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All interviewers have their own 
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get to the point and to be 
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And the key to interviewing is 
listening. 

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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower and 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serafi. 
Well. 

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Hello my friends and welcome to 
our Sunday sit down. 

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Today is going to be Part 2 of 
our interview with Tim Kennedy. 

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And while the first part of it 
was a little bit awkward because

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he was sitting in a vehicle with
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the Texas heat, we found out 
that he was only about 12 

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minutes down the road from where
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And so he decided to come and 
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in person. 
And there's something to be said

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about an in person interview. 
It's a little bit different. 

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Today is going to be. 
Kind of fun. 

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It's less of an interview and 
maybe more of a discussion 

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because Tim and I do not hold 
the same views about what's 

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going on in the Trump 
administration and some of the 

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folks that are out there doing 
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I think that we both agree that 
there are wins. 

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I think we agree a lot on 
principles, but we disagree 

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about how to get it done. 
So you're going to hear some of 

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that. 
I think it's polite push back 

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and I hope that's interesting to
you guys. 

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I think we should all be able to
defend our positions. 

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We should do it respectfully. 
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be able to walk away and shake 
hands as friends or take a hug 

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and send somebody out the door 
and thank them for coming along.

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So that's what today's program 
is about. 

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Both of us have an affiliation 
with the folks over at My 

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Patriot Supply and they're the 
ones that bring you today's 

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Sunday. 
Sit down again. 

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Part 2 of our Tim Kennedy little
experience here. 

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We'll just bring it up, right? 
Now there it is. 

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It's mypatriotsupply.com/kyle. 
Right now. 

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They're doing deals on the grid.
Doctor 3300 solar generator. 

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I'm about to get one of these in
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Because probably you guys know 
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Power tends to go out right when
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I do not want that to happen for

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So whether it's a heat wave or a

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thunderstorm, whether it are, 
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live in California, God forbid, 
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It's an absolute beast with 3300
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It can keep a fridge, freezer, 
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you can plug it all in there and
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to. 
Right now they got a crazy deal 

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If you buy the Grid Doctor 3300,

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they're going to throw in two, 
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panels. 
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waterproof, built to handle 
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what else is coming your way. 
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with that grid doctor 3300. 
That was never a better time to 

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get serious about blackout 
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on where you are than it is 
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mypatriotsupply.com/kyle. 
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mypatriotsupply.com/kyle. 
There is a link in the show 

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description as well as all the 
things about Tim Kennedy if you 

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guys want to get that done and 
follow him. 

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And let's get into that 
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All right, I like it. 
We're in light and dark. 

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You're the first person to use 
that microphone, so be gentle 

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with her. 
I'm going to Deep Throat this, 

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let's just see if I'm what's up 
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Nice boobs, thanks. 
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All right, So fun story. 
My last partner in the FBI was 

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the fifth group guy who then got
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They're the only real group. 
I don't know if you know that. 

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Is that the answer? 
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to 1/5 like everybody else is 
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right. 
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Legion, if you are fifth group, 
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actually never had any real 
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So my buddy has the most 
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not say while we're recording, 
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And going through the Q course 
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From what I can tell, he had a 
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where apparently cadre was like 
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pranking me with this name? 
They. 

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Want. 
They want that he's just. 

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They they do, and thank God for 
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Yeah, super stud short. 
Tall, young, old, unique name. 

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You're just going to get 
brutalized. 

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Right. 
You can't be a Gray man if you 

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have a last name like he does, 
and a first name which no one's 

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ever heard before, but sounds 
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to you if you were running in 
like, let's say, wet shorts. 

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Oh, sick. 
It's not good. 

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No. 
And your last name sounds 

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something like a phallic device.
Yeah, you're in bad shape. 

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Thank you for the coffee. 
Yeah, my pleasure. 

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So these boots, I bought them 
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I went into a store, a little 
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Cruces. 
I'm doing FBI stuff. 

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I'm like, I'm on a res. 
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people know who I am. 
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I'm wearing boots every day 
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I'm from Texas. 
That's how we're gonna. 

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Roll Indian reservations break 
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There's the worst. 
Places in America and people 

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don't understand when we say the
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over America, you know, like go,
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see, see some real. 
Almost the same though in a lot 

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of ways. 
It's worse, it's worse. 

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It's the same problem. 
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But at a scale that I and per 
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the poverty level, the human 
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criminal activity, it's hopeless
to it's just so hard which. 

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You said something about was it 
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Is that, do you have a familiar?
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Lived near Rez at some point 
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Yeah, I had. 
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NM Oh, yeah, Yeah. 
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So like plenty of them I was. 
In Kirtland for two years. 

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Oh, there. 
Yeah, there you go. 

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That sadness everywhere. 
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Look, you guys like you guys do 
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people that we would do in 
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We're like, look, you're going 
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going to think you're hot shit 
because you're going through APJ

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training. 
You think you're a stud and 

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there's going to be a guy with 
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be just be waiting to take you 
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Will you please not act like a 
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Just be chill. 
Just remember, you're in the Air

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Force. 
I came, I came. 

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With that, Air Force just just. 
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boxing with my 10 year old and 
we had that exact same 

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conversation because he's like, 
yeah, I'm a boxer now. 

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I'm like, dude, you're 10 and 
and I'm like, can you fight? 

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He's like, yeah, I can fight. 
I'm like, no, no, you can't 

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fight. 
Like you just say that I cannot 

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fight. 
He's like, I know how like 123 

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like my jab crossed. 
I'm like, listen to me, you know

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nothing about fighting and 
you're going to think that you 

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do. 
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the world is somebody that 
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fighting, how to fight, and then
they fight somebody that can 

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actually fight. 
It's it's the Dunning Kruger 

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curve. 
Like you, you have some 

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familiarity, so suddenly you 
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you are the most dangerous 
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To yourself, Yeah. 
Thanks for having me over. 

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I'm glad I'm not sitting in a 
hot Ford F-150. 

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Dude, yeah, that that seemed 
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Could you see the sweat like 
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Looks like well, like the good 
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working out, so like you were 
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Core body temperature was going.
Then I'm in Texas and there was.

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No air conditioning running. 
No, I left it off 'cause I cared

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about audio. 
Which is why I digged it up. 

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It's. 
Perfect. 

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All right, we were going to get 
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I want to have a polite maybe 
disagreement. 

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And so I'll be, I want to mostly
hear your opinion. 

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I think my audience mostly knows
what I think. 

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I want to hear your opinion and 
I'm not going to push back on it

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specifically, but what I'll do 
is I'll, I'll introduce 

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questions to you if that's good 
with you 'cause I, I want to set

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kind of the parameters on it. 
I think that that's what we've 

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lost in this society is like, 
can we politely disagree about? 

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Things discourse is a is is a 
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Yeah, we need monopoly on single
feelings. 

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We need to have like our our 
opinions issued to us. 

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So you believed and I and we're 
actually kind of in a good spot.

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Did you see the the Fox and 
Friends interview that happened 

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this morning with Bongino? 
No, Great. 

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Did you see the Patel interview 
that went on with Bret Baier 

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last night? 
No. 

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Great. 
OK, so I'm going to give you 

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some of the stuff from it. 
I'm not. 

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And these are not gotchas. 
I just want to kind of like the 

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first thing that was brought up 
that that made me uncomfortable 

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is this ongoing discussion about
a new facility and the reason 

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why. 
And there's a guy named Mike 

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Howell over at the Oversight 
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It's like an extension of 
heritage. 

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They've highlighted that every 
FBI director has come in and 

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used the exact same words about 
a new FBI building. 

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And now Cash Patel is using 
those exact same words that we 

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heard Ray and comedy. 
And I'm sure if McCabe was asked

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about his same deal. 
And so these fall into this sort

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of like evidence to me that 
we're seeing the worst thing 

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that that that I actually warned
Cash about early, which is that 

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the FBI tries to run the 
director. 

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The director rarely gets to run 
the FBI. 

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And I, I agree with that. 
And that's a problem of a 

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system. 
And what we have is, and I this 

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this goes across the national 
intelligence committees, the 

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commissions, the director of 
National intelligence, she's 

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fighting systems and what you, 
you know, obviously president 

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gets elected overwhelmingly in 
November. 

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He then picks his cabinet. 
Those people go through the 1st 

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Crucible, which is confirmation.
And they at that point have to 

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start toeing a line. 
They take what were really 

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strong opinions and they have to
make compromises publicly about 

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to ultimately accumulate enough 
votes for them to get confirmed.

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And if you're saying I'm going 
to shut down the Hoover 

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building, you're not going to 
get confirmed. 

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Right. 
No, I took that as hyperbole. 

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And I think anybody who's 
thinking and saying a regular 

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person would hear that and go, 
the dude's not going to walk in 

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and shutter the place where 
several 1000 people work every 

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day. 
That's not reasonable. 

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Well, first of all, I voted. 
For that, I mean, I did too, 

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yeah. 
Like, but I but I voted for the 

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spirit of that. 
Maybe not the letter of that. 

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Is that fair? 
A. 100% So when you have this 

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tiny little percentage, less 
than 1% of these appointed now 

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confirmed people trying to fight
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positioned with way better 
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the vast majority of the levers 
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like how did they not have the 
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What they do have the authority,
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leverage. 
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don't have the attention span 
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you're going to for me, and I 
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like, OK, are you trying to tell
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responsible for what a base 
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the blank like in Omaha, NE? 
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the that's the equivalent of 
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Walmart greeter how to behave. 
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distance even between your high 
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For sure, time and distance and 
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like this is the mission. 
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everybody adds a little sauce to
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completely different. 
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they're supposed to be executing
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resources and abilities. 
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the I hate like saying swamp or,
but it really does exist. 

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it is in their best interest to 
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because that that conflict, that
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everything that they have and 
the money that they make and the

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influence that they have and the
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jeopardy. 
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it's, it's addictive. 
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So that's the thing that I think
is the most dangerous. 

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Yeah, it's that people, I would 
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you know, eating your own 
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call it. 
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and say these. 
People really like me. 

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Yeah. 
When they're really, actually 

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evil, they don't like anybody, 
they only like themselves. 

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And, and their power and their 
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Then how do we reconcile with 
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world investigations and current
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So we, we, we could pick almost 
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just release a file. 
Well, some of those things you 

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can't just do sure, the FBI has 
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instances to release certain 
things and some things they 

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can't. 
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investigation, like whether it's
a FOIA thing that they won't be 

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able to if they're it's going to
put individual Americans, their 

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information at risk, make them 
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investigation that's ongoing. 
And none of these are closed 

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cases. 
And I want to see people tarred 

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and feathered in the street that
had anything to do with Epstein 

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that anything to do with PDP 
Diddy that had anything to do 

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with January 6th. 
But how do you do that with rule

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of law? 
Because if, if we just say, OK, 

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fine, we're going to break the 
law and we're going to start 

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throwing information out there. 
We're going to start releasing 

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names, we're going to start 
releasing files. 

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What we're breaking law and 
precedent. 

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And now we're no better than 
what was. 

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We're just on the other side of 
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And we, and I, want us to be 
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first and foremost a 
constitutionalist. 

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Yeah, I, I have no disagreement 
with any of that. 

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In fact, I don't need to see 
files and I never have. 

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I, I mean, it's a touch button 
for people, I think on the right

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right now. 
It's like, where are the so, so 

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and so files? 
It's like, what are you going to

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do with them? 
Like I was, I was a criminal 

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investigator. 
I know that I'm not going to do 

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anything because people will 
send me stuff and they'll 

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probably send you stuff too. 
They're like, hey, Tim, you 

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know, investigate this. 
You're like with what resources?

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Like I have no database access. 
I don't have any sort of 

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authority to demand documents. 
I don't have the ability to like

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to research your claim or 
investigate your claim. 

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So I don't need. 
I do want the post like the the 

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court of public opinion. 
I want these people humiliated 

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forever. 
I want them to never have 

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another job in Hollywood again. 
I want them never to get another

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sponsorship. 
I never want them to like Manny.

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You touched a kid, you're done 
for forever, right? 

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But do. 
With an indictment for me, like 

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I don't need to see your name on
a list. 

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Yeah, well, that's fair too, 
but. 

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Listen, every indictment is 
going to eventually be unsealed.

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Like you know what? 
Happens to these people in 

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prisons, yeah. 
Yeah, they don't do well. 

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Yeah, I want that. 
I want that. 

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And on their way to that, I want
them to be politically 

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humiliated like they're, they're
so pretty, they're so 

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untouchable, you know, like 
they, they had how many 

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blockbuster hits Awesome. 
I it disgusts me. 

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Deal with the public humiliation
and then. 

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A drop from the feeling of I'm 
I'm on top of the world to being

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nowhere and then go and actually
find out what nowhere really 

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looks like. 
Where someone tells you your 

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every move you. 
Buried information about cocaine

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in the White House. 
Whoever was involved in that 

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needs to be held accountable. 
You know, whatever informants 

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were were part of the January 
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Like they need to be held 
accountable. 

