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Prepare to hear the truth from a
real whistleblower, an American 

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Patriot, here's civil liberties,
enthusiasts, Second Amendment, 

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Defender and indefinitely 
suspended. 

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FBI agent. 
Kyle seraphin. 

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Hello my friends and welcome to 
the Kyle Serafin show for 

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Friday. 
The 31st of March, it is the end

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of March, finally, and the 
seraphin family is on the road 

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and we've got the cows are up 
and show on the road with us. 

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So I sent the boys a picture of 
what this looks like. 

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I've got to spendable. 
Steve with me. 

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So he's going to be Weighing in,
he brought us some brand news, 

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brand new news, new news that's 
being broken this morning. 

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It will be out on his Twitter 
feed and will be retweeting it 

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so you can go look for that. 
Well, you'll get out your fresh 

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taste of it and our reactions to
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A lot of weird stuff going on 
this week. 

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Hopefully you got a chance to 
listen to our very long 3. 

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Plus our interview with Steve 
Baker, I only talk to people, 

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they have Steve these days. 
I guess. 

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I don't know why that is, but I 
got a lot of Steve's in my 

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Orbit. 
Steve, thanks for joining me. 

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Other Steve Many states were 
working the same microphone 

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today. 
Yeah man. 

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I kind of feel like my tech 
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yesterday's technology today. 
That's very Bureau of you People

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don't know that. 
That's the, that's the motto of 

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the FBI's. 
It Department, it's yesterday's 

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technology tomorrow. 
So you're doing it today. 

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I guess you're actually ahead of
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Yeah, I'm high-speed low-drag. 
I've got contacts in places that

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they didn't even know that's it.
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And I told them time to get with
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social media, we would thank 
them for their support so far. 

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And Steve, we're going to dig 
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And what I want to entitle this 
episode, I think is something to

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the effect of Miss Lippy 
strikes, again, that was my 

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initial idea Miss Lippy being 
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was teaching kindergarten. 
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than that. 
We're in the, we're in this sort

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of preschool world where the 
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It's like an opposites day when 
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I'm going to run through a bunch
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it. 
Do you want to break your news 

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first? 
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end because you said you walk 
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topics where you might need to 
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So let's hold on. 
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messed up in so many ways. 
So let's start with a couple 

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We're going to talk about a 
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Tucker Carlson did and it's 
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broader theme of whatever. 
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the case. 
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What they are trying to do is 
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That was Tucker's Point. 
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Crowder did on Thursday and that
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to me, it was another opposite 
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examples this week of like major
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significant opposition. 
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to weigh in and know that those 
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Phil, do you have our tucker 
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I want to play it and then we're
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on that but I think that is the 
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was sparked by an NPR segment. 
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hear NPR is always as a matter 
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Completely opposed the civilian 
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possible exception of maybe IRS 
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that very same station, National
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trans people to buy guns as many
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necessary to use them, the world
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Explain one trans gun owner. 
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And that seems strange to us, is
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dangerous place for Trans 
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dangerous. 
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there. 
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appear to be some benefits. 
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Harvard. 
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easier to get a job at Citibank 
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If you're transgender can so 
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Pentagon will happily make you 
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can make a movie about it. 
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again, its downsides does convey
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why so many young people now do 
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Olds are pretending to be car 
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regional Power Company in 
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But plenty of college freshmen, 
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opposite sex and why wouldn't 
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despise working class whites? 
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Its rationale in a way. 
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person who's ever been murdered 
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that has never happened. 
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violence from Christians. 
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people to buy AR-15s, know it's,
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the mirror image. 
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its natural enemy in 
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Christian's openly can see that,
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anything, and for that matter, 
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They will tell you to your face,
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and basically, absurd, they're 
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this, they brag about it, that 
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Like Me Goes, the most famous 
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opposite view trans Audiology 
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itself. 
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possesses. 
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exactly what we want to talk 
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So the claim is the opposite and
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Christian views, which are is at
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what this country is made up of.
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I think it's kind of consistent 
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the left throws out some sort of
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political enemies. 
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they're doing, it's always the 
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So they're saying, you know, you
you cheated in the election this

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way, well, they were cheating 
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very consistent that they look 
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Outward to what they want. 
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makes a really good point there 
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he, he talked about having 
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hear this, my truth. 
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that there is a, my truth, you 
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the way you want. 
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agree. 
There's only the truth and you 

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really can't shape that. 
Anyway, it's just is what it is.

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But certainly, when you hear the
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truth, they have Control over 
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all supposed to accept that new 
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they've they've concocted. 
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postmodernist attitude about 
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Is that there's a subjective 
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version of it is equally a 
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can be a value because 
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Conflict unless they go, This 
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So his whole point that there is
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that essentially that the human 
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defined all reality as needed, 
but only certain people get to 

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do that, right? 
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what's going on. 
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projection is a legitimate 
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That's when you actually do see 
the things that are your own 

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flaws and you put them on 
somebody else and you make them 

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an external Tormentor, my wife 
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victim of a lot of that from 
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Who got mad leftist. 
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married, it was one of the 
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and, and they were projecting 
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her. 
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people that there is she's nicer
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Like, you know, probably 
probably as we all hope you want

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to marry someone that's much 
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to be a better person as a man 
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And anyway, this is just 
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Lift is concept that they do 
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Yeah, I think even just we talk 
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Concepts. 
I was having to about if when 

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we're old and gray if one of her
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grandkids and he's 100 pounds 
overweight, would we be good? 

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Parents and loving parents to 
say, you look great, fantastic 

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to see you. 
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yeah, you gotta affirm that 
that's body positivity, whereas 

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you and I would say no that's 
destructive to our child. 

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We should say you've never 
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You need to get your butt in the
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vegetable every now. 
And then, again, we're back to 

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the opposite. 
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So that segues very nicely into 
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Steven Crowder I don't watch 
Steven Crowder stuff all that 

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much. 
I like Steven Crowder. 

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I've always found him to be 
articulate and I think that he 

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hammers home some interesting 
points, but one of the 

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discussions that they had on his
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share with my wife. 
Once I wiii see certain things 

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that go like, oh man, that's 
inherently true. 

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And he's a funny guy. 
No doubt, right? 

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So, he does this whole bit where
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He's Got The Hodgetwins on 
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Leo. 
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um, not bad looking, but she's, 
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that anybody is gonna, you know,
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says in this really awful, like,
you can just visit, you know, 

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you could hear if I had the 
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AOC pitch shift, but she's going
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way I am and I was built this 
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Would accept me because I'm 
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And that is also the opposite of
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world because we're all flawed 
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very antithetical to 
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really funny because it's the 
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potential relationship saying, 
I'm Flawless and perfect the way

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that I am and nobody can change 
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And anybody that deserves me 
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I mean, that's not marketable, 
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yourself because you can even if
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not going to put up with that 
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you until death. 
Do you part that might be one of

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those things where she 
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clearly, right? 
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fly as a man. 
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somebody running for political 
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to that because they're trying 
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they're perfect. 
I alone can be your Senator 

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and I'm separate that's why I 
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politics. 
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spouse because there are going 
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check if it's a strong spouse 
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ambitious or has their eyes on 
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Maybe that Politician has a 
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Otherwise, you're just going 
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I'm perfect. 
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constituents. 
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this piece and they showed a 
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it, you know, that was the bit 
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with it didn't make me think 
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this woman is right because 
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on here and I don't mean that to
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been allowing this woman to 
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Oh, by the way, she had hype, 
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was gay or her partner or what, 
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it would like cut away too. 
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know, I'm perfect the way I am 
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perfect and amazing or whatever 
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no that's not in fact actually 
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imperfectly. 
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and it's going to it's going to 
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heard from Google. 
Which I think we as well it is 

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kind of with are spent. 
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position to hold. 
I'm perfect as I am I don't need

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to make myself any better, like,
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that we spend most of our Lives 
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which is a leftist thing, right?
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whether it be Fitness, like, 
nobody wants somebody that's 

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sloppy and out of shape. 
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bettering themselves and 
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bettering all the different 
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including their spirituality, 
their humility, which I think is

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sorely lacking right now but all
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that nobody's going to want. 
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self-affirming, this thing that 
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Ooh, and then the sad thing is, 
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because of it and, and Men know 
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away with that. 
That's what I meant more. 

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Moreover men can't get away with
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that to a woman, they're going 
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humble capable, you know, bring 
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is willing to improve when 
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I would all agree. 
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something, we don't necessarily 
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We go. 
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cost of doing business here even
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she's not wrong. 
So what do I care? 

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Like that's that's pouring of 
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To become a better person, 
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sort of thing. 
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no, I'm perfect. 
I'm not going to mow the lawn 

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the mod Lawns fine as it is 
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That's how God made it. 
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You're going to be a lonely. 
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leave and find somebody who will
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things. 
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destructive to just your life 
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I remember, I, my grandfather 
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A week is trying to learn things
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life. 
I remember, I read a book and I 

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brought to him, I said, hey Pop,
I really think you'd like this 

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and he's was like, now, you 
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and that was just mind-blowing 
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he's now come to the conclusion 
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person and I don't think he's 
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that, and it was not very long 
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I think his soon. 
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they're just all Always driving 
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yourself in intellectually and 
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anything here. 
You just, you're in a waste 

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away. 
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thought and I think it's I think
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That's what western Society is 
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The, the march of progress 
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themselves as progressives, when
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The things they're doing are 
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building something that's 
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They're building something 
that's sadder and and it's, it's

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obviously having bad 
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lead to this. 
This other little dispersed 

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thought that I was I'm driving 
through the middle of the desert

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in New Mexico. 
And I've got the radio, you 

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know, I run out of radio signal 
where I was. 

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So, I move to the podcast and 
I've got the dr. 

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Drew the Adam Carolla dr. 
Drew show, which is about half 

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an hour, and if you don't listen
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an uplifting moment to listen to
two people that are very 

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intelligent. 
One of whom is very educated and

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one of them is not but has a lot
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Adam is he's got a lot of Street
smarts and experience and he's 

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very successful when he does and
he's also hilarious. 

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So we always comes in with his 
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always I mean, I've been 
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was a teenager. 
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So it's kind of like, it's kind 
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hear Adam get into this thing 
about self-esteem and he said, 

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went in 2006, he walked into the
studio and he was yelling that 

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dr. 
Drew and whoever he was with 

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about this thing that was called
the something fuzzy wahby or 

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something. 
Like, I don't even know what the

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name of the cartoon was, and it 
obviously was not my generation.

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I was already out of college but
then but he said this is going 

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to be a problem and the kids who
were listening to it got this 

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song that was called you're the 
coolest and you're the coolest 

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is a horrible song so you guys 
could just go listen to Drew an 

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atom talking about and on his 
podcast from I think Wednesday 

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goes to that. 
If you want, if you want to hear

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the song, but the reflection 
they had was about self-esteem 

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and the self-esteem movement, 
which I probably am guessing. 

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You heard about in maybe middle 
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write. 
It was like, everybody was 

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trying to build the self-esteem.
Yep, that was, that was the way 

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it was. 
I was the way we got rid of, I 

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remember when they got rid of 
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because that was a self esteem 
killer. 

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We did, we played dodgeball in 
high school and we try to hurt 

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each other. 
So, the, the inevitable lesson 

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that came out of the self-esteem
movement, which was obviously, 

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a, left-leaning sort of 
sensibility was. 

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We need to take care of people 
with low self-esteem because 

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they're the ones doing the bad 
things. 

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They're the ones that are doing 
the robberies, the instead 

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murderers, they're the ones that
are Flint certain thing. 

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They're not, you know, a living 
up to their potential and if it 

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was only, if they had a better 
self-esteem, they wouldn't do 

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these awful things to other 
people. 

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Is that a fair summation? 
Yeah, I think. 

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I mean, it will get into this 
sort of subject matter soon. 

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I mean, that was column by that 
was those kids were picked on 

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and brutalize and they had, they
sought that the darkest option 

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for themselves, because their 
self-esteem had been so abused. 

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Exactly. 
Yes. 

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So we attributed, it was, it was
society's fault for not helping 

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them build up their self-esteem.
They didn't feel like they had 

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enough worth and that's why they
did these horrible things, Adam 

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flipped it on its head. 
I've never heard anyone say it 

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this way, but it was, it was 
kind of a revolutionary thought 

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experiment, when I was gone, he 
goes death, row is full of 

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people that have the highest 
self esteem in the world, 

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because how high would your 
self-esteem have to be? 

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How much would you have to think
of yourself, to be able to kill 

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somebody else and take their 
life people with low? 

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Team are busy trying to figure 
out how to make themselves be 

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better, which is essentially the
opposite of the way. 

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It was always sold to me and I 
think that is true. 

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I think that you have to be a 
raging narcissist in some ways 

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to go and think I'm so 
important. 

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I need this so much more than 
the other person. 

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I'm going to put a gun in 
somebody's face at a store and 

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take what they have, take the 
the cash out of the register, I 

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would have to be, you know, 
someone who really loves myself 

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thinks, very highly of myself to
go and take somebody else's life

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and not Let them be able to 
progress further and so I never 

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heard it said that way before, 
but it lined up with all these 

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three things I was you know, 
three things in two days that 

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have all been the same and it's 
the opposite of what was sold. 

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Its exactly backwards and it 
leads us to a lot of the evil 

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that's going on in this country.
And I think we can talk about a,

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we can do a tactical sort of 
dismantlement or after action of

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the shooting that happened in 
Tennessee this week. 

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But the way that you get there 
is the cell Steam movement is 

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the my truth is the truth. 
That's most important is the, 

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you know, trans people who can 
Define themselves as God and and

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subjectively redistribute the, 
the reality that everyone else 

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has to deal with all those 
things. 

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Kind of they're all backwards 
and they lead people to do 

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things that are backwards, which
is to say go and attack 

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children, who are the least 
likely to cause problems for 

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anybody. 
Like children. 

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I mean, except for their 
parents, maybe, but children are

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The reason why we do almost 
anything in a society, that's 

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the thing that we protect and 
defend. 

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I think everybody sort of innate
Lee knows that. 

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So that's that's backwards too. 
I think that the, the plum line 

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here that's missing in all those
scenarios is humility. 

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So I think the difference 
between somebody who has very 

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high self-esteem and is out of 
control megalomaniac, and a 

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person who's confident, which is
where you look to that, example 

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and say, well, that's what I 
want, my son to be, is that 

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confident? 
It's somebody who's been humbled

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which I had a lot of respect for
these guys who were in like the 

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Mixed Martial Arts. 
They're very confident. 

447
00:22:05,900 --> 00:22:09,700
They've they know that their 
abilities to actually do damage 

448
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:12,300
on somebody and then they'll be 
safe if they are ever confronted

449
00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:15,100
with violence, but that came 
from getting choked out a 

450
00:22:15,100 --> 00:22:18,900
million times in the gym, 
they've been humbled before, and

451
00:22:18,900 --> 00:22:22,500
I don't think because we're so 
scared, about damaging people's 

452
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,300
self-esteem. 
They've never been humbled and 

453
00:22:25,300 --> 00:22:28,200
they just steady go continues to
grow and it's never been had a 

454
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,100
chance to be deflated and 
brought back to a normal size. 

455
00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:33,700
Sighs. 
I sort of have been reflecting 

456
00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:35,600
that. 
It's a, it's an imbalance. 

457
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:42,500
It's a, it's a, it's a mismatch 
between people's self estimation

458
00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:45,800
of their worth and their actual 
words, so self esteem versus 

459
00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:47,800
what societies esteem of them 
is. 

460
00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:50,700
And when those things are in 
conflict with each other and you

461
00:22:50,700 --> 00:22:52,100
mentioned somebody in mixed 
martial arts. 

462
00:22:52,100 --> 00:22:54,600
So let's let's evaluate that 
somebody who has a high degree 

463
00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,800
of skill to be able to defend 
themselves and they walk around 

464
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,200
and they project that image and 
people. 

465
00:23:00,300 --> 00:23:03,300
Give them that same credibility 
when they see them because 

466
00:23:03,300 --> 00:23:05,400
they're built a certain way. 
They've you know they've handled

467
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,100
himself. 
They carry themselves in a way 

468
00:23:07,100 --> 00:23:09,800
like that and nobody really 
wants to mess with that guy. 

469
00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,400
You could see it like nobody's 
going to pick a fight with Joe 

470
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:15,200
Rogan, a crazy person, right? 
But Joe Rogan has the highest 

471
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:17,400
and the hardest leg kick 
recorded on that one of these 

472
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,200
little Force, ometer things in 
Vegas, and unless you were a 

473
00:23:21,208 --> 00:23:24,100
complete fool, you can see that 
when you look at the man, 

474
00:23:24,100 --> 00:23:26,900
because the man carries himself 
in a certain way, and you can 

475
00:23:26,900 --> 00:23:30,100
tell people like Tim Kennedy, 
who does the Sheepdog response? 

