Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower, an
American patriot. Prepare to embrace the
uncomfortable truth, because this program has no time for
comforting lies. Here is civil liberties
enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraf. Hello my friends.
Welcome to the Kyle Seraphin Show.
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He did not know that the camera was going to do a hard reboot
and I was going to have to restart my system.
Today is Wednesday, It is September the 6th and you are
watching the Kyle Seraphin Show streamed live from Liberty Hill,
TX. Got a guest with me today.
A good friend of ours, suspendable.
George Hill. You will remember George Hill if
you have seen the scandal the FBI got involved in by sharing
information, or rather Bank of America shared information with
the FBI and he outed that he came forward.
Even though he was a retired guy that didn't need to get
involved, he still felt that it was his duty and obligation as
an American citizen who wants to live in a free country.
So we've got George on. We're going to talk a little bit
about some of the stuff that's been going on in the news today.
Kind of our take on my metaphor, the overgrown garden, and we'll
do a long discussion, I think, on that.
And that's going to be probably the meat of what today's show
is. Before we get too started and
too far away from what what I want to cover.
I want to start with a thanks to my friends over at Catholic
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I've got the Loop on my phone. I'm going to open it up right
now because I already took a look at it today.
We've got a story from the Loop that we're going to discuss.
George and I will kind of riff on the number one story is
Democrats calling on Democrats to primary Biden.
That's not a shock. That should be definitely
happening. Democrats confronting Biden over
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Welcome to the party and what we'll be talking about a little
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thinks that library should be recruiting zones for leftist and
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That's what we that's what we really like to hear.
In fact, we did talk a little bit about that with Tiffany
Justice. If you guys recall our episode
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The Biden team struggling to support, I'm sorry, denying
support to struggling parents, of course.
What would you expect? And a couple of other little
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Catholic. Some stuff going on in Loudon
County which is just outside of the Washington DC little circle
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Without too much further ado, want to bring on there he is the
man, the myth, the legend in many ways.
George, I wanted to get into a little funny story about how you
and I first connected because I felt like it was the it's the
standard for the way guys like you and I should should make
contact with each other. Well, we have no video or we no
audio from you. Is it there?
Is it? Who?
He's got audio and video on both.
Okay George, Can you hear me? I just can't hear George.
Give me one second, Kyle. If you can't hear him, hold on.
Okay, it says. Connection problems on my end,
whatever that means, and maybe he can't hear me.
Oh, I don't. I don't know, Kyle.
I can hear both of them, and I got his audio, but give me one
more second. I guess this is the fun of a
live show, folks. Bear with us just one moment and
we'll get George where we can both hear him.
How about now, Kyle? I don't know.
George, can you hear me? Nope.
George can't hear me. There's something.
Bomber guys, do you want to have him dial back in real quick?
Yeah, maybe could jump out and come back in.
Yeah, if you jump out and come back in, George, the folks in
the chat are saying they can hear both of us, but we can't
hear each other. So that's going to be a weird
talk pass conversation. Yeah.
George, if you'll bail out of the the show and come on back
in, we'll we'll get you connected and I'll keep the warm
intro that we already did. We'll say how great he was.
Before we do any further on that, I want to talk about just
kind of the the quick things that we're going to discuss
today. There's the arrest of Nathan
Hughes. Many of you guys may have seen
that from the Hodge twins tweeting it out.
Said it was a friend of theirs arrested by the FBI.
You found out I. Forgot he can't hear you.
So, George, you have to leave. I forgot you were telling him
what to do. And he was he couldn't hear you.
So, George, you're going to. I want you to leave and come
back real quick. And then we think.
Yep. There we go.
Okay. Gotcha.
Go fantastic. We're going to talk about some
of the the new, the new Bud Light of the day, which I think
George and I will both have an opinion on as gun owners.
And of course we saw that the, the leader of the Proud Boys was
sentenced yesterday to 22 years in prison, which I think is
going to be unsettling for all of us to discuss.
It is the nature of of government to continue to grow
and to continue to overreach. I feel like we've reached sort
of that terminal and dangerous point at this at this juncture
in our country. And so this this particular
episode is known as the overgrown garden.
But we're talking about a potentially post constitutional
America. George, have you, have you.
Can you hear me? I can hear you fine now.
Yeah, we've solved the problem. It might have been my hard
reboot, so I want to. I want to dig into the the the
quick and dirty of it. But you and I when we first
interacted you found me on Twitter.
We didn't know each other while we work for the FBI.
And I felt like the way that you engaged me because I get a lot
of people reaching out and they're like hey, you know let's
connect. And here's my crazy 15 paragraph
blurb about why you should know me.
And and yours was really tight when you when you reached out
you recall what you said. I do recall one sentence which
was You have sources. Check me out.
That's right. Because having been in this
business for for over 4 decades. I have little time for for idle
chat and they're just so many posers out there.
I just don't have any time left in my life to to deal with them.
So you know it's it's kind of like a thing born within the
developed in the Marine Corps If you're not early or late, you
know, don't waste people's time, you know.
So yeah, I'm not a touchy feely guy and.
It it's it cuts both ways. Some people appreciate it.
Other people's find it rather off putting the the thing that
that struck me was you basically said, you know, I was in the
Boston field office, you have sources.
Check me out and then make connection if you want.
And I did exactly that. It's like this is my name, this
is where you, this is how you would source who I am.
And so I did and I reached out to the Boston field office
friends that we have a mutual friend and got a quick review on
who you were as a person and that was enough.
And then you and I had a phone call I think in December of last
year because I know I was sitting in a hotel and and and
we had never met while we worked in the Bureau but got the got
the immediate vibe of a kindred spirit like you said I had the
your your reputation was no nonsense a straight shooter and
and a very fair individual who just didn't you know mince words
and I went like oh that's a guy I want to talk to you.
And since then our friendship, I think it's grown and and it's
been really beneficial to me to have a lot of the the experience
that you have and we're going to bring that to the audience
today. But if you are out there on
Twitter or on social media and you want to reach out to a guy
like George Hill, if you want to reach out to a guy like me or a
Steve friend or a Guerdo Boyle and you want to introduce
yourself, if you want to send us like a long sell job, that's
pretty much what we do for a living, is read through sell
jobs. Would you agree with that?
Yeah, it's, you know, where's your elevator pitch?
Here's, here's who I am. Here's why.
And you have to come out with the hook, which is This is why
it's beneficial for you to pursue this, you know,
relationship. If you can't spew that out in
three or four sentences, you're done.
But most importantly, it has to be, you know, This is why it's
it's it's beneficial to you for us to make this connection
because a lot of people reach out and it's about the benefit
to them, which, I don't know. You and I could care less.
Exactly. That's exactly it.
It's like, why? Why do I care?
So we had a we had a a couple of journalists reach out we had
some folks I I have some friendly relationships with the
people that were the staff at Project Veritas.
We're actually going to show some of their video later on and
some of the staff at Project Veritas had reached out to me
and asked me if I would promote A cause of theirs.
And I think it's a worthy cause. And the cause is essentially
Project Veritas has failed to to back the journalists that were
raided by the FBI in New York and they are not supporting them
in a legal sense. And so they are kind of on the
hook for whatever the legal bills are and those may be
substantial because they're going against the federal
government. And so they sent me this video
and the video starts off with I am this person and I was
nominated by the people at Project Veritas to do this thing
and I have done this thing and it's like I you lost me.
I don't care. I I already don't care.
And I even like these people. And so the the concept that we
teach in in briefing, and I know that you've probably helped your
the people that were students underneath you in the college
setting, but also in the professional sense, the bottom
line up front, the bluff, the the powerful nature of just
giving me a reason to listen. Yeah, if you can't capture that
person in in one or two sentences, it's it's over.
The longer you go on trying to make your point, you're just
wasting your time. And as time goes by, whether
it's in sentences or in seconds, you're pushing that person away.
So one of the things that I've learned from hanging out talking
to you, and like I said, I do benefit from your experience.
You've got like a much deeper depth of wisdom.
Mine is sort of shallow and and very broad.
And I have that benefit of working in the private sector.
But I've kind of come to the concept of the United States is
a lot like a garden. Did you ever, I don't know if
you ever read like American literature going up.
And I and I recall there there's this idea, the myth of Edenic
possibilities. You recall that from like a
classical education at all. Maybe not.
I do remember the term and I and I keep it alive and refreshed,
which is you need to weed your garden from time to time,
meaning take people out of your life that are just choking out
the sunshine and the nutrients and the water from people who
actually enrich your life. Might be along the same vein.
It's the same idea. So the idea was, is that when
the when the European settlers came over to the new world, to
the new continent, there was an untouched sort of pristine land.
Let's just we'll just have to ignore the fact that they were
indigenous peoples here and doing whatever they were doing.
But for the for the European mindset, they had come into a
place that was essentially what they called an identic garden.
It was a new world. It was a new possibility, even
though the name New World implies that they had a new shot
at sort of the the the covenant with God.
And we talked about adultery yesterday and kind of got into
the things that have that have gotten in the way, I think in
our society. But the the literary references,
the myth of Edenic possibilities, which is to say
this, this fundamental hopefulness.
And it's captured all the way through American literature.
And I think you'll find that this is, like really true when
we think about the governmental structure, which is that they
said we have a new shot, a new birth of freedom on this land to
be able to bring forth something that has not been done because
we are starting with a incredibly wealthy land and
resources in space, in people, in capabilities and so on.
