1 00:00:00,900 --> 00:00:04,300 Prepare to hear the truth from a real whistleblower, an American 2 00:00:04,300 --> 00:00:07,800 Patriot, here's civil liberties, enthusiasts, Second Amendment, 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,200 Defender and indefinitely suspended FBI agent. 4 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:18,300 Kyle seraphin. Hello my friends and welcome to 5 00:00:18,300 --> 00:00:21,500 the Kyle seraphin, show for marched 10th. 6 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:26,300 It's a Friday and in a variation on a famous Carl Sandburg quote, 7 00:00:26,300 --> 00:00:29,600 Ted Cruz once said, if you have the law on your side, hang on 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,600 the law. If you have the facts on your 9 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,800 side, bang on the facts. But if you have neither bang on 10 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,500 the table. Now, Sandberg is attributed was 11 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:41,700 saying Hound on the table and yell like hell and in a moment 12 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:45,400 like this, we are witnessing a Democrat Party that has neither 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:47,800 the facts, nor the law. On their side, and what are they 14 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:50,200 doing? But banging on the table and 15 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:53,500 yelling, like, how they're attempting to discredit The 16 00:00:53,508 --> 00:00:58,100 Messengers, Some of you may have seen our Monday show where we 17 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:01,300 talked about if you are catching Flack, then you're over the 18 00:01:01,300 --> 00:01:04,000 Target. And one of the messages that we 19 00:01:04,007 --> 00:01:08,400 took home from Stephen friend and from George Hill was that, 20 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,700 there was no refuting, the message that they brought when 21 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:14,100 they were testifying in front of Congress, there was only an 22 00:01:14,100 --> 00:01:16,500 attempt to discredit them as Messengers. 23 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,300 In today's show, we're going to be discussing some of those 24 00:01:20,300 --> 00:01:22,400 important moments that came from the house weaponization 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,000 committee testimony with Michael Schellenberg. 26 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,900 Matt Taibbi, that happened yesterday and after that, we're 27 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,200 going to talk about a little bit of the stonewalling and the 28 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,900 general malfeasance that continue to go on at the FBI 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,900 because they just can't help it. They're back in the news, we'll 30 00:01:36,900 --> 00:01:39,100 talk about a thread that usually Kelly put out, which I think is 31 00:01:39,100 --> 00:01:42,500 very telling, and I want to also discuss the way that CNN covers 32 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:45,900 it because, of course, the story that they lead with is not the 33 00:01:45,900 --> 00:01:49,600 story that is of note to anybody, that is involved in the 34 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,800 trials here, and the things that go on for the January 6 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,500 defendants, including the proud boys for their so Called 36 00:01:55,500 --> 00:02:00,500 seditious conspiracy. All right, so I want to get into 37 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:05,200 the Matt Taibbi and Schellenberg testimony that went on 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,000 yesterday. For those of you that are not 39 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,900 aware the house committee on the Judiciary, has convened, a 40 00:02:11,900 --> 00:02:16,000 subcommittee or a select committee on the weaponization 41 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:19,300 of the federal government. And what they decided to do in 42 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:24,000 their second public, hearing is discuss the Twitter files. 43 00:02:25,100 --> 00:02:27,900 If you're not following the Twitter files, you can find them 44 00:02:27,900 --> 00:02:32,200 on at least four different journalists threads. 45 00:02:32,500 --> 00:02:35,400 They are all being threaded by independent journalists 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:40,800 including Lee Fang. Barry Weiss who the members of 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:43,400 this committee did not know is a female. 48 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,400 Barry Weiss is a female Rider who historically has been at the 49 00:02:46,408 --> 00:02:50,100 New York Times, there is a man named Michael Schellenberg who's 50 00:02:50,100 --> 00:02:52,400 going to be pictured in some of this testimony that will show a 51 00:02:52,408 --> 00:02:56,200 couple of little scenes from and Matt, Taibbi, who worked for a 52 00:02:56,208 --> 00:02:59,400 long time at Rolling Stone. Now, I'm going to focus on Matt 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,900 Taibbi in many ways because he was the first person to begin 54 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:08,000 with the Twitter vials threads. I have a small Connection to him 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,900 and that we've spoken a number of times for a number of hours. 56 00:03:11,300 --> 00:03:15,300 And I find Matt Taibbi to be utterly credible and utterly 57 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:19,200 reasonable in the way that he approaches these things. 58 00:03:19,700 --> 00:03:24,400 What I don't find is that the ranking member Stacy Plaskett of 59 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,600 this house subcommittee on weaponization is bringing 60 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:32,300 anything to light and has any interest in achieving anything 61 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:34,700 close to the truth. So we're going to, we're going 62 00:03:34,700 --> 00:03:36,900 to kind of dip into how she did her opening statement. 63 00:03:36,900 --> 00:03:42,800 I want you Hear what she said and then we're going to hear the 64 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,300 address that Matt Taibbi came back with now I receive his sub 65 00:03:47,300 --> 00:03:51,600 stack, one of the weird things about him, interviewing me is 66 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,800 that we were going to be doing a story and so he gave me an 67 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,000 access to a sub stack. So I get emails of that. 68 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:59,100 Nearly every morning, sometimes a couple times a day for this 69 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:01,000 online magazine, which is called Racket. 70 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,000 And I'm going to read what he originally wrote as well. 71 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:08,800 Will play just his his Opening statement because he does have a 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,100 nice little rebuttal to this woman but let's go ahead and cut 73 00:04:11,100 --> 00:04:13,600 into looking at the ranking member. 74 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,200 This is Stacey Plaskett the representative from the United 75 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,200 States Virgin Islands and I'll tell you why. 76 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:20,800 That's also relevant in a second here. 77 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,300 So let's hear what she has to say. 78 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,400 Opening statements. Three weeks ago, house oversight 79 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,500 had this hearing with actual Twitter Executives, who had 80 00:04:32,500 --> 00:04:37,200 actual first-hand knowledge about what happened in 2020 and 81 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,800 that didn't go so well for the House, Republicans because real 82 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,100 evidence showed that there wasn't coordination between 83 00:04:44,100 --> 00:04:46,400 Twitter and the federal government. 84 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:49,900 So real evidence, I'm not confident that any of them 85 00:04:49,900 --> 00:04:53,500 brought any evidence Beyond people speaking and that's 86 00:04:53,500 --> 00:04:56,400 testimony but it's not evidence. And so once again this woman 87 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,400 this is not a serious person, she's going to get fake outrage 88 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,600 during a moment. It's kind of interesting to 89 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:03,600 watch. Whenever somebody is doing this, 90 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,300 just think about them bouncing on the table because she doesn't 91 00:05:06,300 --> 00:05:08,200 have facts. She doesn't even know what words 92 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:12,400 mean but unfortunately for her she's going to do this in public 93 00:05:12,500 --> 00:05:15,300 and it's most likely that some staffer wrote this because you 94 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:17,000 can tell she doesn't actually know what she's talking about. a 95 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:23,400 little bit later on as well as li like the recorder files 96 00:05:23,500 --> 00:05:28,100 really showed was a discussion on content moderation and that 97 00:05:28,100 --> 00:05:31,300 we only got a fraction of the discussion. 98 00:05:31,300 --> 00:05:33,800 Why is she mad? So now we're back again, no 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:35,800 surprise. What else have they got to talk 100 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,700 about? Not what's interested in the 101 00:05:38,700 --> 00:05:42,300 American people are interested. Not what taxpayer dollars have 102 00:05:42,300 --> 00:05:45,600 brought us here to Washington to do and the Republicans have 103 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,100 brought into of Elon Musk public scribes. 104 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:52,600 That's an embarrassing statement for her. 105 00:05:53,500 --> 00:05:56,600 So these are Elon musk's public scribes. 106 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,100 Forbes cover this as her slamming them I suppose. 107 00:06:01,100 --> 00:06:03,400 That's the case. I would say that she publicly 108 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,800 discredits herself, she's talking to two of the more 109 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,500 accomplished independent journalists in this country and 110 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:12,400 to people who are breaking. What is probably the most 111 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:16,400 important story of the last 10 years as noted, by the public 112 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,000 engagements, and we'll let Matt and have his own rebuttal to 113 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,100 that. But I'ma let her continue for a 114 00:06:21,108 --> 00:06:24,600 few moments. To release Cherry Picked out of 115 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:29,500 context emails and screenshots designed to promote his chosen 116 00:06:29,500 --> 00:06:33,000 narrative Elon Musk, chosen narrative. 117 00:06:33,100 --> 00:06:37,300 That is now being parroted by the Republicans because the 118 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:40,900 Republicans think that these witnesses will tell a story 119 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:44,800 that's going to help them out politically on Tuesday. 120 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:49,000 The majority released an 18-page report claiming to show that the 121 00:06:49,008 --> 00:06:54,800 FTC is quote harassing Twitter. Oh, my poor Twitter including by 122 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,300 seeking information about its interactions with individuals 123 00:06:58,300 --> 00:07:01,400 before us today. How did the report reached this 124 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:08,800 conclusion by showing to 12 single paragraphs from a single 125 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,600 demand letter? Even though the report itself 126 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,700 makes clear that there were new Morris demand letters with 127 00:07:15,700 --> 00:07:19,400 numerous requests. None of which we've been able to 128 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:25,000 see that are more demand letters and more requests of Twitter 129 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,500 that she got a little lost in there, she's talking about 130 00:07:28,500 --> 00:07:30,300 things that she doesn't understand because she doesn't 131 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:33,500 really know what it is that she's referring to Jim Jordan. 132 00:07:33,500 --> 00:07:36,500 Made it clear later on that day. That not only did the 133 00:07:36,500 --> 00:07:38,000 Republicans. Make it available to her, but 134 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,800 they didn't take advantage of that that offer she claims that 135 00:07:41,808 --> 00:07:43,300 it was because it was late at night. 136 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:46,100 It wasn't that That late. And I don't know if you were 137 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:48,100 going to be going in front of an open Hearing in front of people. 138 00:07:48,100 --> 00:07:51,000 You know, you're going to be on camera, then maybe you would 139 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,200 want to be educated about the thing that you're talking about, 140 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,500 but that's not necessary. In this case, it's not necessary 141 00:07:55,500 --> 00:07:58,600 for this woman to have any background on what she's saying. 142 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,800 So she just does this this routine where she's going to 143 00:08:02,808 --> 00:08:05,500 have this fake outrage. He's going to be making fun of 144 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:07,900 Twitter or Twitter. I mean, this is an American 145 00:08:07,900 --> 00:08:10,200 company. It's an American company, where 146 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:12,800 Americans work. It's owned by an American 147 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,100 citizen. And she in theory is accountable 148 00:08:16,100 --> 00:08:19,600 to the American citizens will discuss why that's even funnier 149 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,100 about her again. She's that the representative 150 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:25,500 from the Virgin Islands, which might surprise you to know that 151 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:27,800 there is, in fact, a delegate from there. 