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Prepare to hear the truth from a
real whistleblower, an American 

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Patriot, here's civil liberties,
enthusiasts, Second Amendment, 

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Defender and indefinitely 
suspended. 

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FBI agent. 
Kyle seraphin. 

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Hello my friends and welcome to 
the Kyle serif and show today is

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Friday it's the 17th. 
It's been a big news day over 

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here at the Kyle 7 show and we 
are going to be joined by my 

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buddy. 
Stephen friend. 

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Steve. 
Welcome to the show for this 

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Friday afternoon. 
Thank you very much. 

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It's good to be out of District 
1 for sure. 

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You spent some of the time today
in the, in the swamp dealing 

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with sort of the Slime that 
exist there and sounds like you 

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picked up some of that swamps 
come in your nose too buddy. 

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I did man. 
That that flight to d.c. is is 

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just as germs of swirled around 
every time. 

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Yeah. 
Plus it just you know it lands 

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in like scum pocket and it takes
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It's kind of Amazing Phil and I 
spend a lot of time in DC and if

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you're not used to it then your 
immune system can't handle it. 

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You're used to Too Much freedom 
and fresh air down there in 

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Florida. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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The freedom is definitely the 
main key theater. 

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I think, I think the best view 
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out, as I told John Sullivan 
history day, that is the best 

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view of DC. 
You're leaving it like rearview 

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or underneath you on the wing of
a plane. 

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Yeah, yes. 
All right. 

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So we've got some fun access to 
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We're going to talk about things
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interesting to folks because you
went to d.c. to be deposed by 

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the new weaponization committee 
subcommittee under the house. 

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Judiciary. 
Is that correct? 

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Yes. 
Yes, it was called a transcribed

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interview, but essentially, it's
a deposition. 

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Ian. 
Okay. 

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Have you done a deposition 
before or just regular Court 

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testimony? 
No. 

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Just regular court. 
So I was, I was ready for the 

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full thing was waiting for them 
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judge, but the lawyers managed 
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without an a referee, no referee
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So what are the format look 
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Explain to people kind of what 
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maybe you know how you guys were
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it a is an adversarial or a 
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Collegian or what? 
Yeah, it was definitely. 

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Experience. 
I was not expecting it to be 

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exactly like that. 
It was a pretty large room. 

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I thought it was gonna be more 
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but they had a big table sat 
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side and then the Republican 
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congressmen actually would ask 
me questions for an hour and and

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then after an hour we take a 
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Democrats would take those 
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Directly in front of me, they 
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And and then they would ask why?
Russians it was very important. 

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They need to be directly in 
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right eye contact. 
And so we just had to share. 

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They need to share a cushion 
that had the same beer farts as 

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the people before them, I guess.
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I was like, man, I would not, I 
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you know, public toilet, just 
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I kind of like, to have my 
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you know, if you're in, d.c. 
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doesn't really matter where you 
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rotated. 
So one hour on Republicans won 

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our Democrats. 
They did that twice. 

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So both sides, got two full 
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had about 10 more minutes at the
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So the total time on Under Fire,
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or four, and a half hours. 
So Steve. 

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All right, so we got this big 
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We got people, swapping seats, 
let's get into the substance of 

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the matter. 
What kind of questions were you 

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expecting? 
And then what sort of questions 

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did you actually receive? 
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well, the Republicans were 
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committee's purpose. 
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existing. 
So they were asking me about the

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nature of my complaint that I 
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the details of it. 
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what happened in my wife's face 
book account that they had seen.

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They asked about the bureau's 
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how they said, no to getting a 
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So they were trying to portray 
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And then also, Get do me a 
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the no job. 
That's so people can know 

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because you had a kind of a 
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too. 
Right? 

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Yeah. 
Well, I had to so, yeah, you get

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walked out. 
They give you the FD 331 to seek

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outside employment. 
I got offered a position at at 

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Center for renewing America. 
I contacted the bureau filled 

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out the paperwork and on that 
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It says, if you're going to work
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coordinate with the office of 
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Okay, call that guy up. 
He told him the name of the 

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organization and he he must have
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because he was like, I think 
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because the first thing that 
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fund the FBI. 
Listen, it's a reasonable 

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position and it's a First 
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advocate for even as FBI 
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Yeah. 
Well, you would think but I did 

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they. 
I think that I do and submitted 

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it and I told them look, I need 
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Because I want to start with 
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Obviously, I'm on paid for 
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And they took it and in one 
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rejected, well you got to give 
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That's the fastest decision, the
government's ever made. 

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Oh yeah, yeah. 
And then I was also told that it

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was going to be a decision by, 
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Resources Division. 
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given to my ASAC, she they said 
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So my ASAC apparently The put 
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got to hrd. 
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executive management says this 
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and it was always a lie, it was 
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opinion but we're falling off 
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Says yeah, the front office is 
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Really these easy office talking
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Why don't we just say, Bob's 
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That's right. 
Yeah, so many euphemisms for 

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just incompetence right on every
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All right, so they denied you 
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for you clearly. 
We're going to take that and I'm

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glad you didn't. 
So you accepted the job and then

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what was the advice that you had
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accepting this job? 
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advising? 
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strategically. 
It would make more sense for me 

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to resign as an FBI agent before
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record when they do your 
initial, who are you? 

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How do you spell your name? 
Who do you work for? 

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So I could just kind of 
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for Center for renewing America 
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What do you mean? 
And I can't explain how I was 

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mr. 
Witter. 

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What are you the fellow of? 
I believe I'm a senior fellow so

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I believe your senior fellow to 
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add you? 
What? 

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Senior Fellowship you have? 
Yes, I'm advising on. 

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Domestic intelligence and 
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That's fantastic. 
It's good to know a fellow. 

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I'm not going to add senior to 
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age and so Fail by the way. 
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a fellow but I think you're a 
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I'm very glad that that is the 
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a fellow but also an author. 
World-famous author. 

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World-famous IQ him. 
You have orders coming in from 

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like, Saudi Arabia right now or 
what? 

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We'll definitely from Sputnik. 
Oh, that's true. 

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Which was brought up mind you 
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Okay. 
So carry on, keep telling me 

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more about this. 
So they're asking you questions.

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The Republicans are trying to 
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Yes. 
And and in theory, this could be

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a very easily bipartisan issue. 
I think, right? 

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Yes. 
I and even if you do not think 

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my complaint is legitimate. 
And you think that I'm either 

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crazy E person or politically 
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The best thing you could do 
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veracity of my complaint and 
then dismiss it whole cloth 

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which is what the FBI should be 
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a real investigation but like 
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Democrat side of this committee 
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its energy and resources into 
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Me not the actual nature of my 
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So there's a, there's Concept in
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there's a concept when you are 
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argument with someone that the 
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dominance which is to say 
attacking the man as opposed to 

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tacking the message when there's
an ad hominem and that becomes 

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the sole line of attack that 
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Do you feel like you already won
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And seeing that? 
They all they wanted to do is 

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discredit you? 
Yes, yes, I well and I was 

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utterly unimpressed by the 
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Oil Eagles that were sitting 
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I deep down. 
I was kind of like well these 

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guys represent Congressman, but 
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doctors in the last few years 
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So I don't know why lawyers 
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That's right, tell me more about
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with their Steely eyes in there 
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It was primarily one, but they 
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Jerry Nadler and he's an 
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He has that Little of authority.
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I see him. 
He's the closest human 

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representation to to the Penguin
from Batman Returns. 

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Yes, that the Danny DeVito, 
Danny DeVito. 

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Yeah, it's like The Flipper 
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ever seen now. 
Those hands. 

