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We'll be reviewing the 2014 comedy Sagebu.
Let's meet today's airsoft enthusiast first up, he's the
reason why we watch this show and I think a few of us are
going to thank him and a few of us are going to strangle him.
We got cat cat. How's it going?
I'm. Doing great.
It's almost the end of my first month as the director of my
company and mentally I'm doing a lot better.
And also, I love bad shows, and this was so much fun.
I don't think this show's bad, but yeah.
Yeah, I was gonna say I like the show so well, but some, some
people might not. I Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're not at that point. Yet.
Not yet, not yet. We'll get to it, don't worry.
Our first moderator tonight, he kept murmuring.
Oh God, I wish that was me every time Platy was on screen,
whatever that means. We got miles.
Miles, how's it going? Take that.
The show needed more platy. So yes, like it.
It's going OK. We're doing OK.
I think this is the closest to air time that I have ever
finished a show. I pulled a pat and finished this
like 6 minutes before this moment.
That's where we're at. That's perfectly fine, just like
my work ethic, as long as it gets done.
I don't care when you do it though.
And Pat? Which one's platy?
The Platypus. Are you serious?
That's not a duck. Dude that's a platypus.
There's an entire episode dedicated to how it's a
platypus. Right.
This MF did not watch the show. I guess not.
That episode.
Coma como. OK, He's platypus.
OK, OK. I guess he's a mysterious
creature that looks like a platypus did.
You not notice what they call the platy every time he was on
screen and. Then the episode where she's
trying to hunt him down and find his weakness, they start putting
up a bunch of platypus facts on the screen with like, yeah,
actual real platypus images. Yeah.
I did, you know. Look, I forgot a lot about what
was said in the show too. Don't worry about it.
I don't remember what was real or not.
With this show. My bad on that one then.
Sabage Buu Survival game Club anime that aired in the summer
2014 season done by Studio Piro. Plus source from a manga.
Genres of action, comedy, cute girls doing cute things, school
and a demographic of shojo. Rated PG13.
Boy that was needed. Why don't we start with our
first impressions? Miles, what did you think about
Survival Game Club? Yeah, so I, I watched the first
episode and the second episode about a week and a half ago and
I thought the show was going to be complete ass going into it.
And I watched the first episode and I was like, that was pretty
funny. Like there was definitely some
like this is ass quality to it. But I was like, I I laughed a
bit and then the second episode happened and I paused it like
halfway through and I was like, I'm not going to like this show.
Unfortunately, this is this is not the show for me.
It is like sometimes you see a show and it has one joke like
One Punch Man and you think it's funny.
And then sometimes you see a show that has one joke like
Spaghy Boo and you don't think it's funny.
And then I I got to today where I watched the rest of the show
and I didn't think it was very funny.
That whole build up, are you like, I thought you would be
like and it was incredible. It's like, Nah, that shit.
There are definitely moments I thought were funny but I I I
call it The Simpsons movie effect.
I remember when I went to see The Simpsons movie but I guess I
don't know how many there have been at this point but the
spider pig one the first Simpsons movie as.
Far as I know, we're getting a second.
Yeah, OK, OK, cool. Anyways, I went to see what is,
as of now, The Simpsons Movie, and the entire time I was like
kind of chuckling. And then, like, I, me and my
friend Ryan, we leave and he was like, oh, did you think that was
funny? And I was like, yeah.
And he was like, what did you think was funny?
I was like. Shut up, other, shut up.
That's good thing. That's good thing.
Anything. The Rock and the Hard Place joke
is pretty funny. That I do remember that one.
Yeah, that's a good one. That's about what I remember
from it. Other thing like spider pig, but
that doesn't count 'cause that was in the commercials.
And so I think the humor, it was sort of like that for me where I
like would find things funny in the moment, but nothing really
stuck with me. I had to do a lot of soul
searching before this episode to try to remember what I thought
was funny or not. This sort of does the thing.
Wait, I'll get into it later. It's fine.
Those are my first impressions. What I recommend this has.
You'll have a great time, buddy. Yeah.
This is a hash show 100% and. That yeah, that's what I got.
All right, Kat, what about you? Yeah, man, my first thought when
I was looking at a show that was going for something that we had
never seen before was going through a random cobbled
together thing that I'd made like a couple of years ago for
if we had to do a show that none of us had seen.
Because I thought that would come up a lot sooner than this.
And I was like, all right, I'm going to sit on this.
Two moves later, like 2 moving households later, I finally get
to use that and we come up with somebody.
Boo. I generally thought this was
going to be ass. I generally did.
I had a lot of fun. One of the episodes, you know,
was standing. I thought it was a lot of fun.
I am a fairly easy person to please when it comes to comedy,
anime, especially a slice of life.
Plus there was a point in my life where I was a gun nut.
So there's a little bit of a little bit of fan service there.
But yeah. Would I recommend it?
Probably not. Honestly.
It's like it's fun, but it's one of the it's like listening to
AJR. You don't recommend them to your
friends. I don't know what we're talking
about. That is the whitest thing Kat
has ever said. Yeah.
What's AJR? There are bands.
They're they're a band, yeah. That one of their one of their
best songs is called the Dumb Song, where they were making
fun, they were trying to make fun of their critics and they
made the Best Song from it. They have.
My people everyday from cat. A a very fun cover of All
American Bitch that I like. So.
Yeah, by Olivia Rodrigo. I just remember them using the
like SpongeBob I'm Ready as the backdrop to one of their songs.
Yeah, I'm gonna keep it real. If we talk AGR for another
minute, I'm gonna blow my ass off.
OK. OK.
So I think my favorite AJ. OK, sorry.
Pete, what's your favorite AGR song?
The one that I don't have to listen to.
But. So all of them.
Don't step on my touch tone call.
None of them. They're all bad.
That beta is trash. I'm sorry.
Actually, I'm not sorry that beta is trash.
That. Man is trash I think, but I
think they're inoffensive is yeah.
Tennis, Wilson would absolutely say.
That So my first impressions of Sagaebu.
All right, here we go. I tried.
I tried to get there. I I appreciate it.
So coming in to us, I thought that I knew it was a comedy and
I knew it was kind of silly, but I thought it was like a cute
girls doing cute things, silly comedy thing like after school
dice club or something like that along those lines.
And then it ended up being, oh, Nokoton stole all of their
material from this show. That makes a lot of sense.
I love this show. I also have one episode.
I thought this show was fantastic.
I think it's structured in a way by like in terms of first
impressions, it's structured in a way where it's small burst of
like brain rock comedy, which is fantastic because I don't want,
I don't want a 24 episode show of brain rock comedy.
I want like 3-7 minute little stories, which is what the show
did. It was great.
It broke it up. Each little thing that they did
was mostly fun and some of them I thought it was actually well
crafted in a sense. I like this show way more than I
thought it would. I would recommend the shows.
If you thought no Catan sucked but you still want a show that's
like Nokoton, check out Sage Moo I.
I think this is a genuinely very funny show.
Do I? Think this is better than
Nokoton? I actually lowered my score of
Nokoton because of everything that Nokoton does.
They just stole from the show. Like all the tropes are stolen
from this show Ivory character. No, Katan joke isn't in this, so
for whatever that's worth, I was.
Under the impression. It's the one where it just.
Cuts from. You look, the very first time
they do the exact intro for Maria Watches over Us, and then
they have no Katan show up. And I thought that was very
funny. And it was all downhill from
there. Yeah, I think it has 11 joke and
it's the reference to the quasi obscure 1990s theory Pat.
What's your first? Impression, Thank you.
I thought nothing could take me off of the high that I was
feeling yesterday, winning our second hockey gold medal of the
weekend for the States. You know, never thought I'd see
that in my lifetime. I haven't seen it in my
lifetime. This this show brought me all
the way back down to reality very quickly.
I I've I'm very upset that I had to watch this to to put it
bluntly, I don't think it was very funny at all.
I think it has its cake and eats it too when it tries to, you
know, make jokes and parody the genre.
And I think it's pretty gross throughout most of it as well.
So I would not recommend this show in any capacity to anybody
other than I, I guess has. That's a good point.
This is a has show, isn't it? Like, yeah.
And that's not a reflection on has in my opinion.
