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Prepared to hear the truth from 
a real whistleblower and 

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American patriot? 
Here's civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender and indefinitely 

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suspended FBI agent Kyle 
Serafin. 

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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you 
for joining us for the Kyle 

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Seraphin Show. 
Today is Wednesday, December 

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14th. 
I've got it slightly later than 

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normal. 
We've got 4:15 in the afternoon 

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here. 
And I've got with me producer 

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Phil, who's going to be keeping 
us on track. 

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I hope today's episode is going 
to be called. 

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What started as a passion has 
become a paycheck. 

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I think this is a common 
sentiment for people in the FBI.

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It's something that has 
identified or people have 

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identified with when I've spoken
to them, former agents, current 

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agents. 
And I've had at least three long

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form conversations today with 
friends of mine in the Bureau in

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various different places, you 
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experience and and seniority. 
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that. 
Like, right now, people in the 

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FBI that want to keep their job 
are tucking in and they're 

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holding on, and they are trying 
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A good friend of mine told me 
that he was able to kind of keep

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a job that is sort of 
administrative right now as long

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as he wants. 
And there's this constant fear 

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that you text the wrong thing to
the wrong person. 

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You send the wrong e-mail with a
sentiment that offends some sort

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of sensitive group. 
And that could be the end for 

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you. 
It's very similar to the kind of

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experience that I've had. 
And, you know, you step on the 

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wrong toes and that's where you 
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So what started as a passion to 
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I first actually heard that from
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couple of years ago. 
Phil, when did you first realize

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that that was the case for you, 
bud? 

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Well, I think it starts even 
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job. 
Do you remember when you were at

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the Academy and maybe like day 
one, day 2, they asked the 

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question something to the effect
of, hey, who took a pay cut to 

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actually join the FBI? 
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hands in the class go up. 
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most of these folks were 
probably professionals before 

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and AGS 10 step one really isn't
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like that, $1000 a year kind of 
deal. 

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So when you're 30 years old and 
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is hiring professionals, you're 
probably statistically making 

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more than that. 
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well, who would do that? 
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they got making more money 
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Well, it's somebody who wanted a
job that seemed noble to protect

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their fellow Americans from 
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ultimately discover, oh, that's 
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right? 
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organization that is in the 
appearance of fighting crime 

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business, not the crime fighting
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So that's the truth. 
That's yeah, that's when a 

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paycheck is no longer a passion.
I've had a an ongoing 

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discussion. 
Phil and I used to sit on 

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surveillance together sometimes 
and we would have these funny 

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little conversations where I 
said the FBI is in the business 

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of law enforcement cosplay, 
specifically federal law 

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enforcement cosplay, which is to
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doing law enforcement. 
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were related to law enforcement 
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And yet a lot of it is cartoon 
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to the fact that everybody shows
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they wear clothes that they have
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firearm shoot and that one. 
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khakis. 
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baseball hat they wore when they
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It's just performative. 
They put on a leather holster 

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that they would never use and 
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You know, they carry 3 
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Like that's something they're 
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which is absurd. 
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walk around with three magazines
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and you have a duty belt, but 
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there's three magazine changes 
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And so that's what they do. 
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silly. 
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changes out of my pocket 
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carry a magazine in a pocket. 
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that I would carry if I was 
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to shoot somebody or defend my 
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carry more than two And I always
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the range because that's, that's
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carry guns do. 
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times. 
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not serious people in the FBI 
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serious people than me. 
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It's just one of those things 
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interesting. 
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pension, it's it's dangerous. 
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those hands that did not go up. 
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made, while I take that back, I 
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the military. 
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and I was making $35,000 a year 
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emergency room and also on an 
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There's not a lot of pay in 
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There's a lot of responsibility.
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FBI agents handle daily. 
You know, it's someone's grandma

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that's dying right there. 
It's a husband that's having a 

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heart attack that still has 
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There's a lot of kind of gravity
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paramedics very, very little 
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only requires a high school 
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And so, you know, I, I did that 
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my salary. 
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was a stay at home dad with no 
kids be directly before the 

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Academy. 
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My wife was earning and we went 
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student loans. 
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should talk about is that the, 
IT was mentioned on my Twitter 

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feed today that having debt and 
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credit card or car, you know, 
anything outside of a mortgage 

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that that long term, you know, 
tied to a property debt really 

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leaves you in a vulnerability 
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you've got to do what you're 
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And that culture, that debt 
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know, that we all live in has 
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the national security realm. 
I think you're going to have to 

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do things that you may not be 
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otherwise they come and take all
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All your toys are gone. 
They're going to come and 

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they're going to wreck your 
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You'll never be able to buy 
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A lot of my colleagues are in 
that position where they are not

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necessarily paycheck to 
paycheck, but they are debt 

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payment to debt payment service 
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they may not be able to meet 
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paycheck that they they signed 
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They've they've over leveraged 
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I think it's a national security
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I think the fact that I did not 
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exception of my mortgage when I 
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forward, you know, step out and 
speak forward, that's the same 

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decision that Stephen Friend 
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We both had financial safety 
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ourselves. 
I think that is a critical, 

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critical requirement. 
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was an early, you know, early in
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the surveillance squad. 
We're out there in the cold, and

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it's the first sequester that I 
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FBI continued to ask us to go to
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pay us Maybe that we ended up 
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then one was delayed for a 
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It was not a significant life 
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And I had senior agents 2025 
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supervisor, who were concerned 
whether or not they were going 

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to be able to meet their 
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They were talking about how Navy
federal credit was extending 

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paychecks, basically, and they 
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deposits. 
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direct deposits that were 
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Even if the direct deposit 
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credit it against your account 
so people could make that, you 

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know, make ends meet, which is 
insane because at that point in 

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time, I was making, you know, 80
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And the FBI salary for for 
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your first year, you're making, 
you know, somewhere between 60 

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and 70,000, depending on the 
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And then it climbs up. 
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five years in, which is the 10 
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level, the base pay with no 
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living adjustment is like 
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It's something right around that
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So you know, people in TC are 
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Francisco maybe 100 and 38140. 
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That's a pretty good salary for 
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do. 
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you because you're the best in 
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That's an absurd contention. 
What they should be paying you 

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for is that you have absolutely 
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you cannot be purchased. 
They're pre paying that you will

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do the right thing because, you 
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detectives work for far less and
do a lot more on the ground 

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direct impact on the the public 
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But the idea is, is that a 
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reproach that when you make a 
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When you do it, it's for the 
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and you do not have any, you 
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going to slow you down. 
So it's worth noting that that's

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kind of the, the expectation. 
And there's something very 

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dangerous about people who are 
looking for a canned food 

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kitchen in the basement of the 
Washington field office where I 

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was. 
And I'm, I'm telling you my, the

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agents I worked with made 
$175,000 a year. 

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They were at the top of the 
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They maxed out the pay grade as 
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enforcement availability. 
So I'm talking specific numbers 

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because I think a lot of people 
do not have a concept of what an

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FBI paycheck is. 
Nobody gets rich like nobody 

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gets filthy rich being an FBI 
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agent level, which is to say the
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$175,000 though is a comfortable
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And some of these folks are, you
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the same house. 
If you have a spouse that's 

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making 607080 or 100 or if 
you've got 2 GS thirteens, which

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happens, or AGS 13 and a 14, you
know, you're, you're talking 

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about a $350,000 a year 
household. 

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That's a significant amount of 
money, at least in my 

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experience, because like I've, 
I've lived on $35,000 a year and

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I could do it. 
I'm living on less than that 

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right now because I gave up my 
salary and I gave up my house. 

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And you know, you got to cut, 
you got to tighten your belt up.

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But that's something that many 
of you should probably be 

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familiar with, especially my 
friends who are in law 

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enforcement, my folks who are in
the military, you know, officers

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make a decent paycheck, but none
of them are getting rich. 

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It's the same kind of idea. 
So the idea that you're going to

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let the passion that you had to 
come in and do the right thing 

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get taken over by just 
maintaining this paycheck. 

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It happens when you're in a debt
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when the agency doesn't live up 
to your expectations, It doesn't

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do the job that it it swears 
it's going to do. 

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And and then people take that 
on, They, they become that 

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person that's just doing enough 
to get by. 

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It's just five more years. 
That's a terrible way to live, 

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live your life. 
There's very few people that 

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could do that and maintain the 
same focus and the same kind of 

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integrity, I would say. 
So that's kind of what we're 

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looking at. 
I want to talk about, I have a 

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couple of notes here, so I'm 
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of the cult, the cultural 
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folks are starting to kind of 
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I'll give a concrete example is 
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screws the pooch and they are 
the ones who often times do this

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sort of thing. 
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does a backflip in a, in a 
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know, shoot somebody in the leg.
That's a moron move. 

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I think the guy was probably a 
nice guy. 

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He just blew it, you know, and 
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signs on a night that I won't 
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anybody, but I will say that 
like mistakes happen to a lot of

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us for a lot of reasons. 
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are kind of excusable 
foolishness. 

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You know, he got in trouble 
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But I'm talking about kind of 
the serious darkness that exists

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when we're talking about sort of
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It's it's the banal kind of 
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something that they think is 
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beliefs. 
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agency's credibility and sell 
out people like Phil and I to do

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something that they think is 
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it has, you know, it's, it's not
what the FBI does. 

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So a very specific example was 
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I have two daughters and I've 
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few things that get my blood 
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I think that is almost universal
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that I've dealt with. 
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crimes against children work as 
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work you can do. 
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and traffickers is something 
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the Bureau, nobody would object 
to being assigned to that. 

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And the people that would, I 
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Let's just be clear about that. 
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local cops. 
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after people hurting kids, I 
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I have a very tangible 
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I've, I've taken children out of
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as like 18 months old when I was
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Children's Hospital for 
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You know, it's everything that a
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somebody in the ground when they
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who's 18 months old down the 
stairs. 

