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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serafin. 
Hello, my friends. 

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Welcome to the Kyle Serafin 
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You may have already been here 
once and this may be round two 

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for you, so that'll be weird. 
We are having some tech 

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difficulties that I do not think
are coming from me or from Ryan.

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I'm pretty confident they are 
coming from Rumble. 

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In fact, every single thing that
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properly at this point. 
So I think we are running live 

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and full speed and looks like 
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back. 
So good to go. 

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Thanks for joining us. 
Thank you for your patience. 

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We had a guest scheduled because
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differences and also maybe the 
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English and English English are 
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We don't know what happened. 
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plenty of things to talk about 
because the world is still 

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burning, just like it was 
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We will just carry on. 
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And there's plenty of things for
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We did promise you a show on 
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the things that are going on 
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So let's talk a little bit about
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politics of COVID or this. 
There was a man named Anthony 

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Fauci. 
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him during the AIDS crisis 
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He's been a government employee 
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adult and childhood combined, 
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than the president of the United
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Everybody knew his name By the 
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lockdowns and all these 
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front of Congress and calling 
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So this man who is reviled by 
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love freedom, who do not think 
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American public, people who 
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truthful, forthright and serve 
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benefits the people, they didn't
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So we're going to play a quick 
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yesterday. 
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implications of that, which are 
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and covered a little bit. 
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back from that tyranny and I 
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yesterday's topic as well. 
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that video clip of Senator Rand 
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We're fighting a pandemic that 
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Can you imagine if a SARS virus 
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viral proteins added to it, to 
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released accidentally? 
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support funding of the NIH 
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Senator Paul, with all due 
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entirely and completely 
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ever and does not now fund gain 
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Wuhan Institute. 
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We do not fund. 
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function, research. 
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gain of function research, and 
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It's according to the guidelines
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North Carolina and I. 
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virus spike protein that he got 
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the SARS viruses gain of 
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that it is gain of function. 
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And if you look at the grant and
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reports, it is not. 
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the fact that people tweet that.
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the We Want Biology Institute? 
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people are tweeting it, just the
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It might. 
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definition of the word. 
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this massive, unelected, 
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deep state is an emotional word 
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they lie with impunity. 
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that because what are the 
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front of Congress and lying? 
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think about it. 
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subpoena from Congress? 
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We remember Eric Holder. 
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doing jail time for refusing to 
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Staring fast and furious? 
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it didn't happen. 
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bad happening to Auntie Fauci, 
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was referring this for a 
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Do you have that clip available 
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and forth. 
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have coffee after the fact. 
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Paul is actually on our side as 
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Rand son of Ron defender of the 
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government waste fraud and abuse
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The second thing that came out 
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who was on our show for a long 
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remember how far back it was. 
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Peter Johnson pointed something 
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Do you remember that Rand Paul 
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a neighbor and and it put him in
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recently and he also had one of 
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about it because it just 
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find that on Twitter, it's it 
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It's actually. 
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So Rand Paul's aid was stabbed 
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stabbed by this like person that
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unknown assailant and and the 
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it was the guy stabbed him while
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this is actually it's in my 
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If you go look on on Twitter, 
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about it is as Peter said, and 
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investigator and he worked for 
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of investigative mind that I do.
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and they all seem to cluster 
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investigator says they may be a 
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basically connected until proven
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and that may exist. 
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it does not. 
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you want to play the stabbing. 
Video Yeah, I got it right now. 

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I want you to watch this, folks.
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the regular behavior of just a 
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pause it for a second. 
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want to play it again for people
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And so here's what you saw. 
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I see two men that are walking. 
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shadows, so it is full on 
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then an unknown individual comes
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one of the two of them that just
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working for Rand Paul gets on 
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is able to be thrown off, and 
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I want you to watch that one 
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So here we go. 
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Now our gentleman in the white 
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is basically being beaten and 
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try to keep this guy off. 
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No big deal. 
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Now maybe this was a a very 
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Washington DC they do exist. 
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the National Capital Region the 
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that is actually pretty awful. 
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Square judge, what's it called? 
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work. 
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our nation's capital. 
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sitting around all day long. 
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some, some women as well. 
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age men with no purpose, no 
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western society, I don't know 
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That's what that guy could have 
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all the time per se. 
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walked off like it was cool, 
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happen. 
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I think 2 days ago from the the 
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States, the United States 
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about that area, and this is 
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series of courts. 
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thing called the the District 
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Superior Court. 
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that are not Washington, DC, 
this is actually worth knowing 

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in in your lives as you as you 
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There are two court systems. 
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District Attorney that would be 
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in Manhattan and he goes out and
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underlings, one of the assistant
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charges. 
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a crime both locally, which is 
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they can charge it federally, 
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Columbia's, the District of the 
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charged. 
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President Trump is going to see 
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indicted and things like that. 
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both. 
I don't know if they took this 

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charge federal since it was a 
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It was, you know, someone 
working for a senator, but it 

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does look pretty suspect. 
We'll let you guys decide in the

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chat on there. 
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referral by Rand Paul in the 
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that this anti Fauci character 
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I think he had that video as 
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Ryan. 
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that should cause us to explore 
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gain of function research say 
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naturally occurring animal 
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Wuhan Virology Institute was 
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viruses to infect humans. 
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virologist in the US, has been 
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Zengli of the Wuhan Virology 
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discoveries about how to create 
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This gain of function research 
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collaboration between the US. 
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of the deadly SARS virus, and 
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If a SARS virus that's been 
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accidentally, Doctor Fauci, do 
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NIH funding of the lab in Wuhan?
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respect, with all due respect, 
I'm not going to just disrespect

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you but not telling you anything
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We have a Fox News clip I as 
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take this to the head where we 
where we hear about the the fact

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that he's referred this over for
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Is that correct, Ryan, we got 
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Yeah, I got it. 
Ready. 

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Ready. 
Let me throw it up there right 

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So this is. 
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been a clear case of perjury in 
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testimony. 
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He said adamantly that the 
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gain of function research. 
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Accountability Office. 
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funding came from the NIH. 
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Tabak of the NIH admitting it in
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NIH. 
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smoking gun, and that is Fauci 
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of what he was saying in public.
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Now we have one guy. 
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Isn't it just seem like there's 
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It's like obviously what Rand 
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case for perjury is high. 
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Those things were not true. 
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That should be considered a 
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Does anybody out there have any 
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Is there any sensation that you 
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Justice being run under these 
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and Merrick Carlin are going to 
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hero of the Republic, the man 
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pregnant presidency? 
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I've got pregnancy on the brain 
because my wife is walking 

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around ready to give out a baby 
at any moment. 

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But you had a guy that basically
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thing that get that gave him an 
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I think there's probably a 10 
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look back and we go, Donald 
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on purpose by people who had 
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They were willing to let people 
die over it and this guy was 

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lying through his teeth. 
Wouldn't it be nice if we just 

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had people that were honorable 
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I mean, I think that was the 
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The the issue that was put out 
in the Durham report had nothing

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to do with how the FBI could 
change policies. 

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I'm switching gears on you here,
but I'm just telling you this is

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a ubiquitous problem. 
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agencies. 
It it it is a problem of people 

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who work for the federal 
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They think they know best. 
They are the experts. 

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They will run things the way 
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supposed to deal with it. 
And if they don't like a 

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president, they're going to get 
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That seems to be what we're that
seems to be the country we're in

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right now in so many different 
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And we see it because it's 
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It's not like they are fairly 
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wrong, and it's not like they're
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somebody and then they're going 
to have an honest investigation.

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Do you know who else was accused
of perjury, Mr. Ryan? 

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Do you know who else was accused
of perjury in front of in front 

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of the house? 
Who Garrett O'boyle, which got 

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us pretty steamed up Garrett 
who's sitting in the chat right 

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now and he's he's Hawking some 
of the merch that we've had a 

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free the merch tag. 
I don't know what free the merch

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is like it was not being 
liberated. 

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But he's been going out there 
and getting it done. 

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So he actually has a If you're 
watching in our live chat, you 

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can actually go through and 
click. 

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I believe it's the tiny you are 
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pull it up in a second here. 
I'm actually wearing the last 

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line shirt at the moment which 
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They said that Garrett O'boyle 
because he received money after 

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he testified from me. 
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despite the the wonderful tan 
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I'm actually not cash Patel to 
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Congress. 
Garrett O'boyle supposedly 

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committed perjury because he 
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the media, which he didn't and 
they they claimed that he was 

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paid for his testimony and that 
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policy and so on and so forth. 
So they referred a Boyle over to

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DOJ in the same way that Anthony
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front of Congress was referred 
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Just I want, I just want you to 
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that a guy who lost his job, who
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would be. 
And lost his job with no warning

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in good faith, sold his home and
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his stuff. 
That guy was referred by the 

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Democrats like Stacy Plaskett 
and Jerrold Nadler because they 

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made-up a fictional story that 
had nothing to do with what he 

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said and was not based in 
reality. 

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And they have absolutely no 
proof of and wrote a very scary 

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letter saying the DOJ should go 
and prosecute him. 

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And then you have Anthony Fauci,
who is a legitimate villain. 

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He's like a Bond villain, but 
you know, sounds stupider. 

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The guy went out there and and 
has been doing dangerous and 

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scary research for a very long 
time. 

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He's been doing things that, you
know, probably resulted in death

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with some unethical research 
that they are going and skirting

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international laws and US 
prohibitions against gain of 

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function research in this 
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He's out there dancing around 
words trying to make things mean

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something they don't. 
And when he's referred for 

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prosecution, I just want to 
know. 

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You can put it in the in the 
comments below. 

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You can literally go down, 
Scroll down there and make sure 

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you hit the like on the way down
and make sure that thumb is 

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green and then let me know. 
Do you think that there's a 

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chance that the DOJ under under 
Joe Biden is going to 

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investigate and find anything of
value or will they do the 

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classic the government has 
investigated the government and 

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found that the government was 
not culpable for any 

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governmental wrongdoings because
I'm pretty sure that's the 

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playbook that we're living in. 
So even though we have this and 

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thank God we have at least 
somebody, some voice in the 

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wilderness calling this out and 
saying the thing that makes 

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everybody else feel like they 
are crazy, you probably feel 

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like a lunatic. 
You're out there going, how am I

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the only person that's seeing 
this? 

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Where are elected 
representatives? 

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Why are they not speaking up and
being the voice of the people? 

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We have a Republic. 
We do not have a democracy. 

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We have a Republic where we are 
supposed to have representatives

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that speak from their elected 
perspective and they are 

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supposed to go out there and and
represent you in a good way, in 

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a way that's meaningful. 
And I think moreover I keep 

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seeing over and over again that 
that is not the case. 

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I in fact I just saw a video 
yesterday of of people walking 

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through these are Texas elected 
Republicans in the State House 

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and they apparently approved an 
L GB TQ awareness day for the 

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Texas Department of or the the 
Texas Chambers of Commerce. 

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They're out there pushing some 
gay agenda and they're the 

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Republicans in the state of 
Texas of all places. 

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And so people feel less and less
like they have a voice. 

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These are really important spots
they and and they're just being 

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abused and you know people do 
not feel like their voices being

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heard. 
And the same thing in the House.

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You know, we're talking about 
Rand Paul in the Senate. 

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Obviously in the House you have 
Matt Gaetz and he seems to be 

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the lone voice out there crying 
defending whistleblowers in a 

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meaningful way. 
Got Jim Jordan in some ways. 

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But Matt Gaetz seems to be the 
only one that's really 

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emotionally motivated about this
stuff that seems like he is 

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really pissed off by the 
injustice. 

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And that goes also to the back 
end of things. 

