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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties. 

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Enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serafin. 
Hello my friends, and welcome to

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the Kyle Seraphin Show if you 
are watching this. 

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It is baby time in the Seraphin 
household, so I don't know what 

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day it is, but I do know that 
you are in for a real treat. 

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I taped this interview a couple 
of days ago with Mickey Willis, 

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who is a filmmaker who created 
the plandemic series. 

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The Plandemic 1-2 and three are 
the three movies that he 

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created. 
They're available free at 

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plandemicseries.com. 
I believe we'll flash it on the 

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bottom here for sure. 
It'll be in the show notes and 

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what I'll tell you is this. 
It's a uniquely appropriate 

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interview because this was one 
of the most hopeful and 

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energetic lowkey conversations 
that I walked away from it 

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feeling good, and I hope you do 
as well. 

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I hope you really enjoy this. 
I think that this is going to be

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an impactful conversation for 
you. 

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It certainly was for me. 
When I walked away, I had no 

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idea what I was getting into. 
And we don't talk very much 

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about pandemics or pandemics or 
anything else. 

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We talked about is messaging, is
about hypnotism, about families,

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about values and about the 
journey that we all go through 

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in life. 
And maybe as we start to see the

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plan, there's a little bit more 
logic there. 

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There's a little bit more sense 
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anticipated at any given point, 
including the lowest points. 

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So if you are at a low point 
right now, I encourage you to 

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watch this all the way through. 
I think it will bring you a 

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sense of peace and watch through
the end. 

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There's a little twist because I
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Mickey corrected me and I think 
I think he was correct at the 

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end. 
So kick around for this. 

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This is going to be a two-part 
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You guys will get a big chunk of
it up front and I think even 

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more intense dose at the end 
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Y'all, ladies and gentlemen, we 

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are going to welcome our guest 
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He is the investigative 
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Plandemic 1-2 and three, which 
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plandemicseries.com. 
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us, although he's on the other 
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the plandemic, about the term 
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filmmaker, how he got into that.
So, Mickey, welcome to the Kyle 

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Thanks so much. 

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Good to be here. 
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I always like to know the view, 
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grew up and how you ended up 
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Grew up in Sacramento, CA. 
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Starryeyed kid. 
The story we've all heard. 

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Stepped off the bus and and into
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realized that being in front of 
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possible until I got in front of
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So I swiftly left that position 
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own theater in Los Angeles when 
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writing and directing theatrical
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damaged in the the Northridge 
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And and I left that to begin 
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That was my first parlay into 
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Filmed Entertainment and On the 
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invited to direct a Co directed 
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The Blender Company, Yeah. 
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And I didn't go to film school. 
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I hire people around me who did.
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and all of it. 
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learn, but I'm glad as an artist
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that like many educations, it 
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cutter mindset that has you 
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And it's what's kind of funny, 
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For years I critics have called 
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and most of the time I have no 
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It's usually because I don't 
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I end up doing what you're not 
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don't, I didn't know that I was 
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I've, I've made my own and 
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formula. 
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world, the state of the state 
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when the Los Angeles riots broke
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and doing what I'm doing now 
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some overlap there. 
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Sacramento things like that and 
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Warner Brothers a little bit 
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kind of a strange little thing. 
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politician spoke. 
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what a beautiful family man. 
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was questioning where the hope 
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there were six new wars. 
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game of politics and and and so 
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Smartened up. 
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the road supporting Bernie 
Sanders and all of it was 

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divine. 
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I have a rule in life that the 
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And so I I look at all of that 
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can understand what I understand
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I had to go to the other side of
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I had to be fooled. 
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I had to see the other side 

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behind the curtain. 
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know there is a a really dirty 
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to capture our attention and and
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And I equate our attention to 
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It literally is the thing like 
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hijacked. 
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through years of working with 
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car commercial or whatever it 
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and you know what I thought was 
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concept and it would always get 
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wanted to do is just just get 
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at the end of it we'll say 
Honda. 

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It's like what What does that 
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I don't understand this. 
And it's like, no, we just want 

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their attention. 
You know that girls in bikinis 

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get attention or you know, we 
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they're not complete and that 
our project, you know, will 

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complete them. 
So that's what we really want to

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hear is how do. 
So it's really all about this 

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really high level manipulation 
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And I started to get very 
involved in ontological research

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that really the study of being 
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What's going on with humanity? 
What's going on with us? 

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What's going on with me and how?
How did I get led into two 

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political situations that I now 
can see clearly, But at that 

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point I couldn't see at all. 
I was, you know, I was 

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hypnotized. 
And if you've seen The Great 

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Awakening, you see that I opened
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that that was the beginning of 
my true political awakening, was

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when I asked the question am I 
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And that's when I started to 
just the just the asking of that

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question. 
Which I've never done before. 

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I never had a reason to ask 
myself if I were hypnotized, who

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Who does that right? 
Unless you start to realize I 

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know I'm smarter than this and I
know I'm street smart, but yet 

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I'm. 
I'm getting suckered into 

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something twice now that I 
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So what part of my mind has been
captured such that I can't 

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perceive the things that I 
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the world And how are they doing
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How do they do this to me, you 
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And and the answer is 
incrementally. 

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And through everything, through 
every billboard and every 

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commercial and and all the 
different ways that all of the 

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narratives have been captured to
influence our choices in the 

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direction of our future, maybe 
you could talk a little more 

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about the advertising world, 
especially coming out of the 

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infomercial sort of background, 
right. 

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So that's kind of a splash we 
got to grab your attention, as I

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understand it. 
You know, I grew up watching the

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same infomercials everyone else 
did where they show you an 

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incredible product and amazing 
claim, and then they show you a 

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bunch of really flashy visuals. 
And at the end of it, you know, 

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it's only 1995 and it's however 
many payments and and this is 

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going to change your life. 
How does that move into sort of 

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the higher level, you know, big 
narratives that we're hearing in

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this country? 
Like how do you see the 

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parallels working? 
Well, it's all a primer for the 

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mass hypnosis that so many 
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We don't realize to the degree 
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it's done to our collective 
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Because it's just there all the 
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It's it's everywhere we go. 
It's on those little dividers at

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the checkout stand. 
It's everywhere that there's a 

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blank space. 
They fill it with advertising. 

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And that's something that people
don't realize, that there's a so

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many subliminal things happening
that our mind is always, always 

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being bombarded with what they 
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And that that can affect even 
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I I'm a real stubborn guy. 
You know, like I'm a strong 

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headed person. 
If I know something's right. 

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There's nothing you can show me 
unless it's really hard 

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evidence. 
I'm not stubborn to the point of

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any longer. 
I'm not study. 

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I'm not stubborn to the point of
not being open to real evidence.

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But if there's something that I 
know to be real, you can't 

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convince me that it's not. 
And if there's something I know 

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to be unreal, you can't convince
me that it's real. 

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And yet I I realize even, you 
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I find myself susceptible all 
the time to the suggestion of 

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just realizing that, you know, I
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somehow I'm, I'm, I'm hungry. 
Oh, God. 

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I just, I just heard a 
commercial. 

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I just saw this little thing, 
this thing flashed in my mind. 

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And you know, they outlawed what
they call subliminal advertising

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years ago, which was just a 
A-frame or two that they'd flash

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in a movie theater. 
They run these little you know. 

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Ad for the next movie, but 
within it there'd be a flash of 

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popcorn. 
The next thing you know, the 

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audience wouldn't even perceive 
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go want some popcorn. 
I'm going to go get some 

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popcorn. 
Okay. 

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Cool. 
And it would work. 

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Because suddenly this imagery 
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mind toys with that until it can
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And next thing you know, your 
taste buds are going, yeah, you 

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know, I could use some 
satisfying right now. 

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And then you're buying their 
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happens. 
But it's even more sinister and 

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in out in the world because, and
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sinister as people become more 
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The more ads there are are 
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get people's attention because 
there's just so much now, so 

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much eye candy that we don't 
really even look at it anymore. 

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You know, look at all the ads 
that pop up as we're scrolling 

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through YouTube stuff. 
We don't really. 

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We wait for that 5 second timer 
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Pay attention to it. 
So what do they do to get our 

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attention? 
They have to be really loud and 

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really shocking. 
And the downside to that, it's 

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kind of what's happening with 
the demoralization from TikTok 

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and YouTube and all the stuff 
that's happening to our young 

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people and and all ages really 
where there's being incentivized

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and rewarded to be shocking. 
You know, I have two young boys 

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and they asked me a little while
ago, They said, dad, can we have

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our friend has a YouTube 
channel, Can we? 

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And I said absolutely no. 
And so why? 

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Because you know, we're there. 
I have good, great kids. 

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And I said that you're, it's not
you that I'm worried about. 

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It's the influence of 
understanding that once you 

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start to release videos and 
first of all, it gets you 

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addicted to being liked. 
That's why the buttons and the 

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user experience is like and 
follow because when you become 

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addicted to being liked and 
being liked as a currency, then 

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you start to self censor. 
You start to do whatever it 

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takes to increase your likes. 
It's it's like a dopamine hit, 

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right? 
You get. 

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Wow. 
I had a video that got a million

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views. 
How much more shocking do I have

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to be to get 2 million views? 
Let me keep going until you've 

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lost all all foundation of your 
moral principles. 

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And that's the goal. 
It's all demoralization. 

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And so I told my boys there's no
way because I trust you. 

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But no, no one's strong enough, 
really to survive that and to 

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not be not to be affected by it.
And to some degree that it will 

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just happen to you guys is that 
I love you too much to to to. 

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To allow this to affect your 
beautiful little minds in such a

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way that next thing you know 
you're you're trying to be 

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shocking because you realize you
got rewarded for that one 

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shocking video. 
And and this happened with my my

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friend's son where he said he 
put out a video that he didn't 

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think he should he should put 
out because it was just kind of 

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stupid and it was just like him 
slapping another friend in the 

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face or something like that. 
And they shouldn't even have put

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it on his YouTube channel and he
goes, but it got the most views.

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I got like 16,000 views. 
So do you want to do a video. 

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We do slapping videos and we 
slap and I said, and my son came

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home and he goes, dad, he goes, 
I I see what you mean. 

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Now he goes because this Kitty 
he goes suddenly went from doing

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his innocent stuff to like now 
he wants to do slapping videos 

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just because he's people love to
see people get slapped. 

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I said that's how it starts but 
next thing you know that's all 

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normalized for you so you take 
it to the next let's now let's 

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deck each other in the face. 
Let's see if we can cause these 

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other to bleed. 
Oh OK that gets old. 

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What do we do next? 
Let's. 

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Jump off a building and see if 
we can survive. 

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It just goes more extreme. 
And I said, and this is, this is

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part of the warfare that we're 
experiencing right now. 

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It is calculated war. 
It is Sun Tzu, the art of war, 

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to destroy an enemy from within,
to defeat an enemy without 

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fighting, to turn the enemy 
against itself so that it kills 

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itself. 
And that's what we're living 

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through right now. 
So a couple things you just said

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really resonated me. 
Nope, #1. 

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If everybody wants to do the 
thought experiment of just a 

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mattering imagining, you know, 
sort of a fluffy, buttery 

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popcorn at the movie theater, 
you can hear it popping, You can

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smell it, and you can think of 
how salty it tastes and suddenly

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realize, oh, my mouth is 
watering. 

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I'm thinking about popcorn and 
you're not hungry and you don't 

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want popcorn. 
And so that obviously is very a 

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successful technique. 
It's been used for a long time, 

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the same way as, you know, a red
juicy steak that's, you know, 

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mouth watering and all the other
words that we've always heard. 

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And these things conjure up 
images that make us go a certain

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place, right. 
So that's part one. 

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The second thing you talked 
about is the escalation of 

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stupidity. 
I think it's what I would call 

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it on the YouTube thing, right. 
Looking for those likes and and 

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I got to grow up seeing that. 
I never had any interest in it. 

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But there was a show called 
Jackass. 

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These guys made a career out of 
it. 

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They made millions of dollars 
beating the hell out of each 

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other and and really doing 
serious damage to their bodies. 

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I think probably to their 
intellect and their end to their

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souls at the end. 
So how do you know you're out 

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there keeping your kids away 
from it? 

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I think that's the right 
instinct. 

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I do the same. 
How do we, you know is there an 

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armor that you can walk in? 
Because we can't get away from 

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the world where we're going to 
be barraged by the stuff. 

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So how do you, how do you 
insulate yourself from that? 

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Sort of, maybe insidious evil, 
that insidious creeping in that 

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narrative that comes in. 
Well, I can tell you how I how I

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help my children make the 
highest choices in a world 

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that's constantly tempting them 
away from their highest choices.

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And that is first and foremost, 
I teach them through what they 

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want and not through what I want
or what their mother wants. 

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For them, that's a very 
important thing and a mistake 

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that most parents make. 
Where it's I need you to do 

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this. 
I want you to be. 

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I want your room to be more 
clean. 

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I want you to. 
And the kids have values. 

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They have goals. 
They have wants and desires. 

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And you have to understand the 
psychology of One thing to 

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really understand is our first 
communication that we learned 

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was we became hungry as new 
infants and the hunger. 

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Caused an involuntary reaction, 
which was crying. 

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And then we were given this soft
thing called a nipple, and we 

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had the food and the soothing 
that we needed. 

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And then two hours later, we did
it again. 

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And we got it again. 
And then two hours later we 

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went, oh, oh, I'm learning here.
I get, oh, OK. 

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So our first line of getting 
what we want is actually through

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the process of manipulation. 
So we're using our emotions. 

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We learn OKI can cry. 
And then I get what I want and 

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we. 
Later, when crying becomes 

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uncool, we start to manipulate 
emotionally in other ways. 

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And so if you understand that 
we're constantly doing things to

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get what we want in this life, 
then you can understand that 

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that's a very powerful way to to
teach our children. 

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You say, I I want to help you 
get what you want. 

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I want, I want you to have what 
you want. 

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If it's something that's 
actually good for you, and I 

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want you to have that. 
And so let's start looking at I 

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can tell you now from an elder 
position, from somebody who's 

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lived a lot more life than you 
have. 

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I can tell you the mistakes that
I made and how many times I went

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the long route when I could have
just taken the short route and 

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obtained what I wanted much 
faster with much less suffering.

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But I didn't have this 
instructions in my life. 

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I didn't have a father in my 
life to tell me these things. 

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And so I took the long route on 
on most things. 

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I I don't regret that. 
And so in that. 

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Understanding that, I also don't
want to rob you of your 

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experience and your right to 
fail because it's important. 

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It teaches us character and 
grit. 

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So I don't want to insulate you 
from learning the do's and 

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don'ts of life. 
But I'm going to offer you each 

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way a clear directive that lets 
you know this is the short path 

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directly to what you want, and 
this is the long path choose. 

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It's up to you. 
That's your life. 

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That's that's your life 
experience that you get to 

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choose and I'll be here for you 
no matter what path you choose. 

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But but understand there's a 
choice. 

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There's always a choice. 
And so and then it's also 

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understanding that the mind is 
meant to learn through 

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symbology, through through 
visuals. 

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It's why movies are so, so 
important. 

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You get 24 frames to 30 frames a
second, 30 pictures per second 

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flashing in front of your mind. 
And that's why they're so 

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important, because that's how 
the brain was taught to learn 

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through symbology, through 
imagery, and so most parents 

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don't use that enough. 
I use a lot of metaphor with my 

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children and visual metaphor. 
So I'll tell you one quick one 

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that has become quite popular 
within our family and and 

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friends, families, because 
there's a big issue, 

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particularly with boys and video
games. 

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It's just it's such a luring 
drug that you give them a tiny 

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bit of time, which is all my 
wife and I have ever allowed. 

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Yet they just want more. 
And I didn't get this until we 

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were at a water park one day and
my son were there for like 2 

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hours and he goes, how much long
we going to be? 

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Her dad and I go all day. 
Why? 

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What? 
What's going on? 

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He said I just really wanted to 
get home. 

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You want to go home? 
We're at a water park, man. 

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It's hot outside. 
What's going on? 

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So what's really going on? 
My kids are really honest with 

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me. 
He goes, well, I have 1/2 hour 

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left on Minecraft. 
I'm like, wow, do you want to 

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sacrifice the rest of your day 
at a water park for 30 minutes 

448
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:19,760
on Minecraft? 
Interesting. 

449
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,200
That's the lure of this. 
So we had to draw back and and 

450
00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:27,000
start changing the way we allow 
our kids to interact with this. 

451
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:30,800
And so one day, as I realized, I
said I don't want to, 

452
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,640
particularly with what we just 
lived through. 

453
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,840
I don't want to teach my 
children to just bow to 

454
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:38,000
authority. 
I don't want. 

455
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,480
I'm not the dad that says do it 
because I said so. 

456
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,330
That's now you're teaching them 
to not logically respect the 

457
00:22:44,330 --> 00:22:45,690
choice and understand the 
choice. 

458
00:22:45,690 --> 00:22:48,130
Just do it because someone 
bigger than you, more powerful 

459
00:22:48,130 --> 00:22:50,610
than you said do it. 
What age bracket are your are 

460
00:22:50,610 --> 00:22:52,170
your kids that are making these 
decisions? 

461
00:22:52,250 --> 00:22:53,370
Right now they're 9:00 and 
12:00. 

462
00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:54,810
They just turned 9. 
And 12:00. 

463
00:22:54,810 --> 00:22:58,130
So out of curiosity, before you 
get too deep into that, when did

464
00:22:58,130 --> 00:23:01,610
you start going with the I'm 
going to let you choose your 

465
00:23:01,610 --> 00:23:03,610
path and I'm going to give you 
kind of the two options as I see

466
00:23:03,610 --> 00:23:03,890
it. 
What? 

467
00:23:03,890 --> 00:23:05,650
What age brackets you you dive 
into that? 

468
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:08,430
Five or six, Each of them five 
or six. 

469
00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:09,910
You know and I've got a six year
old right now. 

470
00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,230
So I'm just trying to, I'm kind 
of engaging how the response 

471
00:23:12,230 --> 00:23:13,710
looks. 
Obviously there's your 4 year 

472
00:23:13,710 --> 00:23:14,910
old doesn't do real well with 
that. 

473
00:23:15,390 --> 00:23:18,590
Yeah, you know there's there's 
you grow with it. 

474
00:23:18,590 --> 00:23:20,230
You know, you know how much rope
to give them. 

475
00:23:20,230 --> 00:23:23,270
And so you grow with it and you 
realize this is too much to put 

476
00:23:23,270 --> 00:23:24,910
on a little guy to make choices 
like this. 

477
00:23:24,950 --> 00:23:27,150
And and then as they get a 
little bit older, you realize 

478
00:23:27,150 --> 00:23:30,030
they're they're more and more 
capable of making responsible 

479
00:23:30,030 --> 00:23:33,820
choices. 
And and the way that I found, we

480
00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:36,860
reached the point where I told 
my wife, I said, you know, I'm 

481
00:23:36,860 --> 00:23:38,820
hearing both of us raise our 
voice too much. 

482
00:23:38,980 --> 00:23:41,340
And that's not cool because I 
know what happens. 

483
00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:42,860
They're going to rebel against 
their voice. 

484
00:23:42,860 --> 00:23:45,180
And our voice right now holds a 
lot of power. 

485
00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:47,500
The boys really listen to us and
they really respect us. 

486
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,660
And I don't want to ever cross 
that bridge where suddenly now 

487
00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:54,060
the voice is just noise and it's
a nuisance and whatever, Dad, I 

488
00:23:54,060 --> 00:23:55,980
don't want to reach that. 
We don't have to reach that. 

489
00:23:56,500 --> 00:23:58,020
Some people think that's just a 
normal. 

490
00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:00,020
That's just a natural process. 
But it's not. 

491
00:24:00,020 --> 00:24:03,490
It's become normal, but we're 
also very confused between 

492
00:24:03,490 --> 00:24:04,730
what's normal and what's 
natural. 

493
00:24:04,730 --> 00:24:10,090
It's not natural and other 
cultures, the older a parent got

494
00:24:10,130 --> 00:24:14,170
until even grandparents the the 
the younger generations gained 

495
00:24:14,170 --> 00:24:16,490
more respect for them because 
they were actually taught that 

496
00:24:16,770 --> 00:24:19,290
the older you are the wiser you 
are In our culture. 

497
00:24:19,290 --> 00:24:22,610
It's the older you are, the 
more, you know, detached you are

498
00:24:22,610 --> 00:24:26,610
from anything cool and and you 
don't understand the iPhone, so 

499
00:24:26,610 --> 00:24:31,350
you can't be that cool. 
And so I I sat down with my boys

500
00:24:31,350 --> 00:24:32,350
one night. 
I said, you know how I don't 

501
00:24:32,350 --> 00:24:34,630
want to do this where we're just
constantly telling them, you 

502
00:24:34,630 --> 00:24:36,950
know, they can't have something 
that they love. 

503
00:24:37,630 --> 00:24:39,510
So I sat down and I said, hey 
guys, I want to tell you a 

504
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:43,190
little story. 
And I said, first of all, I want

505
00:24:43,190 --> 00:24:45,190
you to picture a virgin wheat 
field. 

506
00:24:45,910 --> 00:24:47,390
And my little guy goes, what's 
virgin mean? 

507
00:24:47,390 --> 00:24:50,270
I said, I mean untouched. 
Like no one's ever walked in 

508
00:24:50,270 --> 00:24:52,510
that field. 
So like just picture, sun's 

509
00:24:52,510 --> 00:24:54,470
going down golden wheat field. 
And I said, I want you to 

510
00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:57,570
picture crossing that wheat 
field, walking through it once. 

511
00:24:57,650 --> 00:25:00,570
What happened to that wheat 
filled and they both got be 

512
00:25:00,730 --> 00:25:02,450
trampled. 
And I said, yeah, but it would 

513
00:25:02,450 --> 00:25:03,810
come back. 
You know that, right, Like in a 

514
00:25:03,810 --> 00:25:06,090
couple hours that the wheat 
would just pop back up and 

515
00:25:06,090 --> 00:25:08,650
that's what it does with gravity
and it would do its job and it 

516
00:25:08,650 --> 00:25:11,130
would spring right back up. 
But if you walked that wheat, 

517
00:25:11,130 --> 00:25:14,770
filled every day for a year, and
then all the animals started to 

518
00:25:14,770 --> 00:25:17,250
follow your path because that's 
what happens, and other people 

519
00:25:17,250 --> 00:25:19,690
started to follow your path, 
pretty soon, just like the 

520
00:25:19,690 --> 00:25:22,530
hiking trails we've been on, it 
would become a permanent dirt 

521
00:25:22,530 --> 00:25:27,170
path and the the wheat would 
just give way to that and it 

522
00:25:27,170 --> 00:25:29,890
would never come back again. 
So that's what happens. 