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So here's where I'm going to. 
Here's where I'm going to 

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challenge you a little bit. 
I think one of the problems, I 

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think you, you're not ignorant 
to this problem. 

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I think the, the issue that 
exists is that you are now 

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dealing with a culture that 
wants to enforce the status quo,

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that needs to protect itself, 
right? 

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So that's DOJ wide, that's FBI 
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little space. 
It's actually in everything over

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at OD and I, I've had people 
tell me that it's as bad as 

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like, yeah, feel free to move it
wherever. 

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You want? 
It's not now we can see you. 

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It's as bad as 80% that are 
fighting against what Tulsi 

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Gabbard's initiatives are. 
So 20% of people might be on 

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board and 80% are pushing 
against it in any way they can 

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and they don't want anything to 
do with it. 

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So 95%, yeah, I think it's, I 
think the penetration is very 

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high, especially when you start 
getting into more senior levels.

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So the question then becomes, I 
listen to Dan Bongino say for 

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years personnel's policy, which 
I believe there's two ways that 

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this thing needed to be 
approached in my opinion. 

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Something I shared with Cash and
that I was really hopeful that 

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he was kind of understanding 
thing #1 this is a corporate 

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hostile takeover. 
This is a scenario where you 

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have a, a business, right? 
the United States government 

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business that has deliverables 
that they're supposed to give us

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and they haven't been, and 
they've been lying to the 

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shareholders us. 
And so they've been screwing us 

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on the, on that end. 
So that's your personal issue. 

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But it's also, it's like a beach
landing. 

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This is you've got to take sand 
before you can take Terra Firma,

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before you can take back any 
piece of that country because 

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these people are actively, 
they're entrenched as you 

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mentioned, they have well 
positioned and you know, and 

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very well thought out defenses 
and they have a vested interest 

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in you not doing the thing that 
you came to do. 

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Would you agree with? 
All those things. 

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So you're fighting A2 front war 
and you can, you can't fight 

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indictments upfront like that 
takes time. 

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And I and I know that more than 
most people. 

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And you can't do a lot of this 
other stuff where it's like 

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release the names, give us the 
files, show us the video. 

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It's like, what are you going to
do with that? 

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Nothing. 
Who cares? 

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Take your time, do those 
properly, 100% follow the 

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procedure. 
Don't screw up the prosecution 

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because of public opinion. 
But you can fire every single 

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person over AGS 15 and every 
single SES are there, or you can

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put them on a unpaid or paid 
leave status and moving to 

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Puerto Rico can't. 
Why not? 

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I, I don't even know we'll, 
we'll just to make it simple so 

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people can let's we, we take 
what, what is a really important

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utility of a small government, a
fire department in Liberty Hill.

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OK, right here. 
If we went there and we said OK,

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the low level firefighter, you 
get to stay. 

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Firefighter, EMT, paramedic, you
guys get to stay captain and a 

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beyond and above, which is 
effectively what the equivalence

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is. 
You guys are all frozen like you

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guys can't come to work. 
We have to. 

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We're shipping you down to 
Travis County where you can't do

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any damage. 
Yeah, and we're we're going to 

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do some backgrounds on you, 
maybe some polygraphs. 

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We're going to dig into some of 
your emails. 

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All of your emails are not 
yours. 

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That's the American governments 
and we get to look at them. 

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None of it's privacy. 
And then a fire happens in 

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Liberty Hill and a kid burns 
alive. 

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There's no way that the people 
of Liberty Hill are going to be 

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like, this was a good idea. 
OK, so so now we're not talking 

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about whether or not this is a 
solution, it's whether or not 

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you can take the fallout if 
something bad were to happen is.

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That harsher the fallout, but 
but we share values. 

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I I think most of them and I and
as much as I want due process 

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and justice and transparency and
radical change within these 

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organizations to include the 
Bureau, the fallout is one piece

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of it. 
Not just the PR of it, but more 

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importantly, the consequence in 
how do I the scales of justice 

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US solving this systematic 
problem, the process that is 

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broken within this organization 
to the fallout, morally and 

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ethically of what could or would
and I think you'd agree would 

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happen. 
I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to 

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give you some concrete examples 
of something why I think it 

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wouldn't. 
Well, and. 

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And it's and it's really dark. 
OK, I like dark, but in this 

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example, those firefighters are 
not going to know how to pay for

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filling up that truck. 
That's the captain's job. 

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Sure, right. 
And not even the chiefs job, but

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like one step, one pay grade 
above the captain, the guy 

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that's gonna pay to keep the 
lights on in the fire department

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and then make the those are 
things that are echelon above 

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just the operator level. 
And that's one fire. 

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But if we look at the national 
scale of an organization like 

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the Bureau with HRT that's doing
counterterrorism hostage rescue,

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that's that's working on Indian 
like how many Indian girls have 

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to disappear or how many 
terrorists. 

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So there's successfully. 
There's a couple of pieces on 

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there that are that are one of 
the things the FBI has done 

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since Hoover very, very well is 
sell the myth of the FBI. 

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And no one knows that better 
than people who have been in the

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FBI. 
So I'm going to, I'm going to 

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share with you a couple things 
and we'll see if it shifts any 

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of your opinion #1 when we had 
the COVID insanity, which I, I 

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could not stand and I fear fear 
based, absolute. 

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Yep, exactly what we're talking 
about living without fear. 

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Some people did. 
And one of the ways you did it 

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was by looking around, going, 
these numbers don't make any 

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sense. 
I've seen how long it takes to 

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get death statistics. 
I worked in an ER. 

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You know, if you have some 
experience in life and then 

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you're like, they're running a 
ticker on Fox News and CNN. 

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How many people in America have 
died? 

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You're going, there's no way 
that's legit. 

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That's not. 
Real. 

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My brother's a deputy, a sheriff
and I'm not to throw him under 

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the bus, but he was also as a 
homicide investigator. 

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He is the senior ranking guy for
the detectives and the 

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investigators. 
He had to sign with the the the 

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more cause of death for the 
county. 

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And he'd be like, homeboy got 
hit by a truck. 

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Why does it say COVID death? 
And they're like, well, he had 

451
00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,280
COVID. 
They tested for him at the 

452
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,360
hospital. 
I'm like, he was walking 

453
00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,840
crossing the highway and he got 
hit by what are you talking 

454
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,240
about? 
And here's all the numbers. 

455
00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,520
It's death with COVID versus 
death from COVID. 

456
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,440
But those numbers are the same. 
Yeah, they're the same. 

457
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:21,000
So we saw that. 
Yeah. 

458
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,080
One thing that happened and does
happen in an institution that's 

459
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:27,520
captured by sort of a leftist 
ideology is that you get this 

460
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:30,040
group of people that are going 
to 100% get on board with the 

461
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,120
fear. 
And they're probably not very 

462
00:21:32,120 --> 00:21:34,440
fit and they're probably not 
very self-sustaining, and they 

463
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,200
can't go without a paycheck. 
So they're going to do whatever 

464
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,440
they're told. 
And the wildest piece, I guess, 

465
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:43,120
is that the FBI shut down, 
including the national security 

466
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:46,240
mission for a lot of field 
offices, including Washington, 

467
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,240
DC. 
And nobody knows. 

468
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,920
But they shut down to the point 
where counterterrorism agents 

469
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,840
who worked every single day in a
skiff and theoretically the guys

470
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,000
that are making sure DC and, and
New York don't go boom, which is

471
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,240
what I heard in an interview the
other day. 

472
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,520
And I went like, they told you 
that. 

473
00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,040
And that sounds real until you 
actually worked in that skiff or

474
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,200
until you worked in that office 
and found out that nobody else 

475
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,360
was there. 
And they were scheduling 30 

476
00:22:08,360 --> 00:22:11,360
minutes. 
And this is a legit #30 minutes 

477
00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,160
twice a week. 
Come in and check your emails. 

478
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,200
Don't be in the same space as 
anybody else. 

479
00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,200
So this is during COVID, right? 
For nine months to, to 18 months

480
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,240
to the point where they started 
outsourcing all of these emails 

481
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,760
because they couldn't send them 
to the secure side. 

482
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,760
They're sending them out in. 
And, and I actually ended up 

483
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:30,320
leaking some of them because 
they were so embarrassing how 

484
00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,800
stupid they were. 
It was like, you know, people, 

485
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,680
it was like a, it was a drunken 
wine blog for like a mom. 

486
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:38,920
And she was putting it like she 
was the, she was the senior HR 

487
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,800
official at one point in time. 
And she was hitting up like 

488
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,640
thousands of employees talking 
about what her daughter's doing 

489
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:45,160
at cheerleading camp with a mask
on. 

490
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,240
And you're going like, what? 
But these people are not going 

491
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,040
to work. 
So the counterintelligence 

492
00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,400
mission was analyzed in 
Washington, DC, where you'd 

493
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,120
think it's like probably the 
number 2 CTCI mission in the, in

494
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,000
the country. 
New York is considered the most 

495
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,320
important for some reason. 
They have all the cost lists. 

496
00:22:58,360 --> 00:22:59,960
Anyway, they fight back. 
New York and Washington are 

497
00:22:59,960 --> 00:23:02,200
always fighting. 
When they did the analysis, my 

498
00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:03,520
buddy was in the skiff when it 
got briefed. 

499
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,160
They did the analysis of like, 
let's say 1500 cases. 

500
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,520
It's 100 agents working an 
average of 12 to 15 cases. 

501
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,240
There were only two that 
required daily updates. 

502
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,560
So the idea that there's this 
sensitive, like world changing 

503
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,880
mission that's going to happen 
in the CT space or in the CI 

504
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
space, it's mostly FBI myth 
being sold. 

505
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,600
That's my position from working 
with these guys and. 

506
00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,680
That's a data set from a frozen 
world, like in a President Trump

507
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,120
world. 
Isn't that when you'd want to do

508
00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:31,520
something though? 
No, no. 

509
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:37,040
No, nobody was doing anything 
like during this Overseas. 

510
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,160
We saw lots of turmoil being 
Russia going into Ukraine. 

511
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,040
We saw Taliban taking over 
Afghanistan, right? 

512
00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,760
We saw the cartels effectively 
doing all human trafficking, 

513
00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:51,160
drug smuggling. 
We all saw Antifa take over 

514
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:51,960
Portland. 
We saw. 

515
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,000
Without a doubt. 
So all this stuff was actually 

516
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,040
happening in the United States. 
Also, DC got overrun in in in 

517
00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:58,200
June that that year. 
Yeah. 

518
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,480
And the White House they drove 
into the bunker during that 

519
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,600
time. 
I wouldn't be surprised if 

520
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:05,080
there's a degree of 
complicitness in some of those 

521
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:06,920
things. 
Oh, that overseas influence, I'm

522
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:14,200
almost certain of that, yeah. 
But now and I, I obviously I've 

523
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,200
never been to the Bureau. 
I don't speak for the Bureau. 

524
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,920
And I'm just speaking from my 
opinion from my friends and I, I

525
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:26,760
do think that they have a really
important mission being what is 

526
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:29,720
supposed to be the premier law 
enforcement agency in the United

527
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,000
States and being responsible for
the vast majority of the the 

528
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,880
most important forms of 
enforcement that can't be done 

529
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,520
by local municipals in cities, 
counties, states. 

530
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:52,960
That I would rather err on the 
side of caution and not back 

531
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:58,560
back to my, my fire in the 
Liberty Hill example, because I 

532
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,880
think that we are more 
vulnerable now than we've ever 

533
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,560
been as infrastructure of a 
country. 

534
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:11,600
And what is systems that are 
poised to collapse if some of 

535
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:15,520
these things do collapse. 
If Director Patel comes in and 

536
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,760
says, you know, GS from this 
level and above, you guys got to

537
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,960
walk hands off your computers. 
We'll go through everything that

538
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,480
that is the opportunity and the 
trigger for every single one of 

539
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:33,200
our adversaries to kick off the 
millions, 10s of millions of 

540
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,800
people that have come to this 
country, most of which not most 

541
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,480
of which that said a a a large 
percentage of are dangerous anti

542
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,800
American operatives. 
Yeah, I mean, it could be a 

543
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,120
large volume without it being a 
large percentage. 

544
00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,080
I think I can agree on that, 
right. 

545
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,400
Like you could have 10s of 
thousands of bad actors and it 

546
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,520
still is not the majority of 
people. 

547
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,560
So I I know what you're saying. 
I don't know. 

548
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,120
Is that not, is that not just 
what the FBI want you to 

549
00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:54,880
believe? 
Do you? 

550
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,520
Is there a? 
Possibility of Pi like I I I 

551
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,080
don't care what the FBI wants. 
I definitely. 

552
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,720
Because they definitely don't 
want to have the GS15 and above 

553
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:05,480
put on standby to Puerto Rico 
the way that Kyle Seraphin wants

554
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,920
them to go. 
I I, I by no means am I like 

555
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,920
trying to defend a government 
that I don't that I want to see 

556
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,360
shrunk down to about 10% of its 
current size. 

557
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:14,880
Sure. 
OK. 

558
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:15,640
We agree on that. 
Yeah. 

