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We'll be reviewing the 2026 anime medalist Season 2.
Let's toss over the PAT for a quick synopsis rundown and then
we will be diving into the conversation.
Yeah, All right, well, as as Pete said, we're watching Yowie
on Ice Season 2 aired in winter of 2026, done by Studio Ng, I
believe is how you'd say that source from a manga, genres of
drama, sports, forming arts. And it's a sign and I have
forgot about that. And I think I said the same
exact thing when we did season 1 of Ya Ya, nice that I forgot it
was a sign in. So yeah, let's get right into
it's only 9 episodes compared to the usual 12, so not as much
content to spoil, but spoiler free I guess.
First first impressions Miles, why don't you start us off?
And would you recommend season 2 after we've all watched season 1
at this point? Yeah, so season 1 was one of my
favorite, if not my favorite anime from last year.
I'm a big medalist fan. This season is fine.
That's that's sort of my first impression on it.
I think it's OK. I think it's a pretty big step
down from season 1. I just don't think the
narratives and stuff are as good or they're recycled.
In the same way that that Pete doesn't like it when they use a
song more than once. I don't.
I don't like it when they use a a moral in a sports anime more
than once. You already learned that lesson.
Stop it. Yeah, exactly.
It's I need everything resolved and neat. 24 minute bite sized
manners. Would I recommend it?
Yeah, I guess because like, I'm going to be relatively mean to
this anime compared to well, definitely compared to what I
did for season 1. But I also think compared to
like the general public. But I also think like at the end
of the day, it's 9 episodes. I think they knew they didn't
really have a lot to work with here and they, you know, they
could have made this 6 or 4 episodes or something and it
would have been fine. But, you know, I, I think they,
they cut it reasonably well. And what's coming up is
hopefully going to be, you know, exciting and good, well put
together. So, you know, I, I, in the sense
that it, it gets the story from here to there and it's not a
large investment. I, I would recommend it because
I still have faith in, in medalist as a, as a work.
I think that, you know, not everything is meant to be cut
into little bits for anime, you know, as it's adapted.
And I think that this nine episode sequences, proof of
that. That's my personal take.
Oh, there you go. There we go.
All right, Pete, what about you? I won't be the exact opposite of
Miles because I thought this was AI would say a big step up, but
I thought like just how they presented what they were
presenting in Season 2 was fantastic.
It remind me a lot of when we go into different seasons of like
High Q, for instance, where the interpersonal aspect of the show
is sort of secondary, where is more focused in the first season
and we're actually more focused on the sports elements in this
season. And it's something that I like
because we kind of already got introduced to sort of the setup
of where Inori is going to go in her journey.
So now we get to see the journey.
And with that is the the trials and tribulations, the the
hurdles that she has to jump through or jump over or spin
over. And I think we got a great
introduction to that in this season, especially episodes like
2 where were Expo dump type of episodes normally are pretty
boring. I found it like fascinating
learning more about like what tournament ice skating is like,
how it's structured, how you earn points, how you can earn
more points, how you can lose points, like what's important
about that and really dive into the sports aspect of ice
skating. And so that's what I appreciated
from what season 2 brought to the table.
I would absolutely recommend this.
I thought this was one of the best seasons of sports anime
I've ever seen. I thought it was incredible,
absolutely incredible. This is interesting if hey, if
you guys don't Pat, you need to give your first impressions.
I have an impromptu first discussion point though, based
on what Pete said. OK, OK, well, yeah, let me let
me do those first impressions quick then.
Some of us were very high on the show.
Others were very low or middling on it.
I'm somewhere right in the middle.
So it works perfectly. I'm I'm the I am the Middle
East, the Middle. East.
Yeah, I was mad at them until I watched it, and then I was like,
wow, they were kind of spitting. Were they saying that as I, I'm
Yeah. People be People were saying
that as a. Joke and he gave it A9.
I do apologize to people who were saying that because I I was
mad, but they were right. I love it.
Yeah.
So I'm somewhere in the middle between those two reviews of
very different types. I it's weird.
Like I'm sitting here like I I really am glad I watched it.
I want more, but I also feel like this was a maybe a slight
step down from season 1 and doesn't feel like on its own
would have very much merit. Is the big thing like that.
I don't think that these 9 episodes, if it was our first,
like the first season alone, like say stand alone with that
without anything else added to it, I don't think it would be
that great, which isn't fair, of course, to the show.
But I'm saying that more in the sense of like how to rate this
specific season of it. Like it feels like it should
have been attached to the first season.
I don't understand. I know we kind of conceded this
already to where you can't really control what gets made
into an anime or, or how it gets split up, but hey, I can't
control my rating sometimes either, apparently.
So, you know, I'm. Yeah, we'll talk about that.
No, I can't. It just happens, you know,
sometimes. Sometimes you hit the triple sow
chow and other times you don't. I know that's not how you say
it. By the way, before anyone gets
at me, I'm just a, I'm just a hockey guy at heart having my
fun. Yeah, I don't know.
We'll talk about it more, I think, because that is a pretty
contentious point of ours. But I'm somewhere in the middle
where I, I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
And I look forward to the movie. I believe Pete said before we
started recording is coming as the next segment and I I just
yeah, it felt like it and it abruptly is is how I felt.
But I would still recommend it. If you like medalist, you'll
still enjoy it enough I think to like it and want more.
So yeah, there we go. That's three recommends ish,
sort of we'll say for for medal or sorry.
Yeah, we on ice season 2 miles you would normally do a
synopsis, but I don't really feel like that's necessary with
a second season. We're just kicking things off
right where we left off. So why don't we get right into
our first discussion point? I'm.
Just going to give like a 5 second synopsis.
She's trying to qualify for the All Japan novice tournament so
that she can skate against the crew.
That's that's the goal of the season.
Qualify for that. So my I guess, like my first
discussion topic is, and I'm curious.
I I think Pete and I are on different spectrums of this.
So I want us both to give our our takes and then pad, I want
you, you can fill into we've all we've all played sports before.
If you're watching sports media, you know, an anime, a movie,
whatever it may be, How much do you want the technical aspects
of that sport? Explain to you like the basic
technical, the parts of it, you know, like how the scoring works
for jumps and like things like that.
Because the answer that I have is basically none.
I don't want any. I don't don't take any air time
up with that. Everyone who is participating in
this knows how this works, right?
And it always takes me out when they one way or the other
shoehorn in someone who doesn't know anything about skating or
volleyball or basketball or whatever.
And it's like what happens when you make a layup and then they
explain what layups are and then there's like a 45 second to
two-minute explanation like Wikipedia exists and I will look
it up if I need to know how, how this stuff sort of works.
You know, I, I just, it always takes me out when they, when
they do these like dive explanations on like whatever,
because it just sort of feels like I'm watching a documentary
instead of like a drama for whatever period of of time it is
now. Pete, you like this, obviously.
I really did. Yeah, well, like I mean you like
this like device, right where they they go in on like the
sports stuff, so. Yeah, 'cause it's I'm.
Assuming. It's one of those things where
like they you have to find a way to explain it to the audience.
And I think just the default way of doing that is let's have a
character in the show not understand it so that way we can
explain it to the audience. And why I do think it's like
lazy. I think it's necessary.
And so it's, it's more of how you present that information
rather than just like the setup. And what I liked it with
Medalist is that when they were doing the Expo dump in episode
2, they were using like fun colorful graphs to like showcase
how different like types of moves fall into this category.
And then doing it this way results in this many points.
