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Take a look. 
Behind the curtain, with a real 

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whistleblower, an American 
patriot, prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth because this
program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serafin. 
Hello my friends, Welcome to the

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Kyle Serafin Show. 
Today is Wednesday. 

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It's November the first. 
It is a new month. 

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We got a new deal here. 
We've got a conservative legend,

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Roger Stone. 
He's come on to get the Kyle 

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Serif and show treatment, to 
tell us who he is, what he's all

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about, what he's seen. 
I think you guys are going to be

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surprised. 
There's a lot of things I didn't

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know about Mr. Stone. 
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his, his story, his books, his 
experience at the hands of the 

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FBI, my former employer, who was
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Very interesting guy. 
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And there it is. 
OK, so are you guys ready? 

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Are you prepared for the the 
stylings and the story of Mr. 

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Don't Call Me Mr. Stone, Roger 
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We're looking forward to it. 
Here we go, folks. 

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Let's do this. 
And ladies and gentlemen, we are

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joined today by a Republican 
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He's going to come on and tell 
you because many of you know the

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name and you know almost nothing
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So, Mr. Stone, thank you so much
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you Mr. Stone. 
Is that appropriate? 

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No, Call me Roger, because I'm 
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I feel like it. 
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a term of respect, but but I can
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All right, I will. 
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Roger, will you tell us where 
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I think a lot of people have a 
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know nothing about the man and 
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you're sitting here wearing this
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So where did you grow up and 
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I'm originally from the New York
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I grew up in Connecticut in an 
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My parents were a blue collar 
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My father was a well, digger. 
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reporting for a. 
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community notes. 
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originally, but over time they 
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own activism, they became more 
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originally Nixon Democrats. 
I myself am a veteran of 13. 

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National Republican presidential
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And I admit to you at one time I
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the Beltway Washington insider 
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worked for Richard Nixon, who 
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greatest presidents. 
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Vietnam, ended the military 
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agrarian society in order to 
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the Russians. 
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Clintons would sell them 
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which is really what those two 
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they are today anyway. 
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Republican Party. 
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a man named Donald J Trump and 
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eventually figured out that the 
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right thing. 
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that is used to divide us, used 
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That doesn't mean that there 
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Republican Party. 
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There are some. 
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Senator Rand Paul is a Great 
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His father, Congressman Ron 
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constituted the. 
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Republican Party. 
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that. 
I'm also New York Times best 

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selling author. 
My book, The Man Who Killed 

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Kennedy. 
The Case Against LBJ makes the 

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compelling case that that there 
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F Kennedy that included Vice 
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man who had the most to gain. 
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the FBI, the Secret Service, 
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and so on. 
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accomplishment. 
I took that book to six 

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different publishers. 
Kyle and everyone of them told 

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me that it had no commercial 
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it. 
It's a New York Times best 

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selling book that, with any 
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grandson to college if it used 
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So, and I think I, you know, to 
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part of this, as I think most 
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Robert Mueller because of my 
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And they basically hooked up a 
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fabricated indictment indictment
claiming that I lied underoath 

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to Congress in my voluntary 
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Intelligence Committee. 
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collusion to lie about what 
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Well, you lied to cover up for 
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Cover up what? 
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As the Durham report finally 
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already knew there was no 
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What they really wanted to do 
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testifying falsely against 
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I refuse to do that. 
My wife and I went through 2 1/2

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The economic pressure. 
The personal pressure, the 

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stress. 
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I wasn't going to lie. 
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have a hard time finding this on
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not only recognized that I was a
target of political persecution,

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he not only committed my 
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full, unconditional presidential
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That last part is almost 
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It's it's been buried willfully.
So it's oh, you're a convicted 

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felon. 
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Martin Luther King was a 
convicted felon. 

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Jesus Christ was a convicted 
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It's a it's just, you know, it's
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calling is what it is. 
It's kind of incredible how, 

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first of all, your story arc is 
wild and I think many people are

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are hearing some of those things
and seeing all the bullet points

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that you just touched in history
and and they just go, Oh my God,

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you're you're an observer to so 
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But also you're exactly right. 
Like there's some pretty good 

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company that have been so-called
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And especially when it was about
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was at the Bureau and I was at 
the Quantico, that they were 

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teaching us, you know, that you 
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what's called 1001 charge or 
false statements. 

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It's like, and then there also 
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that you'd be a lot like, why 
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Right. 
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further back. 
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piqued my interest, you said I 
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confirmed member of the swamp. 
Can you talk about it, your 

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understanding of what that looks
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How are you part of it and what 
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Well, so after Ronald Reagan was
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outsider president prior to 
that, and he was not like, what?

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Like Donald Trump. 
He was not the choice of the 

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Washington Republican elite. 
He was not the choice of the 

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Rhinos. 
He was thought to be a too 

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extreme, too conservative, not 
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Turned out to be false. 
I was a partner at Black, 

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Manafort and Stone, which was 
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political consulting and public 
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The company did do lobbying, 
although I myself very did very 

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little, Almost no lobbying. 
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the Beltway firm then when the 
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From Reagan to Bush, this was 
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I never thought that the Bushes 
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I never thought they were 
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I was concerned to this day as I
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Family. 
Another Amazon bestseller. 

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I believe that that George Bush 
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were deeply involved in the 
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Ronald Reagan. 
So I became disaffected from the

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Washington insiders, many of 
whom I had worked with and many 

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of whom I had seen up close. 
And of course, I was vilified. 

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Because I started suggesting to 
Donald Trump that he run for 

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president as early as 1988. 
I want him to run in 1988. 

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I want him to run in 2000. 
I want him to run in 2012. 

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I finally, I was successful, 
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and running in 2016. 
And I think that that he is, not

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only was he already among our 
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he is potentially going to be 
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Again, there's only one man in 
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Cleveland, a New Yorker, A 
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who was elected president, then 
failed to be reelected in a 

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disputed election, then returned
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So it can be done. 
It has been done. 

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The question is only can it be 
done in time to save the country

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given the disastrous policies of
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I'm, I'm sort of embarrassed to 
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search, the circumstances around
Grover Cleveland and what was 

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happening at that time. 
What was that? 

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What was the backdrop in the 
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that contested and his, you 
know, on and off? 

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You had a huge fight over over 
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the dollar should be backed with
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It was a defining issue of the 
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Cleveland, who was very Who 
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of New York, been the mayor of 
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think, of Erie County, New York.
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but he was an outsider. 
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he was a Democrat. 
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is a historical precedent and 
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against time because the 
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these are not, you know, these 
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These are not, I'll conceived 
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misguided policies. 
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To destroy our country. 
To flood our country with the 

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illegals who bring with them 
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To continue to print money like 
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We seem more concerned with the 
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swiftly moving towards A2 front 
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We are on the cusp, in my 
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World War Three and this 
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So I really fear for the country
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concerned. 
About the weaponization of our 

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judicial system and our law 
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intelligence agencies. 
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who can stop Donald Trump from 
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If we have a free, fair, honest,
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win this election handsomely. 
They seek to destroy him through

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a series of prosecutions, both 
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That, I think, is unprecedented 
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I have been in that DC meat 
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I know exactly what this is 
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I predicted back in April that 
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Issue a gag order against Donald
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defending himself in public in 
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social media. 
The judge has now done that. 

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The fact that she stated pending
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view that she will ultimately 
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which I think is very 
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really dangerous for the First 
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There there's this concept, and 
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Saul Alinsky talking about Rules
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simply that they there's always 
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sort of radical and extreme, 
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back to a position that is less 
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And it feels like the the this 
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of done that with this hearing. 
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And if you want to reflect on 
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want to know about the inside, 
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transitions that I think are 
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people, but if you have thoughts
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First of all, the Trump's 
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stay. 
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attorney, but I believe the 
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hold a hearing and she'll do 
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But, but the the arguments that 
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not be infringed because he is a
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other reasons, has already been 
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suspect. 
That is, that he will be gagged.