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He's actually reached out to our
guys. 

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He sat down with them and kind 
of explained what was happening.

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And are we going to see Chris 
Ray prosecuted for perjury? 

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We going to see anything to that
effect? 

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Because we talked about it 
yesterday, it's in, it's in the 

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loop today. 
We can actually talk about our 

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sponsor real quick too. 
We might as well. 

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Let's say just a quick thanks 
again to a Catholic vote for 

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sponsoring our program. 
And this will parallel right 

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into what we're talking about. 
This is The loop. 

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You can go to catholicvote.org, 
bring them up, type in your 

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e-mail address and your zip code
and you'll get the loop just 

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like I do every day. 
It's a great e-mail. 

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It's a really nice format. 
You can click through it and and

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and the number one thing they 
have on is from yesterday's 

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show, Anti Catholic Memo, not 
just from Richmond. 

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Here's the first line of this 
article. 

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The FBI Director quote may have 
lied under oath about the FBI's 

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infamous January memo from 
January 23, which we exposed 

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here first with the Tracy Beans 
that uncovered DC That was our 

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exposure. 
That was a Kyle Seraphin and 

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Tracy Beans push along with an 
unnamed FBI whistleblower. 

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We expose this thing showing 
that they were so-called radical

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traditional Catholics. 
And the evidence shows that the 

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memo did not originate solely in
that in that field office as was

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discussed. 
In fact, it was multiple field 

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offices as you heard yesterday, 
Portland and Los Angeles, both 

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coast of the United States 
involved. 

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And I'm going to talk about what
I think that is in a second 

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here. 
A couple of the really good 

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things in there. 
You can see Brian Birch is going

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to talk about the issue. 
One loss, which we covered 

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yesterday as well, Biden voters,
no fans of, I'm sorry, young 

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voters, no fans of Biden, which 
I think it's really funny. 

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That's a New York Times poll by 
the way, folks. 

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They found that 4% of 
respondents, 18 to 29, strongly 

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approved for the way that Joe 
Biden handled the presidency, 

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and only 32% in that age bracket
said they somewhat approved of 

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it. 
That is some astronomically bad 

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numbers, but, you know, not 
shocking considering we're 

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talking about a man that's over 
80 that falls over when holding 

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a bicycle and seems very 
interested in ice cream and 

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probably jello. 
I imagine he's probably really 

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00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,080
excited about being night so 
that things can keep moving. 

454
00:21:35,360 --> 00:21:37,440
And yet he's just hanging out 
there in the White House, 

455
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,360
getting money, bags of cash from
China, all that kind of thing. 

456
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,280
Good, good stuff. 
Shocking that young Americans 

457
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,320
are not thrilled about that. 
I cannot imagine why young 

458
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,000
people wouldn't think that that 
would be a great thing to have 

459
00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,690
leading the country. 
Maybe they're looking at the the

460
00:21:49,690 --> 00:21:52,530
outcome of his two children and 
seeing like, Oh well, his three.

461
00:21:52,530 --> 00:21:55,770
We only see two left right. 
You've cut one that was just out

462
00:21:55,770 --> 00:21:58,530
of rehab and the other one seems
like he likes to smoke Parmesan 

463
00:21:58,530 --> 00:22:01,610
cheese craziness. 
How how could you have such a 

464
00:22:01,610 --> 00:22:04,130
president that doesn't that 
doesn't enjoy that sort of 

465
00:22:04,130 --> 00:22:08,370
thing. 
So let let's just kind of say 

466
00:22:08,370 --> 00:22:12,690
that you can check out the loop 
and and we'll keep talking about

467
00:22:12,690 --> 00:22:15,370
the FBI director piece here 
because it's it's, it's included

468
00:22:15,370 --> 00:22:18,710
in today's show that lying has 
no results. 

469
00:22:18,710 --> 00:22:21,190
If you go do it in front of 
Congress, even though the charge

470
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:23,150
would be perjury, it would be 
false statements. 

471
00:22:25,350 --> 00:22:27,790
Does anyone think that Chris 
Wray is going to face that And 

472
00:22:28,910 --> 00:22:31,230
and here's the game and I can 
see Fauci playing it too. 

473
00:22:31,510 --> 00:22:34,790
They start mixing their words. 
They start playing with the way 

474
00:22:34,790 --> 00:22:38,350
that they are saying things. 
If you listen to what Chris Wray

475
00:22:38,350 --> 00:22:41,190
said, he said specifically, and 
this is where I get really, 

476
00:22:41,190 --> 00:22:43,190
really antsy about these kind of
things because they're not going

477
00:22:43,190 --> 00:22:45,480
to be able to prove it, even 
though the man would have lied. 

478
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:49,360
Let me put it this way, if Chris
Ray was your teenage child and 

479
00:22:49,360 --> 00:22:52,920
you asked a question, was 
anybody else involved in this 

480
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:57,440
thing that just went wrong? 
And he said, no, it originated 

481
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,720
from, you know, one thing and it
was this person. 

482
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,320
And then you find out, well, 
there were two other kids that, 

483
00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:04,560
you know, add money to it and 
they came up with the idea and 

484
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,800
this kind of deal, in the case 
of the Richmond field office 

485
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,720
product, essentially one office 
wrote it, approved it, moved it 

486
00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:11,040
out, disseminated it. 
That's true. 

487
00:23:11,730 --> 00:23:15,850
But they use source work from 
other offices And so Chris Wray 

488
00:23:15,850 --> 00:23:17,610
is going to hide behind it. 
He's like, no, like it was 

489
00:23:17,610 --> 00:23:19,050
originated. 
Like I said, it came from 1 

490
00:23:19,050 --> 00:23:20,410
field office. 
There was one group of people 

491
00:23:20,410 --> 00:23:23,250
that wrote it out. 
Just because other, you know, 

492
00:23:23,250 --> 00:23:25,250
field offices are doing their 
jobs and they're out there 

493
00:23:25,250 --> 00:23:27,410
putting things out to the world,
doesn't mean that they were 

494
00:23:27,410 --> 00:23:28,810
involved in that particular 
product. 

495
00:23:28,850 --> 00:23:32,650
And that was what you asked. 
But if you're a parent and 

496
00:23:32,650 --> 00:23:35,210
you're looking at your teenage 
Chris Wray, who's giving you 

497
00:23:35,210 --> 00:23:38,050
this line of BS, he's still 
getting grounded. 

498
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:42,710
He's still going to his room. 
He doesn't get his his Sega Game

499
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:43,630
Gear. 
I don't know what kids play 

500
00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:44,550
anymore. 
What do they play? 

501
00:23:44,550 --> 00:23:46,830
A Nintendo Switches? 
Maybe he doesn't get that. 

502
00:23:47,030 --> 00:23:49,070
Yes, 5, yes. 
Five, No. 

503
00:23:49,070 --> 00:23:50,870
That's how you have a ride in 
New York, I think. 

504
00:23:51,230 --> 00:23:54,390
I think the PS5 causes riots. 
I'm not sure. 

505
00:23:54,550 --> 00:23:57,310
I don't do, I don't do gaming. 
But what I will say is this, the

506
00:23:57,310 --> 00:23:59,830
guy is fundamentally being 
dishonest and they are going to 

507
00:23:59,830 --> 00:24:02,270
hide behind this like well, 
that's not the letter of what I 

508
00:24:02,270 --> 00:24:04,150
said. 
If any of you think that you 

509
00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:06,790
would be treated in that way, 
that you would be given the 

510
00:24:06,790 --> 00:24:10,430
benefit of the doubt, I've got a
bridge. 

511
00:24:10,430 --> 00:24:12,990
I can tell you, I think because 
this is not the way that it 

512
00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:14,790
works. 
There are two tiers of justice 

513
00:24:15,030 --> 00:24:18,230
and those tiers are people that 
are in the political favored 

514
00:24:18,230 --> 00:24:20,470
party. 
And we've seen this over and 

515
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:24,390
over again. 
And then people who are not. 

516
00:24:24,910 --> 00:24:28,150
And you're probably not, as you 
well know, as many of you have 

517
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:31,790
said, if I had done the same 
thing, then I would be, you 

518
00:24:31,790 --> 00:24:35,110
know, facing charges. 
I would be having the FBI or 

519
00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:36,510
local law enforcement knocking 
on my door. 

520
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:39,200
And Speaking of local law 
enforcement knocking on your 

521
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,240
door, let's talk a little bit 
about what happened yesterday. 

522
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,360
I think that we'd be remiss in 
not covering this. 

523
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:45,200
Those of you who spent a bunch 
of time with me on a Twitter 

524
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:46,480
space would already know this 
thing. 

525
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,800
But let's let's let's dig into 
it. 

526
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:56,880
There was an old man 75 years 
old in Provo, UT yesterday that 

527
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,040
was shot sometime just after 
6:15 in the morning local time 

528
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,920
by the FBI on a SWAT team 
arrest. 

529
00:25:04,770 --> 00:25:07,450
I actually should be able to 
pull up in pretty quick detail 

530
00:25:07,650 --> 00:25:10,250
the the story about or the 
actual criminal complaint. 

531
00:25:10,250 --> 00:25:12,010
But I want to just touch on the 
major pieces of it. 

532
00:25:12,090 --> 00:25:15,530
If you didn't hear the the the 
spaces, I don't record them so 

533
00:25:15,530 --> 00:25:17,730
you're not going to catch them 
unless we put them out here on 

534
00:25:17,730 --> 00:25:19,370
the podcast and so let's let's 
cover it down. 

535
00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:21,730
There are two things that could 
be true at once. 

536
00:25:22,050 --> 00:25:26,640
The man could have been shot in 
a justifiable shooting and and 

537
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:29,240
it could have still been a 
really bad tactic to use. 

538
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,640
And I want to flesh that out and
put some real meat on it because

539
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,240
I want people to understand that
it's not a black and white issue

540
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,000
when the FBI gets involved with 
use of force. 

541
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,640
You got some pictures below 
that. 

542
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:39,360
Ryan's doing a good job. 
This is from Benny Johnson's 

543
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:42,200
Twitter handle and what you're 
seeing is a kind of a heavy 

544
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,960
settled guy. 
He was a Vietnam era veteran 

545
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,200
from the United States Air 
Force. 

546
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:49,360
He's carrying a a Remington 700 
looking rifle or I think it was 

547
00:25:49,360 --> 00:25:52,600
an M24 is what he called it. 
This is a, you know, tactical 

548
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,530
type rifle with a scope on it 
and you know a lot of people use

549
00:25:55,530 --> 00:25:57,250
them for hunting or for target 
practice and so on. 

550
00:25:57,490 --> 00:26:00,770
There's a picture of him wearing
a silly helmet and he's got, you

551
00:26:00,810 --> 00:26:03,570
know, some goggles on and he's 
carrying an AR That is not a 

552
00:26:03,570 --> 00:26:05,930
serious looking AR to me. 
But, you know, maybe it looks 

553
00:26:05,930 --> 00:26:08,490
tough to the to the bad guys. 
I'm sure it played really well 

554
00:26:08,690 --> 00:26:12,170
when you try to present that in 
front of a a briefing to a 

555
00:26:12,170 --> 00:26:14,650
senior FBI executive and for 
some reason he's carrying he's 

556
00:26:14,650 --> 00:26:15,610
walking around with a gully 
suit. 

