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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serif. 
Well, hello my friends. 

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Welcome to the Kyle Serafin 
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Today is Thursday. 
It is May the 16th and we are 

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call it. 
And we are also rolling on 

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Facebook and YouTube. 
But you guys know where the live

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You're seeing it right there. 

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Where is it? 
There it is. 

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It's on this side here. 
We're over here on Rumble. 

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Join us. 
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those who have rated us. 
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Really happy that you guys are 
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I'm going to do a show that is 
very heavy today. 

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I already know it's heavy. 
I have kind of a pit in my 

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stomach knowing what we're going
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we're going to talk about. 
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for me, but also for all of you 
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and in law enforcement. 
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heavy topics and we are not 
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We talk about uncomfortable 
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So that's it. 
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have a sense that doesn't come 
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I don't think it comes from me. 
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somewhere else. 
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little bit of movement of the 
Holy Spirit. 

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That's my belief. 
I've had it said to others, you 

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know, others have told me as 
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You get these these thoughts 
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your own head, and we're going 
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back in the past for me that I 
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I think it's an interesting lens
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Before we do that, I want to say
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Mad hat jerky.com/kyle OK, let's
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Today we're going to be talking 
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Fortson. 
He's the young special 

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That's going to be really heavy.
We are in the middle of National

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Police week right now. 
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celebrates both the heroes and 
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We celebrate the people that put
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single day to keep American 
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Our local law enforcement is 
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thing that keeps your life the 
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have to worry about marauders. 
And chaos on the streets and in 

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your neighborhoods. 
But everyone who puts on a badge

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is going to take off that badge 
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Every single one of you is going
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wearing it. 
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wears a uniform is going to take
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member of the military, going to
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enforcement, going to be a 
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a fire department or an EMS 
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I have the. 
Weird sort of space where I have

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done all of those things. 
I was a served I served in the 

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the Air Force. 
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In my pocket I just pulled this 
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This is a coin from the command 
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of United States Special 
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Air Force AFSOC community. 
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but you will only die tired. 
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were marching across the country
honoring some airmen who died in

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the line of duty overseas and we
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batons that had their names on 
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We walked all the way from where
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Base outside of San Antonio. 
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country on foot and we went to 
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this young airman, Rodger 
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all the way across. 
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all the special operations 
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Navy Special warfare is 
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The Marine MARSOC guys are 
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Who? 
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Army Special Operations 
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are Green Berets. 
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Those of you who are SWIC 
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But there's no debating that the
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Operations have the. 
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more bad guys, more quickly than
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because they have J tax. 
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He was enlisted. 
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standing on a ramp tells us a 
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have the ability to do, to 
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evil people than anybody else. 
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think a an absolute miscarriage.
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supposed to do in this country. 
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that that, but that's where I'm 
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And I'm going to tell the story,
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today, strangely enough, we're 
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Rodger Fortson. 
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of Harry Dunn and. 
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little bit. 
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end of the beginning of the 
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If you guys haven't seen that 
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It was called Brooklyn After 
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It was a Saturday special. 
We did live with Dexter Taylor, 

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who's now sitting in Rikers 
Island, and he was sentenced to 

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10 years for doing something 
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And I think these stories all 
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So as I said, it's going to be 
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I'm going to start with 
something that I don't rare. 

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I rarely do this, but I think 
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Many of you have probably not 
seen this. 

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This is one of the great 
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education that I was entitled to
that my parents spent a lot of 

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money and sent me off to. 
This is a piece from a lecture 

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slide in entitled The Genre 
Wheel and it's a The Genre Wheel

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was developed by a PhD in 
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I believe her name is Doctor 
Louise Cowan and I always refer 

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to it in my brain as Cowan's 
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This may be totally. 
Foreign to you? 

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And it may not make sense until 
later, but I view a lot of the 

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world the way that I learned 
Cowan's Wheel when I was a 

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sophomore in high school. 
And I'll give credit to my 

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sophomore English teacher or 
literature teacher. 

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Her name was Linda Felice and 
she was outstanding and she was 

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excellent. 
This is the way that literature 

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can be defined and many of our 
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The reason that we love 
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stories are so important, is 
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what happened, literature tells 
us what happens. 

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It's an ongoing story of of the 
people, all right. 

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And what you're seeing on the 
wheel, on the wheel here in 

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front of you, if you're not 
watching at the top of it, is 

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what's called the lyric world. 
It's a section, It's a quadrant 

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down to the right as you move 
clockwise around it is the is 

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the section called tragedy. 
And at the bottom at the 6:00 

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position, it basically covers 
from 4:00 until 7:00 is what's 

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called comedy. 
And over at the 9:00 hour, as 

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the sort of the end of it goes, 
it's called the epic cycle. 

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And this cycle turns clockwise. 
It almost always every story 

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that you hear, every, every 
story, whether it be a a person 

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telling you their personal story
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you're reading or whether it's 
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including the Bible. 
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It progresses in a certain way. 
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From a long time ago when I was 
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toilet book readings like 
Chicken soup for the soul. 

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It's a comedy is tragedy plus 
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OK, fine, when when there is a 
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tragedy? 
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about that in a second. 
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if you add enough time, we can 
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There are there are dark jokes 
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especially for those of us 
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responder community that have 
worked at law enforcement, those

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of us in the military, we get 
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gallows humor. 
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Plus time. 
Equals comedy. 

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But it's also true in the way 
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progresses. 
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on in the lyric world. 
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and lamentation that moves into 
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the beginning of tragedy. 
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suffering, and then there's an 
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Often times that redemption 
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In a place of. 
Of comedy. 

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At least not in the way that we 
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It's not funny, ha ha. 
Comedy. 

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It's in a in a place where the 
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And the comedy world is defined 
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imagine this. 
It's almost like hell, purgatory

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and heaven. 
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comedy, purgatorial comedy and 
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It is the movement towards 
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kind of that just like in our 
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peak position. 
The peak position is the story 

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of the epic and that's the 
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ruling. 
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in the ruling status. 
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out of that into anticipation, 
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We are attempting to keep 
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permanent ruling and all 
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to tweak whatever it is, 
whatever mechanism they have to 

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keep ourself in this. 
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coward's wheel, I highly 
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Genre Wheel. 
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Read it and. 
Apply it to to the lens as you 

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read stories and we're going to 
start off with something that is

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almost comic and it's in its 
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It's not it's not sad, but it is
the the situation that our 

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country is currently facing with
an open border and a bunch of 

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chaos going on. 
I'm going to lighten this in as 

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we get to the heavy stuff. 
So this story comes to us from 

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the Marine Times. 
Two people are now in custody 

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after attempting to breach the 
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Quantico. 
I spent some time at Quantico as

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a trainee in the FBI. 
Any of you have gone through the

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Officer Basic School? 
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where they teach new lieutenants
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You have to use the, the, the 
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Anybody who knows that and has 
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Lieutenant knows. 
Exactly what I'm talking about. 

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You can't spell lost without the
Lt. 

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We need. 
We need our lieutenants. 

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These are young men. 
There's also the there's a fake 

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embassy there where they learn 
how to defend the embassies all 

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around the world. 
US embassies. 

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And these two guys decided to 
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Unknown needs unknown. 
Unknown mission set. 

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Two people drove up to the 
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Gate at the United States Marine
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Virginia, in a box. 
Truck, they were stopped by the 

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military sentries. 
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They were questioned. 
And it turns out that they claim

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that they work for a 
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With Amazon, we're seeing a lot 
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sort of Muslim, terroristic sort
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Amazon. 
I'm going to share with you a 

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quick little story. 
When I was working for for the 

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FBI on the surveillance team, 
one of the one of the actual 

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scariest guys that we ever dealt
with was someone who's been in 

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the United States for quite a 
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He done a bunch of weird stuff 
they had like an electronics 

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business but he had a job with 
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was getting ready to do a legit 
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basically shaved his head and he
shaved his beard and he got very

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clean and he started spending 
like hours and hours and sensory

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deprivation in a in a. 
Pool at the. 

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YMCA. 
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24/7 and they're looking for any
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going to go and get operational 
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So we're following him 
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And then then he got a job on 
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let his truck go, just let him 
do whatever he wanted while he 

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was on work duty for Amazon. 
One of the scariest things 

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that's out there is the access 
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Now with the current delivery 
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whether you're talking about 
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driving things to you, just 
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getting access to buildings 
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contractors and subcontractors 
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authorities, but they don't have
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were or not. 
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They claimed they were going to 
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located in the town of Quantico,
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of the base and for whatever 
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taken out. 
They had some basic under 

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undergoing of the vetting 
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those gates and then it turned 
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Were. 
Not allowed to be there, they. 

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Were not the people that 
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One of them was a Jordanian 
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The other person turned out to 
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How interesting, right? 
Just going to say we should 

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generally take a lot of personal
responsibility for our own 

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safety. 
We're in the middle of this 

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police. 
We're going to be talking about 

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a police story. 
But it's important for you to 

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know that the police are there 
to investigate wrongdoing after 

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the fact. 
It's very rare. 

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Most of you do not live on a 
military base. 

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There are some people probably 
that live on military bases that

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listen to this story. 
But I'm just telling you, 

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there's not an armed gate guard 
who has a a vehicle blocking 

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barrier in front of your 
neighborhood, most likely. 

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Which means that you're 
responsible for your safety. 

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You're responsible for you open 
the door to you are the one who 

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has to look around and decide 
whether or not what's going on 

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around you is safe and not safe.
Not all of us have the benefit 

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if either contractors or Marine 
Corps guards standing in front 

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and screening all the vehicles 
that come nearby. 

