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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower and 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth because this
program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Seraphin. 
Hello, my friends, Welcome to 

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the Kyle Seraphin show. 
I'm exhausted today. 

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I don't know about you guys, but
I am absolutely indictment 

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fatigued. 
It is draining me. 

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It is emotionally and 
spiritually exhausting to 

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consider that our Department of 
Justice, the weaponized federal 

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government that we have, 
continues to go after the former

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president. 
And we are now on round two of 

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federal indictments. 
We have round one in the tank on

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the state indictments. 
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going to throw their hat into 
the ring for contender of 

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lousiest states doing stupid 
legal action. 

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So we're going to cover that. 
Obviously everybody's talking 

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about Trump being indicted. 
I have some takes on it. 

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I spent about 5 hours last night
sitting in a Twitter space 

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listening to lawyers who are 
described as constitutional 

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lawyers. 
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what is a constitutional lawyer?
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second to people who actually 
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litigate based on the 
Constitution. 

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It is a different sort of law 
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criminal and civil. 
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We'll talk about what their 
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And I think they're I think 
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I do have some special guests 
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reflection panel. 
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different takes on what we've 
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And we're going to get into a 
couple other news stories that I

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think are indicative of where 
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And President Trump is really 
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the coal mine in some ways. 
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public as well. 
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Gentlemen, welcome to the Kyle 
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Wednesday. 
We've got lots of problems, 

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Kyle, lots of problems. 
You got problems with that mic 

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Gosh, all right. 
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So folks, we're going to start 
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pieces here. 
Can we throw up topic number one

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right there, Ryan? 
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thing by topics. 
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and I could do it. 
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As they say, an indictment is 
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that you're indicting. 
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sandwich. 
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So there's the President Trump 
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Give me, give me topic #2 
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got. 
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out there. 
If you like those, they're in my

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Twitter feed, folks. 
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things around. 
We are indicting the Trump ham 

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sandwich and we brought up a, 
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downloaded. 
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that we'll go through. 
But George, have you read that 

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indictment? 
I did. 

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I did. 
I'm in the middle of a 2000 page

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tone nonfiction work by Carol 
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deep dive into some fiction work
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It was very entertaining. 
That's a fairway of assessing 

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it, right? 
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we'll see the way that CNN 
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CNN, of course, breathlessly, 
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saying, you know, this is going 
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for years. 
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more and more levels of the 
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10 years, 20 years. 
This is another indictment. 

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This is pile on time and they 
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and all those. 
Can you show the picture to the 

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next one up there? 
The the Rotunda picture topic 

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four I think was listed. 
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photograph of it is. 
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photograph and I'll have George 
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Look in the foreground of this 
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So if you're not seeing this is 
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on January 6th. 
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images from that day. 
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couple of police in riot gear 
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maybe one to two people who are 
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while the cops are also reaching
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You've been overseas. 
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There it is. 
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us today. 
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We lost George. 
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God knows what happened to him. 
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you're looking at a a bunch of 
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capital as tourists and one or 
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cops because they're being 
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Garrett, did you see that 
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I didn't, I was trying to fix my
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Still pull it back off. 
This cannot be made-up. 

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End of the day, that's what 
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Let's get into the indictment 
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He is. 
He's back on us. 

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But no it if you want it to look
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If you just look at the 
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a melee. 
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background, the back portion of 
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peaceful gathering. 
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description of the whole J6 
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We always talked about this 
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I see both. 
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the ducks kissing or whatever it
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They put a, you know, blaba ink 
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it's supposed to show you 
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So the indictment itself is kind
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First of all, we've got the the 
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Co conspirators. 
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there, Ryan, we'll get into that
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we're trying to talk about here.
So I'm just going to read right 

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off the screen. 
If you guys don't mind, if 

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you're what you're missing here 
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This is chopped right out of 
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conspirators were also included 
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I think this is the breathless 
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Four of those six are unnamed 
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Trump in his efforts to subvert 
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Now, these are allegations. 
These are allegations being made

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in an indictment of which there 
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be presented and that is being 
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prosecutor. 
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again acting like this is the 
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focus on the language and focus 
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They, they, the piece that 
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There are the knowingly false 
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the election was subverted 
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So on indicted Co conspiracy, 
we're going to talk about why 

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it's important that there are 
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Do you guys have a sense of 
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Do you have do either of you 
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Because I'm going to give you a 
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I don't know my my sense is only
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society that the more attorneys 
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Or at least that's the 
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And I imagine there are just 
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He's probably got a 
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you mentioned earlier, and then 
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attorney and probably some civil
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So I mean, that's just my I 
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why, but I guess I don't really 
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Have you have you ever had to 
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cite attorney-client privilege 
when you want information from 

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them? 
Yeah, I have. 

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Recently in our society, that's 
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preservation. 
It's a it's a curtain that drops

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between the attorneys that are 
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and the government, which is 
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right. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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Are you guys familiar with the 
crime fraud exception in the 

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attorney-client privilege? 
Loosely, yeah, because if the if

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the attorney is in on the gig, 
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privilege evaporates and the 
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I see we're going, yeah. 
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attorney-client privilege. 
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does not cover statements made 
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the client must have been in the
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planning to commit a crime. 
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look at these, these four 
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Yes, for me it does. 
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No, 100%. 
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have a slightly different take 
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constitutional attorney, but I 
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read a lot of college papers and
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mouth production owned by Jack 
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It reads almost like, look, 
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narrative part and I'll fill in 
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people would recognize. 
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attorneys, but by Jack Smith and
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It's very, very heavy on the 
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I'm going to splash up there, 
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6, we can actually see the the 
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And what we're looking at here, 
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on the Rumble channel is the 
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defendant and it lists grand 
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Let me switch cameras real quick
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So what it says here is that we 
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That is a conspiracy to defraud 
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Count 218 USC 11512K, that's 
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official proceeding. 
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they keep using. 
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It's going to be a subsection 
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obstruction of an attempt to 
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And the last 1 is really a 
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fiction. 18 USC 241, conspiracy 
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counts in just a second, 'cause 
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world informed with what it is 
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president of and why it is sort 
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Ryan, do you actually have the 
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Jack Smith? 
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we can look at the the smile 
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Yeah, let's look at the smile 
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man's mouth. 
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announcing this indictment 
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in Washington, DC, if you'll 
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Good evening. 
Today, an indictment was 

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unsealed charging Donald J Trump
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United States, conspiring to 
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conspiring and attempting to 
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the District of Columbia, and it
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detail. 
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Here comes editorial. 
The attack on our nation's 

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capital on January 6th, 2021 was
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seat of American democracy. 
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indictment. 
It was fueled by lies, lies by 

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the defendant. 
Targeted. 

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At obstructing A bedrock 
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the nation's process of 
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certifying the results of the 
presidential election. 

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The men and women of law 
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Capitol on January 6th are 
heroes. 

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They are patriots, and they are 
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They did not just defend a 
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sheltering in it. 
They put their lives in the line

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to defend who we are as a 
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They defended the very 
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define the United States. 
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the Department of Justice has 
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accountability for those 
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happened that day. 
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with that commitment, and our 
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individuals continues in this 
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My office will seek a speedy 
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be tested in court and judged by
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In the meantime, I must 
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only an allegation and that the 
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innocent until proven guilty 
beyond a reasonable doubt in a 

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court of law. 
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members of the Federal Bureau of
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this investigation with my 
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career prosecutors and law 
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the country who have worked on 
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investigations. 
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servants of the very highest 
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work alongside them. 
Thank you. 

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So that was charming. 
Did you guys notice that caveat 

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at the end, that sort of classic
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We don't. 
And we're going to investigate 

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people for their First Amendment
protected activities, but we 

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never investigate people for 
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activities. 
Remember, these are allegations,

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but the defendant lied and he's 
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attack democracy. 
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I've never seen AUS attorney 
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briefing like Jack Smith did. 
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step, well, not most, 99% of 
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a microphone, their briefings 
are as dry as the Saharan 

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desert. 
I mean, you, you know, you can't

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get the grit out of your eyes 
for weeks. 

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I mean, that was more like a big
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Production. 
Yeah, it's a show. 

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it's kind of like the old adage 
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for ugly people. 
Jack Smith fits that category. 

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And there he is up there doing 
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letting us know exactly how he 
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You want to go again? 
Yeah, for your audience, Big 

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Mouth Productions is owned by 
Jack Smith's wife, so they've 

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made she did the 2020 puff piece
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Netflix. 
So this is just another chapter 

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in the whole January 6th saga. 
This reads no differently than 

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the preface and the opening 
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put out on January 7th. 
This is just a continuation of 

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the same theme. 
This 45 page indictment looks 

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like it was written by the the 
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Times or the Washington Post. 
It's it's certainly full of a 

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lot of that and kind of 
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we had on referred to January 
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messaging victory of all time, 
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and they are continuing that 
vein is what it feels like. 

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Garrett, did you have something 
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No, we lost Garrett. 
We're losing Garrett left and 

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right. 
There he is. 

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Hey, buddy. 
Hey, I don't know, I don't know 

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how long this is going to last, 
but did you, were you asking to 

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weigh in on the the Jack 
Smith's? 