And it was more structured in a way for me to understand rather
than just somebody telling me it.
They were also showing me it in like graphs and then the
visualizations of like the jumps and the moves that they were
doing. So it's, well, I guess it's,
it's one of these things it's like, are you watching medalist
for the cast or are you watching Medalist as well for the sports
aspects? Because I think if you are
watching this for the sports aspect, it's necessary because
it's a type of sports that I don't think many people
understand the scoring here. Or it's something that it's I
think it's something like basketball where even if you've
never played basketball before, you know, if the ball goes in
the hoop, you get points. Maybe you don't know how many
points or repercussions if you get fouled, that type of thing.
But you know those score points with ice skating.
I don't know if a backflip is worth more than triple salcow or
whatever Pat called it. I don't know if it's is a double
axle spinny thing. More points than you know your
dance routine. Like I don't know that stuff.
So if I'm watching the show and I'm seeing people perform their
moves, I want to know be like, oh, that was a triple axle
that's worth 9 points. That's cool.
Like I know that because if I if they don't tell me that, I don't
know that. Backflips were banned until like
2 years ago by the way. Like I am pretty sure when
medalist was being written. Like June is basically like do a
backflip now. That is an insanely dangerous
thing to do. That context is pretty important
I guess, for that scene. It makes sense because Judah is
insane. Yes.
It it's not allowed in like in competitions as.
It wasn't allowed in competition until 2024.
And and you're scoring too, you know, like even like the the
quad God does it, but it doesn't give him any points.
It's just, it's the same as if he just skated backwards in
real. We're talking real life there.
But yeah, it's a, it's a very interesting.
Thing that's interesting. Yeah, he does.
He literally would. Yeah, it's he he does it because
he wants to. He's he's incredibly based.
I wish he performed. Better at the end of this Boone
of ice skating. Got it.
I like Benson Boone. I like, I like that song.
I, I, I, I have to, I have to admit it's it's fun and I like
the sample because it's a great song.
Olivia Newton John. Anyways, to circle back to
Miles's question, I don't know if this is a fair answer to your
question, but when I know what the sport is, I hate it when
they do exposition dumping. And when I don't know what the
sport is, I love it when they do the exposition dumping.
And and so this is a great example where like, yeah, I know
how to skate. So I'm I'm glad that I think
they did in season 1, but they're not like talking about
the technical intricacies of how you stand on a skate because a
skate blade. Fun little fact, little peek
behind the curtains here for you guys that don't skate, it's not
one blade. It's or it's not and edge it's
it's it's almost like a a tunnel, like a like a like a
tunnel under a hill. The the shape on the bottom of
the blade. If you really zoom in on it,
it's a very cool little little thing that you know, you
wouldn't know by looking at you think that's just like a knife
blade or whatever. So in this case, in this show, I
thought that, like what Pete said, they did a good job with
the exposition in the sense of making it interesting visually
as well as explaining like vocally like, and making the
sport make sense to someone that understands the difficulty of it
but doesn't understand the technical, the literal technical
scoring. So I thought that they did a
good job of it in the show. But yeah, if you're a figure
skater, you're probably sitting there like, well, actually they
were wrong about X, this, this, this, this and that point.
In the same way that I sit there and I watch freaking Blue Lock,
which I don't watch Blue Lock, by the way.
But I hear about Blue Locker. I hear you guys talk about it.
And I'm like, this is the worst. Like, what do you mean?
This is not how soccer is played.
This is not how you play this sport.
That's intentional, and it's like the point of.
True, true, that is the point of blue log.
OK, maybe that was a bad example, but then.
I don't know, I understand. Any other sport, any any other
sport like the golf. All right, fine.
Birdie wing. Oh my God, no, I'm doing it
again. Birdie wing is not supposed to
be real golf either, right? No, But yeah, it's just like,
that's not like the second you know something about it, it's
like, wait a minute, that's that's not right.
And that was that. Why are you wasting my time with
this BS that isn't correct. You know, I don't know.
I think they do a good job of, of blending it in.
And I liked the little tease too, that it was like, Oh, well,
they're explaining it because it's a little girl who has no
idea what's going on, and then a guy who's too busy working to do
anything else but work needing to understand something, even
though it's a little weird that he didn't go once to or, or like
sit there watching it with his daughter or his.
Wife. It's his wife.
Yeah, like, never watched him once throughout his competing
days, but you know, whatever. Absent fathers are a thing,
apparently, right? So even though he's not his dad
either. I don't know, I'm.
I'm talking too much. Does that answer your question
though, Miles? Yeah, I think that makes sense.
I, I don't know, I, I just sort of always wish they would do
things in the way where like you pick up bits and pieces of it as
it goes on via like more natural conversations people would have
like, OK, we're going to do this because this scores more, you
know, than that, but not as opposed to like explaining it
and then talking about in a, in a way.
The. Coaches together do that a
little bit. I feel like I just, I, I don't
know, To me, there was just too much.
Yeah, I don't know, focus on the sport.
I don't. No, I totally, I totally get it.
But you're not wrong. They do focus on the sport a
lot, but. Yeah, you know, like.
I this is, This is why I don't watch sports anime.
I watch sports, you know, and then I get to watch the sports I
want to watch. So I I thought I liked it I
guess. I I feel like this isn't the
point in time that I want them to focus on the sport because
this is not a point in time and Nori can lose, right?
Like, I think a lot of it is that like this particular
competition was like narratively a little predetermined.
That's. Fair.
You know, and so that way I wish they were like doing more on
like the personal stuff. And then once you get to like
more top level skaters, right, once you're in, you know, I
mean, if I had to guess the plot of medalist, right, Anori.
So after you win novice, if you're top 4A novice nationals,
you get invited to junior nationals, which is like the age
up. And we met those people, I think
pretty early on in this season, including the one girl who lost
to Hikaru because she got invited after winning novice.
This is this is reminds me of Glee how land the shit miles.
So there's a bit in the show community, there's an episode
that is based on Glee. It is it is very funny.
The the Mr. Shu stand in ends up having killed the last Glee club
to try to get the the main characters community in because
they were better at singing. But regardless, a running joke
through that is we need to qualify for regionals and
everyone's like, what what does regionals mean?
And everyone was like, I don't know.
But after that is, you know, sectionals and then it's
nationals and then it and it just never stops.
And we're always qualifying for a tournament.
And I don't know, I had a little bit of that.
So what you're talking is you want them to Expo dump the
tournament structure. I probably could have used some
Expo dump of the tournament structure I.
I also agree with that. I could use it.
I could use it too, 'cause I'm like, we literally started this
episode and this, we started this episode asking this
question and we were talking about this before we started
recording as well. When is nationals or how many?
How far away are we from like nationals or?
From we are like where are we in OK, but there are levels to
nationals that are age based. So Inori is in nationals right
now. At the end of the season she she
won her regional, she got into nationals and then if she is top
4IN what she is in which is called novice nationals, she
gets invited to participate in junior nationals, which is like
the next higher age bracket. Hikaru, I believe, won junior
nationals last year and also novice nationals.
But this was a point that I believe gets made early on in
this season when Anori is going to like that first tournament
she went to early on. And those like older girls come
in who are like the Olympic hopefuls or whatever.
And you know, she's like, how do I, how do I get to the Olympics?
But one of those people was like upset because he grew, I think
beat her in the junior nationals tournament.
But there's another nationals tournament after that, which is.
And This is why I needed the Expo dump not to tell me how
fucking the scores work. Because I if you do more twirly
things, it's worth more. I can figure that one out.
