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Take a look behind the curtain 
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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Seraf. 
Hello my friends, Welcome to the

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Kyle Seraphin Show. 
Today is Wednesday. 

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It is September the 20th. 
It is now 830 here in Texas, 

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America and we are streaming to 
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We have an interesting guest who
is going to engage in a spicy 

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conversation today. 
She told me already we're going 

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to be talking about socialism 
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Socialism 2023 conference that 
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So looking forward to that. 
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But first, let's just do some 

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introduction. 
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psychologist by trade. 
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She is an activist. 
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She's an author. 
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socialism with Carlin. 
Oh, Carlin, I lost your name 

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over here. 
Why did they do this? 

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Okay. 
Hold on, boysenko. 

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She's married to Ukrainian and 
she has a fatherinlaw that wants

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the USSR to return. 
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this before we got started. 
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You remember, guys, when we had 
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who the bad guy was. 
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I'm kind of into that. 
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Thanks for joining me this 
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Hey, thanks for having me to 
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morning. 
Appreciate it. 

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Nothing like waking up and just 
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destruction of Western culture, 
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It is the most dystopian thing 
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In my year doing deep dives into
the socialist, I will never view

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the world the same again. 
I'll tell you what I'm gonna I'm

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interested in destruction of the
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But let's let's get started on 
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things. 
Tell people who you are, where 

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you came from, where you grew 
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Yeah. 
So I'm Carlin Beresenko. 

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I grew up in Vermont. 
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and I kind of started this whole
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accidentally publicly left the 
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a Trump rally. 
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dives into the culture war and 
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I am a psychologist by training,
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I I'm. 
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seems to work out really well 
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dives into the real far left 
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I dig it. 
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What about going to a Trump 

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And then I've also read through 
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the other stuff, some of the 
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not exactly a Republican either,
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to explain to them. 
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around like I'm actually about 
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September of 2019. 
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behind me, my knitting, of 
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came and took over my knitting 
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destroying businesses and doing 
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mobbing people and doing all 
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I'm a First Amendment 
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that they were using and demand 
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just didn't sit well with me. 
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journey of really questioning 
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2020, where I was just going to 
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Trump. 
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They're a lot of fun. 
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on my now banned Medium account 
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ended up being the most read 
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a solid week because it went 
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conservative influencer and all 
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And that was how I kind of got 
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So they loved you for that. 
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you say, well, that's not, you 
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100% behind you guys and then 
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you, right? 
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works out? 
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weird year for me because I knew
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But it's also like when you read
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And so I was going through a 
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eye of like, I don't like the 
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doing a lot of stuff with the 
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Campaign. 
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much on board with all of that. 
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changed about the Republican 
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after January 6th, after Joe 
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much on board with this Big Ten 
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2020. 
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as an ally in that. 
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office, I'm sorry conservatives,
a lot of you changed quite a 

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bit. 
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the conservatism that I 
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Majority in the 90s when I. 
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with a lot of it. 
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be mounting a much stronger 
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against the Democrats and and 
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to get Democrats to leave the 
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And so when I saw things like 
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like me. 
I've been told multiple times 

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like get out of our movement. 
And so OK you don't want me into

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your movement. 
I don't have to be there. 

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But I'm still going to try to 
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still trying to get to get 
people to leave the Democratic 

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Party because I think the 
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And so if you don't want to be 
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That that's fine. 
But you're not going to ruin 

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what I'm trying to do either. 
What do you think changed in 

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from 2020? 
In the last two years, what's 

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been changed in the Republican 
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Yeah. 
So in 2020, there was a lot of 

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talk about a big tent, like 
let's bring up a bunch of people

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and with a variety of beliefs 
into the same thing, because we 

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all believe in individual 
liberties and freedom and stuff 

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like that. 
I'm totally on board with that, 

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right? 
But after January 6th, and after

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after Donald Trump left office 
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immediately, I documented on my 
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Back in the day, almost 
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this, like, I called them the 
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Whereas all of a sudden, like, 
should gay people be allowed in 

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the Magga movement? 
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My first political issue was 
civil unions, right? 

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I'm not against gay people. 

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I'm not against trans people. 
So yes, they should be. 

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And so I ended up there. 
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me in which I was really 
fighting hard against critical 

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To try to ban Critical Race 
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Hampshire to try to get that law
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I was spending all this time 
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trying to explain what Critical 
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because it was still a very new 
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People didn't know what it was. 
And so I was putting all this 

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time in and then what happened, 
Kyle? 

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But the Republicans sabotaged 
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The Republicans, they they like,
they had the majority of 

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everything. 
And the governorship and Kristen

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New New actively sabotage the 
anticritical race theory law in 

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New Hampshire to make it 
completely toothless in order to

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kiss the backsides of the 
teachers unions. 

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And so they ended up passing 
this law that doesn't actually 

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ban critical race theory 
doesn't, is not even enforced to

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this day. 
There's a school district in New

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Hampshire that I reported to the
state about a year ago now that 

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actually has on their home page 
that they're breaking the state 

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law. 
The state won't do anything to 

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enforce it. 
And so when I kind of saw the 

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toothlessness of the Republican 
Party, especially like after 

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Trump left office, I was like, I
want to do real things in the 

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real world. 
This is not something I want to 

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be a part of. 
But Republicans don't like being

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told all the way that ways that 
their leaders are messing up and

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I just won't shut up about that.
I guess that's fair. 

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As non Republican, I I see the 
outside and it seems to me that 

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there's an awful lot of 
problems. 

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And it sounds like you think 
they're they're tacking back 

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towards that Moral Majority 
piece that happened in the 90s 

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where there was a lot of 
preaching, which is interesting.

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I'm, I'm a prolife Christian, so
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But at the end of the day, it's 
like that's not what we need to 

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be spending our time on in 
politics. 

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We should kind of just 
understand that we all have our 

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own flaws and let's let's deal 
with the politics part of it. 

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You want to start converting 
people go evangelize in a 

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nonpolitical realm. 
Makes sense to me. 

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All right. 
So that's kind of the lens that 

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you're looking at things. 
How did you take your 

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background? 
How does your background in 

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psychology sort of lend to what 
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Yeah. 
So it kind of started, it 

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started as a complete accident, 
if I'm honest about it, where I 

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started doing these streams 
where I was talking about the 

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news and I was exploring 
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But I started at some point just
integrating the psychology into 

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the streams I was doing on my 
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about like, you know, why are 
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psychology lens to to really 
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about not just what's happening.
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it's going to go next. 
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left is doing that is not 
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It's on the Internet. 

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There aren't that many people 

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watching and we're talking about
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language they were using, to get
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single part of our culture. 
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little over a year ago now, I 
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the the Socialism conference. 
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was streaming their keynotes. 
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funny. 
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a couple of beers, make fun of 
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Your your your idea of a fun 
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the same as everybody else's. 
Not even a Friday. 

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We do this every single 
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Like, this is our, this is our 
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But you know what? 
The socialists. 

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democratic socialists of 
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socialist activists. 
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Internet. 
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you go back and watch their 
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ago, that's the talking point of
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coffee shop or in a bookstore, 
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points of the Democratic Party 
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America. 
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language is coming from in terms
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schools, in terms of gender 
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Psychology in schools, all of 
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the same far left people. 
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diving into this and the more we
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culture, that just became more 
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of us. 
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deep dives into socialism ever 
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the language, breaking down the 
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figure out where this goes next.
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terrifying when you dig into it.
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So how in the world are these 
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the fringes? 
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controlling 345 years down the 
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points? 
How did they infiltrate and how 

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do they grab control? 
That is a great question. 

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I wish more people were asking 
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OK, So do you know how back in 
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because conservatives were 
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social media and payment 
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And they were like, we're going 
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economy. 
We're going to build all of our 

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own, like industry and like 
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that and and they did it quietly
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that they were doing it. 
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took over culture. 
They publish more information 

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about their views than any other
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anywhere. 
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political factions, but but 
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publishing their ideas, They're 
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doing trainings. 
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classes. 
They they have all their own 

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publishing houses. 
Socialists have like dozens and 

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dozens and dozens of socialist 
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are. 
Recently churning out books that

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you don't know are coming from 
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They're ending up in your 
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they're ending up in college 
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Socialists have their own 
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major city in this country. 
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cities, they're in red cities 
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these ideas they've taken over 
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So anytime you're in a library 
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books that's put together by 
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see book list book clubs coming 
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using those to push their ideas 
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They did that a long time ago. 
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higher education, they took over
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the teachers are being trained. 
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into your K through 12 schools. 
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not 3 generations of teachers 
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entirely in schools of education
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theory. 
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think they're conservative or 
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they're far left. 
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The only way that they've ever 
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And so they're teaching these 
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understanding exactly what 
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And a lot of people think this 
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know, social justice being fair 
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That's not what it is. 
It's it's actively pushing queer

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Marxism into our public schools.
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a sudden seeing an explosion of 
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schools where you know. 3040% 
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districts are having these 
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our kids are queer. 
Well, that's not real. 

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That's manufactured and it's 
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left socialist. 
It makes some sense. 

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You you brought up libraries. 
I wanted to touch on that. 

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You sent me a couple of your 
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So folks, we're going to play 
some of these things in set this

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clip up. 
This is from Emily Drabinski, 

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who is the head librarian. 
She's in charge of what, the 

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Librarians Association of 
America or something. 

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Yeah, Emily Drabinski is the 
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American Library Association, 
which they have all these state 

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library association. 
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to influence library policy all 
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And she was actually supposed to
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2023 conference, and because she
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Slash for tweeting that she was 
a Marxist lesbian and had at the

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head of libraries. 
What would be the backlash on 

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that? 
What's wrong with being a 

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Marxist lesbian in 2023? 
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canceling the speech but Emily 
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and I was actually not even sure
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I went to the conference, but I 
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her in a session about advancing
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schools, which they're doing to 
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We'll talk about that in a 
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to be in the session. 
She was just running around 

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attending sessions with all 
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And how I got this clip was so 
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is you have a panel presentation
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the time for the audience to 
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and say whatever they want to 
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And so Emily came up to the 
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Do they get these? 
Do they get these? 

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They do. 
There are so less they're so 

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less aggressive to just do a 
clicky sound. 

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But there's no there's no rhyme 
or reason to when they snap 

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versus when they clap. 
So it's kind of like they never 

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know one really ever knows what 
to do. 

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But like socialists, they don't 
actually make sense. 

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They they make more sense 
sometimes than you might think. 

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Why do we talk about Abolish the
Family? 

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I'll tell you that, yeah, we 
saved a good clip for that. 

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So we're gonna when I saw that 
last night, I was like, we're 

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definitely playing about the, 
what are they called family 

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abolitionists? 
Oh yeah, these are, these are 

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the crazy people. 
But but like, listen, like, all 

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of this stuff is connected, 
though. 

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And I'll explain how it's 
connected. 

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But in regards to Emily, yeah, 
She just came up to the 

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microphone and announced that, 
hi, I'm Emily. 

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I'm a librarian. 
I was literally sitting right 

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next to the microphone when this
happened. 

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And I recognized her voice and I
was like, oh, like. 

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She's here. 
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Library should be a site of 
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Why not? 
All right, so we're gonna play 

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that clip. 
This is video number one. 

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It's actually an audio clip, but
you'll see a little bit of 

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video. 
So we'll go ahead and run that 

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right now when you're ready. 
Right. 

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So. 
This comrade will. 

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Be followed by the comrade in 
the green, followed by the 

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comrade here the comrades I'm. 
A librarian. 

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I just wanted to thank you. 
I just want to say thank you for

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bringing up libraries and 
classroom libraries, but also 

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school libraries of all kinds of
public libraries and higher 

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education libraries, but I've 
been attacked in similar ways. 

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But I think. 
Your point that public education

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needs to be assigned a social 
organizing library is really 

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viewed too, and that hasn't. 
I haven't seen that for the 

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working in libraries, but I 
think there's real opportunity 

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here to both connect with 
company and public education 

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with company and libraries. 
We need some help in the in the 

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library and we need to. 
Be on the agenda. 

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Social organizing. 
So thank you for your. 

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Work and stick your neck out and
find out at a difficult time. 

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It's an inspiration to me. 
Oh good, okay. 

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So some beta male also said 
thank you for sticking your neck

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out, for being a librarian. 
I think that's lovely. 

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What is you made? 
A mail that was Jesse Hagopian. 

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We're going to hear from Jesse 
Hagopian in a second, even 

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better tell you so you're 
filming what, what is your, your

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filming setup look like? 
Because I saw the pictures from 

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Instagram or I saw the video 
you're wearing like a black 

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mask, right? 
And and you're. 

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So Incognito. 
So funny story about this. 

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So because I've been streaming 
far left socialism for over a 

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year now. 
The socialists don't like this 

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and they know who I am. 
And sometimes, I mean, you see 

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my Twitter feeds, sometimes I 
can be a little antag. 

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Well, I don't just antagonize 
conservatives, I also antagonize

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socialists. 
And so actually going into the 

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socialism conference, they 
preemptively banned me from the 

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conference for a code of conduct
violation just based on like 

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knowing who you were. 
Just knowing who I were, I got 

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this whole e-mail saying you are
not allowed at the socialism 

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conference. 
But I had already signed up for 

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the socialism conference under a
fake name like several weeks 

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before that. 
And so they didn't know the fake

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name I signed up as. 
I went as a nonbinary socialist.

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And so I had to have this whole 
disguise because. 

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Again, like they knew who I was.
So these glasses that you're 

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seeing me wear now, I had never 
worn these glasses publicly 

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before because this was part of 
my disguise. 

458
00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:42,400
I dyed my hair. 
I had. 

459
00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,080
They did actually have a mask 
mandate at the conference. 

