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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome to what do you say,
anime? On today's episode we will be
doing our second ever recommendation episode with a
little twist. Instead of doing demographics or
genres that we would recommend, we'll be playing off the meme of
the Anime Starter pack and giving a few recommendations
based on various themes. So for like example the
pretentious Weave Starter Pack we have shows like Legends of
the Galactic Heroes, even Galliot and Ghosts in the Shell.
Join me today on this episode is my lovely Co host, Miles Miles.
How's it going? Oh, you know, it's going really
good. I just realized what I should
have done for these starter packs and I'm kicking myself,
but it's going to be a good episode nonetheless.
We can always do a second episode of This Goes well or
something like that. Who knows?
River, If you want to hear us, just list 4 shows that are
mildly connected and make some jokes like that video.
Sick plug. Yeah you know we're always we're
always in the we're always trying to create new content and
different content and sometimes it sticks and sometimes it falls
right off the wall. So we will find out how the the
community reacts this. But I personally think this is a
good idea. I think it's fun people like
recommendations especially from somebody like me who has seen
like a shit ton and somebody like Miles who has taste.
So I I think it's AI think it's a good balance so.
Without further ado, Miles, I think you are going to start
things off with us with our your first like theme of anime
recommendation. Yeah, so you know just just to
prove how much taste. I have my first category for our
starter pack. We're gonna list 4 shows here
right that we think belong into this is like Baby's first
avant-garde anime. So if you're listening to this
and you're like, these anime aren't avant-garde, you
pretentious sack of shit, congratulations.
That's the theme. Oh, but before you list them,
since I'm a big baby, can you explain what an avant-garde
anime is? I absolutely can.
So like avant-garde is generally used to mean like new,
experimental, you know, different than the norm in some
way. The My Anime list definition,
which not all of these shows are going to fit into and for some
reason Higurashi Sotsu fits into.
And none of the other parts of the series is experimental
fiction which stuns conventional storytelling at the time it was
created. These stories often invoke
unsettled feelings because they were direct, traditional ways in
which we prefer to view or escape from the world.
Narrative is avant. Garde works is avant-garde works
is often of higher importance than content.
No, it probably means to say end.
So yeah, the narrative is like maybe more important than
exactly what's happening. Like the nuts and bolts and sort
of like the feeling and the tone is what you're looking for
according to this. But it basically just means
things that break tradition norms.
They're sort of experiment to learn new.
At the time they were creative. And so for my first one, I'm
going to do to Tommy Galaxy. So yes, this is like, I think if
you just sort of know this sort of thing, this is like probably
right where your brain went for this.
So why this is like a starter, avant-garde thing in my mind is
that overall this is a very approachable story, right?
This is about someone's experience at college and like
trying to make the most out of that time and trying to
reconcile with like potential regrets they had and how to make
the most of the time they have going forward.
That's super relatable, right? Everyone deals with something
similar to that. However, the way the story is
told is relatively unique, right?
You have this sort of time loop thing that's going on.
It's not clear exactly what role each person plays the role, like
you have a recurring cast that plays different roles in each of
these stories. It's not like a normal time loop
where things change and you can see like A cause and effect.
It's different each time in like relatively unique ways.
Aside from that, you have sort of the science Saru Ish art
style right? Which is definitely different
than what we normally see from anime, especially nowadays.
Yeah, it's yeah. You have a lot more flat tones.
You have anatomy that's drawn differently.
You have all of that. And so that's sort of what I was
thinking about for for this. It's still a story that's like
very approachable, but it's telling that common,
approachable coming of age story that we get in a lot of anime in
a sort of a different, more unique way.
It's definitely not, you know, blowing all conventions or
anything, but it's also not cookie cutter by any means.
What? What are your thoughts on this
one? Pete no, I agree.
And man, I'm trying to do my best without spoiling it.
But like like you said, it's more of like you do have these
coming of age stories and how do you twist and turn it to make it
unique? And the Tommy Galaxy, to me, is
one that stands out, especially when you have an entire
storyline around a sex doll or something like that, You know,
like, yes. That's that is different.
And I think the big thing that stands out for the Atomic Galaxy
is the art style. You mentioned it before you saw
the director is really known for a specific style of art
direction and animation and that alone to me stands out as
avant-garde. And then you mix in the story
itself and I do really think it's a standout.
It's a staple for this type of theme.
And yeah, I think it's a great starter pick.
Yeah. So I I was deciding between this
and ping pong initially, but so I decided that ping pong like it
does have the the same art style, right?
Because you know as you mentioned this art director has
like a very unique style that you could sort of just tell it's
them immediately. But I think ping pong story is
pretty grounded, right? It's it's just a sports anime
and it maybe it like goes a little deeper than some sports
animes do. But overall it's hitting all of
those same beats and it tells the story in a pretty similar
way. And so that that's how I sort of
came with the atomic Galaxy for that.
One I I agree because ping pong is you know, like 0.
I was just saying 0 to hero. But like you know, that style of
working hard and trying to be the best at something is not
something. Super unique and I think what
ping pong does more stands out is in its animation, whether
that's story or Tautomi. Galaxy I think mixes elements of
more than just animation to make it that avant-garde level.
Yes, an avant-garde is just such a fun word to.
Say it's very fun. The French were really on to
something so my next one is going to be perfect blue.
And honestly, if you're sort of looking for anything like this
at all, you know Satoshi Cone is just a good place to start for
almost all of his movies, to be honest.
Like Paprika is going to give you something similar, as is
anything you watch, I guess maybe not Tokyo Godfathers, but
yeah, so I I went with Perfect Blue because it's it.
I feel like it hits a lot of the.
It's a it's graspable from the sense that it it's a thriller
and it feels like a thriller and it's paced like a thriller and I
I feel like you sort of get that common vibe from it.
However, it again deals with some stuff.
So like 1 main thing here is that you have a very unreliable
narrator and because of that you have like delusion and reality
sort of seamlessly blending into each other at different rates
throughout the story. Which is really cool, you know,
But it's also not the most common way to tell a story.
You know you're not normally supposed to be thinking is what
I'm seeing actually happening. But in a lot of ways these like
sort of you know crime mysteries and stuff do want you
questioning some stuff and what you're presented but maybe not
what you see on screen. So I think this just sort of
takes that concept a step further.
So it's still sort of grounded in its root genre, but it does
it in like a bit of an extra way that's that's more experimental.
You also have, you know sort of time is fluctuates in this.
It's not always completely grounded and at the end there's
still some question about exactly what happened, right.
You don't completely get a closed ending, you know, and
most stories of course have a closed ending.
You know they they end and you know what happened.
And that's not the case here. You know even like to be
continued endings. You know what happened.
