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Home me now I'm finally 
fulfilled. 

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This is what my heart's been 
waiting for. 

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Home me, now I'm finally 
fulfilled. 

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Pick me up to dance and pick me 
up again 'cause. 

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I Hello, ladies and gentlemen, 
welcome to Anime Watch Club, a 

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biweekly group discussion and 
review. 

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We're the host of the Way State 
Anime podcast. 

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Nominate and vote on shows that 
we haven't seen or shows the 

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hope to lead to a great 
discussion. 

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Let's see this episode the I 
don't know if it's the drugs I'm

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taking or the drugs I need to 
take to watch this show. 

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What's the booze of the way 
State Anime podcast? 

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We'll be reviewing the 2014 
comedy Sagebu. 

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Let's meet today's airsoft 
enthusiast first up, he's the 

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reason why we watch this show 
and I think a few of us are 

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going to thank him and a few of 
us are going to strangle him. 

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We got cat cat. 
How's it going? 

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I'm. 
Doing great. 

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It's almost the end of my first 
month as the director of my 

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company and mentally I'm doing a
lot better. 

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And also, I love bad shows, and 
this was so much fun. 

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I don't think this show's bad, 
but yeah. 

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Yeah, I was gonna say I like the
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people might not. 
I Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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We're not at that point. 
Yet. 

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Not yet, not yet. 
We'll get to it, don't worry. 

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Our first moderator tonight, he 
kept murmuring. 

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Oh God, I wish that was me every
time Platy was on screen, 

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whatever that means. 
We got miles. 

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Miles, how's it going? 
Take that. 

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The show needed more platy. 
So yes, like it. 

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It's going OK. 
We're doing OK. 

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I think this is the closest to 
air time that I have ever 

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finished a show. 
I pulled a pat and finished this

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like 6 minutes before this 
moment. 

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That's where we're at. 
That's perfectly fine, just like

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my work ethic, as long as it 
gets done. 

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I don't care when you do it 
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And Pat? 
Which one's platy? 

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The Platypus. 
Are you serious? 

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That's not a duck. 
Dude that's a platypus. 

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There's an entire episode 
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platypus. 
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This MF did not watch the show. 
I guess not. 

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I guess not. 
That episode. 

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Coma como. 
OK, He's platypus. 

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OK, OK. 
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creature that looks like a 
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You not notice what they call 
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screen and. 
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trying to hunt him down and find
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up a bunch of platypus facts on 
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actual real platypus images. 
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I did, you know. 
Look, I forgot a lot about what 

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was said in the show too. 
Don't worry about it. 

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I don't remember what was real 
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With this show. 
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Sabage Buu Survival game Club 
anime that aired in the summer 

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2014 season done by Studio Piro.
Plus source from a manga. 

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Genres of action, comedy, cute 
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and a demographic of shojo. 
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Boy that was needed. 
Why don't we start with our 

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first impressions? 
Miles, what did you think about 

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Survival Game Club? 
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episode and the second episode 
about a week and a half ago and 

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I thought the show was going to 
be complete ass going into it. 

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And I watched the first episode 
and I was like, that was pretty 

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funny. 
Like there was definitely some 

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like this is ass quality to it. 
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bit and then the second episode 
happened and I paused it like 

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halfway through and I was like, 
I'm not going to like this show.

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Unfortunately, this is this is 
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It is like sometimes you see a 
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One Punch Man and you think it's
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Spaghy Boo and you don't think 
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And then I I got to today where 
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and I didn't think it was very 
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That whole build up, are you 
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like and it was incredible. 
It's like, Nah, that shit. 

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call it The Simpsons movie 
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I remember when I went to see 
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don't know how many there have 
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spider pig one the first 
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Far as I know, we're getting a 
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Yeah, OK, OK, cool. 
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as of now, The Simpsons Movie, 
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kind of chuckling. 
And then, like, I, me and my 

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friend Ryan, we leave and he was
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funny? 
And I was like, yeah. 

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And he was like, what did you 
think was funny? 

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I was like. 
Shut up, other, shut up. 

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That's good thing. 
That's good thing. 

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Anything. 
The Rock and the Hard Place joke

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is pretty funny. 
That I do remember that one. 

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Yeah, that's a good one. 
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from it. 
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that doesn't count 'cause that 
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And so I think the humor, it was
sort of like that for me where I

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like would find things funny in 
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stuck with me. 
I had to do a lot of soul 

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searching before this episode to
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was funny or not. 
This sort of does the thing. 

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Wait, I'll get into it later. 
It's fine. 

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Those are my first impressions. 
What I recommend this has. 

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You'll have a great time, buddy.
Yeah. 

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This is a hash show 100% and. 
That yeah, that's what I got. 

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All right, Kat, what about you? 
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I was looking at a show that was
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never seen before was going 
through a random cobbled 

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together thing that I'd made 
like a couple of years ago for 

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if we had to do a show that none
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Because I thought that would 
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And I was like, all right, I'm 
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Two moves later, like 2 moving 
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to use that and we come up with 
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Boo. 
I generally thought this was 

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going to be ass. 
I generally did. 

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I had a lot of fun. 
One of the episodes, you know, 

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was standing. 
I thought it was a lot of fun. 

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I am a fairly easy person to 
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anime, especially a slice of 
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Plus there was a point in my 
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So there's a little bit of a 
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But yeah. 
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Probably not. 
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It's like it's fun, but it's one
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AJR. 
You don't recommend them to your

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friends. 
I don't know what we're talking 

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about. 
That is the whitest thing Kat 

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has ever said. 
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What's AJR? 
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They're they're a band, yeah. 
That one of their one of their 

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best songs is called the Dumb 
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fun, they were trying to make 
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made the Best Song from it. 
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My people everyday from cat. 
A a very fun cover of All 

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American Bitch that I like. 
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Yeah, by Olivia Rodrigo. 
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like SpongeBob I'm Ready as the 
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Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real. 
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minute, I'm gonna blow my ass 
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OK. 
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So I think my favorite AJ. 
OK, sorry. 

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Pete, what's your favorite AGR 
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The one that I don't have to 
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But. 
So all of them. 

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Don't step on my touch tone 
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None of them. 
They're all bad. 

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That beta is trash. 
I'm sorry. 

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Actually, I'm not sorry that 
beta is trash. 

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That. 
Man is trash I think, but I 

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think they're inoffensive is 
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Tennis, Wilson would absolutely 
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That So my first impressions of 
Sagaebu. 

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All right, here we go. 
I tried. 

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I tried to get there. 
I I appreciate it. 

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So coming in to us, I thought 
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I knew it was kind of silly, but
I thought it was like a cute 

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girls doing cute things, silly 
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dice club or something like that
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And then it ended up being, oh, 
Nokoton stole all of their 

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material from this show. 
That makes a lot of sense. 

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I love this show. 
I also have one episode. 

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I thought this show was 
fantastic. 

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I think it's structured in a way
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impressions, it's structured in 
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like brain rock comedy, which is
fantastic because I don't want, 

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I don't want a 24 episode show 
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I want like 3-7 minute little 
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did. 
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It broke it up. 
Each little thing that they did 

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was mostly fun and some of them 
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crafted in a sense. 
I like this show way more than I

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thought it would. 
I would recommend the shows. 

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If you thought no Catan sucked 
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like Nokoton, check out Sage Moo
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I think this is a genuinely very
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Do I? 
Think this is better than 

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Nokoton? 
I actually lowered my score of 

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Nokoton because of everything 
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They just stole from the show. 
Like all the tropes are stolen 

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from this show Ivory character. 
No, Katan joke isn't in this, so

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for whatever that's worth, I 
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Under the impression. 
It's the one where it just. 

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Cuts from. 
You look, the very first time 

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they do the exact intro for 
Maria Watches over Us, and then 

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they have no Katan show up. 
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funny. 
And it was all downhill from 

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there. 
Yeah, I think it has 11 joke and

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it's the reference to the quasi 
obscure 1990s theory Pat. 

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What's your first? 
Impression, Thank you. 

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I thought nothing could take me 
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feeling yesterday, winning our 
second hockey gold medal of the 

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weekend for the States. 
You know, never thought I'd see 

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that in my lifetime. 
I haven't seen it in my 

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lifetime. 
This this show brought me all 

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the way back down to reality 
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I I've I'm very upset that I had
to watch this to to put it 

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bluntly, I don't think it was 
very funny at all. 

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I think it has its cake and eats
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know, make jokes and parody the 
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And I think it's pretty gross 
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So I would not recommend this 
show in any capacity to anybody 

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other than I, I guess has. 
That's a good point. 

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This is a has show, isn't it? 
Like, yeah. 

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And that's not a reflection on 
has in my opinion. 

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And I'm not trying to say it is 
maybe it, yeah, but like not in 

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the way that I just described 
it, but. 

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Like complementary in 
parentheses. 

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Yeah, yeah, like again, like, 
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where were, were you alluding to
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But like the if a flag breaks 
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Invaders of Roku Jima Roku. 
Jima, yeah, that's stupid show, 

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pardon my French. 
Yeah, those if you like those 

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kinds of shows, go for it. 
That's a that's a has show right

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there. 
And all power to you, buddy. 

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I hope you enjoy this show 
because I'm sure someone will 

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tell you to watch it in our 
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weeks. 
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have to say in terms of 
introductory stuff before we get

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to the main role. 
So I think is that 1 1/2 

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recommends sort of one has 
recommend thrown in there and 

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couple, couple recommends. 
I don't really know that that 

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was hard to keep track of, but 
he. 

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Said he would recommend it. 
Pat said this is AJR and Pete 

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then said if we talk about AJR 
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his brains out. 
So you can view that as a 

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recommend if you want. 
True, but I wouldn't. 

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And then I said I should watch 
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So there we. 
Go yeah, we're we're coming full

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circle on this. 
But yeah, so let's talk about 

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spoilers for Sapag a Boo 
survival game club Miles, do you

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have a synopsis? 
I, I I don't I'm not going to 

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ask you. 
I want you to read the very 

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first two. 
Sentences. 

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I just want that. 
Please. 

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Because because it really just 
paints a picture for what I 

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think. 
Sort of sum up the show on the 

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train to her new middle school. 
Oh, these girls are in middle 

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school? 
Yep. 

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Yeah, it's the best. 
Oh wow, I pulled a fruba. 

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I thought this was high school 
the whole time. 

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That's my bad. 
Wait, why is why is the 

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president 18 she got? 
Held back, they they say in her 

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name it. 
Says like 18 I I thought she got

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like held back like once. 
To be fair that does make the 

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joke funnier because it's like 
has to be like 4 times but. 

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I also think the synopsis is 
wrong. 

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I'm pretty sure they're all in 
high school because they 

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mentioned the high school name 
multiple. 

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Yeah, 'cause they say JK right? 
Like the the creepy like pedo 

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guys say JK. 
So yeah, the synopsis is wrong 

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and they are in high school. 
Unless it's like one of those 

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mega schools where it's like 
middle school and high school 

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are together. 
I don't know. 

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Let's hope not. 
Let's. 

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Hope not, you never know. 
Strange to her new school, 

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Momoka Sonukawa is preyed upon 
by a molester, only to be 

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rescued by a girl wielding dual 
pistols. 

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Anyways, she realizes that this 
girl is like the leader of their

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their school survival club, 
which is basically where they 

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play airsoft. 
And then the show ends up being 

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a gag comedy involving them 
basically shooting airsoft guns 

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and being preyed upon by 
molesters. 

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Is is sort of the synopsis of 
most episodes in in some sort of

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order. 
It's an Academy, so all grades. 

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OK. 
It's been solved. 

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Yeah. 
So it's sort of a, it's like 

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structured sort of like a, a 
short, but they've like cobbled 

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enough shorts together for like 
full length episodes. 

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And I almost just had a reaction
where I had to do something but 

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I I've chosen not to and it's 
actually bothering. 

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We're so good at this, you know,
after years and years of doing 

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this club, you know, I think. 
About how to talk, Do you need? 

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Do you need? 
Help getting to the the first 

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talking. 
I get emotional thinking about 

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the show too. 
Miles. 

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Like right? 
You're a compulsion right now. 

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It elicits. 
Well, I was just like, you know,

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I was thinking about episode 4. 
Man, Really got. 

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Me anyways, it's I feel like 
it's like Psyche K and where 

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it's a show that is like when it
was aired in Japan, it was like 

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a short, but it like it's been 
cobbled together to be a full 

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length show. 
There's something I would like 

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to talk about at some point how 
I feel like I would have liked 

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the show more if we had just 
gotten like the 12th best of 

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these shorts. 
But yeah, that that's more or 

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less it Pete, I'm gonna I'm 
gonna put you on the spot now. 