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I don't mean to be an ad hominem
attack her but it's really, 

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really hard to focus on what 
he's saying when you look at the

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fact that the man has to like 
have somebody put him into a 

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highchair to be able to speak 
like he's so small, I didn't 

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realize. 
That either. 

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But I saw him on the street with
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waddled into a car and it was 
like what a weird country we 

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live in where this utterly 
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has no sentient thoughts that 
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kind of just blathering 
partisanship and and then he 

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sent his utterly unimpressive ad
hominem attackers to come after 

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you legal, hinge, men and women 
as it were men or women, which 

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one, it was all females that did
the questioning interesting. 

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Well, that's diversity for you. 
So what other fun questions can 

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you recall? 
That would be interesting to. 

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I'm not saying other 
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this, but if they did, we 
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is America. 
And if they so chose to prepare 

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themselves, what might they 
prepare for? 

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I think they they must listen to
the Kyle Serafin. 

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Show. 
Well I know they do because they

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brought you up in the deposition
say more about this. 

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This is my new favorite topic 
continue. 

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So you know you are a part of 
the Congressional Record sir. 

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Sir. 
Oh, that's so good. 

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They are, they asked me how many
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much compensation that I receive
have you ever been compensated 

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by the Kyle Surf? 
And show our budget is pretty 

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tight in your Pearls of Wisdom 
and and tales about your 

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training agent or just the 
payment I need. 

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That's so good. 
How many appearances have you 

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made on our show? 
Do you know? 

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I asked him ate it. 
I think is probably somewhere 

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like, eight to ten. 
Maybe, I don't know. 

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It's producer. 
Phil could probably pull that 

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up. 
He could. 

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But I See, that's a safe 
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right? 
People love hearing what you 

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have to say. 
I love talking to you because 

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you're my body. 
I was talking about you, the 

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other day to somebody and I 
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never met in person, but I 
that's really hard for me to 

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wrap my head around because I 
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time. 
Yes, yes. 

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I mean you're my work wife at 
this point, right? 

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Correct. 
That's wonderful. 

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That's very embarrassing and on 
every level that's strange. 

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All right, so what other they 
brought up the cows are 5000. 

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They wanted to know if your 
Compensated. 

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That was kind of a theme. 
They want to know that you were 

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profiting off your whistle 
blowing, correct? 

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Yes, yes. 
And they they were trying to 

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hammer me much like the security
division did on your permission 

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to speak to the media, which 
seemed to be news to them. 

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Again that I had gained 
permission and then yes. 

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How much were you compensated by
Kyle Surf? 

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And how much were you 
compensated by Glenn Beck? 

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And how much as you think about 
those t-shirts that we sell? 

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Yes, that was brought up, Sir 
this day is anyone over those? 

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Shirts are one, is the FBI 
holding those t-shirts? 

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And to is anybody making money 
on this? 

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Like, do we even know where the 
money goes? 

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My mom got hers. 
My mom got hers yesterday. 

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Oh good. 
Yes. 

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Yes. 
It, which is also part of the 

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Congressional Record. 
They asked me about my 

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knowledge, about the t-shirts 
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one. 
Did you tell them? 

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You helped design it? 
Yes, I told them that, you know,

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between all of us, we have 
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shirt production business. 
That apparently takes four weeks

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to deliver one shirt. 
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And its profit margin. 
Is the low 54. 

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Sorry, the low three figures. 
Right now I think Phil what did 

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you tell me? 
We made like a hundred and 

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thirty eight dollars off this 
and it's just sitting in an 

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account somewhere that nobody 
knows about. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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It's just sitting out there in 
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collecting interest and not 
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people are afraid to order 
shirts that take we invest in 

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egg Futures with that. 
Yeah, we're going to buy some 

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egg future. 
So it's an excellent point. 

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This Administration has made 
them the strangest Things become

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Commodities. 
Probably also a vintage It's 

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about science would be really 
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from 10 years ago. 
Probably a vastly growing Market

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that The Homeschool crowd is 
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So they don't have this weird 
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not you need a penis to be a 
male newsflash, unless it got 

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cut off in a weird way, you do. 
So your buddy, your buddy, Dan 

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bungee? 
No might be a little upset with 

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the Democrat attorneys. 
They didn't know his name and 

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they were not familiar with. 
Bungee knows name it. 

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There were like dude, Ann Bain. 
Band Fun, they couldn't say it 

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and I mean, I think about full. 
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That's that's the goat right 
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I like to imagine that Dan is 
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But I actually realized I've 
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his, what his ethnic Heritage 
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sound to it. 
And he has kind of that, that, 

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that all of his skin. 
I'll tell you a funny story has 

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nothing to do with any of those.
But my wife and I went to Cancun

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for one of my friends weddings, 
which was obnoxious because we 

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actually sold our car and then 
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the car sale. 
Go on this stupid wedding, he's 

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a wonderful human being. 
He's like one of my best friends

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but still I was like a little 
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They cost me and it was a cheap 
car. 

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That's why I was like two grand 
together many years ago. 

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So we go to his wedding. 
We're walking around. 

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My wife is Italian and just gets
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She doesn't really burn, which 
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in a weird way. 
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she had darker skin at me. 
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So she's always indoors like 
dealing with babies and she 

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didn't have time so she doesn't 
get this default and also its 

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there's snow On the ground 
outside of my little trailer 

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here. 
So these people come up and they

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go oh you're such a lovely tan 
or whatever and my wife who was 

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let's say it like two or three 
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it was all you all inclusive 
resort in Cancun. 

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She walks past me and she tells 
me and she cuz they don't know 

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that. 
I'm not all white, it's like 

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what and she was like, I'm 
Italian. 

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And I was like, is that a thing?
And then we had a really 

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interesting moment, we're 
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historically in this country 
were not considered quote 

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unquote, White people until very
recently. 

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That's like a 50 year old 
concept if not younger. 

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And so anyway I always get a 
kick out of Dan. 

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Dan has the same kind of 
complexions my wife so I imagine

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that he's Italian but Italian 
names are kind of American names

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kind of like pizza and 
spaghetti. 

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I don't get it. 
Why can they not pronounce Dan's

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name? 
That seems really rude. 

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I mean, I just don't think that 
they are in the habit of 

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watching or listening to his 
world-famous podcast. 

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Well, that's why they don't know
the truth about America, right? 

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Correct or incorrect. 
They're trying to be immune from

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the facts. 
And I'm just saying I'll listen 

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to the damn Gina to share just a
couple times. 

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And I know his intro, his intro 
brings it and just saying that's

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a shame that these people don't 
want to know the facts, they 

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live in Washington, they don't 
want it. 

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So any any hits that they 
scored, they feel like maybe 

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they got some chalk on their 
side of the win column or no, I 

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really don't think so. 
I felt pretty much in control 

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the whole time. 
You know, it's one of these 

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situations where I was like what
they could be the world's 

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greatest interrogator or lawyer,
but a few of the facts on your 

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side. 
Then there's not a whole lot, 

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they can do with it and it. 
The truth. 

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He tried to hit me with the, the
January 6th, folks, the being a 

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sympathizer with, you know, a 3%
or proud boy or an oath keeper 

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or something like that. 
They tried to hint at that. 

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But, you know, I like it on my 
lawyers going in the whole gist 

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of my complaint was always the 
process problems with it. 

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Like, look if we violate 
people's rights, it doesn't 

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matter what they do. 
And actually it's worse because 

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you might let somebody Buddy, 
who should be in jail all out or

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lose on appeal because you 
didn't follow the process. 

