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Welcome to the Kyle Serafin Show.
Today is Friday, August the 25th.
It is now just a little bit after 8:30 in Texas, America.
I'm going to do a little something here because we are
having an interesting gremlin. The last time that I spoke with
you guys, you mentioned that the audio level was too low and I'm
going to fix that right now. So interestingly enough, we have
a device that we run, it's called loop Back.
It allows me to run multiple audio sources in to our stream
and for some reason I said it at 100% audio and then I watch it
and it just adjusts downward, downward, downward and downward.
And I have no idea why but all of you in the chat that are
constantly saying hello to the rat bastards at the FB I I don't
know if it's related but I have not found a single setting that
would allow it to constantly adjust audio downward.
It is a strange, strange thing to do with Steve.
Friend and I have been trying to sort of shortcut this problem
all morning since we got started.
So I've got it loud and clear right now because we're going
direct, We are not using the software.
But man, something pretty strange going on there.
We will spend the weekend working on this.
So a lot of you were asking about baby updates, water break,
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Some things about that are just going on that are news.
The Today's loop is going to be talking about Trump being booked
in Georgia. So we're going to talk about
that for sure. It's got an FBI official
testifying behind closed doors. We're actually talking about
that today, talking about the Maui fires.
You're going to be interested in that trans predators in
Wisconsin prisons. There's a whole bunch of stuff
in these loop emails that I think you guys will find of
value. So check those things out.
And then lastly, and I think we've got a little bit of a pick
here for it, I think we should be able to bring up this is the
suspendables website, itsthe-suspendables.com and our
friend GOB, actual Gerto Boyle slinging tshirts.
If you guys are looking for merch, we actually do have a
couple. You can support the suspendables
and specifically support Garrett O'boyle with this endeavor.
We have the website thedashsuspendables.com.
If you leave the Dash out, you're going to go to a hockey
website and that is not the same as what we are about.
All that being said, let's launch into it here.
Let me start bringing on some human beings that are my
friends. How about this guy?
You guys know him. There he is.
That's the real Steve friend. Hey, buddy.
Good morning. How you doing?
I'm doing well. And would you know, Would you
know it? We have another interesting cat.
Let me bring this guy on. Who's this guy?
There he is. Are you?
Are you slumped down? I'm going to have you turn your
camera downwards. Although you have some cool
stuff you've been. You could tell Garrett has moved
into a new location. He's been able to.
There it is. Look at this.
He's got the, the, the. Only time I've ever been taller
than Garrett in my life. Yeah, and it won't happen again,
unfortunately. You're doing a great job.
All right, you all. So these are the suspendables.
We're going to talk about some articles.
I'll put myself into a little small space here.
We're going to bring up some articles to talk about the first
thing that what's been going on this week, which I think, like I
said, historic and insane is the fact that our former president
has been indicted yet a fourth time and then brought in to get
mug shots done. Because everybody is treated the
same. There is no special justice
other than the special justice of a guy who didn't go to
Georgia and apparently committed Rico while doing a thing.
That is it. Just a political action talking
about the standards and the issues that you might have with
an election. I'm going to pull the sucker up.
It's just bear with me as we do this one.
Kaboom. There it is.
There you are, gentlemen. Trump booked into the Fulton
County Jail after charges stemming from the 2020 election
probe. Did you guys ever do any probes
when you were working for the FBI?
Did you ever initiate a probe? I.
Never did. You worked in New Mexico, so
that's that's where the probing would go on for all these
extraterrestrial investigation. That is factual.
That is correct. So they sent the bail for for
Trump at $200,000, right. We saw this pop up.
This was yesterday. Big sort of to do.
And then it also resulted in Donald Trump returning to
Twitter. Does the world change when
Donald Trump gets back on Twitter?
Not for the 90 plus percent of people who are unaware of what
goes on on that website or we can't call Twitter anymore,
right? It's XI can call whatever I
want. I'm.
I'm an American. I still call it Twitter.
That's right, Garrett, What do you think?
Did you see his tweet, by the way?
I saw his truth post. I didn't see his tweet yet.
It was simply a mugshot and I wonder actually I may be able to
pull it up on another screen here, but it was his mugshot and
it just said never surrender. I have a couple thoughts on
this. Send it.
But wait, wait, can I just interject one thing?
Him going to Georgia? Was him surrendering?
Was it not? He was presenting himself to the
courts. I don't know if that is a
surrender. Doesn't mean that he's giving up
the fight. But yeah, in some ways, I mean,
they did call it a surrender, right?
It's a. That's what we would call that
if somebody came in and turn themselves in.
I mean you know, I saw the mug shot and I thought perhaps I
will render it down to a simpler image and and put it on the back
of a tshirt. It is a really, really
aggressive mugshot as far as those go.
It is, you know, I think I heard on Bongino, he said.
That Trump should not have paid the bail and he should have just
he should just sat there and I like that take.
I mean that would that would get people riled up just think about
the crisis that would create for the Secret Service that would
have to go through and just set up the prison for their.
The county jail. Nice, right in Fulton County
which I'm sure is really nice and has probably really nice
facilities. The outside looks okay as we're
seeing on the screen right now. I'm going to read a little bit
here from this this article and I'll let you guys continue on,
says the courts at the bail at $200,000.
He was quickly processed and release jail record stated that
Trump stands 6 feet 3 inches and 215 pounds and the record stated
that his hair is either blonde or strawberry with blue eyes.
There is the picture for those you are watching on a rumble
channel that is a pretty that is a pretty irritated looking man.
Pretty iconic in most ways too, wearing a suit, power blue, red
tie with that little logo. So some people have gone out
there and made a little meme creation option so you can
actually create your own Fulton County Sheriff's Department
booking photo if you like to stand in support with the
president And people have. But the other thing is, of
course 12 other people were involved. 17 other people I
guess were involved in this. And so you had people like Rudy
Giuliani and Cindy Powell and Jenna Ellis and a bunch of
others. Jenna Ellis was smiling in her
photo. Do they generally recommend a
smiling mug shot? Is that does that play well?
No, I think it's distorts the view if you ever needed to
locate you again. It's kind of like your passport
photo. It distorts the view but.
She's a happy warrior. Jenna Ellis is, you know she's
she's obviously not going to get any support from from Team Trump
on this because she's now in the DeSantis camp, right.
