Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistle blower, an
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth because this program has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin. Here I am.
Hello, my friends, Welcome to the Kyle Serafin show.
Today is Wednesday. It is July the 16th, and I
appreciate you being along for the ride today.
Welcome to the program. We're going to talk about a
couple things. But the most important thing
that is happening, at least that I keep seeing, is APR nightmare.
And the Trump administration is in it.
And I guess they've forgotten the first rule of holes.
Maybe the entire GOP has forgotten.
The first rule of holes is when you're in a hole, you stop
digging. If you don't want to be any
deeper than you are, you got to stop at some point in time.
You can't keep digging the hole. If you guys saw the thumbnail,
if you're just listening, maybe you didn't see it.
But if you saw the thumbnail. There is a great example of APR
nightmare when you have a chicken company and your job is
to sell chicken and your suppliers don't come up with
chicken and though for therefore you no longer have the ability
to sell chicken, you have to do something about that.
You have to. You can't just act like nothing
happened. You got to admit that something
happened wrong messaging or otherwise.
You got to own the blame. You got to suck it up and take
it, and you got to tell people some version of the truth.
Usually people are very forgiving when it comes to
accepting culpability. What people do not like to do is
have you say it's your fault because your expectations of our
chicken company was that we would have chicken.
And that's a mistake. This is something that happened
in the UK for Kentucky Fried Chicken, KFC.
And so they did an entire marketing campaign all about
transparency, honesty, accepting the blame.
You know, they're chicken company.
They're not the federal government of the United States,
but they knew the rule of holes said stop digging, start filling
it in, give people what they want, which is they want to
blame you for the thing that happened.
And this is talking about a chicken company where you could
actually walk down the road and get something else.
What we're talking about is our federal government set something
up on the worst end of it. They're covering for pedophiles
who hurt children. That's unbearable on the best
possibility of it. They lied about something for
clout, for podcasts, for Fox News hits, and now they got to
come clean. Either way, it's time to take
your medicine. The American people are saying
it. And now, of course, you've got
the people on the political left that smell blood in the water
and they are diving on top of it.
So two things can be true at once.
People on the right who want to hear about transparency and they
expect the people that are quote, UN quote, representing us
to do the right thing. Those people can want something.
And people on the left can want to just dunk on Donald Trump and
his administration, including Pam Bondi and the FBI.
And that can also have two people with very different
motivations, have Co aligned interest and all of that can be
used for good. And the good thing is
transparency in government, not just things we like it should be
done. You should step forward and
actually accept that when you're in the wrong, you just pick up
that turd sandwich and you start eating it.
In the military, they always tell you how to eat an elephant.
You eat an elephant one bite at a time.
That's what you're supposed to do.
If you're being honest about it, this is a pretty serious
elephant. It's been out there for years.
Trump kind of knows that, and yet he still will not put down
the shovel. So that's what we're going to
talk about today. I've also got stories about
stuff going on in the Justice Department.
We're going to be talking about the defunding of various
different federal entities. People can be upset about the
big beautiful bill to people for different reasons.
Some people are really mad because it funds too many
things. It's a massive omnibus bill and
it's now going to be carried out and how does it work?
There's also people on the left that are mad about it because it
doesn't have enough government and it's cutting too much from
the government. You can be mad because there's
too much government. You can be mad because there's
not enough government. You're both mad at the
government. All right.
So just because you align in on the on the headline with someone
doesn't mean that you align with the motivation.
And that's why this sort of like, I don't know what it's
called, like they keep calling it panicans.
I don't know who came up with the idea of panicans, but
whoever that person is, I hope they're taken outside and shot
in the kneecap with something low caliber so they feel that
for a really long time. I despise it, absolutely hate
it. I think it's a really dumb thing
to say because it is so simplistic and what it assumes
is Americans are too dumb to realize that people can have the
same overlying result, demand for different motivations.
I think Americans are more sophisticated than that.
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All right, let's get into today's program and talk about
the rules of holes. Apparently the chat really likes
that. The rule of holes.
It's a thing. All right, all right, all right.
So number one, we're going to talk about Pam Bondi and a
booster. She's got some additional
things. This actually doesn't seem like
the wrong attitude. You know, you should be getting
rid of people that have been hanging out in your department
for too long. Again, I read you something that
Aaron Stevenson shared with me. This is a Machiavellian
principle, but this goes back to, you know, the origins of
Western city States and and the way that you handle governments,
particularly toppling governments or the switch of
either you execute them or you exile them.
You can't keep around people that are part of the old program
in the new program if you want the new program to survive,
especially during a leadership change.
If you're going to have an executive change, if you're
going to have a Prince change, if you're going to have a
president change, you have to make sure that the people that
are sitting in their positions that are mold in embedded and
trying to subvert what you're trying to accomplish.
If you were trying to do real change, that has to stop.
Pam Bondi ousted, a top ethics official, will read about that.
That's, of course the CBS headline.
CBS that says Ousted the senior ethics attorney at the Justice
Department who advised her and other officials on employee
ethics. The latest firing amid a purge
of department employees. I assure you, whatever purge
they have, it is not enough. There's not enough of them.
Joseph Tyrrell, who was the director of departmental ethics
office, the departmental ethics office.
The fact that we have to have a departmental ethics office that
advises you what's OK and what's not OK and how to do it, all of
that is gross. I don't think I ever needed to
refer to anybody. I just knew what was right and
wrong. If you actually hire people with
ethics, you don't need to have ethics attorneys out there
trying to tell you what it is. And by the way, they get so deep
in the weeds about stupidity, like, well, you can't take a
$20.00 gift from this person because meanwhile, all kinds of
scandalous stuff happens to the senior executives and they never
get actually looked at it. We'll talk about one of them,
maybe Cash Patel accepting significant gifts during his
time while he was at the National Security Council.
It's the worst finding out about people that you, you, you Co
signed on and find out later on that they actually had been
acting corruptly for a long time.
Anyway, this guy was removed. The letter stated that his
employment with the Justice Department is, quote, hereby
terminated. You are removed from federal
service effective immediately. More of this, please.
All of it. I mean, honestly, I had a buddy
that was that's in the Bureau talking to me this morning.
And he was like, yeah, one of my friends, like, you know, he he's
out of the the FBI now and he left for his own reasons.
But he wants to come back in and they won't hire him.
And he's a good guy. And and I went, hey, man, wrong
dude you're talking to on this. I want all of these agencies to
be just shredded. I want so much less government.
You would have your head spin. I can oppose the say, I can
oppose Trump's slow removal of federal service in the same way
that CBS is crying that that they have fired anyone.
They want it bigger. I want it smaller.
We're both unhappy with the result at the moment.
This guy Terrell said that my public service is not over and
my career as a federal civil servant is not finished.
None of these people think of themselves as federal civil
servants. I I really hate these this
verbiage, like somehow working for the government is a burden
on you. It's a choice in America.
It's kind of like saying it was a burden on you to go and serve
in the military. Even the word serve kind of
bothers me. You signed up voluntarily.
Very few of you had the judge point at you and say it's jail
or the Marine Corps. And if they did, even then you
still had a choice. So it was voluntary.
That's kind of how our military works right now, to act like
it's not your choice, to act like you're somehow serving or
bearing a burden, that you are doing something that is for the
good, it's for the good of you. The benefits are good.
The job is very like low requirements, generally
speaking, it's really hard to remove you.
It's way more, it's way more safe in an employment realm than
it is to go into the private sector where you're actually
going to be held accountable for a lot of results.
The retirement and the pension are guaranteed by the, the faith
and trust, the United States government, which actually
prints the real money that goes out there.
I mean, all of this stuff, it's a, it's a trade off.
