1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,000 Thank you for downloading this episode of our podcast. 2 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:17,500 Hi and welcome to the podcast for Solomon staircase. 3 00:00:17,500 --> 00:00:21,300 Masonic lodge, number 357, where we talk about all things related 4 00:00:21,300 --> 00:00:24,100 with Freemasonry including hermetic teachings. 5 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:28,000 Philosophy reason spirituality and much more we're located in 6 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,400 Buena Park. Southern California, tuned in as 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,200 we continue to update our podcast with informative talks 8 00:00:33,300 --> 00:00:35,300 and articles for Mason's worldwide. 9 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:45,800 And those who would like to inquire within So before I start 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:49,100 this next article, I'm going to ask a question and obviously 11 00:00:49,100 --> 00:00:51,400 this isn't a question and answer session because I can't hear 12 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,100 your answers. But you can always write back to 13 00:00:53,100 --> 00:00:55,600 me in the comments or as an email. 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,900 So my question to you is what are your thoughts about how fast 15 00:01:00,900 --> 00:01:03,000 somebody should progress through the degrees? 16 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,100 Do you think a month between degrees is enough? 17 00:01:08,300 --> 00:01:11,900 Is it not enough? Is it once a year? 18 00:01:12,500 --> 00:01:15,900 You know, what is Jurisdiction. Say I know I was lived in Texas 19 00:01:15,900 --> 00:01:18,800 for a brief period And I remember there was something 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,800 there along the lines of if you didn't get your master Mason 21 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:25,100 degree within whatever, two years three years something like 22 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:27,100 that. You basically had to start over 23 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:30,600 in California, where I'm formally from. 24 00:01:31,500 --> 00:01:34,800 We've had people who have been entered apprentices for gosh, 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,800 who knows, 10, 15 years, 20 years, never got beyond that and 26 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:40,600 that's fine. We have people who are fellow 27 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,500 crafts for many years. So, anyways, I'm just kind of 28 00:01:43,508 --> 00:01:45,800 curious. And then we also have the one 29 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,600 day classes where people move through, you know, all three 30 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:52,900 degrees of within a day, I done a podcast in the pack, talking 31 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:57,900 about some of the pros and cons of that, but anyways, just kind 32 00:01:57,900 --> 00:01:59,700 of curious. So I would still love to get 33 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:02,900 some feedback from people. So I'm not just doing this for 34 00:02:02,900 --> 00:02:05,700 here to hear my own voice, but I'm hoping you guys are enjoying 35 00:02:05,700 --> 00:02:08,300 the podcast. And again, if you get a chance, 36 00:02:08,300 --> 00:02:10,300 you know drop me a line via email. 37 00:02:10,699 --> 00:02:15,200 I think it's on the podcast. Framework there or I think you 38 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:16,500 can do it through comments as well. 39 00:02:17,100 --> 00:02:21,400 So with that, this is going to be a short episode and this is 40 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,400 an article called. Are we there yet from the June 41 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,000 2001? Scottish Pride Journal, 42 00:02:26,100 --> 00:02:30,100 Freemasonry written by Neil T Beatty 32nd degree. 43 00:02:30,100 --> 00:02:35,300 Sometimes slower is better. Sometimes, the journey has 44 00:02:35,300 --> 00:02:37,600 through the degrees is more important than the destination. 45 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,600 The modern world is a very hurried Place. 46 00:02:42,100 --> 00:02:45,400 Email cellular telephones, fast food and pay at the pump, gas 47 00:02:45,400 --> 00:02:47,000 stations have all become the norm. 48 00:02:47,900 --> 00:02:50,700 Almost every new convenience is about saving a little bit more 49 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:53,100 time. Living life in the fast lane 50 00:02:53,100 --> 00:02:56,500 isn't just common. It's required for those of us 51 00:02:56,500 --> 00:02:59,300 who grew up with airplanes fax machines and computers in our 52 00:02:59,300 --> 00:03:01,600 lives. This all seems like the natural 53 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,100 progression of the world faster is better. 54 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,900 The fastest rat wins the race. With all of the time we are 55 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:10,200 saving it seems. There would be more hours left 56 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:12,700 over at the end of the day, but it never seems to work out that 57 00:03:12,700 --> 00:03:14,800 way there. Just isn't enough time. 58 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:18,600 For Freemasonry, I hear great trepidation, in the Masonic 59 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Community about how hard it seems to be to get young people 60 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:25,200 to become involved with masonry. The old saw goes something like 61 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,500 this young men just don't have the time to go through the 62 00:03:28,500 --> 00:03:30,600 degrees. Much less, the posting an 63 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,100 examination sessions, they don't have time to get involved with 64 00:03:34,100 --> 00:03:36,400 three unions, and attend the requisite practices. 65 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:39,500 If we could just make the process, go a little Faster. 66 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,100 Make the postings a little easier to make the schedules a 67 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:44,600 little more flexible. Maybe we would get some more 68 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,800 members, surely they can spare the time, then if we 69 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:50,800 communicated more of the degrees had fewer practices and made the 70 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,400 lecture shorter, maybe we could get more people involved the old 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,900 guys. Just don't understand because 72 00:03:55,900 --> 00:03:58,300 they're retired and don't have as many other obligations in 73 00:03:58,300 --> 00:04:00,700 their lives. We need to bring Freemasonry 74 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:04,500 into the 21st century. Phooey. 