1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,000 Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower, an 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 American patriot. Prepare to embrace the 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,880 uncomfortable truth, because this program has no time for 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 comforting lies. Here is civil liberties 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,240 enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,580 agent Kyle Seraf. Hello my friends. 7 00:00:22,580 --> 00:00:23,940 Welcome to the Kyle Seraphin Show. 8 00:00:23,940 --> 00:00:25,460 You can see behind the scenes there. 9 00:00:25,460 --> 00:00:27,580 I think I just freaked out Ryan Matta. 10 00:00:27,660 --> 00:00:31,060 He did not know that the camera was going to do a hard reboot 11 00:00:31,060 --> 00:00:32,820 and I was going to have to restart my system. 12 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:36,060 Today is Wednesday, It is September the 6th and you are 13 00:00:36,060 --> 00:00:38,180 watching the Kyle Seraphin Show streamed live from Liberty Hill, 14 00:00:38,180 --> 00:00:40,020 TX. Got a guest with me today. 15 00:00:40,300 --> 00:00:42,020 A good friend of ours, suspendable. 16 00:00:42,020 --> 00:00:44,380 George Hill. You will remember George Hill if 17 00:00:44,380 --> 00:00:48,210 you have seen the scandal the FBI got involved in by sharing 18 00:00:48,210 --> 00:00:50,770 information, or rather Bank of America shared information with 19 00:00:50,770 --> 00:00:53,330 the FBI and he outed that he came forward. 20 00:00:53,530 --> 00:00:55,450 Even though he was a retired guy that didn't need to get 21 00:00:55,450 --> 00:00:58,370 involved, he still felt that it was his duty and obligation as 22 00:00:58,370 --> 00:01:00,410 an American citizen who wants to live in a free country. 23 00:01:00,690 --> 00:01:02,530 So we've got George on. We're going to talk a little bit 24 00:01:02,530 --> 00:01:04,610 about some of the stuff that's been going on in the news today. 25 00:01:04,849 --> 00:01:10,060 Kind of our take on my metaphor, the overgrown garden, and we'll 26 00:01:10,060 --> 00:01:11,620 do a long discussion, I think, on that. 27 00:01:11,620 --> 00:01:13,700 And that's going to be probably the meat of what today's show 28 00:01:13,700 --> 00:01:15,340 is. Before we get too started and 29 00:01:15,380 --> 00:01:18,020 too far away from what what I want to cover. 30 00:01:18,060 --> 00:01:20,380 I want to start with a thanks to my friends over at Catholic 31 00:01:20,380 --> 00:01:22,540 Vote. So if you all will bear with me 32 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:25,260 here, these are our friends at Catholic Vote, America's top 33 00:01:25,260 --> 00:01:27,900 Catholic advocacy organization in the fight for faith, freedom 34 00:01:28,340 --> 00:01:30,800 and family. Great place. 35 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,240 Get the get the e-mail and here's the loop right here. 36 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,160 I've got the Loop on my phone. I'm going to open it up right 37 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:36,400 now because I already took a look at it today. 38 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,800 We've got a story from the Loop that we're going to discuss. 39 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,160 George and I will kind of riff on the number one story is 40 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,400 Democrats calling on Democrats to primary Biden. 41 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:45,880 That's not a shock. That should be definitely 42 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:47,800 happening. Democrats confronting Biden over 43 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,680 his migration crisis. About time. 44 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,720 Welcome to the party and what we'll be talking about a little 45 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,360 bit later. The American Library Association 46 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:00,820 president is a socalled lesbian Marxist selfproclaimed, and she 47 00:02:00,820 --> 00:02:04,660 thinks that library should be recruiting zones for leftist and 48 00:02:04,660 --> 00:02:06,900 socialist organizing. That sounds wonderful. 49 00:02:06,900 --> 00:02:08,539 That's what we that's what we really like to hear. 50 00:02:08,620 --> 00:02:10,380 In fact, we did talk a little bit about that with Tiffany 51 00:02:10,380 --> 00:02:12,180 Justice. If you guys recall our episode 52 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,300 with Moms for Liberty. So there is that. 53 00:02:14,620 --> 00:02:17,300 The Biden team struggling to support, I'm sorry, denying 54 00:02:17,300 --> 00:02:19,260 support to struggling parents, of course. 55 00:02:19,300 --> 00:02:21,500 What would you expect? And a couple of other little 56 00:02:21,500 --> 00:02:23,660 pieces on here like a novena if you're into praying if you're a 57 00:02:23,660 --> 00:02:25,460 Catholic. Some stuff going on in Loudon 58 00:02:25,460 --> 00:02:28,820 County which is just outside of the Washington DC little circle 59 00:02:29,230 --> 00:02:33,110 and an analysis The FBI under under counts the good guys with 60 00:02:33,110 --> 00:02:35,590 gun situation which that is definitely going to be worth 61 00:02:35,590 --> 00:02:36,750 your read. I've already read what it's 62 00:02:36,750 --> 00:02:38,790 about and I think you guys would like that article so check out 63 00:02:38,790 --> 00:02:41,750 Catholic vote by all means definitely do that And if you're 64 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:45,390 doing that you can also check into our friends over at Patriot 65 00:02:45,390 --> 00:02:46,830 coolers. I don't know what happened to my 66 00:02:46,950 --> 00:02:49,510 little my little bubble here. 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So check into those. 75 00:03:08,630 --> 00:03:09,750 We have them at the Seraphin house. 76 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:12,070 I actually have one of their one gallon jugs that I'm a big fan 77 00:03:12,070 --> 00:03:16,350 of and that we carried around in the minivan to hydrate the three 78 00:03:16,350 --> 00:03:19,630 kids who inevitably have either forgotten or lost a water 79 00:03:19,630 --> 00:03:20,870 bottle. That's not a surprise to you. 80 00:03:21,150 --> 00:03:23,990 Big thanks to our friend Eric Jason in the chat, our moderator 81 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:27,050 who is hit a another Rumble rant saying smash the like button 82 00:03:27,050 --> 00:03:29,770 folks, if you have time and you are watching us on Rumble make 83 00:03:29,770 --> 00:03:32,970 sure that rumble thumbs up is green showing that you did like 84 00:03:32,970 --> 00:03:35,570 the video whenever something that tickles your fancy. 85 00:03:35,570 --> 00:03:37,090 We do appreciate that. All right. 86 00:03:37,090 --> 00:03:40,450 Without too much further ado, want to bring on there he is the 87 00:03:40,450 --> 00:03:42,290 man, the myth, the legend in many ways. 88 00:03:42,530 --> 00:03:45,010 George, I wanted to get into a little funny story about how you 89 00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:48,810 and I first connected because I felt like it was the it's the 90 00:03:48,810 --> 00:03:52,450 standard for the way guys like you and I should should make 91 00:03:52,450 --> 00:03:55,710 contact with each other. Well, we have no video or we no 92 00:03:55,710 --> 00:03:58,310 audio from you. Is it there? 93 00:03:58,390 --> 00:03:58,990 Is it? Who? 94 00:03:59,590 --> 00:04:00,910 He's got audio and video on both. 95 00:04:01,030 --> 00:04:04,630 Okay George, Can you hear me? I just can't hear George. 96 00:04:06,870 --> 00:04:09,710 Give me one second, Kyle. If you can't hear him, hold on. 97 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:11,750 Okay, it says. Connection problems on my end, 98 00:04:11,750 --> 00:04:14,860 whatever that means, and maybe he can't hear me. 99 00:04:14,860 --> 00:04:16,140 Oh, I don't. I don't know, Kyle. 100 00:04:16,140 --> 00:04:19,779 I can hear both of them, and I got his audio, but give me one 101 00:04:19,779 --> 00:04:21,500 more second. I guess this is the fun of a 102 00:04:21,500 --> 00:04:23,460 live show, folks. Bear with us just one moment and 103 00:04:23,460 --> 00:04:24,860 we'll get George where we can both hear him. 104 00:04:29,060 --> 00:04:31,100 How about now, Kyle? I don't know. 105 00:04:31,100 --> 00:04:33,860 George, can you hear me? Nope. 106 00:04:33,860 --> 00:04:36,660 George can't hear me. There's something. 107 00:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,740 Bomber guys, do you want to have him dial back in real quick? 108 00:04:41,020 --> 00:04:42,460 Yeah, maybe could jump out and come back in. 109 00:04:42,460 --> 00:04:45,300 Yeah, if you jump out and come back in, George, the folks in 110 00:04:45,300 --> 00:04:47,060 the chat are saying they can hear both of us, but we can't 111 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:49,180 hear each other. So that's going to be a weird 112 00:04:49,380 --> 00:04:50,700 talk pass conversation. Yeah. 113 00:04:50,700 --> 00:04:53,340 George, if you'll bail out of the the show and come on back 114 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:56,420 in, we'll we'll get you connected and I'll keep the warm 115 00:04:56,420 --> 00:04:58,980 intro that we already did. We'll say how great he was. 116 00:04:59,510 --> 00:05:01,830 Before we do any further on that, I want to talk about just 117 00:05:01,830 --> 00:05:03,630 kind of the the quick things that we're going to discuss 118 00:05:03,630 --> 00:05:05,150 today. There's the arrest of Nathan 119 00:05:05,150 --> 00:05:06,830 Hughes. Many of you guys may have seen 120 00:05:06,830 --> 00:05:08,270 that from the Hodge twins tweeting it out. 121 00:05:08,270 --> 00:05:10,630 Said it was a friend of theirs arrested by the FBI. 122 00:05:11,430 --> 00:05:13,030 You found out I. Forgot he can't hear you. 123 00:05:13,310 --> 00:05:15,950 So, George, you have to leave. I forgot you were telling him 124 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:17,310 what to do. And he was he couldn't hear you. 125 00:05:17,350 --> 00:05:19,470 So, George, you're going to. I want you to leave and come 126 00:05:19,470 --> 00:05:21,470 back real quick. And then we think. 127 00:05:21,470 --> 00:05:21,990 Yep. There we go. 128 00:05:21,990 --> 00:05:22,670 Okay. Gotcha. 129 00:05:22,710 --> 00:05:25,030 Go fantastic. We're going to talk about some 130 00:05:25,030 --> 00:05:28,660 of the the new, the new Bud Light of the day, which I think 131 00:05:28,860 --> 00:05:31,180 George and I will both have an opinion on as gun owners. 132 00:05:31,540 --> 00:05:35,900 And of course we saw that the, the leader of the Proud Boys was 133 00:05:36,260 --> 00:05:39,180 sentenced yesterday to 22 years in prison, which I think is 134 00:05:39,180 --> 00:05:41,460 going to be unsettling for all of us to discuss. 135 00:05:41,620 --> 00:05:45,820 It is the nature of of government to continue to grow 136 00:05:45,860 --> 00:05:48,420 and to continue to overreach. I feel like we've reached sort 137 00:05:48,420 --> 00:05:51,540 of that terminal and dangerous point at this at this juncture 138 00:05:51,820 --> 00:05:54,990 in our country. And so this this particular 139 00:05:54,990 --> 00:05:57,350 episode is known as the overgrown garden. 140 00:05:57,350 --> 00:06:00,070 But we're talking about a potentially post constitutional 141 00:06:00,070 --> 00:06:01,670 America. George, have you, have you. 142 00:06:01,670 --> 00:06:04,430 Can you hear me? I can hear you fine now. 143 00:06:05,150 --> 00:06:06,790 Yeah, we've solved the problem. It might have been my hard 144 00:06:06,790 --> 00:06:11,350 reboot, so I want to. I want to dig into the the the 145 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:13,710 quick and dirty of it. But you and I when we first 146 00:06:13,710 --> 00:06:15,150 interacted you found me on Twitter. 147 00:06:15,150 --> 00:06:16,910 We didn't know each other while we work for the FBI. 148 00:06:16,910 --> 00:06:19,470 And I felt like the way that you engaged me because I get a lot 149 00:06:19,470 --> 00:06:21,630 of people reaching out and they're like hey, you know let's 150 00:06:21,630 --> 00:06:24,390 connect. And here's my crazy 15 paragraph 151 00:06:24,390 --> 00:06:25,710 blurb about why you should know me. 152 00:06:26,310 --> 00:06:28,470 And and yours was really tight when you when you reached out 153 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:32,430 you recall what you said. I do recall one sentence which 154 00:06:32,430 --> 00:06:34,910 was You have sources. Check me out. 155 00:06:35,510 --> 00:06:37,390 That's right. Because having been in this 156 00:06:37,390 --> 00:06:42,390 business for for over 4 decades. I have little time for for idle 157 00:06:42,390 --> 00:06:46,430 chat and they're just so many posers out there. 158 00:06:46,430 --> 00:06:50,750 I just don't have any time left in my life to to deal with them. 159 00:06:50,750 --> 00:06:55,510 So you know it's it's kind of like a thing born within the 160 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:57,950 developed in the Marine Corps If you're not early or late, you 161 00:06:57,950 --> 00:07:01,910 know, don't waste people's time, you know. 162 00:07:01,910 --> 00:07:05,670 So yeah, I'm not a touchy feely guy and. 163 00:07:06,450 --> 00:07:08,810 It it's it cuts both ways. Some people appreciate it. 164 00:07:08,810 --> 00:07:11,730 Other people's find it rather off putting the the thing that 165 00:07:11,730 --> 00:07:14,330 that struck me was you basically said, you know, I was in the 166 00:07:14,330 --> 00:07:16,050 Boston field office, you have sources. 167 00:07:16,290 --> 00:07:18,810 Check me out and then make connection if you want. 168 00:07:19,010 --> 00:07:21,770 And I did exactly that. It's like this is my name, this 169 00:07:21,770 --> 00:07:24,010 is where you, this is how you would source who I am. 170 00:07:24,330 --> 00:07:26,650 And so I did and I reached out to the Boston field office 171 00:07:26,770 --> 00:07:30,530 friends that we have a mutual friend and got a quick review on 172 00:07:30,530 --> 00:07:31,810 who you were as a person and that was enough. 173 00:07:31,810 --> 00:07:33,770 And then you and I had a phone call I think in December of last 174 00:07:33,770 --> 00:07:36,720 year because I know I was sitting in a hotel and and and 175 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,720 we had never met while we worked in the Bureau but got the got 176 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:42,880 the immediate vibe of a kindred spirit like you said I had the 177 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 your your reputation was no nonsense a straight shooter and 178 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,120 and a very fair individual who just didn't you know mince words 179 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:51,800 and I went like oh that's a guy I want to talk to you. 180 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:54,720 And since then our friendship, I think it's grown and and it's 181 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,600 been really beneficial to me to have a lot of the the experience 182 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,360 that you have and we're going to bring that to the audience 183 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,040 today. But if you are out there on 184 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,400 Twitter or on social media and you want to reach out to a guy 185 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:06,540 like George Hill, if you want to reach out to a guy like me or a 186 00:08:06,540 --> 00:08:08,540 Steve friend or a Guerdo Boyle and you want to introduce 187 00:08:08,540 --> 00:08:12,900 yourself, if you want to send us like a long sell job, that's 188 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:14,860 pretty much what we do for a living, is read through sell 189 00:08:14,860 --> 00:08:17,300 jobs. Would you agree with that? 190 00:08:18,060 --> 00:08:20,300 Yeah, it's, you know, where's your elevator pitch? 191 00:08:21,100 --> 00:08:23,620 Here's, here's who I am. Here's why. 192 00:08:24,100 --> 00:08:27,740 And you have to come out with the hook, which is This is why 193 00:08:27,740 --> 00:08:31,700 it's beneficial for you to pursue this, you know, 194 00:08:31,700 --> 00:08:35,610 relationship. If you can't spew that out in 195 00:08:35,610 --> 00:08:37,490 three or four sentences, you're done. 196 00:08:38,370 --> 00:08:42,570 But most importantly, it has to be, you know, This is why it's 197 00:08:42,610 --> 00:08:46,610 it's it's beneficial to you for us to make this connection 198 00:08:46,610 --> 00:08:51,330 because a lot of people reach out and it's about the benefit 199 00:08:51,330 --> 00:08:56,370 to them, which, I don't know. You and I could care less. 200 00:08:56,610 --> 00:08:58,970 Exactly. That's exactly it. 201 00:08:58,970 --> 00:09:00,210 It's like, why? Why do I care? 202 00:09:01,790 --> 00:09:04,590 So we had a we had a a couple of journalists reach out we had 203 00:09:04,590 --> 00:09:06,430 some folks I I have some friendly relationships with the 204 00:09:06,430 --> 00:09:08,350 people that were the staff at Project Veritas. 205 00:09:08,350 --> 00:09:11,550 We're actually going to show some of their video later on and 206 00:09:11,550 --> 00:09:13,550 some of the staff at Project Veritas had reached out to me 207 00:09:13,550 --> 00:09:14,990 and asked me if I would promote A cause of theirs. 208 00:09:14,990 --> 00:09:17,110 And I think it's a worthy cause. And the cause is essentially 209 00:09:17,470 --> 00:09:22,390 Project Veritas has failed to to back the journalists that were 210 00:09:22,390 --> 00:09:26,430 raided by the FBI in New York and they are not supporting them 211 00:09:26,430 --> 00:09:29,960 in a legal sense. And so they are kind of on the 212 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,680 hook for whatever the legal bills are and those may be 213 00:09:31,680 --> 00:09:33,480 substantial because they're going against the federal 214 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 government. And so they sent me this video 215 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,920 and the video starts off with I am this person and I was 216 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:42,080 nominated by the people at Project Veritas to do this thing 217 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,760 and I have done this thing and it's like I you lost me. 218 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,360 I don't care. I I already don't care. 219 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,040 And I even like these people. And so the the concept that we 220 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,510 teach in in briefing, and I know that you've probably helped your 221 00:09:55,030 --> 00:09:57,270 the people that were students underneath you in the college 222 00:09:57,270 --> 00:09:59,390 setting, but also in the professional sense, the bottom 223 00:09:59,390 --> 00:10:03,350 line up front, the bluff, the the powerful nature of just 224 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:07,670 giving me a reason to listen. Yeah, if you can't capture that 225 00:10:07,670 --> 00:10:11,670 person in in one or two sentences, it's it's over. 226 00:10:12,350 --> 00:10:15,910 The longer you go on trying to make your point, you're just 227 00:10:15,910 --> 00:10:19,150 wasting your time. And as time goes by, whether 228 00:10:19,150 --> 00:10:22,790 it's in sentences or in seconds, you're pushing that person away. 229 00:10:23,980 --> 00:10:26,820 So one of the things that I've learned from hanging out talking 230 00:10:26,820 --> 00:10:28,700 to you, and like I said, I do benefit from your experience. 231 00:10:28,700 --> 00:10:31,180 You've got like a much deeper depth of wisdom. 232 00:10:31,180 --> 00:10:33,420 Mine is sort of shallow and and very broad. 233 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:35,660 And I have that benefit of working in the private sector. 234 00:10:35,660 --> 00:10:39,300 But I've kind of come to the concept of the United States is 235 00:10:39,420 --> 00:10:42,340 a lot like a garden. Did you ever, I don't know if 236 00:10:42,340 --> 00:10:43,940 you ever read like American literature going up. 237 00:10:43,940 --> 00:10:46,940 And I and I recall there there's this idea, the myth of Edenic 238 00:10:46,940 --> 00:10:48,460 possibilities. You recall that from like a 239 00:10:48,460 --> 00:10:53,030 classical education at all. Maybe not. 240 00:10:53,030 --> 00:10:56,510 I do remember the term and I and I keep it alive and refreshed, 241 00:10:56,910 --> 00:10:59,550 which is you need to weed your garden from time to time, 242 00:11:00,510 --> 00:11:04,030 meaning take people out of your life that are just choking out 243 00:11:04,390 --> 00:11:07,150 the sunshine and the nutrients and the water from people who 244 00:11:07,150 --> 00:11:10,230 actually enrich your life. Might be along the same vein. 245 00:11:10,230 --> 00:11:12,590 It's the same idea. So the idea was, is that when 246 00:11:12,590 --> 00:11:15,470 the when the European settlers came over to the new world, to 247 00:11:15,470 --> 00:11:18,580 the new continent, there was an untouched sort of pristine land. 248 00:11:18,580 --> 00:11:20,860 Let's just we'll just have to ignore the fact that they were 249 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:22,860 indigenous peoples here and doing whatever they were doing. 250 00:11:23,060 --> 00:11:25,500 But for the for the European mindset, they had come into a 251 00:11:25,500 --> 00:11:28,900 place that was essentially what they called an identic garden. 