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Please. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, OK. 
It's almost like, where do you 

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start? 
You know, like it's crazy to, 

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you know, I'm only 37. 
So in my short life, it's it's 

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crazy to have seen our country 
flip like this, where it 

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literally is like watching any 
Banana Republic, you want a name

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and watching one of their 
attorneys or generals or whoever

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politicians up there talking 
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And that's the exact vibe that 
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And I think with these litanies 
of indictments, that just 

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continues to be the case. 
And I'm hoping it will backfire 

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because I'm hoping people will 
start to realize and wake up and

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see. 
And I know many have in the last

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couple years. 
But if people are watching these

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type of things outside of the 
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insulated there where they know 
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that area are Democrats. 
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rest of the country, but it's 
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So hopefully that hubris his his
smirking and smiling. 

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It reminded me of Mayorkas last 
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Victoria Sparks from Indiana, 
She called him out on on the 

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smile. 
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don't think they're often even 
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they're displaying for everybody
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So that that's what's what's 
shown through the most for me 

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was just that hubris. 
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it's it's all a done deal and 
they have rigged the game, no 

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doubt about it. 
But I think people are starting 

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to wake up. 
So I think that hubris, you 

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know, that that the fall from 
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So I think Jack Smith and all 
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swamp, hopefully, you know, 
they'll have another comeuppance

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either come the next election or
at some point when the when the 

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rest of America starts waking 
up. 

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But yeah, that hubris is really 
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me the most. 
It, it's so interesting that you

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mentioned the, the sort of the 
echo chamber that exists inside 

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the Beltway when you work inside
DC and, and you can imagine him 

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going and giving that, that 
trial speech at a Starbucks in 

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Washington, DC and getting a 
standing ovation, right? 

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You can actually imagine that 
everybody around him. 

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And so when you live in a world 
where everyone around you 100% 

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believes, backs, and supports 
the positions that you hold, no 

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matter how radical they are, 
you're living in a strange 

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fantasy world. 
Because, as you mentioned. 

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If you go and do that thing in 
Kansas City, you go do that 

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thing out in Wichita, KS, you go
do that in Nebraska, you go do 

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that in Idaho, you do that in 
Montana or anywhere else, you go

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do in Texas. 
America, in most places, you're 

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going to either get a mixed 
reaction or a negative reaction 

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because not everybody thinks the
same way. 

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And when you pile on these sort 
of indictments that continue to 

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go on it, it is that Banana 
Republic feel. 

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It's like, man, how badly are 
you scared of this person? 

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And I do think you're correct 
that more people are looking at 

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it. 
People that were otherwise 

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uninterested, that were sitting 
on the sidelines are going, you 

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know what? 
I don't necessarily love 

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President Trump. 
He's not the guy that I'm going 

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to try to go in and take a 
bullet for. 

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But anybody can see when there's
a job, a put up job that's being

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done. 
And we are so desperate to tell 

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you how bad he is, man, maybe 
he's got something good going 

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on. 
And so in light of this 

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indictment, we're going to cover
it even a little bit further in 

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a second here. 
But one of the things I want you

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to guys consider, we had a raid 
on Mira Lago after a disastrous 

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withdraw from Afghanistan. 
And it felt like a cover that 

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they had to turn the lens on to 
something else. 

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We saw the Alvin Bragg thing 
come up and the indictment 

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happened just after we had the 
revelations of the FB is 

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10/10/23 document about this 
corruption scheme. 

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The fact that there were FBI 
sources that were reporting on 

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the Biden's corruption. 
And now we have this, and it 

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comes in the wake of the Devon 
Archer testimony. 

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Now, I read the highlights of 
the Devin Archer testimony, as 

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I'm sure you guys did, and I was
underwhelmed by it. 

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It didn't say anything that was 
particularly new or interesting.

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But when you get this, following
that by one day, in some ways, I

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would say they actually threw a 
spotlight on the day prior to 

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those of us who are paying 
attention. 

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Do you guys feel that there 
might have been more to that 

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Devin Archer testimony based on 
the radical reaction of indicted

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Trump for a second time on a 
federal level? 

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Either one? 
I don't think that I think you 

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might be giving them a little 
bit too much credit. 

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I think they just continue to 
roll on. 

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And when I say that you're 
giving them too much credit, I'd

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like to support that with if 
this actually does go to trial 

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and it's very unlikely that that
judge will throw it out. 

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If this does go to trial, then 
we get to go into discovery. 

456
00:22:12,640 --> 00:22:17,360
And then Donald Trump will have 
the opportunity, actually the 

457
00:22:17,360 --> 00:22:23,400
legal right to introduce all the
bases, plural, for his claims 

458
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,800
about, you know, electioneering,
election rigging, and that the 

459
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:30,880
election was stolen. 
So I'm just mystified as to why 

460
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,560
the Democrats would want to 
throw that door open for 

461
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,080
discovery. 
I don't, I don't get it. 

462
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,040
And so, yeah, the premise there 
is if they're going to claim 

463
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,280
that all the things that he said
were lies. 

464
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:43,640
And in fact, if you when we read
the indictment a little further,

465
00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,000
let's go ahead and pull up count
#1 if you would. 

466
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:48,600
That's topic #7 Ryan, if you 
pull up account number one, 

467
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:49,920
we'll kind of read what that 
says. 

468
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,840
And it's full. 
And I'm going to switch over 

469
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:54,320
here again. 
So let me take a look here and 

470
00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:55,680
read it with you. 
It says the allegations 

471
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:57,880
contained in paragraph one 
through 4 of this indictment 

472
00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:01,520
realledge and fully incorporate 
by the reference the conspiracy 

473
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,680
that from on or about November 
14th of 2020 through January 

474
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,880
20th of 2021 in the District of 
Columbia and elsewhere. 

475
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:12,320
The defendant who's Donald A 
Trump did knowingly combine, 

476
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520
conspire, confederate and agree 
with Co conspirators both known 

477
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,400
and unknown to the grand jury to
defraud the United States using 

478
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:20,680
here we go. 
Here's the actual claims, 

479
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,800
dishonesty, fraud and deceit to 
impair, obstruct and defeat the 

480
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,520
lawful federal government 
function by which the results of

481
00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,280
the President election are 
collected, counted and certified

482
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,000
by the federal government. 
So that's the real thing. 

483
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,160
And then they claim that the 
purpose of the conspiracy, this 

484
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,240
is another sub little paragraph,
this paragraph 7, the purpose of

485
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,880
the conspiracy was to overturn 
the legitimate results of the 

486
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,720
2020 presidential election. 
Here's where they they get to 

487
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,760
the knowingly part, using 
knowingly false claims of 

488
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,640
election fraud to obstruct the 
federal government function by 

489
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,200
which those results are 
collected, counted and 

490
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,240
certified. 
So there is a Mens Rea, which 

491
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,480
we'll talk about just like 
briefly. 

492
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,400
But essentially you have to know
that what you were doing is both

493
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,520
wrong and a crime. 
They used the word knowingly 

494
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,440
very specifically. 
And as George was just stating, 

495
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,280
I think I'm going to paraphrase 
this and you tell me if I I'm 

496
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,200
saying it correctly, he had, 
he's going to get a chance to 

497
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,760
say I didn't know that those 
were false claims. 

498
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:15,080
In fact, I believe they were 
real. 

499
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,440
And here's the evidence that I 
was looking at that told me that

500
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,280
these were legitimate problems 
with the election. 

501
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,240
Yeah, absolutely. 
I, I, I don't get it. 

502
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:27,280
I, I, I just the Democrats. 
I'm, I'm not a fan, but they're 

503
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:30,800
not stupid. 
So I'm trying to figure out 

504
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:32,800
what's the next move on the 
chess board here. 

505
00:24:34,120 --> 00:24:35,960
I don't I don't know either. 
I mean, all this stuff seems 

506
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:38,440
absurd because this was 
discussed in the in the the 

507
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,440
space last night over a 5 hour 
period. 

508
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,400
It opens up the door for 
litigation of these things that 

509
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,720
were all thrown out in courts 
because the the lawsuits were 

510
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,840
not properly filed. 
But the evidence was pretty 

511
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,600
interesting and they certainly 
are credible enough for people 

512
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:52,200
to look at them. 
And many of you saw it with your

513
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,240
own eyes. 
You saw, you know, either 

514
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,640
ballast being pulled out from 
underneath like videos that need

515
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,320
explanation and that a 
reasonable person. 

516
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,200
And I think Trump would be an 
example of a non litigious 

517
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,600
person. 
He's not a lawyer, he's not an 

518
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,880
investigator, he's a 
businessman. 

519
00:25:04,120 --> 00:25:05,920
And he's looking at things that 
look really weird. 

520
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,160
And we all saw them and we 
thought they looked pretty weird

521
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,840
at the time. 
I mean, I there were a lot of 

522
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:11,840
FBI agents that were asking 
these same questions. 

523
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:13,840
Jared, did you have people 
asking those questions in your 

524
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,480
office at that time? 
Yeah, we, I mean it, it was 

525
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,640
almost daily, I would say the 
majority of our squad 'cause, 

526
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,440
you know, we, you walk in the 
office and the news is rolling 

527
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,320
and, you know, at that time it 
was all election, election 

528
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,880
interference. 
Donald Trump is denying, you 

529
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:35,120
know, the, that the election 
results and, and even simple 

530
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:38,920
stuff like, you know, people in 
the office saying like, man, did

531
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,680
Joe Biden actually get 81 
million votes? 

