjoyed the
show, I feel like everyone in the world besides me sort of has
it like, nailed into that like masterpiece.
Yeah, who could that be? Sort of think both of you and.
Oh, literally tattooed on that. Yeah, you know, and for me, the
show was very pretty and had some good moments, but like,
ultimately, like, rang a little hollow.
Alternatively, a show that I didn't have a lot of.
Like, I don't even remember why I started watching it, to be
perfectly honest, but it's like a pretty big mainstay for me.
And it, this is a very popular show, but I definitely wouldn't
say it's like critically acclaimed by the community or
anything. Like, I love the quintessential
quintuplets. I just, I just think it's good
and it makes me happy. So, you know, that was, yeah.
That's something that I wouldn't necessarily have expected to to
like, but I ended up, you know, enjoying a pretty good amount,
something that, you know, lived up to the hype.
I'll go with the Oceano Co anime.
You know, we're watching season 2 right now and I really, you
know, like I I think it's just a step up from the manga.
Like I think it's sort of even surpasses that hype that it had,
You know, just the way that they do the direction they add a
couple of touches and stuff. You know, there was stuff with
like Aqua fading in and out of dust as he like, talked to his
past self in like one of the more recent episode that I don't
recall from the manga. And like, you know, there's just
like touches to that to sort of like bring to life these manga
panels in a way that is more fitting for like an animated
screen. You know, I think they did like
a really a really good job there.
And then like, I guess like a more recent thing that I guess
people hyped up that I was a hater on, I'm going to say that
I had faith in. I remember watching the episode
with an open mind, and that was a mistake.
Is the 100 girlfriends who really, really, really, really,
really, really like you or whatever?
That show is bad, and I'm going to stick to that until I die.
It's not good. Good answer.
Good. Answer yeah sure I was
personally really hyped to see that disappointed me kind of
made a joke about it with the last question but the Ruby anime
it looked really good saw it at anime Expo the trailers and
things it looked really like it was going to be a lot of fun and
it kind of just fizzled out very quickly it seemed like and and
Japan loves Ruby as well so it was very disappointing to see
like I'd. Like shaft to do it too, right?
Yeah, yeah. And again, it wasn't like awful,
but it was like it was looking like it was going to be like an
8-9 or a 10 something. And like I, I think I have it at
A7 simply out of like spite for the fact that it's Ruby, you
know, like it really was frustrating as a fan, a huge fan
of the series. As for something, and that's
what I was personally had to see As for what the community really
hyped up that I was pretty disappointed in.
I think the best example we got of high school like that was
hyped up so much and it like so, so much that I watched it and I
like the music was good and the character designs were pretty
cool, but it kind of sucked. I don't know.
And then I guess we'll catch some Flack for this one too.
One piece is a good example too. I just man why I?
Said bleach. So.
You said Bleach you you also said Attack on Titan, which I
agree with. I remember liking Bleach when I
watched it on Toonami, but I also didn't know a single
character's name or anything so I guess it wasn't that into it.
And then the other. Sorry, Bleach and his partner
Clorox. Oh yeah, there is bleach.
Yeah, Mr. Clean comes in later. Yeah, yeah.
Scrub and the last, yeah, and then I guess the last one.
Billy May shows up all right. He he sacrifices himself for
Clorox. It's not, it's.
The 1000 Stain Arcade. We're a very serious podcast.
I want that anime, yeah. The the last anime too that the
community really hyped up that I wasn't too hot on was or Mia.
I don't know. I didn't hate it as well but I
just was not like Oh my God this is the best thing since sliced
bread. Like it felt like the community
was As for shows that I was really excited to watch that
that really did deliver. I think I kind of stuck with
like watch club shows for this more specifically, but horror he
and that like really like blew me away.
I couldn't believe that horror. He blew me away.
But I I was really, really hyped about it.
And it's so much so that I watched like all of it with him
within like a month. And then so the last one would
be what you what the community hyped up that also then
delivered. I guess ping pong probably
right, like ping pong the anime like that one, that one.
I not a big sports anime guy. It's ugly as shit and it's
that's not usually good for me either, but I still loved it so,
so much. I think that's a that's a good
one to end on. I guess I had a couple more
disappointments, Akira and like Ghost in the Shell and they're.
Here was a good one, I just didn't get it really.
I same with Ghost in the shell, like both of them, like they're
in the same vein for me where I just I could not connect to it
at all. And like Kanye loves it.
So like, how do I not love it? You know, like it's so it
inspired him so much in his life and I could not follow it at
all. And he's not that much older
than me, you know, like I I or, or whatever, I don't know, like
it was just that one felt for sure.
Of course I'll never write graduation though.
Neither will I, I. Will.
OK, but the the monkey monkeys on the keyboard thing, right?
