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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower. 

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An American Patriot prepare to 
embrace the uncomfortable truth 

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because this program has no time
for comforting lies here. 

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Our civil liberties, 
enthusiasts, Second Amendment, 

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Defender and recovering FBI 
agent, Kyle seraphim. 

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Hello my friends and welcome to 
the Kyle Serafin show. 

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Today is Friday. 
It's Friday. 

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May the 5th that's Cinco de Mayo
I guess they'll be some 

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celebrations today. 
Some of you will be having some 

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services and margaritas and that
will be the total extent of your

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Spanish. 
Today's episode is about the 

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seditious conspiracy. 
We've been hearing a lot about 

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that in the federal courts. 
We've been hearing that they are

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Oath Keepers and there are proud
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And of this seditious 
conspiracy. 

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I want to dig into what is that 
that thing. 

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And I also want you to ponder 
the following. 

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The left is famous, absolutely 
famous for projecting and 

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projection is when you look out 
and you see your Tormentor and 

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you ascribe all of your faults 
and failings to them in exactly 

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the same way. 
So are we seeing the projection 

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of seditious conspiracy? 
I named this article or this 

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episode, when the Here's our 
activist, we're going to be 

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talking about how that is the 
case and who the investigators 

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are. 
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just the mainstream media, who 
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things. 
But it is, in fact, the federal 

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government and sometimes even 
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involved. 
In this, sort of activist moves,

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I want to welcome all of you 
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to light podcast. 
In the chat, very happy to see 

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you all. 
Thanks so much if you want to 

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hit that comment and leave 
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If it hits you while we're 
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Please do and I will address it 
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Or give us a like on the rumble 
Channel folks, if you are not 

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listening to us live on Rumble, 
you can always join us at 9:30 

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eastern time at 8:30 in Texas 
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If you don't know why we call it
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It's because you've never been, 
I was just having this 

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conversation with Steve Gray, 
who's a former FBI agent, a 

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retired guy and a former guest 
of the Kyle Serafin show and we 

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were discussing something about 
you know living in Jersey and 

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some of the Tyranny that he has 
to deal with he actually has 

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some Space debris. 
So thank God for him. 

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But he was talking about, you 
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and what would it by him in 
Texas and I said well it depends

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on where you go in Texas. 
But there are places in Texas 

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where you could go by, you know,
20 to 50 acres and a beautiful 

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house, for whatever you dump, 
whatever the places you're 

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living in Jersey. 
So, not trying to recruit people

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to state of Texas. 
Although I've been here and I've

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moved here seven times. 
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was in third grade and my family
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government Governor, Ann 
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Naturalized Texan. 
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So today we're going to get 
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kind of warm up. 
Something that got me, bothered,

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I think a lot of this is going 
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So if you haven't done your 
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this podcast with you for the 
workout. 

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It's it got me hyped up and I 
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either I made the sore mistake 
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I went out for a run and then I 
jumped on and did a TV hit with 

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with Emerald Robinson, who's a 
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And as Very gracious to me and 
the other suspend apples and and

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I'm still sweating. 
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me, and then I had to go with 
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pretty wild. 
So anyway, welcome to all you in

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the live chat. 
Here we go. 

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Let's, let's talk about our 
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And this issue is something that
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our guest from Wednesday. 
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Memorial page. 
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good things that happened at the
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us. 
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losses. 
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and the Brotherhood Sisterhood 
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who generally speaking, do have 
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we're talking about that people 
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life on the line every single 
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to, to move that narrative. 
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For example, the federal Air 
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Did not good for so many 
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this. 
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tribute here. 
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brought to my attention, and I'm
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made me cringe as well, which is
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This is senior federal Air, 
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covid-19 on a presumed Duty 
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I've been told that there was 
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And for those of us that were 
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like probably most Of you did 
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stop even though the federal 
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served in the Air Marshals for 
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retirement check and was 
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field office. 
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This is the kind of person that 
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that served as local police 
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People that enlisted or served 
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went into Federal service 
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of office meant. 
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descriptions of his friends, 
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those guys, he survived by wife 
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September 9th of 2020, which is 
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covid. 
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Wednesday show and while that 
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contrast it with with a video. 
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video up so we'll just leave 
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I can trust it. 
The video, I'll encourage you to

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go to my Twitter feed. 
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there is a video that I posted 
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Americans to that list of 
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And they made a video, a cutesy 
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those nurses dancing. 
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them throwing objects from the 
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right side of the screen, and 
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they're smoking cigars. 
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golf balls in their backyard, 
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all the things that people did 
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weren't actually working for the
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Meanwhile, Ken was doing his 
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safe and whether you agree with 
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irrelevant because I can, I 
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resume the. 
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he believed in America, and He's
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that, meanwhile, his colleagues 
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is what the video is about. 
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a beer while they were getting 
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Probably the same amount as him.
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should in Rage. 
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probably is going to do the same
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All right, let's dig into this. 
Some of the stuff I really 

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appreciate Sharon. 
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she's Rollin, you all up and 
asking to hit those those 

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Let's start right here with the 
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Of the United States. 
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general and some silliness that 
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You guys can't hear the audio. 
Make sure you let me know, but 

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it should be working here. 
We're going to here, 35 seconds 

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of my buddy calls him, the elf 
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employee and calls. 
This guy, the elf we like to 

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refer to him as the general 
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keep calling him that in 
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attorney general, the United 
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tweet. 
This was just the easiest place 

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to find the video. 
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This is what he had to say about
the most recent, seditious 

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conspiracy charges We have 
secured the convictions of 

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defendants who obstructed, the 
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election, as well as the 
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And now, after three trials we 
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leaders of both the proud boys 
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seditious conspiracy, 
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Our work will continue. 
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and they will continue doing 
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there's no reason for you not to
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When they say here's the deal. 
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thousand defendants and if you 
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foolish on you. 
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going to continue to lock in 
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about the case of Jarrod Weiss. 
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some awful things on January 6 
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historically been beneath. 
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been too small for federal law 
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misdemeanors. 
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that and as predicted, those of 
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riled up about Merrick Garland, 
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I want to Pivot over to a two 
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As you know we don't always try 
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what I try and bring you as 
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if you follow Joe Rogan, and if 
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But what he's talking about? 
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When you see me looking over to 
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where my other screen is. 
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And Matt, Taibbi is explaining 
something that he and I have 

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talked about long-form hours of 
this and I think he has a very, 

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very good grasp and he says it 
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So I'm gonna get another voice 
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And here we go. 
This is Matt Taibbi, saying his 

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piece. 
Let's see if we can make that. 

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Are we gonna make that little? 
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So this is another topic that is
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gotten a ton of press. 
But if you go back all the way 

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to the early 70s, the the CIA, 
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trouble for various things. 
The CIA for assassination, 

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schemes involving people like 
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cointelpro and other programs 
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And they made changes after 
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church committee that basically 
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have to have some kind of reason
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investigating somebody. 
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criminal predicate and we want 
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cases. 
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all this back. 
There was a series of Attorney 

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General memos. 
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Now they can be doing basically,
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the time. 
They can be infiltrating groups 

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for no reason at all, not to 
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that's why they're there. 
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in these groups, they're, 
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outside of the homes of people. 
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but they're not building cases. 
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investigating crimes. 
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That's as much as I want to do 
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into the typical Joe Rogan where
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are keeping this thing family 
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does it line up in does it not 
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conversations, he was 100% sure 
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true and what he said to me and 
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stick with me for a very long 
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will actually have time to do 
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pretty wild. 
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story. 
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about the FBI. 
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when you look at the Twitter 
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parallel to it, but what he said
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biggest story in the country? 
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was it is you just haven't 
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by that belief. 
This is the biggest story in our

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country. 
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my lifetime that the FBI has 
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activities the things that 
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I see Eric is in the chat. 
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fought in a sandbox and you 
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their body and some of them gave
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birthdays and and Days and stuff
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kids, the the birth of their 
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keep this thing going on, and 
they did it for what, like, what

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that the seditious conspiracy 
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So, when I bring on the, the 
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words like treason and 
conspiracy and Sedition, they 

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have meanings, they have 
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So let's find out what those 
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These are all together. 
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because I think it's relevant to
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Have the specific meanings their
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that's left and right. 
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There are far too. 
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into the world and say, well, 
this person is committing 

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treason. 
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Do you even know what the 
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murder like this guy. 
Murdered somebody. 

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Homicide. 
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politicians. 
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words, but it be worthwhile for 
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time. 
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All right, this is 18 USC, 
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most of the criminal statutes 
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under criminal law. 
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18, has a lot of the stuff that 
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federal court. 
There's a couple of them have 

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been charged now and totter 
under title 44, the proud boys 

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trial and the only Both Keepers,
but 18 USC. 

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This is 2381 treason. 
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regarding treason. 
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allegiance to the United States.
So, this is a person that you 

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can't commit treason. 
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the United States, and there may
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what that means. 
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probably have to have an oath of
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I don't know if you owe 
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So there's some questions there 
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Qualified to answer but it's 
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Meaning they all mean something,

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whoever owes allegiance to the 
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Levees war against them or 
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Also very specific, giving them 
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United States or elsewhere, is 
guilty of treason and shall 

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suffer death or shall be in 
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and fined under this title, not 
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Okay. 
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be incapable of holding office 
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This is the one they love, 
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treason charge under someone 
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could keep him away. 
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Look how intense that is. 
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shall suffer death or be in 
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years. 
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years in prison, that's kind of 
intense. 

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That's a, that's a statutory 
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That's, that's the same. 
That's That's the maximum 

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charge. 
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laser at an aircraft. 
I just happen to know that one 

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off the top of my head because I
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were looking at charging it 
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So five years in prison is 
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not quite commensurate with the 
death penalty. 

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So there are obviously degrees 
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committed and then the fine 
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thousand dollars. 
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not seen any treason charges, 
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has been bandied about, right? 
There's another piece right 

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here. 
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Misprision of trees. 
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we're going to go right to 
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because that's been bandied 
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And then the next, the next 
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section is seditious, 
conspiracy, Rebellion or 

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Insurrection, whoever insights 
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assists or engages in any 
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against the authority of the 
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thereof or gives Aid or comfort.
They're too shall be fined under

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this title, or in prison. 
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and she'll be incapable of 
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United States. 
So let's look at the pieces of 

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what it Insurrection looks like 
they have to. 