152 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:31,800 In other words, the key Conclusions are based on a 153 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:34,299 fraction of information out of context. 154 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:38,500 Cherry-picked surprise, just like the Twitter files. 155 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,100 All right, by that, that's all I can really tolerate from her. 156 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,700 And the thing about it is, is these words cherry-picked, it's 157 00:08:45,100 --> 00:08:52,400 of note that they also appear in the Democrat response to Steve 158 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,400 friend to Gare de loyal to George Hill. 159 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:01,200 This is What happens when the same people write responses in 160 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:03,200 on these committees? So, we're dealing with people 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,700 that, that are not particularly inventive. 162 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:09,000 They're not creative and they don't have a different line on 163 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,900 any of this. They're going to continue to say 164 00:09:10,900 --> 00:09:13,400 the same things and it's probably the same person who's 165 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:15,600 writing Her speech. If you're watching the rumble 166 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,600 video here. What you'll notice is that 167 00:09:17,700 --> 00:09:21,000 Stacey Plaskett continues to look down and reads directly off 168 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,200 the speech. These are not heartfelt words 169 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,800 that are her outrage. This is her performing. 170 00:09:26,300 --> 00:09:27,800 She's giving a performance. Formance. 171 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:30,300 It's a theatrical performance. It's not a particularly 172 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,000 compelling one. At least not to me because it 173 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,200 comes off as being very scripted, which it is. 174 00:09:36,300 --> 00:09:39,600 It literally comes directly out of a script that she's got in 175 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:44,200 front of her and that script involves her making little 176 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:46,900 faces. And, and being diminutive about 177 00:09:46,900 --> 00:09:49,200 an American company, that is doing something that I think 178 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,500 nobody else is doing in this social media space, which is 179 00:09:52,500 --> 00:09:55,800 trying to move towards a more free speech platform, which I 180 00:09:55,808 --> 00:10:01,200 think is an admirable goal. I was not on Twitter in the pre 181 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Elon Musk days at least not for very long. 182 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,700 I was, I got on Twitter in October of 2022. 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:10,600 So I've only really experienced the sort of the Elon Musk take 184 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,800 over and whatever that involves and it's been mostly free. 185 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,700 And I think that it's been mostly something that I've been 186 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:19,600 able to promote whatever ideas that I chose and those ideas 187 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,100 continue to result in more and more people following the 188 00:10:22,100 --> 00:10:25,800 account that I created and and I would say that that's how the 189 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,100 marketplace of ideas is supposed to work but But that doesn't 190 00:10:28,100 --> 00:10:30,700 necessarily mean that these people want that. 191 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:34,700 So it's, it's of note, I'm going to give Matt Taibbi, a chance to 192 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:38,900 say his response to this, and I may play more of this than not 193 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:41,000 but one way or another, I will read through his actual 194 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,000 statement. Because I think it's, I think 195 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,800 it's important because all of it is from a man who is 196 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,800 significantly smarter than Stacey Plaskett by Leaps and 197 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,000 Bounds and he wrote his own script and he doesn't have any 198 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,800 fake outrage, he doesn't have to pretend that it means Something 199 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,200 that it doesn't, they're words that he wrote down, he's got 200 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:01,700 this. If you're not looking at the the 201 00:11:01,700 --> 00:11:04,400 video that I've got in front of me here, he's got like a little 202 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:08,700 teal you know iMac or what do you call those things iPod? 203 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:11,100 That's not what they called iPad. 204 00:11:11,700 --> 00:11:14,700 I know it's an Apple product, he's sitting here with a little 205 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:18,600 propped up, you know, screen and he's going to read it because he 206 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,700 probably typed it out and that's his format. 207 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:24,500 So here he is sitting in a suit. Most most of you who are 208 00:11:24,500 --> 00:11:26,400 familiar with seeing Matt, Taibbi, we'll see you in a ball 209 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,300 cap. He's a he He's kind of a low-key 210 00:11:28,300 --> 00:11:30,400 dude. You know I've seen him in puffy 211 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:35,100 jackets his you know, his text messages come in and you know, 212 00:11:35,108 --> 00:11:38,500 he and I will infrequently text, but occasionally I'll reach out 213 00:11:38,500 --> 00:11:41,700 to him and it just shows up in a very low key setting and he's 214 00:11:41,700 --> 00:11:43,700 got all of his Awards and stuff like that behind him, whatever 215 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,400 he does like a Skype hit or something like that. 216 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,100 So this is kind of an interesting look he's wearing a, 217 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:51,400 you know, a pink shirt and kind of a darker color tie with a 218 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:53,000 dark suit and he looks very professional. 219 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,700 And if you don't know anything about Matt, Taibbi, he was an 220 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:59,000 athlete in his Younger days, he went and played professional 221 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:03,400 basketball over in Russia and I think in Mongolia as well and I 222 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:06,900 mean he's a physical dude in the same way that when you see him 223 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:09,300 sit and talk to someone like Joe Rogan which he did recently, 224 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:12,500 these are two physical characters and then you have 225 00:12:12,500 --> 00:12:14,100 this woman out there doing this performance. 226 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:17,800 So without any further Ado, I'm this is actually a tribute off 227 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:23,000 at Dinesh d'souza's YouTube page here and we're going to hear, 228 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:27,000 Matt in his own words Chairman Jordan ranking member Plaskett 229 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,800 members of the select committee. Thank you for having me today. 230 00:12:29,100 --> 00:12:32,200 My name is Matt Taibbi, I've been a reporter for 30 years and 231 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,800 a staunch advocate of the First Amendment much of that time was 232 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,400 spent at Rolling Stone magazine. Ranking member Plaskett, I'm not 233 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,000 a so-called journalist. I've won the national magazine 234 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:43,700 award, the eye of stone award for independent journalism, and 235 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:46,400 I've written 10 books, including for New York, time to New York 236 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:49,200 Times bestsellers. So that's, that's Jim. 237 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,000 Jordan laughing in the background, there, which is 238 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,600 pretty fantastic. I didn't play all the way 239 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:54,900 through the cut, but she refers to these. 240 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 These guys, both Schellenberg and Taibbi, as a so-called 241 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,700 journalist, or as so-called journalists which is pretty 242 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:02,800 offensive. This is her once again, they're 243 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:06,600 attempting to discredit the messenger because this is pound 244 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,500 on the table. There's no reason for you to do 245 00:13:09,500 --> 00:13:11,700 that and try to like demean a witness that you've never even 246 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:14,500 spoken to. And I'm going to tell you why 247 00:13:14,500 --> 00:13:17,300 these these hearings are going to end up failing on both sides 248 00:13:17,300 --> 00:13:20,100 in a second here. But we'll just, we'll let Jim 249 00:13:20,100 --> 00:13:22,400 Jordans laughs, continue it and and Matt's words. 250 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:25,600 Now, the editor of the online magazine, racket on the 251 00:13:25,608 --> 00:13:28,300 independent platforms up stack. I'm here today because of a 252 00:13:28,308 --> 00:13:30,700 series of events that began late last year, when I received a 253 00:13:30,708 --> 00:13:32,500 note from a source online, it red. 254 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:35,300 Are you interested in doing a deep dive into what censorship 255 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,200 of manipulation was going on at Twitter? 256 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,800 A week later the first of what became known as the Twitter 257 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:41,800 files. Reports came out to say these 258 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:43,700 attracted intense public interest would be an 259 00:13:43,700 --> 00:13:47,600 understatement my computer look like a Vegas slot machine as 260 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:49,500 they're just the first tweet. About the blockage of 100, 261 00:13:49,500 --> 00:13:53,500 Biden, laptop, story registered 143 million impressions, And 30 262 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:56,600 million engagements, just want people to understand what that 263 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:57,700 is. If you're not a social media 264 00:13:57,700 --> 00:14:03,700 person, 143 million views and he said, 30 million engagements. 265 00:14:03,700 --> 00:14:05,900 When I send out something right now, I have something like 266 00:14:05,900 --> 00:14:09,700 60,000 or 65 thousand followers. Something in that range on 267 00:14:09,700 --> 00:14:12,800 Twitter, you know, I'll catch anywhere between five and ten 268 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 thousand views on a regular tweet that people are not 269 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,500 interested in on a big one. Maybe 100, 150 thousand 270 00:14:18,500 --> 00:14:20,300 something to that effect. That's if people start picking 271 00:14:20,300 --> 00:14:22,800 it up and moving it around, I think the biggest one we've had 272 00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:26,300 Had six or seven hundred thousand views one, this one had 273 00:14:26,300 --> 00:14:31,100 143 million views, there's so much interest in what was going 274 00:14:31,100 --> 00:14:34,800 on there and 30 million engagements means people that 275 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,600 retweeted it that that shared the same subject that they had 276 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,100 already seen people that had commented on it of which there 277 00:14:41,100 --> 00:14:45,100 was a, just an incredible volume of people commenting on it. 278 00:14:45,100 --> 00:14:48,200 Everybody wanted to put their take on it and I was watching 279 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,300 these things come down. I actually was involved in some 280 00:14:50,300 --> 00:14:52,800 panel discussions on the original drops like this. 281 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:57,000 Because people lost their minds about this sort of transparency 282 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,500 and it is a big deal and it was a big deal at the time. 283 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,700 And the number of engagements there are some pretty 284 00:15:02,700 --> 00:15:04,900 breathtaking numbers for the platform. 285 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:08,500 Twitter wasn't until a week after the first report, after 286 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:11,200 Michael shellenberger, very wise and other researchers, join the 287 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,500 search of the files that we started to grasp. 288 00:15:13,500 --> 00:15:16,500 The significance of this story. The original promise of the 289 00:15:16,500 --> 00:15:18,300 internet was that it might democratize. 290 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:21,600 The exchange of information globally, a free internet. 