Not necessarily true. Not true.
Also not about to say. It depends on the type of twirly
thing you're doing and da da da da da.
But why are there two different national BRAC the circuits?
I'm not, I'm unsure. Why does the junior why does the
junior that wins the top five there get to supersede the next
every other person that's a year older than them and
automatically qualify for the the the the June the next age is
up championship? That's insane.
It it? Well, it's to promote young
talent is what I'm assuming it is.
OK, Why doesn't the why doesn't the AAA baseball team that wins
AAA get to play in the MLB playoffs?
You know what I mean? Like.
Actually, that's how soccer works.
Yeah, it's relegation. No, that's OK.
It kind of is. It's.
Not no, because they would. You don't get promoted if like a
team in the this would be like if a team in the championship
finished with 100 points and got promoted and like finished top
of the league in the championship and then made it to
the Premier League, the next step up.
And oh, the top Premier League team had 95 points.
Oh, you guys are the Champions of the Premier League too.
If it would feel like to me or, or oh, you finished top 4, you
would have finished top 4 if you were in the Premier League.
Like I, I guess my point is it's like they don't instead of
having to compete, they they get to qualify for the same
tournament that the juniors get to or, or that the the age group
above them gets to without having to face the same
competition or scoring requirements.
Maybe is a better way to put it as the group ahead of them does,
You know, like I does that not. This is how I, this is how I
picture think of it like when you were playing hockey or
whatever, like you had like with like Bantams, you had like
Bantam B, Bantam A and then after that it was like whatever
JV or something like that. I don't know how your structure
work, but it's essentially something along the lines of
what I feel like it is, is that if you're 12, you are competing
at this bracket, but if you're 10 and you're good enough, you
can move up and compete with the 12 year olds, but the 12 year
olds can't go the opposite direction.
And that's kind of what it feels like because that's kind of like
how our sports is structured. We're like if you're good enough
and you're young enough, you can play up, but if you're old
enough and bad enough, you don't play down.
Right, I guess that makes sense from like a full season
perspective. I just thought it was weird that
they like go from oh, you win your ages championship, that
means you're also going to compete against the Champions of
the other ages above you's championship.
That's where I I thought that. Was kind of good against the
Champions. You're competing in their
tournament, right? So you like the the four best
novices get to compete against however many people are in the
junior, junior nationals. It's basically like you get some
because you're the best of your age group.
You get some more exposure and you get to compete at a higher
level and everything, especially with something like figure
skating where you know, people who are, you know, they, they
keep beating this home. Like you start how early you
start training and how early you're put on these like Olympic
tracks and everything. You know, it's kind of like,
it's not the same. But you know how like EPL teams
will like sign people at like 13 and just like shove them in an
Academy and they probably get to play against people who are like
way fucking better than them and like older than 13 or whatever.
But because, yeah, it's that sort of thing, I guess, just
slightly more structured in a national bracket type of deal.
I guess that makes it make a little more sense.
And and then they, yeah, it's more it's an extra tournament
that they get to do, not they skip up to the next level at the
Yeah, they, yeah. 'Cause if they're still like,
'cause he grew, is still doing novices this year, right?
Because she is in that age bracket, she still has to do
that. But if she wins, she gets to go
to the Pro Bowl for novices, which is the junior tournament
basically. You know, it's like pro.
Bowl for novices I like. That, yeah, except for people
take it seriously. People used to take the Pro Bowl
seriously. Not since I've been watching it.
It's been. A long time.
It's been a long outside, but it did used to take it seriously.
Not in the last 20 years, but yeah, that, that's the, the
general structure they're going at which I don't know.
I I guess we were all like a little confused by it.
Could have used that. Apparently the exposition.
Well OK, but see this comes back to my thing.
Why do I know this? Because of my theory of just
Google it, see they didn't need to explain it because I just, I
just, you know, I was like, oh, I wonder how this works.
And then I typed in, you know, Japanese figure skating
tournament brackets and stuff like.
I feel like you need a healthy mix of both if you want.
I feel like it needs to be you do you you.
Do need some both right? Like you do need both.
Let me see this what what it like what it presented in the
show like did did it like make sense?
Did you understand it? Did you comprehend it?
Like I think that is what's important.
Then sort of like what they did. I, I, I wish you guys watched
the new Jujitsu Kaizen season because there's literally an
episode devoted to the rules of the game that they have for the
season. And people just lost their
fucking mind that they had to read in anime.
So it's like it always goes back to this.
It's just like, can you guys take like an episode of just
chill? So you're OK?
Wait, so Pete, you're a very big fan of Fate 0 episode 1?
Yeah, I mean, walking around the the chairs is cool, right?
Yeah, I mean, yeah. And explaining the rules of the
game. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, it's fun. I think it's dull as fuck.
I'll figure it out. It is, but it is like like like
if you run down a piece of paper like what happened in that
episode, it's like 2 people walked around the chair and
explained the rules. Like it sounds dumb as shit.
But then when I watch it, I'm like, oh, interesting.
I don't know. It's, it's hard to describe.
It's it's about how you present it, not like what it is.
Yeah and no. And I.
Mean, I do agree there's definitely, there's definitely
some of that. I I just, I don't know, I just
like for media, I like to get like just sort of dive in, you
know what I mean? Like for a game that I get to
play in some capacity, I will listen to people talk about the
rules for like ever. But but to me, it's like if I
really cared about ice skating, I would watch ice skating.
Oh, Chicago Fire. It just just, it just dives in.
Just dives in. Like it doesn't.
Who cares? Just here you go.
You know, they're in Chicago and they're battling fires.
You would love that show. You know what's good?
It wasn't me this time. Yeah, it wasn't me this time.
I just want to throw it out there that it wasn't me we
haven't brought. Chicago Fire in a minute.
So hey. Yo, it is.
It's this cat hasn't been here to bring up Reno 911 or not
Reno. Oh, I was like, what?
Not Reno. What's it called 911?
It's just called 9. 1911 Lodestar.
Lone Star is the Rob Lowe one. Yes, yes, yes.
But I what I really took away from the last like 10 minutes of
our discussion about basically nothing was for being or not not
not Medalist, I should say specifically at least.
Or ya ya nice is that Miles is giving me consent to have my
phone out at the movie theater Googling things while I'm
watching the Medalist movie when it comes to the States next
time. No.
OK, but the medalist movie is going to be 1 tournament, right?
So you're good unless the Medalist movie is really bad and
then it will be more than one turn.
Better not I'd be it's. Going to be Breaking Dawn Part 1
and 2. Like split it up.
It's the two. Things this is even going to be
like a Netflix movie. This is a featured film.
Like it better be fucking good. Yeah, but it's like, you know
how we don't have that last haiku movie out, but you know
how they're they're like really shoving a lot of stuff in there.
Yeah. Like that is my I guess
theoretical concern if if they want to medalist the medalist
movie will be one tournament unless it is bad is what I that
I'm sticking to it. How far into the future?
Not to peek too far behind the curtain, but like how much
further ahead is the manga? Is it finished?
Are we gonna look at 2 year time skip in the manga where they're
at right now? Where they're at, it's one.
It's one or two. It's it's not that much further
into the future right now. But I'm sad.
Stuff definitely happens. They started they started
foreshadowing some of the like coaching changes and team
changes that'll be happening in the future this season in the
way that, Oh my God, the season is what's the database anime
Pete? Log Horizon.
Yeah, Season 3. That's what this is.