Maybe it's it's an open ending, but this one, you're not exactly
sure what happened and so that that makes it, you know, a
little bit unique, but it's still pretty grounded, all
things considered. And you know, that's why I
thought it would be like a good introduction to this.
Pete, you love this anime? What are your What are your
thoughts here? You think it was a good choice?
You know, when you told me that this was going to be one of the
things that you wanted to talk about, I wrote down like what I
was thinking you might do. And I wrote down a Satoshi Cone
movie slash show because. I I think he really does stand
out whether it's Perfect blue, which to me is probably his most
avant-garde show. I think you could pick something
like paprika as well. I think Millennium Actress does
it in a little bit. Paranoia Agent I believe does
does as well. I wouldn't say Tokyo Godfathers,
but I think when you think of like directors, I think we've
hit the two on the head that that stick out to me are Satoshi
Cohen and USA. And I'm I think Perfect Blue is
a great, just absolute fantastic choice of an avant-garde style
show slash movie. Awesome.
Yeah, I I I agree. Which is why I picked it.
That's a good point, you know, But I, I, I think it's good.
And then it's also short, which is nice, right?
Like it's a movie. There's not a lot of commitment
here if you're trying something outside of what you would
normally. Do I?
I agree. I think that's a big thing,
yeah. So my third choice here is
Serial experiments lane. Serial experiments lane honestly
gets pretty freaking weird at times.
Like, I think out of the things that I've listed, it's
definitely the weirdest. And things happen that aren't
clear the most, and you sort of have to understand the theming
and everything of it to put it together.
What's really happening? What is nice and approachable
about serial experiments? This was made in like 2001 or
so, right? Like it was airing during 911.
Because there's that clip of the the text rolling over the OP is
that a lot of the theming and stuff is like about the Internet
and how that'll change humanity. And we've got almost 20 years,
you know, almost 25 years on this to to learn how that
affected humanity, you know? So at the time, it was dealing
with this brand new, not brand new, but very, you know,
relatively new thing that was connecting people.
Computers weren't in everyone's homes, you know, like all of
this stuff. And it was trying to examine how
that would affect humanity. And at the time, right, that was
like a new concept. And they did it in new ways.
And they asked questions that people hadn't asked before.
But now we've asked those questions a lot and people have
answered them in a lot of different ways.
And so I find that subject matter to just sort of be more
approachable. So if you understand like that
theming, which is pretty easy to grasp nowadays, in my opinion,
at least you'll be able to understand Lane, I think pretty
well. But you can still, you know,
you're sort of going in with some of the answers, but there's
still stuff to figure out. And that's why I think it's like
a good beginner choice for something like that, because
it's not dealing with something that's new to you.
You don't have to learn about a concept or deal with something
that's ongoing now. It's something that lots of
people who watch anime have a good grasp on, which is like the
Internet and how that affects the community.
So this is one of the rare shows that I haven't seen, but I think
it'd be really fun to. If you understand that concept
of knowing that, you know this show came out in 2001 and you
have to try to think about the mindset of what it would be like
if you were in 2001 and what they're presenting to you.
I think that's like a really fun idea of like a show in like
today's an age where to me that, like, that would be something I
would love to do for like watch club and like, you know, try to
pick the brain of each other of like try to imagine you're in
the shoes. When I guess in 2001 I was like
7 or something. I don't wait, that was ten.
There we go. I I forgot what year I was born.
And you're older than me. By a little bit, I was.
Just like hold on, hold on. I I could do the math but I I I
do think like even I think it's even if it's a show that maybe
isn't doesn't hold up as well as maybe if it did in 2001.
I think it'd just be fun to have that in your.
Like repertoire to like, think, have that mindset of being able
to think about when the show came out at that time.
So I big thumbs up for me. Yeah, I think it's something
similar to like Akira, right? Where?
It's like it's like very ingrained in when it was
released. Right.
And so you know that I think that's like, it's a good thing
to do and it helps you like apart from this whole Avant
Garden, it's like trying to consume a show and think about
when it was me, you don't have to like, like it, right.
Like you don't have to be like, well, this was good in 1972.
So it it's good, you know, like you can be like, oh, this, this
sucks now, you know, But thinking about why people liked
it, you know, then is is probably a good thing to do.
I think it helps, you know, just be able to consume things
because I I guess like a, a thing that I've been thinking
lately is like nothing is popular for no reason, You know,
like, yeah, like even if I think something is like, bad, there's
a reason people like it and there's reasons people resonate
with it and wondering about that and trying to figure out what it
does well is is important. Like like if an anime came out
now about like say like AI or something like that.
And then in 20 years like who knows what AI is going to be
like. I have AI have an idea, but like
it's probably not even close to what I'm imagining.
And then like looking back at 20 years from now or 20 years in
the past and like? Seeing what we thought at the
time, I think it'd be such a cool concept.
And Lane can do that, since the Internet essentially controls
our lives in some way. OK, and my last one, It's a
pretty controversial choice for an anime.
Yeah, read the Human Echo VN. Wow.
That's wow. Yeah.
So here's the thing. You've watched these first three
and you've decided, fuck it, I love being pretentious.
It's great, You know, you're like, bring me all of this sort
of stuff. I I want everything that's like
weird and not normal. Well, here you have like a three
stacked meta story about writing stories, and each story is a
slightly different story about writing stories.
It's really fucking good. You also get to brag to people
that you did it, and honestly, that's what watching anime is
about. I know you know that you watch
anime so that you can talk to your anime friends about that
you watched anime. In this case, it's like reading.
Who wants to do that? So.
But that gives you extra avant-garde points, You know
what I mean? What a bizarre.
Yeah, like I did. You know, there's this new form
of consuming media where they just have like words and you
read them. And honestly, it's very similar
to watching an anime because you have words and music and there
are characters on screen and the only difference is you have to
Click to change the Subs. Honestly, there's voice acting,
it's it's literally just an anime you have to click a mouse
for. But I think it's a good one
because it does. It's like meta in the way where
the story is about writing stories and the person who's
writing it, and it's like a very interesting way to like examine
that. There is an anime for this, but
it's bad, so I didn't include it, you know?
But I think that it's it's like a very unique way to tell
multiple different stories in such a way like I think things
generally aren't stacked on top of each other.
You either if you have multiple stories, they're generally like
in parallel with each other as opposed to like layered on top
of each other like that. And so I think that is the the
benefit to that, so you. Yeah, yeah, I'm just picturing,
you know, like the meme where like the dude, it's like the the
Galaxy brain meme where like each thing like his brain gets
bigger and bigger and smarter or whatever.
It's like. I watched the anime, I read the
manga, I read the light novel, I read the visual novel.
