1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:02,100 Hello ladies and gentlemen welcome to anime. 2 00:00:02,100 --> 00:00:04,700 Watch Club a biweekly group discussion and review where the 3 00:00:04,700 --> 00:00:07,000 host of the way. You see anime podcast nominate 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,200 and vote on shows, either we haven't seen or shows the 5 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,700 hopefully to a great discussion on today's episode. 6 00:00:11,700 --> 00:00:14,600 The sadboys of the what you say. Anyway podcast will be 7 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,800 reviewing, the 2021 anime film, summer ghost. 8 00:00:18,900 --> 00:00:22,400 Let's meet today's lost souls due to the themes and messaging 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:24,500 of the show. No joking intro state but we do 10 00:00:24,500 --> 00:00:26,500 have a pretty large cast joining us tonight. 11 00:00:26,700 --> 00:00:29,900 The regulars of j-johnny Pat and miles. 12 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:33,300 And making his bi-yearly appearance has, let's toss it 13 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:34,900 over the path to get into our discussion. 14 00:00:35,900 --> 00:00:36,500 Yeah. Alright. 15 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:40,700 So we're talk about summer ghost today, which is a anime movie 16 00:00:41,100 --> 00:00:45,000 that came out, I believe it. Technically in 2022 in the 17 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,500 summer, we didn't get it here in the States. 18 00:00:47,500 --> 00:00:51,400 Now, was it even 25 or 20 21? It was even older than that. 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:52,700 Wow. Yeah, so we didn't even get, 20 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:59,200 this is the intro video. I usually don't have to listen 21 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:01,700 until you say my name because it's better to listen to the 22 00:01:01,700 --> 00:01:04,500 jokes you know because usually make a joke but not for me, 23 00:01:06,300 --> 00:01:09,200 that's my bad. But yes I was just going to do 24 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,100 the usual stuff that I do but I see you stole my thunder. 25 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:14,800 So this is a really we're off to a great start Pete. 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:23,700 Some are ghosts done in 2022. Yes, that was a joke. 27 00:01:23,700 --> 00:01:36,900 I said, okay, thank you, done done, done by studio flat 28 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:41,800 Studio, which has done almost nothing, you know. 29 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:45,100 Like most of the stuff that it's done is relatively new very 30 00:01:45,100 --> 00:01:47,800 unique art style. I'd say compared to other shows, 31 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,600 as well may not unique but Distinct based on the other 32 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:53,900 projects just done. But yeah, it's a movie that's 33 00:01:53,900 --> 00:01:56,200 only 39 minutes long. So I guess technically it's a 34 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:57,400 well, no, it's labeled in a movie. 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:03,100 It's not knowing a or an OVA. So very basic synopsis would be 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:09,800 Supernatural, themes about life, depression, and anything else 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,500 that coming of age, maybe a little bit as well. 38 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,500 Yeah, let's get into our initial thoughts. 39 00:02:15,500 --> 00:02:17,400 I guess it's hard to do. Yeah. 40 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,800 Thoughts on your on the first? 45 seconds of the movie Mi, 41 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,300 would you think? Yeah, so I don't know. 42 00:02:25,300 --> 00:02:28,200 I'll just get my thoughts on the movie but like, briefly without 43 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,800 getting too in-depth. Right away, do it? 44 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:33,300 Yeah, I enjoyed it. It was a fun movie. 45 00:02:33,500 --> 00:02:36,600 I knew I'd probably like, it based off of like, it's five, 46 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,700 you know. I mean, like, it looks like, 47 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:45,500 like all the PV art is just sort of like art that like my study 48 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:49,400 music mixes have on it or whatever it's a little Well, you 49 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,400 know, so I sort of like the atmosphere of it. 50 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:56,600 I like the whole vibe of it. I was curious how 40 minutes 51 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:58,800 would do. I don't know what everyone's 52 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:00,700 take on. This is like, I don't think it 53 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:02,300 was bad. I enjoyed the movie. 54 00:03:02,300 --> 00:03:04,900 I definitely think it could have used some more time. 55 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,400 I don't think it needed to be like a to core anime or 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,700 anything, but like maybe a normal length movie could have 57 00:03:11,700 --> 00:03:14,300 done it, some more justice. But overall, I would recommend 58 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:18,700 it especially since like I mean, it's really easy to watch you. 59 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:20,100 Do you mean? It's not like a commitment, 60 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:22,700 really at all, I don't know if anyone else listen to the tub, 61 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:27,500 but it was really good. So, yeah, I agree with the the 62 00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:30,700 posters, like, I would put that in my wall, you know, like very 63 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:33,200 easily. It's very pretty, very fly 64 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:34,900 light. Like, if it plays with like 65 00:03:34,900 --> 00:03:38,700 light and how it reflects off of the environment a lot. 66 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:41,500 They all right, Kat. What about you? 67 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:46,100 Overall, I feel like the movie did like really well in my 68 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:52,100 opinion, I liked it pretty well. I'm a mirror miles a little bit. 69 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:56,900 It does feel a little bit. I feel like it could have done a 70 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:00,900 lot better with a lot more time or maybe even like, you know, 20 71 00:04:00,900 --> 00:04:03,900 minutes just to kind of give it a little more, a little bit more 72 00:04:03,900 --> 00:04:08,900 depth. But for what it is I think it's 73 00:04:08,900 --> 00:04:11,400 a I think it's a pretty good movie, I would recommend it. 74 00:04:12,500 --> 00:04:17,200 Mainly due to the fact of the themes that it has behind it and 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:22,000 also the fact that, you know, you can do it around the same 76 00:04:22,100 --> 00:04:25,800 point. Time is like regular YouTube 77 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,500 video or something like that. So yeah. 78 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:29,900 Yeah. It is literally only 39 minutes 79 00:04:29,900 --> 00:04:34,100 and like, two minutes of it is we call it credits. 80 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:39,400 So very easy to pick up and watch in a night or over the 81 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:43,400 course of an entire afternoon if you're me because You're so bad 82 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,500 at time management. All right. 83 00:04:46,300 --> 00:04:47,500 What is your character's name again? 84 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:51,100 Has Beatrice. I'd Beatrice was your what are 85 00:04:51,108 --> 00:04:53,800 your opinions on? Beatrice the golden witch who 86 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:58,400 has lived for over 1,000 years? Wow, yeah, it's like Chris big 87 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:00,500 honorifics. I don't know how valid they are 88 00:05:00,500 --> 00:05:06,800 here, but I wanted to this not super informed, I definitely 89 00:05:06,800 --> 00:05:12,700 voted it because it was a movie, but I will say that At overall, 90 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:18,100 with the week I've been having hit a little harder and then I 91 00:05:18,100 --> 00:05:21,500 think it would have. Otherwise, I will say beautiful. 92 00:05:22,300 --> 00:05:26,400 I love the art, but a lot of those shots were just amazing 93 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,200 and it felt like they were flexing on me. 94 00:05:29,500 --> 00:05:32,000 Like, I felt offended like, well, I'd like, damn, you're so 95 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,500 you're good at this? I get it. 96 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:38,300 I would highly recommend this. It's easily digestible, and 97 00:05:38,500 --> 00:05:42,300 while I do agree, some time could have helped Wasn't much 98 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,900 pre discussion obviously because it was a shorter film but we did 99 00:05:45,900 --> 00:05:48,800 discuss like maybe there was a character to that suffered due 100 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,600 to you know link there or other characters existing and sort of 101 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,000 splitting but otherwise I would say it's it's really good highly 102 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:00,300 recommend although if you're having a tough week be a little 103 00:06:00,300 --> 00:06:06,300 careful because it by the end of it I think you know it's not too 104 00:06:06,300 --> 00:06:09,700 bad but going through it I was a little like fucked and film me 105 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:10,800 some. Yeah. 106 00:06:11,100 --> 00:06:13,600 Yeah. You know, it's it was I cheered 107 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,700 up a little bit the end. Yeah, I think like, I was a 108 00:06:17,700 --> 00:06:19,700 little emotionally involved as well. 109 00:06:19,700 --> 00:06:23,600 So and I had a pretty okay week, you know, not not the worst week 110 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,400 ever. So I think it's very relatable 111 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:29,700 for a lot of people but yeah. Jay how about you think that 112 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:32,900 echoing the sentiments that the other three I've said, before 113 00:06:32,900 --> 00:06:35,800 me, the one of the greatest strengths of this movie is also 114 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:39,700 one of its greatest weaknesses and that's the length of it at, 115 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,700 you know, an easy like 37 minutes. 116 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:44,000 Counting the credits or something like that. 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,700 It is super easy. Just knock this out. 118 00:06:46,900 --> 00:06:53,000 However, because of the what they do manage to fit into the 119 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:58,500 that very tight timeline, it makes you want a little bit more 120 00:06:58,500 --> 00:07:01,500 from it and it makes you kind of wish that they were able to go a 121 00:07:01,508 --> 00:07:05,200 little bit more in depth with some of the characters for sure. 122 00:07:05,300 --> 00:07:11,600 I think for my car to actually needs like ayane and tomoya like 123 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:16,600 we Get a pretty good view into their head space, but it's kind 124 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:20,200 of to the detriment of our other two like supporting characters, 125 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Rio and Ali like Rio less. So than a lie in my opinion 126 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:30,600 though, the art style of this, I really enjoyed that it was like 127 00:07:30,900 --> 00:07:34,700 kind of dull not in a bad way, like muted. 128 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,800 And that was to reflect like the themes of depression and all 129 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,300 that set, like, depression despite being in like a very 130 00:07:41,300 --> 00:07:42,200 vibrant. World. 