291 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Would overwhelm all attempts. To control information flow. 292 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,100 It's very existence is a threat to anti-democratic forms of 293 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:30,300 government everywhere. What we found in the files was a 294 00:15:30,300 --> 00:15:33,600 sweeping effort to reverse that promise and use machine learning 295 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:36,700 and other tools to turn the internet into an instrument of 296 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:39,700 censorship and social control. Unfortunately, our own 297 00:15:39,700 --> 00:15:41,700 government appears to be playing a lead role. 298 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:44,300 We saw the first Hanson Communications between Twitter 299 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:47,100 Executives before the 2020 election, when we read things 300 00:15:47,100 --> 00:15:51,200 like Flag by DHS or please see attached report from FBI for 301 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,900 potential misinformation. This would be attached to an 302 00:15:53,900 --> 00:15:56,500 Excel spreadsheet with long lists of names whose accounts 303 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:59,900 were often suspended shortly after again, ranking member 304 00:15:59,900 --> 00:16:00,800 class. Could I would note that the 305 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,200 evidence of Twitter government relationship includes lists of 306 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,600 tens of thousands of names on both the left and right. 307 00:16:05,700 --> 00:16:08,200 The people affected include Trump supporters but also 308 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,300 left-leaning sites like Consortium and Truth out the 309 00:16:11,300 --> 00:16:13,900 leftist, South American Channel, tell us or the yellow vest 310 00:16:13,900 --> 00:16:16,000 movement. That in fact is a key point of 311 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,700 the Twitter files that is neither a left or right issue. 312 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:22,500 So, I think it's really an important point that Matt makes 313 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:24,500 right there. This is not supposed to be a 314 00:16:24,500 --> 00:16:27,800 left or right issue and it's something that he continues to 315 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:31,600 accurately State as he moves through his testimony through 316 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,500 the entire day. This testimony went on for 317 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,500 hours. I live stream which case to 318 00:16:35,500 --> 00:16:38,100 Tracy beans for some of it. So I'll encourage you to check 319 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:43,000 out the the uncovered DC Rumble Channel, if you want to see that 320 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,000 it was mostly us kind of pausing and talking or speaking over the 321 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:48,600 top of these clowns. Because some of them were just 322 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,900 saying things that were So patently absurd, we were 323 00:16:50,900 --> 00:16:54,400 watching in real time, they the failure to understand what it 324 00:16:54,408 --> 00:16:55,900 was that they were even talking about. 325 00:16:55,900 --> 00:16:59,300 Most of these congresspeople seems like have a weak grasp of 326 00:16:59,300 --> 00:17:02,100 the internet which is kind of incredible incredible in this 327 00:17:02,100 --> 00:17:06,300 day and age. What what Taibbi is talking 328 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:10,000 about when he says that this neither a left or right issue is 329 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,300 something I want to hone in on because they're banging on the 330 00:17:12,300 --> 00:17:14,599 messenger here, but the messenger is not a partisan 331 00:17:14,599 --> 00:17:17,700 messenger, you know, Taibbi is a Democrat which Jim Jordan 332 00:17:17,700 --> 00:17:19,099 revealed later on. He asked them both. 333 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:21,099 They both said they were registered as Democrats. 334 00:17:21,700 --> 00:17:25,099 He's an old-school liberal he describes himself in this speech 335 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:28,900 is an old-school ACLU style liberal in other words he's one 336 00:17:28,900 --> 00:17:31,100 of those people that believes that even if he doesn't agree 337 00:17:31,100 --> 00:17:34,700 with you that you have the right to speak and and I feel the same 338 00:17:34,700 --> 00:17:38,600 way we don't have the same beliefs about some things. 339 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:43,300 I know that his issues with religions are his issues but I 340 00:17:43,300 --> 00:17:46,600 know Matt Taibbi wouldn't have a problem with me having religion. 341 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,900 He wouldn't have a problem with you having religion. 342 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,700 And I think it's really important that there used to be 343 00:17:51,700 --> 00:17:54,300 that Common Ground. Matt is one of those guys that I 344 00:17:54,300 --> 00:17:57,900 think probably Stood Still and he's written about the Russia 345 00:17:57,900 --> 00:18:01,400 gate collusion hoax and how nonsensical it was because the 346 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,600 facts weren't there. He's a guy that falls the facts. 347 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Now there's always a sense of editorial bias when you deal 348 00:18:06,600 --> 00:18:09,600 with riders when you deal with reporters and as someone who 349 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,700 grew up around, newsrooms literally my whole life. 350 00:18:12,700 --> 00:18:18,200 My father was the news director for a west coast news station 351 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:23,700 for CBS Radio KCBS, 7:40 a.m. he ran that the year that I was 352 00:18:23,700 --> 00:18:27,700 born and spent you know, a lot of time around the news when I 353 00:18:27,700 --> 00:18:31,500 was in my early teens or at least in my I don't know 354 00:18:31,500 --> 00:18:34,200 whatever it is. Middle Middle School ages, he 355 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,800 ran a radio station in Dallas, Texas, which was called krld. 356 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:40,700 It was the largest new signal in the state of Texas. 357 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:44,100 It was the flagship, the Texas state networks and when you, 358 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:49,100 when you are around news people, there's always a bias to say 359 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,700 Otherwise is absurd. And the bias is usually supposed 360 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:56,600 to be in a real traditional setting bias should be based on 361 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:01,300 what stories are chosen. Not based on how they cover the 362 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:03,600 story necessarily now, they might pick an angle a little bit 363 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:06,100 differently than others. But the, the facts of the story 364 00:19:06,100 --> 00:19:08,900 are supposed to be the facts of story and my experience with 365 00:19:08,900 --> 00:19:12,400 Matt, Taibbi, has been that. That's what he's interested in. 366 00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:16,100 He's interested in the facts. The facts go wherever they go 367 00:19:16,500 --> 00:19:19,500 and the fact that he's interested in the story, that's 368 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:21,700 the end of it. That's the amount of editing 369 00:19:21,900 --> 00:19:24,000 the, he's going to be doing for the editorial line of it. 370 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,500 And the rest of it is just how do you put that information out 371 00:19:26,500 --> 00:19:28,700 in a way that you can understand? 372 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,500 I'm going to I'm going to quote a little bit further in a second 373 00:19:31,500 --> 00:19:32,800 here but I'll give him a moment just to do it. 374 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,500 The left and the right issue is so important. 375 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:37,600 It's something that has been stated in the disclosures given 376 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:41,500 by, by Me by a several other whistleblowers that I'm aware of 377 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:43,000 bye. Steve Friend by George Hill. 378 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:45,200 By Garrett. Oh boy, we've actually written 379 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,200 these things down to Congress. This is not a left or right 380 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:51,700 issue the idea that there is a weaponized doj or a weaponized 381 00:19:51,700 --> 00:19:54,900 FBI, that there is a Twitter that's out there. 382 00:19:54,900 --> 00:19:58,500 That is a, you know, censoring People based on their political 383 00:19:58,500 --> 00:20:01,200 beliefs. These are not left or right 384 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,200 issues because that could swing back on anyone and I thinking 385 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:10,600 person, easily notes that censorship for one can result in 386 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,900 censorship for all. It's just a quick question. 387 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,600 On of what's in Vogue and whether the regime changes, so 388 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:20,000 an incredibly dangerous set of policies to be playing around 389 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:23,600 with, and for whatever reason, you know, the Democrats in this 390 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,800 committee, can't hear it. They can't hear it at all 391 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:28,500 because they're too busy. They're too busy. 392 00:20:30,500 --> 00:20:32,200 Whatever you, what would you even call that? 393 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,700 Like, they're too busy being preoccupied with attacking this 394 00:20:34,700 --> 00:20:37,900 Messenger, as opposed to being able to accept that. 395 00:20:37,900 --> 00:20:40,400 The messenger may have some valid information and points to 396 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:42,400 share. Let Mass stays some more of his 397 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,900 own words. Following the trail of 398 00:20:46,900 --> 00:20:49,000 communications between Twitter and the federal government 399 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,600 across tens of thousands of emails, led to a series of 400 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,200 Revelations mr. Chairman we summarized and 401 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:56,300 submitted them to the committee in the form of a new Twitter 402 00:20:56,300 --> 00:20:58,400 file strike, which was also released to the public this 403 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,500 morning. We learned Twitter, Facebook, 404 00:21:01,500 --> 00:21:04,200 Google, and other companies developed a formal system for 405 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,300 taking in moderation requests from every corner of government. 406 00:21:07,300 --> 00:21:11,400 From the FBI, the DHS, the HHS DOD, the global engagement 407 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,800 Center at State, even the CAA for every government agency 408 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,700 scanning Twitter. Or perhaps 20 quasi, private 409 00:21:17,700 --> 00:21:20,100 entities doing the same thing, including Stanford's election, 410 00:21:20,100 --> 00:21:22,200 Integrity partnership, News Guard. 411 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:24,800 The global disinformation index and many others. 412 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:28,500 Many taxpayer-funded a focus of this fast-growing Network as 413 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,700 Mike, noted is making lists of people whose opinions beliefs 414 00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:34,600 associations or sympathies are deemed misinformation 415 00:21:34,700 --> 00:21:38,100 disinformation or mal information that last term is 416 00:21:38,100 --> 00:21:41,800 just a euphemism for true. But inconvenient undeniably the 417 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:43,500 making of such lists is a form of digital. 418 00:21:43,500 --> 00:21:46,700 McCarthyism ordinary Americans are Just being reported the 419 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,300 Twitter for D amplification or be platforming, but the firms 420 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:52,200 like PayPal digital, advertisers like Zander, and crowdfunding 421 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,800 sites, like GoFundMe. These companies can and you 422 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,100 refuse service to law-abiding. People and businesses, whose 423 00:21:58,100 --> 00:22:00,600 only crime is falling afoul of a distant. 424 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,000 Baseless unaccountable algorithmic judge. 425 00:22:04,100 --> 00:22:08,400 All right, so Matt's discussion here and I was following along 426 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,100 with the, with the actual text that he had sent off to his sub 427 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:15,300 stack subscribers. There's a couple of little 428 00:22:15,300 --> 00:22:16,800 interesting points in their number one. 429 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,900 He said he made this available in a Twitter thread and then 430 00:22:19,900 --> 00:22:22,600 also gave it to the members of the House. 431 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:28,400 There is a woman who later on in the testimony starts asking 432 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:30,300 questions and it is immediately evidence. 433 00:22:30,300 --> 00:22:32,200 Number one. She refers to bury wisest mr. 434 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:34,600 Weiss that's kind of funny. If anybody follows anything 435 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,400 Barry spilled be a RI and Barry Weiss is a female. 436 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,700 I believe she's a lesbian. That's what my wife was telling 437 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,700 me, and she's a reporter for the New York Times. 438 00:22:44,700 --> 00:22:45,800 She's been around for a long time. 439 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,200 She's been a very reputable Rider at least on the left. 440 00:22:49,300 --> 00:22:51,900 She's been kind of a darling of the left and she's been one of 441 00:22:51,900 --> 00:22:54,900 the more serious people. Many ways that wrote for the New 442 00:22:54,900 --> 00:22:58,500 York Times, she was involved in this project because they 443 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:01,800 basically got almost all left-leaning credible 444 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:07,100 journalists who did a story that turned out to write about how 445 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:12,800 Twitter in this case was censoring people on the right. 