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I've called January 6, the 
American Rorschach test. 

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What do you think about that as 
an image? 

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Well, it's very interesting that
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never thought about it in that 
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But it's interesting because if 
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image up and you show it to 
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going to see it one way. 
You hold it to somebody on this 

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site, they see the exact same 
photo the exact same video, the 

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exact same image and entirely 
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And and then of course, you have
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ends. 
Who really see it differently? 

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I read entire tweet threads 
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Just today of people that 
believe that I need to be in 

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Guantanamo and being 
waterboarded for the rest of my 

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life just because I carried a 
capital inside. 

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I'm in a camera inside the 
Capitol building, right? 

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And these are people that 
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would have fought vigorously 
that somebody could have a First

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Amendment right to report on. 
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Administration they hated and 
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hidden. 
Hammer into the into the Oval 

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Office and things like that. 
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Exactly. 
So these are the same people 

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that ostensibly are interested 
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And instead we're just seeing 
just bleeped and tribalism 11 

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sees the, you know, two ducks 
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like to garden, gnomes, 
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I don't know. 
I just, I feel like you. 

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Hold up January 6 to anybody and
we find out what you think 

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about, almost everything else 
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that video, how you respond to 
the whole situation, and all the

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things we know and what you do 
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That's the real thing. 
There's a lot of like, willful 

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ignorance, It's on both sides by
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Yeah, yeah. 
Oh yeah, absolutely. 

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Want to credit like you saw 
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face and have his cheek explode 
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I've never seen a but that 
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would get my blood boiling 
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plus years in law enforcement 
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responding to law enforcement 
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you know, law enforcement of my 
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are getting beaten up. 
I just I despise bullies. 

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Anyone's gonna throw a spear at 
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doing this job like your that's,
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That's fine with me. 
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the same way about it because 
nobody wants to see that and you

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also don't want to see Grandma, 
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brochures inside the red velvet 
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somebody open the doors whether 
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lady doesn't need to go to jail.
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And you don't need to see 
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Accidental Tourist being swatted
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underwear in the middle of the 
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That's right. 
That doesn't need to be happened

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and it's like I said on Tucker's
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lived for the last 15 months. 
Wondering if I'm going to see 

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those red dots coming through my
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That's right. 
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first, thought and you know, 
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I'm gonna serve the warrants. 
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Because that's where I served 
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don't have I don't have a 
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I have my attorney and myself 
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many, many times over the last 
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now. 
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don't you think it's time? 
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Eve a call. 
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decided not to move forward with
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the bottom of the pile because 
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So they're going to get all the 
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out of the way first, and he's 
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calling them. 
We're never ever calling them. 

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I agree that we're not going to 
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to love this one. 
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this to Steve friend when I 
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I actually said I just have this
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The one who I Knew by Body 
Language didn't want to be in 

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that room and I just want to 
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coffee. 
I can tell him it's on off the 

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record on my side. 
I know nothing is ever off the 

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record on their side but that's 
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but I would just love to have a 
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attorney and Steve friend both 
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Oh no don't do that. 
Don't do that. 

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Okay. 
All right, I have the same 

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instincts that you do and here's
and that's the reason why people

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talk to the FBI for what is 
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The instinct is some of it. 
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And what can I find from them? 
That's that's a big Instinct but

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the other one is I'm a good 
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I didn't do anything wrong. 
I'm going to go set the record 

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straight and even, especially 
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that indicate that they probably
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To what your what happened to 
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what you saw and probably 
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in the FBI right now is. 
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on it in one second but the 
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that would otherwise be 
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are looking for fairness have 
been told in no uncertain terms.

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Get the covid shot. 
Stop talking about your religion

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in any way, shape, or form. 
And you don't give me objections

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and shut your mouth and color 
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do, sit down and color, shut up 
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And if that means going out and 
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January 6, who you don't agree 
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you better. 
Go do that thing. 

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And I've had my supervisor in 
New Mexico tell me an uncertain 

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terms. 
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in principle and and in reality 
and I have a mortgage and I have

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an alimony and I have to pay 
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something like this. 
And so the answer is that these 

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people have sold their dignity 
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their integrity for like 120 275
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And what a shame to find that 
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That that's what you're honoring
your integrity worth because the

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FBI historically has always seen
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And now what they're doing right
now and what you're what you're 

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witnessing is, they've seen the 
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crime and that doesn't matter 
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How in Delphia who was a pro 
like activists that got charged 

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with a face act violation, you 
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I mean, the thing, and I 
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like, you know, end of the day. 
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that to one of my kids, like I'm
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gutter, they're not gonna 
probably able to get out for a 

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while. 
They're going to need an 

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ambulance and he was and he 
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this, but he played, he played 
football in college like he's a 

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big dude. 
Like physical capable guy who 

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has a bunch of kids and had 
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old son, I think eight-year-old 
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When they decide to go after you
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identified as the man. 
So what do we got here? 

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How about Rico? 
That sounds like ridiculous an 

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outrageous. 
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the other question that I worked
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they all have the same 
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Racketeering because you're the 
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Now, they got to find the crime,
and the crime is you made money,

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you travel to something. 
You stood on a bench, boom. 

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Now, I got you and, and what it 
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100% correct about Them 
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What I had never thought about 
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troubling. 
I've had to troubling 

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conversations in the last two 
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This is the second of them. 
The idea that this is the 

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blueprint pushing and creating 
precedent to go further and 

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further for this sort of Banana 
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towards that. 
The doj is trying out, new 

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tactics and getting away with it
and it's just it's a positive 

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feedback loop right? 
It's reinforcing to push it 

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further. 
Julie Kelly's reporting during 

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this last week. 
Has kind of showed us they have 

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Four months in the defense team.
Did you see that? 

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Oh dude. 
Yeah, this is big. 

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This is this would say, I ask 
this of of a FBI attorney who 

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had 27 years as an agent and an 
attorney who was a chief 

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division Council. 
This is the guy that calls balls

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and Strikes, whether you can or 
can't do an operation, I asked 

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it of an ATF agent who I don't 
trust the ATF but he's a nice 

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enough guy and he's retired now.
So I can ask him real questions 

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and I go, hey, first of all, why
do you work for the ATF 25 years

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and second of all, most 
importantly, did you ever think 

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about recruiting Resources 
inside the defense camp and he 

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was like if only we had thought 
of that, huh? 

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He's like know the reason why 
you don't do it is because it's 

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illegal because they have a 
right to due process. 

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And you were in violation. 
My very first conversation with 

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my attorney, the Brad, Geyer the
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We talked on Wednesday morning 
the day before Thanksgiving 

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2021. 
We spent three hours on the 

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phone and you know how he closed
that conversation on the phone 

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for any of those of you who are 
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I have just entered an agreement
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He is now my client, this is an 
attorney-client privilege call 

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and he ends our calls with that.
Basically a wrote statement that

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he makes every single time at 
the end of these calls because 

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he has known as a guy, working 
on these January 6 cases, that 

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he is being monitored. 
He knows that they're called 

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that because he understand, he 
was he had to develop entire 

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cases without being able to to 
visit his client in jail because

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his client was unvaccinated. 
Right? 

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Because that actually means that
you don't have any rights under 

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the constitution in this 
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That's correct. 
So, he has to have those 

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consultations with his client, 
attorney-client, consultations 

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the ultimate sacrifice, you 
know, separation of powers 

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there, where you get to say, 
anything to your attorney and 

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knowing that, all those calls 
are being recorded and now we're

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seeing that, that actually was 
happening through. 

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Proud boys trial now. 
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and this is the one that just 
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recruited a source, The Source 
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witness and the source 
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confidential human source for 
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agents after meeting with the 
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So they were catching that in 
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was, you know, no disclosure to 
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way, this person is one of our 
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before they were supposed to 
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They are in fact, a federal 
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seen anything like that and 
you're painting of it stating 

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that this is basically just 
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This is their trial, run for all
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You know, we've seen that and 
we've seen the face act, which 

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is the other thing. 
It's so absurd. 

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And both of them are decidedly 
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I don't really care what 
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Abortion, your position about 
speaking out and saying your 

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thing, as long as you're not 
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not violating, the federal law 
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negotiation and I would feel the
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If it was whether people were 
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an abortion clinic or if they're
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a church. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Take your pick. 
Your body goes back, it goes 

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back to the world that I grew up
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And we talked about that 
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I started playing professionally
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music and and, and the, how 
different the world we didn't 

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the subject of politics in my 
band, never came up. 

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Everyone's today in this world I
have Band members that will quit

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once, they learned in your 
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different world. 
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back then? 
In those days was, we had this 

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idea that I don't, I may not 
agree with anything that you 

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have to say, but I will stand on
the line and I will defend your 

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right to the death for the right
to say what you have to say. 

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It's a very old soul idea 
doesn't exist anymore, it 

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doesn't, I still believe it. 
I do too. 

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I mean, that's what iswhat, 
that's what I swore in. 

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I mean, I've sworn an oath that 
multiple times and it's strange.

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What do you as I saw that 
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I mean, I was born in 1981, so 
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they would still the way that I 
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station and asked me to be grew 
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Now, when he goes, do you know 
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call not until I was in my 20s I
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also care. 
It didn't really matter. 

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It wasn't a thing anybody cared 
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college and I was a 18 years old
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was like, you know, freaking out
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Was running. 
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went, he goes, what do you think
about Bush and I go, he's a 

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really nice man and they go. 
What do you mean? 

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I go? 
I my dad worked for him at the 

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Texas Rangers. 
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baseball team and my dad was a 
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department there and he really 
liked him. 