It's a safety trade off. I could have gone into private.
I did work in the private service for most of my life.
I worked in the public service when it seemed like it was
serving the public. Yeah, but also serving myself.
It was a means to an end. I just, all of this stuff is
this crafting of like, we're the good people.
It's this moral argument the left makes.
And it comes from their religious position that
government actually grants good things and therefore you must
have servants. Think about the the language of
religion and Christianity. I mean, just for a second, what
does Jesus say to people when they've done the right thing?
You know, Well done, my good and faithful servant servant
language is, is is Christian in nature.
And of course, you see that done with these people who often
times don't believe anything about it.
Anyway, this guy says that he served his oath at the age of 18
as a midshipman. So he's a veteran.
He supported and defended the Constitution and have taken the
oath at least five more times. And the oath didn't come with a
caveat that I need to only support the Constitution when
it's easy. I mean, those are all the right
words for sure. He began working at the Justice
Ethics Department in 2018, became the director in 2023.
He worked at the FBI for more than 10 years.
He spent two decades in federal service, according to the to the
Justice Department, You know, OK, So what?
So you've had a job for a long time.
That's what it really comes down to.
They're they're crying in this article about people who are
being pushed out and they name them by name.
And I'm not going to name them because they're not names that
you're familiar with. But acting like it's a problem
for you no longer to have a job in a place where it was.
There's a there's more to this story.
He gave some advice that they found very troubling to Jack
Smith and the Jack Smith investigation into Donald Trump
and authorized certain things that didn't make sense.
And so after review, they were like, well, we can see where
your loyalties lie and you decided to go against what we
think are ethical determinations.
And so you're no longer required.
Thanks for coming, really appreciate that.
I'm for it. That's a win.
We can mark some wins. We don't have to only say you
didn't do the right thing and suggesting that any one person
is simply a single action. And that can be extrapolated.
And you can say because person did this thing, I hate them
forever. They're the worst.
It's like, no, there's no people that you know like that.
Your neighbor can do something nice and you like it, and your
neighbor can like leave their sprinklers on and flood your
lawn and then leave you with a muddy mess and you're like, damn
it, guy's terrible at turning off the sprinklers that one
time. That was really frustrating.
I remember that for a long time. Bondy, getting rid of people.
The DOJ is a good move. There are some good hires over
there. Harmeet Dillon's a good hire.
She made people run out. They've gotten rid of some of
these folks. Good.
All right, So try to cut fairly on these things as they come in.
This is another one. This is kind of interesting.
Yesterday we covered that Ro Khanna tried to attach an
amendment to this bill. This is being covered by ABC
News right now. Just letting you know where the
where the news is coming from. Only because I check out
ABCNBCMSNBC. What else?
CBS, CNNNPR, those are my my normal ones, and they all lean
left. And the reason I want to lean
left on all the news that I cover, just mostly because I
want to know what the left is saying because I know that they
have this narrative that they're pushing out there.
Doesn't mean that the political right is not exempt from the
narrative trap. I'm going to play some of that
in a minute too. They're all just mouthpieces, it
turns out. And the new media is the same as
the old media, with small exceptions.
There's a small number of voices you'll find.
I'd like to continue myself in one of them because I don't take
money from anybody else. And I actually don't care about
making friends with these people.
I kind of enjoy when they hate me.
Is that weird? Like, I kind of love it because
I want to actually say things that are honest.
And if that means that it pisses people off, good.
Jocko will exile. Good.
Let him be mad. This is an interesting situation
here with the crypto legislation that's running through.
That's called the Genius Act. I already I, I hate the names of
these bills. I almost always do.
I might be in a mood today, but essentially yesterday we played
you some some audio at least an interview after the fact.
Ro Khanna, California congressman, was trying to
attach an Epstein transparency situation to a bill that had
nothing to do with what it was about the bills about crypto.
And he wanted to tally on the Epstein thing because he wanted
to dunk on it. Now you can make the argument
that that was the only way he was going to get it on anything
in a committee. And so he proposed an amendment.
OK, fine, there we go. The fact of the matter, it was
also very performative. And then they put it out to the
to the wider floor and Mike Johnson did what needs to be
done. And so that was actually killed
as well. This bill did not make it
through and people voted against it.
And the issue apparently it says this is what the speaker Johnson
says. By the way, I just realized
something about Speaker Johnson. I think I have a picture of him.
Hold on. We've got a picture of him on
the screen. Here we go.
We're going to cover him in just a little bit because he's
flip-flopped on the Epstein thing.
But Mike Johnson, I want you to picture Mike Johnson's voice.
I don't have a clip for you, but picture it.
Mike Johnson is Smithers from The Simpsons.
It just it I, I got hit with that overwhelmingly this morning
as I was preparing. He's Smithers.
Smithers is the like the sniveling little guy that walks
behind Mr. Burns. And and Donald Trump is kind of
the Mr. Burns. I don't think their voices are
analogous there. But Smithers is like, whatever
you say, Sir. Like, that sounds amazing.
Like everything you do is the best thing I've ever seen.
Like, I can't believe that you have this brilliant plan.
Like it's so good Mike Johnson was supposed to be going in
there specifically to unseat Kevin McCarthy.
His his job was to replace Kevin McCarthy and give us single
issue bills that were one thing and it was a single issue
appropriation. And since then he's gone right
back to what exactly what you'd expect.
They do 100% uniparty, you know, omnibus bills where you cram all
your crap in there and you got to vote for it because some of
your crap's in there, but somebody else's crap is as well.
And what are you going to get? We can't do any better.
I really, I really dislike the the sniveling nature of what you
see from Mike Johnson and the fact that he's like, so flip
floppy. And that's exactly what that's
what Smithers does in The Simpsons.
He just is a yes man that that he's there because that's where
the power is, but he doesn't actually have the ability to
possess or wield the power himself, and he's only there in
so much as this goes on. All right, the speaker say
explained that conservative who voted against the rule want a
crypto bill. The clarity, the genius in the
anti CBD surveillance act combined into one package rather
than take each one as a standalone measure.
The issue is is passing the genius bill does not have a
prohibition against the central banking digital currency.
And by authorizing 1 without a guarantee of getting the others,
you have a problem. MTG came out and said it just as
much. So just so you guys understand,
I'll read the article just a little bit, but this was the and
this is kind of a not favorable, this is ABC.
But this was the issue that they said is that by putting one bill
in and not the other, you lose the protections that they wanted
to make sure that we're married together.
I sort of get that. I also sort of don't really get
excited about crypto either way. I think people who put money
into crypto or you're gambling at A at a casino table where you
don't know how all the players are aligned.
And I was explaining this to my to my buddy Ryan Mata, who is
constantly telling me that crypto is the way.
And yeah, maybe you can make small gains there, but you're
you're basically playing at a casino table where you don't
know how all the actors are operating in the background and
how many of them are are hyping something that they're on the
other end, they're selling. You might be able to expose them
at some point in time, but it's not before you lose everything
you have. So if you guys want to play
crypto games, if you guys want to play with your money, if you
want to sit on a casino table where like maybe 1/3 of the
table is also playing on behalf of the house and the house
already has a benefit, Yikes. I don't want that at all.
And I know some of you guys will vehemently disagree with me, but
unless you have enough crypto money that you don't ever have
to work again and you're not going to convert it into dollars
and you can spend crypto, I don't think it makes any sense,
at least not right now, what you do.
All right. After an earlier set back in the
Trump administration, House Republicans failed to advance a
key procedural vote on a package of legislation, including three
crypto measures that we just named earlier.
President Trump said Tuesday that he made a deal with the
Republicans in Congress to advance the legislation on
Wednesday. That's today.