446 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:15,400 So all these left-leaning journalists are out there 447 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,700 writing about how the left was censoring people on the right. 448 00:23:20,700 --> 00:23:24,000 It's really important how to note like these people were not 449 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,700 seeking favor from a group and saying, like I'm about to change 450 00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:29,700 teams here, that's not what was going on that they went where 451 00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:31,000 the story was because they're honest. 452 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Operators in that way. I think that's the case. 453 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:38,600 It's also worth noting that Matt talks about how there are real 454 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,100 world amplify, you know, situations that are far outside 455 00:23:41,100 --> 00:23:43,100 of what goes on with social media. 456 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:45,200 And in some ways I think social media is one of those. 457 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,600 It's a silly Canary in the coal. Mine, I think those are words to 458 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,300 use later on, in the In this testimony, it is just a small 459 00:23:53,300 --> 00:23:57,000 indicator of how people are being cancelled out of society. 460 00:23:57,700 --> 00:23:59,700 Now, producer Phil who's not with me today. 461 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,700 But producer Phil always talks about not being suspended from 462 00:24:04,700 --> 00:24:07,900 the FBI, not being fired from the FBI, but being canceled from 463 00:24:07,900 --> 00:24:11,500 the FBI in the same way that Matt, Taibbi is talking about 464 00:24:11,500 --> 00:24:14,900 these D amplifications or D platforming 's and then those 465 00:24:14,900 --> 00:24:19,400 can have real world consequences in bigger, bigger venues and 466 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,600 forums those. Things can include things like 467 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,200 PayPal as he mentioned, digital advertisers. 468 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:26,000 So what does that? That's, that's people that 469 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,300 actually going to be placing advertisements on content, so, 470 00:24:29,300 --> 00:24:33,300 you could actually lose access to potential income crowdfunding 471 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:35,600 sites, like, GoFundMe. Many of you will always know 472 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,200 that. There's a reason why the 473 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,500 fundraising site that most conservatives are using now is 474 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:44,200 give send go, it doesn't have the broader reach. 475 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,800 It doesn't have the ability for people to, to pop in and find 476 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,300 your, your campaign on accidents. 477 00:24:50,500 --> 00:24:52,800 Certainly, the much smaller audience when it comes to the 478 00:24:53,100 --> 00:24:55,900 number of people that are regularly looking at that, that 479 00:24:55,900 --> 00:24:59,000 platform because GoFundMe set itself up and it really 480 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,900 dominated the market place. When people ask you, do you have 481 00:25:01,900 --> 00:25:03,700 a go fund me? It's like, well, no, we have a 482 00:25:03,700 --> 00:25:06,600 gifts and go and some will know what that is. 483 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:11,700 And other people will, you know, wonder why this is a an 484 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:13,500 alternative and why does it have to happen? 485 00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:16,500 It has to happen. Because as Taibbi, accurately 486 00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:19,400 notes, these distant facelifts unaccountable algorithmic 487 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,400 judges, Words. But I think excellently phrased, 488 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,800 these algorithmic judges and sometimes with human moderation 489 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:31,200 on top of it will eliminate you from that conversation. 490 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:36,000 You're not going to be privy to the, you know, to the human 491 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,100 engagements that exist on that those forums because they've 492 00:25:39,100 --> 00:25:40,800 deemed you that you're inappropriate. 493 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:43,500 Actually, I'm going to go back to him for one more moment 494 00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:45,800 because I do want him to describe what he thinks was the 495 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,100 real problem here, and he does kind of wrap it up. 496 00:25:48,100 --> 00:25:51,100 So let me let me send it back over here to To Matt and then 497 00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:55,100 we'll will discuss further as someone who grew up a 498 00:25:55,100 --> 00:25:57,900 traditional ACLU. Liberal this mechanism for 499 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:00,800 punishment and deprivation, without due process is 500 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,500 horrifying. Another troubling aspect is the 501 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:06,400 role of the press, which should be the people's last line of 502 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,800 defense in such cases. But instead of investigating 503 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,000 these groups journalists partnered with them, if Twitter 504 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,400 declined to remove an account right away, government agencies 505 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,600 and ngos would call reporters for the New York Times 506 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,100 Washington Post and other outlets who in turn would call 507 00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,600 Twitter demanding to know why action had not yet been taken 508 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,800 that, that mechanism of enforcement is very very 509 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,000 interesting and it's something that they were noting. 510 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,400 So in the Twitter files, they would note that not only did, 511 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,000 you know, something happened that would be a an inbound 512 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,700 requests from the government. From the government. 513 00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,000 I mean, that should be shocking to people. 514 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,500 The government would request censorship the removal of an 515 00:26:38,500 --> 00:26:44,200 account and then they would leak it to sympathetic ngos and 516 00:26:44,300 --> 00:26:47,300 reporters. And, you know, different outlets 517 00:26:47,300 --> 00:26:49,700 on the news that were all on the left New York Times, Washington 518 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:53,300 Post says he mentioned and those agencies those news 519 00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:56,700 organizations, or whatever they are now, advocacy groups would 520 00:26:56,700 --> 00:27:02,700 call in or email in and demand The censorship that was already 521 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:05,200 requested by the government. So you know, there's a great 522 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,300 Meme and it shows you know, old school journalists which is 523 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:10,400 essentially like there's a government mouthpiece. 524 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,700 The government mouthpiece is like, squawking, something and 525 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:15,800 there's a bunch of people behind the journalist and the 526 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:20,600 journalist is basically, like, squawking back and pushing back 527 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,800 on the government narrative. And then it says, you know, 528 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,700 today's mainstream media and it's the government squawking at 529 00:27:25,700 --> 00:27:27,800 a Podium. The people are all behind and 530 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:30,200 the journalist has basically turned and is squawking the same 531 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,400 direction and zh, you know, now the Press takes his marching 532 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,200 orders from the government. This is one of those great 533 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:41,200 examples, but unfortunately it neuters the fourth estate, which 534 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:45,000 is the you know what journalists are supposed to be historically. 535 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,500 The American sentiment is that the Press is what keeps the 536 00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:51,700 government in check. It's a group of people that, 537 00:27:52,300 --> 00:27:57,200 that will not just listen and then regurgitate, but we'll 538 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,000 listen digest and then push back. 539 00:28:00,100 --> 00:28:03,900 Whereas And and growing up around newsrooms. 540 00:28:03,900 --> 00:28:06,700 As I said, this was the kind of people that I was used to 541 00:28:06,700 --> 00:28:08,100 seeing. They were all kind of 542 00:28:08,100 --> 00:28:10,700 countercultural types. A lot of them were real quirky 543 00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:13,200 and weird individuals. They had weird backgrounds and 544 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,200 life stories. They had unusual tastes they 545 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,700 had, you know, strange decorations in their homes. 546 00:28:19,700 --> 00:28:22,400 They were almost like artists in some ways like, they were part 547 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:27,100 of a community of people that were nonconformists and, you 548 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:30,200 know, in the classic sort of throw sense, you know, who 549 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,400 should be a man. Is a nonconformist. 550 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,100 I know I butchered that one but essentially, you know, they 551 00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:37,400 wanted to be people who stood in their own two feet who had their 552 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,100 own ideas and would push back against whatever that narrative 553 00:28:40,100 --> 00:28:43,400 was that was what it meant to be to be someone who stuck it to 554 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,900 the man was a journalist who you know, what's the deeper story 555 00:28:46,900 --> 00:28:48,600 here. And what we're seeing now are 556 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:53,900 mouthpieces of a regime that most most every corporate media. 557 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,800 And this is why I'm friends with people, like Tracy, beans, who's 558 00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,900 willing to just publish the things that are true and honest. 559 00:28:58,900 --> 00:29:02,200 And, and that they have the receipts for Which is kind of a 560 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:06,400 frustrating experience. You know, reason recent 561 00:29:07,100 --> 00:29:10,000 construction for this, the receipts that you can show that 562 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,200 something was bought but essentially being able to bring 563 00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,400 the documents to bring the evidence, which is at the actual 564 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,600 word we're looking for, in this case, you know, to have 565 00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,700 evidence. And then let the evidence lead 566 00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:22,400 you, where it is. That's what a real investigator 567 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,400 does. That's how journalists used to 568 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,700 work. That's what I thought I was 569 00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:28,100 joining the FBI for what it's worth. 570 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,100 Give Matt just another couple seconds here, effectively news. 571 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,900 I became an arm of the state sponsored thought policing 572 00:29:33,900 --> 00:29:35,600 system. I'm running out of time so I'll 573 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,200 just sum up and say It's just not possible to instantly arrive 574 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:40,800 at truth. It is. 575 00:29:40,900 --> 00:29:44,400 It is however possible becoming technologically possible to 576 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:47,100 instantly Define and enforce of political consensus online. 577 00:29:47,300 --> 00:29:48,900 Which I believe is what we're looking at. 578 00:29:48,900 --> 00:29:51,700 This is a grave threat to people of all political Persuasions, 579 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,800 the First Amendment and American population, accustomed to the 580 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,300 right to speak is the best defense left against the 581 00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,100 censorship industrial complex. If the latter can knock over our 582 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,600 first and most important, constitutional guarantee these 583 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,600 groups will have no serious opponent left anywhere. 584 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,400 If there's anything that's where file show is that. 585 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,000 We're in danger of losing this most precious right without 586 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,100 which all Democratic rights are impossible. 