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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistle blower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth because this
program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Seraphin. 
Hello, my friends. 

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Welcome to the Kyle Seraphin 
Show. 

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Today is Friday. 
It is September the 12th. 

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And the breaking news that came 
out just within the last hour is

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Donald Trump being on Fox News 
saying that we've got him 

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indicating that they have 
captured the the shooter or they

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believe that they captured the 
shooter who was involved in the 

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assassination of Charlie Kirk. 
So that's good news. 

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He was a little bit hesitant. 
We're going to play you some of 

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the clips. 
You guys can make up your own 

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mind. 
Some of the things that came out

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of that don't actually assure me
as much as I would hope. 

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We're going to still talk about 
some of the things that were a 

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little bit too close to the best
for me yesterday, and we're 

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going to go into that. 
And I brought on someone who 

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very quickly is going to be 
joining us, our friend George 

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Hill. 
He's a supervisory special, 

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sorry, supervisory intelligence 
analyst, retired from the FBI. 

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He was involved integrally in 
the Boston Marathon bombing, 

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which was also a very large high
profile national case. 

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I'm interested in kind of 
comparing and contrasting his 

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experiences with that and what 
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I what I don't see is a huge 
amount of confidence 

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demonstrated by the FBI. 
You guys are going to hear that 

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in the Fox clip very shortly. 
But what you're going to hear is

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that it sounds like the guy 
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Now, whether that was because of
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want to do is, is address the 
online conspiracy possibilities 

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because there's an awful lot of 
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it was Israel, it was a 
professional assassin, it was 

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all these things. 
None of those things have to be 

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true. 
And it turns out, just like we 

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talked about earlier this week, 
when you are in a post trust 

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society where we no longer 
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people say in the mainstream 
media and in the various 

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institutions that we used to be 
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to whatever their default 
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And usually that is just 
whatever it is that I feel, 

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don't confuse me with the facts.
I already have an opinion. 

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We're going to get into that. 
We're going to get into a 

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concept called assassination 
culture, which has been studied 

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and was actually being 
introduced earlier on in this 

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year. 
I had an FBI agent reach out to 

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me and share just an article 
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So we're going to talk about 
assassination culture and where 

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it resides and what part of the 
political aisle it tends to sit 

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on. 
A couple of other things out 

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there. 
And then I also want to do sort 

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of a survey about cyber threats.
And this is something that we 

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talk about regularly because we 
have an advertiser that does it.

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And what I wanted to do is kind 
of gather a couple of different 

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stories over the last 6-9 months
and, and bring on the Co founder

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of Patriot Protect to talk about
what those look like, why 

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they're a vulnerability. 
There's a million threats that 

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we need to worry about. 
I literally just had my cousin 

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reach out to me yesterday and 
said that he's got a a client 

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who may be facing a multi 
$1,000,000 scam that happened 

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online. 
So I wanted to talk about that 

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because it's very salient to me 
at this exact moment. 

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So we'll do all those things and
more in just a second. 

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It's patriot-protect.com/kyle 
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You'll be hearing from Skip 
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founders in a little bit. 
The stuff we talk about is going

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to be immediately obvious to you
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inexpensive it is for hackers 
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your information. 
It's it's actually unsettling 

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how easy it is and how much it, 
how little it costs to 

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compromise. 
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your net worth and your 
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include things like the AT&T 
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to talk about an update on that.
It also could be your bank 

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immediately lost to the Chinese 
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account or goes after all of 
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patriot-protect.com slash Kyle. 
Again, patriot-protect.com/kyle,

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there's a link in the show 
description. 

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We're going to get into a bunch 
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of a wild Friday. 
It's been an intense week, 

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folks. 
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And as we do an intense week, 
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the burden. 
It's helpful to have another set

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of eyes on the situation. 
So I'm going to bring on my 

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friend and former FBI senior. 
Was it senior or supervisory 

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intelligence analyst? 
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Analyst and this is I I actually
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upward movement was quickly 
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This is George Hill, folks. 
He is a suspendable, he's one of

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our friends. 
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Congress that many of you may 
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without being asked about it. 
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the Boston Marathon bombing. 
So, George, you, you saw, I know

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you've been following the news 
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What did you see in this sort of
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on the onset? 
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impressions as a guy who's done 
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overseas that maybe we can't 
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So are you asking for initial 
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shooting or the FBI and law 
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And where do you want me to 
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Yeah. 
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immediately assume that this had
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operating on behalf of a foreign
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No, you got to start from zero. 
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eliminate that from the very 
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And it's hard. 
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for work. 
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during your career path, but you
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and look at the facts and the 
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And then your focus should be is
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as necessary in order to Hoover 
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information that may be relevant
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the wheat from the chaff. 
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assumptions whatsoever. 
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the people's assumptions. 
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for that zip line. 
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shooter, you know, So I, I just 
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skeptical person. 
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me to dismiss those kinds of of 
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George, this is supposedly the 
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this was actually the tool that 
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it's in a brand new box. 
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collection in the field by law 
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Does that make any sense to you 
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collection box for a for a 
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So I had a very good optic on 
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Boylston Street for almost an 
entire week and set the standard

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for evidence collection over a 
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right after the marathon 
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And so boy, if that was a 
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probably do a little bit better 
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that can be disassembled and 
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platform. 
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barrel from a bolt action. 
As the owner of multiple bolt 

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action rifles, that's just not 
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Yeah, So here's here's what I 
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First of all, I might play in 
just a second here the the 

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update from Donald Trump, but 
this is the thing that I saw 

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people dissecting. 
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Savage going out there and 
screaming about this, that we're

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And, and it doesn't always have 
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Then had a rifle or brought left
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Then he posted up at a 200 yard 
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allegedly. 
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plan and, and escaped off the 
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story off the ground and he 
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clear he's got like a long 
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I can. 
It's a, it's a synthetic stock 

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bolt action rifle, right-handed 
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It has two scope rings, which is
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Like a A2 to 12 or a four to 12?
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12 or 3 to 9. 
OK, it's got a, it's got a what 

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we call a bell at the front, 
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objective lens is. 
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scope ring at the front is all 
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the bell where it begins to 
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And if you look at the rear 
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the way up against the turret, 
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windage and your elevation and 
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And that's not where you would 
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that the the eyepiece is farther
back than would make sense. 

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having not torqued it down 
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static. 
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happens all the time for your 
average kind of recreational 

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user. 
If you were to jump from a one 

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story building and have 10/10/12
feet worth of force going 

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downward on it, that scope would
continue to travel downward and 

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it would Max out at the turret 
and it would Max out at the bell

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just like that if it made ground
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What do you think? 
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traversing from the roof to the 
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At least I didn't. 
Maybe somebody else did it. 

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After the fact, it looked like 
it was kind of lost in the 

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shadows. 
And so we'll play that video. 

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It's not a great clip of it, but
it does look like the guy has 

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something in one of his hands. 
I think it's his left hand when 

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he goes downward and he's 
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front of the barrel, like around
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And so it does appear that there
is something longish in his 

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hands out there. 
So you can imagine you stash a 

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rifle up there maybe the day 
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You put it in a towel that's 
dark colored. 

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You put it into a shadow that's 
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Nobody notices it. 
That would be easy for a couple 

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days if he did his his ingress, 
walked in, climbed up there, 

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laid down, took the shot and 
then did his his evacuation plan

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and jumped off A1 story managed 
to hit the ground with that. 

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Same thing if you had a 48 inch 
or a 52 inch long rifle in your 

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hand, it probably would make 
impact on the ground as you 

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collapsed. 
And he actually lands really 

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hard. 
It looks like doesn't look like 

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a good landing. 
It's not APLF. 

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Let's just say that a parachute 
landing fall folks. 

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But then anyway, if that were to
hit the ground at the butt 

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stock, you would imagine that 
the the rifle scope could be 

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dislodged rearward like that. 
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across the street, nobody thinks
the other if you're carrying 

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some kind of package in your 
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campus, people are walking 
around backpacks and then he 

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ditches it in the woods. 
So I just want to say that it's 

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not insane what they claimed, 
even though other people talked 

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about it happened to be 
unscrewed. 

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Like there's nowhere in the 
official statements that said 

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that it had to be disassembled. 
And I agree with you, a Mouser 

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action like that is not getting 
disassembled in the field. 

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No, And why go to the trouble of
ditching it in the box? 

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Well, he didn't ditch it in the 
box, so that looks like an 

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evidence collection box to me, 
unless you tell me otherwise. 

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I'm sorry, they said it was 
wrapped in a blanket. 

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Wrapped in a blanket? 
Yeah. 

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It was wrapped in like, either a
towel or a blanket. 

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That would make sense to me. 
The box there that people are 

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always speculating. 
They don't realize that people 

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send, you know, pictures the 
minute that that law enforcement

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gathers something, they put it 
in a cardboard box to preserve 

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DNA and fingerprints. 
Doesn't go in a bag, doesn't get

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wrapped up in anything else. 
They don't keep it in the towel.

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They actually zip tie it in 
here. 

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And they usually zip tie the 
action open so that it's known 

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to be safe, so you can transport
evidence. 

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So anyway, this is not out of 
line. 

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Every every local PD has a 
different protocol, but the FB 

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is would be to actually zip tie 
the the the bolt open and maybe 

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even run a zip tie down the 
entire barrel. 

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It's not out of line for what I 
think. 

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I want to play you Donald Trump,
drop in the news less than an 

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hour ago that they have him. 
And then we'll maybe listen 

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critically, if you would, about 
some of the words that he has to

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say because I'm not. 
I'm not sure what I think about 

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it just yet. 
Any updates on the suspect? 

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Yeah. 
Can I always say I think just to

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protect us all and so Fox 
doesn't get sued and we all 

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don't get sued and everything 
else, but I think with a high 

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degree of certainty, we have 
him. 

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We're in custody, OK, In 
custody. 

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Everyone did a great job. 
We worked with the local police,

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the governor, everybody did a 
great job. 

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You know, getting somebody that 
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nothing. 
And we started off with a clip 

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that made him look like an Ant 
that was almost useless. 

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We just saw there was somebody 
up there and so much work has 

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been done over the last 2 1/2 
days. 

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You know, it's amazing, 
actually, when you start off 

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with that and then all of a 
sudden you, you get lucky or 

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talent OR whatever it is. 
But yeah, we're, I think we're 

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in great shape. 
That's the person he's in 

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custody. 
What? 

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Do you think about his verbiage 
there? 

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Obviously he's withholding 
something that he feels might 

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either result in litigation or 
some sort of uproar. 

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And there's been plenty of 
uproar on Blue Sky and Reddit 

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from the left side of the aisle.
So obviously he's with 

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withholding something. 
There's a local radio 

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personality here in Boston who 
is not withholding anything. 

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And my guess is, is that's what 
the president is. 

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It is keeping back. 
But if we have the suspect or, 

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you know, and that means there's
a name associated with it, I, I 

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don't understand what the 
ramifications are of saying, you

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know, we have Joe Blow in 
custody and right now he's 

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innocent until proven guilty. 
And we'll see where it goes. 

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So. 
There's a little bit more 

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details he gave about that 
because they wanted to know, you

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know, what the specifics. 
This is what actually struck me.

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It had nothing to do with grunt 
police work. 

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It may have had something to do 
with the photographs being 

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circulated, but it turns out 
that it wasn't law enforcement 

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that ran him down. 
This was a self surrender. 

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And that's I guess the best case
scenario, but it's also doesn't 

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mean that the resources that 
they brought to bear necessarily

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did with it didn't actually 
uncover anybody. 

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So this is the second piece of 
that. 

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Essentially went to the father 
and went to AUS Marshall who was

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fantastic by the way. 
And the person was involved with

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law enforcement but was a person
of faith, a minister. 

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And I brought him to AUS 
Marshall who was fantastic and 

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the father convinced the son and
this is it. 

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And again, I'm always subject to
be corrected. 

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But you know, I'm just giving 
you based on what I'm hearing, 

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they'll give you a much more 
active. 

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I just heard about it 5 minutes 
before I walked in. 

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As I'm walking in, they said 
they're looking real good. 

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They have the person that they 
wanted. 

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So you have breaking news, don't
you? 

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You always have. 
Always got breaking news, he 

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says. 
What do you make of that story 

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as far as the the turn in versus
maybe like grunt force law 

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enforcement? 
So we actually saw this during 

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the, the the manhunt on the 
marathon bombing where, you 

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know, BPD state police, you 
know, search resources in the 

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field. 
Obviously the FBI field office 

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pulled in every agent from every
program and every RA and just 

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descended on, on the Boston 
metropolitan area like a kick 

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over anthill. 
So, so that's kind of like, 

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like, you know, like the hounds 
chasing the bear. 

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But it was circumstances that 
actually put the sonar EBS into 

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are 100% certainty knowledge 
that they were the perpetrators 

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of it. 
It was a route, it was the 

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carjacking which led to the 
traffic stop in Watertown, which

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led to the shootout, which led 
to multiple IE D's being thrown 

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out. 
And it wasn't until a quick cat,

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quick capture platform was used 
on Tamerlan that we were 100% 

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certain that that's who, you 
know, he was when those cops 

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pulled him over in Watertown. 
They did not. 

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What is a quick? 
Capture program, Yeah. 

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What did that mean? 
The quick capture platform is 

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just basically a finger 
fingerprint reader that you can 

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bring into the field with you. 
So it was circumstances, a 

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multitude of circumstances that 
drove the scenarios into the 

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net, which led to one death and 
then eventually the capture one 

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of the victims from the bombing 
was able to positively identify 

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Joharsson RF from an artist 
rendering and some pictures. 

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So it is it's never as clean as 
it's captured on TV where it's 

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like one guy who's making it all
happen and driving forward 

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towards an objective. 
It is a variety of elements 

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brought to bear that that 'cause
you know these captures to take 

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place. 
It's same thing with Johar 

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scenario. 
There was a a guy in Watertown 

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going outside to smoke a 
cigarette after the all clear 

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was given the people could come 
out of the house. 

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It's it's never as as clean as 
Hollywood would make it out to 

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be. 
That's fair. 

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We also had some of the 
suspendables chat this morning 

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discussing how isn't it 
interesting that it turns out 

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that if you put enough public 
pressure on the family members 

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often times will step forward. 
And they were mentioning Ted 

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Kaczynski and the Unabomber 
situation, which would have 

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continued to be an unsolved case
but for a brother-in-law or a, 

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you know, family member. 
Was it a brother or a 

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brother-in-law? 
I think it was brother-in-law. 

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I think it was a brother. 
Was it the actual brother? 

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Yeah, well, I'm 98% sure it was 
his brother. 

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But family nonetheless, yeah, 
pushing that forward and saying,

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hey, this is the right guy, you 
got to go find him and this is 

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what he's doing. 
And I think he was involved in 

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this. 
In this case, sounds like father

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and minister, which is not what 
you'd expect necessarily. 

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You wouldn't expect there to be 
a minister involved. 

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I guess maybe the family 
involved in a church, but taking

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a taking a shot at somebody 
who's out there speaking 

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Christian values on a college 
campus kind of it doesn't jar 

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with going to church to me. 
Look, we don't know how much of 

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A black sheep he was from his 
family. 

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We don't know anything about his
family. 

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We don't know the relationship 
between his family and the 

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minister. 
You know, there's a lot of cases

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where you have children who run 
a stray of good parents and bad 

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parents that raise good 
children. 

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I mean, who knows? 
Yeah, great point. 

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I'm going to show you this 
video. 

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You take a look. 
This is a grainy video. 

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It's not perfect. 
It's not even the original 

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capture, unfortunately. 
But this is the the surveillance

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footage that they were playing. 
I'm going to put on there. 

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If you guys are just listening, 
we're about what, 20 minutes in?

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So you guys can take a look on 
here. 

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If you're watching on Spotify, 
Kyle, seraphinshow.com, you can 

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just switch over to the video 
platform version. 

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This is the coming off the roof 
part. 

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As he does, he's going to climb 
off the edge and then drop down 

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to the ground. 
As he did that, he left some 

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palm impressions. 
There's some smudges and some 

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places we're looking to collect 
DNA. 

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There's a shoe in print where we
believe the suspect is clearly 

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identified as wearing Converse 
tennis shoes. 

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Again, we'll replay that again 
so you can get another view of 

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that. 
It's important to note his black

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T-shirt, his black pants, and 
there is appears to be some 

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white on the soles of those 
Converse tennis shoes. 

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Those are all identifiable items
that we're looking. 

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For. 
In the stills that are going to.

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All right, and then from there 
he went and ended up crossing 

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the street. 
They showed that the cameras 

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panned with him, which is also 
interesting. 

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So they must have done some like
chopping and zoom. 

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Hence the video quality is not 
great, but it looks like the guy

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walked out. 
Did you see what I was talking 

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about when it talks about the 
like the long package looks like

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he lays it. 
Down Well, I what I noticed was 

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the backpack and then being 
dropped and then then the swing 

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of something long and. 
Indistinguishable. 

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So, yeah, indistinguishable 
logically, could be, could said,

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look, you know, end of the day, 
we'll have to hear what they 

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have to say with the timeline 
because somebody should sketch 

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this out and they'll make it 
public, I'm sure. 

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But that was my my guess. 
It doesn't have to be the thing 

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that everybody thinks. 
It doesn't have to be that he 

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had a rifle stuff down his leg. 
I think that would be a 

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ludicrous way to try to smuggle 
a weapon on the campus anyhow. 