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We like to to be positive here 
at what do you say anime we 

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often we off Yeah, unless it's 
AJR or OP sabage Boo. 

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But we're gonna start off on a 
good note here. 

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Pete. 
I want you to talk about the 

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show and cat, you could join in.
You like the show. 

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You did say it was AJR though, 
so I am getting conflicting 

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messages, but I I want to hear 
you guys talking about what you 

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liked about the show and you can
even throw it to Pat and I if 

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you think that it's something we
might have enjoyed about the 

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show. 
Well, I'm not passing it to Pat.

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You might want to, Yeah. 
I have the things I enjoyed 

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about this show in isolation, so
please, if you need to pass it 

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to me, OK. 
I didn't give it a one, I didn't

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give it a 1. 
So that's. 

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True, you did not give it a one.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. 

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So that's the end of the show 
thing. 

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So what do you like? 
What do you like about Sebage 

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Boo? 
I I guess I could start OK, a 

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couple things that miles alluded
to where it's like they do the 

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one joke and you either find it 
super funny or not. 

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I like the fact that like when 
like mobile cut as a character, 

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I think it's just great and like
this great in terms of like this

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is a brain rock comedy and she's
kind of a shitty person, but 

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like it's fine because that's 
like. 

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Awesome. 
Kind of like Mobica, like Cosmo 

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would be like the type of dude 
would be like he'd be do like 

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shitty things, but like if mega 
mean was still on the ground, 

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like he would run and pick her 
up and bring her home type of 

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thing. 
Mobica multiple times leaves 

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people to like for dead. 
I'll put that in quotation 

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marks. 
You know, where she just like, 

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oh, this is there's like a 
there's a specific line where 

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she says like, this is my joke 
where I thought that she was 

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MAGA was like, as long as like 
I'm happy, it's fine type of 

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thing was like her quote. 
I think it's like episode 10 or 

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11. 
She's like, well, as long as 

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whatever is affecting me 
positively is doing so, then 

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it's OK. 
And everyone around her is like,

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are you stupid? 
So Momoka as like a main lead is

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a huge point. 
I love the fact that she just 

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like shoots people in the head 
when she gets annoyed by them 

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and like that just solves the 
problem because they like die 

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for an episode or die for a 
scene type of thing. 

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I I really like, I really 
enjoyed that. 

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There's a couple of scenes where
when you have like brain rot 

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comedy, you're kind of just like
putting yourself in like the 

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dumbest situations possible, 
which can be tough because then 

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you have to think of a bunch of 
different stupid situations to 

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begin with. 
And I thought they did a good 

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enough job at like creating 
scenarios in the show where it's

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like outlandish and dumb and 
fun. 

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Like my favorite scene is 
episode 11 when Platy and the 

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crab team up and just we're 
like, now we're taking everybody

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on. 
It's like, this is my boy, this 

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crab is my boy and I'm going to 
war for my boy. 

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And then they they have like 
that shootout scene that I 

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didn't realize was in the show. 
I'm like, oh, this is the scene 

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from this show. 
Like, Oh my God, it was like 

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great. 
I mean, outside of episode 8, I 

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really enjoyed every at least 
some part of every episode in 

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this show. 
So. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, here's the thing. 

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This show, part of it was I was 
running high on it because I 

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don't remember the last time I 
won in a for watch club stuff 

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and riding high on that for the 
entire for watching the entire 

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show. 
Yeah. 

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Is it going to mess with me on 
rewatch is absolutely. 

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I'm not going to remember that. 
But I thought that it was very 

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fun to just be like, oh, hey, 
that's a Mac 11. 

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Oh shit, they actually. 
Got the name of the gun right, 

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that's fun. 
And then like a having like the 

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Glock and whatever. 
But also I loved some of the 

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some of some of like the 
tertiary characters like the the

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class president where she's just
she's like going after the club 

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president the entire time. 
And it's almost like every other

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person in this club is a 
terrible person, save for the 

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model. 
And she's just like she's just 

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the best part of this entire 
club. 

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Why am I trying to do this? 
And then it kind of goes full 

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circle around where the episode 
12 where Momoka is like 

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basically feels like kind of 
like a COVID situation, but 

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that's hindsight rather than, 
you know, they didn't they 

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didn't have COVID in time her. 
Auto tune was COVID. 

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I mean, well, yeah. 
Well, auto tune, her auto tune 

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is COVID. 
If you smoke for 20 years, there

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were there was a lot of a lot of
scenes in the show where I was 

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just sitting there and dying 
laughing specifically where 

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after I think it was like after 
episode 5, they kind of like 

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stop reminding you that, hey, 
this is just their imagination 

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and move. 
And I think they moved on to 

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like episode episode 12 before 
reiterating again. 

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And that was before, you know, 
the the idol becomes basic like 

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King Kong fighting budgets like 
that was that was one of the 

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moments where I just started 
bang laughing on my couch. 

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But then again, I've also I also
enjoyed dumb comedy. 

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Like that. 
So, yeah. 

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So I, I mean, I agree. 
I think Momika has a lot of very

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funny moments, like the, like, 
it's just any given scene where 

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people are helping her, they'll 
cut to her like in her monologue

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and she's like, thinking about 
how she can kill them and like, 

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you know, make the situation 
better for herself. 

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And I, I do think that's very 
funny. 

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I liked the shootout between her
and her mom and her mom that one

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episode. 
I thought some of the scenes 

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were good. 
Cat, To answer your question, 

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the last time you won was 
Helsing in January of last year 

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and. 
The three months. 

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The time before that was 
Domestic Girlfriend in 2024. 

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Holy. 
Banger what kids? 

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Cat. 
Was once last year. 

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Correct in January. 
I only won a few times too, I'm 

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pretty sure. 
Yeah, we're not fucking talking 

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about you, Pat. 
Well, I'm just saying like 

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there's a, there's a clear, 
there's like I think like 40% go

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to pizza, go to go to miles. 
Maybe nominee better shows? 

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Four times last year, Pat. 
I won four times. 

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Really. 
Yeah, now you won zero times in 

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the year of our Lord 2024. 
That's what it was. 

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So, but yeah, that was but you 
won four times. 

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You've actually won quite a bit 
recently with like Lazarus and 

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Zombieland Saga. 
You you did Steins Kate and you 

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did Spirited away from last 
year. 

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So. 
Wow, some hard, really nice 

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shows I'm picking and winning 
with yeah, I I have some I have 

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something nice to say about 
Sabagi Boo that's not like 

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ironic or satirical in in the 
context of what I'm saying Let. 

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Me hit you with a, I thought. 
Wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait, 

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wait, wait, wait. 
All right, I'll hit it. 

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You don't want to. 
OK, that's fine. 

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I can keep it to myself. 
No, I thought it was. 

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I thought the dialogue, I will 
give that like from a comedy 

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perspective, I thought some of 
the dialogue was very well 

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written. 
Like you guys were mentioning 

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with Momica. 
Her inner monologues were very 

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funny. 
I appreciate that she was not 

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like a good person. 
The show kind of tries to frame 

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it at the end, I feel like as if
she has a little redemption arc 

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in that last battle Avengers 
Assemble kind of thing. 

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I kind of 'cause she still lives
and gets to redeem herself, 

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right? 
Like I well. 

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What? 
Happens is she goes, I don't 

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deserve this and her friends go,
yeah, we know, but you're kind 

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of fun. 
Which is sort of the opinion we 

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all seem to have of MoMA cups. 
Like it's like, I think, I think

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I, I think I get where she's 
coming from, but like also she 

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everybody just kind of looks at 
her and goes, Nah, you just 

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you're fun to you're fun to 
smoke a bowl with all. 

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Right, fair enough. 
But to get back to, I guess my 

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more important point, I thought 
the dialogue between them was 

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usually pretty witty, at least 
to some degree. 

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I didn't always love the 
contents of the dialogue about 

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what they were talking about or 
the the same tits jokes and, you

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know, like just forced humor 
that I've that I was frustrated 

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by. 
But I I'm trying to call, I'm 

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trying to compliment it. 
I'm sorry. 

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Oh, so you didn't compliment it 
at all? 

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I did the dialogue. 
I thought the dialogue was 

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pretty funny at times like it 
when it wasn't doing the things 

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that it annoyed me with. 
I I get I I don't know. 

450
00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:35,720
I'm sorry. 
I'm. 

451
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,200
Trying I. 
Promise you I am. 

452
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,120
I like this for 20%. 
The 80% I fucking hated with a 

453
00:26:42,120 --> 00:26:45,800
passion. 
Yeah, it's, I mean, this show is

454
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,640
insulting to me at times. 
So I, I, I agree. 

455
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,400
They're they're color palettes, 
good color palettes used in the 

456
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:54,800
show too. 
There, there we go. 

457
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:56,440
Compliment sandwich. 
There we go. 

458
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,040
All right. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

459
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:03,440
I I generally thought, yeah, I 
mean, there are specific moments

460
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:08,040
that I I thought were funny, 
like when Mio comes in on the 

461
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,680
Lion, I thought that was funny. 
And then the completely end of. 

462
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,760
The cafe after that? 
Yes, exactly. 

463
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:23,560
The first couple of moments 
where they start like the first 

464
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:27,560
few times they did like the 
surprise headshots, like I 

465
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,120
thought it was funny. 
I think they sort of over relied

466
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:35,160
on that sort of thing. 
They're I liked the president 

467
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:38,960
episode where she like was 
trying to go to each member of 

468
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
the club to like get it 
defunded. 

469
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:47,160
And she sort of like changed her
persona to try to like, figure 

470
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,400
out like how to get them to like
turn on and like in, in that 

471
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,960
like, Momika turns on the group,
like immediately where she's 

472
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:58,320
like trying to sow discord. 
And Momika is just like, yeah, 

473
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,440
yeah, fuck those girls. 
I'm with you. 

474
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,480
That's fine. 
Something they really like to 

475
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,560
them to begin with. 
Right. 

476
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,240
Like, that's sort of the the 
Momika bit. 

477
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,760
And then like the cosplaying 
thing with Kayo where she's 

478
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,600
like, oh, like I'm cosplaying. 
And she's like just in her 

479
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,000
schoolgirl outfit, but she has 
like a mask on. 

480
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,520
And then she just pulls out a 
suitcase she had in case someone

481
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,080
wanted to cosplay with her. 
Like, I thought that was funny. 

482
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,680
The the back to the headshot 
thing. 

483
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,880
I did think it was funny when 
Momoka shot all the cats, the 

484
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,760
cat aliens. 
I thought that was pretty funny.

485
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,920
I liked the bit where they were 
going back and forth with the 

486
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:40,000
lady who like decorates your 
phones because Momoka forgot 

487
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,240
that she just had a gun in her 
in her bag. 

488
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,960
And so they were like shoot like
what really happened versus like

489
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:49,960
the like Yakuza interpretation 
of it. 

490
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,320
There were a lot of Western 
jokes in this too, like based on

491
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,480
like Star Wars and Predator and 
like a lot of Arnold 

492
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,200
Schwarzenegger stuff, which I 
thought was kind of fun. 

493
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,800
Like I this might be the first 
time I saw like a direct 

494
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,840
reference to Star Wars in an 
anime where they were just like 

495
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,840
like, and it wasn't even 
localized. 

496
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:14,080
Like she goes like Ben like like
Ben Kenobi when she gets like 

497
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,960
the little vision of her 
whatever, right? 

498
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:20,000
There were like lots of funny 
moments for me and this and I'm 

499
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,840
I'm going to be interested when 
we get to talking about episode 

500
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:28,120
8 because to me almost every 
episode was secretly episode 8, 

501
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,880
but like. 
Real quick though, for what 

502
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,680
you're saying, like some of the 
Western things like did you 

503
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:40,120
notice like in episode 12, the 
the the the national survival 

504
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Club, they're dressed like 
counter terrorists from counter 

505
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:47,160
strike, like identical. 
I was just like, OK, so I I 

506
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,120
wanted to do some research on 
the manga before coming into 

507
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,040
this. 
So I was like, OK, this manga, 

508
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,720
since it's labeled the show Joe,
I figured it was a a woman 

509
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,120
writer and it was but so I 
figured like it was like some 

510
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:03,440
Western Boo or Westa Boo like 
loves American culture, 

511
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,200
especially guns since it's 
heavily featured in the show. 

512
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,840
So that I checked out this 
manga. 

