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Kyle Serafin, I I can't thank 
you enough for speaking out. 

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I knew you guys were out there 
and I knew it was just a matter 

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of time. 
But you got a lot of guts 

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putting your face and your name 
to this. 

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You're doing a service on behalf
of the American people. 

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And from the bottom of my 
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sometimes, thank you very much, 
take a look. 

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Behind the curtain with the real
whistleblower in American 

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Patriot, prepare to embrace the 
uncomfortable truth, because 

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this programme has no time for 
comforting lies. 

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Here is civil liberties 
enthusiast, Second Amendment 

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defender, and recovering FBI 
agent Kyle Serafin. 

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See, we got no mic from your 
friend, so I get it now. 

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I'm sorry, Sir. 
That is the amateur that is 

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clearly showing that I'm the 
Garfunkel of the assignment, 

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Garfunkel relationship that Kyle
Serafin and Steve friend have. 

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Sorry. 
Good morning, Sarah Vance. 

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Welcome to the show for a 
friendly Friday, October 27th. 

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Obviously Kyle is a big timing 
us once again on this day but 

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that's OK we have a friendly 
Friday in store for you. 

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I'm really excited to be here. 
I've got a full show in store 

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for you and and Kyle's out in 
Las Vegas at the premiere for 

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police state. 
He's going to be hosting a a 

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digital or virtual event there 
with the with Dinesh Desouza's 

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daughter and and he's left the 
the the captain seat to me to 

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handle on a friendly Friday. 
So I'm excited to be here for 

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you. 
I'm not going to be alone. 

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I've got a couple guests lined 
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I want to send you off into your
weekend with lots of information

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with with some laughs and then 
some things to think about. 

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But before we get to any of that
I want to to to pay some bills 

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here and and then we can get 
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So the first thing I want to do 
is acknowledge the the OG 

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sponsor of the Caesarian show 
and that is the Patriot cooler. 

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Normally I have Ryan pull up the
the video of him breaking 

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international law and and going 
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his Patriot cooler. 
But I think it's more 

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appropriate today to talk about 
how we we have Halloween coming 

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up next week, but then we're 
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Christmas season. 
So I think that everybody should

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look at the OG sponsor promo 
code, Kyle for Patriot coolers 

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and look at these are these 
these these cups. 

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Everybody's got these coolers, 
everybody needs them. 

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We all got them in our shelves. 
The lids are all mismatched, 1 

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cup to another. 
I know my kids can't keep them 

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straight, but they make a really
great product. 

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They've supported the Kyle 
Serafin Show from the beginning 

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and I would encourage you all 
just to to look with their 

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products are and then and then 
continue to benefit us. 

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They benefit the Kyle Surfin 
Show, they benefit vets for this

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country and and it's an American
company. 

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So do yourself a favour when you
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Christmas shopping this year. 
Look over at Patriot Coolers. 

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I am excited today to to bring 
you a whole bunch of stuff. 

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Kyle, like I said he's big time 
to us. 

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A lot of that is thanks to the 
Sarafan Nation as it's grown by 

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leaps and bounds over this last 
year. 

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And make sure you're liking and 
subscribing to this show. 

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If you're on rumble, make sure 
that Green Thumb is up and and 

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and that will help this show 
continue to grow. 

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It will help Kyle continue to go
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premier for Police State or Tim 
Poole and ultimately let me sit 

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in this chair and screw up the 
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So really you're helping me 
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thing. 
But I wanna get to to our first 

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guest today and he's he's a 
multi visitor to the Kyle 

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Serafin show. 
That's the great Steve Baker now

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of the Blaze news. 
Steve thank you so much. 

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I know I reached out to you 
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Look when I got got the now I 
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was going to come in and host. 
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couple of things that you 
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preparing to speak to those. 
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that guy and he's got a smooth, 
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him come on because the fans 
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A primary source. 
So thank you for joining this. 

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Morning. 
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Well that voice always happens 
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who used to be Broadway theatre 
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tall gorgeous black man who he's
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James Earl Jones kind of voice. 
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time and he said he goes, Oh 
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was doing some studio work with 
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like, you know doing voice over 
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in New York. 
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do you, you know, how do you 
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And he said I go out and he said
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voice over, he said I I smoke a 
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That's a pro right there, man, 
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All right. 
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You know, last time you were 
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couple weeks ago, I know it was 
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that Kyle had in history of the 
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You We talked in depth for a 
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Keepers trial and you really had
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I would encourage anybody to go 
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that. 
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to bring folks up to speed so we
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It's video one. 
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us. 
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folks, but obviously I, like I 
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I'm going to turn it over to to 
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Great Glenn Beck and those over 
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speed here in a couple of 
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Go ahead and roll that for me, 
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Did Pelosi security chief 
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Keepers trial? 
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Rhodes has been sentenced to 18 
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Youth Keepers are extremists who
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conspiracy theories and sought 
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The one thing that the 
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Keepers in a positive light. 
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the US Capitol Police Special 
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the violence that the rioters 
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David Lazarus when he heard the 
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At 240-3244, 1443. 
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buildings. 
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The Capitol Police officer 
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appears to have given false 
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video clip of four Oath Keepers 
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four interactions in this space,
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The people that had been 
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They would be released. 
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a high ranking Capitol Police 
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designation who was the head of 
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another Capitol Police officer 
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We are waiting on this, the 
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permission to show it right here
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When we release A Day in the 
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6th, it will contradict every 
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about that. 
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Media for doing that video for 
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Rumble, maybe getting the the 
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Make sure you give us a 5 star 
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But there is some some text 
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what I want to get from you 
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in possession of the video. 
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the speakership, the the deal 
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McCarthy was now kind of put 
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a new speaker, you know what, 
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Start by putting one big piece 
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forever, at least for those who 
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Everyone thinks that when they 
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worth of Capital CCTV footage 
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magically that Congress or the 
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or McCarthy just hands over our 
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That's not what happens. 

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that they were just given all 
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they release it all? 
Why won't Tucker release it all?

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I I get. 
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on Twitter or X, whatever it's 
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the video. 
I don't have all the video. 

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Blaze doesn't have all the 
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What we're given is access. 
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three consoles and then 
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got access, why don't you, why 
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don't you put in a flash drive? 
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tightly monitored. 
We we can't use our recording 

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devices. 
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we have to set them across the 
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timestamps that we want, then we
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It's one, it's one of the House 
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And then after that's over with 
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this presentation you showed you
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presentation together with the, 
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harvested. 
Then we have to put give that. 

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We have to submit that back to 
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security concerns. 
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building they don't want seeing.
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rolled his things out back last 
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some walls out. 
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was walking down the hallway and
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out. 
I don't know what they were 

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blurring out, but that's the 
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get permission to do and and and
they have to run through those 

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security concerns. 
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that groundwork. 
It's it's a it's it's been a 

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pain in my ass for for months 
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asked me what they should be 
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deal with this question So what 
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is you're right on the on 
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as you know the the euphemistic 
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David Lazarus we got a call from
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Staffer in charge, that 
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the videos. 
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And I said, well, what do you 
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know, our stories coming out 
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at 7:00 and then Glenn is going 
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the air at 9:00 in the morning 
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What do you mean we can't 
release it? 

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He said, yeah. 
He said, you know, the Mccarthys

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seat has been vacated, he's out.
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all of our permissions to. 
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on what on how and why we might 
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But they, I mean they put their 
foot down. 

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Now this is the interesting 
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handed us the video. 
It's ours. 

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We can do with it whatever we 
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It's like a it's like a document
that gets leaked. 

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You know you you leak a court 
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sphere. 
Well then, oops. 

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You know, as long as you weren't
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it back to you, you're not in 
trouble. 

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you, you can do that. 
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those videos. 
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couldn't release, but we did 
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to speak, with Congress about 
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And obviously we don't want to 
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to lose access. 
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we are still waiting today even 
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Mike Johnson. 
You know I wanted to talk to you

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not bad. 
I mean you're you're a Louisiana

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guy I believe you're in 
Freeport. 

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I he's from that that parish or 
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up in Louisiana, little bit 
funky down there. 

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And I saw that you you shared a 
picture of of him. 

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I had a small interaction with 
Congressman Johnson. 

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He's a member of the 
weaponization committee. 

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He was definitely one of the 
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Garrett and I testified a few 
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he's going to be as a speaker. 
I think that you know that time 

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will reveal that. 
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concerns as you've been sort of 
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weeks on this, I'm you might be 
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optimistic, pessimistic. 
Do you think you're going to get

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that similar gentlemen's 
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I'm very optimistic about it for
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Number one, I don't, I don't 
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with the new speaker, Mike 
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We're from the same hometown, 
Shreveport, LA. 

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Actually sitting in Shreveport 
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Dallas. 
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to meet with Mike Johnson back 
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And it wasn't really Mike that I
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He was doing a fundraiser here 
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Jordan was his keynote speaker 
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And I was planning an ambush on 
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guy I was trying to get at. 
And the reason why and you'll. 

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Appreciate this since you've 
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committee is that is that Jordan
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publicly but very, very vocally 
behind closed doors that he was 

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not going to deal with January 
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weaponization. 
And so I had some stories that I

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knew I could not tell without 
his assistance or without his 

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investigators assistant and that
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be dealt with by weaponization, 
so through a mutual friend. 

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Of Mike Johnsons, who also very 
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January 6th up is one of Stewart
Rhodes attorneys, also in 

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Louisiana, attorney by the name 
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Tarpley lives a couple hours 
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Alexandria. 
And Ed and I had become very, 

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very familiar with each other, 
very well acquainted over the 

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course of the Oath Keepers trial
last year. 

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And as a result of that. 
When he knew that I was trying 

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to get my claws into Jordan that
he he said he called me up and 

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he said hey. 
He said Jordan's doing a he's 

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speaking at a fundraiser for 
Mike Johnson right there in 

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Shreveport downtown. 
Shreveport told me he gave me 

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the date, the time place I you 
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I said I'll be there. 
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event, and as a result of that, 
he prepped them. 

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And so it wasn't a real ambush, 
he he was Tarpley's. 

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Involved in Louisiana politics 
has been, and he and Mike 

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Johnson have been dear friends 
for 25 years. 

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So he knew what to do to, you 
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for me. 
And as a result of that, I I got

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a special amount of time. 
I was expecting, you know, 60 

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seconds with each of the 
congressmen at that time. 

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I ended up getting 10 minutes 
apiece with each of them. 

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I was able to make my pitch into
Jordan. 

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And Jordan wrote my name and 
number down, stuck it in his 

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front pocket. 
And I've been working with his 

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investigators at weaponization 
ever since. 

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Almost every day. 
And I I told and I told both of 

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them. 
I told them both. 

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I said. 
I have two stories to tell that 

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I cannot tell without your help 
and without your protection. 