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All right, so we've got that. 
There's one little piece. 

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I wanted to hear you, too. 
Did you hear him talk about the 

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US Marshall? 
Just a brief mention, a couple. 

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Times and he said there's AUS 
Marshall who was fantastic by 

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the way, twice he mentioned that
in the previous two clips. 

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This is another piece. 
There's someone else that he 

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mentions who's also fantastic. 
There's someone he doesn't 

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mention as well. 
Always subject to be corrected, 

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but you know, I'm just giving 
you all. 

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Right, sorry, that was the first
clip. 

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Let me do the second clip. 
Always subject to be corrected, 

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but you know, I'm just giving 
you based on what I'm hearing, 

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they'll give you a much more 
active. 

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I just heard about it 5 minutes 
before. 

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Bear with me, folks. 
I think I got the wrong clip 

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again. 
I'm trying to find the first one

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and maybe I didn't even grab it,
so I may have to just take a 

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look here. 
Let's see. 

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That's the one. 
What says we've got him? 

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Let me find the one where he's 
talking about somebody else. 

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I think this is Trump clip #2 
Let's try this one. 

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Essentially went to the father 
and went. 

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Sorry, I'm digging for it here. 
We're going to find it real 

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quick. 
There's three clips that I have 

452
00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,160
of Donald Trump talking. 
One of them is very interesting 

453
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,840
because he says something that 
is specific. 

454
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,920
There it is, Trump 3. 
Sorry. 

455
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,040
Always subject to be corrected. 
But you know, I'm just giving 

456
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:44,040
you based on what I'm hearing, 
they'll give you a much more 

457
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,720
active. 
I just heard about it 5 minutes 

458
00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,280
before I walked in. 
As I'm walking in, they said 

459
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,160
looking real good. 
They have the person that they 

460
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,960
wanted. 
So you have breaking news, don't

461
00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:58,040
you? 
You always have breaking news, 

462
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,400
Ansley. 
Sean Sean's going to be very 

463
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,520
disappointed that that we're not
doing it on his show. 

464
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,160
He'll. 
Be very thankful and and 

465
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,240
appreciative of the police 
officers that got this. 

466
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,480
Cop they did a great job. 
Everybody and everybody worked 

467
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,480
together. 
Pam Bondi is incredible by the 

468
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,440
way she's. 
That's what I was looking for at

469
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,080
the end there. 
Sorry, I, I didn't mean to play 

470
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,520
it five times for you, but 
because it was an overlap at the

471
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,040
other clip, but he mentions Pam 
Bondi and a Marshall being 

472
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,640
incredible. 
Cops did a great job. 

473
00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,120
Somebody, some people were 
conspicuously absent. 

474
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:31,320
Yeah, well, Cash flew all the 
way out to Utah for a press 

475
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,600
briefing that he didn't give. 
So yeah, I didn't mention him, 

476
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,960
didn't mention Dan, And quite 
frankly, I thought I was 

477
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,680
following it pretty closely. 
I don't know what role Pam Bondi

478
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,520
played in all this. 
I thought she was involved in 

479
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:46,480
the prosecutorial end of things.
Unclear to me as well as someone

480
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,080
who's never seen an attorney 
general get involved in anything

481
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,040
that has to do with the 
investigative end or a manhunt. 

482
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,720
I, I have 0 idea what that would
be. 

483
00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,800
I did mention this yesterday. 
Obviously I'm hyper critical of,

484
00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:57,280
of people like Cash Patel at 
this point. 

485
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,240
So I'll acknowledge that there's
a bias that I have on there. 

486
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,200
Did you, have you ever seen this
before? 

487
00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,040
Have you ever seen somebody in a
national high profile case make 

488
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:09,080
an announcement that they had a 
shooter in custody when in fact 

489
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:09,760
they did not? 
Is that? 

490
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:11,640
Is there an analog for this that
I've I've missed? 

491
00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,360
No and. 
I don't need to set you up with 

492
00:23:15,360 --> 00:23:17,800
like an answer, like a pat 
answer, but I'm, I'm serious, 

493
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,920
like I can't think of a time 
that this has been done. 

494
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,360
Not in my lifetime. 
And again, I mean, there was a 

495
00:23:23,360 --> 00:23:27,000
tremendous amount of pressure on
the command post or in the 

496
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:31,240
manhunt for us to be more 
forthcoming with information. 

497
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,840
Ed Davis was a prolific leaker 
to the media and we were getting

498
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:41,080
pressure from the governor's 
office and the SAC was in 

499
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,480
contact with White House staff 
on on a multiple times a day 

500
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,040
basis. 
You have to, you've got to stand

501
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,880
your ground. 
You've got a manhunt and then 

502
00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,920
you got an investigation and a 
subsequent prosecution. 

503
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:04,160
And for for those kinds of 
theaters, it's just very 

504
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,120
unprofessional. 
I'll probably stop there. 

505
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,160
I had people point out to me 
that Robert Mueller went and 

506
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:12,240
walked the grounds in New York 
and the the Trade Center when it

507
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:14,280
was possible. 
He walked the grounds maybe at 

508
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,080
the Pentagon as well and maybe 
even at the out in the field in 

509
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,560
Pennsylvania. 
So that was something that he 

510
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,240
visited early on. 
Once they were, you know, sort 

511
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,000
of deep into the phase of 
collecting evidence and 

512
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,080
everything had been kind of, you
know, set up. 

513
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:29,880
But this wasn't exactly a multi 
site, you know, international 

514
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,680
terrorist event. 
This was a, you know, what 

515
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,480
looked like a lone shooter. 
We'll find out more about it 

516
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,720
later. 
Have you seen FBI directors fly 

517
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,760
in and walk a scene? 
And can you, is there an UPS? 

518
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,720
Can you give a one, an analogy 
or an analog? 

519
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,120
And two, can you tell me like 
what that would add value that 

520
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,240
I'm missing? 
George Bush refused to land in 

521
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,920
New Orleans during Katrina 
because he said it would be 

522
00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,000
disruptive to the efforts going 
on. 

523
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,960
Not a big George Bush fan, but 
he was 100% right there. 

524
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,560
Having the director and the 
deputy director fly into Utah in

525
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:10,000
the middle of a high profile 
assassination is it is 

526
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,240
disruptive and it sends the 
wrong signal to people that are 

527
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:18,040
following this, which is why do 
we need the two highest ranking 

528
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:23,920
people together in in Utah, 
which you have state and local 

529
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,960
resources surging into to 
address the effort. 

530
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:31,640
They become nothing more than 
disruptive and maybe even to the

531
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,640
point of of hurting the manhunt 
and the investigation. 

532
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,360
You'll see a lot of social media
types that know nothing about 

533
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,080
this kind of thing and they're 
like, well, they have to go and 

534
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,520
evaluate the evidence stream. 
Do you want to give a quick 

535
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:47,520
assessment on any evidence that 
is evaluated by a director, 

536
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,120
deputy director, associate 
deputy director, or even an 

537
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,080
assistant director at any level?
Like are they looking at any 

538
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:54,840
stream of evidence as far as 
you're aware? 

539
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,240
I could be glue and just say, 
no, there isn't. 

540
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,200
But look, they have no training 
or experience in this. 

541
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:03,800
Dan worked financial cases when 
he was at the Secret Service and

542
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:08,680
Cash Patel worked with fully 
digested and shattered out 

543
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,960
evidence on his investigations 
when he was in the political 

544
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,800
sphere for the White House and 
for Congress. 

545
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:19,320
So they have no, they have no 
background in this, but 

546
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,280
Hollywood likes to do that. 
They like to send out, you know,

547
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:25,880
in their series, you know, SA CS
and directors out into the 

548
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,320
field, you know, because it did 
the name, just, you know, the 

549
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:33,880
title supposed to have some 
gravitas to it. 

550
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,280
But again, there's nothing more 
than disruptive. 

551
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,640
They have no background, they 
have no experience. 

552
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,240
And, and even at the SAC level, 
you, you want to keep this down 

553
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:50,280
at the 11, you know, 1314 level 
tops the actual grunt work. 

554
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,960
You know, Ross Perot used to 
say, if you want a successful 

555
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,880
organization, find and hire the 
best, best people and then leave

556
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,200
them to hell alone. 
And that's how a successful 

557
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,560
organization works. 
I've ascribed to that principle 

558
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,560
of my entire working life. 
It's a good principle. 

559
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,400
I'm going to show this, I'm 
going to take off the screen for

560
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:08,440
a second. 
I'm going to show this press 

561
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:10,520
conference that we mentioned 
because what we saw yesterday 

562
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:14,360
was that the, the FBI jet flew 
out there obviously to maybe 

563
00:27:14,360 --> 00:27:16,400
help out. 
Then it flew back to the to the 

564
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,200
East Coast. 
And my guess was, is that maybe 

565
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,960
there was some evidence 
collection that needed to be 

566
00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:22,680
processed. 
The FBI lab at Quantico is very 

567
00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:25,120
effective at getting fast turn 
around if they are so required. 

568
00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:27,240
So they could do Ballistics, 
they could do DNA, etcetera. 

569
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,920
My guess is, is they flew out 
like an evidence response team 

570
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,800
along with the director 
yesterday morning, got them on 

571
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:34,000
ground. 
They were only on the ground for

572
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:36,200
about two hours, which means the
evidence was probably already 

573
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,280
collected. 
And then they packaged it up, 

574
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840
you know, beat feedback to the 
airport, turn around and flew 

575
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,120
back out to the to the East 
Coast to go and get that stuff 

576
00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,600
started. 
And then it, it flew back out 

577
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,680
again, maybe to take the guys 
home after this press 

578
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,200
conference. 
Here's the press conference. 

579
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,760
I'm going to play it for you 
guys so you can kind of take a 

580
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,000
look at it. 
I'm going to talk over it. 

581
00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:55,520
What you're seeing is the the 
governor, there's Cash Patel 

582
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,160
wearing a Ray jacket for some 
reason. 

583
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,400
And then you've got another guy 
in a suit and tie who's not 

584
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,760
identified, some additional sort
of local partner types or people

585
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,280
from the FBI. 
And then you've got the special 

586
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,040
agent in charge of the field 
office who appropriately is 

587
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,920
wearing a tie is what you'd 
expect in a suit. 

588
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,680
And they gather together. 
We're going to run this clip all

589
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,160
the way through. 
The one thing that I can't 

590
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,880
figure out is why he's wearing a
Ray jacket, why he's got cool 

591
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,400
guy patches on it. 
He's standing there. 

592
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:18,880
You're the freaking director of 
the FBI. 

593
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,640
It's not like. 
Hey everybody. 

594
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240
Thank you for being here today. 
My name is Hilary Keller. 

595
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,880
I am the communications Director
for the Utah Department of 

596
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,960
Public Safety. 
This evening we have FBI 

597
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Director Patel, FBI Deputy 
Director Dan Bongino, Special 

598
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,000
Agent in Charge Robert Bowles, 
Governor Spencer Cox, Lieutenant

599
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,800
Governor Deidre Henderson and 
Commissioner Anderson as well 

600
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,240
as. 
I'm so sorry, Commissioner, 

601
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,760
Commissioner Beau Mason, as well
as some local partners here 

602
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,920
present with us today. 
Governor, we'll kick it off. 

603
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,920
All right, so the governor goes 
on to speak and he kind of gives

604
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,040
them what they have. 
He's the only one that speaks 

605
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,960
and then everybody processes off
the stage. 

606
00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,640
You can't see Dan Bongino on the
stage, but she's he's announced 

607
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:01,960
as being there. 
So I believe that they're 

608
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:06,160
probably not lying about that. 
I, I talked to a retired senior 

609
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:09,040
agent and he said if those guys 
are running, who's running the 

610
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:12,280
shop back in DC? 
If the two, the top one in the 2

611
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,360
are out there being on camera on
stage. 

612
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:19,280
If he has 100 things on his desk
every day requiring his direct 

613
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:20,920
attention and supervision, yeah,
who? 

614
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,920
Who's who's calling the shots? 
Now apparently we had Andrew 

615
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,680
Bailey start at the beginning of
this week without a lot of 

616
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:27,440
fanfare. 
And so Andrew Bailey stepped. 

617
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:31,680
So he stepped away from his AG 
job began on September the 

618
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,480
eighth. 
That was what his timeline was. 

619
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,520
That was announced publicly, 
which would mean theoretically 

620
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:39,400
in five days, he's OK to be #1 
at the FBI. 

621
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:43,080
Was am I off in that assessment?
No, 100%. 

622
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,400
You know, maybe they'll miss 
their flight back, I don't know.

623
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,040
As in, they might find another 
job or be looking for another 

624
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,400
job. 
So you know, it's it's. 

625
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,080
Mechanically. 
Early for ski It's a little too 

626
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360
early for ski season, but you 
know, they might want to go on a

627
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,320
hike or there's some pretty 
weird but elk or deer season 

628
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,840
opens up here shortly. 
Yeah, you're being glib. 

629
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,320
And flip it about it, that's 
that's George Hill's dry wit for

630
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:05,520
those of you that are not 
familiar. 

631
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,520
But if you were to actually now 
step any of those guys down, he 

632
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:09,840
immediately stepped into an 
acting role. 

633
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,400
He's officially in that position
as far as I understand it. 

634
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,080
So just just kind of 
interesting. 

635
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,960
I want to also pivot over and 
talk about the culture real 

636
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,440
quick and then I'll, I'll, I'll 
thank you for your time here. 

637
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,160
This is something that an agent 
sent me this morning as a, as a 

638
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,560
reminder of what we're talking 
about culturally. 

639
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,400
This is not a new article. 
This is actually from April of 

640
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,360
earlier this year and the 
article is entitled Stunning. 

641
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,560
New study shows Left's 
assassination culture has hit 

642
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,600
disturbing levels with Trump and
Elon Musk at that time targeted 

643
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:42,320
April 8th, 2025. 
This is coming from the Western 

644
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,600
Journal for those of you who 
want to look up leftist 

645
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,840
assassination culture and says 
often we public we complicate 

646
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,120
public affairs after all, seems 
critical with platforms and 

647
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,800
elections and policies they 
receive in the face of 1 

648
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,080
defining question whom you 
serve, light or darkness. 

649
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,480
And according to a report from 
the Network Contagion Research 

650
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,720
Institute at Rutgers University,
which I can't imagine is very 

651
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,760
right wing, the darkness that so
many of us have sent steadily 

652
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,480
growing in our minds is deeply 
disturbed. 

653
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,040
And it's propagandized leftist 
that is metastasized in their 

654
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,040
hearts and souls, resulting in a
quote, UN quote assassination 

655
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,040
culture fixated on prominent 
figures such as Donald Trump, 

656
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,200
his ally Elon Musk. 
You'd have to imagine that 

657
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,080
Charlie Kirk would fit into that
category as well. 

658
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,440
And other things, people who 
were in charge of doge, people 

659
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,720
that were government officials 
doing things they did not like 

660
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,720
says quote. 
The NCRA empirically assesses 

661
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:30,800
this shift with original survey 
data and open source 

662
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,160
intelligence analysis to assess 
how normalized and justifies 

663
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,760
violence against the 
administration has become part 

664
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,640
of the public discourse. 
You're a, a consumer of all 

665
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,760
these things as well and and an 
Intel type guy. 

666
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,520
What do you make of, of, of that
sort of highline analysis there?

667
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,120
And I'm happy to send you this 
article for later too. 

668
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,360
Yeah, I, I, I think he's, he's 
got some really good points 

669
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,160
here. 
But we become such an emotional 

670
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,920
driven society. 
The other day on your podcast, 

671
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,880
you were talking about a low 
trust, high trust society. 

672
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,680
When you take out critical 
thinking, when you take out an 

673
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,200
understanding of the founding 
principles of the country, 

674
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,160
you're left with nothing but 
feelings. 

675
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,680
And when I taught college, I 
would tell my students that you 

676
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600
know, if you feel something or 
if you write or say you feel 

677
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360
something, your feelings are no 
more valid than mine, and mine 

678
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,800
no more valid than yours. 
But we become a feeling society 

679
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,920
instead of a thinking society. 
Not thinking. 

680
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,120
It requires a little bit of 
research, a little time out, a 

681
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:32,560
little pause. 
And, and this is how we address 

682
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,360
our problems, not we meaning you
or me or your audience, but this

683
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,120
is how a growing segment of our 
population addresses their, 

684
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:42,640
their issues that they're that 
they can't deal with 

685
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,440
intellectually, which is through
violence. 

686
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,000
There's another little line in 
here that's essential to this 

687
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,200
belief system is that W left 
wing authoritarianism 

688
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,320
characterized by moral 
absolutism, punitive attitudes 

689
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,480
towards ideological opponents 
and a willingness to use 

690
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:59,080
coercion for progressive aims, 
is what sort of characterizes 

691
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,080
this quote UN quote 
assassination culture. 

692
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:05,280
And you've said things about 
secular leftists, about climate 

693
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,880
pagans and so on before. 
I think that fits directly into 

694
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:09,520
what you're talking about, 
particularly this thing about 

695
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,880
moral absolutism, that there's 
no Gray area for them. 

696
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,600
It's all about power. 
This is why I reject the calls 

697
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,320
from people on the conservative 
side saying that we must, quote,

698
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,440
come together and we're one 
people. 

699
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,560
It's clear based on the evidence
that we're not one people. 

700
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,920
And I don't know how this sorts 
itself out. 

701
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,920
I would prefer that it doesn't 
do it in a violent manner. 