559
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,040
Like this I'm I'm hardcore into 
this, but how do I how do I do 

560
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,680
that? 
Let me show. 

561
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:21,840
Let me throw an idea to you. 
OK. 

562
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,680
You ready? 
Yes. 

563
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,320
So we spend $11 billion on the 
FBI. 

564
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,400
I don't know what we spend on 
the DOJI should know off the top

565
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,240
of my head, but it's it's more 
than that, right? 

566
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,880
And then you've got other money 
that's thrown into DEA, You've 

567
00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,320
got other money into ATF, which 
we should get rid of altogether.

568
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,040
There's, there's a lot of money 
there's yeah, there's 10s 

569
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,840
abolish 10s of billions. 
Of dollars agency name right now

570
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,200
and like abolish right. 
Come back like Department of 

571
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,840
Commerce, Yeah. 
Don't need IT, Department 

572
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,840
Education don't need it exactly.
We can kick all these things 

573
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,040
because I don't want them, We 
want the. 

574
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,800
President Malay just be like. 
Yeah, I swear to all of it. 

575
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,280
Yeah, RIP it off the wall, throw
it in the ground. 

576
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,040
But if you wanted to do that and
you wanted to know a plan 

577
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,960
because everybody's like, oh, 
well, like, what's your, what's 

578
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,840
the problem? 
Problem's easy to diagnose. 

579
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,960
Anybody can call it out. 
Nobody cares if you can call it 

580
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,080
the problem. 
I want to know a solution. 

581
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,440
The solution looks like this. 
That money can be reallocated by

582
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,760
population to the states. 
OK. 

583
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,640
You're still going to have a DOJ
of prosecutors because you're 

584
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,480
still going to need federal 
prosecutors that have the 

585
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:19,280
authority, the supremacy clause,
and they have a constitutional 

586
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,440
duty to go out there and go 
after Interstate commerce and 

587
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,360
the other things, which, by the 
way, is way too big. 

588
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,360
Do you know that the FBI can 
pick up a gun case because some 

589
00:27:25,360 --> 00:27:29,080
dude like runs around with a gun
and they go, well, that gun 

590
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:33,720
wasn't made in Texas and because
it was sold from out of state, 

591
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,280
like it was made in smear to 
Georgia or whatever, like that 

592
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,040
Glock is Interstate commerce. 
That's the FB is Nexus. 

593
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,760
I'm not even exaggerated. 
That's literally what the 

594
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,960
affidavit will say to make a gun
case, a federal case is that it 

595
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,760
came from out of state. 
That's not good. 

596
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,600
And if they can't do it, that 
they'll do it off the ammo, you 

597
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,440
know, like that ammo came from 
Idaho, like it's federal, like 

598
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:52,760
at CCI or whatever. 
So they'll do that. 

599
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,000
So my, my proposition would be, 
and this is radical and this is 

600
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,040
like crying in the sky. 
This is not real today because 

601
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:00,840
no one's going to do this 
because it's too sensible. 

602
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,440
You take all the the billions of
dollars you have, you allocate 

603
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,120
it by population set, you send 
it out there. 

604
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,760
Then we have the thing that I 
want most, more local control, 

605
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,680
decentralized from DC, more 
controlled by the individual 

606
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,280
States and 9th and 10th 
amendment type stuff. 

607
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,160
You get your senior, you can set
up the criteria. 

608
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,640
Each state can do it. 10 years 
as a State Patrol officer or as 

609
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:25,000
a senior deputy or as a somebody
who's an experienced patrol guy 

610
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:28,600
and they can apply to be part of
the federal task force, which 

611
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,960
would be deputized under 18 USC 
and 21 Title 21. 

612
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,400
So they have two options to be 
able to enforce drugs or 

613
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,960
everything else. 
And when they do, they're 

614
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,360
answerable in theory to state 
policy. 

615
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,640
A state attorney general which 
has an election and some sort of

616
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280
local group that they go over 
and they get title. 

617
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,200
They all both have local 
authorities. 

618
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,080
And you know, that's really 
strong because federal agents 

619
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:50,160
can't pull people over. 
They can't do vehicle stops. 

620
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,360
They can't do probable cause 
searches, even though they 

621
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,360
theoretically can. 
If you ever do a probable cause 

622
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,480
search, like on somebody or 
Terry stop, you're going to not 

623
00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,480
have that job or you're going to
find yourself in charge of the 

624
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,800
broom closet because they won't 
let you do it. 

625
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,720
So you get people who have 
actually spent time on the 

626
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,680
street doing real cop work and 
then let them be senior 

627
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,320
investigators and they've 
already been vetted for like a 

628
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,880
decade to know that they know 
what's going on and they haven't

629
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,480
had like all the infractions. 
And you pay that money with 

630
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,480
federal dollars and then they 
can still bring it. 

631
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,320
And by the way, we already have 
this model because they're 

632
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,240
called federal task forces. 
We do it with Haida and we do it

633
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,080
with JTTF and take your pick. 
We get local officers and state 

634
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,880
officers all the time into the 
federal space to go bring 

635
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,480
prosecutions. 
And if they can't take it to the

636
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,600
federal, they can still take it 
to the state. 

637
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,080
And you got the same guy doing 
it. 

638
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,480
Yeah, I mean it, it's it is a 
cool radical idea and it does 

639
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,440
definitely give the proponents 
power back to the small local 

640
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,720
government, which is I think 
something that we do agree on 

641
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,520
this House of Cards that a lot 
of these agencies and 

642
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,720
specifically when it comes to 
the vulnerable national 

643
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,360
strategic problems, that is the 
Tulsi Gabbard problem, the Joe 

644
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:57,560
Kent problem, the Sebastian Gork
problem, the Cash Patel problem,

645
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:01,600
the Pam Bondi problem, Pete 
Hegseth problem. 

646
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:08,440
Sure, you know, these people are
not my best friends, but I know 

647
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,000
them pretty well. 
And Secretary Hegseth. 

648
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,800
Director Gabbard. 
I I I trust these. 

649
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,080
It's hard for me. 
Like Secretary Hex, not Pete. 

650
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:21,840
Secretary. 
I'm still in the military. 

651
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,760
So like Secretary Hegseth. 
Yeah, I get you. 

652
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,560
And not Tulsi, but Director 
Gabbard. 

653
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,880
That's right. 
I saw, I saw that that 

654
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:29,320
calculation. 
Sorry, I think everybody else 

655
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,280
saw too saw the the gears grind.
I really trust. 

656
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:38,600
These people and I know that 
Hegseth is trying to keep a 

657
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:42,800
Department of Defense operating 
because if we don't China, 

658
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,600
Russia, Iran, our cartels, 
they're just sitting there 

659
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
waiting. 
And I'm I'm, I'm pivoting to DoD

660
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,560
because because that House of 
Cards he's walking a tightrope 

661
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,880
with like I want to do all of 
these changes which are over 

662
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,720
here. 
Here are the things that are 

663
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,200
keeping this and I can only take
one or two things off at a time 

664
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,880
to stay in balance, to not let 
it fall apart. 

665
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,360
I agree with all those. 
I I don't think there's any. 

666
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,520
I don't fault what's going on. 
I always look at the DoD as like

667
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,040
being the, the watchtower of the
century. 

668
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,080
That's looking outward, right? 
I mean, that's where the mission

669
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:15,960
is. 
It's outside of the United 

670
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,800
States generally. 
And then your your DOJ is 

671
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,440
theoretically looking inward, 
are popular. 

672
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:24,400
Theoretically they they get over
their skis and spend some people

673
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,560
to go where they don't mean to 
be. 

674
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,280
But but I agree with you on the 
DoD thing. 

675
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:33,520
Like Don Bongino, Cash Patel. 
Are are are they compromised 

676
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,120
intellectually? 
I don't think so. 

677
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,680
So I don't have to make it. 
It's in 90 days, right? 

678
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:39,280
Yeah. 
I don't make the argument that 

679
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,800
these guys have bad motives or 
that they have bad ideas or that

680
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,440
they're nefarious actors. 
I I wouldn't do that. 

681
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,400
I I are they smart People 
generally are. 

682
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,560
We're all. 
But I think we're all vulnerable

683
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:49,120
to one. 
Really. 

684
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:50,800
This is the biggest 
vulnerability. 

685
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600
Have you ever walked? 
Have you ever been part of a 

686
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:59,400
team where everybody hated you? 
Like, I just sort of, I sort of 

687
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,520
instinctively know that that 
that's been a thing you've done.

688
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,920
You're a high achiever. 
You're outspoken, you're 

689
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:05,080
charismatic. 
Like you've got a big 

690
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,520
personality. 
You fill up a room. 

691
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:08,280
Some people hate that. 
Yeah. 

692
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:09,760
Yeah. 
And and when you go into a place

693
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,800
where you're hated, it doesn't 
feel good. 

694
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,360
And so if there was a way that 
you could ameliorate that 

695
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,480
problem, you might, especially 
if you didn't think it was much 

696
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,680
of A compromise and if it was 
presented to you as a win. 

697
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:23,920
Yeah, that that's a real big 
danger in a place where without 

698
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,880
a doubt, Dan said it this 
morning while he went on Fox and

699
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Friends. 
He said when we got into the 

700
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,440
office, we had people that came 
up and touched my arm and said, 

701
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:32,400
thank God you're here. 
We have all these things we need

702
00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:34,640
to show you. 
You cannot make the argument 

703
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,800
that that agency, which is only 
interested in self preservation 

704
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,200
and full of corrupt and 
nefarious actors that need to 

705
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,040
self preserve. 
You can't tell me those people. 

706
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,280
They don't know how to go up 
there and win somebody over that

707
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:45,680
might be the one that puts their
head up and have been 

708
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:48,360
professionally trained their 
whole entire life to manipulate 

709
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,280
people to get what they want. 
We're talking about source 

710
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:51,360
recruiting. 
That's absolutely. 

711
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,240
That's the, that's the. 
Goal in national intelligence at

712
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,800
the agency, at the Department of
Adjustment, You know who gets. 

713
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:01,040
Like the the vast majority of 
people that make it into the, to

714
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,000
the senior rank of the FBI. 
So this is your your fifteens, 

715
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,920
but generally speaking, your SES
that's going to be filling up 

716
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,440
your 7th floor, your executives,
they come out of national 

717
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,600
security backgrounds and you 
know why they've got all the 

718
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,880
time to write their resume up 
because they're not running down

719
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:16,640
bad guys. 
Like the people that are working

720
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:18,880
criminal cases are working 
criminal cases and they don't 

721
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,240
promote because that's why 
they're there. 

722
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,680
The people that want to promote,
they find themselves one case. 

723
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,000
And we saw this over and over 
again. 

724
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,200
They briefed that case. 
Dan called them briefers. 

725
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,720
There's a name for it in every 
agency, the FBI, like my buddies

726
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:32,680
and I, we would see something 
and somebody would go like, 

727
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,680
well, we just did this thing and
my buddy would look at me and he

728
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:37,400
was a former smoke jumper and a 
Marine and, you know, like nose 

729
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,040
to the grindstone kind of guy. 
And he was like, yeah, that 

730
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,560
probably briefs really well. 
And I bet it does. 

731
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,480
And that's how you get promoted.
Those are the people that 

732
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:45,440
they're surrounded with. 
So you don't have to impugn 

733
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,280
their honor or their motives. 
And I don't lest anyone think 

734
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,080
otherwise. 
But I do think it's easy to get 

735
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,960
compromised, like your mission 
can be compromised without your 

736
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:55,480
principles. 
And you think you're actually 

737
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,240
doing a good job because people 
sell you. 

738
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,920
That's what their job is. 
And to not be, you know, that 

739
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:03,080
Monday, Monday morning 
quarterback because I'm not in 

740
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,360
their shoes. 
But what what I'm going to have 

741
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,159
to defer to is is a little bit 
of faith and trust on in the 

742
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:11,360
person. 
And when we look at the the 

743
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,679
cabinet picks, when we look at 
the director Patel's and we look

744
00:34:14,679 --> 00:34:17,880
at the special Corkas and the 
Tulsi Gabbards and this egg 

745
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Seths and the Joe Kents, like 
look at Joe Kent, the the the 

746
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,760
dudes fifth special forces 
group, like right, like the only

747
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,400
one that matters, right, right. 
And then goes to the agency and 

748
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,280
is an app killer Kent. 
His name was Killer Kent and now

749
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,960
he's sitting they. 
Just give that out to everybody.

750
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,639
Yeah, it's totally sitting, 
sitting at the head of one of 

751
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:41,080
the most important, you know, 
counterterrorism decision making

752
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:48,880
positions, those that that's the
Dream Team and the RFKS and the 

753
00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,320
Doctor Oz's. 
I don't think they all got 

754
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,320
compromised in 90 days. 
But none of the things that I 

755
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,880
want to happen have happened 
fast enough and I can be 

756
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,480
sharpshooting. 
Like, why didn't they do this? 

757
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,200
Well, you had a great idea. 
It's a radical idea. 

758
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,880
Why didn't Cash do that? 
Why didn't Pam Bondi do that? 