460
00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,000
And so I did have to wear a mask
that was, oh, that's even 

461
00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:48,640
better, though that helps you. 
Oh yeah. 

462
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:50,120
I was like, this is great. 
It's like perfect. 

463
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,480
I was wearing that mask 
everywhere too. 

464
00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:53,280
I was like, wearing that mask, 
walking down the street. 

465
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,280
I felt like such a moron. 
But like, whatever. 

466
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,040
I had my hat. 
I had my non. 

467
00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,440
It's like a black silk mask. 
So you look kind of ninja like. 

468
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,080
It also was a fake. 
It was a fake mask, too, because

469
00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:04,440
I like to be able to breathe 
air. 

470
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:07,320
It just looks, it looks real. 
So it it puts on a good show. 

471
00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,720
But yeah, so I actually had to 
disguise myself and I was so 

472
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,840
afraid that they were going to 
recognize me that I actually had

473
00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560
a friend of mine go and pick up 
my badge for me because I 

474
00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:17,160
registered under a nonbinary 
name. 

475
00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:17,840
So. 
So. 

476
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,120
So I didn't like anyone could 
have picked it up. 

477
00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,280
But this was this was literally 
my recording set up right here. 

478
00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,040
This little finger. 
And This is why things are a 

479
00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,760
little bit. 
And actually that session was 

480
00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,120
the first time I'd ever used 
this. 

481
00:20:28,120 --> 00:20:30,040
So it was like, why there's a 
little bit of interference. 

482
00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,240
But you just stick it in your 
pockets like a little $35 thing.

483
00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,640
And you know, I didn't, I didn't
know going into the socialism 

484
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,240
conference if I was actually 
going to get anything. 

485
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,120
I didn't know Emily Drapinski 
was going to be there. 

486
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,600
And but it ended up working out 
pretty well. 

487
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,840
And I'll tell you what, between 
the time when I recorded that 

488
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,160
clip and the walk back to my 
hotel room, I I had so many 

489
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,480
talks with God on the way. 
But I was like, please, God, I 

490
00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,680
will never do anything bad 
again. 

491
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,080
If you just let this recording 
come out, just please. 

492
00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,440
And so it worked out OK. 
That's really fun stuff. 

493
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,360
Yeah having done surreptitious 
recordings before and and being 

494
00:21:00,360 --> 00:21:03,560
able to you know try I've 
infiltrated places as a as an 

495
00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,680
FBI agent doing it in an 
undercover surveillance role. 

496
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:07,920
It is it is a little nerve 
wracking especially when you 

497
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,160
think they're going to know who 
you are and and the number one 

498
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,080
thing is you got to be cool you 
got to act like you belong 

499
00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,520
there. 
So it's it's kind of a it's kind

500
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,480
of an interesting game if you 
haven't been doing that for a 

501
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,720
lot so you're in hostile 
territory there and and and your

502
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,160
antagonistic Twitter post. 
I think people have reached out 

503
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,440
and warned me about that. 
I got DM saying that hey I'm 

504
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,960
sure you did it's it's actually 
really funny to me. 

505
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,120
And let me just kind of say 
this. 

506
00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:30,680
You're what my dad would refer 
to as a shit disturber. 

507
00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:33,520
I would say it's just somebody 
who goes in and stirs it 

508
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,440
sometimes. 
And I have a whole family of 

509
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,200
those, so it's not a big deal 
for me talking to somebody that 

510
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:40,360
likes to poke the bear on either
side. 

511
00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,480
And I think I do the same. 
So, all right, so we're so we're

512
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,840
talking about this woman, she's 
librarian. 

513
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:45,760
She sets this up. 
She's she just got thanked for 

514
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,360
sticking her neck out by another
guy who I think I actually have 

515
00:21:48,360 --> 00:21:51,040
queued up as clip #2. 
What is the story with this guy 

516
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,040
Jesse? 
What's he all about? 

517
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,640
Oh, Jesse Hagopian is a problem 
man. 

518
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:57,920
Jesse Hagopian is a far left 
radical revolutionary socialist.

519
00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,480
He's part of something called 
The Tempest Collective, which is

520
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,880
a large, I mean, it's a pretty 
big continued socialist. 

521
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,400
Right. 
No, they're not Shakespearean. 

522
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,040
They want to overthrow our 
entire society, and they're all 

523
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,800
over the country. 
And and Jesse Hagopian, even 

524
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,080
better, is a high school teacher
in Seattle. 

525
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,320
He teaches for Garfield High 
School in Seattle. 

526
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,560
He is a member of Black Lives 
Matter in schools. 

527
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,560
He's a member of the Zen 
Education Project and Jesse 

528
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:24,000
Hagopian and is actively in this
clip, I believe, talking about 

529
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:25,960
the idea of fugitive pedagogy. 
Now this is. 

530
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:29,360
I know that that the Ala clip 
got a lot of play on social 

531
00:22:29,360 --> 00:22:31,880
media, but this clip from Jesse 
Hagopian is actually one of the 

532
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,720
more important clips that came 
out of the conference. 

533
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,360
The idea of fugitive pedagogy 
was a very big theme at this 

534
00:22:37,360 --> 00:22:38,720
conference. 
I heard about it in at least 

535
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,240
three different sessions where 
what they're doing is teachers 

536
00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,720
in Florida, let's say, where Ron
De Santis has banned the 

537
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,080
teaching of woke ideology, 
critical race theory, gender 

538
00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:51,040
ideology in schools. 
What they're doing is they're 

539
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:54,680
working with people like Jesse 
Hagopian to zoom him into their 

540
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,200
classes in Florida and let Jesse
Hugopi and teach the classes in 

541
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,080
Florida. 
And So what What this gives the 

542
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,480
teachers in Florida is plausible
deniability to say, oh, I didn't

543
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,720
know he was going to teach that 
band concept. 

544
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,680
Oh, and so the Florida teachers 
aren't actually teaching it, but

545
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,600
they're working with socialists 
out out of state to get them to 

546
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,360
teach the same concepts in their
classes. 

547
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,240
And this is an actual strategy 
for them. 

548
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,280
They call it fugitive pedagogy 
or smuggler pedagogy. 

549
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,920
We got to do that one more time 
really slowly because you and I 

550
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:25,920
speak very quickly. 
I I'm watching people the chat 

551
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240
go like both these people talk 
way too fast. 

552
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:29,240
I'm gonna have to watch this and
I'm. 

553
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,320
I'm one of the few podcasts. 
I think it and I'm sure that the

554
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,640
way that you speak is people 
have to watch it in like .75. 

555
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,600
So everyone else is watching 
everybody else in one you know 

556
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:43,000
1.5 they got to slow us down. 
Fugitive pedagogy is smuggling 

557
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:46,120
in a teacher from an alternate 
district who is basically not 

558
00:23:46,120 --> 00:23:48,960
going to be accountable to 
whatever the rules are, and then

559
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,420
doing the Oh my. 
Oops, we did it again. 

560
00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:54,060
Kind of routine, yeah. 
That's one. 

561
00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:55,780
That's one version of fugitive 
pedagogy. 

562
00:23:55,780 --> 00:23:58,540
Another version of it might just
be teaching banned ideas. 

563
00:23:58,540 --> 00:24:00,740
Because, I mean, I don't think 
people realize this. 

564
00:24:00,740 --> 00:24:02,660
Like, like, there's a lot of 
talk of school boards. 

565
00:24:02,660 --> 00:24:04,940
Like, school boards don't 
actually control curriculum 

566
00:24:04,940 --> 00:24:06,740
unless you live in Vermont or 
New Hampshire. 

567
00:24:06,740 --> 00:24:09,100
So, like, you can elect all the 
people, the school boards that 

568
00:24:09,100 --> 00:24:10,580
you want. 
There's nothing they can do to 

569
00:24:10,580 --> 00:24:13,540
influence the curriculum. 
And once the teacher closes the 

570
00:24:13,540 --> 00:24:15,420
classroom door, they can teach 
whatever they want. 

571
00:24:15,420 --> 00:24:18,340
So Jesse Hagopian also works for
an organization called 

572
00:24:18,340 --> 00:24:20,820
Rethinking Schools. 
This is a social justice 

573
00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:24,900
organization that explicitly 
creates social justice materials

574
00:24:25,100 --> 00:24:27,660
for teachers to use in the 
classroom that they don't have 

575
00:24:27,660 --> 00:24:29,100
to go through the school 
district to get. 

576
00:24:29,260 --> 00:24:31,540
They can just get it from this 
organization and it's really 

577
00:24:31,540 --> 00:24:32,860
cheap. 
I got a teacher planner from 

578
00:24:32,860 --> 00:24:34,740
them for like $8 or something 
like that. 

579
00:24:34,980 --> 00:24:38,140
And so and so like they are 
actively coming up with ways to 

580
00:24:38,300 --> 00:24:43,700
smuggle banned ideas into the 
classroom in defiance of state 

581
00:24:43,700 --> 00:24:45,380
laws. 
And they're, I'll tell you what,

582
00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:47,580
Kyle, they're waiting for a 
teacher in Florida to get 

583
00:24:47,580 --> 00:24:50,400
arrested. 
Like is going to pop off in 

584
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,160
Florida when one teacher gets 
arrested. 

585
00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:53,040
Just. 
We're looking for some 

586
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,720
martyrdom. 
It sounds like they're they're 

587
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:57,800
planning on flying people in 
from out of state when a teacher

588
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,650
gets arrested, yeah? 
All right, so let's play this 

589
00:25:00,650 --> 00:25:02,530
clip. 
Let's see what what Jesse has to

590
00:25:02,530 --> 00:25:05,370
say in his own words. 
And folks, if you're if you're 

591
00:25:05,370 --> 00:25:07,250
listening to this and you're 
thinking, man, that's really 

592
00:25:07,250 --> 00:25:08,810
hard to hear what the audio is. 
I know it's a little bit 

593
00:25:08,810 --> 00:25:10,330
difficult. 
You can always join our rumble 

594
00:25:10,330 --> 00:25:11,610
channel. 
You can check it on there on 

595
00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:14,570
rumbleitsrumble.com/kyle 
Seraphin and then you'll see the

596
00:25:14,610 --> 00:25:17,450
captions on there and we'll 
promote, we'll promote the sub 

597
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:18,490
stack. 
That's got all the stuff on here

598
00:25:18,490 --> 00:25:19,690
too, because there's a whole 
list of it, right. 

599
00:25:20,130 --> 00:25:21,450
People can come check this out. 
Okay. 

600
00:25:21,650 --> 00:25:25,090
So let's let's let's stream this
little clip here #2 if you would

601
00:25:25,090 --> 00:25:26,550
Ryan. 
All right. 

602
00:25:26,910 --> 00:25:28,910
Thank you, everybody. 
I'm Jesse Hagopian. 

603
00:25:28,910 --> 00:25:32,430
I'm a teacher in Seattle, and I 
work with Black Lives Matter at 

604
00:25:32,430 --> 00:25:36,870
school and the Zen Education 
Project and rethinking schools. 

605
00:25:37,470 --> 00:25:41,670
So I've actually got to zoom in 
and do meetings with classrooms 

606
00:25:41,670 --> 00:25:47,150
in Florida and with some bold 
teachers who invited us into the

607
00:25:47,150 --> 00:25:51,830
classroom in in the tradition of
fugitive pedagogy, you know, 

608
00:25:51,910 --> 00:25:54,950
smuggling in contraband 
curriculum. 

609
00:25:55,530 --> 00:26:00,210
You know, showing the film the 
rebellious life of Mrs. Rosa 

610
00:26:00,210 --> 00:26:04,410
Parks and then having us come 
and discuss systemic racism in a

611
00:26:04,410 --> 00:26:09,770
state where it's illegal. 
And so that that rebellion is, 

612
00:26:09,930 --> 00:26:13,970
is inspiring to me and telling 
teachers in my state to do this 

613
00:26:13,970 --> 00:26:16,290
work if they can do it in those 
conditions. 

614
00:26:16,290 --> 00:26:18,930
Right. 
So I thank you all for the work 

615
00:26:18,930 --> 00:26:21,410
you are doing, the fight that 
you're putting up, that's really

616
00:26:21,410 --> 00:26:26,330
a fight for all of us. 
Because we know what they are 

617
00:26:26,570 --> 00:26:31,290
incubating in Florida is about 
exporting it all across the 

618
00:26:31,290 --> 00:26:32,930
country. 
And we're already seeing that, 

619
00:26:32,930 --> 00:26:35,650
right? 
When Florida banned the AP 

620
00:26:35,650 --> 00:26:39,250
African American Studies 
curriculum, the response wasn't 

621
00:26:39,610 --> 00:26:42,730
a rebellion for ethnic studies 
all across the country. 

622
00:26:42,730 --> 00:26:46,970
The response from the College 
Board was, OK, cool, we'll cut 

623
00:26:46,970 --> 00:26:48,850
everything that you wanted out 
of it. 

624
00:26:49,210 --> 00:26:52,730
So the word systemic does not 
exist in AP. 

625
00:26:53,620 --> 00:26:56,340
African American curriculum 
anymore. 

626
00:26:56,340 --> 00:27:00,260
That is not an advanced course. 
If you can't talk about systemic

627
00:27:00,260 --> 00:27:02,940
racism, you're just lying about 
this country, right? 

628
00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:08,140
They, they are now exporting the
don't say gay, don't say trans 

629
00:27:08,420 --> 00:27:11,700
laws across the country now that
Florida is not the only state 

630
00:27:11,700 --> 00:27:14,340
now, right? 
So they are incubating this 

631
00:27:14,340 --> 00:27:17,780
fascism and and working on ways 
to export. 

