1 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,160 Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower and 2 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,560 American patriot. Prepare to embrace the 3 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:12,000 uncomfortable truth because this program has no time for 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,440 comforting lies. Here is civil liberties 5 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:18,400 enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI 6 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:26,560 agent Kyle Seraphim. Hello my friends, welcome to the 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:30,400 Kyle Seraphin Show. It is Friday, May the 19th. 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,760 We are live on Rumble right now. It's a little bit after 8:30 in 9 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:38,360 Texas America. Folks down there in the chat, if 10 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:40,320 you'll give me a thumbs up telling me that you can hear us 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:45,360 just fine and I will look forward to bringing on our guest 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,080 today. We've got George Hill. 13 00:00:47,160 --> 00:00:51,320 He was not testifying in person yesterday in front of Congress 14 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,840 and yet he was testifying in front of Congress whether he 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,680 liked it or not. He had some some video footage 16 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,480 that was shown. I think some of the stuff is 17 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,080 going to be kind of eye opening. I'm going to bring him on to 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,120 discuss it. We're going to give our 19 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:03,160 reactions to what we saw in the weaponization committee. 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,640 If you still watch Fox News, you would have seen him on Laura 21 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,400 Ingraham last night, I believe. 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He just launched into it like 95 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:21,000 people know just because he is a pretty familiar face to many of 96 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,680 you. If you are following our show, 97 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 George Hill, welcome to the program my friend. 98 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,320 Thank you, it's great to be here. 99 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,000 Long day yesterday. I believe that actually. 100 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:32,280 Let me let me switch to this one here. 101 00:04:32,280 --> 00:04:33,760 I got a different view camera. There we go. 102 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,520 All right, so there's George. He's sitting in his undisclosed 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:42,000 bunker location surrounded by ammunition and, you know, food 104 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 stuffs, Stay Puff, marshmallows, things like that. 105 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,480 And George, yesterday you got an unexpected sort of cameo. 106 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Did you know that they were going to be playing those 107 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:51,080 videos? Did they give you that heads up? 108 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,600 No heads up, but I assumed as much. 109 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,640 I seem to have become one of their favorite boogeyman and I 110 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,120 lost you for one second so. I lost you for one second there 111 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,160 because that was my mistake. I got to add a different audio. 112 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:05,560 Bear with me. Sorry about this, folks. 113 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,960 I'm doing things on the fly because Tracy Beans asked me to 114 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:11,760 be on her podcast and so I did. And when you, when you do things 115 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,640 like that, then you end up being kind of a bonehead who misses 116 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,720 out on one of the most important things, which is the video. 117 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,840 Let's put that up real quick. The folks that are going to be 118 00:05:23,840 --> 00:05:27,280 listening to the the audio stream on there we go. 119 00:05:27,280 --> 00:05:33,280 All right, sorry, my friends. They said, Kyle, you're muted. 120 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:35,040 The sound just went away. Yes, of course it did because I 121 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,840 I'm a fool. I'm trying to build this 122 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,200 airplane on the fly again. All right, George, you were in 123 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:40,600 front of Congress without knowing it. 124 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:41,920 I'll just going to double back to that. 125 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:43,400 You didn't know that they were going to start playing those 126 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,400 videos and let's fire away. No, they, they, they like 127 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,320 punching on me and that's fine. I don't know who's taking their 128 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,480 cue from who, whether Congress has taken their cue from Rolling 129 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,640 Stone magazine or vice versa. It's kind of hard to pull them 130 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:01,480 apart and see who's calling the shots there. 131 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,200 But yeah, I watched the the the testimony yesterday from 132 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,080 beginning to end and wasn't surprised to see come up there 133 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:11,760 to Congress made a pretty lame attempt. 134 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,880 But they keep on forgetting one key aspect that they love my 135 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Twitter post. And thank you for, for for U.S. 136 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,640 Congress for following me on Twitter. 137 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,840 But they keep on forgetting those posts were made after I 138 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:28,120 left the FBI. So they they seem to have a lot 139 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:29,720 of issues beyond the Second Amendment. 140 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,320 They seem to have an issue as evidenced with their crucifixion 141 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:37,160 of Matt Taibbi and the other gentleman whose name I'm 142 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,520 blanking on right now. I apologize to Schellenberger. 143 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Schellenberger. Yeah. 144 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,160 And but they seem to have a problem with the expression of 145 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:48,040 free speech, and they don't seem to understand hashtags. 146 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,880 And as evidenced by that one congresswoman, I think she was 147 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:55,480 from Texas, railing on Marcus. They don't understand how 148 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,000 Twitter works either, apparently, I think. 149 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,800 She was from California. I think that was Representative 150 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Sanchez with the OK. Yeah, it was definitely Sanchez. 151 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,320 I couldn't remember what what state she was from. 152 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,400 What? A goofball, right? 153 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:10,480 Like have you, you've been in some interrogations, right? 154 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:12,520 That that. That's part. 155 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,200 That's part part of your life experience. 156 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,000 You ever been in an interrogation where you had some 157 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,080 bad background information and when you bring it up like it 158 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:21,200 completely falls flat and then you just decided to stick with 159 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:22,160 it? Is that a thing you've ever 160 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,200 done? You know, I, I do believe in the 161 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 old adage, if you're in too deep, go in deeper. 162 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:31,440 But I mean, at at some point you just need to recognize you're 163 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,520 making a fool out of yourself and just, you know, it's like, 164 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:37,600 all right, you know, maybe have another question in the holster 165 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,800 to be able to pull out and use. But no, she just kept right on 166 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,720 digging. And I don't think they care of 167 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,000 of of their own optic and how they look because they live in 168 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,320 such a a well insulated echo chamber. 169 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,440 They they don't care. I, I, I honestly think that they 170 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,680 don't and they're immune to well, they got, you know, 171 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,560 slander walls and things of that nature. 172 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,320 That's exactly. Do whatever they want to do 173 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:03,520 You're. Right, I'm going to sit back 174 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,720 just a little bit 'cause this is getting intense in my mind. 175 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:07,720 Did you ever go through airborne training? 176 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,400 Was that something you did in your military career? 177 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:12,680 I went through the civilian side of the house. 178 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,600 It was on a dare for my son. So I I got qualified and you 179 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,520 know this. Was was this like a freefall 180 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,680 skydive kind of thing or this was? 181 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:24,480 Yeah. And after like your first or 182 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,720 second freefall on your own, it's kind of boring. 183 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,320 It's some people, absolutely. Love it. 184 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,200 No, I don't love it. I, I just, some people actually 185 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,280 do so, so military freefall and even civilian freefall. 186 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:38,919 Different animal than static line. 187 00:08:38,919 --> 00:08:41,520 And so this lady reminded me of a static line. 188 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:43,880 You go through the army. So as you can imagine, you go 189 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,080 through the army and things are dumb a lot of times. 190 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,240 It's one of the dumbest courses that I've ever been through. 191 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,080 I know people get excited about it 'cause you get a badge out of 192 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:53,760 it, but end of the day, there's nothing brilliant about falling 193 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:55,600 out of the back. It's like AC130 comes and cracks 194 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,920 you out the back of it and then you just end up wherever you go 195 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,280 with minimal steerability. And you know, there's an 196 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,440 expression they use there and they do it all the time. 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:05,120 Airborne school is all about rote knowledge. 198 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,160 They're all about slapping the side of their thing and pointing 199 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:09,520 you out and the knife hand and and giving you that sort of 200 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:11,160 instruction. Classic, you know, military 201 00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,800 culture that they built up. But one of the funniest things 202 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:17,680 is they will always tell you once something happens, once you 203 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,600 get to a certain point in the fall and you kind of assess 204 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,040 that's treetops. When you're at Fort Benning, you 205 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:25,960 got to hold what you got. That's what they say it over and 206 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,440 every got hold what you got airborne. 207 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:29,520 And even before you jump, they call you airborne. 208 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:31,800 So hold what you got airborne is kind of a thing. 209 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,480 And at some point in time when you're falling down there and 210 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,480 you just see people and they're just, you know, I was laying on 211 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,800 my back and I look up, 'cause I did it right, 'cause I'm not a 212 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:40,720 dummy, I guess. But I look over and I just see 213 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,440 guys just going off into the trees, you know, and you go 214 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:44,880 like, oh shit, that's going to really hurt. 215 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,120 That just looks bad. That looks like that's going to 216 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,440 be tough. And you just see him, you know, 217 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,080 just taking tree branches to the face. 218 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,720 You got to hold what you got. You got to put yourself in the 219 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,000 craft position to do it. Or you see the guy that's flying 220 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,520 down into the LZ, which is 2000 meters long, you know, and maybe 221 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,320 5 or 600, maybe even 1000 meters wide. 222 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,920 And he hits the only Humvee that's in the middle of the the 223 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,360 LZ and he comes in flying, you know, with some some tailwind 224 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,160 and smash. And he just goes right into the 225 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:13,560 side of a Humvee and flips over it. 226 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,440 And, you know, at some point you just hold what you got. 227 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,160 That's because the alternative is you break your legs if you 228 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,680 don't land correctly. But maybe the the side note is 229 00:10:20,680 --> 00:10:22,920 that you just get, you know, bruised ribs and, you know, a 230 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,080 new nose. So hold what you got is what 231 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,160 this lady seemed like. She goes, she goes, hey, are you 232 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:32,000 Marcus A96756453? And he's like, I don't know who 233 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,680 that is. She's like, right. 