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First of all to find 
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actually defined by Statute 
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where did these statutes come 
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historical establishment of 
these things because it's 

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relevant. 
And it also says that if they're

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going Insurrection against the 
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the laws thereof gives Aid or 
Comfort there too, and they 

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could be fined again in prison 
not more than 10 years. 

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So a maximum Mm. 
Mm of 10 years in this case. 

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Seditious conspiracy will do 
that one, too. 

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And then we'll talk about all of
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Seditious conspiracy middle of 
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2380 for if two or more persons 
so the conspiracy have to be two

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or more persons in any state or 
territory or in any place 

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subject to the jurisdiction of 
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overthrow, put down, or to 
destroy by force the government 

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of the United States or to Levy 
war against them, or to oppose 

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by force the authority thereof 
or By force to prevent hinder or

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delay. 
The execution of any law of the 

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United States, or by force to 
seize take or possess any 

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property of the United States, 
contrary to the authority. 

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There of they shall be fined 
under this title or imprisoned 

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not more than 20 years or both 
so Rebellion or Insurrection 

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holds a not more than 10 years 
seditious conspiracy which means

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you didn't even actually do it, 
you just planned it. 

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That's a 20-year penalty up to 
20 years, Eric in the chat is 

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saying that these statutes are 
awfully vague and there is no 

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question about it. 
These words all have to have 

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meanings. 
They all have to be decided by 

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the courts. 
What they mean and they are, in 

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fact, quite vague. 
And what's interesting is that 

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Rebellion or Insurrection is 
actually a lower charge than 

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seditious conspiracy. 
So they continued to call this 

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thing, an Insurrection and yet 
they went out and accused 

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seditious conspiracy. 
The thing that I think is quite 

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interesting, is by force to 
prevent hinder or delay, the 

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execution of any law, All of the
United States is that not what 

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antifa was doing? 
Is that not what was going on in

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Portland, in Seattle, has that 
not been going on with the 

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antifa types. 
The political left that are 

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doing these sort of shock troop 
actions, where they are trying 

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to shut down a federal court, 
isn't that the execution of any 

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law in the United States? 
How about the they were trying 

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to defend and and keep people 
from getting into those 

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buildings. 
And those people were, I would 

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say again by force to prevent 
hinder or delay. 

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They were trying to do that but 
moreover They were conspiring to

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do that, to destroy by force 
United States government 11, you

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know, they were all fighting 
against this. 

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That's what the chop zones were 
in Seattle. 

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That's what it is. 
When you said that your laws no 

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longer apply to us. 
I honestly think that these 

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things. 
Once again, are the perfect 

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projection of this leftist 
ideology and they've thrown it 

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up on a couple of groups that I 
don't think fit the bill and 

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those bills are The Oath 
Keepers, and the proud boys. 

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So, it's worth noting who these 
groups are and it's worth noting

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that as far back as 2017 and it 
probably goes beyond that. 

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But I had briefings by the 
Washington field office 

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counterterrorism Squad 1. 
This was the so-called tip of 

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the spear for Washington DC's 
counter terrorism task forces 

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and they gave briefings to new 
agents like myself. 

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About, who is the, who is the 
danger in the far, right? 

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And this briefing was one of 
those things where I would have 

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described it as a shotgun blast,
if it, even you have ever gone 

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to a shooting range and fired 
against a like a like a 

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cardboard Target, it's real 
specific. 

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If you shoot a shotgun, a lot of
people think that just like, you

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know, explode out of the end of 
the barrel and they go in all 

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directions, that's not the case.
There's a reason why you can 

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actually shoot a bird with a 
shotgun is because it depends on

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the choke, right? 
Which is the how it tightens 

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down the pattern of the shot. 
That Comes out. 

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And this was a shotgun blast 
from distance with a unimproved 

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cylinder which is to say the 
most wide setting of your choke.

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And it was a, it was just a 
blast that hit all parts of the 

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target. 
If you're let's say at 25 yards 

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with double-ought buckshot, I've
done this with the FBI actually.

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So a lot of FBI agents will even
know what I'm talking about. 

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If you stand back there, pump in
a shell and rip that trigger and

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hit the cardboard. 
It's going to be all over it. 

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It's going to have a 10 12 inch 
spread. 

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It's about the size of maybe a 
Paper-plate dinner plate, you 

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can hit all those things and 
that is exactly how this 

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briefing went down. 
They talked about Richard 

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Spencer, who was at the time, 
kind of the, the top-end white 

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nationalist threat that people 
wanted to talk about because he 

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was out there doing this sort of
white nationalist movement, 

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which, you know the difference 
between white nationalism and 

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white supremacy. 
It's sort of lost on me. 

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It's, it's ugly, it's all ugly, 
it's all racial. 

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And as somebody who's got 
friends with different, Skin. 

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We all share the same values, 
that's why they're my buddies. 

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So it, I just find it very 
off-putting and many of them. 

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Most of them served in the 
military and if they didn't, 

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then they're civilians who own 
guns and believe in the same 

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sort of rights that many of you 
who are listening to this, do 

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it's tough. 
It's tough to hear somebody say 

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something. 
Like, you know that the United 

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States is a european-based 
nation. 

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It's like I don't know. 
My wife Came From Italy, they 

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weren't considered white people.
50 years ago in this country, 

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which is one of the jokes that 
she, and I always kind of Bandy 

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about when she gets a tan 
because she gets very Olive. 

452
00:22:42,300 --> 00:22:45,000
This is just, it's really ugly 
because these are the things 

453
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,500
that I think are antithetical to
the conservative position. 

454
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,700
And interestingly enough have 
been part of the Democrat 

455
00:22:49,700 --> 00:22:52,000
position. 
So political, I don't know if 

456
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,700
they're the political left to 
the right or what, the heck they

457
00:22:53,700 --> 00:22:55,600
were because I don't know how to
describe politics going back 

458
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:58,300
before the 1960s. 
But what I do know is that these

459
00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:01,200
people had a racial tends to 
what they were interested in. 

460
00:23:01,300 --> 00:23:04,200
There's a reason why the Klan 
was very big in the areas that 

461
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,300
it was very big and it was all 
racial is all ugly and so white 

462
00:23:07,300 --> 00:23:08,400
nationalist. 
Doesn't matter if you're a 

463
00:23:08,408 --> 00:23:10,700
patriot frond or anything else. 
If you tell me that the United 

464
00:23:10,700 --> 00:23:13,800
States is based on a P and 
identity, I am not interested in

465
00:23:13,808 --> 00:23:15,900
being part of your group. 
I've had them in my Twitter 

466
00:23:15,900 --> 00:23:17,500
mentions, the last couple of 
days, they all want to come and 

467
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:20,400
defend their position that they 
were mainstream positions. 

468
00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:22,400
Pre 1960s. 
It's like, yeah. 

469
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,800
But not, not my people, you 
know, we believe in the 

470
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,100
individual and I'm a big big 
time individualist. 

471
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,200
All right. 
And I'm gonna get off my soapbox

472
00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,700
with that. 
So Richard Spencer, white 

473
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,700
nationalists, they included, 
Jordan Pederson in this 

474
00:23:35,700 --> 00:23:38,100
briefing, they included. 
Milo you Annapolis. 

475
00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:41,100
So now, you have a guy who's 
sort of like a on the Nazi side 

476
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,000
of things or on. 
The, you know, the white 

477
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,500
nationalist supremacist side of 
things, that's kind of a 

478
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,600
racially motivated nonsense. 
And then you've got this guy 

479
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,100
who's a troll which Milo you 
novelist, has been trolling 

480
00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,600
people. 
He's very clever, he's very 

481
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,700
intelligent. 
My wife likes to watch this 

482
00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,300
stuff. 
I find it incredibly off-putting

483
00:23:56,300 --> 00:24:00,400
because he reminds me of one of 
my wife's friends from college, 

484
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,000
which is probably why she likes 
listening to him. 

485
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:07,600
Who's this fort of flamboyant? 
Canadian gay guy, a nice person 

486
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,800
fun to have a beer with. 
I don't want to have any 

487
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,200
discussions with them on an 
intellectual basis because He 

488
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,700
comes from this very dishonest 
place. 

489
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,000
So, that's my lovin apples. 
And then your Jordan Pederson, 

490
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,100
who is a psychologist from 
Canada who are about the nicest 

491
00:24:19,100 --> 00:24:23,500
people in the world, most 
Canadians are so polite. 

492
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,000
And, you know, you see all these
videos of people shutting things

493
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,300
down, even when they shut things
down, like the police are pretty

494
00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:31,700
polite. 
So it's very weird to see 

495
00:24:31,700 --> 00:24:35,100
someone like Jordan Pederson who
simply has saying take 

496
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,200
responsibility for yourself one 
of his favorite. 

497
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,800
You know one of my favorite 
things, we have think we have 

498
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,600
two of his books. 
Pretty sure my wife bought both 

499
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:47,200
Of them, the the, the one about 
religious symbols and I can't 

500
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,000
remember what it's called to my 
shame. 

501
00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:51,500
The other one is called 2012 
rules for life or 12 rules for 

502
00:24:51,500 --> 00:24:53,100
successful living. 
Somebody will correct me in the 

503
00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:56,100
chat here, but Jordan Peterson's
book essentially just says 

504
00:24:56,100 --> 00:24:59,300
handle. 
The things that you can in your 

505
00:24:59,300 --> 00:25:01,400
own sphere. 
Don't try to take on things that

506
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,300
are bigger than yourself which 
is a big leftist thing. 

507
00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:05,800
It's like you can't even get 
your physical appearance 

508
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,500
appropriate to go into public 
and you want to fix the economy 

509
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,600
or you want to tell people how 
they should be voting. 

510
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,300
Or you want to fix laws in Texas
when you live in New York, like 

511
00:25:15,300 --> 00:25:19,300
keep it down, keep it down over 
there you clowns, it's really 

512
00:25:19,300 --> 00:25:23,600
too much but Jordan Peterson was
on the same list of people as 

513
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,900
Richard Spencer, that should 
bother pretty much everybody. 

514
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,100
And they included things like 
the proud boys and antifa. 

515
00:25:30,900 --> 00:25:34,200
So I wanted to bring up well, I 
don't know why they like to 

516
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,500
demonize these things, but I do 
think that it is projection. 