It's just like, if you want to be pretentious at avant-garde, I
don't know, like how much more you could get to the visual
novel. Like is there anything above
visual novel like writing a book or?
Like, right, right. Yeah, I wrote.
Yeah. Or I visited Hirakawa.
Yeah, I think it depends on what you're like, trying to do,
right? Because like human echo plays
with what the truth is by how things are written and stuff.
So like the fact that it's written is very important to how
it's trying to say things right. And then it also is like self
aware in sort of a way that it like knows that it's a game in
some ways but it doesn't super like it sort of glances there.
It never like completely breaks that and you know, but I think
that you know like reading obviously I feel like gives that
air of you know, but like it depends on what you're trying to
to do and for like what were you Kishi was trying to do?
I think like written is the best way to do that.
But I don't like, you know, for lots of things.
I think that if you had an anime that's just going to be the the
more pretentious way of like watching it.
You know what I mean? Like like Perfect Blue.
Could you imagine, like, the subway scene where she's looking
at the glass, but it's like a manga panel and you like, flip
it? Like that's just not as good,
right? It.
Doesn't hit like, yeah, it wouldn't hit as much.
So this point being, whatever your favorite media is, you 2
can be avant-garde. I love it.
So now we get to the point where I get to critique your list and
where I thought for the most part knows very well I'm.
I'm a little surprised you left out Devil Man Crybaby just
because of how much of A advocate you are for that and
also you can be prestigious by saying you know like A1 anime of
the year it beat my Hero Academia like that's I I swear
that was only get slipped in also for me when I think like my
staple for avant-garde is Fuli Cooley but just like the
allegory of puberty that the story tells I thought that maybe
would get mixed in there and it's also like 6 episodes but I
think the perfect blue can kind of be like that short form,
avant-garde style storytelling that you don't need all these
long running things especially the human echo visual novel so.
Yeah, so I didn't include Devil Man Crybaby because I don't
want. People to be scared off.
That's true. That's a good point.
Like a lot of people have, myself included, but I like,
loved it. Like a very negative reaction to
the ending of that show. People did not like it.
I think it's beautiful. I think it makes perfect sense
and I dropped my score because of it.
Yeah. OK.
So I like. It's the Super fair I need to
like. To go to therapy after it.
That's why I. Gave it a 10.
Only show the baby go to therapy 10 out of 10.
You know, so like for for me and it also, I mean it, it
definitely has like the approachable thing, right?
It's like your standard heroes story, just sort of different.
But there's also, like, I mean, I don't there's a lot of sex in
it. There's necrophilia in it.
There's. A lot.
I mean it. I I don't necessarily think it's
like the world's most approachable thing.
You know what I mean? Like, I could show, you know, I
like my dad, and I could watch serial experiments.
Lane, you might think it's, like, weird, but he wouldn't
judge me for it. You know, if I showed my dad my
dad, Devil man Crybaby, he'd be like, yeah, the demon order
seed. Yeah, that might get a little.
Yeah, yeah, the yeah, there's a few things on there.
You just be like, OK, pal, this is innovate weirdo.
Yeah for fully Cooley, you know I don't I don't know why I
didn't pick it. I think that I I just don't
resonate with it as much like I did enjoy it I I think I even
gave it a pretty high score but like it doesn't really like hit
for me the way that that these did and.
I get it. That's a really good choice
though. You're right.
Like that's a lot of people's like first sort of like out
there anime and it helps like it was on a Toonami and stuff like
that. Yeah, no, but I mean, that's
that's a very good choice for it, right?
Like, it's got evocative, memorable scenes.
It tells things in sort of like a unique and weird way.
Like a freaking TV comes out of the dude's head.
Like, yeah, that's that's a very good choice.
Cool. All right, well, that's Miles
first one. Now I'm going to pass it over
back to me. So are you sick of the typical
middle school, high school student, council hand holding,
blushing, that style of storytelling where it's like
where are your parents? So that's why I'm labeling my
theme as is where are you parents?
These are going to be shows with an adult themed and adult cast.
The first one I have up also I I did this a little differently
because when you have like when you recommend anime to like
you're the first people do you want recommend them peak or do
you want to recommend them like an 8 out of 10 and I'm going to
start with an 8 out of 10. So my first one is called Wave
Listen to me it is a story where I think a lot of people will get
this. A girl gets broken up by her
boyfriend and she goes out for drinks and she's very upset to
the point where she blacks out and hi jinx ensues.
But what she finds out the next morning was that she was at a
bar talking to this guy drunk rambling, talking about
relationships and this guy is a radio producer and he likes her
story so much he's like we need to put you on the radio.
So if she starts her own like relationship style radio show
based off of her breakup and it it has really fun elements
because she's able to do like her or show at like 3:00 in the
morning. So it can be a little bit more I
I want to say like risque but like a little bit more adult
themed, a little bit more. The concepts are a little bit
more adult where if kids were listening you're not allowed
like the swear type of thing. It's like when TV shows at 10:00
and the kids can or the the shows can swear on NBC or
something like that. And it's an overall just a wild
hijinks style show where the lead character is just this I
would say emotional wreck. But she is definitely in a
vulnerable state and having this opportunity to express herself
on the radio she starts getting like a following.
And yeah it's just it's just a show that honestly I it's one of
like the only ones that I know of that does something like
this. The the female voice actress is
one of the best voice acting performances like ever for me in
anime. I think it's incredible.
The biggest problem with the show though is like it kind of
like has an abrupt ending and the the needs more content and
it's like go read the manga type of thing.
But I think if you're looking for adult cast and you just want
to like laugh and have a good time with like drunk idiots,
there's not many shows like this.
I definitely recommend Wave. Listen to me, What do you think,
Miles? Yeah, so as a big expert on
wave, listen to me, a show I had definitely heard of before 34
seconds ago. Yeah, I don't know.
So I have some questions, but I'm going to save them for the
end of your list. So I mean this this does seem
like like a very like the what I expected from this list so far,
but I do, I do have some questions.
So, but I want to see what the rest of your list is like.
OK, so the second one that I'm recommending is like Peak Level
Adult Cast. It's a show that we have
reviewed on this show. It's actually a show that we
haven't tied for a highest rated show ever.
And that's odd taxi. So odd Taxi.
I I think it's just an incredible adventure of fun.
Mystery hijinks. The the adult cast as Oh my God,
how do I say that word? They're animals.
There we go. English is not my strong suit
and what starts off as like a a pickup in a taxicab leads to a a
series of events that the night just gets more and more wild and
more and more crazy as as the days insist.
