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Hello, ladies and gentleman. 
Welcome to what you say anime. 

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I am your host Peter and on 
today's episode along with co 

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host Pat and Miles. 
We are going to be discussing a 

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book called the seven basic 
plots by Christopher Booker. 

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It is a book that outlines seven
different archetypes that 

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stories fall into and we are 
going to be using anime for are 

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examples of those archetype 
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Pat was The one who? 
Brought this up and I thought 

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it'd be a great discussion. 
And before I pass over the pad, 

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if you are interested in maybe 
hearing us talk about a certain 

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discussion plot. 
Let us know in like our Discord 

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or DME and we can maybe do an 
episode about so Pat take it 

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away. 
Yeah. 

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So like we said the book is one 
more time. 

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It's called the seven basic 
plots and why we tell stories I 

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read this in one of my college 
writing classes that I had to 

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take as a liberal arts major. 
It was part of the curriculum of

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whatever class I took. 
Remember what it was? 

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I will admit, I did not read the
full thing. 

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So don't please don't read the 
full thing. 

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It's 750 pages of academic text.
However, I highly recommend. 

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You look this book up and I just
read a synopsis about it, or 

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like, maybe what do what miles 
did, which was listen to a few 

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parts of the audio book, where 
you really Christopher Booker? 

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Really dives into the thesis of 
this book. 

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We're like Pete said it's about 
the seven basic plot points. 

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And And how every single story 
of fiction told can fit and be 

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defined by these, seven plot 
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these seven basic plots. 
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were going to be going over, 
I'll read through them all and 

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give a quick little synopsis of 
them or and then give some 

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literary examples as well. 
Some actual literary examples 

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rather than anime, and then 
we're going to discuss them all.

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We're going to talk about a 
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Maybe we'll see if we have 
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have some disagreements about 
where stories fall in, you know,

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because like maybe Pete thinks 
Kona soup is a tragedy and I 

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have to tell them that. 
It's just that it's just not and

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that it's a comedy obviously, 
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But yeah, so the first plot is 
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some of these are very simple so
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into it. 
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protagonist sets out and defeats
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Which you know is often evil and
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our homeland throwing their 
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any sort of thing like that. 
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This might be Beowulf where he 
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over is lazy. 
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Star Wars is considering example
of overcoming the monster in the

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case of the Sith. 
But yeah, so that that's the 

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first basic plot. 
The second one is called Rags to

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Riches where the the protagonist
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power, anything could be a 
spouse as well. 

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There's a couple different ways 
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to either lose it and gain it 
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sort of conflict with this power
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And then grow as a person as a 
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So good example of this might be
Cinderella. 

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It's a really good example. 
She becomes rich or she gets to 

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experience Taste of Rich being 
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And then loses it has to gain it
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Great, Expectations. 
Another good example of God, if 

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you've read that and you're 
listening to an anime podcast on

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it, what's wrong with you? 
Okay, honestly, that is the 

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dullest book I've ever read in 
my entire lighter wall. 

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Nothing happens. 
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And that's like the point of the
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book? 
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Hey, hey. 

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Great Expectations. 
Yeah, so if you can tell Miles 

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and I are the more, the 
literary, guess backgrounds, and

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I can't read my no, he can't 
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That's why he reads. 
Manga. 

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I like pictures. 
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though. 
So there you go because he can't

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read. 
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plot point is the quest. 
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companions if they have them set
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an important object, or Get to a
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face obstacles along the way. 
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of three times as one of the 
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Lord of the Rings, Indiana 
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follow the quest. 
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it. 
Voyage and return is the fourth 

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plot point where the protagonist
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overcoming the threats. 
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that? 
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that location. 
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Homeland with that experience. 
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examples, The Odyssey is an 
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Alice in Wonderland. 
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Gone With the Wind, The Lion 
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Again. 
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of voyage in return. 
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humorous, characters, usually 
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there can be some drama 
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Which, but the really the big 
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I was researching this part of 
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necessarily just supposed to be 
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It is also supposed to be about 
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where the conflict becomes more 
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Overwhelming or more and more 
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And then, from there, the It all
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It will resolve, and it does 
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it is still. 
But the conflict is still there,

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I guess so, so that's maybe that
this will be probably one of the

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ones that we have a lot of 
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I think. 
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provides our The Big Lebowski, 
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Dream from Shakespeare's 
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So, yeah, so that's comedy. 
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Which I think will be our best 
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defined as the the protagonist 
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great mistake. 
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I'm doing or their final their 
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And then if our story pans out 
invokes pity or makes you feel 

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bad for them or makes you 
realize that they even though 

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they are good character have 
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So the big thing here to note is
that it's not just stories that 

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have tragic things that happen 
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say it. 
It has to be stories where a 

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character has a fatal flaw or a 
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Occurrence that happens to them 
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because of their own doing, I 
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So. 
So again, we'll get into that 

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discussion. 
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But so, some examples are Julius
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Great Gatsby. 
Who are you saying that Miles? 

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There's a good one, Breaking 
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That's another great example of 
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And then finally, the last plot 
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an event forces. 
The main character to change and

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often become a better person by 
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So, Pride and Prejudice is one 
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the Beast Christmas Carol. 
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I think you could say, as well 
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So yeah, those are the seven 
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going to talk about. 
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come with two to three examples 
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could each, you know, pitch it 
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Say what we think about it and 
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Like we always do. 
So mi since I always kick it to 

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you first. 
Why don't you kick us off with 

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overcoming the monster shoes 
boiler warning as well? 

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Because yeah, that's very true. 
So big spoiler warning for every

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show off to me. 
For a lot of anime, I will say. 

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You know, I'll put it on Pete's,
going to give you time stamps of

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the show's. 
I will be perfect. 

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So there we go. 
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handcuff them, but he's gonna do
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timestamps for the, the plots, 
the thoughts. 

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Okay, should maybe in 
parentheses list. 

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Which anime. 
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too. 
But yeah, so spoilers for that 

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going ahead and also, Keep in 
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all these things. 
So it should be very 

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interesting. 
I think to go back and forth 

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and, and see if we're on the 
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So, yeah, Mi. 
Why don't you kick us off with 

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overcoming the monster being a 
chore. 

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So do you want me to do all 
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go? 
One at a time is short, so, I 

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started with a nice and easy 
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I did Shiki in Shiki. 
There's a bunch of vampires and 

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they're invading. 
Being a town and the people of 

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the town have to get rid of the 
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And at the end, they mostly get 
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end. 
They save their town so that 

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they've overcome the quite 
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Yeah. 
So I like this one because like 

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it's almost kind of anything 
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metaphorical monsters. 
And that's just like any kind of

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conflict. 
It's great II can see that. 

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I think that this is a good 
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mods. 
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argue. 
It's a tragedy kinda kind. 

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there's certainly some tragic 
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I don't think our protagonists 
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that ends up hurting him at the 
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No, he doesn't do. 
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I think it depends on who you 
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because like there's like three 
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doesn't have any flavor. 
Pause or personality to him, 

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right? 
Like he kind of just exist to 

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move the plot along or to have 
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part of the story, versus then 
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He has the flaw of maybe like 
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greater good or whatever you 
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Like or trying to pursue the 
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just he's doing everything he 
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sacrificing a few which of 
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the ass a little bit at the end.
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well as opposed who kind of 
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you want to go ahead. 
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It's like, I mean, I think that 
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perspectives, they they view 
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Like, I don't think any of them.
I think they all got what they 

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Wanted at the end of the day and

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especially the priests of the 
doctor have conflicting 

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viewpoints. 
So perhaps they view each other 

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as tragic, but I don't 
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Themselves is tragic. 
And I don't know, you know, we 

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have different perspectives on 
the characters. 

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So sure. 
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like I definitely think there's 
some tragedy in there but I 

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think it's important to like 
realize that like, there's a lot

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of overlap in, you know, these 
storylines like there's not just

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one or the other you can you can
dabble in a few, you know, a 

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feeling a little spicy on a 
Tuesday night. 

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Yeah. 
Why not add a second Earth 30 

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then? 
I mean it's rebirth because 

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they're vampires, right? 
It's a comedy because they're 

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hilarious. 
There is a joke. 

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So they're real. 
If it's like the most anime hair

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of all time. 
It is easily the most anime of 

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all time. 
Just look up Shiki and you'll 

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see exactly what we mean. 
You'll see what was it? 

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A mega mean. 
God. 

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What is that? 
What her name was? 

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The the, the first girl to me? 
Yeah, the pink careful. 

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Why do I remember? 
That good Lord. 

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You're here. 
That's very probably has the 

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most normal hair out of the 
crew. 

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That's what. 
Yeah, it's crazy. 

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Yeah. 
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Yeah, so that Shiki. 
I think that that's a very good 

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one. 
To start us off Pete. 

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What have you got for? 
Overcoming the monster? 

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Yeah. 
I thought overcoming the monster

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was, probably the easiest one, 
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Shonen fall into this category. 
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some others that could be put in
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little bit and for spoiler down 
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came to my head was Fullmetal 
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think there's like two specific 
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and then against father, where 
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bad guy. 
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and I do think there are some 
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hole plots in the story, but I 
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When you killed father, the 
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That's how I kind of like how I 
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monster. 
Yeah, I can't speak much about 

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Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood.
Haven't watched it, but Ikes. 

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Well, hey man, I don't want to, 
it's okay. 

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And that's okay enough shaming 
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that I think that from my 
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monster fits this really well 
where they overcome the 

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obstacles that they faced and 
they at the end of the day they 

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win, you know, like that's that 
out which it sounds really dumb 

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down, but that's kind of what 
you can do. 

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That's kind of the purpose of 
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the plots and make them fit 
within the definition. 

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Although I don't be down the 
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in a later category, so we can 
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So because I was also 
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another spot. 
I just think when you see like 

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they'll you like the top 10 
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usually add versus father is 
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is like an honorable mentions. 
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came to I had. 
Are ya. 

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Another good thing to note too 
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when we were signing these 
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I don't know what these guys 
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that, it can be bad examples or 
stories that we think did this 

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type of plot poorly. 
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like, oh, I think it did 
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extremely. 
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bit of mix. 
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bit of a mix in there sometimes.
But yeah, so my first overcoming

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the monster that I put, I got a 
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think. 
As I put your name. 

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So being one of my favorite 
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I think that they are overcoming
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So speak which is the odds are 
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the town or more importantly say
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natural disaster that occurs in 
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And I think that this movie best
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you know, they don't they don't 
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It's a bit of a Ade but it does 
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and things that they need to 
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It doesn't really feel much like
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interesting but I threw it in 
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that like the separation between
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trying to overcome? 
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monster. 
Yeah, because like otherwise 

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they can't meet in real life, 
right? 

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Because exactly is revealed that
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Oh, she's from the past, by the 
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he's from the future, I guess 
the On perspective. 

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But like, yeah, so without 
overcoming this monster, they 

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would not have been able to meet
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able to reach the promised land 
of saving thousands of lives 

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and, you know, sit eventually 
living in flooded Tokyo together

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as they like that. 
I think that's unique. 

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I think it probably fits like, 
comedy the best as you had 

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mentioned that. 
It was impossible thing, but I 

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like You know, it's a very good 
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multi-dimensional Miss of all 
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aspects and all of us and 
there's and it's like, it 

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doesn't like not fit. 
You know what I mean? 

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Like it. 
I think it's I like that as an 

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example because I don't think 
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Where, you know, I pick 
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monsters, you know? 
Yes. 

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It's like, don't worry, I 
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be fun to throw this one in 
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And I do think that it's 
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the plots. 
It's like that. 

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And you again. 
Comedy comedy does tend to 

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absorb all of like, romance and 
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It really does tend to, at least
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that this guy did. 
So, So I figured I'd mix it up. 

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But yeah, so what do you have is
your second? 

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Sure. 
My second one was Afro Samurai. 

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I thought this was a good one. 
It was you know, it's a very 

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simple Revenge plot and afro 
sort of has one goal the entire 

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time and is to avenge his father
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And the end, you know, he has to
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you know, depending on your view
of it of like what's important 

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in life. 
Maybe there's like a little bit 

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of tragedy in there but like The
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Justice and he's able to make 
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challenges that he needed to in 
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the day, he is Victorious and he
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becomes the monster for someone 
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So that's why I picked that one.
It's a great example. 

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I definitely when I was looking 
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yeah, that'd be a good one, but 
I didn't like that, so I didn't 

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bring it up. 
It shows don't like it here. 

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So yes, I do. 
I yeah, I've chose Pete doesn't 

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like in here too. 
So maybe I'll have shows 

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pictures of shows that you guys 
like it. 

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I hate. 
So yeah, there we go. 

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Perfect. 
Perfect. 

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All right, people. 
Why don't you give us your 

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second? 
Okay. 

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So this one is what you guys 
played Sports and so I was 

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hoping you can relate to this. 
That you have this one rival 

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where it doesn't matter like how
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if you beat that one, team that 
you Like this season was worth 

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it type of thing where like if 
for Pat, if the socks like sweep

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the Yankees, but they don't make
the playoffs. 

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You still sweep the Yankees type
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It's a w, yes, so I guess, I 
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look at things that way, but 
maybe like a pathetic place like

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Minnesota. 
Yeah. 

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That's how you look. 
It's like, yeah, it's weirdest 

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make the playoffs or like draft 
someone. 

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First overall, who wasn't a bus.
Whoa, if Edwards is great who 

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and come on, basketball. 
Okay, but it's sports-related. 

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It's season 3 of haiku. 
Curators Allah versus karsu know

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where they set up shirt or Ozawa
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They are the the Goliath of the 
prefecture that in order to get 

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to Nationals. 
We have to beat them. 

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We set up like 35 episodes of 
their Ace being this just 

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Unstoppable monster this team 
just being so tall and just 

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overcoming that and then beating
them and then being just so 

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happy. 
You to make it to Nationals. 

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Maybe I got the feeling we're 
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they did it Nationals. 
Like they beat she retires Allah

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and to the to me like that was 
like they want like everything 

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else is just like extra and I 
it's my favorite Arc and Anime 

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history. 
I love it so much. 

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And that was my second example 
of overcoming the monster. 

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I like that. 
That's interesting. 

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Yeah, I can definitely relate. 
Like, there are times where it's

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like, yeah, if we beat our 
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we did that or whatever or they 
were the monster in the 

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situation. 
So, yeah, I can definitely see 

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that. 
That, that's a good example. 

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All right, my second example of 
over kind of monsters a little 

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bit more literal to go along 
with the theme. 

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I did tengen, toppa, Gurren 
lagaan. 

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So I had this as overcoming, I 
was thinking about 12. 

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It's like the second half is, 
like, where I kind of like moved

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away from it, because I wasn't 
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essentially like two different 
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It it. 
Well, it is to some extent, but 

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they're still overcoming a 
month. 

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So, absolutely. 
So that's why I stay or like in 

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my notes. 
I wrote, they overcame multiple 

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antagonists throughout the show,
basically every single. 

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And, you know, some people might
argue. 

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Oh Rags to Riches or the quest. 
Maybe. 

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But I think that they first, 
they overcome getting out. 

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The, you know, the 
oppressiveness of their 

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underground literally living in 
caves. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, let it like that. 

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Then they overcome the spiral 
King. 

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Then they realize. 
Holy shit. 

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He isn't the biggest evil and 
are he was doing this for a 

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reason and then they'll become 
that's, that's the no, he's not.

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Yeah. 
So like he's there at Agnes at 

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the time. 
But yeah, it's at the end of the

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day. 
He was trying to, he still isn't

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at Agnes because he was 
oppressing so many. 

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I think he's not sure. 
Yeah, but but like, You know, 

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he's that morally gray 
antagonist. 

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I guess if you were like he's 
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doing it very poorly and 
immorally. 

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So yeah, I think Gurren lagaan 
is a great example of and the 

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reason I put this because it's 
shown in but it's good Shonen 

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unlike motion. 
And so, there you go. 

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That's why I wanted to throw it 
in the exact. 

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Yeah saying, haha. 
Yeah. 

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We just all hate shown in here, 
right? 

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Wink, wink. 
I just need to shorten the last 

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example. 
I know that's kind of my point, 

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is that Wait, no, he do watch 
Shana. 

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No, no way. 
It's not that bad mi. 

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Love you got for your third 
example. 

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Yeah. 
Sure. 

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So for my third one, I picked 
Neon Genesis Evangelion that one

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I almost did. 
I knew someone else would. 

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So, you know, I would say 
especially for the first like 20

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episodes of the anime. 
The conflict is between the Ava 

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pilots and the angels and how 
they are trying to save. 

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Of Tokyo, three from 
destruction. 

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And so, you know, I think it's 
very, you know, there's a 

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threat, the Angels they come 
down, people get an Ava's and 

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fight them to varying success, 
but they usually save the day 

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and, you know, so that's sort of
that aspect of it. 

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There's obviously a little bit 
more Ava, but, you know, I think

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that defeating the overcoming 
the monster bit is, is pretty 

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present and it so I agree. 
So yeah, that one was one of the

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ones. 
I was like tragedy, like. 

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And then I was like, well, I 
don't actually know yet because 

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I haven't done End of 
Evangelion, so I decide not 

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throw it in there. 
But that is also like it's 

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literally monster-of-the-week 
almost, you know, yeah, angels 

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for a good portion of the show. 
And then of course, the monster 

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of, you know, feeling the 
pressure from society, pressure 

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from his father and Truffaut 
himself, whatever you want to 

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say, like, mental health issues.
They're all monsters that he has

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to overcome. 
So I think that's really good 

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answer. 
Yeah, Pete. 

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Then we have the way to go. 
Oh, yeah. 

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My last one. 
Just keep it really simple as 

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the Demon Slayer just like a 
basic Revenge story demons 

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killed his family. 
He wants to kill. 

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Demons has to go kill vampire. 
Michael Jackson plots, not as 

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deep as it's not that deep but 
it's just like kill the bad guy 

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and the world is saved. 
So, Demon Slayer, I like that 

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example. 
It's a fun one. 