759
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:04,120
I don't think. 
Anybody was going to do that 

760
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,720
for? 
Whatever, it's just a good idea.

761
00:35:05,720 --> 00:35:08,640
They can't but but what I did 
see is I see examples of where 

762
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,920
it can be done quickly. 
I know, but confirmation bias, 

763
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:13,040
as you know an investigation is 
one of the most dangerous things

764
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,680
where like I'm looking for 
examples that support an idea 

765
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,880
that they have been captured, 
they have been out leveraged, 

766
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,760
they are being manipulated and I
just. 

767
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,360
I want to see examples where 
we're winning, and I do see some

768
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,160
examples of that. 
So for a ton of them, yeah. 

769
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,600
Yeah. 
So Treasury Scott Besson seems 

770
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,280
to be killing it. 
He brought people back. 

771
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,680
He took whistleblowers they were
getting and he said, oh, you 

772
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,480
went and screwed those guys life
over. 

773
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:35,080
I want you in charge of 
something. 

774
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:36,760
I'm going to scare the shit out 
of these bad guys. 

775
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,720
We're RFK in charge. 
RFK keeps doing a. 

776
00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:41,000
Tons of wins so. 
Here's what I see and and I and 

777
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:44,480
I think secretary headsets has 
done the same thing in in the 

778
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
areas where he's able to win. 
Like, like you said, 11 

779
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,760
balancing act that that's a 
that's a tightrope, a a 

780
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,840
dangerous. 
One that if we fall off, Iran 

781
00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,080
has another October 7th, yeah. 
Yeah, for sure. 

782
00:35:55,080 --> 00:35:57,640
That's going to get our bigger 
significant, significant 

783
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,200
vulnerabilities if if you screw 
it up. 

784
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,040
And yet I see people in the 
media crying about some people 

785
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,520
and not crying about other 
people. 

786
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,880
And I always kind of go by the 
same attitude that the enemy 

787
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,920
will tell you where you are weak
and where they are strong and 

788
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,280
they will tell you where they 
are getting injured and where 

789
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,800
you you are not doing any 
damage. 

790
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,080
And if they're crying about 
people and you mentioned people 

791
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,160
that they're upset about, I see 
that. 

792
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,320
I see Harmony Dylan show up to 
DOJ and 100 people quit the same

793
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,680
like week that she's there 
because she came in and said 

794
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,080
firearms are a civil liberty and
the Second Amendment is a civil 

795
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,840
rights thing that we're going to
defend in this department. 

796
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,800
And people went like, I'm out, 
I'm popping smoke. 

797
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,120
I've been. 
Doing this for Felicia, Yeah. 

798
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,480
Exactly. 
Like good riddance. 

799
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:40,360
And yet that's tangible. 
You came in and sat down. 

800
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:42,120
She laid down the law. 
She said what she was going to 

801
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,600
do and you're winning and and 
she's not the senior person, 

802
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,440
she's not Pam Bondi. 
That's not a comfortable chair, 

803
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:48,240
is it? 
That's fine. 

804
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,360
It's it's more I was like, I 
just got done working out and my

805
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,560
legs are trashed and I'm still, 
I'm still busted from Murph. 

806
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,160
So people understand, like you 
came in and you said, hey, 

807
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,000
what's going on? 
And then you dropped trout in my

808
00:36:58,000 --> 00:36:58,920
kitchen. 
That's correct. 

809
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Within about 90 seconds I put 
my. 

810
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,080
Gun on your counter and I can I 
leave this here and I took my 

811
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960
workout shorts off and I put 
pants on so I didn't sit here 

812
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,320
with like it felt right short 
origin shorts that. 

813
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:11,720
Would have been OK, too. 
OK, there we have a, we have a 

814
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:13,440
female audience. 
It's not the majority of it, but

815
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,240
there's some. 
Like those are gross legs. 

816
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,320
They cover that hair. 
They would be excited. 

817
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,120
OK, we we're green on almost 
everything. 

818
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,240
It's it's about almost OK the 
the Y we're green on the end 

819
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:28,720
state. 
We're green on it's, it's 

820
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,840
currently like we're sharp 
shooting a process. 

821
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,680
Yeah. 
How are they going about this? 

822
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,680
And I think my real worry is, is
that because of the process, 

823
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,000
we're not going to end up at the
end state. 

824
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,560
And and I hear you there. 
And, and here's here's my 

825
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,040
biggest, here's my biggest 
challenge. 

826
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,440
If you were going into a 
country, country you hadn't been

827
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:48,120
into scorched earth or you 
hadn't been there in a long 

828
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,040
time, OK. 
And you're you're going to take 

829
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,440
a team and you're going to go 
win hearts and minds and you're 

830
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,200
going to do what SF guys do. 
You're going to take a small 

831
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,040
group of your guys and you're 
going to take a nation back by 

832
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,240
using Indige forces. 
Do you want a local tour guide 

833
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:03,200
that you could trust? 
No. 

834
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:04,680
None. 
Yeah, of course. 

835
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,080
You want someone that knows the 
ground, right? 

836
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,080
Like you need somebody that has 
like ground truth from the area.

837
00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:10,360
That person's really dangerous, 
yeah. 

838
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,920
Like you need, you need to know 
the lay of the land so you know 

839
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:15,400
who's the snake and who's the 
one that's selling you. 

840
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,840
You need to know that that guy 
just shook hands with you and 

841
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,920
promised you something, but he 
promised somebody else something

842
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:21,960
the night before because that's 
how he operates. 

843
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:24,160
And by the way, the last three 
guys he shook hands with got 

844
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,400
killed and they got dragged off 
in the dark and they were never 

845
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,080
heard from again. 
You'd want to know that. 

846
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,040
So you know, The thing is, and 
this is, this is a like a real 

847
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,600
in the weeds example, but we saw
Steve Jensen get promoted. 

848
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:38,640
Did you see that? 
So Steve Jensen people were like

849
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:40,680
were like, well, how come nobody
was crying about him? 

850
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,520
Because nobody knows what DTOS 
is. 

851
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Because if you don't work in the
FBI and you're like not a 

852
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,400
complete nerd who studies org 
charts, why would you know what 

853
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,320
the domestic terrorism 
operations section is in the 

854
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,160
FBI? 
Unless you just have like a real

855
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,960
problem, like maybe you're 
autistic and that's your thing. 

856
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,000
But otherwise, you don't know 
who Steve Jensen is. 

857
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:57,520
But if you know what a section 
chief is because you've worked 

858
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,800
in the FBI, you know what that 
guy does, what he what he's 

859
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,160
capable of and where he was. 
And you know that he doesn't 

860
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,480
know anything about the pipe 
bomber case because that's like 

861
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:09,760
saying a general, it's like a 
one star knew what was going on 

862
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,080
in the house that you kicked the
door in on. 

863
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:13,840
Like maybe he was able to watch 
the feed but probably not. 

864
00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:23,080
So in the past three months and 
confirmation bias, looking to 

865
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,640
negatives and negatives are a 
dangerous thing. 

866
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:32,120
Like if I have a salad and I see
a speck of fly shit, the whole 

867
00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,480
salad's ruined. 
You don't want the salad. 

868
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,080
I'm not going to pick like that 
leaf up. 

869
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:37,560
I don't believe you. 
I think you're eating that 

870
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,760
salad. 
Oh yeah, I would. 

871
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,720
I would eat anything. 
What do you? 

872
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,440
Mean, I got to say I'm like, I 
hate that there's a hair in this

873
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:44,320
thing. 
I'm going to still. 

874
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,920
Eat it on, on on the negative 
side of when you're evaluating 

875
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,960
something that it, it is way 
more toxic. 

876
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,760
Like during the election of 2016
and 2020, you know, Google very 

877
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,600
wisely. 
You know, if you googled Trump 

878
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,920
or Hillary, you, you, you'd see 
a bunch of great things pop up 

879
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:03,520
and you'd see at the top for 
Trump, like womanizing, grab her

880
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:09,160
by the blank and that then. 
Made the rest of the information

881
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,960
that we're going to be BC 
tainted and and that's a 

882
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:19,000
dangerous thing in the in trying
to get a kind of holistic, 

883
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,120
trying to understand a a full 
bell curve, the aggregate, the 

884
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:23,520
accumulation of information that
we're seeing. 

885
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:26,840
But when we have lots of 
positive examples, they're often

886
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,760
times outweighed by the 
negatives. 

887
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,760
And I try to and it's not the 
way that our media works. 

888
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,040
We are not being fed any 
positive stuff. 

889
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,000
Agreed, like it's I only read 
the left-leaning media so just 

890
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,440
for your awareness. 
Like that's what I do. 

891
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:49,120
My day involves 
ABCCBSNBCCNNNNPRMSNBCI. 

892
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:51,240
Almost never go to any right 
leaning sources and I find a 

893
00:40:51,240 --> 00:40:53,000
couple of independents every 
once in a while that I go look 

894
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:54,280
into that have stuff of 
interest. 

895
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:56,480
I only want, I want to hear 
independents. 

896
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,360
I would love, I love finding 
new, new independent guys. 

897
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,760
Yeah. 
But like, I only want to see 

898
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,520
what people that I don't agree 
with say. 

899
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,240
So that's my attempt always. 
And I used to do this when I was

900
00:41:07,240 --> 00:41:09,640
when I was an FBI agent. 
It's like if I have a case that 

901
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,160
I think is really righteous, the
first thing I want to do is try 

902
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,920
to disprove my case because if I
can, so can a defense attorney. 

903
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,520
That should be my job. 
That's that's the process is 

904
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,800
like, how do I find exculpatory 
information to make this not my 

905
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,320
case anymore to say that this 
case is not going to be good 

906
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,880
enough to prosecute. 
And when you do it, by the way, 

907
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,600
it's really satisfying. 
Like nothing makes you feel 

908
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,400
better, at least in my opinion, 
than realizing that you did your

909
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,760
job and you're like, I don't 
care about outcomes, I care 

910
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,160
about fairness. 
So I'm going to go out there and

911
00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,920
be really fair. 
And when you do, you're like, 

912
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,800
cool. 
Like I, I tanked this case. 

913
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,600
It's not good anymore. 
But the thing that I started off

914
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,880
believing and the way it was 
briefed to me is not accurate. 

915
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,880
And there's evidence of it. 
And so the evidence destroys the

916
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:51,200
case, like when you go that 
right, you end up with sure, 

917
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:54,200
you're you're not turning in as 
many investigations, but the one

918
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,440
that you're turning in, you're 
getting crazy awesome conviction

919
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:58,800
rates on. 
Well, that's what that's the 

920
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,920
only thing that matters. 
And if it's and if it's sketchy,

921
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:03,480
why are we doing this? 
You know what I mean? 

922
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,880
And so there's plenty of people.
Bill Shipley said this, he was 

923
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,200
AJ6 attorney. 
He said the government has lost 

924
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,960
the ability to like be 
interested in the process that 

925
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,440
there should be no interest in 
the outcome. 

926
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:14,040
So we're talking about end 
states here. 

927
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,360
That's the thing that management
might have. 

928
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:18,400
But when it comes to the ground 
level investigators, all I want 

929
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:21,080
is people to go out without any 
preconceived bias, without 

930
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:22,960
anybody leaning on them and say,
by the way, you're going to be 

931
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,280
opening the CT case or by the 
way you're going to be looking 

932
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,120
into these pro lifers. 
Or you're going to go out there 

933
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,560
and sit in the parking lot and 
write down, you know, license 

934
00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:32,600
plates of parents who are 
hanging out at your school or 

935
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:33,960
want to, you know, do something 
like that. 

936
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:38,880
Like, I want to see people just 
go out and find out that it's 

937
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:40,640
fair. 
And if there's a case there, 

938
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:41,960
great. 
And you know, and because 

939
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,920
there's lots of bad people, 
there's unlimited bad people. 

940
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,640
It's not like we have to like go
out there and find more. 

941
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,360
There's unlimited evil in this 
in the world. 

942
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:54,720
In, in this idea of balancing 
and objectively taking as much 

943
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:57,800
of this information as we can 
and how easy it is to look at 

944
00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,280
all the negatives, the things 
that aren't happening, the, you 

945
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,560
know, files that aren't being 
released. 

946
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,960
What what I do see is that 
they're following law. 

947
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:10,200
They're not breaking the law. 
They're not releasing things 

948
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,480
they're not supposed to be 
releasing. 

949
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,640
They're they're going through 
due process. 

950
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:18,360
Do I believe that there are 
embedded operatives that are 

951
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:22,360
trying to manipulate the 
director and the Bureau for 

952
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:25,040
their own interests and to 
maintain the status quo? 

953
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,720
Absolutely. 
Should they just be like 

954
00:43:27,720 --> 00:43:31,400
escorted out? 
No, They they should be in 

955
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,520
appropriate policy and 
appropriate process within the 

956
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:40,800
Bureau, by the letter of the 
law, fired in accordance. 

957
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,040
We we have. 
That it and and they're doing 

958
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,040
that, but it doesn't happen in 
90 days. 

