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Take a look behind the curtain 
with the real whistleblower, an 

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American patriot. 
Prepare to embrace the 

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uncomfortable truth because this
program has no time for 

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comforting lies. 
Here is civil liberties 

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enthusiast, Second Amendment 
defender, and recovering FBI 

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agent Kyle Serif. 
Well, hello, my friends, welcome

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to the Kyle Serif show. 
Today is Thursday, it is May the

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30th, and we have a fantastic 
show lined up for you with my 

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dear friend, investigative 
reporter suspendable buddy Steve

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Baker. 
He's going to be joining us 

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today and talking to us about 
the method. 

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I proposed that we talk about 
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amenable to it. 
So he's been doing some 

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background research. 
You guys will get a little kick 

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out of some of the stuff I'm 
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archives. 
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going to be a film student at 
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watched a bunch of Weird kind of
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It was something I like to dig 
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my best friends became a a 
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So that was kind of my formation
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I think Steve will get a big 
kick out of this. 

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You guys will as well. 
Let's say thanks real quick to 

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the friends over at 
catholicvote.org. 

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You guys can go to 
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yourself a copy of For God, 
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chapters as well. 
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Birch, who's the president of 
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It is a kind of a blueprint and 
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problems and maybe some 
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cruise towards this very strange
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We'll obviously be monitoring 
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as well, which is going to be a 
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one way or another because we're
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trial that probably should have 
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Not probably. 
Definitely follow Catholic Vote 

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and my friends over there at 
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Make sure you get in the loop. 
If you're not getting your news 

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today from us. 
That's what good place to go and

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do that. 
Couple of things here. 

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Look, I didn't even put it on 

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the screen 'cause I have the 
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This is the engraved one. 
I got to send one to Steve. 

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Actually, I'm going to send him 
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And yeah, actually, I just got a
great little review from, I'm my

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friend George Hill, fellow 
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And he's got that Marine 
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So he's always going to assume 
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That's the way that he rolls. 

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We'll come back to some other 
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Let's get right to it with my 
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investigative journalist. 
There he is, Steve Baker. 

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We're on kind of a sketchy hotel
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we? 
Yeah, man, I I am in full hotel 

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room glory. 
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my hotel room of. 
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soon. 
As you can get that over to me, 

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that'll be great. 
Yeah, we'll work on giving you 

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something to carry around with 
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You just need one more. 
The only thing that's that's key

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when you're carrying your own 
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Well, you don't do a lot of 
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Not anymore. 
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So you, yeah, when you're, when 
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when you're dealing with it 
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make sure you always dump it out
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that's, that's how freedom is 
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We're going to talk a little bit
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I gave you some background and 
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You did a little bit of watching
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Let me see if you can articulate
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in the world, real or imagined. 
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The greatest detective in 
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I mean, it's got to be Sherlock 
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It's got to be Sherlock Holmes 
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Who else could be the number one
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He's the most famous detective 
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Coming from what? 
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And that's what the method comes
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Can I play this video clip? 
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All right? 
This comes from a 1998 film 

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called 0 Effect that none of you
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And here is the method as 
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I begin my examination of the 
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the two OPS as I call them. 
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I have mastered the fine art of 
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at some cost, the supreme 
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dare say, the greatest observer 
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Are you possibly related to Bill
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I saw some similarities in the 
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hair like that, we said. 
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What? 
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Let's let's talk about that when
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I think the 1st and the most 
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whatever is you, you cannot have
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going to take you where you 
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doesn't meet your world view, 
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be, because we all have those. 
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journey process, but I do have a
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that path, that objectivity, the
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observations, as we're working 
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investigate it further, but you 
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I, I like not giving a damn. 
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things that upset people. 
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they find out inconvenient 
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favorite behind, I wouldn't call
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even the second greatest 
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second favorite would be Colombo
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you, you know, obviously he's on
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It's like I thought I had him at
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I thought I had pushed him away 
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I thought I had gotten him off 
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Where does that instinct to to 
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keep digging? 
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talking about, you know, the, 
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I can tell you is just from 
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a hold of something that I am 
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got that bone it, it for me. 
I do want to be right. 

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We're going to have to find. 
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the case may be, I desperately 
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observation and, and really 
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journalism and politics is that 
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last week. 
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Let's put one pin in the the 

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last week I want to open up just
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now I have, have crossed those 
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journalism to the point where 
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outcomes. 
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needle of public opinion and and
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fact has to be discarded and 
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That's what's going on at The 
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Looks like people are taking 
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I've seen people say that you're
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The minute that you don't follow
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as, then suddenly you must be 
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because it's Tribe over Truth, 
which is an episode we did a 

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couple days ago. 
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that for a group of our, you 
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decided that the biggest insult 
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is to call, call us DeSantis 
simp, the most successful 

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governor in maybe the history of
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of instituting conservative 
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over liberty. 
I mean, this is and that. 

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And that is the insult that I'm 
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horrified by and recoil from. 
I mean, absolutely not. 

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Now why why do they think that 

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about me? 
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during the primary season, I I 
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video or sticker or button. 
I never wore the lapel pen or 

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anything else like the Trump 
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So therefore I must be that guy.
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say everything that I want you 
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you're supposed to say it. 
If you don't step up into the 

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space and and echo whatever line
is being handed out that 

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everybody else is on, then then 
you're the problem. 

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And during the primary, I was, 
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If I had been able to vote while
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and during the North Carolina 
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voted for DeSantis at that time.
That's not to say that I was not

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going to eventually carry the 
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nomination, because more 
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who is leading that that ticket 
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administration. 
OK? 

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That's that's the single most 
important thing to me right now 

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also. 
Let's let's hone in on that for 

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one second though, if you don't 
mind, because I want to direct 

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you towards something specific. 
Bona fides you. 

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You referenced it very briefly 
on social media a few times. 

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Would it be fair to say that 
specifically guys like you and 

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I, we've got some real skin in 
this game when it comes to not 

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seeing a weaponized DOJ and 
Biden administration continuing 

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on their path? 
You want to talk about some of 

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yours? 
Not everybody knows your story, 

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folks. 
I highly recommend you guys go 

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look up Steve Baker. 
You can find him TPC the number 

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4 USA on any of the social media
platforms. 

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But Steve and and there's plenty
on them my channel as well. 

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But if you don't know all about 
Steve, Steve's going to give you

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just a maybe the, the liner 
notes on this one. 

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What do you got in in the game 
here? 

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Yeah. 
Right, right. 

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Well. 
And this is exactly where I was 

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going to go before you. 
You set me up. 

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Even better was the fact is, is 
that for the first time in my 

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life, I am a single issue voter.
This time, I've never been that 

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kind of person. 
I've always weighed all of the, 

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you know, the druthers of a 
particular candidate, all the 

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issues. 
This time there's only one 

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candidate out there who says 
that I am going to pardon all 

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the nonviolent J Sixers, and I 
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coverage on January 6th. 
I was arrested March 1st of this

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year after over three years of 
Federal Bureau of Investigative,

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you know, work and delving into 
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tracking every inch of my 
journey. 

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On January 6th, they could never
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but they were like, damn it, 
we're going to hit him with 

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something. 
So they gave me the four basic 

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misdemeanors. 
And then of course, our 

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weaponized DOJ did something 
that you could speak to much 

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better than I can is they sent, 
they sent me over to an FBI 

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field office to self present. 
They did not knock down my door.

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They did not come at me with the
red dots. 

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They didn't shoot my dog. 
But what they did do is they 

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required me to show up and 
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FBI handcuffed me, took me in a 
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courthouse in downtown Dallas. 
They transferred me to the US 

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Marshals, who then proceeded to 
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say it again, for nonviolent 
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for a glorified trespassing 
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That day I got leg chains in the
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front of a magistrate to answer 
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As I like to now refer to it. 
I like misdemeanor terrorism. 