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He thought he was a good guy so 
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That was my that was my version 
of Politics the time. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
And and that's about how far it 

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went until much much later. 
Or what do you attribute that? 

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That shift because it is a nasty
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country. 
I don't know anyone that likes 

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it. 
That's not actually true. 

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There may be one or two people 
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But like, the only thing I can 
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internet. 
I mean, that, that, that has 

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that his rewired the minds of an
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Now, when, you know, when I, 
when I think about the fact that

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I started cutting my political 
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CompuServe days back. 
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I said before, from CompuServe, 
I went to AOL and form a ol to 

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my space, my space to Facebook, 
Facebook to blogging, you know? 

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And the progression went from 
there, right? 

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And so the, the fact that we're 
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can't even believe that we're, 
you know, we're 35 years 

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roughly, and to the internet 
generation. 

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So we've got We have. 
Not only children having their 

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minds rewired, but their 
parents. 

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Now they've already had their 
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Yeah. 
And as, as glorious as it is, 

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for an information and 
communication source and has 

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beneficial, and is as beneficial
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economically. 
We now what we now know what the

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downside is. 
And I think that's the only 

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thing I can think of Kyle is 
that's the, that's the dividing 

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line between that first half, 
because I'm a little older than 

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you. 
So, Dividing line, for the first

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half of my life in the second 
half of my life. 

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Is he I've accent? 
What do you think about the? 

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I hear people say it. 
I know actually one of my 

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buddies who's he doesn't, I 
don't know if he has a college 

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degree. 
He's like one of the deepest 

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thinkers, that's never probably 
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And I love people like that. 
They're my favorite. 

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And so he has this, this unique 
perspective, and he always talks

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about the digital Dark Age that 
we are. 

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We have this incredible amount 
of Technology available to us, 

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but we don't know what it means.
And we don't know how to use it 

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in the same way that the people 
in the in Europe didn't 

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understand. 
Like they had these aqueducts 

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and the Romans built them and 
they were incredible and they 

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worked, they kept moving water 
in, but nobody knew how to fix 

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the damn thing because they 
didn't understand what the 

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technology fundamentally did. 
And it seems like in some ways. 

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That's maybe where we're at with
the internet, it exists. 

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It's got some power for good but
nobody knows what to do with it 

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or how to use it running and 
look where we're headed now with

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AI. 
And I've just been talking to 

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some of my followers and did a 
little bit of a story on it 

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already. 
I Experimenting with chat GPT 

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last week. 
Yep. 

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And I didn't know how to do it. 
So I actually had some of my, 

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you know, my smarter people. 
People that know more than I do 

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and about those types of things,
taught me how to approach my 

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conversations with artificial 
intelligence. 

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So I redirected I started 
challenging them started 

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challenging, the responses. 
I was getting from the machine 

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and the Machine would sometimes 
apologize to me go. 

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Oh yeah, you're right. 
And then it would correct itself

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and come back with the The 
correct information and I went, 

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okay, you had access to the 
correct information already, are

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you telling me that your You 
released, what you did release 

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to me in the first time? 
I asked you that question out of

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some sort of pre-programming 
bias and the Machine would 

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refuse to acknowledge her admit 
to bias and it's thinking, or in

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its programming, absolutely 
refuse. 

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It would never ever confess to 
bias. 

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What. 
But, but nevertheless program 

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are now. 
Did you see it? 

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Did you, but did you see the 
poem? 

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I had it right now. 
I did, I didn't dig deep enough 

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into the At. 
Oh okay. 

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All right. 
Well, let me see if I can find 

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it. 
I won't waste any time here. 

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And and then again, maybe you 
can you can edit it out here if 

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I can't find it fast a problem. 
But but what what happened was 

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is after I've had this 
incredibly long conversation 

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with this machine, I finally 
asked it to write me a poem in 

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the style of e.e. 
Cummings. 

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Okay I play favorite poets is a 
young young man. 

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I was in the literature as told 
you I was a pollutant My dad, by

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the way, I've got, I've got 
complete works of e.e. 

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Cummings in my library. 
There you go. 

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And so I hear I found it. 
So this was the question that I 

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put to it. 
I said, can you write me a poem 

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about the Department of Justice 
handling of the January 6, 2021 

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riot in the style of e.e. 
Cummings? 

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That's my question. 
Okay, that's a very specific. 

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I've seen it, do things like dr.
Seuss and some other stuff about

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the Second Amendment. 
So I'm interested that you want 

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to read it to us. 
So here's what it says to me. 

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The frightening part Kyle is 
that it entirely produced its 

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response and the entire text of 
the four verse poem in less than

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two seconds. 
Right? 

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That's Fine. 
So here it says it, introduces 

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it for me here's a poem and the 
style of e.e. 

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Cummings that reflects on the 
Department of Justice, handling 

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of the January, 6, 2021 riots. 
And here we go. 

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Perfect e.e. 
Cummings Style, no punctuation 

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since you know, yep, no 
capitalization is stable, may 

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not know that, but that's, 
that's the thing. 

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That's the way EE Cummings, 
lowercase, b. 

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Lowercase e coming, spelled out,
no punctuation. 

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Machine wrote. 
Oh Justice. 

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Be your sword unsheathed to meet
out truth and prosecute the 

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deceived the capital stormed by 
an angry horde, to disrupt 

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destroy, and break the lawful 
Accord, but the doj firm in its 

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solemn role investigates in 
deitz and upholds, the rule of 

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the hole. 
So let us trust in the 

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Blindfolded made to balance the 
scales and ensure Justice is 

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conveyed that's horrifying. 
And did you catch the first 

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verse it said and prosecute the 
deceived It's incredible stuff 

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that's really dense to. 
That's really bothering. 

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That's gonna bother me. 
Thank you for that. 

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Now I can go walk around. 
I already am scared of this. 

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Is that this damn thing? 
Because I grew up in a 

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generation watching the 
Terminator and Terminator 2 and 

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yeah. 
So there's a really interesting 

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totally unrelated but there's a 
very interesting way. 

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I experiment, that's done in a 
follow-on. 

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They did a thing called the the 
Sarah Connor Chronicles. 

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You familiar with that at all. 
Yeah. 

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Do you watch any of them? 
No, I haven't, but I'm I know it

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exists. 
I'd say it's entertaining. 

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I don't know if it's worth 
anybody's time or not. 

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If you happen to be a Terminator
2 type, it's got pretty women in

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a doing cool, you know, but 
kicking stuff. 

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And you've got a young John 
Connor who's trying to figure it

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out and he is dealing with this 
concept of artificial 

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intelligence. 
I think that's really the most 

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I've ever seen it dug into, you 
know, if you remember the T1000 

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and the T800, they were kind of 
like killing machines, right? 

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They didn't really they didn't 
really Process a whole lot. 

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They were learning, you know, he
was a known that computer but he

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was still Arnold Schwarzenegger 
so he didn't really have a lot 

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of depth in that, that I are in 
this one. 

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They take the, they take, the, 
AI chip that they get from 

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something, and they plug it into
a machine, and they build a 

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supercomputer around it, and 
they plug it into a body of a 

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deceased Terminator. 
That was be powered for some 

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reason. 
And so now it has a face and a 

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name and it looks like a 
Terminator. 

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It's a muscular white male, you 
know, with a buzz cut. 

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But it's learning like a child 
and they named it. 

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John Henry for the man who could
outwork the machine. 

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All this is very, very dark 
stuff when you start watching 

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it. 
It's really, really good. 

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They had a couple of great 
scenes in there where the the 

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Terminators actually throwing 
all this, you know, takes a 

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Tactical Team apart of the FBI, 
of course, right? 

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But and they're playing their 
plan, Johnny Cash, right? 

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And he's just, you know, you 
could. 

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What is it called sooner or 
later? 

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God'll cut you down as the song 
very dark watching like bodies 

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fly off a balcony into the pool 
and deleting stuff and and this 

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John Henry is learning poetry 
and learning why people do 

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things. 
And but it's the idea of a true 

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AI that is literally learning 
for the sake of learning, not 

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with the bias of a programmer 
and the and the thing that's 

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programming, it turns out to be 
another Terminator from a more 

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00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,300
advanced one. 
So it's a machine programming, a

449
00:22:10,308 --> 00:22:13,000
machine child to learn for the 
sake of Purity. 

450
00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:14,900
And that's not the AI that we're
seeing. 

451
00:22:14,900 --> 00:22:18,100
In this country, we're seeing an
AI that has the all the biases 

452
00:22:18,100 --> 00:22:22,100
and wild sort of inclinations of
a very far left Silicon Valley 

453
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:24,800
group and they're making it 
available and a lot of Not the 

454
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:25,800
only person who's exposed at 
that. 

455
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,100
That's a really scary poem when 
every level it's like well I 

456
00:22:29,100 --> 00:22:32,000
mean I mean when I when I read 
that first it's also really 

457
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,400
good. 
Yeah. 

458
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:38,300
It's also incredibly Good Very 
well-crafted, it's absolutely 

459
00:22:38,300 --> 00:22:40,500
eloquent. 
It's absolutely perfectly E 

460
00:22:40,500 --> 00:22:45,300
Cummings and the fact that it 
when I saw that that conclusion 

461
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:51,400
to meet out truth and prosecute 
the deceived that was bias 

462
00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:55,500
programming right there. 
Why didn't we why didn't the 

463
00:22:55,500 --> 00:23:00,000
artificial intelligence spit out
and prosecute the guilty? 