And I'm not trying to say it is maybe it, yeah, but like not in
the way that I just described it, but.
Like complementary in parentheses.
Yeah, yeah, like again, like, well, like so like, yeah, where,
where were, were you alluding to it?
But like the if a flag breaks or.
Invaders of Roku Jima Roku. Jima, yeah, that's stupid show,
pardon my French. Yeah, those if you like those
kinds of shows, go for it. That's a that's a has show right
there. And all power to you, buddy.
I hope you enjoy this show because I'm sure someone will
tell you to watch it in our Discord in the next couple
weeks. But yeah, that's about all I
have to say in terms of introductory stuff before we get
to the main role. So I think is that 1 1/2
recommends sort of one has recommend thrown in there and
couple, couple recommends. I don't really know that that
was hard to keep track of, but he.
Said he would recommend it. Pat said this is AJR and Pete
then said if we talk about AJR for one more second he'll blow
his brains out. So you can view that as a
recommend if you want. True, but I wouldn't.
And then I said I should watch this.
So there we. Go yeah, we're we're coming full
circle on this. But yeah, so let's talk about
spoilers for Sapag a Boo survival game club Miles, do you
have a synopsis? I, I I don't I'm not going to
ask you. I want you to read the very
first two. Sentences.
I just want that. Please.
Because because it really just paints a picture for what I
think. Sort of sum up the show on the
train to her new middle school. Oh, these girls are in middle
school? Yep.
Yeah, it's the best. Oh wow, I pulled a fruba.
I thought this was high school the whole time.
That's my bad. Wait, why is why is the
president 18 she got? Held back, they they say in her
name it. Says like 18 I I thought she got
like held back like once. To be fair that does make the
joke funnier because it's like has to be like 4 times but.
I also think the synopsis is wrong.
I'm pretty sure they're all in high school because they
mentioned the high school name multiple.
Yeah, 'cause they say JK right? Like the the creepy like pedo
guys say JK. So yeah, the synopsis is wrong
and they are in high school. Unless it's like one of those
mega schools where it's like middle school and high school
are together. I don't know.
Let's hope not. Let's.
Hope not, you never know. Strange to her new school,
Momoka Sonukawa is preyed upon by a molester, only to be
rescued by a girl wielding dual pistols.
Anyways, she realizes that this girl is like the leader of their
their school survival club, which is basically where they
play airsoft. And then the show ends up being
a gag comedy involving them basically shooting airsoft guns
and being preyed upon by molesters.
Is is sort of the synopsis of most episodes in in some sort of
order. It's an Academy, so all grades.
OK. It's been solved.
Yeah. So it's sort of a, it's like
structured sort of like a, a short, but they've like cobbled
enough shorts together for like full length episodes.
And I almost just had a reaction where I had to do something but
I I've chosen not to and it's actually bothering.
We're so good at this, you know, after years and years of doing
this club, you know, I think. About how to talk, Do you need?
Do you need? Help getting to the the first
talking. I get emotional thinking about
the show too. Miles.
Like right? You're a compulsion right now.
It elicits. Well, I was just like, you know,
I was thinking about episode 4. Man, Really got.
Me anyways, it's I feel like it's like Psyche K and where
it's a show that is like when it was aired in Japan, it was like
a short, but it like it's been cobbled together to be a full
length show. There's something I would like
to talk about at some point how I feel like I would have liked
the show more if we had just gotten like the 12th best of
these shorts. But yeah, that that's more or
less it Pete, I'm gonna I'm gonna put you on the spot now.
We like to to be positive here at what do you say anime we
often we off Yeah, unless it's AJR or OP sabage Boo.
But we're gonna start off on a good note here.
Pete. I want you to talk about the
show and cat, you could join in. You like the show.
You did say it was AJR though, so I am getting conflicting
messages, but I I want to hear you guys talking about what you
liked about the show and you can even throw it to Pat and I if
you think that it's something we might have enjoyed about the
show. Well, I'm not passing it to Pat.
You might want to, Yeah. I have the things I enjoyed
about this show in isolation, so please, if you need to pass it
to me, OK. I didn't give it a one, I didn't
give it a 1. So that's.
True, you did not give it a one. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
So that's the end of the show thing.
So what do you like? What do you like about Sebage
Boo? I I guess I could start OK, a
couple things that miles alluded to where it's like they do the
one joke and you either find it super funny or not.
I like the fact that like when like mobile cut as a character,
I think it's just great and like this great in terms of like this
is a brain rock comedy and she's kind of a shitty person, but
like it's fine because that's like.
Awesome. Kind of like Mobica, like Cosmo
would be like the type of dude would be like he'd be do like
shitty things, but like if mega mean was still on the ground,
like he would run and pick her up and bring her home type of
thing. Mobica multiple times leaves
people to like for dead. I'll put that in quotation
marks. You know, where she just like,
oh, this is there's like a there's a specific line where
she says like, this is my joke where I thought that she was
MAGA was like, as long as like I'm happy, it's fine type of
thing was like her quote. I think it's like episode 10 or
11. She's like, well, as long as
whatever is affecting me positively is doing so, then
it's OK. And everyone around her is like,
are you stupid? So Momoka as like a main lead is
a huge point. I love the fact that she just
like shoots people in the head when she gets annoyed by them
and like that just solves the problem because they like die
for an episode or die for a scene type of thing.
I I really like, I really enjoyed that.
There's a couple of scenes where when you have like brain rot
comedy, you're kind of just like putting yourself in like the
dumbest situations possible, which can be tough because then
you have to think of a bunch of different stupid situations to
begin with. And I thought they did a good
enough job at like creating scenarios in the show where it's
like outlandish and dumb and fun.
Like my favorite scene is episode 11 when Platy and the
crab team up and just we're like, now we're taking everybody
on. It's like, this is my boy, this
crab is my boy and I'm going to war for my boy.
And then they they have like that shootout scene that I
didn't realize was in the show. I'm like, oh, this is the scene
from this show. Like, Oh my God, it was like
great. I mean, outside of episode 8, I
really enjoyed every at least some part of every episode in
this show. So.
Yeah. Yeah, here's the thing.
This show, part of it was I was running high on it because I
don't remember the last time I won in a for watch club stuff
and riding high on that for the entire for watching the entire
show. Yeah.
Is it going to mess with me on rewatch is absolutely.
I'm not going to remember that. But I thought that it was very
fun to just be like, oh, hey, that's a Mac 11.
Oh shit, they actually. Got the name of the gun right,
that's fun. And then like a having like the
Glock and whatever. But also I loved some of the
some of some of like the tertiary characters like the the
class president where she's just she's like going after the club
president the entire time. And it's almost like every other
person in this club is a terrible person, save for the
model. And she's just like she's just
the best part of this entire club.
Why am I trying to do this? And then it kind of goes full
circle around where the episode 12 where Momoka is like
basically feels like kind of like a COVID situation, but
that's hindsight rather than, you know, they didn't they
didn't have COVID in time her. Auto tune was COVID.
I mean, well, yeah. Well, auto tune, her auto tune
is COVID. If you smoke for 20 years, there
were there was a lot of a lot of scenes in the show where I was
just sitting there and dying laughing specifically where
after I think it was like after episode 5, they kind of like
stop reminding you that, hey, this is just their imagination
and move. And I think they moved on to
like episode episode 12 before reiterating again.
And that was before, you know, the the idol becomes basic like
King Kong fighting budgets like that was that was one of the
moments where I just started bang laughing on my couch.
But then again, I've also I also enjoyed dumb comedy.
Like that. So, yeah.
So I, I mean, I agree. I think Momika has a lot of very
funny moments, like the, like, it's just any given scene where
people are helping her, they'll cut to her like in her monologue
and she's like, thinking about how she can kill them and like,
you know, make the situation better for herself.
And I, I do think that's very funny.
I liked the shootout between her and her mom and her mom that one
episode. I thought some of the scenes
were good. Cat, To answer your question,
the last time you won was Helsing in January of last year
and. The three months.
The time before that was Domestic Girlfriend in 2024.
Holy. Banger what kids?
Cat. Was once last year.
Correct in January. I only won a few times too, I'm
pretty sure. Yeah, we're not fucking talking
about you, Pat. Well, I'm just saying like
there's a, there's a clear, there's like I think like 40% go
to pizza, go to go to miles. Maybe nominee better shows?