But I heard her talking and she makes really good point and I
think. The the overarching problem here
is she worked as a lawyer for a client and the state of Georgia
indicted her for being a counsel for a person who they don't
like. So truly, truly sort of
unprecedented options. The thing that's so crazy to me
is that now people are digging into the tweets of this Fanny
Willis, this woman who is the the DA who obviously is a
politician. That's how you get a DA job.
You don't have to be a good lawyer.
You just run for office and you get elected.
And the interesting thing was she was also challenging the
results of the 2020 election on November 3rd, November 4th,
saying we need to protect the integrity of Georgia elections.
So this stuff has been set up for a long time.
To read Trump's quote, he just said this should never have
happened. If you challenge an election,
you should be able to challenge an election.
I thought the election was a rigged election, a stolen
election, and I should every right, I should have every right
to do that. And as you know, many people
that you've been watching over the years have done the same
thing, whether it's Hillary Clinton or Stacey Abrams, many
others. I think he's right.
You know, this is a travesty in many ways, which is his actual
words. He says that when you have great
freedom of challenge, you'll have you'll, if you don't have
the great freedom of challenge, then you're going to have
dishonest elections. And that seems to be the case.
This seems like a free speech cut and dry scenario.
Yeah, but I mean, I think it goes back to what you were
talking about a couple days ago, the Kobayashi Maru.
Their side is thinking outside the box.
They're just throwing things at it and saying, well, let's find
out what happens here. And our side continues to just
play by the rules and saying, look, this old dusty document
says that I have the 1st Amendment right and I can do
this, that and the other. And they're saying, well, I
don't recognize the social compact that exists.
You know, that document isn't legitimate to us anymore.
So it's an asymmetrical confrontation where one side is
following a set of rules and the other side is making up the
rules as it goes along. So I think there needs to be a
turnabout as fair play here. I back to him whether or not he
surrendered himself or he brought it, presented himself,
whatever you want to label it. Why did he go?
Why didn't he just stay home in Mar a Lago and say I'm refusing
to surrender? He already has the governor
saying that I'm he's not going to participate in in assisting
another state with their political persecutions of him.
So he's got the the governor's support there.
And he exists in a compound. I mean I guess the that would
force the Fulton County authorities to get a you FAP
through the FBI to come and arrest him at Mar a Lago and
then you have a blue on blue situation.
But I mean that we should see that play out.
He should never have surrendered at all.
He should have just refused to present himself and.
And now what are you going to do about it?
Yeah, I think there's some really strange things that could
happen. He's playing a different ball
game, so we'll see how it works out for him.
You know, I'm not. I'm not feeling really good
about it. Garrett, you have any novel
thoughts on that? Probably nothing too novel, but
I think Steve's point about the Kobe Aishi Maru, which I thought
was a great episode and take by you combined with I just bring
my I bring my friends on just talk about how great I am.
That's really not. You say you're not a nerd, but
every time you talk you talk about Star Trek and Star Wars.
I I want to see the action figures.
No action. I love it, the movie quotes.
Before too long, I'm going to be dropping Big Lebowski Bombs the
rest of the episode, but. No, also with the Saul Alinsky
and and that whole ordeal that we talked about, I don't know a
week or two ago, but they are, they have a different handbook
and and they don't care what the rules are.
I mean if that's not clear at this point, I don't know when it
will be because it it it it's very clear to me.
I mean, I've been saying probably, man, probably since I
became a cop, at least that we are on a slippery slope.
And I think we're in full free fall.
That slope has been iced and we're sliding down it as fast as
we can. Did you just get out of the
shower, Garrett? I did.
I can see that on your shirt. That's nice.
That's a good looking, suspendable shirt.
That's one of our merged people, right?
Oh yeah, this is one of the one of the prototypes for sure.
I I will also tell you that regarding action figures, the
only action figure interaction I had was when I was living in an
apartment in in Burbank when I was working at a movie studio at
27, my roommate moved in with a ton of action figures.
He was like in his 30s and he was like that guy.
We had 219 year old college roommates.
They had bunk beds and they were living like dorm life.
In one room of the apartment we had this guy who was in his 30s
and he was a creep. And I was in my mid 20s and he
had hundreds and hundreds of action figures and they were
like Transformers and Boba Fett and all the things.
I don't know what they were. And he went out for like an
extended weekend or something. And I moved them around the
entire house. And I took all of his DVD's,
which were alphabetically organized, and I put them in
like every box of cereal. They filled in every single slot
in the in the dishwasher. I put them in every single
drawer of every single furniture piece in the entire house.
I put one in every single cushion of every single part of
the seat. It's like a classic roommate
prank when you have too much time in your hands.
I put them, you know, like everywhere.
I had the action figures, like hanging from the little strings
that come off your fan and your light, like they were
everywhere. It was insane, and he didn't
much care for that. It was.
It was frowned upon to touch another man's action figures,
but I thought it was should be frowned upon to have action
figures at that age. That was just me.
I I worked with a guy who was like that.
He had them around his desk and he was a big.
Marvel Universe guy, DC-8, superheroes, Star Wars, he had
all the They're collectibles, right?
They're not. They're not action figures,
they're not toys. That's correct.
But my, my kid would come in and I would just take him over to
his desk because my kid is a kid and likes watching those movies.
So he would be excited to see them and he would just ask me.
He's like he was like, dad, how's he your friend with all
his toys? Does he have more toys?
Because I want to go play with his toys.
Clearly, yeah. I mean, kids understand that
these are toys. Like don't touch them, leave
them in the box. They lose their value, loses
their value. Your self worth has been
degraded. Because you, the comic book guy
from The Simpsons, that's that's where they are.
I say grow up. It's tough.
I actually did have a friend in college.
He was like that, and I'm sure some of his stuff, if he sold
his collection and was able to turn that into, I don't know
enough for him to live on for two years, that would have been
worthwhile. But that's not what these guys
do. They just supported.
I don't want to get too far afield than that.
Let me let me bring this article up here.
This is from Daily Signal. This is Tyler O'Neill, who we've
talked about before. He's gotten pretty deep in on
what's going on with the FBI story.
And what we're seeing here is that a judge in this is like
sort of that you talk about playing outside the rules, talk,
talk about playing with a different set of rules.
It's not indoctrination, says a federal judge.
The federal judge is rejecting Maryland parents plea to restore
the opt out for L GB, TQ books and Pride presentations.
And so we have a US District Court.
So that's a federal judge denying Maryland parents a
request to allow their kids to opt out of instruction using
Pride storybooks. And you have a group of people
that are atheist, Christian, Jewish, Muslim, and other
parents demanding that they can opt out of this L GB, TQ book
curriculum for pre-K through 5th grade.