Or the yeah. We're just going to put a lot of
effort into it. Yeah, so like those ones are
disappointing to me that we're really hyped up by the community
too, like I, I have. Good answers.
I like, I like your guys's answers.
Those are really good. All right, next question.
This one comes from Mike from the Andy Pro Pocket Anime
Protagonist podcast. He asked which anime character
would be your dream guest on an episode of your podcast.
Anyone want to start? Otherwise I have an answer.
OK, I I have a controversial take.
If we need, if we need to fucking edit this out, that
that's. Fine, no, run it.
OK, I want the fucking major on from Pilot Evergarden you.
Want like a Maury Povich episode?
I want to fucking interrogate him about his relationship with
a minor who is his military subordinate.
OK, because there are some conflicting information here
about what happens there and I want to get to the bottom of it
'cause I'm either right or wrong, but I must know.
Jerry I was also thinking like, how did I want the the episode
to be structured? Like, do I want it to be like
like an interview or did I want it to be like Jerry Springer or
Maury Povich for like, you are the father and everyone's like,
oh motherfucker, yeah, got your ass and stuff like that.
And then we can have like a like a, a guest spot in the wall or
something like that. But I didn't go that.
I didn't go that. Round, I want the chance to be
right. This is the most important thing
to me, right? So like you have any character
from a show that we've had debates on what it was, their
motivation, yadda yadda. You know, like Char, I'd love to
get Char on here so we can finally figure out how far in
advance he planned that assassination of his twin guy.
You know, just any of the moments where we've like had a
debate about a character or their motivation, I want them
in. I want the both the sides to
line up. I want us to cross examine this
character and figure it out that that's the main gist of it.
That reminds me of like the the potato gang versus the when we
did like the Sasha versus who's the chick from AOT?
Gabby, what we did what we did that episode, we had like two
sides and then debated that would be a sick ass episode of
like like like what you said, Pat, how about you?
What's your idea? I want a lot Dumber and simpler
answers for me on this one. I would love to talk to the
manager from Zombieland Saga or Spike from Cowboy Bebop and have
Spike just go through his life and talk to us about it.
And that'd be fun. I I would also think the major
would be a fun guest because he would finally tell you that he
never fucking touched Violet. So there you go.
And you. But yeah, other than that, I
don't know. I, I liked your answer a lot
though, when I was like, that's a it would be nice to be finally
be able to settle some debates that we've.
Yeah. It is for the content, you know.
Yeah. That's.
Good, that would be fun. Would you moderate it or would
you want like an anime character to moderate the discussion?
Well, I need I can't moderate it because I'm heavily biased in
all the examples that I came out.
Like if there was like a just like let's say you and Jay had a
fight between someone and we, that's who we got, right?
Let's like, oh, we couldn't quite get the major.
He's a little bit too big. But like someone else we could
get OK, you know, like, you know, Charles too famous.
So we have to get someone else. Like I would be happy to
moderate that, you know, but I don't want to like because I
would ask pointed questions. I would be like when when you
told the 13 year old child soldier that you loved her, what
did you mean? You know, like what did you mean
by what was the Yeah, what was your intent there, you know, and
why did you know? I'd be a Dick about it.
So like we, I would want someone who is, you know, like a who is
a good that's. What I was trying to think like
you know who would be OK, so stay with me because even though
her scale is Aura, but maybe we can like twist it, but it would
be Aura from free Ren and she could have like the her scale
and then that way we could determine who is like the
winning side based off of whatever logic we want to use.
OK, that is almost how those scales work and.
It's almost, Yeah, I'll blow it a little bit on my ass.
Yeah, I know it's pretty close. And then also we could ask her
like, hey, how would we pick you up at an anime convention?
And we can finally get an answer for that to pick up a Patty.
I have the. I have the answer for that.
Oh yeah, Oh my, with the scales. Right.
I would hide it by Ora, yeah. Oh, her name's Ora.
Yeah. Holy fuck, yeah, I just put that
together. Bro, you want you watched Ed
read the story, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Yeah.
All right. Well, that's fine.
We we got there. Who?
Who do you have on buddy? OK, so my answer is a little bit
different because I would want to structure the episode.
I think a lot of people who are into anime at some point would
like to go to Japan. Like that's like a for sure a
dream. And then sort of have like an
episode. OK, don't step on my touchdown.
Call my bro Tony. Shut up.
All right, well, now it's ruined.
But no, but have like an episode devoted around like travel and
food in Japan and I will get Nadeshko from Eurocamp and we
could we could discuss like her travel habits and maybe have Rin
as well and talk about, you know, traveling in Japan and
eating food and what type of things to make and stuff like
that. I think that'd be like a really
fun episode, but I I was also thinking the Maury Povich Lion
and I was also thinking Violet Evergard.