632
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:20,260
Fascism, didn't he? 
One of the ways we need to 

633
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:23,420
understand what's happening 
right now to understand how to. 

634
00:27:23,620 --> 00:27:27,180
Needed this to look at the 
McCarthy era because the Red 

635
00:27:27,180 --> 00:27:30,700
Scare and the Lavender Scare are
the playbook. 

636
00:27:30,700 --> 00:27:34,260
I think that they're they're 
drawing from very consciously 

637
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:38,580
label anything that you don't 
like communism and then fire the

638
00:27:38,580 --> 00:27:41,340
people, right. 
So thousands of teachers lost 

639
00:27:41,340 --> 00:27:46,260
their jobs across the country as
a result of the Red Scare and 

640
00:27:46,340 --> 00:27:49,380
and the Lavender Scare. 
Actually, more people were fired

641
00:27:49,380 --> 00:27:51,580
from the federal government for 
being labeled. 

642
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:56,360
Homosexual than than even read, 
right? 

643
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,760
Even a communist, And 
specifically in Florida, the 

644
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,440
Johns Committee was set up to 
interrogate teachers, to bring 

645
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,920
them from their classrooms, to 
sit before a committee in the 

646
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:11,800
40s and 50s and have to defend 
their sexuality. 

647
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,320
And if you were just a single 
woman, a teacher, you were under

648
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,380
suspicion. 
Of being lesbian and were often 

649
00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:20,740
fired, right. 
And that they're very 

650
00:28:20,740 --> 00:28:23,780
consciously reviving that with 
with these laws. 

651
00:28:23,780 --> 00:28:26,980
And I think when we can see that
history and teach that history 

652
00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:30,620
to young people, to our social 
movements, it helps us 

653
00:28:30,620 --> 00:28:33,900
understand the tradition they 
stand in and the one that we 

654
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:36,100
stand in. 
Because what ended the McCarthy 

655
00:28:36,100 --> 00:28:39,260
era and the Reds and the Red 
Scare and the Lavender Scare was

656
00:28:39,260 --> 00:28:42,100
the eruption of the civil Rights
movement, the Black Power 

657
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:46,340
movement, the Gay liberation 
right, LGBTQ people fighting. 

658
00:28:46,780 --> 00:28:49,340
For their liberation and that 
that's really what I think it's 

659
00:28:49,340 --> 00:28:52,820
going to take today. 
And I'll just end by saying that

660
00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:56,100
the new law goes in the place 
that, that says that if you have

661
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:59,900
the wrong book in your classroom
about about race or sexuality, 

662
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,580
you can face a felony in 
Florida, right? 

663
00:29:02,860 --> 00:29:08,490
That you five years in jail. 
Right. 

664
00:29:08,530 --> 00:29:09,650
All right, let's. 
Let's cut that there. 

665
00:29:09,650 --> 00:29:11,370
And we're going to get some 
commentary on this, Ryan, if 

666
00:29:11,370 --> 00:29:14,170
that's good. 
So yeah, that's a that's a 

667
00:29:14,170 --> 00:29:16,210
perspective, huh? 
What a what a hot take this 

668
00:29:16,210 --> 00:29:17,770
gentleman has on. 
What's going on? 

669
00:29:18,050 --> 00:29:20,970
Like I said, he's dangerous. 
He's working with teachers all 

670
00:29:20,970 --> 00:29:22,810
over the country. 
He's creating curriculum that 

671
00:29:22,810 --> 00:29:24,330
teachers are using all over the 
country. 

672
00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:26,210
And there's a different clip, 
but I don't think you guys have 

673
00:29:26,210 --> 00:29:27,250
it loaded. 
But people can. 

674
00:29:27,410 --> 00:29:30,210
People can listen to it on the 
sub stack in which he is 

675
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:35,040
explicitly saying that the that 
socialists need to that that 

676
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,840
socialists need to prioritize 
education as their highest 

677
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,280
priority because it gives them 
access to 10s of millions of 

678
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,240
children. 
And by pushing anti racist 

679
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,000
education into schools, that is 
how they're going to create a 

680
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,600
socialist world. 
And so did. 

681
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,560
He bring up Howard Zin in there?
Is he part of the the Zin 

682
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,400
teachers? 
Is that what it was you want? 

683
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,040
To tell people who Howard Zin is
because you want something 

684
00:29:58,040 --> 00:29:59,600
funny. 
My wife grew up in New York. 

685
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,560
And she retold. 
She told me that the people's 

686
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:04,760
history was part of her 
curriculum in high school. 

687
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,840
And, you know, we're in our 40s,
so that goes back 25 years at 

688
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,080
this point where she was being 
taught that. 

689
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,760
And she thought nothing of it 
because, you know, she was 15 

690
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,680
years old. 
And that's just what you did, 

691
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,840
tell people about Howard Zinn 
and and what the Zinn Teachers 

692
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,360
Association is like. 
Howard Zinn is the author of 

693
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,760
People's History of the United 
States. 

694
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,880
It was the same with me. 
I went to Boston University in 

695
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,160
the in the early 2000s. 
You walk into the bookstore, 

696
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,640
there's people's history of the 
United States, like sitting 

697
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,400
right there, right. 
It was taught like it was no big

698
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,520
deal, but does he? 
He's, I'm not sure exactly how 

699
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,720
much involvement he has with the
Zen Education Project now, but 

700
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,280
the Zen Education Project is a 
far left radical teacher 

701
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,600
education project. 
We've actually started watching 

702
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,800
presentations from them on my 
YouTube channel. 

703
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:45,840
We started last week with just 
kind of going through some of 

704
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,760
their back catalog. 
And what you're finding is again

705
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:52,040
they're they're the ones pushing
this anti racist education into 

706
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,240
schools. 
And when they mean anti racist, 

707
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,400
they don't mean we're going to 
solve racism and everything's 

708
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,120
going to be nice and everyone's 
going to be polite, anti racist 

709
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,560
education, black matter 
education is pushing a far left 

710
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,880
political ideology into schools 
onto kids and it's it's it's not

711
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:10,440
even about race explicitly 
because socialists speak in a 

712
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,800
coded language and people really
need to understand this. 

713
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,040
I think one of the most 
important things anyone can do 

714
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,880
to fight back against this 
ideology is they have to learn 

715
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,920
the coded language that these 
people use. 

716
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,720
Anytime they're talking about 
race, they're not actually 

717
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:24,720
talking about race they're 
talking about capitalism. 

718
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,400
So it's a it's a misnomer. 
Same with fascism. 

719
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,440
The the the the definition that 
social have a fascism and I have

720
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:33,600
them on tape saying this several
times over. 

721
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Fascism to them means free 
market capitalism. 

722
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,000
Whiteness means capitalism. 
White supremacy means 

723
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,320
capitalism. 
We watched a Socialism Saturday 

724
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,400
about a month and a half ago 
that was literally about a book 

725
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,200
that said anti racism means anti
capitalism. 

726
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,400
So anytime they're not hiding it
at all you just have to look for

727
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,160
it. 
And so if you can like, if 

728
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,160
people can wrap their heads 
around the idea that almost 

729
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,240
everything socialists do when 
when it comes to race and and 

730
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,280
quite frankly, gender, is about 
abolishing the family, we'll 

731
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,360
talk about that in a second. 
But anything about race has to 

732
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,040
do with capitalism. 
So one of the people in the chat

733
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,560
just said these efforts are the 
Borg, they just want to 

734
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,960
assimilate everything. 
That's not a joke though. 

735
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:15,640
That's real. 
This is real life, yeah. 

736
00:32:16,100 --> 00:32:19,740
That's so wild for for those 
folks who need a pop culture 

737
00:32:19,740 --> 00:32:21,300
reference. 
If you if you're familiar with 

738
00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:25,020
the movie Goodwill hunting the 
great moment in the Harvard bar 

739
00:32:25,020 --> 00:32:29,180
where where what is it Matt 
Damon walks up and he he messes 

740
00:32:29,180 --> 00:32:31,300
with the grad student with the 
long hair who kind of looks like

741
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:34,700
a young Michael Bolton. 
He actually quotes Howard Zinn 

742
00:32:34,700 --> 00:32:37,140
and some other some of these 
other kind of types of this is 

743
00:32:37,300 --> 00:32:39,340
this goes back away. 
In fact, interestingly enough, 

744
00:32:39,620 --> 00:32:41,700
my buddy was probably at Boston 
University when you were there. 

745
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:44,820
My best friend growing up was 
there early 2000s, so. 

746
00:32:45,470 --> 00:32:49,470
So we've got this group and and 
everything equals whiteness and 

747
00:32:49,670 --> 00:32:51,190
and capitalism. 
These are all things that that 

748
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:52,350
are there. 
They're all standins for 

749
00:32:52,350 --> 00:32:53,750
capitalism. 
They're all trying to destroy 

750
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:55,150
the idea. 
Then then we're trying to 

751
00:32:55,150 --> 00:32:57,550
destroy the family. 
We have a clip from Kristen 

752
00:32:57,550 --> 00:32:59,150
Godfrey. 
What's Kristen Godfrey story and

753
00:32:59,150 --> 00:33:01,470
what is she all about? 
Oh, Kristen Godfrey is another 

754
00:33:01,470 --> 00:33:04,190
far left socialist activist. 
Kristen Godfrey works at the 

755
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:07,630
University of Arizona. 
She's the LGBTQ affairs director

756
00:33:07,630 --> 00:33:09,750
there. 
Prior to that, actually, she's 

757
00:33:09,910 --> 00:33:11,390
got. 
Like a really big forehead, 

758
00:33:11,390 --> 00:33:12,150
right? 
Like a six head. 

759
00:33:12,150 --> 00:33:15,390
She does a very big forehead. 
Yeah, I I spoke with a guy named

760
00:33:15,470 --> 00:33:18,430
Trevor Loudon who does this 
great job with Kiwiki where he's

761
00:33:18,430 --> 00:33:20,830
tracking a lot of these far left
radicals and he actually taught 

762
00:33:20,830 --> 00:33:24,510
me that Kristen Godfrey was 
involved in malice groups at the

763
00:33:24,510 --> 00:33:26,110
University of Tennessee, 
Knoxville. 

764
00:33:26,110 --> 00:33:28,390
So that's really great. 
And what you're going to hear in

765
00:33:28,390 --> 00:33:32,110
this clip is Kristen basically 
first of all, announcing that 

766
00:33:32,110 --> 00:33:35,830
she's teaching Marxist based 
queer liberation classes on the 

767
00:33:35,830 --> 00:33:37,870
campus of the University of 
Arizona. 

768
00:33:38,190 --> 00:33:41,830
She also brought a student with 
her to the conference, which I 

769
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:44,670
think that's a little bit weird 
to be bringing students to a 

770
00:33:44,670 --> 00:33:46,750
conference. 
And then kind of groomy. 

771
00:33:47,310 --> 00:33:49,150
Kind of groomy. 
And what people need to keep in 

772
00:33:49,150 --> 00:33:51,870
mind too, the University of 
Arizona is a is not just a 

773
00:33:51,870 --> 00:33:54,790
publicly funded taxpayer 
university, it's it's a land 

774
00:33:54,790 --> 00:33:58,550
grant university. 
And so and so this is, she's 

775
00:33:58,550 --> 00:34:02,590
using public dollars to actively
teach Marxism on this, this 

776
00:34:02,590 --> 00:34:04,310
taxpayer funded university 
campus. 

777
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:07,070
All right, let's roll this clip.
This is going to be #3 Ryan. 

778
00:34:07,070 --> 00:34:12,150
Let's see what we got. 
This comrade is helping us take 

779
00:34:12,230 --> 00:34:14,449
a check. 
Hi comrade, it's great talk 

780
00:34:15,850 --> 00:34:20,449
Kristen live in Tucson intensive
Collective and I wanted to share

781
00:34:20,489 --> 00:34:24,050
like a personal experience I'm 
experiencing at the University 

782
00:34:24,050 --> 00:34:25,969
of Arizona. 
And then I just have a couple 

783
00:34:25,969 --> 00:34:28,370
questions. 
And I'm like, I guess a similar 

784
00:34:28,370 --> 00:34:30,530
question is, if I'm right in 
Miami, like how to protect 

785
00:34:30,530 --> 00:34:33,170
teachers just thinking they're 
like what protection looks like.

786
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:37,420
Me and my coworker, I don't 
think they're here. 

787
00:34:37,420 --> 00:34:40,699
We teach a Marxist based clear 
liberation class for clear 

788
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:43,659
asset. 
Students acting as grace. 

789
00:34:44,620 --> 00:34:46,100
One of the students who took it 
was in the room. 

790
00:34:46,139 --> 00:34:48,820
Hi, Annie. 
Annie's always yelling at 

791
00:34:48,820 --> 00:34:50,580
somebody on campus, so I think 
they're talking about. 

792
00:34:52,659 --> 00:34:54,739
But yeah, we have the student 
for class. 

793
00:34:54,860 --> 00:34:58,500
I'm also the director of the 
LGBTQ Center at the University 

794
00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,220
of Arizona, so it's attached to 
the center. 

795
00:35:01,380 --> 00:35:03,780
And because we're teaching this 
class, Students for Justice and 

796
00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:07,260
Palestine students are have been
using the LGBTQ center to hold 

797
00:35:07,260 --> 00:35:09,500
meetings, just add their stuff 
there. 

798
00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:15,180
Israeli students found out and 
there was a lot of violence in 

799
00:35:15,180 --> 00:35:17,420
the space going up to 
Palestinian students saying they

800
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:20,420
don't want them there. 
And so because of this class 

801
00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:23,650
that we're teaching. 
Hello reached out to my boss and

802
00:35:23,650 --> 00:35:29,330
said that I was anti-Semitic and
so the L GB TQ center is in the 

803
00:35:29,450 --> 00:35:31,770
house in the in the office 
working inclusion. 

