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Take a look behind the curtain 
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Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serif. 
Hello my friends and welcome to 

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the Kyle Serafin Show for 
Thursday November the 2nd. 

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Today we're gonna be talking to 
a young woman who seems to have 

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it all pretty well squared away.
Young lady named Lily Kate, 

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We're going to be talking about 
anti feminism. 

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What the world is that? 
I thought everybody wanted to be

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a feminist. 
Wasn't that the thing? 

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Apparently there may be another 
path and a genzer is going to be

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leading the way. 
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that. 
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I think you are going to enjoy 

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That's an awful lot of time for 
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Go ahead and check it out. 
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Yo, I like that jam. 

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What do you guys think? 
Is that good? 

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It's got me popping. 
I'm glad I made that for you. 

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Also like wearing AT shirt 
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OK. 
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were talking to a very nice 
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And here we go. 
Let's do an interview with Lily.

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Kate, ladies and gentlemen, put 
your hands together. 

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No, don't put your hands 
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We are doing this digitally. 

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We are streaming it. 
But you are going to hear now 

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from your favourite 
antifeminist. 

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What is an antifeminist? 
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that. 
We are bringing on the one and 

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only Lily Kate. 
Lily Kate, welcome to the Kyle 

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Serafin Show. 
Hi. 

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Hi. 
Thank you so much for having me.

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You're smiling now, but this is 
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thing you do today. 
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I mean, I just worked out, so 
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Alright, let's work out your 
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OK? 
Luckily for you, you're going to

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So you've got that in your 
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So I want to know, where is Lily
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Where are you from? 
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I think it should be in the 
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but if they don't pick up on 
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OK, What is it that is unique 
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Texas Energy is you have a 
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you're, you have a level of self
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creativity. 
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Lone Star State and really 
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do have a very deep swamp. 
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combating more against that as 
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But yeah, Texas is really just 
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They just don't know it yet. 
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know, keep heading South because
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really darn loud. 
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Texas is. 
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independent place. 
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they don't know it yet. 
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Thank you. 
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Texas from New York and she's a 
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I think that since my 
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support that decision. 
You're not even involved in that

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conflict. 
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They've done good. 
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Although he does want to go to 
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school, so I don't know how 
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He's gonna have to get another 
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You wear the ring. 
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Let's talk about growing up in 
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What year were you born? 
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OK, 2002, which makes you about 
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a big that's a big year. 
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that one. 
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How did you see America? 
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All of the kids and our family. 
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My dad is a lawyer. 
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our schedules and our education 
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And I really attribute a lot of 
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have and the love for pursuing 
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My dad has seven degrees, and 
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He wants to get to 10 before his
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And so we've just been really 
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lifelong learners and a family 
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I think we can appreciate that. 
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do you fall in the birth order? 
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So 06 kids. 
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something wrong. 
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but I'm the oldest girl, so I 
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four younger siblings. 
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He's. 10/10 Well, you should 
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I know I just start losing count
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all get older then I just don't 
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That sounds like a parents 
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I have that I looked over when 
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test at the YMCA and the guys 
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And I was like, yeah, how old 
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I know she's five or six, but 
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I should know that 77, right? 
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They get older every year. 
That's going to be a challenge 

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for your whole life, it turns 
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Looking forward to it now. 
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He's older than you. 
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He is actually 17 months older 
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he's now Colorado and just got 
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And he also just became the 
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the United States. 
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So we're very proud of him. 
What is Spikeball? 

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Spikeball is a new sport that's 
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It's essentially like where you 
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round net in the middle that's 
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ground. 
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you, each of you all stand 
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the ball. 
I really don't know all the 

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rules, to be honest, but he's 
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the world at it. 
Officially. 

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Now he's officially one of the 
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that we didn't know existed 
until you just told us. 

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But now we're excited. 
Listen, it's going to be, you're

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going to hear about it and it's 
it's a lot bigger than I guess 

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you would think. 
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from the college campus system 
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But I'm saying let's just make 
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If anyone's tracking that, she 
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I just heard it. 
I laced it in a nice compliment,

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but I'll say 10 years and it'll 
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Really. 
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Is that going to take over to? 
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I don't know. 
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gymnastics, OK, Did you do 
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I I consider gymnastics a sport.
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And then I had the Tommy Johns 
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moved to dancing and then broke 
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And so I decided, you know what?
Maybe this isn't for me. 

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So I started pursuing academic 
speech and debate and then built

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a YouTube channel and then 
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And so here I am now. 
Now, one of the things that 

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people will detract from 
homeschoolers. 

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My kids are home schooled down, 
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But I went to, I went to 
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People always used to say when I
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homeschoolers end up weird and 
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You don't seem to be those 
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Tell me about that. 
That's such a common stereotype,

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and to be honest, I've met quite
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only their only social 
interaction were like the 

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chickens on the farm. 
And while we love and appreciate

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those people, we want to help 
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I think assuming that. 
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into public school and they're 
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come out the other end. 
Well socialised is kind of a 

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really big assumption and a big 
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The type of home schooling that 
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community. 
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homeschooling heaven of Texas. 
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person is home schooled. 
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churches, co-ops and things like
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So lots of resources here to be 
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wholesome and well rounded home 
school education, but we had to 

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go out. 
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intentional. 
We had to really curate 

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friendships ourselves. 
It took a lot of active work. 

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We our house was like the big 
party house too, and having so 

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many siblings, we were always 
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So really, while that is a 
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I find that a lot of home 
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socialised because they can talk
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conversations, they have things 
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generally I think the art of 
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lost. 
We've become a generation of 

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people who really only know how 
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It's almost like when we talk to
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like, like or comment. 
And that's pretty much all that 

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we can add to conversations 
anymore, Especially you see this

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in Generation Z. 
And so I find that homeschoolers

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are much more engaging in 
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socialised in that way because 
we've had to be so intentional 

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about our relationships. 
I think that's a good, 

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interesting idea. 
Do you know that Daniel Tosh 

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supposedly was home schooled as 
well? 

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The comedian. 
Oh, I didn't know that. 

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But that's that's good to know. 
Maybe that's why he's so snarky.

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He's got some pretty good, you 
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Could be that. 
Or he's just a great writer. 

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I think he's a great writer as 
well. 

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All right, so did your parents 
follow a curriculum? 

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I think that's the other thing. 
My my wife went out and found 

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some curriculums. 
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curriculum? 
Were they making it up with 

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their own? 
You got a dad with a bunch of 

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degrees. 
He probably could figure it out.

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But how did that work out? 
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So at the beginning, my parents 
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like home school conferences, 
which they truly do have those. 

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And they shopped around at all 
these different places that had 

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different curriculums for 
different subjects. 

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So the people we took math from 
were different than the people 

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we learned history from or 
different than the people we 

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learned grammar from. 
And they essentially just picked

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a pick and pick and choose 
whatever they decided what they 

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wanted to, what they wanted to 
pursue. 

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And then later in our education 
they put us into like a Co op 

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who that was a classical 
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So we were able to. 
Really, instead of learning the 

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basics of math and science and 
prepping for SAT, they would 

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bring us in and say here's a 
Bible, here's a current events 

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book, or here's a current event 
that's happening. 

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You have 5 minutes to make a 
speech go. 

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And we were graded on those 
types of things, How well we 

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debated, defended our arguments,
how well we discussed how well 

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we gave speeches as opposed to 
traditional STEM activities. 

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And so that was really the the 
part of my high school education

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that was taken out of my parents
hand. 

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But they definitely laid the 
foundation with the curriculums 

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they chose. 
Now you've described yourself as

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an anti feminist. 
What are the expectations when 

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you were growing up? 
What were the expectations and 

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were they different for for boys
and girls in your family? 

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No, Well. 
The expectations for me were and

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still are to choose well when I 
get married and to be a 

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Christian and. 
Really to just pursue what makes

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me happy and fulfilled and you 
know outside of having a 

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beautiful and good marriage and 
also being a Christian. 

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And so really the expectation 
for my parents has been do what 

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you are filled by, but also 
don't forget about the things 

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that really matter which are 
family and faith. 

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And so essentially that's been 
the expectation for all of my 

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siblings. 
We've all been really lucky 

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because my dad's motto is money 
into memories. 

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And so we spent. 
He spends most of his money on 

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us, making sure that we're 
taking care of, but also that we

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have. 
Been able to travel the world 

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and pursue things that we've 
wanted to. 

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We've never had a lack, which 
has been just so wonderful and 

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has set us, set all of my 
siblings up for success and 

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completely different areas, 
completely different industries.

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So yeah, the expectation really 
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Take your face seriously, marry 
well, meaning a good Christian 

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person, and then appreciate 
family and just then pursue on 

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top of that whatever makes you 
happy and fulfilled. 

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I didn't hear that you had to be
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career. 
There's none of the lawyer, the 

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doctor thing that I kind of grew
up with in the in the 80s and a 

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lot of the sort of the Gen Xers 
remember that was the success. 

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You know, if your kid was a 
lawyer or a doctor, they win. 

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Was there any push for that? 
Did you guys see that? 

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Were you seeing your colleagues 
that had that sort of ideas and,

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you know, did you guys push back
at all? 

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I think my parents have an 
assuredness that all their kids 

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are going to be sort of 
successful in their own ways. 

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And so my parents never 
specifically pushed that on to 

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us. 
I think the only things that my 

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parents pushed was, hey, if 
you're a guy, you should 

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probably go to college because 
as it's looking, none of the 

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girls in our family are going to
go to college because I started 

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my own business. 
My sister Laura is going to be a

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Broadway dancer and hopefully a 
Rockette one day. 

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And then my other sister Annie 
is a fashion lifestyle, vlogging

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YouTuber who has almost so many 
million subscribers. 

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So we're all kind of trying to 
be successful in our own. 

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Say the expectation for my 
peers, I would say there were 

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definitely, you know, some 
families who the dad did this 

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career and the son must do this 
career and the daughter must all

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also follow suit. 
But my parents were never about 

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forcing us to do anything 
because maybe it's just like the

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British Isles, Ness and the 
rebellious Scottish Fighting 

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Irish that we have in us. 
But they knew that they couldn't

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exactly make us into who they 
wanted us to be. 

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All they could do was guide and 
allow us to choose what we 

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wanted to do and they would be 
our like assistance and our 

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support system along the way. 
So the approach though my 

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parents took was very much they 
can guide, they can lead, and we

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will make sure that they're 
maintaining good morals. 

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They're still learning how to 
read, they're still learning how

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to write, and we'll help them 
accomplish whatever they need 

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to. 
And we'll be there every step of

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the way. 
Alright, fair enough. 

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Let's talk about feminism a 
little bit, shall we? 

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That's what you That's kind of 
where you made your bones. 

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Is that fair? 
Yeah, let's do it. 

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What is feminism today? 
There are lots of people who 

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would say it's a movement about 
equality and achieving equality.

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That's not true. 
Feminism today has become a 

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movement that is focused on. 
Female domination over men and 

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eradication of any perceived. 
Meaning not real male hierarchy.

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In any institution or in any 
place of power. 

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So it's essentially A Marxist 
organisation of ideology that 

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ties a woman's value to money. 
And is that good for women? 

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Is not good for women. 
Tell me some of the downfalls. 

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What do you see from your end? 
Cause you're pretty young. 

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There's a lot of people in, 
probably in my audience, that 

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were driven to go to work. 
They were driven to be 

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successful in careers, whatever 
that means. 

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And you know, the definition of 
what was successful for women 

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and what we were going to 
support as a society has morphed

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dramatically, even in my 40 
years on the planet. 

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So I'm curious how you see it. 
How I see defining women's 

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success or what are the pitfalls
of feminism? 

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Yeah, the pitfalls. 
What is it? 

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What is it kind of changed into 
for them? 

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Got it. 
Yeah. 

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So. 
Well, I guess we need to start 

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with where Marxism was basically
the birth of feminism, So out of

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the French Revolution, like so 
many other bad ideas. 

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That's where all the bad ideas 
in the world came from. 

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There was this group of women, 
middle class women, who were 

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very unsatisfied with the lives 
that they had. 

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And they decided, huh, let's 
start having a thought 

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revolution and start just 
putting ideas into women's minds

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that we are. 
Being treated badly, we are 

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oppressed like we are all the 
things that we want to claim the

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victim to. 
And essentially with that 

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complaining mindset, they found 
Marxism and decided, I guess all

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men are oppressing all women 
everywhere. 

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And they kind of set up feminism
within the framework of Marxism,

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which was men are oppressors, 
women are oppressed, men hold 

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the power and they're actively 
trying to take away the power 

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from women. 
And so essentially what that 

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turned into was. 
The pursuit of achieving 

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equality for. 
Everyone. 

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But then shortly after achieving
that, it morphed into OK, well, 

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we need to keep going with this.
So let's have women start 

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dominating men. 
And so the pitfalls of thinking 

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that way is you get a bunch of 
women who are trying to not 

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empower women or empower 
themselves, but to be and 

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compete with men. 
Because essentially from the 

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beginning, feminism asked the 
question, why are women not 

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making as much money as men? 
Let's just take the most blatant

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example that they they always 
like to bring up the wage gap, 

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right? 
And they say well, instead of 

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how can we? 
Allow women to make more money. 

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It's been OK well, how can women
compete with men to just beat 

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men at the games that they play?
So recently I posted a video 

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saying that the question has 
never been what can we do to 

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empower women with feminism? 
It's what can we do to compete 

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with men or make women more like
men? 

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So the pitfalls of that, I 
think, are pretty obvious. 

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If you're a woman and you're 
trying to be masculine, or 

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you're trying to be a man or 
you're trying to compete with a 

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man in arena that is 
traditionally been an arena that

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only men compete. 
And one you're not going to do 

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that. 
Well, you're not going to 

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compete well, you're not going 
to be fulfilled and happy. 

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And in fact, you're going to end
up a lot of times alone and 

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lonely when you're in that arena
because you're a woman competing

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against a bunch of men in an in 
a in a way that you think you 

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need to compete against a bunch 
of men. 

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So the pitfalls of that are why 
would a woman try and do 

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something that a man should do? 
So women came up with this in 

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the French Revolution, and then 
how did it morph into the United

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States? 
What was the sort of the the, 

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the foothold that it took here? 
That's a great question. 

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This is like such a fun topic to
talk about. 

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So essentially after the French 
Revolution and of course you had

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a mass migration of people 
coming over and then you have 

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the rise of real academia and 
the idea of let's just, you 

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know, have all the crazy radical
leftist ideas, let's have them 

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boiling in academia. 
And then we'll start talking to 

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in peoples ears about what 
society should look like and 

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what why Marxism is good and why
this way of thinking is good. 

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And so kind of a couple things 
were happening at the same time 

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after the French Revolution. 
So you had the birth of real 

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academia in the West generally, 
but you also had urbanisation 

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and kind of the industrial 
revolution that happened, which 

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for the first time took the 
economy away from the household.

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So before this, for all of human
history, the economy has been 

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what can a household produce? 
And it was based first and 

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foremost around the house and 
the family. 

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That was the basic unit. 
But as you have cities start 

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cropping up and people actually 
going in to work and you have 

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factories and you have 
efficiency becoming the main 

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goal of a capitalist society, 
you see that since men 

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traditionally are more fit to go
work and don't have the quote 

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unquote like the feminists like 
to call it, burden of childcare.

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Men would go into the cities and
do the work and then either come

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back out or the whole family 
would move into the city. 

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And this is talked about in 
depth in this book, Feminism 

455
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,850
Against Progress. 
An excellent book, definitely. 

456
00:22:14,860 --> 00:22:17,250
Should I definitely recommend it
if you're in for an academic 

457
00:22:17,260 --> 00:22:21,100
study. 
But so women started for the 

458
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:25,180
first time asking the question, 
well, why am I not allowed to 

459
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:27,440
quote unquote, participate in 
society? 