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And there are some weirdos out 
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That one that I went out there 
and followed this guy, like I 

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said, shaved his beard, was like
hanging out in the YMCA. 

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He ended up getting a search 
warrant served at his house. 

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They weren't able to arrest him.
Classic FBI incompetence, but 

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they didn't have the goods on 
him. 

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They did a search warrant. 
They let the guy go and the guy 

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started speeding, clawing close 
to 100 miles an hour on surface 

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streets. 
Me and my team pursued him. 

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He disappeared about a mile away
from my house. 

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He was able to get away from us 
because he had such a head 

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start. 
The team actually that was doing

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the search warrant let him go 
before they let our surveillance

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team know to get in place. 
Classic stupidity. 

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And as we follow this guy, he 
ended up having some 

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predetermined drop point at a 
Taco. 

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Bell about a mile away from 
where I lived. 

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He jumped out of his vehicle, 
jumped in the vehicle with 

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somebody else, claimed that he 
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When we found him later, he got 
in that vehicle, drove away, 

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disappeared for about 5 or 6 
days and was out making 

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preparations to leave the 
country. 

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Then he popped up at 5:00 AM on 
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My team and I picked him up. 
We were completely burned. 

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He was driving like 15 miles an 
hour and a 40 in front of a 

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bunch of military contractors 
that are all in a place called 

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Springfield, VA. 
It's just outside the Beltway if

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you guys are familiar with it. 
So we followed him around. 

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He went, he got to his Amazon 
job. 

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He we were told to let him go 
once again and he ditched his 

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Amazon truck. 
He got on a bus, took it down to

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Georgia, got on a bus from 
Georgia, went to Mexico City, 

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got on a bus in Mexico City, 
went down to Panama, tried to 

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catch a flight to Marrakech. 
He was trying to fly overseas 

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and join up with some of my ISIS
affiliates, I want to say. 

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And that flight actually flew 
over US areas. 

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It flewed over the tip of 
Florida and US airspace. 

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So he was actually kicked off 
for the no fly list. 

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The Panamanians deported him to 
Guatemala, the Guatemalans back 

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to Mexico. 
The Mexican sent him right back 

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up to Northern Virginia. 
To my knowledge, he's still 

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there. 
And we let him all go because he

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was, you know, assumed to be 
working for Amazon. 

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Like, that's OK. 
The idea that you have a 

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terrorist who has access to an 
enormous box truck and has 

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access to a lot of buildings 
with those credentials, he was a

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legit Amazon employee. 
I'm just telling you, you got to

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be careful. 
And this is one of a sort of a a

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walk. 
Up to it. 

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We're all responsible for our 
own safety in this world. 

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We're all responsible for our 
own personal accountability. 

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And if not, if you do not, hold 
on to that. 

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You will give. 
That responsibility to someone 

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else and they may not treat your
safety. 

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The way that you would and. 
We're going to get a little bit 

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to that in just a second here, 
too. 

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Let's get into the heavy stuff 
right now. 

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Experts say gun alone does not 
justify deadly force in the 

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fatal shooting of. 
Florida airmen. 

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His name is Rodger Forson. 
When I hear people ignoring this

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story, and a lot of people have,
and I've been sitting on it for 

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a little bit, I wanted to get a 
good sense of what happened and 

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what did not happen. 
So I've been, I've been 

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digesting this slowly. 
I have this, this video, and for

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whatever reason, it's the thing 
that rings like it's just over 

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and over in my head. 
I just feel like this is where I

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I keep thinking of this scene 
and it's it's not 100% 

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applicable, but the the 
sentiment is, so I'm going to 

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play it real quick here and then
we'll come right back. 

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I understand in death a member 
of Project Mayhem has a name. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
His name is Robert Paulson. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
His name is Robert Paulson. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
His name is Robert Paulson. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
His name is Robert Paulson. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
His name is Robert Paulson. 

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His name is Robert Paulson. 
Is it? 

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Powerful scene from from the 
movie Fight Club. 

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It's something that always kind 
of sits me. 

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A lot of these movies stay with 
me and they tell us, like I 

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said, they tell us the story of 
not what is happening but what 

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has happened, what happens. 
For human beings, there's power 

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in the name, and this kids name 
was Rodger Forson and he was a 

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Special Operations airman. 
And as far as I can tell, we're 

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going to play the body. 
Cam footage and we're going to 

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go through it. 
I don't think he did anything 

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wrong. 
He may have done things that are

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less advised, but that shouldn't
cost your life. 

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Not in America. 
This is America. 

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And when you swear allegiance to
to the Constitution of this 

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country as a law enforcement 
officer, listen, when you are a 

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member of the military, you're 
actually swearing allegiance to 

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a different part of the 
Constitution. 

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It is my take that when you put 
on the thin green line, you're 

452
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,880
saying more that you are going 
to lean towards the foreign 

453
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,360
enemy. 
That's the nature of what our 

454
00:21:08,360 --> 00:21:10,200
military does. 
It looks outward. 

455
00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,840
And when you do so as a 
sheriff's deputy or a law 

456
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,360
enforcement officer in the 
federal government state, you're

457
00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,200
actually facing more of the 
domestic enemy. 

458
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:21,760
They're both real enemies for 
you, no doubt, but as a member 

459
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,000
of the military we're facing. 
Externally, that's where we want

460
00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,200
to go. 
When you are a member of law 

461
00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,000
enforcement, your job is to 
leash yourself under the Bill of

462
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,040
Rights. 
You're not necessarily 

463
00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,320
protecting the Article 1 powers 
of Congress, of the Article 2 

464
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,480
powers of the executive, the 
Article 3 powers that's put up 

465
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,400
our judiciary. 
That's not your job as a law 

466
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,480
enforcement officer. 
Your job is to know that the 

467
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,280
government has limits and you 
are limited in your scope and 

468
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,640
your authorities. 
It's incredibly important. 

469
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,320
There's this kind of funny joke 
that I play every single day. 

470
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,040
You guys may not know that. 
It's kind of a tongue in cheek 

471
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:57,920
joke, but as I enter into this 
show, we talk about how I'm a 

472
00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,640
recovering FBI agent. 
Why is that? 

473
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,480
Because the FBI is not a place 
where you should go at this 

474
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:06,320
point, and so in a lot of vices.
People recover through 12 step 

475
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,160
programs. 
It's an ongoing joke between me 

476
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,720
and the Buddies. 
Civil liberties enthusiast. 

477
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,000
When I when I had my dad do the 
voice over for that, yes, that's

478
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,440
my dad's voice here. 
It's a family show. 

479
00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:20,400
When I had him do the voice 
over, he was like, what does 

480
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,840
that mean? 
Like that doesn't have a 

481
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,560
meaning. 
A civil liberties enthusiast is 

482
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,960
something we all should be. 
It's kind of a tongue and teek 

483
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,800
joke, because you can't be an 
enthusiast for something that is

484
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,920
a God giving liberty. 
We have to actually be willing 

485
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:33,160
to give our lives over our civil
liberties. 

486
00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,800
So enthusiast is kind of a play 
on how serious this is really 

487
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,440
supposed to be. 
It's supposed to be the most 

488
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,000
serious thing. 
Second Amendment defender. 

489
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,000
I lost my job at the FBI 
specifically because. 

490
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,880
I wouldn't give ground to a 
local law enforcement officer 

491
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,880
who did not have the authority 
to tell me to do something with 

492
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,520
a firearm. 
And he told me and I was safe. 

493
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,120
I had a holstered up weapon 
talking to another cop when I 

494
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,560
was an FBI agent and he said 
would you go somewhere else? 

495
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,160
And I said no, I won't. 
And that got me thrown out of 

496
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,120
the FBI officially, that was 
what they they called it. 

497
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,600
I'm wearing a duty belt. 
I'm wearing an FBI badge. 

498
00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,880
I look like he looks like in 
plainclothes. 

499
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,120
I'm out doing firearms training,
doing things like I would almost

500
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,920
guarantee that guy couldn't do. 
I'm practicing shooting at a 

501
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,600
silhouette from 50 yards out of 
a draw and under a second and a 

502
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,640
half. 
That was my part time for what I

503
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,200
wanted to do. 
I wanted to make sure that I 

504
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,480
want any gunfight with a bad 
guy, but the real key is it's 

505
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,800
got to be a bad guy. 
And he recognized that I have a 

506
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,840
holster and a. 
Duty belt. 

507
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,840
And I'm not a problem. 
They didn't recognize that with 

508
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,360
this guy, Rodger Fortson. 
He showed up at a door of his 

509
00:23:34,360 --> 00:23:37,880
own home, in his own home, and 
in America, when you swear 

510
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680
allegiance to the Constitution 
as a law enforcement officer, 

511
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:45,000
you're also swearing that you 
will protect and you will limit 

512
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480
yourself against all of those 
things. 

513
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,040
Unreasonable search and seizures
you will. 

514
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,520
You will engage and due process.
You won't let the process become

515
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:56,000
the punishment, as the 8th 
Amendment tells us that they 

516
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,440
can't do cruel and unusual 
punishment things that are. 

517
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,720
Outside of the of the chain and 
really importantly, you 

518
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,520
shouldn't be limiting things 
like speech, the practice of 

519
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:08,640
religion, the ability for us to 
assemble freely and petition our

520
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,560
government for the redress of 
grievances. 

521
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,720
Your job is to protect the civil
liberties of those that are not 

522
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,600
authorized to carry a gun and a 
badge and be the violent arm of 

523
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:25,360
the state. 
So what else does that include? 

524
00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,600
It includes the Second 
Amendment. 