804
00:35:32,250 --> 00:35:34,850
But even with that, we have 
limited, I have done with 

805
00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:37,890
protecting the Diversity and 
Inclusion office, right. 

806
00:35:39,970 --> 00:35:43,170
So she picked a fight with the 
with the Israelis. 

807
00:35:43,170 --> 00:35:47,050
What is the connection between 
Palestine, a Muslim majority 

808
00:35:47,050 --> 00:35:49,020
area? 
That, I have to imagine, is 

809
00:35:49,020 --> 00:35:52,980
probably not all that friendly 
to her LGBTQI A+ agenda. 

810
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:55,980
And and whatever it is that 
she's pushing out there, 

811
00:35:56,420 --> 00:36:00,750
socialists really hate Israel. 
Yeah, but why They just they? 

812
00:36:01,150 --> 00:36:03,350
Israel's so tolerant compared to
the alternative. 

813
00:36:03,390 --> 00:36:06,150
Oh, I I agree with you. 
But they they they really 

814
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:08,750
dislike Israel. 
They they dislike US support for

815
00:36:08,750 --> 00:36:10,070
Israel. 
I don't actually know. 

816
00:36:10,110 --> 00:36:12,750
I I haven't dug deep into this 
yet to understand why. 

817
00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:16,790
But I I suspect it's because 
that Muslims and like 

818
00:36:16,790 --> 00:36:19,790
Palestinians have a higher level
on the woke oppression hierarchy

819
00:36:19,790 --> 00:36:22,270
which they call progressive 
stack, which is like, you know, 

820
00:36:22,270 --> 00:36:25,430
based on your race and your your
any any number of intersectional

821
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:27,470
characteristics they have more 
oppression points. 

822
00:36:27,470 --> 00:36:29,230
And so I suspect I have they do 
with that. 

823
00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:31,990
Isn't that so weird, though? 
Because it doesn't line up with 

824
00:36:32,030 --> 00:36:33,870
any logic at all. 
I mean, I guess that's the 

825
00:36:33,870 --> 00:36:36,790
cognitive dissonance of being a 
socialist when you're doing so 

826
00:36:36,790 --> 00:36:39,470
on your iPhone and all the other
sort of things that they benefit

827
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:42,390
from capital in a place that 
operates and was built based on 

828
00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:44,510
capitalist dollars. 
Oh, well, they're they're 

829
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:46,830
allowed to engage in capitalism.
This is actually a question that

830
00:36:46,830 --> 00:36:48,230
comes up. 
A lot of my channel is like, why

831
00:36:48,230 --> 00:36:50,190
are they selling books if they 
if they're if they're 

832
00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:51,710
socialists? 
Yeah, who benefits from the book

833
00:36:51,710 --> 00:36:53,270
sale? 
Well, in The Communist 

834
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:56,910
Manifesto, they literally say 
that you're allowed to engage in

835
00:36:56,910 --> 00:36:58,470
so many words. 
You're allowed to engage in 

836
00:36:58,590 --> 00:37:00,710
capitalism because you live in a
capitalist system. 

837
00:37:00,710 --> 00:37:02,710
You have to survive, you have to
make ends meet. 

838
00:37:02,910 --> 00:37:04,350
But you're not part of the 
bourgeois. 

839
00:37:04,350 --> 00:37:06,990
It's OK because like, you're not
part. 

840
00:37:06,990 --> 00:37:09,430
You just can't ever ascend to be
part of the bourgeois. 

841
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:11,230
That's really the only guidance 
that they have. 

842
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:14,620
How do you know when you're in 
the bourgeois property owner, 

843
00:37:14,620 --> 00:37:19,620
landowner, like, like major, 
major business owner and like, 

844
00:37:19,620 --> 00:37:22,980
so landlord, stuff like that. 
So, so socialists like their 

845
00:37:23,020 --> 00:37:25,780
their main agenda is obviously 
to like get rid of communist or 

846
00:37:25,860 --> 00:37:28,180
excuse me, get rid of capitalism
so they can usher in their 

847
00:37:28,180 --> 00:37:30,500
Marxist utopia. 
But really, it's about the 

848
00:37:30,580 --> 00:37:32,900
abolition of all private 
property. 

849
00:37:32,900 --> 00:37:34,020
That's what socialists care 
about. 

850
00:37:34,020 --> 00:37:35,820
And I'm actually going to set 
you up for this, abolish the 

851
00:37:35,820 --> 00:37:37,060
family thing that you want to 
do. 

852
00:37:37,300 --> 00:37:38,820
Because here's here's the deal, 
guys. 

853
00:37:38,980 --> 00:37:41,300
Socialists want to get rid of 
your ability to own your own 

854
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:45,100
house, your car, your business, 
an apartment building as like, a

855
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,500
landlord. 
Something like that. 

856
00:37:46,740 --> 00:37:50,660
But they also consider children 
to be private property of their 

857
00:37:50,660 --> 00:37:54,660
parents, and they consider it 
their job to liberate children 

858
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,980
from the adult supremacy that is
oppressing them as private 

859
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:03,660
property of their parents. 
Adult supremacy, which I often 

860
00:38:04,020 --> 00:38:06,940
refer to as people who know 
what's going on, Supremacy, 

861
00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:09,340
which is really good. 
And then it makes sense that 

862
00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:12,620
they want a captive audience of 
fools that don't know anything 

863
00:38:13,340 --> 00:38:13,940
we. 
Please laugh. 

864
00:38:13,940 --> 00:38:15,620
I got a six year old right now. 
I've got a six year old and I 

865
00:38:15,660 --> 00:38:17,620
got a four year old and I got a 
2 year old and I got a newborn. 

866
00:38:17,620 --> 00:38:21,220
And when when we look at our 
kids, my 6 year old is very, 

867
00:38:21,220 --> 00:38:23,900
very bright for six year old. 
And she has a lot of things to 

868
00:38:23,900 --> 00:38:27,940
say that are superior to her, 
her colleagues, but she's six 

869
00:38:27,940 --> 00:38:30,940
years old like that is not a 
fully programmed, you know, 

870
00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:32,580
operating system in any way, 
shape or form. 

871
00:38:32,740 --> 00:38:34,700
And occasionally she lets me 
know that by telling me things 

872
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:37,660
that are completely absurd in a 
very sophisticated way. 

873
00:38:37,860 --> 00:38:39,940
She says things that are clearly
not true because she has no 

874
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:41,620
experience. 
So even though she may be very 

875
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:44,130
bright, she has no wisdom. 
And that seems like where these 

876
00:38:44,130 --> 00:38:46,930
socialists seem to come from. 
They they've got some ability to

877
00:38:46,930 --> 00:38:49,170
process. 
They have some complex words and

878
00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:51,050
structures, They don't know 
anything. 

879
00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:52,530
How do they? 
How do they exist in the world 

880
00:38:52,530 --> 00:38:54,450
and know nothing about the way 
the world works? 

881
00:38:55,090 --> 00:38:57,610
Because they only ever talk to 
other socialists. 

882
00:38:57,610 --> 00:38:59,850
They live in these socialist 
ecosystems like I said they 

883
00:38:59,850 --> 00:39:01,450
have. 
There are dozens of socialist 

884
00:39:01,450 --> 00:39:03,210
book publishers that are 
constantly churning out 

885
00:39:03,210 --> 00:39:05,410
socialist books. 
They have socialist book clubs, 

886
00:39:05,410 --> 00:39:07,730
They have they. 
They they have socialist 

887
00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:10,050
bookstores, they have socialist 
gathering, socialist parties, 

888
00:39:10,050 --> 00:39:12,970
socialist subculture. 
And so they're only ever talking

889
00:39:12,970 --> 00:39:15,970
to other socialists and a lot of
them also come out of academia. 

890
00:39:16,170 --> 00:39:19,450
Listen, the people at the 
socialism conference, I know who

891
00:39:19,450 --> 00:39:21,810
people think socialists and and 
far left activists are. 

892
00:39:21,810 --> 00:39:23,730
They think they're like the pink
haired people that are like 

893
00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:26,610
doing crazy things and falling 
on the street and they do do 

894
00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:28,770
that. 
But these are academics. 

895
00:39:28,770 --> 00:39:30,850
These are like the next level 
above that. 

896
00:39:30,850 --> 00:39:33,450
And so they're constantly 
reading, they're constantly 

897
00:39:33,450 --> 00:39:36,250
talking to each other, but they 
only do it in this, in this 

898
00:39:36,250 --> 00:39:38,810
enclosed ecosystem. 
So we're seeing the foot 

899
00:39:38,810 --> 00:39:41,250
soldiers with the purple hair 
and the megaphones, but these 

900
00:39:41,250 --> 00:39:43,090
are the generals that are behind
there that are marshalling the 

901
00:39:43,090 --> 00:39:44,210
troops. 
Or maybe they're that, maybe 

902
00:39:44,210 --> 00:39:45,290
they're the field level 
officers. 

903
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:47,490
These are the captains in the 
and the majors that are making 

904
00:39:47,490 --> 00:39:48,610
it happen. 
Precisely. 

905
00:39:48,610 --> 00:39:50,050
Yep. 
OK, so who's the general who's 

906
00:39:50,050 --> 00:39:51,850
out there that's given the 
marching orders to these wild 

907
00:39:51,850 --> 00:39:53,670
animals? 
Well, that that's the scary 

908
00:39:53,670 --> 00:39:56,750
thing is there is no general and
it's an entirely decentralized 

909
00:39:56,750 --> 00:39:59,710
initiative. 
And it is, no, but it is, 

910
00:39:59,710 --> 00:40:00,750
though. 
They're creating these 

911
00:40:00,750 --> 00:40:03,350
collectivists, these these 
collective groups all over the 

912
00:40:03,350 --> 00:40:05,790
country. 
And they're, they're organizing 

913
00:40:05,790 --> 00:40:08,030
locally, but then also they 
organize nationally. 

914
00:40:08,030 --> 00:40:11,150
So for example, you'll have like
the Denver Communists were at 

915
00:40:11,150 --> 00:40:13,430
the socialism conference and 
they had really cool tshirts, 

916
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:15,350
which is how you all knew that 
they were all part of the Denver

917
00:40:15,350 --> 00:40:17,070
Communists because they were all
advertising it. 

918
00:40:17,310 --> 00:40:19,590
The Denver Communists are part 
of this thing called the 

919
00:40:19,590 --> 00:40:22,270
Firebrand Collective, which is a
national collective. 

920
00:40:22,630 --> 00:40:25,430
Firebrand is extremely far left,
and they don't actually even 

921
00:40:25,430 --> 00:40:28,150
allow their members to be part 
of the Democratic Socialists of 

922
00:40:28,150 --> 00:40:30,630
America, because the real 
socialists don't think the 

923
00:40:30,630 --> 00:40:32,670
Democratic Socialists are 
socialists enough because 

924
00:40:32,670 --> 00:40:35,310
they're still too close to 
capitalism, and so they don't 

925
00:40:35,310 --> 00:40:36,590
even allow them to be a part of 
it. 

926
00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:39,230
The Firebrand Collective is 
organizing with the Seattle 

927
00:40:39,230 --> 00:40:43,030
Revolutionary Socialists and the
Boston Revolutionary Socialists 

928
00:40:43,270 --> 00:40:45,950
and and so it's like they're 
creating these localized groups,

929
00:40:45,950 --> 00:40:48,030
but then they're also like 
connecting with each other 

930
00:40:48,030 --> 00:40:49,990
nationally. 
And if people think this is just

931
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:51,590
happening in blue cities, 
they're wrong. 

932
00:40:51,790 --> 00:40:54,630
There was a whole contingent 
from Oklahoma at the Socialism 

933
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:56,190
conference. 
There was a whole contingent 

934
00:40:56,390 --> 00:40:59,070
from South Dakota. 
They had an entire session about

935
00:40:59,070 --> 00:41:02,870
organizing in the South, going 
into explicitly red areas to 

936
00:41:02,870 --> 00:41:05,030
push their ideology. 
There was a whole session about 

937
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:07,550
organizing in Florida and all 
the different social justice 

938
00:41:07,550 --> 00:41:10,390
things they're doing there. 
And so they're not just staying 

939
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:13,750
in the cities, they're going out
into where other people live to.

940
00:41:14,350 --> 00:41:15,590
Fantastic. 
I like it. 

941
00:41:15,590 --> 00:41:17,710
OK, folks, in the comments, 
first of all, hit the like 

942
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:19,670
button if you're watching here 
live, and we do appreciate you 

943
00:41:19,670 --> 00:41:22,390
doing that in the comments, I've
been thinking about starting a 

944
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:25,710
boating accident collective. 
Many people who own firearms 

945
00:41:25,710 --> 00:41:28,470
will always say, I had a bunch 
of guns and they were really 

946
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:30,910
cool, but I lost them all in a 
boating accident. 

947
00:41:30,910 --> 00:41:33,110
They're in the bottom of a lake 
or river or the ocean, and 

948
00:41:33,110 --> 00:41:35,030
that's kind of like a thing that
people say to keep themselves 

949
00:41:35,030 --> 00:41:36,790
off the government radar. 
I've been thinking about 

950
00:41:36,790 --> 00:41:38,270
starting the boating accident 
collective. 

951
00:41:38,270 --> 00:41:40,990
This is for people who are poor 
pilots of their own boat and 

952
00:41:40,990 --> 00:41:42,310
seem to have lost all their 
guns. 

953
00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:44,300
If you guys are interested in 
joining the Boating Act and 

954
00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:45,980
Collective, put that in the 
comments below. 

955
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:47,620
I want to see what our interest 
level looks like. 