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I have an 18 month old. 
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thing. 
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disgusting monster move. 
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it, you know, they're lucky to 
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experience the full wrath of 
what people who are in prison, 

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who are abused experience. 
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righteous work. 
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happened with Larry Nasser's 
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how it happened. 
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far as I can tell, a federal 
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There may be some Interstate 
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in, but the actual abuse 
individually is a local criminal

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issue. 
For a physician to betray his, 

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you know, oath that he has the 
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position of power, particularly 
a government doctor like this to

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take advantage of young women, 
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Someone reported that to an FBI 
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office. 
Does that sound right, Phil? 

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Yeah, that sounds right. 
I'll pull it up here while 

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you're. 
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confirm that, but I believe it 
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I, I don't know if it's every 
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was, we're all what's called 
mandated reporters of child 

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abuse. 
My wife is in the same scenario.

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She's a a marriage and family 
therapist. 

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So when you are a mandated 
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strictly speaking like liability
to do anything about it, you are

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required by law to continue to 
report and make sure that this 

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information gets passed to the 
right authorities. 

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The agent who had this 
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may have been a her actually, I 
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brick agent that was involved in
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The supervisor went to the ASAC.
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the chain. 
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to 13 is kind of your entry 
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were girl is called a special 

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agent in charge. 
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which is senior executive 
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If you followed me at all, you 
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Trump had an issue with them. 
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state, they're the issue that 
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ways in DC. 
They're the problem. 

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So when we talk about actually 
Sam Britton randomly, like the 

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guy who stole the luggage that 
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was an SES, you know, usually 
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employee randomly. 
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non politically appointed, you 
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into that because I don't think 
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Senate confirmation hearing. 
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that got the input that that 
Larry Nasser was doing these 

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things to these girls took it to
the 14, the 14 brought to the 

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ASAC. 
The ASAC said, hey, look, you 

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know, boss, this is to the to 
the SES level. 

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We've got a serious problem 
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very notable, what we would call
a sensitive investigative 

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matter. 
And the FBI handles sensitive 

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investigative matters very 
specifically. 

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They've got a whole, you know, 
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what that looks like and, and 
who is involved and, and whether

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or not they get certain 
protections. 

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But essentially it just it 
Shields the case from every 

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scrutiny outside of the normal 
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you know, query our internal 
file servers and they get a 

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little bit of extra, I won't say
leeway, but they get a little 

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extra privacy within the FB is 
investigative process. 

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And so it's shielded from a lot 
of eyes and not everybody can 

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can get involved in it and so 
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So you usually have to be a case
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investigation. 
So this would have been a SIM. 

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Larry Nast would have been a 
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entity that would have been 
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he's a he's a physician and so 
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And he was working for the the 
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gymnastics team for the USA 
Olympic Committee. 

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Here's where it gets to be a 
problem. 

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The special agent in charge and 
Phil's going to confirm the 

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office had a sitting job offer 
in retirement. 

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Was it Indianapolis? 
Yes. 

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Yeah. 
OK. 

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So the special agent in charge 
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understanding was it was like a 
security position for the United

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States Olympic Committee or it 
may have been for USA Gymnastics

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specifically. 
But regardless, it was related 

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to and it was a conflict of 
interest situation to go and go 

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against what Larry Nassar was 
doing who is representing US 

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gymnastics. 
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brought it all the way up the 
chain and was told like this has

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been handled and then it was not
handled and girls were abused 

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for longer. 
And the FBI could have gotten 

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out in front of it and reported 
to local authorities and made 

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the credible allegations and 
assisted if necessary. 

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But more likely not just been a 
pass through of the information 

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to the people that needed to go 
do that, that local 

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investigation and stop this 
monster who was abusing the 

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trust of these girls. 
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And So what that tells us is 
that the failure was at the top.

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So the executive management, the
senior executive service in this

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case screwed it up. 
And then the result was guys 

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like Phil and I got hit with 
what we call a virtual Academy. 

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Anybody who's familiar with 
government work has probably 

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seen the kind of virtual Academy
trainings we do. 

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But these are online, you know, 
slideshows, very generic. 

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It's prepared by some person 
that I don't know how that's 

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their job, but their job is to 
create like digital trainings 

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that don't do anything. 
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knowledge test and videos and 
somebody reading and narrating 

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a, you know, a bunch of crap. 
And it it's garbage. 

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It's it's it's like a penance. 
And in the case of the Larry 

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Nasser case, you need the 
executive management screwed the

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pooch on this and exposed little
girls to a real serious issue 

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for a lot longer. 
And the BRIC agents who had 

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nothing to do with it are the 
ones who got the training. 

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There's never a mea culpa in the
FBI in my experience. 

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And maybe that's the case for 
other government agencies too, 

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but nobody ever owns. 
It's like, I screwed this up. 

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I'm going to eat it. 
I'm going to retire and fall on 

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my sword and resign because I'm 
disgraced. 

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It's always like, oh, can we 
make somebody else fall for it? 

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So the way that it worked is 
that senior executive that SES 

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the the sack for that office 
retired with pension and went to

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go probably take that job with 
the the I don't have any further

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information on that, but walked 
away unscathed essentially 

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without being named in the 
public sphere. 

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And then you're and then the DOJ
declined charges because that's 

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what they do. 
Like the DOJ is a cosigner for 

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the FB is malfeasance. 
The brick agent was fired, 

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despite the fact that there's 
probably pretty good evidence 

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that that was not the fault of 
that person. 

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Now, maybe they should have 
followed up, but like where I 

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come from, if I go tell my boss,
hey, man, I got this problem and

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he says I've got it, that's the 
end of it for me. 

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And I think that should be the 
expectation for people of honor.

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This goes back to that, that 
what that paycheck is supposed 

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to be. 
It's not that you're the best at

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anything in particular because I
don't think that I'm the 

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greatest criminal investigator 
ever to walk the earth. 

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But I am someone of integrity 
and you can't make me do 

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something that I that I believe 
is morally wrong. 

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Hopefully that's been proven out
over the last couple months. 

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So when you deal with the idea 
that you go and bring it to your

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boss, you should be able to 
trust that your boss says, I got

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it. 
That's the end of it. 

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It should be the end of it. 
It's a troubling, it's a 

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troubling kind of thing. 
This has happened over and over 

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and over again. 
It doesn't matter whether it was

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FISA abuse that nobody in the 
FBI was involved in, minus like 

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a handful of the small cadre of 
people in DC. 

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And then we all had to take 
Crossfire Hurricane FISA 

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training, including people who 
do don't even know what a FISA 

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is like. 
They've never seen it. 

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They've never been around 
anybody that signed a FISA or, 

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or helped do the research on the
background of it. 

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There's a lot of people that had
to do quote, UN quote FISA 

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training that, you know, they 
missed the mark it had. 

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It wasn't the people who 
committed the crime that did the

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penance for this or committed 
the sin, rather that did the 

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penance. 
So that's an ongoing issue in 

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the FBII think I think it's 
worth noting that this kind of 

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stuff is just pretty common. 
I'm going to bring up a couple 

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things that came out of my 
Twitter feed because I think 

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they're really interesting to 
This morning I woke up and I saw

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that Dinesh D'souza, who I've 
I've been in contact with 

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recently, said I'm going to 
quote him. 

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Do you mind pulling up the, the 
tweet there? 

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We're on it. 
So, so Dinesh says, you know, 

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I'm not saying that ordinary FBI
agent is corrupt or that the 

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FBI, you know, ordinary FBI 
agent is corrupt. 

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The agents are just quote, UN 
quote, following orders the way 

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the Germans did in the 1930s. 
Like I've been preaching this. 

450
00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,960
So this is true. 
This is how corruption and 

451
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:12,080
gangsterism trickles down 
through the agencies of the 

452
00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,000
state. 
Bad people make the good people 

453
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:19,000
carry out nefarious schemes. 
That's I, I, I cosign on that. 

454
00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,600
I told him exactly. 
I was like, Hey, you're over the

455
00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,400
mark right now. 
I sent him a, a quick text 

456
00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,960
message and told him that I 
said, if the average agent won't

457
00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:28,800
or can't stand up for their own 
rights, and this is the 

458
00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,320
situation that I found to be the
case. 

459
00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,000
If they're not going to stand up
for their own rights, how in the

460
00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:33,840
world are they going to stand up
for the everyday Americans 

461
00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:34,840
rights that they don't even 
know? 

462
00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:37,360
And, and, and that's a real 
serious problem. 

463
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,920
It's a real serious question and
real serious people need to 

464
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,080
answer it. 
I think Chris Ray should be put 

465
00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,240
that on there. 
One of my supervisors told me, 

466
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,680
I've, I've now said this on 2 
podcasts at a radio show, but 

467
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:52,160
essentially my, my supervisor 
came to me when I was telling 

468
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,280
him that I was under no 
circumstances going to take a 

469
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:58,000
COVID-19 test without symptoms. 
First of all, I'm a paramedic 

470
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:00,160
and I'm sick. 
I know it just like everybody 

471
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:01,680
else in the world does. 
But like I've got some medical 

472
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:06,360
credentials to back it up. 
And then moreover, I have top 

473
00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,680
secret clearance. 
So if you can't trust me to stay

474
00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:10,840
at home with a box of Kleenex, 
like what can you trust me to 

475
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:13,120
do? 
I think everybody knows since 

476
00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:16,560
2020 that going into the office 
with a hacking cough or blowing 

477
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:18,160
your nose makes everybody 
uncomfortable. 

478
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,800
I, I don't actually think it's a
problem. 

479
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,360
I think go on and, and spread it
and get rid of it. 

480
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:23,800
And like, we're all going to 
come out this time, you know, 

481
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,800
we'll all be immunized the same 
way we always have in history. 

482
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,000
But for now, there's a lot of 
fear, there's a lot of concerns.

483
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,040
So you don't get to go into the 
office. 

484
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,360
If you got the sniffles, you got
to stay home. 