460
00:22:27,450 --> 00:22:31,130
Because public and private life 
had been split because of the 

461
00:22:31,140 --> 00:22:35,460
industrial revolution and where 
urbanisation and the use of 

462
00:22:35,470 --> 00:22:39,880
factories and the de emphasis of
the family was going. 

463
00:22:39,970 --> 00:22:44,550
So you have academia pushing 
these ideas of women's 

464
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:48,220
liberation and women domination,
and actually let's frame 

465
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:51,760
feminism as a Marxist idea. 
And then you had the economy 

466
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:57,630
start changing, um, and you had 
all the the ways that people 

467
00:22:57,700 --> 00:23:00,940
were able to make money 
completely changing and being 

468
00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:04,030
more emphasised on individual 
productivity as opposed to the 

469
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:08,110
families productivity. 
And then you had this societal 

470
00:23:08,120 --> 00:23:13,490
wide split of public and private
life and women often in like 

471
00:23:13,500 --> 00:23:16,070
after the industrial revolution 
and as it was continuing into 

472
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:20,160
the 1900s, you had a lot of 
women who were saying, I don't 

473
00:23:20,170 --> 00:23:23,310
know if I necessarily like this 
new way that the economy is 

474
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,150
formed. 
So you have all three of those 

475
00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,910
things happening at once. 
And that's really where the idea

476
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:31,850
of feminism started springing 
up. 

477
00:23:31,860 --> 00:23:37,190
And so feminism used to be an 
answer to an economic or trying 

478
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:41,330
to be that is, an answer to an 
economic question, to a legal 

479
00:23:41,340 --> 00:23:46,010
question, to a social question, 
to a political question, and 

480
00:23:46,020 --> 00:23:51,110
also to a biological question. 
Unfortunately, now you have the 

481
00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:54,770
legal questions answered, which 
is, yeah, everyone can vote. 

482
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,630
Yeah, you can't get paid less 
because you're a woman. 

483
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,460
You know, you can't be 
discriminated against because of

484
00:24:01,470 --> 00:24:04,640
your sex. 
But feminism, unfortunately, 

485
00:24:04,650 --> 00:24:07,900
hasn't been able to answer the 
biological question, which is 

486
00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:10,400
why are there differences 
between men and women? 

487
00:24:10,930 --> 00:24:15,260
And now feminism's primary goal 
is to erase the differences 

488
00:24:15,270 --> 00:24:18,160
between men and women. 
So a lot of times it sounds like

489
00:24:18,210 --> 00:24:21,680
I'm trying to just, like, put 
women back in the home, 

490
00:24:21,690 --> 00:24:25,920
permanently repeal the 19th, you
know, all of that kind of stuff.

491
00:24:25,970 --> 00:24:28,640
I'm not trying to do that. 
I'm trying to help women 

492
00:24:28,650 --> 00:24:32,670
understand that the way that the
world has existed for like all 

493
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,930
of human history has not been 
focused on the individual, it's 

494
00:24:35,940 --> 00:24:40,120
been focused on the family. 
And feminism had some good 

495
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:41,740
things that it helped 
accomplish. 

496
00:24:41,750 --> 00:24:44,280
They're not responsible for all 
the accomplishments. 

497
00:24:44,730 --> 00:24:48,480
We can go into that in a little 
bit, a little bit later, but and

498
00:24:48,490 --> 00:24:51,120
then feminism just kept going 
and has really turned into 

499
00:24:51,130 --> 00:24:54,700
something sour that is anti 
woman that is inherently 

500
00:24:54,710 --> 00:24:57,460
extremely Marxist and is really 
just destructive for the 

501
00:24:57,470 --> 00:25:00,980
feminine side of women which 
should never be discounted. 

502
00:25:02,410 --> 00:25:05,190
My wife says, who thinks about 
these kind of things all the 

503
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,130
time? 
This is something that's 

504
00:25:06,140 --> 00:25:07,930
probably more fascinating to her
in a lot of ways. 

505
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:12,310
She says that current feminism 
is essentially internalised 

506
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:17,310
misogyny and and it essentially 
has taken on masculine roles and

507
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,190
pushed them on women and made 
women compete as men. 

508
00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:22,420
It sounds like you guys would 
probably be in agreement on 

509
00:25:22,430 --> 00:25:23,570
that. 
Do you have any sort of 

510
00:25:23,860 --> 00:25:27,290
disagreements on that idea? 
I mean, your wife is exactly 

511
00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:30,700
right and she sounds amazing, 
Lena Gordon said. 

512
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:34,170
The nuclear family must be 
destroyed and people must find a

513
00:25:34,180 --> 00:25:38,140
better way of living together, 
Robin Morgan actually said, I 

514
00:25:38,150 --> 00:25:41,620
feel that man hating is an 
honourable and viable political 

515
00:25:41,630 --> 00:25:45,740
act, that the oppressed have the
right to class hatred against 

516
00:25:45,750 --> 00:25:47,560
the class that is oppressing 
them. 

517
00:25:47,630 --> 00:25:51,960
And actually this is a fun one. 
Sally Miller Gearhart had a 

518
00:25:51,970 --> 00:25:54,260
couple pages in this essay 
called The Future. 

519
00:25:54,270 --> 00:25:57,920
If there was. 
If one is female, she said the 

520
00:25:57,930 --> 00:26:01,460
proportion of men must be 
reduced to and maintain 

521
00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:04,580
approximately 10% of the human 
race. 

522
00:26:04,690 --> 00:26:09,510
And so while I agree with your 
wife sentiment that yes, it's 

523
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,650
become this internalised 
completely, this internalised 

524
00:26:12,660 --> 00:26:16,470
misogyny against men trying to 
replace men in any hierarchy and

525
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,950
any structure to tear down the 
structures that we have, there's

526
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,670
actually a something that takes 
it a little farther, where 

527
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,450
you're like, Oh no, these women 
want to hate men and destroy men

528
00:26:26,460 --> 00:26:30,070
and every chance that they get. 
Do you think any of them are 

529
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,810
happy? 
Oh, of course not. 

530
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,880
My favourite example of this, 
and maybe you think I'm a little

531
00:26:35,890 --> 00:26:39,570
gruesome for thinking this is 
ironic, but Shulamith Firestone 

532
00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,070
was a radical feminist thinker 
in the 1950s, sixties and 70s, 

533
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,590
and she absolutely hated the 
nuclear family. 

534
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,770
In fact, she said that the 
revolutionary or utopian goal of

535
00:26:51,780 --> 00:26:54,290
feminism was to Oh no, that was 
Kate Millett. 

536
00:26:54,300 --> 00:26:58,090
Shulamith Firestone said is it's
the nuclear family is the most 

537
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,710
neurotic lifestyle that we've 
ever developed and we need to 

538
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,220
completely abolish it. 
And it means possible. 

539
00:27:03,370 --> 00:27:05,180
Who's going to raise the kids, 
right? 

540
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:07,400
Well, here's how her story 
ended. 

541
00:27:07,450 --> 00:27:12,620
She froze and starved to death 
in her own apartment. 

542
00:27:12,690 --> 00:27:16,220
And people found her a month 
later because they started 

543
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:21,020
smelling that her body was 
decaying and she had no friends,

544
00:27:21,030 --> 00:27:22,500
really. 
She had no family. 

545
00:27:22,510 --> 00:27:25,360
And she was a super radical 
feminist that rejected marriage,

546
00:27:25,370 --> 00:27:28,880
that rejected family, that hated
children, and that spent all of 

547
00:27:28,890 --> 00:27:32,200
her life trying to just raise 
this ruckus about how women are 

548
00:27:32,210 --> 00:27:34,220
oppressed. 
And so I always like to bring 

549
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:36,200
that up because that is the 
meanwhile. 

550
00:27:36,210 --> 00:27:40,330
That is an extreme example. 
You don't want to go down a path

551
00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:42,710
where you are man hating. 
You are family hating. 

552
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,160
You are life hating because 
there is a chance that you could

553
00:27:45,170 --> 00:27:48,900
end up like that, that no one 
you have, nobody close to you, 

554
00:27:48,910 --> 00:27:52,060
nobody cares about you until 
they're starting to smell your 

555
00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:55,300
rotting, dead body through the 
walls of your apartment. 

556
00:27:55,410 --> 00:27:57,350
You want to know? 
The sad irony is, is that it was

557
00:27:57,360 --> 00:27:59,700
a man that broke in that door to
go in and get her body out. 

558
00:27:59,710 --> 00:28:02,140
It was probably a man or several
men that carried her out of 

559
00:28:02,150 --> 00:28:04,070
there. 
Because that's that's who does 

560
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,840
those jobs. 
I'd say that as someone who's 

561
00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:08,120
worked as a paramedic, has 
worked in law enforcement and 

562
00:28:08,130 --> 00:28:11,160
has had to recover dead bodies, 
it's not a fun game. 

563
00:28:11,250 --> 00:28:13,850
But I also would never wish it 
on my wife or my daughters. 

564
00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:17,010
I don't want that for them. 
It's a burden that I would take 

565
00:28:17,020 --> 00:28:18,140
on. 
There's something I want to kind

566
00:28:18,150 --> 00:28:20,890
of double back to because I want
to use with you a little bit on 

567
00:28:20,900 --> 00:28:21,770
this. 
Yeah. 

568
00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:24,950
The dismantling of the nuclear 
family and that. 

569
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,690
It happened a lot during the 
Industrial Revolution when we 

570
00:28:27,700 --> 00:28:31,070
changed the nature of work. 
And and there's something kind 

571
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,370
of fascinating there. 
Do you remember maybe you don't 

572
00:28:33,380 --> 00:28:34,730
know this. 
Elizabeth Warren wrote a book 

573
00:28:34,740 --> 00:28:37,070
called The Two Income Trap. 
Have you ever seen her sort of 

574
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:40,240
evolution to be sort of a wild 
feminist from where she used to 

575
00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:44,380
live in her mental state? 
To be completely honest, I 

576
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:46,680
haven't paid too much attention 
to her because she just sounds 

577
00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:49,100
like a vapid, screaming old 
woman at this point. 

578
00:28:49,390 --> 00:28:54,080
She does, yeah. 
So I haven't read that, but I 

579
00:28:54,090 --> 00:28:55,760
am. 
I'm aware of of what she talks 

580
00:28:55,770 --> 00:28:57,480
about, yeah. 
So, so let me let me throw this 

581
00:28:57,490 --> 00:28:59,660
into your lexicon because you 
might find this fascinating. 

582
00:28:59,670 --> 00:29:02,030
Not so much because she's a 
great thought leader. 

583
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:03,680
I don't much care for Elizabeth 
Warren either. 

584
00:29:04,390 --> 00:29:06,690
And she's got that, like, I'm 
gonna get me a beer or whatever.

585
00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:09,060
Those like weird videos of her 
just trying to be her person. 

586
00:29:09,070 --> 00:29:10,740
She's trying so hard to be a 
person, right? 

587
00:29:11,330 --> 00:29:14,380
She's more like, she's more like
a lizard person, I'm sure, but 

588
00:29:14,810 --> 00:29:17,640
but she she didn't used to be. 
Looney. 

589
00:29:17,650 --> 00:29:20,580
Her party has actually sort of 
run off and she's followed that 

590
00:29:20,590 --> 00:29:23,690
like so many women her her age 
have decided that that's where 

591
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,720
the power structure is. 
So they're chasing that power. 

592
00:29:25,770 --> 00:29:29,720
She used to advocate on behalf 
of a 2 income trap. 

593
00:29:29,790 --> 00:29:33,120
Which is to say that men and 
women both working in the 

594
00:29:33,130 --> 00:29:36,580
workplace would end up in a 
worse position. 

595
00:29:36,650 --> 00:29:39,400
Because rather than relying on 
one income and what we would 

596
00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:42,180
call in the military a single 
point of failure, if you fail as

597
00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:45,080
a man and you're in the 
workplace, there's the potential

598
00:29:45,090 --> 00:29:48,060
that your cottage industry, you 
talked about taking the work out

599
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:49,900
of the house, the cottage 
industry. 

600
00:29:50,030 --> 00:29:52,080
Would be able to back you up. 
Maybe your wife has a selling 

601
00:29:52,090 --> 00:29:54,580
business. 
Maybe your wife makes brownies 

602
00:29:54,590 --> 00:29:56,850
and sells them at a bake sale. 
I don't know, like whatever it 

603
00:29:56,860 --> 00:29:58,910
is, maybe the woman that works 
at home, maybe she has. 

604
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,490
Maybe she's a counsellor like my
wife and she works part time and

605
00:30:01,500 --> 00:30:03,720
she keeps that. 
So maybe she has that ability. 

606
00:30:03,730 --> 00:30:05,760
My wife doesn't work right now 
other than taking care of kids. 

607
00:30:05,770 --> 00:30:08,600
But if she did, she would she 
would she would work as a 

608
00:30:08,610 --> 00:30:10,500
counsellor because that's what 
her degree was in. 

609
00:30:10,570 --> 00:30:13,160
And so if she were to go do 
that, she could theoretically 

610
00:30:13,170 --> 00:30:16,860
supplement that that point of 
failure that I might have and be

611
00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:20,160
able to keep us floating. 
But what we've done, according 

612
00:30:20,170 --> 00:30:22,180
to Elizabeth Warren, this is the
fear she saw going back to, 

613
00:30:22,190 --> 00:30:24,440
like, the early 2000s. 
In 2002, probably about the time

614
00:30:24,450 --> 00:30:27,000
you were born, we'd have to see 
when that actual book was 

615
00:30:27,010 --> 00:30:28,270
written. 
But what she said was, is that 

616
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,390
if men and women both compete 
and they both put their incomes 

617
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,920
into the market. 
You're going to have two incomes

618
00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:39,520
worth of competition for things 
like childcare, for things like 

619
00:30:39,530 --> 00:30:42,320
homes, for things like 
schooling, private education, so

620
00:30:42,330 --> 00:30:43,620
on. 
And you're going to bump those 

621
00:30:43,630 --> 00:30:46,320
prices all the way up to the 
point where now it's not 1 

622
00:30:46,330 --> 00:30:47,860
income that you're competing, 
it's two. 

623
00:30:47,930 --> 00:30:50,730
So a guy like me who has only 
has one income, I'm now 

624
00:30:50,740 --> 00:30:53,240
competing against double income 
if I want to put my kids into 

625
00:30:53,250 --> 00:30:55,510
private schools or to buy houses
or everything else, and it's 

626
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:56,660
going to make it worse for 
everybody. 

627
00:30:56,670 --> 00:31:00,060
And if one of those two fails, 
the mom or the dad has a 

628
00:31:00,070 --> 00:31:02,660
problem. 
Now you've lost 50%. 

629
00:31:02,670 --> 00:31:05,240
Or maybe you've lost 30% of your
income and there's no one to 

630
00:31:05,250 --> 00:31:07,960
make it up right? 
So this was the two income tract

631
00:31:07,970 --> 00:31:09,720
that Elizabeth Warren actually 
used to know about. 

632
00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:12,100
A lot of that sounds like it 
goes back to the industrial 

633
00:31:12,110 --> 00:31:13,460
revolution. 
What you're saying is just 

634
00:31:13,470 --> 00:31:15,140
fascinating to me. 
Yeah, it really does. 