956
00:41:47,620 --> 00:41:48,740
I think that'll be fun. 
Okay. 

957
00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:51,460
Our clip right now is going to 
be coming from Sophie Lewis. 

958
00:41:51,460 --> 00:41:53,620
Sophie Lewis seems like a 
radical, wild person. 

959
00:41:54,020 --> 00:41:56,060
So if we're going to 
decentralize everything, we're 

960
00:41:56,060 --> 00:41:58,420
going to get rid of everything. 
And this, I think, is actually 

961
00:41:58,420 --> 00:42:00,020
coming from you commenting on 
her. 

962
00:42:00,020 --> 00:42:01,020
So we'll play this for a little 
bit. 

963
00:42:01,180 --> 00:42:03,220
In fact, why don't you just tell
us where to stop and then we'll 

964
00:42:03,220 --> 00:42:05,980
give you commentary. 
Ryan, if you're queuing up video

965
00:42:05,980 --> 00:42:09,880
#4, we're going to hear about. 
The family abolitionist 

966
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,480
movement. 
Everyone knows families are a 

967
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,480
real problem, so let's see if we
can talk about that. 

968
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,440
Let's go ahead and roll that 
clip, which is what is family 

969
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,640
abolition? 
And how is it different from how

970
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,200
its attractors might present it?
And even how people who might be

971
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,200
hear the word for the first time
and and what their responses 

972
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:28,000
might be. 
How? 

973
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,000
What is family abolition and and
how is it a little bit different

974
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,560
from just putting those two 
words together? 

975
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:39,650
Yeah, so. 
I think of abolition of the 

976
00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:45,730
family as pretty much synonymous
with the deprivatization of 

977
00:42:45,730 --> 00:42:50,810
care. 
In society, the deprivatization 

978
00:42:50,810 --> 00:42:54,810
of care Okay, First off, pop 
quiz, what does abolition mean? 

979
00:42:56,730 --> 00:43:00,450
It's not complicated, but but 
like so, she equates the 

980
00:43:00,490 --> 00:43:05,090
abolition of the family to the 
deprivatization of care. 

981
00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:09,500
What happens? 
Who is in charge of caring for 

982
00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:16,580
people when we deprivatize care?
Is she going to tell us? 

983
00:43:17,460 --> 00:43:20,140
Yep. 
Abolish me anytime you hear 

984
00:43:20,140 --> 00:43:22,380
abolition to get rid. 
Of your live chat to. 

985
00:43:22,420 --> 00:43:27,820
Get rid of to get rid of if they
also might say liberation, 

986
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:31,260
liberation. 
Anytime you hear liberation, 

987
00:43:31,460 --> 00:43:36,510
liberate yourself from. 
Abolish to get rid of liberate, 

988
00:43:36,590 --> 00:43:41,110
to free yourself from. 
Anytime you hear the words 

989
00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:45,550
abolition or liberation, you 
need to think socialism because 

990
00:43:45,550 --> 00:43:49,110
what they mean is abolish the 
current system. 

991
00:43:49,390 --> 00:43:52,630
Liberate you from the system. 
And it doesn't matter if they're

992
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:56,390
talking about race or gender or 
the family or any of these 

993
00:43:56,390 --> 00:44:00,670
things, it always leads to 
overthrowing the system. 

994
00:44:00,870 --> 00:44:03,670
And yes, when she is saying the 
deep. 

995
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:09,390
Privatization of care. 
What she means is that she wants

996
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:15,950
mommy government to be in charge
of caring for people, and that 

997
00:44:15,950 --> 00:44:19,990
includes people who are little. 
That includes people who are 

998
00:44:19,990 --> 00:44:22,470
sick. 
That includes people who are 

999
00:44:22,510 --> 00:44:27,270
elderly. 
Deprivatization, deprivatization

1000
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:33,310
of care means that she wants. 
Everyone else to be responsible 

1001
00:44:33,390 --> 00:44:37,190
for you and your family members?
Really. 

1002
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:43,750
Think about that if you are 
afraid of things you're hearing 

1003
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:48,830
in Canada around them, 
incentivizing people to, well, 

1004
00:44:49,550 --> 00:44:53,030
not remain on this planet. 
All right, let's let's get live 

1005
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:55,630
Carlin's reaction on this stuff,
too, Instead of instead of tape.

1006
00:44:55,630 --> 00:44:56,630
Carlin. 
And you know, and I'll tell you 

1007
00:44:56,630 --> 00:44:58,510
why. 
Deprivatism. 

1008
00:44:58,590 --> 00:45:02,780
You want to of care? 
So here, here's the reason why I

1009
00:45:02,780 --> 00:45:06,660
I want live, Carla, because you 
talk about 40% faster right now.

1010
00:45:06,660 --> 00:45:10,380
And that's where my energy I 
thought there was more Sophie in

1011
00:45:10,380 --> 00:45:11,900
that clip, too. 
I thought there was too. 

1012
00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,900
I was sitting here with that. 
There was a little bit of intro 

1013
00:45:14,900 --> 00:45:17,140
that we cut out which probably 
would have been useful as the 

1014
00:45:17,180 --> 00:45:20,340
the interviewer was her talking.
If you want me to I got I can 

1015
00:45:20,460 --> 00:45:23,740
just move it Is is I I can 
explain like OK so. 

1016
00:45:23,740 --> 00:45:26,340
I think we've had, we have the 
taste of like and also where is 

1017
00:45:26,340 --> 00:45:28,100
she from? 
Is she from the US? 

1018
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:31,380
No, Sophie is from the US. 
Sophie lives in Sophie. 

1019
00:45:31,420 --> 00:45:33,460
Sophie is my favorite. 
Abolish the family, Sophie. 

1020
00:45:33,460 --> 00:45:35,340
But she has like kind of a posh 
accent. 

1021
00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:38,900
She does because she went to 
Oxford Darling and so and it is 

1022
00:45:38,900 --> 00:45:40,620
a fake accent. 
It's not actually her real 

1023
00:45:40,620 --> 00:45:43,260
accent. 
She totally crap and and so and 

1024
00:45:43,260 --> 00:45:46,700
so she actually that that talk 
was at the University of 

1025
00:45:46,700 --> 00:45:51,360
Pennsylvania where Sophie is is 
like a visiting scholar at the 

1026
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,560
University of Pennsylvania. 
So these ideas are getting 

1027
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,200
pushed through the Ivy League 
schools. 

1028
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,160
Sophie is also lectured at other
Ivy League schools like Brown 

1029
00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,960
University and and done book 
tours all over the country. 

1030
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,400
Sophie has written two books 
called the first one is called 

1031
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,280
Feminism Against Family Full 
Surrogacy now and it talks about

1032
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,000
how dangerous it is for people 
to give birth and so why would 

1033
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,920
people even want to go through 
that We might as well have 

1034
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,480
surrogacy and the second one is 
called Abolish the Family. 

1035
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,480
So it's like pretty on the on 
the nose and and so so I 

1036
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:21,600
actually covered this quite a 
bit. 

1037
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,880
And So what people need to 
understand about this is again 

1038
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,200
going back to the idea that 
social socialists are like 

1039
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,000
Scientologists and that they 
think that children are little 

1040
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:32,320
people that are just like fully 
capable of making their own 

1041
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,720
decisions and things like that 
and that's why they need to be 

1042
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,720
liberated from their parents. 
But but bigger picture, 

1043
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,480
socialists believe that they 
cannot get rid of capitalism 

1044
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,440
until they abolish the private 
biological nuclear family. 

1045
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,200
This is real. 
There were two sessions about 

1046
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:51,840
this at the socialism 
conference. 

1047
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:54,600
Sophie spoke twice at the 
socialism conference. 

1048
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:58,120
And so, and so they are actually
putting methods in place through

1049
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,880
architecture, through what they 
call radical revolutionary 

1050
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,000
architecture, to try to put 
mechanisms in place that 

1051
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,400
dissuade people from staying in 
the private nuclear family. 

1052
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,160
Like, for instance, do you 
remember when Joe Biden wanted 

1053
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,640
to get rid of gas stoves? 
This is a real thing that 

1054
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,080
socialists are pushing because 
socialists want to abolish all 

1055
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,640
of our private kitchens. 
They want food to be served in 

1056
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,800
the collective commune where you
don't need a private kitchen, 

1057
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,880
you don't need to make your own 
food. 

1058
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,840
You can just go to the commune 
and get your get your food where

1059
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,200
the people who are assigned to 
cook the food will prepare the 

1060
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,160
food and you're going to have 
everything you need and it's 

1061
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:34,200
going to be great and you won't 
even want your private kitchen 

1062
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:35,800
anymore because it's too much of
A hassle. 

1063
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200
That's one of the things they're
doing to abolish the family. 

1064
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:41,160
The other big thing that they're
doing to try to abolish the 

1065
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,640
family goes back to gender 
theory, queer theory, queer 

1066
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:47,960
Marxism being pushed into 
schools any anytime you see them

1067
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:52,040
talking about non binary. 
So there's a difference between 

1068
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:56,680
L GB T and queer L GB T are all 
about identities, who you love, 

1069
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,000
who you want to have sex with 
and how you like, what you want 

1070
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,600
to do with your body. 
Essentially how you want to 

1071
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,750
present to the world queer has 
nothing to do with that. 

1072
00:48:04,990 --> 00:48:08,750
People who are trans and gay are
not automatically queer and you 

1073
00:48:08,750 --> 00:48:12,870
don't have to be queer. 
You don't have to be gay or 

1074
00:48:12,870 --> 00:48:14,630
trans to be queer. 
You can be a straight sis 

1075
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:16,030
whatever person to be queer 
right? 

1076
00:48:16,270 --> 00:48:20,150
Queer is an identification with 
a far left political ideology 

1077
00:48:20,430 --> 00:48:25,120
and anytime you see the term non
binary, they them, she they, he,

1078
00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:29,120
they, any of these things that 
is a specific affiliation with 

1079
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:33,880
queer Marxism that is designed 
to abolish the gender binary 

1080
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,080
entirely. 
It's a virtue signal to each 

1081
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:37,520
other too, right? 
I mean, they're basically 

1082
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,840
signaling to each other my queer
identity. 

1083
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,800
That means that we're part of 
the same team. 

1084
00:48:42,230 --> 00:48:44,510
Crazy team it. 
Well, it is, but I'll I'll give 

1085
00:48:44,510 --> 00:48:45,950
you one more step further than 
that. 

1086
00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:50,390
So, So top surgery is considered
to be one of the ultimate acts 

1087
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:53,470
that you can do to show loyalty 
to the political system and I 

1088
00:48:53,470 --> 00:48:54,670
know. 
What that is, by the way, so 

1089
00:48:54,710 --> 00:48:57,990
top, top surgery, when, when, 
when, when girls get their boobs

1090
00:48:57,990 --> 00:49:01,070
cut off and they have the lines 
under their their chest for like

1091
00:49:01,070 --> 00:49:02,390
the rest of their lives. 
Yeah. 

1092
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:05,190
So this is actually there's a 
book called Transgender Marxism 

1093
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:08,670
where in the introduction they 
talk about how having trans 

1094
00:49:08,670 --> 00:49:11,750
surgery is basically your 
ultimate commitment to this 

1095
00:49:12,230 --> 00:49:15,430
black political ideology because
it's something that you can't 

1096
00:49:15,430 --> 00:49:18,670
regrow your boobs, right? 
And so and so that is actually, 

1097
00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:21,950
that is a giant virtue signal to
the queer Marxist ideology. 

1098
00:49:22,550 --> 00:49:25,990
Is there an element of because 
you're sterile Once you've done 

1099
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:27,630
these things, there's no way 
that these people are gonna be 

1100
00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:29,470
fertile or most of them won't be
fertile. 

1101
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,400
So if they, if they commit to 
these transgender surgeries, 

1102
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,760
they basically are going to have
to recruit if they're going to 

1103
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:36,840
have children, right? 
Is that part of it? 

1104
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,520
Well, so a couple things on 
that. 

1105
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,080
Number one, they want all 
children born via surrogacy, so 

1106
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,920
this is not actually a problem 
for them. 

1107
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,360
But remember, these people have 
taken over the public schools. 

1108
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,960
And so for everyone who's saying
they're going to abort all their

1109
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:50,880
children, they're going to 
sterilize themselves. 

1110
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,560
They don't need to have their 
own children. 

1111
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,080
They're going to take yours and 
they're going to do it through 

1112
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,920
the public schools. 
If you're sending your kids to 

1113
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:03,120
public schools, they 100% will 
encounter this ideology there. 

1114
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,480
They might not encounter it in 
every single class, but they're 

1115
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,200
going to encounter it because 
it's being taught starting in 

1116
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,760
preschool in a lot of school 
districts. 

1117
00:50:10,070 --> 00:50:11,710
It's so wild. 
I I I think I tweeted out the 

1118
00:50:11,710 --> 00:50:13,870
other day that my kids are going
to end up being warlords because

1119
00:50:13,870 --> 00:50:16,030
these wackos are out there and 
we're homeschooling just like a 

1120
00:50:16,030 --> 00:50:18,390
bunch of right wing radicals at 
this point. 

1121
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:21,110
You know loving radicals because
they're little girls. 

1122
00:50:21,110 --> 00:50:24,190
I got I got three daughters but 
but they all know how to shoot 

1123
00:50:24,430 --> 00:50:26,630
and and my oldest is 6 if that 
tells you something. 

1124
00:50:26,630 --> 00:50:28,870
Like my 4 year old has gone out 
and done more live fire than a 

1125
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:30,570
lot of grown men have. 
Because. 