702
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:38,040
But one side seems to be fully 
committed to violence in order 

703
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:42,560
to attain obtain their 
objective, which is absolute 

704
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,120
power over the reins of 
government and the people 

705
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,640
governed by the government, 
which is antithetical to our 

706
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:52,840
constitutional Republic. 
We are not governed by our 

707
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,440
government. 
There's something I saw that 

708
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,600
just passed by in the chat, so 
I'm going to derail my my 

709
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,320
thought process. 
Somebody said that, you know, 

710
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,120
these guys are basically 
visiting the site where their 

711
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,680
friend was shot because a lot of
people in the conservative 

712
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,000
sphere have had very close 
interactions with Charlie Kirk. 

713
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,120
And I can imagine that that's 
true. 

714
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,280
And I've seen so many people 
talk from their deep personal 

715
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,480
experience about how much they 
respected him as a human and as 

716
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,840
a, and you know, as a friend. 
Is that not another good reason 

717
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,800
to stay away? 
That you're, you're now, you're 

718
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,480
now sort of you have a conflict 
of interest in, in everything 

719
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560
and that you don't actually want
to go and get involved in an 

720
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,960
investigation for fear of 
tainting it. 

721
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,960
You don't want to actually even 
be seen as being inappropriate 

722
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,000
about that. 
And am I missing that too? 

723
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,920
Not at all, unless you have 
something to contribute that is 

724
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,840
tangible. 
You know, another example, 

725
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520
during the marathon bombing, and
I'm sure during this case as 

726
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:43,040
well, you had thousands, 10s of 
thousands of people sending in 

727
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:49,719
millions of images to help. 
Good people by nature want to 

728
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,320
help. 
But if you don't have anything 

729
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:55,480
tangible that you can add that 
could stand up to even a little 

730
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:02,440
bit of scrutiny, then, you know,
stay home, you know, be a 

731
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:06,360
consumer of information and be a
discerning consumer of 

732
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,120
information. 
All right, one of the guys that 

733
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,440
has been, I would say, accused 
of fiery rhetoric is a guy named

734
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:13,960
Chuck Schumer. 
He's a senator. 

735
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,680
He's from New York and we 
remember him saying things like 

736
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,480
vague threats to members of the 
Supreme Court if they didn't 

737
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,840
rule the way that he liked and 
so on. 

738
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,600
Of course, he's one of the first
people now that we're hearing, 

739
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,920
quote UN quote, calling for 
unity. 

740
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,600
This does seem to be sort of the
the movement. 

741
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:31,160
The assessment here was that 
there's a leftist assassination 

742
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,240
culture. 
But should that happen, 

743
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,440
everybody immediately wants to 
talk about how everybody needs 

744
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:37,280
to play nice together. 
So I got a couple clips of that 

745
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:38,960
and I'll, I'll get some 
reactions on that in a second. 

746
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,000
Can we get your? 
Reaction. 

747
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:42,480
To. 
President. 

748
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,600
Well, look, the bottom line is 
this is a time that all 

749
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,840
Americans should come together 
and feel and mourn what 

750
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,360
happened. 
Violence, which effects so many 

751
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,840
different people of so many 
different political persuasions,

752
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,080
is a is an affliction of 
America, and coming together is 

753
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:07,480
what we ought to be doing, not 
pointing fingers of blame. 

754
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:12,360
This moment requires leadership 
that brings the American people 

755
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:16,560
together as opposed to trying to
further divide US. 

756
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:20,200
Political violence in any form 
against any American is 

757
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,840
unacceptable, should be 
denounced by everyone, and 

758
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,440
moving forward, we have to 
figure out a better way to come 

759
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:31,440
together, not. 
So there's Hakeem Jeffries 

760
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,040
adding his two cents. 
Everybody needs to come 

761
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,480
together. 
No specifics mentioned. 

762
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,560
Nobody wants to mention that 
where the violence came from in 

763
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,360
this case. 
Well, it wasn't Chuck the one 

764
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,400
that said The whirlwind's coming
for you, Kavanaugh. 

765
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,240
Or words to that effect. 
Yeah, you'll, you'll, you'll 

766
00:36:45,240 --> 00:36:46,640
reap the whirlwind if you if you
make. 

767
00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:53,680
A decision the Internet is is 
is, you know, terabytes of video

768
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,680
evidence of people like Chuck 
Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries and 

769
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,560
others calling for violence. 
And, and then they project that 

770
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,760
onto the conservative side, 
saying that, you know, you're 

771
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,080
the violent ones. 
You said nothing about the the 

772
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,960
killings that took place in 
Minnesota. 

773
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,160
You know, so it's just enough 
already. 

774
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,440
Is that just the gaslighting 
aspect of it you think? 

775
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Oh. 100% and the the the part 
that irks me, even though you 

776
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,960
didn't ask is the people that 
are supposedly our political 

777
00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:28,880
like minded friends Sign on on 
this. 

778
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:31,680
You know, Katie Britt's out 
there today talking about 

779
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880
senator from Alabama, I believe 
about, you know, coming together

780
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,040
and we're one people and all 
this other baloney. 

781
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:39,520
It's like, yeah, after I shoot 
you in the face, let's come 

782
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,800
together. 
You know, it's just, it's really

783
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,640
tiresome. 
I've got one more little clip 

784
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:47,120
that'll inferior people. 
This is Ginger Gobbles, AKA 

785
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:49,400
Jensaki doing her show. 
She's talking to Mark Kelly. 

786
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,000
He's another, you know, he's a 
guy out of Arizona has so some 

787
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,840
understanding of what gun 
violence could look like, you 

788
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,320
know, very close by. 
And then we're going to hear 

789
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,240
that they're not even going to 
play Donald Trump's words 

790
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,840
because they're so offensive. 
But we'd also like to comment on

791
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,160
how he's divisive. 
And this is immediately where 

792
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:06,800
they go with this stuff. 
This was about two days ago. 

793
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,120
But he put out a. 4 minute video
and I'm not going to play the 

794
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:10,720
video. 
I don't want to play the video, 

795
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480
but there was a line at the end 
that that I think is I just 

796
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,840
wanted to raise and read at the 
end of this 4 minute video. 

797
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,840
He says for years those on the 
radical left have compared 

798
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,320
wonderful Americans like Charlie
to Nazis in the world's most 

799
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,760
worst mass murderers and 
criminals. 

800
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,720
This kind of rhetoric is 
directly responsible for the 

801
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:30,240
terrorism that we're seeing in 
our country today. 

802
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,360
And it must stop right now. 
And obviously that there's a lot

803
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
of rhetoric that is problematic.
A lot of it is coming from one 

804
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,480
particular side and from one 
particular building. 

805
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,520
But what can be done? 
I I I fear when this is an 

806
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,280
escalation already in less than 
24. 

807
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Hours of this shooting. 
Yeah. 

808
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,120
He goes on and talks about the 
same sort of things. 

809
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:55,000
Obviously it's really coming 
from one side, and yet we've got

810
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:57,240
studies saying otherwise and our
personal experience says 

811
00:38:57,240 --> 00:38:59,680
otherwise as well. 
Yeah. 

812
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,040
Was that Mark Kelly she was 
talking to? 

813
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,000
And you know, so we remember 
sale of pair and Palin being 

814
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,200
driven off the political stage 
in the public stage for her 

815
00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,000
comments about political 
targeting. 

816
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:15,920
Simple word. 
If you say something that the 

817
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,000
left disagrees with, you're 
committing and it's an act of 

818
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,920
violence. 
So silence is violence with 

819
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,240
them. 
Or if you say something you did 

820
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,360
they disagree with, that's 
violence as well. 

821
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,480
There's no winning with these 
people other than taking a knee 

822
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:32,960
and capitulation because we 
can't have a discussion, which I

823
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:38,200
believe is, you know, the whole 
entire basis of Charlie Kirk's, 

824
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,560
you know, movement, which is to 
engage in constructive dialogue,

825
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,640
you know, back and forth using 
whether it's the Socratic method

826
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:51,400
or, or whatever. 
But you know, listen, you know, 

827
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,000
and then respond in an 
intellectual fashion, not an 

828
00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,160
emotional fashion. 
But now we're getting responses 

829
00:39:57,160 --> 00:40:00,840
in a violent, kinetic fashion. 
And that's, you know, we saw 

830
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,960
that outburst or in the George 
Floyd thing as well. 

831
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:07,040
So it's it's it seems to 
continue to run its course. 

832
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,920
I'm. 
Going to sum this up with the 

833
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,800
way that Nick Freitas covered 
this on his own podcast 

834
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,160
yesterday or the day before. 
I think this, I think this 

835
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,680
actually is a brilliant 
encapsulation of what the 

836
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,520
situation looks like. 
I may run this longer than 

837
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,480
normal, but George, I think that
you'll appreciate sort of 

838
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,480
someone taking those thoughts 
and crystallizing them into one 

839
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,000
message of digesting all of it 
at once and then the reaction 

840
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:32,920
from people who are paying 
attention to what the results 

841
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,720
are. 
Here's Nick Fridas. 

842
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,800
You know, let's let's jump to 
that real quick, just so 

843
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,160
everyone has context of what I'm
talking about, so I'll read this

844
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:47,080
off. 
This was my read my tweet. 

845
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,840
We'll put that one on there. 
And so I'll tell you what the 

846
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,200
speaker of the Virginia House of
Delegates responded to. 

847
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,400
So this is what I said 
yesterday, and I waited on this 

848
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,040
because I waited on this. 
I prayed on it. 

849
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,040
And I was like, no, no, I 
believe this is true. 

850
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,600
So this is what I said. 
So I am told that as a state 

851
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,920
representative, this is the 
moment where I'm supposed to 

852
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,280
express my heartfelt condolences
and then stand in solidarity 

853
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440
with those on the other side of 
the aisle as we condemn 

854
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,240
political violence and stand 
unified as one people. 

855
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,320
But we aren't one people, are 
we? 

856
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,160
The truth is, we haven't been 
for some time now, and there is 

857
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:24,520
really no point in pretending 
anymore, if there ever was. 

858
00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:27,080
We are two very different 
peoples. 

859
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:31,040
We may occupy the same piece of 
geography, but that is where the

860
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,840
similarities seem to abruptly 
end. 

861
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,520
I convinced myself for a long 
time that whenever the left 

862
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,760
called me a racist, a bigot, A 
sexist, A fascist, a threat to 

863
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,200
democracy for even the most 
innocent of disagreements, that 

864
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,160
it was simply hyperbolic 
rhetoric done for effect. 

865
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,120
And now the effect is a widow 
and two orphaned children 

866
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,640
because the left couldn't bear 
the thought of a peaceful man 

867
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,200
debating them and winning. 
I don't think they realize it 

868
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,520
yet, but murdering Charlie is 
going to be remembered as the 

869
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,400
day where we finally woke up to 
what this fight it really is. 

870
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,640
It is not a civil dispute among 
fellow countrymen. 

871
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,440
It's a war between diametrically
opposed worldviews which cannot 

872
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
peacefully coexist with one 
another. 

873
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,560
One side will win and one side 
will lose. 

874
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:16,800
Charlie tried to win that fight 
through argumentation, through 

875
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,440
discussion, through peaceful 
resolution of differences. 

876
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:23,320
And the other side murdered him.
Not because he's not because he 

877
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,840
was extreme or inciting violence
or any other hyperbolic slur 

878
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:28,880
they hurled at him. 
They murdered him because he was

879
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,960
effective, because he was 
unafraid, because he inspired 

880
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360
others and made them feel like 
they had a voice, that they were

881
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,360
not alone. 
And he did it at the very 

882
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,920
institutions which have fomented
so much hatred toward 

883
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,520
conservatives. 
I don't want to stand in 

884
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:43,280
solidarity with the other side 
of the aisle. 

885
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,160
I want to defeat you. 
I want to defeat the godless 

886
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:49,160
ideology that kills babies in 
the womb, sterilizes confused 

887
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,040
children, turns our cities into 
cesspools of degeneracy and 

888
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,120
lawlessness, and then murdered 
Charlie Kirk. 

889
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Social media is aflame right now
with leftist celebration of 

890
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,640
Charlie's death. 
I wonder if any among them 

891
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,280
understand what has just 
happened. 

892
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,720
If there is a Yamamoto somewhere
in their midst warning that all 

893
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:09,240
they have done is awoken a 
sleeping giant, I doubt it. 

894
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,400
I think they gave up such 
introspection and self-awareness

895
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,720
long ago. 
I don't know exactly what will 

896
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:16,440
happen next. 
I just know that it won't be the

897
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,080
same as what has happened in the
past. 

898
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,560
There will be thoughts and 
prayers. 

899
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,560
Charlie would have wanted 
prayers not for himself, but for

900
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,480
those left behind and for the 
country that he loved. 

901
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,440
But then there will be a 
reckoning. 

902
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,440
My Christian faith requires me 
to love my enemies and pray for 

903
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,560
those who curse me. 
It does not require me to stand 

904
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,480
idly by in the midst of savagery
and barbarism. 

905
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,120
Quite the opposite. 
So every time I feel tired, 

906
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,320
every time I feel discouraged or
overwhelmed, I'm going to watch 

907
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,720
the video of a good man being 
murdered in Utah. 

908
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,120
I will force myself to watch it,
and then I will return to the 

909
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,840
work of destroying the evil 
ideology responsible for that 

910
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,000
and so much more. 
Rest with God, Charlie, your 

911
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,320
fight is over. 
Ours is just beginning. 

912
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,040
What? 
Do you think? 

913
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,320
Nick and I are on the same page 
in the print in the handle 

914
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,680
handle here. 
When I LED my team of 

915
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,960
interrogators, I made them watch
the beheading videos and make 

916
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:14,880
them understand this is who you 
are fighting. 

917
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:19,240
You need to understand that. 
Look, some of us are seated at 

918
00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:21,560
the table that God sent us here 
to flip over. 

919
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,680
OK? 
You need to stand up and flip 

920
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:24,640
the table over. 
I don't. 

921
00:44:24,720 --> 00:44:26,720
I'm not espousing violence. 
I'm not saying what that 

922
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:28,120
flipping over is going to look 
like. 

923
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:32,320
But you need to stand up because
you were not sent here just to 

924
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,880
sit down and be comfortable. 
Christianity was never about 

925
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:40,400
being comfortable. 
So nature abhors a vacuum. 

926
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Yet the assassination of Charlie
Kirk opened up a chasm. 

927
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:48,880
It's clear that we cannot live 
together in the same country. 

928
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,760
Personally, I want a divorce. 
I don't know what that looks 

929
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:57,280
like, but clearly we cannot live
side by side with these people 

930
00:44:57,720 --> 00:45:00,720
and they feel the same about us.
So what happens next? 

931
00:45:00,720 --> 00:45:05,040
What are we going to do? 
The ongoing question, we'll 

932
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:06,520
continue to try to answer that 
as we go on. 

933
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:07,680
I hope you'll come back and talk
about that. 

934
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:08,840
I want to do one last little 
thing. 

935
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,840
I'm going to pin you off the 
top. 

936
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,880
I saw it on on our chat. 
And I also have seen this all 

937
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,920
over social media. 
There are a ton of people that 

938
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,760
are talking about what look 
like, as far as I understand, 

939
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
members of Charlie's security 
detail that were standing behind

940
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:23,720
him during the during the the 
shooting and immediately before 

941
00:45:23,720 --> 00:45:25,800
and afterwards and they're 
touching hats and arms and 

942
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:27,680
things like that. 
Do you make anything of that 

943
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:30,480
whatsoever? 
Is that just what people do in a

944
00:45:30,480 --> 00:45:32,280
crowd and then everyone looks 
for meaning after the fact? 

945
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:34,280
Or are we looking at something 
more specific specific there? 

946
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,440
Boy, they're really grasping for
straws. 

947
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,240
They really want a conspiracy on
this. 

948
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:42,720
I mean, John Solomon posited the
other day that it was possibly a

949
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:45,280
foreign state actor that I've. 
Got that clip too. 

950
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,280
We can't help it. 
Yeah, I've got that clip too. 

951
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:53,840
I'll play that in a second. 
Yeah, it's just, again, put all 

952
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:56,680
your biases aside. 
I understand that's hard. 

953
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:01,960
Just dive deep into the facts 
and, and, and go from there. 

954
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:05,200
Stop. 
Not you, but people need to stop

955
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,920
looking at, you know, the cloud 
formation or a book that came 

956
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:11,680
out on September the 9th or or 
whatever. 

957
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,120
Like I said, I'm still looking 
for the zip line that was used 

958
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,080
in Butler. 
So. 

959
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,360
That's right. 
All right, George, sobering take

960
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,680
and appreciated. 
And thanks for being my sounding

961
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:22,880
board and jumping on with me 
this morning. 

962
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,320
Take care. 
All right, buddy, all right, 

963
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,960
folks, so I'm going to play you 
that thing that you just talked 

964
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,160
about. 
He alluded to John Solomon. 

965
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,520
John Solomon has said that there
may be a foreign Intel Nexus. 

966
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,920
Again, all of this stuff is 
click baity to me. 

967
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,960
That's what it looks like. 
It looks like people trying to 

968
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,000
sell their next interview. 
It looks like people trying to 

969
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,480
sell their next story. 
It looks like stay tuned for 

970
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,760
more because you don't know the 
half of it yet and the half of 

971
00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,360
it is never revealed. 
I the odds of a foreign Intel 

972
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:48,840
Nexus for some kid in in Utah is
basically none. 

