Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower, an
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth, because this program has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Serif. The MAR A Lago raid's been of
particular interest to me. Of course it's unprecedented.
I mean literally without precedent.
We've never done this before. Regardless of anyone's personal
politics. There have been paperwork
disputes about this in the past. I'm not asking you to comment on
the politics at all, but when FBI agents, specifically
Christopher Wray and the management staff that
unquestionably are briefed in a high profile case like this, do
you think it even occurs to them that they're partaking in an act
that's so overtly political it has a chance to change the
politics of the United States moving forward for the negative?
You know what? You think they're saying that
Merrick Garland at DOJ, hey, maybe this isn't a good idea.
Or is it just we're going to be loyal little soldiers here and
do what you tell us to do? I, I don't want to speculate on
anyone else's motivation. I know what I look at, right?
I've got friends that I don't, I don't speak to after that.
I assume they were part of it. It's like, I don't know what
happened, but you guys forgot to throw the BS flag on that.
You asked me to go raid President Obama's house.
You asked me to go raid President Bush's house.
It's not happening. I'm sorry it's not happening.
I'm not doing that. And I'm going to probably be
pretty vocal. That's probably going to be my
last day. It's not going to happen.
So we had a lot of people that said yes.
And I think that so much compliance got done.
We talked briefly. Here's here's what I'll kind of
share as my last kind of concern.
Every single FBI agent has to go to the Holocaust Museum for a
full day when we're in the Academy and they have a special
program. I don't know if you've ever been
to it, but it's well worth your time.
If you're a law enforcement officer, you should definitely
go go through the Holocaust Museum and see the peace they do
for law enforcement specific, it's a walking tour.
It's looking through the lens of how did this atrocity take
place? And the only way it takes place
is minor government officials are on board and local law
enforcement and state law enforcement and federal law
enforcement has to say yes, because if anybody refuses to
get with the program, it doesn't happen.
And the answer, I'm just following orders.
The Nuremberg piece, it doesn't it, it doesn't fly.
We know better. Like that's the whole point of
history. We're supposed to be able to see
that. That's why every agent has to go
to that that day. We're supposed to know that if
they ask you to do something that's illegal, immoral or
unethical, following orders is not an excuse.
It's not an excuse for me. You can't tell me to go get a
vaccine that I'm not going to go get.
It goes against my moral principles.
I'm not doing it. You can do whatever comes next.
You can ask me to do a search warrant.
That's not right. I'm not going to go do it
because it fundamentally changes the fabric of this country.
It's it changes the game. It puts people in play in the
political, you know, arena that shouldn't be law enforcement
shouldn't be in the political arena.
Number one, I think we can all agree on that.
I think most Americans would stand behind that of all, of all
political inklings. And the second piece is, is we
don't go after our former leaders and we don't go after
the opposition leader. That's Banana Republic stuff.
Everyone said it. I know you've said it too.
It gets me heated to a level that I can't stand.
And it's one of the reasons why when you made your appeal on
your radio show or you might have done it on your podcast,
it's like, it's like, it's like America is in jeopardy.
I, I agree and I don't want my children to grow up in a world
where that's the barrel they're looking down.
Well, hello, my friends, welcome to the Kyle Seraphin show.
Today is Friday, it is May the 24th.
It is a friendly Friday. We're going to have Steve friend
on momentarily and we will be talking about all things related
to patience. Patience has a weapon.
Not getting involved, not getting involved with the
enemy's mistakes when they are making them.
Napoleon told us that there's some Russians that have made
this suggestion as well. There's some art of war behind
it. This week has been a really good
lesson, I think, for a lot of you.
And I played that clip to start the show as a reminder that my
position has not changed about what happened at Mar a Lago
since September of 2022. It hasn't even come close to
changing. I still don't have friends
because they went and did that thing.
It's important to remember that we don't have to agree on
everything and we're allowed to have opinions.
That's the strength of the so-called conservative movement.
If any movement exists at all. The strength is is that we don't
have to agree on everything. We just have to have common
goals and we generally have to have the same values.
I think that's still true. Speaking of values, if you guys
want to support this program, you can support my friends at
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meet some people. It's always good to go do that
and kind of get a reset on what people know and what they don't
know. And the the thing they don't
know is that this country is in jeopardy because of some of the
civil liberties that are being threatened by my ex-girlfriend,
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It's important. It gives you really, really good
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happens. That's how America gets saved.
I think it happens at kitchen tables.
It happens over a drink, over a meal, breaking bread.
It's the way that teams are formed.
It's the way that friendships are solidified.
And they mentioned that. I think it was really worth
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So we're going to be doing some Steve Bren talking.
Hey buddy, how you doing? I'm doing good man.
It's been a long week, but I always value clarity, even if
it's not the answer I wanted. I want clarity.
But if I do have to take one positive thing away, I think
it's worth sharing on the Kyle Seraphin Show.
It's something that you will be excited about too.
My boys finished up school this week so they had sort of their
graduation ceremony and it went for like 5 hours.
It was brutal, but everybody's really proud of their kids.
My kids did well. They got honor rolls and all
that. But my proudest moment to date
as a father arrived when they were watching one of those awful
Godzilla movies that have come out.
The, the CGI monsters fighting each other.
And there was a scene where the tactical team went in and there
was naturally a girl boss who is the team leader taking the, the
seal team in. And my 10 year old looked over
me. He goes dad, you know, I, I
don't think girls should be in a combat role.
Maybe, maybe if they want to be, you know, nurses behind the
scenes. But we have to protect girls.
And I thought mission achieved. That's correct.
That's what we're conserving. That's what we should be
conserving, that there's value and there's a difference, right?
Like femininity matters, which means you got to make
masculinity great again. Good for you.
That's a that's a good feeling to know that your kids have
taken on the lessons and they've looked out there.
Indoctrination is well under way in the friend household.
You have to indoctrinate your kids because you have the added
benefit of being right. You know, things that are just.
You can't. You can't refute.
You know there's not 71 genders, there's only two.
There's only two. All right, I'm going to, I'm
going to throw a couple of quotes.
I, I went on a quote run today, this morning and I started
pulling these off. It's going to be a different
kind of show. We're not going to only talk
about news, by the way. Somebody here was talking about
Godzilla movies in the chat, about how they're great and
whatever, and you're talking about how they're awful because
they're CGI. They used to be like claymation
monsters. Do you remember that?
Yes, I actually got from the bargain bin at Walmart, some of
the older ones and blew my kids minds because it was like a guy
in a costume with a toy boat that was picking up out of a,
you know, bathtub. And they just had no
comprehension that how advanced stuff has has gotten in the
last, you know, couple decades. It's it's kind of interesting
because some people don't know what's real.
Actually, this may even play into what we're talking about
today, but my kids actually have a hard time telling a difference
between cartoons and reality because the the reality type
cartoons are so close. And then also because their
children at a certain age, we we don't realize it.
Like they look like real people because they have fingers and
eyeballs and they say words, but they don't know what the words
mean. They're just mimicking speech
patterns. My daughter right now is using
the word literally all the time, which.
Makes me want to. I want to just grab her by the
face and I and I stop her every single time.
And I say, you sound foolish, please stop.
So I'm, I'm going to coax that out of her.
She's not going to be one of these like Gen.
Z idiot type kids that says literally like I can't even deal
with that. Like she says things like that
right now and they're foolish, but she gets it from television
or she gets it from people around her.
It's awful. And so I'm going to I'm going to
knock that out of her. That's going to happen.
But they can't tell the difference.