532
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,960
I mean, more than anybody ever. 
In his. 

533
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:49,840
Barack Obama, Yeah. 
And and I think anyone who man, 

534
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,800
you didn't even have to be 
paying that much attention, but 

535
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,960
just just on the fringe, you 
could have been paying attention

536
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:59,280
and seeing Joe Biden's, you 
know, I'll use my finger quotes 

537
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,000
his campaign, you know, where 
he's hiding in his basement. 

538
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:07,240
Like, I think a lot of people 
who have a reasonable brain, I 

539
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:10,280
mean, think about it, you walk 
into an FBI building, your squad

540
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:14,080
is filled with FBI agents and 
task force officers. 

541
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Those are reasonable people. 
Their whole job is exactly, 

542
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,840
exactly. 
That's their entire career is to

543
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,080
be skeptical, to ask questions 
and to raise legitimate 

544
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:27,040
concerns. 
I mean, in my experience, by and

545
00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:30,000
large, law enforcement officers 
and those involved in that work 

546
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,280
were some of the most reasonable
people I've ever known. 

547
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:36,560
And so when they are unprompted 
saying, man, did he really get 

548
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,560
81 million votes? 
A lot of this seems really 

549
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,240
fishy. 
You know, he's bringing up some 

550
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,120
some valid points, some valid 
concerns. 

551
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,400
That's not just, you know, the Q
Anon shaman or, or some of these

552
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,520
other people who may appear to 
be more fringe or whatever. 

553
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,840
Like, yes, on both sides are 
going to have those. 

554
00:26:54,120 --> 00:26:56,600
But then also it's like, let's 
go back through history. 

555
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,160
Al Gore was denying the election
results. 

556
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,960
Hillary Clinton was denying the 
election results in 2016. 

557
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,120
Like right there. 
There's a whole history of this.

558
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,200
Well, moreover, and I think you 
touched on it, first of all, 

559
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,160
we're talking about skeptics. 
So that's something that we see 

560
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,520
a lot of times in the, in the 
investigative sphere, in the law

561
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:15,840
enforcement and intelligence 
community. 

562
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,880
That's that's how people 
operate. 

563
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,760
It's like, tell me something, I 
want to try to disprove it. 

564
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Very scientific method type of 
thing. 

565
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,840
But you mentioned these cases 
last night in this this space 

566
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,920
and the the gentleman who was 
speaking was a guy named Leo 

567
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,680
d'onofrio, who seemed incredibly
well versed in these particular 

568
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:31,320
cases and the cases that he was 
mentioning. 

569
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:35,120
You mentioned Bush V. 
Gore, which was obviously one of

570
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:37,440
the things he mentioned a couple
of different Supreme Court cases

571
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,080
that I'm going to mention to you
right now that may be in play 

572
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,200
with this particular indictment.
The first one goes back to 1892.

573
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280
It's McPherson versus Blacker, 
and it was a decision coming 

574
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,920
about the laws passed in 
Michigan. 

575
00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:52,840
These all have to do with the 
powers of the state legislature 

576
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:56,120
in order to determine who the 
proper electors are. 

577
00:27:56,120 --> 00:27:58,600
You'll remember this was a big 
deal in 2020, whether or not 

578
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,200
they were these false slates of 
electors or what they would call

579
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,840
faithless electors. 
So the false slates is that what

580
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,120
there are two slates of electors
that are being put forward by 

581
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,040
the state and the state hasn't 
properly certified which one it 

582
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,480
is. 
So that was a big issue. 

583
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,320
The second one is faithless 
electors, which is to say that 

584
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,520
people would go forward, they 
would be told by the legislature

585
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,240
of their state that they had to 
vote for Bush, Gore, Clinton, 

586
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,080
you know, etcetera, Trump. 
And when they went out there, 

587
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:26,280
they actually voted against 
that. 

588
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,200
They quote UN quote, voted their
conscience or something, or they

589
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,600
voted for a third party and they
were not holding in faith. 

590
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,040
They were faithless to their 
task. 

591
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,480
And so that's another sort of 
level of the stuff that was 

592
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:39,320
being adjudicated. 
And by the way, Ryan's telling 

593
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,640
me we got almost 800 people 
sitting in that live chat right 

594
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:42,800
now. 
So if you are there and you're 

595
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,640
not hitting the like button, go 
ahead and scrolled on down and 

596
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,160
hit that thumbs up. 
If you're sticking with us, we 

597
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,040
do appreciate that every time 
you do it. 

598
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,080
The last case here we talked 
about Bush V. 

599
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:54,440
Gore is the one that's called 
Buffalo versus Washington. 

600
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,320
And this was actually 
adjudicated and decided in 2020,

601
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,600
another Supreme Court state case
about the faithless electors. 

602
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,440
And I'm just going to read a 
little snippet of it from you. 

603
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,720
The court ruled unanimously by a
verdict of eight to zero. 

604
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,400
There was 1 abstaining 
obviously, that the states have 

605
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,880
the ability to enforce the 
electors pledge in presidential 

606
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,360
electors. 
In other words, to be a 

607
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200
faithless elector, to show up 
and not vote as you are 

608
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:21,280
instructed by the state 
legislature is actually a 

609
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,120
problem. 
And they can be fined and they 

610
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,000
hold personal liability for 
doing such a thing. 

611
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,280
They are required and bound to 
do the duty that the state 

612
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,600
legislature puts out there. 
That's part number one. 

613
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,120
The part number 2 that I think 
is really relevant. 

614
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:34,720
And I think this is actually 
going to go to the heart of the 

615
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,640
matter. 
And gentlemen, you guys remember

616
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,880
the hanging Chads controversy 
and the Bush V Gore piece. 

617
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,280
And the thing that was so wild, 
that was decided there is 

618
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,640
essentially they went and they 
had a decision about Article 2 

619
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,000
and the Article 2 powers that 
sort of existed saying that the 

620
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:56,440
state legislature has the power 
to select in the manner they 

621
00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:58,720
choose. 
The an appointing the electors 

622
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:03,240
is a plenary power, OK. 
The plenary power says that if 

623
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,400
they choose to do so, they can 
select the electors and they can

624
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,600
send them forward. 
They don't actually have to ask 

625
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,320
the the voting base. 
They can, they can change the 

626
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,960
laws, which are state laws, and 
they have the exclusive 

627
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,520
authority to do so. 
Then they can send electors the 

628
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,600
way they want off to Washington 
to vote in the Electoral 

629
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,560
College. 
Now, a layman's version of this,

630
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,240
and I want you guys to kind of 
digest this piece. 

631
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:30,600
The argument being made last 
night was that since the the 

632
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:34,560
United States has a majority of 
states holding Republicans in 

633
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,120
state legislature, they could 
literally vote and say that for 

634
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:43,280
this election cycle coming up, 
the one in 2024, all the states 

635
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,520
are now going to be not using 
the popular vote of the of the 

636
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,520
state and not going to go to the
people. 

637
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,800
They are simply going to vote 
right now that they are going to

638
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,880
send on a a Republican slate of 
electors for whoever the 

639
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Republican nominee is in the 
primary. 

640
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,720
And that would be 100% 
constitutional and legal based 

641
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,480
on what is said right now. 
It's a power that could be 

642
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,280
exercised. 
And that was the argument being 

643
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:08,440
made by D'onofrio. 
I found it pretty fascinating. 

644
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,520
It would probably cause an 
incredible uproar if we actually

645
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,760
didn't care about what was going
on in the general election. 

646
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,080
It would be a seizure of power. 
In many ways, this would be 

647
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,800
considered like a legal coup. 
And yet every single four years 

648
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,000
we do have a coup in this 
country. 

649
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,800
We just vote for it. 
That's just the way that it 

650
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,520
works. 
Interestingly enough, this this 

651
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,880
power seems to hold based on the
Supreme Court cases that he's 

652
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,880
citing. 
And if the and the reason why we

653
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,600
can say that is this that 
happened for the 1st 100 years 

654
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,600
of this nation and it still is. 
The way that it could work is 

655
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,520
the way that senators were also 
set out there. 

656
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,000
There's been a constitutional 
amendment saying that the 

657
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,800
senators are now elected by the 
people of the state, but that 

658
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,400
didn't used to be the case. 
In fact, for the 1st 100 years 

659
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:50,360
or so, we were actually voting 
for your state representatives 

660
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,840
and the state representatives 
were out there putting people 

661
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,840
into office with or without the 
permission of the of the the 

662
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,440
voting bodies as a whole. 
Didn't matter what the other 

663
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,520
people in the state voted 
because once you have the state 

664
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,040
legislature, you hold that 
power. 

665
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,200
What do you think about that 
kind of idea? 

666
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,400
How would people receive that? 
I don't think they'd receive it 

667
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:10,200
real well. 
It it reminds me of my early 

668
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:15,120
days as a cop in Waukesha. 
So we used to talk about 

669
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,320
desirability and justification. 
Yep. 

670
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,120
And you got to balance that. 
Is it desirable? 