517
00:25:36,500 --> 00:25:38,500
It is once again, something 
proud, boys. 

518
00:25:38,500 --> 00:25:40,000
We're going to talk about their 
history a little bit because I 

519
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,200
followed them for a while. 
I think they're very Arresting, 

520
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,400
I think they're funny. 
I mean, I think Gavin McInnes is

521
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,000
hysterical and I probably would 
have disagreed with Gavin 

522
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,400
McInnes when he was younger, and
I don't agree with everything he

523
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,000
says now. 
But, you know, as far as what 

524
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,600
goes on, pretty ridiculous to 
get Rowdy about the proud boys. 

525
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,400
You can get Rowdy about certain 
people that that engage in 

526
00:25:58,408 --> 00:26:00,200
violence, if you think that 
they're instigating it. 

527
00:26:00,700 --> 00:26:03,700
But the group, like what they 
stand for, it's not, it's not 

528
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,700
threatening to me. 
Let me pull it up here. 

529
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:07,700
This is the Southern Poverty Law
Center as you know it's one of 

530
00:26:07,700 --> 00:26:11,400
the FBI's no goes when it comes 
to listing what you can and 

531
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,800
cannot Not investigate but of 
course they took the lead from 

532
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,900
splc. 
And here you have proud Boys on 

533
00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:21,000
their hatewatch. 
I'm going to read some of this 

534
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:24,300
because I think it's infuriating
and and so will you? 

535
00:26:24,700 --> 00:26:28,600
It says the proud boys actions. 
Belie their disavows of bigotry.

536
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,500
Rank-and-file proud, boys and 
leaders regularly, espoused, 

537
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,600
white nationalist memes and 
maintain affiliations with known

538
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,100
extremist. 
Somebody mentioned the other 

539
00:26:38,100 --> 00:26:40,100
day, too. 
I think it was, I think it was 

540
00:26:40,100 --> 00:26:43,300
Adam Coleman who's a guy on 
Twitter that I follow and he 

541
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:45,700
said, you know, the degrees of 
separation, the so-called took 

542
00:26:45,700 --> 00:26:49,500
meetings with or you know has an
associated with or maintains 

543
00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:52,800
affiliations with its everybody.
Everybody has an affiliation 

544
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000
with everybody. 
I have an affiliation with Ryan 

545
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,400
Reilly who's at MSNBC because 
I've engaged with the guy on 

546
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:01,300
Twitter, And he's done stories 
about what me or my friends have

547
00:27:01,300 --> 00:27:04,000
done, you know, does that mean 
that we're bodies? 

548
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,700
No, it doesn't mean that we 
agree on anything probably not. 

549
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,200
Although I bet if we sat down we
could find a bunch of things we 

550
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,400
agree on. 
That's, that's sort of the 

551
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,800
nature of how I work. 
I always find things that people

552
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,700
and I have in common, even if 
you to turn out to be one of 

553
00:27:16,708 --> 00:27:18,800
these people that work for the 
splc, I bet you we have some 

554
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,400
things in common like we love 
our kids and we want them to 

555
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,400
have successful Futures. 
So, anyway, they say they've 

556
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,000
maintained these affiliations 
with known extremist their 

557
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:28,900
definition of extremists in the 
Southern Poverty Law. 

558
00:27:29,100 --> 00:27:31,400
Under pretty suspect to me. 
It is what it is. 

559
00:27:31,900 --> 00:27:34,600
They are known for an 
anti-muslim and a misogynistic 

560
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,500
rhetoric. 
What's funny is, there are 

561
00:27:36,500 --> 00:27:41,200
entire groups of women that are,
you know, proud boys supporters,

562
00:27:41,300 --> 00:27:43,600
they can't be proud boys because
it's a men's organization. 

563
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,300
And so you have these women that
are like sort of the latch on 

564
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,800
and they support them as well 
because women don't mind men 

565
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,100
that want to hang out with men 
and say, things like that. 

566
00:27:51,500 --> 00:27:53,500
So I don't know. 
Misogynistic, whatever. 

567
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:57,900
My wife, my wife is my wife, and
she backs what I'm up to, and I 

568
00:27:57,908 --> 00:28:00,300
don't say things that are 100 
Like I say things like men are 

569
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,100
men and women are women pretty 
straightforward. 

570
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,100
We've established the basic 
biology in my household so the 

571
00:28:06,100 --> 00:28:08,900
proud boys appeared alongside 
other hate groups at extremist 

572
00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:11,400
Gathering such as unite the 
right rally in Charlottesville. 

573
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,800
They love that rally. 
They just love what happened 

574
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,600
there. 
I mean imagine one day just to 

575
00:28:15,608 --> 00:28:17,500
finding so much that in January 
6th. 

576
00:28:17,500 --> 00:28:20,700
If you took the unite the right 
rally and the January 6 thing 

577
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:23,500
and just held them up, they are 
the American Rorschach test. 

578
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:26,100
In fact, I think the the 
treatment of the unite, the 

579
00:28:26,108 --> 00:28:28,900
right rally in Charlottesville 
was the precursor to the way. 

580
00:28:29,100 --> 00:28:33,300
They handled January 6th, the 
the media messaging on both of 

581
00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:37,100
those was so rowdy and so 
ridiculous on what it actually 

582
00:28:37,100 --> 00:28:39,900
was and what it wasn't and what 
it meant, right? 

583
00:28:39,900 --> 00:28:42,100
Because that's the thing. 
They've implied, this incredible

584
00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:45,300
meaning to include seditious 
conspiracy that people are 

585
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:46,900
trying to overthrow the United 
States. 

586
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,100
They got their talking points 
coming right out of this unite. 

587
00:28:49,100 --> 00:28:50,200
The right rally. 
I'm getting through this 

588
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,200
paragraph very slowly but I 
think it's relevant. 

589
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,300
All right. 
Former proud boys member jaysin 

590
00:28:54,300 --> 00:28:56,500
keisler helped organize the 
event, which brought together a 

591
00:28:56,508 --> 00:28:58,900
broad Coalition of extremists, 
including neo-nazis. 

592
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,900
They finally got their 
anti-semites and militias. 

593
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:04,900
These are unrelated groups, 
unless you're the FBI, if you're

594
00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:07,500
the FBI, then militias and 
neo-nazis obviously go hand in 

595
00:29:07,500 --> 00:29:09,400
hand. 
Most the militia groups that you

596
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200
talked about, they just want 
freedom. 

597
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,600
They want to be able to own 
their own weapons. 

598
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,100
They want to be left alone, you 
know, like the founding fathers 

599
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:17,800
of this country. 
So be it, in fact, that's why 

600
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,700
they left it in the 2nd 
Amendment saying that there 

601
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:22,200
should be a, the militia. 
And the militia is everyone. 

602
00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:26,900
We're all the militia. 
So Kessler was expelled from the

603
00:29:26,900 --> 00:29:28,900
group after violence in the new 
near you. 

604
00:29:29,100 --> 00:29:32,500
Versatile condemnation of the 
Charlottesville rally goers. 

605
00:29:32,500 --> 00:29:35,300
I don't know, some of those 
people soft for sure. 

606
00:29:35,900 --> 00:29:38,100
There's things like alt, you 
know, the whole alt Right 

607
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:42,000
movement and in any case, Gavin 
McInnes came up with this group 

608
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,700
called The Proud boys. 
And if anybody has ever listened

609
00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:48,300
to the proud boys, and listen to
Kevin McGinnis, talk about 

610
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:49,500
founding it. 
It's hilarious. 

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,000
But let's just do a quick search
here. 

612
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,100
So this is the search history. 
If you were to pop it in Google,

613
00:29:54,100 --> 00:29:57,600
which I love using because just 
like bungee know, I listened to 

614
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,800
show for from yesterday morning 
and His whole point was that, if

615
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,400
you are not using leftist media 
sources, then you're kind of 

616
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,700
like, leaving yourself open to 
something. 

617
00:30:04,900 --> 00:30:08,300
And yeah, most definitely you're
leaving yourself open. 

618
00:30:08,300 --> 00:30:10,900
So, check out what it says. 
So you look out proud boys 

619
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:13,600
origin. 
You get Wikipedia you get the 

620
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,500
Encyclopedia Britannica, you get
the University of Maryland. 

621
00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:18,900
I have no idea why that's there.
You get something from West 

622
00:30:18,900 --> 00:30:21,500
Point that's kind of funny. 
This West Point article, that's 

623
00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:25,000
a I'm pretty confident. 
That's West Point the military 

624
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,200
academy Pride and Prejudice. 
The violent evolution of The 

625
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,100
Proud, boys. 
Get something from Stanford, you

626
00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:33,600
get the Southern Poverty, Law 
Center, 10 things, down the BBC,

627
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:35,800
who they are, what they stand 
for proud, boys and antifa, 

628
00:30:35,900 --> 00:30:39,200
okay? 
Whatever all of this stuff and I

629
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800
wanted to do the Wikipedia page 
because the Wikipedia page is 

630
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,800
actually quite funny. 
So just look at the, they 

631
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:49,700
condemn them right off the bat 
and then if you read down to it,

632
00:30:49,900 --> 00:30:52,000
none of that makes any sense. 
So the proud boys are an 

633
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,600
exclusively male. 
North American far-right 

634
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,500
neo-fascist organization that 
promotes and engages in 

635
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:58,800
political violence in the 
United. 

636
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,900
States. 
That sounds like some real bad 

637
00:31:00,900 --> 00:31:05,500
guys, and yet, Then they go and 
talk about all these things. 

638
00:31:05,500 --> 00:31:07,800
And, you know, that everybody's 
far, right? 

639
00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:09,800
I like it. 
When when organizations, like 

640
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,700
daily wire refer to anything on 
the left as far left or leftist,

641
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:14,300
and you know, far left is really
good. 

642
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,700
So the history and organization 
the talks about Gavin McInnes 

643
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:18,400
many of, you know, he was abused
a big Lefty. 

644
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:22,800
He founded Vice magazine 1994. 
I remember hearing about Vice 

645
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,100
magazine when I was a kid 
because I would have been in 

646
00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,200
college. 
Probably I was probably high 

647
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,200
school, I guess, and my older 
brother. 

648
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,300
I got two brothers 10 years 
older than me. 

649
00:31:30,300 --> 00:31:33,300
He's my half-brother and he 
talks about, you know, have you 

650
00:31:33,300 --> 00:31:34,100
read? 
Magazine. 