252 00:11:28,900 --> 00:11:31,260 It was a new world. It was a new possibility, even 253 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:34,260 though the name New World implies that they had a new shot 254 00:11:34,260 --> 00:11:37,020 at sort of the the the covenant with God. 255 00:11:37,790 --> 00:11:40,430 And we talked about adultery yesterday and kind of got into 256 00:11:40,430 --> 00:11:42,230 the things that have that have gotten in the way, I think in 257 00:11:42,230 --> 00:11:44,830 our society. But the the literary references, 258 00:11:44,830 --> 00:11:46,870 the myth of Edenic possibilities, which is to say 259 00:11:47,030 --> 00:11:48,910 this, this fundamental hopefulness. 260 00:11:49,070 --> 00:11:51,230 And it's captured all the way through American literature. 261 00:11:51,230 --> 00:11:53,310 And I think you'll find that this is, like really true when 262 00:11:53,310 --> 00:11:55,150 we think about the governmental structure, which is that they 263 00:11:55,150 --> 00:11:58,430 said we have a new shot, a new birth of freedom on this land to 264 00:11:58,430 --> 00:12:01,390 be able to bring forth something that has not been done because 265 00:12:01,390 --> 00:12:04,600 we are starting with a incredibly wealthy land and 266 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,640 resources in space, in people, in capabilities and so on. 267 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,680 We have, you know, we have ports and we have timber and we have 268 00:12:11,680 --> 00:12:13,840 waterways and we have the ability to grow things. 269 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,520 And all this kind of stuff was all available to these guys that 270 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,880 that that looked out and saw, you know, basically a vastness 271 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:22,800 out to the West. And the idea of the Garden was, 272 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,120 if you create a beautiful landscape, architecture, 273 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,320 blueprint to be able to lay out this foundational principle, 274 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,230 which was our constitution, then you can create sort of a perfect 275 00:12:35,230 --> 00:12:37,750 place for people to live in. And and they use the word Edenic 276 00:12:37,750 --> 00:12:39,710 in literature because they're talking about the Garden of 277 00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:42,070 Eden, literally the first covenant that that man and God 278 00:12:42,070 --> 00:12:44,950 had together and and sort of the first shot at that perfect 279 00:12:44,950 --> 00:12:47,510 existence. And so America in many ways for 280 00:12:47,510 --> 00:12:49,590 the Europeans and certainly for the Founding Fathers, 281 00:12:49,590 --> 00:12:52,510 represented a opportunity to maybe regrasp that sort of 282 00:12:52,510 --> 00:12:54,950 Edenic capability of living in harmony with God. 283 00:12:55,630 --> 00:12:57,990 And we got a really, really good constitution. 284 00:12:58,150 --> 00:13:00,630 We got a really, really good framework to play with. 285 00:13:01,150 --> 00:13:05,650 And yet, as is the nature of all things human, we are flawed 286 00:13:05,650 --> 00:13:07,450 creatures. I think you would acknowledge 287 00:13:07,450 --> 00:13:10,330 that pretty well. And we are also people who are 288 00:13:10,330 --> 00:13:13,170 not necessarily always attuned to the things that are the most 289 00:13:13,170 --> 00:13:14,690 important to ourselves until it's too late. 290 00:13:14,930 --> 00:13:18,890 And so the idea is in my estimation, the federal 291 00:13:18,890 --> 00:13:20,810 government and the and the mechanisms of the federal 292 00:13:20,810 --> 00:13:24,850 government which were supposed to be very limited and very they 293 00:13:24,850 --> 00:13:28,770 were supposed to be very narrow in function, have gotten so 294 00:13:28,770 --> 00:13:32,110 broad recently because they have been neglected. 295 00:13:32,750 --> 00:13:38,990 And my my sort of analogy is, is like Ivy, like common Ivy. 296 00:13:39,070 --> 00:13:40,990 There's it's also known as English Ivy, but it basically 297 00:13:40,990 --> 00:13:42,590 grows on the ground. It's a ground cover and it can 298 00:13:42,590 --> 00:13:44,310 take up a lot of space and it can be beautiful. 299 00:13:44,510 --> 00:13:46,510 But if you don't let it, you know, if you don't have 300 00:13:46,510 --> 00:13:48,990 something out there keeping the boundaries at Bay, then it'll 301 00:13:48,990 --> 00:13:51,470 grow up your walls and it'll get into your foundation and it'll 302 00:13:51,470 --> 00:13:53,830 take out the bricks on the side and it'll choke out your trees. 303 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:57,120 So that's the that's kind of the the the analogy I thought how do 304 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,960 you feel about the creeping nature of government from your 305 00:13:59,960 --> 00:14:01,920 different, you know, your 4 decades or so within? 306 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,840 It's changed radically over the course of my lifetime. 307 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,240 I'm obviously retired now, so we're talking about, you know, 308 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,000 at least as far as being aware of the scope of federal 309 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,240 government we're talking about over 5 decades. 310 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:18,480 It's changed radically in in size. 311 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:21,400 It's created in every aspect of our lives. 312 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,760 But it's it's not by accident as you. 313 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:26,230 Alluded to just a few seconds ago, Kyle. 314 00:14:26,710 --> 00:14:30,390 It's actually by designed. It's just it's part of the 315 00:14:30,390 --> 00:14:36,750 structure of government to continue to grow, to continue to 316 00:14:36,750 --> 00:14:39,950 to push its way into people's lives, some of it altruistic 317 00:14:39,950 --> 00:14:42,310 thinking they're doing something good for the country. 318 00:14:43,470 --> 00:14:46,830 It In most cases, though, it's come to the point where it's all 319 00:14:46,830 --> 00:14:51,200 about power and amassing power. You know, I remember Reagan 320 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,000 talking about the the federal deficit back in the 80s and now 321 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,400 we're up to. I don't know, I'm sure someone 322 00:14:56,400 --> 00:15:00,680 will correct me, $23 trillion at $23 trillion in debt. 323 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:06,480 I should be riding on black silk ribbons of Rd. you know, and and 324 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:09,920 never sitting in traffic. But it's just crept into every 325 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,040 aspect of our society, which is what the framers had intended to 326 00:15:13,400 --> 00:15:15,880 avoid with the concept of federalism. 327 00:15:16,690 --> 00:15:19,410 Feel like you've had probably a much greater insight into sort 328 00:15:19,410 --> 00:15:21,890 of the budgetary process and the way that the federal government 329 00:15:21,890 --> 00:15:24,730 sort of grows, at least in the two agencies that you've worked 330 00:15:24,730 --> 00:15:26,530 for. Can you kind of give people some 331 00:15:26,530 --> 00:15:28,450 insight into how that process works? 332 00:15:28,730 --> 00:15:31,490 And and maybe that it's not the nefarious thing that people 333 00:15:31,490 --> 00:15:33,810 think it is, that it's actually sort of like what we call the 334 00:15:33,810 --> 00:15:36,810 banality of evil. I think the best example of that 335 00:15:36,810 --> 00:15:39,970 would be, let's just talk about the defense appropriations bill. 336 00:15:40,930 --> 00:15:43,090 I've worked in the private sector for a few years in 337 00:15:43,090 --> 00:15:46,050 between wars, and I've worked for a defense company. 338 00:15:46,540 --> 00:15:51,140 Which which got gobbled up but you have congressmen and 339 00:15:51,140 --> 00:15:55,740 senators that will push for you know that we need to have 340 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:59,100 multiple places in the country for these engines to be 341 00:15:59,100 --> 00:16:03,980 manufactured just and they treated it as a jobs program And 342 00:16:03,980 --> 00:16:05,940 then they would stand in front of the camera and they would 343 00:16:05,940 --> 00:16:10,660 look like a a defense hawk you know pro America waving flag 344 00:16:10,660 --> 00:16:14,660 back in you know behind their head in the background when in 345 00:16:14,660 --> 00:16:19,050 reality. They were just protecting their 346 00:16:19,050 --> 00:16:23,090 seat under the guise of protecting their constituency. 347 00:16:23,330 --> 00:16:27,290 So you had to have multiple places in the country where the 348 00:16:27,370 --> 00:16:32,170 engines for the B52 bombers were made, multiple places the 349 00:16:32,170 --> 00:16:35,410 General Electric used to manufacture fighter engines and 350 00:16:35,410 --> 00:16:39,050 engines for helicopters, and I'm just using that as an example, 351 00:16:39,330 --> 00:16:42,890 but you know. If you're not expanding in 352 00:16:42,890 --> 00:16:45,410 government, you're not doing your job. 353 00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:47,810 If you're not, you know, pushing programs out. 354 00:16:47,810 --> 00:16:51,930 If you're not building headcount, you're failing that. 355 00:16:51,930 --> 00:16:54,130 I think that's a really profound thought and most people would 356 00:16:54,130 --> 00:16:56,810 never consider that because from private industry, if you are not 357 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:59,770 streamlining your business, if you are not trying to get leaner 358 00:16:59,770 --> 00:17:02,250 and meter and you don't make a profit, the incentive of the 359 00:17:02,250 --> 00:17:04,210 government is exactly the opposite from what you just 360 00:17:04,210 --> 00:17:05,609 said. And I think that seems to be my 361 00:17:05,609 --> 00:17:07,890 experience as well. If you're not expanding, you're 362 00:17:07,890 --> 00:17:10,609 failing. Yeah, 100%. 363 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,040 So in the analogy of the garden that I like to use, I always 364 00:17:14,040 --> 00:17:16,720 talk about the Bill of Rights as being sort of those, those green 365 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,200 landscape boundaries. You know, you've you've lined 366 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:22,079 out here's where the lawn is and here's where the Ivy is and 367 00:17:22,079 --> 00:17:23,359 here's where the flower beds are. 368 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,040 And you put down those barriers and those barriers are great, 369 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,520 right? And they do a decent job of 370 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,200 letting you know where the boundary is. 371 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,850 But if you don't come in with a weed wacker and and and really 372 00:17:33,850 --> 00:17:37,090 trim and hedge out those creeping Ivy's the the 373 00:17:37,130 --> 00:17:39,570 government that needs to expand in order to feel like it's 374 00:17:39,570 --> 00:17:41,250 successful. If you're not constantly hitting 375 00:17:41,250 --> 00:17:45,130 that barrier with a with a fast spinning string, then you're 376 00:17:45,130 --> 00:17:47,570 going to see it grow over and suddenly your Ivy is going to be 377 00:17:47,570 --> 00:17:49,610 in your lawn and your flower bed is going to get choked out by 378 00:17:49,610 --> 00:17:50,690 Ivy. And suddenly everything is 379 00:17:50,690 --> 00:17:52,530 government. And in many ways I feel like 380 00:17:52,530 --> 00:17:53,490 that's where we're all right now. 381 00:17:53,490 --> 00:17:56,130 We the weed whackers not being used to to maintain those 382 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:59,820 boundaries, which are sort of the civil liberties in the 383 00:17:59,820 --> 00:18:02,180 first, the the 1st 10 amendments that are supposed to be 384 00:18:02,180 --> 00:18:06,300 delineating that line. But there's no incentive to use 385 00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:09,700 the weed whacker. It actually incentive to not use 386 00:18:09,780 --> 00:18:13,220 the weed whacker, which we just covered a few seconds ago. 387 00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:20,460 You know, This is why this 2025 plan is important. 388 00:18:20,460 --> 00:18:24,540 This is why the next election is so important, because. 389 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,240 The federal government will continue to metastasize and 390 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:33,120 spread and creep like Ivy over everything and choking it out 391 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:36,320 and and what we're seeing now is the Ivy choking out people's 392 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 civil liberties. And people are just starting to 393 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,160 notice that how dangerous this the spread has become. 394 00:18:42,730 --> 00:18:44,330 And a lot of these people I think live in the middle of the 395 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:45,570 lawn. They had no idea that they were 396 00:18:45,570 --> 00:18:48,050 near the boundaries but the but it's crept so far away from the 397 00:18:48,050 --> 00:18:49,410 boundary that it's actually getting into. 398 00:18:49,730 --> 00:18:53,170 You know, everyday people moms who are on Twitter or TikTok and 399 00:18:53,210 --> 00:18:55,810 you know like a dad who wants to post a video about something and 400 00:18:56,050 --> 00:18:57,970 realizes suddenly he crossed the line that he didn't even know 401 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:01,050 existed, right. You know, he's he's made an 402 00:19:01,090 --> 00:19:03,970 innocent post. No one is illegal. 403 00:19:03,970 --> 00:19:06,730 Everyone's welcome here. Whoa, whoa, wait a minute, wait 404 00:19:06,770 --> 00:19:08,810 a minute. You know, not, not these people. 405 00:19:08,810 --> 00:19:11,950 Not this many people. They're like, that's a great 406 00:19:11,950 --> 00:19:13,310 analogy. They're living in the middle of 407 00:19:13,310 --> 00:19:15,390 the lawn. They have no idea that their 408 00:19:15,390 --> 00:19:20,390 virtue signaling is actually has some sort of a cost to it and 409 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:22,110 they're they're just starting to realize it. 410 00:19:22,110 --> 00:19:25,150 Now the question is, is that, you know, are people realizing 411 00:19:25,150 --> 00:19:28,070 too late or are there some people that just want to go by 412 00:19:28,070 --> 00:19:30,110 the axiom when you're in too deep, go deeper. 413 00:19:31,550 --> 00:19:33,230 There's that. The other thing I see a lot of 414 00:19:33,230 --> 00:19:36,190 his people self censoring and I I host these Twitter space on a 415 00:19:36,190 --> 00:19:38,310 regular basis to hear what a couple 100 people may have to 416 00:19:38,310 --> 00:19:41,650 say on any given night and people will constantly say, you 417 00:19:41,650 --> 00:19:43,690 know, in case there's any feds listening, I want to say this 418 00:19:43,690 --> 00:19:46,450 and you know there's a tremendous fear of the the 419 00:19:46,450 --> 00:19:49,130 capabilities of the government. Can you talk about a little bit 420 00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:51,930 about one, how founded that is, but also maybe sort of the 421 00:19:51,930 --> 00:19:54,650 limitations that exist because there are obviously human 422 00:19:54,730 --> 00:19:56,130 limitations that people don't understand. 423 00:19:57,210 --> 00:20:00,890 I think that's I'm going to go with the opposite of that where 424 00:20:00,890 --> 00:20:03,330 most people think of ago. I think it's more psychological 425 00:20:03,330 --> 00:20:06,290 and that when someone says I got to be careful what I say 426 00:20:06,290 --> 00:20:09,290 because, you know, Secti might be monitoring this podcast. 427 00:20:11,530 --> 00:20:15,450 And then they do that either consciously or subconsciously to 428 00:20:15,450 --> 00:20:18,290 get the listener to say, ooh, this person is going to say 429 00:20:18,290 --> 00:20:20,490 something really profound and dangerous. 430 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:26,890 So I think it's it's akin to when someone says, you know, and 431 00:20:26,890 --> 00:20:30,290 and I know Dan Bongino quotes Demi Moore a lot on this one 432 00:20:30,290 --> 00:20:33,530 with that movie where she was trying to be a SEAL or something 433 00:20:33,530 --> 00:20:35,370 like that. You know, I don't want to make a 434 00:20:35,370 --> 00:20:38,170 statement, but yeah, I don't want to make a statement. 435 00:20:38,170 --> 00:20:40,650 But, you know, and the and the commander says, yeah, people who 436 00:20:40,650 --> 00:20:42,450 don't want to make statements don't make statements about 437 00:20:42,450 --> 00:20:45,770 making statements. So I I think it's like that it's 438 00:20:45,770 --> 00:20:49,610 it's more psychological to kind of draw people in like, oh, this 439 00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:52,130 man or this woman's going to say something really profound. 440 00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:58,050 I better listen now. So I I don't think we see 441 00:20:58,050 --> 00:21:00,850 overtly evidence of selfcensorship. 442 00:21:01,470 --> 00:21:06,190 I think it's more covertly and and underneath our our field of 443 00:21:06,190 --> 00:21:10,110 vision where people either withdraw entirely from social 444 00:21:10,110 --> 00:21:14,110 media or, you know, I even have friends when I'm out hiking. 445 00:21:14,110 --> 00:21:18,150 And we'll get into these rather heated discussions on the trail 446 00:21:18,310 --> 00:21:21,110 up in in New Hampshire, which is pretty blue. 447 00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:23,150 You have a lot of people from the Democratic Socialist 448 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:25,110 People's Republic of Massachusetts who hike in New 449 00:21:25,110 --> 00:21:28,350 Hampshire and you know, my friend will like, stop talking. 450 00:21:28,350 --> 00:21:32,290 I'm like, no, don't stop, you know, say it out loud. 451 00:21:32,290 --> 00:21:33,650 If it offends them, it offends them. 452 00:21:33,650 --> 00:21:37,930 There's there's no penalty to be paid for stifling yourself. 453 00:21:37,930 --> 00:21:42,090 In fact, there's a penalty to be paid for stifling yourself. 454 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,400 That's I think what I'm getting at is that people are internally 455 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,000 sensing their thoughts like you say the people that are that are 456 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,360 most concerned, it's not them saying, well I don't want to say 457 00:21:50,360 --> 00:21:52,520 this because of this. It's that they literally walk 458 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,440 out and they go you know my wife is one of those people. 459 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:56,800 It's it's very conscious conscientious people. 460 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:00,320 It's very agreeable people which you and I probably we may be one 461 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,560 but not the other with with the with the people who have been 462 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,120 around us like I don't think you have a problem saying your mind 463 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,160 and and if that hurts someone's feelings that turns out to be a 464 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,720 them problem. I feel very similarly. 465 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:12,480 My wife will be like, oh, don't say that like. 466 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,800 What if somebody hears you and is exactly right? 467 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:17,560 It's like that's a them problem. Why are they eavesdropping on my 468 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,560 conversation if I'm so interesting? 469 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,120 It turns out they can turn into my podcast and hear exactly what 470 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,480 I think if they want to hear more. 471 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,560 And if they don't, they don't ever have to hear me again 472 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,880 because I'm about to walk past them. 473 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,280 Because I walk really quickly and I don't have time for slow, 474 00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:31,800 you know, you know, dobbling around on the on the sidewalk 475 00:22:32,120 --> 00:22:33,840 and if you happen to be listening and eavesdropping and 476 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,240 that offends you, that's a you problem. 477 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,320 It turns out you have no right not to be offended in this 478 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,140 country, right. I mean, I try to police my 479 00:22:42,140 --> 00:22:46,140 language as as a, you know, 26 year veteran, 13 to which were 480 00:22:46,300 --> 00:22:49,340 active duty Marine Corps. My language can be rather 481 00:22:49,340 --> 00:22:52,700 colorful. If if I'm out in public, I try 482 00:22:52,700 --> 00:22:57,180 to be mindful that there are people with children or you 483 00:22:57,180 --> 00:23:01,660 know, other people that that maybe be turned off by, you 484 00:23:01,660 --> 00:23:05,540 know, colorful language. But the content of my speech, 485 00:23:05,660 --> 00:23:09,140 like you said, Kyle, if they have a problem with it, that's a 486 00:23:09,180 --> 00:23:11,500 their problem. Not that's not my problem. 