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Alright. 
Well, I mean at least least 

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there's a little bit of 
optimism. 

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I, you know, I think it's and 
you've expressed to me, it's 

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just absolutely heartbreaking. 
I know you've done a tonne of 

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work, but I think you and I 
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gladly hand that over and get no
credit, no claim, no 

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compensation if it meant getting
some some people who were denied

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their due process rights out of 
of their current circumstances 

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where they were in a gulag. 
So I'm I'm happy to hear that 

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you're happy and optimistic 
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near future the the new speaker 
will, will will give you access 

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to that that video. 
I know it's it's in the in the 

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vault of the Blaze which looks 
eerily like the the Ark of the 

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Covenant warehouse that is in 
the Raiders Lost Ark. 

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Certainly Glen likes to keep 
lots of artefacts back there. 

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So I want to pivot to the other 
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I was going to discuss and again
I knew the great baritone voice 

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and I wanted to to give you 
credit and give the opportunity 

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primary source it. 
You talked a few weeks ago about

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you had some interactions with 
Harry Dunn, the the gentle giant

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who is going to be releasing 
this book and then it came out 

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earlier this week. 
You had advanced access to it 

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did sort of a review of it and 
then earlier this week one of 

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the first stories that the Blaze
news the the new news outlet 

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Norm the Blazes is offering 
publish your your story about 

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some inconsistencies in Officer 
Dunn's book with what you were 

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able to find in the surveillance
camera footage. 

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Can you kind of walk us through 
your story and and Ryan if you 

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want to pull up the article this
is going to be article 1 and 

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that that way folks know what 
they looking for. 

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They can go to the Blaze and and
get it. 

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It's called January 6th, and the
N word that wasn't so Steve. 

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Can you can you get no spoiler 
alerts? 

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I mean I think it's definitely 
worth, it's a good read, but you

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know can you give us a sort of 
30,000 foot view of what what 

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went on with? 
The story, yeah, it was really 

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honoured that The Blaze launched
their new website with my story 

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here on Harry Dunn. 
And of course this is something 

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I've been working on for a long 
time. 

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So it, you know, it was 
gratifying in that regard. 

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But the the bottom line is, is 
that Harry Dunn became a 

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national figure. 
He became the hero of January 6 

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because he did initially. 
BuzzFeed and anonymous unnamed 

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source interview with one of 
their writers in which he told 

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this story about being subjected
to on numerous occasions 

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throughout the day on January 
6th, a horrible, you know, 

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racial slurs thrown at him and 
other officers. 

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And so as as that whole thing 
developed, he was eventually 

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outed. 
He came out that he was the 

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source for that story and the 
reason why he was unnamed to 

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begin with is because, you know,
he was capital police officer. 

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I'm not really supposed to be 
talking about what they do on 

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the job, you know, to to the 
press. 

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But as a result of somebody 
supplying for him a very high 

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priced attorney by the name of 
Mark Zade out of, you know, DC. 

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And then also because the story 
as he told it, even as an 

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unnamed source, resonated with 
the narrative of the day that 

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all these people that attacked 
the, you know, Congress and 

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attacked the Capitol building, 
the insurrectionists were all, 

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you know, racist white 
supremacist. 

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Every one of them were carrying 
Confederate flags. 

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That sort of thing is that this 
story fit the narrative so well 

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that he was given special 
dispensation from the Capitol 

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Police to begin basically doing 
as many interviews carte blanche

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as he wanted to, while the rest 
of the the forces under gag 

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orders and NDA's and such as 
that media tour for his book. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
And he didn't have the book deal

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yet, but that was that was 
forthcoming pretty quickly and 

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so. 
This story about him being, you 

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know, called the N Word over and
over again became grander and 

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grander and and and more and 
more exaggerated to the point 

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where he then finally lumped 
that in with his interaction 

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with the Oath Keepers that day. 
Inside are just outside of the 

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the Great Rotunda. 
And that that event took place 

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while that encounter was 
happening. 

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And he came up with a story 
about this lady in a pink MAGA 

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shirt who led the crowd in a 
chant of, you know, this giant 

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black man because, you know, 
he's 67300 plus pounds. 

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And she started chanting at him 
that he was an inward Biden 

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voter Boo, Inward Biden voter 
Boo. 

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And that 2040, as many as 50 
people, he said in some 

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accounts, were chanting. 
Look at him. 

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Except that in the most recorded
video event in the history of 

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the world, there's not a single 
episode, a single a single 

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incident here 2 1/2 plus years 
later, of there being not only 

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one single recorded event of in 
all the, you know, the the Metro

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police body cams of any of them 
ever being called a racial 

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epithet. 
There's not a single example of 

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that on anyone cell phone. 
Which the FBI has captured, you 

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know, thousands and thousands, 
unknown, thousands of hours 

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worth of that video. 
And of course then there's the 

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Capital CCTV, which doesn't have
audio recording. 

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But we could watch the event 
that he described in the place 

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where he said that that large 
crowd was chanting and we can 

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see that that never happened. 
You know when a crowd is 

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chanting there, there's physical
body language that takes place 

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in a chant and we have enough 
cameras walking by that area we 

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have. 
Actual body worn cameras from 

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the Metropolitan Police walking 
by that area and then of course 

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we have the CCTV and it just 
never happened. 

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He made it up. 
Wow. 

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Wow. 
I mean, I you you had access to 

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his book. 
You you as a media person, I 

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guess you could write a book 
review on it. 

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I'm interested if you if you 
were at English professor and 

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you're giving it a grade, we 
don't have to give it a letter 

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grade. 
Let's just say, look, there's 

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three tiers, you know, Tier one 
would be like To Kill a 

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Mockingbird like the US Grant 
Memoirs. 

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Tier 2 would be like the jungle 
and the Howards in like well 

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written but completely 
inaccurate bordering on false. 

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And tier 3 would be See Spot 
run. 

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Yeah. 
It's Look, I'll tell you what, 

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Look, I'm gonna. 
I'm gonna insert something 

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between the jungle and see spot 
run. 

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Let's go with The Jungle Book, 
OK? 

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You know it's, it's, it's. 
First of all, Harry Dunn did not

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write this. 
I mean, let's just be perfectly 

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honest, this is how those book 
deals work. 

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More than likely Hatchet Books, 
which is the third largest book 

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publisher in the world, likely 
didn't even pay for his advance.

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Typically when when award book 
deals are given to these 

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celebrity type political voice, 
narrative sponsoring, narrative,

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supporting type authors, there's
an outside foundation like a 

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Soros or somebody like that who 
comes in and. 

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And gives the publisher that 
money through the foundation and

451
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,220
then then then the check is 
written to the author. 

452
00:25:39,290 --> 00:25:40,780
And then they bring in a ghost 
writer. 

453
00:25:40,790 --> 00:25:44,300
And the ghost writer interviews 
them, spends hours with them, 

454
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:46,680
several days with them. 
So they get all the personal 

455
00:25:46,690 --> 00:25:48,680
stories and they get the 
accounting of events. 

456
00:25:48,690 --> 00:25:51,240
And then they go in and and they
write the book for them. 

457
00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:53,920
And and you know, there's some 
back and forth between the 

458
00:25:53,930 --> 00:25:57,730
editors and the the assigned 
author and the the the ghost 

459
00:25:57,740 --> 00:25:59,120
writer. 
But that's how that happens. 

460
00:25:59,330 --> 00:26:02,960
And so it's clear from my own 
interactions with Harry. 

461
00:26:03,030 --> 00:26:04,850
Done. 
And having watched many, many, 

462
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:07,730
many interviews, I've watched 
basically every interview he's 

463
00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:09,990
ever given, listened to every 
podcast he's ever done. 

464
00:26:10,060 --> 00:26:12,670
As I've been getting into the 
head of this man in preparation 

465
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,770
for this series that we're doing
that I I can tell you, he didn't

466
00:26:15,780 --> 00:26:18,170
write that book. 
Fair enough. 

467
00:26:18,220 --> 00:26:21,190
Fair enough. 
I mean, as as a published author

468
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,350
now I I feel like I look, I was 
a cop. 

469
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:26,410
I kind of feel a little bit 
better about myself. 

470
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,690
I put I put the keystrokes in 
myself. 

471
00:26:29,700 --> 00:26:32,760
So. 
Congratulations. 

472
00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:34,350
Because that's. 
Yeah, but you. 

473
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:37,350
But you weren't. 
You weren't awarded A narrative 

474
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:40,050
supporting Deal, you know, 
correct. 

475
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:44,310
And the Congressional Medal. 
So not not only was he awarded a

476
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:50,030
deal for his, you know, service 
to Nancy Pelosi's narrative, her

477
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,610
directive to establish and 
preserve the narrative of 

478
00:26:52,620 --> 00:26:59,260
January 6th that he was. 
Yeah, look, I'm, I'm, I'm not 

479
00:26:59,270 --> 00:27:02,480
going to disparage him 
personally. 

480
00:27:02,490 --> 00:27:04,740
I don't have any desire to do 
that. 

481
00:27:04,750 --> 00:27:06,880
And I've met him, I've spent 
time with him. 

482
00:27:06,890 --> 00:27:10,380
We've talked a lot over the last
couple of months in preparation 

483
00:27:10,390 --> 00:27:13,160
for this. 
I did everything I could to turn

484
00:27:13,170 --> 00:27:17,140
him from the dark side, You 
know, I go into the James Earl 

485
00:27:17,150 --> 00:27:19,880
Jones voice again. 
You know, I I did. 

486
00:27:19,890 --> 00:27:23,380
I worked. 
I worked on him and and I. 

487
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,730
A week out from the publishing 
of our first story, I sent my 

488
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:31,440
final note to him and I said, 
Harry, you asked and I said what

489
00:27:31,450 --> 00:27:33,550
I said to him. 
I said, Harry, you asked me how 

490
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:37,070
I was going to write your story 
and I told you the first time we

491
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,510
met that that was going to be up
to you. 

492
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:44,260
This is your last chance. 
And and I haven't heard from him

493
00:27:44,270 --> 00:27:46,230
since. 
So, you know, I'm, I'm. 

494
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,410
Look, if even even though we 
couldn't be, you know, more 

495
00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:55,190
polar opposites in our political
worldview and how we see things.

496
00:27:55,290 --> 00:27:59,550
That happened on January 6th. 
He's the kind of guy that, you 

497
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:03,950
know, after I've spent the time 
with him that I I have, I could,

498
00:28:04,220 --> 00:28:05,870
you know, I could call him a 
friend. 