973
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,520
Here's like this like loose 
allusion to some sort of foreign

974
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,680
intelligence version. 
I have a source in in the 

975
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:57,600
intelligence community, John, 
that said that there might be 

976
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,160
post assassination pieces of a 
puzzle that might be put 

977
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,200
together, that there might be a 
foreign component to it. 

978
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,520
Again, we don't know for sure. 
I know it's being discussed. 

979
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:15,080
Have you heard the same thing? 
Yes, there is a group or two of 

980
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,440
interest that are in the Salt 
Lake City area that they're 

981
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,920
looking at just because of 
certain recent activities 

982
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,120
overseas and certain 
intelligence shared by a 

983
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,360
foreign. 
Friendly from the United States 

984
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,560
doesn't necessarily mean that it
is connected to the shooting. 

985
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,680
I suspect though, it's going to 
result in some action even if 

986
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,680
it's not resulted. 
Not tied to the shooting, but 

987
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,440
there. 
Is a a small foreign component 

988
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:38,760
that's being looked at. 
Again, all leads are open. 

989
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:41,240
I don't think they've locked 
into a final theory of the case 

990
00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,320
yet. 
Yeah, and that was last night. 

991
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,320
Then, of course, today you've 
got someone supposedly in 

992
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:49,160
custody per Donald Trump, the 
president, which seems like that

993
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,880
would be as good a source as 
you're going to be able to get 

994
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:51,960
out of our government at the 
moment. 

995
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:55,560
These people are all like, yeah,
make sure, make sure you tune in

996
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,400
for the next episode of Hannity 
where we say the word might 11 

997
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,160
times. 
And then also introduce the 

998
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,920
possibility of something very 
salacious like foreign 

999
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,520
intelligence, because everybody 
wants to sell their their 

1000
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:06,800
audience and their attention 
span thing. 

1001
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:09,840
I I don't need that in my life. 
And I just you watch these 

1002
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,880
people and you've watched a a 
long and ongoing pattern of 

1003
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,320
folks that immediately move on 
to the next story and act like 

1004
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,440
the thing they said a few 
minutes ago didn't actually 

1005
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,200
happen. 
They completely, they completely

1006
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
divorced themselves from the 
past, which is something that 

1007
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:26,880
reminds me of Kamala Harris. 
It's that same sort of like 

1008
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:28,160
they're unburdened by what has 
been. 

1009
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,800
It doesn't matter that they said
something different 48 hours 

1010
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:31,920
ago. 
It doesn't matter that they've 

1011
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,360
made some claims that nobody's 
going to substantiate or that 

1012
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,360
they've sort of insinuated the 
claim because that's what it 

1013
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,320
really comes down to. 
And then if you go, hey, how 

1014
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:39,440
come you don't say things that 
are true? 

1015
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,120
They just go, well, like, well, 
I didn't say that it was true. 

1016
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:43,800
I said it might be true or that 
sources have said it without 

1017
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,160
quoting them. 
I think that's, I think that's 

1018
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,960
troubling, especially when the 
sources are very dubious and the

1019
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,360
sources are people that have a 
very vested political interest. 

1020
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,680
The folks that are going to talk
to a John Solomon are not the 

1021
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,600
same kind of people in law 
enforcement on the ground level 

1022
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:57,600
that are going to talk to look 
at me or talk to George. 

1023
00:48:57,600 --> 00:48:59,920
So whatever that's worth. 
That's the information out 

1024
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,160
there. 
Again, you know, John Solomon 

1025
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,920
specifically told me that he was
going to get Gerardo Boyle's 

1026
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,400
story on Tucker Carlson, that he
was in negotiation with Tucker 

1027
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,000
Carlson's producers and he lied 
about it straight out. 

1028
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:13,320
Then he told me the backup plan 
was they were going to get it on

1029
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,560
CBS so we could have a a sort of
a left-leaning center leaning 

1030
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,920
group to talk about it. 
And so that was going to be a 

1031
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,240
setup and that was a lie. 
And then finally he came to me 

1032
00:49:21,240 --> 00:49:22,760
and said, I can get you 2 
minutes on Hannity. 

1033
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:25,440
When I tell you that John 
Solomon specifically lied to my 

1034
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,400
face, that is a very specific 
lie that he has told me. 

1035
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,800
So when I look at guys like 
that, I just go, no. 

1036
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,360
He also was the editor, by the 
way, of The Washington Times. 

1037
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,760
When they decided to stop using 
things like gay marriage in air 

1038
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,280
quotes, he stopped using other 
things like they stopped using 

1039
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,920
the word homosexual and he moved
to the more sort of AP style 

1040
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,440
where they refer to gay. 
There's a lot of things that are

1041
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:46,560
interesting about John Solomon. 
He's definitely followed like 

1042
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,120
where where the where the the 
the broadest spectrum of 

1043
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,080
audience is and not necessarily 
a principles. 

1044
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,960
It's my assessment on it from 
looking at his his past and his 

1045
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,880
history and obviously the time 
that we spent together. 

1046
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,440
Give you one last little piece. 
This is comedy. 

1047
00:49:59,440 --> 00:50:01,360
And then we'll kind of move into
a different segment here talking

1048
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,560
about a little bit of some 
current news that I think is 

1049
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,520
also not being talked about by a
lot of folks. 

1050
00:50:05,720 --> 00:50:07,640
This is George Carlin talking 
about something quite a while 

1051
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,200
ago. 
It's it's a good parallel 

1052
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:13,240
because we are now in a time if 
assassinations are on the table 

1053
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,600
and July of 2024 told us that 
they are and this week as well. 

1054
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:22,120
It's not a great time period 
historically when they start, 

1055
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,320
when people start going and 
using violence against those who

1056
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:25,760
are peaceful. 
Assassination. 

1057
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,280
You know what's interesting 
about assassination? 

1058
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,880
Well, not only does it change 
those popularity polls in a big 

1059
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:36,400
fucking hurry, well, it's also 
interesting to notice who it is 

1060
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:38,280
we assassinate. 
Do you ever notice who it is? 

1061
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:39,920
Stop to think of who it is we 
kill. 

1062
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,160
It's always people who've told 
us to live together in harmony 

1063
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,120
and try to love one another. 
Jesus, Gandhi, Lincoln, John 

1064
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,920
Kennedy, Bobby Kennedy, Martin 
Luther King, Medgar Evers, 

1065
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,040
Malcolm X, John Lennon, They all
said try to live together 

1066
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,280
peacefully. 
Bam, right in the fucking head. 

1067
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,040
It's just a, it's a reflection 
of, of a certain time and how 

1068
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,480
tolerant and when people are 
effective, as Charlie, as Nick 

1069
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,640
Frida said the other day, when 
they're effective, then they 

1070
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,360
become the target. 
We're going to take a quick 

1071
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,360
break here. 
For those of you that are 

1072
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,800
listening on the audio platform,
you may hear a an ad from 

1073
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,320
Spotify at this point. 
And then we're going to go to a 

1074
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:21,040
guest segment here with with 
Skip Holtz. 

1075
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,480
We're going to do a quick guest 
segment right now. 

1076
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,320
One of the things that I do know
is I know my limitations and I 

1077
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:27,520
know the things that I don't 
know. 

1078
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,000
And what I don't know is a lot 
about cyber and I definitely 

1079
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,800
don't know a ton about that sort
of world where I mean, I'm a 

1080
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,240
little bit of a geek or a nerd 
if you will. 

1081
00:51:35,240 --> 00:51:38,560
But when it comes to AI and the 
threats that face us there, I 

1082
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:40,440
start tuning out when people 
start talking about deep web, 

1083
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:43,240
dark web, Tor routers and so on.
So I've got Skip Holtz, he is 

1084
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,880
one of the sponsors of our 
program and he's also one of the

1085
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Co founders of Patriot Protect. 
We're going to be getting into a

1086
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:49,880
little discussion. 
He sent me a couple articles 

1087
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,520
that would kind of keep us up to
date this year, kind of year to 

1088
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:53,680
date. 
We're going to do a survey. 

1089
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,520
The first one, Skip, is from 
Cyberscoop. 

1090
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,280
What the heck is Cyberscoop? 
Oh, geez, Cyber Scoop is just, 

1091
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:02,880
you know, an industry trade 
magazine that keeps, keeps their

1092
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,440
ear to the ground to the comings
and goings that's going on with 

1093
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,800
data breaches and, and you know,
the, the advances that are being

1094
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,400
made by, you know, these AI 
companies. 

1095
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:16,000
And we're seeing a lot of that 
now the the rate of acceleration

1096
00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:20,040
with AI, it's capabilities and 
how they're being weaponized 

1097
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,360
against us both, you know, not 
just like in the workplace and 

1098
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:28,760
replacing people, but also being
used by bad actors, state level 

1099
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,240
actors, good old fashioned 
scammers and cyber criminals to 

1100
00:52:33,240 --> 00:52:35,480
make sure that they take what's 
in your pocket. 

1101
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,080
Basically is what it really 
comes down to. 

1102
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,040
You know, I don't, I don't know 
that there's a, you know, a, a, 

1103
00:52:40,280 --> 00:52:44,320
a grudge or, you know, some sort
of, you know, an existential, 

1104
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,280
you know, axe to grind that they
have in, in kind of cyber 

1105
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:49,840
criminals. 
That's more of a, Hey, let's 

1106
00:52:49,840 --> 00:52:53,240
just make sure that we take your
money and take your, you know, 

1107
00:52:53,240 --> 00:52:56,040
take your family's money. 
And also there's the, the 

1108
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,240
weaponization from state level 
actors like China, Iran, Russia,

1109
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,840
which we know is being 
weaponized against us. 

1110
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:07,840
Both of our like security grids,
our, you know, our, anything 

1111
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,800
that we use to make this country
stable is being poked, prodded 

1112
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,800
and tested like velociraptors on
the and the perimeter in 

1113
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,360
Jurassic Park. 
That's that's really what's 

1114
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:18,960
going on right now. 
You know, I like a good new 

1115
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,760
movie reference. 
OK, so I'm going to read real 

1116
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:22,640
quickly. 
The headline here, says Wiz 

1117
00:53:22,720 --> 00:53:26,640
researchers find sensitive deep 
sake data that's exposing to 

1118
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,160
things to the Internet. 
They're talking about simple SQL

1119
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:31,080
searches, which we can talk 
about what that looks like and 

1120
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,160
what those are. 
Essentially, they're talking 

1121
00:53:33,160 --> 00:53:36,400
about the Chinese intelligence 
for the artificial intelligence 

1122
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,360
firm known as DeepSeek. 
I think a lot of people probably

1123
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,240
heard that but don't necessarily
know what that means or who they

1124
00:53:41,240 --> 00:53:43,560
are. 
And as I understand it, and you 

1125
00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:46,280
can correct me if I'm wrong 
here, when we used to work the 

1126
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,000
intelligence threat against 
China, we always thought of them

1127
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,360
as being kind of like a vacuum 
cleaner. 

1128
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,640
They would go in and grab 
unlimited amounts of anything, 

1129
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,760
whatever it was. 
They would collect on state 

1130
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,680
actors, They would collect on 
people that were in private 

1131
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,800
industry, anybody that might be 
interesting to them later. 

1132
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,320
And then because storage is so 
cheap, they would grab it. 

1133
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,360
It sounds like they're also 
doing that maybe for private 

1134
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:07,360
pivot data, kind of kind of walk
people through maybe if you 

1135
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,600
would, what DeepSeek is and then
what threat that represents 

1136
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,840
maybe to their pocketbook, if 
you will. 

1137
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,240
Yeah, absolutely. 
The the Hangzhou DeepSeek 

1138
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,600
artificial intelligence basic 
technology Research Company 

1139
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,200
Limited is the the full name of 
it DeepSeek for short. 

1140
00:54:21,520 --> 00:54:24,960
That's a good name, frankly. 
And and it and it really says 

1141
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,200
that. 
I mean, this is a, it came out 

1142
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:32,040
of seemingly nowhere in January 
to say like, Hey, this is on the

1143
00:54:32,080 --> 00:54:36,320
on the public facing level. 
This is going to be a competitor

1144
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:40,360
in the global space of AI 
against, you know, open AI and, 

1145
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:43,320
and, and you know, the other 
competitors, perplexity and 

1146
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:45,280
stuff that are that are in 
America. 

1147
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:50,880
Of course, we know that China is
always one step behind the 

1148
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:54,800
initiation, but one step ahead 
of the execution. 

1149
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,640
A lot of the times of American 
technology companies like with, 

1150
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,440
you know, with, with social 
media, their, their TikTok and 

1151
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,680
you know, with chip 
manufacturers and stuff, this 

1152
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:06,320
is, there's just this constant 
battle. 

1153
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,080
This is what the battleground 
looks like in the 21st century 

1154
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,520
of, you know, this kind of tech 
Cold War that's going on 

1155
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:15,560
between, between America and 
China. 

1156
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:21,040
And So what they're using on the
kind of state level side, it is 

1157
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,000
to exactly as you described, 
just kind of like cast a wide 

1158
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,040
net, a dragnet sort of thing, 
like where you just scrape an 

1159
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,520
enormous amount of data, hold on
to it, and then see what of it 

1160
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,360
might be of use in the in the 
future. 

1161
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:39,000
And So what they're doing, and 
this was something that came out

1162
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,720
in in August, was that a group 
of seven Republican senators 

1163
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,320
came together to say like, hey, 
we need to look into this. 

1164
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,600
What is the, what is the 
potential data security 

1165
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,680
vulnerability posed by these 
Chinese AI models? 

1166
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:56,920
And, and they're, they, they 
haven't developed any teeth to 

1167
00:55:56,960 --> 00:55:58,640
it yet. 
But the fact that they're 

1168
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:02,680
looking into this is, I think in
a very encouraging step that I 

1169
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,600
think, you know, that our 
government should be taking 

1170
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:09,680
because, you know, if left on, 
you know, unchallenged, it will 

1171
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,720
continue to get smarter every 
day, as is our AI. 

1172
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:15,440
But again, that's the, this is 
the Cold War aspect of it. 

1173
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,920
It is being weaponized privately
again, you know, for the state 

1174
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,840
level, sort of for the state 
level sort of stuff. 

1175
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:27,160
But because it's so opaque and 
because we don't know, you know,

1176
00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:31,320
exactly what they're using it 
for, it can be used for, you 

1177
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,480
know, cyber criminals or, or 
the, the, the scam world, you 

1178
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:40,000
know, for a tool for hire, just 
like any other thing to match up

1179
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:44,200
the, the dragnet information 
that they pick up to match that,

1180
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,320
you know, what the, what the 
cyber criminals and scammers do,

1181
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:49,600
especially in that part of the 
world, which you talked about in

1182
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,960
Southeast Asia. 
And these kind of like scam 

1183
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:56,720
farms that exist and match that 
up with the publicly available 

1184
00:56:56,720 --> 00:57:00,240
data that's out there that 
American data brokers publish 

1185
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:01,520
about you. 
They, they do it. 

1186
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:05,200
They offer it as a tool, you 
know, for hire like any other 

1187
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,160
place. 
And you know, these people 

1188
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,040
search sites like Yellow Pages, 
true people search fast, people 

1189
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:15,640
search new number. 
You know, there's always there's

1190
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,360
hundreds of them out there, 
which is This is why we exist. 

1191
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,760
And so, you know, they match the
cyber criminals, match up those 

1192
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,600
leaked Social Security numbers, 
those leaked things that are 

1193
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,320
available on the, on the the 
dark web and match it up with 

1194
00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:33,840
what's publicly available so 
that they can build a profile 

1195
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:36,760
about, you see, which juice is 
worth the squeeze. 

1196
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,760
That is to say, who is the most 
which, which person in America 

1197
00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:44,040
is the most exposed and has the 
most to lose, and then weaponize

1198
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,240
the AI tools to target you very,
very deliberately. 

1199
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:51,080
And they can do so at scale 
because of these, because of 

1200
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:52,840
these. 
I guess that's what I'm seeing 

1201
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:53,960
too. 
So I'm reading through this and 

1202
00:57:53,960 --> 00:57:56,160
these are obviously not 
publications I deal with. 

1203
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,160
They're probably things that you
look at Cyberscoop and and CNET.

1204
00:57:59,160 --> 00:58:01,040
I've I've looked at them 
occasionally, but not not 

1205
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:02,840
recently. 
And so I'm seeing that they are 

1206
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,600
basically identifying 2 non 
standard ports and then going in

1207
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,120
and researchers are essentially 
trying to do probe for 

1208
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,440
vulnerabilities only to find out
that in fact, there are 

1209
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000
vulnerabilities and that they're
using sequel queries, which are 

1210
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,400
just numbers and database 
queries and they're pulling the 

1211
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,920
stuff out. 
So we've got actors like, we'll 

1212
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,360
call them enemy actors or threat
actors like China. 

1213
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:25,160
I see they're also mentioning I 
Israeli cybersecurity. 

1214
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,920
My understanding was the 
Israelis were always that kind 

1215
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:29,440
of the head of the, the game 
when it came to cyber warfare 

1216
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:32,280
and cyber weapon systems. 
So you've got the, a firm called

1217
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,680
Cala that's doing that. 
And and so these guys are what 

1218
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:37,760
they're they're out there trying
to red sell this and and and 

1219
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,200
make sure that databases are are
good and then finding out that 

1220
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:43,440
they're not. 
Yeah, I mean, look the the the 

1221
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,480
analogy that I gave earlier 
about the velociraptors checking

1222
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:48,920
for weaknesses in the in the 
electrified perimeters. 