We have, you know, we have ports and we have timber and we have
waterways and we have the ability to grow things.
And all this kind of stuff was all available to these guys that
that that looked out and saw, you know, basically a vastness
out to the West. And the idea of the Garden was,
if you create a beautiful landscape, architecture,
blueprint to be able to lay out this foundational principle,
which was our constitution, then you can create sort of a perfect
place for people to live in. And and they use the word Edenic
in literature because they're talking about the Garden of
Eden, literally the first covenant that that man and God
had together and and sort of the first shot at that perfect
existence. And so America in many ways for
the Europeans and certainly for the Founding Fathers,
represented a opportunity to maybe regrasp that sort of
Edenic capability of living in harmony with God.
And we got a really, really good constitution.
We got a really, really good framework to play with.
And yet, as is the nature of all things human, we are flawed
creatures. I think you would acknowledge
that pretty well. And we are also people who are
not necessarily always attuned to the things that are the most
important to ourselves until it's too late.
And so the idea is in my estimation, the federal
government and the and the mechanisms of the federal
government which were supposed to be very limited and very they
were supposed to be very narrow in function, have gotten so
broad recently because they have been neglected.
And my my sort of analogy is, is like Ivy, like common Ivy.
There's it's also known as English Ivy, but it basically
grows on the ground. It's a ground cover and it can
take up a lot of space and it can be beautiful.
But if you don't let it, you know, if you don't have
something out there keeping the boundaries at Bay, then it'll
grow up your walls and it'll get into your foundation and it'll
take out the bricks on the side and it'll choke out your trees.
So that's the that's kind of the the the analogy I thought how do
you feel about the creeping nature of government from your
different, you know, your 4 decades or so within?
It's changed radically over the course of my lifetime.
I'm obviously retired now, so we're talking about, you know,
at least as far as being aware of the scope of federal
government we're talking about over 5 decades.
It's changed radically in in size.
It's created in every aspect of our lives.
But it's it's not by accident as you.
Alluded to just a few seconds ago, Kyle.
It's actually by designed. It's just it's part of the
structure of government to continue to grow, to continue to
to push its way into people's lives, some of it altruistic
thinking they're doing something good for the country.
It In most cases, though, it's come to the point where it's all
about power and amassing power. You know, I remember Reagan
talking about the the federal deficit back in the 80s and now
we're up to. I don't know, I'm sure someone
will correct me, $23 trillion at $23 trillion in debt.
I should be riding on black silk ribbons of Rd. you know, and and
never sitting in traffic. But it's just crept into every
aspect of our society, which is what the framers had intended to
avoid with the concept of federalism.
Feel like you've had probably a much greater insight into sort
of the budgetary process and the way that the federal government
sort of grows, at least in the two agencies that you've worked
for. Can you kind of give people some
insight into how that process works?
And and maybe that it's not the nefarious thing that people
think it is, that it's actually sort of like what we call the
banality of evil. I think the best example of that
would be, let's just talk about the defense appropriations bill.
I've worked in the private sector for a few years in
between wars, and I've worked for a defense company.
Which which got gobbled up but you have congressmen and
senators that will push for you know that we need to have
multiple places in the country for these engines to be
manufactured just and they treated it as a jobs program And
then they would stand in front of the camera and they would
look like a a defense hawk you know pro America waving flag
back in you know behind their head in the background when in
reality. They were just protecting their
seat under the guise of protecting their constituency.
So you had to have multiple places in the country where the
engines for the B52 bombers were made, multiple places the
General Electric used to manufacture fighter engines and
engines for helicopters, and I'm just using that as an example,
but you know. If you're not expanding in
government, you're not doing your job.
If you're not, you know, pushing programs out.
If you're not building headcount, you're failing that.
I think that's a really profound thought and most people would
never consider that because from private industry, if you are not
streamlining your business, if you are not trying to get leaner
and meter and you don't make a profit, the incentive of the
government is exactly the opposite from what you just
said. And I think that seems to be my
experience as well. If you're not expanding, you're
failing. Yeah, 100%.
So in the analogy of the garden that I like to use, I always
talk about the Bill of Rights as being sort of those, those green
landscape boundaries. You know, you've you've lined
out here's where the lawn is and here's where the Ivy is and
here's where the flower beds are.
And you put down those barriers and those barriers are great,
right? And they do a decent job of
letting you know where the boundary is.
But if you don't come in with a weed wacker and and and really
trim and hedge out those creeping Ivy's the the
government that needs to expand in order to feel like it's
successful. If you're not constantly hitting
that barrier with a with a fast spinning string, then you're
going to see it grow over and suddenly your Ivy is going to be
in your lawn and your flower bed is going to get choked out by
Ivy. And suddenly everything is
government. And in many ways I feel like
that's where we're all right now.
We the weed whackers not being used to to maintain those
boundaries, which are sort of the civil liberties in the
first, the the 1st 10 amendments that are supposed to be
delineating that line. But there's no incentive to use
the weed whacker. It actually incentive to not use
the weed whacker, which we just covered a few seconds ago.
You know, This is why this 2025 plan is important.
This is why the next election is so important, because.
The federal government will continue to metastasize and
spread and creep like Ivy over everything and choking it out
and and what we're seeing now is the Ivy choking out people's
civil liberties. And people are just starting to
notice that how dangerous this the spread has become.
And a lot of these people I think live in the middle of the
lawn. They had no idea that they were
near the boundaries but the but it's crept so far away from the
boundary that it's actually getting into.
You know, everyday people moms who are on Twitter or TikTok and
you know like a dad who wants to post a video about something and
realizes suddenly he crossed the line that he didn't even know
existed, right. You know, he's he's made an
innocent post. No one is illegal.
Everyone's welcome here. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait
a minute. You know, not, not these people.
Not this many people. They're like, that's a great
analogy. They're living in the middle of
the lawn. They have no idea that their
virtue signaling is actually has some sort of a cost to it and
they're they're just starting to realize it.
Now the question is, is that, you know, are people realizing
too late or are there some people that just want to go by
the axiom when you're in too deep, go deeper.
There's that. The other thing I see a lot of
his people self censoring and I I host these Twitter space on a
regular basis to hear what a couple 100 people may have to
say on any given night and people will constantly say, you
know, in case there's any feds listening, I want to say this
and you know there's a tremendous fear of the the
capabilities of the government. Can you talk about a little bit
about one, how founded that is, but also maybe sort of the
limitations that exist because there are obviously human
limitations that people don't understand.
I think that's I'm going to go with the opposite of that where
most people think of ago. I think it's more psychological
and that when someone says I got to be careful what I say
because, you know, Secti might be monitoring this podcast.
And then they do that either consciously or subconsciously to
get the listener to say, ooh, this person is going to say
something really profound and dangerous.
So I think it's it's akin to when someone says, you know, and
and I know Dan Bongino quotes Demi Moore a lot on this one
with that movie where she was trying to be a SEAL or something
like that. You know, I don't want to make a
statement, but yeah, I don't want to make a statement.
But, you know, and the and the commander says, yeah, people who
don't want to make statements don't make statements about
making statements. So I I think it's like that it's
it's more psychological to kind of draw people in like, oh, this
man or this woman's going to say something really profound.
I better listen now. So I I don't think we see
overtly evidence of selfcensorship.
I think it's more covertly and and underneath our our field of
vision where people either withdraw entirely from social
media or, you know, I even have friends when I'm out hiking.
And we'll get into these rather heated discussions on the trail
up in in New Hampshire, which is pretty blue.
You have a lot of people from the Democratic Socialist
People's Republic of Massachusetts who hike in New
Hampshire and you know, my friend will like, stop talking.
I'm like, no, don't stop, you know, say it out loud.
If it offends them, it offends them.
There's there's no penalty to be paid for stifling yourself.
In fact, there's a penalty to be paid for stifling yourself.
That's I think what I'm getting at is that people are internally
sensing their thoughts like you say the people that are that are
most concerned, it's not them saying, well I don't want to say
this because of this. It's that they literally walk
out and they go you know my wife is one of those people.
It's it's very conscious conscientious people.
It's very agreeable people which you and I probably we may be one
but not the other with with the with the people who have been
around us like I don't think you have a problem saying your mind
and and if that hurts someone's feelings that turns out to be a
them problem. I feel very similarly.
My wife will be like, oh, don't say that like.
What if somebody hears you and is exactly right?
It's like that's a them problem. Why are they eavesdropping on my
conversation if I'm so interesting?
It turns out they can turn into my podcast and hear exactly what
I think if they want to hear more.
And if they don't, they don't ever have to hear me again
because I'm about to walk past them.
Because I walk really quickly and I don't have time for slow,
you know, you know, dobbling around on the on the sidewalk
and if you happen to be listening and eavesdropping and
that offends you, that's a you problem.
It turns out you have no right not to be offended in this
country, right. I mean, I try to police my
language as as a, you know, 26 year veteran, 13 to which were
active duty Marine Corps. My language can be rather
colorful. If if I'm out in public, I try
to be mindful that there are people with children or you
know, other people that that maybe be turned off by, you
know, colorful language. But the content of my speech,
like you said, Kyle, if they have a problem with it, that's a
their problem. Not that's not my problem.
And I'm not going to censor myself for fear of, you know,
tweaking someone you know. As of today, there is no legal
penalty for saying something coming out of a CVS that someone
coming into the CVS might find offensive.