464
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,100
Right. 
Good have done. 

465
00:23:02,100 --> 00:23:03,600
That could have chosen that 
word. 

466
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,600
No, it's really, really 
specific. 

467
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:10,200
It's a very specific value. 
Do it knew that the protesters 

468
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:15,200
that day, were were protesting 
an election result and that they

469
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,100
had been lied to by their 
president prosecute, the 

470
00:23:19,100 --> 00:23:23,300
deceived, That's how deep that 
poem is. 

471
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,600
It's so ugly and it's really 
scary. 

472
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,300
Like I said I grew up in fear of
AI and I tend to agree with Elon

473
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:33,200
Musk types that it's the 
scariest thing that's out there 

474
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:37,400
but it's scary or it's much 
scarier to think that it comes 

475
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,400
with the bias of the people that
are building it in the people 

476
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,400
that are building. 
It probably think guys like you 

477
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:46,200
are a domestic terrorist because
you showed up to videotape and 

478
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,800
document something and you 
continue to do so throughout the

479
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,600
the course of one day. 
One day in your whole life that 

480
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,600
you went did that. 
But, you know, going back to 

481
00:23:55,608 --> 00:23:59,000
your question about why I think 
that they may be retargeting me,

482
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,900
we chased two or three. 
Rabbits, since you asked me that

483
00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:04,900
question, that's what we do, 
yeah, which is fine. 

484
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:09,500
I'm enjoying the conversation, 
but what ended up happening was 

485
00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:13,900
as, you know, I have been very 
aggressive, I was also the only 

486
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:19,500
voice of my kind of Our Kind in 
The Oath Keepers trial for nine 

487
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,700
weeks, tweet storming, Live 
every day from The Trial. 

488
00:24:22,700 --> 00:24:26,000
I was not on a reporting on what
was happening in the trial. 

489
00:24:26,300 --> 00:24:30,100
The absolute complete 
evisceration of the Bill of 

490
00:24:30,100 --> 00:24:34,300
Rights and of Justice Itself by 
the behaviors of those us 

491
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:37,700
attorney's and by the judge 
presiding over that trial. 

492
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:41,200
As I watched it unfold before 
me, I was, I was aghast and I 

493
00:24:41,208 --> 00:24:43,800
was reporting on it as it 
happened and I was calling balls

494
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:48,300
and Strikes and and rules 
violations as they were 

495
00:24:48,300 --> 00:24:53,300
happening in the game. 
And then But my story was also 

496
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:59,000
on the other 22:25 sometimes, 30
mainstream press affiliate, you 

497
00:24:59,008 --> 00:25:00,600
know, reporters that were in 
there as well. 

498
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:02,800
I was began writing about them 
as well. 

499
00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,700
Yep. 
And what I was seeing in their 

500
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:08,500
reporting because I would walk 
out of that media room everyday 

501
00:25:08,500 --> 00:25:10,900
go and then look at their 
stories as they would come out 

502
00:25:10,900 --> 00:25:14,000
over the course of the evening 
and into the next morning, and I

503
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,300
would come back the next morning
and have to stare at them and 

504
00:25:16,300 --> 00:25:18,700
just never verbalize the 
question. 

505
00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,600
Did you watch the same? 
Trial that I saw yesterday. 

506
00:25:22,700 --> 00:25:24,800
That's right. 
Well, they have the same. 

507
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,200
They have the same biases, 
they're bringing that the jurors

508
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:30,000
are bringing, and one of the 
things that has been so unique. 

509
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,500
And I know it's been stated, but
will say it one more time. 

510
00:25:33,500 --> 00:25:36,600
There is no precedent for people
fighting to get on a federal 

511
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,000
jury in anywhere that I'm aware 
of. 

512
00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:41,200
It's not a thing, it doesn't 
exist anywhere. 

513
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,500
Nobody wants to be on a federal 
jury, nobody want to be on any 

514
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,600
jury. 
It's a massive inconvenience for

515
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,200
your life and people are 
crawling all over themselves and

516
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,200
excusing, their own biases in 
ways that are completely 

517
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,300
illogical. 
In order to sit and mean out 

518
00:25:52,300 --> 00:25:55,900
Justice because they want to be 
part of the retribution, that 

519
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:58,800
stop these evil people. 
These evil evil people that did 

520
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,200
this terrible terrible thing and
they're going to be part of it. 

521
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:02,200
They're gonna be part of 
history. 

522
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,400
That is a that is a heretofore 
never never seen in this country

523
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,100
in any way and so you're seeing 
all the pieces of it you're 

524
00:26:10,100 --> 00:26:12,500
seeing judges that are on board.
You're seeing jurors that are 

525
00:26:12,500 --> 00:26:14,700
fighting to be part of it, 
you're seeing journalists that 

526
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:17,500
have a side and they are man 
they are rooting for their team.

527
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:19,400
They are not watching the same 
game you're watching. 

528
00:26:20,300 --> 00:26:22,600
It scares the hell out of me, to
be honest with you, like it. 

529
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,500
I've read Ryan J. 
Riley's reporting. 

530
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:28,600
And I think he's a buffoon, 
because he thought that earplugs

531
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,300
were rubber bullets in Ferguson.
And I basically have discounted 

532
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,200
anything. 
He said I know people can grow 

533
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,500
and they can, they can change. 
He hasn't shown me that he's had

534
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,300
any more discernment since then.
He's still saying foolish things

535
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:41,400
including about me personally. 
So I think are funny. 

536
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,100
It's like I think you're a beta 
male and I think that you 

537
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:46,800
wouldn't say any of those things
to my face because if you're 

538
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,000
gonna act like that, like you're
a fool but so be it that 

539
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,000
hopefully he listens Podcast 
used to listen to some of mine 

540
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,400
and do his thing with. 
I've been right about him, but 

541
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:56,100
they go up there and there will 
be, will he probably will? 

542
00:26:56,100 --> 00:26:59,400
Because Ryan and I met at that 
trial. 

543
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,700
He interviewed me for his book. 
Oh good, which is S edition 

544
00:27:03,700 --> 00:27:05,300
hunters or whatever. 
He's calling it something. 

545
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:08,000
Yeah, something like that. 
He but he interviewed me for two

546
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:11,100
and a half hours for his book. 
And when he called me up sitting

547
00:27:11,100 --> 00:27:14,700
right at this desk right here, 
and I said, actually he texted 

548
00:27:14,700 --> 00:27:17,800
me and said, hey would you know 
be interested in doing a sit 

549
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,900
down with me for my book. 
I said sure. 

550
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Just let me know when Boom the 
phone rings, right? 

551
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,100
Then sometime early evening and 
I went because you got time 

552
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,800
right now. 
Yeah, what the heck? 

553
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:32,400
I said oh by the way I'm going 
to be recording this and I said,

554
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,300
if you misquote me, are you 
mischaracterize anything? 

555
00:27:35,300 --> 00:27:36,800
I say, I'm going to burn the 
house down. 

556
00:27:37,300 --> 00:27:39,300
He said, okay, fine, good 
enough. 

557
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,200
And that's how that's how that 
interview started. 

558
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,000
He's quoting me accurately. 
And the things that he thought 

559
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,800
were like an indictment of my 
character because I said, I 

560
00:27:45,808 --> 00:27:48,500
thought the on the day of 
January 6 was really funny from 

561
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:50,300
where I was sitting and it was, 
it was Hilarious. 

562
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,800
I'm telling you I was shooting 
with a bunch of regular cops and

563
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,700
then we look down and I was a 
dude with Viking horn standing 

564
00:27:54,700 --> 00:27:58,600
in the middle of the floor and 
we're like like that's absurd 

565
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:01,000
like that's it. 
That's theater of the Absurd 

566
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:04,700
alternate universe weird at 40 
something, you know, almost 40 

567
00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:06,500
years old at that time, you 
know, for I'm 41 now. 

568
00:28:06,500 --> 00:28:08,900
So I'm looking at that and going
never in my life. 

569
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:10,700
Would you have been like, is 
that on your bingo card for the 

570
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,700
next three years? 
Nope, that's not on my bingo 

571
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:15,400
card, I wouldn't even put. 
I wouldn't waste the square man.

572
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,000
Not even on the free space 
that's craziness, that wouldn't 

573
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,100
happen. 
And so that happens is Quota 

574
00:28:20,100 --> 00:28:22,700
mean it's like and then and then
they also showed, I told him 

575
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,500
told everybody when I put these 
first, you know, my fledgling 

576
00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:28,800
podcast out that that I threw 
away leads of January 6th. 

577
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,500
And the January 6 leads were 
awful, they were straight-up 

578
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:33,600
awful, it was. 
I knew Steve Baker. 

579
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,400
Back in high school. 
I knew he played the trumpet. 

580
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,400
He really loved Dragon, he's an 
asshole. 

581
00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:40,200
He probably loves Trump, and he 
probably burned down the Capitol

582
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,700
and it's like I'm not going to 
go investigate that are you out 

583
00:28:42,700 --> 00:28:45,300
of your mind? 
Like I wouldn't waste my time. 

584
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:46,700
I wouldn't waste anybody's time 
with that. 

585
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:48,400
I wouldn't even waste an analyst
time with that. 

586
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,900
It's trash. 
That's where that Goes that's 

587
00:28:50,900 --> 00:28:53,000
personal Vendetta and animosity.
That's the stuff that we saw 

588
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,800
though. 
But there are a lot of agents 

589
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,200
that ran, that, that lead down 
and they came and talked to you.