476
00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:32,700
And teaches law enforcement, you
know, classes about how to 

477
00:23:33,100 --> 00:23:34,800
handle things. 
He's, you know, Special Forces 

478
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,000
former operator. 
You know, when you meet guys 

479
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,100
like that, and I've met a bunch 
and I usually can pick up on it.

480
00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,800
They carry themselves a certain 
way and then we believe that 

481
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,000
they are the same thing. 
They don't have to tell us what 

482
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:48,600
their worth is. 
We already know. 

483
00:23:48,900 --> 00:23:51,000
But when you are the opposite of
that you see, like, you know, 

484
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:55,000
the classic like 80's 90's. 
Slacker sort of the Gen-X 

485
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,600
example of the dude who's you 
know, the what is it, the Jay 

486
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,600
and Silent Bob types, right? 
Like they're, they're kind of 

487
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,500
Scruffy. 
The kind of hunched over their 

488
00:24:01,500 --> 00:24:05,500
prop there, they're not carrying
them self in a way, they're not 

489
00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:08,300
really humble either, they're 
kind of just jerks about 

490
00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:12,200
something, they're projecting, 
sort of like a weakness and but 

491
00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,600
they evaluate themselves really 
high because you know they're 

492
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,600
fighting the man or whatever the
heck it was that was that was 

493
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800
the way I was raised like the 
Slackers were always pushing 

494
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,800
back against whatever the 
standard was. 

495
00:24:21,500 --> 00:24:25,000
Now, the Slackers are are angry.
That anyone doesn't think 

496
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,200
really, really highly of them 
on. 

497
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,000
They haven't done nothing to 
deserve that thing that people 

498
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,400
would think highly of Yeah, 
that's them. 

499
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,600
And that's how you get this 
loud. 

500
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,800
Very loud presence of hundreds 
and hundreds of people. 

501
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,100
They're just going to storm the 
Tennessee Capital because their 

502
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:47,700
voice needs to be prioritized in
front of the will of the 

503
00:24:47,700 --> 00:24:50,500
electorate. 
I mean, look, I'm not opposed to

504
00:24:50,900 --> 00:24:53,000
First Amendment you and I 
obviously both very supportive 

505
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,100
of that if you want to protest. 
You could do it. 

506
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,100
Definitely doesn't entitle you 
to storm through that building 

507
00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,300
much like we saw on. 
R6 there was supposed to be a 

508
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,700
peaceful protest out front. 
Let your voice be heard. 

509
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:07,200
The individuals that thought 
that dog. 

510
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:09,800
They were special person and and
went in. 

511
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,400
You know, under those suspicious
circumstances, where they're 

512
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,700
just, you know, there's 
violence, that's somebody who 

513
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:20,000
needed to have their ego. 
May be put in check a little 

514
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,900
earlier on than that. 
I saw a picture of a what they 

515
00:25:23,900 --> 00:25:28,500
call the died in which is like 
my most, I despise that term and

516
00:25:28,500 --> 00:25:32,400
that and that, whatever that 
technique being used by these 

517
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,400
people to communicate something.
So they all basically go in then

518
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,100
they just lay down on the floor.
I cannot think of a, my 

519
00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,800
two-year-old does that, by the 
way, my two-year-old regularly 

520
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,600
does it die in whenever I go? 
He says, you know, kind of ice 

521
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:46,000
cream. 
He'll be like ice cream. 

522
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,800
And I'll be like, there's no 
more ice cream and then he'll 

523
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,300
just go. 
Oh, and I'll Just Fall to the 

524
00:25:50,300 --> 00:25:51,900
floor and just lay there like 
something. 

525
00:25:52,100 --> 00:25:54,200
Gonna happen. 
And I go get up, you turd, you 

526
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:56,600
know, like a column, a turd he 
knows he's a turd and then he 

527
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,200
gets up and then now he's better
and he's too if these are ones 

528
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:03,700
Step Above holding your breath, 
to get your way, it's the same 

529
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,500
thing, it's literally the same 
thing. 

530
00:26:05,500 --> 00:26:09,400
You are laying on the floor and 
flopping like a like a child, 

531
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:11,300
throwing a tantrum. 
So they came into the Texas 

532
00:26:11,300 --> 00:26:14,600
capital did this and imagine the
humility that would have been 

533
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:17,100
that would have been meted out 
on these people. 

534
00:26:17,300 --> 00:26:22,000
If strong Texas state troopers, 
you know, the DPS Trooper. 

535
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,300
Rolled in there, wearing body 
armor with their their holstered

536
00:26:25,300 --> 00:26:29,500
pistols, and there, you know, 
and and their uniforms on and 

537
00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:32,300
just grab the two of them by the
ankles and just like pull them 

538
00:26:32,300 --> 00:26:34,900
into a pile, and just show them 
what a dye and looks like, make 

539
00:26:34,900 --> 00:26:37,000
a mass grave of these idiots 
that are flopping around on the 

540
00:26:37,008 --> 00:26:38,500
ground. 
How many, how far would they 

541
00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:40,100
have to pull them across the 
linoleum? 

542
00:26:40,500 --> 00:26:43,300
You know, about a dozen of them 
get stacked on top of each other

543
00:26:43,300 --> 00:26:44,700
in a corner just throwing them 
into a room. 

544
00:26:44,700 --> 00:26:46,300
Just we're done with you. 
Get out of the way. 

545
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,100
You know, you had your first 
amendment ability to do a die-in

546
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:51,600
but now we gotta walk across 
these floors and you don't get 

547
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,200
to own the fort Floors. 
These are the people's floors 

548
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,800
and just dragging him. 
You know, you'd see Hands just 

549
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,500
making the squeaking noise 
across the the Polish tile. 

550
00:27:00,300 --> 00:27:02,000
That would that would have been 
the humility that should have 

551
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,300
happened. 
And and honestly, they're 

552
00:27:03,300 --> 00:27:05,600
supposed to be consequences when
you do things like Civil 

553
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,100
Disobedience, right? 
People used to go to jail 

554
00:27:08,100 --> 00:27:10,500
because they would say I'm going
to do a sit-in at a lunch 

555
00:27:10,500 --> 00:27:12,900
counter and they would take you 
out for trespassing and you 

556
00:27:12,908 --> 00:27:15,200
would go sit in jail for the 
night or two until somebody came

557
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,300
and bailed you out the 
consequences don't exist 

558
00:27:17,300 --> 00:27:19,500
anymore. 
So we're getting all of the the 

559
00:27:19,500 --> 00:27:24,200
drama and all of the ridiculous 
like Social media dopamine hit 

560
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,500
and we're not getting any of the
humility that supposed to come 

561
00:27:26,500 --> 00:27:29,000
with it as well. 
Because if you go out there and 

562
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,500
do something like that, and I 
think you and I have talked 

563
00:27:31,500 --> 00:27:34,700
about this as well, when we, 
when we do a whistleblower 

564
00:27:34,700 --> 00:27:40,200
activity, we bring something to 
the Forefront and then if it's 

565
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,300
not received or more worth it, 
like, when the, when the bureau 

566
00:27:43,300 --> 00:27:46,300
denies it after some period of 
time, you kind of go like, am I?

567
00:27:46,308 --> 00:27:48,700
A psychopath? 
Did I miss the boat? 

568
00:27:48,700 --> 00:27:52,600
And you always have to have that
moment of self-doubt if not You 

569
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,500
are a psychopath like you've 
lost touch with what's going on 

570
00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:59,800
in reality and because we have 
that that check. 

571
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,900
The only thing that happens is 
like the beard is another thing.

572
00:28:01,900 --> 00:28:03,600
That's terrible. 
So then we're able to re expose 

573
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,600
it and we're reaffirmed that 
we're doing the right thing. 

574
00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:09,100
These people are not getting any
of the ego check where where 

575
00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:10,800
they have to at least question 
themselves? 

576
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:15,000
Like am I am I the bad guy here?
Am I the 50 people taking up 

577
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,800
space in the Texas Capitol? 
Like just flopping around like 

578
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,400
toddlers instead of being you 
know, rewarded with Social media

579
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,800
and and even the mainstream 
media, like praising them and 

580
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,600
talking about how the real 
victim of a shooting where three

581
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,800
children and it was at Fort for 
adults or three and three, I 

582
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,700
think three and three, you know,
people were killed and they were

583
00:28:35,700 --> 00:28:37,900
doing nothing. 
They were literally going to a 

584
00:28:37,900 --> 00:28:41,400
Christian School and some Maniac
came event with and decided to 

585
00:28:41,408 --> 00:28:45,300
shoot them because because of 
her own issues, my understanding

586
00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,900
is, is the biological female. 
And this is the other ridiculous

587
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:50,300
moment where we're bending 
history right now, but he 

588
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:54,100
biological female who was taking
mail, Hormones didn't know how 

589
00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,900
to deal with it and enrolled in 
and attacked like maybe her old 

590
00:28:57,900 --> 00:28:59,900
school. 
For some reason, the FBI has the

591
00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:03,500
manifesto so that's even weirder
and yeah it'll just be shoved 

592
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,900
down. 
The memory hole, I would say the

593
00:29:05,900 --> 00:29:10,500
the Vegas shooting memory hole 
but some some nonsense got 

594
00:29:10,500 --> 00:29:14,400
exposed with that recently. 
That makes me question. 

595
00:29:15,100 --> 00:29:17,100
What's going on with the FBI 
even more? 

596
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:22,300
Yeah, so that came out yesterday
and what we get. 

597
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,500
Is a news drop from the AP. 
Stating some FBI documents and I

598
00:29:26,500 --> 00:29:29,200
don't know how old these things 
are some FBI documents indicate 

599
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:33,400
that the problem with this guy 
Steven haddock was that he he 

600
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,500
lost a bunch of money and a 
bunch of money was like tens of 

601
00:29:36,500 --> 00:29:39,000
thousands of dollars for a dude 
who had a bankroll apparently 

602
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,700
between two and three million 
dollars. 

603
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:43,400
So maybe like one percent of his
bankroll like that's not even 

604
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:46,400
that's not even a major swing 
for people that are serious 

605
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,600
gamblers. 
I don't know. 

606
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,500
I don't know if you ever been in
a casino before but being around

607
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,900
people that spend money on 
tables like Taking a swing of 20

608
00:29:53,900 --> 00:29:56,800
or 30%, is that's what you do. 
If you're going to be putting 

609
00:29:56,800 --> 00:30:00,100
things on line, that's gambling.
Is it would he was considered to

610
00:30:00,108 --> 00:30:03,000
be this professional Gambler to 
according to the story, which 

611
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,000
always lends itself to my mind. 
The theory was he was doing 

612
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:07,900
something else illegal and 
laundering the money through the

613
00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:10,200
casino. 
Certainly that was certainly 

614
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,700
never investigated. 
So what we waited six years and 

615
00:30:13,900 --> 00:30:17,000
my question is what's he doing 
on the other hand it's always 

616
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,600
about misdirection they're 
dropping that. 

617
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,300
Why? 
What else are they trying to? 

618
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,000
To distract our attention from 
with that news, drop. 

619
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:30,900
Because that is a ill-conceived 
like like you compared to like 

620
00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:35,200
yeah, covid started from a bat 
in Wuhan like that. 

621
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,800
That's the level of idiocy that 
you assume that we have to 

622
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,100
accept that premise that's the 
mainstream media. 

623
00:30:42,100 --> 00:30:44,800
We're dealing with right now the
the media narratives are we're 

624
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,800
going to tell you what the truth
is the sort of Mika Brzezinski 

625
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,300
statements the you know, we tell
people what to think. 

626
00:30:50,500 --> 00:30:53,900
Because we're the real thing and
then we're all just supposed to 

627
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:57,800
digest that happily and just 
choke down these lies. 

628
00:30:57,900 --> 00:30:59,900
There's no question that that's 
the ridiculous thing to have 

629
00:30:59,900 --> 00:31:01,800
waited six years to release if 
that was something they wanted 

630
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,500
to release, they could have done
that within a couple days and 

631
00:31:04,500 --> 00:31:06,800
then I've already gone like even
that doesn't add up because a 

632
00:31:06,808 --> 00:31:10,200
man with no History of Violence 
and no particular obsession with

633
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,700
weapons. 
Suddenly decides to bring you 

634
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:15,900
know a dozen of them up and and 
and significant like I don't 

635
00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:18,900
know if you've had to cart 
around ammunition and guns in a 

636
00:31:18,908 --> 00:31:20,200
big way. 
I'm sure when you were doing 

637
00:31:20,300 --> 00:31:23,000
Training, right? 
Like moving gear is a pain in 

638
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,200
the butt and add in the older. 
You get I have to imagine it 

639
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,900
gets more and more of a pain 
because at 40 right now it's not

640
00:31:27,900 --> 00:31:29,600
my favorite thing to move all my
guns. 

641
00:31:29,900 --> 00:31:31,800
I'm currently doing right now 
and all my ammo. 

642
00:31:32,100 --> 00:31:35,100
You know I woke up sore the next
day and I was like, man. 

643
00:31:35,700 --> 00:31:38,700
Like that being said, I have 
literally, like, several 

644
00:31:38,700 --> 00:31:40,300
thousand rounds for every weapon
I have. 

645
00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:45,400
And I've got That many weapons 
to you've got you've got up to 

646
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:48,500
that. 
I've got dozens of weapons. 

647
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,100
It's know. 
There was somebody who I think 

648
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:54,300
my mother was asking me. 
She was like, how much, how much

649
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:58,000
ammo did you put in that truck? 
And I was like, I don't know, 20

650
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,800
or 30,000 rounds. 
And she was like, oh, that seems

651
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,400
like a lot knows, like, I feel 
like, I'm slacking. 

652
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:04,300
I'm even what you're talking 
about. 

653
00:32:04,300 --> 00:32:07,100
Like, that's that's a couple of 
days in a bad Outpost, you know,

654
00:32:07,100 --> 00:32:09,300
what's? 
Hopefully, I don't live in one 

655
00:32:09,300 --> 00:32:11,600
of those places where that's 
gonna be a problem, but this guy

656
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:15,500
supposedly, Those up in multiple
trips and then shot at a 

657
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,900
concert. 
Yeah, at a country music, 

658
00:32:17,900 --> 00:32:22,800
concert was amazing at a casino.
I mean, it's absurd on its face.

659
00:32:24,900 --> 00:32:27,900
Let's do a what we'll do. 
We'll save the debrief for the 

660
00:32:27,900 --> 00:32:31,600
end of it and then we'll roll 
into your the news you want to 

661
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:32,800
share with us about just the 
house. 

662
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,800
How silly the world is because 
it's kind of light-hearted in 

663
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,500
the other news is we saw you 
know speaking of absurdities and

664
00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:40,800
maybe things that they're trying
to distract us from we saw that 

665
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,100
President Trump was finally a 
pair We indicted by the grand 

666
00:32:44,100 --> 00:32:48,700
jury in Manhattan. 
So this is a local DEA even 

667
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:51,000
though people in New York think 
that New York is the center of 

668
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,600
the world. 
Nobody who doesn't live in New 

669
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,900
York thinks that way the rest of
us, don't really care. 

670
00:32:54,900 --> 00:32:57,100
What goes on in New York 0 times
a day. 

671
00:32:57,100 --> 00:32:59,600
Do I think about what's 
happening in New York City even 

672
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
though people in New York City, 
believe that. 

673
00:33:01,100 --> 00:33:03,000
That's all we think about out in
the rest of the world. 

674
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,800
So this da who's a local DEA 
Secured an indictment of some 

675
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,800
kind and then leaked it. 
First of all, is that the seem 

676
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,300
common to me, I don't remember 
that. 

677
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:15,400
Being the case, you get a grand,
jury indictment. 

678
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,700
You don't let it out until you 
either serve the process and 

679
00:33:17,700 --> 00:33:19,800
either a summons or an arrest 
warrant. 

680
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,200
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean, I think once you have 

681
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,300
the indictment to seal gets 
lifted at that point to it, all 

682
00:33:26,300 --> 00:33:29,300
that information is supposed to 
be put out publicly. 

683
00:33:29,300 --> 00:33:32,200
So I don't know what the whole 
agenda was in leaking it now, 

684
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,900
and let's say, they're 
predicting some sort of lag and 

685
00:33:34,900 --> 00:33:37,900
time for one reason or another. 
And, and obviously, he wants to 

686
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:40,900
get his version of what's goes 
out. 