OK. I was going to bring it up
because it's like it, it kind of is, right?
Like. Yeah, no, I'm, I'm being 100%.
This is the ones that's not derogatory.
I just mean that seriously, that's what this is.
So so I'm wait, sorry to clarify what my question was, was like
how many more 12 episode seasons could be made after this movie
before we catch up to the manga? One I want to say.
So, so like we're caught. We're not caught up, but we're
getting there. I wouldn't be.
Surprised after the movie if we either don't get more medalist
or we don't get medalist for like 3 to 4 years.
But I know it's very popular in Japan.
I know it's not quite the level of like high Q or anything like
that, but like it did spark ice skating participation in Japan
and stuff like that. Like it has an impact on ice
skating in Japan. But I don't, I just, I don't
think they put out enough chapters fast enough for them to
continue maybe one more season. But like, I don't think this is
going to be a series that we're going to get finished in anime.
Yeah, I, I suspect we'll get this at the very this movie at
the very least. And then it also it just depends
on how long it goes, because there's no reason you couldn't
do this for a long time if you wanted to.
I think it just ended her winning a medal, right?
She, well, she already won a medal.
I mean like the Olympic medal when I say yeah.
Well, that's a long time though. She's got that's, you know.
How old is she? She's like.
She's 10 or 11 right now. So 8 years 7. 7-8 years, yeah.
It's actually wait, now sometimes they're like 16 and
skating I guess, but like. She is.
She is in the most recent chapters 13 according to the
wiki. OK.
And I think she's in like, I think she's 10 or 11 right now.
I look forward to the time skip. I mean, that was going to be one
of my questions later for a discussion point, but I guess we
can do it now since we're there. I would like to show if they
were high schoolers so much more than young children, because I
feel like the nuance and the intelligence that they show
about their sports and understandings and things like
that. Like even like protege 10 year
olds in baseball or in football or wherever aren't showing like
that level of understanding in my opinion of of the sport that
they're doing and the things they're doing.
I feel like it it, it kind of like takes me out of it in the
same way miles. The exposition will take you out
of it. Sometimes it takes me out of it
when this 11 year old that you know, even if you're growing up
obsessed with a sport, like when I, I grew up obsessed with
hockey, I didn't, I didn't understand like just 2nd, 3rd,
4th tertiary levels of strategy and scoring and things like that
in what until I was at least in high school.
So like it feels like it just takes me out a little bit.
Does that happen to you guys at all or, or would you enjoy it
more if it was older? I also, and also because it
would get to this Olympic medal dream faster.
I guess I get it though, too, because you can't have, well,
I'm about to say you can't have a character start skating when
they're in high school and then win an Olympic medal and be like
successful at skating. But they also literally have
that character in the show in Tsukasa, correct?
Like he's maybe? He doesn't win.
He doesn't win an Olympic medal, but he went he's he's at the
top. He's the thing I didn't want to
talk about. He's not at the top like so I
mean, he's, he's high up, but like.
What at his peak he was though it like he it was shown, I
thought at least that he was competing for.
Like a heist dancer, which is. It's different sport, of course,
too, but not that different in in like there's people that are
training their whole lives for that too.
Yeah, he was in. That's my point.
Like, I guess my point is like he started really late.
Like the whole point is like, oh, you can't do this and then
succeed. And I'm sure that that'll be
something they talk about later where it's like, oh, thank
goodness we did start in Ori early enough.
But it I, I just wish they were older.
I wish, I wish it wouldn't Take Me Out of it.
Can I, can I go first? Because I think that defeats the
entire purpose of this story if it is not that.
Like the whole point is Tsukasa wasn't able, didn't have the
means to skate when he was younger in the way that he
wanted to. It took him to him having a
essentially A sponsor family and him paying for his own training
in order to get to where he is. He sees a Nori as the child that
he was at that age and takes her in essentially.
So no, I, I, I think if if the character was older it would
defeat the entire purpose of the show.
I well why can't you just do it with Anori at like 13 or already
or something like that? Or, or maybe a Raider rephrase,
it would be it's. The context of what the sport
is. It's the same thing with like if
you wanted to be a world class piano player, I feel like where
like the people who are world class piano players started
playing when they were four. That's just facts.
Like are there some people who are world class piano players
that started when they were 18? Absolutely.
But I bet 95% of them started when they were 4.
Ice skating, ping pong, like these types of sports were like
it's so technical and it's so skilled where you need the
repetitions more than anything. And with that is time.
And you need that when you start young.
Though in the context of ice skating, I would say no.
It is absolutely necessary to have the story start here.
Or if you want Sukasta to be the character that he is, the other
main character has to be the like the younger version of him.
Yeah, I I think I generally agree.
What I will say is I think I think Ignori is for the pacing
succeeding a little too quickly for my personal taste.
I would. Love to talk about this.
OK. Because I guess I would like to
see because like I like her more as like a scrappy underdog as
opposed to like some sort of like, you know, prodigy that
just happened to start later. Like I think that's less
interesting when you sort of do that.
And because they because they start younger in my head when
you if you know, I'm plotting this out, that gives her more
time to like scrape and scrap her way to the top eventually.
And So what you could do is start her around the same age
because that's genuinely like around the cut off to start
skating and be successful at it is like her age.
Like it's really close to about as old as you get to start, you
know, doing this and be on the track that she wants to be on,
but have her lag behind a little bit because she started late.
Be, you know, be successful, but not up to the level of these,
you know, people who've been doing it forever.
Like I've heard that one poor girl who's like been grinding
since she was like 3 and Nori shows up and she's been doing
this for seven months and just crushes her.
It just, I don't know, you just got to feel bad.
But I I think having her start at this age is good.
And currently in the manga, she's 13 and that happens over
the course of 36 chapters, Pat. So I, you know, I don't know if
that's, you know, quick enough, it may be a little bit quicker.
I think we both agree that the season is like a little sort of
drug out. So, you know, if you had a world
where she was getting to be that age, that episode like 16
instead of like a theoretical episode 30 or something like
that, perhaps that would work a little better.
For you, I just would like it to move faster.
Maybe then is the is the better way to phrase that.
But I I'm just frustrated where I'm like, OK, because like this
tournament, I get that there were different stakes, but it
didn't really feel like there were different stakes.
It didn't feel like we had changed.
I didn't feel anything for this tournament.
It meant nothing to me. It just sort of felt like a a
check mark, a box for her to her to do and that that's a little
bit of my issue. But Pete, you wanted to talk
about the Anori thing. Oh, I want to say that like her,
her skill set of how she, because we talked about this in
the first review, is that Inori was practicing ice skating the
entire time. She just wasn't practicing on
ice. Like she's not a prodigy.
She has been practicing for years.
And I use this as an example because I did this when I played
tennis is essential. It's the essential.
Essentially, it's shadowboxing. It's practicing your technique.
And golfers do this all the time too, with like your swing where
you're just swinging at nothing randomly out of nowhere.
You're practicing your. Teams.
And like those little things add up to your to your skill set.
So Anori being in this bracket with how little of experience
she has, like on ice, I think makes sense because she
developed her skill set elsewhere.
But I don't think it was, it would be one of those things
where like it would translate if she was like 15 because she's,
she would be competing against people who had like, let's just
say like 8 years of experience versus where she is now where
they have, you know, 3-4, five years of experience.
It doesn't, it equates more to her skill set now than it would
later. So I think it makes sense in the
context that like, she's not just this prodigy who wins
everything, that she has been busting her ass this whole time.