485
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,480
And I have a lot of sick leave 
and so does everybody else who's

486
00:21:35,480 --> 00:21:37,080
a federal employee that spent a 
little bit of time in. 

487
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,520
And so if you can't trust me 
with that, then you better take 

488
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,640
my top secret clearance and pull
it right away. 

489
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,560
It's real straightforward, non 
negotiable. 

490
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,520
And my boss said, look, I know 
what what we're doing is wrong. 

491
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:51,920
I'm paraphrasing here, but I've 
got alimony because he was 

492
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,040
divorced and I've got a mortgage
and I can't take the stand with 

493
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,840
you. 
So you just admitted to me that 

494
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,320
you are willing to sell your 
character for 150,000 or 

495
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,000
$170,000 a year because we all 
have the same oath and we all 

496
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,400
have the same perspective. 
I think at least at one point in

497
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,720
time, everybody feels pretty 
ideological and pretty 

498
00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,680
idealistic. 
Rather when they're at the FBI 

499
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,840
Academy, it's like, you know, 
it's rah rah Team America. 

500
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,600
It's exactly what you're seeing 
behind me here. 

501
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:19,200
It's a flag with night vision 
and a freaking painted rifle 

502
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,640
that's ready to go get bad guys 
as needed. 

503
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:23,040
And that's what the that's what 
the badge is. 

504
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,080
You know, it's that shiny piece 
of, of a copper or whatever the 

505
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,240
heck it is that just says like, 
you know, I believe in this 

506
00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,120
thing and I'm willing to stand 
up and, and be the guy that puts

507
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:33,360
this on my belt and identifies 
myself as one of the good guys. 

508
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,720
So what happens when you can't? 
Very dangerous. 

509
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,160
And I'm going to segue into 
another sort of Twitter piece 

510
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,400
here. 
And I don't mean to be this like

511
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,480
a Twitter outing, but if you're 
not following me on on social 

512
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,360
media, you can at Kyle Seraphin.
It's at Kyle Seraphin. 

513
00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:49,240
It's really straightforward. 
I'm on truth and I'm on Twitter.

514
00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:52,760
Interesting. 
I've had a surge in in Fowler 

515
00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,360
account under the the Twitter 
account, which is kind of cool 

516
00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:56,880
for me 'cause it's a much wider 
audience. 

517
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,320
A lot of people that don't agree
with me. 

518
00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,480
That's what I I prefer to talk 
to people that don't agree with 

519
00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:02,560
me and maybe change some hearts 
and minds. 

520
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,320
I think that the things that I'm
saying are not partisan and 

521
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,800
they're pretty reasonable and 
with a small amount of snark 

522
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,840
when it comes to Barstool 
Sports. 

523
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:11,720
Apparently I started a fire the 
other day on accident. 

524
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,840
But when we talk about this, 
this next one here, this is 

525
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,160
something that's really near and
dear to my heart. 

526
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,960
So if you pull up the tweet 
about about Ashley Roberts and 

527
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:22,320
Brian Costello, these are two 
WFO off, you know, agents. 

528
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,560
My understanding is, is they're 
relatively junior in their 

529
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,040
career. 
And and that may mean that they 

530
00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,080
only have, you know, the same 
amount of time that I have. 

531
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:29,920
People probably called me junior
at six years in. 

532
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,000
But relatively speaking, like at
least one of them is probably 

533
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,000
under three years in, you know, 
might even be still be on 

534
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,120
probation. 
And we're talking about people 

535
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,160
that are working for 
Counterterrorism 4, which is one

536
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,760
of the, you know, one of the 
multiple counterterrorism squads

537
00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:43,520
in Washington DC that does 
domestic terrorism. 

538
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:47,000
So why is that relevant and, and
why did I, you know, send their 

539
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,880
picture out there? 
And the answer is really 

540
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,960
straightforward. 
They showed up at, you know, 

541
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:56,320
sometime in after my friend had 
already showed up and, and and 

542
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,320
been removed of his clearance. 
He was a national security 

543
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,240
branch employee as AGS 14. 
He was a MAPA, so working 

544
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:07,440
management and program analysis 
jobs. 

545
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:09,440
It's kind of a catch all title 
that allows him to do kind of a 

546
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:11,720
a wide variety of things. 
He showed up at the Capitol on 

547
00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:13,000
January 6th. 
He listened to the sitting 

548
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,000
president speak and what I would
call a very, very clearly First 

549
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,480
Amendment protected activity. 
And then he went and sat and had

550
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,240
his lunch on the lawn outside 
the Capitol. 

551
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,440
And from the way he tells me, he
was sitting low enough that he 

552
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,440
couldn't see what was going on 
there. 

553
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,320
But when they started hearing it
and they got a whiff of tear 

554
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,600
gas, they decided it was time to
go. 

555
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,160
That's not a crime. 
That's not even there. 

556
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:32,440
There's there's no allegation or
information that that is a 

557
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,000
problem for anybody. 
And the FBI cleared him of 

558
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,920
wrongdoing, were unable to bring
any criminal charges, obviously,

559
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,560
because that's nonsensical. 
They still kept him suspended. 

560
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,920
And then these agents showed up 
like a month later in front of 

561
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,080
his house. 
They didn't leave a card and 

562
00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:50,040
they didn't say who they were. 
They were on his ring Cam. 

563
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,120
He was able to track it down 
because we've got a pretty 

564
00:24:52,120 --> 00:24:54,560
exclusive and pretty extensive 
source network of people that 

565
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,240
work all over the FBI, and they 
were able to tell us who it was.

566
00:24:57,360 --> 00:24:59,000
And lo and behold, they showed 
up again. 

567
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,600
They showed up again in either 
late October or early November. 

568
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:05,040
I think it was actually in early
November, 90 days after the 

569
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,160
first time, which is when file 
reviews are due. 

570
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,360
That's what Phil will be able to
Co sign on for me. 

571
00:25:09,360 --> 00:25:11,920
But file reviews happen every 
every 90 days. 

572
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,800
It's just a check up to make 
sure that you're actually moving

573
00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,280
the cases forward. 
You're earning that paycheck you

574
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,760
get from the FBI. 
And so you know, they're out 

575
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:20,440
there checking the box. 
You don't get to check the box 

576
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,920
when somebody has legal 
representation as an FBI 

577
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,400
employee and you've been 
notified of it. 

578
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:25,640
That's it. 
That's a violation of our 

579
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,640
policy. 
And they were making phone calls

580
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,520
despite the fact that they've 
been notified that they had 

581
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:31,560
legal counsel to my friend's 
wife. 

582
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,640
And so they're like leaving 
voice messages. 

583
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,000
This woman, Ashley, is doing 
that. 

584
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,000
And, you know, first of all, 
it's a policy violation as far 

585
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,760
as anybody of us can tell, like 
you should. 

586
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,040
Every time you're notified of, 
of council, you've got six 

587
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:43,320
months to basically go through 
council. 

588
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:46,200
The second thing is, why are 
they trying to jam up on 

589
00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:48,880
counterterrorism charges? 
Like the guy didn't do anything.

590
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,800
That's pretty obvious. 
And So what kind of BS case are 

591
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,720
they working? 
It doesn't matter if it was what

592
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,400
we call a contact case, which is
that you had contact with 

593
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:57,680
someone else that they're 
investigating. 

594
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,400
Go through the attorney. 
It's very easy. 

595
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Submit your questions in writing
if you want. 

596
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:02,960
They had access to them. 
They knew his chain of command, 

597
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,600
they knew his, you know, his 
managers and so on. 

598
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:05,920
And so these people showed back 
up. 

599
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,240
So I, I published their picture 
on November 9th of this year, so

600
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,280
about a month ago and that was 
the end of it. 

601
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,320
You know, we, we got a pretty 
good traction on I think 135,000

602
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,600
eyeballs impressions were made 
on, on Twitter, which is kind of

603
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,280
fun for me. 
It's like a totally new venue. 

604
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,080
But I keep score on some of 
these things, like I want to see

605
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,840
people see wrongdoing, what I 
think is holding them 

606
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:30,080
accountable. 
And then sure enough, my buddy 

607
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200
calls me this week and is like, 
hey, man, like don't do anything

608
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,840
about it, which doesn't work 
with me, by the way, but don't 

609
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,720
do anything about it. 
But the Office of the Inspector 

610
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,160
General as calling and they're 
compelling an interview on me 

611
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,000
and they're, you know, asking my
lawyer to call in and say what 

612
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,160
my role is and quote, UN quote, 
leaking the photographs of these

613
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,960
people. 
Well, number one, screw you. 

614
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,440
You're an FBI agent. 
That means you get that paycheck

615
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,600
because you have to go out in 
public like every other law 

616
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:51,760
enforcement officer in this 
country. 

617
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,280
And you are subject to being 
videoed, your subject being 

618
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,680
talked to by somebody else. 
The news may show up. 

619
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,840
Your, your name and your 
identity are not protected. 

620
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,760
You are not a spy. 
As much as I thought it was 

621
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,000
really funny to tell people I 
was a secret agent because 

622
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,160
everything I did had the word 
secret written on it when I was 

623
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,320
working counterintelligence. 
You're not a secret agent when 

624
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,080
you work national security. 
You're a publicly paid, you 

625
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,040
know, government official in 
pursuit of your duties and you 

626
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:16,240
have 0 expectation of privacy on
someone else's front porch, but 

627
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,920
do not know what a ring Cam is. 
It's really not that hard. 

628
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,080
That's the thing that you push 
the button and the picture was 

629
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,880
taken. 
You activated the camera when 

630
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,240
you went and rang it or when you
stepped up on the porch. 

631
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,200
So give me a break on that. 
My buddy Steve friend, who we'll

632
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,920
hear from in a little bit, he's 
going to come back and do our 

633
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,520
crime and punishment segment, 
which I really love. 