687
00:33:40,900 --> 00:33:44,700
You know, any sort of out of 
context things that he wants, 

688
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:46,100
four things promoted by the 
media. 

689
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,700
Because once that first initial 
surge of media happens, 

690
00:33:49,700 --> 00:33:53,400
everything else will that is a 
correction will be lost in the 

691
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,100
shuffle. 
So you've got experience in 

692
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,000
local law enforcement and 
federal, so I'm kind of curious 

693
00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,300
about how you're thinking about 
this. 

694
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,100
But I listen to Alan dershowitz 
who, you know, he's on all the 

695
00:34:02,108 --> 00:34:05,200
programs at all the times and he
has a very obviously strong 

696
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
bases and discussing. 
See things from a constitutional

697
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,900
perspective. 
His belief is that it will be 

698
00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,699
immediately dismissed because 
the statute of limitations has 

699
00:34:13,699 --> 00:34:17,300
passed the argument for them 
going longer and trying to go 

700
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:21,300
after it this way, was that they
had to wait because Trump was 

701
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:24,600
not in New York at the time, but
Trump is not in New York now. 

702
00:34:24,900 --> 00:34:27,300
So that doesn't make any sense. 
They indicted him out of state. 

703
00:34:27,500 --> 00:34:30,800
And then the other piece is they
have to basically claimed that 

704
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,600
there was an underlying crime 
that his misdemeanor was 

705
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,100
covering for And so that's going
to be a difficult, you know, 

706
00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:39,500
path group. 
Obviously the indictment is much

707
00:34:39,500 --> 00:34:42,100
easier to do than actually 
proving this case. 

708
00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:45,699
But if there's a statute of 
limitations issue and and 

709
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:47,199
they're trying to indict him, 
they've you know, they've 

710
00:34:47,199 --> 00:34:48,600
invited him, but he's not in the
state. 

711
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,900
They're still going to have to 
get extradition or he's going to

712
00:34:50,908 --> 00:34:55,100
have to hear those charges in 
Florida. 

713
00:34:55,100 --> 00:34:56,500
Is that correct? 
Like they would put in front of 

714
00:34:56,500 --> 00:34:57,900
a Magistrate Judge or? 
No. 

715
00:34:57,900 --> 00:35:02,800
I think he's gonna negotiate 
going on on his own to New York.

716
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,200
I think, as I understand it, he 
wants that Image, I think that's

717
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,200
good for him politically to just
portray himself and get 

718
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,100
donations rolling in and that 
sort of thing. 

719
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:17,600
So I think they won't have the, 
you know this this unlawful 

720
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200
flight to avoid prosecution 
scenario where they're going to 

721
00:35:20,207 --> 00:35:23,300
get the feds involved. 
I think he'll actually just fly 

722
00:35:23,300 --> 00:35:28,700
in and get the, get the image of
him, get his fingers printed and

723
00:35:28,700 --> 00:35:32,800
if they're not even do that, but
it's such a stretch of a charge 

724
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,200
to begin with. 
I don't even know what the 

725
00:35:34,207 --> 00:35:37,400
protocols are for that. 
Even if Was there's no statute 

726
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,700
of limitations on it. 
I hit, I don't understand how 

727
00:35:42,700 --> 00:35:44,900
they came to decision. 
That that was a wise thing that 

728
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:47,600
they were going to charge other 
than they knew. 

729
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:49,100
They wanted to charge something,
you know. 

730
00:35:49,100 --> 00:35:54,200
Find the man, I'll find the 
crime and then there's I think 

731
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,300
that they probably figure both 
sides will mutually benefit from

732
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:59,400
this. 
He's not going to do any time in

733
00:35:59,408 --> 00:36:02,600
jail, he probably wants the 
photo op and this is going to 

734
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,000
launch. 
Alvin Bragg's Ascension to 

735
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:08,200
something else because certainly
we being the da Manhattan is is 

736
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:09,800
a stepping stone. 
I don't think that's going to be

737
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,500
the end game for him. 
He'll probably write a book and 

738
00:36:12,500 --> 00:36:16,200
then get Chuck Schumer senate 
seat or something like that. 

739
00:36:16,700 --> 00:36:19,200
Gross. 
One of the things and we're 

740
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,100
discussing things that are the 
opposite of what they say. 

741
00:36:22,300 --> 00:36:26,200
The political left in the United
States, loves the federal 

742
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,500
government, right? 
They love the most powerful part

743
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:32,100
of the supremacy clause saying 
that we're going to come in and 

744
00:36:32,100 --> 00:36:33,200
do whatever. 
While we're going to force gay 

745
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,400
marriage on every single state, 
the state's rights are lower 

746
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,300
their subordinate. 
You this overarching federal 

747
00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:41,000
government. 
And now what they're trying to 

748
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,300
claim is that they're going to 
take a former president who is a

749
00:36:44,300 --> 00:36:48,300
federal protectee of the United 
States, Secret Service, right? 

750
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,700
And they're going to bring him 
in and they're going to do this 

751
00:36:50,700 --> 00:36:54,000
process to do. 
Even if it's a photo op, I 

752
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,500
cannot imagine the Secret 
Service being derelict in their 

753
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,200
Duty. 
They're going to have to treat 

754
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,300
the entire area, like any other 
former presidential visit, 

755
00:37:02,300 --> 00:37:04,700
they're going to have to clear 
it of threats, right? 

756
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,900
So yeah, they're going to have 
to go send an advance team to 

757
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:13,100
exactly go through the Manhattan
DA office, to make sure there's 

758
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:15,200
no threats, which there might be
a lot of actually, if you 

759
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,200
consider the political into that
office, correct, and and and 

760
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,200
then we're setting up a 
situation where they're going to

761
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,500
turn over because he's innocent 
till proven guilty. 

762
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,300
He's going to have to be 
surrounded by Secret Service the

763
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,800
whole time. 
I mean they might as well just 

764
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,700
do this thing over Zoom because 
it's not going to go any further

765
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:33,900
than that. 
There's there's there's just no 

766
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:35,400
justification to make any of 
this thing. 

767
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,600
Make any sense. 
Once again, everything is 

768
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,400
backwards when you start going 
like well you know, in our case 

769
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,500
we want that we want to 
Manhattan da to indict because 

770
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:46,700
that's going to show that nobody
is above the law. 

771
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:50,800
Even though there's this basic 
movement that everybody that 

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,700
they choose is above the law and
that the federal government 

773
00:37:52,700 --> 00:37:53,800
should be able to do whatever it
wants. 

774
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:57,300
It's just all turned on its head
in so many different ways that 

775
00:37:57,700 --> 00:38:00,100
it's difficult for me to even 
process. 

776
00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:06,100
What a secret service, protect D
going into a, you know, a 

777
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,000
Processing center is going to 
look like I can't even fathom it

778
00:38:09,008 --> 00:38:10,100
at this point. 
Yeah. 

779
00:38:10,100 --> 00:38:12,800
And I mean, just in this, the 
idea of prosecutorial 

780
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,700
discretion, like, if it was a 
legitimate that that crime, if 

781
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,800
it was legitimate thing to 
charge, would even ever be 

782
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,200
charged on anybody and let 
along, we're gonna send the 

783
00:38:22,207 --> 00:38:24,300
message, it's sort of like, the 
Martha Stewart, Insider 

784
00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,000
training, but at least with 
Insider training, that's a 

785
00:38:26,008 --> 00:38:28,700
felony. 
She actually did time for that, 

786
00:38:28,700 --> 00:38:31,400
I don't know what sort of jail 
sentence they would have, you 

787
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:34,700
know, even if they maxed out 
Trump's sentence and he plead 

788
00:38:34,700 --> 00:38:37,000
guilty or you know, was 
convicted Or something like 

789
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,400
that. 
I don't even know if he pays 

790
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,000
time in jail, I'm not sure. 
I don't know that the New York 

791
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,500
statute on it but you know, 
light of what we're seeing in 

792
00:38:45,500 --> 00:38:49,200
the DC District federally. 
I mean I think I commented this 

793
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:55,700
week that I was actually 
surprised that the doj was 

794
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:58,400
honoring. 
Miranda can saying that you can 

795
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,300
have an attorney because 
obviously they thrown on Giglio 

796
00:39:01,300 --> 00:39:05,700
and jencks and Brady and 
attorney-client privilege. 

797
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:08,500
So So, why even give them a 
attorney at this point? 

798
00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:12,600
Yeah, no, that's true. 
It's, it's just bizarre on every

799
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,900
level and then you also figure 
that You know, we're talking 

800
00:39:16,900 --> 00:39:22,600
about hush money payment for 
like an aging stripper, adult 

801
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:26,600
film star who was paid paid off 
by one of his attorneys. 

802
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:30,000
It wasn't made up by Trump. 
So, the stretch here, the whole 

803
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,600
things to go after its such as 
and I think this, the juice of 

804
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:36,600
that squeeze was in 2016 because
they got to hang them all. 

805
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,300
Oh, look, he had sex with a porn
star and like that was. 

806
00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:41,200
The reason that that story came 
out it wasn't for anything 

807
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,400
criminal, it was just, we're 
going to try to embarrass him 

808
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:44,600
and make a little character 
issue. 

809
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:47,800
Same as the Billy Bush Video 
Grabber by the hoo-ha. 

810
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,000
I mean, that's what happens in 
these campaigns so now they 

811
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,000
weren't all way back were like, 
wait, maybe there was a crime, 

812
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:59,100
we could charge. 
I don't know who's calling shots

813
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:01,500
in these rooms and things like, 
oh, that's a good idea. 

814
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,800
But I'm back to. 
I think they did it because 

815
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,100
their side wants to be able to 
say, they got it, something 

816
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:09,700
done, and then the other side 
wants to say, look what they did

817
00:40:09,700 --> 00:40:12,800
to us, vote for us, and it's 
just so gross. 

818
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:17,100
I hate everything about it. 
Yeah, I agree with that theory, 

819
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:21,500
let's talk about something that 
was done really well this week. 

820
00:40:22,100 --> 00:40:26,300
And that was, you know, in the 
worst case scenario and I think 

821
00:40:26,300 --> 00:40:29,400
this is a parental Nightmare on 
anybody who sends their kids to 

822
00:40:29,408 --> 00:40:32,400
school, has to have this sort of
thing that you have, you wake up

823
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:33,800
in the moment. 
I in a cold sweat, this is the 

824
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,600
thing. 
It's some unhinged individual 

825
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,400
coming into the school where 
your kids are at where you're 

826
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,900
not there to physically be there
to protect them. 

827
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:45,000
Especially guys like you and me 
and and he starts. 

828
00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:48,000
Shooting. 
So we've got this transgender 

829
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,100
female whatever the heck that 
means a woman. 

830
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:54,700
This is another piece of it to 
somebody mentioned and I think 

831
00:40:54,700 --> 00:41:01,100
they're correct imagine and All 
the Rage of being a teenage boy 

832
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:05,600
13 14 15 years old. 
But with all the like the buying

833
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:09,500
power and poured a physicality 
in the put on autonomy of being 

834
00:41:09,700 --> 00:41:11,700
an adult. 
And she was about 28 years old, 

835
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:15,000
something like that, you know, 
one of the upsides of mail 

836
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,900
Puberty if there is such a thing
because I think male puberty is 

837
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:20,000
pretty awful like going through 
it, like it's awkward and it's 

838
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,600
uncomfortable and, you know, 
everybody's body changes all the

839
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,900
way. 
But moreover, like there's just 

840
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:27,300
moments where you just furious 
about all these things, because 

841
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,800
that's what testosterone can do.
That's why you briefly guys who 

842
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,200
have Roid Rage and fury, worked 
with dudes. 

843
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:33,800
That's Antwoord, you know, 
juicing. 

844
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,400
But they're, they're very 
uncomfortable people to be 

845
00:41:35,408 --> 00:41:39,800
around their volatile and ways 
that are not predictable in any 

846
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,700
way, shape, or form. 
And then, you know, that's kind 

847
00:41:42,700 --> 00:41:45,300
of what we've done with females 
that are taking these It's like 

848
00:41:45,300 --> 00:41:46,900
they don't know how to deal with
that. 

849
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:49,400
The upside to being 14 or 15. 
Is there's like only so much you

850
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,900
can do with that. 
You know what I mean? 

851
00:41:50,900 --> 00:41:52,700
Like you could go put a hole in 
your door. 

852
00:41:53,100 --> 00:41:55,100
You can get hit by your dad or 
whatever. 

853
00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:58,100
Yeah, at least at least, dad can
still handle you at that point 

854
00:41:58,100 --> 00:42:01,600
to, that's it. 
And we'll most in most houses 

855
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,200
even that is that you just don't
have that autonomy to go off and

856
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,500
do your own thing. 
You're not gonna go to a gun 

857
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:11,400
store, you know, if your pit no 
and even if she was acting out 

858
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:15,500
physically, she was still a she 
and I think that there would The

859
00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:17,400
chances of a physical 
confrontation from somebody 

860
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,800
being like, what did you just 
say to me is next to nil? 

861
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,800
So there was never going to be 
any sort of negative 

862
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,600
reinforcement on that whole 
process. 

863
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,600
Okay, yeah. 
So so now we've got this, we've 

864
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:33,400
got this 28 year old female on 
male hormones and then this like

865
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,800
horrific situation, all right? 
The the silver line Infinity 

866
00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,000
this is that basically the 
Nashville Police Department, put

867
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,900
on a clinic on, what should be 
taught for all First Responders.

868
00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,800
Two active Shooters under the 
sort of the alert process. 

869
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,900
Were you an alert instructor by 
chance, or did you just go 

870
00:42:51,900 --> 00:42:54,900
through the training with SWAT? 
And I went to the training on my

871
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:57,600
own and then had training on the
SWAT. 

872
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,200
And then, the bureau would send 
me to alert training because I 

873
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:07,800
wasn't a tactically trained, 
right instructor, if you got, if

874
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:09,900
you folks, can imagine the FBI 
has a bunch of these different 

875
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:12,400
stupid Hoops, you have to jump 
through and the Hoops are 

876
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:14,000
exactly what you'd expect from 
the feds. 

877
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:16,300
It doesn't matter if you're 
Confident, you have to go check 

878
00:43:16,300 --> 00:43:19,100
some stupid box and only the 
guys that are liked by certain 

879
00:43:19,100 --> 00:43:21,600
people that get to pay for that 
training but all that being 

880
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,300
said, we you set an expectation 
of what it really should look 

881
00:43:24,300 --> 00:43:25,300
like. 
We're going to go see how it 

882
00:43:25,300 --> 00:43:27,200
actually got done, which is 
almost exactly by the book. 

883
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:32,000
I think what is the what is the 
modus operandi of responding to 

884
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,100
an active shooter? 
What are the challenges number 

885
00:43:35,100 --> 00:43:36,800
one? 
And then what is the goal? 

886
00:43:36,900 --> 00:43:41,800
Number two? 
Well, so it's a, It's Quickly, a

887
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,000
evolving situation. 
So so right away. 

888
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,900
You don't know where you have to
go into this structure to go 

889
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:50,200
address. 
This threat that is its contrary

890
00:43:50,500 --> 00:43:53,100
in the response to everything 
else that you do in law 

891
00:43:53,100 --> 00:43:56,100
enforcement where Personnel 
safety is Paramount. 

892
00:43:56,100 --> 00:43:58,900
You know, hey, look if it's not 
here we'll come back tomorrow. 

893
00:43:58,900 --> 00:44:03,600
We'll come back later here. 
The preservation of life is the 

894
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,700
utmost Focus so you have to 
sacrifice your personal safety. 

895
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:13,100
T, if the sacrifice ideal 
tactics choose in order to 

896
00:44:13,100 --> 00:44:16,800
achieve speed to move to contact
because loss of time is loss of 

897
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,700
life. 
Sorry, not sorry, you got 

898
00:44:19,700 --> 00:44:22,700
training, you got equipment, you
got body armor. 

899
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:24,800
You gotta go get in a gunfight 
right now. 

900
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,400
So yeah. 
What is that? 

901
00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:29,600
What is that sacrifice when it 
comes to safety? 

902
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,300
You said it, but what does that 
look like? 

903
00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:33,400
What are the sort of you may 
have to do that would? 

904
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:37,500
Yeah, you do you wouldn't do any
sort of threshold assessment, 

905
00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:40,400
where you would stand outside of
a door and then pick the optimal

906
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,000
way. 
And Stage yourself in a way that

907
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,000
you could then take one room 
over and then. 

908
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:45,600
All right, we own this room move
to the next room. 

909
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,200
You just have to immediately 
respond to whatever area you 

910
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,300
think that they shooting is 
going on at. 

911
00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:54,900
So, in this case, they heard 
shooting is it? 