It's one of like it was like an anime of the year contender when
it was released in 2021. Everybody on the podcast loves
it. I think it's this maybe even
could have been like in the avant-garde section maybe but
Odd Taxi to me is just I I don't know if I've ever met a person
who didn't like Odd Taxi. That, that, that's the that's
what I'm getting at with this adult theme.
Miles, you have any thoughts on this or should I go to the next
one? You know, I love this because I
would have not thought of this as like an adult cast show in a
million years, even though that's a hunt.
You're like, you're 100% correct, but they're animals.
So I just wouldn't have considered it.
But I I really like this, this choice I right.
You have people working jobs from different walks of life.
You get like a wide breadth of, you know, human experiences in
this. And you deal with like a lot of
I guess adult sort of issues and stuff and then also that like
one kid who's in it. But yeah, no, I I love this
choice. I think it's great.
Good job because that's what I got.
I think this this fits in and I I like your category because you
can get so diverse with it, right?
You know, it's definitely something that's like missing
from anime, like a. Continual amount of good adult
cash shows, but they're also super diverse.
I think as you're showing us now, awesome.
OK, moving on to the next one. Do you like head tilts?
Do you like Studio Shaft? Do you like Monogatari but you
hate the pedophilia? Well, I got the show for you.
So brave. So, I mean, why are you booing
me? I'm right.
I thought about doing. Baqim under Guthrie for my
avant-garde section as well. OK, so think of that, but with
an adult cast. The show is called Arcala Under
the Bridge. It is a story about a adult
salary man who's like this multi millionaire who gets enamoured
with a girl who claims to be an alien who lives underneath a
bridge. She's essentially homeless.
So he's so enamored with it. He decides to move.
Also underneath the bridge. He sort of like builds himself a
penthouse in like the bridges, like rafters.
It's kind of cool, but the story takes place underneath the
bridge where it's like a cast of characters and misfits all
coming together. And they all have like their own
unique like issues, but it's done in like a funny way.
So like for example there is like this failed musician who
wears a star head and he he wants to be a musician but he's
he's ashamed of his past because he failed as a musician.
So he hides himself under like literally wearing a mask.
So it has like these themes of that's just like 1 theme of like
failure as an adult and there's a bunch of these different
characters in it. There's like a male nun who
wields like dual Beretta's and shoots people it it's really
wacky. So, like, if you like the
storytelling and wackiness of Monogatri, but more of like an
adult theme with like problem solving, I really recommend
Aracal Under the Bridge. I know, Miles, you never, I
don't even know if you've heard of it.
But what What are you thinking so far this one?
Yeah. So I'm going to, I'm going to
follow up with the question, do you have me intrigued by this?
I mean, I like head tilts and I don't like pedophilia.
So like that's. I mean, those were the.
Those are the two things. That's where I got.
Them. Yeah, you you for sure you got
me there. This kind of like, I don't know,
the 1st, and this is contrary to your point, but the first thing
it reminds me of is like Hina Matsuri, just from your.
Oh yeah, a little bit, yeah. Yeah, like, I mean, just based
off of the keywords, right, that I pulled the homeless alien,
they are both homeless aliens, yes, Yeah.
But yeah, no, I this is this is interesting.
I have I have a plane flight Maybe I'll I'll watch this
instead of shows that people keep on telling me to watch.
I think it's also Aragi's voice actor does it so it's like very
Monogatri esque. The art style is very similar.
It doesn't have like the same like word play that they do in
like the Monogatri series with like the panels.
But it is a very fun and I personally think it's a unique
style of storytelling with like these adult themes all everybody
sort of like having this problem and like some are like some like
choose to be homeless and some of them but like are homeless.
So like that idea. I feel like another like Hina
Matri thing where it's this like it has cool themes just it's I
don't want to spoil too much without saying but if that
piques your interest I definitely check out our account
under the bridges too. And the last one that I'm going
to recommend is actually a show that came out last season that I
absolutely fell in love with. And I I find it a theme because
I wrote on a fifth one that with my cast, adult cast, I'm a big
fan of like mystery when it with an adult cast.
I think you can do a lot of fun when you have an adult cast and
it's called undead girl Murder farce.
It takes place in the world with like Lupin and Frankenstein and
Dracula and like those literary themes whilst all solving these
different types of mysteries together.
So the main dude is an Oni, the main girl is an immortal human
kind of person, but like, she lost her body.
But since she's immortal, she can just live by only being a
severed head. And it's their journey together,
solving a mystery that they were hired to do.
And yeah, just the mix between like literary characters, I
think it makes it a lot of fun. The action's great.
The OP is one of the best of the year and I to me it just it
serves a great niche that I think is missing in like
seasonal anime with with mystery where I think we get like 1A
year that like really stands out.
And to me this is the one that stood out to me this year.
I think like previous years like Moriarty, the Patriot and I also
mentioned Odd Taxi, we usually get like one per year and this
is mine this year. So I highly, highly recommend a
fun adult fee adult cast like Comedy Mystery and those are my
4. Wow, I think.
I can't believe that I haven't been pushed to watch this more.
Oh, you should have watched my review or I gave it a nine.
That would have spoiled it for me that that's maybe true.
OK, so my question for you, one, like all these shows.
Two, very impressed that you didn't put any workplace
comedies. I think like everybody's already
seen like Waldo Koi, and if we're doing like
recommendations, I also don't think Waldo Koi is necessarily
like a good one because if you're new to anime, otaku
culture, I think can be a little confusing.
Yeah, that's true. I wasn't new to anime and it was
still a little confusing for me. Two things I guess I would ask.
One, what do you think makes these approachable from like,
OK, you're trying to get out of like your standard thing?
And then two, how many of these shows, 'cause I think I've only
seen none of them. Is that correct?
I, I think, no, you've seen out tax, are you?
Yes. I've seen on Taxi.
Yeah. OK.
So I've seen, I've only seen one of them.
And I I like, I think on Taxi is like super approachable, right?
Like it's a, it's a mystery like this, right?
And it follows a Western sort of style and everything.
So I I love that. And you were talking about how
undead girl murder farce has like common literary figures and
stuff that you're like, familiar with.
So that that's for sure approachable.
Like, So what? How?
What percentage of these shows do you think necessitate an
adult cast? Oh necessitates an adult cast.
Yeah, you know what I mean Cause like a lot of the like shows
could and I haven't seen a lot of these, right?
Like I think odd taxing necessitates an an adult cast.
They're like primarily because you have, like, he has a day
job. That's how you get around.
He's interacting with people with that job.
He has a friend who's sort of like bumming off of him and
stuff and like they're not in school or, you know, like the
fact that they have nowhere to be during periods of time
matters, you know? But sometimes I I would get like
your first show. Wave something.