671
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,000
Is it justified? 
So it sounds like it's legal to 

672
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:27,000
do inside the confines of our 
Article 2 in the Constitution, 

673
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:28,920
but how desirable is something 
like that? 

674
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,760
Probably not very. 
I think we might see, you know 

675
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,040
it. 
I'm seeing images of the summer 

676
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:40,600
of 2020 in my head again. 
And we, you would see that I, I 

677
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:44,480
think on either side if, if, if 
something like that was to go 

678
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,920
down again. 
But it is an interesting point 

679
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,320
to bring up the 1st 100 years to
where our quote UN quote elected

680
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,160
officials were basically just 
doing whatever they wanted with 

681
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,040
disregard for what the people 
wanted. 

682
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:59,200
So, well, it's important. 
Today, but it's it's 

683
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,960
representative. 
It's representative. 

684
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,200
It's a Republic system. 
We are not a democracy, right? 

685
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,040
What we do is we direct elect 
things like the state 

686
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,080
legislature and those 
legislators have the ability to 

687
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:12,240
vote on our behalf. 
They are then the representative

688
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560
from that state. 
And the idea was, is that as far

689
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,920
when you got further and further
away from power, especially the 

690
00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:19,680
way it was originally designed, 
the further away from power or 

691
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,360
from the people you got, the 
more you had a representative 

692
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,600
representing you because of the 
distance and because of the, the

693
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,480
technical logistics that 
happened at that time. 

694
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:31,400
That's one of the arguments 
against the, the Electoral 

695
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,080
College is that it was a, it was
a logistical concern at that 

696
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,000
point that everybody could not 
cast a ballot and have them 

697
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:41,680
easily counted for presidency 
in, you know, 1789. 

698
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,360
That wasn't a real easy thing 
for anyone to go do. 

699
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,960
And yet today we could do it 
digitally. 

700
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,160
It'd be done, you know, in 90 or
100 days or whatever it is that 

701
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,480
it takes now to count these 
things with machines, even 

702
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,280
though it used to get done 
overnight when I was a kid. 

703
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,160
It's a similar population. 
Yeah, with the machine, it 

704
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,600
should, it should literally be 
like, you know, as soon as the 

705
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,520
ballot is cast. 
Yeah, you would think. 

706
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,240
But George, give us 90 days. 
You got to weigh in there. 

707
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Yeah, So obviously I'm not a 
lawyer, but I have been focusing

708
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
on the narrative. 
I've written about it and 

709
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:16,159
uncovered DC. 
The narrative that has been 

710
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:18,960
being laid down since Woodrow 
Wilson is that we live in a 

711
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,960
democracy. 
Lyndon Johnson did away with 

712
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,880
civics classes. 
So most of the country thinks 

713
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,880
that we live in a democracy. 
So should states decide to do 

714
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:37,120
what you raised, Kyle, people 
are going to be via, you know, 

715
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,400
riotous because they think that 
somehow that we live in a 

716
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,000
country that doesn't. 
Exist. 

717
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,760
And there's no excuse for being 
ignorant. 

718
00:34:48,199 --> 00:34:52,360
But that is the line that's been
laid down for over 100 years, 

719
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:58,080
that we live in a democracy, a 
direct democracy, and that 

720
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,360
somehow the Republicans, you 
know, Donald Trump tried. 

721
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,480
But now the Republicans have 
finally done it and they've 

722
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,960
stolen away our democracy. 
This is the the phraseology 

723
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,560
that's being put out there time 
after time again, attack on our 

724
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,320
democracy, attack on our 
democracy. 

725
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:16,320
And most people believe it. 
They believe that we live in a 

726
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:17,680
democracy. 
All right. 

727
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,800
Now I've given you that that 
crazy instance that the the 

728
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:23,640
state legislatures basically 
usurp the popular vote and 

729
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,760
decide to do the thing that they
believe that they were elected 

730
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:27,560
to do. 
That's a possibility that's 

731
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,400
apparently has constitutional 
basis. 

732
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,680
I'm not bringing it up because 
I'm advocating for that position

733
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:33,600
necessarily, although that 
actually was being advocated 

734
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,360
last night on Twitter. 
What I am bringing it up for is 

735
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,720
the following reason, because 
that is a constitutional 

736
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,360
authority that exists within the
legislatures and they have the 

737
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,840
ability to do so. 
Donald Trump going to any 

738
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,760
legislature or any member of 
state delegations and saying go 

739
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,640
find me votes. 
Go do what I need you to do is a

740
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,800
political exercise and not a 
criminal exercise under any 

741
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,840
circumstances. 
It's a political thing that is 

742
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,880
allowed to be done even if 
distasteful in America. 

743
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,600
And therefore no matter what, 
even if they were to accept this

744
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,840
was the argument being made last
night. 

745
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,240
If every single charge made in 
the indictment, they say we 

746
00:36:11,240 --> 00:36:14,320
accept that all these things are
in fact factually true. 

747
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:17,880
That he was either lying that he
was no knowingly and willingly 

748
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,440
saying something, but he still 
wanted to stay in power and he 

749
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:24,360
was asking state legislatures to
exercise the the power that they

750
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,960
have that plenary authority to 
appoint legislatures and to 

751
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,440
appoint electors rather then 
there cannot be a crime because 

752
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,280
what he did fell within the 
Constitution. 

753
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,200
And the actual quote that I took
out of there was this. 

754
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,360
There is no crime if you tell 
members of your political party 

755
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,360
to exercise their political 
authority. 

756
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,680
If that is the case. 
This was the motion to throw out

757
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,800
the entirety of the indictment 
that was being suggested by 

758
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,320
d'onofrio last night. 
And it struck a real chord with 

759
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:54,120
me because what often times I 
feel like we're doing this thing

760
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,680
where we're trying to debate the
merits of an indictment. 

761
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,120
Oh, is there a possibility of 
this? 

762
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:00,440
Does this make sense? 
This is the classic game. 

763
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,920
I'm going to go ahead and have 
Ryan bring up topic #15 if you 

764
00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:05,440
would, my friend. 
I'm going to read you guys a 

765
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,960
couple of things. 
Some of you are familiar with 

766
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,880
Saul Alinsky, and we talk about 
it. 

767
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,520
If you listen to Dan Bongino, 
you've heard about it. 

768
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:12,680
This is one of those playbooks. 
Go ahead and pop that up on the 

769
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,280
screen. 
If you could, my friend #15 is 

770
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,920
the rules for Radicals. 
And there are 10 of them, and 

771
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,760
I'm going to read you just a 
select few if you do not mind. 

772
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,880
Gentlemen, I'll have you guys 
reflect on these #1 power is not

773
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,680
only what you have, but what the
enemy thinks you have. 

774
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,440
And that is the the reason why 
you would have this sort of 

775
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:38,040
false set of, of allegations, 
why you would go after and put 

776
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,800
something up that is spurious 
and doesn't have any 

777
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:43,520
constitutional basis to argue 
against. 

778
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,280
Because the enemy thinks that 
you have the ability. 

779
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:46,720
So they're arguing against the 
indictment. 

780
00:37:46,720 --> 00:37:48,760
They should be trying to destroy
the entirety of the fact that it

781
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,600
exists in the 1st place rule #4 
you guys can Scroll down through

782
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
these on your own. 
Make the enemy live up to its 

783
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,960
own playbook. 
People on the political right 

784
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,280
find themselves more often than 
not on the side of law and 

785
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,520
order. 
They believe that there are 

786
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,080
rules and that people should 
play by them. 

787
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,040
And so by making them live up to
it, they are facing the 

788
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160
indictment on its merits, 
assuming that people operate in 

789
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,440
good faith when that is in fact,
not the case. 

790
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,040
That is not the way that people 
are necessarily operating when 

791
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,240
they are putting these 
indictments forward. 

792
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,600
I think that's worth noting #8 
keep the pressure on. 

793
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,640
I think we can definitely say 
that that's what's going on 

794
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:22,600
today, because this is 
indictment #3 of four most 

795
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,880
likely dropping on President 
Trump as he is doing this. 

796
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:28,000
And the last 1 #10 which I think
is also there. 

797
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:31,880
The major premise for tactics is
the development of operations 

798
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,160
that will maintain constant 
pressure on the opposition. 

799
00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:38,360
There is constant pressure being
put on Donald Trump and his 

800
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,360
campaign right now to deal with 
indictments and they cannot 

801
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,720
focus on the things like putting
out great policy or whatever 

802
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:45,520
other things they're trying to 
do in order to speak to the 

803
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,160
American people, gentlemen, in 
light of those 4 rules. 

804
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:51,240
And they'll and then the idea 
that there may not even be a 

805
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,520
crime in going to your, your 
constituents or your political 

806
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,720
party members in other States 
and ask them to do something. 

807
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,840
What do you think about this 
indictment knowing those things?

808
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:05,960
I mean, you know, Saul Alinsky's
rule rules for radicals has been

809
00:39:06,240 --> 00:39:09,320
big for me because it literally 
is their playbook and has been 

810
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,400
for decades. 
You know, I, I picture a guy 

811
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,280
like Jack Smith either having 
himself, he audio recorded 

812
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,400
himself reading those and he 
listens to them on the way to 

813
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:23,080
the office every day because, 
because it, it, it is their 

814
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,280
playbook. 
He, he's Saul Alinsky is 

815
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,960
essentially a God on the left. 
And but that being said, those 

816
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,240
rule, those rules exist for a 
reason. 

