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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower and 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth because this
program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Seraphin. 
Well hello my friends welcome to

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the Kyle Seraphin show for 
today, Monday, December the 

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29th. 
Just a little statement up 

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front, God is good is the 5th 
day of Christmas. 

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And we have for you 5 gold rings
in the form of proof of life for

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Steve Baker. 
He's going to be joining me 

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shortly on the program and we 
are going to, we're going to get

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into all of it. 
So what I'd ask for you, if 

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you're just listening right now 
and you're been worried about 

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Steve Baker, if you've been 
praying for Steve Baker, I want 

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to thank you for that. 
And I also ask you for your 

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patience today because he is not
100% and he's coming on here to 

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give you guys proof of life in 
an audio format only because I'm

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guessing he looks like hospital 
food warmed over. 

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And as that being the case, 
we're going to have him shortly 

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kind of in his own words. 
We're going to take our time. 

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We're going to go through the 
January 6th pipe bomber filings 

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which were given to us yesterday
by our DOJ and a very 

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interesting response by the pipe
bomber defense case. 

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They've added some new attorneys
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this is a really good, it's a 
really good time to check raise 

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the government. 
The government asked for more 

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time in their own case. 
I think it is. 

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It goes along with exactly what 
we've been sharing for quite a 

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while in this, which is that the
complaint was thin and they 

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don't have this case and it is 
going to be really devastating 

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to their to what they're doing. 
So we're going to make some some

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interesting prognostications I 
think and I think you guys are 

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going to really enjoy that. 
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All right, folks, I don't want 
to set it up too much and I do 

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want to take our time and be 
respectful of my buddy Steve 

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Baker appearing by audio only. 
Mr. Baker, good morning to you. 

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Hey, good morning, Kyle. 
You sound like crap buddy. 

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Yeah, they had crap jam down my 
throat, you know, half the week 

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last week, but we came through. 
We're going to do OK. 

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I love it. 
Do you want to give people a 

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quick update? 
The last they heard we were live

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and I mentioned you were in the 
hospital. 

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A lot of people were praying for
you. 

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Whatever you'd like to share, 
it's not my medical information,

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it's yours. 
So I'll let you tell them what 

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they want. 
Yeah, I don't, I don't know how 

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much detail people want on this,
but there, there seems to have 

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been a little bit of curiosity 
on the online I I forget what 

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day it is now. 
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Monday the 29th. 
So at this exact time last week,

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I was, you know, laid out on a 
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They they have, they have they 
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in Raleigh, They have a brand 
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I mean this, you know, it's 
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I mean, it's super nice. 
It's super new, It's super high 

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tech. 
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the lead doctors just a couple 
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And I said, I said, you realize 
that this diet that you guys are

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putting me on leans too heavily 
on the old food pyramid, you 

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know, the USDA food pyramid. 
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you know, it's that food pyramid
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New Palace that you guys are 
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And. 
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I said, come on, you know, I'm 
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She goes, yeah, you're right, 
you're right. 

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I said, 'cause you all started 
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ago. 
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realize it, but cardiac medicine
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studied things in all of 
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heart disease and going back 50s
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And so you had a bunch of like 
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that were, that were Keeling 
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So they studied it at a really 
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There's a ton of money into it, 
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know an awful lot about origin 
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actual medicine behind it and 
and how it works and why the 

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heart works the way it does. 
And you never had any heart 

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problems if if if my memory 
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Yeah, no, we don't have a 
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don't have any background in 
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So I, you know, I have obviously
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for the last week and catching 
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You know what all of this means 
for me, especially going forward

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in the future. 
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half ago, just only a week and a
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DCI was up and down Capitol 
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I was in and out of the city 
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stuff. 
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it's a a bit of an obsession of 
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understatement. 
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is, is taking up most of my 
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bandwidth. 
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very, you know, very 
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We were doing, we were doing 
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We were going to, you know, the 
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Cole's neighborhood, canvassing 
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neighbors, interviewing store 
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for years. 
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going out and measuring, you 
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size panels and brick panels, 
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brick in, in walkways and 
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front of the DNC, in, in the 
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To compare it to the photography
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to acquire, which by the way, 
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be coming out with something 
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and about the work that I was 
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And and then of course, the guys
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scenes and I, you know, I don't 
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efforts because they have while 
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they were able to keep this, 
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course Johanneman and of course 
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Are you hearing that? 
Sorry. 

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You're a popular guy right now. 
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My gosh, I mean, and of course 
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know, the cardio people calling 
me every 5 minutes. 

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Steve, they're calling you to 
tell you to take it easy. 

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Lay off the work, don't do any 
call in programs and start 

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getting excited about the things
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before the hospital. 
You know, I'm, I'm excited that 

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they're interested in my ongoing
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time they've called me this 
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So, you know, we, we have been 
putting together primarily right

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now a defense of Brian Cole, 
this accused bomber. 

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Look, I'm, I'm just going to 
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I mean, I, I, I've seen enough, 
I have interviewed enough 

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people. 
It's not him. 

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Why, why they decided to move 
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I can only describe that in one 
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And that is an actual phrase 
given to me by an FBI agent who 

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told me and I quote, they went 
to their Patsy file. 

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How crazy is that? 
And, and, and, and we're going 

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to, we're going to look, I'm 
really impressed with the new 

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attorney he has, with the work 
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And it looks like they are going
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real defense here. 
I was afraid with the previous 

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legal team that they were going 
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towards a plea deal and that 
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were working for the government 
itself and, and this was just 

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going to go away and be swept 
under the rug. 

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They would, you know, be able to
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and claim a victory here. 
They got the pipe bomber and, 

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you know, and make it all go 
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But they don't. 
They don't have the pipe bomber.

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Steve, do you want to give a 
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stuff that you, I know you 
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owner and people who saw him 
every day. 

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I mean, you gave the the 30,000 
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You don't believe he did it? 
I don't believe he did it. 

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I think that's fair. 
We're going to give reasons for 

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that and we're going to help 
kind of run through the, the 

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government filing, which I was 
shared with you last night. 

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And, and folks, just so you're 
awareness, I don't think Steve 

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is in the position or in the, 
the health spot to be sitting 

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there and reading through 30 
pages of dense legalese. 

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That being said, we'll go 
through it today and we're going

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to go through it nice and slowly
so that people can grasp it. 

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And I think that it is really 
damning to the, to the 

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government's case. 
The government's own filing is 

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actually the worst thing. 
And there's a follow up that I 

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think actually indicates that as
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But even before all this went 
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had a, an arrest on December the
4th, Brian Cole Junior, someone 

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that no one had ever heard of. 
I remember, I don't know if you 

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saw this, but I did an interview
and someone said, what was your 

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first thought? 
My first thought was what? 

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Who because he wasn't on any of 
our radar. 

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Is that fair to say for the 
Blazes investigation as well? 

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Yeah, not on our radar at all. 
I mean, he certainly was 

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probably one of those 186 phone 
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had interest in that was 
released by Congressman 

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Loudermilk, Congressman Massey's
report here earlier this year. 

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I would imagine that they were. 
He was on one of those 186, 

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which by the way, on a Tuesday 
evening, January 5th, only 186 

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phone numbers shows you how thin
the streets were occupied at 

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that time of night. 
That is a great point that I 

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hadn't even considered. 
It's going to play into what we 

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discussed in just a minute, but 
186 total phone numbers that 

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pinged in the vicinity that that
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when they went out and did an 
exhaustive grab of all the 

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towers and and people that were 
in the area during the time that

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needed to be great, great point 
there. 

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So hold on to that people put 
that in your in your mindset. 

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We're talking about a very small
subset. 

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That means deserted streets. 
If you've seen the videos of the

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pipe bomber, there's not a lot 
of foot traffic. 

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We saw a dog Walker and not a 
lot else passing this person as 

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they moved around. 
Not a ton of cars even from the 

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static shots driving around 
because it was a very. 

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It was a really weird time in 
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It was cold, it was dark. 
It was after the election of 

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2020 and right on the eve of a 
day that apparently was. 

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Yeah, It was in the middle of 
COVID. 

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So people were wearing masks and
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And there were signs up 
everywhere that were saying, you

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know, stay home, stop the 
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nonsense. 
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And DC was really strange, which
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and I went. 
I want nothing to do with it. 

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Let's give kind of a summary. 
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over this is the 711 shop owner.
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neighborhood. 
You want to talk about that, 

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that meeting? 
Yeah, I'll, I'll talk about that

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a little bit. 
I don't again, I don't want to 

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take away, you know, Joe was up 
all night working on this story.

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I couldn't sleep last night 
after the after the the filings 

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came out. 
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yesterday. 
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I was so angry. 
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get to sleep last night. 
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steal the Thunder from what we 
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let's just put it this way, 
people, Including the 711 store 

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owner at the entrance to the 
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and his family live is a place 
that for years he had gone into.

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And this is in their words, 
every day. 

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Now, I don't know that it was 
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hundreds of times over a period 
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that I interviewed told me that 
there's, I mean, just that he 

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said there's no way. 
He said as soon as he heard that

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this kid was arrested and he saw
the images of this kid who he 

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has seen in his store 100 times 
and the awkwardness of this kid 

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and the way this kid walks and 
his inability to, you know, to 

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deal socially in a normal 
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I mean, even to the point where 
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years, Cole may have said 3 
words to him. 

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And he said every day that he 
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counter and he would get his 
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every time. 
He would get his 2 Coca Colas 

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and a slice of pizza. 
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autistic, you know, 5 minutes to
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that every single time this 
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you know, thank you to the kid 
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And he would just turn around. 
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always wearing his headphones. 
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that environment that he liked 
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And, and so we ended up talking 
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was very, very effusive in his 
willingness to to speak. 

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And, and but this is, you know, 
this is as we've seen in other, 

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you know, the other mainstream 
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whether it's Washington Post or 
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stories on this and have 
interviewed neighbors. 

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They've all said the same thing,
they said. 

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The New York Post did the same 
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Yeah, yeah, this, this kid is 
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in the videos of the the hooded 
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You walked around that 
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walking shape. 
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about what that neighborhood's 
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not notice just based on the 
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the feeling kind of the the vibe
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I mean, it's a, it's a very, 
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middle class suburban DC 
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People live well there. 
It's a safe neighborhood. 

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It's the kind of place where a 
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every day, a couple times a day 
and be comfortable doing that. 

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And it's, it's ironically the 
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all populated by federal 
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probably hundreds of law 
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enforcement of all type. 
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because you see their government
vehicles parked in their 

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driveways and you see them 
coming to and from work. 

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You see, the most ironic thing I
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Service bomb dog, you know, 
specialist coming home. 

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I mean the, the, the, the male 
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backs his, his SUV and takes the
dog out. 

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And then the 5 minutes later his
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whatever she is, she comes up 
identical vehicle. 

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She backs her SUV, takes her dog
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You know, they're walking their 
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yard and wearing their, you 
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bomb squad uniforms. 
You can't make that up. 

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I mean, how far? 
Away is that from that? 

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How far away is that from the 
Kohl's residence that you saw 

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that happen? 
Block and 1/2. 

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So what like 8 houses or 
something? 

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Because these are pretty well 
spread out. 

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Yeah, yeah, 810 houses. 
Just for people to understand. 

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And then I, I, I've said it 
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time. 
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100 yards behind where the Cole 
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That is, that is directly to the
to the West of where their 

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cul-de-sac ends. 
I nearly bought a house there a 

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couple years ago. 
My wife and I went and went 

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through it more than once with a
realtor and it's a nice place to

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live. 
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Woodbridge in general is kind of
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suburbs of Washington, DC go in 
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But that particular little 
enclave, it's very idyllic. 

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I mean, it's, it's woods, it's 
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Nice neighbors. 
As you said, a lot of feds A. 

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Lot of law enforcement. 
A lot of law enforcement, you 

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know, the, the, the thing and 
I'll, I'll get back into 

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answering a little bit about my,
my, my little run in with the 

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advanced cardiology science, 
we'll just call it that. 

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I, you know, I was doing a lot 
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And walking is a thing for me. 
I, I enjoy it. 

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I mean, when I'm in DCI, love to
walk. 

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I, you know, I, I will walk for,
you know, blocks and blocks and 

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miles and miles up and down 
Capitol Hill. 

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Doesn't, you know, doesn't phase
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Except it was really phasing me 
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really beginning to notice signs
that something was wrong with me

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out of the, you know, out of the
ordinary. 

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I was getting extraordinarily 
winded and even even in his 

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neighborhood, I was noticing 
that, but I went out to I know, 

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I know everybody or most 
everybody has seen the some of 

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the video from the traffic 
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And we're going to we're going 
to be releasing that, I think in

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full with this story. 
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things that, you know, I was 
doing out there was going out 

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and doing measurements in the 
street and having to avoid the 

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traffic at the time, measuring 
sidewalk panels then. 

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And the reason for that, it was 
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exact foot measurements because 
we've had we've had what the FBI

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told us the bombers shoe size 
is. 

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We've had what the FBI is saying
his shoe size is. 

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And we, you know, we want to 
know ourselves. 

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So this is this is an analysis 
that we were doing. 

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Yeah, just just so people can 
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accident where Brian Cole junior
in was it in his Nissan Sentra? 

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Yes. 
Rear-ended somebody, What was 

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the road? 
What was the road that they were

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on? 
Is it a famous road or like a 

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big? 
Road or yeah, it's a big, big 

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major thoroughfare and and of 
course you know my my brain is a

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little addled right now but I'm 
going to I'm. 

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Going to give you a pass on that
one, Mr. Baker. 

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But it is. 
But it is it is quite. 

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It is quite the thoroughfare and
very busy Rd. 

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So Cole rear-ended some, you 
know, some random person and you

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guys we we saw scripts, I think 
news put it out. 

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You guys did a FOIA request or 
freedom information, whatever it

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is it Full disclosure kind of 
thing from from law enforcement.

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You got how long is it about 40 
minutes about? 

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48 minutes. 
OK, so you've got just shy of an

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hour worth of footage of him 
wandering around. 

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We've shown that. 
I showed it last week, I want to

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say maybe the week before. 
So if you're familiar with the 

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the video footage, we did it on 
Alex Jones program as well, 

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Infowars folks, you saw maybe 15
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that of Mr. Cole standing there.
And even in that short clip, you

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can see he seems to have kind of
a tick where he's kind of 

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ticking his head kind of 
instinctively while he's filling

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out a form. 
You have the law enforcement 

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officer talking. 
He's very flat and affect. 

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You guys have the long form 
version where where do you 

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imagine that you'll put that 
that video out for people that 

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want to sit through and? 
I think, I think we'll be 

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releasing that on the Blaze 
hopefully tomorrow, OK. 

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And we should be able to and 
that'll, and also if we do all 

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of the edits that we have made 
and analyze we, we did, you 

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know, where we removed, we 
stabilized some of the video 

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because we're talking about body
Cam, you know, so sometimes the 

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cop is walking and he's walking 
against Brian Cole walking. 

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And so you get a lot of bouncing
around. 

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So we've been able to do some of
that, you know, stabilization so

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that it it we can see a more 
fluid walk from Brian cold then 

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then with the, you know, the 
body Cam itself self bouncing 

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around. 
Got it. 

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So we we've done we've done 
quite a bit of work like that. 

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And then, and when I say we, I 
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Armitage really picked up the 
the ball in this with me down 

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last week. 
And then also we're, we're 

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getting, you know, we're getting
some expert help as well. 

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And I know we'll get into this 
if, if I can, if I can hang on 

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long enough. 
But you know, we're, we're 

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bringing in our own, you know, 
experts on this cell tower, the 

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cell tower pangs at the FBI have
claimed they, they've got these 

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hits on him and then we're 
bringing in as well. 

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I mean, look, one thing I 
haven't even you know, one thing

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I haven't even revealed yet is 
that you might want to put this 

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on your list is, you know, I the
week before, last week or the 

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week before I was in DC doing 
all these, you know, 

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measurements and canvassing is I
was in another state and I got 

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to sit down for five full hours 
with the FB is person of 

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interest #2 and POI #2 means the
bomber POI. 

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So POI number one, just to bring
bring everything into clarity 

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here, remind everyone POI one is
the hoodie person, the unknown 

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hoodie person. 
These are the PO is that were 

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identified that the FBI had 
folks and if you're if you're 

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familiar with the report that 
I've shared, there's an I'll put

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it again. 
The Loudermilk report went out 

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in January of 2025 S the 
beginning of this year, and it 

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identified basically three 
persons of interest. 

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One was the hoodie bomber. 
The third was the person that my

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surveillance team was assigned 
watch a door in Virginia, which 

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just happened to be next door to
somebody that the blaze had had 

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looked into. 
And then you're just pointing 

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out that you got a chance to sit
down with person of interest two

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who has, so far, as far as I'm 
aware, no major media outlet has

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identified nor have they spent 
any time with. 

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Correct. 
I don't know if anybody who has 

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interviewed him in the last five
years other than. 

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Not. 
Not even Julie Kelly. 

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Shock even. 
Not even Betty Crocker herself. 

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The as as far as I know, no one 
other than the two FBI agents 

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who interviewed him twice the 
week following you being pulled 

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from the doorstep there in Falls
Church, VA. 

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And POI #3, of course, is the 
gentleman that Julie Kelly did 

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interview and he was the guy who
owned the Metro card that was 

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famously used on the 5th and 
then also again on the 6th. 

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And it was POI too, who was 
staying with him at the time 

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that used that card. 
And, and so I had the, again, 

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there's so many, we, we, we've 
had so much help and so much 

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assistance on this. 
It's, it would be absolutely 

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shameful for me or even my own, 
you know, closest team to take 

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all the credit for this. 
But we've had, we've had 

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volunteer help, we've had paid 
help. 

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Well, we've had expert help. 
And I actually had and flew in a

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retired FBI agent that met me 
for this particular interview. 

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And it was, it was kind of an 
interesting circumstance in that

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we, we had, we had an address on
the guy. 

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We had phone numbers on the guy,
but he spends a lot of time 

444
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:18,560
traveling out of the country. 
And so our goal was, was to find

445
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:24,560
someone in his own inner circle 
that we could meet, become 

446
00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:28,240
friendly with and then have them
introduce us to them. 

447
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,880
And that was, you know, that was
just kind of the game plan And 

448
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:33,480
believe it or not, it worked 
out. 

449
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,160
We we met someone that he was 
very close to at 9:00 one 

450
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:43,320
morning. 
This was two, 2 1/2 weeks ago. 

451
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:50,520
Two weeks ago and we met him at 
9:00 in the morning and then by 

452
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:56,600
2:00 that afternoon, I'm sitting
in the living room of a couple 

453
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:01,360
and the guy comes over to their 
house, POI #2, and we interview 

454
00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:03,880
him for three hours. 
And then I spent two more hours 

455
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,080
with him in a coffee shop the 
next day doing follow up 

456
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,960
questions with him and learning 
more about this circumstance and

457
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,800
why he was there, why he was 
hanging out in the alleys, why 

458
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:18,040
he was hanging out in the RNC 
alley, why he got off the metro 

459
00:26:18,360 --> 00:26:21,920
changed, you know, kind of, I 
don't want to say disguise. 

460
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,560
He put on warmer weather gear, 
let's put it that way, and then 

461
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,560
immediately beelined it to the 
RNC alley where he began to take

462
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:33,880
pictures in the alleyway. 
And then for some reason, after 

463
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040
wandering around DC all day and 
attending some of the 1st 

464
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,320
Amendment protest events that 
were happening on the 5th, just 

465
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,480
before he went back to the metro
and disappeared in the train 

466
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:48,200
back to Falls Church, he ducked 
into that alley again and then 

467
00:26:48,360 --> 00:26:53,080
placed an empty water bottle. 
And this is according to the FBI

468
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:58,560
placed an empty water bottle in 
the exact trash container which 

469
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,320
was next to where the bomb was 
found 17 hours later. 

470
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,320
Let's do a highline summary if 
you don't mind. 

471
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,680
Mr. Baker, after talking to this
guy 5:00-ish hours, did you feel

472
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:14,120
like case closed, this guy 
should be should be no further 

473
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:18,680
questions and and no further 
scrutiny or were did you leave 

474
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:21,400
with some questions? 
Definitely left with some 

475
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,640
questions, but he is either a 
genuinely sincere man who 

476
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,600
through one of the greatest 
coincidences in human history, 

477
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:41,000
ended up where he ended up, and 
I, I and Kyle, I'm, I'm sorry 

478
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,720
you can't see my face, right? 
Well, no, I'm not. 

479
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,080
I'm glad nobody can see it right
now. 

480
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,360
But this was a series of 
coincidences stacked upon 

481
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:55,000
themselves, which make it an 
absolutely astronomical number 

482
00:27:55,520 --> 00:28:00,000
that takes him out of any 
connection to this event. 

483
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:07,840
But he's either a victim of that
of those improbabilities, or 

484
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,840
he's the greatest liar of all 
time. 

485
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,600
And there's more that's 
potentially more to that story. 

486
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,600
All right, I'm going to give you
a couple seconds to take a 

487
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,000
breath. 
I want to thank one of our 

488
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480
sponsors and then we're going to
get into this document. 

489
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Folks, if you're just joining us
right now, I've got Steve Baker 

490
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
coming in through audio only 
because he just got out of the 

491
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,560
hospital. 
Steve Baker is an investigative 

492
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,680
journalist that works for The 
Blaze and he is a former J Sixer

493
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:32,240
himself. 
He was doing journalistic 

494
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:36,120
activities on January 6th, has a
bit of a passion project running

495
00:28:36,120 --> 00:28:38,640
down this particular story. 
The most terroristic thing that 

496
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,960
happened on January 6th, the 
dropping of pipe bombs. 

497
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,520
And the FB is interesting naming
of a subject after he and his 

498
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,280
team came up with somebody else 
they thought was more probable 

499
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:49,840
for some reason. 
We're supposed to just believe 

500
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,760
that all the things that we 
heard for the last, I don't 

501
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:55,360
know, 4 1/2, five years didn't 
happen. 

502
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,640
We're supposed to believe that 
none of that stuff was going on.

503
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,040
We're supposed to believe that 
there was in fact no 

504
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,680
governmental involvement, 
including the statements that 

505
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,440
were made by the former 
podcaster and now current the 

506
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720
and soon to be former deputy 
director of the FBI and also 

507
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,920
Cash Patel statements that were 
to the contrary. 

508
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,120
We're supposed to ignore all of 
that and all of the weird 

509
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,320
circumstances that happened that
seemed to point towards at least

510
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,160
government awareness of what was
going on. 

511
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,400
Even if it was a big 
misunderstanding or a mistake or

512
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,560
a some sort of a training 
accident or a poorly messaged 

513
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,920
exercise, which I don't believe 
is possible on that day, that 

514
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,040
that is stuff we're supposed to 
just put away. 

515
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,560
And I think that when you hear 
this document, which we're going

516
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,000
to go through, which was filed 
yesterday, and then the follow 

517
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,240
up document, which was filed by 
the defense is going to really, 

518
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,800
really RIP some of the stuff 
apart. 

519
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:44,600
I don't think the government's 
case is even strong enough to 

520
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,240
stand in front of a judge. 
And I think they know that as 

521
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,080
well. 
All right, before we get there, 

522
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523
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524
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This is something that I know my
my friend Mr. Baker would have 

525
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,640
appreciated having in his hotel 
room if you had a bit more 

526
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,360
planning before he went in with 
his cardiac event. 

527
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Sometimes it's nice to keep your
phones off. 

528
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529
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brokers, cyber criminals, 
whoever may be fighting for a 

530
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piece of your digital footprint.
If you are a little bit cagey as

531
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I am, you may want to make sure 
that they can't just take your 

532
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data. 
And that's what they do. 

533
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,080
They don't have to ask. 
Silent exists because there's a 

534
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reason for a little bit of 
silence. 

535
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:22,160
What I find too is that I get a 
lot of Peace of Mind. 

536
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,920
Yesterday I spent 3 hours 
running one of their sling bags.

537
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,400
It's their new concealed carry 
sling bag. 