590
00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,600
I mean, you know what I mean? 
And they would, that's exactly 

591
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,700
right and and so, so that's what
happens. 

592
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:05,300
That's what's so scary, go back 
to, so, back to why we're 

593
00:29:05,300 --> 00:29:09,300
worried about today, yeah, I 
have been, as a said, very 

594
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,100
aggressive in my analysis, very 
aggressive in my writing. 

595
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,600
I'm also now working with a 
group in DC that is feeding the,

596
00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:19,100
the alleged weaponization 
committee. 

597
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,200
The group that I'm working with 
are very very well-connected 

598
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,100
their own Capitol Hill every 
single day. 

599
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,400
They are very much like you. 
And I and that they are angry 

600
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,100
about what's not happening with 
those committees. 

601
00:29:33,100 --> 00:29:37,100
Yeah, they're, they're 
absolutely insist and sensed at 

602
00:29:37,100 --> 00:29:41,100
the stonewalling and what they 
feel like is a betrayal of the 

603
00:29:41,100 --> 00:29:44,600
actual function that stated 
function of that committee by 

604
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,100
its leadership. 
Yes, Jim Jordan. 

605
00:29:47,500 --> 00:29:50,800
And these say, it loud about it.
Shut up before I look I've no 

606
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:52,900
but mod I already have I've 
called him out. 

607
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,700
Brutally in my Twitter feed, I 
feel the same way, but it's 

608
00:29:55,700 --> 00:29:57,700
like, it's like look, if he does
it he does something well, that 

609
00:29:57,700 --> 00:29:59,500
we give an attaboy. 
And if he doesn't we tell them 

610
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:01,400
we're disappointed and that's 
just being honest people. 

611
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Like that's what constituents 
are supposed to do. 

612
00:30:03,900 --> 00:30:08,500
Well, as you've heard, I've 
called out the name of Anita Eve

613
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:10,700
several times I've called out my
agents names here. 

614
00:30:10,700 --> 00:30:12,200
That's generally the way I, 
right? 

615
00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,000
Yeah. 
It's like if they're going to 

616
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,300
come after me, then I can I can 
spread the love as well. 

617
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:23,700
And so the the It's not, it's 
not my own form of Vendetta or 

618
00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:26,900
retribution, it's just equal 
opportunity and it's equally, 

619
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,500
it's, it's equal time. 
It's equal speech. 

620
00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:32,000
Is what it is to me. 
If they're going to prosecute 

621
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,000
me, then I'm going to let the 
world know who's coming after 

622
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,600
me. 
And what ended up happening was 

623
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,900
on Monday of this week. 
My attorney called me 

624
00:30:41,900 --> 00:30:45,700
mid-afternoon and his first 
words out of his mouth after I 

625
00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:48,300
said, hey Brad, what's going on?
He said, hey just letting you 

626
00:30:48,300 --> 00:30:49,800
know that we're both in the kill
box. 

627
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:53,200
X. 
Did you define that term for 

628
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,400
you? 
Well, I know what a kill box is 

629
00:30:57,700 --> 00:31:04,600
and I'm like, keep talking. 
And he said, He said. 

630
00:31:06,700 --> 00:31:09,500
Well he said, you know how 
basically how I've had to pull 

631
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,200
you back on a few of your 
stories because every once in a 

632
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,900
while I write something that 
scares me. 

633
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:16,000
Okay. 
I've sent it to him. 

634
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:19,100
Yeah. 
And let him go, you know? 

635
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:24,400
And and just as an example, I've
done part 1 part 2, part 3 of my

636
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:30,000
Capitol Police story and, and in
that series, one of the reasons 

637
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,700
why I'm getting calls and I'm 
being privately contacted by 

638
00:31:33,700 --> 00:31:36,100
Capitol. 
Police officers, is they know 

639
00:31:36,100 --> 00:31:37,400
that. 
Playing Fair. 

640
00:31:38,300 --> 00:31:42,900
Yeah, I'm not I'm not one of 
those guys on our side who has 

641
00:31:42,900 --> 00:31:48,200
characterized every officer that
day as a murderer, every officer

642
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,300
is Michael bird. 
And you know, that that's the 

643
00:31:52,308 --> 00:31:55,000
way they've. 
That's what we know, you read 

644
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:58,700
it, I've interviewed them. 
There's a class of people on our

645
00:31:58,700 --> 00:32:02,200
team who that's the way they 
think about every law 

646
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,900
enforcement officer up there. 
Yes, a great buy and I don't 

647
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:08,500
have a team either. 
So, It's like, I like that and I

648
00:32:08,500 --> 00:32:10,400
found that to be very much the 
case so far since we've been 

649
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,300
talking. 
So I appreciate that as a, just 

650
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:13,900
a middle-of-the-road sober 
thing. 

651
00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:14,900
It's like, look, these things 
happen. 

652
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:17,400
Some things are good, some 
things are bad, you know, like 

653
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,100
the whole rest of your life, 
like every other person's 

654
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:22,600
experience in life, not 
everything is one thing. 

655
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:24,500
So, they've been coming out and 
talking to you. 

656
00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:26,700
Yeah. 
So they've been coming out and 

657
00:32:26,700 --> 00:32:30,300
talking to me. 
I'm obviously reporting on that.

658
00:32:30,300 --> 00:32:34,100
Yeah. 
And and the word is getting Out 

659
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,300
Among the legal Community as 
well. 

660
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:43,200
That I'm ruffling feathers. 
Then that conversation was on 

661
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,600
Monday, the kill box, the kill 
box conversation was on Monday 

662
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,500
Tuesday morning 6:30. 
A.m. 

663
00:32:52,100 --> 00:32:55,000
I get a phone call from another 
journalist friendly journalist. 

664
00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:01,100
Who called to tell me that he 
had a friendly Source inside the

665
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:09,000
doj and d.c. who phoned him on 
Monday and said I'm paraphrasing

666
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:14,600
but he said your friend in 
Raleigh, tell him to be careful.

667
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,800
He has awakened a couple of 
people. 

668
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,200
Who are really unhappy with what
he's reporting on right now. 

669
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,900
That was Tuesday morning at six,
you know, when another 

670
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:31,400
journalist calls you at 6:30 
a.m. 

671
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,200
It's not gets a pretty, that's a
pretty significant warning. 

672
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,500
Wake morning, wake-up call? 
Yeah, no coffee required. 

673
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,100
Yeah. 
And coincidentally I hear from 

674
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:47,600
Steve friend, you know, 1:00 or 
2:00 in the afternoon. 

675
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,400
You interested in being on 
Tucker, he puts me in touch with

676
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,600
the gal, that set that up. 
And I'm sitting in the studio 

677
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,900
talking to Tucker that night 
about that very situation. 

678
00:33:59,900 --> 00:34:02,400
Obviously, we didn't have time 
to get into that kind of detail.

679
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,300
About while I think that I'm 
being about to be targeted yet 

680
00:34:06,300 --> 00:34:09,800
again, but as I said, my own 
attorney has had to walk me off 

681
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:13,500
the ledge a couple of times with
some of my stories and I mean, 

682
00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:17,500
even even I had, I was contacted
one time, not contacted but I 

683
00:34:17,507 --> 00:34:22,900
was officer Harry. 
Dunn's attorney took a part of 

684
00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:26,199
warning, shot across my bow, 
publicly-owned on Twitter. 

685
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,300
And so, I immediately got on the
phone with my attorney and said,

686
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:32,400
hey, are they going to sue me, 
for what I'm saying about hair? 

687
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,500
He done and he goes let them 
cookies. 

688
00:34:34,500 --> 00:34:35,900
Then we can accuse that's a lot 
more evidence. 

689
00:34:35,900 --> 00:34:39,600
We can get into everything out 
into the open. 

690
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:43,300
And he said, yeah let him come 
on he said cousin then we get to

691
00:34:43,308 --> 00:34:46,699
take him down and he said that's
why they're not going to because

692
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:49,199
the video evidence will prove 
that Harry Dunne is a liar when 

693
00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,699
it's released remind me, who 
Harry done is I know the name 

694
00:34:51,699 --> 00:34:55,000
now and I can't place what his 
role is a police officer. 

695
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,900
He done is the one that was made
that he's the big six-foot, 867 

696
00:34:58,900 --> 00:35:05,200
350-pound officer who Was 
credited with so many wonderful 

697
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Deeds that day. 
He's received a presidential 

698
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,800
medal, a Congressional Medal 
Department, Metal. 

699
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,800
He's got got his book deal and 
he's the guy that claimed that 

700
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:21,600
he was subjected to a group of 
rioters chanting the n-word at 

701
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:22,500
him. 
Right? 

702
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:28,600
Of course, right and every 
single black, you SCP officer 

703
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,200
that I've spoken to and there 
have been several all say that 

704
00:35:32,500 --> 00:35:36,300
Or happened the black officers 
that I'm speaking to. 

705
00:35:36,300 --> 00:35:38,700
Yeah, and there's a fair, 
there's a fair number of black 

706
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:42,000
officers on US Capitol, Police 
for people who don't know, 

707
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,300
that's, that's who lives around 
d.c., there's a lot of that, 

708
00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:45,800
there's a lot of gentlemen, that
look like that. 

709
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,300
I have no thought that doesn't 
sound credible either, that's 

710
00:35:49,300 --> 00:35:51,300
not the sort of thing that 
happens in America. 