So we'll see what that does. In his post on True Social, he
met in the Oval Office with 11 of the 12 GOP members needed to
pass the the package. After a short discussion, we all
agreed to vote tomorrow morning in favor of the rule.
Speaker Mike Johnson was at the meeting and he was doing this.
That's brilliant, Sarah. That's brilliant.
Yeah. It's a great job, Sir.
Everything you do is great. I'm going to have to get my
Smithers voice down. He didn't provide specific
details about the deal. In a lengthy statement, Johnson
thanked Donald Trump for helping lock down the necessary votes to
advance the crypto legislation. Because that's what Mike Johnson
does. I'm thankful for the president.
I'm thankful for the president getting involved tonight to
ensure that we can pass the Genius Act tomorrow and agreeing
to help us in advancing additional crypto legislation in
the coming days. I find it boring, but it but
necessary to talk about when when the media is covering one
thing like a loss and in fact, like there may be some
principled stands on it. Just be aware it's out there.
There's a spin. We'll see what happens today.
We can talk about it tomorrow as well.
It, it goes along with some of the other stuff that they're
trying to cover down on, like this one.
This is my favorite. Whenever I see the media crying
about something, it makes me think there's probably something
else going on. This is another CBS story.
This is about spending. This is coming out of the big
beautiful bill. And there's an also an NPR
story, which I said to one of my buddies who works on an Indian
Reservation. We had a kind of a chuckle about
it. The the Senate has advanced
Donald Trump's request to cancel billions of dollars, which we
all thought we were going to get.
I thought this was the doge sort of thing.
They're canceling foreign aid. NPR and PBS, now you think, why
are those related? For me, those are immediately
related because foreign aid seems to either aid in
propaganda or like run programs that are counter to American
interest. NPR is also a propaganda program
that is counter to American interest and the same thing with
PBS. So that makes perfect sense to
me. It's always interesting that
when you see the, the mainstream media crying about the
government not subsidizing what would be their competition.
What was the, I'm trying to remember what the, there was an
analogy. It's like these people, like
they're not exactly competing against each other, are they?
Because they're actually trying to activate, activate it and
push a single narrative together.
Man, there's a movie that quotes somewhere in my head right now
that's that's kind of like rumbling around.
It's like you don't see these people attacking each other in
the same way. They don't, they kind of work in
this like semi cooperative thing.
Like you don't see the piranhas generally like swarming and
knocking out other piranhas. If one of them gets injured,
maybe they'll go after it, but they all kind of go after the
prey animal. The prey in this case is our
attention span and our sympathies and maybe the way
that we think. The Senate narrowly advanced a
request from the White House to claw back billions in funding
from international aid and public broadcasting facing a
congressional Friday deadline. No particular reason why they
make these deadlines out of thin air.
They could work longer, but they don't.
The request, known as a rescissions package, has cleared
the first procedural hurdle on Tuesday, with the help of JD
Vance's vote. He cast the tie breaking vote
after three Republicans joined the all Democrat thing in
opposing it. Again, you can oppose things for
different reasons, but they'll always smear you as being part
of the same thing. This is just kind of a little
interesting piece. The White House requested that
Congress cancel $9.4 billion in funding that was previously
approved to spend starting a clock, starting the clock on a
process that gives lawmakers 45 days to act.
So here you go. And then this is the story NPR
had to cover on exactly the same thing.
And this is my absolute favorite.
If you listen to NPR, which I spent numerous times doing, and
I have friends that actually still listen to it specifically
for the humor aspect. If you believed in NPR's view of
the world, just based on the percentage of news coverage, at
least 60% of the of the world, from Kenya to Tanzania to
Madagascar, to to parts of China, all the way to the United
States and everywhere in between.
NPR would have you believe that 60% of the world are on the
LGBTQ protected spectrum. And also that there are 10s of
millions of American Indians, which they call Native
Americans, that are constantly dealing with problems that are
our fault and we owe them. This story is one of those great
stories. This actually comes from NBC,
but it's talking about NPR. Native American radio stations
are at risk as Congress looks to pull back $1 billion in public
broadcasting funding. Now, why would NBC, why would
any news organization particularly care about this?
It's because they want more government at all times and they
advocate as such. The person that you see on the
screen there, sort of heavyset, maybe Indian, but possibly
Hispanic looking woman sitting at a control stream with a
microphone. Hey, I've got that microphone.
I've got that same shock mount, too.
How about that? If Kyle Seraphin can sit in this
little house in Texas, America, and afford to buy my own
microphone, and I've got a similarly capable sound board
and I've probably got more capable computers if I can fund
it out of my pocket, I bet you they can, too.
In any case, that is Jacqueline Salie.
She is the president for the Kahonik Broadcast Corporation at
the KNBA radio stations in Anchorage, AK.
Dozens of Native American radio stations, also known as American
Indian radio stations because we're all a Native American,
aren't we? Across the country are vital to
tribal communities, and they'll be at risk of going off the air
if Congress cuts more than $1 billion from the Corporation for
Public Broadcasting, says the industry leaders. the United
States Senate is set to vote on whether or not to approve the
Department of Government Efficiencies plan to rescind
previously approved public broadcasting funding for 2026
and 2027. The radio stations will go dark.
Oh no. So they can't actually survive
on ad dollars. They can't actually survive on
the model that radio survives on in every market.
Look, I, I, I sat in a radio station but that my dad was
working at in Payson, AZ. It's a tiny little broadcasting
studio in a tiny little town with less than 20,000 people who
live in it, and they managed to stay open without governmental
money. How could that be that you can't
survive in Anchorage, AK, which is a thriving metropolis in
Alaska? Maybe it's because they are
trying to put out a very particular narrative that favors
certain things. It doesn't make sense.
And of course, the idea is, is that these poor Indians, the
American government has to coddle and take on forever.
I have a lot of strong feelings about Indian reservations folks
having worked on them. They're dysfunctional.
The people that live there are living a dysfunctional life.
And I'm not saying they're bad people because of that.
I'm saying that their outcomes are obviously bad because the
government is involved. It looks the same.
In fact, we talked about this with Tim Kennedy the other day.
It looks the same is what you see in inner city Baltimore.
In West Baltimore, it is a catastrophically bad scenario.
Places that look like Beirut in the 80s, you drive through it
and there's buildings that look like they've been bombed out.
There's no maintenance. There's nothing going on.
The street lights are all strobing at weird hour like
they, they strobe because the light bulbs are out.
You've got all these different police, you know, notifications.
There's these, these lights that strobe on letting you know that
the police are actually videoing and monitoring.
So people slink around in the darkness and the shadows.
It's scary as hell. It looks like a zombie
apocalypse ran through an American city and we lost to the
zombies. That's what Baltimore looks like
to me when I've gone through it. Indian reservations are like
that, but like with less urban stuff.
They're just houses with three walls and a piece of the roof
missing and people are still living in it.
It's a guy sitting in the side of a school bus with the front
of it torn off and he's got a fire going and he's burning
something to stay warm because it's 20° below 0.
And he lives in a school bus that doesn't even have a front.
Like that's not OK. That's not and, and, and that's
a directly related to they have enough to survive, but not
enough to thrive. And so you have the worst
scenario. You have people that are
basically living like, like cattle.
One of the great stories was that somebody built a brand new
series of houses on one of the Indian reservations we are
dealing with. And when, when, when an agent
went out to go question him, there was a huge hole in the
bathroom in the wall, like a brand new house.
It was like 2 years old and the guy had apparently taken a
chainsaw and cut a huge hole because there was no window in
the bathroom, cut a huge hole and was like, why did you do
that? And he was like, well, I didn't
have a, a warmer to keep my horse, my horse through thawed
during the winter. So the horse couldn't have
water. It just had ice.