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In my case, the judge issued A 
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The punitive reason for this was
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by then was my anemic social 
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Because I was banned for life on
Twitter, now known as XI, was 

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banned for life on Facebook. 
I was banned for life on 

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Instagram. 
I really had no forum to defend 

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myself, but the reason I had to 
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because I might taint the jury 
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myself. 
The problem with that is that in

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my case, the judge left the gag 
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convicted when I was awaiting 
sentencing. 

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And after I was sentenced, 
awaiting the date to be 

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incarcerated, So it's pretty 
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silence me, period. 
In other words, let's gag him 

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before we lynch him. 
That's kind of the way it works 

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in DC We did learn after the 
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my trial, the one who said 
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had no idea who I was if she was
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Had in fact been attacking me 
and President Trump on both 

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Twitter and Facebook, but kept 
those attacks on me in a private

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setting and then tried to 
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trial was over and I had been 
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Thanks to the journalist Mike 
Cernovich, we learned about that

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should have been, by all legal 
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minimum, a new trial, although a
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After I spent three and a half 
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raise penny by penny for, my 
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impossible to finance and 
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the jury pool in DC and the 
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would have had the exact same 
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I still should have been 
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here's what I learned in DC the 
rules, the evidence, the 

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The facts, reality, none of 

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these things matter. 
They just they don't matter. 

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Not not in the District of 
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Even today, after church, I take
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some bozo calling me a Russian 
spy and a Russian traitor. 

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The government produced no 
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that I was in touch with any 
Russians or the and the one 

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conversation I did have with 
Gustafer 2.0, who the 

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intelligence agencies insist is 
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Took place months after the 
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the alleged hacked information 
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So it's after the fact 
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to have colluded with him. 
By the way, the contents of our 

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28 word exchange on Twitter 
Direct Messages is completely 

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innocuous. 
As you put, you put it best, 

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there is no underlying crime. 
What was the underlying crime? 

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What what was the motive for me 
to lie? 

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I did make misstatements, but 
they're they're all completely 

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irrelevant. 
They're minor. 

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It was just an effort 
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to charge me so I could be 
pressured to turn on Trump. 

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That's because they found no 
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so they had to try to 
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Sure. 
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aware in the same way that 
they're seeing that the FBI uses

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sort of entrapment cases that 
are morally equivalent, if not 

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legally equivalent in the 
counterterrorism case. 

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They're doing the same thing, 
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are finding. 
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and some of the others were sort
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OK, I want to, I want to dig 
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You just said that there's 
basically no concept of 

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Constitution facts. 
They don't play by the law in 

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DC. 
How long do you think that's 

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been the case in the DC court 
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It is certainly been true since 
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I mean, you used to have. 
It's very hard to find a 

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Republican judge or or or a 
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I mean, for example, when I was 
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was unconstitutional. 
I still do. 

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So we found a writ of mandamus 
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Legal way to challenge it. 
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that for eight months. 
That's eight months in which I'm

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taking, you know, incoming from 
CNNMSNBC and the Washington 

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Post, all the dominant news 
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where I was going to go to 
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before my trial was to begin. 
The Circuit Court ruled that it 

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my motion, my rid of mandamus 
was not ripe for a decision 

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because I had not eight months 
previously asked the judge who 

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put the gag order on me to 
remove it, which of course she 

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would never have done anyway, so
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It's a perfect example. 
That's why I am not optimistic, 

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even though the judge in DC has,
I guess, scheduling hearings 

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over the current gag order. 
Donald Trump needs to be very, 

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very, very careful. 
They would like nothing better. 

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Then to charge him with 
violating A gag order as a 

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pretext to incarcerate him prior
to trial. 

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I know that fine people find 
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They should. 
It is. 

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It's reality. 
It makes perfect sense to me. 

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My friends and I have a very 
simple statement about this. 

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The process is the punishment. 
And you've experienced it. 

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I know we've experienced it, but
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experiencing it too. 
It's a weaponized process. 

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And so it doesn't matter if you 
go through the right steps. 

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There's always some technical, 
you know, violation that they're

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going to find and they're going 
to be able to get the outcome 

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they're looking for. 
I want to, I want to trigger 

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back to something you said 
earlier. 

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You talked about the transition 
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And I think that is a probably a
fascinating, a a a fascinating 

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look behind the curtain that 
many people do not have access 

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to. 
And you, you were in a unique 

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position to see. 
So can you talk about the the 

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sort of discussions, the the 
meetings maybe the letters or 

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the phone calls that were taking
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organization from 1 regime to 
the next and what those 

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decisions were made on and who 
made them and and when they 

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decided like this is the next 
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forward and how and why? 
Because a lot of that, that 

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insider baseball, nobody ever 
sees it, and maybe nobody ever 

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will if it's not talked about. 
And you know it's been written 

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about, but it's not accessible 
in a form where you know you, 

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you're a you're a first hand 
participant in some of that 

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stuff, I imagine. 
Well, the crucial decision, in 

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my opinion, goes back to the 
Republican National Convention 

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in I guess it would have been 
Detroit. 

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And it was at that juncture that
Ronald Reagan had decimated 

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George HW Bush. 
Now George HW Bush had lost two 

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races for the US Senate in 
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Had existed politically on the 
basis of a bunch of 

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appointments, first by a 
President Nixon, who had a 

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political debt of gratitude to 
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Prescott Bush, who was a partner
at Brown Brothers Harriman, and 

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also the US Senator from my 
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later Gerald Ford. 
George HW Bush became CIA 

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director under Gerald Ford only 
on the condition. 

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Mission that he signed an 
agreement that he would not be a

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candidate for president or vice 
president in 1976. 

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Bush senior always resented 
that, thought that, but that 

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Gerald Ford's chief of staff, 
Don Rumsfeld, later Secretary of

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Defense, had maneuvered to to 
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presidential sweepstakes and 
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succession. 
When the political directors for

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Ronald Reagan met and there were
ten of us to talk about who 

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should be vice president, there 
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supported the appointment of 
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Not one. 
Yet two nights later, Reagan had

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become persuaded by pollsters 
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needed suburban, moderate votes 
and that George Bush could help 

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him get those. 
And that is when I think the 

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fatal decision was made. 
That was when Ronald Reagan 

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essentially breathed life back 
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of George HW Bush. 
The chemistry between the 

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Reagans and the Bushes was never
good. 

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Reagan did not have much respect
for Bush because he had 

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vanquished him in the famous 
Nashua debate of 1980. 

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But if you want to pinpoint. 
The exact point in which those 

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who really had controlled the 
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assassination of John F Kennedy.
Strangely enough, although a 

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millionaire. 
Also your last, your previous 

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outsider president. 
Not the choice of the Washington

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Power establishment, although 
very popular in the media. 

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I would, I would tag it. 
To the rise of George HW Bush, 

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who spoke openly about the New 
World Order. 

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That's what we're experiencing 
right now. 

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This is the New World order that
he was speaking about. 

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As I said, I've written an 
entire book on this called The 

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Bush Crime Family. 
It's available at stonezone.com.

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You should check it out A 100% 
and and all this stuff is so 

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fascinating that you think 
about. 

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There was a time when the media 
and the so-called establishments

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were not the same thing. 
At some point they fused. 