525
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:31,120
We don't just have the ability 
to keep weapons in our 

526
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,440
possession. 
We have the ability to bear 

527
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,360
them, to bear the means to carry
them so as to use them. 

528
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,480
And this kid was doing that. 
He's a kid, he's 23 years old. 

529
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,760
He's a man. 
He was a young man. 

530
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:49,880
But having a gun alone does not 
justify deadly force And all the

531
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,320
cops that are out there on the 
social media apps that are 

532
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,480
coming at me and saying, hey, he
was carrying a gun, the guy had 

533
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:56,840
a reasonable fear. 
Did he, though? 

534
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,360
You could articulate it, but 
then you have to articulate what

535
00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:02,760
the hell you were doing in that 
place. 

536
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,960
In the first place. 
How dare you show up to somebody

537
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,240
else's house, you're on their 
turf, and then you're going to 

538
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,800
dictate the terms of their 
interaction. 

539
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:13,960
If man holding gun equals deadly
force to you, put down the badge

540
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000
and get out right now, 'cause 
you are a problem. 

541
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,560
That means you are poorly 
trained and you are a liability 

542
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:25,360
to the public. 
There's no two ways around it 

543
00:25:25,360 --> 00:25:28,160
for me. 
Just because you can articulate 

544
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,560
that this was a deadly force 
situation where you can justify 

545
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,680
it doesn't mean that you did it 
right. 

546
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,640
OK. 
Holding a firearm at a low 

547
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,080
position, He wasn't that low 
ready. 

548
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,440
He wasn't prepared to deploy 
that. 

549
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:42,920
He's handling it below the 
waist, is he not? 

550
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:44,320
We're going to show you the 
video. 

551
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,840
It's very, very quick that you 
see it. 

552
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:48,360
This kid has almost no time to 
respond to it. 

553
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,000
And that cop does things that I 
think are objectively bad. 

554
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,040
His not. 
I'm going to set you up for what

555
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,680
you're going to hear why I think
this is the case. 

556
00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,200
We're going to. 
First of all, we'll show you the

557
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,120
whole body Cam footage in a 
second, but let me prime your 

558
00:26:01,120 --> 00:26:03,600
mind to it. 
He bangs on the door. 

559
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,600
He pounds on the door like he's 
doing what I would call a knock 

560
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,040
and announce. 
A knock and announce is when 

561
00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:09,960
you're there to serve legal 
process, you either have a 

562
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,600
search warrant or an arrest 
warrant and you are looking to 

563
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,680
engage in lawful activity that 
is going to, that is going to 

564
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:19,080
infringe on somebody's otherwise
legal space because you have a 

565
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,960
court order from a Magistrate 
Judge authorizing you to use the

566
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,600
force of the government to go 
into that place. 

567
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:29,320
It it, it is a it is a command, 
not a request. 

568
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,120
This man was doing what I would 
also call in reality, not a 

569
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,600
knock, knock and announce. 
He was doing what we call a 

570
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,240
knock and talk, a field 
interview, a voluntary contact. 

571
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,520
And that means that this, this 
airman had zero legal 

572
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,280
requirement to engage with the 
cop. 

573
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,880
He didn't have to open the door,
not even a little bit. 

574
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,360
He didn't have to speak to him. 
He didn't have to engage with 

575
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,520
him. 
He could have looked through the

576
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,120
people and ignored it. 
He chose to answer it. 

577
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,520
And many people have said, you 
know, he's in the military, he's

578
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,840
part of a special operations 
wing. 

579
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,560
He's surrounded by guys like 
combat controllers and para 

580
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,800
rescue men, by tack pees, by 
people who know what what 

581
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,120
violence looks like and have to 
do it overseas. 

582
00:27:08,360 --> 00:27:11,080
He's assuming that we're on the 
same team. 

583
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,640
I know that because I stood in 
those shoes. 

584
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,640
When you look at law 
enforcement, you think Team 

585
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,080
America, one team, one fight. 
That is how you look at it when 

586
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,520
you're wearing the green 
uniform. 

587
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:25,560
Cops are my friends. 
I got their back. 

588
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,880
This is the kind of kid who I 
have to imagine. 

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,440
If he drove by and saw a highway
patrolman engaging in a 

590
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960
one-on-one fight on the side of 
the highway, he'd probably pull 

591
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,120
over and get involved because 
that's what you do because 

592
00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:37,400
that's what you think you signed
up for. 

593
00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,240
When you agree to have the same 
oath as those that are serving 

594
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:44,320
domestically, it's one oath with
two different focuses, and 

595
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,560
you're allowed to carry a gun in
your own home and open the door.

596
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,600
I assure you that if someone 
bangs on the door at my house, 

597
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,400
especially with an authoritative
knock, I'm coming there with a 

598
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:53,560
gun. 
You may not see it, but I'm 

599
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,120
going to have it now. 
He's young, he's 23 years old. 

600
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,160
He didn't serve in law 
enforcement the way that I got 

601
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,880
to see it. 
My guess is that if you're 

602
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,720
smart, you carry a gun, but you 
conceal it and you train to be 

603
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,000
able to take it from concealment
and engage if you need to. 

604
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,240
I always have a weapon on me. 
It's either out of sight or it's

605
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,040
under on my body where you can't
see it. 

606
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,480
But I'm always going to be 
armed. 

607
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,080
But that doesn't mean that I'm 
not going to open the door 

608
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,480
sometimes with a weapon in hand 
and I'm allowed to in my home. 

609
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,760
You're on my turf and you have 
no legal right to do anything 

610
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,680
there except knock and ask for 
voluntary compliance for an 

611
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,920
interview. 
We're going to watch this video.

612
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
What I did not show in this 
video because this is, this is a

613
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,080
body Cam clip, Obviously there's
some before it. 

614
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,960
I'm going to let you know the 
part before it showed him going 

615
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:44,120
into an office that seems to be 
the apartment office. 

616
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,880
There's a young man there who 
sounds very weak and he says I 

617
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,720
didn't make the call like this 
other lady does. 

618
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,200
The cop goes into the office, 
speaks, then he steps out, then 

619
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,840
he talks to the woman who you're
going to see him talking to, and

620
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,760
then he goes up and engages at 
this apartment solo. 

621
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,000
He says backups on the way. 
It's worth listening to all of 

622
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,880
this. 
Number one, there is often times

623
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,960
there certainly was in Virginia.
When I was working. 

624
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,000
Legal requirements for apartment
complexes and landlords to 

625
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,320
surrender information to law 
enforcement if they have an 

626
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,360
authorized law enforcement 
purpose about the tenant in any 

627
00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,760
given place. 
If I wanted to go in as an FBI 

628
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,160
agent showed my credentials, 
walked in and said, listen, I'm 

629
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:23,720
going to go knock on door 14 O1,
which is what they're talking 

630
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,480
about in this door. 
Do you have any information 

631
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:26,760
about what this guy does for a 
living? 

632
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,520
Do you have any information 
about the people that are on the

633
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
lease? 
Can you tell me who I can expect

634
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,800
behind that door? 
They are legally required in 

635
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:34,960
Virginia to give it. 
And there's a general reason 

636
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,240
that if you're going to make the
phone call and say, hey, we need

637
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,840
a cop to come out here, respond,
they'll probably do it if the 

638
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,720
privacy laws in the in the state
don't forbid them. 

639
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,400
It's their information. 
They can voluntarily give it. 

640
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,160
It's very easy to ask for it 
cost almost nothing. 

641
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:50,880
It's a few seconds of your time.
This was not an imminent call, 

642
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,560
by the way. 
This isn't like someone is 

643
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,400
screaming at the top of their 
lungs and we think someone's 

644
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:55,840
dying. 
This is there may be some kind 

645
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,080
of a fight going on and we'd 
like to stop this in the future 

646
00:29:58,160 --> 00:29:59,520
because they get at it all the 
time. 

647
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,560
He doesn't do that. 
This officer, this deputy does 

648
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,320
not go and ask for information 
who's on the lease. 

649
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,800
Do you know anything about it? 
Because you know what it would 

650
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,880
say on the lease. 
What is your source of income? 

651
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:13,560
What is your? 
Employment. 

652
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,640
And you would know that this guy
works at Herbert Field. 

653
00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,880
When you find that out and you 
would know that he's an airman. 

654
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,400
It doesn't mean that there's not
dirt bag airman. 

655
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,280
I know a bunch of them. 
Like a bunch of unlisted guys 

656
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,480
are garbage, right? 
But at least tells you what kind

657
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:26,760
of character you're dealing with
there. 

658
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,800
And if I think that I'm going to
approach somebody who has a a 

659
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:32,920
military uniform hanging in 
their closet that is off duty, 

660
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:35,080
it is my assumption that they at
least know how to handle 

661
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:37,920
firearms and they may own one. 
It's a likely assumption that 

662
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,760
they have one, and it wouldn't 
be weird to imagine that 

663
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,560
somebody who's seen death and 
destruction, this guy was given 

664
00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,840
some medals that show that he 
had done time in combat zones on

665
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:48,760
an AC130. 
He's seen what happens when you 

666
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,600
got to go and do violence 
against bad guys. 

667
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,320
Violence is, at least in his 
mind, It's a possibility, and 

668
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:55,760
answering the door with a gun is
not outside. 

669
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,200
The range of like acceptable per
views. 

670
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,160
OK, this is also the same agency
Bill T just pointed out in the 

671
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,120
chat. 
It's the exact same agency that 

672
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:07,640
had a guy do a combat role 
because a freaking ACORN fell on

673
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,640
his own Suburban or his own SUV 
where he had an unarmed 

674
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,840
handcuffed subject in and the 
guy turned in mag dumped on his 

675
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:19,680
own on his own vehicle and thank
God didn't hit the the subject 

676
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,480
in there because that would be 
an Eighth Amendment violation, 

677
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,800
would it not? 
It tells me that the people that

678
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:27,040
are working in this department 
are jumpy. 