75 00:04:04,900 --> 00:04:08,300 We need to bring the 21st century and masonry the degree 76 00:04:08,300 --> 00:04:11,900 is like life are a journey. Each degree stands on its own 77 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:15,300 and carries its own particular lesson, but the progression 78 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:17,500 through the degrees comes with lessons as well. 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,899 It was always expected that they be completed in a series. 80 00:04:21,100 --> 00:04:23,700 The degrees are not intended to be a show, Strictly for the 81 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:27,600 benefit of the spectators. They do not form a 32 AirPlay. 82 00:04:28,100 --> 00:04:30,900 They are performed for the benefit of all the participants. 83 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:34,800 Everyone from the Anna dates to the directors as a beneficiary. 84 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:37,900 As long as he participates there are important lessons to be 85 00:04:37,900 --> 00:04:40,900 gained by attending to reunions and watching the degrees, but 86 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:43,500 they don't really sink in until you start participating. 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,800 This takes time and the Brethren who come to the reunions, grab 88 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,000 the credential and move on, are missing the whole point. 89 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,700 The express version is just not the same. 90 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:56,300 The gold may very well be to be able to get to where your 32nd 91 00:04:56,300 --> 00:04:59,100 degree ring or to get the membership numbers up just a 92 00:04:59,108 --> 00:05:01,800 little bit more. But the substance for everyone 93 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,000 is gained during The journey we're making good men, better 94 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:08,200 one step at a time, and no, we're not there yet. 95 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,600 Four-speed. Junkies like myself, this is 96 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,200 difficult to swallow. It goes directly against the 97 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,300 pace of the rest of life, and yes, it does interfere with 98 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:21,300 one's normal routine. Most modern lessons are fast, a 99 00:05:21,300 --> 00:05:24,200 new computer language is only useful for a few years, or even 100 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,000 months before it becomes obsolete. 101 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,800 It's important to learn it quickly, credentials are 102 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,000 cumulative and they turn into money college degrees. 103 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,700 Licenses and certificates are thing to collect and the faster 104 00:05:35,700 --> 00:05:38,700 you get on with the next one, the better people with two, Or 105 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:41,400 more academic degrees make more money than the people who only 106 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,100 have one, no matter that they didn't actually learn anything 107 00:05:44,100 --> 00:05:48,500 in the process, masonry is different masonry move, slowly 108 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:51,500 the credentials, although numerous have no commercial 109 00:05:51,500 --> 00:05:54,300 value at all. Those old guys, the ones who 110 00:05:54,300 --> 00:05:57,000 work nights to put us through college, understand something 111 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:58,600 that some of us seem to be missing. 112 00:05:59,100 --> 00:06:02,700 Sometimes slower is better. Sometimes, the journey is more 113 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:07,100 important than the destination. To the 90% of you, who went 114 00:06:07,100 --> 00:06:09,200 through the degrees at a reunions, and never came back. 115 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:12,600 Again, I have a simple message, you're not done, yet, the 116 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:14,700 certificate cap and ring are not the end. 117 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:19,100 Not by a long shot, even if it's been years, it's not too late. 118 00:06:19,300 --> 00:06:22,000 The Supreme Council, just issued the revised standard pipe 119 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,700 degrees and now is your chance to get involved. 120 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Every degree has been Rewritten. No longer is it a bunch of men 121 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,700 who have been doing the same parts for decades? 122 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:34,000 There's room for you. Every part in every degree was 123 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,700 examined and then I want every participant is starting from 124 00:06:37,700 --> 00:06:40,600 scratch. We're all upon the level and we 125 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,300 need you to join us. If you've been wondering what is 126 00:06:43,300 --> 00:06:46,400 going on in your consistory, now is the best time in years to 127 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,100 find out, come back. It's worth the time. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,800 So now obviously that article is written on the basis of the 129 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,300 Scottish Rite degrees. I am not Scottish Rite yet, 130 00:06:59,300 --> 00:07:02,400 maybe eventually or York Rite, or Shrine or anything. 131 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,100 I'm just a regular old blue Lodge kind of guy. 132 00:07:06,700 --> 00:07:09,200 But for me, that question is still valid as to what's the 133 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:12,700 proper speed of the best speed to go through the degrees. 