Except maybe in Michigan. It looks like they may have
criminalized that in some way. They yeah, there's some some
strange laws. I don't know how they hold up
against our First Amendment, but my my instinct is the weed
whacker. At least the primary weed
whacker that we should be using is our protected First Amendment
speech. You don't have a right to be
unoffended, you. And that includes people
speaking ways that you don't like either.
That should go both ways. I get into these on Twitter all
the time where people are blocking, oh, I block this guy
and they feel really proud of it.
It's like, no, I I listen to this guy.
In fact, if I find them very offensive and it's not because
of something they're saying that is, you know, grosser or or just
profane, if it's something that I just find very repulsive as an
idea, I often times follow them. Because I want to know, I just
followed a guy named William Lagate who is like David Hog's
buddy actually follow David Hog too.
And it's like, I want to know what people who I don't agree
with say, because I need to know what terminology is being used
and I need to know how radical they're being and and and I do
it and I'll engage with them in good faith.
And if I find out that they cannot be, you know, if I, if I
can't handle that, that's a me problem.
It turns out, it turns out that my inability to listen to them
is it's really on me. No, I agree 100%.
And you know, I I love following people that I I disagree with,
which is one of the reasons I'm more active on Twitter than I am
on true social. True social tends to be somewhat
of an echo chamber. I applaud President Trump and
and Devin Nunes for for developing that platform.
It's a friendly place, but I'd rather, I mean, I live in deep
blue Massachusetts. I find it helpful to listen to
you know, these people and what what their stance is.
I live around surrounded by people with BLM signs and and
hate has no home here signs. I love seeing these people and
listening to them because it helps me, you know, it enriches
my own perspective. Right.
And and clearly they're not all bad people.
That's I think the most important thing that I mentioned
yesterday. And for folks that didn't listen
to it, we kind of went on this rant about.
If you if you think that you're the end all be all, then you are
also idolatizing or you're I idolatizing.
How do you say that word? Idolatizing.
Idolizing. Thank you.
I added an extra syllable for no reason.
If you're idolizing yourself because you think that you're
the font of the only capability of truth and you are also
failing like we should all be capable of reflection and and so
anyway, I love to have it. Like you say, it enriches.
I think that's the right word for it.
I've got a couple videos. These are some of the things
that are happening right now. We talked about the the growth
of the, the. The administrative state the way
that the the government continues to buy its own
necessity by the way it's designed creep and we are now
seeing the sort of really bizarre sort of turn where
people are being arrested for misdemeanors in this country.
We just saw Enrico Tario sense of 22 years.
I want to talk about that a little bit too, because I know
you have a lot of experience in the in the counterterrorism
space and we can kind of just we I think if you don't work in the
in that world 22 years sounds like a punishment that people
might get. In in some reasonable setting.
But you know I've seen guys who were involved in creating child
pornography get 10 years and that being a rough sentence like
a really rough sentence. I've seen guys distributing
child pornography on on the dark web you know get 40 months of
which they served half of it kind of deal.
And so the idea that someone who wasn't physically at an event
that he conducted insurrection by remote using like not his
phone. I don't even know what he was
supposed to have been using. I think they even took his
devices. I think he was in custody at the
time, right? It was.
It was mental. Yeah, he was using the mental
botnet to reach out to the satellites and communicate with
his buddies through the Unspoken Conspiracy.
Anyway, that the absurdity of that kind of goes to the point
where I'm going to show you a couple videos right now.
Do we have the the arrest videos #4 capable Ryan?
Yes, Sir. Let's let's send that this came
out from the Hodge twins. This is a guy named Nathan
Hughes. He's in Fayetteville, AR.
He is just. A guy that was arrested for the
FBI, I'm going to talk about the circumstances of it and what
does the concrete allegations are in the fact patterns the DOJ
put out. And we're also going to talk
about the, I guess Liberty safes wants to be the next Bud Light
because of this. So we'll let's roll a video #4
if you could. I know there's two parts to it,
so we'll talk over if we have to.
You want a part one Kyle, with the cars, or part one outside
the store? Let's roll the cars 1st and and
you can do it without sound because George and I will
actually comment on it I think. Roger.
So folks, what you're seeing is camera from the surveillance at
the Hughes residence, and we are showing now a classic FBI arrest
warrant, search warrant package coming in.
You see a Suburban, there's a Buick that's probably some kind
of, I don't know who's getting the Buick, but in my office it
was always an S A/C or an ASAC. Now we've got a bunch of people
coming in in standard government cars.
You get your Chevys and your Dodges, You've got another SUV
rolling in. There's another.
Sedan, these are all darked out, so pretty standard.
You've got another sedan here. This looks like a Ford.
So that was probably what like 6 cars, maybe 7 cars and that's
pretty, that's pretty classic figure at least double
occupancy. Then it skips forward about 10
or 12 minutes. This is probably the search
package coming in. And so we just saw another two
cars roll in from the other side of the highway.
There's another one, Robin, in there as well.
So you've probably got upwards of 20 people on scene.
I'm wondering, George, did you do they have you on scene at all
with any of the searches or were you kind of back command post
status? George just cut out Kyle.
He just came right back when. You made that question when you
were working in Boston. Did you go on scene for any of
the searches for any of the subjects you guys were involved
in, or were you mostly command post?
No, I I did both. I'd say probably 2/3 command
post but a couple times on scene because some of the people on my
squad were on ERT Evidence recovery team.
So you know it. It gave me an opportunity to
observe first hand you know their performance and
interaction with the rest of the members of the team and agents
on site but but that's that's SOP.
That's how they roll these days that I'm only, I only joined the
Bureau in 2010 and that was how they rolled then.
I don't know how they rolled. You know pre 911 I'm sure it
wasn't that heavy and and also from a tactical standpoint if
you need that many men and women with guns and you come down a
fatal funnel like that you're all going to get smoked.
So I I to me, it's just a show of force.
So I used to describe it as law enforcement cosplay.
That's pretty much my standard ever since I went to the FBI
Academy, You know, I didn't have any other law enforcement to to
to ping it against other than my interactions with local police.
And what I would say is what the state police will do with one
trooper on the side of the road or most police officers will do
with a partner on a knock and talk.
The FBI will do with like a 10 to 20 man team and they won't
even blink an eye at it. Is that pretty much the same
experience in all the field offices?
As far as you know? Absolutely.
That's SOP, which is again why I went and down to Quantico six
years ago now, I think. I think it's because because I
was there 7 1/2 and I wanted to see how you know where, how, how
is this even happening? How is this even possible?
And I saw first hand how it's happening and how it's possible.
That's how we train them, you. Wouldn't give any insight into
watching did you. I'm assuming you got to see some
of the tactical training that happened in Hogan's Alley in the
way that they they teach people to to enter and compare that
maybe with your military experience overseas and how that
you know how that maybe combines with it or how how it's just
doesn't make any sense. Based on what struck me as odd
about Hogan's Alley is that the way they gained entry it there
didn't seem to be an overarching concern with safety of the
individuals who may be in the house.
I know that on my deployments, if if we entered the house, the
primary concern was the safety of and I I deploy with Marines
and and ODA Bubbas, but the primary concern was the the the
the men, the men. There were no women on the
trigger and here we're talking about American citizens.
And I saw the same not identically, but a very similar
mindset to what I saw in I I was only in Afghanistan.
I never, I didn't go to Iraq. I understand.
I never really involved in any kind of that the urban
activities there. But it didn't look unfamiliar in
terms of tactics, how the FBI works the students at Hogan's
Alley. Just didn't didn't seem to care
about the the safety of those inside because they're.
I guess they're lesser than if they have a search warrant
served there. We'll do kind of a tactics
evaluation here. We rolled the second video from
the Hodge Twins Twitter feed real quick.
Ryan, you can do without sound and we'll kind of talk through
it. I think there's a mindset of you
brought this on yourself, you did this to yourself.
I think it's. I think it's exactly right.
So folks, if you're not watching on the Rumble Channel, what
we're seeing here is a very nice, looks like Jeep Wrangler
Unlimited. Or maybe it's a Humvee.
And it is individual wearing camouflage shorts that are above
the knee. So he's wearing kind of like the
bro shorts. He's got a white tshirt on.
He has nothing in a waistband that we can see from the video.
He's got his hands extended above his head with a baseball
hat on and he's got them far away.
He's got like kind of that classic military watch.
We're seeing it through a door and this is on the sidewalk of
like maybe a commercial building.
Looks like maybe outside of like a Home Depot type shopping
center or something, there's some pallets in the way.
And they're showing just the guy following commands, he's
pointing, he's speaking, he's engaging and we're about to see
the FBI package that's going to take this guy into Custody 123.
And here comes the fourth female coming in from the rear.
Everybody slung a rifle at low ready.
I have no idea why a fifth guy coming in an L shape and also
everyone kind of walking with just this lackadaisical
attitude. Does that make any sense to you
in a in a tactical environment? And why the hell would you
bring? Like, I just don't understand
the rifles there, George Is that.
Is there anything you can justify this sort of weirdness?
Did we lose him? I've got George showing
connection problems on my side. There he is.
And now your audio's down. So.
We can all hear him, Kyle. So we can hear him.
You just can't, Kyle. No, I can go ahead, okay.
But no this is just this is just a show of force.
You know and it there's no evidence of sound tactical
procedure here. This is just this is all for
show. There's really no really I can't
think of anything more to comment beyond that.
This is this is like you said it's cosplay.