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And there was a point there 
where they kind of describe one 

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of the one of the guys who was 
on the arrest operation that I 

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didn't participate in. 
That's brought about my entire 

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suspension and they're like, 
what do you think of this guy's 

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is get up and I just had that. 
Boyd said, he looks like a 

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really bad guy. 
He, he should probably go to 

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jail for the bad things. 
He did, had to be really a shame

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to lose on appeal because we 
violated his civil rights. 

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Right. 
And they provide, all right, 

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we're moving on to the next 
topic. 

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Yeah, that's called. 
I just said the thing that 

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everybody would say about this 
because Law Enforcement Officers

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tend to defend Law Enforcement 
Officers when the officers are 

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in the right and when they're 
not in the right then we care 

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about the process. 
So I did a podcast. 

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It's a couple days ago and 
people can see that it's called.

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The government has no interest 
in the outcome and and that's 

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essentially what you're saying. 
I don't know if you were on the 

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stage this space with Bill 
Shipley the other day 

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Shipwrecked crew. 
But yeah I'm statement which I 

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thought was profound is That the
FBI and the doj do not have an 

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interest in the outcome of 
criminal prosecutions. 

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At least they're not, they're 
not supposed to their job is to 

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be pure of process and let the 
justice system, which is also 

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the other half. 
The adversarial half, which is 

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the defense. 
And also, the jury is supposed 

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to make their own decisions. 
We're weighing in on the scales 

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in a weird way and I think you 
just said it perfectly. 

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It's like, it doesn't matter. 
We just go get the facts. 

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We don't get paid anymore. 
Did you ever get like a bonus 

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for getting a conviction? 
No, no. 

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No bonuses for convictions. 
And the only bonuses I got were 

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recently for working child 
pornography, which they took me 

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off of, to work, of course, j6 
cases, which congressman Gates 

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was, was wise to bring up and 
discuss with me. 

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So we he was there and as it was
Dan Bishop, so I was, I was 

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pretty happy with that because 
Congress is on recess this week.

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So those guys were enough away 
from home volved in in this 

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select committee that they came 
back early to participate. 

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It in this deposition with me. 
Which I thought bodes well for 

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you know how serious they are 
taking it that's good. 

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I am glad that they had actual 
members of Congress coming in to

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ask you questions that it shows 
a certain amount of respect for 

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the information that you 
brought. 

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So that's helpful. 
You do you think that there was 

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a reason why you were a 
transcribed interview, a 

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deposition type as opposed to 
being in front of the cameras. 

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The way our friend FBI Miami 
Barbie was out there and Did you

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by chance if you cry. 
When you mention any of the 

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cases you worked on? 
No, I didn't cry, but I did 

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brief them up on the operation 
that went badly in Miami for the

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child pornography raid where 
they had the two agents get 

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killed. 
Yeah. 

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Tell me what, you know about 
that because I know a little bit

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about as well for my friends 
there. 

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Yeah. 
The the guy who was actually 

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supervising the time I had 
across past with him on a joint 

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operation that he did up in my 
area and you know offline kind 

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of had this. 
Discussion with them and he 

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filled me in on some of the 
details of it. 

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And basically, he was supposed 
to be in charge that day, but he

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had had the night before a hands
on offense, that he got involved

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with investigating and the 
victim of that tested positive 

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for covid. 
So he was not allowed to come to

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the operation the next day. 
So they were sort of without 

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their regular supervisor and 
then it was kind of this 

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hodgepodge of of agents that Guy
brought in. 

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He said, look, they're all good 
people but it wasn't our regular

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routine. 
And then they made the mistake 

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of sort, of negotiating at the 
door with this guy as opposed to

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being more kinetic in their 
action and they were negotiating

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in front of a window. 
Yes. 

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And and and then, the one part, 
I don't know if you heard this 

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about the local law enforcement.
Well they claim to be local law 

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enforcement but they're wearing 
FBI placards and he had camera 

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showing who they were no, no 
there. 

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What they had local PD, they're 
on the perimeter and I guess he 

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so he told me that they've gone 
back and watched the body. 

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Camera and the officers are 
saying to each other. 

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That's the FBI's fight. 
We're not getting involved in 

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that and stayed back when there 
was shooting. 

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Yes, that's ugly. 
So, the other thing that's 

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really gross to, and this is the
saddest thing for me, because I 

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worked SOG as, you know, and so 
did Phil, and SOG is good for 

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the things that it's good for 
the, the surveillance units are 

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very good at knowing when people
go places, especially when they 

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develop a pattern and this guy 
had a pattern of leaving his 

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house. 
So folks, I'm digging deep into 

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this thing's just for a moment, 
but he get a pattern of leaving 

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his house. 
Run 8 a.m. or 9 a.m. it, doesn't

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matter what it was. 
It was some regular time in the 

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morning and he walked to work. 
He went on foot and they could 

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have easily grabbed him when he 
came out. 

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But instead the FBI insisted on 
this sort of procedural 

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stupidity that we do, which is 
that every search warrant has to

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be served at 06:00 by banging on
a door. 

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00:21:45,500 --> 00:21:47,600
And then either try to talk 
people out or banging the door 

455
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:53,300
down with the ram but really it 
is a place for being a little 

456
00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:55,300
bit more intelligent about it 
and I think that was kind of one

457
00:21:55,300 --> 00:21:57,000
of the arguments that you made 
that you're supposed to use the 

458
00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,400
right arrest tool. 
Tool for the right subject and 

459
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,400
sometimes that's a summons and 
sometimes it's just, you know, a

460
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,300
knock and talk and sometimes if 
it's a break the door down at 6 

461
00:22:06,300 --> 00:22:08,200
a.m. and sometimes it's a 
surveillance, interdiction where

462
00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:10,600
you grab somebody in the open. 
Yeah. 

463
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:14,100
And and there's no need to use 
an elephant gun to kill a mouse.

464
00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,000
That's that's what I keep saying
to media. 

465
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,400
And I might have used that 
actually in the, in the 

466
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,500
deposition, but as far as just 
being having to do a deposition,

467
00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:27,400
first being as charitable as I 
can to that consideration, I 

468
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:31,900
think that that Nicole Parker 
wasn't going to be offering a 

469
00:22:31,900 --> 00:22:34,900
lot of concrete information, so 
maybe she wasn't going to be 

470
00:22:34,900 --> 00:22:38,800
hammered so much by the minority
and they kind of wanted to flush

471
00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:41,000
out with the material. 
I was prepared to bring to the 

472
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,900
table and see and they don't 
know me, they don't know if I'm 

473
00:22:43,900 --> 00:22:45,600
going to be when these guys 
that, you know, gets up and 

474
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,500
starts screaming and flip the 
table over and how I'm going to 

475
00:22:47,508 --> 00:22:51,300
react to anything adversarial. 
So maybe there's a little bit of

476
00:22:51,300 --> 00:22:53,900
preparation. 
But I'm hoping that, you know, 

477
00:22:53,900 --> 00:22:56,300
what Garrett told them, what 
George told me, what I told them

478
00:22:56,500 --> 00:22:59,300
that they see, like, we have the
goods here. 

479
00:22:59,300 --> 00:23:02,400
It's not just appeal to emotion 
with tears and talk about the 

480
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,600
good old days and no, that's, 
that's really the piece to it 

481
00:23:05,608 --> 00:23:07,800
has nothing to do with emotion 
as nothing to apologetics and 

482
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:11,100
least not for me. 
I actually just tweeted out a 

483
00:23:11,108 --> 00:23:13,200
piece by got it, do you know 
Trevor Aaronson as are you 

484
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,200
familiar with him? 
That sounds familiar. 