557
00:26:15,610 --> 00:26:18,130
Which gully suit rather, Which 
is to say he probably bought 

558
00:26:18,130 --> 00:26:21,650
something from Chinese that cost
him 48 bucks on Amazon and it 

559
00:26:21,650 --> 00:26:24,760
looks like he's wearing grass. 
How effective that would be, No 

560
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,440
idea. 
From what we understand the guy 

561
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,920
was actually a pretty mobility 
challenged and needed a cane to 

562
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,840
walk around. 
He weighed close to £300 and was

563
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,760
not in great health and was 
probably like many older 

564
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,640
military veteran Americans, 
really pissed off about what 

565
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:42,880
he's seen going on in this 
country. 

566
00:26:43,340 --> 00:26:45,700
Some of that has to do with the 
lying that the anti Fauci types 

567
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:48,060
are involved in and some has to 
do with the weaponization that 

568
00:26:48,060 --> 00:26:50,460
we see the FBI doing. 
I'm sure all these things were 

569
00:26:50,460 --> 00:26:52,260
all in there. 
They're seeing, you know, his 

570
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:55,380
posts were about people like 
Alvin Bragg on Facebook. 

571
00:26:55,380 --> 00:26:56,980
So I want to go into a couple of
little pieces of this. 

572
00:26:56,980 --> 00:27:01,660
The nuance of this particular 
scenario #1, if somebody draws a

573
00:27:01,660 --> 00:27:04,420
weapon on law enforcement, they 
are justified in making that 

574
00:27:04,420 --> 00:27:08,180
shot under the way FBI policy 
and the DOJ's deadly force 

575
00:27:08,180 --> 00:27:10,660
policy works. 
I have actually cited that 

576
00:27:10,660 --> 00:27:14,140
policy probably thousands of 
times at this point. 

577
00:27:14,140 --> 00:27:15,940
I've literally said it out loud 
thousands of times. 

578
00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:18,940
And I'll do it one time for you 
so you understand the standard 

579
00:27:18,940 --> 00:27:21,820
to which the FBI SWAT team will 
be held in the internal 

580
00:27:21,820 --> 00:27:23,580
investigation. 
And I do not think that this is 

581
00:27:23,580 --> 00:27:26,380
necessarily unfair. 
I think sending the SWAT team 

582
00:27:26,380 --> 00:27:30,540
may have been unfair, but using 
the standard of deadly force is 

583
00:27:30,540 --> 00:27:33,060
not. 
And so all of them here the same

584
00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:35,540
briefing when they go in. 
And I've been in dozens, 

585
00:27:35,540 --> 00:27:39,100
probably 50-60 SWAT briefings 
and arrest briefings over my 

586
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,940
time in the FBI. 
What it sounds like is this. 

587
00:27:41,190 --> 00:27:44,030
It says law enforcement officers
of the Department of Justice may

588
00:27:44,030 --> 00:27:46,190
use deadly force only when 
necessary. 

589
00:27:46,470 --> 00:27:48,750
That is, when the subject of 
such force, that's the person 

590
00:27:48,750 --> 00:27:52,070
being shot, presents an imminent
danger of death or serious 

591
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:54,070
physical injury to the officer 
or another person. 

592
00:27:54,190 --> 00:27:56,150
That's the gist of it. 
And what we're talking about 

593
00:27:56,150 --> 00:27:59,910
here is imminent, imminent death
or serious physical injury. 

594
00:28:00,430 --> 00:28:02,550
That means that they have access
to a weapon, they are reaching 

595
00:28:02,550 --> 00:28:05,110
for a weapon, they have a weapon
in their hand and they are 

596
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:06,670
moving it. 
That is a shooting scenario. 

597
00:28:06,910 --> 00:28:08,980
That's how they're taught and 
they're not going to be doing 

598
00:28:08,980 --> 00:28:10,660
anything else. 
And you want that for the safety

599
00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:12,980
of law enforcement. 
That is a a decent legal 

600
00:28:12,980 --> 00:28:15,860
standard. 
And yet, when you show up at 

601
00:28:15,860 --> 00:28:19,380
someone's house at 06/15 and I 
just want you to put yourself in

602
00:28:19,380 --> 00:28:23,700
this guy's place, your £300, you
move around with a cane, you're 

603
00:28:23,700 --> 00:28:26,900
pissed off at the government. 
He takes care of a sounds like 

604
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:31,500
an adult child who had a 
disability and the FBI bangs on 

605
00:28:31,500 --> 00:28:34,140
your door. 
You're in bed and you hear Bang 

606
00:28:34,140 --> 00:28:37,220
Bang, Bang, Bang, FBI search 
warrant, bang, bang, bang, bang,

607
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:38,820
FBI search warrant, open the 
door. 

608
00:28:39,460 --> 00:28:41,540
Let's say you hear that. 
And that sounds like what 

609
00:28:41,540 --> 00:28:44,940
usually goes on because the 6:15
raid, they almost always execute

610
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:50,020
them at zero 600, like 0559. 
The wheels are rolling through 

611
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:52,900
the front of the driveway. 
It also sounds like they used 

612
00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:57,730
the the battery ram on the front
of a of a BearCat to punch in 

613
00:28:57,730 --> 00:28:59,290
the window. 
At the very least, we can see 

614
00:28:59,290 --> 00:29:01,370
from the photographs that were 
in the Washington, the New York 

615
00:29:01,370 --> 00:29:04,810
Post, and some others that there
was a a window that was bashed 

616
00:29:04,810 --> 00:29:08,010
out in the front of the house. 
And so imagine you're in your 

617
00:29:08,010 --> 00:29:09,090
bed. 
You're trying to figure out who 

618
00:29:09,090 --> 00:29:11,090
the hell is knocking on my door.
What is going on here? 

619
00:29:11,210 --> 00:29:12,810
You're confused. 
You've just woken up. 

620
00:29:13,490 --> 00:29:15,410
You probably had some rage 
tweets the night before. 

621
00:29:15,410 --> 00:29:17,410
Whatever it was or he was 
posting on Facebook is his 

622
00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:20,810
preferred space, apparently. 
And then your glass window 

623
00:29:20,810 --> 00:29:25,360
explodes through the blinds. 
There's, you know, blue and blue

624
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,920
and red lights. 
You have no idea who it is, why 

625
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,200
they would be there. 
And then try to imagine, has 

626
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,240
anyone ever knocked down your 
door before? 

627
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:35,920
Has anyone ever blown out your 
window and done an explosive 

628
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,560
breach? 
Because they threw flash bangs. 

629
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,480
At least we know that they were 
flash bangs in front of the 

630
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:41,320
window right there. 
Because we did see some video 

631
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,440
from a neighbor across the 
street. 

632
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,440
So he drops, he gets a flash 
bang, an explosion. 

633
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:47,880
There's an enormous boom. 
There's your glass breaking. 

634
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,560
And then there's guys with guns.
I don't know. 

635
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,450
The idea that you would reach 
for a weapon system is not, it's

636
00:29:53,450 --> 00:29:54,890
not out of the range of 
possibility. 

637
00:29:55,010 --> 00:29:58,170
And so you've set somebody up 
there in that scenario to be 

638
00:29:58,170 --> 00:30:01,250
shot because there is no good 
reaction to that. 

639
00:30:01,250 --> 00:30:05,090
Like, maybe you have the 
presence of mind to agree that 

640
00:30:05,090 --> 00:30:06,130
you're going to give up right 
then. 

641
00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:08,530
But like, if the FB I's never 
been to your house before, how 

642
00:30:08,530 --> 00:30:10,210
in the world would you know how 
to react to the FBI? 

643
00:30:10,410 --> 00:30:12,650
You're seeing a picture on the 
screen right now on the rumble. 

644
00:30:12,770 --> 00:30:15,170
This is the front window. 
It looks like that that window 

645
00:30:15,170 --> 00:30:17,640
was very very, you know, 
aggressively breached. 

646
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,320
You can see the blinds are 
sitting there pulled out through

647
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,480
the front, which tells us that 
something probably went in and 

648
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,240
went back out. 
And then there were reports that

649
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:26,960
this guy was actually dead in 
the middle of the street. 

650
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,320
And I don't know how that would 
have happened. 

651
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,200
There could have been some 
neighbor exaggerating. 

652
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,320
They said that he was left in 
the street dead for five hours. 

653
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,600
Possible, but not necessarily 
true. 

654
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,240
If that was the case, there's 
only like 2 possibilities. 

655
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,200
One, he came out and decided to 
go out to blaze of glory. 

656
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,630
We may find that out. 
There's not going to be any body

657
00:30:43,630 --> 00:30:46,070
Cam footage, but there may be 
some some information that we 

658
00:30:46,070 --> 00:30:48,030
hear about that. 
Usually there's local police on 

659
00:30:48,030 --> 00:30:50,350
these things as well. 
And then the second possibility 

660
00:30:50,350 --> 00:30:52,270
is, is that that he was actually
dragged out of the house and 

661
00:30:52,270 --> 00:30:54,070
they were trying to do some 
emergency medicine on him 

662
00:30:54,350 --> 00:30:56,390
because they set up what's 
called the casualty collection 

663
00:30:56,390 --> 00:30:59,390
point outside the front door. 
And that's pretty standard for 

664
00:30:59,390 --> 00:31:02,230
FBI briefs. 
Almost all SWAT teams will say 

665
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:04,510
like a medic bag gets dropped 
out of the front step if 

666
00:31:04,510 --> 00:31:07,590
somebody gets hurt, usually are 
people, but if the subject was 

667
00:31:07,590 --> 00:31:09,430
hurt, you would drag them 
outside of the house and try to 

668
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:11,510
treat them where there's open 
space and you can actually move 

669
00:31:11,510 --> 00:31:15,030
them. 
So, so here you have this guy 

670
00:31:15,990 --> 00:31:19,070
and what is his big crime? 
We went through the criminal 

671
00:31:19,070 --> 00:31:21,430
complaint last night and I'll I 
will paraphrase it for you in 

672
00:31:21,430 --> 00:31:22,950
pretty short order. 
I don't have the exact dates, 

673
00:31:22,950 --> 00:31:27,310
but I believe on March 18th he 
made a legitimate threat online 

674
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:31,750
that is in violation OF18USC875,
which is the Interstate threat 

675
00:31:32,670 --> 00:31:34,750
statute. 
And he said that he was going to

676
00:31:34,750 --> 00:31:38,260
fulfill his dream of killing 
Alvin Bragg by going to New York

677
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:42,340
and taking a suppressed M&P 9 
millimeter and shooting him in 

678
00:31:42,340 --> 00:31:45,420
the head and having a little 
bile of drug, you know, blood go

679
00:31:45,420 --> 00:31:47,020
down. 
This is obviously a very violent

680
00:31:47,020 --> 00:31:51,420
fantasy and I think falls 
probably pretty credibly under 

681
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:54,140
18USC875. 
That's a legit Interstate threat

682
00:31:54,260 --> 00:31:56,180
he posted online and he said he 
was going to do it. 

683
00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:58,340
And so we say does he have the 
means to do it? 

684
00:31:58,340 --> 00:32:00,420
He owns the guns. 
Does he have the motive to do 

685
00:32:00,420 --> 00:32:01,500
it? 
He does seem pissed off. 

686
00:32:01,700 --> 00:32:03,100
Does he have the opportunity to 
do it? 

687
00:32:03,100 --> 00:32:05,710
That one's probably pretty weak.
The guy probably has a hard time

688
00:32:05,710 --> 00:32:10,190
going and hiding in a a 
courthouse parking lot and or a 

689
00:32:10,190 --> 00:32:11,750
parking garage and getting out 
and brack. 

690
00:32:11,750 --> 00:32:14,230
But that was the plan. 
That's an actual plan. 