1126
00:50:30,570 --> 00:50:32,450
Because it's fun and she's 
hanging out with dad and she's 

1127
00:50:32,450 --> 00:50:34,250
learning what we do, so that's 
wild. 

1128
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:36,730
They also got into sex work as 
children. 

1129
00:50:36,730 --> 00:50:39,610
You mentioned that they think of
children as many adults. 

1130
00:50:39,610 --> 00:50:41,770
They're just in a smaller body. 
They have all the capabilities. 

1131
00:50:42,170 --> 00:50:44,650
Does that play into the idea of 
the the sex work that they were 

1132
00:50:44,650 --> 00:50:45,610
talking about? 
Oh yeah. 

1133
00:50:45,610 --> 00:50:48,090
This, this clip is actually was 
from a presentation called The 

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Politics of Childhood, which our
friend Sophie was actually one 

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00:50:51,130 --> 00:50:52,850
of the presenters in this 
presentation. 

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And so, yeah, So what you're 
going to hear this is a question

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00:50:55,690 --> 00:50:58,130
from the audience, which is why 
it was like an anonymous person,

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00:50:58,130 --> 00:50:59,090
because I didn't know their 
name. 

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00:50:59,570 --> 00:51:01,730
But you're going to hear them 
talking about the rights of 

1140
00:51:01,730 --> 00:51:04,090
child sex workers and how we 
need to protect those rights. 

1141
00:51:04,090 --> 00:51:06,250
And this is someone that was 
called Chanel, I think was the 

1142
00:51:06,250 --> 00:51:09,010
name that was thrown out there. 
OK, so unknown, unknown 

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00:51:09,010 --> 00:51:10,930
individual in the movement 
Chanel. 

1144
00:51:11,210 --> 00:51:13,010
That's going to be clip number. 
Fly play it whenever you're 

1145
00:51:13,010 --> 00:51:16,010
ready, Ryan. 
We usually have to give Ryan a 

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00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:18,690
queue up there. 
Guys, first of all, thank you 

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00:51:18,690 --> 00:51:20,650
both. 
I really appreciate your work. 

1148
00:51:20,650 --> 00:51:24,010
My name is Chanel and I miss sex
work after this. 

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00:51:24,010 --> 00:51:27,930
Working at the intersection of 
migrants, justice, capitalism 

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00:51:27,930 --> 00:51:30,770
and sex work. 
And we've been dealing with the 

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00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:33,250
child sex panic, you know, the 
child sex trafficking conspiracy

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00:51:33,290 --> 00:51:39,250
theories for since the late 90s.
And I had never until this panel

1153
00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:43,370
been like, Huh? 
What about young people in the 

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00:51:43,370 --> 00:51:48,770
sex industry as part of a 
children's liberation vision? 

1155
00:51:49,610 --> 00:51:52,290
Like, there's just like a utopia
I had never really thought of 

1156
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:57,090
before because the world feels 
so separated and the issue of, 

1157
00:51:57,570 --> 00:52:00,650
you know, youth and sex work is 
so incredibly loaded. 

1158
00:52:00,650 --> 00:52:04,450
Like, I was just like, I don't 
even know if I'd asked this 

1159
00:52:04,450 --> 00:52:07,530
question because it's been live 
stream like it is just so like 

1160
00:52:07,570 --> 00:52:10,010
you are. 
You are rolling into a lot of 

1161
00:52:10,010 --> 00:52:12,510
trouble. 
When you start talking about the

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00:52:12,510 --> 00:52:16,990
rights of young people in the 
sex industry, but young people 

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00:52:16,990 --> 00:52:21,550
in the sex industry deserve and 
need rights at minimum, actually

1164
00:52:21,550 --> 00:52:24,950
liberation and justice and thank
you. 

1165
00:52:26,990 --> 00:52:29,750
So, you know, I just was like, I
want to hear folks who are 

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00:52:29,750 --> 00:52:33,910
thinking about the liberation of
children and about movement for 

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00:52:33,910 --> 00:52:36,470
the liberation of children and 
how you understand. 

1168
00:52:37,140 --> 00:52:39,700
Just like to what extent you're 
thinking through, you know, 

1169
00:52:39,700 --> 00:52:43,100
because when that includes, 
like, how they marginalize kids,

1170
00:52:43,140 --> 00:52:46,540
kids on the street, Like that 
for sure includes people selling

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00:52:46,540 --> 00:52:49,100
sex, right? 
That includes people selling sex

1172
00:52:49,180 --> 00:52:53,260
to survive the the foster care 
systems and on the streets. 

1173
00:52:53,420 --> 00:52:55,460
And yeah, how are you thinking 
about that? 

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00:52:55,500 --> 00:53:00,580
Are you thinking about that? 
Is that are we just like, 

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00:53:00,580 --> 00:53:04,020
walking through too much trouble
to even try to address that when

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00:53:04,020 --> 00:53:05,300
talking about the rights of 
children? 

1177
00:53:05,300 --> 00:53:09,230
So I'm gonna put that up. 
Whoa. 

1178
00:53:09,870 --> 00:53:13,510
So it's super weird because like
I said, the cognitive distance 

1179
00:53:13,510 --> 00:53:16,230
there has to be so extreme. 
She'd literally just said people

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00:53:16,230 --> 00:53:18,750
who are trying to survive the 
foster system and are probably 

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00:53:18,750 --> 00:53:22,790
not involved in doing sex work, 
which we're going to just that's

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00:53:22,790 --> 00:53:26,150
a euphemism for prostitution. 
They are selling their physical 

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00:53:26,150 --> 00:53:29,270
bodies in order to survive. 
I don't think any of them would 

1184
00:53:29,270 --> 00:53:32,710
choose that life and they want 
to advocate on behalf of that 

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00:53:32,710 --> 00:53:34,940
choice. 
Quote UN quote Choice, which is 

1186
00:53:34,940 --> 00:53:35,980
not really a choice, I don't 
think. 

1187
00:53:35,980 --> 00:53:37,620
I think it's. 
I think it's like something they

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00:53:37,620 --> 00:53:39,780
got back to the corner. 
How do these people wake up in 

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00:53:39,780 --> 00:53:40,940
the morning and put their head 
together? 

1190
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:42,140
You think? 
I mean it. 

1191
00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:44,620
This was one of the most bizarre
clips of the entire conference. 

1192
00:53:44,620 --> 00:53:48,180
Now I should say, like, I 
understand there is a part of me

1193
00:53:48,180 --> 00:53:49,380
that does understand what 
they're saying. 

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00:53:49,380 --> 00:53:52,460
What there's one of the things 
she's saying is that kids who 

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00:53:52,460 --> 00:53:55,900
are doing this should not be 
arrested and put into prison, 

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00:53:55,900 --> 00:53:58,300
which I actually do agree with. 
Like like these kids are being 

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00:53:58,300 --> 00:54:00,260
put in a desperate situation. 
There should not be. 

1198
00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:02,540
I don't think anyone actually 
disagrees with that. 

1199
00:54:02,540 --> 00:54:03,580
I don't think anybody puts them 
in. 

1200
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:06,660
Prison, to be fair, yeah. 
And and and so and so that. 

1201
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:08,660
That's part of it. 
But but like, what was most 

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00:54:08,660 --> 00:54:12,140
disturbing to me about this is 
there was no pushback in the 

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00:54:12,140 --> 00:54:15,580
entire room on the idea that 
kids should be doing sex work. 

1204
00:54:15,780 --> 00:54:18,540
It was like, it was seriously, 
like, well, some kids just need 

1205
00:54:18,540 --> 00:54:19,980
to do sex work. 
And that's just the way it is 

1206
00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:21,420
that I was. 
And we have to liberate them so 

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00:54:21,420 --> 00:54:22,940
they can do so. 
Oh yeah. 

1208
00:54:22,940 --> 00:54:25,700
And and actually the the the 
answer she got to that question 

1209
00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:27,660
and there's a different clip 
that people can find on my sub 

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00:54:27,660 --> 00:54:31,220
stack was given by an associate 
professor at Johns Hopkins 

1211
00:54:31,220 --> 00:54:35,060
University who said essentially 
well if you want to advocate for

1212
00:54:35,060 --> 00:54:37,340
the rights of child sex workers 
you just need to find some 

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00:54:37,340 --> 00:54:40,340
friends and form a little group 
and you guys can go out there 

1214
00:54:40,340 --> 00:54:43,140
and advocate for them together. 
So you no one's hung out to dry 

1215
00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:46,780
and all that stuff and it was 
just like Oh my God no no this 

1216
00:54:46,780 --> 00:54:49,540
is a horrible horrible idea. 
Why it like why is no one 

1217
00:54:49,540 --> 00:54:51,620
pushing back on this. 
So that was really really 

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00:54:51,620 --> 00:54:52,500
disturbing to hear. 
I'm. 

1219
00:54:52,700 --> 00:54:54,940
Actually going to, I'm going to 
grab that because that was from 

1220
00:54:55,260 --> 00:54:57,300
this is the trans professor 
about the hormones. 

1221
00:54:57,340 --> 00:54:58,140
What's her name? 
Gil. 

1222
00:54:58,140 --> 00:54:59,740
Something or other. 
Yes, Jules and Jules. 

1223
00:54:59,740 --> 00:55:00,860
Gil. 
Gil Peterson. 

1224
00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:02,140
OK. 
Let me let me send that link 

1225
00:55:02,140 --> 00:55:03,540
over to Ryan so Ryan can pull 
that up. 

1226
00:55:03,740 --> 00:55:06,140
In a minute, the idea that first
of all, that they're little 

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00:55:06,140 --> 00:55:08,140
people and that they have 
autonomy and they're able to do 

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00:55:08,140 --> 00:55:10,500
that, that they would choose to 
be involved in prostitution is 

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00:55:10,500 --> 00:55:14,140
bizarre on every level to me. 
And then, look, I think probably

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00:55:14,140 --> 00:55:17,100
everybody in my audience, or at 
least a strong quotient of them 

1231
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:20,740
would say, yeah, you want to go 
out there and pay for sex with 

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00:55:20,740 --> 00:55:22,900
children. 
We have a wood chipper we'd like

1233
00:55:22,900 --> 00:55:25,660
to publicly fund and we'd like 
to find a place for you in that.

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00:55:25,860 --> 00:55:27,540
But not the kid. 
I mean, the kid needs to be 

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00:55:27,540 --> 00:55:29,580
rehabilitated. 
Probably will never, never be 

1236
00:55:29,580 --> 00:55:31,630
normal. 
After doing something like that,

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00:55:31,630 --> 00:55:34,110
and and it comes from a 
fundamental misunderstanding of 

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00:55:34,110 --> 00:55:35,750
children, do they not have 
children? 

1239
00:55:35,790 --> 00:55:37,550
Is that part of the gig that 
they just don't have kids? 

1240
00:55:37,550 --> 00:55:39,190
They don't know how they work. 
No, this is not. 

1241
00:55:39,190 --> 00:55:41,070
This is another misnomer that 
people have about them. 

1242
00:55:41,070 --> 00:55:43,630
They do have kids. 
In fact, the very first session 

1243
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:45,590
I went to at the socialism 
conference, I'm going to publish

1244
00:55:45,590 --> 00:55:47,310
all the materials of this. 
I haven't done it yet. 

1245
00:55:47,510 --> 00:55:50,910
Was called Kids as Comrades, in 
which they are actively setting 

1246
00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:54,870
up childcare programs to train 
children to be the future 

1247
00:55:54,870 --> 00:55:56,430
generation of socialist 
comrades. 

1248
00:55:56,430 --> 00:55:57,830
They have all sorts of plans for
this. 

1249
00:55:57,830 --> 00:56:00,670
They have games that they play 
with the kids to teach them how 

1250
00:56:00,670 --> 00:56:03,190
to be a part of the collective 
instead of competing against 

1251
00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:05,990
each other and stuff like that. 
So yeah, no, they have kids. 

1252
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:07,870
They've got a lot of kids and 
they're training them. 

1253
00:56:08,870 --> 00:56:12,910
Yeah, I always say that this 
sort of wokeism is kind of, or I

1254
00:56:12,910 --> 00:56:14,990
call it progressive Lesterism, 
which I think is probably more 

1255
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:16,190
accurate. 
It's a. 

1256
00:56:16,820 --> 00:56:19,420
It's a religion of converts, but
it sounds like they're also 

1257
00:56:19,740 --> 00:56:22,500
converting in their own home. 
So you have to, you have to 

1258
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:25,100
remember that a lot of these 
people are children of people 

1259
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,700
who got radicalized during, like
the civil rights movement. 

1260
00:56:27,940 --> 00:56:30,180
They got radicalized during the 
60s and the 70s. 

1261
00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:34,220
And so this is like second or 
third generation socialists that

1262
00:56:34,220 --> 00:56:36,820
are now like like teaching their
kids how to be the next 

1263
00:56:36,820 --> 00:56:38,300
generation of socialists after 
them. 

1264
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:40,800
It makes some sense to me 
though, because I always see 

1265
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,160
this too. 
It's like a first generation 

1266
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,320
feminism. 
I'm on board. 

1267
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:45,080
Women should have equal rights. 
If they want to do certain 

1268
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,920
things. 
They should be able to do 

1269
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,800
certain things. 
And then you start getting down 

1270
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,360
the line of like third 
generation feminism where 

1271
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,760
they're arguing basically for 
insanity, where they're like, 

1272
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,800
no, of course men should be able
to come into women's locker 

1273
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:55,680
rooms. 
And you're like, how did you 

1274
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,400
guys get so backwards? 
How did you lose your mind in 

1275
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:00,520
the way, like that is the lead. 
That's that's internalized 

1276
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:02,360
misogyny and my wife calls it. 
I just think. 