Listen to me. Wave, listen to me.
Feels like it could in theory, take place in high school a
little bit. Because, like, the big thing
about it is especially the first episode is like the aspect of
drinking, like getting black. I think we've all been blackout
drunk before. Every single person, every
single person that is of age, has been blackout drunk before.
But I think it has like those elements of like a breakup
expressing yourself. And then I I think in this one,
it's it's the the rebound aspect of a breakup.
And this is more of like her coming to terms with it and then
a rebounding in a way that instead of fighting a new
relationship, it's expressing yourself through this radio
show. And I I think I I guess when it
comes to like all these shows, the big thing for me from what
I've seen and what I've interacted with is just people
who maybe, you know, like something like Kagya.
To me, it's a great show. It's super funny.
I like the romance, but a lot of people just don't like the fact
that it's set in high school. I think like the idea of just
having an adult cast in a show is the selling point and like
that's what makes it like what people are looking for.
I I think necessarily the the genre doesn't necessarily have
to be 1 specific thing. I think it's just looking for
something that people can relate to, especially like people in
like our community that's a little bit older, but they just
want an adult cast and then that and that's it.
And you do you think that like it handle because like 1
criticism I would throw at like woe to Koi is that I don't think
they necessarily handle their issues like adults all the time
And so like for this for this show.
So this is this is I asked you a bad question.
So the the good question would be that's a good question.
Well, I I think that like, you can differentiate.
Like, sure, that show could be in high school, right?
It could be about a high school girl who breaks up and then
joins the radio club and then right.
Like, and that's about the same show, you know, and high
schoolers drink sometimes, but like not much in Japan from from
anime's perspective. I don't.
I don't see them getting drunk a lot, but I think that might be
more. Optics.
Yeah, but I guess like, you think that these characters
handle an act like adults. Yeah, I I it does definitely
have, you know, I think they do sprinkle in, you know, the the
anime where it's a little comedic.
It's a little over the top in some aspects where there's still
that style of anime that's not going to be like a live action
drama. It's still going to have like
the silliness, I feel like, of an anime where something like
our cow under the bridge is while it's dealing with, I think
real issues that people deal with, whether in the show it's
little spoilers. People deal with like depression
and like losing your job and stuff like that.
They still make it in a way where you're having fun with the
show because like the characters are fun and I think that's like
what anime does. So it in a way sort of like your
water coy thing. Where do they handle it like
adults? Not really, because I still
think there's like that anime element to it, but I still think
for the most part you get enjoyment out of it being like
75% real to like what you're thinking if it was like real
life. So yeah, it's kind.
Of like that. I think that's fair, right?
Because, like, I don't know if you've ever watched like The
Office, right? But the most overrated TV show
of all time? That's an insane thing to say.
I stand by that. I hate that show.
Man, How I Met Your Mother exists, so Seinfeld exists so
many. Well, Seinfeld the the first
like three seasons of Seinfeld are bad.
And then it gets good, and then it gets bad again.
OK. You can say that with The
Office, right? At first, I don't know.
I watched one episode, The Office.
I dropped it. That was it of season one.
OK, anyways, I'm like you know, like season one is bad.
My anime takes are bad. You should see my TV
recommendation. Watch scrubs watch parks and OK
that what how they're so parks rec is better there's it's so
much better. I'm not opposed to that take.
I think it's wrong but I enough people I know have like an
office thing. It's it's a so far you like
where it's you know like White does something stupid and Jim
looks at the camera. It's like, oh, OK and the Jim?
I'm Leslie. Nope.
I love Parks. I'm Ron.
I love libertarianism. Yes, I'm Aziz Ansari.
I'm hip, yo. Treat yourself.
I did it. I did the show.
You did it, man. I love that show, so I don't
want to hate on it too much. It's like my top five though.
I fucking love Parks and. Rec Anyway, so Parks and Rec is
a perfect example, right? Like their caricatures, they're
funny, but they're still adults, right?
Like. Yeah, except for anti Parks and
Rec is an anime. Yeah, for sure.
Anyways, that brings me to my next recommendation for Anime
Parks and Rec. Oh, good choice.
It's good choice. Yeah, absolutely.
OK, so. As I've talked to people about
shows and stuff, I found that people hate giant robots.
They do, They do, and it ruins whole shows for them.
But then I've talked to the same people and they actually love
giant robots, and they have a bunch of shows with giant robots
in them and their favorite shows of all time.
And so I have tried to figure out where this disconnect comes
from. So my starter pack is mech
shows. People who hate mecha shows, I
love this. So we're going to we're going to
go in what I consider the order of least Mecca to most Mecca.
But all of this should be approachable, even if you don't
like giant robots that much, or if you you've tricked yourself
into thinking that you don't like giant robots.
So first 86, you mean 43? 438086 I hate to break to all
y'all, but 86 is is the Mecca. There are Mecs in it.
They're just not humanoid and that's a big thing for some
people. So that's that's why I've
included here. Pete is a known 86 hater.
I am a known 86. Thought it was good or yeah, I
enjoyed it, but I think there's a lot of.
Stuff. And a lot of people like it for
a reason. You have some pretty good
character work, you have great cinematography, you have really
hype moments. There's a lot of times that I
felt like I was really invested in characters and everything,
and then I thought about it more and I decided that I wasn't.
But at the time of watching it, I I really did think I was
invested in these characters. You know, and so I think you
would have a lot of human elements in this.
You know, it's not the show is very much not about the mechs in
almost any way. There's a few things about them,
how they work, you get some diagrams, the enemy army's like
sort of self autonomous spider mechs or whatever.
But I think that what you mostly have here is a character drama
with like a backdrop of some mechs.
So if you wanted to watch 86 but that mecha tag sort of scared
you off. Give it a go is what I would
say. We're all playing Miles Bingo
with this one. So I wrote down that the four
shows that I thought you were going to list and right now
we're shooting 100% because I also agree.
Whereas I put my personal bias aside, I think 86 is a great
starter or starter pack anime for you know the the Mecca fans
who or the non Mecca fans who actually like Mecca but they
don't know type of thing. Yeah, 86 is a great choice.
OK, so #2 for me is code GEOS 2 for two.
Let's go. I I think you might get fucked
on the 4th 1:00. We'll find out, because my 4th
one is a little a little different too.
Oh. OK so code geos again.
I am so sorry everyone, it's a Mecca.
Show there are mecca's and they actually care about them a
little bit. They even have.
Some special Mecas for the main characters, they have names for
them, right? Like you have your Nightmare
units and then like you have the Lancelot, which is the special
one. So there's there's stuff there.