131 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:44,600 Because if you notice the character models are Woods, 132 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,700 dulled compared to the rest of the world which is very well 133 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:51,200 colored and stuff like that. Yeah. 134 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,500 And I like the character designs in general as well. 135 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:58,100 Like, even like hasta ever garden with our main character, 136 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:04,600 like it was good, I would recommend it. 137 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:09,500 But honestly, I'm going to have to read the novel that expands 138 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:12,500 upon the plot a little bit. We there's a but But yeah, 139 00:08:12,500 --> 00:08:15,700 there's two novels actually there's a spin-off novel and one 140 00:08:15,700 --> 00:08:19,400 that is like an adaptation that expands on it a little bit as 141 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:22,900 well as a manga. So I might check those out and 142 00:08:22,900 --> 00:08:27,100 see if it helps a bit. But yeah, I definitely recommend 143 00:08:27,100 --> 00:08:28,900 it just because of how easy it is to. 144 00:08:28,900 --> 00:08:31,200 It's not a commitment. You know if this was like a 145 00:08:31,207 --> 00:08:33,600 three hour long movie and I had the same complaints I wouldn't 146 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:37,299 be recommending it. Yeah I think the the way that 147 00:08:37,299 --> 00:08:40,600 you say it's a strength and a weakness because like it it does 148 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:42,000 really well with the amount. Time. 149 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:44,900 It has so much so that you're like, damn, I wish I'd had more 150 00:08:44,900 --> 00:08:47,800 time but then it's also like, oh but it's actually kind of 151 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,300 impressive how well they did with. 152 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:52,000 So little time again, at least for two of the characters 153 00:08:52,900 --> 00:08:55,300 especially were in particular. I'd say two of the characters 154 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,500 because I don't think there's a bad like character in the show 155 00:08:59,500 --> 00:09:02,600 real or in the movie at least that it gets at least some 156 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,800 attention is just a matter of how, like whether they get 157 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:08,800 enough is and I definitely agree that there could have been 158 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,300 serviced with more. But yeah Johnny what about you? 159 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,900 Going into this movie. I didn't really expect much 160 00:09:14,900 --> 00:09:18,400 because like, I think like most of us would just saw that 161 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,600 somebody nominated. And it was a movie, so it's like 162 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,800 okay, why not? But, you know, it was a lot 163 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:23,600 better than I thought it would be. 164 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:26,500 I didn't really know what I was going to expect from about 40 165 00:09:26,500 --> 00:09:28,500 minute movie. But you know, I thought the 166 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:31,300 animation looked very nice. The story was short but you 167 00:09:31,300 --> 00:09:33,000 know, it was satisfying at the end of it. 168 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,300 It was very connected. I felt like, at the end of it, 169 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:38,200 like everything that was presented in the show was 170 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,300 resolved. And yeah, I think that like I'm 171 00:09:41,300 --> 00:09:43,300 not going to Nothing much else because I think everything that 172 00:09:43,300 --> 00:09:45,400 I want to say has been said by everyone else, but I would 173 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,700 definitely recommend this, especially given how short it 174 00:09:47,700 --> 00:09:50,400 is. I think it's it has a message. 175 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,300 I think a lot of people these days these are like, listen to 176 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,800 and sort of like understand. So yeah, definitely recommend 177 00:09:57,500 --> 00:10:01,300 you go right people about you. If First Impressions, I'm pretty 178 00:10:01,300 --> 00:10:02,100 sure. I'm the only one to see this 179 00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:03,800 movie but there's a movie called goodbye Don. 180 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,000 Gliese it's done by the person who did a place further than the 181 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,200 universe, which is sort of like a similar Vibe were three 182 00:10:10,400 --> 00:10:11,600 friends. Go on this adventure. 183 00:10:11,700 --> 00:10:14,200 Venture where there's more of like this underlying theme of 184 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:17,200 life in general. And that really resonated with 185 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,300 me was summer, ghost, I like right away from the bat. 186 00:10:21,300 --> 00:10:24,300 I like the group dynamic. I enjoyed the animations. 187 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:28,000 The sound is really good. And I think I might be an in 188 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:31,600 like the minority in this one. I like, I think the length was 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,400 perfect. I think the themes and the 190 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,200 message that they were trying to send was all there in a 191 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:39,100 37-minute movie. I would definitely recommend 192 00:10:39,100 --> 00:10:43,000 this. Like this movie to lot of people 193 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,600 but I do think it should have like a trigger warning about 194 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,600 like suicide. I thought this was pretty deep. 195 00:10:48,900 --> 00:10:52,400 I I watch this movie at the gym and I was almost crying, got the 196 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:57,500 treadmill, some of this stuff hits and I do kind of wish that 197 00:10:57,500 --> 00:10:58,900 someone shows had some of those warnings. 198 00:10:58,900 --> 00:11:01,900 But yeah, I would definitely recommend this to somebody who's 199 00:11:01,900 --> 00:11:04,400 looking for you. No sadboy hours or something 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,100 like that looks. I think this resonates lot of 201 00:11:06,100 --> 00:11:09,400 people That's interesting because I to me that this movie 202 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,700 made me like, happy almost like I like sad, like it, because 203 00:11:12,700 --> 00:11:14,300 it's a heavy topic, but it's like hat. 204 00:11:15,700 --> 00:11:18,200 Like yeah, it? Yes. 205 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:21,100 I like it to me. It's the correct outlook on 206 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:25,400 life, which, of course, a subjective thing but that's why 207 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,900 it's happy to be. Um, I really liked the message 208 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:34,400 of this this movie. I think that it was it gave us 209 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,200 three to four different perspectives, maybe two. 210 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:43,100 Them were Half Baked but really for perspectives on life and why 211 00:11:43,100 --> 00:11:45,500 it's harder and the struggles. You go through sometimes and 212 00:11:45,500 --> 00:11:53,800 like, how, how difficult any of the adversity can seem 213 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:54,900 sometimes. And I really liked that, it 214 00:11:54,900 --> 00:11:59,700 wasn't he didn't shy away from that topic by the end of the 215 00:11:59,700 --> 00:12:02,100 movie either. So, I definitely agree trigger 216 00:12:02,100 --> 00:12:07,100 warning, would've been good for people with anything they'd like 217 00:12:07,100 --> 00:12:09,600 some Side or depression, anything along those lines. 218 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,100 I agree. Definitely, definitely a trigger 219 00:12:11,100 --> 00:12:15,000 warning for anyone like that, but I would definitely recommend 220 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,600 it again because like 40 minutes you'll get it back you know so 221 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,000 what so yeah. I guess that that covers our 222 00:12:22,100 --> 00:12:24,300 spoiler-free section. So yeah, go watch the movie 223 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,100 really easy. Let's talk about it now. 224 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:30,300 So does anyone have an opening discussion point that they like 225 00:12:30,300 --> 00:12:33,600 to start us off with? Sure. 226 00:12:33,700 --> 00:12:38,100 Um, I actually wanted to talk about the, the actual themes 227 00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:40,800 that the director was trying to go with. 228 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:44,000 So the director's name is lounge raw. 229 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:49,700 He's he's done a few things like he was part of the team that 230 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:52,700 created. I want to eat your pancreas and 231 00:12:52,700 --> 00:13:00,400 a few other a few other, well-known anime, but during his 232 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,200 announcement of making this Movie. 233 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,900 Well, the short film, he said that he was going. 234 00:13:07,900 --> 00:13:12,900 He was the reason why he's making the movie was to make a 235 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:19,900 an expression of himself, which which I think is his expression 236 00:13:19,900 --> 00:13:28,500 was just trying to like push out a lot more of a A visual aspect 237 00:13:28,500 --> 00:13:31,400 of what he was going through and how he felt about life. 238 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,700 And I feel like that you like that might have resonated with 239 00:13:34,900 --> 00:13:40,300 everybody here. Yeah, well, I think he's, if you 240 00:13:40,300 --> 00:13:42,700 say, if that's what he said, then he was very similar to 241 00:13:42,700 --> 00:13:47,800 turmoil, right, where he's an artist who is, you know, praised 242 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,700 constantly for how good he is at certain things but can't seem to 243 00:13:53,700 --> 00:13:55,800 Find the motivation or find the drive to do it. 244 00:13:55,800 --> 00:14:00,600 I think that that's definitely a realistic issue that that lots 245 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,200 of artists and lots of people run into with what their jobs 246 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:08,700 and I mean for me I I do pretty well but then I sometimes I just 247 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:10,400 don't want to open my emails. Yeah. 248 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:13,500 Like I do I just do. I don't I lock it all out. 249 00:14:13,500 --> 00:14:16,700 I've got 20 unread emails Sue Eddie, I don't want to worry 250 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:19,400 about it, you know, like it happens. 251 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,400 It happens in different ways and comes in waves for people 252 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:28,100 certain people are Really just more affected by it, caught more 253 00:14:28,100 --> 00:14:30,200 constantly, or at different points in their life. 254 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:33,400 I think that this is I think they chose the right time. 255 00:14:33,500 --> 00:14:35,900 Like they chose three young adults or adolescents. 256 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:39,400 I think that this is the right, the right group of age of people 257 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:44,100 to choose to follow this kind of a story, just because it is a 258 00:14:44,700 --> 00:14:46,300 time where most people go under so much. 259 00:14:46,300 --> 00:14:48,500 Stress of what are they going to do with their life? 260 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:51,800 What are they, what are they? What expectations that I have on 261 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,400 them? Like the Always nagging hoping 262 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,500 down on them. This there's a lot to it. 263 00:14:57,700 --> 00:15:02,100 That I think that I did really well, but also coming out like 264 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:06,700 directly after covid. So that actually, that actually 265 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:12,000 makes it even more of a perfect time just to kind of just to 266 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:15,000 kind of push forward. Yeah. 267 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:19,100 What about you pee? Yeah, I think the themes that he 268 00:15:19,100 --> 00:15:22,500 was going for our something. I think we see a lot in like 269 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:27,500 anime with the parental expectations and bullying seem 270 00:15:27,500 --> 00:15:31,800 to be like the to, I least main focal points of anime when I see 271 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:36,400 when its surrounding like the concept of like suicide and I or 272 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:39,900 just stick depression or like, you know, deeper darker thoughts 273 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,600 and I thought that How he portrayed it. 274 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,600 I think a lot of people could kind of grasp onto a character, 275 00:15:45,900 --> 00:15:50,200 whether it's turmoil with parental expectations, oil with 276 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Her bullying but also like Ryu with like coming to terms with 277 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,700 death I think is I mean I can personally relate to that, where 278 00:16:02,700 --> 00:16:06,500 it's to me like those themes of those three people were just so 279 00:16:06,500 --> 00:16:08,800 well done. If that was the message that he 280 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:10,500 was trying to portray. I think he nailed it. 281 00:16:10,900 --> 00:16:13,800 I think it was just so well done. 282 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:18,300 I loved it. Yeah, and I agree as well. 283 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:25,200 I think a lot of the themes. I mean, just as, you know, 284 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,100 specific as they may seem, because I think sometimes when 285 00:16:28,100 --> 00:16:30,200 it comes to things like this, a lot of people get bogged down in 286 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,200 the details, like tomoya probably being an artist. 287 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:34,500 Some people feel like I'm not creating anything and therefore, 288 00:16:34,500 --> 00:16:36,700 I cannot relate to the things that he's going through. 