959
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,560
It actually can happen in one 
day and, and I'm going to give 

960
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,360
you my personal example of it, 
and there's no reason that you 

961
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:55,400
would know this, OK? 
I went to Congress in October of

962
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,080
2021 and I shared with him 
information about how the FBI 

963
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,640
had been abusing FISA. 
I shared with him stuff about 

964
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,040
the Afghan refugee camps that we
had. 

965
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,240
We had two different parolee 
camps, whatever it was 100,000 

966
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,520
in this country, 20,000 in my 
area of responsibility. 

967
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,920
We had 20,000 at Bliss and 
20,000 at Holloman Air Force 

968
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:12,280
Base. 
And I was investigating like 

969
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,840
weird crimes of people beating 
their wife that wasn't really 

970
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:17,280
their wife and people lying 
about their age and finding out 

971
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,200
that they were on some sort of a
watch list, like all this kind 

972
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:20,480
of, you know, biometrics come 
back, whatever. 

973
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:24,040
So we're doing that. 
And so that was my task. 

974
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:25,400
And I brought all this stuff to 
Congress. 

975
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,560
I showed them that they, they 
created an e-mail saying that 

976
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,840
they were going to do a threat 
tag on, on parents at school 

977
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:31,000
boards. 
And that was real troubling to 

978
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:32,640
me because I don't want to see 
that I'm a parent. 

979
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,880
Even though my kids were 
homeschooled, we were actually 

980
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,040
at an Actin Academy for two 
weeks and we pulled them out 

981
00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,480
because I didn't like the way 
they were doing masking and a 

982
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:40,800
bunch of other nonsense in New 
Mexico. 

983
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,680
I I had an act. 
In school for one year before, 

984
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,640
yeah, my wife was. 
My wife sent me a text about it 

985
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:47,560
before we started talking. 
She was like, apparently he had 

986
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,680
something going on with Actin, 
but it's no longer associated. 

987
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,600
I'm like, yeah, I remember 
hearing a little bit. 

988
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,280
I got kicked out and be 
currently being sued by them. 

989
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:54,760
That's what I heard, yeah. 
Yeah. 

990
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,760
We can talk about that. 
Another, I think we're we're 

991
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,800
aligned here. 
I just don't like people caving 

992
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:01,040
to stuff. 
So I saw things that I thought 

993
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:02,320
were wrong. 
I brought up the Congress at the

994
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,000
same time they came and told me 
you had to get a shot. 

995
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:06,720
I said, I'm not going to do 
that, mostly because they told 

996
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,440
me I had to. 
I don't, I don't like people 

997
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,920
pushing things in my face. 
And then I realized a lot more 

998
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,480
things. 
And so like I'm more on the RFK 

999
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,520
trip than I was then. 
I, you know, a lot of people 

1000
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,400
open their eyes. 
I was told I couldn't come back 

1001
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:21,160
into the office. 
And so I said, well, you're 

1002
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,120
going to have to kick me out. 
So I showed back up on the 

1003
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,160
Monday. 
This was on November 23rd of 

1004
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:27,480
2021. 
They kicked me out of the office

1005
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,240
and said you can no longer come 
back in because you don't have a

1006
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:33,280
COVID swab every 72 hours. 
If you don't upload a swab, 

1007
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,040
you're not allowed to be in our 
physical space. 

1008
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,840
I said, OK. 
I said I'm a I'm a paramedic and

1009
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:39,920
I've been a paramedic for a 
decade, nationally certified, 

1010
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,360
state certified, FBI certified, 
and I have a top secret 

1011
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,640
clearance for the last 6 1/2 
years. 

1012
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:47,720
OK, dude, like you can't trust 
me to stay home with the 

1013
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:49,440
sniffles. 
So I showed up in the office and

1014
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,120
my boss is like, dude, did you 
get a test? 

1015
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,160
And I go no. 
And he's like, you got to go 

1016
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,680
home. 
And I go, OK, but you have to 

1017
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,400
tell me to go home. 
Like I want you to tell me that 

1018
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,040
I can't be here and do my job. 
And he was like, come on, dude, 

1019
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,040
look, come in my office. 
We spent two hours in his 

1020
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:03,520
office. 
He told me his wife had COVID, 

1021
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,080
even though she had gotten the 
shot right. 

1022
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,080
And all the stuff that was 
doing. 

1023
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,640
And we're just bullshitting like
regular dudes. 

1024
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:10,200
And he's a nice enough guy. 
He was my neighbor too. 

1025
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,920
So he's like half mile away. 
They kicked me out of the 

1026
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,160
office. 
I'm put on permanent AWOL with 

1027
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,320
no ability to come back until 
the the rules change, which it 

1028
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:23,960
did in the middle of February. 
I think it was like February 9th

1029
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,800
of 2022. 
I'm out in the desert and if 

1030
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,960
anybody's ever lived in a public
land state, there's all kinds of

1031
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:30,520
open land. 
It was right next to BLM land. 

1032
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,120
I'm out shooting on one of those
steel targets and some other 

1033
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:34,880
ones that you saw. 
I'm out shooting in the desert 

1034
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,440
by myself, like in the middle of
nowhere. 

1035
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,400
I'm 865 yards with my back to a 
road. 

1036
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,920
And on the other side of the 
road is a high school. 

1037
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:43,240
I'm a half mile. 
I'm on it like, you know, I'm at

1038
00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,160
a lower elevation and I'm 
shooting into a burn that's 30 

1039
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:47,240
feet high. 
There's there's no problem. 

1040
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,280
Cop comes out, talks to me, he 
goes, hey bro, can you go shoot 

1041
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,760
somewhere else? 
And I said I could, but I'm not 

1042
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:53,440
going to because I'm allowed to 
be here. 

1043
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,280
And we're standing on shotgun 
shells. 

1044
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,440
And he's like, people shoot here
every day. 

1045
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,720
Like exactly, I'm going to be 
here. 

1046
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:00,200
And he was like, yeah, no 
problem. 

1047
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:01,960
He goes, I go, what's the state 
law say? 

1048
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,880
He goes, I honestly don't know. 
And I'm like, it says 150 yards 

1049
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,200
from an occupied structure. 
I was like, I'll range find 

1050
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,840
that, but I know by eyeball it's
over 800. 

1051
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:09,960
And he was like, no, no, you're 
good. 

1052
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,400
So then he left 3 minutes of 
body Cam. 

1053
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:14,080
Was. 
Generated no report. 

1054
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:16,720
Drives off 10/8 No report. 
He goes about his day. 

1055
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,680
My boss had me suspended in one 
day for that. 

1056
00:47:22,720 --> 00:47:24,720
They went and said I was 
unprofessional to a police 

1057
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,920
officer and they pulled my badge
and my gun the day after Easter 

1058
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:29,920
when they opened the 
investigation. 

1059
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:35,280
They opened it on on April the 
whatever it was like it was 

1060
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:37,920
April the 15th and they walked 
me out on April the 18th. 

1061
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,480
So it got done over a weekend. 
You know how many things get 

1062
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:41,880
done in the federal government 
over a weekend? 

1063
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,200
Yeah, not often. 
Like nothing, especially Easter 

1064
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440
weekend. 
So it can be done very quickly. 

1065
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,120
And I was never allowed to come 
back in. 

1066
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:50,560
They and and my buddy Garrett 
Boyle had the same thing. 

1067
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,040
So did Steve Friend, so did all 
the guys. 

1068
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:53,160
And by the way, we were 
everything. 

1069
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,240
That you just listed is wrong. 
But those are all processes that

1070
00:47:56,240 --> 00:47:57,840
exist. 
They're Supreme Court precedent.

1071
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:00,240
But they're wrong processes. 
Well, I don't, I don't disagree,

1072
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:04,240
but they're processes. 
Right, but we want them to do 

1073
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,720
the wrong thing. 
This is back to like the moral 

1074
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:09,880
equivalency of like we're going 
to be doing the same thing that 

1075
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:11,840
they were doing, which is wrong 
in every way. 

1076
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,440
How do we follow the law? 
How do we follow process and 

1077
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,200
precedent? 
And then also how do we morally 

1078
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,520
reconcile and the and I don't 
know how to do this. 

1079
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,320
That's what I'm saying. 
What what is the answer to that?

1080
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,400
Because it's there and it will 
be used. 

1081
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:30,440
But I know these people and 
these people I still trust to 

1082
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,600
try and do the right thing. 
So do I think that they're 

1083
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,760
asking these questions? 
Do I think like, what mechanisms

1084
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,720
can we use this process? 
Can we use this precedent? 

1085
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:43,840
Can I use doge? 
Can I use like, can I fire, fire

1086
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,680
this guy for like for cause 
because of this, this, this? 

1087
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,760
Can we get apps? 
I think they're doing all of 

1088
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:55,360
those things, but it's going to 
take a little bit of time And 

1089
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,000
the is the outcome going to be 
the outcome that we want? 

1090
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,320
Probably not because like, I 
still want radical. 

1091
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Right. 
Do you think we'll get 80% of 

1092
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,600
the outcome? 
What's, what's an acceptable 

1093
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,760
like penetration of, of our hope
versus a realistic output? 

1094
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,120
I said if Donald Trump did 30% 
of what he said, we'd be 

1095
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,360
winning. 
And I think we've already won 

1096
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,000
that. 
So like now I've readjusted, now

1097
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:19,080
I want 60%. 
That seems great to me, right? 

1098
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,920
If we did, if he did 60% of the 
campaign promises like America 

1099
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,360
is in what way better shape? 
30% is a speed bump, 60% is 

1100
00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:29,280
actual change. 
We're 120 days in and we're like

1101
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,920
2030% to solution. 
I would agree with you. 

1102
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,920
Across the like the entire 
federal. 

1103
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,160
Government doge has been slowed 
down, obviously. 

1104
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:44,720
DOGDODOSDHS like Rubio's killing
it. 

1105
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,520
Yep. 
He's he's absolutely no, no beef

1106
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:48,600
there. 
Like I say, like I'm more than 

1107
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:50,280
happy to see wins where I can 
see wins. 

1108
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,280
I want wins or problem Childs 
national intelligence and 

1109
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,280
everything law enforcement 
related and those things are 

1110
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,200
unfortunately very intertwined. 
Well, that also is probably that

1111
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:02,760
is a problem. 
That's a really big problem. 

1112
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:04,800
And it was not something that 
cash was ignorant about when he 

1113
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,080
went in there. 
You know, I, I watched him do 

1114
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,840
podcast with Glenn Beck and some
others. 

1115
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,920
I think Sean Ryan, he's like, we
need to get the Intel component 

1116
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,680
away from the FBI. 
I've been saying that since I 

1117
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,760
went there. 
When I started working Intel in 

1118
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:23,200
what, 20, late 2016, early 2017,
I was like, this is a hammer 

1119
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:24,760
with a screwdriver welded on the
end of it. 

1120
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,200
It is clunky and awkward for 
either task. 

1121
00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600
It sucks at doing intelligence 
because you're, you're bound by 

1122
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,320
the Constitution, which you 
can't do. 

1123
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,560
I mean, you know that you can't 
do real Intel work and have 

1124
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:39,200
constitutional batteries and you
can't do Intel work and also be 

1125
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,600
a law enforcement agency. 
They're, they're incompatible. 

1126
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:43,600
Like they're antithetical to 
each other. 

1127
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,240
So if you put them in the same 
place, that's Mueller's legacy. 

1128
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,000
That's not, that's not even 
Comedy's fault. 

1129
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:49,520
You know, that's not even Ray's 
fault. 

1130
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:53,400
It's certainly not Cash's fault,
but to me the answer looks like 

1131
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,440
day #1 Tulsi Gabbard. 
You can have all my IAS and you 

1132
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:00,800
can have all the Intel analysts 
back. 

1133
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:03,480
Congratulations, you just got 
plussed up. 

1134
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,320
What's the mechanism that does 
that? 

1135
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:07,360
A. 
Couple of memorandums. 

1136
00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:10,840
Listen, here's the crazy thing. 
Every single Intel that's a 

1137
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,280
legislative thing. 
No, every single Intel person 

1138
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,600
currently and I can't remember 
what the actual code is, but I 

1139
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,720
my buddies are former Intel 
analysts. 

1140
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:22,960
They are all dual tasked. 
They are paid by the FBI, but 

1141
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,600
they are tasked out by ODNI. 
But dual, dual tasked does not 

1142
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:30,600
mean that that budget and that 
funding which comes from the 

1143
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:31,840
legislative body. 
I agree. 

1144
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,960
So like they have to go and pass
bills for the things that you 

1145
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,000
just said to happen. 
Well, they would have to pass 

1146
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
bills to make them formally, but
there can be a look. 

1147
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,280
The biggest problem in all of 
this? 

1148
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,440
Have you been loaned out from 
one? 

1149
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:43,880
Absolutely. 
So there's an MOU that. 

1150
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,360
Goes out a memorandum of 
understanding the problem. 

1151
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,760
It. 
Starts. 

1152
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:52,680
It doesn't and like the the lame
duck in this are the elected 

1153
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:55,960
people that have a vote and 
they're not doing shit. 