912
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:56,100
And you can actually hear the 
officer say. 

913
00:44:56,300 --> 00:44:58,600
From upstairs. 
So they by that point or 

914
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,500
bypassing all these doors where 
you would never know that would 

915
00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,300
be a major mistake on your part.
If you're doing just typical 

916
00:45:05,300 --> 00:45:10,100
Close Quarter battle where you 
would just bypass doors and not 

917
00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:12,100
address them because they're you
never know what's behind it. 

918
00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:14,600
They had to move immediately to 
the contact situation. 

919
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,800
It's also heart-wrenching 
because you have to drive past 

920
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,300
people who might be physically 
injured and in need of Medical 

921
00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,900
Aid. 
Because if you stop for that 

922
00:45:23,900 --> 00:45:26,600
Split, Second, that could mean 
somebody else is getting hurt. 

923
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:30,100
So they will always prepared for
and we'd have role players, that

924
00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:31,800
would be there. 
Screaming, like help me help me,

925
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,100
help me and you just have to 
ignore it. 

926
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:38,200
As cold as hard as it is because
if the threat is still there, 

927
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,900
once the threat is mitigated and
you can, you know, go check back

928
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:46,400
and help those folks. 
But it's unlike anything else 

929
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:49,500
and then I was actually also 
thinking about a snake as much 

930
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,600
as best practices or always 
changing and law enforcement 

931
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,100
especially with anything in the 
Tactical. 

932
00:45:54,100 --> 00:45:57,300
I mean it's just in the time 
that I was Why we went from like

933
00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:00,900
speed 20 slow and methodical 20,
we're going to be outside and 

934
00:46:00,900 --> 00:46:04,200
call them out or now we're going
to roll lat, we're going to be 

935
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
on drones and technology. 
And next we'll have attar's or 

936
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:13,000
something, but since Columbine 
man, 25 years or I think about 

937
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,600
25 years since Columbine that is
been best practices, no change 

938
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,700
to it. 
But and and actually, it's 

939
00:46:19,700 --> 00:46:22,900
probably a good thing because 
now it's universally around law,

940
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:25,200
enforcement agencies. 
And the case with Nashville, 

941
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,700
those guys were Squared away. 
Yeah, so so alert is the 

942
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:35,000
standard, it's a l r RT. 
I believe is what it's called. 

943
00:46:35,000 --> 00:46:36,700
I don't know what the 
abbreviation is, Phil may be 

944
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,400
able to look it up for us. 
It comes out of San Marcos 

945
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Texas, which is Texas State 
University, and it's a codified 

946
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:48,600
way of taking the lessons from 
Columbine, essentially and doing

947
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:50,000
what they call Direct a threat, 
right? 

948
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,900
Like the goal is to quickly 
engage, can you tell people why 

949
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,200
the goal is to engage as quickly
as possible? 

950
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:59,000
Like, what the most to most 
likely outcomes are When you 

951
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:02,200
meet an active shooter with 
Force, the you're going to kill 

952
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:03,500
them or they're going to kill 
themselves. 

953
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,200
That's pretty much it. 
Right often times, we find that 

954
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,500
like the minute they meet 
opposition. 

955
00:47:08,500 --> 00:47:11,200
And these people already have a 
plan to take themselves out of 

956
00:47:11,207 --> 00:47:12,900
the equation. 
And then, the alternative is 

957
00:47:12,900 --> 00:47:14,600
what happened? 
In this particular scenario in 

958
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,300
Tennessee, where the good guy 
does the thing that needs to be 

959
00:47:17,300 --> 00:47:19,900
done? 
I don't want to give away too 

960
00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:21,200
much of it. 
If people haven't seen it, if 

961
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,300
you haven't spent time, looking 
at it, but we'll look at it as 

962
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:25,000
like law enforcement officers on
their Phil. 

963
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,900
Are you able to throw that thing
up and kind of Play for both of 

964
00:47:28,900 --> 00:47:30,700
us here to take a look at it. 
Or is that something we can't 

965
00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:33,800
show? 
No, I can show it on the video 

966
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,400
here and maybe I can narrate and
give you guys kind of a 

967
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,900
play-by-play. 
And then we can pause and stop 

968
00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:41,300
as your ideas come up. 
Because I think everyone's 

969
00:47:41,300 --> 00:47:44,600
probably seen the video who 
listens to this show, but they 

970
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,000
would probably really appreciate
your takes even like, you know 

971
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,900
right down to the scope and 
different things like that. 

972
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,700
So let her know before you even 
launched it. 

973
00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:55,700
There's one thing that because I
know Kyle talked about this with

974
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,200
his first aid. 
I'd cast. 

975
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,300
And if that was this fight or 
flight, but it's actually freeze

976
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:08,100
as part of that, and I kind of 
play off that with say, you're 

977
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,800
never going to rise to the 
occasion, you're going to sink 

978
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,300
to the level of your training. 
There could have been training, 

979
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:14,400
but I also think that there 
needs to be an identity of that 

980
00:48:14,500 --> 00:48:16,100
you sink to the level of your 
planning. 

981
00:48:16,700 --> 00:48:19,500
So when you see the first 
initial thing with this guy 

982
00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:22,500
shows up, he has planned what 
he's going to do. 

983
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:25,800
There's a reason that the rifle 
is staged and he immediately 

984
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200
giving directive. 
He planned it out in his head 

985
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,600
for Or if and when it ever 
happens, this is what I'm going 

986
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,700
to do. 
So our two officers that we see 

987
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:35,900
the body cam footage from that 
have been kind of identified as 

988
00:48:35,900 --> 00:48:37,900
the two Shooters and heroes of 
the scenario. 

989
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:39,700
One of his name is Rex. 
What's his last name? 

990
00:48:39,700 --> 00:48:43,700
Angle triangle Bert Engelbert. 
And then the other one is 

991
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:46,700
Michael. 
I'll have to look it up. 

992
00:48:46,700 --> 00:48:50,600
Yeah, I know it's it's Italian 
and I'm embarrassed a little bit

993
00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,700
just because my buddy makes it 
that he's a, he spent time with 

994
00:48:52,700 --> 00:48:55,500
him, I wrote this down the other
day, it's like calibri but I 

995
00:48:55,500 --> 00:48:58,000
could be wrong and sorry about 
that. 

996
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:02,700
So the thing that people who are
serious, I think in law 

997
00:49:02,700 --> 00:49:06,100
enforcement that are serious and
Military scenarios, do they look

998
00:49:06,100 --> 00:49:08,900
in their downtime and they think
what could go wrong here? 

999
00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,000
And what would my response fee? 
And you're constantly wargaming 

1000
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,100
out the scenario. 
As you mentioned, this is 

1001
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:18,000
Officer, Rex he comes out and 
the first thing he does is he 

1002
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,700
pulls the stage rifle quickly. 
He closes the vehicle and 

1003
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:23,200
secures it back up, so nobody 
gets access to his weapons, 

1004
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:24,900
right? 
These are these are thoughts, 

1005
00:49:24,900 --> 00:49:28,800
you have to have beforehand. 
You don't necessarily Rise to 

1006
00:49:28,808 --> 00:49:30,400
that occasion. 
You forget things if you don't 

1007
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,300
do it that way. 
But one of the things they 

1008
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,900
always train you even at like 
let's say somewhere as 

1009
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,100
non-tactical as Quantico is you 
take the keys for the vehicle 

1010
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600
when you get out, right? 
Because the first thing that 

1011
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,300
happens is your subject gets 
away from you. 

1012
00:49:42,300 --> 00:49:43,700
They're going to get in your 
vehicle and drive off. 

1013
00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:45,700
Now they got your vehicle and 
that's double embarrassment and 

1014
00:49:45,707 --> 00:49:47,500
so is the paperwork as they 
would say in the bureau. 

1015
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,300
But but moreover now this is 
somebody who's been now armed 

1016
00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:51,700
with the vehicle that they 
didn't have before. 

1017
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:54,500
So you take things out of the 
fight by knowing what's in the 

1018
00:49:54,500 --> 00:49:56,000
fight? 
Like knowing the entire 

1019
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,400
situation, awareness of it. 
So fight flight Freeze part of 

1020
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,500
it is is knowing what you're 
going to do next part of it is 

1021
00:50:01,500 --> 00:50:02,300
planning. 
Part of it. 

1022
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:04,700
Is that tactic? 
So 100%. 

1023
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,100
The other thing is, is this is a
guy who was a very serious tool 

1024
00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:10,700
Phil mentioned it as well. 
One of the first things that I 

1025
00:50:10,707 --> 00:50:13,600
saw is that this guy has his 
weapon set up the way that I 

1026
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,900
think law enforcement responses,
should at least one person on 

1027
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:18,600
active shooter. 
Detail should have what they 

1028
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,500
call a low variable, power optic
and LV p 0 and we mentioned that

1029
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:25,300
will actually hear it in the 
video but the other officers are

1030
00:50:25,300 --> 00:50:28,100
aware of this tool. 
Not everybody needs to have 

1031
00:50:28,100 --> 00:50:29,300
that. 
That most people need to be with

1032
00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:30,700
a handgun. 
They need to be with their 

1033
00:50:30,700 --> 00:50:33,200
abilities, to use their hands. 
A handgun is easily stowed in a 

1034
00:50:33,207 --> 00:50:36,000
holster and secured. 
A handgun is good because you 

1035
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:37,700
can open doors and you can move 
things. 

1036
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:39,800
Over rifles, slow you down in 
some ways. 

1037
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:41,800
Most people don't spend enough 
time with a rifle to be good at 

1038
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,900
it guys. 
And SWAT people that spend time 

1039
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:47,300
in tactical environments, spend 
extra time training, but, you 

1040
00:50:47,300 --> 00:50:50,400
know, I don't know if you 
experienced General FBI agents 

1041
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,100
and even General beat cops, 
trying to employ a rifle, it's 

1042
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,000
not impressive. 
I would say it's just a gentle 

1043
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,100
way to said you have a different
way. 

1044
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,100
No, I agree with you. 
I mean there's probably 

1045
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,800
occasions where I said there's 
no magazine and that rifle right

1046
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,000
now, just so, you know, right? 
We've actually seen straight law

1047
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,800
enforcement officers do 
responses like in the state of 

1048
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,600
New Mexico, you know, get 
involved in a shooting and then 

1049
00:51:15,700 --> 00:51:18,400
check their rifle. 
And the thing they did was drop 

1050
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:21,000
the magazine out and rack an 
empty slide and then go into a 

1051
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,100
conflict with an empty gun. 
Yep. 

1052
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:25,600
I mean, there's videos of these 
things happening and the reason 

1053
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,900
why is because weapons 
manipulation is not the thing 

1054
00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:31,000
that they Spent their time on, 
they fall to the level of their 

1055
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:34,300
preparedness, which was none, 
and they know that that's the 

1056
00:51:34,300 --> 00:51:36,300
tool they're supposed to have. 
But they don't how to implement 

1057
00:51:36,300 --> 00:51:38,100
the tool properly. 
They're better off using the 

1058
00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:39,500
tool that they do know how to 
implement. 

1059
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:41,800
And so, in the case of this, 
what we see is really good 

1060
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,400
really good. 
The other challenge that that's 

1061
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:48,200
that alert helps deal with. 
And I think it's worth noting on

1062
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,400
here is the idea of alert and 
active shooter response is that 

1063
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,000
you're going to get people from 
everywhere. 

1064
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,800
When the call goes out, that 
there is an active shooter in a 

1065
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:00,000
school, in a mall, in a church. 
Church, law enforcement entities

1066
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,000
from all over, will respond to 
it and you'll get local 

1067
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,700
sheriff's department. 
You'll get federal agents that 

1068
00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:06,600
are in the area. 
You'll get the local police 

1069
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:08,500
department, which is not the 
same as the sheriff. 

1070
00:52:08,500 --> 00:52:10,200
They may have different radio 
frequencies. 

1071
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,200
A lot of times they'll have the 
mutual Aid channels but what 

1072
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,200
they will not have is always the
same tactics. 

1073
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,000
And so what alert does is it 
fundamentally streamlines, the 

1074
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,800
process. 
Let's not get fancy, we're not 

1075
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:22,500
going to do run the rabbit, 
we're not going to do you know, 

1076
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,100
pieing the corners and all these
kind of things are applying the 

1077
00:52:25,100 --> 00:52:26,600
where they call the the sly 
senpai. 

1078
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,900
Plus 10, 10, plus 10. 
So they're not going to do 

1079
00:52:30,900 --> 00:52:33,700
different clear tactics that are
all everybody has their own like

1080
00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:36,000
best practices and they're 
always as you mentioned it used 

1081
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,800
to be slow and methodical than 
it was quick. 

1082
00:52:37,900 --> 00:52:40,200
You know, speed is our friend. 
There's always this play back 

1083
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:42,800
and forth. 
Alert is the simplest formation.

1084
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,200
The only thing that I saw that 
these guys did and and I will I 

1085
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,700
will give them the, you know, 
I'll buy everyone of them. 

1086
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:53,000
A beer for, not letting good, be
the enemy of the perfect, be the

1087
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,500
enemy of good. 
In this case, they didn't have a

1088
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:58,200
great formation running down the
hallways because Sometimes the 

1089
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,100
guys in the rear were actually 
covering the guys in the front 

1090
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,000
and at that point you have to go
to the safety. 

1091
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,300
Rules will see some of the 
video, but some of the muscles 

1092
00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:09,200
actually flag each other a 
little bit as you mentioned. 

1093
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,100
So what actually in this case, 
in edit mode makes a bad 

1094
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:16,800
decision than no decision and 
there is is on you were behaving

1095
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,100
and there are ways that you can 
do those things. 

1096
00:53:19,100 --> 00:53:21,800
If you are still a bang all the 
safety laws and you break one. 

1097
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:24,000
As long as you don't break all 
the safety laws, you're still 

1098
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,200
good. 
Your fingers off the trigger and

1099
00:53:25,207 --> 00:53:26,700
you flag your buddy. 
It's not good. 

1100
00:53:26,900 --> 00:53:29,100
It's not ideal. 
But I'd rather you get forward 

1101
00:53:29,100 --> 00:53:32,400
and stop someone killing kids. 
So, these guys did the thing 

1102
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,600
that needed to be done and 
sometimes they took a little bit

1103
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:37,000
of leeway with it because they 
were moving quickly and they 

1104
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,300
weren't being perfect, but they 
were definitely good enough. 

1105
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,900
And so that is like, that's the 
message that should be taken 

1106
00:53:42,900 --> 00:53:46,300
away from it. 
Go quickly go direct to threat 

1107
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:49,900
as they as they call it and go 
Stop The Killing immediately. 

1108
00:53:49,900 --> 00:53:51,600
And if that means you put 
yourself In Harm's Way a little 

1109
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:54,900
bit, either from yourself, you 
know, from your own team or from

1110
00:53:55,300 --> 00:53:57,400
the shooter as you mentioned by 
passing. 

1111
00:53:57,500 --> 00:53:59,000
Doors. 
And you know, you're assuming 

1112
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,400
that there's basically only 
threats in that one place where 

1113
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,100
you can hear them which it turns
out to be generally speaking. 

1114
00:54:04,100 --> 00:54:08,700
Statistically that's the case 
then and and they were going off

1115
00:54:08,700 --> 00:54:11,500
Intel to which the one person to
know we have talked about is the

1116
00:54:11,500 --> 00:54:14,600
woman that standing out front 
that meets them, she stood there

1117
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,900
with an active shooter and she 
had no cover and she came out 

1118
00:54:17,900 --> 00:54:21,100
and said there's a shooter that 
you know, that we've locked 

1119
00:54:21,100 --> 00:54:22,700
down. 
Gave them like the essential, 

1120
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:24,100
she didn't say there's multiple 
Shooters. 

1121
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:26,900
She said there's a shooter so 
she could have been mistaken but

1122
00:54:26,900 --> 00:54:28,800
obviously like, That's valuable 
intelligence. 

1123
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,500
And she was brave enough to 
stand out there unarmed and give

1124
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:34,600
that to the guys that are coming
in to save the day. 

1125
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:36,300
All right, let's roll some 
footage. 

1126
00:54:36,700 --> 00:54:39,800
Yeah. 
So as Steve was just saying he 

1127
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,600
comes up on the woman. 
Also let's pause real quick. 

1128
00:54:42,700 --> 00:54:44,500
He just I think people are going
to be at. 

1129
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:48,100
Should you get you guys here? 
Take he here acts around, 

1130
00:54:48,100 --> 00:54:50,600
doesn't he? 
So he's not he's not rolling 

1131
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,500
like that but basically what 
that's pretty standard. 

1132
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,400
Yeah, so most people don't run, 
this is pretty standard. 