But like you, I'm biased on the other side and I didn't want to
bring it up. But then you brought it up and
now we're fighting. Well, I OK, well, I just want to
like highlight how much I love these answers really quick like
Pete has like the like, oh, I like to travel and like these
slice of life shows. That's like I like the good
energy, like vibes and I have the I will be right no matter
what. It will ruin this.
You are a groomer, admit it. Yeah, this is to Catch a
Predator instead of like an anime podcast.
Miles, did your parents ever tell you that they loved you
when you were 15 years old? I yeah, like, OK, yeah, I sorry.
I get more Yeah, I. Let's go.
We're fighting. Like, yeah, fight, fight, fight,
yeah. Risky question, what if they got
really dark? Next question, murder.
Fuck. Kill.
OK, no, I like rocks more. OK, great answers.
I loved it. Let's move on to something a
little bit more happy. This is a two-part question
coming from Giada from the Shoujo Sunday podcast.
What is your guys's gateway anime that made you want to
watch more? Plus your favorite dessert?
Pat, I'm going to start with you.
OK, so that's what the secret part of the.
Question. That's the secret part of the
question that I didn't tell you. OK, I like that that's easier
than the first one in a good way though.
I'm still just struggle with it. I'm stalling right now because I
can't think of an answer. I guess I'll start with my
gateway anime. Sword Art Online definitely was
one of the first anime I watched knowing it was an anime or or
like intentionally because it was an anime.
I guess. Like I watched Naruto growing up
and I'd have to Nami on eventually like random times and
and stuff like that. But sort of online really got me
watching it in high school. And then the fault I I kind of
cheated with this answer, but the fall 2018 season in general.
That's a good answer. Is what really made me a
seasonal washer because it had Zombieland saga Bunny girl
senpai goblin Slayer SA OS newest season for the first time
in like 4 years and Alice ization Euruduku the world in
colors golden Kamui. A second season of that too like
cuz I'd already watched the first like that season really
got me watching seasonally Great great season and I love that I
know I missed I I missed a few shows as well.
Thank you and then my favorite dessert.
I'm not I really don't have much of a sweet tooth.
So I guess my answer would have actually that olive oil cake I
had like four days ago was really good.
So I'll go with that. Let's go with that.
Although probably ice cream. I know it doesn't sound good,
right? But then when you get it at a
fancy Italian restaurant, it changes your life like I am.
I am blown away by it. No, it's actually probably ice
cream. I like ice cream.
Fudge, fudge eagles. Oh, that's can never go wrong
with those. Let miles go last on this one.
So for me, I think I've seen it a few times on the podcast that
I was sort of when I got into anime, I was sort of in a space
where I was kind of sick of like regular TV shows.
I watched every what everybody else watched.
Like I would was watching like, you know, Game of Thrones and
Sopranos and Breaking Bad and like, I liked all that.
But I was getting like really burnt out and I really couldn't
find something that I wanted to. And then my friend introduced me
to food wars and I was like, what the fuck is this?
I, I was, I've never seen anything like it.
I thought it was like stupid, but like insane at the same time
where I didn't like, I just wanted to keep watching more
because I didn't know what was going to happen next.
And that led me down this stray of watching anime.
And then like, I think I went from like, actually I did.
I know this. I went from Food Wars to Yuri on
Ice, which are two polar opposite shows, but those are
like the two that like really got me into anime.
Yuri on Ice and A Place Further Than the Universe are like the
two that like started the podcast because that's How I Met
old Co host. Adam was through US talking
about Yuri on Ice and that wasn't that.
I mean that was my gateway. And then I started watching like
a 12 episode show a day for like a year and a half or something
like that. It was nuts.
I was mass consuming anime. My favorite dessert is Donuts.
I love Donuts. I can eat Donuts every day for
every meal if they don't have dogs.
Like an actual like restaurant. It's creme brulee.
A good creme brulee where it's like crunchy on the top but like
warm on the on the bottom where it's a little bit like pudding.
Oh girl that shit is good. Miles, what's your answer?
Yeah, so you know, this is an anime I've already mentioned
today, but the anime that really got me in the anime, you know,
the gateway anime would be Devil Man Crybaby.
Yay, What a normal answer. You know, I, I had, I had
watched like a few anime here and there just as part of, you
know, watching popular shows, you know, so like Full Metal
Alchemist Brotherhood, couple of other things.
I can't remember the exact order of things, but I, I saw Devil
May Cry Baby on Netflix and watched it and then I watched it
all in one day. Then it ended and I was like,
holy fuck. And I like called a bunch of
people and I told them about it because like, I just never seen
anything like it. And so, you know, I really think
it illustrates well what the, what the medium can do with its,
you know, with animation, it's not, you know, it, it, it
exaggerates things in a way that only like animation can.