634
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,480
You know, he worked on an Indian
Reservation and the, the, the 

635
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,120
natives on the, the Native 
Americans in the tribe there set

636
00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:42,320
up a Facebook page so they could
throw spottings of his F-150 

637
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,520
when he was driving around the 
rez because they wanted to be 

638
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,280
able to keep track of where he 
was doing enforcement. 

639
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,520
And, you know, and that's very 
common on Indian reservations, 

640
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:50,920
things like that. 
It's like tracking down where 

641
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:52,240
the feds are. 
Like everybody knows what the 

642
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,080
Fed trucks are. 
They're the white F-150 that's 

643
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,200
got a big camper shell on the 
back of it and it's collecting 

644
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,840
evidence and it has the white 
guy in it that has a beard, 

645
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,080
generally speaking. 
Like that's fairly common type 

646
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,160
of dude. 
My buddy is one of those guys 

647
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,760
right now in Montana. 
Like they totally know who you 

648
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:05,720
are. 
They'll pull up and talk to you 

649
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:07,280
and they'll go, hey, like, 
what's up white boy? 

650
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,960
Like, it's really funny stuff. 
It's like one of the most 

651
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,600
comical things about doing 
Indian Reservation work is that 

652
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,480
people know exactly who you are.
There's 0 anonymity and you're 

653
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:17,960
like a local detective. 
Like you go out there and do 

654
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,200
Major Crimes. 
So the idea that these people 

655
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,800
think they have this expectation
of privacy and nobody should be 

656
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,520
publishing their photograph, 
like, first of all, you 

657
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,640
suspended the man without pay. 
It's a photograph that he owns. 

658
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,080
He can do whatever the heck he 
wants with it. 

659
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,880
And what he did was put it into 
a whistleblower group and ask if

660
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,040
anybody knew who these clowns 
were. 

661
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:36,560
And it turns out, yeah, somebody
knew who those clowns were, and 

662
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880
they told me. 
So I took it on my own to go do 

663
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:39,840
this. 
You know, he's, he's got no 

664
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,040
blame, but he said he would 
defend my right to do it because

665
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,040
he's also a military veteran and
he spent 20 years in the Army. 

666
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,120
And he's a combat wounded guy 
like this. 

667
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:49,760
This is the freedoms that we all
fight for. 

668
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,000
Like at this point, I'm more or 
less entered the the realm of 

669
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,960
being a a member of the press. 
I think the argument could be 

670
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,160
made. 
I talked to an FBI lawyer the 

671
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,840
other day. 
He was a friend. 

672
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,160
And he was like, yeah, you're 
protected under DOJ policy. 

673
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560
Like you are the press. 
You are doing a a podcast. 

674
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,160
You are presenting information 
like I am now a SIM. 

675
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,680
If the FBI is being honest about
the way their policy works. 

676
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:10,040
Because I've done more 
interviews with national level, 

677
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,040
you know, TV shows and radio 
shows. 

678
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,240
And I've talked to larger 
audiences than most TV reporters

679
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:18,560
get than any given two months of
their lives. 

680
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,680
You know, I've been on the 
Bongino show for what, 4 Times 

681
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,600
Now on Fox News? 
It's not long hits, but it's 

682
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,840
enough to talk to an audience of
several million. 

683
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,080
I've been on his radio show 
where they have three to four, 5

684
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,120
million people up. 
I've talked to Sebastian Gorka's

685
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,880
radio audience. 
I've spoken to Jesse Kelly. 

686
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,040
I just spoke to to Vince 
Colonnades up in WMAL just 

687
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,720
before, you know, taping this, 
which was my old radio station I

688
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,120
listened to when I drove in and 
out to work. 

689
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,960
Literally audiences of millions 
of people are getting access to 

690
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,240
what I have to say. 
And then whatever number of 

691
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:47,960
people are thinking on Twitter 
and and so on. 

692
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,360
So, you know, at this point, 
I'm, I'm more a citizen 

693
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,640
journalist than I am an FBI 
agent. 

694
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,040
I have been paid as an FBI agent
since what May of this year. 

695
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Like I'm done with that as far 
as I can tell. 

696
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:01,600
So if I choose to put something 
that's a public interest, which 

697
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,720
is a couple of FBI agents 
violating policy and you know 

698
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,040
that the response has been 
overwhelming. 

699
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:07,560
I'm actually going to Scroll 
down and see how many 

700
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,040
impressions we have because I 
think that's kind of 

701
00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:10,680
interesting. 
So as of right now, the tweet 

702
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:16,840
that I, I sent out yesterday has
175,000 impressions and it says 

703
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,200
41 people followed our account. 
It's actually like probably a 

704
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,160
couple 100 at this point. 
But it's been liked, you know, 

705
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,440
1400 + * / 600 of you or close 
to 600 of you have something, 

706
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,760
something out. 
And 100 of you have have made 

707
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:30,440
comments on what your position 
is. 

708
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,480
And the position is 
overwhelmingly negative about 

709
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,680
FBI agents showing up at your 
door in the same way that I felt

710
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:36,880
when the ATF showed up at my 
door. 

711
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,880
Having feds at your door is a 
terrible feeling. 

712
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,440
It's not good. 
So long and short of it is 

713
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,040
you've got this big problem 
where we've got agents that are 

714
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:47,480
willing to do what they're told 
and they don't think, is this 

715
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,320
wrong or is this convenient? 
As I told somebody in an 

716
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:55,280
interview earlier today, you 
know, the, the right choice is 

717
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:59,800
always, it's, it's pretty simple
to identify what it is, but it's

718
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,880
not always easy. 
And that's kind of the big 

719
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:06,200
differential there. 
So I want to kind of talk 

720
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,360
briefly too about what kind of 
stuff that leads to the kind of 

721
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,320
people that are willing to keep 
doing and following orders 

722
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,520
because it's the, you know, 
they, it's convenient and easy 

723
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,920
is how you get to the people 
that suspended me. 

724
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,720
And, and I'm going to do a 
little bit of a kind of AI don't

725
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,000
want to do a hitch job per SE, 
but I'm going to name check 

726
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,160
somebody. 
So there's a woman named 

727
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,080
Jennifer Moorer. 
She's the executive assistant 

728
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,000
director of our human racist 
human resource department. 

729
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,520
She's in charge of what do you 
call it? 

730
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,480
The security division, SEC D is 
what we call it. 

731
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,800
Sometimes it's hard to escape 
the FBI acronyms which are or, 

732
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:35,760
or like weird little, like I 
told somebody something about 

733
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,440
HUMINT or RUMINT the other day. 
I was talking to a cop and 

734
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,680
RUMINT is rumor intelligence. 
It's like everything in the 

735
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:44,880
Intel community is an INT. 
But anyhow, so she's in charge 

736
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,960
of SEC D, our security division.
She's in charge of the human 

737
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,640
resources, which we call D and 
she's in charge of the training.

738
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,480
And my buddy who was in training
division, who I won't name but 

739
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,800
works over there in the training
division, mentioned to me today 

740
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,960
that they keep putting all the 
worst agents and supervisors 

741
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,960
that have a terrible history. 
They put the worst people to go 

742
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,080
to training. 
And now that's common in things 

743
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,680
like the military, but there's 
no excuse in the FBI. 

744
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,280
We should have the best people 
doing the training and it should

745
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,040
be a burden that they have to go
and shoulder. 

746
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:13,920
They have to step away from 
doing really good casework. 

747
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,040
So they bring the next 
generation of really good agents

748
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:17,800
on. 
Instead, we bring in like just 

749
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440
garbage. 
The woman who was the the AD of 

750
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,720
training when I was going 
through the Academy to me got up

751
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,080
and said the dumbest, most 
racist thing I've ever heard 

752
00:32:25,080 --> 00:32:27,120
anyone talk about. 
And her excuse was that her 

753
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,360
husband is black. 
But she's famous for being kind 

754
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:33,160
of a like a ditzy moron. 
She gets up in front of hundreds

755
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,240
of of trainees and says, you 
know, you always got to have 

756
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,760
your head on a swivel. 
I went to a convenience store 

757
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,840
the other day and, you know, it 
was me and my husband and my two

758
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,880
kids and, you know, these two 
black guys came in and they were

759
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,880
wearing hoodies and we thought 
they were casing the place. 

760
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,040
And so we executed our protocol 
because we're law enforcement at

761
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,520
all times, which made me want to
puke. 

762
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:54,800
And she goes, you know, I took 
care of the kids and my 

763
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,400
husband's a tactical guy. 
He went in to go like, make sure

764
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,400
nothing happened. 
And it's like, OK, what's the 

765
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:00,520
payoff? 
Did they rob the store? 

766
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,080
Did you interrupt the robbery? 
No, they were like 2 dudes 

767
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,360
buying us a pack of cools and 
then they left because they're 

768
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,320
just regular dudes. 
And she thinks that black people

769
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,040
all in, you know, are involved 
in crime when they have a 

770
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,280
hoodie. 
And she was like, and I'm not 

771
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,000
being racist because my 
husband's black, he has 

772
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,960
dreadlocks. 
It's like this is an excuse 

773
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,160
being racist. 
That's like actually the 

774
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,080
definition of racist. 
You judge someone based on their

775
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,480
race. 
You're a moron. 

776
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:20,520
You shouldn't be training 
anybody. 

777
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,240
Like you shouldn't tell anybody 
what a tactical mindset is. 

778
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,240
But that's the kind of people 
that teach at the FBI Academy. 

779
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,200
And she was the assistant 
director. 

780
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,480
That's an SES position. 
That's after she was the special

781
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,760
agent charged somewhere. 
And Kelly is just like a fool. 

782
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,280
Like you hear stuff like that 
and serious people like me look 

783
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,320
around and just go like, who 
who's in charge here? 

784
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,160
Like God, I hope the field is 
not the same people. 

785
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:43,760
But where did that person come 
from? 

786
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,200
They came from the field. 
They came from a another SES 

787
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,960
position and they came from 
another GS15 before that. 

788
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,120
And so they, they got walked up 
the chain to be in charge. 