1133
00:54:57,500 --> 00:55:00,600
They call it what they call 
trunk ready or something to that

1134
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:01,400
effect. 
Yeah. 

1135
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:03,000
Okay. 
Just you don't want to get sick 

1136
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,800
close because he hit a bump and 
it sends around through the to 

1137
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:07,300
the car, right? 
Blah. 

1138
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,600
At the same time he remembers In
The Heat Of This Moment. 

1139
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,100
He's just spoken of the the 
woman he's racking around, 

1140
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:15,700
right? 
If he forgets to do that, what 

1141
00:55:15,700 --> 00:55:17,700
happens about a minute or two 
later, right? 

1142
00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:19,800
When he presses the trigger. 
Yeah, he's gonna drop, he's 

1143
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:21,800
gonna drop a an empty hammer on 
there. 

1144
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,000
So you know, good heads up. 
This is a thing that this guy is

1145
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,600
prepared for. 
He's prepared to take his weapon

1146
00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,200
and put it into Action, if 
you're not doing that sort of 

1147
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:31,000
thing on a regular basis when 
you remove it here. 

1148
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,100
Here's the one of the rules that
they always talk about know the 

1149
00:55:33,100 --> 00:55:36,400
condition of your weapon, okay? 
The Israelis roll around in law,

1150
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:39,000
enforcement and military 
operations with with no round 

1151
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:42,100
chambered in their handguns. 
So their first move is always to

1152
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,700
rack the slide and direct around
in American law enforcement 

1153
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:47,400
doesn't do that. 
Some have safeties. 

1154
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:50,900
Some know that this is your 
safety as they did in the Black 

1155
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:53,600
Hawk Down movie so family but 
it's true the way that our 

1156
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:57,200
modern Striker file pistols are 
generally concocted unless you 

1157
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,500
put Your finger on the trigger, 
the round will not go off. 

1158
00:55:59,500 --> 00:56:01,500
These are not like revolvers 
where you could theoretically 

1159
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:04,700
slip the hammer and the hammer 
would hit it, just can't happen 

1160
00:56:04,700 --> 00:56:08,100
it the way that they are built, 
there's actually a block inside 

1161
00:56:08,100 --> 00:56:10,000
the machine inside the slide. 
I don't know how many people 

1162
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,100
understand how their their 
weapons work, but it's like a 

1163
00:56:12,107 --> 00:56:14,700
nerd function of mine. 
There's a actual part called the

1164
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:18,400
striker block and it only is 
released under spring pretension

1165
00:56:18,500 --> 00:56:21,400
when you pull the trigger back. 
So, multiple actions have to 

1166
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:22,400
happen. 
That's why they're called, you 

1167
00:56:22,408 --> 00:56:25,300
know, that's why the original 
Glock design was so exciting for

1168
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,900
people in law enforcement, 
because you could, Eva round 

1169
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,300
chambered, you could drop the 
damn thing down the stairwell. 

1170
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:33,600
And unless there was enough 
inertia, to actually trigger, 

1171
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:37,100
not just the, the trigger 
backwards to have it fall 

1172
00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:38,900
backwards. 
It actually has to unlock the 

1173
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:41,100
trigger lock which is a little 
piece in the middle of it. 

1174
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,300
That will not allow you to pull 
the trigger. 

1175
00:56:43,300 --> 00:56:46,000
Without, you know, if just the 
the momentum of the trigger was 

1176
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000
going backwards, it will not 
allow the round of fire. 

1177
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,200
So there's a lot of these 
different safety mechanisms and 

1178
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:51,800
the AR-15 platform a little 
different. 

1179
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,800
A lot of departments choose to 
leave them empty, chamber, 

1180
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:57,900
loaded magazine, and that means 
you're starting with either. 28,

1181
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:01,200
which a lot of people will load.
What is your SWAT team, do 2828,

1182
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:02,800
okay? 
Or 30. 

1183
00:57:02,900 --> 00:57:05,800
Here's the thing, you know, 
what's really cheap Springs and 

1184
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:07,800
magazines? 
They cost, 10 bucks to replace 

1185
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,000
the faulty magazine, it cost, 
two bucks to replace a faulty 

1186
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,600
spring in your magazine. 
So anybody that's doing those 

1187
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,700
sort of things like I know there
are arguments in front of it. 

1188
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:18,000
It's even funnier to me, that. 
You'd rather have two less 

1189
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,800
rounds and you save yourself to 
dollars in like eight years. 

1190
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,200
When the spring is finally worn 
out. 

1191
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,000
It's one of those fun 
governmental arguments where 

1192
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,200
it's just like seriously. 
Like I know the government 

1193
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,500
doesn't understand what's going 
on there. 

1194
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:30,900
Somebody made that policy, I 
always carry 30. 

1195
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:34,300
Just so, you know, I'd rather 
have two extra rounds because 

1196
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:37,100
that's why I'm carrying a rifle 
in the first place anyway. 

1197
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:39,600
So okay, so they're carrying a 
full magazine, he locks the 

1198
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,400
thing here acts around and then 
he's approaching the thing that 

1199
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,100
I love out here outside. 
He's yelling. 

1200
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,400
Let's go, let's go, let's go. 
He's putting people into that 

1201
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:51,400
mindset. 
You'll see this on social media,

1202
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,500
all the time. 
Whenever something is happening 

1203
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:56,000
where you're moving, you're 
saying the thing that people 

1204
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,100
need to hear, people always like
right out of that. 

1205
00:57:58,100 --> 00:58:01,600
Let's go. 
You know, like, yeah, I see it 

1206
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,800
all the time. 
Let's Joe is our general, it's a

1207
00:58:03,808 --> 00:58:05,200
thing right now, for our 
generation. 

1208
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Oh yep. 
Yep. 

1209
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,100
Between the age of 25 and 50, 
right now. 

1210
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,400
Let's go is like we're doing the
thing. 

1211
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:15,100
Whatever the thing is, it's the 
same as the the 911 like let's 

1212
00:58:15,100 --> 00:58:18,000
roll. 
It's it's the guys on the on a 

1213
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,100
flight 93 that said let's Roll. 
Yes. 

1214
00:58:20,100 --> 00:58:21,900
Right. 
It is it is a means you just 

1215
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,300
have to start the momentum 
because that was the problem 

1216
00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:26,700
with the ivaldi. 
Nobody started the momentum. 

1217
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,700
That's right, the whole 
situation could be different one

1218
00:58:29,700 --> 00:58:35,200
guy, let's go. 
This is the this whole video and

1219
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,600
it kind of gives me some goose 
bumps on. 

1220
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,800
It is a man getting called up to
the Super Bowl. 

1221
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:42,300
This is the Super Bowl of 
masculinity. 

1222
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,400
You are now about to put your 
From a line for kids, it really 

1223
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,400
is, it's the Super Bowl of 
masculinity and you didn't know 

1224
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:49,800
that. 
When you woke up this morning, 

1225
00:58:50,100 --> 00:58:51,800
you didn't know it. 
When you stretched out and put 

1226
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,100
on your uniform, you didn't know
it. 

1227
00:58:53,100 --> 00:58:56,400
When you roll them all with your
family and you were going to 

1228
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,100
freaking, you know, Banana 
Republic, even though you hate 

1229
00:58:59,100 --> 00:59:01,000
it, because that's where your 
wife had to do a return because 

1230
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,400
somebody decided to buy you 
something on the registry, like 

1231
00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:05,300
all of the things, right? 
You're there. 

1232
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,800
And you are now, you are called 
up instantaneously into the 

1233
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:09,300
Super Bowl. 
This guy, got the call active 

1234
00:59:09,300 --> 00:59:12,400
shooter, it's Super Bowl time 
and they went out there and 

1235
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,600
played like Champions and that's
the thing that is Why this 

1236
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,000
video? 
It gives me like a lot of Hope 

1237
00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400
even though it's the worst 
possible scenario. 

1238
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,200
It could have been so much so 
much worse because this person 

1239
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,600
went and did not care about 
human life and we got like a 

1240
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,600
bunch of men that basically said
I'm ready to throw myself in the

1241
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,900
Gap right now and you know, call
it what it is. 

1242
00:59:32,900 --> 00:59:35,700
But if men that went in that 
door doesn't mean it couldn't 

1243
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:37,100
have been women that just 
wasn't. 

1244
00:59:37,100 --> 00:59:39,500
That's not what it was. 
We saw we saw dudes going in 

1245
00:59:39,500 --> 00:59:41,900
there doing the thing that they 
signed up to two and they're 

1246
00:59:41,900 --> 00:59:44,000
proving to you that what their 
oath was serious. 

1247
00:59:44,500 --> 00:59:46,700
And that's the other piece as 
you know, are sort of suspended.

1248
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:52,000
Oil group likes to say, if 
somebody is not willing to If 

1249
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,900
they're not willing to stand up 
and maybe lose their job over 

1250
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:56,900
something like what are the odds
are willing to lose their life 

1251
00:59:56,900 --> 00:59:59,100
over it? 
These guys are showing what it's

1252
00:59:59,100 --> 01:00:01,600
really about. 
So once again it's just it's 

1253
01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:03,700
encouraging to me in a big way. 
All right, Phil you're going to 

1254
01:00:03,707 --> 01:00:05,200
do some narration and kind of 
talk us through. 

1255
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:06,800
It will stop because I've seen 
this video enough times. 

1256
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:10,500
Yeah, you'll be able to recite 
it from memory. 

1257
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:13,500
So Rex is coming up to the door.
He's already passed the woman 

1258
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,300
the cavalry's rolling in, and I 
think he finds out that the door

1259
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:21,600
is locked. 
So, heads up move, he gets keys 

1260
01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,200
from one of the two people 
standing outside the man outside

1261
01:00:24,500 --> 01:00:27,000
the super super heads-up move. 
This is one of those things like

1262
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:29,000
it saves you from having to 
breach, a bunch of X, you know, 

1263
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,800
interior doors because people 
can fart. 

1264
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,100
Like what do we see that happen?
That was one of the things that 

1265
01:00:34,100 --> 01:00:36,000
happen in Uvalde, right? 
Okay. 

1266
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:37,400
Yeah, they way they have the 
keys. 

1267
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:41,100
So the same thing that's 
happening here is you know, 

1268
01:00:41,100 --> 01:00:45,400
immediately as soon as they go 
in the fire alarm is going, 

1269
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:48,300
right? 
I actually like that a lot. 

1270
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:49,800
I mean, that's as real as it 
gets. 

1271
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,600
Moreover, if they weren't in the
right mindset that before they 

1272
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:58,700
got in the door like what's 
what's that's telling you 

1273
01:00:58,700 --> 01:01:00,100
everything about a fire alarm 
tells us. 

1274
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:02,900
There's an emergency, there's 
something wrong inside. 

1275
01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:07,400
Noah one of the children who 
lost her life was trying to get 

1276
01:01:07,400 --> 01:01:09,900
to the fire alarm, to pull it 
down when she got shot. 

1277
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,200
Yep. 
She even at that age, she was 

1278
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,300
trying to do something that's 
heart-wrenching. 

1279
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,000
Okay, so they've already 
searched the first door, they're

1280
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,700
going down the hallway. 
Looking to the door on the 

1281
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:23,100
right. 
So, what we'll notice is they 

1282
01:01:23,100 --> 01:01:26,500
open their doing, what, what I 
learned as is called Rolling 

1283
01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:28,900
Thunder. 
Jibber-jabber call it that when 

1284
01:01:28,900 --> 01:01:31,700
you were no. 
But it sounds sounds pretty 

1285
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:34,100
sick. 
So, in the, this is a military 

1286
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:37,000
tactic of moving quickly, down a
hallway and rolling through. 

1287
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,100
As you're just, you're hitting 
a, you're rolling into the room,

1288
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:41,000
you're doing the fastest clear 
possible, you're rolling back 

1289
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:43,500
out, you're not stacking up and 
going back into the hallway, 

1290
01:01:43,500 --> 01:01:46,500
each time you're just going, is 
it? 

1291
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,200
Let's go Guy. 
The one officer with the shotgun

1292
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:52,100
goes to stack, A cup and he 
pushed and he pushed them 

1293
01:01:52,100 --> 01:01:54,800
through the door to direct say 
we're not doing that. 

1294
01:01:55,100 --> 01:01:59,100
Yeah so officer Rex Engelbert is
just literally like sending guys

1295
01:01:59,100 --> 01:02:00,800
and he's quarterbacking it right
away. 

1296
01:02:00,900 --> 01:02:03,900
I don't know if he's a assume, 
he's a tactical training guy 

1297
01:02:03,900 --> 01:02:06,000
he's probably on their SWAT team
but I haven't read anything 

1298
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,700
about it, but he has the mindset
that knows what's going on. 

1299
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:14,500
He's looking at the entire thing
and he's quarterbacking people, 

1300
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,400
which is so much more important 
than being. 

1301
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:19,000
The guy who gets to go in first 
who gets to breach any given 

1302
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,100
door. 
And you can speak this a little 

1303
01:02:22,100 --> 01:02:25,800
bit to there's a rookie sort of 
mentality. 

1304
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:27,800
When you're like, I want to be 
the first guy through the door. 

1305
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:30,100
I want to be the guy that's the 
preacher I want to do the thing.

1306
01:02:30,700 --> 01:02:33,600
The really, really serious guy 
is the guy who's this, you know,

1307
01:02:33,607 --> 01:02:35,900
the assistant team leader of the
team leader, who has the most 

1308
01:02:35,900 --> 01:02:38,000
experience in pulling himself 
out of it. 

1309
01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:40,800
He may not get the so-called 
action, which is kind of what 

1310
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:42,300
everybody that is the Super 
Bowl. 

1311
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,900
But what he does have is 
situational awareness of 

1312
01:02:44,900 --> 01:02:47,300
everything and he's sending in 
guys, that makes him a force 

1313
01:02:47,300 --> 01:02:50,900
multiplier to be able to 
manipulate He's got now seven 

1314
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:53,700
guns in the fight and he's just 
sending each gun in each. 

1315
01:02:53,700 --> 01:02:56,000
One of these guys is just doing 
a very small piece of the pie 

1316
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:57,800
and he's got to see it all. 
Yeah. 

1317
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:00,000
I mean whatever we trained it. 
I mean yeah. 

1318
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,600
It was way easier to be first. 
Got through the door because you

1319
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,300
just listen to what you're told.
You're just automatic. 

1320
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,500
And whenever the rep came up to 
like, all right, you're going to

1321
01:03:07,500 --> 01:03:10,200
drive the train this time. 
I will be like, I knew these 

1322
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,800
guys are my friends and I was 
like, nervous. 

1323
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,500
Well I'm not, I don't know if 
I'm ready to do that. 

1324
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:19,400
It's way harder. 
And and you're the one who's 

1325
01:03:19,400 --> 01:03:21,800
you're assuming responsibility, 
that's the burden of command. 

1326
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:23,300
I mean, it's just the nature. 
It doesn't matter whether you're

1327
01:03:23,300 --> 01:03:24,800
doing law enforcement or 
military clears. 

1328
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:27,700
You're the guy that's going to 
have to send people to do the 

1329
01:03:27,700 --> 01:03:30,600
thing and they're going to do 
what you say. 

1330
01:03:31,300 --> 01:03:33,700
You've got to be really good, 
you got to be on point and he's 

1331
01:03:33,700 --> 01:03:36,100
just he's ice cold when he's 
running through the stuff. 

1332
01:03:36,100 --> 01:03:38,400
It's so good to watch. 
Like I said, it's really 

1333
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:39,400
reassuring. 
All right. 

1334
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,700
Are you still rolling some video
here? 

1335
01:03:40,700 --> 01:03:42,800
Yeah. 
So, they've gone through most of

1336
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,600
the first floor. 
It looks like, and now they're 

1337
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,100
hitting probably what looks like
their first door that leads. 

1338
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,200
Leads upstairs. 
So during that time, they're 

1339
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,200
hearing a lot of the effects. 
They finally heard the gunshots 

1340
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:58,200
and what they did is they 
there's to instincts the guys 

1341
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,400
that are clearing rooms are 
looking to clear rooms because 

1342
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,000
once you get into the track of 
doing that, that's what they're 

1343
01:04:02,008 --> 01:04:04,100
going to do. 
They want to just you know keep 

1344
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:06,000
doing that methodical thing 
because that's what feels good. 

1345
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,300
That's the repetition and and 
this officer Engelbert bike 

1346
01:04:09,300 --> 01:04:11,400
breaks them out of that and he 
was like setting them up the 

1347
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,400
stairs. 
And so everybody starts like, 

1348
01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,800
they're like, oh yeah. 
And he's literally, he's the guy

1349
01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:17,900
in the back, sending everybody 
forward. 