It's a also like, I guess it was the opposite of everything that
I like knew about anime, right? Like, you know, the good guys
lose. It's like very dark.
There was the power of friendship did not work.
Like that whole thing, you know, just sort of hit me because
that's not a theming that you see like a lot like there's not
a lot of media that is dark all the way down without glimmers of
hope. And that I thought was really
cool, you know, so that that had me looking for for more things
like it and getting into the medium.
So that is an insane answer, but I'm glad you found us.
I'm I'm glad you found the medium through Devil Man
Crybaby. You might be the only person
like. That well, you know, through
devil man crybaby and hating on shield hero, right?
Like those are. That's how I found you.
Guys, that's how that's how we got there.
I love it, love it. Look at us, look at us.
Who would have thought not? Me.
Not me. Next question comes from Rifle.
This is a very technical question, a very technical anime
question. What would be your dream team of
directors, animation directors, composers, studio, etcetera,
etcetera that you would want to like essentially create an anime
for you? For me, cheating a little bit,
my director would be Satoshi Cohen.
He's my favorite director of all time.
Rest in peace of the GOAT. Everything he has made I have
thoroughly enjoyed. I don't think he can go wrong.
My animation director. I went with a guy named Shota.
Go show Zono. So if you've seen ranking of
Kings he was the episode director for the Boji verse Bose
fight. He was a key anime director in
Jiu Jitsu Kaisen season 2 and he was also a key animation
director for Chainsaw Man. He reminds me of the guy who
directed like Friedrin and Bochy the Rock.
He's more of like this up and coming guy who is like
everything he's worked on has been like high profile and I
just really like his style of how he animates things.
If you've seen the Boce versus Boji fight, it's animated very
different and I really like that style of animation that he
chose. So for that, my composer for an
OST would be Kevin Pankin. He's he's the GOAT.
He did Apothecary Diaries, made an abyss Tower of God, my happy
marriage. Like he's he's my favorite, like
OS composer for OSTSVASI got to have these four VAS in my anime.
Mamaru Miano, he's my GOAT. He's Okabe from science Gate,
he's the manager from Zombieland saga.
I think he's just absolutely incredible.
Also Hiroshi Kamiya, he's Levi from attack on Titan, he's
Araghi from Monogatari. Huge fan of him.
And my two females would be Harka Tomatsu, she is 02 in
Psyche K and Saika Ohara, she is Lelouch in Sailor Neptune.
Those are my like four favorite VAS.
And then the studio that would make it was be Bad House.
I don't know what anime they would make, but if you get I
feel like you, you're pouring it into like a witch's cauldron.
And yeah, mix it up and eventually something's gonna
come out good. So that's kind of like my dream
team. That's my 92 USA Basketball
dream team anime like team. So the second best USA
Basketball team to ever exist? Technically you're probably
correct, but they're the most they're the most polarizing team
of all time. That's fair.
Yeah, I was just, I guess I'll go next.
I, I don't know as many details as Pete does about the insurance
and outs, so I may keep mine very simple.
I do have a lot of similarities with him as well.
Memorial Miadu I want him along with Seto Asumi and Kaito
Ishikawa who are my and Sakuta's voice actors from Buddy or say
you from Buddy Go Senpai. They've also done Raftalia and
now Fumi and Shield Hero together.
I think that they would be very fun together along with Memorial
Mianu and some sort of ROM com done by Mikodo Shinkai and his
studio with Radwim's and Kevin Pankin on the Ox.
And I'm, I'm sure that that ROM com would have some sort of
fantasy element to it because that's what Shinkai does or some
sort of sci-fi to it. And I think it'd be pretty fun.
I I really don't know where it would go at all, but I think
it'd be a cool story. Love that.
OK. Yeah.
So that that like I know, but sometimes we kick it over,
sometimes we don't. Miles, it's your turn to go, OK?
So I would do, I'm sorry, Masaki Yuasa for director who did yeah
shows Pat was really high on like ping Pong, you know,
because he loves that art style and everything.
He also did Devil May Crybaby. He does like a lot of things I
really like. For an animation director, I
picked a Yumu Watanabe, who it's like a lot of Doraemon stuff,
but then also did Summertime rendering, which I thought had
like really crisp, clean animation and like good fluidity
and did all the supernaturally stuff well, which is a show that
I would put together right. Like I like that, that sort of
thing. I want like a full orchestral
composition here. So I'm going with Takashi.
Oh, Mama, who did the score for witch for Mercury, right.
So you had like the the choir and like the orchestra and
everything. He he does like a lot of live
action stuff. It looks like not a lot of
anime, like the teasing master Tekakis on live action movie
through it that and for the studio.
I think I would want OLM to do it.
I think they're just like kind of my favorite studio.