635
00:31:15,150 --> 00:31:18,740
Because if you just put, you 
know, 50% more people in the 

636
00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:21,250
workforce, then you're going to 
have a lot more labour to go 

637
00:31:21,260 --> 00:31:23,360
around. 
Therefore prices are not or 

638
00:31:23,490 --> 00:31:26,260
labour and and what people can 
make, the prices are not going 

639
00:31:26,270 --> 00:31:28,370
to go up. 
Like wages have not gone up and 

640
00:31:28,380 --> 00:31:31,330
obviously you have inflation and
you have taxes and you have all 

641
00:31:31,340 --> 00:31:36,060
the macroeconomics competing. 
For example, like in a minimum 

642
00:31:36,070 --> 00:31:39,830
wage proportional proportional 
to inflation from like 100 years

643
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:43,680
ago should be $55. 
But it's obviously not because 

644
00:31:43,690 --> 00:31:47,140
just that's how the dollar is 
and it's based on debt and it's 

645
00:31:47,150 --> 00:31:52,260
based on nothing at this point. 
So yeah, and I think wages 

646
00:31:52,270 --> 00:31:55,380
haven't grown for so long 
because of obviously the 

647
00:31:55,390 --> 00:31:59,130
macroeconomics of it, but 
because there is so much more 

648
00:31:59,140 --> 00:32:03,120
labour to go around. 
And essentially when feminism 

649
00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:07,220
adopted Marxism as the framework
in which they thought it came 

650
00:32:07,230 --> 00:32:11,510
along with the consequences of 
hyper almost capitalism saying, 

651
00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:14,570
you know what a woman's value is
not the fact that she brings 

652
00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:16,790
life into the world, that she's 
a culture creator, that she's 

653
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,860
beautiful, all the things it 
said. 

654
00:32:18,870 --> 00:32:21,340
No woman's value is her 
productivity as well. 

655
00:32:21,350 --> 00:32:27,260
Because Americans, while we love
the individualism we have, you 

656
00:32:27,270 --> 00:32:30,320
know, hyper individualism is not
great either. 

657
00:32:30,390 --> 00:32:34,900
And so if we continue pushing 
the idea that productivity is on

658
00:32:34,910 --> 00:32:38,960
an individual level based on how
much, I'm sorry, value is on an 

659
00:32:38,970 --> 00:32:42,110
individual level based on how 
much productivity you have, and 

660
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,320
then you have a bunch of women 
into the workforce, then you 

661
00:32:45,330 --> 00:32:47,100
were in the situation that we're
in. 

662
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:50,030
And I'm really worried for 
Generation Z because not 

663
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,040
everyone generational wealth 
isn't really a thing in America.

664
00:32:54,050 --> 00:32:57,020
It's not really a thing all 
around the world and in the West

665
00:32:57,030 --> 00:33:00,280
generally anymore, But how like 
we're screwed. 

666
00:33:00,350 --> 00:33:02,590
All the land has pretty much 
been bought up. 

667
00:33:02,660 --> 00:33:05,480
Rent is extremely expensive, 
food is expensive. 

668
00:33:05,490 --> 00:33:09,070
How is anyone in my generation 
going to be able to get ahead 

669
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:13,470
outside of having super big 
entrepreneurial dreams or you 

670
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,770
know, really fancy white collar 
jobs like being a lawyer or 

671
00:33:16,780 --> 00:33:21,250
being a doctor which take 
almost, you know, $500,000 to be

672
00:33:21,260 --> 00:33:24,870
able just to practise law or to 
be a doctor. 

673
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:28,830
So it's just like the cost of 
entry so high now that I just 

674
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,290
don't know how my generation's 
going to get ahead. 

675
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:36,150
And again, I don't think the the
fix for this necessarily is 

676
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,350
taking all women out of the 
workforce. 

677
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:41,290
That's not practical. 
I wouldn't want to put a bunch 

678
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:44,370
of women out of work just to 
accomplish my anti feminist 

679
00:33:44,380 --> 00:33:46,960
goals. 
But our generation Gen Z, we 

680
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,320
have a very serious conversation
about like how in the world are 

681
00:33:50,330 --> 00:33:53,870
we going to be able to do this 
if two incomes is completely the

682
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:57,290
norm, but nobody's making the 
same amount of money and prices 

683
00:33:57,300 --> 00:34:00,440
keep going up. 
And and women don't seem to be 

684
00:34:00,450 --> 00:34:02,840
any happier because of it, at 
least when we look down the line

685
00:34:02,850 --> 00:34:06,250
of the 5067 year old feminist 
who may or may not die in their 

686
00:34:06,260 --> 00:34:08,400
apartment alone and have their 
cats eat their face kind of 

687
00:34:08,409 --> 00:34:10,340
thing, right? 
I mean, that was always the fear

688
00:34:10,350 --> 00:34:12,060
when I was a kid that people 
would talk about, oh, you don't 

689
00:34:12,070 --> 00:34:15,400
want to end up alone and have 
your cats eating you like the 

690
00:34:15,409 --> 00:34:18,800
crazy cat lady sort of stigma. 
It's still there. 

691
00:34:18,870 --> 00:34:21,440
It's still. 
There and and it's real because 

692
00:34:21,449 --> 00:34:23,480
there are some really angry. 
Do you think some women that are

693
00:34:23,489 --> 00:34:26,159
in that age bracket, the 50s 
through the 70s, maybe even the 

694
00:34:26,250 --> 00:34:28,900
the early 80s, are pushing this 
because they're vindictive and 

695
00:34:28,909 --> 00:34:31,199
they feel like they got conned 
and they want your generation to

696
00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:33,159
eat it too, Have some of that? 
Yeah. 

697
00:34:33,170 --> 00:34:35,400
No, that's such a good point. 
And I think there's a lot of 

698
00:34:35,409 --> 00:34:38,120
truth to that because misery 
loves company more than anything

699
00:34:38,130 --> 00:34:40,550
else. 
And so if you're miserable and 

700
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,320
have been tricked and you bought
into a scam for your whole 

701
00:34:43,330 --> 00:34:46,300
entire life and you have no one 
around you, you have no 

702
00:34:46,310 --> 00:34:49,760
children, you have no husband, 
you have nothing to pour your 

703
00:34:49,770 --> 00:34:53,440
energy in, that natural want to 
give, that women have, what are 

704
00:34:53,449 --> 00:34:54,860
you going to do? 
You're going to turn into a 

705
00:34:54,870 --> 00:34:59,900
sour, bitter, old person who is 
miserable and has been eaten and

706
00:34:59,950 --> 00:35:02,450
eaten up and chewed up and spit 
out by the world. 

707
00:35:02,460 --> 00:35:04,890
And so of course you're going to
want to have people buy into it.

708
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,800
Now, there obviously are many 
stories that I've seen, many 

709
00:35:08,810 --> 00:35:12,140
women who are like, yeah, man, I
bought into that feminist lie 

710
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:13,900
and that is, it is not good 
women. 

711
00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:17,060
I've known personally stories 
published as op eds and 

712
00:35:17,070 --> 00:35:20,430
editorial opinion pieces around 
the news. 

713
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,400
Like, you'll occasionally see a 
story pop up of, yeah, I really 

714
00:35:23,410 --> 00:35:26,460
regret the decisions that I made
because of feminism. 

715
00:35:26,470 --> 00:35:31,500
But until women decide to really
wake up and see that this is 

716
00:35:31,510 --> 00:35:35,540
such a rotten deal for them and 
it's such a scam, then you know 

717
00:35:35,550 --> 00:35:38,270
they're just going to continue 
to do it because all our older 

718
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,310
women are telling us no, no, 
it's the best thing that you 

719
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,790
could do. 
I love the fact that I'm an 

720
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,470
executive assistant to the CEO. 
I'm submitting to another man 

721
00:35:46,540 --> 00:35:48,010
outside of submitting to my 
husband. 

722
00:35:48,020 --> 00:35:50,970
In fact, I divorced my husband 
and got half of his land anyway.

723
00:35:50,980 --> 00:35:53,800
It's great. 
Gross, right. 

724
00:35:53,860 --> 00:35:56,270
So gross. 
It's really gross. 

725
00:35:56,580 --> 00:35:58,970
It I I do feel like there's an 
awakening though, that's 

726
00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:00,910
happening that women are 
starting to look at it and think

727
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:02,870
they got a raw deal. 
I heard people like Brett Cooper

728
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:04,670
the other day say that sort of 
thing. 

729
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,970
She's just like, you know, we're
sort of programmed to do 

730
00:36:06,980 --> 00:36:09,070
something very different and 
we're fighting against our 

731
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:10,780
nature. 
She's very young. 

732
00:36:10,790 --> 00:36:12,540
You're pretty young. 
You've got some pretty advanced 

733
00:36:12,550 --> 00:36:15,760
ideas compared to what, you 
know, it took my wife years. 

734
00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:17,560
We didn't figure this out and 
thing out until we were in our 

735
00:36:17,570 --> 00:36:19,630
30s and you seem really ahead of
the curve. 

736
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,550
Are there people in your age 
bracket that are starting to 

737
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,800
look and go like maybe you guys 
don't have to figure out? 

738
00:36:23,810 --> 00:36:26,890
You don't seem that happy. 
Ah, yeah, no, that's it's 

739
00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,030
actually so incredibly true. 
I go to a lot of college 

740
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,750
campuses and I talk about why 
feminism is terrible. 

741
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:33,820
And of course, like, I have, 
like, people with septum 

742
00:36:33,830 --> 00:36:36,600
piercings and purple hair, like,
in the audience, like scowling 

743
00:36:36,610 --> 00:36:39,560
at me, like making such angry 
comments muttering to 

744
00:36:39,570 --> 00:36:41,180
themselves. 
And I'm like, OK. 

745
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:44,800
But the vast majority of these 
girls are girls who put in 

746
00:36:44,810 --> 00:36:46,440
effort. 
They dress nice, they're 

747
00:36:46,450 --> 00:36:49,260
beautiful, they're feminine. 
And they're like, yeah, like, I 

748
00:36:49,270 --> 00:36:50,890
love the college experience I'm 
getting. 

749
00:36:50,900 --> 00:36:53,720
I'm really thankful. 
But I don't want to have to just

750
00:36:53,730 --> 00:36:56,200
work for the rest of my life. 
That doesn't sound great, but I 

751
00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:58,680
have to work because I got a 
pair of these student loans, 

752
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,800
because it's not fair to lump 
that onto a husband. 

753
00:37:00,810 --> 00:37:02,600
You know, right? 
As soon as you get married. 

754
00:37:02,610 --> 00:37:04,780
Yeah, somebody should have told 
my wife that I help. 

755
00:37:04,790 --> 00:37:06,400
We paid for her masters 
together. 

756
00:37:06,470 --> 00:37:08,000
See, that's the thing. 
I know I. 

757
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:09,360
Didn't supposed to be done. 
That's what you do. 

758
00:37:09,370 --> 00:37:10,860
You buy into the whole thing. 
Who cares? 

759
00:37:10,910 --> 00:37:13,240
Yeah, you buy into all of it. 
And yeah, I didn't go to 

760
00:37:13,250 --> 00:37:14,750
college, so I'm. 
I'm hoping that. 

761
00:37:14,810 --> 00:37:16,890
Way ahead of the curve. 
I don't think my kids are going 

762
00:37:16,900 --> 00:37:19,120
to go either. 
I mean that's that's that's the 

763
00:37:19,130 --> 00:37:20,930
natural. 
So here's the fun thing, right? 

764
00:37:20,940 --> 00:37:22,520
Because we're seeing this 
happening right now. 

765
00:37:22,590 --> 00:37:26,220
You're actually sort of in the 
maelstrom and your and your age 

766
00:37:26,230 --> 00:37:29,380
bracket is in the maelstrom of 
people making that turn. 

767
00:37:29,460 --> 00:37:31,880
When I was a kid, if you didn't 
go to college. 

768
00:37:31,950 --> 00:37:34,630
You were going to be a failure. 
That was assured, right. 

769
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,910
And there's a big amount of 
money that you were going to be,

770
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,490
you're going to be missing out 
on. 

771
00:37:38,620 --> 00:37:42,070
My wife, I think we paid 25 or 
$30,000 for her masters. 

772
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,770
At the end of it. 
I know I ended up paying, I 

773
00:37:43,780 --> 00:37:45,970
don't know, something like that,
10 or $15,000 for my 

774
00:37:45,980 --> 00:37:48,530
undergraduate degree that 
wouldn't get you a year right 

775
00:37:48,540 --> 00:37:51,930
now in most state schools, 
people your age bracket. 

776
00:37:52,020 --> 00:37:54,880
So you're seeing something very 
different and it's kind of 

777
00:37:54,890 --> 00:37:56,210
interesting how you guys are 
pushing back. 

778
00:37:56,220 --> 00:37:58,810
I say you guys, but it's you and
and and people that have that 

779
00:37:58,820 --> 00:38:02,130
awareness like you do. 
And you're saying, hey, maybe 

780
00:38:02,180 --> 00:38:04,430
maybe college isn't required for
everybody. 

781
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,340
By the way, that's the also. 
The position of all of human 

782
00:38:07,350 --> 00:38:08,990
history. 
It used to be just for the 

783
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,840
elites, right? 
I don't know why we thought 

784
00:38:10,850 --> 00:38:13,080
everyone had to have it. 
Why did Why did everyone have to

785
00:38:13,090 --> 00:38:17,200
go to college, you think? 
And yeah, and I think just 

786
00:38:17,210 --> 00:38:21,320
because Americans could. 
And college used to be a sign of

787
00:38:21,390 --> 00:38:24,230
wealth and being in a higher 
class than other people. 

788
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:27,460
But I think what boomers hate to
realise is like, class doesn't 

789
00:38:27,470 --> 00:38:31,590
really exist in America anymore.
You have different social groups

790
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,330
and you have different levels of
income. 

791
00:38:33,340 --> 00:38:36,920
But we don't have that same 
rigid class system that a lot of

792
00:38:36,930 --> 00:38:39,680
people like to harken back to 
and feel like they're superior 

793
00:38:39,690 --> 00:38:41,640
because they went to a specific 
college. 

794
00:38:41,650 --> 00:38:44,860
I mean, if you say you went to 
Harvard, I'm like, OK, whatever 

795
00:38:45,450 --> 00:38:47,680
doesn't affect me. 
Like you're probably just 

796
00:38:47,690 --> 00:38:51,300
severely in debt and have a 
bunch of quirky and kooky ideas 

797
00:38:51,310 --> 00:38:54,410
and so yeah, you're you. 
We are really seeing this turn 

798
00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:57,000
of people saying, yeah I don't 
really need that. 

799
00:38:57,010 --> 00:39:00,930
Mostly because I mean it's kind 
of a supply and demand thing 

800
00:39:00,940 --> 00:39:04,090
because college I don't think 
will ever go away. 

801
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:09,000
But at college is accessible to 
almost everyone because there's 

802
00:39:09,010 --> 00:39:12,150
so many scholarships and loans 
and all these different ways 

803
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:15,130
that you can get into college 
that now it's really a thing 

804
00:39:15,140 --> 00:39:18,870
that is not actually special. 
So what's special is you're 21 

805
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:20,610
and have built a six figure 
business. 

806
00:39:20,620 --> 00:39:24,610
Like in the case that I have and
so I'm I'm becoming kind of the 

807
00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:26,990
anomaly outside of like oh 
people parents look at me and 

808
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,340
they're like whoa, I don't know 
really what what to do with you 

809
00:39:29,350 --> 00:39:32,290
because I can't ask you what 
your degree is and what your 

810
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:34,190
internships are. 
They don't exactly know how to 

811
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,490
deal with me sometimes. 
But here's another thing. 

812
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,910
Conservatives often have this 
idea that well I don't support 

813
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,890
college but like if you're going
to be a lawyer or doctor or an 

814
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:48,250
engineer, then you should like 
really go to college. 

815
00:39:48,580 --> 00:39:50,650
I think that is the stupidest 
thing. 

816
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:53,290
I mean I even used to say it's 
it's so stupid. 

817
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,960
You should go to college and you
should like Michael Knowles 

818
00:39:55,970 --> 00:40:00,190
says, Once you study dusty old 
books and old people, you know 

819
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,310
page pages of of philosophy and 
you should want to like. 

820
00:40:04,380 --> 00:40:07,350
Look at old art pieces. 
That's what higher education 

821
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:09,520
should be. 
It shouldn't be a training 

822
00:40:09,530 --> 00:40:13,420
ground for you to be able to 
practise a job just like my 

823
00:40:13,430 --> 00:40:17,160
entry level of practising, like 
being a social media manager. 