This is not for for high school kids.
You have to go and step into the world and know that this is out
there. We need to make sure that these
kids are indoctrinated, says this Maryland District Judge.
I'm going to read a couple of pieces and let you guys respond
as parents, it says. Although Maryland law allows
schools to allow parents, require schools to allow parents
to opt out of sexuality instruction and provide notices
for such lessons, new policies adopted in March exclude any opt
out rights for this. So that's good.
And then the parents sued requesting a preliminary
injunction from the Montgomery County School district.
Montgomery County, right outside of Washington, DC Garrett You
would have been nearby there if you had taken your new post.
So place I'm fairly familiar with and definitely a lefty kind
of place. But you know, they're still
conservatives living in every lefty blue area.
If you live in Maryland, you're behind enemy lines, folks.
You already know that you're on the wrong side of the state
lines and you are dealing with tyranny.
But this District Judge rejected.
Of course it was a female District Judge.
I'm sure that's not related the parents motion on Thursday.
And it says that that that that the judge that they, the parents
who are suing have not shown that the district's use of
storybooks crosses the line from permissible influence to
potentially impermissible indoctrination.
And Garrett, I feel like you have strong feelings.
Go. I do.
Overall in this country we I'm
not against banning a book because banning books then turns
to burning books and I don't think that's ever okay in a
society if they want to be free and if they want to critically
think. However, when it comes to the
teaching of our children, it is the number one.
It is the parents prerogative to determine what they should and
should not read. When those children hit 18 and
they go off to college or move out or whatever, they do go
ahead and read whatever you want.
But when we are sending them to government school, this is
exactly this is precisely indoctrination.
This is what they want. It goes back to at least the
50s, if not earlier, when government schools started
becoming more and more part of the bureaucracy that we have and
look at it now, if they have the strongest union and they pretty
much do whatever they want and. While you're going through that
article it it reminded me because I had heard of this
numerous times in the last, I don't know, decade of How To
Kill a Mockingbird keeps getting banned or Trying to Get banned.
And I pulled up an article just from this past May where in
Biloxi Ms. of all places, they're trying to ban it because
it makes people uncomfortable. I imagine you guys read it in
high school, if not earlier than that.
And probably everybody in the chat and watching live or seeing
this in the future has as well. I mean it's it's a classic, it's
a fantastic book. There is a ton to garner from
there and to say and and so it's getting banned.
This book is getting banned. But now on the flip side, a
judge is saying no, L, GB, TQ Plus and whatever other sexual
related content, whatever other type of indoctrination they want
to shove down our kids throats while we send them to the
government for a minimum of eight hours a day for about 15
years of their life. That's not indoctrination.
But yeah, go ahead and ban. To Kill a Mockingbird because it
makes people feel uncomfortable. I mean the the, the, the forked
tongue nature of of these type of decisions and rulings.
It it's just, it drives me insane.
Reasonably so. When we had Tiffany Justice on
from Moms for Liberty, one of the things she said is we don't,
we don't make book bannings part of our platform when it comes to
public libraries because the public can do whatever they want
and there's an expectation that there's parental supervision in
those areas. However, if we're talking about
school libraries where you are going to be entrusting your
children, that's where the line is drawn And and that's where
she sees the the nature of this impact and where parents need to
get out there and say, look, if we're not going to be
chaperoning our kids at the school library, then we should
curate a collection. That's appropriate.
Steve, you have any strong thoughts about this?
I know you you've been a a parent and or a parent at a
school board meeting in fact and also one who was told to go
watch parents. So I imagine you've got the both
sides there. Yeah, yeah, I'm a domestic
terrorist or domestic violent extremist.
I guess from the Rbi's perspective or Carlton people's
perspective, we'll get there. We'll get there.
This just demonstrates that you cannot have a separation of
church and state in a functional society.
Clearly this is a religion, and this is a necessary component of
that. You have to educate your young
about the tenets of your religion, and you have to make
sacrifices in religion. You have to cast your kids into
the fires of Malok to worship at the gods.
Of L GB TQA I + 2 S Tilda sign hashtag at at.
All the other and it. So I think that again, Kobayashi
and Maru, I'm not I'm going to walk in and pull my kid out of
that or I'm not going to send my kid to school that day.
And then we'll see when they come to the house and and say,
well, we're going to take your kid and and we'll see who who
rallies behind that. Change the scenario.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, look, I'm not sending my kid to school.
And if you say that he can't pass to the next grade, well, I
guess you're going to have a glut of third graders because,
you know, we might represent 10% or 15 or 20% of the the voters
or the the conservatives in this area who get swamped in the
election. But we're not an insignificant
number of people. And how are you going to handle
3rd grade next year when you have 20% of the kids being held
back and the next year the additional 20%.
So now you're now your capacity and you're you're been
overwhelmed by that. So we'll just use civil
disobedience or I'm sure that they'll they would they would
send Child Protective Services to the house and say you're
contributing to delinquency of a minor because you're failing to
educate them. Now we have an armed standoff
because you're not coming into my my home to take my child away
because I don't want them to be indoctrinated by your gay
agenda. It is a gay agenda.
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doing it right. Let's let's bring up another
topic here that I think I want to continue onward.
I don't want to. Spend too much time but it is
all these things are going to get to a single point and I love
that you guys are are adopting the Kobe, Ash and Maru sort of
scenario because there is something really interesting
about when you are facing a lose lose scenario and we are in a
lose lose in so many ways right now.
All the options lead to either violence or destabilization.
None of them get to an outcome that's favorable and probably
not preferable even for the Lib types.
So if that's the case we have to change the rules of the
scenario. That's why I like, you know,
that's why we love Captain Kirk. The American way is it's not
winnable. Let's see about that.
Oh, there's too many people on the Nazi side.
There's too many people that were fighting in Japan.
These are unwinnable wars. How about we create a new
technology that no one's ever seen before and go drop it on a
couple of cities and end lives in a way that is so shocking
that nobody can play the game anymore.
They change the scenario. It's a it's an American tactic
in many ways. At least the way the America was
going to talk to me, Yeah, we didn't stand out in front of the
Redcoats and just toe to toe because we knew we couldn't win
that fight. Despite the fact that we're
dealing with, you know it at the American Revolution, the
strongest and greatest military that had ever been seen by the
world at that point. And they were defeated by a
bunch of people who just had strong ideas and new tactics.
So the tactics are the things I'm talking about here.
This is another piece from daily Single Signal.