691
00:32:14,670 --> 00:32:16,430
You can't deny that. 
That's a legit Interstate 

692
00:32:16,430 --> 00:32:18,310
threat. 
And that launched an FBI 

693
00:32:18,310 --> 00:32:22,670
investigation that brought FBI 
agents to his house for an 

694
00:32:22,670 --> 00:32:24,590
interview. 
They mentioned the surveillance.

695
00:32:24,590 --> 00:32:27,270
They said they were going to go 
out there and you know check in 

696
00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:28,790
on him. 
They tried to do that sort of 

697
00:32:28,790 --> 00:32:33,010
thing and when that happened, 
what we got was exactly what 

698
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:35,250
you'd expect, what actually what
you should say, he told them. 

699
00:32:35,490 --> 00:32:39,690
I said it was a dream, we're 
done here, Get off my property, 

700
00:32:39,690 --> 00:32:41,290
come back with a warrant. 
That was essentially the, the, 

701
00:32:41,290 --> 00:32:42,530
the things. 
And it's actually all written 

702
00:32:42,530 --> 00:32:47,570
out in the criminal complaint. 
Now that resulted in him also 

703
00:32:47,570 --> 00:32:49,730
putting another angry Facebook 
post up. 

704
00:32:49,930 --> 00:32:52,330
And that angry Facebook post 
said basically if the FBI still 

705
00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:55,530
monitoring my social media, I 
have my, my 45 on my hip and I'm

706
00:32:55,530 --> 00:32:57,610
ready for that kind of thing. 
And so they can come back 

707
00:32:57,610 --> 00:33:00,350
anytime they want, which I guess
is a threat as well. 

708
00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:03,830
So that's eight, that's 18 U 
SC115 was the other charge. 

709
00:33:04,310 --> 00:33:08,190
So you've got two legit threats.
Those both happened in March of 

710
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:10,790
this year and what we discussed 
in our space last night and I 

711
00:33:10,790 --> 00:33:13,990
had Steve friend there who was 
on SWAT with the FBI was a local

712
00:33:13,990 --> 00:33:15,750
police officer. 
So he's got some good background

713
00:33:15,750 --> 00:33:17,030
on it. 
Gerreta Boyle, who I think is 

714
00:33:17,030 --> 00:33:20,750
sitting in our chat still also 
local police officer, former 

715
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:23,510
army, right. 
And then also was on FBI SWAT 

716
00:33:23,510 --> 00:33:25,430
and handled defensive tactics. 
As an instructor. 

717
00:33:25,510 --> 00:33:27,600
We had two really credible 
people. 

718
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,520
We had George Hill sit with us. 
George Hill can see the back end

719
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,000
of these things. 
He was on the Intel side of 

720
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,640
things that would that would 
launch these types of 

721
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680
investigations threats and 
things like that domestic 

722
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,320
terrorism investigations. 
And and I've been on like I said

723
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,280
I've been in dozens and dozens 
of SWAT briefings. 

724
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,400
It's what I used to do as a 
medic. 

725
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,240
I would sit there and and get 
the spun up. 

726
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:46,080
I'd be on the sheet. 
They'd have my name listed as 

727
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,320
you know Seraphin medic. 
You know, this is my job 

728
00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,800
whatever what vehicle I'd ride 
and I'd ride in the SWAT convoy,

729
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,800
in our in our transport vehicle 
and so on and when we went 

730
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,170
through that kind of stuff. 
The question is this, Yesterday 

731
00:33:58,250 --> 00:34:04,890
was August 9th and those threats
happened in mid March of the 

732
00:34:04,890 --> 00:34:08,690
same year. 
So we are what, four or five 

733
00:34:08,690 --> 00:34:11,730
months away from that? 
Why would they wait so long to 

734
00:34:11,730 --> 00:34:13,690
go after? 
And that was where we got to the

735
00:34:13,690 --> 00:34:16,290
last charge, which which was 
theoretically A violation of 18 

736
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:21,170
USC 870-1871, is the threats to 
the United States President. 

737
00:34:21,170 --> 00:34:23,409
That is almost always handled by
the United States Secret 

738
00:34:23,409 --> 00:34:25,650
Service. 
And I may be talking to our 

739
00:34:25,650 --> 00:34:27,090
friend Dan Bongino later on 
today. 

740
00:34:27,290 --> 00:34:29,170
Secret Service almost always 
handles these things. 

741
00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:33,010
So why was the FBI involved? 
And what I think probably 

742
00:34:33,010 --> 00:34:35,050
happened is, and we're just 
speculating a little bit here, 

743
00:34:35,290 --> 00:34:37,170
but it's under pretty good 
information. 

744
00:34:37,690 --> 00:34:39,889
There was one of two things that
happened in that original They 

745
00:34:39,889 --> 00:34:41,850
opened up that case and they 
were keeping it open because 

746
00:34:41,850 --> 00:34:42,929
they were keeping an eye on the 
guy. 

747
00:34:42,929 --> 00:34:45,370
And it's an open domestic 
terrorism investigation that's 

748
00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:47,770
good for the statistical 
accomplishments of the field 

749
00:34:47,770 --> 00:34:48,889
office. 
It's good for stats. 

750
00:34:49,170 --> 00:34:51,739
That's a metrics thing. 
So that's just like a cop 

751
00:34:51,739 --> 00:34:53,460
writing out a traffic ticket. 
That's part one. 

752
00:34:53,460 --> 00:34:55,739
That's one possibility. 
And the other possibility is, is

753
00:34:55,739 --> 00:34:57,620
something that's happened to me 
before, which is that you go out

754
00:34:57,620 --> 00:34:59,900
there, you build this case, 
you're like, look, this guy made

755
00:34:59,900 --> 00:35:01,900
a legit threat. 
It's troubling. 

756
00:35:02,140 --> 00:35:03,540
And by the way, he also 
threatened us. 

757
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:06,180
We've got two charges. 
You bring it to the assistant 

758
00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:09,140
United States Attorney, that's 
the federal prosecutor. 

759
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:12,780
And that person goes, that is a 
good case. 

760
00:35:13,140 --> 00:35:14,580
Yeah, we're going to take that 
to grand. 

761
00:35:14,580 --> 00:35:17,220
We've got grand jury coming back
in three weeks. 

762
00:35:17,420 --> 00:35:19,850
So let's do it then. 
And then they get busy and they 

763
00:35:19,850 --> 00:35:22,210
start working on other cases and
you're working on other cases 

764
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:24,250
and they forget about you and 
they don't put you on the on the

765
00:35:24,250 --> 00:35:26,530
docket and you don't get called 
in for grand jury for that time.

766
00:35:26,690 --> 00:35:28,650
And so they move on. 
And once that's happened, what 

767
00:35:28,650 --> 00:35:31,650
are two months now you're 
outside of the the likely 

768
00:35:32,330 --> 00:35:34,250
probability of being able to 
charge that successfully because

769
00:35:34,250 --> 00:35:36,010
you're going to go in front of a
grand jury and you can say this 

770
00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:38,170
guy's an imminent danger and 
he's a big deal and look he he 

771
00:35:38,170 --> 00:35:42,010
made these threats and the grand
jury foreman will say, well that

772
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:46,130
was in March and it's July. 
Has he acted on those threats 

773
00:35:46,130 --> 00:35:48,170
and. 
And then you go, no, he's not. 

774
00:35:48,740 --> 00:35:50,660
And then you have a much harder 
time of proving that case. 

775
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:52,460
And so often times those things 
get shelved. 

776
00:35:52,460 --> 00:35:54,300
It's like, well, we'll just wait
in case he makes some more. 

777
00:35:54,300 --> 00:35:57,060
Of course. 
Joe Biden was traveling to Utah.

778
00:35:57,260 --> 00:35:59,100
This guy started making threats 
against the president. 

779
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:01,940
Now you have an open case. 
You've got two potential charges

780
00:36:01,940 --> 00:36:03,900
that are sitting on your little 
investigative docket. 

781
00:36:04,060 --> 00:36:06,140
And then you have the third one.
It's against the president. 

782
00:36:06,140 --> 00:36:07,420
Normally, that would go to 
Secret Service. 

783
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:10,140
The FB i's got the open case. 
You move forward with that. 

784
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:11,980
And I think that is the most 
likely probability. 

785
00:36:12,420 --> 00:36:16,500
But here's the real, real thing.
How many threats against the 

786
00:36:16,500 --> 00:36:20,820
president do we remember when 
Donald Trump was president? 

787
00:36:21,500 --> 00:36:23,620
I just want you to do a little 
mental inventory, and Ryan's 

788
00:36:23,620 --> 00:36:26,020
going to give us a real good 
refresher of it, I think, right?

789
00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:28,580
Let's yeah, yeah, I got one 
queued up. 

790
00:36:28,580 --> 00:36:30,780
Whenever you're ready, OK, These
are threats against the 

791
00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:32,500
president, and I want you to 
think about how many of these 

792
00:36:32,500 --> 00:36:34,420
people experienced the SWAT team
coming through their door. 

793
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:35,820
Whenever you're ready, you can 
roll that for me. 

794
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:46,020
Yes, I have thought an awful lot
about blowing up the White 

795
00:36:46,020 --> 00:37:04,580
House. 
When was the last time? 

796
00:37:04,980 --> 00:37:13,020
An actor assassinated a 
president now. 

797
00:37:13,740 --> 00:37:16,380
I want to clarify, I'm not an 
actor. 

798
00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:27,100
I lie for a living. 
However, it's been a while and 

799
00:37:27,340 --> 00:37:31,460
maybe it's time. 
Well, I'd like to punch him in 

800
00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:44,850
the face. 
If you're not seeing that last 

801
00:37:44,850 --> 00:37:47,410
scene, that was the one of the 
great scenes that's probably 

802
00:37:47,410 --> 00:37:50,010
ever been filmed for performance
art. 

803
00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:53,090
That is Kathy Griffin, who was 
cancelled over this in some 

804
00:37:53,090 --> 00:37:57,690
ways, and she is holding a 
theatrical severed head that 

805
00:37:57,690 --> 00:37:59,610
appears to be a Donald Trump 
covered in blood. 

806
00:38:00,450 --> 00:38:03,190
That's charming. 
What a classy group of people 

807
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:05,030
those are. 
So you know, you have Madonna, 

808
00:38:05,030 --> 00:38:07,470
if you're not familiar with 
that, that that particular 

809
00:38:07,470 --> 00:38:08,430
quote, but she was standing 
there. 

810
00:38:08,430 --> 00:38:11,070
This was for the the Women's 
March when they were screaming 

811
00:38:11,070 --> 00:38:14,460
about him being elected. 
You've got a Snoop Dogg, which 

812
00:38:14,460 --> 00:38:16,500
was a video that if you you 
couldn't hear it was a rap video

813
00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,140
in the background. 
But he walks up to a Donald 

814
00:38:18,140 --> 00:38:21,740
Trump mime clown very clearly 
wearing the long, extra long red

815
00:38:21,740 --> 00:38:22,860
tie. 
It has the hair and all the 

816
00:38:22,860 --> 00:38:24,340
whole thing. 
He's wearing this clownish 

817
00:38:24,340 --> 00:38:27,140
makeup and he holds a revolver 
to his head and pulls the 

818
00:38:27,140 --> 00:38:28,780
trigger. 
You get the the gunshot sound 

819
00:38:28,780 --> 00:38:30,940
and there's a red flag bang that
drops down. 

820
00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:34,020
Then you got Johnny Depp, who 
claims he's not an actor but 

821
00:38:34,020 --> 00:38:37,960
someone who lies for a living. 
And and then lastly, Kathy 

822
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,520
Griffith. 
So these are all very famous 

823
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:43,040
people, a very high profile. 
And I think that the, the fact 

824
00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,120
is, is that we would probably 
defend these things even though 

825
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:49,680
they were an awful taste as 
being free speech that the, the 

826
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,720
1st Amendment is supposed to be 
about, you know, inflammatory 

827
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:55,360
speech and that stuff is pretty 
inflammatory. 