But we used to be able to really know when something was made-up
and fake. You go back and watch the old
Ghostbusters movies with the stay puft with the with the
plasma blasters or the what do they call the proton packs and
they're shooting stuff and the explosions are crazy.
The the explosions are so funny. Same thing with Star Wars.
They're fake is all. Get out.
We watched ET last weekend. It's so fake.
It does not hold up the the the visual effects.
I mean, for the time I think there was 19 what, 89?
They used to just do this. They would just go like lights,
like splashing lights and be like, the lights are hitting you
and then you'd go like something is happening, aha.
Something has appeared, a bed, knobs and broomsticks.
They just like, you know, CGI cut.
The CGI cut was basically that they, they took two layers of
film and they laid it on top of each other and one layer was
flashing like really, really aggressively.
And that's how you beamed into places.
They didn't have green screens. They put you on a bed with wires
that you can actually see and they're flying through a starry
sky on a set somewhere. It's great.
I love this stuff and I want to be able to know that reality is
not whatever it is because people start thinking, you know,
Marvel is real, that girl bosses can actually do these things.
These are all CGI garbage. That's why I always like Wizard
of Oz, Just putting myself in a time capsule and realizing that
they had never seen color when that movie came out and they go
to the theater and see black and white and then all of a sudden
drops in how much their minds must have exploded to have that
experience. Probably about the same way that
my mind exploded when I was a kid watching The Matrix and the
first time somebody did the wire routine and went up the wall and
came running down and you're like, they just ran sideways,
you know, like what happened? It changed the game.
Now we just expect people to do wild stuff like that to fly and
then it look real. But man, some of the stuff they
did, you know, I remember watching the making of the
Matrix and the fact they put cameras everywhere around it.
And it was like we're living in a in a time when reality is very
easily bent. And I think that's actually kind
of what I want to talk about right now, because people are
bending to a algorithmic impression of reality and it's
not real. I.
Think that's fair? I think that's fair.
And I've always, I was harken back to Tina Fey in 2008 doing
the Sarah Palin and that was the actual person doing an actual
impression. And the number of people that
still today think that Sarah Palin uttered, I can see Russia
from my house if that's possible.
What is the AI component? What is the CGI component to it?
And then now with social media, the information age, you can
manipulate everything for everybody.
It's the Internet. It's the Internet quote from
Abraham Lincoln, which I'm sure you probably have on tab.
Yeah, yeah. You just, you can't trust
everything you read on the Internet.
Abraham Lincoln. Right.
We're at a time when people are putting out things that are
false and and that are misrepresenting positions, and
then they attribute that position to you, which is I
think is really important today. So here's what I want to talk
about, folks. You never interrupt your enemy
when he is making a mistake. And the two most powerful
warriors are patience and time. Those these are the overwhelming
thoughts that I want to get involved in right now.
This is where I want to hone in on for people who are upset
about whatever you and I have said.
So look, there are two positions that are being taken right now
that I'm going to I'm going to stand and we're going to address
Wednesday show a little bit too because we didn't interview
yesterday with Aaron Gogley, who by the way, Aaron Gogley agrees
with me that every FBI has always put the the standard
paperwork out. I actually don't have any beef
with what Dan Bongino said on his show.
He didn't mention me by name, but I took it personally because
it's he's talking about people that I know and or respect.
Bill Shipley. Bill Shipley is correct.
Garrett O'boyle sounds like was in the crosshairs.
Looks like you were. I got off Twitter.
I was just like, this is going to get dumb right away.
I can already tell it. Julie Kelly and I had a little
exchange in the background. I said, hey, Julie, thanks for
reminding me to get off Twitter, which I meant actually pretty
sincerely, because I actually am looking for any excuse to not be
on social media. And she wrote back and said,
you're not going to win this one.
And I said, enjoy your clicks, which is not a very nice way to
say it. But seriously, if you're going
to commit to something that is factually inaccurate and you
just don't want to know what is true.
There is a nuance take you guys did a great job on at AMRAD
yesterday. You want to summarize
essentially that there are much juicier things that happened.
That's why I played the beginning of the clip, starting
with my first interview in public.
But you, you talk, there's some real juicy eating that is
available in the mirror lager raid.
And if we forget that, then we are interrupting the enemy doing
their worst work, which is actually converting people.
Well, first I'll say that the patience element to it was
something that we discussed a little bit.
And I was saying, look, a couple weeks ago there was the Hamas
riots on college campuses and I said Godzilla reference, right,
step back, let them fight. Yes.
And we couldn't help it. We had to pass some hate speech
laws that are now going to be turned back on us.
And now I can't be help but notice the deafening silence
from the left, which knows that patience is a valuable tool as
there's a lot of infighting on the right here.
But what we sort of talked about was just generally what use of
force is and how it is always in effect, always at play, whether
or not there's paperwork or not. And if you are walking around
the office, if you're on a search warrant, if you're on
surveillance, if you're just at home on your couch watching
Netflix, the use of force policy is always in effect.
And that that's really what this paperwork really is.
It's a CYA saying like, when was the last time you were briefed
on use of force? We know you all know it, but
just the CYA, we'll just put it in there.
And I said, look, because you're not patient, you open yourself
up for the drop, which happened the next day when they said the
same paperwork was in the Biden consensual search.
And if you have to use Malthusian ethics, and I'm not a
big advocate of it, the ends don't justify the means.
But if that's the the nature of things now, that's the
battlefield conditions that we have to go to.
I get that inclination to want to use that.
But if you have the opportunity to be honest and also win
because your information is better and juicier, which we
dropped yesterday, you should probably go with that too,
because it easily discredited lie then discredits everything
you say. So when I talk about other
elements to the Mara Lago raid that I think we're a lot more
important, like the fact that they brought in an outside squad
to Miami Division, which is kind of a departure from the norm.
And the and why, why was there no pushback from the special
agent in charge there who had previously been demoted from an
assistant director in charge we're.
Talking about George Pero here. Yep.
Why was he demoted and could it be because he had very
compromising material in his background and including some
sexual escapades inside a Bureau vehicle which he then wrecked?
I mean, if you want to get down the, the, the rabbit hole of the
Stormy Daniels stuff that's been going on in New York, that's all
been attached to, to Donald Trump and his camp.
I mean, I sure they would appreciate that sort of stuff to
toss back at the FBI, but we're instead caught up in like a
paperwork dispute. And and that's just, I mean,
it's boring. It's boring because you're
making us defend our ex girlfriends and I don't like
doing it. Yeah, and somebody accurately
pointed out in our comments the other day, we're not defending
what the FBI did. We're just explaining that what
they did. Is it predictable?
And I'm going to, I'm going to take the screen for one second
here, Steve. And I'm going to give the
analogy that I have because, folks, it's really, really
important #1 the paperwork that we're talking about, it's
predictable insomuch as once you do step one, you're going to get
two and three. And more importantly, it's
actually dealt for a very specific audience.
I've had a lot of FBI agents who probably have never reached out
to me before reach out and say, I appreciate that you're being
fair about this. People that I don't like.
My ex, my ex boss, my former boss, John Nance, has been out
there saying the same thing that I'm saying.
And you'll notice that they're not getting any FBI commentators
to come on and talk about it on Fox.
Anybody that wants to whip this up into a frenzy, I actually
think they're interrupting the enemy when the enemy is doing a
great job of destroying themselves.
This is a bad play because there's a lot more to it.
But let me just go this way. If you were to come to me and
Steve and I, we've had this conversation.
