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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serif. 
Well, hello my friends, and 

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welcome to the Kyle Seraphin 
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Today is Tuesday. 
It is January the 30th, coming 

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to the end of this month, and 
what a way to end it. 

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We're going to be bringing on a 
friend of this program, a friend

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of this country, and a man who 
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who looked down the barrel of 
the justice system, was offered 

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a deal to get out of whatever 
punishment might be coming his 

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way. 
And he said, Nope, I'm not 

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guilty and trusted both in God 
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Something that's kind of 
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having a lot of faith in our 
judicial system. 

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That's why we kind of trust in 
God and not in man. 

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Anyhow, we're going to be 
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shortly. 
You guys are going to really 

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enjoy this interview. 
I think you were going to learn 

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something. 
I every time I speak to Mark, 

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I've learned just a little bit 
and very much. 

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Looking forward to that and 
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Ladies and gentlemen, I think 
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enjoy this. 
I've been looking forward to it,

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mostly because I'm holding on to
his award. 

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It's sitting on my desk. 
We're going to bring on my 

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Catholic Hero of the Year 2023 
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And we're going to have a little
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Congress. 
We're going to talk about who he

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is. 
If you missed our previous 

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Don't fear. 
And here he is, the man, the 

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myth, the legend. 
Mark out. 

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Welcome to the Kyle Seraphin 
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Hey, Kyle, it's good to be back 
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I am looking forward to this 
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got your trophy right here 
buddy. 

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So they they sent me this thing 
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it says Kyle. 
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you're in Texas, it's yours. 
Look, I'll tell you, we beat 

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Lila Rose in the semi finals. 
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That was enough for me. 
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you the the final victory there.
I had a tougher bracket up front

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because I was going against a 
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Not that he did something so 
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But lap against Lyle Rose, that 
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I thought she was going to wipe 
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But at that point I that was 
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I my people were exhausted after
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I thinking, you know, no, you 
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You deserve it. 
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I think it was it was always 
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what what you did was a bigger 
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people at Catholic vote you. 
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First of all, I credit my wife 
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wife. 
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well, if you don't have somebody
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to happen. 
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thing when you need to do it, 
it's very hard to be a man 

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standing alone, especially if 
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But you know, we lost the house,
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Those are all replaceable pretty
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What you were looking down the 
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because you were looking at 
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up against what we know is a 
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way scarier to me. 
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my audience. 
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I'm a little disappointed in 
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But that being said, why don't 
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about what that looked like? 
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your name. 
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Sure. 
So you know we're we're coming 

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upon the anniversary of the 
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So this is the week I was in 
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Last year. 
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jury of my peers. 
Suppose the jury of my peers in 

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Philadelphia, facing 11 years in
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three years supervised probation
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that does not lose at the 
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rate. 
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go to prison for the life of 
freeborn children and and the 

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pro-life movement. 
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a decision that would be my 
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my life and the government gave 
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all dates where we can walk 
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We could walk away and you know 
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and be safe and and and not have
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I I can't do that. 
I can't let down fellow 

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Americans, fellow First 
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lifers, all the things that this
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kind of in Japan. 
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We can't abandoned ship. 
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like you said, my wife was fully
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do what you have to do. 
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And she said if you're going to 
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bother coming home brother. 
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So she empowered me. 
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said we're all in. 
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at this time last year. 
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jury to deliberate, but it was a
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decision had to be that way. 
Otherwise we we would had a hung

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If I took that plea deal, as you
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would have put me away even 
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So that's kind of a catch 22 
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And sounds like a good deal. 
But in reality they're going to 

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keep you on their watch list. 
They're going to come after you 

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again. 
And then Gus, if I'm going to 

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keep fighting the the good 
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myself in the crosshairs. 
If the Biden administration gets

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re elected, you know they're 
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pro-life 1st and 1st amendment 
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So we said we got to do this. 
We got to get case law on the 

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books. 
We got it. 

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Help versus the United States of
America is now case law. 

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We can use it to protect 
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America. 
And you know, that was huge. 

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And then this year that we've 
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needed to take the fight to the 
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and in November of this year for
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everything they did the the 
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Pennsylvania, Philadelphia and 
all that was involved there, 

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that that put me in an 
indictment. 

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So that is a a big deal and 
we're going to hold the 

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government accountable for the 
good of America. 

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What did that deal look like 
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you and you know, you said that 
your your wife was behind you. 

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You didn't have to ever consider
taking it, but what did it look 

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like and and how tempting it 
might have been to someone else?

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Extremely tempting. 
In fact, my own lawyers told me 

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to take it. 
It's that it was that sweetheart

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of a deal. 
It was no time. 

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I wasn't going to go to prison. 
It was no fine. 

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I was facing $350,000 in fines, 
11 years in prison, and the 

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probation was zero to six 
months. 

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So I was facing three years 
supervised probation. 

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So essentially no time, no fine,
no probation, just plead guilty 

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to the assault charge. 
And I said, well, I'm innocent 

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and I'm, I'm not guilty of this.
I'm not going to say I'm guilty 

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when I'm not guilty. 
But I'll tell you, it's one of 

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those deals that the government 
was shocked that we didn't take 

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because everybody takes that 
deal because that's the deal you

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want. 
You want to get out of jail free

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and you want to go back to your 
life. 

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And you know what we said? 
You know what? 

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We're in this because, you know,
we know that following Christ, 

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and this is, I'm a believer, 
right? 

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I'm a, I'm a faithful man that, 
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persecuted when you follow 
Jesus, right. 

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So to me, it wasn't a shock and 
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somewhat rejoice a little bit in
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him. 
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not that I'm going to be happy 
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of like spiritual joy that I 
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be suffering for Christ in a 
similar way as Saint Paul, Saint

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Thomas, you know, St. 
Titus today, Saint Timothy, the 

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feast day where this interview, 
you know, Saint Peter, like 

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these are guys that that are my 
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So, you know, if I can walk that
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of that in solidarity, You know,
I I was going to embrace that. 

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Again, I didn't want that, but I
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and that God would take care of.
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introduced to the concept and 
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started getting into the space 
about white martyrdom versus red

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martyrdom. 
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really important concept that 
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traction. 
People haven't seen it, but now 

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they're starting to understand 
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last couple years. 
Do you want to talk about the 

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distinction there And and you 
know if you're not going to be a

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white martyr, you're sure as 
heck not going to be a red 

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martyr, right. 
And maybe we can kind of break 

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that down for people and it's 
the small steps that kind of win

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these little victories. 
Well, that's for sure. 

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The white martyrdom is, is, is 
dying to self. 

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And and that can be done every 
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You know, in your marriage as a 
family man, as an employee, you 

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die to what you want, right? 
So there's this degree of just 

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white martyrdom that that comes 
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life and offering up uniting our
suffering with Christ. 

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But in a in a more specific way,
white martyrdom comes when 

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you're persecuted, you know, 
unjustly. 

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That's, that's really what we're
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When you're being calumniated, 
which is a big word, which means

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when people lie about you to 
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when you're unjustly persecuted 
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And now they say that martyrdom,
the grace of martyrdom comes 

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when the moment of martyrdom 
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You know that you'll be, God 
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especially for the red Marta. 
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working towards that every day 
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In other words, you just can't 
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Oh yeah, God will give me the 
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you know, whether red or white. 
That's not true. 

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You, you have to be saying yes 
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For 20 years I was saying yes. 
That's so when the FBI banged on

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my door, that was a white martyr
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red martyr moment, frankly. 
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door, I was able to say yes to 
what that invitation was and not

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freak out and not be angry, but 
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calm that says, OK, you know, 
I'm here if you want to take me,

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take me, in other words, this 
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opportunity to become more like 
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Saints. 
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definitely a an interesting 
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different than daily self 
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It's it's I'm choosing to suffer
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And that way I if I went to 
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my choice. 
And that that plea deal was a 

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way to avoid that white 
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Look, anything could have 
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If I had a, if I had a gun, if I
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my kids had an airsoft gun, if 
as I would have come to the door

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with something like that, 
knowing an intruder is there who

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did not announce themselves, 
Yeah, I would have been shot and

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then they'd be, they would be 
saying I was a a red martyr. 

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But you know what? 
That didn't happen by the grace 

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of God. 
And, you know, we didn't have to

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suffer that. 
But you know that I'm not saying

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that that's not in my future 
either, right? 

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I mean, that could be in all of 
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As Bishop Strickland said, we 
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Christians in the 21st century. 
So we better be preparing 

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ourselves for these persecutions
because it's coming and more of 

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it's coming, you know, and 
especially in this election 

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cycle, if we continue to choose 
what we're choosing, more of 

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this persecution is coming. 
Let's talk about that day. 

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Many people have seen the movie 
police state, especially my 

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audience is probably familiar 
with it. 

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So Dinesh D'souza made a movie 
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historical context where they 
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does this burgeoning police 
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living through look like? 
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Muslims that basically face the 
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government. 
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about how it moved on to 
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included everyday conservatives.
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seat of what it looks like when 
the police state comes and bangs

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on your door and you got an 
opportunity to have that trauma 

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which it is traumatic. 
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that every day. 
Because when I, I have to 

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imagine that when the door 
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morning or if somebody comes to 
drop the parcel off or something

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or the ring doorbell goes off, 
there's always going to be that 

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little tinge because you've 
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So let's let's take people 
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And then maybe, even if you 
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fact that you had already had 
this thing come up and it looked

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like it was already settled at 
the state level where this 

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should have been in the 1st 
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Let's kind of give people why 
you had the Maybe you were 

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lulled into some belief that 
this was all over when it 

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wasn't. 
Yeah, April 22nd, everything was

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dismissed at the state level. 
In fact, they didn't even show 

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up for court after four or five 
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to some sort of private criminal
complaint conclusion. 

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So five days later, I'm served a
target letter. 

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So This is why, you know, the 
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this case because five days 
later I'm served a potential 

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indictment target letter saying 
I'm of a target of a federal 

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grand jury investigation under 
the FACE Act for two FACE Act 

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violations. 
So in that regard, you, you see 

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it and that's there. 
And you have your attorneys 

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contact and we contacted the 
Eastern District in 

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Pennsylvania, the FBI, Justice 
Department and said, you know, 

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we will come in, we're peaceful.
Just call us, we will come to 

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you. 
So that was our plan all along. 

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If you're going to indict us, 
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Don't. 
No need to bring an agent out to

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his house. 
These are the words of my 

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attorney. 
No need to bring an agent out to

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his house. 
So Fast forward to September. 

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We had the Dobbs decision in 
June. 

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This is April 22 when I got my 
indictment target letter. 

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Then the Dobbs decision, then 
pro lifer start getting 

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arrested, Mar a Lago happens and
then we're in August and my 

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attorney contacts me of 2022 and
says have you heard from the 

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assistant assistant US attorney?
And I said, well no, why would I

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have heard from her? 
He said, well, she's not 

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returning my phone calls. 
So basically we're thinking it's

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a done case, it's over. 
They're not interested anymore. 

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There's no case here. 
There's case law on their own 

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district against indicting me. 
So we're moving forward. 

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So when the bank comes on the 
door on September 23rd, I am not

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expecting FBII wasn't thinking 
target letter. 

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I was totally shocked that they 
were there. 

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And so to your question, to your
point about the trauma of that 

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day, we still live that to this 
day because all nine of us have 

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PTSD. 
And that's that's not a 

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diagnosis. 
We know it because when 

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unannounced people come on our 
property, there's an alarm and 

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an internal alarm that we're all
feeling, especially when it's a 

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police officer that might be 
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They banged on the door and 
didn't announce themselves. 

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When we were doing some campaign
videos, which we'll get into my 

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campaign production, people had 
like simulated red, blue and 

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white lights. 
My wife says you got to turn 

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those off. 
We are all freaking out in this 

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house. 
So you know that the trauma was 

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pretty darn severe. 
My wife had a panic attack when 

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a priest came onto the property 
unannounced. 

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She didn't know it was a priest.
She had a panic attack. 

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M16 guns greeted my children as 
they came down the stairs and 

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when the FBI put their M 
sixteens in the threshold of my 

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home, a little 4 year old, 6 
year old seeing on the barrel of

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a gun pointed at them after they
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rest. 
I mean I don't know the long 

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term damage or something like 
that, but that's got to be 

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pretty darn significant and and 
frankly we're monitoring that 

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every single day. 
So the audience needs to know 

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that you know, we are still 
affected by this even though you

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know, one was hurt that day 
miraculously. 

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So there are long term effects 
that when a assistant US 

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attorney or Kristen Clark at the
Justice Department says let's go

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indict this guy, let's get the 
arrest warrant signed, they're 

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not thinking about how this 
arrest is going to affect the 

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people for the rest of their 
lives. 

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If they would have just said, 
hey, this might be better to 

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bring this guy in on his own 
recognizance and spare his 

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children. 
They're not thinking about the 

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long term effects of these 
children and how they're going 

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to deal with this trauma. 
And in fact I had a a lawyer 

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confirm that with me that my 
story in sharing my story said, 

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you know what, we don't even 
think about this when we sign 

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these papers to to for these 
arrest warrants. 

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We don't think how these 
children and these people are 

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going to be affected for the 
rest of their lives. 