513
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,120
She's an animal rights activist.
Like what the fuck? 

514
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:16,600
She she now writes. 
She now writes. 

515
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,360
A. 
She writes a manga, so she 

516
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,360
lives. 
She has 10 cats and dogs, and 

517
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:24,360
she writes a new manga about her
life living with 10 cats and 

518
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:25,840
dogs. 
And then she's an animal rights 

519
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,280
activist. 
I was like, I got played so 

520
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,880
hard. 
I thought you were going to be 

521
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:34,840
like this conservative Westaboo.
It's like, no, it's a loving 

522
00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:37,640
animal rights activist made this
shell. 

523
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
OK but this weird because she 
had the pro hunting episode it. 

524
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,960
Doesn't make any. 
Well, I mean, I mean there are 

525
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,240
some of them that are like are 
pro hunting for like actually 

526
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,200
like collecting meat and stuff 
like that. 

527
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,520
Like that's a thing. 
It's not just killing to kill. 

528
00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,840
I guess you could you could view
it as anti poaching. 

529
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:04,200
Let's do it. 
We're working really hard for 

530
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,280
this show's message. 
Well, I had a child. 

531
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,040
In particular, has an animal 
rights story to it. 

532
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,320
That's true. 
That's. 

533
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,480
Amazing. 
But this one doesn't. 

534
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,200
Yeah, I would have expected some
sort of like, very W like 

535
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,840
everything is about guns and 
tanks and helicopters. 

536
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:27,720
She loves helicopters. 
The first time a helicopter 

537
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,880
showed up, I thought it was very
funny in in the episode where 

538
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,880
the girl's tampon broke. 
But like episode. 

539
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Yeah, that's surprising to me 
that. 

540
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Well, no, that's not the first 
episode. 

541
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:41,960
Oh no, no, no. 
Just another scene with a 

542
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,200
helicopter. 
No, it's 12. 

543
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:48,680
Where I I want to make it clear 
I I thought it was funny the 

544
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,840
first time a helicopter. 
You just think it's funny when 

545
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,400
the Crab was flying a helicopter
and Platy was on the machine 

546
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,480
gun. 
I thought that was funny because

547
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,480
the crab was flying a 
helicopter. 1. 

548
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,480
Absolutely. 
And then they RPG it, which an 

549
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,600
RPG and airsoft like that again,
like that's a funny, funny 

550
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,760
little little nod, little gag 
there, right? 

551
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,320
Like you, they're playing 
airsoft, but they're using RPGs 

552
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,600
and taking down helicopters. 
I guess that's all in their head

553
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,160
again, though, but still like, 
so how do you not have that in 

554
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,760
real life? 
You know, So what it? 

555
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,640
So this is all we could have 
friends in airsoft. 

556
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,000
They do have quote UN quote RPGs
in airsoft, but they basically 

557
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,760
use a potato gun. 
So so not an RPG. 

558
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:38,920
It's not an RPG, but it's 
basically a potato. 

559
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Like it's not gonna fucking take
down a helicopter, but they. 

560
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,280
You know I have a black card but
it's actually just 5 bucks in my

561
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:51,840
wallet. 
You know, helicopters aren't 

562
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,400
that tanky. 
They they, they are not that 

563
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,960
great for safety. 
So honestly, the an airsoft 

564
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,200
potato gun, whatever it is, 
might actually take down a 

565
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,920
helicopter. 
You don't know. 

566
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:06,040
We don't know. 
I mean, fuck, yeah, this is we 

567
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:06,880
give it. 
All right. 

568
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,000
All right. 
What's the next topic, Miles? 

569
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,240
I'm sorry, not or unless we're 
staying on it. 

570
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,920
Yeah, no, I mean, I think, I 
think we we we got to talk about

571
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,760
like our bits and stuff. 
I don't know, Pete Cat, did you 

572
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,360
have like a favorite member of 
the OK Cat? 

573
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,000
You said your favorite was the 
the model or was it? 

574
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,360
Moment cat No, no, no, no. 
I I didn't say I've ever was the

575
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:33,080
model. 
My favorite was KO the the 

576
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,520
cosplayer. 
Oh, the the smart girl. 

577
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,320
OK, Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, no, I was saying 

578
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,960
that everyone like during the 
episode where the the student 

579
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:50,400
council president was doing her 
rounds with the class with like 

580
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,360
the survival club and trying to 
get it like defunded and all 

581
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,600
that. 
Maya the model was was the least

582
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,840
problematic. 
Yeah, I will. 

583
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,840
I will say I liked KYO until she
talked about the specific heat 

584
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,600
of oxygen, but then they called 
it the atomic and everyone knows

585
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,880
that atmospheric oxygen is of 
course diatomic and so she 

586
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,520
should have used the word 
molecule. 

587
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,560
Idiot took the words right out 
of my mouth. 

588
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,000
I mean, that was that. 
That bothered me more than 

589
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,840
almost anything else in this 
show, so I'm glad someone else 

590
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,400
addressed. 
It I'm not sure what it says 

591
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,600
about me, but that is up on my 
list. 

592
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,800
Does that upset you more or less
than the shooting the high 

593
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:38,719
schooler and the boobs like? 
I will say it does bother me 

594
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,840
more than the shooting in the 
boobs. 

595
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:47,400
Yeah, probably less than the 
like the Panny shot crew that 

596
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,120
existed, Yeah. 
But more than the shooting in 

597
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,520
the. 
What I have learned is when I 

598
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,800
first started my foray into 
anime and there was like a lot 

599
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,440
of jokes about how big girls 
boobs were. 

600
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,080
And I was like, this feels like 
something women wouldn't do. 

601
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:08,680
And as I have interacted more 
with women in my life, I've 

602
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,480
realized that that's something a
lot of women do. 

603
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,280
So I just sort of I think it's 
weird still, but I'll give it a 

604
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:19,800
pass. 
The boob jokes specifically 

605
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,120
because it just it just seems to
exist a lot. 

606
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:29,960
So that being said, I think we 
should talk about Pete. 

607
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,640
I would like to know your 
specific issues with episode 8. 

608
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,080
Where there there. 
So for clarity, the the plot of 

609
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,920
the subsection of episode 8, 
Pete has an issue with that. 

610
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:46,080
I'm sure we all have a bit of an
issue with is Momica becomes a 

611
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:49,920
model. 
She's an amateur model and there

612
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:53,840
is a group of photographers who 
are known to try to find these 

613
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:58,760
amateur models and take panty 
shots and like sell them online 

614
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000
or whatever. 
This episode does in fact 

615
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,920
sexualize Momica a bit. 
But I guess my point would be 

616
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:09,480
when thinking about Episode 8 in
the context of the rest of the 

617
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:15,160
show, So do like seven other 
episodes in this and at least 

618
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,760
this one, she gets to beat up 
the guys who are sexualizing 

619
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:21,480
her. 
You know, So like, it's not 

620
00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:26,000
great, but it does technically 
have the moral of this is bad. 

621
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,960
And which is I think where Pat 
was sort of referring to it like

622
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,680
having your cake and eating it 
too, where the show is sort of 

623
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:39,240
like, OK, like it is wrong to to
sexualize these these girls. 

624
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,440
And then it it a lot of the time
it sexualizes the girls in other

625
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:47,000
contexts. 
They're just cute girls doing 

626
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,240
cute things, but then they're 
also just panty shots are 

627
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,840
almost, you know, like one of 
the first scenes of the show is 

628
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,480
about a thing molested on a 
train. 

629
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,920
And instead of like they they 
are relatively discreet with 

630
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,360
that. 
But then they have the woman 

631
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,680
come in and save her and first 
thing you see is her doing like 

632
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,360
a whole high, high kick and you 
see like or or crotch front and 

633
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:10,920
center of the screen. 
And it's it's like, why? 

634
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,160
Why are we? 
She's wearing shorts. 

635
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,920
I feel like we have this 
conversation all the time that 

636
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,680
we like over sexualize things 
that are just like, it's just a 

637
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,960
girl wearing shorts and she 
kicks somebody like I, I, I 

638
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,520
don't know, I, I don't, I, I get
stuff like episode 8, but that 

639
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:33,200
scene, I think we're stretching.
We're reaching really hard, like

640
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080
'cause like, OK, so here's my 
thing with episode 3, it was 

641
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,240
like a thing with like her 
gaining a bunch of weight. 

642
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,280
And then they were making these 
jokes of how she should lose all

643
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,320
this weight. 
And the, the joke was she should

644
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,960
just throw up. 
Like she should just throw up 

645
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,240
after meals. 
And that was like the joke. 

646
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,040
And I was like, huh. 
Like I, I, I was kind of 

647
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:54,960
confused by like, are they, are 
they being serious or is it a 

648
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,480
joke? 
Like I, I really didn't know 

649
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,320
what they were going for with 
that. 

650
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:02,880
And then episode 8 came around 
and it was the joke. 

651
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:05,680
I'll put this in quotations for 
like, the joke. 

652
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,360
Like the bit was like, these 
creepy dudes love sexualizing 

653
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,600
these girls and trying to get up
shirt UPS, got up shots, skirt 

654
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,280
shots, whatever. 
And I thought they were going to

655
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:22,400
go the route of they weren't 
going to show anything because 

656
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,640
like that defeats the entire 
purpose of like what this 

657
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,200
episode is going to mean. 
And then they do it anyway. 

658
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:33,480
So then I'm like, well, what's 
the point of this episode then? 

659
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:38,640
If you're saying that you want 
you, you shouldn't do this, but 

660
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,080
then you do it. 
But then I was really confused 

661
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,600
by why this is labeled as like a
show joke 'cause this is like a 

662
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,320
shown in magazine thing where 
like, 'cause they make jokes 

663
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,880
about this in the show where 
it's like, oh, you thought you 

664
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,080
were getting a beach episode 
Psych. 

665
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:55,120
But then it's like, but we're 
actually going to give you this 

666
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,360
episode instead. 
It's like you didn't really do 

667
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,360
anything, Like you didn't really
like go away from the 

668
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:03,280
stereotypical beach episode or 
whatever episode. 

669
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,000
You still did the same thing 
that you're saying that you are 

670
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:11,480
making fun of or whatever. 
So the whole or like it's it's 

671
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,840
cool that they she got to. 
Like beat the object, hold on. 

672
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,000
It's like, it's cool that like 
she got to beat them up and 

673
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,600
everything at the end of it, but
like the entire episode is 

674
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,080
pointless. 
It means nothing in the context 

675
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,400
of what it was trying to 
present. 

676
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,400
So this is like when you were 
saying like you wish that they 

677
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,960
took like the the 12 best shorts
and made it into an episode. 

678
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,640
You could just get rid of 
episode 8 and it changes nothing

679
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,520
about this story like it was. 
I think it's genuinely like a 0 

680
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,760
out of 10 episode. 
I thought it was horseshit. 

681
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:44,360
See this is interesting. 12/2 
ends with the same bit though, 

682
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,760
doesn't it? 
Like, doesn't it where they're 

683
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:49,200
like, like you mentioned the oh,
we're going to do a beach scene,

684
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,120
but then they don't do it 
exactly the way. 

685
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
But then they still like episode
12. 

686
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,440
They're like, oh, you thought 
you were going to get a bath 

687
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,640
house scene and then the show 
literally ends on the two of 

688
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,440
them jumping into the bath 
together, right? 

689
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,560
Like like so it. 
But you that that's one of those

690
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,680
things where like you find it 
sexualizing and I don't because 

691
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,720
like bath culture is such a 
thing over there and it's 

692
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,560
perfectly normal that we view it
as sexualized and they don't. 

693
00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:14,920
So that one I'd chalk up 
something differently. 

694
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:18,160
But like the whole point of 
episode 8 is guys are creepy. 

695
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,320
Stop doing weird shit to little 
girls. 

696
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,920
And then they just do shit to 
little girls the entire episode.

697
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,640
It's I I'm with you on the bath 
house thing because like again, 

698
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:29,720
bath house felt like everyone 
just sort of goes to like Camino

699
00:40:29,720 --> 00:40:34,920
bath houses and everything. 
But it I guess I, I was exactly 

700
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:39,840
0% surprised when the show 
showed her panties in episode 8 

701
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,080
based on the prior 7 episodes. 
There was a lot of cleavage and 

702
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:50,000
jiggling and not quite upskirts,
but like almost a lot of sort of

703
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,520
precarious positioning. 
So I, I guess that was my 

704
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,280
thought for why I wasn't 
particularly surprised about it 

705
00:40:56,280 --> 00:41:00,160
because we do spend a good 
amount of the time with the 

706
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,600
camera ogling these girls And 
they they even sort of humanized

707
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,640
like the fried chicken, lemon 
lemon fried chicken. 