Four times last year, Pat. I won four times.
Really. Yeah, now you won zero times in
the year of our Lord 2024. That's what it was.
So, but yeah, that was but you won four times.
You've actually won quite a bit recently with like Lazarus and
Zombieland Saga. You you did Steins Kate and you
did Spirited away from last year.
So. Wow, some hard, really nice
shows I'm picking and winning with yeah, I I have some I have
something nice to say about Sabagi Boo that's not like
ironic or satirical in in the context of what I'm saying Let.
Me hit you with a, I thought. Wait, Wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait. All right, I'll hit it.
You don't want to. OK, that's fine.
I can keep it to myself. No, I thought it was.
I thought the dialogue, I will give that like from a comedy
perspective, I thought some of the dialogue was very well
written. Like you guys were mentioning
with Momica. Her inner monologues were very
funny. I appreciate that she was not
like a good person. The show kind of tries to frame
it at the end, I feel like as if she has a little redemption arc
in that last battle Avengers Assemble kind of thing.
I kind of 'cause she still lives and gets to redeem herself,
right? Like I well.
What? Happens is she goes, I don't
deserve this and her friends go, yeah, we know, but you're kind
of fun. Which is sort of the opinion we
all seem to have of MoMA cups. Like it's like, I think, I think
I, I think I get where she's coming from, but like also she
everybody just kind of looks at her and goes, Nah, you just
you're fun to you're fun to smoke a bowl with all.
Right, fair enough. But to get back to, I guess my
more important point, I thought the dialogue between them was
usually pretty witty, at least to some degree.
I didn't always love the contents of the dialogue about
what they were talking about or the the same tits jokes and, you
know, like just forced humor that I've that I was frustrated
by. But I I'm trying to call, I'm
trying to compliment it. I'm sorry.
Oh, so you didn't compliment it at all?
I did the dialogue. I thought the dialogue was
pretty funny at times like it when it wasn't doing the things
that it annoyed me with. I I get I I don't know.
I'm sorry. I'm.
Trying I. Promise you I am.
I like this for 20%. The 80% I fucking hated with a
passion. Yeah, it's, I mean, this show is
insulting to me at times. So I, I, I agree.
They're they're color palettes, good color palettes used in the
show too. There, there we go.
Compliment sandwich. There we go.
All right. Yeah, I don't know.
I I generally thought, yeah, I mean, there are specific moments
that I I thought were funny, like when Mio comes in on the
Lion, I thought that was funny. And then the completely end of.
The cafe after that? Yes, exactly.
The first couple of moments where they start like the first
few times they did like the surprise headshots, like I
thought it was funny. I think they sort of over relied
on that sort of thing. They're I liked the president
episode where she like was trying to go to each member of
the club to like get it defunded.
And she sort of like changed her persona to try to like, figure
out like how to get them to like turn on and like in, in that
like, Momika turns on the group, like immediately where she's
like trying to sow discord. And Momika is just like, yeah,
yeah, fuck those girls. I'm with you.
That's fine. Something they really like to
them to begin with. Right.
Like, that's sort of the the Momika bit.
And then like the cosplaying thing with Kayo where she's
like, oh, like I'm cosplaying. And she's like just in her
schoolgirl outfit, but she has like a mask on.
And then she just pulls out a suitcase she had in case someone
wanted to cosplay with her. Like, I thought that was funny.
The the back to the headshot thing.
I did think it was funny when Momoka shot all the cats, the
cat aliens. I thought that was pretty funny.
I liked the bit where they were going back and forth with the
lady who like decorates your phones because Momoka forgot
that she just had a gun in her in her bag.
And so they were like shoot like what really happened versus like
the like Yakuza interpretation of it.
There were a lot of Western jokes in this too, like based on
like Star Wars and Predator and like a lot of Arnold
Schwarzenegger stuff, which I thought was kind of fun.
Like I this might be the first time I saw like a direct
reference to Star Wars in an anime where they were just like
like, and it wasn't even localized.
Like she goes like Ben like like Ben Kenobi when she gets like
the little vision of her whatever, right?
There were like lots of funny moments for me and this and I'm
I'm going to be interested when we get to talking about episode
8 because to me almost every episode was secretly episode 8,
but like. Real quick though, for what
you're saying, like some of the Western things like did you
notice like in episode 12, the the the the national survival
Club, they're dressed like counter terrorists from counter
strike, like identical. I was just like, OK, so I I
wanted to do some research on the manga before coming into
this. So I was like, OK, this manga,
since it's labeled the show Joe, I figured it was a a woman
writer and it was but so I figured like it was like some
Western Boo or Westa Boo like loves American culture,
especially guns since it's heavily featured in the show.
So that I checked out this manga.
She's an animal rights activist. Like what the fuck?
She she now writes. She now writes.
A. She writes a manga, so she
lives. She has 10 cats and dogs, and
she writes a new manga about her life living with 10 cats and
dogs. And then she's an animal rights
activist. I was like, I got played so
hard. I thought you were going to be
like this conservative Westaboo. It's like, no, it's a loving
animal rights activist made this shell.
OK but this weird because she had the pro hunting episode it.
Doesn't make any. Well, I mean, I mean there are
some of them that are like are pro hunting for like actually
like collecting meat and stuff like that.
Like that's a thing. It's not just killing to kill.
I guess you could you could view it as anti poaching.
Let's do it. We're working really hard for
this show's message. Well, I had a child.
In particular, has an animal rights story to it.
That's true. That's.
Amazing. But this one doesn't.
Yeah, I would have expected some sort of like, very W like
everything is about guns and tanks and helicopters.
She loves helicopters. The first time a helicopter
showed up, I thought it was very funny in in the episode where
the girl's tampon broke. But like episode.
Yeah, that's surprising to me that.
Well, no, that's not the first episode.
Oh no, no, no. Just another scene with a
helicopter. No, it's 12.
Where I I want to make it clear I I thought it was funny the
first time a helicopter. You just think it's funny when
the Crab was flying a helicopter and Platy was on the machine
gun. I thought that was funny because
the crab was flying a helicopter. 1.
Absolutely. And then they RPG it, which an
RPG and airsoft like that again, like that's a funny, funny
little little nod, little gag there, right?
Like you, they're playing airsoft, but they're using RPGs
and taking down helicopters. I guess that's all in their head
again, though, but still like, so how do you not have that in
real life? You know, So what it?
So this is all we could have friends in airsoft.
They do have quote UN quote RPGs in airsoft, but they basically
use a potato gun. So so not an RPG.
It's not an RPG, but it's basically a potato.
Like it's not gonna fucking take down a helicopter, but they.
You know I have a black card but it's actually just 5 bucks in my
wallet. You know, helicopters aren't
that tanky. They they, they are not that
great for safety. So honestly, the an airsoft
potato gun, whatever it is, might actually take down a
helicopter. You don't know.
We don't know. I mean, fuck, yeah, this is we
give it. All right.
What's the next topic, Miles?
I'm sorry, not or unless we're staying on it.
Yeah, no, I mean, I think, I think we we we got to talk about
like our bits and stuff. I don't know, Pete Cat, did you
have like a favorite member of the OK Cat?
You said your favorite was the the model or was it?
Moment cat No, no, no, no. I I didn't say I've ever was the
model. My favorite was KO the the
cosplayer. Oh, the the smart girl.
OK, Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, I was saying
that everyone like during the episode where the the student
council president was doing her rounds with the class with like
the survival club and trying to get it like defunded and all
that. Maya the model was was the least
problematic. Yeah, I will.
I will say I liked KYO until she talked about the specific heat
of oxygen, but then they called it the atomic and everyone knows
that atmospheric oxygen is of course diatomic and so she
should have used the word molecule.
Idiot took the words right out of my mouth.
I mean, that was that. That bothered me more than
almost anything else in this show, so I'm glad someone else
addressed. It I'm not sure what it says
about me, but that is up on my list.
Does that upset you more or less than the shooting the high
schooler and the boobs like? I will say it does bother me
more than the shooting in the boobs.
Yeah, probably less than the like the Panny shot crew that
existed, Yeah. But more than the shooting in
the. What I have learned is when I
first started my foray into anime and there was like a lot
of jokes about how big girls boobs were.