1223
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:50,800
Basically the I use it for a 
reason. 

1224
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:54,040
It, it gives a very good 
descriptor to show that, you 

1225
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:56,160
know, this is how they do it. 
They test for weaknesses. 

1226
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,480
They're constantly scraping 
constantly, you know, poking at 

1227
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,600
different just just see where 
there's a hole and see where 

1228
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,000
there's a tear and see where 
they can get through. 

1229
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,520
That's exactly correct. 
And you know, the sequel thing, 

1230
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,960
I mean, that's just, you know, 
it's just, it's a computer way 

1231
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:14,000
of asking a question and getting
A and getting, you know, a set 

1232
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:17,640
of data back. 
And sometimes the sequel query 

1233
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:21,200
asks a question and what they 
get back is an enormous profile 

1234
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,360
of people. 
I mean, this is, you know, in 

1235
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,640
this particular breach, there 
was also, you know, a huge 

1236
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:29,680
amount of private information, 
like, like, like messages 

1237
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:33,880
between people. 
There was, there was a, just to 

1238
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:37,360
give you an example of like how 
insidious this can be, there was

1239
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:42,120
an app called the T app TEA and 
it's, you know, it's like a, so 

1240
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,680
people can swap information 
about people that they're 

1241
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:46,520
dating. 
Yeah, we we talked about this. 

1242
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,320
This was like a digital mean 
girl time. 

1243
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Yeah, it's exactly right. 
And, but and so and that's 

1244
00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:54,600
that's cute. 
It's funny until you're, until 

1245
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:58,080
those private conversations get 
into the hands of, of DeepSeek 

1246
00:59:58,080 --> 01:00:02,440
and, and an AI tool, because 
then it can be used at scale. 

1247
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:05,280
And that that's the thing that I
really want to, to explain. 

1248
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,160
Like any, if I had, if I had an 
axe to grind on a person, like I

1249
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,840
could spend hours and try to 
figure it out and look them up 

1250
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,360
and, and try to try to figure 
this out. 

1251
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:16,880
And it would take me a long 
time. 

1252
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,920
But you know, it's like, you 
know, you know, we're, we are as

1253
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:24,240
a species, humans are very good 
at walking and we're some of the

1254
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,840
most, you know, the, the most 
efficient per calorie to go 

1255
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:30,160
distance. 
Until you introduce a bicycle 

1256
01:00:30,800 --> 01:00:34,360
and then we can just go an 
insane distance and cover just 

1257
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,640
an enormous amount with a, a, a 
tiny drop of calories. 

1258
01:00:38,080 --> 01:00:39,960
That's what this AI is doing, 
right? 

1259
01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:44,080
It's just making it magnitudes 
easier in in a way. 

1260
01:00:44,080 --> 01:00:47,480
And, and I think we mentioned 
this last time we're on, it's 

1261
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,520
like, you know, we think 
everybody's, you know, these 

1262
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,960
cyber tools are being used and 
we think of them as bows and 

1263
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:54,480
arrows, but they've moved on to 
gunpowder and now we're seeing 

1264
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,040
this nuclear fission. 
It's, it's really crazy how just

1265
01:00:58,040 --> 01:01:02,240
quickly the acceleration of 
capacity and ability is. 

1266
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:07,160
And so, you know, we, as you 
know, the, the America as a 

1267
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,440
government is saying, you know, 
what can we do to combat this? 

1268
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:15,360
And then we as a consumers have 
to say, what are we doing 

1269
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,280
individually, using our 
individual responsibility to 

1270
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,920
keep ourselves and our families 
safe? 

1271
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,280
What are we doing? 
What are the arrows in our 

1272
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,520
quiver that we're making sure to
keep ourselves safe? 

1273
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:27,120
You put a lock on your door, 
right? 

1274
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:29,080
You lock it every night for a 
reason. 

1275
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:32,120
What are you doing for your 
digital identity? 

1276
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,920
Is the question. 
Yeah, so unplanned Segway, but 

1277
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,400
this, this is an article that 
you sent over here from Cyber 

1278
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:38,920
News. 
And by the way, I absolutely 

1279
01:01:38,920 --> 01:01:41,920
love their graphic. 
This is really, really probably 

1280
01:01:41,920 --> 01:01:44,000
made with AI too. 
Think of that too. 

1281
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:46,320
Right. 
So it's got a, it's AT&T's logo 

1282
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,080
and it's chained up and of 
course it's gotten unchanged. 

1283
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:50,920
So a fresh data breach. 
What, what I told our, our 

1284
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:53,200
audience is that the, the next 
time that we see like one of 

1285
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,120
these big data breaches, and 
they seem to happen every either

1286
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,200
a couple weeks or a couple 
months that we'd come in and 

1287
01:01:57,200 --> 01:02:00,320
have a discussion about it. 
So AT&T has a data breach says 

1288
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,280
impacts 24,000,000 users. 
And and of course, we can't even

1289
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,160
fathom what 24 million people 
means. 

1290
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Do you want to kind of walk 
through what the data breach 

1291
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:10,960
was, what was exposed and like 
what that leaves people 

1292
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:14,960
vulnerable for whether they had 
to be AT&T customers or, you 

1293
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,400
know, I guess I'm an AT&T 
customer. 

1294
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,520
I got fiber so maybe I am too. 
Yeah. 

1295
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:23,600
Look, so this is an update from 
what happened in 2024, which was

1296
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:28,360
a massive data breach of 86 
million AT&T customers. 

1297
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:32,560
What this is showing is that 
basically someone says, you 

1298
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,920
know, on these kind of hacker 
forums is saying that these 

1299
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,600
attackers say, hey, we have, we,
we poked and prodded it at AT&T,

1300
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:46,280
we found a vulnerability and we 
now have up for sale 24,000,000 

1301
01:02:46,280 --> 01:02:49,920
individuals information. 
Now, unfortunately for those 24 

1302
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,240
million people, this includes 
their phone numbers, the names, 

1303
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,280
the city and state where they're
from, their device types, their 

1304
01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:58,800
registration dates, their SIM 
IDs. 

1305
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:04,040
And unfortunately, this also has
included unencrypted Social 

1306
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:07,680
Security numbers. 
And so again, you know, the 

1307
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:12,840
remember the Equifax breach in 
2017, this which was like 

1308
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,640
through T-Mobile, this allowed 
for it was basically every 

1309
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:19,840
American taxpayers information 
was breached and it was a 

1310
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,800
massive, you know, class action 
lawsuit that came as a result. 

1311
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:27,480
So now here's another 
124,000,000 individuals that had

1312
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,760
their information leaked. 
What does that mean? 

1313
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:31,040
Well. 
You know, I was going to say, am

1314
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,080
I crazy? 
But SIM ID cards, does that mean

1315
01:03:33,080 --> 01:03:35,280
they could probably spoof or 
clone your phone and pretend to 

1316
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:38,720
be you legitimately and go try 
to open things up using your 

1317
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,520
actual phone number from your 
actual phone? 

1318
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,040
Yes. 
And you know, when you think 

1319
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:46,800
about two factor authentication 
to get into your e-mail, you 

1320
01:03:46,800 --> 01:03:49,560
know your, your medical data, 
you know your, your medical 

1321
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,600
records with your, your doctor. 
I mean, everything that you get 

1322
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:57,680
a text message for to allow 
access to your account, they can

1323
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:01,400
now do that, right? 
They, the SIM spoofing thing is 

1324
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:05,720
a, a really helpful tool for 
cyber for, for cyber criminals 

1325
01:04:06,040 --> 01:04:08,600
to get in and get access to your
accounts. 

1326
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,680
Yes, that's exactly correct. 
Yeah, 2 factor. 

1327
01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680
And so what's funny is I'm 
looking at this article right 

1328
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:13,920
here. 
And again, this is coming from 

1329
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,240
not a standard news site for me,
but cyber news. 

1330
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,200
And right in the middle of it, 
they're out there, they're 

1331
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,960
pitching data, breaching it. 
Was your data breached And this 

1332
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:22,840
is something that you guys do. 
Obviously there's obviously 

1333
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,480
other companies out there doing 
it, but good ad placement for 

1334
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:28,320
those guys I guess too, because 
I'm really going, you know, I 

1335
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,400
mean, the question is, you know,
was my dad elite? 

1336
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:33,440
How do I find out? 
One of our products is our 

1337
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,720
blackout product, which is we go
onto the dark web and we see 

1338
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:40,160
what of you has been put up for 
sale, right? 

1339
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:45,280
And to see when and what was 
exposed and to see how long it's

1340
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:47,840
been out there and show your 
exposure basically. 

1341
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,320
Do you have any sense of what 
people pay per identity? 

1342
01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:52,800
I mean, are they paying dollars 
or are they paying pennies or 

1343
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:54,920
what does this look? 
Like I think, I think in some 

1344
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,600
cases it's fractions of pennies.
I mean, really it's, it's cheap.

1345
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,040
No, really. 
I mean, because of the, the 

1346
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,760
amount that that is. 
I mean if there's for instance 

1347
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:05,640
in this case there's 24,000,000,
you know they're not going to 

1348
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:07,960
get a buck per person. 
There's nothing, you know, some 

1349
01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:11,080
whoever did this isn't going to 
be get paid $24,000,000 because 

1350
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:16,760
each person, you know, depending
on what gets targeted, you know,

1351
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,840
how much are you going to get 
out of that individual, right? 

1352
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,680
How many of those 24 million 
people are susceptible to pig 

1353
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:23,880
butchering scams? 
Right? 

1354
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:26,760
When you, when you get a text 
message and saying, hey, it's 

1355
01:05:26,760 --> 01:05:30,640
Lisa still up for a lunch date. 
And then you respond saying this

1356
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,240
isn't Lisa. 
And they say, oh, sorry about 

1357
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:35,360
that. 
Hey, my name's Allison. 

1358
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:36,960
What's your name? 
And then that's how you get 

1359
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,040
roped in. 
Then they say, actually, can we 

1360
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:42,120
move to WhatsApp? 
You change pro, you change, you 

1361
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,600
know, platforms. 
That's how they get you on the 

1362
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,520
hook. 
And the pig butchering scam is 

1363
01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,720
basically the the euphemism is 
you know they fatten you up 

1364
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,880
before they go in for the kill. 
This is like a like a romance 

1365
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:53,880
scam like you hear people 
getting and they just target 

1366
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,880
people that are lonely or. 
Looking for friends that is 

1367
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,120
frankly their easiest one, but 
the other one is saying like, 

1368
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:03,240
hey listen, I've been a Bitcoin 
investor for a long time you 

1369
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:06,440
want to Chuck in 10 bucks and 
then they'll show you and then 

1370
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:09,480
they'll show you hey, you 
actually turn that 10 bucks into

1371
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:12,880
25 do you want to put in 100 and
we can make it 2500, you know, 

1372
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,400
or you know or 250 this is how 
it. 

1373
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:17,960
Is a classic hustle. 
A classic hustle. 

1374
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,280
And the reality is, is that, you
know, it's not every single 

1375
01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:23,920
person that's listening to this 
has gotten one of those text 

1376
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,960
messages. 
And maybe some people have, have

1377
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,800
interacted with them and have 
come in, you know, a hair away 

1378
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:32,560
from getting pulled into that. 
Or maybe you're listening. 

1379
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,040
And I, I'm sorry to hear if it's
happened to you, but like you've

1380
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,800
fallen, fallen scammed to this. 
The reality is this is that in 

1381
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:42,000
our lifetimes, we will the, the 
statistically we will fall 

1382
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,480
victim to one of these scams. 
And So what is the information 

1383
01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:48,760
that's out there available to 
these cyber criminals to target 

1384
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:52,520
you and know that, you know, the
more insidious thing is that 

1385
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,160
with these AI tools, they, and 
they're pulling your name, your 

1386
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:57,480
address there. 
Therefore they can go on these 

1387
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,680
people search sites and see your
relatives names. 

1388
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,520
And then if there's any way to, 
to get a sample of your 

1389
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:08,200
relatives names, your relative's
voice, for instance, from a 

1390
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,680
YouTube video that they find 
about you or something like 

1391
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:14,640
that, they can clone that, call 
you up and say, hey grandma, I'm

1392
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:19,600
stuck and, and I need, you know,
50 bucks to get out of a jam I'm

1393
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720
in or something like that. 
That's real too. 

1394
01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:23,840
They used to do those in the 
Indian Reservation all the time.

1395
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,240
And you, you, you know this. 
I mean this. 

1396
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,240
Is yeah, no, it's crazy and it's
just getting. 

1397
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,880
Worse, it works. 
So again, you know, the question

1398
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,120
you have to ask yourself is what
are you doing to protect 

1399
01:07:33,120 --> 01:07:34,920
yourself to make sure that this 
doesn't happen? 

1400
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:37,000
Yeah. 
So to answer your question 

1401
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:39,960
about, you know, of the the, you
know, how much is they paid for?

1402
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,960
It depends. 
It depends on the, you know, 

1403
01:07:43,480 --> 01:07:47,360
what the other side of the 
equation of is that they can 

1404
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,160
match it up to. 
And the reality is, if they've 

1405
01:07:49,160 --> 01:07:51,840
got your name and address, they 
can look you up on these people,

1406
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:54,880
search sites and build a profile
on you to know whether or not 

1407
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,560
you're good to be targeted. 
And the odds are it's probably 

1408
01:07:57,560 --> 01:07:59,720
embarrassingly low for the 
amount of frustration or danger 

1409
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:01,200
that it leaves you financially, 
I'm guessing. 

1410
01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:03,480
Totally agree. 
I'm going to switch over to this

1411
01:08:03,480 --> 01:08:05,240
last here story and this is 
another one CNET. 

1412
01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:07,000
That one's a little bit more 
familiar to me, but not 

1413
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,440
something I troll regularly. 
And they have this is from, it 

1414
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,280
was like yesterday or day 
before. 

1415
01:08:12,400 --> 01:08:15,880
So this is real recent folks. 
This is like September 2025. 

1416
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,080
We're talking about 4.4 million 
exposed in the credit Bureau 

1417
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,399
breach. 
This is TransUnion specifically 

1418
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,600
and an accompanying waves that 
were hitting Salesforce, which 

1419
01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:29,640
is a massive consumer tool for 
keeping track of all the the 

1420
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:30,760
types of people you might sell 
to. 

1421
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,160
What do they call that? 
A CRMA customer management 

1422
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:34,840
relationship tool. 
Exactly that. 

1423
01:08:34,960 --> 01:08:35,960
Exactly. 
All right. 

1424
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:37,359
So what, what, what is exposed 
there? 

1425
01:08:37,359 --> 01:08:39,720
It looks like, I mean it seems 
like our credit scores have or 

1426
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:41,800
our credit bureaus have 
everything on us, including 

1427
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,800
things you don't even remember, 
like who your mortgage company 

1428
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:47,680
was 20 years ago. 
Yeah, so super embarrassing for 

1429
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:51,920
Salesforce at the least. 
But yeah, I mean, in a filing 

1430
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,080
from Texas, it shows that the 
names, Social Security numbers 

1431
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:58,160
and birth dates were exposed in 
this breach. 

1432
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,960
And, you know, we're seeing a 
lot of this now. 

1433
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:04,760
Again, you know, the, the amount
of information that is 

1434
01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:09,880
constantly leaked on you is, is 
really hard to even fathom. 

1435
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,120
I mean, it's just, it's, it's, 
it's so big, it's hard to get 

1436
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:15,960
your head around. 
But the reality is, is that it's

1437
01:09:16,319 --> 01:09:18,479
you. 
You are exposed unless you take 

1438
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:21,840
measures to to to lock down your
information. 

1439
01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:26,880
This is a 4.4 million is frankly
small compared to a lot of the 

1440
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:30,319
other breaches that we've seen, 
but this happened yesterday 

1441
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:32,800
that's. 
Only what they know about it. 

1442
01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:34,240
Yeah, that's what they know 
about it right now, I'm 

1443
01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:36,000
guessing. 
Exactly. 

1444
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:39,000
And it was, and this was only 
this only, of course, TransUnion

1445
01:09:39,160 --> 01:09:41,520
wants to squelch to this. 
And the only reason that we have

1446
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,960
this information were because of
these state filings A and main 

1447
01:09:45,279 --> 01:09:48,960
that showed that, yeah, OK, it 
started out them saying, yes, 

1448
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,080
turns out there was unauthorized
access. 

1449
01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:55,480
And then in the filing in Texas,
it says, actually it was, you 

1450
01:09:55,480 --> 01:09:57,760
know, the name, Social Security 
numbers and birth dates from the

1451
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,800
breach. 
This is news fresh as of 

1452
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,480
yesterday. 
So what we're going to see in 

1453
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:04,760
the coming weeks and months may 
be vastly worse than that. 

1454
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:09,240
Never been a better time to 
bolster your your personal 

1455
01:10:09,240 --> 01:10:11,200
cybersecurity? 
That's so terrible. 

1456
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,120
Yeah, I get all these updates 
from people and it's like, I 

1457
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,280
didn't ask TransUnion to monitor
any. 

1458
01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,440
I didn't ask Equifax or any of 
these experion to, like, keep 

1459
01:10:18,440 --> 01:10:20,240
track of me. 
They do it anyway 'cause they're

1460
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,320
they're, you know, selling a 
product to banks and to 

1461
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,520
insurance companies and sales 
and so on. 