817
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:34,320
And they're good rules. 
If they're going to follow those

818
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,960
rules, which they are, they're, 
they're being smart and they're,

819
00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:39,320
they're playing the game 
correctly. 

820
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:43,120
Because like you mentioned on 
the right, conservatives 

821
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,120
typically want to follow the 
rules. 

822
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,440
Well, on the left, they're 
changing the rules. 

823
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,720
They're doing sleight of hand. 
And, you know, for instance, an 

824
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,880
indictment, another indictment 
on on Donald Trump. 

825
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,080
OK. 
Most people think the word 

826
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:00,160
indictment means like, oh, that 
guy's guilty, he's going to 

827
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,880
prison. 
But often times indictments just

828
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,000
get canned because they're not 
good. 

829
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,640
There's not merits there, but 
they're keeping the pressure up.

830
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:09,200
Again, back to the to the 
playbook. 

831
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,680
And that that last one that you 
mentioned it, it was, it was it 

832
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
was really standing out to me 
because it it it really brings 

833
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,360
it all home because it's like, 
OK, yeah, these guys have had 

834
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:23,520
this playbook. 
I think that book. 

835
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:27,720
Rules for Radicals was written 
in like the 70s and they've been

836
00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:29,840
instituting those rules ever 
since. 

837
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,240
And we're seeing it in real time
right now against Donald Trump, 

838
00:40:33,240 --> 00:40:35,200
probably like we've never seen 
ever before. 

839
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:37,320
George. 
Yeah. 

840
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,560
So as far as, you know, 
rebuffing the indictment line by

841
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,520
line, you know, you roll around 
in the mud with a pig, you get 

842
00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:48,440
dirty. 
I have spent no time. 

843
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
You know, I was in that Twitter 
space with you for a while. 

844
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080
It's like, who cares? 
That's not what this fight's 

845
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,320
about. 
This fight is about the 10th 

846
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,040
rule, which you said, which is 
being unrelenting. 

847
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,480
And then it goes back to Cloward
and Piven, which people are just

848
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:07,200
going to say just make it stop. 
If you got to take Orange Man 

849
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,520
out, fine. 
Just please God, make it stop. 

850
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,880
And and that's where they're 
going. 

851
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:19,040
This is a psychological 
operation rolling around in in 

852
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,480
the mud. 
Like I said, it's just going to 

853
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,600
get you dirty. 
Let's talk cloud. 

854
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Yeah, let's talk cloud and 
Piven. 

855
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,840
So the Cloud Piven strategy, 
something that's been out there 

856
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,240
since 1966 to Ivy League type 
professors that basically 

857
00:41:31,240 --> 00:41:33,560
released a strategy saying, and 
I'm going to say here, the 

858
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,840
ultimate objective of the 
strategy is to wipe out poverty 

859
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,640
by establishing A guaranteed 
annual income. 

860
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,520
That's what they're trying to 
do. 

861
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,560
They do so by essentially 
crushing the local system under 

862
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,320
the weight of its inacquities. 
They're going to crush local 

863
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,880
infrastructure in an effort to 
make things federalized. 

864
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,200
And so, as you said, please make
it stop. 

865
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:52,600
We're willing to accept 
anything. 

866
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,400
Even though the thing should be 
handled locally. 

867
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:55,800
We can't handle it. 
It's too big. 

868
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:57,160
We're going to go to a bigger 
authority. 

869
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,520
And the broader spectrum of that
is if you make people 

870
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,280
uncomfortable and squirm long 
enough, they will cry uncle and 

871
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,640
they will relent and allow the 
thing that they would otherwise 

872
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,760
never agree to. 
That's sort of, that's sort of 

873
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,600
the the piece, the Cloward pivot
strategy sort of extrapolated 

874
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,720
out to this idea, correct? 
100% correct. 

875
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,320
OK, I'm, I'm like, I don't want 
to put words in your mouth, but 

876
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,440
I did want to paraphrase that 
for people that have not seen 

877
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:20,640
it, because essentially it's an 
economic strategy to try to 

878
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,280
bring in the federal government 
at a local level. 

879
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,440
And yet this can be applied 
using that sort of overwhelm the

880
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:30,520
system that flood the flood the 
the lane situation to where 

881
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,520
people don't know how to deal 
with it and so they just give 

882
00:42:32,520 --> 00:42:34,160
up. 
Sure. 

883
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:38,520
And Donald Trump is a is a major
obstacle in the way of that. 

884
00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:41,760
They're criminalizing political 
speech. 

885
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,080
And what are we seeing in states
like Michigan where they're 

886
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:49,760
passing laws to if you misgender
someone that you can actually be

887
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,240
charged under state code. 
So this is all about policing 

888
00:42:53,240 --> 00:42:55,600
speech. 
This is and and people will just

889
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:59,800
get to the point of please just 
make it stop and they're willing

890
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:04,680
to accept anything. 
If you can't talk, there's not 

891
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,920
much left. 
That's it and that's why it is 

892
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:09,120
the first thing you're supposed 
to start with your speech. 

893
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,560
The second UPS obviously a last 
resort sort of situation. 

894
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,520
It may be your right to have it 
at all times, but the goal is 

895
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,240
not to use it. 
I want to queue up this video. 

896
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,000
Get you guys impression, 
Garrett, I know this was a video

897
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,280
that was near and dear to your 
heart. 

898
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,320
Now video #1 if you want to 
queue that thing up, Ryan, what 

899
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,240
we're looking at here is the way
that it was only a couple of 

900
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:28,680
years ago and then the way that 
it was in the last week. 

901
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,560
And Donald Trump sort of is a 
Canary in the coal mine for some

902
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,560
of these things. 
He is the the indication of the 

903
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:36,880
way that things are going to go 
for regular people as well. 

904
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:38,640
Like you look at a guy with 
wealth and power, he's a 

905
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,200
billionaire. 
He lives in a big mansion. 

906
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,360
He's got people and a staff and 
all the lawyers. 

907
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,000
What about the people that don't
have those sort of resources, 

908
00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,040
don't have that sort of 
capability, that don't have a 

909
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,760
microphone? 
They can stand up and get CNN 

910
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,200
and everybody else to go and, 
you know, listen and carry their

911
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,320
feed. 
So if we can queue up this video

912
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,840
#1 this is a street preacher in 
Tempe, AZ. 

913
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,840
You're going to get some of it. 
We'll, we'll cut up some of this

914
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,400
video and move it forward a 
little ways. 

915
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,160
Ryan, I think we're starting 
about a minute and 1/2 into 

916
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,440
there. 
There's some, some time stamps 

917
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,080
on there, if you would. 
Let's go ahead and roll that 

918
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:04,920
thing right now when you're 
ready. 

919
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,200
Well. 
I understand you can illegally 

920
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:09,680
amplify. 
Yeah, I'm. 

921
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:11,880
Talking about disturbing 
somebody's peace. 

922
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,080
Yeah, that's, that's been, yeah,
that's been ruled on. 

923
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,720
No, don't. 
Don't give me the law. 

924
00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:19,320
Just if I could get your name 
would be great. 

925
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,480
OK, I'm just asking why you need
my name. 

926
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,120
So are you? 
Are you arresting me or charging

927
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,160
me the crime? 
At this point. 

928
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,360
No. 
So then the state law of Arizona

929
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,320
says that you can't ask for my 
ID unless I'm being charged with

930
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,440
a crime. 
Woman, I am in the process of 

931
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,640
investigating your crime. 
Okay, what? 

932
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,680
You just ignored that. 
When you get arrested, I, you 

933
00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:42,200
know, I have to be able to do an
investigation. 

934
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:44,640
Sure, but the law just. 
Grab people and arrest. 

935
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,680
Them I appreciate the officer, 
but you're a law enforcement 

936
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,160
official and I'm showing you the
law. 

937
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,280
The law says that in order for 
you to say I'm disturbing the 

938
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,400
peace has to be more than a 
vague generality of your own 

939
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,120
opinion. 
You have to have a you have to 

940
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,560
have a calibrated meter that 
demonstrates I'm over 65 

941
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,240
decibels. 
Do you have a calibrated meter? 

942
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,480
Do I have to have a? 
You do, it's the city code 

943
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:07,240
that's. 
What it says? 

944
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Anything. 
So tell me who you are you don't

945
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,600
want. 
No, officer, I respect your 

946
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,160
position. 
I'm a pastor I respect. 

947
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,400
So he's showing him the law and 
if you look, if you're watching 

948
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,840
on the video, what you're seeing
is the cop is making eye contact

949
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,640
with the man and not the not the
piece of paper he's holding. 

950
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,320
This is obviously a non 
threatening situation. 

951
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,200
It's nonviolent. 
These are people that are openly

952
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,760
protesting abortion on the 
streets and they are doing so 

953
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,920
within the law. 
They actually looked up the 

954
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,200
code, they printed out the 
statutes, and they're saying 

955
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
that we're allowed to use 
amplified megaphones and so on 

956
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,320
as long as it's under 65 
decibels. 