289 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,200 But I think, you know, we all I don't want to get too fucking 290 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 deep here but like, we all go through like we all have things 291 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,200 that we, you know, cherish and that people May not necessarily 292 00:16:47,700 --> 00:16:51,300 find worth of our time and judges foreign and it's 293 00:16:51,300 --> 00:16:55,100 definitely one of those things that I think should be explored 294 00:16:55,100 --> 00:16:57,900 more in anime. I think the only issue I have 295 00:16:57,900 --> 00:17:01,300 with some of the themes. Maybe not necessarily tomoya and 296 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:04,300 the main to, but I felt like the bullying was a little 297 00:17:04,300 --> 00:17:07,500 underexplored and I don't know how we all feel about that. 298 00:17:07,700 --> 00:17:11,900 I felt like it kind of came up at the very end and I didn't 299 00:17:11,900 --> 00:17:14,700 particularly like the the scene that was used. 300 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:17,099 Show how she handled it. I thought it was a little. 301 00:17:17,900 --> 00:17:20,700 I don't know. My school experience was a 302 00:17:20,708 --> 00:17:24,099 little different than that in terms of what bullying is 303 00:17:24,099 --> 00:17:28,500 especially for something that came out in 2022 or 2021. 304 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:31,500 I thought that was a handle. I don't know what anyone else 305 00:17:31,500 --> 00:17:32,900 is. Thoughts are high bounce on our 306 00:17:32,900 --> 00:17:35,300 real quick. For sure there's one specific 307 00:17:35,300 --> 00:17:38,000 scene where I thought that they handled the bullying really well 308 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:43,400 because we see our we sort of like move off the ledge and her 309 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,500 bull yours looks like. Run over and grab her like don't 310 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:49,300 kill yourself, but then after she, like goes to the nurse's 311 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:52,600 office, there's like a line that says, like maybe she deserves, 312 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,000 like, what we're doing to her and I thought that was such a 313 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:59,700 unique thing about bullying. That's not really often explored 314 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:03,200 in anime or Manga or a lot of times like the bullying is to be 315 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,700 representative of like just evil and they're bullying to add like 316 00:18:06,700 --> 00:18:08,700 a fact. I like this sort of like 317 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:11,500 psychological games that these bullies are playing with each 318 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,300 other. Like you know what, maybe we're 319 00:18:13,300 --> 00:18:15,100 doing a good thing for her. Her. 320 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:18,200 And I thought that's a very underutilized thing in bullying, 321 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:22,500 because I have seen that before in real life were, it's not just 322 00:18:22,500 --> 00:18:25,400 bullying, but I'm not going to go into deeper things but like, 323 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:28,100 you know, like abuse or something like that, where, 324 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:31,400 like, they think that they're doing something right. 325 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,100 And I thought that that one little line to me, really hit me 326 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:37,300 hard. And that's what really stuck out 327 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:38,900 to me in the show are this movie. 328 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,200 Yeah, it would be fair. I did, you know for clarity 329 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,100 sake, I did watch it and finish like probably right before we 330 00:18:46,100 --> 00:18:49,100 started. So some of it's a little out of 331 00:18:49,108 --> 00:18:52,100 my mind. Also watch the dub and doubles 332 00:18:52,100 --> 00:18:55,300 very good by the way, just small note, but yeah, I really did 333 00:18:55,300 --> 00:18:59,700 like the handling of the themes and those details even though I 334 00:18:59,700 --> 00:19:02,400 didn't see them in the bullying but I believe you in there there 335 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,000 but I definitely saw them with the other ones and I think 336 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,500 specifically real and coming to terms with death is just a An 337 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:12,900 interesting thing that I don't see done in anime a lot, a lot 338 00:19:12,900 --> 00:19:16,700 of coming to terms with death ends in avoiding it. 339 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:23,800 And you know I think it's definitely a hard topic to 340 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:27,600 handle because coming to terms with the fact that we're all 341 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:34,400 going to die, one day is a lot and that, you know, it's just 342 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,800 such a such a fundamental thing that you have to cope with as a 343 00:19:37,808 --> 00:19:41,100 person. But it was it was done really 344 00:19:41,100 --> 00:19:45,400 well here and the way Ryu expresses himself and everyone 345 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:48,400 else does. It's like, I like that. 346 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,300 It's not even clear that he does come to terms with death either 347 00:19:51,300 --> 00:19:53,000 like that. Yeah, you know, like, you know, 348 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,500 I always think that I agree with you, that's not shown a lot in 349 00:19:56,500 --> 00:20:01,600 anime, but it's hard to it's hard to because it is really 350 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:04,800 hard to come down. So with that, I haven't, like, I 351 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,400 never, I probably never will write like it sucks. 352 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,900 And I think that I really don't think he did either. 353 00:20:13,900 --> 00:20:17,800 I think he may be accepted that it was going to happen that he 354 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:19,200 had lived. But like, you know, he even said 355 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:23,100 like, oh before I died, my, I was actually, why did I even 356 00:20:23,100 --> 00:20:25,100 live or what was the purpose of my life? 357 00:20:25,100 --> 00:20:28,700 Like, that's, I don't Estill Co. That's almost coping, you know? 358 00:20:28,700 --> 00:20:30,700 Right. Like an and I think that's 359 00:20:30,700 --> 00:20:34,600 really really hard. Yeah, it's sad because I this is 360 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:38,000 serious reason to live Kopi. Oh yeah, come on. 361 00:20:39,700 --> 00:20:41,000 That's kind of what I meant. But yeah. 362 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,800 I like it's scary. Like it's really like and I'm 363 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,600 glad that they, he didn't just survive. 364 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,400 Like you said like in most animals like oh I've come to 365 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:52,400 terms with my death. Well, you don't have to anymore 366 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,000 because you're alive. Yeah, that that happens like in 367 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,900 goddamn every other shown in out there feels like it. 368 00:20:58,908 --> 00:21:01,900 So I really like that and I know Johnny has something to say but 369 00:21:01,900 --> 00:21:07,500 just one last point to two real. I also to the the fully coming 370 00:21:07,500 --> 00:21:09,500 to terms with death thing. I think the fact that That he 371 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:13,000 shows up in the end and it's still around as a summer ghost, 372 00:21:13,100 --> 00:21:14,500 the new summer, ghost or whatever. 373 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:19,400 It also shows that not, you know, it's not fully. 374 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,000 He he clearly hasn't he still around. 375 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,000 He there is still something that is keeping him here and it was 376 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:29,600 you know, that little event and then you see him go and you know 377 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:33,900 that it's not the ending of it isn't clean, you know? 378 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,500 And they make sure to tell you that like it's not going to be a 379 00:21:36,500 --> 00:21:40,600 clean acceptance. And there's going to be doubt 380 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,300 there, but it's about that first step. 381 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:45,800 But Johnny, I know you had something to say we kind of went 382 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:51,600 on, I think that way accepting your death like that's not like, 383 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,300 that's not something that's easy to do. 384 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:57,900 But I think it's like and he's like, I want to like relate this 385 00:21:57,900 --> 00:22:00,600 to like the other characters specifically, what was the 386 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,900 girl's name? Again, was a great Ally Ally. 387 00:22:03,900 --> 00:22:06,300 I don't know why I thought it was right but like Ali is like 388 00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:10,000 it's not like I think that like for a lot of Of people, they're 389 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,100 scared of dying is because they they're still stuff that they 390 00:22:13,100 --> 00:22:15,300 want to do in life, you know, just things that they look 391 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:18,200 forward to just because of the future that they want to do, you 392 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,200 know. It's like maybe it's going to a 393 00:22:20,208 --> 00:22:25,300 specific country or like having kids and like having like having 394 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,000 a family and things like that, but it's like when you're in 395 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,900 that kind of mindset where it's like, you don't see any of that, 396 00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:36,900 you don't see a future in life. Where so many people end up like 397 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,000 in that situation words like either like told my hours like 398 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,300 you feel like your life is meaningless or in the terminal 399 00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:45,200 by kaui where it's like, you just want to end it and think a 400 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,600 lot of that comes from the fact that like and I speak from this 401 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,100 one, like personal experience, a lot of young people. 402 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:57,700 The only thing that matters to them is degrades every single 403 00:22:57,700 --> 00:22:59,900 part of your life. That's all that happened. 404 00:22:59,900 --> 00:23:02,800 Like as a child, everything that you do. 405 00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:07,000 Is based off your grades, like you are giving up your given, 406 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,500 like, a grade like a slap of, like, a slap of steak like grade 407 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:17,900 A Plus like that is, your worth in society is off of your marks. 408 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:21,800 And so what happens is, there are so many people that I like, 409 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,000 I know personally. That's like, that's all that 410 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:29,400 they know or care about in life. They think that, like, it's who, 411 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,400 it's what defines, who they are, it was it, what allows Them to 412 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,800 like do this or that like as someone who is in like, possibly 413 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,600 the best university in my country, people will spend hours 414 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:46,300 upon hours every single day. Studying, it's amazing, you 415 00:23:46,300 --> 00:23:49,300 know, for me like I feel like I'm personally very lucky that 416 00:23:49,300 --> 00:23:53,000 like I'm in a position where even if I don't succeed in 417 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,400 school, I will still have a future, but I think a lot of 418 00:23:56,408 --> 00:23:58,200 people don't feel that way, you know. 419 00:23:58,208 --> 00:24:00,100 Like, for example, I told me I like he's probably been taught 420 00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:04,600 his whole life that like, and I'm not saying this, I'm like a 421 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,500 storytelling point of view but more is of like my experiences 422 00:24:08,500 --> 00:24:10,700 in life. Like, he feels like if he 423 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:15,700 doesn't succeed, he doesn't have a future, it's succeed and get 424 00:24:15,700 --> 00:24:18,700 eggs on everything or its complete failure. 425 00:24:18,900 --> 00:24:22,200 There is no in-between. You either get into the best 426 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,800 university and like, you know, get like a good job or you are, 427 00:24:25,900 --> 00:24:27,700 or you were seen as like a failure. 