But your argument here is that she self-taught herself how to
do this via osmosis of learning. Like that's very for digits,
right? Like that's.
It's it's a it, but it is a thing like it is a thing
freaking the the Tokyo toe who just got signed to whatever like
he learned kicking football from YouTube.
Like like like like shadowing what you see on ice and then
doing it like on dirt translates to ice.
Like it's it it it like it, it works in both both ways.
Like her training on Off the Ice is training for the ice.
Yeah, but surely it's less efficient, right?
Like then actually, yeah. So I to me, it's, I don't know,
I guess I would just like it a little bit more if she had to.
OK. So in season 1 when she's like
winning her her thing, it's against a lot of people who are
quite a bit younger than her. And it is a very entry level
thing to me in my head. I don't.
I completely understand the structure of all of this, but we
went from her beating a character like Mittens who have
been doing it longer, but is younger, right, and has some
personality issues that makes it like a little harder, you know,
because she's like 5 or whatever.
It, it makes it like, it's just, it's weird to me.
She's competing against Hikaru, who people are like, yeah, she's
probably going to be in the Olympics in a year.
Like, you know, she's like God's gift to figure skating and like
Anori went from beating a 7 year old to competing against her
after one extra tournament. It just, to me, it just feels
weird. I, I just feel like we, we got
here really quick and I missed something.
I I don't know. Well, like Hikaru is probably
going to blow her out of the water, right?
Like when they. Actually, we can only hope.
To like if a no one loses by a point that would be stupid
right? Like Ikaru should destroy Inori
but like the fact that they're in the same tournament I don't
think necessarily means. Anything but they were they were
no, but they were plotting the the points, right.
So if Inori does her routine, which admittedly, they're sort
of betting on one jump, right? Like she'll outscore because
like, June does the mental math to like, figure out what they're
planning to do because Rio's dad snitches on them like a little
beta boy who never won a gold and feels guilty for upsetting
Daddy June. But you know, I, I don't know, I
guess it, maybe it's just how they're presenting it.
Maybe it is the attitude of Ignori and Sukasa where they're
like, we're going to get this done no matter how impossible it
is, right? And then the movie's going to
happen and Ignori's going to come in 8th and, you know, get
her ass kicked. Like need salute.
I I think she needs to lose this tournament bad.
I agree. Like this is like and then time
skip a year to this again, maybe and then we assume that she's
been training this whole time and then it becomes more
believable like that's I. So there we go.
We come full circle to where I want this like I would like us
to be progressing faster. I guess in the sense of like, I
like she's progressing too fast in terms of winning right now to
where it doesn't feel very realistic or like, OK.
Guys, guys, there's no chance she loses badly this term.
I think there's. I I really do.
I OK, so presuming we know OK, we have a movie coming up right
and that movie is going to be a big then if we look at the
splash heart right it is you know Anori facing he grew in a
ice skating match. OK, now realistically there is
one place that can happen, the UFC, and it's yeah, yeah.
It's like, I don't know, are they going to do a movie in the
UFC? Are they going to do a movie
into the end of that movie? You know, Inori comes in like
8th or whatever, or is she going to come in?
Took a second. OK.
That's not by the way, that's not losing.
You qualify and you get a silver Med like that that's technically
losing that is basically just as good as coming in.
How about we? Debate it when the movie drops.
We don't. We don't know what's going to
happen. We're playing hypotheticals.
I'm just worried about it, Pete. I have anxiety and I'm
concerned. Well, let's let's turn that
anxiety upside down and talk about something fun.
We're we're playing the Justin Herbert game right now.
We shouldn't be because that's a boring game, the if game, right?
So yeah, no the one thing that I very much enjoyed about this
movie, this movie Jesus brain fried we're we're recording late
tonight. It's OK.
One thing that I very much enjoyed about this series or
this specific season of the series was the way that Inori
really learns from a lot of different sources and, and
different coaches throughout. You know, there's a lot of
resources that are being given to her and afforded her.
And I think that they they show a pretty good job.
They do a pretty good job of showing how she would be
learning from all these different people because it's
important, you know, there are all these different pieces that
would go into each and every single one of these trials and
successes at these tournaments, right?
So I thought that that was really well, well demonstrated
in the show or in this season even more so that was in the
first. What, what about you guys?
What What else did you like about this season compared to
the first? All the things that Miles hates.
Fair. Sorry, I didn't.
I set you guys up for that one, didn't I?
That's why I'm letting Pete talk.
We're being positive right now and he can talk about why he
liked him and everything. No, I mean there's so many
different elements. You can all be quiet.
Like the pure sports element, like that's what I really liked
about we got, we got showcased so many different elements of
competitive sports that I love. We got to see the fun side
hanging out with everybody who's competing, like like, yeah, we
might be rivals on the on the rink or whatever like that.
But a lot of times like you're good friends with like the
people that you're surrounded with with like like the same
hobbies. And so we kind of got introduced
to a new cast and like you got to see like the fun and that
interpersonal stuff that we got more of in Season 1 with like
the competitors in this. And then we have to see like the
more of the, I would say the coaching side of like who June
is, their approach, their styles of coaching, the contrast of
June to su Casa. I really enjoy just like like,
do you do you take your style of coaching and apply it to your
your mentee or do you how do you how do you shape them?
Like you adapt your styles to them.
They adapt their styles to you and that's kind of like what I
feel like Ignore and Sukasa are. And then you had like the
opposite with like June who's just like you need to do this,
you have to do this, this is how we're doing it.
And like those are two real and both effective ways of coaching
depending on who you're coaching like that.
The one thing I didn't like with the sports element, the harness
stuff was like 1 episode too long like that.
To me, that's where it felt like it was dragging a little bit
where like I thought it was cool and interesting to see how they
kind of like especially with like the physics of like jumping
and like how people, how they like carry up, how skinny people
can hold, you know, people up in the air for 15 seconds.
It's like it's all force and it's all whatever.
I'm like, OK, that's cool. I like that a lot.
Like it's one of those things where it's like a lot of humans
can do backflips. You just have to like practice
the technique and then you can do it the the hardest reminded
me of that where it's like you can, it's in you.
You just need to like, you need a little push, you need a little
help, you need a little work on your technique.
I, I really enjoyed them diving into the sports element of
figure skating and this season because then it sets up.
This is so well-rounded. Like the first season was more
interpersonal with a sports element.
This to me was a sports show with like an interpersonal
element as like the secondary though, it's a great mix and I
think it really does build up for what's to come and it makes
the the moments more impactful, whether it's like connections
based with the cast or if it's results based in the
performances. I just, I loved it, absolutely
loved. It the the technical stuff too,
like the when you learn how to skate, what do you do?
You first you stand and hold one of the sleds or whatever, and
then from there you graduate to being able to skate on your own
too. So I thought the hardest was a
very cool way to demonstrate how else you might train, how to
skate one. Just to stay on the positive
note before we get to anything more negative.
Hey, hey, I've got negatives too.
But one thing that I very, very, the other aspect that I very
much enjoyed was them acknowledging and taking
advantage of Sukas background as an ice dancer versus an ice a
figure skater. I thought it was really cool how
Edori's programs, I think they're called, were very
clearly made by someone who is an ice dancer or and she was
taught by someone who was an ice dancer.
And like how they they acknowledge the technical
differences that that style of skating would both help him with
how he coaches her, but also would help her because of what
she's learned and then is able to formulate that into a
program. And of course it doesn't help in
the literal touring or the ability to fly through the air
or do specific tricks, but or turns or whatever.