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People will be surprised to 
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show the other day, maybe 
yesterday, the day before I did 

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a 20 minute bit explaining what 
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that terrorism charges in the 
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actually have an underlying 
crime. 

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It's just an ideology that they 
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with. 
So being a quote UN quote, 

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domestic violent extremist 
doesn't mean that you're violent

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and doesn't mean that you're 
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It could actually be a 
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interested in. 
There doesn't have to be an 

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underlying crime for them to 
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investigation with national 
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I think you're very accurate 
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terrorisms. 
I'm sure there is some sort of 

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national security case on you as
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vein, which we found the anti 
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violent extremists because God 
forbid, Steve, you don't just 

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take the government's word for 
everything, which is kind of 

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what I thought journalists were 
supposed to do. 

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You got me now. 
Yeah, you sound great. 

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And if you want to switch it 
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going to be a little more 
stable, we can do that. 

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I've got another clip. 
We'll play for a second. 

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It's another part of the method,
but you tell me when you're 

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ready to switch over. 
Why? 

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Why don't, why don't you do that
and let me try to switch over 

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and see if we get a better 
signal? 

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All right, so folks, we're going
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his connection. 
I'm going to play you a second 

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little clip about the method. 
The key is when you try to go 

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find one thing, you might have a
problem if you were looking for 

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that single piece of evidence 
that either proves or disproves 

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your case. 
It's difficult. 

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So a little piece here from 
Daryl 0, which I think you guys 

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will get a kick out of. 
Again, it's Bill Pullman doing 

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this little bit. 
Here we go. 

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Now a few words. 
I'm looking for things. 

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When you go looking for 
something specific, your chances

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of finding it. 
Are very bad because of all the 

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things in the world, you're only
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When you go looking for anything
at all, your chances of finding 

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it are very good because of all 
the things in the world, you're 

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sure to find some of them. 
It makes perfect sense, does it 

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not? 
It's a simple and yet common 

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sense idea that if you go 
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about every time you've gone to 
go find your keys, and that's by

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the way, that's what he's 
looking for in that scene. 

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This whole movie is set up that 
a man lost his keys and he's 

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trying to find them desperately,
which seems really silly. 

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It turns out there's a lot more 
at play. 

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That's why the movie is fun. 
That's why it's interesting. 

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They sort of slowly unveil 
what's going on and why this 

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guy's keys are so important. 
But think about when you've lost

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your keys, you go everywhere and
you're looking for them and what

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do you find? 
You find all the other stuff 

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that you were looking for the 
other day when you didn't lose 

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your keys and you weren't 
looking for keys. 

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You find, you know, your wallet,
you find the remote that you 

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couldn't find for your TV the 
other day and so on and so 

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forth. 
Again, this is a scene from Zero

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Effect and it's Bill Pullman's 
recreation, kind of an autistic,

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Y antisocial kind of weirdo who 
engages in this bizarre practice

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of being totally. 
It's his claim is that he's 

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totally he's totally detached 
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makes him horrific to be a 
colleague of and terrible to be 

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around as a person. 
And yet he's very good at 

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sussing out. 
Why is that? 

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Because he just doesn't have the
impositions that most people 

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have, that he doesn't have the 
problem or the burden of trying 

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to be social and friendly. 
That's not his issue. 

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And it's worth knowing that when
you have that kind of weird 

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sense of being a guy who 
doesn't, who doesn't have to 

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obey social norms, you don't 
have to get a specific outcome 

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that makes somebody happy or do 
the right thing for them. 

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Then sure enough, you will be 
capable of more investigative 

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material. 
You will be capable of doing a 

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more detached observation. 
Now, there's a second piece to 

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this that I think that that 
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have to have a thing that's 
called empathy. 

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And we're waiting. 
Steve just popped on, then he 

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disappeared. 
So stand by with me, folks here.

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Empathy is the other piece of 
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Just because you can sit back 
and you can be detached and look

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at humanity as it falls out 
around you. 

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That's actually very good. 
But you also have to be able to 

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put yourself in the shoes of the
person that you are trying to 

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watch, that you're trying to 
learn about. 

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You have to be able to 
understand how people interact. 

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It's the biggest. 
Issue I have with what's being 

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claimed right now and the sort 
of pushes on social media 

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against guys like me and Steve 
friend and Steve Baker, even 

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Bill Shipley is in the same 
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The question is, are these guys 
just fed OPS That's that's 

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objectively insulting to my 
children, to my wife, to my 

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parents, to the family members 
and my friends who have 

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supported us and kind of looked 
in on what we're doing. 

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It's it's really offensive to 
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this, you know, discomfort that 
we've all engaged in and Steve 

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has gone to jail for it and he 
spent the day getting processed.

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You've got, you know, you've got
Garrett o'boyle was made 

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homeless and his kids were 
without jackets in the snow. 

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Like all of this stuff is not, 
is not fun to be a part of. 

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And yet you're going to make the
claim that because we don't 

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agree with you 100% that we're 
all an operation, that we're 

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involved in some sort of a Fed 
op That's terrible. 

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It's a terrible claim. 
I'm just adding Steve back in 

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here so we'll see if we can get 
him on. 

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All right, Mr. Baker, I think 
I've got you back. 

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Let me see if I can hear you. 
Check. 

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Check. 
Check, check 1-2. 

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All right, I'm. 
Going to have to boost your 

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audio, but we'll get it I. 
Don't know if we're any more 

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stable or. 
Not I don't know either. 

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I've got minimal audio coming 
from you. 

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How about now? 
I, I, I can hear you. 

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I don't know if we're any more 
stable at this point, but we'll 

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see what happens. 
I like that we do weird stuff, 

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like you and I have talked while
you were a man on the street 

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hiding somewhere in on the East 
Coast, just trying to avoid 

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things. 
You're a man moving at all 

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times. 
Why are you always in different 

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places? 
Out of curiosity, what do you 

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got going on? 
Yeah, well, part of it, but I do

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and yeah, the other thing is, is
that I even though I technically

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Lina, now that I'm working for 
the Blaze, it's that so I I kind

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of bounce around here in this in
this region for, you know, to to

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be close to the headquarters for
video work that we can obviously

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do appear on some of the host 
show commentary, that sort of 

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thing. 
But the, the, I guess the second

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most time other than than Dallas
is DC because that's where so 

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much of the work that I do, you 
know, where we're finding out 

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the things that we are looking. 
For you. 

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Know what I want to do, Steve? 
I'm going to put you on a phone 

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call because it'll be a cleaner 
audio and I think that's more 

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important, the video, even 
though I like seeing your 

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smiling face. 
Does that make sense to you? 

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I'm just going to put you on a 
on a phone call real quick if 

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that's OK. 
I'm going to. 

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Hang with us here. 
I'm going to get Steve on the 

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line here since that's not a 
very stable connection and we'll

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just do, we'll do audio only. 
I have a lot that we want to get

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into as far as this sort of 
method idea. 

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So let me dial him up. 
This is this is the joy of doing

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a live show. 
Sometimes connections are not 

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stable. 
Sometimes other things are going

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on, aren't they? 
So we will get that going right 

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here. 2 seconds. 
All right, Mr. Baker, can you 

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hear me? 
Give me give me two seconds to 

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connect it to the board and then
we'll bring it on. 

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Everybody should hear you in 
just a second here. 123 Rd. 

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caster pro and check, check, 
check. 

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Can you hear me? 
Can you hear me? 

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All right, I've got you. 
Beautiful. 

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All right, folks in the chat, 
give me a thumbs up. 

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Make sure that we can you guys 
can hear Steve as well. 

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He should be coming in loud and 
clear at this point. 

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Well, hopefully you've got an 
image of me up there in in one 

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of my Bowie attire outfits. 
In one of your, what in? 

