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only Lily Kate. Lily Kate, welcome to the Kyle
Serafin Show. Hi.
Thank you so much for having me.
You're smiling now, but this is going to be the most difficult
thing you do today. What do you think?
I mean, I just worked out, so we'll have to see.
Alright, let's work out your brain.
OK? Luckily for you, you're going to
be the expert on basically everything I asked you.
So you've got that in your corner.
So I want to know, where is Lily K?
Where are you from? Houston, TX And you tell people
everywhere you go that you're a Texan.
I think it should be in the energy that radiates from me,
but if they don't pick up on that, I always make sure to let
them know for sure. Outstanding.
OK, What is it that is unique about Texas that nobody else
understands? If they're not from Texas, what
is the Texas energy that radiates?
Texas Energy is you have a specific independence that
you're, you have a level of self assuredness, you have a level of
creativity. But you know, they call us the
Lone Star State and really that's exactly how it is.
We have a bunch of independently minded people who love their
faith, love their country, but primarily love their state.
We always got to let you know that everything is bigger in
Texas. And while that is very true, we
do have a very deep swamp. So you know, hopefully we'll be
combating more against that as time goes on.
But yeah, Texas is really just an independent spirit.
And a lot of times. People are Texans.
They just don't know it yet. And when they move here, they
finally find a place that they're comfortable in that they
understand. It's just like Zach, Brian, you
know, keep heading South because they let you play your music
really darn loud. And essentially that's what
Texas is. We're big, welcoming,
independent place. I've never heard someone say
that. A lot of people are Texans, but
they don't know it yet. That's a great line.
Thank you. My I think my wife was a Texan
and didn't know it. She went to the University of
Texas from New York and she's a naturalised American because of
it. Do you think that?
I think that since my boyfriend's an Aggie, I can't
support that decision. You're not even involved in that
conflict. They have to be loyal, you know,
They've done good. They've done well for him.
Although he does want to go to UT eventually for his law
school, so I don't know how that's gonna work.
He's gonna have to get another ring.
You wear the ring. A specific ring first, but yeah,
let's talk about that in a minute.
Let's talk about growing up in Houston.
What year were you born? 2002 My goodness.
OK, 2002, which makes you about 20 and change 21. 21 Yes, that's
a big that's a big year. So I don't want to short you on
that one. Tell Tell me about being born in
Houston in 2002. What was life like as a kid?
How did you see America? What was your family like?
Yeah, well, I have a very unique upbringing.
I was born in Houston, like in the city, and when I was like
maybe three years old, my parents moved out to the
outskirts of Houston. We moved on to some land and
they actually decided to homeschool.
All of the kids and our family. So I have five siblings and grew
up homeschooled, Christian, classically educated.
My dad is a lawyer. My mom is an Irish immigrant and
was the best homeschool mom you could ever ask for.
And my dad was also a pastor at the church that I grew up in for
about 12 years, the 1st 12 years of my life.
And so I had an extremely stable upbringing, an upbringing that
both parents were very much involved in our daily life and
our schedules and our education and taking us to all the classes
and all the places that we needed to go.
And I really attribute a lot of the the intellectual pursuits I
have and the love for pursuing those kinds of things to my dad.
My dad has seven degrees, and he's working on his eighth.
He wants to get to 10 before his time is up on this earth.
And so we've just been really blessed to have a family of
lifelong learners and a family that's dedicated not only to
building culture but spreading the gospel as our primary focus.
I think we can appreciate that. And you said eight kids, Where
do you fall in the birth order? There 76 kids.
So 06 kids. Sorry.
Yeah, yeah. Sorry if I may have said
something wrong. Yeah, so I am the second oldest,
but I'm the oldest girl, so I have an older brother and then
four younger siblings. And how young is the youngest?
He's. 10/10 Well, you should know that one.
I know I just start losing count cause every year magically they
all get older then I just don't even come up.
That sounds like a parents excuse.
I have that I looked over when my daughter just passed her swim
test at the YMCA and the guys like how old is she?
And I was like, yeah, how old are you?
I know she's five or six, but she's six.
I should know that 77, right? Yeah.
They get older every year. That's going to be a challenge
for your whole life, it turns out, a lifelong challenge.
Looking forward to it now. What does your brother do?
He's older than you. How much older?
He is actually 17 months older than me and he went to Baylor
University when he was 16 years old and he was a student body
internal or external vice president, one of the other and
he's now Colorado and just got married and doing his working.
And he also just became the national Spike Ball champion of
the United States. Couple of weeks ago.
So we're very proud of him. What is Spikeball?
Spikeball is a new sport that's emerging from college campuses.
It's essentially like where you play tennis, but there's a small
round net in the middle that's elevated like 8 inches off the
ground. And you have teams of two and
you, each of you all stand around the the net and like, hit
the ball. I really don't know all the
rules, to be honest, but he's like kind of one of the best in
the world at it. Officially.
Now he's officially one of the best in the world at a sport
that we didn't know existed until you just told us.
But now we're excited. Listen, it's going to be, you're
going to hear about it and it's it's a lot bigger than I guess
you would think. But you probably been removed
from the college campus system for a long time.
But I'm saying let's just make an age joke.
If anyone's tracking that, she just said I'm old.
I just heard it. I laced it in a nice compliment,
but I'll say 10 years and it'll be in the Olympics.
Really. What about pickleball?
Is that going to take over to? Could be, I don't know.
I don't know. Mentioned the Spikeball and
gymnastics, OK, Did you do sports growing up?
I I consider gymnastics a sport. Yeah, so I mastics.
And then I had the Tommy Johns famous surgery on my elbow,
moved to dancing and then broke my foot dancing.
And so I decided, you know what? Maybe this isn't for me.
So I started pursuing academic speech and debate and then built
a YouTube channel and then switched to politics.
And so here I am now. Now, one of the things that
people will detract from homeschoolers.
My kids are home schooled down, too.
But I went to, I went to traditional schools.
People always used to say when I was growing up that
homeschoolers end up weird and antisocial.
You don't seem to be those things.
Tell me about that. That's such a common stereotype,
and to be honest, I've met quite a few of those types who really
only their only social interaction were like the
chickens on the farm. And while we love and appreciate
those people, we want to help them in every way possible.
I think assuming that. You're just going to plop a kid
into public school and they're going to be, they're going to
come out the other end. Well socialised is kind of a
really big assumption and a big risk.
The type of home schooling that we did was we had a super big
community. The place specifically where we
live in Montgomery County is known for being the
homeschooling heaven of Texas. And so pretty much every other
person is home schooled. There's a lot of home school
churches, co-ops and things like that.
So lots of resources here to be able to have a really, you know,
wholesome and well rounded home school education, but we had to
go out. And make our relationships
intentional. We had to really curate
friendships ourselves. It took a lot of active work.
We our house was like the big party house too, and having so
many siblings, we were always having more people over.
So really, while that is a stereotype that we've run into,
I find that a lot of home schoolers are actually better
socialised because they can talk to adults, they can hold real
conversations, they have things to add to conversations, because
generally I think the art of conversation has been completely
lost. We've become a generation of
people who really only know how to react to things.
It's almost like when we talk to people, all we know how to do is
like, like or comment. And that's pretty much all that
we can add to conversations anymore, Especially you see this
in Generation Z. And so I find that homeschoolers
are much more engaging in conversation and better
socialised in that way because we've had to be so intentional
about our relationships. I think that's a good,
interesting idea. Do you know that Daniel Tosh
supposedly was home schooled as well?
The comedian. Oh, I didn't know that.
But that's that's good to know. Maybe that's why he's so snarky.
He's got some pretty good, you think.
Could be that. Or he's just a great writer.
I think he's a great writer as well.
All right, so did your parents follow a curriculum?
I think that's the other thing. My my wife went out and found
some curriculums. Did they follow a specific
curriculum? Were they making it up with
their own? You got a dad with a bunch of
degrees. He probably could figure it out.
But how did that work out? Yeah.
So at the beginning, my parents essentially went to a bunch of
like home school conferences, which they truly do have those.
And they shopped around at all these different places that had
different curriculums for different subjects.
So the people we took math from were different than the people
we learned history from or different than the people we
learned grammar from. And they essentially just picked
a pick and pick and choose whatever they decided what they
wanted to, what they wanted to pursue.
And then later in our education they put us into like a Co op
who that was a classical education.