651
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:37,000
I do know, he was exactly the 
demographic for it, so you know 

652
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,000
I'm 41. 
He's 50 right now, ride in that 

653
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,500
age bracket like Vice magazine 
was hitting its stride, he had 

654
00:31:42,500 --> 00:31:45,100
already gotten out of, he'd 
already gotten out of high 

655
00:31:45,100 --> 00:31:48,100
school, he was in college or 
like, young professional and he,

656
00:31:48,100 --> 00:31:51,000
referred to it as stories that 
were on the bloody edge of raw. 

657
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,600
I remember that just like it was
yesterday. 

658
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:55,000
He said that to me, Vice 
magazine, you read it. 

659
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,600
I got no because I'll send you 
one. 

660
00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:59,100
It's stories on the bloody edge 
of raw, they just cover like the

661
00:31:59,108 --> 00:32:02,500
most raw and wild stuff. 
It's a bunch of Rich partygoers 

662
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:04,500
that got bored and they started 
doing journalism. 

663
00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:05,800
That was the way it was 
described to me when I was a 

664
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,300
kid. 
So, you know, Gavin Newsom was 

665
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,000
like a punk rock kind of figure 
in a lot of ways, and punk rock 

666
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,900
in such that kind of damn the 
man, save the Empire thing. 

667
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:18,600
If you guys remember Empire 
Records, which is a movie for 

668
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,700
those of you who are too young 
or too old to remember, Empire 

669
00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:23,600
Records is great movie. 
I think John Cusack was in it. 

670
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:28,700
So you've got this whole wild 
take on this group and and 

671
00:32:28,700 --> 00:32:31,400
here's how they found it, the, 
it's they actually quoted in 

672
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,300
here. 
The name is derived from the 

673
00:32:33,300 --> 00:32:35,500
song. 
Proud of your boy originally 

674
00:32:35,500 --> 00:32:39,200
created for Disney's 1992, film 
Aladdin, which is a brilliant 

675
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:40,300
film. 
By the way, I had to one of my 

676
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:44,800
favorite, one of my absolute 
favorite of the animated Disney 

677
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,100
movies. 
I'm looking forward to my kids 

678
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:48,200
watching it and being able to 
get it because Robin Williams is

679
00:32:48,208 --> 00:32:51,100
so good, right? 
So, it's coming from Aladdin, 

680
00:32:51,100 --> 00:32:53,000
but they left it out because 
they had some changes in the 

681
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:56,300
production and they later 
featured it in a 2011 musical 

682
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:59,100
adaptation, which I assumed was 
a like, a stage show. 

683
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,700
And that's where Gavin heard 
this thing that, you know, 

684
00:33:01,700 --> 00:33:04,200
whatever the song was. 
And in the song Long Aladdin, 

685
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200
apologize to his mom for being a
bad kid. 

686
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,700
He promised to make her proud of
her proud of him. 

687
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,600
And so, McGinnis said he just 
hated the song, he just hated 

688
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,600
the way it sounded, but he 
couldn't stop listening to it. 

689
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,100
I think we all have one of those
ear worms. 

690
00:33:16,100 --> 00:33:17,900
It's like, it's the worst thing 
you've ever heard. 

691
00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:19,100
And yet, it's always in your 
head. 

692
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:23,300
The Octonauts theme song is 
always in my head, is my kid 

693
00:33:23,300 --> 00:33:24,300
like anything. 
My kids watch. 

694
00:33:24,300 --> 00:33:26,300
It just ends up in my head and 
you probably have the same 

695
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:28,000
thing. 
So he described it as fake 

696
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,500
humble and self-serving because 
the lyrics basically were just 

697
00:33:30,500 --> 00:33:33,000
this, this kid, you know, 
pledging to be proud. 

698
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Make his Proud, which is Goofy. 
And so they just use it because 

699
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:40,000
they hated the name like it was,
there was no deepness to it. 

700
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,800
And so, what are they come up 
with? 

701
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,500
They come up with these rules to
create this organization and 

702
00:33:44,500 --> 00:33:46,900
many people may not know this. 
Maybe some of you don't know. 

703
00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:49,400
It it's really funny. 
If you go down to membership and

704
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,000
Doctrine which is under the 
Wikipedia page here it says that

705
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,400
the total number of proud boys 
members is unknown. 

706
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,800
Oh it's so serious. 
It's because it's a loose 

707
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,800
affiliation of dudes that show 
up wearing the same shirt. 

708
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,400
July 2018, you get the proud 
boys. 

709
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,400
La Branch saying they have And 
60 members with 300 applicants 

710
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,400
blah, blah, blah. 
Here's the best political 

711
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,199
ideologies and positions. 
The proud Boys in adhere to 

712
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,300
include. 
This is an amazing list. 

713
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,199
If you're not on this list, get 
to work 80 communism 

714
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:20,400
anti-feminism anti-immigration. 
I would say it's anti-illegal 

715
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,800
immigration because they have a 
lot of immigrants in their group

716
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:27,500
anti LGBT rights, anti-Semitism.
I don't think that's true 

717
00:34:28,500 --> 00:34:31,800
authoritarianism chauvinism 
which they expressly State about

718
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:33,400
their chauvinism, which they 
call Western. 

719
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,699
It has mm. 
And in the idea that they are 

720
00:34:35,699 --> 00:34:39,400
talking about Western Society is
objectively better or at least 

721
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,500
in their, their opinion. 
So it's I guess it's an opinion 

722
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,300
Western Society is better than 
all others and there's some 

723
00:34:44,300 --> 00:34:46,300
argument to be made that are 
highly in favor of that 

724
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,800
including everybody who's on the
left that benefits from you know

725
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:52,900
capitalism and and the Advent of
new products and the Industrial 

726
00:34:52,900 --> 00:34:56,300
Revolution and you name it 
including individual rights and 

727
00:34:56,300 --> 00:34:58,300
you know, even Marxism came out 
of Western Society. 

728
00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:00,100
It wouldn't have existed in 
anywhere else, they would have 

729
00:35:00,100 --> 00:35:04,000
crushed it crypto fascism. 
That's, that's One of those fun 

730
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:05,800
ones. 
Islamophobia, I don't think 

731
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,600
that's actually accurate. 
I think that they are anti you 

732
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,000
don't Muslim terrorists. 
Which many people are including 

733
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:14,100
Muslims, and then trumpism, 
which is obviously the death 

734
00:35:14,100 --> 00:35:18,200
blow for this organization, the,
the Creed apparently four stages

735
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,000
of initiation. 
He refers to it as first second,

736
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,700
third and fourth degree. 
If you listen to gab McGinnis 

737
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:23,800
talk about this and he's been 
banned for all this kind of 

738
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,400
stuff. 
But end of the day there are 

739
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:29,000
four degrees of being a proud 
boy of which a number of my 

740
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,300
friends who work for the FBI and
currently work for the FBI have 

741
00:35:32,300 --> 00:35:34,900
said because they think it's 
Because it's hilarious. 

742
00:35:35,700 --> 00:35:38,800
And in fact, asked one of us to,
you know, punch him while they 

743
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,600
were naming breakfast cereals, 
because this is how silly does. 

744
00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:43,900
The first order is you have to 
say I'm a proud Western 

745
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:46,500
chauvinist which is to say, you 
believe the West is best, which 

746
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,500
many people do, and I have fuse 
refuse to apologize for creating

747
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,400
the modern world. 
It is, I think would be very, 

748
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,900
very difficult to say that, it 
is debatable, that the Western 

749
00:35:56,000 --> 00:36:00,900
mindset and the post Renaissance
Era of Western Europe, has 

750
00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,700
created the modern world, all 
the things that we enjoy Joy 

751
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:08,200
today, come out of basically 
Greece, and then the modern 

752
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,600
Western World starting in 
Europe, coming to the United 

753
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,000
States, Building it up and 
accepting amazingly accepting 

754
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,900
people of all. 
Creed's, all colors, all 

755
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,600
different net, and, you know, 
National Origins and ethnic 

756
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,700
backgrounds. 
My next door neighbor's from 

757
00:36:21,700 --> 00:36:23,700
Kenya. 
Super nice guy. 

758
00:36:24,100 --> 00:36:27,500
Totally Western has Western 
values is a Christian believes 

759
00:36:27,500 --> 00:36:29,900
in things that, you know, we 
have, we were 100% on the same 

760
00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,200
page and we had a conversation. 
The first time we ever met, he 

761
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,700
was carrying a football. 
Just a couple days ago and we 

762
00:36:34,707 --> 00:36:36,700
just threw a football back and 
forth and talk like two, grown 

763
00:36:36,700 --> 00:36:38,200
men. 
That's a very Western thing to 

764
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,100
do. 
I don't know that, that happens 

765
00:36:40,100 --> 00:36:44,000
anywhere else, you know, outside
of Western Society, or would not

766
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,800
happen without Western Society, 
really special stuff. 

767
00:36:47,500 --> 00:36:49,800
And then apparently, in order to
become a second degree, you have

768
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,100
to name 5 breakfast, cereals, 
while being punched. 

769
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,600
They claim it to be a 
pop-culture trivia reference and

770
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,600
of the day, they're talking 
about whether or not you could 

771
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,300
yell 5 breakfast, cereals 
because that's funny. 

772
00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,400
It's a funny thing to do. 
It's the same and it comes from 

773
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,400
the people. 
If those you remember, growing 

774
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,200
up in the 80s or maybe the 90s 
as well. 

775
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,600
The doorknob game which is when 
somebody would you pass gas and 

776
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:09,700
then you'd start banging on them
on the shoulder and punching 

777
00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,500
them that in the back and the 
shoulder and the gut and 

778
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,200
whatever until they touched a 
doorknob. 

779
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,600
If you yell doorknob that's 
where that comes from. 

780
00:37:16,100 --> 00:37:18,300
It's totally innocuous. 
The breakfast cereals. 

781
00:37:18,300 --> 00:37:21,200
Think it's just silly it's an 
arbitrary nonsense, right? 

782
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,900
Third is getting a tattoo and 
agreeing not to masturbate. 