828
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,840
Killing people in effigy is 
highly distasteful. 

829
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,640
I think that if you had done 
that against Barack Obama, you 

830
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600
probably would have got the 
visit from the Secret Service. 

831
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,360
In fact, there's some pretty 
good evidence that that happened

832
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,310
to people. 
But if you do it to Donald 

833
00:39:07,310 --> 00:39:10,150
Trump, you're protected. 
And we didn't see those sort of 

834
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:11,710
things. 
I don't, you know, somebody 

835
00:39:11,710 --> 00:39:15,550
said, well, Kathy Griffin got a 
call from the Secret Service and

836
00:39:15,550 --> 00:39:17,990
and my answer to that is, is a 
call from the Secret Service is 

837
00:39:17,990 --> 00:39:20,310
exactly the same thing as a SWAT
team showing up, kicking in your

838
00:39:20,310 --> 00:39:21,590
window and killing you in your 
bed. 

839
00:39:22,350 --> 00:39:27,950
So there is pretty clearly a 
different standard, whether it 

840
00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:30,450
be my friend Garrett O Boyle 
getting called in front of 

841
00:39:30,450 --> 00:39:32,450
Congress and then told he's a 
liar for telling the truth under

842
00:39:32,450 --> 00:39:33,770
penalty of perjury, He told the 
truth. 

843
00:39:33,970 --> 00:39:36,890
And then you think that an FBI 
agent who basically has passed 

844
00:39:36,890 --> 00:39:39,970
polygraphs, multiple polygraphs 
and multiple full background 

845
00:39:39,970 --> 00:39:42,290
inspections to join the military
to be clear, to do the 

846
00:39:42,290 --> 00:39:44,970
operations he did then to do the
background check for being a 

847
00:39:44,970 --> 00:39:46,370
police officer. 
And then the same thing for the 

848
00:39:46,370 --> 00:39:47,690
FBI to get a top secret 
clearance. 

849
00:39:47,970 --> 00:39:52,010
That guy sat in front of 
Congress and lied over this guy 

850
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:54,010
Anthony Fauci who basically has 
been sitting in government long 

851
00:39:54,010 --> 00:39:56,450
enough to know that there are no
consequences for people of his 

852
00:39:57,050 --> 00:40:01,470
particular persuasion in any 
case that that to me is the two 

853
00:40:01,470 --> 00:40:04,270
tiered system and a lot of you 
are seeing it And so the real 

854
00:40:04,270 --> 00:40:06,390
question then becomes and this 
was brought up and I would have 

855
00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:10,030
never thought of this big tech 
is pretty strong on censorship. 

856
00:40:10,030 --> 00:40:12,670
In fact this entire episode 
might get pulled for all we know

857
00:40:12,670 --> 00:40:15,030
from the YouTube channel that we
have which we don't apparently. 

858
00:40:15,030 --> 00:40:16,870
Hold on let me look over here 
because I'm I'm I'm seeing it in

859
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:18,270
real. 
We have six people watching on 

860
00:40:18,270 --> 00:40:20,110
YouTube so if you're on on 
YouTube come join us. 

861
00:40:20,350 --> 00:40:23,110
Come join us over on on rumble. 
That's where the chat is. 

862
00:40:23,870 --> 00:40:27,040
But the the question is this. 
You guys have seen the 

863
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,840
censorship. 
You know what they go after. 

864
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,840
You know what gets shut down. 
Do you do any of you think in 

865
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,400
real life you could go out there
on a Facebook and post a bunch 

866
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,720
of death threats to prominent 
Democrats and get away with it? 

867
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,120
Is that plausible under any 
circumstances? 

868
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,200
Is that even likely at all? 
Or did the following happen in 

869
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,600
March when he made the first 
threat against Alvin Bragg that 

870
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,960
was credible? 
Did the FBI send over what's 

871
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,920
called a preservation letter? 
Preservation letter is one of 

872
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,960
the things that you would you 
it's legal process that asked 

873
00:40:57,960 --> 00:40:59,840
them to hold on to the account 
and not delete any of the 

874
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,000
information because you're going
to need it for for a future 

875
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,920
investigation or for an ongoing 
investigation. 

876
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,160
And then you have either 60 or 
90 days to go and write a 

877
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
subpoena and that or a search 
warrant and you can get the 

878
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,960
information from all that and 
then I'll send it over to you. 

879
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,400
So we know how Facebook 
operates. 

880
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,040
We know that Meta is a pretty 
leftist company. 

881
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,840
They're based in Silicon Valley.
They've got a bunch of people 

882
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,840
down here in Austin that are 
South of me and the people that 

883
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,420
work there, pretty left-leaning.
And I'm pretty sure that they 

884
00:41:22,420 --> 00:41:24,420
are no fan of Donald Trump. 
And I'm pretty sure that they 

885
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:26,900
would be protective of Alvin 
Bragg, who is attacking Donald 

886
00:41:26,900 --> 00:41:31,420
Trump. 
Here's a Here's an educated, 

887
00:41:32,660 --> 00:41:35,860
discomforting thought. 
Let's say imagine that you're 

888
00:41:35,860 --> 00:41:38,100
working at Facebook and you 
handle the preservation letters 

889
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:40,300
for threats, and you get that 
like you get so many others. 

890
00:41:40,300 --> 00:41:42,140
And then you go look at this 
guy's Facebook page and you see 

891
00:41:42,140 --> 00:41:45,140
the thing that mostly would be 
censored, would be pulled down 

892
00:41:45,140 --> 00:41:46,540
and he would have been cancelled
off Facebook. 

893
00:41:46,660 --> 00:41:49,060
That guy would be off Facebook. 
Period. 

894
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:51,170
One of two nefarious things 
could happen. 

895
00:41:51,210 --> 00:41:54,250
One, the FBI could ask, hey, 
leave it open. 

896
00:41:54,250 --> 00:41:55,810
We want to let him do whatever 
he's going to do. 

897
00:41:57,010 --> 00:41:58,650
That's not something that's in 
my experience, but it's a 

898
00:41:58,650 --> 00:42:00,930
possibility right now because we
don't have a lot of trust for 

899
00:42:00,930 --> 00:42:02,850
what the FBI is doing and 
there's certainly political 

900
00:42:02,850 --> 00:42:05,050
actors within it. 
So maybe they asked Facebook, 

901
00:42:05,210 --> 00:42:08,650
let him keep posting, give him 
all the rope that he wants to 

902
00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:11,770
hang himself on. 
That's a discomforting thought. 

903
00:42:12,170 --> 00:42:13,770
I think it's the lower the two 
possibilities. 

904
00:42:13,970 --> 00:42:16,170
The other possibility is, is 
someone at Facebook decides 

905
00:42:16,450 --> 00:42:19,050
we're going to give him that 
rope on our own because they can

906
00:42:19,050 --> 00:42:22,570
control their own platform. 
And when they do that, when they

907
00:42:22,570 --> 00:42:25,810
allow someone to go out there 
and put it all out there, you 

908
00:42:25,810 --> 00:42:28,570
end up getting more and more 
aggressive and violent and 

909
00:42:28,650 --> 00:42:30,970
selfradicalizing thoughts and 
all the things that happened 

910
00:42:30,970 --> 00:42:33,730
because people are seeing more 
and more ridiculous actions 

911
00:42:33,730 --> 00:42:36,050
happening in this country, 
multiple indictments of our 

912
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:39,490
former president, state and 
federal, right? 

913
00:42:40,490 --> 00:42:42,810
And so this guy finally makes a 
threat because the president of 

914
00:42:42,810 --> 00:42:46,290
the president of the United 
States is flying into his state 

915
00:42:46,330 --> 00:42:49,530
and he's pissed. 
And so he mouths off again on a 

916
00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:51,370
place where he would have 
otherwise been censored and shut

917
00:42:51,370 --> 00:42:54,130
down. 
Any of you think about putting a

918
00:42:54,130 --> 00:42:56,890
threat like that out on Twitter 
on true social, You probably get

919
00:42:56,890 --> 00:43:00,210
away with true social Put it out
on Facebook, put it out on 

920
00:43:00,210 --> 00:43:02,690
YouTube, Record yourself a video
doing one of these things. 

921
00:43:02,770 --> 00:43:04,850
You think if you held a severed 
Biden head that you're going to 

922
00:43:04,850 --> 00:43:07,410
be still platformed on any of 
those places, that they're going

923
00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:10,490
to keep you around? 
Or more likely than not, you're 

924
00:43:10,490 --> 00:43:12,410
going to get shut down before it
even gets any kind of 

925
00:43:12,410 --> 00:43:16,320
visibility. 
And yet this guy was able to put

926
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,080
all that stuff out there. 
They built a big body of 

927
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,560
evidence of it. 
They have a nice long criminal 

928
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,080
complaint with all the examples 
they show pictures of from his 

929
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:24,240
social media, and they showed 
pictures of all the angry memes 

930
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:25,880
that he was making. 
He's doing like these very 

931
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,560
colorful backgrounds with just 
like text, and he's typing them 

932
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:29,880
up. 
Seems also a little 

933
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:31,360
sophisticated for a 75 year old 
guy. 

934
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,360
Maybe there's a meme generator 
he's using because it's the kind

935
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,720
of the same picture, but they 
gave him an awful lot of rope. 

936
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:38,040
Whoever was allowed him to get 
out there and say his piece on 

937
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:41,280
platforms that we would expect 
him to not be allowed on. 

938
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,390
And the end result is that 
because of the way the FBI 

939
00:43:45,390 --> 00:43:47,310
handles these sorts of things, 
because of the way that they are

940
00:43:47,310 --> 00:43:50,910
calling people domestic 
terrorists, there is a big, wide

941
00:43:51,270 --> 00:43:55,510
and almost unlimited 
justification for using SWAT 

942
00:43:56,310 --> 00:43:59,190
when a knock on the door may 
have been appropriate. 

943
00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,150
There's a couple of ways you can
bring people into custody. 

944
00:44:01,150 --> 00:44:02,830
We talked about this last night 
and I'm going to share with you 

945
00:44:02,830 --> 00:44:06,630
guys as well, the easiest way to
bring anybody into custody, the 

946
00:44:06,630 --> 00:44:09,430
most effective way, I believe, 
to bring anybody into custody. 

947
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:10,750
And this is a way that is being 
used. 

948
00:44:10,750 --> 00:44:13,470
It's been used since the, you 
know, since the 90s and probably

949
00:44:13,470 --> 00:44:15,840
before that. 
When you want to get somebody 

950
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,320
into custody and they have the 
potential for violence, you 

951
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000
catch them when they are 
unawares, when they have their 

952
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,800
hands full, when they are away 
from where they would have 

953
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:24,920
weapons, You do it in a way that
they can safely be brought to 

954
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,040
heel. 
That is safe for your officers 

955
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:28,400
and it is safe for the 
individual. 

956
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,120
Those are the considerations 
Garrett used to say. 

957
00:44:33,100 --> 00:44:35,660
He told me that the, the, the 
qualifications you would have as

958
00:44:35,660 --> 00:44:39,100
a as a patrol cop, where do you 
do things that are justified and

959
00:44:39,100 --> 00:44:40,820
is it desirable? 
Is it something that you want to

960
00:44:40,820 --> 00:44:42,260
get engaged in? 
And I may have that word 

961
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:44,700
exactly, just a little bit 
tweaked off, but essentially, 

962
00:44:44,900 --> 00:44:47,940
can you make the safest decision
for the public and then also for

963
00:44:47,940 --> 00:44:50,340
the officers involved? 
And the way you do that is you 

964
00:44:50,340 --> 00:44:51,260
catch people when they're not 
ready. 