485
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,800
So he wrote a book called the 
terror factory that actually 

486
00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:20,800
feel recommended to me. 
Yes, early on and left me 

487
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,500
though. 
He's a lefty. 

488
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,300
Hmm, and he's got problems with 
the FBI to, as you should when 

489
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:27,600
the FBI does things, which is 
like manufacturing terrorism 

490
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,700
cases and I don't care if 
they're going after people. 

491
00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,100
I don't agree with the BLM 
premises and yet, I think you 

492
00:23:34,100 --> 00:23:37,200
would agree that if BLM people 
are doing violence, then they 

493
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,600
should be stopped. 
And if they are just protesting,

494
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,700
Should be allowed to protest. 
That's what you and I swore to 

495
00:23:42,700 --> 00:23:45,100
do to protect that, right? 
Mhm. 

496
00:23:45,500 --> 00:23:47,800
Yeah, and so anyway, he wrote a 
book, he wrote a big paper about

497
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,100
how antifa and BLM were 
basically infiltrated by FBI. 

498
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:53,600
In Denver. 
It's in my Twitter feed if 

499
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,100
people want to go find it but he
has a new podcast. 

500
00:23:56,100 --> 00:23:59,100
It's a 10 part series called the
alphabet boys talking about 

501
00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:04,000
paying this like violent felon 
to infiltrate as a CHS into BLM 

502
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,700
stuff in Denver. 
It's totally bizarre but it's 

503
00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:08,600
not a partisan issue. 
The FBI sucks. 

504
00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,700
But did they different Some 
people's rights. 

505
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,700
Yeah, it's right down the 
middle, I would think. 

506
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:17,000
And this has to come out in the 
actual televised hearings. 

507
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:20,600
And the reason it's probably 
more important that it comes out

508
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600
for these hearings as opposed to
January 6 hearings is that was 

509
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,100
complete appeal to emotion. 
The people that were emotionally

510
00:24:27,100 --> 00:24:29,400
invested in the January 6 
committee hearings. 

511
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,500
There was other people there 
watching it every day, for hours

512
00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,700
and hours and hours. 
There was an eleven of them 

513
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,200
Nationwide. 
I think it was the entire CNN, 

514
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,800
viewbot, it was, at least a 
dozen, at least it was slightly.

515
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,500
Than the Kyle Serafin, show 
audience, but I think, I think 

516
00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:45,700
people have a limited bandwidth 
for keeping up. 

517
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:47,700
They don't want to watch this 
thing for two years, but if you 

518
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:49,900
bring something like, you've 
been bringing out on Twitter and

519
00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:53,400
you see how people get fired up 
and now how, you know, you got a

520
00:24:53,408 --> 00:24:57,000
bleeder on your little pocket 
knife slash at the Godzilla, you

521
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,600
love any kind of that too. 
It's such a good such a good 

522
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:05,400
visual and we can do that and we
can do that with Witnesses and 

523
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,800
people will then, you know, they
don't, they have to tune in for 

524
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,800
hours and watch, you know them, 
go back and forth. 

525
00:25:09,900 --> 00:25:13,300
With and virtue signal and try 
to get campaign ads for YouTube,

526
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,400
but the information can get 
pushed out in a more digestible 

527
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:22,100
format and then that'll get the 
voters and the public at large 

528
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:26,500
fired up and I think ultimately 
it's building an Arsenal for 

529
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:30,600
next for this fall where there's
going to be this budget 

530
00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:34,400
negotiation where they can say. 
Well look FBI, your budget is 

531
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:39,700
cut significantly and you can't 
use these funds for x y and z. 

532
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:44,000
Domestic intelligence probably 
being X y&z, it should be for 

533
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,700
sure. 
Did your experience being 

534
00:25:46,700 --> 00:25:49,000
interviewed? 
Therefore, this this transcribe 

535
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:52,200
interviewed to that give you 
more or less hope and what the 

536
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:56,400
committee's doing? 
Jerry's out. 

537
00:25:56,400 --> 00:26:01,300
But I was very encouraged by 
having having Gates and Bishop 

538
00:26:01,300 --> 00:26:04,000
there because you know, 
obviously they didn't have to 

539
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,800
be, they could have said staff 
and it wasn't just there were 

540
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,100
there for moral support to shake
my hand or you know, get a 

541
00:26:09,108 --> 00:26:11,800
picture or something. 
I like they had questions 

542
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:15,100
prepared ahead of time. 
They done their homework, but I 

543
00:26:15,108 --> 00:26:17,800
mostly something about rhetoric.
Do you mind kind of relating 

544
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,900
that I remember you telling me 
about Jason that? 

545
00:26:19,900 --> 00:26:21,800
It sounded funny. 
That's probably his story for 

546
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,700
people. 
He's, yeah, he's an attorney. 

547
00:26:23,700 --> 00:26:28,600
So he, we were talking about my 
sick, security division, 

548
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,200
interview and how widely accused
me of inciting violence with my 

549
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,100
column about the Soper. 
Folks, if you haven't heard this

550
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:41,300
interview, go back and listen to
the SEC D experience, is that 

551
00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,100
what we called it? 
Phil But we caught something 

552
00:26:44,100 --> 00:26:45,700
else. 
Yeah, I think you've thought 

553
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:47,300
about calling it something like 
suck my D. 

554
00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:50,200
I think which is terrible, but 
but I think we called it the SEC

555
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,400
D experience and so anyway, good
looks of that if you want to 

556
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,500
hear what Steve have when he was
interrogated by The Bureau and 

557
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,700
how he got the best of some of 
these clowns that apparently 

558
00:26:56,700 --> 00:26:58,700
English is a second or third 
language. 

559
00:26:59,400 --> 00:26:59,900
Yeah. 
All right. 

560
00:26:59,900 --> 00:27:02,800
So that's, that's the reference 
that were talking about which he

561
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,800
either heard the Kyle Serafin. 
Show. 

562
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:09,100
Or how do you think, you know, I
was talking about how the bureau

563
00:27:09,100 --> 00:27:12,300
is sort of weaponized against 
whistleblowers and how I'd go. 

564
00:27:12,500 --> 00:27:15,500
Into this security division 
interview and it was absurd. 

565
00:27:15,500 --> 00:27:18,900
And I said, look, I wrote a 
column, I didn't get paid for 

566
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:22,400
it. 
Democrats, and in this column of

567
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,500
there was a quote that said, 
this is a rhetorical Call to 

568
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:28,600
Arms for my fellow civil 
servants and SEC. 

569
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,700
D said that I was inciting 
Violence by using the phrase 

570
00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:35,900
Call to Arms. 
And Congressman Gates looked at 

571
00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:39,000
me deadpan and said, we're you 
calling for violence? 

572
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,300
And I said, no, that's why I use
the word rhetorical. 

573
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,300
He responded because the 
rhetorical means words right? 

574
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:50,600
At the City Assessor it does. 
And we just moved on to the next

575
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,300
topic. 
Did he laugh at all? 

576
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:57,100
Yeah, he left at that and they 
laughed at the fact that I had a

577
00:27:57,100 --> 00:28:01,200
tsse, i clearance to go into a 
skiff and turn the alarm off 

578
00:28:02,100 --> 00:28:05,400
that came up to so yes you just 
repeated the SEC D experience, 

579
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,900
but you did it with ad hominem 
attacks from different people. 

580
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:13,100
This time I did it with the 
benefit of having a Had an after

581
00:28:13,100 --> 00:28:16,200
action review on the Kyle 
Serafin show where I could snark

582
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:21,100
it up even more. 
That's a true, it's so good. 