1277
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:04,640
And my wife has a, I mean she 
has a background in mental 

1278
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:06,000
health as well. 
She's her masters is in 

1279
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,830
counseling and she's just like. 
How do we get so taken in by 

1280
00:57:08,830 --> 00:57:11,230
these people? 
There's a there's an instinct to

1281
00:57:11,230 --> 00:57:13,870
make it okay for everything and 
then it's like you just 

1282
00:57:13,870 --> 00:57:15,750
literally went backwards on what
you were trying to accomplish. 

1283
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:17,630
It feels like you know people 
have to have it. 

1284
00:57:17,670 --> 00:57:20,350
I I really recommend people have
a nuanced take on this because 

1285
00:57:20,390 --> 00:57:23,270
and it is hard, right, because 
these people have infiltrated 

1286
00:57:23,270 --> 00:57:25,790
every single system in our 
country and and Kyle, we've 

1287
00:57:25,790 --> 00:57:28,230
allowed it to happen. 
Like it's people not speaking up

1288
00:57:28,230 --> 00:57:30,550
not pushing back that allowed 
this to happen in the 1st place.

1289
00:57:30,550 --> 00:57:33,550
But you don't want to be 
punishing like normal gay and 

1290
00:57:33,550 --> 00:57:36,750
trans people for the 
transgressions of queer Marxist,

1291
00:57:36,910 --> 00:57:38,790
and it's important that people 
understand the difference 

1292
00:57:38,790 --> 00:57:41,790
between those things so well. 
Everything that's going crazy 

1293
00:57:41,790 --> 00:57:44,190
with gender and stuff in our 
culture can be traced back to 

1294
00:57:44,190 --> 00:57:46,870
queer Marxist. 
Most gay and trans people don't 

1295
00:57:46,870 --> 00:57:48,030
want to interact with that at 
all. 

1296
00:57:48,030 --> 00:57:50,510
They don't identify with that. 
And I think that there's a 

1297
00:57:50,510 --> 00:57:54,430
missed opportunity when people 
are demonizing everyone because 

1298
00:57:54,510 --> 00:57:56,590
of a few people are doing really
bad things. 

1299
00:57:56,590 --> 00:57:57,830
So I just want to put that out 
there for. 

1300
00:57:57,830 --> 00:57:59,670
People, that's fair. 
I I think there's a nuanced 

1301
00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:01,470
problem, probably all of it. 
We could come back and have a 

1302
00:58:01,470 --> 00:58:03,430
full thing about trans. 
I'd be curious on your take, 

1303
00:58:03,430 --> 00:58:05,750
which is going to be obviously 
very different than mine, but, 

1304
00:58:06,070 --> 00:58:07,430
you know, it doesn't matter. 
I don't mind. 

1305
00:58:07,590 --> 00:58:09,870
Having people that disagree with
me, that's that's the brilliance

1306
00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:11,710
of America. 
We do have this clip of this 

1307
00:58:11,710 --> 00:58:13,470
wild, Professor Ryan said he's 
ready for it. 

1308
00:58:13,630 --> 00:58:18,190
So we'll run clip number six. 
This one is is real strange and 

1309
00:58:18,190 --> 00:58:20,110
I'll let you you give commentary
when you're ready to. 

1310
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:22,070
Just tell me when. 
You When it comes to something 

1311
00:58:22,070 --> 00:58:28,670
like hormones, I really don't 
see why DIY is actually in any 

1312
00:58:28,670 --> 00:58:33,910
way more dangerous than going to
a doctor, because doctors remain

1313
00:58:34,350 --> 00:58:38,890
very, very very ignorant. 
About hormones, like the first 

1314
00:58:38,890 --> 00:58:42,530
doctor I saw to to start HRT, 
never forget this. 

1315
00:58:42,770 --> 00:58:45,290
It was not the worst thing she 
was going to go on to do to me. 

1316
00:58:45,290 --> 00:58:48,210
But she literally pulled out a 
piece of paper unfolded and she 

1317
00:58:48,210 --> 00:58:50,690
was like, I call this my CHEAT 
SHEET. 

1318
00:58:50,930 --> 00:58:52,770
It tells me what hormones to 
give you. 

1319
00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:55,730
And I was like, so you're using 
and she's like another doctor 

1320
00:58:55,730 --> 00:58:57,250
gave it to me. 
So I was like, so you're not 

1321
00:58:57,250 --> 00:58:59,210
even really giving me 
healthcare? 

1322
00:58:59,210 --> 00:59:01,730
A piece of paper you got from 
someone else is giving me 

1323
00:59:01,730 --> 00:59:03,330
healthcare and did she do a bad 
job? 

1324
00:59:03,330 --> 00:59:06,380
Yes, right. 
You know, for for hormones, 

1325
00:59:06,380 --> 00:59:07,780
right. 
You want to have like good 

1326
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:11,740
quality hormones but like is are
they, you know, but if you can 

1327
00:59:11,740 --> 00:59:15,020
find out the quality where they 
come from, like that one lady in

1328
00:59:15,020 --> 00:59:17,460
Brazil who prison it was like, 
you know, supplies like 

1329
00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:20,020
everyone's hormones in the 
world, like great, right. 

1330
00:59:20,860 --> 00:59:22,940
So I think risk and danger are 
relative. 

1331
00:59:23,220 --> 00:59:25,820
That being said, they're not 
insignificant, right. 

1332
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:28,580
And just because trans people 
are doing DIY. 

1333
00:59:28,990 --> 00:59:33,630
Or abortion is DIY does not mean
it's better or inherently, you 

1334
00:59:33,630 --> 00:59:36,310
know, more progressive and it 
can still be dangerous and 

1335
00:59:36,310 --> 00:59:39,430
unsafe, right? 
So I think to me the question is

1336
00:59:39,430 --> 00:59:44,750
about how DIY sort of community 
network has accountability built

1337
00:59:44,750 --> 00:59:47,390
in, right? 
And what something like consent 

1338
00:59:47,390 --> 00:59:50,430
looks like in that context could
be really different, right? 

1339
00:59:50,430 --> 00:59:53,270
And you know, I think abortion 
is a really important example. 

1340
00:59:53,270 --> 00:59:55,870
Self managed abortions have a 
lot of different technical 

1341
00:59:55,870 --> 00:59:58,830
possibilities today, right? 
A lot more than needs to. 

1342
00:59:59,030 --> 01:00:01,710
So that's really great news. 
When they say DIY she's talking 

1343
01:00:01,710 --> 01:00:05,670
about or I guess that's a that's
a male that is done transition 

1344
01:00:05,670 --> 01:00:08,550
over to a female thing looks 
like Weird Al Yankovic to me 

1345
01:00:08,550 --> 01:00:10,710
with the mascot. 
So that's that's hard to to to 

1346
01:00:10,710 --> 01:00:14,340
digest and and we're talking 
about do it yourself hormones 

1347
01:00:14,340 --> 01:00:16,700
and abortions. 
Oh yeah, so so that was the that

1348
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:19,140
was that person did speak at the
socialism conference in that 

1349
01:00:19,140 --> 01:00:21,300
politics, the childhood session.
But then the clip we just 

1350
01:00:21,300 --> 01:00:24,780
watched was from a keynote they 
gave at Lewis and Clark College 

1351
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:27,820
where they were literally 
encouraging college students to 

1352
01:00:27,820 --> 01:00:30,700
do do it yourself hormones and 
in regards to do it yourself 

1353
01:00:30,700 --> 01:00:32,780
abortion. 
I actually went to another 

1354
01:00:32,780 --> 01:00:34,300
socialist conference back in 
April. 

1355
01:00:34,300 --> 01:00:36,140
People can find this on my sub 
stack as well. 

1356
01:00:36,140 --> 01:00:39,700
This is my first in person. 
John did the socialism and it 

1357
01:00:39,700 --> 01:00:41,540
was a socialist reproductive 
justice conference. 

1358
01:00:41,620 --> 01:00:45,220
Prince at Hampshire College and 
basically they had a whole tour 

1359
01:00:45,220 --> 01:00:48,500
about how to do a do it yourself
bathroom abortion that included 

1360
01:00:48,700 --> 01:00:52,820
a bathroom abortion, doula and 
and a shrine where you worship 

1361
01:00:52,820 --> 01:00:55,940
yourself after you have your at 
home bathroom abortion. 

1362
01:00:56,140 --> 01:00:59,220
And so yeah, they're they're 
pushing crazy stuff out there 

1363
01:00:59,220 --> 01:01:02,300
and they're in there and it is, 
you know, like I'm actually 

1364
01:01:02,300 --> 01:01:05,740
pro-choice like with limits, but
like going on a self managed 

1365
01:01:05,740 --> 01:01:08,740
abortion tour probably made me 
more pro-life than I've ever 

1366
01:01:08,740 --> 01:01:10,540
been in my life. 
I'm like you're literally 

1367
01:01:10,540 --> 01:01:12,980
worshipping yourself. 
On a shrine of abortion, you 

1368
01:01:12,980 --> 01:01:15,540
people are a death cult. 
That is a death cult. 

1369
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:18,060
Look, I was, so I was out in 
front of the Supreme Court when 

1370
01:01:18,460 --> 01:01:20,580
before the Dobbs decision came 
out, my my attorney and I rolled

1371
01:01:20,580 --> 01:01:21,740
out there. 
He's just a friend of mine that 

1372
01:01:21,740 --> 01:01:24,300
was working as an attorney. 
And and so we're just walking. 

1373
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:27,560
We are watching, you know, and 
this lady at one point in time 

1374
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:31,200
and there's 15 people that are 
screaming at the at the pro-life

1375
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:33,240
folks, the Christians that are 
out praying and do whatever 

1376
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,120
they're doing And and these like
these women were unhinged. 

1377
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:38,680
They were not well mentally. 
You could just look at him and 

1378
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:40,000
go there's something very wrong 
with you. 

1379
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,800
And one of them decided to go 
down the the dark rabbit hole 

1380
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,680
and she screams the words HAIL 
Satan at the top of her lungs. 

1381
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:47,720
And it got deathly quiet across 
the street. 

1382
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,760
Now, if you ever been in a 
Washington, DC protest, that's 

1383
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:51,600
not normal. 
She screams this thing out. 

1384
01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,560
Everyone stops. 
Everyone kind of goes like, 

1385
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:55,920
yeah, we're not with her. 
Nobody wants to be part of the 

1386
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,560
group that screams Hail Satan. 
Regardless of what you think, 

1387
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,400
that there is a God or religion 
or anything else like that, 

1388
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,560
everyone kind of knows that's 
where it gets real weird. 

1389
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:04,440
That's when you've probably lost
the edge. 

1390
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,000
And she didn't believe it 
either. 

1391
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:08,880
That wasn't something she was 
trying to, you know, espouse as 

1392
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,840
a as a thing. 
She was doing it to own people 

1393
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:12,080
and she knew she crossed the 
line. 

1394
01:02:12,080 --> 01:02:14,520
That is that weird death cult 
where it's just like, what in 

1395
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:15,970
them? 
What are you doing, lady? 

1396
01:02:15,970 --> 01:02:18,490
Like that's not even something 
you believe you have lost it. 

1397
01:02:18,490 --> 01:02:20,570
And in order to try to win your 
political position, you're 

1398
01:02:20,570 --> 01:02:23,450
saying crazy stuff and everybody
around you felt it too. 

1399
01:02:23,450 --> 01:02:25,810
It was like, I don't think we 
want to be part of that game. 

1400
01:02:26,010 --> 01:02:28,250
Well, well, let me tell you this
though, Kyle and and and I want 

1401
01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:31,210
to use this to illustrate just 
how far ahead the socialist left

1402
01:02:31,210 --> 01:02:34,930
is of like normies. 
The day that the draft decision 

1403
01:02:34,930 --> 01:02:37,810
of Roe V Wade got released was 
actually the day after. 

1404
01:02:37,810 --> 01:02:40,250
So the the the official Supreme 
Court decision hasn't even 

1405
01:02:40,250 --> 01:02:41,770
gotten released yet. 
We're talking about the Dobbs 

1406
01:02:41,770 --> 01:02:43,210
decision, not Roe V. 
Wade Yeah. 

1407
01:02:43,210 --> 01:02:45,170
Well, you what? 
You OK? 

1408
01:02:45,290 --> 01:02:47,610
Whatever. 
But like the day after that 

1409
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:51,290
draft decision got released, I 
watched a live presentation at 

1410
01:02:51,290 --> 01:02:54,370
the University of California, 
Berkeley, on my channel, where 

1411
01:02:54,370 --> 01:02:57,850
they were already talking about 
how are we going to smuggle 

1412
01:02:57,850 --> 01:03:01,130
abortion pills into states where
abortions going to be banned. 

1413
01:03:01,290 --> 01:03:05,210
They already had plans to do it.
They knew that this was going to

1414
01:03:05,210 --> 01:03:07,330
get overturned. 
They knew what was going to 

1415
01:03:07,330 --> 01:03:08,930
happen. 
And they had already been 

1416
01:03:08,930 --> 01:03:11,570
working with all sorts of 
networks and clinics and stuff 

1417
01:03:11,570 --> 01:03:14,570
around the country to make sure 
that that in states where 

1418
01:03:14,570 --> 01:03:16,730
abortion was going to. 
To be banned, people would still

1419
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:18,290
have access to these abortion 
pills. 

1420
01:03:18,290 --> 01:03:22,090
So I hate to break anyone's 
heart here, but abortions are 

1421
01:03:22,090 --> 01:03:23,970
still happening in states where 
they're banned all over the 

1422
01:03:23,970 --> 01:03:27,370
place because of these people. 
Yeah, I know that makes sense. 