134 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:19,800 So I joined I believe in June about three months later, got my 135 00:07:20,700 --> 00:07:23,900 second degree, so I was initiated in either June or July 136 00:07:23,900 --> 00:07:26,900 about three months later. I got my second degree and then 137 00:07:26,900 --> 00:07:29,700 was raised a Master Mason in December the day after my 138 00:07:29,700 --> 00:07:35,300 birthday. So six months for me and I had a 139 00:07:35,300 --> 00:07:42,300 coach who Ooh, Danny cacioppo I mean we would do me and actually 140 00:07:42,300 --> 00:07:45,400 my buddy at the time we both joined at the same time we would 141 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,300 go over to his house you know once a week and we would do a 142 00:07:48,300 --> 00:07:52,500 practice on our proficiencies nowadays. 143 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:57,000 It seems like I mean, gosh, we've got guys that are taking, 144 00:07:57,100 --> 00:08:00,400 you know, six months to a year sometimes to get from one degree 145 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,500 to another and then we have other guys you know other lodges 146 00:08:04,500 --> 00:08:08,000 I've been to where I've heard of guys getting you know at one 147 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,400 degree a month and within three months, I've got all three 148 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,100 degrees. So, you know, I don't think 149 00:08:13,100 --> 00:08:16,500 there's any right or wrong way. It's just a matter of opinion 150 00:08:16,500 --> 00:08:18,900 and maybe even what your jurisdiction requires. 151 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,200 So I'd love to hear some comments. 152 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,700 I'd love to hear some feedback as to What goes on in your 153 00:08:25,700 --> 00:08:29,000 jurisdiction. So as I said, it's going to be a 154 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:31,400 short episode. I'm going to throw in one more 155 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:35,000 article, but with that have a wonderful day, evening night, 156 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,600 whatever it is for you. So the following article that 157 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,100 I'm going to read is from Texas and talks about Masonic, 158 00:08:42,100 --> 00:08:45,700 etiquette, etiquette and protocol in Texas, but things 159 00:08:45,700 --> 00:08:47,500 are different in different jurisdictions. 160 00:08:47,500 --> 00:08:51,500 So it'll be kind of interesting to compare the Texas version as 161 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:55,600 written versus the California, which I most most familiar with 162 00:08:55,700 --> 00:08:58,500 versus the Nevada. Where I've recently moved to 163 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:02,200 Masonic, etiquette, for the most part is merely good manners and 164 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:04,900 respect for your Lodge. Its members is forceful master, 165 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:06,900 and the convention of Freemasonry in general. 166 00:09:08,100 --> 00:09:10,300 One of the peculiarities of the Masonic fraternity. 167 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,100 Is that a man? Attends a large meeting or a 168 00:09:12,108 --> 00:09:14,800 masonic Gathering not as a private individual? 169 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:18,100 But as a Mason, he is therefore to be addressed by his surname 170 00:09:18,100 --> 00:09:20,800 that is brother Smith rather than brother Bill. 171 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:25,400 So that's kind of interesting now that's what they say in 172 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,600 Texas. Now California I would say it's 173 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:35,900 kind of a mixture brother. Hugo brother Ramos brother Ops 174 00:09:35,900 --> 00:09:38,800 Teague thinking about some of the guys in the lodge. 175 00:09:39,700 --> 00:09:44,400 I think in Nevada, as I recall, a lot of the guys just call each 176 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,400 other by their first name. There is no brother this, or 177 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,300 brother that it's just by the first name and nobody feels any 178 00:09:50,300 --> 00:09:54,700 different about it. At my Lodge, the other thing 179 00:09:54,700 --> 00:09:59,800 would be is we have a lot of Past Masters and for us when we 180 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,800 when we talk to people, it's typically were she or a 181 00:10:02,808 --> 00:10:06,200 worshipful and not even a name, just hate worse. 182 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:07,400 Why you doing worse? Well, good evening. 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,700 Were still nice to see a full. It's kind of like a Monty Python 184 00:10:09,700 --> 00:10:12,500 skit. That's the number to the Grand 185 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:15,500 Master is never to be addressed at any Masonic Gathering by his 186 00:10:15,500 --> 00:10:18,600 first name, no matter, how close an individual may feel toward 187 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,700 him. His proper address is most 188 00:10:20,700 --> 00:10:22,800 forceful. And when being formally received 189 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:26,100 in a lodge, he is a quarter to his full title, most worshipful, 190 00:10:26,100 --> 00:10:29,900 his full name Grand Master Masons in, whatever state and 191 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:32,800 I'd say that's pretty much the same in California, and Nevada, 192 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:34,800 although I have not been around the Grand Master in Nevada. 193 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:38,500 Yet three of the worshipful master must be shown the same 194 00:10:38,500 --> 00:10:41,000 respect and courtesy, we show The Grandmaster he should be 195 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,200 addressed at all times as worshipful, and I think that's 196 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:48,000 pretty consistent for prayers, that Lodge functions should be 197 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:49,700 in keeping with Masonic teachings. 198 00:10:50,500 --> 00:10:53,500 Five, when wishing to speak in Lodge a brother should rise and 199 00:10:53,500 --> 00:10:56,600 wait to be recognized by the master, then address the lodge 200 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,200 in the following manner, watchful Master, wardens, and 201 00:10:59,208 --> 00:11:02,200 Brethren, then begin to speak. All remarks should be directed 202 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,200 to the east. Now that's different in 203 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,600 California in California, you don't address the wardens and 204 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:11,500 Brethren, you get up, you sign for whatever degree you're in 205 00:11:11,900 --> 00:11:15,400 and then address worshipful master, and then talk ask 206 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,400 whatever you want to see, whatever you want to say in 207 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:22,600 Nevada. You don't necessarily sign. 208 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,500 I've seen a lot of guys just stand up and talk and not even 209 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:29,500 necessarily address the worshipful master. 