538
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,200
And I put my phone in there and 
my my little digital watch 

539
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,880
didn't go beeping and I just 
spent time with my kids running 

540
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,760
around in the park and on 
bicycles. 

541
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,400
And it is actually creating more
peace in my life. 

542
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,760
That's one of the pillars of 
health that they actually they 

543
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,880
do in addition to kind of 
keeping you out of the hands of 

544
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:43,040
all these sort of government 
agencies, tech, you know, 

545
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,480
brokers, data brokers, et 
cetera. 

546
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:46,760
This is the same kind of 
technology that special 

547
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,240
operations team use worldwide. 
These guys have government 

548
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contracts for different 
government agencies and 

549
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:53,560
military. 
If you guys want to block all of

550
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,360
of the RF signals coming out and
that involves things like 

551
00:30:56,360 --> 00:31:00,480
cellular and Wi-Fi and Bluetooth
and GPS and RFID and near field 

552
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,000
communication, all the different
wireless things that put you on 

553
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:04,600
the grid. 
You guys can get off the grid by

554
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:06,280
putting your phone in a silent 
Faraday case. 

555
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
This is the one that we use here
at the show on a regular basis 

556
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:10,720
because otherwise my phone will 
be blowing up like the 

557
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,400
healthcare workers calling Mr. 
Steve Baker. 

558
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,000
Guys, protect your family, 
protect your freedom, protect 

559
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:16,720
your mental health. 
Sometimes it's nice to just 

560
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,760
disconnect and this is a really 
easy way to do it. 

561
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:21,520
You don't even realize that that
thing is calling to you like a 

562
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,040
siren song. 
Even if it's you're sitting in 

563
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,160
your pocket and it's not 
buzzing. 

564
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,880
At some point it might and then 
it's going to pull you out of 

565
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,400
whatever you were doing. 
So go completely silent, get 

566
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invisible to the outside world. 
Check out these these different 

567
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568
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It's the one on the screen. 
I put it on there. 

569
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,560
They don't ask me to advertise 
that one, but it's the one I use

570
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571
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So you guys are not going to be 
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572
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They're not the cheapest by by 
any means, but they are the best

573
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,680
because they actually work. 
All the cheap ones that I found 

574
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:47,440
failed. 
That was my experience. 

575
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,160
All right, we're going to go 
back to Steve Baker here. 

576
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,000
Mr. Baker, Are you ready to go 
through this document which was 

577
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,400
dumped on us yesterday? 
Yeah, let's, let's talk about 

578
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,280
this. 
This document kept me up all 

579
00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:59,280
night last night. 
And that's not a good thing 

580
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,640
either, right? 
Now you need to be getting your 

581
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,480
rest, my friend. 
All right, first, let's start 

582
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,880
off with the headlines. 
This is coming from John Solomon

583
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,680
at just the news and agency that
lies to you in their very name, 

584
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,960
as I was told by a funny 
reporter. 

585
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,440
J6 pipe bomb subject says he 
planted the devices because 

586
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,200
quote, I really don't like 
either party. 

587
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,240
That highline is actually one of
the funniest ways to do a 

588
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,560
headline in my opinion because 
we know that the original 

589
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,360
targets of those pipe bombs do 
not appear to have been 

590
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,800
political parties. 
This seems to be a false 

591
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,480
confession and I think that this
document is riddled with sort of

592
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,560
self defeating arguments. 
But this is the one that John 

593
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,800
Solomon decided to call out. 
I'm not going to. 

594
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,200
I'm just going to show you the 
headline folks. 

595
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,680
I will link these in the show 
description or in the the 

596
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,480
comments so you can read them. 
I want to show you ABC also 

597
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,080
covering this with their little 
advertisement here, says alleged

598
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,360
J6 pipe bomber said he wasn't 
targeting the congressional 

599
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,160
certification of Biden's 
victory. 

600
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:51,040
That's what the DOJ claims in 
this particular thing. 

601
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,280
So that's their take away from 
it. 

602
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,000
Also accurate. 
And here's NBC's coverage. 

603
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,720
The DC pipe bomber suspect 
disliked both political parties 

604
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,880
and felt violence would be 
justified, prosecutors say. 

605
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,520
So the interesting thing is, is 
that all of our news outlets 

606
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:07,480
from left to right and the 
propaganda pieces over at at 

607
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,200
just the news are all honing in 
on this idea that he wanted to 

608
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,240
go after both of them because he
thought the political parties 

609
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,320
were the issue. 
There's a real big hole in that 

610
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,240
argument. 
I think Mr. Baker, which is the 

611
00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,760
original place where the pipe 
bomber stopped, we're supposed 

612
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,960
to ignore apparently that that 
he was stopping outside of a 

613
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,920
boarding house and also the 
Congressional Black Caucus 

614
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,720
Institute. 
Yeah, let's talk about that. 

615
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,160
Does he? 
Does this black high functioning

616
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,000
autistic kid also hate the 
Congressional Black Caucus? 

617
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,680
That's right. 
That's right. 

618
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,120
Yeah. 
And then also we're supposed to 

619
00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:43,520
ignore the fact that the United 
States Capitol Police counter 

620
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:45,800
surveillance teams went directly
to the Bush outside that 

621
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:49,920
Congressional Black Caucus 
Institute with no particular 

622
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,080
reason why? 
No particular reason why, but I 

623
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:57,880
can also reveal today, this is 
another bit of a scoop for you 

624
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,800
and your listeners, Kyle, is 
that those two counter 

625
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,480
surveillance officers have been 
recently reinterviewed. 

626
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,360
I'm not at liberty yet to give 
all of the context of everything

627
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,400
that happened and was said in 
those interviews. 

628
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,560
But I will tell you that the 
investigator who interviewed 

629
00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:21,239
them said that it was, how do I 
put this it? 

630
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:26,880
It was the most rehearsed and 
actually, as he said, overacted 

631
00:34:27,639 --> 00:34:29,800
testimony he's ever participated
in. 

632
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Outstanding. 
Well, that's good. 

633
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,159
I I'd hate for them to to fall 
short of that. 

634
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,800
Our expectations are is that 
this is a sort of a governmental

635
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,440
type cover up and if that's the 
case, then we need government 

636
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,159
cover up actors. 
So here we go. 

637
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:43,520
Let's get into today's filing. 
I've got it up here. 

638
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
This happened yesterday. 
It was filed. 

639
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,480
I don't know if it says a time 
on here, so forgive me on that 

640
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
folks, but it was filed 
yesterday, December the 28th, 

641
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,040
which was the 4th day of 
Christmas. 

642
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,920
Today, the 5th day of Christmas,
which is everybody's favorite 

643
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,639
part of the song, the five gold 
rings. 

644
00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,080
If you're a long time listener 
to this program, you can go back

645
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:00,880
and find I used to play this 
Eddie Izzard clip. 

646
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,440
Steve, where, where, where? 
Eddie Izzard, you know, you know

647
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,440
the British comedian. 
Oh yeah, I remember Eddie. 

648
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Where? 
Well. 

649
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,520
He, he used to, he did his bit 
and and I think he did it in 

650
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,840
dress to kill coming out of a 
San Francisco Bay Area. 

651
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,760
And he would, he said people 
would run in from other parts of

652
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,360
the room or other parts of the 
house just to scream the five 

653
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,160
gold rings part because no one 
knew the other bits. 

654
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,360
So no one knew anything beyond 
he didn't know about the turtle 

655
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:24,680
doves. 
You don't know about the the 

656
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,480
maid's milking, but you always 
knew the five. 

657
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:29,040
Gold. 
Ring. 

658
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,200
So it kind of makes me laugh. 
So this is our 5 gold rings 

659
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,760
folks. the United States of 
America versus Brian J. 

660
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:36,960
Cole Junior. 
There's the case number and he 

661
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,960
is the defendant in the the 
District Court of the District 

662
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,800
of Columbia. 
And I'm going to read you a 

663
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,920
little bits of it. 
This is being filed by the 

664
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,640
United States Attorney for the 
District of Columbia. 

665
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:50,760
That's Jeanine Pirro submits 
this memorandum in the support 

666
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,840
of oral motion for defendant 
Brian Cole junior to be detained

667
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,600
pretrial. 
Now, there are two things that 

668
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,920
are pending and they are pending
for tomorrow. 

669
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,480
One of them is this pretrial 
detention hearing. 

670
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,720
But the second piece of it, 
which I guess the government 

671
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,960
tried to move backwards, is the 
preliminary hearing. 

672
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:14,160
And Steve, we've talked about 
this quite a bit as far as the J

673
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,480
Sixers went, but the FBI doesn't
normally charge people by 

674
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880
complaint. 
They chose to charge Brian Cole 

675
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,440
by complaint. 
And so now they face a 

676
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,040
preliminary hearing where they 
have to show probable cause in 

677
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,400
front of the judge because 
nobody evaluated outside of the 

678
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,960
the Magistrate Judge and, and 
the, the affidavit that was 

679
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,360
filed, which we've evaluated 
here on this program to be quite

680
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,120
thin, I think was my word. 
And I'm going to continue using 

681
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,040
it. 
Well, you know, I was, I was 

682
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,200
even subjected to a grand jury 
investigation. 

683
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,160
I, you know, it was. 
Gosh, it was. 

684
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,640
But that actually makes sense 
because they had a long time. 

685
00:36:51,720 --> 00:36:53,120
They announced they were going 
to come at you. 

686
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,600
January 6th happened a long time
prior. 

687
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,480
You knew that at some point in 
time you were going to have to, 

688
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,840
you know, face whatever it was 
they were going to put at you. 

689
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,000
And so they went to a grand jury
and they, they indicted you. 

690
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,960
That was the whole point. 
That's what the FBI normally 

691
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,520
does in this case for folks 
awareness. 

692
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,000
Five years, No indictment. 
Charged by complaint. 

693
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,440
It's it's not the way the FBI 
does business as a regular 

694
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,680
course of action. 
They actually, you know, what 

695
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,840
ended up happening with me is 
because I was only charged with 

696
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,160
the four basic misdemeanors, is 
that apparently the grand jury 

697
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,600
didn't see what the FBI was 
bringing to them and DOJ was 

698
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:30,120
bringing to them because they 
wanted to nail me with a felony.

699
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:34,680
And grand juries are not seated 
for misdemeanor offenses, only 

700
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,080
felony offenses. 
And so even the even the fact 

701
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,240
that they took it to the grand 
jury and I had to, you know, 

702
00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:44,320
turn over a bunch of my work in 
order for them to look at that, 

703
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:51,000
they apparently could not even 
even even the the previous Biden

704
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,160
DOGDOJFBI couldn't convince that
grand jury that I was worthy of 

705
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,040
a felony charge. 
I think they're going to face 

706
00:37:58,040 --> 00:37:59,760
similar problems here. 
Let's read from the government's

707
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,560
motion. 
It says upon a finding of 

708
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,040
probable cause that the 
defendant violated. 

709
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:11,360
This is Section 844 I I think 
that's 18 USC 844. 

710
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:17,000
I The bail statute creates a 
rebuttable presumption that no 

711
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,680
conditions will reasonably 
assure the community safety if 

712
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,640
the defendant is released 
pending pretrial. 

713
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,800
So they're looking to have him 
held, and they say that he 

714
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,120
cannot rebut this presumption 
considering the extreme and 

715
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,920
profoundly serious nature of his
crimes, the overwhelming 

716
00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,560
evidence of his guilt and the 
years he spent deceiving those 

717
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,800
around him to avoid 
accountability, the intolerable 

718
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,520
risk he will again resort to 
violence to express his 

719
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,000
frustration with the world 
around him. 

720
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:43,480
Pretty interesting claims. 
Let's do a little bit on the 

721
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,600
background, folks. 
So they actually sort of copied 

722
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,880
and pasted a chunk of the 
background from the complaint 

723
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,800
affidavit. 
This says that on December the 

724
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,040
4th, he was arrested. 
That was of this year. 

725
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,240
The complaint was unsealed 
charging him with violations of 

726
00:38:55,240 --> 00:38:58,600
18 USC 844 D and I Delta and 
India. 

727
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,600
Those are the transportation of 
the explosive device and the 

728
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:05,400
attempt to use an explosive 
device to destroy a building. 

729
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,800
I'm paraphrasing a little bit. 
The defendant made his initial 

730
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,880
appearance where they just 
basically read him the charges 

731
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,000
and said, you know, we've read 
you the charges, but he didn't 

732
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:15,800
enter a plea as I understand it.
And then he was held pending a 

733
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,840
detention hearing and waiting 
for counsel. 

734
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,520
Now, This is why this, this 
document is so interesting. 

735
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:25,120
This is the first time we're 
getting a look at the actual 

736
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,840
confession, or at least the, 
the, the elements that were 

737
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,400
built into the confession and 
what the, what the government is

738
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,840
going to use in their case. 
And so here they are, they say 

739
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,400
on January the 5th, 2021, the 
charges against the defendant 

740
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,880
arise from his manufacturing, 
transport, transporting and 

741
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,480
planting of two pipe bombs in 
downtown Washington, DC on 

742
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:47,560
January 5th, 2021. 
We always kind of say the J6 

743
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,800
pipe bomber, but in reality, 
this was stuff that was supposed

744
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,960
that was planted on the night of
the 5th starting at about 

745
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,080
7:30-ish. 
Is that about right, Steve? 

746
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,360
And going to about 818? 
Those are the kind of the 

747
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,320
critical moments that people 
need to be aware of that 

748
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,600
timeline. 
Yeah, it's 730 fours. 

749
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,840
When the hoodie bomber first 
appeared on surveillance cameras

750
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:17,640
and then disappeared at 8:18, 
there was a 8 minute gap from 

751
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:24,680
exactly 8 O clock to 8 O 8 where
the bomber also went off camera.

752
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:30,160
Where even the FBI supports One 
of our long, long time theories 

753
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,360
is that the bomber only carried 
one bomb at a time and then 

754
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:40,440
managed to either hook up with 
an accomplice or get back to his

755
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:45,600
or her car near or at Folger 
Park during that 8 minute gap. 

756
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,200
And after placing the DNC pipe 
bomb, then loaded what would 

757
00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,400
then become the RNC or the 
Capitol Hill Club bomb. 

758
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:55,800
All right, so they mentioned 
that the two bombs are placed at

759
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:59,320
approximately 7:54 PM for the 
DNC, so about 20 minutes worth 

760
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:02,320
of wandering on camera before 
the 1st placement on that 

761
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,800
includes the the stall and delay
at the Bush that we've shown you

762
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,440
guys ample footage of where the 
Capitol Police officers looked 

763
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,560
the next day but found nothing 
only to find the bombs a few 

764
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,480
minutes later. 
And then he also planted the 

765
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,520
second bomb at approximately 816
per this complaint or this this 

766
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,400
filing rather. 
The two locations are about .2 

767
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,160
miles apart and in between them 
are two parks, one of them being

768
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,720
Folger Park. 
That's going to come into play 

769
00:41:23,720 --> 00:41:25,400
in just minute. 
So we're going to go on. 

770
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:29,280
They identified the defendant 
driving his 2017 Nissan Sentra 

771
00:41:29,720 --> 00:41:33,440
entering, exiting the Capital 
South Street exit of Interstate 

772
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,200
395. 
There's a NS route of 395 and 

773
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,280
Capitol St. 
S Capitol Street kind of runs 

774
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,160
along there. 
Passed a license plate reader 

775
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,960
that recorded his vehicle and 
tag information at 7:10 PM. 

776
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,760
This is on January the 5th. 
Approximately 24 minutes later 

777
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,960
at 7:34, we have the first video
footage. 

778
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,680
What that tells us, at least it 
tells me from what they're 

779
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,320
filing here, they don't have 
other video footage, which would

780
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:59,840
include parking the vehicle, the
location of the vehicle and the 

781
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:03,560
sort of, and exiting the vehicle
wearing the clothes that we 

782
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,680
would expect, which I think 
would be a lot closer to, I 

783
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,280
think would be more than 
circumstantial. 

784
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,400
This is kind of what they're, 
the argument they have here is 

785
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,400
they're basing it on his 
confession of that's where he 

786
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:16,360
was. 
And I'm, I'm very skeptical of 

787
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:17,280
that. 
I'm going to keep reading on 

788
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:18,800
here, Steve, while you kind of 
take a couple of breaths. 

789
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,560
Video captured the the defendant
was holding a backpack and held 

790
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,640
in his hand was wearing 
distinctive Nike Air Max Speed 

791
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:28,920
turf shoes and a face mask and a
hood that obscured his face. 

792
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:31,160
All right, so they put a filing 
in of the person. 

793
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,960
This is person of interest, one 
that they allege is Brian Cole 

794
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,400
Junior. 
I'm going to allege is not Brian

795
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:39,720
Cole Junior. 
And one of the fun things is, is

796
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:42,400
that for a long time the FBI is 
fixated on these shoes. 

797
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,280
They are addressed in this for 
the first time in a way that is 

798
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,160
not satisfactory to me. 
It probably will not be to you. 

799
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,000
I'll give you guys the the read 
and then we'll give you the 

800
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,320
analysis on it as well, All 
right. 

801
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Footage shows that the defendant
who investigators from the 

802
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,880
Federal Bureau of Investigation 
based on height analysis 

803
00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,640
estimated to be 5 foot 7 inches 
tall with an error rate of ±1.1 

804
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,960
inch put on eyeglasses scanning 
the area depicted below. 

805
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,000
This is that video that we've 
also shown you. 

806
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:09,360
I've gone on info with wars with
it. 

807
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,800
I've played it here. 
This is a video that we think 

808
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,800
actually indicates that these 
are at not prescription 

809
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,040
eyeglasses but potentially 
sunglasses to obscure. 

810
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,560
And I think we fleshed this out 
pretty well, but I'll just do it

811
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,240
real quickly The, and in fact, I
may play that in just a second 

812
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,680
for if Steve needs another 
break. 

813
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,240
Essentially, there are two 
reasons that you would put on 

814
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,280
eyeglasses. 
If you put on spectacles, the 

815
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,520
way that you see Steve's picture
wearing right now, you put them 

816
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,440
on to clarify the image of 
what's going on. 

817
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,000
Your eye doesn't focus properly 
and things appear blurry if 

818
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,480
you're nearsighted, which I used
to be. 

819
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,960
So you put them on and the idea 
would be that you can see the 

820
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,200
world around you better and 
that's a safety mechanism so you

821
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,160
can identify threats and so on. 
The other reason you might put 

822
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:52,360
on darkened lenses would be to 
obscure your your visual so that

823
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,320
people can't see you. 
So 1 is so that you can perceive

824
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,160
the world better and the other 
is so that the world can 

825
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,000
perceive you less. 
And what we see in that that 

826
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,960
particular video that is on that
still is grabbed right there. 

827
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,760
And if you give me a SEC, I 
probably can go grab it. 

828
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:09,360
The the differential would be 
that you would necessarily want 

829
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,000
to make sure that you put your 
eyeglasses on clean, smudge free

830
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:14,960
and so on to be able to identify
somebody in the dark walking 

831
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:16,960
towards you. 
In this case, the the visual 

832
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,160
that we see on screen right now 
is just before somebody with a 

833
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,120
dog walks from the left side of 
the screen across to the right. 

834
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,280
And what we see instead is that 
the hooded figure takes the 

835
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,600
glasses off, cleans them once, 
puts them on and then goes to 

836
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,480
basically clean them again. 
But notices this dog Walker and 

837
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:38,240
so leaves a hand on the bridge 
or the arm of the glasses, kind 

838
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:42,040
of turns away with the with the 
glasses on and then when the dog

839
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,600
Walker leaves, pulls them off 
again and cleans them, which is 

840
00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,960
not logical behavior for someone
who wears spectacles. 

841
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,840
Steve, I'll give you a SEC to 
kind of weigh in on that if you 

842
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,200
like. 
And then I'm going to try to 

843
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:52,480
find the video so we can show 
people too. 

844
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,600
Scroll back up to the previous 
image above this one. 

845
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:58,600
Yeah, you got it. 
Let's talk about that for a 

846
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,840
moment. 
This is a little bit off topic 

847
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:04,440
of the glasses, but this will 
give you an idea of what I was 

848
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:07,000
doing last week or the week 
before a week and a half ago. 

849
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:12,040
Is you see those bricks in the 
alley behind the RNCI was we we 

850
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:18,600
found some very clean footage of
from a ring camera actually of 

851
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:23,320
the bomber so that we were able 
to get precise measure a precise

852
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:30,760
clear screenshots from the video
of the bomber's foot and shoes. 

853
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,720
And so I was actually one night.
See what night was it? 

854
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:37,480
It was, it was Friday, week and 
a half ago. 

855
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:42,880
I was in this alley after 10:00 
PM, after 10:00 PM, folks at 

856
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:47,760
night in the dark measuring with
the tape measure those bricks 

857
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,880
and actually went because 
because in the Ring camera, I 

858
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:58,640
was able to see exactly the 
backs of the apartments that we 

859
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:02,960
were that the, the, the bomber 
was shot at from the Ring 

860
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:04,480
camera. 
I was able to go to those that 

861
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,440
exact location and measure those
bricks. 

862
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:13,600
And then the one thing that I 
was brand new to me that I had 

863
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,360
never noticed. 
Now, of course, I've watched all

864
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,920
of the available footage. 
I know that most people have not

865
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,520
done that. 
They've only seen the, you know,

866
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:27,840
the 1530 seconds total that the 
FB is ever released of the, of 

867
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,680
the bomber. 
And most of that footage that 

868
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,320
they've seen of the alleged 
bomber is there at the DNC where

869
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,840
the, the frame rate has been 
horribly altered down to 1, you 

870
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,280
know, 1 frame per second. 
And so, but in this particular 

871
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:50,040
incident here, the, I believe it
was The Washington Post had been

872
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:56,320
able to secure that camera right
there before the FBI was able to

873
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:58,080
alter it. 
Interesting. 

874
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,960
Yeah. 
So we have we have a side by 

875
00:46:59,960 --> 00:47:02,920
side of this particular camera 
unaltered. 

876
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,240
We have the side by side of the 
FB is altered version of it. 

877
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:12,520
But because there is in the out 
there in the in the world the 

878
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:17,600
unaltered version, we get to 
watch this individual in a very 

879
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,480
athletic move moving around that
that corner. 

880
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:25,640
All right, so so when the when 
the bomber moves around the 

881
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:31,520
corner, this is at the exact 
moment where the placement of 

882
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,040
the bomb is determined to 
happen. 

883
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,360
The bomb is moving directly to 
that spot. 

884
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:41,720
Now, if you go back to the image
just real quickly, sure. 

885
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,240
All right, so you have if you 
look at the left shoulder, the 

886
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:49,920
the the that that would be the 
the gloved hand without the 

887
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:54,480
backpack. 
I can move over over that left 

888
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:59,560
shoulder about 40 feet to the 
left is the actual security 

889
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:06,200
booth where the security guard 
is main is housed 24 hours a day

890
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,640
outside of the RNC. 
OK. 

891
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,720
And there's a reason why that in
this particular image that I 

892
00:48:13,720 --> 00:48:18,120
didn't catch until I was there 
last Friday a week ago at after 

893
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:20,920
10:00. 
I never knew that that security 

894
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:27,640
shack, guard shack was there. 
And so the reason why the bomber

895
00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:33,000
is moving with such athletic 
determination here, unlike the 

896
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,080
rest of the night, the rest of 
the night is a very, very casual

897
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,240
stroll. 
But in this moment, it's because

898
00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:44,440
the bomber knew the bomber had 
to get around that corner and 

899
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:49,360
get out of the sight of line of 
the guard shack. 