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Yeah, and so, my final one is 
high school, the dead where it's

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killing zombies, but it's more 
of the overall threat of the 

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zombies. 
If they have to like overcome, 

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you know, they have to survive 
in the post-apocalyptic Japan 

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and I just love the show, and I 
thought it would be fun to talk 

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about a little bit more. 
And it's a little double 

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00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,400
entendre because it's like the 
thread, the zombies, and the 

454
00:24:56,408 --> 00:24:59,600
threat of a collapse of Eddie 
being the monster, but that also

455
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,600
they're actually monsters, you 
know, like they are zombies. 

456
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,000
So so yeah, I guess that wraps 
up all of our overcoming the 

457
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,100
monsters. 
So why don't we move on to our 

458
00:25:08,100 --> 00:25:12,600
next one Rags to Riches? 
So why don't you start us off 

459
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,100
Mi? 
Sure Mi first rag to riches. 

460
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,200
It's a show. 
We all hold equally dear and 

461
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:26,200
that is violet, ever got just 
saying, so I actually, I know, 

462
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,800
because I had to come up with 
some of Last minute because work

463
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,000
has been hectic. 
That Pete also has violent as a 

464
00:25:31,008 --> 00:25:37,000
rags-to-riches, I do. 
But you have a girl named Violet

465
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:43,400
and she is, she starts off sort 
of poor alone without any people

466
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:46,700
to like care for her. 
She has picked up on a boat. 

467
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,400
She has to she like integrates 
herself into society in a 

468
00:25:51,408 --> 00:25:54,700
various different ways, but she 
has. 

469
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,500
I think several setbacks. 
The majors death is one. 

470
00:25:57,700 --> 00:26:00,800
The reigniting of the war is won
and after each of those, she's 

471
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,500
able to build herself back up 
stronger, you know, by getting a

472
00:26:04,508 --> 00:26:07,700
job and learning about love in 
the first instance and then like

473
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:11,200
learning to like live a life of 
peace and live for herself and 

474
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200
not be like the killing machine 
that she was like, you know, 

475
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,400
built to be like, I guess 
figuratively on the second one. 

476
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:23,400
So that was like, my take on 
that. 

477
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,700
And for the sake of time and 
everything, pretty much agree 

478
00:26:27,700 --> 00:26:30,800
with Miles. 
I also have it as Rags to Riches

479
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,500
especially with the conclusion 
of the movie and how that wraps 

480
00:26:34,500 --> 00:26:37,200
up everything. 
I think it's just a good example

481
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,800
of that. 
Whole scenario of, you know, 

482
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,400
first time we see here, 
chronologically. 

483
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,200
She's in literal racks. 
So yes, yes. 

484
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,000
Yes, so, I obviously yeah. 
My one of my favorite shows to I

485
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:52,200
had Violet on the list, but I 
disagree with displacement, 

486
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,500
actually, I have In a later 
category so we can talk about 

487
00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:55,900
it. 
Then. 

488
00:26:55,900 --> 00:26:58,900
That's very interesting. 
Now that you've both, had it 

489
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,000
here. 
Hmm. 

490
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:03,800
All right. 
What have you got Pete for your 

491
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,800
first while use your said, Rags 
to Riches? 

492
00:27:05,900 --> 00:27:08,000
I also have mad at so. 
So I guess I'll go next. 

493
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Then to get another one in, for 
me. 

494
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,100
I had Tokyo Godfather's as one 
of our rational, just or great 

495
00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:14,500
one. 
Yeah, thank you. 

496
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,100
So, the reason why I wrote on 
pipe so greatly. 

497
00:27:18,100 --> 00:27:21,800
Yeah. 
And the reason I have it is 

498
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,800
because they not only do they 
They are they in rags, are there

499
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,100
poor there, whatever you want to
say, but then they also 

500
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:32,700
experience they get rich and not
only monetary amounts like they 

501
00:27:32,700 --> 00:27:36,400
find money, they get they get 
wealth, but then they also get 

502
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,700
rich in family and like other 
emotions or support, whatever 

503
00:27:40,700 --> 00:27:45,400
you want to say, to get really 
cheesy and like romantic with 

504
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:49,200
it, you know, I mean, like, so 
that's why I put them in there 

505
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,700
because I think, I think it 
fits. 

506
00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:53,100
I think they. 
Yeah, they go. 

507
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:56,700
They go from being, Emotion, 
emotionally drained to 

508
00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:00,500
emotionally like full and Rich. 
So, that's sort of my thought on

509
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:04,500
Violet is, well, you know, she 
starts off poor and her ability 

510
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,900
to like understand people. 
She learns how to empathize 

511
00:28:07,900 --> 00:28:12,000
better, but there are setbacks, 
but in the end, she's able to 

512
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:16,200
overcome the new challenges and 
like become a complete person, 

513
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,400
which she really wasn't at the 
start of it, you know. 

514
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,600
Yeah. 
I can't wait to change your mind

515
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:22,600
later. 
Sure. 

516
00:28:22,900 --> 00:28:25,400
Yeah, because I can, I agree. 
This is that was my thought 

517
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,300
process for a while to and then 
I thought about it more and I 

518
00:28:27,308 --> 00:28:30,800
was like, maybe I mean my actual
thought process is violet, never

519
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:34,400
learns anything but I'm going 
off of what I view is intended. 

520
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,800
Um, so I think she learned 
something but, yeah. 

521
00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:40,000
All right. 
Well, why don't you do your 

522
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,900
second one, then you jerk. 
Sorry, Rhett, you s rag to 

523
00:28:43,900 --> 00:28:48,100
riches to rags to riches. 
Is a show that we actually all 

524
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:51,000
do very much like, and I'm going
with zombie lands. 

525
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,100
That's my second one. 
I know another one that I have 

526
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,900
on the list, but I was like, 
there's no way he's asleep 

527
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:04,100
Zombieland. 
So yeah, so my second one is 

528
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:07,500
Zombieland Saga. 
These. 

529
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:13,000
These girls are all, you know, 
they'll little low point, they 

530
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,900
are actually dead. 
They don't feel like their life 

531
00:29:15,900 --> 00:29:21,000
has meaning. 
They are able to, despite the 

532
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,600
the slight downside of being an 
actual corpse. 

533
00:29:24,700 --> 00:29:28,500
Find fulfillment in their life 
through. 

534
00:29:29,500 --> 00:29:33,200
Oh my God, what's their group 
game for prom shoe, goes on 

535
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,600
shoe. 
I was calling your front front, 

536
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,900
you Franz shoo shoo. 
But then there, you know, there 

537
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:40,600
are setbacks that make them 
question themselves in their 

538
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,400
worth in what they're doing 
again, like, you know with the 

539
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,800
whole beginning plot of season 
two when they like sell like 

540
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,600
seven tickets out of like a 
multi hundred thousand person 

541
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,900
Stadium Interesting because he's
into could be like defeating the

542
00:29:55,908 --> 00:29:59,400
monster kind of with like, 
trying to like with that stadium

543
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,000
and stuff if you wanted to do 
that, but and they're able to 

544
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,200
like overcome that and like find
like self-worth and value 

545
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:14,700
through the, you know, their 
their teammates and themselves 

546
00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:16,400
and all of that. 
So that's that's why I picked 

547
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:17,800
that there. 
That's interesting. 

548
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800
I see you again. 
I have them later on in because 

549
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,100
I think if I do think that this 
is where I would put them, If I 

550
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:27,000
were to not put them in the 
category that put in, but you 

551
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,200
might have sold me on it. 
Actually. 

552
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,600
I might have to change my answer
but things could be both. 

553
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,300
Don't worry. 
Yeah, they're not supposed to be

554
00:30:35,300 --> 00:30:36,500
according this guy, but they 
are. 

555
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,000
This guy. 
Put Lord of the Rings in all 

556
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,500
seven. 
So it's okay. 

557
00:30:39,500 --> 00:30:45,600
It's that's very good. 
It's yes, it's like three huge 

558
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:46,300
books. 
Yes. 

559
00:30:46,300 --> 00:30:48,200
There's a lot going on. 
It's pretty epic. 

560
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,700
So yeah, there you go. 
I think you could also put 

561
00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:53,600
Odyssey, The Odyssey and The 
Iliad in a lot. 

562
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,400
I like the Epic of Gilgamesh. 
She could put it in so many 

563
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,600
ideas. 
Yeah, almost like they're also 

564
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:04,000
really long pieces of media ice 
up here. 

565
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,700
You got your second one. 
Well, sorry Bo Mi is obviously 

566
00:31:07,700 --> 00:31:09,700
here. 
This is a steal my screen time. 

567
00:31:09,700 --> 00:31:13,400
But um, so for a few of these 
examples, I tried to get a 

568
00:31:13,408 --> 00:31:19,000
little bit more creative and not
just taking the literal term for

569
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,300
like when they say wealth. 
I think a lot of people think of

570
00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:24,400
like money but like move just 
other forms of Well, so I try to

571
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:29,900
be creative and then in rags to 
riches, it's like loses it all 

572
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,900
and then gains it back. 
Yep. 

573
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:35,900
I was like thinking of like 
literally like losing life and 

574
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:40,300
then getting it back and then 
finding your wealth in yourself 

575
00:31:40,900 --> 00:31:43,600
and stuff like that. 
So I Zombieland, I thought sake.

576
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,300
Let's talk. 
It was like I could see being in

577
00:31:45,308 --> 00:31:48,300
like other categories but like I
thought I was like a fun 

578
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:51,500
interpretation of Greg's great 
like rebirth. 

579
00:31:51,500 --> 00:31:56,200
I could see comedy even like 
There's a lot of quest like 

580
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,000
there's there's a lot of stuff 
you could get it. 

581
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,000
Yeah, I think Rags to Riches 
Quest and voyage and return 

582
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:07,700
often overlap a lot in some you 
can try to make them overlap. 

583
00:32:07,700 --> 00:32:09,900
At least. 
I definitely think that that's a

584
00:32:09,908 --> 00:32:11,600
fair way to put it. 
I just ask that Miles. 

585
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,700
Doesn't steal my third one so I 
could talk. 

586
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,200
Mmm. 
Okay. 

587
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,000
Well, you know, what's your 
third one? 

588
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,300
We'll find out soon. 
I don't think you've seen this 

589
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:23,600
show, so I think we're good. 
Okay, so my second one. 

590
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:28,600
Yeah, I I put Cowboy Bebop 
because they are Rags to Riches.

591
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,300
Both is not only a, not only, is
it a common gag in the show? 

592
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:33,700
Like it's a joke that they're 
poor or that they have, you 

593
00:32:33,700 --> 00:32:36,800
know, they're always trying to 
get rich and then they get money

594
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,500
and then they get them, the 
debtor comes and then they're 

595
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,200
poor again, but it actually is 
like the theme that I think 

596
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,300
follows Spike Jet and Faye with 
Spike being rich. 

597
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:52,000
Like Pete was saying and in a 
non-monetary term, he had a wife

598
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,900
or he had the woman he Of did 
you have like a full life and he

599
00:32:55,908 --> 00:32:59,200
got taken away from him? 
Same thing with jet had a career

600
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,500
had had meaning to his life. 
And then he now we searching for

601
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,600
it on the Bebop. 
And then Faye had family had all

602
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,900
these different, and actual 
monetary wealth before. 

603
00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:12,200
Then the the accident that had 
her eye what was achieved at 

604
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,500
Frozen or something 
cryogenically, and then he'll 

605
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,100
there's something like 70 years 
later. 

606
00:33:18,100 --> 00:33:20,300
We're not of her family, still 
exists. 

607
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:21,800
She knows no one like that kind 
of. 

608
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:23,600
So, I thought that this was a 
good example. 

609
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,400
Apple of Rags to Riches with it 
being like not a literal 

610
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,200
rags-to-riches. 
Although, again. 

611
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,200
It is literal Rags to Riches 
that happens throughout the show

612
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,200
where it's played off as a gag, 
but I think it fits along with 

613
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,000
your themes. 
Well, as a true anime fan, of 

614
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:40,700
course, I know what you're 
talking about since I am. 

615
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:43,200
Yeah, as you know, Baby, Bop, so
yes, I agree with that 

616
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000
statement, bad. 
Yes. 

617
00:33:45,100 --> 00:33:48,800
Of course. 
I have you seen it - I do. 

618
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,400
I am not, you know. 
Oh my God, my co-hosts. 

619
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,200
Whatever. 
Sorry. 

620
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:55,700
Okay, my pit is I don't watch 
anime. 

621
00:33:55,700 --> 00:33:57,600
I have had students. 
Yeah. 

622
00:33:57,900 --> 00:34:00,300
Yeah. 
You have time for Great 

623
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:03,500
Expectations. 
But yeah, like four other made 

624
00:34:03,500 --> 00:34:05,300
me read it. 
I know I'm sure. 

625
00:34:06,500 --> 00:34:12,699
After I found out years later 
that he just did it as a joke. 

626
00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:15,400
He's never read it. 
He thought it was hilarious to 

627
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,800
make me read Great Expectations 
and it's kind of funny in 

628
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:20,600
retrospect. 
I was like, this is truly a 

629
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,100
tragedy. 
It's tough. 

630
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,600
So quite funny. 
There You Go. 

631
00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:30,199
Miles was your third shows and 
peace third show obviously as 

632
00:34:30,199 --> 00:34:30,600
well. 
Sure. 

633
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:33,000
Yeah. 
So my third show is so maidens 

634
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,500
in your Savage season. 
You see that show? 

635
00:34:36,199 --> 00:34:39,100
Dude, I just said that to try to
guess your third one. 

636
00:34:39,100 --> 00:34:42,900
Oh, okay. 
I was like what you see that 

637
00:34:42,900 --> 00:34:45,400
show surprise to us. 
Like no way. 

638
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,900
I actually it's like I mean, 
it's not like high enough on the

639
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:53,300
to watch risk that is happening 
anytime soon, but it's high 

640
00:34:53,300 --> 00:34:54,900
enough. 
It'll literally happened. 

641
00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:58,600
All right. 
Um, my third one is Neon Genesis

642
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:05,300
Evangelion, dude, that was so so
I approached this. 

643
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:11,400
In the way of like shinji's 
character and you know, I guess 

644
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,600
not, none of us actually ended 
up doing like actual monetary 

645
00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,300
wealth or, at least we haven't 
yet. 

646
00:35:16,300 --> 00:35:21,100
I guess you kind of did with 
Tokyo Godfather's, but the 

647
00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:24,100
actual wealth comes like very 
Split Second at the end. 

648
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:32,100
But so Shinji starts off, you 
know, very little self-worth 

649
00:35:32,100 --> 00:35:34,900
doesn't know what he's doing 
over the course of the series, 

650
00:35:34,900 --> 00:35:39,600
he builds up. 
The self-confidence though. 

651
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,700
It's not necessarily well-earned
or well fortified. 

652
00:35:43,700 --> 00:35:47,400
So this is in the book. 
The author talks quite a bit 

653
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:53,100
about how I can like Aladdin. 
You get the thing you want, but 

654
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,800
it's not always, like, the way 
that you were supposed to gain 

655
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,200
it in. 
That comes back to set the set 

656
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,100
back. 
So Shinji need self-worth, but 

657
00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:06,500
he looks for approval and other 
people. 

658
00:36:06,500 --> 00:36:10,700
By the way that he Pilots the 
Ava to gain this, so he gains it

659
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:16,000
through being, I guess, you 
know, the best Ava pilot of the 

660
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:19,100
bunch. 
He does a great job, his father 

661
00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:22,900
at various points seems to like 
Show some Worth to him. 

662
00:36:22,900 --> 00:36:26,000
He tries to get value from that,
from the Sato through, Oscar, 

663
00:36:26,100 --> 00:36:30,500
through different relationships.
He has through a series of 

664
00:36:30,500 --> 00:36:33,700
tragedies in the show because 
boy are there. 

665
00:36:33,700 --> 00:36:36,700
Many, that all comes crashing 
down. 

666
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:39,800
He loses pretty much all of us 
self-confidence confidence. 

667
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,300
But at the end in, I guess I 
won't get too into detail 

668
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:46,600
because End of Evangelion. 
I don't want to spoil too much 

669
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:51,100
of that for Pat, but, you know 
some stuff happens and changes. 

670
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:55,400
He is able to make the hard 
decisions he needs to and game 

671
00:36:55,400 --> 00:37:02,000
that self-confidence and 
self-worth the hard way and for 

672
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,100
for himself and not through 
other people. 

673
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,900
So he like corrects the source 
of it and he's able to 

674
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:13,200
re-establish himself in a 
position where he has gained the

675
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,300
thing that he was trying to, you
know, he's rich now in like sell

676
00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:21,600
for so that was my take on that.
I like it. 

677
00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:25,300
I do too Pizza. 
That wasn't your third. 

678
00:37:25,300 --> 00:37:27,400
That was not my third one. 
And right. 

679
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,900
Let's hear it though. 
I don't speak. 

680
00:37:28,900 --> 00:37:31,900
My third one is like essentially
like literally losing 

681
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:34,400
everything. 
I would, dr. 

682
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,900
Stone KRON. 
You get Frozen in time for like 

683
00:37:38,900 --> 00:37:41,400
a hundred thousand years just to
wake up. 

684
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:48,000
And essentially start from 
scratch and become like this 

685
00:37:48,700 --> 00:37:52,300
master scientist in. 
The world and overcome like the 

686
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:55,200
different things that happen 
throughout the story. 

687
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,000
I just thought it was like a 
literal definition of like 

688
00:37:58,100 --> 00:38:02,300
literally losing everything and 
acquiring as much as you like 

689
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,300
physically can back because he's
limited as being a human with no

690
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,800
technology, even though as the 
story continues, he gets more 

691
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,000
and more of it but he can't like
use the internet because it 

692
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,300
doesn't exist stuff like that. 
So I thought it was a it's a 

693
00:38:16,308 --> 00:38:19,600
really fun story of like, 
literally starting from zero and

694
00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:21,800
go. 
In trying to get as close to the

695
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,800
top as you can. 
Like that, that's it. 