783
00:37:25,900 --> 00:37:28,800
That's not a terrible thing. 
Honestly, probably difficult for

784
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,900
most men but it is a thing that 
that leads you to the thing that

785
00:37:31,900 --> 00:37:35,900
they think is important which is
to say Hey, can you, can you 

786
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:39,600
focus on women and productivity 
and procreation which are 

787
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,700
Western values often Christian 
values? 

788
00:37:42,100 --> 00:37:45,500
You know, it's pretty easy. 
And then the last one is getting

789
00:37:45,500 --> 00:37:47,600
into a major fight for the 
cause, which is to say throwing 

790
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,400
punches and things like that. 
I have no problem with any of 

791
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,700
these things, I cannot I cannot 
tell you if that is an issue but

792
00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,900
to the left it is and you get 
things like these articles. 

793
00:38:00,900 --> 00:38:02,700
This comes from the Associated 
Press, I'm gonna flip it over 

794
00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:04,600
real quick. 
For those of you that are in the

795
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,900
chat, occasionally, I can read 
things. 

796
00:38:05,900 --> 00:38:08,400
Sometimes I'm on a train of 
thought and I cannot. 

797
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:10,700
So just bear with me. 
I saw what you said, Eric, but 

798
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:11,900
I'll have to read in any 
paragraph. 

799
00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:14,500
You guys send is too much for me
to be able to do do live. 

800
00:38:15,100 --> 00:38:17,100
This is the explainer from the 
Associated Press. 

801
00:38:17,100 --> 00:38:19,600
This goes back to January of 
this year, so this is not new 

802
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,300
but it does give you You a 
perspective, the Associated 

803
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:27,900
Press was supposed to be, it was
supposed to be the sort of, this

804
00:38:27,900 --> 00:38:30,200
is the news, and there's no 
opinion involved. 

805
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000
It used to be a wire service 
that just sent out information 

806
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,500
and then people would write 
their opinion pieces based on it

807
00:38:35,900 --> 00:38:38,600
instead. 
You've got the former proud boys

808
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,900
National chairman is standing on
trial for the most serious 

809
00:38:40,900 --> 00:38:43,400
charge the minute that you say, 
it's the most serious charge. 

810
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:48,000
That's not objective. 
I don't think it's seditious 

811
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,300
conspiracy, which we just said 
the same The two oathkeeper 

812
00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:54,100
leaders were convicted of The 
Oath Keepers, by the way, 

813
00:38:54,100 --> 00:38:56,100
another innocuous group in my 
opinion. 

814
00:38:56,100 --> 00:38:58,400
It doesn't mean that there are 
not bad people in all groups. 

815
00:38:58,700 --> 00:39:01,400
However, the idea that you were 
going to swear Your Allegiance 

816
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,800
to say that even though you have
left the service, whether a law 

817
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:06,500
enforcement or military member 
and you're going to still uphold

818
00:39:06,500 --> 00:39:09,800
your oath, that's the purpose of
The Oath Keepers on its face. 

819
00:39:09,900 --> 00:39:12,100
It's a ridiculous thing to say 
that that is a, that is a 

820
00:39:12,100 --> 00:39:14,200
danger. 
In fact, that is protecting 

821
00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:17,100
because part of the oath, is 
that you protect the United 

822
00:39:17,100 --> 00:39:20,400
States for your whole life 
enemies foreign and domestic. 

823
00:39:20,500 --> 00:39:23,800
Eric as my buddy, Steve friend 
loves to say the oath does not 

824
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,500
expire until we do military 
veterans know that and feel the 

825
00:39:27,508 --> 00:39:29,100
same way. 
That's why they signed up and 

826
00:39:29,100 --> 00:39:31,200
served. 
Many of them took significant 

827
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,100
injuries or lost very very 
important parts of their their 

828
00:39:35,100 --> 00:39:37,800
life some of them lost 
marriages, some of them lost you

829
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,500
know experiences and they 
believe in this sort of thing 

830
00:39:40,500 --> 00:39:42,100
call us old-fashioned, but 
that's real. 

831
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,000
So this one says that the third 
trial of the master prosecution 

832
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400
of January 6, they are correct. 
It is a massive prosecution, I 

833
00:39:47,408 --> 00:39:49,000
guess. 
But once again, that even that 

834
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:53,800
is a charged language, The the 
right Force Congress to adjourn 

835
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,300
as filmmakers and staff, hit 
from a mild, violent mob. 

836
00:39:57,300 --> 00:39:57,900
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

837
00:39:57,900 --> 00:39:59,600
Openings charges. 
So they go on, they're going to 

838
00:39:59,607 --> 00:40:02,100
talk about, Andre Kate REO. 
Some of these things actually 

839
00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:04,300
referred to him as Enrique in 
quotes because that's not 

840
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,200
apparently his legal name. 
I don't know if it is or not, 

841
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,800
but I've never heard him 
referred to as Henry torrio, but

842
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,700
they want to go ahead and talk 
about that. 

843
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,800
All right. 
On January 6, they took aim at 

844
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:17,200
the heart of our democracy. 
You want to talk about somebody?

845
00:40:17,500 --> 00:40:20,200
That is grandstanding. 
This is a USA, Jason McCullough.

846
00:40:20,500 --> 00:40:24,600
Telling the jurors on the 19th. 
This, this trial, you know, it 

847
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,800
went on and on we've been seeing
pieces of it as my 

848
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:28,500
understanding, there was a 
mistrial, it says, here you go. 

849
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,500
Here's the description of the 
people that we just saw 

850
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:34,300
convicted yesterday, or in the 
last two days to REO is from 

851
00:40:34,300 --> 00:40:38,200
Miami standing trial with Ethan,
or Dean from Auburn, Washington 

852
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,800
was probably as chapter 
President Joe Biggs from Ormond 

853
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:43,600
Beach. 
Florida self-described, proud 

854
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:48,000
boys organizer Zachary real 
president from that chapter in 

855
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,000
Philadelphia and Dominic pasola.
A proud boys member from 

856
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,300
Rochester, New York, pretty 
diverse group of people, 

857
00:40:54,300 --> 00:40:58,100
literally east to west coast. 
Some of those names are Italian 

858
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,000
clearly, some of those names 
unknown ethnic origin. 

859
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,700
Some of them. 
Hispanic, let's just here you 

860
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,600
go. 
So this is what they said. 

861
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,100
Well, what are the charges of 
seditious conspiracy. 

862
00:41:07,100 --> 00:41:12,300
I think this is, this is so 
telling the AP said this, They 

863
00:41:12,300 --> 00:41:14,500
said this right here, what is 
seditious conspiracy? 

864
00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:20,000
The seditious conspiracy law was
enacted after the Civil War in 

865
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,400
1865 on the Civil War, in order 
to arrest Southerners who might 

866
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:32,400
keep fighting the US government,
that seems unrelated in all 

867
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:35,400
forms the original version of 
this law was going after people 

868
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,100
who would legitimately raised 
arms against the federal 

869
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:39,800
government. 
And that's the context that we 

870
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:41,900
have to consider seditious 
conspiracy. 

871
00:41:41,900 --> 00:41:44,500
They're also going to cover some
of the things that that went on 

872
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,500
with the seditious conspiracy 
and when they was actually 

873
00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:48,400
successful. 
So, this is actually a great 

874
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,000
historical perspective, but I 
don't think it says, what the AP

875
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,400
thinks. 
It says, I'm going to switch 

876
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,800
back over to the folk, a 
seditious conspiracy events have

877
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,300
been rare in recent history, and
the charge can be difficult to 

878
00:41:58,300 --> 00:42:00,900
prove, especially in cases. 
Is when an alleged plot is 

879
00:42:00,900 --> 00:42:05,100
unsuccessful, January 6th for 
whatever it was. 

880
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:07,900
I don't even think you can make 
a strong argument that it was a 

881
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,900
plot although they have. 
And the reason why they're 

882
00:42:10,900 --> 00:42:12,600
difficult to prove is because 
the burden is supposed to be 

883
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,600
pretty high. 
And the burden is actually 

884
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,800
supposed to be Beyond a 
reasonable doubt that no one 

885
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,200
would believe otherwise, and if 
there's no one, that would 

886
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,700
believe otherwise, the only 
place you're going to find 

887
00:42:22,700 --> 00:42:25,000
people that are going to vote. 
This way is in the District of 

888
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,100
Columbia, where they are holding
these trials, where 95% of the 

889
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:29,500
people are completely 
brainwashed. 

890
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:33,600
And they are 100% committed to 
the federal, government's 

891
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,400
narrative, because they rely on 
the federal government for their

892
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,900
existence, the entire District 
of Columbia. 

893
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:42,000
I cannot imagine wanting to live
there and thinking it was a good

894
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,800
idea. 
These people are living in a 

895
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:49,400
place where it is. 
It is there's just no 

896
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,900
possibility for that. 
Place to thrive without the 

897
00:42:51,908 --> 00:42:54,500
federal government just sitting 
there and all the property 

898
00:42:54,500 --> 00:42:56,300
values around there in Northern 
Virginia. 

899
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:58,800
And in the, the different parts 
of Maryland, like, Montgomery 

900
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,900
County. 
They're all inflated. 

901
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:02,800
And they're only there, because 
people have jobs working for the

902
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,600
federal government, they have 
to, they have to get behind the 

903
00:43:07,607 --> 00:43:10,100
federal government narrative. 
And that's why they've said, 95%

904
00:43:10,100 --> 00:43:11,700
of the people are registered 
Democrats there. 

905
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800
This is the most one-sided place
you could prosecute anybody. 

906
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,500
And honestly, anywhere outside 
of their will talk about a quick

907
00:43:17,500 --> 00:43:19,600
story before. 
Before we end about something 

908
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,700
that went on in Montgomery, 
County, which is obviously a 

909
00:43:21,707 --> 00:43:24,800
suburb of DC. 
I used to live in Fairfax County

910
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,500
which is a suburb of DC. 
All of that Northern Virginia 

911
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,400
Corridor they're a little bit 
more freedom minded. 

912
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,500
Once you start getting further 
out into the country you start 

913
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:35,000
realizing the more space you 
have between neighbors, the more

914
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,400
people start caring about 
individualism but it is really a

915
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,600
gross and bizarre and totally 
unified section, which is why 

916
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,700
eastern district of Virginia, is
one of the softest seats to 

917
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,800
charge anything for the federal 
government. 

918
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,000
They know they're going to have 
friendly. 

919
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,000
Is they do the same thing in the
District of Washington DC which 

920
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:53,500
is another very friendly 
district. 

