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Take a look behind the curtain 
with a real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth, because 
this program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Seraf. 
Hello my friends. 

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Welcome to the Kyle Serravitz 
show. 

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We are fighting with Rumble 
right now who has changed our 

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stream key a few times. 
I'm sure it has nothing to do 

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with the fact that I'm bringing 
on one of the epic tellers of 

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truth, my friend Mike Benz, also
known as at Mike Benz Cyber. 

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So by all means, if you're not 
following Mike on. 

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On Twitter or any of the other 
local platforms, we'll get all 

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of his handles on here. 
Make sure you do, Folks, this is

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Thursday, September the 14th. 
We're going to run right into 

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this live. 
I'll read some ads in just a 

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second here, Mike, but let's 
just say, hey to you, where are 

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you right now? 
Where are you in the world? 

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Can you hear me? 
Sorry, just say I just. 

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Had a call come through. 
Sorry, say say that again. 

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I said, where in the world? 
Where in the world are you right

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now? 
I'm currently in Miami. 

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I just finished this cross 
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this is probably going to be for
Florida through 2024. 

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It is. 
It's pretty wild year ahead. 

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And you know, seeing how they're
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prominent figures who are 
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New York and California and 
Delaware and Michigan, I kind of

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wanted to be somewhere where I 
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Halfway Decent shot, if they. 
If they come for me. 

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And you know, Miami-Dade 
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Rats, for what it's worth. 
That is true, yeah. 

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Historically very blue though, I
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Yes. 
So you had a pretty, pretty 

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awesome road trip. 
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posting videos from the road. 
I really, I actually like your 

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Twitter feed more than almost 
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It's got a mixture of of some 
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hiking, walking, and then like 
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ranting about how we're all 
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kind of fun. 
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I'd I never, I didn't know you 
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do, but it's pretty fantastic. 
I'm glad you. 

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Appreciate the Eclectica, You 
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I come across Mode Harmless to 
the people who would have it out

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for me because, you know, it's a
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Well, I'm going to play a quick 
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through and scoured your feed 
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I'm going to show it to my 
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get a sense of who you are. 
We'll do a like a bullet point 

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bio because you came on my show 
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and gave people a really good 
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being and drink some of my 
coffee, which was great. 

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Let's do video #2 real quick, 
Ryan, and then I'll let Mike say

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what this is. 
California, California on the 

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stereo. 
Listen as we go. 

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That's going to stop me now. 
There he goes, upside down Lexi.

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Kyle, I was not ready for this 
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OK. 
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Were you ready for that? 
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Barbarian quote, right? 
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discipline, the steel or 
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No. 
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cut there, Kyle. 
That's. 

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How far back does that go? 
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ago, but yeah. 
Cornia is a is a wonderful 

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We will reconquer it one day. 

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It's so beautiful and corrupt. 
You know, I sort of liken it to,

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you know, an ex, an exgirlfriend
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you had a full time together and
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but it was a time in life and 
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other. 
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and then she became fully crazy 
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in the front yard and she said 
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give them to another child or 
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If you guys are watching on the 
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doing a bunch of pull ups in 
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of outdoor fitness equipment. 
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missed was Mike Benz doing a two
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parallel to each other and then 
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probably, I don't know, 20 feet,
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knocking. 
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pull ups throughout that that 
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It was mostly Mike doing pull 
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thick that is holding up those 
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flex and he's basically showing 
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there's no chicks watching. 
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guys on the beach, which you 
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very California about that too. 
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I did it for you, Kyle. 
I knew this moment would happen.

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It actually tickled me in a big 
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Amazing podcast. 
I I want to know who was filming

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it too. 
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I'd like to. 
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Actually, I bet. 
I bet there's a there's some 

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special special set of skills 
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At some point we'll we'll we'll 
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some of the there's a little 
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doc and. 
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getting drowned and stuff like 
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So maybe we'll play that on the 
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It's out there. 
It goes back to to 2011. 

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I want to say I went through PJ 
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end doc there. 
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kind of talk about it. 
I want to play another clip. 

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This is what we really came in 
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And this is a little chunk of 
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But I wanted you. 
You had the best way of 

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describing the CIA's video #6 
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This is what you teased out on 
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This is the animal that. 
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people have an understanding and
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moment and you're riffing, you 
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And this is one of those moments
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So we're going to play Mike 
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talk CIA. 
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there's a place for that because
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And we need to, you know, the 
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defense. 
Sure, but that's like having, 

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you know, a rabid Pitbull, 
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You know, to defend your house 
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dog, it's got to stay outside, 
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That thing. 
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Right, but it. 
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But now you've got CIA officers 
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and safety teams, both Google 
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Mike, do you know I know that 
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Yeah, that. 
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and it didn't even rattle me. 
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you 100% right. 
That's how I would talk about 

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I mean that is that is like the 

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shape. 
I don't know what inspired that 

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particular constellation of of 
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that afterwards when I listened 
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that that actually. 
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like Argoyle animals who will 
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air. 
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When we're. 
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Talk about it, but you know the 
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foreign facing department of 
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supposed to protect us from the 
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particular set of skills which 
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your dinner table. 
That they lie and sabotage at 

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your dinner. 
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dinner table, at least not 
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If we're overseas, that might be
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your back, it turns out. 
Right now it's like the movie 

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Mcgruber where he's got this one
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everyone. 
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that's all he knows how to do, 
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guys and that's basically what 
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I mean if I I understand the 
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scat CIA into 1000 pieces to the
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is. 
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there's schools of thought even 
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accountability for the CIA that 
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thing. 
Not that that's even politically

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possible but that you reform 
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I can, I can sort of compromise 
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But they you got to have the FCA
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able to rotate, you know, from 
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You can't have people whose 
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psychological operations and 
government overthrow involved in

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the election, like domestic 
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going to use that to overthrow 
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As you can make the. 
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happened quite recently. 
I think you could make that 

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argument Okay. 
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there, cuz we do get new 
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And then I'll refer them to go 
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so they can hear about you being
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pianist and pull up artist. 
Sure. 

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So I'm Mike Benz. 
I'm the executive Director of 

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Foundation for Freedom Online. 
Our goal is to restore the 

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golden, the inner and take on 
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Before that, I was the deputy 
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Economic Bureau at the 
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We just get a freeze up. 
Yes, Sir. 

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Should be back in a second here.
All right, folks, bear with us 

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our connections on there. 
Mike's on the road and I'll take

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him wherever we can find him. 
So he's going to have to 

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probably reboot through there. 
As he's saying he was a 

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political appointee in the Trump
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Department. 
That is a not a lowlevel 

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position. 
This is not somebody who was on 

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the GS pay scale. 
This is a guy who was tapped on 

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the shoulder and asked to come 
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I don't think we think that 
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But Mike is on the road and as 
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seeing things in Florida and he 
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a little while. 
So I'm going to ask him to exit 

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our our stream and come back in.
He worked right directly under 

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Mike Pompeo at the State 
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Yeah, that's correct. 
Well, he was at Mike Pompeo, 

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State Department, directly under
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said deputy assistant secretary,
that's a little, it's a couple 

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steps below, but he's going to 
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So and MM is more conspiratorial
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He just said he suddenly dropped
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which is a little bit strange. 
In any case, we've seen the live

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chat saying we vote for 
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That is correct. 
I'm going to, I'm going to play 

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a quick little clip if we can 
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take on it in a second here. 
But let's do let's do video #1. 

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And and this is essentially 
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This is the kind of operations 
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This wouldn't. 
What happens when you put people

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people that are working in the 
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are doing? 
They're trying to police your 

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thoughts, folks. 
This is, this is the thing we 

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keep talking about. 
There's an organization known as

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SISA, which is the IT is the 
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Infrastructure Security Agency. 
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security and IT twice, which is 
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like, you know, the electrical 
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systems and things like that, 
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government connectivity or 
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this, at least to my knowledge. 
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what's called cognitive 
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Now the word cognitive, of 
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thoughts and your your mind and 
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when they say we want to police 
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loop your brain into our 
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through mandate, you know, sort 
of handling the things that come

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in through your ears. 
If they're trying to police what

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is in your Gray matter and 
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actually worrying about whether 
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They can get in and decide how 
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things. 
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this connection. 
I'm going to play video #1, if 

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you would. 
This just came off your 

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timeline. 
You're going to have a great way

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to talk about this as well. 
So let's do video #1. 

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Ryan. 
So our current measures often 

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revolve around debunking and 
fact checking. 

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We're trying to undo the damage 
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that it's very difficult to 
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misinformation. 
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falsehood, it settles in your 
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other things that you know to be
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acknowledge their correction. 
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preemptively protect people 
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much more effective than 
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fake news is really based on the
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inoculation. 
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with a weakened dose of a virus 
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antibodies to help protect you 
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do the same with information by 
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with a severely weakened dose of
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manipulate people. 
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antibodies or intellectual 
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misinformation. 
So that came out of your line. 

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about with this idea of 
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call themselves researchers, set
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to how that is. 
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Sander van der Linden who is one
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and. 
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game. 
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know, it's it's well 
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to the 1970s until the Church 
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it, there was a project in this 
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was a program that was fit and 
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security state by the CIA. 
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CIA, but also with a leg up. 
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the State Department. 
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figure out the psychology of the
mind in order to be able to 

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manipulate people into behaviors
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that was in US. 
In US nationalist creating 

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Manchurian candidates. 
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populations. 
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national security state, the 
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Department turned inward and 
they started doing trauma 

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testing and LSD testing on US 
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became a sort of crooked cabal 
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agencies and university centers,
Extend University, Harvard 

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University, Oklahoma University,
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Who all got money to do the 
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modification experiments for 
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The exact same thing is 
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after the 2016 election in the 
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call it Digital MK Ultra, 
because they're what they're You

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have the the CA, DARPA, Defense 
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Spook World sponsors. 
Who are all providing 10s of 

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millions of dollars funding to 
approximately 60 universities. 

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The same universities involved 
in MK Ultra for the purpose of 

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redesigning social media to stop
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politicians like Donald Trump in
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brags of people in the UK like 
Bolsonara in Brazil, like the 

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Salvini crew in Italy like 
Marine Lepen in France in like 

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Orban and Hungary. 
They're rolling this out in 85 

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countries. 
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you know has desks that an 
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manage the the sort of political
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that region. 
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tilting every election on the 
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populist candidates and super 
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methods and friction methods. 
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They have a whole toolkit, this 
mad scientist toolkit for 

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rigging the Internet to 
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Department regime establishment 
candidate. 

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And Santander like the perfect 
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He. 
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out of a British intelligence 
novel, if you will. 

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First of just like Russia Gate 
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intelligence. 
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Orbis, Business Intelligence and
the whole MI6, Richard Dearlove 

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cabal there. 
That's what the CIA picked to 

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launder that intelligence. 
It was British intelligence. 

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That's that special relationship
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The State Department does the 
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They run this through British 
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through British labs, University
of Cambridge, University of 

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Oxford, The Oxford Internet 
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There's a dozen of these now. 
Sandra van der Linden is is like

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one of these highly acclaimed, 
extremely prolific. 

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And he wakes up in the morning. 
It just thinks about what's an 

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interesting novel technique I 
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Today he is his lab is 
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It's called the Social Decision 
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the US State Department, with 
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agency within DHS, with the 
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CIA brand Google called Google 
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Google Jigsaw was created by 
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the youngest kids. 
For on Office of Policy 

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Coordination, which is how the 
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covert action and government 
overthrow the Central 

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Intelligence Agency, he 
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counterinsurgency and youth 
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That is rallying youths in the 
Arab Spring to topple the 

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government. 
He was actually credited with 

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the doctrine that resulted in 
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This is Jared Cohen, the creator
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So he goes from this CIA covert 
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Jigsaw. 
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forefront of what you just saw 
there with Sandra van der 

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Linden's research into cognitive
vaccination, which is also being

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rolled out in US schools through
what's known as a digital mercy 

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or media literacy program. 
By that you think they mean oh, 

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they're like teaching inner 
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School kids had to read. 
What they actually mean is if 

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you read Breitbart or Gateway 
Pundit, your media illiterate 

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and need to be reprogrammed and 
redirected on the Internet to 

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read mainstream slop like the 
New York Times and the. 

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Yeah, terrible stuff. 
And also, you know, people were 

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mentioning in the chat, MK Ultra
has a pretty dark history going 

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back. 
People like Ted Tedkins and C 

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were involved in it. 
So you like there's casualties 

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that were along the line. 
There were plenty of people that

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were involved in it that were 
overdosed on LSD. 

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And you know, there were a 
couple of them that committed 

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suicide, some of them on very, 
very nefarious circumstances, 

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like the history of people going
down the rabbit hole. 

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Yeah, the minute you. 
Start. 

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Killed an elephant with LSD 
doing that. 

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Right. 
Literally the amount of LSD to 

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kill an elephant was determined,
right? 

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They literally killed an 
elephant. 

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So they literally killed an 
elephant. 

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Where? 
How much did he have to take to 

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kill an elephant? 
That's a great question, but 

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they're killing an elephant 
right now with what these guys 

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are doing. 
To the Republican Party. 

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Oh. 
See This is why Mike is so 

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sharp. 
He just made that that 

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connection in one in one quick 
step. 

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Mike, what we may do is we may 
have you call in because there's

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just a little bit of a break up 
in the audio and I think that's 

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the the message you have to say 
is so much more important. 

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Although I love seeing your 
smiling face in the morning and 

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I'm much I enjoy the the 
reaction to it. 

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We're going to play a quick 
clip. 

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I think that's going to let 
people see one of these these 

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NSA type spy OPS. 
And or psyop type thing. 

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This is that that gal from you 
that's doing the Ukraine thing, 

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What's it called? 
STD or something like that. 

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I don't know what the STD stands
for. 

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You know what I'm talking about 
the girl with the bikini. 

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Yeah. 
Lou. 

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John. 
Yeah, Lou, John. 

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So we're going to play her video
real quick and then I'm going to

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have you call me. 
I'm going to send you the number

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real quick. 
Yeah, we'll drop out. 

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We'll call you on that. 
So go ahead and queue up if you 

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would. 
Video #4, I believe Ryan, let's 

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go play Video #4. 
Let's get a better connection to

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Mike and we'll carry on with 
this. 

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Kyle, you're not. 
You're not just upset that I'm 

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now sponsored by Dunkin' Donuts 
instead of your home? 

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I hope you are sponsored. 
I don't have a I don't have a 

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coffee sponsor. 
What I have is a mug from my 

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sponsors with Catholic vote. 
So we may even read our sponsors

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while we get you reconnected in 
here. 

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Let's do this, this video #4. 
We'll drop you out. 

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We'll give you a quick phone 
call. 

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My name is Lujan. 
I'm a 21 year old female soft 

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operator who's been serving with
the Secret Tactical Division for

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19 years now. 
Over the years I've learned a 

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lot about gear, what works, what
doesn't work, and what's going 

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to straight up get you and your 
boys killed. 

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Because each mission is 
different. 

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You need your loadouts to be 
mission dependent. 

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Your loadout needs to be 
constantly evolving and adapting

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to fit the operation. 
That being said, today I want to

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take the knowledge that I've 
accrued while living with the 

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STD and spread it on to you to 
keep you and your boys fucking 

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downrange in the mostly the way 
possible. 

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I'm going to be running you 
through some of my various 

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loadouts, showing you why they 
work and letting you see. 

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The full kit in action so you 
can really get a good grasp of 

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what you need to be doing 
differently. 

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So that's fun. 
I don't know what kind of person

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is involved in that. 
I don't know where that came 

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from, but I know that Mike has 
some some sensations about it. 

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Let's do a quick thanks to our 
sponsors while we get bike back 

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on the line here and we're going
to call him direct. 

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Folks, I hope you bear with us, 
because it is. 

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It's way more interesting to 
hear what he has to say is like 

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I said, visual. 
It is what it is. 

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People are already calling out 
this, this lovely lady for her 

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physical form. 
Before we do anything Wilder, 

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let's talk about our sponsor 
over here. 

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There's or people that we 
sponsor. 

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In fact, this is the dash 
suspendables.com. 

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It's our merch store this 
directly. 

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Supports Garrett Boyle and his 
family. 

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This is his operation. 
So the Dash suspendables.com is 

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going to start shipping soon. 
We'll say a big thanks to them. 

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Also want to say thanks to my 
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my friends at Catholic Vote. 
Now we got Mike on here. 

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M1 SEC. 
I'm going to say thanks to my 

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friends at Catholic Vote. 
There's the Loop, folks. 

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If you're not getting the Loop, 
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And let me just tell you what's 
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Today's Loop has a pro abortion 
ad showing a Catholic praying, a

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deeply sacrilegious move from 
from this morning coming out of 

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Ohio. 
And then? 

471
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One of those favorite people, 
the Sisters of Perpetual 

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Indulgence, engaged in being 
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Shocking enough, someone who is 
not family friendly was at a 

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family friendly beach in 
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themself arrested. 
So check out the loop. 

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There's a whole bunch of other 
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477
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The Justice Department going 
after Catholics and so on. 

478
00:24:06,260 --> 00:24:08,580
My favorite people here. 
All right, let's see if we can 

479
00:24:08,620 --> 00:24:10,380
bring up Mike. 
Can you guys hear Mike? 

480
00:24:10,460 --> 00:24:11,180
Ryan. 
You got him. 

481
00:24:12,660 --> 00:24:13,100
Hello. 
Hello. 

482
00:24:13,900 --> 00:24:15,100
There he is, Okay Mike. 
So we're. 

483
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,320
We were just talking about 
Lujan. 

484
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,920
What is the story with this 
woman? 

485
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,880
People just got to see her. 
She's kind of got this like 

486
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,640
busty figure she's out there 
talking about guns. 

487
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:25,520
God knows why she doesn't, she 
said. 

488
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:30,000
She's a soft, SOFT operator. 
What is a soft operator? 

489
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,320
Well, look, she's she's very 
mimetic. 

490
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,000
I mean, there's a lot of 
theories and she leans into the 

491
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:40,240
mystique quite heavily. 
And this is this is a person who

492
00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,010
blew up on TikTok. 
Sort of around the time when the

493
00:24:45,330 --> 00:24:48,210
military was going through this 
massive recruiting crisis which 

494
00:24:48,210 --> 00:24:52,490
it's still in and you know, sort
of purported to be within the 

495
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:56,010
psyops division would always 
appear sort of at an Army base 

496
00:24:56,210 --> 00:24:59,610
wearing army gear. 
You know, full kit headgear. 

497
00:24:59,890 --> 00:25:03,370
You know, the, you know, the 
giant you know basically assault

498
00:25:03,370 --> 00:25:07,010
rifles and tow is this little 
you know, sort of five foot one.

499
00:25:07,490 --> 00:25:11,070
You know, sort of. 
Perky young presence on TikTok. 

500
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:16,110
And so given the sort of 
constellation of of sort of 

501
00:25:16,110 --> 00:25:19,510
psyops and everything else that 
was sort of part of her content,

502
00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:23,030
she sort of got this reputation 
as Oh well, this is how, you 

503
00:25:23,030 --> 00:25:26,710
know, the military is trying to 
trying to recruit, you know, 

504
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:31,350
young military age men at a time
when they're bruising after 

505
00:25:31,510 --> 00:25:34,110
after January 6th, if you 
remember, there was a giant 

506
00:25:34,110 --> 00:25:36,270
purge of all sort of red 
blooded. 

507
00:25:36,670 --> 00:25:42,030
Right wing people from military 
recruitment and and also within 

508
00:25:42,030 --> 00:25:44,510
within the ranks they had all 
these counter extremism units 

509
00:25:44,510 --> 00:25:49,030
where you know if you would have
Gadsden flag or if you supported

510
00:25:49,230 --> 00:25:53,390
you know any of the the the 
basic centuries old centrist 

511
00:25:53,870 --> 00:25:58,150
positions of of of young people 
in the military you you were 

512
00:25:58,470 --> 00:26:01,910
destroyed basically by either 
the DEI the new DEI committees 

513
00:26:01,910 --> 00:26:03,830
there or the new counter 
extremism ones. 

514
00:26:04,890 --> 00:26:07,010
And so, you know, there are a 
lot of theories about this girl.