523
00:25:29,890 --> 00:25:32,370
You have neuro pathways in your 
mind and anything you do on a 

524
00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:35,970
repetitive basis basis digs a a 
rut. 

525
00:25:36,410 --> 00:25:39,890
The deeper the more you do, the 
longer per day you go, the 

526
00:25:39,890 --> 00:25:43,930
deeper that rut becomes. 
And these people, my boys, are 

527
00:25:43,930 --> 00:25:45,810
really keyed into what's really 
going on in the world. 

528
00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:47,170
I don't hold anything back from 
them. 

529
00:25:47,530 --> 00:25:50,570
I said these people that are 
trying to get into your mind and

530
00:25:50,570 --> 00:25:53,610
indoctrinate you and turn you 
against your country and your 

531
00:25:53,610 --> 00:25:57,920
family and all of that, they are
designing these games to create 

532
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,800
that rut and then they know 
exactly what rut to channel 

533
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,120
their information into. 
So you actually lose the minion 

534
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,200
over the choices of that 
thought. 

535
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,200
I say you've ever seen water run
down a hill. 

536
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,120
It will find a little crevice 
and instead of instead of it 

537
00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:13,920
being spread out, it gets 
stronger and faster once it gets

538
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,120
into the rut and it runs 
together downhill. 

539
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,160
And it can expedite its journey 
downhill. 

540
00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:20,830
Well, in the same way, they can 
pump their thought into those 

541
00:26:20,830 --> 00:26:23,470
ruts. 
And it will rush so fast through

542
00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:26,190
that rut that you won't even 
have a a chance to make your own

543
00:26:26,190 --> 00:26:27,670
choice. 
Do you understand what I'm 

544
00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:30,830
talking about? 
That's the danger of doing that.

545
00:26:30,830 --> 00:26:34,390
And so now I'm going to let you 
choose, you know, moving 

546
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:36,310
forward. 
And that's when they started, 

547
00:26:36,350 --> 00:26:39,910
you know, my little guy started 
bringing me his iPad, saying I 

548
00:26:39,910 --> 00:26:41,910
was really tempted today to go 
over time. 

549
00:26:41,910 --> 00:26:44,310
And so I want you to hold this 
until next Friday when I'm 

550
00:26:44,350 --> 00:26:46,310
allowed to play with it because 
you realize he's like, this 

551
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:49,470
stuff has power over me. 
Like I I get stuck I see a 

552
00:26:49,470 --> 00:26:51,750
thumbnail I go down the rabbit 
hole next thing I know and 1/2 

553
00:26:51,750 --> 00:26:55,110
hour has gone by and I said we 
all deal with that but trust me 

554
00:26:55,550 --> 00:26:58,790
and but he was he sort of make 
his own choice to realize I 

555
00:26:58,790 --> 00:27:02,190
don't want that to happen to my 
mind and you know and I always 

556
00:27:02,190 --> 00:27:04,870
tell them then This is why you 
want to have dominion over your 

557
00:27:04,870 --> 00:27:07,470
thoughts because you know if you
want to create something 

558
00:27:07,470 --> 00:27:10,590
spectacular and and you want to 
innovate and you want to be a 

559
00:27:10,590 --> 00:27:12,070
leader and you want to be 
successful. 

560
00:27:12,350 --> 00:27:15,550
It all requires you to have all 
of your functions of your of 

561
00:27:15,550 --> 00:27:18,660
your mind working, and none of 
those ruts should be so deep 

562
00:27:18,660 --> 00:27:21,420
that all of your creative 
thoughts just get stuck in that 

563
00:27:21,420 --> 00:27:24,460
Channel and flushed away. 
You want to be able to have fire

564
00:27:24,460 --> 00:27:28,100
on all the synapse and and you 
have a fully functional mind. 

565
00:27:28,100 --> 00:27:29,380
Yes. 
Is that what you want? 

566
00:27:29,380 --> 00:27:31,340
Because that's what I want. 
But maybe you don't. 

567
00:27:31,340 --> 00:27:32,340
They. 
Of course I do. 

568
00:27:32,780 --> 00:27:34,580
So okay. 
This is what I'm protecting you 

569
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:36,980
from and this is what I'm 
fighting for with you. 

570
00:27:37,540 --> 00:27:40,100
And then they understand. 
Now it's not just Dad taking 

571
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:42,780
something away from me, it's Dad
fighting for me. 

572
00:27:43,220 --> 00:27:45,900
And that makes a big difference 
in how children learn and listen

573
00:27:45,900 --> 00:27:50,090
to their parents. 
It's a really intense 

574
00:27:50,290 --> 00:27:52,330
conversation with a young 
person, but also very 

575
00:27:52,330 --> 00:27:54,050
impressive. 
It sounds like you have 

576
00:27:54,050 --> 00:27:58,410
exceptional sons. 
Do you think Americans want to 

577
00:27:58,650 --> 00:28:01,050
maintain those pathways of 
creativity and think on their 

578
00:28:01,050 --> 00:28:02,650
own and not be owned by 
technology? 

579
00:28:03,490 --> 00:28:06,570
That's a great question because 
the answer is yes and no. 

580
00:28:07,770 --> 00:28:13,090
Intrinsically, primarily yes. 
But because we become so 

581
00:28:13,090 --> 00:28:16,670
conditioned to follow the leader
and have realized that when we 

582
00:28:16,670 --> 00:28:20,070
follow the leader that we can 
also escape responsibility. 

583
00:28:20,430 --> 00:28:21,750
That's what it is. 
People don't want to be 

584
00:28:21,750 --> 00:28:22,830
responsible. 
They don't want to go. 

585
00:28:22,830 --> 00:28:25,950
I actually caused this. 
That divorce was my fault. 

586
00:28:25,950 --> 00:28:28,910
Oops, oops. 
That my my kids are messed up. 

587
00:28:28,910 --> 00:28:31,310
And it's probably because I 
didn't really even look into the

588
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:34,230
school I enrolled them in. 
I didn't meet with the teacher. 

589
00:28:34,510 --> 00:28:35,910
I just it was the closest 
school. 

590
00:28:35,910 --> 00:28:37,710
It was 2 miles away. 
So I said yes. 

591
00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:40,630
They don't want to understand 
like you, the choices that you 

592
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:43,910
made out of your addiction to 
comfort and convenience is 

593
00:28:43,910 --> 00:28:46,840
probably why those things, 
elements of your life, are not 

594
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:51,200
working. 
And so I there are a lot of 

595
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,960
people that just want to be told
what to do because they don't 

596
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,680
want to be responsible for their
choices. 

597
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,240
And then they can just blame it 
on it. 

598
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,240
You know, it's Biden's fault. 
Oh, it's Trump's fault. 

599
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,560
It's whatever. 
It's like I OK. 

600
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,280
But the every time we do that, 
we're giving our power to those 

601
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,840
people and to others. 
We're giving our power away the 

602
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,600
moment we say, how did I create 
this? 

603
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,680
And I may not be been the one 
that facilitated, but I I 

604
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,760
somehow participated in this. 
And this is the This is the 

605
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,280
moment for us to wake up, 
particularly as men, to just 

606
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,240
really own our behavior of the 
last several decades, to to ask 

607
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,920
ourselves tough questions Like 
like how much time have I given 

608
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,880
my children compared to how much
time I've given televised 

609
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,160
sports. 
Oh, a lot of fathers don't want 

610
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,480
to ask themselves that one 
because they've given themselves

611
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:46,600
hours a day with their favorite 
sports, you know, team and then 

612
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,640
not that with their children, 
you know, and they can tell you,

613
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,440
you know, the arm length and 
the, the free throw average of 

614
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,400
all their favorite players. 
We ask them their child's 

615
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,440
favorite color and they'll go, I
don't know. 

616
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,480
And it's like, well, that's a 
little topsy turvy. 

617
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,480
It's a little backwards, the 
thing that you should care about

618
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,840
most, the thing that you should 
know about most. 

619
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:10,040
And that's really a calling for 
us to become intimately involved

620
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:13,240
with our children again, 
particularly at a on a verbal 

621
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:17,360
level, to come back to having 
real dialogues with our children

622
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,360
every single day. 
It not a day goes by that I 

623
00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,000
don't sit down and at least say 
tell me your favorite part of 

624
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,600
the date of your day today. 
Why was that so cool or why was 

625
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,560
that so bad or what? 
What happened with that? 

626
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,480
And and I you met a new friend 
today. 

627
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,880
What was he like? 
What was she like? 

628
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:33,880
Cool. 
Tell me about that. 

629
00:30:34,260 --> 00:30:37,100
Let me engage and let me really 
listen to them and ask 

630
00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:38,500
questions. 
They can tell the difference. 

631
00:30:38,780 --> 00:30:41,100
When I'm going, I'm flipping 
through my phone looking around.

632
00:30:41,460 --> 00:30:43,700
They can feel it. 
But when I'm like, that's 

633
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:45,540
interesting. 
I'm laughing at the stuff that's

634
00:30:45,540 --> 00:30:48,820
funny and I'm and I'm and I'm, 
you know, I'm leaning in. 

635
00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:53,140
They they feel that and they 
they they grow up knowing that 

636
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:55,220
their voice matters. 
And look at what we're doing 

637
00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:58,300
right now with our society. 
So many people are just like 

638
00:30:59,020 --> 00:31:01,140
they don't know how much their 
voice matters. 

639
00:31:01,140 --> 00:31:04,870
If we all spoke up right now, if
that was just one action, I 

640
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:08,110
could, I could wave a magic wand
and and to make the world a 

641
00:31:08,110 --> 00:31:11,150
better place right now it'd be 
use your damn voice. 

642
00:31:11,670 --> 00:31:14,710
Like speak up, everybody who's 
afraid to lose their job, who 

643
00:31:14,710 --> 00:31:16,390
sees the tyranny right in front 
of them. 

644
00:31:16,630 --> 00:31:18,310
But they're like, I just can't 
lose my job. 

645
00:31:18,630 --> 00:31:20,310
Guess what? 
You're going to lose your job if

646
00:31:20,310 --> 00:31:22,310
you don't speak out. 
That's what's coming. 

647
00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:25,190
So it's like it it's prolonged. 
You might have it for another 

648
00:31:25,190 --> 00:31:27,590
six months or a year. 
But it's common. 

649
00:31:27,910 --> 00:31:30,070
If you really want to save your 
job, speak up. 

650
00:31:30,070 --> 00:31:34,270
Because if that job, if you lose
a job because you speak out, 

651
00:31:34,270 --> 00:31:37,750
that's not the job you want and 
you got to trust that there's 

652
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:39,950
something else that's waiting 
there for you. 

653
00:31:39,950 --> 00:31:44,190
There's something divine that's 
orchestrating this, this 

654
00:31:44,190 --> 00:31:46,870
experience we call life. 
And all I know is everyone I've 

655
00:31:46,870 --> 00:31:49,030
interviewed. 
Of course, I've only interviewed

656
00:31:49,030 --> 00:31:51,790
people who've spoken out because
they're the ones that are 

657
00:31:51,790 --> 00:31:56,510
worthwhile sitting down with and
and they've all, I've asked them

658
00:31:56,510 --> 00:31:58,710
all the same question, Do you 
regret speaking out? 

659
00:31:59,230 --> 00:32:01,390
100% of the people say, oh God 
no. 

660
00:32:02,390 --> 00:32:04,470
It's like I didn't have my. 
I didn't know my purpose was 

661
00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:06,950
until I spoke out. 
It was bad in the beginning. 

662
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:08,630
Yeah. 
It was shocking to have your 

663
00:32:08,630 --> 00:32:12,270
friends and family turn on you 
and but then you realize those 

664
00:32:12,270 --> 00:32:15,590
aren't my friends and if my 
family's that shallow F them, 

665
00:32:15,590 --> 00:32:17,630
I'm moving on. 
It's like it honestly it's like 

666
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:19,670
you're not going to I'm not 
invited to Thanksgiving anymore 

667
00:32:19,670 --> 00:32:23,150
because I wouldn't allow an 
experimental toxin injected into

668
00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:25,750
my bloodstream. 
You know I'm the bad one. 

669
00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:28,350
It's like okay you got to deal 
with that and look they'll come 

670
00:32:28,350 --> 00:32:30,510
around in time. 
They're all learning, waking up 

671
00:32:31,070 --> 00:32:33,510
and and then be there to forgive
them, be there to understand 

672
00:32:33,510 --> 00:32:35,030
they were in under hypnotic 
spell. 

673
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:36,750
They love you. 
It has nothing to do with love. 

674
00:32:37,230 --> 00:32:39,030
It actually has a lot to do with
love. 

675
00:32:39,110 --> 00:32:44,230
That was their love for life. 
They're so afraid to die because

676
00:32:44,230 --> 00:32:47,630
they love life that they're 
willing to cast people that they

677
00:32:47,630 --> 00:32:50,230
love out of their lives. 
So if you can just realize 

678
00:32:50,230 --> 00:32:53,110
there's something benevolent and
beautiful at the core of that 

679
00:32:53,390 --> 00:32:58,270
reaction that the media and all 
the hypnotizers are aware of and

680
00:32:58,270 --> 00:33:04,170
using against us, and and then 
learn how to redirect that love 

681
00:33:04,170 --> 00:33:08,930
for life into something that's 
not coerced by fear but that's 

682
00:33:08,930 --> 00:33:13,530
pulled by our reverence for 
life. 

683
00:33:14,810 --> 00:33:16,930
There's something very 
enlightened about what you just 

684
00:33:16,930 --> 00:33:18,170
said right there. 
I'm going to have to take a 

685
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:19,770
moment to process it. 
I want to go back. 

686
00:33:19,770 --> 00:33:22,610
I also want to talk about what 
the the the compliance with 

687
00:33:22,610 --> 00:33:26,250
tyranny, which I think is a 
relevant experience for most 

688
00:33:26,250 --> 00:33:28,770
people recently at trying to 
comply their way out of it. 

689
00:33:29,330 --> 00:33:33,010
Maybe we can touch on just your 
historical analysis from looking

690
00:33:33,010 --> 00:33:34,210
back. 
It's particularly with this 

691
00:33:34,210 --> 00:33:36,930
perspective. 
Have people always been willing 

692
00:33:36,930 --> 00:33:40,650
to surrender agency in order to 
reduce their responsibility? 

693
00:33:40,650 --> 00:33:42,850
Do you think that's a, is that a
human condition? 

694
00:33:42,850 --> 00:33:45,130
Is that an American condition? 
Is that a recent phenomenon? 

695
00:33:45,130 --> 00:33:46,290
Where, where does that fit, you 
think? 

696
00:33:47,090 --> 00:33:49,570
Well, I've only been here 50 
years. 

697
00:33:49,610 --> 00:33:53,170
I would say my experience of 
this life, it's it's always been

698
00:33:53,170 --> 00:33:58,660
the way it is, is that people 
have been led for generations 

699
00:33:58,700 --> 00:34:03,900
into believing that there are 
others that are more suited in 

700
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:08,659
leading their personal lives. 
And if we just elect the right 

701
00:34:08,659 --> 00:34:10,780
person, everything's going to 
change. 

702
00:34:10,980 --> 00:34:15,500
Never has, never will. 
Can improvements take place? 

703
00:34:15,500 --> 00:34:16,980
Absolutely. 
And I think there's some 

704
00:34:16,980 --> 00:34:19,020
improvements that are about to 
take place in 2024. 

705
00:34:19,020 --> 00:34:21,300
It's going to get a heck of a 
lot worse before it gets better.

706
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,780
But I I am very optimistic about
what's coming. 

707
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:26,280
But is that the end all? 
No. 

708
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,320
We'll be right back in this 
position in a few years if we 

709
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,440
don't wake up and take 
responsibility for how we got 

710
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,280
here. 
And but I there's a reason I 

711
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,280
called my latest movie, The 
Great Awakening, because I 

712
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:43,199
believe that that's what we're 
living in right now is a great 

713
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:48,159
awakening where people are 
remembering truly who and what 

714
00:34:48,159 --> 00:34:51,670
they are. 
And that on one hand, when you 

715
00:34:51,670 --> 00:34:55,190
go, it's just so sad that we've 
lost trust in everything, The 

716
00:34:55,190 --> 00:34:58,990
very industry and people that 
we're supposed to have most 

717
00:34:58,990 --> 00:35:02,430
trust for our medical industry 
of anything. 

718
00:35:02,510 --> 00:35:04,830
I mean, we're supposed we should
trust them more than our our, 

719
00:35:04,910 --> 00:35:07,390
our neighborhood priest. 
Because these are the people 

720
00:35:07,390 --> 00:35:10,630
that are dealing with your life,
your health, the ones that you 

721
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:12,110
go to. 
When you say something's wrong 

722
00:35:12,110 --> 00:35:14,190
with me, What is it? 
What should I do to correct it 

723
00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:18,450
so I can continue living? 
We've realized that there's a 

724
00:35:18,450 --> 00:35:23,730
great majority of them that are 
either incredibly wicked, but 

725
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:28,210
the vast majority are just 
horribly educated by Rockefeller

726
00:35:28,890 --> 00:35:32,290
medicine and have been trained 
and they didn't know how 

727
00:35:32,290 --> 00:35:35,330
indoctrinated. 
This is why I called Pandemic 2 

728
00:35:35,330 --> 00:35:38,890
indoctrination, because all the 
doctors are indoctrinated. 

729
00:35:39,850 --> 00:35:41,770
But we've reached this point of 
going I don't trust the 

730
00:35:41,770 --> 00:35:43,370
hospitals. 
Now I have a movie coming out 

731
00:35:43,370 --> 00:35:46,960
called Bad Medicine about I 
think horrible things that have 

732
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,240
happened and continue to happen 
in the hospitals today with 

733
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,800
Remdesivir and ventilators 
killing most of the COVID deaths

734
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:56,400
are people that were killed by 
this bio weapon. 

735
00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:00,880
And and it's it's a real scary 
thing to consider that and 

736
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,720
especially when you see the 
evidence and you hear the the 

737
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,080
numerous testimonies of people 
who literally went in for a 

738
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,720
broken elbow. 
And next thing you know they're 

739
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,640
they're testing positive for 
COVID and they're on Remdesivir 

740
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,310
and having kidney failure and 
having it ventilator shoved down

741
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:16,070
their throat and they're 
suffocating to death or they're 

742
00:36:16,070 --> 00:36:17,990
dead. 
How many times I've heard that 

743
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:19,830
story in the past two years, 
it's frightening. 

744
00:36:20,910 --> 00:36:24,870
But in answer to your question I
think it goes back to what I 

745
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:29,030
said a moment ago. 
It's become normal that we 

746
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:35,270
submit to these authoritarian 
voices, but it's not natural. 

747
00:36:35,870 --> 00:36:42,170
We were here and born to be 
sovereign, independent people on

748
00:36:42,170 --> 00:36:45,210
this planet to contribute. 
It's like the cells in in in 

749
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:47,410
your body, trillions of cells in
your body. 

750
00:36:48,810 --> 00:36:51,490
There's no, it's not like a 
beehive where there's a work or 

751
00:36:51,490 --> 00:36:54,610
bee that everyone's enslaved to.
It's each cell has a job, and in

752
00:36:54,610 --> 00:36:57,890
its job is vital to the survival
of that Organism called your 

753
00:36:57,890 --> 00:37:00,330
body. 
And it might be the cell at the 

754
00:37:00,330 --> 00:37:03,210
tip of your right toe and the 
crown of your head. 

755
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:06,370
And there's cells in both and 
even though they're they're 

756
00:37:06,370 --> 00:37:09,970
separated by the maximum 
distance, they're working for 

757
00:37:09,970 --> 00:37:12,970
the same purpose and that is to 
bring life to that Organism of 

758
00:37:12,970 --> 00:37:17,410
yours. 
And we as a metaphor, we are the

759
00:37:17,410 --> 00:37:21,450
cells in the body of life, these
humans, and we're diseased 

760
00:37:21,650 --> 00:37:22,930
because we're killing each 
other. 

761
00:37:22,930 --> 00:37:26,210
So if it's cells in your body 
start to fight the red cells 

762
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:31,930
start to fight the the the the 
white cells you have disease and

763
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:33,690
and that's what's happened on 
the planet here is we don't 

764
00:37:33,690 --> 00:37:36,490
understand that we're all part 
of the same Organism and we've 

765
00:37:36,490 --> 00:37:38,210
been turned against each other. 
Look at it. 

766
00:37:38,210 --> 00:37:40,210
Look at the way they just keep 
slicing and dicing us. 

767
00:37:40,210 --> 00:37:42,090
This is all part of the divide 
and conquer game. 

768
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:46,690
I think of one of the greatest 
examples of it is the L, GB, TQI

769
00:37:46,690 --> 00:37:48,730
plus whatever the heck it's at 
today. 

770
00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:54,650
Because used to be gay people 
that it was gay and bisexual. 

771
00:37:54,650 --> 00:37:55,610
That one. 
That makes sense. 

772
00:37:55,650 --> 00:37:57,970
Gay and bisexual. 
All the women want to be called 

773
00:37:57,970 --> 00:37:59,290
lesbian. 
I remember when I first heard 

774
00:37:59,290 --> 00:38:00,930
that I was like, what? 
What does that mean? 

775
00:38:00,930 --> 00:38:02,610
That's weird. 
Why aren't they just women? 

776
00:38:02,930 --> 00:38:05,550
Got it. 
Gay, lesbian, mysexual. 

777
00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:07,230
OK, three things. 
God, I can remember that. 

778
00:38:07,830 --> 00:38:10,710
And now it's like, oh wow, 
where's this thing gone? 

779
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:13,870
That's a perfect metaphor for 
the way that they divide us, 

780
00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:17,750
right? 
Race and height and weight and 

781
00:38:17,750 --> 00:38:22,710
and class and territory. 
It's the more they can divide us

782
00:38:23,110 --> 00:38:26,350
to where we keep seeing our 
differences instead of our vast 

783
00:38:26,350 --> 00:38:29,030
similarities. 
Just meeting at the place called

784
00:38:29,030 --> 00:38:30,830
humanity. 
Like we're cells in the body. 

785
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:35,940
It just meeting there, going our
life depends on us, all of us. 

786
00:38:36,740 --> 00:38:38,820
And we're all we're all 
critical. 

787
00:38:39,180 --> 00:38:42,380
We're all here. 
This is a guy that coined a 

788
00:38:42,380 --> 00:38:46,220
phrase I used for years. 
I I was a nihilist, an atheist. 