1350
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,400
Letting him know where they need
to be, which is upstairs, 

1351
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,500
engaging the threat. 
And then what we'll see. 

1352
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:25,300
Are we still rolling through it?
Can you just clarify something 

1353
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:27,200
because you both probably know 
something about this? 

1354
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,800
That most people don't what 
instigated the gunfire is that? 

1355
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:35,400
The first set of officers coming
upon her, or would she this is 

1356
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:38,400
spectacular Library. 
I believe what she did is she 

1357
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,200
was shooting through the window 
to be able to Port the window 

1358
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:42,800
because she was setting up to 
Ambush. 

1359
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,600
Anybody coming over that she was
setting up an OverWatch position

1360
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:46,900
got it. 
Okay. 

1361
01:04:47,100 --> 01:04:50,200
So when she God, that that 
window was open and she is 

1362
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:52,500
basically has gone and basically
try to set up so that she can 

1363
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:55,100
hit responders which is a pretty
heads-up move. 

1364
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:56,500
And really, really gross. 
Yeah. 

1365
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:59,700
Thank God, that guy's they were 
thrown around because I heard 

1366
01:04:59,700 --> 01:05:01,300
one call out that he was 
reloading. 

1367
01:05:02,600 --> 01:05:04,500
Interesting. 
Yeah, I heard reloading. 

1368
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:07,200
And at somebody asked me, like, 
do you think they were saying 

1369
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,300
she's reloading? 
So, we got to go now and I was 

1370
01:05:09,300 --> 01:05:11,600
like, no, you call out reloading
to give everybody awareness 

1371
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:13,700
that. 
You're, I need somebody on my 

1372
01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:16,400
shoulder right now so I can get 
back up in the fight. 

1373
01:05:16,700 --> 01:05:18,600
So they might have been gunfight
Don't know. 

1374
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:20,400
That's, that's an interesting 
point. 

1375
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,000
And I don't think we've seen 
enough that they're they're 

1376
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,200
going to be exploiting the scene
for a while we'll talk about why

1377
01:05:24,200 --> 01:05:29,800
the FBI took the manifesto. 
But, you know, the the stuff 

1378
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:32,100
that we can see on the body cam 
as it is, it looked like she had

1379
01:05:32,100 --> 01:05:33,300
poured the window that she had 
broken out. 

1380
01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:35,300
I guess that could have been 
from from somebody shooting at 

1381
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:38,000
her and her not being hit yet 
possibility. 

1382
01:05:38,700 --> 01:05:42,100
That being said, they get up the
stairwell and what you'll see is

1383
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,100
somebody makes a really heads up
call because exchanging gunfire 

1384
01:05:46,100 --> 01:05:48,600
with a handgun. 
Most guys are using iron Sites. 

1385
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,900
Their accuracy. 
Particularly in this scenario is

1386
01:05:50,900 --> 01:05:54,600
going to be low at 15 plus yards
and that shot. 

1387
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:55,800
What do you think that was maybe
20. 

1388
01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:58,600
Yep. 
Yeah problems we had is what 

1389
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,200
we're looking at body cams, we 
don't have really good 

1390
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:02,600
perspective but the depth of it 
you're looking at probably a 60 

1391
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,400
or 75 foot shot for most people 
with a handgun. 

1392
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:13,400
That is not a a fast, you know. 
Direct engagement distance where

1393
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,900
they're going to be high 
confidence hits, doesn't mean 

1394
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:18,000
that it can't be done. 
I feel very comfortable shooting

1395
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:20,000
at that distance, but I shoot a 
red dot and if you're not 

1396
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:23,300
shooting a red dot pistol, your 
point of aim, your point of 

1397
01:06:23,300 --> 01:06:26,000
impact is going to be like your 
front sight is covering a big, 

1398
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,000
big distance. 
So only people that are Bullseye

1399
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,700
shooters that are really good at
shooting that distance and then 

1400
01:06:30,700 --> 01:06:32,300
you got to add the fact that 
there might be around, is coming

1401
01:06:32,300 --> 01:06:34,000
back at you. 
Like it's not a handgun distance

1402
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,700
for most people, especially not 
for most local like law 

1403
01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:39,000
enforcement, the dudes, that 
train at the highest level, 

1404
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,600
maybe that are in the military. 
And are doing these kind of 

1405
01:06:42,600 --> 01:06:44,000
things, and that's their 
engagement distance. 

1406
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:47,900
But for most people, once you 
get outside of that 15 yards, 

1407
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:50,900
that's a pretty comfortable 
rifle distance, going and most 

1408
01:06:50,900 --> 01:06:55,300
law enforcement distances are, 
you know, 15 yards is rifle all 

1409
01:06:55,300 --> 01:06:57,300
the way out to about a hundred 
and then they don't really get 

1410
01:06:57,300 --> 01:06:59,900
much longer than that. 
For most law enforcement rifle 

1411
01:06:59,900 --> 01:07:02,300
engagements in this country. 
I'm sure you guys trained the 

1412
01:07:02,300 --> 01:07:03,500
same way when you're doing 
Squad. 

1413
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,400
Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, it's a bill with a

1414
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:06,900
range of 50. 
That's the qual. 

1415
01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:10,400
The koalas 50, you're not very 
often even going beyond that. 

1416
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:13,900
But yeah, you own Five yards, 
especially with an optic, and 

1417
01:07:13,900 --> 01:07:17,600
this guy's optic. 
That's easy day. 

1418
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:19,600
Yeah. 
So so rectangle, bird. 

1419
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,100
In this case, he's running up 
with. 

1420
01:07:21,100 --> 01:07:23,800
I don't I didn't see the make on
the rifle, but he's carrying a 

1421
01:07:23,900 --> 01:07:25,300
Vortex. 
Razor you could tell by the 

1422
01:07:25,300 --> 01:07:28,300
color of it, he's got a throw 
lever which is smart, there's 

1423
01:07:28,300 --> 01:07:30,300
different ones you can use. 
I use a breakaway version of 

1424
01:07:30,300 --> 01:07:32,300
that but a similar I think I 
have the same exact thing on top

1425
01:07:32,300 --> 01:07:35,400
of my my Bureau rifle. 
So this is a really, really good

1426
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,100
setup what it does. 
And if you don't know guns, the,

1427
01:07:38,100 --> 01:07:40,500
it's a 12-6. 
So that means 1 means no, 

1428
01:07:40,500 --> 01:07:43,500
magnification is Just the same 
power that you normally see and 

1429
01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:45,300
there's a Crosshair in there 
with a little dot that you could

1430
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:46,800
turn on. 
I don't know if I saw him 

1431
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:48,300
activate it, it doesn't matter 
at all. 

1432
01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:50,700
He didn't need it for that sort 
of environment. 

1433
01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:54,100
But then you have the ability to
flip it up to 6 and that gives 

1434
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,500
you 6 x magnification for what 
you're looking at. 

1435
01:07:56,500 --> 01:08:01,100
So you're 25-yard shot looks 
like it's six times closer which

1436
01:08:01,100 --> 01:08:06,200
makes things pretty easy to deal
with and I've had you know sub 2

1437
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:08,900
inch groups one and a half inch 
groups at 200 yards. 

1438
01:08:09,100 --> 01:08:11,400
Five round groups with that 
exact same setup that he's 

1439
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:14,100
Running with that optic on top 
of it, you know, benched 

1440
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,000
obviously like throwing it down 
on the ground and putting a 

1441
01:08:16,008 --> 01:08:18,200
backpack or something. 
But you can get very, very 

1442
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:21,000
precise from a long way out with
a decent rifle and I'm sure it 

1443
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:22,700
was a decent rifle. 
So he goes into that 

1444
01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:27,800
20-something yard encounter and 
he's able to do a very, very 

1445
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,000
Precision shot as opposed to 
like a red dot. 

1446
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,600
Like a, like a name Point like 
most people do to em away. 

1447
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:34,800
Means it's covering. 
What is it covering? 

1448
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,100
Like maybe a 6 inch is that 
right? 

1449
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,200
No, no. 
It's the opposite of that two 

1450
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:44,100
inches at 100. 
It will cover one inch at 50. 

1451
01:08:44,300 --> 01:08:47,500
So probably like a half inch. 
So even that the to MOA dot is 

1452
01:08:47,500 --> 01:08:50,000
covering a very small area on 
that, but he's got the ability 

1453
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:52,000
of being able to look very, very
closely at what he's getting 

1454
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:55,100
into and taking that shot. 
Which is why somebody else. 

1455
01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:59,200
I think we developed we debated,
that's pretty sure the backwards

1456
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:05,500
hat guy says lvp push LV push 
which is that means that guy you

1457
01:09:05,500 --> 01:09:08,800
know that guy's a tackleberry to
Because I'm pretty sure he had a

1458
01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:14,399
red dot. 
He in the fog of War went to, 

1459
01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:18,500
like I'm a gun nut and recognize
that another guy had the tool 

1460
01:09:18,500 --> 01:09:23,700
that they needed to optimize the
situation and said it again and 

1461
01:09:23,700 --> 01:09:25,500
back to, we're gonna quarterback
the situation. 

1462
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:28,899
I don't need to be throwing this
round when this guy has the way 

1463
01:09:28,899 --> 01:09:32,600
to end, this fight right away 
and looked him up and he did. 

1464
01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:35,399
And so you see, you see, Rex 
basically run through the hall. 

1465
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,200
Bypass a half dozen guys, Get 
himself into a, you know, a 

1466
01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:42,000
angle, where he's going to come 
around the corner, addresses, 

1467
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,800
the threat right away, and sends
rounds that way with the, with 

1468
01:09:44,800 --> 01:09:47,800
this optic on the rifle. 
Even if you did, I don't even 

1469
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:51,000
know if he had boosted 26, I run
Hmong. 

1470
01:09:51,500 --> 01:09:54,800
So the way I run mine and this 
is, I think the most optimal 

1471
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,200
scenario. 
I've tried it. 

1472
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,700
I've tried all the scenarios and
all the different object 

1473
01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:03,400
combinations, but I run a LV p 0
on the top. 

1474
01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:06,900
And on top of that, I have an 
arm are Which is a little red 

1475
01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:10,000
dot and so I can do anything 
inside a 50 or anything. 

1476
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:12,200
That's really quick and close. 
I've got a, you know, about a 

1477
01:10:12,208 --> 01:10:14,400
two-inch mechanical offset. 
So I'm two inches high. 

1478
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,700
The dot is going to be, you 
know, if I may be the dot is 

1479
01:10:16,700 --> 01:10:20,100
here, I'm going to hit here kind
of thing, you know, just a 

1480
01:10:20,100 --> 01:10:21,400
little bit. 
I'm going to my dad's going to 

1481
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,000
be high of my shot indoors, but 
when it comes to a longer shot, 

1482
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:28,900
you know, and 20 is not long, 
but it might be the right move. 

1483
01:10:28,900 --> 01:10:30,800
When you're running up there, 
you can literally just jump down

1484
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,600
and you've got 6 x 
magnification. 

1485
01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,200
You've got a very precise shot. 
Great for, you know, hostage 

1486
01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:37,400
scenarios, I've seen a law 
enforcement officer, I think it 

1487
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:40,500
was in Phoenix who addressed a 
subject that was holding a gun 

1488
01:10:40,900 --> 01:10:44,900
to a baby like a one-year-old 
and it was his own baby. 

1489
01:10:44,900 --> 01:10:47,300
That was the other wild thing 
but this happened maybe two 

1490
01:10:47,300 --> 01:10:49,600
months back. 
I'm sorry, two years back and 

1491
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:51,300
the officer has the same exact 
setup. 

1492
01:10:51,300 --> 01:10:53,700
He braces it on the edge of the 
car, he literally gets out. 

1493
01:10:53,700 --> 01:10:55,700
Racks. 
The round jumps up, sees the 

1494
01:10:55,700 --> 01:10:58,100
threat, is that there is a gun 
to the baby's head and he drops 

1495
01:10:58,100 --> 01:11:01,300
the guy with head shots because 
he has that confidence at 75 

1496
01:11:01,300 --> 01:11:03,800
yards, even though he's pulled 
back far in the fight. 

1497
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,600
That's an easy shot from that 
distance. 

1498
01:11:05,900 --> 01:11:08,700
It's just it's a really powerful
tool and like I said, it shows 

1499
01:11:08,700 --> 01:11:10,200
that he thought about this 
scenario. 

1500
01:11:10,300 --> 01:11:12,700
Well, before it ever came up, he
knew that he was going to have 

1501
01:11:12,700 --> 01:11:15,200
the right tool, I'd be really 
curious to know if he spent his 

1502
01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:16,800
own money on it or for 
Department gave it to him. 

1503
01:11:17,100 --> 01:11:19,200
Either way, it's a heads-up move
to be able to put that thing 

1504
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,600
into the fight. 
Phil, what do we what we looking

1505
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:22,800
at the end of this thing coming 
up? 

1506
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,000
Yeah, we are, so he's obviously 
behind the other officers is 

1507
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000
probably about a half dozen 
officers who beat him to the 

1508
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:31,200
second floor. 
But as Steve alluded to and I 

1509
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,400
don't know if it's now earlier 
folks and re-watch the video, 

1510
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:36,500
somebody's Callin for the Be 
right. 

1511
01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:38,800
So he's gonna seize. 
The officers is coming around 

1512
01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:41,600
the corner. 
He's walking down the hall. 

1513
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,400
They hear the gunshots. 
He's heading into what looks 

1514
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:48,700
like like the library area. 
He's slicing the pie and now 

1515
01:11:48,700 --> 01:11:49,700
he's the target. 
Bang bang. 

1516
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,700
Bang instantaneously. 
As soon as he lined to sightsee 

1517
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:54,000
took the shot. 
Well, how many shots did he 

1518
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,000
take? 
Like, three, two or three of 

1519
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,700
them? 
Something that affect the other 

1520
01:11:57,700 --> 01:11:59,900
thing that's really heads. 
Up is then, he goes down off gun

1521
01:11:59,900 --> 01:12:01,400
and the two officers that are 
with. 

1522
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:03,700
These are like your hands guys, 
you're responding officers are 

1523
01:12:03,700 --> 01:12:05,600
running up and they were 
covering down, you know, they 

1524
01:12:05,900 --> 01:12:08,700
Threat balls. 
So this is this and they don't 

1525
01:12:08,700 --> 01:12:10,700
know who this woman is in or 
anything about her what she's 

1526
01:12:10,700 --> 01:12:13,000
got going on, but then you see 
the two officers basically come 

1527
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,500
in and approach, really, really 
quick gun on, you know, start 

1528
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:17,800
giving commands and things like 
that. 

1529
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:20,300
And they ended up shooting again
because it looks like sounds 

1530
01:12:20,300 --> 01:12:22,800
like she had her hand either on 
the weapon or wasn't releasing 

1531
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:24,400
the weapon. 
And they got to do what they got

1532
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:29,400
to do up that that close. 
But just just textbook for an 

1533
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:32,300
awful situation. 
Because aggression wins the day 

1534
01:12:32,300 --> 01:12:35,100
in that scenario, I think every 
single time, that's, it's 

1535
01:12:35,100 --> 01:12:36,800
pushing it to do. 
Ooh, something I used to 

1536
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,800
actually encourage that during 
emergency medicine, it's like, 

1537
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,800
what is your job? 
Your job is to do something and 

1538
01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:46,700
doing. 
Doing some action is better than

1539
01:12:46,700 --> 01:12:48,700
freezing and trying to figure 
out what the right action is 

1540
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,000
like good enough, in this case 
and they just stablish momentum.

1541
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:55,700
I mean, because even if you make
the wrong call, you have enough 

1542
01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:59,500
momentum that you can overcome 
that, it's that instinct to just

1543
01:12:59,500 --> 01:13:01,200
freeze. 
And then you have paralysis by 

1544
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:03,600
analysis and that's how you wind
up with Uvalde. 

1545
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,500
Were you have these dozens of 
guys in the hallway? 

1546
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:06,400
There? 
Sitting there. 

1547
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:08,400
What are we doing? 
What are we doing? 

1548
01:13:09,100 --> 01:13:11,100
Yeah, people always forget what 
the word inertia is about, 

1549
01:13:11,100 --> 01:13:12,700
right? 
But it's bodies at rest tends to

1550
01:13:12,708 --> 01:13:14,400
stay at rest and Bodies in 
Motion. 