So I just cut a hole in the in the house so that it could drink
out of the bathtub and froze the house.
It's not all there that comes from government money because
it's not a house that he bought. It was just given to him.
The tribe gave it to him. There's a lot of really, really
dumb usages. And if it means that we have to
claw back a billion dollars and we don't have Indian radio
stations anymore, like good, good.
Figure out a payment model or don't.
There's a there's a million podcasts out there and people
figure out how to get information and to act like this
is the the claim in this local radio stations play an outside
role in the lives of many in the indigenous communities.
Yeah, sure they do. Where cable television and
broadband Internet access are spotty at best and non existent
for many. And yet all of them still have
cell phones, They all have Wi-Fi, and they're all able to
be on Facebook Messenger even though they have no minutes for
their phones. How do you know that because
I've been on Indian reservations, because I've gone
and knocked on doors, that these people who wrote the story have
never done This is coming from The Associated Press.
I'm just telling you, my sympathy for these situations is
that it's probably like, I don't know, 25% government getting in
there and making these people dependent and 75% people who
don't want to rely on their own ability to survive.
The people that live good lives that are American Indians have
left the reservation. They left the the plantation of
government service. I feel really strongly about how
bad the plight of it is, but a lot of it is because people just
don't have any sensibilities to just get up and leave from the
place. It reminds me of that.
What was it? Sam Kinison, I think that's his
name. He's a comedian.
He's like, we've been bringing food to people who live in the
desert that are starving in Africa.
Like, why doesn't someone go in there and tell them just bring a
bunch of moving trucks. We're going to take you to where
the food is. There's no food here.
You live in the damn desert. It seems so sensible.
But I guess if you have no survival instincts, and there's
a lot of that in this country, in urban areas, in some of these
rural communities, so the government has to go and give
you a radio station where like 3 people work.
It's crazy. It's so crazy.
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Indian reservations. But seriously, it if you spend
any time on one, it's really, really hard.
It like, it's like my buddy would always send me this, this,
this, this meme. It's a picture of like some, you
know, idealized Indian brave and he's got a tear running down his
face. And it just says once a proud
people. Seriously, once a proud people.
But not today, not today anymore.
All right, we're getting into the sort of the minutiae and the
nitty gritty of this situation. Roughly 6 and 10 Americans
oppose Trump's mega bill. This is ACNN poll.
I want to play some other polling too, because the the
Epstein thing is another situation where people may
disagree for different reasons. We're going to get into media
narrative and why that is. As in the second-half here,
roughly 6 in 10 Americans say they oppose the GOP domestic
policy bill. I guarantee you they didn't read
it. I guarantee you they don't even
know what's in it because I don't know all the stuff that's
in there and neither do you. But anyway, they oppose it.
Sure, 60%. In the wake of the sweeping
legislation achievement, his biggest since returning into
office, Trump's rating for handling the budget has slumped
11 points since March, with a rising majority saying he's gone
too far in gutting government programs.
Really. And This is why we're screwed as
a country. This is why yesterday's show is,
what if we already lost the war? If 60% of Americans or a big
chunk of that 60% are upset with Trump's mega bill because it
doesn't fund enough government, we're aft as a people.
We're so screwed. I ran a survey, there's over
2000 respondents so far over on X.
And the question was really simple.
It's like, OK, have you considered your political elites
and do you think that they should fly in a Gulfstream 550?
Should they fly in a Gulfstream 700 Global class or a Bombardier
Global 7500? Should they fly in a $60 million
aircraft, an $85 million aircraft?
Should they fly first class commercial or should they fly
coach? And most of you said they should
ride on the top of the damn bus. They should even get a seat in
it. Most of you said that they
should ride coach. If you got a vote on there, it's
really straightforward. If you don't want your political
elites to act like they're political elites, let them fly
like you do. And if they want to pay for the
upgrade to 1st class, great. And if they can afford it out of
their pocket or someone wants to lend them a private jet,
fantastic. If they're that kind of wealthy,
awesome, do it, great. That's not what we have right
now. There's a current situation
brewing where I've had FBI agents and whistleblowers
reaching out to me in the last 48 hours telling me that Cash
Patel is about to buy an $80 million or more jet, may have
already actually secured the funding and bought it because he
wants to have the same kind of jet that his billionaire buddies
have. By the way, the current FBI jet
was actually something that a billionaire used to own.
Robert Kraft is the alleged previous owner of the current
FBI jet that Chris Wray was running around in.
It's problematic. We can all say that there's a
that people are like, have the same thoughts and not have the
same feelings about why those come down.
And you're starting to see a little bit of a break from the
political left. I'm going to give you I'm going
to give you a media narrative. Thanks.
Here's here's the reason why the Epstein case is still relevant
and why we're going to keep talking about it, why it's such
a failure. Enjoy this real quick.
This is CNN running to their polling, not just pulling on the
mega bill, but pulling on the on the pulling on the on the
Epstein situation. Again, we can agree with people
that something should be done for different reasons and
motivations. I'm sure that's why this number
you don't get American consensus unless people from different
points of views come together with different motivations for
the same result. That's what that looks like in
this poll. Let's go now to CNN chief data
analyst Harry Anton. And Harry Anton, there's a new
CNN poll that's just out. How's the controversy impacting
the president's support? Yeah, I would say that the word
is dissatisfied. That is how Americans feel in
terms of the releases so far. The Epstein case, take a look
here, Epstein case, amount of info release the winner here.
50% dissatisfied doesn't matter. 29% not heard enough, 17%.
But look at the bottom of your screen.
The percentage that are satisfied is just 3%.
That's one. That's two.
That is just 3%. I feel like the count on Sesame
Street, just 3% of Americans are satisfied so far with the the
amount of information released. The clear winner in this
particular case is 50%. Half of the public is
dissatisfied, at least so far. And are you seeing a big
difference between how Republicans and Democrats are
viewing this? No, and that I think is kind of
the interesting sort of nugget in what's going on here.
You see this 50% dissatisfied and let's break it down by
party, OK, Epstein case, amount of info released.
Look at this, you get 43% of lean GOP.
That's Republicans and independents who lean towards
the Republican Party who are dissatisfied.
Look at this, just 4% satisfied. My goodness gracious, when you
only have 4% that is with Donald Trump on a particular issue that
is ridiculously low. I've never seen anything quite
like it. How about lean Democrat?
60 percent dissatisfied. Compare that to 3% who are
satisfied. Again, 4 percent, 3% Republican
Democrat. You rarely ever see this type of
agreement. Now of course, there's another
divide in American politics, one that has increased over the past
few decades and that is whites with a college degree.
Whites without a college degree. But in this particular case, we
see agreement. What are we talking about?
This Epstein case amount of info release dissatisfied. 55% of
white college graduates and 53 of white non college graduates.
Donald Trump historic base, yet the majority are dissatisfied.
OK, straightforward, really simple.
You can agree with people on what you want the outcomes to be
with having different motivations.
Yes, I heard him say the word nugget.
I'm not going to just sit in there, but that is a big nugget.
That was a big nugget. Look, here's the story that NBC
has run, and I think it's fair. Trump, who once fueled
conspiracy theories about Jeffrey Epstein, now bears their
brunt. President Donald Trump's recent
statements in his administration handling of the records related
to Jeffrey Epstein seems to have escalated anger from parts of
his base. Of course it has, because
there's only two possibilities on the far ends of it.
Possibility one is they're covering for pedophiles.
Worst case scenario, nobody's OK with that.
Not people on the left, not people on the right.