789
00:38:46,220 --> 00:38:48,140
I said we're just Moss on a 
rock, people. 

790
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:50,540
You're all trying to make sense 
out of something that's 

791
00:38:50,540 --> 00:38:53,940
meaningless, Moss on a rock. 
We're just growing with a little

792
00:38:53,940 --> 00:38:56,740
bit of consciousness, a little 
bit of free will, trying to make

793
00:38:56,740 --> 00:39:00,740
it mean something. 
I have grown out of that now 

794
00:39:00,740 --> 00:39:03,660
because I I do believe that 
there is a very calculated 

795
00:39:03,660 --> 00:39:08,500
experience that we have come 
here to find ourselves in and to

796
00:39:08,500 --> 00:39:15,380
fight for the the reverence of 
life itself, of of evolution, of

797
00:39:15,380 --> 00:39:18,620
growing, of learning. 
There's something in there. 

798
00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:21,660
I've seen it too many times. 
I've experienced it directly too

799
00:39:21,660 --> 00:39:24,700
many times that this life isn't 
just happenstance. 

800
00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:29,340
There's something really divine 
and magical behind the scenes, 

801
00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:33,940
and the more that we can slow 
down and and open up to 

802
00:39:33,940 --> 00:39:38,420
perceiving what that might be. 
I've I I've stayed away from the

803
00:39:38,420 --> 00:39:41,420
word God forever until just the 
past few years. 

804
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:42,700
Now I'm not afraid to use 
anymore. 

805
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:45,700
Because that's interesting. 
It's very interesting, 

806
00:39:45,740 --> 00:39:48,580
particularly for me, if you know
where I came from with all of 

807
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:51,300
that. 
And it's like I can't deny 

808
00:39:51,300 --> 00:39:53,740
anymore. 
And I know that the more I allow

809
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:57,980
that to be part of my life, the 
better my life gets. 

810
00:39:57,980 --> 00:40:00,900
And that's what matters to me. 
The end result is like I I want 

811
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:04,020
to like everyone else. 
I I want to have a good life. 

812
00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,820
I want to be happy and healthy. 
Above all, I want my wife and my

813
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:11,260
children to be happy and healthy
and to know how to generate 

814
00:40:11,260 --> 00:40:12,900
that. 
To not think that somebody 

815
00:40:12,900 --> 00:40:15,420
else's responsibility to give 
them, but they generate it. 

816
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:19,860
Selfgeneration and and all I 
know is that when I have an 

817
00:40:19,860 --> 00:40:23,700
awareness that there is a divine
intelligence working through me 

818
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:28,020
for me that. 
Life starts to fall into place 

819
00:40:28,060 --> 00:40:32,100
and these little dramas that 
used to happen daily, I just 

820
00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,660
don't know where they went to. 
But they're thank God they're 

821
00:40:34,660 --> 00:40:37,500
not there anymore. 
That's often at least I'd still 

822
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:41,300
deal with you know, stuff that 
comes up and challenges. 

823
00:40:41,300 --> 00:40:45,460
But for the most part life flows
and I'm. 

824
00:40:45,460 --> 00:40:48,380
I'm in love with the love of my 
life and I could not have a 

825
00:40:48,380 --> 00:40:52,300
better relationship with my 
children and what what could be 

826
00:40:52,300 --> 00:40:53,540
more important? 
I don't know. 

827
00:40:53,740 --> 00:40:57,540
I been everywhere, experienced 
everything and nothing could top

828
00:40:57,540 --> 00:41:00,660
this experience of having a 
healthy, happy family. 

829
00:41:02,260 --> 00:41:04,660
I think that's probably 
universally true that there's 1A

830
00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:07,620
universal experience of the 
divine and then two I don't know

831
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:10,460
that there's any culture that is
that is shunned family or or a 

832
00:41:10,460 --> 00:41:12,700
productive family. 
So it's it's an interesting 

833
00:41:12,700 --> 00:41:14,980
thing to arrive at from a place 
that was the alternative. 

834
00:41:14,980 --> 00:41:18,340
For that let me let me lean into
a little questions about the the

835
00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:19,740
names of the the films that 
you've done. 

836
00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:21,900
So you've done three of them 
they they started off shorter. 

837
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:24,260
It looks like they got 
progressively longer and. 

838
00:41:24,460 --> 00:41:26,140
Endemic 3 Now The Great 
Awakening. 

839
00:41:26,140 --> 00:41:27,820
In fact, Ryan and I were just 
talking about this before we 

840
00:41:27,820 --> 00:41:30,700
came on and did this interview. 
And the question is, if there's 

841
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:33,180
a great awakening, it implies 
that people are asleep, which 

842
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:35,140
means we have to. 
I I come from a very skeptical 

843
00:41:35,140 --> 00:41:37,740
background of everything. 
So you have to prove to me when 

844
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:40,340
you give me a a a case when I 
was an investigator that there 

845
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:42,500
was even a crime. 
You've alleged a crime, but was 

846
00:41:42,500 --> 00:41:43,940
there a crime? 
Did it even line up with the 

847
00:41:43,940 --> 00:41:45,780
statute? 
And so for there to be a great 

848
00:41:45,780 --> 00:41:47,500
awakening, we need to have 
people asleep. 

849
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:50,500
What do you think the elements 
are that that showed you that 

850
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,470
people were asleep and then? 
And. 

851
00:41:53,470 --> 00:41:56,110
And what makes you think that 
they're waking up or or what 

852
00:41:56,110 --> 00:41:57,790
will help them wake up, if 
that's the case? 

853
00:41:58,430 --> 00:42:00,270
Well, I know because I was 
asleep. 

854
00:42:00,670 --> 00:42:03,190
And so I know what it feels like
to wake up. 

855
00:42:03,630 --> 00:42:07,430
And it's been a process since 
2016, when I was on the road 

856
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:09,590
with Bernie Sanders as a 
filmmaker, helping to grow his 

857
00:42:09,590 --> 00:42:13,950
grassroots campaign, that I I 
realized as I started to ask 

858
00:42:13,950 --> 00:42:17,350
tough questions to this 
democratic socialist movement 

859
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:20,230
that we were encountering at 
every stop from Los Angeles all 

860
00:42:20,230 --> 00:42:23,610
the way to Philadelphia, that 
there are a lot of really good 

861
00:42:23,610 --> 00:42:29,170
people that were fiercely 
supporting Bernie but didn't 

862
00:42:29,170 --> 00:42:30,890
fully understand what they were 
supporting. 

863
00:42:31,170 --> 00:42:34,730
And I was one of them. 
I started to ask questions like 

864
00:42:34,730 --> 00:42:36,970
I have at the beginning of the 
Great Awakening when I when I 

865
00:42:36,970 --> 00:42:40,410
realized that I asked, you know,
group of young groups of young 

866
00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:43,450
people what, what's the 
difference between socialism and

867
00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:46,740
democratic socialism? 
You know they have these I catch

868
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:49,500
phrases that they throw at and 
but the more I drill I'm 

869
00:42:49,660 --> 00:42:51,940
professional interviewer. 
So I I don't just settle for the

870
00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:54,580
first answer I asked just like 
you just said I asked to make 

871
00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:56,220
sense to me. 
I don't get that. 

872
00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,100
I'm going to ask you again, 
maybe another way, maybe a 

873
00:42:58,100 --> 00:43:01,100
deeper question until I 
understand what you mean here. 

874
00:43:01,780 --> 00:43:04,700
And I'm not a big fan of word 
salads. 

875
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,780
And so I I would ask again well 
how what is how does that vary 

876
00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:11,580
from the old socialism? 
Well, it's socialism. 

877
00:43:12,140 --> 00:43:14,260
But this is by and for The 
reason it didn't work before, 

878
00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:16,980
and it was deadly and horrible, 
was because that was controlled 

879
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:19,460
by, you know, oligarchs and all 
of that. 

880
00:43:19,460 --> 00:43:23,820
And, OK, so how is democratic 
socialism? 

881
00:43:24,140 --> 00:43:24,900
What is that? 
What? 

882
00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:28,460
Who controls that? 
Well, democracy by and for the 

883
00:43:28,460 --> 00:43:29,780
people. 
So the people control it. 

884
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:35,340
And I go, OK, and now democracy,
socialism is about owning the 

885
00:43:35,340 --> 00:43:37,860
means of production and making 
sure that there's no one at the 

886
00:43:37,860 --> 00:43:40,140
bottom, which sounds cool to me.
And you're helping. 

887
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:44,840
Everyone's helping each other. 
And and the the Uber rich, the, 

888
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,000
you know, they get taxed more so
that the people at the bottom 

889
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:49,920
aren't suffering. 
There isn't such a gap in 

890
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:50,680
classes. 
Yes. 

891
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,880
Cool. 
Who collects those taxes? 

892
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,400
And they would go, I guess 
that'd be the the government. 

893
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,880
And I'd say, do you trust the 
government? 

894
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,160
Of course. 
Everyone. 

895
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,560
No. 
No. 

896
00:44:07,550 --> 00:44:10,430
And I'd say, and do you, do you 
approve of the way the 

897
00:44:10,430 --> 00:44:12,750
government spends your tax money
now? 

898
00:44:13,710 --> 00:44:16,910
No. 
Do you understand that you, 

899
00:44:17,230 --> 00:44:18,790
you're telling me you want to 
give them more. 

900
00:44:19,110 --> 00:44:22,230
So you want all the wealthy 
people who have innovated and 

901
00:44:22,270 --> 00:44:24,150
built their businesses, very 
successful. 

902
00:44:25,950 --> 00:44:29,310
You want to tax them up to. 
Some people are saying 90%. 

903
00:44:29,390 --> 00:44:32,030
Wow, that's crazy. 
What do you think that's going 

904
00:44:32,030 --> 00:44:33,870
to do to them? 
First of all, think about that. 

905
00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:36,940
You know, they they don't care 
because they're the rich, 

906
00:44:36,940 --> 00:44:39,300
they're the 1%. 
Well, you should care because 

907
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:41,740
you have to understand most of 
those people are the ones who 

908
00:44:41,740 --> 00:44:44,300
provide jobs for the rest of the
people. 

909
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,940
And a lot of those people are 
actually the innovators who are 

910
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:52,460
creating things that actually 
allow this country to be a 

911
00:44:52,460 --> 00:44:54,900
leader. 
And without that innovation, 

912
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:59,420
without those creations, then 
how do we advance as a society 

913
00:44:59,420 --> 00:45:02,780
and how do we stay up with, You 
know, if at the time I was into,

914
00:45:02,980 --> 00:45:05,260
you know, alternative energies 
and all that, how, how are we 

915
00:45:05,260 --> 00:45:09,140
going to advance to find better 
energies than coal and oil, 

916
00:45:09,140 --> 00:45:13,140
which I completely reverse my 
awareness of the practicality 

917
00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:14,580
and importance of oil at this 
point. 

918
00:45:14,580 --> 00:45:17,860
But then I was way against it, 
protesting against pipelines, 

919
00:45:17,860 --> 00:45:19,740
shutting down banks with Jane 
Fond and all of that. 

920
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:24,260
And but I said that, you know, 
you understand, like this 

921
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:26,140
doesn't. 
And some people would admit it. 

922
00:45:26,140 --> 00:45:28,340
They go, I haven't really 
thought about this that deep. 

923
00:45:28,340 --> 00:45:30,580
I just like Bernie Okay. 
Cool. 

924
00:45:30,620 --> 00:45:32,820
That's awesome. 
And that's when I said, you 

925
00:45:33,980 --> 00:45:36,940
know, the first question was, 
are these people hypnotized? 

926
00:45:37,620 --> 00:45:39,500
Because this. 
I don't think they're dumb. 

927
00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:41,340
A lot of might say what what's 
your education? 

928
00:45:41,340 --> 00:45:43,860
Because I started to realize 
there's a real correlation 

929
00:45:43,860 --> 00:45:46,220
between crazy ideas and 
university. 

930
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:48,980
That's when I started going to 
most of the people who have 

931
00:45:48,980 --> 00:45:52,300
really crazy ideas, they all 
studied under some Marxist 

932
00:45:52,300 --> 00:45:53,420
professor. 
Interesting. 

933
00:45:55,010 --> 00:45:57,050
And so they believed that 
because they were, they were 

934
00:45:57,050 --> 00:45:59,730
bred and parented into obeying 
authority. 

935
00:45:59,730 --> 00:46:02,610
And if they have a professor, 
this guy must be right. 

936
00:46:03,090 --> 00:46:04,850
That's their teacher. 
They're paying, you know, 

937
00:46:04,850 --> 00:46:06,970
$80,000 a year to learn from 
this person. 

938
00:46:06,970 --> 00:46:08,930
They can't be wrong or why would
they be paying them? 

939
00:46:08,930 --> 00:46:13,810
It would make them stupid And 
and so they end up, you know, 

940
00:46:14,170 --> 00:46:15,970
not understanding even what 
they're supporting. 

941
00:46:15,970 --> 00:46:17,570
So the moment I said, are they 
hypnotized? 

942
00:46:18,210 --> 00:46:25,800
Then I realized, well, I'm part 
of them and I'm kind of here 

943
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:30,000
too, fiercely supporting Bernie 
and not really understanding 

944
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,800
what I'm supporting. 
Am I hypnotized? 

945
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,360
And the moment I asked that 
question, it was like I say in 

946
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,320
the movie, it was like a faith 
healing because I started 

947
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,120
noticing things that I were 
right in front of me this whole 

948
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,720
journey, but I couldn't see 
them. 

949
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:46,560
I started realizing, wait a 
minute, that's a sickle and 

950
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,720
hammer sticker on your laptop. 
What? 

951
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,560
That's that's a communist 
sticker. 

952
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:54,780
What's that doing there? 
Oh, here's a Che Guevara shirt 

953
00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:56,700
and hat and things on water 
bottles. 

954
00:46:56,700 --> 00:47:00,540
And I sort of realizing I was 
surrounded by want to be 

955
00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:03,100
communist. 
And I and I couldn't believe it.

956
00:47:03,100 --> 00:47:06,140
Then I started saying, is that 
like, are you trying to be edgy 

957
00:47:06,140 --> 00:47:07,380
or what? 
What is that about? 

958
00:47:07,380 --> 00:47:09,380
Why are you why are you 
supporting linen? 

959
00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:11,940
What? 
You know what happened? 

960
00:47:11,940 --> 00:47:13,980
What linen did right now is a 
Dong. 

961
00:47:13,980 --> 00:47:16,140
What? 
He killed 80 million people. 

962
00:47:16,140 --> 00:47:21,110
Why is that a hero? 
They all had some crazy story of

963
00:47:21,110 --> 00:47:25,310
why these people had the right 
political ideologies, the the, 

964
00:47:25,390 --> 00:47:29,230
the, the most deadly dictators 
of all time And that's when I 

965
00:47:29,230 --> 00:47:33,150
went, whoa, wow, I didn't I 
didn't know I was involved in 

966
00:47:33,150 --> 00:47:37,390
this and and then I withdrew my 
support online and for the 1st 

967
00:47:37,390 --> 00:47:39,270
and then saw the fragility of 
that. 

968
00:47:39,310 --> 00:47:41,190
I call it being bonded by 
agreement. 

969
00:47:41,190 --> 00:47:44,550
That's the problem with any 
relationship that's bonded by 

970
00:47:44,550 --> 00:47:46,590
agreement, particularly the 
relationships that are 

971
00:47:46,590 --> 00:47:49,760
established on the left. 
They're they're they're all 

972
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,680
bonds through agreement, like 
you have to check every box. 

973
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:56,320
We agree with ideologies. 
We're not here to celebrate each

974
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,640
other and our individuality. 
We're here as a collective to 

975
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,680
make sure that we agree with all
of it. 

976
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:05,200
You can say men can dress in 
dresses and identify however 

977
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,840
they want that the moment you 
say I don't think biological men

978
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,680
should be competing in combat 
sports against women, then 

979
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,120
you're out of the club. 
That's it. 

980
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,560
You have to agree, check every 
box. 

981
00:48:15,270 --> 00:48:18,070
And I didn't realize that I was,
you know, kind of a I'd just 

982
00:48:18,070 --> 00:48:19,950
fallen into being part of that 
collective. 

983
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:24,150
And the moment I came out to say
I I am no longer support this. 

984
00:48:24,150 --> 00:48:26,710
Then I was called a traitor and 
I was their number one target 

985
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:29,750
for a while. 
And I was like interesting how 

986
00:48:30,190 --> 00:48:33,030
fast you can go from being the 
poster child and the hero. 

987
00:48:33,030 --> 00:48:36,230
I just people like, thank you so
much for all the work you're 

988
00:48:36,230 --> 00:48:38,710
doing to support Bernie. 
And I saw the video you made. 

989
00:48:38,710 --> 00:48:40,270
That was great. 
And that was wonderful. 

990
00:48:40,270 --> 00:48:43,390
To suddenly being like, you 
know, you have a step foot in 

991
00:48:43,390 --> 00:48:44,870
our neighborhood and you might 
not make it out. 

992
00:48:44,870 --> 00:48:48,670
Like threats, death threats. 
I was like, wow, this is. 

993
00:48:48,710 --> 00:48:50,550
I was in a cult. 
I didn't even know it. 

994
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:53,030
Well, you use the word. 
And so I want to touch that just

995
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:55,430
a second. 
One of the arguments I make is 

996
00:48:55,430 --> 00:48:58,470
that Progressive Lessism is 
essentially A secular religion. 

997
00:48:58,710 --> 00:49:01,270
It's devoid of God, which is one
of the scary, sad things about 

998
00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:02,790
it. 
So there's no redemption, but 

999
00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:05,830
there is all the other tenants. 
They have all these, sort of. 

1000
00:49:06,230 --> 00:49:08,150
Competing beliefs that have to 
be accepted by faith. 

1001
00:49:08,150 --> 00:49:10,310
You just talked about a couple 
of them, and the minute that you

1002
00:49:10,310 --> 00:49:12,430
step out of line from that and 
you're no longer part of the 

1003
00:49:12,430 --> 00:49:14,430
community, you get 
excommunicated. 

1004
00:49:14,710 --> 00:49:18,790
You're a heretic or an apostate.
And we can see how organized 

1005
00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:22,070
religions have treated people 
like that over the last thousand

1006
00:49:22,070 --> 00:49:23,310
years. 
And it's not, it's not a good 

1007
00:49:23,310 --> 00:49:24,790
experience. 
We do it digitally now, 

1008
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:27,510
thankfully, for the most part, 
you said you got actual death 

1009
00:49:27,510 --> 00:49:30,430
threats, but I'm guessing nobody
actually followed through with 

1010
00:49:30,430 --> 00:49:31,990
physical violence towards you. 
Is that? 

1011
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,680
Is that a fair assumption? 
Yeah, that's fair that they all 

1012
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:35,520
just talk. 
They're all. 

1013
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,160
They're all. 
But they have those same 

1014
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,880
feelings of rage and anger, and 
they have that same sort of 

1015
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:42,920
feeling of betrayal of the 
cause, which, like you said, 

1016
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:44,800
bonded by agreement. 
That's your that's. 

1017
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,440
Did you coin that phrase? 
Yeah, I think so. 

1018
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:50,880
I've never heard it before, so 
it's very interesting to be as 

1019
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:54,200
long as you agree with the 
tenants of our our belief 

1020
00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:55,800
system, then you're part of the 
club. 

1021
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:58,400
And the minute you start 
recognizing that cognitive 

1022
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,250
dissonance, then it gets weird. 
Yeah, it's the same thing that 

1023
00:50:01,250 --> 00:50:04,090
even people need to understand 
their own marriages, too. 

1024
00:50:04,090 --> 00:50:06,170
You know, it's not just a 
political thing or a tribal 

1025
00:50:06,170 --> 00:50:09,530
thing, but it's a lot of people 
in relationships because they 

1026
00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:13,050
they agreed upon something and 
something felt like there was a 

1027
00:50:13,050 --> 00:50:14,890
fit. 
It didn't really necessarily 

1028
00:50:14,890 --> 00:50:18,130
have to do with love or 
attraction or pheromones or 

1029
00:50:18,130 --> 00:50:21,610
anything like that. 
But just we agree and we we both

1030
00:50:21,610 --> 00:50:25,370
like whatever it might be, you 
know, we're we're, you see a lot

1031
00:50:25,370 --> 00:50:27,370
of people out there. 
We just got back. 

1032
00:50:27,730 --> 00:50:32,100
My son turned 12 and we were at 
Universal Orlando and we're 

1033
00:50:32,100 --> 00:50:35,060
walking through Harry Potter 
Ville or land or whatever it is 

1034
00:50:35,060 --> 00:50:40,380
and and I'm seeing these you 
know, 20-30 year old couples 

1035
00:50:40,940 --> 00:50:44,380
with magic wands in their hand 
and the Harry Potter robes on. 

1036
00:50:44,380 --> 00:50:46,940
And you know, part of it's 
sometimes it's cute and 

1037
00:50:46,940 --> 00:50:51,020
sometimes it's like like what 
what is going on here? 

1038
00:50:51,340 --> 00:50:53,580
And and they're both. 
They're both dressed like this, 

1039
00:50:53,580 --> 00:50:58,410
you know, and and you have to 
you know that that's an example 

1040
00:50:58,410 --> 00:51:01,370
of where like they probably met 
on a Harry Potter chat line. 

1041
00:51:01,370 --> 00:51:05,090
And because they have Harry 
Potter in common, they get 

1042
00:51:05,090 --> 00:51:07,290
together. 
But what happens when, you know,

1043
00:51:07,290 --> 00:51:10,290
hopefully, hopefully one or both
of them will grow out of that 

1044
00:51:10,290 --> 00:51:12,610
one day. 
What happens when they're 35 and

1045
00:51:12,610 --> 00:51:15,410
they go, yeah, I'm kind of done 
with Harry Potter. 

1046
00:51:16,530 --> 00:51:19,330
Will that love still be there? 
Right. 

1047
00:51:19,330 --> 00:51:22,330
You know, that's the question. 
I mean, it's a, it's a really. 

1048
00:51:23,050 --> 00:51:25,210
Troubling thing to see from the 
outside because you've got the 

1049
00:51:25,210 --> 00:51:27,450
the age and the experience to go
look at it and just think like 

1050
00:51:27,450 --> 00:51:30,850
this is probably not sustainable
forever. 

1051
00:51:31,210 --> 00:51:33,490
It's the I used to see the same 
thing in the 90s with the the 

1052
00:51:33,490 --> 00:51:35,250
Juggalo movement. 
Do you remember them? 