They're really good. Yeah, they they just put out
good stuff pretty consistently, but maybe I don't know, I would
do science Saru depending on like what I wanted for the vibe
of it. I don't I like don't know any
voice actors, but for the dub I would want because I know
English voice actors. Grey Delilah to play something
she does, like Azula from Avatar the Last Airbender or the
Sorceress from Diablo 3 if you're familiar with such.
So there would be a character for her voice in there somewhere
and that that. You'd want this dub is what
you're saying. Yeah, I I would.
In fact, it would. Only be an English.
It wouldn't. Be an it, it wouldn't be an
anime. Only dub.
I love that. All right, next question.
We got this one coming from Tyler from the Anime D Jens
podcast. What is an anime that you want
to love but you just can't? And how would you fix it if you
could enjoy it? Let's go with Miles.
OK, yeah, I think I don't necessarily know like because I
love being a hater, right. So like once I start hating on
something like I I like doing that.
There are there are some exceptions.
I feel like I've been like browbeating about Bochy enough.
Like, I wish that I liked it more just so I wouldn't have to
deal with all of the the accusations, you know, because I
gave it. You'd never be in the
allegations. Yeah, it would be.
It just means like, you know, I don't like it.
Violet Evergarden might be one where we talked about that.
So I'll talk about a different show, which you would our
audience will also be familiar with if they watched or watched
club episode on this. I'll say Bunny girl senpai,
buddy girl Senpai has like a lot of elements of things that I
like. It has a mystery, supernatural
with like a tie in of like science and everything.
These are all things that I like, really like.
I find the execution to be lacking.
I find the themes to sort of be like veneer, right?
That you don't add depth to it. They're just there for show, in
my opinion. The movie, it actively made me
angry because I did start caring about the characters and then it
laughed at me for doing so and I didn't.
I don't like that. But like it does have like all
the pieces of like an anime I would like and they're just like
assembled and incorrectly. So that's that's what I'll go
with. Right on, I'm gonna let Paco
laughs on this one. I have two answers, one like a
short one wondering priority. I think it just needed more
episodes. I really think that would
literally just solve my issue with that show is that I mean
there what like it got cut like 11 episodes like it has planned
to be A2 core should happen. Like the the director got
hospitalized twice. They just said now we're calling
it here and they did one episode thing and shut it down.
But I think if we just actually did the second core, that would
solve it. Real answer is the show called
Coke Row Connect. It's like a show where they body
swap and sort of have like a murder mystery element involved
with it. And this is half of the first
season. And then the second-half of the
season is like a high school drama and they essentially
forget that they were body swapping in the first half of
the show. And I don't know about you, but
if you were to swap bodies with somebody, you would probably
remember it and it would probably affect your life.
And they essentially act as if that never happened.
So I think a way to fix that show is if the characters, if
you still wanted to make a high school drama, have the effects
of body swapping affect the storyline.
And they, I just thought that the story, like, really dropped
the ball in that aspect, though. That is my answer.
Patrick, you're up. Full name.
Wow. Yeah.
So I went with a little bit of a deeper dive into my repertoire
here with Joran, the Princess, Princess of Snow and Blood, a
show that, like, I think myself and Rifle only are the only
people who watch this show when it first aired, at least in our
community and maybe an anime in general.
It was really beautiful. And the concept is really cool.
Obviously historical fiction set in like a Japanese, I guess,
alternate history. Like, I thought that was really
cool. It's just the final arc undid
any character growth that the main character had and removes
all of her agency that they built up with her.
And so I think giving it a bit more of a budget and also just
rewriting the end of the show would help the show a lot
because it also added its peaks. The animation was stunning, but
then they're at its valleys. It was it was very pissed poor
as well. So I think the show could have
been really good if it just had a little bit more money and I
don't know someone other than the apparently the director
directing it at the final like 3 episodes it because that was one
of the most frustrating ends to a show I've ever seen.
Hell yeah. All right, so we have one
scripted question left, but I actually have a secret question
from me to both of you. Oh.
This is a bonus. Secret bonus secret question for
you guys, what is the perfect length for an anime?
How many episodes? 24.
Oh, that's 20. Let's go with 2020.
Four. So 2 cores, essentially 2. 22
core Yeah I 20/26/24. Yeah, I was going to say like 20
to 28 would be a good answer, but that's cheating because it
encompasses everything. I think that that's a good
blank. I I thought we were going to do
a little joke here, like 03. It's more than enough 6.
Seasons of the movie, duh. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah. What about you, Pete?
What do you think is the perfect?
Thing I, I'm more in like the three to four core range.
I really like, like to me I, I, if I'm like really attached to a
show, I like it more than just two cores.
So like I always look back at like full metal Brotherhood is
specifically it's 4 cores and I thought like it.
It like flowed together perfectly and I got the longer
length that I was looking for in like a show that I loved.