And I was like, this feels like something women wouldn't do.
And as I have interacted more with women in my life, I've
realized that that's something a lot of women do.
So I just sort of I think it's weird still, but I'll give it a
pass. The boob jokes specifically
because it just it just seems to exist a lot.
So that being said, I think we should talk about Pete.
I would like to know your specific issues with episode 8.
Where there there. So for clarity, the the plot of
the subsection of episode 8, Pete has an issue with that.
I'm sure we all have a bit of an issue with is Momica becomes a
model. She's an amateur model and there
is a group of photographers who are known to try to find these
amateur models and take panty shots and like sell them online
or whatever. This episode does in fact
sexualize Momica a bit. But I guess my point would be
when thinking about Episode 8 in the context of the rest of the
show, So do like seven other episodes in this and at least
this one, she gets to beat up the guys who are sexualizing
her. You know, So like, it's not
great, but it does technically have the moral of this is bad.
And which is I think where Pat was sort of referring to it like
having your cake and eating it too, where the show is sort of
like, OK, like it is wrong to to sexualize these these girls.
And then it it a lot of the time it sexualizes the girls in other
contexts. They're just cute girls doing
cute things, but then they're also just panty shots are
almost, you know, like one of the first scenes of the show is
about a thing molested on a train.
And instead of like they they are relatively discreet with
that. But then they have the woman
come in and save her and first thing you see is her doing like
a whole high, high kick and you see like or or crotch front and
center of the screen. And it's it's like, why?
Why are we? She's wearing shorts.
I feel like we have this conversation all the time that
we like over sexualize things that are just like, it's just a
girl wearing shorts and she kicks somebody like I, I, I
don't know, I, I don't, I, I get stuff like episode 8, but that
scene, I think we're stretching. We're reaching really hard, like
'cause like, OK, so here's my thing with episode 3, it was
like a thing with like her gaining a bunch of weight.
And then they were making these jokes of how she should lose all
this weight. And the, the joke was she should
just throw up. Like she should just throw up
after meals. And that was like the joke.
And I was like, huh. Like I, I, I was kind of
confused by like, are they, are they being serious or is it a
joke? Like I, I really didn't know
what they were going for with that.
And then episode 8 came around and it was the joke.
I'll put this in quotations for like, the joke.
Like the bit was like, these creepy dudes love sexualizing
these girls and trying to get up shirt UPS, got up shots, skirt
shots, whatever. And I thought they were going to
go the route of they weren't going to show anything because
like that defeats the entire purpose of like what this
episode is going to mean. And then they do it anyway.
So then I'm like, well, what's the point of this episode then?
If you're saying that you want you, you shouldn't do this, but
then you do it. But then I was really confused
by why this is labeled as like a show joke 'cause this is like a
shown in magazine thing where like, 'cause they make jokes
about this in the show where it's like, oh, you thought you
were getting a beach episode Psych.
But then it's like, but we're actually going to give you this
episode instead. It's like you didn't really do
anything, Like you didn't really like go away from the
stereotypical beach episode or whatever episode.
You still did the same thing that you're saying that you are
making fun of or whatever. So the whole or like it's it's
cool that they she got to. Like beat the object, hold on.
It's like, it's cool that like she got to beat them up and
everything at the end of it, but like the entire episode is
pointless. It means nothing in the context
of what it was trying to present.
So this is like when you were saying like you wish that they
took like the the 12 best shorts and made it into an episode.
You could just get rid of episode 8 and it changes nothing
about this story like it was. I think it's genuinely like a 0
out of 10 episode. I thought it was horseshit.
See this is interesting. 12/2 ends with the same bit though,
doesn't it? Like, doesn't it where they're
like, like you mentioned the oh, we're going to do a beach scene,
but then they don't do it exactly the way.
But then they still like episode 12.
They're like, oh, you thought you were going to get a bath
house scene and then the show literally ends on the two of
them jumping into the bath together, right?
Like like so it. But you that that's one of those
things where like you find it sexualizing and I don't because
like bath culture is such a thing over there and it's
perfectly normal that we view it as sexualized and they don't.
So that one I'd chalk up something differently.
But like the whole point of episode 8 is guys are creepy.
Stop doing weird shit to little girls.
And then they just do shit to little girls the entire episode.
It's I I'm with you on the bath house thing because like again,
bath house felt like everyone just sort of goes to like Camino
bath houses and everything. But it I guess I, I was exactly
0% surprised when the show showed her panties in episode 8
based on the prior 7 episodes. There was a lot of cleavage and
jiggling and not quite upskirts, but like almost a lot of sort of
precarious positioning. So I, I guess that was my
thought for why I wasn't particularly surprised about it
because we do spend a good amount of the time with the
camera ogling these girls And they they even sort of humanized
like the fried chicken, lemon lemon fried chicken.
What's his name? Fried?
Chicken Lemon. OK, you know, but even he's like
kind of a perv. Like they try to subvert it a
bit where he's like not as pervy as you think he's gonna be, but
then they they can't help but make him a little pervy even in
his episodes. And so like I, I'm with you on
like that episode. I just have to like, I'm not
surprised the show did it. I didn't find it out of line for
the other 7 episodes that came before it.
I will say the show did lower that sort of fan servicing stuff
as it like went along. It didn't get rid of it, but
there was after like episode 8, I think it did sort of tone it
down a bit. Like the Australia episode.
I don't remember anything being crazy.
Like, I don't know, there was some stuff, but it wasn't
anything like insane, but. The again, I I the bath house
thing to me, I get where you're coming from if it wasn't the
specific characters that were involved.
Aurora is literally like becomes a masochist and like starts
looking at Momoka in that way during that either that episode
or a couple episodes before. And then her whole the whole
reason she wants to bathe with her in my, in the way that I
would read it is that because she wants to be in the bath with
her, because she's like fawning over her for reasons other than
like the the communal bathhouse thing.
Like I that that's where I I so like that.
That's why I, I, I agree with you, Miles on your side where
it's like this show didn't feel like it was trying to not do
that stuff. It was making fun of it for
doing it that itself for doing that stuff, But then it also was
still doing plenty of it. And I, I agree with you, like
the the first episode, she gets shot in the boobs and the bullet
holes make nipples and she moans like what when she gets shot
like, and I know that that's an anime thing, but it's like I sit
here and I try to watch it and I, and it just makes me feel
uncomfortable. And I, I that I guess that's why
I am so sensitive to it in those contexts.
I mean, personally, like episode 8 did make me like really
uncomfortable, but like episodes, like episodes that
they like the first episode where you know, it, it makes
like she gets shot in the nipples, you know, whatever.
Like I'm I'm not like I'll. So I chalked that up to a 0
burger kind of like it. It's one of those things where
I'm just like, it happens and I just kind of move on.
But. Like.
It it, it's kind of something that I personally have just kind
of taught myself to ignore. But when we get to moments where
like it's episode 8 where it's like just bunch of panty shots,
really uncomfortable, and we have a call back to that for.
In 12 when? They show up in 12.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't like that either.
Yeah, like that's not cool. Like it's one thing for it to be
trying to jokingly sexualize stuff or, you know, but like
Beat said, like when you when you ruin your own message by,
you know, doing the thing that anime would normally do, that
feels odd and bad. But like it feels like it's
something that is trying to go against, like actively go
against something. And it might.
And honestly, it might have been something where the IT might
have been something that came from from someone else other
than the mangaka, but I don't know.
I felt that way. Too.
I felt that way too. Yeah.
I always pictures like the the the Inuasha thing, because
Inuasha was it wasn't specifically written for a
shonen magazine, but it it's like initial intentions weren't
supposed to be a shonen magazine.
And then it got into a shonen magazine and the manga was like,
OK, we'll do this. But like you can never have like
the girls show their underwear in this because like Kagame
wears like a short skirt in the show, but like you never see her
underwear. I thought that this was what the
show was going to do that where like we would have like
sexualized imagery of the characters themselves, because
this is the type of era where like that sort of stuff was like
very prevalent in. And I guess me thinking that
this era was going to have that and this show was going to have
that. I felt like this show was pretty
tame for the most part in terms of that stuff.