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It's just one day for us. 
Yeah, it's business as usual and

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I've been on that side and I'm 
and I'm kind of hopefully not 

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going to experience the the 
other side of it, but there's 

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always that possibility. 
But you know, you just don't 

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know what. 
Here's something that that I 

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think that people need to grasp.
You're talking about a four year

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old looking at the barrel of a 
gun. 

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I know that you got good people.
You're not in trouble with any 

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law. 
Cops are your friends. 

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That's what you're teaching your
children. 

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We teach the kids the same 
thing, right? 

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When I was a little kid, I grew 
up in the 80s and it's like if 

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anything bad ever happens, you 
get lost at the mall. 

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Where do you go? 
You go find a police officer, 

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that person's going to help you.
And now what we've done is we've

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done this 180° reversal. 
We're now we're looking at that 

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law enforcement officer who's 
supposed to be the good guy. 

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In our mind, the way we teach 
our kids, they are now a 

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potential threat. 
And that's what, to me, the word

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I always use is betrayal. 
It's when you have because 

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because nobody can betray you if
you don't trust them to begin 

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with, right. 
And so when you're dealing with 

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that, with your family, betrayal
looks like this is an 

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institution, an organization, 
law enforcement in general, that

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we would otherwise want to be 
able to say, yes, we trust. 

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And now your wife has anxiety 
attacks and panic attacks when 

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she sees the lights that 
indicate law enforcement is 

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there. 
That's right. 

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How, how else do you even 
quantify that and and how do you

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even move forward with it 
particularly when you already 

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knew that the state level which 
was can you talk about the 

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political environment where you 
live and whether or not we think

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that was was going to be a like 
a real right wing kind of group 

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that was looking at indicting 
you there for the state level 

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charges? 
Look, yeah, I mean this is part 

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of the prosecutorial misconduct 
complaint that we filed and 

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there are so many parties and 
levels to this, not only the 

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sheriff in my county, not only 
the the governor of Pennsylvania

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who had to approve the the, the 
state troopers being used. 

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But to your point, the trust 
like, yeah, I mean the children 

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see a police officer and and 
they're reticent just by virtue 

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of what happened to them and and
that's not good. 

448
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,960
And we have told them that, you 
know most of these guys are good

449
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:45,080
people but we do tell them just 
like the Nazis just like the the

450
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,720
the people who work the 
concentration camps. 

451
00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,520
You know, they had a choice to 
make. 

452
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,520
You know just following orders 
is not acceptable. 

453
00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:58,840
You know this is not acceptable 
and This is why the complaint is

454
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:04,480
so necessary and that the the 
it's so egregious that we have 

455
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,520
to move forward in filing and we
will file again in April, Kyle, 

456
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:12,720
you know a punitive damage suit 
against the Justice Department 

457
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,680
because the government needs to 
be punished. 

458
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:21,120
A11 time gross negligence kind 
of thing is not enough. 

459
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,320
You have to punish them. 
You need a jury to say the 

460
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,480
government needs to be punished 
for what they did. 

461
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,080
And so the players that be are 
many. 

462
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,520
All of those agents are listed 
on that complaint that were 

463
00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,480
there that day. 
Christian Clark is on that list.

464
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,360
You know, the the people, the 
sheriff, these people, they're 

465
00:22:39,360 --> 00:22:43,240
all on the list because all need
to be held accountable because 

466
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,840
you can't just say, well, I was 
just following orders, that's 

467
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,920
not right. 
Those, all of those agents had a

468
00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,200
choice that day. 
And the state troopers who were 

469
00:22:51,360 --> 00:22:55,000
invited to be on that rate, they
all had a choice to make that 

470
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,200
day. 
And I think you know, sadly, 

471
00:22:57,240 --> 00:22:58,840
most of them made the wrong 
choice. 

472
00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,880
It's it's really important that 
we don't take away the agency 

473
00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:03,760
that those people had in making 
that decision. 

474
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,520
I I hear that just following 
orders routine or there's good 

475
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,360
people on the front lines and 
your your example is such a 

476
00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:14,360
great it's such a great reminder
to people you had agents who 

477
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,800
were just like me who just had 
the same training as me. 

478
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:19,240
They're in the same age bracket 
as me that knew what right and 

479
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:20,800
wrong was in theory. 
And they were, you know, they 

480
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,840
had a good background where they
could pass the security 

481
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,320
background check and they had 
top secret clearances like like 

482
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,080
I did. 
And then the real question is 

483
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:30,040
this, someone's going to come 
and have you do something on one

484
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:31,840
day. 
And if you're not willing to 

485
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,680
throw it all away, that's why we
created this brand. 

486
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:35,600
In fact, that's what this means,
that the suspendables brand, 

487
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,880
which we've given you one of the
pins and I got another one for 

488
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,640
you now, I've actually got a 
limited edition one that you 

489
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:41,920
can't buy, you can only earn. 
And you guys definitely earned 

490
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,800
it. 
So you let me know how many you 

491
00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,200
want for the family and I'll 
send them out to you. 

492
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,400
But you can only do that when 
you know that you're going to 

493
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,880
basically take that job knowing 
that you could lose that job any

494
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,120
day for the right reason and the
right reason, as you told me, to

495
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,800
do something illegal, immoral or
unethical. 

496
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,600
And I'm not going to do it. 
And as you mentioned every 

497
00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:58,640
single one of those agents and 
the prosecutors and all the 

498
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,000
people that Co signed on this, I
keep calling them good 

499
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,200
Americans, you know, and it's so
sad that you and I have both 

500
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,760
come to this. 
We we never talked about this 

501
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,800
before and we we independently 
realized this is what the Nazis 

502
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:13,200
were able to exploit that 
comfort, that addiction to 

503
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,600
comfort to just do what's easy 
and worldly, you know. 

504
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,640
And that's why every single 
person that wears this badge is 

505
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,360
a Christian. 
Every single one of them is 

506
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,160
without fail. 
And I mean, I'm curious if you 

507
00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,640
have any thoughts on if that 
preparation, if that's the only 

508
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,640
thing or is there more to it? 
Is there an American piece to 

509
00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,240
it, or is it literally just that
Christian belief that allows 

510
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:32,600
people to do the right thing 
when it comes up? 

511
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,280
Look, you bring up some 
important realities, and then 

512
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,160
you think of people who are 
serving our country. 

513
00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,680
In the military, you know you 
have a duty to follow the orders

514
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,520
that you're given. 
However, when it's an unethical,

515
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:49,680
immoral order, you have a duty, 
a sacred duty to reject it. 

516
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:55,040
Now if you are forced to carry 
forward and someone makes you do

517
00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:59,040
that order, that becomes a moral
injury right? 

518
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,760
And that is hard to process and 
deal with. 

519
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:08,600
We need people of integrity like
you and have the courage to say 

520
00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:11,920
no when this comes. 
We know people that were state 

521
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,120
troopers that were invited to 
that raid that day who said I'm 

522
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:18,600
not doing that, that's not 
right, I'm not doing that. 

523
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,680
Thanks to be to God. 
They had that courage. 

524
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:26,160
So yes, these folks that that 
are engaged in this, I I think 

525
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:31,120
if they're not a believer or 
someone, a person of faith, it 

526
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:34,680
would probably be hard to come 
to that conclusion. 

527
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:39,480
Not because faith gives us, you 
know, the exact answers all the 

528
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,760
time. 
However, it is an objective 

529
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,680
truth that you know when we deal
with God and people and loving 

530
00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:50,040
our neighbor that we do that 
checklist. 

531
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:54,280
If I'm just an agnostic guy or 
someone who's not really, you 

532
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,040
know, walking the walk, I get an
order. 

533
00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,360
It's just a job. 
I'm just doing my job and I 

534
00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:04,200
think you know people like you 
who have a conscience, a well 

535
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,240
formed conscience, not a 
malformed conscience. 

536
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,760
Sadly we have many today that 
just you know, faith is not that

537
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,440
important to them. 
And I think you know our country

538
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,480
was founded on faith. 
We need people. 

539
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,520
We need our leaders to be you 
know walking the walk and and 

540
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,480
from the White House Down we we 
we see people who it's a nominal

541
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:27,960
thing for them. 
It's not anything that actually 

542
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,800
influences their life. 
It is just there as as just an 

543
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:34,960
add on what. 
Do you think about this recent 

544
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:36,760
push? 
There's a Rob Reiner movie 

545
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,040
that's out there and they're 
pushing against the concept of 

546
00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,840
Christian nationalism. 
You just talked about our 

547
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:42,320
founding being, you know, 
Christian people. 

548
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,720
That's what that's that's who 
came here. 

549
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,720
They came for that freedom. 
Whether, you know, the fact that

550
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:48,800
they were Protestants and they 
just were waiting to become 

551
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:50,640
Catholics later on, later, 
that's a different animal, 

552
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,200
right? 
But they came here and they 

553
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,840
founded this nation for 
religious freedom and then we 

554
00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,000
want to just rewrite history. 
What do you think that plays 

555
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,200
into the sort of embrace of 
moral relativism, which is what 

556
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,880
I kind of see this, this is like
a an outgrowth of the 80s and 

557
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,200
the 90s where people just kind 
of said, yeah, let's just, you 

558
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,760
know, it's right for me. 
I'm spiritual, but I'm not 

559
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,120
religious. 
That kind of movement, which I 

560
00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:12,080
just talked about earlier, 
thoughts on that and and kind of

561
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,480
the effect that it has on our 
politics. 

562
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,400
Sure. 
Ethical realism is is been 

563
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,160
around, as you said for since 
the 80s and even beyond that. 

564
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,960
So yeah, what's right for me is 
right for me and who am I to 

565
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:27,080
judge and all this stuff. 
So look, it plays a huge role in

566
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:30,000
all of this. 
If you don't stand for anything,

567
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,080
you'll fall for anything, right.
You know, So, you know, we, we, 

568
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,880
we recognize that the culture in
the schools, we took God out of 

569
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,440
the schools. 
We took prayer out of the 

570
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:45,640
schools and and and this was the
beginning so we're going way 

571
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,800
back and then and then we you 
know we be continue continue to 

572
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,760
Rd. faith this Christian notion 
of Christian nationalist. 

573
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,560
That's what I am right. 
That's what you are. 

574
00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:03,120
This is the way to to really 
attack, you know, not activists,

575
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,280
but to really go after people of
faith, to go after and identify 

576
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,360
them. 
And this is really, really where

577
00:28:11,360 --> 00:28:15,160
the rubber hits the road now. 
We've established that the last 

578
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:20,200
bigotry, the last bias in our in
our world is against Christians,

579
00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,760
Catholics in a in a particular 
way as part of that Christian 

580
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,920
family. 
So this is the last acceptable 

581
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,760
bias and it it from the top 
down. 

582
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:34,200
Again we now see that Christian 
nationalists like you and I are 

583
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040
domestic terrorists, right. 
This is this is in your memo 

584
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,400
that you you essentially 
exposed. 

585
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,480
So let's. 
Here, we don't want to take 

586
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,360
credit for that memo. 
All we did was expose it. 

587
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,240
Zero of the year. 
Oh my God, so, so, but, but 

588
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,680
let's kind of dig in. 
I see a broader plot here. 

589
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,120
And and perhaps you do as well, 
the way that came after you that

590
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,760
the that the FBI came after you.
You gave me the opportunity. 

591
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,400
You said, look I'm. 
I'm willing to turn myself in if

592
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,240
this is a real issue. 
Like I'll, I'll come and present

593
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:02,840
myself. 
We refer to that as a summons in

594
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,880
the law enforcement world. 
So a summons is mark out. 

595
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,200
You must present yourself on 
this day to the court at this 

596
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,760
time and we'll see you then. 
And if you don't, then we're 

597
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,760
going to end up having an arrest
warrant and you probably end up 

598
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:14,520
as a fugitive from justice. 
They'll come find you. 

599
00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:16,720
But they didn't give you that 
opportunity. 

600
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,640
My understanding is did they 
file a criminal complaint first?

601
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:21,120
Was that the first move they did
with you? 

602
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,640
Are you? 
Are you aware a private criminal

603
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,640
complaint was done by the man 
who I had the original incident 

604
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,560
with? 
He did his own criminal 

605
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,640
complaint, Sure. 
The government did not file a 

606
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,480
criminal complaint against me. 
He did and that put me into the 

607
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,720
the state court system in 
Philadelphia and and that was to

608
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,400
be mediated and ultimately was 
dismissed. 

609
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,200
So there was never a verdict, 
there was never a a ruling. 

610
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,880
It was just a dismissal, which I
think opened the door for the 

611
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,600
federal government to indict 
because I think I could be 

612
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,080
wrong. 
If there was a ruling then there

613
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,800
might be this double jeopardy 
thing going on so. 

614
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200
One of the ways that they've 
been doing a lot of this stuff 

615
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,920
where they go if they went and 
got an indictment and they got 

616
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,560
an arrest warrant out of that, 
there's something truly 

617
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:10,440
troubling about the way that 
means that grand jury was able 

618
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,320
to end that judge in particular 
was allowing it because 

619
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,840
generally speaking, they would 
say, oh, well, you've already 

620
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,920
been in contact with the 
attorney. 

621
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:17,640
This has already been handled at
a state level. 

622
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,080
Why don't you issue in a 
summons? 

623
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,920
That would be like, why do you 
need an arrest warrant? 

624
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,360
So generally speaking, that 
becomes really problematic. 

625
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,280
And I may do a little deeper 
research on this to find out if 

626
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,760
we can find it. 
And if so, we'll add it in post.