789
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,680
But Jennifer Moore is one of 
these people. 

790
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,640
In my opinion, she's just a 
disaster. 

791
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:56,960
I think she was probably a nice 
lady when she went to the 

792
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,520
Academy. 
And my friends that that went to

793
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,440
the Academy with her because 
I've got connections all the way

794
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200
back going back down to the 80s.
I've got, you know, I've got 

795
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,880
connections and, you know, she 
was OK agent, they said. 

796
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,960
And then something happened and 
she just something Phil told me 

797
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,960
is that there's no GS15 in the 
government has ever said no to a

798
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,960
bad idea. 
And that's kind of where we're 

799
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,480
at with the FBI too. 
It's like these people like the 

800
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,560
bad idea fairy comes and it 
craps out like there's some 

801
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,159
terrible decision and everybody 
who's on board with it gets 

802
00:34:21,159 --> 00:34:22,960
promoted. 
And all the people that say 

803
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,280
like, hey, that's foolish. 
Have you ever actually done 

804
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:26,560
that? 
That's a really bad idea. 

805
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,520
Those people stay and and work 
cases. 

806
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,080
So Jen Moore, you know, she came
and she was the she was the 

807
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,760
special agent in charge of the 
intelligence division 

808
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:34,560
previously. 
She was in charge, She was in 

809
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,440
charge of my division. 
She wrote me a $3000 check for 

810
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:41,480
fantastic performance, whatever 
it was the the step below 

811
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,920
getting like some sort of a 
commendation for the work that I

812
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,239
did. 
And I'm not saying I earned it. 

813
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:46,800
I'm just saying I'm a pretty 
decent employee. 

814
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,080
I'm not a scumbag and she knew 
it at the time too. 

815
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,000
My boss, nobody, I, I don't know
anybody that's ever seen 

816
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,159
somebody get a $3000 cash award.
We're big on like 500 dollars, 

817
00:34:55,159 --> 00:34:58,560
$250 here, but an on the spot 
award of $3000. 

818
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,080
It's just not very common in the
FBI. 

819
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,440
And so I got 1, you know, 
whatever you know, you get half 

820
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,840
of it because the federal 
government gets half the award 

821
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:07,680
that the federal government is 
giving you, which is the dumbest

822
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,000
thing you've ever heard. 
But she had to award it to me. 

823
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,280
So she did and then 18 months 
later she's pulling my pension 

824
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,520
and my, my paycheck and she's 
pulling my, my security 

825
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,680
clearance. 
And I remember very specifically

826
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,320
kind of like a great, you know, 
a little piece of like what kind

827
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,320
of person this is. 
She sat down with my, my squad, 

828
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600
which was a bunch of like, you 
know, I had a much bigger beard 

829
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,480
at the time. 
And everybody works out, 

830
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,200
Everybody's fit because 
everybody knows they may have to

831
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,440
fight. 
Like there's not a lot of 

832
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,240
frontline FBI jobs where you're 
in front of bad guys or the 

833
00:35:34,240 --> 00:35:37,240
potential of bad guys and 
special operations group, the, 

834
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,320
the security teams or the 
surveillance teams actually face

835
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,920
that possibility. 
I wouldn't say it's a very high 

836
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,120
possibility on any given day, 
but we sat in crappy 

837
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,800
neighborhoods and there's a 
chance you may have to like, you

838
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,200
know, do the right thing for 
yourself, defend yourself, 

839
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:50,840
defend your teammate. 
We have protocols for that. 

840
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,320
So she's sitting around this 
table with like, a bunch of, 

841
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,800
like, dudes who work out prior 
military, prior law enforcement 

842
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,120
experience. 
We had former federal air 

843
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,000
marshals. 
We had, you know, a Marine Corps

844
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,560
infantry officer and an Army 
infantry officer, you know, two 

845
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:11,120
former air marshals, 2 local 
cops, another prior Marine 

846
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,560
enlisted. 
He would feel mad if I didn't 

847
00:36:13,720 --> 00:36:15,600
list that to him. 
And worked Indian Country. 

848
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,880
You know, senior guys, like some
of the guys are grey beards. 

849
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:18,800
They've been there for a long 
time. 

850
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,720
They're not faded by, you know, 
fazed by a lot of things. 

851
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,240
But this is a relatively, I 
would say, serious group of 

852
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:25,720
people that take themselves not 
too seriously, but are capable, 

853
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:28,360
very capable. 
We had one really pretty gal who

854
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,160
was really nice and just total 
sweetheart. 

855
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,680
She was like the only reason 
that we had any testosterone 

856
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:34,840
checked there. 
But end of the day, and she was 

857
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,080
at least fit and capable and, 
you know, rode a motorcycle and 

858
00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,800
wasn't like a, you know, some 
kind of a, you know, shirking, 

859
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,560
shrinking Violet kind of deal. 
And this woman sits down, fails 

860
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,160
to read the room completely. 
She's looking at my supervisor, 

861
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:48,840
who's a former Ranger Battalion 
West Point grad and a, and also 

862
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,440
has a beard and has like, you 
know, long tactical Jesus hair 

863
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,920
and all this kind of thing. 
And she looks over to everybody 

864
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,560
and she just goes, I want to get
to know you guys so maybe we can

865
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600
go around the table and talk 
about what your favorite dessert

866
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:03,520
is. 
And then immediately I was like,

867
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,800
when can I be let out on recess?
And I've got, you know, a snack 

868
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,840
pack because apparently we were 
in kindergarten right there with

869
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,600
a grown woman looking at a bunch
of grown men who have beards and

870
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000
deciding that talking about 
dessert as an icebreaker is an 

871
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,720
appropriate discussion. 
It's absurd. 

872
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,400
It's craziness. 
It's like, what's the thing 

873
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,120
you're most proud of in the FBI?
What's your biggest concern 

874
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000
about working this agency? 
What's the the thing that you've

875
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,440
seen executive management do 
that you hope that I don't like 

876
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:30,600
any number of serious questions.
Those I just came up with those 

877
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:31,560
right now. 
I didn't think of them 

878
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,400
beforehand. 
It takes almost no work to be a 

879
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,240
serious human being, sit down 
around serious people and have a

880
00:37:37,240 --> 00:37:41,960
serious discussion. 
This is completely unprocessable

881
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:44,160
to somebody in this position 
because they've been used to 

882
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,560
being stroked and passed up and 
and being completely incompetent

883
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,680
and never being held 
accountable. 

884
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,960
So that's the kind of person 
that we're talking about. 

885
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:56,600
And, you know, it's like we felt
floated up a concern in 2020 

886
00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,520
because some of you may have 
seen it. 

887
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,600
There's a a thing I called Neil 
Team 6, which is a bunch of 

888
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,560
people that were in the FBI that
took a knee. 

889
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,480
And they, and if you want to 
bring up the the Jimmy Gags 

890
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:07,720
article from the New York Post. 
Yeah. 

891
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440
So all these FBI agents decided 
to take a knee because they were

892
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,840
confronted by some protesters 
who may or may not have been 

893
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,200
angry. 
The videos that I've seen did 

894
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,280
not indicate that they were like
yelling something. 

895
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,200
And then they all just dropped 
to a knee and genuflected on 

896
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,680
behalf of the Black Lives Matter
movement, which is crazy. 

897
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,760
It's also a tactically unsound 
decision. 

898
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,920
It's very, very dangerous for 
people with a weapon on them. 

899
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,160
They endangered their lives and 
other lives and also the agents 

900
00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,320
that would come afterwards 
setting this unreasonable 

901
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,160
expectation that we're going to 
do this political genuflection. 

902
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:41,120
But in the meantime, that 
happened because people like Jen

903
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,640
Moore made the decisions to send
us out on the streets and do 

904
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,560
what I'm going to refer to as a 
presence patrol. 

905
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,920
My friends who've been in the 
military are going to be able to

906
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,600
talk about this to you. 
But essentially, you show that 

907
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,880
you are there by marching around
or driving around in a convoy or

908
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,360
your vehicles and you show what 
like kind of a show of force. 

909
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,520
This is who were here. 
You know, we're we're not going 

910
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,560
to be cowed and we're happy to 
March around. 

911
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,240
The silliness was is that the 
FBI was marching around on this 

912
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,520
presence patrol and this is the 
summer of 2020 wearing body 

913
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,520
armor, wearing just this like 
grab bag of non uniform. 

914
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,800
So like this shirt would have 
flown, but so would AT shirt or 

915
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,600
a wife beater or, you know, 
somebody's pink shoes or like it

916
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,320
was just it was absurdity. 
It's all silliness. 

917
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,320
And so they're marching around 
in a mixed bag, grab bag armor. 

918
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,440
Nobody's even matched up. 
We're not wearing hats or 

919
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,120
helmets or the same thing. 
And we're marching around in an 

920
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:29,920
area that the National Guard had
already set up checkpoints in 

921
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,840
under sandbags, like they were 
at every street corner in DC 

922
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,360
that they were controlling. 
So we're walking around in what 

923
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,320
I would call like a Green Zone 
where some protesters were. 

924
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,360
And when a couple of them ran 
into a little bit of resistance 

925
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,080
because they are indoor dogs and
they have no business walking 

926
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,000
around in, you know, overt body 
armor, they got yelled at, and 

927
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
they didn't know what to do. 
So they dropped to a knee. 

928
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,600
And it's really scary. 
So during all that nonsense, you

929
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,520
know, we asked this question. 
It's a serious question by 

930
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,600
serious people who are looking 
at a unserious reaction of the 

931
00:39:57,600 --> 00:39:59,880
FBI, which was under Bill Barr 
at that time. 

932
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:01,240
This is still Trump time, if you
remember. 

933
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,000
And we said, you know, can you 
assure us that we are doing 

934
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,440
something about Black Lives 
Matter protests that are turning

935
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,560
violent and Antifa, which had 
obviously infiltrated some of 

936
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,200
these action groups. 
And I don't know what the Venn 

937
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,240
diagram looks like for 
crossover, but it's there. 