515
00:26:07,010 --> 00:26:10,410
But the thing that that I find, 
you know, I don't know which 

516
00:26:10,410 --> 00:26:13,410
ones are true or not. 
The thing that I that I find 

517
00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:19,210
quite interesting about it is, 
is this is this role of the 

518
00:26:19,210 --> 00:26:26,530
military on the Internet and of 
military personnel in what goes 

519
00:26:26,530 --> 00:26:30,690
viral, one of the subjects of 
fascination that I had for a 

520
00:26:30,690 --> 00:26:33,450
long time. 
There's an incredible memo put 

521
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:36,770
out by the Special forces. 
It was a prospectus that was put

522
00:26:36,770 --> 00:26:40,970
out about 18 months ago which 
talked about the future of 

523
00:26:40,970 --> 00:26:45,050
psyops and the future of sort of
digital warfare. 

524
00:26:45,570 --> 00:26:50,530
And the this is a literal it's 
published by I forget which 

525
00:26:50,570 --> 00:26:52,330
branch the Special forces. 
I'll put this at the top of my 

526
00:26:52,330 --> 00:26:53,850
Twitter timeline when I get a 
minute. 

527
00:26:54,850 --> 00:26:59,480
But they literally proposed. 
A the the following is a 

528
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,320
protocol for for what their 
operations are going to look 

529
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,240
like in the future. 
They there's an army psyops 

530
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,720
corps who's driving in a W 
African region and they see a 

531
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,800
sign on the highway for a New 
Port being built by the Chinese.

532
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,160
So what they do is they 
immediately call the US Embassy 

533
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:20,840
in the region and they 
coordinate with their DoD PSYOPS

534
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,160
forces on the Internet to spark 
a online campaign covertly. 

535
00:27:26,620 --> 00:27:31,060
To get the people of this West 
African nation to engage in race

536
00:27:31,060 --> 00:27:35,020
riots against the Chinese 
business owners in the region. 

537
00:27:35,340 --> 00:27:42,860
To and to use that as leverage 
to convince the Chinese to 

538
00:27:42,860 --> 00:27:46,300
convince the African political 
leadership that they need to get

539
00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,300
rid of the Chinese port deal. 
Because that's the only way to 

540
00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,220
stop the destruction of local 
businesses and all the anger on 

541
00:27:54,220 --> 00:27:57,530
the Internet. 
So this is literally like the 

542
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:03,290
army psyops core, like in 
writing, planning to to 

543
00:28:03,330 --> 00:28:08,130
organize, covertly organize race
riots to manipulate the 

544
00:28:08,530 --> 00:28:13,210
political ecology of a foreign 
country. 

545
00:28:14,170 --> 00:28:18,450
I don't think you need to look 
into that too deeply to to 

546
00:28:18,450 --> 00:28:22,890
identify the the ethical 
quandaries of that and the 

547
00:28:22,890 --> 00:28:25,770
domestic blowback. 
This is always been going on 

548
00:28:25,770 --> 00:28:27,290
though. 
So civil affairs is a is a 

549
00:28:27,290 --> 00:28:30,450
division that that operates 
either in tandem or underneath 

550
00:28:30,450 --> 00:28:33,810
the army special operations and 
the and the special forces guys 

551
00:28:33,810 --> 00:28:35,410
out there. 
So they are always doing that 

552
00:28:35,410 --> 00:28:38,970
civil affairs that SIOP move, 
what what is the, what is the 

553
00:28:38,970 --> 00:28:42,810
new danger would you say from 
what is traditionally existed 

554
00:28:42,810 --> 00:28:44,810
and then being able to do it 
with an online core. 

555
00:28:46,410 --> 00:28:50,210
Scale and social media. 
I mean it's it's basically the 

556
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:53,090
same thing that now, look, this 
happened in the Arab Spring. 

557
00:28:54,110 --> 00:28:59,270
What we're coming up on now 12 
years ago, but there is a there 

558
00:28:59,270 --> 00:29:04,550
is a capacity and infrastructure
in place now that did not exist 

559
00:29:04,550 --> 00:29:06,910
before when it was in the 
adolescent phase. 

560
00:29:06,910 --> 00:29:10,830
We are reaching sort of the 
we're approaching the mature 

561
00:29:10,830 --> 00:29:17,230
phase of the military on on the 
Internet and everyday political 

562
00:29:17,230 --> 00:29:20,230
daytoday life, because it wasn't
really until the Trump election 

563
00:29:20,830 --> 00:29:27,230
that that politics. 
Needed so much rigging in the 

564
00:29:27,230 --> 00:29:29,190
eyes. 
There's always at least a little

565
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:31,750
bit of rigging. 
But you know, this is what I 

566
00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:35,990
described recently, as you know,
from throughout the the the 

567
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:38,790
entire 20th century. 
There was something that 

568
00:29:39,230 --> 00:29:42,270
researcher Peter Dale Scott 
called the Yankee Cowboy War, 

569
00:29:42,590 --> 00:29:45,990
which were basically what he 
posited as sort of two factions 

570
00:29:46,270 --> 00:29:49,110
within the CIA that sort of 
rotated. 

571
00:29:49,830 --> 00:29:52,510
You know they you know sort of 
handed power back and forth to 

572
00:29:52,510 --> 00:29:55,070
each other and had that sort of 
constant struggle. 

573
00:29:55,070 --> 00:29:57,590
And the with the the sort of 
Yale wing of the CIA 

574
00:29:57,870 --> 00:30:01,750
representing Northeast business 
interests you know New York City

575
00:30:01,750 --> 00:30:07,910
DC, City of London finance 
finance capital and and some 

576
00:30:07,910 --> 00:30:11,030
Chamber of Commerce with the 
sort of cowboy faction that sort

577
00:30:11,030 --> 00:30:15,110
of Texas and formerly California
military contractor faction 

578
00:30:15,390 --> 00:30:18,110
being the sort of you know oil 
and energy. 

579
00:30:18,940 --> 00:30:21,540
And and a little bit of Chamber 
of Commerce there as well. 

580
00:30:21,980 --> 00:30:26,260
And so it wasn't until Trump 
came along and you know, 

581
00:30:26,260 --> 00:30:30,380
followed immediately by coterie 
of populist winning, populist 

582
00:30:30,380 --> 00:30:36,500
candidates around the world, 
that that domestic politics had 

583
00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:39,860
to be rigged so hard. 
I don't think that the CIA 

584
00:30:39,900 --> 00:30:45,140
necessarily played a dispositive
role in the elections of the 

585
00:30:45,300 --> 00:30:49,320
1990s and the early 2000s. 
Because, you know, you were 

586
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:54,520
between George W Bush, the 
former CIA director, and Bill 

587
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,960
Clinton, who basically, you 
know, ran the Arkansas 

588
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:02,040
operations for the CI A's MK, 
the CI A's Iran Contra. 

589
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,920
These are, yeah, this is like 
there there was a back and 

590
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:12,640
forth, but now with populism 
ascendant without, without 

591
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,040
censorship. 
There is now a saturation level 

592
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,640
that did not exist before. 
People always talk about a uni 

593
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,480
party and you're just talking 
about two guys from two 

594
00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,320
different political parties, but
obviously had were favorable 

595
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680
candidates to the you know sort 
of administrative state, 

596
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,120
national security, state 
operations. 

597
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760
What you think it just got out 
of hand with them. 

598
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,120
It got ahead of them when the 
when people started having 

599
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,560
access to the Internet and they 
were able to get candidates in, 

600
00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:40,920
they being the American people. 
I guess that didn't fall in 

601
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,840
line. 
With the expectations that 

602
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:47,720
they've they've had for years. 
Yeah, they never saw someone 

603
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:52,160
like Trump coming. 
I think if Pat Pat Buchanan that

604
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,680
the Internet you know the World 
Wide Web is rolled out in 1991. 

605
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,880
Pat Buchanan really came on the 
scene politically in 1992 as a 

606
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:06,280
is a populist counterpoint to to
to the sort of Texas A and MCIA 

607
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,400
folks and the Yale CIA folks 
that is the George HW Bush. 

608
00:32:11,090 --> 00:32:12,850
And the and the Bill Clinton 
fact and. 

609
00:32:13,330 --> 00:32:16,090
Those guys. 
Yeah, yeah. 

610
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:20,370
And if, I mean, like Bill 
Clinton was literally Yale Law 

611
00:32:20,370 --> 00:32:24,650
School, Georgetown undergrad and
a Rhodes Scholar and then goes 

612
00:32:24,850 --> 00:32:28,730
on to, you know, we wouldn't 
even retrace all that. 

613
00:32:28,850 --> 00:32:33,010
But the the point is, is I think
if Pat Buchanan had won the 

614
00:32:33,010 --> 00:32:36,050
presidential election in 1992, 
we never would have had a free 

615
00:32:36,050 --> 00:32:42,060
and open Internet the for the 
first. 25 years of the Internet.

616
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:45,780
It was an unalloyed good. 
It was the Defense Department 

617
00:32:45,780 --> 00:32:50,020
itself that funded all of the 
Internet freedom technology that

618
00:32:50,020 --> 00:32:54,220
created it all. 
Tour is a is a darker project 

619
00:32:55,060 --> 00:32:56,060
and. 
What tour is not? 

620
00:32:56,060 --> 00:32:59,220
Not everybody is up on on The 
Onion Router, so maybe you could

621
00:32:59,220 --> 00:32:59,780
start. 
What it is? 

622
00:33:00,020 --> 00:33:04,180
Yeah, it's a dark web. 
It's a way to hide your your IP 

623
00:33:04,180 --> 00:33:07,230
address. 
So that you can anonymously 

624
00:33:07,230 --> 00:33:12,310
access and publish and and sell 
information, products and 

625
00:33:12,310 --> 00:33:14,790
services on the Internet, which 
is very, which was very, very, 

626
00:33:14,790 --> 00:33:18,870
very helpful to the CIA in the 
in the early days of the 

627
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:22,990
Internet, because this is what 
allowed the scaling up of 

628
00:33:22,990 --> 00:33:26,590
capacity building for CIA back 
dissident groups. 

629
00:33:26,990 --> 00:33:27,750
Who? 
Who? 

630
00:33:28,350 --> 00:33:32,290
Whose governments? 
The state department wanted to 

631
00:33:32,290 --> 00:33:37,050
overthrow and install a more 
client USUS back dictator. 

632
00:33:37,490 --> 00:33:40,770
So you know when when we, you 
know we did this and you know 

633
00:33:40,930 --> 00:33:44,210
you try to Iran, China that you 
can go, you can go through 

634
00:33:44,770 --> 00:33:48,370
dozens of countries. 
But this was the the Internet 

635
00:33:48,370 --> 00:33:51,970
itself was a DARPA project. 
It was only handed over to the 

636
00:33:51,970 --> 00:33:55,490
National Science Foundation and 
then privatized because it was 

637
00:33:55,530 --> 00:33:58,810
it was sort of considered to be 
a neo Voice of America. 

638
00:33:59,540 --> 00:34:03,620
So for for folks who don't know 
when, when the CIA was created 

639
00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:08,420
under the national the 1947 
National Security Act, one of 

640
00:34:08,420 --> 00:34:12,020
the first things that was that 
was created was was what was 

641
00:34:12,020 --> 00:34:14,860
called Wisner's Wurlitzer. 
This is named after Frank 

642
00:34:14,860 --> 00:34:17,980
Wisner, who is sort of one of 
the godfathers of the CIA, who 

643
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:21,500
bragged that he had 800 
different media outlets, who he 

644
00:34:21,500 --> 00:34:26,260
could play like a Wurlitzer, 
like a mighty Wurlitzer to 

645
00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:30,370
create a international Symphony.
Of Unified News. 

646
00:34:30,409 --> 00:34:33,530
And a world start. 
Like the the electronic organs, 

647
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:36,489
isn't that that's where. 
My brain goes exactly, exactly, 

648
00:34:36,489 --> 00:34:39,290
exactly. 
So you know, basically the idea 

649
00:34:39,290 --> 00:34:43,530
that that global media could be 
orchestrated like a piano 

650
00:34:44,530 --> 00:34:50,530
because the CIA had proprietary 
media assets in basically every 

651
00:34:50,530 --> 00:34:53,210
country in the world. 
This is, this is. 

652
00:34:53,409 --> 00:34:56,650
Remember, they needed this as 
part of the war effort in World 

653
00:34:56,650 --> 00:34:58,330
War 2. 
This is what allowed. 

654
00:34:58,850 --> 00:35:05,970
You know, this is what allowed 
such such diplomatic alliance 

655
00:35:05,970 --> 00:35:09,090
cohesion was you. 
You had all of these media and 

656
00:35:09,090 --> 00:35:12,330
propaganda assets all rolled up 
in the Office of More 

657
00:35:12,330 --> 00:35:16,170
Information and then when the 
OSS turned into the CIA, they 

658
00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:20,050
simply kept that to go from 
fighting fascism to fighting 

659
00:35:20,050 --> 00:35:22,090
communism. 
Of course, now the target is. 

660
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:25,510
Yeah, Cold War relic the people.
If you're not familiar with 

661
00:35:25,510 --> 00:35:28,750
Voice of America, it's run by 
the Broadcasting Board of 

662
00:35:28,750 --> 00:35:30,630
Governors, a group that I've 
actually worked with a little 

663
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:33,350
bit. 
It is assumed to be full of 

664
00:35:33,350 --> 00:35:37,030
spies of US and other origins. 
There are people that are trying

665
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:38,350
to infiltrate from other 
countries. 

666
00:35:38,710 --> 00:35:41,190
Almost all of them are natives 
of another country. 

667
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:42,990
They're naturalized U.S. 
citizens or otherwise. 

668
00:35:43,150 --> 00:35:44,830
So they have native level 
language skills which is 

669
00:35:44,830 --> 00:35:47,670
incredibly important if you want
to go and move your propaganda, 

670
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:50,150
which is US based propaganda 
into other countries. 

671
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:52,790
So we have ethnically Chinese 
people who were born in China 

672
00:35:52,790 --> 00:35:54,710
that are speaking there, people 
from Taiwan and so on. 

673
00:35:55,110 --> 00:35:57,230
But then you also have people 
from all the different Cold War 

674
00:35:57,230 --> 00:36:00,350
era countries that the Eastern 
bloc, but interestingly some of 

675
00:36:00,350 --> 00:36:03,070
them also have family ties and 
can be leaned on by those 

676
00:36:03,070 --> 00:36:04,630
countries. 
So you're playing this like 

677
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:07,550
double agent, you're playing 
this double agent Russian 

678
00:36:07,550 --> 00:36:09,750
roulette game to. 
Whether or not these loyalties 

679
00:36:09,750 --> 00:36:11,550
lay on our side or the others, 
and if they're going to slant 

680
00:36:11,550 --> 00:36:13,830
things, and if they're going to 
be giving information, it is a 

681
00:36:13,830 --> 00:36:17,470
really bizarre entity. 
And it is sort of a pseudo 

682
00:36:17,470 --> 00:36:21,030
nongovernmental entity too, 
because it gets public funding, 

683
00:36:21,030 --> 00:36:23,870
but it's not specifically 
underneath the government agency

684
00:36:23,990 --> 00:36:26,030
and it answers to the State 
Department nominally. 

685
00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:27,350
I guess that was the way I 
understood it. 

686
00:36:27,550 --> 00:36:29,310
Maybe you could talk about Voice
of America, because I think 

687
00:36:29,510 --> 00:36:32,030
people have no idea what kind of
weird stuff we put our money in.

688
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:38,820
We There is no country on earth.
That we would, you know, so 

689
00:36:38,820 --> 00:36:42,540
charitably disambiguate from its
intelligence services. 

690
00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:45,500
Yeah, I mean just again as 
background voice in America, 

691
00:36:45,740 --> 00:36:49,140
Radio Free Europe, Radio Free 
Liberty, this whole coterie of 

692
00:36:49,140 --> 00:36:55,940
CIA proprietary sister companies
in media where they currently 

693
00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:59,300
are run by, you know, by USAGM, 
the US Agency for Global Media, 

694
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:03,180
which is formerly the Board of 
Broadcast Managers. 

695
00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:07,060
But. 
When did that change started? 

696
00:37:08,700 --> 00:37:10,780
Pretty recently actually. 
Because, I mean, I was working 

697
00:37:10,780 --> 00:37:11,900
with broadcast a couple years 
ago. 

698
00:37:11,940 --> 00:37:13,780
Yeah, Broadcast Board of 
Governors was people that I 

699
00:37:13,780 --> 00:37:18,220
listened to or I had to go work 
with in 2018, something like 

700
00:37:18,220 --> 00:37:19,860
that, I think. 
Yeah, no, I think it was. 

701
00:37:19,860 --> 00:37:22,420
I think it was literally growing
the Trump era when it changed 

702
00:37:22,420 --> 00:37:27,860
everybody to so-called USAGM, 
somebody got from but well, 

703
00:37:28,220 --> 00:37:30,260
nothing changed. 
I know, but you get you get 

704
00:37:30,260 --> 00:37:31,420
promoted for a name change, 
right? 

705
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:36,720
Right, yes, right. 
But these all started even 

706
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:40,760
though they nominally are said 
to be independent. 

707
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,440
Yes, yes, government. 
Yeah, you get your money from 

708
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,280
the government, but you're 
independent from the government.

709
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:49,240
I love that's but. 
But that is only because they 

710
00:37:49,240 --> 00:37:52,480
caught so much Flack because 
they were directly created by 

711
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,640
the Central Intelligence Agency 
and live that way for 40-50 

712
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,220
years and then. 
Any time there was a news 

713
00:38:00,220 --> 00:38:04,140
headline or a, you know, an 
atrocity in a foreign country 

714
00:38:04,140 --> 00:38:07,100
that was sourced from VLA or 
Radio Free Liberty, everyone 

715
00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:09,340
just said, wait a second, you're
just the CIA. 

716
00:38:09,420 --> 00:38:11,540
And so I said, oh, wait, OK, OK,
we're going to become 

717
00:38:11,540 --> 00:38:14,940
independent now. 
But it's like, what? 

718
00:38:14,940 --> 00:38:18,060
Think about what other country 
on earth we would so charitably 

719
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:19,660
extend that. 
Like, oh, OK, well, they say 

720
00:38:19,660 --> 00:38:21,140
they're independent now. 
They still get their money from 

721
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:22,900
the government. 
They're still basically run out 

722
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:26,580
of the State Department, which 
is the overt side of CIA covert 

723
00:38:26,580 --> 00:38:28,880
activity. 
They were they were born their 

724
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,120
mother is the Central 
Intelligence Agency but you know

725
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,840
they've grown up and become so 
different. 

726
00:38:35,240 --> 00:38:38,640
I mean imagine if Russia you 
know had A at A at a literal 

727
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:43,480
like KGB spawned media outlet 
and who still gets their money 

728
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,520
from the Russian government and 
and but then because they call 

729
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,920
themselves independent now 
because a new entity was set up 

730
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,920
that's housed within the Russian
government you know to to do 

731
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,860
that. 
Russia. 

732
00:38:57,020 --> 00:39:00,020
You can't name a country on 
Earth even if even if the Brits 

733
00:39:00,020 --> 00:39:02,540
did this, we'd say it's a 
British intelligence operation 

734
00:39:02,820 --> 00:39:04,820
anyway. 
The point is, is it was very 

735
00:39:04,820 --> 00:39:07,420
useful. 
Radio Free Europe and Radio Free

736
00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:11,100
Liberty and Radio Free Asia and 
Voice of America and all the CIA

737
00:39:11,100 --> 00:39:14,980
proprietaries were incredibly 
useful during the Cold War, at a

738
00:39:14,980 --> 00:39:19,500
time when the rest of the of of 
of the world was not creating 

739
00:39:19,500 --> 00:39:21,620
its own proprietary media 
content. 