487 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:15,500 And I'm not going to censor myself for fear of, you know, 488 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:19,660 tweaking someone you know. As of today, there is no legal 489 00:23:19,660 --> 00:23:24,300 penalty for saying something coming out of a CVS that someone 490 00:23:24,300 --> 00:23:26,540 coming into the CVS might find offensive. 491 00:23:26,780 --> 00:23:29,140 Except maybe in Michigan. It looks like they may have 492 00:23:29,140 --> 00:23:32,260 criminalized that in some way. They yeah, there's some some 493 00:23:32,260 --> 00:23:33,780 strange laws. I don't know how they hold up 494 00:23:33,780 --> 00:23:36,460 against our First Amendment, but my my instinct is the weed 495 00:23:36,460 --> 00:23:38,280 whacker. At least the primary weed 496 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,400 whacker that we should be using is our protected First Amendment 497 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,560 speech. You don't have a right to be 498 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:44,200 unoffended, you. And that includes people 499 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,440 speaking ways that you don't like either. 500 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,640 That should go both ways. I get into these on Twitter all 501 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,800 the time where people are blocking, oh, I block this guy 502 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:51,960 and they feel really proud of it. 503 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,280 It's like, no, I I listen to this guy. 504 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,360 In fact, if I find them very offensive and it's not because 505 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,160 of something they're saying that is, you know, grosser or or just 506 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:02,920 profane, if it's something that I just find very repulsive as an 507 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,590 idea, I often times follow them. Because I want to know, I just 508 00:24:05,590 --> 00:24:08,190 followed a guy named William Lagate who is like David Hog's 509 00:24:08,190 --> 00:24:10,390 buddy actually follow David Hog too. 510 00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:13,870 And it's like, I want to know what people who I don't agree 511 00:24:13,870 --> 00:24:16,190 with say, because I need to know what terminology is being used 512 00:24:16,190 --> 00:24:18,270 and I need to know how radical they're being and and and I do 513 00:24:18,270 --> 00:24:20,550 it and I'll engage with them in good faith. 514 00:24:20,590 --> 00:24:23,310 And if I find out that they cannot be, you know, if I, if I 515 00:24:23,310 --> 00:24:24,590 can't handle that, that's a me problem. 516 00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:26,750 It turns out, it turns out that my inability to listen to them 517 00:24:27,070 --> 00:24:31,110 is it's really on me. No, I agree 100%. 518 00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:34,270 And you know, I I love following people that I I disagree with, 519 00:24:34,470 --> 00:24:36,870 which is one of the reasons I'm more active on Twitter than I am 520 00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:39,950 on true social. True social tends to be somewhat 521 00:24:39,990 --> 00:24:43,790 of an echo chamber. I applaud President Trump and 522 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:46,590 and Devin Nunes for for developing that platform. 523 00:24:47,190 --> 00:24:51,270 It's a friendly place, but I'd rather, I mean, I live in deep 524 00:24:51,270 --> 00:24:56,270 blue Massachusetts. I find it helpful to listen to 525 00:24:56,270 --> 00:24:59,090 you know, these people and what what their stance is. 526 00:24:59,090 --> 00:25:04,010 I live around surrounded by people with BLM signs and and 527 00:25:04,010 --> 00:25:08,730 hate has no home here signs. I love seeing these people and 528 00:25:08,730 --> 00:25:14,050 listening to them because it helps me, you know, it enriches 529 00:25:14,050 --> 00:25:16,130 my own perspective. Right. 530 00:25:16,170 --> 00:25:18,690 And and clearly they're not all bad people. 531 00:25:18,690 --> 00:25:20,530 That's I think the most important thing that I mentioned 532 00:25:20,530 --> 00:25:22,850 yesterday. And for folks that didn't listen 533 00:25:22,850 --> 00:25:24,290 to it, we kind of went on this rant about. 534 00:25:24,610 --> 00:25:27,010 If you if you think that you're the end all be all, then you are 535 00:25:27,010 --> 00:25:30,130 also idolatizing or you're I idolatizing. 536 00:25:30,170 --> 00:25:31,650 How do you say that word? Idolatizing. 537 00:25:32,370 --> 00:25:34,010 Idolizing. Thank you. 538 00:25:34,050 --> 00:25:35,730 I added an extra syllable for no reason. 539 00:25:36,650 --> 00:25:38,810 If you're idolizing yourself because you think that you're 540 00:25:38,810 --> 00:25:41,570 the font of the only capability of truth and you are also 541 00:25:41,570 --> 00:25:44,290 failing like we should all be capable of reflection and and so 542 00:25:44,290 --> 00:25:46,290 anyway, I love to have it. Like you say, it enriches. 543 00:25:46,370 --> 00:25:47,410 I think that's the right word for it. 544 00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:49,410 I've got a couple videos. These are some of the things 545 00:25:49,410 --> 00:25:51,250 that are happening right now. We talked about the the growth 546 00:25:51,250 --> 00:25:53,790 of the, the. The administrative state the way 547 00:25:53,790 --> 00:25:56,230 that the the government continues to buy its own 548 00:25:56,230 --> 00:26:00,310 necessity by the way it's designed creep and we are now 549 00:26:00,310 --> 00:26:03,230 seeing the sort of really bizarre sort of turn where 550 00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:05,390 people are being arrested for misdemeanors in this country. 551 00:26:05,390 --> 00:26:08,550 We just saw Enrico Tario sense of 22 years. 552 00:26:08,550 --> 00:26:10,110 I want to talk about that a little bit too, because I know 553 00:26:10,110 --> 00:26:11,910 you have a lot of experience in the in the counterterrorism 554 00:26:11,910 --> 00:26:15,790 space and we can kind of just we I think if you don't work in the 555 00:26:15,790 --> 00:26:19,190 in that world 22 years sounds like a punishment that people 556 00:26:19,190 --> 00:26:22,910 might get. In in some reasonable setting. 557 00:26:22,910 --> 00:26:25,910 But you know I've seen guys who were involved in creating child 558 00:26:25,910 --> 00:26:28,750 pornography get 10 years and that being a rough sentence like 559 00:26:28,750 --> 00:26:31,110 a really rough sentence. I've seen guys distributing 560 00:26:31,110 --> 00:26:34,750 child pornography on on the dark web you know get 40 months of 561 00:26:34,750 --> 00:26:36,470 which they served half of it kind of deal. 562 00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:40,670 And so the idea that someone who wasn't physically at an event 563 00:26:40,750 --> 00:26:44,070 that he conducted insurrection by remote using like not his 564 00:26:44,070 --> 00:26:45,030 phone. I don't even know what he was 565 00:26:45,030 --> 00:26:46,750 supposed to have been using. I think they even took his 566 00:26:46,750 --> 00:26:48,550 devices. I think he was in custody at the 567 00:26:48,550 --> 00:26:49,650 time, right? It was. 568 00:26:49,810 --> 00:26:52,930 It was mental. Yeah, he was using the mental 569 00:26:52,930 --> 00:26:55,130 botnet to reach out to the satellites and communicate with 570 00:26:55,130 --> 00:26:57,650 his buddies through the Unspoken Conspiracy. 571 00:26:57,650 --> 00:27:00,010 Anyway, that the absurdity of that kind of goes to the point 572 00:27:00,010 --> 00:27:01,490 where I'm going to show you a couple videos right now. 573 00:27:01,490 --> 00:27:04,770 Do we have the the arrest videos #4 capable Ryan? 574 00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:08,330 Yes, Sir. Let's let's send that this came 575 00:27:08,330 --> 00:27:10,450 out from the Hodge twins. This is a guy named Nathan 576 00:27:10,450 --> 00:27:13,210 Hughes. He's in Fayetteville, AR. 577 00:27:13,250 --> 00:27:15,570 He is just. A guy that was arrested for the 578 00:27:15,570 --> 00:27:17,650 FBI, I'm going to talk about the circumstances of it and what 579 00:27:17,650 --> 00:27:20,210 does the concrete allegations are in the fact patterns the DOJ 580 00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:22,250 put out. And we're also going to talk 581 00:27:22,250 --> 00:27:25,130 about the, I guess Liberty safes wants to be the next Bud Light 582 00:27:25,130 --> 00:27:28,010 because of this. So we'll let's roll a video #4 583 00:27:28,010 --> 00:27:29,250 if you could. I know there's two parts to it, 584 00:27:29,250 --> 00:27:30,410 so we'll talk over if we have to. 585 00:27:31,770 --> 00:27:34,650 You want a part one Kyle, with the cars, or part one outside 586 00:27:34,650 --> 00:27:37,010 the store? Let's roll the cars 1st and and 587 00:27:37,010 --> 00:27:38,370 you can do it without sound because George and I will 588 00:27:38,370 --> 00:27:41,650 actually comment on it I think. Roger. 589 00:27:44,410 --> 00:27:47,930 So folks, what you're seeing is camera from the surveillance at 590 00:27:47,970 --> 00:27:54,010 the Hughes residence, and we are showing now a classic FBI arrest 591 00:27:54,010 --> 00:27:55,690 warrant, search warrant package coming in. 592 00:27:55,770 --> 00:27:58,530 You see a Suburban, there's a Buick that's probably some kind 593 00:27:58,530 --> 00:28:01,410 of, I don't know who's getting the Buick, but in my office it 594 00:28:01,410 --> 00:28:04,370 was always an S A/C or an ASAC. Now we've got a bunch of people 595 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:06,490 coming in in standard government cars. 596 00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:08,770 You get your Chevys and your Dodges, You've got another SUV 597 00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:11,010 rolling in. There's another. 598 00:28:11,670 --> 00:28:13,910 Sedan, these are all darked out, so pretty standard. 599 00:28:13,910 --> 00:28:15,990 You've got another sedan here. This looks like a Ford. 600 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:20,510 So that was probably what like 6 cars, maybe 7 cars and that's 601 00:28:20,510 --> 00:28:22,470 pretty, that's pretty classic figure at least double 602 00:28:22,470 --> 00:28:24,030 occupancy. Then it skips forward about 10 603 00:28:24,030 --> 00:28:25,350 or 12 minutes. This is probably the search 604 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:27,590 package coming in. And so we just saw another two 605 00:28:27,590 --> 00:28:29,590 cars roll in from the other side of the highway. 606 00:28:29,750 --> 00:28:31,150 There's another one, Robin, in there as well. 607 00:28:31,270 --> 00:28:34,550 So you've probably got upwards of 20 people on scene. 608 00:28:35,390 --> 00:28:37,710 I'm wondering, George, did you do they have you on scene at all 609 00:28:37,710 --> 00:28:40,750 with any of the searches or were you kind of back command post 610 00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:45,540 status? George just cut out Kyle. 611 00:28:45,540 --> 00:28:47,220 He just came right back when. You made that question when you 612 00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:50,380 were working in Boston. Did you go on scene for any of 613 00:28:50,380 --> 00:28:52,300 the searches for any of the subjects you guys were involved 614 00:28:52,300 --> 00:28:53,980 in, or were you mostly command post? 615 00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:58,220 No, I I did both. I'd say probably 2/3 command 616 00:28:58,220 --> 00:29:01,300 post but a couple times on scene because some of the people on my 617 00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:03,620 squad were on ERT Evidence recovery team. 618 00:29:04,820 --> 00:29:08,870 So you know it. It gave me an opportunity to 619 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:11,670 observe first hand you know their performance and 620 00:29:11,670 --> 00:29:15,870 interaction with the rest of the members of the team and agents 621 00:29:15,870 --> 00:29:20,110 on site but but that's that's SOP. 622 00:29:20,110 --> 00:29:23,430 That's how they roll these days that I'm only, I only joined the 623 00:29:23,430 --> 00:29:26,990 Bureau in 2010 and that was how they rolled then. 624 00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:29,430 I don't know how they rolled. You know pre 911 I'm sure it 625 00:29:29,430 --> 00:29:34,950 wasn't that heavy and and also from a tactical standpoint if 626 00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:38,750 you need that many men and women with guns and you come down a 627 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:42,790 fatal funnel like that you're all going to get smoked. 628 00:29:42,790 --> 00:29:46,190 So I I to me, it's just a show of force. 629 00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:50,670 So I used to describe it as law enforcement cosplay. 630 00:29:50,670 --> 00:29:52,990 That's pretty much my standard ever since I went to the FBI 631 00:29:52,990 --> 00:29:55,830 Academy, You know, I didn't have any other law enforcement to to 632 00:29:56,190 --> 00:29:58,670 to ping it against other than my interactions with local police. 633 00:29:59,110 --> 00:30:02,110 And what I would say is what the state police will do with one 634 00:30:02,110 --> 00:30:05,510 trooper on the side of the road or most police officers will do 635 00:30:05,510 --> 00:30:07,270 with a partner on a knock and talk. 636 00:30:07,470 --> 00:30:10,550 The FBI will do with like a 10 to 20 man team and they won't 637 00:30:10,550 --> 00:30:12,590 even blink an eye at it. Is that pretty much the same 638 00:30:12,590 --> 00:30:13,790 experience in all the field offices? 639 00:30:13,790 --> 00:30:15,990 As far as you know? Absolutely. 640 00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:22,550 That's SOP, which is again why I went and down to Quantico six 641 00:30:22,550 --> 00:30:25,870 years ago now, I think. I think it's because because I 642 00:30:25,910 --> 00:30:33,960 was there 7 1/2 and I wanted to see how you know where, how, how 643 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,160 is this even happening? How is this even possible? 644 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,000 And I saw first hand how it's happening and how it's possible. 645 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,800 That's how we train them, you. Wouldn't give any insight into 646 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,760 watching did you. I'm assuming you got to see some 647 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,760 of the tactical training that happened in Hogan's Alley in the 648 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,240 way that they they teach people to to enter and compare that 649 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:51,600 maybe with your military experience overseas and how that 650 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,080 you know how that maybe combines with it or how how it's just 651 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,710 doesn't make any sense. Based on what struck me as odd 652 00:30:59,710 --> 00:31:06,950 about Hogan's Alley is that the way they gained entry it there 653 00:31:06,950 --> 00:31:17,270 didn't seem to be an overarching concern with safety of the 654 00:31:17,310 --> 00:31:19,550 individuals who may be in the house. 655 00:31:21,070 --> 00:31:24,950 I know that on my deployments, if if we entered the house, the 656 00:31:24,950 --> 00:31:30,580 primary concern was the safety of and I I deploy with Marines 657 00:31:30,620 --> 00:31:43,540 and and ODA Bubbas, but the primary concern was the the the 658 00:31:43,580 --> 00:31:46,100 the men, the men. There were no women on the 659 00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,660 trigger and here we're talking about American citizens. 660 00:31:50,180 --> 00:31:55,020 And I saw the same not identically, but a very similar 661 00:31:55,020 --> 00:32:00,400 mindset to what I saw in I I was only in Afghanistan. 662 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,840 I never, I didn't go to Iraq. I understand. 663 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,160 I never really involved in any kind of that the urban 664 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:11,480 activities there. But it didn't look unfamiliar in 665 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:17,800 terms of tactics, how the FBI works the students at Hogan's 666 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,400 Alley. Just didn't didn't seem to care 667 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,560 about the the safety of those inside because they're. 668 00:32:23,150 --> 00:32:24,870 I guess they're lesser than if they have a search warrant 669 00:32:24,870 --> 00:32:26,950 served there. We'll do kind of a tactics 670 00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:28,830 evaluation here. We rolled the second video from 671 00:32:28,830 --> 00:32:30,790 the Hodge Twins Twitter feed real quick. 672 00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:32,750 Ryan, you can do without sound and we'll kind of talk through 673 00:32:32,830 --> 00:32:34,950 it. I think there's a mindset of you 674 00:32:34,950 --> 00:32:37,630 brought this on yourself, you did this to yourself. 675 00:32:37,950 --> 00:32:40,150 I think it's. I think it's exactly right. 676 00:32:40,150 --> 00:32:41,870 So folks, if you're not watching on the Rumble Channel, what 677 00:32:41,870 --> 00:32:44,310 we're seeing here is a very nice, looks like Jeep Wrangler 678 00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:46,350 Unlimited. Or maybe it's a Humvee. 679 00:32:46,820 --> 00:32:50,420 And it is individual wearing camouflage shorts that are above 680 00:32:50,420 --> 00:32:51,780 the knee. So he's wearing kind of like the 681 00:32:51,780 --> 00:32:53,580 bro shorts. He's got a white tshirt on. 682 00:32:53,860 --> 00:32:56,180 He has nothing in a waistband that we can see from the video. 683 00:32:56,180 --> 00:32:58,780 He's got his hands extended above his head with a baseball 684 00:32:58,780 --> 00:33:00,860 hat on and he's got them far away. 685 00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:02,540 He's got like kind of that classic military watch. 686 00:33:02,540 --> 00:33:05,460 We're seeing it through a door and this is on the sidewalk of 687 00:33:05,460 --> 00:33:07,340 like maybe a commercial building. 688 00:33:07,540 --> 00:33:09,900 Looks like maybe outside of like a Home Depot type shopping 689 00:33:09,900 --> 00:33:12,060 center or something, there's some pallets in the way. 690 00:33:12,530 --> 00:33:15,170 And they're showing just the guy following commands, he's 691 00:33:15,170 --> 00:33:18,370 pointing, he's speaking, he's engaging and we're about to see 692 00:33:18,370 --> 00:33:23,450 the FBI package that's going to take this guy into Custody 123. 693 00:33:24,530 --> 00:33:27,250 And here comes the fourth female coming in from the rear. 694 00:33:27,490 --> 00:33:29,490 Everybody slung a rifle at low ready. 695 00:33:29,490 --> 00:33:33,490 I have no idea why a fifth guy coming in an L shape and also 696 00:33:33,490 --> 00:33:35,890 everyone kind of walking with just this lackadaisical 697 00:33:35,890 --> 00:33:38,850 attitude. Does that make any sense to you 698 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:41,130 in a in a tactical environment? And why the hell would you 699 00:33:41,130 --> 00:33:42,800 bring? Like, I just don't understand 700 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,360 the rifles there, George Is that. 701 00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,560 Is there anything you can justify this sort of weirdness? 702 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:53,600 Did we lose him? I've got George showing 703 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 connection problems on my side. There he is. 704 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,160 And now your audio's down. So. 705 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960 We can all hear him, Kyle. So we can hear him. 706 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,680 You just can't, Kyle. No, I can go ahead, okay. 707 00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:08,880 But no this is just this is just a show of force. 708 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:15,530 You know and it there's no evidence of sound tactical 709 00:34:15,650 --> 00:34:19,290 procedure here. This is just this is all for 710 00:34:19,290 --> 00:34:23,290 show. There's really no really I can't 711 00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:24,969 think of anything more to comment beyond that. 712 00:34:24,969 --> 00:34:27,050 This is this is like you said it's cosplay. 713 00:34:28,330 --> 00:34:31,210 You know I I don't I don't understand. 714 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:34,730 I don't, you know, know what the hell Director Ray is talking 715 00:34:34,730 --> 00:34:37,929 about that this gives the the, you know, the average American 716 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:42,330 you know, confidence in in their law enforcement to see this kind 717 00:34:42,330 --> 00:34:45,130 of overwhelming use of force here. 718 00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:48,489 You know, and thank God that woman in the back, I think it's 719 00:34:48,489 --> 00:34:50,409 a woman. Her gum was their rifle was at 720 00:34:50,409 --> 00:34:51,610 the low ready. Right. 721 00:34:52,210 --> 00:34:54,730 I I just don't like she's not in a firing position as you can 722 00:34:54,770 --> 00:34:56,810 articulate like the danger there of having someone. 