900
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:55,400
Now interestingly, the guard 
shack, the way the where the the

901
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,120
guards computer monitor set up 
is actually facing the other 

902
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,920
direction. 
So this person already knew this

903
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,000
Kyle. 
And was just basically we're 

904
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:08,520
talking about eliminating the 
time of exposure to a potential 

905
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,160
over shoulder look kind of. 
Thing exactly what was happening

906
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:18,760
there and all of the sudden this
when I saw that last Friday in 

907
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:22,120
the evening and I saw it and 
it's like you know it's like one

908
00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:25,440
of those you know the light the 
light bulb goes out and you 

909
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:29,800
understand why the bomber was 
moving with such determination 

910
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:34,360
at this moment now we're going 
to have to be asked by the DOJ 

911
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:40,080
by the FBI to believe that this 
kid Brian Cole knew all of that 

912
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,080
in advance at. 
The very minimum had an 

913
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,040
awareness of the guard shack and
understood that there was a 

914
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,000
possibility of being seen at 
that point and therefore had to 

915
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:50,880
had to move. 
Despite the fact that anybody 

916
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,880
who's seen him and and people 
that I've talked to and you have

917
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,760
as well, you know, walking 
around the neighborhood said 

918
00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,200
that he basically lives in a 
world of his own. 

919
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,480
And this has been widely 
reported by various different 

920
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,320
news outlets left and right. 
You know, nobody with an agenda.

921
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,280
All that's troubling. 
I want to put the the loop video

922
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,480
up here. 
This is the this is the eyeglass

923
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,040
video where the DOJ is now 
alleging that this shows a set 

924
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,440
of eyeglasses and scanning of 
the area That may be what it 

925
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,080
shows. 
Steve, I've got you off, off 

926
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,280
picture here. 
So we can kind of maximize the 

927
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,520
size, but the the pipe bomber's 
moving from left to right on the

928
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:24,520
screen right now, pauses and 
then does this sort of logical 

929
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:27,800
sets down the backpack, turns 
around and then cleans glasses, 

930
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,960
which a lot of people thought 
was answering a cell phone. 

931
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,120
If you snip it just right, it 
looks like someone's looking at 

932
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,800
a phone, but cleans glasses, 
puts them back on. 

933
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:38,160
And if your glasses were not 
clean after you tried to clean 

934
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:40,040
them, would you not want to go 
back and make sure that they 

935
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,560
were clean before somebody 
walked right up on you? 

936
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:45,480
Is it, am I you'd want them off 
so you don't have the fuzz and 

937
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,680
the, and the, and the blur. 
I mean, this is just, we're, 

938
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,680
we're speculating on how people 
operate, but that's how I 

939
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,000
operate. 
I don't like having my eyes 

940
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,720
obscured by hazy glass. 
I'd rather just go with whatever

941
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,600
my native vision is and squint. 
Right, right. 

942
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,440
And I say that as a guy who was 
in the military with with, you 

943
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,000
know, the BCGS, the birth 
control glasses, which are 

944
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:05,560
horrifically bad. 
I wore them through Sears. 

945
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,680
Cool. 
Had my my vision very, very 

946
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,560
obstructed in the woods. 
And if I had to take them like 

947
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,720
between a foggy set of glasses 
that had smudges on them or no 

948
00:51:13,720 --> 00:51:16,120
glasses at all, I'll go no 
glasses at all while I clean 

949
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,160
them and find something dry. 
That was just that was my move. 

950
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,120
So again, this this kind of is 
Armitas making the speculation 

951
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,920
that this video actually shows 
something meant to obscure the 

952
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,200
face rather than clean up the 
vision of somebody who has a a 

953
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:37,120
visual impairment. 
So I went that night on that 

954
00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,960
that Friday a week and a half 
ago, I went and knocked on the 

955
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,160
guard shack. 
Oh really? 

956
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:45,520
Yeah, I knocked on the window 
and guard spun around. 

957
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:50,160
Now remember the guard is the 
guard station and his position 

958
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:54,360
with his own screen monitors are
facing away from this position 

959
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,000
where we saw the bomber moving 
around that corner. 

960
00:51:57,240 --> 00:52:00,160
Yeah. 
And, and so I knocked on the 

961
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:04,720
window and he, he opened the 
window and I, I introduced 

962
00:52:04,720 --> 00:52:06,920
myself and told him what I was 
doing out there. 

963
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
And he was got excited. 
He got out of the he came out of

964
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,960
the booth and wanted to talk. 
Turns out he is the actual guard

965
00:52:13,960 --> 00:52:17,280
that was first notified. 
He he was on duty not on the 

966
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:21,000
evening of the 5th, but he was 
on duty on the morning in the 

967
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,200
afternoon of the 6th. 
So he was there when the bomb 

968
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,560
was discovered is. 
He the one that made the call, 

969
00:52:26,560 --> 00:52:29,080
then that that went off. 
That he was the first one that 

970
00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:33,480
it was reported to and, and 
he's, you know, like he said, he

971
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,480
said that was, he said that was 
a day he'll never forget and he,

972
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:38,560
you know, he went into a lot of 
detailed description about how 

973
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:44,120
that whole thing unfolded, but 
super, super nice guy. 

974
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:48,800
And so I, I did something that, 
you know, I've not done very 

975
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:55,920
often, but I showed him a couple
of videos and he went, Oh my 

976
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:59,760
God. 
He said, this is, it's not the 

977
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,160
kid, is it? 
I said no, it's not the kid. 

978
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,480
I think any reasonable person's 
going to see that and DOJ is 

979
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,760
going to have some real problems
very shortly when they try to 

980
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,680
put this in front of a judge 
again, I'm, I'm I want to punch 

981
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,520
through this. 
We're on page 4 of 23. 

982
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,680
So folks, bear with me as we 
continue through here. 

983
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,920
Steve and I are known to to talk
a long time, but I'm I'm more 

984
00:53:17,920 --> 00:53:20,160
worried about your, your health 
than I am getting through some 

985
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,600
of this stuff. 
So they go on and they talk 

986
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:23,360
about this one is actually 
really critical. 

987
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,480
Approximately 739 and 27 
seconds. 

988
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,280
This is where they get into the 
phone pings. 

989
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,320
Folks, there's a lot of problems
here and there's a great map 

990
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,600
that we're going to show you, 
which is going to be familiar if

991
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,960
you're, if you're not new to 
this program, OK? 

992
00:53:35,240 --> 00:53:38,120
It says that is the first 5 
minutes after the defendant was 

993
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,720
captured on video surveillance, 
which was again right around 

994
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:44,320
730-5734. 
You've got a cell phone 

995
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,760
interacting with two cell phone 
towers consistent with him being

996
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,160
at the intersection of D Street 
and South Capitol St. 

997
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,640
SE. 
Let me say what this is, Steve, 

998
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,720
you've been doing some, you've 
been doing some some background 

999
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,280
on this. 
And so you can kind of check my 

1000
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:04,160
math. 
What they've done here is 

1001
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:08,320
they've said we need for this 
subject to be at a place on the 

1002
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,880
grid. 
And so we are going to tell you 

1003
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,480
that it's consistent with being 
there, but it's not just 

1004
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,720
consistent with being there, 
it's consistent with being 

1005
00:54:15,720 --> 00:54:18,400
within 1000 meters or more of 
there. 

1006
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:22,880
So a circular kilometer in and 
around that, that little area 

1007
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,880
and most of it actually is not 
close to D St. 

1008
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,520
SE and S capital. 
What it actually is close to is 

1009
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,480
1000 meters to the West of that 
and South. 

1010
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:36,360
And so their claim that they're 
making here, as far as I can 

1011
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,680
tell, is that it could be this 
person, but only because they 

1012
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:42,160
needed to be this person to be 
able to make these claims. 

1013
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,520
Is that am I saying that in a 
way that makes sense? 

1014
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,400
Yeah, that's that's essentially 
what's happening here is that 

1015
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:49,680
I'm. 
Going to scroll to the map so 

1016
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:51,840
people can see. 
It I will I will tell you that 

1017
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:59,120
after sitting through several of
these January 6 trials and 

1018
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:06,320
seeing the are listening to the 
absolute precision and 

1019
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:13,920
scientific certainty of how they
traced and tracked some of these

1020
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,160
people using, you know, this, 
this tower technology. 

1021
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,120
Now some of it was tracked using
GPS, Google, you know, that sort

1022
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,680
of thing, ad ID, which are which
of course is all much more 

1023
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:28,040
accurate. 
But what I have learned since we

1024
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:32,840
began studying this specifically
related to the Brian Cole case 

1025
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:37,480
is that if we're if we're 
setting a standard in this 

1026
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:42,680
country when we're talking 
legally of beyond a reasonable 

1027
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:50,440
doubt, nothing about this 
technology satisfies that 

1028
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:54,760
nothing. 
So that is the standard less 

1029
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:57,520
people think that we're, we're 
picking something up that the 

1030
00:55:57,520 --> 00:55:59,560
standard is, is beyond a 
reasonable doubt that no 

1031
00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,360
reasonable person would doubt 
that the, that the individual 

1032
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,440
actually committed the crime. 
In this case, what they've made 

1033
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:08,440
the claim is, is that somebody 
was in, if you look at where 

1034
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:10,200
these arms are on the screen. 
And folks, if you're not 

1035
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,560
watching on Spotify or if you're
not listening or, you know, 

1036
00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,840
watching us on, on, on Rumble or
YouTube, you're missing out on 

1037
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:16,520
the visual here. 
Which I do think is critical for

1038
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,680
this particular case because 
these are exhibits that are 

1039
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:20,400
being put in the government's 
own document. 

1040
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,120
And they look suspiciously 
similar to the stuff that we had

1041
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,200
set up to be able to show people
exactly where these towers are. 

1042
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,760
And it's almost identical to the
one that Armitas put together 

1043
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:33,360
for Blaze and has been cited and
I've put out on social media 

1044
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:35,520
before. 
In fact, you make sure I have 

1045
00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,040
the right one. 
But I'm also going to show you 

1046
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:43,080
guys a very similar, a very 
similar drawing, which was done 

1047
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:46,960
not by the government in this 
case, but by private individuals

1048
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,480
who are mapping this 
information. 

1049
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,600
So here we go. 
I've actually got this for you 

1050
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:52,040
here too. 
So now you guys look this the 

1051
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,880
government's Exhibit T-Mobile 
data sessions January 5th, and 

1052
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,680
you'll notice it is very, very 
similar, although the 

1053
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:58,600
government's 1 is a little bit 
snazzier looking. 

1054
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:05,040
This one is a dark mode view of 
the exact same towers and with a

1055
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,800
little bit less precise lineage 
is all I would say on there. 

1056
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:10,000
But essentially we're looking at
the same thing. 

1057
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,440
They're showing the same fields.
Now the issue with what the 

1058
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,360
government is presenting is that
at at there was a tower ping at 

1059
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:25,880
one, 3927 seconds from tower one
and tower 2 on the screen, 

1060
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:30,600
there's another ping from tower 
4, I'm sorry, from tower two at 

1061
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:36,440
744, so 5 minutes later. 
But all of these run around sort

1062
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:43,880
of this, this basic issue that 
these are huge 120° thousand 

1063
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,720
plus yards in in all directions 
sectors. 

1064
00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:52,080
They're 1/3 of of the map moving
out from a single point. 

1065
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:55,720
And these are not precise, not 
even a little bit precise. 

1066
00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:00,640
Oh, and, and the science will, 
you know, tell you we're, and 

1067
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:02,360
we, we're, when we're talking 
about the science, we're talking

1068
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,760
about the FBI cast experts. 
I think there's at any one time 

1069
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,080
you can correct me on this, 
Kyle, if I'm wrong, but at any 

1070
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:14,720
one time, there's about 60 to 80
experts in this particular 

1071
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:19,040
science within the FBI that 
that's nationwide, not not in 

1072
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:20,600
DC. 
Yeah, it might even be smaller 

1073
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:21,960
than that, to be honest. 
I don't, I don't. 

1074
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:24,320
It's not a big group. 
It's a very small group. 

1075
00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,880
The the the headquarters people 
are usually they're assigned to 

1076
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,280
headquarters, but they may work 
in various field offices and 

1077
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,920
they can live in other places. 
And yeah, they do really 

1078
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,720
specialized work on here. 
But this is. 

1079
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:38,880
And on what we've been able to 
gather from these experts, the 

1080
00:58:39,560 --> 00:58:47,120
FBI retired is that it's so 
imprecise as, as I said, not to 

1081
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,120
meet the standard of beyond 
reasonable doubt. 

1082
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:55,200
And that's, that's, that's with 
pings that they get both within 

1083
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:00,560
the the vectors or the azimuths 
or things they get outside of 

1084
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:02,960
them. 
There's, there's no way. 

1085
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:08,720
And then, and then there's the 
problem of not only distances 

1086
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:13,560
from where the ping is, but from
also where we think we know 

1087
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:20,440
where our subject really is. 
So it's the acute location 

1088
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,880
versus the real location. 
Folks, I want you to look at the

1089
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:25,760
screen here again, if you're 
listening, I would love it if 

1090
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,200
you guys were watching on 
Spotify because you're gonna be 

1091
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,320
able to see this. 
But essentially, there's a 

1092
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,680
north-south road here and this 
is South Capitol St. 

1093
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,960
SE that you're seeing where my 
cursor is running right there. 

1094
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:36,440
Just off to the right or just 
off to the east over here is 

1095
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,760
where the the DNC is. 
It's this blue dot. 

1096
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,240
And then if you move over 2 
blocks and up one, you'll see 

1097
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,040
just north of that is where 
you've got the RNC in this red 

1098
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:46,840
dot O. 
These are the two dots that are 

1099
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,160
in play, which means the square 
of reference is here, which is 

1100
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:53,480
second St. down to about East 
St. if memory serves. 

1101
00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:55,840
We're going to go to South 
Capital St. 

1102
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,040
You'll see that the New Jersey 
Ave. 

1103
00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,720
SE cuts in between and then the 
top side here is C Charlie. 

1104
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,400
So C Charlie down to D Delta and
E Echo. 

1105
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:07,840
These are the three streets 
running north-south and then the

1106
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:11,400
east West from starting from the
West, S Capitol New Jersey and 

1107
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,240
then finally 2nd St. 
SE. 

1108
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,800
These are the kind of the square
of operations where we need to 

1109
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:19,320
find the pipe bomber. 
Now all you need to know is. 

1110
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:23,400
Between the hours of let's say 
734, when the pipe bomber 

1111
01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,440
appears on camera roughly here 
where my at this New Jersey and 

1112
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:27,840
E Street. 
Am I correct in that, Steve? 

1113
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,200
Is it about New Jersey and E? 
Yeah, OK. 

1114
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,680
Down here. 
That's where the pipe bomber 

1115
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:35,920
appears at 7:34 and then 
disappears forever right up here

1116
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,200
at the corner roughly of C St. 
and 2nd St. 

1117
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:44,280
That's or is it D St. 
It doesn't make a difference 

1118
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,400
over here at 2nd St. and and. 
And. 

1119
01:00:47,920 --> 01:00:49,800
This is our Far East boundary 
here. 

1120
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,240
This is where the pipe bomber 
disappears forever. 

1121
01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,920
There's two parks here, one of 
which I cannot recall the name 

1122
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,200
of. 
Garfield Park is the southern 

1123
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:58,800
park. 
And then Folger Park is going to

1124
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:03,200
be sighted right here and it 
applies to D St. 

1125
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:04,920
SE. 
So for those of you looking at 

1126
01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:06,320
this map, I think this is really
critical. 

1127
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:12,000
If the pipe bomber is in this 
area on camera between 7:34 and 

1128
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,680
8:18, which is what the the 
government claims. 

1129
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:19,040
And Brian Cole is anywhere 
outside in, including in the 

1130
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:21,320
overlapping areas where these 
cell phone ping towers. 

1131
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:24,600
Because you'll notice this pink 
tower goes here and you could be

1132
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,200
literally right out here, which 
is a, a place that would hit 

1133
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:32,440
every single one of those cell 
phone pings if you were in this 

1134
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:36,240
space during that time. 
The government's case is dead on

1135
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:39,920
arrival if he's anywhere other 
than the areas they need him to 

1136
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:43,240
be are our chat. 
Rose Lopez is our chat moderator

1137
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,600
over on on Rumble and pointed 
out you're basically taking a 

1138
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:50,560
puzzle piece that sort of fits 
and cramming it in kind of when 

1139
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:53,160
you have like the almost shape, 
it's a heart shape, but just you

1140
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,840
shove it into the Oval shaped 
area. 

1141
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,280
You can make it fit, but only 
because you need it to fit. 

1142
01:01:58,280 --> 01:02:00,120
And that's essentially what I 
think the government is doing 

1143
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,560
with this argument. 
We're going to go a little 

1144
01:02:01,560 --> 01:02:04,040
further into this document since
we're on page 7 right now and I 

1145
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,080
want to make sure we get the 
really important stuff. 

1146
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:09,440
The pipe bombs that were planted
by the RNC did not detonate as 

1147
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,720
intended. 
They're making a big, they're 

1148
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,040
making a big claim here that 
they were intended to detonate. 

1149
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:17,360
I just let you guys know that's 
required for the statutory 

1150
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:19,640
charges they brought. 
They weren't discovered until 

1151
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:21,840
approximately 1:00 PM on January
the 6th. 

1152
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:24,800
The hazardous device section of 
the United States Capitol Police

1153
01:02:24,800 --> 01:02:28,200
responded and performed render 
safe procedures on both devices.

1154
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:30,040
And kind of skip over that for 
now. 

1155
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:32,480
There's more to that story as 
well, which Steve has covered 

1156
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,880
the FBSS to. 
The 2 vices were IEDs that 

1157
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:38,800
contained a main explosive 
charge, a fusing system, and a 

1158
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,800
container. 
They also assessed that they had

1159
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,040
a hard metal container, which 
was metal pipe nipples and end 

1160
01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:47,520
caps, which showed that the 
whippin characteristics were 

1161
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,720
present. 
They're really, really dancing 

1162
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:52,680
around this folks, because they 
used the word viability 3 times 

1163
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:56,880
in this document. 
The words viability are required

1164
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,600
because they made-up their own 
standard. 

1165
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,760
Viability is not a thing we talk
about when we talk about 

1166
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,840
explosives, they say, and we've 
had that. 

1167
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,800
Even the Loudermilk report said 
it previously. 

1168
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:09,080
They talk about whether it was 
designed as a hoax or whether it

1169
01:03:09,080 --> 01:03:11,120
was designed to function as it 
was built. 

1170
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,880
And viability is not something 
that we discussed and we know 

1171
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:16,520
they weren't viable because they
didn't go off. 

1172
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,120
That's the simplest answer. 
The word viable means. 

1173
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,120
Nothing. 
I know they weren't viable 

1174
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:23,200
because. 
I was briefed on that. 

1175
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:25,600
You were briefed. 
On it. 

1176
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,160
As as were others who can 
actually substantiate at the 

1177
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,720
time. 
So this is the problem with with

1178
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:33,520
something that has already 
happened and people who have 

1179
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:35,680
good memories and it turns out 
that when you hire folks to be 

1180
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,440
FBI agents, you know the sort of
thing that they might recall 

1181
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,280
being put on a pipe bomber case.
I wasn't the only person that 

1182
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,840
was briefed this. 
There were other agents that 

1183
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,560
were involved, the person that 
gave the briefing. 

1184
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:46,560
And then it went broader than 
that. 

1185
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:48,800
Even friends of mine who have 
worked in the outer parts of the

1186
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,320
FBI but had contact with what's 
called the special agent bomb 

1187
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:54,880
technician, it's a whole group 
of people that do this 

1188
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,840
specialized job. 
It went out quite broadly that 

1189
01:03:57,840 --> 01:04:01,800
these were inert devices, that 
they were looking very bomb 

1190
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:04,240
like, but not bombs. 
Or as our buddy Steve Friend 

1191
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,760
likes to say, the bombs would 
have been bombs if they've been 

1192
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,200
bombs, which is us being 
flippant about this. 

1193
01:04:09,200 --> 01:04:11,520
But this is really what their, 
their, their charge actually 

1194
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,080
hinges on because they have an 
alleged ideology. 

1195
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:16,920
They haven't alleged any sort of
terrorism. 

1196
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,040
What they're saying is that 
these are destructive devices. 

1197
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:23,720
And the FBI explosives examiner 
assessed that the pipe bombs 

1198
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:26,880
were constructed using all the 
components necessary to explode 

1199
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:29,880
and that they were viable 
explosive devices, even though 

1200
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,960
that's not a standard that the 
FBI actually uses. 

1201
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:34,600
And it gets worse from here, 
people. 

1202
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,840
So this was the strongest part 
of the FBI's argument, as I 

1203
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:40,520
understand it. 
They mentioned the, the, the 

1204
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:42,600
diagrams. 
These are some of the things 

1205
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:45,440
that you guys have seen. 
I'll link this, this particular 

1206
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:46,520
document so you guys can find 
it. 

1207
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,400
I'll post the PDF over on locals
at kyleseraphin.com if you want 

1208
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,880
to read it. 
It's not mine to share other 

1209
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:52,200
than, you know, it's public 
record now. 

1210
01:04:52,200 --> 01:04:53,120
So we're going to put this out 
there. 

1211
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:54,880
Let's keep moving through some 
of these things. 

1212
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,000
This is why I think this is such
a dumb case and why I think they

1213
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,880
probably already disproved it. 
The FBI obtained records for the

1214
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:03,400
defendant's checking account and
three of his credit cards for 

1215
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:08,120
the time period of January 2018 
to January of 2021. 

1216
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:10,200
They mentioned this in the 
complaint as well. 

1217
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,200
There are three additional 
credit cards that were obtained 

1218
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,120
between January 18 and November 
of 2025. 

1219
01:05:15,360 --> 01:05:18,080
The FBI reviewed transaction 
history for all of these 

1220
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,720
accounts. 
I actually don't know how they 

1221
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,720
decided this was a good method, 
but what they did is they argued

1222
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,480
that he bought bomb making of 
materials. 

1223
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:29,320
They found his pings generally 
in Washington, DC and his car 

1224
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:31,480
hit on a license plate reader 
and that constitutes probable 

1225
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:34,520
cause. 
I don't think a judge will see 

1226
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:36,040
that when this is actually 
brought in. 

1227
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,160
Here's why this is so crazy, 
y'all. 

1228
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:44,200
This is the list of information.
This is the list of pieces that 

1229
01:05:44,200 --> 01:05:46,720
were purchased and they are 
listed in this particular 

1230
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,000
document on page 10. 
A 9 Volt battery connector. 

1231
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,640
A timer. 
This is a kitchen timer. 

1232
01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,840
The there were two of them 
purchased in June of 2020 from 

1233
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:59,920
Walmart. 
These kitchen timers, they were 

1234
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:04,440
59 Volt battery connectors, 
which were purchased in November

1235
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,040
and December of 2019. 
So he was mad at both political 

1236
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:09,720
parties. 
He thought that the the election

1237
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,840
was rigged and stolen. 
And he decided that in November 

1238
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,480
of 2019 so he could start 
building his pipe bombs, what, a

1239
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:18,680
year earlier before the 
election, Steve. 

1240
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,360
Yeah. 
This is the argument they're 

1241
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,000
making. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1242
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,160
Year and a half. 
This is why. 

1243
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,360
OK, so this is fun. 
So these are all bought before 

1244
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:28,520
the actual bomb was placed. 
And so you have the materials 

1245
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,800
necessary. 
You have an 8 inch pipe, 8 inch 

1246
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,320
pipe with nipple on each end. 
You've got that, which is just 

1247
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,720
means it's threaded. 
You've got the the iron, the 

1248
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,200
black iron end caps. 
You have galvanized end caps. 

1249
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:41,360
There were 12 of the black ones 
and they were two of the 

1250
01:06:41,360 --> 01:06:43,440
galvanized ones. 
They were all purchased in early

1251
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:46,120
2020. 
You've got red wiring and blue 

1252
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:48,760
wiring and black wiring, sorry, 
red and black wiring and 

1253
01:06:48,760 --> 01:06:53,040
multiple different lengths were 
bought 350 feet, 150 feet, 100 

1254
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:57,200
feet and 100 feet at home depots
and Lowe's over a period of two 

1255
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:59,480
years. 
And for me, the wild part of it 

1256
01:06:59,480 --> 01:07:06,160
is, is that they probably used a
grand total of what, 3 feet in 

1257
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:09,640
the entirety of both pipes, But 
but more needed to be bought. 