1053
00:51:35,250 --> 00:51:38,330
The Insane Clown Posse. 
If you base your entire sort of 

1054
00:51:38,330 --> 00:51:41,370
identity about your love of this
band, and I mean it could be 

1055
00:51:41,370 --> 00:51:43,250
anything, it'd be jam bands. 
There's people that like fish 

1056
00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:46,090
and go everywhere with that and 
you just think it is that enough

1057
00:51:46,090 --> 00:51:49,650
to sustain a permanent 
connection through some really 

1058
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:51,490
difficult times and there could 
be some really difficult times 

1059
00:51:51,490 --> 00:51:53,510
which. 
We've just gone through a couple

1060
00:51:53,510 --> 00:51:55,870
years of it. 
I think a lot of people, you 

1061
00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:58,190
know, maybe it does, maybe, 
maybe if you have fish in 

1062
00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:01,390
common, you can handle whatever,
whatever comes your way. 

1063
00:52:01,790 --> 00:52:04,630
But my suspicion is probably not
it doesn't seem. 

1064
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:06,030
To be the way it stacks up 
usually. 

1065
00:52:06,310 --> 00:52:09,350
Well the you know and the the 
shallowness of it is so apparent

1066
00:52:09,350 --> 00:52:12,950
when you really consider I've 
had friends who have moved from 

1067
00:52:13,030 --> 00:52:17,190
LA where I came from to Texas 
and they go from being you know 

1068
00:52:17,890 --> 00:52:21,810
LA sports fan Lakers to they get
the Texas now they're whatever 

1069
00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:24,010
the team is or something. 
Yeah. 

1070
00:52:24,010 --> 00:52:25,650
Right. 
So it's like so it's so 

1071
00:52:25,650 --> 00:52:27,890
interesting right. 
It's this territorial thing It's

1072
00:52:27,890 --> 00:52:30,690
like no more now now LA is the 
enemy now they're battling 

1073
00:52:30,690 --> 00:52:34,170
against because they live here 
and it's such a funny thing. 

1074
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:36,410
You know there's there's a part 
of that that I I think is 

1075
00:52:36,410 --> 00:52:39,650
innocent. 
I'm I'm an athlete I I coach 

1076
00:52:39,650 --> 00:52:42,810
baseball and and so I I I get 
it. 

1077
00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:45,760
You know it's a it's a a good 
thing to be involved in 

1078
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:49,400
competitive sports I believe 
particularly as as a boy to have

1079
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:53,880
boys involved in that they learn
team building and and you know 

1080
00:52:53,880 --> 00:52:58,600
how to deal with defeat and and 
how to push themselves beyond 

1081
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:01,280
limits beyond the comfort zone. 
So it's it's incredibly 

1082
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:06,920
valuable, but just that that 
tribalism to see how how fragile

1083
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:10,240
it is, how it can just shift, 
you know, in a moment's notice. 

1084
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:14,690
And I saw people that, you know,
Speaking of Harry Potter, I saw,

1085
00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:16,770
you know, cuz the author, what's
her name? 

1086
00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:21,330
JK Rollins, JK Rollins. 
You know, I saw people that just

1087
00:53:21,330 --> 00:53:24,690
because she came out and said 
things that they didn't like her

1088
00:53:24,690 --> 00:53:27,090
saying. 
Yeah, she wants women to be in 

1089
00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:29,690
women's spaces and not have men 
in their in their locker room. 

1090
00:53:29,690 --> 00:53:32,130
What a nut. 
What a kook. 

1091
00:53:30,450 --> 00:53:35,250
What a crazy nut. 
Yeah, but because she came out 

1092
00:53:35,250 --> 00:53:38,290
and spoke her mind, right? 
You know, then suddenly these 

1093
00:53:38,290 --> 00:53:41,690
lifelong Potter fanatics were 
like, I'm done. 

1094
00:53:42,010 --> 00:53:44,370
And burning her books, or 
burning her books and their 

1095
00:53:44,370 --> 00:53:46,810
robes and everything. 
So again, it's like, look how 

1096
00:53:46,810 --> 00:53:49,610
fragile that is. 
So, So because the person who 

1097
00:53:49,610 --> 00:53:53,050
wrote the book doesn't agree 
with every doesn't check every 

1098
00:53:53,050 --> 00:53:58,170
box you check politically. 
A movie that obviously has 

1099
00:53:58,370 --> 00:54:01,850
brought you some joy and some 
some kind of reward, at least at

1100
00:54:01,850 --> 00:54:06,360
the identity level, that she's 
the enemy all of a sudden. 

1101
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:09,400
And that whole thing that was 
your obsession just two minutes 

1102
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,840
ago is over now. 
And so that's that's bonded by 

1103
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:14,840
agreement. 
You know, they're bonded by 

1104
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,280
bonded to Harry Potter through 
the story, but they're also 

1105
00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:21,560
bonded by making sure that the 
person writing the story is in 

1106
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:24,520
agreement with them. 
And that's what's so fragile. 

1107
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:30,000
I saw so many when Pandemic One 
came out, I saw so many people. 

1108
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:33,080
There were a couple that I knew 
for over 20 years, but I call 

1109
00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,440
Brother and I'm not the kind of 
guy that just calls everyone 

1110
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,080
brother, I'm I'm. 
You're not like the Hulk Hogan 

1111
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,160
type where everybody or or or 
what's his name? 

1112
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,800
Cornell. 
Cornell West who? 

1113
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:46,960
Everyone's My brother. 
My brother. 

1114
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,480
That's too much for me too. 
And you know, I get it, you 

1115
00:54:49,480 --> 00:54:50,920
know, because we are brothers 
and sisters. 

1116
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:51,880
I get it. 
But I don't. 

1117
00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:54,280
I just don't throw that word 
around lightly until I really 

1118
00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,200
meet somebody and I go this 
feels like a brother, you know? 

1119
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:02,610
And then I'll use the word and 
and you know, it's. 

1120
00:55:03,490 --> 00:55:05,770
Where the hell was I going? 
I don't even know. 

1121
00:55:05,810 --> 00:55:07,130
Just. 
The frailty of this, the 

1122
00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:09,570
fragileness is the first. 
That's pretty much it. 

1123
00:55:09,570 --> 00:55:10,930
Yeah. 
It's just it's, you know, we go 

1124
00:55:10,930 --> 00:55:13,930
from that to just, you know that
this person is your enemy 

1125
00:55:13,930 --> 00:55:16,570
overnight and that's. 
That feels really new. 

1126
00:55:17,090 --> 00:55:18,130
Is it? 
Is it just me? 

1127
00:55:18,130 --> 00:55:19,690
I don't remember growing up with
that. 

1128
00:55:19,690 --> 00:55:22,930
Like, like you must agree with 
everything I'm about or we 

1129
00:55:22,930 --> 00:55:25,010
cannot even be close. 
I don't know. 

1130
00:55:25,010 --> 00:55:27,730
As a matter of fact. 
As a matter of fact, I spent a 

1131
00:55:27,730 --> 00:55:33,860
great deal of my life meeting 
with people only because they 

1132
00:55:33,860 --> 00:55:37,700
were so different from me. 
My mom would drop us off. 

1133
00:55:37,700 --> 00:55:41,780
We had our born and raised in 
Sacramento and there was a a 

1134
00:55:41,780 --> 00:55:48,060
mall, Sunrise Mall, and and that
was the big outing for me as a 

1135
00:55:48,060 --> 00:55:49,300
child, right? 
We're going to take your 

1136
00:55:49,300 --> 00:55:50,340
friends. 
We're going to drop you off at 

1137
00:55:50,340 --> 00:55:54,360
the arcade at the Sunrise Mall. 
And there were times when she'd 

1138
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,280
come to the arcade to pick us 
up. 

1139
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:59,280
And she's like, where is where? 
Where my friends would be in 

1140
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,520
there playing. 
They're like, oh, he left a 

1141
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:01,920
couple hours ago. 
She went, what do you mean? 

1142
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,320
He left and she'd find me. 
I'd be sitting at the at the 

1143
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,960
fountain next to some old man. 
She'd be like, oh, hey, time to 

1144
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:08,040
go. 
She'd go, what are you doing? 

1145
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:10,840
Said I'm talking to, oh, my God,
this old man, he was in World 

1146
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,360
War 2, Mom. 
He got shot in the leg and 

1147
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:15,040
whatever. 
It's like, why are you so 

1148
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,000
interested in all these stories 
with people? 

1149
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:22,140
It's like I just was fascinated.
And so I carry that on in my 

1150
00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:24,460
adult life where it's like I 
love to interview people that 

1151
00:56:24,460 --> 00:56:27,820
were like into stuff that I 
thought was bizarre. 

1152
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:32,060
There's no way that's for me. 
But that's so fascinating to sit

1153
00:56:32,060 --> 00:56:34,780
down with someone and and even 
politically. 

1154
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:36,980
You know, when I first started 
doing political stuff, I was 

1155
00:56:36,980 --> 00:56:43,760
fascinated by people who would, 
you know, praise someone that I 

1156
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:46,560
looked at and thought that's the
least interesting person in the 

1157
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,520
world. 
And yet they're so, you know, 

1158
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,840
devoted to this person. 
How interesting Like, what 

1159
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:56,080
causes that and and and But 
yeah, you're right. 

1160
00:56:56,080 --> 00:57:00,360
Nowadays everyone's looking for 
the sameness and that's boring 

1161
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,400
to me. 
That's boring. 

1162
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,080
I don't want everyone to agree 
with me. 

1163
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:07,240
I love, you know, when I'm on 
podcast and someone will be 

1164
00:57:07,240 --> 00:57:09,680
like, you know, I really loved 
your movie. 

1165
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,800
But there's, you know, one thing
I really got to push back on. 

1166
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:13,000
Awesome. 
Let's go. 

1167
00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:16,720
Right, awesome. 
That was, that was, that was 

1168
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,680
literally the fodder for all bar
conversations in my youth. 

1169
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:22,280
This is. 
It's like I saw this thing and I

1170
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,840
saw, you know, this take on it 
and someone goes, you're totally

1171
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,520
wrong. 
It was actually, you know, 

1172
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,240
something else. 
And you go how how did you come 

1173
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:30,920
up with that? 
And then they tell you, and then

1174
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:33,430
you're not mad at them. 
It's more fascinating. 

1175
00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:35,750
Doctor Drew actually said that 
Doctor Drew Penske, who, you 

1176
00:57:35,750 --> 00:57:36,990
know, I grew up listening to 
Loveline. 

1177
00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:40,510
I don't remember you were young 
enough to or young enough at the

1178
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:41,950
time when it was like really 
interesting. 

1179
00:57:42,110 --> 00:57:44,430
I was a, you know, teenager and 
listening to him and going like,

1180
00:57:44,470 --> 00:57:46,670
oh, I was learning about sex 
from from the radio because I 

1181
00:57:46,670 --> 00:57:48,630
was a radio nerd. 
My dad was in radio. 

1182
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:51,270
And so I'm listening to this guy
and he goes, if a doctor came up

1183
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:54,350
with a with a conclusion that 
was totally different than what 

1184
00:57:54,350 --> 00:57:56,470
I saw and what I believed and 
what I'd been observing with my 

1185
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:59,870
patient, I would send him an 
e-mail or I would call him and 

1186
00:57:59,870 --> 00:58:01,430
say let's have a conversation. 
I'd really like to know what 

1187
00:58:01,430 --> 00:58:04,070
you're seeing. 
Because I don't get it out of 

1188
00:58:04,070 --> 00:58:06,070
fascination, but but not as a 
threatened way. 

1189
00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:09,910
And today it feels like maybe, 
maybe this is, maybe this is the

1190
00:58:09,910 --> 00:58:12,710
nuance of it. 
When people take on ideas, they 

1191
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:16,350
make that their core, I don't 
know, value their their their 

1192
00:58:16,350 --> 00:58:17,830
reality. 
And then you're attacking their 

1193
00:58:17,830 --> 00:58:19,470
either the reality or their 
value system. 

1194
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:23,070
And so if we don't agree with 
them, you're not even a value, 

1195
00:58:23,070 --> 00:58:24,190
you're you're you're attacking 
me. 

1196
00:58:24,630 --> 00:58:27,070
It's not just my words, 
literally their identity. 

1197
00:58:27,670 --> 00:58:30,510
And so we have become obsessed 
with identity politics. 

1198
00:58:30,510 --> 00:58:33,660
It's all about the people and 
not the policies and that's 

1199
00:58:33,660 --> 00:58:37,820
where we make the massive 
mistakes and and not recognizing

1200
00:58:38,260 --> 00:58:41,220
you know I don't like the way 
Trump talked and I don't like 

1201
00:58:41,260 --> 00:58:43,780
the way he was mean and he did 
this tweets and whatever. 

1202
00:58:44,580 --> 00:58:47,340
Cool. 
What's he doing right. 

1203
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:51,060
How's your 401K look exactly. 
Do you understand that people 

1204
00:58:51,060 --> 00:58:53,780
are have food on the table that 
didn't have it yesterday. 

1205
00:58:53,780 --> 00:58:57,780
Do you understand that there's a
lot happening for minorities and

1206
00:58:57,780 --> 00:59:00,180
women that have never happened 
before in this country that 

1207
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,160
you're on? 
He's undoing a lot of the truly 

1208
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,680
systemic racism that was 
plaguing this country. 

1209
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:10,520
Like you know like the three 
strikes you're out prison 

1210
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:14,480
situation that you know that 
imprisoned a generation of brown

1211
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:19,240
and primarily brown and black 
men and with with life sentences

1212
00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,320
for some some of them having a 
joint on them. 

1213
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,880
You know like real harsh things 
that were being undone that we 

1214
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:33,750
have you know peace talks with 
Russia and Korea and like 

1215
00:59:34,070 --> 00:59:36,430
there's some massive things that
were happening. 

1216
00:59:37,110 --> 00:59:38,750
And I went from I went swept 
under. 

1217
00:59:39,310 --> 00:59:43,750
Yeah I I went from really not 
liking him to having a 

1218
00:59:43,750 --> 00:59:46,470
conversation. 
His former wife Marla Maples is 

1219
00:59:46,510 --> 00:59:52,110
very different of mine and and 
we had a conversation when when 

1220
00:59:52,110 --> 00:59:54,510
Trump was president and she 
knew, she knew that I wasn't a 

1221
00:59:54,510 --> 00:59:59,350
big fan of of him and she told 
me, she said. 

1222
01:00:00,430 --> 01:00:02,750
One thing I guess she goes, 
look, I'm, I'm exwife. 

1223
01:00:02,830 --> 01:00:05,430
So of course I have my 
complaints, of course. 

1224
01:00:06,590 --> 01:00:12,550
But I cannot deny that my time 
with him, what he showed me, was

1225
01:00:12,870 --> 01:00:17,750
that man loves this country. 
He talked about it all the time.

1226
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:20,430
He was so hurt by what was 
happening to it that he said if 

1227
01:00:20,430 --> 01:00:24,350
he ever has to jump in, he will.
He doesn't want to, but he will.

1228
01:00:24,790 --> 01:00:28,110
And he use all of his power that
he's accumulated to do his best 

1229
01:00:28,110 --> 01:00:30,400
to save this country. 
She goes that I know is real 

1230
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:34,600
because I was with him and I 
went really, wow, I thought he 

1231
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:39,320
was just super selfish, greedy, 
real estate mogul guy that was 

1232
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,120
like, no, no, he's losing a lot 
of money right now. 

1233
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,800
Business could be a lot easier. 
And I said, wow, that's good. 

1234
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,200
So thank you for that. 
Let me start opening my mind and

1235
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:53,080
heart to get off of what I just 
mentioned, get off of the fact 

1236
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,680
that he, he can, you know, be 
offensive. 

1237
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:57,480
And I actually learned to love 
that after a while. 

1238
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,570
I mean, we need to people need 
to thicken their skin and start 

1239
01:01:00,570 --> 01:01:03,330
saying what they feel again. 
You know, people are so fragile 

1240
01:01:03,890 --> 01:01:07,010
that of of course, if we're 
going to honor free speech, free

1241
01:01:07,010 --> 01:01:12,210
speech doesn't always feel good,
you know, but let somebody speak

1242
01:01:12,210 --> 01:01:16,050
the way they speak. 
Are we strong enough are we big 

1243
01:01:16,050 --> 01:01:24,810
enough as people to to to to 
know how to navigate that stuff 

1244
01:01:24,930 --> 01:01:29,690
that we don't like and and could
it be valuable for us to endure 

1245
01:01:29,690 --> 01:01:32,450
things because when we insulate 
ourselves from the real world 

1246
01:01:32,930 --> 01:01:36,410
there's mean people out there. 
A lot of rude people out there. 

1247
01:01:36,970 --> 01:01:40,970
And if and I, you know I set my 
kids down when they were about 

1248
01:01:40,970 --> 01:01:43,890
your your kids age 5-6 years old
both of them. 

1249
01:01:43,890 --> 01:01:46,930
And I put them through a process
that we called bullyproof. 

1250
01:01:46,930 --> 01:01:48,370
I said I'm going to make you 
bullyproof. 

1251
01:01:49,090 --> 01:01:51,250
I'm going to tell you a bunch of
names that inevitably you're 

1252
01:01:51,250 --> 01:01:55,250
going to be called, and they had
never heard one of them. 

1253
01:01:56,050 --> 01:01:58,530
Every Every boy gets called 
this, you're going to get called

1254
01:01:58,530 --> 01:02:00,650
this. 
You're going to be at the arcade

1255
01:02:00,650 --> 01:02:02,970
or the trampoline park or 
somewhere, not your little 

1256
01:02:02,970 --> 01:02:05,810
school that we helped create 
because those kids, they're 

1257
01:02:05,810 --> 01:02:08,410
being taught a very special way.
But you end up out in public. 

1258
01:02:08,410 --> 01:02:11,490
You're going to be called a 
queer, this or that, whatever. 

1259
01:02:11,490 --> 01:02:13,730
I told them what does that mean?
This is what it means. 

1260
01:02:13,730 --> 01:02:17,650
And this is and taught them so 
that my when my kids had the 

1261
01:02:17,650 --> 01:02:20,850
first experience with bullies 
when they they both have had at 

1262
01:02:20,850 --> 01:02:24,170
least one apiece, my little one 
actually got beat up pretty 

1263
01:02:24,170 --> 01:02:26,690
severely by a 13 year old girl 
when he was 7. 

1264
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:32,930
And and but both of them had the
same reaction. 

1265
01:02:33,250 --> 01:02:35,650
I had to sit down and just to 
make sure there's no trauma. 

1266
01:02:35,650 --> 01:02:37,210
I don't want him to take trauma 
with that. 

1267
01:02:37,210 --> 01:02:41,450
There's a way that you can speak
with your children post event to

1268
01:02:41,450 --> 01:02:44,970
make sure that they can process 
what happened and understand 

1269
01:02:44,970 --> 01:02:46,810
that golden rule. 
It didn't happen to you. 

1270
01:02:46,810 --> 01:02:49,570
It happened for you. 
So if it happened for you, 

1271
01:02:49,570 --> 01:02:51,530
what's the value and what's the 
lesson in this? 

1272
01:02:52,210 --> 01:02:54,290
And both boys said to me at 
their separate times after 

1273
01:02:54,290 --> 01:02:56,690
having dealt with encountered a 
a bully. 

1274
01:02:57,290 --> 01:03:01,370
They said something very similar
which was something akin to it 

1275
01:03:01,370 --> 01:03:03,650
just makes me really feel sad 
for that kid. 

1276
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:06,530
I wonder what happened to him 
that he would be so mean. 

1277
01:03:07,250 --> 01:03:09,690
So yeah, there you go. 
Now you know it's not about you 

1278
01:03:10,650 --> 01:03:15,330
it's about them and and now 
you're already applying 

1279
01:03:15,610 --> 01:03:18,010
compassion towards somebody who 
just bullied you. 

1280
01:03:18,010 --> 01:03:22,800
How awesome is that? 
For that age that will keep you 

1281
01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:28,800
from, keep it from sticking to 
you like the way it stuck to me 

1282
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,960
as a kid. 
You know there were you. 

1283
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:33,040
Didn't have that same experience
then you didn't have that same 

1284
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,200
talk, obviously. 
No, I was raised with a single 

1285
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,440
mom, should have 443 teenagers 
by the time I came along. 

1286
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,960
So there was a lot of, a lot of 
life that I had to learn on my 

1287
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,880
own. 
And again, perfect. 

1288
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:46,120
Didn't happen to me, happened 
for me, but absolutely I had to 

1289
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:48,000
deal with. 
I got so insecure for a while 

1290
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:53,310
because I was really tall at a 
very young age and really 

1291
01:03:53,310 --> 01:03:56,590
skinny. 
And so, you know, I was called 

1292
01:03:56,590 --> 01:03:59,230
daddy long legs and chicken legs
and all kinds of stuff. 

1293
01:03:59,230 --> 01:04:03,110
And so I became so insecure that
I'd wear a pair of sweatpants 

1294
01:04:03,110 --> 01:04:06,350
under my jeans just to give me a
little more bulk, you know. 

1295
01:04:06,350 --> 01:04:10,630
And I wore shoes 2 sizes too 
small, which created serious 

1296
01:04:10,630 --> 01:04:13,390
issues in my. 
I still have toes that curl 

1297
01:04:13,390 --> 01:04:16,190
under a little bit. 
All because there was like my 

1298
01:04:16,310 --> 01:04:19,030
feet were so big and people were
making fun of my foot size. 

1299
01:04:19,030 --> 01:04:24,000
And and you know, I didn't have 
the tools I wish I had. 

1300
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:26,000
But again, it's perfect. 
It's divine. 

1301
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,080
That's my life's path that I I 
had to, you know, suffer through

1302
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,240
things that I actually didn't 
have to, but I chose to because 

1303
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,760
I didn't have the tools to 
navigate them that my sons do 

1304
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,400
have that I didn't have. 
And and again, though I tell 

1305
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,040
them all the time, when they, 
you know, they'll make a choice,

1306
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,600
that's that clearly there's a 
higher choice and they make a 

1307
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,000
lower choice. 
And I say well for some reason 

1308
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,580
you need to experience the the 
you know the challenging side of

1309
01:04:51,580 --> 01:04:54,620
this lesson. 
What that what might that be, 

1310
01:04:54,660 --> 01:04:57,860
you know and and they'll you 
know they're very emotionally 

1311
01:04:57,860 --> 01:04:59,820
literate. 
I'm, I'm super I love talking to

1312
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:02,340
my kids because they just amaze 
me sometimes. 