723 00:34:56,850 --> 00:35:01,130 I used to always say this and and our producer Emeritus Phil 724 00:35:01,170 --> 00:35:03,370 and I used to always talk about this and it was one of my first 725 00:35:03,370 --> 00:35:04,850 statements to him. I got out on the Special 726 00:35:04,850 --> 00:35:08,160 Operations team which is the. The surveillance group, which we 727 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,640 can talk about real quickly, about whether that is an elite 728 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,120 organization or not. I had one of my bosses get mad 729 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,360 because I said it wasn't. But my my general perspective 730 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:19,240 after leaving the FBI Academy was that if I see an FBI agent 731 00:35:19,240 --> 00:35:22,040 draw a weapon, that person is the most dangerous person in the 732 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,840 room to me, bar none with. Is that something you could 733 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,000 agree with? Is that something that would 734 00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:30,280 offend you? So I I I carried what was 735 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,560 referred to as a cinch blade because as under the Clinton 736 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,680 administration, I was not allowed to carry a concealed 737 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:38,000 weapon into a federal building even though I'm licensed in 738 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,560 Massachusetts and a host of other States and I'm a certified 739 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,880 firearms instructor. So I carried A cinch blade in 740 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680 the same place that I would carry appendix carry. 741 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,280 I carry appendix carry. I have a 32 inch waistline so I 742 00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:54,160 can do that. And I had an agent asked me one 743 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,760 time in an elevator, you know how come you carry a cinch 744 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,350 blade? And he said because I can't 745 00:35:59,350 --> 00:36:01,910 carry a firearm, he goes, you think that's going to defend you 746 00:36:01,910 --> 00:36:04,910 against the firearm? I said I can get this out and 747 00:36:04,910 --> 00:36:08,630 into operation before you can get your weapon out and that 748 00:36:08,630 --> 00:36:13,550 ended the conversation. I had to go through 8 hours of 749 00:36:13,550 --> 00:36:16,630 psychological testing followed by an interview with a 750 00:36:16,630 --> 00:36:21,790 psychologist, a psychiatrist, followed by a full lifestyle 751 00:36:21,910 --> 00:36:26,190 polygraph exam all in one day. It was like almost a 14 hour day 752 00:36:26,190 --> 00:36:28,030 to join the National Security Agency. 753 00:36:28,530 --> 00:36:31,250 I was mortified when I found out that the FBI didn't have to go 754 00:36:31,290 --> 00:36:34,530 through anything similar, yet we give guns and badges out to 755 00:36:34,530 --> 00:36:36,410 these people. Yeah, a lot of them have no 756 00:36:36,410 --> 00:36:39,410 business carrying weapon. I remember they actually, I 757 00:36:39,410 --> 00:36:41,890 something had maybe like a 2 1/2 hour Polly or something of that 758 00:36:41,890 --> 00:36:43,050 effect. And when I sat down in the 759 00:36:43,050 --> 00:36:45,610 chair, they asked all these questions and then I answered 760 00:36:45,610 --> 00:36:47,570 them all truthfully, including some funny stuff where they were 761 00:36:47,570 --> 00:36:50,370 like, you know, if you ever, you know, committed a crime and 762 00:36:50,370 --> 00:36:52,450 gotten away with it. And I'm like, yeah, I when I was 763 00:36:52,450 --> 00:36:54,850 in college, I used to break into buildings and find vacant 764 00:36:54,850 --> 00:36:56,490 buildings and try to creep into him and stuff. 765 00:36:56,980 --> 00:36:58,820 And the guy's like, So what is that, like a misdemeanor 766 00:36:58,820 --> 00:37:00,300 trespassing? And I was like, I don't know 767 00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:02,100 what the charge was. I just knew it was wrong. 768 00:37:02,100 --> 00:37:03,380 And I did it. You asked me if I committed 769 00:37:03,380 --> 00:37:04,300 crimes. I didn't get caught. 770 00:37:04,660 --> 00:37:05,900 And. And he got kind of pissed at me. 771 00:37:05,940 --> 00:37:08,540 And he's like, do you ever rob a bank and get away with it? 772 00:37:08,540 --> 00:37:10,140 I was like, no. He's like you ever murder 773 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:11,460 somebody and, like, nobody found out. 774 00:37:11,460 --> 00:37:13,140 And like, no, he's like, you ever do a hit and run? 775 00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:14,980 And somebody died. And it's like, no, I didn't do 776 00:37:14,980 --> 00:37:16,180 any of those. He's like, that's what I'm 777 00:37:16,180 --> 00:37:17,300 talking about. And I'm like, well, that's not 778 00:37:17,300 --> 00:37:19,140 what you asked. I just answer the question as it 779 00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:20,420 was written. So I did that. 780 00:37:20,420 --> 00:37:21,860 And then at the end of it, you know, we go through the whole 781 00:37:21,860 --> 00:37:23,420 thing. And I think they actually had me 782 00:37:23,420 --> 00:37:25,750 come back and do an extra hour. And the guy goes, well, you 783 00:37:25,750 --> 00:37:28,190 probably just had some like minor academic cheating or 784 00:37:28,190 --> 00:37:30,030 something that that wasn't a big deal because they're trying to 785 00:37:30,030 --> 00:37:33,710 still get you to to lie and say that you said something false 786 00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:35,230 while you're on the Poly machine. 787 00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:37,390 And I remember really specifically being very incense. 788 00:37:37,390 --> 00:37:39,910 This is the kind of people that you expect to work in the 789 00:37:39,910 --> 00:37:42,270 national security setting. I was so incensed when the guy 790 00:37:42,270 --> 00:37:45,110 asked me if I cheated, I I decided to justify it for him. 791 00:37:45,110 --> 00:37:47,350 And this is a little bit of an overshare for my audience, but I 792 00:37:47,350 --> 00:37:50,830 think they'll appreciate it. I go Not only have I never 793 00:37:50,830 --> 00:37:53,250 cheated. On anything academically in my 794 00:37:53,250 --> 00:37:55,930 life, and I'm incense the fact that you said it, I actually 795 00:37:56,010 --> 00:38:00,090 earned every single bit of a 0.75 GPA for one semester at 796 00:38:00,090 --> 00:38:02,090 college. Because when I went into a test 797 00:38:02,210 --> 00:38:04,650 and I didn't even know that the class was having a midterm that 798 00:38:04,650 --> 00:38:07,210 day, I still wouldn't look at anybody else's answers because I 799 00:38:07,210 --> 00:38:08,410 thought I was smarter than they were. 800 00:38:08,570 --> 00:38:11,010 And my my guess is we're going to be as good as anybody else's. 801 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,000 It turned out that I actually passed the the midterm. 802 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,720 I just skipped the the final on accident, so I ended up getting 803 00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,760 a D in the class. It doesn't work out real well, 804 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:22,160 but I I got a terrible GPA all on my own because I actually 805 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,280 believe in my own work. And it's like I maybe it's 806 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,280 arrogance, maybe it's hubris, maybe it's just the fact that I 807 00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:28,560 thought it was wrong to go and try to pull somebody else's 808 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:30,360 answers and I that would have waited on me forever. 809 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:32,600 I I just couldn't have done it. So anyway, they try to catch you 810 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:35,040 with this, but that's the closest I ever got to, you know, 811 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,480 a real invasive look into what kind of person I was. 812 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,080 And other than that, they went and pulled my medical records 813 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,720 and they talked to the psychologist I spoke to in the 814 00:38:41,720 --> 00:38:43,800 Air Force when I separated. And that was it. 815 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,480 I mean, there was nothing there. So it's not a lot of big looks. 816 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,120 And then you get these people that carry guns that have never 817 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,840 carried one before. No, I mean it's all across 818 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,720 America, the lowering of standards. 819 00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:56,800 I was in the gym yesterday and speaking to a guy who used to be 820 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,510 a trainer, teaching people how to fly helicopters. 821 00:38:59,510 --> 00:39:03,670 And anyone who is a pilot knows that you have to learn how to 822 00:39:03,670 --> 00:39:06,270 fly fixed wing before you can learn how to fly helicopters. 823 00:39:06,670 --> 00:39:09,990 And he got out of it because they were eliminating blocks of 824 00:39:09,990 --> 00:39:13,310 training that he felt it was important they were doing some 825 00:39:13,310 --> 00:39:18,350 of the training online. So this is just across the board 826 00:39:18,350 --> 00:39:21,550 in almost every aspect of our society, a lowering of of 827 00:39:21,550 --> 00:39:24,290 standards. It's it's everywhere. 828 00:39:24,330 --> 00:39:26,610 And you just talk about lowering of standards. 829 00:39:26,610 --> 00:39:30,090 It's kind of talk about the the the unequal application of 830 00:39:30,090 --> 00:39:32,130 standards if we can. We've seen what's been going on 831 00:39:32,130 --> 00:39:33,930 to J6, guys. I think a lot of people are so 832 00:39:33,930 --> 00:39:36,210 saturated with what's happened since 2020. 833 00:39:36,690 --> 00:39:39,570 I want to jump back to 2017. I've got a couple videos, Video 834 00:39:39,570 --> 00:39:41,450 5-6 and seven. Ryan, you can play them. 835 00:39:41,690 --> 00:39:43,850 They don't need audio, but it might not hurt to hear some of 836 00:39:43,850 --> 00:39:46,210 the crowd noises. Let's play video 5. 837 00:39:46,210 --> 00:39:47,890 This is coming from James O'keefe's Twitter feed. 838 00:39:47,890 --> 00:39:50,450 This goes back. It goes back five years now. 839 00:39:50,810 --> 00:39:53,270 Almost six years maybe. And let's just play a little bit 840 00:39:53,270 --> 00:39:56,390 of what was happening with the Disrupt J20 movement, and we'll 841 00:39:56,390 --> 00:39:58,270 talk about that in just a second, but let's sort of video 842 00:39:58,270 --> 00:40:23,700 up. And maybe if you can play Video 843 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:25,900 7 back-to-back and we'll talk about it in just a second, what 844 00:40:25,940 --> 00:40:28,100 these both are and then we'll get the context with Video six 845 00:40:28,100 --> 00:40:35,300 out. Thank you. 846 00:40:35,460 --> 00:40:58,860 Thank you. All right. 847 00:40:58,860 --> 00:41:00,540 That that's probably enough to see what we're talking about 848 00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:04,100 here. So that was obviously January 849 00:41:04,100 --> 00:41:07,660 6th of 2021. The the insurrection and the 850 00:41:07,660 --> 00:41:10,310 attack of the Capitol. Or not. 851 00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:13,150 That was actually Donald Trump's inauguration, which is where a 852 00:41:13,150 --> 00:41:16,710 bunch of lefty loonies tried to take over the US Capitol, the 853 00:41:16,710 --> 00:41:19,110 entire area. They were on the north side of 854 00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:20,670 the parade route, burning vehicles. 855 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:22,630 There's great pictures. You guys can go back and look If 856 00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:26,390 you want to type in Disrupt the letter J and the number 20 on 857 00:41:26,390 --> 00:41:29,830 your social media feeds with a hashtag on their #DISRUPT J20. 858 00:41:29,830 --> 00:41:32,230 You'll find in fact that they burned the Secret Service 859 00:41:32,230 --> 00:41:34,790 director's vehicle and his motorcade and some other things 860 00:41:34,790 --> 00:41:37,010 going on there. This was, there was an awful lot 861 00:41:37,010 --> 00:41:39,330 of like violent activity. I actually made a felony arrest 862 00:41:39,330 --> 00:41:41,290 on that day of a guy who was attacked in the US Park Police 863 00:41:41,290 --> 00:41:42,690 helicopter which I tweeted out today. 864 00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:46,410 All them were let go. Do you remember Disrupt J20 as a 865 00:41:46,530 --> 00:41:48,650 as a concept that was being floated in Boston at the time? 866 00:41:49,530 --> 00:42:01,450 Oh, absolutely no. We had, we had weekly CT Geez, 867 00:42:01,490 --> 00:42:05,690 Louise. KTTF meetings, KTTF meeting. 868 00:42:05,690 --> 00:42:10,250 So we would have our partners in with us to include members of 869 00:42:10,250 --> 00:42:14,690 the US Attorney's office and a lot of that street level 870 00:42:14,690 --> 00:42:18,250 intelligence came up from BPD, the Boston Police Department. 871 00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:24,850 So yeah, no, we we were very well aware of of these, this 872 00:42:24,850 --> 00:42:29,270 desire to raise hell on on inauguration Day and and and of 873 00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:31,550 course they did, they were doing the same thing that their whole 874 00:42:31,550 --> 00:42:33,750 goal was to disrupt the inauguration so that it couldn't 875 00:42:33,750 --> 00:42:34,950 happen. That was what they were actually 876 00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:37,350 their stated goal. If you'll do video number six, I 877 00:42:37,350 --> 00:42:39,390 think we've got some audio. This is undercover audio 878 00:42:39,390 --> 00:42:42,270 captured by the, the OG stuff that was going on at Project 879 00:42:42,270 --> 00:42:43,750 Veritas during the Trump administration. 880 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:45,230 If you want to play 6 for me, Ryan. 881 00:42:46,590 --> 00:42:49,710 Our journalists also infiltrated several groups operating under 882 00:42:49,710 --> 00:42:53,510 the main umbrella of Disrupt J20, like the Industrial Workers 883 00:42:53,510 --> 00:42:56,750 of the World, a quasi socialist group, the Metropolitan 884 00:42:56,750 --> 00:42:59,760 Anarchist Coordinating Council. And Refuse Fascism. 885 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,320 Our goal is to continue to help shut down. 886 00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:13,160 The city and like inauguration and giant cluster. 887 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,540 So we're not gonna publicly announce the route, but like we 888 00:43:17,580 --> 00:43:21,260 are planning a route that like will help us like jam up the 889 00:43:21,260 --> 00:43:26,060 works of this thing, like lots of marching against traffic on 890 00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:27,980 one way streets and stuff like that. 891 00:43:30,510 --> 00:43:33,110 So we're talking about a group of people that were hoping they 892 00:43:33,110 --> 00:43:35,590 could disrupt the peaceful transfer of power, which is what 893 00:43:35,590 --> 00:43:37,870 we've heard was going on. And then they actually showed up 894 00:43:37,870 --> 00:43:40,750 and did the thing as opposed to what we heard about on January 895 00:43:40,750 --> 00:43:43,550 6th of 2021, which was that a bunch of people showed up. 896 00:43:44,030 --> 00:43:45,990 Some people acted like morons. What did you say? 897 00:43:45,990 --> 00:43:47,670 Stupid people acting stupidly, George. 898 00:43:48,070 --> 00:43:49,830 Exactly. I said that in congressional 899 00:43:49,830 --> 00:43:51,350 testimony. They said, what would you call 900 00:43:51,350 --> 00:43:53,670 it, you know? And I said, yeah, I'll call it 901 00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:57,790 stupid people doing stupid SHIT 100%. 902 00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,680 So the differential was, is that the amount of prosecutions that 903 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,280 were run? Do you remember a big task force 904 00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,160 set up in Boston or any of the other Northeast states running 905 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,160 down the people that were trying to disrupt J20? 906 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,440 You mean in 2017? No, absolutely not. 907 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,240 Why was that? How come Trump didn't use this 908 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,440 weaponized DOJ that he had to go after everybody? 909 00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:24,280 Because it at that time, and I think it's a reasonable 910 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:27,980 approach. Between BPD and the state police 911 00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:30,460 and another local law enforcement, we felt that we had 912 00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:35,340 enough sources already embedded in some of these groups that we 913 00:44:35,340 --> 00:44:39,060 could simply disrupt anything before it occurred. 914 00:44:39,060 --> 00:44:44,660 There wasn't any effort for any kind of massive roundup or, you 915 00:44:44,660 --> 00:44:48,580 know, getting FISA set up on on American citizens on their 916 00:44:48,580 --> 00:44:52,380 social media accounts. There wasn't any of that. 917 00:44:54,150 --> 00:44:58,310 And now in hindsight, I don't think it was because the FBI and 918 00:44:58,310 --> 00:45:01,070 the DOJ were more temperate than. 919 00:45:01,350 --> 00:45:04,590 I think that the mindset was more from a leadership 920 00:45:04,590 --> 00:45:06,390 standpoint. Those few bad apples that I keep 921 00:45:06,430 --> 00:45:11,510 on hearing about that it's like these are our peeps and that's 922 00:45:11,510 --> 00:45:14,030 something that they sort of ideologically aligned with them. 923 00:45:14,030 --> 00:45:15,910 I certainly saw that in Portland when I went out there and I 924 00:45:15,910 --> 00:45:18,110 don't know how close you got to the the folks that were running 925 00:45:18,110 --> 00:45:20,710 the show out there, if you sent any of your your Intel people to 926 00:45:20,710 --> 00:45:24,400 go and do the were they calling it that, the TDY rotations 927 00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,080 there? No, but I do have a friend of 928 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,240 mine who shall remain nameless, who actually still works in the 929 00:45:30,240 --> 00:45:33,800 Portland office, and actually the former ASAC for CT. 930 00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:46,270 I just lost his audio. Do we lose George or can you 931 00:45:46,270 --> 00:45:49,230 guys hear him? No, we can hear him, OK. 932 00:45:50,350 --> 00:45:52,100 Lose. There you go. 933 00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:52,500 I got. You. 934 00:45:52,500 --> 00:45:53,460 We lost. Kyle. 935 00:45:53,460 --> 00:45:55,500 Lost you? Yeah, we're having some 936 00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:57,300 connection difficulties. I'm going to have to upgrade 937 00:45:57,300 --> 00:46:01,180 your your your digital fiber line that runs at your home so I 938 00:46:01,180 --> 00:46:02,740 can upstream some of your thoughts more. 939 00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:07,570 Well, I mean, you know, CTD is mostly focused on on, on you. 940 00:46:07,570 --> 00:46:10,290 I'm not CTD. Well, maybe see me on white 941 00:46:10,290 --> 00:46:12,090 supremacist the socalled white supra. 942 00:46:12,290 --> 00:46:15,050 Pile, you know, now that they've had to, you know, jump in, you 943 00:46:15,050 --> 00:46:19,370 know, with me they just it's it's it's straining their 944 00:46:19,370 --> 00:46:21,450 bandwidth, which is disrupting our activities. 945 00:46:21,450 --> 00:46:22,850 That's it. They're pulling all of it out of 946 00:46:22,850 --> 00:46:24,170 there. It's sad when we think that that 947 00:46:24,170 --> 00:46:26,370 like, is a it's it's mostly a joke. 948 00:46:26,990 --> 00:46:28,950 But like I said, I I went and bought a gun the other day at 949 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:30,190 the store. And when I told the lady, go 950 00:46:30,190 --> 00:46:32,030 ahead and just e-mail it so the FBI knows what I'm buying. 951 00:46:32,030 --> 00:46:33,830 I don't need to hide it. I don't need a paper trail. 952 00:46:33,990 --> 00:46:35,310 We might as well make a digital for him. 953 00:46:35,590 --> 00:46:37,630 And she laughed. And I was like, that's not me 954 00:46:37,630 --> 00:46:39,190 being funny. That's me being serious. 955 00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:41,190 There's almost no doubt in my mind that there's a 956 00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:42,750 counterintelligence investigation with me. 957 00:46:42,750 --> 00:46:44,070 I've already spoken to somebody in Russia. 958 00:46:44,070 --> 00:46:48,070 So that's enough. You you want to can we broadly 959 00:46:48,070 --> 00:46:50,470 talk about that? I know that that CRA is actually 960 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:53,630 published out what is essentially the the gist. 961 00:46:53,630 --> 00:46:56,350 And I don't know how they got it, but the gist of Appendix G 962 00:46:56,780 --> 00:46:59,260 within the diog. So it's it's publicly available 963 00:46:59,260 --> 00:47:01,060 now for people to see it and I'll tweet it out later today if 964 00:47:01,060 --> 00:47:02,140 you're not following my Twitter feed. 965 00:47:02,420 --> 00:47:05,580 But just how easy it is to open up an Intel investigation to 966 00:47:05,580 --> 00:47:07,460 someone what that predicate Bart burden looks like? 967 00:47:09,620 --> 00:47:13,260 Being able to fog a mirror, I mean, it really is that low. 968 00:47:14,180 --> 00:47:16,340 Yeah. I mean, being an intelligence 969 00:47:16,340 --> 00:47:19,060 supervisor, you know, for example, you know an 970 00:47:19,060 --> 00:47:24,380 intelligence analyst cannot cite a any work done by. 971 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,640 Not the ADL. Who's the other one? 972 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,200 The SPL. CSPLC. 