210 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,400 I don't know if that's just because it's a little less 211 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,100 formal or if that's more ritualistic and talking with 212 00:11:36,100 --> 00:11:39,500 some of the guys there, it seems to be that in Nevada. 213 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:42,600 Every launch kind of has its own thing to do in Nevada. 214 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:46,900 Grand Lodge is very loose on letting people got to do their 215 00:11:46,900 --> 00:11:49,200 thing without getting too involved in. 216 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:53,500 What is Acquired, I've also been told that I'm going to the MIT 217 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:57,400 the Genoa lodged Douglas number 12, but I'm also being told that 218 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 if you go to Carson City Lodge, so, Carson City being the 219 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,900 capital that they are very strict on the ritual. 220 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,400 So I might have to do that some day, just to mix it up a little 221 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:08,900 bit. Number six, the about a secret 222 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:12,100 sacred and inviolable it. The ballot has legal sanction, 223 00:12:12,100 --> 00:12:15,200 and must be conducted according to Psalm rules, that's the same 224 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,300 everywhere, seven, a district. Deputy Grand Master on an 225 00:12:19,300 --> 00:12:20,800 official. Is it is the personal 226 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:22,500 representative of The Grandmaster. 227 00:12:22,900 --> 00:12:25,900 Now, in California, we don't have a district district, it 228 00:12:25,900 --> 00:12:30,900 Deputy Grandmaster? We have agl's, assisting Grand 229 00:12:30,900 --> 00:12:33,900 lecturers, and we have inspectors that are the 230 00:12:33,900 --> 00:12:37,800 representatives of the Grand Master and office has a station 231 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:40,900 or place of its own in the lodge with duties responsibilities and 232 00:12:40,900 --> 00:12:44,800 dignities inherent in it. A sloppy manner of addressing 233 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,600 the lodge and a failure to give proper respect to the officers, 234 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,600 reflects a lack of understanding of Massage. 235 00:12:49,700 --> 00:12:53,400 Protocol. If a master expects of every 236 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,500 member and of every other officer, a faithful rendering of 237 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:59,000 the form of etiquette, that is to be accorded to his office. 238 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,900 It will create a more faithful, observance of the format, every 239 00:13:01,900 --> 00:13:05,500 other station, or place 10. The examining committee is 240 00:13:05,500 --> 00:13:07,000 appointed by the worshipful master. 241 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:09,900 And usually, the senior Deacon is the chairman along with two 242 00:13:09,900 --> 00:13:13,500 other well-qualified Brethren. They must, keep in mind that 243 00:13:13,500 --> 00:13:17,000 their only purpose is to satisfy themselves that the visitor is 244 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,600 or is not a Master Mason in good standing. 245 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:22,600 My regular lights recognized by the Grand Lodge of Texas. 246 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,900 The Tyler's oath should be used as part of the examination. 247 00:13:26,500 --> 00:13:29,500 If the examining committee has the duty to satisfy itself, that 248 00:13:29,500 --> 00:13:31,600 a visitor is a Master Mason, in good standing. 249 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,300 In a regular Lodge. The visitor also has a right to 250 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:36,700 make sure that the launch she comes to visit is a regular 251 00:13:36,700 --> 00:13:39,300 Lodge. He may therefore ask to see its 252 00:13:39,300 --> 00:13:42,300 Charter Texas Mason's at the discretion of the worshipful, 253 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:45,500 master may be admitted without examination, if they produce a 254 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,700 current do scarred and photo identification as per article 255 00:13:48,700 --> 00:13:52,700 380. Number 11, a lodge member who 256 00:13:52,700 --> 00:13:55,200 has held the highest office in the lodge carries, the title of 257 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:59,700 past Master Past Masters, have a standing in Masonic law certain 258 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:01,300 Duties. Are there's for life, there are 259 00:14:01,308 --> 00:14:04,100 members of the Grand Lodge and have a vote in its processes. 260 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,900 They are entitled to a difference which belongs to 261 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:10,200 their position and protocol. They are entitled to a specific 262 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,900 order of lineal precedence on their own part. 263 00:14:12,900 --> 00:14:15,300 Past Masters are bound to the same rules of etiquette and 264 00:14:15,300 --> 00:14:16,700 respect that. It's observed toward the 265 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:21,000 worshipful master by all other members of The Lodge. 12, the 266 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,600 preparation room is a sanctuary for the candidate in the 267 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,300 officers preparing him. It is necessary that it be 268 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:30,800 closed in and that its privacy is strictly preserved, 13. 