Rather, this is from Mary Margot Olahan, who is a wonderful lady
who writes a bunch of pieces about Catholic.
Interest. But I think this is just a
general conservative interest right now.
It says How many imprisoned men who identify as transgender are
guilty of sexual assault? More than half, New data shows.
So you guys will be shocked to learn this as some as men who
have thrown cuffs on both in the local and Federal Way, that guys
who don't want to go to real prison choose to identify as
women, especially predators. And then they end up being
housed in women's prisons, where they can victimize other
prisoners. Is there anything more
disgusting than creating a captive victim population?
I'll go to Garrett first on this one too.
No, absolutely not. I mean this again is is part of
this anti God agenda that we are seeing that it's taken a
foothold in our country. Everything has been flipped on
its head, even this. What are prisons for there to
house the worst people in our society who commit the most
atrocious crimes? I know that isn't always the
case. You know, we that's a different
rabbit hole to go down overall. Generally speaking, that's what
prisons are for. Even in the prison now, we are
turning people who used to victimize normal citizens of
society. We're now turning them into
victims because of this myth that there are 72 different
genders or however many they're up to these days.
And that, oh, a man who's in a in a in a male prison.
He now claims that he's a woman and we must.
Because it's the right thing to do.
We must transfer him to the woman's prison because he claims
he's a woman. And then, oh lo and behold, big
shock. Once they go to the woman's
prison, they start raping people.
Is anybody surprised by this? I mean, I just, oh man, it this
stuff that is so clear to anyone.
Like you don't even have to be a Christian.
You just have to have simple what used to be Western
morality. And you can see that the path
we're on. Is one that leads only to
destruction. I'll tell you this we seem to
have attacked attract some of Dan Bongino's Mcgroins.
So welcome to any of the Mcgroins that join us.
I see Knuckles Mcgroyne in there our live chat has gotten kind of
well before you get a chance on the Steve I want to read the
actual facts they said of the 161 biological men who are
housed in the Wisconsin Department of Corrections.
So this is your world Garrett. This is this is down the road
from you who have self reported as transgender.
So there's 161 biological males now claiming to be transgender,
81, which is 50.3% have reportedly been convicted of at
least one count of sexual assault or sexual abuse as of
late July. These prisoners may have been
convicted of additional offenses, and on top of that,
they're not sexual offenses. But at least 50.3% of these
people were sexual assault, sexual abuse and shockingly,
those people, these these sex predators are the ones.
That are identifying as transgender 50%.
Any thoughts on that one, Steve? Yeah, I want to see how many
were charged with sexual assault after becoming incarcerated.
That would be an interesting stat to look at.
But I don't think you'll find that that will, that won't be
put out to the media here. I mean, I look, when you commit
a crime and you're convicted and sentenced in our society, you're
you don't lose all your rights, you, you lose your freedom, but
you still retain some rights. And one of those is a protection
against cruel and unusual punishment.
And I think that the females in those prisons who are now being
housed and forced a room with male predators, I have a pretty
strong case to say that their rights are being violated.
And and for our counterparts on the the left wing side of the
political spectrum who are always arguing for basically
emptying the prisons and arguing for prisoners rights and voters
rights restored and gun rights, well, not guns.
They don't like guns. They don't like guns.
I was going to say all the rights except guns.
You can vote, but you can't on guns.
Guns and but but they are standing idly by because they've
chosen a new victim that they think is better.
And that is the person that says I'm a boy who is now going to
say that I'm a girl. It's pretty straightforward and
the 8th Amendment right, that's that's our.
Our prohibition against cruel and unusual.
I just pulled it up just for for for my own memory and
refreshing. Excessive bail should not be
required. $200,000 seems like a lot of money for President Trump
coming in for a nonviolent anything with no actual
convictions of anything, but no excessive fines impose nor cruel
and unusual punishment inflicted.
What is more unusual and cruel than locking in a bunch of women
with male sexual predators and? Somebody mentioned in the chat
too, like what are the pregnancy rates that are going on in
there? Isn't it amazing to imagine an
increase in pregnancy rates in female inmates who are only
exposed to other female inmates? Yeah, it's like, it's like
Jurassic Park, right? That's right.
Nature. Nature finds a way.
I guess so. The nature finds a way because
men will lie about it. Yeah, I mean, I mean 8th
Amendment consideration type of the January 6th people.
We're just going to house them in the gulag and to keep issuing
superseding indictments, to keep them behind bars for years on
end and never let them actually have their day in court.
God forbid. Let's do this one too because
all these are going to actually, they're all going to link up to
one small thing. You guys are going to be amused
and Garrett this will be a shock to you when we get it.
But I sent Steve the article. This is another article that
we're looking at here today. This is coming from Daily Wire
and it's actual This is Maui Fire Survivor say the
authorities blocked only paved roads out of Lahana as the town
burned. Survivors of the fire that swept
through said the only paved Rd. Out was barricaded by
authorities as the flames overcame the town.
And the only way that people were able to escape was
essentially they were disobeying the direct orders of the law
enforcement that was involved in that.
So this is one of those instances of somebody who is
doing their job, I'm sure, and I'll let Steve go first on this
one, but these are people that were following orders, I have to
imagine, and they were blocking the exit route.
You can see just the devastation.
Anybody who hasn't been paying attention to this, it's not very
difficult for you to go out there and find an awful lot of
really, really awful. Footage and just see the
destruction and most of them show burned out husks of cars
that are sitting on a roadway. So here we have a local police
we're shutting down the only the only paved Rd. in the easy
access to getting out of there. Yeah, I I think you have to.
It's it's easy to assign malice here when obviously it's
government and those incompetences should always be
your primary directive when when you're assigning blame.
I think to me it's a tendency to not to not act to freeze and
that and that fight or flight or freeze, people freeze when it
comes time to make decisions in government because they are
worried about accountability. It's you're not going to be
held. Nobody ever gets fired for doing
nothing. So your better option for.
Your career longevity is to I'm going to e-mail my supervisor
and find out what they want me to do.
That way I can always pass the buck and there's a record of me
asking my supervisor and therefore I will evade all
responsibility here and I I just I'm reminded of the Chernobyl
with that word. It was like completely we're
we're going to cut off these people here and and we're going
to try to avoid accountability. We're going to shift blame.
We're going to say, Oh well we had this nuclear meltdown but
what about Three Mile Island over in America.
It's really America's fault and and I'm waiting on on that sort
of play out and I guess we'll probably get that from the the
so climate change or the global warming people will say
something like that and they won't talk about the fact that
they had water available to stop it or alert system and they said
no we're not going to use that because we have to be sensitive
and and not use water to combat fire.