1462
01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:26,520
And then you find out like, not 
only are they keeping all your 

1463
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,920
stuff, but they're not really 
doing a good job with it. 

1464
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,640
That's not a good feeling at 
all. 

1465
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,720
And again, like every company's 
involved. 

1466
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:38,680
Google Farmers, Pandora Music, 
Cisco, if you have network 

1467
01:10:38,680 --> 01:10:42,040
architecture, Chanel, like 
there's a huge number of these 

1468
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:44,080
companies that are out there. 
Looks like they're implicated in

1469
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:45,280
this. 
The sales force hit. 

1470
01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:49,680
Oh, some of the ones we see a 
lot in in the the blackout, our 

1471
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:53,120
blackout product again, we we re
scrape the the dark web to see 

1472
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,280
what's out there on you. 
It's like random stuff. 

1473
01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:58,400
Marriott hotels was a big one if
you ever stayed at a Marriott 

1474
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:01,240
their entire. 
So we see that those hits in a 

1475
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:04,480
lot of people's reports. 
My Fitness Pal was one of the 

1476
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,440
most famous ones. 
You know, everyone just wanted 

1477
01:11:06,440 --> 01:11:09,760
to lose a couple pounds, man. 
And then then they've had this 

1478
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:10,680
stuff. 
It's. 

1479
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,120
Always these companies that 
they're offering you a product 

1480
01:11:13,120 --> 01:11:15,280
for nothing and you realize that
you're actually the product. 

1481
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,080
What was it that there was a 
comedian that did this whole bit

1482
01:11:17,080 --> 01:11:19,280
about it where he's like, I'm 
not going to sign up and give 

1483
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,640
you my phone number when I go to
my grocery store because I don't

1484
01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:24,560
need to send, you know, save 
$0.20 on bootleg fruit lips, you

1485
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:26,520
know, in a month. 
I just know you're, I know you 

1486
01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:28,200
want more than to give me 
something for free. 

1487
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:29,880
All they want to do is track 
your data and then they go. 

1488
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,520
Then they go. 
Lose it half the time, yes. 

1489
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,560
When when your product when the 
product is free, you're the 

1490
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,800
product yeah. 
So what are the other ones we 

1491
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:40,280
see AT and TA lot of a lot of 
that and then just random 

1492
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,520
things. 
Luxottica if you ever bought if 

1493
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,440
you've keep in mind Luxottica is
the company that produces 

1494
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:52,400
glasses, sunglasses, glasses and
they've cornered the market. 

1495
01:11:52,400 --> 01:11:54,280
They own about 90% of the 
market. 

1496
01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,960
So if you wear glasses, which, 
and, and you bought them from 

1497
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,480
Luxottica, which you don't even 
know that you did, because they 

1498
01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:04,640
have, you know, they own, you 
know, every single rights to 

1499
01:12:04,760 --> 01:12:08,080
LensCrafters and you know, all, 
everywhere that you touch that's

1500
01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:11,760
got a, some acetate frames or 
plastic frames or whatever, like

1501
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,920
they're, they're produced by 
Luxottica because they're a 

1502
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,000
monopoly. 
That's a huge breach. 

1503
01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:20,280
And most people just don't even 
know that that was a weak point 

1504
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,120
for them. 
And then they, they get our 

1505
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,840
report and they're like, Oh my 
God, this is this shows up in, 

1506
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,760
in the data. 
It's it's really embarrassing 

1507
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:29,280
just how much there is out there
available. 

1508
01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:32,040
Yeah, All right, well, I 
appreciate you jumping on with 

1509
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:33,520
me. 
Mostly whenever I look at the 

1510
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:34,960
stuff, my eyes kind of glaze 
over. 

1511
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,920
There's certain things that I 
just can't focus on because I, 

1512
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,680
there's enough bad things in the
world and I'm worried about 

1513
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,680
people physically coming through
my door and the idea of trying 

1514
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,440
to keep track of the other 
threats and, and you guys charge

1515
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:47,480
it, you know, a couple bucks a 
month. 

1516
01:12:47,480 --> 01:12:49,880
Like I said, we signed up for it
and I kind of like fired and 

1517
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:51,920
forget and it wasn't enough 
money for me to worry about it. 

1518
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:54,800
Other than, you know, no one 
scammed me yet. 

1519
01:12:54,840 --> 01:12:56,640
We'll see. 
Someone sued me for $5,000,000 

1520
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:58,680
but nobody scammed me yet. 
Sorry to hear that. 

1521
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:00,920
Look, it, it, it's right. 
I mean, you're right. 

1522
01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:04,480
It is worryingly cheap because 
it's such an easy fix. 

1523
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,480
Is the thing that's so crazy is 
that it is really a couple bucks

1524
01:13:07,480 --> 01:13:11,480
a month to know that someone is 
having your back out there on 

1525
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:14,920
the scary Internet. 
And you know, there is zero 

1526
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:19,240
reason for you to have your name
address, your relatives names, 

1527
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:22,880
your prior place of employment, 
former addresses out there on 

1528
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,600
the Internet. 
And that's why Patriot Protect 

1529
01:13:24,600 --> 01:13:27,880
exists, because, you know, most 
people don't have it because 

1530
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,160
they didn't even know it was 
something that they could do. 

1531
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:32,800
Yeah, and they probably didn't 
realize that for like 12 cents, 

1532
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:34,520
somebody will compromise all 
your data and they'll buy your 

1533
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,480
Social Security number to try to
screw you out of whatever you 

1534
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:37,560
have. 
Like, you know, they'll try to 

1535
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:38,920
take your title on your house or
something. 

1536
01:13:38,920 --> 01:13:42,200
So that's kind of wild stuff. 
All right, Skip, I appreciate 

1537
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:43,520
the update on that. 
Thanks for sending me these 

1538
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:46,200
recent articles to like I'm sure
we'll see some again and at some

1539
01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:48,680
point I'll get some background 
when the when the next wave of 

1540
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:51,360
of of not great news. 
It's the shores. 

1541
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:53,560
Buddy, I'll be here. 
I'll be hard at work. 

1542
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,800
You let me know. 
Thanks, I appreciate it. 

1543
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:30,800
Perfect. 
I muted my microphone. 

1544
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,400
How do you like that? 
I switched over to a scene that 

1545
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,880
didn't have a microphone. 
I'm so sorry about that. 

1546
01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:35,440
So there you go. 
I'll try to cut that out of the 

1547
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:39,120
live show. 
God, you can't make it up. 

1548
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,280
Too many, too many things that I
hit on the fly. 

1549
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:43,640
So here's the deal. 
Many of you were saying in the 

1550
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,680
chat as I was talking to Skip 
that you have had these same 

1551
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,840
scams perpetrated against you, 
that you've had some things 

1552
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,040
going on, like people have 
imitated voices or tried to scam

1553
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:54,320
things from your grandparents 
and so on and so forth. 

1554
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:57,520
So anyway, so all that what I 
did do during that time also was

1555
01:14:57,520 --> 01:14:58,640
I managed to grab a couple of 
clips. 

1556
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,120
This is why I have a mute. 
I was muting my mic so I could 

1557
01:15:01,120 --> 01:15:03,080
go grab clips from the press 
conference that just took place.

1558
01:15:03,080 --> 01:15:05,240
Some of you guys watched it or 
saw it on the sideline that Cash

1559
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,160
Patel and Governor Cox and some 
others were talking about this 

1560
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:12,800
recent, this recent suspect 
turning himself in in Utah. 

1561
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,600
And so I wanted to retouch on 
that. 

1562
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,160
I think I have the clips in the 
correct order. 

1563
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:17,720
I actually didn't get to listen 
to all the audio. 

1564
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:19,440
This is again, that's why I was 
muted for a second. 

1565
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:23,640
So apologies there. 
And here is the governor of 

1566
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:24,800
Utah. 
Given the first talk. 

1567
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,720
The the reason I have to play 
this is because the end of it is

1568
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,840
so insane. 
It's the craziest thing that 

1569
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,520
I've ever heard. 
In many ways, it's the probably 

1570
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,960
the dumbest way. 
Look, between announcing that 

1571
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,120
you had somebody in custody and 
then letting them off, Cash 

1572
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:39,640
decided to outdo himself again 
today. 

1573
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,560
I know that I'm, I'm very 
critical about this, but I got 

1574
01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:46,360
20 text messages from people who
just said, did our FBI director 

1575
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:47,960
really just say that? 
And if you haven't heard it yet,

1576
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:49,880
you will in a second. 
So let's start off with kind of 

1577
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,840
summary about how politics were 
involved. 

1578
01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,320
In consistent clothing with 
those surveillance images, 

1579
01:15:56,120 --> 01:15:59,200
investigators interviewed a 
family member of Robinson who 

1580
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,920
stated that Robinson had become 
more political in recent years. 

1581
01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:06,400
The family member referenced a 
recent incident in which 

1582
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:10,400
Robinson came to dinner prior to
September 10th, and in the 

1583
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:13,640
conversation with another family
member, Robinson mentioned 

1584
01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:17,680
Charlie Kirk was coming to UVU. 
They talked about why they 

1585
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:20,320
didn't like him and the 
viewpoints that he had. 

1586
01:16:20,800 --> 01:16:24,000
The family member also stated 
Kirk was full of hate and 

1587
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:26,920
spreading hate. 
The family member also confirmed

1588
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,400
Robinson had a Gray Dodge 
Challenger. 

1589
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,480
Investigators identified an 
individual as the roommate of 

1590
01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:36,080
Robinson. 
Investigators interviewed that 

1591
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:39,880
roommate who stated that his 
roommate, referring to Robinson,

1592
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:43,200
made a joke on Discord. 
Investigators asked if he would 

1593
01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:44,840
show them the messages on 
Discord. 

1594
01:16:45,080 --> 01:16:48,560
He opened it and showed several 
messages to investigators and 

1595
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:51,560
allowed investigators to take 
photos of the screen as each 

1596
01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:54,760
message. 
All right, this is the guy 

1597
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,840
they're talking about apparently
again in custody. 

1598
01:16:56,840 --> 01:16:59,120
I've got another little clip of 
there talking about we were 

1599
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:01,440
hearing initial reports that 
came out of the louder with 

1600
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:05,280
Crowder show that there were 
items written or there were 

1601
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:07,560
words written on some of the 
ammunition that was in the 

1602
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,240
recovered rifle. 
And this is kind of a 

1603
01:17:09,240 --> 01:17:11,160
discussion, as I understand, 
like I said, I'm I went off the 

1604
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:13,040
captions on this thing. 
I wasn't able to actually listen

1605
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,120
all the way through it. 
So this is the the governor 

1606
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,160
again talking, and then we'll 
hear the dumbest thing that I 

1607
01:17:17,160 --> 01:17:19,720
can imagine. 
Investigators noted inscriptions

1608
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:23,280
that had been engraved on 
casings found with the rifle 

1609
01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:31,160
inscriptions on a fire casing. 
Read Notices Bulges Capital OWO 

1610
01:17:31,240 --> 01:17:34,600
What's this question mark? 
Inscriptions on the three 

1611
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,600
unfired casings read Hey 
fascist, exclamation point, 

1612
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:44,560
catch exclamation point, up 
arrow symbol, right arrow and 

1613
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:47,000
symbol, and three down arrow 
symbols. 

1614
01:17:47,560 --> 01:17:52,240
A second unfired casing read O 
Bella chow, Bella chow, Bella 

1615
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:56,080
chow chow chow and a third 
unfired casing read. 

1616
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:59,840
If you read this you are gay 
LMAO. 

1617
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:07,560
We are indebted to law 
enforcement across the state. 

1618
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,560
All right, so they went on and 
described some of the other 

1619
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:12,000
things on there. 
We'll go and get some clips for 

1620
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:13,800
the full press conference. 
Again, I'm grabbing that on the 

1621
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,760
fly, which is not quite that 
easy to do. 

1622
01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:18,720
You're talking about trolling, 
memeing stuff. 

1623
01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,040
This is like actually an online 
joke that people say that you 

1624
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:24,240
leave a message for the FBI. 
If you if you read this note, 

1625
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:25,920
then you're gay and this is 
something that you've seen 

1626
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,960
people put in memes. 
This is really juvenile type 

1627
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:31,520
behavior. 
So at least we had professionals

1628
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:35,120
on the scene, except we didn't. 
We had an FBI director who is a 

1629
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:38,960
Hindu talking about a man who 
was not just Christian, but an 

1630
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:42,080
evangelist in many ways going 
out and evangelizing his faith. 

1631
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,680
I talked to Gerardo Boyle last 
night and I said no matter what 

1632
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,240
you say about Charlie Kirk, you 
have to you have to acknowledge 

1633
01:18:49,680 --> 01:18:53,720
that he was really an incredible
witness and was very open about 

1634
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,840
it. 
I didn't know him privately, so 

1635
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:58,760
I can only look at his public 
space, but I know that Charlie 

1636
01:18:58,760 --> 01:19:03,080
Kirk avowed very strong 
Christian views and that he 

1637
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:05,880
hoped to live an example and, 
and convert people with 

1638
01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,400
tolerance. 
And, and we've already kind of 

1639
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:09,720
covered some of these things. 
So that makes this the most 

1640
01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:12,200
incongruous statement that I've 
probably ever heard of someone 

1641
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:13,320
that would try to call him a 
friend. 

1642
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:14,520
I don't know where this comes 
from. 

1643
01:19:14,760 --> 01:19:18,000
This is like fake warrior 
culture cosplay LAR Ping 

1644
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:23,520
bullshit, and this just was done
on a national scene. 

1645
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:26,040
How do you outlive? 
How do you downplay this? 

1646
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,040
After the screw up of of 
announcing that you got 

1647
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:29,840
somebody, I'm going to show you 
some other things. 

1648
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,880
I promised you that I might kind
of go over this lawsuit that 

1649
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:34,120
dropped a couple days ago, so 
I'm going to do a little bit of 

1650
01:19:34,120 --> 01:19:35,120
that too. 
But first we're going to play 

1651
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:36,120
this. 
I haven't even heard this clip 

1652
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:37,400
out loud. 
I've only seen the captions of 

1653
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:39,760
it and I'm already cringing that
we're going to play it. 

1654
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:45,680
For those of you in the chat, 
here we go Lastly to my friend 

1655
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:50,360
Charlie Kirk. 
Rest now brother, we have the 

1656
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:52,720
watch. 
And I'll see you in Valhalla. 

1657
01:19:57,760 --> 01:19:59,120
Can somebody react to that for 
me? 

1658
01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:03,040
Because I don't, I'm 
uncomfortable even hearing it. 

1659
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,040
Who scripted, who wrote that? 
Who? 

1660
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:11,840
Who did he run that by? 
And they were like, yeah, go say

1661
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:13,320
that. 
Go say we'll see you in 

1662
01:20:13,320 --> 01:20:17,040
Valhalla. 
A man who was nonviolent, A man 

1663
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,080
who was a debater. 
Who? 

1664
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:24,320
Was not like some tatted up 
military bro. 

1665
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:26,800
I've I've look, I've got guys 
that I've, I've worked with that

1666
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,320
had things like Victory or 
Valhalla tattooed on their body.

1667
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,760
They lived a warrior ethos. 
That's the way that they 

1668
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,440
operated. 
I don't know what in the hell 

1669
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:35,880
he's doing. 
I don't know who he's hanging 

1670
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,960
out with or who's telling him 
that. 

1671
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:38,520
That's the way that you 
communicate things. 

1672
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,240
I'm going to play it one more 
time. 

1673
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:45,600
Lastly, to my friend Charlie 
Kirk. 

1674
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:50,000
Rest now, brother. 
We have the watch. 

1675
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:56,400
And I'll see you in Valhalla. 
You can see the governor tapping

1676
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,680
him on the shoulder just being 
like you utter fool. 

1677
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,800
What in the actual hell is wrong
with you? 

1678
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:05,080
And unfortunately, this has 
become a real big pattern. 

1679
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,960
And I'm going to tell you this, 
you guys haven't seen this. 

1680
01:21:07,960 --> 01:21:10,840
If you're a member of our local 
channel or our locals community,

1681
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:11,880
then you may have already seen 
this. 

1682
01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,160
I did post this entire lawsuit 
if you guys want to check it 

1683
01:21:14,160 --> 01:21:16,000
out. 
This is a truly wild thing. 

1684
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:17,560
This is what I've been grappling
with a couple days. 

1685
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:20,280
I'm going through these things 
where I'm I'm watching something

1686
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,560
horrible. 
A father and husband 

1687
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:27,000
assassinated for his words at a 
university campus that is 

1688
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:32,840
outside of bounds for all, like 
all civil society and all the 

1689
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,520
ugly things that involves and 
all the, the, the types of 

1690
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,160
reactions that fathers and 
husbands have. 

1691
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:43,040
And you guys, there was, there's
Nick Fridas on there and, and 

1692
01:21:43,040 --> 01:21:45,440
he's talking about it and, and 
he's one of those warrior types.

1693
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:47,480
You didn't hear him say 
something stupid like that. 

1694
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,760
He goes on, actually in the, in 
the clip that I played you 

1695
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,000
earlier, which I might post over
on the, on the locals as well. 

1696
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:55,280
He goes on to say something to 
the effect of like, whatever, 

1697
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,880
it's our job now to take care of
their family. 