740
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:25,260
Remember a lot of these mediums 
were were brand new when these 

741
00:39:25,260 --> 00:39:29,220
CIA proprietaries were rolled 
out in the 1950s every you know,

742
00:39:29,780 --> 00:39:34,820
radio Vietnam didn't you know, 
didn't have its own, you know, 

743
00:39:34,820 --> 00:39:40,540
vibrant infrastructure of of 
domestic you know, indigenous 

744
00:39:41,380 --> 00:39:46,260
radio frequency channels to 
listen to the news on it was it 

745
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,620
was the only game in town and 
from that is the CIA 

746
00:39:49,620 --> 00:39:52,950
proprietaries. 
We're able to get market 

747
00:39:52,950 --> 00:39:57,430
dominance in a lot of of third 
world and 2nd world regions 

748
00:39:57,870 --> 00:40:01,550
because they had a first mover 
advantage into the soft power 

749
00:40:01,550 --> 00:40:04,510
projection game there. 
Media wise, the same. 

750
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:06,990
This was the vision of the 
Internet when it was privatized 

751
00:40:06,990 --> 00:40:10,990
in 1991. the US controlled the 
Internet. 

752
00:40:11,390 --> 00:40:15,870
The US had the technological it 
had the infrastructure advantage

753
00:40:16,030 --> 00:40:17,990
when it was exported around the 
world. 

754
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:22,460
It was basically like a Neil 
Voice of America and it was used

755
00:40:22,500 --> 00:40:24,700
as such. 
You know, Google came out just 

756
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:29,740
four years after the Internet 
was was was was privatized in 

757
00:40:29,740 --> 00:40:33,740
1995. 
Google started as a DARPA 

758
00:40:33,740 --> 00:40:38,460
project that a DARPA grant given
to Larry Page and and Sergey 

759
00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:44,900
Brin to as part of the CIA&NSA's
Massive Digital Data Systems 

760
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:49,120
program whose whose design was 
to identify political birds of a

761
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,920
feather online through through 
basically the data accumulated 

762
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:59,160
from search engines. 
Google so that the CIA&NSA could

763
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,640
better create a political radar 
system for insurgency and 

764
00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:07,440
counter insurgency movements and
counter insurgency threats 

765
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:11,400
abroad. 
This is this is the this is the 

766
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,640
use of our big tech companies by
the national security state to 

767
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:21,000
big the political ecologies of. 
Countries around the world at 

768
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:26,880
the very dawn of the Internet 
and it was used as a means of of

769
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,240
basically toppling foreign 
governments and everywhere from 

770
00:41:30,240 --> 00:41:36,880
Yugoslavia to Egypt to Tunisia. 
And it wasn't until 2016 came 

771
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,520
around and technically they say 
2014. 

772
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:46,130
But 2016 will say when the the 
maturity of social media and 

773
00:41:46,170 --> 00:41:50,290
people, people having accounts 
that had grown over time and 

774
00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:53,290
because of their authenticity 
had become very popular that 

775
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:58,050
individuals started to be able 
to overtake institutions in 

776
00:41:58,050 --> 00:42:01,690
terms of soft power media 
influence over the populace. 

777
00:42:02,090 --> 00:42:06,370
And once that happened, the 
national security state lost 

778
00:42:06,370 --> 00:42:10,330
control because it's 
institutional assets could not 

779
00:42:10,330 --> 00:42:15,900
overpower popular individuals 
with, with, with large, with, 

780
00:42:16,780 --> 00:42:19,980
with large presences on social. 
So we're literally talking about

781
00:42:20,380 --> 00:42:23,940
the people's will overcoming the
algorithmic sort of a lean 

782
00:42:23,940 --> 00:42:26,380
towards whatever the the 
administrative state candidates 

783
00:42:26,380 --> 00:42:28,220
or the administrative state 
goals are. 

784
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:31,060
Amusingly to me. 
You know it's not all these 

785
00:42:31,060 --> 00:42:33,220
things start off as a bit not 
bad idea. 

786
00:42:33,220 --> 00:42:36,020
Just the same reason as your 
Orca Rottweiler, you know 

787
00:42:36,020 --> 00:42:39,180
Pitbull dragon whale has to be a
thing that we have. 

788
00:42:39,180 --> 00:42:40,820
We have to have a department of 
dirty tricks. 

789
00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,420
And the problem is, is that 
eventually it just gets used on 

790
00:42:43,420 --> 00:42:45,060
your own. 
Citizens, we're talking about, 

791
00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:47,940
you know, organizations that are
responsible for Westernizing 

792
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:51,220
much of the much of the globe. 
And and in that way they've sort

793
00:42:51,220 --> 00:42:52,540
of pulled a lot of people out of
poverty. 

794
00:42:52,540 --> 00:42:53,820
And there's been some good 
things. 

795
00:42:53,820 --> 00:42:56,540
Then of course, it's also 
responsible for massive amounts 

796
00:42:56,540 --> 00:42:59,420
of civil unrest and genocide and
some other stuff that goes on. 

797
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:01,380
It's it's the evil that comes 
along with it. 

798
00:43:01,380 --> 00:43:03,940
And now it's playing in our 
backyard is essentially the way 

799
00:43:03,940 --> 00:43:08,860
that we're looking at it. 
Yeah, no, that's that's exactly 

800
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:11,100
right. 
You know, in the issue now is 

801
00:43:11,710 --> 00:43:14,390
they're having to reframe what 
the conception of democracy 

802
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:17,190
altogether is. 
Because what they're what 

803
00:43:17,190 --> 00:43:23,510
they're realizing is, is there's
almost no amount of propping up 

804
00:43:24,030 --> 00:43:29,830
of these sickly, corrupt, 
unpopular media stations that 

805
00:43:29,830 --> 00:43:34,470
can overcome the voice of 
populist anger against the 

806
00:43:34,470 --> 00:43:37,330
crookedness of the system. 
And so they're having to 

807
00:43:37,370 --> 00:43:45,330
basically input, go from a you 
know more or less gentle soft 

808
00:43:45,330 --> 00:43:51,970
power psychological manipulation
and and sort of gentle rigging 

809
00:43:51,970 --> 00:43:56,690
into these much more hardhanded 
authoritarian state type 

810
00:43:56,690 --> 00:43:59,890
techniques where you literally 
jail their political opponents. 

811
00:43:59,890 --> 00:44:03,690
You like in Ukraine you first of
all that's happening here 

812
00:44:03,810 --> 00:44:08,170
current president's facing like 
750 years in prison the and 

813
00:44:08,170 --> 00:44:11,130
they're calling that democracy. 
Now this is something that would

814
00:44:11,130 --> 00:44:16,010
violate rule #1 of what the 
State Department's you know code

815
00:44:16,010 --> 00:44:18,410
book is on what makes a free and
fair election. 

816
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:22,170
Rule #1 You don't jail the 
leading political opponent. 

817
00:44:22,170 --> 00:44:28,020
It turns out, yeah, you know 
it's two you know, independence 

818
00:44:28,140 --> 00:44:30,300
of of the media from the 
government apparatus. 

819
00:44:30,460 --> 00:44:33,740
The Biden administration 
literally penned a a memo 

820
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:39,660
yesterday to all of the leading 
mainstream media organs saying 

821
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:43,340
cover me favorably. 
Don't don't let the opposition 

822
00:44:43,340 --> 00:44:46,980
paint me as a bad guy. 
Meanwhile, the administration is

823
00:44:46,980 --> 00:44:49,340
fucking funding these 
institutions to the media 

824
00:44:49,340 --> 00:44:51,740
literacy programs. 
I mean there's so much. 

825
00:44:51,820 --> 00:44:55,230
It's it's well, the issue is 
like they're having to define 

826
00:44:55,230 --> 00:45:01,830
democracy as autocracy. 
It because just doing it the old

827
00:45:01,830 --> 00:45:09,950
way is is losing to authentic 
one small voice type people who 

828
00:45:09,950 --> 00:45:14,150
are who are resonating with with
much more clarity than than 

829
00:45:14,150 --> 00:45:15,470
institutions like the New York 
Times. 

830
00:45:15,980 --> 00:45:19,380
So funnily enough my my father 
wrote a book that's called it's 

831
00:45:19,380 --> 00:45:20,860
it's a marketing book. 
It's really an idea. 

832
00:45:20,860 --> 00:45:22,580
It's called When Did You stop 
being you? 

833
00:45:22,660 --> 00:45:24,700
And it's in search of your 
personal brand. 

834
00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:27,300
And amusingly I think people 
like the Biden administration 

835
00:45:27,300 --> 00:45:29,580
and many of these organizations 
that are trying to manipulate 

836
00:45:29,580 --> 00:45:32,420
people online would benefit from
reading this very short book. 

837
00:45:32,420 --> 00:45:34,580
It's got a bunch of little 
exercises in it in order for 

838
00:45:34,580 --> 00:45:37,540
people to determine, is the 
brand that I am projecting in 

839
00:45:37,540 --> 00:45:40,100
public realistic and is it 
something that's perceivable? 

840
00:45:40,100 --> 00:45:42,100
Is it genuine to the person that
I really am? 

841
00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,900
Am I living out my brand and and
what happens is these people. 

842
00:45:45,980 --> 00:45:47,700
Or not living out a legitimate 
brand. 

843
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:50,180
If you're talking about 
democracy but your tools are 

844
00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:54,060
authoritarianism and and 
totalitarianism and and you know

845
00:45:54,140 --> 00:45:56,780
you're just not going to sell it
to the people because people are

846
00:45:56,780 --> 00:45:58,060
more savvy than they've ever 
been. 

847
00:45:58,420 --> 00:46:01,780
They have more and more views 
and more information and and so 

848
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:04,220
that's why this girl with the 
cleavage looks like a psyop to 

849
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:05,900
us because what the hell is she 
doing? 

850
00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:08,740
And and that's why all these 
different people, when they step

851
00:46:08,740 --> 00:46:10,660
up and they say we're really 
going to just help you learn how

852
00:46:10,660 --> 00:46:12,580
to think correctly. 
We're going to sort out what's 

853
00:46:12,580 --> 00:46:14,780
going into your brain cuz you're
just kind of a moron. 

854
00:46:14,780 --> 00:46:15,860
You can't be doing it. 
We're showing the. 

855
00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:18,700
Video right now of Lucian. 
When you have this kind of 

856
00:46:18,700 --> 00:46:20,660
stuff, they don't look 
authentic. 

857
00:46:20,660 --> 00:46:23,340
They don't look realistic to us 
because we know what real is, 

858
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:25,380
because we deal with it every 
single day. 

859
00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:29,060
Those of us who are in the world
know what people in the world 

860
00:46:29,060 --> 00:46:30,700
look like and then you get 
online and you're like, this is 

861
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:33,700
not what the world looks like. 
I wanted to to keep talking 

862
00:46:33,700 --> 00:46:35,540
about this, but I wanted to go 
actually back in time a little 

863
00:46:35,540 --> 00:46:37,340
bit. 
You look like you had a piece 

864
00:46:37,340 --> 00:46:38,940
from Mirage Men. 
Have you seen that? 

865
00:46:38,940 --> 00:46:43,500
The movie Mirage Men, the 
documentary I you're asking me, 

866
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:46,540
I had, I actually did a 40 
minute video on because that's 

867
00:46:46,540 --> 00:46:48,220
what I remember, which I'll put 
at the top of my time. 

868
00:46:48,380 --> 00:46:50,060
Yeah, I want, because I took a 
little clips of it. 

869
00:46:50,540 --> 00:46:52,260
I want to show a little piece of
it for folks. 

870
00:46:52,460 --> 00:46:54,620
There's a video #3 Ryan, if 
you'll clear that up, you'll be 

871
00:46:54,620 --> 00:46:55,940
able to hear. 
We're going to start just a 

872
00:46:55,940 --> 00:46:57,260
little bit of it. 
And then I want you to talk 

873
00:46:57,260 --> 00:46:59,100
about what that movie is about. 
It's an old movie. 

874
00:46:59,100 --> 00:47:02,540
My buddies who are who are FBI 
agents love this movie and they 

875
00:47:02,540 --> 00:47:05,100
hate Air Force OSI because of 
it. 

876
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:07,280
And and and we'll show you a 
little bit why. 

877
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,320
So video #3, sorry, is that 
three? 

878
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:11,520
Yeah, Video #3, let's play a 
little bit of chunk of that. 

879
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040
And then Mike's going to tell 
you about Mirage men, which I 

880
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:18,840
will recommend highly. 
At one point, another agency was

881
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,160
conducting an investigation and 
they set up a surveillance 

882
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:25,880
across the street from him And 
Paul Son contacted me and said, 

883
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,680
leave my father alone. 
You guys are across the street 

884
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,920
and you're bothering my father. 
He's getting to the point that 

885
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,730
he's being paranoid. 
Well, I knew it wasn't us, he 

886
00:47:36,730 --> 00:47:37,290
said. 
He stopped. 

887
00:47:37,650 --> 00:47:42,170
So you're okay, so pop that it. 
Ryan So that's Mike responding 

888
00:47:42,170 --> 00:47:43,330
to it, folks. 
If you go into his Twitter 

889
00:47:43,330 --> 00:47:44,930
timeline, you can find out all 
these little pieces. 

890
00:47:44,930 --> 00:47:46,250
That's just a little taste of 
what's going on. 

891
00:47:46,250 --> 00:47:49,730
But essentially, Meraz Men is 
the story of the Air Force OSI 

892
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:52,410
trying to defend not very good 
technology that was getting 

893
00:47:52,410 --> 00:47:55,610
picked up by very, very smart 
people who live in Albuquerque. 

894
00:47:56,220 --> 00:47:58,740
And This is why one of my loves 
in New Mexico, we're fighting 

895
00:47:58,740 --> 00:48:01,260
for gun rights there right now. 
But a long time ago, there's a 

896
00:48:01,260 --> 00:48:03,260
lot of weird test projects that 
come out of Kirtland Air Force 

897
00:48:03,260 --> 00:48:05,340
Base where I was stationed. 
They've got hollow mountains, 

898
00:48:05,500 --> 00:48:08,420
all the things that would, you 
know, spawn great conspiracy 

899
00:48:08,420 --> 00:48:09,660
theories. 
But there's also this sort of 

900
00:48:09,660 --> 00:48:12,020
like weird alien history there 
and Mirage Men kind of touches 

901
00:48:12,020 --> 00:48:13,540
on that. 
Like you want to kind of give a 

902
00:48:13,540 --> 00:48:15,820
synopsis of of some of the 
operations that were happening 

903
00:48:15,820 --> 00:48:17,620
there. 
Yeah. 

904
00:48:17,620 --> 00:48:20,540
And another thing to keep in 
mind here is the Air Force is 

905
00:48:20,540 --> 00:48:23,420
where psychological operations 
really started. 

906
00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:28,920
That's why you see so many CIA 
people and so many psyops people

907
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:33,240
come out of Air Force 
intelligence and and just so 

908
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,640
folks understand the the reason 
for this is because psyops 

909
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,960
actually you know before it 
became this high tech military 

910
00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:43,800
grade MK Ultra super 
sophisticated you know sort of 

911
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,040
cognitive manipulation soft 
power exercise. 

912
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,840
It began as a very crude 
rudimentary propaganda leaflet 

913
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:57,270
dropping the task by the US Air 
Force. 

914
00:48:57,510 --> 00:49:01,350
That is what we would do is you 
know during during World War 2 

915
00:49:01,350 --> 00:49:04,310
is we would have these planes 
that would fly over and is the 

916
00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:08,710
psyops score would would 
basically drop pro US propaganda

917
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:12,270
out of airplanes or be planted 
by parachuters. 

918
00:49:12,270 --> 00:49:16,270
And so the the people who who 
would literally put boots on the

919
00:49:16,270 --> 00:49:19,710
ground or fly over foreign 
countries because we didn't have

920
00:49:19,710 --> 00:49:24,070
a Voice of America to penetrate 
their media would literally use 

921
00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:28,250
the Air Force assets to deploy 
the Psyops. 

922
00:49:28,250 --> 00:49:32,530
That's why to this day there is 
so much psyops infrastructure 

923
00:49:32,530 --> 00:49:34,130
that's based out of the Air 
Force. 

924
00:49:34,130 --> 00:49:37,090
Just so folks understand it's 
not some random coincidence 

925
00:49:37,090 --> 00:49:38,290
there. 
There is a history. 

926
00:49:38,690 --> 00:49:41,450
But with respect to Miragemen, 
when you have this this 

927
00:49:41,450 --> 00:49:44,970
situation, what I what I think's
happening right now is the story

928
00:49:44,970 --> 00:49:48,490
of drones. 
So you have, you have this 

929
00:49:49,010 --> 00:49:53,030
obsect imperative for classified
activity in the national 

930
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:55,150
security state. 
OBSEC means operational 

931
00:49:55,150 --> 00:49:57,710
security. 
It means protecting what you're 

932
00:49:57,710 --> 00:50:00,310
doing from being disclosed to 
the public. 

933
00:50:00,750 --> 00:50:05,070
And there are techniques for 
obsec that include psychological

934
00:50:05,070 --> 00:50:09,190
techniques in order to throw 
people off the scent and mislead

935
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:12,630
people so that they don't 
identify what you're actually 

936
00:50:12,630 --> 00:50:16,670
doing as a classified activity. 
So one of these things involves 

937
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:21,780
new technologies being tested 
and developed at US Air Force 

938
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:24,580
bases. 
And you know these are huge 

939
00:50:24,580 --> 00:50:28,820
masses of land where there's a 
lot of visibility for the for 

940
00:50:28,820 --> 00:50:32,980
the neighboring residential 
folks when there are aerial 

941
00:50:32,980 --> 00:50:36,300
projects that that the base is 
carrying out now. 

942
00:50:36,700 --> 00:50:39,540
We are currently living through 
the drone wars era. 

943
00:50:40,170 --> 00:50:44,330
All of the Air Force money right
now and R&D, all the DARPA money

944
00:50:44,330 --> 00:50:48,650
for for aerial R&D is going into
unmanned aerial drone vehicles 

945
00:50:49,050 --> 00:50:53,690
and making them sleeker, making 
them more maneuverable, making 

946
00:50:53,690 --> 00:50:57,010
them smaller, making them 
stealthier, making, you know, 

947
00:50:57,050 --> 00:51:02,730
giving them new capacities. 
And every time there's a news 

948
00:51:02,730 --> 00:51:06,930
story about a new drone from a 
individual who happens to live 

949
00:51:06,930 --> 00:51:11,420
near the Air Force Base and then
tells a local journalist or or 

950
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:15,780
God forbid, I, you know, records
it on his iPhone, that's an 

951
00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:19,420
offset hazard to the base, you 
know, from their perspective. 

952
00:51:19,420 --> 00:51:21,500
Well, now the Russians know we 
have those drones. 

953
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:23,340
Now they know we have these 
capacities. 

954
00:51:23,540 --> 00:51:25,580
You know, now, now it's going to
draw all this heat. 

955
00:51:25,580 --> 00:51:28,460
It's going to blow that. 
As you know, in the same way 

956
00:51:28,460 --> 00:51:32,260
that Vault 7 of WikiLeaks blew 
pocket Putin and all these other

957
00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:39,370
NSA hacking techniques, this 
these sorts of sightings blow 

958
00:51:39,570 --> 00:51:43,090
novel capacities from the US Air
Force. 

959
00:51:43,330 --> 00:51:48,970
And So what they engage in is a 
systematic psychological, you 

960
00:51:48,970 --> 00:51:52,490
know, mind war against the 
individuals who report these 

961
00:51:52,490 --> 00:51:54,410
sightings. 
And miragement is the story of 

962
00:51:54,730 --> 00:51:58,130
one such target, this guy, Paul 
Benowitz, who was a family man 

963
00:51:58,370 --> 00:52:01,130
and a military contractor who 
lived right next to Kirtland Air

964
00:52:01,130 --> 00:52:05,230
Force Base. 
Who the NS they, they say, see 

965
00:52:05,270 --> 00:52:10,190
the Air Force OSI on him. 
The NSA moves into an apartment 

966
00:52:10,190 --> 00:52:12,550
next door. 
They monitor him from across the

967
00:52:12,550 --> 00:52:14,070
street. 
They break into his home while 

968
00:52:14,070 --> 00:52:17,510
he's out of town and replace his
computer with a proprietary NSA 

969
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:21,270
computer that automatically 
decrypts messages from the NSA. 