1313
01:05:02,340 --> 01:05:10,060
You know that I was, I was on 
stage this last Saturday and 

1314
01:05:10,060 --> 01:05:15,380
there was somebody who was 
speaking and this person we love

1315
01:05:15,380 --> 01:05:20,510
very, very much. 
And sometimes they get lost in 

1316
01:05:20,510 --> 01:05:24,710
thought when they're speaking 
and what they say makes no sense

1317
01:05:26,230 --> 01:05:30,030
and you can see the audience 
going what's going on here. 

1318
01:05:30,750 --> 01:05:33,870
And so when we got in the car 
after the talk, I started 

1319
01:05:33,870 --> 01:05:37,730
talking to my wife. 
I said, you know, I'm I'm just, 

1320
01:05:37,730 --> 01:05:39,410
I need to really reach out to 
her. 

1321
01:05:39,410 --> 01:05:43,010
Because when she gets into that 
mode of sharing stories, she 

1322
01:05:43,010 --> 01:05:46,210
doesn't always consider that the
audience doesn't know these 

1323
01:05:46,210 --> 01:05:48,650
names she's talking about. 
She needs to give some context 

1324
01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:51,010
to what she's saying. 
Otherwise she's just throwing 

1325
01:05:51,010 --> 01:05:54,250
out random names and telling 
stories as if everyone in the, 

1326
01:05:54,290 --> 01:05:57,050
you know, and I started sharing 
this and my 12 year old goes, 

1327
01:05:57,050 --> 01:06:01,970
you notice like that he goes it 
almost appeared that her mind is

1328
01:06:01,970 --> 01:06:04,320
spiraling. 
And he gave this incredible 

1329
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:06,280
metaphor. 
He goes it's like a spiral and 

1330
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,280
her mind is spiraling. 
And every now and then a thought

1331
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,360
drops out of the spiral and it 
comes out of her mouth. 

1332
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:15,200
And he gave me this metaphor and
I went that's actually really 

1333
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,480
brilliant, buddy. 
Like, wow. 

1334
01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,320
That's exactly. 
That's how the cognitive process

1335
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,760
works. 
Like you just nailed it. 

1336
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:25,000
And having the ability to 
observe something happening 

1337
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:30,040
physically and then turning it 
into a metaphor that can be 

1338
01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:36,350
understood as a teaching tool is
a really incredible gift to to 

1339
01:06:36,350 --> 01:06:39,750
leave your children because they
apply that to themselves. 

1340
01:06:39,750 --> 01:06:43,790
So when they have a situation 
that occurs to them, they don't 

1341
01:06:43,790 --> 01:06:47,550
necessarily get caught up in the
trauma and drama of it as much 

1342
01:06:47,550 --> 01:06:50,910
as the scientific. 
You know, like what just 

1343
01:06:50,910 --> 01:06:52,630
happened to me here, I got 
really upset. 

1344
01:06:52,790 --> 01:06:55,350
They can start to analyze that. 
Like, my mind was spiraling and 

1345
01:06:55,350 --> 01:06:57,350
then I just started throwing 
stuff out. 

1346
01:06:57,350 --> 01:07:00,270
And that's, you know, they can 
understand their own process 

1347
01:07:00,990 --> 01:07:04,150
because what most people do, 
most adults do, is they'll have 

1348
01:07:04,150 --> 01:07:06,710
an experience and then they 
spend a lot of time trying to 

1349
01:07:06,910 --> 01:07:10,550
justify the bad behavior. 
And all that does is prolong the

1350
01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:13,150
bad behavior. 
The moment we can say, I, you 

1351
01:07:13,150 --> 01:07:15,350
know, I denounced that bad 
behavior, that was me. 

1352
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:18,350
I take responsibility for it. 
The moment we do, we're shining 

1353
01:07:18,350 --> 01:07:20,350
light on it and it no longer has
power over us. 

1354
01:07:20,910 --> 01:07:23,310
But this is one of the reasons I
believe that we keep saying 

1355
01:07:23,310 --> 01:07:26,550
history keeps repeating itself 
because we don't learn, we don't

1356
01:07:26,550 --> 01:07:30,220
move, we don't evolve past these
pass these problems because 

1357
01:07:30,220 --> 01:07:34,100
we're we're so wanting to 
justify that it was somebody 

1358
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:38,100
else who made us do this. 
I had a kind of a weird 

1359
01:07:39,100 --> 01:07:42,300
reflection on the history keeps 
repeating itself, peace if you 

1360
01:07:42,300 --> 01:07:44,340
will. 
And everyone always thinks that 

1361
01:07:44,340 --> 01:07:47,980
it's us that is doing the same 
history over and over again. 

1362
01:07:47,980 --> 01:07:50,300
But I I have the sense and I 
don't know if it's true or not, 

1363
01:07:50,300 --> 01:07:52,540
but this is kind of where I'm 
laid like sitting in the last 

1364
01:07:52,540 --> 01:07:55,660
couple weeks. 
We don't know what happened to 

1365
01:07:55,660 --> 01:07:58,580
people historically and we 
tolerate that happening to us 

1366
01:07:58,580 --> 01:08:00,620
again by people who are pulling 
all the levers. 

1367
01:08:00,620 --> 01:08:03,540
You mentioned a narrative and 
and all this sort of industry 

1368
01:08:03,540 --> 01:08:06,580
that is built up to go after and
kind of shape behavior and so 

1369
01:08:06,580 --> 01:08:07,860
on. 
And and I feel like if you're 

1370
01:08:07,860 --> 01:08:11,420
not aware of how that's happened
historically, then you 100% will

1371
01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:14,500
experience what people 
historically did tyranny and so 

1372
01:08:14,540 --> 01:08:18,140
on because you have other people
have tolerated before you and 

1373
01:08:18,140 --> 01:08:20,420
you don't know any better. 
And so often times, it's not 

1374
01:08:20,420 --> 01:08:22,899
even a question of whether or 
not you know whether or not. 

1375
01:08:23,380 --> 01:08:25,260
You're going to repeat somebody 
else's mistakes. 

1376
01:08:25,260 --> 01:08:27,500
You're just going to tolerate 
someone repeating the same sort 

1377
01:08:27,500 --> 01:08:29,779
of bad behavior on you because 
you didn't see it coming, 

1378
01:08:29,939 --> 01:08:31,420
because how could you? 
Because you weren't aware of it.

1379
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,620
Of all the deadly ideas out 
there that we hold on to, one of

1380
01:08:35,620 --> 01:08:39,300
the most deadly is the idea that
that can never happen here. 

1381
01:08:40,300 --> 01:08:44,420
That's what has allowed these 
things to continue to occur in 

1382
01:08:44,420 --> 01:08:47,460
places that people would have 
bet their lives that would never

1383
01:08:47,460 --> 01:08:50,779
happen there. 
And so we have to realize 

1384
01:08:50,779 --> 01:08:54,390
there's a misconception that we 
have that we're in a different 

1385
01:08:54,390 --> 01:08:58,189
age now and we are much more 
enlightened than we were before,

1386
01:08:58,189 --> 01:09:00,430
much wiser. 
We've learned from our mistakes,

1387
01:09:00,430 --> 01:09:02,750
and look how technologically 
advanced we are. 

1388
01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:12,069
What that does is it has us 
missed the fact that these 

1389
01:09:12,069 --> 01:09:14,510
things continue to happen? 
They just, they're just 

1390
01:09:14,510 --> 01:09:16,750
shapeshifters. 
They happen in a different way. 

1391
01:09:16,750 --> 01:09:19,630
They happen incrementally. 
A lot of these things happen 

1392
01:09:20,069 --> 01:09:23,069
incrementally and when something
happens so much, when our lives 

1393
01:09:23,069 --> 01:09:27,229
are moving so fast, we have so 
much mental momentum and we're 

1394
01:09:27,229 --> 01:09:29,790
so busy, which everyone's busy 
right now, right. 

1395
01:09:29,910 --> 01:09:32,029
Everybody is just trying to 
trying to get a meeting into 

1396
01:09:32,029 --> 01:09:35,149
people's like I just might say 
Tuesday, Wednesday 3rd, Friday, 

1397
01:09:35,710 --> 01:09:37,910
the whole time on Sunday. 
But you know, everybody's busy. 

1398
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:40,990
And that's all by design because
when we're, when we're just 

1399
01:09:40,990 --> 01:09:45,310
filled, there's no space for to 
stop and to contemplate. 

1400
01:09:46,590 --> 01:09:50,800
That's when things happen. 
It's kind of like, you know, if 

1401
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,920
you look take a look at your 
yard and if you see your yard 

1402
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,400
every day, you you don't even 
know that it's growing. 

1403
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,360
But if you step away for two 
weeks and you come back, you're 

1404
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:02,880
like, whoa, that sucker grows 
fast. 

1405
01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:08,200
And it's that, it's that being 
unaware for just enough of a 

1406
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,640
period of time that something 
happens without your knowing. 

1407
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,080
And so a lot of these things 
happen are are are set to happen

1408
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:21,210
so incrementally and sometimes 
so right in front of us and 

1409
01:10:21,210 --> 01:10:26,610
wrapped in a beautiful 
benevolent package that we look 

1410
01:10:26,610 --> 01:10:28,530
past it because we think, well, 
no, this is good. 

1411
01:10:28,730 --> 01:10:30,010
I'm looking for the stuff that's
bad. 

1412
01:10:30,010 --> 01:10:33,290
I'm here to protect myself and I
have this primal thing in me 

1413
01:10:33,290 --> 01:10:35,570
that says I have to find, you 
know, the dangers of the world. 

1414
01:10:35,570 --> 01:10:38,090
This isn't dangerous, though, 
this, you know, And then we look

1415
01:10:38,090 --> 01:10:41,530
past it because it was wrapped 
in, you know, climate awareness 

1416
01:10:41,530 --> 01:10:46,330
or some great story of of, you 
know, how how wonderful this 

1417
01:10:46,330 --> 01:10:50,540
thing is and, you know, the 
vaccine, it's a miracle, you 

1418
01:10:50,540 --> 01:10:56,140
know, and and and and they start
a narrative that it's just 

1419
01:10:56,140 --> 01:11:00,100
what's a gift from God and 
science and oh, how incredible 

1420
01:11:00,100 --> 01:11:02,180
that they were able to whip 
something up in such a short 

1421
01:11:02,180 --> 01:11:05,220
period of time. 
You know, so many of us went, 

1422
01:11:05,540 --> 01:11:07,660
that's bad. 
That's never good. 

1423
01:11:07,660 --> 01:11:09,380
That's not a good thing. 
You shouldn't be celebrating 

1424
01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:11,620
that you could whip up a vaccine
in seven months. 

1425
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,960
That's a bad thing. 
Nothing makes that good. 

1426
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:17,440
How did you decide that? 
How did it come to you that 

1427
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,320
someone said we have a we have a
vaccine. 

1428
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,960
We've done it in the short time 
we've created a medical miracle.

1429
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,720
How did you know that was bad? 
What? 

1430
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:25,720
How did you know that was 
anything? 

1431
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:26,680
How did you have a feeling on 
it? 

1432
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:30,600
Well, because you can't do 
longterm studies in a short 

1433
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,160
period of time. 
I mean it's just it's math and 

1434
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:37,760
so you can't you you know that 
these things take 7 to 12 years 

1435
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:43,650
or so before you know it's the 
long term study and and so the 

1436
01:11:43,650 --> 01:11:50,650
idea that you can do it for a 
short period of time is no 

1437
01:11:50,650 --> 01:11:53,970
different than saying I'm going 
to chop off my head and stand on

1438
01:11:53,970 --> 01:11:57,650
it so I can be taller. 
You know it's ridiculous. 

1439
01:11:57,650 --> 01:12:00,250
It's it just it doesn't work 
that way. 

1440
01:12:00,250 --> 01:12:03,770
So just knowing that principle, 
that scientific principle, had 

1441
01:12:03,770 --> 01:12:06,420
people. 
Anyone who you know understood 

1442
01:12:06,420 --> 01:12:10,020
that science was something much 
bigger than little Anthony Fauci

1443
01:12:10,420 --> 01:12:13,420
knew right away. 
You can't do this. 

1444
01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:15,820
This has never been done. 
It should, should never be done,

1445
01:12:15,820 --> 01:12:20,740
because time is the thing that 
tells all and we don't know all 

1446
01:12:20,740 --> 01:12:22,900
yet. 
So to mandate something that we 

1447
01:12:22,900 --> 01:12:25,740
have no idea what it's going to 
do, there's a lot of us that did

1448
01:12:25,740 --> 01:12:26,460
know. 
We knew. 

1449
01:12:26,980 --> 01:12:28,300
We knew ahead of time. 
This is. 

1450
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,780
This about the death rates. 
Did those ever, Did you ever 

1451
01:12:30,780 --> 01:12:33,390
feel like that was? 
Good information coming your 

1452
01:12:33,390 --> 01:12:34,670
way. 
Were you skeptical of any of the

1453
01:12:34,670 --> 01:12:36,950
other sort of stats and data 
that was driving the behavior? 

1454
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:40,310
Well, I I knew all of it was the
fraud from the beginning. 

1455
01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:43,630
I have a video that I released 
two weeks after the pandemic was

1456
01:12:43,630 --> 01:12:45,670
announced and I said I'm going 
to make a prediction here and 

1457
01:12:45,670 --> 01:12:48,750
that is this virus is manmade, 
intentionally released to kill 

1458
01:12:48,750 --> 01:12:50,630
our economy. 
And to I talked about all the 

1459
01:12:50,630 --> 01:12:53,910
things going on in politics to 
talk about Jeffrey Epstein and 

1460
01:12:53,910 --> 01:12:56,590
all the stuff I said all of this
is a diversion of false flag 

1461
01:12:57,030 --> 01:12:59,630
from a bunch of stuff that's 
going down right now in the 

1462
01:12:59,630 --> 01:13:05,020
world of politics and beyond. 
And so there and you know, my 

1463
01:13:05,020 --> 01:13:09,140
brother was killed by a drug 
called AZT and that drug was 

1464
01:13:09,140 --> 01:13:13,020
prescribed by Anthony Fauci in 
the 80s and 90s and it killed on

1465
01:13:13,020 --> 01:13:17,860
record 300,000 plus innocent 
people, which means probably 3 

1466
01:13:17,860 --> 01:13:21,980
million people. 
And so I knew as soon as I saw 

1467
01:13:21,980 --> 01:13:26,300
him at the helm of this, it blew
my mind because I figured I knew

1468
01:13:26,300 --> 01:13:28,660
what he did in the 80s and 90s, 
and I figured this guy's got to 

1469
01:13:28,660 --> 01:13:33,150
be either high in hiding 
somewhere or, you know, in 

1470
01:13:33,550 --> 01:13:34,310
prison. 
I didn't. 

1471
01:13:34,310 --> 01:13:36,190
I didn't keep track with him 
because back when my brother 

1472
01:13:36,190 --> 01:13:38,070
died, we didn't have the 
Internet, so we weren't able to 

1473
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:40,390
research. 
And I wasn't a researcher or 

1474
01:13:40,390 --> 01:13:45,870
anything like that. 
I was in my early 20s, and but I

1475
01:13:45,870 --> 01:13:48,910
when I saw him resurface, I was 
like, this is not going to go 

1476
01:13:48,910 --> 01:13:50,510
well. 
People have no idea what we're 

1477
01:13:50,510 --> 01:13:53,030
about to experience here. 
Can you touch on AZT just a 

1478
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:54,870
little bit too, just for folks 
that don't have that background?

1479
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:58,640
AZT was a drug that was created 
as just like Remdesivir today of

1480
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:02,120
today, a drug that was created 
and it was touted as the miracle

1481
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:07,240
cure for anyone with HIV AIDS. 
And everyone who took it got 

1482
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,240
more sick right away. 
My brother was one of them who 

1483
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,640
he lived with AIDS for, I don't 
know, eight years or something 

1484
01:14:13,640 --> 01:14:15,000
like that. 
He was a survivor and he 

1485
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,680
probably would have been alive 
today. 

1486
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:22,080
But you know he was told by his 
doctors they all said that 

1487
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:25,120
there's a new drug and it's it's
it's a miracle. 

1488
01:14:25,750 --> 01:14:28,870
And he started to take it and he
became incredibly sick every 

1489
01:14:28,870 --> 01:14:32,150
single day migraine headaches 
and diarrhea and throwing up and

1490
01:14:32,510 --> 01:14:34,870
got really skinny, started to 
look for the first time look 

1491
01:14:34,870 --> 01:14:37,470
like an AIDS patient. 
He looked horrible from a, you 

1492
01:14:37,470 --> 01:14:41,310
know kind of a, you know big 
good looking guy to just a 

1493
01:14:41,310 --> 01:14:48,230
skeleton and and so my mom you 
know she started to her my 

1494
01:14:48,230 --> 01:14:49,710
brother's friends, my brother 
was gay. 

1495
01:14:49,710 --> 01:14:53,110
His community started to come to
him and say and to tell my mom 

1496
01:14:53,110 --> 01:14:58,060
because they all love my mom and
and they say, you know it's it's

1497
01:14:58,060 --> 01:15:00,140
not the virus that's killing 
your son. 

1498
01:15:00,140 --> 01:15:01,700
It's a medicine say, what do you
mean? 

1499
01:15:02,260 --> 01:15:04,220
Yeah, it's killing thousands of 
people. 

1500
01:15:04,220 --> 01:15:05,540
You need to take him off that 
medicine. 

1501
01:15:06,340 --> 01:15:10,940
And then she tuned into the, you
know, latest news flash and 

1502
01:15:10,940 --> 01:15:13,820
there would be Anthony Fauci 
surrounded by the top 

1503
01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:17,300
celebrities of that age, Liza 
Minnelli and Liza Minnelli and 

1504
01:15:17,300 --> 01:15:20,670
Elton John and all these people 
and and everyone's praising what

1505
01:15:20,670 --> 01:15:22,150
a genius and wonderful person he
is. 

1506
01:15:22,150 --> 01:15:23,670
And so. 
These are all icons in the gay 

1507
01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:26,350
community that were celebrities,
Gay celebrities that were had 

1508
01:15:26,350 --> 01:15:27,870
the big voice, right? 
Exactly. 

1509
01:15:28,350 --> 01:15:32,070
And so she's so my mom's left, 
like a lot of people experienced

1510
01:15:32,110 --> 01:15:35,350
just in the last three years, 
where she says, do I listen to a

1511
01:15:35,350 --> 01:15:40,430
bunch of people or do I listen 
to America's top Dr. do I listen

1512
01:15:40,430 --> 01:15:44,350
to science? 
And so she chose to keep my 

1513
01:15:44,350 --> 01:15:48,110
brother on the medicine and she 
never said this out loud. 

1514
01:15:48,110 --> 01:15:51,670
But I know this to be true. 
I think it's probably difficult 

1515
01:15:51,670 --> 01:15:52,990
for a couple of people in my 
family. 

1516
01:15:52,990 --> 01:15:57,230
When the Great Awakening came 
out and I exposed what I thought

1517
01:15:57,230 --> 01:15:59,390
in the beginning of the film, 
they haven't said anything, but 

1518
01:15:59,390 --> 01:16:02,910
I'm sure it probably at least 
made a couple of them think I 

1519
01:16:02,910 --> 01:16:05,390
said that it was grief. 
My mom was a cancer survivor 

1520
01:16:05,390 --> 01:16:07,190
for, jeez, I don't know, 15 
years. 

1521
01:16:07,190 --> 01:16:09,710
And again she would have lived 
to a ripe old age. 

1522
01:16:10,550 --> 01:16:16,760
But she died at 5834 days later,
after the day my brother died 34

1523
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:19,840
days later. 
My mom succumbed to her cancer 

1524
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,360
after fighting it off for 15 
plus years. 

1525
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:26,680
And part of it was grief because
she knew that the choice that 

1526
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:31,280
she had made, that she was 
coerced into and terrorized into

1527
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,720
making, which was keep your son,
the doctor said. 

1528
01:16:34,120 --> 01:16:36,040
We understand. 
I know everybody's having an 

1529
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:39,160
issue with the side effects and 
they're all everyone's, you 

1530
01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:40,720
know, feeling like your son is 
feeling. 

1531
01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:44,640
But he'll his body's just 
acclimating to the new medicine 

1532
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:46,880
and and once that's over, it 
will save his life. 

1533
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:52,840
Otherwise your son will die and 
and to have her son suddenly die

1534
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:59,360
and to realize it's probably the
medicine that I was part of, you

1535
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,360
know, making him stay on. 
How many families are dealing 

1536
01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:06,040
with that right now? 
How many families force the rest

1537
01:17:06,040 --> 01:17:07,520
of their family to get 
vaccinated? 

1538
01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,630
I know, I I can tell you one 
Ernest Ramirez become a very 

1539
01:17:11,630 --> 01:17:15,190
good friend of mine who took his
15 year old son and to get the 

1540
01:17:15,190 --> 01:17:19,270
vaccine and son after giving the
vaccine went on to the 

1541
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:23,870
basketball court 15 years old 
had a heart attack and died and 

1542
01:17:24,150 --> 01:17:28,470
and he that's one of thousands 
if not millions of stories of 

1543
01:17:28,470 --> 01:17:30,390
loved ones who are forever going
to live. 

1544
01:17:30,670 --> 01:17:34,750
It's one thing to lose your 
loved one, but just imagine, 

1545
01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:39,130
imagine the pain that comes with
knowing that the choices that 

1546
01:17:39,130 --> 01:17:42,490
you made were part of what took 
the lives of your loved one. 

1547
01:17:43,090 --> 01:17:45,330
And there are so many families 
that are going through that 

1548
01:17:45,330 --> 01:17:47,970
right now and and most of them 
will never recover. 

1549
01:17:48,530 --> 01:17:51,010
You can't talk to Ernesto about 
his son without him crying. 

1550
01:17:51,010 --> 01:17:54,090
And this is kind of a hard and 
he's a Latino man, he's a, he's 

1551
01:17:54,090 --> 01:17:57,700
a, you know a Harley driver 
rider. 

1552
01:17:58,100 --> 01:17:59,620
I can't believe you said. 
Yeah, you guys say Rider. 

1553
01:17:59,860 --> 01:18:02,500
I ride motorcycles all my life. 
I can't believe I just said 

1554
01:18:02,580 --> 01:18:03,660
that. 
You know, you know what's funny 

1555
01:18:03,660 --> 01:18:06,180
is we have this funny little 
experience. 

1556
01:18:06,180 --> 01:18:08,900
I used to be a paramedic and run
around on an ambulance and and 

1557
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:12,540
we had a hard time calling guys 
that rode scooters riders 

1558
01:18:12,580 --> 01:18:13,900
because that that kind of 
offended me. 