965
00:44:51,260 --> 00:44:52,380
I'm going to give you some 
examples. 

966
00:44:52,420 --> 00:44:54,180
This is going to change the way 
you pump gas, by the way. 

967
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:57,220
If you are standing at a gas 
pump, mostly you are looking at 

968
00:44:57,220 --> 00:44:59,060
your phone. 
You are putting a credit card 

969
00:44:59,060 --> 00:45:00,260
in, You are getting your wallet 
out. 

970
00:45:00,340 --> 00:45:02,260
You are not in your car where 
you may have a weapon. 

971
00:45:02,790 --> 00:45:05,990
Unless you are carrying a weapon
like some of us do, you are most

972
00:45:05,990 --> 00:45:07,390
likely not going to have access 
to weapons. 

973
00:45:07,390 --> 00:45:09,430
You're going to be in full 
visibility, in broad daylight in

974
00:45:09,430 --> 00:45:11,310
a well lit place. 
Even at night, there will be 

975
00:45:11,310 --> 00:45:14,910
light there that you could see, 
OK, and that is a really good 

976
00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:17,530
place to grab somebody. 
You approach somebody at a gas 

977
00:45:17,530 --> 00:45:19,410
station while they are pumping 
gas where they are doing 

978
00:45:19,410 --> 00:45:21,970
something else. 
They are distracted and that is 

979
00:45:21,970 --> 00:45:23,650
an advantage for both you and 
them. 

980
00:45:23,770 --> 00:45:26,450
They are unlikely to react in a 
dangerous and negative way 

981
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:28,650
because there's nowhere to go. 
They're usually blocked by a gas

982
00:45:28,650 --> 00:45:30,730
pump and a line. 
They've got a car. 

983
00:45:30,770 --> 00:45:32,890
You can block it off with two 
vehicles and people come in and 

984
00:45:32,890 --> 00:45:36,170
approach very gently and it's 
used very effectively. 

985
00:45:36,170 --> 00:45:39,180
It's been used in many states, 
and it's been used probably 

986
00:45:39,180 --> 00:45:40,980
internationally as well. 
Find people when they're 

987
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:42,220
unawares. 
Imagine this. 

988
00:45:42,260 --> 00:45:44,220
You are unloading your 
groceries. 

989
00:45:44,380 --> 00:45:46,780
You're just kind of pleased you 
bought groceries for the week. 

990
00:45:46,860 --> 00:45:48,060
You've got a bag full of 
groceries. 

991
00:45:48,060 --> 00:45:48,940
You're putting them in the 
trunk. 

992
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:52,140
You're not looking for a weapon.
People come up, two cars pull 

993
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,180
in, they come up really quickly 
and they jump out. 

994
00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:56,460
Or they come walking up from a 
side on a on a slow walk, and 

995
00:45:56,460 --> 00:45:58,060
they come up and they let you 
know, hey, you're under arrest. 

996
00:45:58,060 --> 00:45:59,060
We're going to take you into 
custody. 

997
00:45:59,060 --> 00:46:01,460
Go ahead and put that bag down. 
Are you going for a weapon right

998
00:46:01,460 --> 00:46:02,260
away? 
Probably not. 

999
00:46:02,300 --> 00:46:03,700
That's a really safe way to do 
things. 

1000
00:46:04,780 --> 00:46:06,300
Can you grab somebody at church?
You can. 

1001
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:08,600
It might look bad, but you can 
grab on the way out of church. 

1002
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,040
They're probably not doing the 
same thing there. 

1003
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,320
You can grab on the way into 
church. 

1004
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,680
You can grab on the way to work.
You can have a traffic stop 

1005
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:15,360
where you haven't stepped out of
the car because you want to show

1006
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,720
him something in the back and 
that's called a ruse and you put

1007
00:46:17,720 --> 00:46:19,520
cuffs on him. 
There are a lot of ways. 

1008
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,440
You bring an old man who weighs 
300 pounds and walks with a cane

1009
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:25,400
into custody where he is not 
standing around his AR15. 

1010
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,480
Where he is not going to grab a 
weapon out of the night stand. 

1011
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,280
And it's not 6:15 in the 
freaking morning with a glass 

1012
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:32,280
exploding next to him. 
And he doesn't know what's 

1013
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:35,160
happening because he has no 
frame of reference for that sort

1014
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:37,620
of thing. 
We call that surveillance into 

1015
00:46:37,620 --> 00:46:39,500
interdiction or tactical 
surveillance. 

1016
00:46:39,500 --> 00:46:41,380
Interdiction was the the FB I's 
buzzword. 

1017
00:46:41,380 --> 00:46:43,820
TSI is something my team did for
a living. 

1018
00:46:43,820 --> 00:46:45,660
That's like what we did. 
We followed people. 

1019
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:48,100
We watched people, We found 
where they were most safely able

1020
00:46:48,100 --> 00:46:49,500
to be interdicted and we would 
do it. 

1021
00:46:49,660 --> 00:46:51,980
Here's another one. 
You follow MS-13 gang members. 

1022
00:46:52,060 --> 00:46:54,340
Those guys like to use machetes.
They like to carry knives on 

1023
00:46:54,340 --> 00:46:55,860
their person. 
Do you know what they don't have

1024
00:46:56,100 --> 00:46:57,980
the ability to grab a knife with
when they have two cups of 

1025
00:46:57,980 --> 00:47:00,220
coffee because they're coming 
out of 711 and they're on their 

1026
00:47:00,220 --> 00:47:02,860
way to their construction job 
and it's 06/15 in the morning. 

1027
00:47:03,060 --> 00:47:05,500
So we would follow people till 
they stop to get something to 

1028
00:47:05,500 --> 00:47:08,070
eat, to get something to drink. 
On the way into the construction

1029
00:47:08,070 --> 00:47:10,470
site, bam, there's two guys 
standing outside the door. 

1030
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:12,510
They walk up behind you and they
let you know we don't even have 

1031
00:47:12,510 --> 00:47:15,030
to draw a gun. 
Everybody is safer for that. 

1032
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:18,110
That is a much better move. 
And so when you do that kind of 

1033
00:47:18,110 --> 00:47:21,230
stuff, you create an opportunity
for people to have trust in law 

1034
00:47:21,230 --> 00:47:22,390
enforcement. 
Like, hey, that was a pretty 

1035
00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:24,550
smart move. 
Did you use a tactic or a 

1036
00:47:24,550 --> 00:47:26,030
technique that made it safer? 
Yes. 

1037
00:47:26,110 --> 00:47:27,150
Was it good for the public? 
Yes. 

1038
00:47:27,310 --> 00:47:28,510
Did you still get the guy in 
custody? 

1039
00:47:28,510 --> 00:47:30,550
Yes. 
Did you mitigate the threat that

1040
00:47:30,550 --> 00:47:32,510
was made against the president? 
Yes. 

1041
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:34,910
Until, that is, the is the 
problem. 

1042
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:36,760
But here's what a lot of people 
don't understand. 

1043
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,880
The FBI has a lot of money for 
their SWAT program. 

1044
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,600
A lot of money, big time. 
They spend 10s of thousands of 

1045
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,280
dollars on a monthly basis for 
the stuff, for both training for

1046
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:47,080
simunitions, for specialty 
equipment. 

1047
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,840
They got cool guy robots. 
They're not even a reactive SWAT

1048
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,800
team. 
The SWAT teams do not get called

1049
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,080
out like your local Police 
Department. 

1050
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,360
If there's a barricaded subject,
they don't do local law 

1051
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:56,960
enforcement. 
These are for federal arrests 

1052
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:58,680
only, which are not all that 
frequent. 

1053
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,280
In DC We would have like one a 
week and we had something like 

1054
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,360
60 guys on the SWAT team. 
They had two different teams. 

1055
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,280
They would offer an alpha and 
Bravo would go on different on 

1056
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,280
different weeks. 
I was, you know, attached to 

1057
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:10,520
both of them when I was doing 
medic stuff. 

1058
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,600
So I would see them both. 
They're out there running, you 

1059
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:15,800
know, one arrest a week. 
This is not a high volume call 

1060
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,080
out. 
This is not a full Time Team. 

1061
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:18,440
These are part time tactical 
guys. 

1062
00:48:18,790 --> 00:48:20,870
They've got robots, they've got 
sophisticated equipment, they've

1063
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:23,070
got explosive devices, all this 
other kind of stuff. 

1064
00:48:23,070 --> 00:48:25,030
They can do explosive or I don't
know if they can do explosive 

1065
00:48:25,030 --> 00:48:27,270
breaches anymore. 
They certainly have the ability 

1066
00:48:27,270 --> 00:48:29,190
to do what they call like 
hydraulic breaches where they 

1067
00:48:29,190 --> 00:48:31,550
can snap the door frame. 
They got all these cool guy 

1068
00:48:31,550 --> 00:48:33,350
tools and they want to use them 
and they want to justify these 

1069
00:48:33,350 --> 00:48:35,230
budgets. 
And so how do you do that? 

1070
00:48:35,230 --> 00:48:38,510
You send them out for stuff. 
It is a default position that if

1071
00:48:38,510 --> 00:48:40,870
somebody owns a firearm and 
showed hostility towards law 

1072
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:43,030
enforcement, it is almost 
guaranteed. 

1073
00:48:43,190 --> 00:48:45,110
And by the way, hostility is 
like you wrote something like, 

1074
00:48:45,230 --> 00:48:47,670
you know, F the police or you 
think, you know, we can't trust 

1075
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:50,620
the cops on on a on a social 
media post that they find that's

1076
00:48:50,620 --> 00:48:52,500
enough. 
That checks the box. 

1077
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:55,260
There's an entire, what they 
call SWAT matrix where every 

1078
00:48:55,260 --> 00:48:58,220
single case agent in the Bureau 
who's going to do an arrest has 

1079
00:48:58,220 --> 00:49:01,260
to run down the list, check the 
boxes and then submit that to 

1080
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:02,940
the senior team leader for that 
SWAT team. 

1081
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:04,660
And then the SWAT team decides, 
hey, we're going to take this 

1082
00:49:04,660 --> 00:49:07,740
arrest and you can't do it. 
What could have been two agents 

1083
00:49:07,740 --> 00:49:10,700
knocking on the door in broad 
daylight saying, look, we do 

1084
00:49:10,700 --> 00:49:12,900
have an arrest warrant for you, 
you're on your way to the car, 

1085
00:49:12,900 --> 00:49:14,660
whatever it is, because that's 
where they encountered him the 

1086
00:49:14,660 --> 00:49:15,900
first time. 
We're shutting this thing down. 

1087
00:49:16,180 --> 00:49:17,820
They could have done that. 
They didn't. 

1088
00:49:18,910 --> 00:49:21,510
And it should bother everybody 
because what you have is 

1089
00:49:21,510 --> 00:49:24,750
somebody who's dead and you what
you have also, which many of us 

1090
00:49:24,750 --> 00:49:26,630
are seeing. 
And this is the problem with it,

1091
00:49:26,790 --> 00:49:30,630
is that this is a different 
experience than we saw under 

1092
00:49:30,630 --> 00:49:32,270
Donald Trump. 
There is a fundamentally 

1093
00:49:32,270 --> 00:49:35,150
different experience of being 
somebody who sounds unhinged, 

1094
00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:37,670
who's making dangerous threats. 
Those are dangerous threats. 