1154
00:51:56,120 --> 00:52:00,920
Agreed 100% agreement. 
There and and like they're 

1155
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:05,680
they're passing people by a 5149
margin and there's the home team

1156
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:10,560
who is leveraged, who is 
captured, who has been there for

1157
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:14,680
how many terms like we look no 
further than those elected 

1158
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:16,080
representatives. 
I agree. 

1159
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:19,120
We're in full agreement, Snack. 
We're like throwing darts at 

1160
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:24,000
people that are that the people 
that we we should really be 

1161
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:29,080
holding accountable are these 
elected bureaucrats, the elected

1162
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,040
politicians and embedded 
bureaucrats that are undermining

1163
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,880
as operatives against the people
that we're talking about. 

1164
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:39,720
But the people that we're 
talking about are the people 

1165
00:52:39,720 --> 00:52:42,520
that I trust. 
And they're so like, how do we 

1166
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,640
shift the conversation? 
And like, it's always going to 

1167
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
be like, you know, cash or or 
toll C like why aren't they 

1168
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,880
doing this? 
They can't until the power. 

1169
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,640
Can we put pressure on the 
elected representatives in a 

1170
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:56,160
meaningful way that you can 
think of? 

1171
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,720
Because, listen, I'm all about 
it. 

1172
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:01,120
Like that's what. 
I'm so much easier to blame the 

1173
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,840
the organization, the person at 
the head of the organization, 

1174
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,320
then it's the person that is 
responsible, which we need 

1175
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,960
legislative change and that's. 
No disagreement. 

1176
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:11,120
Yeah, these are these are band 
aids. 

1177
00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,640
I think they're, they're not 
solutions, but they are start 

1178
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,240
and it starts normalizing the 
culture of listen, you don't 

1179
00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:18,960
want Intel people. 
If you had a, if you had an 

1180
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,960
Intel person that was thrown out
on your team and, and you're not

1181
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,840
thrown out already because 
they're not fit and they don't 

1182
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,800
have the ability to keep up. 
And now they're going to be 

1183
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,960
embedded. 
They're going to like hang out 

1184
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:30,560
with you and you're like, OK, 
can you do some analysis? 

1185
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:32,520
We're going to go into this 
location. 

1186
00:53:32,520 --> 00:53:34,400
So I need some like, I need some
map analysis. 

1187
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:36,560
We need some sagging from the 
area, like whatever the human it

1188
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:37,840
is. 
Can you do an analysis and give 

1189
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,280
us like some right, Like tell us
what's going on in the area. 

1190
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:41,960
Fine, give me some area 
awareness. 

1191
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,520
And that person goes, Oh, I 
don't, I don't do missions. 

1192
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,440
I don't do, I don't, I don't 
work cases. 

1193
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:51,080
Kyle, that's an actual 
conversation that I had. 

1194
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:55,440
I had a Chinese, ethnically 
Chinese American citizen person 

1195
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,360
that I leaned over and said, 
hey, can you tell me what this 

1196
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,680
is about? 
And she says, well, I can 

1197
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,560
understand Chinese audibly, but 
I can't read it. 

1198
00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:05,720
Meanwhile, everything I do is 
written in Chinese. 

1199
00:54:05,720 --> 00:54:07,680
So I'm like relying on the 
bureau's version of Google 

1200
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,800
Translate. 
And I go, fine, can you explain 

1201
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,520
to me what the context is here? 
And she looked at me, I rolled 

1202
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:16,280
and said I don't work cases. 
And that's the standard. 

1203
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Now these people can all go to 
OD and I because they can get an

1204
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,200
FBI paycheck and not be in the 
building. 

1205
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,040
And, and part of the part of the
thing. 

1206
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,560
And this is like any company. 
If you go into a company where 

1207
00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,160
let's say 1/3 of the people 
there are on a different mission

1208
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:32,200
than what the people in the 
company are doing, aren't you in

1209
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:33,280
trouble? 
Like it like that changes 

1210
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:34,800
culture, that changes the way 
that things work. 

1211
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,360
It changes the way people talk 
and they interact and it changes

1212
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,640
the mindset. 
If everybody around me is 

1213
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,240
interested in writing a term 
paper and they're mad that Kyle 

1214
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,080
Rittenhouse got off because 
because a jury said that it was 

1215
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:46,880
self-defense. 
These are real conversations 

1216
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,160
that I've really had. 
You know, then you're like, 

1217
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:52,080
that's an uphill battle that I'm
willing to have a Band-Aid on 

1218
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:53,320
it. 
I'm willing to put those people 

1219
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,280
somewhere else. 
Like for me 'cause I. 

1220
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,800
I don't think they have time to 
put band aids on things 'cause 

1221
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,760
they're still dealing with 
significant hemorrhaging of 

1222
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:06,040
triage of big. 
What are the Yeah, What are 

1223
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,360
those things, though? 
Like what's bigger than 

1224
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:15,280
personnel in this case? 
Do you think keeping that House 

1225
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:23,040
of Cards together because the 
consequence of it falling down 

1226
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:28,920
is the opportunity and we, we, 
we are at war with a, a few of 

1227
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,120
our peer level adversaries and 
those peer level adversaries are

1228
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:41,520
waiting with operatives for the 
opportunity to destabilize. 

1229
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,200
They all they want is 
destabilization. 

1230
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,920
We want security, we want 
stability would give us the free

1231
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,600
market opportunity. 
The the beautiful thing that is 

1232
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,920
democracy to thrive. 
That can't happen when there's 

1233
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,560
instability, which is why 
they're trying to destabilize 

1234
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:58,040
all of our allies. 
This is why Eastern Europe is a 

1235
00:55:58,040 --> 00:55:59,480
mess. 
This is why the border was a 

1236
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,320
mess. 
This is why the whole entire 

1237
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,880
Middle East is a forever mess. 
They want that. 

1238
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,120
That's what Iran wants, that 
what China wants. 

1239
00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:12,080
That's what Russia wants. 
And so I, I think that first 

1240
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,880
priority is like, OK, I have to 
keep the ship afloat while I'm 

1241
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:19,320
repairing it in route to the 
destination, which is the 

1242
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:22,560
outcome of a 60% solution that 
you and I would be happy with. 

1243
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:26,920
But they're patching massive 
holes while that ship is going 

1244
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,640
and. 
I think the, the addition to 

1245
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,560
that, that analogy though, is 
that they're getting the peep 

1246
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:33,760
because they're not physically 
patching the holes, right? 

1247
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,400
I mean, they're delegating that 
that's, you're giving, you're 

1248
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,840
giving task and purpose and 
you're giving motivation and 

1249
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:40,520
vision. 
And then somebody else is going 

1250
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,680
to go out there and, and they're
going to actually enact that 

1251
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:46,680
mission and they're giving it to
people that are like, OK, I'm 

1252
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,760
going to stab you in the back 
here because you haven't, they 

1253
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:49,760
didn't, they haven't been 
vetted. 

1254
00:56:50,120 --> 00:56:52,440
And that's the, and so look, 
there was I, I made an argument 

1255
00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:56,640
that there's a, an advantage to 
a deputy director that is not an

1256
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,280
FBI person. 
It's a really, really small 

1257
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,160
advantage. 
Possibly it's like a maybe 

1258
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:03,840
advantage. 
OK, the FBI director always 

1259
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:05,720
comes in is not an FBI person. 
So that's fine. 

1260
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:06,920
No big deal. 
That's what you want. 

1261
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,200
You want somebody from the 
outside vision understands 

1262
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:10,920
constitutional principles. 
Good to go. 

1263
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,000
I'm I'm with that. 
A deputy. 

1264
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,760
There's only one possibility 
that you bring in a deputy that 

1265
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,360
doesn't have a connection to the
FBI and doesn't know like what 

1266
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:22,360
all the things doesn't know what
DTOS is, doesn't know what Itos 

1267
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,000
is, doesn't know, you know, 
where these little missions, you

1268
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,720
know, and and and and 
boondoggles are because there's 

1269
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,680
a lot of boondoggles in the 
Bureau. 

1270
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,960
And the only advantage to having
that person is that they're 

1271
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,320
going to come in and Wrecking 
Ball. 

1272
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:37,800
No loyalty to anybody. 
The danger is that person says, 

1273
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,400
I don't know what I don't know. 
And in order to know what I need

1274
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,520
to know, I've got to ask people 
that I haven't been able to vet 

1275
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,280
because I have no one to trust. 
I don't know who to trust. 

1276
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,600
And then you're in a real bad 
spot where you're basically 

1277
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,280
leaning on people that there's 
no you. 

1278
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:52,120
You in the case of Dan Bongino, 
he spent eight years rally 

1279
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,680
against them not being 
trustworthy. 

1280
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,040
And now he's got to go in there,
not only trust them, he's going 

1281
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,720
to have to defend them publicly,
which is catastrophic for 

1282
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,440
people's confidence. 
I watched him do it this morning

1283
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:07,560
and I went like, I don't want 
him to be in that position. 

1284
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:09,600
You know, I can take cheap 
shots. 

1285
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:10,600
I don't think they're cheap 
shots. 

1286
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,720
I'm, I'm like, I literally do 
not want you in a scenario where

1287
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,200
you have to trust people that 
you have no business trusting 

1288
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:19,720
where you are going to have to 
rely on on Intel with, with 

1289
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,360
hope, because that's, that's, 
you know, hope is a terrible 

1290
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,120
plan. 
It is it, it, it's the worst 

1291
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:28,560
case scenario. 
And so the only upside, the only

1292
00:58:28,560 --> 00:58:31,720
way that I see this working 
again, the local tour guide, you

1293
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,400
find somebody that's been on the
other end of it. 

1294
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,040
Like the upside of a Tulsi 
Gabbard is that she had a 

1295
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:37,280
weaponized government come after
her. 

1296
00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,000
I think we mentioned it 
yesterday, right? 

1297
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:43,280
She got surveilled by the air 
marshals, proven factually 

1298
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,080
accurate, like whistleblowers 
and documents to back it up. 

1299
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,520
I was surveilled by those same 
air marshals I had. 

1300
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:51,640
I ran it by one of my my friends
who's an air Marshall. 

1301
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,400
She was like 100%. 
She goes on a on a scale of one 

1302
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,840
to 10, you're an 11 getting 
watched and like iid who the 

1303
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,560
guys were, you've done, you 
know, counter surveillance. 

1304
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,640
You know how to pick those guys 
up. 

1305
00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:03,680
When you do surveillance for a 
living, you can find your your 

1306
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,520
tail. 
It's not that hard, especially 

1307
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,720
if they aren't expected to look 
for you. 

1308
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:09,040
So I found three. 
I found two guys. 

1309
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,520
I thought it was possibly 3, but
I saw at least the two that were

1310
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,760
following me into the airport 
when I flew to move my household

1311
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,760
goods out of New Mexico. 
And so when you've been on the 

1312
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:18,760
end of it, and I think that's 
the upside of looking at Tulsi 

1313
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:19,840
Gabbard. 
I was always kind of on the 

1314
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,400
fence with her just because I 
don't know her personally. 

1315
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,920
And I'm like, she's incredible. 
She went from guns are bad and K

1316
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,920
to like, I'm in the tactical 
games and I'm like, and then I 

1317
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,560
read her thing. 
I like she put out a sub stack 

1318
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:31,360
and I'm like, I get it, I get 
it. 

1319
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:34,000
You're allowed to have a growth 
moment and and I'm you know. 

1320
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,560
My my favorite part about all of
that transformation was the the 

1321
00:59:37,560 --> 00:59:39,120
transparency and vulnerability 
of it. 

1322
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:42,880
Yeah, it's hard to walk away 
from like a whole camp of people

1323
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,480
that supported you and say 
you're all wrong. 

1324
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,680
And they, they tried to bankrupt
her campaign. 

1325
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:52,480
They, the government as a whole 
obviously weaponized and then 

1326
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,840
attacked her. 
You know, the she ended Kamala's

1327
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,160
first run. 
And since then, yeah. 

1328
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,520
With one sort of like sound 
bite. 

1329
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:01,880
Yeah, devastating. 
So she. 

1330
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,960
She has been like enemy number 
one for a really, really long 

1331
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,280
time. 
And, and it wasn't because they 

1332
01:00:07,280 --> 01:00:10,640
had attacked her that this 
revelation happened. 

1333
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:15,960
I, I really think that she 
through learned ad you know 

1334
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:18,880
what, what are the catalysts of 
change, pain, adversity, 

1335
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,640
challenges. 
So she faced some significant 

1336
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,720
ones and then it transformed who
she was. 

1337
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:26,520
And ultimately we have what what
is a remarkably different person

1338
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:29,480
than from 10 years ago, a woman 
that loves the Constitution that

1339
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:32,120
swore to protect the 
Constitution that is now has 

1340
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,040
been the victim of weaponized 
government from the intelligence

1341
01:00:35,040 --> 01:00:36,760
community and from the 
Department of Justice and from 

1342
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:37,960
the Department of Homeland 
Security. 