Well, that's actually not true. They used to be OK with it, but
now they're upset about it because it because it goes after
Donald Trump. Possibility #2 maybe the most
possible one, maybe the most reasonable possibility is Pam
Bondi hyped it, said things and over promised and under
delivered. Kind of like having a chicken
restaurant. When you show up and there's no
chicken, it's like, well, we don't have any chicken.
And rather than say like I'm not going to talk about it, rather
than close the doors, turn off the lights and have the
employees hide behind the counter, which is what's
happening, 'cause I'm going to show you the, I'm going to show
you Bondi. She's going to refuse to talk
about it. You've created a problem.
You got to own it. Put down the shovel.
First rule of holes. Second option is you need to
start talking about it and explain it to the extent that
the base needs to hear. You guys, I saw you in the chat.
You asked me about Donald Trump's statement.
Let's just read it. Donald Trump released a
statement at 8:43 my time. That's 943 Eastern Time today.
He said the radical left Democrats have hit pay dirt
again. Just like the fake, a
discredited Steele dossier. It's not related to that.
The lying 51 intelligence agents, the laptop from hell.
The Democrats swore it that it came from Russia, blah, blah,
blah, blah. Russia, Russia, Russia.
I'm gonna actually play you. He said something like this
yesterday, so we'll play you a little audio of this.
They're no good at governing. They're no good at policy.
They're no good at pick and winning candidates.
And unlike Republicans, they stick together like glue.
This is their new scam that we will forever call the Jeffrey
Epstein Hoke. First rule of holes.
Put down the shovel. Come on.
They haven't learned their lesson and they probably never
will be. They'll be conned by the lunatic
left for eight years. I've had more success in the
last six months than any president in the country's
history. You are missing it, buddy.
You are missing it. Still prodding along with the
fake news and the success for Democrats and the Jeffrey
Epstein hoax. So he's going to try to brand it
the Jeffrey Epstein hoax, All right.
Well, that's what he's going to try to do.
Here he is. Look at Carolyn Leavitt's face.
The White House spokesperson is more savvy, more connected and
knows what's going on in the like the media world, the social
media world and what people at large are saying.
Carolyn Levitt does not want to take.
She just wants to deal with this and, and face it head on.
I can pretty much tell she looks very uncomfortable in this clip.
And here's Trump. He's this is the precursor to
the Jeffrey Epstein hoax tweet or twerk truth you just put out.
This is a terrible, terrible decision on his part.
I don't know who's advising him, but they do not have his best
interest. Here it is.
No, no, she's, she's given us just a very quick briefing.
And in terms of the credibility of the different things that
they've seen. And I would say that, you know,
these files were made-up by comedy.
They were made-up by Obama. They were made-up by, but the
Biden, you know, we and we went through years of that with the
Russia, Russia, Russia hoax, with all of the different things
that we had to go through. We've gone through years of it.
But she's handled it very well. And it's going to be up to her.
Whatever she thinks is credible, she should release.
Yeah. OK, What did she have to say
about that? This is Bondi.
She did a press conference yesterday and she came out and
was asked questions about Dan Bongino and is he still working
there and are they now in, like, a fight and some other stuff.
And so her answer was basically, I'm going to just try to hide
behind the counter and turn the lights off.
Is there disruption the leadership of DOJ and the.
FBI with your relationship with Dan Bongino.
That is affecting the operation. No, I'm not going to talk about
personnel matters. No, I was with Director Patel
all morning, and we are committed to keeping America
safe, making America safe, working with our incredible
partners that DEAFBIATFUS marshals to do everything we can
to make America safe. And that's what we're focused
on. And today we're focused on
protecting our kids. And I would ask all of you, when
you leave, go look at that wall outside, right outside this room
of all the fentanyl deaths, all the faces of fentanyl that you
guys you've done an amazing job putting up.
I'm going to distract and I'm going to try to motivate you to
look at something else. Will you please look at
fentanyl? Because that's something where
we think we can make a difference in the messaging is
better. What we're going to do is say
you were going to protect kids. In the meantime, there's this
belief because of things she said, hundreds of victims, her
words, 200, No, 250 victims are not going to be protected
because they they, they drum this up.
This is a problem of their own making.
This is either a conspiracy theory or this is the real deal.
But either way, the best case scenario is that your government
lied to you. Your government, the one that
you wanted, the one that we all thought was going to make a
difference. That is not an answer.
And I noticed when people want to run out the clock, they give
you a long list of things. They list things the ATF, the US
Marshals, the DEA, the FBI. Have we run out enough time
here? I need to make sure this lasts
about 30 to 45 seconds so that it does make for a good social
media little clip roll. And I've done it.
That's not to say people on the other side are honest or that
they're operating honestly. They're running narrative.
And I'm going to show you what narrative looks like really,
really quickly. You don't need the examples, but
you might as well have an example of this.
This is the view. This is the the leftist version
of the non thinking crowd that wants to be spoon fed
propaganda. And apparently they don't care
that the Internet exists. They don't care that people can
research what they said one year ago.
This is not ancient history. This is recent history. 2024
Sunny Hoskin versus 2025. I guess people listen to her
because she's the prettier one on this.
On the show, she says some really dumb stuff.
Here is her talking about first time.
The Epstein stuff is when they were worried about it, like
basically exposing Democrats. Now seeing that Donald Trump is
pivoting, anything to oppose Donald Trump is where they're
at. That's not the same as Kyle
Seraphin. That's not the same as many of
you. We want our government not to
lie to us. She has different interests, but
we now sound the same. Just beware of that.
People were dying for this information.
There was some sort of list that everybody thought was going to
come out and who's on the list. What's important for us to note
is we shouldn't be repeating names that are on the list
because just because your name has not on the list but in the
documents, Just because your name is on the documents doesn't
mean that you have done anything criminally irresponsible or
illegal or civilly irresponsible.
Or that you were a client. Or that you were a client.
The only really these documents, as I read them only reflect
Epstein sexual assaults of women and his sexual behavior.
So I I think that. And Elaine?
And Elaine, and so being named in this suit does not equate to
being accused of wrongdoing. And I think that is extremely
important because conspiracy theorists seem to not understand
or enjoy facts. Yes, these are the facts.
There is a list. Trump's name is on the logs, the
passenger logs of Epstein's aircraft at least seven times.
That's already been made public. I mean, of course Trump is
denying any, you know, all, any and all allegations, but all of
that information is out there. Why not just put it to rest and
say release the list? OK, now that it might hurt
Donald Trump, we want to talk about it.
When there's a Democrat in power and Democrats might be on the
list, we got to hide it. And those people that are on the
list didn't necessarily do anything wrong.
But if Donald Trump's name's on the list, he's definitely doing
something wrong. It's not just the left.
Everybody is retarded. This is Bill O'Reilly trying to
make like the weirdest possible arguments without facts.
Remember, facts are totally irrelevant if you're trying to
spin narrative. What you want people to do is
just hear things over and over again.
It was brought up the other day in a in an X space and I and I
smirked to myself. There was a discussion of the
illusory truth effect. Do you guys recall that we used
to do all these psychological tactics that are dropped on you?
The illusory truth effect means the more you hear something, the
more likely you are to establish that it's true in your head and
narrative response gets punched into your head over and over
again. Even though it's not actually
accurate. You believe it is because it's
been said by various different sources.
You've heard it audibly. Maybe you see it in writing.
The more you read it and you see it, you believe that this thing
that is not true is in fact true because it has been presented to
you by a source that you ingest. Simply knowing that it's a lie
and still reading it, you may remember it later as true.
The illusory truth effect. Here's Bill O'Reilly trying to
remember what the narrative is, is trying to run cover and he
can't get his timeline straight. Yet another reason that
sometimes when you're a senior citizen, it is a good time to
retire. How desperate for attention is
Bill O'Reilly that he's sitting here and he's going to get fact
checked live on air like a complete fool.