234 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:36,840 But that account retweeted this thing. 235 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:38,560 And he was like, congratulations to that account. 236 00:10:38,560 --> 00:10:39,560 I don't know who you're talking about. 237 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,560 And she just could not get out of it. 238 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:43,400 So I think she was down below the tree line. 239 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,520 She had just tucked in and she was holding what she got and she 240 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:48,520 hit the Jeep. But you know what, to her 241 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,280 credit, you know, to her credit, she didn't switch tactics and 242 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,680 and fail something else. She just failed at one thing. 243 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,120 Maybe there's a benefit there? Yeah, I mean, you know, before 244 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,520 you go into an interrogation, whether it's on the battlefield 245 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,920 or strategic interrogations, say behind the wire or in Gitmo, you 246 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:09,960 have an interrogation plan. And the I went through Namitzi 247 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:12,320 Navy Marine Corps Intelligence Training Center before I 248 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,720 deployed as an interrogator. And a friend of it was after Abu 249 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,520 Ghraib, a buddy of mine who went through the same school, which 250 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,480 was quite frankly, the one of the hardest schools I've ever 251 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:23,960 been in, not just physically, but, but mentally as well. 252 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,240 I mean, never got more to two or three hours sleep at night for, 253 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:29,560 for over 3 weeks. But he said that the Army 254 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:33,360 managed to condense a three-week class into 3 1/2 months. 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:39,160 So, but you you write your interrogation plan, you know, 256 00:11:39,240 --> 00:11:42,160 and it's it in without a healthy training in the Mitzi, it's very 257 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,320 vague. But you recruit and train people 258 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:50,560 that can adjust as the interrogation evolves, not the 259 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,560 Army and clearly not this congresswoman. 260 00:11:52,560 --> 00:11:55,800 She could not make the adjustment rather than just, you 261 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,720 know, she she was, she was just a dumb bomb. 262 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:01,480 She was going to hit the ground at what? 263 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:03,680 And just for the record, I did not call her dumb. 264 00:12:03,680 --> 00:12:06,520 I just said she was a dumb bomb as opposed to a smart bomb, 265 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:07,800 which is a guided munition. Yeah. 266 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,080 Unguided munition. She had a payload. 267 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:12,240 She delivered the payload. It didn't matter where it went. 268 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,440 If it falls on a school, it falls out of school. 269 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,480 If it falls on a on an airway, it falls on an airway. 270 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,200 American gorilla in the chat just mentioned airborne is only 271 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,440 an infill message method and that's correct. 272 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:24,600 Yeah. So I agreement it is just how 273 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:26,160 you get to work. It's not the work you end up 274 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,280 doing. That being said, this woman 275 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,760 never made it to work, as you mentioned, not not guided, just 276 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:35,600 delivered payload that was completely off target. 277 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:38,080 And yet, you know, they're not accountable for any of the 278 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:40,560 rounds as you mentioned that it doesn't matter what they say, it 279 00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,480 doesn't matter how they say it. They just push things 280 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,680 incorrectly and no one holds accountable. 281 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,840 The funny thing is this, and I mentioned this on Dan Bongino's 282 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,960 radio the other day, she had five minutes. 283 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:53,040 You know, this is a timed exercise that they've created 284 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:55,000 this theatrical production of being in Congress. 285 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,440 One of the reasons that I'm glad I wasn't there, I'm sort of glad 286 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,960 you weren't there either because I know the kind of guys that we 287 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,320 are, that we might be combative. I know you had a scheduling 288 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,680 conflict, so we can kind of tell people what that look like, but 289 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:09,600 end of the day, they have to get their 5 minutes in and they were 290 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,280 doing everything they can to get a sound bite on, you know, CNN 291 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,240 or MSNBC or whatever, which you and I have seen this kind of 292 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:16,320 thing. We know how they do it. 293 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,320 If they don't get that, then you know they've wasted their, their 294 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:24,320 appointment on this subcommittee. 295 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:25,720 That's the only purpose that they're there. 296 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,560 They don't care about truth, they don't care about 297 00:13:27,560 --> 00:13:31,400 information, they don't care about uncovering or, or you 298 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,800 know, interrogating the witness for accuracy. 299 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,080 They didn't question the methods or the OR the message even. 300 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,800 They just went after the messengers, which we saw I I 301 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,680 know you had a schedule conflict. 302 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:42,720 You were, you were teaching college. 303 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,960 It was yesterday, right? That was yesterday. 304 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,280 I. Teach on Wednesday evenings and 305 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,200 Saturday mornings. So there's no way I could have 306 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:54,160 taught on Wednesday night. And you know, Mr. Scott wasn't 307 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,160 working. He could not beam me down to DC 308 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,760 for an appearance on Thursday. So. 309 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:01,680 And I realized I don't know who's in the chat here or the 310 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,720 age group, but they might not know who Mr. Scott is, but he 311 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,680 was the original engineer, chief engineer, whatever on the 312 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:10,240 original Star Trek series, right? 313 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:11,560 So. For the young members, if you've 314 00:14:11,560 --> 00:14:14,040 heard Scotty beam me up, that's who Mr. Scott was. 315 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,520 Scott was. He was the engineer that ran the 316 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,920 the teleporter that he rented everything. 317 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:20,280 Yeah, he said. Yeah, actually he did. 318 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:21,800 He ran the warp drives and everything, right? 319 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:23,320 Yeah. The only thing I never saw on 320 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:24,960 Star Trek, I think was a cha hall. 321 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,560 They that's the only thing I think they didn't have. 322 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,160 Well, I didn't see any passageways secured for field 323 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:30,560 day. I didn't see any of that either. 324 00:14:30,560 --> 00:14:32,920 So. You know what they did do in the 325 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:34,600 next generation, though? When they came up, they realized 326 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,000 they needed to have a chow hall of some kind or a dining 327 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:38,720 facility. So they started having, they 328 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,280 started beaming food in. They had like one of the what 329 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,920 the heck was it called? There was a machine that you 330 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,640 could, they'd go computer tea, Earl Grey hot. 331 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,720 He ordered it like a military tag so he would comma. 332 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,240 Tea. Comma, Yeah, Earl Grey, comma. 333 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:54,280 And then like hot or cold, right. 334 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,520 So that was that was the famous Jean Luc Picard. 335 00:14:56,520 --> 00:15:00,000 He would go, you know, computer tea, Earl Grey hot. 336 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,480 And then he would go, it would beam down with some kind of, it 337 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,840 was a reconstructor. And anyhow, so there it is. 338 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,280 Cookie is very disappointed by the way that Cookie is in the 339 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,440 chat. He's one of our buddies that we 340 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,800 see in all the Twitter spaces. And, and he was very upset that 341 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:15,920 you did not make it down there from the teleporter. 342 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:17,640 He's upset with Mr. Scott, not with you. 343 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:19,800 So. Thank you SO. 344 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 You saw some of the testimony, you got to to reflect on it. 345 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:24,240 What was your big takeaways? Were there any things that you 346 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,720 thought were bombshell from the guys or was there anything new 347 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:29,880 that you hadn't heard before, 'cause I know, you know, we all 348 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,640 kind of talk in a circle here, but sometimes these guys drop 349 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,000 new stuff on us. In terms of of, of tangible 350 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,760 information that came forward on the testimony, which almost 351 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,360 never happens in these things that they're all rehearsed. 352 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,200 Everyone knows what they're going to talk about going in 353 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,960 there, except for the poor men and women who have to sit 354 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,720 opposite the dais and be berated. 355 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,280 My biggest take away was how shameless the Democrats were in 356 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:03,720 attacking their their patriotism, their commitment to 357 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:06,160 the rule of law and the US Constitution. 358 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:08,280 They were just absolutely shameless. 359 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:14,280 And you know, that tells me there's there's no interest in 360 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,320 at least half the Congress that's. 361 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,240 Right. To try to identify where these 362 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,520 failings are taking place. They don't want to hear it and 363 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,520 they just want to attack the messenger, discredit the 364 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:32,800 message, and if possible, dirty them up personally so much that 365 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,840 they become NPG non persona, non grata. 366 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,640 Yeah, PN. GNPC is a different thing. 367 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,320 That's the the non player characters, which is to say what 368 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,840 they are actually the the people that sort of are automatons and 369 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:48,600 simply don't make any sense. It it is that's. 370 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,560 Just really, really they did the same thing with you. 371 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,640 I, I can't imagine how those, those patriots felt sitting 372 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,200 there. And hopefully I'll have a chance 373 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:01,080 to talk to, to each of them and find out to be personally 374 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,040 attacked like that. I was attacked just in Rolling 375 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,640 Stones, CNN and New York Times and I don't have any feelings. 376 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:07,880 I've been married more than once. 377 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:10,720 My I have no feelings, no self esteem. 