1343
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,520
And now she's like, she's on a 
roll. 

1344
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:41,440
Let's look at RFK the exact 
same. 

1345
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,040
And I think if we we look at 
Bongino and we look at Patel, 

1346
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,560
you see also guys that were 
attacked post last so when they 

1347
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,800
were in the 16 to 20 
administration or not Bongino, 

1348
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:58,120
but cash the you, you, you, you,
you see a man that like when we 

1349
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:01,320
first got to the the special 
forces teams, I'd see these guys

1350
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:03,880
with Gray hair, the Gray, the 
Gray hair operators. 

1351
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:08,160
Yeah, like these guys are so old
and they're so useless, you 

1352
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,080
know, like the no. 
Those are the most dangerous 

1353
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:14,440
guys in the room. 
And to me, they lived through 

1354
01:01:15,360 --> 01:01:18,120
some highs and then man, they 
experienced some serious lows 

1355
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,840
where they're being attacked. 
Now they're back in positions 

1356
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:27,040
with 810 years of being Public 
Enemy number one from camps of 

1357
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,320
the people that they are 
currently representing and 

1358
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:35,440
advising and directing as 
superiors, as directors and as 

1359
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,280
secretaries. 
Yeah, like. 

1360
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,560
How do you do? 
This you have to do it with 

1361
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,040
unbelievable skepticism. 
You can't trust anybody. 

1362
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:47,920
Yeah. 
So the only way you do it is you

1363
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,120
get other people that have had 
the same kind of experience of. 

1364
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,560
So you, you mentioned something 
about Tulsi Gabbard that I think

1365
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,440
it resonates strongly with me. 
When you first swear the oath to

1366
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:57,760
the Constitution. 
How many times you. 

1367
01:01:57,760 --> 01:01:58,440
You. 
Sworn in? 

1368
01:01:58,440 --> 01:01:59,920
I don't know. 
Over and over again. 

1369
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:01,080
Right. 
Yeah, a couple dozen. 

1370
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:04,600
And you swear in and you're 
like, are you, what are you 

1371
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,800
swearing to? 
Like, what are, what are you 

1372
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:07,080
saying that you're going to 
defend? 

1373
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,360
What does that thing mean? 
Cause 'cause the Constitution is

1374
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:11,120
an abstract. 
And I would say most enlisted 

1375
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:13,000
people have probably not even 
read the constitution. 

1376
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Just being around enlisted, you 
know guys the. 

1377
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:17,080
One in my truck. 
I got one in my shop, I got one 

1378
01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:18,600
in my 1. 
In my gun bag whenever I took it

1379
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,880
on a trip like it went with me 
when I when I went on TD wise as

1380
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,920
a as an agent and like I 
obviously, but I don't think I 

1381
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:29,200
really appreciated it in until 
sometime when I was actually 

1382
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:32,480
doing the job when I realized 
that as an as a a law 

1383
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:34,040
enforcement guy. 
And I think it's different from 

1384
01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:35,960
the military. 
But in the law enforcement 

1385
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:38,600
context, your oath to the 
Constitution is really to the 

1386
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,720
Bill of Rights because you 
represent the ability to 

1387
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,400
infringe on all the things. 
That's what you are. 

1388
01:02:44,400 --> 01:02:46,960
You are like the long arm of the
law ready to reach in take 

1389
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,000
people's freedom, take their 
privacy right. 

1390
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:52,600
So your job as a as a sworn law 
enforcement person, and that 

1391
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,400
happens at every level, state, 
federal, local, doesn't matter. 

1392
01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:58,280
You're saying I will protect 
freedom of speech. 

1393
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:00,840
I will recognize that it's 
God-given and that the 

1394
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:02,920
government has a limit and 
therefore I will limit myself 

1395
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,760
and my peers, right. 
And and then I limit. 

1396
01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:09,160
Myself and my peers, it's not 
something the bureau's been very

1397
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:09,680
good at. 
No, they're. 

1398
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:11,240
Terrible at it. 
Like that's the whole problem. 

1399
01:03:11,240 --> 01:03:13,520
So you're surrounded by those 
guys and then you've got people 

1400
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,240
that have been talking about it 
understand the danger. 

1401
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:16,640
I think a Tulsi Gabbard probably
gets it. 

1402
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,280
And the DoD side of things. 
I think your job is that you are

1403
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:22,560
protecting the Article 1 powers 
of Congress to go out there and 

1404
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,560
do their job. 
You're protecting the Article 2 

1405
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,880
powers of the executive to do 
that job. 

1406
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:28,960
You're making sure that no 
foreign enemy comes in and 

1407
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,800
subverts the the, the meat of 
the Constitution that runs the 

1408
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:33,880
government. 
So you're the outward sort of 

1409
01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,720
sword and shield. 
The inside animal is. 

1410
01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,280
There's this. 
Government to include foreign 

1411
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,600
and domestic. 
It is, I think people are more 

1412
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:45,320
and more aware that the domestic
end of it means holding those 

1413
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:48,200
accountable that have decided to
subvert those authorities. 

1414
01:03:48,320 --> 01:03:51,360
Like we, we've seen examples in 
the last couple years of, of DoD

1415
01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:54,840
like, and, and any other like 
DOJ, like they're running the 

1416
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:56,120
show. 
You got people. 

1417
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,920
And that's the whole concept of 
the D state, is it not? 

1418
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:01,920
I mean, that's people that said,
well, I outlast presidents, I'm 

1419
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:04,440
going to be here and they're 
not, so I'm going to do whatever

1420
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,520
I want. 
And by the way, I know better. 

1421
01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,800
And they probably think they do,
and sometimes they probably 

1422
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,440
actually do. 
But that's not what our country 

1423
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:17,720
is about. 
In the DoD facing inward, there 

1424
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,640
should be a last resort, 
absolutely. 

1425
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:23,760
But currently on Title 10 orders
here in Texas, we we see them 

1426
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,200
protecting our sovereign 
borders. 

1427
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:31,480
We, we, we, we have legitimate 
military missions that are 

1428
01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,960
approved with Title 10 funds. 
Which, where does Title 10 money

1429
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,600
come from? 
Congress. 

1430
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:40,160
Congress, you know, yet again, 
like you've, you've, you fall 

1431
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,680
responsibility back to like you.
You want to see legislative 

1432
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,600
change, you're going to have to 
look to Congress for that to 

1433
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,360
happen. 
I'd like to see Congress take 

1434
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,400
back their power and be the be 
the the pre eminent branch of 

1435
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,000
our government. 
That must be equally balanced 

1436
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,080
between the three. 
Well, look at the order they put

1437
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:56,040
them in. 
And they didn't do it on 

1438
01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:58,360
accident. 
You know, the judiciary was 

1439
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,200
anemic on purpose. 
It's a referee. 

1440
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:02,960
The executive is the one that 
pulls out and, and, and executes

1441
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,200
the plans thereof and has some 
like real strong authorities 

1442
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:06,680
outside the country. 
But at the end of the day, 

1443
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,360
power, the purse is the ultimate
funding mechanism. 

1444
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:11,920
And like that's the animal. 
So my, my contention is that 

1445
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,080
that Congress is supposed to be 
the pre eminent branch. 

1446
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:16,600
And that's the way that they 
they drafted it knowing that and

1447
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:18,400
that the executive was never 
supposed to have that authority.

1448
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,600
They just threw a king off. 
Like it wasn't like they were 

1449
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:22,120
looking to make another king, 
right? 

1450
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,360
Yeah, but they they were scared 
of the bureaucrats that existed 

1451
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:30,080
in England, the Whigs. 
So that that balance in the 

1452
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:33,160
check in balances from our 
Supreme Court and our executive 

1453
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,800
branch to the legislative 
branch, the all all of them were

1454
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:38,880
supposed to have again levers. 
They had levers against each 

1455
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:39,800
other. 
But I don't know that they were 

1456
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,000
Co equal person. 
I think that we get we got 

1457
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,960
taught that as a kid and I don't
think that's necessarily true 

1458
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:45,600
because some of them are 
stronger. 

1459
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,720
But what I do think is that. 
We have lost the power that 

1460
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,920
Congress supposed to have. 
Like they gave a lot of it away.

1461
01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,600
If you've ever seen what 
executive agencies can do, you 

1462
01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:58,200
can't have a deep state unless 
they have Chevron doctrine, 

1463
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,680
which we just got reversed. 
Like that was a big win. 

1464
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:03,000
Like that was a big deal. 
And then we also had, we have 

1465
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,160
the last sort of ugly piece 
there is the Administrative 

1466
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:09,240
Procedures Act, which is what 
the ATF uses to a weaponized 

1467
01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,120
fashion. 
They write their opinion and 

1468
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,040
decide that that's law and they 
let you comment on it so. 

1469
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,320
If there's a policy, your 
suppressor has to be, you know, 

1470
01:06:17,320 --> 01:06:19,160
going going through this form 
and has to pass. 

1471
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,040
And by the way, if you happen to
own a lathe now, you own the 

1472
01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:24,280
means to build a suppressor. 
So the lathe is also a 

1473
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:27,440
suppressor because we just made 
it up like they're abolish, 

1474
01:06:27,640 --> 01:06:29,560
abolish. 
They're like back to a Polish. 

1475
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,120
Yeah, I'm, I'm I. 
Got to get, I got to get kids 

1476
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:33,840
from school, not to or get kids 
to their practices and not too 

1477
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:34,240
long. 
Yeah. 

1478
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:35,600
All right. 
So give me give me a give me a 

1479
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,440
wrap up summation. 
Are you do you think is the 

1480
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:40,640
answer more time? 
Is that? 

1481
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,320
Is that your your current? 
Position I want non-stop 

1482
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:52,240
pressure from the collective of 
I think we have a bunch of 

1483
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,920
people that are like yeah, 
November was awesome. 

1484
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:59,040
Let's count that as a win. 
We do and I was like you're 

1485
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:01,440
insane. 
We are in the middle of a fight 

1486
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:05,920
right now and I don't know which
way the the weight is going. 

1487
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,200
That coin is flying in the air 
and unless we have a bunch of 

1488
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,920
people with the pressure that 
made the election November have 

1489
01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:14,720
the outcome that it had. 
If those people don't start 

1490
01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:20,080
participating, the the election 
process happened, but the, the 

1491
01:07:20,080 --> 01:07:22,800
implementation of what the 
election about is currently 

1492
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:28,400
going on and that constant 
pressure, holding people 

1493
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,360
accountable, getting 
confirmations approved, getting 

1494
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:35,760
their representatives to be 
fighting for bills that are like

1495
01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:37,680
the, the big beautiful bill 
there. 

1496
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,720
There's elements in there that 
every single constitutionalist 

1497
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:41,920
should be like, Oh my God, I'm 
going to fight for this. 

1498
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,160
I'm going to be calling for them
not to get this portion cut out 

1499
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,040
of it. 
But nobody read it. 

1500
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:45,720
Nobody cared. 
Yeah. 

1501
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:51,480
Where's my short act? 
And so like this, there's no 

1502
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,440
greater insult than 
indifference. 

1503
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,240
And I, I, I think a lot of 
people now are currently 

1504
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,600
indifferent to, to what what's 
happening. 

1505
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:02,200
So I want them to come back to 
the table and start pressuring 

1506
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,080
significant. 
And that can be directors and 

1507
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,800
that can be secretaries, but 
that can also be elected 

1508
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:12,880
officials. 
And, and the patriot, the like, 

1509
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:18,600
which is funny that that became 
a like a, a negative insult for 

1510
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,120
a group of people. 
We're like, oh, he's a patriot. 

1511
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:22,359
Oh, you mean he's a make a 
person? 

1512
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:25,520
No, no, he's a patriot. 
And he's fighting for this 

1513
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,880
beautiful country, the most 
beautiful thing that's existed 

1514
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:32,279
in in the course of humanity. 
I need them back and I and I 

1515
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:35,640
need them to continue to support
and fight the people that the 

1516
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,600
president that was elected, 
appointed and got confirmed in 

1517
01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,880
these positions and then start 
supporting these people to get 

1518
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,279
to the end state that we so 
desperately want. 

1519
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:49,479
But if if we are attacking, if 
we are not, there's nothing 

1520
01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:51,479
wrong withholding somebody 
accountable, making sure that 

1521
01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:53,479
our expectations are under 
understood and heard. 

1522
01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:59,840
But I still have faith that this
cabinet is fighting with the 

1523
01:09:00,160 --> 01:09:04,399
with the best interests of what 
the president wanted and his 

1524
01:09:04,399 --> 01:09:08,439
vision and his values are still 
being fought for. 

1525
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,040
And we have some wins, but 
nowhere near the wins that we 

1526
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:16,560
want and. 
What's your degree of confidence

1527
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:20,120
that we've got? 
What's your degree of confidence

1528
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,160
that they're going to be able to
achieve where we're at? 

1529
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,960
And Intel people, they always 
give me like the high, medium, 

1530
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,720
low, you know, some some degree 
in there, I don't know, scale of

1531
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:28,359
one to five. 
Where? 