So Steve, if you were to come to me and say, Kyle, I let her fly
into my house. My wife left the door open and
there is now a family flying around my house.
And I say, yeah, I hate flies. And I do hate flies, by the way,
folks, I hate flies. And there are flies all over the
place right now in Texas. I have a salt bug assault gun
that I shoot the flies with. I do it when I'm on the phone
with people. I'll walk around and hunt flies
while I'm talking people on the phone.
If there's a family in your house and you call me up and you
go. Kyle, man, I've had enough of
this fly. I'm going to grab my rifle and
I'm taking it out. I would advise you against that,
would I not? You know I would.
And you're about all the guns, but I think even there you would
probably draw. I'm about all the guns.
From line to the sand. But I'm going to tell you, do
not use a rifle to go after fly in your house.
That's a bad idea. It's probably it's both
dangerous, it's stupid, it's foolish, it's immoral, it's
unethical, it's probably illegal.
It has unintended downrange consequences.
I'm going to tell you that choosing a rifle to go after a
family is very much like using a search warrant to go and raid
Mira Lago. These are these are
inappropriate tools for the problem at hand, as proven by
the fact that they were able to use a consent based search to go
after Joe Biden and get the same type of information.
They should have gotten consent. Steve D'antwano argued for that.
But when you tell me that you're going to use the rifle and you
commit to that sort of action, which I think is absolutely
abhorrent and stupid and foolish and dangerous, and then the
other neighbor comes out and says, guys, you're not going to
believe this, but there's actually a hole in the side of
my wall. And they go, why?
And they go, well, Steve shot a bullet into a family and it hit
my wall. Can you believe that he used a
bullet to kill a family? And I say, well, he told me he
was going to use a rifle. So yeah, that's actually
predictable. That's what comes out of rifles,
bullets. The projectile is actually not
the thing that I'm most shocked about.
I'm shocked if Steve chose to use the wrong tool.
But what comes out of that tool is predictable and inevitable.
If you choose to do a search warrant, if you choose to do any
operation where you're going to bring FBI agents in to do
something, which by the way, this could have been an
executive decision where some executives tried to negotiate
and just see if they could come in.
Wouldn't it be nice if the idiots like Peter Struck who
decided to open investigations from headquarters, which they
never usually do. If a if a Peter Strzok level
section chief or above was like, hey, we're going to go and do a
negotiation. We're going to go down there to
to Mira Lago and actually meet face to face and tell him what's
on what's at play. What people don't realize that I
know, and now you know. CI 14, the Russian espionage
squad, was the group that was running this search warrant.
That's the juicy eating. That's the insanity.
They took a Russian counterintelligence squad down
from out of their area, down to Miami to go do something that
they've never done before. And why are they serving it?
As you said, a likely compromised SAC in that area who
had no ability to push back, who had all kinds of sexual
malfeasance that was listed in multiple inspector general's
report, including having sex with people in his office,
dating and having sex with someone else's wife who was also
his employee. They were both his employees.
That's crazy. So when you have that happening,
you don't get the normal check and balance that should have
happened. And so we're going to be in a
totally different world, a chaotic world.
But the fact that the right is right now focusing on something
that is basically, it's a semantics argument, is it not?
I mean, that's what we're talking about here, yes.
Yes. And I think that, yeah, it could
easily just be, let me just proffer, let's say everything
went the way that it should have And, and and let's stick a pin
in the fact that the probable cause of the case is garbage.
It should never shouldn't have been brought, but let's just
pretend for a second that it is. And Peter Strzok, you know,
rolled on down there and said, hey, look, I just, I want to do
a consensual search. And they were like great and
signed the paperwork and he went and did his consensual search
and rated, you know, I don't know, Melania's underpants
drawer. While he was doing that, the use
of force policy was still in effect.
That's right. Without a frogman team coming
out of the water, helicopters and a tactical team like speeder
struck by himself would be under the same use of force policy.
And I think that it for a case by case basis.
It it it here's where it doesn't make sense.
And it was the example that we talked about a few weeks ago.
There was a Secret Service agent who lost her mind and attacked
her team. I mean, so for you to say, well,
this is case by case basis, guys, Yeah.
And we know you're cops. We know you have training and
tools for your own defense. You know, if it's necessary, if
something crazy were to happen, but for today only, you're not
allowed to protect yourself. And then something crazy
happens, You know, that'll never, ever happen except when
it did two weeks ago, right? And a person has a mental
breakdown and attacks them. They have to just sit there and
take it that that. Has nothing to do with and they
won't do. Anything else it's just.
Personal protection. That's right, it's not there.
Let me just read something that somebody posted for me and I
thought this was good. First and last show.
This was on Wednesday. I had to come here because
someone said you changed your stance from yesterday.
Nope. My answer to them is always
going to be the same. Thank you for keeping your mind
narrow. It makes you much easier to
control. And listen, I'm not at war with
anybody in the conservative movement.
I'm just going to tell you if if it's a bad take, like I'm not,
I'm not mad at Julie Kelly even. I'm actually just disappointed.
And if Dan is mad with me, I'm not mad at Dan.
I, I just, I'm, I'm over it. It doesn't make a difference.
It's really sad to me that we are attacking people that might
have a slightly different angle on an opinion based on different
experience and one of the most important experiences.
And I want people that are sitting here listening to our
chat. And if you're listening to us on
Apple or Spotify or iTunes or Rumble, any of the places that
you're you're watching or listening, I appreciate you.
Number one, I appreciate you having an open mind.
I've been to Mara Lago when Trump was not there.
And so have you. And what, twice you've been
there, right? That's what I thought.
I thought I thought the second time was true, too.
What's amazing to me is this. When we went there, did anyone
search you? No, no.
Did they pat you down? That's through my ID and let me
walk in. They didn't patch you down.
Did they put you through a magnetometer?
No. So the level of searching at
this so-called supposedly Secret Service controlled facility,
there are areas of it that are off limits, which you and I both
experienced actually. Which we just experienced.
We actually had to, you know, pull rank and get Cash Patel to
let us take a photograph standing near a flagpole because
Secret Service came out of the wood line and said you're not
allowed to take pictures here. And Cash had to kind of smooth
it over and say, hey, like, these guys are friendlies and
they just want a picture standing by an American flag.
I don't think that's a security risk.
There's no sort of structural integrity being at put at risk.
They're not showing anything other than an American flag.
And then this, the Secret Service agent then kind of let
us do that. But yeah, they they jumped on
that right away. So there are areas that are off
limits, but it's not the entirety of the compound.
And we didn't get searched and we didn't get magnetometers.
They treat that place differently when Trump is there
versus when he's not. That's the first thing that
people should understand. So the fact that the FBI
actually waited until Secret Service had a different security
posture because the former POTUS was not there, that's actually
really important. We're talking about minutiae and
details that do matter. Here's the thing that I think is
probably going to be ground breaking to most people.
If HRT was involved, and we have every reason to believe they
they were, we have a lot of different people coming from
inside the FBI saying that they were involved.
Like every special mission unit team, HRT does its own security
brief. They do their own OPS plan, they
have a global OPS plan, and they have their own team based OPS
plan, including for individual parts of their team, whether it
be aviation, whether it be canine.
These are questions that should have been brought to us so we
could help the investigative team.
I don't know if Trump's people have all that stuff and they
just haven't released it yet. My guess is not.
My guess is they don't know to ask for it because most people
who have worked in the FBI probably don't know that not
everybody has done training with that very, very small group of
people. We're talking about less than
100 guys that are on HRT and then the the various units that
interface with them are also relatively small in a 40,000
person organization. Did you ever do joint OPS with
HRT? I did.