970
00:52:21,310 --> 00:52:25,990
But the NSA has programmed to 
read like an alien language 

971
00:52:26,590 --> 00:52:31,260
speaking exclusively to this 
poor Paul Benowitz guy in order 

972
00:52:31,260 --> 00:52:36,100
to convince Paul that all the 
his his military grade 

973
00:52:36,100 --> 00:52:40,180
monitoring equipment targeted at
the base is actually aliens, not

974
00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:42,540
drones. 
Now given that right now we're 

975
00:52:42,540 --> 00:52:45,580
living through that drone, that 
sort of drone development 

976
00:52:45,980 --> 00:52:50,540
steroid process right now in the
US military, I had very little 

977
00:52:50,540 --> 00:52:54,100
doubt that this new push about 
aliens is to create the 

978
00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:58,060
predicate to do this to all the 
little Paul Benowitzes all over 

979
00:52:58,060 --> 00:52:59,990
the world. 
We're seeing this deployed in 

980
00:52:59,990 --> 00:53:01,670
the US. 
It's really important that 

981
00:53:01,670 --> 00:53:03,590
people understand what a 
distraction this stuff looks 

982
00:53:03,590 --> 00:53:04,750
like. 
It's like, look over here, 

983
00:53:04,750 --> 00:53:06,270
aliens. 
There's the joke is about that 

984
00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:07,230
online. 
That's The funny thing. 

985
00:53:07,390 --> 00:53:08,990
People actually sense this 
intuitively. 

986
00:53:08,990 --> 00:53:10,190
They don't really know 
necessarily. 

987
00:53:10,310 --> 00:53:12,190
They may not have the historical
background of knowing about 

988
00:53:12,190 --> 00:53:14,330
Paul, Benowitz and and. 
And knowing the story of OSI 

989
00:53:14,330 --> 00:53:16,530
going to do that, but they were 
a discrediting operation. 

990
00:53:16,650 --> 00:53:19,330
And what they would do is they 
would just affirm something that

991
00:53:19,330 --> 00:53:21,810
was false. 
And by doing so, it gave people 

992
00:53:21,810 --> 00:53:24,490
this bit, you know, this rabbit 
hole to run down and get into 

993
00:53:24,490 --> 00:53:26,410
the UFO ologist. 
And like every, you know, 

994
00:53:26,610 --> 00:53:28,610
curious kid, I was fascinated by
this kind of stuff. 

995
00:53:28,730 --> 00:53:30,570
When you Start learning that our
own government was out there 

996
00:53:30,570 --> 00:53:33,810
destroying these guys minds and 
literally driving them nuts, I 

997
00:53:33,810 --> 00:53:35,410
think Paul Benowitz, he's dead, 
I think. 

998
00:53:35,730 --> 00:53:37,250
Is that right? 
I think he died penniless. 

999
00:53:38,780 --> 00:53:41,260
Yeah. 
He committed suicide after after

1000
00:53:41,460 --> 00:53:43,300
being committed to into an 
insane asylum. 

1001
00:53:43,380 --> 00:53:45,500
It's only Braves just, yeah, 
they broke this guy's mind. 

1002
00:53:45,580 --> 00:53:47,300
And I want to just touch a 
little bit, too. 

1003
00:53:47,300 --> 00:53:51,190
About Kirtland Air Force Base. 
It's 51,000. 51,000 acres. 

1004
00:53:51,190 --> 00:53:52,870
It's where I was stationed in 
Albuquerque. 

1005
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:56,470
It's on the the SE quadrant of 
the Albuquerque area. 

1006
00:53:56,590 --> 00:53:58,510
It backs up against the Sandia 
mountain range. 

1007
00:53:58,630 --> 00:54:01,830
The mountain range actually ends
on the base and the last three 

1008
00:54:01,830 --> 00:54:03,750
to four mountains that are there
are hollow. 

1009
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:05,630
That's that's publicly available
information. 

1010
00:54:05,790 --> 00:54:08,990
You can actually go on Google. 
You can look down on the base 

1011
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:11,030
and see that some of the 
mountains don't look like real 

1012
00:54:11,030 --> 00:54:12,670
mountains. 
They're built up, they're 

1013
00:54:12,670 --> 00:54:14,150
hollow. 
Their continuity of government 

1014
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:16,750
facilities where they maintain 
all kinds of like stores. 

1015
00:54:16,750 --> 00:54:19,830
I saw trucks driving in and out 
of huge doors all the time. 

1016
00:54:20,030 --> 00:54:21,590
And then every once in a while 
you see one of these alien 

1017
00:54:21,590 --> 00:54:23,830
photos where they're showing 
like a like a saucer that's 

1018
00:54:23,830 --> 00:54:26,030
trying to get into like one of 
these doors and they're and 

1019
00:54:26,070 --> 00:54:27,430
they're all Photoshopped and 
stuff like this. 

1020
00:54:27,430 --> 00:54:29,870
But the the reality is, is 
there's all kinds of projects 

1021
00:54:29,870 --> 00:54:31,630
that are happening. 
One of the fun things, Mike, 

1022
00:54:31,630 --> 00:54:33,110
that you'll find out kind of 
wild. 

1023
00:54:33,150 --> 00:54:35,510
I got a notice when I was on 
Kirtland Air Force Base that the

1024
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:37,190
drinking water was no longer 
safe. 

1025
00:54:38,350 --> 00:54:41,030
And that the arsenic levels were
incredibly high And so we were 

1026
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:43,990
drinking like this like arsenic 
laden, you know, rat poison 

1027
00:54:44,110 --> 00:54:45,990
water, right. 
Standard standard government 

1028
00:54:45,990 --> 00:54:47,910
stuff. 
And then almost almost 

1029
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:50,070
simultaneous to that we found 
out that something like 

1030
00:54:50,070 --> 00:54:54,470
500,000,000 barrels of oil were 
missing from the continuity of 

1031
00:54:54,470 --> 00:54:57,310
government facilities the the 
strategic oil reserve type 

1032
00:54:57,310 --> 00:54:58,430
things. 
And they were like, you know 

1033
00:54:58,430 --> 00:55:01,030
someone has stole it's the 
biggest theft since you know 

1034
00:55:01,030 --> 00:55:02,630
since ever in the United States 
government. 

1035
00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:04,950
It's been going on since the 
1950s, blah blah blah, blah. 

1036
00:55:05,110 --> 00:55:07,150
Then they found out that they 
were just like leaking storage 

1037
00:55:07,150 --> 00:55:08,270
tanks that have been leaching 
into the. 

1038
00:55:08,350 --> 00:55:10,470
Groundwater, so all the things 
that were coming out of the J 

1039
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:13,350
P8, the jet fuel that we would 
use for the Air Force Base, 

1040
00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:14,830
we're actually just going into 
the groundwater. 

1041
00:55:14,830 --> 00:55:17,750
So we're just drinking J, P8, 
you know, mixed in with whatever

1042
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:20,710
tap water was coming out because
the facility was able to fill. 

1043
00:55:21,190 --> 00:55:23,910
So this kind of failure it's 
it's not only are we dealing 

1044
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:27,430
with sophisticated operations, 
we're also dealing with morons 

1045
00:55:27,430 --> 00:55:30,110
that just they go towards the 
dumbest possible solution. 

1046
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,440
And oftentimes it's our own 
government is our own worth 

1047
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,200
enemy in these things. 
Doesn't mean that we don't need 

1048
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,160
a government. 
It just means we've got to be on

1049
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:37,680
it, which is, I know one of the 
things that you guys are 

1050
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,880
involved in exposing the the 
foolishness. 

1051
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:43,360
And then the more people are are
aware, the less they can be 

1052
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,320
tricked by these types of 
operations, which I think is a 

1053
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:47,240
good win. 
It also makes them work really 

1054
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:50,360
hard though. 
But will two things I could add 

1055
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,400
what you just said. 
One is Mirage men actually 

1056
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,960
covers a case where where 
currently Air Force Base 

1057
00:55:57,340 --> 00:56:00,860
poisoned the groundwater in I 
believe the 1970s when it was 

1058
00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:05,420
conducting all these radiation 
experiments in the region which 

1059
00:56:05,460 --> 00:56:08,660
which which resulted in the mass
death of animals. 

1060
00:56:09,460 --> 00:56:14,980
Animals being basically flayed 
alive by by bombs and radiation 

1061
00:56:15,300 --> 00:56:19,380
testing. 
And then that was turned in by 

1062
00:56:19,500 --> 00:56:23,660
by Air Force OSI into local 
rumors that aliens were actually

1063
00:56:23,660 --> 00:56:29,250
playing these animals rather 
than U.S. military bombs being 

1064
00:56:29,250 --> 00:56:31,210
dropped. 
But one other thing is I just 

1065
00:56:31,210 --> 00:56:33,610
and if everyone listening if you
go to the top of my Twitter 

1066
00:56:33,610 --> 00:56:38,690
timeline right now at Mike Bend 
Cyber you will see exactly what 

1067
00:56:38,690 --> 00:56:45,370
Kyle just described about about 
UFO stories as a as a national 

1068
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:49,410
security state sanctioned just 
media distraction mechanism. 

1069
00:56:49,770 --> 00:56:52,870
What what I have at the top of 
the timeline is a post 

1070
00:56:52,870 --> 00:56:58,110
containing the 1954 CIA cable to
the State Department when the 

1071
00:56:58,110 --> 00:57:03,310
when the CIA was working on a on
A to topple the government of 

1072
00:57:03,310 --> 00:57:08,870
Guatemala in in 1954 and the 
Guatemalan government caught on 

1073
00:57:08,870 --> 00:57:12,550
to the CIA plot to overthrow the
government and and and install a

1074
00:57:12,550 --> 00:57:18,270
US back dictator there. 
And so the CIA wrote a wrote pen

1075
00:57:18,270 --> 00:57:22,450
to cable to the state Department
saying hey the government of 

1076
00:57:22,450 --> 00:57:26,970
Guatemala is on to us we need to
activate a news cycle in 

1077
00:57:26,970 --> 00:57:30,170
Guatemala. 
Here's here's the direct words 

1078
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:32,650
of the memo if possible. 
This is on State is on 

1079
00:57:32,650 --> 00:57:37,130
history.state.gov OK, this is a 
State department.gov website 

1080
00:57:37,450 --> 00:57:39,290
because it's all been 
declassified now since it's been

1081
00:57:39,290 --> 00:57:40,850
70 years. 
Where? 

1082
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:43,090
Here it is. 
A telegram from Operation PD 

1083
00:57:43,090 --> 00:57:45,730
success headquarters in Florida 
to the CIA stations in 

1084
00:57:45,730 --> 00:57:49,950
Guatemala. 
If possible, fabricate big human

1085
00:57:49,990 --> 00:57:54,390
interest story like flying 
saucers to take play away. 

1086
00:57:56,190 --> 00:57:58,670
It's literally a fucking CIA. 
I'm sorry. 

1087
00:57:58,670 --> 00:58:03,670
A hecking CIA plot to to 
distract from a busted 

1088
00:58:03,830 --> 00:58:08,350
government overthrow operation 
by getting people focused on 

1089
00:58:08,350 --> 00:58:13,580
fake alien stories instead. 
It's it's it's as old as time 

1090
00:58:13,580 --> 00:58:14,780
getting people to look over 
here. 

1091
00:58:14,780 --> 00:58:16,740
I always equate this to the 
laser pointer. 

1092
00:58:17,220 --> 00:58:19,380
I always tell people if you've 
ever if you feel like you're 

1093
00:58:19,380 --> 00:58:21,820
chasing ghosts in the media. 
If you feel like you're chasing 

1094
00:58:21,820 --> 00:58:24,500
stories and you're outraged at 
this and then that at this and 

1095
00:58:24,500 --> 00:58:27,180
that and it's like a cat that's 
chasing a laser pointer that 

1096
00:58:27,180 --> 00:58:29,420
you're sitting up on the couch 
trying to keep the cat from 

1097
00:58:29,420 --> 00:58:31,220
scratching your your your 
furniture. 

1098
00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:34,060
So you shine the laser pointer 
all over the carpet and the cat 

1099
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,700
attacks the dot, attacks the 
dot, attacks the dot and it's 

1100
00:58:36,700 --> 00:58:38,900
throwing its claws into the 
carpet instead of your your 

1101
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:41,580
upholstery End of the day the 
the cat comes back. 

1102
00:58:41,580 --> 00:58:43,020
It has no. 
Laser, because the laser is 

1103
00:58:43,020 --> 00:58:45,260
being originated somewhere else 
and it's all misdirection. 

1104
00:58:45,260 --> 00:58:47,420
It's all this plot to just keep 
the cat occupied. 

1105
00:58:47,780 --> 00:58:50,580
And you know, these operations 
are trying to keep Americans 

1106
00:58:50,580 --> 00:58:52,660
minds occupied. 
So they're not paying attention 

1107
00:58:52,660 --> 00:58:54,620
to the real problem, which is 
that there's somebody up there 

1108
00:58:54,620 --> 00:58:56,500
with the laser pointer that's 
doing some pretty nefarious 

1109
00:58:56,500 --> 00:58:58,180
stuff on the other end. 
They're just trying to keep 

1110
00:58:58,180 --> 00:59:00,380
these people distracted so they 
can keep doing business as usual

1111
00:59:00,860 --> 00:59:04,500
and and you know that and that 
used to work a lot better when 

1112
00:59:04,500 --> 00:59:06,460
there was only one laser 
pointer, right? 

1113
00:59:06,860 --> 00:59:10,420
The issue is, is now people, you
know, people can tune into the 

1114
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:14,130
Kyle Seraphin Show and just see,
you know, a relative straight 

1115
00:59:14,130 --> 00:59:17,250
shooter who they may agree or 
disagree with on an issue by 

1116
00:59:17,250 --> 00:59:21,650
issue basis, but they're like, 
hey, this is a regular dude, I 

1117
00:59:21,650 --> 00:59:23,810
don't, you know, this feels 
authentic. 

1118
00:59:23,810 --> 00:59:28,490
Whether he's right or wrong, 
there's something really weird 

1119
00:59:28,490 --> 00:59:31,370
when you tune in. 
I mean, after having spent so 

1120
00:59:31,370 --> 00:59:35,090
many years now, like listening 
to news on the Internet from 

1121
00:59:35,090 --> 00:59:40,490
regular everyday people, it's 
you can feel the inauthenticity 

1122
00:59:40,850 --> 00:59:45,650
of state backed, you know, 
mockingbird cutouts. 

1123
00:59:45,650 --> 00:59:51,330
Like when you turn on CNN or you
turn on Fox News or or MSNBC or 

1124
00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:56,810
a BC or NBC, you can like, feel 
the talking points crawling 

1125
00:59:56,810 --> 01:00:00,290
through the skin of the anchors.
These people, you just you 

1126
01:00:00,290 --> 01:00:03,850
instinctively know that if there
was some dark shit in the story 

1127
01:00:04,130 --> 01:00:06,810
that they knew about, they 
wouldn't tell you even if they 

1128
01:00:06,810 --> 01:00:08,570
knew about it. 
Because they can't. 

1129
01:00:08,930 --> 01:00:12,210
It's the so when we used to 
train for human, and human is 

1130
01:00:12,250 --> 01:00:15,010
human intelligence, it's the the
basics of gathering information 

1131
01:00:15,010 --> 01:00:16,650
from other people and they can 
do it. 

1132
01:00:16,650 --> 01:00:18,810
You can do it in a shady spook 
way and you could work for an 

1133
01:00:18,810 --> 01:00:20,930
agency or you can do it in a law
enforcement way. 

1134
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:22,410
And there's a lot of human 
that's involved in law 

1135
01:00:22,410 --> 01:00:24,650
enforcement, right? 
And so they would do this human 

1136
01:00:24,650 --> 01:00:25,810
block. 
And first of all, the people 

1137
01:00:25,810 --> 01:00:28,170
that taught human were the 
weirdest, like most socially 

1138
01:00:28,170 --> 01:00:30,450
awkward people. 
When I was at the FBI Academy, 

1139
01:00:30,450 --> 01:00:32,170
it just made me laugh. 
I'm like, why do we have people 

1140
01:00:32,170 --> 01:00:34,710
who are social retards? 
Out there trying to teach how to

1141
01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:36,950
not be a weirdo. 
And so you end up with a bunch 

1142
01:00:36,950 --> 01:00:38,430
of these agents and there's 
actually videos. 

1143
01:00:38,910 --> 01:00:41,310
There's a guy that's called 
Washington's ghost and he just 

1144
01:00:41,310 --> 01:00:44,310
put out a, you know, an 
interaction with the FBI agent. 

1145
01:00:44,310 --> 01:00:45,550
And it's actually not an FBI 
agent. 

1146
01:00:45,550 --> 01:00:47,750
He's actually a treasury agent 
claiming to be an FBI agent. 

1147
01:00:47,750 --> 01:00:50,470
Even weirder Mike. 
But he's he's with a real agent 

1148
01:00:50,470 --> 01:00:51,710
there in Atlanta. 
And they're going in there 

1149
01:00:51,710 --> 01:00:54,030
interviewing a guy and he's 
like, you ever meet somebody 

1150
01:00:54,030 --> 01:00:56,710
that just makes the hair on your
back stand up and you want to 

1151
01:00:56,710 --> 01:00:58,660
just. 
Let the government know about 

1152
01:00:58,660 --> 01:00:59,940
him. 
Like, we're here for you. 

1153
01:00:59,940 --> 01:01:02,060
We want to help you and the guys
like, you're weird. 

1154
01:01:02,060 --> 01:01:03,460
Get off my porch. 
I don't want to talk to you. 

1155
01:01:03,460 --> 01:01:04,780
Do you have a search warrant? 
Like, go away. 

1156
01:01:05,260 --> 01:01:07,860
There's this whole idea that 
weirdos will go out and try and 

1157
01:01:07,860 --> 01:01:09,260
engage and they're going to try 
to sell it to you. 

1158
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:12,700
And like you just said, you can 
feel that operational weirdness 

1159
01:01:12,700 --> 01:01:14,940
coming out because people go. 
That's not how human beings 

1160
01:01:14,940 --> 01:01:16,740
interact. 
I would always people you know 

1161
01:01:17,020 --> 01:01:18,580
the number one rule is don't be 
weird. 

1162
01:01:19,310 --> 01:01:20,910
But some of these people can't 
help it because what you're 

1163
01:01:20,910 --> 01:01:23,550
asking them to do is so 
unnatural. 

1164
01:01:23,750 --> 01:01:27,510
It's lie with a straight face 
for a reason that you can't get 

1165
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:29,910
behind and believe. 
And it comes off as inauthentic 

1166
01:01:29,910 --> 01:01:31,950
because those people have not 
sold themselves on it. 

1167
01:01:32,150 --> 01:01:34,550
And then you can see the people 
who really do believe it and you

1168
01:01:34,550 --> 01:01:36,110
just go like, okay, you're 
unhinged. 

1169
01:01:36,310 --> 01:01:38,790
That also is really obvious. 
And so we're looking for that 

1170
01:01:38,790 --> 01:01:41,230
thing that's somewhere between 
being a social weirdo who's 

1171
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:43,230
trying to parrot talking points 
that don't make any sense to 

1172
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:45,790
them and being someone who is 
like a zealot. 

1173
01:01:45,950 --> 01:01:48,190
And we can see both of those. 
And somewhere in between is 

1174
01:01:48,190 --> 01:01:50,270
where guys like you and I land, 
where people go. 

1175
01:01:50,270 --> 01:01:52,510
Yeah, they speak really quickly 
and they're obviously passionate

1176
01:01:52,510 --> 01:01:55,190
about what they say, but I 
believe them because they 

1177
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:58,550
believe them and they also know 
what they're talking about most 

1178
01:01:58,550 --> 01:02:01,790
of the time. 
No, exactly, exactly. 

1179
01:02:02,390 --> 01:02:06,270
But it's one of these things now
that is created, it's gone from 

1180
01:02:06,270 --> 01:02:13,970
being a a nuisance to the 
national security state to a 

1181
01:02:13,970 --> 01:02:18,890
like high octane top tier 
geopolitical threat. 