708
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:08,680
What's his name? 
Fried? 

709
00:41:08,720 --> 00:41:14,640
Chicken Lemon. 
OK, you know, but even he's like

710
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:17,800
kind of a perv. 
Like they try to subvert it a 

711
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,680
bit where he's like not as pervy
as you think he's gonna be, but 

712
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:24,480
then they they can't help but 
make him a little pervy even in 

713
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:26,840
his episodes. 
And so like I, I'm with you on 

714
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,120
like that episode. 
I just have to like, I'm not 

715
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,560
surprised the show did it. 
I didn't find it out of line for

716
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,680
the other 7 episodes that came 
before it. 

717
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,520
I will say the show did lower 
that sort of fan servicing stuff

718
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:44,040
as it like went along. 
It didn't get rid of it, but 

719
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,280
there was after like episode 8, 
I think it did sort of tone it 

720
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,880
down a bit. 
Like the Australia episode. 

721
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:50,920
I don't remember anything being 
crazy. 

722
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,760
Like, I don't know, there was 
some stuff, but it wasn't 

723
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:59,560
anything like insane, but. 
The again, I I the bath house 

724
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,520
thing to me, I get where you're 
coming from if it wasn't the 

725
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,240
specific characters that were 
involved. 

726
00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:09,240
Aurora is literally like becomes
a masochist and like starts 

727
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:12,960
looking at Momoka in that way 
during that either that episode 

728
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:18,920
or a couple episodes before. 
And then her whole the whole 

729
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:22,560
reason she wants to bathe with 
her in my, in the way that I 

730
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,240
would read it is that because 
she wants to be in the bath with

731
00:42:25,240 --> 00:42:29,000
her, because she's like fawning 
over her for reasons other than 

732
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,040
like the the communal bathhouse 
thing. 

733
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,320
Like I that that's where I I so 
like that. 

734
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,800
That's why I, I, I agree with 
you, Miles on your side where 

735
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:39,360
it's like this show didn't feel 
like it was trying to not do 

736
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,480
that stuff. 
It was making fun of it for 

737
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,000
doing it that itself for doing 
that stuff, But then it also was

738
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,200
still doing plenty of it. 
And I, I agree with you, like 

739
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,640
the the first episode, she gets 
shot in the boobs and the bullet

740
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,560
holes make nipples and she moans
like what when she gets shot 

741
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,200
like, and I know that that's an 
anime thing, but it's like I sit

742
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,920
here and I try to watch it and 
I, and it just makes me feel 

743
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:03,760
uncomfortable. 
And I, I that I guess that's why

744
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:08,880
I am so sensitive to it in those
contexts. 

745
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:18,360
I mean, personally, like episode
8 did make me like really 

746
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:25,440
uncomfortable, but like 
episodes, like episodes that 

747
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,040
they like the first episode 
where you know, it, it makes 

748
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,960
like she gets shot in the 
nipples, you know, whatever. 

749
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Like I'm I'm not like I'll. 
So I chalked that up to a 0 

750
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,680
burger kind of like it. 
It's one of those things where 

751
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,240
I'm just like, it happens and I 
just kind of move on. 

752
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,640
But. 
Like. 

753
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:55,880
It it, it's kind of something 
that I personally have just kind

754
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,800
of taught myself to ignore. 
But when we get to moments where

755
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:06,520
like it's episode 8 where it's 
like just bunch of panty shots, 

756
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:12,720
really uncomfortable, and we 
have a call back to that for. 

757
00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,000
In 12 when? 
They show up in 12. 

758
00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't 
like that either. 

759
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:25,880
Yeah, like that's not cool. 
Like it's one thing for it to be

760
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:31,760
trying to jokingly sexualize 
stuff or, you know, but like 

761
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,600
Beat said, like when you when 
you ruin your own message by, 

762
00:44:35,720 --> 00:44:38,800
you know, doing the thing that 
anime would normally do, that 

763
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:47,480
feels odd and bad. 
But like it feels like it's 

764
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:52,800
something that is trying to go 
against, like actively go 

765
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,320
against something. 
And it might. 

766
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,320
And honestly, it might have been
something where the IT might 

767
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:01,200
have been something that came 
from from someone else other 

768
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,200
than the mangaka, but I don't 
know. 

769
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,680
I felt that way. 
Too. 

770
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,560
I felt that way too. 
Yeah. 

771
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,600
I always pictures like the the 
the Inuasha thing, because 

772
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Inuasha was it wasn't 
specifically written for a 

773
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:17,680
shonen magazine, but it it's 
like initial intentions weren't 

774
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:18,840
supposed to be a shonen 
magazine. 

775
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:22,560
And then it got into a shonen 
magazine and the manga was like,

776
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:26,680
OK, we'll do this. 
But like you can never have like

777
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,680
the girls show their underwear 
in this because like Kagame 

778
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,080
wears like a short skirt in the 
show, but like you never see her

779
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
underwear. 
I thought that this was what the

780
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,720
show was going to do that where 
like we would have like 

781
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,360
sexualized imagery of the 
characters themselves, because 

782
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:44,440
this is the type of era where 
like that sort of stuff was like

783
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,600
very prevalent in. 
And I guess me thinking that 

784
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,080
this era was going to have that 
and this show was going to have 

785
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,440
that. 
I felt like this show was pretty

786
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,720
tame for the most part in terms 
of that stuff. 

787
00:45:55,840 --> 00:46:00,000
Like, yeah, there's chicks with 
big tits, but like I, I don't, I

788
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,840
don't think it's like as 
sexualized as we're making it is

789
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,760
kind of what I'm getting. 
There's like sexual stuff, but. 

790
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:08,560
It's not like High School of the
Dead or anything. 

791
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:09,680
Yeah, right. 
That's way. 

792
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,760
Worse, Yeah. 
And like, I, I don't know, I, I 

793
00:46:13,760 --> 00:46:18,600
just like, tend to never like 
any of that stuff, right? 

794
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,040
Like, yeah, you know, but like, 
there are exceptions. 

795
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,160
Like I, I, I put up with it in 
Konosuba even if there's like 

796
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:27,600
issues. 
And that's an example of a bath 

797
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,160
house scene that there's no 
argument is supposed to be 

798
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,520
horribly sexualized. 
In fact, there are multiple bath

799
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:39,120
scenes in that show that, that 
you can't even pretend that it's

800
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,840
not supposed to be sexualized, 
you know? 

801
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:46,880
So this though I, it was 
interesting to me because like 

802
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,840
the rest of this author's manga,
I believe are shonen. 

803
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,880
So maybe there's a sign in in 
there, I don't know. 

804
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,680
But she I don't think she's 
writing a lot of other shojo. 

805
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:02,680
So I almost wonder if she meant 
for this to be shoneni and then 

806
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,320
it just got picked up by a shojo
magazine. 

807
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:09,120
Feels that way. 
Like she was writing it to try 

808
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:12,600
to be a shonen and then for 
whatever reason it got published

809
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,200
in the. 
Shojo man, that's exactly what 

810
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,400
it feels like because it has the
art style, like the manga has 

811
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,640
the art style of like a shojo 
like manga, but the context it's

812
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:28,320
it's not saying that Shojo's 
can't have brain rock comedy, 

813
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:34,800
but like it's so far away from 
what I would expect it to like. 

814
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,840
I would expect it to be like 
like art, like stylistically. 

815
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,880
Shojo asked which is it? 
It is. 

816
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:44,320
And then if the comedy was brain
rot, that's fine. 

817
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,400
I feel like that's universal, 
but like still have the 

818
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:51,400
properties of like what makes 
Shojo JoJo And it's like like a 

819
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,120
little bit more respect towards 
like the female cast and stuff 

820
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,160
like that. 
And like we didn't get that. 

821
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,920
Like it was very odd. 
It was a very odd show. 

822
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,040
It is weird because there are 
there are like to me, it does 

823
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:07,920
feel a lot like a shojo in the 
way that like you don't get 

824
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:12,240
jokes about a girl being on her 
period and her tampon breaking 

825
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,360
in a shonen like that doesn't 
happen. 

826
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,880
So that that felt like something
that you would deal with and and

827
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,960
a lot of the issues that she 
talks about, like in a world 

828
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,640
where episode 8 is like less 
panty shoddy or like a lot of 

829
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:27,160
these things are less. 
I I agree with you that it's not

830
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:28,720
overly Edchy. 
To me. 

831
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:32,720
It's sort of the IT almost feels
like there's like this message, 

832
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,640
which it which I would generally
agree with right? 

833
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,120
Like 'cause Momoko will say 
things like think about how the 

834
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:42,800
girls feel. 
But like as far as Shojo's I've 

835
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,200
seen, which is admittedly not 
like a ton or anything, it's 

836
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,600
just you know, some amount. 
But this is the most fanservicey

837
00:48:49,600 --> 00:48:55,640
shojo I've ever seen. 
For the from like a yes correct.

838
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,200
I've seen some show Joe's where 
they sexualize the men really 

839
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,960
hard. 
Oh yeah, just like, oh, just 

840
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,720
like the glittering, like, ABS 
everywhere, pretty boy. 6 foot. 

841
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,640
5. 
Yeah, just me. 

842
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,440
Do you know that? 
I'm actually just every male 

843
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,200
love interest in Kami Samakis is
based off of me. 

844
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:24,360
I I could tell by your. 
That's 100% true, yes, and the 

845
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:29,000
fact that I'm some sort of yokai
or whatever, but like like like 

846
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,520
I don't think I like I was like 
bothered by this as much as like

847
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:40,520
Pat was, but I did find the 
juxtaposition weird and with the

848
00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:46,800
with the other like shojo Y 
qualities of it sometimes, which

849
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:49,160
I thought were very funny when 
they had Momika doing like the 

850
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:53,440
stereotypical like shojo, like 
pro tag eyes, like Utna's best 

851
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,880
friend or whatever, let you know
like like early 90s shojo and 

852
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,960
then she would shoot someone in 
the head like during that like 

853
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,520
flower scene. 
Like I thought that was very 

854
00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:10,560
funny, but like it, it does to 
me feel like what would what is 

855
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,120
sort of mild in this genre, but 
like one of those, it's a little

856
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,040
surprising to me that this isn't
like a harem show. 

857
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:23,080
Like right? 
It sort of feels like that 2010 

858
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:29,200
to 2014 harem show that is like 
you, you look back at it and 

859
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,600
you're like, oh, we all kind of 
like that, huh? 

860
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:38,320
Like, you know, yeah, like, I 
don't know, it's like this isn't

861
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,760
like, you know, how on like 
Sword Art Online, there's like 

862
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:44,400
the random scenes of people 
getting like, awesome and 

863
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,200
getting like, molested or 
whatever that are like more 

864
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,560
graphic than this. 
But like, that sort of thing is 

865
00:50:49,720 --> 00:50:53,480
less common in SAOI think, 
though it is like a much higher 

866
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:55,200
peak. 
But then also there's like this 

867
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:56,560
cast. 
Like I feel like the show is 

868
00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:04,360
missing Kirito. 
Like you're almost supposed to. 

869
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:09,000
Self insert maybe? 
Yeah, like I'm expecting to have

870
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:13,480
to self insert, but but it's not
there. 

871
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,960
Instead you get Mamika who who 
is a fun character. 

872
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,480
But like, I almost wonder if 
this was written as like a guy 

873
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:26,080
accidentally joins the Sibaki 
Boo class and it's, you know, 

874
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:29,080
these five girls. 
This is. 

875
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Juwana man. 
Yeah, I, you know, I don't know,

876
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:36,320
it's just like, it just almost 
feel like one of the shows that 

877
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,400
it's like a guy and all of his 
friends, but all of his friends 

878
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,360
happen to be girls of the school
he just joined, like. 

879
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,160
You're supposed to self insert 
as the the platypus, then there 

880
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:47,840
you. 
Go. 

881
00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:52,160
That's good, because I did. 
Based off my intro, he did a 

882
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:52,720
lot. 
Of platypus. 

883
00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,480
The platypus is part of every 
joke I enjoyed. 

884
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,560
So it's. 
Anyways, this was a Phineas and 

885
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,760
Ferb RIP off and I think that's 
important to to know what. 

886
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:09,880
Did Phineas and Ferb come? 
Out. 

887
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,120
Before this? 
Almost certainly, yeah. 

888
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:14,720
Not. 
Before. 