Like, yeah, there's chicks with big tits, but like I, I don't, I
don't think it's like as sexualized as we're making it is
kind of what I'm getting. There's like sexual stuff, but.
It's not like High School of the Dead or anything.
Yeah, right. That's way.
Worse, Yeah. And like, I, I don't know, I, I
just like, tend to never like any of that stuff, right?
Like, yeah, you know, but like, there are exceptions.
Like I, I, I put up with it in Konosuba even if there's like
issues. And that's an example of a bath
house scene that there's no argument is supposed to be
horribly sexualized. In fact, there are multiple bath
scenes in that show that, that you can't even pretend that it's
not supposed to be sexualized, you know?
So this though I, it was interesting to me because like
the rest of this author's manga, I believe are shonen.
So maybe there's a sign in in there, I don't know.
But she I don't think she's writing a lot of other shojo.
So I almost wonder if she meant for this to be shoneni and then
it just got picked up by a shojo magazine.
Feels that way. Like she was writing it to try
to be a shonen and then for whatever reason it got published
in the. Shojo man, that's exactly what
it feels like because it has the art style, like the manga has
the art style of like a shojo like manga, but the context it's
it's not saying that Shojo's can't have brain rock comedy,
but like it's so far away from what I would expect it to like.
I would expect it to be like like art, like stylistically.
Shojo asked which is it? It is.
And then if the comedy was brain rot, that's fine.
I feel like that's universal, but like still have the
properties of like what makes Shojo JoJo And it's like like a
little bit more respect towards like the female cast and stuff
like that. And like we didn't get that.
Like it was very odd. It was a very odd show.
It is weird because there are there are like to me, it does
feel a lot like a shojo in the way that like you don't get
jokes about a girl being on her period and her tampon breaking
in a shonen like that doesn't happen.
So that that felt like something that you would deal with and and
a lot of the issues that she talks about, like in a world
where episode 8 is like less panty shoddy or like a lot of
these things are less. I I agree with you that it's not
overly Edchy. To me.
It's sort of the IT almost feels like there's like this message,
which it which I would generally agree with right?
Like 'cause Momoko will say things like think about how the
girls feel. But like as far as Shojo's I've
seen, which is admittedly not like a ton or anything, it's
just you know, some amount. But this is the most fanservicey
shojo I've ever seen. For the from like a yes correct.
I've seen some show Joe's where they sexualize the men really
hard. Oh yeah, just like, oh, just
like the glittering, like, ABS everywhere, pretty boy. 6 foot.
5. Yeah, just me.
Do you know that? I'm actually just every male
love interest in Kami Samakis is based off of me.
I I could tell by your. That's 100% true, yes, and the
fact that I'm some sort of yokai or whatever, but like like like
I don't think I like I was like bothered by this as much as like
Pat was, but I did find the juxtaposition weird and with the
with the other like shojo Y qualities of it sometimes, which
I thought were very funny when they had Momika doing like the
stereotypical like shojo, like pro tag eyes, like Utna's best
friend or whatever, let you know like like early 90s shojo and
then she would shoot someone in the head like during that like
flower scene. Like I thought that was very
funny, but like it, it does to me feel like what would what is
sort of mild in this genre, but like one of those, it's a little
surprising to me that this isn't like a harem show.
Like right? It sort of feels like that 2010
to 2014 harem show that is like you, you look back at it and
you're like, oh, we all kind of like that, huh?
Like, you know, yeah, like, I don't know, it's like this isn't
like, you know, how on like Sword Art Online, there's like
the random scenes of people getting like, awesome and
getting like, molested or whatever that are like more
graphic than this. But like, that sort of thing is
less common in SAOI think, though it is like a much higher
peak. But then also there's like this
cast. Like I feel like the show is
missing Kirito. Like you're almost supposed to.
Self insert maybe? Yeah, like I'm expecting to have
to self insert, but but it's not there.
Instead you get Mamika who who is a fun character.
But like, I almost wonder if this was written as like a guy
accidentally joins the Sibaki Boo class and it's, you know,
these five girls. This is.
Juwana man. Yeah, I, you know, I don't know,
it's just like, it just almost feel like one of the shows that
it's like a guy and all of his friends, but all of his friends
happen to be girls of the school he just joined, like.
You're supposed to self insert as the the platypus, then there
you. Go.
That's good, because I did. Based off my intro, he did a
lot. Of platypus.
The platypus is part of every joke I enjoyed.
So it's. Anyways, this was a Phineas and
Ferb RIP off and I think that's important to to know what.
Did Phineas and Ferb come? Out.
Before this? Almost certainly, yeah.
Not. Before.
Yes, it did. Yeah, I 'cause I watched Phineas
and Ferb in college with my roommate while we just got
plastered. And one, it was really fun to do
and two, there were like 6 seasons of it and this came out
my senior year of school. So that would unless they really
cranked out the Phineas and Ferb.
OK, welcome to our new segment, as we do, which is let's answer
some questions by Champ, our our super fan.
There's one I want to do really quickly because I know we all
will just have the same answer and it'll be really quick.
So let's knock this one out. And we've already kind of talk
talked about it, but if the survival club were thrown into
real survival Serio, who do we think would actually step up as
leader and who do we who would immediately start plotting
against the others? So for that second part, anyone
disagree with Momica would immediately start trying to
figure out how to betray everyone.
Oh, for sure she would. Yeah, it's her.
She. Would absolutely do it.
I I absolutely do. I absolutely do not disagree
that she would just go, OK, survival club, I'm going to kill
everyone here and make sure I'm no, I'm going to go and talk to
the to the opposing side if they look better than me and make
sure that I have a space with them.
And then I'm going to help them kill everyone else.
That that, that would be her plan.
Yeah, so then betray someone at the end, Like tag team with
someone, kill everyone else, then betray the person she
teamed with. Yep.
OK, for the leader, I feel like Mio is sort of the obvious
choice. She is.
She has been held back four times, so maybe she's not the
right choice. Held back once.
Yeah, we'll never know. We'll never know.
Or it's impossible to fight out and you know, but I also think
that like Maya would be like the best answer.
She sort of seemed the most level headed of the group as a
scientist, you can't have the scientist be the leader and Kyo
it's just it's not the right choice.
We'll end up experimenting on people very quick.
So what is everyone else's thought there for who would be
who would step up and be the leader?
I'm. Gonna go?
I'll tell. You to go into eugenics again?
I'm gonna say Platy. What silent leader?
I think he leads by example and not by his words.
And I think that everybody likes him.
I think he'd be a great leader. You saw how he stuck up for his
boy Crab. That's leader material all day.
OK. He mugs them all.
Yeah. What Yeah, I agree, though I
would I would have said KO or Kyo because she's called Ish,
you know, for the most part. But like you said, Miles, the
science type should not be in charge.
No, we need someone to keep us in check.
Need a check and balance for sure.
I like the Maya answer there. I think I I think I like the
Maya answer. I oh, if I kind of, I'm kind of
split between Maya and ironically Momoka And the reason
why? No, I love it.
That's an amazing answer. Please explain.
OK, so Maya, for, you know, all the reasons that we've given for
Maya Momica, because if you have a discerning enough eye, if she
can tell that the people that she's going up against are
weaker than her, she will drive into the depths of hell to make
sure she wins. And if she's leading, she's
probably going to use you as an asset.
And if you can survive, she's a great leader.
She's going to do most of the work.
Because that point is like, if I lose like she's like, if I lose
it's my fault and I should die because.
I, I, I like her as a choice because how, if you are
controlling everyone, if you were the leader, it's really
easy to betray everyone. Yeah.
That's true. That's also true.
You can and you could also delegate any dangerous jobs to
other people. It's if you step up and you be
the leader and you're delegating, you can prevent
people or yourself from having to go in dangerous situations.
You can be like, OK, I think this is safe.
I will take this task. I think this is dangerous.
I will send out. Hopefully she dies, you know so.
I should make a movie about this.
Is this a movie? Every war movie ever.
That commentary that comments on class differences and war and
how the generals sit in the back, I don't know.
I'm just picturing every war movie I've ever seen that that's
like. Yeah, OK.
Yeah. Yeah, no, But yeah, that's a
fair. It's a fairpoint, though, Pat.