1258
01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:12,560
There's some steel wool which 
was bought in December of 2020 

1259
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:16,360
and some sulfur, which was 
bought on Amazon in 2018. 

1260
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:20,400
Folks, January 14th of 2018. 
This is the first time I've seen

1261
01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:25,760
this particular purchase added. 
He bought sulfur in a, in a jar 

1262
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:28,400
or in a, in some sort of a, you 
know, plastic dispenser from 

1263
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:32,320
Amazon, a 1 LB amount of sulfur.
That's the first piece of the 

1264
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:38,040
charcoal bomb making sort of, 
you know, black powder stuff. 

1265
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,240
And they haven't made any claims
that he bought previously. 

1266
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,200
So this is all wild. 
Here's where I think this falls 

1267
01:07:42,200 --> 01:07:44,320
apart. 
I'm going to let Steve take a 

1268
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,280
deep breath at the top of this 
one. 

1269
01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:50,160
The government says after 
planting the pipe bombs on 

1270
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,440
January 5th, 2021, the defendant
continued to purchase bomb 

1271
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,640
making components as illustrated
below. 

1272
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:00,960
The last identified purchase 
occurred on August the 13th of 

1273
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:04,160
2022. 
People, what the government 

1274
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:06,840
wants to make the argument is 
that not only did he build these

1275
01:08:06,840 --> 01:08:11,200
bombs years in advance of the 
anger that he had over the 

1276
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:14,880
election, he then continued to 
buy bomb making materials to 

1277
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,680
include another timer. 
And this one I think is the most

1278
01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,880
damning and stupid from Walmart 
just like the others. 

1279
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:26,240
On 1/21 of 2021, three weeks 
after the J6 pipe bomb happens, 

1280
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,040
he goes out and buys another 
kitchen timer and he also goes 

1281
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:35,560
out and buys more pipe. 
It's because he's a genius. 

1282
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,600
He's a absolute criminal genius.
He wants to if you're. 

1283
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:42,760
Going to if you're going to cut 
any parts of this, folks, this 

1284
01:08:42,760 --> 01:08:45,200
is the, this is the cut, the cut
that you should be doing. 

1285
01:08:46,279 --> 01:08:50,319
Look at this. 
The government claims that a 

1286
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:53,160
person who got away with 
dropping 2 pipe bombs in the 

1287
01:08:53,160 --> 01:08:56,960
nation's capital which did not 
detonate and was able to elude 

1288
01:08:56,960 --> 01:09:01,080
the FBI for five years, bought 
more bomb making materials 

1289
01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:06,520
within three weeks of that. 
Went on January the 21st of 2021

1290
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:10,080
to buy another kitchen timer. 
Went back to Home Depot to buy 

1291
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:17,200
more 8 inch pipe on 1/20/22. 
Sorry, on 1/22 of 2021. 

1292
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:20,240
So that's again three weeks 
after, then again in March of 

1293
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:27,279
21, then again in October of 21,
and also in August of 2022, and 

1294
01:09:27,439 --> 01:09:30,479
more end caps. 
This guy, apparently, this is 

1295
01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:32,399
the actual purchase history of 
Brian Cole. 

1296
01:09:32,399 --> 01:09:35,640
Junior was compulsively buying 
pieces that would be able to 

1297
01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:39,520
build pipe bombs after getting 
away with it. 

1298
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,160
The problem is, is that his own 
statement in the confession, 

1299
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:47,160
which the government lays out, 
contradicts this buying history.

1300
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,960
And we cannot believe that what 
he's saying makes sense. 

1301
01:09:50,399 --> 01:09:53,240
So now we're going to go to the 
best part, I think is maybe of 

1302
01:09:53,439 --> 01:09:55,800
of any of this, which is the 
confession. 

1303
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,280
This is the first time that 
we've seen this and we're 

1304
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:00,440
halfway into. 
This is the part Kyle that upset

1305
01:10:00,440 --> 01:10:05,760
me so much last night is I think
the best way I could describe 

1306
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:12,320
this when I read through it was 
either old crime dramas where 

1307
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:17,640
people were being scapegoated, 
framed Patsy's set up and where 

1308
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,360
it was a really, really weak 
individual. 

1309
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:23,080
You know the guy that you know, 
they've got him under the light,

1310
01:10:23,080 --> 01:10:26,400
they're sweating him out, you 
know, and, and, and he and he's 

1311
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:29,080
not a good guy. 
There's something else wrong in 

1312
01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,960
his background, whatever. 
But as I read through this, I 

1313
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:35,120
was looking at a fucking 
Hollywood script. 

1314
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:39,320
And I'm, I apologize for that, 
but that's why I couldn't sleep 

1315
01:10:39,320 --> 01:10:44,760
last night when I read this, is 
that they have manipulated this 

1316
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,760
mind. 
Not 100%. 

1317
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:52,640
Look, look, look, let's let's 
let's be honest, high 

1318
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,200
functioning autistic people can 
have superpowers. 

1319
01:10:55,200 --> 01:10:58,480
We all know about that. 
I mean, they can do sometimes 

1320
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:01,720
they can do incredible. 
In fact, some, some autistic 

1321
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:04,680
individuals who have no 
capability of interacting in 

1322
01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:08,720
public or within in society 
whatsoever have insane 

1323
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:10,000
superpowers. 
Yeah. 

1324
01:11:10,480 --> 01:11:19,880
And and so it it as I looked at 
this, though, and you see them, 

1325
01:11:19,920 --> 01:11:22,920
I all I could see was that, you 
know, that hot and I know it's 

1326
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:26,200
Hollywood, but I could see that 
hot light over his head and he's

1327
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:29,760
being sweated and they're 
holding the water from him. 

1328
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,840
You know, you got the the pack 
of cigarettes, you know, answer 

1329
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,160
another question. 
I'll give you a cigarette. 

1330
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:37,920
You know what I'm saying? 
This is the I'm reading this bad

1331
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:43,640
being in my. 80s TV drama. 
It's 60s or 70s television. 50s 

1332
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,800
B movie, you know, come on, 
drama and in black and white. 

1333
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,560
And that's what I'm seeing here.
And as I'm reading this, I'm 

1334
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,560
becoming more and more and more 
offended by it, and more and 

1335
01:11:54,560 --> 01:12:00,960
more offended and appalled that 
these agents of our government, 

1336
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:06,280
agents of the FBI, felt a need 
to go there. 

1337
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:09,320
It's going to get worse when 
people understand why this 

1338
01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:10,840
bothered you so much. 
So I'm going to get into the 

1339
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:12,800
confession part of it right now.
There's a couple of things that 

1340
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:14,720
I'm going to call out that are 
really, really interesting to 

1341
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,280
me. 
December 4th, 2025, law 

1342
01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,520
enforcement executed an arrest 
warrant for the defendant and 

1343
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,600
took him into custody. 
Search warrants were executed at

1344
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:25,480
the defendant's person or on his
person, his home, and his Nissan

1345
01:12:25,480 --> 01:12:27,600
Sentra, and his workplace in 
Fairfax, VA. 

1346
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,160
But interestingly enough, they 
didn't seize the vehicle. 

1347
01:12:31,000 --> 01:12:32,600
That's bizarre. 
And you can confirm that, right,

1348
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,000
Steve? 
You saw the vehicle was outside 

1349
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,160
of his home. 
With my own eyes a week and a 

1350
01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:37,840
half ago. 
Completely bizarre. 

1351
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:42,040
The the Samsung cellular device 
that was seized from the 

1352
01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:44,480
defendant's person at the time 
of his arrest or there was a 

1353
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:46,600
Samsung cellular device. 
OK, so he had a cell phone. 

1354
01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,800
The forensic review of the 
device context showed that 

1355
01:12:49,800 --> 01:12:54,400
between December of 2020 and 
December of 2025, the device 

1356
01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:58,640
recorded 943 events identified 
as a factory reset. 

1357
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,520
They put the word a wipe, which 
is a colloquial term including a

1358
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:06,600
wipe approximately 3 hours 
before the defendant's arrest on

1359
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:11,200
December the 4th of 2025. 
All right people, let's get real

1360
01:13:11,200 --> 01:13:15,080
serious about this because this 
is the first stupid, stupid, 

1361
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,440
stupid, foolish thing that they 
put in here that undermines 

1362
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:19,640
their own case in their own 
defection, you know, their own 

1363
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:25,400
expose of the of the confession.
He had a cell phone and it was 

1364
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:30,080
factory reset or wiped December 
of 2020. 

1365
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:36,320
That's before the pipe bomb was 
placed and also wiped 942 other 

1366
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,000
times. 
Now that might sound like a very

1367
01:13:39,680 --> 01:13:44,560
concerned and guilty conscience 
person who is doing some sort of

1368
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,840
a logical action to try to make 
sure that his online activity 

1369
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,160
and his cell phone is not 
traceable by law enforcement. 

1370
01:13:51,160 --> 01:13:52,960
I'm going to roll down here 
because it's always in the 

1371
01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:56,440
footnote where you hide the lie,
so here it is on page 12. 

1372
01:13:56,680 --> 01:14:00,040
The first factory reset took 
place on December the 15th, 

1373
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:02,920
2020. 
That's before, right? 

1374
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:06,600
He went and supposedly dropped 
pipe bombs in Washington DC on 

1375
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,160
January the 5th. 
The next such event did not 

1376
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:14,400
occur until July 15th of 2022. 
There's an almost 18 month gap 

1377
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:18,400
between these two factory resets
to the point where they have 

1378
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,560
nothing to do with the case at 
all. 

1379
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,320
And they included it because it 
sounds damning to someone who's 

1380
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,040
not paying attention and doesn't
read the footnote. 

1381
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,320
But the minute you read the 
footnote, you realize that 

1382
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,440
apparently he dropped pipe bombs
and then didn't worry about this

1383
01:14:30,440 --> 01:14:33,040
for 18 months before he did it 
again. 

1384
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:37,080
That that is the stupidest 
argument I've ever seen. 

1385
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,600
I don't know how they thought 
this was even a plausible thing 

1386
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:41,480
to put out there. 
I'm going to add one more thing 

1387
01:14:41,480 --> 01:14:43,560
to it, Steve, before you react 
to it. 

1388
01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,320
Here's a little little AI 
summary of how online addiction 

1389
01:14:48,440 --> 01:14:51,240
could tie into this is. 
This was given to me by Armitas 

1390
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:52,800
this morning, so I want to give 
credit where it's due. 

1391
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,720
Yeah, compulsive digital 
cleaning as a ritual. 

1392
01:14:55,720 --> 01:14:58,280
Some people with severe online 
addictions, especially when they

1393
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,640
have comorbidities with autism, 
anxiety or OCD like traits, will

1394
01:15:01,640 --> 01:15:04,360
develop an extreme habit around 
privacy, shame or control. 

1395
01:15:04,520 --> 01:15:08,360
And this can include repeatedly 
deleting history, clearing apps,

1396
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:12,360
or in rare escalations go to 
full device resets or start 

1397
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:14,960
fresh to hide traces of 
excessive use, whether it be 

1398
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:17,520
from porn or gaming or forums or
other things. 

1399
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:21,080
Guilt and shame cycles in 
behavioral addictions often 

1400
01:15:21,080 --> 01:15:25,240
drive other over the top 
concealment efforts, even if 

1401
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:26,800
they are ineffective in the long
term. 

1402
01:15:27,200 --> 01:15:31,080
And there is a a known tie to 
autism spectrum disorder 

1403
01:15:31,480 --> 01:15:33,720
frequently overlapping with 
Internet addictions. 

1404
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,400
And then this sort of wiping 
behavior could also be tied to 

1405
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,080
that. 
But the fact that there was no 

1406
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:41,200
wipe that took place after the 
apparently guilty incident of 

1407
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:44,680
dropping these pipe bombs is a 
massive shot through the middle 

1408
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:46,800
of this this governmental case 
as far as I can tell. 

1409
01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:49,800
And I have no idea why they even
included this in this in this 

1410
01:15:49,960 --> 01:15:55,160
briefing here. 
Now this, this is we, we got, 

1411
01:15:57,800 --> 01:15:59,480
we, we passed around a screen 
image. 

1412
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:02,120
And again, I apologize for being
a little slow on the uptake 

1413
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,920
here, but we passed around a 
screen image a couple of weeks 

1414
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:10,080
ago after this arrest of Brian 
Cole, you know, of a book, an 

1415
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:16,040
actual book that deals with the 
high confession rate of autistic

1416
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,320
individuals. 
Just start there. 

1417
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:20,160
And we're we're not even here 
here. 

1418
01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,720
We're getting into the guilt 
aspects of what what whatever it

1419
01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:29,640
is, you know, online pornography
or, or some other, you know. 

1420
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,880
Or even someone that wanted to 
like go to bomb making forums if

1421
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:34,800
you're involved in people that 
are doing dumb things. 

1422
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,280
By the way, those are probably 
all infiltrated. 

1423
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:40,880
By this talk about that, OK, you
know, I grew up in an era and I 

1424
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,240
I hate going and you're playing 
the old guy here. 

1425
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,520
But you know, I had friends that
had bombed. 

1426
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,160
You know, you ordered them 
online. 

1427
01:16:48,160 --> 01:16:51,000
It wasn't online at the time. 
You went to the back of a 

1428
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,920
magazine, might be Mad magazine,
it might be a science magazine. 

1429
01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:01,600
But you ordered bomb making kits
and the Postal Service delivered

1430
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:06,160
them to your home, right? 
And then my friends in the 

1431
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,520
corner of the room would build 
little bitty, you know, bombs of

1432
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,280
various sizes and shapes and 
complexities of that sort of 

1433
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,120
thing. 
And then we would go out and 

1434
01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,240
blow shit up. 
Yeah, this happened and you 

1435
01:17:17,240 --> 01:17:19,280
lived in Louisiana at the time 
where people might do that. 

1436
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:22,080
People do it in Utah, People do 
it in Wyoming, Montana. 

1437
01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,520
There's places in Texas where 
people, I mean, we, we have a 

1438
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:28,200
family member who, who passed 
away that told us that they, 

1439
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:34,440
they actually created her pool 
in Bedrock in the 1960s or 70s. 

1440
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,920
And they did so by dynamiting 
and blasting through the rock. 

1441
01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:39,720
And that happened. 
And what they did is they laid 

1442
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,640
chain link fencing over the top 
of the rocks that they were 

1443
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:43,960
going to blow up. 
So they didn't go through the 

1444
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:47,120
house and then they just blasted
holes in the, in the bedrock. 

1445
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:48,680
And that's where they ended up 
putting the pool into the 

1446
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,560
ground. 
And that happened as recently 

1447
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:54,200
as, like I said, the 1970s in 
Texas, it's not uncommon for 

1448
01:17:54,200 --> 01:17:56,840
people to be able to use 
explosives all over the place. 

1449
01:17:57,120 --> 01:18:00,520
And so The funny thing is, is 
that there are all kinds of 

1450
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:01,880
forms where people discuss this 
stuff. 

1451
01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,640
And you don't have to be in 
America to be able to be on the 

1452
01:18:03,640 --> 01:18:05,520
Internet. 
You also could be in the FBI, it

1453
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:08,200
turns out, and they could be out
there feeding these online 

1454
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:10,840
communities to do some really 
bad stuff. 

1455
01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:13,120
But again, I'm going to go back 
to this little section here of 

1456
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,800
these purchases. 
These were all made after every 

1457
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,320
single one of these purchases of
50 feet of wire in red and 

1458
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,520
black. 
More steel wool, more alligator 

1459
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:24,760
clips, more galvanized end caps,
more 8 inch pipe, and another 

1460
01:18:24,760 --> 01:18:29,000
kitchen time were all made after
he apparently dropped two 

1461
01:18:29,000 --> 01:18:31,760
successful bombs and got away 
with it in Washington DC as 

1462
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,880
starting as little as three 
weeks after the fact. 

1463
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:36,640
This is a completely illogical 
argument being made that he has 

1464
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:39,600
some sort of like compulsion for
OPSEC or what we call 

1465
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:42,240
operational security. 
And at the same time that he 

1466
01:18:42,240 --> 01:18:46,000
also is so dumb that he waited 
17, you know, 18 months before 

1467
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:49,280
wiping his phone after doing 
these things and drove around 

1468
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,160
with all this information out 
there, which was easily 

1469
01:18:51,160 --> 01:18:52,400
gettable. 
I'm going to keep going, but I 

1470
01:18:52,400 --> 01:18:54,560
just want you to know that's the
first massive hole that I saw. 

1471
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:58,040
And one of the wildest parts of 
this, this little admission here

1472
01:18:58,440 --> 01:18:59,880
is that they found all this 
stuff. 

1473
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:02,520
You know, that's fine. 
They also mentioned that they 

1474
01:19:02,520 --> 01:19:07,000
did a video recorded interview, 
folks. 

1475
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,080
They interviewed this guy for 
four hours. 

1476
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:14,240
And as is very uncommon in a lot
of FBI interviews, the interview

1477
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:18,480
which was video recorded, the 
defendant initially denied 

1478
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:21,280
manufacturing, transporting and 
planting the pipe bombs and he 

1479
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:25,120
did so for two hours as they 
beaten down. 

1480
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:29,440
He, he did a written, a written 
waiver of his Miranda rights and

1481
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:30,920
he was interviewed for multiple 
hours. 

1482
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,440
Here's the real problem with 
this. 

1483
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:36,120
He has to be competent to be 
able to actually waive those 

1484
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,080
Miranda rights for this to 
actually have any validity 

1485
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:41,320
whatsoever. 
And I think there's a real 

1486
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,480
strong statement that we've 
heard from people who knew him, 

1487
01:19:43,480 --> 01:19:45,480
people who were around him, 
including people who just sort 

1488
01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:48,600
of interacted with him in a in 
the public, that this guy didn't

1489
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,120
have the confidence to actually 
do that. 

1490
01:19:50,120 --> 01:19:53,480
And if he did, we're going to 
have a problem if they find that

1491
01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:56,040
he actually had no understanding
of what was going on for two 

1492
01:19:56,040 --> 01:19:57,840
hours. 
He denied it and they broke him 

1493
01:19:57,840 --> 01:19:59,720
over 2 hours. 
We're going to get into that 

1494
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,560
piece as well. 
But they said they asked him 

1495
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:03,280
about his whereabouts. 
He said he drove his Nissan 

1496
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,840
Sentra into DC. 
He attended A protest concerning

1497
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,680
the outcome of the election. 
And then he says these things 

1498
01:20:08,680 --> 01:20:10,880
and we don't know where these 
happened in the interview, which

1499
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,320
is why this is kind of 
interesting and might be 

1500
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:15,240
deceptive because it doesn't say
that this happened in some sort 

1501
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:17,160
of logical fashion. 
They didn't, they didn't give 

1502
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,720
you a transcript of the 
interview to to evaluate the 

1503
01:20:19,720 --> 01:20:22,440
defendant explained. 
I didn't agree with what people 

1504
01:20:22,440 --> 01:20:27,160
were doing, just like telling 
half the country that they that 

1505
01:20:27,160 --> 01:20:30,720
their that they just need to 
ignore it. 

1506
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,400
I didn't think it was a good 
idea, so I went to the protest. 

1507
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:39,360
It doesn't sound like somebody 
who's telling you something in 

1508
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:40,960
confidence. 
So I'm just going to tell you 

1509
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:43,360
that when this actual video put,
I mean, I, if it was me, I'd 

1510
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,240
play the first two hours of 
this, of this 4 hour video 

1511
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:51,160
interrogation and then I would 
show exculpatory information 

1512
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:52,480
showing that he wasn't maybe 
there. 

1513
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,080
That's it, whether it be from 
DoorDash or anything else. 

1514
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,160
Kyle, you tell you tell me this 
because you've been there, 

1515
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:04,640
you've been in the room. 
I I haven't done this, but if 

1516
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:08,720
they've done any background on 
this kid whatsoever, OK, let's 

1517
01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:13,680
let's just assume for a moment 
that he was one of those 186 

1518
01:21:15,320 --> 01:21:18,840
pings are in interested phone 
numbers going back five years. 

1519
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,680
And let's assume that going back
all that time ago they 

1520
01:21:21,680 --> 01:21:24,640
eliminated him for some reason. 
Maybe they are limited to 

1521
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:27,840
eliminated him from 
consideration because of his 

1522
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:34,520
mental limitations and if 
they've done any background on 

1523
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,200
him whatsoever. 
If they even had a surveillance 

1524
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:41,960
squad out, which we know they 
didn't deploy one to like oh God

1525
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:43,640
it was. 
Yeah, November. 

1526
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:47,560
Yeah, 5 or 8 days after, you 
know, our first story on this 

1527
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:56,560
series came out and if they're 
watching the kid at all and then

1528
01:21:56,560 --> 01:22:01,800
do this interview without an 
attorney present, without. 

1529
01:22:01,960 --> 01:22:03,320
Here's where we know it's a real
problem. 

1530
01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:06,120
Determining him competent. 
This has to be thrown out, 

1531
01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:08,240
doesn't it Kyle? 
Well, we've seen that they 

1532
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,280
allowed him to keep his 
headphones on, which I've never 

1533
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,560
seen somebody be able to keep 
personal. 

1534
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,680
Effects mug shot. 
During his mug shot, yeah. 

1535
01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,960
So during the processing and 
I'm, I'm sure they wanted 

1536
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,280
compliance, which is what you'd 
want. 

1537
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:18,680
You want your subject not to 
lose their mind. 

1538
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,600
But if he was going to lose his 
mind because you took his 

1539
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,960
headphones, that tells you who 
you're dealing with or what, 

1540
01:22:23,960 --> 01:22:26,920
what level of functionality you 
have. 

1541
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:29,480
We're going to keep reading 
through this because this is 

1542
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:30,880
this. 
I mean, we're just getting into 

1543
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,360
the meat of how ridiculous this 
stuff is. 

1544
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:34,920
But his own words, I don't think
they incriminate him. 

1545
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,520
I think they are exculpatory in 
a very big way. 

1546
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:39,560
I think it all it does is it 
punches holes in what the 

1547
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:40,680
government tried to put 
together. 

1548
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:42,800
And again, we don't know where 
these occurred in the 

1549
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,360
discussion, whether these were 
at the one hour mark, the two 

1550
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:48,480
hour mark 2, you know, three. 
My, here's my supposition. 

1551
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:49,880
This is Kyle Seraphin's 
analysis. 

1552
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,400
So take it for what it's worth. 
I think they took this guy in. 

1553
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,080
He denied it for two hours 
because he didn't do it. 

1554
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,840
And then I think they threatened
him, which they mentioned 

1555
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,600
threatening him in this 
particular document. 

1556
01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,400
They threatened him with the 
felony, an additional felony of 

1557
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:08,000
lying to the FBI, which is a, a,
a 1001 charge, 18 USC 1001, 

1558
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,320
false statements. 
And at that point, he basically 

1559
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:14,320
caved and copped at everything. 
They gave him 20 more minutes to

1560
01:23:14,320 --> 01:23:16,600
sit by himself and Stew. 
Then they came back in and 

1561
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,800
collected what they needed and 
he essentially agreed to 

1562
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:20,680
everything that they needed, 
including things that are 

1563
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:22,840
completely illogical and you and
I know to be false, Steve. 

1564
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,360
And so will his defense team 
very shortly. 

1565
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,520
So here it goes. 
He says he didn't agree with it.

1566
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:28,800
Apparently this was about 
politics. 

1567
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:29,840
Again. 
You have to remember that 

1568
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:33,320
starting all the way back in 
2018, he's buying sulfur and 

1569
01:23:33,320 --> 01:23:35,640
he's buying bomb making 
equipment and he's buying clips 

1570
01:23:35,640 --> 01:23:37,360
from Micro Center. 
But he didn't agree with the 

1571
01:23:37,360 --> 01:23:38,920
election. 
So that's what's going on here. 

1572
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,160
Then he goes on and they just 
basically try to address all of 

1573
01:23:42,160 --> 01:23:44,080
the bullshit that they've been 
sold. 