499
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:11,510
But unfortunately, he's also the
guy who not only followed, you 

500
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,360
know, not only told the lie 
about this racial and created 

501
00:28:15,370 --> 00:28:18,970
this racial narrative around 
January 6th, which is totally 

502
00:28:18,980 --> 00:28:21,400
unsupported not only by the 
evidence but also by all the 

503
00:28:21,410 --> 00:28:24,110
other capital police officers, 
the the, you know, the the, the,

504
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,270
the capital, the black capital. 
Police officers all tell me to 

505
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,810
the man every one of them that 
I've interviewed didn't happen 

506
00:28:30,460 --> 00:28:32,730
and and those guys that were 
there on the day. 

507
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:35,550
No I was never you know I never 
heard the word never heard the N

508
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:37,310
word. 
I never got you know disparaged 

509
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,100
in any way as a as you know in 
relation to my race or my 

510
00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:47,930
blackness and and they don't 
believe Harry and and so not 

511
00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:54,350
only did he make up this story 
for whatever reason, but then 

512
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,500
the rest of his stories. 
About the day fall apart as well

513
00:28:58,510 --> 00:29:03,140
under the scrutiny of the video 
leading up to and and after his 

514
00:29:03,150 --> 00:29:06,660
encounter with the Oath Keepers 
which of course that testimony 

515
00:29:06,670 --> 00:29:10,530
and the follow up testimony that
supported his by Special Agent 

516
00:29:10,540 --> 00:29:14,640
David Lazarus were key in 
convicting those guys of the the

517
00:29:14,650 --> 00:29:19,460
crimes that they didn't commit. 
That's that's that's going to be

518
00:29:19,470 --> 00:29:22,120
the sad story I think that's 
gonna be the takeaway eventually

519
00:29:22,130 --> 00:29:25,390
when you look truth is going to 
come out here and I appreciate 

520
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,090
you Steve for for staying on 
this story you you've done some 

521
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,200
Yeoman work on it you've been 
committed to it for over a year 

522
00:29:32,310 --> 00:29:36,300
and and I would really really 
look forward to having you back 

523
00:29:36,570 --> 00:29:38,220
either. 
Kyle have you back I'll have you

524
00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:41,590
back if if I have my own show at
that point because I think that 

525
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,340
you cover some great ground here
and expose a lot and and thank 

526
00:29:44,350 --> 00:29:45,920
you for joining me here this 
morning. 

527
00:29:46,250 --> 00:29:48,140
I want to encourage everybody 
here if you have not already. 

528
00:29:48,150 --> 00:29:51,980
Steve's a great follow on the 
axes on the Twitters. 

529
00:29:52,030 --> 00:29:56,620
It's at TPC 4 USA, the pragmatic
Constitutionalist. 

530
00:29:56,670 --> 00:30:00,520
And you also are at the Blaze 
News now as a as a contributor. 

531
00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:03,370
Thanks for joining me this 
morning brother and I have a 

532
00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:04,650
great weekend. 
Thanks, Steve. 

533
00:30:04,660 --> 00:30:08,280
Appreciate it. 
Thank you. 

534
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:11,640
And look, I think Steve kind of 
summed it up there. 

535
00:30:11,730 --> 00:30:14,820
Give us a great transition point
to to what I want to get to. 

536
00:30:14,830 --> 00:30:18,620
But before I get to that, I do 
want to touch on 2nd sponsor 

537
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:21,480
here this morning that's going 
to be The Loop. 

538
00:30:21,490 --> 00:30:25,600
That's the Catholic vote. 
They're sponsored the show and I

539
00:30:25,610 --> 00:30:29,020
was having a discussion with 
with my folks actually recently 

540
00:30:29,030 --> 00:30:31,160
about, you know, where you get 
your news from. 

541
00:30:31,570 --> 00:30:36,620
The loop has become a integral 
part of my my news gathering and

542
00:30:36,630 --> 00:30:40,240
my my learning of what's going 
on every day, folks, If you're 

543
00:30:40,250 --> 00:30:43,050
not getting it, it's free. 
Get your email in there. 

544
00:30:43,100 --> 00:30:48,510
You get a nice email every day 
6:00-ish AM you will, you will 

545
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,010
have it hit your email. 
You will be in the know on 

546
00:30:51,020 --> 00:30:53,130
what's happening. 
You know, I just pulled it up 

547
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:57,210
this morning before we went on 
and and saw that there is some 

548
00:30:57,220 --> 00:30:59,890
reporting on the drag event 
that's going to be going on at 

549
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:02,150
my alma mater, University of 
Notre Dame. 

550
00:31:02,460 --> 00:31:04,650
Obviously that's a hot button 
issue there. 

551
00:31:04,660 --> 00:31:06,210
It's Catholic school. 
Allegedly. 

552
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,600
It's a hot button issue for for 
me as well was having graduated 

553
00:31:09,610 --> 00:31:12,680
from it. 
It's inspiring me to now say 

554
00:31:12,690 --> 00:31:16,040
that when people ask me what 
went to school I tell them my 

555
00:31:16,050 --> 00:31:19,500
high school so some good news in
there I encourage you all to 

556
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:24,460
sign up for it and and and 
really drop some knowledge on 

557
00:31:24,470 --> 00:31:27,060
folks because it's it's always 
bringing one or two stories that

558
00:31:27,070 --> 00:31:30,710
you don't see anywhere else. 
So back to where I want to 

559
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:35,640
transition to and and we are 
approaching Halloween Festivus 

560
00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:39,460
in our household. 
I've got 2 little kids. 

561
00:31:39,550 --> 00:31:42,760
Obviously superheroes are still 
really relevant. 

562
00:31:43,150 --> 00:31:46,330
You know as as those movie that 
movie genre is sort of in its 

563
00:31:46,510 --> 00:31:48,540
tail end. 
It's on the back nine, no 

564
00:31:48,550 --> 00:31:51,980
question about it. 
But the costumes are still large

565
00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:53,940
and around the state of Florida,
man. 

566
00:31:54,130 --> 00:31:57,540
The month of October is 
basically all Halloween weather 

567
00:31:57,550 --> 00:31:59,050
is great. 
Kids can trick or treat all 

568
00:31:59,060 --> 00:32:01,190
these different events, multiple
events throughout the month. 

569
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880
They really they don't. 
They get their money's worth. 

570
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:07,220
Parents get their money's worth 
on the on the costumes we get to

571
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:12,100
go to multiple and and and I 
want to talk about today some of

572
00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:18,320
the issues that came about in 
the original Batman or not 

573
00:32:18,330 --> 00:32:21,830
original but the Christopher 
Nolan trilogy Batman series 

574
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:23,790
because I think they're pretty 
relevant to what's going on 

575
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:26,130
today. 
Ryan, could you to launch us 

576
00:32:26,140 --> 00:32:28,110
off. 
Can you queue up the video for 

577
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,990
here And I think it's relevant 
to also what Steve is bringing 

578
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:35,230
on and we can connect that once 
you go ahead and roll that and 

579
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,310
it wasn't considered an honour, 
it was considered a public 

580
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,630
service. 
Harvey, the last man that they 

581
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,450
appointed to protect the 
Republic was named Caesar and he

582
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,770
never gave up his power. 
OK, fine. 

583
00:32:45,830 --> 00:32:48,950
You either die a hero, or you 
live long enough to see yourself

584
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,730
become the villain. 
Look, whoever the Batman is, he 

585
00:32:52,740 --> 00:32:54,220
doesn't want to do this for the 
rest of his life. 

586
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:56,310
How could he? 
Batman is looking for someone to

587
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,790
take up his mantle. 
Someone Like You, maybe? 

588
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,700
If I'm up to it, what if Harvey 
Dent is the kid crusader? 

589
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:15,160
Alright, die hero. 
Or live long enough to see 

590
00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:18,440
yourself become the villain. 
Obviously, as Steve Baker 

591
00:33:18,510 --> 00:33:22,500
cautioned Harry Dunn about to 
his decisions he's making, he 

592
00:33:22,510 --> 00:33:29,040
was given Congressional medals, 
lauded as a hero, And now as as 

593
00:33:29,050 --> 00:33:31,780
his book has come out and all 
the inconsistencies and flat out

594
00:33:31,790 --> 00:33:35,140
lies are going to be exposed by 
great journalists like Steve, I 

595
00:33:35,150 --> 00:33:37,500
think he might live long enough 
to become the villain. 

596
00:33:37,970 --> 00:33:42,080
David Lazarus obviously has a a 
long and storied career across 

597
00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:45,800
multiple speakers and the man 
has proven to have committed 

598
00:33:45,810 --> 00:33:50,560
perjury in in court to convict 
the Earthkeepers hero now 

599
00:33:50,570 --> 00:33:55,390
becoming the villain suspendable
in general I think. 

600
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:59,210
I think we've we've proven 
through our actions and and what

601
00:33:59,220 --> 00:34:01,850
our willingness to do is that 
we're willing to to die in our 

602
00:34:01,860 --> 00:34:05,130
field come back on our shield 
and which is why I want to bring

603
00:34:05,140 --> 00:34:07,970
in my second guest definitely a 
man who is continues to be a 

604
00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:11,469
hero. 
The GOP actual Garrido Boyle is 

605
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,909
going to join me here to talk 
about his position on this. 

606
00:34:16,460 --> 00:34:19,170
Quickly though Garrett, you you 
good for Halloween. 

607
00:34:19,179 --> 00:34:21,070
All the girls got their other 
costumes. 

608
00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:25,210
So this is where we are set 
apart a little bit from the 

609
00:34:25,219 --> 00:34:27,469
world. 
We don't really participate in 

610
00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,400
Halloween, which we could 
probably do a full show on, but 

611
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,170
we. 
Will see you then. 

612
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,440
We will give them some candy 
still but OK. 

613
00:34:36,449 --> 00:34:39,949
Yeah, alright, alright. 
I respect it. 

614
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,070
Look my my boys have you know 
they don't they don't tend to do

615
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,310
the scary costumes. 
They always do in the superhero 

616
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:46,969
stuff. 
You know pretty positive. 

617
00:34:46,980 --> 00:34:49,980
It's just community event for us
for you know I understand the 

618
00:34:49,989 --> 00:34:53,630
Pagan ritual to it and and we've
actually had that conversation 

619
00:34:53,639 --> 00:34:55,989
with them and they just want to 
go out and get candy. 

620
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:57,770
Actually my little guy doesn't 
even care about the costumes. 

621
00:34:57,780 --> 00:35:00,200
He just wants the candy. 
He's never had a real costume. 

622
00:35:00,210 --> 00:35:02,070
He just gets a hand me down 
every year. 