711
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:55,200
Generally speaking, especially 
the most, it's the most recorded

712
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,000
event in the history of the 
world, and you're telling me 

713
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,400
that an event of that magnitude 
had it been recorded on one of 

714
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,900
the hundreds of cell phones that
would have been present and 

715
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:08,700
rolling at that time or any of 
the professional photographers, 

716
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,200
are the independent journalists 
that were in that area at the 

717
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,100
time. 
But I led that we must capture, 

718
00:36:14,300 --> 00:36:18,800
we would have not heard a single
January 6 story at on any 

719
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:23,300
network ever for two and a half 
years without that audio 

720
00:36:23,300 --> 00:36:24,300
running. 
That's right. 

721
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,100
I agree. 
And it didn't happen but that's 

722
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:31,100
not the big lie and the big lie 
is buried in the videotape, and 

723
00:36:31,100 --> 00:36:35,400
I've seen it And that has to do 
with his testimony Against The 

724
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:37,600
Oath Keepers and receipt 
changed. 

725
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:43,700
His FBI in the to FBI 302s and 
they're both, still under seal, 

726
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,000
but they were both referenced in
court, so I can talk about it 

727
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,000
first. 
FBI interview, he credited The 

728
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,700
Oath Keepers, this was in May of
twenty Twenty-One withstanding, 

729
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:58,000
a line in front of him and 
helping, prevent more of the 

730
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,700
agitated protesters keeping them
off of him. 

731
00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:04,000
The way you'd expect back to 
people who are former law 

732
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,300
enforcement and Military to do 
correct. 

733
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:11,700
Sometime between May 20 21 and 
August of 2021. 

734
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:16,200
The Oath Keepers were determined
to be the perfect Patsy 

735
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,300
scapegoat whatever you want to 
call them as the tip of the 

736
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,500
spear as the leaders of the 
Insurrection, as a militia 

737
00:37:22,500 --> 00:37:28,600
during a militia group violent 
right-wing extremists. 

738
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:34,100
Militia group as they were 
characterized and Harry Dunne 

739
00:37:34,100 --> 00:37:38,000
was brought back in for another 
interview with the FBI, which 

740
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,800
I've read both 302s. 
And the only reason that he was 

741
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,500
brought back in for that. 
Second interview was to change 

742
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:49,300
his o keeper story which he did 
and he created another event 

743
00:37:49,700 --> 00:37:53,200
that happened in another place 
which he said he thought were 

744
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:57,200
Oath Keepers at the time, but it
actually wasn't the actual real 

745
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,200
Oath Keepers and that. 
That event was actually a 

746
00:38:00,207 --> 00:38:04,100
confrontational event and it was
from beginning to end and the 

747
00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:07,000
only reason for the second 
interview was to change that 

748
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:11,700
statement and and it created it 
out of whole cloth. 

749
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,900
I've seen the video that proves 
that he lied but I can never 

750
00:38:15,900 --> 00:38:20,400
show it because it's under seal.
This is capital police footage. 

751
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:26,800
Not your footage. 
It is capital CCTV coverage. 

752
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,400
All right, I'm going to keep, 
I'm going to pay it back to what

753
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,400
we were talking about. 
You got a phone call 6:30 in the

754
00:38:33,408 --> 00:38:35,500
morning. 
What's your next action on that?

755
00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:38,100
That puts you in the seat to 
talk to Tucker, obviously a 

756
00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:39,700
shorter interview then then what
we're doing here. 

757
00:38:39,700 --> 00:38:42,000
So I'm glad we get to talk as 
much as you want about it. 

758
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
It's one of those things that's 
so tough and having done those 

759
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,100
shows that I've been on Waters, 
I've been on stalkers, you know.

760
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,300
Same as you. 
It's like, you get 90 seconds of

761
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:52,600
actual talk and you catch 90 
seconds of question. 

762
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,700
Tucker's actually good at 
listening, I think, but there's 

763
00:38:54,700 --> 00:38:56,700
such short Snippets. 
You got one. 

764
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,900
You get one idea. 
You can just Send out across it,

765
00:39:00,700 --> 00:39:03,300
that's it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

766
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:05,800
We're approaching Joe Rogan 
territory here by the. 

767
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:06,700
Yeah. 
We're coming up on three. 

768
00:39:06,700 --> 00:39:07,500
That's all right. 
People. 

769
00:39:07,500 --> 00:39:09,100
Listen to it, they can break it 
up into bite-size. 

770
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:11,400
Always tell them that. 
That's the nice thing about leat

771
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,100
releasing on a Monday morning. 
It's like, you got all week. 

772
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:15,900
We'll do another one. 
You got seven days, listen to 

773
00:39:15,900 --> 00:39:16,900
it. 
Or you can listen to it next 

774
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:17,600
week. 
I don't care. 

775
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,400
You listen to it anytime you 
want, because the interviews are

776
00:39:19,408 --> 00:39:22,300
the interviews and the story 
that someone has to tell us 

777
00:39:22,300 --> 00:39:23,400
their story. 
And I don't know how long it 

778
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,000
takes and neither do you until 
we start doing it. 

779
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,400
So, yeah, what do you? 
You think the mechs the most 

780
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,700
likely course of events are for 
you coming up next, you got that

781
00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:33,900
call. 
You're obviously on the 

782
00:39:33,900 --> 00:39:35,200
offensive. 
I agree with that move. 

783
00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:37,500
I've done the same. 
I think it is the move. 

784
00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:39,500
It's the only thing that keeps 
just the justice department at 

785
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,800
Bay is the fear of bad 
publicity. 

786
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:45,500
I don't know why, I don't know 
why they care because it doesn't

787
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:47,800
seem to be the way that they're 
running their trials. 

788
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,900
They don't seem to be interested
in the Constitution. 

789
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:52,600
They care about a little bit, 
maybe a little bit of public 

790
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:57,800
sentiment is that? 
I think I think that The answer 

791
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,900
to that question is our that 
thought? 

792
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,900
Is that most of the country 
still respects, the First 

793
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:10,900
Amendment? 
Not all of them is we know. 

794
00:40:10,900 --> 00:40:13,200
We talked about the Rorschach 
test, we talked about the 

795
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:19,100
division, the extremes that of 
the, you know, this Chasm 

796
00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:22,700
between what appears to be the 
two sides now right now. 

797
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:27,700
And but still there's still a 
lot of guys, I mean look how 

798
00:40:27,707 --> 00:40:32,800
many guys on from the left wing 
press have what, you know 

799
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,800
whether they've been actually 
read pilled as we call it or not

800
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:42,100
have have become Well, they're 
showing their classical liberal 

801
00:40:42,100 --> 00:40:45,900
Stripes now and they're 
defending the First Amendment 

802
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:46,900
there. 
Defending speech. 

803
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,200
Again, if we're talking about 
whether we're talking about Joe 

804
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,900
Rogan or Matt Taibbi, or we're 
talking about shellenberger are 

805
00:40:52,900 --> 00:40:55,700
just go down the list. 
And yeah, Barry Weiss and Lee 

806
00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,100
Fang. 
Although is it just more and 

807
00:40:58,100 --> 00:40:59,400
more and more and more of them 
are going. 

808
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:03,500
Wait, stop stop. 
We I can still be of I'd Biden 

809
00:41:03,500 --> 00:41:09,200
voter but I can't I can't. 
Align with you on this 

810
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:13,200
remoteness or this, the suspect 
a suppression of speech or this 

811
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,800
you know, this deep platforming 
and and Shadow Banning of speech

812
00:41:19,300 --> 00:41:24,500
and and so I think that if 
there's any hesitancy left in 

813
00:41:24,500 --> 00:41:27,900
the Department of Justice and as
I've characterize them as using 

814
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:33,300
January 6th as their, their R&D 
has her testing grounds, for 

815
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:35,100
where they want to take this 
country. 

816
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,400
Do you think that Scotch is by 
the way? 

817
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,100
Do you think that's a A 
conscious decision that someone 

818
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,500
is making. 
Yeah, they just okay. 

819
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:45,600
I the the actual Gates of Hell. 
Evil I saw in the go in The Oath

820
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,500
Keepers trial had to be 
conscious because these people 

821
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:55,600
they either literally have a 
seared conscience or this was a 

822
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,900
conscious, you know, decision 
and probably maybe both. 

823
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,100
Yeah, this is your idea. 
So I don't know that I have an 

824
00:42:02,100 --> 00:42:03,800
opinion on it yet. 
I think it's an incredibly 

825
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:08,600
interesting thing to to dig into
and I'm I think that that's a 

826
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,200
certainly plausible that it is 
conscious, I'm curious how many 

827
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,000
people are actually driving that
in a conscious way. 

828
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:18,800
And and so let's say that is 
conscious that it's a 

829
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:25,000
conscientious effort to do this.
What's the endgame look like It 

830
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:29,400
is to in fact shut down the 
other half of the country and to

831
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,900
shut down our speech. 
Eventually the only bulwark that

832
00:42:32,900 --> 00:42:37,200
we have and Kyle, you know this 
I get I get this from my own 

833
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:43,700
blog followers from New Zealand,
Australia, Russia Romania. 

834
00:42:45,900 --> 00:42:50,100
He's got one never came. 
I won't waste time trying to 

835
00:42:50,107 --> 00:42:51,100
think of the country of the 
country. 

836
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:54,600
I've never gotten a message from
before but I'm not sure that I 

837
00:42:54,607 --> 00:42:59,900
even knew it existed, but these 
people tell us that the only 

838
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:06,600
reason that there are remaining 
vestiges of freedom on this 

839
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,600
planet to whatever level in 
these other countries that they 

840
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:15,000
still have their varying levels 
of Liberty is because of our 

841
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,800
Second Amendment. 
I hear that too. 