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One of my David Bowie outfits. 
I don't. 

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I don't have any Bowie. 
I need a Bowie picture of you. 

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I need a default Bowie picture 
for all of our thumbnails. 

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All right, so let let's let's 
get deeper into this. 

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Like I said it, it cost you 
something. 

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Let's talk about the whole fed 
OP, the sort of discussion that 

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you are a problem specifically 
because you're not aligning with

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a narrative. 
We're getting the thumbs up and 

450
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,960
five by so people are hearing 
you better. 

451
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:46,000
Yeah, I'm, I'm look, it's, it's 
no more complicated than this. 

452
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,680
I am now a fed op, right as you 
are. 

453
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:55,320
I am controlled opposition. 
I am working for the deep state.

454
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:59,320
I mean, just just make oh, oh, 
my favorite one was a couple of 

455
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,960
weeks ago. 
I found out I was on George 

456
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,800
Soros payroll, which was, you 
know, it was a pleasure to find 

457
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,320
that out. 
The only disappointment is as 

458
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040
nobody has given me my offshore 
bank account number yet. 

459
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,680
So I know where to access all 
these millions that he's, you 

460
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,520
know, putting aside for me. 
So, but I mean, these, these, 

461
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,960
these are the, the kind of, you 
know, ridiculous charges that 

462
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:26,160
are leveled at you if you just 
don't agree 100% of the time. 

463
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,640
And, you know, in this 
particular situation, as he 

464
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,160
said, we're just going to touch 
on this week a little bit. 

465
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,480
And I don't I don't want to get 
into the specifics of it because

466
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,080
I don't want a pissing match 
with anybody, right? 

467
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,240
But the bottom line, the bottom 
line is, is somebody who I 

468
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:47,560
praised their work on Monday, 
we're talking about this week, 

469
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,480
Kyle. 
Yep, somebody for whom I gave 

470
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:56,480
public praise for their work on 
Monday got something really 

471
00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,520
wrong on Tuesday. 
OK. 

472
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:09,000
And I bit my lip, you know, I, I
was like, I'm sorry. 

473
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:10,560
I, I think I said it was this 
week. 

474
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,520
I think it was last week. 
So last week, last month, it was

475
00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:15,560
last Monday that I praised the 
work. 

476
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:18,120
It was Tuesday. 
The same person got something 

477
00:26:18,120 --> 00:26:22,320
wrong. 
And I bit my lip for a couple of

478
00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:26,400
days. 
I refused to say anything 

479
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:30,920
particularly publicly. 
But what I finally did is I 

480
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,560
finally, without naming names, I
just said, you know, the 

481
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:40,600
ridiculousness of this idea that
there was going to be a shootout

482
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:46,560
at the MAR a Lago corral 
between, you know, agents of the

483
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:51,800
FBI and agents of the Secret 
Service and that this was a 

484
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:56,040
planned bloodbath. 
That this was a quote, UN quote,

485
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,160
assassination attempt of our 
former president, etcetera, 

486
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,480
etcetera, etcetera. 
Hyperbole after hyperbole after 

487
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:07,440
hyperbole. 
And in it escalated to some of 

488
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:13,800
our major, you know, talk shows 
and punditry and mutual friends.

489
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,400
And I finally said, and this is 
the only thing I tweeted was, 

490
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:24,360
you know, that Trump was in New 
York during the MAR A Lago 

491
00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:27,440
raids. 
If that was an assassination 

492
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:34,320
attempt by the FBI, it was very 
poorly planned and they went to 

493
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,280
the wrong facility, you know, 
1000 miles or more away. 

494
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,320
And that's all I, that's all I 
said. 

495
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:49,680
And oh, man, the hell to pay for
making just the simplest, most 

496
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:57,440
logical point about how are you?
It's like, Kyle, you're telling 

497
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:01,960
me that neither the FBI or the 
Secret Service knew where Trump 

498
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,600
was? 
Well, it's, I mean, the 

499
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,240
documents say that they did. 
So it's hard for me to, it's 

500
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,600
hard for me to believe any of 
that since they told us in their

501
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,560
own words. 
Now the thing that bothers me, 

502
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,760
and I think it's the reason why 
so many people don't, documents 

503
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,040
are written for a specific 
audience. 

504
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:18,280
And I've covered this on this 
program. 

505
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:21,520
I think you know this 
intrinsically as well, that when

506
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:25,240
a, when an audience is supposed 
to know what things mean and 

507
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,560
another audience comes in and 
reads it, it's the equivalent of

508
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,560
sitting at a, at a, a table and 
you're at I know, in fact, I 

509
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,280
know this. 
I talk to you all the time when 

510
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,040
you were out in public and 
you're having a cigar, you're 

511
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:37,840
having a bourbon or something, 
and you'll do overhear of other 

512
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,760
people's conversation. 
How many things have you 

513
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:43,600
overheard in your years on the 
planet that you looked over and 

514
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,360
you were like, that was a really
strange thing. 

515
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:49,080
Why is that person laughing? 
Right. 

516
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,240
Inside jokes are meant for an 
inside audience. 

517
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,520
They're meant for a group of 
people who understand what is at

518
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,200
play. 
My wife and I have inside jokes.

519
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,000
I'm sure that you and friends do
as well. 

520
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,640
There are certain things that 
are only funny because you know 

521
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,480
context that is not available to
the average listener. 

522
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,800
And so when you hear these folks
looking at something without 

523
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,960
knowing what the background is, 
who haven't served hundreds of 

524
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,600
FBI search warrants, who haven't
been part of hundreds of 

525
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,320
briefings on operations, maybe 
in my case, thousands of 

526
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,760
operations in 23 of the FB is 56
AO Rs, then maybe it does sound 

527
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,720
crazy, which is why you have 
sounding boards. 

528
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,000
If I had a question about music 
and performing, I'd reach out to

529
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:26,760
my friends who are musicians, 
I'd reach out to you. 

530
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:28,800
I'd call my brother. 
I'd say, look, somebody said 

531
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,760
this thing about running a gig, 
like, what is what is this all 

532
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,320
about? 
And they would go, oh, that's 

533
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,320
common language for this. 
Someone said, we're going to do 

534
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,800
a hit on media. 
Like, are we, are we killing 

535
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,240
somebody? 
And they would go, no, a hit 

536
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,280
just means it's a a time for you
to show up and be on a program. 

537
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,440
I'd go, oh, OK, I didn't know. 
Right. 

538
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,680
And so the audience matters. 
The intended audience matters. 

539
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,720
I mean, it absolutely does. 
And you, you make an incredibly 

540
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,880
important point and we, and this
is getting us back to the method

541
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,440
here. 
If you are going to be called 

542
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:05,040
into doing something in an area 
that you're not the expert or 

543
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,520
you're not 100% familiar with or
you're, you know, maybe iffy 

544
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,320
around the edge, even around the
edges. 

545
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:16,320
The first thing that you do is 
you get somebody on the phone 

546
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:20,480
who is an expert in that area 
that you trust and you run the 

547
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,760
scenario by them and you get 
their input. 

548
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,400
And then maybe you do it again 
and then maybe you do it again 

549
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,640
three times. 
And this is one of the, I think 

550
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,680
one of the the most important 
keys to the method and This is 

551
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,000
why we had the blow up last week
is that somebody did not. 

552
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:42,640
There's one or two things that 
happened. 