428 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:30,000 That's why. So many of these people are 429 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,600 like, scared to do is like, I'm sorry, I'm going on but this is 430 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,200 personal To me because like people in my school, if this is 431 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,100 my first semester, we've already had people commit suicide 432 00:24:41,100 --> 00:24:44,500 because of their marks. It is easy to carry. 433 00:24:45,500 --> 00:24:50,600 Our school has a record of like people committing suicide and 434 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,400 these aren't like, I know it's like a lot of people have these 435 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,100 stereotypes of like, oh, like to kiss I'll kill themselves or 436 00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:59,800 because like they're dumb or whatever, like no, these are 437 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:04,000 some of the smartest people, I would say in the world. 438 00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:07,700 It's like computer science engineering. 439 00:25:07,900 --> 00:25:10,100 These feels they have the highest suicide rates and they 440 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:15,200 take so long for you to get in, then you learn so much. 441 00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:20,600 Yeah, you just I'm Marcus Marcus what the what they feel like 442 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,300 defines who they are and like, that is like it's a scary 443 00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:25,700 thought. Honestly likes especially for 444 00:25:25,700 --> 00:25:29,500 somebody in this in this field is like, I feel it. 445 00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:34,000 Like, I feel like I have like gone like a lot better end of it 446 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,400 than other people, but it still affects me and I think that's 447 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 like a very scary part of our society. 448 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,200 Yeah. And in the show, they also 449 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:43,300 acknowledge to that the teacher like, shows him his grades, and 450 00:25:43,300 --> 00:25:45,500 it's like straight A's, but then the mother literally, like, two 451 00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:49,100 seasons later is like This isn't good enough, he's got better. 452 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,800 Yeah, I do better like you're doing okay here but do better 453 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:53,800 elsewhere. So I think that. 454 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,000 Yeah, it's a, it's definitely a very real thing that a lot of 455 00:25:57,008 --> 00:25:58,200 people experience, but P. Go ahead. 456 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,500 I think, I think one of the, like, really good things that 457 00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,500 this movie does, is like a matter of perspective, kind of 458 00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:06,000 like a wood Johnny says, like if you aren't living through it, 459 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:11,100 then like Ryu is going through a much worse time than toe Moya 460 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,400 but us, he has that perspective. Then he'll like, never 461 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,500 experienced it. I thought that's like, This is 462 00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,300 like really well done because I wanted to because I knew Giles 463 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,700 will bring out like a school because I think it's like a very 464 00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:26,200 fun comparison. Where Johnny O? 465 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,300 Take this right? Which I so Johnny has like this, 466 00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:32,100 like, you have it where like you have like, you your parents. 467 00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:34,700 Want you to have good grades. You go to a really good school 468 00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:37,300 and you have like that perspective on you, we're like 469 00:26:37,300 --> 00:26:39,000 me growing up. Both of my parents are high 470 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,400 school dropouts, and just like the complete opposites like day 471 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,100 and night between me and Johnny and have me getting that 472 00:26:46,100 --> 00:26:50,600 perspective through John Ani is kind of like, The story of like 473 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,000 me opening my eyes to like that world because to me, my 474 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,600 expectations were like, my parents didn't want me to 475 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,200 graduate high school and not smoke. 476 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,200 Cigarettes. Like that was my expectations. 477 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:03,300 Like it was so low compared to what John he's going through. 478 00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:06,200 And I think, I think that what that, this this movie does, is 479 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,800 just like, people are going. People are fighting the demons. 480 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,300 Like everybody has his final. Round theme is whether it's the 481 00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:14,700 severity of it is higher than someone else's but just 482 00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,400 portraying that under the screen, just like resonated with 483 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,400 me. It's like, yes, like You'll 484 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,300 never know unless you like discover and talk and do stuff 485 00:27:24,300 --> 00:27:27,700 and like their adventure of finding the body in the 486 00:27:27,700 --> 00:27:31,200 suitcase, which we haven't even touched on yet, like, kind of 487 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,200 brought these perspectives of three people, and I just loved 488 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,900 it. As, let's say who's going to be 489 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:40,700 Ayanna in our group, then it's gonna be the person murdered. 490 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:47,100 It's not the boys. Oh yeah, York City. 491 00:27:51,200 --> 00:28:01,700 Like one of us Northerners because I'm not a teenager. 492 00:28:18,300 --> 00:28:23,000 I hate those kids. I would say no this because I 493 00:28:23,008 --> 00:28:25,100 don't know, I just, I grew up with like, very, very 494 00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:28,500 middle-class like we're like, we didn't have like, rich kids 495 00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:32,200 really we didn't but like, I feel like the expectation. 496 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,600 I got smart kids, well, this Market but like, I guess maybe 497 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,200 it's like an egg kids can't be stopped. 498 00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:39,700 No no. Okay. 499 00:28:39,700 --> 00:28:47,400 It's like I feel like if you're rich, you have higher 500 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,600 expectations in school compared. To someone like me were, like, 501 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,000 my parents growing up were like dirt broke, and they had, like, 502 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,400 no expectations for me. And that's, that's, that's kind 503 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,000 of like what I'm thinking because like my school didn't 504 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:04,300 have like an elite or like a millionaire, I guess probably 505 00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,500 have millionaire to said, no, or something like that, but laughs, 506 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,500 I don't, sorry. Not almost like really other 507 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:13,800 kids, just seem like we just had like the expectations of just 508 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:18,900 like go to school and graduate and maybe go to college like 509 00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,100 Everything else was like everything after like high 510 00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:26,100 school is just like a plus. I feel like, yeah. 511 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:32,200 I feel like for me is that like the schools that I went to 512 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:38,600 everyone, there is like busting their ass off, to get to UNI, 513 00:29:39,300 --> 00:29:42,200 everything was like competitive. It's like you have to do this, 514 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,500 you have to do this, your mark out to be like a certain amount 515 00:29:45,500 --> 00:29:48,500 for you to be able to do this. And that it seemed like it was 516 00:29:48,500 --> 00:29:52,800 just a Instant hustle like and I knew like there were people who 517 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,700 you know like they drink didn't want to do stuff after high 518 00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:59,300 school but like that was the minority like so many people 519 00:29:59,300 --> 00:30:02,000 wanted to go. Like I think the average marks 520 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:07,600 at our school were always like in like the mid 80s or low 90s. 521 00:30:08,100 --> 00:30:12,000 We're like averages on a report card which is like crazy Hive. 522 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,700 You consider like the averages like in the rest of the places, 523 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,100 we'll see. I was like that, like experience 524 00:30:17,100 --> 00:30:19,300 of just like going to high school. 525 00:30:19,700 --> 00:30:24,500 And living your life is kind of like completely unknown to me 526 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,700 because for me, it's like, I gotta do this, I gotta like 527 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:33,800 focus on Surviving and then getting to UNI before, like, you 528 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,600 know, like, you know, like just having a fun and being a kid and 529 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,600 stuff like that. So it's just like, completely 530 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,900 different experiences. I will say the people around me 531 00:30:40,900 --> 00:30:43,100 were like all the same, but now I think about my one Asian 532 00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:46,500 friend is a doctor so that probably doesn't like correlate. 533 00:30:46,500 --> 00:30:53,900 So, I like I like to shoot you mentioned surviving because I 534 00:30:53,908 --> 00:30:55,600 think that's probably the key of it. 535 00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,600 I want to, you know, I had a mixed bag in my school. 536 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,000 So my school was I got into a charter school and if you know 537 00:31:04,008 --> 00:31:07,800 anything about Charter Schools, there's a lottery and there are 538 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:11,400 better than public schools. However, it's a public school 539 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,800 population, essentially, so, you know, a lot of our expectation. 540 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,800 It was a it was a college prep school and however, I think Just 541 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:25,000 because of the culture in, you know, it being a minority and 542 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:30,600 being around, we had a surviving to us was not school. 543 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:35,100 Surviving to us, was how two people pay rent, you know, and I 544 00:31:35,100 --> 00:31:40,900 think, even even at 16 kids were selling drugs to, you know, help 545 00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:44,500 parents with rent and stuff it. And that's just an and that's 546 00:31:44,500 --> 00:31:46,600 not to say they weren't doing their studies because they were 547 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,200 and all most of my friends went to college whether or not they 548 00:31:49,300 --> 00:31:52,800 Opt out two years in or just, you know, I'm one of the few 549 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:56,300 that didn't so survival. I think is really what it's 550 00:31:56,300 --> 00:32:00,100 about, you know. And I think to for some people 551 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:04,200 you know, to tell Mia to the I feel like the movies credit too. 552 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,300 Survive feels draining in the color of the world because it 553 00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,200 feels more of a chore than anything else. 554 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,700 And regardless of whether it was in your school setting or in 555 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,800 Pete setting you know perhaps and in my setting whatever our 556 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,800 version of survival was in that we felt pressured to be in 557 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:25,500 probably you know stole away some of the flavor of Youth that 558 00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,500 we thought we were going to get a lot of media portrays youth, a 559 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:33,100 little more extravagantly than I think it should consider in the 560 00:32:33,100 --> 00:32:39,000 reality of the situation. And I think that, you know, the 561 00:32:40,100 --> 00:32:42,400 when you're in school and when you're under expectations, 562 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,700 whether or not you're rich or poor, you know, every family's 563 00:32:45,700 --> 00:32:52,600 different, my family is not, I don't know as I've hung around 564 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,200 you, I've learned that perhaps I am in the gutter a lot longer 565 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,800 than I thought, but it's all a matter of perspective. 