However, there's a lot of stuff going on outside of the Mecca
and the Mecca. There aren't like a ton of Mecca
fights or anything in this. There are some, but there's a
lot. Kodakas is actually just Death
Note, right? Like, oh, that's a that's an
interesting cake. I haven't heard that one.
Where it's like you have like the sort of like psychological
drama with someone who has you know, who's like super big
brained and Lelouch who's trying to get this very lofty goal, you
know, And he's using his sort of ability to do that and he puts
his brains against other people's.
But he's got a little bit of an advantage and the advantage
isn't. The mech.
His mech isn't even that good compared to his enemies, Max.
So while mechs are used in the army and they're like an
important plot piece and everything, they're not, we're
not showing off mechs here, right?
Like this isn't the whole thing here.
So I I think that again, you know if you've heard a lot of
good things about codegios, but that mecha tag that makes you a
little not want to watch codegios.
I would say give it a go. There's a lot of time between
MEX and this. Lots of the action doesn't
include the MEX. You know, it's not a commercial
for model kits even though I have a Lancelot model kit, you
know, so that that's my thought. I think there's a lot to the
show. It's pretty long and.
In that there's not a ton of neck density.
What is your thought here, Pete? I mean, you agreed, right?
So I I agree because I I do think that the mechs comes
second to like the magic in the world, while I think the focus
is on the geos itself and the mechs are more of the tool of
solving the conflict outside of what can't be solved by the
geos. And I because like I'm in the
camp of, I don't mind mechs. Like I don't actively search out
mechs shows. I will watch them and for the
most part I enjoy them. And Kogias to me is one that
absolutely stands out when I I feel like when the mechs aren't
the focus and you kind of get them in like burst, that's when
I enjoy it the most And Kogias for me does that and I also
wrote down on my list on 2 for two.
So I absolutely love that pic. Yeah, I that that's that's where
I'm at. Like I to me like I've never
understood personally like and I get everyone has things that
that they don't like or whatever and like that's super fine.
I'm not telling you what to like or not but I am.
I'm going to do it right now. Yeah, hold on.
Like like settings aren't genres and I've just never been
bothered by a setting personally.
And like tools or so you know what I mean.
It's like. And we know people who are like,
I don't like swords, but like not liking Mex has always been
to me. Like I don't like shows with
swords on them. And it's like I like robots.
It just seems yeah, it just seems like weird to me.
Oh, I think I OK. If if you get, don't tell me
what your guesses were because I think I have guesses for what
your guesses were. If if that doesn't work, so the
third one I have and I'm gonna need your assistant with this
because I have not watched this show.
Oh, wow. OK.
But this is just based off my experience with people who say
they don't like Meccas and then also love this show.
And this show is Gurren Lagann. So what I do know about Gurren
Lagann? Is that the mechs are kind of a
giant deal in this I see scaling.
Now I have a theory and you can tell me if I'm right or not on
this for why I think people who normally say they don't like
mecha like Gurren Lagann SO1. Gurren Lagann, by all accounts
is a very, very, very good show, and people will forgive a lot
for a good show 2. The scaling that I have seen for
the Mex Unger and Lagann is so fucking absurd and insane that I
think it stops counting. I think it's not actually about
robots anymore. It's about.
I feel like we can spoil this by now.
The the final episode, They fight God, essentially.
Yeah, so, like, there we go. I didn't know that, but it makes
sense from what I have been spoiled on.
So, like, that's my thought. You know, like.
That it it stops. It's so ungrounded that any
amount of suspension of disbelief that would be blown
for someone just watching like a normal Mecca show is so blown by
what Kern Mcgahn is doing that it doesn't even matter anymore
because the intention is to just keep scaling right with the Mac.
Yes, there are so many other elements involved with Gurlagon
that I think that's what resonates with people because
the glow up of Simone from the first part to the second part in
his like coming of age is one of the best in anime.
I I love adult Simone. It's it's such a refreshing
storytelling of that coming of age where we see him.
I think. I think it's like 7 years for
the first part of the second part, like that really resonates
with me with it, the romance is Oh my God, it's so good, It's so
good. There's so many, there's so many
other elements in Guru Lagan that makes it stand out.
Where I think it's kind of like Code Geass where the the mechs
are like the vessel for everything else.
Where yes, the conflicts are solved by like the violent
conflicts are solved through the mechs, but I don't think that's
the focal point. If that makes it's it's hard to
say because you haven't seen it, but I think the people who have
seen it know exactly what I'm talking about.
Yeah, I mean that makes sense to me.
Now which one do you think? Kodgios or 'cause?
I'm trying to put these in Lee spec focus to most spec focused
for my recommendations. So did I place Gurin Lagan
correctly after Kodgios? I think.
I think they're interchangeable. I think they both have like
other elements in the story where the mech isn't as
important. There's just like the girl
Lagann is like, you know, it's like their transport vessel is
the robot. So like it's like a it's a much
bigger part of the story. So maybe it'd be two, I don't
know. But it's close.
It's interchangeable. OK.
So I guess you're 2 for three currently, right?
A2 for three. I was.
I I'll try to say it now. But no.
So I'm I'm going to do my 4th one it could be. 2 for two for
two. I didn't.
Did Girly Gone have been hard to guess because I haven't seen it
and you know I haven't seen it. Well, I was close.
I'll tell you after why. OK, because you thought I was
going to say Evangelion, I did not, actually.
Oh, OK, there's one. Yeah, that was way more
promising than Ava for you. Oh yeah, OK, so this is where
the there the trick, the trick one comes in back on Titan, so.
Ratatouille. So this one is going to be very
mechi. I'm going to say a word that's
going to scare a lot of people who don't like mecha.
Let's start with the G Or it does.
It starts with the G, So I'm going to go with Mobile Suit
Gundam Iron Blooded Orphans, OK? Yeah.
So the reason I didn't pick Witch from Mercury, which is
what I think you're thinking of right now is, is because the
aerial as a suit is so important to that story and how it was
made. And like 1/3 of it is people
debating what Gundams are and what mechs are and how they're
different and they go to the mechs school.
I got so caught up in lesbians that I just, I blocked all that
out. Yes, fair enough.
I mean, me too, you know? And I love that show.
But if like giant humanoid robots scare you, that show is
about giant humanoid robots in almost every possible way.
So you know, that's not my pick. I think you're missing out.
But also, I'm not here to force things you don't like on you.
This one is about giant humanoid robots though.
But IBOI feel like. Is it's about this group of kids
from Mars, which is like in this world, sort of like downtrodden
and sort of like a colony of Earth.
They're trying to get their independence and they make some
deals with like the space yakuza and it's about their rise and
their fall. And so the mechs are prominent
on This is a Gundam Show. I'm not going to Lie to you, but
there's a lot of character work. There's character dramas,
There's multiple episodes in a row where no one gets in a mech.