623
00:35:03,550 --> 00:35:07,100
What's What's cool for them is 
that they have a real superhero 

624
00:35:07,110 --> 00:35:10,060
as dad so they could they could 
start dressing up as you in the 

625
00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:12,160
future. 
Ohhhhh man you're too 

626
00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:16,010
complimentary but you gotta you 
gotta get along with this this 

627
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:18,920
story. 
So my older son we're on the 

628
00:35:18,930 --> 00:35:23,430
we'll be on the Batman topic 
today I think of all the of all 

629
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,660
the superheroes. 
Look he's got no super powers 

630
00:35:25,670 --> 00:35:28,680
you just like a cop right. 
He's a really interesting 

631
00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:32,000
character is sort of an anti 
hero and obviously in that Dark 

632
00:35:32,010 --> 00:35:35,040
Knight movie The Harvey and 
character as a as we'll we'll 

633
00:35:35,050 --> 00:35:38,600
talk about he's presented as the
white knight but he does some 

634
00:35:38,610 --> 00:35:41,740
pretty questionable things even 
before he ultimately turns 

635
00:35:41,750 --> 00:35:45,950
villain. 
But when my oldest son was in 

636
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,790
preschool, he started getting 
obsessed with Batman and wife 

637
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,480
bought him one of those, like 
T-shirts that has the attached 

638
00:35:52,490 --> 00:35:55,180
Cape and he wanted to wear like 
every day. 

639
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,610
So she's just, she got like 
multiple shirts. 

640
00:35:57,620 --> 00:36:00,990
So we were running laundry every
day and I go to pick him up from

641
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,270
preschool and the teacher says, 
hey, look, we have we have a 

642
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,290
problem and he's a real good 
kid. 

643
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:08,550
So I'm brand new parent. 
I'm like, well, what's the 

644
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:09,250
problem? 
She goes. 

645
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:11,830
He's not answering to his name 
anymore. 

646
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:16,500
He's insisting on being called 
Batman and and my immediate 

647
00:36:16,510 --> 00:36:21,160
thought was like if you were the
father to somebody who got a 

648
00:36:21,170 --> 00:36:25,060
medal of honour or became like 
President of the United States, 

649
00:36:25,430 --> 00:36:29,350
you would be slightly less proud
of myself at that point because 

650
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:33,100
that's the most baller move any 
father could ever have for a 

651
00:36:33,110 --> 00:36:38,080
son. 
So what are your thoughts on on 

652
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:41,340
on that sort of first, first 
perspective, the Harvey Dent die

653
00:36:41,350 --> 00:36:43,340
hero or live long enough to 
become a villain. 

654
00:36:43,550 --> 00:36:45,560
You think that's sort of 
appropriate to what we're going 

655
00:36:45,570 --> 00:36:48,080
to see from from your Hairy guns
and David Lazarus? 

656
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:52,580
Yeah, I think absolutely. 
You know, I think just because 

657
00:36:52,950 --> 00:36:58,400
as humans we're all fallible and
I think a lot of people who get 

658
00:36:58,410 --> 00:37:02,100
thrust into situations like 
that, as time goes on, they they

659
00:37:02,110 --> 00:37:06,890
end up forgetting their their 
integrity or the reason why. 

660
00:37:06,980 --> 00:37:11,710
They, you know, we're coming 
forward and speaking up and 

661
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,430
speaking out and it gets all 
about the accolades and and the 

662
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,200
agenda and the notoriety and. 
I think we're starting to see 

663
00:37:19,210 --> 00:37:21,480
the early stages of that with Mr
Dunn. 

664
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:25,080
Yeah, I think that's fair. 
I think it's totally fair and 

665
00:37:25,090 --> 00:37:29,210
that's why you know we we've 
been locked on to the principles

666
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:32,590
of you know what it is to be a 
suspendable you just you draw 

667
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,050
that line and you won't cross 
it. 

668
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,930
You're not in it for any reason 
other than because you know 

669
00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:40,280
what's right. 
So I appreciate it and and and 

670
00:37:40,290 --> 00:37:43,970
that's why everybody needs to go
to the dash to expendables.com, 

671
00:37:43,980 --> 00:37:46,440
get your merch so that everybody
knows that you're a friendly 

672
00:37:46,450 --> 00:37:48,210
when you're out there, you have 
your principles. 

673
00:37:49,340 --> 00:37:52,290
Garrett's got some some new 
merch going on there, everything

674
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,110
going well. 
It's going good. 

675
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:58,270
We dropped a new Sub Stack Tea 
earlier this week. 

676
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,940
It's black and the print is like
green. 

677
00:38:00,950 --> 00:38:03,730
I was going for like a for 
anybody who's ever been under 

678
00:38:03,740 --> 00:38:05,810
nods. 
I was going for that kind of 

679
00:38:05,820 --> 00:38:10,790
effect and there's going to be 
some some new stuff come, some 

680
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,850
new shirts coming out soon, some
more and I'm working on others. 

681
00:38:13,860 --> 00:38:16,050
Like you probably couldn't see 
this but this is like a 

682
00:38:16,060 --> 00:38:17,950
prototype hoodie that I've been 
working on. 

683
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:20,250
But I just. 
Don't want again. 

684
00:38:20,420 --> 00:38:21,550
We didn't see it. 
Yeah. 

685
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,050
There you go. 
I actually, I'm going to go with

686
00:38:25,060 --> 00:38:28,170
a different hoodie just because 
even though this hoodie is very 

687
00:38:28,180 --> 00:38:31,390
comfortable, the white with the 
black, I don't know it just 

688
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,750
doesn't really go. 
So I found one that has a black 

689
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,070
strings so that that'll look 
much better. 

690
00:38:36,130 --> 00:38:38,450
And then yeah, just slowly 
working on stuff. 

691
00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:41,170
I'm finally mostly caught up on 
orders. 

692
00:38:41,180 --> 00:38:44,230
I was in the live chat earlier 
when you guys had Steve Baker 

693
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,600
on. 
And there's a couple orders that

694
00:38:46,610 --> 00:38:49,660
came through already this 
morning and other than that, 

695
00:38:49,670 --> 00:38:53,060
I'm, I'm pretty much caught up. 
I have like 5 of them behind me 

696
00:38:53,070 --> 00:38:54,670
that are packaged up ready to 
go. 

697
00:38:55,050 --> 00:38:59,100
So hopefully I'll be able to 
maintain at least better than I 

698
00:38:59,110 --> 00:39:02,640
had been previously with 
shipping and everything and and 

699
00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,780
stitching that your kids are not
trick or treating. 

700
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:06,760
You got to put them to work with
some labels or something. 

701
00:39:06,770 --> 00:39:08,740
Man, that's fantastic. 
Good to hear that. 

702
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:11,020
Yeah. 
It's going it's going good. 

703
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:14,980
It's it's a fun little hobby. 
I mean it's it's weird. 

704
00:39:15,030 --> 00:39:19,020
You know, like I I saw you, you 
tweeted out something about 

705
00:39:19,110 --> 00:39:23,000
telling your parents how you 
were part of this this movie 

706
00:39:23,010 --> 00:39:26,000
police state and you said 
something like Bizarro World. 

707
00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:31,180
And man, it's certainly is that 
like from from FBI agent to 

708
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:35,120
author and in a movie and then 
in my case from FBI agent to 

709
00:39:35,130 --> 00:39:38,560
pressing T-shirts. 
It's T shirt venture capitalist,

710
00:39:38,570 --> 00:39:39,840
man. 
You got to give yourself. 

711
00:39:39,850 --> 00:39:42,040
It's you gotta give yourself. 
It's gonna take off. 

712
00:39:42,050 --> 00:39:45,280
I know it. 
All right. 

713
00:39:45,290 --> 00:39:48,660
So I want to kind of hammer in 
on a little bit of the issues 

714
00:39:48,670 --> 00:39:53,160
that that Harvey Dent, this 
character brought up in the 

715
00:39:53,170 --> 00:39:56,510
second movie of the trilogy, and
The Dark Knight and the and 

716
00:39:56,570 --> 00:39:58,360
Ryan, could you queue up video 
#2? 

717
00:39:58,710 --> 00:40:03,040
This is a discussion that they 
have about racketeering Rico and

718
00:40:03,050 --> 00:40:07,360
go ahead and roll it. 
Look, give us the money and 

719
00:40:07,370 --> 00:40:11,030
we'll talk about making a deal. 
The money is the only reason I'm

720
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,030
still alive. 
Oh, you mean when they find out 

721
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,600
that you've helped us, they're 
gonna kill? 

722
00:40:16,610 --> 00:40:18,360
You. 
Are you threatening my client? 

723
00:40:18,370 --> 00:40:21,030
No, I'm just assuming your 
clients cooperation with this 

724
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,850
investigation as well. 
Everyone. 

725
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:32,890
No. 
OK, Enjoy your time in county. 

726
00:40:32,900 --> 00:40:38,690
Mr Lau, wait. 
I won't give you the money, but 

727
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,740
I will give you my clients. 
All of them. 

728
00:40:41,780 --> 00:40:45,830
You were glorified accountant. 
What could you possibly have on 

729
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,110
all of them that we could 
charge? 

730
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,790
I'm good with calculation. 
I handled all the investments. 

731
00:40:52,180 --> 00:40:55,640
One big part. 
Got it. 

732
00:40:56,910 --> 00:41:02,390
One minute Rico, they pulled 
their money. 

733
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,830
We can charge them all as one 
criminal conspiracy charge. 

734
00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:07,470
In a Rico case. 
If you can charge one of the 

735
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:14,520
conspirators with a felony, you 
can charge them with Alright 

736
00:41:14,590 --> 00:41:19,480
Rico, I mean, sort of a weird 
thing to bring about a superhero

737
00:41:19,490 --> 00:41:22,440
movie, but it actually is a real
charge. 

738
00:41:22,450 --> 00:41:26,090
I don't know if you ever 
encountered this in the FBI or 

739
00:41:26,100 --> 00:41:28,900
as a cop. 
I actually, as a beat cop, 

740
00:41:28,910 --> 00:41:32,760
charged Rico on a case. 
Really, interestingly enough, 

741
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,220
and I think I probably thought 
of it because I saw the Batman 

742
00:41:35,230 --> 00:41:40,620
movie, but you know, I remember 
the the discussion we had at 

743
00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:44,270
Quantico where they're sort of 
giving you the the broad strokes

744
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,850
of what constitutes A conspiracy
case. 

745
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:53,170
And it would be essentially you 
and I or multiple people, You, 

746
00:41:53,180 --> 00:41:55,990
me, Ryan, we agree that we're 
going to commit a crime. 

747
00:41:56,000 --> 00:42:00,150
You have to have an agreement 
and then secondly you have to 

748
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:04,390
have one of us take an overt act
in furtherance of that. 