696
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,100
That's a really good example. 
Yeah, that like just sitting in 

697
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:28,500
here now. 
I can't really think of anything

698
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:29,900
else. 
It would fit that well into, 

699
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,400
like I guess Quest a little bit 
less because he technically 

700
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,200
wants to go to the Moon. 
Yeah, and also probably to 

701
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,800
overcoming the model. 
Ordering the monster have like 

702
00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:43,100
whatever. 
Like now only there's a bad 

703
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:43,900
house. 
Yeah. 

704
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,100
What. 
The Earth the Primitive Earth is

705
00:38:46,100 --> 00:38:48,400
the is the monster to, right? 
Exactly. 

706
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:50,600
Yeah. 
That's a really good one Pi like

707
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:52,900
that. 
Yeah, so my final Rags to 

708
00:38:52,900 --> 00:38:53,600
Riches. 
I guess we. 

709
00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:55,700
Didn't do literal wealth that 
much. 

710
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,500
Yeah, you're right. 
I did darling in the Franks 

711
00:38:58,500 --> 00:39:02,400
because I feel like most 
specifically, you know, there's 

712
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,500
that story in the in the show 
where it talks about the red 

713
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,600
giant and the Blue Giant and how
like, the two of them were 

714
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,700
friends or whatever. 
And then the red giant decide is

715
00:39:13,700 --> 00:39:16,000
like, oh I want to be friends 
with humans, but they don't 

716
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:19,100
trust me or they don't like me. 
So what he does. 

717
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:20,700
It what the blue giant says is 
he like? 

718
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,300
Oh, I can help you out. 
Don't worry. 

719
00:39:22,500 --> 00:39:26,800
And he goes, And like pretends 
to scare or terrorize the 

720
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,500
humans. 
And then the red giant comes 

721
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:30,400
along and like scares them off 
or whatever. 

722
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,700
Which, by the way, this is an 
old Japanese. 

723
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:36,600
Yeah, that's told in something 
else. 

724
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,500
Is that it is told in Chicago 
Yuri, is that the show? 

725
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,300
I'm pretty sure it is insurance 
carrier. 

726
00:39:41,300 --> 00:39:43,000
I can't remember 2010, but it 
might be. 

727
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:48,200
It's, it is, it's told very 
often, an anime because it's an 

728
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,900
old Japanese like, proverb, or 
whatever you want to call it. 

729
00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:55,100
But yes, and of course, the 
Giant like runs away and the red

730
00:39:55,100 --> 00:40:00,800
giants like a hero and he has 
the wealth of friendship and 

731
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,800
appreciation from the villagers.
But then when he goes back home 

732
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,100
to see where the blue giant is, 
he's like, where do you go? 

733
00:40:08,100 --> 00:40:09,900
And then the blue giants gone 
forever. 

734
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:14,900
So he loses the blue giant as is
friend, his dearest friend in 

735
00:40:14,900 --> 00:40:16,600
the process of gaining 
everything else. 

736
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,800
So again, I am a that is used as
like the main like theme I guess

737
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,900
if Darlene the Franks to Next 
thing. 

738
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,900
I know they attempt to use it as
a main theme. 

739
00:40:26,900 --> 00:40:28,900
Yeah, it's nice out. 
Think they do it that. 

740
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:34,300
Well, but it is used to know 
when talking about 02 and oh 

741
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:35,800
man. 
What is the protagonist here? 

742
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,900
And there's literally hero it is
here. 

743
00:40:38,900 --> 00:40:39,800
You're right. 
Yeah. 

744
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:41,500
So there you go. 
So it's the two of them. 

745
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,500
It's so I just thought that was 
a fun example, maybe not the 

746
00:40:45,508 --> 00:40:48,200
best example in the in terms of 
like actually doing it well, but

747
00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,800
I think that they, at least 
attempted it. 

748
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:51,800
I guess. 
Just because I like how close 

749
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:56,100
they are, looking the Franks and
Gurren lagaan is That I would 

750
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,200
probably put it more towards 
overcoming the monster because 

751
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,200
like the end goal of darling of 
the Franks. 

752
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,800
There is like a site. 
There's like a light at the end 

753
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,500
of the tunnel type of thing. 
I suppose though. 

754
00:41:07,500 --> 00:41:10,300
The reason why I put it here is 
because rather than like saving 

755
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:17,500
the world, I guess the what hero
and zero to end up doing is they

756
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:22,200
decide to Like help each other 
or do do it for each other 

757
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:24,900
rather than do it necessarily 
for to save the world or to 

758
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,800
overcome them on, so they do it 
because they think they do bulk 

759
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:30,100
spirits. 
Well, it's a bit of both but 

760
00:41:30,100 --> 00:41:34,100
like I think I think. 
Yeah, I guess like them doing it

761
00:41:34,100 --> 00:41:36,700
for each other. 
Therefore, Saves the World type 

762
00:41:36,700 --> 00:41:40,000
of thing, right? 
So yeah, it's number two but 

763
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,900
like, I guess just happens by 
proxy, but I get it, I get it. 

764
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,500
And of course, like the flash 
shot of the, the show is like, 

765
00:41:47,500 --> 00:41:49,400
the two of them like reuniting a
big rig. 

766
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,600
Coordinated as shit. 
Like, yeah, the the endings 

767
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,700
terrible. 
Well, I don't think they're 

768
00:41:53,700 --> 00:41:54,900
being cry. 
I think that the idea is that 

769
00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,000
they are kindred spirits, but 
whatever. 

770
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,100
Um, that's beside the point we 
can talk about during the things

771
00:42:01,100 --> 00:42:04,200
that sound. 
So let's move on to the quest 

772
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,400
miles. 
What do you have is your number 

773
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,700
one? 
Sure. 

774
00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:10,700
My first one is a place further 
than the universe, bro. 

775
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:13,600
Come on. 
What you actually have. 

776
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,600
That one. 
So, of course, I do this again, 

777
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,500
I have it, but I have it in a 
different key. 

778
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,500
So the reason I didn't put it in
voyage and return, which is 

779
00:42:22,500 --> 00:42:25,100
another place that I feel like 
it could fit is because I felt 

780
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:29,900
like the main goal was getting 
to Antarctica and being able to 

781
00:42:29,900 --> 00:42:33,900
experience and Arctica to prove 
to yourself that like, you were 

782
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:38,300
capable of overcoming this goal,
this Quest this obstacle. 

783
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:45,900
So like, you know, since the 
goal was like getting there and 

784
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:48,900
I did read this. 
The quest does say like getting 

785
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:53,100
to a certain And location can be
the quest as opposed to like 

786
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,400
that. 
That's sort of like why I went 

787
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:01,900
with that because like the 
stated goal is to get to 

788
00:43:01,900 --> 00:43:05,500
Antarctica for the main girl 
whose name. 

789
00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:09,900
I forget. 
He hadn't just that's two girls 

790
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,300
is like that's their main thing.
Like, oh, yeah. 

791
00:43:12,300 --> 00:43:16,100
Well then yeah and like so, you 
know not to get too into your 

792
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:17,700
Voyager turn. 
I think there's definitely a 

793
00:43:17,700 --> 00:43:20,400
lens you can look at it when you
like I view it as like her 

794
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,300
relationship with her mother and
like being able to like come 

795
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:29,000
back being better, you know 
situated with that afterwards. 

796
00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:31,300
So I'll let you go more into 
that afterwards, but I was 

797
00:43:31,300 --> 00:43:35,500
approaching it from the angle of
her and the other girls 

798
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,200
perseverance and desire to 
accomplish a goal since they 

799
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,900
all, you know, want to go for 
different reasons and they all 

800
00:43:41,900 --> 00:43:43,900
have their own goals that 
they're accomplishing with the 

801
00:43:43,900 --> 00:43:48,400
strip and, you know, being able 
to just get there was an 

802
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,000
achievement. 
And that's why I went with the 

803
00:43:51,008 --> 00:43:53,900
place for than the universe. 
Yeah, I think that that's fair. 

804
00:43:53,900 --> 00:43:56,600
So once again Quest and Voyager 
return definitely do overlap a 

805
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,700
lot. 
I think yeah. 

806
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,700
I think I get into it later. 
I fought pretty hard about where

807
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:07,500
to put that one and I ultimately
decided to do the quest because 

808
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:10,500
it gave room for me to do a meme
for Voyager. 

809
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,000
So I do have an honorary mention
for a couple of categories, so 

810
00:44:16,008 --> 00:44:19,300
don't feel bad if you on your 
last one while throat. 

811
00:44:19,500 --> 00:44:21,800
About like another you know, 
like quick shout out like oh 

812
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,200
shout out, shout out, even 
Galleon for being a comedy, you 

813
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:30,800
know, shopping every single 
category, that pizza. 

814
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,600
You do you have anything bad for
ya. 

815
00:44:32,700 --> 00:44:36,700
So I guess I'll probably bounce 
off Mi why I put it in the quest

816
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:39,300
and so Voyage in return. 
I think if it was like somebody,

817
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:43,700
like, only Mari who like went to
Antarctica and came back that I 

818
00:44:43,707 --> 00:44:46,400
think I would put it in void 
return, but considering that we 

819
00:44:46,408 --> 00:44:50,600
had like four main characters. 
Also, Look out for different 

820
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,900
reasons. 
I felt like the the destination 

821
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:58,500
was the important part and that 
like Even though it's like 

822
00:44:58,500 --> 00:45:00,800
Deeks, The Experience. 
They learn along the way was 

823
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,400
like a theme. 
I think it was just like, more 

824
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:07,100
of like coming together and 
getting to the destination as 

825
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:10,700
What mattered the most in that 
story and everything in between 

826
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:12,900
was kind of like what built it 
up. 

827
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:17,300
But that's cause I think it was 
just like one character. 

828
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,100
I think I would avoid turn turn 
both since we had four main 

829
00:45:20,100 --> 00:45:21,600
characters for, for different 
reasons. 

830
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,100
I went with the quest that's 
interesting because like, 

831
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:26,000
because of the four, main 
characters in for different 

832
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,900
reasons, that's why I put it in 
the Did you return? 

833
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:31,200
So that's interesting to me, 
please? 

834
00:45:31,300 --> 00:45:32,300
Disagree. 
There you go. 

835
00:45:32,300 --> 00:45:37,200
Fuck, you Pete, sweet, but we'll
get into that later. 

836
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:41,500
Also, from my quest. 
I had Violet ever Garden because

837
00:45:41,500 --> 00:45:44,700
and the main reason I put Violet
inquest rather than Rags to 

838
00:45:44,707 --> 00:45:53,100
Riches is because the reason 
Violet goes on these voyages and

839
00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:55,700
goes on these adventures and 
tries to find all these 

840
00:45:55,700 --> 00:46:00,900
different things is Not just try
to find the major the the, the 

841
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,200
quest, the goal that she set out
with that is clearly defined in 

842
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,800
the show as well or it's stated 
in the show is she wants to find

843
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,900
out what love means or what love
is. 

844
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,800
So that's why I labeled it as 
the quest because it is her 

845
00:46:14,300 --> 00:46:17,500
trying to answer this one 
question or find out, find this 

846
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:20,600
one like treasure. 
So to speak of what is love. 

847
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,600
Was it mean yada yada, so, and I
especially think with the 

848
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,900
ending, with the movie, I Really
think that she finds out what 

849
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:32,600
that answer is. 
And she and that's, that's why I

850
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:35,100
think it is the quest. 
But again, I definitely can 

851
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:36,600
agree. 
Rags to Riches, fits very well 

852
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,800
with Violet. 
No, I actually, I really like 

853
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,800
the quest there. 
I think that's great. 

854
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,900
I think parts of Mind. 
There we go. 

855
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,900
Reason that I well. 
I mean, you know, I think my 

856
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:49,800
outfits I think yours does fit 
better to be perfectly honest. 

857
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:56,800
I think part of the reason I 
didn't Like violet ever Garden. 

858
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,700
It didn't resonate with me as 
much is because I I took the 

859
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:06,100
quest like I sort of thought the
like the actual Quest, you know,

860
00:47:06,100 --> 00:47:10,500
the real love along the way was 
like accepting loss and like 

861
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:14,500
understanding like I thought 
that was like a necessary part 

862
00:47:14,500 --> 00:47:18,200
to her Quest and I just like, 
don't feel like that happened 

863
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,200
and so. 
Like that's might be why I 

864
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:26,700
didn't like initially think that
for Violet, you know, just 

865
00:47:26,700 --> 00:47:29,700
because like the way that I 
engaged with it was like 

866
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:32,900
slightly different than the way,
you know you and Pete engaged 

867
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:35,400
with it. 
For example, sure, but like you 

868
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:38,600
you saying that? 
I think I mean really does. 

869
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,400
I think that's the best fit for 
it. 

870
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:43,500
Thank you. 
And my next one up is like very 

871
00:47:43,500 --> 00:47:45,900
similar to what Pat said. 
But like in a different sense. 

872
00:47:45,900 --> 00:47:47,500
I'm looking forward to talking 
about it. 

873
00:47:47,900 --> 00:47:49,900
Awesome. 
Well, hopefully mi mi is 

874
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:51,600
probably ghost. 
Let's go. 

875
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,800
I'm not going to steal it. 
You already use this one feet. 

876
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:55,700
My second one is Fullmetal 
Alchemist Brotherhood. 

877
00:47:55,700 --> 00:47:59,000
All right. 
Um, so, you know, I think that 

878
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:07,200
the quest aspect of this one is 
to me like the main thesis of 

879
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,200
it. 
They're trying to get their 

880
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:09,900
bodies back. 
That's what they're doing the 

881
00:48:09,908 --> 00:48:14,800
entire time and you know, there 
are different challenges. 

882
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,900
They face there are different 
monsters. 

883
00:48:16,900 --> 00:48:19,500
They have to beat in order to 
get this Quest done. 

884
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:24,000
Lots of sacrifices. 
They have to make but at the end

885
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,100
of the day, what they're trying 
to do and I think specifically 

886
00:48:27,100 --> 00:48:32,200
Ed is most trying to do is get 
his body like get his body back 

887
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:37,900
and get his brother's body back 
so that they can, you know, live

888
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:40,900
normal lives, you know, and and 
ultimately they're able to 

889
00:48:40,900 --> 00:48:45,000
accomplish that. 
So that was my take on that 

890
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:46,400
Pete. 
I know you're a big fan. 

891
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:51,000
What are your thoughts? 
I mean, I I agree that I think 

892
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:53,600
full Mel is one of those like 
Neon Genesis is where like you 

893
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,700
can throw it into like six or 
seven of these. 

894
00:48:55,700 --> 00:48:58,000
And I think it makes sense, its 
massive, right? 

895
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,200
I mean and there's like seven 
different arcs and like, you 

896
00:49:00,207 --> 00:49:03,500
know, individual arcs can have. 
Oh, yes because they're like 

897
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,800
open-and-shut stories sometimes.
Yeah. 

898
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,200
So yeah. 
I have no qualms with that take.

899
00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,300
I think it makes sense to, from 
my limited knowledge about the 

900
00:49:12,308 --> 00:49:14,300
show Pete. 
What's your second one? 

901
00:49:14,300 --> 00:49:15,800
So, what's your your big one? 
Yeah. 

902
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:18,900
So the kinda, it's like the idea
of like violet. 

903
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:20,600
Like what Pat was saying was 
like searching. 

904
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,400
For something more or like the 
idea of love. 

905
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,400
This one is like searching for 
the idea of like forgiveness and

906
00:49:30,100 --> 00:49:32,200
but also like, literally finding
that person. 

907
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:39,100
And I did a silent voice where 
the Redemption of Shia and him 

908
00:49:39,100 --> 00:49:46,600
trying to make up for the wrongs
that he did and like, have that 

909
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,400
forgiveness and lose that guilt 
that he has for being such a 

910
00:49:49,408 --> 00:49:53,000
terrible person as a younger. 
Person, but the quest was to 

911
00:49:53,000 --> 00:49:56,700
find Shell Co and he did and 
they're just like what became of

912
00:49:56,700 --> 00:50:00,300
that as well as like kind of 
finding something at like 

913
00:50:00,300 --> 00:50:03,800
finding I do like a treasure at 
the end of the trailer. 

914
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,500
So it's like that or something 
along those lines where it's 

915
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:10,000
like the quest was to do this, 
but like they face like a bunch 

916
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,400
of different obstacles through 
like rejection like not wanting 

917
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:16,900
to see that person but then in 
the end like getting the 

918
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:23,200
acceptance removing that guilt 
having a And just like, I think 

919
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:25,800
that's just like resonated with 
me with the quest and his 

920
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:27,400
journey throughout the entire 
movie. 

921
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:32,300
I think that's fair. 
I can throw it in rags to riches

922
00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:37,700
and maybe rebirth even as well 
with if you're looking at 

923
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:40,400
specifically from the main, the 
MCS point of view. 

924
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:43,300
But yeah, I definitely think the
quest fits very well to where 

925
00:50:43,300 --> 00:50:44,700
he's yeah. 
He's looking for that. 

926
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:47,000
I think rebirth does because I 
do think you see in the movie 

927
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:51,600
there is like a specific scene 
where everything changes for 

928
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:55,100
showya and I think rebirth 
because would also be like 

929
00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:58,800
another spot. 
I would throw it into cool. 

930
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,900
Right, so my second one. 
I'll be quick with this one 

931
00:51:01,900 --> 00:51:03,100
because I think it's pretty 
simple. 

932
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:08,500
I have golden comely, which is a
show that I love and adore. 