824
00:40:17,170 --> 00:40:19,640
That's what I do like. 
I just have to have like a 

825
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:23,050
subscription and Final Cut Pro 
and a subscription to Canva and 

826
00:40:23,060 --> 00:40:26,360
then I'm good like the entry 
levels, like 400 bucks. 

827
00:40:26,410 --> 00:40:29,100
But for someone like my 
boyfriend, who's going to be a 

828
00:40:29,110 --> 00:40:32,920
lawyer, he's going to have to 
pay a lot more than 400 bucks to

829
00:40:32,930 --> 00:40:35,170
be able to practise the thing 
that he wants to. 

830
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:39,780
I think that law firms, that 
engineering firms, that 

831
00:40:40,590 --> 00:40:44,100
hospitals and places like that 
should be the ones providing the

832
00:40:44,110 --> 00:40:46,660
training and the standardised 
training that you get, almost 

833
00:40:46,670 --> 00:40:49,200
like a trade school. 
So I think it's so silly when 

834
00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:51,240
people like, well, if you're 
going to be a lawyer, doctor, 

835
00:40:51,250 --> 00:40:54,780
engineer, it's like, no, you 
should go to college to expand 

836
00:40:54,790 --> 00:40:59,420
your mind and study old books 
and classical things and music 

837
00:40:59,430 --> 00:41:03,200
and things that you can't get 
anywhere else, AKA work 

838
00:41:03,210 --> 00:41:06,310
experience. 
I would say in this 20 years 

839
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,120
ago, this is very interesting to
hear from your mouth because I 

840
00:41:09,130 --> 00:41:11,840
used to think it was so funny. 
It's it's actually used to be 

841
00:41:11,850 --> 00:41:15,180
considered an elitist position 
to say that only a few people 

842
00:41:15,190 --> 00:41:17,140
should go to college. 
They're the people that can 

843
00:41:17,150 --> 00:41:19,870
afford leisure, that have money,
that have parents with money or 

844
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,200
whatever, and they go study 
things that actually have no 

845
00:41:23,310 --> 00:41:25,280
tangible value. 
But it's nice that people know 

846
00:41:25,290 --> 00:41:28,820
them, like philosophy and Latin 
and can tell you in the original

847
00:41:28,830 --> 00:41:32,140
Greek what Aristotle said about 
the nature of the universe. 

848
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:34,860
Talk about Noel. 
Well, I I compared Plato and I 

849
00:41:34,870 --> 00:41:36,920
saw this was the thing and this 
is the idyllic version. 

850
00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:39,420
This is what the historical 
arguments were for and against 

851
00:41:39,430 --> 00:41:41,700
democracy and oligarchy. 
Oh, very good. 

852
00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:42,740
I love that. 
Very nice. 

853
00:41:43,010 --> 00:41:44,760
What do you do with that? 
Thing I can't even turn a 

854
00:41:44,770 --> 00:41:46,210
wrench. 
I don't even have a like, Plumb 

855
00:41:46,220 --> 00:41:48,260
my house, right? 
And you're correct, there's 

856
00:41:48,270 --> 00:41:51,110
something about do you need your
accountant? 

857
00:41:51,150 --> 00:41:53,180
Do you have an account, by the 
way, that handles your business?

858
00:41:53,250 --> 00:41:55,740
Yes. 
Do you need your accountant to 

859
00:41:55,750 --> 00:42:01,170
have a discussion with you about
Western Civilization levels 123 

860
00:42:01,180 --> 00:42:03,720
and four that he probably had to
take or she had to take going 

861
00:42:03,730 --> 00:42:05,580
through college? 
You need that Western SIV 

862
00:42:05,590 --> 00:42:07,040
conversation. 
No, I don't. 

863
00:42:07,050 --> 00:42:09,600
Although my accountant is pretty
epic and we do have those 

864
00:42:09,610 --> 00:42:12,880
conversations just right. 
Because they had to go. 

865
00:42:12,890 --> 00:42:14,760
Maybe that's something that they
were interested in, but my 

866
00:42:14,770 --> 00:42:16,890
account really, if they wanted 
to get that degree in. 

867
00:42:16,970 --> 00:42:19,590
In 18 months, I'd be comfortable
with that, yeah. 

868
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,880
It's like competency. 
Know what the law is. 

869
00:42:21,890 --> 00:42:23,190
Make sure that you can count the
money, right? 

870
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,610
Your math skills are on point. 
You don't even need to know how 

871
00:42:25,620 --> 00:42:27,950
to do complex math. 
Turns out financial math is not 

872
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,430
that complicated. 
So there is an argument for 

873
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,950
trade school and then actually 
restoring that sort of elite 

874
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,330
level of education only for the 
people that really can afford 

875
00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:37,930
leisure. 
That'd be fun. 

876
00:42:38,900 --> 00:42:41,150
Or for people who just really 
want to pursue that. 

877
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,650
I mean, I don't know that 
college should go back to being 

878
00:42:43,700 --> 00:42:47,490
a completely only thing for the 
quote unquote upper classes. 

879
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:50,560
Because I think that a rigid 
class system, while it has its 

880
00:42:50,570 --> 00:42:53,300
benefits, I don't think that's 
what America has been built on 

881
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:56,100
and won't be something that does
very well for us. 

882
00:42:56,110 --> 00:43:00,140
Because rigid class systems, 
we've only seen it really be 

883
00:43:00,150 --> 00:43:02,620
successful in Britain, but that 
was because of Christianity. 

884
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:07,620
So maybe we shouldn't focus on 
it being just something for the 

885
00:43:07,630 --> 00:43:09,100
quote unquote elites or the 
wealthy. 

886
00:43:09,110 --> 00:43:12,420
But we should have it only be 
focused on expanding the mind, 

887
00:43:12,430 --> 00:43:16,000
going into deeper truths, 
talking about we we say useless 

888
00:43:16,010 --> 00:43:18,020
things like philosophy, but I 
love philosophy. 

889
00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:19,590
It's very. 
Other two, you can't understand 

890
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,630
the world without it. 
We need philosophers just 

891
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,100
doesn't. 
It just doesn't pay well. 

892
00:43:23,110 --> 00:43:26,330
It turns out you you may have to
be successful, it may have to be

893
00:43:26,340 --> 00:43:28,520
a hobby, or you may have to be 
able to do that as sort of a 

894
00:43:28,530 --> 00:43:30,960
leisure pursuit because you 
already have some financial 

895
00:43:30,970 --> 00:43:32,650
abilities. 
The upside is, is that you're 

896
00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:35,390
growing up in Internet age when 
everybody can find the entire 

897
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,600
collected history of the world. 
On their phone, they can walk 

898
00:43:38,610 --> 00:43:41,480
around with it in their pocket. 
Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely 

899
00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:43,300
true. 
They can also find pornography 

900
00:43:43,310 --> 00:43:46,760
and things that sort of destroy 
women's value in a lot of ways. 

901
00:43:46,830 --> 00:43:49,050
Does it, Do you see that in some
of the things that you've been 

902
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:50,360
discussing? 
And do you guys, do you talk 

903
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:51,760
about that at all in college 
campuses? 

904
00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:57,090
I have definitely seen it. 
There are tonnes and tonnes of 

905
00:43:57,100 --> 00:44:00,730
women who attack me from every 
angle every single day. 

906
00:44:00,780 --> 00:44:03,940
When I say, yeah, only fans is 
not a good job or a woman 

907
00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:07,230
shouldn't sleep around or you 
should not embrace feminism. 

908
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:09,890
Because feminism has the 
tendency, the awkward tendency, 

909
00:44:09,900 --> 00:44:13,690
to re objectify women when it 
comes, when it comes down to it,

910
00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:18,030
because we're taught now that 
Cardi B is the most empowered, 

911
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:20,980
should be lauded as the most 
glorious person ever. 

912
00:44:20,990 --> 00:44:23,010
And I'm like, well, she's 
actually just jiggling on the 

913
00:44:23,020 --> 00:44:25,530
stage, like objectifying herself
for everyone. 

914
00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:29,080
Houses, prying eyes and only 
fans and pornography. 

915
00:44:29,090 --> 00:44:31,420
Those industries, I believe, are
exactly the same. 

916
00:44:31,430 --> 00:44:36,730
And they go, they do go hand in 
hand in terms of what they tell 

917
00:44:36,740 --> 00:44:38,610
women. 
So we have so many societal 

918
00:44:38,620 --> 00:44:41,950
forces telling women that it's 
interesting actually, let me go 

919
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,370
back to 2nd wave feminism, 
because second wave feminism was

920
00:44:44,380 --> 00:44:49,510
focused on the idea that women 
are more than their bodies and 

921
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,090
their bodies are something that 
should be, only, you know, used 

922
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:56,730
for men, but also women should 
be able to love whoever they 

923
00:44:56,740 --> 00:44:58,130
want. 
So you had this like weird 

924
00:44:58,140 --> 00:45:01,530
tension going on of half the 2nd
wave feminists saying no, we 

925
00:45:01,540 --> 00:45:04,350
should erase the female body 
because it has too much power, 

926
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:08,460
and then the other half saying 
that no, we should just a rates 

927
00:45:08,470 --> 00:45:11,780
all sexual mores and sexual 
norms and just have free love 

928
00:45:11,790 --> 00:45:13,510
for everyone. 
So you have these two movements 

929
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:16,180
happening in the kind of the 
1960s and 70s. 

930
00:45:16,370 --> 00:45:19,460
Then then it got to about 
something in the 1990s and the 

931
00:45:19,470 --> 00:45:23,470
academics types that were wanted
androgyny wanted women's bodies 

932
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,220
to like not be marketed 
everywhere. 

933
00:45:26,230 --> 00:45:29,940
They kind of, they kind of got a
little bit quieter then and the 

934
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:35,440
pop culture, Spice Girls kind of
MTV girly started really taking 

935
00:45:35,450 --> 00:45:39,370
hold and saying, you know what, 
my body gets views. 

936
00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:44,410
So I'm going to use my body in 
whatever means possible, because

937
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:49,450
if my value is a woman's based 
off of my success, and I find a 

938
00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:54,510
lot of success by doing it naked
music videos and filming 

939
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,470
pornography or just, you know, 
making a spectacle of myself, 

940
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,250
and I'm going to pursue that 
because that is empowerment and 

941
00:46:00,260 --> 00:46:03,050
that is where my values coming 
from. 

942
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,570
So really going into the 2000s 
with the rise of social media 

943
00:46:06,580 --> 00:46:10,110
and also the rise of just like 
not, I guess arise technically, 

944
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:13,270
but you have a lot of broken 
families where girls aren't 

945
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,720
growing up in a stable 
environment. 

946
00:46:14,730 --> 00:46:17,060
They've never been loved and 
cherished by their dad because 

947
00:46:17,070 --> 00:46:19,270
the only way that a girl has 
confidence is because of her 

948
00:46:19,340 --> 00:46:21,400
that 100%. 
The only way she'll know how to 

949
00:46:21,410 --> 00:46:24,740
be loved is because of her dad. 
And so a lot of fatherless homes

950
00:46:24,810 --> 00:46:29,450
have these girls who turn out 
totally crappy and seeking 

951
00:46:29,460 --> 00:46:31,560
attention and love and 
admiration in all the wrong 

952
00:46:31,570 --> 00:46:33,880
places. 
So they naturally go to TikTok. 

953
00:46:33,890 --> 00:46:37,920
They naturally go to places like
only fans because not only is it

954
00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:40,020
giving them instant 
gratification of getting tonnes 

955
00:46:40,030 --> 00:46:43,090
of views or a paycheck every two
weeks or something like that, 

956
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:46,480
it's also filling the tank that 
they believe is getting filled 

957
00:46:46,490 --> 00:46:48,740
with love. 
But of course, we know that only

958
00:46:48,750 --> 00:46:51,720
fans is not a way to fill the 
the love tank in your life. 

959
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:57,960
So yeah, I mean it's interesting
how you had to competing ideas 

960
00:46:57,970 --> 00:47:01,370
of where a woman's body and 
value comes from in the second 

961
00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:04,560
wave of feminism, but the one 
that appeals to men's and 

962
00:47:04,570 --> 00:47:07,600
women's most bases desires ended
up winning out. 

963
00:47:07,710 --> 00:47:11,740
And now we have 15 year olds who
are wearing nothing but eye 

964
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:15,330
patches over their boobs on, you
know, TikTok flaunting 

965
00:47:15,340 --> 00:47:18,370
themselves around thinking that 
their empowerment and their 

966
00:47:18,380 --> 00:47:22,220
value comes from views. 
It's I hadn't thought about it 

967
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:23,990
that way. 
So I appreciate the idea that we

968
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,810
are tying now the financial 
value because if women have to 

969
00:47:27,820 --> 00:47:30,180
be financially successful and if
that requires them to do 

970
00:47:30,190 --> 00:47:32,980
something that is promiscuous or
non valuable for their self, 

971
00:47:32,990 --> 00:47:34,500
they're basically sacrificing 
themselves. 

972
00:47:34,510 --> 00:47:36,970
But you know one of the 
downstream consequences also 

973
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:40,550
only a very small number of 
women can be successful in that 

974
00:47:40,620 --> 00:47:42,370
right. 
So if you go look at the the 

975
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:44,710
number of women that are making 
a tonne of money on only fans, 

976
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,910
you know the the the 1st, 20 or 
30 are making shocking amounts 

977
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,510
of money, 1115 million. 
We covered this on my podcast at

978
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,370
one point. 
Like millions of dollars. 

979
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,320
Per month after the take that 
the the company gets, which is 

980
00:47:56,330 --> 00:47:58,520
also making a tonne of money, 
they're the ones who really win,

981
00:47:59,070 --> 00:48:01,820
but there's got to be a lot of 
people that are also making very

982
00:48:01,830 --> 00:48:03,600
little money. 
Right. 

983
00:48:03,640 --> 00:48:06,110
And they have all the same risk 
and exposure and all the same 

984
00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,550
downsides that might happen 
without the millions of dollars 

985
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:10,350
to compensate them. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

986
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,030
But of course it's kind of like 
any multi level marketing scheme

987
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,950
like oh, if you just really work
at it, you will and can be 

988
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:18,930
successful. 
And it's like well, again, we we

989
00:48:18,940 --> 00:48:23,080
have yet to see a lot in all of 
these spiritual, emotional, just

990
00:48:23,090 --> 00:48:26,530
scars that women are going to 
have to endure because of this. 

991
00:48:26,540 --> 00:48:29,540
The ones who are participating 
in it and also the ones who are 

992
00:48:29,550 --> 00:48:32,370
not participating it because you
have the people who are acting 

993
00:48:32,380 --> 00:48:36,100
and then you have the people who
are hearing, Oh, well, if if 

994
00:48:36,110 --> 00:48:39,110
she's making a bunch of money on
this and she thinks it's OK, 

995
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,140
well then how does that affect 
me? 

996
00:48:41,150 --> 00:48:45,460
And how does that affect my my 
decisions and what I'm thinking 

997
00:48:45,470 --> 00:48:48,400
about and what I'm validating? 
So, you know, you have this very

998
00:48:48,410 --> 00:48:52,020
loud minority who said I make 
$1,000,000 every single month on

999
00:48:52,030 --> 00:48:52,980
this. 
It's crazy. 

1000
00:48:52,990 --> 00:48:54,490
It's insane. 
It's super easy. 

1001
00:48:54,500 --> 00:48:57,620
You can do it too. 
And girls are like, well, she 

1002
00:48:57,630 --> 00:49:01,400
seems happy and she's making 
money because since my value is 

1003
00:49:01,410 --> 00:49:04,500
is I have to be successful, I 
have to make money, Femininity 

1004
00:49:04,510 --> 00:49:06,820
has no consequence and it 
doesn't even matter anymore. 

1005
00:49:06,830 --> 00:49:09,290
Then, Nan, I'm going to, I'm 
going to pursue that too. 