We did a couple times and the most prominent one was the
Gretchen Whitmer case. But just to get an idea,
everything the FBI does, the middle letter stands for Bureau
bureaucracy. It's so granular because it's a
bureaucracy. There's paperwork for every
little thing. HRT puts that on steroids.
The, I saw elements of their, their briefing that they had
internally and they had to the centimeter, the level of where
the windowsills were on the 1st floor around the entire
structure that I don't know how they took those readings, but
they must have technology that does.
I don't know why you would need that unless you were, I don't
know, some sort of sophisticated sniper.
I, I, I don't know, I don't know what the value was, but the FBI
in general says like, hey, you have to have at least 2 pistol
magazines on you. The uniform of the day is XY and
Z. Here's the route to the to the
nearest trauma center in the case of a medical emergency, but
HRT takes that to a whole another level.
We did that for everyday surveillance operations.
Wherever we were operating, we had all of those things flagged.
We may not have briefed all of it, but I was the medic and I
was the one in charge and I knew where all the trauma centers
were. So whether I told anybody else
didn't matter because I knew where it was and we had a backup
medic and he knew where it was. So unless both of us got taken
out, nobody was going to have that thing where we were going
to be confused. Yeah.
HRT. For those of you who were doing
acronyms, that's the Hostage Rescue Team.
It's the FB is Tier 1 unit that does sophisticated tactical
interventions. They get flown around the
country for various things. They were at Waco, they were at
Ruby Ridge. And there's something very
interesting. I had a person reach out to me,
and I'm not going to get a lot of details into it because
people didn't, you know, if you don't ask to be a name source,
you're an unnamed source to me. But somebody who had a lot of,
let's say, inside baseball, from what I could tell, mentioned
that they were actually on the the committee, the group of
agents that put together that FD 888.
And it was in response to the Ruby Ridge shooting that they
needed to have a generalized action plan, an operations plan
that laid out not just what was going on, but the HRT sort of
deviated from what was typical rules of engagement and the
standardized version of deadly force against Randy Weaver's
family. I'm 100% in in favor of saying
that that was a terrible situation, but I'm not 100% sure
that the FBI was the part that was the most terrible.
Actually, the articulation of it is really troubling to me.
If you miss a shot and the shot was justified, you're still
good, but you're still accountable for that round goes.
But ATF was the one that actually executed the raid.
They were the problem. And this is the story that we're
missing right now, folks. The opportunity cost of being so
interested in a Mirror Lager raid is we are not talking about
the really insane thing, which is that there is new coverage
coming out talking about the ATF shot a man in Little Rock
specifically because they were doing the same damn thing that
they did at Waco and they did in in in Idaho in the 90s.
They are showing that they are trying to make themselves
relevant. They are trying to do a press
push by getting this splashy headline of this guy as an
illegal gun dealer. The ATF passed a rule redefining
gun dealers and we've talked about on this program, but they
wanted that little, that killing that happened in Little Rock.
The, the, the airport manager, they wanted that to be the, the
shining example of like, look, this was an illegal gun dealer.
He bought 6 Glocks at a time. Folks, you could buy as many
guns as you want. I would buy 15AR15 at the same
time. They were all the same.
And if I chose to later on sell them to my friends or family
members, that doesn't make me a gun dealer.
That makes me a guy who saw an opportunity to buy something
that was good. And then I wanted to, you know,
divest myself of an asset that has tangible value.
In any case, that's the danger, I think.
I'm curious if you think the same thing if you've read the
same stories. I did that ATF story.
There's just a lot there. I mean, there's a lot of
elements to even take it. There's the the mission creep
and the bureaucratic nature of federal law enforcement or
federal government in general, where if you read through what
they actually did to that guy, they use the rules to go after
him for exercising his Second Amendment rights.
Because the ATF doesn't think that your Second Amendment means
anything. And they think guns are very bad
and they want to go after you and they'll change the rules on
you if they need to. But they used advanced
sophisticated investigative tools.
They put trackers on this guy's car.
Why would you do that? Well, they have a quota, same as
the FBI. They want to use these tools,
justify their existence. People are going to get promoted
off the fact that they put a tracker on somebody's car.
So there's an element of the the hierarchy and the way that goes,
and then there's the tactical element to it.
This guy worked at an airport. You can't carry a firearm in an
airport. Without tipping yourself off to
the security because you actually have to go through a
magnetometer or a body scan. So when you and I wanted to go
and carry a gun in an airport as a federal agent, we had to go
and tell the people that are the airport security there.
And there's a whole protocol. It goes through TSA.
But you and and now is it, is it CBP?
No, it's just TSA. It's blue shirts, right?
Blue shirts, but he works there. If you've done even a modicum of
surveillance and build up what you would think you would do on,
you know, this huge case that's going to make everybody's career
justify the ATF entirely. You you couldn't just liaise
with the airport police and then walk in and arrest him for
whatever offense you think that you have and then subsequently X
execute a search warrant at his residence.
You know, he has no expectation in the middle of the night that
Jake would come banging on the door and cut the electricity.
So he has no way of knowing who's actually there as the, the
head. The, the weaponization committee
had a hearing where his attorney was up there sort of explaining
it. They killed the power, they
killed the, the ring camera. So he couldn't even have the
ability to look who was on the outside.
He has no expectation of having interact with law enforcement
because he's, to his knowledge, he's exercising his Second
Amendment right. And and then the last element of
it is they plugged him in the head.
I don't know about you, but they never trained us to shoot to the
head first. So they either need to really
work on their firearms training at the ATF, which probably
should, or they're there to just kill a guy.
I, I don't know, I, I, there's not really a benign innocent
reason for that other than I'm, I'm a crummy shot.
And if you're on a tactical team doing that issues.
Major issues. Nobody trains for the head
shots. They train as a follow up if
somebody happens to be wearing body armor, but I've never heard
the primary shot being to the head.
Yeah, major issues here. Listen, all of this is to say
that we are interrupting the enemy.
The enemy is people who don't like freedom, people who want to
argue in favor of weaponized government.
We are interrupting the enemy when they are doing the thing we
need them to do. People need to get back to the
original play here. The play is not for Trump
supporters, folks. It's not for Trump supporters.
Trump supporters are going to vote for Trump.
If you're MAGA, you're MAGA. Would you agree on that, Steve?
Yes, I think that that's their their reliability, the whole
element to him saying I could go out and shoot a man on 5th Ave.
and they would still support me, it it probably pretty close to
100% true. Here's my issue.
We're not trying to convince people on the left or the right
right now. We're trying to find the people
that are in the middle and to get people in the middle.
And by the way, this was brought up by PBD yesterday talking to
Dan because I watched that show because I wanted to see what was
going on. It was kind of interesting.
It's always interesting to interview somebody in their own
space. You go somewhere outside of your
space and, and do that. I think it's actually a really
good move to go and, and, and engage in that.
I'd love to do more of that kind of thing where we're actually
talking to people in their space because then it's their home
field advantage. PBD said something and I heard
Dan say, I haven't thought about that, but you're just right.
There's a very small percentage of people in this country that
are swayable. The people that are anti Trump
forever, they're, they're going to probably stay there.
The people and they've already been converted.
If they're going to be converted, the people that are
100% MAGA, they're there too. We're arguing for independence.
And that is actually being picked up by those who are in
CNN. The argument is going to be, can
Donald Trump pick up more than Biden and can he pick up more
than RFK? Who is the alternate choice for
people that are not into Biden but might be susceptible to
going to somebody else? So here's a little piece.