Right, because that would offend the water gods and or it would
be doing something when nothing was easier.
Gary, you want to talk a little bit about when you're in the
military and sort of the rulings, the teachings that they
they put in through basic training about unlawful orders
and what those look like? In the wake of what happened in
Vietnam and some other places, obviously war crimes are all
over the place. Right.
Yeah, it's. You are taught on one hand to
obey orders no matter what. That's the point of your
military in Doc. But part of that, and it's a
very important part, is that when you receive an immoral or
unlawful order, you cannot follow it.
So people might think, well, wait, militaries, you know,
they're just, you know, lockstep, just obeying orders.
Yeah, by and large that's true. But in the American military,
there's that one exception to following those orders when they
are illegal and immoral. And in this case, you know, I I
think of 1/2 a dozen different situations just from the US
military. You had the the Me Lai massacre
in Vietnam. You had the black hearts in Iraq
or kill squad in Afghanistan. I mean, there's countless ones
that we can point to where it's bad leaders and then.
People doing what people do, just simply following orders
because it's the path of least resistance.
And this article, these government officials blocking
the road, incompetence. I don't care what it is.
It's evil. It's wrong and it it it made me
think. While you're reading that, it
said the only people who escaped and survived were the people who
didn't follow the lawful order. Essentially because if the
government is blocking the road, you accept in our society that
that's a lawful order. And it makes it makes me think
of Romans 13, one of the most abused passages of Scripture
over the past few years. And I think it's only going to
continue to be. But part of it says, for rulers
are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad.
Would you have No Fear of the one who is in authority?
Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval.
For he is God's servant for your good.
But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword
in vain. Okay, when you are the
government and your your primary job is to preserve life and
liberty. And you're blocking the road.
You have flipped your God ordained purpose on its head.
You are no longer being a servant for for good.
You are being a servant for evil.
And when that happens, I mean, I don't know what you do because
the government is standing there blocking the road.
So you burn to death like. This is.
That's something that you'd really have to accept, Steve.
Maybe reflect on that in light of what happened at Uvalde,
because that's what immediately occurred to me when I read this
article. Yeah, I mean, I well, I would
look back to that. And even the conversations I had
after that with people within the FBI where they were saying
that, well, no, the police acted correctly there and should have
stood by in the hallway idly as this guy just executed child
after child after child when they listened and put Purell on
their hands while they sat there and played on their cell phones.
Yeah. You just have to recognize what
your duties and responsibilities are.
And that's not following orders to to come down from on high
from whoever. It's recognizing what the
situation is. And and I've said since the
beginning, since you've all day happened and there was, you
know, obviously the the evil of that, the person that went in
there and killed those kids. That aside, the worst person in
that scenario was the officer that went over there was one of
the officers that his wife was a teacher.
Right. And they took his gun away.
I said The officer who took his gun away is the worst person on
earth. How do you go up to that guy and
not say I I got your back. Let's go now.
It's roll time. Yes it's It's time to.
You got to get a gunfight today, but today is your day and and
and. Both of you guys have my 100%
support. If there's a moment where that
happens, where it's like it's two of us, there's 10 people and
they have your family hostage, we're going and I'll and I'll
leave this as a thought because. My my buddy who is my my
neighbor in Virginia who is a hyper masculine former MMA
fighter, just like a power lifter, freakish.
He's my size and he lives like 6 times what I do and I and I
always really appreciated his take on it, he said.
If you are saving up your life to die for some reason, what in
the world are you saving it for other than to go into a hail of
bullets, to go save children? Is there anything that you could
do better with your life than that?
To lay down your life for people who will never know you.
For children who haven't had a chance to live yet.
I mean, that's literally why people join the military and why
people jump on grenades and why people go into doors, you know,
That is the mindset. It's like we're going in to save
life. The people who, the heroic guys
who were on the hostage rescue team, we had to cut.
You know, it may be a small example of it, but there was a
guy that jumped in through the bunker in Alabama and just threw
his body down on a kid and basically said, you know I'm
going to take fire and someone's going to have to come do it.
And I think he ended up almost severing a hand and or a thumb
going through razor wire and all this kind of stuff.
This is the kind of heroism we expect of law enforcement and
there are small examples of it. So they are not without examples
in this country, and yet if you're not willing to throw your
body into the breach to stop. Something like children, or if
you're not willing to tell your commander or whoever your your
authority is that your supervisor in a law enforcement
entity, hey, you know what? I'm not going to lock down this
road. There's a freaking fire coming
through and these people need to get out.
In fact, I'm going to run down the line and get people moving
more quickly, like clear the roads that way because I'm
sending everybody in. They're getting out of this.
That's the only value. It's a recognition of value.
You're you're basically saying that my job is more valuable
than those lives, but my job to take this guy's gun away is more
valuable than his ability and my ability to go in there and try
to save his wife and save those children.
That's right. And we talked about this
yesterday with Jacob. Honestly, I mean, if you think
about it, this was actually some of the topics that was brought
up. It's like if you say that people
who will do small things wrong and and he talked about how an
agent lied to him when he said, listen, I don't care whether
you're going to arrest me or not.
Just tell me so I can say bye to my mom and, you know, make sure
my dog is going to be fed. And then he sits down and they
said no, no, no, we're not going to arrest you.
The first thing to do is read him his rights.
The dishonesty that takes place in that very, very small space.
And we've all been in that scenario where you've had
somebody surrender in and you have the choice.
You could be honest with them or not.
And there may be reasons why you're not going to be honest
with somebody. But if somebody's already
agreeing to it, like So what if? So what if Jacob Chansley
decided to go for a run and escape like the US Marshals
would run him down. That's what they do.
And and I've always felt like it was no big deal.
It's like if you want to run, you're going to run.
I'm not going to stop you and you're going to run anyway.
So why would I try to con you into here as a ruse?
I'd rather just tell you honestly, because then we have
an an easy expectation. And in the case of this, we have
people doing things in small matters and they can't be
trusted in the great matters, which is yet another biblical
passage, I'm sure that is resounding in your head right
over there. You know the service who can't
be trusted in small matters cannot be trusted in great
matters. And law enforcement is
systematically sort of eliminating their ability to be
trusted in things like this. This probably was a decent human
being. I'm sure that this will haunt
this guy forever. I mean it.
It better. It ought to.