But it does help in her connecting all of those together
and making a program in a sequence that is different and
good and good enough to compete with people that have been doing
it for a very long time. I thought that that was really
well explained and also shown in the animation of her actually
doing the things and compared to the other dancers or not
dancers, skaters. Pardon me, Miles, go ahead.
Pooh Pooh parade time. Let's do it.
I'm kidding. I'm kidding.
I'm kidding, I'm kidding. We're going to talk about some
things I liked and then I, I, but I do think I figured out
what my issue with the season is overall, because it's been a
hard time for me to figure it out exactly.
And I think I figured it out, But you know, I do.
I liked the coach talking, as you mentioned, like all the
different coaches and like their perspectives and their
interactions were good. I liked it with Tsukasa.
I I think that we got like a little mini bit of Sukasa sort
of really coming to his own as a coach this season and starting
to feel like he belongs, which was good.
I liked that. You know, when he's working with
the different coaches, they're all sort of agreeing or
disagreeing on how to how to deal with certain things.
You know, there's like that blue haired coach and Sukasa who are
both a little like, you know, a little lighter on their
students, a little more like buddy, like, Hey, we got this.
And then you have like some of their peers who are a little
more like, no, you got to you know, and that it that's always
interesting to see because as Pete mentioned, it's it's
viable, right? Like, and you saw that all the
different students ask for different things from their
coaches. Like, I don't want you to
sugarcoat this. And other people were like, I
need you to sugarcoat this because like I'm devastated
right now, you know. And you know, it's sort of like
in our Discord, join in the link below.
We, you know, we were talking about our our managers and how
much we'd like compliment sandwiches and or not the other
day and it's like a similar thing.
Yeah, you know, Right. Yeah, yeah.
So like 4, you know, you sort of have that.
But the four people here are going to be like, yo.
You know, we were, we were a little split.
Some people were like, I don't want that.
Like, I hate it when people compliment me just like, say
mean things to me and like, tell me what to do better.
And then like, you know, some people like the the compliments
and like, I get that. But, you know, I know what I'm
good at. Tell me what I'm bad at.
But, you know, sometimes, yeah, You know, I thought that was
good. I liked that we got to see more
of that family, even though, as Pat mentioned, it was like, a
little weird that they had never watched Yukasa skate.
Like like you can go to nationals to watch your like
adopted son Jesus. Christ was the mom dying at the
time like. She went.
She watched her. In Season 1.
Wow. And also watching on TV, you'd
be able to at least somewhat try and ask some of the questions
that they asked you, right? You would think.
Like you would just. Watch it and stare at the screen
and be like, wow, that's crazy, you know?
There was a scene that I liked between that that like the dad
and Inori, where he like picked her up and like sang a song, but
it was like a little weird because he had no idea that was
Inori. It's just a random child.
But it was very funny, so I I forgave it.
And so I think ultimately what my issue is though, with this
season, because there's a lot of things I still like about it.
I think the interaction between the cast are still good.
I think, you know, Inori is still as lovable as ever.
SU Casa is still the GOAT, right?
These things are here when you're comparing this to high Qi
was thinking about what the main reason I don't like high Q is
right. And I you know, I I talk about
the explaining and the cutbacks and stuff and this this show
doesn't do like as many flashbacks as IQ does, right?
Like anyone, anytime anyone touches a volleyball, they we
like learn about their, you know, I don't know, dead brother
or something who like really wanted them to play volleyball
and yeah, who really wanted them to play volleyball.
But the thing I don't like the most about Haiku is I don't
believe Hinata is good at volleyball.
I just don't believe it. I don't the the show has never
convinced me that he's actually good.
And at the end of Season 1 in Medalist, I completely believe
where Inori was. And I was very invested because
it felt like a very organic growth to me.
And maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'll be proven wrong in the movie, I
don't know. But the way that I experienced
Season 2 is I do not believe Inori is as good as she is.
Like I I just feel like she's been plot armored almost a
little bit at at how good she is at figure skating now where she
was learning how to do like a single axle last week or last
season, which was like not that long ago.
And now they're having her do a quad and she can land it and.
I wonder if like I I legit would want to know like from an ice
skater's perspective, how long is super to do a go from a
double to a triple or something like that?
Or like is Inori's growth actually realistic or or is it
plot armor like? Yeah, yeah.
I think that. Like, yeah, now I'm good.
Like 100% clear. I could, I could just be wrong,
right? Like, I don't, I don't know that
at all what the growth of a figure skater is like in my
perception, at least with the way they set up these people,
because they set these people up and they're like, they've been
doing it for seven years. And, you know, and just so it's
the time frame with a don't worry, but I don't know if that
is a plausible time frame or not.
And these other people are doing what is a normal time frame, you
know, or, or is everyone she's with a little bit exceptional?
But Hikaru is like the most except, you know, I just don't.
I think the movie will clear up a lot by what the gap between
her and his crew is because. Expo dumped.
That is what you're saying. Yeah, what I need.
No, I need them to explain to me.
You need them to exposit. Yeah, I need, I need an like
Expo dump on literally how muscles grow.
I needed a complete Physiology lesson.
Though you see, Adori was born early in her birth year, so
therefore she has eight months advance on some of the other 7
year old. Yeah.
That that's actually like really important by the way, like.
I was actually, I was like, what if someone's better just because
they've grown more? Like you're just stronger at
that age. Well, it's bad for that one
girl. Remember she hit her gross spurt
spurt early and it like changed her center of gravity or
whatever. And like she has horrible chin
splints. During my life.
OK wait, I found a Reddit thread on this.
OK, well, that's useless. Never mind.
I'll see if there's anything useful in it and I'll fill it in
later. The first one is basically just
saying what I'm. I'm saying it's like she's the
protagonist, It doesn't matter. And it's like, OK, well, that
doesn't help. Is it yes or no?
True. Yeah, we probably.
Have time for one more question? If you want to get an Eagle
question then. Yeah, let's do that then.
Miles, pick your favorite Eagle question, unless Pete wants to
pick it too. Do you want?
Me to do it. Go for it, anyone can do it.
We're. Terrible with this Eagles
question of the day there. We go how do?
You think the anime's direction is such as pacing,
storyboarding, music influences, how we interpret Tsukasa and
June's relationship compared to how it might be come across in
the manga? Are there moments that feel
intentionally ambiguous? That's a great question I
because. That is a very good question.
I feel like Sukas is an open book.
I feel like how he is portrayed in the show is like wide open
and you can tell exactly who he is.
June feels like a type of character that there's something
behind why he's like a complete asshole all the time.
More than just like he's the edgelord character.
I would the animation. It's more of like how he's
framed. So I guess that's more of a
directed a direction like aspect of it because he's always framed
in like dark clothing, dark settings.
A smoking is an asshole is like very authoritative in his
training. And I mean, that's obviously
deliberate, but it it does set it up to where maybe he can be
deconstructed a little bit to understand why he is that
though, if if that is how they're setting it up, I think
they're doing a great job with both characters because they are
supposed to be they are supposed to contrast each other like
Tukasa's golden retriever. June is the, you know, black.
Retriever. Yeah, the darkness the.
Black lab or what's what's like a grumpy dog or something, I
don't know. But like there's there's
something there and how they're both.
Retrieved. I was just saying he's a cat,
yeah. He's the black cat.
There, there are no bad dogs, right?
Only bad. Owners.
So what I think is I'm going to, I'm going to do 2 things because
I think they sort of expanded on their dynamic.