1698
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:58,840
And I agree with these things. 
We need to take care of people 

1699
01:21:58,840 --> 01:22:01,600
that put themselves on the line.
It's the reason why I helped 

1700
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:03,000
raise money for Gerardo Boyle's 
family. 

1701
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,640
You know, if you're willing to 
go be a white martyr or God 

1702
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,760
forbid, a red martyr, which is 
to say if you're willing to give

1703
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,400
up your, your comfort and your, 
your social conditions, or if 

1704
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,400
you're willing to give up your 
life for your faith and the 

1705
01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:13,560
things that you believe are 
correct. 

1706
01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:17,080
You know, in many ways, 
Charlie's not just a martyr in, 

1707
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,840
in the religious sense, I think 
he's also a martyr for this 

1708
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,720
country because of the things 
that he was trying to espouse 

1709
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:26,520
that you wanted to speak first. 
So I'm, I'm grappling with all 

1710
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:28,320
that information. 
And then at the same time, I'm 

1711
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,280
also looking at this lawsuit 
that popped out. 

1712
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:32,240
And I've been it's if you guys 
don't follow left wing media, 

1713
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,160
you wouldn't see this. 
But this was on CNN, this was on

1714
01:22:34,160 --> 01:22:37,080
USA TODAY, this was on NBC. 
There's a bunch of crazy stuff. 

1715
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:42,520
And this is, I'm going to read 
some of it to you. 

1716
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:44,920
I'm just it's, it's absolutely 
stunning. 

1717
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:47,240
United States District Court, 
District of Columbia. 

1718
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,200
This is Brian Driscoll. 
He was the former acting 

1719
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,360
director before Cash took over 
of the FBI. 

1720
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:54,000
Stephen Jensen, the J6 warlord 
that we've called out many times

1721
01:22:54,000 --> 01:22:57,440
here on this program and the 
things that he did as the, the, 

1722
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,720
the section chief over the 
domestic terrorism operations 

1723
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,200
section. 
Spencer Evans, who was in charge

1724
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:05,160
of the Las Vegas field office 
and also was the deputy 

1725
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:06,840
attorney. 
He was the deputy assistant 

1726
01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:08,880
director of human resources 
during all the COVID tyranny. 

1727
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,840
So my, my problems with these 
men notwithstanding and they, I 

1728
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:14,040
have problems with them and 
I've, you know, mostly I don't 

1729
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,080
have an issue with what Driscoll
said, although some of the 

1730
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,040
things he said I think are a 
little bit too Bureau for me, 

1731
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,240
but that's, that's fine. 
Anyway, filed by against Cash 

1732
01:23:21,240 --> 01:23:23,960
Patel against the the FBI 
against Pam Bondi in her 

1733
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,320
official capacity as well 
Justice Department and the 

1734
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,800
United States and the executive 
of office, the president and the

1735
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,960
allegations laid out in this 
complaint. 

1736
01:23:31,240 --> 01:23:34,880
And here's the thing, you listen
to some people and they go out 

1737
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:37,240
there and they and they make 
allegations and you go, OK, 

1738
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,640
maybe that's semi credible or, 
you know, this is a civil suit. 

1739
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:43,080
So they don't have like a, a 
high burden of, of requirement 

1740
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:46,080
to be 100% factually accurate. 
And then you know that you're 

1741
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,680
doing it from someone who spent 
20 something years at the FBI, 

1742
01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:52,520
particularly someone like Brian 
Driscoll, who all reports that 

1743
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,840
he was a stellar and outstanding
case agent, that he was an 

1744
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,560
outstanding physical operator, 
that he was a really good 

1745
01:23:57,560 --> 01:23:59,720
teammate, that he was a good 
supervisor, that he was a decent

1746
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:02,680
leader. 
All of this stuff is truly crazy

1747
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:05,680
to read when you know the 
background of some of these 

1748
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:07,720
guys, specifically Driscoll's 
the one that I just found like 

1749
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,600
one of the most damning 
indictments of what has been 

1750
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:11,440
going on. 
So they they explain who all 

1751
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,720
these guys are and what their 
roles were and where they worked

1752
01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:15,240
and the history. 
And so that's what I'm scrolling

1753
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,040
by here. 
This is just like a summary of 

1754
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:18,600
who they were and what their 
careers look like. 

1755
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:20,760
But when you start getting into 
the allegations and the fact 

1756
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,680
patterns of how it was that they
came into the position they were

1757
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,200
in under Cash Patel, and then 
how it was that they were 

1758
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:28,840
eventually removed, it is 
freaking crazy. 

1759
01:24:29,720 --> 01:24:32,680
It is absolutely insane. 
And it is such a damning 

1760
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,720
indictment of the unserious 
nature that apparently Trump 2 

1761
01:24:35,720 --> 01:24:38,640
point O and the administration 
has taken with the Justice 

1762
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,560
Department specifically. 
It is nuts to me. 

1763
01:24:41,920 --> 01:24:43,960
At the time that Donald Trump's 
inauguration took place, 

1764
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:46,360
Driscoll was the special agent 
in charge of the Newark field 

1765
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,600
office in New Jersey. 
Jensen was the special agent in 

1766
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,280
charge of Columbia. 
And then you had Spencer Evans, 

1767
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,040
who was in charge of the Las 
Vegas field office. 

1768
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,960
It goes on to talk about how 
some guy named Michael Clarke, a

1769
01:24:56,960 --> 01:25:00,720
special agent who is associated 
with the Society of ex FBI 

1770
01:25:00,720 --> 01:25:03,600
agents are also known as Sock 
EC, ex FBI. 

1771
01:25:04,120 --> 01:25:07,680
This retired special agent who 
retired, as far as I can tell, 

1772
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,760
like 15 years ago or give or 
take, Like he was already in the

1773
01:25:11,760 --> 01:25:14,160
private industry in 2012 or 
2013. 

1774
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,920
So I don't know how far back it 
was that he was retired, but 

1775
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,480
he's been out of the Bureau for 
well over a decade, like closer 

1776
01:25:19,480 --> 01:25:21,080
to a decade and a half by my 
estimation. 

1777
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:26,040
He has a background in, in 
English, but he teaches forensic

1778
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:28,720
something or other, you know, 
criminology stuff at a 

1779
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:32,040
university. 
He's at the university, I think 

1780
01:25:32,040 --> 01:25:34,280
in New Haven. 
I'm, I'm just going off memory 

1781
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:35,880
here, so don't quote me 100% on 
that one. 

1782
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,480
But he somehow managed to 
establish a relationship with 

1783
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:42,560
Cash Patel while he was an agent
many, many years ago and then 

1784
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,520
now is like an advisor. 
And so he was coming in and 

1785
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,920
vetting and asking people in the
Bureau who should be promoted. 

1786
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:51,880
That's really crazy. 
And so if you guys want to blame

1787
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,760
somebody for why the FBI didn't 
take on the right answers and 

1788
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:56,800
didn't actually go after the 
real problems, it's because he 

1789
01:25:57,160 --> 01:25:59,880
cash immediately snuggled up to 
this transition team that 

1790
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:03,080
involved this guy Mike Clark and
and took their advice, which 

1791
01:26:03,080 --> 01:26:06,440
came directly out of the Society
of FBI former agents. 

1792
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,760
So they didn't go to people that
were, you know, the folks that 

1793
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:10,200
were whistleblowers. 
They didn't go to the people 

1794
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:11,440
that said, hey, we know there's 
a real problem. 

1795
01:26:11,640 --> 01:26:13,560
They went to the people who 
defended the Bureau by default. 

1796
01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:15,200
And that's why we have a lot of 
these issues. 

1797
01:26:15,720 --> 01:26:18,080
The first thing that we find out
is that Driscoll and this guy 

1798
01:26:18,320 --> 01:26:22,080
whose name is Robert Kessane, 
we're actually not supposed to 

1799
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,400
be in the right order. 
It was supposed to be that 

1800
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:26,240
Robert Kasane was supposed to be
the acting director. 

1801
01:26:26,320 --> 01:26:28,480
And somehow the Trump 
administration wrote it wrong 

1802
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,720
and then decided, well, we wrote
the order and so we're not going

1803
01:26:30,720 --> 01:26:32,840
to do anything about it. 
And Emil Bove, who was the 

1804
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:35,160
deputy attorney general, decided
to just go with it. 

1805
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,840
They were like, whatever it's 
written, we're not going to 

1806
01:26:36,840 --> 01:26:38,400
fight it. 
Who cares who the acting is? 

1807
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,840
So then we Scroll down and we 
find out that they started 

1808
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:43,920
having all these meetings and 
all these meetings were 

1809
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,080
immediately political, that 
there was political vetting 

1810
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:48,440
going on. 
And you know, for for a group of

1811
01:26:48,440 --> 01:26:51,000
people that have advocated that 
they were going to try to get a,

1812
01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,760
an apolitical FBI. 
And that's what you kind of want

1813
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:55,920
from an FBI. 
They immediately did the 

1814
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,520
opposite of that. 
Driscoll says that the process 

1815
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:02,640
entailed questions about his 
social media, whether he donated

1816
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,160
to the Democrat Party. 
And he was asked if he did or 

1817
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,840
did not vote for Kamala Harris 
in the 2024 election. 

1818
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:09,760
That's what Cash Patel told him 
the questions would be out. 

1819
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,360
He was, he was questioned by a 
29 year old attorney who's 

1820
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:16,080
basically never had a real job 
before, as far as I can tell, in

1821
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,080
the guy of what's his name, Paul
Ingrassia, who I've met and he's

1822
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,600
an utterly unimpressive person 
in in, in person. 

1823
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:26,800
He was working with like the 
guys over that Ryan Matta knew 

1824
01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,960
he was part of whatever the heck
that broadcast group is. 

1825
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,240
I don't remember what they even 
call it's, it's like it's not 

1826
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,360
even important enough to 
remember. 

1827
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:37,200
Paul Ingrassia was the White 
House representative as the DOJ 

1828
01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:39,720
transition liaison. 
He had no experience in the 

1829
01:27:39,720 --> 01:27:42,440
White House, the DOJ or the FBI 
or in government in general. 

1830
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,000
And he is like an attorney, as 
far as I could tell that like 

1831
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:47,200
has a degree, but I don't think 
he's worked as an attorney. 

1832
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:49,240
And he's asking vetting 
questions for a quote, UN quote,

1833
01:27:49,240 --> 01:27:52,160
high level position at the FBI. 
They go on and ask him how to 

1834
01:27:52,160 --> 01:27:54,240
define threats, What should be 
done with the structure of the 

1835
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,720
FBI? 
Who did you vote for? 

1836
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:57,160
Which Driscoll refused to 
answer. 

1837
01:27:57,320 --> 01:28:00,080
Do you agree that FBI agents 
stormed Mar a Lago and that the 

1838
01:28:00,080 --> 01:28:01,560
Reagan file should be held 
accountable? 

1839
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,040
He was asked about that. 
What are your thoughts on 

1840
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:04,920
diversity, equity, inclusion? 
I actually don't really like his

1841
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,080
answer for that. 
By the way, his answer that 

1842
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:09,480
diversity is important doesn't 
feel great to me. 

1843
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:11,720
When did you start supporting 
Donald Trump? 

1844
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:13,280
Assuming this? 
Driscoll didn't answer of that 

1845
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:14,600
either. 
Have you ever voted for a 

1846
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:15,920
Democrat in the last five 
elections? 

1847
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:16,840
None of these things are 
relevant. 

1848
01:28:16,840 --> 01:28:18,640
We're not allowed to have 
political tests for these jobs 

1849
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:19,840
that are supposed to be 
apolitical. 

1850
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,000
And of course, Cash Patel went 
out and said that it was going 

1851
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:24,440
to be an apolitical job, that he
was not going to hold people, 

1852
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,200
you know, in in improper holds. 
For whatever it's worth, folks, 

1853
01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:32,280
all of the recommendations we 
made to Patel and what would 

1854
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:35,440
eventually be Bongino's 
leadership, we all told them 

1855
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:37,760
that if you wanted these things 
to stick, there was a legal way 

1856
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,320
to do it. 
And the easiest way to do it is 

1857
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,840
to take people that work there 
and put them in positions where 

1858
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,400
they were no longer going to be 
a problem. 

1859
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,440
And then the 2nd and most 
important piece of it was, is 

1860
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:50,360
that if there was actually 
criminal allegations, then you 

1861
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:54,120
go through the process, you, you
do an internal investigation, 

1862
01:28:54,200 --> 01:28:56,640
you go ahead and remove them 
from their position for cause 

1863
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,560
and you follow the process in 
due process so that you can 

1864
01:28:59,560 --> 01:29:01,120
actually do it right. 
Instead of what they did to guys

1865
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,800
like Erica Boyle and Steve 
Friend and myself. 

1866
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,680
Because you wanted it to stick. 
This, these, these terminations 

1867
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,720
are not going to stick. 
By the way, these guys are going

1868
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:10,640
to get paid out and they're 
probably going to get paid out 

1869
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:14,040
handsomely because the fact 
pattern that is laid out here, 

1870
01:29:14,040 --> 01:29:16,400
and I'm confident that it's 
accurate based on seeing it from

1871
01:29:16,400 --> 01:29:19,640
the outside and hearing from 
other people inside, it's 

1872
01:29:19,640 --> 01:29:22,400
wildly, it's wildly illegal. 
What they did. 

1873
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:24,800
They violated all of the due 
process requirements. 

1874
01:29:24,800 --> 01:29:27,680
They violated FBI policy. 
And apparently Cash Patel 

1875
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,080
admitted to these guys that the 
things that he was doing, 

1876
01:29:30,080 --> 01:29:32,480
including the firing of Chris 
Meyer, the firing of Walter 

1877
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:34,920
Gardena, and then going and 
getting rid of the three men 

1878
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:36,680
that are in this lawsuit was 
actually illegal. 

1879
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:38,760
He believed it was illegal, but 
he was going to lose his job 

1880
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:42,000
with Trump if he didn't do it. 
The really crazy part comes in 

1881
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:45,720
where Cash Patel was apparently 
pressuring these men, and 

1882
01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:48,480
specifically it mentions it in 
the case of Stephen Jensen, who 

1883
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:51,320
I've been very aggressive about 
saying he was not the right guy 

1884
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,720
to lead the Washington Field 
office because of his background

1885
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,760
and because of what that 
weaponized government did. 

1886
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:58,000
That doesn't mean that you fire 
him. 

1887
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,160
It means you put him somewhere 
irrelevant, put him out in Guam 

1888
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,280
and let him rat out the rest of 
his days in irrelevancy. 

1889
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:04,360
Instead, what they did is they 
put him in the Washington Field 

1890
01:30:04,360 --> 01:30:08,080
Office, defended it, and then 
Cash Patel was apparently, per 

1891
01:30:08,080 --> 01:30:11,440
Jensen's own statements in this,
this complaint was actually 

1892
01:30:11,440 --> 01:30:15,800
asking Patel was asking Jensen 
to sue prominent online 

1893
01:30:15,800 --> 01:30:19,120
commentators who are making 
Cash's job more difficult with 

1894
01:30:19,120 --> 01:30:23,200
political pressure. 
The words political capital are 

1895
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,480
used in order to defend his 
hiring. 

1896
01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:28,680
And they specifically mentioned 
me in this lawsuit. 

1897
01:30:28,920 --> 01:30:32,200
It the allegations in this 
lawsuit, which are not the 

1898
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,080
original point that they have, 
but it obviously loads up what 

1899
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:37,600
we're dealing with here, State 
that Cash Patel was being 

1900
01:30:37,600 --> 01:30:42,280
pressured by the White House to 
do something and his solution 

1901
01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:47,520
was get FBI employees that he 
was asking on FBI time to go 

1902
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,760
engage Cash Patel's own 
defamation lawyers and then come

1903
01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,880
out and sue Kyle Serafin to shut
him up. 

1904
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:54,960
And that would take some of the 
pressure off his back. 

1905
01:30:56,800 --> 01:31:01,880
That's the claim. 
That's that's wild. 

1906
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:07,480
And so now we have people who 
are witnesses to what what looks

1907
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,720
a lot like a conspiracy between 
the attorneys that have sued us.

1908
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,400
It's truly conspiratorial to go 
and try to ask other people to 

1909
01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:19,080
join your plan to sue people for
defamation. 

1910
01:31:19,600 --> 01:31:21,960
And the things that we reported 
on about Stephen Jensen were the

1911
01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:25,840
factual requirements of his job,
his own factual statements that 

1912
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:29,760
he gave Underoath. 
So there's no defamation case 

1913
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,000
against him. 
And what Jensen said, to his 

1914
01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:34,440
credit, is that I'm not going to
worry about what online media 

1915
01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:37,160
people are saying about my job 
or what I do. 

1916
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:38,560
I'm going to focus on the 
mission of the FBI. 

1917
01:31:38,680 --> 01:31:40,360
You know what? 
That's what people in the FBI 

1918
01:31:40,360 --> 01:31:42,240
are supposed to do. 
You have to deal with public 

1919
01:31:42,240 --> 01:31:44,840
scrutiny and cash. 
Patel's answer to it was how do 

1920
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:48,800
we sue this guy to stop him? 
The allegations in the 68 page 

1921
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:53,320
lawsuit are so damning and it's 
so embarrassing, I would say for

1922
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:56,280
the Trump administration at 
large because what it shows is 

1923
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:57,960
unbelievable amounts of amateur 
hours. 

1924
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:01,160
There's allegations that Dan 
Bongino is completely fixated on

1925
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:02,840
the things that he said on Fox 
News. 