566 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,400 You know what I mean? I didn't know that I was so down 567 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,700 until I met y'all and learned about your lives and like how up 568 00:33:02,700 --> 00:33:05,100 it was. So, like being friends. 569 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,200 Ends with Miles. I was like what you had to what 570 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,800 during high school. He has. 571 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:16,400 Don't worry buddy. Yeah, it's like live bait miles 572 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,400 that I sent you like. Yeah. 573 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:21,100 It's kind of like if you went to college and then yeah, if you 574 00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:23,100 didn't, you expect it to go to trade school. 575 00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,300 And if you didn't do that, then you were kind of like, well, 576 00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:28,400 then encouraged to do something else, at least, you know, like, 577 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,400 versus listening to you guys is it's very, very different. 578 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,500 Yeah, yeah, I wouldn't say it. Yeah. 579 00:33:33,500 --> 00:33:36,900 I think it's a little bit with An economic, but I also just 580 00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:41,300 think it's the, it's the parents to, though, to like, I feel 581 00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:44,100 like, like, like, it's what they and like, what psets like, what 582 00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:46,900 they what they lived and then what they expected. 583 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:49,900 So, like, for me, I have to college educated parents, so 584 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:51,100 they expected me to go to college. 585 00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:53,200 Most likely, unless I went to trade school and, of course, 586 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,200 they were carrying. And I swear, if I wanted to do 587 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,000 trade school or want to do something else, they probably 588 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,000 would have supported me. Well, they would have supported 589 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,800 me, I should say. And but like not every parent is 590 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,200 like that, right? So it's definitely Case by case, 591 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,100 but the, I think, And like with everything money makes a lot of 592 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:11,100 a lot more options and makes it takes away the stress that would 593 00:34:11,100 --> 00:34:14,000 build up elsewhere, where, you know, if we were a poor family, 594 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,699 then my parents might have been like, no, you have to go to 595 00:34:15,699 --> 00:34:20,500 college because you need to break through into the next you 596 00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:24,800 know, like the next year. I next time whenever and that's 597 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,100 why I say to like it's family-to-family. 598 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:31,500 I think also a lot of families at least in around me and 599 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:36,300 growing up and including mine. I think the Experience, 600 00:34:36,300 --> 00:34:39,699 especially when you have parents who have went to college and my 601 00:34:39,699 --> 00:34:42,000 parents are the first people to go to college in there in our 602 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,500 family. So you know, the economics of 603 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:49,500 college and paying for it and stuff like that. 604 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:52,800 And those X-Men the expectations are also like reality checks, 605 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,699 right? Because once you get there you 606 00:34:54,699 --> 00:34:59,800 know when you're not as economically like up and then 607 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,400 your straddled with debt you know it changes a lot of 608 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,100 perspective to and I guess for me I Had I had a plan not that I 609 00:35:08,100 --> 00:35:12,100 followed through, I ended up deciding to make music about 610 00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:17,000 anime, but it got there, somewhere, and even now it's, 611 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,200 it's about even in pursuing my art. 612 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:27,600 I think, and I have to worry about, you know, Can I make 613 00:35:28,100 --> 00:35:30,100 whatever my payment is by the end of the month? 614 00:35:30,100 --> 00:35:34,900 And I think that I relate to told Mia in that sometimes, even 615 00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:39,500 even the freedom to express yourself and be free of these 616 00:35:39,900 --> 00:35:41,700 obligations. The light of the world, we live 617 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:44,800 in, has responsibilities, it's not free. 618 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,100 You know, and there's always going to be that and again, it's 619 00:35:48,100 --> 00:35:53,700 all about perspective because because I grew up around, no one 620 00:35:53,700 --> 00:35:57,400 who was rich. I don't feel like I'm Broke, you 621 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,800 know, I mean I feel pretty good but I'm sure if I grew up 622 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,200 somewhere else, we're more people around. 623 00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,800 Me were financially stable. Like I feel that and you know, 624 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,700 it definitely is a draining thing. 625 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,300 It's it sucks. And it's I do like the idea, you 626 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:14,700 know. And I think to the movies 627 00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,800 credit, the idea of that first step. 628 00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:20,200 You know what I mean is always what's important? 629 00:36:20,300 --> 00:36:22,900 A small First Step Enough. Yeah. 630 00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:26,300 All right. Let's uh yeah. 631 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,700 We've got a little off course. So that's yeah. 632 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:33,000 But guys, but that's okay. It's overly. 633 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 I think it's a relatable thing though to the plot and make. 634 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,600 A lot of people who are listening, would also relate to 635 00:36:39,100 --> 00:36:41,100 at least one of us, because it seems like we have a good 636 00:36:41,300 --> 00:36:45,400 diverse group of people here. But yeah, Jake glad Yeah I just 637 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,700 kind of want to talk about like the plot of the movie a bit, I 638 00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:54,900 thought that I thought it was done pretty well like the the 639 00:36:54,900 --> 00:36:59,100 premise the setup of it like this group of friends going to 640 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,800 you know try out this like Supernatural Airfield that is 641 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,000 still up for some reason. I also like that it's like an 642 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,000 airstrip that they go to when such a big theme of like would 643 00:37:10,300 --> 00:37:13,300 like the freedom that ayane offers them is like the ability 644 00:37:13,300 --> 00:37:15,000 to fly and stuff. Like that. 645 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 I think that's cool. I don't really understand quite 646 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,800 why. That's where she haunts is the 647 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,600 thing I was thinking about to related at all to where she was 648 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,100 buried or what happened to her. So I guess maybe she was just 649 00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:30,700 like, I like this place, I don't know. 650 00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:35,100 But it's weird because like they offer the logic that he can't go 651 00:37:35,100 --> 00:37:39,000 very far from his body. But the same logic doesn't 652 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:43,500 necessarily apply to her being close to her body because she's 653 00:37:43,500 --> 00:37:47,900 mad. Yeah, but like I agree. 654 00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:52,200 I go you're saying I don't know. It's not a super important 655 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:53,600 thing. It's just like a, huh? 656 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,200 Interesting. Well, you need a Runway to take 657 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:57,700 flight. You know, I was, I was gonna 658 00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,400 say, like, it's a, it's also a trip to another plane or 659 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:05,500 something as well. Like there's no. 660 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:10,500 But actually taking flight like you said going elsewhere and 661 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:17,900 it's a I don't know, it's a large open space, you know they 662 00:38:17,900 --> 00:38:20,500 I think that that's definitely what the the purpose was like 663 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,900 Like you said today. I like the plot in general 664 00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:27,600 though. I think it was surprising that 665 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,700 he opened up a suitcase with a dead body in it and was like, 666 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,900 well thank God. I was like, are they about to 667 00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:39,100 show us that? Like they don't ya. 668 00:38:39,100 --> 00:38:42,400 I'm like because you don't need to you really don't know. 669 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,700 Like the post-credits scene was just that the suitcases empty 670 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:48,800 the whole time. You're like oh God thinking 671 00:38:48,800 --> 00:39:22,400 would have like I thought Yes, would assume that a fucking 672 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,500 that the serial killer was, that's a threat, right? 673 00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:29,000 That's it. Well, I'm sure left your fingers 674 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:34,500 there to me. I interpreted that as also kind 675 00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:38,200 of weird but more because it's like you're giving the mother 676 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,900 hope that the daughter is still alive out there and is yeah, 677 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,700 saying oh, I'm alive. Don't worry about me when in 678 00:39:46,707 --> 00:39:50,300 reality, you like the mother needs to move on and and like 679 00:39:50,300 --> 00:39:51,800 me. To know that she needs to show 680 00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,700 up cause like a letter or something that was like or I 681 00:39:55,700 --> 00:39:57,400 don't know my to the police even. 682 00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:58,600 Yes. Yes. 683 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,000 She called the cops to report a dead body. 684 00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:23,100 His fingerprints are all over this. 685 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:29,600 Like, you know, this is sort of the part where I wish it had a 686 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,700 little more time. So that it could because, you 687 00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,700 know, it did. It did though all of this 688 00:40:34,700 --> 00:40:37,300 characterization stuff, which is the most important part of the 689 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:40,000 movie? So I don't I don't mind what 690 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,500 they had to cut but like I mean, they've really rushed the end of 691 00:40:44,508 --> 00:40:46,200 this. I feel like they're really good 692 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:49,400 at what it's like in the necklace and just like cold, 693 00:40:49,700 --> 00:40:53,500 like cold ringing, the doorbell was fucked and also like the 694 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,400 gate was closed and whatnot hap. I don't know, like, did they 695 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,800 just like go to the side Bush and watch or something like 696 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,500 that? And then leave Ur. 697 00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:05,800 Did he like her? Find out whose property? 698 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800 It was like, was the guy arrested? 