You know I I don't I don't understand.
I don't, you know, know what the hell Director Ray is talking
about that this gives the the, you know, the average American
you know, confidence in in their law enforcement to see this kind
of overwhelming use of force here.
You know, and thank God that woman in the back, I think it's
a woman. Her gum was their rifle was at
the low ready. Right.
I I just don't like she's not in a firing position as you can
articulate like the danger there of having someone.
I used to always say this and and our producer Emeritus Phil
and I used to always talk about this and it was one of my first
statements to him. I got out on the Special
Operations team which is the. The surveillance group, which we
can talk about real quickly, about whether that is an elite
organization or not. I had one of my bosses get mad
because I said it wasn't. But my my general perspective
after leaving the FBI Academy was that if I see an FBI agent
draw a weapon, that person is the most dangerous person in the
room to me, bar none with. Is that something you could
agree with? Is that something that would
offend you? So I I I carried what was
referred to as a cinch blade because as under the Clinton
administration, I was not allowed to carry a concealed
weapon into a federal building even though I'm licensed in
Massachusetts and a host of other States and I'm a certified
firearms instructor. So I carried A cinch blade in
the same place that I would carry appendix carry.
I carry appendix carry. I have a 32 inch waistline so I
can do that. And I had an agent asked me one
time in an elevator, you know how come you carry a cinch
blade? And he said because I can't
carry a firearm, he goes, you think that's going to defend you
against the firearm? I said I can get this out and
into operation before you can get your weapon out and that
ended the conversation. I had to go through 8 hours of
psychological testing followed by an interview with a
psychologist, a psychiatrist, followed by a full lifestyle
polygraph exam all in one day. It was like almost a 14 hour day
to join the National Security Agency.
I was mortified when I found out that the FBI didn't have to go
through anything similar, yet we give guns and badges out to
these people. Yeah, a lot of them have no
business carrying weapon. I remember they actually, I
something had maybe like a 2 1/2 hour Polly or something of that
effect. And when I sat down in the
chair, they asked all these questions and then I answered
them all truthfully, including some funny stuff where they were
like, you know, if you ever, you know, committed a crime and
gotten away with it. And I'm like, yeah, I when I was
in college, I used to break into buildings and find vacant
buildings and try to creep into him and stuff.
And the guy's like, So what is that, like a misdemeanor
trespassing? And I was like, I don't know
what the charge was. I just knew it was wrong.
And I did it. You asked me if I committed
crimes. I didn't get caught.
And. And he got kind of pissed at me.
And he's like, do you ever rob a bank and get away with it?
I was like, no. He's like you ever murder
somebody and, like, nobody found out.
And like, no, he's like, you ever do a hit and run?
And somebody died. And it's like, no, I didn't do
any of those. He's like, that's what I'm
talking about. And I'm like, well, that's not
what you asked. I just answer the question as it
was written. So I did that.
And then at the end of it, you know, we go through the whole
thing. And I think they actually had me
come back and do an extra hour. And the guy goes, well, you
probably just had some like minor academic cheating or
something that that wasn't a big deal because they're trying to
still get you to to lie and say that you said something false
while you're on the Poly machine.
And I remember really specifically being very incense.
This is the kind of people that you expect to work in the
national security setting. I was so incensed when the guy
asked me if I cheated, I I decided to justify it for him.
And this is a little bit of an overshare for my audience, but I
think they'll appreciate it. I go Not only have I never
cheated. On anything academically in my
life, and I'm incense the fact that you said it, I actually
earned every single bit of a 0.75 GPA for one semester at
college. Because when I went into a test
and I didn't even know that the class was having a midterm that
day, I still wouldn't look at anybody else's answers because I
thought I was smarter than they were.
And my my guess is we're going to be as good as anybody else's.
It turned out that I actually passed the the midterm.
I just skipped the the final on accident, so I ended up getting
a D in the class. It doesn't work out real well,
but I I got a terrible GPA all on my own because I actually
believe in my own work. And it's like I maybe it's
arrogance, maybe it's hubris, maybe it's just the fact that I
thought it was wrong to go and try to pull somebody else's
answers and I that would have waited on me forever.
I I just couldn't have done it. So anyway, they try to catch you
with this, but that's the closest I ever got to, you know,
a real invasive look into what kind of person I was.
And other than that, they went and pulled my medical records
and they talked to the psychologist I spoke to in the
Air Force when I separated. And that was it.
I mean, there was nothing there. So it's not a lot of big looks.
And then you get these people that carry guns that have never
carried one before. No, I mean it's all across
America, the lowering of standards.
I was in the gym yesterday and speaking to a guy who used to be
a trainer, teaching people how to fly helicopters.
And anyone who is a pilot knows that you have to learn how to
fly fixed wing before you can learn how to fly helicopters.
And he got out of it because they were eliminating blocks of
training that he felt it was important they were doing some
of the training online. So this is just across the board
in almost every aspect of our society, a lowering of of
standards. It's it's everywhere.
And you just talk about lowering of standards.
It's kind of talk about the the the unequal application of
standards if we can. We've seen what's been going on
to J6, guys. I think a lot of people are so
saturated with what's happened since 2020.
I want to jump back to 2017. I've got a couple videos, Video
5-6 and seven. Ryan, you can play them.
They don't need audio, but it might not hurt to hear some of
the crowd noises. Let's play video 5.
This is coming from James O'keefe's Twitter feed.
This goes back. It goes back five years now.
Almost six years maybe. And let's just play a little bit
of what was happening with the Disrupt J20 movement, and we'll
talk about that in just a second, but let's sort of video
up. And maybe if you can play Video
7 back-to-back and we'll talk about it in just a second, what
these both are and then we'll get the context with Video six
out. Thank you.
All right.
That that's probably enough to see what we're talking about
here. So that was obviously January
6th of 2021. The the insurrection and the
attack of the Capitol. Or not.
That was actually Donald Trump's inauguration, which is where a
bunch of lefty loonies tried to take over the US Capitol, the
entire area. They were on the north side of
the parade route, burning vehicles.
There's great pictures. You guys can go back and look If
you want to type in Disrupt the letter J and the number 20 on
your social media feeds with a hashtag on their #DISRUPT J20.
You'll find in fact that they burned the Secret Service
director's vehicle and his motorcade and some other things
going on there. This was, there was an awful lot
of like violent activity. I actually made a felony arrest
on that day of a guy who was attacked in the US Park Police
helicopter which I tweeted out today.
All them were let go. Do you remember Disrupt J20 as a
as a concept that was being floated in Boston at the time?
Oh, absolutely no. We had, we had weekly CT Geez,
Louise. KTTF meetings, KTTF meeting.
So we would have our partners in with us to include members of
the US Attorney's office and a lot of that street level
intelligence came up from BPD, the Boston Police Department.
So yeah, no, we we were very well aware of of these, this
desire to raise hell on on inauguration Day and and and of
course they did, they were doing the same thing that their whole
goal was to disrupt the inauguration so that it couldn't
happen. That was what they were actually
their stated goal. If you'll do video number six, I
think we've got some audio. This is undercover audio
captured by the, the OG stuff that was going on at Project
Veritas during the Trump administration.
If you want to play 6 for me, Ryan.
Our journalists also infiltrated several groups operating under
the main umbrella of Disrupt J20, like the Industrial Workers
of the World, a quasi socialist group, the Metropolitan
Anarchist Coordinating Council. And Refuse Fascism.
Our goal is to continue to help shut down.
The city and like inauguration and giant cluster.
So we're not gonna publicly announce the route, but like we
are planning a route that like will help us like jam up the
works of this thing, like lots of marching against traffic on
one way streets and stuff like that.
So we're talking about a group of people that were hoping they
could disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, which is what
we've heard was going on. And then they actually showed up
and did the thing as opposed to what we heard about on January
6th of 2021, which was that a bunch of people showed up.
Some people acted like morons. What did you say?
Stupid people acting stupidly, George.
Exactly. I said that in congressional
testimony. They said, what would you call
it, you know? And I said, yeah, I'll call it
stupid people doing stupid SHIT 100%.
So the differential was, is that the amount of prosecutions that
were run? Do you remember a big task force
set up in Boston or any of the other Northeast states running
down the people that were trying to disrupt J20?
You mean in 2017? No, absolutely not.
Why was that? How come Trump didn't use this
weaponized DOJ that he had to go after everybody?
Because it at that time, and I think it's a reasonable
approach. Between BPD and the state police
and another local law enforcement, we felt that we had
enough sources already embedded in some of these groups that we
could simply disrupt anything before it occurred.
There wasn't any effort for any kind of massive roundup or, you
know, getting FISA set up on on American citizens on their
social media accounts. There wasn't any of that.
And now in hindsight, I don't think it was because the FBI and
the DOJ were more temperate than.
I think that the mindset was more from a leadership
standpoint. Those few bad apples that I keep
on hearing about that it's like these are our peeps and that's
something that they sort of ideologically aligned with them.
I certainly saw that in Portland when I went out there and I
don't know how close you got to the the folks that were running
the show out there, if you sent any of your your Intel people to
go and do the were they calling it that, the TDY rotations
there? No, but I do have a friend of
mine who shall remain nameless, who actually still works in the
Portland office, and actually the former ASAC for CT.
I just lost his audio. Do we lose George or can you
guys hear him? No, we can hear him, OK.
Lose. There you go.
I got. You.
We lost. Kyle.