So we were able to. Really, instead of learning the
basics of math and science and prepping for SAT, they would
bring us in and say here's a Bible, here's a current events
book, or here's a current event that's happening.
You have 5 minutes to make a speech go.
And we were graded on those types of things, How well we
debated, defended our arguments, how well we discussed how well
we gave speeches as opposed to traditional STEM activities.
And so that was really the the part of my high school education
that was taken out of my parents hand.
But they definitely laid the foundation with the curriculums
they chose. Now you've described yourself as
an anti feminist. What are the expectations when
you were growing up? What were the expectations and
were they different for for boys and girls in your family?
No, Well. The expectations for me were and
still are to choose well when I get married and to be a
Christian and. Really to just pursue what makes
me happy and fulfilled and you know outside of having a
beautiful and good marriage and also being a Christian.
And so really the expectation for my parents has been do what
you are filled by, but also don't forget about the things
that really matter which are family and faith.
And so essentially that's been the expectation for all of my
siblings. We've all been really lucky
because my dad's motto is money into memories.
And so we spent. He spends most of his money on
us, making sure that we're taking care of, but also that we
have. Been able to travel the world
and pursue things that we've wanted to.
We've never had a lack, which has been just so wonderful and
has set us, set all of my siblings up for success and
completely different areas, completely different industries.
So yeah, the expectation really is.
Take your face seriously, marry well, meaning a good Christian
person, and then appreciate family and just then pursue on
top of that whatever makes you happy and fulfilled.
I didn't hear that you had to be very successful in a particular
career. There's none of the lawyer, the
doctor thing that I kind of grew up with in the in the 80s and a
lot of the sort of the Gen Xers remember that was the success.
You know, if your kid was a lawyer or a doctor, they win.
Was there any push for that? Did you guys see that?
Were you seeing your colleagues that had that sort of ideas and,
you know, did you guys push back at all?
I think my parents have an assuredness that all their kids
are going to be sort of successful in their own ways.
And so my parents never specifically pushed that on to
us. I think the only things that my
parents pushed was, hey, if you're a guy, you should
probably go to college because as it's looking, none of the
girls in our family are going to go to college because I started
my own business. My sister Laura is going to be a
Broadway dancer and hopefully a Rockette one day.
And then my other sister Annie is a fashion lifestyle, vlogging
YouTuber who has almost so many million subscribers.
So we're all kind of trying to be successful in our own.
Say the expectation for my peers, I would say there were
definitely, you know, some families who the dad did this
career and the son must do this career and the daughter must all
also follow suit. But my parents were never about
forcing us to do anything because maybe it's just like the
British Isles, Ness and the rebellious Scottish Fighting
Irish that we have in us. But they knew that they couldn't
exactly make us into who they wanted us to be.
All they could do was guide and allow us to choose what we
wanted to do and they would be our like assistance and our
support system along the way. So the approach though my
parents took was very much they can guide, they can lead, and we
will make sure that they're maintaining good morals.
They're still learning how to read, they're still learning how
to write, and we'll help them accomplish whatever they need
to. And we'll be there every step of
the way. Alright, fair enough.
Let's talk about feminism a little bit, shall we?
That's what you That's kind of where you made your bones.
Is that fair? Yeah, let's do it.
What is feminism today? There are lots of people who
would say it's a movement about equality and achieving equality.
That's not true. Feminism today has become a
movement that is focused on. Female domination over men and
eradication of any perceived. Meaning not real male hierarchy.
In any institution or in any place of power.
So it's essentially A Marxist organisation of ideology that
ties a woman's value to money. And is that good for women?
Is not good for women. Tell me some of the downfalls.
What do you see from your end? Cause you're pretty young.
There's a lot of people in, probably in my audience, that
were driven to go to work. They were driven to be
successful in careers, whatever that means.
And you know, the definition of what was successful for women
and what we were going to support as a society has morphed
dramatically, even in my 40 years on the planet.
So I'm curious how you see it. How I see defining women's
success or what are the pitfalls of feminism?
Yeah, the pitfalls. What is it?
What is it kind of changed into for them?
Got it. Yeah.
So. Well, I guess we need to start
with where Marxism was basically the birth of feminism, So out of
the French Revolution, like so many other bad ideas.
That's where all the bad ideas in the world came from.
There was this group of women, middle class women, who were
very unsatisfied with the lives that they had.
And they decided, huh, let's start having a thought
revolution and start just putting ideas into women's minds
that we are. Being treated badly, we are
oppressed like we are all the things that we want to claim the
victim to. And essentially with that
complaining mindset, they found Marxism and decided, I guess all
men are oppressing all women everywhere.
And they kind of set up feminism within the framework of Marxism,
which was men are oppressors, women are oppressed, men hold
the power and they're actively trying to take away the power
from women. And so essentially what that
turned into was. The pursuit of achieving
equality for. Everyone.
But then shortly after achieving that, it morphed into OK, well,
we need to keep going with this. So let's have women start
dominating men. And so the pitfalls of thinking
that way is you get a bunch of women who are trying to not
empower women or empower themselves, but to be and
compete with men. Because essentially from the
beginning, feminism asked the question, why are women not
making as much money as men? Let's just take the most blatant
example that they they always like to bring up the wage gap,
right? And they say well, instead of
how can we? Allow women to make more money.
It's been OK well, how can women compete with men to just beat
men at the games that they play? So recently I posted a video
saying that the question has never been what can we do to
empower women with feminism? It's what can we do to compete
with men or make women more like men?
So the pitfalls of that, I think, are pretty obvious.
If you're a woman and you're trying to be masculine, or
you're trying to be a man or you're trying to compete with a
man in arena that is traditionally been an arena that
only men compete. And one you're not going to do
that. Well, you're not going to
compete well, you're not going to be fulfilled and happy.
And in fact, you're going to end up a lot of times alone and
lonely when you're in that arena because you're a woman competing
against a bunch of men in an in a in a way that you think you
need to compete against a bunch of men.
So the pitfalls of that are why would a woman try and do
something that a man should do? So women came up with this in
the French Revolution, and then how did it morph into the United
States? What was the sort of the the,
the foothold that it took here? That's a great question.
This is like such a fun topic to talk about.
So essentially after the French Revolution and of course you had
a mass migration of people coming over and then you have
the rise of real academia and the idea of let's just, you
know, have all the crazy radical leftist ideas, let's have them
boiling in academia. And then we'll start talking to
in peoples ears about what society should look like and
what why Marxism is good and why this way of thinking is good.
And so kind of a couple things were happening at the same time
after the French Revolution. So you had the birth of real
academia in the West generally, but you also had urbanisation
and kind of the industrial revolution that happened, which
for the first time took the economy away from the household.
So before this, for all of human history, the economy has been
what can a household produce? And it was based first and
foremost around the house and the family.
That was the basic unit. But as you have cities start
cropping up and people actually going in to work and you have
factories and you have efficiency becoming the main
goal of a capitalist society, you see that since men
traditionally are more fit to go work and don't have the quote
unquote like the feminists like to call it, burden of childcare.
Men would go into the cities and do the work and then either come
back out or the whole family would move into the city.
And this is talked about in depth in this book, Feminism
Against Progress. An excellent book, definitely.
Should I definitely recommend it if you're in for an academic
study. But so women started for the
first time asking the question, well, why am I not allowed to
quote unquote, participate in society?
Because public and private life had been split because of the
industrial revolution and where urbanisation and the use of
factories and the de emphasis of the family was going.
So you have academia pushing these ideas of women's
liberation and women domination, and actually let's frame
feminism as a Marxist idea. And then you had the economy
start changing, um, and you had all the the ways that people
were able to make money completely changing and being
more emphasised on individual productivity as opposed to the
families productivity. And then you had this societal
wide split of public and private life and women often in like
after the industrial revolution and as it was continuing into
the 1900s, you had a lot of women who were saying, I don't
know if I necessarily like this new way that the economy is
formed. So you have all three of those
things happening at once. And that's really where the idea
of feminism started springing up.
And so feminism used to be an answer to an economic or trying
to be that is, an answer to an economic question, to a legal
question, to a social question, to a political question, and
also to a biological question. Unfortunately, now you have the
legal questions answered, which is, yeah, everyone can vote.
Yeah, you can't get paid less because you're a woman.
You know, you can't be discriminated against because of
your sex. But feminism, unfortunately,
hasn't been able to answer the biological question, which is
why are there differences between men and women?