933
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,900
It's about. 
It's almost like a heist set in 

934
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:16,700
sort of ancient and not ancient.
I had, you know, set in like 

935
00:51:16,900 --> 00:51:21,100
nineteen, hundreds, Japan back 
when the russo-japanese war was 

936
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:25,400
going on. 
But it very simply there are 

937
00:51:25,408 --> 00:51:27,200
searching for Treasure. 
They're dealing with problems 

938
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:30,600
along the way other Temptations 
other things going on. 

939
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,900
And so, yeah, they're just, 
they're going for a hidden 

940
00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:39,500
treasure and I know it's like 
one piece, but I actually like 

941
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:41,300
it is the best way to describe 
go and Community. 

942
00:51:41,300 --> 00:51:43,900
I feel like almost, you know, 
like they're they're endlessly 

943
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,400
searching and they're on to 
their fourth season soon, so I 

944
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,900
can't wait for that. 
But yeah, so what have you got 

945
00:51:48,900 --> 00:51:50,000
for your third one? 
Mi? 

946
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:51,600
Sure. 
I'll be pretty quick with it. 

947
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:57,500
My third one is Neon Genesis. 
Even DeLeon and um, not sure if 

948
00:51:57,500 --> 00:51:58,700
you're picking up with the beer 
yet. 

949
00:51:59,700 --> 00:52:04,500
Maybe the cheat code. 
That is the so II took the 

950
00:52:04,508 --> 00:52:06,900
specifically From kendos 
perspective. 

951
00:52:06,900 --> 00:52:09,400
Right? 
So gendo has a quest to unite or

952
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:16,200
reunite with his wife. 
Yui, and he does like a whole 

953
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,400
lot of things in order to get 
this done, including preserving 

954
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:25,600
her soul in a giant human neck 
and Do you know turning the 

955
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:30,600
entire world into Tang, you know
in order to try to achieve this 

956
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,400
goal? 
And he does achieve it for a 

957
00:52:33,408 --> 00:52:38,500
period of time before. 
It is forwarded by his useless 

958
00:52:38,500 --> 00:52:39,700
child. 
That he probably should have 

959
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:43,500
loved a little bit more. 
Lots of characters in the show 

960
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,200
have quests. 
Shinji has a quest to learn why 

961
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,900
he wants to Pilot. 
The Ava Oscar has a quest to 

962
00:52:48,900 --> 00:52:52,000
like try to impress her father 
and stuff. 

963
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:57,100
There's stuff in there. 
But I went with kendos, because 

964
00:52:57,100 --> 00:52:58,900
I talk about the other 
characters later. 

965
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,000
Nice. 
I wonder what I wonder when. 

966
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,000
Yeah. 
All right, Pete. 

967
00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,000
What have you got for your third
one? 

968
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:10,300
My last one is I think it's just
really cutting simple, like 

969
00:53:10,300 --> 00:53:12,000
literally going on a quest to 
finding something. 

970
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,900
I did made in Abyss. 
It's Rico, is looking for her 

971
00:53:14,900 --> 00:53:19,200
mom, in the abyss and almost 
dies, like seven times. 

972
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,000
I wouldn't put it in voyage and 
return yet because they haven't 

973
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,400
returned from the abyss yet. 
So I think once the story is 

974
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,900
complete, then maybe it could 
fall into that category. 

975
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:30,800
But for right now, the main 
focus is recall, trying to find 

976
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:34,500
her mom and just begin cool with
a rag. 

977
00:53:34,700 --> 00:53:38,000
And not a It's a question right 
now, but we'll find out if it'll

978
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:39,900
be a voyage in return or a 
tragedy. 

979
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,000
Yeah, we'll find out what be a 
tragedy. 

980
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,200
Hmm. 
She could get this, get stuck 

981
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:46,100
down there. 
And then there you go. 

982
00:53:46,100 --> 00:53:48,200
That's what it is. 
I mean, I don't know how you 

983
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,000
could write it. 
Where it isn't, what happens. 

984
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,100
I guess, you know, I know again,
we'll find out what elevator you

985
00:53:54,100 --> 00:53:55,800
knew. 
This was here the entire time. 

986
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,700
Yeah, the end. 
Yeah, that's how it works in 

987
00:53:59,700 --> 00:54:02,000
vain the best to where they can 
just take elevators without 

988
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,700
consequence. 
You know, there's not any 

989
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,200
specific scene that I can think 
of. 

990
00:54:05,300 --> 00:54:07,300
Of where, you know, certain 
someone? 

991
00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:10,100
Yeah, it's not at all. 
Yeah. 

992
00:54:10,100 --> 00:54:12,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, nothing bad happens. 

993
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:18,000
Yeah, so mine is a very serious 
one. 

994
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:21,100
A very, very deep meaning one, 
as well. 

995
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,500
For question. 
Number three, late that camp. 

996
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:28,800
I was that guy. 
Okay. 

997
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,400
I was legit thinking about this.
But I also kind of want to put 

998
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,900
it in rags to riches because 
they're just broke high school 

999
00:54:34,900 --> 00:54:38,400
kids. 
Yeah, so their goal, they are on

1000
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:45,300
a quest to go camping and 22 
Club activities and they do and 

1001
00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:49,300
to yeah, and to just enjoy 
nature and Mount Fuji Saint. 

1002
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,700
And do they do that? 
Yes, they do. 

1003
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:56,400
They achieve their Quest. 
So that is the best way to put 

1004
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,100
it. 
I do. 

1005
00:54:57,100 --> 00:55:00,800
I thought that one fit extremely
well because it's super simple 

1006
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:02,500
and fun and I love laid-back 
Camp. 

1007
00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:03,900
So yeah, there you go. 
All right. 

1008
00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,500
Let's move on to Voyager return.
Halfway there, boys. 

1009
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:08,600
We're Trucking away. 
I like this. 

1010
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:11,000
So, yeah, boys. 
Return models. 

1011
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:12,000
What do you got for? 
Number one? 

1012
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,600
Sure. 
My first one is Sword, Art 

1013
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,500
Online. 
Specifically, the, the first 

1014
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:23,600
season, you know, Kirito takes 
what he thinks is going to be 

1015
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:27,800
quite the short virgin Voyage, 
you know, maybe, initially into 

1016
00:55:30,300 --> 00:55:35,400
The game and it ends up being a 
longer one, but along the way, 

1017
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:38,600
he learned some valuable things 
about himself and others, and 

1018
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:40,600
also several thousand people 
died. 

1019
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:43,300
But when he returns, he's a 
different person, right? 

1020
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:48,600
He's changed. 
He's learned, you know, to be a 

1021
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:53,100
little more caring and stuff. 
So I think that, you know, he 

1022
00:55:53,100 --> 00:55:56,800
learned something on his trip. 
He's able to open up a little 

1023
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,500
bit. 
You can see, in subsequent 

1024
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:02,500
Seasons, he You to work through 
some of the trauma that happens,

1025
00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:06,400
but he does get there in. 
Like that's its own thing, that 

1026
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,900
I think there's a whole Voyage 
in return, you could talk about 

1027
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:15,400
and Gun Gale, about his trip in 
like learning to get past PTSD 

1028
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,100
and everything like that. 
Sword Art. 

1029
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:23,000
Online, of course, is the finest
work of art and no one can say 

1030
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:26,900
otherwise. 
And so I think it belongs here. 

1031
00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:29,800
I agree. 
I couldn't find a way to put it 

1032
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,100
into my into my 7 actually. 
I didn't really know how to so 

1033
00:56:33,100 --> 00:56:35,900
I'm glad you did. 
I definitely agree though, that 

1034
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:37,300
Voyager return makes a lot of 
sense. 

1035
00:56:37,300 --> 00:56:41,000
I think you could argue rebirth 
as well with him, almost, 

1036
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,200
literally being reborn as a new 
person into the, the real world.

1037
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,600
After, you know, going through 
everything. 

1038
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,400
I did multiple times in 
different. 

1039
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,900
Worlds are in like the debt 
digital worlds, whatever you 

1040
00:56:50,908 --> 00:56:53,400
want to say, but I like the 
legend return a lot. 

1041
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,000
That's really good. 
Why I put it Pete. 

1042
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,600
What do you got? 
So for my first one, what I 

1043
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:01,400
thought avoid return, my mind 
went straight to e Sakai and I 

1044
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,100
went to the absolute 
Masterpiece. 

1045
00:57:04,100 --> 00:57:12,400
That is Sword Art online. 
And I mean, honestly, I'm just 

1046
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:13,800
literally just try to think of 
like a nice. 

1047
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,200
Acai. 
Were they legit like come back? 

1048
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,500
It doesn't have to be some of 
those. 

1049
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:22,800
Yeah, it's like I think it and 
made the only one I could. 

1050
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,000
Like, really think of is Sword 
Art. 

1051
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,100
So I was sort of. 
I want to do grimgar, but I 

1052
00:57:28,100 --> 00:57:30,400
don't know what happened to 
group car after season one. 

1053
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,800
So, I'm not like what Mi said? 
They learn things while they're 

1054
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,700
in this world. 
Come back, real life stuff 

1055
00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:40,400
happens. 
I'm not going, I'm not the 

1056
00:57:40,408 --> 00:57:42,900
biggest Sao guys, so I don't 
have a whole lot to say, but I 

1057
00:57:42,900 --> 00:57:46,200
just thought I'd say he'll fit 
the bill like pretty like 

1058
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,600
spot-on. 
Terms of anime. 

1059
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,700
This is borderline, impressive 
Pete, great minds. 

1060
00:57:51,700 --> 00:57:53,800
Think alike. 
Maybe yeah, they do. 

1061
00:57:55,100 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaking of great minds thinking
alike. 

1062
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,200
I think place for the diverse 
place a place for the new 

1063
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,800
universe is a voyager return, 
specifically, because I think 

1064
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:09,600
that the Quest for some of them 
are for most of them wasn't just

1065
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,600
to get to Antarctica. 
And I think that is so like 

1066
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:13,500
people saying earlier, because 
there's four of them. 

1067
00:58:13,700 --> 00:58:15,500
That's, like, with different 
things. 

1068
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:16,600
That's why it's the quest to 
get. 

1069
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:19,300
Get to the spot. 
I for me it was the exact 

1070
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:22,900
opposite logic where they have 
four different goals. 

1071
00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:26,600
One of them wants to like learn 
to, it wants to just do commit 

1072
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,600
to something and do it. 
The other wants to prove to 

1073
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
herself that she's capable of 
doing things. 

1074
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:36,600
The other has to do it because 
of who are wants to make 

1075
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,700
friends, right? 
That's what the the influencer 

1076
00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:40,400
girl wants to do is like make 
real friends. 

1077
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,200
And then the last one obviously 
wants to go there to find out 

1078
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:47,700
what happened to her mother for 
good and Get closure. 

1079
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,900
So I think that all four of 
those and then obviously you've 

1080
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,700
returned from Antarctica and 
then get back to their lives or 

1081
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,300
live their lives. 
So that's why I looked at, as a 

1082
00:58:56,300 --> 00:58:59,200
voyage in return, rather than 
just a quest. 

1083
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:02,700
I could absolutely see that. 
Yeah. 

1084
00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:06,100
That was my logic behind at 
least but I again, questioned 

1085
00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:08,700
Voyager return a very similar. 
Yeah. 

1086
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:13,900
It's sort of So, so very 
similar. 

1087
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:16,000
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1088
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,000
Yeah. 
I mean, I'm not quite avoid 

1089
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,500
returning the book yet. 
So I'm interested to see how he 

1090
00:59:21,500 --> 00:59:28,300
like, differentiates it. 
But like isn't the Odyssey like 

1091
00:59:29,300 --> 00:59:32,700
just like the quest part of The 
Return part of The Iliad. 

1092
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,300
Yes. 
Sort of. 

1093
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:40,300
So, yeah, I there's more. 
I'm not, you know, I yeah, 

1094
00:59:40,300 --> 00:59:42,600
that's like kind of like that 
though, right? 

1095
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:47,800
Because he's already out, and 
about when The Iliad starts, and

1096
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:51,900
then he has to come back to help
because like, everyone's trying 

1097
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:53,600
to bang his wife. 
And also, there are some other 

1098
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,000
issues with, like, a couple 
other issues. 

1099
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:58,600
You know, I think there's like a
cyclops or something. 

1100
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,800
I don't know. 
Um, there might be whatever the 

1101
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:07,200
point I'm not In your best that 
I appreciate that. 

1102
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:11,100
Um, but yeah, like so I'm 
interested to see how that gets 

1103
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:14,100
like differentiate. 
I feel like a voyage in return, 

1104
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:17,200
just features. 
So many quests in it, like most 

1105
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,000
of the time that it's 
interesting, too. 

1106
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,300
I'm excited to get like a 
academics. 

1107
01:00:23,300 --> 01:00:25,200
Take on. 
Yeah. 

1108
01:00:25,300 --> 01:00:27,800
How these differentiate. 
Yeah, like for me. 

1109
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,000
I think the main thing for me is
that like they retire, they were

1110
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,200
turned and they have changed as 
a person because like, you know,

1111
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:38,700
Could argue for Quest. 
So like violet, let's say she's 

1112
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:43,100
questioning if I'm what love 
means but she doesn't it's not 

1113
01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:46,100
necessarily about love what 
finding out what love means. 

1114
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:48,900
And then her changing it's more 
about her just objectively 

1115
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:52,500
because like a square rectangle 
thing like yeah in my head voice

1116
01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:55,700
and return is like usually Quest
but not all quests are a voyage 

1117
01:00:55,700 --> 01:01:00,700
and a return, you know, but You 
know, I don't know. 

1118
01:01:00,700 --> 01:01:02,800
I'm a chemist. 
I took like two years of 

1119
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:07,900
language classes and college. 
You can't even read. 

1120
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,700
Yeah, he's doing really well. 
So far for someone who can't 

1121
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:12,200
read. 
It's been quite impressive. 

1122
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:13,800
I got great isn't what can I 
say? 

1123
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,000
He just plagiarized from miles. 
There you go. 

1124
01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:19,600
So what's your second one? 
I'm speaking this weekend. 

1125
01:01:20,700 --> 01:01:29,800
Um, so I'm stretching the return
one on this but this is One of 

1126
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,100
our favorite anime as a podcast 
was like a battle for at. 

1127
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,800
Let's go. 
So I've picked Twilight. 

1128
01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:46,900
Yeah, I love that. so, Bella 
gets brought into like this, 

1129
01:01:46,900 --> 01:01:54,100
very strange World of Vampires 
and From her like normal mundane

1130
01:01:54,100 --> 01:01:59,300
life in Forks, Washington, and 
there's actually not anything 

1131
01:01:59,300 --> 01:02:00,400
else. 
You can have unfortunate 

1132
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:03,800
Washington. 
I've, you know, it's quite 

1133
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:08,700
boring. 
But, you know, there are then 

1134
01:02:09,100 --> 01:02:12,500
like, you know, she delves into 
this world of vampires and 

1135
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,800
werewolves and stuff and at the 
end, even though she's still 

1136
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:21,500
part of the vampire world, the 
hostilities and stuff of that 

1137
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,200
ecosystem. 
Have have calmed down a bit and 

1138
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,300
she's able to live a peaceful 
life with her emotionally, 

1139
01:02:28,300 --> 01:02:32,600
abusive husband, Edward Cullen, 
so they can be codependent 

1140
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:37,400
together. 
And so that was my take 

1141
01:02:37,500 --> 01:02:41,000
similarly for an anime. 
I also thought about Rosario to 

1142
01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:46,300
vampire where, you know, our 
protagonist is brought into a 

1143
01:02:46,300 --> 01:02:49,600
Strange Land filled with 
monsters in through that he is 

1144
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,900
able to learn to stand up for 
himself to be Be more outgoing 

1145
01:02:53,900 --> 01:02:58,300
and brave and, you know, he does
occasionally, go back home and 

1146
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:01,000
you can see his parents, see a 
difference in him. 

1147
01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:03,300
And so, that was my thought. 
They're going with to 

1148
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:07,300
vampire-related anime Twilight 
and Rosario to vampire. 

1149
01:03:07,300 --> 01:03:12,900
Very Duo Pete, was you got this.
So, the first sentence of 

1150
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:15,300
Voyager return is the 
protagonist goes to a Strange 

1151
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,700
Land, but what if the Strange 
Land came to the protagonist? 

1152
01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,600
And that's what I was doing a 
little twist on this Voyage 

1153
01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:25,500
return. 
I'm going with fruits basket and

1154
01:03:25,500 --> 01:03:32,800
it's Tohru discovering that the 
Zodiac characters are actually 

1155
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,800
like real and her coming to 
terms that Supernatural things 

1156
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:42,600
exist along with her like 
problems and just dealing with 

1157
01:03:43,700 --> 01:03:47,400
her like losing her mother being
homeless, that type of stuff 

1158
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:54,900
while also the whole cast of Of 
fruits basket having their own 

1159
01:03:54,900 --> 01:03:58,800
insecurities as their own 
problems with, like being 

1160
01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:02,800
inferior, with their family and 
serving like one specific 

1161
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:04,500
purpose. 
Like you did the cat, you have 

1162
01:04:04,500 --> 01:04:07,800
to do this and just like 
overcoming that, and it just 

1163
01:04:07,800 --> 01:04:11,500
like their Voyage together and 
then just at the end like the 

1164
01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:16,100
return where they break the 
curse, Toros able to find 

1165
01:04:16,100 --> 01:04:17,500
happiness again after losing 
her. 

1166
01:04:17,500 --> 01:04:22,900
Mom just like finding love 
within the World, I guess. 

1167
01:04:22,900 --> 01:04:24,700
Stuff like that. 
So, that's, I thought Fruits 

1168
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:26,100
Basket would be. 
Like, a fun. 

1169
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:28,400
Fun. 
Twist to voyage and return. 

1170
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:30,300
Yeah, it's a good twist. 
I like that. 

1171
01:04:31,700 --> 01:04:34,800
That is fun. 
I think it fits too because it 

1172
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:37,700
is a bit of a there. 
They go. 