973 00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:34,160 Exactly. So you know, I'll see an Intel 974 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:37,200 product and I'll take a look at it and I have to put my college 975 00:47:37,240 --> 00:47:41,920 professor hat on then and go and start doing you know searches 976 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:45,200 for what would if it were a college paper looking for 977 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,080 plagiarism. And if I can find something from 978 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,360 the SPLC I'll, I'll I'll kick it back and and you know but the 979 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:58,720 truth of the matter is is that. Just because they're not allowed 980 00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:01,880 to use public, you know, information coming from the SPLC 981 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:05,840 or other left wing organizations, you almost can't 982 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,920 stop them. Stop their their mind from 983 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,520 embracing that and and I can stop them from using that as an 984 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:17,680 actual source. The fact is that they. 985 00:48:18,070 --> 00:48:21,550 They meaning the analyst and to some extent the agents. 986 00:48:21,550 --> 00:48:25,230 Although my optic is not as good on them as is on the analysts, 987 00:48:25,910 --> 00:48:29,230 they embrace that ideology and if they can't use it overtly, 988 00:48:29,230 --> 00:48:32,590 they'll use it covertly. Yeah, most certainly. 989 00:48:32,590 --> 00:48:35,150 So I think what you're getting at is that these people may go 990 00:48:35,150 --> 00:48:38,030 read something from SPLC. They will internalize what that 991 00:48:38,030 --> 00:48:41,430 that dialogue is and then they'll go parallel source it 992 00:48:41,430 --> 00:48:43,110 through someone else using slightly different words. 993 00:48:43,110 --> 00:48:45,910 And it'll be a slightly more acceptable source of 994 00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:48,230 information, whether it be a college paper or something else 995 00:48:48,230 --> 00:48:49,950 or some professor wrote something or speech. 996 00:48:50,190 --> 00:48:52,710 And then they can go and they can basically launder that 997 00:48:52,710 --> 00:48:56,910 position from SPLC or even the the Anti Defamation League or 998 00:48:56,910 --> 00:48:58,750 whatever. It may be some leftist source 999 00:48:58,990 --> 00:49:01,750 and the launder it into an Intel product by finding somebody else 1000 00:49:01,750 --> 00:49:05,350 that said it in a slightly less, you know, extreme way or 1001 00:49:05,350 --> 00:49:07,190 whatever it is. Yeah, exactly. 1002 00:49:07,190 --> 00:49:11,510 I mean, when I, when I did my briefings at NSA was in a 5I. 1003 00:49:13,980 --> 00:49:17,820 Forum there with the director of NSA and occasionally he would, 1004 00:49:18,060 --> 00:49:20,340 you know, ask the question that was not suitable for the five I 1005 00:49:20,340 --> 00:49:23,380 community. And I would just go out and you 1006 00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:27,940 know find another source somewhere that I could, you know 1007 00:49:28,660 --> 00:49:31,540 that I could brief, you know, it's not not that hard. 1008 00:49:31,540 --> 00:49:34,100 You can do it in almost any aspect of your life, whether 1009 00:49:34,100 --> 00:49:37,780 it's academia or in federal law enforcement. 1010 00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,960 Yeah, we used to always call that talking around the 1011 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,880 classified material. If you can go find it open 1012 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:43,680 source, you're referencing something that has been 1013 00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,600 published and, you know, makes a supposition or make some 1014 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:48,400 analysis or maybe it was leaked, who knows. 1015 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880 But the fact is is you can source it to something other 1016 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,830 than your classified knowledge. You go, here's some information, 1017 00:49:53,910 --> 00:49:56,830 hence my, my point on CRA. The Center for Renewing America 1018 00:49:56,830 --> 00:49:59,950 has basically said that you can open intelligence investigation 1019 00:49:59,950 --> 00:50:03,870 to someone who is either the target of a foreign Intel 1020 00:50:03,870 --> 00:50:07,070 service or who is actively working for them. 1021 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:09,270 But the target part is the part where it's like, that doesn't 1022 00:50:09,270 --> 00:50:11,590 mean that they agreed to it. That's the thing that's so scary 1023 00:50:11,590 --> 00:50:13,270 for most people. You talk about fogging a mirror. 1024 00:50:13,510 --> 00:50:16,150 If somebody has the possibility of being interesting, and you 1025 00:50:16,150 --> 00:50:18,670 and I are clearly interesting to a foreign Intel service, then 1026 00:50:18,670 --> 00:50:20,670 that's an easy open. It's 100% like, well, they might 1027 00:50:20,670 --> 00:50:22,590 be, they might be. Literally. 1028 00:50:22,590 --> 00:50:24,430 It doesn't have to have the burden that they are or that 1029 00:50:24,430 --> 00:50:27,470 anyone's ever even discussed it. The fact that I got an e-mail on 1030 00:50:27,470 --> 00:50:30,270 Twitter from somebody or a DM on Twitter from somebody in Iran, 1031 00:50:30,510 --> 00:50:32,590 you know, who works for their state funded media, that's 1032 00:50:32,590 --> 00:50:34,310 enough. That would be plenty to 1033 00:50:34,710 --> 00:50:36,910 predicate. It's an easier argument to make 1034 00:50:36,910 --> 00:50:39,950 than a direct message to From Someone to Kyle Seraph and 1035 00:50:39,950 --> 00:50:44,310 saying you should talk to me. It really is that simple the 1036 00:50:44,350 --> 00:50:47,550 ability to fog a mirror. It's it's sad. 1037 00:50:47,550 --> 00:50:51,350 But I mean and and you and Steve Friend and and others have 1038 00:50:51,350 --> 00:50:56,430 talked about this at length since I've known you, that the 1039 00:50:56,830 --> 00:51:02,870 the whole intelligence apparatus there are no barriers to to 1040 00:51:02,870 --> 00:51:06,670 collection. It's it's a giant Roomba running 1041 00:51:06,670 --> 00:51:12,150 around 24/7 hoovering up all manner of information, and then 1042 00:51:12,150 --> 00:51:15,270 it's incentivized as to how many of those you can actually turn 1043 00:51:15,270 --> 00:51:17,900 into. To into a full field 1044 00:51:17,900 --> 00:51:21,260 investigation, what's so it's a giant Roomba that just roams the 1045 00:51:21,260 --> 00:51:24,220 country hoovering up everything it can. 1046 00:51:24,540 --> 00:51:27,580 And then some intelligence analysts, you know, with pink 1047 00:51:27,580 --> 00:51:30,900 hair, with a degree in International Studies from 1048 00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:34,740 George Washington University is going to turn it into an Intel 1049 00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:37,180 product and and we're off to the races. 1050 00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,220 I know she. Is that simple? 1051 00:51:39,300 --> 00:51:39,860 No. I know. 1052 00:51:39,900 --> 00:51:43,380 And I and I work with she her. I'm sorry, I said. 1053 00:51:43,380 --> 00:51:45,400 I worked with she her. I know who that is. 1054 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:46,880 Yeah. Those those Intel analyst you're 1055 00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaking of. The crazy thing is that's the 1056 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,280 way that the Chinese intelligence apparatus was 1057 00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:51,640 described to me when I started working. 1058 00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,560 Chinese CI exactly that way. A giant vacuum cleaner that 1059 00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:57,560 sucks up all the possible information and then it goes and 1060 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:00,000 sorts it out when they have time and bandwidth and we're doing 1061 00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:03,600 the same. Since you mentioned just real 1062 00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,360 brief, maybe not part of this podcast, but it's important for 1063 00:52:06,360 --> 00:52:08,600 your audience to know. The Chinese do suck up 1064 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:12,280 everything, but they have better supercomputing capabilities and. 1065 00:52:13,730 --> 00:52:18,650 Since they have all the SF80 sixes, all the hotel data, all 1066 00:52:18,650 --> 00:52:21,650 the medical records of everybody who has a clearance, their 1067 00:52:21,650 --> 00:52:24,450 computers actually just delivered the sort through that 1068 00:52:24,450 --> 00:52:29,050 and deliver targeting packages to a case agent every day. 1069 00:52:30,570 --> 00:52:34,450 So the Chinese are doing the same thing, but in a far more 1070 00:52:34,450 --> 00:52:36,770 sophisticated and targeted fashion. 1071 00:52:36,850 --> 00:52:39,370 I'm going to restate what you just said, the OPM hack that 1072 00:52:39,370 --> 00:52:41,850 happened after I was hired. So my information is part of 1073 00:52:41,850 --> 00:52:43,050 that, and I know yours is as well. 1074 00:52:43,490 --> 00:52:46,490 The SF86 is every place you've ever lived, all the known 1075 00:52:46,490 --> 00:52:49,610 acquaintances in those areas, the full security package that 1076 00:52:49,610 --> 00:52:51,730 we put together in order to get a clearance, whether secret or 1077 00:52:51,730 --> 00:52:53,730 top secret. And you fill these things out 1078 00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:56,010 with all of your, you know, access to medical records and so 1079 00:52:56,010 --> 00:52:56,850 on. They put together this big 1080 00:52:56,850 --> 00:52:58,210 package. This is the vetting that we were 1081 00:52:58,210 --> 00:53:00,170 talking about earlier. This is the paper vetting. 1082 00:53:00,170 --> 00:53:02,810 At least the Chinese managed to hack the Office of Personnel 1083 00:53:02,810 --> 00:53:07,730 Management in what, 2016 or 17, we just lost, George, they they 1084 00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:09,090 grabbed all this. There's a Chinese for you. 1085 00:53:09,330 --> 00:53:12,730 They they grabbed all this stuff and they managed to get it all 1086 00:53:13,590 --> 00:53:16,430 sorted out and we were all basically given a three-year 1087 00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:19,950 subscription to LifeLock as sort of the sorry that we screwed up 1088 00:53:19,950 --> 00:53:22,710 your your world and sorry that we we gave access to all this 1089 00:53:22,710 --> 00:53:25,150 Chinese information. They just, they took it all. 1090 00:53:25,270 --> 00:53:27,630 They were able to like he said, break it down in a supercomputer 1091 00:53:27,630 --> 00:53:29,670 and they can do targeting packages that are very specific, 1092 00:53:29,790 --> 00:53:32,310 whereas the US is still sort of like trying to grab all this 1093 00:53:32,310 --> 00:53:33,710 information. They don't have that on every 1094 00:53:33,710 --> 00:53:35,590 American citizen, although I imagine they probably have 1095 00:53:35,590 --> 00:53:38,070 access to all the DoD records if they wanted, which is a lot of 1096 00:53:38,070 --> 00:53:40,600 us. Yeah, I'm concerned about that. 1097 00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,480 I mean the FBI is developing the capability. 1098 00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:46,440 SISSA certainly has the capability and then they're 1099 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:51,880 partnering with Silicon Valley who absolutely has the 1100 00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:55,880 capability. So when we talk about you know 1101 00:53:55,880 --> 00:54:01,320 the the 2024 election and some of the concerns we have, you 1102 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:07,720 know if, if, if big DOJ&FBI&DHS and. 1103 00:54:08,790 --> 00:54:14,790 HSI need to do selective targeting, the capability still 1104 00:54:14,790 --> 00:54:17,070 there. It may not be as sophisticated 1105 00:54:17,070 --> 00:54:23,270 and as well used as the Chinese, but rest assured that if if 1106 00:54:23,270 --> 00:54:26,670 somebody in a in a conference room deems you as legitimate 1107 00:54:26,670 --> 00:54:28,830 threat, that needs to be removed. 1108 00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:32,120 Even if it's just temporarily, let's just lock you in the DC 1109 00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,200 federal Detention facility for a couple years without any 1110 00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,920 pretrial hearing and let's just get this election over with. 1111 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:41,160 Yeah, and that's something I want to We talked about some of 1112 00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,720 the the sophisticated methods of gathering intelligence. 1113 00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,240 Let's talk about something really base level. 1114 00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:47,720 Ryan, if you'll pull up, let me see what what topic that was. 1115 00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,320 Topic #3 for me specifically to the screenshot from Liberty 1116 00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,000 safes. I know as a gun owner, this is a 1117 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,400 concern for you. So I'm just going to read this 1118 00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,000 right off. This is the statement made by 1119 00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,650 Liberty Safe, who is the the the manufacturer of the safe that 1120 00:54:59,650 --> 00:55:01,530 this guy Nathan Hughes had at his house. 1121 00:55:01,690 --> 00:55:04,210 We just saw his arrest and this is what they said. 1122 00:55:04,210 --> 00:55:07,130 On August 30th, 2023, Liberty Safe was contacted by the FBI 1123 00:55:07,130 --> 00:55:11,010 requesting the access code to the safe of an individual for 1124 00:55:11,010 --> 00:55:13,250 whom they had a warrant to search their property. 1125 00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:16,140 Our company policy. This scares the hell out of me 1126 00:55:16,140 --> 00:55:18,540 By the way. Our company policy and protocol 1127 00:55:18,540 --> 00:55:21,580 is to provide access to law enforcement if a warrant grants 1128 00:55:21,580 --> 00:55:24,460 them access to a property. After receiving the request, we 1129 00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:26,980 received proof of the valid warrant and then only then did 1130 00:55:26,980 --> 00:55:28,460 we provide them with an access code. 1131 00:55:28,620 --> 00:55:30,820 Liberty Safe had no knowledge of any of the details surrounding 1132 00:55:30,820 --> 00:55:33,740 the investigation at the time. And then it goes on with his BS 1133 00:55:33,740 --> 00:55:35,300 statement about how they're interested in protecting 1134 00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:37,580 personal property and 2nd Amendment rights and has 1135 00:55:37,580 --> 00:55:39,860 repeatedly denied a request for access codes without a warrant. 1136 00:55:40,590 --> 00:55:42,790 And they don't give out their conversations without proper 1137 00:55:42,790 --> 00:55:45,030 legal documentation provided by authorities. 1138 00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:48,670 This, to me, George, is a lot like what you were dealing with, 1139 00:55:49,070 --> 00:55:52,510 Warren or no. I've never heard of seeking out 1140 00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:55,630 a an access code and I've never heard of a private company 1141 00:55:55,630 --> 00:55:58,750 saying, yeah, you can have this. The fact that they retain it 1142 00:55:58,830 --> 00:55:59,870 scares the living hell out of me. 1143 00:55:59,870 --> 00:56:01,310 I have no idea why that would be the case. 1144 00:56:01,590 --> 00:56:04,750 Have you ever thought that that companies would give up like 1145 00:56:04,750 --> 00:56:08,070 codes to your personal safe? Do we lose them? 1146 00:56:08,310 --> 00:56:23,130 There he is. You know, that's why, you know, 1147 00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:25,530 when I raised the Bank of America issue, I think it was so 1148 00:56:25,530 --> 00:56:29,210 important is that there are no boundaries. 1149 00:56:29,330 --> 00:56:34,450 You know, going back to your original Ivy intrusion analysis 1150 00:56:34,450 --> 00:56:38,730 and and and you know, there are no boundaries to anything. 1151 00:56:38,730 --> 00:56:41,650 So yeah, I'll just ask them for the codes and and they'll give 1152 00:56:41,650 --> 00:56:45,610 them to me. So yeah, it's not Bank of 1153 00:56:45,610 --> 00:56:47,010 America, It's not on a grand scale. 1154 00:56:47,010 --> 00:56:49,890 It's not January 6th, but it's the same mindset. 1155 00:56:50,530 --> 00:56:53,450 Of of people thinking that they're doing their patriotic 1156 00:56:53,450 --> 00:56:55,530 duty and, quote, defending democracy. 1157 00:56:55,530 --> 00:56:58,850 Well, if you're ignorant and you don't know the Constitution in 1158 00:56:58,850 --> 00:57:01,930 the Bill of Rights and you don't understand that we actually live 1159 00:57:01,930 --> 00:57:04,770 in a constitutional Republic, then they probably actually 1160 00:57:04,770 --> 00:57:07,890 believe that they are doing their patriotic duty. 1161 00:57:08,610 --> 00:57:11,990 Pains me to say that out loud. The the irony that that they're 1162 00:57:11,990 --> 00:57:14,750 called liberty safes and decided to cooperate with the government 1163 00:57:14,750 --> 00:57:16,790 on anything. I've been on search warrants 1164 00:57:16,790 --> 00:57:18,870 where they were safes and the option was always the same. 1165 00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:20,790 It's like you can give us the code or we're going to crack the 1166 00:57:20,790 --> 00:57:22,590 safe. Either way, we're getting into 1167 00:57:22,590 --> 00:57:25,110 this and there are easy ways to get into it, which I'm about to 1168 00:57:25,110 --> 00:57:27,590 show some people because I think it's relevant for for gun owners 1169 00:57:27,590 --> 00:57:29,430 to know and for people that want to protect their valuable 1170 00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:31,230 property. Your residential safety 1171 00:57:31,230 --> 00:57:35,190 container is only as safe as as basically your access to the 1172 00:57:35,190 --> 00:57:37,510 property you want to go. Ahead one more point, we going 1173 00:57:37,510 --> 00:57:40,430 back to what you were when you show that video from the Hodge 1174 00:57:40,430 --> 00:57:47,390 twins on that takedown. But and in my analysis regarding 1175 00:57:47,830 --> 00:57:52,190 the Hogan's Alley and the FBI Academy, the reason they want to 1176 00:57:52,190 --> 00:57:55,350 get access to the safe is for the safety of the agent. 1177 00:57:56,910 --> 00:58:00,110 And I said that that was paramount and I saw that and 1178 00:58:00,110 --> 00:58:03,700 evidence in the training. That's why they want to do this. 1179 00:58:03,700 --> 00:58:08,420 This is this is not about executing a safe arrest warrant 1180 00:58:08,540 --> 00:58:11,620 with, you know, with no loss of life and minimal damage. 1181 00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:14,540 This is about protecting the safety of the agent. 1182 00:58:14,860 --> 00:58:16,860 You think it's because they want to make sure that there are no 1183 00:58:16,860 --> 00:58:19,580 guns that are even even secured guns on the property. 1184 00:58:19,580 --> 00:58:21,780 That's what it's about. I know that's what it's about 1185 00:58:21,820 --> 00:58:23,540 because I couldn't figure it out in my heart. 1186 00:58:23,700 --> 00:58:25,420 I couldn't figure it out what in the hell they need to get in 1187 00:58:25,420 --> 00:58:26,740 there for. For a misdemeanor charge where 1188 00:58:26,740 --> 00:58:29,740 he threw his elbow in the direction of a shield of a 1189 00:58:29,780 --> 00:58:31,100 police officers what they alleged. 1190 00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:34,020 Yeah. No, we did this for our 1191 00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:35,940 takedowns. You know, does that person have 1192 00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:39,020 a gun license? Has there been any firearms 1193 00:58:39,020 --> 00:58:41,060 charges related to this person there? 1194 00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:43,660 Is there anybody in his family that has a gun license? 1195 00:58:44,380 --> 00:58:50,740 This is all part of FBI Agent Safety. 1196 00:58:50,740 --> 00:58:54,500 Now we can have that discussion of what the level of safety 1197 00:58:54,500 --> 00:58:57,710 should be. I come down because I have put 1198 00:58:57,710 --> 00:59:00,510 my life at risk multiple times, obviously not in the law 1199 00:59:00,510 --> 00:59:05,470 enforcement role, but it comes down to a mitigated risk. 1200 00:59:05,790 --> 00:59:10,270 And what they're saying is, is that we're going to eliminate 1201 00:59:10,350 --> 00:59:13,950 person's constitutional protections in favor of 100% 1202 00:59:14,030 --> 00:59:17,730 agent safety, which is horrific. I think I want to do an entire 1203 00:59:17,730 --> 00:59:20,010 show on that with you and Stephen Garrett and maybe we'll 1204 00:59:20,010 --> 00:59:22,210 get some other cops from the local level about the risk 1205 00:59:22,210 --> 00:59:24,530 they're willing to assume and the presence of firearms. 