699 00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,800 Like I don't want to know like the person who owns that 700 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,200 junkyard, like, I've Watch Breaking Bad. 701 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:17,600 He knows when people do crimes over there, I'm so glad we moved 702 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,000 past the themes to the logistics of it. 703 00:41:23,300 --> 00:41:24,700 No, no. Look at me. 704 00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:33,800 Now, we know the themes are sad right into their process for 705 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,300 like how they narrowed it down for where it was at because 706 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,400 like, I thought they were going to be like a, we can if you 707 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,100 heard the train then, There's only like a train, only goes to 708 00:41:44,100 --> 00:41:45,900 this area or something like that. 709 00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:48,300 Like, there would have been a, I wish there was a little bit of 710 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:51,900 more mystery to it, I guess. But I'm just a sucker for that 711 00:41:51,900 --> 00:41:53,800 sort of thing. Like, I like actually, like 712 00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:57,400 solving the mystery and as for them, it just felt like she was 713 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,900 like, I can't find my body even though I've been looking for it 714 00:41:59,908 --> 00:42:03,200 for literally three years now, suddenly having three more 715 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,900 people, even though you guys can't go that far from your body 716 00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:10,200 will expand my field of view or something. 717 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,800 It's like I don't know. It felt very like they knew that 718 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,200 their that it was approaching 35 minutes and they need to wrap it 719 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,200 up because like the way they find, it is literally just a lie 720 00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:23,900 going. I think I found it. 721 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:29,000 And it's like, oh yeah, because it's just a random fucking 722 00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,300 suitcase. That's just floating there, by 723 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:34,800 the way, if everything, if they can see everything underground, 724 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,700 roots, rocks. Like, shouldn't they say 725 00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:39,700 anything? And I don't know, it was buried. 726 00:42:39,700 --> 00:42:44,100 Treasure Pete, in my basement like Like yeah, Granger 727 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:48,200 CinemaSins pettiness for the plot. 728 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,300 It doesn't take away from its super much for me personally but 729 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:53,500 it is one of those things where if you stopping anybody like, 730 00:42:53,500 --> 00:42:56,900 huh, maybe it'll put of explain a few things a little bit better 731 00:42:56,900 --> 00:42:59,100 if it had like 10 or 20 more minutes. 732 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,700 Yeah, I agree. I think that the movie does what 733 00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,800 it's supposed to do. The best the best and it does 734 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,900 what it could do. Well, not great. 735 00:43:08,900 --> 00:43:12,300 But like it doesn't it doesn't need to write. 736 00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:14,900 Like it's stunning, I learned the themes. 737 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600 A lot of it is spent not even on plot stuff. 738 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:22,000 Just on like conversation you know, between our characters and 739 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,500 learning about our characters and like that's what's 740 00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:27,800 important. It honestly, it might have been 741 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,100 better if they didn't bother finding the body, I don't know. 742 00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:34,900 Like I guess that gave him something to like do. 743 00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:39,900 But what I thought was going to happen was that as he got to 744 00:43:39,900 --> 00:43:43,100 know her and like kind of fall for her, he would gain a reason 745 00:43:43,100 --> 00:43:46,600 to live, which would stop him from seeing her because he 746 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:51,300 pulled the gun powder killer because he wasn't like sad 747 00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:55,800 anymore, you know, which is like I guess like another concern 748 00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,700 that I And at the end, they could still see their friend. 749 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,400 But you could only see ghosts, or at least her specifically, if 750 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,700 you were like contemplating suicide. 751 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:07,600 So like, were they still contemplating suicide at the 752 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,300 end? Here's my thing. 753 00:44:10,100 --> 00:44:13,700 Sorry to interrupt, but what is just not right about that. 754 00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:17,300 What if she's just incorrect? Because she says, ghosts are all 755 00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:19,400 alone in this world. It's all she had a ghost. 756 00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:23,800 Since a to tell her about this, literally just her going off of 757 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,600 like what she's experienced in like The three years since she's 758 00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:29,500 died. Like, how many people could she 759 00:44:29,500 --> 00:44:32,500 have possibly talk to, you know, like, I don't know. 760 00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,300 It feels like enough for it to be a folk Legend. 761 00:44:35,300 --> 00:44:38,600 We probably have that much of a reason to believe she's lying, 762 00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,900 but like also, she's not necessarily the most reliable. 763 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,500 Like, she's yeah, she's not like an expert on the matter 764 00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,200 necessarily. I don't think I am. 765 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,600 I definitely, I think, for me at least personally, I took this to 766 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,100 the part where I was like this movie kind of goes along. 767 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,300 With the idea that there is it's not very clean and things. 768 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,800 I think like there are moments of weakness where like even in 769 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,600 the future, you're going to want to hurt, you know, like a given 770 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,000 the future of those thoughts will cross your mind and and 771 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:11,600 painful memories will come back and, and it'll, it'll cause you 772 00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,000 to think those things. And that's kind of how I 773 00:45:13,008 --> 00:45:15,800 interpreted that, especially because I feel like the moments 774 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,900 in which we see ghosts again after a lot of the main plots. 775 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,200 Finished our moments of weakness. 776 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:23,200 Like when he sees the dead body, she comes back, it's like yeah, 777 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,700 that's probably a real painful experience to me, Duke Complex 778 00:45:26,700 --> 00:45:29,200 concept plates and things, especially considering, you felt 779 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,400 some sort of attachment to her and what she represented and 780 00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,800 then your friend is gone and you're back at this airfield 781 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:37,300 like I'm sure the thought crossed your mind and it's not 782 00:45:37,300 --> 00:45:39,900 that you're going to do it. But like it's there, you know, 783 00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:42,900 and it's not and I always I interpreted is that? 784 00:45:42,900 --> 00:45:44,600 But I don't know how y'all felt about it. 785 00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:49,000 Yeah, II think that that's a really good interpretation of it 786 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,600 actually, because, you know, I don't know, it's like any other, 787 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:57,100 like, when it comes to trauma and stuff like that, like, it's 788 00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:01,600 basically impossible to fully get rid of that sort of thing. 789 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,000 It is something that you learn how to deal with it and Rise 790 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000 Above rather than trying to get rid of it entirely for most 791 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:11,600 people. If, if that's something that 792 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,700 works for that has worked out for you, I'm happy for you. 793 00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:16,700 Has not personally worked out for me though. 794 00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:25,300 I definitely think that like, the the The logistics of it, 795 00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:28,600 don't for sure are. Yeah, if yeah. 796 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,500 But I think that's okay, right? It's something that's like based 797 00:46:31,500 --> 00:46:34,300 in like a lot of myth and folklore and like, it doesn't 798 00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:37,300 need to be one of the worst things you can do with 799 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:41,800 Supernatural stuff unless you like really got it down, is 800 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:46,100 explaining all of it. So at least, in my opinion, I 801 00:46:46,100 --> 00:46:48,200 feel like it's nothing supposed to be kind of spooky. 802 00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,400 Let it be kind of spooky, you know, so that everyone could be 803 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,200 a rocky. Let s go. 804 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,700 Yeah, I think so. I think we're all if we're all 805 00:46:58,700 --> 00:47:01,800 set, then. Yeah, let's move on to our final 806 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,600 thoughts. Mi want to start us off? 807 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,700 Yeah, I really supposed to, sorry. 808 00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:08,200 Yep. I enjoyed this movie, I 809 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:12,200 definitely related to the characters in like various ways. 810 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,300 I didn't talk during our sort of like group therapy session, but 811 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:18,900 like, the whole acceptance of death thing was like really hard 812 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:23,500 for me to point in my life. Like, I literally wouldn't leave 813 00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:28,400 the House out of fear of like dying and I had to like go to 814 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:36,100 like a lot of therapy and stuff. So That was doing ft DJ. 815 00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,800 I forgot about that plot point of King JK where he wouldn't 816 00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:44,200 leave the house because he was so afraid of dying, go watch 817 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:47,700 her, Yuri, ah, nice episode for more of my sad backstory. 818 00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:52,800 So but, you know, I thought it was relatable, I liked it. 819 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,600 I really love the vibe and the atmosphere of it and everything. 820 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,400 I do wish it had more time Jay and I sort of went off on like 821 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,900 things that are admittedly. That important for the movie but 822 00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:06,100 I would have loved if they had like fleshed out because that's 823 00:48:06,100 --> 00:48:10,400 the kind of person I am. I need answers and logic and 824 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,800 reason. So overall I think I'm going to 825 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,200 give this an 8 out of 10 but it's a very you know it's it's 826 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,000 enjoyable and it's good. I think it accomplishes what 827 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,200 it's trying to do well and that's what matters. 