1532
01:09:28,439 --> 01:09:31,760
Where are you feeling like your 
confidence sits based on having 

1533
01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:33,439
a lot more personal access to 
some of these folks? 

1534
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:37,680
I just, they're just not going 
to quit. 

1535
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,279
Like you had to kill President 
Trump. 

1536
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,080
You had to, Yeah. 
I agree with that and they 

1537
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:45,920
tried. 
They did. 

1538
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,080
Like JD Vance, bro, you're going
to have to kill that guy. 

1539
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:52,439
Like that guy's never going to 
quit. 

1540
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:56,160
The, the, the dude survived. 
Like poverty that nobody's going

1541
01:09:56,160 --> 01:09:58,880
to understand, abuse that 
nobody's going to understand. 

1542
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,200
And you know. 
That's been completely written 

1543
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:02,160
off. 
They act like he's like this 

1544
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,840
elite guy, and then you hear him
tell a story about how he didn't

1545
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:08,800
how to pronounce like Chardonnay
and he tried to order some wine 

1546
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,240
that he thought he could 
pronounce because he was 

1547
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:11,480
surrounded. 
He was completely outclassed 

1548
01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:13,040
like that. 
That that is lost on people on 

1549
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:14,920
the left who somehow should be 
celebrating that. 

1550
01:10:15,520 --> 01:10:19,880
But they're not no, you're going
to have to kill Tulsi because 

1551
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,720
that girl's going to fight today
as she dies like egg Seth, the 

1552
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:27,960
the dude's a gem And and I, I 
think the Cashes and the 

1553
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:30,600
Bongino's and like, you'll have 
to kill RFK. 

1554
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:32,440
You're going to have to because 
that guy's going to keep 

1555
01:10:32,440 --> 01:10:33,760
fighting. 
He's been doing it his whole 

1556
01:10:33,760 --> 01:10:36,680
life. 
And then he was despised and 

1557
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,560
betrayed by his own party and 
his family. 

1558
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,240
And they, and they wouldn't give
him a security detail, which 

1559
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,600
I'm, I'm hearing the same thing 
about Tulsi at the moment that 

1560
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:46,360
they're not given a security 
detail there. 

1561
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,760
And there's been this ongoing 
fight. 

1562
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,720
So it's like so, but again, 
these are inside these agencies 

1563
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,640
that we're supposed to like, how
do you trust people if the 

1564
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,680
entire agency is not even going 
to do like their job of, of, of,

1565
01:10:57,720 --> 01:10:59,640
of providing A protective 
detail? 

1566
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,120
I also thought that we were 
getting a tough guy in a deputy 

1567
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,040
director and he didn't need a 
protective detail because 

1568
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,480
they've never had one before. 
I get like, you don't roll 

1569
01:11:07,480 --> 01:11:09,120
around with the detail. 
You got a high profile. 

1570
01:11:09,960 --> 01:11:11,840
I mean, you're broke. 
You're more of a killer than 

1571
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:13,400
than Dan is probably. 
I don't know. 

1572
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:15,960
He, he scares me sometimes. 
You know when he leans in with 

1573
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,160
that big forehead, I'm like. 
Dude, I have a lot of forehead 

1574
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:20,840
but you know what he he told me 
something he said one time he 

1575
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,680
was like when I go to the gym I 
always carry like 3 guns and I 

1576
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:25,720
was like that doesn't make any 
sense. 

1577
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,240
That's too many guns. 
You, you should just have 

1578
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,400
magazines, man. 
You should hold on to your gun, 

1579
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,080
whatever that is. 
Maybe he's got that New York 

1580
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:36,560
reload mentality. 
Yeah, yeah, I'll be back in DC 

1581
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,120
in in a couple of weeks for the 
Army birthday. 

1582
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,520
And how old would the Army be? 
The Army will be 250 years old. 

1583
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:43,840
Same as our country? 
Yep. 

1584
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:50,280
And the Army, yeah, that that 
week, Sergeant Major, the Army, 

1585
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:56,400
who's he's a, he's a Gray beard,
long in the tooth, A7 Special 

1586
01:11:56,400 --> 01:11:58,080
forces group. 
Guy went to the unit. 

1587
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:00,760
Still, still counts. 
Yeah, he went to the unit then 

1588
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,320
then went to the unit. 
It's like extra counts and like 

1589
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:08,040
arguably one of the greatest 
leaders of this type of the 

1590
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,920
entire global War on Terror. 
Like the dude is just like, I'd 

1591
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:14,200
follow him to the gates of hell.
He's not young. 

1592
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:18,720
He's going to be like out on the
mall lawn doing the new Army PT 

1593
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:23,840
test in in his 50s because he 
leads from the front. 

1594
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,320
That's how you do it. 
That is how you do it. 

1595
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:28,480
And I I think that is a that is 
a fair representation across 

1596
01:12:28,520 --> 01:12:31,560
just like we see secretary Haig 
Seth working out with dudes in 

1597
01:12:31,560 --> 01:12:33,800
the morning. 
You know, we we see Dakota 

1598
01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,520
Meyer, Medal of Honor recipient 
who's who's a local like re 

1599
01:12:36,520 --> 01:12:37,960
enlisting. 
Is he local here? 

1600
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:39,800
He is I'll. 
I'll absolutely. 

1601
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:42,320
Get dude I I met I met him once 
at I met him at SHOT Show two 

1602
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,600
years ago. 
I actually saw you stand up on a

1603
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:46,280
chair and give a big speech due 
to gem and and bar at the same 

1604
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,360
time. 
Yes, he always seemed like a he 

1605
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:48,680
is. 
He's. 

1606
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,680
The real deal, yeah, and. 
Like a regular person. 100% and 

1607
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:57,800
and and going back in in his 
late 30s to do not easy stuff 

1608
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,800
like he didn't like do this to 
get a moment of fame like he did

1609
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,240
it because he. 
Believed he enlisted, didn't he?

1610
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:05,480
Like what ranked his original 
rank? 

1611
01:13:05,480 --> 01:13:06,480
Which was what? 
E4. 

1612
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:10,160
The E5E5? 
Yeah, not the 30s no. 

1613
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:13,480
I got out of my 30s as an E3 so 
just you know, so. 

1614
01:13:14,480 --> 01:13:16,680
I I just looked like all of this
awesome. 

1615
01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,480
And not that that's the cross 
section, not that that's but 

1616
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,520
like that's what I'm looking to 
is all of they're still doing 

1617
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,640
the work and they are going to 
do it until they like, like I 

1618
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,720
said, you'll have to kill them 
to stop them. 

1619
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,360
And that's why I have faith to I
know that was a really long 

1620
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:33,960
answer to a really simple 
question. 

1621
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,360
I don't have like a high, 
medium, low. 

1622
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,160
No, it's not a short answer, 
it's the thing. 

1623
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,360
And that gives me the confidence
and hope. 

1624
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,800
I know hope's not a plan that 
they're going to keep on 

1625
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:45,800
fighting. 
And if I'm useful, I'm going to 

1626
01:13:45,800 --> 01:13:50,480
keep fighting like I, I want the
power to be back to the family 

1627
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:52,280
and be back to the state to be 
back. 

1628
01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:55,960
It's like we're just going to 
keep on keeping on until you 

1629
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:58,320
kill us. 
It may come to that. 

1630
01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:00,960
Like I keep ways somebody said 
that's a fed statement. 

1631
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:02,480
I'm like, no, no, that's just 
reality, man. 

1632
01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:04,840
I, I watched what this country 
rolled over for. 

1633
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,120
We saw it like we saw it in our 
lifetime. 

1634
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:08,280
That's not something people have
been able. 

1635
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:09,520
To say from grateful that we did
though. 

1636
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,480
Me too, I remember. 
I think that's one of God's 

1637
01:14:11,480 --> 01:14:12,640
biggest gifts. 
How did? 

1638
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:16,080
That little girl that was hiding
in the attic and how were her? 

1639
01:14:16,360 --> 01:14:19,760
How are the neighbors going to 
betray a little girl that was 

1640
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,120
writing in her diary during 
World War 2? 

1641
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,400
And then I saw it in the United 
States in 2020-2021 and 2022. 

1642
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,680
Everybody who understood what 
the story was that was happening

1643
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:33,240
at the time all drew analogies 
directly back to what people 

1644
01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:34,600
were willing to do. 
This is the story of ordinary 

1645
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,360
men, right? 
So you can read the book or you 

1646
01:14:36,360 --> 01:14:39,360
can just know that like ordinary
men will follow orders because 

1647
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,200
it's convenient, because they 
have a paycheck, because they 

1648
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:43,560
have a pension, because they are
not trying to upset their apple 

1649
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,240
cart and their life. 
And you know, I'll just, we'll 

1650
01:14:46,240 --> 01:14:48,720
just kill people because why 
would we stand up for something 

1651
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,320
and have to maybe find a new 
job? 

1652
01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:52,440
And, and a lot of people did 
that. 

1653
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,280
But it did reveal a couple 
things. 

1654
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:57,720
One, we saw who the diamonds in 
the rough are. 

1655
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,760
Like we immediately revealed 
like all the sand and saw what 

1656
01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,640
was underneath. 
So you saw some treasure. 

1657
01:15:03,120 --> 01:15:06,760
We also got to see the rules got
changed while we were watching 

1658
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:07,840
them. 
It's one thing to think that 

1659
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:09,640
someone's like scamming you. 
It's another thing to see 

1660
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,560
someone scam you and do the 
sleight of hand. 

1661
01:15:11,880 --> 01:15:15,080
And we watched that that that 
goal post move like in real 

1662
01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:17,520
time. 
I, I love that I got to see how 

1663
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,440
they did it because now I know 
their moves. 

1664
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,280
Like I can't wait for them to 
try it again. 

1665
01:15:22,480 --> 01:15:25,360
Because all of us that were 
paying attention, like I, I saw 

1666
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:29,600
how you did this and you ever 
try this again, We're coming 

1667
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,280
after you. 
I told people you got to draw a 

1668
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,480
line in the sand, know what it 
is and never give any ground on 

1669
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,560
it ever again. 
Like you just we're at the back,

1670
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:37,800
our backs are whatever it is, 
whatever the bag is probably 

1671
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:38,880
like a like a hole in the 
ground. 

1672
01:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,240
So that's what they'll shoot us 
into. 

1673
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:42,680
You're a gem, Kyle. 
I appreciate you coming on 

1674
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:44,960
we'll. 
We've got a lot to talk about, I

1675
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,920
think I. 
Think we do and I'm looking 

1676
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,800
forward to I want to know next 
time and I'll tell you this will

1677
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:50,320
give you something to think as 
you leave the door. 

1678
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:54,200
When are you going to start? 
When would you start getting 

1679
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,600
concerned that we need to start 
pushing different types of 

1680
01:15:56,600 --> 01:15:58,080
pressure? 
So oh, good question something. 

1681
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,960
To chew on something to think 
about that's not a light 

1682
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,280
question. 
So I'll have you do that. 

1683
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,840
And yeah, that's where we're 
going to end it for today. 

1684
01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:06,640
Awesome. 
Tim Kennedy, you want to tell 

1685
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,440
people where the best? 
Would you like people to follow 

1686
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:11,320
you? 
God I hate social media. 

1687
01:16:11,480 --> 01:16:14,160
It's awful, but it's necessary. 
So where do people communicate 

1688
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:16,200
with? 
You at Tim Kennedy MMA across 

1689
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,360
the social channels, it's 
verified because there I think 

1690
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:24,520
like, yes, yesterday there's two
or three hundred of them, yeah, 

1691
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:29,600
and and anyways, yeah, at Tim 
Kennedy MMA verified accounts. 

1692
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,400
Do you have open crazy contact 
where people can reach out to 

1693
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:34,760
you and too or no? 
Not really. 

1694
01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:36,600
I mean, like on, on, on the less
mental illness. 

1695
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:39,720
Yeah, yeah. 
All right, well if you listen to

1696
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:41,960
this and you have a mental 
illness, post it under Tim's 

1697
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:44,160
handles wherever and tag me to 
so I can see it. 

1698
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:46,440
Appreciate you dude. 
All right, bud. 

1699
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,880
Thanks. 
And you have been listening to 

1700
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:52,440
the Sunday Sit down on the Kyle 
Seraphin Show with Tim Kennedy. 

1701
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:55,400
Love him or hate him, there's a 
lot of people that feel very 

1702
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:58,000
strongly about him. 
Tim is always welcome back at my

1703
01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,160
house. 
Like I said, it started off with

1704
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:00,320
a handshake, it ended with a 
hug. 

1705
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:03,880
And within 90 seconds of the man
being inside the doors of my 

1706
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:06,800
home, stripped down to Ranger 
panties, was changing it to 

1707
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:09,600
something comfortable as a man 
who is comfortable in all 

1708
01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:11,680
environments, including here. 
And so I was really happy to 

1709
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:13,040
host him. 
I hope you guys enjoyed that. 

1710
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,840
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1711
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:17,280
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1712
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1716
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1735
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1738
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1739
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1741
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,560
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1742
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,600
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