Lost you? Yeah, we're having some
connection difficulties. I'm going to have to upgrade
your your your digital fiber line that runs at your home so I
can upstream some of your thoughts more.
Well, I mean, you know, CTD is mostly focused on on, on you.
I'm not CTD. Well, maybe see me on white
supremacist the socalled white supra.
Pile, you know, now that they've had to, you know, jump in, you
know, with me they just it's it's it's straining their
bandwidth, which is disrupting our activities.
That's it. They're pulling all of it out of
there. It's sad when we think that that
like, is a it's it's mostly a joke.
But like I said, I I went and bought a gun the other day at
the store. And when I told the lady, go
ahead and just e-mail it so the FBI knows what I'm buying.
I don't need to hide it. I don't need a paper trail.
We might as well make a digital for him.
And she laughed. And I was like, that's not me
being funny. That's me being serious.
There's almost no doubt in my mind that there's a
counterintelligence investigation with me.
I've already spoken to somebody in Russia.
So that's enough. You you want to can we broadly
talk about that? I know that that CRA is actually
published out what is essentially the the gist.
And I don't know how they got it, but the gist of Appendix G
within the diog. So it's it's publicly available
now for people to see it and I'll tweet it out later today if
you're not following my Twitter feed.
But just how easy it is to open up an Intel investigation to
someone what that predicate Bart burden looks like?
Being able to fog a mirror, I mean, it really is that low.
Yeah. I mean, being an intelligence
supervisor, you know, for example, you know an
intelligence analyst cannot cite a any work done by.
Not the ADL. Who's the other one?
The SPL. CSPLC.
Exactly. So you know, I'll see an Intel
product and I'll take a look at it and I have to put my college
professor hat on then and go and start doing you know searches
for what would if it were a college paper looking for
plagiarism. And if I can find something from
the SPLC I'll, I'll I'll kick it back and and you know but the
truth of the matter is is that. Just because they're not allowed
to use public, you know, information coming from the SPLC
or other left wing organizations, you almost can't
stop them. Stop their their mind from
embracing that and and I can stop them from using that as an
actual source. The fact is that they.
They meaning the analyst and to some extent the agents.
Although my optic is not as good on them as is on the analysts,
they embrace that ideology and if they can't use it overtly,
they'll use it covertly. Yeah, most certainly.
So I think what you're getting at is that these people may go
read something from SPLC. They will internalize what that
that dialogue is and then they'll go parallel source it
through someone else using slightly different words.
And it'll be a slightly more acceptable source of
information, whether it be a college paper or something else
or some professor wrote something or speech.
And then they can go and they can basically launder that
position from SPLC or even the the Anti Defamation League or
whatever. It may be some leftist source
and the launder it into an Intel product by finding somebody else
that said it in a slightly less, you know, extreme way or
whatever it is. Yeah, exactly.
I mean, when I, when I did my briefings at NSA was in a 5I.
Forum there with the director of NSA and occasionally he would,
you know, ask the question that was not suitable for the five I
community. And I would just go out and you
know find another source somewhere that I could, you know
that I could brief, you know, it's not not that hard.
You can do it in almost any aspect of your life, whether
it's academia or in federal law enforcement.
Yeah, we used to always call that talking around the
classified material. If you can go find it open
source, you're referencing something that has been
published and, you know, makes a supposition or make some
analysis or maybe it was leaked, who knows.
But the fact is is you can source it to something other
than your classified knowledge. You go, here's some information,
hence my, my point on CRA. The Center for Renewing America
has basically said that you can open intelligence investigation
to someone who is either the target of a foreign Intel
service or who is actively working for them.
But the target part is the part where it's like, that doesn't
mean that they agreed to it. That's the thing that's so scary
for most people. You talk about fogging a mirror.
If somebody has the possibility of being interesting, and you
and I are clearly interesting to a foreign Intel service, then
that's an easy open. It's 100% like, well, they might
be, they might be. Literally.
It doesn't have to have the burden that they are or that
anyone's ever even discussed it. The fact that I got an e-mail on
Twitter from somebody or a DM on Twitter from somebody in Iran,
you know, who works for their state funded media, that's
enough. That would be plenty to
predicate. It's an easier argument to make
than a direct message to From Someone to Kyle Seraph and
saying you should talk to me. It really is that simple the
ability to fog a mirror. It's it's sad.
But I mean and and you and Steve Friend and and others have
talked about this at length since I've known you, that the
the whole intelligence apparatus there are no barriers to to
collection. It's it's a giant Roomba running
around 24/7 hoovering up all manner of information, and then
it's incentivized as to how many of those you can actually turn
into. To into a full field
investigation, what's so it's a giant Roomba that just roams the
country hoovering up everything it can.
And then some intelligence analysts, you know, with pink
hair, with a degree in International Studies from
George Washington University is going to turn it into an Intel
product and and we're off to the races.
I know she. Is that simple?
No. I know.
And I and I work with she her. I'm sorry, I said.
I worked with she her. I know who that is.
Yeah. Those those Intel analyst you're
Speaking of. The crazy thing is that's the
way that the Chinese intelligence apparatus was
described to me when I started working.
Chinese CI exactly that way. A giant vacuum cleaner that
sucks up all the possible information and then it goes and
sorts it out when they have time and bandwidth and we're doing
the same. Since you mentioned just real
brief, maybe not part of this podcast, but it's important for
your audience to know. The Chinese do suck up
everything, but they have better supercomputing capabilities and.
Since they have all the SF80 sixes, all the hotel data, all
the medical records of everybody who has a clearance, their
computers actually just delivered the sort through that
and deliver targeting packages to a case agent every day.
So the Chinese are doing the same thing, but in a far more
sophisticated and targeted fashion.
I'm going to restate what you just said, the OPM hack that
happened after I was hired. So my information is part of
that, and I know yours is as well.
The SF86 is every place you've ever lived, all the known
acquaintances in those areas, the full security package that
we put together in order to get a clearance, whether secret or
top secret. And you fill these things out
with all of your, you know, access to medical records and so
on. They put together this big
package. This is the vetting that we were
talking about earlier. This is the paper vetting.
At least the Chinese managed to hack the Office of Personnel
Management in what, 2016 or 17, we just lost, George, they they
grabbed all this. There's a Chinese for you.
They they grabbed all this stuff and they managed to get it all
sorted out and we were all basically given a three-year
subscription to LifeLock as sort of the sorry that we screwed up
your your world and sorry that we we gave access to all this
Chinese information. They just, they took it all.
They were able to like he said, break it down in a supercomputer
and they can do targeting packages that are very specific,
whereas the US is still sort of like trying to grab all this
information. They don't have that on every
American citizen, although I imagine they probably have
access to all the DoD records if they wanted, which is a lot of
us. Yeah, I'm concerned about that.
I mean the FBI is developing the capability.
SISSA certainly has the capability and then they're
partnering with Silicon Valley who absolutely has the
capability. So when we talk about you know
the the 2024 election and some of the concerns we have, you
know if, if, if big DOJ&FBI&DHS and.
HSI need to do selective targeting, the capability still
there. It may not be as sophisticated
and as well used as the Chinese, but rest assured that if if
somebody in a in a conference room deems you as legitimate
threat, that needs to be removed.
Even if it's just temporarily, let's just lock you in the DC
federal Detention facility for a couple years without any
pretrial hearing and let's just get this election over with.
Yeah, and that's something I want to We talked about some of
the the sophisticated methods of gathering intelligence.
Let's talk about something really base level.
Ryan, if you'll pull up, let me see what what topic that was.
Topic #3 for me specifically to the screenshot from Liberty
safes. I know as a gun owner, this is a
concern for you. So I'm just going to read this
right off. This is the statement made by
Liberty Safe, who is the the the manufacturer of the safe that
this guy Nathan Hughes had at his house.
We just saw his arrest and this is what they said.
On August 30th, 2023, Liberty Safe was contacted by the FBI
requesting the access code to the safe of an individual for
whom they had a warrant to search their property.
Our company policy. This scares the hell out of me
By the way. Our company policy and protocol
is to provide access to law enforcement if a warrant grants
them access to a property. After receiving the request, we
received proof of the valid warrant and then only then did
we provide them with an access code.
Liberty Safe had no knowledge of any of the details surrounding
the investigation at the time. And then it goes on with his BS
statement about how they're interested in protecting
personal property and 2nd Amendment rights and has
repeatedly denied a request for access codes without a warrant.
And they don't give out their conversations without proper
legal documentation provided by authorities.
This, to me, George, is a lot like what you were dealing with,
Warren or no. I've never heard of seeking out
a an access code and I've never heard of a private company
saying, yeah, you can have this. The fact that they retain it
scares the living hell out of me.
I have no idea why that would be the case.
Have you ever thought that that companies would give up like
codes to your personal safe? Do we lose them?
There he is. You know, that's why, you know,
when I raised the Bank of America issue, I think it was so
important is that there are no boundaries.
You know, going back to your original Ivy intrusion analysis
and and and you know, there are no boundaries to anything.
So yeah, I'll just ask them for the codes and and they'll give
them to me. So yeah, it's not Bank of
America, It's not on a grand scale.
It's not January 6th, but it's the same mindset.
Of of people thinking that they're doing their patriotic
duty and, quote, defending democracy.
Well, if you're ignorant and you don't know the Constitution in
the Bill of Rights and you don't understand that we actually live
in a constitutional Republic, then they probably actually
believe that they are doing their patriotic duty.