627
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,560
No big deal. 
But the way that they basically 

628
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:31,960
did your case and the fact that 
they decided to come and make 

629
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:35,680
what we call the process, the 
punishment you guys want to you 

630
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,720
want to kind of reflect on, you 
know, it's not just punishment 

631
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,400
against you and maybe how you 
represent sort of as a 

632
00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,920
figurehead to to others. 
So other people might be warned 

633
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,000
about that behavior that you 
were engaged in? 

634
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,360
Yeah, you know, I've used that 
term. 

635
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,640
I've heard Steve friends say 
that as well. 

636
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:55,000
And and I use it because I I see
it. 

637
00:30:55,000 --> 00:31:01,480
I see that the way they treated 
me and and the way that it all 

638
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,240
went down in light of my former 
federal prosecutor who knows the

639
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:12,560
routine, knows how this is done,
my own judge said that the the 

640
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,200
grand jury was a collection of 
hearsay. 

641
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
It it doesn't have to be 
factual. 

642
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,640
You just kind of find people 
that are going to say the right 

643
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,000
things to get the indictment. 
So, you know, this collection of

644
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
hearsay, we're bringing people 
into a room. 

645
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,640
We're going to say, yeah, this 
guy's a bad actor. 

646
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,080
Yeah, this guy has a reputation 
for this. 

647
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:34,320
Look, I was a target and have 
been a target for a number of 

648
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:38,640
years, not necessarily from the 
federal government, but from a 

649
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,920
local standpoint with Planned 
Parenthood. 

650
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:49,960
So Dobbs is overturned and now 
we have a weaponized government.

651
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:53,880
We have President Joe Biden 
giving the marching orders to 

652
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Merrick Garland down to Kristen 
Clark, to all of you guys at the

653
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,520
East, at the at the regional 
level to now go after domestic 

654
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,440
terrorists, enemies of the 
state, people of faith, people 

655
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:09,120
like me and and people who are 
activists, people who are 

656
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,360
effective at what they do. 
They didn't care about a 

657
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,160
conviction. 
I don't believe that they wanted

658
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,680
to punish me, humiliate me and 
make me scared. 

659
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,520
And you know, frankly, my 
children were scared, but, you 

660
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,600
know, my wife was scared. 
But frankly, I I think it 

661
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,440
backfired on them when it comes 
to me because I recognize it as 

662
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,480
a gift. 
When I was sitting in that 

663
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,840
holding facility in the federal 
building in Philadelphia, 100 

664
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,800
yards from Independence Hall, 
chained to a table, belly 

665
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:42,600
shackled, ankle shackled, when 
I'm in their custody, I 

666
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,320
rejoiced. 
I saw it as a gift. 

667
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,000
I was at the foot of the of the 
cross. 

668
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:47,920
I was at Calvary. 
I was a Golgotha. 

669
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,040
I I felt peace. 
I felt joy. 

670
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,240
And I believe, as a Catholic 
Christian, that my will and 

671
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,880
God's will were perfectly 
united. 

672
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,040
So what happened for me it was 
just an invitation to to be to 

673
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,560
grow into into that, you know, 
image of Christ that is, you 

674
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,520
know, we're invited to to 
participate. 

675
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,240
As Paul says, I make up for what
is lacking in Christ suffering. 

676
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,880
So I was now suffering for the 
salvation of souls. 

677
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,640
So to me, it was a wonderful 
opportunity. 

678
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,720
And you know, frankly again I 
can't embrace that if I'm not 

679
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:25,320
walking that walk for 20 years 
and then they keep me in belly 

680
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:30,240
shackle ankle shackles and carry
my in my wrist, you know, down 

681
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,240
to the US Marshals. 
I'm being released. 

682
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Why do you need to keep me in 
shackles down six flights of 

683
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,920
stairs just to just if you just 
don't want to just humiliate me 

684
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,120
if that's the only point is just
to humiliate me And and frankly 

685
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,040
I think it was. 
I mean, again, maybe that's 

686
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,320
protocol, but I mean, I'm being 
released and I'm not even found 

687
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,040
guilty yet. 
So I'm being released and you're

688
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:55,840
still you're still reminding me,
Like, don't don't do this any 

689
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,920
further. 
This is what's it's going to get

690
00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,240
worse. 
Let's leave this as a permanent 

691
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240
reminder to you. 
I still got the scars on my 

692
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,280
ankles from the the the ankle 
shackles. 

693
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:06,720
Yeah, Those are not very 
comfortable. 

694
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,600
They're not really made to be 
comfortable and they're not made

695
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,000
to really walk in. 
They're kind of the opposite of 

696
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:11,840
that. 
They're supposed to make it a 

697
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,400
struggle to get somewhere on 
purpose. 

698
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,159
Like like you were going to go 
running off, you know, with with

699
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,719
all the kids you got back home 
and all that. 

700
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,960
Like, what are you going to do? 
That being said, you're a pretty

701
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,080
good sized guy and you're you're
in this moment where they're 

702
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,199
basically looking and they're 
like, OK, we got this, this this

703
00:34:26,199 --> 00:34:28,560
violent offender who involved 
like who basically pushed 

704
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,760
somebody, which by the way the 
FBI Academy is full of training 

705
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,199
that is significantly more 
aggressive than the action that 

706
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:35,760
you took on that day. 
So none of these agents should 

707
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,239
have been scared of that. 
And then you were praying is is 

708
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,560
what you told me the last time 
we spoke. 

709
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:41,840
I remember you saying that that 
was the that's where your mind 

710
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,920
went. 
And without that preparation you

711
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:48,239
say 20 plus years on the walk 
you're not going to end up 

712
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:49,360
there. 
You're going to end up, you 

713
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,120
know, asking what's going on and
and I don't know, I just, I find

714
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,880
that example I know when my 
father heard it. 

715
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,440
My dad's older than both of us 
and he's sitting there and he's 

716
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,040
listening and he's just like, 
you know, what a, what a bro. 

717
00:34:59,080 --> 00:34:59,640
There it is. 
Yeah. 

718
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,600
What are they? 
What are they? 

719
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,720
They even did. 
They did entire pieces, hit 

720
00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:06,640
pieces in the leftist media 
about the idea that the rosaries

721
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,680
are now sort of like the rosary 
and the AR15 are the two symbols

722
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:14,000
of resistance in this country. 
You know, they've got to draw it

723
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,440
in there. 
But it's spiritual battle and I 

724
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:17,200
guess physical battle, although 
we're not there yet. 

725
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,400
It's it's so interesting that 
was where your mind went that 

726
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,480
the first thing you thought was 
is I'm not angry at these 

727
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,320
people. 
Did you see any of the the 

728
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,240
agents look at you and think I'm
the bad guy now? 

729
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,840
Did anybody have that look on 
their face? 

730
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Look, when I was at the door and
the second bang came and they 

731
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,880
announced finally that it was 
the FBI and it was you're. 

732
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:39,280
In a bathrobe, right? 
Am I right? 

733
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:40,440
Am I remembering this? 
I'm in. 

734
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,680
I'm in shorts, T-shirts and a 
flip flop. 

735
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,600
OK, at 6:30 in the morning when 
they announced the second time 

736
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,320
when I said declare who you are 
and they said was the FBI open 

737
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:52,400
up. 
Bang, bang, bang. 

738
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:53,080
Doorbell. 
Doorbell. 

739
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,760
Hurry up, hurry up, hurry up. 
I said something that I think 

740
00:35:56,760 --> 00:36:00,280
put them all on their heels. 
I said stay calm. 

741
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,280
I could tell they were very 
anxious. 

742
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:07,240
Stay calm. 
I have seven babies in here. 

743
00:36:07,240 --> 00:36:09,960
When I say that word, baby, I 
think it's just for any man. 

744
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,320
It's like, wait a second, 
there's a baby in the house. 

745
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,840
There's babies in there. 
I just, I don't know why I said 

746
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:15,680
it. 
I just said it. 

747
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,960
That's what I call it. 
My kids, right? 

748
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:18,760
Yeah. 
I Holy Spirit. 

749
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,600
When I came out they were on 
their heels. 

750
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,680
They, you know I, I think a 
warrant supposed to be presented

751
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:26,960
nothing. 
They didn't even say like we're 

752
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,240
taking you down to they just 
they they they patted me down. 

753
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,920
But they just kind of stood 
there and looked at me and I 

754
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,080
said, what are you doing here? 
So much so they didn't even. 

755
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:36,680
I had to find out what they were
doing there. 

756
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:38,760
And they said, well, you know 
why we're here. 

757
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,760
I said, well, I know, oh, you're
here, 'cause I rescue babies is 

758
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:44,680
what I said. 
And they didn't say anything to 

759
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,040
that. 
So then I'm standing there, my 

760
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,480
arms up, right, 'cause I'm 
totally compliant. 

761
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,720
Land to the slaughter. 
Do what you will. 

762
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,920
I said you wouldn't be here if 
the Trump administration was in 

763
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,200
the White House. 
First thing came to my mind, and

764
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:58,600
they didn't. 
They just looked at me. 

765
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,720
I felt like it was Gethsemane 
and the Sanhedrin soldiers are 

766
00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:04,920
coming for Jesus. 
We're here for Jesus and 

767
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:06,480
Nazarea. 
I am he. 

768
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,000
And they kind of they fall to 
the ground. 

769
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:09,680
Well, these agents didn't follow
the ground. 

770
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,280
They just stood there, watched 
me. 

771
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,560
Then my wife comes down and 
says, who are you looking for? 

772
00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,360
Because she thought they were at
the wrong house. 

773
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,840
Him. 
What's his name again? 

774
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,800
I'm sure this isn't protocol 
typically in the FBI handbook, 

775
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,000
but usually you announce what 
you're doing. 

776
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,160
And he said, Mark, how OK do you
have a warrant for his arrest? 

777
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,160
The my wife says to them, well 
we're taking him with or without

778
00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:36,880
a warrant, so. 
So this is like the disposition 

779
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,840
of of the lead agent and he was 
the one that was speaking. 

780
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,800
The rest of them, they weren't 
saying anything. 

781
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,160
When I got in the car and I said
why so many of you? 

782
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,680
They said, well we know nothing 
about you. 

783
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:50,960
We come prepared for anything. 
I said really. 

784
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,800
Two battering Rams, 20 plus 
federal agents, the state 

785
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520
troopers, swat guys at my back 
door. 

786
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:58,720
Really. 
You know nothing about me. 

787
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,680
OK. 
I find that really hard to 

788
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,480
believe. 
You know what's? 

789
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,040
That was it. 
They probably knew nothing about

790
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,880
you and and I don't know if we 
talked about this the last time 

791
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,200
the. 
Other. 

792
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:08,720
Agents, right. 
Well, most of the agents 

793
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,520
probably knew nothing. 
So the goofiest thing is this. 

794
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,040
This is the saddest part of it. 
This is the really the banality 

795
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,160
of evil. 
And This is why that that Nazi 

796
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,840
analogy is so important. 
The way the FBI works is that 

797
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:23,640
every single new agent they have
to, they are required to check 

798
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,240
off X number of arrests. 
They have to be at a certain 

799
00:38:26,240 --> 00:38:28,160
number of arrests and it's 
usually five. 

800
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,640
That's the number. 
I think that's the magic number.

801
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,520
You got to participate in some 
way, shape or form. 

802
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,200
Sometimes if you have like a 
very non active squad, you'll 

803
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,760
literally watch one on TV where 
you're sitting, you know you're 

804
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,000
sitting in a room and they come 
in and they're interviewing you 

805
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:41,080
and they're going to put cuffs 
on you. 

806
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,120
And I watched you do that. 
I can sign that off as an 

807
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,960
arrest. 
I was participating but 

808
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,480
everybody wants to get in on the
arrest. 

809
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,080
None of them probably knew what 
was going on. 

810
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:53,080
And so all of that, you know, 
it's a cultural failure and it's

811
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,760
and it's truly evil because 
shouldn't you be asking the 

812
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,280
number one question? 
I was asked when they asked me 

813
00:38:58,280 --> 00:38:59,360
to go do something. 
It's like, what are my 

814
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,240
authorities? 
What are we doing? 

815
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,640
Why? 
But that only comes from a 

816
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,880
fundamental distrust, which I 
think anybody who spent enough 

817
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:06,880
time around the government 
should have. 

818
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,560
We're not, we're not hiring 
those people today. 

819
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:10,560
And so they're going to come and
knock on the door and they're 

820
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,600
going to come and they're going 
to be put off guard by somebody 

821
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,800
who says I've got 7 babies and 
they're like babies. 

822
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:18,320
We don't go to places where 
there are babies, you know, And 

823
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,040
then you then you brought in 
politics to it, which is obvious

824
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,600
to anybody sitting on the 
outside of it. 

825
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,200
But none of those people thought
they were doing something 

826
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,360
political. 
I'm sure of it. 

827
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520
They were just doing their job. 
What about the lead agent, 

828
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,320
though? 
He knew. 

829
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,120
Oh, for sure. 
Oh yeah, he's the only guy that 

830
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:33,920
had the knowledge. 
Well, and the other thing is 

831
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,320
this, and everybody has a 
misconception. 