But I I think if I had to pick one, I would say 4 of course.
So somewhere on like 48 episodes.
OK. I think that's fine.
I like my issue is that you're right with full Metal, right?
And there's other shows too that are just like good, but like a
lot of things that I've seen that go on for like 3-4,
whatever. They're driving out.
They drag out at some point maybe they they could back.
Up I'll I'll counter it. I'd rather it drag out then not
get finished like your favorite G witch, which I think would
have benefited. Maybe not like an entire core or
at least at least a few more episodes would have solved it,
But I'd rather it be dragged out.
And you could like give me like a a Harley baseball episode and
and throw it in there and like that'd that'd be fun.
You could fill it. You could fill the gaps in and
still get the content then rather it being cut and missing
out on like a full complete story.
Yeah, I would rather see cause like the way that I view Guh is
that they cut out some substance, but what they did was
make sure that they it all got tied up like because I think
pretty much all the the major questions get answered, but it
just gets done a little rapidly and the amount of
characterization sort of drops off a bit because they're doing
a little quick. But I would always rather have
that than me just being like, you know what?
I really don't like season five of G witch.
You know, like this was my favorite show, but now, you
know, like why are Tico and Brahe in a Gundam?
Like did they run out of ideas? That's a that's a sheep in a
yak. By the way, Pat, that's.
Yeah, that's not what I figured. I'll be honest, that's not what
I figured. But I figured it was like
something like, Oh yeah. Like, what idiot would it?
Why would Tito and Brahe be in a Mecca?
I mean, come on. Yeah.
You know, so like, you know,
that that's sort of that's always like my, my fear is that
like, you know, if, if something ends and it's like, you know
what, that wasn't the best ending ever, but I'm yeah, we
got it and it's good you're done.
But if something continues forever, I always live with this
anxiety that'll be ruined for sure.
And maybe that's just me, but you know, I don't know, like,
and I know this is different between us because we've talked
about how we view potential things happening in Oshino Co
and I've been like, this gives me anxiety and you're like.
Yeah, exactly. Agenda over fax every day.
All right, well, let's move on to our last question.
So we have been doing this podcast.
This is currently year six. Last question, what are some of
your favorite memorable and favorite podcast moments
throughout the years? This is from Cosette.
I have quite a few so I don't know if somebody has less, but
if you want me to start I can go ahead.
I don't mind starting. Go for it, Pat.
Because I'm more, I, I was struggling to come up with like
specific moments. I will say I think it wasn't on
the podcast, but getting you go to Miles's wedding was really
fun. That was a really cool way to do
it. And showing you guys around my
little bit around my neck of the woods as well.
That was really cool way to meet and hang out, especially given
it was post COVID really the first time I got to do anything
like that. So that was really cool anytime
we do anime jeopardy or games, and more specifically from anime
jeopardy, I think one of my I am so proud of Preston Trent and
myself for coming up with having me karaoke the the anime.
O PS That was such a funny bit and let.
Me hit the salt. Board hit it.
That was Oh my God, I still got the full sound bites on my
computer and they make me cry laughing every time I think
about them. Watch Club I think is memorable
every week. I think a lot of our recurring
jokes there and just how much fun it is and the the great
group of people that we have is is really awesome.
I cannot think. I like, I don't think Miles and
I thought when we first started to watch club that it would ever
be what it is today, literally five years later, still going
on. And I watched a lot of shows I
never would have and and I'm just so thankful for it and all
my friends. And lastly, the Twilight and
Chicago Fire recurring jokes are very funny.
They are they are really, really good.
And those are my favorite podcast moments, I suppose.
All right, Miles, how about you? Yeah, first I want to give a
shout out to Pete making a joke about cheeky Mori's not a cutie.
On YouTube short. Because I, I don't know why, but
I just died. It got me, it got me like right
where it needed to, you know, I, I always like, you know, moments
where someone will say something about a show and it'll make me
like think about it in a different way or get like a
different perspective on something.
I also, I think, you know, I think I say this every time we
do seasonal concert together, Pete, I say, you know, I'm just
happy to be here talking anime with you.
So like, you know, that that's another, you know, thing.
I just like it's a it's a place to talk to people.
So like, you know, I like our our seasonal, you know, content
trying to guess what we're going to like and everything I think
is is fun. You know, I did all of it.
Is is good. Pat's jokes about Pat making
good jokes. Yeah, yeah.
And this is, I guess the podcast in general, but like, just like
the the community that we, because we actually have like a
little community and it's pretty cool.
There's a lot of really cool people here, you know, and so
getting to talk to them and then getting more people on for like,
guess, you know, like I got to guest with Cosette who asked
this question. Like she was, you know, we did
an episode together and I loved that.