957
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,360
And the only way that you could 
calibrate that it's over 65 

958
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:45,720
decibels is with a calibrated 
meter, which is a totally 

959
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,680
reasonable position to have. 
And then he doesn't want to give

960
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,040
the cop his name. 
He later on does say, I'm Pastor

961
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:51,480
Jeff and the guy's like, what's 
your last name? 

962
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,400
And he started and they fight 
over that a little bit. 

963
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,080
Garrett, you saw that, you 
brought that to my attention. 

964
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,240
I know I've seen it before. 
I've seen clips of that, but not

965
00:45:57,240 --> 00:45:58,560
the entire thing like I did last
night. 

966
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,320
What is that showing to you as 
someone who's been a local St. 

967
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,040
cop? 
To me, it's showing proper civil

968
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:09,360
disobedience because one that 
cop, he didn't even know that he

969
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,680
needed to have a calibrated 
meter. 

970
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,240
He said, do I need to have a 
calibrated meter? 

971
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:13,920
Because he, he didn't know the 
law. 

972
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,960
And you know what, honestly, 
that's fine because as a cop you

973
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,200
have state statutes and in 
Wisconsin, the the state statute

974
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,800
book is like probably like that 
thick. 

975
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,960
And then you have a Unicode book
and then you know it. 

976
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:30,520
It's impossible for you to know 
every single one inside and out.

977
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,520
But also, when he gets sent on 
that call, he could have pulled 

978
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,200
up the muni code book or pulled 
it out of his duty bag or pulled

979
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:40,120
it up on the website on his 
computer and checked, but he 

980
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,240
didn't know the law. 
I would say a street preacher, a

981
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,200
patrol cop, probably knows knows
violation laws. 

982
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,920
That's probably something to 
deal with pretty regularly. 

983
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,080
Yeah, it is. 
And I would say in my 

984
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:53,400
experience, amplified sound 
device, man, it was pretty rare.

985
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,360
And I don't even know what the 
code was as far as measuring it.

986
00:46:56,360 --> 00:47:00,440
I don't know if we had one in 
our city, but it was, it boiled 

987
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,000
down to like a reasonableness 
standard. 

988
00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:05,360
And in this instance, you know, 
the cops get called, so they 

989
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,520
show up. 
That's what they have to do. 

990
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:12,480
But then when you show up as the
officer, the one who's supposed 

991
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,840
to enforce the law or decide to 
not enforce the law because no 

992
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,040
law is being broken, then you 
need to make that play or that 

993
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,000
decision, you know, right there.
And instead of doing that, he 

994
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,960
gets sent to the call and says, 
OK, whoever called the police is

995
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,400
right. 
And we see that very often in 

996
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:31,240
law enforcement. 
It shouldn't be that way. 

997
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,000
And in this case, you know, Jeff
Durbin, the pastor, he, he was 

998
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,560
prepared for it. 
And you know, good on him for 

999
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,560
being prepared, but then bad on 
the officer for not even wanting

1000
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:43,160
to look at the law. 
And then I don't know if you're 

1001
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:44,960
going to play it, but it gets 
worse with the supervisor. 

1002
00:47:45,240 --> 00:47:46,440
Shows up, I'm going to have Ryan
play that. 

1003
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,640
Ryan, can you go to timestamp 
332? 

1004
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:50,400
And we'll just play that for a 
couple seconds and then we'll go

1005
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:53,160
to the the 538 stamp where we 
actually see the female officer 

1006
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,160
intervene. 
Oh yeah, give me a second. 

1007
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,840
I have it set up for 2:30. 
Give me one second 3332 332 yes,

1008
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,040
if you'll bring it up on that 
and then we'll we'll listen to 

1009
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,400
this. 
So this is just a little bit 

1010
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,960
further in this conversation. 
So this conversation is very 

1011
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:06,800
peaceful. 
There's people just milling 

1012
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,680
about and you can't see it. 
They're on a street corner. 

1013
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:10,400
You can probably hear the road 
noise in the back. 

1014
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:12,440
Just let me know when you're 
ready to bring that thing up. 

1015
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,840
You can cut it off it. 
All right, Rock. 

1016
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,560
The problem is, and I know 
you're a law enforcement 

1017
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,280
officer, you took an oath to the
Constitution. 

1018
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:19,840
We have freedom of speech 
rights. 

1019
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,320
And somebody saying you're 
disturbing my peace because I 

1020
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:26,520
don't like your message or I can
hear it isn't a valid reason to 

1021
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:29,640
undo the Constitution of the 
United States that says I have 

1022
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,440
freedom of speech. the US 
Supreme Court has ruled on this.

1023
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,360
Somebody can't say I'm 
disrupting the peace because 

1024
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,440
they don't like my message, 
because I'm amplifying, 

1025
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,960
amplifying my voice. 
The law which you and I both are

1026
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,040
committed to states that I'm in 
a lawful activity right now. 

1027
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:52,160
Well, that was a. 
Shroud. 

1028
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,200
And I appreciate you. 
No, I know and I appreciate your

1029
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:57,680
position. 
I have no disrespect for you, 

1030
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,640
but when it comes to law and law
enforcement, 30. 8 Whenever 

1031
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,000
you're ready. 
So he shrugs. 

1032
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960
He just goes like, yeah, you 
just told me I have an oath to 

1033
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,320
the Constitution. 
George, you're a regular guy. 

1034
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,840
Your oath to the Constitution 
has existed for decades at this 

1035
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,200
point now. 
But you were not law 

1036
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,040
enforcement. 
I mean, could you be more polite

1037
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:18,560
with this guy? 
You're looking from the outside.

1038
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,600
Does that seem like a thing that
you'd be upset about hearing? 

1039
00:49:21,320 --> 00:49:27,520
He the the pastor is exemplary. 
If you if you need an example of

1040
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:31,920
a behavior to follow, bring up 
that video and and follow his 

1041
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:33,840
example. 
Do you think he's as calm as a 

1042
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:38,000
Marine would be? 
Oh God, no, no, I, I, I I'm not 

1043
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,000
capable of that level of 
self-discipline. 

1044
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,040
All right, so it, it gets worse 
in this video and, and folks, we

1045
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,320
can put the link if you really 
want to see it. 

1046
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,560
But if you go to that 538 
timestamp, Ryan, when you tell 

1047
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:47,680
me you're ready, we'll roll 
that. 

1048
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,920
And this is where it gets really
ugly. 

1049
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,120
I think this is where we are 
getting towards. 

1050
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,280
And then we'll show the second 
video from this week. 

1051
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:55,640
Again, this is a couple years 
old that we're seeing right now.

1052
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,760
So this goes back a couple years
in Tempe, AZ Ready to roll that 

1053
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:00,120
one. 
Yeah, let's do it. 

1054
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:03,120
Sergeant. 
Liz Lens in Tempe PD. 

1055
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:05,240
Hello. 
Hey, who's been using the 

1056
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:06,680
megaphone? 
I have. 

1057
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:08,880
Yeah, and what's your name? 
Jeff. 

1058
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:09,800
Jeff. 
Oh. 

1059
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Yeah, Jeff, it's Pastor Jeff. 
Pastor Jeff, I'm so supposed to 

1060
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,280
know where you pastor at? 
Apology at church in Tempe. 

1061
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,040
OK. 
And what's your last name, Jeff?

1062
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,960
Do you need that for anything? 
Yes, we do, because I'll, we, we

1063
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,360
have a complaint that we're 
working. 

1064
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:24,800
That's why we're here, OK? 
Otherwise we would not be here. 

1065
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:27,040
In my respect, your position, I 
was just telling this officer 

1066
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,160
over here in order to for me to 
identify myself, I have to be 

1067
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,440
sided with a crime according to 
Arizona State law. 

1068
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:33,480
Well. 
We're going to give you a 

1069
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:35,760
warning right now, so we're 
going to need that for a street 

1070
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:36,800
check. 
So what's your last name? 

1071
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,160
OK, so the warning is a 
violation of the law. 

1072
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:41,320
Well, because of the amplified 
sound device. 

1073
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,600
What I was saying to the officer
was he's right over here. 

1074
00:50:45,080 --> 00:50:48,600
Zach, Where's the other Zach? 
Morgan, he's out of state right 

1075
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:49,960
now. 
OK, I'm used to. 

1076
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,760
They know me and Steven knows 
me. 

1077
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,040
So you're going to be given a 
warning you cannot use. 

1078
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:56,920
Any officer. 
You can't do that, officer. 

1079
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:58,680
You can't do that unless you 
have a calibrated meter 

1080
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:00,280
according to the city code. 
Oh, we can. 

1081
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:01,960
And you test it. 
Yeah, we can. 

1082
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:04,160
And so you can. 
Violate this law, we have a. 

1083
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:05,880
Complaint. 
That's a citizen. 

1084
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,440
A complaint of illegal activity.
We have complaint. 

1085
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:11,720
Of illegal activity. 
Disorderly conduct. 

1086
00:51:12,080 --> 00:51:13,640
Ma'am, if you read the city 
code. 

1087
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,160
He's saying a complaint of a 
legal activity, not illegal 

1088
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:20,160
activity. 
Somebody said I don't like the 

1089
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,560
thing that the guy is doing 
that's legal. 

1090
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:23,280
And so that's where we're at 
right now. 

1091
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,200
What do you think about that 
Lady? 