832
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,240
One of the things I like to do 
in this program is educate just 

833
00:39:37,240 --> 00:39:38,880
a little bit. 
And it's like nobody's going to 

834
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,720
show you a warrant from the FBI.
They're not going to show you a 

835
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,240
search warrant until after. 
When they do that, until they 

836
00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:45,160
get the house secure and clear, 
they're not going to do that. 

837
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:46,960
And so we have this expectation 
from TV. 

838
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,520
It's like, you know, come to the
door, we got a warrant. 

839
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:49,520
They're going to hold the paper 
up. 

840
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:50,640
No, nobody's holding the paper 
up. 

841
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,720
They're holding the shield up. 
And so that is a fundamental 

842
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:57,160
misconception that we have in 
the media and at least a really 

843
00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,640
possible dangerous outcomes like
you say possible red martyrdom 

844
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480
because people are expecting a 
certain thing and the FB is 

845
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,560
reputation is built on garbage 
TV, it's not real as you saw. 

846
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,600
So the 4th Amendment protects a 
man in his home, right? 

847
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:14,280
And so in order to be able to 
arrest a man, you you got to 

848
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:17,040
produce a warrant though, right?
You can't search and seize a 

849
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:19,560
home without a warrant, correct?
But what it says is that there 

850
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,920
must be a warrant, but it 
doesn't say that you get to see 

851
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:23,320
it beforehand. 
And that, I think, is the 

852
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,720
scariest thing for guys like you
and even guys like me. 

853
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,920
No doubt about it. 
I don't think it's a good 

854
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:29,520
policy. 
I'm just wanting people to know.

855
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,920
That they have to announce that 
they have a warrant though, 

856
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:33,720
that's the way that. 
Yeah, no, that's the way I was 

857
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:35,240
trained. 
So bang, bang, bang, probably 

858
00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:38,160
like 3 bangs, bang, bang, bang, 
FBI search warrant, FBI warrant.

859
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,120
We may not say what kind of 
warrant it might be an arrest 

860
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,520
warrant, but usually it's a 
search warrant. 

861
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
And if they have all those 
things, as long as they've 

862
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,600
confirmed it with the judge, 
then they'll go into your home 

863
00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:48,480
and you may never see it. 
And that I think that actually 

864
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,080
is bad. 
I think that's bad as a people 

865
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,640
that are presumed innocent 
because did you feel like you 

866
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,120
were being presumed innocent 
during that that arrest? 

867
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Absolutely not. 
Absolutely not. 

868
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:02,320
I I I felt like guilty and 
damned where I stood as I came 

869
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,000
out of my home. 
And again a man in the 4th 

870
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:08,800
Amendment you know should have 
the security of his own home. 

871
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,320
This he he should be secured 
that that that the sanctity of 

872
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,040
his home the safety of his home 
that that would be protected and

873
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:17,880
preserved under the the Bill of 
Rights and and frankly that's 

874
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,040
part of our our federal 
complaint against the FBI is 

875
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,320
that they violated my 4th and my
amendment right. 

876
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,560
So no. 
Absolutely not. 

877
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,160
I I my kids were in danger. 
I felt in danger. 

878
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,680
In fact that's why I went with 
them because I wanted to protect

879
00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:33,120
my children. 
I wasn't going to resist because

880
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,640
I didn't. 
I wanted to get them as away 

881
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:36,120
from my house as quickly as 
possible. 

882
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:38,840
You know, like traditional 
masculinity, your job is to 

883
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:40,000
protect. 
You want to talk about the other

884
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,840
things because it was actually 
really impactful When we spoke 

885
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,840
first spoke, I walked away 
thinking about the roles of men 

886
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,520
in society, both as Christian 
men and as just good Americans. 

887
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,720
But talk about how we've kind of
lost some of this masculinity 

888
00:41:49,720 --> 00:41:51,680
and what you and how you kind of
work in that field. 

889
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:54,800
Yeah. 
So for 20 years I've been I've 

890
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,800
been running a men's ministry 
and and trying to empower men 

891
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,120
and encourage men and and even 
in my own walk you know you know

892
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:04,880
you're you're trying to grow in 
these these areas yourself. 

893
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,400
So traditionally you know we we 
look at men and their core 

894
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,880
nature and we see them to be 
leaders, protectors and 

895
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,960
providers and and a lot of men 
aren't formed in that. 

896
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,760
It's something that you know 
it's probably true to their core

897
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:23,760
being but unless it's enforced 
or unless someone is there to 

898
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,000
guide them and mentor them, they
will probably be succumbed to 

899
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,440
the cultural's expectation of 
them and become extremely 

900
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,240
passive. 
A very passive man who's 

901
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:38,640
submissive to you know just the 
will of of anybody in in their 

902
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,400
in their presence. 
And so you know a man really 

903
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480
needs to know his role. 
And as Catholic Christian men we

904
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,200
we understand that we are head 
of our homes. 

905
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,640
We are Bishop of our homes as 
Saint Augustine would say. 

906
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:53,720
So you know we have that 
headship by by virtue of our of 

907
00:42:53,720 --> 00:42:56,320
our role. 
It doesn't mean we're right on 

908
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,920
everything and it doesn't mean 
we get to do everything we want.

909
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:03,280
It's just proper to our nature. 
Whereas the woman is is the 

910
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:07,320
heart of the home and and and 
that's proper to her nature And 

911
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:10,880
so it's complementarity. 
And So what we try to do for men

912
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,680
is encourage them, give them the
skills that they need to really 

913
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,880
live out these roles and we take
them on retreats and we have 

914
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,360
men's groups all around the 
country. 

915
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,000
And so I've been doing that for 
a number of years. 

916
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:25,160
And so when I saw that my 
children were in danger, right. 

917
00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:27,320
You know, they're screaming on 
the steps. 

918
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,560
My wife has a gun pointed at 
her. 

919
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,600
My first instincts are to like, 
get away from the home and 

920
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,200
protect these children, right? 
So tell me what you want me to 

921
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:37,840
do. 
Put me in whatever. 

922
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:40,240
Just get me get, take, get, get 
away from that. 

923
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,760
My anxious 79 year old sees the 
SWAT guys at the back door. 

924
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:50,920
To this day, she's still 
traumatized by just seeing the M

925
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,600
sixteens and the and the SWAT 
guys at the back door 

926
00:43:54,240 --> 00:43:57,560
traumatizes her little heart 
because she's extremely 

927
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,120
sensitive. 
And so as a dad, your job is to 

928
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,640
protect their innocence. 
And this is the this is the most

929
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:06,880
criminal thing of the FBI and 
the failure of the system and 

930
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,640
the failure of the men who were 
just there to check off the box 

931
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,440
of the arrests that they're 
supposed to fulfill so that they

932
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,360
can get their full agency 
recognition. 

933
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:18,800
Is this? 
For 15 years, my wife and I 

934
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,680
homeschooled our children to 
preserve and protect their 

935
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,480
innocence. 
The Sacred Deposit of the Faith,

936
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,960
100%. 
But they're innocence. 

937
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:32,120
The government stole that 
innocence in an instant and 

938
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,640
didn't think twice about it. 
And that's the biggest crime in 

939
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,920
all this. 
Yeah, I don't disagree with you.

940
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:39,080
And and interestingly enough, 
you guys were probably ahead of 

941
00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,120
the curve as far as the the 
modern kind of home 

942
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,160
homeschooling movement that's 
been kind of pushing forward. 

943
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,560
It was slowly creeping on the 
this is where it went parabolic 

944
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,480
probably with the the COVID 
tyranny that everybody kind of 

945
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,400
experienced. 
They went like, whoa, what? 

946
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,480
What were we not paying 
attention to right in this? 

947
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:55,160
In this walk that you've been 
on, you've been speaking to men.

948
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,840
So you're doing public speaking.
You're talking about the proper 

949
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,920
role of things, which are pretty
traditional and, you know, human

950
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,680
beings had figured out for 
thousands of years until 

951
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:04,200
recently. 
We when we forgot how to do 

952
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,200
everything. 
Did you ever think that you were

953
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,640
going to do this in a political 
environment, that you were going

954
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,080
to step into that morass? 
Was that in your heart at all? 

955
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,680
Absolutely not. 
I mean look, we we cross 

956
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,640
pollinate with, you know, with 
our First Amendment rights as we

957
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:22,360
as we fight pornography and 
fight abortion and defend 

958
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,160
traditional marriage. 
I've done witnesses and 

959
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,880
demonstrations in front of the 
White House. 

960
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,400
So there's a cross pollination 
whereby, you know, we stand 

961
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:35,160
against, but never thought that 
I would put myself in a position

962
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,920
whereby now I would become a 
potential national leader in a 

963
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:42,960
political realm. 
I was a faith leader, a ministry

964
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,680
leader, apostolate that I LED, 
right. 

965
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,800
That's, that's who I am and 
that's my life's work. 

966
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:52,080
However, now I'm in a position 
whereby, you know, Saint 

967
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:55,560
Augustine says if if God gives 
you a platform like now you've 

968
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,000
been given Kyle with the role 
that you have in this country of

969
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,160
ours and and you abdicate that 
platform, you will be held 

970
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:04,240
accountable for it. 
Again. 

971
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:07,440
If you have the power to 
influence and effect change to 

972
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,800
save the Republic and you just 
say, you know what, it's just 

973
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,680
easier for me to just stay at 
home and do what I do. 

974
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,080
You know that there's going to 
be accountability for that 

975
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,560
because God has created you for 
such a time as this. 

976
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,360
You, Kyle, have been created 
from the beginning of time to do

977
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,720
what you're doing right now. 
And as of I and I think we're 

978
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:28,560
both in the will of God because 
we're exposing the injustice and

979
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,360
the powers and principalities of
this present darkness. 

980
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,080
The evil one is all around us. 
We have a duty to be light in 

981
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,400
that darkness. 
And so now I find myself in this

982
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,240
political realm, not as a as 
someone who desires it, but 

983
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,840
someone who's willing to do it 
because God's asking it up. 

984
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,320
I always tell people Isaiah 68 
was always my favorite. 

985
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,440
I don't know if I told you this,
but this is my absolute it was 

986
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,320
my favorite. 
I don't know why I love the way 

987
00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,760
that it was. 
But but the answer to you know 

988
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,320
when, when God calls his name, 
he doesn't. 

989
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,400
What is the answer When, when 
someone says your name, how do 

990
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,440
people normally respond? 
They normally say what you know 

991
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:08,160
or yeah, or hello. 
And he said, here I am. 

992
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,280
And and for whatever reason, 
that's always stuck with me, 

993
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,800
even since I was a kid. 
I've always answered when you 

994
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,560
say Kyle, it doesn't matter 
where you are. 

995
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:17,680
If you say it, I'm at the mall, 
which I don't want to be at the 

996
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,160
mall. 
But if I ever am at a mall and 

997
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,720
you see me say, hey, hey, Kyle, 
I'll say here I am because I 

998
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:25,840
don't know what else to say. 
It's just stating a fact that I 

999
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:29,120
am present in this exact place 
and for whatever reason that's 

1000
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,480
always been and that's the 
answer to the call. 

1001
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,400
I have no interest in being a 
public figure. 

1002
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,960
I never wanted any of that. 
In fact, there's a you can, you 

1003
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:37,480
can prove it. 
And I'm guessing that you have a

1004
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,200
similar sort of background. 
You can go look and find out 

1005
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:43,520
exactly how political my 
aspirations were, were my media 

1006
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,120
aspirations by seeing that there
was none of it before I got 

1007
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,080
tapped. 
And one of the things that me 

1008
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,040
and the guys always say is that,
you know, you can kind of see 

1009
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,960
God's plan by looking in the 
rearview mirror, but it's almost

1010
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,320
impossible to see it when it's 
happening. 

1011
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:58,120
But I'm wondering because you 
had the presence of mind and you

1012
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,120
started immediately seeing a lot
of these things, your your 

1013
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,600
statement about your mindset as 
you're actually getting into 

1014
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,040
cops and going in there, you 
know, praying the rosary and and

1015
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:08,560
and making it a moment of 
devotion. 

1016
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:12,240
Like, did you have a clearview 
of what was being asked of you 

1017
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,480
at the exact moment or is that 
something that you've been able 

1018
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,520
to look back on and kind of fill
in the blanks? 

1019
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,120
Look, I've known for years that 
I was putting myself in the 

1020
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:26,040
crosshairs of potential arrest. 
And as you as a someone who's a 

1021
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,200
student of faith and a student 
of the of the Bible, right, you,

1022
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,400
you see this. 
And so, you know, Martin Luther 

1023
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,320
King, you know someone who's 
doing something, who knows he's 

1024
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,920
going to put himself in a 
dangerous situation. 

1025
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,040
We minister in dangerous places 
sometimes And, you know, 

1026
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,880
fighting pornography, which I've
done for years, You know, you're

1027
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:47,440
you're fighting the mob 
essentially at at the deepest 

1028
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,320
level of that, you know, like 
it's not a safe place to be. 

1029
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:53,480
So I knew that, that that the 
bad people were there. 

1030
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:55,520
And of course when we deal with 
abortion, you're dealing with 

1031
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,440
pure evil. 
And so, you know when you're 

1032
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,800
going up against Satan and the 
people themselves are not 

1033
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,760
satanic, some might be, but the 
buildings, it's infested with 

1034
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,880
evil. 
When you're going up and you're 

1035
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,600
pushing against this and you are
actually being successful and 

1036
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:18,880
antagonizing the demons, that is
going to come back at you in a 

1037
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,160
spiritual, supernatural way. 
In other words, the blowback 

1038
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,640
from something like that in a 
spiritual lens is, is is 

1039
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,760
inevitable. 
So I knew that Satan would come 

1040
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:31,520
after me to come after my 
marriage. 