Pains me to say that out loud. The the irony that that they're
called liberty safes and decided to cooperate with the government
on anything. I've been on search warrants
where they were safes and the option was always the same.
It's like you can give us the code or we're going to crack the
safe. Either way, we're getting into
this and there are easy ways to get into it, which I'm about to
show some people because I think it's relevant for for gun owners
to know and for people that want to protect their valuable
property. Your residential safety
container is only as safe as as basically your access to the
property you want to go. Ahead one more point, we going
back to what you were when you show that video from the Hodge
twins on that takedown. But and in my analysis regarding
the Hogan's Alley and the FBI Academy, the reason they want to
get access to the safe is for the safety of the agent.
And I said that that was paramount and I saw that and
evidence in the training. That's why they want to do this.
This is this is not about executing a safe arrest warrant
with, you know, with no loss of life and minimal damage.
This is about protecting the safety of the agent.
You think it's because they want to make sure that there are no
guns that are even even secured guns on the property.
That's what it's about. I know that's what it's about
because I couldn't figure it out in my heart.
I couldn't figure it out what in the hell they need to get in
there for. For a misdemeanor charge where
he threw his elbow in the direction of a shield of a
police officers what they alleged.
Yeah. No, we did this for our
takedowns. You know, does that person have
a gun license? Has there been any firearms
charges related to this person there?
Is there anybody in his family that has a gun license?
This is all part of FBI Agent Safety.
Now we can have that discussion of what the level of safety
should be. I come down because I have put
my life at risk multiple times, obviously not in the law
enforcement role, but it comes down to a mitigated risk.
And what they're saying is, is that we're going to eliminate
person's constitutional protections in favor of 100%
agent safety, which is horrific. I think I want to do an entire
show on that with you and Stephen Garrett and maybe we'll
get some other cops from the local level about the risk
they're willing to assume and the presence of firearms.
I think the the, I think the federal government in general
trains agents to be looking at firearms as like in the same way
they do serial numbers. My my buddy Steve Stambolia,
who's who we call the machine gun lawyer and he's going to
come back on. He's made arguments in court
that the reason that the government thinks that there
should be a serial number is for tracking in the case of a gun
crime. But that presupposes that every
gun will be used in a crime. And he's made a successful
argument right now in front of the the Dallas District Court,
the the I think the eastern, the Northern District of Texas.
And stating that that this is a a false assumption that a very,
very small fraction of 1% of guns, like it's like a 10th of a
percent of guns are actually used in crimes.
And to make every single one of them presupposed against the
odds that they will be used in a crime is sort of indicative of
the government's position, which is that guns are dangerous MK
and they're bad MK and they rather side with a David Hogg.
Then what the actual constitution says, which is why
these these boundaries that we have these green barriers in the
garden. Are so important, you have to
have them. But I think it starts with
speech. I'd rather not get to a Second
Amendment situation, but the government needs to respect it
as well and it doesn't. Now, and one more thing.
You talked about the serial numbers ghost guns.
The number of ghost guns. You put that in air quotes for
me. Yeah.
I can't take it. It's not a serious thing for
anyone who's manufactured a gun. It's, it's.
I can walk over to my safe right now and pulling out that I've
made myself and you know, and I would never carry it.
I would never carry the so-called ghost gun over a
commercially manufactured firearm because the tolerances
are not right. And so it's it's fun to shoot.
It's a cool project. It's a neat hobby gun.
There's nothing wrong with having it.
There's American tradition behind it.
But the idea that you would carry like a milled lower
receiver on a handgun that that you milled is that's a crazy
person that wants to do that if that's what your only method of
protection is. Cuz I guarantee you my Glock and
my Sig are going to be a lot more reliable and they've been
proven. I've proven that thing is not,
you know it doesn't always fire right?
Not the way I want to. Look, I, one of my analysts
wrote a paper intelligence bolts in on ghost guns.
You know as much as I didn't want to you know let it go
forward, you know, but I got the least got the language changed
to the point or tightened it up that in terms of crimes it and
and even suicides. The number of occurrences is
almost immeasurable. It's like a half a dozen places
to the right of the decimal point, right?
It's I mean it's just it's a boogeyman in the same way the
AR50. Is boogie man when you talk
about the number of deaths in this country, all right?
We talked about the residential safety containers most safe that
you guys are having these Liberty, Liberty safes and
others these quote UN quote gun safes.
The word safe is actually not it actually is a legal term.
These things are legally referred to as residential
safety containers. I'm going to show you a couple
videos right now. I want you to understand why it
is an illusion, why it is so easy for law enforcement to
enter and why you don't need to go and have the the company like
Liberty break their trust with you.
We've got let's do video #1I. I'm saying Liberty Safe is the
new Bud Light because they've named themselves something that
is supposed to be for Americans and patriots who want to protect
their liberties and yet they're going to roll over for the FBI.
This is how easy it is to get into one of these safes if
somebody is so serious and has control of the situation the way
a law enforcement entity does. Video one, if you'll roll it.
Ryan, I can't remember for running this with or without
audio, but we've come to Liberty Safe to give you some
information on what they look for when you're buying an entry
level safe. We're here with Jamie Scounson
from Liberty Safe. Jamie, tell me about it.
All right, let's skip forward a little bit until they start
doing the prior attacks. If you can okay they're between
5:00 and $600.00. Okay.
Well, we stop and give me one. 2nd is to put them to the test
on a pride test to see how strong they are.
Yeah, pride test. You know, that makes sense
because OK, so this is the pry test.
They give these guys 5 minutes to pry it open.
It's two men with pry bars. We probably don't even need the
audio, but they managed to crack the first set of bolts. 12
seconds at 12 seconds. So you're seeing this pop open.
Basically, these guys have two man pry bar.
One guy opens up the space, the other guy gets into the door.
These are actually easier if they're bolted to the ground.
It's harder the way they're doing it because they don't have
a stable base to brace against. But you can pop these things
open with pry bars in under 30 seconds.
You'll see these guys do it in about 39 seconds.
This is a stack on from the look of it.
I had one just like it. They're very heavy.
There's they're hundreds of pounds.
Most of that weight is actually going to be in commercial
drywall which is a fire retardant.
That's why they have them in there.
It's very, very thin steel in the in the realm of like 18,
maybe 14 gauge at the highest they pop it open in 39 seconds
if you're watching the video. So you can see two guys with
with crowbars on a non secured surface we'll we'll kind of
watch forward. Once again these things are all
in the four to $600.00 range. You can buy these at any kind of
a sporting goods store. The Liberty Hill one are the the
Liberty safe is is a little bit longer on their attack because
it's got better bars but that assumes A frontal attack that
you're going to go in and try and pry the doors open so you'll
show this one they'll pop this thing open in like 10 or 12
seconds. I think it's just a matter of
getting your attack done. So this is your smash and grab
job. This is keeping honest people
honest when we talk about the way a safe would work.
And if you guys have never seen this done before and you have
some illusion that this heavy safe that you've been moving
around or one of your buddies has a safe there, you got 21
seconds popped right open. That one looks just like they
all look the same. They're all like stack on style.
Let's do video #2 because video #2.
And I think we have to start a little bit late in the video
it's at 935 Ryan if you'll do it.
This is a video that is shown of a of a liberty safe actually
cracking open. We can run a couple of minutes
on the pry bar here, but it's it's just the same thing.
It's just dudes, you know, doing a pry bar attack on slightly
better bars. Let's let's switch over to video
#2 if you would. And they say they and they said
they didn't get into the Liberty safe.
They had two minutes here on this one and they couldn't get
into it, correct. And I got the next video ready.
Yeah, let's do the next video. So, folks, you can see Liberty
Safe is supposed to be slightly better on a pry attack, which
means they're going through the door.
But here's how you actually get into one of these things.
Do video #2 for me. I don't think we need sound
either. Give.
Me one second. I just got to kill the sound, be
playing it. No problem.
Okay. So this one is not a liberty.
This is actually going to be a Winchester safe.
They're pretty much the same. The same idea.
And this is a company that I've actually bought safes from.
I have no money invested in them.
They don't pay us anything. But this is a guy who works for
a company called Secure it and his point is, is you can spend
these hundreds of dollars on these fancy extremely heavy.
You know I've actually moved one down to my basement one time in
Virginia. George and I, I'm one of my
buddies almost lost his thumb, you know, pounding against the
wall. He was a Marine, so I think he
would have been okay. But he we had this thing kind of
get away from us going down the stairs.
And you're noticing this guy's basically just got a basic
corded circular saw and a carbide bit and he's about to
just throw this thing off. And you're seeing it in real
time, like in the time that I've spoken, started speaking to you.
He's able to cut the top off these things because this the
steel is such thin gauge there's almost nothing there and it's
really really quite easy of it other than he's getting a face
load of of dust coming out of the drywall but you're going to
see him pop. This thing opens like a soda pop
can and here it is just just man strength alone is able to be
able to pull that thing open. That should kind of unsettle you
and it should tell you that the idea that that the the safe
company needs to comply with with the FBI or have have the
codes ready in case of this is really, really disturbing.
The fact that they keep track of the sort of thing you're just
seeing this guy basically turn it around.
Video #3 has a similar thing. I think they actually attack a
Liberty branded safe although they they block it out.
You can show video 32. You don't need any sound on that
either, Ryan. And it does take a little bit
longer to do an attack but what he's doing here at this is a an
angle grinder. He's just got a little cutting
wheel and he's going to do a a sidewall attack on this on this
safe. This is a Liberty branded safe.