1559
01:18:13,900 --> 01:18:16,300
As someone who rides 
motorcycles, it's like so I 

1560
01:18:16,300 --> 01:18:19,660
called them scooter pilots. 
You got to be specific in your 

1561
01:18:19,660 --> 01:18:21,740
words, right? 
So scooter pilot, motorcycle 

1562
01:18:21,740 --> 01:18:22,940
rider, I'm with you, I'm 
tracking. 

1563
01:18:22,940 --> 01:18:23,460
There you go. 
So. 

1564
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:25,660
He so he rides a Harley and he's
a ride to Harley. 

1565
01:18:25,660 --> 01:18:30,060
You know, he's a he's he's just 
that was his baby was he was 

1566
01:18:30,060 --> 01:18:32,620
raising his son by himself. 
And doing what he thought was 

1567
01:18:32,620 --> 01:18:34,180
right. 
Yeah, And imagine that. 

1568
01:18:34,180 --> 01:18:36,740
Imagine getting a call from the 
the he went out to play 

1569
01:18:36,740 --> 01:18:39,940
basketball with his buddy and 
the mom of the other other other

1570
01:18:39,940 --> 01:18:42,540
kid calling, saying come quick, 
there's some emergency. 

1571
01:18:43,500 --> 01:18:46,140
You know, Ernie Junior, I think 
is what he called him. 

1572
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:53,120
He's collapsed and he was dead. 
And I can't tell you how many 

1573
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,880
stories I've said across from 
people in the interview room 

1574
01:18:56,120 --> 01:19:00,160
hearing this horrible stories of
of innocent people. 

1575
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,040
You know, it's it's, I don't shy
away from calling it genocide 

1576
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:06,280
because that's what's happened 
in our country and in our in our

1577
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:09,600
world in the past few years. 
So yeah, one of my initial 

1578
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:12,080
instincts, just even looking at 
the the name of your website, 

1579
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:16,150
you know? 
Pandemic has a such an emotional

1580
01:19:16,150 --> 01:19:19,110
connotation to a genocide has 
such a emotional connotation to 

1581
01:19:19,110 --> 01:19:20,150
it. 
It's one of those words that 

1582
01:19:20,150 --> 01:19:23,150
just really gets people spun up 
and it ties things together that

1583
01:19:23,150 --> 01:19:26,470
they're not comfortable with. 
And I wonder if it's that we're 

1584
01:19:26,470 --> 01:19:29,030
not okay with hearing things 
that are tough to hear that may 

1585
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:30,790
be part of it. 
And then I wonder if the other 

1586
01:19:30,790 --> 01:19:33,950
piece of it is, is that there's 
so many people in this country 

1587
01:19:33,950 --> 01:19:37,270
that have a vested interest and 
not believing they were part of 

1588
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:40,070
being conned and that they 
didn't have something to do with

1589
01:19:40,070 --> 01:19:41,310
a lot of people having negative 
effects. 

1590
01:19:41,690 --> 01:19:43,530
That you know, the highlight 
reels of people dying on the on 

1591
01:19:43,530 --> 01:19:46,610
the sports field or dying while 
they're doing journalism and 

1592
01:19:46,610 --> 01:19:47,690
broadcasting and all the other 
things. 

1593
01:19:47,690 --> 01:19:50,170
I mean they're they're almost 
comical how common they are and 

1594
01:19:50,170 --> 01:19:51,370
how ridiculous the scenarios 
are. 

1595
01:19:51,370 --> 01:19:53,490
And yet you know every single 
one of them has a story like 

1596
01:19:53,490 --> 01:19:55,690
your like your friend and Nesto,
it sounds like, you know like 

1597
01:19:55,690 --> 01:19:56,850
there's somebody on the other 
end of that. 

1598
01:19:56,930 --> 01:19:58,250
It's so easy to get detached 
from it. 

1599
01:19:58,250 --> 01:20:01,010
I don't have anybody in my life 
that that fell over like that. 

1600
01:20:01,010 --> 01:20:02,690
But I can only imagine like that
would be crippling. 

1601
01:20:03,090 --> 01:20:05,770
Well, and it's yeah, it's tough 
on them for for many levels. 

1602
01:20:05,770 --> 01:20:07,530
So it's it's tough on the 
people. 

1603
01:20:08,290 --> 01:20:12,880
They don't want to to wake up to
the truth for a lot of reasons. 

1604
01:20:12,880 --> 01:20:17,120
It's going to create them great 
pain and for a a couple of 

1605
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:21,960
primary reasons And that is we 
have a a world that has been 

1606
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:26,280
designed to keep people in the 
maze and I call them maintenance

1607
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:28,520
workers, all of us, right. 
We're just maintaining a bunch 

1608
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:31,760
of crap. 
Maintain our house and our cell 

1609
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:34,520
phone and our car and just work 
our whole life. 

1610
01:20:34,720 --> 01:20:40,890
You know it's 5-6 days a week 
and and there's rarely enough 

1611
01:20:40,890 --> 01:20:43,770
money to save or travel or to do
anything other than just 

1612
01:20:43,770 --> 01:20:47,650
maintain all the stuff you're in
debt to and when. 

1613
01:20:47,850 --> 01:20:50,610
And as a result of that, nobody 
has. 

1614
01:20:51,010 --> 01:20:56,650
Very few people have the time 
that in the space to exercise 

1615
01:20:56,650 --> 01:21:00,210
their passions to pursue their 
purpose in life. 

1616
01:21:00,900 --> 01:21:04,940
And so when you when when 
meaning becomes a crisis and we 

1617
01:21:04,940 --> 01:21:07,140
have. 
I think Carl Jung said that we 

1618
01:21:07,140 --> 01:21:11,140
have a crisis of meaning in this
world when people are just 

1619
01:21:11,140 --> 01:21:13,940
existing, even if they can look 
at their life and go I'm 

1620
01:21:13,940 --> 01:21:15,300
grateful for it. 
It's a good life. 

1621
01:21:16,300 --> 01:21:18,820
Cool and and there's meaning in 
it. 

1622
01:21:19,260 --> 01:21:22,900
But is it a meaningful life? 
Is what you're doing the time 

1623
01:21:22,900 --> 01:21:26,820
that you're investing Because 
our energy, our time is 

1624
01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:29,260
valuable. 
What we put our attention to. 

1625
01:21:30,940 --> 01:21:33,740
You know when we say pay 
attention, we're paying as 

1626
01:21:33,740 --> 01:21:39,020
there's value in our attention. 
And when that is being spent on 

1627
01:21:39,020 --> 01:21:41,900
things that we know don't really
matter. 

1628
01:21:43,380 --> 01:21:46,180
It might matter to someone, it 
might matter to the CEO or the 

1629
01:21:46,180 --> 01:21:48,740
inventor of that product or 
whatever it might be, But it 

1630
01:21:48,860 --> 01:21:52,100
doesn't really matter to you if 
that product lives or dies. 

1631
01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:55,260
It just is a paycheck. 
So you can pay for the stuff 

1632
01:21:55,260 --> 01:22:01,000
that owns you when the majority 
of our population is living that

1633
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,680
way paycheck to paycheck and you
suddenly the people running all 

1634
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,200
these agendas and these 
pandemics they they they know. 

1635
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:10,320
They know exactly how to 
manipulate the people. 

1636
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,440
They know that now I've all they
have to do is run on loop in the

1637
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:17,240
in the media. 
They have to we need a villain. 

1638
01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:19,000
So you have to point to the 
villain. 

1639
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,320
The villain are all those people
who aren't are not following the

1640
01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,590
science, those people who are 
doing their own research and 

1641
01:22:25,590 --> 01:22:27,550
thinking for themselves. 
They're actually the bad ones. 

1642
01:22:28,230 --> 01:22:32,870
And one way for you to signal to
others that you are not them is 

1643
01:22:32,870 --> 01:22:35,550
to put on this mask, and then 
everyone will know that you're 

1644
01:22:35,550 --> 01:22:37,070
in compliance and you're the 
good one. 

1645
01:22:37,430 --> 01:22:40,390
How about a How about a virus 
tattooed on your shoulder where 

1646
01:22:40,390 --> 01:22:42,630
you got a shot? 
Or maybe even like a bandage 

1647
01:22:42,630 --> 01:22:44,870
with a date? 
How are those aging you think? 

1648
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:48,310
Exactly, exactly. 
And so that's how much people 

1649
01:22:48,310 --> 01:22:50,390
need, meaning that's how much 
people need connection. 

1650
01:22:50,390 --> 01:22:56,740
There's a a core wound that that
most people are enduring and 

1651
01:22:56,740 --> 01:23:01,620
that is a wound of being 
separate and it's quite possible

1652
01:23:01,620 --> 01:23:05,340
that to some degree we're all 
experiencing that in some way 

1653
01:23:05,860 --> 01:23:09,980
that there really is a it's 
almost as if we've decided to 

1654
01:23:09,980 --> 01:23:12,580
play a game. 
I find it interesting that they 

1655
01:23:12,580 --> 01:23:14,700
say that the name of God is I 
am, that I am. 

1656
01:23:15,260 --> 01:23:16,860
I think I always found that very
interesting. 

1657
01:23:16,860 --> 01:23:19,700
What a weird name quote UN quote
name. 

1658
01:23:20,500 --> 01:23:24,930
And if if that's the name of 
God, why do we spend so much 

1659
01:23:24,930 --> 01:23:28,050
time playing the game. 
I'm not that because that's what

1660
01:23:28,050 --> 01:23:30,850
we do. 
Most of most of our thoughts is.

1661
01:23:30,850 --> 01:23:32,530
I'm not that. 
I don't agree. 

1662
01:23:32,770 --> 01:23:34,370
I wouldn't do what that person 
does. 

1663
01:23:34,370 --> 01:23:37,170
I don't like the way they look 
or the way they sound or what 

1664
01:23:37,170 --> 01:23:38,690
the. 
Basic human judgmentalness. 

1665
01:23:39,250 --> 01:23:41,850
You know way more. 
When I was a teacher, I used to 

1666
01:23:41,850 --> 01:23:46,370
ask my students, give me a list 
of everything that you that you 

1667
01:23:46,370 --> 01:23:49,530
love and you hate. 
And the hate list was instant 

1668
01:23:49,930 --> 01:23:53,450
and long, and it took everybody 
longer to make the list of what 

1669
01:23:53,450 --> 01:23:56,450
they truly loved. 
And you have to really, you 

1670
01:23:56,450 --> 01:23:57,810
know, like, take that in for a 
moment. 

1671
01:23:57,810 --> 01:24:01,250
Why is it so easy for us to say,
I hate traffic, I hate rude 

1672
01:24:01,250 --> 01:24:02,970
people. 
I hate that just, boy, we can 

1673
01:24:02,970 --> 01:24:04,450
pour it out. 
What do you love? 

1674
01:24:05,310 --> 01:24:07,190
And then you go real quick. 
There's a few things off the top

1675
01:24:07,190 --> 01:24:10,990
of my mom. 
And then I used to love Van 

1676
01:24:10,990 --> 01:24:12,110
Halen. 
Not anymore. 

1677
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:14,990
I used to Van Halen. 
Interesting. 

1678
01:24:15,070 --> 01:24:16,030
Interesting. 
Yeah. 

1679
01:24:16,470 --> 01:24:21,830
And so it becomes, it becomes 
more challenging on on the what 

1680
01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:23,590
do you love list for a lot of 
people. 

1681
01:24:24,150 --> 01:24:26,950
And so that tells me there's 
almost like a program like a 

1682
01:24:26,950 --> 01:24:30,750
code that's been installed to 
allow us to have an independent 

1683
01:24:31,070 --> 01:24:35,520
experience of this life because 
we really, truly the same way 

1684
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,600
that our cell phones are 
energetically connected 

1685
01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:42,720
obviously do is dial A frequency
and and and they're directly 

1686
01:24:42,720 --> 01:24:46,200
connected with no physical cord 
between them. 

1687
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,440
And human beings are connected 
that way to each other and to 

1688
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:51,600
our planet to God and to all all
of life. 

1689
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,680
But we it's almost as if we 
wanted to play this game of free

1690
01:24:55,680 --> 01:25:00,600
will, this game of I am, I am 
not that So much so that it's 

1691
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:05,450
created this core wound in us 
that we realized we've kind of 

1692
01:25:05,450 --> 01:25:08,690
swept up in this game to where 
the game has consumed our lives 

1693
01:25:08,690 --> 01:25:12,050
now, to where we're killing each
other now because we're so 

1694
01:25:12,050 --> 01:25:14,170
different. 
Did you ever read the the Enders

1695
01:25:14,170 --> 01:25:15,610
game series? 
Are you familiar with that from 

1696
01:25:15,610 --> 01:25:18,010
Orson Scott Card? 
I have heard of it, but I've not

1697
01:25:18,010 --> 01:25:19,850
read it now. 
Put it on your list of things. 

1698
01:25:19,850 --> 01:25:21,890
I'll I'll just put it in your 
ear and at some point when you 

1699
01:25:21,890 --> 01:25:24,050
get a few seconds or you're on 
an airplane somewhere flying, 

1700
01:25:24,210 --> 01:25:26,330
take it, take a copy of Enders 
and then take a couple of the 

1701
01:25:26,330 --> 01:25:27,890
other ones. 
One of the really interesting. 

1702
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:31,540
Thought experiments. 
So he's a Mormon, but he writes 

1703
01:25:31,540 --> 01:25:33,140
about Catholics, so that's kind 
of funny. 

1704
01:25:33,660 --> 01:25:36,140
And he's writing about this 
future genius society where they

1705
01:25:36,140 --> 01:25:37,900
basically said, you know, we're 
going to be invaded by these 

1706
01:25:37,900 --> 01:25:40,100
aliens, we need these kids and 
they're going to be super kids. 

1707
01:25:40,100 --> 01:25:41,580
And so they breed them for 
brilliance. 

1708
01:25:42,140 --> 01:25:44,220
And one of the concepts in there
that's really, really 

1709
01:25:44,220 --> 01:25:47,660
interesting to me is this, this 
idea of the phylotic connection.

1710
01:25:47,660 --> 01:25:49,860
That's how they had faster than 
light communication, faster than

1711
01:25:49,860 --> 01:25:52,340
light travel, travel across it 
incredible distances. 

1712
01:25:52,340 --> 01:25:54,820
And essentially it's it's like 
it's like quantum physics. 

1713
01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:57,700
It's quantum entanglement is 
what it talks about, different 

1714
01:25:57,700 --> 01:26:00,660
particles being interacting with
other particles at distance 

1715
01:26:00,940 --> 01:26:04,460
instantaneously. 
And then what they even get down

1716
01:26:04,460 --> 01:26:06,660
to even further as they go on 
because he gets into the physics

1717
01:26:06,660 --> 01:26:07,700
of it. 
And it's a scifi book. 

1718
01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:10,100
So they write their own physics.
But the physics are deeply tied 

1719
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:14,500
to metaphysics or religion, and 
essentially that people forge 

1720
01:26:14,500 --> 01:26:17,820
these phylotic connections. 
This particle, this, this deep 

1721
01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:21,180
particle that is within each one
of us can actually bond to 

1722
01:26:21,340 --> 01:26:22,980
partners of ours, people we 
love. 

1723
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:25,400
People that we are deeply 
connected to and so as we 

1724
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,720
resonate in the world so do they
resonate with some of the 

1725
01:26:27,720 --> 01:26:30,400
feelings that we have the 
greater the distance is is 

1726
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,400
irrelevant and and I don't know 
there's a there's just a beauty 

1727
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:36,200
in in the way that he describes 
it is I some of what you're 

1728
01:26:36,200 --> 01:26:38,720
saying rings very true to the 
way that horse and Scott Carr 

1729
01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:41,720
talked about it and and the idea
that it occurs in different 

1730
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,720
laboratories and different minds
to me tells me that there must 

1731
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,160
be some fundamental truth to 
that. 

1732
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,640
So many different people have 
believed that. 

1733
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,920
How many people have said to 
their partner in life, you know,

1734
01:26:51,920 --> 01:26:54,510
like we are one. 
Yeah, we know we're the same 

1735
01:26:54,510 --> 01:26:56,110
thing. 
We we were two what we are one 

1736
01:26:56,230 --> 01:26:58,470
we've bonded. 
There's a biblical connection to

1737
01:26:58,470 --> 01:27:00,350
that and judeo-christian 
tradition as well. 

1738
01:27:00,910 --> 01:27:03,350
Anyway, I I just find it 
fascinating that there it's such

1739
01:27:03,350 --> 01:27:08,830
a ubiquitous experience in human
human history and human 

1740
01:27:09,030 --> 01:27:10,790
relational development. 
You know what I mean there, 

1741
01:27:10,790 --> 01:27:12,830
There has to be some fundamental
deep truth to that. 

1742
01:27:13,550 --> 01:27:15,830
Absolutely. 
I'm I'm glad you're looking at 

1743
01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:18,670
it from that angle because it's 
it's kind of going back to the 

1744
01:27:18,670 --> 01:27:20,150
metaphor of the cells in our 
bodies. 

1745
01:27:20,670 --> 01:27:25,130
And we see ourselves as cells in
the body of this life, this body

1746
01:27:25,250 --> 01:27:28,530
of of of this experience that 
we're having here together. 

1747
01:27:29,730 --> 01:27:33,490
Then we start to realize the 
necessity for us to see each 

1748
01:27:33,490 --> 01:27:36,450
other as allies. 
We don't want to destroy the 

1749
01:27:36,450 --> 01:27:39,170
cell next to us, even if it's 
incredibly different. 

1750
01:27:39,170 --> 01:27:41,970
And you know, it's like you're a
toe cell, you're a brain cell. 

1751
01:27:41,970 --> 01:27:44,930
It's like I'm better than you 
because I'm up here at the top. 

1752
01:27:44,930 --> 01:27:47,210
It's like it's all this silly 
game that we play, this 

1753
01:27:47,210 --> 01:27:53,150
hierarchy that we create as if 
you know, you know I again 

1754
01:27:53,150 --> 01:27:55,790
through when I explain these 
things to my to my kids, I'll 

1755
01:27:55,790 --> 01:27:58,590
use you know baseball metaphors 
because they both play ball and 

1756
01:27:59,350 --> 01:28:04,110
and you know I explain to them 
about how it's everything is a 

1757
01:28:04,110 --> 01:28:09,230
team and every base matters and 
and the pitcher and the catcher 

1758
01:28:09,230 --> 01:28:13,270
might be handling the ball 9090%
more than the rest of the team 

1759
01:28:14,830 --> 01:28:17,230
but that doesn't mean any of 
those positions are any less 

1760
01:28:17,230 --> 01:28:19,870
important. 
Without one of those positions 

1761
01:28:19,870 --> 01:28:23,180
it becomes a hole, a weakness 
that the other team will take 

1762
01:28:23,180 --> 01:28:26,340
advantage of and and that team 
will lose if it minuses. 

1763
01:28:26,340 --> 01:28:30,700
One player needs all nine 
players on the field and and so 

1764
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:34,740
it's important for us to start 
looking at you know our humanity

1765
01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:37,140
in that way like we're we're all
necessary here in this 

1766
01:28:37,140 --> 01:28:41,980
experience even to some degree 
are the ones that we are aware 

1767
01:28:41,980 --> 01:28:47,140
are creating the problems and I 
equate it again spilling out 

1768
01:28:47,140 --> 01:28:51,390
these metaphors understanding 
the world of 3D art as part of 

1769
01:28:51,390 --> 01:28:54,870
my world that I that I work in 
and understanding what it is 

1770
01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:58,030
that makes 3D what's the 
difference between 2D and 3D 

1771
01:28:58,630 --> 01:29:01,190
shadow. 
And so we're we're here in the 

1772
01:29:01,190 --> 01:29:03,950
third dimension that we call 
this scientifically the third 

1773
01:29:03,950 --> 01:29:10,270
dimension and and and so shadow 
is necessary. 

1774
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:15,350
We'll always have shadow and 
we'll never get rid of it nor do

1775
01:29:15,350 --> 01:29:17,190
we want to totally get rid of 
it. 

1776
01:29:17,350 --> 01:29:22,030
But we cannot allow the shadow 
to consume the entire image with

1777
01:29:22,030 --> 01:29:26,150
darkness because it just becomes
one oblique dark picture and 

1778
01:29:26,150 --> 01:29:29,270
that's what the shadows 
attempting to do right now And 

1779
01:29:29,270 --> 01:29:33,110
So what then how do you defeat 
that By shining brighter. 

1780
01:29:34,430 --> 01:29:37,510
And that's what everyone needs 
to do right now is to shine 

1781
01:29:37,510 --> 01:29:40,030
brighter. 
Don't allow the darkness, the 

1782
01:29:40,030 --> 01:29:43,730
shadow to consume you such that 
you are now a shadow. 

1783
01:29:44,250 --> 01:29:45,570
Because that's what happens, 
right? 

1784
01:29:45,570 --> 01:29:48,090
You take on the shadow and you 
become a every day you're 

1785
01:29:48,090 --> 01:29:52,490
complaining and you're in fear 
and now, OK, you're a shadow 

1786
01:29:52,490 --> 01:29:57,130
maker now and when you really 
came here to shine your light 

1787
01:29:58,050 --> 01:30:01,250
and that's how we defeat this is
it's just the the image is being

1788
01:30:01,250 --> 01:30:07,010
amplified and and it's and it's 
pixels and it's brilliance and 

1789
01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:09,450
the the shadows forcing us to 
shine brighter. 

1790
01:30:09,850 --> 01:30:11,490
And so there's also divinity in 
that. 

1791
01:30:12,850 --> 01:30:14,450
Yeah. 
And honestly, shadow is what, 

1792
01:30:14,450 --> 01:30:17,850
it's the ability to absorb light
as opposed to reflect light and 

1793
01:30:17,890 --> 01:30:20,290
and share it. 
You know, it takes it in. 

1794
01:30:20,970 --> 01:30:22,930
Interestingly, I was just 
thinking about one of the the 

1795
01:30:22,930 --> 01:30:24,930
worst things you could probably 
say to one of your children 

1796
01:30:25,290 --> 01:30:27,290
would be to tell them that they 
are useless. 

1797
01:30:27,770 --> 01:30:30,010
That would be a like a 
debilitating blow, I think from 

1798
01:30:30,010 --> 01:30:33,010
a parent, especially from a 
father, the idea that you don't 

1799
01:30:33,010 --> 01:30:34,890
have any value, that you can't 
add anything. 