Listen to this. And and didn't he get kicked out
for like having sexually inappropriate everything?
Wasn't that sort of why he doesn't, right?
Epstein was convicted during the Biden administrations.
Not one time did Hakeem Jeffrey call for any exposition of what
the Biden Justice Department knew.
He doesn't care about the truth. He doesn't care.
About people bill, Bill, this is what hold on, hold on bill, hold
on. You said Epstein was convicted
during the Biden administration. Epstein committed during the
Trump administration. Yeah, so am I wrong on that?
He was arrested in 2019 and he committed in 2019.
He died August 10th of 2019. Right.
He was never convicted. So the Biden administration was
not involved in a conviction or a trial of him.
They were in the of his Madam of Elaine Maxwell.
But he was arrested and indicted under Merrick Garland.
No. Under Trump, who had under
Trump, under Epstein was arrested, indicted under Trump.
In 2019, Trump was president. Merrick Garland was not the
attorney general. Just sad Tuba, look at him.
He's just confused, but OK. OK.
I actually don't know what I'm talking about.
I'm spinning a narrative. Can the narrative go to any
side? Could anybody be doing narrative
cover? Yeah, one of my buddies was
making a a statement and we're not overtly anti or pro Jew or
Israel in our little group chats.
I just, I, I kind of just don't care.
Like I think it's so I think it's nauseating, but the number
of people who are trying to fight against the, the the
Epstein situation and wanted to be put away and are also die
hard Israel supporters. Like if you were to take those
two sort of graphs, they are 1 circle.
There's no, there's no seepage outside of it.
So you've got Ben Shapiro, who 100% thinks Israel above all
things is important. I get it.
Like he's got family there, right?
He's tied to it. Fine.
That's your interest. Don't try to act like it's my
interest. I don't care.
I don't care at all one way or another.
It's like, do whatever they want.
Not my business, it turns out. What was it?
What was the thing we said here on the show the other day?
People who don't eat bacon are not my people.
Sorry. If you don't eat bacon, you're
not my people. Here's Ben Shapiro talking about
things. He's also got government
sources. I tap government sources this
morning. I bet you my source is no more
than he does. He makes an argument and I want
you to listen for it. It sounds completely ridiculous.
This is the man who used to say facts don't care about your
feelings. Let me introduce to you a fact
child sexual material. Is he alleging that the Epstein
10s of thousands of hours we were told about the abuse of
children are children abusing other children that are children
abusing themselves, that they are just photographed in states
of undressed or videoed in that but they don't actually have
anybody abusing them or that that person is all Jeffrey
Epstein? What in the hell is he trying to
say here with this argument? Because when you listen to it,
you go, I don't believe you. I don't believe what you're
saying. This is bad spin.
It's Bill O'Reilly bad spin from someone who's very bright.
You don't have to like Ben Shapiro, but I know he's smart
because I've listened to him speak.
And to be able to speak at that speed and articulate a message
is a gift. You have a gifted cerebellum.
Watch them talk and not make sense.
That makes me uncomfortable. Thousands of hours of tape.
There are, by the way, but they are child pornography.
The reason the FBI is not releasing them is because those
tapes do not include underage people with third parties on
Epstein Island. That is not what the tapes are.
Yeah, I also have sources in the federal government who are
covering this stuff and have seen the documents.
OK. Those tapes are just child porn.
That's all. That's what they are.
That's why the FBI is not releasing them.
As far as the Epstein list, what I have been told by my sources
is that the there is no Epstein list, that basically there's a
black book of Jeffrey Epstein contact and the vast majority of
those contacts are already out there publicly.
That's why, you know, names like Prince Andrew or Alan Dershowitz
or some of the names that have been mentioned here.
Those contacts, there is no evidence according to the DOJ
and the FBI. And again, that's public.
There's no evidence that any of those third parties were having
girls trafficked to them. Here is Tucker then asserting
that it was actually Mossad again, without evidence that
not. Not a shock.
Of course, this is where Tucker was going.
That's not enough. Course, there's a lot of smoke
there. There are contacts that like
when his Madam has a father that was clearly tied in with some
sort of Israeli operations, was given awards by Israel for his
support of them. Funeral was attended by Israeli
intelligence officers and a Prime Minister and so on.
When you start looking at the people there, when you start
looking at Jeffrey Epstein and the fact that he is, he's
associated with that. He was the sole money manager
for Les Wesner, who was a very, very wealthy man who also spent
a bunch of money supporting Israel with the private
foundation, the Wexner Foundation.
That doesn't mean that you're an Intel operative, but when you
have unexplained sources of wealth, you've done things that
nobody else gets. In a business that's pretty well
established. Like if you're going to be a
money manager, you usually make money on commissions based on
performance. You don't get flat fees.
That's not normal. You don't see someone go from
being a school teacher to being a billionaire.
It could happen. America's a great place, but
people have questions about it, especially when America's number
one frenemy is involved. There are, of course,
intelligence and counterintelligence
investigations into people that are Israeli and people that are
working on behalf of Israel. So don't tell me that.
Don't tell me Ben Shapiro, don't don't dismiss my concerns.
You don't get to do that. You don't have the evidence that
says otherwise. I can be asking these questions
and that and it gets more and more suspicious when Donald
Trump tells his supporters, don't waste your time in the
Epstein files. And this is a, an NPR episode
or, sorry, an NPR article saying very similar things.
When I'm telling you that mayor, like all of this media
operation, it seems really, really bad.
It seems poorly laid out. It seems like it's a really bad
op not being done well. And they're all violating rule
#1 which is put down the damn shovel.
You can't not talk about it anymore.
That time has passed. When I was talking to Alex Jones
the other day, we both agreed that if you were doing this
right and you really wanted to sell one on the American people,
you just, you would just keep them waiting in perpetuity and
you would never say anything. You wouldn't drop a memo on a
Sunday afternoon to an adversarial slash Intel
mouthpiece like Axios and have them tell you that the it's all
over and there's no Co conspirators and no one's going
to be indicted and there's no blackmail material and
everything we've told you is nothing.
And by the way, we're never going to address it again and
we're not going to hold a press conference and we're not going
to make anything available to people.
We're just got to sit here and act like you're the crazy
people. It's irrelevant.
It's the Jeffrey Epstein hoax. That's where we're going to call
it from here on out. The hoax, the hoax of Epstein.
Man won't die. And then all the cute people are
like, oh, he's still alive. Like, Oh my God, he's he.
Trump said he won't die because he's still alive.
Stop people. They just made a terrible, bad,
awful decision. You know you can do that.
You can make a really, really bad decisions when you're a
little bit more addled than you used to be.
Donald Trump is not as fast or as swift as he was at one point
in time. You want some evidence?
We kind of love this. It's kind of funny if he's not
in the middle of a big scandal, you get a kick out of his weird
asides where he's like, let me just tell you about something
that I want to tell you about. My uncle was friends with the
Unabomber, and you're like, wait, what?
And he's like, yeah, he said he was a brilliant.
The the line between brilliant and madman is very, very Gray.
And you're like, oh, that's weird.
That's a that's a funny thing to say.
Maybe not in the middle of a scandal where people are trying
to ask you why you're either covering up for a pedophilia or
your government is just lying to people for years and then they
come forward and don't give you the truth.
This is not the best Trump in this moment.
This is a funny Trump in a regular moment.
It's a bad look now. It makes it look like he doesn't
have a grasp on what's happening.
Permits and I have to take it. I have to brag just for a
second, because when I first heard about AI, you know, it's
not my thing. Although my uncle was at MIT,
one of the great professors, 51 years, whatever, he was the
longest serving professor in the history of MIT, 3° in nuclear,
chemical and math. That's a smart man.