583
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,100
So that's fun. 
What are the things we would you

584
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:27,200
expose about? 
Or would you like people to know

585
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,300
about the experience and then 
we'll move on to how you've been

586
00:28:29,300 --> 00:28:31,000
living? 
Well, with a private Chef for 

587
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,500
the last, like, 48 hours or 
something. 

588
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:34,400
Yeah, man, it was like, dinosaur
eggs. 

589
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:38,300
Like you said that is her exams?
Did you need an Entourage? 

590
00:28:38,300 --> 00:28:40,100
If you're gonna have dinosaur 
egg, like, what was that? 

591
00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:41,400
Those are Chappelle Show, wasn't
it, right? 

592
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,800
Is that Its egg. 
I'm gonna, hey, I've got it's so

593
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:46,700
bad. 
Laughing are, you can always, 

594
00:28:46,700 --> 00:28:50,000
it's been fossilized and he had 
that like horrible T-Rex omelet 

595
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
or whatever. 
That's so kesari. 

596
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:57,500
Good, we're getting sidetracked.
Here you yeah, wrap up with what

597
00:28:57,500 --> 00:29:00,400
I was able to. 
I was very happy to introduce 

598
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:04,600
the last column that I wrote 
that that information about the 

599
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,400
the IPM, the integrated program 
management, the field office, 

600
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:10,200
strategic planning, and the 
threat review, prioritization 

601
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,300
trp, this is what you call 
Moneyball. 

602
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,900
Crime. 
Correct Moneyball and Minority 

603
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,000
Report combined. 
Yeah. 

604
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:21,400
And explain to those guys just 
in real surface level how they 

605
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,800
set these ridiculous metrics and
these are things that George 

606
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,900
Hill talked about in a prior 
episode with you. 

607
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,600
Yeah. 
And and and how then it kind of 

608
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,000
interferes even with the the 
tempo of our work. 

609
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,900
If it's right just work and how,
you know, you have a delay in 

610
00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:36,600
dieting, a subject because we 
need those numbers in the next 

611
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:39,000
fiscal year. 
So wait a couple months and when

612
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,300
I said that I thought their 
heads were going to explode. 

613
00:29:41,300 --> 00:29:45,000
So It's a really important thing
that I think that this committee

614
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,900
needs to look into. 
I think a lot of problems are 

615
00:29:46,900 --> 00:29:49,700
Downstream from that and it's 
obviously tied to the SES 

616
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:53,700
compensation and and you have to
generate all these Intel will 

617
00:29:53,700 --> 00:29:56,900
products, certain quantity and 
them, which is how we get to the

618
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,000
radical traditional Catholics 
being pushed out, maybe one of 

619
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,900
the motivating factors thermal 
exhaust Port. 

620
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:04,000
Yep. 
Yep. 

621
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:09,300
So brought that forward and and 
then quickly departed and flew 

622
00:30:09,300 --> 00:30:12,300
back to Florida because I had to
speak at a panel. 

623
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,100
Agent last night it with the 
Palm Beach Republican Club. 

624
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,000
With one of my fellow colleagues
from Center for renewing 

625
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,800
America. 
Another fellow. 

626
00:30:22,700 --> 00:30:26,200
No jet is Jeff Clark. 
He's in more of an executive 

627
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:31,200
role he was the, he was former 
Department of Justice was 

628
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,900
actually in line to take over as
acting attorney general when 

629
00:30:34,900 --> 00:30:38,900
Bill bar or resigned. 
And and as he was explaining 

630
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:41,100
last night, you know, he's kind 
of gotten the Roger stone 

631
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:45,400
treatment and For having looked 
at some election, malfeasance it

632
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,700
happen in 2020 and walk outside 
in his underwear for a search 

633
00:30:48,700 --> 00:30:52,300
warrant, which oig executed, I 
don't good. 

634
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:55,300
Yeah, he said they were 1811 
said they were armed and they 

635
00:30:55,300 --> 00:30:58,100
brought they brought local PD 
with them because they wanted 

636
00:30:58,100 --> 00:30:59,400
the body. 
Cam footage of him in his 

637
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,300
underwear outside of his house. 
That's thoughtful. 

638
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,200
Yep, I'm going to start sleeping
in no underwear. 

639
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,200
Then that's gonna be my move 
with a holster though, right? 

640
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,000
Yeah obviously we're not for not
getting ridiculous. 

641
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:18,700
The leg rig will be ridiculous. 
So I want to, I want to point 

642
00:31:18,700 --> 00:31:20,900
out something that I think, I 
think you'll agree with, but I 

643
00:31:20,908 --> 00:31:23,300
don't know for a fact. 
And so we're going to just kind 

644
00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:26,000
of dive into this for a second. 
The FBI suspended you 

645
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,100
indefinitely without pay. 
They suspended me indefinitely 

646
00:31:28,100 --> 00:31:30,400
without pay they did. 
So, without any regard to 

647
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,500
whatever we brought to the table
in the investigative sphere, you

648
00:31:34,500 --> 00:31:36,800
know, they didn't size up. 
The opponents, say these are 

649
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:37,800
people that were willing to 
cross. 

650
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,400
They just said these people are 
conscientious objectors to fill 

651
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:42,300
in the blank policy. 
So we're going to crush them. 

652
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,700
Do you think that they had any 
idea that we were going to get 

653
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:49,000
involved in what we're doing 
right now and come after them 

654
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,700
the way that we have not a 
chance? 

655
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:56,400
There's no way then they did not
anticipate that shelving us. 

656
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,000
What? 
Actually unleashes. 

657
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,000
I think that they're just really
used to using this security 

658
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,700
clearance process and then they 
just lean on people. 

659
00:32:04,700 --> 00:32:07,800
And and I don't think we're 
unique within the bureau, I 

660
00:32:07,808 --> 00:32:11,000
think we're probably more unique
within the general public and 

661
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,600
being people they're sort of 
Proof financially when we didn't

662
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,300
have to work beholden to having 
to leave immediately and then 

663
00:32:19,300 --> 00:32:23,400
and just being unafraid to speak
back and say, look, he'll step 

664
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,600
to me, man. 
That's, you know, that's just 

665
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,000
not going to be a problem for 
me. 

666
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200
That should be the standard, but
it's not. 

667
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,000
I'm going to, I want to dig into
that even a little bit further 

668
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,300
because I think there's 
something really interesting 

669
00:32:34,300 --> 00:32:36,900
about that and I agree with you,
by the way, I think it's the 

670
00:32:36,900 --> 00:32:38,100
thing. 
I told you the first day that we

671
00:32:38,100 --> 00:32:40,800
spoke the first day that you the
day, after you went public and 

672
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,300
our your name was sort of 
released on top. 

673
00:32:42,500 --> 00:32:45,400
And ran a Divine and all that. 
And I just said, you know, pick 

674
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,500
the door and I'll go through it 
with you and and I still feel 

675
00:32:48,500 --> 00:32:50,200
that way which is a nice thing 
to feel. 

676
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:54,000
After a couple of months of this
sort of protracted information 

677
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:58,500
war, did you feel like you had a
strong Mastery of the Faust of 

678
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,200
the, the integrated threat 
Management program of any of 

679
00:33:01,208 --> 00:33:05,400
these metric based sort of 
things before you left the FBI 

680
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,600
as a suspend e? 
No, no ice at to the process as 

681
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,700
an acting boss one time. 
Time. 