1041
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,600
He'd come after my children and 
he'd be prowling around like 

1042
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,400
that, roarling, lying, looking 
for to devour. 

1043
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,080
So for me, Kyle and I think you,
you know this would be good for 

1044
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,600
your audiences. 
You need to know that when Saint

1045
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:46,680
Peter says the devil is prowling
around like a roaring lion, you 

1046
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,360
need to know that that is really
best understood. 

1047
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:54,160
The old African proverb that a 
roaring lion catches no prey. 

1048
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:57,360
In other words, a roaring lion 
is a wounded lion. 

1049
00:49:57,720 --> 00:50:00,240
A lion. 
Orion's don't roar, roar unless 

1050
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:02,640
they're injured in some way. 
Because when they hunt their 

1051
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,200
prey, they're stealth, they're 
quiet, they don't make noise. 

1052
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,360
If they make noise, that means 
they're wounded. 

1053
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:11,400
So Satan is wounded. 
He's permanently wounded. 

1054
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,360
He loses. 
He knows he's a loser, but he's 

1055
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,960
fighting as best he can to take 
some some with him. 

1056
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,640
And so we know that Satan is 
going to attend in whatever way 

1057
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,600
he can with the third of the 
angels that fell with him, which

1058
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,520
are millions upon millions of 
angels. 

1059
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:30,840
Billions. 
And that number is just so a 

1060
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,920
normal you can't eat. 
There's more angels than there 

1061
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:35,320
are stars in the sky, and 
there's more stars in the sky 

1062
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:36,920
than there are grains of sand on
the earth. 

1063
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,480
So that third of the angels is 
beyond our imagination. 

1064
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,240
So these angels, these demons 
are going to push back. 

1065
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:48,280
And so for me, when I got pushed
back in the form of people who 

1066
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:51,640
are cooperating with evil, 
collaborating with evil, and we 

1067
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,680
could call it what it is, this 
Nazi soldiers or those that are 

1068
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:58,120
just saying, yes, the following 
orders cooperate with that. 

1069
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,920
You're going to experience that.
And and so when I was arrested, 

1070
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,880
I knew that without a shadow of 
a doubt because I knew I was 

1071
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,920
innocent and I was being honest 
for a righteous cause. 

1072
00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:14,560
So when I got the cuffs on me, I
went right to martyrdom. 

1073
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:18,680
I went right to Felicity and 
Perpetua. 

1074
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,280
I went right to, you know, Saint
Paul. 

1075
00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,400
Right. 
Maxima and Colby. 

1076
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,560
I went right to those people and
I was praying along with them. 

1077
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,080
So was it instant? 
Probably not instant. 

1078
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,640
But by the time I was shackled 
and in that little white room in

1079
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:34,480
the federal building, I was 
right there. 

1080
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,560
Yeah. 
I think that that preparation 

1081
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,000
though most people don't, many 
people haven't put themselves in

1082
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,440
that spot. 
They're busy living their lives.

1083
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,040
They're not looking around. 
I think I said it the other day.

1084
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,600
It's like so many people were 
focused on their jobs, 70s, 

1085
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:48,080
eighties, 90s, they're doing 
that kind of thing. 

1086
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,160
Then they're focused on their 
computers at their little office

1087
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,240
cubicle. 
Then they're now we're all 

1088
00:51:51,240 --> 00:51:52,800
looking at our phones and we're 
looking down. 

1089
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,040
Everyone's looking down. 
Nobody's looking up and saying 

1090
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,680
what is happening around me, #1 
and #2, Am I prepared for 

1091
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,600
whatever is coming? 
And and that preparation sets 

1092
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:02,920
you apart, I think, in many 
ways. 

1093
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:05,760
And then just the abject 
ridiculousness of what they were

1094
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,840
doing, it also helps. 
So you made a decision at some 

1095
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,680
point. 
Can you kind of talk us through,

1096
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,000
you know, maybe some of the 
kitchen table conversations you 

1097
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,920
must have had with your wife 
about what that looked like when

1098
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,960
you decided, hey, we're about to
keep this thing going, it's, 

1099
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:21,000
it's about to get Dumber in this
house and probably more 

1100
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,640
uncomfortable. 
Well, we spent a year in hell 

1101
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,600
this past year and you know, 
just journeying and the 4 1/2 

1102
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,800
months till the trial we go. 
I looked at the trial as 

1103
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,480
crucifixion date. 
You know, I I looked at it as, 

1104
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,480
look, I'm preparing to go to 
prison. 

1105
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:40,200
So when we were set free and 
vindicated and the judge, Judge 

1106
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,160
Pappert says Mr. how you are 
free to go. 

1107
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,040
You don't understand freedom 
till it's taken from you. 

1108
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,200
We take all our freedoms for 
granted. 

1109
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,200
All of us as Americans do, 
because we're born into it and 

1110
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,640
we don't really appreciate it. 
So I'm thankful to a degree that

1111
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:58,200
I have a greater appreciation of
my freedom and that has caused 

1112
00:52:58,720 --> 00:53:02,560
caused me to come to an 
awareness of protecting others 

1113
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:05,600
and their freedom. 
And so as we journeyed this past

1114
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,320
year and discerningly, you know,
people say you should run for 

1115
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,360
office, you should run for 
politics. 

1116
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,440
I told him no way, I'm not 
interested in doing that. 

1117
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:16,320
But as more people were saying, 
consider this, Please pray about

1118
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,360
this. 
I had to take it to prayer. 

1119
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,920
Ryan Ray and I had to talk about
this and say what is the Lord 

1120
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,480
asking of us, Kyle? 
You know, if we want to grow in 

1121
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,120
our faith, you have to allow 
yourself to be stretched. 

1122
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:31,480
If you're not being stretched, 
you're not growing. 

1123
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,280
So for me to just go back to 
business as usual, for me just 

1124
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:39,080
to go back to my ministry and 
just to do what I was doing and 

1125
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,000
go back to Planned Parenthood, 
which I do and not see the 

1126
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,040
bigger picture here would be 
very myopic in my in me. 

1127
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,000
I I would be very close minded. 
The Lord has expanded my heart, 

1128
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,320
the Lord has stretched me and 
now we want to be stretched even

1129
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,280
further. 
So running for Congress now is 

1130
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,440
the biggest stretch of my life. 
I've never done anything so 

1131
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:04,160
toxic in my life. 
And so the only way we can walk 

1132
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:09,000
this walk is by having a good 
prayer life and my wife and I 

1133
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,280
being even more united. 
And the good news about all 

1134
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,600
this, if there is any good, you 
know, a lot of times I was been 

1135
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:18,600
doing ministry on my own and my 
wife was back at home taking 

1136
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,000
care of the kids. 
But now as we're running for 

1137
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,600
Congress, my wife is actually 
this is, she's doing it with me.

1138
00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:26,680
So we're even more united as a 
couple, which has been a great 

1139
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,840
grace. 
So as we talk and discern and we

1140
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,680
have discern that we will run 
and we are running for the First

1141
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,800
District in Pennsylvania, my 
wife is right alongside with 

1142
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,640
because it wouldn't work if she 
was. 

1143
00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,760
If she wasn't doing it with me, 
it would drive a wedge between 

1144
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:44,000
us. 
And if she wasn't on board, I 

1145
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,320
wouldn't do it. 
And she knows that for such a 

1146
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,160
time as this we have been 
called, and such a time as this,

1147
00:54:49,240 --> 00:54:52,200
Kyle you've been called, that 
we're being raised up to be 

1148
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:54,240
great Saints. 
And one of the things that maybe

1149
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,720
your audience would appreciate, 
I don't know, maybe not. 

1150
00:54:56,720 --> 00:55:00,280
St. 
Polycarp was a 1st century St. 

1151
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:04,120
who was a disciple of John. 
And you know, he was a 

1152
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,880
theologian. 
And he said that the Saints at 

1153
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,360
the end times will shine more 
brightly than the first 

1154
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:12,960
witnesses to Christ on the 
earth. 

1155
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,520
And why is that so important? 
Why would he say such a thing? 

1156
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,640
He said because they didn't have
to confront and defeat the 

1157
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:23,280
accuser. 
They didn't have to confront and

1158
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,240
defeat the dragon. 
Satan, you and I, we are in 

1159
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,160
this, these times where now we 
have to confront and defeat the 

1160
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:33,240
evil. 1. 
And so Christ is not with us in 

1161
00:55:33,240 --> 00:55:36,720
the way they had him, You know, 
Polycarp John, they were around 

1162
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:40,240
with Jesus. 
We don't have that realm 

1163
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,600
anymore. 
So in this regard, you know 

1164
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:46,000
we're being raised up at this 
time to be a a great light for 

1165
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,920
the world. 
You said the word you hadn't 

1166
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,720
faced that sort of toxicity 
before. 

1167
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,160
Let's talk about. 
Let's talk about what's toxic. 

1168
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,120
Look, I've never seen bad 
behavior like I've seen it in 

1169
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:01,680
politics, even local politics. 
The disparagement, the the 

1170
00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:06,440
calamony in the slander, the 
things that have already been 

1171
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,360
said about me that totally 
untrue. 

1172
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,680
I I just, it's just bad 
behavior. 

1173
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,720
I don't want to be around it. 
I don't want to be around 

1174
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:17,720
gossip. 
I don't want to be around people

1175
00:56:17,720 --> 00:56:21,120
who think poorly of other people
because what we we are called to

1176
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,480
think the best of each person 
that we need until they prove 

1177
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,440
otherwise. 
Now you got to be shrewd. 

1178
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,760
You got to be, you know, you got
to be calculating and prudential

1179
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,320
in your judgments. 
But at the same time you don't 

1180
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,240
presume that everybody's evil 
that you meet until you they 

1181
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,960
recognize that there is evil 
there in in their actions. 

1182
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:43,320
So for me, it's like walking 
into this land bind where things

1183
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:47,320
just blow up right in front of 
you and and and and you have no 

1184
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:51,080
say in the matter and you just 
see like people imploding left 

1185
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:53,400
and right based upon past 
behavior. 

1186
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:55,720
How about forgiveness? 
How about redemption? 

1187
00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:58,200
How about we move forward? 
I've forgiven the government. 

1188
00:56:58,320 --> 00:57:00,160
I've forgiven all those FBI 
agents. 

1189
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:02,080
I had compassion in my heart 
that day. 

1190
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,080
In fact, one FBI agent, and he's
the only one that I think 

1191
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,960
totally recognized what was 
going on. 

1192
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,760
He shook my hand in that federal
building and said it was a real 

1193
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,120
pleasure to meet you. 
And that man knew in front of 

1194
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,760
his peers that this was a good 
man, that this was wrong. 

1195
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,280
And he was willing to say in 
front of his peers, like, hey, I

1196
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:25,040
was blessed to meet you today. 
I couldn't believe it. 

1197
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,080
And I said, hey, it was a joy 
for me, so. 

1198
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,360
That's such a strange moment. 
That's kind of what I've been 

1199
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,120
experiencing with this campaign 
thing. 

1200
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:37,280
There's some interesting irony 
in where you're running. 

1201
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,760
You want to talk about that? 
There is some interesting irony.

1202
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,680
And, you know, I've been told 
that Brian Fitzpatrick, the 

1203
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:49,200
incumbent who is in my district,
is the only former FBI agent in 

1204
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,960
Congress right now. 
Perhaps there were others in the

1205
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,360
past, but from what I 
understand, he's the only one. 

1206
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:58,640
He's my congressman and and he's
been my congressman. 

1207
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,480
This will be his fifth term if 
he wins. 

1208
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,280
He did not come out and support 
me. 

1209
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:05,360
He did not condemn his former 
employer. 

1210
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,280
I'm his constituent. 
He did not come to administer to

1211
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,440
my family as of my congressman. 
Say, hey, is there anything we 

1212
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,520
can do for you? 
Is there anything I can do for 

1213
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,960
you or just on a personal level,
not even make a public stage of 

1214
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:17,640
it? 
Hey, look. 

1215
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,280
Are you doing OK? 
You know, I I'm your. 

1216
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:22,880
I'm your representative here. 
Let me help you. 

1217
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:26,000
He had nothing to say. 
He hasn't said anything to this 

1218
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,720
day. 
He hasn't condemned this former 

1219
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,960
employer, and that's not why 
we're running. 

1220
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:32,680
But isn't that an interesting 
narrative that the guy that I'm 

1221
00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:37,640
challenging is an FBI agent and 
I have the story that I have 

1222
00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,320
with the FBI. 
So I think it's it's just a a 

1223
00:58:40,320 --> 00:58:43,680
God moment for sure. 
How busy is that primary? 

1224
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Are you one of many? 
No, it's just me and him. 

1225
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:52,200
It's a standoff. 
And I tell you, we had 118 votes

1226
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,480
in the House right now. 
This is a huge, This might be 

1227
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:59,240
the most important election in 
Pennsylvania outside of the 

1228
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:03,800
presidential election because of
the importance of this seat. 