938
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,600
There's no doubt in my mind 
about that same type of 

939
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,800
attitudes. 
So, you know, we've got this, 

940
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:24,680
this really nasty kind of 
hybridized violent slash loud 

941
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,200
threatening protests that are 
going on and what are we going 

942
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,720
to do about it? 
You know, they burned Saint 

943
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:30,680
John's Church. 
My team was deployed to that the

944
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,280
day after they burned it. 
And we were kind of helping 

945
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:34,560
stand the line with Secret 
Service. 

946
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:37,880
There's nothing Dumber than 
taking a bunch of covert, which 

947
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,200
is what the FBI calls it, but I 
would call it low visibility 

948
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,600
surveillance agents in vans and 
and vehicles that we spend a 

949
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,000
bunch of money to keep their 
names off the FBI's registry. 

950
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,320
So if you were to, you know, one
of the things that the FBI is 

951
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,240
charged with his public 
corruption and we have to do 

952
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,480
investigations into dirty cops. 
Well, dirty cops have a lot of 

953
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,960
really cool tools like they can 
run license plates and find out 

954
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,880
that you're a fed and they can 
find out that your vehicle is 

955
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,120
assigned to the Federal Bureau 
Investigation or Office of 

956
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,440
Personnel Management, which is 
the federal government's kind of

957
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,640
grab bag or the GSA. 
And so if you're going to go do 

958
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,040
investigations and do 
surveillance on cops that are 

959
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,160
doing things that are wrong and 
you don't you, I mean, you don't

960
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,080
want them doing that. 
And you do want the FBI being 

961
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,200
able to do that or somebody has 
got to be able to check this 

962
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,800
authority of, of dirty cops. 
You spend a lot of money to 

963
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,200
build fake shell corporations 
and these kind of things so that

964
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,760
we're not immediately visible to
what's going on when we're doing

965
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,080
these operations. 
It took all of our vehicles and 

966
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:30,880
had us drive out and punch it 
right in front of the White 

967
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,680
House lawn on the north lawn and
stand right next to Saint John's

968
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,760
Church and set up like a 
perimeter with a bunch of Secret

969
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,040
Service uniform divisions. 
These are, you know, they spend 

970
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,520
a lot of money and time setting 
these things up and then they're

971
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,520
ready to go burn them. 
So we had, you know, no license 

972
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,120
plates. 
And we're trying to do the right

973
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,560
thing to keep these vehicles 
from being what we call burned, 

974
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,240
which is to say exposed because 
they show up on social media. 

975
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:51,360
Like all that money's down the 
tube. 

976
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
Once they've been identified as 
a Fed, if somebody knows who you

977
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,760
are, it's over. 
They got to re, you know, rebook

978
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,760
it, sell that thing off, move it
somewhere else, get a new 

979
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,640
license plate, whatever. 
And and so we asked this 

980
00:42:01,720 --> 00:42:04,880
Jennifer Moore, we said, look, 
what is the FBI doing about this

981
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,120
problem? 
It's a real problem. 

982
00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,720
We're experiencing this real 
problem, and we have real 

983
00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,920
concerns. 
And her answer was, you know, 

984
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,000
I'll get back to you. 
That's a fair answer, whatever. 

985
00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,320
And when she got back, she said 
basically Chris Wray wasn't 

986
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,280
going to be going after Antifa 
because he wanted to keep his 

987
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:19,600
job, which to me told me two 
things. 

988
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,800
Number one, she sort of agreed 
that Antifa is kind of like, you

989
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,360
know, keep away status. 
And she wasn't particularly 

990
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,520
appalled by that. 
You know, she was back in the 

991
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,920
management. 
The management made a decision 

992
00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:31,320
and she's behind it. 
Once again. 

993
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Nobody gets above the GS15 level
in the federal government by 

994
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,920
disagreeing with bad ideas. 
They have to sign off on 

995
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:38,880
everything. 
So she did. 

996
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:40,280
And that's the kind of person 
she is. 

997
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:42,000
And she's the kind of lady who 
took my security clearance. 

998
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,080
Like I'm pretty confident she 
came into the office drunk. 

999
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,320
I have several credible sources 
that told me she came into the 

1000
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,480
office drunk during 2020 during 
the the pandemic, because she 

1001
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,040
was working from home and 
drinking red wine. 

1002
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,400
And she came in and pet some of 
the support employees. 

1003
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,680
I've never done that. 
That's crazy to me. 

1004
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,880
Like, why would that person be 
able to tell me that I'm not fit

1005
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:00,800
for the job? 
But that's the FBI we're 

1006
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,840
leaving, we're dealing with 
right now. 

1007
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:03,720
Sorry about that obsession about
it too. 

1008
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,840
In any case, I will encourage 
you guys to to follow if you 

1009
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,520
want to see some of these fun 
dumps that, you know, I'm 

1010
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,320
picking a fight with the FBI 
because I think it's our 

1011
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,960
information, ours being the 
American peoples. 

1012
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,760
I believe in a thing that I'm 
calling radical transparency and

1013
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,840
I'm hoping that it kind of, you 
know, breaks down some of the 

1014
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,200
rat's nest that exist. 
There's not a lot of people that

1015
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:23,880
are willing to do it. 
It's not a very comfortable 

1016
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,800
position to be in. 
And we're about to join another 

1017
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,080
guy who was willing to do that 
thing. 

1018
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,320
We're going to be bringing on my
buddy C friend shortly. 

1019
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,320
He's been doing a thing on on 
Twitter that is called, he's 

1020
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,720
called it the OPR Files. 
It's an honor of our friend Matt

1021
00:43:38,720 --> 00:43:40,600
Taibbi, who's been doing the 
Twitter Files. 

1022
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,720
This is a just another piece of 
that radical transparency. 

1023
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,440
It's that that dump that's going
to get you. 

1024
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,600
You know, first of all, they're 
not going to smile about it. 

1025
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,800
But we are putting out things 
that I think the American people

1026
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:53,080
have a right to know. 
And that is the failings of the 

1027
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:58,360
FBI and, and what was done about
it because there's not, there's 

1028
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,920
not a lot of information that is
publicly available to you all. 

1029
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,320
So this is a very inside look 
that that Steve gives. 

1030
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,200
And it's been part of our crime 
and punishment segment. 

1031
00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:08,000
But moreover, he's now sharing 
it over here on Twitter 'cause 

1032
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:09,880
there's a lot more thousands of 
people that can see it. 

1033
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,560
So, Steve, welcome back my 
friend. 

1034
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,360
Oh, thank you very much for the 
chance to be here. 

1035
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:19,360
Yeah, bud. 
Hey, I want to, I want to open 

1036
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:20,600
with kind of a new thing to 
Phil. 

1037
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,720
You, I don't know if you've got 
the FlightAware app, but I'm 

1038
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,640
going to let you kind of give 
some commentary on on where in 

1039
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:27,600
the world is Chris Ray and what 
has he been up to. 

1040
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Well, I mean, you, you come up 
with this wonderful idea that we

1041
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,440
should just look at the tail 
number on the, the G5 that he 

1042
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:39,760
flies around in. 
So we got this nifty, we had 

1043
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,080
this nifty account on Twitter. 
Unfortunately, he can't post 

1044
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:45,400
live. 
He can only post in retrospect 

1045
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:49,120
because I guess it's a security 
issue for, for important people 

1046
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,520
like Christopher Wray. 
So I did pull up the 

1047
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:56,160
flightaware.com on the the tail 
number for the director's jet 

1048
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,680
and looked over the last week of
travel. 

1049
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,680
The one note that you you did 
point out was any time that the 

1050
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,240
the plane departs from Manassas 
is a major indicator that 

1051
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:10,200
Christopher Ray's on it because 
I guess he doesn't like to make 

1052
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,520
the the 20 minute commute to, to
Reagan. 

1053
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,120
Is that correct? 
It's the flip of that, actually.

1054
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,800
So whenever it goes from 
Manassas to Reagan, it picks him

1055
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:20,920
up and, and and that's just 
comes from you not having to 

1056
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:24,320
work in the swamp in DC, but 
essentially Manassas is a little

1057
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,880
bit further out to the West and 
it's a drive and you got to go 

1058
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,400
out there. 
What what's the, what's the 

1059
00:45:28,480 --> 00:45:30,000
highway, Phil? 
I forget what it's called now. 

1060
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,120
66. 66 I knew it was 60 
something. 

1061
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,680
So if you take 66 and you got to
drive out of DC, you you get 

1062
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:39,440
stuck in traffic all the way in 
Arlington, which is, you know, 

1063
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:41,160
just outside of it. 
And then you drive and drive and

1064
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,200
drive and you end up getting 
outside of Fairfax County and 

1065
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,840
you end up in the next county 
over, which is going to be 

1066
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:47,880
Prince William. 
Ask where Manassas airport is. 

1067
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,760
So rather than do that, and by 
the way, he's not driving right,

1068
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:54,720
somebody else is driving him. 
He's got a motorcade, you know, 

1069
00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:57,960
he, he has the Jetfly and land 
for 1000 bucks every touchdown 

1070
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,640
at DCA, which is Reagan National
Airport, people who fly in there

1071
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:04,160
know. 
So it's closer to DC for him. 

1072
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,160
It's very convenient. 
I'm thinking he doesn't get 

1073
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,360
billed for that little, that 
little hop skipping up and jump 

1074
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,840
it makes. 
But, you know, that's just a 

1075
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,280
taxpayer's expense, I guess. 
So the only the only if, if 

1076
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,480
that's the case and the only 
time that I I see it leaving 

1077
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,640
from Reagan was a flight to 
Detroit, MI. 

1078
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,840
So fun times for the director. 
Probably doing a, you know, a 

1079
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,960
hop over to assess the SAC in 
Detroit. 