1092
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,400
Is that your favorite kind of 
cop or what? 

1093
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:30,040
George? 
You know, I think Garrett 

1094
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,840
touched on it. 
It's, it's not the decibel 

1095
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,160
level, it's the content of the 
message. 

1096
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:40,280
And this ties in perfectly with 
the 45 page indictment against 

1097
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,960
Trump. 
This is a war on free speech. 

1098
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,920
It plain and simple. 
Yeah, it does seem like they're 

1099
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,720
First Amendment protected. 
Even if he's wrong, he has the 

1100
00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:49,600
right to be wrong. 
They're they're trying to say 

1101
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:51,960
that he's knowingly wrong and 
using that knowingly wrong 

1102
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,240
information. 
And potentially as as was argued

1103
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:57,520
in these sort of court cases 
that we're talking about, 

1104
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,720
particularly the the Bush V Gore
piece, is that the he had every 

1105
00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:03,720
right to go and ask for a 
political solution to a problem 

1106
00:52:03,720 --> 00:52:05,960
that he had, which is a 
political problem, which is to 

1107
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,640
say he wanted to stay in office 
even if he knew he was wrong. 

1108
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,320
Theoretically, that that's what 
the argument is. 

1109
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,000
So they get us chasing the laser
pointer of all the different 

1110
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,640
counts in the indictment. 
And I had them all all lined up,

1111
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:16,720
and they're not even worth 
covering a lot of them because 

1112
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,600
it's fiction, as you mentioned. 
It doesn't make a difference 

1113
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,280
whether they're true or not. 
It doesn't matter at all. 

1114
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:22,880
Garrett, I'm going to get your 
reaction to this last video if 

1115
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,920
we'll pull up. 
I think it's video #3 no, it's 

1116
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:28,800
not showing up on there. 
There was a YouTube video that 

1117
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:29,440
we have. 
Sorry. 

1118
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,520
YouTube, Twitter. 
Yeah. 

1119
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:32,800
Is that what it is? 
There it is, yes. 

1120
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,120
Video 2. 
Thank you so much. 

1121
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,560
Can you pull up Video 2. 
This is what happened just a 

1122
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:38,400
couple days ago, folks. 
And this is in Wisconsin. 

1123
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,040
This is right in Garrett's 
backyard. 

1124
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,960
True love serve one another all 
the law is to. 

1125
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,960
Build in one word. 
Even in this, you shall love 

1126
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,560
your neighbor as yourself. 
But if you buy and devour one 

1127
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:55,440
another, beware. 
Lest you be consumed by one 

1128
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,000
another. 
Hey, hey. 

1129
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:57,960
What are you doing? 
What are you? 

1130
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:00,640
Doing what is the problem? 
What? 

1131
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:06,600
Are you doing? 
You didn't give any warning. 

1132
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:07,840
This is. 
The same one that we had. 

1133
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:09,960
Yeah, that was in there. 
It was not out here. 

1134
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,160
They said we can have because 
they said we can speak out here 

1135
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,720
on the sidewalk freely. 
Nobody told us that. 

1136
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:24,720
How come there's no 
amplification? 

1137
00:53:25,720 --> 00:53:27,200
You guys are acting like thugs, 
man. 

1138
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:31,160
You're like straight up thugs. 
Hey, you're you're taking away 

1139
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,920
my. 
He has every right to be out 

1140
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:37,000
here engaging in speech. 
He has every right to be out 

1141
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:41,440
here engaging in speech. 
There's cars driving by with 

1142
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,880
their radios playing. 
That's amplified sound. 

1143
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,800
People are standing out here 
with radios, that's amplified 

1144
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,400
sound. 
The ordinance has to do with a 

1145
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,280
decibel gauge. 
You don't just get to pick and 

1146
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,200
choose which amplification you 
like there what we're. 

1147
00:53:57,240 --> 00:53:59,600
Seeing is now, police officers 
are now leading away. 

1148
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,080
This guy, he's got to be in his 
early 20s. 

1149
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,440
He's out there doing sort of a 
scriptural reading. 

1150
00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,720
I don't know what the event that
he was standing outside of, but 

1151
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:09,440
he's on the sidewalk and in a 
place that he's publicly allowed

1152
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,680
to be where they were previously
told they could stand. 

1153
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,680
And you've got something like 7 
or 8 cops roll up. 

1154
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:18,560
They all look like our tribe of 
people, that's to say young, you

1155
00:54:18,560 --> 00:54:21,880
know, like fit, capable people 
who swore allegiance to the 

1156
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Constitution. 
And they walk up and they 

1157
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:25,800
immediately put the guy's hands 
behind his back, strip the 

1158
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,600
microphone out of his hand and 
cuff him. 

1159
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,920
There was no discussion. 
There was no citation. 

1160
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,000
This was straight to cuffing and
dragging him away. 

1161
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:34,600
Again, the content of the 
message. 

1162
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,280
Will you give a little 
reflection on I I tweeted about 

1163
00:54:37,280 --> 00:54:38,680
the reserve police battalion one
O 1. 

1164
00:54:38,680 --> 00:54:40,440
But I give you an opportunity to
talk about that anytime you 

1165
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,320
like, Garrett. 
Yeah, so this video, it's really

1166
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,360
disturbing for me because like 
you said, it's it's right in my 

1167
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,320
backyard. 
I mean, Watertown is, is 30 

1168
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:53,400
minutes, maybe a two of my 
former colleagues live there. 

1169
00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,520
It's a very quaint conservative 
town. 

1170
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:01,800
And for those officers in a town
like that, in this once great 

1171
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:05,360
country to show up at that event
and literally arrest someone for

1172
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:09,920
reading from the Bible or, or 
preaching a message that's based

1173
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,560
on the Christian faith, it is 
astonishing. 

1174
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:17,080
And yeah, like, it's, it's tough
for me to, to deal with because,

1175
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,200
like, I think of my days as a 
cop, like I never would have 

1176
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:22,320
handled a situation like that. 
Never. 

1177
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,320
And most of my colleagues, I 
don't think would have either. 

1178
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,880
Some, yeah, probably, which is 
unfortunate, but that Sergeant, 

1179
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,720
he's the one who went in there 
initially and strong armed that 

1180
00:55:32,720 --> 00:55:36,320
kid and grabbed the mic. 
And then everybody else followed

1181
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,800
suit like, oh, the Sergeant, 
well, he's he's doing it. 

1182
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,320
So OK, I'm just going to slap 
the cuffs on and get this kid 

1183
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,440
out of here. 
And that's that slippery slope 

1184
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,880
we've talked about before. 
And we've talked about the Nazi 

1185
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,320
argument before. 
OK, Then again, I've said it 

1186
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:52,440
before on your show. 
Well, then the FBI needs to stop

1187
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,880
doing the Holocaust trip If if 
they think that talking about 

1188
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,920
Nazism is a is a bridge too far 
because you go on that trip so 

1189
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,160
you don't repeat the mistakes of
the past. 

1190
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,400
And in 1932 in Germany, that's 
the type of thing they were 

1191
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,040
doing. 
That's what law enforcement was 

1192
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,480
doing. 
They were quelling speech. 

1193
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,000
They were quelling dissenters 
and they were escorting them 

1194
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,960
away. 
If they were engaging in speech 

1195
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,240
that was outside of the Nazi 
regime. 

1196
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,000
And for it to be happening in a 
conservative town like that and 

1197
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,280
in Wisconsin like it's happening
everywhere, then and then where 

1198
00:56:26,280 --> 00:56:27,680
did? 
That meet you just so people 

1199
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,440
understand 1932 we're shutting 
down speech, we're identifying 

1200
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,800
people that are problems and by 
the time we get around till 1939

1201
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,840
what's happening. 
And then you have Holocaust, you

1202
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:39,480
know, you have, you have, you 
have a concentration camp set up

1203
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,360
by then. 
So it, it's, you know, people 

1204
00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:44,480
always say, oh, that's never 
going to happen again because 

1205
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:46,760
the human race has evolved. 
No, we haven't. 

1206
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,840
No, we haven't. 
Our technology may have evolved,

1207
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:52,000
but us as people have not. 
Hate still exists, You know, 

1208
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:56,560
anti God beliefs still exist. 
Anti human beliefs still exist. 

1209
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:59,800
And oh, if you've been othered 
like the Jews were and the 

1210
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,760
gypsies and the communists and 
the gays and a list of a bunch, 

1211
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,960
yeah, a list of people. 
Everybody always thinks, oh, 

1212
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,840
it's just the Jews. 
Like, yeah, they were a big 

1213
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,760
section, you know, subset of it,
probably the biggest. 

1214
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,200
But it wasn't just them. 
And we're seeing that othering 

1215
00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,440
happening again here. 
And I would venture to say that 

1216
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,160
most of those cops that showed 
up at that call in Watertown the

1217
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,880
other day, they probably have a 
conservative bent, but they're 

1218
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,560
doing it anyways. 
And that is the real problem. 

1219
00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:33,680
And and that is like where like,
I almost don't even know what to

1220
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:37,520
say or how to comprehend it or 
how to grasp it because it's so 

1221
00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:41,320
far beyond the pale for what I 
always tried to do as a law 

1222
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:44,000
enforcement officer, both at the
local level and in the FBI. 