378 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:13,720 I I have grown children. You enlisted. 379 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:16,440 Yeah. It's just, it's over. 380 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,760 And and I was upset by what I saw in print. 381 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,839 I, I, you know, I can't imagine how they felt. 382 00:17:23,839 --> 00:17:25,400 Somebody was. Attacked by the. 383 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Eternity in my testimony, but not like they were. 384 00:17:29,120 --> 00:17:30,640 I was going to say because they, they did come after you. 385 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:34,080 All right, folks, I, I realized that I, I did a, I did a good 386 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,520 introduction for you last night when you popped into a Twitter 387 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:38,480 space and started rolling. I didn't do as good of an 388 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,360 introduction today. So those of you who have not 389 00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:42,480 seen George Hill, and many of you probably do recognize him. 390 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:46,080 George is an FBI whistleblower. He came out of retirement to get 391 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,880 into the fight with us with the suspendables. 392 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,280 He has been in this for quite a while with us now. 393 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,600 He has been on at least two of our good podcasts. 394 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,440 You can go look those up if you want to hear his back story in 395 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:01,400 long form. But quite quickly he was on one 396 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,280 side working for the military and did military intelligence 397 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,640 for the United States Marine Corps for about 13 years and 398 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,520 then another thirteen years or so for the United States Navy, 399 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:14,680 retired as a senior chief. And then also on the civilian 400 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,480 side, had worked for the NSA for about five years or so, if my 401 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,760 memory serves. And then did about another 11 402 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:24,400 years of federal service working for the FBI as a senior 403 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,440 intelligence analyst, which is to say an intelligence, sorry, a 404 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:30,400 supervisory intelligence analyst, which makes him the guy 405 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,360 that would approve documents and sort of foster the culture 406 00:18:33,360 --> 00:18:36,120 within the Intel folks in the Boston field office, including 407 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:40,280 running the Boston Marathon task force, the the bombing task 408 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:42,120 force, which we've talked about South. 409 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:44,080 Some of you will, like I said, will be familiar with him. 410 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,360 You'll be familiar with the story. 411 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:47,960 We actually did a, an interview about the Boston Marathon 412 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,080 bombing again. And then I, I managed to not 413 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,720 tape any of the sound. So I'm not sure how good an 414 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 interview it was. It was both of me struggling and 415 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:57,600 probably about like we were today. 416 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,640 But this is this is, I think a good timely time to bring you in 417 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:06,200 and kind of have that discussion about what, oh, we lost him. 418 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,200 We're going to reconnect with George here. 419 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:10,280 We'll just keep talking about it. 420 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:14,120 At the end of the day, George has been able to expose a bunch 421 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:18,000 of things from his position within the FBI that many people 422 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:23,200 did not have access to. They did not, they didn't see 423 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:24,880 the same things. The supervisor see things in a 424 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:29,600 broader scope. And they are able to, you know, 425 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:31,600 personally take responsibility for certain things. 426 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,560 But they also are able to sit back further and have a a little 427 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:36,320 bit more. There he is. 428 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:45,360 Where's that George? There he is. 429 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:49,640 Can you hear me now, bud? Oh, you're muted. 430 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:51,200 Loud and clear. Sorry. 431 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:54,160 There he is. So, you know, George worked in 432 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,080 in Boston. And what he saw was something 433 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,120 that wouldn't probably go to frontline agents. 434 00:19:58,120 --> 00:20:00,520 And the conversations that he was party to were a little bit 435 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,760 different than most people would would be able to hear. 436 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:05,600 And one of those was that they they. 437 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,920 Played your, your video testimony about it. 438 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:11,040 This was about the Bank of America information. 439 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,760 Do you mind kind of setting up what that was and why that was 440 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,200 such a big deal? Why they wanted to drop it in 441 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,440 the into the the testimony yesterday 'cause I think they 442 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,240 were trying to make a bigger point that about weaponization. 443 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,480 So I'll, I'll just assume that not everyone in the chat or 444 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,280 everyone who watches this video or listens to the podcast knows 445 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,840 what happened. So on or about January 8th or 446 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,240 7th, Bank of America took it upon themselves to data mine 447 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,040 their customer base and they pulled from that any BOA 448 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,840 customer who used ABOA product, whether that be a debit card or 449 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:49,600 credit card either in Washington DC or in Nova, the Northern 450 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:53,240 Virginia area. And they date ranged it between 451 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,560 on the front end 5 January, on the back end 7 January. 452 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,560 So that was a date range. The data came from the customer 453 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,160 base. If you had purchased a hot dog 454 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,160 from a street vendor and use a credit card or a ball cap from 455 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,600 the Smithsonian Institution and use your BOA credit card, you 456 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,880 were on that list and just. To be clear, are those 457 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,040 allegations or information that you may have been involved in a 458 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,560 federal crime or that's just a completely arbitrary date and 459 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,360 time range that was around that event? 460 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,000 BOA took it upon themselves. So one of the things that I, I, 461 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,080 I, I want to get back to it, but I think this is an important 462 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,960 point and, and I keep, I fail to make it almost every time. 463 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,040 BOA and the FBI, the FBI maintains that the Bank of 464 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,960 America did it of their own volition. 465 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,440 And if someone, quote, gives us something, we're going to ingest 466 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,400 it, which the FBI did. They wrote an EC and electronic 467 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,840 communication, uploaded it to Sentinel, which is the system of 468 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,760 record. But here's some key questions 469 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:57,160 that Congress needs to get into. Who at the Bank of America said, 470 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:01,400 hey, we're going to do this because we've already seen IC 471 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,080 influence throughout Silicon Valley, right? 472 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:08,760 Was it's just some Uber patriot at at Bank of America said, hey, 473 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:15,760 we wanted, we want to help. Or was it a retired DOJ or FBI 474 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,880 or CIA person that said, hey, you need to do this, you know, 475 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,160 because at, at that level they're not doing keystrokes 476 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:26,080 and, and, you know, doing data polls, right? 477 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,920 That's a that's a policy decision that goes down to some 478 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:29,000 people that are doing the marching. 479 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,920 Or did this happen you know, bro to bro hey Kyle, hey bro need to 480 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,760 do something for me. You know we're not going to do 481 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:38,600 an NSL. We're not going to do you know 482 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,480 any official documentation just pull it. 483 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:42,720 We need it right away. Have. 484 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:44,800 You ever dealt, have you ever dealt with Bank Secrecy Act? 485 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,160 Is that something you're familiar with at all? 486 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,360 Not that much. I only my last two years were 487 00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:51,480 gangs and drugs. That doesn't, right? 488 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,120 But you know what I mean. So I yeah. 489 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,320 I like, I like the idea that your last two years in the 490 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,560 government were gangs and drugs. That's, that's actually some 491 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:01,400 people's experience. We got to get Phil on to talk 492 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:03,280 about it at some point too, because my understanding was 493 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:06,200 Bank Secrecy Act, the Bank Privacy Secrecy Act stuff 494 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,880 actually prohibits the, the free handing over without legal 495 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,640 process. I'm not 100% sure that they were 496 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,360 supposed to be able to do that. That may have been actually a 497 00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:17,880 violation of federal law. And, and the only because I know 498 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:20,800 that that that was a common understanding that people had 499 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,240 that if you wanted to come get something, you had to produce a 500 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,200 subpoena or the NSL or they weren't even allowed to give it 501 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:27,840 to you. And and that's partially to 502 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:30,800 protect the bank from that bro to bro interaction, which could 503 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,280 compromise their fiduciary duty to privacy and stuff because 504 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,600 bank records are some of the more private things that people 505 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,560 have, you know, telephone records. 506 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,960 There is a, there is an expectation that those are not 507 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,320 going to be made public. So it's kind of interesting that 508 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,000 they decided to go. I mean, there is that 509 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,080 expectation, obviously you and I both have that whether Bank of 510 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:49,760 America does or not is another animal. 511 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Right. So continuing on, so a 512 00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:58,880 congressman brought that up some some BOA misbehaviors, I forget 513 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,800 his name, I apologize, but he's clearly a defender of the 514 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Constitution and the Bill of Rights. 515 00:24:05,360 --> 00:24:07,640 So I apologize. I don't remember his name, but 516 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,960 you know, he said very articulately and clearly that 517 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:13,440 there are a lot of other issues pending before various 518 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,600 committees in Congress of BOA misbehavior. 519 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,200 So anyhow, back to the original monologue. 520 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:25,040 They did that data poll and then they looked even further. 521 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:29,160 So if you, when you showed up on that list, if you had ever in 522 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:33,440 your entire history with Bank of America, used ABOA product to 523 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,080 purchase a firearm. So if you purchased a shotgun at 524 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,360 Walmart to go pheasant hunting in South Dakota, you're going to 525 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:43,120 move to the top of that list. So there were two lists 526 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:46,200 essentially they, they filtered the, the list of all the people 527 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,200 that were in DC that they were able to get a credit card 528 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,800 transaction or any other BOA product that were used. 529 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,640 January, you said 5th to 8th, 5 to 7. 