I don't think they've really had much of a relationship before
any of this, but there's some sort of fun stuff that goes on
with them. One thing that I really didn't
like was the idea that June was like Sukasa, you're super
talented, you should like go back and skate.
Like if Sukasa goes and just start skating again is very good
at it. I will jump.
I think that is not what I want to happen, like literally at
all. I want him to be an amazing
coach and find fulfillment in that, even though he couldn't
find fulfillment in the thing that he wanted, like
unfortunately and like he could have been amazing, but he
wasn't. But he's OK with that because
he's able to be a great coach. What I like about their dynamic
is that for there's something about June that like Costa's
like a little amped compared to him.
But it's like an aunt, he's really noticed for some reason.
And like Sukasa lives like a little rent free in June's head.
And I think that's sort of neat because he remembers a lot of
the things Sukasa does. And I, I hope we get that.
Like why he is sort of grown attached to Sukasa even though
he's not as talented and really isn't a standout as far as his
accomplishments go. I would love to learn what what
it is or if there's an event that maybe Sukasta doesn't
remember that June saw or something like that.
Or you know that that makes, you know, when Sukasta shows up with
the Nori, like June remembers that even though they were just
like random people qualifying for whatever bad, you know,
badge rank 2 or whatever. Or how you remember his dance
ice dancing routine, even though most people remember like the
flub at the end, like so does June.
He brings it up because he's a Dick, but he's also like, you
were doing like great until you fucked up, you know what I mean?
It was like it was like really good until it wasn't dude, you
know, So I I'm pretty intrigued about that.
There's also like June is secretly Hikaru's coach, right?
And why that's the case and everything like why not publicly
is sort of interesting. So I think there's a lot to
examine there and I think I would love a little mini arc at
some point where June gets to coach and Nori for a little bit
just to experience that, because I think that would be very funny
from like a, you know, June doesn't feel like he would be
quite as uplifting as Sukasa is, but then Inori would be like,
you're not as good as Sukasa and that would drive him insane.
So I think, you know, it would be a good little dynamic there.
I don't know if that answers the question or not, but I think
it's intentionally ambiguous and I think we're supposed to figure
it out eventually, is basically my thought.
Yeah, I think this show does a pretty good job of teasing
things or or setting things up and then allowing them to
deliver on themselves as the story progresses.
I guess is is maybe a better way to phrase that.
So I think like the relationship you talked about between Jude
and Sukasa is like very vague and ambiguous.
Like we don't, we don't know for sure for sure why they are.
There's the tension, right, Other than obviously the initial
meeting in season 1. But like there's also just the,
the rivalry kind of going on too.
I, I don't know, I think they, they do a good job of like
building. And then when the payoff
eventually does come, I think it'll make it worth it.
All right, there we go. I guess it's time for closing
thoughts on Medalist Season 2. And if there's anything that we
missed, I would love for some comments in the discord asking
us any questions. We're always here.
We're always in this discord. Probably too much of our time is
spent here. So come join us and spend more
too much of your time here as well.
But yeah, let's Thanks, Pat. Pat, why don't you give us your
final score and your closing thoughts?
Oh, hello, Hello. My name is Patrick.
I love Mellos I I really do think Mellos is setting itself
up to be one of the best sports anime he's ever made.
I love every aspect of it. I love the characters, the cast,
how they implemented. The only like real negative I
would say about season 2 is that the O PS and E DS were not as
good as season 1. Those are both Omega bangers in
season 1 like the season 2 like OP is like fun for A I don't
know I'm not it. Grew on me, but it grew from
like to it reminded. Me of like a kidz bop song, like
I I don't know, like I just couldn't.
I got the kidz bop 5 for. You it just I like the kidz bop
song. There's nothing wrong with it.
It's just like for for a sign in, like it just didn't.
I don't know. It matches the tone, but like, I
don't know, it's whatever. I fucking love Medalist.
It was so good. I can't wait for the movie.
I hope we get more than one showing.
I hope this is one of those like, or maybe it's one of those
Crunchyroll anime nights type of thing.
But Oh no though, this, this wasn't on Crunchyroll.
Just kidding, Crunchyroll hates Medalist.
But yeah, I thought just the showcase of the actual sport
more was awesome. It was, it was something
different from Season 1. It got me more involved into
what's to come. I think it's going to make the
impact for the bigger scenes even better because of what we
got in the season. Yeah.
I'm just, I can't wait for it to see what's next to come. 9 out
of 10 really really like Metal Season 2.
Go 9 out of 10. All right, Miles, Mr. Cranky
Pants, apparently. What have you got?
So as I was talking about this, I remembered all the things I
love about Metalist and. Yeah.
Yeah, it makes it a little hard because like, OK, the first
thing I felt after I finished this was like kind of annoyed
that it ended where it did and that, you know, the whole season
could have been like an e-mail because like, we didn't even
like talk about the tournament and how people competed or
anything because, like, it just didn't matter.
As Peters mentioned, like the, it was sort of a season focus on
the technical aspects and like learning about different styles
and learning a little bit. I think more about Sukasa and
who he was a little subtly. And let's focus on a Nori, I
guess, even though, you know, she did matter of course this
season. But it was it was a pretty, it
was an interesting way to do things.
I'm going to give it a 7 for right now and we'll see how I
feel later. There we go, let's go.
Well done Pete, you won. This is Miles conceding defeat
to. Another Pete dub.
There we go, all right, and for me, I won actually because I got
him to give the same score I am giving as well of a 7 out of 10.
I feel pretty good about that. I gave season 1 and 8 for
reference. I still think it's a very good
show. I think it's continues to build
up Inori and Sukasa in their relationship.
It's not really something we talked specifically about, but I
love their dynamic. It's kind of sad that you're, I
give a show brownie points for this, but there's no romantic
tension between them at all or any sort of like the garbage
that for whatever reason some shows have in terms of that, you
know, Fruits Basket, right? You know, like there's nothing
like that happening at all here, which I really appreciate.
Why don't you just have fruits basket?
You haven't even seen it. I have seen it.
What are you talking about? I've watched I we did it for
seasonal. It's like 4 years ago.
Yeah, it show came out like 3. Seasons of fruits.
Yes. No way to go pack.
That's what I had free time and. Didn't golf.
All three seasons of freeze baskets were amazing, by the
way. They were all very good.
Check out our reviews. Is it?
Yeah. It's the movie.
It's the movie, right? Yeah, yeah, they it all blended
together because I did do the movie right when I did the final
season as well. But yes, OK, it's all coming
back to me. The Zodiacs too.
So fun, so fun, very cool show. But yeah, so thanks for not
doing that Medalist. I really appreciate that because
you just, I don't know, man. You just never know what these
shows. There's none of it though.
There's not even like, oh, there's a slightest hint, none
of it. And I really, really appreciate
that. So yes, I want more of it and I
will look forward to more of it. And yeah, the I'd like them to
keep aging and move along here at a more realistic pace, but
we'll get there. We'll get there.
But so with my seven, we come out to a score of a 7.66
repeating on average between us at watch club, which is probably
skewed by how few of us there are.
But an 8.46 is what it is on Mal.
So that's what, like 3/4 or a point lower just about.
I'm sure it'll go up, though. The movie's going to be great.
Movie's going to be great. She's going to lose and it's
going to be great. I believe in it.
But yeah, that wraps up our
discussion on Yahweh on Ice Season 2.
Now, let's move on to what won this week for what we voted on.
Miles, you have those results below.