And now feminism's primary goal is to erase the differences
between men and women. So a lot of times it sounds like
I'm trying to just, like, put women back in the home,
permanently repeal the 19th, you know, all of that kind of stuff.
I'm not trying to do that. I'm trying to help women
understand that the way that the world has existed for like all
of human history has not been focused on the individual, it's
been focused on the family. And feminism had some good
things that it helped accomplish.
They're not responsible for all the accomplishments.
We can go into that in a little bit, a little bit later, but and
then feminism just kept going and has really turned into
something sour that is anti woman that is inherently
extremely Marxist and is really just destructive for the
feminine side of women which should never be discounted.
My wife says, who thinks about these kind of things all the
time? This is something that's
probably more fascinating to her in a lot of ways.
She says that current feminism is essentially internalised
misogyny and and it essentially has taken on masculine roles and
pushed them on women and made women compete as men.
It sounds like you guys would probably be in agreement on
that. Do you have any sort of
disagreements on that idea? I mean, your wife is exactly
right and she sounds amazing, Lena Gordon said.
The nuclear family must be destroyed and people must find a
better way of living together, Robin Morgan actually said, I
feel that man hating is an honourable and viable political
act, that the oppressed have the right to class hatred against
the class that is oppressing them.
And actually this is a fun one. Sally Miller Gearhart had a
couple pages in this essay called The Future.
If there was. If one is female, she said the
proportion of men must be reduced to and maintain
approximately 10% of the human race.
And so while I agree with your wife sentiment that yes, it's
become this internalised completely, this internalised
misogyny against men trying to replace men in any hierarchy and
any structure to tear down the structures that we have, there's
actually a something that takes it a little farther, where
you're like, Oh no, these women want to hate men and destroy men
and every chance that they get. Do you think any of them are
happy? Oh, of course not.
My favourite example of this, and maybe you think I'm a little
gruesome for thinking this is ironic, but Shulamith Firestone
was a radical feminist thinker in the 1950s, sixties and 70s,
and she absolutely hated the nuclear family.
In fact, she said that the revolutionary or utopian goal of
feminism was to Oh no, that was Kate Millett.
Shulamith Firestone said is it's the nuclear family is the most
neurotic lifestyle that we've ever developed and we need to
completely abolish it. And it means possible.
Who's going to raise the kids, right?
Well, here's how her story ended.
She froze and starved to death in her own apartment.
And people found her a month later because they started
smelling that her body was decaying and she had no friends,
really. She had no family.
And she was a super radical feminist that rejected marriage,
that rejected family, that hated children, and that spent all of
her life trying to just raise this ruckus about how women are
oppressed. And so I always like to bring
that up because that is the meanwhile.
That is an extreme example. You don't want to go down a path
where you are man hating. You are family hating.
You are life hating because there is a chance that you could
end up like that, that no one you have, nobody close to you,
nobody cares about you until they're starting to smell your
rotting, dead body through the walls of your apartment.
You want to know? The sad irony is, is that it was
a man that broke in that door to go in and get her body out.
It was probably a man or several men that carried her out of
there. Because that's that's who does
those jobs. I'd say that as someone who's
worked as a paramedic, has worked in law enforcement and
has had to recover dead bodies, it's not a fun game.
But I also would never wish it on my wife or my daughters.
I don't want that for them. It's a burden that I would take
on. There's something I want to kind
of double back to because I want to use with you a little bit on
this. Yeah.
The dismantling of the nuclear family and that.
It happened a lot during the Industrial Revolution when we
changed the nature of work. And and there's something kind
of fascinating there. Do you remember maybe you don't
know this. Elizabeth Warren wrote a book
called The Two Income Trap. Have you ever seen her sort of
evolution to be sort of a wild feminist from where she used to
live in her mental state? To be completely honest, I
haven't paid too much attention to her because she just sounds
like a vapid, screaming old woman at this point.
She does, yeah. So I haven't read that, but I
am. I'm aware of of what she talks
about, yeah. So, so let me let me throw this
into your lexicon because you might find this fascinating.
Not so much because she's a great thought leader.
I don't much care for Elizabeth Warren either.
And she's got that, like, I'm gonna get me a beer or whatever.
Those like weird videos of her just trying to be her person.
She's trying so hard to be a person, right?
She's more like, she's more like a lizard person, I'm sure, but
but she she didn't used to be. Looney.
Her party has actually sort of run off and she's followed that
like so many women her her age have decided that that's where
the power structure is. So they're chasing that power.
She used to advocate on behalf of a 2 income trap.
Which is to say that men and women both working in the
workplace would end up in a worse position.
Because rather than relying on one income and what we would
call in the military a single point of failure, if you fail as
a man and you're in the workplace, there's the potential
that your cottage industry, you talked about taking the work out
of the house, the cottage industry.
Would be able to back you up. Maybe your wife has a selling
business. Maybe your wife makes brownies
and sells them at a bake sale. I don't know, like whatever it
is, maybe the woman that works at home, maybe she has.
Maybe she's a counsellor like my wife and she works part time and
she keeps that. So maybe she has that ability.
My wife doesn't work right now other than taking care of kids.
But if she did, she would she would she would work as a
counsellor because that's what her degree was in.
And so if she were to go do that, she could theoretically
supplement that that point of failure that I might have and be
able to keep us floating. But what we've done, according
to Elizabeth Warren, this is the fear she saw going back to,
like, the early 2000s. In 2002, probably about the time
you were born, we'd have to see when that actual book was
written. But what she said was, is that
if men and women both compete and they both put their incomes
into the market. You're going to have two incomes
worth of competition for things like childcare, for things like
homes, for things like schooling, private education, so
on. And you're going to bump those
prices all the way up to the point where now it's not 1
income that you're competing, it's two.
So a guy like me who has only has one income, I'm now
competing against double income if I want to put my kids into
private schools or to buy houses or everything else, and it's
going to make it worse for everybody.
And if one of those two fails, the mom or the dad has a
problem. Now you've lost 50%.
Or maybe you've lost 30% of your income and there's no one to
make it up right? So this was the two income tract
that Elizabeth Warren actually used to know about.
A lot of that sounds like it goes back to the industrial
revolution. What you're saying is just
fascinating to me. Yeah, it really does.
Because if you just put, you know, 50% more people in the
workforce, then you're going to have a lot more labour to go
around. Therefore prices are not or
labour and and what people can make, the prices are not going
to go up. Like wages have not gone up and
obviously you have inflation and you have taxes and you have all
the macroeconomics competing. For example, like in a minimum
wage proportional proportional to inflation from like 100 years
ago should be $55. But it's obviously not because
just that's how the dollar is and it's based on debt and it's
based on nothing at this point. So yeah, and I think wages
haven't grown for so long because of obviously the
macroeconomics of it, but because there is so much more
labour to go around. And essentially when feminism
adopted Marxism as the framework in which they thought it came
along with the consequences of hyper almost capitalism saying,
you know what a woman's value is not the fact that she brings
life into the world, that she's a culture creator, that she's
beautiful, all the things it said.
No woman's value is her productivity as well.
Because Americans, while we love the individualism we have, you
know, hyper individualism is not great either.
And so if we continue pushing the idea that productivity is on
an individual level based on how much, I'm sorry, value is on an
individual level based on how much productivity you have, and
then you have a bunch of women into the workforce, then you
were in the situation that we're in.
And I'm really worried for Generation Z because not
everyone generational wealth isn't really a thing in America.
It's not really a thing all around the world and in the West
generally anymore, But how like we're screwed.
All the land has pretty much been bought up.
Rent is extremely expensive, food is expensive.
How is anyone in my generation going to be able to get ahead
outside of having super big entrepreneurial dreams or you
know, really fancy white collar jobs like being a lawyer or
being a doctor which take almost, you know, $500,000 to be
able just to practise law or to be a doctor.
So it's just like the cost of entry so high now that I just
don't know how my generation's going to get ahead.
And again, I don't think the the fix for this necessarily is
taking all women out of the workforce.
That's not practical. I wouldn't want to put a bunch
of women out of work just to accomplish my anti feminist
goals. But our generation Gen Z, we
have a very serious conversation about like how in the world are
we going to be able to do this if two incomes is completely the
norm, but nobody's making the same amount of money and prices
keep going up. And and women don't seem to be
any happier because of it, at least when we look down the line
of the 5067 year old feminist who may or may not die in their
apartment alone and have their cats eat their face kind of
thing, right? I mean, that was always the fear
when I was a kid that people would talk about, oh, you don't
want to end up alone and have your cats eating you like the
crazy cat lady sort of stigma. It's still there.