587 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:14,500 Thank you for the opportunity to appear and I'd be happy to 588 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:15,700 answer any questions from the committee. 589 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:21,700 All right, so You know, he left out some things that he had sent 590 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:24,300 over via email and so I'm going to read some of those because I 591 00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:25,800 think they're also really important. 592 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,500 You can tell that Matt is not faking anything, he doesn't 593 00:30:29,500 --> 00:30:32,700 have, he doesn't, he's not an actor. 594 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,700 You can. His delivery is not as good as 595 00:30:35,700 --> 00:30:39,400 it could be. He's not someone who is doing a 596 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,500 performance. You can tell he's probably like 597 00:30:41,500 --> 00:30:45,400 a nervous writer. Who is less comfortable 598 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400 appearing behind a microphone, then? 599 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:53,700 Then then most of these Congress people who are used to doing 600 00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:56,900 theater in that sort of forum. So some of the things he said 601 00:30:57,300 --> 00:30:59,700 that I think are that were left out, he ran out of time and he 602 00:30:59,708 --> 00:31:01,400 skipped over these. But let's, let's cover what it 603 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:03,600 is. He said some will say so what, 604 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,700 why should we eliminate disinformation to begin with? 605 00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:12,600 You can't have a state-sponsored system targeting disinformation 606 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:17,000 without striking at the essence of the right to free speech. 607 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:21,300 These two ideas are Conflict, such an important concept, that 608 00:31:21,300 --> 00:31:23,600 you cannot censor out. And there's a reason why our 609 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,700 free speech is includes Miss Des or even Mal information as they 610 00:31:27,700 --> 00:31:31,000 have stated, which you had mentioned, is just a euphemism 611 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,400 for unpopular ideas. It says many of the fears 612 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:35,300 driving. What? 613 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:37,200 What? Michael Schellenberg calls the 614 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,600 censorship industrial complex, what I've called the 615 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:45,400 information, industrial complex also inspired the famous Alien 616 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:50,000 and Sedition Acts of 1798, The latter outlawed any false 617 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,600 scandalous and malicious writings against Congress or the 618 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:56,100 president. Now, we don't believe that these 619 00:31:56,100 --> 00:31:58,400 things make any sense right now, but you don't know about the 620 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:03,800 alien sedition laws going back to the end of the, what is that 621 00:32:04,500 --> 00:32:08,000 19th century, then then look into it American history. 622 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,400 I think is not well taught and or it's not well received by 623 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,200 people in this country. So understand that these were, 624 00:32:14,300 --> 00:32:17,200 these were salacious laws that were written and they were 625 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,800 pretty egregious compared to Our belief that we should have free 626 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,400 speech and of course, the idea that you couldn't write anything 627 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:26,900 false Slanders or malicious. Even if it was true is not 628 00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:30,700 something that we're accustomed to at this point, continuing to 629 00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,500 quote, Taibbi here, here's something that will sound 630 00:32:32,500 --> 00:32:35,100 familiar supporters of the law. Hundreds of years ago were quick 631 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:38,500 to denounce their critics as sympathizers with a hostile 632 00:32:38,500 --> 00:32:41,600 foreign power at that time, France. 633 00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:46,000 So you just substitute in Russia and that's where we're getting 634 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,400 these Russia, Russia hoax, once again, if you do not have the 635 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:53,600 facts on your side, you simply try to beat the messenger, and 636 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,200 one of the ways you do it is slander them and libel them by 637 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,500 mentioning, some sort of evil bogeyman, and for the left, 638 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:03,900 Russia is the Boogeyman. And that's what they continue to 639 00:33:03,900 --> 00:33:06,200 do. Alexander Hamilton said, Thomas 640 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600 Jefferson and his supporters were more Frenchman than 641 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,200 Americans. This was the ongoing debate. 642 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,000 That was happening at that time. In and vehement opposition to 643 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,400 the laws said, democracy cannot survive in a country where power 644 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:22,300 is given to people who suspicions, maybe the evidence 645 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:26,500 that is Jefferson was, was one of those wonderful Minds that 646 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:31,800 continues to give gifts to us, whose suspicions, maybe the 647 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:37,100 evidence such a, such a tight statement of of indictment there 648 00:33:37,100 --> 00:33:39,600 in this case. And interestingly enough, we're 649 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,600 going to hear from Gerry Connolly and second here at 650 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:45,100 Gerry Connolly Apparently, understand a lot of things. 651 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,300 He doesn't even know how to pronounce these names. 652 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,500 And then his colleague was a guy named Goldman. 653 00:33:49,500 --> 00:33:51,400 I can't remember what Goldman's first name is, but he comes out 654 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:55,400 of comes out of New York and he's asking Taibbi, if he 655 00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:57,200 believed in the indictments that came out of the molar 656 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,500 investigations. And Taibbi rightly says, 657 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,300 something to the effect of, you know, they're just indictments, 658 00:34:02,300 --> 00:34:05,500 they're just allocations with with probable cause behind them, 659 00:34:05,500 --> 00:34:07,700 but they're not proven and he said, so, you don't believe the 660 00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:09,300 indictment and it's like, you don't know what the word 661 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:11,400 indictment means, in our legal process. 662 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,300 These are people that are not Serious. 663 00:34:13,500 --> 00:34:16,199 And they can't be taken seriously because of it. 664 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,699 So anyway, so we're going to move through Jefferson's ideas, 665 00:34:20,699 --> 00:34:22,699 team, still ring true today. This is against how you be 666 00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:25,800 speaking in a free Society. We don't mandate truth. 667 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,800 We arrived at it through discussion and debate. 668 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,400 This is that old-school liberal peace and this is why I like 669 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,600 him. Once again, we don't have to 670 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,800 agree on the starting point. We may end up at the same place 671 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:39,400 if we both are open to sharing ideas which when he and I have 672 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:44,100 spoken, we have been any groups that claim to They claim the 673 00:34:44,100 --> 00:34:47,500 confidence to decide fact and fiction, especially in the name 674 00:34:47,500 --> 00:34:50,400 of protecting democracy is always itself. 675 00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:53,900 The threat to democracy. This is why Aunty disinformation 676 00:34:53,900 --> 00:34:56,699 campaigns don't work. He mentions his experience as a 677 00:34:56,699 --> 00:34:59,500 journalist and knows that the experts are often initially 678 00:34:59,500 --> 00:35:01,700 wrong. And sometimes, they even lie. 679 00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:06,500 In fact, when Elite opinion is too much in sync, this itself 680 00:35:06,500 --> 00:35:09,500 can and should be a red flag. He goes on to talk about the 681 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:11,900 covid, LaBrie Theory, some of the other things like the the 682 00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:16,200 actual speech was it's sad that it was truncated but he's a 683 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,100 First Amendment believer. He believes in the American 684 00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,800 people's right to know and and and move information around. 685 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Once again, somebody that I respect pretty heavily and I 686 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,500 respect him simply because he's an honest operator he does 687 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:33,600 things that make sense. Now let's transition to a not 688 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,000 honest operator Gerry Connolly, I just want you to know the kind 689 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:37,500 of the characters that you're out there. 690 00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:39,000 Again we're going to attack the messenger. 691 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:43,100 This is a this is the former Congressman that I had. 692 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,800 Representing me in Virginia. I went to a gun control meeting 693 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,200 that he hosted it was called a town hall. 694 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,900 It was for mother's demanding action. 695 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:55,100 No further information about what that action is their 696 00:35:55,100 --> 00:36:00,400 anti-gun group and they were all a bunch of sort of Foolish 697 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,700 liberal women wearing the same t-shirt congratulating 698 00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:07,300 themselves on their activism with no knowledge about 699 00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,600 Firearms. Had no business making gun 700 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,300 policy and then Gerry Connolly who in this clip is wearing a 701 00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,900 scarf on top of his suit for some reason. 702 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:19,100 Nobody knows why let you listen to him for a second from 703 00:36:19,100 --> 00:36:21,600 Virginia, mr. Connolly thank you, mr. 704 00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Chairman I don't know what to say. 705 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,200 Last one fellow Americans. So he's wearing a scarf. 706 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,200 We're elected officials his white hair and a stupid 707 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,700 mustache. The truth would try to 708 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:41,700 participate in the process at getting it. 709 00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:47,400 The truth, mr. TV of you have said that this 710 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,400 isn't really a matter of right or left. 711 00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:56,100 That there are lots of different ideological colorations involved 712 00:36:56,100 --> 00:36:58,300 in the Twitter policy was that Roughly. 713 00:36:58,300 --> 00:37:00,000 Correct? Yes. 714 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,300 And mr. Schoenberg. 715 00:37:01,300 --> 00:37:03,100 You would agree with that. Yes. 716 00:37:03,500 --> 00:37:09,800 So when you release information, Have You released any 717 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,900 information of, for example, right wing elements, or the 718 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,800 Trump, White House attempting to moderate content at 20? 719 00:37:18,100 --> 00:37:21,400 Yes. No, not the Trump, White House 720 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,500 proceed although I did report initially in the first router 721 00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:29,100 files that Trump White House had made and requests and have been 722 00:37:29,100 --> 00:37:32,700 honored. This just saw her Okay. 723 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,600 So he just said that there was some write the problem with this 724 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,200 is that the right was not getting censorship or asking for 725 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,500 censorship at near the rate that the left was. 726 00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:44,700 And so Matt has mentioned that he went looking for it and it 727 00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:48,100 wasn't there, this is not good enough for Gerry Connolly who 728 00:37:48,100 --> 00:37:51,400 can't pronounce names correctly. And so he goes on and here's 729 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,700 that there's evidence but the evidence is not significant and 730 00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:57,200 now he's going to go on and talk about something in pop culture, 731 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:58,500 which has nothing to do with anything. 