I want to just kind of give you this video.
We'll react to it in a second here.
Those who are disenchanted with the two major parties, right?
Those who didn't vote for Binder Trump or didn't actually even
cast a ballot back in 2020. Look at who those folks are
supporting right now, which who essentially has a have as a two
person race with RFK Junior at 37% and Donald Trump at 30%, Joe
Biden way back at 12%. And I think this gives you an
indication of why both of them are going to that Libertarian
convention. They both believe that they can
appeal to third parties, those folks who support third parties
and essentially say those people who are disenchanted with the
system, RFK wants to be their guy, but Donald Trump also wants
to be their guy. It's very interesting. 37% of
the people who sat out last time.
OK, so Karl Rove, I shared part of that op-ed.
He says RFK Junior is gonna take more votes from Trump.
Obviously, we've heard, I've heard this argued every which
way to Sunday. What are the numbers tell you?
Yeah, at this particular point, it does look like RFK Junior is
going to take more votes away from Trump than Joe Biden.
But it's not a landslide, Aaron. I think that's the important
thing here. If you look at the latest
Quinnipiac University poll, which you see is that the folks
who support RFK Junior in the 313 way, when you squeeze it
down to A2 way, you see that Donald Trump wins 51% of them,
Joe Biden wins 37%. Now, again, that's not a
landslide, but it's something that could matter in a tight
election, right? It's the type of thing that
could make the difference if RFK Junior is in fact, stays in the
race and continues to poll those high percentages that Eva was
talking to. That's right.
But all right, that's the real discussion that needs to be had
right now. Where do the people in the
middle land? Can you convince them?
And I don't think you convince them with ultra MAGA anything.
I don't think that's how you do it.
I don't think you do it with partisanship.
I think you do it with nuance and a sophisticated saying,
look, let's stick on the issues because the issues are
overwhelming and they're overwhelming in favor of any
conservative position outside of the the other.
Look, the Biden administration is running on a losing record.
They want to do abortion. They want to do an open border.
They just had another failure. They try to push their garbage
border bill through. They want to tell you that
everybody is racist. Look, these are not really, they
want to run. They can't run on the economy,
so they got to run on Trump as Hitler.
They don't have a great option. They would love to see people on
the right try to get in bed and like freak out about things that
are not major issues. And it turns out that
standardized paperwork is not a winner.
I don't think for people that are otherwise not paying
attention, the pocketbook is. It's the, it's the things that
actually they can look around and go, oh shit, I'm broke and I
can't buy a house and housing is insane and the cost of rent is
going up and my grocery bill is twice what it was.
That's where you win this stuff. Unless I'm totally missing the
boat here. And you dug into this when there
was the softening put it to put it conservatively of the the
Trump position on abortion and how they were.
You argue that he was wrong on that issue.
But I just or I argue that tactically that was a mistake
because that's an issue that you're not going to get any
ground on because people who are voting on that issue are either
absolute pro-life or they're absolute pro-choice.
Yes. So you're not fighting for the
pool people with that issue that you need to on this and and as
opposed to appealing to the guys you either have guaranteed in
the bank or you will never get to nobody's like, you know, I
was never Trump. But then he he changed his
position on the abortion. He softened it and coming on
over. There's nobody that that that's
their primary issue. Like that's that'll be tertiary
at best. That's right.
That was my argument when when it came.
Well, and I had a, an interesting view into what
Catholic vote is like. It's always good to talk to
other people, people that are smart, that care about things
and and look at things differently.
I'm not like a policy guy. I'm like a common sense kind of
guy. I'm a generalist and I'm
definitely not a specifics, you know, expert in any one
particular thing on anything. I'm like a, I'm a decent person
when it comes to tactical medicine, but I'm certainly not
the best. It's not what I spent my whole
life doing, but I know about it. I can talk about it.
The thing that was very interesting to me about what
Catholic vote said is they said we're not going to touch
abortion the way that people think it is.
We're not going to play the game and we're certainly not going to
fight on the grounds that the political left wants to, which
is are you ever going to ban abortion?
Are you going to do this? The argument should be as
follows. A pro-life position is pro-life
and that doesn't mean anti abortion per SE, because that's
what they want to frame it as. So listening to Brian Birch the
other day, he said the, the, the guidance they've given the Trump
administration and they have some say to it.
They said, listen, just say that Trump is going to do every
single thing possible to help mothers keep their babies.
We're going to fund the organizations like the crisis
pregnancy centers. We're not hurting anybody's
feelings. But if you want to take a
billion dollars and give it a Planned Parenthood, we want to
give a billion dollars to people that are trying to help
adoptions and folks that are trying to get through difficult
pregnancies and help mothers that are in high risk
situations. That's what you do.
You affirm life, you don't go anti anything.
You always go positive. And so that's the the argument
they made. What a good idea.
And is it a winner? No, because it's a federalist
position. Like the court already told us,
like it's a state by state thing.
So the federal government staying out of it is not a bad
idea. Like I said, you could be, you
could be wrong for having a not being able to say the thing.
Like I think it's courageous to step forward and say the thing
you need to say, But that's probably not how you win this
election. Certainly not for people in the
middle that don't give a shit because they don't.
But do they care at all? If if you're in the middle and
you're you're weighing your options between an RFKA Biden
and A and a Donald Trump, you're going to go based on what's best
for you. And I saw that there was this
study, I think it came out of MIT.
It was like a cost of living calculator they had and they
said in most states, family, husband, wife, two children at
which is half of what you have the Seraphin household to live
comfortably in most states in America now your income has to
be $178,000. That's insane.
That's insane for almost everybody.
I like I never made $178,000 in our house.
So unless you're locked into a mortgage where you actually have
2020 rates under Donald Trump type stuff like the two point O,
you know, the 2.5 interest rate, you're screwed if you're trying
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When the enemy is relaxed, make them toil.
When full, starve them. When settled, make them move, in
other words. Push the enemy into a place
where they don't want to operate.
The danger is is along with that previous quote that we had
coming from Napoleon, you never interrupt the enemy when he is
making a mistake. With these two things, I think
play very similarly. If you can push the enemy
outside of a comfort zone, you do so.
But if the enemy has chosen to go somewhere stupid, allow them
to do it. The enemy of America right now,
because I don't think you could argue any other other way.
Seb Gorka said it. He was like, I'm not saying that
the the Democrats hate America. I'm just saying if they did hate
America, would they act any differently?
It's kind of a classic. I think it's fair.
I mean, you just have to listen to what they say.
That's how producer Phil would always say it.
It's very, very simple. So the question is this, do we
interrupt them or do we make ourselves a problem?
Do we want to make this all about us, or can we let it be
the referendum on a terrible Joe Biden situation?
And look, you've also got guys like Jim Comedy out there.
Allow this all day long. Allow the the Biden action
figure who came in under Obama and wanted to destroy America.
I can say, like, Jim Comedy is a villain.
He's the hero of his own story, but it's his own story that he's
the only one who sees it. He's a villain from the way he
said, and he's gone fully crazy partisan.
This is nonsensical. Let them run this all day.
This resonates with a very small number of people who look around
and go, but didn't we just hear about them going after parents
at school boards? They didn't specifically say
what kind of parents or how they voted.
They went after parents because they were parents and they cared
about like, you know, not reading pornography.
Here's Jim Comedy. I'll just, we'll take a braid
here. We both work for this guy.