530 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,520 OK. So during the the the days on 531 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,000 either side of January 6th, they grabbed that and then they 532 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,200 filtered that against people who bought firearms. 533 00:25:02,360 --> 00:25:04,280 Right. So they basically just stacked 534 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:05,120 it. So they got those people. 535 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:05,840 They. Sorted it like. 536 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,880 Cream, you know, in in milk before pasteurization. 537 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,800 It rose to the top and then that you're on the list. 538 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,800 And what did that Also on that list is anybody who bought a 539 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:18,240 ticket, and I forget the date range on that talking over three 540 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,720 years ago, anyone who bought a ticket to fly to any one of the 541 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:28,520 three DC airports, Dulles, BWI or Reagan, right. 542 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:33,600 And that had a larger time frame because just in case they, you 543 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,560 know, bought the ticket for a flight that goes out on January 544 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,320 5th, but they didn't use her BOA card. 545 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:41,760 They want to make sure that they captured that person in the data 546 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,360 poll as well. Right, because that's really 547 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:46,920 important that they tell that information. 548 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,640 Now, does this remind you, did you see this thing we did with 549 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,280 Sony La Bosca about the the air marshals following people during 550 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:52,760 those days? Yes, I. 551 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:53,840 Did. Yes, I did. 552 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,360 And so. This is a concerted effort, not 553 00:25:55,360 --> 00:25:58,720 just from the federal government to do this in multiple agencies, 554 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,760 but now we're talking about adding like some of the biggest 555 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,440 commercial banks in this country. 556 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,400 And, and you guys had some pushback there. 557 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,640 So I, I know that we should give credit where it's due to the 558 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,640 people that did the right thing when it was the right thing to 559 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:12,680 do it. The FBI in Boston, which was 560 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,400 your office pushed back. But the pushback actually came 561 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,160 with sort of a revelation. I think that's what Thomas 562 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,400 Massie was getting to in his playing of that video yesterday. 563 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,480 Do you mind kind of laying out the pushback and then sort of 564 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:27,560 why you guys couldn't open a case and some of the rationale 565 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,720 and what it means? So I want to give a a 566 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:31,440 background. I want to kind of preempt, you 567 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,120 know, someone else watching this video and writing another hit 568 00:26:34,120 --> 00:26:37,960 piece. I was responsible for two 569 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,000 intelligence analysts in my last two years in the Bureau. 570 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,320 So I had the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area for six states 571 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:48,120 that I was responsible for. And then I also had two embedded 572 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,120 analysts, one at the Commonwealth Fusion Center, 573 00:26:50,120 --> 00:26:52,240 Commonwealth of Massachusetts, and the other at the Boston 574 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800 Regional Intelligence Center, the Brick, as it's referred to. 575 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,840 OK. So I would work with the SSA 576 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,880 Supervisory special agent in charge of, you know, he had the 577 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:07,200 domestic terrorism threat and I talk to him every day, every 578 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:10,280 day. And I, when I went in for my 579 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,400 ONDCP meetings, Office of National Drug Control Policy, 580 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,400 when I went in for those weekly meetings, I would meet with the 581 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,960 SSAI would also meet with my supervisor face to face, because 582 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,760 there's no, you know, telephone and, and this sort of medium is 583 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,000 fine, but there's nothing better than face to face. 584 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:32,480 Yes, I would meet with this gentleman and we would discuss, 585 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:37,520 you know, various cases, various, you know, threats that 586 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:41,280 may be metastasizing out there. And certainly January 6th was 587 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,400 one of them. And he said, look at, you know, 588 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:47,400 look at this lead that that we got sent from, from WFO 589 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,640 Washington field office. And in that lead, and I don't 590 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:54,160 remember, I'm kind of settling on the middle number, I'm just 591 00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,800 going to say 7 individuals that were on that original Bank of 592 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,560 America list were listed on the EC that came to Boston and said 593 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,400 you need to open up cases on these people. 594 00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:13,240 And instead of so staying with my preemption of a hit piece to 595 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:16,320 come out probably over the weekend or tomorrow, I saw the 596 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,320 names. I went to my own computer, saw 597 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:24,360 the original EC, but could not open the big BOA spreadsheet 598 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,120 because you can do that in Sentinel. 599 00:28:26,120 --> 00:28:28,640 You can restrict certain aspects of what people can see. 600 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,000 Because I, my squad was not set the lead, right. 601 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,000 I, I am an intelligence squad leader, not an investigative 602 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:41,760 squad leader. So the the SSA said, you know, 603 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:47,280 based on what and WFO said, well, these people were in the 604 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:51,240 Washington area during this, you know, one or around January 6. 605 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,680 So you need to open up at least a API preliminary investigation 606 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:57,880 on these individuals. And, the SSA said, not without 607 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,080 predication. And, and so people understand 608 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,120 the predication for a preliminary investigation. 609 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,880 A lot of this actually goes to what we saw in the Durham 610 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,840 report. So some of this, some of FB is 611 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,480 kind of internal policy is becoming more and more popular 612 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:11,040 with people in the world because they didn't have an 613 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,680 understanding of it. They didn't have a, a need to 614 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,040 understand it. The Pi, the, the preliminary 615 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,680 investigation, the, the predicate is that there has to 616 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,840 be an allegation of information. It doesn't have to be credible 617 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,560 yet. That's what the Pi can, can 618 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,760 ascertain. But there has to be information 619 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,600 that somebody did something. It's a federal crime. 620 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,560 So you can't just say I'm going to open it. 621 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,480 And then there's a lower burden. That's known as the assessment. 622 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,960 And that just is an authorized law enforcement purpose, which 623 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,080 might be to say to obtain information that if people did 624 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,160 something and then you could try to figure out who those people 625 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,600 were. So theoretically, they could 626 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,760 have gotten this information through an assessment. 627 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:45,440 They might have been able to authorize it. 628 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,200 Regardless, API would not have been appropriate because there 629 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,840 was no information that these people were involved in a 630 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040 federal crime. This was just a Bank of America 631 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:53,920 surrender for no reason. Right. 632 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760 So I'm, I'm paraphrasing a conversation that just placed 633 00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,600 three years ago. So you know, the the gentleman 634 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,200 in question, who in Full disclosure is a friend of mine, 635 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,520 we've been hiking together, camping together, tried to kill 636 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,280 ourselves on a couple mountains together. 637 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,040 He's a friend of mine. I'm not going to try and hide 638 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:17,640 that, but he may have a different recollection than I do 639 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,560 of the exact wording. But that is the the gist in 640 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,920 terms of accuracy of what happened, which was pressure to 641 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,280 open up cases or at least API on these seven people. 642 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,040 To which this gentleman, former law enforcement officer, former 643 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:39,600 Marine Corps military policeman. And you know who, who really 644 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,520 believes in his heart in in what the original mission of the FBI 645 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,400 is and is a strong advocate of, of the Constitution, Bill of 646 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,280 Rights. And I'm not saying that because 647 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,400 he's my friend, but because I've seen it in evidence over years. 648 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,480 As are many people. Do this, as are many. 649 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680 People I think that you and I have come across in the FBI, 650 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,720 even if they tend to be a dying breed at this point, I think 651 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,720 it's worth noting there's some really decent human beings that 652 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,280 have worked in the FBI. And it's sad that it takes such 653 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:12,320 strength of character to continue doing your job, but yet 654 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,720 keep those constitutional boundaries in place against 655 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,080 pressure, whether that be promotion or, or, you know, 656 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,880 maybe some, some goodies like ATDY somewhere. 657 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,360 It shouldn't be like that to to be a man or woman of integrity. 658 00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:32,160 But nonetheless, it does require strength to do it. 659 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:37,000 So he flexed his, you know, character muscles and said, no, 660 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,480 we're not doing this. To which WFO said, well, we're 661 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,120 going to call your ASAC. And, and I'm again, I'm 662 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:47,520 paraphrasing a conversation that took place three years ago. 663 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,080 Fine, call my ASAC. Who is another Iraqi war 664 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,880 veteran? Former F18 pilot, Annapolis 665 00:31:54,880 --> 00:32:01,800 graduate ball and strike umpire. Constitutional Constitution 666 00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,520 Conservative the. The kind of people that you want 667 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,760 running law enforcement. That right knows what the 668 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:10,400 guardrails look like. And the SAC gave, I don't know 669 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,640 who the SA or I'm sorry, the ASAC assistant special agent in 670 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,880 charge, I don't know who they spoke to at WFO, what that 671 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,000 person's pay grade or position was, I don't know. 672 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,600 But the outcome was the same. No, we're not doing it. 673 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:28,320 And then it was elevated up to the SAC and now Jill Sanborn 674 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,440 testified Underoath. No, I did not speak with the 675 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,560 SAC, so I don't know who the SAC spoke to because that's what she 676 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000 said, but the SAC spoke at least hope that she. 677 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,880 Was not lying in front of Congress when she testified. 