732 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,300 And once again, he can't pronounce a name. 733 00:38:00,500 --> 00:38:01,700 So he's talking about Christy Teegan. 734 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,500 Egan, and he's going to butcher that because he's just like, 735 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,900 kind of a foolish old man. That doesn't understand how 736 00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,500 things work in the internet on the internet. 737 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,100 Where is the internet? I could just imagine these 738 00:38:13,100 --> 00:38:16,300 people having these discussions, this other like woman. 739 00:38:16,300 --> 00:38:18,500 Like I said, who's trying to, like, sort out, who these 740 00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:21,200 journalists are she refers to them as a threesome, which is 741 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,600 quite funny made for a moment for me on Jesse Watters last 742 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,500 night and you've just got this. They're not serious people once 743 00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:29,500 again, they're going to just try to impugn and they're going to 744 00:38:29,500 --> 00:38:32,600 attack The Messengers as though they are some sort of Xanax, 745 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,800 when, in fact, they're Democrats, which they mentioned 746 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,100 on later. I do not find that, you haven't 747 00:38:38,100 --> 00:38:40,300 found it. So we had a hearing the other 748 00:38:40,300 --> 00:38:43,400 day on Twitter and we had four Witnesses. 749 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:46,400 Three for the majority one for the minority and all for 750 00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,400 testified under oath. They had never received a 751 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:54,300 request for Content moderation or take them by the Biden white 752 00:38:54,300 --> 00:38:58,700 house, but they did from Donald Trump's White House. 753 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:03,800 Specifically the those witnesses that they had were gone like 754 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,400 relatively recently. Lee. 755 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,200 So they may not have been involved in that or they're 756 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,700 Liars, which is more likely, because the types of people that 757 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:15,700 they were, there's no, you know, if you watched people like 758 00:39:15,700 --> 00:39:19,300 you'll Roth, they were on the hook and there's also no 759 00:39:19,300 --> 00:39:21,700 consequences for lying to Congress unless you're in the 760 00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:23,800 wrong party. So anyway I can only handle so 761 00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,800 much a Gerry Connolly but I was going to show you the let's get 762 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000 a piece where actually Taibbi is talking back to him because it's 763 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:34,100 more interesting. After this video, and of course 764 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,900 we're going to get ads. So I'll push over here, we will, 765 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,700 we'll move on to another little topic. 766 00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,300 There's only so much of this I can take, but I watched hours 767 00:39:44,300 --> 00:39:47,100 and hours of this so you don't have to and the takeaway is non 768 00:39:47,100 --> 00:39:49,600 serious, people asking non serious questions and then I 769 00:39:49,607 --> 00:39:51,500 can't even say that the Republicans were doing a great 770 00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:54,800 job, some of them went in and went on soliloquies, talking 771 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,600 about covid misinformation, disinformation censorship and, 772 00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,700 you know, you have witnesses in front of you. 773 00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,600 But Let me, let me lean into that just for a moment. 774 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,200 The reason why these weaponization committee hearings 775 00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:11,200 are not serious to me is because you don't have people that know 776 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,000 how to ask questions. You have these performances 777 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,500 going on, but there are two types of witnesses that you 778 00:40:16,500 --> 00:40:20,000 should essentially be seeing one of them would be known as a 779 00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:25,700 either, a victim witness or simply a subject-matter witness 780 00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:29,000 in which case you ask them questions and you get to what it 781 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:30,500 is. That they know you find out what 782 00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,100 their opinions, their bye. Biases and so on, you get 783 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,000 information from them that you should know a little bit about 784 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,600 and then you go and try to enrich yourself with it and the 785 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200 other one is a subject interview and the subject interview is 786 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,200 what people would. Also know as an interrogation, 787 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,900 it doesn't have to start off as an as an interrogation, it can 788 00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:52,000 move to interrogation but a subject interview is laying out 789 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,800 the case for who this person is and why they may be guilty. 790 00:40:55,700 --> 00:40:58,200 Were they in the right place? To the know the right things? 791 00:40:58,200 --> 00:40:59,500 Do they do? Certain things that may have 792 00:40:59,500 --> 00:41:01,300 been on the wrong side of whatever it is that you're 793 00:41:01,300 --> 00:41:03,700 investigating and rather than treat people. 794 00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:06,900 In this way what we have instead is this sort of like silliness 795 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,200 this, this absolute silliness of theater and trying to confirm my 796 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,200 own biases like none of them are interested in uncovering the 797 00:41:14,207 --> 00:41:16,000 truth and that's why they're not serious about it. 798 00:41:16,300 --> 00:41:18,600 So it's unfortunate. I'm going to go to a piece of 799 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:19,100 daily. Why her? 800 00:41:19,100 --> 00:41:20,700 This is my Pivot to FBI malfeasance. 801 00:41:20,700 --> 00:41:23,900 As always, you know, we save a little bit of time every day for 802 00:41:23,900 --> 00:41:25,400 this sort of thing. And I want you to be aware of 803 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,300 This one is particularly troubling to me because I'm a 804 00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:31,500 702 abolitionist. I don't think that we should 805 00:41:31,500 --> 00:41:37,900 have fisa 702 and apparently the Republicans who are working on, 806 00:41:37,900 --> 00:41:39,400 it are also concerned about this. 807 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,300 This says, the FBI may have used fisa to spy on the congressman, 808 00:41:42,300 --> 00:41:46,800 overseeing fisa and the renewal is a top legislative priority 809 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,100 for Biden while. I wonder why this I'm going to 810 00:41:50,107 --> 00:41:51,400 read a little bit of it and then I'm going to give some 811 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:52,800 commentary on it for a second here. 812 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,900 So the FBI may have abused the foreign intelligence 813 00:41:54,900 --> 00:41:57,400 surveillance Act Also known as fisa to spy on the very 814 00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,500 Congressman tasked with overseeing fisa, according to 815 00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:01,700 revelations in the hearing on Thursday. 816 00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,200 This just happened yesterday, representative Darin lahood. 817 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:06,700 He's a republican out of Illinois. 818 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:10,000 A member of the House, permanent select committee on intelligence 819 00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:13,900 said at a Committee hearing that, he has reason to believe 820 00:42:13,900 --> 00:42:18,300 that he himself is the unnamed congressman who a recently 821 00:42:18,300 --> 00:42:21,300 Declassified report from the office of the Director of 822 00:42:21,300 --> 00:42:25,700 National Intelligence, also known as odni admitted that FBI 823 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,500 Has wrongfully conducted a search on the hood is leading 824 00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,000 the working group tasked, with oversight and renewal of section 825 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,500 702 of fisa reported by Fox News. 826 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:38,700 And last month, Jill Biden asked the Congress to reauthorize the 827 00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:41,900 fisa position, calling it a top legislative priority. 828 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,900 Here's Darin lahood saying, I want to make it clear that the 829 00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:47,900 FBI's inappropriate querying of a duly elected member of 830 00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:50,900 Congress is egregious and a violation that not only degrades 831 00:42:50,900 --> 00:42:53,000 the trust and feyza. I think that's accurate but is 832 00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:57,000 also viewed. But is also viewed as a threat 833 00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,200 to the separation of powers and he believes that he was in fact 834 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,200 the person on there this is a Luke Rose Yak writing for daily 835 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:09,500 wire. 702, fisa is a really quirky animal, it is a section 836 00:43:09,500 --> 00:43:13,600 that involves very little oversight within the bureau 837 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:17,200 itself, the the ease and the ability of accessing fisa. 838 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,300 Basically, it has to check certain number of boxes and then 839 00:43:19,300 --> 00:43:21,700 you have to articulate that, it's only a couple of paragraphs 840 00:43:21,900 --> 00:43:23,900 to be able to get approval. And what you need to show is 841 00:43:23,900 --> 00:43:25,800 that there is an agent of a foreign power. 842 00:43:25,900 --> 00:43:29,900 This could be, you know, a traditional intelligence officer 843 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,500 or a spy of some kind, this could be someone that we call a 844 00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,300 co-op D. This would be someone working on 845 00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:36,700 behalf of an intelligence officer in this space. 846 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,800 And it could be someone who has some sort of nebulous government 847 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,800 connection, to one of the threat countries or something, but they 848 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,200 cannot be in the United States. The fisa 702 section Provisions, 849 00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,200 they require that the person not be in the US. 850 00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:55,300 And that's a big difference from the stronger. 851 00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:57,600 Fisa that people would be used to in the FBI. 852 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,400 When you get the fisa warrants, they're known as full sizes or 853 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,700 7025 zip. The 702 version of it is much 854 00:44:03,700 --> 00:44:04,900 weaker. It has to actually be 855 00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:07,500 deactivated at the collection must be discontinued. 856 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,900 If that individual that you have nominated for 702 coverage, 857 00:44:12,100 --> 00:44:15,000 makes it into the United States. So fill in the blanks by 858 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,600 fill-in-the-blank country comes the United States lands down at 859 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:20,000 Dulles airport or LAX, or take your pick. 860 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,000 When that happens, the minute that you are aware. 861 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,700 That the person is there you have to turn off collection and 862 00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,700 you can't reactivate it until you're confirmed that that 863 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:28,900 person has left the United States. 864 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:34,100 So not collectible on US citizens or people who are 865 00:44:34,100 --> 00:44:37,200 actually in the u.s. they were all given a much higher degree 866 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,600 of privacy. Here's the weird part, the main 867 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,800 usage 4702 coverage in my experience was not just getting 868 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:50,000 background information on who these, you know, feyza, 869 00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:53,800 nominated, coverage individuals. Were but who they're talking to? 870 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,400 That's the whole purpose. You intelligence, you always 871 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,800 want to spin your network wider and get more information. 