When you think about a second Trump administration, what do
you think the implications would be for the FBI?
Oh, serious. For the Justice Department and
the FBI? Because Trump is coming for
those institutions. He knows their power.
And I think he has regrets that he didn't work hard enough to
corrupt them last time. So he's coming for them.
And that's a danger for all Americans.
He's going to put people in positions in those
organizations. He he didn't have All Stars the
last time. He'll have the bottom of the
barrel this time. But people who will want to do
his will and that should weary every American.
This election matters because of a reason like that.
People have to participate. You cannot sit on the sideline.
I don't care how you feel about Joe Biden.
You must vote for him because the consequences on the other
side. Are too severe.
The danger of of this election is that does somebody will do
something to the FBI like who gives a rat's butt?
Nobody cares, Jim comedy. It's the craziest position.
Let him make that position all day long that the election
matters. You have to go for vote for Joe
Biden if you don't like him, even if you're broke because the
FBI like that's the best. Let the enemy do that all day.
He's pathetic. And I, I, I'm loathe to always
do the, you know, the one about ISM and stuff like that.
I mean, but he just owns himself every time he opens his mouth
because he's so pedantic and so arrogant.
And he will sit there and gaslight you to your face and
say things like the guy who was in office, who while I was at
the FBI, I weaponized the FBI to hinder his entire presidency.
When he gets into office again, if if that happens, then he'll
use the FBI to to go after his Adam.
It's like, dude, you did the exact thing that that you're
accusing him of being able to do, right?
And that's for the reason he got rid of you.
Because I mean, there was probably a a personal element to
it, but I think you could also make the case there.
It wasn't personal. It was just like, hey, the
director of the FBI who I inherited because James James
Comedy was nominated in the Biden or the Obama
administration, Brodie and Slip, and he inherited him.
He kept him on. And then he said, hey, you're
weaponizing this agency so you're fired.
Yes, that seems like an objectively good thing for a
president to do as the head of the executive branch.
Yeah, there should have been more, more of that, please.
We didn't see nearly enough of it.
It turns out the. Yeah, it's it's truly incredible
that that guy, it's always about him, right?
This is a self-interest. It's like you got to protect the
FBI. But in reality, what he's saying
is like, don't let them come after me because we've been
coming after them. It's projection at its finest.
Bongino calls it the Ditsy Doo Flip a roof.
You guys are fans of that show. You know what I'm talking about.
But it's accusing somebody of the thing that you're doing.
We're seeing it over and over again.
Listen, all of that stuff, getting into the weeds in the
minutiae, let them talk. Trump actually did it right.
He did it right in, in, in the Bronx and they expected a turn
out of somewhere like 3 to 4000 people.
They ended up having a crowd of over 25,000.
It speaks to the popular base when you're saying the right
things and the right things look like this.
We're going to run on records alone.
We don't have to get all crazy about it.
They you don't even have to tell people that the government's
weaponized against you. Everybody sees it.
You're in court everyday. You're stuck in New York.
Like let that speak for itself. They're calling you Hitler.
That hasn't landed, not in eight years.
The people who already agree with you agree with you.
You got to reach out to the people that are the potential
swing votes and the swing voters are going to based on things
that matter to them, not what matter to you.
It's the easiest way to go out and touch a crowd.
If you go out to a crowd and you say, I'm this guy and I'm about
this and this is what's important to me, who cares who?
Who the hell are you? You're not me.
But if I go up there and say what matters to you, if you're
interested in this, this and this, that's why you and I love
Q&A. Would that be accurate?
The Q&A is almost always more fun than giving a speech about
like what you did like, who cares?
I enjoy that part immensely. I mean, you get a few crazies
here and there, but I was just at an event this week and
there's a candidate for office there.
And I don't want to get too specific on the guy, but his
allotted time he spent talking about how he was on the Trump
campaign in 2015 and also basically all that's all he
talked about. He was like, yeah, I was on the
campaign for this other guy. I was like, is that the how does
that relevant to what you're running for?
What are you going to do for the constituents that you're vying
for votes for right now? You can't just outsource your
candidacy to saying, Oh, I, I was with somebody else.
So by sheer osmosis, you should like me.
And it was completely ineffective speech from, from my
standpoint. I, I mean, it's, it's, it's the
primary and there's going to be multiple candidates.
And I said, if that guy can't articulate an actual vision for
how he's going to make my life better, he might be the best
candidate, but I'm not going to support that.
I that, what do you, what do I get?
What do I get with my vote? My vote is the only thing I have
to give at this point. And you're taking it for granted
by saying somebody else that you like, you know, I work for them
at some point. So I I I'm good too.
What's in it for me? It's a thing they teach you in
briefings all the time. The the what's in it for me?
Part of it, why should I care what you say?
When I give a speech to people, I they always go like, oh, will
you please come and talk to us about your story?
It's like, why people have asked me to write a man.
People have asked me to write a book.
I don't want to write a book. I don't want to write a book
about Kyle. Like, who cares?
I don't care. PT buff is a thing it's when
you're recruiting a source for the FBI or for anybody it's it's
an acronym put the benefits up front correct.
How is this going to be good for you?
Which is always laughable when you get put into a role,
particularly in the FBI that you don't want to and there's makes
no sense for you to be there. But they just need a body to do
it. They always try to do the PT
buff. They're like hey, this will be
really great for your career. I'm like how how is that I I
don't want to do it. I have no ambition to do it and
my future has me not doing that for very long possible but and I
understand and appreciate the fact that you're trying to make
it sound delivering. What's in it for me is the way
that you're going to move people in the middle, the people that
are already ideologically inclined and they're excited
about the cult of personality. And there is that.
I don't know who does that for Biden because he's not very, his
personality is pretty awful. It seems like it's it's
aggressive and it's changed and it's not very inviting.
Donald Trump has the opposite. People who are excited about
Donald Trump are really excited about Donald Trump.
They can't wait to tell you about Donald.
You're never going to convince somebody who's sort of like on
the fence. You're like, but don't you love
Donald because I love Donald? It's like, no, I actually don't
want to be part of that at all. Imagine if a if a Democrat
running in a primary right now got out there for 10 minutes
straight, talked about how he got on the Biden elect campaign
in in 2019 in preparation for that run, and thought that like
this will win these people over. Here's the thing.
There is a place for that, OK? Because, and this is the danger
that the political right has fallen into.
They did that for Obama and even being attached to Obama because
they made a deification, they did a messianic complex, you
know, by Obama believed it about himself, it seemed like based on
the way that he carried himself, like everything he did was so
great. Obama did a thing that was
incredibly dangerous. They deified a person.
They made that sort of their lowercase G.
He was a minor God and they worshipped everything he did and
everything he did was no wrong. He never even had a scandal
except for a tan suit. Like all that kind of BS is
craziness. People have done the same thing
to Donald Trump and it's utterly like it's it's off putting to
people that that want rationality.
Donald Trump is actually doing the right thing.
Let me play this video of you because he's hammering the exact
thing that needs to be said. And I'm going to comment on it
after. I'm going to say it slightly
differently. But it's very important that he
continues to stay on this drum. And these millions and millions
of people that are coming into our country, the biggest impact
and the biggest negative impact. Is against our black population
and our Hispanic population who are losing their jobs, losing
their housing, losing everything they can lose.
They're the ones that are affected most by what's
happening, not only the fact that you've lost the use of your
schools, your parks and your hospitals.
Joe Biden's inflation build the Wall is what people in
in the Bronx are chanting in in the deep blue New York City,
like one of the five boroughs, you got people chanting, 25,000
people chanting build the wall. Because what's in it for me is
if you're a member of the working poor, I hear you.