I do. I see where your head's at, at
least. I swear.
Hey, if I'm useful to Momica, she's not going to just throw me
to the side until I'm not useful to her.
Anymore, you know it's. Almost like Hunger Games too,
yeah? The other thing is that if she
is the leader and you understand her nature, as soon as
situations change and we're at the bottom, you know exactly
what she's going to do. And then someone else can just
go pop and go, all right, cool, now let's actually try and win.
This is OK. This is true.
As a leader, you also need to occasionally be able to kill
your subordinates without guilt. And who would do?
That's what we all yeah, that's everyone knows this.
What was I saying about scientists anyways?
Everyone would cover it once again.
Yeah, here we go. Would be able to do this.
It's like my grandfather got AI believe a Bronze Star.
He was in the Pacific theater and they were going to capture
this group of Japanese soldiers who were bathing.
And one of his squad mates started freaking out and it was
like, Oh my God, we're just being too loud.
My grandfather just knocked him out with the butt of his rifle
because he was making noise. And he got a Bronze star for
that is what my father has told me.
So you need someone like Momaka who will just knock it out if
you need it. So what I'm saying is give
Momaka A bronze star, I guess. I don't know if that was my
grandfather or he knew someone who did it, but because I heard
that story like 10 years ago, but or 20 years ago.
I'm so old now, but that is a story I've been told.
So anyways, let's answer another champ question really quick and
then I guess wrap up, huh? Probably, Probably, yeah.
Do Pete or Cat really quick? Do you have anything else you
want to talk about? Like with the show because you
liked it. Like themes, jokes, anything.
Sound design is incredible, absolutely incredible show and
it makes no fucking sense. Makes no sense like it.
We just watched Black Lagoon and that had the mid sound design.
The sound design in the show was so good for no reason though.
Huge plus for the sound design in the show.
That was not going to be one of my compliments.
You know Cat always talk. I'll say I'm always touching on
the sound design. But.
What about the sound direction cat?
I mean. So here's the thing.
Do. You even know what sound
direction is. Don't answer it, just move on.
I don't know. A bad joke by me.
I'll take the left, it's the same.
Sound design. It's.
Basically. Covers all the bases.
Nope. Like, yeah, I'm not going to get
into that. Anyway, one of my compliments
for the show is that it. Does really Really.
Well, with, with the pacing of most of its most of its bits,
there were because I think there were there were a couple of
show, a couple of episodes, if I remember correctly, that there
were two larger skits in one episode.
And then there were episodes that were that there were three
if like I think it was episode 6 and seven had three.
Some of them were two. Yeah, some of them were two.
Yeah. Like episode 12 at the very
least is 2 because it's the like the yeah.
And then I think like episode 1 is 2 as well.
I don't know about the center, but there's at least a couple
that are two. Yeah, I, I part of it is just
like me not paying attention to the to the to the titles, but
feeling like, OK, this is a scene split, this is going to
something else. And it feels like, OK, we're
resetting and we can go on from there.
I really appreciated a lot of that pacing when it came to
that. And I saved for episode 8.
I didn't really feel bored in any of the in, in any of the
episodes. There was always something to to
feast my eyes upon, except for episode 8.
Let's let's keep keep, let's, let's let's make that another
disclaimer because I refuse, but feast my eyes on whatever the
fuck was going on there. But yeah, like I enjoyed being
able to and being able to experience the, the, the pacing
of, Hey, this is this is, you know, this is somewhat funny.
And then we're moved to the next joke.
And then, oh, her mom's back and she's got a fucking revolver.
Let's fucking go. Like, that's that.
Honestly, if her mom was in the survival club, she would be my
favorite person in the survival club.
But. Really quick, let's answer
because I think this is interesting, champ.
We're going to do the sort of the 1st part of this, but is, is
Momica a satire of your typical shoji protagonist or something
more? And Pete, I think you would know
better this than me, but she sort of doesn't feel like
satirical in that manner at all, but sort of like a, a complete
subversion of what you would expect from it.
Like it's not a satire on it. It's just like if you took your
stereotypical, you know, like, what's the girl from Fruba?
Just like the sweetest, most kind, selfless human of all
time. Yeah, right.
And then you'd like, you put 1 divided by Haru Honda and that's
where you get Momoka, right? Like just the most selfish, you
know, in it for herself, doesn't want to help anyone else sort of
thing. So I don't even know if it's
like satire as much as just like completely breaking your
expectation, you know, is what I would define her as.
I don't know what anyone else would, but that was sort of my
fault. It reminds me of something like.
Call her a deconstruction. No, no, not.
Not at all. So when?
I have a whole episode on why I wouldn't I.
Learned what deconstruction you should watch that after the no
do not watch. I almost deleted that episode.
It reminds me of like when I know, but it's like when people
call like Fragrant Flower a shojo because it's like a
romance. And it's like, well, just
because it's a romance doesn't mean it's a shojo.
And it's like, Oh well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I did all these things and then people just can't admit that
it's a thrown in type of thing. Mobica in terms of like, I don't
think it's like satire. It's more of the fact that it's
just like, I don't know, I just think she she's just a brain
rock character and shojos are allowed to have brain rock
character. Like I just it, it's just.
It's just so. Far.
It's like it's a bell curve and she's just like so far on one
end of the bell curve, but like it's not she belongs on the bell
curve. She just belongs on the far end
of the bell curve, though. That's kind of what I'm
thinking. Was there like silly, like high
Jinxy like characters like this even and even in like prominent,
like highly rated shows, you have characters that are like, I
don't know, I the first thing I came to mind was like Shihaya
furrow, because Shihaya is while she is like nice and bubbly, she
is not like the over compassionate like MC that we
see a lot in these show. Joe's like she is like super
determined, wants to win all these things.
That's like that's a little different from like AI feel like
a different character. That's probably on like the
other side of the bell curve where it's different, but like
in that realm and then you have the brain rod on the other side.
I, I feel like the subversion is a good way to put it.
Like, like at least if if we're trying to define it in a more
general sense without getting tuned tuned into it because like
I, you know, I agree. Yeah, she's not the Torro Honda,
but also not Yona either or that far from Yona.
Maybe as a way to put it from Yona the dawn, you know, she's
Yona's pretty ruthless and the term and like you mentioned, the
determination and like the desire to win ruthlessness.
Maybe that she hired for you. The she hired Furu has as well.
I I can see it being an attempt at subversion but also a more of
a just like a a character. I don't know, that's like the
cop out answer though, so I feel kind of bad saying.
That well, I I, I. Think we're.
So yeah, I guess we should. Right.
Are we like predisposed in our like sphere that we think shojo
and we think like the same type of character, especially if it's
a girl character? Like we in our minds, we have
that like preconceived notion that this character is going to
be like X And then when it's not like X, we're sort of like, wow,
this is so unique and different, but it's like they're allowed to
have a rage of characters that's just like.
Yeah, no quick with that trap, Yeah.
And that's an awesome. That's what that's an awesome.
Yeah, but but I think everyone does right.
Like does the same thing with like fragrant flower, right?
Like when they spoiler alert get together in 12 episodes and it's
a shown in romance, everyone's like wow, that's that's you
know, I can't believe that. And it's like they've always,
you've always been allowed to do that.
It's just that, you know, when you think shown in romance, you
do think it takes forever, you know?
Yeah. You know, which is like most of
the show show that I have watched do not have characters
that are the main character that are like Momica.
Yes, You know, yeah. So I'm.
I'm not expecting it like, you know, she's allowed to be like
that, of course, but it did sort of play with my expectations.
Yeah. You know, so because like, even
people like, who's like a complete bad ass is like, still,
you know, good in some way. Like in Momoka's just a piece of
shit. Horrible.
Yeah, Yeah. And there's not a lot of
protagonists like that, frankly, in any given media.
It's like closer to Seinfeld than anything.
Else you have Mobika. They're the same person,
honestly. Yeah, like that's what?
Wouldn't Mumika sacrifice her? Yes, the answer is yes.
Mumika do the eclipse. The other thing?
She said. The other thing?
Sacrifice. The to the eclipse it would
happen. She would be part of the God
Hand. Who's to say she isn't that
Gorgon? Who?
Is her.
Who is her guts? Who is God fucking damn?