682
00:33:12,900 --> 00:33:16,400
And I keep saying it was like 
being on Cancun for spring 

683
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:17,500
break. 
When you have like three years 

684
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:20,300
of high school Spanish. 
I understood like every eighth 

685
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:24,800
word but I was able to develop a
greater understanding because of

686
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,800
the network that we have 
information out to people that 

687
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,500
are still on the inside, who 
have been doing it for years and

688
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:34,800
know the problems of it, and 
they schooled me up and Scooby 

689
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,500
up in a way that I could then 
School up the congressman. 

690
00:33:37,500 --> 00:33:41,900
So we're talking what, second, 
third grade level, right? 

691
00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:43,700
Well, the thing. 
That I'm getting at about this 

692
00:33:43,700 --> 00:33:46,200
in particular is that they like 
you said, they did, they thought

693
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,200
they were, they were putting us 
out to pasture. 

694
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,700
And what they did is they just 
unleash us to do the thing that 

695
00:33:50,700 --> 00:33:53,500
we do, which is go find 
problems, identify them and then

696
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:57,000
articulate them in a way that is
legally responsible. 

697
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,200
And moreover is going to be 
something that is potentially 

698
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:02,600
prosecutable. 
And so, in this case, they gave 

699
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:04,900
you license to go learn about 
something that you would have 

700
00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:07,600
never been interested in. 
If you had a million years in 

701
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,000
the bureau and yet on the 
outside of it, it's like, well, 

702
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,100
that's one of the reasons is 
broken. 

703
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,199
So you became At least a 
functional explainer. 

704
00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:17,500
If not an expert on it to be 
able to relay that message. 

705
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:22,000
Do you like how ironic is that? 
What do you think about the fact

706
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:23,500
that we would have never done 
this without that? 

707
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,500
Exactly. 
I mean and think about where you

708
00:34:26,500 --> 00:34:29,400
were all you want to do is 
investigate Indian Reservation, 

709
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,300
crimes. 
They tell you to just forgot 

710
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:33,300
about you that like, how many 
people want to do Indian 

711
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:35,600
reservations. 
I was doing child pornography 

712
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:39,500
like just leave me alone. 
That's all I ever wanted and 

713
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:44,100
instead was no you must you 
know, Must wear the ribbon like 

714
00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:45,699
the Seinfeld show. 
It's the Seinfeld. 

715
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:47,300
Yeah. 
Why won't you wear the ribbon? 

716
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,199
Yeah, Dave, I won't. 
You wear it one of us. 

717
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,800
I mean, that was my ASAC, you 
know, she just couldn't 

718
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:01,800
comprehend the fact that in her 
24 years, nobody had Ever Raised

719
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,300
their hand. 
And said, what are we the bad 

720
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:06,800
guys here? 
No no self-reflection 

721
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,400
whatsoever. 
I'm going to I'm going to go on 

722
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,600
that field. 
You have the the Twitter page is

723
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,800
that PIN And just a thumbs up on
that one. 

724
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:15,500
Yeah. 
Do you mind pulling up? 

725
00:35:15,900 --> 00:35:17,700
Do you mind pulling at the tweet
that I had? 

726
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,700
That showed the the frou-frou, 
whatever the heck that thing 

727
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:24,600
was, it's got it. 
So this was about two hours ago.

728
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,400
Looks like it was the the 
production. 

729
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:30,500
What is the heck is this thing? 
It's called the Production 

730
00:35:30,500 --> 00:35:33,600
Services Unit. 
This is the unit Chief, who is a

731
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,100
headquarters position? 
Responsible for intelligence 

732
00:35:36,100 --> 00:35:39,000
products, we revealed our 
intelligence product last week, 

733
00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:40,600
which you're familiar with 
Steve. 

734
00:35:40,700 --> 00:35:44,700
And this individual Created a 
like kind of like a pro tip. 

735
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:46,800
It's the tip of the week, the 
tip of the week, at the end of 

736
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,200
the week and it's in this cutesy
font, right? 

737
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,400
Phil if you could throw that 
sucker up, it says, always 

738
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,000
consider all available sourcing 
relevant to the intelligence 

739
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,200
question. 
And rigorously examine its 

740
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,500
quality and credibility. 
Dude, you're thinking I was 

741
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:00,700
going to go. 
Do the boys weren't you? 

742
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,800
Yeah, hold on. 
Let me, let me finish describe 

743
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,900
sourcing to the readers, so they
can understand the evidentiary 

744
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:12,200
base of the products assessment.
So I I upgraded some of my cape.

745
00:36:12,300 --> 00:36:13,000
Abilities. 
Folks. 

746
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,000
As you can see and hear and that
this not for the better, it's 

747
00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:18,300
just for my own amusement and 
most it makes T laughs. 

748
00:36:18,300 --> 00:36:19,800
So I mean there's a whole bunch 
of minute. 

749
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,000
Elmo is the best. 
Yeah, it's what is it called? 

750
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,100
Effeminate Alvin Alvin. 
Yeah, the Chipmunk correct. 

751
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,200
So I'll read some of these 
questions that are in here. 

752
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:30,600
We treated these out. 
If you wanna go to the Twitter 

753
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,900
page and actually see what the 
FBI publishes on this, like 

754
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:36,300
stationary style, document is 
all pink sand and script and 

755
00:36:36,300 --> 00:36:38,000
things like that. 
It's going to allow all sitting.

756
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,900
I used to be indecisive but now 
not so okay. 

757
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:42,100
So let's read some more of these
by the way, I don't know if it's

758
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,000
Male or female that runs this 
unit. 

759
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:49,500
But based on the effeminate and 
feminine, you know, whatever it 

760
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:52,200
is like letterhead. 
I'm going to just do the, the 

761
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,500
voice that irritates me because 
this is how it sounds in my 

762
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:56,400
head. 
So this is how it sounds in my 

763
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:57,900
head. 
I hope it's offensive to people 

764
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:01,000
at the FBI who were dumb enough 
to unleash Kyle, and Steve on 

765
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:03,000
themselves. 
And now they have to deal with. 

766
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,700
Like, basically, to delegate 
said guys, with pocket knives, 

767
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:09,300
fighting Godzilla, or more 
likely like Wolverine little 

768
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,100
Wolverines, it's like snarling 
at a giant animal and just like 

769
00:37:12,100 --> 00:37:14,600
ripping Being at their ankles. 
So here we go I'm going to read 

770
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,200
the questions that you should 
consider when you're writing a 

771
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,600
First Amendment. 
Violating document about whether

772
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,700
or not Catholics are actually 
white supremacist. 

773
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,300
Is it consistent with or does it
conflict with other evidence? 

774
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:31,300
Is it circular reporting. 
But circular reporting is a 

775
00:37:31,308 --> 00:37:35,300
reporting, a report to itself. 
Is it a single outlier from your

776
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:37,800
other information? 
Is it sort by the pups, the 

777
00:37:37,900 --> 00:37:41,600
Southern Poverty Law Center is 
it, is it recent? 

778
00:37:41,700 --> 00:37:44,600
Is it real? 
Is a source access direct or is 

779
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,600
it just a gripping organization 
that is tried to raise money 

780
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,000
based on that being a fake? 
A triggered I had the source 

781
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,700
been evaluated or is it the 
Southern Poverty Law Center in 

782
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:56,800
the Atlantic? 
I'm admitting and what is the 

783
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,500
bias of the source? 
What is my bias, am I buy it? 

784
00:37:59,500 --> 00:38:02,600
Do I hate Catholics for some 
reason even though I went to a 

785
00:38:02,607 --> 00:38:07,200
Jesuit school and my back high 
and is there an intent to 

786
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,300
influence the US government? 
Am I trying to influence us 

787
00:38:10,300 --> 00:38:13,200
government do I think I am The 
US government. 