1173
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:42,500
On an emotional Voyage to try 
and like like you said overcome 

1174
01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,500
the difficulties that they 
should overcome the monster, 

1175
01:04:46,500 --> 01:04:56,100
fuck its own problems and 
temptations, and it's just like 

1176
01:04:56,100 --> 01:04:59,100
them as like a because all the 
zodiacs are linked together. 

1177
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,600
So like they're all in it 
together, sort of trying to 

1178
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:05,400
break the curse. 
Then taro's sort of just like 

1179
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,800
the captain of the ship. 
Right? 

1180
01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:10,600
I like that. 
So you captain of The Iliad 

1181
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:16,200
almost, you know, hmm. 
Alright, alright, so my second 

1182
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,900
one, I had ears, uq the world in
colors, which is a show from 

1183
01:05:19,900 --> 01:05:25,200
like three or four years ago 
where there's a girl in like 

1184
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:32,300
2070 Japan. 
Where magic is like Normal or 

1185
01:05:32,300 --> 01:05:34,100
whatever you want to say. 
Like it's a is a regular thing 

1186
01:05:34,100 --> 01:05:35,700
that you can just buy from a 
store. 

1187
01:05:35,700 --> 01:05:38,000
You can buy like a bottle of 
magic or Stardust whatever you 

1188
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:42,600
want to call it. 
And basically she can't see 

1189
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:45,100
color. 
She's like, colorblind, whatever

1190
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,300
that not know, or she loses the 
ability to see color and she 

1191
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,900
voyages back to the past to 
spend time with her grandmother,

1192
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:57,600
who was an adolescent at that 
time learning to be like a witch

1193
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:02,100
or learning to be a magician. 
If you want to call it, and 

1194
01:06:02,100 --> 01:06:04,600
basically, she goes back in 
time, still can't see color, but

1195
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:08,800
then she slowly learns, she 
meets someone who becomes the 

1196
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:14,000
light of her life and he helps 
her see things clearly, again 

1197
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:17,200
before she then returns to the 
present and lives out her life 

1198
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,800
and current time. 
And, you know, I thought that 

1199
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,500
was a good one for origin, 
return partly because it is, she

1200
01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:26,000
does go back and then, come come
back to her own time. 

1201
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:29,500
But then also, she does grow as 
a person. 

1202
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:33,300
She experiences like a complete,
emotional change and outlook on 

1203
01:06:33,300 --> 01:06:36,600
life. 
And then she also still does 

1204
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:39,600
return to him, you know, like 
one of the last shots of the 

1205
01:06:39,607 --> 01:06:42,800
show is her visiting. 
You could only assume the guys 

1206
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:44,500
grave because, you know, it's 70
years. 

1207
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:47,900
So the guy, you know, the 18 
year old that she met is 

1208
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:50,600
probably dead at that point or 
whatever, you know, like it it's

1209
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:55,400
implied that he passed away and 
she returns as a different 

1210
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,600
person to the to the Future, 
which is a good. 

1211
01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:58,900
I thought that that was a fun 
one. 

1212
01:06:58,900 --> 01:07:02,700
I was wondering what are you 
Your wit show and I'll I'll get 

1213
01:07:02,700 --> 01:07:03,400
there. 
Don't worry. 

1214
01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:04,900
It's not it. 
What were they called? 

1215
01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:07,400
Witches in the show? 
I can't, I never saw so well, 

1216
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,500
you didn't watch this 10. 
So this was before you were a 

1217
01:07:09,500 --> 01:07:11,300
really big seasonal. 
Guy knows it was. 

1218
01:07:11,300 --> 01:07:14,000
I just did it. 
I heard, I heard these things 

1219
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:15,500
about it. 
So I didn't watch it was. 

1220
01:07:15,500 --> 01:07:17,900
All right. 
Um, I think you would like it 

1221
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:21,300
but it was very Niche sites. 
Yeah, it is. 

1222
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:23,600
It's not that sad. 
I don't think it's that said, 

1223
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:29,500
it's like a happy sad. 
All right, but yeah, so Mom, 

1224
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:32,300
Suppose you have for your third 
one, hurrah, for my third one. 

1225
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:36,800
I have Neon Genesis Evangelion. 
No, holy shit. 

1226
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:44,000
So this one, I looked at 
shinji's Voyage into like the 

1227
01:07:44,000 --> 01:07:47,200
nerve ecosystem. 
So at the beginning, he's picked

1228
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,100
up. 
He's brought into this land that

1229
01:07:49,100 --> 01:07:50,600
he really doesn't know anything 
about. 

1230
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:53,800
It's an underground base. 
He's been forced to fight and 

1231
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:58,500
robots and stuff. 
And by the end of all of it, the

1232
01:07:58,500 --> 01:08:00,700
end of the show at the end. 
Of the movie. 

1233
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:07,900
This stuff is gone. 
So like he like is out of this 

1234
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:10,100
and he is able to live a normal 
life. 

1235
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:16,700
He completes his voyage in Saves
the World by getting rid of 

1236
01:08:16,700 --> 01:08:21,000
instrumentality and we'll talk 
more about instrumentality 

1237
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,300
later. 
But wait, is there anymore 

1238
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,300
really? 
Oh man. 

1239
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:31,000
No way more even Galleon Pete. 
What? 

1240
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:35,300
Have you got for your third one?
I'll just cheating, by the way. 

1241
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:37,899
Yeah, obviously it's miles being
miles, who knows. 

1242
01:08:38,300 --> 01:08:39,800
It is. 
This was fun. 

1243
01:08:39,899 --> 01:08:42,899
I thought it was a fun technique
of like, it is fun. 

1244
01:08:42,899 --> 01:08:46,600
It is funny. 
Come kind of in the same realm 

1245
01:08:46,700 --> 01:08:53,500
of fruit basket, but it's were 
the Strange Land is unknown to 

1246
01:08:53,500 --> 01:08:56,399
those who are involved in the 
story. 

1247
01:08:56,800 --> 01:09:00,399
I went with the promise, Never 
Land, you have this world where 

1248
01:09:00,399 --> 01:09:02,300
they're orphans. 
They think they'll be adopted, 

1249
01:09:02,300 --> 01:09:05,800
but It's out there just like 
there to be consumed for food 

1250
01:09:05,800 --> 01:09:08,700
for these monsters. 
And then you see, like Emma Rae 

1251
01:09:08,700 --> 01:09:12,600
and Norman, and the whole gang 
escaped and they go to the 

1252
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,700
world. 
They learn skills through, you 

1253
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:19,200
know, Bond sirs who don't agree 
with the practices. 

1254
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:21,899
They learn, they find like 
weapons that they're able to 

1255
01:09:21,899 --> 01:09:27,100
fight back with and then they 
return back to like save all of 

1256
01:09:27,100 --> 01:09:29,899
the other orphanages. 
So to me that was like a pretty 

1257
01:09:29,899 --> 01:09:35,300
cut paste of voyage return. 
Then they returned to the maybe 

1258
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:39,500
and then season 3 returned with 
a slide show of season 3. 

1259
01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:45,000
Yeah, and they return to the 
real world through, you know the

1260
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,500
real at a real human world 
because apparently that's still 

1261
01:09:47,500 --> 01:09:49,200
exists in there. 
Whatever. 

1262
01:09:49,500 --> 01:09:53,700
God that was that is bad at 
dating as bad as everyone says, 

1263
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:54,800
yeah. 
It's like wait. 

1264
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,500
What did you give it was your 
writing? 

1265
01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:59,600
Well, I still gave it like a 
seven. 

1266
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:05,800
I think we can predict know. 
No, no to my anime list we go. 

1267
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:08,800
Let's look. 
Well. 

1268
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:13,600
I'll look and you do your third.
No, wait, I give it. 

1269
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:16,300
I pretty sure I gave it a 7 but 
even then that was a really high

1270
01:10:16,300 --> 01:10:18,200
score for it. 
Compared to other people. 

1271
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,000
All right. 
Yeah, I'll do my third. 

1272
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:22,700
My thirds really simple, easy 
peasy. 

1273
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:26,900
Here is where I get into my 
which wandering, which journey 

1274
01:10:26,900 --> 01:10:28,700
of Elena. 
I want to talk about it. 

1275
01:10:28,700 --> 01:10:30,600
There it is. 
There It Is. 

1276
01:10:31,300 --> 01:10:36,200
Well, it starts with the young 
girl Elena, who wants to be a 

1277
01:10:36,208 --> 01:10:38,700
witch. 
She wants to do all these things

1278
01:10:38,700 --> 01:10:41,200
because she's been reading a 
book called The Journey. 

1279
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:46,700
And Nike which was about all 
these different adventures and 

1280
01:10:46,700 --> 01:10:51,100
places that the that Nike had 
gone to in her life. 

1281
01:10:51,100 --> 01:10:54,400
And then written a book about 
she has to then learn how to be 

1282
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,700
a witch. 
Her parents are very like 

1283
01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,300
hesitant and like want to make 
sure she wants to do it before 

1284
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:02,000
she commits to traveling and 
doing all these things. 

1285
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:07,700
And yeah, she travels and learns
on her journey of that all these

1286
01:11:07,700 --> 01:11:10,600
different places in the world 
about all these different towns,

1287
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:15,700
and People along the way. 
Of course, it's revealed that it

1288
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:18,500
was her mother. 
That was Nike all along. 

1289
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,400
You know, that or was the person
in that the book is based off 

1290
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:25,600
of. 
But, yeah, so that's the, the 

1291
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,400
Journey of the voyage that she 
goes on and she returns home 

1292
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:29,900
with all of her different 
knowledge. 

1293
01:11:29,900 --> 01:11:35,500
And again, experiences, I guess 
as a different person because 

1294
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:40,100
she starts out kind of bratty, 
kind of snobby, you know, thinks

1295
01:11:40,100 --> 01:11:43,600
very highly of herself. 
And then she gets Welcome to the

1296
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:48,200
Real World very quickly and and 
learns to temper that never 

1297
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:50,700
completely though, which is what
I think is fun about it. 

1298
01:11:51,100 --> 01:11:52,500
But yeah, so let's move on to 
Comedy. 

1299
01:11:52,500 --> 01:11:54,600
Now, I gave it an eight by the 
way. 

1300
01:11:55,300 --> 01:11:56,300
No way. 
Yeah. 

1301
01:11:56,300 --> 01:12:01,200
I posted in the chat. 
I still don't think it's bad as 

1302
01:12:01,200 --> 01:12:04,100
ever. 
I really do I buy. 

1303
01:12:04,100 --> 01:12:06,100
That's been always been my 
stance because like, as 

1304
01:12:06,100 --> 01:12:08,500
objectively without being a 
source reader. 

1305
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:10,900
I thought it was pretty, okay, 
her pretty good. 

1306
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:12,700
Maybe not. 
Okay, pretty good. 

1307
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,500
That was my initial reaction to 
watching. 

1308
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:17,700
It's all good, baby. 
Oh, yeah. 

1309
01:12:17,700 --> 01:12:19,900
No, it's okay to like things I 
guess now. 

1310
01:12:19,900 --> 01:12:23,000
It's not know. 
Um, all right, let's do comedy. 

1311
01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:24,900
Speaking of things. 
We like comedy miles. 

1312
01:12:24,900 --> 01:12:26,900
What have you got? 
Sure. 

1313
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:31,700
My first comedy is the 
quintessential quintuplets. 

1314
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,800
So I guess I'm like cheating a 
bit because I read the entire 

1315
01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,100
Maga. 
So I know that there's nothing. 

1316
01:12:41,100 --> 01:12:42,400
I could just be anime. 
It does. 

1317
01:12:42,400 --> 01:12:46,300
A horrible tragic ending at the 
end but can't believe they all 

1318
01:12:46,300 --> 01:12:49,300
die. 
It's Yeah, yes. 

1319
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:51,400
With his sister. 
It's so tragic. 

1320
01:12:51,400 --> 01:12:55,300
Yeah, it's inverse of Four 
Weddings and a funeral. 

1321
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:57,700
It's for funerals and a wedding.
One of them has to kill the 

1322
01:12:57,700 --> 01:13:05,300
other four to be beloved. 
But, um, so, you know, it's a 

1323
01:13:05,308 --> 01:13:07,500
series of like some dramatic 
events. 

1324
01:13:07,500 --> 01:13:11,600
There's like things to overcome 
about, like, figuring yourself 

1325
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,600
out in like, you know, food 
Stroh has to think about, you 

1326
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,300
know, who he wants to be with 
and what all the different and 

1327
01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:20,000
girls mean to him. 
But I picked this one 

1328
01:13:20,500 --> 01:13:23,300
specifically because it like 
Harkins a bit to like a 

1329
01:13:23,300 --> 01:13:26,100
Shakespearean comedy where it 
ends with a wedding. 

1330
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:28,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1331
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:32,000
So like, you know it fits this 
but then it's also got your like

1332
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:36,700
Midsummer Night Dream, you know,
sort of deal where you end with 

1333
01:13:37,100 --> 01:13:40,900
with a wedding because that's 
how I believe all of 

1334
01:13:40,900 --> 01:13:46,300
Shakespeare's comedies and did. 
So that's why I went with this. 

1335
01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:50,700
I mean, you know, Most of the 
romantic comedy, sort of things 

1336
01:13:50,700 --> 01:13:55,000
are going to fit here there 
because you generally get Happy 

1337
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:57,300
Happy Endings. 
And there's like, confusion, but

1338
01:13:57,300 --> 01:13:59,500
it all gets sorted out at the 
end and everyone's happy. 

1339
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:02,700
So, yeah. 
Yes, of Pete. 

1340
01:14:02,700 --> 01:14:04,400
What have you got for comedy? 
Number one? 

1341
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:07,900
I'll see if I can steal. 
One of Mi is maybe it's a movie 

1342
01:14:07,900 --> 01:14:11,100
that he recently forced me into 
watching. 

1343
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:13,400
And as the night is short, walk 
on girl. 

1344
01:14:13,400 --> 01:14:18,400
And I, it's just like a great 
telling of a A college girl 

1345
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,500
getting drunk and just doing 
wild Shenanigans, throughout the

1346
01:14:21,500 --> 01:14:24,600
night. 
And just whatever comes of the 

1347
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:26,400
story. 
Whatever happens in the day, 

1348
01:14:26,500 --> 01:14:28,800
whatever happens in the night. 
She just goes along with it. 

1349
01:14:28,900 --> 01:14:32,400
There's like an underlying 
romance with the Senpai, where 

1350
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:38,000
the the kind of help he has like
this theory of running into her 

1351
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:40,000
eyes, like accident and 
quotations. 

1352
01:14:40,000 --> 01:14:44,500
What's a hundred percent of 
purpose to have this like red 

1353
01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:46,900
string of fate that they're 
meant to be together because 

1354
01:14:46,900 --> 01:14:49,500
they He's run into each other 
even though he's like doing it 

1355
01:14:49,500 --> 01:14:53,100
on purpose and try to get that 
in her head and her just living 

1356
01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:55,800
out having a great night out 
having fun with her friends, 

1357
01:14:55,800 --> 01:15:00,100
having fun with the random 
shenanigans that she has just 

1358
01:15:00,100 --> 01:15:01,900
been like drunk and being in 
college. 

1359
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:03,600
It was just like a great fun 
show. 

1360
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,300
It was little over the top, but 
in the end, really 

1361
01:15:06,300 --> 01:15:09,300
light-hearted. 
Really fun comedy. 

1362
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:13,000
And you get the conclusion to 
the romance and the date at the 

1363
01:15:13,008 --> 01:15:15,500
end of the movie, so, I thought 
that was my, that was my number 

1364
01:15:15,500 --> 01:15:20,000
one pick. 
That's fun to go along with, 

1365
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,400
what everyone else has done so 
far. 

1366
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,800
I kind of just took for the 
first one. 

1367
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,300
At least. 
I took my favorite romance or 

1368
01:15:27,300 --> 01:15:31,000
the my favorite romance. 
I thought fit the definition of 

1369
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,700
comedy in this. 
In this definition that was 

1370
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:40,000
golden time because I think that
not only is it comedic in 

1371
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,100
nature? 
And obviously, it's Rome. 

1372
01:15:42,100 --> 01:15:46,400
It's a romance show. 
It's about these two college 

1373
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:47,700
students fall. 
Love. 

1374
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:51,900
But it also does have a lot of 
confusion and dramatic events 

1375
01:15:51,900 --> 01:15:55,400
that happen near the end of the 
show that have to do with the 

1376
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:59,000
character having Amnesia having 
a second personality or you 

1377
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,700
know, and an internal conflict 
over whether he is making the 

1378
01:16:02,708 --> 01:16:06,400
right decision by dating, this 
girl, the girl that he chooses 

1379
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:12,000
over whatever else, but then at 
the end of the day they result 

1380
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,100
in they triumph over the 
circumstances and they're 

1381
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:18,600
together and then and like Does 
it end with a literal wedding? 

1382
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,400
But it essentially implies that 
it ends of the wedding. 

1383
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:22,600
So, that's why I liked about 
gold time. 

1384
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,600
And I think that it's comedy 
very well. 

1385
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:25,900
So, what have you got for? 
Number two miles? 

1386
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:30,300
He did not steal one of mine. 
Yeah, I'm sure Chuck's, yeah. 

1387
01:16:30,400 --> 01:16:33,800
Sorry. 
I for number two with, with 

1388
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:38,700
Angel Beats. 
And so I picked this one for a 

1389
01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:43,200
few reasons, one. 
Because I thought it would be a 

1390
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:47,000
good example to like, highlight.
Why? 

1391
01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:51,300
Like tragic backstory. 
Doesn't equal like tragedy. 

1392
01:16:51,500 --> 01:16:56,300
Yeah, and that you can still 
have like sadness and stuff in 

1393
01:16:56,300 --> 01:17:00,200
like a comedy when using the 
phrase this way. 