678 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:48,040 Yeah, so I don't know who the SAC spoke to. 679 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,760 The SAC didn't come and give me a down brief, you know, a 680 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,800 debrief on it. That's not the way the the world 681 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,520 works. But the outcome was the same. 682 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,120 You know, we're not we're not doing this. 683 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,400 So at the end of the day, nothing happened. 684 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,640 But there's some other questions that Congress should be asking 685 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,240 going forward. Did Washington Field office or 686 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,560 any other office open up a preliminary investigation on 687 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,360 these seven? Like there's there doesn't seem 688 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:20,280 to be an iterative process to what Congress is doing, right? 689 00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:23,600 It's one step and we're done. One step and we're done. 690 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:30,800 You're never going to get to true reform or true action in 691 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:34,360 terms of oversight without asking those follow on 692 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:39,080 questions. There's something about so when 693 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,320 I used to work surveillance, we used to laugh about the way and 694 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,720 the inefficiency of the system and and I used to always tell 695 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:48,160 people that are unofficial model was full blast, half assed, 696 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,360 right. And that seems like the way that 697 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Congress is going at some of these things, like they're 698 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,120 really excited about sharing information. 699 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,840 They're really excited about going out there and being loud 700 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200 about it, but it's full blast and half assed. 701 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,560 Steve friend gave me a great example and and I know that you 702 00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,920 guys all kind of experience different levels of this, but he 703 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,960 gave me a call and he goes, I got a call from my hotel in DC 704 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,320 from somebody who's in Congress that was going to be at the the 705 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,760 testimony the next day. And it's in the evening. 706 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,239 It's like 8:00 at night. And they said, Hey, can you grab 707 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,440 us a copy of every single one of the awards that you've ever 708 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,360 gotten while you, you know, worked in military law 709 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:22,400 enforcement service? And it's like, dude, I'm in a 710 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,360 hotel in DCI, don't have my records, like, I don't know, but 711 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,440 full blast, half assed. They're really, really excited 712 00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,120 about doing something, but they're not organized in the way 713 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,120 that people might expect. And so, you know, there's this 714 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,440 this understanding of the word investigation. 715 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:35,960 You can do investigations in many ways. 716 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,760 Congress is doing them full blast, half assed in so much as 717 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:41,520 they're interested, they're getting information from you 718 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,520 all, but they're not organized in a way that we would logically 719 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,440 conduct an organization or an what do you call it, an 720 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,840 investigation? Yeah. 721 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:50,639 It's just not, there's no, there's no one that's 722 00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,840 quarterbacking this thing that has a a background in it. 723 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,239 It seems like from my end and and maybe from yours as well. 724 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,240 No, my time on Capitol Hill. God, I felt like Methuselah 725 00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:02,040 walking down the hallway. With the exception of Dianne 726 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,960 Feinstein and a few other people, I don't think anybody 727 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,560 was any older than me. I mean, it's, it was all, you 728 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,920 know, 20 somethings, maybe some 30 somethings, right? 729 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,040 Minimal life experience. We're not making fun of you for 730 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,720 being 20, but. No, but you got to, You got. 731 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:16,840 To earn those creases on your face, you got to earn the Gray 732 00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,240 hairs in your beard. That's how it works. 733 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,080 Or if you're a lady who puts in purple in your hair, you just 734 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,200 have to make an appointment, I guess. 735 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,080 You don't have to know anything. That's a prerequisite. 736 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,720 That is a prerequisite. So that's challenging, though. 737 00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:31,400 That's a challenging thing to look at because there was there 738 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,280 is a way to conduct this thing. It's not being done. 739 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,200 And the expectation that the American people have is that 740 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,600 they're trying to come to answers. 741 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,960 And I think a lot of it is they are also trying to do a 742 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,480 competing interest, which is that they're trying to get good 743 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,000 sound bites. And those are not necessarily 744 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,240 the same thing as you and I both know. 745 00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:50,040 Like, you know, when you do an investigation, your job almost, 746 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,520 if you want to do it honestly, is to try to disprove your 747 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,880 original supposition the the same way the scientific method 748 00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:55,920 works out. It's like, I think this 749 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:57,520 happened. Is there any evidence to prove 750 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,240 it otherwise? Is there evidence that proves 751 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,520 that this is the case? You know, you, you, you don't 752 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,560 have a stake in whether it's true or false. 753 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,920 You just have to go and find out the answer. 754 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,040 Can I hit the pause button on just on that point for just a 755 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,440 second? I want to just sharpen that, 756 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:12,640 sharpen it intelligence supervisor. 757 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,240 So only like in my last two years at the Bureau, when we 758 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:19,640 were writing intelligence products, did intelligence 759 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,760 analysts have to write what's called a competing hypothesis. 760 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:28,320 And brother, let me tell you, you could have written them in 761 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,560 crayon that, you know, it would have been so weak. 762 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:37,760 So essentially what Marcus was doing in his job, one of the 763 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,880 whistleblowers, in case people are just tuning in, was offering 764 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:48,400 a competing line of thought. And as we've seen with the 765 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:52,880 interactions with Silicon Valley, with the previous 766 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,640 testimony on Capitol Hill, with the so-called journalist, that 767 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,480 competing ideas are not acceptable. 768 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,960 We, we must have safe spaces. We must have censorship. 769 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,320 We must have, you know, information, disinformation 770 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:12,360 police that people have grown so weak that they're not willing to 771 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:17,800 listen to a contrary hypothesis or some contrary train of 772 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,840 thought is really sad. And a civilized society cannot 773 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:27,040 function without competition of thoughts and, and, and, and 774 00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:30,360 some, and I'm not talking violence, just to be clear, 775 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:34,440 whoever watches this, but some degree of conflict, conflict in 776 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:38,080 terms of, of verbal conflict and talking things out and having 777 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,560 discussions. If, if, if you're not 778 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,920 uncomfortable at least once or twice a day, then you're, you're 779 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,280 living in a, you're living in a bubble, right? 780 00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:52,160 If all you hear is music to your ears and there's not a sour note 781 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,760 in there at some point in time, you're, you're missing out on 782 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,920 really, truly life's Joyce. Because how can you appreciate 783 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,960 anything if if you're not, you know, challenged on one or two 784 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,040 things a day? So. 785 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,960 The Durham report mentions the FBI lacked analytical rigor. 786 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,560 And they're, they're dealing with crossfire. 787 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,160 What he's talking about. And and that's that's what I 788 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:10,440 wanted to kind of hone in on the point. 789 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,480 This is not a universe or this is not a sorry a unique feature 790 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,240 to Crossfire Hurricane or headquarters based 791 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,680 investigations. It is it's now pervasive, I 792 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,840 think in the at least the FB is version of the Intel world. 793 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,720 And so when you don't have, when you don't have that analytical 794 00:38:25,720 --> 00:38:29,080 rigor, which is to stay vigorous debate on competing hypotheses 795 00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,800 as you mentioned, and you have it written in crayon, then you 796 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,320 don't get to the exculpatory information that you want to 797 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,760 have because nobody wants to bring a bad case, at least not 798 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:39,600 an honest operator. And I think many people do 799 00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:41,800 actually operate honestly. But if the culture and the rules 800 00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,200 are not set up in favor, then you get a problem with that. 801 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,840 It may not be related, but I'm curious, did you feel any kind 802 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:49,240 of kinship watching Marcus go up there? 803 00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:51,800 Obviously he was in sort of a, he was in an SOS role as opposed 804 00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,040 to the IA role, but also a Marine, you know, kind of, I 805 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,880 thought he represented himself very, very well. 806 00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,680 Is not someone who's done public speaking, you know, didn't 807 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,160 obviously look for that spotlight. 808 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,680 Did you you feel any kinship seeing that guy up there getting 809 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:09,000 getting hammered? And this is not criticism of 810 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,480 Marcus by any means. It was painful to watch the way 811 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:16,920 to watch a brother Marine was was treated someone who signed a 812 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,520 blank check and said, Hey, I'm I'm willing to give up my life 813 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,800 for for this country. It was just it was horrible. 814 00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,480 I'm sorry, after six years of college, I can't come up with 815 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,520 any better wording that, but it was just horrible. 816 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,560 It was offensive. It just it was cringe worthy to 817 00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:41,320 say the least. And when he very emotionally 818 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:47,000 warned the dangers of being a whistleblower going forward, if 819 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:51,080 someone listening to that wasn't moved, they're heartless. 820 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:54,040 And I'm about as close to heartless as you want to get. 821 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,200 And that was tough to watch. When you texted me last night, 822 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,960 you said, you know, delete this on read. 823 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:00,920 But but it moved me. That's what you meant. 