Kaczynski was one of his students.
Do you know who Kaczynski was? There's very little difference
between a mad man and a genius. But Kaczynski, I said, what kind
of a student was he? Uncle John, Doctor John Trump.
He said, what kind of a student? Manny said seriously good.
He said he'd correct. He'd go around correcting
everybody. But it didn't work out too well
for him. Didn't work out too well.
But it's interesting in life. But I will.
Like, I'm just doing a weird Unabomber discussion in the
middle of a talk about AI at an energy summit.
Like, MMM, just saying crazy stuff like, that's not great.
That's not a great move. Honing on the thing.
He should be limiting it. Now you got Mike Johnson
breaking away. Smithers, the S man is doing
some version of confusion here. He's also putting out his own
little spin on this thing, which is dumb.
Johnson says Bondy needs to come forward and explain the handling
of the Epstein files. They're talking about how
Congress is going to do this thing.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
The buck stops with the top. We just heard what Donald Trump
said over on True Social. He's put his piece out and his
piece out is this is a hoax. Well, you're going to have to
explain that. You can't just drop it and leave
it. And by the way, Congress doesn't
have the ability to mandate that the executive give up executive
files that are covered under either executive privilege or
they're covered under national security implications or they're
covered under criminal work. They don't have to give it up
because the Congress can't demand that the president give
up information that Congress doesn't have access to.
They don't run it. So this is a problem.
It's a problem that's not going away.
Again, you can repeat a narrative, but it doesn't
necessarily mean that you're being honest.
And again, this illusory truth thing continues to like, remind
me that repeating it over and over again sometimes doesn't
work because it's really transparent.
We're seeing it in real time. People are more tuned to media
OPS or information OPS. And let me be real clear when we
say things like PSYOP, right? A psychological operation.
What is a PSYOP? What is the purpose of the
PSYOP? A PSYOP, psychological operation
is meant to make you behave or believe or act a certain way.
And it's the way that they choose a A1 dimensional 1 is I
come and tell you, hey, this guy's a jerk.
And when you see him and he says something kind of quickly,
you're like, oh, yeah, well, Kyle already told me he was a
jerk. You're primed to believe one
thing, OK. Or I tell you over a period of
years, like I used to tell my my friends that my roommates in
college were in a cult. I'd say they're in a cult, but
they're really, really nice people.
They're in a cult, but they're really, really nice people.
I'd say it over and over again. And people would always kind of
like, you know, that was just a thing.
And then they would meet my roommates who are really, really
nice people, but they were in a cult.
And so they would have like, I don't know, like a pentagram in
their room or they'd have like a like a skull that had like a
like a candle out of it. Some of the weird shit that they
would just do. And my and people would meet
them and they'd be like, oh, and then they would always have a
soft reaction. They'd be like, they're really
nice people. Like, I don't know why you keep
saying they're in a cult. Well, you know, they just have
some interesting chase, chase and decor.
I set people up to believe cult means one thing.
They're really nice people. They focus in on the nice people
because I wanted to soften the blow of what weirdos they were.
Because they were weirdos. They would go out in the forest
and bury pieces of copper and like other weird stuff, like,
you know, they thought they could astral project.
They would sit and stare at candles all night, like strange
stuff. But they're nice people.
You can do a psyop that way. So you can set people
expectations, you can guide people, you can move things
around. What you can't do though, is try
to gaslight us after we're already aware that the operation
is happening. And so this is an information
op, a media op, a psyop, call it like every information op means
I'm giving you information. If I have a motivation in giving
it to you, that is a psychological operation.
I want you to feel a certain way.
Watch this little psyop here. This is just a fun one.
This has nothing to do with anything, but it's an example of
how bullshit our media has been for a very long time.
This looks like 90s television from what I can tell.
We're all seeing that in the new media too.
We're seeing it in the Ben Shapiro's.
We're seeing it in The View. We're seeing it in the Bill
O'reilly's. We're seeing it in New Nation,
We're seeing it on podcasts and so on and so forth.
We're seeing it over on X. We're seeing it on True Social.
I'm just going to repeat what I want you to believe.
It looks like this. A child's happiness is
priceless, especially on a birthday.
A. Child's happiness is priceless,
especially on a birthday. A child's happiness is
priceless, especially actually on a birthday.
A child's happiness. Is priceless, right?
Especially on a birthday. A child's happiness is
priceless, especially on a birthday.
Child's happiness is priceless, especially on a birthday.
A child's happiness is priceless, especially on their
birthday. A child's.
Happiness is priceless, especially on a birthday.
A. Child's happiness is priceless,
especially on a birthday. A child's happiness is
priceless, especially on a birthday when a child's
happiness is priceless. In a very confident tone and you
are wearing a suit. People will believe you if you
say bullshit. Priceless, priceless, she said.
Happiness is priceless. Let me just tell you with my
hands a child. 'S happiness is priceless,
especially on a birthday job. Happiness is priceless,
especially on a birthday. The child's happiness is
priceless, especially on a birthday.
A child. 'S happiness is priceless,
especially on a birthday a child.
'S happiness is priceless, especially on a birthday.
You like that? You like those balloons.
Isn't that great? You could just read the script.
Do you know that most news and most of those monologues that
come out in the front, they're written by people that are not
the person that's reading it. And then they're going to give
you a delivery. They say the thing if you take
them off script, they often times fall apart, which is where
we're getting and we're starting to expose them.
This is the upside of the podcast environment.
It's the upside of some of this kind of work.
You might have an opportunity to expose these people.
I'm going to give you an example of someone who does the Donald
Trump thing, which is doing the hands, and he does it.
He has the same kind of hand motions.
Now imagine if the Donald Trump hands were done by like a
flamboyant, effeminate man who may or may not be gay.
What if you did that? Then you might get Gavin Newsom,
who when he's on message, will tell you that he feels strongly
about the way that this is working in his head but also in
your heart. Right?
He's a crazy person. Watch these hands.
He's being asked about trans surgeries on kids and gives no
answer. It's the nicest thing about
being in this media space where you actually have people that
maybe are not accountable for everyone who wants to call like
Sean Ryan, Acia, she'll like just give him a break.
This is he. He interviewed Gavin Newsom,
who's terrible, who's absolutely terrible, having lived there
when he was the when he was the the mayor of San Francisco and
some of the awful policies. The fact that he's a government
is like horrific. That's why California's going
down the toilet. Watch this guy try to spin
knowing that he's talking to someone that doesn't agree with
him and make sense out of nothing by saying nothing.
He's also not learned the first rule of polls.
In this case, he's not going to put down the shovel.
This is basically a transgender question version of the Trump
Epstein thing. Epic fail.
You can have it from either side.
Let's call out nonsense where we see nonsense.
Enjoy this only because it's so strange and awkward.
What about for your values? I mean, is is 8 years old too
young? Yeah, I mean, look, I I now that
I have a nine year old just became 9.
Come on, man. I get it.
So those are legit. You know, I it's it's
interesting. Just the issue of age.
I haven't, I'm as I am, as someone that's been so focused
on on equality, broadly LGBT rights, particularly gay
marriage. The trans issue for me is also
novel. It's, it's, it's over the last
few years. I'm trying to understand as much
as anyone else whole pronoun thing, trying to understand all
of that. What you know, that was like,
the hell, I mean, all that stuff.
I, I get it. What did he just say?
I think he said that the passage of time is significant because
time, as it passes, significantly impacts the way
that we perceive the passage of time.
That was a Kamala Harris. That was a it was nonsense,
total nonsense. And by the way, this and this
and this, like all of this craziness, the sad thing is, is
that we're seeing the exact same sort of just absolute epic
failure. It's not good when you when you
screw it up, you go forward and you own it.