1423
01:03:27,370 --> 01:03:30,370
If they're smuggling teaching 
techniques that are gonna be 

1424
01:03:30,370 --> 01:03:33,010
banned in Florida, then they're 
obviously pushing all their 

1425
01:03:33,010 --> 01:03:35,770
ideology and I guess they're 
probably looking for someone to 

1426
01:03:35,770 --> 01:03:38,170
make an example of one of the 
people doing this so they can 

1427
01:03:38,170 --> 01:03:40,450
have a martyr for the cause. 
Is that is that a virtue? 

1428
01:03:40,690 --> 01:03:43,370
Oh yeah, absolutely. 
But again, abortion is also 

1429
01:03:43,930 --> 01:03:47,330
another attack on the nuclear 
biological family because they 

1430
01:03:47,330 --> 01:03:49,610
believe that capital. 
Here's the quick version. 

1431
01:03:49,850 --> 01:03:52,970
Capitalism created the gender 
binary by creating oppressive 

1432
01:03:52,970 --> 01:03:55,210
gender roles. 
The nuclear family upholds the 

1433
01:03:55,210 --> 01:03:57,610
gender binary and also 
reinforces capitalism. 

1434
01:03:57,610 --> 01:04:01,370
So if we can do abortion bans, 
this will liberate women from 

1435
01:04:01,370 --> 01:04:03,970
the oppressive gender roles that
the gender binary is created. 

1436
01:04:04,210 --> 01:04:06,890
Thus we undermine capitalism and
the nuclear family all in one 

1437
01:04:06,890 --> 01:04:08,410
breath. 
So that's that's part of the 

1438
01:04:08,410 --> 01:04:12,450
bigger connection. 
It's so wild and I feel like 

1439
01:04:12,450 --> 01:04:15,570
everybody is going to have their
Wednesday kicked off in the high

1440
01:04:15,570 --> 01:04:17,890
gear based on this conversation.
I hope we can come back and do 

1441
01:04:17,890 --> 01:04:20,130
this thing again. 
I'd like to to do more just 

1442
01:04:20,130 --> 01:04:23,460
because you have a high 
tolerance and probably a very 

1443
01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:26,140
strong stomach for going out 
there and listening to some of 

1444
01:04:26,140 --> 01:04:28,420
this wild stuff. 
I love that you have Comrade 

1445
01:04:28,860 --> 01:04:31,020
Carlin on the side of your of 
your piece when you're doing 

1446
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:32,540
your socialism, Saturdays and 
whatnot. 

1447
01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:35,060
This is great stuff and it's so 
weird. 

1448
01:04:35,060 --> 01:04:37,100
It's so foreign to most people. 
But if you don't know what we're

1449
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:40,040
up against, how in the world are
you going to even be able to to 

1450
01:04:40,040 --> 01:04:42,240
identify it as a problem when it
comes near you, I guess? 

1451
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,200
Yeah, I would be happy to come 
back anytime And and I really do

1452
01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:47,920
think on that note like I do 
stream socialism on my channel 

1453
01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:51,160
every single Saturday at 6:00 PM
We watch the full form socialism

1454
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:53,840
456 hours. 
Sometimes we go a little crazy 

1455
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:55,120
but we do try to have fun with 
it. 

1456
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,600
We play bingo, we drink, we make
fun of them and all that good 

1457
01:04:57,600 --> 01:04:59,280
stuff. 
But to be serious for a second, 

1458
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,880
I I meant it when I said the 
most important thing that anyone

1459
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:05,960
can learn how to do is to speak 
socialist, to learn how to speak

1460
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:07,760
their coded language. 
Because one. 

1461
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,000
Once you learn how to speak 
socialist, it will start showing

1462
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,640
up everywhere around you. 
I will teach you how to speak 

1463
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,280
socialist. 
I will break it down for you. 

1464
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:17,360
All you got to do is show up, 
have an open mind, work through 

1465
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,240
some pain because it is painful.
Trust me, I've watched thousands

1466
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:22,000
of hours of socialism. 
I'm going a little crazy, all 

1467
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,800
right, but like, but like, show 
up and do it and I'll teach you 

1468
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,600
it and it will show you a world 
that you never knew existed. 

1469
01:05:28,340 --> 01:05:30,420
I am quite confident of that. 
OK, let people know where they 

1470
01:05:30,420 --> 01:05:31,500
can follow you. 
I know you've got a good 

1471
01:05:31,500 --> 01:05:34,140
following on YouTube, you've got
some on Twitter as well where I 

1472
01:05:34,140 --> 01:05:35,940
spend a lot of time. 
So tell people all that the 

1473
01:05:35,940 --> 01:05:38,220
handles and then your sub stack 
is actually in the show notes 

1474
01:05:38,220 --> 01:05:39,860
where people can find a lot of 
that content as well. 

1475
01:05:40,260 --> 01:05:41,780
Awesome. 
So my YouTube channel is just my

1476
01:05:41,780 --> 01:05:43,140
name. 
It's Carlin Beresenko. 

1477
01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:45,620
You can find me on Twitter at 
Doctor Carlin B. 

1478
01:05:45,780 --> 01:05:48,700
And my all my best content is 
published on my substack, which 

1479
01:05:48,700 --> 01:05:53,140
is Carlin Karl yn.substack.com. 
And I've got a scoop coming up 

1480
01:05:53,140 --> 01:05:55,060
later today. 
I've got a I've got a socialist 

1481
01:05:55,060 --> 01:05:58,740
professor on tape advocating for
revolution, essentially 

1482
01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:01,340
revolution against capitalism. 
That's going to be posted on the

1483
01:06:01,340 --> 01:06:03,500
substack probably within the 
next hour or so. 

1484
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:06,000
So, you know, breaking news, I 
dig it. 

1485
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,160
That's fantastic stuff. 
And I like that you're a pro. 

1486
01:06:08,160 --> 01:06:10,200
You're just like, here's here's 
on my content, here's on how you

1487
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:11,080
find it. 
I know where it is. 

1488
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,240
It's in my head. 
It's organized. 

1489
01:06:12,400 --> 01:06:14,440
It comes out really good. 
Carl, thanks for jumping on this

1490
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,040
morning with us. 
I think that was illuminating 

1491
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,640
for a lot of people. 
There's a couple people that 

1492
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,000
puked in their mouth in our live
chat. 

1493
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,520
So that happens. 
That's the nature of the beast. 

1494
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,160
And and they are definitely 
going to be revved up for a 

1495
01:06:23,160 --> 01:06:26,200
midweek start to their 
Wednesday. 

1496
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:28,200
Thanks so much for joining on us
with that one. 

1497
01:06:28,530 --> 01:06:30,210
Hey, thanks for having me and 
looking forward to doing it 

1498
01:06:30,210 --> 01:06:31,850
again sometime. 
Yeah, we definitely will. 

1499
01:06:31,850 --> 01:06:33,130
All right. 
I want to also think that thanks

1500
01:06:33,130 --> 01:06:35,850
to Patriot coolers talking about
the opposite, here's capitalism 

1501
01:06:35,850 --> 01:06:38,650
at work. 
There it is. patriotcoolers.com.

1502
01:06:38,810 --> 01:06:39,850
Use promo code. 
Kyle. 

1503
01:06:39,850 --> 01:06:42,210
Kyle gets you 10% off. 
We're showing the soft pack 

1504
01:06:42,210 --> 01:06:44,570
coolers today. 
I've got the 34 can one. 

1505
01:06:44,570 --> 01:06:47,010
I've never put 34 can. 
No, no, I don't have the 24. 

1506
01:06:47,010 --> 01:06:50,760
I think the 24 fits 17 bottles 
if you want to put bottles of 

1507
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,200
beer in there. 
And it also fits several kids 

1508
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,640
lunches, which is fantastic if 
you have multiple kids like I 

1509
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,920
do. 
Keeps things cold. 

1510
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,480
It also just keeps things from 
melting so you don't have melty 

1511
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:00,560
food. 
Promo code. 

1512
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,360
Kyle, Kyle. 
Check those things out on 

1513
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,560
patriotcoolers.com. 
They're an OG sponsor here of 

1514
01:07:05,560 --> 01:07:07,680
the Kyle Seraphin Show. 
We really do appreciate them and

1515
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:10,000
we might as well say, since I 
know he's in the chat, GOB 

1516
01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:12,320
actual, there he is. 
This is our merch program, so 

1517
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:14,440
you can go when you can buy 
something from Garrett O'boyle, 

1518
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:18,240
a good friend of ours at the 
Dash suspendables.com. 

1519
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,200
Couple of cool looking shirts, 
supposedly mine were sipped out 

1520
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:24,840
on Monday. 
I expect to see some shirts in 

1521
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,840
the mail either today or 
tomorrow from Garrett. 

1522
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,840
So you guys might see a 
suspendable shirt sported on the

1523
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,680
Kyle Seraphin Show. 
Not too soon, not too far in the

1524
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:33,240
future. 
Rather. 

1525
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,160
That is the Dash 
suspendables.com and get that 

1526
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:39,080
thing going. 
All right, ladies and gentlemen,

1527
01:07:39,080 --> 01:07:41,760
we've had a little bit of a run 
over the hour, but I love to do 

1528
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:43,320
that. 
And Carlin was a fantastic 

1529
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,300
commentator on all these things.
It's nice when someone speaks as

1530
01:07:46,300 --> 01:07:49,020
quickly as I do and digest. 
She's obviously got a strong 

1531
01:07:49,020 --> 01:07:51,540
mastery of that information. 
So check out the sub stack below

1532
01:07:51,540 --> 01:07:54,420
and the links, and you can check
out that Socialism Saturday. 

1533
01:07:54,420 --> 01:07:56,340
If you get a couple of shots in 
you, maybe you want to go and 

1534
01:07:56,580 --> 01:07:58,620
learn more about how to speak 
Socialism. 

1535
01:07:58,660 --> 01:08:01,260
Sounds sounds terrible and 
nauseating, but also 

1536
01:08:01,260 --> 01:08:03,100
informative. 
You've been listening to the 

1537
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:05,940
Kyle Sarafin show stream live 
from Liberty Hill, TX. 

1538
01:08:05,980 --> 01:08:08,060
This is the opposite of 
socialism out here at Liberty 

1539
01:08:08,060 --> 01:08:09,300
Hill. 
A good hill to die on if you 

1540
01:08:09,300 --> 01:08:12,060
have to. 
In Texas, America, we stream 

1541
01:08:12,060 --> 01:08:15,580
live at 9:30 AM Eastern Time. 
That's 8:30 here in Texas, 

1542
01:08:15,580 --> 01:08:17,180
America. 
And folks, if you join us in the

1543
01:08:17,180 --> 01:08:21,779
live chat at rumble.com/kyle 
Sarafin, you will be able to 

1544
01:08:21,779 --> 01:08:23,220
comment on all the things out 
there. 

1545
01:08:23,540 --> 01:08:25,700
We really appreciate all of the 
five star reviews that we have 

1546
01:08:25,700 --> 01:08:28,330
on Apple. 
We're almost at 700 just 

1547
01:08:28,330 --> 01:08:31,689
climbing right up to it And here
is 1 from Captain Crusher put 

1548
01:08:31,689 --> 01:08:34,850
out on Friday. 
It says the show 5 stars found 

1549
01:08:34,850 --> 01:08:37,210
you through Tracy and Frank. 
We love Tracy Beans and we love 

1550
01:08:37,210 --> 01:08:38,890
Frank. 
We love the show. 

1551
01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:41,370
Keep up the good work. 
And F Peter struck. 

1552
01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:46,490
F Peter Struck indeed. 
My favorite FBI weasel folks, if

1553
01:08:46,490 --> 01:08:49,770
you want to advocate for it on 
his Twitter feed, he blocked me.

1554
01:08:49,810 --> 01:08:54,010
But I did say that I would be 
happy to punch Peter Struck in a

1555
01:08:54,010 --> 01:08:57,370
boxing match for charity. 
We could do a whistleblower 

1556
01:08:57,370 --> 01:09:01,010
versus weasel, Sarafen versus 
struck extravaganza. 

1557
01:09:01,010 --> 01:09:02,850
I don't know who the undercard 
is going to be, but it could be 

1558
01:09:02,850 --> 01:09:05,729
something really fun. 
And if Peter Struck wants to 

1559
01:09:05,729 --> 01:09:08,130
take a couple of hits in the 
face from me, we can give the 

1560
01:09:08,130 --> 01:09:10,609
money that we raise to a 
charity. 

1561
01:09:11,020 --> 01:09:13,140
And we would give it either to a
whistleblower charity of the 

1562
01:09:13,140 --> 01:09:15,100
Kyle Seraphin choice. 
And if Peter Struck knocks me 

1563
01:09:15,100 --> 01:09:17,819
out, then he can give it to like
cuckold and husbands or 

1564
01:09:17,819 --> 01:09:20,060
something, whatever he's into. 
I think that could be a lot of 

1565
01:09:20,060 --> 01:09:21,979
fun. 
Whistleblower versus weasel. 

1566
01:09:21,979 --> 01:09:24,340
Make a trend if you can. 
We really appreciate all of you 

1567
01:09:24,340 --> 01:09:25,859
joining us. 
We thank Ryan Matta for his 

1568
01:09:25,859 --> 01:09:28,340
production skills. 
You can follow him at Ryan Matta

1569
01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:32,740
Media on Twitter, MATTA, and 
find him on LFATV at 2:00 PM. 

1570
01:09:32,740 --> 01:09:34,300
There he is. 
Thanks so much for your good 

1571
01:09:34,300 --> 01:09:36,460
work today, Ryan. 
Folks, we will see you again 

1572
01:09:36,460 --> 01:09:38,300
tomorrow with another Kyle 
Seraphin show. 

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Have a great day. 
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Seraph and shows streamed live 
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