679
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,120
If two out of your deputies have
shown up on recent Cam footage 

680
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920
that have gone immediately to 
gun when things did not warrant 

681
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,880
a gun that says that you are 
training somebody poorly. 

682
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:41,200
One is just, you know, maybe one
guy's experience two points to 

683
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,440
find a line in geometry. 
We can draw a line straight 

684
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,800
through it. 
And I got some real problems if 

685
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,280
your guy sees man with gun 
equals deadly force situation, 

686
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:51,880
right? 
Now. 

687
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,600
In fact, I will also share with 
you before we show the body Cam 

688
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,400
footage that there is a training
scenario at Quantico for FBI 

689
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,720
agents that specifically deals 
with this. 

690
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,080
You go into an interview 
situation and you walk into the 

691
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,280
house. 
This is like in Hogan's Alley, 

692
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,960
the famous Hogan's Alley, which 
is a bunch of like actual homes,

693
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,920
but instead of having regular 
drywalls, they have oriented 

694
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:12,480
Strand boards. 
You can shoot SIM rounds and 

695
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:13,760
stuff into them. 
It's like a shoot house. 

696
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:17,560
And when you go into that that 
house, there is someone sitting 

697
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,880
at the table and they've got a 
shotgun leaned against the wall 

698
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,120
right behind them in arm's 
reach. 

699
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,600
That's not a shoot situation. 
It doesn't matter if they had it

700
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,600
sitting on their lap. 
It's not a shoot situation. 

701
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,200
You might want to draw and give 
commands. 

702
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,800
And that's acceptable if that 
has to happen. 

703
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,880
But you got to have a reason to 
disarm somebody, especially in 

704
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,880
their own house, when you're a 
guest, and that's what's going 

705
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:38,800
on in this. 
Thing all right. 

706
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:40,200
That's enough set up for the 
body Cam. 

707
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:44,120
I want you to look about the way
that he stands and where he 

708
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:45,720
stands. 
Some of this is tactically 

709
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:46,760
sound. 
You don't want to stand in the 

710
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,000
door well when you don't know 
what's coming on the other side,

711
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,040
but you may want to stand in the
door well, when there's no 

712
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,480
expectation of violence on the 
other side, you're making a 

713
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,440
voluntary contact. 
You should expect that somebody 

714
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,400
was going to want to visually ID
you as law enforcement, because 

715
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,360
people say crazy things all the 
time. 

716
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,120
And if you have somebody that is
otherwise like disinclined to 

717
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,560
open the door, you can stand 
there. 

718
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,360
You can have them look at you 
and you can say, hey, you know, 

719
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,360
I'm with the Sheriff's 
Department. 

720
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:13,720
We had a report. 
Do you have a moment to come 

721
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,440
outside, talk with me, take them
out of the environment, go and 

722
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,600
have that chat? 
You're asking to make contact. 

723
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,720
There is no legal authority to 
make a demand on this kid, and 

724
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,760
he died for it. 
Here we go kind. 

725
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,640
Of sounded like it was getting 
out of. 

726
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:27,520
Hand OK, Which door? 
No. 

727
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,360
I'm not sure. 
Two weeks ago I was walking by 

728
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,920
like by their apartment 
basically on this side and I was

729
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:46,120
hearing someone yelled like 
stupid like right after, but I 

730
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,520
wasn't sure where it came from 
and I couldn't call. 

731
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,800
Like I didn't want to call. 
Which room is it? 

732
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:59,160
1401. 1401 OK. 
But the girl sounded scared. 

733
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,680
The one that called, she said 
she was like staying out of it. 

734
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,280
Sounds like it's getting really 
out of hand. 

735
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:08,239
So it's hit #4, OK, we stand out
there and directly the deputy is

736
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:48,040
coming 
3/12, 1:11, 312 and 111. 

737
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560
All right, where are we at right
now? 

738
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,000
We've got a guy that's taken an 
allegation. 

739
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,600
From a third party. 
This is a woman who took a 

740
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,080
report from someone that lives 
on the property and now he's 

741
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,240
taking it from this woman. 
So we have the game of telephone

742
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:45,160
being played. 
She's confirmed that it's 

743
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,120
apartment 14 O1 and his initial 
contact is going to go solo up 

744
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,440
to 14 O one on his own. 
She repeats it. 

745
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,320
The second time, she sounds a 
little less sure. 

746
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,920
The easy thing to do would have 
this person come up and point 

747
00:35:57,920 --> 00:35:59,760
you towards it. 
He tells her to stay in the 

748
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,280
parking lot and direct the other
deputy that way. 

749
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,720
We already know that there's a 
guy in the office that could do 

750
00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:06,960
that, and we also already know 
that he's got a radio and 

751
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,160
dispatch and they're dispatching
another officer. 

752
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,360
If you can't give clear 
directions, I'm on the 4th 

753
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240
floor, come up and go to 14 O1 
the same way that he just got 

754
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,200
it. 
Then what the hell are they 

755
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:16,680
doing? 
That's the purpose of having 

756
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,480
comms. 
We don't leave a third party to 

757
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,600
try to direct somebody unless 
there are so many bodies around 

758
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:23,800
that we're looking for a job for
them. 

759
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,400
I've done that as a paramedic. 
I've asked people to go and do 

760
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,920
something on my behalf when we 
didn't have enough hands. 

761
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,120
He's one handed. 
He needs her to ID the door. 

762
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,960
If you ask me, that's the right 
thing to do because fourteen O 1

763
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,520
is what she said, but she's not 
looking at it. 

764
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,560
And she could walk up there and 
be like, oh you know what I said

765
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,040
14 O one. 
But what I really meant was 

766
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,600
something else we don't like. 
As far as we know, this was the 

767
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:45,840
apartment that was supposed to 
be going. 

768
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,560
That he was supposed to go to. 
But he's out there now. 

769
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,400
He listens to the door. 
That's where we just stopped. 

770
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,640
He listened to the door. 
That's fine. 

771
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:57,040
And we don't hear anything on 
the body Cam. 

772
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,720
So nothing is loud enough that 
neighbors are going to likely be

773
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:01,800
hearing anything going on 
outside of that door. 

774
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,120
And if there's something going 
on inside of there, all you need

775
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,040
to know is is that he doesn't 
hear what's going on inside the 

776
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,600
apartment. 
That means that they probably 

777
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,880
don't hear very well going in. 
This kid apparently was on the 

778
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,920
FaceTime call with a girlfriend,
which might mean that he had 

779
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,200
earbuds in. 
It certainly means that he was 

780
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,520
distracted. 
Now we're going to listen to 

781
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,040
this guy do the knock and 
announce and as I said knock and

782
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,680
announce. 
Knock knock and talk. 

783
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:25,240
A knock and talk sounds like 
this. 

784
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,840
OK. 
Sheriff's Department got a 

785
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,200
minute? 
Can we talk to you? 

786
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600
I'm. 
Not going to announce this Bang 

787
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Bang Bang Bang bang Sheriff's. 
Department. 

788
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,400
Open the door. 
There's a major difference 

789
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,320
between those two The way that 
you choose the technique often 

790
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,040
times will choose the outcome. 
If you choose to kick down 

791
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,280
somebody's door at 0600, the way
the FBI likes to do, then you 

792
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,360
are going to confront somebody 
when they are groggy, sleepy, 

793
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,880
and they may choose to go for a 
firearm because it's still dark 

794
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,280
outside. 
And they're just getting their 

795
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,360
bearings. 
If you knock on the door or you 

796
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,240
grab them while they're getting 
gas, they're out in the world. 

797
00:37:57,240 --> 00:37:59,120
You've been able to view them, 
see them, you know they're 

798
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,400
awake. 
You know that they are at an 

799
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,600
appropriate state of awareness 
that they are in public. 

800
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:05,800
It's a big, big difference. 
When you engage somebody and the

801
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,080
way you engage someone, you 
often times will choose the 

802
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,360
outcome of that engagement. 
By choosing your technique, you 

803
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,080
choose the outcome. 
This guy chose a technique. 

804
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,200
He also ended up in an outcome. 
He started with aggression in a 

805
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,400
place that doesn't necessarily 
warrant it, and it ended in 

806
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,800
violence and death. 
All right, we're going to go 

807
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:49,520
back to the to the video here. 
All right, right there. 

808
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,560
I just want to stop and and and 
talk about this. 

809
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:54,400
You heard that soft knock, then 
he stepped out of the way. 

810
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,520
Imagine you hear a soft knock at
your door. 

811
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,560
Are you going to go look, This 
is when they claim, oh, you look

812
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,400
through the people. 
It like it, like he he looked 

813
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,720
through the people, saw nothing.
That's totally reasonable. 

814
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,480
He looks through the people and 
the cop is left. 

815
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,160
He doesn't want to linger in the
doorway because he's afraid of 

816
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,080
getting shot. 
It already tells you the mindset

817
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,120
that this guy has gone to, like 
a tactical mindset. 

818
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560
When you step out of the 
doorway, you're concerned about 

819
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,040
one thing, rounds coming through
the door. 

820
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:20,360
Why would you think that in this
case? 

821
00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,200
Why are you there by yourself, 
if that's a possibility for you?

822
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,960
All of this is bad. 
It's bad policing. 