And so just like getting to meet other people to talk to any sort
of like collaborations we've done with like the Sunday Girls
or any other podcasts always. So now to me, I think my
personal peak of podcasting is on their podcast so.
It was a it was a really good episode.
Go check that out if you wanna see me actually podcasting for
once. Let me see this.
I think it was one of Miles's best episode.
I think it was one of my worst episodes I've ever done.
It have to be on like a platform much bigger than ours.
I should love bad and Miles killed it.
That's, you know, well, you know, that's it is what it is.
But I you know. I That's every podcast episode
that we do, right? No, I've had, I've had really
bad episodes. Miles is wrong all the time.
Don't, don't, don't get gassed here, Pete.
Miles actually has one of my funniest bits, so I'll wait till
he's done. OK.
Yeah, no good. Go ahead.
Just to chime off Miles, one of my favorite bits is Miles goes
like, well, either you're going to like it or you're not going
to like it. It's like he says it all, but
then he'll like sometimes he'll like change the words, but it's
still the same thing like for the the deck show we're talking
about and it's just like, that's the same thing you said last 10
miles I'll. Just add like a slight, slight
qualifier to it. I'll be like, if you like comedy
shows, you'll like this show, but if you don't, you won't.
Yeah. But that's like the thing with
like record, like none of this is like actually, this is
probably like one of our most scripted episodes we've ever
done. Like when you're shooting shoot
off the top of your head, sometimes you get you freeze and
just like, hey, it is what it is boys.
And it's just like, I don't do you think back like 5 minutes?
So you're like, I shouldn't have said that, but it is, it is what
it is. It sometimes it's just how it
is. You mentioned it like my
favorite thing, just like in general, it's sort of like the
community we built. When I started this like six
years ago, I was just looking for an outlet to sort of talk
about anime. And for as much as I love it, I
wasn't like I wasn't expecting it.
And the fact that we have something like this is like
really fun and awesome and something to look forward to.
And we have such a diverse group of people where like we can talk
about a variety of things. It's not just anime.
Like we can shoot the shit about sports or House of the Dragon or
politics or the stock market or socks.
Like it doesn't matter. Like we can talk about whatever
and. In Socks, if you're listening,
we talk about you a lot. Real socks, not the person
Socks. Oh OK sorry sorry I should have
made that clear. It is confusing when somebody in
the discord is literally named Socks.
What's your favorite brand of socks?
Mine are dickies. The smart move for picking up
pain. Pains or something?
Yeah. All black Pumas buy buy the same
pair of socks like every pair of socks be the same.
That way you never have to like look forward in laundry.
They're all the same, so. That's a good one.
Ankles, ankle black Pumas, That's the only socks other than
like dress socks or something like that.
Ankle. No.
I I like. I like.
Calves. I like.
You're a you're a 75 year old man and a 25 year.
Old man's body shout out Cabela's wool socks as.
Well, those are. Fire they especially for us
northerners. They are the best socks you'll
ever wear. I wear.
Sperrys when I go shovel my driveway so.
But also diving back to like community when starting this.
So like memorable moments, the main and the best episode.
That's what started watch club like that.
That's like the focal point. That's where we started.
But like my favorite, maybe my favorite episode, but also watch
club episode of all time is the perfect blue episode.
The fact that like me and Miles talked about the show for two
hours before recording, two hours during recording and then
like an hour after it. Like I would have never gotten
that without this. So like it was that episode to
me is just like incredible, like favorite episodes.
I love the daily life of high school boys episode that we did
where it was a show where we watched it and we're like, how
are we going to make like at least an hour of content for
this? And then?
We. Didn't I think we talked about
the show for about 20 minutes and then we just shot shot the
shit and it was super fun. Like I had a blast recording
that episode, but it was one of those things where like I
thought that we were walking into something really bad, like
this is gonna be like a terrible episode.
And it ended up being one of my favorite episodes that we've
ever done. Personal moments, link click
winning and Uma Moussebe winning.
Big moments for me dominating Link or Uma Moussebe for nine
months. And I think link click for I
don't even know how many months I was five or six.
Just the personal gratification of that winning was was next
level. So I and.
What? What a payoff too?
What a. Flute payoff and.
What a show we all loved and. Yeah, we loved link click.
Oh yeah, OK. So yeah, that's the one I was
talking about. Link.
One of them. One of them was worth it, yeah.
And most recent, I think it's gonna be if we had a Hall of
Fame, I think it would enter the Hall of Fame.
Cat having a stroke during his review of Mob Cycle 100.
An absolute gaunted moment by Cat.
I'm sorry, man, you are never going to live that down.
That was one of the funniest moments I've ever seen.
Just know you for how many years I've known you and see you sort
of having your CPU reboot during a podcast episode.
It was pretty damn funny. So I hope that our jokes that we
poke at you are we know that it's all love, brother, but by
God, that was that was one of the funniest things I've ever
seen in my entire life. Oh man, but that is about it.