872 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,800 And the things that are of most interest are looking for 873 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,900 Americans that are in there who are talking to this, you know, 874 00:45:04,900 --> 00:45:08,000 foreign intelligence asset. The problem is is that's 875 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,100 expressly illegal under federal law under what's called reverse 876 00:45:11,100 --> 00:45:13,200 targeting. So when they're talking about 877 00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,800 FBI members querying the database, they can literally go 878 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,900 in. Look at 7:02 coverage and 702 879 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:25,700 May cover any number of All that are, you know, that our Assets 880 00:45:25,700 --> 00:45:28,400 in this way that are nominated and you can search it, you know, 881 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,800 by name and my email address and by other selectors as we call 882 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:34,500 them phone numbers, Social Security, you know this kind of 883 00:45:34,508 --> 00:45:36,300 thing. You can search through this big 884 00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:40,500 database of all the 702 coverage and look for anything you want. 885 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,800 You know, you can look for certain Chinese characters, you 886 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,100 can look for certain words that are written in English. 887 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,000 You can look for, you know, things like classified or top 888 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:50,500 secret or whatever you want to do. 889 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:54,300 And if If that materials in there, these are mostly emails. 890 00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:56,200 They might be text messages and things like that. 891 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,900 Sometimes you get Skype messages and other weird stuff in there. 892 00:45:58,900 --> 00:46:00,700 Some of the collection grabs. It's basically that anything, 893 00:46:00,700 --> 00:46:05,800 that an American Service must turn over on these, you know, of 894 00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,600 this, this database, they turn over anything. 895 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,800 That touches American Wires, so phone calls and things like that 896 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,800 as well. But when you come to the actual 897 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,700 7025, it's a little bit more limited than a full scope. 898 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:18,500 Fisa that has all the, you know, possibly microphones and cameras 899 00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:21,400 and stuff in houses and all the other kind of tools that they 900 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,300 can use. So if you searched for a 901 00:46:25,308 --> 00:46:27,900 congressman's name, that's reversed targeting like that's 902 00:46:27,900 --> 00:46:30,200 illegal in and of itself to be able to do that. 903 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,300 And that's not to say that it doesn't happen because I'm 904 00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:34,100 fairly confident. That's one of the few ways that 905 00:46:34,100 --> 00:46:36,700 you can actually use fisa. If you're in that space, just 906 00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:40,400 really troubling stuff, not the way that we should be dealing 907 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,000 with it but we are dealing with an FBI, that's not particularly 908 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,200 honest. And I've got a one and a half 909 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:46,700 minute clip here that I'm going to show you. 910 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:51,200 This is this is at least two phonic from New York talking to 911 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,700 Christopher Ray this again. Also happened yesterday, this is 912 00:46:53,700 --> 00:46:55,700 a hearing that I skipped listening to Christopher. 913 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:57,600 Ray is like listening to an ex-girlfriend. 914 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,300 Who is lying about you to other people here. 915 00:47:00,300 --> 00:47:05,400 He is talking to us, to phonic and not saying anything of 916 00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,100 value. Do you believe the hunter Biden? 917 00:47:08,100 --> 00:47:10,000 Laptop? Story is disinformation. 918 00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:13,600 Well I want to be careful about there is an ongoing 919 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,700 investigation that is relevant to that, so I have to be careful 920 00:47:16,700 --> 00:47:18,000 of what I can share on that here. 921 00:47:18,900 --> 00:47:19,900 Do you believe the hundred Biden? 922 00:47:19,900 --> 00:47:23,000 Laptop story is disinformation, I don't think there's anything I 923 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,600 can share on that and open setting. 924 00:47:25,300 --> 00:47:27,500 Were you aware that? The FBI Personnel were in 925 00:47:27,500 --> 00:47:30,800 contact with Twitter regarding the hunter Biden, laptop story. 926 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,600 I don't believe. FBI Personnel were in contact 927 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:38,000 with Twitter about the 100 lap, top story, specifically. 928 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,900 I think they were people in contact with Twitter about 929 00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:44,900 Russian. Disinformation efforts Of which 930 00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:48,000 hundred Biden laptop story was included according to the FBI? 931 00:47:48,700 --> 00:47:50,900 Well, I think, I don't know exactly what you're looking at, 932 00:47:50,900 --> 00:47:59,500 but I'm just gonna deny facts. Were you aware that the FBI had 933 00:47:59,500 --> 00:48:02,200 Hunter Biden's laptop since December of 2019? 934 00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:07,000 I can't speak to exactly when we had a laptop available. 935 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:10,700 There is a there is as you as you know there is an ongoing 936 00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:14,600 investigation run by the US attorney out of Delaware from 937 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:18,000 the prior Administration that we continue to work very closely 938 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,400 with and we had an ongoing investigation as well. 939 00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,300 And our Baltimore Field office is working, very hard with that 940 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,200 us attorney. And I expect them to pursue that 941 00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:30,500 case as far as it tastes stonewalling director, Ray, the 942 00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:34,400 American people deserve answers and this is Acceptable. 943 00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,900 So, he doesn't believe that. And that's really the issue 944 00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:39,900 there. He doesn't actually believe 945 00:48:39,900 --> 00:48:41,700 that. The American people do believe 946 00:48:41,900 --> 00:48:44,200 do deserve answers because he doesn't think he works for the 947 00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:45,900 American people. He mentioned that the other day, 948 00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:48,400 that 50% of the American people think that they're the enemy, 949 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,900 and he doesn't work for them, he's interested in his 950 00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:54,600 recruiting numbers and he believes that he works for state 951 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:56,200 and local Partners or some other nonsense. 952 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,800 Go back to the Bret Baier thing, you can hear what he has to say. 953 00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,300 But, you know, this is not a man that cares about honesty. 954 00:49:01,300 --> 00:49:03,200 That's why he goes like this when they ask a question because 955 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,300 blink blink. Link 15 blinks and then he just 956 00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:09,600 says something nonsensical like this an ongoing investigation. 957 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:12,400 We can't speak about that because a national security we 958 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,200 take these concerns very seriously. 959 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,000 I don't really know the information that you're asking 960 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,400 about right now. Like what is your purpose, why 961 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:19,600 are you there testifying when, you know nothing. 962 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:23,900 And he's deliberately not knowing things, he doesn't know 963 00:49:23,900 --> 00:49:27,500 things on purpose and he also likes to obfuscate. 964 00:49:27,500 --> 00:49:29,500 He's just he's not an honest operator. 965 00:49:29,500 --> 00:49:33,200 It's really frustrating to watch this kind of stuff but so be it. 966 00:49:33,300 --> 00:49:35,500 This is the Guy that we have in the White House. 967 00:49:35,500 --> 00:49:37,600 And unfortunately, this is who Trump sort of saddled the 968 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,600 American people with. He was one of those, probably 969 00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:42,700 one of the worst Personnel decisions. 970 00:49:42,900 --> 00:49:44,600 I've had a couple of conversations about it. 971 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:48,100 I had one actually yesterday with Kimberly Guilfoyle on her 972 00:49:48,100 --> 00:49:51,900 Rumble show and she would agree, I think as well, that it was 973 00:49:51,900 --> 00:49:53,200 just one of those really, really awful. 974 00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,800 Trump decisions. You know, they happened and a 975 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,100 lot of them were around personnel. 976 00:49:57,100 --> 00:49:59,600 And we're stuck with that one. In particular, I'm going to 977 00:49:59,607 --> 00:50:03,700 Pivot again to FBI malfeasance. This time is something that 978 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,300 Julie Kelly, who writes for American greatness and does a 979 00:50:06,308 --> 00:50:08,500 great job. She has a very active Twitter 980 00:50:08,500 --> 00:50:09,900 account. If you don't follow that, it's 981 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:14,400 Julie underscore Kelly the number two and you can find her 982 00:50:14,900 --> 00:50:17,600 reporting on a lot of January, 6 stuff. 983 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,300 And then particular, she's been following this case with the 984 00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:21,900 proud boys. The so-called seditious 985 00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:24,700 conspiracy case. I went to CNN to try to pull 986 00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:26,300 this up because I wanted to see how they covered it. 987 00:50:26,300 --> 00:50:27,500 This is again. Just yet. 988 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:30,500 Another example, of attack the messenger, try to obfuscate 989 00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:33,500 what's actually going on. So, what we said here is 990 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,300 Prosecutors. This is the, the article here 991 00:50:36,300 --> 00:50:39,800 from CNN politics prosecutors. Mistakenly turnover, potentially 992 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:44,300 FBI classified material to Proud Boys on trial. 993 00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:48,100 The article here is written by Holmes lie, brand and Casey 994 00:50:48,100 --> 00:50:52,200 Gannon CNN by line, just read over here. 995 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,300 Boom. The, the federal prosecutors 996 00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:56,500 accidentally turned over documents that may have included 997 00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,600 classified information. Two members of The far-right 998 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,400 Proud boys. Apparently they're far right now 999 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,900 who are on trial for seditious conspiracy including more than 1000 00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:07,400 1,000 internal messages between FBI agents. 1001 00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,900 The judge basically gave the FBI more time to review these things 1002 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,500 and said that the defense can hold on to them. 1003 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,500 The issue came to light during the cross-examination of FBI 1004 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:16,400 agent. Nicole Miller on Wednesday. 1005 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,700 When attorney Nicholas Smith who's representing the proud 1006 00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:22,400 boys? Remember Ethan nordine revealed 1007 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,600 messages between the FBI agents, including Miller discussing the 1008 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,500 investigation into the group. Their actions related to January 1009 00:51:30,500 --> 00:51:31,600 6 2021. Okay. 1010 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:35,600 That's the story that CNN's gonna throw out there, right? 1011 00:51:36,700 --> 00:51:38,700 And then we get down to the meat of this actual Story. 1012 00:51:38,900 --> 00:51:42,900 One of the messages revealed in the court discussed 1013 00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:45,100 Communications between one of The Proud boys who's now on 1014 00:51:45,100 --> 00:51:46,700 trial and his attorney at the time. 1015 00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:49,300 According to Smith, it's unclear how the FBI had access to 1016 00:51:49,300 --> 00:51:51,900 Communications and whether the communications are protected by 1017 00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:54,400 attorney-client privilege. No, it's actually not it's 1018 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,600 actually not unclear. This is the reason why we go to 1019 00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,300 other actual independent. Pendant reporters. 