Because how? How can you look yourself in the
mirror after that and say, can you honestly look yourself in
the mirror and and proudly say I was doing my duty?
No, I mean. And if you are, you're lying to
yourself, I mean. That's the only way you justify
it. But it's not righteous.
It's. Not right.
Absolutely not. I.
Don't want to dwell on this too long because we're going to get
somewhere with this and I'm going to, I'm going to get you
guys there. So here we go.
This is a an interesting article that came from
realclearreligion.org. I just said attacks on
institutions. Catholic institutions should
concern all of us. So those of you who are not
Catholic and you see that I I preach a lot about going to
check out Catholic Vote. It's because Catholic Votes
priorities are a representation of the larger Christian
apparatus in America. And So what they're showing
here, there's a 42 year old man who broke into Our Lady of the
Rosary Catholic Church in Manhattan.
Vandalize a large crucifix. I'm sure it was.
Very, very valuable when it comes to material worth.
But also the symbolic attack on there is not nothing.
It's the third attack against a Catholic Church site in New York
alone since June that's relevant.
And there's also nationwide examples that are within the
last couple days, including in El Paso, which is a very
Catholic area, as many of you may know, because it's full of
people who came in from Mexico and has a lot of cross-border
sympathies, which is a very Catholic area.
There's something really wrong about this is what he says, This
guy says I'm Jewish, I'm not Catholic.
This is really the key for me. But I'm raising my my voice now
on behalf of those under attack, as I did years ago.
If you were willing to tolerate attacks on any faith, then
there's a very strong possibility that they will be
coming for you at some point. And the fact that this is not
going on right now is going to pivot me.
I don't want to dig deeply into this.
We're going to talk real quickly about someone from the FBI and
this is going to get somewhere in just a second.
So bear with us folks. We're we're going to sew this
all up. This is a quick little article
from the jacksonville.com. This is the Jacksonville News
Source. The Florida Times Union over
there. See, This is your stomping
grounds And it was a discussion about the color of law,
understanding the FBI's role in excessive use of force
investigations. And it was featuring a guest
named Carlton Peoples. Why do we know the name Carlton
Peoples? Carlton Peoples, currently the
Special Agent in Charge of the Birmingham Field Office of the
FBI, was formerly the Acting Deputy Assistant Director of the
Criminal Investigative Division of the FBI.
He is the one who issued the guidance to label parents at
school were meetings with the threat tag of Edu threats.
Did you see, did you say the Criminal Division or WE or the
Counterterrorism Division I? Thought it was criminal, He was
at counterterrorism. He was CTD.
And so Carlton Peoples was the was the assistant director over
there. Interestingly enough for folks
that means he was the guy that generated the Edu officials
threat which is means he was the one who directed the FBI agents
to do investigations into parents at school boards.
Here he is right there. You see him on the screen.
This is a Birmingham Times where he is now currently posted.
You said this was a strong puffy.
Do you want to talk about highlights from it?
And I'll kind of scroll through it for him.
Yeah, he just kind of goes into his background of of getting
into the FBI and coming from him, you know, as a as a black
man in America and then the communities there that have this
tremendous distrust for for law enforcement and that complicates
things. But I I kind of was able to make
it through the whole article without vomiting and got to the
end. And I always look for the
timeline for these careerists, and he's just no different than
anybody else. Six years investigative.
Six years investigative experience and immediately
elevated up the chain of command.
So you have somebody now who's ascended into the upper echelons
of senior executive service, who has the bare minimum experience
as an FBI agent, but he's going to be supervising and and
leading effectively large swaths of of special agents in the FBI.
Let me read this real quick too. This is by Ryan Michaels, so
we'll give him credit, says this is Carlton People's direct
quote. He says the FBI was probably
perceived by my parents and my grandparents more as an enemy
than as a friend. But of course, today it's
something different. It's about helping people.
It's about giving back. I think you can ask anybody in
law enforcement, you don't do it to get rich.
For the most part, I think those in law enforcement are about
giving back to the community, helping people and wanting to be
a part of something positive. I wish you could get more of a
puppies. Do you want to know something
funny about Carlton people's that I I did not know when I
exposed that document? Go for it.
I had no idea he was a black diversity hire who had the
limited amount of I I never even occurred to me to even think
about what the guy was. And yet he spent his time in the
Civil Rights Division. I always find it really
interesting that they always put the civil like they put black
guys in charge of the Civil Rights division as though
somebody else couldn't do it. You know, I will tell you,
there's very few people who would be more offended by abuse
of the police doing investigations under color of
law, which is to say representing authorities.
They don't have then guys like you and me, right?
Yeah, the suspendables are like, despise this sort of thing.
And yet it's always a black guy that's in charge.
But I don't know what did they despise it more?
Are they better investigators? I don't know.
But it's always interesting because every single person I've
seen in charge as special agents in charge that ran these civil
rights divisions, they're always black guys.
And I and I just don't know why that is the case.
You know, it's what's funny about that is early on, like
even in the hiring process for the FBI1 of the main driving
factors for me. Was to work public corruption
cases primarily into violations of color of law.
And I'm a white guy, you know. And it's like that that
shouldn't matter at all. You know, you know my my last
line shirt with the blue line flag.
I know. I'm sure a lot of people who
might see that might think you know, Oh yeah back to blue.
Yeah, I do. I do.
Back to blue. When they do the the job the
correct way. When they uphold their
constitutional oath the correct way.
When they use their authority to violate law under the color of
that law, that is one of the most atrocious things when it
comes to to being a quote UN quote public servant.
So it shouldn't matter what color you are.
But yeah, you're absolutely right.
And it's, it's kind of like a a form.
I was almost going to say reverse racism, but that's
that's a misnomer. It's straight up racist against
racism. Yeah, it's racist against white
people. It's racist against everybody,
even the black people, because. Oh, well, he's black, so let's
put him in charge of the Civil Rights division, like.
And then a lot of these people like Carlton peoples, they just
March along with it because why not?
Why not? I mean, I'm just, I'm just
climbing the ladder and I'm going to use the, the
pigmentation of my skin, which I had no control over.
God just created me as as this type of person.
I'm going to use that to to just keep climbing on up.
I mean, it just is. It's just disgusting.
If he's, if he's not concerned with getting rich.
And his driving force in his career is civil rights.
I want to know, did he turn down his Senior Executive Service
bonus when they hit their IPM quota metrics on domestic
terrorism because he opened up a certain number of J6 cases?
More importantly, did he decide that he was going to step down
to be a case agent and do investigations since he
obviously missed out on some of that opportunities?