1006
00:49:09,300 --> 00:49:12,390
And yeah, sex work is real work.
And that's the inevitable 

1007
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,720
conclusion of what we have here.
Which is really scary stuff I 

1008
00:49:15,730 --> 00:49:19,530
think what what does that the 
downstream effects for 

1009
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,250
interpersonal relationships have
to be pretty extreme too and and

1010
00:49:22,260 --> 00:49:24,890
your generation is going to sort
of deal with it in a bigger way.

1011
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,120
I'm happy that you're in a 
productive relationship that 

1012
00:49:27,130 --> 00:49:29,560
looks like it's going somewhere.
That's not necessarily the case 

1013
00:49:29,570 --> 00:49:32,370
where a lot of your your peers 
or at least your age bracket 

1014
00:49:32,380 --> 00:49:35,310
peers are looking at most of 
them are probably in the same 

1015
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,900
the same both that like my wife 
and I thought like, oh, you got 

1016
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:39,690
to use your 20s and figure out 
how to get married. 

1017
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:42,150
Maybe when you're 30s and but 
that time you're actually old. 

1018
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:43,920
I can tell you this. 
I'm like, I have a new baby. 

1019
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:46,110
I'm 41. 
I'm old to have a new baby 

1020
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,020
because I'm really tired. 
Like like I'm I'm a lot more 

1021
00:49:49,030 --> 00:49:50,940
mature than I was when I was a 
kid, no doubt about it. 

1022
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:53,430
But I watched one of my friends,
one of my buddies actually has 

1023
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:58,340
kids that are in college right 
now and and and my oldest is 6. 

1024
00:49:58,750 --> 00:50:01,220
So that's the that's the sort of
the the flip right. 

1025
00:50:01,230 --> 00:50:03,620
The cost is, is that some of 
these, these your peers are 

1026
00:50:03,630 --> 00:50:05,260
going to be dealing with 
something very difficult, I 

1027
00:50:05,270 --> 00:50:07,800
think. 
And what are those downstream 

1028
00:50:07,810 --> 00:50:12,030
effects look like of, you know, 
sexualization and and and 

1029
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,520
devaluing sort of femininity and
all this kind of stuff. 

1030
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,220
Yeah. 
First of all, congratulations on

1031
00:50:17,230 --> 00:50:18,680
your new baby. 
That's so exciting. 

1032
00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:21,040
I cannot wait for my time. 
It'll be amazing when it 

1033
00:50:21,050 --> 00:50:23,760
happens. 
But Oh my goodness, where do we 

1034
00:50:23,770 --> 00:50:26,580
start with the downstream, the, 
the downstream effects? 

1035
00:50:26,590 --> 00:50:29,920
I mean, let's, I guess we'll 
start with just the plain 

1036
00:50:29,930 --> 00:50:34,320
romantic relationship. 
You have men who are addicted to

1037
00:50:34,370 --> 00:50:40,790
very intense and violent images 
of pornography or worse. 

1038
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:45,670
And then, you know, you have men
who are experiencing real 

1039
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,630
difficulty in having a 
connection with someone. 

1040
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:51,090
I mean, I don't know. 
I'm not married yet. 

1041
00:50:51,100 --> 00:50:54,410
So, you know, this is just what 
I've been hearing from guys who 

1042
00:50:54,420 --> 00:50:55,950
are, who are addicted to this 
kind of stuff. 

1043
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:59,360
They have a very difficult time 
connecting with a real woman in 

1044
00:50:59,370 --> 00:51:02,230
real life because she's not an 
only fans model who has 

1045
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:06,510
$1,000,000 every single month to
do a bunch of cosmetic work and 

1046
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,490
a bunch of editing to every 
image or video that she puts 

1047
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:10,930
out. 
So you have the devaluing of 

1048
00:51:10,940 --> 00:51:13,900
women. 
You have men not being able to 

1049
00:51:13,910 --> 00:51:17,860
fully connect with and engage 
with a real woman who you know 

1050
00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:19,830
is in real life and she's not 
only fans. 

1051
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:23,360
Model. 
And then you have, yeah, you 

1052
00:51:23,370 --> 00:51:28,610
have the desensitisation of the,
the power that sexual 

1053
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:32,620
relationship probably has on a 
person's spirit and on their 

1054
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:36,250
mind and on their body. 
And so, you know, as a 

1055
00:51:36,260 --> 00:51:43,160
Christian, protecting your heart
is one of the most important 

1056
00:51:43,170 --> 00:51:45,820
things that you can do. 
It says this, I think in 

1057
00:51:45,830 --> 00:51:49,320
Proverbs 320 or 420, I think 
it's 320, it's guard your heart 

1058
00:51:49,330 --> 00:51:52,880
above all else. 
And so I assume you've probably 

1059
00:51:52,890 --> 00:51:54,940
seen Harry Potter, Is that 
correct? 

1060
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,040
OK. 
So I think about it in this way 

1061
00:51:58,050 --> 00:52:00,820
in terms of how the there are 
going to be repercussions for 

1062
00:52:00,830 --> 00:52:02,700
women. 
So through the whole Harry 

1063
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:05,500
Potter, you know, and I'm also 
not one of those who wouldn't 

1064
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:08,400
watch Harry Potter. 
I get it with the hyper, really 

1065
00:52:08,410 --> 00:52:10,180
hyper strict people. 
I'm just not one of those. 

1066
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:14,460
So the bad guy, Voldemort, 
essentially the first movie 

1067
00:52:14,470 --> 00:52:17,640
starts out with him, him like 
not being him being like 

1068
00:52:17,650 --> 00:52:19,380
attached to that guy's head or 
whatever. 

1069
00:52:19,450 --> 00:52:23,240
So it turns out that his soul, 
Voldemort soul has been split 

1070
00:52:23,290 --> 00:52:26,620
into a bunch of different places
and cast all around the Harry 

1071
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:29,270
Potter world. 
And he has to spend 8 movies or 

1072
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:32,900
eight books collecting all of 
the parts of his soul and 

1073
00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:35,270
putting them back together so 
that he can like take over the 

1074
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:38,740
world. 
I see a woman who sleeps around 

1075
00:52:38,950 --> 00:52:43,730
a lot like Voldemort. 
She has doled out parts of her 

1076
00:52:43,740 --> 00:52:46,300
soul all around the all around 
the world. 

1077
00:52:46,310 --> 00:52:50,190
So all these random guys, 
whether it's viewers on only 

1078
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,370
fans or whether it's just casual
relationship hookup 

1079
00:52:53,380 --> 00:52:56,310
relationships that she's having,
she's doling out pieces of her 

1080
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,290
soul to all these people. 
But unlike Voldemort, she ain't 

1081
00:52:59,300 --> 00:53:01,470
going to be able to go and 
collect those again. 

1082
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:04,850
Because once your soul's gone, 
like you don't have like little 

1083
00:53:04,860 --> 00:53:07,730
totems or little time pieces 
that you can just go recollect 

1084
00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:10,230
it and magic spells to put it 
all back together. 

1085
00:53:10,280 --> 00:53:15,560
So I I'm watching women 
voluntarily shatter the beauty 

1086
00:53:15,570 --> 00:53:20,720
and the femininity and the 
purity that they have by seeking

1087
00:53:20,730 --> 00:53:24,340
love in all the wrong places. 
And that really is the biggest 

1088
00:53:24,350 --> 00:53:28,420
downstream effect from women or 
for women in regards to this 

1089
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:32,990
hyper sexualized industry. 
And then the final thing I'll 

1090
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:36,190
mention as how it's going to 
affect women is, you know, a lot

1091
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,210
of very valiant feminists who 
maybe hadn't bought into the 

1092
00:53:39,220 --> 00:53:43,110
whole picture of radical 
feminism and man hating and not 

1093
00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:46,530
shaving your armpits and things 
like that and to at least 

1094
00:53:46,540 --> 00:53:51,180
appreciated a woman's value 
said, you know what, I don't 

1095
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:53,850
want to be objectified. 
I just want to have, you know, 

1096
00:53:53,860 --> 00:53:57,290
my life and keep to myself. 
But unfortunately, now you have 

1097
00:53:57,300 --> 00:54:02,130
girls who are willingly object 
re objectifying themselves for 

1098
00:54:02,140 --> 00:54:04,890
money. 
And so apparently it's not OK if

1099
00:54:04,900 --> 00:54:08,160
a man is objectifying you on his
own accord, but it is OK if 

1100
00:54:08,170 --> 00:54:11,710
you're doing it and objectifying
yourself for money. 

1101
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,090
So I'm always like, where's the 
consistency there? 

1102
00:54:15,100 --> 00:54:18,310
But those are just a couple of 
the consequences for 

1103
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,580
relationships and what my 
generation's going to face in 

1104
00:54:21,590 --> 00:54:23,710
the future. 
Yeah, really uncharted 

1105
00:54:23,720 --> 00:54:25,090
territory. 
It seems like too. 

1106
00:54:25,140 --> 00:54:27,830
So let's talk about fixes, 
because nobody likes to just to 

1107
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,830
dwell on the negativity. 
I think we all see that the 

1108
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,790
world is falling. 
We know that we are living in an

1109
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,930
area that is outside the Garden 
of Eden, and so be it. 

1110
00:54:35,020 --> 00:54:36,490
So how do we exist in this 
world? 

1111
00:54:36,500 --> 00:54:39,000
What are some of the things? 
That the advocacy that you're 

1112
00:54:39,010 --> 00:54:41,830
doing specifically towards 
women, but also how you interact

1113
00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,690
with young men, kind of 
explaining to them maybe 

1114
00:54:44,810 --> 00:54:46,770
pitfalls and pathways out of 
this. 

1115
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:49,910
The first thing I always focus 
on is just helping women 

1116
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,190
understand their own brains. 
There is so much of a culture of

1117
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:57,520
self help and understanding 
yourself in psychology and you 

1118
00:54:57,530 --> 00:55:00,890
know any ground tests in Myers 
Briggs and personality tests. 

1119
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:05,150
And it comes to a point where 
it's like we may know a lot of 

1120
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,400
things but we really don't truly
understand ourselves. 

1121
00:55:07,410 --> 00:55:09,630
What our prime motivators are, 
what motivates us, what drives 

1122
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:11,520
us as women who are different 
than men. 

1123
00:55:11,530 --> 00:55:13,840
So the first thing I always 
focus on is I'm like girls, 

1124
00:55:13,850 --> 00:55:15,900
you're different than a guy. 
You have different wants, you 

1125
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:19,140
have different needs, you have 
different things that you are 

1126
00:55:19,150 --> 00:55:22,380
attracted to or deterred by you,
You are just different. 

1127
00:55:22,450 --> 00:55:26,840
And isn't it ironic that I'm 
spending most of my time talking

1128
00:55:26,850 --> 00:55:28,880
about the difference between men
and women now? 

1129
00:55:28,890 --> 00:55:31,860
It should be so obvious. 
But as we know with Matt Walsh's

1130
00:55:31,870 --> 00:55:35,360
documentary What is a Woman? 
You know we're we're back at the

1131
00:55:35,370 --> 00:55:37,620
basics. 
So I spend a whole lot of my 

1132
00:55:37,630 --> 00:55:42,400
time explaining the differences 
of the once and needs, just kind

1133
00:55:42,410 --> 00:55:45,490
of unravelling what the 
feminists have told women for so

1134
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:47,170
long. 
You know, feminism tells women 

1135
00:55:47,180 --> 00:55:50,400
you want a career, you don't 
want to be married, you don't 

1136
00:55:50,410 --> 00:55:53,220
want a family. 
All you want to be is completely

1137
00:55:53,230 --> 00:55:56,120
liberated and Unchained to a 
society and you want no 

1138
00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:59,360
responsibility and you want to 
have no accountability to 

1139
00:55:59,370 --> 00:56:02,550
anybody else. 
But all of those things are 

1140
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:04,220
completely false. 
So I spent a lot of my time 

1141
00:56:04,230 --> 00:56:07,990
rewiring how women should 
perceive themselves, perceive 

1142
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,540
their value and perceive their 
place in opposed, you know, as 

1143
00:56:11,550 --> 00:56:14,460
as different from men. 
So that's the first thing that I

1144
00:56:14,470 --> 00:56:17,880
focus on. 
The second thing is, you know, 

1145
00:56:17,930 --> 00:56:22,220
feminism preaches that it's 
accomplished 2 things for women,

1146
00:56:22,230 --> 00:56:24,480
freedom and happiness. 
So those are the 2 main, you 

1147
00:56:24,490 --> 00:56:27,350
know, banners that feminism is 
like, we've done this for you 

1148
00:56:27,360 --> 00:56:29,580
and you owe your loyalty to us 
because you're a woman. 

1149
00:56:29,590 --> 00:56:32,760
It's like, well let's examine 
and see if feminism has really 

1150
00:56:32,770 --> 00:56:36,060
accomplished those things. 
Women are not happier today. 

1151
00:56:36,070 --> 00:56:37,910
I mean, literally you can see 
this in the numbers. 

1152
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,500
There's a study called the 
Decline the paradox of Women's 

1153
00:56:42,510 --> 00:56:46,240
Declining unhappiness and it 
basically examines the self 

1154
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:50,080
reported levels of happiness of 
women from the 1970s until now. 

1155
00:56:50,170 --> 00:56:53,590
And obviously, spoiler alert, 
women are not happier today for 

1156
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,550
a multitude of reasons. 
And, you know, you can see that 

1157
00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,850
women are not happy pretty much 
at all. 

1158
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:03,210
And then women are technically, 
I argue, not more free. 

1159
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:05,590
Yes, we're allowed to vote. 
Great. 

1160
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,010
OK, we do that once every four 
years, and then once every two 

1161
00:57:09,020 --> 00:57:11,550
years if we're actually 
dedicated and vote in primaries.

1162
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:14,710
But like, yeah, we have the 
right to vote, but at the 

1163
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,850
expense of what? 
Everything else. 

1164
00:57:16,860 --> 00:57:22,310
The life of a beautiful woman, a
feminine biblical woman who can 

1165
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:26,950
be free to enjoy her family, to 
enjoy her husband, to enjoy the 

1166
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:28,640
life that they can create 
together. 

1167
00:57:28,650 --> 00:57:33,050
Because now she's a slave to the
9:00 to 5:00, you know, work 

1168
00:57:33,060 --> 00:57:36,120
week, 40 hour work week. 
She's a slave to probably half 

1169
00:57:36,130 --> 00:57:38,940
the prescripted drugs that she's
been prescribed. 

1170
00:57:38,950 --> 00:57:41,640
She's probably a slave to birth 
control and goes completely 

1171
00:57:41,650 --> 00:57:44,450
crazy because that you should 
never mess with your hormones, 

1172
00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:47,240
especially by injecting A 
synthetic hormone into a 

1173
00:57:47,250 --> 00:57:49,180
bioidentical hormone. 
So ridiculous. 

1174
00:57:49,410 --> 00:57:52,770
But their slaves to their base 
desires, their slaves to their 

1175
00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:57,190
they're just worst emotions, no 
accountability, no nothing. 

1176
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,830
And so I always try and tell 
women I'm like, if you really 

1177
00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:01,910
want freedom and happiness and 
there's different way of 

1178
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,730
receiving it and then, you know,
kind of going and talking about 

1179
00:58:04,740 --> 00:58:07,560
how traditional roles and 
biblical structure can be able 

1180
00:58:07,570 --> 00:58:11,570
to replenish and replace that. 
So I guess all of this is 

1181
00:58:11,580 --> 00:58:16,550
summarised in a in a message of 
women, you aren't happy, 

1182
00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:19,300
obviously, and you know that to 
be true. 

1183
00:58:19,310 --> 00:58:21,640
Stop lying to yourself and 
saying that you are happy and 

1184
00:58:21,650 --> 00:58:23,390
fulfilled by the things that 
you're doing. 

1185
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:25,310
And guess what? 
We have an alternative. 

1186
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:29,110
And it's better and it's much 
more fun and you will long term 

1187
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,510
be so much more joyful that 
you've done that. 