1229
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,360
And you know that the Democratic
Party is going to go after this 

1230
00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:10,880
seat with everything they have. 
So once we win the primary, you 

1231
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,560
got to you believe the Soros 
money, the Clinton Foundation, 

1232
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:16,600
it's all going to be poured into
the seat because they want this 

1233
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,960
seat, they want to get that 
majority back. 

1234
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,760
And you know what, my 
congressman, he votes like a 

1235
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:24,360
Democrat. 
That's what he does. 

1236
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,720
He, he he, he votes 70% of the 
time with President Joe Biden. 

1237
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:29,920
He doesn't vote with the 
Constitution. 

1238
00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:32,600
He just voted for FISA. 
He wants more federal 

1239
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:37,040
surveillance of of of people. 
He votes with the Equality Act. 

1240
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:39,760
He he votes with everything that
it goes against, even his own 

1241
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,640
Catholic, Christian faith. 
So look, it couldn't be more 

1242
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:45,480
clear how different we are. 
But you know, yeah, it's just me

1243
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:47,960
and him. 
And you know, may the best man 

1244
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:51,240
win, Just like you won the 
Catholic hero vote. 

1245
00:59:51,240 --> 00:59:54,160
The best man won. 
Don't start with me on that one.

1246
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:59,360
It's so it it's so interesting 
and like I say, just the the 

1247
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:02,360
places that you're put in your 
life to be able to make that 

1248
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,760
moment happen. 
And now you are going head to 

1249
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,040
head against a former agent who 
as you said votes a certain way 

1250
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,360
and is a squishy Catholic. 
The the only thing that 

1251
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,560
continues to make me feel really
good about the way the world 

1252
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:18,080
looks is that the harder and the
more firm paths. 

1253
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:22,320
Continue to attract more feet. 
Nobody's looking to go walk 

1254
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,240
through the soft wishy washy. 
Well, everything's kind of OK 

1255
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,000
thing, you know what I mean? 
There's just more and more like 

1256
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,040
the the churches that are 
growing in the Catholic Church, 

1257
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:30,960
they're all much more 
traditional. 

1258
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:32,720
That's what my wife and I went 
looking for. 

1259
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,760
Nobody wants it easy. 
Everyone understands that we are

1260
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:39,200
in a time where it requires real
consistency and real rigor. 

1261
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:41,480
And I hope that's the case for 
your. 

1262
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,640
So I think people are going to 
be interested in your race 

1263
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,960
specifically people from 
outside. 

1264
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,480
You said there's going to be 
Soros money. 

1265
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:50,520
What can people do to support 
that and maybe tell us a little 

1266
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,840
bit about what the platform is 
other than that you're a good 

1267
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,120
man and I think that's that's 
objectively clear, but what is 

1268
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:56,240
the platform you're trying to 
push? 

1269
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:58,560
Yeah, sure. 
Well, you remind me of just the,

1270
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,320
you know, the blood of the 
martyrs is the seed of the 

1271
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:02,280
church, right. 
So Tertullian said that. 

1272
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:05,760
So as you said, the people 
seeing like this opportunity for

1273
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:10,720
them, it's attractive, good 
people are stepping forward. 

1274
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,760
A lot of good people are saying,
you know what, I can make a 

1275
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,080
difference. 
And I think this is what our 

1276
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:19,080
founding fathers wanted was for 
people, normal people, to be 

1277
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,880
public servants and to serve and
get out right. 

1278
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:25,000
It's not for career politicians 
and to become multi 

1279
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,400
millionaires. 80% of Democrats 
are multi millionaires, 30% of 

1280
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,800
Republicans are multi 
millionaires. 

1281
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,000
It's a, it's a it's a it's a 
career for them. 

1282
01:01:33,000 --> 01:01:34,920
But this is not what we 
intended. 

1283
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:38,680
So for me, look, I, I, I'm all 
about term limits, right? 

1284
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:41,640
I I'm not there to to to stay 
for the rest of my life. 

1285
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:44,640
You can go to 
hulkforcongress.com is our 

1286
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,360
website. 
HOUCKFOR congress.com. 

1287
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:50,320
You'll see our platform. 
But to answer your question, our

1288
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:52,960
platform is common sense. 
Let's start with the 

1289
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,160
Constitution, right? 
This is our this is our guide. 

1290
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,800
And so sadly, Congress has not 
been following the Constitution 

1291
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:04,000
for a long time. 
And so it this is what I will be

1292
01:02:04,000 --> 01:02:06,000
relying on. 
You know, when we deal with 

1293
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,320
Congress, we deal with 
immigration, military weights 

1294
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,640
and measures and limit limiting 
government. 

1295
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:15,120
That's the four enumerated 
powers of a Congress person, 

1296
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:18,600
congressman and woman. 
So look, that's where we will 

1297
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:19,920
go. 
And so when it comes to 

1298
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:21,800
immigration, we're going to shut
down the border. 

1299
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,040
At least that's what I'm going 
to support. 

1300
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,480
Because if someone's bleeding 
and hemorrhaging on the 

1301
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,000
battlefield, you got to stop the
bleeding. 

1302
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,720
That's what I would advocate. 
Now, of course I would love to 

1303
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,120
enforce existing immigration 
laws, but I don't think that's 

1304
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,760
enough. 
I think we got to stop the 

1305
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,600
bleeding, get it right. 
We can only take in 300 to 

1306
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:43,680
500,000 legal immigrants a year.
That's the most we can take in. 

1307
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,360
We took in that last month 
alone, so we got a major crisis,

1308
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:50,640
clear and present danger. 
I think it more important than 

1309
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,480
anything else going on in the 
world right now. 

1310
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,560
Congress needs to focus on that 
issue and thankfully some of 

1311
01:02:55,560 --> 01:02:58,080
them are getting getting their 
heads wrapped around it So 

1312
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,880
that's one of the major issues 
we're dealing with obviously 

1313
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:04,040
strong military we got to have 
we have to have a good military 

1314
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,880
readiness and and and but but 
for me as a as a man in ministry

1315
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,920
I I was doing healing retreats 
for veterans. 

1316
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:14,240
You know we have so many vets 
that are 22 of them a day are 

1317
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:17,280
committing suicide right coming 
back after the way we pulled out

1318
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,080
of the Afghanistan war in total 
crisis. 

1319
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:22,640
You know, so it's for for me 
that I, I got to see the 

1320
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,800
veterans in that lens, even 
though that may not be a a full 

1321
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,480
constitutional normal power. 
We can't neglect our heroes. 

1322
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:31,760
We can't forget about them. 
And so of course, you know, when

1323
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:35,400
it comes to the economy, my 
gosh, man, we are funding so 

1324
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,000
many things that are 
unconstitutional, like the 

1325
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,440
Department of Education, for 
instance, that has to go right, 

1326
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:45,600
like that'll put in billions of 
dollars back into our into our 

1327
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,640
economy, right. 
And how about, you know, the war

1328
01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:50,840
that we're the proxy war we're 
fighting over in Ukraine. 

1329
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:54,480
We're just blank checking 
billions upon billions of 

1330
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:57,480
dollars for this proxy war 
that's never ending. 

1331
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,000
We don't even know where that 
money's going. 

1332
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:01,920
You know, how about we restore 
that to the economy? 

1333
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,680
And how about we get back to 
energy independence again, 

1334
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,560
right? 
As for, you know, that's that 

1335
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:09,280
was where we were closed. 
Remember at the end of the Trump

1336
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:12,200
administration we were paying 
like $1.98 for gas here on the 

1337
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,480
East Coast, but now it's back up
to 5, four, some $7.00 in 

1338
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,800
California. 
Remember we how close we were 

1339
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,200
getting to being energy 
independent? 

1340
01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:22,800
Well, all that stuff belongs at 
the state level. 

1341
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:26,080
It's actually not a federal 
problem, but we making it a 

1342
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,880
federal problem. 
We need to put all this stuff 

1343
01:04:27,880 --> 01:04:30,280
back at the state. 
We restore all this. 

1344
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:33,960
You get some money back into our
economy, then we start 

1345
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:37,040
addressing this inflation issue.
So anyhow, this is just some of 

1346
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:38,400
the the issues that we're 
dealing with. 

1347
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,680
Of course, my my, the, the 
incumbent, the congressman I'm 

1348
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,360
fighting against, you know, he 
wants more government 

1349
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:48,040
surveillance, right? 
You can take the FBI agent out 

1350
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,760
of the agency, but you really 
can't take the agent out of the 

1351
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:52,120
van. 
There's one way to do it. 

1352
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:53,800
Turns out there's one way to do 
that. 

1353
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,800
How you do that? 
You just throw him out and then 

1354
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,960
you attack him aggressively and 
see what he does. 

1355
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:02,360
If he's old enough and if he's 
wise enough and more aggressive.

1356
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,520
Let me let me throw something at
their plate. 

1357
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:06,040
Kind of a devil's advocate, 
'cause I think a lot of the 

1358
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,960
places that that Republicans 
lose and you're running as a 

1359
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,080
Republican, you're in the 
primary there against an 

1360
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,760
incumbent Republican, squishy 
one, but Republican none the 

1361
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,000
less. 
One of the areas I feel like we 

1362
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,200
lose is that the left comes in 
from the the angle of 

1363
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:22,160
compassion, which would be a 
very Christian value. 

1364
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:24,320
And they'll say things like, you
know that's these poor people. 

1365
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,960
I just covered it earlier about 
woman dies on the way across the

1366
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,960
border and that's why we have to
open it up. 

1367
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,000
There were three, there were two
children and a woman a 33 year 

1368
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,400
old. 
I feel like they take the agency

1369
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,680
from that, that poor woman who 
made a terrible decision, but 

1370
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:40,840
it's all about compassion and 
heartstrings and you know, it's 

1371
01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:42,400
we always called it the bleeding
heart liberal. 

1372
01:05:43,200 --> 01:05:46,560
How do you square that with a 
man who is deeply rooted in 

1373
01:05:46,560 --> 01:05:50,040
faith and now is also talking 
about we've got to fix the 

1374
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,320
border? 
When? 

1375
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:55,560
When That's the argument. 
Look I mean you're going to 

1376
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:59,680
juxtapose that always with 
what's happening after this 

1377
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,600
border problem is is unchecked, 
right. 

1378
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,880
So we're we're losing people in 
this country through the drugs 

1379
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,680
So we we can't have misplaced 
compassion. 

1380
01:06:08,680 --> 01:06:11,680
We got to have compassion yes, 
for that woman who sincerely is 

1381
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,320
seeking asylum or but we also 
have to see the result of those 

1382
01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,240
that are not seeking that that 
that asylum. 

1383
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,200
I'm not saying we don't allow 
immigrants into this country. 

1384
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,720
We we we will. 
But we got to get control of 

1385
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:25,640
this with the fentanyl, the IE 
DS that are coming in that are 

1386
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,920
blowing, they're destined to 
blow up whatever they're 

1387
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:31,480
destined to blow up the the 
human sex trafficking of the 

1388
01:06:31,480 --> 01:06:33,040
chitter. 
We saw that in police state with

1389
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,960
that US Marshall talking about 
that boy being in diapers now 

1390
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:39,360
coming in as he's being raped 
coming into this country. 

1391
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,200
So we got to have compassion but
we can't have misplaced 

1392
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:44,720
compassion. 
We do have compassion for that 

1393
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,240
that woman. 
In fact our social justice 

1394
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:49,800
teaching and our Catholic faith 
tells us that we must have 

1395
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:53,200
compassion there but we must 
also bring her in the right way 

1396
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:56,400
and and and sadly you know we're
going to have to temper that. 

1397
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,240
We're going to have to temper 
the timing of all that and and 

1398
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,920
we will help them get here, but 
we're going to have to do it the

1399
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,360
right way. 
And we can't just like, you 

1400
01:07:05,360 --> 01:07:08,280
know, just like say oh, because 
of that story or these are the 

1401
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:11,120
stories, you know, we got to 
allow the 10,000 bad actors 

1402
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:13,440
coming into this country as 
well. 

1403
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:16,680
So I think the only way to do 
that is to just stop the 

1404
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:21,400
bleeding in my opinion and then 
and then fix it, change, change 

1405
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,600
the laws if we have to, but then
and then open up the borders 

1406
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,480
again. 
And I agree with Governor Abbott

1407
01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:29,760
what he's doing in there. 
He's he's trying to protect his 

1408
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,760
people. 
So whether that's 

1409
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,680
unconstitutional or not for him,
he believes it is constitutional

1410
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:38,280
for him in the state of Texas. 
So I think it's a misplaced 

1411
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:41,800
compassion to just single out 
those random stories which are 

1412
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:45,440
true but also not but neglect 
all the other stories at the 

1413
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,320
same time. 
It has to be a totality for us 

1414
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:50,160
and I think that's the way we 
have to deal with it. 

1415
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:56,840
Do you think that you can be a 
Catholic Democrat in 2024? 

1416
01:07:58,640 --> 01:08:01,440
I think, I think they are 
diametrically opposed to each 

1417
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:02,720
other. 
And there are people who are 

1418
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:07,520
Democrats who would or who are 
pro-life, you know, and then 

1419
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:09,000
there's those that say they're 
pro-life that aren't. 

1420
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,080
But look, I think the, the 
policies in the platform are 

1421
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,880
diametrically opposed to to 
Christianity. 