749
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:08,630
So we decide we're going to come
up with a bank robbery scheme 

750
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:14,770
and Ryan goes and buys us the 
ski masks or you go and get us a

751
00:42:14,780 --> 00:42:20,990
car or I go and get us some some
some firearms to perpetrate that

752
00:42:21,050 --> 00:42:25,170
that that that robbery that one 
act by any one of us in 

753
00:42:25,260 --> 00:42:29,920
combination with the the 
agreement we have to ultimately 

754
00:42:29,930 --> 00:42:33,980
commit the crime that kind of 
lumps us into this pool 

755
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:38,660
together. 
And and I think that the actual 

756
00:42:38,890 --> 00:42:41,170
spirit behind that makes a 
little bit of sense. 

757
00:42:41,180 --> 00:42:44,600
I mean obviously it's used to go
after these these hardened 

758
00:42:44,610 --> 00:42:49,310
criminals organised crime mafia 
and because all elements up and 

759
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:52,420
down the chain of command were 
were committing acts to further 

760
00:42:52,430 --> 00:42:56,120
the organisation goals. 
But very much like civil asset 

761
00:42:56,130 --> 00:42:59,530
forfeiture, as we heard months 
ago with the with Amy Nelson 

762
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,800
coming forward, it's been sort 
of weaponized and and broadly 

763
00:43:02,810 --> 00:43:06,660
interpreted by by the FBI and by
by law enforcement around the 

764
00:43:06,670 --> 00:43:10,400
country to go after people who 
really were not necessarily 

765
00:43:10,450 --> 00:43:12,700
movers and shakers in a criminal
organisation. 

766
00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:17,580
And and it's casting a wide net.
You know, look no further than 

767
00:43:17,690 --> 00:43:19,660
what we saw with the Gretchen 
Whitmer case. 

768
00:43:19,730 --> 00:43:23,680
There was the interview Kyle had
yesterday with one of those guys

769
00:43:23,690 --> 00:43:26,490
who was fortunately acquitted in
that case. 

770
00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:30,160
They were encouraging guys to go
and do surveillance. 

771
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:33,930
The Whitmer cottage that was on 
the Upper Peninsula of Michigan.

772
00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:37,300
And in the correspondence 
between the informant and the 

773
00:43:37,310 --> 00:43:40,350
agent running the case, they 
said get as many people as you 

774
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,780
can in the vehicle because that 
would enhance the conspiratorial

775
00:43:44,790 --> 00:43:47,670
nature of it. 
That would allow them to get 

776
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,980
more people into the agreement 
that they are then eventually 

777
00:43:50,990 --> 00:43:55,470
going to charge this, this 
racketeering, this Rico case on.

778
00:43:56,500 --> 00:44:00,310
And I want to to bring a case 
for that to Gary and I can talk 

779
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,120
about that. 
I've actually gotten I'm, I'm 

780
00:44:03,170 --> 00:44:05,090
excited because I've done 
speaking events and a couple of 

781
00:44:05,100 --> 00:44:06,440
people have actually brought 
this case out. 

782
00:44:06,450 --> 00:44:09,450
I don't I didn't think it got 
enough acknowledgement and 

783
00:44:09,460 --> 00:44:12,270
that's the Newberg for Gary. 
Have you, have you seen anything

784
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,220
about Newburgh? 
Four. 

785
00:44:13,450 --> 00:44:17,170
Yeah, I've heard of it for sure.
But man, as you were talking, 

786
00:44:17,180 --> 00:44:20,020
there's so much going through my
head just from my time in the 

787
00:44:20,030 --> 00:44:25,100
FBI, especially related to some 
January 6th stuff and your 

788
00:44:25,110 --> 00:44:29,190
mention of the Fed napping hoax 
in Michigan and Eric Molitor's 

789
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,080
interview. 
There's so much. 

790
00:44:31,930 --> 00:44:34,420
It's all just part of the 
weaponization and the lawfare, 

791
00:44:34,430 --> 00:44:37,170
right? 
And as you know, I've been in 

792
00:44:37,180 --> 00:44:40,830
the Old Testament A tonne. 
So Isaiah 10, one says, woe to 

793
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,250
those who make unjust laws, to 
those who issue oppressive 

794
00:44:44,260 --> 00:44:47,880
decrees. 
And although the spirit of a 

795
00:44:47,890 --> 00:44:51,300
Rico law may be good at at its 
heart because it's like, OK, 

796
00:44:51,310 --> 00:44:55,520
we're going to use it to go 
after really bad guys who are 

797
00:44:55,530 --> 00:44:58,200
good at being criminals and 
covering their tracks, it has 

798
00:44:58,210 --> 00:45:02,270
become another weaponized piece 
of what the government is using.

799
00:45:02,340 --> 00:45:07,590
Against the citizens, Yeah. 
Ryan, can you get Video 5 

800
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,420
number? 
Yes, #5. 

801
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:12,820
This is going to be on the 
Newburgh for lot of people don't

802
00:45:12,830 --> 00:45:14,260
really know the background for 
it. 

803
00:45:14,330 --> 00:45:17,430
This is a news piece about it 
and then we'll get into 

804
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,760
ultimately what's come out. 
There's been some court 

805
00:45:19,770 --> 00:45:21,050
documents. 
There's been an update to the 

806
00:45:21,060 --> 00:45:23,930
case. 
Go ahead and roll Video 5 for us

807
00:45:24,620 --> 00:45:28,790
A victory in court for three men
convicted in a terrorism sting 

808
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,680
more than a decade ago. 
Police arrested the men last 

809
00:45:31,690 --> 00:45:34,210
night as they were allegedly 
planting what they thought were 

810
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:36,130
real bombs outside a Jewish 
temple. 

811
00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:39,430
A federal judge ordering the 
release of Onta Williams, David 

812
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:42,650
Williams and Laguerre Payne. 
Three of the men, known as the 

813
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:46,190
Newburgh 4, arrested for a plot 
to blow up synagogues in New 

814
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,590
York City and shoot down 
National Guard planes in upstate

815
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,700
New York. 
The suspects allegedly conducted

816
00:45:51,710 --> 00:45:54,590
surveillance and took photos of 
possible targets. 

817
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:58,210
The scathing decision U.S. 
District Judge Colleen McMahon 

818
00:45:58,220 --> 00:46:02,450
accusing FBI agents of trying to
arrest petty criminals by 

819
00:46:02,460 --> 00:46:05,770
radicalising the men to 
participate in a plot she called

820
00:46:05,830 --> 00:46:10,830
in FBI orchestrated conspiracy. 
McMahon adding quote the real 

821
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,490
lead conspirator was the United 
States. 

822
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,680
That sounds like strong 
language, but it's just a pure 

823
00:46:16,690 --> 00:46:19,010
description of the facts of this
case. 

824
00:46:19,060 --> 00:46:22,930
The judge also accusing the FBI 
of using a quote villain of an 

825
00:46:22,940 --> 00:46:26,600
informant to prey on the poor, 
then manipulate Amanda comma 

826
00:46:26,610 --> 00:46:31,020
fake crime in exchange for cash,
materials and even groceries. 

827
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:33,360
Where the defence is starting to
raise questions about the 

828
00:46:33,370 --> 00:46:36,860
informant and whether these men 
were duped every step of the way

829
00:46:36,870 --> 00:46:39,180
was all the FBI. 
These guys couldn't. 

830
00:46:39,290 --> 00:46:42,420
They had no drivers licences. 
They couldn't find Google Maps 

831
00:46:42,430 --> 00:46:46,120
of where these targets are that 
the FBI informant told them to 

832
00:46:46,130 --> 00:46:48,160
use. 
I mean they came up with not one

833
00:46:48,170 --> 00:46:51,760
single part of the spot. 
It was all the FBI FBI informant

834
00:46:51,770 --> 00:46:54,400
Shahid Hussain, who made 
headlines again when a stretch 

835
00:46:54,410 --> 00:46:57,790
limo operated by his company 
crashed in rural New York, 

836
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,470
killing twenty people. 
Manslaughter in the second 

837
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:05,320
degree. 
Hussein now serving A5 to all 

838
00:47:05,330 --> 00:47:09,670
right that's a news report about
these guys and I had the 

839
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,590
opportunity to read this 
document that the the the judge 

840
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:14,500
issued in this ruling that that 
released them. 

841
00:47:14,510 --> 00:47:16,320
And I think it kind of gives a 
little bit of background about 

842
00:47:16,330 --> 00:47:19,710
this story on this is going to 
be a article #2 right. 

843
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:22,790
It was a PDF that I sent you. 
I can think of nothing better 

844
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,390
than to read a couple of 
documents or couple lines out of

845
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,810
it to sort of give the viewers 
and audience some background in 

846
00:47:28,820 --> 00:47:31,270
this case because this is just 
all too familiar. 

847
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,790
This is the tried and true 
playbook. 

848
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,870
Garrett and I have talked about 
it, Kyle and I have talked about

849
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:37,110
it. 
But the background of this 

850
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,180
actually happened about 13 years
ago, October 2010. 

851
00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:46,400
These these David Williams onto 
Williams and Legare Payton were 

852
00:47:46,410 --> 00:47:50,500
convicted together with James 
Chromite of conspiracy again 

853
00:47:50,510 --> 00:47:53,760
conspiracy to use weapons of 
mass destruction, conspiracy to 

854
00:47:53,770 --> 00:47:57,060
acquire and use anti aircraft 
missiles, Conspiracy to kill 

855
00:47:57,070 --> 00:47:59,140
officers and employees of the 
US. 

856
00:47:59,190 --> 00:48:01,700
Three Counts of attempted use of
Weapons of mass Destruction. 

857
00:48:01,710 --> 00:48:04,160
One Count of Attempted 
Acquisition and use of anti 

858
00:48:04,170 --> 00:48:05,970
aircraft missiles, etcetera 
etcetera. 

859
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,590
All in connection with their 
participation in FBI 

860
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,860
orchestrated conspiracy to bomb 
a Jewish community centre in the

861
00:48:11,870 --> 00:48:15,490
Bronx and destroy military 
aircraft at the New York Air 

862
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:19,190
National Guard base at Stewart 
Airport in Newburgh, NY. 

863
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,250
Thus the the Newburgh Four. 
And as you work through this 

864
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:27,450
they were actually sentenced 
because of the the enhancement 

865
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:30,920
for Terrorist charges mandatory 
minimum of 25 years. 

866
00:48:32,080 --> 00:48:36,070
And if you if you read into it 
the the judge is pretty scathing

867
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,670
in a in a remarks and says a 
person reading the crimes of 

868
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,170
conviction in this case would be
left with the impression that 

869
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:43,890
the offending defendants were 
sophisticated international 

870
00:48:43,900 --> 00:48:47,370
terrorists committed to jihad 
against the United States. 

871
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:51,510
They were in reality hapless, 
easily manipulated and her 

872
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,330
nerious petty criminals again, 
those vulnerable people. 