1080
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:32,880
I know they got the new SAC 
there after Steve Dantuano left 

1081
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:35,680
after the Whitmer case, so 
there's probably making sure 

1082
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,240
that they're keeping things up 
tight and, you know, no new 

1083
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:42,360
violent domestic abuse cases 
from the case agents like Trask 

1084
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,800
and and and. 
No wife beating and no wife 

1085
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,760
beating. 
Maybe he was checking in on 

1086
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:49,680
making sure there's no pro-life 
clinics that are getting out of 

1087
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,280
control there so they could go 
ahead and. 

1088
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:54,840
But definitely ensuring the 
entrapment cases are at an all 

1089
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,800
time high, we got to be making 
sure we hit at least a half 

1090
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,800
dozen of those every fiscal 
year. 

1091
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:01,880
Correct. 
And so, and then, and it looks 

1092
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,840
like then outside of leaving 
from, from Reagan, a couple of 

1093
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,880
other flights, but they were 
overseas. 

1094
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:10,560
Those could have been just like 
evidence runs or something like 

1095
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,280
that. 
It looks like they went down to 

1096
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,880
Dominican Republic, which I 
don't know, seems like kind of a

1097
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,160
good gig if you're making an 
evidence run for the weekend and

1098
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,000
Greece for a day. 
So not too much travel over this

1099
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,120
this week, but we are going to 
the holidays. 

1100
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,320
So maybe he's holding that back.
And well, I'm sure we'll see him

1101
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,240
the Adirondacks here soon. 
Sure, sure enough. 

1102
00:47:29,240 --> 00:47:30,760
So we'll do. 
We'll do where in the world is 

1103
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,760
Chris Ray when we do these 
podcasts and have Steve call and

1104
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,040
do it. 
And then I, I hyped your your 

1105
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,440
OPR file. 
Give us if I missed anything. 

1106
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:39,800
I think you heard me on the 
intro coming in. 

1107
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:43,200
I saw you logging in. 
Give us any background I might 

1108
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,120
have missed. 
And then let's let's launch into

1109
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,600
one or whatever you got for me 
today. 

1110
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:50,640
All right, so, yeah, I'm just 
pushing it out on truth and on 

1111
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:52,400
Twitter. 
I want as many people to see it 

1112
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:53,960
as I can. 
I'm really just trying to draw 

1113
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:58,120
this stark contrast between, you
know, today's day 86 for me. 

1114
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:01,800
I assume you lost con, you know,
count of how many days you've 

1115
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,800
been gone. 
It's 200 something. 

1116
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:08,720
So short of a sort of a summary 
dismissal, I think we are well 

1117
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:11,240
in excess of of anything that 
that we see here. 

1118
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,600
And it's for things like in your
case, not putting AQ tip up your

1119
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,360
nose and for me, accessing the 
employee handbook. 

1120
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:21,400
But I guess that's far worse 
than sexual harassment and, you 

1121
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,200
know, failure to safeguard your 
weapon, all that and the like. 

1122
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,960
So I'm pushing that out. 
And hopefully, you know, that 

1123
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,200
catches on with the with folks 
because they, they get a chance 

1124
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,880
to see it. 
These are super OPSEC within the

1125
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,040
Bureau and they're not for 
public for public dissemination,

1126
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:39,560
which is isn't to me just a 
miscarriage of justice because I

1127
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,760
think this is worthy of the 
public's knowledge. 

1128
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,720
Yeah, not only that, I mean, 
there's nothing that's law 

1129
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,400
enforcement sensitive here. 
There's nothing. 

1130
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,000
It's only embarrassment to the 
FBI. 

1131
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:49,840
And so the idea that they would 
hide these files and make them 

1132
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:53,360
non distributable is really the 
FBI covering for the FBI because

1133
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:55,680
they need to keep the reputation
of the FBI, which at this point 

1134
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120
is somewhat trashed. 
What is the the hashtag that 

1135
00:48:58,120 --> 00:48:59,600
people can search to to pull 
that up? 

1136
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:03,080
#Opr files. 
So spell that out. 

1137
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:09,200
OPRFILES. 
OK, so just spelled out they can

1138
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,720
read how many of you posted so 
far? 

1139
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:12,440
So I've done it over the 
weekend. 

1140
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,960
So today I came up with 
installment #9 was the last one.

1141
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:21,320
And you know, just only so far 
I've only worked through one 

1142
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:25,080
month's worth of the quarterly 
emails, so a lot left in the 

1143
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,760
tank. 
Yeah, and as you kind of shared 

1144
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,480
with us and and I'm sure the FBI
headquarters people that are 

1145
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360
required to monitor us are, are 
quaking in their boots to know 

1146
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:39,240
you pulled 4/4 monthly emails or
quarterly emails, 4 quarterly 

1147
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,640
emails for a period of five 
years. 

1148
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,440
So 2020 or so of these these 
lists. 

1149
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:46,520
And we are through one of them 
at this point. 

1150
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:50,240
And the things that we've seen 
so far are, you know, abuse of a

1151
00:49:50,240 --> 00:49:52,760
spouse, choking, knocking 
somebody unconscious in front of

1152
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:56,200
your children. 
We've seen having sexual affairs

1153
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,520
with confidential human sources 
and lying about it to your own 

1154
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,680
spouse who worked for the Bureau
as well, which is a cool move to

1155
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,760
do. 
We've seen some alcohol, which 

1156
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:07,960
is pretty standard, the kind of 
classic abuse of alcohol and 

1157
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:11,240
then abuse of local cops once 
you've been corrupted for your 

1158
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,040
alcohol problem. 
That's kind of a real classic 

1159
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:17,520
FBI move that wrapping the view 
car around the tree is 1 we have

1160
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,600
yet, but I know that there's 
probably one of those in there. 

1161
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:23,880
So, you know, just the kind of 
the sundry, what you call them 

1162
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,760
low lights, I think it's a 
really good way of describing 

1163
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:27,440
it. 
Low lights of FBI behavior who 

1164
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,880
are normal human beings and and,
you know, do all kinds of 

1165
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:31,440
screwed up things like anybody 
else. 

1166
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,920
The difference is, is that, you 
know, they have the standard to 

1167
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,800
maintain, which is that they are
kind of above, you know, any 

1168
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,800
kind of scrutiny like this and 
people still fail at it. 

1169
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:43,240
And then the FBI doesn't want 
anybody to know about it, which 

1170
00:50:43,240 --> 00:50:44,880
is where I think you and I have 
the real problem with it. 

1171
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,080
Oh exactly, and and and don't 
miss today's latest dump which 

1172
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,040
was the the person who was 
molesting the 8 year old family 

1173
00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:55,360
member on multiple occasions. 
So, you know, we do run the 

1174
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:59,480
gambit from booze Broads and 
view cards to pedophiles. 

1175
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,480
Right. 
And and of course, the other 

1176
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,480
thing we notice is that they 
don't tell us whether or not 

1177
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,880
that was referred for criminal 
prosecution, which should have 

1178
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,640
been what you LED with in my 
book. 

1179
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,160
I I mean, I think you feel the 
same way. 

1180
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,040
Yep. 
So just two for you today. 

1181
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,200
Still in the same same quarter 
of the e-mail. 

1182
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:17,280
These will be put out on the 
hashtag, so maybe it'll taste. 

1183
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:20,000
This will be for, you know, 
behind the paywall, if, for lack

1184
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,160
of a better term, for folks to 
encourage them to listen to the 

1185
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,680
podcast or they can wait for me 
to post it the following couple 

1186
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,240
of days. 
So producer Phil Kyle Serafin be

1187
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,920
prepared for the first. 
It is a violation of source 

1188
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:38,760
guidelines, falsified web TA, 
lack of candor not underoath, 

1189
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:43,960
and unprofessional conduct. 
So for Bangor employee tasked to

1190
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:46,800
CHS with performing operational 
activities without first 

1191
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,320
obtaining required approval from
an outside agency. 

1192
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:52,680
The CHS was on probation with 
the State Department of 

1193
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:55,080
Corrections and employee was 
required to obtain the 

1194
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,760
permission from the DOC 
Commissioner. 

1195
00:51:56,760 --> 00:52:00,880
Prior to operating the CHS 
employee falsely entered on 

1196
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:03,560
official FBI form source opening
communication that the employee 

1197
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,200
had obtained the required 
permission. 

1198
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:09,240
The employee also falsified web 
TA records to reflect that the 

1199
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:11,480
employee had worked when in fact
he had not. 

1200
00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,400
The employee lacked candor when 
questioned by the supervisor 

1201
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:15,760
about completing work 
assignments. 

1202
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,640
The employee also transported 
spouse and minor child in a 

1203
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:24,520
government leased vehicle. 
Yeah and finally the employee 

1204
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,120
engaged in unprofessional 
conduct by playing video games 

1205
00:52:27,120 --> 00:52:30,480
and watching ESPN on a personal 
cell phone during work hours, 

1206
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:33,200
including at a search site when 
local law enforcement officials 

1207
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,600
sought employees assistance in 
aggravation. 

1208
00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,440
Employee had been an FBI 
employee for a little more than 

1209
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,480
a year and repeatedly engaged in
dishonest communications with 

1210
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,000
the supervisor. 
Integrity is an FBI core value. 

1211
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:49,720
Employee lost the trust of the 
supervisor and Co workers so I 

1212
00:52:49,720 --> 00:52:52,760
think it's a fair to come play 
but give me your guess. 

1213
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:55,280
Oh, this person's toast. 
Yeah, that's a dismissal. 

1214
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:58,720
Summarily dismissed before they 
could even resign. 

1215
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,720
What do you think, Phil? 
Well, yeah, I mean, it's 

1216
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:03,640
definitely a dismissal and I'm 
wondering if they were even off 

1217
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,280
probation, which means it was 
even easier to get rid of them. 

1218
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:08,920
So I'm going to say some 
dismissal. 