1206 00:59:24,530 --> 00:59:26,730 I think the the, I think the federal government in general 1207 00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:31,050 trains agents to be looking at firearms as like in the same way 1208 00:59:31,050 --> 00:59:34,370 they do serial numbers. My my buddy Steve Stambolia, 1209 00:59:34,370 --> 00:59:36,330 who's who we call the machine gun lawyer and he's going to 1210 00:59:36,330 --> 00:59:38,250 come back on. He's made arguments in court 1211 00:59:38,250 --> 00:59:40,250 that the reason that the government thinks that there 1212 00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:43,350 should be a serial number is for tracking in the case of a gun 1213 00:59:43,350 --> 00:59:45,630 crime. But that presupposes that every 1214 00:59:45,630 --> 00:59:47,830 gun will be used in a crime. And he's made a successful 1215 00:59:47,830 --> 00:59:50,510 argument right now in front of the the Dallas District Court, 1216 00:59:50,830 --> 00:59:53,910 the the I think the eastern, the Northern District of Texas. 1217 00:59:54,190 --> 00:59:58,390 And stating that that this is a a false assumption that a very, 1218 00:59:58,390 --> 01:00:02,310 very small fraction of 1% of guns, like it's like a 10th of a 1219 01:00:02,310 --> 01:00:04,150 percent of guns are actually used in crimes. 1220 01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:07,550 And to make every single one of them presupposed against the 1221 01:00:07,590 --> 01:00:10,990 odds that they will be used in a crime is sort of indicative of 1222 01:00:10,990 --> 01:00:13,310 the government's position, which is that guns are dangerous MK 1223 01:00:13,310 --> 01:00:16,230 and they're bad MK and they rather side with a David Hogg. 1224 01:00:16,590 --> 01:00:19,190 Then what the actual constitution says, which is why 1225 01:00:19,190 --> 01:00:21,990 these these boundaries that we have these green barriers in the 1226 01:00:21,990 --> 01:00:23,840 garden. Are so important, you have to 1227 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:25,120 have them. But I think it starts with 1228 01:00:25,120 --> 01:00:27,160 speech. I'd rather not get to a Second 1229 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,040 Amendment situation, but the government needs to respect it 1230 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:32,600 as well and it doesn't. Now, and one more thing. 1231 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,160 You talked about the serial numbers ghost guns. 1232 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,760 The number of ghost guns. You put that in air quotes for 1233 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,400 me. Yeah. 1234 01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:42,360 I can't take it. It's not a serious thing for 1235 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:39,920 anyone who's manufactured a gun. It's, it's. 1236 01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,720 I can walk over to my safe right now and pulling out that I've 1237 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:48,710 made myself and you know, and I would never carry it. 1238 01:00:48,750 --> 01:00:51,470 I would never carry the so-called ghost gun over a 1239 01:00:51,830 --> 01:00:53,910 commercially manufactured firearm because the tolerances 1240 01:00:53,910 --> 01:00:56,390 are not right. And so it's it's fun to shoot. 1241 01:00:56,390 --> 01:00:58,390 It's a cool project. It's a neat hobby gun. 1242 01:00:58,590 --> 01:00:59,630 There's nothing wrong with having it. 1243 01:00:59,630 --> 01:01:00,830 There's American tradition behind it. 1244 01:01:00,830 --> 01:01:04,150 But the idea that you would carry like a milled lower 1245 01:01:04,150 --> 01:01:07,460 receiver on a handgun that that you milled is that's a crazy 1246 01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:09,420 person that wants to do that if that's what your only method of 1247 01:01:09,420 --> 01:01:11,260 protection is. Cuz I guarantee you my Glock and 1248 01:01:11,260 --> 01:01:13,500 my Sig are going to be a lot more reliable and they've been 1249 01:01:13,500 --> 01:01:15,460 proven. I've proven that thing is not, 1250 01:01:15,660 --> 01:01:17,100 you know it doesn't always fire right? 1251 01:01:17,220 --> 01:01:19,140 Not the way I want to. Look, I, one of my analysts 1252 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:21,420 wrote a paper intelligence bolts in on ghost guns. 1253 01:01:21,420 --> 01:01:23,460 You know as much as I didn't want to you know let it go 1254 01:01:23,460 --> 01:01:27,660 forward, you know, but I got the least got the language changed 1255 01:01:27,660 --> 01:01:32,020 to the point or tightened it up that in terms of crimes it and 1256 01:01:32,140 --> 01:01:36,390 and even suicides. The number of occurrences is 1257 01:01:36,430 --> 01:01:39,030 almost immeasurable. It's like a half a dozen places 1258 01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:40,830 to the right of the decimal point, right? 1259 01:01:40,910 --> 01:01:42,950 It's I mean it's just it's a boogeyman in the same way the 1260 01:01:43,030 --> 01:01:44,750 AR50. Is boogie man when you talk 1261 01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:46,710 about the number of deaths in this country, all right? 1262 01:01:47,150 --> 01:01:50,090 We talked about the residential safety containers most safe that 1263 01:01:50,090 --> 01:01:52,490 you guys are having these Liberty, Liberty safes and 1264 01:01:52,490 --> 01:01:53,970 others these quote UN quote gun safes. 1265 01:01:54,130 --> 01:01:56,810 The word safe is actually not it actually is a legal term. 1266 01:01:56,930 --> 01:01:58,930 These things are legally referred to as residential 1267 01:01:58,930 --> 01:02:00,930 safety containers. I'm going to show you a couple 1268 01:02:00,930 --> 01:02:03,530 videos right now. I want you to understand why it 1269 01:02:03,530 --> 01:02:06,090 is an illusion, why it is so easy for law enforcement to 1270 01:02:06,090 --> 01:02:08,970 enter and why you don't need to go and have the the company like 1271 01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:11,130 Liberty break their trust with you. 1272 01:02:11,490 --> 01:02:15,790 We've got let's do video #1I. I'm saying Liberty Safe is the 1273 01:02:15,790 --> 01:02:17,830 new Bud Light because they've named themselves something that 1274 01:02:17,830 --> 01:02:20,270 is supposed to be for Americans and patriots who want to protect 1275 01:02:20,270 --> 01:02:22,630 their liberties and yet they're going to roll over for the FBI. 1276 01:02:22,630 --> 01:02:25,590 This is how easy it is to get into one of these safes if 1277 01:02:25,590 --> 01:02:28,550 somebody is so serious and has control of the situation the way 1278 01:02:28,550 --> 01:02:30,750 a law enforcement entity does. Video one, if you'll roll it. 1279 01:02:30,750 --> 01:02:36,110 Ryan, I can't remember for running this with or without 1280 01:02:36,110 --> 01:02:39,710 audio, but we've come to Liberty Safe to give you some 1281 01:02:39,710 --> 01:02:42,190 information on what they look for when you're buying an entry 1282 01:02:42,190 --> 01:02:43,930 level safe. We're here with Jamie Scounson 1283 01:02:43,930 --> 01:02:46,570 from Liberty Safe. Jamie, tell me about it. 1284 01:02:46,770 --> 01:02:48,770 All right, let's skip forward a little bit until they start 1285 01:02:48,770 --> 01:02:51,210 doing the prior attacks. If you can okay they're between 1286 01:02:51,210 --> 01:02:52,810 5:00 and $600.00. Okay. 1287 01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:55,570 Well, we stop and give me one. 2nd is to put them to the test 1288 01:02:55,570 --> 01:02:58,690 on a pride test to see how strong they are. 1289 01:02:58,890 --> 01:03:00,810 Yeah, pride test. You know, that makes sense 1290 01:03:00,810 --> 01:03:03,480 because OK, so this is the pry test. 1291 01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,200 They give these guys 5 minutes to pry it open. 1292 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,600 It's two men with pry bars. We probably don't even need the 1293 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,240 audio, but they managed to crack the first set of bolts. 12 1294 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:16,480 seconds at 12 seconds. So you're seeing this pop open. 1295 01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:18,200 Basically, these guys have two man pry bar. 1296 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,760 One guy opens up the space, the other guy gets into the door. 1297 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:22,960 These are actually easier if they're bolted to the ground. 1298 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:24,560 It's harder the way they're doing it because they don't have 1299 01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:27,040 a stable base to brace against. But you can pop these things 1300 01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,320 open with pry bars in under 30 seconds. 1301 01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,440 You'll see these guys do it in about 39 seconds. 1302 01:03:31,850 --> 01:03:33,650 This is a stack on from the look of it. 1303 01:03:33,650 --> 01:03:35,970 I had one just like it. They're very heavy. 1304 01:03:35,970 --> 01:03:37,410 There's they're hundreds of pounds. 1305 01:03:37,610 --> 01:03:40,410 Most of that weight is actually going to be in commercial 1306 01:03:40,410 --> 01:03:42,130 drywall which is a fire retardant. 1307 01:03:42,290 --> 01:03:43,330 That's why they have them in there. 1308 01:03:43,490 --> 01:03:47,010 It's very, very thin steel in the in the realm of like 18, 1309 01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:50,330 maybe 14 gauge at the highest they pop it open in 39 seconds 1310 01:03:50,330 --> 01:03:52,090 if you're watching the video. So you can see two guys with 1311 01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:55,920 with crowbars on a non secured surface we'll we'll kind of 1312 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,800 watch forward. Once again these things are all 1313 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,680 in the four to $600.00 range. You can buy these at any kind of 1314 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,160 a sporting goods store. The Liberty Hill one are the the 1315 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,880 Liberty safe is is a little bit longer on their attack because 1316 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:08,560 it's got better bars but that assumes A frontal attack that 1317 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,680 you're going to go in and try and pry the doors open so you'll 1318 01:04:10,680 --> 01:04:12,680 show this one they'll pop this thing open in like 10 or 12 1319 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,360 seconds. I think it's just a matter of 1320 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,400 getting your attack done. So this is your smash and grab 1321 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,040 job. This is keeping honest people 1322 01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:20,880 honest when we talk about the way a safe would work. 1323 01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:23,050 And if you guys have never seen this done before and you have 1324 01:04:23,050 --> 01:04:25,250 some illusion that this heavy safe that you've been moving 1325 01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:27,370 around or one of your buddies has a safe there, you got 21 1326 01:04:27,370 --> 01:04:29,850 seconds popped right open. That one looks just like they 1327 01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:31,850 all look the same. They're all like stack on style. 1328 01:04:32,690 --> 01:04:35,010 Let's do video #2 because video #2. 1329 01:04:35,010 --> 01:04:37,330 And I think we have to start a little bit late in the video 1330 01:04:37,810 --> 01:04:39,890 it's at 935 Ryan if you'll do it. 1331 01:04:40,050 --> 01:04:43,010 This is a video that is shown of a of a liberty safe actually 1332 01:04:43,010 --> 01:04:45,400 cracking open. We can run a couple of minutes 1333 01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,520 on the pry bar here, but it's it's just the same thing. 1334 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,360 It's just dudes, you know, doing a pry bar attack on slightly 1335 01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,680 better bars. Let's let's switch over to video 1336 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,560 #2 if you would. And they say they and they said 1337 01:04:54,560 --> 01:04:56,040 they didn't get into the Liberty safe. 1338 01:04:56,040 --> 01:04:57,800 They had two minutes here on this one and they couldn't get 1339 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,480 into it, correct. And I got the next video ready. 1340 01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,720 Yeah, let's do the next video. So, folks, you can see Liberty 1341 01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:03,720 Safe is supposed to be slightly better on a pry attack, which 1342 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:04,640 means they're going through the door. 1343 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,400 But here's how you actually get into one of these things. 1344 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:08,440 Do video #2 for me. I don't think we need sound 1345 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:08,800 either. Give. 1346 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,120 Me one second. I just got to kill the sound, be 1347 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:13,160 playing it. No problem. 1348 01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:16,720 Okay. So this one is not a liberty. 1349 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,680 This is actually going to be a Winchester safe. 1350 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:20,560 They're pretty much the same. The same idea. 1351 01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,160 And this is a company that I've actually bought safes from. 1352 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,240 I have no money invested in them. 1353 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:27,520 They don't pay us anything. But this is a guy who works for 1354 01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:30,520 a company called Secure it and his point is, is you can spend 1355 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:33,320 these hundreds of dollars on these fancy extremely heavy. 1356 01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,440 You know I've actually moved one down to my basement one time in 1357 01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,000 Virginia. George and I, I'm one of my 1358 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,580 buddies almost lost his thumb, you know, pounding against the 1359 01:05:40,580 --> 01:05:42,860 wall. He was a Marine, so I think he 1360 01:05:42,860 --> 01:05:45,300 would have been okay. But he we had this thing kind of 1361 01:05:45,300 --> 01:05:46,700 get away from us going down the stairs. 1362 01:05:46,940 --> 01:05:49,140 And you're noticing this guy's basically just got a basic 1363 01:05:49,380 --> 01:05:54,220 corded circular saw and a carbide bit and he's about to 1364 01:05:54,220 --> 01:05:55,940 just throw this thing off. And you're seeing it in real 1365 01:05:55,940 --> 01:05:58,300 time, like in the time that I've spoken, started speaking to you. 1366 01:05:58,540 --> 01:06:01,060 He's able to cut the top off these things because this the 1367 01:06:01,060 --> 01:06:05,060 steel is such thin gauge there's almost nothing there and it's 1368 01:06:05,060 --> 01:06:07,580 really really quite easy of it other than he's getting a face 1369 01:06:07,580 --> 01:06:10,930 load of of dust coming out of the drywall but you're going to 1370 01:06:10,930 --> 01:06:12,850 see him pop. This thing opens like a soda pop 1371 01:06:12,850 --> 01:06:18,370 can and here it is just just man strength alone is able to be 1372 01:06:18,370 --> 01:06:20,890 able to pull that thing open. That should kind of unsettle you 1373 01:06:20,890 --> 01:06:23,570 and it should tell you that the idea that that the the safe 1374 01:06:23,570 --> 01:06:28,490 company needs to comply with with the FBI or have have the 1375 01:06:28,490 --> 01:06:31,370 codes ready in case of this is really, really disturbing. 1376 01:06:31,370 --> 01:06:34,260 The fact that they keep track of the sort of thing you're just 1377 01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:35,420 seeing this guy basically turn it around. 1378 01:06:35,580 --> 01:06:37,820 Video #3 has a similar thing. I think they actually attack a 1379 01:06:37,820 --> 01:06:40,060 Liberty branded safe although they they block it out. 1380 01:06:40,180 --> 01:06:42,260 You can show video 32. You don't need any sound on that 1381 01:06:42,260 --> 01:06:44,340 either, Ryan. And it does take a little bit 1382 01:06:44,340 --> 01:06:48,340 longer to do an attack but what he's doing here at this is a an 1383 01:06:48,340 --> 01:06:50,060 angle grinder. He's just got a little cutting 1384 01:06:50,060 --> 01:06:55,020 wheel and he's going to do a a sidewall attack on this on this 1385 01:06:55,060 --> 01:06:57,260 safe. This is a Liberty branded safe. 1386 01:06:57,260 --> 01:07:00,460 It's got the really nice looking lock again, very heavy and and 1387 01:07:00,460 --> 01:07:03,220 has a fireproof rating which is sort of useless and nonsensical. 1388 01:07:03,570 --> 01:07:06,090 You can see the brand for secure it up in the corner there but 1389 01:07:06,090 --> 01:07:07,650 he's just doing this. You can do this with a hand 1390 01:07:07,650 --> 01:07:09,050 tool. I've got DeWalt tools that will 1391 01:07:09,050 --> 01:07:11,010 do this. This one takes probably 15 to 20 1392 01:07:11,010 --> 01:07:12,970 minutes to do. So once again, you're keeping 1393 01:07:12,970 --> 01:07:17,570 honest people honest but this is this is how you get into a safe 1394 01:07:17,650 --> 01:07:21,970 if you need to and if it takes 20 minutes to cut open there's 1395 01:07:21,970 --> 01:07:25,210 no real danger of somebody accessing it without the code if 1396 01:07:25,210 --> 01:07:27,250 nobody's nearby. It's not like that guns going to 1397 01:07:27,250 --> 01:07:29,850 jump out and shoot anybody. George, you guys ever cut it 1398 01:07:29,850 --> 01:07:32,940 safe? Kyle, is it safe to do that with 1399 01:07:32,940 --> 01:07:37,060 like, ammo in there? No, not at all. 1400 01:07:33,980 --> 01:07:35,660 With that? Those sparks ever set off a 1401 01:07:35,660 --> 01:07:37,940 bullet? Because you'll see in a second 1402 01:07:37,940 --> 01:07:39,460 he's going to pull it open. And what you'll see is there's 1403 01:07:39,460 --> 01:07:42,420 an entire layer of drywall this guy's about to pull open, a 1404 01:07:42,420 --> 01:07:44,900 Liberty safe, which are thousands of dollars. 1405 01:07:45,140 --> 01:07:46,420 Boom. He just pulls it open right 1406 01:07:46,420 --> 01:07:47,580 there. And what you see is literally 1407 01:07:47,580 --> 01:07:50,950 regular commercial drywall with the, you know, with the backer 1408 01:07:50,950 --> 01:07:54,350 board there and that interior board there is all just carpet 1409 01:07:54,350 --> 01:07:55,950 and upholstery that makes it look pretty. 1410 01:07:56,550 --> 01:07:58,550 It also is a carcinogen. It's also really bad for your 1411 01:07:58,550 --> 01:07:59,830 guns. But that's neither here nor 1412 01:07:59,830 --> 01:08:02,270 there. It can, it can corrode older and 1413 01:08:02,310 --> 01:08:04,350 antique firearms, but he literally just pried it open 1414 01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:06,590 like that. And, you know, so the idea that 1415 01:08:06,590 --> 01:08:09,510 they would comply in the same way and just hand over codes, 1416 01:08:09,870 --> 01:08:11,630 it's scary to me that they actually keep a list of codes 1417 01:08:11,630 --> 01:08:14,350 more than anything else. Have you ever seen videos like 1418 01:08:14,350 --> 01:08:16,270 that, George? No, I haven't. 1419 01:08:16,270 --> 01:08:19,510 But the profit margin on those must be awesome because I don't 1420 01:08:19,510 --> 01:08:22,189 see a lot of material or engineering going into that. 1421 01:08:22,350 --> 01:08:25,310 No, it's all in the doors. So I actually moved my safe when 1422 01:08:25,310 --> 01:08:26,950 I was in Virginia down these basement stairs. 1423 01:08:27,149 --> 01:08:29,470 I'll never do it again. And I what I realized is I had a 1424 01:08:29,470 --> 01:08:31,830 big stack on. It was like a 30 gun safe or 1425 01:08:31,830 --> 01:08:34,189 something like that. The door itself probably weighed 1426 01:08:34,189 --> 01:08:36,590 200 pounds. It was a two man lift on its 1427 01:08:36,590 --> 01:08:38,069 own. The rest of the residential 1428 01:08:38,069 --> 01:08:40,910 container I could pick up with my with my two hands and it was 1429 01:08:41,029 --> 01:08:44,149 80 or 90 pounds tops. It was it was gawky and weird 1430 01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:46,630 but the almost all the weight in those safes you'll find her in 1431 01:08:46,630 --> 01:08:48,630 the doors which is why if you ever open one of those safes up 1432 01:08:48,630 --> 01:08:51,109 and they're not bolted to the ground they will fall over on 1433 01:08:51,109 --> 01:08:52,990 you. And so you'll see if you go into 1434 01:08:52,990 --> 01:08:55,750 a store and and I'm just giving this as information for folks to 1435 01:08:55,750 --> 01:08:57,229 have it. I think you guys should be 1436 01:08:57,229 --> 01:09:00,229 relevant like aware of what it is you're spending your money on 1437 01:09:00,229 --> 01:09:02,670 and this is one of those products where one law 1438 01:09:02,670 --> 01:09:04,390 enforcement apparently can get codes from Liberty. 