1800
01:30:35,150 --> 01:30:36,470
Right. 
And then I don't remember if you

1801
01:30:36,470 --> 01:30:38,550
never heard that when you were a
kid, but I know that would be 

1802
01:30:38,550 --> 01:30:40,390
one of the things that you're 
useless get off the field, 

1803
01:30:40,390 --> 01:30:42,630
whatever it may be, right? 
You know, it's just, it's it's 

1804
01:30:42,630 --> 01:30:44,230
crushing. 
And if it comes from your peers,

1805
01:30:44,230 --> 01:30:46,310
it's less important if it comes 
from someone you really respect 

1806
01:30:46,590 --> 01:30:49,150
and from from an adult. 
And that could be that could be 

1807
01:30:49,150 --> 01:30:51,710
debilitating. 
And you know you just said 

1808
01:30:51,710 --> 01:30:55,230
everybody has value. 
On that note, since you're is 

1809
01:30:55,390 --> 01:30:57,870
this your first child? 
6 year old is your first child. 

1810
01:30:58,070 --> 01:31:00,110
My first is 6. 
Yeah, I got a four, I got a two,

1811
01:31:00,110 --> 01:31:01,590
and I got another one to come in
a couple days. 

1812
01:31:01,590 --> 01:31:08,780
So, wow, fantastic. 
The one phrase that is way too 

1813
01:31:08,780 --> 01:31:12,660
often uttered by parents, and it
does so much damage to kids, and

1814
01:31:12,660 --> 01:31:15,580
it's so common, is what is wrong
with you. 

1815
01:31:16,820 --> 01:31:19,660
That's a really harmful thing to
say to your children. 

1816
01:31:19,660 --> 01:31:23,180
What is wrong with you? 
Because when it comes from most 

1817
01:31:23,180 --> 01:31:27,460
parents, because they have been 
disempowered, they don't feel 

1818
01:31:27,460 --> 01:31:30,820
like powerful people. 
They don't understand then the 

1819
01:31:30,860 --> 01:31:33,140
influence they have on that 
little human that they brought 

1820
01:31:33,140 --> 01:31:36,040
into this world. 
And when a parent says what is 

1821
01:31:36,040 --> 01:31:38,720
wrong with you, what they're 
actually telling the child is 

1822
01:31:38,720 --> 01:31:42,360
something's wrong with you. 
And so that child will live into

1823
01:31:42,360 --> 01:31:46,120
that and they will create 
something wrong with them and 

1824
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,480
they'll spend their life living 
through the filter that 

1825
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:53,160
something's wrong with me. 
And you know, and then Monday 

1826
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:55,440
they'll do mushrooms or 
ayahuasca and get over it. 

1827
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:59,480
But. 
As as is needed but 

1828
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:03,150
consciousness expansion. 
But until that happens you know 

1829
01:32:03,150 --> 01:32:06,710
they they will endure a lot of 
hardship and relationships and 

1830
01:32:06,710 --> 01:32:08,230
failures and business and all of
that. 

1831
01:32:08,230 --> 01:32:13,350
Because if you which is why I 
you know I've had to leave my 

1832
01:32:13,350 --> 01:32:17,070
industry of Hollywood because I 
realized wow these narratives 

1833
01:32:17,070 --> 01:32:20,030
even a lot of my favorite films 
are so destructive. 

1834
01:32:20,110 --> 01:32:24,350
It's just almost every scifi 
movie is about humanity. 

1835
01:32:24,350 --> 01:32:28,630
Humanity being a plague, a 
cancer, a failed experiment, you

1836
01:32:28,630 --> 01:32:30,310
know, and. 
We're not the good guys in 

1837
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:32,750
Hollywood anymore, people. 
No, we haven't been for a long 

1838
01:32:32,750 --> 01:32:34,910
time, particularly us men. 
Yeah. 

1839
01:32:34,910 --> 01:32:37,390
And I mean, I I mean, I remember
watching Fern Gully, which was 

1840
01:32:37,390 --> 01:32:39,950
animated when I was a kid, and 
thinking like, oh, like, who are

1841
01:32:39,950 --> 01:32:42,430
the bad people, The loggers, the
industrialists, the people 

1842
01:32:42,430 --> 01:32:44,590
trying to build homes for 
people? 

1843
01:32:45,030 --> 01:32:46,910
And they're they're killing off 
the fairyland, right? 

1844
01:32:46,910 --> 01:32:49,110
And even that is just, it's such
a silly version of it and you 

1845
01:32:49,110 --> 01:32:51,350
look at it and we got to 
reeducate our killed kids. 

1846
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:53,550
When we show them these things, 
it's like, well, there's another

1847
01:32:53,550 --> 01:32:55,510
side of that story because there
are people that were living on 

1848
01:32:55,510 --> 01:32:57,550
the ground. 
Where they were in the Amazon 

1849
01:32:57,550 --> 01:32:59,030
and you're giving them industry 
and you're giving them 

1850
01:32:59,030 --> 01:33:00,950
opportunities. 
Yeah, there's always. 

1851
01:33:00,950 --> 01:33:02,390
Trees have sentience. 
Maybe not. 

1852
01:33:02,670 --> 01:33:04,710
Yeah. 
Yeah, there's there's always 

1853
01:33:05,790 --> 01:33:10,110
another side to each of those 
stories and I'm glad you look at

1854
01:33:10,110 --> 01:33:13,310
those because our kids need to 
understand those other sides and

1855
01:33:14,190 --> 01:33:17,550
and and and learn how to detect 
themselves when they're being 

1856
01:33:17,550 --> 01:33:20,910
fed a narrative that is meant to
manipulate them in some way. 

1857
01:33:21,560 --> 01:33:23,400
My 12 year old. 
So into that right now it's, 

1858
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:24,880
it's, it's. 
Calling out the narrative 

1859
01:33:25,000 --> 01:33:27,760
wonderful and also sometimes 
annoying to watch a movie with 

1860
01:33:27,760 --> 01:33:30,360
him because he'll be like I'm 
sorry I got to pause Dad okay 

1861
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,200
that's total indoctrination 
right there. 

1862
01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:33,440
I'll tell you what they're what 
you hear. 

1863
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:35,880
We rewind it. 
Listen did you hear that Aha. 

1864
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:39,160
So he'll be catch he catches. 
I love it and it's super cool 

1865
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,120
and and it's always you know 
very rarely do I have to go 

1866
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:44,520
actually not buddy that's that's
truth. 

1867
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:48,680
What the 2nd is yeah I'm explain
it to you but most most of the 

1868
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,180
time I'm just like I didn't 
catch that myself. 

1869
01:33:51,180 --> 01:33:52,460
You're right. 
Yeah, that's it. 

1870
01:33:53,260 --> 01:33:55,300
But you tuned him to it. 
Yeah. 

1871
01:33:55,300 --> 01:33:57,660
And that's we know that's that's
where we want them. 

1872
01:33:57,660 --> 01:34:00,100
We want them to be able to 
navigate, like you said at the 

1873
01:34:00,100 --> 01:34:03,420
beginning of this conversation. 
We don't want to shelter them 

1874
01:34:03,420 --> 01:34:06,220
and hide them from the world. 
I want them to have the full 

1875
01:34:06,220 --> 01:34:10,460
breadth of experience out there 
to to climb the mountains and 

1876
01:34:10,660 --> 01:34:14,260
and raft the streams and and do 
all of that and hang out with 

1877
01:34:14,260 --> 01:34:17,260
kids that they like and don't 
like and have all those 

1878
01:34:17,260 --> 01:34:20,050
experiences of all that 
different challenging archetypes

1879
01:34:20,050 --> 01:34:24,410
that are available out there. 
But I also don't want them to 

1880
01:34:24,890 --> 01:34:28,490
get caught up in the mind traps 
that most of our children are 

1881
01:34:28,490 --> 01:34:30,010
caught up in right now. 
And that's we. 

1882
01:34:30,010 --> 01:34:33,690
A lot of that we can owe to 
either their their school or 

1883
01:34:33,730 --> 01:34:39,570
social media where they are 
trying to gain attention and 

1884
01:34:39,570 --> 01:34:43,050
fill that void of love that they
didn't get from typically from 

1885
01:34:43,050 --> 01:34:46,090
dad. 
That's most common that you 

1886
01:34:46,090 --> 01:34:51,090
know, that men are just so 
detached from their value as a 

1887
01:34:51,090 --> 01:34:54,690
nurturer that they have just 
fallen to role role of provider 

1888
01:34:54,690 --> 01:34:57,490
only. 
And that does great damage to a 

1889
01:34:57,490 --> 01:35:01,210
child when they don't have that 
to to see that side of dad or 

1890
01:35:01,210 --> 01:35:03,210
they're the other way. 
They're they're the, you know, 

1891
01:35:03,290 --> 01:35:08,050
the culture that I escaped which
was the new age cult where 

1892
01:35:08,050 --> 01:35:11,130
fathers are being so feminized 
that they're they're shamed 

1893
01:35:11,130 --> 01:35:14,010
anytime that they become strong 
with their with their child. 

1894
01:35:14,550 --> 01:35:19,110
And at both of my boys when they
got about four years old taking 

1895
01:35:19,110 --> 01:35:21,590
my first son, I realized I'm 
like, like we've read all the 

1896
01:35:21,590 --> 01:35:24,990
damn conscious parenting books 
and we're trying so hard to do 

1897
01:35:24,990 --> 01:35:27,830
this thing And we lived in a 
super Uber spiritual place in 

1898
01:35:27,830 --> 01:35:29,430
California called Ojai 
California. 

1899
01:35:30,150 --> 01:35:32,310
And and so everybody was on 
this. 

1900
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:34,230
You know, this is how you do it.
You know, the kids hitting you 

1901
01:35:34,230 --> 01:35:35,670
in the face and you're going, I 
see you're angry. 

1902
01:35:35,670 --> 01:35:36,590
I see. 
You're angry. 

1903
01:35:37,070 --> 01:35:38,910
You know, and. 
How am I not fulfilling you? 

1904
01:35:38,950 --> 01:35:42,310
Yeah, exactly. 
And so one day I just was like, 

1905
01:35:42,830 --> 01:35:45,920
I'm done. 
This is not working and this kid

1906
01:35:45,920 --> 01:35:49,320
is not going to run our life. 
And I, thankfully my son, had 

1907
01:35:49,320 --> 01:35:53,480
another little buddy who we were
able to look at that family go. 

1908
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,360
That's what not to do. 
They'll be like, we all go out 

1909
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:58,840
to dinner, their first dinner in
three months, and that kid 

1910
01:35:58,840 --> 01:36:00,680
decides he wants to go after 20 
minutes. 

1911
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,120
And it's like he really needs to
go. 

1912
01:36:02,240 --> 01:36:04,080
He's very sensitive, a lot of 
energy in here. 

1913
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,680
And then be like they're gone 
and we're like my wife and I sit

1914
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:10,150
there going, wow took their food
to go and they left because 

1915
01:36:10,150 --> 01:36:12,430
they're five year old kids that 
it was time to go that's. 

1916
01:36:12,630 --> 01:36:15,630
It looks crazy when you have 
enough of a relief to look back 

1917
01:36:15,630 --> 01:36:18,430
from just a few feet away. 
So I finally one day just said, 

1918
01:36:19,590 --> 01:36:20,870
and I'll tell you the short 
story. 

1919
01:36:21,190 --> 01:36:24,830
It's worth repeating, especially
to another father I was 

1920
01:36:24,830 --> 01:36:27,230
watching. 
My wife just said the day 

1921
01:36:27,230 --> 01:36:29,510
suggested it might be that the 
movie called Buck. 

1922
01:36:29,630 --> 01:36:31,870
Maybe it was Buck. 
It's a movie about a man who 

1923
01:36:31,870 --> 01:36:35,070
trains wild Mustangs and 
documentary. 

1924
01:36:35,960 --> 01:36:38,600
And I remember watching that 
being, it changed my life 

1925
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:41,800
because, you know, in one minute
he, he'd encounter this wild 

1926
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,880
Mustang that was just bucking 
and like, you're not getting 

1927
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:47,200
anywhere near me, dude. 
And in 10 minutes, the horse 

1928
01:36:47,200 --> 01:36:51,240
would be literally bowing and 
the guy would jump on at 

1929
01:36:51,240 --> 01:36:54,080
bareback and be riding this 
horse, this wild Mustang. 

1930
01:36:54,080 --> 01:36:58,160
And I was just like, wow does he
do that? 

1931
01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,720
And and then I became aware of 
the horse. 

1932
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,280
It's demeanor. 
It's like, that's interesting. 

1933
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:10,270
Like you could feel that the 
horse, never its whole, whole 

1934
01:37:10,270 --> 01:37:14,150
life was about trying to 
survive, trying to avoid 

1935
01:37:14,150 --> 01:37:16,750
predators. 
Everything was a predator. 

1936
01:37:17,590 --> 01:37:20,950
It didn't have it. 
It never had an alpha something 

1937
01:37:20,950 --> 01:37:23,950
that was stronger than it but 
didn't want to kill it. 

1938
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:28,110
And you could almost feel the 
horse take a breath. 

1939
01:37:28,110 --> 01:37:33,110
Like there's something out there
more powerful than me that just 

1940
01:37:33,110 --> 01:37:34,870
wants to ride me and not hurt 
me. 

1941
01:37:35,740 --> 01:37:39,580
Wow. 
And that's when I went, thank 

1942
01:37:39,580 --> 01:37:41,660
God I have a wife. 
That doesn't stop me from being 

1943
01:37:41,660 --> 01:37:43,940
a man, you know, Because I said,
sweetheart, something's going to

1944
01:37:43,940 --> 01:37:45,420
change. 
Everything's going to change. 

1945
01:37:45,420 --> 01:37:51,860
Because what I said, I'm not 
going to raise my boys to. 

1946
01:37:52,140 --> 01:37:57,700
I said when a child is aware 
that they can manipulate the two

1947
01:37:58,500 --> 01:38:01,380
pillars of their lives, the two 
people who came together and 

1948
01:38:01,380 --> 01:38:05,110
made them. 
When a child is aware that I can

1949
01:38:05,110 --> 01:38:09,790
manipulate these two big people,
what else happens in that child?

1950
01:38:10,030 --> 01:38:13,230
They don't feel safe because 
then they're thinking, if I'm 

1951
01:38:13,230 --> 01:38:16,550
smarter than these two and I can
just make a sound, make them 

1952
01:38:16,550 --> 01:38:19,590
move whenever I want them to, 
who has my back? 

1953
01:38:20,710 --> 01:38:21,470
I said. 
That's right. 

1954
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:23,550
It's just me. 
I'm just all by myself. 

1955
01:38:23,550 --> 01:38:25,150
They're behaving the way they're
behaving out there. 

1956
01:38:25,150 --> 01:38:27,670
They don't feel safe. 
They don't have fathers that 

1957
01:38:27,670 --> 01:38:31,990
take care of business that are, 
you know, a balance, and I mean 

1958
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:37,120
balance Uber loving, Uber 
sensitive, Uber caring and 

1959
01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:41,120
fierce. 
My kids last night we said too 

1960
01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,560
many times go to bed because I 
had a dentist appointment at 

1961
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:46,480
8:30 this morning. 
So they had to go to bed at an 

1962
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:47,840
hour. 
They're not used to going to bed

1963
01:38:48,200 --> 01:38:50,320
particularly, and and they're 
just up there, chattering, 

1964
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:51,320
chattering, chattering. 
Right. 

1965
01:38:51,320 --> 01:38:53,080
And the light's still out 
because it's still summer and 

1966
01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,720
all that. 
Eight times later, I'm like done

1967
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,120
and I go up and I grab 
everything that's dear to them, 

1968
01:38:58,760 --> 01:38:59,960
you know? 
And I said you've lost it for a 

1969
01:38:59,960 --> 01:39:01,840
week. 
That's it. 

1970
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:04,280
And they got the first thing 
that this morning when they got 

1971
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:06,720
up, they saw me and they go, 
dad, I'm really sorry about last

1972
01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,240
night. 
How long did we lose it for? 

1973
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:11,880
I said for a week they go, OK, 
you know, but it's like, no, 

1974
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,120
it's just and I and I explain 
them so you understand. 

1975
01:39:14,120 --> 01:39:16,200
It's it's frustrating. 
We don't want the last thing 

1976
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:18,880
that we say to you at night to 
be us yelling go to bed. 

1977
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:21,120
I don't. 
I don't want that to be it. 

1978
01:39:21,120 --> 01:39:24,800
I want you to respect our words 
when we say, you know finish 

1979
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,480
reading your book and go to bed.
We want you to honor that. 

1980
01:39:27,480 --> 01:39:32,050
But when I hour later when I 
hear, what is that up there, Oh 

1981
01:39:32,090 --> 01:39:34,810
my God, they're still awake. 
And I go up there and I listen 

1982
01:39:34,810 --> 01:39:36,090
to your door and you're still 
awake. 

1983
01:39:36,290 --> 01:39:39,530
That's disrespectful because you
agreed, you said okay, we set 

1984
01:39:39,530 --> 01:39:41,970
down a rule and you and you 
didn't listen. 

1985
01:39:42,570 --> 01:39:45,770
And that's not respectful. 
So we're really big on respect 

1986
01:39:45,810 --> 01:39:49,250
and integrity of our word. 
And so when they lose something 

1987
01:39:49,250 --> 01:39:51,330
because they don't keep their 
word that they don't fuss about 

1988
01:39:51,330 --> 01:39:53,170
it because they're like their 
word's important to them. 

1989
01:39:53,170 --> 01:39:54,890
So, like, we deserve it. 
Awesome. 

1990
01:39:55,370 --> 01:39:57,690
Well, you know too, if you if 
you get into your kids and and 

1991
01:39:57,690 --> 01:39:59,330
they give you one of these 
things where it's like if you 

1992
01:39:59,330 --> 01:40:01,090
wanted to raise your voice, you 
could probably amp. 

1993
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:03,880
Camp that energy level up as 
high as you want and they can 

1994
01:40:03,880 --> 01:40:05,600
match it or not, and they 
they'll lose. 

1995
01:40:05,600 --> 01:40:08,280
They're smaller, but if you told
them in a whisper that you're 

1996
01:40:08,280 --> 01:40:11,280
really disappointed in them. 
Oh, yeah, That's the end. 

1997
01:40:11,320 --> 01:40:14,560
I mean, that was the end for me.
If my dad would have come to me 

1998
01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,960
and tell me he was disappointed 
and then I let him down, he 

1999
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:19,360
could say that as quietly as he 
wanted. 

2000
01:40:19,440 --> 01:40:20,880
And I would hear it like a 
gunshot. 

2001
01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:23,520
Right. 
And so it's just a Miss Balanced

2002
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:24,560
Power. 
There's a guy that I 

2003
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:25,520
interviewed. 
His name is Mark. 

2004
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:27,000
How he may be familiar with his 
story. 

2005
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:31,410
He was arrested in Philadelphia 
for defending his child on the 

2006
01:40:31,410 --> 01:40:32,770
streets. 
There was he was a pro-life 

2007
01:40:32,770 --> 01:40:34,010
activist. 
He was out praying outside of an

2008
01:40:34,010 --> 01:40:36,770
abortion clinic and had a 70 
year old man saying the worst 

2009
01:40:36,770 --> 01:40:40,250
things that you can imagine a 
grown up saying to a boy and to 

2010
01:40:40,250 --> 01:40:44,410
another man and he shoved the 
guy and charges were declined by

2011
01:40:44,410 --> 01:40:47,970
the local, the prosecutors and 
then the DOJ, the FBI came and 

2012
01:40:47,970 --> 01:40:51,730
arrested him with a with a team 
of people with rifles and he has

2013
01:40:51,730 --> 01:40:53,930
a group that's called the King's
Bend and he's a, he's a very 

2014
01:40:53,930 --> 01:40:55,530
Catholic man. 
He's a very devout man. 

2015
01:40:55,530 --> 01:40:57,860
He's got a bunch of kids. 
He has 9 or 12, I can't 

2016
01:40:57,860 --> 01:41:00,180
remember, but it's a lot and it 
was it was an impressive number 

2017
01:41:00,180 --> 01:41:04,820
whatever it was And he his 
principles of leadership for men

2018
01:41:04,820 --> 01:41:07,420
because he he does a men's 
retreat and they teach outdoor 

2019
01:41:07,420 --> 01:41:08,620
wilderness skills and things 
like that. 

2020
01:41:08,860 --> 01:41:11,380
You mentioned that the balances 
and what he says there's three 

2021
01:41:11,380 --> 01:41:12,540
of them and see how they ring to
you. 

2022
01:41:12,940 --> 01:41:18,460
He says the man's role is 
protector, provider and leader. 

2023
01:41:19,420 --> 01:41:21,580
And I've never heard him in 
three simple things. 

2024
01:41:21,580 --> 01:41:23,900
Sometimes a good number like 
that three is pretty easy. 

2025
01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:26,750
It's it's stable, but it it is 
essentially the things that 

2026
01:41:26,750 --> 01:41:28,830
you're describing right there, 
what that alpha looks like 

2027
01:41:29,430 --> 01:41:34,870
powerful but also benevolent and
maybe that's a lot of what 

2028
01:41:34,870 --> 01:41:37,110
people are forgetting that 
masculinity is supposed to have.

2029
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:40,070
You know a lot of those things. 
It it it's the whole it's the 

2030
01:41:40,070 --> 01:41:42,670
whole idea. 
When you look at guys like David

2031
01:41:42,670 --> 01:41:45,310
Grossman and his On Killing, you
know the the the sheepdog 

2032
01:41:45,310 --> 01:41:47,310
concept of the three. 
It's it's obviously a very 

2033
01:41:47,310 --> 01:41:49,910
simplified world view of the 
sheep that the OR the sheep, the

2034
01:41:49,910 --> 01:41:52,790
wolf and the and the sheepdog. 
But the sheepdog looks a lot 

2035
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:54,510
like a wolf, and that's why it 
scares people. 

2036
01:41:54,840 --> 01:41:57,280
But it's benevolent and it has 
protection in mind. 

2037
01:41:57,640 --> 01:41:59,720
And so people want to, you know,
they they look around and they 

2038
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:01,880
go, oh, it's the teeth that are 
the problem? 

2039
01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,840
No, no, It's the behavior with 
the teeth turns out to be the. 

2040
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:07,040
Well, I I agree with those 3 
distinctions and I would 

2041
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:10,440
probably add a fourth and that's
some somewhere in the in the 

2042
01:42:10,440 --> 01:42:12,880
realm of nurturing because I 
think that there are a lot of 

2043
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:19,920
fathers who who are only show 
the leader side, only show the 

2044
01:42:20,080 --> 01:42:23,960
the provider side and those are 
incredibly important. 