1182
01:02:19,450 --> 01:02:24,810
Which is to say that that, yes, 
because, you know, democracy 

1183
01:02:24,810 --> 01:02:30,420
itself is a product of the news 
in the region of the people 

1184
01:02:30,420 --> 01:02:34,300
voting in that democracy. 
Democracy promotion has been the

1185
01:02:34,300 --> 01:02:39,580
means of soft power, you know. 
So again, just to back up, from 

1186
01:02:39,660 --> 01:02:45,700
from time immemorial up until 
1948, World Empire was done by 

1187
01:02:45,740 --> 01:02:48,200
hard power. 
You know, there's always soft 

1188
01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:50,480
power projection. 
That is, there's always, you 

1189
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:54,920
know, media and economic and 
diplomatic pressure that was 

1190
01:02:54,920 --> 01:02:57,880
always a part of the 
international diplomacy game. 

1191
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,320
You know since the dawn of 
civilization the empire itself 

1192
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,760
was allowed was the the hard 
physical military played a much 

1193
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:13,360
bigger role from civilization. 
You know T0 up until 1948, in 

1194
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,760
1948 when the rules based 
international order was being 

1195
01:03:17,000 --> 01:03:20,520
set up, when architecture is 
being laid down at the end of 

1196
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:25,040
World War 2 and the Geneva, you 
know in the UN Declaration on 

1197
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:30,080
Human Rights came out, there was
a international prohibition on 

1198
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,960
territorial acquisition by 
military force. 

1199
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:37,600
This is one of the and this is 
this is still in effect to this 

1200
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:39,600
day. 
There's a lot of gamesmanship. 

1201
01:03:40,650 --> 01:03:44,410
Yes, there there is a 
international law prohibition on

1202
01:03:44,410 --> 01:03:47,370
the military acquisition of 
territory by force. 

1203
01:03:47,890 --> 01:03:52,490
This is why, for example, with 
the Crimea referendum in 2014 

1204
01:03:53,370 --> 01:03:58,490
the for for Russia to be able to
have the patina of of 

1205
01:03:58,530 --> 01:04:01,770
international legitimacy, the 
people of Crimea had to vote to 

1206
01:04:01,770 --> 01:04:06,250
join the Russian Federation. 
Because, look, Russia is still 

1207
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,640
in the UN. 
There's a spot on the UN 

1208
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:10,400
Security Council, right? 
They are part of the 

1209
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:13,120
international community pariah, 
as they are right now. 

1210
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,680
In order to have to be compliant
with international law, they had

1211
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,480
to have the people vote on that 
referendum. 

1212
01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:21,680
What I'm trying to say is in 
1948, the game changed. 

1213
01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:25,960
You could not acquire territory,
You could not abide by military 

1214
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:29,720
force. 
You had to have the patina of 

1215
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:32,600
the support of the people for 
international recognition. 

1216
01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,080
Which, Which is which is the 
which is sort of the base 

1217
01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:38,810
infrastructure for everything 
else in international diplomacy.

1218
01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:40,370
Let me say anything for people 
that long. 

1219
01:04:40,370 --> 01:04:42,770
Time so they so they're tracking
because I think a lot of people 

1220
01:04:42,770 --> 01:04:45,250
are probably in the buffering 
zone as fast as you and I both 

1221
01:04:45,250 --> 01:04:48,210
speak When we're talking about 
is that you can't just go in 

1222
01:04:48,370 --> 01:04:52,610
take your military like risk and
conquer a territory and claim 

1223
01:04:52,610 --> 01:04:54,290
this is home. 
Put your flag in and say this is

1224
01:04:54,290 --> 01:04:57,050
now my place you can't go take 
Papa you Guinea that way. 

1225
01:04:57,210 --> 01:05:00,650
You got to go to Papa New Guinea
and get them to vote to take you

1226
01:05:00,650 --> 01:05:02,170
on. 
Even if you already invaded 

1227
01:05:02,170 --> 01:05:05,210
there they still have to 
nominally say and we accept you 

1228
01:05:05,210 --> 01:05:06,890
as our new leaders. 
So there has to. 

1229
01:05:06,970 --> 01:05:09,570
To be that in order to be able 
to defend the legitimacy as 

1230
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:11,890
you're saying, which is what was
going on in Crimea and it's why 

1231
01:05:11,890 --> 01:05:15,010
I guess a lot of people are are 
seeing the problematic nature of

1232
01:05:15,010 --> 01:05:17,890
the the Russians just saying 
screw it, we're sick of this 

1233
01:05:17,890 --> 01:05:19,650
nonsense. 
It's already it's it's a veil 

1234
01:05:19,650 --> 01:05:21,010
anyway. 
Let's drop the veil and just 

1235
01:05:21,010 --> 01:05:22,730
move in with our military and 
take back what we want. 

1236
01:05:24,850 --> 01:05:25,730
Right? 
Right. 

1237
01:05:25,930 --> 01:05:30,280
And but but even there, remember
like that the the people in 

1238
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,400
Eastern Ukraine actually, you 
know voted to join the Russian 

1239
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:37,400
Federation like even in in in 
the in the Donetsk and Luhatsk, 

1240
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:40,560
they they held those referendums
the same way they did in Crimea.

1241
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:43,160
They still went through the 
process. 

1242
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,440
Now the way you. 
So what I'm trying to say is 

1243
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:51,720
that the role of the military 
changed after 1948 from being a 

1244
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:57,870
primarily you know, sort of 
kinetic kinetic military hard 

1245
01:05:57,870 --> 01:06:02,950
power territorial acquisition 
force to being as you identify 

1246
01:06:02,950 --> 01:06:07,150
with the sort of you know civil 
affairs folks to being a kind of

1247
01:06:07,590 --> 01:06:14,270
paramilitary support structure 
for this massive democracy 

1248
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:18,750
rigging process in every country
on earth in order to can in 

1249
01:06:18,750 --> 01:06:22,430
order to control the politics 
because the politics are are 

1250
01:06:22,430 --> 01:06:26,190
what you can't just have a 
military occupation anymore. 

1251
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:31,790
You do need to have this patina 
of of international recognition.

1252
01:06:32,390 --> 01:06:36,230
And so I guess what I'm trying 
to say here is, is that's 

1253
01:06:36,790 --> 01:06:39,990
there's this, the the role of 
the media is very important 

1254
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:41,950
there. 
Like we in the Ukraine in the 

1255
01:06:41,950 --> 01:06:45,450
run to 2014, US aid and the 
State Department and the 

1256
01:06:45,450 --> 01:06:49,370
National Endowment for Democracy
which is a CIA cut out pumping 

1257
01:06:49,370 --> 01:06:55,370
combined $5 billion in the 
Ukrainian civil society to 

1258
01:06:55,370 --> 01:06:59,570
create the infrastructure for 
the Right Sector riots that 

1259
01:06:59,570 --> 01:07:01,170
toppled that government. 
Okay. 

1260
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:06,970
We pumped $5 billion worth of 
media assets, union assets, 

1261
01:07:07,170 --> 01:07:12,890
paramilitary assets, education 
assets into the region to create

1262
01:07:12,890 --> 01:07:19,540
a US hub within Ukraine from 
which to effectively January 6th

1263
01:07:19,940 --> 01:07:23,140
the democratically elected 
President of Ukraine Yanukovych 

1264
01:07:23,340 --> 01:07:29,700
out of office in February 2014. 
We so we saturate the region 

1265
01:07:29,700 --> 01:07:34,300
with our media assets in order 
to create a critical component 

1266
01:07:34,740 --> 01:07:38,340
of US National Security state 
plant population. 

1267
01:07:39,300 --> 01:07:43,420
The issue right now with shit 
posters on the Internet and and 

1268
01:07:43,420 --> 01:07:48,780
small authentic voices who grow 
to be more influential than 

1269
01:07:49,260 --> 01:07:56,500
broadcast media organizations is
that they they destroy that 

1270
01:07:56,500 --> 01:08:02,980
entire operational planning 
blueprint that's been around now

1271
01:08:03,220 --> 01:08:07,780
for over 70 years. 
Because if if there's no amount 

1272
01:08:07,780 --> 01:08:13,150
of money that you can pump into 
a region to to drown out the 

1273
01:08:13,150 --> 01:08:16,350
authenticity of a of a popular 
shit poster. 

1274
01:08:16,710 --> 01:08:18,630
And again this is what happened 
in 2016 election. 

1275
01:08:19,390 --> 01:08:22,470
Every single broadcast media 
organization back Hillary 

1276
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:24,510
Clinton. 
There was not a single newspaper

1277
01:08:24,510 --> 01:08:27,510
endorsement, not a single 
newspaper endorsement in the 

1278
01:08:27,510 --> 01:08:30,670
entire country print newspaper 
for Donald Trump. 

1279
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:33,790
And yet he still won because he 
dominated on social media. 

1280
01:08:34,430 --> 01:08:38,990
And at that point, social media 
accounts were allowed to grow to

1281
01:08:38,990 --> 01:08:42,569
huge, to huge subscriberships 
without getting chopped down. 

1282
01:08:42,770 --> 01:08:47,130
Alex Jones in 2016 had more hits
combined on his YouTube channel 

1283
01:08:47,330 --> 01:08:50,609
than the entire broadcast news 
station of CNN. 

1284
01:08:51,290 --> 01:08:53,490
He had like 2 billion views. 
He was big. 

1285
01:08:53,529 --> 01:08:58,250
One man was bigger than, you 
know, basically the CIA&DOD's 

1286
01:08:58,569 --> 01:09:02,609
top broadcast media cut out 
since the Iraq War. 

1287
01:09:03,450 --> 01:09:08,930
And so, but this illustrates the
problem with the operations of 

1288
01:09:09,460 --> 01:09:12,580
of the US military, which is 
that if you can't censor these 

1289
01:09:12,580 --> 01:09:15,660
people, then you can't stop 
these people because there's 

1290
01:09:15,660 --> 01:09:20,020
almost no amount of money on 
earth that can get you to watch 

1291
01:09:20,020 --> 01:09:23,979
a CNN broadcast and be like, you
know what, this guy's making a 

1292
01:09:23,979 --> 01:09:25,859
lot, a lot of sense. 
I really trust him. 

1293
01:09:26,420 --> 01:09:29,140
If there's a Kyle Serafin show 
you can tune into instead. 

1294
01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:32,220
It's true that. 
And then they try and astroturf 

1295
01:09:32,220 --> 01:09:33,939
the stuff too. 
So they'll go out there and try 

1296
01:09:33,939 --> 01:09:35,819
to, you know, generate these 
Lujan types. 

1297
01:09:35,819 --> 01:09:37,460
It's like, yeah, that's that's 
what I think is real. 

1298
01:09:37,620 --> 01:09:39,779
You look at the production value
and what she's doing and the way

1299
01:09:39,779 --> 01:09:41,340
that she's, you know, cultivated
that. 

1300
01:09:41,340 --> 01:09:43,180
And some of that is, is the way 
that people do it. 

1301
01:09:43,180 --> 01:09:45,020
But the other thing is you got 
to have some backing. 

1302
01:09:45,220 --> 01:09:47,180
Knowing what it takes to be able
to put something like together 

1303
01:09:47,180 --> 01:09:50,540
is not, it's not super easy. 
It's just so funny that. 

1304
01:09:51,090 --> 01:09:53,490
I was just thinking back to when
when I went forward with the the

1305
01:09:53,490 --> 01:09:56,010
story about the the Catholics. 
You know, the the instinct is, 

1306
01:09:56,010 --> 01:09:59,530
is that the government is, is 
doing some sort of work against 

1307
01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:01,090
Christians in general in this 
country. 

1308
01:10:01,090 --> 01:10:02,410
I think Christians have been 
sensing it. 

1309
01:10:02,530 --> 01:10:03,570
So they're saying like what it 
is. 

1310
01:10:03,570 --> 01:10:05,810
And of course the government 
pushes back and says no, of 

1311
01:10:05,810 --> 01:10:07,130
course not. 
Like we respect freedom of 

1312
01:10:07,130 --> 01:10:08,930
religion. 
We, you know, we believe that 

1313
01:10:08,930 --> 01:10:10,290
there is a First Amendment right
and so on. 

1314
01:10:10,290 --> 01:10:12,450
And then you go out and you go, 
no, but we actually found this 

1315
01:10:12,450 --> 01:10:14,570
document showing that there's 
like multiple field offices 

1316
01:10:14,570 --> 01:10:17,650
involved in in investigating 
Catholics because they're trying

1317
01:10:17,650 --> 01:10:19,250
to pry bar the way into 
Christians in general. 

1318
01:10:19,410 --> 01:10:22,090
So you do something like that. 
And then everybody is is 

1319
01:10:22,090 --> 01:10:25,370
compelled to pick it up. 
We put it out on uncoverdc.com, 

1320
01:10:25,690 --> 01:10:28,090
which is Tracy Beans his outfit,
which is influential, but it's 

1321
01:10:28,090 --> 01:10:30,610
very, very small and it made it 
to everywhere. 

1322
01:10:30,730 --> 01:10:32,730
You know everybody had to talk 
about it because you couldn't 

1323
01:10:32,730 --> 01:10:35,490
get away with it. 
You can't, you can't censor 

1324
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:37,930
something when it's when it goes
viral enough that people looking

1325
01:10:37,930 --> 01:10:40,570
around going Oh my God, 
everything we knew is true, is 

1326
01:10:40,570 --> 01:10:42,450
true. 
And this is obviously true. 

1327
01:10:42,450 --> 01:10:43,970
And this is coming for people 
who would know. 

1328
01:10:44,450 --> 01:10:46,570
And you know the big the big 
piece for me is you don't post 

1329
01:10:46,570 --> 01:10:48,470
it in an emotional way. 
You just show it. 

1330
01:10:48,670 --> 01:10:50,750
And then of course there's the 
other version, which is that 

1331
01:10:50,750 --> 01:10:52,870
people just really cool the shit
posters you talk about. 

1332
01:10:53,030 --> 01:10:54,430
They're just ridiculing the 
mainstream. 

1333
01:10:54,430 --> 01:10:56,190
And everybody goes like, yeah, 
that's how we all feel. 

1334
01:10:56,670 --> 01:11:00,110
It's just it's wild how much 
they're spending in a fortune. 

1335
01:11:00,310 --> 01:11:01,710
You talked about 5 billion in 
Ukraine. 

1336
01:11:01,710 --> 01:11:04,710
They spend a fortune trying to 
come after, you know, 

1337
01:11:04,710 --> 01:11:06,790
essentially people that are 
working out of their house on 

1338
01:11:06,790 --> 01:11:08,910
their free time in between 
their, you know, real work. 

1339
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:12,230
It's amazing. 
Yeah, well, you know. 

1340
01:11:12,270 --> 01:11:16,430
So again for for your viewers, 
if you go to my Twitter timeline

1341
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:20,520
at Mike Ben Cyber, what I just 
put at the top is exactly what 

1342
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,160
you're talking about. 
So there's a there were 

1343
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:29,840
documents that were obtained 
from a DHS plan to produce 

1344
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:35,040
videos training bystanders to 
take act political speech by 

1345
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:39,270
quote middle-aged pro-life 
advocates and old high school 

1346
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:41,750
friends who are quote budding 
conspiracy theorists. 

1347
01:11:42,110 --> 01:11:46,550
And and I don't and just going 
through this to like talk about 

1348
01:11:46,550 --> 01:11:48,390
what what you're saying about 
the targeting of Catholics by 

1349
01:11:48,390 --> 01:11:49,950
the FBI. 
This is the DHS. 

1350
01:11:50,230 --> 01:11:56,550
The DHS has become the FBI is is
crooked as it is and God is it 

1351
01:11:56,550 --> 01:11:58,350
crooked. 
It is. 

1352
01:11:58,590 --> 01:12:01,310
There is. 
There is the faintest little 

1353
01:12:01,430 --> 01:12:04,790
patina of a chain on it, which 
is that it still is only 

1354
01:12:04,790 --> 01:12:08,030
supposed to be the intelligence 
arm of the Justice Department 

1355
01:12:08,530 --> 01:12:12,050
and technically can't stick. 
It's twisted little fangs into 

1356
01:12:12,050 --> 01:12:16,730
you until you have committed an 
act of suspected lawbreaking. 

1357
01:12:16,850 --> 01:12:17,930
That's actually not even true 
though. 

1358
01:12:17,970 --> 01:12:20,570
Like that's that's actually no, 
you're right, you're right, 

1359
01:12:21,490 --> 01:12:22,490
it's. 
Slightly worse, yeah. 

1360
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:24,490
Counterintelligence and 
counterterrorism, those are 

1361
01:12:24,490 --> 01:12:27,290
ideology based. 
So they can say if you are 

1362
01:12:27,570 --> 01:12:29,930
potentially being targeted by a 
threat country, then you have an

1363
01:12:29,930 --> 01:12:32,090
investigation into you. 
And if you are espousing 

1364
01:12:32,170 --> 01:12:34,770
ideology that has a history of 
something that they claim to be 

1365
01:12:34,770 --> 01:12:37,690
violent, they can also open up 
cases those don't have to allege

1366
01:12:37,690 --> 01:12:39,610
criminals totally. 
We're going to pull up your 

1367
01:12:39,610 --> 01:12:40,490
tongue here. 
Just a second. 

1368
01:12:40,490 --> 01:12:41,810
Too so people can see it. 
Go ahead. 

1369
01:12:43,130 --> 01:12:47,930
What I'm trying to say is what 
DHS has moved into is covering 

1370
01:12:47,930 --> 01:12:56,730
this sort of carry, the sort of 
window around which the FBI has 

1371
01:12:56,730 --> 01:13:00,130
a hard time making a. 
This is why DHS, for example, 

1372
01:13:00,130 --> 01:13:02,170
was picked as the censorship 
center. 

1373
01:13:02,370 --> 01:13:06,780
It was because technically the 
FBI doesn't have. 

1374
01:13:06,860 --> 01:13:09,380
It's not illegal and it's hard 
to come up with a 

1375
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:14,620
counterintelligence predicate 
for for why why the FBI should 

1376
01:13:14,620 --> 01:13:19,300
ban somebody who says hey 
actually masks don't work like 

1377
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:21,660
you can you can you can you can 
make arguments about things like

1378
01:13:21,660 --> 01:13:23,220
you know maybe protests and 
whatnot. 

1379
01:13:23,540 --> 01:13:29,100
But DHS was was it particularly 
the Sissy unit was was set up as

1380
01:13:29,140 --> 01:13:35,000
a kind of you don't even because
DHS doesn't is not even a in arm

1381
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:39,320
of the Justice Department. 
It's a standalone agency and 

1382
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:43,320
it's it can conduct 
investigations whether they're 

1383
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:47,240
suspected law breaking or not. 
And they've really moved into 

1384
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:52,880
this pure sort of political you 
know cognitive manipulation 

1385
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,640
field which is why they're 
partnered with Sandra van der 

1386
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:58,080
Linden who we talked about 
earlier the digital MK Ultra 

1387
01:13:58,080 --> 01:14:00,080
scientist. 
It's Internet censorship 

1388
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,480
scientist, but you'll see here 
in this thread. 

1389
01:14:01,480 --> 01:14:07,300
So like if you go to to to to 
#3DHS Screen wrote a detailed 

1390
01:14:07,300 --> 01:14:10,780
profile for Ann a middle-aged 
pro-life advocate. 

1391
01:14:10,780 --> 01:14:14,060
This is the words the DHS. 
She is a quote suburban mom 

1392
01:14:14,060 --> 01:14:17,860
surrounded by stock footage of 
laundry in a minivan who has 

1393
01:14:17,860 --> 01:14:22,140
quote become increasingly more 
concerned about the welfare of 

1394
01:14:22,140 --> 01:14:26,380
other children. 
So in one scenario, Ann utters 

1395
01:14:26,380 --> 01:14:29,380
the phrase baby killer at a 
local bakery event signal her 

1396
01:14:29,380 --> 01:14:33,360
opposition to abortion. 
DHS gives you the bystander 3 

1397
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:38,240
choices, calling Ann's husband, 
contacting Ann's preacher or 

1398
01:14:38,240 --> 01:14:41,840
stopping by Ann's Ann's house to
chat to her. 