1574
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:49,200
OK. 
And it looks like this the the 

1575
01:23:49,200 --> 01:23:51,480
defendant has never been an 
openly political person and 

1576
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:54,320
doesn't discuss politics with 
his family to avoid conflict. 

1577
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,240
They know that his family is a 
very left-leaning. 

1578
01:23:56,480 --> 01:23:59,600
According to the defendant, no 
one knows his political views 

1579
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,720
including his family. 
The defendant stated that he 

1580
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:04,200
does not align politically with 
his family members and doesn't 

1581
01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:07,000
and did not tell them he was 
going to a protest in support of

1582
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,720
then President Trump. 
Now, this looks like something I

1583
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,680
don't even know why you would. 
All right. 

1584
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,760
Later in the interview, the 
defendant explained that after 

1585
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:20,480
the 2020 election, when it first
seemed like something was wrong 

1586
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,920
and stuff started happening. 
Their words, not mine, they're 

1587
01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,240
quoting him. 
He began following the issue 

1588
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:28,040
closely on YouTube and Reddit 
and felt bewildered. 

1589
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,560
In the defendant's view, if 
people, quote, feel that, you 

1590
01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,880
know, something as important as 
voting in the federal election 

1591
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:42,760
is being tampered with is being,
you know, being, you know, 

1592
01:24:43,320 --> 01:24:47,440
relegated null and void, then 
like someone needs to speak up, 

1593
01:24:47,440 --> 01:24:51,000
right? 
Someone up top, you know, just 

1594
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:54,360
to just to at the very least 
calm things down. 

1595
01:24:54,480 --> 01:24:57,880
End Quote. 
The defendant felt that, quote, 

1596
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:01,520
UN quote, people at the top, 
including, quote, people on both

1597
01:25:01,520 --> 01:25:03,760
sides. 
Public figures, End Quote, 

1598
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:07,440
should not quote, ignore 
people's grievances or call them

1599
01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:11,200
conspiracy theorists, bad 
people, Nazis, or fascists. 

1600
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,200
I don't know when this occurred 
in there, but this sounds like 

1601
01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:17,560
we're just telling you what you 
need to hear. 

1602
01:25:17,640 --> 01:25:18,560
Instead. 
Quote. 

1603
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,760
If people feel like their votes 
are like just being thrown away,

1604
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:25,960
then at the very least someone 
should address it. 

1605
01:25:27,720 --> 01:25:29,160
This is where it gets really fun
for me. 

1606
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,320
As the interview continued, the 
defendant maintained that he did

1607
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:35,040
not plant the pipe bombs. 
So they're indicating that this 

1608
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,800
happened, like in a logical 
sequence, that he was mad about 

1609
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,760
the election. 
But I'm not confident that they 

1610
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:41,400
are because they don't actually 
say that in here. 

1611
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:44,440
And so, again, a transcript is 
going to be very important, but 

1612
01:25:44,440 --> 01:25:46,480
the actual video footage of him 
saying this and the degree of 

1613
01:25:46,480 --> 01:25:48,400
confidence we can assign to it 
is going to be huge. 

1614
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:50,920
Steve, here's the part that I 
think we all really care about. 

1615
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:53,640
As the interview continued, the 
defendant maintained he did not 

1616
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:56,600
plant the pipe bombs. 
However, when the defendant was 

1617
01:25:56,600 --> 01:26:00,760
shown a pair of Nike Air Max 
Speed turf shoes, he admitted 

1618
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,600
that he quote, used to have a 
pair and stated that he quote, 

1619
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:05,800
threw them away because they 
were old and they were coming 

1620
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:10,720
apart. 
No further information as we 

1621
01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,120
like to say in the business. 
We know that one of them was 

1622
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:18,400
squeaky. 
We do, actually. 

1623
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:24,120
Armitas was able to identify on 
one of the audio cameras. 

1624
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:25,520
Squeak. 
In the in the walk. 

1625
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:30,480
Shoe Yeah, in the walk that one 
of the one of the the the pair 

1626
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:34,400
of shoes was squeaking. 
So here's what we know from that

1627
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,080
little statement in this 
throwaway line that the 

1628
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,000
government filed in the 
confession. 

1629
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,680
They basically asked them about 
shoes. 

1630
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,960
And now they, they've explained 
why they don't have to produce 

1631
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:44,840
the shoes, which they said this 
case hinged on because he threw 

1632
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,800
them away. 
They do that with multiple 

1633
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:48,760
pieces of evidence that they 
would need to have, I would 

1634
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:51,520
think, after approximately 2 
hours, during which the 

1635
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,760
defendant maintained that he did
not place the bombs. 

1636
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:56,360
Are we serious right now? 
I mean, I know you can do a long

1637
01:26:56,360 --> 01:26:58,600
interrogation of people and 
sometimes people crack under 

1638
01:26:58,600 --> 01:26:59,800
pressure. 
That's certainly the case. 

1639
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:04,000
But they went at him for two 
hours and they continued on 

1640
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,080
until they got what they needed 
to hear. 

1641
01:27:05,080 --> 01:27:07,240
One of the interviewing agents 
asked the defendant if he wanted

1642
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,440
to end the interview and he 
responded that everything is 

1643
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:12,120
just blank. 
His words quote. 

1644
01:27:12,120 --> 01:27:15,920
Everything is just blank and 
quote a little too much to 

1645
01:27:15,920 --> 01:27:18,760
process. 
OK. 

1646
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:22,360
The interviewing agents then 
suggested that the defendant 

1647
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,120
look at the video footage from 
the night of January the 5th of 

1648
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:26,960
2021. 
Would you like to see this 

1649
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,280
video? 
Here we have it. 

1650
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:32,200
When the defendant was thrown a 
still image of himself on video.

1651
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,320
That's that's a conclusory right
there. 

1652
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:36,120
That's what they would call 
conclusory language. 

1653
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,240
In the filing a still image of 
himself on surveillance video 

1654
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:40,720
close to the time of planting 
the bombs. 

1655
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,280
He stated that he did not 
recognize the person and did not

1656
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,120
previously seen the video. 
Well, here's the problem with 

1657
01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:47,480
that. 
I think a lot of people have 

1658
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:50,960
already seen this video, right? 
And then he claims later on that

1659
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,960
he has in fact seen the video 
and that's why he did all the 

1660
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,120
things like get rid of the 
evidence. 

1661
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,680
So he's contradicted himself in 
there. 

1662
01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,080
We're supposed to believe one, 
not the other. 

1663
01:27:58,320 --> 01:27:59,840
Anyway, that's that's the way 
confessions work. 

1664
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:03,320
People will lie until they don't
lie, unless they lie to make you

1665
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,880
leave the room and stop 
badgering them. 

1666
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,280
The interviewing agents reminded
the the defendant that lying to 

1667
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:11,640
them was an additional criminal 
offense and asked the defendant 

1668
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:14,640
again whether the individual, 
whether he was the individual on

1669
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:17,880
the surveillance video. 
At this time, the defendant 

1670
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,960
paused for approximately 15 
seconds, placed his head down on

1671
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:26,920
the table, and answered yes. 
See this was the the bad 50s B 

1672
01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:29,240
movie that I saw. 
This is exactly how this is 

1673
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:30,520
taught at the Academy, by the 
way. 

1674
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,560
You're supposed to basically 
tell them we know this was you, 

1675
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:34,360
and then they're supposed to 
just give up. 

1676
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:36,960
That's what the role players do.
They give up and they say, yeah,

1677
01:28:37,480 --> 01:28:39,720
it was me. 
I've been lying for the last two

1678
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:44,000
hours and and I've been telling 
you what you want to hear now, 

1679
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:46,120
so I'm going to tell you the 
rest of it. 

1680
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,600
After the defendant's admission,
the interviewing agents 

1681
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,680
explained to him that they could
either continue to discuss his 

1682
01:28:50,680 --> 01:28:53,040
actions on January the 5th or 
they could stop the interview 

1683
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,680
altogether and transport the 
defendant to court for his 

1684
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:57,520
initial appearance. 
This is where it gets real 

1685
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:58,640
weird. 
Does he understand what's going 

1686
01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:01,240
on? 
The the the agents explained 

1687
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,760
what initial appearance is and 
that if the defendant continued 

1688
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,560
the interview, he would have to 
appear in court the following 

1689
01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:06,920
day. 
So there's your delay. 

1690
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,760
The defendant asked for times to
process things and the agent 

1691
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:11,600
stepped out of the interview 
room for approximately 20 

1692
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,040
minutes and they let him steal 
on it. 

1693
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,920
When they returned, the 
defendant expressed his interest

1694
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:20,680
in continuing the interview and 
executed a written waiver to 

1695
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,040
delay his presentment to the 
court until the next day. 

1696
01:29:25,480 --> 01:29:27,640
We need obviously the competency
hearing is going to be really 

1697
01:29:27,640 --> 01:29:29,600
important here. 
I want people to understand 

1698
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:30,760
exactly what we are dealing 
with. 

1699
01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,480
Over the next approximately 1 
1/2 hours, the defendant walked 

1700
01:29:33,480 --> 01:29:35,840
the interviewing agents in 
detail through his construction,

1701
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,480
transportation, and planting of 
the pipe bombs. 

1702
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,760
The defendant explained that he 
made the black powder in the 

1703
01:29:40,760 --> 01:29:43,840
devices using charcoal Lily 
Miller sulfur dust, which they 

1704
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:47,080
show the Amazon which he bought 
in 2018, folks when he was mad 

1705
01:29:47,080 --> 01:29:50,360
about the election of 2020, and 
potassium nitrate that he 

1706
01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:52,720
purchased from Lowe's. 
The defendant mixed these 

1707
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:55,640
ingredients in a Pyrex bowl and 
used a spoon or maybe a 

1708
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:59,560
measuring cup to pour the black 
powder into the devices. 

1709
01:30:00,080 --> 01:30:02,040
According to the defendant, he 
learned to make the black powder

1710
01:30:02,040 --> 01:30:04,920
from a video game that listed 
the ingredients and he also 

1711
01:30:04,920 --> 01:30:08,040
viewed various science related 
videos on YouTube that assisted 

1712
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,680
him in creating devices. 
What I do not see on here is the

1713
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:12,720
the Google warrant that shows 
that they actually have this 

1714
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:15,280
information and they've had time
to get it. 

1715
01:30:17,720 --> 01:30:18,800
They've had what, two months 
now? 

1716
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:23,960
Yeah, I'm. 
I'm flabbergasted by what's not 

1717
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:27,600
in here, as usual. 
Actually, it's not even two 

1718
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,360
months, but. 
Well, they started sometime in 

1719
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,600
November and now we're here at 
the end of of December, which 

1720
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:35,560
means they had November and 
December to be able to do these 

1721
01:30:35,560 --> 01:30:39,240
warrants, you know, before and 
after the the arrest, they still

1722
01:30:39,240 --> 01:30:40,520
should have been able to go 
after the stuff. 

1723
01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:41,960
And they got this confession on 
the 4th. 

1724
01:30:42,680 --> 01:30:45,600
So theoretically they've had 25 
days to pull this from Google. 

1725
01:30:46,920 --> 01:30:49,080
Regarding the construction of 
the devices, the defendant 

1726
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:53,480
explained that he used a hand 
drill and bit to drill the end 

1727
01:30:53,480 --> 01:30:56,840
caps on the device that use 
pliers to crimp the alligator 

1728
01:30:56,840 --> 01:30:59,560
clips and use kitchen timers 
rather than alarm clock timers 

1729
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:01,560
because these kitchen timers 
were easier to use. 

1730
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:06,360
Let's talk a little bit about 
drilling steel with a hand 

1731
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:08,000
drill. 
You ever done this, Steve? 

1732
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,720
I'm going to let you filibuster 
on that one while I take a short

1733
01:31:10,720 --> 01:31:11,880
break. 
Please do. 

1734
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,960
All right folks, real simple 
here. 

1735
01:31:14,440 --> 01:31:17,480
If you've ever tried to drill 
anything with a hand drill 

1736
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:23,160
that's made of metal, you will 
find yourself in the weirdest 

1737
01:31:23,160 --> 01:31:25,920
position because it will walk. 
The bit will walk. 

1738
01:31:26,120 --> 01:31:31,440
Unless you have a very, very 
tiny, you know, pilot pointed 

1739
01:31:32,120 --> 01:31:35,160
carbide drill bit, you are not 
going to be able to do this sort

1740
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,280
of thing. 
And what we saw in the pictures 

1741
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,800
that they showed of those bombs 
is that we don't have a 

1742
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,960
scrolling walking drill bit that
caused the problem. 

1743
01:31:43,960 --> 01:31:46,800
That's problem #1 does he have a
vise to be able to hold this? 

1744
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,520
Was he holding this with his 
hand and then potentially 

1745
01:31:48,520 --> 01:31:50,640
putting holes in his hand? 
Because that's what happens. 

1746
01:31:50,640 --> 01:31:52,800
Ask me how I know. 
When you hold a piece of steel 

1747
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:55,280
with your hand and try to do a 
hand drill into it, you've got 

1748
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:59,280
to put a ton of pressure behind 
it so it actually bites in in 

1749
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:01,160
the 1st place. 
And then the second thing is, is

1750
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:03,560
that if it doesn't walk, that 
means that you had it firmly 

1751
01:32:03,560 --> 01:32:05,960
help what they call the work. 
You have to hold that end cap. 

1752
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:08,040
These are rounded end caps that 
have a curve. 

1753
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,480
So they're already going to need
to go somewhere if you don't 

1754
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:13,200
have a jig to hold it or a punch
to make a starter hole. 

1755
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:14,840
So you have something to to get 
going. 

1756
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:16,720
There's no way that this got 
done. 

1757
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:18,520
And I'm guaranteeing that this 
kid probably doesn't have the 

1758
01:32:18,520 --> 01:32:20,800
upper body strength there or 
even the experience to do this. 

1759
01:32:21,000 --> 01:32:24,400
I've drilled tons of metal for, 
no, you know, I'm always making 

1760
01:32:24,400 --> 01:32:26,200
holes and stuff and then putting
screws in where they don't 

1761
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,400
belong and holding things 
together that I broke, stuff 

1762
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:31,400
like that. 
The idea that he used a hand 

1763
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:34,400
drill, this is the most basic 
like explanation of something 

1764
01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:36,560
that doesn't make sense if these
agents had ever done any work 

1765
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,160
with steel. 
All right, I'm going to keep 

1766
01:32:39,160 --> 01:32:41,360
reading here. 
When he asked where he kept the 

1767
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:43,680
bomb making materials, the 
defendant explained that he hid 

1768
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:45,960
them in a closet inside his home
so they would not be found by a 

1769
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:48,320
family member. 
The defendant stated that he 

1770
01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:50,760
assembled these devices in the 
hours before he drove to 

1771
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:53,320
Washington, DC on January the 
5th, that he cleaned the devices

1772
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,400
with disinfectant wipes, and 
eventually he admitted that he 

1773
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,960
did not go to January 6th to 
attend to protest at all, but in

1774
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:00,520
fact traveled there to plant the
devices. 

1775
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:04,840
He transported his devices on 
January 5th inside of a shoe box

1776
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,280
in the back of his Nissan 
Sentra. 

1777
01:33:06,280 --> 01:33:08,360
He wore a mask and a hood to 
avoid identification. 

1778
01:33:08,360 --> 01:33:10,160
He wore gloves to avoid leaving 
fingerprints. 

1779
01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:13,680
The defendant arrived in the 
city, parked his car on D St. 

1780
01:33:13,680 --> 01:33:18,880
SE between 2nd and 3rd and near 
Folger Park and Providence Park.

1781
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,640
I think they're talking about 
Providence, which is also looks 

1782
01:33:20,640 --> 01:33:24,640
like Garfield Park. 
All right, this is really wild. 

1783
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:28,720
So he tells you where he parked.
So we have to believe that 

1784
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:32,560
that's where he went. 
If this is correct, and that 

1785
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:35,200
means that he was so low, that's
also part of it. 

1786
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:37,000
Here, it's implied that he was 
by himself. 

1787
01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,000
The defendant placed one of the 
devices in his backpack. 

1788
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:42,720
He exited his car, and he walked
towards the DNC. 

1789
01:33:42,880 --> 01:33:45,400
He set the timer on the first 
device, a maximum amount which 

1790
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,960
was 60 minutes, and placed that 
device near the DNC. 

1791
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:51,520
The defendant then returned to 
his car, uh oh, retrieved the 

1792
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:54,360
second device and placed it in 
his backpack and walked to the 

1793
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:57,400
RNC where he set the timer for 
60 minutes and planted the 

1794
01:33:57,400 --> 01:34:00,600
device. 
The defendant explained that he 

1795
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:04,520
had to use Google Maps to look 
up these locations in advance, 

1796
01:34:04,680 --> 01:34:06,640
but apparently didn't need them 
in the moment. 

1797
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,080
A place that he'd never really 
been in was walking in the dark.

1798
01:34:09,080 --> 01:34:11,240
If you guys have ever tried to 
walk in the dark in Washington 

1799
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:13,240
DC and you're not familiar with 
the area because some of the 

1800
01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:16,800
streets don't actually follow 
like a grid, I think we're going

1801
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,680
to run up here real quick and 
I'm going to show you the map 

1802
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:20,760
that we're talking about. 
Again, just so we're on the same

1803
01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:22,680
page. 
You've got the grid streets here

1804
01:34:22,680 --> 01:34:25,800
like South Capitol Street and 
and 2nd St. 

1805
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:27,520
They go North and South almost 
perfectly. 

1806
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,840
You've got the the edges here of
C St. 

1807
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,760
SE, which is on the North End. 
You got D Street and then you've

1808
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,520
also got E Street. 
But you have all these illogical

1809
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,160
little moments that happen 
inside of this little area. 

1810
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,800
Look at this folks we're talking
about. 

1811
01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:45,000
We're talking about streets that
cut randomly across the area 

1812
01:34:45,000 --> 01:34:47,160
that you're in. 
Here's North Carolina, you've 

1813
01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:49,280
got New Jersey, they come in on 
angles. 

1814
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:51,480
You've got Canal Street, which 
goes into Washington Ave. 

1815
01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:54,880
SW that comes in at an angle. 
You've got this bizarre little 

1816
01:34:54,880 --> 01:34:57,880
St. here that runs behind the 
DNC that starts off going east, 

1817
01:34:57,880 --> 01:35:03,240
West, but ends up going 
basically N northwest, or what 

1818
01:35:03,240 --> 01:35:06,360
is that? 
North, East and southwest, it 

1819
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:09,360
has a big bend in it. 
There's these little alleyways 

1820
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,920
that take random turns. 
If you guys can see, you have to

1821
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:14,240
probably turn the contrast up on
your phone or on your screen. 

1822
01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:16,400
But there's all kinds of these 
little inlets that are 

1823
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:18,760
completely illogical. 
You did that from memory, having

1824
01:35:18,760 --> 01:35:21,840
never been there. 
All of that. 

1825
01:35:22,360 --> 01:35:25,560
I, I, I strain to understand 
what's going on with this story.

1826
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,600
We're going to continue back 
down. 

1827
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,800
We're about most the way through
what he's talking about. 

1828
01:35:31,600 --> 01:35:33,720
He said that he used Google Maps
to look at the locations in 

1829
01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:36,280
advance and apparently memorized
the map, and then after planting

1830
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,480
the devices, he left the car, 
picked up food from a restaurant

1831
01:35:39,480 --> 01:35:41,000
in Virginia, and he returned 
home. 

1832
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:42,200
That part might actually be 
true. 

1833
01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:46,240
Kyle, if he used Google Maps, 
there was one thing that's not 

1834
01:35:46,280 --> 01:35:50,680
on the Google Maps is where the 
blind spots are in the United 

1835
01:35:50,680 --> 01:35:55,720
States Capitol Police television
system or camera system, right? 

1836
01:35:56,120 --> 01:36:02,000
Because this person appears out 
of nowhere at 7:34 PM. 

1837
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,000
Parked a vehicle where where it 
couldn't be identified even by 

1838
01:36:05,000 --> 01:36:06,640
the FBI when they went and got 
them right. 

1839
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:12,520
Absolute knowledge of the blind 
spots shows up a block from the 

1840
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:17,280
Fairchild Building, which is a 
Capitol Police facility, storage

1841
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:23,800
and and otherwise. 
And then magically and a 

1842
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:28,320
completely other sector at 
Folger Park disappears for 8 

1843
01:36:28,320 --> 01:36:34,200
minutes and then magically 
disappears out a secret gate in 

1844
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:38,800
that alleyway into the church 
garden, St. 

1845
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:42,800
Peter's church garden. 
Oh, you got that pulled up I. 

1846
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Got a better map. 
I went and pulled it while we 

1847
01:36:44,200 --> 01:36:46,320
were talking here. 
So this is the the close map. 

1848
01:36:46,320 --> 01:36:49,280
They the northern edge up here 
is this D street, these two 

1849
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,440
green dots you guys will see 
there's the RNC and there's the 

1850
01:36:52,440 --> 01:36:54,560
DNC. 
So let's make this most of the 

1851
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:56,120
screen so we can see what's 
going on here. 

1852
01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:58,640
And those are two parks. 
There's Providence Park and 

1853
01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:00,840
Folgers Park. 
OK, let's let's assume for a 

1854
01:37:00,840 --> 01:37:05,160
moment, let's go back to Folger 
there, all right, and make sure 

1855
01:37:05,160 --> 01:37:06,960
everybody can see where Folger 
is. 

1856
01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:07,960
Let's get. 
Closer. 

1857
01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:09,680
Let's get closer. 
And this is the RNC part of the 

1858
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:14,800
loop, so there we go. 
OK, now let's identify where the

1859
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:17,120
RNC is. 
It's up here on the green dot. 

1860
01:37:17,560 --> 01:37:24,960
OK, now if you will look at that
alleyway that runs in the 

1861
01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:29,280
middle, right behind the RNC, 
runs all the way to the back. 

1862
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:30,800
Just drag. 
Yeah, there you go. 

1863
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:32,520
You got the cursor going in the 
right direction. 

1864
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:33,800
This Rumsey. 
Court. 

1865
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:36,720
Drag that cursor along Rumsey 
all the way. 

1866
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:38,920
Keep going to the right, to the 
right, to the right to the 

1867
01:37:38,920 --> 01:37:41,840
right. 
Go around that that that green 

1868
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:45,320
area right there and keep going.
Now go up where those cars are. 

1869
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:47,160
OK. 
All right. 

1870
01:37:47,160 --> 01:37:50,880
And then there's a secret gate 
right back here where it is 

1871
01:37:50,880 --> 01:37:53,440
believed that the bomber 
disappeared through into that 

1872
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:55,240
little garden. 
Now you've got the garden 

1873
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,400
Perfect. 
Got it absolutely nailed. 

1874
01:37:59,880 --> 01:38:00,840
This looks like a camera. 
Line. 

1875
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:02,920
Yeah. 
And how do you see that from a 

1876
01:38:03,000 --> 01:38:04,520
from Google Earth? 
He doesn't look like you can get

1877
01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,600
through here. 
No, he didn't do this on Google.

1878
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,360
He didn't know that. 
That gate, the gates got a 

1879
01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:10,280
hidden latch on it. 
I've been through that gate 

1880
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:14,160
twice myself. 
This is what we're looking at 

1881
01:38:14,360 --> 01:38:17,240
planning out and apparently the 
car was parked at somewhere like

1882
01:38:17,240 --> 01:38:20,280
right around here, 2nd St. and D
Street, so right in this little 

1883
01:38:20,280 --> 01:38:25,520
area. 
OK, So either under this cover 

1884
01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:27,600
here or somewhere over on this 
side, one of these sides here, 

1885
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:29,320
that's the claim where the where
the vehicle was. 

1886
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:31,560
Yeah. 
And I've, I've stood on these 

1887
01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:35,240
corners and that that one in the
one up there on C St. 

1888
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:37,680
A crop behind from behind the 
Madison building. 