It's got the really nice looking lock again, very heavy and and
has a fireproof rating which is sort of useless and nonsensical.
You can see the brand for secure it up in the corner there but
he's just doing this. You can do this with a hand
tool. I've got DeWalt tools that will
do this. This one takes probably 15 to 20
minutes to do. So once again, you're keeping
honest people honest but this is this is how you get into a safe
if you need to and if it takes 20 minutes to cut open there's
no real danger of somebody accessing it without the code if
nobody's nearby. It's not like that guns going to
jump out and shoot anybody. George, you guys ever cut it
safe? Kyle, is it safe to do that with
like, ammo in there? No, not at all.
With that? Those sparks ever set off a
bullet? Because you'll see in a second
he's going to pull it open. And what you'll see is there's
an entire layer of drywall this guy's about to pull open, a
Liberty safe, which are thousands of dollars.
Boom. He just pulls it open right
there. And what you see is literally
regular commercial drywall with the, you know, with the backer
board there and that interior board there is all just carpet
and upholstery that makes it look pretty.
It also is a carcinogen. It's also really bad for your
guns. But that's neither here nor
there. It can, it can corrode older and
antique firearms, but he literally just pried it open
like that. And, you know, so the idea that
they would comply in the same way and just hand over codes,
it's scary to me that they actually keep a list of codes
more than anything else. Have you ever seen videos like
that, George? No, I haven't.
But the profit margin on those must be awesome because I don't
see a lot of material or engineering going into that.
No, it's all in the doors. So I actually moved my safe when
I was in Virginia down these basement stairs.
I'll never do it again. And I what I realized is I had a
big stack on. It was like a 30 gun safe or
something like that. The door itself probably weighed
200 pounds. It was a two man lift on its
own. The rest of the residential
container I could pick up with my with my two hands and it was
80 or 90 pounds tops. It was it was gawky and weird
but the almost all the weight in those safes you'll find her in
the doors which is why if you ever open one of those safes up
and they're not bolted to the ground they will fall over on
you. And so you'll see if you go into
a store and and I'm just giving this as information for folks to
have it. I think you guys should be
relevant like aware of what it is you're spending your money on
and this is one of those products where one law
enforcement apparently can get codes from Liberty.
So that's scary. And I think that if you're
you're in the market for a safe, that is not a good company to
deal with. But moreover, if they need to
get into it, they're going to get into it.
Like just the same way I had a search warrant that was served
on my Airstream when I was in the Air Force and they basically
gave me the same option. You can give us the keys or we
can cut off the door. And when you have a vintage
197131 foot land yacht and you don't want them cutting off the
door, you give them the keys because they show you the
warrant and they go we have access to the property.
We'll get in one way or another. And so you just go, yeah, please
don't break my my Airstream. I'd rather you just go in and
search for whatever you need. That's how you do it.
If you can afford it and you have the space, you're better
off with a dedicated room in the basement with concrete walls and
just buying a safe door for it. There is a group that's called
Secure It. Like I said that I have their
their lighter version because it's just it's keeping honest
people honest. Keeps my kids out of it.
But they offer what's called a true safe and it actually has a
layer, a layer of steel on the inside that is surrounded by a
layer of concrete which you can cut, but you need a different
bit. And then it has steel on the
outside as well. They're heavy as hell.
You have to have professional installation.
But once you put it in, it's multiple levels and multiple
bits and the amount of time it would take to attack is very
similar to what you said, a secured room that is steel and
and concrete reinforced and you know that's that's how you do
it. If you're serious or you buy a
liberty and let the FBI get your code, take a pick, I guess.
Yeah, I mean, look, either Liberty gives the FBI code the
code, or else they're going to show up with an 84 or an RPG or
or or some heavy explosives. I mean, choose your poison.
Choose your poison. Compliance with the government,
folks. The idea is that we stay away
from this thing. I want to do one video and then
we're going to talk about the Marxist lesbian and then we'll
shut this thing down and go a little long today.
But I I always like talking to George, and I can talk to George
for like 30 minutes upfront and it would just just go away into
the ether. As far as time goes, Let's watch
this video. It's video #8.
Somebody sent me this, an ATF agent who's a friend of mine,
retired. He's actually one of the good
guys sent this to me. It's one of the funniest videos
I've seen. We're going to talk a little bit
about psyops because I know you worked in the information space
and you've worked. This is kind of, this is a
lighthearted take on it folks. There's a little bit of colorful
language in there. So if you want to shield this
from work or if you need a shield from kids, be aware.
But video at #8, it's about two minutes.
And it it's some of the funniest 2 minutes of memes that Ryan and
I have seen in a while. So a little bit of lighthearted
stuff about psyops. The absolute best?
Get ready. Hello, I'm from the US
government. Does something feel wrong in the
world? But you can't put your finger on
it? Are you yearning to fight
injustice and be part of something bigger?
Do you do your own research? If so, you've been chosen to
participate in our new PSYOP Q Anon.
Psyops are usually carried out by our intelligence agencies and
countries we've invaded, or whose governments we've
overthrown in order to convince the local population that we're
there to help them. Q Anon is just like that, except
the target isn't a foreign population.
It's you and the government we're planning to overthrow is
follow the White Rabbit. At the heart of this psyop is
cute, a government insider who will give you advance warning
about major events like the arrest of Hillary and Deep State
leaders which never happened, and the end of the Democratic
Party in 2018, who actually went on to win the house that year.
And if years of fake predictions start to get you down, don't
worry, trust the plan. The best part of this psyop is
you'll believe you're in a psyop.
Except that's not the psyop. Your action.
In but the Sigh up where we let you think you're in a sigh up
sigh up section of Q Proof. Joining Q Anon is easy, because
at its core, there are some truths.
Like the media really does lie to you.
There really are powerful predators out there, and there
really is a global pedophile ring that richly abuses kids.
But as you follow Q's droppings, you'll gradually larp yourself
deep into the rabbit's rectum, where you'll find others who
yearn to fight injustice just like you.
The 5G crypt. The plan, Democrat, FEMA Camps
and Chemtrail folks, too. All larked together into a
single larp we can control where we lark one.
We lark all in exchange for all this entertainment and you found
sense of purpose. All we ask for in return is your
help. No you fucking idiots, not to
arrest Hillary. You is convinced.
Patriots. Even the guy who spent decades
warning you about. That martial law is now a good
thing. What's that?
When do we take down the deep state?
Ah, honey, the guy who exposed the real deep state is being
tortured by it right now. And where are you?
Oh, that's right. Q told you to trust the plan and
have a big circle jerk on Aiken the great O Anconing.
And that's the purpose of Q Anon to convince those who would
normally be on the frontline of fighting our shit fuckery to sit
by and watch as we prosecute your truth tellers, spurge your
justice system, and rat fuck this election.
Q Anon nothing can stop. What's coming?
Because you'll be sitting on your ass when it does.
I just there's some stuff in there that I don't agree with
100% obviously. But just the idea of taking
taking people out of the out of the game, taking them off the
board by getting them into these like weird rabbit holes I think.
Plus the way that it's. Delivered is so good.
That's what the CIA does, and I've been used by the CIA more
than once. But they will spin an op at
this. Think about like an old school
33RPM record. There will be an op at the
center, but the difference with this record is is that it spins
in different directions and they will spin an op within an op
within an op and to the point where they actually will send
out emails. So their entire workforce as as
part of that outer ring of that first part of an operation
because it gives it gives your validation checks when people
like kind of cursory, you know, touch it or something.
Yeah, I mean it's so, you know there's there's a long history
of intelligence services doing this to nations.
I mean we saw the Green Revolution in the Czech Republic
or without the Orange Revolution, I can't remember.
It was a green revolution in Iran that failed.
But no, we're we're we're getting played and and some of
it is our of our own doing. You know, like when you hear
people say, ooh, I could better watch what I say because the FBI
might hear me. You know, some of us are of our
own doing. We got stupid people behaving
stupidly. But some of it is legit.
There is an operation, a sigh operation going on to divert
people's attention from other more important matters.
I'm going to redirect people to to watch yesterday's episode if
they haven't seen it yet. The the idea of idolatry goes
deep into this in a lot of ways. For me, it's the idea that some
person is coming to save you and that person is not a salvific
God. It's a cue.
It's a Donald Trump. It's a white hats.
It's a take your pick. Those are all kind of fantasy
ideas in my experience. And and if you think that you
found the solution, by the way, if you don't have access to
everything that the United States government is doing,
which is basically nobody, I don't think anybody has all that
access, you're not going to uncover the secret plan on your
own and then be able to brag about it on the Internet that
that's not a real thing. So whenever you go out there and
and and actually Bad Religion, which was a punk rock band that
I love, I absolutely love them. They seem like the most
irreverent guys and they almost always have really pointed
social commentary. He said there's there's a song
they have called the answer and they said if somebody comes to
you and says, I have the answer, like that person is yet another
fraud. And he goes through a whole list
of people that have, quote, UN quote, the answer, you know.
No. This is why when I teach
college, you know I stress critical and iterative thinking
that without that skill set, you're going to get played.
You're going to get worked real easy.
It's so true. Will you?
We had kind of a thought experiment.
This is not saying that this is what's happening.
This is saying what is possible about Patriot Front.