1399
01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:46,160
And then you you you role play 
Ann's hairdresser and what to 

1400
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,080
say when Ann brings up pro-life 
arguments and begins ranting and

1401
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,920
and as the hairdresser DHS. 
This is like a choose your own 

1402
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,520
adventure story gives you the 
the the the adventure of calling

1403
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,990
the sheriff on her at the 
hairdresser's office once she 

1404
01:15:00,990 --> 01:15:04,630
begins ranting about pro-life 
arguments or talking to her 

1405
01:15:04,710 --> 01:15:06,190
coworkers. 
Don't do that. 

1406
01:15:08,070 --> 01:15:10,910
Yeah. 
Or or talking to her coworkers 

1407
01:15:11,110 --> 01:15:14,470
or sleuthing about what Facebook
groups she belongs to online. 

1408
01:15:14,670 --> 01:15:18,590
This is the DHS literally 
creating a fucking Stasi army 

1409
01:15:18,950 --> 01:15:22,790
and their own taxpayer funded 
psychological manipulation 

1410
01:15:22,790 --> 01:15:25,670
research groups, you know, and 
then they go through all these 

1411
01:15:25,670 --> 01:15:28,610
different stock profiles. 
You know, there's there's 

1412
01:15:28,610 --> 01:15:31,290
Courtney, an old high school 
friend who's become a budding 

1413
01:15:31,290 --> 01:15:35,490
conspiracy theorist who also is 
is a suburban mom with laundry 

1414
01:15:35,490 --> 01:15:39,970
in a minivan. 
And DHS targets her because she 

1415
01:15:39,970 --> 01:15:42,210
believes, quote, conspiracy 
theories regarding government 

1416
01:15:42,210 --> 01:15:43,490
connection to child abuse and 
traffic. 

1417
01:15:43,690 --> 01:15:45,970
I don't know about you, Kyle, 
but there's nothing that gives 

1418
01:15:45,970 --> 01:15:49,050
me more faith and confidence 
that the government is not 

1419
01:15:49,050 --> 01:15:53,010
involved in, quote, child abuse 
and and trafficking than to have

1420
01:15:53,050 --> 01:15:59,060
a government unit recruiting 
citizens to stop investigations 

1421
01:15:59,180 --> 01:16:00,700
in the potential government role
there. 

1422
01:16:02,060 --> 01:16:04,860
That's that's 100%. 
Trust me, bro, we're not doing 

1423
01:16:04,860 --> 01:16:06,260
this. 
It's like go find out your 

1424
01:16:06,260 --> 01:16:08,380
neighbors that think we're doing
this and make them stop being 

1425
01:16:08,380 --> 01:16:10,380
those neighbors. 
Let's get why don't you turn 

1426
01:16:10,380 --> 01:16:12,060
them into us? 
We'll straighten them out. 

1427
01:16:12,220 --> 01:16:15,100
That's a totally reputable 
organization doing things like 

1428
01:16:15,100 --> 01:16:16,060
that. 
I agree with you. 

1429
01:16:16,300 --> 01:16:17,900
Nothing like that. 
That's the Streisand Effect, 

1430
01:16:17,900 --> 01:16:20,340
though. 
Unfortunately for them, I mean 

1431
01:16:20,340 --> 01:16:24,260
they. 
It used to be the case that, 

1432
01:16:25,090 --> 01:16:28,930
that you could dismiss a 
conspiracy theory because, you 

1433
01:16:28,930 --> 01:16:31,290
know, if this was really 
happening, wouldn't the 

1434
01:16:31,290 --> 01:16:34,130
government be like cracking down
on you for saying it? 

1435
01:16:34,330 --> 01:16:36,050
Why are you even allowed to say 
this? 

1436
01:16:36,410 --> 01:16:38,890
You know, if, you know, if the 
government is really so bad and 

1437
01:16:38,930 --> 01:16:41,970
they were really doing all these
nasty things, don't you think 

1438
01:16:41,970 --> 01:16:44,130
they would be exerting their 
government coward. 

1439
01:16:44,770 --> 01:16:48,530
It's like that used to be the 
main argument against these 

1440
01:16:48,530 --> 01:16:51,330
things. 
Now there's no power argument. 

1441
01:16:52,210 --> 01:16:53,680
So bad. 
Yes. 

1442
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:56,720
The argument being that if, if, 
why would the government let you

1443
01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:58,320
talk about it if they were 
really doing it? 

1444
01:16:58,360 --> 01:17:01,040
It's like now the government's 
trying to stop you from talking 

1445
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,960
about it. 
Oh, it's so bad. 

1446
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,240
And it's so it's it's such a 
lack of selfawareness. 

1447
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:09,320
I continually say that about 
people that are in the federal 

1448
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,200
sphere. 
There is almost no 

1449
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,040
selfawareness. 
It's like, you know, there's 

1450
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:14,920
the, the funny little video, the
meme video. 

1451
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,640
It's like a we the baddies, you 
know? 

1452
01:17:18,020 --> 01:17:19,860
Is there ever a moment when 
these guys look around and go 

1453
01:17:19,860 --> 01:17:21,580
like, look in the mirror and 
they go like, I think we're the 

1454
01:17:21,580 --> 01:17:24,260
evil people in this story. 
We might be the bad guys. 

1455
01:17:24,500 --> 01:17:27,900
I've never seen it. 
I ran into this at the State 

1456
01:17:27,900 --> 01:17:30,340
Department. 
You know, I was, I was at, I 

1457
01:17:30,380 --> 01:17:33,740
was, I was at the cyber desk. 
I was running the cyber desk on 

1458
01:17:33,740 --> 01:17:39,100
the day that Donald Trump was 
taken off the Internet and be 

1459
01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,220
platformed from everything, 
everything. 

1460
01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:45,780
I mean, this dude was kicked 
from the information age back to

1461
01:17:45,780 --> 01:17:48,380
the Stone Age. 
Okay, they they didn't just kill

1462
01:17:48,380 --> 01:17:50,860
his Twitter. 
They killed his YouTube, his 

1463
01:17:50,860 --> 01:17:53,260
Facebook. 
They killed his MailChimp. 

1464
01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:56,380
They killed his merch store. 
The guy couldn't even sell a 

1465
01:17:56,460 --> 01:17:59,140
fucking Trump mug and he was the
president of the United States. 

1466
01:17:59,140 --> 01:18:02,940
I'm so sorry for my language. 
But, but, and meanwhile 

1467
01:18:03,020 --> 01:18:05,740
everybody else in the State 
Department is doing, you know, 

1468
01:18:05,740 --> 01:18:11,340
jumping Jack high fives and I'm 
like like staring out into the 

1469
01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:16,410
office like you morons, you 
effing morons. 

1470
01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:19,410
Have you any idea what you've 
done to this country's 

1471
01:18:19,410 --> 01:18:23,610
diplomatic posture? 
This every argument we have made

1472
01:18:23,610 --> 01:18:28,970
for 2 1/2 centuries about media 
freedom and about the and the 

1473
01:18:28,970 --> 01:18:33,610
importance of a free and open 
media environment is going to 

1474
01:18:33,610 --> 01:18:36,730
be, you know, it takes 2 1/2 
centuries to build that that 

1475
01:18:36,730 --> 01:18:38,970
reputation. 
It takes 2 1/2 minutes to 

1476
01:18:38,970 --> 01:18:42,320
destroy it. 
And and lo and behold, that 

1477
01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:47,960
frigging day, that frigging day 
I get inbound from from E from 

1478
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:54,280
EU counterparts about how 
they're terrified that the US, 

1479
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,000
these are people who hated 
Trump, by the way. 

1480
01:18:56,240 --> 01:18:58,480
Okay. 
These are people adjacent to the

1481
01:18:58,480 --> 01:19:00,920
EU high commissioners and Angela
Merkel in Germany. 

1482
01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:04,520
These are folks who are not 
friends of Donald Trump. 

1483
01:19:04,880 --> 01:19:08,480
But they all saw that and said, 
whoa, that's terrifying. 

1484
01:19:09,020 --> 01:19:11,860
And that's one more reason we 
need to engage in what was in 

1485
01:19:11,860 --> 01:19:15,100
what was called digital 
strategic autonomy so that 

1486
01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:20,580
Europe is no longer as as 
dependent on US Internet 

1487
01:19:20,580 --> 01:19:23,500
architecture and US Internet 
giants, because if they can do 

1488
01:19:23,500 --> 01:19:28,020
that to their own president, 
they they can do it to us even 

1489
01:19:28,020 --> 01:19:31,700
more easily. 
And and my lieutenants were 

1490
01:19:31,700 --> 01:19:36,100
like, it was, it was so crazy 
because like, they were shocked 

1491
01:19:36,460 --> 01:19:38,660
when Angela Merkel came out and 
made that statement. 

1492
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:42,520
When the EU High Commissioner 
folks came out and made that 

1493
01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,760
made that statement, they they 
were shocked. 

1494
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:47,760
They were like, wait, but I 
thought they would be 

1495
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,640
supportive. 
They're like, how dare they? 

1496
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,480
We just nailed it. 
We're high fiving. 

1497
01:19:53,880 --> 01:20:00,560
Yeah, you can't, like, unscrew 
that Pandora's box like now for 

1498
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:04,820
time immemorial. 
China gets to put in its 

1499
01:20:04,820 --> 01:20:08,460
democracy summit white papers, 
which it literally did the year 

1500
01:20:08,460 --> 01:20:12,420
after this happened, that China 
is actually more of a true 

1501
01:20:12,420 --> 01:20:15,700
democracy than the United States
because the Chinese government 

1502
01:20:16,300 --> 01:20:18,940
has never banned its own 
president from being able to 

1503
01:20:18,940 --> 01:20:20,940
speak. 
They they literally referenced 

1504
01:20:20,940 --> 01:20:22,780
the deplatforming of the 
president. 

1505
01:20:22,980 --> 01:20:24,980
China was no friend of Trump. 
Okay. 

1506
01:20:25,690 --> 01:20:29,810
But this is something that is 
totally devastating to our 

1507
01:20:29,810 --> 01:20:34,250
diplomatic posture and and look,
there's there's no illusions 

1508
01:20:34,250 --> 01:20:36,210
about this, right? 
I mean diplomacy is about is 

1509
01:20:36,210 --> 01:20:39,530
about carrots and sticks more 
than it is about principles. 

1510
01:20:40,090 --> 01:20:44,490
But these things do matter. 
It was. 

1511
01:20:45,010 --> 01:20:48,770
I mean we ran into this all the 
time where where, you know when 

1512
01:20:48,770 --> 01:20:55,130
we were trying to try, you know 
I T infrastructure off of off of

1513
01:20:55,130 --> 01:20:58,570
China's Huawei and trying to 
make arguments around how you 

1514
01:20:58,570 --> 01:21:01,570
know the Chinese national 
security state has a backdoor 

1515
01:21:01,570 --> 01:21:03,970
through through Huawei. 
If you would if you adopt 

1516
01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:06,210
Chinese infrastructure. 
Well the argument we would 

1517
01:21:06,210 --> 01:21:09,610
constantly get back in our face 
from counterparts was Snowden. 

1518
01:21:10,250 --> 01:21:13,450
You do too. 
Yeah, you're doing the same 

1519
01:21:13,450 --> 01:21:14,810
thing. 
I'm going to read you something 

1520
01:21:14,810 --> 01:21:16,850
that that I this is from August 
4th. 

1521
01:21:17,450 --> 01:21:19,770
Secretary Anthony Blinken wrote 
the following quote. 

1522
01:21:20,180 --> 01:21:22,780
The United States strongly 
condemns Russia's conviction of 

1523
01:21:22,780 --> 01:21:25,420
opposition leader Aleski. 
How do you say his last name? 

1524
01:21:25,620 --> 01:21:29,700
Navalny, Navalny. 
OK, on politically motivated 

1525
01:21:29,700 --> 01:21:31,980
charges, the Kremlin cannot 
silence the truth. 

1526
01:21:32,140 --> 01:21:34,820
Navalny should be released. 
My response to this quote tweet,

1527
01:21:35,020 --> 01:21:37,060
quote. 
The Russian Federation strongly 

1528
01:21:37,060 --> 01:21:39,020
condemns the United States 
indictment of opposition 

1529
01:21:39,100 --> 01:21:41,580
opposition leader Donald Trump. 
On politically motivated 

1530
01:21:41,580 --> 01:21:44,100
charges, the Justice Department 
cannot silence the truth. 

1531
01:21:44,260 --> 01:21:46,220
Trump's indictment shouldn't 
should be dismissed. 

1532
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:47,980
And then I followed up with the 
United States. 

1533
01:21:47,980 --> 01:21:49,820
I grew up and would invade the 
United States I live in. 

1534
01:21:50,520 --> 01:21:52,360
At least then we had the 
principles When I was a kid in 

1535
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:55,040
the 80s they they would have 
invaded us Operation Urgent 

1536
01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,240
Fury, operation just cause we're
all examples of we're like ah 

1537
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,400
you're a Banana Republic and we 
may be corporately motivated, 

1538
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:03,080
but you don't even have the 
patina of legitimacy. 

1539
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,440
We're coming in and we would do 
stuff like that and you know we 

1540
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:08,000
people can argue that we were 
doing influence. 

1541
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,680
We were doing the empire 
building in our in our 

1542
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:11,760
hemisphere and I'm sure that's 
correct. 

1543
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,120
But at least we thought we were 
the good guys and at least the 

1544
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:16,520
American people bought that. 
We're not even selling that. 

1545
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:17,920
We're the good guys at this 
point. 

1546
01:22:18,360 --> 01:22:20,640
And we're just blatantly doing 
this stuff and I think you just 

1547
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,840
nailed it on the on the head. 
It's like they were high fiving 

1548
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:27,880
the censorship of our sitting 
president in the in an agency 

1549
01:22:27,880 --> 01:22:32,280
ostensibly that reports to the 
president What what what's less 

1550
01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:33,240
legitimate than that? 
Nailed it. 

1551
01:22:34,320 --> 01:22:36,520
You nailed it. 
I mean, not only would they in 

1552
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:39,680
you know, would would the United
States we used to live in invade

1553
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,040
the current United States. 
That's an amazing line by the 

1554
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,120
way. 
You can take it. 

1555
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,560
You can take it. 
Just credit me before they did 

1556
01:22:46,560 --> 01:22:49,680
the land invasion. 
They would sanction us into 

1557
01:22:49,720 --> 01:22:51,160
bankruptcy. 
That's right. 

1558
01:22:51,160 --> 01:22:52,000
Oh, for sure. 
Yeah. 

1559
01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:54,200
First it would be. 
Starving and we would be reading

1560
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,640
old USA pamphlets as they got 
bombed over here by B2 or B52 

1561
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,040
that would fly over and and drop
leaflet pallets. 

1562
01:23:01,200 --> 01:23:03,520
We'd all be reading about how 
the old USA was better and then 

1563
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:06,240
it would invade us for sure and 
we would have no money and our 

1564
01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,440
gas stations would be empty. 
They would cut us off. 

1565
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:11,240
We'd be driving like cars from 
13 years ago because we wouldn't

1566
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,240
have cars for a few years. 
Then they would invade us for 

1567
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:15,450
sure, right. 
Right. 

1568
01:23:15,450 --> 01:23:17,890
And and again, there's like sort
of two things I sort of want to 

1569
01:23:17,890 --> 01:23:20,490
build on what you just said, 
which is one for folks who don't

1570
01:23:20,490 --> 01:23:30,650
know, you know, Navalny is a CIA
backed Russian politician who 

1571
01:23:30,650 --> 01:23:35,170
the US State Department I think 
has declared like the the true 

1572
01:23:35,170 --> 01:23:37,890
and rightful president of the 
country despite the fact that he

1573
01:23:37,890 --> 01:23:39,890
got less, less than 2% of the 
vote. 

1574
01:23:41,970 --> 01:23:44,370
He's basically the Stacey Abrams
of of Russia. 

1575
01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:51,840
No, he was literally groomed in 
the Yale University Jackson 

1576
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:58,920
School which was, which is a CIA
asset emerging leaders program. 

1577
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:04,800
And so he was incubated. 
This is a Russian politician who

1578
01:24:05,480 --> 01:24:11,240
who is who they tried to get to 
orchestrate a a youth, a 

1579
01:24:11,240 --> 01:24:14,720
nationalist, a right wing 
nationalist youth revolution 

1580
01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:19,960
movement to because all their 
liberal reforms in all the Color

1581
01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,560
Revolution left wing attempts in
Russia failed miserably. 

1582
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:28,400
If you remember back in 2011, 
2012, the US State Department 

1583
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:35,650
tried to tried to basically, you
know, interfere in the 2011, 

1584
01:24:35,650 --> 01:24:40,610
2012 Russian election by by 
shipping in all of these you 

1585
01:24:40,650 --> 01:24:43,370
know, sort of Pussy Riot. 
If you remember Pussy Riot, this

1586
01:24:43,370 --> 01:24:48,370
was this National Endowment for 
Democracy funded feminist rock 

1587
01:24:48,370 --> 01:24:52,050
band. 
Yeah, you know, gross, deviant, 

1588
01:24:52,050 --> 01:24:57,010
sexual like rock band who's who 
was deployed by the US Embassy 

1589
01:24:57,010 --> 01:25:03,030
there in order to create this 
like you know, like transgender 

1590
01:25:03,030 --> 01:25:11,150
like sexually deviant, you know 
youth movement to rise up 

1591
01:25:11,150 --> 01:25:14,830
against Vladimir Putin on the 
basis of his racist, sexist, 

1592
01:25:14,830 --> 01:25:18,630
patriarchal, right wing 
viewpoint that failed miserably 

1593
01:25:19,750 --> 01:25:21,390
and so they. 
Drove Russians right into the 

1594
01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:23,670
arms of a Putin, by the way. 
It's like it did the exact 

1595
01:25:23,710 --> 01:25:26,470
opposite for a failure to read 
the the tea leaves of what 

1596
01:25:26,470 --> 01:25:29,220
Russians are about. 
But that's Okay, right. 

1597
01:25:29,220 --> 01:25:31,340
So they switch tack just like 
they always do. 

1598
01:25:31,340 --> 01:25:34,420
It's the same way that you know 
we support the Azov Battalion 

1599
01:25:34,580 --> 01:25:38,340
you know Nazis in Ukraine just 
as even though we even though 

1600
01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:42,980
right next door in in Turkey, 
you know, we we we support the, 

1601
01:25:42,980 --> 01:25:45,460
you know the Kurdish Antifa 
units. 

1602
01:25:46,460 --> 01:25:50,100
All that matters is, is this 
asset effective at toppling a 

1603
01:25:50,100 --> 01:25:52,540
government and putting a US back
dictator in place. 

1604
01:25:52,900 --> 01:25:56,140
And so Navalny was groomed as a 
as a sort of right wing you know

1605
01:25:56,140 --> 01:26:00,280
two like 2.0 attempt and the the
Office that they've done on 

1606
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,320
Navalny are the most hilarious 
things that were first of all 

1607
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:07,720
the the the the US government 
backed documentary on called 

1608
01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:11,360
Navalny just won best. 
Documentary at the Oscars. 

1609
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:13,600
This year it was objectively the
best. 

1610
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,280
Hollywood. 
Hollywood. 

1611
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:16,680
Oh yeah, dude. 
The thing is the sludge fest. 

1612
01:26:16,680 --> 01:26:20,120
It's someone should do like, you
know like an Honest Trailers 

1613
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,600
about it. 
But but you know, they ran this 

1614
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:26,270
off, by the way, to sanction 
Russia a couple years ago using 

1615
01:26:26,310 --> 01:26:28,670
Bellingcat, a National Endowment
for Democracy. 

1616
01:26:28,750 --> 01:26:30,590
CIA cut out. 
I like it when. 

1617
01:26:30,590 --> 01:26:33,750
People quote Bellingcat stuff, 
they're like a Bellingcat said 

1618
01:26:33,750 --> 01:26:35,590
this. 
It's like really you. 

1619
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:38,030
You always take your force 
feeding from the from the CIA. 

1620
01:26:38,030 --> 01:26:40,030
Is that what you do? 
Yeah. 

1621
01:26:40,030 --> 01:26:43,150
It's top funder is the CIA okay.
That's it's top funders. 

1622
01:26:43,150 --> 01:26:45,190
The National Endowment for 
Democracy which is literally 

1623
01:26:45,190 --> 01:26:52,190
created in 1983 as a as a as a 
non CIACIA cut out because of 

1624
01:26:52,190 --> 01:26:53,910
the time coming out of the 
Church Committee hearings. 