I see you and I understand that the consequences of an open
border is directly and disproportionately affecting
you. That's the way that you win
People in the middle. You say, have you noticed that
your wages are stagnant? Have you noticed that you're
competing for garbage jobs that aren't even that good?
That they're that you're getting less hours at work because
they're hiring people around you that will work for less because
they're not even here legally. Are you doing that?
I'm your guy because I don't want that for America.
I'm willing to put in protective tariffs and make other jobs cost
more for people overseas. I'm willing to make the I'm
trying to fight the playing field on the economic front.
And we can argue all day about whether tariffs are effective or
not. End of the day, it's about the
focus. The focus is about you.
And it's not about, oh, look at me, they're calling me a Nazi.
I didn't hear him say that. Then that's not what needs to be
winning. It doesn't move people in the
middle. This is where it's really
important. And here's this is more style
over substance. But I will say this, whenever
Biden speaks, he he gets to that applause line and he just
continues going and he wants to insist, oh, not, not a joke.
Not a joke, man. Look what Donald Trump did
there. There's a retail aspect of this,
a professional aspect to it. He he got his point across.
He was not complete with it. And then the chant started and
he physically stepped back from the microphone.
He didn't expect. That, that wasn't going to talk
over. It that's not a canned line that
says I expect it doesn't say applause break on his
teleprompter because he doesn't do it.
You from a teleprompter. If you want to see people that
know how to speak and I I don't go off notes.
I'll I'll have bullet points occasionally, but I usually just
go like whatever's in my head and the Holy Spirit moves me to
and you could tell like that's sometimes that gets in Donald
Trump's way. In this case, this was a this
was a spontaneous chant because it impacted the people right
there and they were like, yeah, that's the problem.
The problem is wages and you've and an open border.
So let them campaign on what kills them all the time.
Do not get in the way of the enemy making their mistakes.
The mistakes are them thinking that abortion effects everybody.
You know what doesn't affect anybody who has a family?
It affects very, very few people that are in committed
relationships that want to bring children in.
That's every conservative. But I heard this the other day.
Black families are very conservative at root.
It was actually on Peabody talking to to Bongino the other
day, talking about Stephen A Smith, who's like kind of like a
raging Lib, but he comes back into the middle because his
grandmother and his mother, conservative at heart.
People that care about families, evangelical types, even
evangelical black churches, they should be voting for a Trump.
As long as he doesn't make it about him and about, oh, look at
me, I'm going to try to elevate myself.
Allow it to be about simple issues like, hey, are people in
your community suffering? I think they're suffering too.
And I care about them enough to make it about them.
It's really, really easy. I mean, that's how politics is
won. I mean, if the populist
candidate makes it about populism as opposed to just his
own personal foibles as a from his position as a billionaire,
right, entrepreneur, right and famous person.
I mean, that's why populism actually is effective.
And if he's the vessel for that, ride that wave like a surfboard
man. Yeah, write it in here.
So and because here's the alternative.
This is CNN this morning. They had to go back to this
because they got to go after it. That the whole German reference
they brought on a an NYPD. What was sorry, where's she New
York University? It's an opinion piece.
It's analysis saying that essentially what do they call
it? Opinion from Ruth Ben Giaz,
she's a professor of history at New York University, which just
got took over a little bit ago. You know, so did Columbia.
All these people are far leftist and and her argument is it's no
surprise she's an expert on strong men and that's what Trump
is. He's essentially the next
Mussolini. It's foolish, it's retarded, as
we like to say here on this show.
But how about this? You want to talk about something
that's like really scary and dangerous?
California is testing car tracking as a possible gas tax
replacement. This is what actual
totalitarians look like. They want to know where you are
at all times. This is coming from Fox
Business. This is the kind of stuff you
can run on because even people like my father-in-law who live
firmly on the political left, they still want to be able to be
free to drive their cars places. They still don't want to have
the government tell them like a track their every movement.
People that were always worried about the fascist right, they
should also be worried about the totalitarian left.
So there's a winning aspect to doing stuff like this.
This whole story is Gavin Newsom basically wants to take
California cars, take away the gas tax that they do at the pump
and they're going to charge you based on every mile you move,
which by the way, it's the same. It's the same.
But that would capture the EV people.
So they're going to even target the people that are all like
going after and spending all the money on the electric vehicles
because they're not going to the gas pump and getting the tax.
We got to get them somewhere else.
It's it's like, how about we pay attention the things that move
the needle for people? It's like, do you want the
government tracking your every movement, whether it be state or
federal? Oh, you don't, That's what we're
about. Oh, you do you want to be able
to compete for jobs on a fair basis with the other person also
has to be a citizen and pays taxes.
We're about that too. How about that?
Because that that resonates with a big chunk of people down the
middle that just want to be left alone.
It does and and it there's a certain element to me that's
like, oh, there's these big issues that I want everybody to
focus on. And then, you know, unless
you're willing to cut government by 90 plus percent, like we're
going to go off for a fiscal Cliff, But nobody wants to talk
about that. That's, you know, that's nerdy.
You know, we want to talk about, you know, why are we funding
PBS? Big Bird doesn't need a bailout.
You know, that that that's where it is.
So these personal stories, something like that.
We're going to go after the guys who actually bought the Tesla
and we're going to tax them more.
Or there was one a few years back.
I remember that they were saying that exercising, like going for
a run outside, it caused you to breathe heavier, ergo you were
emitting more carbon dioxide. So they were going to tax you
for exercising. Yeah, sure.
That was not going to move the needle economically at all.
I'm sure. I mean the the the IT would just
be a proper in the ocean. It's a threat to the individual
you could lose an election over, right.
And, and Speaking of losing elections, this just happened in
Portland. This is worth noting.
Look at this one. OK, this is this is kind of wild
to see. Voters are seeking law and order
in flipping Portland because it's become a war zone of
dealing drugs and petty crime since they put who a progressive
DA who backs the Biden administration, who's been the
sort of soft on crime stupidity people are starting to realize.
It's the same reason that you got Giuliani in New York.
At some point in time, people go, OK folks, enough is enough.
The question is, have we gotten bad enough in this country?
Overwhelmingly no. But there's places where it is
bad enough and it's bad enough in Portland.
I've been there. It looks crazy.
It's fully nuts to go around in Portland and I haven't been
there in a couple years. I bet it's worse.
So when you start running as a tough on crime campaign saying,
hey, you know, you're elected me to be a prosecutor, I'm going to
actually prosecute criminal activity, that's how you end up
with getting a win over somebody that is quote UN quote
progressive. It is time, I think, and I made
this argument to the Catholics that were sitting in the room
with me the other day, it is time for the right to become not
just conservative but progressively conservative to
recapture ground. That's why you back people like
Harrison Butker. That's why you start telling
people, look, there are gender roles and you don't have a
choice. It actually exists and you know
it. And by the way, so does every
cell in your body, it turns out, because no matter how girl boss
you want to be, you can't fight Godzilla and you're not leading
tactical teams. There are no SEAL team platoon
leaders that are all that are female.
It doesn't exist except on Netflix and except in crappy
movies. This is not a thing.
So just let's focus on reality and let's talk about what's in
it for you. Because if you want to run on
that, who cares? How about this I'm running on.
We're going to shut down a border because it's really
dangerous and a bunch of illegal people come in and they either
take your jobs or they do horrible things like they did in
Georgia. That's easy.