You and I kind of were were riffing on this the other day
and I'd love to share with people because I know people
have questions about how these things could be done and what's
the plausibility of it. Maybe you could share that based
on your some of your experience on there, what this would look
like, who would be running it if if possible or how it would be
run, because I really found that fascinating.
So having come from from the intelligence community before
the FBI, which? Is a larper.
They consider themselves part of the intelligence community.
But this is the Patriot fun thing.
If I were going to do it, this is how I would do it, which is I
would bring a former, ideally SF in a Ranger seal, somebody who
thinks very highly of themselves into HSI headquarters and up to
the nicest conference room we had outside the executive suite.
And I tell them they're being considered for a senior
executive position. And their response, Their job
is, is to recruit people, to have them dress up.
You know, I'd lay out some some basic op plan, have them dress
up, have them, you know, coordinate for them to show up
at a certain area in time, March around, and then disappear.
But that person then would in turn tell each one of those
people he would recruit from a pool of people who have already
applied for various positions within.
Either federal law enforcement or the intelligence community
and say, hey, you're being considered for a position, We're
running an operation here in the United States.
I can't tell you anything about it, but we're going to create
what's called a bigot list. And and and if you're not on
that list, you know, it makes them feel very exclusive and
very important, you know. And at the end of the day, you
can either terminate the operation by telling all these
people that they didn't make the cut.
Or you can hire some of them into the organization to include
the person you bring in to run it and, you know, tell them, you
know, this was a compartmentalized program.
Anyone on that's not on this bigot list, you're not
authorized to discuss it with them.
And oh, by the way, 90% of the people that were involved have
have been declined employment. It's a real easy thing to run.
I know because we've ran them, but.
Not else. Not inside the United States,
but the capability to do that sort of operation.
It you're you're playing on a couple of basic human emotions.
The exclusivity of it, people's want or need to be something,
you know kind of elite people who don't have the capability of
being within the structure, but they they would love to.
And so you exploit that. There's a lot of just basic
human exploitation that goes on and and then you run it and you
tell them how exclusive and elite it is and you know you can
never talk to anybody about it. These are they become
unfalsifiable too, for the people that believe in it too,
because it's like they believe that it's legit and you could
never tell him otherwise because they heard it from a source that
they trust and they were, they were quote UN quote recruited.
These things have been going on for a very long time, obviously
in other places. Yeah.
No. And I used HSI in my example
because they're unconstrained. They don't report to the DOJ and
they don't have a diogue, which is we just lose George.
There you go, folks. This is how it happens.
George has got a bad connection there, I think.
I think that's the case. It's.
The deep state, that's the other possibility, right.
We always like to go in there. I want to cut that piece out,
Ryan and I want to share it with people is just a standalone
video too and George may join us in Hindi at the end.
But the last thing I did want to pivot towards and talk about if
we can is topic #8 and we'll get George in the way on that.
George, I do appreciate that analysis.
I think it's I think it's really, really relevant and this
could be a sign up. We're going to talk about the
last little piece here, kind of wrap the sucker up, but this is.
Probably just the way that the the state of affairs in America
right now. Our our topic #8 was coming from
Catholic Vote. It's coming from the Loop this
morning and it's a discussion about how the American Library
Association president is a selfproclaimed Marxist lesbian.
Do you want to pop that sucker up there, Ryan?
We can just look at the look at the main piece.
So there you go folks. You can go and see it in
Catholic Votes news feed today. If you're not getting the loop,
this is what you're missing out on.
And there she was out there basically saying in no uncertain
terms by the way, that she thought that they should be
using these as recruiting grounds for socialists, that she
has a sub stack that she runs which is called actively unwoke,
and that she's trying to create the largest socialist confidence
in the country. She wanted to be in a speaker
initially, but then they just went out there and she's been
kind of quietly canceling these things off so that she can kind
of get away with it. But they're out there pushing an
agenda in the libraries of all places.
Which used to be a place where you would go and get things
like, I don't know, literature and understand about America.
Where you could go learn about that myth of edetic
possibilities and the romantic writers of the early American,
the early American country and and figure out what this, you
know, what the century was all about, what it meant to them in.
In the meantime now they're taking this in their weaponizing
it because it's a place that was available.
And you know it used to be the old ladies who probably were
probably had a Betsy Ross flag that they'd so themselves used
to be the librarians. And now we have these like young
culturally Marxist lesbians that are out there trying to convert
your kids into to to hate this country, which is shocking.
And like I said, psyop or otherwise, it's still scary
stuff. So we've seen the video of
people being videos, plural, of people being.
Escorted by armed, uniformed police officers out of school
board meetings for reading excerpts from books and that
were outright pornographic that are being used in schools.
And that's the only way to fight.
This is for parents to, you know, go to the children's
section of the library to to be aware of changes that are being
made. The the problem would be with
being conservative and wanting to conserve American values is
that we have jobs. And and responsibilities.
And unfortunately the left, all they want to do is, is is tear
everything down. So without eternal vigilance
from people with some sort of religious background that
believe in a higher power, that believe in the Constitution and
the Bill of Rights, without us actively looking at what these
people are doing to include this head of the library association.
And school boards, they're going to keep on getting away with it
and it just takes eternal vigilance.
And they're not going to stop. Therefore, neither can we.
No. And the sad thing is, and I had
a discussion with people about this the other day, it's part of
it is the fact that we have jobs and we have things that we got
to do with our day and we have children and we are actually in,
you know, being productive members of society.
And the other half is that by being a conservative, your goal
is always defensive. It is conserving the things that
exist that are good. And so that is a defensive
posture as opposed to the aggressive posture that the
political left has had, that we call them progressive for a
reason. Their movement is always
forward. It doesn't even have to agree
with itself. They have these irrational
positions on on many different bases, right?
We can think about it. They think the government is
bad, infringing on black people, but they also think that nobody
should own a gun, which would be your primary method of resisting
a government. And they also think that the you
know that the climate should be respected and the government
needs to be the one that does that.
So they have all these illogical beliefs that sort of batter
against each other, but they fight on all fronts in an always
aggressive, forward moving, progressive attempting to gain
ground. And conservatives are just
fighting on all sides, trying to maintain the thing that's in the
middle. When you're when you're
defensive, you're always going to be on the back foot.
You have to be. Yeah.
And it's and we can never let up because they're not going to let
up. And when you ask these
progressive what are they progressing forward to, they
can't answer that question, of course not.
It's just we're progressing. So the process with a
progressive is the goal, kind of like how they use the legal
system. The process is the punishment.
You know, we actually have a goal, which is to preserve the
the founding principles of the country, the Constitution and
the Bill of Rights, and to preserve American sovereignty.
We actually have a goal. Their goal is just chaos.
They're they're, they really should call themselves what they
are. They're anarchist.
All they want to do is tear down, and once they've torn it
down, then they can progress towards a little bit of order
that they can tear down again. It's just, you know, cycle of
insanity. Unfortunately, and like I said,
the ideas don't have to agree with each other.
I think that neatly shows it up with our original basis on the
on the unkempt and overgrown garden, which is to say that
conservatives are attempting to maintain those boundaries.
Be a person on the wall. You have to be a person on the
wall. That means you're speaking
freely, you're speaking your mind, you're defending your
positions intelligently and you're doing so without violence
and you're not buying a liberty safe so that the FBI can easily
get into your gun safe. That's one of the pieces.
But we just, we all have to maintain those boundaries.
Otherwise we do get a garden that's overgrown.
And if you've ever seen the difference between a well kept
garden and a garden that has gone to to pot and and to to
seed, it's not very cool to walk through when they're stickers
and brambles and weeds, it's a lot nicer to go through the
manicured garden. Even leftist love a manicured
garden. They just don't know what
they're fighting against when they're out there trying to
fight these these barriers and boundaries.
So we can, we can only advocate that position and everybody's
got to take the spot on the wall.
Yeah, I mean and when you weed that garden, there are lawn and
leaf bags that have to get taken to the curb and thrown into the
landfill. That is a dark way to to add to
my metaphor. But you're, I think you're
exactly correct. George, thank you for for
joining me this morning. Thanks for stepping on there.
Sorry about our Internet connection issues, whether it's
deep state or just a failure to have solid infrastructure, maybe
some of that build back better money is going to get your
Internet faster. What do you?
Think it wasn't a Coast Guard helicopter?
So this is really pretty low. On that front, it's pretty low
on the the interruption scale for us.
Thanks for for jumping in last minute with me to talk about
this. I think that that that piece
about Patriot front door or a seated operation like that will
be very interesting to folks and that's a value to be out there
and have your experience, people can follow you at Senior Chief
EXW and your truth handle. What's your truth handle?
I think it's jarhead, George. I think it is too, because I
think I tagged you this morning. Yeah, I tried to, you know, mix
it up. I mean, having lived, you know,
two lives, just real briefly, I had to get out of the Marine
Corps because of a personal situation and try to go back in
after the world was at peace. And the only people that would
give me a chance was the Navy. And so I took it and I had great
times at both organizations, although the darkness primarily
comes from my Marine Corps service.
That's why we get along too, though, folks.
Just a little bit of inside ball.
When George and I were talking the other day, I said something
like, my mother thinks I'm the angriest person she's ever met.
And George said, give it 15 years and get back to me.
He's like, you got a long ways to go.
So I very much appreciate someone that thinks that they're
angrier than I am. At least it puts me in
perspective for the world. It also gives me a goal.
Everybody should. You'd have a goal in life,
right? Amen.
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