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Do you know, do you have a sense
of when that happened, when they

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kind of got in line and got 
their marching orders issued 

456
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,640
from the same place? 
It's very hard to put your 

457
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,240
fingers about it, about it. 
They were always more 

458
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:55,840
establishment oriented than not.
But there were outliers and the 

459
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,440
media had a greater balance. 
So there were more conservative 

460
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040
media outlets. 
There were more liberal media 

461
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,600
outlets. 
Today, it'd be very hard put to 

462
00:27:07,120 --> 00:27:10,680
pinpoint a conservative order 
entered national newspaper. 

463
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:15,840
There are none that exist. 
But we also know, and has now 

464
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,120
been documented, that the 
Central Intelligence Agency 

465
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,480
invested. 
A lot of money and time into 

466
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,520
infiltrating and buying media 
assets under Operation 

467
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,720
Mockingbird. 
No, this is not a conspiracy 

468
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,480
theory. 
You know the guy. 

469
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:36,200
It's interesting. 
The guy who blurted this out was

470
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,880
Carl Bernstein. 
Woodward and Bernstein, of 

471
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,920
course, were the two celebrated 
Washington Post reporters who 

472
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,720
created the false narrative 
surrounding Watergate. 

473
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:50,240
But when? 
Bernstein began to believe that 

474
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:54,120
Woodward was going to cut him 
out of a lot of the profits from

475
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,400
the book All the President's 
Men, as well as the movie he 

476
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:05,120
published, a very important and 
I think Seminole piece in 

477
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:09,680
Rolling Stone magazine, which 
was as left wing then as it is 

478
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,200
today, outlying. 
Operation Mockingbird basically 

479
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,280
saying if you guys are going to 
cut me out of the money, well, 

480
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,120
I'm going to expose your entire 
phony deal. 

481
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,240
The point people need to 
understand today is that the 

482
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,280
people who are claiming to 
practice journalism at the 

483
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,720
Washington Post, at the New York
Times, at any of the three 

484
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,000
networks, particularly ABC. 
These people are all government 

485
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,880
paid for or government 
controlled assets. 

486
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,440
Every single bit of them. 
Ken Dilanian, for example, at at

487
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:54,480
NBC was fired by the Chicago 
Tribune for clearing his stories

488
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:58,760
with with Langley, with the CIA,
long time CIA operating even 

489
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,520
today. 
Now he would tell you what could

490
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,760
go wrong with that, Roger? 
What could? 

491
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,480
What could go wrong with just 
making sure the government's 

492
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,080
cool with your stories? 
Particularly, you're probably on

493
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,880
their payroll. 
Even try to convince you he's 

494
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,200
just an honest reporter. 
I have a very good friend who 

495
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:17,560
recently left NBC, had a very 
storied career as a journalist. 

496
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,160
And was an honest reporter. 
Literally had no biases. 

497
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,440
I think called him as he saw 
them. 

498
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,840
Took a job at NBC, didn't last 
six months. 

499
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,360
Came away saying this isn't this
isn't journalism. 

500
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,560
This isn't a news outlet. 
This is a propaganda front and 

501
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,720
that is really the case. 
So it's and of course they 

502
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:47,120
weaponize the the Internet, 
particularly Google. 

503
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,600
So sure, I'm very well known, 
but if you put my name into 

504
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Google in a news search or even 
a web search, the 1st 45 pages 

505
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:01,040
will be 100% negative and we'll 
give you a number of false 

506
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,080
impressions. 
Sorry, no one ever produced any 

507
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:08,080
evidence of Russian collusion or
WikiLeaks collaboration on my 

508
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,160
part. 
In fact, Kyle, it's more 

509
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:14,920
incredible than that on November
3rd, 2020, which is Election 

510
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Day, the busiest news day of the
year. 

511
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,000
Because a federal judge ordered 
it, the Department of Justice 

512
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:27,880
was forced to release the last 
remaining long redacted and 

513
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,720
hidden sections of Robert 
Mueller's final report, in which

514
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,680
he admitted that he found no 
evidence of Russian collusion or

515
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,480
WikiLeaks collaboration or any 
other crime on my part. 

516
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:46,080
And even if he had found. 
You know, conversation between 

517
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,920
me and them, which he did not. 
It would not necessarily have 

518
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:51,800
been illegal. 
You know where that was 

519
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,000
reported? 
Virtually nowhere. 

520
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,720
Zero Hedge covered it. 
The Gateway Pundit covered it. 

521
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,680
That's about it. 
So all those news outlets that 

522
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:05,360
continue to insist that Stone 
was convicted of being a Russian

523
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:10,520
spy, a traitor, which is 100% 
false, they have never repeated 

524
00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,320
that, Even Mueller's report. 
Contradicts that. 

525
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,520
It's galling, but it's part of 
life. 

526
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,640
No, it's it's hard to stomach a 
lot of those. 

527
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,040
And I've seen my friends smeared
and I've seen you smeared and 

528
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,560
and you know, I think a lot of 
people in my generation right 

529
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,200
now, I'm in my early 40s. 
We look at it and we assume that

530
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960
whatever the mainstream media is
saying, we sort of set our our 

531
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,680
clocks the opposite and assume 
that's probably the case, which 

532
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,120
is probably the safest bet right
now. 

533
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120
But being able to manipulate, 
being able to get, maybe not 

534
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,680
manipulate is the right word, 
but being able to help guide 

535
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,960
media narrative has always been 
part of political strategy. 

536
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,440
It's always been part of what's 
been going on. 

537
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,000
And I'll tell you kind of a 
quick story from my father, who 

538
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:49,200
grew up in the news business and
was at KCBS when Reagan was 

539
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,280
elected. 
He mentioned to me that Reagan 

540
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,760
would bring all of these once a 
week. 

541
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200
They would bring in a bunch of 
local reporters from all over 

542
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,480
the country to sit down and have
breakfast or dinner or lunch at 

543
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760
the White House and have access 
to the staff in a way that many 

544
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,480
people have never seen. 
And which was a brilliant move, 

545
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,720
by the way, because it built a 
lot of goodwill and it allowed 

546
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,680
him to bring his message direct.
Do you know who was involved in 

547
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,480
allowing and sort of doing that 
and then setting up that sort of

548
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,880
decision process? 
And then has it gotten 

549
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,520
weaponized from there that that 
sort of cozy relationship to to 

550
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,600
whatever we see right now? 
What was your father, Bury 

551
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,600
Serafin? 
No, his name is Charlie Serafin.

552
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,320
That's right. 
I misspoke. 

553
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,320
Pardon me. 
Got it. 

554
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Look, I think that that there 
was a lot more access back in 

555
00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,160
the in the 80s. 
I think everything was less 

556
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:40,600
controlled. 
More recently the press is 

557
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,360
monolithic and they're 
completely lockstep. 

558
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,040
There's a one decided narrative 
and if you disagree with that 

559
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,920
narrative you're you're 
censored. 

560
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:55,200
The irony here is there's the 
people who want to censor us in 

561
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,080
violation of the 1st Amendment. 
The people who want to deny us 

562
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,320
due process in violation of the 
4th Amendment. 

563
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,800
The people who want to 
mandatorily vaccinate us in 

564
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,240
violation of the 3rd Amendment. 
I believe it is the people who 

565
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,880
would like to cancel the Second 
Amendment. 

566
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,600
They say that we are a danger to
democracy. 

567
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,240
The people who are who are 
searching us without warrants. 

568
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,560
And as you know, there have been
thousands of those now 

569
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,960
determined. 
Those are the people who say 

570
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:31,120
that we, not they, but we are 
the danger to democracy. 

571
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,120
So it's you're right. 
It's right out of Alinsky's 

572
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,680
rules. 
It's exactly backwards as to 

573
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,480
what is really happening. 
When did the left start using 

574
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,320
the word democracy the way 
they're doing right now? 