824 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,560 I I was like something like what moved? 825 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,960 And then I went, oh, like it was an emotional movie moment. 826 00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:08,120 I think that was the case for for everybody who watched it. 827 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,240 A lot of people felt the same way about Garrett's testimony 828 00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,880 and, you know, knowing what happened to his family. 829 00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,240 But what happened to this? You know, nobody has heard Mark 830 00:40:15,240 --> 00:40:17,040 as a story. He's very, very humble and quiet 831 00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,000 about it. And I reached out to him last 832 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:20,480 night and I just said, you know, how you doing, buddy? 833 00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,560 Like we've never talked, but we're brothers in this in this 834 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,840 fight. And and as you know, like you, 835 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,800 when you experience the same conflict, sometimes you don't 836 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,120 have to have anything except the same background and experiences 837 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,160 to immediately connect to human beings like that. 838 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,000 So I right away felt like I was talking to to someone that I've 839 00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,120 known for a long time because he did the right thing in the right 840 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:38,240 way. And that makes him, you know, 841 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:42,120 that makes him one of one of me. I'm going to throw this up 842 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,000 there. I just threw it on the screen. 843 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,680 You can't see it, but I put up the, the gifts and go that we 844 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,760 have folks, we're raising money for Garrett and for Marcus. 845 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,760 We've had well over a quarter million views of this on the, on 846 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,600 the Twitter that has been pushed out there. 847 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,760 I have, I can't see how many on, on true social, but some of you 848 00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,680 have been incredibly generous. I've seen donations 5, you know, 849 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,920 $600,000, awesome, awesome, incredible. 850 00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:06,200 I think I'm going to tell you the thing I'm going to play a 851 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,960 quick little clip from Garrett. I think you should be able to 852 00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,320 hear this too. This is just kind of his opening 853 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,480 statement and then I'm going to let you know just because 854 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,520 Garrett's such a good dude. So bear with me for a second 855 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,160 here, George. We'll see if this YouTube does 856 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:16,360 it. I'm. 857 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,160 Sad. I'm disappointed and I'm angry 858 00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:21,600 that I have to be here to testify about the weaponization 859 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:25,240 of the FBI and DOJ, weaponization against not only 860 00:41:25,240 --> 00:41:27,720 its own employees, but against those institutions and 861 00:41:27,720 --> 00:41:30,040 individuals that are supposed to protect the American people. 862 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,560 I'm here today because even though I'm wrongfully suspended 863 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:36,360 from the FBI, I remain duty bound to the American people to 864 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,760 play my small role in rectifying these issues. 865 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,880 After all, I never swore an oath to the FBI. 866 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:43,960 I swore an oath to the Constitution. 867 00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,400 I'm. Going to cut it right there. 868 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,600 There's 5 minutes of that folks. It's on the give send go page. 869 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,160 It's give send go.com/kyle Serafin. 870 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,320 I saw the chair and put in the chat. 871 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,600 Thanks so much, Sharon. I appreciate that folks. 872 00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:55,840 That's Garrett O'boyle. He is a friend. 873 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,480 He is a suspendable. He is a very, very good man. 874 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,160 And here's something else that you'll know about Garrett. 875 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,840 Garrett also has not been paid in almost 300 days. 876 00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:05,760 Marcus has not been paid in over 400 days. 877 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,720 And so when I connected with Garrett last night and I 878 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:12,000 connected with Marcus, my first question was, is like, hey, how 879 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,080 are you guys doing financially? You know, where should we focus 880 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,280 our resources? Where can we direct our fire? 881 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,440 And the thing that Garrett told me was is look, I'm not going to 882 00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,000 lose my house and I'm not going to go hungry. 883 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:24,120 Help out Marcus. So I mentioned on the page that 884 00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:25,720 we're going to be helping both of their families. 885 00:42:25,720 --> 00:42:28,520 It's not going to be 5050 split. Garrett told me, give everything 886 00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:31,320 we make right now for the first month or so and let's dig Marcus 887 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,400 out of the hole. Marcus told me that he was 90 to 888 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,840 120 days away from just selling, you know, selling his house. 889 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,600 And he said, well, what would you do if you did that? 890 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:39,560 He goes, I don't know, be a gypsy, live in a, you know, live 891 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,880 in an RV. He's got little kids, you know, 892 00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:46,160 he's married and he's been doing this thing alone for over a 893 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,320 year. And for me, that's the big 894 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,360 tragedy of it because I've been trying to connect people. 895 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,200 You know, it's one thing to go through hell. 896 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,000 As long as you have your brothers with you, it's not 897 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,880 nearly the same hell as going through it alone. 898 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:57,960 And I think that we all kind of know how that feels. 899 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,200 He's been on his own, he's connected now. 900 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,600 I told him whether he likes it or not, he's a suspendable, He 901 00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,280 doesn't get a choice. We've adopted him. 902 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,680 We're taking him under. And right now it looks like the 903 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,160 give send go. And if you folks will bear with 904 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,560 me, I'm going to pull up the dashboard here. 905 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040 I just want to show you because I, I'm all about 100% 906 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:14,200 transparency when it comes to this kind of stuff. 907 00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,960 I want you to understand exactly what we're talking about, 908 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:18,400 George. You won't see it, but the 909 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,680 campaign dashboard right here, it shows that in the last 24 910 00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,840 hours, because this thing didn't have any donations during the 911 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:28,920 week prior to this hearing, the last 24 hours we've had 600, 912 00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:35,960 sorry, 762 donations and that's put us at $55,000. 913 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,120 That's going to be in that pot, $55,000 in 24 hours. 914 00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,720 That's an incredible outpouring of generosity for people. 915 00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:44,760 We're going to pull this guy. I'm not going to be able to fill 916 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,040 in the hole that he's that he's lost for the last year. 917 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,640 I'm sure of that. I know he made more money than 918 00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,000 that, but we're going to try to replenish it so that they are 919 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,360 not thinking about selling a house. 920 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,960 I don't want him to have to worry about that at all. 921 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,440 And as we mentioned about, I think I did this on Tracy Bean's 922 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,200 podcast, but we talked about Cash Patel supporting these 923 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,720 guys. Any chance you, you're a retired 924 00:44:03,720 --> 00:44:05,200 guy, you're a retired federal employee. 925 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,080 You made a decent salary. Any chance that you'd want to 926 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:10,200 change your federal salary and the, and the possibility of, of 927 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,200 being able to retire for like, you know, 3 or $4000 from a guy 928 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,000 named Cash Patel? Would that, would that do it for 929 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,560 you? Would that make you just 930 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,200 sacrifice your whole career? Yeah, I mean, I'm a Marine, so 931 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200 I'm not very good at math, so, but I can even figure that one 932 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:23,960 out. Yeah, No, it's. 933 00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,880 So sad. That's the talking point that 934 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:29,200 we're seeing on some of these very disingenuous leftist media. 935 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,000 They're like, oh, he's paid by, you know, a Trump associate. 936 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:35,520 Well, first of all, he's paid by a charity that a Trump associate 937 00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:37,720 created because he's a decent dude and he went through the 938 00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:41,240 whole Russiagate thing. We've got maybe a couple more 939 00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:42,800 minutes. I want to, I want to see if you 940 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,120 wouldn't mind giving me your rundown. 941 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,760 Have you read the Durham report, or at least some of the 942 00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,240 highlights out of it? I've read about, I've read the 943 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,400 executive summary and I'm about 1/3 through the the entire 944 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,240 report, OK. What's, let's just ask this 945 00:44:57,240 --> 00:44:58,840 because this is going to be interesting to people. 946 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:00,920 You don't work for the FBI anymore. 947 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,240 You don't have to read any of this stuff. 948 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,280 Why are you reading the Durham report, a 300 page, you know, 949 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,600 findings report from a special counsel? 950 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:14,640 Well, some of it actually captures my life experience with 951 00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,880 the Bureau and I'll get into that in a in a second. 952 00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,480 But I think anyone who cares about this country and cares 953 00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,880 about their children and their grandchildren, it's not going to 954 00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:26,840 just, it's not going to fix itself. 955 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:32,920 So Durham, I think, from what I've read, does a very good job 956 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:39,680 of calling out malpractice of federal law enforcement and the 957 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:44,640 Department of Justice. And unfortunately, because 958 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,080 Lyndon Johnson ended civics courses and I think in 1965, a 959 00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:53,880 lot of people don't understand just how this constitutional 960 00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:57,640 Republic works. They, you know, even some people 961 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:02,800 in our sphere adopt the mantra of democracy. 962 00:46:03,240 --> 00:46:05,720 They don't understand representative democracy. 963 00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:08,120 They don't understand proportional representation. 964 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:13,400 They understand very little. And so the Dorm report to 965 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:16,160 someone, and it's not a pejorative term, it just means 966 00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,400 that they lack knowledge. But if someone is ignorant of 967 00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:23,800 how our constitutional Republic is supposed to work, the dorm 968 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,360 report may have well been written in Swahili. 