553
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,080
I'm going to back up here and I 
wish I could see your face right

554
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,160
now because I, because that 
reaction I think is going to be 

555
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:56,080
important here is that I either 
when I am not sure of the 

556
00:30:56,080 --> 00:31:00,400
direction or that I'm going in 
or the method or the process 

557
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,680
that I should take. 
I get on the phone with somebody

558
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,560
who I trust who's better at this
than me, more experienced than I

559
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:15,040
am and I get their input. 
And the other time that somebody

560
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:20,720
might get on the phone to talk 
to somebody to get input are 

561
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:28,280
planning is if it's something 
you are in fact engaged in an 

562
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:32,320
operation with. 
When you when you have a some 

563
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,800
sort of momentary lack of of 
discretion when you are 

564
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,920
emotionally and personally 
involved in it, would that be 

565
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:42,520
accurate? 
Yeah, or, or, or there is a 

566
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,280
look. 
I'm I'm going to call a spade a 

567
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,440
spade, Kyle. 
I I I can't. 

568
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,600
I can't avoid everything that 
I'm trying to dance around right

569
00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:53,320
now. 
Yeah, I don't. 

570
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:59,800
But there there is. 
There are times when people on 

571
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:05,520
the right are involved in just 
as prolific a disinformation 

572
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:09,240
operation as we blame people on 
the left. 

573
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,440
There, I said it. 
So this just got put out. 

574
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,080
You shared with me this morning.
I want to kind of get to your 

575
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
piece that you wrote for Blaze 
'cause I think it's relevant and

576
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:20,520
it's also pretty important. 
Here's a little thing we're 

577
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:21,880
throwing on the screen here. 
So we're talking about this 

578
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,760
tweet from Julie Kelly, which 
just came out this morning. 

579
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,200
This was the latest shot, by the
way. 

580
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,680
I have not engaged with Julie 
Kelly since I think May 21st 

581
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,000
'cause I don't care. 
I interacted with her privately 

582
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200
and told her I really don't 
think that you should be staking

583
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,760
your career on this. 
And she said something pretty 

584
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,520
nasty. 
You're not going to win on this 

585
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,720
fight. 
So my answer was enjoy your 

586
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:43,480
clicks. 
That's the actual quote that I 

587
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,480
have and I I thanked her for 
convincing me to get off social 

588
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
media, which I've been off 
mostly for the last 10 days. 

589
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,520
My life is way better. 
I've been doing way better 

590
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:51,520
things. 
This is what she wrote. 

591
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:52,640
She said. 
If you're starting to suspect 

592
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,360
that former feds and out of the 
blue influencers with social 

593
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,880
media platforms. 
I feel like we're both being 

594
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,120
named here are are involved in 
an OP to make to make it look 

595
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,480
like pro mega supporters in any 
way support the legal warfare 

596
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,920
against Trump. 
Trust your instincts. 

597
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,720
We've seen this movie before, 
especially related to defending 

598
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,880
the FBI and DOJ. 
What what in the world. 

599
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,840
But we I also quoted your 
article where they where they 

600
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,080
noted some of the tweets that 
were coming from people on the 

601
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,600
right that are punching this 
this rhetoric up. 

602
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,440
This is Marjorie Taylor Green 
Republican Georgia tweeted the 

603
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Biden DOJ and FBI were planning 
to assassinate President Trump 

604
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,400
and gave the green light. 
Does everyone get it yet? 

605
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,320
A lot of different, you know, 
emotional, what do you call 

606
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,520
them? 
Exclamation points and question 

607
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,080
marks. 
And then you've got Paul Gosar, 

608
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,400
who generally speaking is pretty
balanced, I think from the stuff

609
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,320
I've seen. 
Republican out of Arizona saying

610
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,240
Biden ordered the hit, the hit 
on Trump at Mara Laga. 

611
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,200
End Quote. 
Let's talk about your piece 

612
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,200
here. 
I've got a, I'm going to throw 

613
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:47,600
it up on the screen here so 
people can see it. 

614
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:54,000
Oh, I don't know what that was. 
Sorry about that buddy. 

615
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120
That was really weird. 
I got I I have a couple of 

616
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,160
things I'm playing with 
apparently. 

617
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,640
So All right, so we've got you. 
We've got your article on the 

618
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:09,760
screen and people can see it. 
It says the blaze media. 

619
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,400
Logically laughable. 
Steve Baker puts the final nails

620
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,120
in the coffin of the so-called 
mirror Lago assassination 

621
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,960
narrative. 
This was written by Joseph 

622
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:18,159
McKinnon. 
Who? 

623
00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:21,280
Who is Joseph? 
He's, he's one of our news 

624
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,760
writers at The Blaze, OK. 
So tell me about what this story

625
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:26,920
is all about. 
And you quoted it the other day 

626
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:28,679
on Twitter. 
This is kind of your only piece 

627
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:30,000
that's like, stepped into this 
sphere. 

628
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,880
I mean, this is the method we 
just look at the facts, right? 

629
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,840
I mean, you had an entire thread
that shared documents. 

630
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:44,960
You know the things we look for.
Look and and people are mad at 

631
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:49,360
me by the hundreds of thousands 
right now because they say that 

632
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:52,440
I was attacking Julie. 
I never attacked Julie. 

633
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,960
I never mentioned her name. 
I never, I never linked to her. 

634
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,600
I didn't tag her in my Twitter 
thread. 

635
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,880
I did nothing of the sort. 
And in fact, I have not 

636
00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:08,040
responded to a single 
counterblow that she has thrown 

637
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,960
it at me in the last several 
days. 

638
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,680
Not once. 
Because as I said before, I 

639
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:17,600
don't want and I'm not looking 
for a public pissing match. 

640
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:27,720
But I sat on a truth, Kyle that 
I knew about for a solid week. 

641
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:33,520
I knew that what had been put 
out there last Tuesday was 1/2 

642
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:40,360
truth and the half truth as a 
result of that being allowed to 

643
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:46,120
marinate, fester and grow in 
the, you know, the, the 

644
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:50,480
Twittersphere and the, the 
blogosphere and the, you know, 

645
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160
the podcast, those sphere and 
all of this. 

646
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:55,120
And then it works. 
It's all the way all the way up 

647
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,800
to the, to the Fox News. 
And then you have Congress 

648
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:07,200
members saying that FBI planned 
an assassination attempt, that 

649
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,760
they were planning a hit. 
You just read the comments. 

650
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,440
This is how out of control it 
got. 

651
00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:17,320
And I'm sitting, I don't know if
I was the only other person in 

652
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:21,880
America that was holding on to 
this document that only half. 

653
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,840
Of it had been. 
Revealed, but I finally felt 

654
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:30,320
compelled to release it all. 
And I, you know, look. 

655
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:34,760
Part of part of the method is 
accountability. 

656
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:39,520
And I, I am accountable to 
somebody right now, I am 

657
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,560
accountable. 
I have 3 layers of editors I 

658
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:47,000
have to go through. 
And then if it's a really 

659
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,840
important story, like for 
instance, our work on David 

660
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:56,400
Lazarus and Officer Harry Dunn, 
when we bring a story like that 

661
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,680
to the public now we're going 
through a fourth layer. 

662
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,760
And that's our legal department.
Because, you know, you don't 

663
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:05,880
call a federal officer a 
perjurer and accuse him of 

664
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,120
committing perjury in court and 
in in front of Congress without 

665
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,160
it going through multiple layers
of accountability and review. 

666
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:20,440
And apparently when this was 
released last Tuesday, and it 

667
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:27,760
was only released, as I said, as
a half truth, there was no 

668
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,800
accountability there. 
There evidently were no layers 

669
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:36,160
of review or, or maybe it, maybe
it just it, it this was what 

670
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:39,240
whoever was involved on that 
side of the story wanted. 

671
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,720
They maybe they wanted this 
reaction from the public and 

672
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,640
from the punditry and from the 
Politico. 

673
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920
Maybe this is exactly what they 
wanted. 

674
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,840
Was this over reaction, this 
hyperbolic assassination 

675
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,720
attempt, bloodbath, etcetera. 
You know, FBI hit on the former 

676
00:37:56,720 --> 00:38:01,560
president kind of rhetoric that 
we saw out there for several 

677
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,960
days and I so I couldn't take it
anymore, Kyle. 