It's still. There and and it's real because
there are some really angry. Do you think some women that are
in that age bracket, the 50s through the 70s, maybe even the
the early 80s, are pushing this because they're vindictive and
they feel like they got conned and they want your generation to
eat it too, Have some of that? Yeah.
No, that's such a good point. And I think there's a lot of
truth to that because misery loves company more than anything
else. And so if you're miserable and
have been tricked and you bought into a scam for your whole
entire life and you have no one around you, you have no
children, you have no husband, you have nothing to pour your
energy in, that natural want to give, that women have, what are
you going to do? You're going to turn into a
sour, bitter, old person who is miserable and has been eaten and
eaten up and chewed up and spit out by the world.
And so of course you're going to want to have people buy into it.
Now, there obviously are many stories that I've seen, many
women who are like, yeah, man, I bought into that feminist lie
and that is, it is not good women.
I've known personally stories published as op eds and
editorial opinion pieces around the news.
Like, you'll occasionally see a story pop up of, yeah, I really
regret the decisions that I made because of feminism.
But until women decide to really wake up and see that this is
such a rotten deal for them and it's such a scam, then you know
they're just going to continue to do it because all our older
women are telling us no, no, it's the best thing that you
could do. I love the fact that I'm an
executive assistant to the CEO. I'm submitting to another man
outside of submitting to my husband.
In fact, I divorced my husband and got half of his land anyway.
It's great. Gross, right.
So gross. It's really gross.
It I I do feel like there's an awakening though, that's
happening that women are starting to look at it and think
they got a raw deal. I heard people like Brett Cooper
the other day say that sort of thing.
She's just like, you know, we're sort of programmed to do
something very different and we're fighting against our
nature. She's very young.
You're pretty young. You've got some pretty advanced
ideas compared to what, you know, it took my wife years.
We didn't figure this out and thing out until we were in our
30s and you seem really ahead of the curve.
Are there people in your age bracket that are starting to
look and go like maybe you guys don't have to figure out?
You don't seem that happy. Ah, yeah, no, that's it's
actually so incredibly true. I go to a lot of college
campuses and I talk about why feminism is terrible.
And of course, like, I have, like, people with septum
piercings and purple hair, like, in the audience, like scowling
at me, like making such angry comments muttering to
themselves. And I'm like, OK.
But the vast majority of these girls are girls who put in
effort. They dress nice, they're
beautiful, they're feminine. And they're like, yeah, like, I
love the college experience I'm getting.
I'm really thankful. But I don't want to have to just
work for the rest of my life. That doesn't sound great, but I
have to work because I got a pair of these student loans,
because it's not fair to lump that onto a husband.
You know, right? As soon as you get married.
Yeah, somebody should have told my wife that I help.
We paid for her masters together.
See, that's the thing. I know I.
Didn't supposed to be done. That's what you do.
You buy into the whole thing. Who cares?
Yeah, you buy into all of it. And yeah, I didn't go to
college, so I'm. I'm hoping that.
Way ahead of the curve. I don't think my kids are going
to go either. I mean that's that's that's the
natural. So here's the fun thing, right?
Because we're seeing this happening right now.
You're actually sort of in the maelstrom and your and your age
bracket is in the maelstrom of people making that turn.
When I was a kid, if you didn't go to college.
You were going to be a failure. That was assured, right.
And there's a big amount of money that you were going to be,
you're going to be missing out on.
My wife, I think we paid 25 or $30,000 for her masters.
At the end of it. I know I ended up paying, I
don't know, something like that, 10 or $15,000 for my
undergraduate degree that wouldn't get you a year right
now in most state schools, people your age bracket.
So you're seeing something very different and it's kind of
interesting how you guys are pushing back.
I say you guys, but it's you and and and people that have that
awareness like you do. And you're saying, hey, maybe
maybe college isn't required for everybody.
By the way, that's the also. The position of all of human
history. It used to be just for the
elites, right? I don't know why we thought
everyone had to have it. Why did Why did everyone have to
go to college, you think? And yeah, and I think just
because Americans could. And college used to be a sign of
wealth and being in a higher class than other people.
But I think what boomers hate to realise is like, class doesn't
really exist in America anymore. You have different social groups
and you have different levels of income.
But we don't have that same rigid class system that a lot of
people like to harken back to and feel like they're superior
because they went to a specific college.
I mean, if you say you went to Harvard, I'm like, OK, whatever
doesn't affect me. Like you're probably just
severely in debt and have a bunch of quirky and kooky ideas
and so yeah, you're you. We are really seeing this turn
of people saying, yeah I don't really need that.
Mostly because I mean it's kind of a supply and demand thing
because college I don't think will ever go away.
But at college is accessible to almost everyone because there's
so many scholarships and loans and all these different ways
that you can get into college that now it's really a thing
that is not actually special. So what's special is you're 21
and have built a six figure business.
Like in the case that I have and so I'm I'm becoming kind of the
anomaly outside of like oh people parents look at me and
they're like whoa, I don't know really what what to do with you
because I can't ask you what your degree is and what your
internships are. They don't exactly know how to
deal with me sometimes. But here's another thing.
Conservatives often have this idea that well I don't support
college but like if you're going to be a lawyer or doctor or an
engineer, then you should like really go to college.
I think that is the stupidest thing.
I mean I even used to say it's it's so stupid.
You should go to college and you should like Michael Knowles
says, Once you study dusty old books and old people, you know
page pages of of philosophy and you should want to like.
Look at old art pieces. That's what higher education
should be. It shouldn't be a training
ground for you to be able to practise a job just like my
entry level of practising, like being a social media manager.
That's what I do like. I just have to have like a
subscription and Final Cut Pro and a subscription to Canva and
then I'm good like the entry levels, like 400 bucks.
But for someone like my boyfriend, who's going to be a
lawyer, he's going to have to pay a lot more than 400 bucks to
be able to practise the thing that he wants to.
I think that law firms, that engineering firms, that
hospitals and places like that should be the ones providing the
training and the standardised training that you get, almost
like a trade school. So I think it's so silly when
people like, well, if you're going to be a lawyer, doctor,
engineer, it's like, no, you should go to college to expand
your mind and study old books and classical things and music
and things that you can't get anywhere else, AKA work
experience. I would say in this 20 years
ago, this is very interesting to hear from your mouth because I
used to think it was so funny. It's it's actually used to be
considered an elitist position to say that only a few people
should go to college. They're the people that can
afford leisure, that have money, that have parents with money or
whatever, and they go study things that actually have no
tangible value. But it's nice that people know
them, like philosophy and Latin and can tell you in the original
Greek what Aristotle said about the nature of the universe.
Talk about Noel. Well, I I compared Plato and I
saw this was the thing and this is the idyllic version.
This is what the historical arguments were for and against
democracy and oligarchy. Oh, very good.
I love that. Very nice.
What do you do with that? Thing I can't even turn a
wrench. I don't even have a like, Plumb
my house, right? And you're correct, there's
something about do you need your accountant?
Do you have an account, by the way, that handles your business?
Yes. Do you need your accountant to
have a discussion with you about Western Civilization levels 123
and four that he probably had to take or she had to take going
through college? You need that Western SIV
conversation. No, I don't.
Although my accountant is pretty epic and we do have those
conversations just right. Because they had to go.
Maybe that's something that they were interested in, but my
account really, if they wanted to get that degree in.
In 18 months, I'd be comfortable with that, yeah.
It's like competency. Know what the law is.
Make sure that you can count the money, right?
Your math skills are on point. You don't even need to know how
to do complex math. Turns out financial math is not
that complicated. So there is an argument for
trade school and then actually restoring that sort of elite
level of education only for the people that really can afford
leisure. That'd be fun.
Or for people who just really want to pursue that.
I mean, I don't know that college should go back to being
a completely only thing for the quote unquote upper classes.
Because I think that a rigid class system, while it has its
benefits, I don't think that's what America has been built on
and won't be something that does very well for us.
Because rigid class systems, we've only seen it really be
successful in Britain, but that was because of Christianity.
So maybe we shouldn't focus on it being just something for the
quote unquote elites or the wealthy.
But we should have it only be focused on expanding the mind,
going into deeper truths, talking about we we say useless
things like philosophy, but I love philosophy.
It's very. Other two, you can't understand
the world without it. We need philosophers just
doesn't. It just doesn't pay well.