I mean it's gotta be Yurara right?
Like she's ride or die from Omaka.
Yeah, that's true. And then like we get the
subversion of that, but but who does Yurara like decide to like
go with that makes like all of a sudden Mobica's jealous I.
Mean like here's the Koska, it's the idol from episode 12 because
the the idol falls in love with Mobica too and then they break.
Oh, OK, yeah, OK. Like Koska and OK Yep, we have
the dynamic. This is now about Berserk.
Hi Miles, what are your closing thoughts on Berserk and your
final score for the show? Yeah, so as I talked about in
our Shark Tank episode, I very much enjoyed Berserk.
I caught up with it, at least at the time for Pete, and it took
me a minute, but it was a good read.
That being said, this show had its moments.
Not as many as Berserk, I'll say.
And while I personally don't find the problematic issues with
this as bad as the problematic issues I have with Berserk,
there aren't the highs for me to to sort of ignore those parts or
compartmentalize them. Believe it or not, sabage poo
didn't hit the same epic fantasy dopamine that I got from reading
Berserk. It wasn't close in stages, no.
Not at all, actually. Not even close.
Yeah. Frankly, it wasn't even close.
World apart. Yeah.
And did I chuckle occasionally? Yes.
Did I think that the show would be better if you cut 90% of the
content? Yes.
And unfortunately that is not singing in its braces.
I was horribly bored for like large portions of this.
In between laughter was me just being like, please make a stop.
That was like me watching this show and I think it for those
laughs and I will always have YouTube clips of those moments.
That would be my recommendation to anyone interested in this,
because you can Google sabage Boo, funny, funny moments and
you'll probably you'll just get the show.
It's kind of like the ghost stories dub where I don't
suggest I like watching that. I like that.
I, I suggest looking at the funny clips, that big sense I
said, I said this was better than Nokaton and I gave Nokaton
a three. So we have room for that.
I'm gonna give this I think A5. I'm gonna 5 out of 10 I think.
You're gonna say 3.1. 3.1 No, I think it's like a 5 To me.
It wasn't like the worst thing that's ever happened.
It was just sort of unfunny and boring and like borderline to
Etchy, but we've watched Etchier stuff.
And I, I'm not trying to be a hypocrite here, You know, like I
gave Konosuba A10 and there's a whole scene where they they,
they smack each other's arms to make their boobs jiggle and
that. And like, if I think that's Pete
comedy, who am I to say that shooting a girl in the boobs
isn't Pete comedy? You know what I mean?
I will say that it's not Pete comedy.
But. You know, I'll give.
You a perfect breakfast, of course can.
All right, Cat, what about you? You know what, I'm going to give
us a four. All right, Cat, what about you?
So I I thoroughly enjoyed the show.
This was This was dumb fun that I needed it was this is one of
those shows that I can that I will probably never rewatch, but
if I ever get around to rewatching it, my score will
probably lower. But yeah, I, I, I just very much
enjoyed a lot of the, a lot of the dags with the, with the
characters, mainly Momoka being a, a cheeky piece of shit and
just watching it everyone just kind of be like, oh, I'm OK with
it until we get shot in the face.
It's like my I think I I think one of my favorite, my one of my
favorite moments in this is where, you know, Momica is
fighting all fighting off all the different friend like, you
know, predator monsters in in like the whatever world survival
club. And then I was going.
To say you needed to clarify what you meant by predator in
this particular case, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, I, I, I get to, but you know, she kills all of them and
then she's starting to walk off and then she gets shot in the
head and it's Kyo just going fuck you, bitch.
And that that's one of my favorite moments.
I, I audibly popped at that, but it was very much fun.
It was a lot of fun. And my final score for this is I
want to get a 7.5 but I got to round down to A7.
That is the rules. There we go.
All right, seven. All righty.
Wait, is that your rules? No, you could round up if you.
I meant more that you couldn't give it a 7.5.
Oh, I see what you're saying. I thought you bet.
Yeah, that is had to round out. No, he did.
Yeah, if you don't, if you're like, oh, that's I want to give
it a 7.99, but unfortunately I've got to give it a 7.
According to the significant figures discussion we had
earlier, that is correct. So the significant figure if it
was if you. Were into one sick figure, it
would be an 8, but that's neither here nor there.
No, it's not. You're lying.
Scientists. Yeah.
I hope like you know. Oh.
God. Why would you know this?
Yeah. All right.
Go ahead. OK, I think I said everything I
want to say but I am genuinely impressed by this show.
Like I don't like brain rock comedy in this span.
Like kind of like miles. I I prefer to watch like the
ghost stories dubbed on YouTube in clips then like watching that
whole show. But this I thought was like
creative enough and fun enough where it wasn't like a slog that
get through every time. Like I finished an episode.
I was I pretty much had like a smile on my face.
Like I was happy that I watched that.
Like it was fun. It was goofy.
Some of them were better than others.
Some of them I thought were like genuinely great, like Miles
mentioned earlier, like the the phone decoration scene but with
the gun. I thought that was fantastic.
I loved like the shootout scene with the old people.
And then there's like the mission they're trying to do
like a mission possible thing. They're like actually a
helicopter can't go through a tunnel.
Like things like that. I don't know like there were
like a lot of like little like 1 liners thrown throughout the
show that I I thought it was great like I generally thought
it was funny except for like outside of episode 8.
I thought this show was good great time watching it yeah, but
give it an 8 yeah, I thought it was really funny.
I I did, I generally thought that there was a decent show
all. Right, Yeah, did not have very
much fun with this. I agree with Miles.
I thought it was pretty boring at large portions of it.
I think if it were 7 minute episodes, yeah, like cut down
like 1/3 the episode, like like do the best of of each episode,
I might have enjoyed it a little bit more.
But it, it just made me angry to watch.
I, I, I don't know how else to put it.
Like I, I was getting frustrated by a lot of the ways it made me
feel. And yeah, 2 two out of 10 out of
10 for Sabaga. Boo.
Not the worst thing I've ever watched, and nor nor is it fair
to say that it's even particularly close, I suppose
because there are worse things out there.
But I it is not. This is not a PAT show, that's
for damn sure. So yeah, with that, our average
score between the four of us ends up at a 5.25, which is 2
point O eight or two one sig fig right miles from the Mal score
on Mal of a 7.33. I think that I think I did that
right. Finally, I I'm sorry to.
You know, honestly, I will say we've been doing absolute shit
math this entire time. We're not allowed to use
decimals yet. We use decimals in our averages
and we shouldn't because we're using one sig fig and we're
reporting our overall average in three sig figs and that's shit
science. We're gonna have to redo every
episode of Watch Club we've ever done.
Thanks. Miles, there we go.
Well, I told. You it'll take to watch six
years. Like to watch through everything
again. Yeah, let's do it, let's do it.
But yeah, I think that wraps up our Sabage Boo Survival Game
Club just before Pat Week, too. That's a really good idea.
I like that. But yeah, Speaking of what I
just said because I'm so good at this, Miles, we voted on shows
that were nominated for Pat Week, which was basically
historical anime was the goal of some kind.
What, 1? And what are we watching two
weeks from now, or whatever our arbitrary date is?
Because you've got some weird schedules coming up for the
month. I'm going to Japan, my bad.
No, no, it's no blame. No blame.
I will say you said this was not your least favorite show, but it
is the tide for the lowest watch club show score you've ever
given anything with two other shows so.
There's that I well, thankfully we haven't watched Happy Sugar
Life in Watch Club so. We did that.
That's that that I think I gave it A2 in my head.
It's better than a Rebo I guess. But OK, so that's we know the
range of twos want to talk about that.
Yeah. No, no, I know.
Man really like. The moron.
Is that if your little sister is really into loli con incest
porn, you should encourage that. That's the moral of Varimo.
It's just. Great show, great show.
And of course, Blood Blockade, Battlefront, we just, I just
don't think any of us understood the plot for that so.
No, we did. Nobody else does.
We're we're right. We're right about blood
blockade. Everybody else is.
Wrong. OK, OK.
I, I mean, I truly believe that I think we're right by not
understanding the show. It's take that for whatever it
will. OK in that week, Yeah.