1439 01:09:04,390 --> 01:09:06,109 So that's scary. And I think that if you're 1440 01:09:06,109 --> 01:09:08,390 you're in the market for a safe, that is not a good company to 1441 01:09:08,390 --> 01:09:10,170 deal with. But moreover, if they need to 1442 01:09:10,170 --> 01:09:11,410 get into it, they're going to get into it. 1443 01:09:11,410 --> 01:09:13,890 Like just the same way I had a search warrant that was served 1444 01:09:13,890 --> 01:09:16,450 on my Airstream when I was in the Air Force and they basically 1445 01:09:16,450 --> 01:09:18,689 gave me the same option. You can give us the keys or we 1446 01:09:18,689 --> 01:09:21,010 can cut off the door. And when you have a vintage 1447 01:09:21,010 --> 01:09:24,609 197131 foot land yacht and you don't want them cutting off the 1448 01:09:24,609 --> 01:09:26,090 door, you give them the keys because they show you the 1449 01:09:26,090 --> 01:09:28,170 warrant and they go we have access to the property. 1450 01:09:28,170 --> 01:09:30,090 We'll get in one way or another. And so you just go, yeah, please 1451 01:09:30,090 --> 01:09:32,649 don't break my my Airstream. I'd rather you just go in and 1452 01:09:32,649 --> 01:09:34,250 search for whatever you need. That's how you do it. 1453 01:09:35,170 --> 01:09:37,729 If you can afford it and you have the space, you're better 1454 01:09:37,729 --> 01:09:41,370 off with a dedicated room in the basement with concrete walls and 1455 01:09:41,370 --> 01:09:44,410 just buying a safe door for it. There is a group that's called 1456 01:09:44,529 --> 01:09:46,250 Secure It. Like I said that I have their 1457 01:09:46,250 --> 01:09:48,450 their lighter version because it's just it's keeping honest 1458 01:09:48,450 --> 01:09:49,770 people honest. Keeps my kids out of it. 1459 01:09:49,930 --> 01:09:52,830 But they offer what's called a true safe and it actually has a 1460 01:09:52,830 --> 01:09:55,710 layer, a layer of steel on the inside that is surrounded by a 1461 01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:57,830 layer of concrete which you can cut, but you need a different 1462 01:09:57,830 --> 01:09:59,190 bit. And then it has steel on the 1463 01:09:59,190 --> 01:10:01,030 outside as well. They're heavy as hell. 1464 01:10:01,070 --> 01:10:02,470 You have to have professional installation. 1465 01:10:02,470 --> 01:10:05,070 But once you put it in, it's multiple levels and multiple 1466 01:10:05,070 --> 01:10:07,070 bits and the amount of time it would take to attack is very 1467 01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:10,390 similar to what you said, a secured room that is steel and 1468 01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:12,750 and concrete reinforced and you know that's that's how you do 1469 01:10:12,750 --> 01:10:14,110 it. If you're serious or you buy a 1470 01:10:14,110 --> 01:10:16,670 liberty and let the FBI get your code, take a pick, I guess. 1471 01:10:17,590 --> 01:10:20,390 Yeah, I mean, look, either Liberty gives the FBI code the 1472 01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:24,710 code, or else they're going to show up with an 84 or an RPG or 1473 01:10:24,710 --> 01:10:28,750 or or some heavy explosives. I mean, choose your poison. 1474 01:10:28,950 --> 01:10:30,790 Choose your poison. Compliance with the government, 1475 01:10:30,790 --> 01:10:32,150 folks. The idea is that we stay away 1476 01:10:32,150 --> 01:10:33,990 from this thing. I want to do one video and then 1477 01:10:33,990 --> 01:10:35,710 we're going to talk about the Marxist lesbian and then we'll 1478 01:10:35,710 --> 01:10:37,230 shut this thing down and go a little long today. 1479 01:10:37,230 --> 01:10:39,870 But I I always like talking to George, and I can talk to George 1480 01:10:39,870 --> 01:10:43,270 for like 30 minutes upfront and it would just just go away into 1481 01:10:43,270 --> 01:10:45,250 the ether. As far as time goes, Let's watch 1482 01:10:45,250 --> 01:10:46,530 this video. It's video #8. 1483 01:10:46,970 --> 01:10:49,050 Somebody sent me this, an ATF agent who's a friend of mine, 1484 01:10:49,170 --> 01:10:50,450 retired. He's actually one of the good 1485 01:10:50,450 --> 01:10:52,770 guys sent this to me. It's one of the funniest videos 1486 01:10:52,770 --> 01:10:54,250 I've seen. We're going to talk a little bit 1487 01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:56,410 about psyops because I know you worked in the information space 1488 01:10:56,650 --> 01:10:59,410 and you've worked. This is kind of, this is a 1489 01:10:59,410 --> 01:11:01,250 lighthearted take on it folks. There's a little bit of colorful 1490 01:11:01,250 --> 01:11:02,610 language in there. So if you want to shield this 1491 01:11:02,610 --> 01:11:04,770 from work or if you need a shield from kids, be aware. 1492 01:11:04,970 --> 01:11:06,810 But video at #8, it's about two minutes. 1493 01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:09,770 And it it's some of the funniest 2 minutes of memes that Ryan and 1494 01:11:09,770 --> 01:11:11,450 I have seen in a while. So a little bit of lighthearted 1495 01:11:11,450 --> 01:11:14,930 stuff about psyops. The absolute best? 1496 01:11:14,970 --> 01:11:16,730 Get ready. Hello, I'm from the US 1497 01:11:16,730 --> 01:11:18,690 government. Does something feel wrong in the 1498 01:11:18,690 --> 01:11:20,490 world? But you can't put your finger on 1499 01:11:20,490 --> 01:11:22,010 it? Are you yearning to fight 1500 01:11:22,010 --> 01:11:24,290 injustice and be part of something bigger? 1501 01:11:24,290 --> 01:11:28,010 Do you do your own research? If so, you've been chosen to 1502 01:11:28,010 --> 01:11:30,850 participate in our new PSYOP Q Anon. 1503 01:11:31,010 --> 01:11:34,290 Psyops are usually carried out by our intelligence agencies and 1504 01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,290 countries we've invaded, or whose governments we've 1505 01:11:36,290 --> 01:11:39,410 overthrown in order to convince the local population that we're 1506 01:11:39,410 --> 01:11:42,610 there to help them. Q Anon is just like that, except 1507 01:11:42,610 --> 01:11:44,090 the target isn't a foreign population. 1508 01:11:44,810 --> 01:11:47,610 It's you and the government we're planning to overthrow is 1509 01:11:48,170 --> 01:11:50,850 follow the White Rabbit. At the heart of this psyop is 1510 01:11:50,850 --> 01:11:53,930 cute, a government insider who will give you advance warning 1511 01:11:53,930 --> 01:11:57,330 about major events like the arrest of Hillary and Deep State 1512 01:11:57,330 --> 01:12:00,290 leaders which never happened, and the end of the Democratic 1513 01:12:00,290 --> 01:12:03,730 Party in 2018, who actually went on to win the house that year. 1514 01:12:03,730 --> 01:12:07,170 And if years of fake predictions start to get you down, don't 1515 01:12:07,170 --> 01:12:10,690 worry, trust the plan. The best part of this psyop is 1516 01:12:10,690 --> 01:12:12,090 you'll believe you're in a psyop. 1517 01:12:12,090 --> 01:12:14,090 Except that's not the psyop. Your action. 1518 01:12:14,330 --> 01:12:17,290 In but the Sigh up where we let you think you're in a sigh up 1519 01:12:17,290 --> 01:12:21,170 sigh up section of Q Proof. Joining Q Anon is easy, because 1520 01:12:21,170 --> 01:12:22,970 at its core, there are some truths. 1521 01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:24,850 Like the media really does lie to you. 1522 01:12:24,850 --> 01:12:27,330 There really are powerful predators out there, and there 1523 01:12:27,330 --> 01:12:30,930 really is a global pedophile ring that richly abuses kids. 1524 01:12:31,050 --> 01:12:34,810 But as you follow Q's droppings, you'll gradually larp yourself 1525 01:12:34,850 --> 01:12:37,730 deep into the rabbit's rectum, where you'll find others who 1526 01:12:37,730 --> 01:12:39,970 yearn to fight injustice just like you. 1527 01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:42,770 The 5G crypt. The plan, Democrat, FEMA Camps 1528 01:12:42,810 --> 01:12:45,290 and Chemtrail folks, too. All larked together into a 1529 01:12:45,290 --> 01:12:48,130 single larp we can control where we lark one. 1530 01:12:48,130 --> 01:12:51,730 We lark all in exchange for all this entertainment and you found 1531 01:12:51,730 --> 01:12:54,410 sense of purpose. All we ask for in return is your 1532 01:12:54,410 --> 01:12:56,570 help. No you fucking idiots, not to 1533 01:12:56,570 --> 01:12:58,250 arrest Hillary. You is convinced. 1534 01:12:58,250 --> 01:13:00,370 Patriots. Even the guy who spent decades 1535 01:13:00,370 --> 01:13:04,860 warning you about. That martial law is now a good 1536 01:13:04,860 --> 01:13:05,980 thing. What's that? 1537 01:13:05,980 --> 01:13:08,140 When do we take down the deep state? 1538 01:13:08,260 --> 01:13:11,460 Ah, honey, the guy who exposed the real deep state is being 1539 01:13:11,460 --> 01:13:14,020 tortured by it right now. And where are you? 1540 01:13:14,020 --> 01:13:16,380 Oh, that's right. Q told you to trust the plan and 1541 01:13:16,380 --> 01:13:19,100 have a big circle jerk on Aiken the great O Anconing. 1542 01:13:19,140 --> 01:13:22,220 And that's the purpose of Q Anon to convince those who would 1543 01:13:22,220 --> 01:13:25,380 normally be on the frontline of fighting our shit fuckery to sit 1544 01:13:25,380 --> 01:13:28,340 by and watch as we prosecute your truth tellers, spurge your 1545 01:13:28,340 --> 01:13:30,940 justice system, and rat fuck this election. 1546 01:13:31,140 --> 01:13:33,580 Q Anon nothing can stop. What's coming? 1547 01:13:33,580 --> 01:13:35,500 Because you'll be sitting on your ass when it does. 1548 01:13:38,300 --> 01:13:41,260 I just there's some stuff in there that I don't agree with 1549 01:13:41,260 --> 01:13:44,660 100% obviously. But just the idea of taking 1550 01:13:45,180 --> 01:13:47,420 taking people out of the out of the game, taking them off the 1551 01:13:47,420 --> 01:13:49,900 board by getting them into these like weird rabbit holes I think. 1552 01:13:49,980 --> 01:13:51,820 Plus the way that it's. Delivered is so good. 1553 01:13:52,540 --> 01:13:56,420 That's what the CIA does, and I've been used by the CIA more 1554 01:13:56,420 --> 01:13:59,760 than once. But they will spin an op at 1555 01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:01,600 this. Think about like an old school 1556 01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,920 33RPM record. There will be an op at the 1557 01:14:04,920 --> 01:14:08,720 center, but the difference with this record is is that it spins 1558 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:11,800 in different directions and they will spin an op within an op 1559 01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:15,360 within an op and to the point where they actually will send 1560 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,880 out emails. So their entire workforce as as 1561 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,840 part of that outer ring of that first part of an operation 1562 01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:24,400 because it gives it gives your validation checks when people 1563 01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,600 like kind of cursory, you know, touch it or something. 1564 01:14:27,720 --> 01:14:32,320 Yeah, I mean it's so, you know there's there's a long history 1565 01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:37,160 of intelligence services doing this to nations. 1566 01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,400 I mean we saw the Green Revolution in the Czech Republic 1567 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,480 or without the Orange Revolution, I can't remember. 1568 01:14:43,480 --> 01:14:45,640 It was a green revolution in Iran that failed. 1569 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,440 But no, we're we're we're getting played and and some of 1570 01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:53,080 it is our of our own doing. You know, like when you hear 1571 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:56,360 people say, ooh, I could better watch what I say because the FBI 1572 01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,360 might hear me. You know, some of us are of our 1573 01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,960 own doing. We got stupid people behaving 1574 01:14:59,960 --> 01:15:02,840 stupidly. But some of it is legit. 1575 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:07,200 There is an operation, a sigh operation going on to divert 1576 01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:09,840 people's attention from other more important matters. 1577 01:15:10,670 --> 01:15:13,230 I'm going to redirect people to to watch yesterday's episode if 1578 01:15:13,230 --> 01:15:16,510 they haven't seen it yet. The the idea of idolatry goes 1579 01:15:16,510 --> 01:15:19,430 deep into this in a lot of ways. For me, it's the idea that some 1580 01:15:19,430 --> 01:15:22,710 person is coming to save you and that person is not a salvific 1581 01:15:22,710 --> 01:15:24,150 God. It's a cue. 1582 01:15:24,150 --> 01:15:26,550 It's a Donald Trump. It's a white hats. 1583 01:15:26,710 --> 01:15:29,310 It's a take your pick. Those are all kind of fantasy 1584 01:15:29,310 --> 01:15:31,710 ideas in my experience. And and if you think that you 1585 01:15:31,710 --> 01:15:34,510 found the solution, by the way, if you don't have access to 1586 01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:36,390 everything that the United States government is doing, 1587 01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:38,910 which is basically nobody, I don't think anybody has all that 1588 01:15:38,910 --> 01:15:42,120 access, you're not going to uncover the secret plan on your 1589 01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:44,680 own and then be able to brag about it on the Internet that 1590 01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:47,040 that's not a real thing. So whenever you go out there and 1591 01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,280 and and actually Bad Religion, which was a punk rock band that 1592 01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:52,480 I love, I absolutely love them. They seem like the most 1593 01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:55,440 irreverent guys and they almost always have really pointed 1594 01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:57,600 social commentary. He said there's there's a song 1595 01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:00,920 they have called the answer and they said if somebody comes to 1596 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:04,560 you and says, I have the answer, like that person is yet another 1597 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,880 fraud. And he goes through a whole list 1598 01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:07,840 of people that have, quote, UN quote, the answer, you know. 1599 01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,080 No. This is why when I teach 1600 01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:15,400 college, you know I stress critical and iterative thinking 1601 01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:19,800 that without that skill set, you're going to get played. 1602 01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:21,720 You're going to get worked real easy. 1603 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:23,240 It's so true. Will you? 1604 01:16:23,600 --> 01:16:25,080 We had kind of a thought experiment. 1605 01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:26,560 This is not saying that this is what's happening. 1606 01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:29,000 This is saying what is possible about Patriot Front. 1607 01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:31,200 You and I kind of were were riffing on this the other day 1608 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,200 and I'd love to share with people because I know people 1609 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,800 have questions about how these things could be done and what's 1610 01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:38,200 the plausibility of it. Maybe you could share that based 1611 01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:39,920 on your some of your experience on there, what this would look 1612 01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,960 like, who would be running it if if possible or how it would be 1613 01:16:42,960 --> 01:16:44,760 run, because I really found that fascinating. 1614 01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,640 So having come from from the intelligence community before 1615 01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,620 the FBI, which? Is a larper. 1616 01:16:52,620 --> 01:16:54,660 They consider themselves part of the intelligence community. 1617 01:16:55,180 --> 01:16:56,740 But this is the Patriot fun thing. 1618 01:16:56,780 --> 01:17:00,540 If I were going to do it, this is how I would do it, which is I 1619 01:17:00,540 --> 01:17:08,300 would bring a former, ideally SF in a Ranger seal, somebody who 1620 01:17:08,300 --> 01:17:13,700 thinks very highly of themselves into HSI headquarters and up to 1621 01:17:13,700 --> 01:17:17,500 the nicest conference room we had outside the executive suite. 1622 01:17:17,900 --> 01:17:19,980 And I tell them they're being considered for a senior 1623 01:17:19,980 --> 01:17:24,340 executive position. And their response, Their job 1624 01:17:24,340 --> 01:17:27,620 is, is to recruit people, to have them dress up. 1625 01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:32,220 You know, I'd lay out some some basic op plan, have them dress 1626 01:17:32,220 --> 01:17:35,060 up, have them, you know, coordinate for them to show up 1627 01:17:35,060 --> 01:17:38,740 at a certain area in time, March around, and then disappear. 1628 01:17:39,580 --> 01:17:42,540 But that person then would in turn tell each one of those 1629 01:17:42,540 --> 01:17:47,180 people he would recruit from a pool of people who have already 1630 01:17:47,180 --> 01:17:49,780 applied for various positions within. 1631 01:17:50,090 --> 01:17:52,930 Either federal law enforcement or the intelligence community 1632 01:17:53,130 --> 01:17:55,770 and say, hey, you're being considered for a position, We're 1633 01:17:55,770 --> 01:17:57,730 running an operation here in the United States. 1634 01:17:57,730 --> 01:18:00,650 I can't tell you anything about it, but we're going to create 1635 01:18:00,650 --> 01:18:03,290 what's called a bigot list. And and and if you're not on 1636 01:18:03,290 --> 01:18:07,850 that list, you know, it makes them feel very exclusive and 1637 01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:10,930 very important, you know. And at the end of the day, you 1638 01:18:10,930 --> 01:18:13,890 can either terminate the operation by telling all these 1639 01:18:13,890 --> 01:18:16,290 people that they didn't make the cut. 1640 01:18:16,830 --> 01:18:20,910 Or you can hire some of them into the organization to include 1641 01:18:20,910 --> 01:18:24,870 the person you bring in to run it and, you know, tell them, you 1642 01:18:24,870 --> 01:18:27,830 know, this was a compartmentalized program. 1643 01:18:28,550 --> 01:18:30,630 Anyone on that's not on this bigot list, you're not 1644 01:18:30,630 --> 01:18:32,110 authorized to discuss it with them. 1645 01:18:32,270 --> 01:18:36,030 And oh, by the way, 90% of the people that were involved have 1646 01:18:36,190 --> 01:18:41,230 have been declined employment. It's a real easy thing to run. 1647 01:18:41,230 --> 01:18:44,390 I know because we've ran them, but. 1648 01:18:44,780 --> 01:18:46,700 Not else. Not inside the United States, 1649 01:18:47,300 --> 01:18:49,500 but the capability to do that sort of operation. 1650 01:18:49,660 --> 01:18:51,820 It you're you're playing on a couple of basic human emotions. 1651 01:18:51,820 --> 01:18:54,780 The exclusivity of it, people's want or need to be something, 1652 01:18:54,780 --> 01:18:57,500 you know kind of elite people who don't have the capability of 1653 01:18:57,500 --> 01:18:59,900 being within the structure, but they they would love to. 1654 01:18:59,900 --> 01:19:02,380 And so you exploit that. There's a lot of just basic 1655 01:19:02,380 --> 01:19:06,100 human exploitation that goes on and and then you run it and you 1656 01:19:06,100 --> 01:19:07,860 tell them how exclusive and elite it is and you know you can 1657 01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:10,220 never talk to anybody about it. These are they become 1658 01:19:10,220 --> 01:19:12,900 unfalsifiable too, for the people that believe in it too, 1659 01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:15,690 because it's like they believe that it's legit and you could 1660 01:19:15,690 --> 01:19:17,410 never tell him otherwise because they heard it from a source that 1661 01:19:17,410 --> 01:19:19,410 they trust and they were, they were quote UN quote recruited. 1662 01:19:19,410 --> 01:19:22,050 These things have been going on for a very long time, obviously 1663 01:19:22,050 --> 01:19:23,370 in other places. Yeah. 1664 01:19:23,370 --> 01:19:25,330 No. And I used HSI in my example 1665 01:19:25,330 --> 01:19:28,610 because they're unconstrained. They don't report to the DOJ and 1666 01:19:28,610 --> 01:19:33,770 they don't have a diogue, which is we just lose George. 1667 01:19:34,770 --> 01:19:36,810 There you go, folks. This is how it happens. 1668 01:19:36,970 --> 01:19:38,730 George has got a bad connection there, I think. 1669 01:19:39,180 --> 01:19:40,100 I think that's the case. It's. 1670 01:19:40,460 --> 01:19:42,820 The deep state, that's the other possibility, right. 1671 01:19:42,820 --> 01:19:44,740 We always like to go in there. I want to cut that piece out, 1672 01:19:44,740 --> 01:19:46,900 Ryan and I want to share it with people is just a standalone 1673 01:19:46,900 --> 01:19:49,500 video too and George may join us in Hindi at the end. 1674 01:19:49,500 --> 01:19:51,860 But the last thing I did want to pivot towards and talk about if 1675 01:19:51,860 --> 01:19:54,500 we can is topic #8 and we'll get George in the way on that. 1676 01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:56,020 George, I do appreciate that analysis. 