1188
00:58:31,580 --> 00:58:35,890
And so I really enjoy this trade
wife movement, women showing off

1189
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,390
their beautiful family lives, 
what they do at home. 

1190
00:58:38,500 --> 00:58:41,410
She's baking banana bread or if 
she's going out with a pretty 

1191
00:58:41,420 --> 00:58:44,310
dress on with her children. 
I think that is going to really 

1192
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,230
inspire a lot of women who 
think, yeah, this is a scam and 

1193
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,690
I I really do want something 
better. 

1194
00:58:48,700 --> 00:58:51,990
So anyone who is a trad wife and
posting content like that, I 

1195
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:54,950
really encourage you to continue
and just keep painting a 

1196
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:57,300
positive moral vision about how 
beautiful your life is. 

1197
00:58:57,310 --> 00:59:00,010
Because that's the thing that 
essentially is going to win the 

1198
00:59:00,020 --> 00:59:03,890
girls over pretty easily coming 
up against feminism. 

1199
00:59:03,900 --> 00:59:07,330
They just have to be able to 
really tangibly see the the 

1200
00:59:07,340 --> 00:59:09,870
different life that they could 
have outside of what feminism 

1201
00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:13,190
has painted for them. 
I want to see a movement of trad

1202
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,450
wives that are like the real 
trad wives of America, where 

1203
00:59:16,460 --> 00:59:19,090
they're like, I don't have time 
for makeup, my hair hasn't been 

1204
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:22,670
washed in two days, my kids are 
pooping on my clothing. 

1205
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,770
You know, I had a baby spit up 
on me. 

1206
00:59:24,820 --> 00:59:28,510
But there's nothing more 
fulfilling because because 

1207
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:32,010
that's what for me, it's one way
to curate your your, your life 

1208
00:59:32,020 --> 00:59:33,590
and show everybody. 
My wife always tells me she's 

1209
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,290
like, look at these people. 
They got all these kids, they 

1210
00:59:35,300 --> 00:59:37,580
got these, like, you know, the 
animals, they got this thing. 

1211
00:59:37,590 --> 00:59:39,490
They're making butter this lady 
doesn't like. 

1212
00:59:39,570 --> 00:59:41,220
Podcast. 
And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1213
00:59:41,230 --> 00:59:42,350
She has someone else cleaned her
house. 

1214
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:43,510
She has to pay other people to 
do stuff. 

1215
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,040
There's no way she's doing all 
the things that we're doing 

1216
00:59:46,050 --> 00:59:47,500
because we're just treading 
water. 

1217
00:59:47,650 --> 00:59:49,720
And you know, good for her for 
making that kind of money. 

1218
00:59:49,730 --> 00:59:52,860
But if that's what the real 
world of it is, like busting 

1219
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:56,040
your ass with one other person 
and it's just you and them 

1220
00:59:56,050 --> 00:59:58,440
against the rest of the world. 
Like it's always been. 

1221
00:59:59,060 --> 01:00:02,100
You brought up faith, You 
brought up the the, the pill. 

1222
01:00:02,110 --> 01:00:03,280
I want to touch on that a 
second. 

1223
01:00:03,370 --> 01:00:05,720
There was a funny little moment 
and I did this on my podcast. 

1224
01:00:05,730 --> 01:00:06,960
I shared it. 
I actually got copyright 

1225
01:00:06,970 --> 01:00:08,420
infringement from YouTube about 
it. 

1226
01:00:09,090 --> 01:00:13,120
I I showed Joe Rogan. 
And he does this amazing moment 

1227
01:00:13,130 --> 01:00:15,960
where he was like, we don't 
really fully understand how to 

1228
01:00:15,970 --> 01:00:18,460
make human beings happy. 
If only there was like a 

1229
01:00:18,470 --> 01:00:22,820
guidebook or a manual that would
show us, like, how to optimise 

1230
01:00:22,830 --> 01:00:25,900
human existence. 
And he walked right up to it, 

1231
01:00:25,950 --> 01:00:29,340
yeah, but he couldn't get there.
He's so close. 

1232
01:00:29,610 --> 01:00:31,760
He was raised Catholic the way 
that I was. 

1233
01:00:31,770 --> 01:00:34,340
He was raised with the Bible. 
He was raised knowing that there

1234
01:00:34,350 --> 01:00:37,980
was a Christian faith that made 
people even the most miserable. 

1235
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:40,740
Existences, like human beings, 
have not had it really good for 

1236
01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:43,480
most of their existence, but 
they figured out how to find 

1237
01:00:43,490 --> 01:00:45,090
happiness. 
Joe Rogan almost got there. 

1238
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:46,560
He was almost there. 
He's got too much money to 

1239
01:00:46,570 --> 01:00:48,450
figure out that the Bible is 
right there in front of him. 

1240
01:00:48,460 --> 01:00:51,060
He could just buy one. 
Let's talk about, let's talk 

1241
01:00:51,070 --> 01:00:55,130
about abortion and the pill as 
sort of like the answer for 

1242
01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:57,990
feminism and sort of what that 
that cost looks like, you think?

1243
01:00:58,220 --> 01:01:00,670
Oh my gosh, yes. 
Such a I can't believe we 

1244
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,270
haven't touched on this already.
It's just such an important 

1245
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:06,040
facet of feminism. 
So you know. 

1246
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,010
You have feminists asking the 
question, how can we erase any 

1247
01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:13,290
inequality to make women just 
like men? 

1248
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,380
And eventually you get them the 
right to vote, You get the Civil

1249
01:01:17,390 --> 01:01:19,890
Rights Act, you do all those 
things, you're eventually going 

1250
01:01:19,900 --> 01:01:23,010
to run into the question of 
biology and. 

1251
01:01:23,870 --> 01:01:27,610
There is a remarkable and very 
distinct difference between men 

1252
01:01:27,620 --> 01:01:31,220
and women in terms of biology, 
as we should know by now. 

1253
01:01:31,290 --> 01:01:34,610
Apparently we don't. 
That you know, the feminists, 

1254
01:01:34,620 --> 01:01:39,340
they they they believe, they 
truly believe that the right to 

1255
01:01:39,410 --> 01:01:43,120
abortion, the right to end 
another person's life, is a 

1256
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:47,070
fundamental human right. 
Because it accomplishes equality

1257
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,360
and it simply makes women the 
exact same as men. 

1258
01:01:51,530 --> 01:01:55,190
Because any inequality is 
perceived as the worst evil in 

1259
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,120
the world and any difference. 
Is perceived as equality, which 

1260
01:01:58,130 --> 01:02:00,390
is perceived as the worst, the 
worst thing in the world. 

1261
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,120
So you know, you, you had them 
run up to biology and say OK 

1262
01:02:04,130 --> 01:02:06,980
well fine, we need to be able in
the name of equality to 

1263
01:02:06,990 --> 01:02:11,210
eradicate. 
Women's ability or yeah, 

1264
01:02:11,220 --> 01:02:13,690
women's, women's privilege of 
having children. 

1265
01:02:13,700 --> 01:02:18,350
And so that's where birth 
control, the motivation for 

1266
01:02:18,420 --> 01:02:21,150
creating birth control, while 
also birth control, was 

1267
01:02:21,160 --> 01:02:25,740
completely a eugenicist. 
Idea and Margaret Sanger, who 

1268
01:02:25,750 --> 01:02:28,340
Major League championed it, was 
also, like best, used Hitler. 

1269
01:02:28,350 --> 01:02:31,690
So we can't overlook that fact. 
And let's talk about the fact 

1270
01:02:31,700 --> 01:02:34,670
that like 85% of Planned 
Parenthood's were put in 

1271
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,800
minority neighbourhoods with 
lots of people of colour to 

1272
01:02:37,810 --> 01:02:41,160
basically sterilise the black 
population in America. 

1273
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:43,620
Because there's a whole 
documentary called. 

1274
01:02:44,530 --> 01:02:46,460
Oh, I don't remember what it's 
called, but it's by Live Action 

1275
01:02:46,470 --> 01:02:48,120
and you should definitely go 
watch it if you want to see the 

1276
01:02:48,130 --> 01:02:51,300
completely racist roots of birth
control and abortion. 

1277
01:02:51,410 --> 01:02:53,640
They're great, by the way. 
What live action? 

1278
01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:55,840
They're great. 
So good, so good. 

1279
01:02:55,850 --> 01:02:58,170
Always on top of it. 
But I would also like to mention

1280
01:02:58,180 --> 01:03:00,550
one more thing that isn't it 
interesting that. 

1281
01:03:01,500 --> 01:03:04,400
The legalisation of over the 
counter and easy, easily 

1282
01:03:04,410 --> 01:03:07,540
accessible birth control 
happened eight years in eight. 

1283
01:03:07,550 --> 01:03:10,720
It happened in eight years. 
And then eight years later 

1284
01:03:10,730 --> 01:03:14,370
abortion was legalised because 
there was this whole idea that 

1285
01:03:14,430 --> 01:03:16,860
women were just like getting 
pregnant and having like a bunch

1286
01:03:16,870 --> 01:03:20,000
of kids and then they had to do 
like back alley abortions. 

1287
01:03:20,010 --> 01:03:23,260
What's like abortion didn't 
become legalised until after 

1288
01:03:23,330 --> 01:03:26,410
birth control was widely used 
and so you always have to think 

1289
01:03:26,420 --> 01:03:30,360
about like, why is that? 
But essentially, abortion is the

1290
01:03:30,370 --> 01:03:33,200
answer to the feminist question 
of How do we? 

1291
01:03:34,330 --> 01:03:38,640
Erase any distinction between 
men and women biologically, and 

1292
01:03:38,990 --> 01:03:43,240
the gruesome end answer to that 
question is just the death of. 

1293
01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:46,510
A million children a year. 
Yeah. 

1294
01:03:46,520 --> 01:03:48,440
They just have to sacrifice all 
the babies, right? 

1295
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:50,300
How do you answer women when 
they say, well, you're just 

1296
01:03:50,310 --> 01:03:51,470
trying to control women's 
bodies? 

1297
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,580
Because that's the answer. 
They say if you're a pro life, 

1298
01:03:53,590 --> 01:03:54,640
man. 
Yeah. 

1299
01:03:54,740 --> 01:03:56,380
They say, well, you're just 
trying to control women's 

1300
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:58,120
bodies. 
I'm like, no, I only wanna kind 

1301
01:03:58,130 --> 01:04:00,470
of guide one woman's body. 
I don't really care about the 

1302
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:01,820
rest of you except actually like
babies. 

1303
01:04:01,830 --> 01:04:04,190
I think they're awesome, You 
know, Would you if you weren't 

1304
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,950
killing them? 
And if you admit that you're 

1305
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:09,800
killing babies, which most of 
them have a hard time, they they

1306
01:04:09,810 --> 01:04:11,670
want to change the words like 
foetus, and they want to use 

1307
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:13,480
this. 
But how do you get over there? 

1308
01:04:13,530 --> 01:04:16,160
You just want to control women's
bodies and tell them how to act.

1309
01:04:16,250 --> 01:04:18,450
Yeah, well I on the language of 
it. 

1310
01:04:18,700 --> 01:04:20,290
First of all, say do you know 
what foetus means? 

1311
01:04:21,460 --> 01:04:24,630
In Latin, me as a classically 
educated person who had to take 

1312
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:26,910
Latin is the only language 
credit I ever had. 

1313
01:04:27,000 --> 01:04:29,210
Foetus literally means offspring
or baby. 

1314
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,630
And so if you just, like, 
translate it, you know, put it 

1315
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:34,400
into Google Translate and then 
just press convert like, you'll 

1316
01:04:34,410 --> 01:04:35,810
be fine. 
You'll understand the actual 

1317
01:04:35,820 --> 01:04:38,550
truth of what is being said. 
So I mean, first of all, on the 

1318
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,970
semantic point, we have all the 
evidence we need because of 

1319
01:04:40,980 --> 01:04:44,300
Latin, but. 
This is a super fun conversation

1320
01:04:44,310 --> 01:04:46,790
because of course I'm going to 
go with the traditional, well, 

1321
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:48,990
it's actually not a woman's 
body. 

1322
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:51,430
I am not trying to control a 
woman's body. 

1323
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,610
I'm trying to control the 
ability of a woman to kill 

1324
01:04:53,620 --> 01:04:55,570
another person. 
And so this is where they 

1325
01:04:55,580 --> 01:04:57,400
always, you know, roll their 
eyes because of course, that's 

1326
01:04:57,410 --> 01:04:59,770
the basic talking point. 
But I was taking a step further.

1327
01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:02,990
I always say, OK, let's talk 
about the science. 

1328
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:06,770
So did you know at the moment of
conception, there is a 100% new 

1329
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:11,190
blueprint of DNA? 
There is a like distinct piece 

1330
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,620
of DNA that has been created 
with everything coded into it. 

1331
01:05:14,850 --> 01:05:17,320
Eye colour. 
Hair colour, personality traits,

1332
01:05:17,370 --> 01:05:21,220
all the things that you need it 
at the moment of conception. 

1333
01:05:21,230 --> 01:05:26,940
And so I say, OK, so assuming 
that this DNA is going to 

1334
01:05:26,950 --> 01:05:30,440
continue to grow and get coded, 
you know, and turn into the 

1335
01:05:30,450 --> 01:05:34,480
person that it's supposed to be,
what is the difference between 

1336
01:05:34,530 --> 01:05:37,970
me right now and me in the 
moment of conception when all of

1337
01:05:37,980 --> 01:05:43,960
my DNA was set out basically 
just to to unfold and I say 

1338
01:05:43,970 --> 01:05:45,480
what? 
Well, what is the difference? 

1339
01:05:45,790 --> 01:05:48,580
And the only right answer is 
time. 

1340
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:54,440
The difference is 21 or a little
bit over that years from moment 

1341
01:05:54,450 --> 01:05:57,710
of conception until me now. 
So then I I lean in and I say, 

1342
01:05:58,210 --> 01:06:00,880
are you discriminating based on 
age? 

1343
01:06:01,030 --> 01:06:05,420
Are you being ageist? 
I cannot believe how intolerant 

1344
01:06:05,430 --> 01:06:09,560
you are being against people who
are only three months coded into

1345
01:06:09,570 --> 01:06:12,720
the DNA process. 
I cannot believe how intolerant 

1346
01:06:12,730 --> 01:06:14,820
you're being. 
And then you get them to stutter

1347
01:06:14,830 --> 01:06:17,320
and then use their sputter and 
then they just run away. 

1348
01:06:17,370 --> 01:06:20,910
So you always have to take that 
little argument a oh, it's not 

1349
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:23,080
your body a step further, and 
then turn it back on them. 

1350
01:06:23,150 --> 01:06:26,050
And accuse them of being 
discriminatory in some way. 

1351
01:06:26,060 --> 01:06:29,790
Because as we know, to the left,
discrimination is the worst evil

1352
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,830
of mankind. 
Worse than the Holocaust. 

1353
01:06:32,430 --> 01:06:33,600
Everything's worse than the 
Holocaust. 

1354
01:06:33,610 --> 01:06:35,800
Everything Worse than Hitler. 
Except Hitler. 

1355
01:06:35,810 --> 01:06:37,080
Hitler's the worst. 
Right. 

1356
01:06:37,090 --> 01:06:39,180
Except Hitler. 
That's that's the paradox of 

1357
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:41,120
being a leftist is that you have
to deal with that. 

1358
01:06:41,190 --> 01:06:43,320
It's, it's kind of interesting. 
I'll have these discussions with

1359
01:06:43,330 --> 01:06:45,520
my mother in law. 
She'll actually admit, yes, it's

1360
01:06:45,530 --> 01:06:47,580
a human being. 
It's an inconvenient human 

1361
01:06:47,590 --> 01:06:49,690
being. 
And that's why we have to kill. 