678
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:11,880
I had the document and I took 
the document to my editors and, 

679
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,040
and hey, look, we don't want, we
don't want these, these public 

680
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,960
fights. 
And, and it's, and it's not, it 

681
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:24,560
is not healthy for any of us to 
be taking friendly fire right 

682
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:25,920
now. 
We need to be united. 

683
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,720
I agree with all of that. 
I agree with all of that, but we

684
00:38:29,720 --> 00:38:35,960
have to be united in the truth, 
following the truth. 

685
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:38,400
Yeah. 
I, I I. 

686
00:38:38,720 --> 00:38:40,440
Libertarians are dealing with 
this right now too. 

687
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,560
And I know that you historically
have kind of associated maybe 

688
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,600
not with the party, but with the
ideals of libertarianism. 

689
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:47,360
And they're dealing with a real 
problem as well of they've got 

690
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,360
an issue of party over over 
principles. 

691
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,040
The principles that they have 
are not represented by the 

692
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,480
people that they just nominated 
for their ticket. 

693
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:59,120
So you've got this like armed 
and gay guy in Atlanta who is 

694
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,120
going to now represent the 
libertarian ticket, which has 

695
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,760
decided to go 100% clown show 
'cause that's what it is. 

696
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520
There's nothing libertarian 
about trying to, you know, 

697
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,920
spread the freedom of drag queen
story hour. 

698
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,040
There has to actually still be 
some fundamental freedoms. 

699
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:13,440
And that means you don't get to 
go after the kids. 

700
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,080
The libertarians are acting like
clowns. 

701
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,840
And so you have two choices. 
You can go to party all the 

702
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,840
time, or you can go to 
principle. 

703
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,600
Principle is closer to what 
truth is. 

704
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:25,040
So if you want to be united in 
truth, I'm on your team, but 

705
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:26,960
it's not because we have a team.
It's because we have a united 

706
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,480
goal. 
The goal is truth. 

707
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,240
I want to show the, the document
that you're referencing, this is

708
00:39:31,240 --> 00:39:34,400
the actual FD 888. 
So for everyone to understand 

709
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,840
what what happened and why this 
is so critical. 

710
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,080
The filings that Julie Kelly was
was pushing out and why she's 

711
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:44,240
gone after and impugn the honor 
of guys like me and Steve and 

712
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,520
Steve Friend and Garrett O'boyle
and Bill Shipley, people that 

713
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:48,840
really have a lot of skin in the
game. 

714
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,400
You know, Bill Shipley is 
representing J6 defendants for 

715
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,880
free. 
Steve's gone to to to prison or 

716
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,960
is is facing prison time over 
this, but he's gone to jail and 

717
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:57,720
and been held up by the 
marshals. 

718
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,600
You know, I lost my home. 
My family had to be, you know, 

719
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,520
homeless for six months and, and
staying with family and trying 

720
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,360
to figure out what the hell we 
were going to do for a living. 

721
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,480
Lost a career and benefits and 
all the other stuff. 

722
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,560
Garrett Boil, Homeless Steve, 
same story. 

723
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,560
Like we lost a lot of things for
this and then. 

724
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,000
The document that was that was 
quoted from was a partisan 

725
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,880
filing on behalf of Donald 
Trump's legal team, right? 

726
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:25,440
She was going with what, the 
motion to quash the evidence out

727
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,760
of the search warrant. 
That's what's really important. 

728
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,320
It was always going to be a 
slanted take because it's 

729
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:31,840
Trump's lawyers. 
They're supposed to do that, by 

730
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:32,560
the way. 
That's their job. 

731
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:37,200
Their job is to be to push the, 
the judge, that's the audience 

732
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,680
that was designed for. 
In the meantime, I've got the 

733
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,800
overall plan, the summary of the
plan up on the on the screen 

734
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960
here. 
So just real quickly, couple of 

735
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,320
little points. 
DOJ and FBI will contact the 

736
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,400
former POTUS's retained counsel 
and they named the counsel, but 

737
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:54,000
it's redacted person #18 So in 
other words, they were in 

738
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,880
contact with Trump's attorneys, 
notify him of a search warrant, 

739
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:59,440
request collaboration and 
assistance, and after a 

740
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,080
reasonable amount of time, 
they'll execute the search 

741
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:02,560
warrant. 
All this is a bad idea by the 

742
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,680
way. 
Would you agree? 

743
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
Like search warrants at at Mar a
Lago? 

744
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,640
I've been pointed out multiple 
times in the chat I'm 

745
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,320
mispronouncing it. 
At Mar a Lago is a terrible, 

746
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,840
shitty idea. 
It's dangerous and stupid, but 

747
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,240
not because it's physically. 
Dangerous. 

748
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:18,680
I opened my response. 
I opened my response when I 

749
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,720
presented not on the the other 
side of this story, but the 

750
00:41:21,720 --> 00:41:28,040
complete story when I did 
present that on X this week is I

751
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:31,160
opened it by saying it was 
indefensible, it was 

752
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,640
reprehensible. 
There's nothing right, good, 

753
00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:40,720
honorable, just probably even 
illegal about this raid that 

754
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:45,800
took place August the 8th of 
2022 at Mar a Lago. 

755
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:48,840
I opened it with that. 
I said please read this 

756
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,840
carefully. 
I opened with that statement. 

757
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:55,840
I closed with that statement and
then got hit by thousands of 

758
00:41:55,840 --> 00:42:01,320
Julie's supporters calling me a 
liar and calling me, you know, 

759
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,800
saying that I was justifying it,
that I was defending the FBIII 

760
00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,320
sometimes you just you, you, I 
mean, you can't win. 

761
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,040
Sometimes it's just not 
possible. 

762
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,760
And and I knew that going into 
it, which is why I was what I 

763
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,440
what I was telling you a moment 
ago is that I went to my editors

764
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,560
first and and we don't want, we 
don't want this kind of pissing 

765
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200
match. 
We don't want to be disunified. 

766
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:30,080
And, and I said OK, and I told 
him, I said, I'm throwing in the

767
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,120
towel. 
I'm not going to do it because I

768
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,600
was writing a, a, a longer story
on it. 

769
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:41,160
I already had 2500 words in the 
can written on this very 

770
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:50,120
exhaustive analysis of this 
story, the raid, the information

771
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:54,600
that Julie put out, my response,
the actual document. 

772
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,760
I had everything. 
I had 2500 words. 

773
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,560
I had interviewed people. 
I mean, I had, I had long 

774
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,720
written statements from other of
the suspendables and other 

775
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:10,320
people that, that are, you know,
we'll just call them former feds

776
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:15,360
as, as Julie is referring to 
them and, and as and as a result

777
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:19,600
of, of all of that, I contacted 
my editors and I said, no, I'm, 

778
00:43:19,720 --> 00:43:21,880
I'm just not going to do it. 
I'm throwing in the towel on 

779
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,200
this. 
I said, but here's the document.

780
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:28,240
Here's what it actually says. 
And this is what the American 

781
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:31,120
public doesn't know, and God 
bless them. 

782
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,800
To their credit, they said go 
for it. 

783
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:39,560
And I said, OK, well, if I'm 
going to do it, I'm not going to

784
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:43,960
do it in article form. 
I'm going straight to where it 

785
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:47,200
was released the first time. 
It needs to be. 

786
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,200
It was released on X Twitter, 
whatever you still call it, and 

787
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,520
that's where it needs to be 
countered. 

788
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,600
I'm going to go there first, I 
said, and then we can turn it 

789
00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,840
over to our news department. 
And then if I need to, I'll 

790
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,600
follow it up with an opinion 
piece. 