575
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,560
Because we have a constitutional
Republic and all of us on the 

576
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:48,120
right that push back say that. 
But they it seems like every 

577
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,080
single person's got the exact 
same word in their mouth, and 

578
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,760
it's always a danger to our 
democracy, whether it be Biden 

579
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,520
or whether it be Pelosi or 
anybody else. 

580
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,960
They're just harping this 
democracy thing like we have a 

581
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
majority rules in this country, 
which we obviously don't. 

582
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:02,840
Well, it's part of their talking
points, just like people like us

583
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:06,320
are white supremacists, which of
course we're not, or that we're 

584
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,639
Christian nationalists. 
Although that was a little 

585
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:12,159
harder to break apart because 
yes, I am a Christian and yes, I

586
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:14,080
am a nationalist. 
If that means you're proud of 

587
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,280
your country and you and you 
support the Constitution. 

588
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:22,040
But name calling, Particularly 
name calling people who've been 

589
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,880
gagged. 
Or censored is really their 

590
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,400
their standard operating 
procedure at this point. 

591
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:30,360
No, it definitely seems that and
it's effective for the people 

592
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,400
that want to hear that message 
that don't want to go outside of

593
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,960
the the sort of approved 
channels for the narrative. 

594
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,159
You mentioned Gateway Pundit. 
You mentioned who was the other 

595
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,000
group that the Epoch Times has 
been doing. 

596
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,960
Some kind. 
Of times there's a handful of 

597
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,199
very good journalistic 
operations out there. 

598
00:34:46,199 --> 00:34:49,159
But the stone zone? 
Stone zone, Clearly. 

599
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,000
Stonezone.com One of the best. 
The point, of course, is that 

600
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,520
you just channeled a little 
Donald Trump right there. 

601
00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:59,480
I heard it. 
Yeah, just just just go go look 

602
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,600
for any of their stories in your
SCO search, in your, in your, in

603
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,880
your Google search. 
And they're, if they're there at

604
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,120
all, gateway pundits, not there 
at all. 

605
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,440
It's buried. 
So they they manipulate, you 

606
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,080
know, people's access to 
information even when it exists.

607
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,640
Yeah, maybe you can talk about 
kind of the rise of this 

608
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,400
alternative version of media and
sort of the importance I think 

609
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,560
that's that's facing our country
with it. 

610
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,280
It's why, for example, your 
podcast, I think is very, very 

611
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,560
important. 
I encourage people to not only 

612
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,240
watch it, but to tell other 
people about it so they watch 

613
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:36,240
it. 
The bottom line of it is, at 

614
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:40,000
least for the short term, no one
controls the Internet. 

615
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,640
There are large companies that 
control software that is in very

616
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,880
common use on the Internet, so 
it allows them to dominate the 

617
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,040
Internet. 
But until they begin taking away

618
00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:59,640
UR LS, which of course could 
happen, there are still beacons 

619
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,520
out there where you can learn 
the truth. 

620
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,840
We have talked about several of 
them and therefore it's 

621
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:09,360
important that people. 
And not only do what you and I 

622
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:16,560
do every day, which is to have a
Daily Show, I'd also do a WABC 

623
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:22,480
New York radio show every 
weekend at wabcradio.com from 

624
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:27,080
4:00 to 6:00 Eastern Time. 
It's important to have these 

625
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,000
these outlets that tell an 
alternative version of of of 

626
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,240
what's going on based on truth, 
based on facts. 

627
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,720
But they make it harder and 
harder. 

628
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,480
They also put severe economic 
pressure on you. 

629
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,320
So to this day, although I'm 
back on Twitter, now known as X,

630
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:53,080
and I'm there under Roger J. 
Stone Junior. 

631
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,640
And I'm glad to be there. 
I make no bones about it. 

632
00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,160
I'm still banned for life on 
Facebook. 

633
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:03,640
By the way, there is a Roger 
Stone on Facebook uses the bio 

634
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:07,320
that I have up at at X, uses my 
photo from X. 

635
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:10,800
But that is not me. 
I do not follow that person or 

636
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:15,000
persons because it is not me. 
Believe me, if I set up a 

637
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:18,720
profile on Facebook, it would be
taken down tomorrow. 

638
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,840
Not really sure what the purpose
of this fake. 

639
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,400
Profile is, but believe me, it 
is there. 

640
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,920
Same is also true of Instagram 
now. 

641
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:30,840
What's weird is they never tell 
you why you're banned. 

642
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:35,080
Just one day you just disappear.
You're just unavailable. 

643
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,480
They. 
Don't even notify you. 

644
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,800
And of course, my first instinct
was to try to sue them. 

645
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,240
And then I learned they're 
essentially unsuable because 

646
00:37:43,240 --> 00:37:46,440
they're a private company. 
And now, as you know, there's a 

647
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,520
case going to the Supreme Court 
as to whether the government can

648
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,640
be actively involved in 
pressuring or urging the social 

649
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,680
media giants to suppress 
information. 

650
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Suppressing information is 
that's dangerous to our 

651
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Republic. 
The point is, they want to crack

652
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,520
down on disinformation or 
misinformation, but that 

653
00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:12,920
presumes that they're the 
they're the arbiters of what is 

654
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
misinformation or 
disinformation, which is of 

655
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:20,120
course not true. 
For example, just to give you 

656
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,080
one perfect example, the 
Ukrainians are kicking the 

657
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,160
daylights out of the Russians in
that war. 

658
00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:28,200
No military expert I know, no 
general. 

659
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:32,240
Nobody in the military, retired 
or or active, tells me that that

660
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:34,520
is the case. 
But that's the prevailing 

661
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,160
narrative and if you want to go 
on any place on media and say 

662
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,400
otherwise, well, you're going to
be censored. 

663
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,280
Yeah, yeah, of course you are. 
And and I agree, I have friends 

664
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,200
who are also in been frontline 
there and said that it's awful. 

665
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,880
It's atrocious. 
So that's kind of sad too. 

666
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:51,920
I want to I want to dig into 
something. 

667
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,920
It's not really conspiracy, but 
I think it actually is. 

668
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,000
The things that people think are
in a very conspiratorial tone. 

669
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640
We talk about things like the 
deep state, which I like to call

670
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,480
the administrative state. 
I think it's a little less sexy 

671
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:02,640
and I think it's a little more 
accurate. 

672
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,560
But I'm curious about your 
experience with it. 

673
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,000
You've obviously been a victim 
of government agency 

674
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,760
weaponization, and I think 
that's pretty well documented. 

675
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,160
If people want to go and find 
their own information and dig 

676
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,160
into it, tell me about what you 
see as maybe the rise of the 

677
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,720
deep state, how it how it came 
about, and and the way that it's

678
00:39:17,720 --> 00:39:20,560
actually implemented from your 
perspective on a political 

679
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:23,880
operative as a strategist. 
Well, I think President Dwight 

680
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,880
Eisenhower was the first one to 
warn us this was coming. 

681
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,320
He called it the military 
industrial complex. 

682
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,520
It is basically the 
consolidation of power between 

683
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:40,520
both parties, of the politicians
in Washington, the think tanks, 

684
00:39:41,240 --> 00:39:47,600
the defense contractors, and all
of those who have an interest in

685
00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:52,840
both control and money. 
It dominates both parties. 

686
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:55,520
Took me a long time to see that.
I mean, I'm a former. 

687
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:57,760
The young Republican National 
chairman. 