1551
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,200
Tend to stay in motion and these
guys create that first motion 

1552
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,900
starting from yelling. 
Let's go and starting from 

1553
01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:22,000
getting the keys. 
I mean, everything about this is

1554
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,300
heads up getting the keys 
pushing through sending guys, 

1555
01:13:25,300 --> 01:13:26,900
through the door. 
It's like he's setting the 

1556
01:13:26,900 --> 01:13:32,100
first, even the first door, he's
setting the precedent that we're

1557
01:13:32,100 --> 01:13:34,800
not stacking up like and they 
don't have to know the same 

1558
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,100
tactics, it's like It in there 
and the guys I've got it and 

1559
01:13:37,108 --> 01:13:39,800
then everybody starts flowing 
and you see him flown into rooms

1560
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,600
and flowing out. 
And then moving and the guy 

1561
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,100
who's seeing it all is in the 
back, as it should be. 

1562
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:46,400
He's the last guy to get to the 
fight but he also has the tool 

1563
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:47,500
that's going to end it right 
then. 

1564
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:49,500
So he and he doesn't hesitate 
the minute. 

1565
01:13:49,500 --> 01:13:51,500
He's called up boom. 
Somebody else has the 

1566
01:13:51,500 --> 01:13:53,300
wherewithal to do it. 
I mean, everything about this is

1567
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:56,800
just like It's the opposite of 
Uvalde. 

1568
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,700
And, every single time I saw one
of those silly memes, it's like 

1569
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:00,600
the big muscle guy that's like 
talking to the, like, the 

1570
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:03,100
blonde, girl, that's like in the
corner of the of a party or 

1571
01:14:03,100 --> 01:14:06,900
something and it's like, you 
know, it's Nashville PD and he's

1572
01:14:06,900 --> 01:14:09,000
the big muscular guy, he's like,
yelling whatever he's saying at 

1573
01:14:09,008 --> 01:14:11,700
the party and then there's like 
you've all these like and you 

1574
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:15,000
hate to put that on them because
I know they were probably trying

1575
01:14:15,000 --> 01:14:16,400
to do the best that they could 
do right there. 

1576
01:14:16,900 --> 01:14:19,000
But they just you know, what do 
they always say that? 

1577
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,500
You know, you expose your ass 
when you do stuff. 

1578
01:14:20,500 --> 01:14:24,000
Like just so badly, everyone 
knows and it's become a punch 

1579
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:27,600
line and It's these will be 
shown side by side for a long, 

1580
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,700
long time. 
I think in both academies, and 

1581
01:14:29,700 --> 01:14:32,500
in tactical schools, and an 
alert trainings for law 

1582
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:33,900
enforcement officers, all over 
the country. 

1583
01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:37,200
This is how you don't do it. 
You don't freeze up and you 

1584
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,600
don't wait, you get in there and
you stopped it because you can 

1585
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,400
stop it right away. 
You don't let it happen any 

1586
01:14:41,400 --> 01:14:43,800
further. 
And these guys did it, they did 

1587
01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:44,900
the work. 
Yep. 

1588
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:46,900
He did. 
And their Heroes, all of them. 

1589
01:14:47,800 --> 01:14:51,300
So we had said, I have Mike's 
portion to I think it's worth 

1590
01:14:51,300 --> 01:14:54,200
going through that real quick 
because, yeah, sure, describe 

1591
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:54,800
it. 
Yeah. 

1592
01:14:54,900 --> 01:14:57,900
Average person might have some 
questions about, you know, why 

1593
01:14:57,900 --> 01:15:00,500
he did what he did. 
So let's take a look. 

1594
01:15:00,500 --> 01:15:04,500
All right, so and all right, you
hear what Mike did? 

1595
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:10,000
But we're going to see it from 
his body camera face is blurred 

1596
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:12,100
out here. 
They're chatting commands. 

1597
01:15:12,100 --> 01:15:14,800
They don't necessarily know what
her condition is. 

1598
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:19,000
Rex, is kind of like third 
person walking up there, pushing

1599
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:21,100
weapons away and then it goes to
Black. 

1600
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:25,500
So now we're on Michael Clauses,
body cam footage, He goes right 

1601
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:27,700
up the stairs right away. 
I'm not sure what part of the 

1602
01:15:27,700 --> 01:15:29,400
building he's in but it's pretty
clear. 

1603
01:15:29,500 --> 01:15:31,300
It's clear right away. 
He's going to the second floor, 

1604
01:15:34,300 --> 01:15:36,300
that makes sense. 
So here's the thing they're 

1605
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:38,400
addressing on multiple floors. 
Like if you're on a different 

1606
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,500
floor. 
Okay. 

1607
01:15:39,500 --> 01:15:42,400
That whatever is look he had 
for, he's like one of four 

1608
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:43,500
officers. 
The door was locked. 

1609
01:15:43,500 --> 01:15:47,700
They're going back downstairs. 
Got it interesting. 

1610
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:50,200
They find it open door on the 
first floor. 

1611
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:52,500
Now, this probably the six 
officers at this point. 

1612
01:15:53,300 --> 01:15:54,500
Flute. 
Looks like there may be a new 

1613
01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:58,400
gymnasium. 
That's right. 

1614
01:15:58,900 --> 01:16:00,000
Yeah, now the whole Cavalry 
here. 

1615
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,800
There's like almost a dozen 
guys. 

1616
01:16:03,700 --> 01:16:07,300
Okay, now they're they've caught
up with Rex's team in that kind 

1617
01:16:07,300 --> 01:16:09,400
of central location of looks 
like, you know, check in with a 

1618
01:16:09,407 --> 01:16:14,600
secretary. 
Lots of lock doors, check with 

1619
01:16:14,600 --> 01:16:21,500
checking bathrooms. 
Same first floor. 

1620
01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:29,300
Fire alarm, still going off the 
pausing for a moment here but I 

1621
01:16:29,300 --> 01:16:31,100
think it's pretty clear. 
They're about to go upstairs. 

1622
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:39,600
Yep. 
So up the stairwell. 

1623
01:16:41,100 --> 01:16:45,200
Mike's got 23, got officers in 
front of him, he's pushing 

1624
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:50,500
through. 
Okay, now they're saying shots 

1625
01:16:50,500 --> 01:16:53,400
fired. 
So, this will be the point where

1626
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,400
they're kind of pinned out 
waiting for Rex to show up. 

1627
01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,100
So, they're kind of walking 
through that door. 

1628
01:17:03,100 --> 01:17:05,700
That's everybody's seen. 
I said library before. 

1629
01:17:05,700 --> 01:17:07,700
I'm not sure what it is, but 
it's kind of like an upstairs 

1630
01:17:07,700 --> 01:17:13,400
rotunda and here's wrecks. 
On the Left Bank, Michael's got 

1631
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:15,600
a handgun. 
He kind of walks up. 

1632
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:19,700
S at he shoots four times, he 
shout, yeah, he's moving. 

1633
01:17:19,700 --> 01:17:22,100
Stop moving. 
He's coming in from. 

1634
01:17:22,300 --> 01:17:24,100
There's another officer that 
came in from the left and the 

1635
01:17:24,100 --> 01:17:25,800
two of them. 
Basically, moved kind of pinched

1636
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:28,400
in, which put the rifle out of 
play because they were down 

1637
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,700
range data point. 
Yep. 

1638
01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:31,300
And you can see the broken glass
Ass. 

1639
01:17:31,300 --> 01:17:33,400
He's saying suspect down suspect
down. 

1640
01:17:33,700 --> 01:17:38,300
So I think from, you know, the 
general population standpoint 

1641
01:17:38,300 --> 01:17:41,100
like their question would be hey
Rex is already shot this person?

1642
01:17:41,500 --> 01:17:48,500
Why did Mike have to shoot him? 
Well you don't you don't know. 

1643
01:17:48,500 --> 01:17:52,200
I mean it's so they you can tell
from the officer who has the 

1644
01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:55,500
shotgun who again good on him 
and got everybody else. 

1645
01:17:55,500 --> 01:17:58,800
He's the only one giving his 
giving verbal commands for The 

1646
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,300
Temptations. 
Going to be for like half a 

1647
01:18:00,308 --> 01:18:02,100
dozen dudes, to be screaming 
different things at the same 

1648
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:04,900
time and that point you have to 
assume the threat is going to be

1649
01:18:05,100 --> 01:18:08,900
alive and responsive. 
But there's a so he was staying 

1650
01:18:08,900 --> 01:18:12,900
get your hand away from the 
weapon and at that point you 

1651
01:18:12,900 --> 01:18:16,000
have to you have to take that 
shot because it's still threats 

1652
01:18:16,100 --> 01:18:18,200
until you Confirm that, that's 
no longer a threat. 

1653
01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:21,000
I think that's absolutely. 
So there's there's two ways to 

1654
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,200
look at this thing. 
Unlike what, Joe Biden has said 

1655
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,000
about the way that the 556 of 
the two to three round hits the 

1656
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:28,700
body, it doesn't immediately 
enter and blow up into a 

1657
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:31,800
demolition derby. 
It doesn't take long out of the 

1658
01:18:31,808 --> 01:18:32,700
body. 
When you hit somebody with a 

1659
01:18:32,708 --> 01:18:34,700
9-millimeter, this is not the 
way Firearms work. 

1660
01:18:34,700 --> 01:18:38,400
It's a kinetic, you know action.
It is a projectile that enters 

1661
01:18:38,400 --> 01:18:41,600
the body, it creates a permanent
and then also a temporary wound 

1662
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,400
cavity. 
The permanent cavity is usually 

1663
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,700
the size of the round and 
whatever the whatever it opens 

1664
01:18:45,700 --> 01:18:48,900
up to the The the temporary 
cavity is where like when things

1665
01:18:48,900 --> 01:18:50,900
hit they actually cause an 
expansion. 

1666
01:18:50,900 --> 01:18:53,000
This can cause you know, blood 
vessels to burst and things like

1667
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,100
that. 
But but absent, what we would 

1668
01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:57,000
call wounds incompatible with 
life. 

1669
01:18:57,100 --> 01:18:59,800
That means like an open head. 
That means you know, chest 

1670
01:18:59,800 --> 01:19:01,000
cavity, that's completely 
exposed. 

1671
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,000
And like there's, you know, the 
hearts ripped out there are 

1672
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,600
things that you can see. 
And and sometimes do happen in 

1673
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,300
big shootings, where you will 
know that the wound is now 

1674
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:13,400
incompatible with life. 
There's ways that Medics and 

1675
01:19:13,400 --> 01:19:15,400
I've done this as a paramedic to
so I can speak this. 

1676
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,000
There are, there are Categories 
of wounds that you can walk up 

1677
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:22,300
and if there is like brain 
material on the ground, you can 

1678
01:19:22,300 --> 01:19:26,600
usually diagnose that as being 
dead as deceased, that is not 

1679
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:28,300
the case. 
Every state has its own rules on

1680
01:19:28,300 --> 01:19:30,100
it and Texas. 
I actually had to take people 

1681
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:35,300
unless I saw that, you know, 
decapitation at an angular an 

1682
01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:37,800
accident scene, you could go, 
okay, I can declare this person 

1683
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:39,600
dead, otherwise you gotta wait 
for the corner show up. 

1684
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:41,300
You got to wait for a medical 
examiner or you've got to wait 

1685
01:19:41,300 --> 01:19:44,000
for a physician in an ER, to 
declare them dead. 

1686
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,100
So the officers are approaching 
somebody 556 Grounds make very, 

1687
01:19:47,100 --> 01:19:50,100
very small holes. 
Have you ever had to treat a 556

1688
01:19:50,100 --> 01:19:53,000
wound by the way? 
See, no, no. 

1689
01:19:53,000 --> 01:19:55,900
I have a very, very small can 
disappear in the body. 

1690
01:19:55,900 --> 01:19:57,700
Literally, you can go looking 
for them, and there's not always

1691
01:19:57,700 --> 01:19:59,600
an exit wound. 
So you can literally see, like, 

1692
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:03,200
it's like a pinhole. 
It's a 22 caliber hole that will

1693
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,200
enter the scale. 
Say it looks like a 22, right? 

1694
01:20:05,300 --> 01:20:07,100
Okay. 
Well, that's how it enters, it, 

1695
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:09,300
it looks like nothing. 
I've had to, like, pull them 

1696
01:20:09,300 --> 01:20:11,700
apart to find them. 
If people have like, fat on 

1697
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:13,700
their skin, or they have like 
body hair, it easily can 

1698
01:20:13,700 --> 01:20:15,400
disappear, and it doesn't always
bleed. 

1699
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:18,900
So you can have 22 wound that 
like, you know, five or six of 

1700
01:20:18,900 --> 01:20:21,500
them and in like, they won't 
appear unless they actually blow

1701
01:20:21,500 --> 01:20:24,300
something out. 
So, unless there's a significant

1702
01:20:24,300 --> 01:20:25,500
exit wound in blood in the back 
end. 

1703
01:20:25,500 --> 01:20:28,100
So people were speculating, oh, 
this is a fake video. 

1704
01:20:28,100 --> 01:20:30,400
This is a training scenario that
it is. 

1705
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:32,800
Nope, blood will have no blood 
everywhere. 

1706
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,000
You watch too much Hollywood 
movies, that's not the way 

1707
01:20:35,500 --> 01:20:38,400
people shot. 
People can be, you know, can be 

1708
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:41,700
fatally wounded at a guy that 
was law. 

1709
01:20:41,700 --> 01:20:45,500
Enforcement confrontation shot 
right in the chest and fatally 

1710
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:47,900
wounded one shot. 
Couldn't even find The Bullet 

1711
01:20:47,900 --> 01:20:49,100
Hole. 
It was very very difficult to 

1712
01:20:49,100 --> 01:20:50,000
find. 
It was hidden underneath the 

1713
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,800
left nipple and he had his heart
completely destroyed with the 

1714
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,200
shots. 
It was a One-Shot kill. 

1715
01:20:56,300 --> 01:20:58,900
We couldn't tell, we worked him.
Like he was alive for 35 minutes

1716
01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,800
and when we got there they 
actually opened up his chest and

1717
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:03,000
found that he had bled out into 
his own chest cavity, no exit 

1718
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:04,700
wound so no blood spilled at 
all. 

1719
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:06,900
But the guy probably lost a 
liter and a half of blood inside

1720
01:21:06,900 --> 01:21:10,400
of his lungs and, and, you know,
displaced as long as it with a, 

1721
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:13,800
you know, with that bleeding. 
So these things can happen in 

1722
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:16,500
ways that you wouldn't see. 
So the officer has to approach 

1723
01:21:16,700 --> 01:21:19,300
And assume that this person 
without wounding compatible with

1724
01:21:19,300 --> 01:21:22,000
life is still alive. 
And a lot of times, people still

1725
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,800
move. 
Like, it's not the movies, where

1726
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,200
somebody's pulling a ripcord 
behind you, and you fly 

1727
01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:28,500
backwards like an Arnold 
Schwarzenegger movie like, The 

1728
01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:31,100
Last Action Hero. 
Realistically speaking, the 

1729
01:21:31,108 --> 01:21:35,200
problem that most special 
operations troops had with the 

1730
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,900
556 round, which is why things 
like 300 Blackout and why 762 by

1731
01:21:38,900 --> 01:21:45,200
39 and you know 762 by 51 which 
is the 7/16 Nato round why those

1732
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,700
things were being used in. 
Foundation, as well as people 

1733
01:21:47,700 --> 01:21:48,700
would get hit with these 
rousing. 

1734
01:21:48,700 --> 01:21:51,800
You get back up all the time 
especially if they were hopped 

1735
01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,200
up on any kind of drugs. 
So officers know, they've been 

1736
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:57,000
trained. 
They've been told the threat. 

1737
01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,300
It's not to shoot to kill. 
It's to shoot to stop the 

1738
01:21:59,308 --> 01:22:01,100
threat, and that means they have
to be stopped moving. 

1739
01:22:01,100 --> 01:22:03,800
They don't have a hand on a 
weapon either obeying commands 

1740
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,400
at this point and being a docile
or they are not obeying 

1741
01:22:06,400 --> 01:22:08,300
commands, you have to treat them
as though they're still hostile 

1742
01:22:08,300 --> 01:22:11,300
until they prove otherwise. 
So I think these guys did a 

1743
01:22:11,300 --> 01:22:14,000
great job on every single part 
of it and the guys having the 

1744
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:17,600
wherewithal to to push forward 
which It's needed to happen. 

1745
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:21,100
There's a you know, they kept 
that momentum going, which 

1746
01:22:21,100 --> 01:22:23,800
started early and it never 
stopped, until they basically 

1747
01:22:23,800 --> 01:22:26,900
had this person incapacitated 
and in custody and or deceased 

1748
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:28,900
it's just, I mean, it's textbook
stuff. 