1889
01:38:38,160 --> 01:38:41,080
I've stood on those corners and 
looking, I mean looking for 

1890
01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:48,520
cameras, and it's absolutely 
without significant amount of 

1891
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:52,360
foreknowledge or plea planning 
that this kid would know where 

1892
01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:54,760
those blind spots were. 
Here's what I'm also pointing 

1893
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,840
out to people to understand. 
Look, you got these cut 

1894
01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:58,520
insurance, this, this alley 
here. 

1895
01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:00,920
I mean, this one's coming in on 
a 45° angle. 

1896
01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:03,200
So again, not just a perfect 
grid, same story here. 

1897
01:39:03,200 --> 01:39:05,800
This one actually curves and 
then changes angle multiple 

1898
01:39:05,800 --> 01:39:07,880
times. 
It's so easy to get turned 

1899
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,120
around. 
One of the easiest things to do 

1900
01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,280
is to know that you've got 
basically like my next right is 

1901
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,960
going to be taking me north to 
here, my next left is going to 

1902
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:16,760
take me South, etcetera. 
If you want to do it on a grid, 

1903
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,720
that's really easy to do if all 
of your streets line up and 

1904
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:20,840
grids and your alleys do that. 
But that is not how Washington 

1905
01:39:20,840 --> 01:39:23,480
DC is laid out. 
And even these parks have cross 

1906
01:39:23,480 --> 01:39:25,040
angles here that are going to 
take you. 

1907
01:39:25,080 --> 01:39:26,680
And all of those things are 
tricky in the dark. 

1908
01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,440
Some of these look at the circle
and fold your park. 

1909
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:31,400
I mean you end up on one of 
these where you continue into 

1910
01:39:31,400 --> 01:39:32,920
the park and then you end up on 
a circle. 

1911
01:39:33,480 --> 01:39:35,880
You're not doing that in an 8 
minute like direct. 

1912
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:39,080
This is basically where we see 
like right around here, am I 

1913
01:39:39,080 --> 01:39:40,520
right? 
It was where the the cameras 

1914
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,760
disappear and so from down here 
on East St. and roughly. 

1915
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:49,000
Canal Street or New Jersey? 
Like out here, this is where 

1916
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,080
there's a disappearance and so 
there's a walk that's basically 

1917
01:39:51,080 --> 01:39:53,640
a straight line shot over here 
to where the car would have had 

1918
01:39:53,640 --> 01:39:55,240
to have been, which we believe 
probably happened. 

1919
01:39:55,440 --> 01:39:58,080
And then did, you know, 
appearing back on camera to to 

1920
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:01,080
run on 2nd and and C St. to go 
drop the RNC type bomb. 

1921
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:04,680
All of these things are really 
well squared away. 

1922
01:40:04,680 --> 01:40:06,440
And that's not what this guy is 
explaining. 

1923
01:40:06,440 --> 01:40:08,360
Anyway, we're going to go back 
into the the actual document 

1924
01:40:08,360 --> 01:40:13,640
here as we continue on because. 
You you can't make up like he he

1925
01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:14,880
was mad about the political 
parties. 

1926
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,040
But apparently we're going to 
ignore the fact that there were 

1927
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:21,000
two previous targets or at least
two previous dwelling moments 

1928
01:40:21,400 --> 01:40:25,360
where the hooded figure stopped 
the the Bush outside of the 

1929
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,040
Congressional Black Caucus 
Institute not mentioned at all 

1930
01:40:28,960 --> 01:40:31,400
nor the Congressional boarding 
house where there was obviously 

1931
01:40:31,400 --> 01:40:34,360
some time spent. 
How do we know about the 

1932
01:40:34,360 --> 01:40:36,480
Congressional boarding house? 
What does that look like, Steve 

1933
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:39,440
on video that that we think that
was an initial target. 

1934
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:47,400
It's a it's a pause. 
And on a Yep, you have to look 

1935
01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:51,040
at the way the the behavior of 
that bomber was at the other 

1936
01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,600
locations. 
It was, it was a pause, a very 

1937
01:40:53,600 --> 01:41:01,600
interesting place to the bomber.
And it seemed to be like the 

1938
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:05,280
bomber was reaching and maybe, 
possibly waiting to, you know, 

1939
01:41:05,440 --> 01:41:08,440
do something specific there at 
the correctional boarding house.

1940
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:11,160
And then a couple of cop cars 
came around the corner and 

1941
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:12,800
changed. 
Changed. 

1942
01:41:13,440 --> 01:41:16,880
Changed the momentum at that 
moment. 

1943
01:41:17,200 --> 01:41:23,400
Now, of course, that didn't 
happen over at the CBCCBCI Bush.

1944
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,960
There was no interruption by any
outside force, by any flashing 

1945
01:41:27,960 --> 01:41:30,640
lights, the cherries and berries
of a, you know, Capitol Police 

1946
01:41:30,640 --> 01:41:33,960
car or a couple of cars making a
traffic stop or whatever it was 

1947
01:41:34,200 --> 01:41:37,000
right at the other place. 
Now, we also have the other 

1948
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:41,680
curiosity in that our POI, too, 
also took photos of that 

1949
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:44,600
congressional boarding house. 
So there's that. 

1950
01:41:46,280 --> 01:41:49,240
One of that one of those open 
questions yet to be answered. 

1951
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:52,240
Just just people wondering how 
this works. 

1952
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,960
I'll put this back up on the 
screen for a second here as we 

1953
01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:57,160
kind of consider it. 
But this is the video, guys, 

1954
01:41:57,160 --> 01:41:59,200
that if you have not seen it 
before, This is the hooded 

1955
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:02,560
figure person of interest one 
which the FBI has claimed is 

1956
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:06,880
Brian Cole Junior. 
Making an interesting stop at 

1957
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,880
this Bush outside of the 
Congressional Black Caucus 

1958
01:42:08,880 --> 01:42:10,760
Institute just for the benefit 
of people who are new to the 

1959
01:42:10,760 --> 01:42:12,760
channels or that are new to the 
podcast. 

1960
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:16,600
This is what Baker and The Blaze
and Armitas have revealed 

1961
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:18,440
previously. 
You're seeing a daylight image 

1962
01:42:18,440 --> 01:42:19,720
up on the top right with an 
arrow. 

1963
01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:22,640
You're seeing an inset, and then
on the left is magnified. 

1964
01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,960
I actually think the picture on 
the right is the easiest to see.

1965
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:27,560
There's a circle that's kind of 
like lightened up where the 

1966
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:30,440
hooded figure sits down and 
you'll see that in just one 

1967
01:42:30,440 --> 01:42:32,800
moment. 
But sits down at a Bush outside 

1968
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,880
the Congressional Black Caucus 
Institute and appears to be 

1969
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:40,920
going into the backpack, appears
to extract something from the 

1970
01:42:40,920 --> 01:42:43,760
backpack and then place it under
the Bush and then retrieve it 

1971
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:45,360
from the Bush. 
Whether something was broken or 

1972
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:46,560
whatever else was going on 
there. 

1973
01:42:46,560 --> 01:42:48,440
There was obviously some sort of
like little moment. 

1974
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,280
You can see we've seen probably 
what, 2 cars so far, Steve, that

1975
01:42:51,520 --> 01:42:57,320
have driven by not high, high 
volume traffic going on in 

1976
01:42:57,320 --> 01:42:58,880
Washington, DC at this exact 
moment. 

1977
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:02,120
Just there's your third car. 
None of them are blue Nissan 

1978
01:43:02,120 --> 01:43:05,720
Sentras, by the way, just as 
we're looking here. 

1979
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:07,800
We just want to know if that's a
really common car in Washington,

1980
01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:08,840
DC. 
So you can see that there's 

1981
01:43:08,840 --> 01:43:11,760
still this thing. 
This is 77 seconds of placing 

1982
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,920
something underneath and kind of
just screwing around underneath 

1983
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:18,080
this Bush. 
I will. 

1984
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:19,840
I'll make sure you guys can can 
see this. 

1985
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:21,600
Again, this is in Steve Baker's 
timeline. 

1986
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:24,360
This has been in mine as well. 
Then you've got the hooded 

1987
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:29,200
figure getting ready to stand up
and walks away off camera to the

1988
01:43:29,200 --> 01:43:32,840
right into the darkness. 
Then you Fast forward to the 

1989
01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,760
finding of pipe bomb #2 which we
believe was placed first 

1990
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:40,920
according to the the videos. 
And here's your capital police 

1991
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,040
officers, surveillance units, 
the counter surveillance guys 

1992
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:45,720
looking underneath that Bush 
they're dwelling right now. 

1993
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,480
They are directly above the 
flashing lights of the police 

1994
01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:51,520
car. 
And the they are just off to the

1995
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:54,640
left of that signage which has 
the, the traffic light on them. 

1996
01:43:54,920 --> 01:43:56,720
You can see there's people that 
are meandering around. 

1997
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,600
Those look like, are those law 
enforcement do we think? 

1998
01:44:00,360 --> 01:44:07,320
OK. 
Yeah, yeah, where the hell is 

1999
01:44:07,320 --> 01:44:13,000
this thing? 
And so here they're going to 

2000
01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:15,320
walk past the Bush again and 
you're going to see a stop and A

2001
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:17,960
and a a full hip turn. 
And there's an inset that's 

2002
01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:19,600
that's magnified. 
But you see the Capitol Police 

2003
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,240
officers actually look 
underneath that Bush a little 

2004
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,280
bit more aggressively and then 
continue on. 

2005
01:44:23,280 --> 01:44:27,160
And then they found the Bush and
they found it straight away in 

2006
01:44:27,160 --> 01:44:29,520
just a few minutes afterwards 
next to where it was eventually 

2007
01:44:29,520 --> 01:44:33,520
found outside that that DNC 
bench that was sitting out there

2008
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:37,000
in the area. 
So the counter surveillance 

2009
01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:42,560
officers in their most recent 
interview, their answer for why 

2010
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:48,640
the entire 12 minutes or so that
they're on the lookout for, you 

2011
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,120
know, they're looking for 
devices, right? 

2012
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:53,280
This is this is what we've been 
told for years, is that they 

2013
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:57,320
were deployed specifically, 
there was three teams of two 

2014
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:01,360
that were out to look for 
additional devices after the RNC

2015
01:45:01,480 --> 01:45:07,160
bomb was found. 
But what it turns out is that 

2016
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:12,120
after we revealed all the video 
of their entire route, we never 

2017
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,760
see them looking for anything. 
In fact, most of the time 

2018
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:17,160
they're just looking at their 
phones as you're walking down 

2019
01:45:17,160 --> 01:45:20,920
the street, right? 
So they're not looking in trash 

2020
01:45:20,920 --> 01:45:23,520
cans, they're not looking under 
other bushes, they're not 

2021
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:25,880
looking behind cars, they're not
looking anywhere. 

2022
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,400
They never look. 
Well, they had an explanation 

2023
01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:30,840
for that. 
They actually said that their 

2024
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:35,200
explanation for why they weren't
looking under things and behind 

2025
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:40,120
things was because they were 
actually looking for humans with

2026
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:44,320
handheld detonators. 
Now, Steve, you're a bright guy.

2027
01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:46,960
I like to think I'm a pretty 
capable observer. 

2028
01:45:47,040 --> 01:45:51,080
Whenever I find someone who's 
dropped pipe bombs using a a 

2029
01:45:51,120 --> 01:45:54,920
kitchen dial timer, I 
immediately assume that there 

2030
01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:58,040
also might be some sort of 
command detonation capabilities.

2031
01:45:58,040 --> 01:46:00,320
Maybe that's because I had a 
little bit of demo training, 

2032
01:46:00,320 --> 01:46:02,960
which Steve Deantuano decided to
call out in congressional 

2033
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:05,880
testimony in 2023. 
But I have actually seen what 

2034
01:46:05,880 --> 01:46:09,120
the difference is between a 
remote detonation, a command 

2035
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:11,360
wire detonation, and then these 
sort of like completely 

2036
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,720
illogical timer based 
detonations, which you had 60 

2037
01:46:14,720 --> 01:46:17,800
minutes but didn't go off. 
But we're totally viable if you 

2038
01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:20,000
believe the FB is case. 
I want to keep reading this doc 

2039
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:23,440
here that I mean, that's wildly 
bizarre too, as you said. 

2040
01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:26,040
What did you say was the most 
coached theatrical kind of 

2041
01:46:26,040 --> 01:46:28,320
interview? 
Yeah, they said the the the 

2042
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:32,320
investigator actually said that 
it was to the point of 

2043
01:46:32,400 --> 01:46:34,040
overacting. 
Perfect. 

2044
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,840
That's overacting if you say 
that I'm looking for somebody 

2045
01:46:36,840 --> 01:46:39,520
with a detonator in their hand 
when we're looking at bombs that

2046
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:42,520
have kitchen timers on them. 
All right. 

2047
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:44,400
According to the defendant, he 
was not really thinking how 

2048
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,720
people would react when the 
bombs detonated, although he 

2049
01:46:46,720 --> 01:46:50,320
hoped it would be news about it.
The defendant then stated he had

2050
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,680
not tested the devices before 
planting them, claimed that he 

2051
01:46:52,680 --> 01:46:54,680
learned that the devices did not
detonate, and he was, quote, 

2052
01:46:54,680 --> 01:46:57,920
pretty relieved and asserted 
that he placed the devices at 

2053
01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,440
night because he didn't want to 
kill people. 

2054
01:46:59,680 --> 01:47:01,760
After seeing himself on the 
news, the defendant stated that 

2055
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:04,440
he discarded all the bomb making
materials at a nearby dump. 

2056
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,480
But then apparently we're 
supposed to also forget that he 

2057
01:47:07,480 --> 01:47:10,600
kept buying fucking bomb making 
materials for the next year and 

2058
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:13,480
a half. 
So there's that. 

2059
01:47:13,880 --> 01:47:16,680
All right, Pope, listen, I'm 
just telling you what the FBI 

2060
01:47:16,680 --> 01:47:19,480
claims in there or what the what
the DOJ is claiming. 

2061
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:22,360
After seeing himself on the 
news, the defendant stated that 

2062
01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,280
he discarded all the bomb making
materials he had at a nearby 

2063
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,640
dump. 
I wonder if they ever went and 

2064
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:28,760
unearthed that. 
You'd imagine they would do 

2065
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:30,800
that. 
And then we go back to the fact 

2066
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,960
that, Oh yeah, he actually was 
still buying them three weeks 

2067
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:36,240
later. 
When was this on the news? 

2068
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,600
Immediately. 
But in January he was buying 

2069
01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:43,200
more kitchen tibers in January 
and March and in October of 21 

2070
01:47:43,200 --> 01:47:47,520
he's buying more pipe in. 
Let's see, this is April and 

2071
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:51,600
June and June and June and 
October, he's buying more end 

2072
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:55,280
caps. 
And in March and March and 

2073
01:47:55,920 --> 01:47:58,680
August he's buying additional 
end caps. 

2074
01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,680
And he's buying more wire in 
June, and he's buying more steel

2075
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,480
wool in January. 
And he's got more alligator 

2076
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:07,400
clips from Home Depot in 
January, 3 weeks after the 

2077
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:09,240
freaking bombing. 
But he threw it all away. 

2078
01:48:09,240 --> 01:48:11,280
He threw all of his bomb making 
stuff away in the dump, but then

2079
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,880
he also went and bought more of 
it just so he could have more of

2080
01:48:13,880 --> 01:48:16,880
it. 
Well, there were, there were 

2081
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,280
going to be additional elections
coming up, so. 

2082
01:48:20,520 --> 01:48:22,720
He probably already knew the, 
the he was probably excited he 

2083
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,160
was going to make actually some 
explosives that were celebratory

2084
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:28,240
when Donald Trump won in 2024, 
since he's such a big Trump guy.

2085
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:30,440
All right, so the defendant 
stated he didn't tell anyone 

2086
01:48:30,440 --> 01:48:33,160
about the pipe bombs before 
planting them, nor in the years 

2087
01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:35,160
since. 
And although the defendant 

2088
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:38,120
denied building additional 
explosive devices, he admitted 

2089
01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:41,720
that sometime after he built the
the pipe bombs used in this 

2090
01:48:41,720 --> 01:48:44,160
case, he purchased beakers and 
then conducted another science 

2091
01:48:44,160 --> 01:48:47,520
experiment to create potassium 
chlorate, which he claimed was 

2092
01:48:47,520 --> 01:48:50,520
unrelated to bomb making but is 
generally used for making 

2093
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:52,040
explosives and fireworks and so 
on. 

2094
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,440
When the interviewing agents 
returned to the defendant's 

2095
01:48:57,440 --> 01:49:00,800
motive, he explained that quote,
something just snapped after 

2096
01:49:00,800 --> 01:49:03,840
quote watching everything, just 
everything getting worse. 

2097
01:49:06,000 --> 01:49:08,480
The defendant wanted to do 
something quote to the parties 

2098
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:13,240
because they were in charge. 
When asked why he placed the 

2099
01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,240
devices at the RNC and the DNC, 
the defendant responded. 

2100
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:19,960
I don't, I really don't like 
either party at this point. 

2101
01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:23,440
Then the defendant pointed out 
that the idea to use pipe bombs 

2102
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:24,880
came from his interest in 
history. 

2103
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:27,440
This is my favorite claim in the
entire document. 

2104
01:49:27,440 --> 01:49:29,160
Folks. 
Market page 17. 

2105
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:32,240
The defendant also explained 
that the idea to use pipe bombs 

2106
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:36,040
came from his interest in 
history, specifically Baker. 

2107
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:38,520
You know, this is something that
is near and dear to all people's

2108
01:49:38,520 --> 01:49:41,360
hearts who are Black bronies 
living in Northern Virginia, 

2109
01:49:41,520 --> 01:49:43,480
specifically the Troubles in 
Ireland. 

2110
01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,960
He was mostly interested in the 
plight of the Irish Republican 

2111
01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:52,280
Army and Sinn Fein in Ireland as
they fought against the British 

2112
01:49:52,280 --> 01:49:56,720
monarchy in Northern Ireland in 
the 70s and 80s. 

2113
01:49:57,960 --> 01:49:59,480
That's immediately where I would
have gone too. 

2114
01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:00,400
I would have been like, you know
what? 

2115
01:50:00,720 --> 01:50:02,920
When I start thinking about 
what's going on today, I start 

2116
01:50:02,920 --> 01:50:08,400
thinking about can we have, can 
we have like an IRA in America 

2117
01:50:09,040 --> 01:50:12,080
and maybe the troubles. 
Maybe he's been through his own 

2118
01:50:12,080 --> 01:50:13,920
potato famine. 
Maybe he has. 

2119
01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:18,960
Maybe he really does believe 
that there should be no kings, 

2120
01:50:18,960 --> 01:50:22,400
and so he's actually bought that
from the left in the future. 

2121
01:50:22,760 --> 01:50:25,120
Right. 
Maybe he's commiserated with the

2122
01:50:25,160 --> 01:50:28,960
H block. 
You know, hunger fast. 

2123
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:34,040
You know, fasters that fasted 
themselves to death in those 

2124
01:50:34,040 --> 01:50:36,240
British prisons. 
Of course that was that happened

2125
01:50:36,240 --> 01:50:37,880
before he was born, so he 
wouldn't. 

2126
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:40,200
When I think about the troubles 
in Ireland, I often think about 

2127
01:50:40,200 --> 01:50:41,960
pipe bombs too. 
I don't think about any of the 

2128
01:50:41,960 --> 01:50:44,840
other things that were used. 
No, I just, I immediately go to 

2129
01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:51,840
pipe bombs and ski masks and, 
and orange and and white and and

2130
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:55,360
green and. 
OK, so that's the story guys. 

2131
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,240
Page 17 of 23. 
The defendant explained that he,

2132
01:50:58,520 --> 01:51:00,720
he came up with the idea of pipe
bombs because of the troubles in

2133
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:02,480
Ireland. 
And if you believe that I've got

2134
01:51:02,480 --> 01:51:04,440
some other things I'd like to 
sell you, please go to our merch

2135
01:51:04,440 --> 01:51:06,400
store. 
It's the dash dependables.com. 

2136
01:51:06,720 --> 01:51:08,560
Just buy anything. 
You'll love it because you'll 

2137
01:51:08,560 --> 01:51:10,600
love anything 'cause you just 
love slop. 

2138
01:51:11,000 --> 01:51:13,080
The defendant denied that his 
actions were directed towards 

2139
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,360
Congress or the proceedings that
were going to take place on 

2140
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:17,080
January the 6th. 
So this was not related to 

2141
01:51:17,080 --> 01:51:19,960
January 6th at all. 
That's helpful. 

2142
01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:22,960
OK, then they make the argument 
that he poses a risk to the 

2143
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:26,080
community if you believe any of 
the bullshit that they slung in 

2144
01:51:26,080 --> 01:51:30,400
this particular document. 
All of this stuff is so wild to 

2145
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:32,760
me. 
Why do you think that they did 

2146
01:51:32,760 --> 01:51:40,120
not ask him why he sat down for 
77 seconds at the CBC under that

2147
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:41,200
Bush? 
Well, that would completely 

2148
01:51:41,200 --> 01:51:45,200
destroy our case. 
Obviously, Steve, we want to 

2149
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:48,520
have somebody just agree to the 
nonsense, but we don't want 

2150
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:51,000
someone to. 
This is where it gets even 

2151
01:51:51,000 --> 01:51:52,120
worse. 
So this is the nature and 

2152
01:51:52,120 --> 01:51:53,480
circumstances of the charge 
defenses. 

2153
01:51:53,480 --> 01:51:55,960
Again, the government is 
basically saying that we don't 

2154
01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:57,800
know how he did this or why he 
did this. 

2155
01:51:58,360 --> 01:52:01,800
So what we love is that he told 
us, and that's good enough for 

2156
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:04,800
us because everyone knows that a
confession that's been, you 

2157
01:52:04,800 --> 01:52:08,400
know, issued after two hours of 
of denials by a guy who's either

2158
01:52:08,400 --> 01:52:12,160
developmentally delayed or is, 
you know, autistic or has some 

2159
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,280
sort of developmental issues, 
that's going to be 100% 

2160
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,360
airtight. 
The defendant may have reached a

2161
01:52:17,360 --> 01:52:20,040
psychological breaking point. 
His crimes were anything but 

2162
01:52:20,040 --> 01:52:23,160
impulsive. 
Well, he told you something just

2163
01:52:23,160 --> 01:52:24,640
snapped. 
But yeah, they were anything but

2164
01:52:24,640 --> 01:52:27,200
impulsive because apparently he 
was doing it for literally 

2165
01:52:27,200 --> 01:52:29,240
years. 
And then they go on to say that 

2166
01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:32,120
the defendants pipe bombs and 
the fear and terror they 

2167
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,480
instilled in the general public 
were the product of weeks of 

2168
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:38,280
premeditation and planning. 
Well, to use their own documents

2169
01:52:38,320 --> 01:52:40,320
I would say it would be years. 
Years. 

2170
01:52:40,840 --> 01:52:45,520
It has to go back to to 2018 
now, yeah. 2. 1018 we've 

2171
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,400
expanded it. 
With this particular document, 

2172
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:49,520
the defendant purchased the 
components he used to construct 

2173
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,720
the bombs over a series of 
months, including a before and 

2174
01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:54,600
after the 2020 election, which 
right there tells you that it 

2175
01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,360
makes no sense that he would do 
it because of the election. 

2176
01:52:56,800 --> 01:52:58,120
Why was he building them 
beforehand? 

2177
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:02,040
And then they also take him at 
his word without having any 

2178
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:05,160
documentation saying, by the way
we substantiated what he said by

2179
01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:08,000
watching YouTube science videos 
and playing video games. 

2180
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:10,640
He was able to disassemble, 
assemble the devices, whatever 

2181
01:53:10,640 --> 01:53:13,200
the this is my favorite line 
too, Steve. 