It turns out you you may have to be successful, it may have to be
a hobby, or you may have to be able to do that as sort of a
leisure pursuit because you already have some financial
abilities. The upside is, is that you're
growing up in Internet age when everybody can find the entire
collected history of the world. On their phone, they can walk
around with it in their pocket. Yeah, yeah, that's absolutely
true. They can also find pornography
and things that sort of destroy women's value in a lot of ways.
Does it, Do you see that in some of the things that you've been
discussing? And do you guys, do you talk
about that at all in college campuses?
I have definitely seen it. There are tonnes and tonnes of
women who attack me from every angle every single day.
When I say, yeah, only fans is not a good job or a woman
shouldn't sleep around or you should not embrace feminism.
Because feminism has the tendency, the awkward tendency,
to re objectify women when it comes, when it comes down to it,
because we're taught now that Cardi B is the most empowered,
should be lauded as the most glorious person ever.
And I'm like, well, she's actually just jiggling on the
stage, like objectifying herself for everyone.
Houses, prying eyes and only fans and pornography.
Those industries, I believe, are exactly the same.
And they go, they do go hand in hand in terms of what they tell
women. So we have so many societal
forces telling women that it's interesting actually, let me go
back to 2nd wave feminism, because second wave feminism was
focused on the idea that women are more than their bodies and
their bodies are something that should be, only, you know, used
for men, but also women should be able to love whoever they
want. So you had this like weird
tension going on of half the 2nd wave feminists saying no, we
should erase the female body because it has too much power,
and then the other half saying that no, we should just a rates
all sexual mores and sexual norms and just have free love
for everyone. So you have these two movements
happening in the kind of the 1960s and 70s.
Then then it got to about something in the 1990s and the
academics types that were wanted androgyny wanted women's bodies
to like not be marketed everywhere.
They kind of, they kind of got a little bit quieter then and the
pop culture, Spice Girls kind of MTV girly started really taking
hold and saying, you know what, my body gets views.
So I'm going to use my body in whatever means possible, because
if my value is a woman's based off of my success, and I find a
lot of success by doing it naked music videos and filming
pornography or just, you know, making a spectacle of myself,
and I'm going to pursue that because that is empowerment and
that is where my values coming from.
So really going into the 2000s with the rise of social media
and also the rise of just like not, I guess arise technically,
but you have a lot of broken families where girls aren't
growing up in a stable environment.
They've never been loved and cherished by their dad because
the only way that a girl has confidence is because of her
that 100%. The only way she'll know how to
be loved is because of her dad. And so a lot of fatherless homes
have these girls who turn out totally crappy and seeking
attention and love and admiration in all the wrong
places. So they naturally go to TikTok.
They naturally go to places like only fans because not only is it
giving them instant gratification of getting tonnes
of views or a paycheck every two weeks or something like that,
it's also filling the tank that they believe is getting filled
with love. But of course, we know that only
fans is not a way to fill the the love tank in your life.
So yeah, I mean it's interesting how you had to competing ideas
of where a woman's body and value comes from in the second
wave of feminism, but the one that appeals to men's and
women's most bases desires ended up winning out.
And now we have 15 year olds who are wearing nothing but eye
patches over their boobs on, you know, TikTok flaunting
themselves around thinking that their empowerment and their
value comes from views. It's I hadn't thought about it
that way. So I appreciate the idea that we
are tying now the financial value because if women have to
be financially successful and if that requires them to do
something that is promiscuous or non valuable for their self,
they're basically sacrificing themselves.
But you know one of the downstream consequences also
only a very small number of women can be successful in that
right. So if you go look at the the
number of women that are making a tonne of money on only fans,
you know the the the 1st, 20 or 30 are making shocking amounts
of money, 1115 million. We covered this on my podcast at
one point. Like millions of dollars.
Per month after the take that the the company gets, which is
also making a tonne of money, they're the ones who really win,
but there's got to be a lot of people that are also making very
little money. Right.
And they have all the same risk and exposure and all the same
downsides that might happen without the millions of dollars
to compensate them. Yeah, absolutely.
But of course it's kind of like any multi level marketing scheme
like oh, if you just really work at it, you will and can be
successful. And it's like well, again, we we
have yet to see a lot in all of these spiritual, emotional, just
scars that women are going to have to endure because of this.
The ones who are participating in it and also the ones who are
not participating it because you have the people who are acting
and then you have the people who are hearing, Oh, well, if if
she's making a bunch of money on this and she thinks it's OK,
well then how does that affect me?
And how does that affect my my decisions and what I'm thinking
about and what I'm validating? So, you know, you have this very
loud minority who said I make $1,000,000 every single month on
this. It's crazy.
It's insane. It's super easy.
You can do it too. And girls are like, well, she
seems happy and she's making money because since my value is
is I have to be successful, I have to make money, Femininity
has no consequence and it doesn't even matter anymore.
Then, Nan, I'm going to, I'm going to pursue that too.
And yeah, sex work is real work. And that's the inevitable
conclusion of what we have here. Which is really scary stuff I
think what what does that the downstream effects for
interpersonal relationships have to be pretty extreme too and and
your generation is going to sort of deal with it in a bigger way.
I'm happy that you're in a productive relationship that
looks like it's going somewhere. That's not necessarily the case
where a lot of your your peers or at least your age bracket
peers are looking at most of them are probably in the same
the same both that like my wife and I thought like, oh, you got
to use your 20s and figure out how to get married.
Maybe when you're 30s and but that time you're actually old.
I can tell you this. I'm like, I have a new baby.
I'm 41. I'm old to have a new baby
because I'm really tired. Like like I'm I'm a lot more
mature than I was when I was a kid, no doubt about it.
But I watched one of my friends, one of my buddies actually has
kids that are in college right now and and and my oldest is 6.
So that's the that's the sort of the the flip right.
The cost is, is that some of these, these your peers are
going to be dealing with something very difficult, I
think. And what are those downstream
effects look like of, you know, sexualization and and and
devaluing sort of femininity and all this kind of stuff.
Yeah. First of all, congratulations on
your new baby. That's so exciting.
I cannot wait for my time. It'll be amazing when it
happens. But Oh my goodness, where do we
start with the downstream, the, the downstream effects?
I mean, let's, I guess we'll start with just the plain
romantic relationship. You have men who are addicted to
very intense and violent images of pornography or worse.
And then, you know, you have men who are experiencing real
difficulty in having a connection with someone.
I mean, I don't know. I'm not married yet.
So, you know, this is just what I've been hearing from guys who
are, who are addicted to this kind of stuff.
They have a very difficult time connecting with a real woman in
real life because she's not an only fans model who has
$1,000,000 every single month to do a bunch of cosmetic work and
a bunch of editing to every image or video that she puts
out. So you have the devaluing of
women. You have men not being able to
fully connect with and engage with a real woman who you know
is in real life and she's not only fans.
Model. And then you have, yeah, you
have the desensitisation of the, the power that sexual
relationship probably has on a person's spirit and on their
mind and on their body. And so, you know, as a
Christian, protecting your heart is one of the most important
things that you can do. It says this, I think in
Proverbs 320 or 420, I think it's 320, it's guard your heart
above all else. And so I assume you've probably
seen Harry Potter, Is that correct?
OK. So I think about it in this way
in terms of how the there are going to be repercussions for
women. So through the whole Harry
Potter, you know, and I'm also not one of those who wouldn't
watch Harry Potter. I get it with the hyper, really
hyper strict people. I'm just not one of those.
So the bad guy, Voldemort, essentially the first movie
starts out with him, him like not being him being like
attached to that guy's head or whatever.
So it turns out that his soul, Voldemort soul has been split
into a bunch of different places and cast all around the Harry
Potter world. And he has to spend 8 movies or
eight books collecting all of the parts of his soul and
putting them back together so that he can like take over the
world. I see a woman who sleeps around
a lot like Voldemort. She has doled out parts of her
soul all around the all around the world.
So all these random guys, whether it's viewers on only
fans or whether it's just casual relationship hookup
relationships that she's having, she's doling out pieces of her
soul to all these people. But unlike Voldemort, she ain't
going to be able to go and collect those again.
Because once your soul's gone, like you don't have like little
totems or little time pieces that you can just go recollect
it and magic spells to put it all back together.