889
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:19,800
Yes, it did. 
Yeah, I 'cause I watched Phineas

890
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:23,040
and Ferb in college with my 
roommate while we just got 

891
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,000
plastered. 
And one, it was really fun to do

892
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,520
and two, there were like 6 
seasons of it and this came out 

893
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,360
my senior year of school. 
So that would unless they really

894
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:34,800
cranked out the Phineas and 
Ferb. 

895
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:40,440
OK, welcome to our new segment, 
as we do, which is let's answer 

896
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:44,640
some questions by Champ, our our
super fan. 

897
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,520
There's one I want to do really 
quickly because I know we all 

898
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,280
will just have the same answer 
and it'll be really quick. 

899
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:54,200
So let's knock this one out. 
And we've already kind of talk 

900
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,520
talked about it, but if the 
survival club were thrown into 

901
00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,960
real survival Serio, who do we 
think would actually step up as 

902
00:52:59,960 --> 00:53:03,000
leader and who do we who would 
immediately start plotting 

903
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,240
against the others? 
So for that second part, anyone 

904
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,320
disagree with Momica would 
immediately start trying to 

905
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:11,920
figure out how to betray 
everyone. 

906
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,080
Oh, for sure she would. 
Yeah, it's her. 

907
00:53:15,240 --> 00:53:16,240
She. 
Would absolutely do it. 

908
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:23,480
I I absolutely do. 
I absolutely do not disagree 

909
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:29,800
that she would just go, OK, 
survival club, I'm going to kill

910
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:35,120
everyone here and make sure I'm 
no, I'm going to go and talk to 

911
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:39,160
the to the opposing side if they
look better than me and make 

912
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,520
sure that I have a space with 
them. 

913
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:43,680
And then I'm going to help them 
kill everyone else. 

914
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,000
That that, that would be her 
plan. 

915
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,680
Yeah, so then betray someone at 
the end, Like tag team with 

916
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,920
someone, kill everyone else, 
then betray the person she 

917
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:55,760
teamed with. 
Yep. 

918
00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:01,520
OK, for the leader, I feel like 
Mio is sort of the obvious 

919
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:02,920
choice. 
She is. 

920
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,560
She has been held back four 
times, so maybe she's not the 

921
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,680
right choice. 
Held back once. 

922
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:13,960
Yeah, we'll never know. 
We'll never know. 

923
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:20,520
Or it's impossible to fight out 
and you know, but I also think 

924
00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:25,160
that like Maya would be like the
best answer. 

925
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:28,880
She sort of seemed the most 
level headed of the group as a 

926
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:32,280
scientist, you can't have the 
scientist be the leader and Kyo 

927
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,240
it's just it's not the right 
choice. 

928
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,600
We'll end up experimenting on 
people very quick. 

929
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,960
So what is everyone else's 
thought there for who would be 

930
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,080
who would step up and be the 
leader? 

931
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:48,440
I'm. 
Gonna go? 

932
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,360
I'll tell. 
You to go into eugenics again? 

933
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640
I'm gonna say Platy. 
What silent leader? 

934
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,920
I think he leads by example and 
not by his words. 

935
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,080
And I think that everybody likes
him. 

936
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:04,000
I think he'd be a great leader. 
You saw how he stuck up for his 

937
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,280
boy Crab. 
That's leader material all day. 

938
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,560
OK. 
He mugs them all. 

939
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:15,160
Yeah. 
What Yeah, I agree, though I 

940
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:19,240
would I would have said KO or 
Kyo because she's called Ish, 

941
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,160
you know, for the most part. 
But like you said, Miles, the 

942
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:23,080
science type should not be in 
charge. 

943
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,160
No, we need someone to keep us 
in check. 

944
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,920
Need a check and balance for 
sure. 

945
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,760
I like the Maya answer there. 
I think I I think I like the 

946
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:48,840
Maya answer. 
I oh, if I kind of, I'm kind of 

947
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:59,240
split between Maya and 
ironically Momoka And the reason

948
00:55:59,240 --> 00:56:00,520
why? 
No, I love it. 

949
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,480
That's an amazing answer. 
Please explain. 

950
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,640
OK, so Maya, for, you know, all 
the reasons that we've given for

951
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:15,400
Maya Momica, because if you have
a discerning enough eye, if she 

952
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,280
can tell that the people that 
she's going up against are 

953
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:24,880
weaker than her, she will drive 
into the depths of hell to make 

954
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,280
sure she wins. 
And if she's leading, she's 

955
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:32,840
probably going to use you as an 
asset. 

956
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:37,760
And if you can survive, she's a 
great leader. 

957
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,200
She's going to do most of the 
work. 

958
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Because that point is like, if I
lose like she's like, if I lose 

959
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:51,760
it's my fault and I should die 
because. 

960
00:56:52,240 --> 00:57:00,400
I, I, I like her as a choice 
because how, if you are 

961
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,120
controlling everyone, if you 
were the leader, it's really 

962
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,840
easy to betray everyone. 
Yeah. 

963
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:07,560
That's true. 
That's also true. 

964
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:11,280
You can and you could also 
delegate any dangerous jobs to 

965
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,880
other people. 
It's if you step up and you be 

966
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,600
the leader and you're 
delegating, you can prevent 

967
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,960
people or yourself from having 
to go in dangerous situations. 

968
00:57:21,960 --> 00:57:23,960
You can be like, OK, I think 
this is safe. 

969
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,040
I will take this task. 
I think this is dangerous. 

970
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:32,480
I will send out. 
Hopefully she dies, you know so.

971
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:33,760
I should make a movie about 
this. 

972
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,240
Is this a movie? 
Every war movie ever. 

973
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:44,440
That commentary that comments on
class differences and war and 

974
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,680
how the generals sit in the 
back, I don't know. 

975
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:49,520
I'm just picturing every war 
movie I've ever seen that that's

976
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,200
like. 
Yeah, OK. 

977
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,240
Yeah. 
Yeah, no, But yeah, that's a 

978
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,120
fair. 
It's a fairpoint, though, Pat. 

979
00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,280
I do. 
I see where your head's at, at 

980
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:57,680
least. 
I swear. 

981
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,840
Hey, if I'm useful to Momica, 
she's not going to just throw me

982
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,840
to the side until I'm not useful
to her. 

983
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,240
Anymore, you know it's. 
Almost like Hunger Games too, 

984
00:58:07,600 --> 00:58:10,760
yeah? 
The other thing is that if she 

985
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:15,600
is the leader and you understand
her nature, as soon as 

986
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:20,240
situations change and we're at 
the bottom, you know exactly 

987
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,720
what she's going to do. 
And then someone else can just 

988
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:29,000
go pop and go, all right, cool, 
now let's actually try and win. 

989
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:31,440
This is OK. 
This is true. 

990
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:34,640
As a leader, you also need to 
occasionally be able to kill 

991
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,520
your subordinates without guilt.
And who would do? 

992
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,520
That's what we all yeah, that's 
everyone knows this. 

993
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,240
What was I saying about 
scientists anyways? 

994
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,840
Everyone would cover it once 
again. 

995
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,000
Yeah, here we go. 
Would be able to do this. 

996
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,240
It's like my grandfather got AI 
believe a Bronze Star. 

997
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,520
He was in the Pacific theater 
and they were going to capture 

998
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:05,040
this group of Japanese soldiers 
who were bathing. 

999
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,200
And one of his squad mates 
started freaking out and it was 

1000
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:10,440
like, Oh my God, we're just 
being too loud. 

1001
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,720
My grandfather just knocked him 
out with the butt of his rifle 

1002
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,960
because he was making noise. 
And he got a Bronze star for 

1003
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,680
that is what my father has told 
me. 

1004
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:24,280
So you need someone like Momaka 
who will just knock it out if 

1005
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:28,960
you need it. 
So what I'm saying is give 

1006
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,640
Momaka A bronze star, I guess. 
I don't know if that was my 

1007
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,600
grandfather or he knew someone 
who did it, but because I heard 

1008
00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,920
that story like 10 years ago, 
but or 20 years ago. 

1009
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:40,760
I'm so old now, but that is a 
story I've been told. 

1010
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:47,960
So anyways, let's answer another
champ question really quick and 

1011
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:53,040
then I guess wrap up, huh? 
Probably, Probably, yeah. 

1012
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,800
Do Pete or Cat really quick? 
Do you have anything else you 

1013
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,160
want to talk about? 
Like with the show because you 

1014
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,800
liked it. 
Like themes, jokes, anything. 

1015
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:05,000
Sound design is incredible, 
absolutely incredible show and 

1016
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,520
it makes no fucking sense. 
Makes no sense like it. 

1017
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:14,320
We just watched Black Lagoon and
that had the mid sound design. 

1018
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:19,200
The sound design in the show was
so good for no reason though. 

1019
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,800
Huge plus for the sound design 
in the show. 

1020
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,440
That was not going to be one of 
my compliments. 

1021
01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,640
You know Cat always talk. 
I'll say I'm always touching on 

1022
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:37,000
the sound design. 
But. 

1023
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,000
What about the sound direction 
cat? 

1024
01:00:41,480 --> 01:00:44,320
I mean. 
So here's the thing. 

1025
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:45,200
Do. 
You even know what sound 

1026
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:48,760
direction is. 
Don't answer it, just move on. 

1027
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,040
I don't know. 
A bad joke by me. 

1028
01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,000
I'll take the left, it's the 
same. 

1029
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:54,800
Sound design. 
It's. 

1030
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,040
Basically. 
Covers all the bases. 

1031
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:02,880
Nope. 
Like, yeah, I'm not going to get

1032
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,400
into that. 
Anyway, one of my compliments 

1033
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:12,160
for the show is that it. 
Does really Really. 

1034
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:19,080
Well, with, with the pacing of 
most of its most of its bits, 

1035
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,520
there were because I think there
were there were a couple of 

1036
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,440
show, a couple of episodes, if I
remember correctly, that there 

1037
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:29,120
were two larger skits in one 
episode. 

1038
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,280
And then there were episodes 
that were that there were three 

1039
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:39,080
if like I think it was episode 6
and seven had three. 

1040
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,240
Some of them were two. 
Yeah, some of them were two. 

1041
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:45,520
Yeah. 
Like episode 12 at the very 

1042
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:49,040
least is 2 because it's the like
the yeah. 

1043
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,360
And then I think like episode 1 
is 2 as well. 

1044
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,640
I don't know about the center, 
but there's at least a couple 

1045
01:01:54,640 --> 01:02:00,640
that are two. 
Yeah, I, I part of it is just 

1046
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:04,600
like me not paying attention to 
the to the to the titles, but 

1047
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,200
feeling like, OK, this is a 
scene split, this is going to 

1048
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,840
something else. 
And it feels like, OK, we're 

1049
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,800
resetting and we can go on from 
there. 

1050
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,720
I really appreciated a lot of 
that pacing when it came to 

1051
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:22,240
that. 
And I saved for episode 8. 

1052
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,440
I didn't really feel bored in 
any of the in, in any of the 

1053
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:29,720
episodes. 
There was always something to to

1054
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,720
feast my eyes upon, except for 
episode 8. 

1055
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,160
Let's let's keep keep, let's, 
let's let's make that another 

1056
01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:42,360
disclaimer because I refuse, but
feast my eyes on whatever the 

1057
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:46,040
fuck was going on there. 
But yeah, like I enjoyed being 

1058
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:51,640
able to and being able to 
experience the, the, the pacing 

1059
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:56,560
of, Hey, this is this is, you 
know, this is somewhat funny. 

1060
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,080
And then we're moved to the next
joke. 

1061
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:02,120
And then, oh, her mom's back and
she's got a fucking revolver. 

1062
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,360
Let's fucking go. 
Like, that's that. 

1063
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,520
Honestly, if her mom was in the 
survival club, she would be my 

1064
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,320
favorite person in the survival 
club. 

1065
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:17,000
But. 
Really quick, let's answer 

1066
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:18,920
because I think this is 
interesting, champ. 

1067
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:23,400
We're going to do the sort of 
the 1st part of this, but is, is

1068
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,080
Momica a satire of your typical 
shoji protagonist or something 

1069
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:30,960
more? 
And Pete, I think you would know

1070
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,960
better this than me, but she 
sort of doesn't feel like 

1071
01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:40,080
satirical in that manner at all,
but sort of like a, a complete 

1072
01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:43,920
subversion of what you would 
expect from it. 

1073
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,680
Like it's not a satire on it. 
It's just like if you took your 

1074
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:52,960
stereotypical, you know, like, 
what's the girl from Fruba? 