823
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:30,160
And so just because he's going 
to probably end up being 

824
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,440
justified in shooting this kid 
and putting him down because he 

825
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,720
had a firearm and he's able to 
articulate an imminent danger of

826
00:39:36,720 --> 00:39:38,440
death or serious physical 
injury, which is the legal 

827
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,720
standard, generally speaking. 
And as far as I can tell, that's

828
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,920
the same in Florida. 
His authorized purpose for being

829
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:49,240
there is so low. 
He's doing a knock and talk and 

830
00:39:49,240 --> 00:39:50,800
he just walked away. 
From the people. 

831
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,080
Where the guy's going to be able
to see him, we're. 

832
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:53,880
Going to keep going with this 
now. 

833
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,160
You're going to see he changes 
tactics once his mindset 

834
00:39:56,160 --> 00:40:18,280
changes. 
Sheriff's Office Open the door. 

835
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,920
He's out of view when he yells 
Sheriff's Office, right. 

836
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,800
So now you've seen this all this
argument says, well you know he 

837
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,240
he did a a knock and then he 
announced himself as police. 

838
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,320
First of all he did a soft knock
then he got out of the way then 

839
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,280
he goes and does a hard knock 
call Sheriff's Office. 

840
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,160
The guy says something about 
police on the inside, like I 

841
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:38,960
think he said it was, you know, 
I don't know, maybe it's the 

842
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,960
police or something to that 
effect, but that guy announces 

843
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,280
it afterwards, right? 
Very, very different to announce

844
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:47,360
in a in a loud way when you're 
banging on the door like that. 

845
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,000
Now we're about to get really 
aggressive and this is going to 

846
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,040
be the end of the video, 
obviously. 

847
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:58,080
Sheriff's Office. 
Open the door step. 

848
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:06,160
Down. 
Of course it just cut there. 

849
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,360
I have no idea why that just cut
off. 

850
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,720
That's when he shoots the kid. 
Maybe it's because they don't 

851
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:11,000
want to show this. 
I know on YouTube they get 

852
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,920
really upset about you about 
showing a shooting. 

853
00:41:13,240 --> 00:41:16,120
He's standing there with a door,
with a gun below his waistband 

854
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,560
and a straight arm relaxed, with
a hand kind of hanging on the 

855
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,560
door. 
And the cop draws down very, 

856
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,080
very quickly, I might add, and 
puts him down and kills him 

857
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,840
right there. 
That's the story. 

858
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,640
It's bad tactics. 
It's predictable that somebody 

859
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:36,640
would have a bad outcome from 
this and it's not OK and it's 

860
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:40,360
not OK to cover this stuff. 
I'm not saying that this man 

861
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,400
should be put to death for what 
he did, but this, but this 

862
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:47,840
deputy, that's two it's very, 
very it's two in very, very 

863
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,640
close succession, bad instances 
of visibility from the same 

864
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,640
Sheriff's Department in Florida.
So what the hell is going on? 

865
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:56,080
He's been on, he's on 
administrative duty. 

866
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,840
They're going to investigate it.
The problem with this is, is 

867
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,880
that articulating the same way 
that I would have had to 

868
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,760
articulate it on duty, the 
deadly force policy for the DOJ 

869
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,760
is very similar for all. 
There's sometimes more 

870
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:09,200
restrictive, but as far as the 
most permissive deadly force 

871
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,280
policy that exists, the DOJ has 
it. 

872
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,480
As far as I'm aware, everybody 
I've ever talked to that was a 

873
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:16,040
cop said it. 
And our deadly force policy said

874
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,880
that law enforcement officers 
may use deadly force only when 

875
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,280
necessary, that is to say, when 
the subject of such force poses.

876
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,440
And here's the key part. 
An imminent danger. 

877
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,720
Of death or serious physical 
injury to the officer or another

878
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:29,720
person. 
That's it. 

879
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,520
OK, you have to pose an imminent
danger of death or serious 

880
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:35,120
physical injury to A to the 
officer. 

881
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:40,880
Or another person. 
Is a guy with a gun in his hand 

882
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,080
that's casually answering the 
door that doesn't know what's 

883
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,040
going on, that doesn't know why 
you're there? 

884
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,880
Is that guy in imminent danger? 
He might be by the time you open

885
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,120
the door and he's got a gun in 
his hand. 

886
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,000
But is he answering the door 
with a gun in his hand because 

887
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,360
you weren't standing in front of
people doing a knock and talk 

888
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,200
and acting like you were going 
to be doing a knock and announce

889
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,760
like you're serving process? 
This stuff is so bad. 

890
00:43:00,240 --> 00:43:01,480
It's so bad and this kid is 
dead. 

891
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Because of it, Yeah. 
Sheriff's Department. 

892
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:09,080
Open the door. 
It's ugly. 

893
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,840
It's all ugly. 
And like I said, if you come to 

894
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,560
my door and you act like this, 
you're going to probably not get

895
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:17,920
the door open. 
That's the right answer. 

896
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,720
It turns out folks don't answer 
the damn door. 

897
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,280
The cops are so scared because 
we have such a shitty existence 

898
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,360
in this country when it comes to
the way that people deal with 

899
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,320
cops, that this became an 
imminent danger for him in his 

900
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:31,880
mind. 
And yeah, he's probably going to

901
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,560
be justified. 
I'm sure his shoot was actually 

902
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:39,200
going to be justified, but his 
name is Rodger Forsen and he's 

903
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,120
dead because of it. 
It's ugly. 

904
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:42,800
I want to talk more about taking
some responsibility. 

905
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,400
I'm also going to let you guys 
know where he's going to break 

906
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,000
break for one second here and 
pivot over. 

907
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,160
I got my first chance to use my 
my pillow towels, the the bath 

908
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:50,920
sheets that I ordered up, 
they're actually really good. 

909
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,760
I wanted to not like them 
because I'm such a 

910
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,640
contrarianmypillow.com/kyle 
promo code. 

911
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,600
Kye we got 30% off with that. 
Using my own promo code, you 

912
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,120
guys can do the same. 
You get 30 to 50% off depending 

913
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:02,320
on what's going on. 
Sounds like they got like a 

914
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,480
really good deal going on in the
slippers if that's your world 

915
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:05,800
right now. 
I've got slippers at the moment,

916
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,720
so I'm not ordering up, but you 
can at mypillow.com. 

917
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Kyle Kyle will save you just 
like anybody else. 

918
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,520
It's. 
A short, short little. 

919
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,920
Promo code that gets you the 
same deal that anybody else 

920
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:18,760
would have. 
And I can now actually recommend

921
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,320
the towels. 
They're they're solid. 

922
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,720
They're an absolutely solid. 
They're just a terrycloth tall. 

923
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:24,840
There's nothing like magical 
about them, but they do a good 

924
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,360
job and they work well. 
And if you guys are so 

925
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,760
interested, check out 
mypillow.com/kyle. 

926
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:32,000
Get the same deal as anybody 
else will get you, but we. 

927
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:33,560
Do it here. 
You're supporting our show. 

928
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:36,400
I want to keep talking about 
this idea of responsibility. 

929
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,360
We outsource things to the cops 
like this. 

930
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:41,240
Right. 
We outsource the violence in the

931
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:43,640
state. 
I'm not comfortable with that. 

932
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:46,360
Not as a man, not as an 
American. 

933
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:48,760
At some point in time, you're 
going to take off that uniform. 

934
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:49,760
You're going to take off that 
badge. 

935
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,160
You're going to take off your 
military apparatus, right? 

936
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,800
You're not going to be there. 
You're going to be a. 

937
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,040
Retired member of the military 
or a former member of the 

938
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,280
military, you're going to be a 
former cop or law enforcement 

939
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,080
officer. 
At some point, you will be an 

940
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:05,080
American again. 
So you're always an American 

941
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:06,520
first. 
That's the reason why I don't 

942
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:08,160
work for the FBI right now, for 
whatever it's worth. 

943
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,480
I knew that right away. 
Husband and father, those are 

944
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,040
non negotiable American, not 
negotiable. 

945
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,600
I will always be those three 
things. 

946
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,040
It turns out what I do for a 
living is negotiable, and doing 

947
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,720
it for the FBI is something that
didn't have to last forever. 

948
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:25,480
That's why I wanted. 
To. 

949
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Hold on to American Civil 
Liberties. 

950
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,400
That's why I say that I'm a 
Second Amendment defender, 

951
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,800
because the Second Amendment is 
mine all the time. 

952
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:35,600
From the time that I'm born to 
the time that I die. 

953
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,800
It's a God-given, right? 
The privilege of serving with a 

954
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,280
uniform or a badge, that's 
negotiable. 

955
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,840
It can be taken away. 
And I'm going to say that in 

956
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:45,800
this light because we're going 
to tell a story that's really 

957
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,720
tough to watch. 
This is another really tough 

958
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,800
one. 
There's a young Indiana boy 

959
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,200
who's 10 years old, and he 
killed himself after suffering 

960
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:54,320
bullying. 
I don't know what suffering 

961
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,200
horrific bullying looks like, 
but here's my real. 

962
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,840
Problem. 
And I'm not trying to jump on 

963
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,920
these people because I think 
that they are in a bad, bad 

964
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:02,680
place. 
I want to use them as a as a 

965
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:04,440
springboard for us to learn a 
lesson. 

966
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,200
The parents say. 
They complained to their school 

967
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,640
20 times. 
They outsourced it. 

968
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,600
They sent it to someone else. 
This was their problem. 

969
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:16,400
This was their son. 
This is their responsibility. 

970
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,160
When you give your 
responsibilities up. 

971
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,680
When you surrender your 
responsibility to. 