873
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,230
The folks that we've been 
talking about and and the last 

874
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,270
part I'll read before I get your
thoughts on this Garrett and and

875
00:49:02,570 --> 00:49:08,560
more background to this case. 
In early April 2008 the one of 

876
00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:11,950
the defendants comedy by now 
unemployed and broke, reached 

877
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:14,710
out to Hussein who's the 
informant agreed to participate 

878
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:17,150
in a mission. 
Over the course of the next few 

879
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:20,150
weeks at Hussein's direction he 
recruited David and aunt to 

880
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,870
Williams and Laguerre Payen to 
serve as lookouts while they 

881
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,390
planted the bombs in. 
The bombs obviously were 

882
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,210
manufactured by the FBI at the 
synagogue. 

883
00:49:29,220 --> 00:49:31,370
So these guys were not even 
pushing the button. 

884
00:49:31,380 --> 00:49:34,370
They were just basically on the 
corner as a lookout. 

885
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,390
None of the three defendants had
any history as terrorists. 

886
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,630
They were impoverished, small 
time grifters, drug users, St 

887
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,690
level dealers who could use some
money. 

888
00:49:44,500 --> 00:49:47,630
Yeah, exactly. 
And how often is that the case 

889
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,710
with crime? 
It's people looking for an 

890
00:49:49,720 --> 00:49:53,430
opportunity because yeah, 
they're they're, you know, they 

891
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:57,050
don't have a a strong moral 
character and they're trying to 

892
00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:58,590
get by. 
So they're selling dope or 

893
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,890
whatever. 
Or in this case, man, I'm really

894
00:50:00,940 --> 00:50:04,820
back on my heels. 
So sure, I'll agree to whatever,

895
00:50:04,830 --> 00:50:08,510
and I'll be a lookout, you know,
while you were you were talking,

896
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,400
I pulled up. 
I pull up that document and was 

897
00:50:10,410 --> 00:50:12,390
skimming through it. 
The judge also said the real 

898
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,280
lead conspirator was the United 
States. 

899
00:50:15,690 --> 00:50:18,450
Yeah, but these guys lives are 
ruined. 

900
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,910
I mean, they they were locked 
away long enough. 

901
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:23,490
What do you do now? 
Well I mean how do you, how do 

902
00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:26,870
you rectify that and. 
I'm going to agree with the 

903
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:30,330
judge that the the real lead 
conspirator was the US. 

904
00:50:30,610 --> 00:50:33,210
So who is going to be held to 
account now? 

905
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,470
Nobody, I bet you. 
Lots of promotions, lots of 

906
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:41,950
bonuses, lots of, you know, 
awards and other accolades were,

907
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,150
you know, divvied about amongst 
the squad and whoever else, 

908
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,910
especially amongst the 
supervisors. 

909
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,520
And how many people put this in 
there? 

910
00:50:48,530 --> 00:50:53,080
What is it 954 to? 
To to try to get that next 

911
00:50:53,090 --> 00:50:55,720
promotion. 
And you know, this is something 

912
00:50:55,730 --> 00:50:59,370
we see time and time again and 
this is another thing we've 

913
00:50:59,380 --> 00:51:03,280
talked about is this 
weaponization of the informant 

914
00:51:03,290 --> 00:51:06,780
pool, which that's been going on
for decades and decades and 

915
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:09,150
decades. 
Yeah, yeah, I mean and look 

916
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,940
this, this is 15 year old case 
at this point. 

917
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:13,580
I mean these guys are probably 
the agents who worked there. 

918
00:51:13,590 --> 00:51:16,430
I would assume large share of 
them are even retired on to the 

919
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:18,880
next thing. 
They they milked everything they

920
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:21,590
could to get out of it and these
guys went away before like 

921
00:51:21,670 --> 00:51:24,520
iPhones were out and how are 
they going to adjust to the 

922
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:27,520
current society and and and have
this on their record even I 

923
00:51:27,530 --> 00:51:30,190
don't know if the if the 
terrorist connection was going 

924
00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,540
to be sort of expunged from them
if they're going to go apply for

925
00:51:32,550 --> 00:51:34,600
a job do they have to tell them 
they've been convicted of being 

926
00:51:34,610 --> 00:51:36,720
a terrorist in the United States
Like what what are your career 

927
00:51:36,730 --> 00:51:41,080
prospects and and this is just 
the collateral damage because 

928
00:51:41,170 --> 00:51:44,700
careers have to be advanced and 
the self looking ice cream cone 

929
00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:51,770
must be fed or the FBI So moving
on from Newburgh the Brian this 

930
00:51:51,780 --> 00:51:55,110
can be video 3. 
Back to the The Dark Knight, the

931
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:59,310
the mid level offenders that 
that Harvey Dent talks about. 

932
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:00,840
You go ahead and go ahead and 
roll that one. 

933
00:52:01,590 --> 00:52:04,300
Well, I don't know about Mr 
Lowe's travel arrangements, but 

934
00:52:04,350 --> 00:52:08,640
I'm sure glad he's back With 
word out we hired the clown. 

935
00:52:11,250 --> 00:52:14,020
He was right. 
You have to fix the real 

936
00:52:14,110 --> 00:52:21,480
problem, Batman. 
I'm not aware of any 

937
00:52:21,490 --> 00:52:24,040
participation by the that. 
Management boy looks good on the

938
00:52:24,050 --> 00:52:26,140
tube. 
You sure you want to embarrass 

939
00:52:26,150 --> 00:52:27,780
me in front of my friends, 
Lieutenant? 

940
00:52:27,980 --> 00:52:39,110
Don't worry, they're coming too.
Have a nice trip. 

941
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,350
See you next fall. 712 counts of
extortion, 849 counts of 

942
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:48,530
racketeering, 246 counts of 
fraud, 87 counts of conspiracy 

943
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:53,440
murder, 527 counts of 
obstruction of justice. 

944
00:52:53,810 --> 00:53:05,510
How did the defendants plead? 
549 criminals at once? 

945
00:53:05,620 --> 00:53:08,150
How did you convince Cirillo to 
hear the sparse? 

946
00:53:08,220 --> 00:53:10,280
She shares my enthusiasm for 
justice. 

947
00:53:11,150 --> 00:53:13,680
After all, she is a judge. 
Well, even if you blow enough 

948
00:53:13,690 --> 00:53:16,120
smoke to get convictions at a 
Cerrillo, you're gonna set a new

949
00:53:16,130 --> 00:53:18,020
record at appeals for quickest 
kick in the ass. 

950
00:53:18,150 --> 00:53:20,740
It won't matter. 
The head guys make bail, sure, 

951
00:53:20,790 --> 00:53:22,280
but the mid level guys, they 
can't. 

952
00:53:23,170 --> 00:53:25,130
They can't afford to be off the 
streets long enough for trial. 

953
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:27,280
On appeal, they'll cut deals 
that include some gaol time. 

954
00:53:27,350 --> 00:53:29,770
Think of all you could do with 
18 months of clean streets. 

955
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,710
Does that sound like justice to 
you Garrett? 

956
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:40,830
Where do you have a prosecutor 
who knows what he's doing? 

957
00:53:41,540 --> 00:53:45,070
He's going to be overturned 
immediately on appeal but he 

958
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,230
sees the the greater good you 
have to break some eggs to to 

959
00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:52,910
make this omelette and he's 
because these mid level guys are

960
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,390
can't afford to pay for an 
attorney. 

961
00:53:55,460 --> 00:53:58,550
They just cut the deal and and 
and go to gaol. 

962
00:53:59,970 --> 00:54:02,870
That sounds like a law 
enforcement. 

963
00:54:02,940 --> 00:54:07,760
That sounds like the FBI. 
That sounds like many AUSA and 

964
00:54:07,770 --> 00:54:09,910
FBI agents. 
They know precisely what they're

965
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:13,650
doing, which I think makes it 
all the more heinous. 

966
00:54:14,220 --> 00:54:17,070
And, you know, let's just stay 
in the realm of Batman. 

967
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,070
Yeah, OK. 
We can all agree that the bad 

968
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:24,130
guys are the bad guys, more or 
less DC Comics and is black and 

969
00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:27,190
white when it comes to the 
character development. 

970
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,290
I know there's a little nuance 
there depending on your 

971
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:32,210
character, but. 
These low level guys as Harvey 

972
00:54:32,220 --> 00:54:35,550
Dentist talking about, let's all
just agree they're criminals. 

973
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,150
They're bad. 
They need to be locked up. 

974
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,610
They're doing bad things, murder
and selling dope, whatever. 

975
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:43,810
OK, fine. 
But in the United States they 

976
00:54:43,820 --> 00:54:48,300
still have due process. 
And Harvey Dent is describing 

977
00:54:48,310 --> 00:54:53,630
the precise and around that is 
used in real life by prosecutors

978
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:58,220
and judges and FBI agents to 
quote, unquote, get justice. 

979
00:54:58,230 --> 00:55:00,670
Does any of this sound just to 
anyone Once you? 

980
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,250
Really. 
Start, you know, peeling back 

981
00:55:02,260 --> 00:55:04,430
the layers of the onion here. 
Like you said, he knows 

982
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,610
precisely what he's doing and 
he's doing it anyways. 

983
00:55:07,660 --> 00:55:09,250
Exactly. 
This is the guy who has the 

984
00:55:09,260 --> 00:55:11,430
power. 
And guys, we're noticing the 

985
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,110
chatter. 
There's there's like over 1000 

986
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:18,080
watching to make sure you're 
liking this show as as as we 

987
00:55:18,090 --> 00:55:20,930
continue to grow and I continue 
to get opportunities to to fill 

988
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:25,060
this chair as Kyle gets big time
then ultimately you're helping 

989
00:55:25,070 --> 00:55:28,380
me so keep doing the Lords work 
out there guys make sure you 

990
00:55:28,390 --> 00:55:32,240
click the like make sure the 
thumb goes green on us and 

991
00:55:32,250 --> 00:55:35,160
actually what Gary well we're 
watching that and that we have 

992
00:55:35,170 --> 00:55:38,980
this list of charges I I 
couldn't help but thinking about

993
00:55:38,990 --> 00:55:43,980
a certain orange tinged person 
and all the the charges and and 

994
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:48,830
folks that were roped in which 
is why right can you get ready 

995
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:52,310
with the with video number six 
but and actually first let's 

996
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,950
pull up article #4 this is this 
is Jenna Ellis who was an 

997
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,580
attorney for the for the for the
trump campaign and was an 

998
00:56:01,590 --> 00:56:04,470
announcement that she was I 
guess the 4th person that's 

999
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,680
third or fourth is going to be 
pleading guilty in this Fulton 

1000
00:56:06,690 --> 00:56:09,150
County. 
From what I understand about and

1001
00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:12,210
and I don't know about her her 
allegiance at this point, I 

1002
00:56:12,220 --> 00:56:14,810
think she's a she's a supporter 
of DeSantis so there's a lot of 

1003
00:56:14,820 --> 00:56:16,730
infighting as the primary goes 
on. 