1422
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:19,600
Let's just let's just put it 
that way not even Catholicism to

1423
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:25,040
to just being a Christian. 
They're they're they're not in 

1424
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,200
in conformity there. 
So I don't know how you in good 

1425
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:32,200
conscience could be a Democrat 
and call yourself a Catholic. 

1426
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,120
I I just don't know how that's 
possible because when you vote 

1427
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,840
you're voting for intrinsically 
evil things. 

1428
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,680
So if I'm a Democrat, the 
traditional Democratic policy is

1429
01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:45,920
is for abortion and and and 
woman's rights as it pertains to

1430
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,600
healthcare there, as they would 
say, then that's an 

1431
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,240
intrinsically evil thing that 
cannot be separated and your 

1432
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:55,920
choices as a Democrat 
politician, you cannot separate 

1433
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,040
that Church and state is not 
meant to keep faith out of 

1434
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,319
Congress. 
It's meant to protect the church

1435
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:07,680
from the state invading the 
worship space. 

1436
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:11,040
It's not meant to be the other 
way around like we keep church 

1437
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:13,840
out of in fact we invite church 
to inform us. 

1438
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,720
Then we had Pope Francis address
Congress when he came here in 

1439
01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:21,279
2015. 
We invite church to address our 

1440
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:24,560
political thinking and it helps 
form our conscience. 

1441
01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,479
So it's not the other way 
around. 

1442
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,600
I don't think they can be. 
I don't think you can be a 

1443
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,560
Catholic and be a Democrat in 
good conscience. 

1444
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,720
I don't disagree with you, just 
curious. 

1445
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,600
I like to, I like to ask people 
the questions. 

1446
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:36,560
You got to take hard statements 
if you're going to be others. 

1447
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:38,600
What do you think? 
What do you think about this 

1448
01:09:38,600 --> 01:09:41,520
recent sort of pushback and if 
it means anything other than 

1449
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:43,680
just a stunt? 
But our friends at Catholic Vote

1450
01:09:43,680 --> 01:09:47,319
went and and was able to get a 
Latin Mass said in the US 

1451
01:09:47,319 --> 01:09:48,800
Capitol for the first time in 
history. 

1452
01:09:48,800 --> 01:09:51,040
Obviously on the anniversary of 
that document that I pushed out,

1453
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,560
what what do you think that 
means? 

1454
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:53,640
Or it doesn't mean anything at 
all? 

1455
01:09:54,480 --> 01:09:56,800
How cool is that for you, Mike 
Johnson? 

1456
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,680
Yeah, Mike Johnson said yes to 
that. 

1457
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,080
Mike is a Catholic. 
You know, I've known Mike for 

1458
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,240
years. 
I knew him when he was a 

1459
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,200
constitutional lawyer in 
Louisiana fighting pornography. 

1460
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:09,440
And so Mike is a good man. 
He said about Christian, So he 

1461
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:11,440
said yes to that. 
I think it was a wonderful 

1462
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:13,000
thing. 
I was overjoyed at that. 

1463
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:15,840
I thought that was great. 
I mean, you bring the body of 

1464
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:19,360
Christ into that place. 
Look, his presence is now there,

1465
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:21,240
right? 
Like, not in the fullness, but 

1466
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,200
his presence is there because he
was there. 

1467
01:10:23,560 --> 01:10:26,280
And we bring our Lord in there 
as we go into the Capitol 

1468
01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,200
building as Catholics, and we 
bring our Lord. 

1469
01:10:28,440 --> 01:10:32,120
It's a Eucharistic procession in
some respects as we bring him 

1470
01:10:32,120 --> 01:10:34,320
into the world. 
So I rejoiced in that. 

1471
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,920
I thought that was great and we 
need to do more of it. 

1472
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:39,000
And on that date of that 
anniversary, I thought it was a 

1473
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:44,600
wonderful way to basically say, 
look, we support traditional 

1474
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:47,800
Roman Catholics, those with the 
support the Latin Mass. 

1475
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:51,720
And I think it was a great day 
for for the church and in 

1476
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,440
America. 
Any message of hope that you 

1477
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,440
want to share. 
We've got a lot of darkness 

1478
01:10:57,440 --> 01:10:59,040
around. 
I I feel like your your line 

1479
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,120
analogy is actually one of the 
biggest things that's been 

1480
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,440
sitting with me. 
In fact after our conversation 

1481
01:11:03,440 --> 01:11:05,960
you may not know that but it 
impacted me in a good way and I 

1482
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:08,040
walked around with that. 
I also heard people tell me that

1483
01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,720
the real men make Quiche was one
of the most memorable lines. 

1484
01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,440
For the first time that we 
talked the people walked around 

1485
01:11:13,440 --> 01:11:15,240
and I've had people tell me I go
yeah we're going to have Mark 

1486
01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:18,120
Haliband they go oh real men 
make quiche. 

1487
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,440
And I was like, that's what you 
walked away with. 

1488
01:11:20,440 --> 01:11:22,080
That's pretty funny. 
I walked. 

1489
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:24,280
I walked away. 
I mean, I I think you're not 

1490
01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:25,040
wrong. 
That's fine. 

1491
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:26,200
I'm good with it. 
I've eaten quiche, too. 

1492
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,120
My wife makes a great quiche. 
I've never made a quiche. 

1493
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:31,120
But my my skills are limited. 
But the the hope piece of it, 

1494
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,800
because I think that's the the 
thing that most people get They 

1495
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:35,640
get waylaid. 
There's an awful lot of 

1496
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:37,720
distractions and evil things 
that are happening in this world

1497
01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:40,000
and whether they happen to them,
happen to you, happen to our 

1498
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,240
families. 
You know, sometimes it's hard to

1499
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:44,080
just get up in the morning and 
just look and go like, what am I

1500
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:45,960
doing? 
And are we just going to lose 

1501
01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:47,560
this thing? 
Maybe kind of the position of 

1502
01:11:47,560 --> 01:11:48,960
hope that you come in, 
especially if you're stepping 

1503
01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:50,920
into a swampy place like 
Congress, if that's the goal. 

1504
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:55,520
Yeah, and look, one man with 
with courage is a majority, as 

1505
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,800
Andrew Jackson said. 
So we would just have to see 

1506
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,920
that the good that flows from 
one man like yourself or or 

1507
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:05,400
another man who who's willing to
step out that like yourself, 

1508
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,520
others will follow. 
And you know, look, our job 

1509
01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:13,080
isn't to fix all the problems. 
I have a men's group in 

1510
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,400
Brooklyn. 
It's kind of funny. 

1511
01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:18,280
Kingsman group in Brooklyn and 
you know, it's the only group 

1512
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,560
that we allow the F word to be 
spoken at because in Brooklyn 

1513
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:23,280
that's kind of like part of 
their language. 

1514
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:26,840
And we say, and this is I'm 
going on somewhere, somewhere 

1515
01:12:26,840 --> 01:12:29,120
with this. 
We say that you don't try to fix

1516
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,840
Brooklyn, you just pray for 
Brooklyn. 

1517
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,560
So when you wake up in the 
morning, you're not going to be 

1518
01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:36,760
able to fix every problem, but 
you can fix what, fix what is in

1519
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,960
front of you. 
And that may be the demon that 

1520
01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,880
is in front of you, the alarm 
clock 1st. 

1521
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920
And that might be, you know, the
desire to not be friendly to 

1522
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,640
your wife or the desire to be, 
you know, I don't know, 

1523
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:52,120
inappropriate with your 
children, abusive emotionally 

1524
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:54,680
and verbally to them. 
That may be the first dragon you

1525
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:57,400
slay that day. 
And then as you go to work, then

1526
01:12:57,400 --> 01:12:59,240
you take the next dragon on, 
right. 

1527
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:02,400
And so for us as Catholics and 
for me as a Catholic, you know, 

1528
01:13:02,400 --> 01:13:06,040
I kind of subscribe to what hope
John the 23rd did. 

1529
01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:08,480
Saint John the 23rd. 
You know, at the end of the day,

1530
01:13:08,480 --> 01:13:11,080
here he is, the Pope, and he 
would go before the Lord and the

1531
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,600
Tabernacle. 
He'd say, Lord, I've done the 

1532
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,560
best I can. 
It's your church. 

1533
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:18,760
And I think, you know, there's a
nice way to just kind of let go 

1534
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:24,200
and surrender and say, look, I 
turn this all over to our Lord 

1535
01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,400
and through the through Mary. 
A lot of us as Catholics, it's 

1536
01:13:27,400 --> 01:13:30,160
always through Mary and and Mary
takes it to our Lord. 

1537
01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,960
And so we, we just say, you 
know, I entrust this into your 

1538
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,200
hands, do something good with 
it. 

1539
01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,760
God right straight with crooked 
lines. 

1540
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:44,480
You know, we have a nation 
that's very much now lost in so 

1541
01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:46,040
many ways. 
We're on the brink of Scott 

1542
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:48,520
Perry, Congressman Scott Perry 
said of losing our Republic. 

1543
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:53,200
Yet in the midst of all that, 
there is still a grace that is 

1544
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,640
knowing that we have a new 
opportunity each and every day 

1545
01:13:56,960 --> 01:14:00,640
to choose life, to choose to 
protect life and defend life and

1546
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,240
the behold the dignity of the 
human person. 

1547
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:04,560
And I think at the end of the 
day, if you go a step away from 

1548
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,080
your decision, your choices you 
make, Did I uphold the dignity 

1549
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:10,760
of the human person today? 
Did I build up the Kingdom of 

1550
01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,000
God today? 
If you can say that you should 

1551
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,880
put your head on the pillow at 
night and have peace and not be 

1552
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,400
so concerned about all the 
problems going on in the world, 

1553
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:21,800
but just that problem that you 
had, as as Mother Teresa would 

1554
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,400
say, Calcutta is in your home, 
you don't need to go to Calcutta

1555
01:14:25,400 --> 01:14:28,320
to find Jesus. 
So it's in our home. 

1556
01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:32,360
It's in our workplace. 
It's in, you know the, you know,

1557
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,600
Congress, right. 
And and and if I can influence 

1558
01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,840
one person or maybe help to 
improve the life of one person, 

1559
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,200
you know, at the. 
I didn't share this with you. 

1560
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:44,760
When when after we were 
arrested, the whole world came 

1561
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:48,440
out upon us and my family in 
love and support. 

1562
01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:53,080
And one guy reached out to to me
about a month or two any cities 

1563
01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:55,680
in the heartland of America. 
And he said, I'm a lousy 

1564
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,520
Catholic but seeing what's 
happening to you is bringing me 

1565
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:01,000
back to church. 
I thought, you know what? 

1566
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:03,640
Save a soul. 
Save your own soul. 

1567
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,040
I would go through that 
punishment and persecution just 

1568
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:10,360
for that guy. 
That made it all worthwhile. 

1569
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,120
And I think at the end of the 
day, that's what we're measuring

1570
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:14,880
here. 
It's not macro. 

1571
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,880
It's got to be totally micro. 
And you know, the Saints that 

1572
01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,840
you're raising up and your four 
children and and the wife that 

1573
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:23,840
you're helping get to heaven 
like that is really at the end 

1574
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,560
of the day, the measure of 
success. 

1575
01:15:25,640 --> 01:15:28,240
You know, at the end of the day,
God's not going to judge me on 

1576
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,760
my on my judgement Day for how 
well I push forward a bill in 

1577
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,360
Congress, although that might 
influence a lot of lives. 

1578
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:38,280
He's going to say, I gave you 
your wife, I gave you those 

1579
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:40,880
children and did you tell them 
about me? 

1580
01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:44,360
Did you teach them about me? 
And ultimately, that's the my 

1581
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,880
primary judgement is in that 
realm. 

1582
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,200
And then outside that realm is 
maybe Congress, and outside that

1583
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,320
realm is my neighbors. 
But if I get that wrong that 

1584
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,480
that helped me, the person that 
God put in my life to help me 

1585
01:15:57,480 --> 01:15:59,200
get to heaven. 
And those children, they're in 

1586
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,200
my custody and I didn't teach 
them about Jesus. 

1587
01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:06,400
That God help you if that. 
If you fail in that mission, 

1588
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:07,960
that's the most important 
mission. 

1589
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,680
I love that story about the guy 
reaching out to you, because 

1590
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,520
we've had a couple of those 
people reach out. 

1591
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,560
They can go to the website, they
go to kyleseraphin.com. 

1592
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:17,080
There's a contact form there. 
And so I just get all kinds of 

1593
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:18,280
stuff. 
Some of it's mental illness and 

1594
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:20,160
that's really sad and I don't 
know what else to do about that.

1595
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,080
But people tell me about the 
Afghan surveillance teams that 

1596
01:16:22,080 --> 01:16:25,200
are following them and I go, oh 
God, you can't help that person.

1597
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:28,600
But I got I've had a number of 
people like a like a a decent 

1598
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:30,800
number of people that have said 
you know I walked away from the 

1599
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,080
church whatever their church was
or whether the Catholic Church. 

1600
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,880
And I'm taking another look at 
it because of the example that 

1601
01:16:35,920 --> 01:16:38,520
people like you or that more 
more often especially when my 

1602
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:41,560
buddy Garrett O Boyle comes on 
who is Catholic adjacent. 

1603
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:43,720
We're working on him still he's 
going to come in we're we're 

1604
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,120
going to end up winning the the 
battle there. 