1223
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,000
So it's just difficult to take 
in. 

1224
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,200
And then when you pair it with 
the previous video with Jeff 

1225
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,120
Durbin, how it was handled, even
though the the older cop didn't 

1226
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:57,000
know the law and the the the 
female supervisor, obviously it 

1227
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,000
was a real Karen, but they 
didn't strong arm him to get him

1228
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,280
out of there. 
They end up walking away 

1229
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,000
themselves with the citations. 
That's what you have to do. 

1230
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,160
Exactly. 
Yeah. 

1231
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,120
And, and so, yeah, just to see 
that video with, with that kid 

1232
00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:11,320
getting strong on like that and 
coughed and escorted out of 

1233
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:13,760
there for engaging and 1st 
Amendment protected speech. 

1234
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:16,600
OK, you know what, if there's a,
if there's a decibel issue with 

1235
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,680
his amplification device, OK, 
fine. 

1236
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,560
Then let's deal with that and 
say, hey, dude, it's too loud. 

1237
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,400
And you know what, I actually 
was flipping through Watertown's

1238
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,880
Muni code book last. 
Well, I say flipping through 

1239
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,560
like I actually had, I was on 
their website looking through, I

1240
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:33,120
couldn't even find what the 
decibels are supposed to be 

1241
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,920
because their noise ordinance 
didn't even cover that. 

1242
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,560
So it it's, it's more of a 
reasonableness standard. 

1243
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:42,880
So they have to take in the time
of day a special events, you 

1244
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,120
know, and I have the links. 
I mean, I'm, I'm sure people 

1245
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,200
don't want to go down the rabbit
hole Watertown WI you know, muni

1246
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,440
code, but it's. 
More like a, it's more like an 

1247
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,720
example that exists. 
And these are in two different 

1248
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:55,440
places around the country 
showing, you know, this, this 

1249
00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:58,320
trend and the trend is more 
towards action and, and doing 

1250
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:00,080
what they're told. 
George, you live in a different 

1251
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:02,720
part of the country as well. 
Could you imagine that happening

1252
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:04,000
in your town as well at this 
point? 

1253
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,640
It probably wouldn't be as much 
of exchange of dialogue. 

1254
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:09,520
It would have been handcuffed 
pretty quick. 

1255
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:14,160
But look, I had a pinned tweet. 
But this has been going on for a

1256
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,560
while, starting with the defund 
the police movement and then the

1257
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:20,880
vaccine mandates. 
The the left in this country has

1258
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:25,720
been policing the ranks of 
police and law and, you know, 

1259
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,880
the federal entities and the 
military of people who don't 

1260
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,840
just reflexively follow orders. 
And this is what we've got. 

1261
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,880
This is this is by design. 
This is not by accident. 

1262
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,920
This is not a one off that you 
can come up with two videos that

1263
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,040
just took place within days of 
one another. 

1264
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:46,440
And then on top of everything 
else we're seeing, this is a 

1265
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:52,440
plan that we see starting to gel
and starting to set and and we 

1266
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,360
wind up in pre World War 2 
Poland. 100% there. 

1267
00:59:57,360 --> 00:59:58,800
I'm going to take the last word 
on this folks. 

1268
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,560
When I, when we have these, 
these call outs, it's not 

1269
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,680
because we don't think that law 
enforcement is overwhelmingly 

1270
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,080
full of good people. 
What we're talking about is the 

1271
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,440
so-called good men and women of 
the FBI, a federal law 

1272
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,520
enforcement of the state and the
local law enforcement. 

1273
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,080
They need to police their own. 
It is your job. 

1274
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,520
Your job is to refuse illegal, 
immoral, unethical. 

1275
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,040
Orders if you want to call them 
that or request by supervisors 

1276
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:25,400
if you are a supervisor, you 
cannot engage in this behavior 

1277
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:26,640
if you see your colleagues do 
so. 

1278
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:30,480
The FBI has actually created a 
duty to act to stop your 

1279
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,240
colleagues from depriving people
of their civil liberties up to 

1280
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:36,160
and including deadly force. 
This is a new piece of DOJ has 

1281
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:38,320
been introduced. 
I generally don't think that is 

1282
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:42,080
AI think they had the wrong 
answer, but the idea that you 

1283
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:44,240
should not be allowing your 
colleagues to engage in this 

1284
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:46,360
type of behavior. 
It is always been there. 

1285
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:48,480
It's never not been part of that
oath. 

1286
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,840
Your job is to make sure you 
protect civil liberties of 

1287
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:53,960
everyone out there, including 
from your colleagues. 

1288
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:57,440
It's not just your refusal to 
infringe on it. 

1289
01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:00,400
It has to be something that you 
look and you see that others are

1290
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,720
out there doing the same thing 
and you do not accept it. 

1291
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,880
We got a bunch more things to 
talk about, but we'll keep doing

1292
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:06,120
this stuff. 
We'll have it on. 

1293
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:08,360
I think we'll do it again on 
Friendly Friday with more 

1294
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:10,160
tomorrow. 
I'm going to be bringing you an 

1295
01:01:10,160 --> 01:01:13,240
interview with Tiffany Justice 
for Moms for Liberty. 

1296
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:16,520
The segue there is we heard a 
little bit of hope on Tuesday 

1297
01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:19,400
from a from a high school age 
young gal who did a great job 

1298
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:22,680
and and kind of shared with us 
her generally out positive 

1299
01:01:22,680 --> 01:01:24,600
outlook, conservative 
perspective on America. 

1300
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,360
I thought that was really 
wonderful, especially with 

1301
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:27,960
parents that don't necessarily 
agree with her. 

1302
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:30,480
That's kind of opening her eyes.
Give us a little bit of hope. 

1303
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:31,520
Today is a little bit of a 
downer. 

1304
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:34,240
Unfortunately, tomorrow will be 
how you fight back a little bit.

1305
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,920
We're talking to Tiffany Justice
with Moms for Liberty, the 

1306
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,160
things you can do locally to try
to make a difference, to make 

1307
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,200
sure that your children are 
educated in the way that 

1308
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:44,040
Americans have always been 
educated, that they understand 

1309
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:45,360
things that are important. 
If you're not going to 

1310
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,040
homeschool, then you got to 
fight to make sure that 

1311
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:49,840
government schools are the thing
that you want to send your kids 

1312
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,960
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If you're still sitting in that 

1313
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:52,720
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1314
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:54,320
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1315
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:56,360
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1316
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,480
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1317
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,120
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1318
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,520
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Steve Friend on, scroll on down 

1319
01:02:02,520 --> 01:02:05,440
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1320
01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:07,760
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1321
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:10,160
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1322
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,720
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We'll put it into the topic. 

1323
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,920
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1324
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,960
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1327
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01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,200
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01:02:43,120 --> 01:02:46,480
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1338
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,200
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1340
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1341
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1342
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,080
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1343
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1344
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:07,080
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1345
01:03:07,080 --> 01:03:09,760
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1346
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1347
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:16,320
guess whose personal experiences
are sure to deeply affect how 

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you understand the irrationality
and silliness of our modern age.

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God bless you, Ryan and the 
fellow suspendables, including 

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our guests who are very thankful
for George Hill, Congressional 

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whistle blower and intelligence 
analysts retired from the FBI, 

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and Gerardo Boyle, another two 
of my heroes that are out there 

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in the world that are pushing 
the envelope and making sure 

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that you guys have access to 
information from a reputable 

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sources. 
So gentlemen, thanks so much for

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joining me today. 
Again, We'll also say thanks to 

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Ryan Madda, the very skilled and
talented who's been queuing up 

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all of our videos and making 
sure this thing runs smoothly 

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despite some of our little 
technical glitches. 

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Follow Ryan at Ryan Matta Media,
MATTA Media, Ryan Matta Media on

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Twitter, or you can follow him 
at Ryan Madda on True social. 

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We're there folks. 
Our opening theme was composed 

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by my talented brother Casey 
Seraphin. 

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I'm sure you all heard it. 
Please consider subscribing to 

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the podcast anywhere you get it.
Share it anywhere else you like.

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Gentlemen, you want to throw out
your social media handles real 

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quick and people can follow you 
as well. 

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Garrett first. 
GOB, actual Twitter, Instagram 

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and truth and then last 
line.substack.com. 

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Are you letting people into the 
last line yet? 

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Not quite, not quite. 
So hopefully we'll have some 

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some developing news on that 
front. 

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I've had some interesting 
developments with on the 

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attorney front, so. 
OK, good enough. 

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I'll come back and talk about 
that soon. 

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Yeah, you got it, my friend. 
George, where can people follow 

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you? 
Senior chief SENIOR chief 

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CHIEFEXW. 
All one word at Twitter. 

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Got it, Senior chief Exw on 
Twitter, folks, follow my 

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friends there and you will have 
a enlightened perspective on the

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the daily events. 
We're all pretty active in the 

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social media space these days 
and we will see you again 

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tomorrow with an interview with 
Tiffany Justice. 

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Thanks so much for joining us 
for the Kyle Seraphin Show. 

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Thanks for listening to the Kyle
Seraphin Show streamed live 

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weekdays on rumble.com/kyle 
Seraphin. 

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Follow Kyle on Twitter, True 
Social and Instagram at Kyle 

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Seraphin.