828 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,000 So that's a very good point. Like accomplishing what it was 829 00:48:27,008 --> 00:48:28,500 trying to do. I think I definitely agree that 830 00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:34,500 it does that Cat. What about you Um, I enjoyed the 831 00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,900 movie. I actually talking about the 832 00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:42,400 movie in like having therapy did help. 833 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:45,400 I didn't talk about it. I didn't talk to her in the 834 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:49,300 third session other mainly because I don't really have 835 00:48:49,300 --> 00:48:56,200 anything to talk about right now, but yeah, the movie itself 836 00:48:56,200 --> 00:49:01,700 was it was definitely touching. and looking into the directors, 837 00:49:01,700 --> 00:49:06,100 like idea of what he wanted to go in, to help the little bit on 838 00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:13,400 how I wanted on how like, and how he envisioned it was gave me 839 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:18,800 a gave me a little bit of a renewed like maybe a little bit 840 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:25,800 of faith in humanity, but Overall, I feel like this show, 841 00:49:25,900 --> 00:49:31,600 really like if you really need something like some kind of 842 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,300 picked me up in my opinion and may not be the same for you, 843 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:37,600 maybe a little bit, little bit of a downer for you. 844 00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:42,700 With that in mind, I would probably say it's a, it's a 845 00:49:42,700 --> 00:49:47,000 strong 8, 8 out of 10. All right, has what about you? 846 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:53,000 Pardon me, of course, the the golden, which by the way, Um, 847 00:49:53,300 --> 00:49:55,800 but no, I really enjoyed this movie. 848 00:49:55,800 --> 00:50:01,600 I think regardless of, you know, as someone who suffers with the 849 00:50:01,700 --> 00:50:04,600 depression it's diagnosed and you know, battles those demons 850 00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,700 every day, I think proper representations of an 851 00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:12,800 explorations of not only what that feels like, but answers, 852 00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:17,300 that feel real and acceptable and not as Fantastical is. 853 00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,500 If you just believe in your friends, it's all gonna be okay. 854 00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:26,400 Like, you know, it's I very much do enjoy the, the messaging and 855 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,000 I felt like it was real enough to wear. 856 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,400 This is an important piece of media that I think a lot of 857 00:50:30,408 --> 00:50:33,100 people should consume. It's very quick. 858 00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:38,600 And I think it again the thing about perspectives and always 859 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:42,500 gaining New Perspectives on these types of topics or is 860 00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:45,400 important. And I think, especially in the 861 00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:49,400 media that I feel or in a medium that I feel at least from my 862 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:53,800 personal experience, doesn't handle the The battles of life 863 00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,500 and what that feels like very well often and sometimes 864 00:50:57,500 --> 00:51:01,800 trivialize has or tries to make things a little too black and 865 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,600 white. This is a very good film. 866 00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:06,300 Also, it looks beautiful. They, again, they Flex their 867 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:11,700 budget and their skills. So I highly recommend, but I do 868 00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:15,500 agree with a lot of the points of maybe a little more 869 00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:21,900 exploration on certain things and perhaps a little longer run 870 00:51:21,900 --> 00:51:23,800 time. I do agree that the message came 871 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:27,700 through though. So for that, strongly strongly. 872 00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:32,000 Strong 8. Sensing a theme here. 873 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,200 All right. Jay. 874 00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:37,400 What about you? So I thought the movie was 875 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,300 pretty good. I enjoyed most of the themes of 876 00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:43,600 it, like I said before, I'm not going to go into huge detail 877 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,200 because I pretty much said my peace during the actual review, 878 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:49,500 but some of the characters could have been better developed 879 00:51:49,700 --> 00:51:53,400 despite the short run time. I think it does do a pretty good 880 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,500 job with the characters that it does develop. 881 00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:59,900 The plot has a few I guess. I would say contrivances that it 882 00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:05,700 to fit the runtime more or less, you know, if you're the type of 883 00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:07,700 person who doesn't mind that sort of thing, then that won't 884 00:52:07,700 --> 00:52:10,100 be a knock for you. It's a little bit of a knock for 885 00:52:10,100 --> 00:52:14,000 me, personally, I did enjoy that. 886 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:17,900 They kind of pulled the rug out from underneath us at the end 887 00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:21,400 with Rio being the ghosts instead of ionic coming back or 888 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,300 something like that. It's so boring. 889 00:52:24,300 --> 00:52:26,900 When the girl comes back at the end and an anime, and it 890 00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:29,400 happens. So often I was literally going 891 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,200 to do the whole point for that, but they didn't do it. 892 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:36,400 So I'm happy about that. But overall, you know, I'm not 893 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,900 quite high on this as other people are. 894 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:42,300 I'm going to give this a 6 out of 10 6 out of 10. 895 00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,800 All right, Johnny, what about you? 896 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:48,500 Yeah. So I think that like, for me, I 897 00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:53,400 think that like we could all agree that like, I am like, The 898 00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,400 closest in terms of like, like level to the main character. 899 00:52:57,700 --> 00:53:00,100 It's, you know, like there's a lot of things that like, I 900 00:53:00,100 --> 00:53:03,000 really love. Now, I did not get all A's, I as 901 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,500 they say a skill issue, so you know, it couldn't couldn't do 902 00:53:07,500 --> 00:53:09,700 it. But, you know, you don't like 903 00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:11,200 him. You know, I also did quite a bit 904 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,900 of Art in my childhood but you know, also skill issue. 905 00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:19,400 So I'm doing this instead. But yeah, it's what it is, you 906 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,000 know, and I, you know about the plot I think it's like This is 907 00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:25,700 gonna be a weird comparison. First was like, I'm going to 908 00:53:25,707 --> 00:53:28,100 compare this to the second avatar movie. 909 00:53:28,100 --> 00:53:33,500 You know, like the plot of both these shows of both these movies 910 00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:35,900 if you think about it makes zero sense. 911 00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:38,500 Like, I don't know if anyone saw the second avatar movie, The 912 00:53:38,500 --> 00:53:41,600 Plot makes about as much sense as James cameras, spending you 913 00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:45,200 like 13 years to make the second movie, it makes no sense but the 914 00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,800 plot isn't the point. You never to it was to look at 915 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,900 the pretty pictures in this. It was to be sad. 916 00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,500 So you know, And you know this, yeah, that's what it does. 917 00:53:54,800 --> 00:54:07,100 And it's pretty much like a lot was like The plot was made to 918 00:54:07,100 --> 00:54:11,500 present the directors like vision of what he wanted to tell 919 00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:15,300 the world like his message. So I think that in that sense, 920 00:54:15,300 --> 00:54:17,800 the plot doesn't need to be anything spectacular. 921 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,700 So like while I do agree with Jay that let you like the plot 922 00:54:21,700 --> 00:54:23,800 is if you really think about it stupid. 923 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:25,800 But you know, it say that purpose. 924 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:44,300 I'm telling my mouth. Existence right now. 925 00:54:50,100 --> 00:54:52,900 Johnny the correct message from the coast 926 00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,500 This was the theming in the messaging and I thought they 927 00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:09,900 portrayed it. Yeah, the plot was silly but I 928 00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,400 think it was to portray a message and I think it did that. 929 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:15,700 I really enjoyed the animations in the music sound. 930 00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:18,100 Everything like that was just, it was just really well done. 931 00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:21,300 It reminded me a lot of you know, if anyone's seen shelter, 932 00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:23,600 the Porter Robinson music video. Yeah. 933 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,600 Yeah. Go off vibes from that and 934 00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:28,900 goodbye Don. Gliese yeah, I really enjoyed 935 00:55:28,900 --> 00:55:34,400 this movie, I'm gonna give it a 990, my grave. 936 00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:36,900 Yeah. All right. 937 00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,100 And yeah I agree with most of the positive things. 938 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,800 They've been said so far about the movie coming into this I was 939 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:48,100 kind of split between like an eight and a nine hour like right 940 00:55:48,100 --> 00:55:53,300 after finishing, but I think everything criticism why is that 941 00:55:53,300 --> 00:55:56,800 has been brought up as been like valid, you know, has been has 942 00:55:56,800 --> 00:56:01,800 been pretty fair Yeah, could have been longer could have been 943 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:03,300 could have gone into more detail. 944 00:56:03,300 --> 00:56:06,100 Like, that's why these characters are, how these guys 945 00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:09,300 became friends, I guess the idea was they all took interest in 946 00:56:09,300 --> 00:56:14,000 the folklore of the ghost or they all wanted to see a ghost 947 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,400 for various reasons. Whatever. 948 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,500 Could have been the reason I really liked the transition 949 00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:23,000 scenes that this this movie did really, really good job. 950 00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,100 It was very like shinkai a square, you know, like if they'd 951 00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:31,700 show the texts on screen or they'd Like, people talk about 952 00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:35,000 little earlier, like, the just minor conversations, that the 953 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,200 characters were having were used as transition scenes to them, 954 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:42,100 then being at another beautiful location or the next step of the 955 00:56:42,100 --> 00:56:44,200 plot. So I thought that was really, 956 00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:48,700 really well done for me. This movie is very solidly 1/8 957 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,700 and I look forward to what the studio director do going 958 00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:55,500 forward. I think they There's a lot of 959 00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:58,900 good I can be done by them but yeah. 960 00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:04,400 So when we total that all up and average it out This is very 961 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,100 impressive by us. Good job, guys. 962 00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:11,200 Who did it for the first time? We gotta know we now we've done 963 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,200 that. Before we've done, we've gotten 964 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,300 to an average score of seven point eight five seven. 