1605
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,240
People don't know that but 
there's a small little advocacy 

1606
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:50,800
group happened Garrett went to 
Marquette and and that's the 

1607
01:16:50,800 --> 01:16:52,440
other thing. 
A lot of my suspendables Steve 

1608
01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:54,160
friend Catholic adjacent went to
Notre Dame. 

1609
01:16:54,440 --> 01:16:57,000
You know there's there's a piece
of that that that has existed. 

1610
01:16:57,360 --> 01:17:00,440
It's very interesting that it's 
there's a book coming out around

1611
01:17:00,440 --> 01:17:02,520
that Catholic vote put out 
that's called Catholics How 

1612
01:17:02,520 --> 01:17:06,800
Catholics Save America and some 
of it is, is by being targeted 

1613
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,920
which is very weird that the FBI
picked I just love that they 

1614
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,600
picked the wrong crew. 
They just found the wrong people

1615
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:16,800
right at the wrong time to start
going after that push and and 

1616
01:17:16,800 --> 01:17:18,840
they made an example of people 
that historically have always 

1617
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,680
kind of risen to that challenge.
Plenty of screw ups in the 

1618
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,520
church over many years, but but 
not the ideas of it. 

1619
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:25,800
I think those have always done 
really well. 

1620
01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:29,400
All right, last good question 
for you, because I just realized

1621
01:17:29,400 --> 01:17:31,840
that I'm sitting here staring at
Mount Rushmore on your hoodie. 

1622
01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:34,640
Was that a specific choice or 
was that just what you had on 

1623
01:17:34,640 --> 01:17:38,920
today? 
You know, it was an accident. 

1624
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,800
It was. 
But with God, there are no 

1625
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,120
coincidences, right? 
I mean, look here, here, we, I 

1626
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:45,840
didn't even think about it. 
In fact, when we got on, I 

1627
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:46,920
thought, oh, that's kind of 
cool. 

1628
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:52,200
Look, we have George Washington,
who, you know, here's a man who 

1629
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,400
didn't even want to serve his 
second term and said, no, I need

1630
01:17:55,400 --> 01:17:57,320
to do it for the good of 
Republic, right. 

1631
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:01,320
And then of course, you know you
have the assassinated Abraham 

1632
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,240
Lincoln. 
I it was not by design. 

1633
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,600
But I tell you, these men do 
inspire me. 

1634
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,960
And they're not perfect men. 
They're imperfect men. 

1635
01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:11,400
They're imperfect men and but 
they're transformed and they had

1636
01:18:11,400 --> 01:18:14,000
their own journey. 
And and you know, I love Teddy 

1637
01:18:14,000 --> 01:18:15,760
Roosevelt soon and the man in 
the arena. 

1638
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,640
I mean, that should be for men. 
We should, we should put that 

1639
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:21,320
right on our desk. 
And that's really our measuring 

1640
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:22,920
stick. 
You know, that man, Yeah. 

1641
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:26,240
I mean, he was shot giving a 
speech and he continued to 

1642
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:30,640
finish the speech. 
Whatever was in his pocket for 

1643
01:18:30,680 --> 01:18:32,560
saved his life. 
But he he delivered. 

1644
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,400
He let them know that he was 
shot and he continued on with 

1645
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:38,240
this. 
There's not a man's man. 

1646
01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:41,000
I don't know who is the. 
Most masculine president, you 

1647
01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:42,720
know, You know he used to do a 
thing called wolf noodling. 

1648
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,080
Are you familiar with that? 
No. 

1649
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:47,240
It's fighting wolves barehanded,
but you put on like this leather

1650
01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,720
gauntlet on your wrist so that 
they can they can bite into it 

1651
01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:51,400
and then you subdue the wolf 
with your hands. 

1652
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,800
That was something that he was 
known for doing. 

1653
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,960
You're like, wait a minute, we 
had a president that used to go 

1654
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,760
fight wolves barehanded. 
Just, you know. 

1655
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,240
Yeah, exactly. 
Great, great examples of of true

1656
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:06,840
one masculinity but to a service
right, service, service based 

1657
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:09,600
leadership. 
Which would be it'd be nice if 

1658
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:10,960
people knew that in Congress. 
Maybe you can. 

1659
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,800
Maybe that will be your your 
your life's work. 

1660
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:14,720
You didn't even know that you 
might have a bigger life's work.

1661
01:19:14,720 --> 01:19:16,760
If you can get out there and 
just teach some of them that the

1662
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,960
purpose is not for the the 
Congress to serve them, but 

1663
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:20,920
maybe that they can go back to 
what they're supposed to do. 

1664
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,880
You know, that's so important. 
It's such a good point and and I

1665
01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,280
think it needs to be said over 
and over again. 

1666
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:30,880
Look, you know this is, this is 
we're doing this because we love

1667
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,080
America. 
We're doing this because we love

1668
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:38,320
the freedoms that we have and 
and and our founding fathers 

1669
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,760
wanted citizens, normal citizens
to serve their community and 

1670
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,840
serve the state and stir serve 
their government and then be 

1671
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:51,560
done with it and and this career
politicians and the you know you

1672
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,480
got to be and you got to stick 
around for a while to get some 

1673
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:55,720
stuff done. 
I get that but you know what 

1674
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:57,800
it's it's not to become a multi 
millionaire. 

1675
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:01,760
I don't think you know politics 
is designed for that, yet 

1676
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,400
everyone that sticks around is 
is a multi millionaire. 

1677
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:08,120
So I I just don't understand 
that the love of money is the 

1678
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,360
root of all evil. 
And I'm not saying money is 

1679
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:12,080
evil. 
But when we see the type of 

1680
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:16,200
money that's done and and the 
and the way this money is is 

1681
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:20,280
dirty, this this dark money is 
is moved around just to keep 

1682
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,200
people in power. 
It becomes one of the most evil 

1683
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,400
things that that we have in our 
in our country. 

1684
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,720
And so we have to get to get in,
serve and remind people like 

1685
01:20:29,720 --> 01:20:33,360
this is our duty, this is our 
sacred duty to do this. 

1686
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,720
And it's our honor, it's our 
honor to be able to serve our 

1687
01:20:36,720 --> 01:20:39,280
people that way. 
So that's what I'm hoping for. 

1688
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:41,960
And I'm I'm hoping that it'll 
resonate with our voters in the 

1689
01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,120
first District in. 
Pai also do people have asked me

1690
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,960
if I'm like who I'm endorsing 
for anything and I I'll endorse 

1691
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,560
Steve Friend if he wants to run 
for president and I'll endorse 

1692
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:51,320
you. 
That's about it. 

1693
01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:54,720
So far it's got it's got to get 
pretty, pretty down in the weeds

1694
01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:56,720
for me to get really excited 
about any political candidates. 

1695
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:58,960
But I'm really excited that 
you've gotten in and and I 

1696
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,920
appreciate you taking on the 
burden of it which many people 

1697
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:04,000
will think you know maybe it's 
it's a popularity contest or 

1698
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:05,560
fun. 
I I'm thinking it's probably 

1699
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,560
exactly the opposite, that it 
sounds awful and and I don't 

1700
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,040
envy you for doing it, but I I 
am appreciative that you've 

1701
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:13,560
decided to take on what should 
be a real burden, and I'm sure 

1702
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,880
it is for you and your family. 
Yeah. 

1703
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,560
So look, we're going to take our
friends with us, so I'm going to

1704
01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:23,200
be calling Kyle Seraphin to come
and serve in my administration. 

1705
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,040
You're making my nightmare come 
true right now. 

1706
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:26,520
That's the worst thing that I 
can hear. 

1707
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:28,520
It sounds awful. 
It. 

1708
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:30,320
Truly does. 
But I I look forward to being 

1709
01:21:30,440 --> 01:21:33,520
like having a couple of decent 
men in in a place that could 

1710
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,840
maybe turn the tide, bring a 
little bit of point of light 

1711
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:37,000
into something has been pretty 
dark. 

1712
01:21:37,400 --> 01:21:40,120
Let's let people know where they
can follow you any, any place 

1713
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:41,920
you want to plug. 
By all means, whatever the best 

1714
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,360
place is first and then we'll 
work them out. 

1715
01:21:43,960 --> 01:21:48,200
Yeah, How for congress.com is 
the 1st place HOUCKFOR Congress 

1716
01:21:48,440 --> 01:21:51,040
and there's all our social media
connected to the campaign. 

1717
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:54,520
You can also learn more about my
ministry at the kingsmen.org and

1718
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,760
of course that's that's my full 
time job. 

1719
01:21:56,760 --> 01:22:00,320
And so, you know, Congress is 
this busy side hustle that 

1720
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,040
doesn't pay me, you know 
anything. 

1721
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:05,920
So go to thekingsmen.org if you 
want to learn more about our 

1722
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:09,160
mission there and we continue to
do that as well. 

1723
01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,320
So those those would be the the 
main ones. 

1724
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,200
I really appreciate you taking 
time out of the day. 

1725
01:22:14,200 --> 01:22:16,280
I appreciate you doing an unpaid
side hustle. 

1726
01:22:16,280 --> 01:22:18,480
I know a little bit about the 
side hustle that pays nothing. 

1727
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:21,000
I told people I was a government
transparency activist. 

1728
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:24,320
The pay is crap, but but the 
rewards are mediocre because 

1729
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:26,840
they don't usually work out for 
your favor anyway. 

1730
01:22:27,480 --> 01:22:29,360
Mark, you're good, man. 
You're good. 

1731
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,040
You're good American and you're 
great Catholic and you're great 

1732
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:33,280
example. 
So thanks so much for spending 

1733
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:35,240
time with us today. 
Well, thank you, Kyle. 

1734
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:37,440
And it's always great to be with
the Catholic Hero of the Year I.

1735
01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:38,960
Look, gonna just keep rubbing 
everything. 

1736
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,400
Another beer with you or another
opportunity to to be with you. 

1737
01:22:42,480 --> 01:22:45,240
I just want to take that raise 
that's coming off you right now 

1738
01:22:45,440 --> 01:22:48,200
and take that myself. 
We'll do that real soon, buddy. 

1739
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,720
Thanks so much for joining me. 
God bless you all right? 

1740
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,480
All right folks, that is it for 
today's Kyle Sarapich. 

1741
01:22:54,480 --> 01:22:56,080
I hope you enjoyed it as much as
I did. 

1742
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,720
I love talking to Mark. 
Such a good dude 100%. 

1743
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:02,080
And while we're talking about 
people that we love, talk about 

1744
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:03,320
the merch store. 
You guys can check out the merch

1745
01:23:03,320 --> 01:23:04,960
store. 
You can go support GOB Actual, 

1746
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,280
my buddy Garrett O'boyle. 
Check out the Dash 

1747
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:10,240
suspendables.com. 
It's the Dash suspendables.com. 

1748
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:12,400
Don't forget the Dash. 
Use the promo code, Kyle. 

1749
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:13,040
Why? 
I don't know. 

1750
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:14,720
Which is 7010%. 
It doesn't matter. 

1751
01:23:14,880 --> 01:23:16,880
You don't need to, but you're 
going to support it and you're 

1752
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,960
going to be able to find all 
kinds of interesting T-shirts, 

1753
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:20,560
like this one here. 
This is the PT shirt. 

1754
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,040
This is for doing your physical 
training or if you just want to 

1755
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:24,800
March around and have a nice 
fitting shirt. 

1756
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:26,640
Super comfortable. 
It's got the stenciled logo in 

1757
01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:28,760
the back and you can wear it 
with Ranger panties and you'll 

1758
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,160
look almost exactly like what I 
used to wear when I was active 

1759
01:23:31,160 --> 01:23:33,800
duty in the middle military 
going through all of the 

1760
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,080
training that I did. 
It looks good, even with sweat 

1761
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:38,080
on it. 
That's actually the best thing 

1762
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,200
about the PT shirt. 
We talked about those pins. 

1763
01:23:40,200 --> 01:23:41,920
You guys can see them on there. 
You can get three of those pins 

1764
01:23:41,920 --> 01:23:43,720
at the white ones. 
Mark out sporting one of them. 

1765
01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:45,600
We're going to get him one of 
the limited edition black ones 

1766
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:47,440
as well. 
But folks support Garrett 

1767
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:50,520
O'boyle and the O'boyle family 
Sweatshop at the Dash 

1768
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:54,040
suspendables.com. 
You can use the promo code Kyle 

1769
01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:56,520
to save 10%. 
That's it for the show. 

1770
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,360
Today we got a five star review 
in front of you. 

1771
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:00,720
We really appreciate you guys 
paying attention and I hope you 

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support Mark help. 
You can follow him on all the 

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Twitter pages. 
We'll throw that in the links 

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that'll be in the show 
description And until then how 

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about a five star review from 
one of our wonderful listeners 

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on the Apple podcast system. 
This is from old Medic 35 says 

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great show, five stars, 
entertaining and informative as 

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always. 
I hope that was the same, the 

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same situation you had listening
to Mark and you know even if 

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he's going to give me a hard 
time about the the Catholic hero

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thing we're going to we're going
to shame the Catholic Catholic 

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vote folks into getting it over 
there. 

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The the whole hout family won 
last year. 

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That's what it that's what it 
came down to. 

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If you guys didn't know. 
Some of you are new to that 

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story. 
Let's also let's shut it down. 

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I hope you guys have a great 
day. 

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We'll see you again tomorrow and
God bless, be safe. 

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See you soon. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

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Serafin Show, streamed live 
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