1075
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:57,240
Just like the sweetest, most 
kind, selfless human of all 

1076
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,280
time. 
Yeah, right. 

1077
01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:06,040
And then you'd like, you put 1 
divided by Haru Honda and that's

1078
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:11,200
where you get Momoka, right? 
Like just the most selfish, you 

1079
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,440
know, in it for herself, doesn't
want to help anyone else sort of

1080
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,720
thing. 
So I don't even know if it's 

1081
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:23,000
like satire as much as just like
completely breaking your 

1082
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:26,200
expectation, you know, is what I
would define her as. 

1083
01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:28,160
I don't know what anyone else 
would, but that was sort of my 

1084
01:04:28,160 --> 01:04:30,560
fault. 
It reminds me of something like.

1085
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:34,520
Call her a deconstruction. 
No, no, not. 

1086
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:35,960
Not at all. 
So when? 

1087
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:38,520
I have a whole episode on why I 
wouldn't I. 

1088
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,240
Learned what deconstruction you 
should watch that after the no 

1089
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,280
do not watch. 
I almost deleted that episode. 

1090
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,760
It reminds me of like when I 
know, but it's like when people 

1091
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,080
call like Fragrant Flower a 
shojo because it's like a 

1092
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:55,040
romance. 
And it's like, well, just 

1093
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,080
because it's a romance doesn't 
mean it's a shojo. 

1094
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:00,480
And it's like, Oh well, blah, 
blah, blah, blah, blah. 

1095
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:03,080
I did all these things and then 
people just can't admit that 

1096
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:09,480
it's a thrown in type of thing. 
Mobica in terms of like, I don't

1097
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:12,360
think it's like satire. 
It's more of the fact that it's 

1098
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,320
just like, I don't know, I just 
think she she's just a brain 

1099
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:19,280
rock character and shojos are 
allowed to have brain rock 

1100
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:22,960
character. 
Like I just it, it's just. 

1101
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,280
It's just so. 
Far. 

1102
01:05:24,280 --> 01:05:28,680
It's like it's a bell curve and 
she's just like so far on one 

1103
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:34,000
end of the bell curve, but like 
it's not she belongs on the bell

1104
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,120
curve. 
She just belongs on the far end 

1105
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:39,560
of the bell curve, though. 
That's kind of what I'm 

1106
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:45,800
thinking. 
Was there like silly, like high 

1107
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,440
Jinxy like characters like this 
even and even in like prominent,

1108
01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:56,960
like highly rated shows, you 
have characters that are like, I

1109
01:05:56,960 --> 01:05:58,960
don't know, I the first thing I 
came to mind was like Shihaya 

1110
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:03,280
furrow, because Shihaya is while
she is like nice and bubbly, she

1111
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:08,720
is not like the over 
compassionate like MC that we 

1112
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,800
see a lot in these show. 
Joe's like she is like super 

1113
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,520
determined, wants to win all 
these things. 

1114
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:17,280
That's like that's a little 
different from like AI feel like

1115
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,840
a different character. 
That's probably on like the 

1116
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,480
other side of the bell curve 
where it's different, but like 

1117
01:06:21,480 --> 01:06:25,000
in that realm and then you have 
the brain rod on the other side.

1118
01:06:28,760 --> 01:06:31,040
I, I feel like the subversion is
a good way to put it. 

1119
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:36,840
Like, like at least if if we're 
trying to define it in a more 

1120
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:39,600
general sense without getting 
tuned tuned into it because like

1121
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:44,200
I, you know, I agree. 
Yeah, she's not the Torro Honda,

1122
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:48,360
but also not Yona either or that
far from Yona. 

1123
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:50,760
Maybe as a way to put it from 
Yona the dawn, you know, she's 

1124
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,480
Yona's pretty ruthless and the 
term and like you mentioned, the

1125
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:56,680
determination and like the 
desire to win ruthlessness. 

1126
01:06:56,680 --> 01:07:01,240
Maybe that she hired for you. 
The she hired Furu has as well. 

1127
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,880
I I can see it being an attempt 
at subversion but also a more of

1128
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,680
a just like a a character. 
I don't know, that's like the 

1129
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:11,480
cop out answer though, so I feel
kind of bad saying. 

1130
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:12,640
That well, I I, I. 
Think we're. 

1131
01:07:12,640 --> 01:07:14,120
So yeah, I guess we should. 
Right. 

1132
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:17,640
Are we like predisposed in our 
like sphere that we think shojo 

1133
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:20,640
and we think like the same type 
of character, especially if it's

1134
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,120
a girl character? 
Like we in our minds, we have 

1135
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:26,160
that like preconceived notion 
that this character is going to 

1136
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:30,480
be like X And then when it's not
like X, we're sort of like, wow,

1137
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:33,760
this is so unique and different,
but it's like they're allowed to

1138
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:35,760
have a rage of characters that's
just like. 

1139
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,040
Yeah, no quick with that trap, 
Yeah. 

1140
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,440
And that's an awesome. 
That's what that's an awesome. 

1141
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:42,480
Yeah, but but I think everyone 
does right. 

1142
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,440
Like does the same thing with 
like fragrant flower, right? 

1143
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,520
Like when they spoiler alert get
together in 12 episodes and it's

1144
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:54,280
a shown in romance, everyone's 
like wow, that's that's you 

1145
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,880
know, I can't believe that. 
And it's like they've always, 

1146
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,520
you've always been allowed to do
that. 

1147
01:07:58,560 --> 01:08:01,280
It's just that, you know, when 
you think shown in romance, you 

1148
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:03,240
do think it takes forever, you 
know? 

1149
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:06,040
Yeah. 
You know, which is like most of 

1150
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,400
the show show that I have 
watched do not have characters 

1151
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,960
that are the main character that
are like Momica. 

1152
01:08:12,000 --> 01:08:14,600
Yes, You know, yeah. 
So I'm. 

1153
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,720
I'm not expecting it like, you 
know, she's allowed to be like 

1154
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,120
that, of course, but it did sort
of play with my expectations. 

1155
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,439
Yeah. 
You know, so because like, even 

1156
01:08:24,840 --> 01:08:29,080
people like, who's like a 
complete bad ass is like, still,

1157
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:34,960
you know, good in some way. 
Like in Momoka's just a piece of

1158
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,960
shit. 
Horrible. 

1159
01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,800
Yeah, Yeah. 
And there's not a lot of 

1160
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:42,040
protagonists like that, frankly,
in any given media. 

1161
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:44,960
It's like closer to Seinfeld 
than anything. 

1162
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,240
Else you have Mobika. 
They're the same person, 

1163
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,200
honestly. 
Yeah, like that's what? 

1164
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,359
Wouldn't Mumika sacrifice her? 
Yes, the answer is yes. 

1165
01:08:57,600 --> 01:09:01,520
Mumika do the eclipse. 
The other thing? 

1166
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:08,840
She said. 
The other thing? 

1167
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,800
Sacrifice. 
The to the eclipse it would 

1168
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,279
happen. 
She would be part of the God 

1169
01:09:14,279 --> 01:09:21,040
Hand. 
Who's to say she isn't that 

1170
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:21,720
Gorgon? 
Who? 

1171
01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,000
Who? 
Is her. 

1172
01:09:24,439 --> 01:09:27,080
Who is her guts? 
Who is God fucking damn? 

1173
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,760
I mean it's gotta be Yurara 
right? 

1174
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,720
Like she's ride or die from 
Omaka. 

1175
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,680
Yeah, that's true. 
And then like we get the 

1176
01:09:36,680 --> 01:09:40,240
subversion of that, but but who 
does Yurara like decide to like 

1177
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:44,560
go with that makes like all of a
sudden Mobica's jealous I. 

1178
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:47,359
Mean like here's the Koska, it's
the idol from episode 12 because

1179
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:50,200
the the idol falls in love with 
Mobica too and then they break. 

1180
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:54,279
Oh, OK, yeah, OK. 
Like Koska and OK Yep, we have 

1181
01:09:54,279 --> 01:09:57,800
the dynamic. 
This is now about Berserk. 

1182
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:02,720
Hi Miles, what are your closing 
thoughts on Berserk and your 

1183
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:08,760
final score for the show? 
Yeah, so as I talked about in 

1184
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,080
our Shark Tank episode, I very 
much enjoyed Berserk. 

1185
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:18,400
I caught up with it, at least at
the time for Pete, and it took 

1186
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,000
me a minute, but it was a good 
read. 

1187
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,880
That being said, this show had 
its moments. 

1188
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:24,880
Not as many as Berserk, I'll 
say. 

1189
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:28,760
And while I personally don't 
find the problematic issues with

1190
01:10:28,760 --> 01:10:31,880
this as bad as the problematic 
issues I have with Berserk, 

1191
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:37,360
there aren't the highs for me to
to sort of ignore those parts or

1192
01:10:37,880 --> 01:10:40,720
compartmentalize them. 
Believe it or not, sabage poo 

1193
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:46,680
didn't hit the same epic fantasy
dopamine that I got from reading

1194
01:10:46,680 --> 01:10:51,440
Berserk. 
It wasn't close in stages, no. 

1195
01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:55,400
Not at all, actually. 
Not even close. 

1196
01:10:55,400 --> 01:10:59,640
Yeah. 
Frankly, it wasn't even close. 

1197
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,280
World apart. 
Yeah. 

1198
01:11:03,880 --> 01:11:09,640
And did I chuckle occasionally? 
Yes. 

1199
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:15,760
Did I think that the show would 
be better if you cut 90% of the 

1200
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:17,400
content? 
Yes. 

1201
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:20,520
And unfortunately that is not 
singing in its braces. 

1202
01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:24,200
I was horribly bored for like 
large portions of this. 

1203
01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:31,960
In between laughter was me just 
being like, please make a stop. 

1204
01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:37,920
That was like me watching this 
show and I think it for those 

1205
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,960
laughs and I will always have 
YouTube clips of those moments. 

1206
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,800
That would be my recommendation 
to anyone interested in this, 

1207
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:48,440
because you can Google sabage 
Boo, funny, funny moments and 

1208
01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:50,080
you'll probably you'll just get 
the show. 

1209
01:11:50,320 --> 01:11:53,840
It's kind of like the ghost 
stories dub where I don't 

1210
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:56,200
suggest I like watching that. 
I like that. 

1211
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:00,560
I, I suggest looking at the 
funny clips, that big sense I 

1212
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:04,240
said, I said this was better 
than Nokaton and I gave Nokaton 

1213
01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,200
a three. 
So we have room for that. 

1214
01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:11,120
I'm gonna give this I think A5. 
I'm gonna 5 out of 10 I think. 

1215
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:18,160
You're gonna say 3.1. 3.1 No, I 
think it's like a 5 To me. 

1216
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:20,680
It wasn't like the worst thing 
that's ever happened. 

1217
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:25,960
It was just sort of unfunny and 
boring and like borderline to 

1218
01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:27,960
Etchy, but we've watched Etchier
stuff. 

1219
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,560
And I, I'm not trying to be a 
hypocrite here, You know, like I

1220
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:35,640
gave Konosuba A10 and there's a 
whole scene where they they, 

1221
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:38,200
they smack each other's arms to 
make their boobs jiggle and 

1222
01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,240
that. 
And like, if I think that's Pete

1223
01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:44,400
comedy, who am I to say that 
shooting a girl in the boobs 

1224
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,120
isn't Pete comedy? 
You know what I mean? 

1225
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,320
I will say that it's not Pete 
comedy. 

1226
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:54,920
But. 
You know, I'll give. 

1227
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,000
You a perfect breakfast, of 
course can. 

1228
01:12:58,880 --> 01:13:01,680
All right, Cat, what about you? 
You know what, I'm going to give

1229
01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:09,400
us a four. 
All right, Cat, what about you? 

1230
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:15,680
So I I thoroughly enjoyed the 
show. 

1231
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:23,920
This was This was dumb fun that 
I needed it was this is one of 

1232
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,640
those shows that I can that I 
will probably never rewatch, but

1233
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,720
if I ever get around to 
rewatching it, my score will 

1234
01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:36,520
probably lower. 
But yeah, I, I, I just very much

1235
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:40,200
enjoyed a lot of the, a lot of 
the dags with the, with the 

1236
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:46,960
characters, mainly Momoka being 
a, a cheeky piece of shit and 

1237
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,320
just watching it everyone just 
kind of be like, oh, I'm OK with

1238
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,120
it until we get shot in the 
face. 