1362
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,580
That's kind of hard to to run up
against because now we've moved 

1363
01:06:53,590 --> 01:06:55,690
into a place of morality where 
it's like, Oh well, you're 

1364
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:59,290
you're OK with with child death.
Wow. 

1365
01:06:59,340 --> 01:07:02,060
It's just a matter of and and 
there are people that feel that 

1366
01:07:02,070 --> 01:07:03,370
way. 
And I feel like that once you 

1367
01:07:03,380 --> 01:07:06,070
expose that, it's like, well, we
probably not going to connect on

1368
01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:08,810
values in this in this world. 
Right. 

1369
01:07:08,820 --> 01:07:11,110
And well, when you're talking to
them, there's always a third 

1370
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:12,730
person. 
If you're you're having a a 

1371
01:07:12,740 --> 01:07:15,870
conversation with someone who 
you get them to admit, yeah, I 

1372
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:17,730
don't care about children, I 
want to kill babies. 

1373
01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,960
You say at that point you're not
trying to win over that person, 

1374
01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:24,190
you're trying to win over the 
third person, the audience. 

1375
01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,730
You are trying to win over the 
person who is watching and 

1376
01:07:27,740 --> 01:07:29,910
basically make yourself the 
rational person. 

1377
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:33,290
Because if you can't win the 
person you're arguing over, then

1378
01:07:33,300 --> 01:07:35,730
you win the audience over and 
they're going to decide that you

1379
01:07:35,740 --> 01:07:37,610
win the conversation or win the 
debate anyway. 

1380
01:07:37,620 --> 01:07:39,870
And so you always need to 
remember the third person in the

1381
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:42,370
room whenever you're engaging in
these conversations and 

1382
01:07:42,380 --> 01:07:44,400
highlighting the difference. 
And here's another just tactical

1383
01:07:44,410 --> 01:07:46,570
thing that I think conservatives
really need to get better at. 

1384
01:07:48,190 --> 01:07:54,410
We for so long have. 
Stayed in the realm of of just. 

1385
01:07:55,470 --> 01:07:58,050
Not using our emotions. 
And I know like facts don't care

1386
01:07:58,060 --> 01:08:00,380
about your feelings and that's 
great, but we need the pathos, 

1387
01:08:00,390 --> 01:08:03,200
OK? 
When they say I'm fine with 

1388
01:08:03,210 --> 01:08:08,020
killing children, you need to 
make sure that you are reacting 

1389
01:08:08,190 --> 01:08:11,710
honestly to the crazy thing that
they just said. 

1390
01:08:12,980 --> 01:08:17,890
Because when we say men can't 
become women, it's like as bad 

1391
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:21,450
as the first time I drove a car 
with my mom in the passenger 

1392
01:08:21,460 --> 01:08:24,790
seat, it was, Oh my gosh, you're
going to kill us all. 

1393
01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,590
That's the worst thing. 
That's, you know, they react 

1394
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:31,130
like we're the crazy ones, we're
not the crazy ones. 

1395
01:08:31,220 --> 01:08:33,990
And So what we have to do is 
when they say, yeah, I'm fine 

1396
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:36,270
with killing children, we need 
to react. 

1397
01:08:36,279 --> 01:08:39,529
We need to shame them, we need 
to mock them, We need to 

1398
01:08:39,540 --> 01:08:44,240
marginalised terrible, dangerous
ideas and we need to basically 

1399
01:08:44,250 --> 01:08:47,260
win over the other people with. 
Our reaction saying, did you 

1400
01:08:47,270 --> 01:08:49,779
really just say that? 
That is crazy. 

1401
01:08:49,830 --> 01:08:53,319
So I think if we can start 
almost weaponizing our reactions

1402
01:08:53,330 --> 01:08:55,240
because we've we've been so 
desensitised. 

1403
01:08:55,250 --> 01:08:58,040
But it's like think about what 
they're saying and then react 

1404
01:08:58,050 --> 01:08:59,779
accordingly. 
And they're going to start 

1405
01:08:59,790 --> 01:09:02,500
feeling that social pressure and
being like, yeah, maybe my 

1406
01:09:02,510 --> 01:09:05,100
position isn't great based on 
the way that the audience just 

1407
01:09:05,109 --> 01:09:08,100
reacted to what I just said. 
Because we know that social 

1408
01:09:08,109 --> 01:09:10,170
pressure is really powerful. 
And so if we can turn that 

1409
01:09:10,180 --> 01:09:13,160
against them, then we'll have a 
lot better chances of actually 

1410
01:09:13,270 --> 01:09:16,520
advancing the narrative along 
with the facts and logic. 

1411
01:09:16,569 --> 01:09:19,960
But that's just a housekeeping. 
Point that I would really like 

1412
01:09:19,970 --> 01:09:22,950
to promote a little bit more. 
Adding a little bit of the pesos

1413
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:24,990
to the argument. 
Adding a little bit more of that

1414
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,130
reaction which people should be 
able to see. 

1415
01:09:27,180 --> 01:09:29,330
I had one of those moments on 
social media, by the way, I 

1416
01:09:29,340 --> 01:09:33,330
think yesterday and and 
somebody, a trans person who I 

1417
01:09:33,340 --> 01:09:37,270
believe is a female, who calls 
herself a male, which is very 

1418
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:41,250
weird as a male because you 
can't become like me, it's not 

1419
01:09:41,260 --> 01:09:42,850
going to happen. 
You and I could not be the same 

1420
01:09:42,859 --> 01:09:44,470
thing. 
I promise you I will always be 

1421
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,050
able to beat you in an armoured 
competition. 

1422
01:09:46,060 --> 01:09:48,870
I don't even want to, but I can.
If I could just tell you by 

1423
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:50,350
looking at you, I can. 
I guarantee it. 

1424
01:09:50,420 --> 01:09:53,500
I will Absolutely. 
I bet every penny I have it's 

1425
01:09:53,510 --> 01:09:57,540
it's just the way it works out 
and and she reacted to me like a

1426
01:09:57,550 --> 01:09:59,510
female did. 
She felt very offended and she 

1427
01:09:59,520 --> 01:10:01,650
went off in this emotional and 
it was like I was like you know 

1428
01:10:01,660 --> 01:10:05,100
who doesn't react like you men. 
Men don't. 

1429
01:10:05,110 --> 01:10:07,800
It's just like you can't escape 
your biology sister. 

1430
01:10:07,810 --> 01:10:09,320
I know you're trying you're 
trying so hard. 

1431
01:10:10,130 --> 01:10:12,940
One of the things that you do, 
you advise young women sort of 

1432
01:10:12,950 --> 01:10:15,350
the the ways to look for what a 
successful relationship is going

1433
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,320
to look like in this post crappy
feminist world where we actually

1434
01:10:19,330 --> 01:10:20,960
kind of go back to the values 
that make sense. 

1435
01:10:21,030 --> 01:10:24,400
What values are you looking for 
and and do you value in your 

1436
01:10:24,410 --> 01:10:26,110
personal relationship that 
you're saying? 

1437
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:27,860
This is what I'm modelling. 
This is why it works out and 

1438
01:10:27,870 --> 01:10:30,640
this is how we find it. 
Yeah, the 1st and biggest. 

1439
01:10:30,650 --> 01:10:32,450
Of course, it's the obvious one.
It's faith. 

1440
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:35,420
I mean, is the person that 
you're dating equally yoked? 

1441
01:10:35,430 --> 01:10:39,010
Are they actively pursuing a 
relationship, a very intimate 

1442
01:10:39,020 --> 01:10:43,030
relationship, with the Lord? 
Are they in a state of 

1443
01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,910
constantly wanting to grow and 
improve or are they in a state 

1444
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:48,430
of oh, I'm fine, I'm just 
coasting, everything's great and

1445
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:50,650
fine. 
So that's the first thing you 

1446
01:10:50,660 --> 01:10:53,080
need to look out for and, you 
know, be very serious about 

1447
01:10:53,090 --> 01:10:54,610
them. 
My, my boyfriend and I, the only

1448
01:10:54,620 --> 01:10:57,570
disagreement we have is 
essentially when you should 

1449
01:10:57,580 --> 01:11:00,490
baptise children. 
He's a Pedo Baptist, which means

1450
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:03,170
baptised when they're babies and
I'm a Credo Baptist, which is 

1451
01:11:03,180 --> 01:11:05,900
when they reach salvation, 
That's when you need to get 

1452
01:11:05,910 --> 01:11:08,370
baptised. 
And obviously all of that is not

1453
01:11:08,380 --> 01:11:12,170
exactly salvation issues, but 
you know, we don't disagree on 

1454
01:11:12,180 --> 01:11:14,590
anything else to do with faith 
and that really is the 

1455
01:11:14,600 --> 01:11:16,390
foundation of our relationship, 
so. 

1456
01:11:16,460 --> 01:11:18,350
You need to find someone who 
takes their faith extremely 

1457
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:23,120
seriously and uses their faith 
as a vehicle to examine and 

1458
01:11:23,130 --> 01:11:25,910
improve themselves. 
Because really, marriage, from 

1459
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,400
what I've heard from all the 
marriage experts, is marriage is

1460
01:11:28,410 --> 01:11:32,460
just forgiving someone over and 
over and over and over again. 

1461
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:36,280
And if you find someone who sits
in unforgiveness or you sit and 

1462
01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:39,500
unforgiveness, then you're going
to have a rocky marriage and 

1463
01:11:39,510 --> 01:11:41,510
you're not going to be able to 
improve anything. 

1464
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,780
Because unforgiveness is the 
biggest foothold that Satan has 

1465
01:11:44,790 --> 01:11:47,320
in relationships and just in our
personal lives for sure. 

1466
01:11:47,390 --> 01:11:50,160
So that's the first thing. 
Something to that for you, so 

1467
01:11:50,170 --> 01:11:51,780
you can add it to your lexicon. 
You ready? 

1468
01:11:52,190 --> 01:11:56,640
I think if you're doing it 
right, it's you realising that 

1469
01:11:56,650 --> 01:11:58,910
you need forgiveness, not 
forgiving somebody else. 

1470
01:11:59,650 --> 01:12:02,980
Ah, it's whoever asks for 
forgiveness first wins. 

1471
01:12:03,530 --> 01:12:06,620
Always. 
In the case of my boyfriend, 

1472
01:12:06,630 --> 01:12:09,830
it's definitely him. 
It's it's it's hard because it 

1473
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,000
involves humility. 
Imagine that. 

1474
01:12:12,210 --> 01:12:16,510
Yeah, you'll figure but. 
But if you think about, but if 

1475
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,670
you want to look at a Christian 
principle, it's simply it it 

1476
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,510
always comes down to look for 
the the plank in your own eye 

1477
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:23,810
versus the speck in your in your
neighbours or in your case, your

1478
01:12:23,820 --> 01:12:26,330
spouse. 
If you can do that, you win. 

1479
01:12:26,340 --> 01:12:27,340
It's really hard. 
That's why. 

1480
01:12:27,350 --> 01:12:29,220
It's one of the things that we 
all struggle with for our whole 

1481
01:12:29,230 --> 01:12:31,210
lives. 
I'll just tell you that that's 

1482
01:12:31,220 --> 01:12:33,510
my, that's my thing. 
Whenever I know that I did the 

1483
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,120
wrong thing first. 
And it's very hard for me 

1484
01:12:35,130 --> 01:12:36,230
because I always think I'm 
right. 

1485
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,450
It's it is my nature. 
I'm very dominant in that way. 

1486
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:41,850
But by doing that you actually 
win. 

1487
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,090
And and my wife is really good 
at it too, because she, she 

1488
01:12:45,100 --> 01:12:46,310
trained it. 
She has a marriage and family 

1489
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:47,450
therapist. 
She's a masters in it. 

1490
01:12:47,460 --> 01:12:49,150
So she spent a lot of time 
studying people's. 

1491
01:12:49,430 --> 01:12:52,100
She sounds absolutely perfect, 
to be honest. 

1492
01:12:52,190 --> 01:12:55,290
She's she's saying it. 
It takes a special kind of woman

1493
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:56,450
to deal with certain types of 
men. 

1494
01:12:56,460 --> 01:12:58,400
It turns out. 
And it turns out that that's 

1495
01:12:58,410 --> 01:13:00,160
kind of the way that we're we're
meant to pair up. 

1496
01:13:00,170 --> 01:13:01,000
Right. 
OK. 

1497
01:13:01,010 --> 01:13:02,960
So faith, what I heard from 
because I want to broaden this 

1498
01:13:02,970 --> 01:13:04,580
out for people that are not 
necessarily in a faith 

1499
01:13:04,590 --> 01:13:07,870
tradition, but that's similar 
values and a similar hope for 

1500
01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:10,650
the future, is kind of the short
way of saying what you just said

1501
01:13:10,660 --> 01:13:13,040
That makes sense. 
Yeah, similar goals and a 

1502
01:13:13,050 --> 01:13:16,980
similar a similar way of dealing
with conflict that will come 

1503
01:13:16,990 --> 01:13:19,860
into your marriage. 
Because, you know, like you said

1504
01:13:19,870 --> 01:13:21,960
earlier, it's it's you against 
the world. 

1505
01:13:22,710 --> 01:13:25,890
When you're with your spouse, 
it's team US against everything 

1506
01:13:25,900 --> 01:13:29,330
else that's happening. 
And if you can't, if you don't 

1507
01:13:29,340 --> 01:13:34,870
have accurate processes to deal 
with life as it comes at you and

1508
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:37,980
as it's all hitting the fan, 
then everything is just going to

1509
01:13:37,990 --> 01:13:40,060
erupt. 
And people especially who are 

1510
01:13:40,070 --> 01:13:42,730
more on the passionate side and 
the yelling side of things, who 

1511
01:13:42,740 --> 01:13:45,410
like, you know, maybe are a 
little a little bit fighting 

1512
01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:48,240
Irish like me, maybe maybe 
inclined towards a little more 

1513
01:13:48,250 --> 01:13:50,630
drama. 
A little bit more drama. 

1514
01:13:51,060 --> 01:13:52,620
You know that's not going to be 
something healthy. 

1515
01:13:52,630 --> 01:13:55,960
You need to learn when to disarm
and when to put the weapons down

1516
01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:58,050
and say, OK, who's the enemy 
here? 

1517
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,750
It's not my spouse. 
It's not. 

1518
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,200
It's not us. 
Since each other, it's it's 

1519
01:14:01,210 --> 01:14:03,840
really, you know, I would say 
Satan, but for people who are 

1520
01:14:03,850 --> 01:14:06,460
less rights, the mailman who 
didn't deliver the package on 

1521
01:14:06,470 --> 01:14:08,670
time even though I ordered it 
too late, right, that's. 

1522
01:14:08,680 --> 01:14:10,330
Exactly. 
That's exactly next. 

1523
01:14:10,770 --> 01:14:13,320
Did you see your parents have 
conflict and and resolve it in 

1524
01:14:13,330 --> 01:14:17,300
ways that you try to emulate? 
Yeah, definitely. 

1525
01:14:17,310 --> 01:14:20,320
And I, since I have so many 
siblings, I've seen them all 

1526
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:24,500
kind of take that route as well.
And yeah, resolve conflict in a 

1527
01:14:24,510 --> 01:14:26,360
way that is patient and God 
honouring. 

1528
01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:29,570
And I'm still working on it, 
being such a passionate, 

1529
01:14:29,580 --> 01:14:32,940
debating kind of person who is a
verbal sniper whenever I need to

1530
01:14:32,950 --> 01:14:35,720
be. 
So learning self control over 

1531
01:14:35,730 --> 01:14:38,040
the tongue is really, really an 
important thing in in 

1532
01:14:38,090 --> 01:14:40,640
relationships. 
But yeah, yeah, it's been great.

1533
01:14:40,830 --> 01:14:43,390
Also, you're in a major danger 
if you plan on marrying a 

1534
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:44,500
boyfriend who's going to be a 
lawyer. 