1394
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:05,400
So, you know, an angel Beats. 
There's a series of characters 

1395
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:11,400
there in the afterlife and 
they're trying to, you know, I 

1396
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,500
guess like fight against what 
they need to do to like move on 

1397
01:17:15,500 --> 01:17:18,900
and be fulfilled, but they End 
up being able to work together 

1398
01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:22,800
and you know, overcome the 
challenges that are needed to 

1399
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,500
like have happy endings for 
everyone and everyone at the end

1400
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:30,900
is able to like move on from the
afterlife, being a fulfilled 

1401
01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:37,100
person and you know happy with 
the experience. 

1402
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:41,700
They had the whole point of the 
place they go is to bring joy to

1403
01:17:41,700 --> 01:17:45,500
children, who died, too early. 
Who had tough lives, right? 

1404
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:54,200
So, You get that sort of. 
Like single clarifying happy 

1405
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:57,100
event at the end when they 
graduate. 

1406
01:17:58,100 --> 01:18:01,600
And though it's like sad, it's 
one of those like happy sad 

1407
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,300
things, right? 
They're sad because they need to

1408
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:08,300
leave this place but much like, 
you know, graduating or anything

1409
01:18:08,300 --> 01:18:12,700
like that. 
You're It's a joyous event 

1410
01:18:12,700 --> 01:18:15,200
overall. 
And so I picked it because I 

1411
01:18:15,200 --> 01:18:18,900
thought it did a good job of 
contrasting. 

1412
01:18:19,100 --> 01:18:22,000
Maybe like the normal view that 
we think of when we like the 

1413
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,700
popular term of comedy and how 
our author uses the term comedy,

1414
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:30,300
that being said, that show kind 
of sucked. 

1415
01:18:30,300 --> 01:18:33,100
Yeah, so that's a great example 
though. 

1416
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,800
It is a I think the way you put 
it is great. 

1417
01:18:37,200 --> 01:18:41,200
I like that. 
Similarly. 

1418
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:43,700
I guess I have one to go along 
with that. 

1419
01:18:43,700 --> 01:18:45,100
Later, Pete. 
What have you got for? 

1420
01:18:45,100 --> 01:18:45,500
Number? 
Two. 

1421
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,100
Number two, when I was looking 
at, like the plot of our story, 

1422
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:53,500
the plot, the definition of 
Comedy is like having like this 

1423
01:18:53,500 --> 01:18:57,200
central idea and overcoming it 
as well while being kind of like

1424
01:18:57,200 --> 01:18:58,800
light-hearted. 
And I went with a movie that 

1425
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,500
came out this year, called 
Josie, the tiger, and the fish, 

1426
01:19:01,500 --> 01:19:05,300
which is about a paralyzed, 
girl, and coming to terms with 

1427
01:19:05,300 --> 01:19:09,700
her disability. the same time, 
finding feelings for somebody in

1428
01:19:09,700 --> 01:19:16,900
the for the first time in her 
acceptance of It's like hard 

1429
01:19:16,900 --> 01:19:19,100
because like she's gonna have 
like difficulties throughout her

1430
01:19:19,100 --> 01:19:22,800
entire life being paralyzed and 
not wanting this person that 

1431
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:26,600
she's attracted to have to, 
like, go through that. 

1432
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:29,400
But also coming to terms was 
that's what she wants. 

1433
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:32,800
And him also like realizing the 
difficulties through that, but 

1434
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,300
it is mostly like a 
light-hearted comedy and I think

1435
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:38,400
they have a great like Dynamic 
and them coming together and 

1436
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:41,100
realizing like, hey, whatever 
challenges, like happens through

1437
01:19:41,100 --> 01:19:43,000
life, like we'll do it together 
and I thought that was like a 

1438
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:44,900
really good example of like the 
comedy, why? 

1439
01:19:45,200 --> 01:19:48,900
I also like, having fun with 
each other and have having fun 

1440
01:19:48,900 --> 01:19:52,000
through the adversities that 
they, that they share. 

1441
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:55,500
So, that's why I went with. 
I like that. 

1442
01:19:55,500 --> 01:20:00,200
I think that makes sense again, 
like, we're finding out a lot of

1443
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,700
rom-coms fit into this. 
Yeah, as well, right? 

1444
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:05,500
Yeah. 
So, number two, for me. 

1445
01:20:05,500 --> 01:20:08,200
I put Zombieland Saga as a 
number two here for me because I

1446
01:20:08,200 --> 01:20:13,300
think that I think the reason I 
put it in here, although you 

1447
01:20:13,300 --> 01:20:14,900
guys have really good job 
talking about it. 

1448
01:20:14,900 --> 01:20:16,100
And I believe it was Rags to 
Riches. 

1449
01:20:16,100 --> 01:20:23,400
What I put in here because I 
viewed it as them that no matter

1450
01:20:23,407 --> 01:20:25,400
what adversity. 
They faced. 

1451
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:28,000
They still were going to 
overcome it together and they 

1452
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,100
were going to, they have moments
of confusion and conflict. 

1453
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,300
But at the end of the day, it 
always does get sorted out. 

1454
01:20:35,300 --> 01:20:39,400
They always do come to some 
resolution, and it's also a 

1455
01:20:39,400 --> 01:20:40,600
comedy. 
At the end of the day. 

1456
01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,300
It's a Fun of Idols. 
It's making jokes about idle 

1457
01:20:44,300 --> 01:20:47,500
culture. 
It's having fun characters that 

1458
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,800
are fun, fun in having their 
interactions played for jokes 

1459
01:20:51,800 --> 01:20:54,000
and played for B. 
So that's why I put it in 

1460
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:55,800
comedy. 
Although I again, I, I 

1461
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,200
definitely can see now that it 
might fit better in rags to 

1462
01:20:59,208 --> 01:21:01,800
riches. 
But yeah, Mi. 

1463
01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:04,400
What's your third comedy? 
And well, I guess I don't need 

1464
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:08,700
to ask you but so why is Neon? 
Genesis Evangelion a comedy so I

1465
01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:13,700
you know I couldn't fit, Neon 
Genesis Evangelion in the 

1466
01:21:13,700 --> 01:21:17,200
comedy. 
Unfortunately, it's not very 

1467
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:20,400
light-hearted. 
So I went with weights, you're 

1468
01:21:20,407 --> 01:21:23,700
talking really builds of 
Evangelion for this. 

1469
01:21:23,900 --> 01:21:33,700
Um, and So, you know, as we all 
are aware, the Rebuild of 

1470
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:39,500
Evangelion are, of course, a 
reconstruction of Yvonne Neon 

1471
01:21:39,500 --> 01:21:42,500
Genesis Evangelion. 
They are showing a more hopeful 

1472
01:21:42,500 --> 01:21:46,200
way to do this. 
There's more Triumph. 

1473
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:51,200
Our characters are able to 
succeed, you know, so we're in 

1474
01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,400
Neon Genesis Evangelion, 
characters failed, and lost to 

1475
01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,000
their flaws. 
Our characters are Are able to 

1476
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:03,100
overcome them in this. 
I know that 3.1 are 33.0 plus 

1477
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:06,500
1.0 just came out so I'm not 
gonna get too into it. 

1478
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:10,500
But at the end we have this like
singular moment of clarity. 

1479
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,400
We have a resolution to the 
issue and we have a happily ever

1480
01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:20,200
after sort of moment, you know, 
while there while the story 

1481
01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,500
isn't free, from any setbacks. 
It is mostly a story of being 

1482
01:22:23,500 --> 01:22:27,200
able to overcome trauma and not 
be Controlled by it. 

1483
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:31,500
And there is a continuation of 
that throughout all of these. 

1484
01:22:31,500 --> 01:22:34,600
As they, re-examine these 
characters in a more positive 

1485
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,200
light, and then the Eds and 
absolute Banger. 

1486
01:22:38,500 --> 01:22:44,000
So that is why I picked the 
Rebuild of Evangelion for my 

1487
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,200
comedy. 
Nice. 

1488
01:22:46,300 --> 01:22:48,700
You had me there. 
I was like, wow, he couldn't 

1489
01:22:48,700 --> 01:22:53,600
noway just give up and not you 
had me for a split second Pete. 

1490
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:55,400
What's your third? 
One that has of the first half, 

1491
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:57,100
not gonna lie. 
I the last one I did not want to

1492
01:22:57,100 --> 01:23:00,400
do a rom-com, but I thought it 
was like three girls who all 

1493
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,100
have like, these silly problems 
trying to do a very simple task.

1494
01:23:03,100 --> 01:23:05,600
I won't keep your hands off eyes
Oaken. 

1495
01:23:05,900 --> 01:23:09,800
It's the problems are like their
parents, the school and getting 

1496
01:23:09,800 --> 01:23:11,600
money. 
It just to make an animated 

1497
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:13,200
short or whatever for those 
school. 

1498
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:15,500
Really light-hearted just like a
good time. 

1499
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:19,400
You can maybe put this in like a
quest or Voyager Eternal because

1500
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:21,500
they are set out to like do 
this. 

1501
01:23:21,500 --> 01:23:23,300
But I think it mostly just falls
under like this. 

1502
01:23:23,300 --> 01:23:25,600
Light-hearted. 
The goal is simple. 

1503
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:30,200
The problems are not super 
serious and overall. 

1504
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:32,900
They're just having like a good 
time being together and creating

1505
01:23:32,900 --> 01:23:34,800
what they love. 
Yeah. 

1506
01:23:34,900 --> 01:23:38,600
I think that that's a good way 
to put it to similarly, to Pete.

1507
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:41,200
My third one. 
I think you could also throw in 

1508
01:23:41,200 --> 01:23:43,300
a couple different categories, 
but I think that that's that 

1509
01:23:43,300 --> 01:23:46,100
happens with comedies, 
especially where It's hard to 

1510
01:23:46,100 --> 01:23:48,500
just have a story that's comedy 
because you has to be something.

1511
01:23:48,500 --> 01:23:51,600
There has to be conflict, and 
the comedy isn't usually part of

1512
01:23:51,608 --> 01:23:53,600
the conflict. 
It's usually some sort of other 

1513
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:56,100
plot point. 
But for so, my third one was 

1514
01:23:56,100 --> 01:24:01,000
Sarah's on my, where it's three 
guys or three boys that are all 

1515
01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:05,700
dealing with their own issues 
that they have to overcome, 

1516
01:24:05,700 --> 01:24:10,300
which they do through kappas and
pulling things out of people's 

1517
01:24:10,300 --> 01:24:15,200
butts and, you know, just a lot 
of other shenanigans that 

1518
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,200
happen. 
The show that are quite, it's a 

1519
01:24:17,200 --> 01:24:19,200
very fun show. 
I would this would be a great 

1520
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,200
watch Club show. 
I think I agree. 

1521
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,100
I want to check it out. 
The old piece, slaps to the Opie

1522
01:24:24,100 --> 01:24:28,100
is a banger. 
So is the Ed Peggy's or just on 

1523
01:24:28,100 --> 01:24:32,400
top as always with that stuff. 
So, yeah, I think it would be. 

1524
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:34,200
I think both would be very 
interesting. 

1525
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,900
There are, I think it fits 
comedy extremely well because it

1526
01:24:38,900 --> 01:24:41,300
at the end of the day, it is a 
comedic show in nature. 

1527
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,600
But yeah, so let's get into the 
the bread-and-butter. 

1528
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,000
This one's gonna be really, 
that's what I want to do. 

1529
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,900
Some tragic. 
Tragedies so mi man. 

1530
01:24:48,900 --> 01:24:51,100
I think I know what one of yours
might be for a tragedy. 

1531
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:52,700
But what's your, what's your 
first one? 

1532
01:24:52,900 --> 01:24:55,900
Well, I'll start, I think it's 
the one that I'm most likely to 

1533
01:24:55,907 --> 01:24:58,900
have overlap with Pete on. 
So I will start with it first. 

1534
01:24:59,500 --> 01:25:01,400
I went with plate. 
Light magi Madoka. 

1535
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,600
Magica. 
I did not know that was like, my

1536
01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:07,000
honorable been, should I knew? 
I could not bring up. 

1537
01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:10,600
I was like, that's Mi go ahead. 
So God. 

1538
01:25:11,100 --> 01:25:13,700
So I think that there are 
specifically two characters we 

1539
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:15,600
can look at here. 
I think the most obvious 

1540
01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:18,400
Obviously tragic character is 
the best character who is 

1541
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:22,900
streaming anime and it's Cupid 
because he just killed so many 

1542
01:25:22,900 --> 01:25:27,100
times and it's so sad. 
No, it's seiken Miki. 

1543
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:34,400
So sayaka is sort of like 
Galleon to a fault. 

1544
01:25:35,100 --> 01:25:41,000
She is like extremely Noble is 
unwilling to bend to the harsh 

1545
01:25:41,000 --> 01:25:45,900
world around her and anyway, and
as we know those things At do 

1546
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:52,100
not Bend break. 
So unlike the Pats defense in 

1547
01:25:52,108 --> 01:25:56,800
the Red Zone, which bends, but 
never breaks sciatica. 

1548
01:25:57,000 --> 01:26:01,300
Let's up a start, you know, just
three and out three and out and 

1549
01:26:01,300 --> 01:26:03,600
all of a sudden, there's an ATR 
bomb for a touchdown, and she 

1550
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,400
absolutely loses her fucking 
mind because she can't deal with

1551
01:26:08,700 --> 01:26:11,800
like the selfishness and 
everything in the world and the 

1552
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,300
harsh fights and stuff that 
she's supposed to deal with and 

1553
01:26:14,300 --> 01:26:17,600
eventually Falls. 
Are becoming a witch and having 

1554
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,400
to be killed by her enemies /, 
potential lover, Kyoko. 

1555
01:26:23,700 --> 01:26:29,000
So that was that, another 
example that I'm not exactly 

1556
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:35,700
sure of how like, I think it's 
tragic, but I'm not, you know, 

1557
01:26:35,700 --> 01:26:40,300
the person does succeed Madoka 
because they do succeed succeed 

1558
01:26:40,300 --> 01:26:42,700
in Madoka. 
Well, Homer at the end of 

1559
01:26:42,700 --> 01:26:48,700
rebellion Homer has flaws. 
Wow, is that she really likes 

1560
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:52,200
friendship like to do a 
concerning amount? 

1561
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:58,700
Yeah, um, it's so much so that 
she's willing to destroy the 

1562
01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:05,600
world for it and to encapsulate 
her friends into like a sort of 

1563
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,400
I don't know like fake 
environment where they can all 

1564
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:13,700
be friends together. 
At the end of rebellion. 

1565
01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:19,400
It seems like she succeeds. 
However, she speak in Monica. 

1566
01:27:21,300 --> 01:27:26,800
Doesn't really seem like she 
swayed, like she doesn't know 

1567
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:30,100
what's going on, but she hasn't 
changed as a person. 

1568
01:27:30,100 --> 01:27:33,600
So Homer, his forced her into a 
situation, but she hasn't 

1569
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:38,800
succeeded in so far as changing 
her friends mind to Value their 

1570
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,800
friendship, more than Modica 
values. 

1571
01:27:40,800 --> 01:27:45,300
Like, the betterment of the 
entire world and says that, you 

1572
01:27:45,300 --> 01:27:47,300
know, in the future, I guess 
we're going to have to like 

1573
01:27:47,300 --> 01:27:48,800
fight again. 
Monica doesn't know what that 

1574
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:50,200
means because her memories are 
gone. 

1575
01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:57,900
So, in some ways like I guess 
that could be like, Homer has 

1576
01:27:57,900 --> 01:28:01,500
refusal to give up that her 
insistence on. 

1577
01:28:01,500 --> 01:28:05,300
This is going to create a cycle 
where she continuously has to 

1578
01:28:05,308 --> 01:28:07,800
fight her friends and there's 
tragedy. 

1579
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:12,700
And there we do, have the sequel
movie to the sequel, movie 

1580
01:28:12,700 --> 01:28:19,000
coming out soon. 
So, you know, ruined, Madoka 

1581
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:20,700
forever if it's true. 
Yes. 

1582
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:26,000
To Can't wait for just an 
absolute unnecessary sequel. 

1583
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,800
Movie, that will I have faith, 
but that's, that's Monica 

1584
01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:33,000
Mexico, and why I believe it's a
tragedy. 

1585
01:28:33,500 --> 01:28:36,000
Fair enough. 
I thought about it, but I was 

1586
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:38,500
like, well, they kind of succeed
in the end or want to like, you 

1587
01:28:38,500 --> 01:28:42,100
know, like like a little bit. 
But obviously specifically what 

1588
01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:46,300
was sayaka because like Modica 
succeeds, right? 

1589
01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:50,100
Like yeah, that's why I'm very 
unlike the main series isn't 

1590
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,200
Active because like at the end 
of the day, the power of 

1591
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,500
friendship wins, and then the 
movie like The Power of 

1592
01:28:56,500 --> 01:28:58,900
friendship wins, like way too 
much. 

1593
01:28:59,200 --> 01:29:03,200
So I think like the movie sort 
of like deconstructs that but I 

1594
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,000
think looking at sayaka story 
and she's like a protagonist. 

1595
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:09,800
So I'm okay doing this through 
the first like nine episodes or 

1596
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,500
so is pretty I mean, she's a 
tragic hero, right? 

1597
01:29:14,500 --> 01:29:19,800
Like she's very like that. 
So yeah, I'm happy with with 

1598
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,700
that explanation and it's hard 
to find. 

1599
01:29:21,900 --> 01:29:25,500
Anime, as I think we'll find. 
So it's extremely hard to find 

1600
01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:28,200
tragedies and Anime. 
I think they are very far and 

1601
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:30,200
few between Pete. 
What have you got for your first

1602
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:31,900
one? 
Yeah, I'ma go with probably my 

1603
01:29:31,900 --> 01:29:34,200
most tragic character, just like
anything. 