So I I'm watching women voluntarily shatter the beauty
and the femininity and the purity that they have by seeking
love in all the wrong places. And that really is the biggest
downstream effect from women or for women in regards to this
hyper sexualized industry. And then the final thing I'll
mention as how it's going to affect women is, you know, a lot
of very valiant feminists who maybe hadn't bought into the
whole picture of radical feminism and man hating and not
shaving your armpits and things like that and to at least
appreciated a woman's value said, you know what, I don't
want to be objectified. I just want to have, you know,
my life and keep to myself. But unfortunately, now you have
girls who are willingly object re objectifying themselves for
money. And so apparently it's not OK if
a man is objectifying you on his own accord, but it is OK if
you're doing it and objectifying yourself for money.
So I'm always like, where's the consistency there?
But those are just a couple of the consequences for
relationships and what my generation's going to face in
the future. Yeah, really uncharted
territory. It seems like too.
So let's talk about fixes, because nobody likes to just to
dwell on the negativity. I think we all see that the
world is falling. We know that we are living in an
area that is outside the Garden of Eden, and so be it.
So how do we exist in this world?
What are some of the things? That the advocacy that you're
doing specifically towards women, but also how you interact
with young men, kind of explaining to them maybe
pitfalls and pathways out of this.
The first thing I always focus on is just helping women
understand their own brains. There is so much of a culture of
self help and understanding yourself in psychology and you
know any ground tests in Myers Briggs and personality tests.
And it comes to a point where it's like we may know a lot of
things but we really don't truly understand ourselves.
What our prime motivators are, what motivates us, what drives
us as women who are different than men.
So the first thing I always focus on is I'm like girls,
you're different than a guy. You have different wants, you
have different needs, you have different things that you are
attracted to or deterred by you, You are just different.
And isn't it ironic that I'm spending most of my time talking
about the difference between men and women now?
It should be so obvious. But as we know with Matt Walsh's
documentary What is a Woman? You know we're we're back at the
basics. So I spend a whole lot of my
time explaining the differences of the once and needs, just kind
of unravelling what the feminists have told women for so
long. You know, feminism tells women
you want a career, you don't want to be married, you don't
want a family. All you want to be is completely
liberated and Unchained to a society and you want no
responsibility and you want to have no accountability to
anybody else. But all of those things are
completely false. So I spent a lot of my time
rewiring how women should perceive themselves, perceive
their value and perceive their place in opposed, you know, as
as different from men. So that's the first thing that I
focus on. The second thing is, you know,
feminism preaches that it's accomplished 2 things for women,
freedom and happiness. So those are the 2 main, you
know, banners that feminism is like, we've done this for you
and you owe your loyalty to us because you're a woman.
It's like, well let's examine and see if feminism has really
accomplished those things. Women are not happier today.
I mean, literally you can see this in the numbers.
There's a study called the Decline the paradox of Women's
Declining unhappiness and it basically examines the self
reported levels of happiness of women from the 1970s until now.
And obviously, spoiler alert, women are not happier today for
a multitude of reasons. And, you know, you can see that
women are not happy pretty much at all.
And then women are technically, I argue, not more free.
Yes, we're allowed to vote. Great.
OK, we do that once every four years, and then once every two
years if we're actually dedicated and vote in primaries.
But like, yeah, we have the right to vote, but at the
expense of what? Everything else.
The life of a beautiful woman, a feminine biblical woman who can
be free to enjoy her family, to enjoy her husband, to enjoy the
life that they can create together.
Because now she's a slave to the 9:00 to 5:00, you know, work
week, 40 hour work week. She's a slave to probably half
the prescripted drugs that she's been prescribed.
She's probably a slave to birth control and goes completely
crazy because that you should never mess with your hormones,
especially by injecting A synthetic hormone into a
bioidentical hormone. So ridiculous.
But their slaves to their base desires, their slaves to their
they're just worst emotions, no accountability, no nothing.
And so I always try and tell women I'm like, if you really
want freedom and happiness and there's different way of
receiving it and then, you know, kind of going and talking about
how traditional roles and biblical structure can be able
to replenish and replace that. So I guess all of this is
summarised in a in a message of women, you aren't happy,
obviously, and you know that to be true.
Stop lying to yourself and saying that you are happy and
fulfilled by the things that you're doing.
And guess what? We have an alternative.
And it's better and it's much more fun and you will long term
be so much more joyful that you've done that.
And so I really enjoy this trade wife movement, women showing off
their beautiful family lives, what they do at home.
She's baking banana bread or if she's going out with a pretty
dress on with her children. I think that is going to really
inspire a lot of women who think, yeah, this is a scam and
I I really do want something better.
So anyone who is a trad wife and posting content like that, I
really encourage you to continue and just keep painting a
positive moral vision about how beautiful your life is.
Because that's the thing that essentially is going to win the
girls over pretty easily coming up against feminism.
They just have to be able to really tangibly see the the
different life that they could have outside of what feminism
has painted for them. I want to see a movement of trad
wives that are like the real trad wives of America, where
they're like, I don't have time for makeup, my hair hasn't been
washed in two days, my kids are pooping on my clothing.
You know, I had a baby spit up on me.
But there's nothing more fulfilling because because
that's what for me, it's one way to curate your your, your life
and show everybody. My wife always tells me she's
like, look at these people. They got all these kids, they
got these, like, you know, the animals, they got this thing.
They're making butter this lady doesn't like.
Podcast. And I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She has someone else cleaned her house.
She has to pay other people to do stuff.
There's no way she's doing all the things that we're doing
because we're just treading water.
And you know, good for her for making that kind of money.
But if that's what the real world of it is, like busting
your ass with one other person and it's just you and them
against the rest of the world. Like it's always been.
You brought up faith, You brought up the the, the pill.
I want to touch on that a second.
There was a funny little moment and I did this on my podcast.
I shared it. I actually got copyright
infringement from YouTube about it.
I I showed Joe Rogan. And he does this amazing moment
where he was like, we don't really fully understand how to
make human beings happy. If only there was like a
guidebook or a manual that would show us, like, how to optimise
human existence. And he walked right up to it,
yeah, but he couldn't get there. He's so close.
He was raised Catholic the way that I was.
He was raised with the Bible. He was raised knowing that there
was a Christian faith that made people even the most miserable.
Existences, like human beings, have not had it really good for
most of their existence, but they figured out how to find
happiness. Joe Rogan almost got there.
He was almost there. He's got too much money to
figure out that the Bible is right there in front of him.
He could just buy one. Let's talk about, let's talk
about abortion and the pill as sort of like the answer for
feminism and sort of what that that cost looks like, you think?
Oh my gosh, yes. Such a I can't believe we
haven't touched on this already. It's just such an important
facet of feminism. So you know.
You have feminists asking the question, how can we erase any
inequality to make women just like men?
And eventually you get them the right to vote, You get the Civil
Rights Act, you do all those things, you're eventually going
to run into the question of biology and.
There is a remarkable and very distinct difference between men
and women in terms of biology, as we should know by now.
Apparently we don't. That you know, the feminists,
they they they believe, they truly believe that the right to
abortion, the right to end another person's life, is a
fundamental human right. Because it accomplishes equality
and it simply makes women the exact same as men.
Because any inequality is perceived as the worst evil in
the world and any difference. Is perceived as equality, which
is perceived as the worst, the worst thing in the world.
So you know, you, you had them run up to biology and say OK
well fine, we need to be able in the name of equality to
eradicate. Women's ability or yeah,
women's, women's privilege of having children.
And so that's where birth control, the motivation for
creating birth control, while also birth control, was
completely a eugenicist. Idea and Margaret Sanger, who
Major League championed it, was also, like best, used Hitler.
So we can't overlook that fact. And let's talk about the fact
that like 85% of Planned Parenthood's were put in
minority neighbourhoods with lots of people of colour to
basically sterilise the black population in America.
Because there's a whole documentary called.
Oh, I don't remember what it's called, but it's by Live Action
and you should definitely go watch it if you want to see the
completely racist roots of birth control and abortion.
They're great, by the way. What live action?
They're great. So good, so good.
Always on top of it. But I would also like to mention
one more thing that isn't it interesting that.
The legalisation of over the counter and easy, easily
accessible birth control happened eight years in eight.
It happened in eight years. And then eight years later
abortion was legalised because there was this whole idea that
women were just like getting pregnant and having like a bunch
of kids and then they had to do like back alley abortions.
What's like abortion didn't become legalised until after
birth control was widely used and so you always have to think
about like, why is that? But essentially, abortion is the
answer to the feminist question of How do we?