1239
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,480
It's like my I think I I think 
one of my favorite, my one of my

1240
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:01,800
favorite moments in this is 
where, you know, Momica is 

1241
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,200
fighting all fighting off all 
the different friend like, you 

1242
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:11,440
know, predator monsters in in 
like the whatever world survival

1243
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:12,640
club. 
And then I was going. 

1244
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,520
To say you needed to clarify 
what you meant by predator in 

1245
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:18,240
this particular case, Yeah, 
yeah, yeah. 

1246
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:24,680
No, I, I, I get to, but you 
know, she kills all of them and 

1247
01:14:24,680 --> 01:14:27,480
then she's starting to walk off 
and then she gets shot in the 

1248
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:32,800
head and it's Kyo just going 
fuck you, bitch. 

1249
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:35,560
And that that's one of my 
favorite moments. 

1250
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,360
I, I audibly popped at that, but
it was very much fun. 

1251
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:45,720
It was a lot of fun. 
And my final score for this is I

1252
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,600
want to get a 7.5 but I got to 
round down to A7. 

1253
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:52,760
That is the rules. 
There we go. 

1254
01:14:52,760 --> 01:14:54,720
All right, seven. 
All righty. 

1255
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,600
Wait, is that your rules? 
No, you could round up if you. 

1256
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,080
I meant more that you couldn't 
give it a 7.5. 

1257
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,720
Oh, I see what you're saying. 
I thought you bet. 

1258
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,080
Yeah, that is had to round out. 
No, he did. 

1259
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:11,880
Yeah, if you don't, if you're 
like, oh, that's I want to give 

1260
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:16,000
it a 7.99, but unfortunately 
I've got to give it a 7. 

1261
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,920
According to the significant 
figures discussion we had 

1262
01:15:20,920 --> 01:15:23,920
earlier, that is correct. 
So the significant figure if it 

1263
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,720
was if you. 
Were into one sick figure, it 

1264
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:27,640
would be an 8, but that's 
neither here nor there. 

1265
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:29,520
No, it's not. 
You're lying. 

1266
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:30,520
Scientists. 
Yeah. 

1267
01:15:31,160 --> 01:15:32,240
I hope like you know. 
Oh. 

1268
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:34,720
God. 
Why would you know this? 

1269
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:35,320
Yeah. 
All right. 

1270
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,200
Go ahead. 
OK, I think I said everything I 

1271
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:43,160
want to say but I am genuinely 
impressed by this show. 

1272
01:15:43,160 --> 01:15:47,680
Like I don't like brain rock 
comedy in this span. 

1273
01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:51,240
Like kind of like miles. 
I I prefer to watch like the 

1274
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:54,720
ghost stories dubbed on YouTube 
in clips then like watching that

1275
01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,920
whole show. 
But this I thought was like 

1276
01:15:56,920 --> 01:16:01,040
creative enough and fun enough 
where it wasn't like a slog that

1277
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:04,320
get through every time. 
Like I finished an episode. 

1278
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,520
I was I pretty much had like a 
smile on my face. 

1279
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,000
Like I was happy that I watched 
that. 

1280
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,320
Like it was fun. 
It was goofy. 

1281
01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:12,360
Some of them were better than 
others. 

1282
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,360
Some of them I thought were like
genuinely great, like Miles 

1283
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:20,320
mentioned earlier, like the the 
phone decoration scene but with 

1284
01:16:20,320 --> 01:16:22,360
the gun. 
I thought that was fantastic. 

1285
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:25,600
I loved like the shootout scene 
with the old people. 

1286
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:27,680
And then there's like the 
mission they're trying to do 

1287
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:29,960
like a mission possible thing. 
They're like actually a 

1288
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:31,520
helicopter can't go through a 
tunnel. 

1289
01:16:31,520 --> 01:16:33,600
Like things like that. 
I don't know like there were 

1290
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:38,920
like a lot of like little like 1
liners thrown throughout the 

1291
01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,040
show that I I thought it was 
great like I generally thought 

1292
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,440
it was funny except for like 
outside of episode 8. 

1293
01:16:44,440 --> 01:16:48,640
I thought this show was good 
great time watching it yeah, but

1294
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,320
give it an 8 yeah, I thought it 
was really funny. 

1295
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,480
I I did, I generally thought 
that there was a decent show 

1296
01:16:53,480 --> 01:17:00,960
all. 
Right, Yeah, did not have very 

1297
01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:03,480
much fun with this. 
I agree with Miles. 

1298
01:17:03,480 --> 01:17:06,360
I thought it was pretty boring 
at large portions of it. 

1299
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:11,680
I think if it were 7 minute 
episodes, yeah, like cut down 

1300
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:15,840
like 1/3 the episode, like like 
do the best of of each episode, 

1301
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,360
I might have enjoyed it a little
bit more. 

1302
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,440
But it, it just made me angry to
watch. 

1303
01:17:20,440 --> 01:17:22,360
I, I, I don't know how else to 
put it. 

1304
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:27,800
Like I, I was getting frustrated
by a lot of the ways it made me 

1305
01:17:27,800 --> 01:17:33,200
feel. 
And yeah, 2 two out of 10 out of

1306
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:34,160
10 for Sabaga. 
Boo. 

1307
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,560
Not the worst thing I've ever 
watched, and nor nor is it fair 

1308
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,880
to say that it's even 
particularly close, I suppose 

1309
01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:42,280
because there are worse things 
out there. 

1310
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:46,120
But I it is not. 
This is not a PAT show, that's 

1311
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,200
for damn sure. 
So yeah, with that, our average 

1312
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:55,600
score between the four of us 
ends up at a 5.25, which is 2 

1313
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:01,960
point O eight or two one sig fig
right miles from the Mal score 

1314
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:05,880
on Mal of a 7.33. 
I think that I think I did that 

1315
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:07,280
right. 
Finally, I I'm sorry to. 

1316
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:11,160
You know, honestly, I will say 
we've been doing absolute shit 

1317
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,400
math this entire time. 
We're not allowed to use 

1318
01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:17,760
decimals yet. 
We use decimals in our averages 

1319
01:18:17,760 --> 01:18:20,840
and we shouldn't because we're 
using one sig fig and we're 

1320
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,080
reporting our overall average in
three sig figs and that's shit 

1321
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:26,560
science. 
We're gonna have to redo every 

1322
01:18:26,560 --> 01:18:27,760
episode of Watch Club we've ever
done. 

1323
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:30,320
Thanks. 
Miles, there we go. 

1324
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:33,720
Well, I told. 
You it'll take to watch six 

1325
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:37,440
years. 
Like to watch through everything

1326
01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:40,320
again. 
Yeah, let's do it, let's do it. 

1327
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:44,400
But yeah, I think that wraps up 
our Sabage Boo Survival Game 

1328
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,560
Club just before Pat Week, too. 
That's a really good idea. 

1329
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:48,480
I like that. 
But yeah, Speaking of what I 

1330
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,520
just said because I'm so good at
this, Miles, we voted on shows 

1331
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,840
that were nominated for Pat 
Week, which was basically 

1332
01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,240
historical anime was the goal of
some kind. 

1333
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:00,920
What, 1? 
And what are we watching two 

1334
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,520
weeks from now, or whatever our 
arbitrary date is? 

1335
01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,760
Because you've got some weird 
schedules coming up for the 

1336
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:08,440
month. 
I'm going to Japan, my bad. 

1337
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:12,080
No, no, it's no blame. 
No blame. 

1338
01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:17,320
I will say you said this was not
your least favorite show, but it

1339
01:19:17,320 --> 01:19:20,920
is the tide for the lowest watch
club show score you've ever 

1340
01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:24,760
given anything with two other 
shows so. 

1341
01:19:25,560 --> 01:19:31,680
There's that I well, thankfully 
we haven't watched Happy Sugar 

1342
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:36,040
Life in Watch Club so. 
We did that. 

1343
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:39,840
That's that that I think I gave 
it A2 in my head. 

1344
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:43,520
It's better than a Rebo I guess.
But OK, so that's we know the 

1345
01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:45,600
range of twos want to talk about
that. 

1346
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,160
Yeah. 
No, no, I know. 

1347
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:51,920
Man really like. 
The moron. 

1348
01:19:52,920 --> 01:19:57,040
Is that if your little sister is
really into loli con incest 

1349
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:00,640
porn, you should encourage that.
That's the moral of Varimo. 

1350
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:05,960
It's just. 
Great show, great show. 

1351
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:14,400
And of course, Blood Blockade, 
Battlefront, we just, I just 

1352
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,640
don't think any of us understood
the plot for that so. 

1353
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,000
No, we did. 
Nobody else does. 

1354
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:22,680
We're we're right. 
We're right about blood 

1355
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:23,760
blockade. 
Everybody else is. 

1356
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:26,480
Wrong. 
OK, OK. 

1357
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,920
I, I mean, I truly believe that 
I think we're right by not 

1358
01:20:28,920 --> 01:20:33,480
understanding the show. 
It's take that for whatever it 

1359
01:20:33,480 --> 01:20:38,640
will. 
OK in that week, Yeah. 

1360
01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,280
So in 3rd place was, and this 
was pretty tight for our top 

1361
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,520
three. 
We had Hell's Paradise, then we 

1362
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:51,960
had Porco Rosso in 2nd and we 
will be watching Hecky Monogram 

1363
01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:57,760
3 as the winner. 
So I think that is generally in 

1364
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,320
the concept. 
Well, actually I know it is 

1365
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:01,600
because it's relatively similar 
to my happy marriage and 

1366
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:06,000
concept, though a little older 
but historical setting with my 

1367
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:09,200
old supernatural themes going on
there. 

1368
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,800
So hopefully you're happy with 
that, Pat I. 

1369
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:16,240
Guess as happy as I could be, I 
don't love supernatural usually,

1370
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:17,280
but we'll see. 
We'll see. 

1371
01:21:17,640 --> 01:21:20,040
It's OK though. 
It's not the same as my happy 

1372
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,360
marriage. 
Yeah, it's, well, they both are.

1373
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:27,520
I just meant like historical 
setting with supernatural like 

1374
01:21:27,520 --> 01:21:31,600
elements in them that that was 
the similarity. 

1375
01:21:32,240 --> 01:21:35,720
We could have pulled through for
Black History Month, you know we

1376
01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,640
could have, but Yaske didn't 
even get on the board. 

1377
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:42,520
No, we actually been. 
Watching it outside. 

1378
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:45,200
I'll be honest with you, it's 
good for Black History Month 

1379
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:49,480
that it didn't get on the board.
Yeah, I I agree. 

1380
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,920
Yoske is actually used to sit 
tie black. 

1381
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,400
I don't know if you do this 
technically. 

1382
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,160
Technically that's not true. 
It was drowned by a black. 

1383
01:22:01,240 --> 01:22:06,200
Just got we just got votes. 
That happened before I 

1384
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:07,400
announced. 
Stop the count. 

1385
01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:14,520
And this would make Porco Rosso 
and Hecky Monogaturi a tot. 

1386
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,520
No, it's too late. 
Oh, it's too late. 

1387
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,160
Means we would. 
Have to pick Yoske. 

1388
01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:26,480
We would have to pick Yoske 
because I agree. 

1389
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:28,760
We had already announced it. 
I've already pinned it. 

1390
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:31,200
Sorry guys. 
That's really fun though that 

1391
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:34,480
that got added in. 
But instead for three months, 

1392
01:22:34,480 --> 01:22:36,960
which is next month, we will be 
doing a show with the female 

1393
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,280
lead. 
So there we go. 

1394
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:40,520
We come full circle. 
I'm excited. 

1395
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,720
A female lead in a historical 
anime, which should be leading 

1396
01:22:44,720 --> 01:22:46,680
to some sort of drama and 
interest. 

1397
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,160
I don't know. 
I'm very curious about this. 

1398
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:49,760
It looks pretty. 
It's awesome. 

1399
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:53,400
So yeah, we'll go from there. 
The, the, the Hickey story or 

1400
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,880
Hickey Monogatry is what we're 
doing. 

1401
01:22:54,880 --> 01:22:58,560
And now unfortunately we have to
wait for Cat week because again 

1402
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:02,040
of our next month's schedule, it
makes a lot of sense for us to 

1403
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:06,600
do our 2 core show when we have 
a very big break and give us our

1404
01:23:06,600 --> 01:23:08,920
give ourselves more time to 
watch those full 2 cores. 

1405
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:12,800
So, Pete, do you have Jolene's 
nomination? 

1406
01:23:12,800 --> 01:23:16,720
Yes, Jolene is nominating ORB. 
Orb All righty, thank you. 