1926
01:32:03,320 --> 01:32:06,040
They mentioned that he is a very
interested in the pipe bomber, 

1927
01:32:06,120 --> 01:32:08,960
the Dobbs leak, and the cocaine 
in the White House story to the 

1928
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:12,040
point where people who were 
interacting with him felt like 

1929
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,320
he didn't understand the 
priorities of the FBI and that 

1930
01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:16,960
his entire job was to create 
content on social media. 

1931
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,040
I'm paraphrasing from this 
lawsuit here. 

1932
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:24,120
That was the claim. 
So when I hear from people that 

1933
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:25,920
are in the Bureau that are at 
the low level that we are 

1934
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:28,680
basically being run by social 
media influencers and you 

1935
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,080
actually see social media 
influencer type language where 

1936
01:32:32,080 --> 01:32:35,480
the where the FBI director goes 
out and says victory or Valhalla

1937
01:32:35,480 --> 01:32:36,640
or I'll see you in Valhalla 
brother. 

1938
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:40,600
We have the watch to a non 
military, non law enforcement, 

1939
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,320
like non physical warrior, not 
vet bro, just a guy who believed

1940
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:48,320
in Christ and was out there 
trying to have a both an 

1941
01:32:48,320 --> 01:32:51,240
evangelistic position and debate
people on on the culture war. 

1942
01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:55,040
What are we doing here? 
I mean, it's so crazy. 

1943
01:32:55,040 --> 01:32:57,680
I've read this and I was like, 
not only do I believe most of 

1944
01:32:57,680 --> 01:33:00,040
this stuff is true from the from
the outside reporting that I've 

1945
01:33:00,040 --> 01:33:03,840
gotten in, it also aligns with 
some of this, this, this 

1946
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:07,200
muppetry that we keep seeing 
from this administration on the 

1947
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,040
DOJ side specifically. 
And you'll notice the press 

1948
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:11,920
conference and the interview 
that Donald Trump did. 

1949
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:15,880
He praised the US Marshall, he 
praised Pam Bondi, he said the 

1950
01:33:15,880 --> 01:33:19,680
police did a great job. 
No mention of our FBI, who 

1951
01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:22,920
theoretically had to fly a 
deputy director and A and an 

1952
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,400
actual director out there to be 
part of a press conference for 

1953
01:33:25,400 --> 01:33:26,840
him to say something stupid and 
embarrassing. 

1954
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:29,080
I don't know how that guy lasts.
And as we mentioned earlier, 

1955
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,400
they've already got the White 
House's first choice. 

1956
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:34,120
The original first choice was 
Andrew Bailey, and now he's 

1957
01:33:34,120 --> 01:33:36,480
working at the FBI. 
So when I told you that I 

1958
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:39,040
thought their time was limited, 
I mean that real specifically, 

1959
01:33:39,040 --> 01:33:42,080
and all these guys do under 
pressure is continue to act like

1960
01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:45,920
fools. 
It is so silly and stupidly 

1961
01:33:45,920 --> 01:33:49,400
embarrassing. 
Emil Bove comes off as very, 

1962
01:33:49,400 --> 01:33:53,800
very amateurish and incredibly 
sort of inappropriate in in 

1963
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,320
this. 
You know, obviously it's one 

1964
01:33:55,320 --> 01:33:56,840
side of the story. 
So the other side of it will be 

1965
01:33:56,840 --> 01:33:57,920
interesting to hear what he 
says. 

1966
01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:02,520
But I don't see how any of this 
stuff allows the men that are in

1967
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,600
charge to stay. 
And 68 pages, which is now being

1968
01:34:05,600 --> 01:34:07,600
covered in mainstream press. 
The minute that the right wing 

1969
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:11,080
media stops covering every 
single minute they can for this 

1970
01:34:11,080 --> 01:34:15,720
sinking FBI ship that's out 
there, it's going to be 

1971
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,120
catastrophic. 
And someone, there's plenty of 

1972
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:19,680
people, if you go look at 
comments online that are 

1973
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:20,960
starting to realize what this 
is. 

1974
01:34:21,480 --> 01:34:23,120
They asked for things that were 
inappropriate. 

1975
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:25,520
I actually think Driscoll didn't
behave appropriately. 

1976
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,600
As I said at the time, I think 
that you should have given over 

1977
01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,880
the names of people that worked 
on January 6th because that's 

1978
01:34:29,880 --> 01:34:31,880
what you're asking for. 
That's a reasonable order for 

1979
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:36,440
DOJ to have oversight over. 
But the way that they handled 

1980
01:34:36,440 --> 01:34:38,800
this and the way that they 
decided to do things, especially

1981
01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,480
admissions by the current FBI 
director who says basically for 

1982
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:45,720
me to keep my job, I must break 
the law in firing you, is 

1983
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:48,320
unbelievable. 
And this is opening up a huge 

1984
01:34:48,320 --> 01:34:50,480
field day for all the people on 
the political left that have 

1985
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:51,880
been targeting and want to 
embarrass the Trump 

1986
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,480
administration. 
They're going to be able to do 

1987
01:34:53,480 --> 01:34:55,200
it. 
And it's because of stupidity 

1988
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,320
and having people that are not 
bright, that are fumbling under 

1989
01:34:58,320 --> 01:35:00,720
pressure left and right no 
matter what happens. 

1990
01:35:01,080 --> 01:35:02,920
This is, you know, the great 
example I showed you. 

1991
01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:06,320
If you go out and announce that 
you've got somebody in custody 

1992
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:09,160
when you don't and have to 
retract it an hour later, all 

1993
01:35:09,160 --> 01:35:11,560
that tells me is you are so 
desperate for positive 

1994
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:14,440
messaging. 
And the, and what we see also 

1995
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:17,000
is, is that every single time 
you put a little bit of pressure

1996
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:19,840
on these guys, not only do they 
cave, they embarrass themselves 

1997
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:22,080
even further. 
This is a comedy of errors. 

1998
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,960
This is the the Brier rabbit or 
what is it? 

1999
01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:25,600
What was the the tar baby 
scenario? 

2000
01:35:26,120 --> 01:35:28,360
You know, the tar baby says 
nothing and you're mad at it for

2001
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,400
existing. 
So you take a swing at it and 

2002
01:35:30,400 --> 01:35:32,720
you hit the tar baby and then 
you get tar on yourself and 

2003
01:35:32,720 --> 01:35:34,360
you're mad again. 
So you hit the tar baby and all 

2004
01:35:34,360 --> 01:35:36,720
you do is end up like covered in
tar. 

2005
01:35:36,720 --> 01:35:38,280
And the tar baby is not even a 
real person. 

2006
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:40,120
It's just this inanimate object 
that's just sitting there 

2007
01:35:40,120 --> 01:35:41,440
letting you tie yourself in 
knots. 

2008
01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:44,480
Patel keeps doing this stuff. 
It's freaking wild. 

2009
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:50,320
One more time. 
Lastly, to my friend Charlie 

2010
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:53,800
Kirk. 
Rest now, brother. 

2011
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:57,000
We have the watch. 
And I'll see you in Valhalla. 

2012
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,360
All right, I yeah, I don't, I 
don't know what planet we're 

2013
01:36:01,360 --> 01:36:02,880
living on where these are the 
people that are out there 

2014
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,160
running things. 
It's really gross. 

2015
01:36:04,160 --> 01:36:06,000
I was going to play you guys 
some other sort of hatred coming

2016
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:08,440
from the left, but I'm not going
to do that because I'm just the 

2017
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:11,920
the solution has always been 
that you needed to fix this FBI.

2018
01:36:11,920 --> 01:36:13,920
So it doesn't do things. 
So it it actually does the 

2019
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:17,200
threat assessments that that 
should be done apolitically if 

2020
01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:19,760
you're going to have it do it at
all or put that money into 

2021
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:21,120
places where it can actually do 
work. 

2022
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:25,720
We spent $11 billion a year on 
that FBI and what are we getting

2023
01:36:25,720 --> 01:36:27,800
for it right now? 
We're getting multiple private 

2024
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,120
jet flights a day. 
I have some allegations that are

2025
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:32,800
unsubstantiated right now, but 
I'll just tell you, I'm being 

2026
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:37,400
told that Cash Patel was having 
lunch when when Charlie Kirk was

2027
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:41,440
shot or maybe even dinner, and 
that he was notified while he 

2028
01:36:41,440 --> 01:36:43,680
was in New Jersey in a place 
called Cliffside, sitting at a 

2029
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,320
restaurant. 
He got the call, was told what 

2030
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,000
happened, and then he went back 
to eating his lunch and then 

2031
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,440
walked out after he was done 
eating. 

2032
01:36:49,960 --> 01:36:52,160
And it's coming in from a pretty
credible source. 

2033
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,160
So that will remain to be seen 
whether that's actually what 

2034
01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:58,520
happened. 
But this is this is acting. 

2035
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:00,920
It's theater. 
RFK Junior said it the other day

2036
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:04,000
accurately. 
I'm going to play you a palate 

2037
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:05,720
cleanse because I don't think I 
can get away without it. 

2038
01:37:05,720 --> 01:37:08,120
And it's a palate cleanse about 
what should be the discussion 

2039
01:37:08,120 --> 01:37:10,480
and what the right answer should
be, which is always that we 

2040
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:14,920
should be, we should be weeping 
for the death of civility. 

2041
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:17,880
And going into this weekend, you
know, I hope you guys are 

2042
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,960
preparing yourself for some 
really bad possibilities. 

2043
01:37:21,080 --> 01:37:22,880
And I hope that you're also 
hugging and loving your 

2044
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,560
children. 
And that's what the the governor

2045
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,040
of Utah said yesterday said put 
your phones down, stop doing the

2046
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:30,040
conspiracy and and give your 
kids a hug and spend some time 

2047
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,560
outside with them. 
So I hope you guys do that as 

2048
01:37:31,560 --> 01:37:32,720
well. 
We've talked about this during 

2049
01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:34,360
the election cycle. 
We're back into that same 

2050
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:36,200
mindset. 
So do that. 

2051
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:38,680
I don't have a Sunday sit down, 
but I've got a couple of neat 

2052
01:37:38,680 --> 01:37:40,560
ones that are coming up. 
One of them particularly that 

2053
01:37:40,600 --> 01:37:42,880
we're going to be talking about 
agency, which is that you don't 

2054
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:46,240
have to have permission to go do
things as a man or a woman that 

2055
01:37:46,240 --> 01:37:47,960
knows that God loves you in the 
world. 

2056
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:50,080
You can just go do the things 
that you think are right, 

2057
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,360
regardless of whether somebody 
gives you permission or invites 

2058
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:54,960
you to. 
It's another reminder that if 

2059
01:37:55,000 --> 01:37:57,040
you hear a little voice in your 
head saying, should I act? 

2060
01:37:57,480 --> 01:37:59,600
That's a reminder that you 
should act, whatever that is. 

2061
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,880
If some of you were thinking, 
hey, I haven't been to church in

2062
01:38:01,880 --> 01:38:03,160
a long time, then you should go 
to church. 

2063
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,640
And I've had some friends reach 
out and tell me that too, people

2064
01:38:05,640 --> 01:38:07,160
that otherwise don't go to 
church. 

2065
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:08,600
And they said, I'm thinking 
about going back. 

2066
01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:12,000
It seems like it might be the 
right thing to do for me and my 

2067
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,120
family and my children and so 
on. 

2068
01:38:13,120 --> 01:38:15,640
And that's awesome. 
And so I think people are going 

2069
01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,440
to have an awakening of that. 
That's going to be the legacy 

2070
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,200
that you're going to see from 
the shooting. 

2071
01:38:19,320 --> 01:38:22,440
But we're also going to see a, 
an exposure of of utter 

2072
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:26,400
incompetence for some folks out 
there that you wanted to trust. 

2073
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:28,720
It's been the six to eight 
months already. 

2074
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:31,360
For whatever it's worth, let me 
remind you guys you can support 

2075
01:38:31,360 --> 01:38:33,680
us over by liking these videos. 
If you're watching still, I 

2076
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,120
really appreciate if you guys do
that. 

2077
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:36,360
Please make sure you're clicking
the thumbs up. 

2078
01:38:36,480 --> 01:38:38,640
Please make sure you're getting 
notified over on YouTube. 

2079
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:40,440
We're building the audience over
there in a great way. 

2080
01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:42,000
And you know, for whatever it 
works. 

2081
01:38:42,240 --> 01:38:45,080
I think they pay something like 
15X to 1 compared to what Rumble

2082
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,040
does. 
Rumble continues to be 

2083
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:48,360
atrocious. 
Every morning I spend twice as 

2084
01:38:48,360 --> 01:38:50,880
much or four times as much time 
just fighting with the platform.

2085
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:52,840
So find us there. 
You can find us on X at Kyle 

2086
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:54,280
Seraphin. 
You can support U.S. financial 

2087
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,440
if you want to get behind the, 
you know, behind the Seraphin 

2088
01:38:56,440 --> 01:38:58,560
show and be part of our 
community at locals, which is 

2089
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:01,000
Kyle seraphin.com. 
By all means, do that. 

2090
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:02,920
We really appreciate that. 
Again, I'll put this lawsuit up 

2091
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,480
there or it already is. 
I think it's pinned. 

2092
01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,520
You'll find some other good 
videos and stuff that we open 

2093
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,080
for the the unpaid subscribers. 
If you want to be a subscriber, 

2094
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:11,000
also good. 
All right, let's do a palate 

2095
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,040
cleanse because God, we need it.
This guy does some pretty good 

2096
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,760
sort of like back and forth 
where he argues with himself, 

2097
01:39:17,240 --> 01:39:20,000
plays two different characters. 
He's saying the right thing. 

2098
01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,240
So I think it's a good message 
to go out on for this weekend. 

2099
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:25,680
Charlie Kirk got shot. 
What the the, the right wing 

2100
01:39:25,680 --> 01:39:27,960
guy. 
Yeah, he got shot on campus in 

2101
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:30,840
the middle of the debate. 
Fuck what? 

2102
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,720
I thought you hated the guy. 
Yeah, but just because I 

2103
01:39:33,720 --> 01:39:35,880
disagree with the guy doesn't 
mean I believe he deserves to 

2104
01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,720
get shot. 
But he was spewing all that hate

2105
01:39:38,720 --> 01:39:42,200
speech on university campuses. 
What do you think universities 

2106
01:39:42,200 --> 01:39:43,760
are for? 
It's not supposed to be some 

2107
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:45,880
echo chamber. 
Where you hear the same opinions

2108
01:39:45,880 --> 01:39:47,680
thrown back at you. 
It's supposed to be a place 

2109
01:39:47,680 --> 01:39:50,160
where you learn how to be a 
critical thinker, and the only 

2110
01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:53,400
way of doing so is by having 
your own ideas attacked so you 

2111
01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:56,600
can learn to either defend or 
throw away the ideas that don't 

2112
01:39:56,600 --> 01:39:59,040
serve you. 
Not to be a safe space. 

2113
01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:03,000
It's supposed to be dangerous 
because ideas are dangerous. 

2114
01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:07,320
A single idea can heal or poison
an entire nation. 

2115
01:40:07,680 --> 01:40:10,240
Well, he said Pew, Pew deaths 
are a necessary cost. 

2116
01:40:10,240 --> 01:40:13,280
Having a Second Amendment, 
that's what I'm afraid of. 

2117
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,640
That we forget that we're 
brother and sister, that we 

2118
01:40:16,640 --> 01:40:20,440
dehumanize one another, assuming
malice, but we forget that merit

2119
01:40:20,440 --> 01:40:24,280
is not monopolized by either 
side, that we need one another. 

2120
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:27,560
That through compromise we might
be able to find some semblance 

2121
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,320
of truth. 
Because if we. 

2122
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:33,560
Point a barrel, we become a 
monster too. 

2123
01:40:35,520 --> 01:40:40,640
Not wrong, not wrong at all, but
that time may have already 

2124
01:40:40,640 --> 01:40:42,360
passed, which is the other thing
that I think a lot of us are 

2125
01:40:42,360 --> 01:40:45,480
acknowledging by the time people
start pulling triggers, it's 

2126
01:40:45,480 --> 01:40:47,680
already happened. 
And that's why I brought up the 

2127
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:50,600
the left wing and the 
assassination cult and the 

2128
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:52,840
assassination culture that 
exists on the left right now, 

2129
01:40:52,840 --> 01:40:55,240
which is pretty strong. 
Anyway, hopefully that's a 

2130
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:57,360
reminder to you to go out and 
prepare yourself, whatever it 

2131
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:00,000
looks like. 
And again, take some time away 

2132
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:02,160
from social media conspiracies 
and all the other kind of crazy 

2133
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,440
stuff. 
Take a little breath this 

2134
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:04,600
weekend. 
I look forward to seeing you 

2135
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,320
guys back on Monday morning at 
0930 Eastern Time if you watch 

2136
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,120
this live. 
Otherwise, we'll catch you on 

2137
01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,040
Spotify, iHeartRadio, over on 
Apple and so on. 

2138
01:41:12,040 --> 01:41:15,320
God bless you. 
God bless the family of the Kirk

2139
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,640
family as well those two little 
kids and look forward to seeing 

2140
01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:22,720
you after this long weekend. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

2141
01:41:22,720 --> 01:41:26,680
Serafin show, streamed live 
weekdays on rumble.com/kyle 

2142
01:41:26,680 --> 01:41:30,760
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2143
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