791
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:05,400
My editor agreed to that 
strategy and there we go. 

792
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,760
And that's why we're at the 
place that we're in right now 

793
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:11,600
today. 
There's some comments in our 

794
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,240
chat right now talking about how
the attorneys were were were 

795
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:19,280
shut off and said that they 
didn't have access to, they 

796
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,880
weren't allowed to be in the the
premises to be searched. 

797
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,200
Of course, that's always the 
case. 

798
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:28,560
Like folks you don't understand,
once you once you execute a plan

799
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,440
and the plan equals federal 
search warrant, everything is 

800
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:33,080
off. 
Like they take control of the 

801
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,800
scene. 
They being the the federal 

802
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:36,080
government. 
It happens in state law 

803
00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:38,200
enforcement too. 
They will lock down an area. 

804
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,760
Imagine if you got into a 
shooting in your car. 

805
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,200
They will not let you hang out 
in the car and go and look 

806
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,040
through stuff. 
That is now a scene that they 

807
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,120
are going to control until 
they're done doing it. 

808
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,760
This is all standard, which is 
why the minute you agree to do 

809
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,960
fill in the blank and fill in 
the blank is a bad idea. 

810
00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,080
It's not surprising that all the
things that normally happen, and

811
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,760
I said it the other day on the 
show, and I think it's most 

812
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,280
worth hearing if we're being 
truly honest. 

813
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:06,600
People should understand that 
the wildest thing is that 

814
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:09,720
there's been this argument that 
there is a 2 tier justice system

815
00:45:09,720 --> 00:45:13,680
in this country and the former 
president of the United States 

816
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:18,200
got treated the same way that 
PCP dealers and meth addicts get

817
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,400
treated. 
That you got treated the same 

818
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,240
way as PCP dealers or meth 
addicts, right? 

819
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:25,720
You got put in a cell with a guy
who was in there for 

820
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:27,440
methamphetamine production or 
distribution. 

821
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,080
Is that correct? 
That's correct. 

822
00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,320
Yeah, absolutely correct. 
This actually hammers home the 

823
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:37,240
point more more correctly. 
And we we talk about this, this 

824
00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:39,600
military concept, this law 
enforcement contest is called PT

825
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:40,920
bluff. 
Like put the bottom line up 

826
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,000
front. 
The bottom line up front is the 

827
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,200
DOJ will treat anybody that is 
not on their preferred candidate

828
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,320
list like a piece of garbage 
from someone who is doing 

829
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,240
garbage things all the way up to
somebody who is simply being a 

830
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,880
reporter or a guy who was the 
former president and is a 

831
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,640
political problem for the 
current regime. 

832
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,840
That's the big story. 
The fact that they had like a 

833
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:03,880
predictable package along with a
search warrant should never have

834
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:05,320
been very exciting. 
We can. 

835
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:07,880
It seems like they're just 
looking for a reason to go back 

836
00:46:07,880 --> 00:46:10,320
to this well. 
The well is infinite, it turns 

837
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,360
out, and it goes back to the 
point of the clip that I showed 

838
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,160
while you were offline. 
When you go looking for 

839
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,320
anything, there are many things 
and you're bound to find them. 

840
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,440
There are tons of juicy Nuggets 
that are involved in this story.

841
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,920
But the fact that the Trump 
legal team made an argument, you

842
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,640
know, to a judge, an audience of
one, that's not it to me. 

843
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:31,760
Only because I've been on these 
search warrants. 

844
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,800
I've been on any number of 
search warrants, and they 

845
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,520
treated Donald Trump's residence
like every other search warrant.

846
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:39,280
That's the big story. 
It's insane. 

847
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,280
It's truly crazy. 
Well, of course, obviously 

848
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,640
they're saying that this is not 
standard operating procedure 

849
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,720
because it was a president. 
Yes, you're right. 

850
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:50,040
So let me let me start over 
again. 

851
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:54,600
Let me put all of this as a 
preface before I say what I'm 

852
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:58,040
going to say. 
The raid itself was 

853
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:02,120
reprehensible, indefensible, 
probably illegal, should have 

854
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:04,680
never happened. 
Everybody get that? 

855
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,520
OK. 
Second, the day before this blew

856
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:14,680
up, I praised Julie Kelly's work
publicly. 

857
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:25,600
Then she put out 1/2 Truth. 
Kyle, you were exactly right 

858
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:32,000
when you say that Trump's 
defense team's job is to try and

859
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640
win first of all, in the court 
of public opinion. 

860
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:37,720
All right, I, I'm doing the same
thing in my case. 

861
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,520
Don't, don't, don't think for a 
second I don't understand that. 

862
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,480
I, I mean, I've been doing that 
for 2 1/2 years now. 

863
00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:52,240
I, I, I, I, I actually beat back
the feds when I was just a solo 

864
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:56,440
Blogger by myself. 
And this was in November of 21. 

865
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,840
I was told by an assistant US 
attorney that I was going to be 

866
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,040
charged within the week. 
They were going to charge me 

867
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,600
with Interstate racketeering 
because I had licensed my 

868
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,800
videos. 
I had a 20 year felony charge 

869
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,440
being levelled against me by the
Department of Justice. 

870
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:18,560
And we went, myself and my 
attorney, we went into massive 

871
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:23,880
media offenses and I started 
doing interviews. 

872
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,960
I was booked on the TV shows, 
podcasts, you know, radio 

873
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,960
programs, print interviews, 
magazine interviews. 

874
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:36,800
And, and they, I think they got 
spooked because nobody up to 

875
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:40,320
that point, the hundreds of 
people that I think, I think at 

876
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,000
that point in the year, we may 
have been up to around 800 

877
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,360
people have been arrested for 
January 6th offences at that 

878
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:49,160
point, mostly obviously 
nonviolent misdemeanors. 

879
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,520
And I think that because nobody 
had taken that tactic before, it

880
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:56,400
spooked them. 
They backed off. 

881
00:48:56,600 --> 00:49:00,080
We didn't hear from them for 
another 20 months until I got a 

882
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,280
grand jury subpoena in August of
last year. 

883
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,720
And then by then I'm now working
with the Blaze. 

884
00:49:05,720 --> 00:49:10,520
And so when they, when they told
me again in December, another 

885
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,840
call from the FBI, this time 
your client's got to turn 

886
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:16,320
himself in next week. 
That would client being me. 

887
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,440
We went into media offensive 
again. 

888
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,960
This time I had the bull on of 
the blaze behind me and they 

889
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,880
backed off again and said, OK, 
well, all right, so not next 

890
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:27,240
week, we'll do it sometime next 
year. 

891
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,040
And they had to retrench. 
They had to go. 

892
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:31,880
They had to go back to the Star 
Chamber, sit down at the table, 

893
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:34,920
consult with everybody and say, 
is this the PR hit we want to 

894
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,120
take? 
What do we do now? 

895
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,080
How do we handle this? 
And they just decided to go 

896
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:43,320
forward hit me with the four 
basic misdemeanors humiliate me 

897
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,480
on camera, but me and lake 
chains marched me before 

898
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:52,680
magistrate and we are and I I 
announced I told them I have 

899
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:57,320
told the Department of Justice. 
I have told the FBI, I have told

900
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:04,440
the court now I and we are going
to try this, my case in the 

901
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,840
court of public opinion before 
we ever get to trial, if it ever

902
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:12,320
goes that far. 
The key there is that that we 

903
00:50:12,320 --> 00:50:14,080
acknowledge that that's a useful
tactic. 

904
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,280
I've used it, you've used it. 
Everybody who understands that 

905
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:20,000
there is power in the media and 
public sentiment knows that you 

906
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,920
have to push certain things if 
you want to survive against 

907
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,720
something like the federal 
government, which is the biggest

908
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:27,840
monster in the room. 
It's the 800 LB gorilla and 

909
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:32,440
you're just like one chimp. 
So it's a big, it's a big animal

910
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,880
to push against and you use 
every tool you get, which you've

911
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,400
just accurately described your 
situation. 