921
00:43:53,500 --> 00:43:57,000
And, you know, I couldn't even 
get a gun charge charged, we 

922
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,200
couldn't even get somebody who 
admitted to owning a firearm. 

923
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,400
Who'd been a felon in, you know,
in possession and convicted, 

924
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,400
going back to the 1980s on a 
lawful search warrant where he 

925
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:09,300
went in and the guy admitted to 
owning a weapon or to having a 

926
00:44:09,308 --> 00:44:10,800
weapon. 
In fact, they were two weapons 

927
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,100
and they were locked and loaded 
next to his bed which I'm not 

928
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:15,200
mad at the guy for having as an 
American. 

929
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,700
But look, you're a prohibited 
person and that's pretty 

930
00:44:17,700 --> 00:44:19,300
straightforward. 
Forward violations of federal 

931
00:44:19,300 --> 00:44:22,300
law plus you were helping with a
PCP ring and they couldn't 

932
00:44:22,300 --> 00:44:24,300
charge this thing and went on 
for over two years. 

933
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:26,900
They talked about actually 
flying me out from New Mexico. 

934
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:29,700
It was my first day on the job 
that I did that search warrant. 

935
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,800
So six years later they were 
still wondering if they were 

936
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:34,400
even going to be able to move 
forward with charges. 

937
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,200
And as far as I know they 
dropped it. 

938
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,200
I don't think I'm going to get a
subpoena for me to come and 

939
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,500
speak although I'd be happy to 
if necessary. 

940
00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,500
But the fact the matter is is 
that is a very soft seat for you

941
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:45,500
to real crime. 
And then these political 

942
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:48,700
prosecutions, very easy. 
Let's let's Roll a little bit 

943
00:44:48,700 --> 00:44:51,400
deeper into this thing. 
I want to talk about past cases 

944
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:55,200
of seditious conspiracy because 
the elements of this particular 

945
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,000
crime, we talked about what they
look like. 

946
00:44:57,100 --> 00:44:59,800
I don't think they can meet this
stuff but moreover let's talk 

947
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,500
about where it's been used 
before, because that's what's 

948
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,900
called precedent, right? 
So before the trials, are they 

949
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:07,200
talked about? 
They've had convictions of The 

950
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,400
Oath Keepers like Stewart Rhodes
and this guy named eggs. 

951
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,900
Also, they were the first 
seditious conspiracy verdicts in

952
00:45:12,900 --> 00:45:15,800
decades, the last time they 
tried to do. 

953
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:20,700
One was a militia group that was
in 2010 that was unsuccessful. 

954
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,100
It says a judge ordered 
acquittals in the seditious 

955
00:45:24,100 --> 00:45:27,500
conspiracy charges in a 2012 
trial saying the prosecutors 

956
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:31,000
relied on, too much hateful 
diatribe, protected by the First

957
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,200
Amendment. 
Oh, how about our freedom to 

958
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,600
assemble and petition? 
The government for redress that 

959
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:38,700
seems like it's in the First 
Amendment and it didn't prove as

960
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:42,600
required, the accused ever had a
planned, a detailed plan for a 

961
00:45:42,607 --> 00:45:46,600
rebellion. 
This is the crazy part because I

962
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,700
think the left has a Plan for 
the Rebellion for the 

963
00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:52,500
Insurrection for the seditious 
conspiracy to undermine the 

964
00:45:52,508 --> 00:45:53,900
United States. 
I think it's there. 

965
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
We're seeing it in real time. 
They subjected us to the 

966
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:58,500
mainstream media's narrative. 
They've been doing the Donald 

967
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,900
Trump bad thing. 
We've seen guys like Mike 

968
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:03,400
Morell, who's the former CIA 
director going to John Brennan, 

969
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,200
another CIA director and getting
all these dudes to sign on 

970
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:10,700
saying that the hunter Biden 
laptop case was what all the 

971
00:46:10,700 --> 00:46:12,300
Hallmarks of Russian 
disinformation. 

972
00:46:12,300 --> 00:46:14,700
When in fact they just were 
doing talking points and the an 

973
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:18,200
email that just the news put 
out, shows us Us. 

974
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:22,800
In fact, that it was, it was a 
talking point literally to help 

975
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,300
the Biden campaign as they went 
into the debate stage against 

976
00:46:25,300 --> 00:46:27,500
Trump. 
So they had something they could

977
00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:29,200
say. 
And then he said, 100%, I'm on 

978
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,900
board. 
I was on John Solomon, show last

979
00:46:31,900 --> 00:46:33,600
night, talking about this. 
And he said, what do you think 

980
00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,000
about this? 
This email going out there and I

981
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,300
said there's a famous quote from
George Carlin. 

982
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:42,000
Many of you will remember it. 
And the quote says this, it's a 

983
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,400
big club and you ain't in it. 
And if I could do the George 

984
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,400
Carlin voice, I would do it. 
But that's what he says. 

985
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:51,300
And it's a Under percent true, 
you're trying to tell me that 

986
00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,700
these people who had no actual 
plan to overthrow the 

987
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:57,100
government, they actually wanted
to implement something they 

988
00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,100
thought was going to be 
accessible under federal law. 

989
00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:02,400
Which was that they were going 
to try to use the United States 

990
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,700
government's, you know, delay 
tactics, and so on and they 

991
00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,300
wanted to go in and just scream 
about it and and get Mike Pence 

992
00:47:07,300 --> 00:47:09,300
to do something. 
You know, did people say stupid 

993
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:10,600
things? 
Of course people, the more you 

994
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,200
get them together the Dumber, 
they are but pretty ridiculous. 

995
00:47:14,900 --> 00:47:18,700
And then in this particular case
against this this Cutter re 

996
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:22,000
militia they said that these 
guys were just they couldn't 

997
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,900
prove that these guys are doing 
more than just talking and they 

998
00:47:23,900 --> 00:47:25,500
were actively planning to oppose
the government. 

999
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:28,100
Look, the guys from the proud 
boys, the guys from The Oath 

1000
00:47:28,100 --> 00:47:30,100
Keepers, some of them brought 
weapons and then what do they 

1001
00:47:30,107 --> 00:47:32,800
do? 
They left them in Virginia 

1002
00:47:32,900 --> 00:47:35,000
because they didn't want to 
disobey the law. 

1003
00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:38,800
In Washington DC, which by the 
way, is a terrible place to be. 

1004
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:41,900
That bothers me. 
That bothers me an awful lot. 

1005
00:47:41,900 --> 00:47:43,300
I'm gonna tell you some of the 
other plots on here. 

1006
00:47:43,300 --> 00:47:45,600
If you see me looking over, I'm 
just going to be reading from 

1007
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,800
this from this article, it's 
just says last the successful 

1008
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,900
prosecution that they had for a 
seditious conspiracy trial was 

1009
00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,900
in 1995. 
It was against the so-called 

1010
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:57,700
blind Sheikh. 
This was Sheikh, Omar Abdel, 

1011
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:02,100
rehim what's-his-name Ramen, 
sorry, abdelrahman had nine 

1012
00:48:02,100 --> 00:48:03,700
followers. 
They were convicted in a plot to

1013
00:48:03,700 --> 00:48:05,700
blow up the United States Nation
or the night. 

1014
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:08,400
You Nations building an FBI 
building in New York, two 

1015
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:11,000
tunnels and a bridge linking New
York and New Jersey. 

1016
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,600
That's a real serious plan and 
it involves explosives. 

1017
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,800
And involves trying to take down
a piece of government and it 

1018
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,400
involves trying to take out 
national leaders from all over 

1019
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:22,000
the world international leaders 
of small nationalities. 

1020
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,000
That's a big, that's a big thing
and this guy was an Islamic 

1021
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,400
terrorists and that's what he 
wanted to do. 

1022
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,000
So he tried to say that. 
He didn't actually plan the 

1023
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,300
attack that his rhetoric was 
protected by free speech. 

1024
00:48:32,300 --> 00:48:37,200
He died in federal prison. 
Okay, I'm always very, very 

1025
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,900
cautious of the idea of 
pre-crime, but I'm really, 

1026
00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:42,400
really cautious of when it 
involves things where there's no

1027
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,100
weapons involved. 
And we're going to be talking 

1028
00:48:44,100 --> 00:48:46,100
about trying to overthrow the 
United States government, which 

1029
00:48:46,100 --> 00:48:49,500
has 51 percent of the military 
spending for the entire world. 

1030
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:52,000
That seems like a difficult 
thing for you to make an 

1031
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,300
argument of. 
There's another one they talked 

1032
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:58,200
about how there was a sisters 
conspiracy charge people who 

1033
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:02,700
stormed the capital building in 
1954 for Puerto report for 

1034
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:05,000
pro-independence. 
Puerto An activist rushed on the

1035
00:49:05,008 --> 00:49:07,400
building and opened fire on the 
house floor. 

1036
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:12,000
Wounding several Representatives
so that took place. 

1037
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:15,200
There was also another former 
Puerto Rican Independence group,

1038
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,800
that orchestrated the bombing 
campaign that left dozens of 

1039
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,000
people dead or maimed in New 
York, Chicago Washington and 

1040
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:25,200
Puerto Rico in the 70s and 80s, 
spent 35 years in jail, makes 

1041
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,000
sense. 
And then here's the seditious 

1042
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,500
conspiracy. 
His sentence was commuted in 

1043
00:49:30,500 --> 00:49:34,600
2017. 
By Barack Obama at the end of 

1044
00:49:34,607 --> 00:49:36,300
his term. 
So that's interesting. 

1045
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:39,200
Why did he get a pass? 
Now he served 35 years in 

1046
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,600
prison. 
So that's no, no, that's no easy

1047
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,500
stretch by any means. 
But why was that guy? 

1048
00:49:42,500 --> 00:49:45,200
Let out? 
And in many ways, the seditious 

1049
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,800
conspiracy has been going on for
a long, long time. 

1050
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:50,000
It's the Marxist takeover of our
institutions. 

1051
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:55,000
It is the leftist agenda that is
being pushed in our schools, and

1052
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,000
in our mainstream media, and in 
public discourse, and the 

1053
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,400
overwhelming Overton window 
movement to the left. 

1054
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:01,800
It has been going on for a 
while. 