Erase any distinction between men and women biologically, and
the gruesome end answer to that question is just the death of.
A million children a year. Yeah.
They just have to sacrifice all the babies, right?
How do you answer women when they say, well, you're just
trying to control women's bodies?
Because that's the answer. They say if you're a pro life,
man. Yeah.
They say, well, you're just trying to control women's
bodies. I'm like, no, I only wanna kind
of guide one woman's body. I don't really care about the
rest of you except actually like babies.
I think they're awesome, You know, Would you if you weren't
killing them? And if you admit that you're
killing babies, which most of them have a hard time, they they
want to change the words like foetus, and they want to use
this. But how do you get over there?
You just want to control women's bodies and tell them how to act.
Yeah, well I on the language of it.
First of all, say do you know what foetus means?
In Latin, me as a classically educated person who had to take
Latin is the only language credit I ever had.
Foetus literally means offspring or baby.
And so if you just, like, translate it, you know, put it
into Google Translate and then just press convert like, you'll
be fine. You'll understand the actual
truth of what is being said. So I mean, first of all, on the
semantic point, we have all the evidence we need because of
Latin, but. This is a super fun conversation
because of course I'm going to go with the traditional, well,
it's actually not a woman's body.
I am not trying to control a woman's body.
I'm trying to control the ability of a woman to kill
another person. And so this is where they
always, you know, roll their eyes because of course, that's
the basic talking point. But I was taking a step further.
I always say, OK, let's talk about the science.
So did you know at the moment of conception, there is a 100% new
blueprint of DNA? There is a like distinct piece
of DNA that has been created with everything coded into it.
Eye colour. Hair colour, personality traits,
all the things that you need it at the moment of conception.
And so I say, OK, so assuming that this DNA is going to
continue to grow and get coded, you know, and turn into the
person that it's supposed to be, what is the difference between
me right now and me in the moment of conception when all of
my DNA was set out basically just to to unfold and I say
what? Well, what is the difference?
And the only right answer is time.
The difference is 21 or a little bit over that years from moment
of conception until me now. So then I I lean in and I say,
are you discriminating based on age?
Are you being ageist? I cannot believe how intolerant
you are being against people who are only three months coded into
the DNA process. I cannot believe how intolerant
you're being. And then you get them to stutter
and then use their sputter and then they just run away.
So you always have to take that little argument a oh, it's not
your body a step further, and then turn it back on them.
And accuse them of being discriminatory in some way.
Because as we know, to the left, discrimination is the worst evil
of mankind. Worse than the Holocaust.
Everything's worse than the Holocaust.
Everything Worse than Hitler. Except Hitler.
Hitler's the worst. Right.
Except Hitler. That's that's the paradox of
being a leftist is that you have to deal with that.
It's, it's kind of interesting. I'll have these discussions with
my mother in law. She'll actually admit, yes, it's
a human being. It's an inconvenient human
being. And that's why we have to kill.
That's kind of hard to to run up against because now we've moved
into a place of morality where it's like, Oh well, you're
you're OK with with child death. Wow.
It's just a matter of and and there are people that feel that
way. And I feel like that once you
expose that, it's like, well, we probably not going to connect on
values in this in this world. Right.
And well, when you're talking to them, there's always a third
person. If you're you're having a a
conversation with someone who you get them to admit, yeah, I
don't care about children, I want to kill babies.
You say at that point you're not trying to win over that person,
you're trying to win over the third person, the audience.
You are trying to win over the person who is watching and
basically make yourself the rational person.
Because if you can't win the person you're arguing over, then
you win the audience over and they're going to decide that you
win the conversation or win the debate anyway.
And so you always need to remember the third person in the
room whenever you're engaging in these conversations and
highlighting the difference. And here's another just tactical
thing that I think conservatives really need to get better at.
We for so long have. Stayed in the realm of of just.
Not using our emotions. And I know like facts don't care
about your feelings and that's great, but we need the pathos,
OK? When they say I'm fine with
killing children, you need to make sure that you are reacting
honestly to the crazy thing that they just said.
Because when we say men can't become women, it's like as bad
as the first time I drove a car with my mom in the passenger
seat, it was, Oh my gosh, you're going to kill us all.
That's the worst thing. That's, you know, they react
like we're the crazy ones, we're not the crazy ones.
And So what we have to do is when they say, yeah, I'm fine
with killing children, we need to react.
We need to shame them, we need to mock them, We need to
marginalised terrible, dangerous ideas and we need to basically
win over the other people with. Our reaction saying, did you
really just say that? That is crazy.
So I think if we can start almost weaponizing our reactions
because we've we've been so desensitised.
But it's like think about what they're saying and then react
accordingly. And they're going to start
feeling that social pressure and being like, yeah, maybe my
position isn't great based on the way that the audience just
reacted to what I just said. Because we know that social
pressure is really powerful. And so if we can turn that
against them, then we'll have a lot better chances of actually
advancing the narrative along with the facts and logic.
But that's just a housekeeping. Point that I would really like
to promote a little bit more. Adding a little bit of the pesos
to the argument. Adding a little bit more of that
reaction which people should be able to see.
I had one of those moments on social media, by the way, I
think yesterday and and somebody, a trans person who I
believe is a female, who calls herself a male, which is very
weird as a male because you can't become like me, it's not
going to happen. You and I could not be the same
thing. I promise you I will always be
able to beat you in an armoured competition.
I don't even want to, but I can. If I could just tell you by
looking at you, I can. I guarantee it.
I will Absolutely. I bet every penny I have it's
it's just the way it works out and and she reacted to me like a
female did. She felt very offended and she
went off in this emotional and it was like I was like you know
who doesn't react like you men. Men don't.
It's just like you can't escape your biology sister.
I know you're trying you're trying so hard.
One of the things that you do, you advise young women sort of
the the ways to look for what a successful relationship is going
to look like in this post crappy feminist world where we actually
kind of go back to the values that make sense.
What values are you looking for and and do you value in your
personal relationship that you're saying?
This is what I'm modelling. This is why it works out and
this is how we find it. Yeah, the 1st and biggest.
Of course, it's the obvious one. It's faith.
I mean, is the person that you're dating equally yoked?
Are they actively pursuing a relationship, a very intimate
relationship, with the Lord? Are they in a state of
constantly wanting to grow and improve or are they in a state
of oh, I'm fine, I'm just coasting, everything's great and
fine. So that's the first thing you
need to look out for and, you know, be very serious about
them. My, my boyfriend and I, the only
disagreement we have is essentially when you should
baptise children. He's a Pedo Baptist, which means
baptised when they're babies and I'm a Credo Baptist, which is
when they reach salvation, That's when you need to get
baptised. And obviously all of that is not
exactly salvation issues, but you know, we don't disagree on
anything else to do with faith and that really is the
foundation of our relationship, so.
You need to find someone who takes their faith extremely
seriously and uses their faith as a vehicle to examine and
improve themselves. Because really, marriage, from
what I've heard from all the marriage experts, is marriage is
just forgiving someone over and over and over and over again.
And if you find someone who sits in unforgiveness or you sit and
unforgiveness, then you're going to have a rocky marriage and
you're not going to be able to improve anything.
Because unforgiveness is the biggest foothold that Satan has
in relationships and just in our personal lives for sure.
So that's the first thing. Something to that for you, so
you can add it to your lexicon. You ready?
I think if you're doing it right, it's you realising that
you need forgiveness, not forgiving somebody else.
Ah, it's whoever asks for forgiveness first wins.
Always. In the case of my boyfriend,
it's definitely him. It's it's it's hard because it
involves humility. Imagine that.
Yeah, you'll figure but. But if you think about, but if
you want to look at a Christian principle, it's simply it it
always comes down to look for the the plank in your own eye
versus the speck in your in your neighbours or in your case, your
spouse. If you can do that, you win.
It's really hard. That's why.
It's one of the things that we all struggle with for our whole
lives. I'll just tell you that that's
my, that's my thing. Whenever I know that I did the
wrong thing first. And it's very hard for me
because I always think I'm right.
It's it is my nature. I'm very dominant in that way.
But by doing that you actually win.
And and my wife is really good at it too, because she, she
trained it. She has a marriage and family
therapist. She's a masters in it.
So she spent a lot of time studying people's.
She sounds absolutely perfect, to be honest.
She's she's saying it. It takes a special kind of woman
to deal with certain types of men.
It turns out. And it turns out that that's
kind of the way that we're we're meant to pair up.
Right. OK.