1677 01:19:56,060 --> 01:19:59,140 I think it's I think it's really, really relevant and this 1678 01:19:59,140 --> 01:20:00,460 could be a sign up. We're going to talk about the 1679 01:20:00,460 --> 01:20:02,460 last little piece here, kind of wrap the sucker up, but this is. 1680 01:20:03,030 --> 01:20:05,870 Probably just the way that the the state of affairs in America 1681 01:20:05,870 --> 01:20:08,070 right now. Our our topic #8 was coming from 1682 01:20:08,070 --> 01:20:09,550 Catholic Vote. It's coming from the Loop this 1683 01:20:09,550 --> 01:20:12,470 morning and it's a discussion about how the American Library 1684 01:20:12,470 --> 01:20:15,950 Association president is a selfproclaimed Marxist lesbian. 1685 01:20:15,950 --> 01:20:17,270 Do you want to pop that sucker up there, Ryan? 1686 01:20:17,270 --> 01:20:19,590 We can just look at the look at the main piece. 1687 01:20:20,710 --> 01:20:23,590 So there you go folks. You can go and see it in 1688 01:20:23,590 --> 01:20:25,510 Catholic Votes news feed today. If you're not getting the loop, 1689 01:20:25,510 --> 01:20:26,830 this is what you're missing out on. 1690 01:20:27,150 --> 01:20:30,870 And there she was out there basically saying in no uncertain 1691 01:20:30,870 --> 01:20:34,800 terms by the way, that she thought that they should be 1692 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,200 using these as recruiting grounds for socialists, that she 1693 01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:42,080 has a sub stack that she runs which is called actively unwoke, 1694 01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:44,920 and that she's trying to create the largest socialist confidence 1695 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:47,080 in the country. She wanted to be in a speaker 1696 01:20:47,080 --> 01:20:48,680 initially, but then they just went out there and she's been 1697 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,000 kind of quietly canceling these things off so that she can kind 1698 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,000 of get away with it. But they're out there pushing an 1699 01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,590 agenda in the libraries of all places. 1700 01:20:55,590 --> 01:20:57,230 Which used to be a place where you would go and get things 1701 01:20:57,230 --> 01:20:59,390 like, I don't know, literature and understand about America. 1702 01:20:59,550 --> 01:21:01,270 Where you could go learn about that myth of edetic 1703 01:21:01,270 --> 01:21:03,870 possibilities and the romantic writers of the early American, 1704 01:21:04,630 --> 01:21:08,510 the early American country and and figure out what this, you 1705 01:21:08,510 --> 01:21:10,910 know, what the century was all about, what it meant to them in. 1706 01:21:11,190 --> 01:21:13,230 In the meantime now they're taking this in their weaponizing 1707 01:21:13,230 --> 01:21:14,910 it because it's a place that was available. 1708 01:21:14,910 --> 01:21:18,340 And you know it used to be the old ladies who probably were 1709 01:21:18,460 --> 01:21:21,580 probably had a Betsy Ross flag that they'd so themselves used 1710 01:21:21,580 --> 01:21:23,580 to be the librarians. And now we have these like young 1711 01:21:23,780 --> 01:21:27,220 culturally Marxist lesbians that are out there trying to convert 1712 01:21:27,220 --> 01:21:30,180 your kids into to to hate this country, which is shocking. 1713 01:21:30,180 --> 01:21:32,220 And like I said, psyop or otherwise, it's still scary 1714 01:21:32,220 --> 01:21:35,980 stuff. So we've seen the video of 1715 01:21:35,980 --> 01:21:38,540 people being videos, plural, of people being. 1716 01:21:40,580 --> 01:21:43,860 Escorted by armed, uniformed police officers out of school 1717 01:21:43,860 --> 01:21:47,540 board meetings for reading excerpts from books and that 1718 01:21:47,540 --> 01:21:50,700 were outright pornographic that are being used in schools. 1719 01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:52,140 And that's the only way to fight. 1720 01:21:52,140 --> 01:21:55,780 This is for parents to, you know, go to the children's 1721 01:21:55,780 --> 01:21:59,340 section of the library to to be aware of changes that are being 1722 01:21:59,340 --> 01:22:02,660 made. The the problem would be with 1723 01:22:03,060 --> 01:22:07,660 being conservative and wanting to conserve American values is 1724 01:22:07,660 --> 01:22:13,090 that we have jobs. And and responsibilities. 1725 01:22:13,090 --> 01:22:17,930 And unfortunately the left, all they want to do is, is is tear 1726 01:22:17,930 --> 01:22:20,730 everything down. So without eternal vigilance 1727 01:22:21,090 --> 01:22:24,890 from people with some sort of religious background that 1728 01:22:24,890 --> 01:22:29,170 believe in a higher power, that believe in the Constitution and 1729 01:22:29,170 --> 01:22:35,250 the Bill of Rights, without us actively looking at what these 1730 01:22:35,250 --> 01:22:38,930 people are doing to include this head of the library association. 1731 01:22:39,320 --> 01:22:42,520 And school boards, they're going to keep on getting away with it 1732 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,920 and it just takes eternal vigilance. 1733 01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:48,960 And they're not going to stop. Therefore, neither can we. 1734 01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,680 No. And the sad thing is, and I had 1735 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:54,640 a discussion with people about this the other day, it's part of 1736 01:22:54,640 --> 01:22:56,520 it is the fact that we have jobs and we have things that we got 1737 01:22:56,520 --> 01:22:59,360 to do with our day and we have children and we are actually in, 1738 01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,360 you know, being productive members of society. 1739 01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:04,600 And the other half is that by being a conservative, your goal 1740 01:23:04,600 --> 01:23:08,040 is always defensive. It is conserving the things that 1741 01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:10,480 exist that are good. And so that is a defensive 1742 01:23:10,480 --> 01:23:12,880 posture as opposed to the aggressive posture that the 1743 01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:15,360 political left has had, that we call them progressive for a 1744 01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,200 reason. Their movement is always 1745 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:18,600 forward. It doesn't even have to agree 1746 01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,560 with itself. They have these irrational 1747 01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,760 positions on on many different bases, right? 1748 01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:24,720 We can think about it. They think the government is 1749 01:23:24,720 --> 01:23:26,880 bad, infringing on black people, but they also think that nobody 1750 01:23:26,880 --> 01:23:29,280 should own a gun, which would be your primary method of resisting 1751 01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:30,960 a government. And they also think that the you 1752 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,200 know that the climate should be respected and the government 1753 01:23:33,200 --> 01:23:34,480 needs to be the one that does that. 1754 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,840 So they have all these illogical beliefs that sort of batter 1755 01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,120 against each other, but they fight on all fronts in an always 1756 01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:43,280 aggressive, forward moving, progressive attempting to gain 1757 01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:44,920 ground. And conservatives are just 1758 01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:47,120 fighting on all sides, trying to maintain the thing that's in the 1759 01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:48,710 middle. When you're when you're 1760 01:23:48,710 --> 01:23:50,550 defensive, you're always going to be on the back foot. 1761 01:23:50,590 --> 01:23:53,110 You have to be. Yeah. 1762 01:23:53,270 --> 01:23:57,510 And it's and we can never let up because they're not going to let 1763 01:23:57,510 --> 01:23:58,390 up. And when you ask these 1764 01:23:58,390 --> 01:24:01,670 progressive what are they progressing forward to, they 1765 01:24:01,670 --> 01:24:03,150 can't answer that question, of course not. 1766 01:24:03,470 --> 01:24:07,110 It's just we're progressing. So the process with a 1767 01:24:07,110 --> 01:24:12,750 progressive is the goal, kind of like how they use the legal 1768 01:24:12,750 --> 01:24:15,310 system. The process is the punishment. 1769 01:24:15,810 --> 01:24:20,210 You know, we actually have a goal, which is to preserve the 1770 01:24:20,210 --> 01:24:23,650 the founding principles of the country, the Constitution and 1771 01:24:23,650 --> 01:24:26,490 the Bill of Rights, and to preserve American sovereignty. 1772 01:24:26,770 --> 01:24:30,330 We actually have a goal. Their goal is just chaos. 1773 01:24:30,330 --> 01:24:33,170 They're they're, they really should call themselves what they 1774 01:24:33,170 --> 01:24:34,490 are. They're anarchist. 1775 01:24:34,690 --> 01:24:38,000 All they want to do is tear down, and once they've torn it 1776 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,720 down, then they can progress towards a little bit of order 1777 01:24:39,720 --> 01:24:41,960 that they can tear down again. It's just, you know, cycle of 1778 01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:43,920 insanity. Unfortunately, and like I said, 1779 01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,360 the ideas don't have to agree with each other. 1780 01:24:45,520 --> 01:24:48,000 I think that neatly shows it up with our original basis on the 1781 01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:51,400 on the unkempt and overgrown garden, which is to say that 1782 01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,920 conservatives are attempting to maintain those boundaries. 1783 01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:56,400 Be a person on the wall. You have to be a person on the 1784 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,480 wall. That means you're speaking 1785 01:24:57,480 --> 01:24:59,640 freely, you're speaking your mind, you're defending your 1786 01:24:59,640 --> 01:25:02,560 positions intelligently and you're doing so without violence 1787 01:25:02,930 --> 01:25:05,530 and you're not buying a liberty safe so that the FBI can easily 1788 01:25:05,530 --> 01:25:07,610 get into your gun safe. That's one of the pieces. 1789 01:25:07,850 --> 01:25:09,890 But we just, we all have to maintain those boundaries. 1790 01:25:09,890 --> 01:25:11,570 Otherwise we do get a garden that's overgrown. 1791 01:25:11,890 --> 01:25:13,850 And if you've ever seen the difference between a well kept 1792 01:25:13,850 --> 01:25:17,090 garden and a garden that has gone to to pot and and to to 1793 01:25:17,090 --> 01:25:19,730 seed, it's not very cool to walk through when they're stickers 1794 01:25:19,730 --> 01:25:21,930 and brambles and weeds, it's a lot nicer to go through the 1795 01:25:21,930 --> 01:25:24,730 manicured garden. Even leftist love a manicured 1796 01:25:24,730 --> 01:25:26,050 garden. They just don't know what 1797 01:25:26,050 --> 01:25:27,490 they're fighting against when they're out there trying to 1798 01:25:27,490 --> 01:25:29,170 fight these these barriers and boundaries. 1799 01:25:29,170 --> 01:25:32,420 So we can, we can only advocate that position and everybody's 1800 01:25:32,420 --> 01:25:33,420 got to take the spot on the wall. 1801 01:25:35,740 --> 01:25:39,740 Yeah, I mean and when you weed that garden, there are lawn and 1802 01:25:39,740 --> 01:25:42,900 leaf bags that have to get taken to the curb and thrown into the 1803 01:25:42,900 --> 01:25:46,750 landfill. That is a dark way to to add to 1804 01:25:46,750 --> 01:25:48,070 my metaphor. But you're, I think you're 1805 01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:50,430 exactly correct. George, thank you for for 1806 01:25:50,430 --> 01:25:52,070 joining me this morning. Thanks for stepping on there. 1807 01:25:52,150 --> 01:25:54,190 Sorry about our Internet connection issues, whether it's 1808 01:25:54,190 --> 01:25:57,910 deep state or just a failure to have solid infrastructure, maybe 1809 01:25:57,910 --> 01:25:59,830 some of that build back better money is going to get your 1810 01:25:59,830 --> 01:26:00,790 Internet faster. What do you? 1811 01:26:00,790 --> 01:26:02,590 Think it wasn't a Coast Guard helicopter? 1812 01:26:02,830 --> 01:26:05,670 So this is really pretty low. On that front, it's pretty low 1813 01:26:05,670 --> 01:26:07,590 on the the interruption scale for us. 1814 01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:10,190 Thanks for for jumping in last minute with me to talk about 1815 01:26:10,190 --> 01:26:11,350 this. I think that that that piece 1816 01:26:11,350 --> 01:26:15,350 about Patriot front door or a seated operation like that will 1817 01:26:15,350 --> 01:26:17,870 be very interesting to folks and that's a value to be out there 1818 01:26:17,870 --> 01:26:20,790 and have your experience, people can follow you at Senior Chief 1819 01:26:20,790 --> 01:26:23,830 EXW and your truth handle. What's your truth handle? 1820 01:26:24,990 --> 01:26:27,390 I think it's jarhead, George. I think it is too, because I 1821 01:26:27,390 --> 01:26:30,870 think I tagged you this morning. Yeah, I tried to, you know, mix 1822 01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:32,790 it up. I mean, having lived, you know, 1823 01:26:33,150 --> 01:26:36,310 two lives, just real briefly, I had to get out of the Marine 1824 01:26:36,310 --> 01:26:39,550 Corps because of a personal situation and try to go back in 1825 01:26:39,550 --> 01:26:41,670 after the world was at peace. And the only people that would 1826 01:26:41,670 --> 01:26:47,240 give me a chance was the Navy. And so I took it and I had great 1827 01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,560 times at both organizations, although the darkness primarily 1828 01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,080 comes from my Marine Corps service. 1829 01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:55,360 That's why we get along too, though, folks. 1830 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:56,960 Just a little bit of inside ball. 1831 01:26:56,960 --> 01:26:58,920 When George and I were talking the other day, I said something 1832 01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:01,200 like, my mother thinks I'm the angriest person she's ever met. 1833 01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:03,920 And George said, give it 15 years and get back to me. 1834 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:05,640 He's like, you got a long ways to go. 1835 01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:08,640 So I very much appreciate someone that thinks that they're 1836 01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:10,360 angrier than I am. At least it puts me in 1837 01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:12,760 perspective for the world. It also gives me a goal. 1838 01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:13,960 Everybody should. You'd have a goal in life, 1839 01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,320 right? Amen. 1840 01:27:16,440 --> 01:27:17,840 All right, buddy. Thanks so much for joining me. 1841 01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:20,000 Ladies and gentlemen, you have been living listening to the 1842 01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,200 Kyle Sarafin Show. We just stream live from Liberty 1843 01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:26,760 Hill, TX every weekday at 0930, and that is 8:30 here in Texas, 1844 01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:28,680 America. You can always find our lively 1845 01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,720 discussion in the online chat, which was insane. 1846 01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:33,240 I had it on slow chat mode for a while and every time I looked 1847 01:27:33,240 --> 01:27:36,160 over, there were 100 messages that I hadn't seen, 99 that I 1848 01:27:36,160 --> 01:27:38,040 had to scroll through. So I missed everything that was 1849 01:27:38,040 --> 01:27:39,720 going on in the live chat, All you wild animals. 1850 01:27:39,880 --> 01:27:41,080 But thank you so much for being there. 1851 01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:45,230 You can find the live chat at rumble.com/kyle Serafin. 1852 01:27:45,230 --> 01:27:47,750 You'll find our latest video. The live links are always up 1853 01:27:48,470 --> 01:27:51,550 before the show and like I said 08/30 here in Texas America to 1854 01:27:51,550 --> 01:27:53,230 do that. Thanks for all you who are live 1855 01:27:53,230 --> 01:27:55,110 chatters. 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I'm amazed that every time I 1865 01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:23,560 listen I learn information not available elsewhere. 1866 01:28:23,720 --> 01:28:25,720 Also enjoyed your excellent interview with Jason. 1867 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:28,280 I think this was actually Jacob Chansley, and I had no idea 1868 01:28:28,280 --> 01:28:30,040 about the details other than what Tucker revealed in the 1869 01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:31,960 videos he released. So I'm pretty confident that was 1870 01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,040 the Chansley interview, which I thought was also pretty 1871 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,480 interesting. I found out some new things 1872 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,600 folks. This show will continue to grow 1873 01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,040 because of you and your support on places like Apple and 1874 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,960 Spotify, iHeartRadio and we even stream live to Facebook. 1875 01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:45,400 A couple of others were actually on Twitter as well doing it live 1876 01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:48,520 so you can catch us anywhere. Again, that live chat is at home 1877 01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:52,040 on Rumble and please share it if you do like the videos, if you 1878 01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:54,760 like the content, we appreciate that and it does help grow our 1879 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:56,880 our subscriber base, which is always great for us. 1880 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,520 It gives us a bigger platform and a bigger microphone to share 1881 01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,360 voices like George. You can follow Ryan Maddow who 1882 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:05,040 is the hardworking producer of The Kyle Seraphin Show. 1883 01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,560 A great position and has definitely made a big step up in 1884 01:29:08,560 --> 01:29:11,120 capabilities. You can follow him at Ryan Mata 1885 01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,400 Media. There he is with a salute, just 1886 01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,400 getting hit in the head over and over again by the spinning 1887 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,840 suspendables logo. You can find him at Ryan Mata 1888 01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,280 Media on Twitter or at Ryan Mata MATTA on true social. 1889 01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,680 Folks, before you leave, make sure you like this video and we 1890 01:29:25,680 --> 01:29:27,240 do really appreciate it. One last little thing here, let 1891 01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:29,280 me plug my friends. Where is he at? 1892 01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,880 I think I've got a a little piece of the suspendables merch 1893 01:29:31,880 --> 01:29:33,840 if you wanted to see this. This comes through our buddy 1894 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,360 Garrett Boyle. So this is just a free promo 1895 01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,280 that we do for him because he's a a great guy. 1896 01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:40,720 And there it is, the suspendables merch. 1897 01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:44,720 You can find it at the Dash suspendables.com. 1898 01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:48,280 The dash suspendables.com. And he's getting ready to start 1899 01:29:48,280 --> 01:29:50,360 shipping out some of that merch. You guys can order that stuff up 1900 01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:54,480 and you'll be supporting Garrett O'boyle, a man who is put it on 1901 01:29:54,480 --> 01:29:57,310 the line and is actually hanging out of his house right now to 1902 01:29:57,310 --> 01:30:00,790 see if the FBI decided to continue to suspend him forever, 1903 01:30:00,870 --> 01:30:03,470 which is what we expect. We'll see you guys again 1904 01:30:03,470 --> 01:30:05,750 tomorrow, and we might have a very interesting interview. 1905 01:30:05,750 --> 01:30:08,350 I'm supposed to be talking to all five of the gentlemen who 1906 01:30:08,350 --> 01:30:10,990 were just sentenced in this weaponized DOJ. 1907 01:30:10,990 --> 01:30:13,830 We're talking to them from prison on the phone tonight, so 1908 01:30:13,830 --> 01:30:15,910 we'll hopefully get that together and we'll probably be 1909 01:30:15,910 --> 01:30:17,570 sharing that with you guys tomorrow. 1910 01:30:17,570 --> 01:30:19,450 Until then, God bless. Have a safe day and we'll talk 1911 01:30:19,450 --> 01:30:21,050 to you soon. Thanks for listening to The Kyle 1912 01:30:21,050 --> 01:30:24,490 Seraphin Show streamed live Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays 1913 01:30:24,490 --> 01:30:28,850 on rumble.com/kyle Seraphin. Follow Kyle on Twitter and True 1914 01:30:28,850 --> 01:30:31,250 Social at Kyle Seraphin.