And this is what owning it looks like.
It looks just like this KFC, for those of you who are just
listening and not and not watching, KFC ran an ad when
they ran out of chicken and they're a chicken company.
So having no chicken when you're a chicken company is the biggest
failure you can have. You sell a product that you
don't have any more. And so their letters are K&F&C,
and they organized them on their own bucket in a graphic that
said FCK, which is very, very clever.
And they wrote one message and then a paragraph underneath it.
But the headline is, we're sorry.
The Trump administration is going to need to do something
similar. Put down the shovel.
Own that you lied to people. What if that's what happened?
Or give people the truth. You don't have any other choice.
You can't message your way out of this.
And it reminds me that having a bunch of media people, they
should actually know better. Hag Seth, media person, right?
Bongino Patel, media people, They've got a lot of like foxy
news type people, Fox News, mainstream things.
The difference between being in government and doing media and
being in media and doing media. In media, you're selling the
birthday story and you're just reading from a script and
there's no one back there to Fact Check you because it's a
story that you came up with. Now, you could be wrong.
Maybe that's not interesting, but there's not like, I don't
know, documents in an entire department of people that you're
running cover for it. Doing PR is different than doing
just plain media and selling a story.
Right now you got people that are trying to do media kind of
spin when they really need actual PR.
By the way, I've seen this done. I made a recommendation early on
right when Cash Patel was in to his publicist, whose name is
Erica Knight. Erica, by the way, is behind a
lot of the spin stuff that you're seeing.
And she doesn't know anything about the FBI, which is really
scary. And she's messaging all this
craziness and giving like a like a media consulting how it's
going to play out. She's a very pretty lady.
She's a pretty, I think, single mom living in Florida working on
a government contract that she shouldn't have doing the thing
that she's doing right now. And when I said, you know, how
do you solve the Epstein situation?
What you need to do is you need to sequester a bunch of FBI
agents with the data. Let them run a logical
investigation where you're not going to deal with any
Washington pressure. So put them out in like, I don't
know, Pocatello ID. There's FB is different
facilities. Put them down at Huntsville.
Doesn't matter. Move them out of the way.
Give some AUSAS that are willing to prosecute if there's
something special counsel type status or just special
investigation task force. Put them all out there.
Leave them alone. Write off all of the normal
federal government garbage where they would have to have like a,
you know, virtual academies and ongoing training and compliance
regulations. Leave all that crap away.
Let them focus in on one thing every day you go in and do your
job and when they get started and start doing that, then you
message, look, folks, we take this seriously.
We didn't give this the right credit that we were supposed to.
And so here's what we're going to do.
We're going to, we're going to do it right.
And we've started that. They don't do that.
And you're not going to see Cash Patel do anything other than
what Cash Patel has been doing, which is messaging because
that's what she's recommended. And he's also super happy with
where he is. But Patel, the more I look into
it and the more I read about it, the more that you go out there
and and look into the dark corners.
He's got some real problems. Put it out yesterday.
Apparently it looks like he's trying to buy a new jet that's
way more expensive than the current jet, which is already
way more expensive than he should be flying in as the FBI
director, which is not a critical position.
If the FBI director doesn't show up for work, the deputy director
does something. If the deputy doesn't show up
for work, the associate deputy director does something.
And if that doesn't happen, all of your now assistant directors.
I think they changed the org chart.
But all those people know how to run all their own divisions.
At the end of the day, as an FBI agent, whatever the director
said had nothing to do with what cases I was running.
It didn't stop me or starve me if the director died, if all of
the Hoover building got vaporized in an alien attack, it
wouldn't have stopped the work that I was doing, where I was
doing it. It's completely nonsense, unless
you think that I'm being unfair to Cash Patel.
This is a story that I helped with previously.
I've covered this extensively. Chris Ray also was on a jet, and
I had massive problems with that.
And I had the whistleblowers disclosures that went to
Congress, including Josh Haley. Letting them know this is
unacceptable. Here's one of the last kind of
weird things because I haven't said it on the podcast here
before, but we've made some allusions to it.
A guy who owns a private jet, who I've sat at dinner with
along with Cash Patel and talked about private jets, including
the misuse of of the FBI's jet that was being done by by Chris
Wray at the time, is a guy named Michael Muldoon.
He's the CEO of BQ Resorts, the timeshare company.
He's a GOP mega donor. He writes 6 figure checks to GOP
causes and GOP candidates and for years, several years in
fact, he shared the same address on all of his donations that
political contributions and I've verified this with my own eyes
on the FEC records. He has the same address listed
that Cash Patel lived at for the last couple years and apparently
Cash is flying on his jet out to to Vegas to go live there and do
his work as FBI director out of that.
That's freaking crazy. All of that stuff is nutty.
There's some real problems with this guy, and he's not going to
rock the boat because he wants to have the job he has and it
didn't matter about doing the right thing.
So I am more and more soured on the fact that this person is
compromised. And it doesn't have to be some
sneaky thing about Israeli intelligence.
It can simply be. He always wanted to be a private
jet guy. Like the clip.
We've played you before, if you want to see it.
It's on my social media. Was it a joke?
Yes. Do people tell the truth
sometimes when they're telling a joke?
Absolutely. They flip and do.
So there you have it. All right.
That's what we've got for today's program.
I hope that made you think. I hope it makes you a little bit
concerned and I hope you understand that there's no
reason to move on. Again, just because the left
says something, just because the right says something, it doesn't
mean that we are in agreement with them.
We want the same outcome, but for very different motivations.
And the motivation is key. It's the way that you prosecute
the Mens Rea, if you will, the thing of the mind that tells us
why we back this thing. It's not because we want to see
Donald Trump unsuccessful. In fact, quite the opposite.
We like him to do the damn thing that we said he was going to do,
that he said he was going to do. You don't get to just call the
Jeffrey Epstein hoax and walk away.
I won't take that. All right?
I got something funny and stupid.
Maybe the reason why we're all able to be conned so easily with
these narratives is because English is a ridiculous
language. It's difficult, especially if
you're a foreigner. These are some of these like
English lessons that I find every once in a while.
I find them really fun. And they remind us that
communication, it's not intuitive even though our kids
figure it out. When you have kids learning
language and they use the wrong word, you realize like how dumb
our language is and maybe that's why we're so easily fooled.
So here's a little palate cleanse for that.
And we're going to get out of here with this as your sort of
send off into your Wednesday. So if we have more than one
turtle, all we're going to do is add an S and now we have
turtles. That's right.
Very good. Now, if we have more than one
goose, it would be it'd be gooses.
No, it's geese. You don't see how it.
It's because it's more than one goose.
Yeah. OK.
OK, let me let me give you one more try Here.
Let's do this right here. Really quick.
Let's do this right here. What word is that?
Moose. Moose.
Yes. Very good.
So more than one moose would be niece.
No, I mean, moose is. Nope.
Moosees. It'd be moose.
You don't see how if we have 1 moose it would be moose, but if
we have multiple moose it would be moose?
OK. Yeah, so our language is not
easy either. Goose, geese, moose, moose,
Moose's, turtles. You guys heard it.
All right, I hope you have a great Wednesday.
I hope that you go out there and think critically, not just about
why our English language is screwed up, but why these people
want to gaslight you. What are they trying to move you
towards? They're trying to move you
towards something. They need to put down the
shovel. They need to own this.
They need to eat the whole darn thing right in front of
everybody. They can do it.
Transparency is key. It's not just things we like.
It's your duty if you want to be an honest operator.
God bless you. Look forward to seeing you guys
again tomorrow. I hope you have a fantastic day
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