1749
01:22:28,900 --> 01:22:32,900
Every, every level of it is the 
way you do a, an active shooter,

1750
01:22:33,100 --> 01:22:35,700
you just push, they have to. 
And these guys did a great job. 

1751
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:41,300
Yeah, any other concerns about 
what we saw there? 

1752
01:22:41,300 --> 01:22:43,000
Phil. 
No, I was playing Devil's 

1753
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,700
Advocate just in case we get any
hate mail, but I think it my my 

1754
01:22:46,700 --> 01:22:49,500
devil's advocate, you know 
argument, they're really 

1755
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:53,000
elicited what we needed to hear.
So thanks for filling that in 

1756
01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:58,200
no, great job by all. 
So we're kind of were winging it

1757
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:00,300
in some ways as you probably can
tell from the technology because

1758
01:23:00,300 --> 01:23:02,200
we're not sitting in our normal 
space, I'm sitting in a hotel 

1759
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,900
room and I'm on the road, which 
is I'm very grateful for Steve 

1760
01:23:04,900 --> 01:23:06,500
joining me. 
I'm gonna this is the reason why

1761
01:23:06,500 --> 01:23:08,500
I actually had Steve join me. 
Here's something to kind of 

1762
01:23:08,500 --> 01:23:09,900
leave on a light note, for the 
weekend. 

1763
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:14,800
The FBI is now doing finger 
painting, right? 

1764
01:23:14,900 --> 01:23:18,900
And we have Miss Lippy, I've 
always said that the, the 

1765
01:23:18,900 --> 01:23:21,100
assistant was her name. 
She's the executive assistant 

1766
01:23:21,100 --> 01:23:24,700
director of Human Resources 
branch, which is Jennifer Moore.

1767
01:23:24,700 --> 01:23:29,500
This is the that suspended you 
and I is a lot like Miss Lippy 

1768
01:23:29,700 --> 01:23:33,700
from Billy Madison, who is 
famously, the kindergarten 

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01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:35,800
teacher in the Adam Sandler 
movie. 

1770
01:23:35,900 --> 01:23:38,600
That is teaching kindergarten 
when he has to go back as a 

1771
01:23:38,608 --> 01:23:41,500
grown-up and he steps into the, 
you know, he steps into the 

1772
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:43,400
preschool or the kindergarten 
class rather. 

1773
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,200
All the kids are at recess 
because he was want to play with

1774
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,000
them and she's like putting glue
on her face. 

1775
01:23:48,200 --> 01:23:50,700
She's putting and she's eating, 
it may be and she's got a 

1776
01:23:50,708 --> 01:23:53,000
macaroni necklace and she's 
dancing and doing this like 

1777
01:23:53,000 --> 01:23:56,700
Reiki thing and she's a weirdo. 
But she's, you know, kind of 

1778
01:23:56,700 --> 01:23:59,400
what I remember kindergarten 
teachers being kind of silly. 

1779
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:03,200
She actually is, you know, 
mildly pretty and she's sweet 

1780
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,400
and she has kind of a sick sweet
way of talking about things and 

1781
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,700
she talks about puppies and she 
does kindergarten stuff. 

1782
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:10,100
My kindergarten teachers name 
was mrs. 

1783
01:24:10,100 --> 01:24:13,800
Brazil and she actually looked 
like Miss Lippy, she wasn't 

1784
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:15,100
crazy. 
She was just a really, really 

1785
01:24:15,100 --> 01:24:18,200
nice lady. 
So unlike the, the really really

1786
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:19,900
nice lady. 
This is the kooky Dukes version 

1787
01:24:19,900 --> 01:24:22,800
of the nice lady and that's 
who's running the FBI security 

1788
01:24:22,800 --> 01:24:25,000
Division and the human resource 
department. 

1789
01:24:25,100 --> 01:24:29,200
Aunt, and the Training Division,
who recently canceled a town 

1790
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:31,600
hall meeting, right? 
That was scheduled for all 

1791
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:33,200
employees to be able to see 
what's going on a human 

1792
01:24:33,200 --> 01:24:37,000
resources. 
And instead had this thing sent 

1793
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:39,300
out that you're going to read to
us that I haven't read yet. 

1794
01:24:39,500 --> 01:24:41,500
You said you wanted the cold 
response to it. 

1795
01:24:41,500 --> 01:24:42,900
I'm ready for it whenever you're
ready. 

1796
01:24:43,300 --> 01:24:46,900
All right, so just so sexy. 
My favorite peeps over there. 

1797
01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:51,100
Who investigated my security 
clearance and your security 

1798
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:54,100
clearance to see if we were 
worthy of having it. 

1799
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:58,900
So I have a I have a mole there 
and I was I received this. 

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01:24:58,900 --> 01:25:01,800
So I'll read it to you to 
promote Health and Wellness in 

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01:25:01,808 --> 01:25:04,300
the workplace the security 
division employee assistance 

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01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:08,700
program, team invites all-sec, D
Personnel at Patriots, Plaza to 

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01:25:08,900 --> 01:25:11,700
to participate in the following 
events being hosted in the 

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01:25:11,700 --> 01:25:16,000
months of April and May and then
it lists seven events that are 

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01:25:16,008 --> 01:25:19,800
going to be happening 12:30 to 
1:00 p.m. on these states that 

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01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:24,300
are in april-may the the four 
types of events are as follows. 

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01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:29,000
One National walking day, meet 
at the entrance, the Patriots 

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01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,000
plus a 2, for a short walk that 
will help you to get to know 

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01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:35,400
your colleagues and return to 
your work with a renewed sense 

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01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:41,800
of productivity. 
Number two office, yoga meet at 

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01:25:41,900 --> 01:25:46,500
Patriots, Plaza, to room 405 A 
and B to be led in a series of 

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01:25:46,500 --> 01:25:49,800
simple movements to strengthen, 
and stretch the whole body while

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01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,000
seated in a chair. 
No, prior yoga experience, or a 

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01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:54,800
mat is required. 
So you don't even have to get 

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01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:59,900
out of your chair, it's chair, 
yoga, share, yoga number three, 

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01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:03,800
lunch and coloring meet at 
Patriots, Plaza, two rooms, four

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01:26:03,800 --> 01:26:05,800
or five. 
A and B for a fun series of 

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01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:09,800
coloring sessions during lunch. 
I'll let you see your colleagues

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01:26:09,800 --> 01:26:12,600
artistic sides. 
All supplies will be provided. 

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01:26:13,700 --> 01:26:17,100
Number four, National 
creativity, day, meet at 

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01:26:17,100 --> 01:26:20,900
Patriots, Plaza, two rooms for a
5A for a painting class. 

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01:26:20,900 --> 01:26:24,100
That will help you to get to 
know your colleagues and Unleash

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01:26:24,100 --> 01:26:27,000
Your creativity. 
All supplies will be provided 

1824
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:31,100
but space is limited. 
This is your thoughts on. 

1825
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:36,000
This is paid FBI employees on 
duty doing this correct. 

1826
01:26:36,100 --> 01:26:40,100
Yes. 12:30 to 1:00 p.m. 
Wednesday, a Thursday Wednesday,

1827
01:26:40,100 --> 01:26:42,100
a Thursday Wednesday, Thursday 
Wednesday. 

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01:26:42,500 --> 01:26:49,200
So you're all your FBI that we 
all pay for is going to do, 

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01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:53,500
painting and chair, yoga and 
holding hands, walking. 

1830
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:57,400
And, what's the last one 
coloring books? 

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01:26:58,500 --> 01:27:00,200
Coloring books. 
So I would say that. 

1832
01:27:00,200 --> 01:27:04,900
This is a fake except one. 
I know the FBI. 

1833
01:27:04,900 --> 01:27:08,800
So I know it's real but to fill 
shared something really awful 

1834
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:09,800
about it. 
The other day. 

1835
01:27:10,300 --> 01:27:12,100
This is not the only time this 
has ever happened. 

1836
01:27:12,100 --> 01:27:14,800
This isn't even a new idea in 
the bureau Phil when you were 

1837
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:15,600
working. 
What was the name of the 

1838
01:27:15,608 --> 01:27:19,800
headquarters unit you work for? 
I wasn't surg and maybe I don't 

1839
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,200
want to get too specific, but 
circumstance for I'll get real 

1840
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:25,600
specific on. 
They it was it was a unit that 

1841
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:28,200
did surveillance training and 
added resources. 

1842
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:32,200
Versus so yeah, there was a unit
Chief there who'd been the boss 

1843
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,900
for quite a while and she 
thought it was a great idea to 

1844
01:27:34,900 --> 01:27:39,700
put coloring books out to color 
away the stress and the three 

1845
01:27:39,700 --> 01:27:42,200
agents in the building. 
Got a great kick out of this, 

1846
01:27:42,200 --> 01:27:44,700
but they were the only ones who 
found it. 

1847
01:27:44,700 --> 01:27:47,400
Amusing, everyone else thought 
it was great and there was a box

1848
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:52,800
of crayons like the Crayola 64 
every color and there were, I 

1849
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,200
opened them to check. 
And there were actual people who

1850
01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:59,200
had colored in those things. 
Yeah, that was the next question

1851
01:27:59,200 --> 01:28:01,900
I had. 
So thanks, so you're FBI. 

1852
01:28:01,900 --> 01:28:04,900
Employees are spending their 
time on duty to just relieve the

1853
01:28:04,900 --> 01:28:09,400
stress of being a highly paid. 
Under worked government employee

1854
01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:14,200
by coloring or finger painting. 
Is there going to be any glue 

1855
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,000
eating? 
Do you think like real Miss 

1856
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:17,700
Lippy style? 
Or is that going to be next year

1857
01:28:17,700 --> 01:28:20,700
after the weaponization 
committee starts pulling people 

1858
01:28:20,700 --> 01:28:23,300
in for testimonies? 
Yeah, I think that the, the 

1859
01:28:23,300 --> 01:28:27,400
questions that that should be 
raised at that town hall should 

1860
01:28:27,700 --> 01:28:30,700
Should truncate any ever decide 
to follow through on it? 

1861
01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:32,900
That think that, you know, that 
needs to be there? 

1862
01:28:32,900 --> 01:28:34,800
What other activities can we 
have? 

1863
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:38,200
Can we can we have Jenga or 
maybe cornhole? 

1864
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:42,400
I mean I know you have to get 
out of your chair to do that but

1865
01:28:42,400 --> 01:28:47,400
one whole office corn hole in 
your chair Ask me these are not 

1866
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:52,200
serious people. 
They are charged with supposedly

1867
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:55,500
monitoring whether or not folks 
like you and I are worthy of 

1868
01:28:55,500 --> 01:28:59,700
having top security clearances 
to do the work of the American 

1869
01:28:59,700 --> 01:29:03,200
people and apparently that's too
stressful for them. 

1870
01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:09,200
They need to veg out and see if 
that, you know, that color is 

1871
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:13,200
orange red or red orange. 
What would be the better shade? 

1872
01:29:15,100 --> 01:29:16,800
Hey, Steve. 
You always have a very precise 

1873
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,800
way of making me discuss it with
stuff. 

1874
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,300
Where can people find this this 
letter? 

1875
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:22,700
Which I assume you're going to 
make public. 

1876
01:29:22,700 --> 01:29:27,300
And where can they follow you? 
You can find both on Twitter at 

1877
01:29:27,300 --> 01:29:30,000
real Steve friend. 
I will post on troops as well, 

1878
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:33,800
and real underscore Steve front.
Making it complicated our human 

1879
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,700
Rob, are you still Shadow band? 
It says no. 

1880
01:29:37,700 --> 01:29:41,600
But you know I had a good day. 
I pick up one or two followers 

1881
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:44,500
so I don't know if that the my 
resources is accurate. 

1882
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:49,900
What are you search band? 
I don't think so. 

1883
01:29:49,900 --> 01:29:52,700
I mean I always go to the same 
resource that it says I'm not 

1884
01:29:52,700 --> 01:29:56,600
but the same time like I look at
the analytics and I'm pretty 

1885
01:29:56,600 --> 01:30:00,600
sure that the only time I get 
into four digits of a views is 

1886
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,900
when you share my stuff, I'll 
keep doing it. 

1887
01:30:02,900 --> 01:30:04,900
That's what we're gonna do. 
I never see your stuff. 

1888
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:06,500
I'll cross my feet. 
So you got to keep telling me. 

1889
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:09,200
That's why you come on here. 
Thanks for doing what you're 

1890
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,700
doing. 
Thanks for thanks for sharing 

1891
01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:13,200
this information. 
You can hack your book if you 

1892
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:16,100
want to, because I know that's 
And growing on the Amazon lists.

1893
01:30:16,600 --> 01:30:19,300
Yeah, hoping to do, we're going 
to start the pr campaign 

1894
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:21,600
true-blue, my journey from Beat 
cop to FBI. 

1895
01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:25,800
Whistleblower, it is available 
at Amazon Barnes & Noble and 

1896
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,800
hopefully going to be doing the 
media circuit a little bit more 

1897
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,000
to advertise it. 
Alright, we will put the links 

1898
01:30:32,000 --> 01:30:33,900
in the description, folks, you 
want to buy Steve's book. 

1899
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:37,000
If you want to follow him, you 
should you can follow me on all 

1900
01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:39,600
social platforms at Kyle 
seraphin, you've been listening 

1901
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:44,700
to the Kyle Surf and show for 
this Friday the 31st of March As

1902
01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:47,200
I said, family in flux right 
now, we are moving. 

1903
01:30:47,200 --> 01:30:51,400
We will be in a totally new 
location shortly in the great 

1904
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,000
state of Texas, which has been a
place. 

1905
01:30:53,000 --> 01:30:56,100
I have literally moved seven 
times I counted them last night.

1906
01:30:56,100 --> 01:30:59,400
Seven times, it's my seventh 
move back to the state of Texas.

1907
01:30:59,900 --> 01:31:02,600
Very very strange. 
Maybe I should just get the 

1908
01:31:02,600 --> 01:31:04,500
message that I'm supposed to 
stick around and hang out of 

1909
01:31:04,500 --> 01:31:07,600
Texas. 
So if you like what you heard, 

1910
01:31:07,600 --> 01:31:11,200
please share and subscribe. 
You can share it to any of your 

1911
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,900
friends. 
We are on Apple, we are on 

1912
01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:16,200
Spotify, we are on iHeartRadio. 
We were on about a dozen other 

1913
01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:19,900
audio platforms and we are video
on Rumble you'll always find 

1914
01:31:19,900 --> 01:31:22,700
them on Mondays. 
Wednesdays Fridays. 

1915
01:31:22,700 --> 01:31:25,800
In speaking of Monday's we're 
going to have probably a 

1916
01:31:25,808 --> 01:31:30,500
two-part interview again with 
our friend, Kurt Sue's back, 

1917
01:31:30,500 --> 01:31:34,600
he's an FBI whistleblower, he is
a retired FBI supervisory, 

1918
01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:38,900
special agent and he is an 
attorney that works in the Cyber

1919
01:31:38,900 --> 01:31:42,000
sphere and he wrote the FBI 
whistleblower handbook. 

1920
01:31:42,100 --> 01:31:44,100
He gives me. 
First of all, he makes me laugh 

1921
01:31:44,100 --> 01:31:47,300
and so We had a pretty good fun 
conversation laughing but also 

1922
01:31:47,300 --> 01:31:49,800
probably like the least hopeful 
interview that I've done about 

1923
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,700
the FBI. 
I think you'll understand why if

1924
01:31:51,700 --> 01:31:54,000
you watch it. 
So tune in on Monday it'll be 

1925
01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:56,700
available very early. 
If you are an early riser on the

1926
01:31:56,700 --> 01:31:59,000
east coast and you can download 
it and listen to it throughout 

1927
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:00,600
the week. 
We might be breaking it up into 

1928
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:02,800
two days only because I think 
I'm going to be moving on 

1929
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:04,800
Wednesday, as well. 
So we'll give you its pretty 

1930
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:06,500
long to it's almost 3 hours 
again. 

1931
01:32:06,700 --> 01:32:09,800
So, once again, thanks so much 
for joining us today, and we 

1932
01:32:09,800 --> 01:32:12,900
will see you again after the 
weekend for our interview, with 

1933
01:32:12,900 --> 01:32:14,400
Kurtz use DAC. 
Thanks so much. 

1934
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,600
Y'all. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

1935
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,000
Serafin. 
Show be sure to follow him on 

1936
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,800
Twitter and Truth at Kyle 
seraphin. 

1937
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:16,600
Y'all. 
Thanks for listening to the Kyle

1938
01:32:16,600 --> 01:32:19,000
Serafin. 
Show be sure to follow him on 

1939
01:32:19,000 --> 01:32:21,800
Twitter and Truth at Kyle 
seraphin.