What are we watching two weeks from now?
I do so we will. There's only three, so I'm I'm
just going to cut to the winner in this case because everything
gets a legacy point, but we are going to be watching.
Oh my God, I typed that so bad that it's actually fucking yes.
I I typed Shibuki or whatever it is like so poorly that it fucked
up my ability to remember the name of the this will.
Be a really fun conversation I I think whether.
You. I am excited about it.
Whether you like the show or not, this will be a great
conversation. That's what I, I think I could
go either way on it. I I people say this is you, so
we'll find out. You don't give it a 10.
You're 100. OK, your your floor is A9.
OK, seven point. 1/6 though. Oh my God.
No, trust me, it is is great. I I like that it's 17 plus.
Sometimes with the subject matter, sometimes if sad things
happen in these types of shows, people get mad and lower the
score. I don't know why this is lower,
but like that's a potential reason people get mad when not
happy things happen in anime. Anyways, that being said, I
wanted Nori to lose. When people die in the death
game anime. Oh no.
Yeah, there you go. All right, Well, what are we
nominating then for two weeks after that?
That'll be Memorial Day. So your show that you nominate
must contain at least one American character that has
served, by the way, too, because it's Memorial Day.
Because 4th of July, duh, would be the America Day this is.
So we need veterans. We need military veterans or
active service members. OK.
In this show, what have you got, Pete?
I'm nominating a few good men. Then I guess like you want the
truth, handle the truth. It's.
One of my favorite movies, it's so good.
It's a great film. Real talk though, Sox has some
dirt on me though. He he he threw out a
recommendation and I like it a lot.
So I'm going to nominate the live action movie of Speed
Racer. Sure.
All right. Sure.
Is there not an anime that's like short enough?
I think it's like. Episodes or something?
Yeah, it's, well, it's like a, it's a kids cartoon, like a
Saturday, you know, like nothing of consequence ever happens.
Kind of, I don't know, like show it's.
Pretty sure something happens immediately that show.
Not I mean, well, I mean like. It's like a syndicated you're,
you're. Yes, yeah.
Yeah, like, like it's like you watch Pokémon and it's
Syndicate. Yeah.
There you go. OK, syndicated was the word I
was looking for, but fair enough.
All right, well, I guess we'll do that.
You know, the live action movie? That sounds interesting.
Yeah. It's miles to episodes, Pete.
Am I allowed to nominate Tokopi? Sure.
You can say no if you want to. Actually, you know, for this
type of setting, it's OK, OK, I'd rather watch it with you
guys than like by myself. OK, cool.
I'm going to do Toke P's original Sudden, which is a show
that did really, really, really well last year.
It was our runner. Up for Anime of the Year I.
Believe it was yes, and people have said it it it does the
stuff that I like, so there you go.
Therefore, I will nominate it. I like that that that's sound
logic. I got go speed racers OP stuck
in my. Or maybe not OP, just the song.
That's singing in the episode of it.
Go speed Racer. Go speed.
Racer, I got stuck in my head and I just can't.
Think of why else right now did they come out this year?
No, I keep on like 2000 and what?
OK, Have you never seen it? Why were we talking about it?
Oh because it just got it was it got like re released in IMAX
like last week for like a day and also the movie fox it is
great. Wait, is this the one with the
white dude is the main speed racer guy?
Yeah, it's a, it's a feature film, of course, a like.
Holy shit. OK.
It's like the Dragon Ball movie. Of course, Goku's white.
His name's Goku. He's just some interest John
Goodman's in this. Movie.
He's his dad. The movie's great.
I'm telling you, the movie is fantastic.
Movie has a 6.1 on IMDb. They're wrong.
The movie's good. OK, all right, that's Speed
Racer movie. There we go.
Go Speed Racer. Go.
I am going to nominate my happy marriage again because it will
eventually win, I think. I think people like it and will
vote for it. YouTube won't vote for it
because you've already seen it before.
But think about like little poor old me who hasn't seen it.
So he would like dude. I might, I'm not trying to watch
Speed Racer. I literally keep the manga on my
desk. There you go.
I would very much appreciate it if you guys voted for it for me.
Do it for me, you know? We got to do a thing where each
of us gets a a token once a year, OK?
And Pete just cast in his token and it's just for a completely
illegal fucking nomination like. Anime and Jason, it's fine like
we've nominated like Blue Samurai.
Yeah, we've just never done a live action movie before.
A live action is a bit of a stretch I guess.
Is there not a? Is there a?
Is there an an anime? Watch the movie is better than
the anime, I guarantee you. Well, no, but is there an anime
movie for Speed Racer that we could just dive into?
No context at. Least at least on Mal.
But trust me, you want to watch this.
The people want us to watch it. And who am I to deny the people?
Just the person in charge. Raced a movie The 1967 classic
that that's a compilation of three episodes of the iconic
anime series. Path.
I think we'll pass on a 19. 60 Can we also watch that?
You can watch the racer wings. Go for it, it's like only an
hour. Hey.
I would do that you. Have so much free time, Miles,
why don't you go watch it? OK, Pete, I just want to watch a
67 anime. We're watching that one. 2008
Anime. I think that would be neat if we
did that. You can nominate it next time.
OK. All right, well, I was the only
one who followed the theme by dominating a military brat.
Oh. Sorry, I meant to to nominate
Fate Strange Fake, which takes place in America and contains a
service member, so you're welcome.
Yep. There we go.
Thank you guys. I will later it's it's on my
short list. OK, sick because.
You won't be allowed to. Yeah, you could.
No, it's the theme week, duh. No, obviously not.
I mean, Pete, would you much rather me do that than Tokopi?
Yes. OK.
Let's see if I can edit it before anyone says we votes.
So are you? That'll be the deciding factor.
For the podcast, are you changing your nomination?
Yeah, yeah, I'll do. I'll do Fazer and Trake.
Perfect, perfect. If you're not like super jazzed
about which I get like, you know, I'm not trying to torture
you, dude. Well, it's like one of those
things was like, what are anime or he got a runner up for Amy of
the year. But it has content that I really
don't like watching. So it's a double edged sword I
feel like, but. OK, I actually I've already
gotten 2 first place votes for Tucker.
That's fine. So I think it's a little.
Probably when you can nominate Fate next week.
OK, now let's just do that. Easy Dubs.
Or vote for my happy marriage. There you go.
There we go. Pat out it ain't with.
It it's done well, it has come in second a couple times.
This usual time shows, so it is, and it got a legacy point this
past week, which has to mean something.
You've been nominating Princess Principle movies for five years.
They still have not one. I think the issue with that is
that me, who would normally be the biggest proponent of trying
to get those done besides Pat, just decided to watch them, and
I've just watched them. All.
Just like yeah, I did it. Sad days, sad days.
I work so hard and this is the. The issue, the other issue is
that besides literally the three of us, the amount of turnover
that this segment has had since we watched pre pre during like
episode 3 or whatever of this fucking thing is massive it.
Was episode 2, by the way, we watched Maiden Abyss and then
now we're at Princess Principal. Yeah, I don't remember any of
the faces of the. You could show me like 20
different maid or like schoolgirl, gothic schoolgirl
characters. And I could not tell you which
of the four were like the main cast of Princess Principal.
But it's steampunk. It's pretty cool.
Pretty cool. But that's not what I nominated
again. My happy marriage.
There we go. But yes, that'll wrap up Watch
Club 4 tonight. I am so freaking hungry.
What and my what's my next line? My next line is thank you so
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