269 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,200 The etiquette governing, the conferral of degrees is strict 270 00:14:34,300 --> 00:14:37,400 there shall be no talking Whispering or laughing or any 271 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,100 disturbances during the degree work. 272 00:14:39,300 --> 00:14:42,600 It is not an occasion from Earth Brothers, on the sidelines, 273 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:45,000 should remain quiet and not offer any prompting or 274 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,800 assistance to the degree team. And I think, regardless of what 275 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,400 jurisdiction, you're In that, that's how it should be. 276 00:14:53,100 --> 00:14:56,600 I've been to enough degrees in my time where I've heard people 277 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:59,900 laughing and giggling and just things happening and comments 278 00:14:59,900 --> 00:15:03,500 made and stuff. And again it's you know 279 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:08,100 different lodges have different different cultures and my Lodge 280 00:15:08,100 --> 00:15:11,800 my home Lodge Solomon staircase, you know, we try to be very 281 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:16,500 solemn and very strict in our ritual because we love the 282 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:19,300 importance of what it stands for and what it means. 283 00:15:19,700 --> 00:15:22,200 But again I've Been to other lodges where that's not 284 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:26,500 necessarily the case. Number 14, the worshipful master 285 00:15:26,500 --> 00:15:28,900 is the officer whose first Duty it is to see that. 286 00:15:28,900 --> 00:15:32,100 Nothing is ever allowed to harm the lodge, which is entrusted to 287 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:35,700 his care for that reason. He cannot tolerate a careless 288 00:15:35,700 --> 00:15:38,600 practice of etiquette. If upon coming to the east, a 289 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,600 master finds an indifference to or a casual practice of 290 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,300 etiquette has crept into the lodge. 291 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,800 He should find an early opportunity to address the 292 00:15:45,800 --> 00:15:48,800 subject with his officers and members, the district Deputy 293 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,700 Grand Master May consult and advise concerning Allah just 294 00:15:51,700 --> 00:15:54,200 practice of etiquette but they cannot interfere. 295 00:15:54,700 --> 00:15:57,300 The worst full master has full responsibility for Lodge 296 00:15:57,300 --> 00:15:59,900 etiquette, as he has total charge of all things in the 297 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:03,900 lodge and 15. Although as Mason's, we believe 298 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:06,000 that it is the internal and not the external. 299 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:09,400 That makes a man of Mason there. Remains the issue of a tire that 300 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,800 is fitting of the occasion, based upon tradition and the use 301 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:15,700 of appropriate clothing is a way of showing respect, not only 302 00:16:15,700 --> 00:16:17,900 respect to the officers but to the craft. 303 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:21,600 And to the profane that observed us as we gather, as masons in 304 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,900 Texas, unlike other Grand jurisdictions, we Them wear 305 00:16:24,900 --> 00:16:29,000 formal attire to Lodge meetings but shorts flip-flops and bib. 306 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,900 Overalls are a far cry from the level of respect, that is due 307 00:16:31,900 --> 00:16:35,100 our fraternity, especially if we expect others to respect and 308 00:16:35,100 --> 00:16:38,400 admire us. So California, at least, at my 309 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:43,100 Lodge, what we typically do is for stated meetings in the 310 00:16:43,100 --> 00:16:47,100 colder times of the year, we wear tuxedos, and four degrees. 311 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:51,700 We were at exitos when it starts getting warm, we switch over to 312 00:16:51,700 --> 00:16:56,700 Hawaiian shirts and khakis. We're slacks as the case may be. 313 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,700 But same thing, no shorts, no flip-flops, no overalls at least 314 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:05,400 come in looking respectful. And so that article was provided 315 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,500 by past master, Chuck downard, from the Sunday, Masonic news, 316 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,300 May 13, 2012 edited by Harry Bruno. 317 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,500 The following article is from the September 2001, Scottish 318 00:17:23,500 --> 00:17:25,700 Rite Journal of Three Southern jurisdiction. 319 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:30,600 USA, it's written by Bruce Chabot 32nd degree and is titled 320 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:35,500 Masonic liturgy liturgies such as our Masonic ritual, have the 321 00:17:35,500 --> 00:17:38,000 purpose of uniting, and strengthening communities of 322 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,300 shared interest. Liturgy is a word that applies 323 00:17:41,300 --> 00:17:43,200 in slightly, different ways to two areas. 324 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,600 I love Freemasonry and religion. In fact, Masonic liturgy is a 325 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,200 part of the craft, which benefits Brothers sometimes even 326 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,000 without their knowing it, let me explain. 327 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,300 Of course, I do not mean to imply that Freemasonry, as a 328 00:17:57,300 --> 00:18:00,600 religion. We all know that it is not yet. 329 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:04,100 As a clergyman, I've often find myself explaining this fact, to 330 00:18:04,108 --> 00:18:07,500 people who think masonry is some sort of a denomination simply 331 00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:09,200 because it involves a religious elements. 332 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:11,600 True. We believe in God, respect the 333 00:18:11,608 --> 00:18:14,100 Bible and hold dear. What is represented by the 334 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,200 letter g in the middle of our square and Compass has? 335 00:18:16,700 --> 00:18:18,800 But that hardly makes Freemasonry own religion. 