1604
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,600
It's from my favorite show, the 
Manga and Anime, whatever of all

1605
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:39,200
time. 
That's berserk is specifically 

1606
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,900
Griffith. 
His downfall of him being so 

1607
01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:46,100
overwhelmed by Pride that he 
loses the guts in a duel for his

1608
01:29:46,100 --> 01:29:48,600
freedom, that he just absolutely
snaps. 

1609
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:52,700
And in response, causes the 
eclipse and the entire World is 

1610
01:29:52,900 --> 01:29:57,400
engulfed by Apostles. 
So him having this flaw of just 

1611
01:29:57,500 --> 01:30:02,300
having so much pride and being 
the best at everything and then 

1612
01:30:02,300 --> 01:30:06,500
losing to guts and a what I want
to duel is just like so tragic 

1613
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:10,300
for just not only him because he
goes into utter despair. 

1614
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:14,600
He loses himself as a person. 
He does questionable actions 

1615
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:18,300
that I think a lot of people 
would disagree with all because 

1616
01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:22,700
of his essentially World being 
Shattered by Being better than 

1617
01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:25,400
him at one thing. 
And to me. 

1618
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:29,300
I just, I just loved how, how 
that's like portrayed throughout

1619
01:30:29,300 --> 01:30:31,800
the entire story. 
It's essentially was the rest of

1620
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:38,100
Berserk, not just the golden age
is the cause of Griffiths demise

1621
01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:43,400
and his tragic nature of being 
this prideful leader and not 

1622
01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:48,100
coming to terms with. 
Everything else in the world 

1623
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:50,400
other than him being this God, 
essentially. 

1624
01:30:51,700 --> 01:30:54,400
Yeah, I so again where you're 
cheating by only having it be 

1625
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,800
one character, but well, yeah 
there are but I think that is 

1626
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:01,000
the focal point of Berserk is 
yeah. 

1627
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,700
I mean, literally three, four 
fifths of the story is because 

1628
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:11,200
Griffith does this, and I think 
it's like the the focal point of

1629
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:13,900
Berserk. 
Essentially, that's fair. 

1630
01:31:15,700 --> 01:31:18,200
I can't speak much to it because
I haven't read it yet or watched

1631
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:22,300
it that much. 
I've watched a little bit. but 

1632
01:31:22,300 --> 01:31:25,000
like my understanding Of the 
story. 

1633
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:26,700
It definitely is a very it's 
very tragic. 

1634
01:31:26,700 --> 01:31:30,000
The story itself. 
And then also the it is his 

1635
01:31:30,100 --> 01:31:32,500
fatal flaws. 
Like Griffiths is Griffiths like

1636
01:31:32,500 --> 01:31:39,300
flaws that he Can't admit defeat
or can't deal with the feet and 

1637
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:41,800
it causes like you said, most of
the things that happen to the 

1638
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,700
show. 
So yeah, so my first one that I 

1639
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:49,500
went with was quite I even in my
notes. 

1640
01:31:49,500 --> 01:31:50,800
I was like, oh, it's a bit of a 
stretch. 

1641
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,900
I put Fate/Zero. 
I was like, no, I completely 

1642
01:31:54,900 --> 01:31:56,400
almost like you gotta tell you 
for sure. 

1643
01:31:57,200 --> 01:31:59,800
All right, I threw it out as an 
option for Pete, when he was 

1644
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,400
trying to replace. 
He did a show. 

1645
01:32:01,700 --> 01:32:06,000
Hmm. 
So I put fade 0, because most of

1646
01:32:06,008 --> 01:32:08,300
the time the characters that 
died and show both servants and 

1647
01:32:08,300 --> 01:32:11,900
Masters, they both died from 
either their pride or their 

1648
01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:15,300
values such as on a sabre being 
like a knight honorable night. 

1649
01:32:15,300 --> 01:32:19,200
Same thing with the like the 
code of battle, whatever you 

1650
01:32:19,208 --> 01:32:20,700
want to call it. 
Same thing with the spear guy 

1651
01:32:20,700 --> 01:32:24,700
who isn't:, but I want to think 
he's good:. 

1652
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,700
But yeah, so that's the those, I
thought that they again, like 

1653
01:32:30,700 --> 01:32:33,500
it, it's a lot of it is really 
just put their pride, like you 

1654
01:32:33,500 --> 01:32:36,000
said with, with Griffith in this
case, like it's not necessarily 

1655
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:40,900
like many other fatal flaws. 
But I also think, you know, his 

1656
01:32:40,900 --> 01:32:47,100
name's creates coup, right, the,
the main guy pursues his his big

1657
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:51,400
flaw is his like for the better 
good or for the, you know, like 

1658
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:55,800
and that gets obliterated by the
by the Holy Grail or the Holy 

1659
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,100
Grail. 
He tries to obliterate that 

1660
01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:01,300
mentality and show them how 
flawed it is and his teacher 

1661
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:05,100
obviously past dies in that. 
Like are you the one of the best

1662
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:09,300
episodes and Anime, you know, 
because of that that flaw or 

1663
01:33:09,300 --> 01:33:11,900
that mindset? 
So I think that's why it's 

1664
01:33:11,900 --> 01:33:15,500
tragic because and the end of 
the day at least in Fate/Zero, 

1665
01:33:15,500 --> 01:33:18,500
if you just look at it as an 
objective story or its own 

1666
01:33:18,500 --> 01:33:21,300
thing, no one really wins. 
And no, but nobody wins. 

1667
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:23,900
Yeah, no one wins in the end. 
So that's why I was like able to

1668
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:26,900
justify putting it on there 
because it is a It fits the 

1669
01:33:26,900 --> 01:33:31,300
tragedy definition so well, even
though a lot of it is also maybe

1670
01:33:31,300 --> 01:33:34,200
the quest or whatever you want 
to say that. 

1671
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,200
I'll but I thought it's a 
tragedy very well. 

1672
01:33:36,600 --> 01:33:38,000
But yeah, so - what do you have 
for number two? 

1673
01:33:38,300 --> 01:33:44,100
Yeah, so I am taking what I 
guess I consider to be the The 

1674
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:49,000
easiest one for anime and I'm 
just gonna go with Death Note. 

1675
01:33:49,900 --> 01:33:53,800
I took it off when I had enough 
that I definitely know it. 

1676
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:54,900
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1677
01:33:54,900 --> 01:34:00,500
So, um, you know Light Yagami 
has a fatal flaw and like so 

1678
01:34:00,500 --> 01:34:05,700
many tragic Heroes. 
His fatal flaw is his pride, you

1679
01:34:05,700 --> 01:34:09,000
know, sir, everyone except for 
Brutus whose fatal flaws is love

1680
01:34:09,000 --> 01:34:18,800
for Rome and So, you know, he he
starts out, he gets the death 

1681
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:24,100
note and he attempts to make the
world a better place and, you 

1682
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:29,300
know, kill criminals and stuff. 
But he is murdering people and 

1683
01:34:30,400 --> 01:34:35,400
he starts sort of changing his 
view on like who he can kill and

1684
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,300
it will kill people to keep 
himself safe. 

1685
01:34:37,300 --> 01:34:42,000
Even if they're innocent all in 
order to like impose his view in

1686
01:34:42,008 --> 01:34:45,100
the world. 
And so He has a demonstrable 

1687
01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:49,800
good effect on the world. 
However, at the end of the day 

1688
01:34:50,500 --> 01:34:55,900
his pride gets him because he is
so sure that he didn't make a 

1689
01:34:55,907 --> 01:35:00,600
mistake that he didn't expect 
the way that he was caught. 

1690
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,300
Basically. 
He thought he had outsmarted 

1691
01:35:02,300 --> 01:35:07,600
everyone and he didn't account 
for someone having ever, you 

1692
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:11,100
know, one-upped him in any way. 
He tossed that out of his 

1693
01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:13,800
calculations and he is killed at
the end. 

1694
01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:18,300
So it's super easy there too, 
because he dies. 

1695
01:35:18,300 --> 01:35:22,800
So, there you go and his soul 
consents into the void. 

1696
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:28,400
So that is I think a pretty I 
think like the most like 

1697
01:35:28,400 --> 01:35:33,400
traditional tragic hero sort of 
thing in anime that I could 

1698
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,100
think of at least Yeah, I agree 
that that was definitely one of 

1699
01:35:37,108 --> 01:35:42,300
the more dislike just cut and 
dry it fit the definition. 

1700
01:35:42,300 --> 01:35:44,000
Really. 
Well, Pete. 

1701
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,800
What have you got for? 
Number two? 

1702
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:47,000
Okay, this one miles, you have 
to call, you have to come along 

1703
01:35:47,000 --> 01:35:49,400
with me on this journey and it's
one of those ones where I had a 

1704
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:52,600
hard time picking tragedy. 
So the protagonist in this 

1705
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:58,600
instance is society and I went 
with Psychopaths, and it's the 

1706
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:02,800
idea that society believes that 
this system that they're living 

1707
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:06,200
in the woods. 
I called the Sibyl system is 

1708
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:10,600
just so perfect and nothing is 
their world is perfect. 

1709
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:14,200
And then everything will be 
solved by the the Dominator, if 

1710
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,900
Hayes anything goes wrong. 
And then you see the system fail

1711
01:36:18,300 --> 01:36:21,400
and people start to understand 
what is happening. 

1712
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,900
It's like they're going through 
the like there's going through 

1713
01:36:23,900 --> 01:36:29,000
life as life tells them to 
because they have to keep their 

1714
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:31,600
like levels at a certain level. 
They have to be happy or they'll

1715
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:35,500
get whatever arrested and then 
their system just And you see 

1716
01:36:35,500 --> 01:36:39,800
that with like makishima trying 
to change the world and society 

1717
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:43,900
as a whole, it's flies that it's
just so it just thinks that 

1718
01:36:43,900 --> 01:36:45,800
there's nothing can go wrong. 
My life is perfect. 

1719
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:49,000
And then when things do go 
wrong, they don't know how to 

1720
01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,000
handle it. 
There's this scene where the 

1721
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:55,700
lady is being murdered in the 
street and the civilians are 

1722
01:36:55,700 --> 01:36:59,500
just watching this lady, get 
killed because they think it's 

1723
01:36:59,500 --> 01:37:01,500
right because their world is 
correct. 

1724
01:37:01,500 --> 01:37:03,800
Why would there be something 
wrong with this situation? 

1725
01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,400
That's happening? 
And so I guess that's kind of 

1726
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:12,600
like the the the far-off tragedy
of the society and the world of 

1727
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:17,100
psychopaths it so that you know,
they're tragic, flaws their 

1728
01:37:17,100 --> 01:37:19,800
desire for comfort as makishima 
would say. 

1729
01:37:21,600 --> 01:37:25,900
So, Did he did you finish 
Psycho-Pass? 

1730
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:30,000
No, I haven't but like I'm like 
85 percent away, done. 

1731
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:32,000
Interesting. 
Well, I'm sure nothing happens 

1732
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,600
in those last five episodes. 
Just like even just like the 

1733
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,900
scene of like the girl getting 
killed in the middle of the 

1734
01:37:37,900 --> 01:37:39,800
street. 
Yeah, you know, like any major 

1735
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:44,000
flaw to society thinking. 
Everything is perfect that I do 

1736
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,100
agree. 
It shows the flaw of the 

1737
01:37:47,100 --> 01:37:50,400
society, which is the trust in 
the system. 

1738
01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:52,500
They can't compute something 
going wrong. 

1739
01:37:52,500 --> 01:37:53,600
They are. 
Oh, wow. 

1740
01:37:53,700 --> 01:37:58,000
These crimes to happen because 
they are so. 

1741
01:38:01,700 --> 01:38:06,700
Ingrained in the system, right? 
Like they trust it so implicitly

1742
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:11,300
that when you can't trust it 
anymore, it's able to take 

1743
01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:15,700
advantage of them. 
And that is I would say a tragic

1744
01:38:15,700 --> 01:38:17,600
flaw. 
So as long as nothing happens in

1745
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,600
those last five episodes, Pete. 
Yep, you're absolutely correct. 

1746
01:38:20,600 --> 01:38:24,200
I hope so, especially since 
Isles likes it so much. 

1747
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:25,700
There's no way. 
Nothing has something happens. 

1748
01:38:25,700 --> 01:38:28,100
Yeah. 
I definitely hate things with 

1749
01:38:28,100 --> 01:38:30,900
twists and stuff only ever 
proper endings. 

1750
01:38:30,900 --> 01:38:34,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, so just to keep us moving 

1751
01:38:34,600 --> 01:38:37,100
because we are approaching 
almost two hours of talking. 

1752
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:39,700
We're doing really well. 
We're getting there though. 

1753
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,100
For me, I had for my second 
tragedy. 

1754
01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:47,200
White Album to where I know 
Pete's gonna laugh. 

1755
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:51,800
But, but, yeah, it's it is 
tragic used to these three 

1756
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:53,300
characters. 
The love triangle that forms 

1757
01:38:53,300 --> 01:38:56,100
between them. 
None of them want to admit 

1758
01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:58,900
what's going on or their flaws, 
their mistakes. 

1759
01:38:58,900 --> 01:39:02,000
Their, their, their emotions to 
each Other and then it 

1760
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:04,600
eventually just continues to 
boil up until eventually, it 

1761
01:39:04,600 --> 01:39:07,700
just explodes in the last couple
scenes of the show. 

1762
01:39:08,900 --> 01:39:12,200
And then of course, it happens 
throughout the extent. 

1763
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:16,400
The the shows only a prequel to 
The or prologue to the entire 

1764
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:23,300
story of continued mistakes and 
Poor decisions or whatever you 

1765
01:39:23,308 --> 01:39:26,600
want to say in their lives. 
And yeah, I think it's tragic. 

1766
01:39:28,600 --> 01:39:30,900
Pete thinks it's want to hear my
thoughts on white elbow. 

1767
01:39:30,900 --> 01:39:32,700
Go look up. 
Our secret say that episode. 

1768
01:39:32,700 --> 01:39:36,200
I, yeah, I was pretty drunk. 
And I what about 25 minutes 

1769
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:37,700
about that show. 
Yeah. 

1770
01:39:37,700 --> 01:39:41,400
About how much he hated it. 
I felt pretty much broke my 

1771
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:42,800
heart because I thought it was a
thing. 

1772
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,700
It's like one of my favorites of
that genre at least. 

1773
01:39:47,300 --> 01:39:51,400
Yeah, so that's why I'm from to 
check it out. 

1774
01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:52,700
Out. 
Can't wait till miles, does 

1775
01:39:52,700 --> 01:39:57,500
eventually to fix our one? 
Gotta bring the time, the 

1776
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:58,300
rubber? 
Exactly. 

1777
01:39:58,900 --> 01:40:00,400
But yeah, so Miles, what's your 
last track? 

1778
01:40:00,600 --> 01:40:03,100
Well, I what is the yeah. 
Sure. 

1779
01:40:03,100 --> 01:40:06,400
So my life's tragedy is, of 
course, Neon Genesis Evangelion 

1780
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,100
horse. 
Yeah, so I'm looking 

1781
01:40:09,100 --> 01:40:14,100
specifically at Oscars character
here and the Ark are I guess 

1782
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:16,500
like, tier 2 protagonist goes 
through. 

1783
01:40:18,100 --> 01:40:23,700
So Oscar is a very prideful. 
Then she needs to be the best 

1784
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:30,700
she meets Shinji. 
She does not respect because she

1785
01:40:30,700 --> 01:40:34,200
thinks he's weak and timid and 
she doesn't think those are 

1786
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,100
admirable traits, but Shinji 
just keeps on being better than 

1787
01:40:37,100 --> 01:40:41,500
her as being a, if a pilot, 
which makes her doubt herself, 

1788
01:40:41,600 --> 01:40:46,800
which makes her spiral into a 
horrible like self-destructive 

1789
01:40:48,300 --> 01:40:51,100
thing. 
And at the end of all of it, we 

1790
01:40:51,500 --> 01:40:56,300
her in a bathtub and broken-down
Shack. 

1791
01:40:56,300 --> 01:41:00,100
Just emaciated and she's in a 
coma for like most of the 

1792
01:41:00,108 --> 01:41:05,300
movies. 
So her own pride and stuff led 

1793
01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:08,800
her to her to her like ultimate 
downfall. 

1794
01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:14,400
So that's Oscar. 
And why she's tragic person fair

1795
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:15,700
enough. 
All right, people about you. 

1796
01:41:16,000 --> 01:41:19,000
Mine isn't Hunter Hunter. 
It's during the Chimera ant car.

1797
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:21,200
And that is the Through The Eyes
of My Room. 

1798
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,000
Who? 
Is Born the ant king and through

1799
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,200
his entire series? 
He learns that he is the most 

1800
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,700
powerful person essentially, in 
the world, in his eyes. 

1801
01:41:29,700 --> 01:41:32,000
He kills what? 
Anything he wants to get his own

1802
01:41:33,200 --> 01:41:36,500
kingdom, essentially? 
And then he finds a person who 

1803
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:39,700
is better than him at 
essentially, shogi and is, he's 

1804
01:41:39,700 --> 01:41:42,400
just absolutely fascinated that 
somebody is better than him at 

1805
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:45,900
one thing kind of the opposite 
of Griffith and it's tragic 

1806
01:41:45,900 --> 01:41:49,800
because then he learns like what
humanity is that? 

1807
01:41:49,800 --> 01:41:53,600
He's not who he thinks he is. 
Just he was born on a pedestal. 

1808
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:56,300
So he thinks that he is the 
best. 

1809
01:41:56,300 --> 01:41:59,700
That's what everybody has told 
him through his existence and 

1810
01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:04,800
then him losing his in shogi is 
his like wake up call and it's 

1811
01:42:04,800 --> 01:42:08,800
tragic because like as he learns
this as he falls in love with 

1812
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:12,300
this person and find out like 
what love is, it's too late. 