2182
01:53:13,360 --> 01:53:16,640
Whatever the precise contours of
the defendants research and 

2183
01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:19,360
preparation are, which the FBI 
essentially is admitting they 

2184
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:24,840
don't know whatever they were, 
it was sufficiently extensive 

2185
01:53:24,840 --> 01:53:28,080
for him to assemble 2 pipe bombs
10 the hours leading up to his 

2186
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:30,120
travel to Washington DC, because
apparently he built them on 

2187
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:32,600
January 5th. 
It was sophisticated enough for 

2188
01:53:32,600 --> 01:53:34,080
him to construct, Here's that 
word again. 

2189
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:37,080
Viable explosive devices using 
all the components necessary to 

2190
01:53:37,080 --> 01:53:39,600
cause an explosion, despite the 
fact that it didn't in fact 

2191
01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:41,880
cause an explosion. 
And then he got rid of all of 

2192
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,240
his bomb making materials 
because he was worried, along 

2193
01:53:44,240 --> 01:53:46,440
with the shoes, which he got rid
of because he said they were 

2194
01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:48,440
falling apart. 
But the good news is then he 

2195
01:53:48,440 --> 01:53:49,640
went out and bought more of 
them. 

2196
01:53:52,680 --> 01:53:54,920
The calculated nature of the 
defendant's criminal conduct 

2197
01:53:54,920 --> 01:53:57,440
over an extended period of time 
should feature prominently in 

2198
01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:59,000
the court's detention 
determination. 

2199
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:01,160
This obviously the entire 
document is meant to make sure 

2200
01:54:01,160 --> 01:54:08,920
that he stays behind bars. 
And we haven't even explored the

2201
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:15,000
whereabouts of the possibility, 
we'll just call it that, that 

2202
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:18,880
these bombs were removed after 
they were placed the evening 

2203
01:54:18,880 --> 01:54:23,080
before and then replaced. 
That they weren't actually 

2204
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:24,760
laying out for anybody to find 
all. 

2205
01:54:24,760 --> 01:54:27,440
Their noon? 
Yeah, sometime after 12:00. 

2206
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:29,640
We'll call that the Julie Kelly 
theory because she really likes 

2207
01:54:29,640 --> 01:54:29,920
that. 
Yeah. 

2208
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:34,800
Well. 
I know she's not the originator 

2209
01:54:34,800 --> 01:54:36,200
of it. 
Let me let me continue this a 

2210
01:54:36,200 --> 01:54:37,920
little bit because we're almost 
to the end here. 

2211
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,320
Perhaps more than anything else,
this is directly quoting from 

2212
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:41,440
the document. 
Again, perhaps more than 

2213
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:44,400
anything else, the defendant's 
choice of targets demonstrates 

2214
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:48,120
the extreme and deeply dangerous
nature of his conduct. 

2215
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:51,720
Although the defendant acquired 
the bomb making components in 

2216
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:55,400
the month leading up to January 
5th, also known as the Years, he

2217
01:54:55,400 --> 01:54:57,920
chose to plant them at the 
headquarters of the nation's two

2218
01:54:57,920 --> 01:55:00,480
major political parties in 
downtown Washington, DC on the 

2219
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,360
eve of the January 6th 
certification of the Electoral 

2220
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:05,440
College vote. 
Which, by the way, in his own 

2221
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:07,120
words, had nothing to do with 
what he was doing. 

2222
01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,200
But that doesn't matter. 
We're making an argument here. 

2223
01:55:09,520 --> 01:55:12,240
In his own words, the defendant 
said that he did not quote like 

2224
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:16,280
either party, but they were in 
charge and thus they were, in 

2225
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,960
the defendant's mind, an 
appropriate target for extreme 

2226
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:22,880
acts of violence. 
The defendant's choice of 

2227
01:55:22,880 --> 01:55:25,360
targets risked the life of 
innocent people and pedestrians 

2228
01:55:25,360 --> 01:55:27,120
and office workers, but also of 
law enforcement, first 

2229
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:28,920
responders and national 
political leaders who were 

2230
01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:31,120
inside the respected party 
headquarters or drove to them on

2231
01:55:31,120 --> 01:55:33,600
January the 6th. 
Except theoretically, they were 

2232
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:37,840
supposed to blow up before that.
In this sense, the defendant's 

2233
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:41,080
invocation of the Troubles in 
Northern Ireland is telling. 

2234
01:55:43,920 --> 01:55:45,520
Did someone write this with a 
straight face? 

2235
01:55:45,640 --> 01:55:47,840
The bombings. 
Bombings were used frequently 

2236
01:55:47,840 --> 01:55:49,760
throughout that period to kill 
officials and civilians. 

2237
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:51,880
For political purposes, the 
court should consider the 

2238
01:55:51,880 --> 01:55:55,200
gravity of the defendant's 
targets in assessing the nature 

2239
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:56,640
of the charge. 
Defenses. 

2240
01:55:58,280 --> 01:55:59,800
Buddy. 
Mr. Baker? 

2241
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:00,840
Yeah. 
Man. 

2242
01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:03,400
It goes on. 
There's a couple more pages 

2243
01:56:03,400 --> 01:56:04,720
here. 
They're mostly, they're mostly 

2244
01:56:04,720 --> 01:56:06,320
not relevant to what we're 
making the argument of. 

2245
01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:09,560
Should we go to the motion that 
the government filed and then 

2246
01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:10,800
the this was the government's 
motion. 

2247
01:56:10,800 --> 01:56:12,560
Rather, should we go to the to 
the answer that the defense 

2248
01:56:12,560 --> 01:56:14,960
played? 
Yeah, this is this is actually 

2249
01:56:15,120 --> 01:56:18,440
pretty powerful. 
I'm very pleased with the new 

2250
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,600
legal team. 
They seem to be coming out of 

2251
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:26,640
the chutes with the intent to 
defend Brian Cole. 

2252
01:56:27,080 --> 01:56:29,920
I wasn't so sure about the 
previous attorney. 

2253
01:56:30,320 --> 01:56:34,200
I actually had concerns because 
of their lack of response, lack 

2254
01:56:34,200 --> 01:56:37,400
of candor, that they were 
working for the wrong team, as a

2255
01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:43,160
matter of fact. 
This is a motion that is from 

2256
01:56:43,160 --> 01:56:47,280
the defense and I'm going to 
call this a check raise. 

2257
01:56:48,120 --> 01:56:50,200
If you guys are familiar with 
the way poker works, sometimes 

2258
01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:54,000
you can bait somebody into 
playing a hand and they will, 

2259
01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:56,120
you'll check to them, you'll say
we'll defer to you. 

2260
01:56:56,120 --> 01:56:58,320
And in in this case, the check 
would have been that they will 

2261
01:56:58,320 --> 01:57:03,000
defer the the detention and 
preliminary hearing until the 

2262
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:05,760
30th instead of requiring it to 
be done in the 1st 15 days, 

2263
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,320
which is required by the Speedy 
Trials Act. 

2264
01:57:07,720 --> 01:57:10,920
So they checked to the 
government and the government 

2265
01:57:12,200 --> 01:57:15,440
they decided to, you know, to 
play at them and they said yeah.

2266
01:57:15,440 --> 01:57:17,360
And we've got this confession 
and we're feeling good to go. 

2267
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:21,480
And then once the check comes 
around, they raise on top of it.

2268
01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:24,200
And so the defense filed this 
motion. 

2269
01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:27,120
This is the defendant Brian Cole
Junior's motion to confirm a 

2270
01:57:27,120 --> 01:57:31,080
preliminary hearing date. 
And this was filed yesterday. 

2271
01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:35,880
All right, The documents that 
we're looking at from the 

2272
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:41,120
previous still an order. 
This is document 17 was filed 

2273
01:57:41,120 --> 01:57:42,960
yesterday. 
We've also got document 21 in 

2274
01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:44,880
this case. 
And what it says is Defendant 

2275
01:57:44,880 --> 01:57:46,960
Brian Cole, Junior, the 
underside counsel respectfully 

2276
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:49,920
moves the court to confirm that 
the hearing already set for 

2277
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:54,000
Tuesday, December 30th of 2025, 
will proceed as Rule 5.1, 

2278
01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:58,600
Preliminary Hearing and 
Detention Hearing and enforce 

2279
01:57:58,600 --> 01:58:02,720
the statutory timeline and 
remedy provided by 18 USC 3060 

2280
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:05,320
in the event the government 
objects to a preliminary hearing

2281
01:58:05,320 --> 01:58:07,080
On this date. 
Mr. Cole has not waived his 

2282
01:58:07,080 --> 01:58:09,400
right to a preliminary hearing 
where they will assess what 

2283
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:12,360
probable cause exists. 
This is different than going to 

2284
01:58:12,360 --> 01:58:14,560
grand jury, folks. 
And this is where it gets really

2285
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:18,880
interesting because if they, if 
they allow this to continue a 

2286
01:58:18,880 --> 01:58:21,840
continuance that would take them
into next year, the DOJ would 

2287
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,360
take this in front of a grand 
jury, which is 1 sided. 

2288
01:58:24,800 --> 01:58:27,800
It's the government's case only 
and they represent what they've 

2289
01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,120
got and then a grand jury 
decides what it is. 

2290
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:32,320
Maybe they snow them with that 
ping BS. 

2291
01:58:32,480 --> 01:58:34,760
Maybe they try to go out there 
and say he had all the materials

2292
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:36,920
so therefore he was the guy. 
And they sort of don't 

2293
01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:38,920
necessarily bring up the fact 
that he continued buying bomb 

2294
01:58:38,920 --> 01:58:40,720
making materials after he 
apparently threw out the bomb 

2295
01:58:40,720 --> 01:58:43,080
making materials because he was 
worried about being found out. 

2296
01:58:43,240 --> 01:58:46,240
And then he started wiping his 
phone before the event and then 

2297
01:58:46,240 --> 01:58:49,520
18 months after the event and 
then did so compulsively 942 

2298
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,440
times over the next, you know, 
whatever it is, couple years. 

2299
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:56,760
And like that means something. 
Maybe maybe a, a civilian grand 

2300
01:58:56,760 --> 01:58:59,600
jury might be snowed by that, 
but I suspect a judge might not 

2301
01:58:59,600 --> 01:59:01,920
be nearly as much. 
The parties previously set the 

2302
01:59:01,920 --> 01:59:05,720
date of December the 30th and 
the 20 of 2025 as the date for 

2303
01:59:05,720 --> 01:59:08,080
the detention hearing. 
The defense did not rave waive 

2304
01:59:08,080 --> 01:59:10,760
the right to this preliminary 
hearing and to the contrary, it 

2305
01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:14,040
is consistently expected that it
would proceed on December the 

2306
01:59:14,040 --> 01:59:17,360
30th. 
This could actually all end with

2307
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:19,840
some exculpatory evidence 
presented, which they're allowed

2308
01:59:19,840 --> 01:59:22,480
to do to show that there's not 
even probable cause to keep this

2309
01:59:22,480 --> 01:59:24,920
guy in in prison that they would
have to actually they could even

2310
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:29,320
they could drop this case 
tomorrow and there's AI would 

2311
01:59:29,320 --> 01:59:32,600
say if they if they do their job
right, they can throw this thing

2312
01:59:32,600 --> 01:59:34,040
out. 
I don't know if they'll do that,

2313
01:59:35,000 --> 01:59:37,560
but this is what the government 
apparently sent an e-mail asking

2314
01:59:37,840 --> 01:59:40,800
to push the preliminary hearing 
to either January 7th or 8th. 

2315
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:44,320
But the defense says that it 
comes too late and it does not 

2316
01:59:44,320 --> 01:59:48,520
meet the Rule 5.1 D rigorous 
standard. 

2317
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,720
In other words, the government 
is realizing that their bluff is

2318
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:54,920
being called here. 
And this is my reading of this. 

2319
01:59:55,240 --> 02:00:00,040
The court should confirm that 
the the December 30th hearing is

2320
02:00:00,040 --> 02:00:02,960
not just a detention hearing but
also a preliminary hearing and 

2321
02:00:02,960 --> 02:00:04,960
direct the government to be 
prepared to present its evidence

2322
02:00:04,960 --> 02:00:08,320
in support of probable cause. 
I would I would say that if I 

2323
02:00:08,320 --> 02:00:11,240
was in this scenario, I would 
not want this at all folks. 

2324
02:00:12,040 --> 02:00:14,040
I would not want to be 
presenting this case to anybody,

2325
02:00:14,680 --> 02:00:17,480
certainly not a judge that's 
going to look at it and and has 

2326
02:00:17,480 --> 02:00:21,040
a presumption of innocence 
because this is so weak. 

2327
02:00:21,200 --> 02:00:23,600
It continues to be the thinnest 
case outlined. 

2328
02:00:24,360 --> 02:00:26,160
And then they go on to talk 
about Federal Rule of Criminal 

2329
02:00:26,160 --> 02:00:29,640
Procedure and talking about that
there is a prompt probable cause

2330
02:00:29,640 --> 02:00:31,480
determination that's supposed to
be made. 

2331
02:00:31,680 --> 02:00:34,760
Usually you have no less than it
can be no later than 14 days 

2332
02:00:34,760 --> 02:00:37,360
after the initial appearance. 
But in this case they had some 

2333
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:39,480
extraordinary circumstances. 
They bumped it back a little 

2334
02:00:39,480 --> 02:00:41,960
ways. 
What it does require is that 

2335
02:00:41,960 --> 02:00:44,880
there is a extraordinary 
circumstance and justice 

2336
02:00:44,880 --> 02:00:47,000
requires the delay. 
This is the only reason that the

2337
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:50,240
government could say, aha, yes, 
we need additional time because 

2338
02:00:50,240 --> 02:00:52,040
of these things. 
And the and the defense is 

2339
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:53,520
arguing they didn't meet that 
motion. 

2340
02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:55,480
What the government is trying to
do is kick it in the next year 

2341
02:00:55,480 --> 02:00:58,840
so they can go to a grand jury 
and bypass this, this 

2342
02:00:59,160 --> 02:01:02,480
adversarial preliminary hearing 
where the defense has the 

2343
02:01:02,480 --> 02:01:04,200
ability to go and question 
probable cause. 

2344
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:08,480
Forget, forget actual like 
guilt, you know, and and the and

2345
02:01:08,480 --> 02:01:11,840
the beyond reasonable doubt, 
they can question whether or not

2346
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:15,240
there's even probable cause and 
that should happen tomorrow. 

2347
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:17,520
That's what the defense is 
asking for, which I think is 

2348
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,640
very encouraging. 
Again, Steve was saying that we 

2349
02:01:19,640 --> 02:01:24,480
watched kind of a kind of a limp
wristed start to this defense, 

2350
02:01:24,840 --> 02:01:26,840
but this is a much more full 
throated statement that says 

2351
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,080
that they're actually going to 
defend this. 

2352
02:01:29,160 --> 02:01:31,920
Case now I'm very I'm very 
pleased with this and nothing 

2353
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:36,920
would obviously nothing would 
please me more to see a judge 

2354
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:41,280
just hit the pause button on 
this thing send him home, you 

2355
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:43,760
know at least until they the 
government can get their act 

2356
02:01:43,760 --> 02:01:46,440
together on this. 
I I you know I think that I 

2357
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:49,760
think the case is too big it's 
got too much of a profile 

2358
02:01:49,760 --> 02:01:53,960
already for the regardless of 
who the judge is regardless of 

2359
02:01:55,480 --> 02:01:57,840
the political ramifications. 
I think that they're going to 

2360
02:01:57,840 --> 02:02:01,680
have to probably I don't want 
them to but I think they're 

2361
02:02:01,680 --> 02:02:04,880
probably going to have to detain
this kid in some manner up until

2362
02:02:04,880 --> 02:02:07,600
this point. 
Hopefully he's not sitting in in

2363
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:10,520
a look. 
Let me, let me let me tell you, 

2364
02:02:10,520 --> 02:02:12,960
let me tell you a story real 
quick. 

2365
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:21,960
I was at Matt Kibby's Christmas 
party Thursday a week and a half

2366
02:02:21,960 --> 02:02:30,720
ago, and this was the day before
I really got sick and I was 

2367
02:02:30,960 --> 02:02:34,800
feeling great. 
Congressman Thomas Massie was 

2368
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:40,440
there among many other people, a
couple other dignitaries and 

2369
02:02:41,240 --> 02:02:45,240
Congress members. 
And we were talking about the 

2370
02:02:45,240 --> 02:02:50,680
kids, this possibility that this
Brian Cole was sitting in 

2371
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:58,520
solitary confinement and Massey 
literally genuine, genuinely, 

2372
02:02:58,760 --> 02:03:04,200
his heart was aching for this 
young man and expressing that to

2373
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:07,320
me into a crowd of people that 
we were talking to and how much 

2374
02:03:07,320 --> 02:03:10,960
that that was hurting. 
He said the words he said, this 

2375
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:15,640
hurts my heart to think that 
this kid is sitting in a 

2376
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,280
solitary confinement somewhere. 
And I, you know, they're 

2377
02:03:18,280 --> 02:03:20,600
certainly not going to have him 
in the general population. 

2378
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,160
He's going to be in protected 
custody. 

2379
02:03:23,640 --> 02:03:30,920
And but to break up the routine,
I mean, let's look 5 minutes to 

2380
02:03:30,920 --> 02:03:33,800
Wapner, right? 
The, the, the headphones, his 

2381
02:03:33,800 --> 02:03:39,440
routine going to the 711 every 
day, two orders, 2 Cokes and a 

2382
02:03:39,560 --> 02:03:44,600
slice of pizza every day. 
And these routines he can't 

2383
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,880
break up. 
And even talking to the 

2384
02:03:46,880 --> 02:03:52,280
neighbors, his route when he 
walked the dog twice a day was a

2385
02:03:52,280 --> 02:03:57,040
very specific route that very, 
very rarely, if ever altered at 

2386
02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:00,320
all. 
And this is typical of the, of 

2387
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:02,840
individuals with this particular
mental wiring. 

2388
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:12,320
And so then you Fast forward a 
couple of days and I and I, I, I

2389
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:15,600
don't want, I didn't get 
permission from the congressman 

2390
02:04:15,600 --> 02:04:19,680
to, to say this yet or to, you 
know, but I'm going to thank him

2391
02:04:19,680 --> 02:04:25,880
publicly for what he did. 
That's right, I think it has to 

2392
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:27,200
be. 
What's that? 

2393
02:04:27,560 --> 02:04:28,960
I think it has to be done. 
Yeah. 

2394
02:04:29,000 --> 02:04:34,240
I, I, when I went to the 
emergency room on Sunday here in

2395
02:04:34,240 --> 02:04:38,520
North Carolina, there was 
something that I needed to tell 

2396
02:04:38,520 --> 02:04:41,760
the congressman badly. 
There was something that I had 

2397
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:45,800
been sitting on for a couple of 
days that I learned on Friday of

2398
02:04:45,800 --> 02:04:50,800
a week, week and a half ago, 
Something which if you've 

2399
02:04:50,800 --> 02:04:55,320
followed Johanneman's X account 
at all he talked about there's 

2400
02:04:56,080 --> 02:04:59,240
it's deeper and darker. 
This J6 pipe bomber case is 

2401
02:04:59,240 --> 02:05:02,080
deeper and darker than has yet 
to be revealed. 

2402
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:06,600
And Joe alluded to that in one 
of his post. 

2403
02:05:07,840 --> 02:05:10,560
And this was while I was going 
through with what I was going 

2404
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:15,960
through. 
And the congressman had already 

2405
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:17,520
left. 
DCI was still there. 

2406
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:20,840
I was still there until Saturday
afternoon, but he flew out on 

2407
02:05:20,960 --> 02:05:27,800
Friday and to begin his holiday 
and I sent him a note and I 

2408
02:05:27,800 --> 02:05:31,640
said, I'm probably in order to 
tell you this because I can't 

2409
02:05:31,800 --> 02:05:34,600
speak this over a telephone. 
I need to get on an airplane. 

2410
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:37,560
I need to come see him. 
And he was, he was like, come 

2411
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:40,160
on. 
Then all of a sudden everything 

2412
02:05:40,160 --> 02:05:45,440
in my life changed on Sunday, 
Sunday evening and multiple 

2413
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:49,920
procedures through the night and
then the next morning and in 

2414
02:05:49,920 --> 02:05:56,400
between one of these procedures 
where they knock me out, I get a

2415
02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:00,920
message from the congressman and
he said, I'm flying to Raleigh, 

2416
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:05,600
I'm coming to see you. 
And I'm and I've I've already 

2417
02:06:05,600 --> 02:06:08,440
got scheduled another procedure 
where they're going to go in and

2418
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:15,120
ZAP my heart, you know, to try 
to knock it back into sink to 

2419
02:06:15,120 --> 02:06:17,440
jam some sort of device down my 
throat. 

2420
02:06:17,440 --> 02:06:20,600
And you know, went in and and 
then hit me with the. 

2421
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:25,800
Yes, they did a transesophageal 
cardio version. 

2422
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:27,360
Yeah, something, whatever it's 
called, yeah. 

2423
02:06:27,640 --> 02:06:30,760
That's what it's called. 
And so of course, they, you 

2424
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:33,120
know, they put me under general 
anesthetic for that. 

2425
02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,320
And he's, he's, he's, he's in 
the air. 

2426
02:06:38,120 --> 02:06:41,880
He's, I mean, I'm, I'm on a 
table somewhere in this, you 

2427
02:06:41,880 --> 02:06:44,760
know, the bowels of this new 
cardiac center in Raleigh. 

2428
02:06:45,200 --> 02:06:48,320
And he's flying to, to the 
hospital to see me. 

2429
02:06:48,320 --> 02:06:52,040
He and his wife and I come out 
of it. 

2430
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:55,320
I get they transferred me. 
I've been in ER the night before

2431
02:06:55,600 --> 02:07:01,880
in the, I'm sorry, intensive 
care ICU the night before. 

2432
02:07:01,880 --> 02:07:04,600
So they transferred me to a 
regular room after this 

2433
02:07:04,600 --> 02:07:08,080
particular procedure and got my 
heart back under control. 

2434
02:07:08,800 --> 02:07:15,120
And then sure enough, 
Congressman shows up in my hotel

2435
02:07:15,120 --> 02:07:20,680
room and he and his wife and 
they sat there with me for four 

2436
02:07:20,680 --> 02:07:24,640
hours through into late into the
evening on on Monday. 

2437
02:07:25,280 --> 02:07:31,200
And this is, this is the guy 
who's taking more heat from MAGA

2438
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:33,600
right now than anybody else, 
more heat from the Trump 

2439
02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:37,440
supporters than anybody else. 
I mean, the, the, the reality is

2440
02:07:37,440 --> 02:07:40,560
he's more, he's more MAGA and 
he's more the guy that Trump 

2441
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:46,400
campaigned to be then then the, 
the party or the people or those

2442
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:52,960
who claim to be. 
But he's also he's a sincere and

2443
02:07:53,480 --> 02:07:57,680
purposeful human being who's not
compromised by the system. 

2444
02:07:58,240 --> 02:08:03,240
And when he reached out to me 
several weeks ago after our 

2445
02:08:03,240 --> 02:08:08,120
first story in this series came 
out and I had not seen him since

2446
02:08:08,120 --> 02:08:13,800
his since his wife died year and
a half ago, his previous wife, 

2447
02:08:13,800 --> 02:08:18,320
obviously. 
And he sent me a message and he 

2448
02:08:18,320 --> 02:08:22,120
said, Hey, Steve, he said, let's
get together. 

2449
02:08:22,120 --> 02:08:25,400
He said, we got to we got to get
caught up on all of this. 

2450
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:29,240
And he said, oh, by the way, I'm
still not compromised. 

2451
02:08:29,720 --> 02:08:31,680
And I thought that was the 
greatest thing in the world, you

2452
02:08:31,680 --> 02:08:34,920
know, for him to put that out 
there in a manner he did and he 

2453
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:39,840
and he's not and. 
Let me let me say that one more 

2454
02:08:39,840 --> 02:08:41,000
time for people that are 
following it. 

2455
02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,520
And listen, if you guys, I'm 
watching our chat and the chat's

2456
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:44,680
like what's the point? 
I don't understand. 