I mean, you figure that that guy has the same amount of
investigating experience as any one of us, maybe less than some
of you guys who had local police time.
But certainly it's the same amount that I had, like I would
have been qualified to go on and do management apparently based
on their their time. I spent my six years in the
field office as well and and to me that would be appalling.
If that was the only experience I had to go out there and and
try to lead the organization, I would have been embarrassed for
myself because there's no way that makes any sense.
Let's keep moving on talking. We're going to continue to bad
mouth and we're we're we're getting towards the end here.
But let's let's bad mouth a little further.
What happened in Richmond? This is a article coming from
the Washington Examiner. Many of you may not have known
this happened yesterday. The FBI Richmond official who
oversaw the memo tarting Catholics out of the the
Richmond field office was testifying for the Congress.
This is an article by Ashley Oliver.
I'm just going to read some of it for you here.
The FBI official responsible for overseeing the controversial
document that this yours truly exposed with the help of a
whistleblower inside the FBI appeared before the House
Judiciary Committee on Thursday to testify about the matter.
Stanley. I don't know who this is.
Stanley Meador. I don't know Stanley actually
special agent in charge of Richmond field office.
So this is the sack that's over there.
Spoke to the committee for several hours behind closed
doors, just the way that you guys have, and according to two
sources familiar with the interview.
So somebody's leaking this already.
I'm sure it'll be 100% defense of everything.
We did the right thing in the right way.
I can't imagine they did anything else, says the the
document, which was issued internally within the FB I's
Richmond field office in January and leaked to the media.
I wonder if they actually credit us here.
What do you think? Do they credit us?
Let's click. Doubtful it is John Levy.
Does it have any? Are we going to
credituncoverdc.com and the Kyle Serafin work here?
What do you think? I'm scrolling through it just to
see. No, no, I won't hold my breath.
Look at that hair, man. It's just so perfect.
I just want to shave his head. No, no, Kyle Seraphin credited
there. That's okay.
The work was done. It wasn't about credit.
It was about getting it out there.
Anyhow, this guy was named in the letter that the FBI wrote to
the committee on the 28th saying he was one of the officials
involved. Also included the person who
retracted it, and he met with Catholic leaders in the area.
You guys have any sense about what goes on when you get an
Intel product like that approved and how it works?
That would have gone up through a significant number of chains
of people, including a supervising intelligence analyst
like our friend George Hill probably would have seen the
desk of A at least an ASAC assistant Special agent in
charge. That would be pushed over into
ODNI. Which is another problem that I
see here where Christopher Ray still insists that it was
scrubbed from the the servers of the FBI.
Well, what about ODNI? It's it's still there, so.
We're. Yeah.
The other question is this, can you actually, if this was a
violation of First Amendment rights and therefore a violation
under color of law, are they allowed to scrub evidence from
what was going on inside the FBI system when they said that they
were getting rid of it? I was always like, oh, really?
You're getting rid of the thing that showed that you've done
something wrong, because it's wrong.
Is that obstruction of official proceeding?
Is somebody going to get a Sarbanes-Oxley violation there?
Are we going to see the Intel analysts held to account for the
things that they are putting out into the world?
It's just it's an interesting question and what that leads to
is our final here. This is the wrap up folks and
this is something I found very interesting.
This is from a website that I've never seen before called
thecatholicthing.org written by Randall Smith and the entire
article is on the formal and material cooperation with evil.
I'm going to read a little bit of it because I think it's
really interesting discussion. He basically leads off by saying
he had a discussion with somebody and this is where it
came out. There's a classic case much
discussed and must have much disagreed upon that involves A
servant who was told to carry a ladder to a house which his
master intends to use to climb up a window so we can commit
adultery with a mistress of the house.
So the scenario is servant has to carry ladder.
Ladder is going to be used to facilitate abortion.
This is is this material support is this formal support And so
on. So the question is everybody
agreed at least in in the past that adultery was a sin and it
was evil it was something we shouldn't do.
So the question to the degree of culpability of the servants,
cooperation with evil, that's the question that we are trying
to do is it formal, is it material?
And disagreements are always rife with a bunch of people as
they consider the actual details which are going to be discussed
here and I'm going to kind of throw it out to you guys.
So did the the servant know what is master intended?
I want you to put yourself not in the question of the person
carrying a ladder to go do adultery.
But let's think about the police officer who says I'm not going
to let my friend go in and save his wife.
Or the police officer says you can't drive through this road
because I'm told that you can't come out even though there's a
fire coming. Did the servant know what his
master intended to do? Did he know and concur with the
plan? Did he know but he was
resistant? Was he resistant and trying to
convince the master otherwise? Was he resistant but said
nothing? Did he know his master's plan?
Did he not know it? But should he have known it,
especially as they approached the house, or in this case, as
they approached a road where there was fire burning?
Should he have questioned at that point whether his master
intended some evil? Was his ignorance culpable or
nonculpable? Could we say that his intention
was simply to aid the master and avoid punishment, and not to
help the man commit adultery, or in this case facilitate the
burning alive of people in their cars?
And the question is, should he have been able to perceive the
result even if he didn't intend it, in which case, would he be
innocent of guilt or would he still be guilty of it?
There's all of these sort of questions in this.
This article is fascinating. I think you guys should give it
some time. You can actually find it.
It's just called On formal and material cooperation with evil
from thecatholicthing.org. Let's let's talk about this in
sort of a more formal way. Garrett, I'd be really curious
about your thoughts on formal versus material support of Evil.
Yeah, it's. It's really an interesting
topic. When you texted me this morning,
I was like. I don't think I've ever heard of
that. So I briefly looked into it as
much as I could and it's a it's a it's a very interesting rabbit
hole to go down. And in the case of this servant
or in the greater realm of a government servant or or really
just anybody for that matter, if you know the intentions.
I I think the answer is clear and and and you're basically
falling back on to the superior orders of defense which.
We know is it's a failed moral foothold that that you're going
to take if you're going to do that if your orders for people.
That's the I'm just following orders, even if the orders
really were illegal. Right now, if you don't know the
intent of your master, now it's time to use your brain and rely
on your training, your your experience and say is this order
that they're giving me. Could it potentially lead to
actually being a violation of my morals, of my position, of the
law and I I think most, most people that I have worked with
in government, but whether it be military, police or FB, I I
would say the vast majority of them are smart enough and have
lived enough of a life to know what the potential outcome might
be. And then to start, get those
wheels turning and think, am I actually going to violate my
oath by following this order and?