688
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:02,400
I have a abiding, sentimental 
attachment to the old Republican

689
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,160
Party of, you know, Abraham 
Lincoln and Dwight Eisenhower, 

690
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,800
Barry Goldwater, Ronald Reagan, 
who I work for in 3 presidential

691
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,760
campaigns, Senator Bob Dole, a 
great veteran, Great American 

692
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,880
and of course, Donald Trump. 
So it took me a while to figure 

693
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:23,040
out that there's really one 
party in Washington that's the 

694
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,080
Yuna party. 
And they control everything, 

695
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,560
including their allies in the 
media. 

696
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,840
Now whether they control the 
media, whether the media 

697
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,040
controls them, we could argue 
about that all day. 

698
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,720
But there is there is one ruling
elite. 

699
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:43,040
And the perfect example of their
power, of course, would be the 

700
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:51,080
entire COVID-19 pandemic 
situation and how it unfolded. 

701
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,080
Will people fall in line again 
for a second pandemic? 

702
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,240
Remains to be seen. 
They don't seem to make many 

703
00:40:59,240 --> 00:41:02,680
bones about the fact that they 
are planning one or that one is 

704
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:06,720
about to affect us. 
So it is. 

705
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:11,000
It's not a conspiracy theory to 
believe that they're all in it 

706
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,120
together. 
That's because they are. 

707
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,200
That's why there is one 
narrative. 

708
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:20,040
But it's also important to note 
that Donald Trump constitutes an

709
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,000
existential threat to these 
people. 

710
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Why? 
He is completely and totally 

711
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,960
uncontrollable. 
He's his own man. 

712
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:32,760
He sees everything through the 
through the prism of America 

713
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:33,720
First. 
Is it? 

714
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,200
Is it in America's best 
interest? 

715
00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:38,480
Does it put American interests 
1st? 

716
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:44,440
And he has risen to a level of 
popularity in the country based 

717
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:48,240
on his America First populism 
that makes him extraordinarily 

718
00:41:48,240 --> 00:41:50,680
dangerous. 
They know that they have to hit 

719
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:54,040
him off before the next election
because if he wins the next 

720
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,280
election, he's going to clean 
house. 

721
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,760
He's going to return to a 
government that is committed to 

722
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,600
America, first principles and 
the Constitution of the United 

723
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640
States. 
And that is why they are moving 

724
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,440
heaven and earth to destroy him 
even as we speak. 

725
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,600
I heard you say power and 
control, which I think are 

726
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,360
probably related or maybe the 
same thing you said Donald Trump

727
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,960
being uncontrollable and you 
also mentioned money with the 

728
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,600
military industrial complex, the
deep state. 

729
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,680
Is it that simple? 
Is it just about power and money

730
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:23,560
and control? 
It? 

731
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:24,560
Really. 
It really is. 

732
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,280
You know, those people say, 
well, is it, is it ideological? 

733
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,680
It is ideological in the sense 
that it is antithetical to 

734
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,720
freedom. 
But you know, it is. 

735
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,360
It is left and right. 
So the neocons, those who pursue

736
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:45,520
endless foreign war, those who 
have squandered both our money 

737
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:49,160
and our treasure abroad? 
No, no party. 

738
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,960
They're in both parties. 
But really what they're about is

739
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:56,440
money and control. 
Control of the people and vast 

740
00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:01,120
profits. 
The contract to to vaccinate 

741
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:07,000
members of the US military was a
$9 billion contract. 

742
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,840
Perhaps that's what COVID-19 was
all about. 

743
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,920
I think a lot of people think 
that money was certainly the 

744
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:14,680
root for that. 
We saw a bunch of billionaires 

745
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,600
come out out of nowhere. 
We saw a bunch of local 

746
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,440
businesses crush. 
So that would make a lot of 

747
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,560
sense to me. 
I'm kind of curious. 

748
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,080
We're talking about a uniparty. 
We're talking about a swamp. 

749
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,960
We're talking about sort of a 
politically entrenched ideology.

750
00:43:27,080 --> 00:43:30,880
When you start getting down 
those those topic lines, a lot 

751
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,880
of people in America that have 
started to get more and more 

752
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,360
fringe because they don't have 
any of the the tethers of 

753
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:36,640
institutions to believe in 
anymore. 

754
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,800
They they're all delegitimized. 
They start going to places like 

755
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,360
Illuminati, a secret societies, 
families. 

756
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,160
There's always been legends and 
rule about that. 

757
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:45,520
Can you speak about any of 
those? 

758
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,480
Did you ever see that when you 
were running around in DC as as 

759
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,520
kind of a member of the 
establishment that this was what

760
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,560
was controlling things? 
I I actually never did. 

761
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,360
Because you see, I think it 
exists. 

762
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,400
I think these institutions 
exist. 

763
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:02,760
I don't think it is as formal as
some of our friends think it is.

764
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,080
So no, it's not like all the 
billionaire sit around a big 

765
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,080
Oval table and decide what to do
together. 

766
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:11,720
They have their own internal 
rivalries. 

767
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,320
The Rothschilds and the 
Rockefellers fought over money 

768
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,640
and control themselves. 
So I don't think it is. 

769
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,440
It is one tightly controlled 
conspiracy, so much as it is a 

770
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:28,720
confluence of power in the hands
of people who think uniformly 

771
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,560
and therefore you have 
essentially the same result. 

772
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,160
But I don't think the Illuminati
gives out membership cards, for 

773
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,400
example. 
I really appreciate that answer 

774
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,880
because it's the same thing that
I saw in government agencies. 

775
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,720
You don't need to be told to act
the way that Steve Baker did. 

776
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,520
For example, when he was was a 
Steve Baker, Jim Baker who was 

777
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,720
over at the DOJ and then at FBI 
and then went over to Twitter, 

778
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,560
he just act in accordance 
because he was always a DOJ guy.

779
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,840
Of course he was going to act, 
you know, and help out DOJ. 

780
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,040
He didn't need to have that that
secret memo pushed over to him 

781
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:02,320
and uses decoder ring. 
So I guess the question is this,

782
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,120
I've got a microphone, you've 
got a microphone, you got a 

783
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:06,240
radio show, you got books out 
people can you know, you're out 

784
00:45:06,240 --> 00:45:08,480
there actively trying to inform 
people and sharing that. 

785
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:12,640
What is the average Joe in this 
country who's looking around 

786
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,280
saying this is not the America I
grew up in? 

787
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:15,840
This is not what I want to see 
happening. 

788
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:21,400
How do they make tangible 
movement towards a freedom and 

789
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,120
make sure that we actually have 
an election in 2024, which I've 

790
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,920
got friends saying it may not 
even happen that way? 

791
00:45:26,120 --> 00:45:28,200
And how do they, how do they 
move the needle on an individual

792
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:29,760
basis so we can all kind of 
collectively? 

793
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:33,280
Maybe get back to some sanity. 
Well, first and foremost, people

794
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,320
need to not give up. 
They do not. 

795
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:38,280
They need to not look at the 
situation, say this is hopeless.

796
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Things are so controlled there 
is no hope for America. 

797
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,240
Secondarily, the role of prayer 
in my own life, which I've 

798
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:50,960
talked pretty openly about and 
which I'm mocked relentlessly 

799
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,600
about on the Internet because 
I've declared my redemption in 

800
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,960
Jesus Christ. 
I don't really care what those 

801
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,760
people think. 
I really only care what what he 

802
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,480
thinks. 
That is an important part of 

803
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:04,320
this. 
But people need to stay 

804
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:06,680
involved. 
They need to be involved in 

805
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:08,240
politics. 
They need to go out and be 

806
00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:10,440
involved in the local school 
board. 

807
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,360
They need to be involved and the
local county Commission. 