788
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,100
What types of denial or 
deception? 

789
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:18,800
May be at work? 
Anyway, um, so that's ridiculous

790
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:23,300
but that's what I that's what 
this person sent out and didn't 

791
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:24,700
sign it by name. 
I don't know if it's a normal 

792
00:38:24,700 --> 00:38:28,700
thing now, but see, a Parsons 
pretty weak stuff there from the

793
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,200
announced production and 
intelligent management branch in

794
00:38:31,207 --> 00:38:34,300
the director of intelligence in 
the intelligence production 

795
00:38:34,300 --> 00:38:37,300
section. 
That is the Production Services 

796
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,500
Unit Chief. 
We have so many dumb names in 

797
00:38:41,500 --> 00:38:43,700
the FBI as Found out when you 
went to the office of the 

798
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:45,900
integrity and applies to find 
out whether or not you get a job

799
00:38:45,900 --> 00:38:47,700
which had nothing to do with any
of those things as far as I can 

800
00:38:47,700 --> 00:38:53,600
tell and well done. 
So sorry, how are you feeling 

801
00:38:53,900 --> 00:39:00,100
about being a fellow being you 
resigned from the FBI and being 

802
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:04,100
a guy who is no longer Shackled 
and is now literally paid to go 

803
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:08,600
and disrupt FBI malfeasance. 
How does that feel it felt good.

804
00:39:08,700 --> 00:39:11,200
It was something that I pointed 
out last night in my remarks, I 

805
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,600
was like, you know, It reminds 
me of Romans 8:28, all things 

806
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,800
work for the glory of God and 
those called, according to his 

807
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,000
purpose, I was being 
investigated by the 

808
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,100
investigators at the FBI and 
because of all these 

809
00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:28,000
circumstances I am now 
investigating the investigators 

810
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,800
who are investigating me. 
Has I Aid in the this select 

811
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,700
committee and hopefully bring 
about some real reform, so it 

812
00:39:34,700 --> 00:39:39,000
felt good to get that out and 
not have that. 

813
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:40,500
That pressure. 
You landed on me. 

814
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:43,100
Let me show you my attorneys 
were like, well, At this point, 

815
00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:45,100
you can't even put anything past
the FBI. 

816
00:39:45,100 --> 00:39:47,000
What's to stop them from? 
Showing up at your house with a 

817
00:39:47,008 --> 00:39:50,600
search warrant for some 
contrived criminal violation. 

818
00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,500
And I will note that the 
Inspection Division upon 

819
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,300
learning of my resignation. 
Within a few hours sent me an 

820
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:58,900
email. 
Inviting me to still voluntarily

821
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,200
come in and do an interview 
with. 

822
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,700
Are you thinking about doing 
that for sport or? 

823
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:08,500
No, no, no. 
I told them, no, but I'm also 

824
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:12,100
still waiting on my my training 
records and I heard back today. 

825
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:16,200
Day, sure the FBI that even 
though I filled out the 

826
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:19,800
paperwork to authorize the 
release of my training records. 

827
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:24,900
To me that I need to have my 
attorneys authorized so they can

828
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:27,400
release it to my attorney since 
I'm represented by an attorney. 

829
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,600
They have to to go through it 
that way, I had the same thing 

830
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,200
from the Equal Opportunity 
people, they told me that even 

831
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,000
though I wrote them in writing 
that you can send us and I see 

832
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,400
see my attorney. 
Please respond with the 

833
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:43,600
information. 
They said, No, we can't do that 

834
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,600
because you need to fill out our
dumb form, and you have to print

835
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:49,200
it and then sign it, and then 
scan it and then send it back to

836
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:50,800
us. 
And I just said, just send it to

837
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:51,700
me. 
I'll send it to him. 

838
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:56,100
I don't need you. 
You clowns, there they are, 

839
00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:59,200
people who work a job, so that 
the job can exist, not because 

840
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:02,000
the job needs to be done, self, 
looking ice cream cone. 

841
00:41:02,300 --> 00:41:04,400
That's and I mean, there's so 
many, there's so many analogies 

842
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,500
but yep. 
Yeah, I told my attorney that at

843
00:41:06,500 --> 00:41:09,600
some point along the way, there 
were people who sat down and 

844
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,600
were like, hey, we need to 
develop a process. 

845
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,100
And this is what they came up 
with and they left that room 

846
00:41:14,100 --> 00:41:15,300
thinking like okay, that'll 
work. 

847
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,300
Yeah. 
Well, as Phil has accurately 

848
00:41:18,300 --> 00:41:22,100
stated, I think that a gs-15 and
the FBI, but probably in the 

849
00:41:22,100 --> 00:41:25,700
government mostly mostly the 
government large a gs-15 in the 

850
00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:27,600
federal government is someone 
who's never said, no to a bad 

851
00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:31,300
idea and you don't get higher 
than that with with the know 

852
00:41:31,300 --> 00:41:33,600
your got to be the S guy. 
You got to be a can do, let's 

853
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:37,000
get this done unless it has to 
do with the civil liberties of 

854
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:40,700
the employees below you, in 
which case we cannot do that, we

855
00:41:40,700 --> 00:41:43,000
don't need to do it. 
We're going to be running a 

856
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:46,000
little short on time right now. 
How we doing for for overall, we

857
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,000
are Yeah, we got enough time on 
here, folks, I'm gonna plug a 

858
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:51,700
couple things. 
I'm gonna try some fun things 

859
00:41:51,700 --> 00:41:55,400
because I, I got this board and 
my brother offered us. 

860
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,900
This this sound he said I made 
this music but it's not good 

861
00:41:58,900 --> 00:42:00,700
enough for me. 
But I think it's wonderful. 

862
00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:03,900
So I'm going to put this in the 
background and we're going to 

863
00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:07,400
we're going to do a little wrap 
up here at the end of our game 

864
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,200
and we'll we'll kind of plug 
some of these things. 

865
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:13,800
First of all, I'm going to have 
you plug your book a little bit 

866
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:16,000
Steve and let people know and 
we'll put it in the show notes. 

867
00:42:16,100 --> 00:42:18,200
Oh so you can click right 
through and pre-order Steve's 

868
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,600
book but tell us a little bit 
what it is. 

869
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,000
What they expect and where to 
find it. 

870
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,200
Yeah, right now you can find it 
on Amazon, it's called true 

871
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,500
blue. 
My journey from Beat cop to FBI 

872
00:42:26,500 --> 00:42:30,200
whistleblower. 
And, you know, I I was able to 

873
00:42:30,300 --> 00:42:33,600
finish it in about a month of 
work, but then I thought about 

874
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,800
it, I realized I've been 
researching it for 37 years, so 

875
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:41,200
I think I deserve that and it 
just sort of gives an accounting

876
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,600
of my, my life leading up to the
FBI and some of the good work 

877
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:46,900
that goes on. 
FBI. 

878
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,100
And then the not so good things 
that I've experienced since last

879
00:42:51,100 --> 00:42:53,200
summer. 
Wonderful. 

880
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,400
And where can people find it? 
They said, Amazon right. 

881
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,000
Now, you know, if you go to 
Simon & Schuster, you know, 

882
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:00,300
it'll just linked back to the 
Amazon. 

883
00:43:00,300 --> 00:43:03,500
So you can just skip that step 
and go there baby. 

884
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,900
Maybe I'll have a website direct
for myself here in the near 

885
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:08,100
future. 
All right? 

886
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:10,400
Spell out your your handles 
where people can follow you and 

887
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:11,700
then where we going to see you 
next. 