So in 3rd place was, and this was pretty tight for our top
three. We had Hell's Paradise, then we
had Porco Rosso in 2nd and we will be watching Hecky Monogram
3 as the winner. So I think that is generally in
the concept. Well, actually I know it is
because it's relatively similar to my happy marriage and
concept, though a little older but historical setting with my
old supernatural themes going on there.
So hopefully you're happy with that, Pat I.
Guess as happy as I could be, I don't love supernatural usually,
but we'll see. We'll see.
It's OK though. It's not the same as my happy
marriage. Yeah, it's, well, they both are.
I just meant like historical setting with supernatural like
elements in them that that was the similarity.
We could have pulled through for Black History Month, you know we
could have, but Yaske didn't even get on the board.
No, we actually been. Watching it outside.
I'll be honest with you, it's good for Black History Month
that it didn't get on the board. Yeah, I I agree.
Yoske is actually used to sit tie black.
I don't know if you do this technically.
Technically that's not true. It was drowned by a black.
Just got we just got votes. That happened before I
announced. Stop the count.
And this would make Porco Rosso and Hecky Monogaturi a tot.
No, it's too late. Oh, it's too late.
Means we would. Have to pick Yoske.
We would have to pick Yoske because I agree.
We had already announced it. I've already pinned it.
Sorry guys. That's really fun though that
that got added in. But instead for three months,
which is next month, we will be doing a show with the female
lead. So there we go.
We come full circle. I'm excited.
A female lead in a historical anime, which should be leading
to some sort of drama and interest.
I don't know. I'm very curious about this.
It looks pretty. It's awesome.
So yeah, we'll go from there. The, the, the Hickey story or
Hickey Monogatry is what we're doing.
And now unfortunately we have to wait for Cat week because again
of our next month's schedule, it makes a lot of sense for us to
do our 2 core show when we have a very big break and give us our
give ourselves more time to watch those full 2 cores.
So, Pete, do you have Jolene's nomination?
Yes, Jolene is nominating ORB. Orb All righty, thank you.
I didn't. I actually did a good show.
They message you or not. So there we go.
Perfect Orb. Orb's our first nomination.
Miles, what are you nominating? Yeah, every every year we get to
2 core week and I think about what I'm going to nominate and I
have all these ideas week to week.
I'm looking through all these shows and I'm like, wow, I wish
I could I could nominate this because but it's 2 core.
So I have to wait till 2 core. But I have a people, and I have
to represent my people during this.
And it doesn't matter how futile it is, It is my obligation to do
as such. And I wanna make a deal with
another group here. OK, I'm the stable.
I'm going to be nominating. You're not the leader of that.
I am. Are you?
I don't even, I don't even know who the leader of the stable is
anymore. I don't think either of you guys
are. It was Chica, I mean.
Someone. We have someone literally named
Horse Henry in our Maybe they're the leader.
Congratulations Henry, you are now the leader of the stable.
But I wouldn't you, you are right.
In exchange stable 4 votes for Higurashi.
When they cry Kai, I will nominate any fucking remaining
Uma Mussame properties that you so desire for me to nominate
until they win. If we watch Higurashi When they
cry Kai and you all motherfuckers voted for it.
I see the vote. So I can contingency this and I,
I'm a man of my word. I will be honest, but you can't
back yourself into this accidentally.
There has to be an effort. You understand me as I will for
the last three years. I will vote.
I will nominate. It has 2 legacy points.
Higurashi when they cry. Kai Part 2.
The the one with like a whole point higher than the original
season on Mal. Your show is already in the
lead, so there you go with that legacy.
If no one votes, I win. That's maybe you should tell
people to. Do that Miles goes on do not
disturb for two weeks. And just like.
Doesn't doesn't give me notifications.
What was I supposed to do? Blocks all the Ms. Yeah that
weird all the no one messaged me this.
Week I don't tell anyone to message me, just keep it just
absolute inside job. And I would barely be able to
stop you. Truthfully, there would be
almost nothing I could do. Cat, what are you nominating?
Yeah, as a as a person who that proudly proclaims himself to be
a part of the anti fascist movement, being a part of the
alternate group that is able to empower the voices of those who
are oppressed, be able to protect those that need
protecting from overbearing groups.
Oh fuck you. Oh fuck you.
You gotta make you gotta make a a a a a black civil rights
leader Nominate something about Nazism.
No, I'm not in Cowboy. Wait, are you a black civil
rights leader? No.
OK, All right, cool. Pete, what are you dominating?
Probably be Bop's a great show and I can't wait to vote for it.
But Pete, go ahead. What's?
Quick question, Pat, are you, were you also thinking about
nominating Yona? I thought about it with the show
with it coming up, but no, I have two other options that
we're still split on, so we'll get.
OK, if you're gonna do Yona, I also do my other show, but if
not, I'm gonna do Yona of the Dawn.
Good choice. I would, I would love.
To Yeah, I like that, yeah. Are we still laughing about what
just happened? Yeah, 'cause I.
'Cause like, is this like poor cat?
His ADHD brain just didn't get he, he was just thinking of the
fact that he's black, the fact that like civil rights are a
thing and he just accidentally called himself a civil rights
leader. I'm like are.
You doing something that I don't know.
I feel a. Bunch of shit y'all don't.
I got married and y'all didn't. Fucking know.
Yes I did. You told us named after.
No, you didn't. You told us immediately.
After I got married, yeah. No, someone else nominated a
show and here in. 2. Albert, I think that has like a
feature or something like that where he's just telling us
things that's like, you didn't do this.
It's like we were all there and we witnessed this.
No, no. So like as someone with bad
ADHD, Ted has worse ADHD than I do.
So and as someone who just sometimes forgets things that
happened 5 seconds ago, that means cat probably forgets
things that happened 3 seconds ago or so.
And unfortunately, sometimes that's you're just stringing
your words. You're trying to think of the
word and and then you forgot what the previous word was.
Podcasting is hard. Like sometimes like talking for
an hour and a half is like tough.
And I get it. I just thought it was funny as
hell. What cat says you?
Know it was very funny. All right, Miles, what are you
nominating? Damn it, Pat.
See, I was wondering, I was like, I was like, did I?
Did I forget? Because that could have
happened. You know, it's 1000° in my room.
We should wrap up. Yeah.
We should. I want to eat dinner so.
Well, Yeah, Good, good ending for sure.
I thought about doing Roz I fond because I'm just so curious
still after. All this time I would like to
that movie, Oh my God. Like just.
See, like because we haven't, it's been so long, I guarantee
you none of us remember the movie.
But I don't think any of our current listeners remember the
movie or us talking about it. So I don't think it would win.
So instead, I'm going to do a show that I have just put off
finishing for a very long time that I think would be really fun
to talk about. And I know you guys love to talk
about it. Code Geass le Lucha the
Rebellion will be my nomination. Season 1, obviously.
I thought you finished. It's split two.
I'm at episode 20. And then I paused it like five
years ago and never finished it. So no, I'm not finished.
Yes. Yeah.
And episode 20 is a great place to stop, you know?
Yeah. No, no.
I wish I did. I wish I did, but I did not.
And now it's like, I would have to go back to rewatch it, you
know, I, I, there's just no way I can pick it up and be like, Oh
yeah, that's happening right now.
I would like to talk about it with you guys and I'd like a
person to force me to watch it. So that's what we're doing with
Code Geass. So yeah.
Anything else before we wrap up? I mean, Cat, give us a quote
that that you'd like to be a world wise, you know.
What did I hit us with? Your version of the I Have a
Dream speech please. Or something you had had you
perished, had you not persisted, like give us something like
please. All right, That's it for Watch
Club. Thank you so much.
Oh my God, we think we're really funny.
That was funny. I don't care what anybody says,
that was funny as fuck. Thank you.
I try.
Do you actually have a quote or do you should we move on before?
No, I don't have a fucking quote.
All right, there we go. That's all I need to hear.
Miles, thank you for Co hosting with me.
I don't know why I are Co moderating with me.
I don't know why I said anything I and tried to kick it to you.
It's Pete who I usually kick it to here.
Thank you for listening to watch Club.
That's it for us. What have you got to say, Pete?
Yeah, and here's my civil rights quote.
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Who knows? We'll see.
We'll see if there's another episode after this, we'll find
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Bye, bye, bye bye.