1004
00:56:17,530 --> 00:56:20,070
She's certainly a low level mid 
level person in that 

1005
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:24,130
organisation in the fight over 
the election results in Georgia 

1006
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,830
and and I know I've seen her do 
some interviews it was projected

1007
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:31,830
she was going to need like half 
$1,000,000 to defend herself 

1008
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,670
here and then obviously couldn't
afford to do that try to do a 

1009
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:37,590
charitable rate arm raised about
I guess like 200. 

1010
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,950
So she's still going to have 
some bills to pay here and 

1011
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:44,520
ultimately it led to her 
pleading guilty and and she got 

1012
00:56:44,530 --> 00:56:49,070
to have what I think is a 
struggle session on national TV 

1013
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,130
and that's going to be a video 
#6. 

1014
00:56:51,180 --> 00:56:53,770
Ryan, can you pull that one up 
and roll it for us? 

1015
00:56:58,180 --> 00:57:00,390
Thank you, Your Honour, for the 
opportunity to address the 

1016
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,290
court. 
As an attorney who is also a 

1017
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:09,470
Christian, I take my 
responsibilities as a lawyer 

1018
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:13,410
very seriously and I endeavour 
to be a person of sound moral 

1019
00:57:13,420 --> 00:57:15,850
and ethical character in all of 
my dealings. 

1020
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,330
In the wake of the 2020 
presidential election, I 

1021
00:57:20,340 --> 00:57:22,990
believed that challenging the 
results on behalf of President 

1022
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,750
Trump should be pursued in a 
just and legal way. 

1023
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,160
I endeavoured to represent my 
client to the best of my 

1024
00:57:29,170 --> 00:57:31,470
ability. 
I relied on others, including 

1025
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,810
lawyers with many more years of 
experience than I, to provide me

1026
00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:38,170
with true and reliable 
information, especially since my

1027
00:57:38,180 --> 00:57:41,130
role involved in speaking to the
media and to legislators in 

1028
00:57:41,140 --> 00:57:44,270
various states. 
What I did not do, but should 

1029
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:47,190
have done your honour, was to 
make sure that the facts the 

1030
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,670
other lawyers alleged to be true
were in fact true In the 

1031
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,270
frenetic pace of attempting to 
raise challenges to the election

1032
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,250
in several states, including 
Georgia. 

1033
00:57:56,580 --> 00:58:00,070
I failed to do my due diligence.
I believe in and I value 

1034
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:03,110
election integrity. 
If I knew then what I know now, 

1035
00:58:03,180 --> 00:58:06,070
I would have declined to 
represent Donald Trump in these 

1036
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,740
post election challenges. 
I look back on this whole 

1037
00:58:08,750 --> 00:58:11,820
experience with deep remorse for
those feelings. 

1038
00:58:15,340 --> 00:58:18,000
Ryan, that's harsh, man. 
I mean look, you can have the 

1039
00:58:18,010 --> 00:58:19,510
debate here. 
Is she gonna die a hero? 

1040
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,090
Is she gonna take it all the way
or live long enough to become a 

1041
00:58:22,100 --> 00:58:24,070
villain? 
Obviously Producer Ryan thinks 

1042
00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:27,250
she's now a villain. 
My, my point in bringing that up

1043
00:58:27,300 --> 00:58:30,810
is you know, obviously it's it's
consistent with a bid level 

1044
00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:32,450
person being forced to do 
something. 

1045
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:35,150
And she was, she was a lawyer. 
I mean she was representing a 

1046
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,140
client. 
I don't, I don't know about 

1047
00:58:37,150 --> 00:58:39,670
that. 
And then and now she's doing a 

1048
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,390
North Korean style struggle. 
Session. 

1049
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:45,270
Yeah, my takeaway is there. 
And you know, I don't know all 

1050
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,160
the details of the case, 
however. 

1051
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,840
Man dude, there's just so much. 
My favourite part is she 

1052
00:58:52,850 --> 00:58:57,170
references how I'm a lawyer and 
a Christian, so OK, I wonder if 

1053
00:58:57,180 --> 00:59:00,520
she's ever read Isaiah 59. 
Four that says no one enters 

1054
00:59:00,530 --> 00:59:03,410
suit justly. 
No one goes to law honestly. 

1055
00:59:03,420 --> 00:59:07,090
They rely on empty pleas. 
They speak lies, they conceive 

1056
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:09,150
mischief and give birth to 
iniquity. 

1057
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,750
So she was on the receiving end 
of that at first, trying to 

1058
00:59:12,760 --> 00:59:17,830
raise half $1,000,000 to try and
defend herself and didn't quite 

1059
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:18,970
get there. 
So. 

1060
00:59:19,630 --> 00:59:22,160
Again, not knowing all the 
details to me sounds like she 

1061
00:59:22,170 --> 00:59:24,580
cut a deal. 
Part of that deal was a 

1062
00:59:24,590 --> 00:59:29,780
remorseful apology recorded to 
be released and so to show her 

1063
00:59:29,790 --> 00:59:33,020
quote, unquote remorse. 
And it also makes me think of 

1064
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:37,080
when I was given the quote 
unquote opportunity to appeal 

1065
00:59:37,150 --> 00:59:39,460
the FBI's decision about a year 
ago. 

1066
00:59:39,590 --> 00:59:43,580
It was last October and it was 
early October. 

1067
00:59:43,590 --> 00:59:48,520
But in my written portion of 
that I I put James 4/17 which 

1068
00:59:48,530 --> 00:59:51,140
says that for the person who 
knows the right thing to do and.

1069
00:59:51,210 --> 00:59:54,390
Doesn't do it for him. 
It's sin and I wonder if that's 

1070
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,370
part of her struggle session is 
she knows that she failed to do 

1071
00:59:58,380 --> 01:00:03,520
the right thing and she she 
caved under under pressure 

1072
01:00:03,580 --> 01:00:06,110
because it's the cost is too 
high. 

1073
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:11,450
I can't risk going to to prison.
OK, I'll change my tune and and 

1074
01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:16,590
just accept the fact that. 
And even just say that, oh, I 

1075
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,170
was wrong. 
I was wrong. 

1076
01:00:18,180 --> 01:00:20,910
And how I was representing my 
client were you, though? 

1077
01:00:21,020 --> 01:00:26,420
Because as a trained lawyer and 
if you're representing Donald 

1078
01:00:26,430 --> 01:00:32,170
Trump, not only a former 
president but a very wealthy 

1079
01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:36,060
businessman, I would imagine 
that you're pretty damn good 

1080
01:00:36,070 --> 01:00:40,170
lawyer on top of it. 
And now suddenly, oh, if I knew 

1081
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,920
now what I if I knew then what I
know now if things would have 

1082
01:00:44,930 --> 01:00:47,740
been different. 
OK, well, which is the lie is, 

1083
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:51,220
is my question. 
Because I just, you know, call 

1084
01:00:51,230 --> 01:00:55,000
call me cynical if you want, but
I I have a hard time believing 

1085
01:00:55,170 --> 01:00:57,500
that she's being truthful at 
this point. 

1086
01:00:57,570 --> 01:01:00,720
She just caved, which we we have
seen so many times. 

1087
01:01:00,790 --> 01:01:03,580
We see it daily from our former 
colleagues. 

1088
01:01:03,590 --> 01:01:07,500
They just give in. 
If they're not a weaponized 

1089
01:01:07,930 --> 01:01:10,800
piece of the weaponized 
apparatchik themselves, you 

1090
01:01:10,810 --> 01:01:14,910
know, willingly doing the 
bidding of the regime, then 

1091
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,890
they're they're quiet minions 
going along to get along. 

1092
01:01:18,900 --> 01:01:21,720
And you know, I think it has 
been credited to Dietrich 

1093
01:01:21,730 --> 01:01:25,770
Bonhoeffer, who was murdered in 
Nazi Germany, who said the 

1094
01:01:25,780 --> 01:01:28,610
silence in the face of evil is 
evil itself. 

1095
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:33,120
And I I mean, yeah. 
So if if you're silent when you 

1096
01:01:33,130 --> 01:01:37,280
know evil is happening, you're 
complicit, which makes you just 

1097
01:01:37,290 --> 01:01:39,400
as evil. 
Yep. 

1098
01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:41,110
I think that's what I said. 
I'm glad you brought that back 

1099
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:44,020
to our our former I guess it's 
my former your current 

1100
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:47,020
colleagues because you still are
technically a suspended FBI 

1101
01:01:47,030 --> 01:01:50,920
agent and I I think we need kind
of a palate cleanse over the 

1102
01:01:50,930 --> 01:01:54,880
debate over hill or villain or 
hero when it comes to to Miss 

1103
01:01:54,890 --> 01:01:57,490
Ellis. 
And that's why I I wanted to 

1104
01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:02,160
highlight as we close the things
out here, Article #3, Brian, 

1105
01:02:02,170 --> 01:02:05,900
this is the the announcement 
from a power oversight about our

1106
01:02:05,910 --> 01:02:09,430
fellow suspendable Marcus 
Allen's going to be bringing. 

1107
01:02:09,500 --> 01:02:14,050
Lawsuit forward a it's a it's a 
peel the fact that he was 

1108
01:02:14,060 --> 01:02:15,640
retaliated against as a 
whistleblower. 

1109
01:02:15,710 --> 01:02:18,500
He's definitely a guy look you 
know not to speak as we speak 

1110
01:02:18,510 --> 01:02:22,140
he's he's definitely a quiet 
professional he's he speaks to 

1111
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:26,380
us in our private chats a little
bit he's but he's definitely 

1112
01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:29,160
he's definitely a bro as far as 
this Expendables are concerned 

1113
01:02:29,270 --> 01:02:33,300
when he his feet were put to the
fire he's fought tooth and nail.

1114
01:02:33,550 --> 01:02:37,180
He's going to go out on a shield
and even if his career dies he 

1115
01:02:37,190 --> 01:02:40,440
will he will die a hero here. 
I think you probably share my 

1116
01:02:40,450 --> 01:02:42,790
sentiment on that 1. 
I absolutely do. 

1117
01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:47,910
Um, you know, when when things 
get get tough, and as you know 

1118
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,070
they do, it ebbs and flows. 
And even with our little band of

1119
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,910
suspend tables, sometimes it 
still feels like you're very 

1120
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,790
alone on an island. 
And I think just Marcus's 

1121
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:01,290
character and the way he has 
gone about this, you know, kind 

1122
01:03:01,300 --> 01:03:05,450
of reminds me of the first, I 
don't know, 6-7 months or 

1123
01:03:05,460 --> 01:03:08,770
however long it was between my 
suspension and when we 

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01:03:08,780 --> 01:03:12,800
testified. 
It was difficult as you know 

1125
01:03:12,810 --> 01:03:16,300
because I was I was speaking 
with you and Kyle you know 

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01:03:16,310 --> 01:03:20,780
behind, behind the scenes still 
I struggled with that and you 

1127
01:03:20,790 --> 01:03:24,640
know now getting to know Marcus 
and I'm sure he does too. 