808
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:17,360
They need to not give up on 
America and they need to stay 

809
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:20,320
informed. 
Beyond that, we have to see how 

810
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:25,440
things unfold. 
It's amazing that with the 

811
00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,800
tsunami of law fair against 
Donald Trump and the absolute 

812
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:36,840
vituperation and attacks on him 
on a daily basis, he continues 

813
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,240
to lead Joe Biden both 
nationally and in all of the 

814
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:46,200
swing states, not to mention 
having a double digit lead for 

815
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,680
the Republican nomination. 
So that is a testimony to the 

816
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,760
fact that people aren't stupid 
and they realize that we're 

817
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,240
headed towards $10 a gallon gas,
that there's a 76% increase in 

818
00:46:59,240 --> 00:47:03,360
the cost of groceries, that 
we're experiencing crippling 

819
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:09,840
inflation, that the average 
income continues to plummet, and

820
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,320
that we are more concerned with 
the borders in Ukraine then we 

821
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,000
are with sealing our own 
borders. 

822
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:20,840
We are majority. 
We should not lose sight of 

823
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,000
that. 
People need to stay involved, 

824
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,560
they need to continue to pray 
and they need to continue to be 

825
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,240
active. 
Whatever you do, do not check 

826
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:34,280
out, do not decide, oh, this is 
all untenable, this is all, this

827
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,800
is all impossible. 
What would have happened if 

828
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:43,000
George Washington's ragtag army 
has said that at Valley Forge? 

829
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:50,360
The idea that that that that 
that army of misfits could take 

830
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:55,120
on the finest, most precise 
military machine on the face of 

831
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,400
the Earth, the British Army in 
seven in 1776? 

832
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:04,240
That's unthinkable. 
Perhaps it requires some divine 

833
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,840
intervention. 
But it did happen, and it gave 

834
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,560
us the greatest country on 
Earth. 

835
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,160
A country that is worth standing
for. 

836
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,200
A country that is worth 
fighting. 

837
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,520
And I don't mean physically 
fighting, because that's the 

838
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:19,120
first thing they said. 
And then lastly, and this, I 

839
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:23,120
think is key, and you can speak 
to this, people need to be not 

840
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,000
goaded into senseless or stupid 
acts for which you can be 

841
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,280
charged. 
They would like nothing better 

842
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:37,040
than to blame us for acts of 
violence or acts of lawlessness.

843
00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:43,080
And people need to make their 
protests civil, legal and 

844
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,520
orderly. 
I think that is absolutely key. 

845
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,440
Discernment is one of those 
pieces that a lot that kind of 

846
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:51,800
leads you to these proper 
actions. 

847
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:52,960
You talked about your prayer 
life. 

848
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,520
Could you kind of give us a 
taste of what you what you pray 

849
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:56,640
for at night when you close your
eyes? 

850
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Well, look, I prayed that the 
President would recognize that I

851
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,600
was being politically persecuted
and the Lord answered my prayers

852
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:09,520
in terms of both the commutation
of my sentence before I was to 

853
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:14,480
be put in prison for four years.
The government wanted to put me 

854
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,440
away for seven to nine years. 
They wanted to give me extra 

855
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,760
time because I dare question the
validity of the Russian 

856
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,200
collusion hoax. 
About that. 

857
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:32,080
I also, in all honesty, my wife 
was stricken with stage 4 cancer

858
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:35,880
shortly after I was pardoned, 
which I think was brought on by 

859
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:40,360
the stress of the attack on me 
and our family and the fact that

860
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:45,040
we lost everything. 
Our home, our savings of my car,

861
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,160
my freedom to travel, my freedom
to speak openly. 

862
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,240
It's a it's a tremendously 
stressful situation. 

863
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:58,040
You are familiar with it. 
I prayed for her survival and 

864
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,760
indeed thanks to the healing 
power of Jesus Christ, she is 

865
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:08,120
now 2 1/2 years, almost the less
a cancer free I I pray for 

866
00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:13,520
guidance because I do think I 
have some role to play in events

867
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:16,400
going forward. 
I think my life was spared for a

868
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,360
specific purpose, but here's 
what I found out Kyle. 

869
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,240
God doesn't reveal his entire 
plan to you all at once. 

870
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,080
He reveals his plan to you when 
he is ready. 

871
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,000
And I'm ready to do his well, 
whatever that turns out to be. 

872
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,600
I pray for the safety of my 
family because I think with this

873
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:38,240
many illegals in the country, it
is only a matter of time before 

874
00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:42,080
there is an attack on American 
citizens in our own soil. 

875
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,520
Something I'm very concerned 
about and I pray about quite a 

876
00:50:45,520 --> 00:50:47,680
bit. 
Here's some examples I. 

877
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,120
Appreciate those you tell us 
about some of the moments of 

878
00:50:50,120 --> 00:50:52,360
doubt, too. 
When you're going through these 

879
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,720
and you witness your government 
coming after you, after you felt

880
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:56,880
like you've been serving it for 
as many years as you've been 

881
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,240
involved, Well, I will certainly
went through that. 

882
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:01,400
I reached a point. 
I mean, I was naive enough to 

883
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,320
think that when I was charged in
this completely, you know, 

884
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:09,280
fabricated indictment of lying 
to Congress about matters that 

885
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,680
did not matter, that that 
concealed no underlying crime, 

886
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,600
most certainly not any Russian 
collusion or any collaboration 

887
00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,400
with WikiLeaks, none of which 
the government produced any 

888
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,720
actual evidence of. 
I became despondent. 

889
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,880
I became depressed. 
I became angry. 

890
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,760
I became frustrated. 
I became fearful. 

891
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,520
Not so much for me, for me, but 
for my wife. 

892
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,800
I still have to struggle 
financially every month because 

893
00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,920
it's hard to sell your books 
when you're banned on Facebook, 

894
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:42,280
when you're banned on Instagram,
when you're banned in most 

895
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:46,520
places, people can follow me on 
true social where I'm real. 

896
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,200
Roger Stone. 
It would be nice to be Roger J. 

897
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,840
Stone Junior, both there and on 
X. 

898
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,800
But some squatter has my real 
name on a true social, so I'm 

899
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,800
not allowed to have it, not able
to have it, but people can 

900
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,640
follow me in those two places. 
The economic pressure they put 

901
00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:05,680
on you to this day is 
extraordinary. 

902
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:11,000
I got a subpoena from Hunter 
Biden's lawyers a week ago. 

903
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:14,240
They want all my records 
pertaining to Hunter Biden's 

904
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:18,160
laptop, which would be 0 records
whatsoever. 

905
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,640
Everything I know about Hunter 
Biden's laptop I read in the New

906
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:23,840
York Post. 
But you see, we have to create 

907
00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:28,800
this fake narrative that that 
somebody gave me the contents of

908
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:32,560
the laptop and I passed it on to
somebody else, and that person 

909
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,760
passed it on to Rudy Giuliani 
and he's passed it on to the New

910
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,240
York Post. 
It's total BS. 

911
00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,800
It's false. 
But I still have to go retain a 

912
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:48,640
lawyer who practices in Delaware
to move to quash this subpoena. 

913
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:54,360
It's just a time consuming, 
financially draining, stressful.

914
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,920
But that's the way it is. 
I mean, I have 11 outstanding 

915
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:02,480
other lawsuits filed against me,
all of them meritless, all of 

916
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:04,400
them baseless, all of them 
groundless. 

917
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,600
This is what they call law fair.
It's what they're doing to 

918
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,960
Donald Trump, but on a much 
larger and I think more 

919
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,160
dangerous basis. 
If you knew the kind of troubles

920
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,160
that you were going to go 
through starting back in 1988 

921
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,080
when you started recommending to
Donald Trump to run, would you? 