336 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,600 The term liturgy comes from an ancient Greek word, which 337 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,300 literally translated means the work. 338 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,200 Of the people. It is my experience that the 339 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,100 ways in which our beloved fraternity, uses liturgy are 340 00:18:30,100 --> 00:18:33,400 amazingly similar to the way. Liturgy is used in all Faith, 341 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:37,900 traditions in both liturgy expresses and teaches what we 342 00:18:37,900 --> 00:18:41,600 believe while also showing respect to our honored fellows, 343 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,400 the basis of my comparison is the fact that there is another 344 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,300 word ritual, whose meaning is very similar to liturgy and 345 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:52,500 ritual as all Mason's know, is the heart of the work of our 346 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:55,700 lodges and temples. I'll deep-rooted religious 347 00:18:55,700 --> 00:18:57,600 Faith. Traditions, use ritual or 348 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,600 liturgy to express and pass on to new members what they 349 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,900 believe. They State their Creed's, and 350 00:19:02,900 --> 00:19:05,800 use various clergy members and other functionaries to act out 351 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,800 or represent in symbolic and publicly meaningful form their 352 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,300 ideas. The interesting and wonderful 353 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:14,800 thing to me is that masonry does some very similar things as 354 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,300 Mason's. We have certain very specific 355 00:19:17,300 --> 00:19:20,400 words and actions that we say and do in performing the 356 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,600 ceremonies that open and close our meetings just as spiritual 357 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,400 leader, Say and do meaningful words and actions and conducting 358 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,800 worship and prayer services churches and lodges do these 359 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,400 things because that is how communities work in order to 360 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,200 strengthen. And grow Masons have a whole 361 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,500 body of special ceremonies. We use for our many degrees just 362 00:19:38,500 --> 00:19:41,900 as high churches, have liturgies for the seasons and ceremonial 363 00:19:41,900 --> 00:19:43,900 moments of importance in people's lives. 364 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:47,300 In both cases, they vary for special occasions, such as 365 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:49,900 initiated new members and celebrating feast days. 366 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:53,800 And in both cases, the secular Lodge and the religious Church 367 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:56,200 People Chosen and trained to perform. 368 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:59,200 These special Duties are particularly valued for their 369 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,800 ritualistic proficiency. Furthermore, both Masonic bodies 370 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,200 and Faith Traditions have committees charged with the 371 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,400 responsibility of studying, and authorizing official forms of 372 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,700 ritual or liturgy. This last point is, especially 373 00:20:12,700 --> 00:20:15,400 prominent now that we as Scottish, Rite Masons have the 374 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,500 revised standard Pike ritual. Those entrusted with researching 375 00:20:19,500 --> 00:20:22,400 and implementing these revisions have noticed that some members 376 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,700 tend to resist any kind of change in what is familiar even 377 00:20:25,700 --> 00:20:28,100 when that change is actually more of a return to the original 378 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:31,300 roots of the source matter. This reaction is common 379 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:33,600 religious. Scholars have always found it to 380 00:20:33,608 --> 00:20:36,300 be the case when the urge people to revise their ritual 381 00:20:36,300 --> 00:20:39,900 practices, in order to return to the more pristine ancient forms. 382 00:20:39,900 --> 00:20:42,900 Since these forms have been forgotten under layers of 383 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,300 improvisation. They seem strange and therefore, 384 00:20:45,300 --> 00:20:47,700 forbidding they are not the way we have always. 385 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:51,100 He's done it. Finally, in lodges Macy's and to 386 00:20:51,100 --> 00:20:55,000 use special actions and verbiage in referring to officers such as 387 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,400 Masters and wardens. And in ceremonially, receiving 388 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,900 honored guests such as Grandmasters and District, 389 00:21:00,900 --> 00:21:04,300 deputies. Similarly, some churches use 390 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:07,200 honorific titles for their leaders and clergy or ministers. 391 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Also some logic used ceremonial clothing. 392 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,400 When acting out certain rituals from basic aprons on up, not to 393 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,400 mention jewels and caps just as some types of houses of worship 394 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,200 use. Assessments and other liturgical 395 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,800 paraphernalia lodges even have certain required furniture set 396 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:26,700 up in specific ways and regular places for officers to sit, just 397 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:29,300 as religions arrange, their sanctuaries in certain ways that 398 00:21:29,300 --> 00:21:33,000 are meaningful to them. In some, my reason for bringing 399 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,400 up these many analogies is not to over emphasize any similarity 400 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,700 between these two Realms and Endeavors masonry and religion. 401 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:43,300 Rather the purpose of my comparison is to show that as 402 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:46,900 archaeologists and sociologists know groups that you night to 403 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:50,100 celebrate fellow Oh, Ship and share mutually beneficial ideas. 