You know, and there's good personal story and everything
like this. It's basically your traditional
sort of like mob story, You know, like Goodfellas, but with
giant robots. And no offense to IBOI love it.
Not as good as Goodfellas, I'll say.
Is there a soft scene in IBO? Yeah.
You know there is like a like a scene similar to like the
getting made scene. Yeah, like, I mean IBO is like
pretty good. But I also think that, you know,
I know a lot of people who don't really even like, interact with
anime a ton who really enjoyed IBO because, you know, not
because of the giant robots, but because of the sort of like
underdog story that you get from this.
You know, one downside on this is that the story gets a little
loopy at the end. Like not even like mech wise
just sort of like. The way a lot of Gundam stories
do where they just don't know how to tie it up.
But it's an anime thing. You were expecting a bad ending
here or there. So Pete, I know you haven't seen
this one. I've not seen IPO.
Yeah. So basically, I, I, I, I wanted
to do a Gundam 1 to be like a little edgy.
Like, not actually edgy because it's like one of the most
popular franchises of all time. But I'm specifically trying to
like recommend Mecca shows for people who don't really like
Gundam. Is like that's like the theme on
this and so I wanted to throw a Gundam out there.
So two shows. So I you thought I would have
Witch from Mercury on here I did.
I wrote down G Witch. Yeah, So yeah, again, the reason
I didn't do that is because the entire story is basically about
a A Gundam, like very front and centre.
It's like the thing you are correct.
I guess for me is just all the fan art that I like is just
Mirin and Suletta and I'm just so focused on them and not the
actual Becca that I forgot it was a Becca.
I was talking to Emily about this, and she was like, it's a
shame that the show ended up being boring.
And I was like, it's like my favorite show ever.
But I don't blame you because like, seven of the episodes are
just a business meeting about Gundams.
And then she was like, I would watch a show about Suletta and
her wife. Like a slice of life one and I
was like me too and I give it a 10 and I think a lot of people
want that right. But I do think that it's like
good as the characters are and stuff like you do have a the
whole episode that's just a Gundam business pitch meeting
right. Like it's yeah, I don't know.
It's like Shark Tank, but for Gundams where I I think that the
Gundams are, while still prominent, sort of a bit back
more in IPO. Now I'm trying to guess what the
4th 1:00 it was really close to Gurren Lagann.
Oh, it was close to Gurren Lagann.
OK. Was it like pro mare?
It was pro mare. OK.
Yeah we did a move one of the
short form slash movies with your first one.
So I kind of did that as well. Whereas like a movie and I
thought Pro Mare was a good example of because like they in
the beginning, like they use their MEC to like fight
fighters, like it's it's different.
Yes. The reason I want to put Pro Mer
on here is 'cause I don't like Pro Mer.
Yeah, And I've Yeah, see, I saw Pro Mer on like a four or like a
IMAX screen where it was. It blew me away so much by its
technicality that I gave it a nine.
I think if I rewatch it, I'd probably give it A7.
But don't rewatch. I won't.
It's the same reason why I've never rewatched Toradora.
Like I have that special memory in my head, and that's where
that's where it's living. OK.
So how do you think I did on
this, Pete? Yeah, no, it was good.
I think you had to include like a Gundam esque show that people
can find other elements to it. Kogias or a six definitely makes
sense to me because I think the themes of that are more
important than the actual mech. And I think that's what people
who don't like mechs are looking for, essentially.
And then, yeah, I I guess pro mare and you guessed Gurlagan or
you said Gurlagan. So I love it because that's what
I was thinking to do. Yeah, I I for a second I thought
you might have thought that I had trapped in a dating SIM on
here, which I I always argue slash forget that there are
Becks in that show. And they're a big deal.
It's a huge deal. I just always forget.
Yeah that see this is my thing like I think people secretly do
like Mecca. Like that's that's that's why I
made this category that like they you don't have to like all
Mecca. You don't need to like Mecca
where like Mecca are the major theme and it's like.
Upfront and everything. But like, you also like anime
with swords in them, and that's OK too, you know?
That's how I view it, yeah. Good list, good list.
I'm going to close things out with AI.
Thought this would just be fun. So if you're involved in like
anti Twitter or you're on anime discords or some form of forum
board, shipping is a big deal. People love to ship characters,
and while I don't think it's bad at all, there are a lot of
people who hate it. So if you ever want to get
involved into the shipping community, these are the shows
for you. First up, I think it's a show
that is by far the most popular in terms of the shipping
category, where it's a show that has zero romance in the show and
Miles hates it. It's high Q.
It's not even like it's not even coded in anything, but it to me,
on my experience on like Twitter and Discord, it is by far the
most talked about shipping of characters ever.
Like people? Oh man, people are really
emotional and very passionate about their ships in high Q.
I don't know if it's because, Miles, you don't live on Twitter
like I do, but yeah, this is a big one just based on your
reaction. I was expecting My Hero Academia
when you were talking about it, a show with, as far as I know,
basically zero romance that there's like a lot of shipping
for. Yeah, there is.
Now when you said it, this made a lot of sense to me, except for
I do think there are. There's like technically I don't
know if I would call it romance, but like all the guys like the
one girl in the show, Yeah, I but that's not like.
That's that's not who's getting shipped together.
Well, people do ship her with a bunch of people.
Oh, really? OK.
It it's, yeah. So I I don't want to say manga
spoilers or anything like that, but so there is a relationship
at Haiku at the end, I'll just say that.
OK, yeah, that that makes sense. They're like, OK, if I had to, I
would ship Kaguyama and Okawa together.
Oh, I like that one. Yeah.
What are your ships? Yeah, that's what I so OK, so
Kaguyama and Okawa for sure. I would ship.
Oh, I think like Tanaka is probably who I would pick for
the manager lady. OK.
Because he he seems like the most persistent and like in
probably like a toxic way. But like a lot of shows like
paying that off, you know what I mean?
I would ship, I think. I think that's like Hina Tut in
her early grave for sure. Wow.
Hina tut in a DVD on how to play volleyball.
Yeah, like. Yeah, but no, I I definitely get
that. I think that you know what?
I bet also has a ton of shipping blue lock.
Oh yeah, I bet so too. I but I think that's more like,
I don't know how it is in the West.
I bet it's because it's like how popular it is in Japan.
I bet it's huge. But I think in the West I for
sports anime, for me it's heavily haiku.
Oh, I bet IA 100% bet. OK, it's you're gonna sense a
theme. I think my hero's good.
The theme of this is a lot of like larger cast with a lot of
interactions between each other and.
I would guess I'm gonna make a guess here.