1219
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:11,280
Definitely dismissal. 
Not summer dismissal, just 

1220
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,280
regular dismissal. 
But you know that's the only 

1221
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,840
thing too. 
If this was a probationary guy I

1222
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,200
don't know why they bother with 
the OPR. 

1223
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:19,480
They should have just walked him
out. 

1224
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,400
And, and we're going to have a 
guest that comes on in maybe the

1225
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,680
next week or so who's a friend 
of mine. 

1226
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:31,680
And he was walked out because he
didn't wear a suit jacket to 

1227
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,680
court for an initial when the 
case agent, yeah, when the case 

1228
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,000
agent was probably wearing torn 
jeans and a freaking T-shirt. 

1229
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,360
So that that I mean, this is the
seriousness of the FBI. 

1230
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,320
Like we, we do an OPR for this 
person who clearly was just a 

1231
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,440
screw up and a real cop. 
And, and I say that because he 

1232
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:50,280
was a cop and he is a cop again,
you know, gets walked out for 

1233
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,360
not wearing a jacket over his 
freaking shirt and tie. 

1234
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,240
It's, it's just, it's 
absurdities on top of 

1235
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,080
absurdities. 
All right? 

1236
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,080
Give me #2 all. 
Right #2 Supervisory employee 

1237
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,560
accepted gifts from a vendor. 
A company that bids on contracts

1238
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:04,480
with and has received contracts 
from the FBI. 

1239
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,960
Oh, it gets it gets a little 
more spicy. 

1240
00:54:11,080 --> 00:54:11,600
It's a little. 
More. 

1241
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,520
Employee attended 2 professional
sporting events as a guest of 

1242
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,560
the vendor. 
The cost of tickets was in 

1243
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,640
excess of the $20 limit imposed 
by the ethics policy. 

1244
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,400
A second vendor saw the employee
with the first vendor at one of 

1245
00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,040
the games and complained to the 
FBI that the employees 

1246
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,600
association with the first 
vendor was the reason that the 

1247
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,000
second vendor did not win the 
contract with the FBI. 

1248
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,520
The employees actions created 
the appearance of impropriety 

1249
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:39,200
and favoritism. 
The employee also accepted a day

1250
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:42,440
of shooting at a shooting range.
So this guy like guns, this is a

1251
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,240
problem. 
And failed to pay his full share

1252
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:48,080
for the arranged time and 
ammunition which exceeded $20. 

1253
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:51,640
Failed to seek advice from the 
FBI's Office of Integrity and 

1254
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Compliance. 
All right. 

1255
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:55,120
Which I forgot. 
I forgot they have that. 

1256
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,360
We have that. 
OK, Yeah, we do know that's 

1257
00:54:57,360 --> 00:54:58,240
real. 
That's definitely real. 

1258
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,480
It seems like it should be 
something for Twitter but OK in 

1259
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,560
in mitigation employee has a 
positive performance history and

1260
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,840
no prior disciplinary history. 
Aggravation employee supervisor 

1261
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:11,560
held to a higher standard, 
employees actions from the FB is

1262
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:15,240
reputation blah blah blah. 
Your guess is please. 

1263
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:20,200
I think that he was he or she 
was promoted immediately and is 

1264
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,960
now a assistant director, 
probably in charge of some kind 

1265
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,320
of sensitive relationship with 
like another government agency. 

1266
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,760
This sounds a lot like this is 
not the right one, but it sounds

1267
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,320
like the lady who took the 
sports tickets and then got 

1268
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,520
charge of the FB is relationship
with the CIA because why not? 

1269
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,720
I I honestly think this person 
probably got almost nothing and 

1270
00:55:37,720 --> 00:55:39,600
and then promoted. 
But Phil, what do you think? 

1271
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:43,360
I'm going to go with 30 days, 
you know, definitely not. 

1272
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,800
Nothing worse than that. 
But you know, I mean, there's 

1273
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,240
got to be some kind of 
punishment. 

1274
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,360
Yep, 14 day suspension then 
probably retired and got a chief

1275
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,600
counsel position over a social 
media committee, no? 

1276
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:59,280
No, no 14 day suspension and 
then promote it knowing that 

1277
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,400
this person was compromised and 
is willing to bend ethics like 

1278
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,840
they become a senior manager. 
That's the way we do it here. 

1279
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,280
All right, well I appreciate you
sharing that so people can check

1280
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,600
out the OPR files on your two 
handles. 

1281
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:15,800
You are on Truth at Real under 
score, Steve Friend and then on 

1282
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,960
Twitter if you want to see it 
there, it's at Real Steve 

1283
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:21,520
Friend. 
No punctuation, just to keep 

1284
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:24,040
things spicy. 
Once again, I will be the only 

1285
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,080
person who can keep track of 
this stuff because I care. 

1286
00:56:26,240 --> 00:56:27,920
I care deeply. 
I appreciate it, man. 

1287
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,520
Oh, and I will say one more 
thing. 

1288
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:32,800
I'm about to hit send on this on
Twitter. 

1289
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,760
I am going to be putting out 
that I am keep it. 

1290
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:38,640
So I am going to be throwing my 
hat in the ring. 

1291
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,480
I volunteer as tribute to be the
speaker of the House. 

1292
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,240
My only conditions are that FBI 
whistleblowers are the top 

1293
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:47,600
priority for the Judiciary 
Committee and Kyle Seraphin is 

1294
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,240
going to be my Sergeant at arms.
So look for that. 

1295
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:52,120
Sold. 
I'm in. 

1296
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,360
Do you have any preferred 
calibers that you would like to 

1297
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,080
list instead of pronouns? 
All the guns with. 

1298
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:59,960
Your candidacy. 
All the guns. 

1299
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:04,440
He says all the guns we're going
to go up to like large multi 

1300
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,920
million 120mm shells all the way
down to 22. 

1301
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,120
We got the funds brother, we 
just printed. 

1302
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,880
It OK, yeah print the money and 
then we can just give it to your

1303
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,400
Ukraine or not and we're all 
good Yep sounds good. 

1304
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,760
Hey, thanks for sharing the OPR 
files, people. 

1305
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,960
Check it out. 
Go look in there and you will 

1306
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,440
find the eternal Vadnais that 
you expected and all the 

1307
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:25,480
disappointments that are out 
there. 

1308
00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,600
Thanks for joining us for the 
Kyle Seraphin Show. 

1309
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,120
I guess we have settled on this 
name Against my will. 

1310
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,880
Producer Phil has started 
calling it that. 

1311
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,960
He even sends me text messages 
that I try to figure out what 

1312
00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:38,080
they say. 
And he says, hey, man, when's 

1313
00:57:38,080 --> 00:57:41,400
the next TKSS? 
And I'm wondering what in God's 

1314
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,320
name is TKSS? 
It is the Kyle Seraphin show. 

1315
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,280
He actually got us like a 
terrible picture that people 

1316
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:49,760
told me makes me look 
constipated. 

1317
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,400
I tend to agree. 
My wife hates it, but it is what

1318
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,560
it is. 
We'll get a better, we'll get a 

1319
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,720
better picture. 
So you can find us on Apple and 

1320
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,560
Spotify and Beanpod, I think. 
Is that right, Phil? 

1321
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,360
Beanpod. 
Yeah, Pod Bean, pretty much 

1322
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,280
anywhere you download your 
typical podcast. 

1323
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,240
We're on all of them now. 
That's right. 

1324
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,200
And if you want to go look, 
we're also the video versions on

1325
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,640
rumble. 
So if you want to see my smiling

1326
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,440
face and if you want to see the 
the highly sweet guisely 

1327
00:58:14,440 --> 00:58:17,160
automatics AR15 in the 
background with a dead air 

1328
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:20,000
suppressor on it with a what do 
I got there? 

1329
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:24,920
I got a LVPO and a reptilian 
mount and I got a one to six 

1330
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
vortex razor HD. 
If you guys are getting nerded 

1331
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,200
out, I got a cloud defensive 
light on there that throws out 

1332
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,600
massive, massive lumens and 
serious candela power. 

1333
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,920
That's, that's how I roll. 
And I got an arm bar on top 

1334
00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:37,520
because you never know when you 
might have to shoot close. 

1335
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That's, that's actually my FBI 
duty weapon that I bought for 

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myself. 
And it had, can I just say it 

1337
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had a gay FBI badge on the side 
of it. 

1338
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It was really embarrassing. 
It was just kind of like screen 

1339
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printed on there. 
So I, I, I spray painted it with

1340
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a rattle can, as many of you 
folks who have been in the 

1341
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military know how to do. 
I rattle can that sucker up and 

1342
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,720
they told me that was a possible
OPR offense. 

1343
00:58:58,280 --> 00:59:02,080
Coloring your gun to make it fit
the desert backdrop is against 

1344
00:59:02,080 --> 00:59:04,120
the FBI policy by the way. 
It's not in the FBI policy. 

1345
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,880
I would be willing to go to the 
mat with anybody. 

1346
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,800
They said that it was 
resurfacing the weapon and I, as

1347
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,120
someone who has been paid to do 
Sera coding and Dura coding and 

1348
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,120
KG gun coding and have dozens of
weapons under my under my belt 

1349
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,200
when it comes to baking on 
finishes that are micro 

1350
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,400
ceramics, I would go ahead and 
take I would take issue with 

1351
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:25,280
their judgement and I'm willing 
to go to court for that too. 

1352
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:28,520
So anyway, that is a straight 
hour that we've done here on the

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00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Kyle Seraphin show. 
Like subscribe, give us a funny 

1354
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,480
review. 
I'll read 1 next time. 

1355
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Phil will have to queue one of 
that for me. 

1356
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,960
And we really appreciate you 
listening it. 

1357
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,840
It's a nice voice for the agent 
community that is coming to me. 

1358
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:43,120
And stay tuned for some really 
exciting interviews coming up. 

1359
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:44,680
We've got some fun ones. 
So thanks again, folks. 

1360
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,520
Thanks for listening to the Kyle
Seraphin show. 

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00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,760
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