912
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:38,960
I think that's useful. 
Carry on. 

913
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:46,520
So when you look at this 
situation from, you know, not 

914
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,720
only our experience, but the 
fact that it's my experience and

915
00:50:51,720 --> 00:50:53,920
you know, what the Trump legal 
team is doing. 

916
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:58,240
And by the way, without getting 
into too much detail, I'm 

917
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:06,480
actively involved with the Trump
legal team for their DC case. 

918
00:51:07,520 --> 00:51:14,320
I've been actively consulting 
for yes for months now. 

919
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:19,880
I have spent, I don't even know,
dozens upon dozens of hours in 

920
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:25,440
direct consultation with them on
developing that case. 

921
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,280
And why are they consulting with
me, little old me? 

922
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,720
It's because I have experience 
in the arena that they are brand

923
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:35,360
new in. 
I get phone. 

924
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:36,760
Yeah, let me just share this 
too. 

925
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,560
I get phone calls from former 
FBI agents who have been hired 

926
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:42,440
on his investigators for various
different organizations. 

927
00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:44,120
I don't need to name them for 
credibility. 

928
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:45,960
I'll just tell you that they're 
they're public and they're 

929
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,720
national and some of them are 
involved in high profile cases 

930
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:52,080
like you just talked about. 
Investigators reach out to me 

931
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,720
and Steve and Garrett, Steve 
friend, and they reach out to 

932
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:59,320
you because we have specific 
visibility knowledge at a 

933
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,800
specific amount of time, and we 
are the only people willing to 

934
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:05,120
talk about it. 
We're the only people willing to

935
00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:07,440
give insight and give 
connections and share with them 

936
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,480
names that they would never know
because those guys retired from 

937
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:13,680
the Bureau before any of this 
nonsense happened and we got 

938
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:16,360
thrown out on our heads. 
The FBI is a tight group. 

939
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,120
DOJ is a tight group. 
They all circle wagons and 

940
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,120
protect the brand and the name. 
You and me and the other 

941
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,960
suspendables are willing to 
throw bombs into that camp. 

942
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:29,800
And so we're a valuable resource
to those people that makes us 

943
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,640
not a fed op, that makes us 
whatever the opposite of that 

944
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,640
is. 
We are a fed threat and we 

945
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,600
continue to be a fed threat, 
which is why you ended up with a

946
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,360
freaking belly chain on standing
in front of a judge in Dallas. 

947
00:52:40,560 --> 00:52:43,200
That's right. 
But this has been and, and going

948
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,560
back to the preface again, the 
raid was reprehensible. 

949
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,200
It was indefensible. 
It was probably illegal. 

950
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:51,880
You notice I've said this three 
or four Times Now because I have

951
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,960
to say it every time because if 
I don't, then somebody's going 

952
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,280
to take one of my follow up 
statements. 

953
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,720
They're going to post it on 
Twitter and they're going to say

954
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:05,320
that I am a pro Biden, anti 
mega, you know, operative. 

955
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:09,360
And as I've been accused of 
several times in the last few 

956
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:16,000
days, all because I didn't 
contradict Julie's work. 

957
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:21,960
I showed the rest of it that she
had access to. 

958
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,680
And one thing I I did, I did 
make a technical error the other

959
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,840
day in response to somebody 
because I haven't responded to 

960
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,920
Julie at all, but I made a 
technical error and I said that 

961
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:41,280
she posted edited screenshots. 
Well, Oh no, I mean, she did. 

962
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,120
She responded to that and called
me a liar and she hasn't edited 

963
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,640
anything. 
And I said, I should have said 

964
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,160
cropped photos, cross it edited 
photos. 

965
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:54,160
So I, I, you know, when I, I 
come, I come from, you know, 

966
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,160
music and studio background and 
that sort of thing. 

967
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:59,760
So when we're, you know, editing
files, be they video files or 

968
00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:02,560
whatever, and you clip, you 
know, the, the, the, the front 

969
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,240
part off whatever, we, we will 
call it an edit. 

970
00:54:05,240 --> 00:54:07,960
We will call it a crop, we will 
call it, you know, whatever. 

971
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,880
It was just a terminology. 
And so people were saying that 

972
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,120
that she needs to sue me for 
that claim. 

973
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:17,680
I said fine, I can show you 
thousands and thousands and 

974
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:20,440
thousands of examples in the 
marketplace where that 

975
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,480
phraseology has been used as 
well. 

976
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:28,040
The bottom line is if she had 
full page documents of a 162025 

977
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,160
page document, whatever it ended
up being, and she took and 

978
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:37,920
screenshotted, cropped out that 
which would support the 

979
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:41,800
narrative of who the defense 
team. 

980
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:44,720
Which needed to be done because 
that's their job. 

981
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Which is fine. 
We just have to be honest about 

982
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,640
what it is and what it isn't. 
That's not God's objective 

983
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,400
truth. 
That is a partisan argument. 

984
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,720
We have an adversarial system. 
One side says this is the worst 

985
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:56,680
person ever and he should never 
be allowed to speak and he 

986
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:58,360
should be put in in jail with no
bond. 

987
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,760
And the other side says, dude, 
this is a former president, what

988
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:01,720
the hell is wrong with you 
people? 

989
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,640
Like he was. 
There was an assassination 

990
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,000
attempt by the federal 
government. 

991
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:06,720
They're arguing and they're 
trying to get to the middle of 

992
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,720
it where the judge is supposed 
to be the arbiter who goes Nah, 

993
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,120
I don't think it was an 
assassination attempt, but also 

994
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:12,480
give me a break. 
He's not going to run where he 

995
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:13,920
publishes his schedule for 
everybody. 

996
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,760
Let's just take a breath. 
That's the job of the judge. 

997
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,640
There's supposed to be a referee
between two warring adversarial 

998
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,080
clans. 
This is the uncropped picture, 

999
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:25,280
by the way, folks, if you want 
to see what it looks like, this 

1000
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:28,120
is like every FD 888 that I've 
ever seen. 

1001
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,880
This is what it looks like. 
That that this is the the 

1002
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:35,000
document that was created after 
Ruby Ridge because the FBI 

1003
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,160
killed two people. 
They ruled it justifiable it it 

1004
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:42,840
was a terrible instance. 
It was the biggest black eye on 

1005
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:44,720
the FBI that I remember as a 
kid. 

1006
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:47,280
And the more I learned about it,
I went like, Oh my God, Waco. 

1007
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,520
The search warrant there was 
probably illegal. 

1008
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,280
It was definitely terrible what 
they did at the branch Covidian 

1009
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,160
compound. 
That was one of the worst thing 

1010
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:55,760
that's ever happened in my 
lifetime. 

1011
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:01,160
And and Mar a Lago is very, very
similar in that it shows a 

1012
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,480
repeat. 
And I moved back to that 90s 

1013
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,880
Jack booted thug mentality that 
the government gets to do might 

1014
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:13,000
equals right I've had. 
Several people, I've had several

1015
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,640
people over the last few days 
who have pointed out some of 

1016
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:20,680
those exact scenarios where, you
know, federal agents, rage gone 

1017
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:24,240
bad, Waco, Ruby Ridge, etcetera,
etcetera. 

1018
00:56:24,760 --> 00:56:28,520
Other individuals who have been 
apparently assassinated by the 

1019
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,240
FBI in their homes. 
So they throw flash bangs in 

1020
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,440
into a guy, you know, in 
Tennessee with a, you know, 

1021
00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,000
sketchy background to see if 
he'll respond. 