2457
02:08:44,680 --> 02:08:46,760
It's like, OK, listen, first of 
all, my buddy just got out of 

2458
02:08:46,760 --> 02:08:48,000
the hospital. 
So give the man a break. 

2459
02:08:48,160 --> 02:08:50,720
Like Steve. 
Plus, Steve and I tend to have 

2460
02:08:50,720 --> 02:08:52,520
meandering stories. 
That's just the nature of the 

2461
02:08:52,520 --> 02:08:54,400
man. 
So deal with it y'all. 

2462
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:59,000
But here's the most important 
part Steve Baker told Thomas 

2463
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:01,360
Massie, the congressman, I have 
something I want to share with 

2464
02:09:01,360 --> 02:09:03,320
you and I'm going to fly out to 
tell you because I can't do it 

2465
02:09:03,320 --> 02:09:06,280
over the phone. 
Tom Massie found out that Steve 

2466
02:09:06,280 --> 02:09:09,240
Baker was in the hospital. 
He reached out to me and talked 

2467
02:09:09,240 --> 02:09:10,360
to me, said, you know what The 
thing is? 

2468
02:09:10,360 --> 02:09:11,800
I said, I don't. 
But I know he wanted to tell 

2469
02:09:11,800 --> 02:09:12,760
you. 
And I know it's really important

2470
02:09:12,760 --> 02:09:14,520
to him. 
And the next time I talked to 

2471
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:17,960
Steve to Congressman Massie, 
which was a couple hours after 

2472
02:09:17,960 --> 02:09:20,280
that, it was I did the podcast 
and I got a phone call and he 

2473
02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:22,080
said, I'm in Raleigh and I'm 
driving up to go see him right 

2474
02:09:22,080 --> 02:09:24,360
now in the hospital. 
He got on a plane. 

2475
02:09:24,760 --> 02:09:26,720
What was it the day before 
Christmas or two days before? 

2476
02:09:26,720 --> 02:09:29,440
It was like a. 
Couple days before Christmas. 

2477
02:09:29,800 --> 02:09:33,400
Every He had family in town, he 
had grandchildren and all the 

2478
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,400
things that you'd expect. 
And he didn't tell us we could 

2479
02:09:35,400 --> 02:09:38,000
tell the story, but we're doing 
it anyway because the man showed

2480
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:41,000
up in a hospital room when 
nobody else did. 

2481
02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:43,400
And also just a little shout out
to one of our friends, a former 

2482
02:09:43,400 --> 02:09:46,120
FBI guy who's retired and 
decided to go up there, took it 

2483
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:48,200
upon himself to go and keep 
watch over our friend Steve 

2484
02:09:48,200 --> 02:09:50,640
Baker. 
There's some real people out 

2485
02:09:50,640 --> 02:09:53,160
there that are that are genuine.
And there are people out there 

2486
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,320
that pretend to be genuine. 
And if you guys want to know 

2487
02:09:55,320 --> 02:09:58,560
what's genuine, it's jumping on 
a plane on December 23rd when 

2488
02:09:58,560 --> 02:10:01,800
you got family in town because 
somebody tells you they might be

2489
02:10:01,800 --> 02:10:03,560
on their deathbed and they've 
got something they need to share

2490
02:10:03,560 --> 02:10:04,680
with you. 
And you decide that it's 

2491
02:10:04,680 --> 02:10:07,680
important enough to show up. 
And how much credibility did 

2492
02:10:07,680 --> 02:10:09,080
that give you with the story 
that you were telling the 

2493
02:10:09,080 --> 02:10:11,200
doctors when when you had a 
congressman flying across the 

2494
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:12,760
country to come talk to you? 
Yeah. 

2495
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:17,600
Well, I had, I had some concerns
about the timing of this 

2496
02:10:17,600 --> 02:10:22,880
particular event and 
particularly when you look at 

2497
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:25,040
some of the things we've been 
writing stories about for the 

2498
02:10:25,040 --> 02:10:29,000
last year. 
And so one of the things that I 

2499
02:10:29,000 --> 02:10:32,520
requested of the surgeons were 
or the, the, the docs there was 

2500
02:10:32,520 --> 02:10:36,800
that they would do a, you know, 
much more extensive blood study 

2501
02:10:36,880 --> 02:10:38,720
and. 
Toxicology. 

2502
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:44,000
Yeah, Toxicology screen. 
Toxicology and, and they looked 

2503
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,840
at me, you know, like I was a 
tinfoil hat kind of guy. 

2504
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:51,160
And so finally one of the one of
the main guys, the guy that 

2505
02:10:51,160 --> 02:10:57,480
actually did that, that last 
procedure on me, he said and I, 

2506
02:10:57,880 --> 02:11:01,960
I was already in recovery and he
said he goes, I don't, you know,

2507
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:04,200
he goes, look, I'm not trying to
question you or anything. 

2508
02:11:04,200 --> 02:11:12,040
He goes, but is there anybody in
your family or that can verify 

2509
02:11:13,080 --> 02:11:17,240
and validate your concerns? 
And I said, well, I said 

2510
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:19,840
according to the message I have 
right here, I said that the 

2511
02:11:19,840 --> 02:11:21,240
congressman will be here in an 
hour. 

2512
02:11:21,240 --> 02:11:22,880
You can check in with him if you
want to. 

2513
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:25,920
And that sealed the deal for me,
right? 

2514
02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:29,880
Anyway, people you can, you can 
judge people by their fruits, 

2515
02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:31,160
you can judge them by their 
actions. 

2516
02:11:31,160 --> 02:11:34,280
This was right in the middle of 
the, of the Epstein file, you 

2517
02:11:34,280 --> 02:11:36,600
know, signature and the, and the
deadline that was coming up on 

2518
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,000
that and the, the failure to 
release all that information. 

2519
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:41,240
So it's not like Massey didn't 
have other things that were 

2520
02:11:41,240 --> 02:11:44,480
going on. 
But for a guy to take it out of 

2521
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:47,600
his, you know, very busy 
schedule, which he is, and he's 

2522
02:11:48,080 --> 02:11:51,800
a very prominent congressman to 
pick up and fly out to go see, 

2523
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:56,360
you know, Steve in the hospital 
and, and, and, and nobody would 

2524
02:11:56,360 --> 02:11:58,480
ever know, by the way, none of 
you would know that if we didn't

2525
02:11:58,480 --> 02:11:59,720
tell you. 
And we're telling you because 

2526
02:11:59,720 --> 02:12:01,840
it's important. 
It tells you who Massey is. 

2527
02:12:02,000 --> 02:12:05,200
I mean, this obviously was also 
all out of his pocket. 

2528
02:12:05,200 --> 02:12:10,080
He flew himself, his wife there.
There was no direct flight from 

2529
02:12:10,720 --> 02:12:13,480
eastern KY where he lives to 
Raleigh. 

2530
02:12:13,480 --> 02:12:16,000
He had to fly to Charlotte, rent
a car. 

2531
02:12:16,440 --> 02:12:21,600
It's a 3 hour drive drive to 
Raleigh and then spend the night

2532
02:12:21,600 --> 02:12:24,600
there and then drive back to 
Charlotte the next morning to 

2533
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:25,800
catch a flight back to the 
Eastern. 

2534
02:12:26,000 --> 02:12:27,680
Fly back to his family for, for 
Christmas. 

2535
02:12:28,560 --> 02:12:30,680
Just judge people by their 
fruits, folks. 

2536
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:34,320
And you can you can see the way 
that they they handle business 

2537
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:36,400
and you can see that you won't 
always see the stuff going on 

2538
02:12:36,400 --> 02:12:38,120
behind the scenes. 
Part of what we do here at this 

2539
02:12:38,120 --> 02:12:40,000
program is that we're not 
beholden to anybody. 

2540
02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:42,400
And you know, he didn't tell me 
not to share that story and he 

2541
02:12:42,400 --> 02:12:43,840
didn't tell Steve not to tell 
that story. 

2542
02:12:44,040 --> 02:12:45,880
I know he wouldn't go and brag 
about it and tell you, but I 

2543
02:12:45,880 --> 02:12:48,600
think that is a pretty good 
indication left somebody's 

2544
02:12:48,600 --> 02:12:51,320
character when they step up in 
the same way that we had 

2545
02:12:51,320 --> 02:12:53,560
somebody step up and and sit in 
your hotel room. 

2546
02:12:53,560 --> 02:12:56,360
And, you know, certainly put me 
at ease knowing that there was 

2547
02:12:56,360 --> 02:12:59,200
someone there looking over you 
that I could trust to keep an 

2548
02:12:59,200 --> 02:13:00,440
eye on you. 
And, and he did a risk 

2549
02:13:00,440 --> 02:13:02,120
assessment and we decided that 
you're OK. 

2550
02:13:02,400 --> 02:13:04,480
I'm really glad you're out of 
the hospital right now. 

2551
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:08,600
This case is crap. 
This story that the government 

2552
02:13:08,600 --> 02:13:11,960
is peddling is garbage. 
And I think that this is where 

2553
02:13:11,960 --> 02:13:13,400
I'm going to end it and I'll end
it on this. 

2554
02:13:14,200 --> 02:13:16,080
And, and thank you for spending 
all the time with me that you 

2555
02:13:16,080 --> 02:13:17,520
did, because this is the most 
that you and I have talked. 

2556
02:13:17,520 --> 02:13:20,720
It's probably the longest you've
you've spent talking on on like 

2557
02:13:20,760 --> 02:13:23,880
this in a couple of days, buddy.
Yeah, this is actually. 

2558
02:13:24,680 --> 02:13:27,400
You're going to go and take some
some, some downtime, I hope. 

2559
02:13:27,400 --> 02:13:28,960
But this is what I think is 
really wild. 

2560
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:31,680
I'm moving more and more into 
the camp that I I suspect that 

2561
02:13:31,680 --> 02:13:36,280
the FBI may be doing this on 
purpose, not setting somebody up

2562
02:13:36,280 --> 02:13:37,600
on purpose. 
They do that all the time. 

2563
02:13:38,000 --> 02:13:41,120
That's just kind of the MO. 
But my, there's a real 

2564
02:13:41,120 --> 02:13:43,200
possibility that they are 
deliberately presenting this 

2565
02:13:43,200 --> 02:13:45,320
weak case because of how it's 
going to reflect on the guys 

2566
02:13:45,320 --> 02:13:47,960
that run the FBI. 
And I, I don't have any evidence

2567
02:13:47,960 --> 02:13:49,440
of this other than just kind of 
my gut feeling. 

2568
02:13:49,440 --> 02:13:52,640
But I was talking it out with a 
retired FBI agent last night. 

2569
02:13:53,240 --> 02:13:56,400
And it's really hard to imagine 
them being this incompetent and 

2570
02:13:56,400 --> 02:14:00,600
having this much garbage being 
posted unless they are really 

2571
02:14:00,600 --> 02:14:04,360
trying to go out there and show 
that the guys running this who 

2572
02:14:04,480 --> 02:14:08,960
who hang their hat on this 
particular case, they want to 

2573
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:10,760
because you're not going to know
the names of the case agents 

2574
02:14:10,760 --> 02:14:13,280
that were in that interview. 
They're not going to be national

2575
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:16,480
stories. 
The even the a Dick, the 

2576
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:18,480
assistant director in charge of 
the Washington field office will

2577
02:14:18,480 --> 02:14:21,240
not have a national story. 
His career won't be ruined over 

2578
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:22,120
this. 
He'll go get another job. 

2579
02:14:22,120 --> 02:14:23,120
Somebody else. 
Nobody will know. 

2580
02:14:23,120 --> 02:14:27,880
They won't know to look for it, 
but Patel and Bongino will be 

2581
02:14:27,880 --> 02:14:30,040
sullied by this if it explodes 
in their face. 

2582
02:14:31,240 --> 02:14:33,600
Yeah. 
And who and who is bringing this

2583
02:14:33,600 --> 02:14:36,200
about? 
Who is making this bad of a 

2584
02:14:36,200 --> 02:14:37,920
case? 
That's, I mean, that's the. 

2585
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:40,400
Question Purpose. 
We don't know the answer, but I 

2586
02:14:40,440 --> 02:14:41,920
but I'm just telling you like 
I'm moving. 

2587
02:14:41,920 --> 02:14:45,400
This is a, a growing 
possibility, which is a really, 

2588
02:14:45,400 --> 02:14:47,760
really, really dark thing to 
think that they would both 

2589
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:52,040
sacrifice the freedom of some 
poor citizen, that they would 

2590
02:14:52,880 --> 02:14:56,080
deliberately spike this case to 
cover up for government or 

2591
02:14:56,080 --> 02:14:58,280
otherwise. 
And that it looks this bad 

2592
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:00,920
because it, because if this 
blows up and I, and I think that

2593
02:15:00,920 --> 02:15:03,960
there's almost, I don't, I don't
know how they get away with it, 

2594
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:06,200
especially with what you and I 
have seen privately, which 

2595
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:07,920
folks, it will be public at some
point. 

2596
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:11,560
Keep your eye on the blaze. 
Keep your eye on Steve Baker's 

2597
02:15:11,680 --> 02:15:17,200
place over there, which is it's 
theblaze.com/truth TRUTH. 

2598
02:15:18,960 --> 02:15:22,360
I, I don't, I think you could 
get a acquittal with what we 

2599
02:15:22,360 --> 02:15:24,320
know right now in front of ADC 
jury. 

2600
02:15:24,720 --> 02:15:27,280
I I will forget. 
Like a black jury, I'm talking 

2601
02:15:27,280 --> 02:15:29,640
about like white liberals in 
Washington, DC are not going to 

2602
02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:31,320
convict this. 
Guy, no, there's there's no, 

2603
02:15:31,320 --> 02:15:33,920
there's no way ADC jury convicts
this guy right now. 

2604
02:15:34,040 --> 02:15:36,240
Just with what we know. 
Just with what we know, and 

2605
02:15:36,240 --> 02:15:38,840
there's obviously going to be 
more, more and worse to this, I 

2606
02:15:38,840 --> 02:15:41,800
think the more that we learn. 
Yeah, absolutely so. 

2607
02:15:43,120 --> 02:15:47,600
I'm going to leave it at that. 
Steve, thanks for thanks for 

2608
02:15:47,920 --> 02:15:50,000
sitting through this with me and
walking through this, this 

2609
02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,560
nonsense. 
I hope that was somewhat 

2610
02:15:51,560 --> 02:15:52,760
therapeutic. 
And I know it's kind of a 

2611
02:15:52,760 --> 02:15:57,600
reintroduction of the wild here.
Man, no thanks for thanks for 

2612
02:15:57,600 --> 02:15:59,600
having me. 
And let me let me close out by 

2613
02:15:59,600 --> 02:16:09,400
saying thank you to the 
thousands of people that put the

2614
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,400
prayers out there. 
Thank you. 

2615
02:16:12,040 --> 02:16:15,600
Thank you. 
Yeah, buddy, it's been a rough 

2616
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,000
couple weeks. 
It didn't get any better, 

2617
02:16:18,000 --> 02:16:19,320
especially that it was at the 
holidays. 

2618
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,080
You guys, Steve has been light 
on social. 

2619
02:16:22,160 --> 02:16:24,480
You can tell he's emotional and 
I'm, I feel the same thing. 

2620
02:16:24,480 --> 02:16:26,360
I told him yesterday I was like,
I don't care about the blaze. 

2621
02:16:26,360 --> 02:16:27,360
I don't even care about the 
story. 

2622
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:29,600
I just care that he's all right.
And so that's a big deal for all

2623
02:16:29,600 --> 02:16:32,680
of us and for all of you that 
have been praying it it works 

2624
02:16:33,360 --> 02:16:39,879
and you're here with us today. 
So I God bless you man, for what

2625
02:16:39,879 --> 02:16:42,559
you're doing and for sitting 
here and, and thinking that this

2626
02:16:42,559 --> 02:16:45,400
was a good idea, even though you
probably were advised against it

2627
02:16:45,400 --> 02:16:48,280
by all your healthcare people. 
You too. 

2628
02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:50,600
You too, my friend. 
Well, the you know, the the, the

2629
02:16:50,600 --> 02:16:53,799
worst, the worst place to get 
rest is in the hospital. 

2630
02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:55,760
You know that's true. 
Yeah, I'm glad you're back home.

2631
02:16:55,760 --> 02:16:58,920
It's the one thing you need the 
most is rest and and of course 

2632
02:16:58,920 --> 02:17:01,520
they first thing 4:00 every 
morning, they kick the door up 

2633
02:17:01,520 --> 02:17:03,360
and there's a guy sticking 
needles in your arm drawing 

2634
02:17:03,360 --> 02:17:05,320
blood. 
And then at 5:30, they're doing 

2635
02:17:05,320 --> 02:17:08,559
your vitals and making you get 
out of bed and stand on a scale 

2636
02:17:08,559 --> 02:17:12,320
and you know, and then it just 
only gets worse as the day 

2637
02:17:13,879 --> 02:17:18,639
proceeds forward. 
So I, I did get, I did get some 

2638
02:17:18,639 --> 02:17:24,360
really good sleep my first night
home, which was Saturday night. 

2639
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:30,760
But then this story came out, 
this this filing came out and it

2640
02:17:30,760 --> 02:17:32,280
felt like I was back in the 
hospital again. 

2641
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:36,760
I believe that we did have a 
good moment about the the 

2642
02:17:36,760 --> 02:17:39,360
thermometers, which we'll save 
that for you today. 

2643
02:17:41,360 --> 02:17:42,920
Steve. 
Thanks for joining me, folks. 

2644
02:17:42,920 --> 02:17:45,200
Follow Steve and his work. 
You can make sure you put your 

2645
02:17:45,200 --> 02:17:47,959
notifications on like I do and 
you can see that they're on on 

2646
02:17:47,959 --> 02:17:52,879
the screen right now. 
It's at Steve, Steve Baker Baker

2647
02:17:53,080 --> 02:17:56,920
at Steve Baker USA, much easier 
than your old handle. 

2648
02:17:56,920 --> 02:17:59,400
I appreciate that you changed it
at Steve Baker USA. 

2649
02:17:59,400 --> 02:18:00,959
Follow him. 
He's an investigative reporter 

2650
02:18:00,959 --> 02:18:02,680
for The Blaze. 
He's investigative reporter for 

2651
02:18:02,680 --> 02:18:06,040
just Truth in general. 
And this stuff's coming out one 

2652
02:18:06,040 --> 02:18:07,840
way or another. 
So if anybody thinks it's going 

2653
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:10,879
to be hidden, it's going to 
happen and I will be part of it.

2654
02:18:10,959 --> 02:18:13,840
And and he's still alive. 
He's still in the fight. 

2655
02:18:13,879 --> 02:18:15,559
So God bless you, buddy. 
Thank you. 

2656
02:18:16,639 --> 02:18:18,639
I look forward to following up 
on this soon. 

2657
02:18:19,440 --> 02:18:21,160
That's, that's it for the day, 
folks. 

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Pray for Steve, keep it going. 
He's got a lot of recovery in 

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02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:27,160
front of him. 
Pray for this, this young man 

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02:18:27,160 --> 02:18:29,719
that's in prison right now or 
that's being detained and we'll 

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see what happens next. 
Make sure you're following us at

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the places you can. 
You can find us on Spotify, Kyle

2663
02:18:34,400 --> 02:18:35,959
seraphinshow.com. 
If you want to share with a 

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02:18:35,959 --> 02:18:37,160
friend. 
That is a really easy way to do 

2665
02:18:37,160 --> 02:18:38,320
it. 
Today's show is going to be 

2666
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really critical to understanding
a lot of this. 

2667
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You can find all the documents 
and stuff, the PDFs at 

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02:18:42,520 --> 02:18:44,959
kyleseraphin.com if you have us 
ever want to find us on locals 

2669
02:18:45,160 --> 02:18:46,959
And if you're watching on 
YouTube, if you're watching on 

2670
02:18:46,959 --> 02:18:50,480
Rumble, if you are, you know, 
watching on X, make sure you 

2671
02:18:50,480 --> 02:18:53,360
like what you're seeing. 
We're monetized on the 2 the 

2672
02:18:53,520 --> 02:18:54,879
previous two. 
I don't get any money out of the

2673
02:18:54,879 --> 02:18:56,879
X thing, although we're happy to
have the audience there join us 

2674
02:18:56,879 --> 02:18:59,040
on one of the monetized 
platforms for the really good 

2675
02:18:59,320 --> 02:19:02,639
for the really good chat that 
continues to be, I would say, 

2676
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the best chat in in media. 
So there you go. 

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All of you all make the show 
what it is. 

2678
02:19:06,760 --> 02:19:08,600
We're going to go all the way 
through the new year. 

2679
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We may have an abbreviated show 
on January 1st, but I intend to 

2680
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continue carrying the stuff out 
and tomorrow should be an 

2681
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interesting day. 
Remember, that's when the 

2682
02:19:15,440 --> 02:19:17,240
hearing's supposed to be. 
So we'll keep an eye on the 

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story and all the others and 
we'll do some like updates and 

2684
02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:22,440
what's been going on in the last
few days on a different day. 

2685
02:19:22,440 --> 02:19:23,719
I've had too much. 
This is a long 1. 

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So that is it for today's show. 
I hope you guys had a great 

2687
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Christmas. 
Merry Christmas to all of you on

2688
02:19:29,320 --> 02:19:31,600
this fifth day of Christmas, all
the way through Epiphany will be

2689
02:19:31,600 --> 02:19:33,559
saying Merry Christmas because 
that's how we do it here. 

2690
02:19:33,799 --> 02:19:37,760
And year 2026, I'm going to tell
you it's going to be the year of

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02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:41,200
the bacon cheeseburger 
nationalist. 

2692
02:19:41,600 --> 02:19:44,440
This is Kyle Seraphin's 
brainchild. 

2693
02:19:44,760 --> 02:19:49,000
This is the this is the thing 
that I think America is at The 

2694
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:50,880
people in the middle on the left
and the people in the middle on 

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02:19:50,880 --> 02:19:52,320
the right. 
We can all agree on a bacon 

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02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:54,000
cheeseburger. 
And if you're someone that 

2697
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:56,920
doesn't like or won't consume 
that, no matter what your 

2698
02:19:56,920 --> 02:20:00,920
reason, I think, I think you 
might be the minority. 

2699
02:20:00,920 --> 02:20:03,760
I think the majority of America 
is a bacon cheeseburger 

2700
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:06,000
nationalist. 
We care about this country. 

2701
02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:08,760
And we care about being able to 
do regular stuff, like we grew 

2702
02:20:08,760 --> 02:20:11,360
up at a diner. 
So look forward to that. 

2703
02:20:11,560 --> 02:20:14,120
Maybe we'll even merch it just 
because every time I've told 

2704
02:20:14,120 --> 02:20:16,680
somebody, like just a regular 
dude on the street, you tell 

2705
02:20:16,680 --> 02:20:18,760
them about bacon cheeseburger 
nationalism and they're like, 

2706
02:20:19,400 --> 02:20:21,800
Yep, yeah, that's that's that's 
my party. 

2707
02:20:22,320 --> 02:20:23,560
It's neither of those two 
parties. 

2708
02:20:24,040 --> 02:20:25,120
Maybe we'll get one for Brian 
Cole. 

2709
02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:27,040
Hopefully he's out soon. 
God bless all of you. 

2710
02:20:27,240 --> 02:20:28,280
Thanks for being here. 
No, pal. 

2711
02:20:28,280 --> 02:20:29,520
Cleanse today. 
We're going to just shut it 

2712
02:20:29,520 --> 02:20:30,760
down. 
We've gone extra long. 

2713
02:20:30,760 --> 02:20:32,920
And I look forward to seeing you
guys for the rest of this week. 

2714
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:37,800
Thanks for listening to the Kyle
Seraphin show, streamed live 

2715
02:20:37,800 --> 02:20:40,800
weekdays on rumble.com/kyle 
Seraphin. 

2716
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:45,120
Follow Kyle on Twitter, Truth 
Social and Instagram at Kyle 

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02:20:45,120 --> 02:20:45,800
Seraphin.