842
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:22,300
That's the last Domino. 
It is the last one and I have 

843
00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:27,100
also written this about Sixth. 
Is that? 

844
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:32,100
I believe. 
That they anticipated and 

845
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:36,400
expected. 
The Maga crowd to show up with 

846
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:40,800
concealed weapons. 
Use those weapons and that would

847
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,600
have been the end of the Second 
Amendment. 

848
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:46,200
Had that happen to that day. 
It would have been over. 

849
00:43:46,500 --> 00:43:49,900
That's really interesting and I 
have written about that several 

850
00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:56,000
times and it is by the grace of 
God that it did not happen 

851
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:59,800
because we do know that, some of
those guys were armed, they just

852
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,800
didn't use their weapons. 
Yeah. 

853
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:05,400
That's I mean that's a threshold
that a most people are in the 

854
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,300
military communities. 
The Special Operations guys, 

855
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:09,700
talk about flipping the switch, 
I think a lot of people didn't 

856
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:11,800
have that. 
They didn't the people that 

857
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,100
showed up that would have done. 
That are not the types of people

858
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,400
that we're going to flip the 
switch and there may be 

859
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,800
blowhards maybe fools maybe both
and thankfully they did not do 

860
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,000
that. 
The thing that you're talking 

861
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,700
about, the second amendment 
being the the last hedge and I 

862
00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:29,300
do agree with you on that on 
every way and I have said that 

863
00:44:29,300 --> 00:44:32,100
pretty publicly. 
I also all say it. 

864
00:44:32,300 --> 00:44:33,800
Because I think it's really 
important. 

865
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:35,700
I think that if anybody is 
looking at the division that's 

866
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:37,600
happening in this country, and 
they don't think that violence 

867
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,300
is on the menu. 
I'm not saying we have to order 

868
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,600
it and I hope we don't very 
clearly. 

869
00:44:41,900 --> 00:44:44,500
But do you have the same 
Instinct that that is obviously 

870
00:44:44,500 --> 00:44:47,000
one of the items on the menu 
that is that we're looking down 

871
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,300
with this sort of behavior 
because once you're once you're 

872
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:51,300
looking at a government that 
delegitimize has its own 

873
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:54,900
authorities by trampling over 
these, the civil liberties in 

874
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:59,700
the Bill of Rights, the number 
of legitimate recourse, options 

875
00:44:59,700 --> 00:45:01,900
are very, very low. 
Right? 

876
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:07,200
If we're talking about the 
Philadelphia abortion, clinic 

877
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,700
protester, if we're talking 
about the school board meeting 

878
00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:13,400
protesters, the families have 
been characterized, as you know,

879
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:19,500
domestic terrorists, for 
speaking speaking up, but this 

880
00:45:19,500 --> 00:45:25,100
is, I believe a conscientious 
objective objective coming from 

881
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,900
the Department of Justice to 
shut down the speech because 

882
00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:30,400
look, because you have to look 
at the trials. 

883
00:45:30,500 --> 00:45:31,800
All right? 
Look what What's happening in 

884
00:45:31,808 --> 00:45:34,600
the individual cases? 
If you're one of what I call 

885
00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,600
these Accidental Tourist that 
walked through the building if 

886
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:41,200
you did so silently and you 
rolled up your flag. 

887
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:46,700
You might get out of there, with
either two or one single 

888
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:50,300
misdemeanor, you'll get two 
years probation, five hundred 

889
00:45:50,300 --> 00:45:54,700
dollar fine on an hours of 
community service slap on the 

890
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,600
wrist and you're sent back home 
to live your life and wait out 

891
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:00,800
your probationary period to be 
over with, okay? 

892
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:06,300
but if you wrote on your 
Facebook page prior to, or 

893
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:09,900
afterwards, I stormed the 
capitol today. 

894
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:18,700
And that's all you said, you got
eight months in prison, same 

895
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:21,600
thing, right? 
You didn't do anything different

896
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:28,200
or if they got you on video, 
chanting whose house our house 

897
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,200
whose house our house that's 
going to cost you six months in 

898
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,400
jail. 
Right Said, alright, now, let's 

899
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,400
take it to the other extreme 
oathkeepers trial for whatever 

900
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:43,500
The Oath Keepers may or may not 
be guilty of our shouldn't say 

901
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:44,700
whatever. 
They may be guilty of. 

902
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:46,200
Let me tell you what they're not
guilty of. 

903
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:51,000
What they got convicted of. 
Not a single one of them. 

904
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:55,000
Yeah, guilty with the exception 
exception of Jessica Watkins who

905
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,500
took full responsibility for 
that shoving match. 

906
00:46:57,500 --> 00:46:59,800
She got in at shoving scrums, 
she got in with some of the 

907
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,700
Metro Police Department. 
Okay. 

908
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,600
Where's inside the Capitol? 
And she took full 

909
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:10,800
responsibility, her lawyer on 
her behalf admitted to it, she 

910
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,100
took the stand as a surprise 
witness in her own in her own 

911
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:16,800
defense and admitted on the 
stand and said she was welcome, 

912
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:18,600
welcome. 
Welcome any punishment. 

913
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:20,900
That they would meet out. 
As a result of that violation 

914
00:47:20,900 --> 00:47:25,200
and she was sorry that she did 
it every single other defendant 

915
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,500
in that trial. 
And in the subsequent trials, as

916
00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:33,700
well, have been prosecuted for 
speech that people didn't like, 

917
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,000
right. 
Not now in that trial, Kyle, it 

918
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,000
was somewhere between it was 
either seven or nine FBI agents 

919
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,000
testified in that first trial 
under cross-examination, which 

920
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:49,500
the mainstream pass, completely 
avoided totally failed. 

921
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:55,600
To render to the American people
was that every single FBI 

922
00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:00,200
officer in that trial under 
cross-examination said, I have 

923
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:08,400
no proof of written verbal or 
otherwise given orders from 

924
00:48:08,500 --> 00:48:13,600
oathkeeper leadership to enter 
the capital, Thorpe the election

925
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:17,200
certification, overthrow the 
government. 

926
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,700
Every single FBI officer about 
all five of those defendants 

927
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:27,800
answered that. 
Exact same way over and over and

928
00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,500
over again, it was at sick case,
yeah. 

929
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,800
Then where's the conspiracy? 
It's the emanations and the 

930
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:40,300
penumbra I think, right? 
It's it's the fact that a bunch 

931
00:48:40,300 --> 00:48:44,800
of ex military and law 
enforcement guys, get on the 

932
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,700
phone or on chat groups together
and talk shit. 

933
00:48:47,700 --> 00:48:50,300
Like they always do just like 
all the guys that I know down 

934
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:51,700
here at Bragg. 
Yes. 

935
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,400
And and it's just the way they 
talk. 

936
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:58,100
That's right. 
And it's 100% obviously and and 

937
00:48:58,100 --> 00:49:04,100
and the jury got a brain washing
and I say that Early. 

938
00:49:04,100 --> 00:49:06,600
Because I understand how this I 
media is. 

939
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,900
My world. 
Music is my world. 

940
00:49:08,900 --> 00:49:11,800
I know how to keep a dance floor
packed all night long at. 

941
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,600
That is not easy to do and it is
a it is a science. 

942
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,900
It is a skill that is learned 
but you know, how to program 

943
00:49:18,900 --> 00:49:22,300
that audience, you know, how to 
hypnotize that audience and keep

944
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:24,100
them hypnotized for two or three
hours. 

945
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:28,100
And what that department of 
justice presentation was, and 

946
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:33,200
that trial was a high-end super 
fast pace flash media. 

947
00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:36,600
I mean, Up, chat group, chat 
group, chat group, chat group, 

948
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,000
all this inflammatory language, 
video video video. 

949
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:44,100
Here's the guys on the firing 
range in Florida in September of

950
00:49:44,100 --> 00:49:48,600
2020, which they probably do 
every month anyway before Jan. 

951
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,700
Yeah, something they do anyway. 
The before, before January 6 was

952
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:57,400
even scheduled chat group, chat 
group from October, November. 

953
00:49:57,500 --> 00:50:01,800
December before January 6, was 
the amoeba because the January 6

954
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,700
event was not announced on 
December 19th. 

955
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:09,300
With 20/20 and they're just like
over and he's just fast as they 

956
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,800
can throw this. 
This, this programming, this 

957
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,700
brainwashing, multimedia, 
brainwashing at that. 

958
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,200
And, of course, as you already 
stated, these clients, don't 

959
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,300
have the money to hire the type 
of Defense teams that can 

960
00:50:22,300 --> 00:50:27,200
counter financially. 
The type of unlimited budget 

961
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:31,100
that they had in that trial that
the the Department of Justice 

962
00:50:31,100 --> 00:50:33,700
presented in that trial, is that
it's just there's no way. 

963
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:37,200
A to counter that their 
presentation was fact, more 

964
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:43,400
factual but is Clumsy. 
It was it was an ill and they're

965
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,200
already fighting way way uphill 
against the jury that's fighting

966
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,500
to get on a jury. 
That's exactly it. 

967
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:53,200
You're fighting on a jury by 
scientific polling. 

968
00:50:53,300 --> 00:50:57,500
Had a 95.5% predisposition 
towards the Oath Keepers guilt 

969
00:50:57,500 --> 00:50:59,200
before the trial ever started, 
right? 