1813
01:42:12,300 --> 01:42:15,800
He's dying. 
He's unable to like, undo the 

1814
01:42:15,800 --> 01:42:18,800
wrongs that he did because I 
believe at the end that he did 

1815
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:22,400
feel bad for what he did, it 
just that, The environment that 

1816
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:26,800
he grew up in and it was too 
late to find out that there was 

1817
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:30,200
more out there than just him 
being this god-king essentially.

1818
01:42:32,000 --> 01:42:34,200
Interesting, I can't speak for 
on John Trick is. 

1819
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,100
I haven't seen yet. 
But uh, yeah, the best childhood

1820
01:42:37,100 --> 01:42:38,200
ever made. 
It's so good. 

1821
01:42:39,200 --> 01:42:43,300
Cool. 
So for me real quick tragedy, I 

1822
01:42:43,300 --> 01:42:45,500
guess I kind of cheated in this 
because I'm not she is a main 

1823
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:48,500
character. 
I did elephant lead and I think 

1824
01:42:48,500 --> 01:42:51,200
that that's if it's tragedy 
really well, where this cat 

1825
01:42:51,900 --> 01:42:57,300
character in Lucy is put in a 
very unwinnable situation. 

1826
01:42:57,300 --> 01:43:03,900
And she also then has these just
flaws in the way that she 

1827
01:43:03,900 --> 01:43:07,400
perceives the world and that 
will leads to her eventual 

1828
01:43:07,400 --> 01:43:10,700
device in the anime. 
So, Um, yeah, I think that's 

1829
01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:13,800
cheating a little bit because 
she's not the primary main 

1830
01:43:13,800 --> 01:43:18,800
protagonist, you know, like the 
guy is but maybe you could say 

1831
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,300
he's tragic to, I don't know. 
I don't have don't have the 

1832
01:43:21,300 --> 01:43:22,700
brain power to do that. 
Right now though. 

1833
01:43:23,500 --> 01:43:26,300
My special shout-out for tragedy
would be akadama drive because 

1834
01:43:26,300 --> 01:43:29,900
it tries to do the thing where 
each person has a hubris has has

1835
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:32,600
their their mortal sin or 
whatever you want to say that 

1836
01:43:32,600 --> 01:43:35,700
the their thing that leads to 
their death. 

1837
01:43:35,700 --> 01:43:37,200
The main characters are the main
cast. 

1838
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:42,000
At least like hoodlum and 
Everybody but ya know still fuck

1839
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:45,200
that shows ending so show, 
something it's nine in the 

1840
01:43:45,200 --> 01:43:47,900
ending isn't tragic even though 
it should have been, so there 

1841
01:43:47,900 --> 01:43:52,100
you go. 
We'll leave it at that rebirth. 

1842
01:43:52,100 --> 01:43:54,600
Our final category. 
So we let's make this quick 

1843
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:57,700
because again, we're going. 
So we're doing a lot of good 

1844
01:43:57,700 --> 01:43:59,500
talking, but we are also talking
a lot. 

1845
01:43:59,500 --> 01:44:03,800
So, yeah, longest episode ever, 
probably Secrets thing is like 

1846
01:44:03,800 --> 01:44:07,100
two and a half hours. 
Oh, well, so much for two and a 

1847
01:44:07,108 --> 01:44:10,600
half hours. 
Like 2 hours and 45 minutes. 

1848
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:12,000
That's true. 
All right. 

1849
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:14,500
Yeah, but what's your first 
rebirth miles? 

1850
01:44:14,700 --> 01:44:17,300
Yeah, here's a really easy one. 
I picked re0. 

1851
01:44:17,700 --> 01:44:26,500
Um, so Subaru has gets like 
reborn in another world and he 

1852
01:44:26,500 --> 01:44:31,700
is forced to You know, adapt to 
it. 

1853
01:44:31,700 --> 01:44:34,200
Learn how to be a better person.
It changes who he is. 

1854
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,900
He can't be the shut-in otaku 
anymore. 

1855
01:44:38,000 --> 01:44:42,300
And so he has to adapt into this
new situation. 30. 

1856
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,000
Yeah. 
I did RI 0 as well. 

1857
01:44:45,100 --> 01:44:48,000
Don't have much to sales of a. 
I was just like yeah, he does 

1858
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,500
really like go through because 
he's not I didn't want to just 

1859
01:44:50,500 --> 01:44:55,000
do eat Sakai, but he actually 
does go through like a 

1860
01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:56,700
significant rebirth and 
character. 

1861
01:44:56,700 --> 01:44:59,300
So that's what I thought he was.
He was a good fit people about 

1862
01:44:59,300 --> 01:45:00,200
you. 
I was thinking How do you 

1863
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:03,300
reserve idealists a character? 
I think much better than him, 

1864
01:45:03,300 --> 01:45:04,900
but kind of like the similar 
level. 

1865
01:45:04,900 --> 01:45:08,700
I did Hachi man from Oregon who 
I felt like throughout the 

1866
01:45:08,700 --> 01:45:12,900
entire series that you see, like
these events where he is, like 

1867
01:45:12,900 --> 01:45:14,700
an art. 
He is like a genuinely good 

1868
01:45:14,700 --> 01:45:18,100
person, but like, through the 
events he comes through, like, 

1869
01:45:18,200 --> 01:45:20,600
understanding that it's okay to 
like want more. 

1870
01:45:20,800 --> 01:45:23,500
It's okay that he doesn't have 
to be this person that like, he 

1871
01:45:23,500 --> 01:45:25,800
thinks he has to be. 
And I think just through the 

1872
01:45:25,808 --> 01:45:28,100
entire series that we see like 
this completely. 

1873
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:29,700
I personally think it's the best
character. 

1874
01:45:29,800 --> 01:45:33,200
Element anime just Hachi mod 
from episode 12. 

1875
01:45:33,200 --> 01:45:35,500
The ending just becoming a 
completely different person for 

1876
01:45:35,500 --> 01:45:39,800
the better. 
Yeah, I can definitely agree 

1877
01:45:39,800 --> 01:45:42,000
with that. 
Um, I thought about police work,

1878
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,600
I run the list to but then I was
like, yeah, more comedy, you 

1879
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:50,100
know, because it is a rom-com. 
Yeah, I guess I'm like, really 

1880
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,400
focusing on Hachi mon himself. 
Yes, himself specifically. 

1881
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:54,600
For sure. 
If it's miles. 

1882
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:56,300
What's your number two? 
Sure. 

1883
01:45:57,200 --> 01:46:00,900
Hey, Marco, if you're listening,
stop listening, I'm about to 

1884
01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:02,600
spoil the fuck out of here 
Karachi. 

1885
01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:04,300
I'm gonna give you like 20 
seconds. 

1886
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,800
That was 20 seconds. 
That was 20 seconds. 

1887
01:46:08,800 --> 01:46:12,700
Yeah, this is very important. 
So, the main character of 

1888
01:46:12,700 --> 01:46:18,600
Higurashi is Reka fourroux day. 
She much like Subaru has the 

1889
01:46:18,600 --> 01:46:21,600
ability to loop back in time 
after she gets murdered. 

1890
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:29,800
And there is a moment 
specifically where she realizes 

1891
01:46:29,800 --> 01:46:33,300
that it's possible for her to 
change what is happening and 

1892
01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:35,900
that she can get through to 
people. 

1893
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:41,800
And that allows her to like get 
out of this issue. 

1894
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:46,600
So for the first like 900 years 
or whatever, as she's looping, 

1895
01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,600
she doesn't think that she can 
like change anything. 

1896
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:50,700
She thinks the rules of like the
life. 

1897
01:46:50,700 --> 01:46:55,100
She's leading are set. 
But after an event happens, 

1898
01:46:55,100 --> 01:47:01,900
she's able to sort of Have faith
learn how to be more proactive 

1899
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:06,400
and not just accept the tragedy 
that has befallen her, but as 

1900
01:47:06,400 --> 01:47:10,700
she is reborn, literally, this 
time able to actively work 

1901
01:47:10,700 --> 01:47:15,900
towards. 
You know, finding a way out of 

1902
01:47:16,000 --> 01:47:23,800
the problem. 
She said, so, I knew we wouldn't

1903
01:47:23,800 --> 01:47:27,800
be able to get through an 
episode about miles for you. 

1904
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,900
Hey, but if you got wishes, I 
got berserk miles has Hague. 

1905
01:47:31,900 --> 01:47:35,000
We all have our thing. 
Oh, well, no, that's not an AI. 

1906
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:36,000
Definitely not knock it. 
All. 

1907
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:37,700
I was just wondering where they 
were when they were going to 

1908
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:40,500
come in. 
I was originally gonna do the 

1909
01:47:40,500 --> 01:47:43,000
Ava thing with Higurashi, but 
then I didn't want Marco to have

1910
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,900
to skip the entire episode. 
Yeah, surprise. 

1911
01:47:46,900 --> 01:47:47,900
That we gotten this far without 
you. 

1912
01:47:51,700 --> 01:47:54,100
Keep this short and sweet. 
Have you guys heard of a show 

1913
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:56,900
called? 
Neon Genesis Evangelion? 

1914
01:47:57,900 --> 01:47:58,700
No. 
Okay. 

1915
01:47:58,700 --> 01:48:01,100
Well there's this great one. 
So it's on Netflix. 

1916
01:48:01,100 --> 01:48:02,400
Watch it. 
Dubbed. 

1917
01:48:03,200 --> 01:48:06,500
Don't watch the rebuild movies. 
But yeah, I mean, just a short 

1918
01:48:06,500 --> 01:48:08,700
sweet. 
It's Neon Genesis like a lot of 

1919
01:48:08,700 --> 01:48:10,700
that only Shinji, but I think 
some of the other characters 

1920
01:48:10,700 --> 01:48:14,100
have like, rebuild, like aspects
throughout the show and I think 

1921
01:48:14,100 --> 01:48:15,700
it's just like a great example 
of it. 

1922
01:48:17,000 --> 01:48:19,600
That's fair. 
Yeah, that probably don't have 

1923
01:48:19,608 --> 01:48:22,700
to get to nitty-gritty with it 
as we already have so far and 

1924
01:48:22,700 --> 01:48:24,700
I'm sure Mi will say it's his 
third choice idea. 

1925
01:48:24,700 --> 01:48:29,000
It's their choice to exactly. 
Um, number two, for me was real 

1926
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:31,900
life. 
I think that that another re and

1927
01:48:31,900 --> 01:48:33,900
its name. 
But yeah, real life. 

1928
01:48:33,900 --> 01:48:36,500
I think does the without being 
an Izakaya. 

1929
01:48:36,500 --> 01:48:38,800
It does like the rebirth, the 
guy gets to go back to high 

1930
01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:44,100
school and try and like redeem 
himself or become a functioning 

1931
01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:46,300
member of society, which, of 
course, we find out later on the

1932
01:48:46,300 --> 01:48:48,700
show. 
You didn't really fuck up. 

1933
01:48:48,700 --> 01:48:51,600
It's not like he's a bum for 
because of his own fault. 

1934
01:48:51,600 --> 01:48:55,500
He, you know, he stood up for 
one of his sin Pi or yeah, 

1935
01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:59,500
Senpai older persons. 
And then got fired because of 

1936
01:48:59,500 --> 01:49:01,800
it, you know, like out of spite 
or whatever. 

1937
01:49:03,100 --> 01:49:06,500
But it does also show that he 
grows as a person and shows 

1938
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:08,900
growth of not only him but then 
other characters in the show as 

1939
01:49:08,900 --> 01:49:11,200
well. 
So I put that for rebirth 

1940
01:49:11,600 --> 01:49:14,000
because he does get reborn as a 
younger version of himself. 

1941
01:49:14,200 --> 01:49:16,400
But yeah, so mi. 
What about it Evangelion to give

1942
01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:18,200
us more Details God. 
Yeah, sure. 

1943
01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,600
So I'm specifically talking 
about instrumentality in this 

1944
01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:26,100
case. 
So when you haven't seen end of 

1945
01:49:26,100 --> 01:49:28,300
Ava, anyway, some things happen.
Okay? 

1946
01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:32,300
Yeah, so when they all go into 
the Tang, you know, there are a 

1947
01:49:32,300 --> 01:49:37,300
lot of tag is super good. 
Shinji is able to see the 

1948
01:49:37,300 --> 01:49:40,900
thoughts of everyone understand 
all of their own personal 

1949
01:49:41,300 --> 01:49:43,300
problems. 
And that's just like shared with

1950
01:49:43,300 --> 01:49:47,100
everything to Jesus. 
Then able to realize that, Life 

1951
01:49:47,100 --> 01:49:48,600
is worth trying and is 
beautiful. 

1952
01:49:48,600 --> 01:49:52,000
And he's a that's how he's able 
to like make that final decision

1953
01:49:52,300 --> 01:49:57,500
at End of Evangelion to, you 
know, end that it Code. 

1954
01:49:57,500 --> 01:49:59,300
Geass is sort of like, the Code 
Geass thing. 

1955
01:49:59,300 --> 01:50:02,800
It's because copious is just 
exactly and Evangelion. 

1956
01:50:04,100 --> 01:50:07,400
And so that's what happened. 
So, during that whole second 

1957
01:50:07,400 --> 01:50:09,700
half of individual Evangelion, 
where it feels like you're 

1958
01:50:09,700 --> 01:50:14,300
tripping on mushrooms, that is 
Shinji going through the whole 

1959
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:19,100
rebirth moment. 
All right, very well, but I did 

1960
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:21,200
really well not hearing any of 
that. 

1961
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:23,500
I'm very proud of myself. 
Like I had I like squeeze by 

1962
01:50:23,500 --> 01:50:26,100
headphones the other more than 
more than make sure I didn't 

1963
01:50:26,500 --> 01:50:28,000
have that spot for me. 
Pete. 

1964
01:50:28,000 --> 01:50:29,600
What's your final one? 
Well, last but not least. 

1965
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:32,400
I wanted to pick a show where I 
actually think that rebirth was 

1966
01:50:32,400 --> 01:50:37,500
the focal point of the entire 
like main cast in the event is 

1967
01:50:37,500 --> 01:50:39,700
through running. 
I went with run with the wind. 

1968
01:50:39,700 --> 01:50:43,700
It's just like an incredible 
story of these college kids 

1969
01:50:43,900 --> 01:50:49,500
through different like, Ability 
is social standards us how they 

1970
01:50:49,500 --> 01:50:51,300
hollow cool. 
They are in college and stuff 

1971
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:55,600
like that and coming together 
and really like building each 

1972
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:58,000
other up being a cross-country 
team. 

1973
01:50:58,000 --> 01:51:02,400
It's incredible story of just 
like Brotherhood camaraderie and

1974
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:06,100
just changing your life, through
an event of the word. 

1975
01:51:06,100 --> 01:51:08,000
You maybe would never experience
it. 

1976
01:51:08,000 --> 01:51:10,800
If you didn't try something new 
and I think run with the wind is

1977
01:51:10,808 --> 01:51:12,900
a great example. 
I think that is too. 

1978
01:51:12,900 --> 01:51:15,200
That's actually really well 
really good one. 

1979
01:51:15,700 --> 01:51:17,400
So, First I'll do my honorary 
mention. 

1980
01:51:17,400 --> 01:51:21,100
I threw in Fruits Basket into 
rebirth because I felt that it's

1981
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:24,400
kind of like a coming of age for
every single one of them million

1982
01:51:24,400 --> 01:51:27,900
per size, OD acts and also a 
rebirth of Tohru. 

1983
01:51:27,900 --> 01:51:32,100
As a person, pre mom death and 
post mom death essentially. 

1984
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:35,100
And yes, that's why I put free 
to ask me in there. 

1985
01:51:35,100 --> 01:51:42,200
But my favorite v-berth story so
much so that I thought like when

1986
01:51:42,200 --> 01:51:44,300
I was first doing this, I 
thought one of the seven plots 

1987
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:47,500
wasn't rebirth, but I thought 
that it was Path to Redemption 

1988
01:51:47,800 --> 01:51:54,100
and that is Rooney Kenshin. 
My favorite historical shown in 

1989
01:51:54,100 --> 01:51:55,500
sign in whatever you want to 
call it. 

1990
01:51:55,900 --> 01:52:00,700
Basically Kenshin is formerly an
assassin and a manslayer thought

1991
01:52:00,700 --> 01:52:05,400
to have killed hundreds. 
And essentially, he something 

1992
01:52:05,400 --> 01:52:08,500
tragic happens in his backstory,
or in his life. 

1993
01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:12,000
And then he goes on a quest for 
Redemption. 

1994
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,600
He becomes a Rooney, a person 
who travels and How does a vow 

1995
01:52:16,600 --> 01:52:19,200
not to kill anyone? 
And it's about his Redemption 

1996
01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,800
from his past and him coming to 
terms with his past and growing 

1997
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:28,500
as a person and becoming the 
wonderful human that he ends up 

1998
01:52:28,500 --> 01:52:32,500
in as by the end of the story. 
So that just wanted to flex my 

1999
01:52:32,500 --> 01:52:36,000
manga collection to finally have
the 28th volume and so many more

2000
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:39,500
stacking up back there. 
But, yeah, so that's my final 

2001
01:52:39,500 --> 01:52:41,500
rebirth. 
So, yeah, guys, we did it. 

2002
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We went fucking two hours or so 
of talking but I think it was 

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good. 
Good content, very good. 

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So yeah, if anyone has any 
comments, any things that they 

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want to say and he shows that 
you like glaring shows that you 

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think we really missed that 
like, truly epitomize. 

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These these topics. 
Please come talk to us in our 

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Discord about it. 
We can't wait to discuss things 

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further. 
I'm sure some of the cast that 

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wasn't here tonight will have 
their own ideas throughout there

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as well. 
But yeah, thank you guys so much

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for listening and Pete. 
Watch you just do the last. 

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impressions of the currently 
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So look forward to that content 
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If you're a Minnesota in two 
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Yeah. 
I mean, we do prizes. 

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So, come check me out there if 
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Otherwise, thank you so much for
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and we'll see you next time.