965 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,200 So we'll round down to seven point eight five because that is 966 00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:26,500 exactly what Mal has it as home on how you like that come. 967 00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:27,700 Yeah. It's very pretty well. 968 00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:29,300 Yeah. Thanks to you because otherwise 969 00:57:29,300 --> 00:57:35,200 you would have been added like it probably like a 76 or So so 970 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:36,800 yeah, that that's very good by us. 971 00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:38,800 I'm proud of us. We finally agree with Mal. 972 00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:45,400 You just took us watching a really Niche movie that took 973 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,400 forever to come to the United States a whole year since it 974 00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:54,100 came out in 2022. But yeah let's talk about were 975 00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:58,400 nominated for 22 weeks from now is that wraps up our discussion 976 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:05,100 and summer ghost we will be nominating for Or yeah, I'm 977 00:58:05,100 --> 00:58:06,900 doing it again. Aren't we doing it again? 978 00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:10,700 What happened? Where am I smart, girl? 979 00:58:10,700 --> 00:58:14,100 Like, I'm just washed. I'm like, fucking good old. 980 00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,800 Hey, you said it, not me there. Yeah, no. 981 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,600 I am getting old, too. But, uh, you know, miles are my 982 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,000 much younger co-host. Can you? 983 00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:29,000 Please take the call me. Ignore that. 984 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,800 Ignore the gray and the beer. Yeah, so I'm tallying up the 985 00:58:34,808 --> 00:58:37,700 votes now and somewhere I missed a point but luckily it's 986 00:58:37,700 --> 00:58:39,600 completely irrelevant where that point goes. 987 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:44,900 So I will see if it affects legacy points at some point. 988 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,300 But as for now it doesn't, it can't affect who wins. 989 00:58:48,300 --> 00:58:50,900 Because even though there's a tie for first place, one of them 990 00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:58,100 has legacy points and one of them doesn't so We got two shows 991 00:58:58,100 --> 00:59:00,400 that are in second and like two shows that are in first, so 992 00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,600 that's like how I'm gonna, I'm gonna do this. 993 00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:09,300 So we got medaka box and link. Click coming in, second link, 994 00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,900 click cain't, its seventh Legacy polish. 995 00:59:14,900 --> 00:59:22,900 I just want to say like, it's getting up there like it's 996 00:59:22,900 --> 00:59:26,500 becoming inevitable slowly. Press it doesn't get the 997 00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:30,400 satisfaction of like liquid egg. Yes, yeah. 998 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:36,100 And he doesn't have the podcast and so for a tie for first, we 999 00:59:36,107 --> 00:59:38,300 had listened the bluebird and higashi, no Eden. 1000 00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:41,700 But Liz for the in the blue bird has some legacy points. 1001 00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:45,900 We will be watching Liz and the bluebird. 1002 00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,400 So a nice easy movie for us going in to the next episode. 1003 00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:53,700 And unfortunately, we don't get to watch the got to know, Eden 1004 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,400 know it. Mi technically, according to 1005 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:03,300 Mal, it's a romance. Even go for it. 1006 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:32,200 No more, but the manga day was, it was a good ride. 1007 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,800 I like Riverdale. So, yeah. 1008 01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:39,700 There you go. The absolute dumpster fire. 1009 01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:42,000 As that show everyone. Votes for it again. 1010 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,900 But you know. Okay, so let's keep moving 1011 01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:48,100 though. So we know Johnny is nominating. 1012 01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200 Gosh, you know eating again miles. 1013 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,000 What are you nominating? And by the way these are if you 1014 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,600 can put two Together, these are going to be romance nominations 1015 01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:03,900 because this is for the February 13th, episode of the podcasts or 1016 01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:07,400 of Anime Club, so or at least that meeting of. 1017 01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,700 So what are we, what are we watching for potentially 1018 01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:14,600 nominating? So there are ya, God, I'm split 1019 01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,700 between two ones, I'd like to get some, some group advice. 1020 01:01:18,700 --> 01:01:23,200 I was thinking between the first season of Spice and Wolf and or 1021 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:27,800 Bloom into you. Bloomin, oh, I want to watch by 1022 01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,300 some more because I find that bloom in to you already. 1023 01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,800 But bison wolf. Because the discussion we could 1024 01:01:34,800 --> 01:01:39,400 talk about taxes being on God. They come on, we we got it. 1025 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:42,600 We got to talk about Holo don't you don't? 1026 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,500 Don't you not like Spice and Wolf. 1027 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:46,700 It's like manga, but maybe I like the enemy. 1028 01:01:46,700 --> 01:01:54,800 Who knows? Oh, why don't you just I 1029 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,300 couldn't decide. We have a tie from the group, so 1030 01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:03,700 I'll just come on. Hey, Siri flip a coin. 1031 01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:09,100 Okay, I'll do Bloom into you heads, which is, I decided after 1032 01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:13,800 I flipped heads was boom into Spice and Wolf so you're going 1033 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:16,000 to do spy some yeah. Now obviously, if you chose 1034 01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:19,600 Bloom into you go for it. Okay. 1035 01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:20,800 Cat. What about you? 1036 01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,200 So, the reason I did that, That's okay. 1037 01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:29,000 Yeah, there we go. Okay, here we go. 1038 01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:31,500 That works. Let's look at Wolf's. 1039 01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,700 Were you originally gonna do woman 2? 1040 01:02:34,700 --> 01:02:38,500 You know, I was gonna do spy, some wolf, which is why I told 1041 01:02:38,500 --> 01:02:41,000 him to Blooming, okay? That's that's actually pretty 1042 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:43,600 funny than has, what about you? Yeah. 1043 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:46,800 If you see the left and right of me Spider-Man and master chief 1044 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:49,300 are going through it, they had a nice weekend with two other 1045 01:02:49,300 --> 01:02:52,100 members of the Discord and I'm not too. 1046 01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:56,200 One shot out Trent. Hi Trent at Genesis 9 a big 1047 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,700 Smash Bros tournament and I thought you know what better way 1048 01:02:59,700 --> 01:03:01,800 to celebrate. You know such a big event than 1049 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,500 playing bottom tier tamazaki with everyone. 1050 01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:09,200 And let's nominate that. What did you just say, Mom? 1051 01:03:22,900 --> 01:03:26,100 Domenico guys. Yeah, I guess I read you. 1052 01:03:26,100 --> 01:03:29,600 Mineko nominator in kids on the slope by the way, so we can get 1053 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:31,700 this moving along. Yeah, there you go. 1054 01:03:31,700 --> 01:03:33,200 J at work. No worries. 1055 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:34,600 It's on the slope. All right. 1056 01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:37,800 Johnny's nominee. He got with that. 1057 01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:40,600 You already said it Eden. Is it a? 1058 01:03:41,000 --> 01:03:42,400 Oh yeah, that's right. He's doing it again. 1059 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,700 Okay, I thought he was and I was like, oh wait, did he say 1060 01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:46,300 something else? I do my brain doesn't work. 1061 01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:48,600 Pete. What about you about? 1062 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:51,700 Keep the theme of movies going and nominate. 1063 01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:56,000 I It's my highest rated romance movie, I'm gonna dominate Josie. 1064 01:03:56,000 --> 01:04:01,800 The tiger and the fish. Oh, I was eyeing that to fuck. 1065 01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:06,000 That is actually another movie by the same director that we 1066 01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,200 just watched. Movies are so tempting. 1067 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:12,300 Just constantly. It's yeah it's very easy to talk 1068 01:04:12,300 --> 01:04:15,000 about it. Yeah. 1069 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:20,400 And yeah my first day of intermittent fasting. 1070 01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,900 So that's this dude man today. No way I'm going to do a show 1071 01:04:24,900 --> 01:04:26,400 that I think would be really fun to dissect. 1072 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:30,600 It's probably one of my favorite romance has read life would be 1073 01:04:30,600 --> 01:04:35,100 really fun thing to talk about. I would be curious to see what 1074 01:04:35,100 --> 01:04:41,000 miles and without the OVA S4. Now it's one, it's one in like a 1075 01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:43,700 third core, it's like 16 episodes total, including the 1076 01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:47,800 govt aced so this was just one season for me, but it hasn't, 1077 01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:50,300 that's why I. Yeah, there's some OVA to the 1078 01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:53,600 end or whatever that kind of Of tight that kind of tie the story 1079 01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:56,600 together, but you get, it's also pretty complete without the OBS. 1080 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:02,600 I disagree, I highly disagree. I watch it without them. 1081 01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:07,200 So I feel like, well, I think if you watch the that, you would 1082 01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,100 realize how important that they are to. 1083 01:05:09,100 --> 01:05:10,800 I have watched, I'll talk to him. 1084 01:05:11,300 --> 01:05:12,900 Okay. Oh well, you know well I mean 1085 01:05:12,900 --> 01:05:15,700 like I'm saying if we end it there I didn't feel dissatisfied 1086 01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:17,600 by the ending of real or diorite that. 1087 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:18,500 I guess that's what my point was. 1088 01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:21,400 So like, any corresponding about it, if it wins. 1089 01:05:22,100 --> 01:05:25,100 Like if it one and we decided that would be too much, then 1090 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:28,100 that's fine, but it really, I don't know. 1091 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,500 I think it's probably up there and it's like 16 episodes that 1092 01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:35,700 instead of 13, like a normal series would be or 12 to 13. 1093 01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:38,800 So I didn't think it was that big of a deal but yeah. 1094 01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,600 Alright that wraps up watch Club so they should join us. 1095 01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:43,900 Pete. Want you close it out? 1096 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:45,200 Yeah. If you've made this far do you 1097 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:46,800 want support? Especially do so like, comment. 1098 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:49,900 Subscribe, leave a review. Also vote vote for am a year. 1099 01:05:49,900 --> 01:05:52,000 Every vote you get it. I will be donating. 1100 01:05:52,100 --> 01:05:54,700 Being a dollar to a local library for the purchase of new 1101 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,600 manga. So unless you hate kids, he 1102 01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:04,000 should probably vote next week. We will be doing the Sword Art 1103 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:07,200 Online Progressive movie to review and that is our episode. 1104 01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:10,400 So I believe Pat and has will be joining me for that. 1105 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,100 Otherwise if you are here for watch club, we will be seeing 1106 01:06:13,100 --> 01:06:16,200 you in two weeks or Liz in the bluebird. 1107 01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:17,700 Thanks. And we'll see you next time.