1095
00:49:37,870 --> 00:49:40,910
They may not be protected, but 
it's somebody who did it under 

1096
00:49:40,910 --> 00:49:43,710
the wrong president and he ended
up dead for it, as opposed to 

1097
00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:45,390
being a smart thing where you 
bring them in. 

1098
00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:53,270
So it's it's not hard to see why
people will be riled up about 

1099
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:54,950
this. 
And then I also started seeing 

1100
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:57,150
social media Twittering about 
it. 

1101
00:49:57,430 --> 00:49:59,350
The fact that Elon must change 
the name for Twitter, by the 

1102
00:49:59,350 --> 00:50:01,790
way, bothers me in a big way. 
But there's a lot of twittering 

1103
00:50:02,030 --> 00:50:04,470
out there in the social media 
sphere about how this guy wasn't

1104
00:50:04,470 --> 00:50:06,390
a lone wolf. 
He wasn't just a lone example 

1105
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:08,870
that lots of people on the right
wing are dangerous and and 

1106
00:50:08,870 --> 00:50:11,870
unhinged and they are all 
motivated by violent political 

1107
00:50:11,870 --> 00:50:13,470
rhetoric and right wing 
propaganda. 

1108
00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:16,350
I don't think it's propaganda to
call out what is real. 

1109
00:50:16,790 --> 00:50:18,950
What is real is we had a guy 
named Anthony Fauci who made a 

1110
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:20,870
bunch of money, who lied in 
front of Congress and is going 

1111
00:50:20,870 --> 00:50:23,590
to get a fundamentally different
experience and is far more 

1112
00:50:23,590 --> 00:50:26,910
comfortable with a referral from
Senator Rand Paul, which is a 

1113
00:50:26,910 --> 00:50:30,110
legit referral for his perjury. 
Because there is tons of 

1114
00:50:30,110 --> 00:50:32,270
testimony of that guy and 
there's also physical evidence 

1115
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:35,550
to back up that he probably lied
or Chris Ray doing the same 

1116
00:50:35,550 --> 00:50:37,110
thing. 
The fundamental experience is 

1117
00:50:37,110 --> 00:50:39,710
very different for people like 
Garrett of Boyle or Marcus 

1118
00:50:39,710 --> 00:50:41,340
Allen. 
And went in front of there and 

1119
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:43,820
had these noncredible 
accusations thrown out there and

1120
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:47,660
then breathlessly covered by the
New York Times and others, the 

1121
00:50:47,660 --> 00:50:50,660
idea that your celebrities are 
going to go out and make 

1122
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:52,460
threats. 
Those are pretty legit threats, 

1123
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:54,220
even though I don't think they 
had any intention of being 

1124
00:50:54,220 --> 00:50:56,980
involved in them. 
But they are no worse than what 

1125
00:50:56,980 --> 00:51:00,140
this guy was saying. 
When was the last time an actor?

1126
00:51:00,180 --> 00:51:02,220
Oh yeah, by the way, I'm an 
actor who who threatened the 

1127
00:51:02,220 --> 00:51:03,860
president when assassinated the 
president. 

1128
00:51:04,140 --> 00:51:05,380
That's the kind of thing we're 
talking about. 

1129
00:51:05,380 --> 00:51:08,540
It's been too long. 
Maybe it's time, you know, the 

1130
00:51:08,540 --> 00:51:10,730
whole thing is, he said. 
Maybe when you have these 

1131
00:51:10,730 --> 00:51:13,370
hypotheticals, you actually get 
a lot of Shields and carrying up

1132
00:51:13,370 --> 00:51:15,490
a thing in political effigy. 
Like people used to burn 

1133
00:51:15,530 --> 00:51:18,090
effigies as as political speech 
all the time. 

1134
00:51:18,090 --> 00:51:19,850
They would make it, make a 
dummy, they would hang them and 

1135
00:51:19,850 --> 00:51:21,450
burn them and so on. 
We saw it in Canada. 

1136
00:51:21,450 --> 00:51:23,890
We've seen it in the United 
States the last 100 years. 

1137
00:51:24,250 --> 00:51:26,930
It's a thing. 
It's ugly, but it's real and 

1138
00:51:26,930 --> 00:51:29,250
it's allowed because we have to 
have free debate and speech. 

1139
00:51:29,410 --> 00:51:30,570
People have to express 
themselves. 

1140
00:51:30,770 --> 00:51:33,970
The the upside of being able to 
use violent rhetoric sometimes 

1141
00:51:33,970 --> 00:51:35,170
is that they don't do actual 
violence. 

1142
00:51:35,170 --> 00:51:37,250
And this guy didn't seem like he
was probably that cable of it. 

1143
00:51:37,530 --> 00:51:39,250
You know, how the hell is he's 
going to get out there and do 

1144
00:51:39,250 --> 00:51:43,010
any of these things and yet he's
dead. 

1145
00:51:43,250 --> 00:51:46,090
He's dead as of yesterday 
because of these actions, 

1146
00:51:46,090 --> 00:51:48,410
because we have an unsympathetic
system, at least to one side of 

1147
00:51:48,410 --> 00:51:50,090
the coin. 
And I think many of you are are 

1148
00:51:50,090 --> 00:51:51,330
feeling that that is what's 
going on. 

1149
00:51:51,330 --> 00:51:53,890
So we're going to leave it at A.
Question for you, Kyle, on that.

1150
00:51:54,090 --> 00:51:57,090
Can I ask, can I ask one 
question with these cop 

1151
00:51:57,090 --> 00:51:58,690
officers, when they're doing 
these things, what is the 

1152
00:51:58,690 --> 00:52:03,290
difference between obviously a 
weapon, but what about one of 

1153
00:52:03,290 --> 00:52:05,890
these guns that is like 
nondeadly, like rubber bullets 

1154
00:52:05,890 --> 00:52:07,250
when you're shooting an 
assailant? 

1155
00:52:07,610 --> 00:52:08,970
Couldn't they have done this 
with? 

1156
00:52:09,390 --> 00:52:12,270
Without using lethal force, 
seems like those rubber bulls 

1157
00:52:12,270 --> 00:52:13,790
are going to stop a suspect 
right? 

1158
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:16,830
I know, but couldn't we couldn't
we get them or or make law 

1159
00:52:16,830 --> 00:52:19,190
enforcement like do you really 
need to kill somebody? 

1160
00:52:19,190 --> 00:52:21,670
Is there any a situation unless 
they have like an assault weapon

1161
00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:23,030
when obviously you got those in 
your car? 

1162
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:25,710
Couldn't we get police officers 
to carry non lethal weapons. 

1163
00:52:26,540 --> 00:52:28,900
We're getting into the the deep 
weeds of whether you know what 

1164
00:52:28,900 --> 00:52:31,740
tactics are allowed and not 
under DOJ's policy they don't 

1165
00:52:31,740 --> 00:52:33,620
actually allow that. 
The the what they call less than

1166
00:52:33,620 --> 00:52:35,980
lethal options are pepper spray.
That's one thing. 

1167
00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:38,940
They can use a gas they can use 
like a CS gas which they can 

1168
00:52:38,940 --> 00:52:41,380
throw in but that has to have 
special authorization So you can

1169
00:52:41,380 --> 00:52:46,300
drive people out for that or you
can go and use batons and those 

1170
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:48,620
are you know basically not the 
most functional as far as rubber

1171
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:50,940
bullets. 
That's not under DOJ's think 

1172
00:52:50,940 --> 00:52:53,260
those can be just as lethal. 
There are areas that where they 

1173
00:52:53,260 --> 00:52:55,700
use those, like Bureau of 
Prisons has access. 

1174
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:58,160
I think Homeland Security has 
access to them. 

1175
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:00,200
I think Bo Attack has them. 
There's a couple of groups that 

1176
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,000
do, but it's not an FBI tool. 
So in this case there are SWAT 

1177
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,040
teams that do. 
But here's the real question, 

1178
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:07,960
what was the imminent danger 
once you had that guy contained 

1179
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,760
in his house? 
And it's very easy, by the way, 

1180
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:13,360
I've been on surveillance of of 
terrorism targets where we just 

1181
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:17,640
babysat them 24/7 surveillance 
for weeks to make sure they 

1182
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,520
didn't do anything stupid. 
And we were prepared to react 

1183
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:21,880
and we never had to. 
I never once had to react to one

1184
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,560
of these people. 
It was always contingency. 

1185
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,600
Did you see the video right here
of these? 

1186
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:29,760
This was the neighbor film this.
I don't know if you saw that you

1187
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,480
want to play the audio so people
can hear it. 

1188
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:32,240
Yeah. 
I'll I'll tell you what's. 

1189
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:36,440
Give me one second. 
Yep, we're going to re queue up 

1190
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:37,960
this video folks. 
So this is supposedly from the 

1191
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:41,040
neighbor's cell phone you're 
seeing. 

1192
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:42,720
You're going to re queue up with
audio. 

1193
00:53:59,150 --> 00:54:00,510
That's as loud as I can make it,
Kyle. 

1194
00:54:00,510 --> 00:54:16,870
Yeah, you're good. 
All right, so that was the 

1195
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:17,470
flash. 
Bang. 

1196
00:54:19,010 --> 00:54:20,770
So what happened is you got a 
bunch of SWAT guys that are 

1197
00:54:20,770 --> 00:54:22,890
standing out behind a BearCat or
or I can't tell if it's a 

1198
00:54:22,890 --> 00:54:25,610
BearCat or a pickup truck from 
that from that lighting and 

1199
00:54:25,770 --> 00:54:27,530
they've got their lights 
activated so they've clearly 

1200
00:54:27,530 --> 00:54:29,330
identified who they are. 
You hearing screaming I actually

1201
00:54:29,330 --> 00:54:31,570
hadn't heard the you did pretty 
good with that volume so you can

1202
00:54:31,570 --> 00:54:33,450
actually hear there's a back and
forth going on from whatever's 

1203
00:54:33,450 --> 00:54:36,450
inside and and they threw a 
flash bang and then that's the 

1204
00:54:36,450 --> 00:54:37,890
end of the video. 
I think the the neighbor 

1205
00:54:37,890 --> 00:54:39,650
probably dropped the phone and 
was probably scared. 

1206
00:54:40,050 --> 00:54:43,650
But what what you've got going 
on there is a pretty standard 

1207
00:54:43,650 --> 00:54:46,320
sort of call out. 
But they're you know The thing 

1208
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,840
is you can sit in that BearCat 
all day long. 

1209
00:54:47,840 --> 00:54:49,720
The guy can sit and shoot at it 
all day long and it's not going 

1210
00:54:49,720 --> 00:54:51,520
to do anything. 
It's dangerous to the neighbors 

1211
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,760
maybe and that may create 
something but we're talking 

1212
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,000
about you. 
You instigated with that that 

1213
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,400
flash bang which was clearly 
supposed to be a distraction and

1214
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,480
maybe that maybe that triggered 
the guy to to lift up a weapon 

1215
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,240
or you know most people have no 
idea what to do. 

1216
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,360
They've never been hit with a 
flash bang, unless you've. 

1217
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:08,840
Been Why did they throw it 
outside the house? 

1218
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,840
It's pretty common to throw it 
outside of a window or something

1219
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,400
like that. 
But like I said, you can beat. 

1220
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:15,990
This will probably be a 
justified shooting, right? 

1221
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:17,510
They are going to. 
Most likely I will. 

1222
00:55:17,510 --> 00:55:19,190
I will be. 
I would be shocked because I've 

1223
00:55:19,190 --> 00:55:20,830
got a friend that's on that team
that wasn't there. 

1224
00:55:20,830 --> 00:55:22,790
And he said it's very 
straightforward what happened. 