So faith, what I heard from because I want to broaden this
out for people that are not necessarily in a faith
tradition, but that's similar values and a similar hope for
the future, is kind of the short way of saying what you just said
That makes sense. Yeah, similar goals and a
similar a similar way of dealing with conflict that will come
into your marriage. Because, you know, like you said
earlier, it's it's you against the world.
When you're with your spouse, it's team US against everything
else that's happening. And if you can't, if you don't
have accurate processes to deal with life as it comes at you and
as it's all hitting the fan, then everything is just going to
erupt. And people especially who are
more on the passionate side and the yelling side of things, who
like, you know, maybe are a little a little bit fighting
Irish like me, maybe maybe inclined towards a little more
drama. A little bit more drama.
You know that's not going to be something healthy.
You need to learn when to disarm and when to put the weapons down
and say, OK, who's the enemy here?
It's not my spouse. It's not.
It's not us. Since each other, it's it's
really, you know, I would say Satan, but for people who are
less rights, the mailman who didn't deliver the package on
time even though I ordered it too late, right, that's.
Exactly. That's exactly next.
Did you see your parents have conflict and and resolve it in
ways that you try to emulate? Yeah, definitely.
And I, since I have so many siblings, I've seen them all
kind of take that route as well. And yeah, resolve conflict in a
way that is patient and God honouring.
And I'm still working on it, being such a passionate,
debating kind of person who is a verbal sniper whenever I need to
be. So learning self control over
the tongue is really, really an important thing in in
relationships. But yeah, yeah, it's been great.
Also, you're in a major danger if you plan on marrying a
boyfriend who's going to be a lawyer.
He's getting formalised, training in arguments and and
catching you in your own words. So this is going to be
interesting for. You.
Yeah. I don't think you necessarily
wants to be a litigator. So I think I'm in the clear a
little bit there. But yeah, it's how they learn
how to how to think. I have a brother who's who
thinks that way. He always thinks he's the best
debater at this point because it's a different way of looking
at the problem. But I'll tell you.
The the my boyfriend. He is one of the only people who
could actually genuinely beat me in a debate.
He's the only person who could ever convince me that gravity is
not real, even though I know he's wrong.
He's he is that smart. But.
Yeah. So he has to use that
responsibly then? Right, right.
Right. So yeah, I mean, generally
though, in relationships it's the similar values.
It's how do you deal with conflict?
And remembering who the enemy is is just a really, really
important facet of what to look for if you're a young woman or a
young guy who's looking to find the one.
Another thing I would say is stop falling for you know.
Ed Sheeran's perfect song or stop falling for these love
songs. I have died every day.
You know, like the 1000 years or these beautiful, perfect like
you know, in every movie there is a whole life after the I do
at the wedding scene, after the guy finally got the girl.
Stop making the expectation of your every moment, the three
minutes of someone else's love song.
Just stop doing it. You're going to have unrealistic
expectations and that is going to set you up for major failure
because. Having expectations is a
dangerous business. Yeah, I'll tell you this, I wake
up every day. I remember listening.
I was a love song. I was a sappy love song guy.
Love, sappy love songs. I don't have a lot of patience
for them anymore because I'm a grown up and I just think, like,
I just go like, I don't have any.
Like, that's not how things work.
You want to know what love is? It's waking up every single
morning and making a conscious decision to to work with
somebody that you know that you choose to be with.
And that's that's actually way harder.
And it's way more admirable than like some sort of silly night in
shining armour. Although I do really like The
Moody Blues, which is well before your time.
It's before my time. I really like some of their
like, you know, you know just iconic sort of love songs but
they're still silly. They don't make any sense what
you've been right. Once you realise what real love
is, it's real love is like holding your your wife's hair
back because she's sick and she's been she had food
poisoning and and then taking the kids and and letting her
just lay in bed for three days when you.
Yeah, it's it's so much uglier. I gave my wife a bracelet when
we got married and it just said from here on out, no matter what
happens and on the inside of it says it's you and me against the
world. Nobody else needs to see that
part of it, right. That's the part that you agree
on. You create that unified front.
One of the worst things you'll see is when you see spouses out
in public and they're fighting with each other, or you'll see
somebody go and devalue their spouse to a stranger, right?
Nothing worse. There's nothing worse you doing.
Right. Yeah, you're you're you're
you're short circuiting your own sort of like, unified front.
I always think that's funny. All right, Look into your
crystal ball for me. You're young, you got a lot of
life in front of you, I hope, and this country seems pretty
screwed up from my end of it. Are you hopeful?
Are you optimistic? If so, why?
I wish I could be a little bit more hopeful than I am.
About the world generally. But being a Christian and being
a conservative, our idea and our worldview is built off of the
idea and the fact that the world is a tragic, fallen, broken,
awful place. So in terms of do you have hope
for the future of the world? Well.
I know it's going to get worse, and I know there's going to be a
World War Three at some point. And I know that the Antichrist
is going to reveal himself. And I know that there's going to
be the great Tribulation. And only then after that will
Jesus really come back. And I'm not trying to, you know,
chalk it all up to escapism because I think that's quite
frankly, very annoying when people are just, Oh well, Jesus
will just come back. But I have assurance that in the
end he will win. And until that, my calling on a
personal level is to release women from the full on demonic.
Attack of feminism and to help them unravel the lies that
they've been steeped in and the lies that are so easy and pretty
to believe. And so do I have hope for the
country. Hi.
I I really think America if if we we don't really start
sounding the alarms even more and taking our of our personal
lives and and using those as examples to.
You know, really fight for the truth and fight for good values,
then we're not, we're not going anywhere, anywhere good.
So and again with the economy and living conditions for
Americans, those are rapidly declining.
And I truly hope that we can get a president in here that can
maybe have an economy half as good as Trump's and quality of
life can go up again. But.
Yeah, for my personal life, I don't have an 11 kids.
I'm going to be married, you know, hopefully within the next
2-3 years. So I'm good, I'm happy, I'm
excited and you know, I have a beautiful community of people
who love me. I have a huge family and
couldn't couldn't be happier personally so.
I I like that. I like 11 kids you got.
We got to outbreed these clowns. That's really the keys.
They're always like killing their own children.
I'm like, well, you're making the job real easy over here.
Because have you noticed that the LGBTQ movement doesn't
really grow by repopulation? They only grow by recruitment.
Hmm. Better marketing efforts.
It's a religion of converts, the leftism.
It's the only way they get him because they hate babies.
Right. They're not replenishing
anything. No.
And I also say this, and I think you can appreciate it.
You know, just because we know God wins doesn't mean that
America wins. If you think that America is
God, then you're a leftist. Because that's what that's what
they're about. That's that's good.
Yeah, that's really good. Love that.
Sad too. Sad that it's like all right.
Let people know where they can follow you, where they can see
more. I know you have a podcast as
well, that people wanting to tune in to catch some of this
uplifting and positive messaging.
Where they gonna find it? Me saying no, America has no
hope. Yeah, just find the positive
message. It's great.
I mean, you said it was such a smile.
It felt like it was very positive to me.
I felt fine about it. Maybe that's just because I like
showing off my nice teeth and my parents paid for the braces for
it, but who knows? That's it.
People driving on Instagram at it's like you can find me on
TikTok. As of right now, Lily Kate show.
I'm on my 4th account so I can't promise I'll be around for that
much longer, but hopefully you'll be able to find me either
way. I'm taking a break from the
podcast right now, but hopefully have some exciting things coming
in the future. So just go to my Instagram and
you can find everything there and you'll definitely find
updates on any long form content that I would be blessed to do in
the future. So thank you for having me on.
This was so fun. And thank you for all your
questions and. I'm not going to say it was the
hardest thing I've done today because again, I did work out
and it was pretty intense, but it was that's that's always good
though. If you set the expectation that
high, then everything becomes easy afterwards.
Right. So it was just another FBI trick
on me. That's probably what it was.
Got you Good, as they say. Lily, Kate, thanks so much for
joining us. I really enjoyed it.
I hope you come back and talk again when you when you're
engaged. You have 11 babies.
Oh my gosh. Thanks.
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I think you are just getting ready to get back into shape.
And we appreciate it. Put it on a put it in your ears
and go for a run with us. Take the calls here and show for
a run like Steve Friend. You don't have to do 12 miles
like that crazy. You could do one.
That would be a good start. Get yourself back in there.
We really appreciate you doing it folks.
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We will see you again tomorrow. Have a great day.
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