972
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,520
Somebody else, and you expect 
them to take the actions that 

973
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,520
you would take. 
You are wrong. 

974
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,800
You are absolutely wrong, 
because nobody is going to 

975
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:32,800
protect your freedom and your 
liberties and your. 

976
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:38,080
Children, I'll say the way that 
you would You can't trust 

977
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,200
anybody else to do the job that 
you should do for yourself. 

978
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,560
And. 
A different way of saying that 

979
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:47,040
is. 
A different way of saying that 

980
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,440
is is. 
How? 

981
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,720
How on earth are? 
You going to take the most 

982
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,920
precious thing in the world that
you have and assume that 

983
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,640
somebody else is going to feel 
the same way about it. 

984
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,880
The government's job is to get 
the best outcome for the best 

985
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,400
number of people. 
That turns out to be getting 

986
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,360
everybody to and from school and
getting them checked through the

987
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,200
boxes. 
They are never going to care 

988
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,520
about your kids the way that you
do. 

989
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,720
It's my major problem. 
It's the reason this is another 

990
00:47:10,720 --> 00:47:13,040
argument for homeschooling. 
It turns out it's also an 

991
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:15,840
argument for dads to engage. 
Yesterday we talked about make 

992
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,880
men masculine again to embrace 
masculinity. 

993
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,520
Masculinity also involved 
sometimes getting the threat of 

994
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:27,720
violence across to a stranger. 
Because your tribe, your little 

995
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:30,720
family and your friends circle 
are yours and they are your 

996
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:32,480
responsibility. 
And if you're going to wait for 

997
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,520
the police to do it, or a school
to do it, or a government to do 

998
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:39,720
it, you're going to wait. 
Nobody is coming to save you. 

999
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,800
I know Mike Glover's in some hot
water right now, but the fact 

1000
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,520
that matter is no one's coming 
to save you. 

1001
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:46,920
He says that correctly in a lot 
of his videos. 

1002
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,240
You know, it's up to us. 
You be your own first responder 

1003
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,320
always. 
And when your child at 10 years 

1004
00:47:54,320 --> 00:47:55,840
old. 
And I'm going to show you this 

1005
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,200
video. 
This kid looks adorable. 

1006
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,360
He looks like the the nerdiest 
little 10 year old kid, exactly 

1007
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:03,040
like me. 
And some of my best buddies look

1008
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,000
like he's got glasses, which 
were way more fashionable than 

1009
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,440
my glasses were when I was that 
age. 

1010
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,760
I know that my folks watch this 
sometimes and they'll see I had 

1011
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,680
some really, really bad nerdy 
glasses, like some BCG, like 

1012
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,280
what they call birth control 
glasses, the ugly ones from the 

1013
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:18,800
military. 
I had those when I was like 10 

1014
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:20,240
or 11 years old, going into 
fifth grade. 

1015
00:48:20,240 --> 00:48:21,800
I remember it. 
I had the buck teeth. 

1016
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,240
I was a goofy looking, awkward 
kid at ten, 11-12 years old. 

1017
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,240
But I also had a very masculine 
father, and I don't think this 

1018
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:33,240
would have gone anywhere. 
I'm really sad for this man. 

1019
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,200
I'm really sad for him because 
he's going to beat himself up 

1020
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,640
over this forever. 
But we should learn from it. 

1021
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,560
There's no there's no horrible 
thing that we can't take a 

1022
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,160
lesson from. 
And this lesson is a couple of 

1023
00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:48,000
things #1 be your own 1st 
Responder. #2, You should home 

1024
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,200
school your kids. 
We need to be engaged with them.

1025
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:51,920
This is the saddest thing, but 
we're going to watch it anyway 

1026
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:53,920
because we need to. 
Kind of We need to be aware of 

1027
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,680
what's happening. 
How was it? 

1028
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:00,920
Good. 
He. 

1029
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,240
He was my little boy. 
He was my baby. 

1030
00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:06,840
He was the youngest one. 
Held him in my arms, isn't it? 

1031
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,600
I did. 
I did things that no father 

1032
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:18,320
should ever have to do at any 
time. 

1033
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,160
I close my eyes. 
It's all I could see. 

1034
00:49:20,240 --> 00:49:26,080
They were making fun of him for 
his glasses in in the beginning.

1035
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:28,600
They went on to make fun of his 
teeth. 

1036
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,720
He was beat up on the school and
on the school bus, and the the 

1037
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,920
kid broke his glasses and 
everything. 

1038
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,320
And I called the school and I'm 
like, what are you doing about 

1039
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,040
this? 
It keeps getting worse and worse

1040
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,720
and worse. 
It's not getting any better. 

1041
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:43,480
As a matter of fact, it's 
getting worse. 

1042
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:48,120
They do. 
They knew this was going on. 

1043
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,200
I. 
Always tell the kids because 

1044
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,200
Sammy and his sister went to bed
first because they were younger 

1045
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,280
and telling them they had to 
brush their teeth and get ready 

1046
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:03,320
for bed and having them him not 
being there to hug before bed. 

1047
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:11,600
It's awful. 
It's absolutely awful He And as 

1048
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,720
he said he didn't think that no 
father should have to do bury 

1049
00:50:13,720 --> 00:50:17,160
their child right. 
But the minute that it got 

1050
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,200
physical and they showed 
pictures in that little video 

1051
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,080
the bruising on his neck, the 
fact that they broke glasses 

1052
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:29,680
it's like where you at man it's 
a masculinity check father's 

1053
00:50:29,680 --> 00:50:33,160
your job is to protect, provide 
and lead your families. 

1054
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:35,280
We had Mark Houck on here 
before. 

1055
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
He's the guy that went and 
fought the DOJ face to face. 

1056
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,800
He went to a federal courtroom 
to affirm his right to protect 

1057
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,440
his child when some dirt bag 
outside of an abortion clinic 

1058
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:50,960
was being disgusting and profane
and evil, and he shoved the guy 

1059
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:53,120
to the ground gently. 
By the way, Mark Hot was a huge 

1060
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:54,600
guy. 
He was a college football 

1061
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:58,160
player, and he gently pushed a 
man to the ground who was being 

1062
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:00,040
wildly inappropriate to a child.
Why? 

1063
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:01,840
Because that's your child. 
Because you are setting an 

1064
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,520
example of what men look like to
your child. 

1065
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,920
And he did it judiciously, and 
he did it with restraint. 

1066
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:08,880
He did it with the proper amount
of force. 

1067
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,480
But he used. 
Force. 

1068
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,440
None the less, there are times 
when the only answer is force. 

1069
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,840
Why was this dad still letting a
kid ride a bus after this? 

1070
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:21,240
Because of his job? 
Because he was inconvenienced? 

1071
00:51:21,240 --> 00:51:24,200
Because he had to go to work. 
If you can't drop your job for 

1072
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,280
the reason that you really exist
on this planet, if you can't 

1073
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,280
walk away from it, and I'm 
talking to myself here too, as 

1074
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,800
much as anybody, I really am. 
If you can't look and say 

1075
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,440
there's a real problem that's 
going on in my home, one of my 

1076
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,560
people that I am charged with 
responsibility for, I'm charged 

1077
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,840
with protecting. 
God has entrusted me with this 

1078
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,560
person, and I've got to step up.
If you can't do that, God help 

1079
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:51,440
you pray for strength and then 
do the right thing. 

1080
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,160
This is what being a suspendable
is about. 

1081
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:55,400
It might cost you something. 
It might cost you a promotion. 

1082
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,960
It might cost you overtime pay. 
It might cost you something out 

1083
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,880
of your paycheck. 
It might cost you your 

1084
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,440
friendships. 
You might be the weirdo family 

1085
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,920
that has to take your I knew a 
guy. 

1086
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,160
He was a Green Beret. 
His son got himself into some 

1087
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,840
trouble, got into a really bad 
crowd. 

1088
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,040
He picked up his whole family, 
left his job and his life and he

1089
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,240
moved to Montana and put the kid
on a farm because that's what 

1090
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,080
needed to happen. 
That kid ended up serving with 

1091
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:17,400
me in the Air Force. 
He was a good kid. 

1092
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,840
Dad was a hard, hard man and 
left everything, sold 

1093
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:23,600
everything. 
They had pulled the kid out 

1094
00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:26,000
because his 16 year old kid was 
running around with a bad crowd 

1095
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:27,560
and he was going to end up in 
jail or dead. 

1096
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,360
So that's what he did. 
Sometimes you got to be that 

1097
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:32,040
guy. 
Men are supposed to make hard 

1098
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:37,720
decisions, Protect, provide. 
And lead leadership is the key 

1099
00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:39,360
there. 
Did that dad ever get on the bus

1100
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:41,760
and get in that kids face that 
was punching him and just said 

1101
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,440
the next person that hits my kid
is going to find themselves like

1102
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,280
on the other side of the engine 
block of this vehicle. 

1103
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,000
I'm going to throw you through 
this windshield. 

1104
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:52,480
Go tell your dad, that's what's 
going to happen if you touch 

1105
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,600
another child on this bus. 
If you bullies want to be 

1106
00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,560
bullies, you're going to deal 
with men you want to get in the 

1107
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:57,080
game of. 
Violence. 

1108
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:58,760
You're going to get into the 
step, you're going to step into 

1109
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:01,680
the arena where men operate and 
it will go badly for you. 

1110
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:04,800
Did that ever happen? 
Bus drivers are bus drivers, 

1111
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,320
man. 
They're not. 

1112
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,960
They're not supposed to be 
disciplinarians. 

1113
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,720
They don't have the ability to 
shepherd the flock. 