Not a lot of romance in it, 'cause I bet that, like, people
seek that out. Like they want romance and so
they they add it into places where it doesn't exist.
I all four of my shows do not have the romance tag, so that is
a good call out. I didn't even think about that.
That's a good one. The next one is it's so it's so
gay coded. I think that's what gets people
into this community and that's, I don't think IQ is gay coded.
Skate the Infinity is super gay coded like so much.
So where people love, love should be the character.
There's so much fan art of these characters together where I
think if you're a big fan of this, I think the show itself is
also OK. But I think people gravitate to
the show for one specific reason and I think it's that.
So if you, if you haven't seen Skate and you like shipping,
people recommend Skate. OK.
The next one's a little controversial because the story
ships the characters for you. But if you like drama and want
to break the mold of what the show tells you to like, and I
think this is the one for you, You've seen it, Miles.
I've seen it. It's Review Starlight.
OK yeah. So the story itself, you know,
each girl sort of has like a partner that they are battling
most of the time, whether it's like friends or rivals.
And so the show sort of tells you that these two are sort of
shipped together if you're into that.
But the bolt breaking the mold of shipping the like the
characters that the show tells you outside of that makes the
fandom go crazy. And that's why I recommend if
you want some spice in your shipping, I would recommend
watching review Starlight and then shipping characters that
the show does not tell you the ship.
I that's crazy because like I I don't think I would break a lot
of those pairs. I know.
So when you do, you can imagine. Yeah, like, I guess I could
break some of them. Like, mostly it was just like
the president and her little fan girl that I shipped.
So I I don't know if you, if you're not shipping them
together, fucking watch out. You understand me?
I'll find you. I was very passionate now.
I I really care about the ships and review Starlight.
You should watch the movie 'cause it adds more elements to
that, where I think if you watch the show you only have like a
taste of the ship. The the movie adds so much more.
And this this is the drama, spice shipping, this is the show
for you. You want the drama.
Get invested in the show and get on Twitter and or Tumblr or
wherever these fans are. Tumblr and start shipping.
Last one. Here we go.
This one's a little different and I don't think it's gonna be
on your bingo card or anybody else's bingo card, but to me,
it's a show that has a huge cast and I would say 0 romance.
And that's what makes the shipping fun.
Like. Negative.
Romance negative. Romance.
Because the story does not deal with.
I would say the characters themselves don't even have a
gender. That is the land of the Lustre,
Yes? Yes.
Which? What pair of rocks do you ship
together? Are you a cinnabar diamond guy
or are? You a diamond bort, right
diamond bort. Yeah, that's the ship, right?
Oh, I'm a Yellow Diamond Bort guy.
Oh, OK, yeah. So this is where we get the
drama. This is like, this is like your
personal ship where like you keep this to yourself.
You write the fan fiction about it because nobody really talks
about Land Illustrious in terms of the the anime.
The bog is still like ongoing but they make a one chapter
every six months type of thing. But I love the idea that you
have this large cast of like non binary characters with no
romance. It's not even an essential part
of the story at all. But they have interactions and
they have conversations where you can sort of maybe build a
rapport together and ship them each one, whatever one.
Like Miles said, Diamond and Bort together, or Cinnabar and
Foss and stuff like that. I I think it's a very fun show
to ship because it's unique in niche.
You gave me a look, Miles. What are you thinking?
That was your OK, so one, I like all of your picks, but I think I
think you're missing like something that you need if
you're trying to get into shipping.
OK, what's that? Tell me.
And you're missing a harem show. Oh, you're right.
Oh, how dumb, bro. I'm sorry, I missed the mark.
You absolutely need a harem. Yeah.
So, like, you have all these really good, well thought out,
but I I think your next level. You know, this isn't our
intermediate shipping pack. I'm a holding cell, bro.
I'm a holding. You know, we need like quints on
here or fucking something, you know?
You know what? If this is a starter pack, I
would, if I could go back in time, like 15 minutes from now,
I'd pick Nisa Koi. That to me, that's what started
like the harem shipping battles for me when I just got
introduced to anime, because that show is trash.
But picking best girl in that show was a conversation that
will live with me for the rest of my life.
I'm going to OK here I I I have a lot of ideas on and I never
knew how much I cared about this.
But I we're learning. Yes.
OK here are some shows that I think you should have picked and
this is not to say any of your choices were bad.
I liked all of them. I do think I should have had to
hear them though. I agree, yeah.
So you should have had Neon Genesis, even Kelly on right
that started. The shipping wars in some way.
I don't know. It was least the 1st prominent
1. So you you have who do you?
You know there's a ton of options there, but everyone has
a side, right? They have Shinji and Ray, Shinji
and Oscar, Shinji and Therapy, Shinji and the adult woman that
he lives with. Those are the choices.
So.
I also think Toradora would have been a good choice here now,
obviously very common, so I get why you don't include that.
That's just like a quintessential anime that maybe
everyone's already seen, but I think that that's another one
where you have, like, you know, like in our Discord, each
possible pair for Yuji is represented by.
That's true. Right.
And so then you have. You know, people who chip,
Ryuji's friend, who stop smattering in the second-half of
the anime. And so, you know, there's a lot
of different options there. And then there's some people who
take the chaos and pick the mom. You know, they're just like it
is I I ship his mom with me. You know it's something, Trent
would say. Have you been read by Fan
Fiction? What?
You know, so I think those would be good choices.
Again, I like all of yours. I think yours are.
I think maybe you're just too into shipping and you pick some
like next. Well, haiku is pretty basic, but
then you pick some like next level sort of stuff.
Food wars, I think, would be a good choice.
Not bad, not bad. Yeah, I just feel like you could
do this with anything. Actually.
I'm like pretty pro shipping. Like I'm not in any shipping
communities or anything. Like I don't ever talk about it.
I just do it in my head. But like, I like doing it.
I think it's fun. It is fun.
You know, so OK, so I went three for four.
I'll take, you know, we take those dubs.
We take those dubs. OK, Well, I think that concludes
it. I actually had a lot of fun with
this episode, kind of a new and unique, I just say unique, but a
new thing for us that we're trying out.
Let us know if you liked it, if you disagree with our takes, if
you agree with our takes, if you want to see something along
these lines, again, let us know. Well, yeah, I think we're good.
You got any final words or thoughts before you head out?
No, just I hope you enjoyed the episode.
I had a lot of fun just talking to anime.
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we're doing maybe world building or something along those lines
for an episode, so. Oh cool.
That's pending. But I I'd like it, that idea.
So we'll find you'll you'll find out in two weeks what we did.
So I want to say thank you Miles for joining me and thanks
everyone out there for listening and we will see you next time.
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