1625
01:26:54,150 --> 01:26:57,590
There wasn't the political 
capital to to do CIA dirty work 

1626
01:26:57,670 --> 01:27:02,830
directly and so Reagan created 
it as this as this is this civil

1627
01:27:02,830 --> 01:27:07,270
society based conduit. 
In fact in the founders I have a

1628
01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:09,590
whole thread if you look at my 
Twitter for just just the phrase

1629
01:27:09,590 --> 01:27:12,070
national democracy, you'll see 
all this but naval, they did 

1630
01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:13,950
this off with Navalny. 
That's really funny that's 

1631
01:27:13,990 --> 01:27:16,230
that's just great because it 
really gets this whole psyops 

1632
01:27:16,510 --> 01:27:22,630
and geopolitics fusion. 
So there one of the ways that 

1633
01:27:22,630 --> 01:27:24,750
they were trying to kill the 
Nord Stream pipeline before they

1634
01:27:24,750 --> 01:27:28,710
just blew it up was through was 
through crippling sanctions and 

1635
01:27:28,710 --> 01:27:32,190
they needed predicates to do so 
that accused the Russians of, 

1636
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:35,670
you know, basically atrocities 
and human rights violations. 

1637
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:39,190
So one of the ways they did this
is they accused the Russians of 

1638
01:27:39,190 --> 01:27:45,510
poisoning Navalny on a on a 
flight that he was on several 

1639
01:27:45,510 --> 01:27:48,210
years ago and this was the 
glove. 

1640
01:27:48,290 --> 01:27:50,090
Hand poison transmission, wasn't
it? 

1641
01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:52,770
It was like a gloved hand. 
It supposedly it's worse. 

1642
01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:54,650
It's worse. 
It's worse. 

1643
01:27:54,650 --> 01:27:57,330
I call it. 
So you understand. 

1644
01:27:57,330 --> 01:28:01,210
So Novichok is said to be the 
most deadly Russian nerve agent 

1645
01:28:01,570 --> 01:28:04,850
you know ever created. 
It kills you instantly. 

1646
01:28:05,730 --> 01:28:08,930
So the so the official story I 
shoot you not the official 

1647
01:28:08,930 --> 01:28:13,990
story, is that Russian K GB 
agents broke into Alexander 

1648
01:28:13,990 --> 01:28:16,470
Navalny's hotel room the night 
before his flight. 

1649
01:28:16,870 --> 01:28:20,030
They picked out the pair of 
underwear that he was going to 

1650
01:28:20,030 --> 01:28:21,550
that he was going to wear on the
flight. 

1651
01:28:21,870 --> 01:28:25,670
They smeared Nova Chuck on the 
underwear and then when Nova 

1652
01:28:25,670 --> 01:28:28,870
Chuck put the underwear when 
when Navalny put the Nova Chuck 

1653
01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:33,790
on as underwear for the flight 
he then fell terribly ill and 

1654
01:28:33,790 --> 01:28:38,240
was flown to basically ACIA 
hospital in in in East Germany. 

1655
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,960
Conveniently as as the plane was
rerouted. 

1656
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:44,720
Of course that was the head of 
CIA operations in Europe for the

1657
01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:49,360
Cold War. 
But but so the official story is

1658
01:28:50,040 --> 01:28:54,600
Navalny's novichok nut sack is 
the reason that that Russia 

1659
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,480
ended up getting getting 
sanctioned. 

1660
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,760
They that they that they 
literally put rushing nerd. 

1661
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:02,160
Now, of course it didn't kill 
him, just like he didn't kill 

1662
01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:03,360
the. 
Well, this is it's the. 

1663
01:29:04,440 --> 01:29:06,840
It's the deadliest nerve agent 
possible unless you get a 

1664
01:29:06,840 --> 01:29:11,080
transdermal scrotal exposure. 
And if you get, if you get the 

1665
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:14,360
transdermal taint and scrotum 
exposure, you actually can 

1666
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,480
survive it. 
It's a little known fact that 

1667
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:18,720
they actually pick out. 
If they had just done it with 

1668
01:29:18,720 --> 01:29:23,880
his tshirt, he'd be done. 
But you can't. 

1669
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,880
You can't die from you can't die
from from the transdermal 

1670
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:30,270
exposure to your ball sack. 
That's just the key, right? 

1671
01:29:30,430 --> 01:29:33,190
Even though you're you're baking
in it in hours, right? 

1672
01:29:33,190 --> 01:29:34,910
Just marinate. 
You're just your grundle 

1673
01:29:34,910 --> 01:29:38,470
marination there is is extreme 
right? 

1674
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:42,910
So so get this we we only know 
the official story because 

1675
01:29:42,910 --> 01:29:45,750
Bellingcat again whose top 
funder is the CIA. 

1676
01:29:46,630 --> 01:29:48,350
The CI A's the most notorious 
cut out. 

1677
01:29:48,990 --> 01:29:54,430
Did a prank call to a Russian 
KGB agent. 

1678
01:29:54,790 --> 01:29:56,870
There's a you can really look 
this up on YouTube. 

1679
01:29:57,150 --> 01:30:01,620
The Bellingcat a prank call 
where they pretended to be 

1680
01:30:01,620 --> 01:30:06,220
another KGB agent and they get 
this KGB agent on the phone call

1681
01:30:06,580 --> 01:30:12,500
to admit to this Nova Chuck nut 
sack plan on the phone with 

1682
01:30:12,500 --> 01:30:16,060
Navalny, with Navalny speaking 
in a in a like you know in a 

1683
01:30:16,100 --> 01:30:20,540
fake KGB accent to to tease this
information out of. 

1684
01:30:20,780 --> 01:30:22,940
This this the best files flag 
that's ever been done. 

1685
01:30:22,940 --> 01:30:27,510
They were able to get him on 
record like and here looks like.

1686
01:30:27,710 --> 01:30:28,990
Everybody falls for the false 
flag. 

1687
01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:31,710
Oh, you're a KGB officer too. 
Let me tell you stories about 

1688
01:30:31,710 --> 01:30:33,950
things that I did with the KGB. 
I've never met you. 

1689
01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:38,750
I'm not going to validate. 
But you anything, it's so bad. 

1690
01:30:40,850 --> 01:30:42,690
Think how KG, you and I are on 
Twitter. 

1691
01:30:42,810 --> 01:30:44,250
Think about how KG, you and I 
are on Twitter. 

1692
01:30:44,250 --> 01:30:46,130
If someone reached out and sends
us a message like, hey, I worked

1693
01:30:46,130 --> 01:30:47,570
for the government, I got this 
thing to tell you. 

1694
01:30:48,090 --> 01:30:50,890
Hard pass, bro. 
You think that the KGB guy was 

1695
01:30:50,890 --> 01:30:52,890
just like Oh yeah, for sure like
you're in the KGB. 

1696
01:30:52,890 --> 01:30:54,970
Well we're all Bros then let's 
just let's just talk shop. 

1697
01:30:55,090 --> 01:30:58,410
Let's talk about the the Nutcuck
sack poisoning. 

1698
01:31:00,130 --> 01:31:02,010
And it's so scripted, it's 
hilarious. 

1699
01:31:02,010 --> 01:31:04,850
Like even at the start of the 
dialogue, the guys like, well, 

1700
01:31:04,850 --> 01:31:06,210
you know, this is a little 
strange. 

1701
01:31:06,210 --> 01:31:08,010
You're not calling me on a 
secured line? 

1702
01:31:08,810 --> 01:31:10,410
And he's like, no, no, it's 
cool, It's cool. 

1703
01:31:10,570 --> 01:31:12,850
Let's just talk, OK? 
No problem. 

1704
01:31:12,850 --> 01:31:15,010
Let's. 
Continue on with this yeah let 

1705
01:31:15,010 --> 01:31:19,730
me let me confess the sanctions 
predicate for for this and so so

1706
01:31:19,730 --> 01:31:22,050
you know and of course that 
that's like it goes it's it's 

1707
01:31:22,250 --> 01:31:25,570
reported completely uncritically
every single like Mockingbird 

1708
01:31:25,570 --> 01:31:28,650
media asset amplifies it wins 
best it best documentary of the 

1709
01:31:28,650 --> 01:31:33,130
year at the Oscars. 
Which I'm gonna let's let's just

1710
01:31:33,130 --> 01:31:35,410
use that to talk to about Rob 
Reiner, which I thought was a 

1711
01:31:35,410 --> 01:31:36,880
really fun. 
A fun thing. 

1712
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:38,640
You were talking about being 
able to sense it coming out of 

1713
01:31:38,640 --> 01:31:40,760
these guys. 
Skin talk, Rob Reiner. 

1714
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:42,120
Talk about the meathead 
connection. 

1715
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,680
Yeah. 
So, you know, I mean, first on 

1716
01:31:45,680 --> 01:31:48,240
the side, so Rob Reiner is this,
you know, sort of big Hollywood 

1717
01:31:48,240 --> 01:31:50,280
producer. 
Literally big, You know, you 

1718
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:55,040
see, literally big. 
But you know, so I first, I 

1719
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:56,880
never really paid much attention
to it. 

1720
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,440
But, you know, he was sort of 
trending because he made this, 

1721
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:04,030
you know, this outrageous 
statement on Twitter that in 

1722
01:32:04,030 --> 01:32:07,750
order to, you know, the only way
to defend democracy is, you 

1723
01:32:07,750 --> 01:32:11,030
know, with Trump like dies in 
prison and there's no, like 

1724
01:32:11,030 --> 01:32:14,230
third party candidates. 
I mean it's basically like when 

1725
01:32:14,230 --> 01:32:18,670
the CIA goes and like rigs an 
election and say like Ukraine it

1726
01:32:18,670 --> 01:32:19,710
this is like this is the 
blueprint. 

1727
01:32:19,990 --> 01:32:23,990
You lock up the opposition 
political candidates and you ban

1728
01:32:23,990 --> 01:32:26,950
opposition political parties. 
I mean, Rob Reiner was just 

1729
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:30,910
calling for exactly what we've 
now done in like a dozen 

1730
01:32:30,910 --> 01:32:33,310
countries through the State 
Department and CIA over the past

1731
01:32:33,310 --> 01:32:35,950
several years. 
And, you know, I I was looking 

1732
01:32:35,950 --> 01:32:38,830
at this tweet and everyone's 
talking about it, you know, from

1733
01:32:38,830 --> 01:32:42,790
sort of the angle of, oh, you 
know, these Hollywood liberals, 

1734
01:32:42,790 --> 01:32:45,390
they're so out of touch. 
They're so tone deaf. 

1735
01:32:45,750 --> 01:32:49,550
They're so hyperbolic. 
There's such silly gooses. 

1736
01:32:49,710 --> 01:32:51,270
I'm looking at this. 
I'm like this doesn't look 

1737
01:32:51,270 --> 01:32:53,430
right. 
There's a, there's a speak, 

1738
01:32:53,630 --> 01:32:57,760
there's a CIA speak that you 
know it when you're sort of are 

1739
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:02,800
in this long enough you you 
identify, which is I think if 

1740
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:04,320
you just show me some space to 
explain this. 

1741
01:33:05,920 --> 01:33:09,360
There's such a thing as mania, 
you know, like the bipolar 

1742
01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:12,280
personality, the, you know, they
they have their highs and their 

1743
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,120
lows. 
They have the sort of delusions 

1744
01:33:14,120 --> 01:33:17,240
of grandeur and they have their 
moments of sort of, you know, 

1745
01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:20,960
latonic low energy, you know, 
sort of depression. 

1746
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:26,920
When people are in a mania, they
tend to focus, for the most part

1747
01:33:27,610 --> 01:33:32,690
on things with high primal 
proximity, money, sex squad 

1748
01:33:32,690 --> 01:33:34,530
goals. 
You know what the crew is doing.

1749
01:33:35,730 --> 01:33:40,570
You know, things that have high 
dopaminergic rewards, that's 

1750
01:33:40,570 --> 01:33:42,890
what. 
That's what Normal people who 

1751
01:33:42,890 --> 01:33:48,170
are on drugs or normal people 
who are bipolar, normal people 

1752
01:33:48,170 --> 01:33:51,210
who I have, what I call the the 
cocaine energy display. 

1753
01:33:51,890 --> 01:33:59,610
There is a there is a sort of a 
addiction, a kind of lexicon for

1754
01:33:59,610 --> 01:34:02,530
State Department pablum. 
You know, there's a, there's a, 

1755
01:34:02,690 --> 01:34:06,970
there's a State Department speak
which involves all these sort of

1756
01:34:06,970 --> 01:34:12,130
highfalutin jargon terms around 
democracy and its substructures 

1757
01:34:12,860 --> 01:34:16,780
when people are on cocaine, when
people are having a mandified. 

1758
01:34:17,420 --> 01:34:18,860
Pole, take a breath. 
We gotta take a breath. 

1759
01:34:19,340 --> 01:34:21,780
There's a there's a specific 
language that people use when 

1760
01:34:21,780 --> 01:34:24,980
they are in government and they 
are pushing a government agenda 

1761
01:34:24,980 --> 01:34:26,460
about it. 
And then you also pivoted 

1762
01:34:26,460 --> 01:34:29,580
directly to to cocaine. 
Just keep going. 

1763
01:34:29,780 --> 01:34:31,860
I just wanted to pause, let 
people digest that. 

1764
01:34:32,940 --> 01:34:37,060
Yeah, well, look, when people 
are in the throes of a manic 

1765
01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:40,740
episode where are on a hard 
stimulant drug like that. 

1766
01:34:41,900 --> 01:34:44,420
The thing is extremely 
unnatural. 

1767
01:34:44,900 --> 01:34:54,500
To spend that high reciting 
basic democracy esoterica with 

1768
01:34:54,540 --> 01:35:00,300
with the with the downer pablum 
of the State Department press 

1769
01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:03,220
release. 
That's so like, I can't begin to

1770
01:35:03,220 --> 01:35:07,460
describe how unnatural like that
that that is. 

1771
01:35:07,460 --> 01:35:11,810
Like imagine Jimi Hendrix all 
like you know at the at the peak

1772
01:35:11,930 --> 01:35:15,930
of a sort of heroin induced flow
state as he's riffing on a 

1773
01:35:15,930 --> 01:35:20,810
guitar and he's for euphoria so 
coming up and and like but his 

1774
01:35:20,810 --> 01:35:26,010
his his lyrics like but and then
he just he stops the solo and 

1775
01:35:26,010 --> 01:35:28,880
just does this like. 
He starts telling you about the 

1776
01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:30,560
life insurance and about how you
really need to. 

1777
01:35:31,240 --> 01:35:33,000
You need to hedge. 
You need to hedge some of the 

1778
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:35,920
dangers in the world with a 
little bit of money invested in 

1779
01:35:35,920 --> 01:35:39,400
a possible, you know, a possible
insurance policy. 

1780
01:35:39,440 --> 01:35:41,480
Normal people don't do that 
right. 

1781
01:35:41,480 --> 01:35:43,240
Normal people don't pivot from 
people. 

1782
01:35:43,640 --> 01:35:45,680
They don't. 
They don't mix fun and whatever 

1783
01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,640
horrible crap the the the the 
government wants you to mouth. 

1784
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,520
Yeah, I agree. 
I'm with you on track and I just

1785
01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,480
think the way people are 
spitting out their coffee, 

1786
01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,280
watching the live chat here, 
listening go like this is so. 

1787
01:35:56,020 --> 01:35:57,700
It's, I mean, this is the 
analytics that you have to do. 

1788
01:35:57,700 --> 01:35:59,540
When you look at the stuff, it's
like, what the Hell's happening 

1789
01:35:59,540 --> 01:36:01,980
here? 
Manic energy plus government 

1790
01:36:01,980 --> 01:36:06,300
talking points equals meathead. 
CIA cut out what's The thing is 

1791
01:36:06,300 --> 01:36:12,660
like is is even normal like 
hardcore left wing progressive 

1792
01:36:12,660 --> 01:36:15,620
zealots don't do that like they 
have. 

1793
01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:20,340
Like they will sometimes talk 
those talking points, but 

1794
01:36:20,340 --> 01:36:23,220
usually not quite so concisely 
and they won't do. 

1795
01:36:23,300 --> 01:36:26,820
Like it's it's it reads 
different, you know. 

1796
01:36:27,180 --> 01:36:30,060
So again, this is not even a 
right wing, left wing thing. 

1797
01:36:30,100 --> 01:36:34,500
This is just a CIA thing or a 
State Department attach a thing.

1798
01:36:34,500 --> 01:36:37,980
And so I looked at this and I 
was like that that don't look 

1799
01:36:37,980 --> 01:36:39,780
right. 
And so it was like within 3 

1800
01:36:39,780 --> 01:36:43,420
seconds I, you know, I started 
looking into Rob Reiner's 

1801
01:36:43,420 --> 01:36:45,260
background. 
So first of all, I just told him

1802
01:36:45,260 --> 01:36:47,220
a little bit. 
I just put in his reply without 

1803
01:36:47,220 --> 01:36:49,300
knowing anything in advance 
other than that he was audio 

1804
01:36:49,300 --> 01:36:51,500
producer. 
I just put what is your 

1805
01:36:51,500 --> 01:36:53,500
relationship with the Central 
Intelligence Agency? 

1806
01:36:54,410 --> 01:36:57,250
And then And then to to, you 
know, because I was like looking

1807
01:36:57,250 --> 01:37:00,690
for a receipt at that point to 
like reply to myself in the 

1808
01:37:00,690 --> 01:37:02,650
comments. 
I was like, yeah, what is this 

1809
01:37:02,650 --> 01:37:05,930
relationship? 
And like within 3 seconds, I 

1810
01:37:05,930 --> 01:37:12,530
find that this dude literally 
headed up a CIA All Star squad. 

1811
01:37:14,130 --> 01:37:16,810
It's now technically it's called
Committee to Investigate Russia.

1812
01:37:17,130 --> 01:37:20,490
But in the center of the 
infographic is Donald Trump and 

1813
01:37:20,490 --> 01:37:23,210
Paul Manafort. 
Putin's like way out to the side

1814
01:37:23,570 --> 01:37:27,130
now in this committee. 
He so he is the founder, 

1815
01:37:27,250 --> 01:37:31,890
director and organizer of this 
committee who is on his board of

1816
01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:36,370
advisors is made-up of there's 
there's there's eight board of 

1817
01:37:36,810 --> 01:37:38,770
eight people on the board of 
advisors, 8 to 10. 

1818
01:37:40,170 --> 01:37:45,250
Four of them. 
Four of them are #1 heads, 

1819
01:37:45,410 --> 01:37:48,810
chiefs of the Central 
Intelligence Agency, Who are his

1820
01:37:48,810 --> 01:37:51,090
personal advisors inside of the 
organization. 

1821
01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:56,900
John Brennan, Michael Morell, 
Leon Panetta, and I forget who 

1822
01:37:56,900 --> 01:37:59,260
the 4th is, I'll, I'll pull it 
up. 

1823
01:37:59,340 --> 01:38:01,300
Yeah, no. 
But what we can say is that is 

1824
01:38:01,300 --> 01:38:04,260
totally organic. 
Everybody probably has a couple 

1825
01:38:04,260 --> 01:38:06,900
of CIA, you know, directors 
whispering in their ear if they 

1826
01:38:06,900 --> 01:38:08,820
have a certain profile, right. 
I mean, Michael B Hain. 

1827
01:38:09,220 --> 01:38:12,300
There's Michael B Hain, yeah. 
So, yeah, Mike, yeah. 

1828
01:38:12,340 --> 01:38:16,260
And Michael B Hain again was not
just the head of the CIA, he was

1829
01:38:16,260 --> 01:38:20,300
also the head of the NSA and a 
former and a four-star general. 

1830
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:24,470
And before that he was in the US
Air Force Intelligence Corps. 

1831
01:38:24,790 --> 01:38:27,590
The exact thing that we just 
talked about is the lead into 

1832
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:28,950
this, this segment. 
So that's. 

1833
01:38:29,070 --> 01:38:30,390
This is when the audience draws 
and goes. 