1114
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:10,600
That's happening before. 
My wife and I were just talking 

1115
00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:12,440
before we went live. 
There's all kinds of crazy shit 

1116
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,640
that happens on school buses. 
Drugs are dealt, kids are 

1117
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:19,200
bullied, sexual assaults happen.
Voluntary sexual contacts are 

1118
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,400
happening. 
Exploration, all this other 

1119
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,880
stuff. 
You can't outsource the raising 

1120
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,560
of your children to the 
government and expect good 

1121
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:25,920
results. 
You're going to get flipping 

1122
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,440
government results. 
You're going to get mediocrity 

1123
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,680
and your. 
Kid may be that sensitive, 

1124
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:35,280
gentle soul. 
With the goofy big glasses and 

1125
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:40,080
the goofy teeth, that just isn't
ready to handle it, and that's 

1126
00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,200
on you as a parent. 
It turns out we don't want to 

1127
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:45,240
kick these people when they're 
down. 

1128
00:53:45,240 --> 00:53:47,400
We want to. 
We want to bring them up, and we

1129
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,040
need to learn the lesson that 
they are showing us, which is 

1130
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,400
very important. 
You show them how to be men, 

1131
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,760
young men, how to be men by 
being a man and doing things 

1132
00:53:56,760 --> 00:54:01,440
that are difficult. 
All right, You want to talk 

1133
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,800
about men who are foolish and 
cry in public and act stupid? 

1134
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,040
Here's one, Harry Dunn. 
What is done is done. 

1135
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,160
Ladies and gentlemen, this is a 
little bit of kind of like our 

1136
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,840
our movement towards we're we're
we're moving in the comic wheel.

1137
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,760
Maybe this is the the 
purgatorial Harry Dunn, former 

1138
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:19,400
police officer who defended the 
Capitol. 

1139
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,560
Isn't that some bullshit? 
On January 6th, defeated in the 

1140
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:26,760
Maryland House primary, this guy
raised well over $4 million. 

1141
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,240
Our buddy Steve Baker has been 
covering this at the Blaze. 

1142
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:32,480
If you're not checking it out, 
he he raised something like $4.5

1143
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:36,280
million. 
His his FEC reporting showed 3.8

1144
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,920
million in change that he spent 
on campaign. 

1145
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,000
He's wearing AT shirt right now.
If you're not seeing it says 

1146
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,280
Insurrection, a violent uprising
against an authority or 

1147
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,760
government, January 6th, 2021 is
the second thing. 

1148
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,320
He had his. 
Own T-shirts made showing that 

1149
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:50,920
he was the hero of the 
insurrection. 

1150
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,480
Most of the things he said on 
that day or about that day were 

1151
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:59,000
lies. 
He was speaking falsely and he 

1152
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:03,400
just lost to a state senator 
named Sarah Efreth who had a 

1153
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
powerful pro Israel group. 
Oh, isn't that interesting? 

1154
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,480
A little smear from NBC there. 
Like it matters. 

1155
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,320
They won the primary and heavily
Democratic third district. 

1156
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,320
OK, fine. 
Well, at least we know that 

1157
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,000
there is a little bit of justice
that Harry Dunn is done, at 

1158
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,960
least in this particular run. 
Doesn't mean he won't run for 

1159
00:55:17,960 --> 00:55:21,640
something else, but he didn't 
make it in this time around, and

1160
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,280
we were almost sure of it. 
You guys remember we just 

1161
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:25,760
covered his that the groups that
were endorsing him, he was 

1162
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,640
endorsed by a flippin veterans 
group when he's not a veteran 

1163
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:31,080
and there are veterans that were
in the race, pretty wild. 

1164
00:55:31,080 --> 00:55:33,840
It shows you a little bit of the
injustice of what the Democrat 

1165
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,360
Party is willing to get behind. 
And yes, I know they just found 

1166
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:40,400
some cocaine in the offices of 
the Capitol Police this week. 

1167
00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:42,640
The Capitol Police are not 
police, for whatever it's worth.

1168
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,200
They may get to participate in 
Police Week. 

1169
00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:46,240
They may have the word police in
their title. 

1170
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:47,480
But the Capitol Police are not 
police. 

1171
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:49,160
They're glorified federal 
security guards. 

1172
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,480
They get a very good pension. 
They have almost no 

1173
00:55:51,480 --> 00:55:54,600
investigative capabilities and 
all the things to expand them. 

1174
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:58,920
The expansion that you have of 
of their authorities and going 

1175
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:02,040
places to like protect members 
of the of the US Congress. 

1176
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,960
Very strange. 
Those are executive authorities 

1177
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,840
that they are trying to to 
engage in and it is I think a 

1178
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,600
very strong constitutional 
problem. 

1179
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,880
You can have a security guard, 
but they don't have, they don't 

1180
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,440
have executive authority to 
engage in law enforcement 

1181
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:18,480
because they are not part of the
executive branch of the 

1182
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:19,680
government. 
They fall underneath the 

1183
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,720
legislative branch. 
It's very weird. 

1184
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,320
So I call them the National Mall
cops, you guys know, I call them

1185
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:25,360
that. 
I don't have a lot of respect 

1186
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:27,640
for, not that the individual 
people can't be great people, 

1187
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,840
but the institution, the agency 
of Capitol Police, was the 

1188
00:56:30,840 --> 00:56:32,960
bottom of the federal barrel 
when it came down to it. 

1189
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,240
And it's mostly because they 
were not an executive agentry. 

1190
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:38,320
It's worth knowing they are not 
in the business of law 

1191
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:39,800
enforcement. 
Even with the word Capitol 

1192
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160
Police in front of them. 
There's all kinds of people that

1193
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,200
hold special police status in 
Washington, DC, and they're all 

1194
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,640
security guards. 
That's all they are. 

1195
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,280
I'm not mad at them. 
Like I said, I don't. 

1196
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,320
I don't. 
I don't hold anybody in lower 

1197
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,680
regard because of the job they 
have, but I don't want to add 

1198
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,240
them into the category of people
that like you don't support the 

1199
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,280
thin blue line. 
Harry Dunn was not that, and 

1200
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,840
apparently he never was able to 
progress beyond the length, the 

1201
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,520
rank of private first class 
within that organization. 

1202
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,920
Which is to say that he was an 
unpromotable, intellectually 

1203
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:11,520
maxed out mid wit at best, and 
probably a dim wit if you ever 

1204
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,600
heard him speak. 
He barely is able to articulate 

1205
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,280
anything of value. 
And if you've ever seen his 

1206
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,760
writing, apparently he's 
basically illiterate, had to go 

1207
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,320
to the press pool in order to 
write things he was unauthorized

1208
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,800
to write on duty. 
Follow Steve Bakers reporting 

1209
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,960
over at The Blaze. 
He's got his own tab. 

1210
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,200
It's theblaze.com/ithink. 
I think Truth is his is his 

1211
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:30,640
title there. 
So you can go to 

1212
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,000
blazeortheblaze.com/truth and 
read all the reporting. 

1213
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,120
There's plenty on Harry Dunn 
there and we're going to finish 

1214
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,320
up with something that is both 
dark and very important. 

1215
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,440
Like I said, we're going to talk
about Dexter Taylor and so here 

1216
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,200
it is. 
Actually, you know what? 

1217
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:45,680
Before we do, let me just say if
you guys want to support our our

1218
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,960
guys, especially gear to Boyle, 
he just got out of the hospital.

1219
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,880
He did a long fast that revealed
some medical issues he's 

1220
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,400
recovering from that He's going 
to be OK. 

1221
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,600
I'm wearing a shirt right now. 
This is the black version, the 

1222
00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,560
night OPS version of the exact 
same shirt that you see on the 

1223
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,000
screen, which is the last line 
sub stack logo. 

1224
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,440
It is the AR15 rifle with a 
plume coming out of it. 

1225
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:08,480
It is a idea and our memory that
our civil liberties are not to 

1226
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,040
be trifled with, that there is a
pen that is mightier than the 

1227
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,400
sword and then a sword sometimes
is necessary and will be 

1228
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,680
mightier than the pen. 
It depends on the situation. 

1229
00:58:18,880 --> 00:58:20,520
The 1st Amendment is first for a
reason. 

1230
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,400
It is the weapon of mass 
destruction and mass 

1231
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:25,480
information, but sometimes you 
got to do it on a point level. 

1232
00:58:26,960 --> 00:58:28,960
It's worth noting you guys can 
support that at the dash 

1233
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,720
dispendables.com The dash 
dispendables.com is the websites

1234
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,440
the merch store 100% benefits. 
The O'boyle family sweatshop. 

1235
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,000
The dash dispendables.com. 
The promo code Kyle will save 

1236
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:38,600
you 10%. 
We just have a promo code to 

1237
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,360
track who's going there. 
Promo code Kyle. 

1238
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,960
Kyle 10% off doing that. 
Let's talk about my friend 

1239
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,120
Dexter Taylor. 
I don't make Internet friends 

1240
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:47,160
folks. 
I don't know if you guys know 

1241
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:48,480
this, but I don't have Internet 
friends. 

1242
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:51,960
Generally speaking, it takes a 
lot of conversations and usually

1243
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,560
it has to be in person, but I've
got a couple of Internet 

1244
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:56,160
friends. 
Tracy Beans is one of my 

1245
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:58,520
Internet friends. 
We've never met in public, but 

1246
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,880
we talk all the time. 
Alfa Luna, Alfredo Luna is one 

1247
00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:04,440
of my Internet friends and 
Dexter Taylor is one of my 

1248
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,880
Internet friends, a real friend,
and this is his story. 