922
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:22,440
Would you continue on the same 
path if you knew then what you 

923
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:25,560
know now? 
That's a very difficult 

924
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:27,560
question. 
I think the answer is yes. 

925
00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,520
You know, I think I was saved 
for such a time as this. 

926
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:36,600
I think I have a a role to play.
I'm grateful for my freedom. 

927
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,800
I'm grateful for my wife's 
health. 

928
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,760
It would be, you know, I could 
be very successful inside the 

929
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:48,000
Beltway Lobbyist Fixer right now
if that's what I chose to do. 

930
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,640
But I chose to support the 
America First candidate, and I 

931
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,800
have no regrets whatsoever about
that. 

932
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,440
I think Donald Trump changed the
course of history. 

933
00:53:57,720 --> 00:54:00,640
I think he's going to change the
course of history again. 

934
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,520
I just want to be there to help 
him once again. 

935
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,000
What are some of the techniques 
that he's suggesting? 

936
00:54:07,720 --> 00:54:10,000
If people wanted to break it 
down into sound bite format, 

937
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,760
he's going to go through and 
he's he's learned whatever the 

938
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:17,120
lessons were from from 16 to 20,
you know, tactics and techniques

939
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,040
that he can go in and combat 
some of this evil that's going 

940
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,480
on in our our government. 
Look, I think that he came to 

941
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:27,320
the presidency not being 
involved in politics and 

942
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:32,880
therefore having the false but 
understandable thinking that 

943
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,440
there were two parties, the 
Republicans and the Democrats, 

944
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:38,520
and that the Republicans would 
rally around him as the leader 

945
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,720
and the Democrats would oppose 
him. 

946
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,760
That's not, of course, what 
happened. 

947
00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:47,040
It took him a long time to 
realize it was a fifth column 

948
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:50,960
within his own party that was 
dedicated to removing him from 

949
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,320
the moment he became president. 
Unfortunately, he appointed some

950
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,400
of those people to high and 
powerful offices. 

951
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:03,200
I don't want to name any names 
Rod Rosenstein, but but I think 

952
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:05,080
that he will not make that 
mistake again. 

953
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:11,200
I think he understands that that
that he has to clean house if he

954
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,400
is elected top to bottom. 
He has to start with good men 

955
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:17,680
and good women who support the 
America first principle 

956
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,600
principles. 
And I I don't think he's going 

957
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:22,880
to make the same kind of 
mistakes he made the first time.

958
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,480
What specifically would you call
America First principles? 

959
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,080
How do you break that down 
instead of the TM version of it?

960
00:55:29,720 --> 00:55:31,040
Well, I think it's pretty 
simple. 

961
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:34,520
Which is every decision, whether
it is a trade decision, whether 

962
00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:38,080
it's a military decision, 
whether it's an economic 

963
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,400
decision. 
Does it put the interests of the

964
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:45,480
United States first? 
Shipping $100 million of aid to 

965
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,720
Gaza when we have 370,000 
homeless veterans in this 

966
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:53,480
country does not put America 
first. 

967
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,400
There's just a perfect example. 
How many countries are you aware

968
00:55:57,400 --> 00:56:00,280
of that? 
Tax their citizens, take those 

969
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,440
tax dollars and then turn around
and send them to support 

970
00:56:02,440 --> 00:56:06,760
programs in America. 
Say that again. 

971
00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:09,880
I'm sorry, I missed your point. 
How many how many countries out 

972
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,960
there in in the world are taxing
their citizens, taking their tax

973
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:15,360
dollars and then sending them to
aid packages for the United 

974
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:16,040
States? 
The what? 

975
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,640
What aid do we receive? 
I think that answer would be 0. 

976
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,040
It's time to put America first. 
In other words, there are hungry

977
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,720
people here. 
There are people who need help 

978
00:56:25,720 --> 00:56:26,960
here. 
There are. 

979
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:30,200
There are veterans who don't 
have adequate health care here. 

980
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:34,680
They're homeless veterans here. 
There are people struggling 

981
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:37,440
here. 
Why are we shipping billions of 

982
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,880
dollars to Ukraine? 
This makes no sense to me. 

983
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:47,080
And this whole narrative that, 
oh, Vladimir Putin, who is a bad

984
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:49,240
guy, by the way, no one disputes
that. 

985
00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:53,640
But he's not fighting in Ukraine
because he wants to take control

986
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:57,720
of Ukraine, to bring back the 
faded glory of the old Soviet 

987
00:56:57,720 --> 00:56:59,920
Union. 
He's fighting in Ukraine because

988
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:04,440
we signed a treaty in which we 
agreed not to put NATO based 

989
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,360
Western missiles pointed at 
Russia on the ground in Ukraine 

990
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:13,160
and we're violating that treaty.
He's warned the Ukrainians and 

991
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,480
us multiple times. 
Look, here's the easiest way to 

992
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,320
wrap this up. 
Weakness breeds aggression, 

993
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,440
whether you're the Russians or 
the Chinese or the Iranians. 

994
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,920
When you see Joe Biden and you 
see his policies, what you see 

995
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,840
is a lack of resolve and 
weakness. 

996
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:35,040
You also see policies that don't
make any sense. 

997
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:39,800
Giving $6 billion to the 
Iranians and trusting them to 

998
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:43,880
use it for humanitarian purposes
only when they're screaming 

999
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,280
death to America at the top of 
their lungs, that doesn't make 

1000
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,760
much sense. 
If Trump was still in the White 

1001
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,480
House, there'd be no war in 
Ukraine. 

1002
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:58,560
There'd be no danger posed to to
Taiwan. 

1003
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:04,080
There would be no attacks in 
Israel because of the 

1004
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,160
unpredictability of Donald 
Trump. 

1005
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:08,240
None of this would have 
happened. 

1006
00:58:08,760 --> 00:58:11,640
But as long as this 
administration continues these 

1007
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,120
policies of weakness and 
failure, I think the possibility

1008
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,240
for World War Three are very, 
very real. 

1009
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,440
Yeah. 
And I'll add that I probably 

1010
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,800
would still be an FBI agent and 
you probably would still be 

1011
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,920
unindicted and never arrested by
by former employer. 

1012
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,280
So we would have had some other 
very difficult outcomes. 

1013
00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,680
I'm curious about this. 
You spent a lot of time around 

1014
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:32,240
DC you've you've met a lot of 
the players that people just 

1015
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:36,040
know of from headlines. 
Is Joe Biden unique in sort of 

1016
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,800
the picture of corruption that 
we see or is he closer to the 

1017
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,800
standard of what exists in that 
area? 

1018
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:49,080
Joe Biden is is kind of unique 
in the sense that Democrats 

1019
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,360
don't even like him. 
He was not their first choice 

1020
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,360
for president in the last 
election. 

1021
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,880
He was last man standing. 
I think the Democratic Party and

1022
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,320
I think the federal government 
is run by Barack Obama. 

1023
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:06,400
I think he's the single most 
dominant and influential 

1024
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:09,200
Democrat in the country. 
Certainly the most dominant 

1025
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:16,960
person in this administration. 
And Joe Biden, generally 

1026
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,080
speaking, not well liked in the 
Senate, even by Democrats. 

1027
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:24,560
I forget who it was who 
correctly said he's been wrong. 

1028
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,560
I guess it was Robert Gates. 
The former Secretary of Defense 

1029
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:30,760
served under both Republicans 
and Democrats. 

1030
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,400
I wonder how that works, said 
that Joe Biden has been wrong on

1031
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:38,800
every major foreign policy issue
in his entire career. 