969 00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,920 It it makes no sense to them. That's right, they don't care. 970 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:33,120 And it's not because they're heartless and they don't care. 971 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,560 It's just they don't understand it. 972 00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,640 I think you're correct. Somebody mentioned in the chat 973 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:38,920 that this is just light reading for you. 974 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,600 And in some ways it probably is 'cause I know the density of the 975 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,280 kind of things you had to consume in your previous your 976 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:47,920 previous experience. But it, it's, it's showing that 977 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:52,360 constitutional crisis that we have when one supposedly a 978 00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,440 political executive agency, which is really hard for me to 979 00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,080 grasp. And I feel like they may even be 980 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,280 executive agencies in general. They're supposed to be more 981 00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,320 beholden to Congress so that there is a balance on it. 982 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560 And they're not right now because of the Administrative 983 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,560 Procedures Act and the fact that a lot of the stuff has been 984 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,680 subbed out and Congress has sort of given away their authorities 985 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:14,000 for the last 70 years. They these these agencies can't 986 00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:16,000 act the way that they're supposed to because they are now 987 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:19,080 instead of having 2 minders, 2 guardrails, a left and a right, 988 00:47:19,240 --> 00:47:21,880 they really only have the guardrail on the left. 989 00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:24,240 And they are pushing off into the right space right now, at 990 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:25,760 least today. But historically they've done 991 00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:26,920 the same thing on the opposite side. 992 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,080 I mean, we know the FBI has gone after the left in no uncertain 993 00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,800 terms. So it it just doesn't have that. 994 00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:37,280 True left and right boundary to keep it from from getting into 995 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,840 the dangerous sort of secret police range, which is where 996 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,480 we're dealing with right now, which is what these guys are 997 00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:42,800 doing, crafting elections like that. 998 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,480 Yeah, I'm but back-to-back onto the Durham report. 999 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:53,720 So one of the the instances that he talks about in the report is 1000 00:47:53,720 --> 00:47:58,160 the reopening of the Clinton Foundation and how that was 1001 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,400 shuttered. The investigation into the 1002 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:01,960 Clinton Foundation. Yes. 1003 00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,120 So that was being run by the US Attorney's office out in Utah. 1004 00:48:05,240 --> 00:48:08,760 Why they chose Utah I don't remember, but there were Bureau 1005 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,400 wide emails going out looking for SOS staff, operations 1006 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,080 specialists and intelligence analysts to assist with the 1007 00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,360 investigation. They could either go TDY to Utah 1008 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:24,560 or they could work from their, their Home Office and they were 1009 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,680 looking for specific skill sets, people with, you know, banking 1010 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:31,400 experience, monitoring money laundering, forensic accounting, 1011 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:36,240 those kinds of things. And over the months I did what 1012 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,640 any good interrogator would do. I established rapport with the 1013 00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,360 SIA who was organizing that and was basically, for lack of a 1014 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:48,680 better word, collecting just how the well the investigation was 1015 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,900 going. So recognizing that I have non 1016 00:48:51,900 --> 00:48:56,840 disclosure agreements, the investigation was going quite 1017 00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,840 well and then like someone defined. 1018 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:02,040 Quite well as in they were. They were getting the 1019 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,760 information that they were believing was. 1020 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:08,480 There, Yeah, they they had them, to use an artillery term, They 1021 00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,040 had the Clinton Foundation bracketed. 1022 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:11,880 They were ready to fire for effect. 1023 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,240 Do people know what that means? Folks in the chat? 1024 00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:17,840 Do you know what it means to have something bracketed? 1025 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,720 They've got, they've got the, you know, they know where the 1026 00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:22,840 target is because they've hit all the spots that are not the 1027 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:24,120 target but are around the target. 1028 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,840 Fire for a fact means they're actually going to try to 1029 00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:29,080 actually make an impact on the defined target. 1030 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:31,480 Now that they've found where the target is not sort of thing is 1031 00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:34,760 that is that. Just up to that point and 1032 00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:39,360 someone, I don't know who, I'm not going to speculate, pull the 1033 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,880 plug, that's it. And. 1034 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,400 The Durham report says that as much. 1035 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,600 Yes, yeah. So I've watched it happen in 1036 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,160 real time. So that's what I was talking 1037 00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:49,360 about regarding the Durham report. 1038 00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:54,040 And then the other thing that's not captured in the Durham 1039 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:57,880 report that I'm, I'm sure the people in the chat will 1040 00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,720 appreciate. But the anniversary just passed 1041 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,480 for the takedown of the Bin Laden compound and there was an 1042 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:09,640 IC wide e-mail that went out looking for intelligence 1043 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,960 analysts to get down to NCTC and and basically down to the DC 1044 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:18,160 area, people with language abilities to exploit all this 1045 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,480 is, it's called pocket litter for lack of a better term, but 1046 00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,080 it's electronic media. And we're talking electronic 1047 00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,520 media. We're talking cell phones, thumb 1048 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:31,280 drives, laptops, desktops, the whole gambit. 1049 00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,720 So they took the treasure trove? Yeah. 1050 00:50:33,720 --> 00:50:36,120 This is the sensitive exploitation stuff. 1051 00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,760 This is the s s, ES and then NTSC. 1052 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:40,600 That's the National Terrorist Screening Center, correct? 1053 00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:41,680 Which is in Northern Virginia, right? 1054 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:47,160 OK, For three to four weeks they were clamoring. 1055 00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:48,480 Send us people. Send us people. 1056 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:52,880 And then it just stopped. Has anybody seen? 1057 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,000 I know I that was a long time ago that bin Laden was taken 1058 00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,880 down. I never saw one intelligence 1059 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:02,400 product at any classification level from all the stuff they 1060 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,920 pulled out of there. So, and I was the national 1061 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:11,120 security supervisor for the FBII had the counterterrorism program 1062 00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,680 amongst, you know, between and cyber and CI as well as the 1063 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,320 Boston Marathon bombing task force. 1064 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,960 So I would have had a pretty good optic on if there was any 1065 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,800 reporting that came out of that up to the TSSCI level. 1066 00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,400 Never saw anything. Who pulled the plug on that? 1067 00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,080 Why do they? Yeah. 1068 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,200 Why do you attribute that to? Because here's the thing, we're 1069 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:30,440 we're in a speculative role right now. 1070 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,440 So you're not going to be disclosing anything that you 1071 00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,080 shouldn't. This is just two guys talking 1072 00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,400 about what we think may have happened. 1073 00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:41,080 What do you believe led to that? That sort of information 1074 00:51:41,080 --> 00:51:43,400 blackout even at the TSSCI level? 1075 00:51:44,600 --> 00:51:47,560 Evidence of bad policy decisions, countries that we 1076 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,680 partnered with that we shouldn't have partnered with. 1077 00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:53,960 And I'm not going in there because I actually do have first 1078 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,800 hand knowledge of that at working at the other place. 1079 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,840 But we we got in bed with some people that we should that from 1080 00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:06,760 a political standpoint would not bode well for any administration 1081 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:08,320 that. Makes sense so. 1082 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:10,720 I it's in my estimation, that's all it is. 1083 00:52:10,720 --> 00:52:12,000 I don't have first hand knowledge. 1084 00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:14,800 I'm not giving anything away in my estimation. 1085 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,240 It's an educated guess. That's all it is, is that it's 1086 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:23,760 politically unpalatable to have continued exploiting that 1087 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,000 captured material. So, so crazy. 1088 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:29,880 I like the term pocket litter. That's a, that's a basic law 1089 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,920 enforcement thing that I think the military adopted when they 1090 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,720 started exploiting locations. Folks, pocket litter was like 1091 00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,440 literally, it used to be what was in your pockets. 1092 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,200 They'd turn it out and they'd find like, oh, he has a bus 1093 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:40,920 ticket here and you know, it's not lint, but it's, you know, 1094 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,520 he's got some coins and he's got a token from this machine. 1095 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:45,520 So you could actually find out a lot of things about people back 1096 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:47,560 in the day before everybody carried everything on the cell 1097 00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:48,680 phone. But what they carried in their 1098 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,240 pockets, they had a key to a safety deposit box around their 1099 00:52:51,240 --> 00:52:54,360 neck and they had, you know, little receipts and things like 1100 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,560 that. So that used to be the story. 1101 00:52:55,720 --> 00:52:57,560 It's funny how some of the words that actually, they don't have 1102 00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,840 any basis in our modern society anymore, but we still use them 1103 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,840 like receipts, you know, like, did you bring the receipts? 1104 00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,120 It's like, well, we used to actually have to go get receipts 1105 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,080 to find out whether or not there wasn't like an electronic 1106 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,680 record. Either there was paper or it was 1107 00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:10,720 gone. Let's go to the videotape. 1108 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,080 Nobody's videoing anything anymore. 1109 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:14,640 Nobody. Is videoing anything at all? 1110 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,360 It actually has a meaning. It's very funny. 1111 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,600 Yeah. And and we're going to tape an 1112 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,800 interview is the other kind of like there's a lot of vestiges 1113 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,800 of the analog society that continues to go on. 1114 00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,440 I feel very blessed to live in the time frame that I did and it 1115 00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,160 gives me the ability to connect and talk to guys like you 1116 00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:30,200 because I know what you're talking about. 1117 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:33,080 I, I lived it as a child up until I was probably about 20. 1118 00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:36,680 And then a lot of people that are younger right now, you teach 1119 00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:37,680 college. How weird is that? 1120 00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,000 Do they? They don't want to have any 1121 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,240 experience, but they still use words. 