You want to talk about? We're going to focus on actual
crime, not on fantasy crime. We're going to not go after the
FACE Act. We're going to put our resources
into going after people that are defrauding the US government for
like COVID release funds and all the things that are supposed to
be there. These are simple issues and they
should be the things that people focus on.
And instead, like I said, it may not be bad enough in some
places, but it's definitely bad enough in like Seattle and
Portland. That's a hell of a story to say
that that guy just lost an election over it.
Well, I, I think that there's 15 counties now in Oregon that are
doing the, the greater Iowa movement.
They've actually passed initiatives or whatever they
want to, to join the state of Iowa because they want out of
that state that's basically run by Portland.
The one city runs the entire state because of this, the
population that they have there. And that's that's not really a
keeping with a small or Republican form of government.
And that you look, I always get a kick out of looking at the the
map, the county by county map for like a presidential
election. And it's just like a sea of red
with these blue little sections. And there are all the major
cities of their population centers.
You just see like the actual amount of physical space that
the country has where people are in generally just want to be
left alone. And you, you talk about like
being like energetically conservative in as form of
government. That's why Florida's had the
success it has. That's why there people are
moving here by droves still. And I've only been here for
about 3 years and I, I'm even starting to resent the number of
people that are coming in at this point.
And look, our, our government took on Disney.
Like, is there a third rail that you, you shouldn't be touching
if you're the, the, the political party that's
theoretically supposed to be probusiness, Like there's no
more American brand of business than Disney.
And instead they were like, you know what, you want to transit
kids? So we're going to take away your
tax benefits. And wouldn't you know it, Disney
stock is through the floor and the only profitable element of
that company because their movies are tanking.
But the still, the only profitable element of that
company is the park, because people are still coming to
Florida because they approve it. Right, the checks let me break
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OK, I want to I want to leave us with this note.
OK, if we are trying, if people are talking about a movement and
I'm not sure I'm part of any movement and I'm not sure I'm
part of any team, I'm part of the suspendables team.
We're going to do the right thing the right way for the
right reason. There's actually a famous and,
and one of my favorite motivational speeches ever given
by someone out of Hollywood. It was done in the game or in a
movie that was called Any given Sunday.
And just like in life, which he's going to be talking about,
we're going to hear Pacino talk about it.
This this politics today in a divided nation where, as you
said, the cities are overwhelmingly blue and the, and
the rural areas are red across the board where 90% of the land
mass is red and they just want to be left alone.
It's a game of inches. And it's not going to be won by
fanaticism on either the left or the right or anybody saying our
guy is so great because of this. It's going to always be done by
what's in it for you. It's going to be done by the
small inch games. Just saying that policy was bad.
My policy is better about this that you care about and you make
it about the individual. He talks about a game of inches.
I want to see the inches game because you can add them all up.
So we're going to play this motivational speech going into
the weekend. I think it is a look, if you're
not united as a team for the right reasons in the right way,
you're running the right speed at the right time to the right,
you know, pattern, then you don't connect those passes.
And I think Pacino actually says it correct.
Everybody has to do the right thing at the right time.
They have to do it individually. So let's get a little pumped up
with, like I said, one of the even the even the music here is
outstanding. This is one of the best
speeches. You know, when you get old in
life, things get taken from, I mean, that's, that's that's part
of life. But you only learn that when you
start losing stuff, you find out life's this game of inches.
So is football, because in either game life or football,
the margin for error is so small.
I mean 1/2 a step too late or too early and you don't quite
make it. 1 half second, too slow, too fast, you don't quite
catch it. The inches we need are
everywhere around us. They're in every break of the.
Game. Every minute, every second on
this team, we fight for that itch.
On this team, we tear ourselves and everyone else around us to
pieces for that itch. We claw with our fingernails for
that itch because we know when we add up all those inches,
that's going to make the fucking difference between winning.
And losing. I don't want to see anybody on
the same team clawing each other.
I don't want to see a loss. What I want to see is a game of
people doing it right by the right reasons and focusing on
the thing and not getting in the way of the enemy, whatever the
opponent is, when they're making the mistakes.
That the left has been conspicuously silent about a lot
of this stuff because they see that it's causing division.
So let's just see that. Let's just focus on the things
that are the winners. Steve, what do you got coming up
on AMRAD for tomorrow? Let people know when it is.
Oh yeah, we got AMRAD. Come up tomorrow.
Let me just first say that Steam and Willie Beeman can be my
quarterback any day. Oh yeah, yeah.
The Amrads are on tomorrow, Saturday, noon time.
We let you sleep in a little bit.
Garrett and I are actually going to be talking about something
related to football that was a few years back, Colin Kaepernick
and taking the knee and it going and actually looking at what he
said and did. And maybe we're doing a memory
dump of his characteristics and his traits and his actual
positions and being like, you know, was that guy maybe
suspendable? So we'll get very uncomfortable
tomorrow on AMRAD, which is the American Radicals podcast,
rumble.com/amrad pod. And I'll put this out there.
I did it in your chat earlier. I'll do it tomorrow.
We're contemplating maybe a Memorial Day special episode,
which will be on Monday. Or we're just going to talk
about some of the fallen stories, some of the the great
heroes of our Armed Services. So people want that.
I think Garrett and I are really amenable to doing it.
Fantastic folks. You can see the chat right now
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Thanks for joining me today for friendly Friday and you're the
best and I look forward to talking to you on we'll see on
the AMRAD on the next one. I'm not sure I, I, I'm assuming
I'm going to do a Monday show as well.
So we'll, we'll negotiate here. I'll, I'll let you guys know
Steve, have a great one. Thanks for coming on.
You too guys have a great weekend, Happy Memorial Day.
All right, so that's the show for the day, folks.
That's what it's about, the game of inches.
Let's not get in the way of the enemy making these mistakes.
We have to just be patient. It's very easy if we're being
honest with ourselves. They will do all the the work at
this point. You should always let them do
all the work and they're doing it.
They're tearing themselves apart.
They're even getting upset about whether or not their positions
on Israel can be aligned like let that happen.
We don't have to be in the way of it.
I'm going to give you guys a 5 star review here it comes right
now. By the way, you guys have done
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We've either overwhelmed the algorithm or you guys are just
getting it done and we just needed to ask you nicer.
This is from Greg's XR, which I think is his phone.
It says love you, but as a US Air Force veteran ironically
served in a similar unit to yours 30 years ago, I'm not sure
if I'm welcome in your circle of friends due to my evangelical
beliefs. Folks straighten him out in the
chat right now. He of course he's welcome here.
The woman on the view is not an evangelical.
She's actually an apostate ex Catholic.
I trust you, but we can disagree on minor theological
distinctions and still work to drive this country back to a
godly nation that others may live, which is the motto of pair
rescue that others may live. It's a great it's a great motto.
It's one of those things that it actually resonated with me
pretty deeply. It's one of those things that
would give me goosebumps when you say it because there's an
entire pair, rescue and creed at the end of it.
You say these things I do that others may live.
It reminded me of my Jesuit schools that I came out of in
high school where we talked about your goal was to be a man
for others, man for others, so we can do all those things that
others may live. Being a man for others, All of
those focus on somebody else, and that's how you're going to
win the politics in the day right now.
People want to be made aware that that you care about what
they're about. Trump can do it.
He's doing it right now. He did it in the Bronx and it
was very successful. We got to continue pushing that
kind of stuff. That is the message that should
be resonating and it resonates with you because because you're
the audience and it's talking about you.
As Steve Friend just said, populism works when you go with
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