1535
01:14:44,510 --> 01:14:48,180
He's getting formalised, 
training in arguments and and 

1536
01:14:48,190 --> 01:14:49,920
catching you in your own words. 
So this is going to be 

1537
01:14:49,930 --> 01:14:50,560
interesting for. 
You. 

1538
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,130
Yeah. 
I don't think you necessarily 

1539
01:14:52,140 --> 01:14:54,880
wants to be a litigator. 
So I think I'm in the clear a 

1540
01:14:54,890 --> 01:14:58,360
little bit there. 
But yeah, it's how they learn 

1541
01:14:58,370 --> 01:15:00,960
how to how to think. 
I have a brother who's who 

1542
01:15:00,970 --> 01:15:03,000
thinks that way. 
He always thinks he's the best 

1543
01:15:03,010 --> 01:15:05,050
debater at this point because 
it's a different way of looking 

1544
01:15:05,060 --> 01:15:06,400
at the problem. 
But I'll tell you. 

1545
01:15:06,470 --> 01:15:09,570
The the my boyfriend. 
He is one of the only people who

1546
01:15:09,580 --> 01:15:12,070
could actually genuinely beat me
in a debate. 

1547
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:14,630
He's the only person who could 
ever convince me that gravity is

1548
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:16,870
not real, even though I know 
he's wrong. 

1549
01:15:16,940 --> 01:15:19,430
He's he is that smart. 
But. 

1550
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:22,560
Yeah. 
So he has to use that 

1551
01:15:22,570 --> 01:15:24,780
responsibly then? 
Right, right. 

1552
01:15:24,850 --> 01:15:28,270
Right. 
So yeah, I mean, generally 

1553
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,180
though, in relationships it's 
the similar values. 

1554
01:15:31,190 --> 01:15:32,560
It's how do you deal with 
conflict? 

1555
01:15:32,570 --> 01:15:35,240
And remembering who the enemy is
is just a really, really 

1556
01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:39,190
important facet of what to look 
for if you're a young woman or a

1557
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,600
young guy who's looking to find 
the one. 

1558
01:15:42,830 --> 01:15:47,070
Another thing I would say is 
stop falling for you know. 

1559
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:53,180
Ed Sheeran's perfect song or 
stop falling for these love 

1560
01:15:53,190 --> 01:15:55,440
songs. 
I have died every day. 

1561
01:15:55,450 --> 01:15:59,260
You know, like the 1000 years or
these beautiful, perfect like 

1562
01:15:59,330 --> 01:16:04,000
you know, in every movie there 
is a whole life after the I do 

1563
01:16:04,370 --> 01:16:07,180
at the wedding scene, after the 
guy finally got the girl. 

1564
01:16:07,310 --> 01:16:12,550
Stop making the expectation of 
your every moment, the three 

1565
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,200
minutes of someone else's love 
song. 

1566
01:16:14,270 --> 01:16:16,380
Just stop doing it. 
You're going to have unrealistic

1567
01:16:16,390 --> 01:16:19,920
expectations and that is going 
to set you up for major failure 

1568
01:16:19,930 --> 01:16:22,110
because. 
Having expectations is a 

1569
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:25,500
dangerous business. 
Yeah, I'll tell you this, I wake

1570
01:16:25,510 --> 01:16:27,110
up every day. 
I remember listening. 

1571
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,200
I was a love song. 
I was a sappy love song guy. 

1572
01:16:29,260 --> 01:16:31,560
Love, sappy love songs. 
I don't have a lot of patience 

1573
01:16:31,570 --> 01:16:34,260
for them anymore because I'm a 
grown up and I just think, like,

1574
01:16:34,330 --> 01:16:36,360
I just go like, I don't have 
any. 

1575
01:16:36,370 --> 01:16:37,660
Like, that's not how things 
work. 

1576
01:16:38,050 --> 01:16:40,100
You want to know what love is? 
It's waking up every single 

1577
01:16:40,110 --> 01:16:42,810
morning and making a conscious 
decision to to work with 

1578
01:16:42,820 --> 01:16:45,400
somebody that you know that you 
choose to be with. 

1579
01:16:45,410 --> 01:16:47,300
And that's that's actually way 
harder. 

1580
01:16:47,310 --> 01:16:51,280
And it's way more admirable than
like some sort of silly night in

1581
01:16:51,290 --> 01:16:52,760
shining armour. 
Although I do really like The 

1582
01:16:52,770 --> 01:16:54,220
Moody Blues, which is well 
before your time. 

1583
01:16:54,230 --> 01:16:56,480
It's before my time. 
I really like some of their 

1584
01:16:56,490 --> 01:17:00,890
like, you know, you know just 
iconic sort of love songs but 

1585
01:17:00,900 --> 01:17:02,540
they're still silly. 
They don't make any sense what 

1586
01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:04,620
you've been right. 
Once you realise what real love 

1587
01:17:04,630 --> 01:17:07,820
is, it's real love is like 
holding your your wife's hair 

1588
01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:10,160
back because she's sick and 
she's been she had food 

1589
01:17:10,170 --> 01:17:13,080
poisoning and and then taking 
the kids and and letting her 

1590
01:17:13,090 --> 01:17:14,670
just lay in bed for three days 
when you. 

1591
01:17:15,100 --> 01:17:17,990
Yeah, it's it's so much uglier. 
I gave my wife a bracelet when 

1592
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,780
we got married and it just said 
from here on out, no matter what

1593
01:17:20,790 --> 01:17:22,930
happens and on the inside of it 
says it's you and me against the

1594
01:17:22,940 --> 01:17:24,270
world. 
Nobody else needs to see that 

1595
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,260
part of it, right. 
That's the part that you agree 

1596
01:17:26,270 --> 01:17:28,300
on. 
You create that unified front. 

1597
01:17:28,650 --> 01:17:30,900
One of the worst things you'll 
see is when you see spouses out 

1598
01:17:30,910 --> 01:17:33,950
in public and they're fighting 
with each other, or you'll see 

1599
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,550
somebody go and devalue their 
spouse to a stranger, right? 

1600
01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:40,390
Nothing worse. 
There's nothing worse you doing.

1601
01:17:40,820 --> 01:17:42,210
Right. 
Yeah, you're you're you're 

1602
01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:45,360
you're short circuiting your own
sort of like, unified front. 

1603
01:17:45,370 --> 01:17:47,010
I always think that's funny. 
All right, Look into your 

1604
01:17:47,020 --> 01:17:49,380
crystal ball for me. 
You're young, you got a lot of 

1605
01:17:49,390 --> 01:17:52,350
life in front of you, I hope, 
and this country seems pretty 

1606
01:17:52,360 --> 01:17:55,540
screwed up from my end of it. 
Are you hopeful? 

1607
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:57,800
Are you optimistic? 
If so, why? 

1608
01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:06,980
I wish I could be a little bit 
more hopeful than I am. 

1609
01:18:08,460 --> 01:18:13,540
About the world generally. 
But being a Christian and being 

1610
01:18:13,550 --> 01:18:18,440
a conservative, our idea and our
worldview is built off of the 

1611
01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:23,500
idea and the fact that the world
is a tragic, fallen, broken, 

1612
01:18:23,570 --> 01:18:27,730
awful place. 
So in terms of do you have hope 

1613
01:18:27,740 --> 01:18:30,510
for the future of the world? 
Well. 

1614
01:18:31,870 --> 01:18:35,440
I know it's going to get worse, 
and I know there's going to be a

1615
01:18:35,450 --> 01:18:38,750
World War Three at some point. 
And I know that the Antichrist 

1616
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,860
is going to reveal himself. 
And I know that there's going to

1617
01:18:41,870 --> 01:18:45,500
be the great Tribulation. 
And only then after that will 

1618
01:18:45,510 --> 01:18:48,060
Jesus really come back. 
And I'm not trying to, you know,

1619
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:50,320
chalk it all up to escapism 
because I think that's quite 

1620
01:18:50,330 --> 01:18:52,800
frankly, very annoying when 
people are just, Oh well, Jesus 

1621
01:18:52,810 --> 01:18:55,860
will just come back. 
But I have assurance that in the

1622
01:18:55,870 --> 01:19:00,520
end he will win. 
And until that, my calling on a 

1623
01:19:00,530 --> 01:19:04,770
personal level is to release 
women from the full on demonic. 

1624
01:19:04,850 --> 01:19:09,530
Attack of feminism and to help 
them unravel the lies that 

1625
01:19:09,540 --> 01:19:12,930
they've been steeped in and the 
lies that are so easy and pretty

1626
01:19:12,940 --> 01:19:16,090
to believe. 
And so do I have hope for the 

1627
01:19:16,100 --> 01:19:18,580
country. 
Hi. 

1628
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:27,030
I I really think America if if 
we we don't really start 

1629
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,570
sounding the alarms even more 
and taking our of our personal 

1630
01:19:30,580 --> 01:19:34,400
lives and and using those as 
examples to. 

1631
01:19:35,440 --> 01:19:39,050
You know, really fight for the 
truth and fight for good values,

1632
01:19:39,060 --> 01:19:42,370
then we're not, we're not going 
anywhere, anywhere good. 

1633
01:19:42,380 --> 01:19:46,430
So and again with the economy 
and living conditions for 

1634
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:48,200
Americans, those are rapidly 
declining. 

1635
01:19:48,210 --> 01:19:51,770
And I truly hope that we can get
a president in here that can 

1636
01:19:51,780 --> 01:19:54,930
maybe have an economy half as 
good as Trump's and quality of 

1637
01:19:54,940 --> 01:19:56,470
life can go up again. 
But. 

1638
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,410
Yeah, for my personal life, I 
don't have an 11 kids. 

1639
01:20:00,420 --> 01:20:02,700
I'm going to be married, you 
know, hopefully within the next 

1640
01:20:02,710 --> 01:20:05,510
2-3 years. 
So I'm good, I'm happy, I'm 

1641
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,960
excited and you know, I have a 
beautiful community of people 

1642
01:20:08,970 --> 01:20:10,750
who love me. 
I have a huge family and 

1643
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,420
couldn't couldn't be happier 
personally so. 

1644
01:20:15,220 --> 01:20:17,260
I I like that. 
I like 11 kids you got. 

1645
01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:19,710
We got to outbreed these clowns.
That's really the keys. 

1646
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:21,780
They're always like killing 
their own children. 

1647
01:20:21,790 --> 01:20:24,110
I'm like, well, you're making 
the job real easy over here. 

1648
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,930
Because have you noticed that 
the LGBTQ movement doesn't 

1649
01:20:26,940 --> 01:20:30,590
really grow by repopulation? 
They only grow by recruitment. 

1650
01:20:30,830 --> 01:20:33,400
Hmm. 
Better marketing efforts. 

1651
01:20:33,710 --> 01:20:36,440
It's a religion of converts, the
leftism. 

1652
01:20:36,950 --> 01:20:39,260
It's the only way they get him 
because they hate babies. 

1653
01:20:39,570 --> 01:20:41,260
Right. 
They're not replenishing 

1654
01:20:41,270 --> 01:20:42,820
anything. 
No. 

1655
01:20:42,830 --> 01:20:44,780
And I also say this, and I think
you can appreciate it. 

1656
01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:46,940
You know, just because we know 
God wins doesn't mean that 

1657
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:48,970
America wins. 
If you think that America is 

1658
01:20:48,980 --> 01:20:51,110
God, then you're a leftist. 
Because that's what that's what 

1659
01:20:51,120 --> 01:20:52,690
they're about. 
That's that's good. 

1660
01:20:52,700 --> 01:20:54,170
Yeah, that's really good. 
Love that. 

1661
01:20:54,310 --> 01:20:56,360
Sad too. 
Sad that it's like all right. 

1662
01:20:57,130 --> 01:20:59,980
Let people know where they can 
follow you, where they can see 

1663
01:20:59,990 --> 01:21:01,100
more. 
I know you have a podcast as 

1664
01:21:01,110 --> 01:21:03,260
well, that people wanting to 
tune in to catch some of this 

1665
01:21:03,270 --> 01:21:05,380
uplifting and positive 
messaging. 

1666
01:21:05,390 --> 01:21:08,640
Where they gonna find it? 
Me saying no, America has no 

1667
01:21:08,650 --> 01:21:10,120
hope. 
Yeah, just find the positive 

1668
01:21:10,130 --> 01:21:11,080
message. 
It's great. 

1669
01:21:11,090 --> 01:21:12,360
I mean, you said it was such a 
smile. 

1670
01:21:12,370 --> 01:21:13,700
It felt like it was very 
positive to me. 

1671
01:21:13,710 --> 01:21:16,930
I felt fine about it. 
Maybe that's just because I like

1672
01:21:16,940 --> 01:21:19,380
showing off my nice teeth and my
parents paid for the braces for 

1673
01:21:19,390 --> 01:21:21,130
it, but who knows? 
That's it. 

1674
01:21:21,140 --> 01:21:24,280
People driving on Instagram at 
it's like you can find me on 

1675
01:21:24,350 --> 01:21:27,180
TikTok. 
As of right now, Lily Kate show.

1676
01:21:27,230 --> 01:21:29,780
I'm on my 4th account so I can't
promise I'll be around for that 

1677
01:21:29,790 --> 01:21:31,900
much longer, but hopefully 
you'll be able to find me either

1678
01:21:31,910 --> 01:21:34,650
way. 
I'm taking a break from the 

1679
01:21:34,660 --> 01:21:37,070
podcast right now, but hopefully
have some exciting things coming

1680
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:39,650
in the future. 
So just go to my Instagram and 

1681
01:21:39,660 --> 01:21:42,710
you can find everything there 
and you'll definitely find 

1682
01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,420
updates on any long form content
that I would be blessed to do in

1683
01:21:45,430 --> 01:21:47,830
the future. 
So thank you for having me on. 

1684
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,330
This was so fun. 
And thank you for all your 

1685
01:21:50,340 --> 01:21:53,970
questions and. 
I'm not going to say it was the 

1686
01:21:53,980 --> 01:21:56,590
hardest thing I've done today 
because again, I did work out 

1687
01:21:56,600 --> 01:22:00,940
and it was pretty intense, but 
it was that's that's always good

1688
01:22:00,950 --> 01:22:02,220
though. 
If you set the expectation that 

1689
01:22:02,230 --> 01:22:04,160
high, then everything becomes 
easy afterwards. 

1690
01:22:04,170 --> 01:22:06,350
Right. 
So it was just another FBI trick

1691
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,010
on me. 
That's probably what it was. 

1692
01:22:08,020 --> 01:22:10,670
Got you Good, as they say. 
Lily, Kate, thanks so much for 

1693
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:11,750
joining us. 
I really enjoyed it. 

1694
01:22:11,760 --> 01:22:14,120
I hope you come back and talk 
again when you when you're 

1695
01:22:14,130 --> 01:22:15,330
engaged. 
You have 11 babies. 

1696
01:22:16,120 --> 01:22:17,540
Oh my gosh. 
Thanks. 

1697
01:22:21,620 --> 01:22:24,450
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1719
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1721
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1733
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1734
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1735
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1736
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1737
01:24:15,250 --> 01:24:17,700
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1738
01:24:18,190 --> 01:24:21,940
Some days I only have an hour in
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1739
01:24:22,050 --> 01:24:24,100
Appreciate all you're doing. 
Greg. 

1740
01:24:24,150 --> 01:24:24,650
Greg. 
No. 

1741
01:24:24,660 --> 01:24:25,700
You know what? 
Thank you. 

1742
01:24:25,710 --> 01:24:26,920
I don't think you're out of 
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1743
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,880
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1744
01:24:30,930 --> 01:24:33,000
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1745
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1746
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1747
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1748
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1749
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1757
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1763
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1764
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1766
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1767
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So if you're holding off, I will

1768
01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:29,290
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I will tolerate it. 

1769
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1771
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We really do appreciate you. 

1772
01:25:36,040 --> 01:25:38,610
We will see you again tomorrow. 
Have a great day. 

1773
01:25:38,620 --> 01:25:40,650
God bless you. 
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1774
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