888
00:43:12,700 --> 00:43:17,500
Well, Twitter at real Steve 
friend at on Truth at real 

889
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:21,300
underscore Steve friend, 
drinking, I'm going to, yeah 

890
00:43:21,300 --> 00:43:24,300
man, we can get security 
division questioning where to 

891
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:28,100
find the my material. 
But the, the big ones that I 

892
00:43:28,100 --> 00:43:31,000
have coming up next week on 
Tuesday evening, I will be 

893
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:32,900
appearing on Sean Hannity on, 
Fox News. 

894
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:34,900
Have you told him that you're 
chyron? 

895
00:43:34,900 --> 00:43:40,000
Needs to say at real, Steve 
friend and fellow and author, 

896
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,600
does it say that former FBI 
agent and whistleblower, can you

897
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,200
get a paragraph in there? 
You think I'm a Hannity show a 

898
00:43:45,207 --> 00:43:48,400
vanilla needed. 
Small font senior fellow senior 

899
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:49,600
fellow senior fellow. 
Sorry. 

900
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,800
Yeah, that's our fellow is fine.
That's easy to fit. 

901
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:55,200
Well, I look forward to seeing 
that well, so we'll look for 

902
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:57,000
Sean Hannity. 
It's going to be broadcasting on

903
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,700
Monday. 
Think, is that this Tuesday 

904
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,700
night Sean's off on Monday? 
They bought me one day, but 

905
00:44:01,700 --> 00:44:03,500
it'll be alive. 
So I'm about to do out of Carl, 

906
00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:06,500
serif and move and go to the 
actual Studio here as opposed to

907
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,400
doing it off my laptop. 
Yeah, super weird looking 

908
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,600
straight at the camera. 
Maybe not seeing anything. 

909
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:15,400
Maybe just hearing Sean in your 
ear, imagine those lapel pins. 

910
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,100
That's what you think. 
About right there as you sit 

911
00:44:17,100 --> 00:44:19,600
there in the chair and fantastic
filled. 

912
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,100
You want to give us a little 
readout of where people can 

913
00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:24,400
find, what we got going on. 
You said, you had a nice 

914
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,000
donation that you wanted to give
credit to and then also are 

915
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,900
five-star reviews, which we're 
still looking for folks. 

916
00:44:29,100 --> 00:44:31,000
Five star reviews, Phil's going 
to read those things out for me.

917
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,300
Yeah I sure do. 
We've got a nice comment here on

918
00:44:34,300 --> 00:44:38,200
the gifts and go from Doug keg. 
Doug wrote, may God bless you, 

919
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,400
and yours. 
Thank you for courage and your 

920
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,700
patriotism quote, have I not 
commanded, you be strong and 

921
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:48,800
courageous do Not be afraid, do 
not be discouraged for the Lord.

922
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:53,800
Your God will be with you 
wherever you go Joshua 1:9 also 

923
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,900
great. 
Five star review that came in 

924
00:44:56,900 --> 00:45:03,100
recently from someone named s 
Bloodworth a little wonky but 

925
00:45:03,100 --> 00:45:06,100
awesome heard your last bit on 
Dan show this week. 

926
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,400
Appreciate what you are doing. 
Exposing what we assumed all 

927
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:13,100
along, godspeed, fellow Patriot.
And, of course, we'll have a 

928
00:45:13,107 --> 00:45:16,000
link to Steve's book. 
True blue. 

929
00:45:16,100 --> 00:45:17,600
Ooh, and the description. 
That's right. 

930
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:18,800
Whoa. 
All right, I'm going to read one

931
00:45:18,808 --> 00:45:21,500
more thing here because I'm 
staying with my folks and my dad

932
00:45:21,500 --> 00:45:23,300
said, if you're going to be 
staying in my house you might as

933
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:25,700
well be pushing things that 
benefit me too. 

934
00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:27,200
So I'm going to tell you folks 
about a book. 

935
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:28,800
My father Charlie seraphin 
wrote. 

936
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,400
It's also going to be in the 
links it's called one stupid 

937
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,900
mistake and it is smart decision
making in a crazy world written 

938
00:45:34,900 --> 00:45:36,300
by Charlie Sarah from the guy 
who raised me. 

939
00:45:36,500 --> 00:45:39,400
One of my favorite human beings 
in the world still someone I go 

940
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,400
to for advice every day. 
This is his thoughts on how you 

941
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:45,500
can avoid making bad decisions 
from a lifetime of interesting 

942
00:45:45,500 --> 00:45:48,000
decisions on his own. 
On both good and bad. 

943
00:45:48,100 --> 00:45:51,800
It's a father of six people that
are an interesting mix of 

944
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,400
leftist and then people like me 
who are just constitutional 

945
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,900
extremists. 
I think that if you want to read

946
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:58,700
something interesting, it's very
easy read. 

947
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,000
I've actually read it on an 
airplane on just a single flight

948
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,700
and then I literally gave it to 
the woman that said, X2, because

949
00:46:04,700 --> 00:46:07,000
she was fascinated by it. 
So, once again, one stupid 

950
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,800
mistake. 
You can find that on the, on the

951
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,600
Amazon and he wrote another book
on there, which is sitting on my

952
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:12,600
side. 
We'll talk about that another 

953
00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:14,400
time. 
Steve, thanks for joining me, 

954
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,900
buddy. 
I really appreciate the 

955
00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:18,200
opportunity. 
Update and all the Intel and 

956
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:20,900
we'll do it again after your 
Hannity experience. 

957
00:46:20,900 --> 00:46:22,500
Will see how it feels to be in 
the big time. 

958
00:46:23,100 --> 00:46:25,500
Yeah, man, I'll follow your 
example from Tucker. 

959
00:46:26,900 --> 00:46:29,800
That's it, we're just gonna 
full-court press these people, 

960
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:33,400
folks you've been listening to 
the Kyle seraphin show, we do 

961
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,600
appreciate all of your, your 
five star reviews. 

962
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:37,400
If you do want to give us a like
if you want to throw some 

963
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,500
comments in there, I read them. 
I go check on them. 

964
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:42,200
If there's a question in there, 
I generally answer them, if it's

965
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,700
full crazy, then I let Phil 
answer them. 

966
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:45,900
That's just the way that it's 
got to. 

967
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,600
I can't handle full crazy. 
I got enough crazy going on 

968
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,100
right now. 
We do really appreciate you 

969
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:52,100
listening to us. 
All the downloads are a big deal

970
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:55,400
to us and once again as you as 
you like it, share it with your 

971
00:46:55,408 --> 00:46:58,100
friends. 
We will come back to you on 

972
00:46:58,100 --> 00:47:00,500
Monday with an interesting 
long-form interview. 

973
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:03,700
So stay tuned on Monday morning.
I'm going to be bringing in a 

974
00:47:03,700 --> 00:47:06,400
big discussion of the Second 
Amendment and we'll be talking 

975
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,100
about Sanctuary laws and their 
failures in Oregon. 

976
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:12,900
And we're gonna be talking to an
attorney who works on behalf of 

977
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,900
you through the Gun Owners of 
America and Firearms policy. 

978
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,200
Coalition, so don't miss Monday 
show again. 

979
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Thank you so much for listening.
We do appreciate it. 

980
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Thanks for listening to the Kyle
Seraph and show be sure to 

981
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,400
follow him on Twitter and Truth 
at Kyle seraphin. 

982
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,200
Coalition, so don't miss Monday 
show again. 

983
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,800
Thank you so much for listening.
We do appreciate it. 

984
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,000
Thanks for listening to the Kyle
Seraph and show be sure to 

985
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,400
follow him on Twitter and Truth 
at Kyle seraphin.