1032
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:44,400
He's always been a mean 
spirited, greedy, corrupt, 

1033
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:49,880
self-centered loudmouth who is 
never particularly well liked. 

1034
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,600
I think they made him president 
because they knew he was 

1035
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:56,760
controllable because of the vast
evidence of corruption that 

1036
00:59:56,760 --> 01:00:00,760
exists about him. 
But I think he was, even prior 

1037
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,840
to his having dementia, which I 
think he very clearly has, he 

1038
01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,080
was always a mean spirited, wise
guy who thought he knew 

1039
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:10,520
everything. 
He definitely comes off. 

1040
01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,040
He always reminds me of that 
bully Biff from Back to the 

1041
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,400
Future. 
I just feel like that's like the

1042
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,760
80s analogy. 
The guy who just he was, you 

1043
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,000
know, he he grabbed a girl, 
'cause he could he punched him 

1044
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,000
and fly because he could. 
He got away with it because he 

1045
01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440
could, but now he's kind of 
decrepit and he doesn't really 

1046
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,440
have any of his facilities and 
he's he's even meaner. 

1047
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,800
I wonder if you'll look into 
your crystal ball with us for a 

1048
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,760
little bit and give us some some
ugly predictions. 

1049
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,680
What do you see happening in the
next 12 months? 

1050
01:00:33,120 --> 01:00:36,200
Maybe the dark side of the of 
the ball and maybe the the the 

1051
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,040
hopeful side that we can kind of
work towards. 

1052
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,600
Very hard to see. 
But I mean, we've already 

1053
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:44,280
designated 2000 troops to go to 
Israel. 

1054
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,480
They tell us that they won't be 
used in combat. 

1055
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,760
I rather doubt that. 
I think we are going to see 

1056
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,040
greater engagement. 
Is it possible that this 

1057
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:59,520
administration could go out and 
purposely start World War Three 

1058
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:04,520
in order to utilize the War 
Powers Act to indefinitely 

1059
01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:06,320
postpone the next presidential 
election? 

1060
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:10,640
Absolutely possible. 
That's a worst case scenario, 

1061
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:13,040
but I think it it's entirely 
possible. 

1062
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:16,440
I sadly think there will. 
I pray. 

1063
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,720
I pray that I'm wrong. 
But I think there will be 

1064
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,680
terrorist attacks in this 
country again along the lines of

1065
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:26,240
911. 
God, I hope that I am wrong. 

1066
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,920
On the plus side, Donald Trump 
will crush the opposition for 

1067
01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,920
the Republican National 
nomination. 

1068
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:37,440
Governor Ron DeSantis will be 
driven from the presidential 

1069
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:40,920
race shortly. 
He's out of money and he's out 

1070
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,640
of time. 
And he never had the never had 

1071
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:48,200
the chops, in fact, the efforts.
Now he's spending his money 

1072
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:51,920
attacking Nikki Haley. 
So one candidate who's running 

1073
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,280
in single digits is spending 
millions of dollars to attack 

1074
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:57,920
another candidate who's running 
in single digits. 

1075
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,320
None of this makes any sense 
whatsoever. 

1076
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:02,920
Yeah, that all checks out. 
All right. 

1077
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,040
I want to give people give you a
chance to plug some of the other

1078
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,400
things. 
I appreciated you sharing your 

1079
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,840
audience with me, so I wanted to
make sure we did return that 

1080
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:10,560
favor. 
Also illuminate a lot of things.

1081
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:13,040
Give people kind of the best 
place to follow you so I can 

1082
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:14,640
get. 
Direct them to one account if 

1083
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600
you would, and then your your 
preferred book if they were 

1084
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:19,800
going to read just one and get a
taste of what you're about. 

1085
01:02:20,280 --> 01:02:25,560
Sure, go to stonezone.com. 
If you go to stonezone.com you 

1086
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:30,240
can see where the Stone Family 
Fund is if you want to help us 

1087
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:33,440
on the personal side. 
My wife still undergoing a 

1088
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:37,000
cancer treatments and we still 
have a monthly struggle. 

1089
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,000
You can buy all of my books 
including you see The Bush Crime

1090
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:41,840
Family. 
If you were going to buy one 

1091
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,320
book, I probably recommend to 
you the man who killed Kennedy. 

1092
01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:53,120
The case against LBJ Think it is
my best book, but you can also 

1093
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:57,280
you see the Roger Stones. 
That's a stone to which I signed

1094
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,760
my name. 
It's a paperweight. 

1095
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:05,240
You see Stone's Rules of My book
with a introduction by Tucker 

1096
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:07,520
Carlson. 
You there, you see the man who 

1097
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:11,240
killed Kennedy, the case against
LBJ on the lower left, right 

1098
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:14,360
there. 
Any of those would be, I think, 

1099
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,360
most enjoyable if you like 
history and politics, and I 

1100
01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:21,080
appreciate all that. 
My one of my really good buddies

1101
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:25,520
said that you're his personal 
hero and he is absolutely like a

1102
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,720
a staunch reader of your of your
book, the The Stones Rules. 

1103
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:32,240
So I appreciate you joining me 
today Sir. 

1104
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:36,400
Thanks for sharing your time 
with us and I hope that I hope 

1105
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:37,720
this country continues to pull 
out of it. 

1106
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,120
I I hope you don't stop speaking
even though we're we're dealing 

1107
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,600
with some pretty precarious 
times. 

1108
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:43,240
Well. 
It was a great pleasure to be 

1109
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:46,200
here, A great honor to be here. 
I'm glad to see that your own 

1110
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,840
podcast is getting off the 
ground. 

1111
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:49,440
Please let me know how I can 
help. 

1112
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,360
God bless you. 
You too, Sir. 

1113
01:03:51,400 --> 01:03:56,000
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our show and that is our show. 
Thank you so much for joining us

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folks. 
We do really appreciate it. 

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We do streaming here live from 
Liberty Hill, TX in Texas, 

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America at 0830 Central time. 
That's 09/30. 

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For those of you over on the 
West, make that East Coast. 

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Yeah. 
What are you doing over there? 

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Why aren't you in America? 
Get in the middle here. 

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All right. 
You can support this show by 

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going to rumble.com/kyle 
Seraphin, giving us a like. 

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Or you can give us a 5 star 
review on Apple, which is where 

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our biggest audience is. 
We really appreciate it. 

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And we will read them live on 
the show like we will this one 

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right here. 
Here it is, says X7. 

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Cowan Cowan, do you own an X7? 
I don't know what that is. 

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Love the show. 5 stars. 
Great insight from a patriotic 

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guy that's willing to put his 
money on the table and isn't 

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stuck on a certain person to fix
the country. 

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But an ideology of America and 
the Constitution, ain't that 

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right? 
That is correct. 

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We are only here for the 
Constitution. 

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We're in it to win it. 
We are only in it if it's 

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America first. 
And I don't mean that with a 

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trademark some politician 
assigned to it. 

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I mean, we want America to win 
so that our kids can live on the

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Constitution the way that I grew
up. 

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That's what we're all about 
here. 

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We do really appreciate your 
attention, folks. 

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Give us a thumbs up as you leave
the door on rumble.com/kyle 

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Serafin. 
If you have not done it. 

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You can also share us on all of 
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and on True Social. 
We do really appreciate all of 

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you being here. 
We look forward to doing this 

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again. 
We've got Lily Kate coming up 

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next, so hold on to that for 
tomorrow, folks. 

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God bless you. 
Thanks for joining us. 

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We'll see you tomorrow. 
Thanks for listening to The Kyle

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Serafin Show streamed live 
Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays 

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on rumble.com/kyle Serafin. 
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Social at Kyle Serafin.