1128
01:03:24,910 --> 01:03:29,460
But we all have our role to play
and like you said he's he will 

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01:03:29,550 --> 01:03:33,680
return on his shield or not at 
all and that's just the way you 

1130
01:03:33,690 --> 01:03:35,440
have to be. 
You know, I'm, I'm sure there 

1131
01:03:35,450 --> 01:03:38,840
are people out there maybe maybe
not in our live chat or or 

1132
01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:42,120
watching the show other than the
ones that set The Who probably 

1133
01:03:42,130 --> 01:03:45,060
think, man, these guys are just 
alarmists, you know, And it's 

1134
01:03:45,070 --> 01:03:48,660
like, no, the building is on 
fire. 

1135
01:03:48,710 --> 01:03:50,900
I think I said that last time I 
was with Kyle. 

1136
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:54,560
But the buildings on fire and 
where we're trying to usher 

1137
01:03:54,570 --> 01:03:57,870
everybody out and say, hey, 
don't you see the fire like it's

1138
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:01,440
burning down and we have to go 
because this is. 

1139
01:04:02,230 --> 01:04:06,580
I mean just look at history, 
time and time and time and time 

1140
01:04:06,590 --> 01:04:10,260
and time again. 
This is how you get a 

1141
01:04:10,270 --> 01:04:14,640
tyrannical, authoritarian 
totalitarian dictatorship. 

1142
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:19,280
It always happens this way. 
First, the the ranks of the of 

1143
01:04:19,290 --> 01:04:22,380
the military and government 
quote unquote service are 

1144
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:25,200
purged. 
Dissidents end up getting locked

1145
01:04:25,210 --> 01:04:30,540
up or maligned or threatened and
purged. 

1146
01:04:30,610 --> 01:04:35,300
And then it's it's the normal 
citizenry that it happens to. 

1147
01:04:35,350 --> 01:04:38,230
And we're seeing it all kind of 
happen at once with with the 

1148
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:42,030
Gulag and DC for J Sixers. 
And again, I feel like I always,

1149
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:45,530
we always have to caveat this. 
We're not saying every single 

1150
01:04:45,540 --> 01:04:49,540
person who was involved on 
January 6th should just carte 

1151
01:04:49,550 --> 01:04:52,250
blanche, walk away free. 
There were people who committed 

1152
01:04:52,260 --> 01:04:56,060
crimes that day, but there were 
also people who stayed behind 

1153
01:04:56,070 --> 01:04:58,380
the velvet ropes and walked 
through and was it dumb? 

1154
01:04:58,390 --> 01:05:00,310
Yeah. 
Does it mean they go to prison? 

1155
01:05:00,380 --> 01:05:03,790
No, it absolutely should not. 
This is, this is what a 

1156
01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,050
tyrannical government looks like
you. 

1157
01:05:06,060 --> 01:05:08,490
We're seeing it in real time. 
Excellent. 

1158
01:05:08,500 --> 01:05:10,270
Well said. 
Yeah, well said. 

1159
01:05:11,010 --> 01:05:14,310
You want to we're about to close
it out here folks but I want to 

1160
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:19,740
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01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:25,570
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1163
01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:30,170
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I I've been told I am not I'm 

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01:05:30,180 --> 01:05:31,650
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1165
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that it's an excellent product. 
Make sure you use your promo 

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01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:40,450
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Yeah right. 

1168
01:05:40,460 --> 01:05:42,460
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Right that's that's what you 

1169
01:05:42,470 --> 01:05:43,980
got. 
Yes Sir. 

1170
01:05:44,050 --> 01:05:47,000
I like this liberty and then and
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1171
01:05:47,010 --> 01:05:50,180
look you agree with them or not 
in politics that guys willing to

1172
01:05:50,190 --> 01:05:53,700
die on his shield as well you 
know he's he's he's fighting for

1173
01:05:53,710 --> 01:05:57,080
what he believes in and and he's
paid a price for it and I I 

1174
01:05:57,090 --> 01:06:00,880
think I think that needs to be 
recognised regardless of what 

1175
01:06:00,890 --> 01:06:03,000
you you know your opinions are 
and what he's doing. 

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I think it's a worthy of of 
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So, so folks if you're going to 

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the suspend rules out and I and 

1181
01:06:17,980 --> 01:06:20,110
I want to finish out here on The
Batman. 

1182
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,130
You didn't know this, but you 
just broke the all time record 

1183
01:06:23,140 --> 01:06:25,150
for likes during a one hour live
stream show. 

1184
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:27,100
We just hit over 300. 
We've never done that before. 

1185
01:06:27,110 --> 01:06:28,570
Congratulations man. 
Nice work. 

1186
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:33,300
Thank you very much. 
Hey, hey we we we we actually we

1187
01:06:33,310 --> 01:06:36,530
we were able to sustain the 
weight of a loss of the host of 

1188
01:06:36,540 --> 01:06:41,040
the show which means that we now
have a strong case for the watch

1189
01:06:41,050 --> 01:06:43,230
list or whatever. 
Going to call it Garrett. 

1190
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:44,960
You know I just read the my 
Pillow ad. 

1191
01:06:45,070 --> 01:06:47,540
What do you think is going to be
our our first sponsor? 

1192
01:06:47,590 --> 01:06:49,140
My. 
I'm betting either on the the 

1193
01:06:49,150 --> 01:06:51,740
stand up bathtub or the 
hurricane. 

1194
01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:56,880
I'm going to stand up bathtub. 
I like that. 

1195
01:06:56,990 --> 01:06:58,900
Alright, that's good. 
Alright, well, we'll, we'll try 

1196
01:06:58,910 --> 01:07:02,260
to appeal to that. 
Alright, right. 

1197
01:07:02,270 --> 01:07:04,930
The last video I want to show 
folks and this is sort of a 

1198
01:07:04,940 --> 01:07:08,260
throwback to last week's comment
that I made about clearing 

1199
01:07:08,270 --> 01:07:12,000
corners of TV's and it was it 
was an inside joke. 

1200
01:07:12,010 --> 01:07:13,400
We we we laughed about 
afterwards. 

1201
01:07:13,410 --> 01:07:15,160
It might have been lost on the 
on the masses. 

1202
01:07:15,350 --> 01:07:19,050
Could you queue up video #7 for 
me here And this is actually 

1203
01:07:19,060 --> 01:07:22,720
from The Dark Knight Rises but 
it's my favourite scene from all

1204
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:25,760
of the the the trilogy because 
of Commissioner Gordon. 

1205
01:07:25,770 --> 01:07:41,410
So go ahead and roll it. 
Are you OK? 

1206
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,780
Police officer, I need you for 
right now. 

1207
01:08:34,870 --> 01:08:39,149
Play the corners, rookie. 
Got the coach sign. 

1208
01:08:40,990 --> 01:08:44,279
Clear the corners, rookie. 
That's right. 

1209
01:08:44,380 --> 01:08:46,670
That's right folks. 
If you do not know that, that's 

1210
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,859
a basic principle of close 
quarter battle. 

1211
01:08:48,950 --> 01:08:50,979
You have to make sure you dig 
the corner when you go in. 

1212
01:08:50,990 --> 01:08:53,260
That's where the bad guy that's 
where the real threats going to 

1213
01:08:53,270 --> 01:08:56,140
be. 
Obviously Robin there had not 

1214
01:08:56,149 --> 01:08:58,120
learned that lesson even though 
he had ascended to become a 

1215
01:08:58,130 --> 01:09:00,359
detective. 
As is often the case, they get a

1216
01:09:00,370 --> 01:09:02,979
little bit soft. 
And that's also why you don't 

1217
01:09:02,990 --> 01:09:05,720
need a backup to clear TP. 
There are no corners. 

1218
01:09:05,910 --> 01:09:08,319
But I'm glad that I had you here
with me today, Garrett. 

1219
01:09:08,330 --> 01:09:11,640
I know if I had to run the 
rabbit you would have my back. 

1220
01:09:12,250 --> 01:09:14,700
As we cleared the the corner on 
the corner fed room, right? 

1221
01:09:14,750 --> 01:09:17,240
Yes Sir, of course. 
Alright. 

1222
01:09:17,410 --> 01:09:20,380
Well, thanks folks. 
I before we leave I just want 

1223
01:09:20,390 --> 01:09:25,180
Garrett, once you plug your 
socials, GOB actual pretty much 

1224
01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:30,020
everywhere Twitter truth 
Instagram sub stack and then my 

1225
01:09:30,029 --> 01:09:33,260
sub stack is 
lastline.substack.com which 

1226
01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:36,200
there's been a little bit of an 
uptick recently. 

1227
01:09:36,210 --> 01:09:37,960
So I appreciate. 
I appreciate you all. 

1228
01:09:38,830 --> 01:09:41,450
Excellent. 
Ryan, I know you're doing about 

1229
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,840
like 18 different shows a day. 
I don't know when you sleep. 

1230
01:09:43,939 --> 01:09:47,550
Working folks on you. 
Ryan Matter Media on Twitter 

1231
01:09:47,680 --> 01:09:50,010
Ryan Madden News on Instagram. 
Ryan Matt on Rumble. 

1232
01:09:50,279 --> 01:09:52,569
Thanks. 
Steve hey thanks for running the

1233
01:09:52,580 --> 01:09:55,430
show today and dealing with the 
with the Garfunkel here folks. 

1234
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:59,690
You can find me on True Social 
at Real Underscores defriend on 

1235
01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:04,670
Twitter, Slash X at Real Steve 
Friend book is True Blue, My 

1236
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:07,150
journey from beat cop to 
suspended FBI whistleblower. 

1237
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,030
It's available on Amazon or if 
you go to any of the Twitter 

1238
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:11,950
through social it's pin to the 
top of my profile. 

1239
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:14,340
You can get your copy there and 
then. 

1240
01:10:14,420 --> 01:10:16,380
And have some pleasure reading 
as we enter the Christmas 

1241
01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:19,150
holidays. 
Everybody have a blessed and 

1242
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:22,050
safe weekend. 
Enjoy it and we'll see you back 

1243
01:10:22,060 --> 01:10:25,720
here next week. 
Thanks for listening to The Kyle

1244
01:10:25,730 --> 01:10:29,680
Serafin Show streamed live 
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1245
01:10:29,690 --> 01:10:31,940
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