1020 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,700 So Tracy beans here. No to think that this is an 1021 00:52:02,700 --> 00:52:04,900 insane thing that the judge should actually be throwing this 1022 00:52:04,900 --> 00:52:07,400 sort of thing out the breaking information coming out of Julie, 1023 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,100 Kelly's account. So there's Tracy beans. 1024 00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:12,200 As usual at, this is how the stuff always gets double hit 1025 00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:14,100 into my feed. The drama in the proud boys 1026 00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:17,600 trial is that the FBI agent was lying on the stand according to 1027 00:52:17,900 --> 00:52:22,900 Julie Kelly's statements. And they mentioned very clearly 1028 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:26,000 that they had access to jail, phone calls between the attorney 1029 00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:32,200 and the client Now these should not even be available to an FBI 1030 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:33,700 agent. They should not be available in 1031 00:52:33,700 --> 00:52:35,800 the jail cause when you go down on him but for whatever reason 1032 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,900 they have them, I'm going to read some of the stuff that came 1033 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:40,800 out of the transcripts of the trial reporting here. 1034 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,500 It says, today government witness special agent, Nicole 1035 00:52:43,500 --> 00:52:45,700 Miller was cross-examined and she testified that she 1036 00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:50,000 understood her legal Duty under the jencks ACT Jew, produced to 1037 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:51,700 the United States Attorney written statements related to 1038 00:52:51,707 --> 00:52:55,500 the subject matter of Our Testimony that's 18, USC 3501 1039 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:58,800 Miller acknowledged among those statements were message. 1040 00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:01,800 Has she sent in the FBI's link messaging system where Bureau 1041 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,100 employees, communicate with each other link is like skyper, 1042 00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:08,100 instant messenger. It also has some some video 1043 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,600 capabilities, it has audio capabilities, it's usually I 1044 00:53:11,607 --> 00:53:13,700 think there's a link on the unclassified side. 1045 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,500 There's also one on the red side which is known as the secret 1046 00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,200 terminals. People who are familiar with the 1047 00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,300 military will call its internet. And so that allows you to have 1048 00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:25,400 discussions about classified materials in a way that's 1049 00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,900 appropriate because it's over the the proper Network. 1050 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:31,300 It's The default setting for almost all things in the bureau. 1051 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:35,300 So, an incredible amount of unclassified conversations, take 1052 00:53:35,300 --> 00:53:39,000 place on the link server. But in this case, she basically 1053 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:45,400 had 25 rows of excel messages that she supposedly had with her 1054 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:49,100 Co cases and that was supposed to be all the messages that were 1055 00:53:49,100 --> 00:53:51,600 relevant to the case, there's no question that that's probably 1056 00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,900 BS, they turned over a thousand. What she did was she hid files 1057 00:53:56,100 --> 00:53:58,500 and only turned over you know, she turned over basically 1058 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:02,800 Something like 1,000 or 1,200 lines of documents of which a 1059 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,100 thousand of them were hidden 25 were revealed and when they 1060 00:54:06,100 --> 00:54:10,700 uncovered it they got all of the information, all 1000 lines that 1061 00:54:10,700 --> 00:54:14,200 we're in there and the FBI basically said, we haven't 1062 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,100 searched those for classified material because it was on a 1063 00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:17,800 classified Network. It could have classified 1064 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,400 material technically possible. But generally not normal, most 1065 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,300 people do not cut and paste classified information in and if 1066 00:54:24,300 --> 00:54:25,800 they do it would be portion mark. 1067 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,600 It would be very easy to run through that. 1068 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,900 You could probably do it in like five or Minutes, you just look 1069 00:54:29,900 --> 00:54:32,600 through for the portion marking and anything that's not portion 1070 00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:34,700 of marked. It's actually already out of 1071 00:54:34,707 --> 00:54:37,100 policy. It's actually already probably a 1072 00:54:37,100 --> 00:54:40,500 spill in that case because it's not marked as classified despite 1073 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:43,800 the fact that it is and it'd be very difficult for the bureau to 1074 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,900 go through and decide that those things are the case. 1075 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:52,100 But anyway, the real issue here is that we're talking about a an 1076 00:54:52,100 --> 00:54:54,000 FBI agent. Basically, she was claiming that 1077 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,100 she didn't you know that she did some things that she gave all 1078 00:54:57,100 --> 00:54:58,600 the information that she didn't necessarily give. 1079 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,400 There's some other information here about Daya confidential 1080 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,900 human Source one of them that's really of note here. 1081 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:06,200 We'll pull this thing up if you can't see it as small print but 1082 00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,800 it says the agents request to special agent Miller. 1083 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,500 This is another FBI agent on the link system was to go into a CHS 1084 00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,400 informant report. There's a specific name for what 1085 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:18,800 the reports are called that Miller had just put together and 1086 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,200 it out that the agent was in fact present. 1087 00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:23,400 Now, here's the thing. This is why it's such a problem. 1088 00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,600 It's possible that that agent wasn't actually present that it 1089 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,800 was an actual error in writing it. 1090 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:32,800 But the other possibility is that the agent was there, and 1091 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,400 that they're lying, and it seems to be evidence of that. 1092 00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:38,200 So, these are just without context. 1093 00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:42,400 This is why you do your job up front, and the idea that the FBI 1094 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:45,100 gets to decide, which text messages are in and out of 1095 00:55:45,100 --> 00:55:47,000 bounds, that there's no third party Arbiter. 1096 00:55:47,100 --> 00:55:49,900 There's nobody within the bureau that actually like overseas 1097 00:55:49,900 --> 00:55:51,400 these things. They just you pick your 1098 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,600 Discovery and you send it over. I always had kind of a 1099 00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,200 uncomfortable feeling about this, my buddy told me, he got a 1100 00:55:57,400 --> 00:55:58,800 spreadsheet that had all of this text message. 1101 00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:00,100 Yes. And he was supposed to you know 1102 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:02,100 click off which ones were related to his case. 1103 00:56:02,900 --> 00:56:04,600 It seems like somebody else should probably be doing that 1104 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,400 too. You know in case there's just 1105 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,400 something in there or you know, double-check the work but that's 1106 00:56:09,400 --> 00:56:12,400 not what happens. Discovery is kind of an 1107 00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,900 afterthought in a lot of ways. It's not like that primary 1108 00:56:14,900 --> 00:56:16,500 thought. And that's what happens when you 1109 00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:21,500 have a group that basically is interested in the outcomes. 1110 00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,200 A lot of times they're just the process of it is kind of a it's 1111 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,300 more of a pain than it is. Sort of a moment of Pride to be 1112 00:56:27,308 --> 00:56:30,600 able to do the right thing. I'm sure I'm guilty of that too 1113 00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,500 and I've sent over Discovery. It's not like my fun favorite 1114 00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,900 thing to do. It's kind of a pain to export it 1115 00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:37,600 and we don't have good systems for it in the bureau. 1116 00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:41,300 So you know you're clicking on something and it's going to you 1117 00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:43,600 know create an archive file of all these things and then you 1118 00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,000 just burn it off onto a CD but even our CD burners were trash, 1119 00:56:47,100 --> 00:56:50,500 just not good technology. The last thing I was going to do 1120 00:56:50,500 --> 00:56:51,700 is just to kind of a quick cover up. 1121 00:56:51,700 --> 00:56:53,500 This is one of the weirdest things we talked about the 1122 00:56:53,500 --> 00:56:55,400 story, the other day of the four Americans that were down in 1123 00:56:55,408 --> 00:56:58,100 Mexico, two of whom were kidnapped into were killed. 1124 00:56:58,500 --> 00:57:00,200 This is is not related to the messenger. 1125 00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:02,500 This is just sort of current events and is just one of those 1126 00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:04,200 weird little moments in the world. 1127 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,600 So I wanted to bring it up the the gulf cartel, who was 1128 00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,200 apparently the group responsible for what happened to these 1129 00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:14,500 Americans issued a very bizarre apology for what happened. 1130 00:57:14,500 --> 00:57:19,000 And there was a letter written in Spanish, it's translated. 1131 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,800 I'm going to read a piece of it just because we're going to 1132 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:22,900 continue to follow up. I'm really curious whether this 1133 00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,200 was mistaken identity or these people are involved in 1134 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,300 something, they shouldn't Bend. And this letter doesn't tell us, 1135 00:57:28,308 --> 00:57:31,500 one thing or the other. But it does say that the quote, 1136 00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:36,100 the gulf cartel Grupo escorpion has strongly condemns, the 1137 00:57:36,100 --> 00:57:39,900 identity, the events of Friday, March 3rd, which was a week ago 1138 00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:45,600 in which unfortunately, an innocent working mother died. 1139 00:57:45,900 --> 00:57:51,000 And for American citizens, were kidnapped, two of which died for 1140 00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,100 this reason, we have decided to hand over all of those involved 1141 00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:58,200 and directly responsible for the events who were at all times, 1142 00:57:58,300 --> 00:58:00,100 acted. Either their own determination 1143 00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:04,500 and in discipline, and against the rules, which the seed CDG 1144 00:58:04,500 --> 00:58:06,800 has always operated have no idea. 1145 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,400 But the, that's your honor among Thieves, they have a code and 1146 00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:12,600 apparently these people violated, or they did what they 1147 00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:15,400 were told, and they're going to be sacrificed because they don't 1148 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:19,100 want the American Military to come stomping in and deal with 1149 00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:21,900 them as a domestic terrorists or as a foreign terrorist 1150 00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:24,400 organization and fto. They do want to be designated on 1151 00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,000 that totally bizarre weird times. 1152 00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:28,800 We'll have to keep watching that story. 1153 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,500 You said I had two possibilities and we'll see what they can end 1154 00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:34,600 up being one of the one of which will probably be true. 1155 00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:38,300 All that being said, I think that's all we can fit in for 1156 00:58:38,300 --> 00:58:40,900 today. And I do want to say ladies and 1157 00:58:40,900 --> 00:58:43,200 gentlemen, that you had been listening to the Kyle serif and 1158 00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,200 show and please consider subscribing. 1159 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,000 Hit the Subscribe button on rumble on Apple on Spotify. 1160 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:50,900 On I heart radio or wherever it is that you listen to podcasts 1161 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,500 and are listening to this show. 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