404 00:21:50,100 --> 00:21:52,700 Often tend to use means that are natural to communal 405 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:55,400 undertakings. These are often liturgical and 406 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,700 ritualistic. Since these means bind people 407 00:21:57,700 --> 00:22:01,400 together and fraternity, being one with the others is among the 408 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:03,500 most Basic Instincts of human beings. 409 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:06,900 We unite for preservation and for enjoyment. 410 00:22:07,100 --> 00:22:11,300 These means in Freemasonry and religion are ritualistic or 411 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,000 liturgical, they can be seen in other areas too, such as that 412 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,900 patriotic, observances, and even sports events, which have Their 413 00:22:17,900 --> 00:22:20,800 own liturgies and rituals as Mason's. 414 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,600 We can be proud of our heritage. We should without any sort of 415 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,200 showing us but with humility and good will extend the good name 416 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,700 and better understanding of our fraternity, through our the 417 00:22:30,700 --> 00:22:34,000 dignified, public representation of our rituals whenever 418 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,700 appropriate, including when we are in the religious Faith, 419 00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:40,300 communities of our choice. After all, we both may benefit 420 00:22:40,300 --> 00:22:43,300 from our mutual appreciation of ritual and liturgy. 421 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,100 The following article is from the April 2008, Southern 422 00:22:48,100 --> 00:22:51,500 California, research, large magazine hands off. 423 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:56,100 It's immemorial Brethren. Why do we make a lot of noise? 424 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,200 And then singing Auld Lang, Syne and New Year. 425 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Why do we follow etiquette, when eating? 426 00:23:00,900 --> 00:23:03,900 Why do we all stand when the national anthem is played, why 427 00:23:03,900 --> 00:23:07,000 do we greet a person with a handshake indeed brother? 428 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,700 Why do we do these and perform many other actions in our daily 429 00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:14,100 life? It is simply because They are 430 00:23:14,108 --> 00:23:17,300 part of life's daily ritual, which we all perform knowingly 431 00:23:17,300 --> 00:23:20,600 or unknowingly or more importantly, is it part of that 432 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,200 time immemorial which has been tried proven by our forebears? 433 00:23:25,500 --> 00:23:30,000 Dr. Don see Benjamin of Arizona, State University States rituals 434 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,000 are repeated patterns of meaningful human behavior. 435 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:36,600 There are structured ways of acting sometimes accompanied by 436 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:37,600 words. Sometimes. 437 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:41,000 Not rituals opened up new worlds, where our lives are 438 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:45,000 enlarged and enriched rituals. Take us to new places and they 439 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,000 relate us to new people. Rituals overcome isolation and 440 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,200 bond us to communities who will support us in becoming all we 441 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,100 were created to be and becoming what we want to be. 442 00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,000 This brief statement I believe more than amply explains 443 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,400 Freemasonry and it's ritual and thus the reason for this paper 444 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200 which was initially prompted by the recent and continued 445 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:08,100 outpourings within the fraternity both by written or 446 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:11,900 spoken word for a change to the ritual of Freemasonry based on 447 00:24:11,900 --> 00:24:16,200 two theories a it is Antiquated and not lying with modern 448 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,700 expression and opinion or be. It is the reason for the decline 449 00:24:19,700 --> 00:24:23,400 of membership within the craft, both of which I suspect are 450 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,700 based on one the periodical, but Lewis attacks on Freemasonry and 451 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:31,000 it's ritual by outside pressure groups with their own personal 452 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,900 and hidden agendas and to the personal outpourings by some 453 00:24:34,900 --> 00:24:37,400 members on their own knowledge and ability, or more likely, 454 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,800 lack of it, to conform to the ancient usages and customs of 455 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,200 the craft, which incidentally, they freely and voluntary, 456 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,300 offered themselves as a candidate for in the first 457 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:49,300 place. As to the two theories already 458 00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:51,400 stated, which are both interrelated. 459 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,200 I can give no better. An example that when the 460 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,500 mainstream churches decided to modernize the book of prayer to 461 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,800 enable younger people to participate and thereby reverse, 462 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,600 the decline in attendance, which the authorities believed was, 463 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,800 the result of some widespread and even occasional Universal 464 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,900 criticism. I'll ask this is not as we. 465 00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:14,300 Well now proved a successful as anticipated in fact and in the 466 00:25:14,300 --> 00:25:18,700 meantime the Bible holy book or vsl, call it what you A has 467 00:25:18,700 --> 00:25:20,900 continued to progress in its original James. 