1249
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,480
This is coming from the sub 
stack from Jeff Charles. 

1250
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:11,960
If you guys want to go check 
that out, it's called 

1251
00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,120
libertyorelse.com. 
Dexter Taylor Sentencing 

1252
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:16,440
statement. 
As many of you guys know, he was

1253
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:19,480
convicted and he was just 
sentenced to 10 years. 

1254
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,760
He's sitting in Rikers. 
And I want to read the entirety 

1255
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,120
of his statement. 
We're going to go a little bit 

1256
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:25,480
long. 
We're going to read the entirety

1257
00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:28,320
of his statement because it is. 
Very poignant at this moment, 

1258
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Dexter Taylor doing time. 
For. 

1259
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:34,080
For exercising his Second 
Amendment right. 

1260
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:36,480
Like I said, we're telling the 
story of three black men here, 

1261
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:38,440
one who's a government 
sycophant. 

1262
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:40,080
He didn't get anything out of 
it. 

1263
00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:42,480
Thank God he's got lots of money
and he got all kinds of 

1264
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:44,360
television. 
But his 15 minutes of fame look 

1265
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,320
like it might be over. 
Dexter Taylor's not getting 

1266
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,640
enough coverage, and if we can 
share his story, I want to, he 

1267
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,360
said the following at his 
sentencing. 

1268
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,240
Thank you, Your Honor. 
I appreciate it. 

1269
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:58,080
Friends, family and allies and 
foundationless and honored 

1270
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:01,280
adversaries. 
Today we enter the next phase in

1271
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,400
the fight to protect our 
God-given rights from a 

1272
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:06,920
government that wishes to take 
them from us and grant us mere 

1273
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,640
privileges in return to quote 
another patriot from another 

1274
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,720
place in time. 
This is not the end. 

1275
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,000
This is not even the. 
Beginning of the end. 

1276
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:18,400
This is perhaps? 
The end of the beginning. 

1277
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,240
And so as we enter this new 
phase, there should be no 

1278
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:24,200
question in the mind of any 
patriotic American as to why we 

1279
01:00:24,200 --> 01:00:27,440
fight. 
After all, only slaves lack the 

1280
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,400
right to arm in self-defense, 
and we are no slaves but free 

1281
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,840
citizens of a great Republic. 
And we contain multitudes of 

1282
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,200
each of us from builder, a 
healer, a teacher, a statesman, 

1283
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,400
a soldier, a judge, and an 
attorney at law, a Sergeant at 

1284
01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:44,600
arms, and an image of God. 
So we know why we fight. 

1285
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,040
The question before us is how we
must fight. 

1286
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:52,040
What kind of discipline must we 
bring into this battle, and what

1287
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,760
spirit must we show our friends 
and adversaries alike? 

1288
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,520
And by way of answering, we 
refer to our core doctrines. 

1289
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:04,000
The foundationless manifesto 
calls us to listen closely and 

1290
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:08,240
to speak clearly, to deny the 
self, at the same time to defend

1291
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:11,640
the self, to respect tradition, 
and also to cultivate the 

1292
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:13,720
future. 
In short, as Foundationless, we 

1293
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:17,080
are called to embrace 
disciplines what seem to 

1294
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,400
contradict each other, but 
nonetheless to embrace them with

1295
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,960
all of our strength. 
This is in our current fight 

1296
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,440
because this system is as 
dysfunctional as it is often 

1297
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:31,400
unjust. 
It is nonetheless our system. 

1298
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,760
It is a feature, not a bug, of 
our American civilization. 

1299
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:39,240
Like any other structure built 
from man's crocked timber, it is

1300
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,080
not perfect. 
Judges and attorneys and trial 

1301
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,880
courts and juries in the light 
of day are not perfect, and 

1302
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,560
judges and attorneys and trial 
courts and juries in the light 

1303
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:52,120
of day are merely what we have 
instead of the blood feud and 

1304
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,680
the vendetta and the dagger in 
the night. 

1305
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,960
Knowing this, we give challenge 
even as we give thanks. 

1306
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,760
Knowing this, we prepare 
ourselves for battle in the 

1307
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,360
spirit of profound 
dissatisfaction and profound 

1308
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:09,320
gratitude in equal measure. 
That is the apparent 

1309
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,160
contradiction that we face as we
continue to struggle for the 

1310
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,640
civil rights of our fellow New 
Yorkers and our fellow 

1311
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:17,480
Americans. 
On one hand, to hate this 

1312
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,280
system, our system, enough to 
fight it, but on the other hand,

1313
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:23,920
to love it enough, love it 
enough to think that it is worth

1314
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,280
fighting for. 
Nothing else will do for us but 

1315
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,960
a profoundly Christian habit of 
defeating A contradiction by 

1316
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,920
fully embracing both sides of 
it. 

1317
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,320
And so when our adversaries look
for us. 

1318
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,760
Let them find us. 
And, to quote a Christian 

1319
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,000
friend, a bee's shiniest at a 
Wasp's hostility. 

1320
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:44,760
Let us show them a soldier's 
intensity and a diplomat's calm.

1321
01:02:45,080 --> 01:02:57,410
Let us let our adversaries find 
us in stern battle, patient in 

1322
01:02:57,410 --> 01:03:00,210
defeat, and gracious in our 
ultimate victory, which is 

1323
01:03:00,210 --> 01:03:03,610
certain. 
In short, when our adversaries 

1324
01:03:03,610 --> 01:03:08,490
look for us, let them find 
reasonable men and irrational 

1325
01:03:08,490 --> 01:03:11,960
patriots. 
When I was a boy, my grandfather

1326
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,760
told me that fire is a great 
servant but a terrible master. 

1327
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:18,720
And so it is with the 
government, and to that extent 

1328
01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:21,120
with our own government's 
attempt to be our master. 

1329
01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,800
We must oppose it. 
We must fight to the utmost 

1330
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:27,760
limits of our strength. 
But in that fight, our spirit 

1331
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,560
must be one of restoration and 
not destruction. 

1332
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,680
We must confront the enemy as a 
firefighter confronts his enemy,

1333
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,120
and for the same reasons that 
structure itself may yet be 

1334
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,720
saved. 
God bless you, may all of you. 

1335
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,520
God bless, May God bless the 
United States of America. 

1336
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:46,480
I thank you, your honor, and 
quote, that is the quote that is

1337
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:51,480
the statement that Dexter Taylor
gave just before going to prison

1338
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,920
for 10 years for building guns 
that no one ever saw that hid. 

1339
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:57,960
In his his apartment in New 
York. 

1340
01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,240
We're seeing an interesting time
right now where Donald Trump is 

1341
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,840
exposing the legal system for 
what it is in New York. 

1342
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:08,000
The fact that we have a lot of 
injustice in our justice system,

1343
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:13,600
it's not surprising, folks. 
It's not surprising that men are

1344
01:04:13,600 --> 01:04:16,400
facing hostility simply for 
being those who embrace the 

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ability to speak, the ability to
bear arms, the ability to to 

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engage in their religious, their
religious freedoms, to assemble 

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and to petition their government
for the redress of grievances. 

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Dexter was petitioning for 
redress of grievances through 

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his case. 
He was doing something that many

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people do not do. 
He was doing the appeals. 

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Process. 
While they were arguing the 

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facts, he was arguing the law 
and I hope that he is justified.

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If you guys want to support his 
Gibbs and go you can find it. 

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It's Dexter Taylor's Gibbs and 
go legal fund. 

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I will actually throw that in 
the show descriptions on update 

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it will go out in the audio show
so you'll find it there. 

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Dexter is a very eloquent person
and he's a great messenger for 

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this. 
His story is quite important. 

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It's that we cannot let the 
government be the master. 

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The the government is meant to 
serve us. 

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And if we think that that we 
serve the government, then you 

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end up being killed in your door
for rights that you possess and 

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the government does not grant 
you but simply is restricted 

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from infringing upon. 
That's what I have to say about 

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today. 
I'm going to give you guys a 

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five star review as always, and 
we will shut it all down here. 

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This is from Rad Polly. 
I pulled this from yesterday's 

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comments. 
I do read a lot of the comments 

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01:05:22,400 --> 01:05:25,080
folks says I watch a lot of 
podcasts and for me there's no 

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01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,800
more thought provoking podcast 
than the Kyle Serafin Show. 

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01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,440
It's obvious that God has 
certainly imbued you with a lot 

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of good spiritual wisdom. 
I don't think that it's wisdom 

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01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,080
Mr. Rad Polly or Miss Rad Polly.
I don't know. 

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It's not wisdom per SE. 
I think it's inspired, but I 

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don't think it comes from me and
I don't think it resides in me. 

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So sometimes it just comes from 
somewhere else. 

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I just wanted to share all these
thoughts. 

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Guys. 
If you disagree with my takes, 

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I'm happy to experience them. 
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01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:52,520
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comments, sarcastic remarks at 
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01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,520
Feel free to do so. 
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Make sure you subscribe to our 

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If you want to financially 

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So by hitting the follow button 
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01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,360
It's 5 bucks a month that goes 
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01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,200
Rumble takes not a penny of it. 
It's pretty awesome that they do

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If you guys want to support us 

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It's just like going to locals 

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01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:25,760
Think there's there's over 100 
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01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:27,080
So really awesome. 
And we really. 

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Appreciate that. 
We're going to shut it down for 

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the day. 
I look forward to seeing you 

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guys tomorrow for a friendly 
Friday with my friend Steve. 

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Friend, until that time, God 
bless you, be masculine men go 

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01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,280
out there and lead and protect. 
And provide. 

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01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,480
Thanks for listening to the Kyle
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Serafin. 

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