1055
00:50:01,900 --> 00:50:07,800
While a very long while, I'm 
going to pull up a piece here, 

1056
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:09,300
this is an opinion piece and 
this is how you get. 

1057
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:10,900
This is how you end up in these 
spots, right? 

1058
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:13,600
This is the opinion piece. 
This is coming from, I guess, 

1059
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:17,500
yesterday, opinion piece, by 
Eugene Robinson, this is in the 

1060
00:50:17,508 --> 00:50:20,000
Washington Post like I said, 
this is a rage Fest so just get 

1061
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,000
it. 
Going the proud boys, jury got 

1062
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,200
it right on January 6, seditious
conspiracy charges. 

1063
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,400
I don't know what Eugene 
Robinson's background is and I'm

1064
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:28,500
not going to look into it right 
now. 

1065
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,500
But he says, the Insurrection at
the US Capitol We already talked

1066
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,800
about this definition of 
insurrection and it is, in fact,

1067
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,000
a lighter charge than seditious 
conspiracy was not legitimate 

1068
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,100
political discourse as the 
Republican Party, officially 

1069
00:50:41,100 --> 00:50:43,000
wants you to believe and then he
has a hyperlinked where they 

1070
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,600
officially want you to have that
position. 

1071
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:47,300
If you notice, the Republican 
party has run away from the Jay 

1072
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:49,000
Sixers. 
So I don't know about all that. 

1073
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:52,000
All right. 
So, it was a violent criminal 

1074
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:53,900
conspiracy against our 
democracy, blah, blah, blah, 

1075
00:50:53,900 --> 00:50:55,100
blah. 
Was it though? 

1076
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,800
Like conspiracy is such as such 
a week. 

1077
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:01,400
It's such a weak idea. 
Like if it didn't you can, I 

1078
00:51:01,408 --> 00:51:02,900
don't know. 
Oh, that you can actually prove 

1079
00:51:02,900 --> 00:51:06,100
outside of DC with normal people
looking at the evidence that 

1080
00:51:06,100 --> 00:51:08,400
there was all this coordination,
and that they were actually 

1081
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,000
going to try to do something 
that they were planning on 

1082
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,500
violence per se. 
I think things got violent and 

1083
00:51:12,500 --> 00:51:14,000
they show this picture. 
I'm all this tear gas, which I 

1084
00:51:14,008 --> 00:51:17,000
don't think the crowd brought 
the tear grass tear gas rather 

1085
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,200
into the into the capitol. 
So, you're seeing all these 

1086
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,100
people on the Washington Post 
steps. 

1087
00:51:21,300 --> 00:51:25,100
The the video here, correction 
the the photograph, they are 

1088
00:51:25,100 --> 00:51:27,500
insurrectionists loyal to then 
President Trump storming the 

1089
00:51:27,508 --> 00:51:30,800
capital's with the the AP 
photograph says they're just all

1090
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:34,100
in bed on this thing and Said 
that is that is such projection.

1091
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,300
To me, four members of the 
group, including Henry, Andre 

1092
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:39,600
kataria because of course, he's 
not actually in re kataria the 

1093
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,100
trying to distance him from it, 
like, you know, his Hispanic 

1094
00:51:42,100 --> 00:51:44,400
name because it's fake clearly, 
even though he's Cuban 

1095
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,500
conditions of, you know, they 
were convicted of seditious 

1096
00:51:47,500 --> 00:51:50,600
conspiracy on Thursday. 
So that's yesterday, previous 

1097
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,900
trials, six members, and other 
right-wing group, at least they 

1098
00:51:52,900 --> 00:51:54,100
didn't say far, why? 
Right wing? 

1099
00:51:54,300 --> 00:51:57,400
Also conduct convicted, the same
things they face up to 20 years 

1100
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,900
in prison. 
That means three different sets 

1101
00:51:59,900 --> 00:52:01,700
of jurors have concluded that 
January. 

1102
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,500
It was no spontaneous Riot. 
It was planned organized inside 

1103
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,100
it and led by individuals and 
groups. 

1104
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,000
In a conspiracy against our 
democratically elected 

1105
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:13,900
government, under what they 
wanted to use the terms of our 

1106
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,900
legislation that exists, our 
constitution to trigger what 

1107
00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:19,000
they thought was going to be an 
event. 

1108
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,400
That would overturn an election 
that they felt was falsely. 

1109
00:52:21,900 --> 00:52:24,900
Falsely maintain really, really 
bizarre stuff. 

1110
00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:26,700
Anyway you can read this whole 
article if you want go to the 

1111
00:52:26,707 --> 00:52:29,600
Washington Post seek out 
parabolas jury, they're actually

1112
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:31,000
allowing this to be read by 
anybody. 

1113
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,300
There's no pay wall. 
Far as I can sell and not the 

1114
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:35,900
one of their biggest pieces is 
the, obviously they need Trump. 

1115
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000
They need Trump to be crushed. 
I'm not the hugest Trump fan in 

1116
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:40,500
the world. 
I'll give the guy credit where 

1117
00:52:40,500 --> 00:52:44,100
it is due and I can also say a 
spade, a spade, Trump did not 

1118
00:52:44,100 --> 00:52:47,200
incite anything that caused 
danger, like you can listen to 

1119
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,800
the words. 
He said the guy's a politician. 

1120
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,500
He says words like this, you 
know, Maxine Waters has had far 

1121
00:52:51,500 --> 00:52:53,300
worse. 
Nancy Pelosi has said far worse 

1122
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,500
and so he tweeted out our this 
is the Tweet. 

1123
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:57,600
Here it is. 
We got him big protest in d.c. 

1124
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,000
on January 6. 
Be there will be wild. 

1125
00:53:00,500 --> 00:53:04,900
Yeah, Everybody knew everybody 
knew it was going to be wild. 

1126
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:06,600
Those of us who work in the 
federal government knew. 

1127
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:08,700
It was a bad idea to show up and
it didn't stop some people from 

1128
00:53:08,700 --> 00:53:11,000
doing it anyway and some careers
were lost and we're going to 

1129
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,300
have somebody on the show at 
some point who showed up because

1130
00:53:13,300 --> 00:53:16,500
he was interested, didn't do 
anything wrong because he was 

1131
00:53:16,500 --> 00:53:18,200
interested in showing up in 
hearing what was going on. 

1132
00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:21,700
It was a it was a major event 
that you're allowed to to go to 

1133
00:53:21,700 --> 00:53:24,700
accept. 
It was on the right and unlike 

1134
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:27,600
the riots that happened, six 
months, eight months earlier 

1135
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,700
throughout all 2020, we are 
watching it happen in all these 

1136
00:53:30,700 --> 00:53:31,700
states. 
You can't get away with it. 

1137
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,200
Because you're on the right, 
pretty gross, pretty difficult 

1138
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:37,700
to be part of pretty difficult 
to see as mentioned. 

1139
00:53:37,700 --> 00:53:39,900
I want to bring up this this 
sort of. 

1140
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,900
Where does this all go? 
There is an article which I 

1141
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:43,900
obviously didn't even pull up 
here. 

1142
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:45,400
So give me two seconds. 
I'll pull this thing out. 

1143
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,100
There's an article from from 
Mike. 

1144
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:50,900
Flynn is an opinion piece. 
There it is. 

1145
00:53:51,500 --> 00:53:55,600
All right, so this is General, 
Flynn's websites, General 

1146
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,200
flynn.com and you can go there. 
It's written by General Flynn 

1147
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,700
Michael T, Flynn, the retired 
lieutenant general. 

1148
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:07,600
General of the army and I think 
this is a really Bleak but I 

1149
00:54:07,607 --> 00:54:10,100
don't think he's wrong. 
So let's talk this out where I 

1150
00:54:10,107 --> 00:54:11,700
was going to run out time for 
some of the things that I wanted

1151
00:54:11,700 --> 00:54:13,100
to do. 
But we'll we'll cover all the 

1152
00:54:13,100 --> 00:54:14,200
stuff. 
A lot of stuff is not 

1153
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:15,800
time-based. 
So we can talk about any time 

1154
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:18,700
says, we're not going to win 
2024 but the governor's can 

1155
00:54:18,700 --> 00:54:22,700
change everything that seems 
pretty dark. 

1156
00:54:23,300 --> 00:54:26,700
He said, have we lost America to
a Marxist communist movement? 

1157
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:29,300
Are we in an unrecoverable? 
Tailspin towards our nation's 

1158
00:54:29,300 --> 00:54:31,200
demise. 
I've asked these questions 

1159
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:35,100
because American left and the 
Marxist left has so corrupted 

1160
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:38,500
America and its election system 
that it appears no Republican 

1161
00:54:38,500 --> 00:54:42,100
candidate can win in 2024 there.
I said it it won't happen. 

1162
00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:45,000
Instead, these next two years 
will not simply be the same as 

1163
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,300
the past two. 
They will be far worse. 

1164
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:48,900
This is the seditious 
conspiracy. 

1165
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:51,600
I think General Flynn has a lot 
of things that are on the edge 

1166
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:54,400
of he's willing to say things 
that many people feel in the 

1167
00:54:54,408 --> 00:54:56,900
National Security space. 
The guy obviously spent a lot of

1168
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:59,700
time around this sort of 
information and he knows what 

1169
00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:01,600
he's talking about in many ways.
So let's talk about it. 

1170
00:55:01,700 --> 00:55:04,400
I said, indeed, Obama while 
hiding his maximum marks his 

1171
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,600
backgrounds and aspirations as 
put time and effort into 

1172
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:08,600
transforming America by 
infiltrating, the federal 

1173
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,400
government with thousands of 
socialist ideologues and 

1174
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:13,300
implementing programs and 
regulations that Target. 

1175
00:55:13,300 --> 00:55:15,400
The foundations of America's 
greatness is free enterprise 

1176
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:16,700
system. 
The first and the Second 

1177
00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:19,900
Amendment the family unit free 
and fair elections and the rule 

1178
00:55:19,900 --> 00:55:23,200
of law. 
I agree with all of that, it's 

1179
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,700
very unfortunate. 
I wanted Barack Obama to be the 

1180
00:55:25,700 --> 00:55:28,800
person that he said he was going
to be in 2007 and 2008. 

1181
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:31,600
I really did. 
It would have been fine. 

1182
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Young enough that it didn't 
matter. 

1183
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:34,500
You know, I don't even know if I
voted. 