468 00:25:20,900 --> 00:25:24,700 The first form, particularly, by a big increase in annual sales, 469 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,400 we may well ask the question why, although I would suggest 470 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,700 that the human race is generally a creature of habit and do not 471 00:25:32,700 --> 00:25:37,300 accept change for the sake of change, As to my to suspicions, 472 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,600 firstly the attacks from without are based on narrow minded, 473 00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,800 thinkers and inborn jealousy by persons, or persons, and, or 474 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,300 their organizations of the principles, and tenets of The 475 00:25:47,300 --> 00:25:50,700 Craft, which they see is binding a true brother to his lodge. 476 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:54,300 In the fraternity, these attacks can be easily countered by 477 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,400 experienced persons and not necessarily by Freemasons. 478 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:02,400 For example, study, the history of and books by John J Robinson. 479 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:05,700 Who is extremely successful during his lifetime before For 480 00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,400 becoming a Freemason later in life. 481 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:10,900 Also, my other short paper, which follows is another good 482 00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:14,100 example of how to use defense in the best form of attack. 483 00:26:15,700 --> 00:26:18,700 Regarding my second suspicion, this lack of knowledge is 484 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:21,500 attributable to that Brothers Lodge who are responsible for 485 00:26:21,500 --> 00:26:23,300 establishing the direction or path. 486 00:26:23,300 --> 00:26:27,100 The individual brother may take not all members are able or 487 00:26:27,100 --> 00:26:31,200 willing to take the active path and Freemasonry, indeed some 488 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,100 brethren play. An important part by their 489 00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:35,900 regular attendance. Even if with passive or indirect 490 00:26:35,900 --> 00:26:38,700 involvement. In fact we have here this 491 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,900 evening Brethren who in my view are passive, particularly 492 00:26:41,900 --> 00:26:45,300 regarding research activities but proven Freemasons. 493 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,300 In the true sense of the word long, may they attend by their 494 00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:51,300 very attendance at any lodge meeting? 495 00:26:51,300 --> 00:26:53,200 They are active students of ritual. 496 00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:57,400 However, it is very important that new members are assistant 497 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:00,200 early in their Masonic life, with knowledge of the craft 498 00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:04,200 more, particularly its ritual, varied, and many, and the part 499 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600 is, should henceforth play in there. 500 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,500 Outside life. In fact, how many of you present 501 00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:11,000 this evening have read the research. 502 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,800 Lodge literary committees new article posted on the notice 503 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:17,400 board in the foyer in the crash. All that very young brother. 504 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,000 Hopkins is typical of what many others are saying. 505 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,300 And we should take notice of this before pulling the plug on 506 00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:26,100 an established ritual that has survived many generations of 507 00:27:26,100 --> 00:27:28,700 Freemasonry with little if any change at all. 508 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,500 I'm not the first brother to say this, you may recall our present 509 00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:36,400 Grandmaster most worshipful brother Barry mclaggen was the 510 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,400 guest speaker at the 2005 summer lecture here in Palmerston North 511 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:44,100 and in this Masonic Center speaking to his subject, the 512 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:47,100 creeping paralysis of mediocrity and our society. 513 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,400 And therefore, Freemasonry explained in passing that Grand 514 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,200 Lodge had in recent times, tried to remove the word Ritual from 515 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,600 our Masonic vocabulary. The reason it might offend some 516 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,900 people Common Sense prevailed. I also have with me this evening 517 00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:05,700 copies of other letters from Young Freemasons, all saying the 518 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:10,500 same thing hands off. It is in a memorial Thus 519 00:28:10,500 --> 00:28:13,500 Brethren from what I've already said ritual is nothing to do. 520 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:17,600 It is not to be ignored or brushed aside our very lives and 521 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,600 even those who are anti masonry are completely engulfed in it 522 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,900 whether they realize it or not. Finally why are these young new 523 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:28,100 Freemasons all saying the same thing hands off its immemorial 524 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,100 and we like it we ignore them at our peril. 525 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,200 So this was a research paper presented by Wars for brother. 526 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:40,300 Tim Brown past Master, Deputy Master to their ofu Lodge of 527 00:28:40,300 --> 00:28:42,900 research. Number 444, New Zealand in 528 00:28:42,900 --> 00:28:52,500 February 2008. Thank you for listening. 529 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,000 If you like what you heard, Please Subscribe and leave us a 530 00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,900 comment. We enjoy hearing from our 531 00:28:56,900 --> 00:28:58,600 listeners. 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