1225
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:24,630
And that means the guy probably 
came out with a weapon. 

1226
00:55:24,790 --> 00:55:26,470
You know, he's probably still 
confused. 

1227
00:55:26,510 --> 00:55:27,710
And it sounds like he was 
arguing. 

1228
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:28,870
I actually hadn't heard the 
arguing. 

1229
00:55:28,870 --> 00:55:30,990
So let's go with that. 
He's yelling at those people 

1230
00:55:31,270 --> 00:55:32,950
he's engaged in and you know, 
aggression. 

1231
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:35,990
He's decided he's going to, he's
done with this 75 years old and 

1232
00:55:35,990 --> 00:55:38,550
he's got a rough life. 
Maybe he decided to pick up a 

1233
00:55:38,550 --> 00:55:41,470
gun, or maybe he was already 
carrying a gun and they were 

1234
00:55:41,470 --> 00:55:44,060
trying to talk him out of it. 
But there's easier ways to do 

1235
00:55:44,060 --> 00:55:45,220
it. 
And that's my point, is that 

1236
00:55:45,220 --> 00:55:48,620
there, just because sometimes in
the medical world we talk about 

1237
00:55:48,780 --> 00:55:52,100
if you choose your doctor, you 
choose your diagnosis, you might

1238
00:55:52,100 --> 00:55:53,980
choose your outcome when you 
choose your type of law 

1239
00:55:53,980 --> 00:55:55,940
enforcement engagement. 
Right? 

1240
00:55:56,500 --> 00:55:59,340
A, a local cop approaching this 
guy at at a while he's out in 

1241
00:55:59,340 --> 00:56:02,260
public would have been a very 
different scenario than what we 

1242
00:56:02,260 --> 00:56:03,580
saw here. 
And there's no question that 

1243
00:56:03,660 --> 00:56:05,980
that would have been an option. 
But the FBI doesn't have the 

1244
00:56:05,980 --> 00:56:07,140
humility to do it. 
And of course they're 

1245
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:09,020
incentivized to use these SWAT 
teams, which cost a lot of 

1246
00:56:09,020 --> 00:56:10,690
money. 
They got to send these guys out.

1247
00:56:10,690 --> 00:56:12,170
These guys spend time training 
every week. 

1248
00:56:12,170 --> 00:56:14,290
So we got to justify it. 
And when they're all done with 

1249
00:56:14,290 --> 00:56:16,130
that, usually they get to go and
have breakfast, they go knock 

1250
00:56:16,130 --> 00:56:18,170
down a door, they go drag you 
out, they put you in handcuffs. 

1251
00:56:18,330 --> 00:56:21,850
It's over by, you know, 7:30 in 
the morning and and then the day

1252
00:56:21,850 --> 00:56:25,010
is over, go take a shower and 
high five and go to Denny's and 

1253
00:56:25,010 --> 00:56:26,890
sit there. 
And that's pretty common and 

1254
00:56:27,130 --> 00:56:29,890
that's a good six figure gig if 
you can do it for a team that 

1255
00:56:29,890 --> 00:56:32,770
is, you know, part time tactical
or in the rare instance like 

1256
00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:35,930
this, you end up shooting 
somebody because your tactics 

1257
00:56:35,930 --> 00:56:39,330
that you've done over and over 
again are tactics that involve 

1258
00:56:39,650 --> 00:56:41,170
the possibility of dealing 
lethal force. 

1259
00:56:41,730 --> 00:56:43,810
And somebody on the other end of
it may pay with that because 

1260
00:56:43,810 --> 00:56:45,050
they don't know how to deal with
what you do. 

1261
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:47,370
You're supposed to go in there 
and blitz them fast enough that 

1262
00:56:47,370 --> 00:56:50,050
they don't see what's happening.
And it's supposed to be safer in

1263
00:56:50,050 --> 00:56:52,410
that theory that the sort of 
speed, surprise and violence of 

1264
00:56:52,410 --> 00:56:54,850
action is what they call them, 
that the triangles of CQB. 

1265
00:56:55,050 --> 00:56:57,050
It's supposed to make you go in 
and make it safer for everybody 

1266
00:56:57,050 --> 00:56:58,330
else. 
But the most dangerous thing you

1267
00:56:58,330 --> 00:57:00,730
can do in law enforcement is go 
into an unknown home. 

1268
00:57:01,690 --> 00:57:03,370
And the only reason you should 
be doing that is to be able to 

1269
00:57:03,370 --> 00:57:05,610
protect life. 
There's no other really good 

1270
00:57:05,610 --> 00:57:07,010
reason to go do that. 
They could have grabbed this guy

1271
00:57:07,010 --> 00:57:08,610
anywhere. 
And so that bothers me. 

1272
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:11,800
The tactic bothers me. 
What they did once they were 

1273
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:13,520
there, I'm sure it was all up by
the book. 

1274
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,040
And that's and that's the real 
problem that we're dealing with.

1275
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:19,280
We're dealing with something 
where it doesn't matter if they 

1276
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:24,040
were okay with, you know, steps 
CD&E because the A and B 

1277
00:57:24,040 --> 00:57:26,280
decisions that led to them being
there in the 1st place may have 

1278
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:29,320
been really, really misguided. 
And a lot of it comes from just 

1279
00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:33,080
bad awareness and a non nimble 
organization that refuses to do 

1280
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,960
better techniques even though 
they exist and they have for a 

1281
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:37,190
long time. 
So we're going to wrap it up 

1282
00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:39,590
right there. 
Let's let's let's say we 

1283
00:57:40,110 --> 00:57:41,950
hopefully have this guest back. 
We had Moneypenny who was 

1284
00:57:41,950 --> 00:57:42,950
supposed to talk to us about 
COVID. 

1285
00:57:42,950 --> 00:57:44,070
Long haul. 
So we'll do it again and I'll 

1286
00:57:44,070 --> 00:57:45,070
update the show notes for you 
guys. 

1287
00:57:45,270 --> 00:57:47,310
Didn't mean to go into a rant 
about this, but I do think this 

1288
00:57:47,310 --> 00:57:48,750
is something that's going to be 
bothering people. 

1289
00:57:48,830 --> 00:57:50,790
It'll get swept under the rug if
they can find anything else. 

1290
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:52,750
I also want you to just think 
about this for one one second. 

1291
00:57:53,150 --> 00:57:55,590
We've got pictures of this guy 
social media right now. 

1292
00:57:55,950 --> 00:57:59,110
We've got pictures of his, his 
bad tweets right now. 

1293
00:57:59,110 --> 00:58:02,230
Does anyone remember what the 
manifesto said about the the 

1294
00:58:02,230 --> 00:58:05,080
transgender chick that was out 
there shooting up little kids at

1295
00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:06,960
a school? 
Do you did you get that memo? 

1296
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,120
Did you see what that look like,
Ryan? 

1297
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,560
Oh yeah, got it right here. 
Yeah. 

1298
00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:15,200
So just the speed of the news 
and the addressing of the of the

1299
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,400
story, it should bother you 
dramatically. 

1300
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,000
This is the two tier and it's 
multiple fronts. 

1301
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:25,160
It's media and it's government 
and and it's and it's a it's a 

1302
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:26,640
full court press in so many 
ways. 

1303
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:27,840
We've already got this picture 
out here. 

1304
00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,920
We had this yesterday just 
seconds after he was killed. 

1305
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,120
We knew he was a bad dude, but 
we didn't have that stuff. 

1306
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,000
They didn't want to leak out the
the footage of anything that was

1307
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,280
going on in in Nashville in the 
school. 

1308
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:40,120
So that is that is something we 
should all be aware of. 

1309
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:42,520
Like I said, the message 
campaign sometimes is the weapon

1310
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:43,640
system. 
That's what happens in an 

1311
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,360
information war. 
And with that sour note we'll 

1312
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,240
let you know that we have been 
streaming this live from Liberty

1313
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,800
Hill, TX. 
Thank you for staying with us 

1314
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,760
through the glitches and some of
the weird things that were going

1315
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,120
on. 
Hopefully Rumble gets their act 

1316
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:54,120
together. 
We do appreciate it. 

1317
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,880
You can always join us on 
rumble@rumble.com/kyle Serafin 

1318
00:58:58,040 --> 00:58:59,960
and we'd be happy to have you 
join us in the live chat. 

1319
00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,360
Thanks all of you for sticking 
taking around those of you that 

1320
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,680
were there and we also really 
appreciate you leaving us a 5 

1321
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:08,800
star review on Apple podcast. 
The link is in the description 

1322
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:11,200
of all of our show notes. 
You go down there nearly 650 

1323
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,600
reviews so far. 
We are rated at five stars and 

1324
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,400
here you go. 
This is 1 from Haas Dresden. 

1325
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,080
What a great name. 
Haas Dresden. 

1326
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,240
Haas Dresden says fantastic. 
Top of the charts were the 

1327
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:25,040
podcast Five stars. 
This is such an amazing podcast.

1328
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,920
First heard about Kyle when Dan 
Bongino interviewed him and 

1329
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:31,080
discovered this content later. 
I love the flow of the show, 

1330
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:34,040
actual content, guests, and 
especially how Kyle interacts 

1331
00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:36,240
with the producers. 
Hey, how about that, Ryan? 

1332
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,640
There's some love for you guys 
and for for our emeritus 

1333
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,960
producer. 
Phil, thanks so much for putting

1334
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:43,320
yourselves out there. 
And Godspeed. 

1335
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:46,040
Thank you. 
Godspeed to you, Haas Dresden. 

1336
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,540
Man, I love that. 
I just like, no, no, that's a 

1337
00:59:48,540 --> 00:59:49,340
really that's. 
A sweet name. 

1338
00:59:49,340 --> 00:59:51,700
It's a sweet name. 
Well done. 

1339
00:59:52,460 --> 00:59:55,180
I will be like, I'll be hearing 
that in my name, you know over 

1340
00:59:55,260 --> 00:59:57,020
That's like Snake Pliskin. 
It's like one of those names 

1341
00:59:57,020 --> 00:59:59,460
that kind of sticks with you. 
We do really appreciate you guys

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coming in here. 
We want to say hopefully we'll 

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get a guest on there. 
If you're not following Ryan 

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Matta you could find some stuff.
I actually boosted one of his 

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one of his threats today. 
You can find him on Twitter at 

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Ryan Matta Media MATTA. 
He does a morning show that you 

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can do and you can also see him 
in the afternoon on LFATV. 

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So check out Ryan Matta Twitter.
And then on Truth. 

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He is at Ryan Matta. 
MATTA, just Ryan Maddow on True 

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Social. 
Don't forget to like this video 

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on your way out the door. 
If you guys are going down 

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there, scroll on down. 
Make sure that thumbs up is 

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green. 
We really do appreciate you 

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01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:28,140
doing that. 
Subscribe if you're not already 

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01:00:28,380 --> 01:00:30,820
anywhere that you're hearing 
this and share this thing if you

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like. 
We will see again tomorrow for 

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Friendly Friday. 
Ryan's going to have the day 

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off. 
He's traveling to go see some 

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wild stuff down on the Texas 
border, I think so. 

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We are going to have a friendly 
Friday and we'll see how we do a

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solo and hopefully rumble 
cooperates. 

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I hope you guys have a great 
rest of your day and I may be 

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talking to Glenn Beck here in 
just a few minutes. 

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So if you want to check out 
Glenn Beck's radio or Dan 

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Bonginos, you might hear me a 
little bit further today. 

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We'll talk to you all soon. 
Thanks for listening to The Kyle

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Serraphin Show, streamed live 
weekdays on rubble.com. 

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Kyle Serraphin Follow Kyle on 
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