I don't know. Maybe people like us because
we're so few in number, actually contemplate and think about
these things more than others. I used to think that that was
normal, that everybody thought that way, but apparently,
apparently that's not the case. Yeah, I'm gonna give Steve a
chance to respond to that as well.
Thoughts on that? I gave you a chance to read the
article beforehand. Yeah, yeah, I mean I just did.
I had two experiences that I think we're kind of relevant to
that. One was the Whitmer case where I
didn't know that we were kind of coming in with these guys who've
been interact until after the fact.
So as much as I feel bad for what happened there, I don't.
I don't think that I'm personally accountable for what
I did there because I was just ignorant to to that information.
But I did take from that a lesson that I needed to.
Will make myself more aware of things going forward when that
came to pass. So you know I don't I don't feel
necessarily that the remorse from that standpoint but you
know take that to the to the January 6th objections that I
had and I said look I I once shame on on you twice shame on
me. I think that I'm contributing
here and and they they tried to minimize and they said look
you're only driving the subject to the magistrate that's all
you're doing. It's just you're you're an Uber,
you're transport, and yes, you're still part of the overall
operation. Correct, correct.
I mean, you can get into the weeds and get, you know, the IM
pencil. You know, do you blame the guy
who is out of working in a plant that manufacturers rubber that
is then put into a tire that's put on the cart?
You know, there's way too much interaction in a global economy
to to blame everybody for everything.
So I think if you can draw a direct correlation Direct Line,
it's you have to take a stand on that.
The idea that you would learn from your experience and you had
eight years of local law enforcement, is that correct
before going into the FBI or is it the?
Other way 5 local and 99FBI. So you figure that even in that
time, 15 years in or 14 plus years in as you're going
through, you're still learning these things not to.
We'll have a little bit of moment of levity because you
said, you know, fool me. Once it brought up the famous
George W Bush quote for me. I had to go look it up to get it
right, he said. You know, it's in Texas,
probably in Tennessee too. They say fool me once, shame on
shame on you. Fool me, Well, you can't get
fooled again. In Artful.
In artful. That's right.
But yeah you you should not be fooled again once you've seen
it. You you had an opportunity to
see something. You looked at it and you said
the thing that was presented to me is not the same thing that I
experienced. There was a fundamental
disconnect between the orders given and the operation that was
conducted. And when that happens it is my
responsibility as an agent to look into myself as an agent of
the government of any level, state, local, federal.
This is on incumbent upon all people military as well.
You may be ordered to do something that you do and don't
have full awareness. And that's the culpability of if
the man shows up to the house and doesn't understand what it
is and he puts the ladder up and then he realizes as he goes back
up that as the guy comes back down that he's been committing
adultery. The next time that the master
orders him to move that ladder, he's now complicit in it because
he has an awareness in an understanding.
So he has no excuse to not know what is happening.
And I have to believe there's a possibility that the guy
standing at that road had never considered the possibility that
he was shutting down the way out.
I I imagine it'll hot him for the rest of his life.
But the other possibility is, is that this is not the first time
someone has asked him to do something that was either
illegal, immoral or unethical without his awareness.
And his questioning should have been much higher.
And that's what we really need to expect.
They always tell you that it's not the problem with law
enforcement per se, it's the people that's always ended.
It's no policy or procedure that will save us.
The Durham report said the same. It's people that has to adhere
to their oath and they have to actually have the moral
character to do the job that they're requested to do.
And I think it's really a big deal.
Either of you guys have closing thoughts on that?
Yeah, I think, I think it's a huge deal.
I mean, and and two, like, don't get me wrong, like the thing I'm
most concerned about rectifying is my own character flaws, my
own sin nature. I'm not saying I do it perfect
every time, but you damn well need to do your best and build
off, you know, every experience we have in life should be a
building block. And so I think that's why by the
time I started whistleblowing. It was so abundantly clear that
some of the things that were going off the rails where it was
like, I can't, I can't willfully continue because this is evil,
this is wrong, and therefore it's causing me to sin.
And maybe in the past I was the guy putting the ladder up and I
didn't know. But in the future, I did know
because it's incumbent on us and I think especially in law
enforcement or even other sectors of government, to know.
We must because we are supposed to be, like I said earlier,
Romans 13, we were supposed to be servants of God for your
good, for the people's good. And if we stand in the way of
that, then then the whole thing is flipped on its head.
And and that then we're we're not.
If we're not servants of God for good, who are we serving?
True Steve. Final thoughts on that and we'll
we'll read out here. Yeah I just I think you just
have to be the people in law enforcement have to be the type
of person that really realizes the ramifications of what you do
on a daytoday basis. And you might be saving a baby
from a snake or you might be chasing a bad guy down a flight
of stairs somewhere. But no matter what you do you
have impact on people that is long it's way outlives your your
career and and. Because of that fact, you always
have to take that into account. I still think that people who I
either arrested or didn't arrest and then the impact of that had
and that that sort of mentality should be the norm in law
enforcement and it shouldn't just be just followers and go do
what I tell you to do. Totally true.
The thing that I I mentioned, I was had Alpha in my show with
him last night. And one of the things it's like
the the day that interactions happen with law enforcement is
everyday interactions for people who do law enforcement.
And it is probably some of the most consequential experiences
and memories for the people that are not in it.
That that moment that you interact, that that choice that
you make. Like you said, it has very
longreaching implications for them, even if it's just your
daytoday operations. And and taking that
responsibility seriously is something I know you guys did
something I always felt like, like you're representing a much
bigger force that you will never know how it will play out that
where though you know you never know what that kindness or that
sternness may may do when it echoes down into history for
that person as they instruct their children, as they go
forward and tell that story somewhere else as somebody else
decides to be fair or unfair with law enforcement in front of
them because of their previous experience with you.
So really important, really impactful stuff and
unfortunately maybe not thought about nearly as much.
But if you're in law enforcement, if you're in the
military, if you have those positions of government
authority, really need to reflect on where you're at right
now, gents. Give them your handles, let them
know where they can follow you, and we will wrap this show up.
And I really do appreciate both of you guys jumping in with me.
At Real Steve Friend on Twitter. At real under score, Steve
Friend on Truth Social and I got a conference call.
All right, jump on. Thanks Steve Garrett.
At Gob. Actual anywhere?
Pretty much Truth. Twitter.
Instagram. Yeah, yeah.
Thanks for jumping on this morning.
I'm glad that your hair is dried.
Looks like your shirt is dried too, buddy.
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