1122 00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:43,440 They don't even know what. They mean sometimes I have to 1123 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,440 translate just a real funny story because I I think it is. 1124 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:50,040 It captures it well. So a gentleman I served with in 1125 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:55,160 my reserve unit was getting his PhD from MIT. 1126 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,960 So he wasn't very bright, but none the less he was struggling 1127 00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,880 and getting through. I'm being facetious. 1128 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:05,840 And he was teaching class and he made-up Monty Python and Holy 1129 00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,720 Grail reference. And this is in the early 2000s. 1130 00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,640 And the class looked at him like, what? 1131 00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,240 And he said, I'm not that much older than you. 1132 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,400 And that was required viewing when I was at MIT. 1133 00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,560 Yeah. So it's just it's funny how 1134 00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:28,200 things move in and out of current vernacular, but some 1135 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,160 things remain. And I'd have to say that I 1136 00:54:31,240 --> 00:54:33,240 think, you know, there's sometimes I have to educate my 1137 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:35,320 students. So when I tell them when they're 1138 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:38,520 writing to just Joe Friday it I have to go to YouTube, Thank 1139 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:42,200 you, YouTube or Rumble. And I can bring up old dragnet 1140 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,600 clips and just, you know, put up Joe Friday up there. 1141 00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:47,240 Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts. 1142 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:50,760 So, people. Don't have a concept of it even 1143 00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:51,600 though they use things like this. 1144 00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,160 I love it when I hear someone use a expression from a movie 1145 00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:55,920 and then you mention what movie it's from and they didn't know 1146 00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:57,960 it was from a movie. So they'll do the Monty Python 1147 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,080 thing where they'll go like run away, run away and you're like 1148 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,640 oh that's the Knights who say knee and they go the what? 1149 00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,280 And I go it's Monty Python and the holy. 1150 00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:06,840 You're literally quoting a movie that is quite famous for a scene 1151 00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,480 where the Knights yell run away and you don't even know it. 1152 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:11,960 My buddy used to always do the holy hand grenade. 1153 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,920 Do you remember that one? Remember, take us thou, take us, 1154 00:55:16,240 --> 00:55:19,680 thou Holy Hand Grenade. Oh Lord, bless this, thy holy 1155 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,280 Hand Grenade. May it blow thine enemies to 1156 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:24,920 small, small bits. And all of the following. 1157 00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:27,120 He used to do that all the time, and I didn't know what it was 1158 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:28,840 and I had to go watch it. And so every once in a while, 1159 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,760 whenever I think about my buddy Nate, I'll go watch the Holy 1160 00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:32,880 Hand Grenade. And I'm like, why did Nathan of 1161 00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:34,800 all people? Because he's the most nonviolent 1162 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,680 person you've ever met. He's the nicest human being. 1163 00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:39,560 He's the sweetest man in my life, has always been. 1164 00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:42,160 I told his wife when they got married, This is a weird thing 1165 00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:44,400 to tell somebody's wife. I said, if Nate had been a girl 1166 00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,520 and even an ugly one, I probably would have married him. 1167 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,920 She's like, what do I do with that? 1168 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:51,040 I'm like, nothing. You haven't just told you. 1169 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,040 He's my best buddy. He's just, he's an incredibly 1170 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,480 good human being. And he loved the Holy Hand 1171 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:58,560 grenade, maybe because it made fun of the idea of blowing 1172 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:00,440 enemies to small, small bits. I think that was the bit that 1173 00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,600 made him, you know, cut a go. In a holy and pious manner 1174 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,360 though, so it's OK. Correct. 1175 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,120 Yes, it was a it was a weapon that was, it was still, it was a 1176 00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,000 dumb bomb, but it was a dumb bomb that was blessed by the 1177 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:11,200 Lord. And there you go. 1178 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,080 To get rid of the whole, the enemies of the, of the almighty. 1179 00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:17,880 Pretty silly stuff, folks. We're right up on the line here. 1180 00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,040 So we've made it through an hour. 1181 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:20,720 I, I hope we've shared some information with you. 1182 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880 Some of this stuff is going to be government overreach, which 1183 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:26,000 George is always a good sort of source. 1184 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,000 On I'm I'm 2 minutes late for another Skype call. 1185 00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:30,960 Well, is that because we're going to go talk to our friend 1186 00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,160 Emerald? Yeah. 1187 00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:34,760 They'll wait for us. They know. 1188 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,760 I told them she couldn't figure out she was struggling with the 1189 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,880 numbers that we were talking about. 1190 00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,320 So we're going to be all right. You're late because I'm late. 1191 00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,480 And they I told them that they were not going to get us right 1192 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,560 at the moment of thanks for sharing your expertise. 1193 00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:51,640 The thing I love about George people and you, you can tell 1194 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,080 this from talk, listening to him talk. 1195 00:56:53,240 --> 00:56:56,080 He's incredibly organized and he's going to like he stays on 1196 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,480 task and topic and me, I'm like chasing cats. 1197 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:01,960 My brain is constantly and it whatever is interesting to me is 1198 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:03,840 where I go. It makes this podcast fun when I 1199 00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,640 have people that that lock in on something very easy. 1200 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,120 We're going to do a quick little read of a five star review 1201 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,880 because you are listening to this show here, George. 1202 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,640 I'm going to switch back to my main camera. 1203 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,600 You've been listening to the Kyle Seraphin show. 1204 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,920 You can find us on Apple, as many of you know, you can find 1205 00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,480 us on Spotify on iHeartRadio. You can always find us on Rumble 1206 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,800 when we are doing it live, which we may have to do something kind 1207 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:27,520 of funky in the next couple days because I'm going to be going to 1208 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,000 hang out with Steve Friend in person and we're probably going 1209 00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,600 to do some tape interviews. We're going to be spending our 1210 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:34,200 days working on a movie set, which will be in a new 1211 00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,840 experience probably for him and kind of a fun experience for me. 1212 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,960 Again, it's been a while since I worked at Warner Brothers. 1213 00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:41,440 If you want to leave us a five star review and you enjoy it, 1214 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,880 here's one that you can try to emulate. 1215 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,360 We're at 459. Let's see if we can get that 1216 00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:48,400 thing up to 500 maybe by the the end. 1217 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,280 The end of the month would be amazing. 1218 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:52,800 You all are doing a great job putting them up here. 1219 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,040 So this is from Steve K not K9. K 09. 1220 00:57:57,560 --> 00:58:00,280 Put it in the other day said would this pass as a movie 1221 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:02,440 script? I found you by way of your first 1222 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:04,520 long form interview on Dan Von Gino's podcast. 1223 00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,920 I have no background in law, however I've always wanted to 1224 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,480 know the stories. Beg the question, Sorry, know 1225 00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,680 the stories. I have no idea what he wrote 1226 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,400 there. Beg the stories. 1227 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:18,120 You're killing me, Steve, you got a you got a Proofread your 1228 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,120 comments, y'all that says what you share every week and rages 1229 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:23,920 and encourages me to know that our government, moreover, their 1230 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,840 bureaucracy would manipulate laws. 1231 00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,080 Scary. And at the same time, there are 1232 00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:28,760 many voices that are more prominent than my own, taking 1233 00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:30,760 steps to explain and expose the malfeasance. 1234 00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,720 So I applaud you. To be honest, many of the 1235 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,320 stories in the interviews and scripts are many interviews 1236 00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:37,600 sound like movie scripts that would get passed on by studios. 1237 00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,160 So much hold my beer that the common men like myself would 1238 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,320 never admit to trying shaking my head. 1239 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,720 There is a lot of awful stuff that goes on the government with 1240 00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,840 the hold my beer attitude that says keep up the good work. 1241 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:50,800 Someday there will be a suspendable film celebrating all 1242 00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,320 the achievements of this amazing group. 1243 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:58,280 We're going to have a a George Clooney play, George Hill, no 1244 00:58:58,280 --> 00:58:59,960 doubt about it. That's who has to come in and 1245 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,040 make that happen. He always tells me he's got the 1246 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:04,440 face for radio, or maybe not even. 1247 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:07,880 And that's why we're going to have to get a salty, you know, 1248 00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:10,880 distinguished muzzle. We have to dress things up for 1249 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,600 the film. I want Bradley Cooper to play 1250 00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,040 me. We've already decided this, 1251 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,560 folks. Thanks so much for tuning in for 1252 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:16,360 our live stream. Thanks. 1253 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:18,360 For those of you who have been in the chat, someone mentioned 1254 00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:21,120 to me that replicator, the food replicator is what they used on 1255 00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:22,840 the Star Trek Enterprise to get the food. 1256 00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,960 That's why you're there. You guys are there at the Fact 1257 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:27,520 Check me and help me understand the things that I forget from 1258 00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,760 great pop culture 'cause my brain is like a bag of cats at 1259 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:33,600 the moment. We will see you again on Monday. 1260 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,120 I'm working on setting up a long form interview. 1261 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,160 It may be a little bit late on Monday 'cause I think it might 1262 00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:38,800 be with Steve friend. We're going to be hanging out 1263 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,120 together. Also a couple of Project Veritas 1264 00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:43,600 whistleblower is going to be in the area and we may be doing it 1265 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:45,600 with them. So don't be surprised if we see 1266 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,680 some new voices in here, folks that I've hung out with and I 1267 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,000 think you're going to really appreciate it. 1268 00:59:49,640 --> 00:59:52,360 See you soon, folks. Have a wonderful weekend and 1269 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,320 thank you for all the wonderful support you've been showing the 1270 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:59,320 suspendables, especially Garrett and our new friend Marcus Allen. 1271 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,520 Thanks for listening to the Kyle Seraphin show. 1272 01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:08,880 Be sure to follow him on Twitter and Truth at Kyle Seraphin.