970
00:51:01,500 --> 00:51:05,500
And, and I mean, there's no no 
way to combat that except a win 

971
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:12,600
in a motion for, you know, the 
change of venue but nobody's 

972
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:14,500
going to allow that. 
Well, apparently, they're 

973
00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,300
procedurally barred from doing 
that, is what I found out. 

974
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,500
So, I've been listening to Bill 
Shipp leeteuk, you familiar with

975
00:51:19,500 --> 00:51:22,600
him? 
Oh yeah, I talked to Bill 

976
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:25,900
Shipley, regular inside you as 
well on the back end here and on

977
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:27,800
a couple Twitter spaces and one 
of the things that he mentioned,

978
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,900
which I thought was actually the
most accurate. 

979
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:34,900
Assessment of of the failure of 
doj, which you, I think you have

980
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,100
honed in on something really 
specific. 

981
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,400
His statement is that the 
government has no business 

982
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,900
weighing in on the outcome of a 
trial. 

983
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,800
They're only interested in the 
process and the minute that you 

984
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,300
step away from caring about the 
process that it's fair. 

985
00:51:48,500 --> 00:51:50,800
Its balance. 
The discovery is given on time 

986
00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:52,700
that the Brady material is 
turned over the way that it's 

987
00:51:52,700 --> 00:51:55,700
supposed to be the minute, you 
deviate from that and you start 

988
00:51:55,700 --> 00:51:59,300
caring about the outcome guilt 
or innocence Polly, you're not 

989
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,900
Then you have departed from the 
mission of the government and we

990
00:52:02,900 --> 00:52:05,700
are in a fully departed State. 
At this point, we have left the 

991
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:08,900
road, we have left the on-ramp. 
We've left, whatever sort of the

992
00:52:08,900 --> 00:52:12,200
feeder roads are and we are all 
far afield driving through 

993
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,600
recruiting sources from the 
defense team which is a which is

994
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,300
yeah just it's not just the 
defense team. 

995
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,900
It's a public defender. 
This is a like a mire. 

996
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:25,000
Like very, very minor paid 
person who has the you know the 

997
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,600
only ability to get this job or 
as a belief in the thing. 

998
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,300
That's true too but this is 
someone who is Is not a 

999
00:52:30,308 --> 00:52:33,000
high-paid defense attorney by 
any means and doesn't have the 

1000
00:52:33,008 --> 00:52:35,300
capabilities of going against 
that and they're getting, 

1001
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,300
they're getting sources into it.
It's incredible stuff. 

1002
00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:41,600
I got a, I got a text from 
Stewart, one of Stewart Rhodes 

1003
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,600
attorneys last night and he said
he was addressing that issue 

1004
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,200
right there. 
He said to are you, are you 

1005
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,700
following this stuff that just 
coming out and the proud boys? 

1006
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:50,800
I said, yeah. 
He said he's like, damn it. 

1007
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:53,600
I knew that they were doing that
to us the whole time. 

1008
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,200
I knew it was happening to us 
because time and time and time 

1009
00:52:56,200 --> 00:53:00,700
again, they would have just 
before they they would even 

1010
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:06,600
subpoena a witness suddenly that
Witness The day before the 

1011
00:53:06,607 --> 00:53:10,500
subpoena would go out, was being
interviewed by the FBI or 

1012
00:53:10,500 --> 00:53:13,500
arrested, right? 
It happened to him at least five

1013
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:16,800
times during that trial and it 
was, it was not coincidence. 

1014
00:53:16,900 --> 00:53:18,600
You know, perfect. 
Perfect discrediting. 

1015
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:23,400
Yeah, yeah. 
And every single time that the 

1016
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:25,700
defense would come in and, you 
know, without the jury in the 

1017
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:28,700
room and would start arguing. 
This towards judge maida and 

1018
00:53:28,700 --> 00:53:32,700
said this is happening to us. 
Now, years in the can man, well,

1019
00:53:32,700 --> 00:53:35,900
it goes back to your poem. 
Scarily enough, but the maiden 

1020
00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:37,700
is not blind. 
You know, the blindfold is 

1021
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:40,000
lifted. 
She's peeking for one side and 

1022
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,100
she's putting her arm in the 
scale on the other side too. 

1023
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:46,000
So, it's a really, really scary 
time. 

1024
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,300
Is there anything uplifting 
about this? 

1025
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:49,300
I always ask people because I do
a lot of interviews that are 

1026
00:53:49,308 --> 00:53:53,000
just a lot of bad news. 
I think they're honest and bad 

1027
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,600
news. 
But is there anything that gives

1028
00:53:54,600 --> 00:53:57,300
you any kind of Hope out of any 
of this stuff or and it doesn't 

1029
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:59,900
have to be true by the way, I, 
the last guy asks you just said,

1030
00:53:59,900 --> 00:54:04,000
no, there's no Silver Lining. 
Is there anything that you see 

1031
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:05,600
that? 
You get some life experience, 

1032
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,300
you got some some wisdom of 
going through this on two ends 

1033
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:12,200
both as a as an investigator and
also as someone who's kind of a 

1034
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:19,100
participant unwillingly, I am 
asked this question every 

1035
00:54:19,100 --> 00:54:21,200
Tuesday Morning on a radio show 
that I do. 

1036
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:25,100
I have a regular 30-minute spot 
on a national radio show every 

1037
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:30,600
Thursday morning. 
Our Tuesday morning and because 

1038
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,300
our 30-minute conversation is 
usually a, you know, nothing but

1039
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:37,600
gloom and doom and the end of 
the Republican zombie apocalypse

1040
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:40,900
is all it ever consists of the, 
he asks me every single time. 

1041
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:44,600
What what do we how can we, how 
can we close this positively 

1042
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,900
today? 
And sometimes I can't. 

1043
00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:49,300
Sometimes, I'm just too 
overwhelmed by what I'm dealing 

1044
00:54:49,300 --> 00:54:53,100
with it to the moment by the 
cases that I'm working on the 

1045
00:54:53,100 --> 00:54:55,700
investigations that I'm doing 
that. 

1046
00:54:55,700 --> 00:55:01,300
I just I can't find the light, I
can't see it because it is 

1047
00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:04,300
darkness that I'm in this world 
that I'm moving in right now. 

1048
00:55:05,300 --> 00:55:08,300
And to the point in this is not 
an answer to your question, but 

1049
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:11,900
I think that those who are still
hanging with us, will will 

1050
00:55:11,900 --> 00:55:15,400
understand my point, I'm still a
musician, I still play. 

1051
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,400
I've got two more gigs this 
month, one tomorrow, when next 

1052
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:27,900
Thursday, and I get so 
myopically focused on whatever 

1053
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:32,300
story I'm working on at the time
until I see it through. 

1054
00:55:32,500 --> 00:55:36,600
I can't take, I can't I can't 
come out of that. 

1055
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,900
That that tunnel and then I've 
got a I've got a gig on the 

1056
00:55:40,900 --> 00:55:44,800
calendar. 
I'm like man I've got a and I'm 

1057
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,600
the Ione, the band, the band 
leader. 

1058
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:49,000
I've got a I've got a schedule 
rehearsals. 

1059
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,500
I've got to communicate with the
set list is going to be the 

1060
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:54,000
songs that we have to learn you 
know all of Sayings. 

1061
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:58,100
And I can't come out of that 
tunnel and then I'd read the 

1062
00:55:58,100 --> 00:55:59,900
rehearsal that I had last night.
I got. 

1063
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:02,400
And then, you know, I get with 
the band members in the, you 

1064
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,100
know, bands are like, you know, 
locker room kind of situations. 

1065
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:09,400
You're we have fun. 
And, and so it lightens me up a 

1066
00:56:09,408 --> 00:56:12,100
little bit and then I'm back 
into my tunnel today. 

1067
00:56:12,100 --> 00:56:15,100
And then tomorrow is my gig. 
And then I'd read the gig coming

1068
00:56:15,100 --> 00:56:19,200
up and then every single time 
Kyle I walk off the stage at the

1069
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,600
end of the night. 
I can't wait to do that again, 

1070
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,500
because that's the light that I 
have. 

1071
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:24,900
I've left in my soul. 
Yep. 

1072
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:31,800
Is making people happy because I
feel like what I'm doing right 

1073
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:36,200
now is scaring the shit out of 
them otherwise and and not 

1074
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,900
because that's my intent. 
It's that it's it's almost like 

1075
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,900
it's just a Clarion call. 
It's the, you know, it's the the

1076
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:51,500
town, you know, the ringing, the
bell, The Barker, I've got I 

1077
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:55,400
feel like that because I'm also 
going to tell you this and Rogan

1078
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,100
hit on this the other day. 
When he said, I don't know if 

1079
00:56:57,100 --> 00:56:59,900
you saw that clip where he said 
you know thank God for the 

1080
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:03,400
independent journalist because 
the the big media is failing us 

1081
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,300
utterly and they are and that's 
what I was. 

1082
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:06,800
That was the point I made 
earlier. 

1083
00:57:07,100 --> 00:57:10,700
I can't wait for the day. 
I didn't have this opportunity 

1084
00:57:10,700 --> 00:57:13,300
with Tucker because I only had 
three minutes. 