1834
01:38:30,390 --> 01:38:31,390
Yeah, no big deal. 
That's fine. 

1835
01:38:31,590 --> 01:38:34,910
That's all fine here. 
And Leon Panetta was the head, 

1836
01:38:35,390 --> 01:38:37,430
Yeah, Leon Panetta was the 
number one head of the CIA, the 

1837
01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:39,030
number one head of the Defense 
Department. 

1838
01:38:39,270 --> 01:38:41,510
And he was the White House chief
of staff for Obama. 

1839
01:38:41,510 --> 01:38:44,910
The chief of staff, by the way, 
is the gatekeeper who is, you 

1840
01:38:44,910 --> 01:38:47,310
know, is often more powerful 
than the present himself. 

1841
01:38:47,670 --> 01:38:51,900
So, you know, and then the other
people on this board are J 

1842
01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:56,940
Johnson, the DH, Obama's DHS 
secretary, who basically created

1843
01:38:56,940 --> 01:39:00,740
the CIA censorship architecture 
with the predicate to Sosa, 

1844
01:39:01,220 --> 01:39:05,900
Clint Watts, the the former U.S.
Army counterinsurgency and FBI 

1845
01:39:05,900 --> 01:39:09,340
special agent. 
Basically everybody on his 

1846
01:39:09,340 --> 01:39:13,500
Advisory Board, everybody in his
ear, has a high level above top 

1847
01:39:13,500 --> 01:39:18,090
secret national security 
clearance with literally 4 #1 

1848
01:39:18,090 --> 01:39:19,930
CIA directors. 
So I made the joke that, you 

1849
01:39:19,930 --> 01:39:23,810
know, imagine that, you know you
get invited to Rob Reiner's 

1850
01:39:23,890 --> 01:39:27,650
Malibu pool party thinking that 
you made it in Hollywood and you

1851
01:39:27,650 --> 01:39:31,010
find yourself the only dude in 
the hot tub without a top secret

1852
01:39:31,010 --> 01:39:33,850
national security clearance. 
That's it. 

1853
01:39:33,850 --> 01:39:37,930
What is a little what is What is
Rob Reiner A a a little old 

1854
01:39:37,930 --> 01:39:43,500
Hollywood producer doing with 
4CIA directors as his personal 

1855
01:39:43,660 --> 01:39:46,500
advisors? 
What skill set does Rob Reiner 

1856
01:39:46,700 --> 01:39:50,900
bring to the investigation that 
four CIA directors are taking 

1857
01:39:50,900 --> 01:39:54,300
times out their day to help Rob 
Reiner, the Hollywood producer, 

1858
01:39:54,300 --> 01:39:56,220
accomplish? 
Everybody needs a mental Midget 

1859
01:39:56,220 --> 01:39:59,180
and preferably overweight. 
That can be an empty vessel. 

1860
01:39:59,180 --> 01:40:01,540
He's a big empty vessel. 
He's got lots of room to fill 

1861
01:40:01,540 --> 01:40:03,460
things up and they fill him up 
and then they just squeeze him 

1862
01:40:03,460 --> 01:40:06,300
and he spits out. 
You know, manic CIA talking 

1863
01:40:06,300 --> 01:40:07,660
points. 
It's fantastic. 

1864
01:40:07,820 --> 01:40:11,140
What's more fun than having, 
like a vacuous former actor and 

1865
01:40:11,140 --> 01:40:13,540
a producer and someone that 
doesn't, that basically just 

1866
01:40:13,540 --> 01:40:16,620
reads lines that somebody else 
writes for a living with with 

1867
01:40:16,820 --> 01:40:21,420
legitimately bizarre passion? 
It's so good, It's so good. 

1868
01:40:21,420 --> 01:40:23,060
You couldn't script this, it 
turns out. 

1869
01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:24,820
But it's also really funny and 
sad to watch. 

1870
01:40:27,020 --> 01:40:30,860
Because the script, the script 
of his own movie and what it is,

1871
01:40:30,860 --> 01:40:33,780
is every intelligence service 
needs a needs a media conduit. 

1872
01:40:34,710 --> 01:40:37,670
Yes, that's it. 
They all need somebody to get it

1873
01:40:37,670 --> 01:40:38,630
out there. 
They need to launder the 

1874
01:40:38,630 --> 01:40:41,430
information somehow. 
Mike, before we make everybody 

1875
01:40:41,430 --> 01:40:45,750
go and either start packing food
up in their cave and stacking 

1876
01:40:45,750 --> 01:40:47,670
ammunition in magazines. 
You got any? 

1877
01:40:47,750 --> 01:40:49,630
You got any hope for anybody 
here? 

1878
01:40:49,630 --> 01:40:51,870
From what you're seeing here, 
you got any course of actions 

1879
01:40:51,870 --> 01:40:54,590
that people can engage in? 
I'm okay with the answer is no. 

1880
01:40:54,590 --> 01:40:56,350
But if there is any, let's, 
let's share it. 

1881
01:40:57,910 --> 01:41:01,750
Well, the number one thing you 
can do is talk about this stuff.

1882
01:41:02,130 --> 01:41:03,770
Tell your friends. 
Tell your family. 

1883
01:41:04,650 --> 01:41:05,890
Tell people you know who you 
can. 

1884
01:41:05,890 --> 01:41:11,130
You can trust and nudge if you 
will because you know it's it's 

1885
01:41:11,130 --> 01:41:16,290
hard to overstate the power of 
simply talking about things, 

1886
01:41:16,290 --> 01:41:21,690
sometimes talking sometimes. 
There's no clear set of actions 

1887
01:41:21,890 --> 01:41:25,930
that even sort of present 
themselves as opportunities. 

1888
01:41:27,020 --> 01:41:30,060
That you can really predict in 
advance until it's on the tip of

1889
01:41:30,060 --> 01:41:32,100
everyone's tongue, because 
everyone's talking about it. 

1890
01:41:32,380 --> 01:41:35,220
And then suddenly a million 
different things break open. 

1891
01:41:35,540 --> 01:41:39,660
Now, you know, what I will say 
is that Trump is doing far 

1892
01:41:39,660 --> 01:41:42,340
better in the polls right now 
than he was doing in 2020. 

1893
01:41:42,340 --> 01:41:47,180
At the same time, the regime has
ramped up tactics like, you 

1894
01:41:47,180 --> 01:41:50,220
know, it may be the prosecutors 
who determine this, this 

1895
01:41:50,220 --> 01:41:53,540
election rather than the polls. 
And if that's the case, you know

1896
01:41:53,980 --> 01:41:57,320
this, this country. 
Well, everything we've ever 

1897
01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,520
known about this country is 
going to fly out the window. 

1898
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,480
I mean it's not even clear that 
there's going to be an election 

1899
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,760
at this point. 
I think the trial date is trying

1900
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:09,560
to be set for the this Fanny 
Willis thing for October 23rd is

1901
01:42:09,560 --> 01:42:13,160
like like 10 days before the 
2024 election. 

1902
01:42:13,160 --> 01:42:16,160
They're going to have a a trial 
where he's facing 1000 years. 

1903
01:42:16,320 --> 01:42:18,560
But the issue, but you know, 
look, this is not the first time

1904
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:22,840
that somebody has gone to prison
and then rose back to power. 

1905
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:25,120
I mean, we literally just saw 
this in Israel with with 

1906
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:28,250
Netanyahu. 
Having being indicted on on 

1907
01:42:28,250 --> 01:42:30,930
criminal corruption charges and 
then a year and a half later 

1908
01:42:30,930 --> 01:42:34,450
he's president again. 
This is you can make the 

1909
01:42:34,450 --> 01:42:37,810
argument that you know without 
getting into specifics or 

1910
01:42:37,810 --> 01:42:40,250
weighing into it too deeply, but
you can make the argument that 

1911
01:42:40,250 --> 01:42:41,970
this happened to Gandhi and to 
Mandela. 

1912
01:42:41,970 --> 01:42:47,730
There's a there's a lot of of of
highly persecuted martyr 

1913
01:42:47,730 --> 01:42:52,210
movements that just need to keep
the faith. 

1914
01:42:52,950 --> 01:42:55,550
And stand the test of time, 
because it's gonna get a lot 

1915
01:42:55,550 --> 01:42:59,310
worse before it gets better. 
But the more it's on the tip of 

1916
01:42:59,310 --> 01:43:03,950
everyone's tongues, the better 
positioned you are for a lucky 

1917
01:43:03,950 --> 01:43:05,430
break. 
And basically, that's what we 

1918
01:43:05,430 --> 01:43:07,310
need. 
Now I'll tell you something 

1919
01:43:07,310 --> 01:43:08,390
that's kind of interesting to 
me. 

1920
01:43:08,670 --> 01:43:10,470
I haven't heard anybody float 
this out, but you mentioned the 

1921
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:12,930
chief of staff being somebody 
that's almost the chief of staff

1922
01:43:12,930 --> 01:43:15,410
tends to be like kind of a 
policy nerd, like a wonk that 

1923
01:43:15,410 --> 01:43:18,690
really knows like nuts and bolts
Guy gets things done, guy or 

1924
01:43:18,690 --> 01:43:19,850
girl, I guess. 
Could be, doesn't make a 

1925
01:43:19,850 --> 01:43:21,610
difference. 
But but not somebody that needs 

1926
01:43:21,610 --> 01:43:23,130
to be the public face of the 
franchise. 

1927
01:43:23,170 --> 01:43:25,290
And then you've got the, you 
know, you've got the chief 

1928
01:43:25,290 --> 01:43:27,490
executive is the person that 
everybody has to love and and 

1929
01:43:27,490 --> 01:43:29,370
get behind. 
But a lot of the great ideas 

1930
01:43:29,370 --> 01:43:31,800
come from from behind. 
It'd be really interesting 

1931
01:43:31,800 --> 01:43:34,120
because I feel like Ron DeSantis
and I know these, he's much 

1932
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:35,440
maligned for running for 
president. 

1933
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:37,320
I think he's kind of out of his 
depth in a lot of it for 

1934
01:43:37,320 --> 01:43:39,120
personality wise. 
But when it comes to policy 

1935
01:43:39,120 --> 01:43:41,000
stuff, he seems pretty good. 
It'd be interesting to see an 

1936
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:43,480
alignment there bringing him on 
as a potential chief of staff 

1937
01:43:43,480 --> 01:43:46,800
type guy that keeps the keeps 
the guardrails up and then you 

1938
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,720
let just the wild bull that is 
Trump just upset people. 

1939
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:52,480
I I, I kind of don't care either
way on any of the stuff. 

1940
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:53,960
It just like it doesn't get me 
emotionally. 

1941
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,440
I just want to see in an 
election like 80 election would 

1942
01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:59,800
be good and it's not heavily 
weighed in on it. 

1943
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:02,280
It seems like you have the same 
instincts I do that it's not 

1944
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:04,240
even guaranteed at this point. 
We're literally walking on the 

1945
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:07,000
playbook of places where they 
lock up the opposition, they 

1946
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,760
they outlaw the the other 
parties and then then they just 

1947
01:44:09,760 --> 01:44:12,600
say this is your choice, vote 
for the one guy that we say you 

1948
01:44:12,600 --> 01:44:15,560
can vote for. 
And man, scary to hear other 

1949
01:44:15,560 --> 01:44:17,920
people that you and I haven't 
compared notes on that, but 

1950
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:19,600
we're all here in the same thing
and feeling the same thing, I 

1951
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:23,660
think. 
Well, we gave over $100 billion 

1952
01:44:23,660 --> 01:44:27,820
to Ukraine this year because 
their quote model democracy and 

1953
01:44:28,060 --> 01:44:32,900
and Ukraine banned elections. 
If if, if we're sort of, you 

1954
01:44:32,900 --> 01:44:35,820
know, following the blueprint, I
mean literally Ukraine is 

1955
01:44:35,820 --> 01:44:37,860
banned. 
Not just opposition political 

1956
01:44:37,860 --> 01:44:39,980
parties, not just opposition 
media, not just opposition 

1957
01:44:39,980 --> 01:44:42,820
religions. 
They've now banned the entire 

1958
01:44:42,860 --> 01:44:47,500
election process itself and this
is what we are being Clockworked

1959
01:44:47,500 --> 01:44:52,790
Orange as the like model. 
State of democracy for the US to

1960
01:44:52,790 --> 01:44:54,750
follow. 
In fact, the US, the Samantha 

1961
01:44:54,750 --> 01:44:58,350
Power the USA had recently 
complained that Ukrainians are 

1962
01:44:58,350 --> 01:45:02,670
much more avant-garde about 
about digital surveillance state

1963
01:45:02,670 --> 01:45:05,830
technologies like something 
called their DIA app, and that 

1964
01:45:05,830 --> 01:45:07,950
U.S. citizens are not yet ready 
for but should be. 

1965
01:45:08,590 --> 01:45:11,030
So look, I mean, everything's on
the table. 

1966
01:45:11,710 --> 01:45:14,230
We're in for a wild ride. 
What I would say is like, you 

1967
01:45:14,230 --> 01:45:16,750
know, keep, keep your chin up, 
put your family first. 

1968
01:45:17,370 --> 01:45:20,050
Always hold this in your heart 
and where you can, you know, 

1969
01:45:20,330 --> 01:45:22,650
try, try to maintain a little 
bit of a sense of humor about 

1970
01:45:22,650 --> 01:45:26,290
these things because we're 
witnessing, we're witnessing 

1971
01:45:26,290 --> 01:45:28,690
history and if we look at all 
the tale, it's going to be out 

1972
01:45:28,730 --> 01:45:30,930
of a fucking story. 
So true. 

1973
01:45:30,930 --> 01:45:33,290
I was just thinking about how we
are giving money to Ukraine to 

1974
01:45:33,290 --> 01:45:35,090
do what they're doing so they 
could give it back to Sam 

1975
01:45:35,090 --> 01:45:37,210
Bakeman Freed. 
And if he hadn't gotten caught 

1976
01:45:37,210 --> 01:45:39,130
that they would have been able 
to keep laundering our money 

1977
01:45:39,250 --> 01:45:41,010
back into the Democrat political
process. 

1978
01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:43,540
Amazing stuff. 
What What a great time to be 

1979
01:45:43,540 --> 01:45:45,300
alive. 
Interesting times for sure. 

1980
01:45:45,700 --> 01:45:47,980
Mike, I I told somebody in the 
chat, and I think it's true. 

1981
01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:50,380
If I could just get you and me 
in a bunker somewhere we could 

1982
01:45:50,380 --> 01:45:53,800
just do gorilla broadcasts one 
we would have a ton of fun doing

1983
01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:56,080
it because you're one of my 
favorite guys to talk to. 

1984
01:45:56,080 --> 01:45:59,040
You're you're so sharp and and 
quick with it and like you said,

1985
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:01,400
even though we are looking at 
some of the darkest topics you 

1986
01:46:01,400 --> 01:46:03,640
have the same sense of humor 
that I that I kind of enjoy. 

1987
01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:05,280
So thanks for being with me this
morning. 

1988
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:07,480
Thanks for dialing in. 
I'm glad we were able to fix our

1989
01:46:07,480 --> 01:46:09,080
text stuff. 
Thanks for hanging out and I 

1990
01:46:09,080 --> 01:46:10,240
know you're going to be on Larry
O'Connor. 

1991
01:46:10,240 --> 01:46:15,600
What time you on Larry Show? 
12/10/12 ten so and a little 

1992
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:17,040
less an hour, but yeah, no 
thanks. 

1993
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:18,600
Thanks a lot man. 
Let's run it back soon. 

1994
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,040
Yeah, I look forward to it. 
We'll do it again folks. 

1995
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:23,200
You can follow Mike at the 
Foundation for 

1996
01:46:23,200 --> 01:46:25,720
freedomonline.com. 
That's spelled out all the way 

1997
01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:29,600
Foundation for 
freedomonline.com, all those 

1998
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,400
words in one place. 
Or you could just follow him on 

1999
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:32,760
Twitter and you can link through
all of his stuff. 

2000
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:36,960
His Twitter account is Mike, 
Mike Benz, like Mercedes-Benz, 

2001
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,880
Benz Cyber. 
The word Cyber. 

2002
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,360
Mike Benz Cyber. 
At Mike Benz Cyber. 

2003
01:46:42,360 --> 01:46:45,200
Mike, you are the man. 
I will talk to you very soon. 

2004
01:46:45,400 --> 01:46:47,160
And I want to say thanks to all 
our guests who stuck around with

2005
01:46:47,160 --> 01:46:49,040
us. 
We are streaming here live from 

2006
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:50,960
Liberty Hill, TX. 
Sometimes a little challenge on 

2007
01:46:50,960 --> 01:46:54,560
the live show starts at 9:30 
Eastern Time, 8:30 here in 

2008
01:46:54,560 --> 01:46:57,280
Texas, America. 
And you guys are the best. 

2009
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You really are. 
You've been a great chat group. 

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I've been able to kind of follow
along as you received some of 

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the stuff that we're talking 
about. 

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We talked a bunch of topics 
today. 

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I think they're all going to be 
useful. 

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Share that information with your
friends and family in ways they 

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can digest. 
Show them the movie Mirage Men, 

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It's on. 
I think it's on Netflix. 

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It's it's generally free. 
It'll show you that government 

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sort of psyops the the 
information war has been going 

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on a long time in different 
ways, and your distrust of the 

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government should be high. 
I talked about it yesterday at a

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Twitter space. 
When you have people who work 

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for the government that distrust
the government, those are the 

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right people. 
When you've got people that are 

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working for people like Mike 
Benz and they are high fiving 

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for the platforming, the sitting
president, we have a serious 

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problem. 
And ladies and gentlemen, we 

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have that serious problem. 
It is legit and it is real. 

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It is out there. 
Thanks to all of you for 

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watching. 
Thanks to those who have been 

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leaving our five star view. 
Let's go ahead and read one 

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today from Old Goat Woman. 
What a great title that is. 

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Old Goat Woman entitled one of 
Kyle's best episodes or best 

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01:47:50,630 --> 01:47:53,070
interviews rather. 
Episode 129 Inside the Gulag 5 

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stars. 
Difficult to hear, but everyone 

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should listen. 
How low our justice, How low our

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justice has become. 
So biased. 

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There it is. 
These are good men that the DOJ 

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has chosen to make criminals. 
Your sense of humor that appears

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at times crack me up at the time
you zoned out with Tracy Beans 

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was hilarious. 
That's true. 

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I did talk to Tracy and I was 
doing something else. 

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Sometimes when women's talk to 
me and and I'm just hearing the 

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same thing I just tune out 
that's that's a major character 

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flaw for me. 
Last but a little bit she ends 

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with thank you for providing a 
podcast they never miss old good

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woman you're the best. 
Thanks for sharing all that 

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01:48:25,110 --> 01:48:27,270
stuff Thanks for calling me out.
I actually just subscribed to 

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Tracy Beans on Twitter so I'm 
following her there and I'm also

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01:48:30,110 --> 01:48:32,510
paying her subscription to be 
part of her spaces. 

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Tracy has been a a 100% backer 
of the suspendables. 

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We are really grateful to her 
and and one of the places we've 

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been able to send information to
you. 

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Also by all means we love Tracy 
and we love all of you. 

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We love that you are listening 
to us. 

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If you're listening to this on 
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iHeartRadio, please share it to 
your friends. 

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We do stream this thing even on 
other platforms that we are not 

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big on because we want to be 
able to reach the audience where

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they are, not where we want 
them. 

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But if you can come to 
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add a slash live in front of it 
you'll get the newest episode or

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whatever we're doing live. 
So come join us on 

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rumble.com/kyle Serafin we look 
forward to seeing you there. 

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Thanks to Ryan Mada, Last one, 
Ryan Mata Media MATTA, Ryan 

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Matamedia producing our stream 
on these weekday mornings and 

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follow him on Twitter right 
there, ladies and gentlemen. 

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We will see you again tomorrow 
for a friendly Friday and I 

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think it'll be a an outstanding 
week. 

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We've had a bunch of interviews.
Thanks so much for being with 

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us. 
We will see you tomorrow. 

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Have a great day. 
Thanks for listening to The Kyle

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Seraphin Show streamed live 
weekdays on rubble.com/kyle 

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