2045
01:42:25,240 --> 01:42:29,440
But what I found with my boys 
hopefully one day you'll meet my

2046
01:42:29,440 --> 01:42:36,760
boys they really are special 
special kids and and they what I

2047
01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:40,200
love about them is we can't go 
through an airport without them 

2048
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:44,360
saying dad look how cute that 
baby is you know like they're 

2049
01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:49,200
they are already and when I they
did a what they call their dream

2050
01:42:49,200 --> 01:42:52,000
board exercise during summer 
camp. 

2051
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,160
And they came back and they both
had on their dream boards that 

2052
01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,040
part, one of the things that 
they want to be when they grow 

2053
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:02,200
up is an awesome dad. 
And and that just made me so 

2054
01:43:02,200 --> 01:43:05,560
happy that that's that it wasn't
football player or you know, it 

2055
01:43:05,560 --> 01:43:07,680
was like an awesome dad. 
That was He doesn't want to be a

2056
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:09,680
cowboy or a gunfighter or an 
astronaut. 

2057
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:11,920
Right there, there. 
And that's an achievable thing, 

2058
01:43:11,920 --> 01:43:13,280
by the way. 
An awesome dad. 

2059
01:43:13,640 --> 01:43:17,280
It's truly achievable and and 
when you see them with other 

2060
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:19,520
children, I know what kind of 
dad they're going to be. 

2061
01:43:20,040 --> 01:43:24,300
You know, I have a I have a my. 
My creative partner has a six 

2062
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:28,420
year old and every now and then 
when she's out of school and and

2063
01:43:29,220 --> 01:43:32,580
he and her mother are separated 
and she can't take care of her. 

2064
01:43:33,020 --> 01:43:35,500
He'll have to bring her here for
a day And my boys take care of 

2065
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:39,540
her all day long. 6 year old 
little girl and you know 8 hours

2066
01:43:39,540 --> 01:43:41,220
9 hours and they're with her all
day long. 

2067
01:43:41,220 --> 01:43:43,540
We don't have to even question 
you know they're taking such 

2068
01:43:43,540 --> 01:43:47,060
good care of her feeding her and
and that's how you raise a good 

2069
01:43:47,060 --> 01:43:54,500
little man and because. 
One thing that a lot of men have

2070
01:43:54,500 --> 01:43:59,700
missed out on is emotional 
literacy of understanding, not 

2071
01:43:59,700 --> 01:44:02,780
just being the tough guy, you 
know, I mean we have that side 

2072
01:44:02,780 --> 01:44:06,140
of us too, you know, we're full.
I was a motocross racer and my 

2073
01:44:06,140 --> 01:44:09,580
both my boys raced BMX and so 
we're full on contact. 

2074
01:44:09,740 --> 01:44:15,140
Extreme sports on one hand and 
and then there's a a real soft 

2075
01:44:15,140 --> 01:44:20,300
side that I think men need to. 
And I don't mean soft as in 

2076
01:44:20,300 --> 01:44:22,140
weak. 
I mean soft as in fiercely 

2077
01:44:22,140 --> 01:44:25,700
powerful. 
But having that ability to be 

2078
01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:31,300
sensitive enough to to have 
intimate connections. 

2079
01:44:31,340 --> 01:44:33,420
You know, when you look at your 
child, do they see the love in 

2080
01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:36,900
your eyes? 
Do you know how to express to 

2081
01:44:36,900 --> 01:44:39,460
them when you're, when you're 
going through a hard time? 

2082
01:44:40,140 --> 01:44:41,420
I've had to sit down with my 
boys. 

2083
01:44:41,420 --> 01:44:45,660
There was the first time I cried
with them was powerful because I

2084
01:44:46,100 --> 01:44:48,220
I got a little too aggressive 
with. 

2085
01:44:48,540 --> 01:44:52,060
Punishment one day and I 
realized a lot of it was just 

2086
01:44:52,060 --> 01:44:55,540
me. 
This is probably five years ago 

2087
01:44:56,060 --> 01:45:02,180
and I was just having a really 
frustrating day and and the 

2088
01:45:02,860 --> 01:45:08,140
thought that I would be that I 
would take some of that out on 

2089
01:45:08,540 --> 01:45:11,060
the two beans that I love more 
than anything in this world 

2090
01:45:11,740 --> 01:45:15,360
crushed me. 
And I had to go. 

2091
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,400
I would just went into to 
apologize. 

2092
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,880
But then I felt these tears well
and I thought I got to shut this

2093
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,800
off and I went there I go, 
that's what men do. 

2094
01:45:23,400 --> 01:45:24,960
And it said I went no, let them 
flow. 

2095
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:28,280
And I remember my boy just 
looking up at me like Daddy's 

2096
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:31,080
crying and this must be 
important. 

2097
01:45:31,200 --> 01:45:36,560
I said I I daddy's growing, too.
That is Daddy's learning too, 

2098
01:45:36,560 --> 01:45:38,400
buddy. 
I don't have it all figured out.

2099
01:45:38,940 --> 01:45:42,980
I'm doing my best and life is an
ongoing process of learning. 

2100
01:45:42,980 --> 01:45:47,980
You never stop learning. 
And and I just learned a big 

2101
01:45:47,980 --> 01:45:53,260
lesson and I'm really, really 
sorry for yelling at you and you

2102
01:45:53,260 --> 01:45:55,780
didn't deserve that. 
That was that was something that

2103
01:45:56,100 --> 01:45:59,460
you didn't deserve and that'll 
stay with them for a very long 

2104
01:45:59,540 --> 01:46:01,410
time. 
They'll probably always remember

2105
01:46:01,410 --> 01:46:03,330
that. 
I remember my dad going over the

2106
01:46:03,450 --> 01:46:05,530
you know, I probably earned 
whatever punishment I got. 

2107
01:46:05,530 --> 01:46:07,770
I'm and he he'll listen to this.
So that's even funnier. 

2108
01:46:07,770 --> 01:46:09,690
But you know, I there was a 
couple of times when I 

2109
01:46:09,690 --> 01:46:12,010
definitely earned A throttling, 
whatever it was, you know, 

2110
01:46:12,010 --> 01:46:16,370
whether verbal or physical. 
And you know, I still remember 

2111
01:46:16,370 --> 01:46:18,610
him taking a knee and and coming
in and apologizing. 

2112
01:46:18,930 --> 01:46:22,250
Yeah, and now my now, you know, 
my my kids do that with each 

2113
01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:24,210
other now. 
My son's almost never fight. 

2114
01:46:24,290 --> 01:46:27,130
And when they do, I just Was it 
yesterday or the day before 

2115
01:46:27,930 --> 01:46:31,430
that? 
Yeah, I think it was yesterday. 

2116
01:46:31,430 --> 01:46:34,150
As a matter of fact, my 12 year 
old, it's very rare. 

2117
01:46:34,150 --> 01:46:38,510
He's such a patient Big Brother.
My little one is, is he can be 

2118
01:46:38,510 --> 01:46:41,910
annoying because he's just like 
he's just filled with energy. 

2119
01:46:41,910 --> 01:46:45,070
So, So like after a full day 
with him, there's a point when 

2120
01:46:45,070 --> 01:46:48,990
you're like, wow, you know, 
because he's just questions and 

2121
01:46:49,590 --> 01:46:52,470
he's full out and he's, he's the
one that's rough all the time 

2122
01:46:52,470 --> 01:46:54,790
and he's pinching and he's, you 
know, just having fun. 

2123
01:46:54,790 --> 01:46:56,390
It's always, always in good 
humor. 

2124
01:46:56,860 --> 01:46:58,980
But but he's getting you gotta 
set him straight. 

2125
01:46:59,340 --> 01:47:04,140
You have to be like enough call 
it my body you know boundaries. 

2126
01:47:04,940 --> 01:47:08,220
And so my older son got to that 
point but he really unleashed he

2127
01:47:08,220 --> 01:47:10,300
was in the back seat of the car 
and he really it's rare to hear 

2128
01:47:10,300 --> 01:47:16,460
him be like stop it you know 
like and then and then my wife 

2129
01:47:16,460 --> 01:47:20,020
and I always just like it's so 
rare because his name is Azai. 

2130
01:47:20,020 --> 01:47:21,620
It's so rare that Azai goes 
there. 

2131
01:47:21,620 --> 01:47:23,820
But we're just like we don't 
want to interfere. 

2132
01:47:23,820 --> 01:47:25,300
We want them to be able to work 
it out. 

2133
01:47:26,110 --> 01:47:28,510
And then a minute later he's 
like, I'm sorry Sir, he goes, I 

2134
01:47:28,510 --> 01:47:30,870
just really, it's like there's 
what you did. 

2135
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:33,750
But it was also, you know, 
something else that I he was 

2136
01:47:33,750 --> 01:47:38,150
able to put it together to tell 
his brother that was an out of 

2137
01:47:38,150 --> 01:47:39,750
proportion reaction to what you 
did. 

2138
01:47:40,030 --> 01:47:42,350
And it was really sophisticated 
thing for a 12 year old. 

2139
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:46,310
Really like I and I'm just like 
my wife and our sneak and look 

2140
01:47:46,310 --> 01:47:48,110
like how many grownups do we 
know that can't do that. 

2141
01:47:48,350 --> 01:47:49,910
Few. 
Very few. 

2142
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:53,340
But that's what that's what you 
show them by being that because 

2143
01:47:53,340 --> 01:47:55,900
there's no better way to teach 
your children than by being that

2144
01:47:56,300 --> 01:47:58,460
because they watch and they 
emulate everything. 

2145
01:47:58,460 --> 01:48:01,020
You know that, right? 
The kids watch and emulate 

2146
01:48:01,020 --> 01:48:06,900
everything you do and and so if 
you are someone who hasn't grown

2147
01:48:06,900 --> 01:48:10,060
up and your behavior is bad, 
well then that's what you're 

2148
01:48:10,060 --> 01:48:13,220
passing on to your kids. 
And that's the beauty of having 

2149
01:48:13,220 --> 01:48:18,460
children is it's it's nothing 
forces you into self examination

2150
01:48:18,900 --> 01:48:21,400
more deeply. 
Than the reflection of your 

2151
01:48:21,400 --> 01:48:25,200
children and especially when you
really care about that you know 

2152
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:26,440
there's a lot of desert like 
screwed. 

2153
01:48:26,440 --> 01:48:28,080
I am who I am. 
They're going to be who they are

2154
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,680
whatever. 
But it's like no, I I had a lot 

2155
01:48:30,680 --> 01:48:34,160
of stuff that I was determined 
to change with the middle 

2156
01:48:34,160 --> 01:48:37,240
lineage of my family. 
I come from a dysfunctional 

2157
01:48:37,240 --> 01:48:43,360
family and and there were a lot 
of behavior patterns that I was 

2158
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:47,600
committed to not instilling in 
my children and and I didn't 

2159
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:53,390
have an example. 
Of how to you know of of how to 

2160
01:48:53,390 --> 01:48:58,030
behave like a man. 
When I was growing up, raised by

2161
01:48:58,310 --> 01:49:00,310
a mom, two sisters and a gay 
brother. 

2162
01:49:00,990 --> 01:49:03,670
So I had a lot of feminine 
input, which I'm grateful for, 

2163
01:49:04,430 --> 01:49:07,750
but I had to learn how to become
my own man to learn what that is

2164
01:49:08,430 --> 01:49:13,350
and and so it's, you know, I 
made it this decision. 

2165
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:15,070
I'm like at this. 
I don't believe that this shit's

2166
01:49:15,070 --> 01:49:17,030
in my genes. 
I don't believe I have to pass 

2167
01:49:17,030 --> 01:49:19,830
this on. 
This is a behavioral, this is a 

2168
01:49:19,830 --> 01:49:22,270
pattern. 
This is a habit and habits are 

2169
01:49:22,270 --> 01:49:26,230
changeable. 
So let me change my habits and 

2170
01:49:26,230 --> 01:49:30,870
trust that in changing my habits
my sons won't pick up my bad 

2171
01:49:30,870 --> 01:49:34,310
habits. 
And the few that I I did have 

2172
01:49:34,310 --> 01:49:37,070
witnessed in them, I've 
consciously, they've shown me 

2173
01:49:37,070 --> 01:49:39,190
they've been that mirror for me 
to say. 

2174
01:49:39,190 --> 01:49:40,550
I wonder where they learn that 
one from. 

2175
01:49:40,550 --> 01:49:43,670
Uh oh, and then I'm like, okay, 
let me undo that. 

2176
01:49:43,790 --> 01:49:46,190
We can undo it. 
We can actually call it forth 

2177
01:49:46,190 --> 01:49:48,030
and say, you know that thing you
did. 

2178
01:49:48,480 --> 01:49:50,240
That's you actually got that 
from me. 

2179
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:51,920
I did. 
You did. 

2180
01:49:52,240 --> 01:49:55,640
I've been doing that my whole 
life, and you helped me see it. 

2181
01:49:56,000 --> 01:49:59,680
Thank you. 
Let's change it together, You 

2182
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:04,160
think a lot of parents do that? 
I I I just hope a lot more do. 

2183
01:50:04,160 --> 01:50:06,680
I don't know how many do there's
a lot of wonderful parents out 

2184
01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,120
there. 
But I I I don't think enough 

2185
01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:17,400
take parenting on as mentor as 
as they do it as authority. 

2186
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:21,680
And that's can be detrimental 
because again, you don't want 

2187
01:50:21,680 --> 01:50:24,200
your child just bowing to 
authority. 

2188
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,720
You want to take it on in the 
like I was married once before 

2189
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:32,480
my my current marriage. 
And and it was interesting. 

2190
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:34,960
We kind of fell into a pattern 
of kind of competing against 

2191
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,360
each other. 
Well you did this. 

2192
01:50:37,360 --> 01:50:39,040
Well, I did that while you did 
that for, you know, it's this 

2193
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:43,120
whole thing like, and there's 
scripture about this, you know? 

2194
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,320
Yeah, the house divided will not
stand. 

2195
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:47,430
That's right. 
When I got there's a lot of 

2196
01:50:47,430 --> 01:50:51,070
truisms in there, a lot of it. 
When I got in this, my current 

2197
01:50:51,070 --> 01:50:57,590
marriage, I learned from my 
first marriage and I said one 

2198
01:50:57,590 --> 01:51:01,150
thing and I just my wife is just
just an extraordinary human 

2199
01:51:01,150 --> 01:51:03,710
being, so it makes it easier. 
She's taught me a lot. 

2200
01:51:04,670 --> 01:51:07,190
But I said, let's never forget 
that we're on the same team 

2201
01:51:09,070 --> 01:51:13,040
above all because. 
When I tell you something that 

2202
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:15,720
might sound like criticism, when
you tell me something that might

2203
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:19,000
sound like criticism, if we can 
just remember it's because you 

2204
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:22,160
love me. 
And it's not because you're not 

2205
01:51:22,160 --> 01:51:25,200
happy with me, but it's because 
you see something that I can't 

2206
01:51:25,200 --> 01:51:29,120
see or I see something that 
maybe you can't see. 

2207
01:51:29,120 --> 01:51:34,600
That more effective way of 
behaving in our lives that might

2208
01:51:35,280 --> 01:51:38,360
and might actually serve us. 
We want the best for each other.

2209
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We're not trying to. 
When I don't want to win above 

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you, I'm not competing against 
you. 

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I want us to win. 
You know, it's a it's it's a 

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cooperative sport we're playing.
It's not a competitive sport. 

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And if we can just remember 
that, then when that stuff comes

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up that wouldn't that could be 
offensive. 

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If we can just remember she's 
only saying this because she 

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wants her lives to work, and 
that thing I do, that habit I do

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isn't the most optimal way to 
live. 

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You know, and it might be, you 
know, like, I think the last 

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thing I brought up to my wife 
was, I'm like, do you notice the

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01:52:13,010 --> 01:52:20,610
pattern in our life where we 
clean up the whole house, get 

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everything, We go through a 
whole weekend of just making 

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01:52:23,130 --> 01:52:26,250
everything clean, and then 
everything piles up and 

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01:52:26,250 --> 01:52:29,250
everything piles up, and then 
four weeks later, let's go 

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through the holes cleaning 
again. 

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And I said, wouldn't it be 
better if we just kind of 

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cleaned up every day a little 
bit? 

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Instead of the taking the whole 
weekend out once or every month 

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or three. 
And can we see how this actually

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reflects on our lives, right. 
Our taxes get all behind and 

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01:52:45,420 --> 01:52:47,860
then we spend a month trying to 
get all our taxes paid and 

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caught up and everything falls 
behind. 

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Again, I said you see this is 
kind of a pattern. 

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How you do one thing is how you 
do a lot of things. 

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This is a pattern in our lives 
And you know, are we willing to 

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01:53:01,420 --> 01:53:02,940
try something new? 
And that is. 

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Just like, set some rules and 
and and stick to them. 

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You know, like if we say we have
a shoe closet. 

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Every time you take off your 
shoes, put them in the damn 

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closet. 
All of us. 

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Otherwise one pair gets left out
and someone goes, oh, that's a 

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good spot for today. 
Suddenly there's eight pair of 

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01:53:18,930 --> 01:53:21,730
shoes sitting there by the front
door that we trip over. 

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Like, do do we recognize that? 
That might seem like a mundane, 

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01:53:26,690 --> 01:53:29,570
meaningless little thing, but do
we understand that by being 

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01:53:29,570 --> 01:53:32,570
aware of that pattern? 
That larger patterns in our life

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get taken care of the more we 
are efficient with each little 

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01:53:36,930 --> 01:53:38,570
choice we make and our daily 
duties. 

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And you know, those 
conversations we can have as a 

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01:53:42,490 --> 01:53:47,410
team to to optimize the 
experience of our lives. 

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And if more couples worked 
together that way, instead of 

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just feeling like we're. 
I'm just going to criticize you.

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Stop doing this and stop doing 
that. 

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01:53:58,590 --> 01:54:00,910
But again, you know, the same 
way I mentioned the beginning, 

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this is to teach, to work with 
each other, even as couples 

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through what we want 
collectively, what we want 

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01:54:08,190 --> 01:54:11,110
instead of what I want. 
I want you to be this way. 

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01:54:11,670 --> 01:54:15,550
But look, if you're that way, it
creates this circumstance and it

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01:54:15,550 --> 01:54:17,910
moves us further away from our 
goal, which is being in love and

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01:54:17,910 --> 01:54:21,990
continuing to fall in love and 
and and you know it's, we've 

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01:54:21,990 --> 01:54:24,830
been here 20 years and you know 
it's. 

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01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:30,680
When I leave, and I'll be, you 
know, leaving Saturday for event

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01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,440
and I guarantee you before I 
catch the plane, I'll be texting

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01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:36,160
her to tell her how much I miss 
her, you know? 

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01:54:36,240 --> 01:54:39,040
And I never knew how that that 
was possible because my 

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01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,880
experience of relationships 
growing up was they're really 

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01:54:41,880 --> 01:54:43,920
exciting for a few months and 
then they get old. 

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01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:48,280
I had never knew it was possible
because I never saw my mom in a 

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01:54:48,280 --> 01:54:51,320
real relationship. 
I didn't know it was possible to

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01:54:51,320 --> 01:54:56,380
continue to fall in love. 
Ladies and gentlemen, you've 

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01:54:56,380 --> 01:54:59,420
been watching the Kyle Seraphin 
Show generally streamed live 

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01:54:59,420 --> 01:55:01,460
from Liberty Hill, TX. 
Although today we are doing a 

2272
01:55:01,460 --> 01:55:04,620
tape delay and you have been 
watching an interview with my 

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01:55:04,620 --> 01:55:07,020
new friend Mickey Willis. 
I hope you really enjoyed that. 

2274
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:09,660
I really did as well. 
There is a Part 2 and it will be

2275
01:55:09,660 --> 01:55:12,460
tomorrow, so TuneIn tomorrow to 
hear that. 

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01:55:12,460 --> 01:55:16,020
Before we go, we want to say 
thank you to all of you for 

2277
01:55:16,020 --> 01:55:17,380
watching. 
Please make sure that you hit 

2278
01:55:17,380 --> 01:55:18,860
the light down there on the 
Rumble channel. 

2279
01:55:18,860 --> 01:55:23,580
You can always follow us stream 
liverumble.com/kyle Seraphin. 

2280
01:55:23,700 --> 01:55:25,940
We'll read you a five star 
review when we get back on the 

2281
01:55:25,940 --> 01:55:27,340
air and we are doing them again 
live. 

2282
01:55:27,340 --> 01:55:30,740
I do want to say thank you to my
producer, Ryan Matta. 

2283
01:55:30,740 --> 01:55:36,140
You can follow him on Twitter at
Ryan Matta Media MATTA and you 

2284
01:55:36,140 --> 01:55:39,340
can find his show on Rumble at 
LFATV. 

2285
01:55:39,340 --> 01:55:41,020
He does the show called Matter 
of Fact. 

2286
01:55:41,020 --> 01:55:43,580
Please check him out and we're 
really appreciative that he was 

2287
01:55:43,580 --> 01:55:45,940
able to do this. 
I also want to say a big thank 

2288
01:55:45,940 --> 01:55:48,900
you to my guest Mickey Willis. 
Here he is right there. 

2289
01:55:48,900 --> 01:55:53,340
You can follow him before the 
next episode at Mickey Willis, 

2290
01:55:53,420 --> 01:56:00,560
MIKKIWILLIS, Mickey Willis, and 
you can also see him on his 

2291
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:04,800
channel over here, which is 
Plandemic 3 movie. 

2292
01:56:04,800 --> 01:56:08,920
At Plandemic 3 movie you can 
find that on Twitter and you can

2293
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:10,600
follow them. 
There are plenty of little cuts 

2294
01:56:10,600 --> 01:56:13,520
there if you want to get a taste
of it and go watch Plandemic 3, 

2295
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:15,320
The Awakening, The Great 
Awakening. 

2296
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:18,520
We don't cover it nearly as much
as we could in this entire 

2297
01:56:18,520 --> 01:56:20,960
interview because we got so 
distracted with things about 

2298
01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:22,950
life, things that are true about
all of us. 

2299
01:56:23,150 --> 01:56:25,630
But I think that is Mickey's 
superpower. 

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01:56:25,630 --> 01:56:28,270
That is his talent. 
So please tune in again tomorrow

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01:56:28,270 --> 01:56:30,510
to see the second-half of this 
interview and we really 

2302
01:56:30,510 --> 01:56:32,590
appreciate you guys. 
We will see you soon. 

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01:56:32,750 --> 01:56:36,070
Have a great rest of your day. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

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01:56:36,070 --> 01:56:40,030
Seraphin Show streamed live 
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2305
01:56:40,030 --> 01:56:42,310
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