1184
00:55:34,500 --> 00:55:35,900
I don't think I was in a place 
where it would have mattered. 

1185
00:55:35,900 --> 00:55:37,400
I think in 2008, I was living in
California. 

1186
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,100
So who cares? 
How I voted? 

1187
00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,200
But I don't think I even was 
registered. 

1188
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,000
I think I was right in the 
process of moving from one state

1189
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:45,700
to another, and I don't know if 
I was registered to vote and it 

1190
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,400
didn't matter, because in 
California was going to go for 

1191
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,500
Obama either way, right? 
And the day, look at what he 

1192
00:55:51,508 --> 00:55:54,400
did. 
He turned racial relations back 

1193
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,100
decades. 
I grew up in California in 

1194
00:55:58,100 --> 00:56:00,000
places where we didn't even know
anything about race. 

1195
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,400
When I moved to Texas like the 
idea of race Chisholm was so 

1196
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,200
weird to me, I'd never heard of 
it. 

1197
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:06,600
I never even thought of it and 
it is like front of mine 

1198
00:56:06,600 --> 00:56:08,000
awareness for people everywhere 
you go. 

1199
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:10,500
Now it's the one thing that we 
all have to try to avoid 

1200
00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:12,600
actually Dan body knows podcast 
yesterday morning. 

1201
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:14,500
When I was listening, I mowed 
the lawn and I listened to it 

1202
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:16,700
and he's talking about how it's 
one of the nastiest things you 

1203
00:56:16,700 --> 00:56:19,100
can say about someone because 
not only does it say that you're

1204
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:22,000
a lousy human being and bigoted.
What It also says about you is 

1205
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:24,700
that you're stupid because 
you're not willing to examine 

1206
00:56:24,700 --> 00:56:27,100
your conscience, and examine 
other people's positions, and 

1207
00:56:27,100 --> 00:56:29,800
find out that hey, we're all the
same in many ways, we're all the

1208
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:32,800
same as human beings. 
I agree. 

1209
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:36,400
Yeah, racism is a terrible thing
to say and in the meantime 

1210
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,100
that's what Obama's Legacy is to
me. 

1211
00:56:39,100 --> 00:56:41,400
It's what brought back and they 
were people who had life-sized 

1212
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,100
cutouts of Barack Obama in FBI 
field offices. 

1213
00:56:44,100 --> 00:56:47,700
That's how infiltrated that 
ideology went down really, 

1214
00:56:47,700 --> 00:56:51,000
bizarre, really strange. 
All right, so the Marxist. 

1215
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,500
Sorry folks, I lost what was 
going on in the the chat here 

1216
00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,500
I'll try to keep up in a second 
here, but end of the day it's 

1217
00:56:55,500 --> 00:56:57,500
like the Marxist based goals of 
now resulted in damage to 

1218
00:56:57,500 --> 00:56:59,600
America, that is doubtful, we'll
ever be able to recover the 

1219
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,800
freedoms and Liberty. 
Our founding fathers has 

1220
00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:03,700
bestowed upon us. 
General Flynn seems to be 

1221
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,300
correct. 
Number one, we no longer have 

1222
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:07,300
free and fair elections. 
You guys can read this yourself.

1223
00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:08,700
If you want to go to his web 
page, by the way. 

1224
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:11,000
Number two, we don't have a 
supreme court that cares about 

1225
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,300
election fraud. 
We also don't have an FBI or 

1226
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:15,800
federal law enforcement agency 
that is willing to investigate 

1227
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:17,400
it. 
I know that for a fact, it did 

1228
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:19,400
not happen. 
They did not do their job, they 

1229
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,400
were either told to stand down 
or they chose to stand down but 

1230
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,000
the FBI did not do election 
fraud investigations in a 

1231
00:57:25,008 --> 00:57:28,100
meaningful way and the people 
who wanted to do it got removed 

1232
00:57:28,300 --> 00:57:30,100
because they might be filthy 
Trump supporter because they 

1233
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:31,600
didn't go get the covid-19 
shots. 

1234
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,600
Put that in your pipe and smoke 
it. 

1235
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:36,400
We could talk about it another 
time to, we have awesome. 

1236
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,000
This is one of the few things 
that gets me really hot. 

1237
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,800
When you start thinking about 
the malfeasance there 3, we have

1238
00:57:40,808 --> 00:57:43,700
allowed intelligence agencies to
work with one party to help 

1239
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:46,300
deliver an election to its 
candidate by literally 

1240
00:57:46,300 --> 00:57:47,700
suppressing. 
The freedom of speech of 

1241
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:50,300
countless Americans and those 
agencies have suffered, no 

1242
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:54,800
consequences, 100%, 100% endorse
that statement that is factual 

1243
00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:56,900
and you can see it through the 
Twitter files and you can see it

1244
00:57:56,900 --> 00:57:59,400
through the lived experience of 
the suspended oils, my buddies 

1245
00:57:59,400 --> 00:58:01,500
who have been trying to get 
through the stuff for the 

1246
00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:03,000
present. 
Hi States has been severely 

1247
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,600
compromised by our leading 
adversary and not even the GOP 

1248
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,700
will hold them accountable 
fact-check true. 

1249
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:11,800
Clearly number five, we have 
allowed the weaponization of the

1250
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:13,900
federal government to a degree. 
Our founding fathers, would not 

1251
00:58:13,900 --> 00:58:16,700
recognize they are rolling in 
their grades, as the meme, says 

1252
00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,400
George Washington. 
He said, me and my homies would 

1253
00:58:18,408 --> 00:58:21,500
have been stacking bodies by. 
Now that is a factual statement.

1254
00:58:21,500 --> 00:58:24,700
To, I know we're ending here on 
a run, I want you to check out 

1255
00:58:24,700 --> 00:58:26,400
this article and see what you 
think. 

1256
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:29,200
There's no upside to this stuff 
other than it can be done 

1257
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,200
locally. 
He talks about the solution. 

1258
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:32,900
We may have to Till another day 
to do that. 

1259
00:58:32,900 --> 00:58:35,200
In fact, I'm a record a second 
podcast and make this come out 

1260
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,100
Monday. 
Folks, you've been listening to 

1261
00:58:37,100 --> 00:58:39,000
Kyle Surf and show. 
Like I said, running out of time

1262
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:40,500
so I want to just wrap this 
sucker up. 

1263
00:58:40,500 --> 00:58:46,200
I will be on Tim cast on Monday 
on Monday evening, Tim cast, IRL

1264
00:58:46,300 --> 00:58:49,800
in real life doing it live 
flying to DC. 

1265
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,600
So my federal Air Marshal 
friends that are going to be 

1266
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,700
following me. 
Feel free to check in. 

1267
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:56,500
I'll see you on the way to 
Dulles from Austin Texas. 

1268
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:59,300
I'm having to fly out of the 
closest big airport near me and 

1269
00:58:59,500 --> 00:59:01,500
that's the closest one. 
So I'll see you all on the 

1270
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:03,300
plane. 
Lane and for those you who want 

1271
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:04,600
to join me on the web. 
You can see me there. 

1272
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,200
Monday show may not be live. 
We may have to tape it and do a 

1273
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,000
tape delay and then I'll be back
live again on Wednesday next 

1274
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,800
week. 
If you like what you hear in, 

1275
00:59:11,800 --> 00:59:15,300
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you can get the notifications 

1276
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:17,300
turn those things on. 
If you want to join us for the 

1277
00:59:17,300 --> 00:59:22,600
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8:30 Texas America you can check

1278
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:25,500
out at all the people in the 
chat out here from jigsaw Derek 

1279
00:59:25,700 --> 00:59:27,300
I see. 
So Neil boss goes in there. 

1280
00:59:27,300 --> 00:59:28,900
Thanks buddy, thanks for joining
us. 

1281
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:33,500
I got dull old leather, All that
leather stocking fan. 

1282
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:36,400
That's an interesting scary one 
and Sharon black from uncover, 

1283
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:38,800
d.c. who's been really great and
motivating, you all thanks for 

1284
00:59:38,808 --> 00:59:40,200
keeping this going. 
If you guys like what you hear 

1285
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,000
by the mean you know drop a like
on there give me a thumbs up, 

1286
00:59:43,400 --> 00:59:45,800
put a comment in. 
If you like I'll respond to a 

1287
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,700
whole bunch of them and I'm 
going to read one of the five 

1288
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:49,100
star reviews. 
If you're listening on the Apple

1289
00:59:49,100 --> 00:59:51,400
podcast, or if you listen on 
Spotify you can leave us a 

1290
00:59:51,408 --> 00:59:53,300
review there and I will read 
some of them on the show. 

1291
00:59:53,500 --> 00:59:56,300
Here's what we got from Jim from
South Jersey. 

1292
00:59:56,300 --> 00:59:59,600
He said I would give Kyle 10 
Stars if possible. 

1293
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:01,800
Thanks Jim that's nice. 
Heard him on The Dan bonds. 

1294
01:00:01,900 --> 01:00:04,900
You know, show and started to 
follow his podcast, Superior 

1295
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:06,700
content, best of luck and God 
bless. 

1296
01:00:06,700 --> 01:00:09,700
Well, God bless you Jim. 
Thank you for leaving us a 

1297
01:00:09,700 --> 01:00:12,100
fantastic review. 
Like so many others. 

1298
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:15,100
We are up to over four hundred 
and fifteen five star reviews in

1299
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:17,500
only about four months here. 
We're on our fifth month. 

1300
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,700
As a podcast, is kind of 
unprecedented in a lot of 

1301
01:00:19,707 --> 01:00:21,700
places. 
People, keep telling me they 

1302
01:00:21,700 --> 01:00:23,400
love what they hear. 
We're going to keep doing it, 

1303
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,100
we're going to keep covering 
these things long form and I 

1304
01:00:26,100 --> 01:00:28,200
hope that you take this ride 
with us. 

1305
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:31,200
You join us on the way when you 
have a great weekend. 

1306
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,200
We'll see you back. 
On Monday, probably a tape show.

1307
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,300
Join me for Tim cast and lets 
him. 

1308
01:00:35,300 --> 01:00:37,800
You know what you're like the 
guess that he's bring it on and 

1309
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,100
I'll See You Again live on 
Wednesday. 

1310
01:00:39,100 --> 01:00:45,000
Folks have a safe weekend. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

1311
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,400
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