1407
01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:18,200
I didn't. 
I actually did a good show. 

1408
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:19,920
They message you or not. 
So there we go. 

1409
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:22,440
Perfect Orb. 
Orb's our first nomination. 

1410
01:23:22,640 --> 01:23:27,960
Miles, what are you nominating? 
Yeah, every every year we get to

1411
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:33,000
2 core week and I think about 
what I'm going to nominate and I

1412
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:35,040
have all these ideas week to 
week. 

1413
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:36,840
I'm looking through all these 
shows and I'm like, wow, I wish 

1414
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,680
I could I could nominate this 
because but it's 2 core. 

1415
01:23:39,680 --> 01:23:44,120
So I have to wait till 2 core. 
But I have a people, and I have 

1416
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,000
to represent my people during 
this. 

1417
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:52,160
And it doesn't matter how futile
it is, It is my obligation to do

1418
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,000
as such. 
And I wanna make a deal with 

1419
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,760
another group here. 
OK, I'm the stable. 

1420
01:23:57,880 --> 01:24:02,000
I'm going to be nominating. 
You're not the leader of that. 

1421
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,760
I am. 
Are you? 

1422
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:05,680
I don't even, I don't even know 
who the leader of the stable is 

1423
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,120
anymore. 
I don't think either of you guys

1424
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:10,200
are. 
It was Chica, I mean. 

1425
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,320
Someone. 
We have someone literally named 

1426
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,800
Horse Henry in our Maybe they're
the leader. 

1427
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:18,400
Congratulations Henry, you are 
now the leader of the stable. 

1428
01:24:20,440 --> 01:24:22,080
But I wouldn't you, you are 
right. 

1429
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,600
In exchange stable 4 votes for 
Higurashi. 

1430
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:32,640
When they cry Kai, I will 
nominate any fucking remaining 

1431
01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:37,000
Uma Mussame properties that you 
so desire for me to nominate 

1432
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:41,760
until they win. 
If we watch Higurashi When they 

1433
01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:46,440
cry Kai and you all 
motherfuckers voted for it. 

1434
01:24:46,440 --> 01:24:53,600
I see the vote. 
So I can contingency this and I,

1435
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,960
I'm a man of my word. 
I will be honest, but you can't 

1436
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,680
back yourself into this 
accidentally. 

1437
01:24:59,680 --> 01:25:04,240
There has to be an effort. 
You understand me as I will for 

1438
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:05,800
the last three years. 
I will vote. 

1439
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,120
I will nominate. 
It has 2 legacy points. 

1440
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:12,320
Higurashi when they cry. 
Kai Part 2. 

1441
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:17,040
The the one with like a whole 
point higher than the original 

1442
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:21,560
season on Mal. 
Your show is already in the 

1443
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:23,640
lead, so there you go with that 
legacy. 

1444
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:30,280
If no one votes, I win. 
That's maybe you should tell 

1445
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,160
people to. 
Do that Miles goes on do not 

1446
01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:34,440
disturb for two weeks. 
And just like. 

1447
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,640
Doesn't doesn't give me 
notifications. 

1448
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:42,000
What was I supposed to do? 
Blocks all the Ms. Yeah that 

1449
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,240
weird all the no one messaged me
this. 

1450
01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:50,400
Week I don't tell anyone to 
message me, just keep it just 

1451
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:56,120
absolute inside job. 
And I would barely be able to 

1452
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,960
stop you. 
Truthfully, there would be 

1453
01:25:57,960 --> 01:26:01,880
almost nothing I could do. 
Cat, what are you nominating? 

1454
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:09,360
Yeah, as a as a person who that 
proudly proclaims himself to be 

1455
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:16,200
a part of the anti fascist 
movement, being a part of the 

1456
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:21,840
alternate group that is able to 
empower the voices of those who 

1457
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:25,640
are oppressed, be able to 
protect those that need 

1458
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:30,240
protecting from overbearing 
groups. 

1459
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:34,400
Oh fuck you. 
Oh fuck you. 

1460
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:44,720
You gotta make you gotta make a 
a a a a black civil rights 

1461
01:26:44,760 --> 01:26:47,560
leader Nominate something about 
Nazism. 

1462
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:51,560
No, I'm not in Cowboy. 
Wait, are you a black civil 

1463
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,520
rights leader? 
No. 

1464
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,120
OK, All right, cool. 
Pete, what are you dominating? 

1465
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,480
Probably be Bop's a great show 
and I can't wait to vote for it.

1466
01:27:02,560 --> 01:27:04,400
But Pete, go ahead. 
What's? 

1467
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:07,600
Quick question, Pat, are you, 
were you also thinking about 

1468
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,160
nominating Yona? 
I thought about it with the show

1469
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,240
with it coming up, but no, I 
have two other options that 

1470
01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:18,880
we're still split on, so we'll 
get. 

1471
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:21,400
OK, if you're gonna do Yona, I 
also do my other show, but if 

1472
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:22,760
not, I'm gonna do Yona of the 
Dawn. 

1473
01:27:23,360 --> 01:27:24,720
Good choice. 
I would, I would love. 

1474
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:29,640
To Yeah, I like that, yeah. 
Are we still laughing about what

1475
01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:30,680
just happened? 
Yeah, 'cause I. 

1476
01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,120
'Cause like, is this like poor 
cat? 

1477
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:36,120
His ADHD brain just didn't get 
he, he was just thinking of the 

1478
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,240
fact that he's black, the fact 
that like civil rights are a 

1479
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:42,560
thing and he just accidentally 
called himself a civil rights 

1480
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:43,800
leader. 
I'm like are. 

1481
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:48,400
You doing something that I don't
know. 

1482
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,080
I feel a. 
Bunch of shit y'all don't. 

1483
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:56,880
I got married and y'all didn't. 
Fucking know. 

1484
01:27:56,880 --> 01:28:00,120
Yes I did. 
You told us named after. 

1485
01:28:01,960 --> 01:28:05,280
No, you didn't. 
You told us immediately. 

1486
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,760
After I got married, yeah. 
No, someone else nominated a 

1487
01:28:12,760 --> 01:28:16,600
show and here in. 2. 
Albert, I think that has like a 

1488
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:18,720
feature or something like that 
where he's just telling us 

1489
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:20,160
things that's like, you didn't 
do this. 

1490
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,560
It's like we were all there and 
we witnessed this. 

1491
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,520
No, no. 
So like as someone with bad 

1492
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,840
ADHD, Ted has worse ADHD than I 
do. 

1493
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:35,000
So and as someone who just 
sometimes forgets things that 

1494
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:39,440
happened 5 seconds ago, that 
means cat probably forgets 

1495
01:28:39,440 --> 01:28:41,560
things that happened 3 seconds 
ago or so. 

1496
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,880
And unfortunately, sometimes 
that's you're just stringing 

1497
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:48,080
your words. 
You're trying to think of the 

1498
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:52,760
word and and then you forgot 
what the previous word was. 

1499
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,880
Podcasting is hard. 
Like sometimes like talking for 

1500
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:58,520
an hour and a half is like 
tough. 

1501
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:00,920
And I get it. 
I just thought it was funny as 

1502
01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:01,760
hell. 
What cat says you? 

1503
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:08,040
Know it was very funny. 
All right, Miles, what are you 

1504
01:29:08,040 --> 01:29:17,080
nominating? 
Damn it, Pat. 

1505
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:20,440
See, I was wondering, I was 
like, I was like, did I? 

1506
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:22,280
Did I forget? 
Because that could have 

1507
01:29:22,280 --> 01:29:25,280
happened. 
You know, it's 1000° in my room.

1508
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,200
We should wrap up. 
Yeah. 

1509
01:29:27,880 --> 01:29:30,440
We should. 
I want to eat dinner so. 

1510
01:29:30,440 --> 01:29:36,040
Well, Yeah, Good, good ending 
for sure. 

1511
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,160
I thought about doing Roz I fond
because I'm just so curious 

1512
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,160
still after. 
All this time I would like to 

1513
01:29:42,200 --> 01:29:44,720
that movie, Oh my God. 
Like just. 

1514
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,680
See, like because we haven't, 
it's been so long, I guarantee 

1515
01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:48,880
you none of us remember the 
movie. 

1516
01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:52,440
But I don't think any of our 
current listeners remember the 

1517
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:55,280
movie or us talking about it. 
So I don't think it would win. 

1518
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:58,520
So instead, I'm going to do a 
show that I have just put off 

1519
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:01,480
finishing for a very long time 
that I think would be really fun

1520
01:30:01,480 --> 01:30:03,800
to talk about. 
And I know you guys love to talk

1521
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,240
about it. 
Code Geass le Lucha the 

1522
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,880
Rebellion will be my nomination.
Season 1, obviously. 

1523
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:10,560
I thought you finished. 
It's split two. 

1524
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:14,240
I'm at episode 20. 
And then I paused it like five 

1525
01:30:14,240 --> 01:30:17,600
years ago and never finished it.
So no, I'm not finished. 

1526
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:18,840
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1527
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,480
And episode 20 is a great place 
to stop, you know? 

1528
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:22,400
Yeah. 
No, no. 

1529
01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,560
I wish I did. 
I wish I did, but I did not. 

1530
01:30:24,560 --> 01:30:27,480
And now it's like, I would have 
to go back to rewatch it, you 

1531
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:30,640
know, I, I, there's just no way 
I can pick it up and be like, Oh

1532
01:30:30,640 --> 01:30:32,680
yeah, that's happening right 
now. 

1533
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,240
I would like to talk about it 
with you guys and I'd like a 

1534
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:39,840
person to force me to watch it. 
So that's what we're doing with 

1535
01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:41,160
Code Geass. 
So yeah. 

1536
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:47,560
Anything else before we wrap up?
I mean, Cat, give us a quote 

1537
01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,400
that that you'd like to be a 
world wise, you know. 

1538
01:30:50,640 --> 01:30:53,440
What did I hit us with? 
Your version of the I Have a 

1539
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:58,520
Dream speech please. 
Or something you had had you 

1540
01:30:58,520 --> 01:31:01,000
perished, had you not persisted,
like give us something like 

1541
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:06,360
please. 
All right, That's it for Watch 

1542
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:07,280
Club. 
Thank you so much. 

1543
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:30,800
Oh my God, we think we're really
funny. 

1544
01:31:32,920 --> 01:31:34,640
That was funny. 
I don't care what anybody says, 

1545
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,000
that was funny as fuck. 
Thank you. 

1546
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:37,840
Thank you. 
I try. 

1547
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:41,880
Do you actually have a quote or 
do you should we move on before?

1548
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:43,880
No, I don't have a fucking 
quote. 

1549
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:45,800
All right, there we go. 
That's all I need to hear. 

1550
01:31:45,800 --> 01:31:48,600
Miles, thank you for Co hosting 
with me. 

1551
01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:50,720
I don't know why I are Co 
moderating with me. 

1552
01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:53,640
I don't know why I said anything
I and tried to kick it to you. 

1553
01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:55,760
It's Pete who I usually kick it 
to here. 

1554
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:57,160
Thank you for listening to watch
Club. 

1555
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,720
That's it for us. 
What have you got to say, Pete? 

1556
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:01,480
Yeah, and here's my civil rights
quote. 

1557
01:32:01,480 --> 01:32:03,440
If you want to support us, the 
best way to do so, like, 

1558
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:05,600
comment, subscribe, leave a 
review on whatever platform 

1559
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,360
you're watching or listening to 
us on. 

1560
01:32:07,680 --> 01:32:10,880
Next week we're doing Cosmic, 
for instance, Cocky. 

1561
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:20,720
I don't know. 
I guess I'm like, cancel. 

1562
01:32:20,720 --> 01:32:22,000
Who knows? 
We'll see. 

1563
01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:24,360
We'll see if there's another 
episode after this, we'll find 

1564
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,440
out. 
Who knows, but yeah, we're doing

1565
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,560
print Cosmic Princess Kagia next
week and then we'll be doing 

1566
01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,560
like a bunch of like we'll be 
sprinkling in some stuff. 

1567
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,000
It will look normal to you, but 
I'm going to Japan in two weeks.

1568
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,080
So we don't have like some weird
schedules coming up and some 

1569
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,600
some stuff going on. 
But you'll get the content that 

1570
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:44,120
you want and we'll make the 
content that we want to make and

1571
01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,720
some be a win win for everybody.
So thank you on behalf of 

1572
01:32:46,720 --> 01:32:48,480
everybody and we will see you 
next time. 

1573
01:32:51,720 --> 01:32:52,400
Bye, bye, bye bye.