Do you have any, anybody have any like final words, anything
that you miss, anything you you thought about from question one
that you wanted to clarify or anything like that before we
head out? Oh yeah, I I actually have
something I've been deleting the questions as so I didn't misread
them anymore Like I randomly skipped ahead.
So Tyler from anime D Jens, what's an anime you want to
love? Just can't so literally like one
before. Oh yeah, what would you?
Do Oh, you didn't? Yeah, So I think, right, you
take away, you know, like you take the main character instead
of one sister, what if he had like two sisters, right.
And then instead of like science, you sort of do like a
mythological sort of ancient history, Japanese sort of thing
with a lot of like word play involved, right.
So you can have like curses that are also like words that
represent the trauma that the character is going through.
Then you associate each of the characters with like an animal
of some sort, right? So you could have like a crab
and a snail. So you want molegatri?
Once. Oh, what a.
Basket. I thought he was doing.
Oh. I was doing, I, I was, yeah, I
was, I was doing monogatery because I, I, I.
Fuck you, I know. Like oh ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
It's Mona GATORI guys, ha ha ha ha ha.
That is actually kind of funny. It was, it was funny.
I didn't expect it like genuinely, it caught me off
guard. So that was funny.
But. Yeah, it's been a while since I
made the jokes, so it was pretty good.
Anyways, Yeah, I guess, you know, we've said it here, but
like everyone in the community, you know, people that join us
on, you know, watch Club, you know, Jay and Kat and people in
the past who have joined us, who maybe you've gotten busy and
don't join us anymore. You know, all of you guys have
made a lasting impression on me and I so greatly appreciate it
so. I forgot to mention also Secret
Santa when I brought up, when I brought up that idea like 2 1/2
years ago or whenever we started it, I didn't expect it to.
I mean, we started with what, like eight of us?
Nine of us doing it. Yeah, yeah, like the first time
and now we're at 25 just for the July Christmas in July edition.
And I know everyone isn't always free or doesn't isn't able to
answer like or or show up to the meetings, but God, if those
aren't like two of the most fun nights of the year.
I, I love it. And it, it's so weird, like so
weird to sit there and think like, Oh yeah, I'm going to
dedicate two nights of the year, the entire night to just sitting
there getting drunk talking about a bunch of shows with a
bunch of people that many of whom I have not met in real
life. Like who would have thought that
you'd do that? And it's one of my favorite
nights of the year. Every year that we do it so or
every time we do it. So I I cannot thank people
enough for being so awesome with Secret Santa and taking the idea
and continuing to grow it. And if you want to join us, you
should you should join the Discord.
We have an awesome community. We keep breaking about it for
some reason. Thanks, Pat.
Yeah. You want to yell at us for
wearing socks and Sperrys when we shovel our driveways?
Come do it here at the. If you can't, I'll do it for
you. Do do we still have the the cool
hyperlink the the hashtag or slash anime podcast?
Oh, we have a Tier 3 boost though, I could do that.
Yeah, so, so by the time this airs, go to Discord dot.
Hey, if you want to utilize a tier 3 discord server, join our
discord. Yeah, a lot of soundboard things
too, if that's all you care about.
We do. We're more of a discord that has
a side podcast. Honestly, it's just like evolved
into that, but it's like, who cares?
It's fun like it's whatever. No, I have a great time.
Yeah, there's people that come. It's like you guys have an anime
pockets. Like why did you join our
discord for what did? You find out about us.
It's funny when it's like, I've never listened to an episode.
Your pockets like that's fine. It's all good.
But yeah, I I want to say thanks.
I know there's a lot of people that gave us multiple questions.
I try to do it so everybody got one question answered.
So if you gave me multiple questions, I think I'm just
going to save it for like another episode.
I feel like we might do this in like, I don't know, 6-8 months
again and maybe we can get some more fun questions and maybe
less animate. Who knows the, the possibilities
are analyzed. But thanks to everybody who like
submitted questions to us. They were really good questions.
I, I had a good time answering these questions.
And yeah, and thanks to Miles and Pat for joining me
throughout the years and hopefully we have at least six
more months together. So here's to us and I want to
say thanks to everybody out there.
If you want to support us, the best way to do so like comment,
subscribe, leave a review on whatever platform you're
watching or listening to us on join the discord, join the
discord join the discord next week for watch club.
We're doing Uma museum, a pretty Derby season 2.
Can't wait for that. I saw just the eruption of
applause after that one, so that was great.
Otherwise, if you're not here for a watch club in two weeks,
we'll be doing something. I'll let you know when that
happens. So I'll say thanks and we will
see you next time. Bye bye, bye bye, bye, bye bye.
Bye bye, bye, bye, bye.