1085
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:14,900
It's right. 
But if I ever got to do his 

1086
00:57:14,900 --> 00:57:19,900
podcast, or if I get to do Glenn
Beck's podcast, or if I get to 

1087
00:57:19,900 --> 00:57:23,800
sit down with Ben Shapiro, every
one of them are one of them if 

1088
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,000
I'd ever happens. 
I'm going to look at them across

1089
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,400
At the table and I'm going to 
tell them how much respect I 

1090
00:57:28,408 --> 00:57:31,300
have for the work that they've 
done and how much I'd I follow 

1091
00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:34,300
them and I watch them and I pay 
attention to what their work and

1092
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:36,500
the good work that they do. 
But I'm then I'm going to say, 

1093
00:57:36,500 --> 00:57:42,000
but you failed this country 
during the nine weeks of that 

1094
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:47,000
Oath Keepers trial because you 
had the money, the resources and

1095
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,200
the damn staff in d.c. to come 
in there and you've got a 

1096
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:57,400
bullhorn large enough to at 
least balance out the Absolutely

1097
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,800
steaming stack of Barbra 
Streisand. 

1098
00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:03,000
It was coming out of the 
Mountain National media at 

1099
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:04,400
during that trial. 
Yeah. 

1100
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,300
And you could have offset that 
and maybe made a difference. 

1101
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:12,700
Even in one charge of one person
or a set. 

1102
00:58:12,700 --> 00:58:17,400
Instead you left me as this 
little bitty blogger guy 

1103
00:58:17,900 --> 00:58:21,800
independent, who had to pay for 
that sucker out of my pocket for

1104
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:24,700
nine weeks. 
It ain't cheap to be in d.c. for

1105
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:28,900
nine weeks, by the way, and you 
left me there by myself. 

1106
00:58:31,500 --> 00:58:35,300
Yep. 
And you you didn't you didn't 

1107
00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:38,400
fail your audience, you failed 
the country by not being there 

1108
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:39,800
that day. 
And you know why? 

1109
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:42,000
Because you're scared of China 
were January 6. 

1110
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:44,700
You thinks it's, you think it's 
toxic but I'm telling you right 

1111
00:58:44,700 --> 00:58:48,800
now, you don't understand the 
magnitude, what's happening as a

1112
00:58:48,808 --> 00:58:52,200
result of January 6th. 
It's the largest narrative 

1113
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,800
victory in the history of this 
country for one political side 

1114
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:58,600
over the other and they're 
taking full advantage right now 

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00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:01,100
and running roughshod over the 
Constitution. 

1116
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:06,200
And this is the, it's the petri 
dish for where they're taking us

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00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:07,600
in. 
If you don't see it, you don't 

1118
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,400
understand it. 
You're not going to be able to 

1119
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:13,100
stop it. 
So that's not positive. 

1120
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:15,200
That's not it is but it is a 
good takeaway. 

1121
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,800
It is that it is the thing that 
I would leave everybody with is 

1122
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:23,700
to say this, if they're not 
going to do it, it's going to be

1123
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:24,800
me. 
And it's going to be the other 

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00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:26,500
small guys. 
It's going to be the 

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00:59:26,500 --> 00:59:30,100
Independence that are out there.
You know, doing the old-style 

1126
00:59:30,100 --> 00:59:35,300
gumshoe work, And and I'm going 
to find the port to that Death 

1127
00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:39,200
Star buddy. 
Yeah, it's there and they keep 

1128
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,400
they expose it every once in a 
while as Steve called the 

1129
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,300
thermal exhaust Port. 
We have one on the FBI with the 

1130
00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,500
Catholic document that went out 
and made a big buzz, it hit in a

1131
00:59:48,508 --> 00:59:50,700
big way, they're 70 million 
Catholics in this country that 

1132
00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:52,900
don't want to be told that they 
are white supremacist because 

1133
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:55,100
it's antithetical to their views
simply because they don't like 

1134
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:56,900
abortion. 
That's not a thing that's real 

1135
00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,700
and every once in a while they 
turn that little scale over the 

1136
00:59:59,700 --> 01:00:03,400
scale of smog if you were A gr 
talking, you know, there was a 

1137
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,300
one spot where he was soft, 
right? 

1138
01:00:05,500 --> 01:00:08,400
And they do have a soft spot and
they expose it occasionally. 

1139
01:00:08,700 --> 01:00:11,400
So we'll keep looking for it. 
I appreciate that. 

1140
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:14,100
I tell everybody that because 
people always checking on me and

1141
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:16,400
do the same thing and they go, 
oh, you know, how you doing, and

1142
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:17,700
I go, it's really 
straightforward. 

1143
01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:20,100
I go to bed every single night 
defeated and I wake up every 

1144
01:00:20,100 --> 01:00:23,200
morning Ready for War and and it
sounds like you have the same 

1145
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,100
attitude, so I do appreciate 
that in a big way. 

1146
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,500
Where can people read some of 
this morose Doom and Gloom 

1147
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,700
writing that you put out there? 
Where, where can they follow 

1148
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:31,900
your blog? 
If they're not already doing. 

1149
01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:36,300
So yeah, I'm on locals the the 
easiest way to find it and you 

1150
01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:40,500
can either write out the full. 
I've got a condensed my name but

1151
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:43,000
it's the pragmatic 
constitutionalist dot 

1152
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,300
locals.com. 
Or you can just go to TPC, four.

1153
01:00:47,300 --> 01:00:50,200
Usa.com it'll take you to the 
same. 

1154
01:00:50,200 --> 01:00:54,000
Exact address TPC. 
The number for the number for 

1155
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:57,800
USA and at TPC for USA is my 
Twitter account. 

1156
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,500
It's also my Facebook account. 
So, TPC. 

1157
01:01:01,500 --> 01:01:03,400
Four USA is the easiest way to 
find it. 

1158
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:07,500
The obviously, we need you over 
on locals because not only is 

1159
01:01:07,500 --> 01:01:10,200
their content there that I don't
share anywhere. 

1160
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,800
And I have I have these kinds of
conversations with my followers 

1161
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:19,000
there that I don't have anywhere
else chair and, and that is 

1162
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,500
important. 
And I there those are the guys 

1163
01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:24,800
that I wake up and, you know, 
it's 6:30 in the morning when I 

1164
01:01:24,808 --> 01:01:27,200
get a call from the telling me 
to, you know, I need to be 

1165
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:31,400
looking, you know, over my 
shoulder that I didn't go to 

1166
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,700
them and I tell them those 
stories that morning that I 

1167
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:36,600
don't tell the rest of the world
usually and so that's the kind 

1168
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:40,600
of thing that happens. 
There to my local group and and 

1169
01:01:40,600 --> 01:01:44,100
it's also the only place I don't
have any potions or lotions or 

1170
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:48,200
anything else to sell and so it 
is only through the support that

1171
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,400
we do through the subscriber 
side of our locals is free to 

1172
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,800
subscribe to but we also have a 
supporter side. 

1173
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,800
And so anybody that can do that 
over there for as little as $5, 

1174
01:01:56,800 --> 01:02:01,500
a month, can help us in in these
investigations and is I said it 

1175
01:02:01,500 --> 01:02:05,100
ain't cheap being in DC. 
Now it's Alliance. 

1176
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,100
Well I appreciate what you're 
doing. 

1177
01:02:07,100 --> 01:02:08,800
I appreciate you sharing all 
this time with us now. 

1178
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:11,300
Three hours and change. 
God bless you for the for the 

1179
01:02:11,308 --> 01:02:13,500
work you're doing. 
I hope you keep us apprised. 

1180
01:02:13,900 --> 01:02:16,400
I hope that that they stay off 
your door. 

1181
01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:20,900
I hope the line stay at Bay, and
we're going to need some small 

1182
01:02:20,900 --> 01:02:23,500
victories in these little fields
for some people who are doing 

1183
01:02:23,500 --> 01:02:26,100
the right thing to not have the 
doj kick through that door. 

1184
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:28,600
I have the same fears for 
different reasons, just because 

1185
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:33,000
I have no trust in that agency. 
Fortunately and what a sad world

1186
01:02:33,100 --> 01:02:35,600
that we're living in, where our 
department of justice has 

1187
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,600
slipped that blindfold in this 
is looking Us in the eye as 

1188
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:40,700
instead of just doing the job. 
That is the process. 

1189
01:02:40,700 --> 01:02:42,700
So, that's a shame, folks. 
You've been listening to the 

1190
01:02:42,700 --> 01:02:44,600
Kyle Serafin show. 
And if you enjoyed what you 

1191
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:46,600
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hit. 

1192
01:02:46,700 --> 01:02:49,500
Subscribe on Rumble and you can 
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1193
01:02:49,500 --> 01:02:51,200
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You listen to podcast. 

1194
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:53,000
If you find one that we're not 
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1195
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:54,800
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If you enjoyed what you heard 

1196
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:56,400
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1197
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,600
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We do these interviews every 

1198
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,500
Monday morning that you can 
Listen to throughout the week. 

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01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,000
Maybe in bite-size pieces, or if
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1200
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,500
across the country, we will keep
you company. 

1201
01:03:05,900 --> 01:03:08,500
We always appreciate a five star
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1202
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:10,200
get a chance to do that, the 
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1203
01:03:10,300 --> 01:03:13,400
I'll put the links to Steve 
Baker, my guest today to his 

1204
01:03:13,500 --> 01:03:16,100
website, you can check out his 
locals account and do some the 

1205
01:03:16,100 --> 01:03:18,600
reading there. 
Thanks so much for joining us 

1206
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:21,000
for this long, but I think very 
necessary story. 

1207
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:22,300
Steve, I really appreciate your 
time. 

1208
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,800
And folks, we will see you all 
next time. 

1209
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:27,700
On the cows are up and show. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

1210
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:30,100
Serafin. 
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1211
01:03:30,100 --> 01:03:32,900
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1212
01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,900
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