1022
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:39,720
We still don't know if he did or
not because the FBI won't 

1023
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:41,360
release any documents or talk 
about it. 

1024
00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:42,720
But they shot him. 
They killed him. 

1025
00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:47,640
And and and so there's the 
people are, are rolling these 

1026
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:52,360
examples out at me, you know, on
Moss for the last few days. 

1027
00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:56,000
But there's a significant 
difference between all of those,

1028
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,000
even if we're talking about the 
worst of the worst being, you 

1029
00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:02,960
know, Waco was 80 something 
dead, including, you know, 

1030
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,520
dozens of children. 
The worst of the worst example, 

1031
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:12,520
none of those were blue on blue 
conflicts. 

1032
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:14,960
So that's what I want to talk to
you about right now. 

1033
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,000
And I want your perspective on. 
And what I want to hear about is

1034
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:23,040
because what's making me 
absolutely insane is this idea 

1035
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,680
that, as I said before, that 
there was going to be a shootout

1036
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:31,840
at the MAR A Lago Corral between
the FBI and the Because look, if

1037
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:39,880
the FBI, according to MTG and 
according to if they went in 

1038
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:43,400
specifically to take out the 
former president or to 

1039
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,720
assassinate him, that meant that
they were going to be going into

1040
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,960
open conflict warfare shootout 
with Secret Service agents. 

1041
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:59,560
Now, I don't know about you, 
Kyle, and I don't, I don't know 

1042
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:03,040
which you consider to be the 
best trained because it's 

1043
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:04,920
probably different. 
I don't know that either agency 

1044
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,000
is better trained than the 
others. 

1045
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,800
But there's certainly 
specialists in each of those 

1046
00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:12,000
groups that are, you know, very 
highly trained. 

1047
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:18,360
Probably some are less so. 
But the point being is, is the 

1048
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:22,080
last group of people that I want
to go get. 

1049
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,320
I don't want to get up at 6:00 
in the morning, kiss my wife, 

1050
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,960
you know, goodbye my children on
their heads before they, you 

1051
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:34,560
know, trundle off to grade 
school, knowing that as an FBI 

1052
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,400
agent, I'm going up against the 
Secret Service at 9:00 this 

1053
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:41,600
morning. 
No, that's what they that's what

1054
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:43,480
they do. 
They're they're they're security

1055
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,440
specialists, right? 
Like personal protection, 

1056
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:49,480
They're the gold standard. 
I don't want to do that. 

1057
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:53,840
That's that might be why they 
sent HRT, but I would argue the 

1058
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,040
reason they did it is because 
they were doing optics. 

1059
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,760
They're doing the same thing as 
putting you in a belly chain. 

1060
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,160
Was it because there's a real 
possibility that your hands were

1061
00:59:01,160 --> 00:59:02,760
going to come up with your 
handcuffs and you were going to 

1062
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,040
go grab somebody in the 
courtroom? 

1063
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:07,040
No, they wanted to show we are 
the boss here. 

1064
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,320
We're in charge, We're screwing 
with you. 

1065
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,040
Do something about it. 
You can't. 

1066
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,320
We're going to send our Tier 1 
tactical team to come here 

1067
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,680
because we're the boss. 
The process is the punishment. 

1068
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:23,000
And how dare you upset this 
narrative That's more likely to 

1069
00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,800
me is that it was about optics, 
that they thought it was going 

1070
00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:27,880
to be a good optic or they 
thought, let's give them the 

1071
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:29,720
benefit of the doubtless. 
The other possibility, equally 

1072
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:32,320
stupid by the way, is that we're
going to send our best guys in 

1073
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:34,200
so that we have the best muzzle 
discipline and trigger 

1074
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:35,880
discipline. 
The safest way to do this is 

1075
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:37,520
send the best trained people we 
have. 

1076
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:39,960
Even if that's the case, how 
dumb. 

1077
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:42,760
And the whole argument that I've
seen online that people are 

1078
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,720
crying about like they were 
coming in in plain clothes. 

1079
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:46,720
There's no FBI uniform. 
What I'm wearing right now, the 

1080
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,360
Kyle Serafin show shirt. 
This is a perfectly good shirt 

1081
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:50,960
to show up for an FBI search 
warrant. 

1082
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,680
You know why? 
Because there's no uniform. 

1083
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,440
They don't issue one. 
It doesn't get assigned. 

1084
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:56,280
There's no such thing as an FBI 
uniform. 

1085
00:59:56,280 --> 00:59:58,240
There never has been. 
They don't have one. 

1086
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,400
It used to be suits. 
And in some cases, I've served 

1087
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,120
search warrants and suits. 
That's a thing. 

1088
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400
I've showed up in a suit. 
It's rare. 

1089
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:08,960
Mostly people come in with this 
tactical attitude. 

1090
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,040
They generally wear, like almost
all the feds. 

1091
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,000
You have a bunch of people 
wearing khakis and people 

1092
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:14,520
wearing, you know, some various 
polo shirts. 

1093
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,120
But I almost always went in with
an operational medicine shirt 

1094
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:18,520
because I was a paramedic on the
back of it. 

1095
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:20,600
It's a team medic. 
That's what it said. 

1096
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,960
Because I was the team's medic 
should something happen. 

1097
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,480
So you know, I had that I had 
dive team paramedic on one of my

1098
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:28,280
shirts that I would wear 
sometimes I had multiple 

1099
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,920
different medical shirts. 
That's the closest to a uniform.

1100
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,160
And that what it was is some 
dude in my field office got it 

1101
01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:36,000
printed at like custom ink or 
whatever, you know, shirt 

1102
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,240
company they use. 
This is not a real thing. 

1103
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:40,960
The idea that there was going to
be a blue on blue conflict it 

1104
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,560
it's sort of dispelled by the 
fact that we see these documents

1105
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,760
that say they're going to call 
the attorney, they're going to 

1106
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:47,800
interface with Secret Service. 
They had this thing. 

1107
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,280
MMM. 
Filter team, right? 

1108
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,880
Yeah, man, that's Miami. 
That's the code for the Miami 

1109
01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:55,800
field office MALUS. 
Secret Service representatives 

1110
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:58,360
will be interfaced with and they
will be talking to the case 

1111
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,120
team. 
The execution required the 

1112
01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,520
coordination, not the 
opposition, but the coordination

1113
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,880
with US Secret Service and may 
include coordinates, coordinated

1114
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:11,600
searches with Mar A Lago or Mar 
A Lago Guest Services to ensure 

1115
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:14,080
a fulsome understanding of the 
spaces that are going to be 

1116
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:16,040
occupied. 
The key is on a search warrant, 

1117
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,320
folks, there's only certain 
spaces you can you can go into 

1118
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:21,520
and it has to be something that 
is reasonably expected for the 

1119
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,640
person involved to have access 
to. 

1120
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:25,760
So if it's a guest quarters that
Donald Trump could never get 

1121
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:27,640
into, they shouldn't be 
searching those spaces. 

1122
01:01:27,840 --> 01:01:29,160
That's what they were trying to 
ascertain. 

1123
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,120
All of this stuff is terrible. 
It's all the dumbest thing in 

1124
01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,200
the world. 
But it is what happens when you 

1125
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:37,160
execute like all the things that
come from executing the plan of 

1126
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
equals, you know, search warrant
equals all this dumb stuff. 

1127
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:42,760
It equals deadly force policy. 
It equals coordination. 

1128
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:46,360
It equals a description of the 
places it it equals a an 

1129
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,720
affidavit saying. 
And the real crazy is that a 

1130
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,800
judge signed off on it, a guy 
named Bruce Reinhart, who I have

1131
01:01:51,800 --> 01:01:54,080
not seen in the news in the last
year and a half or two years. 

1132
01:01:55,800 --> 01:01:58,000
Yeah. 
And, and obviously that's a key 

1133
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,640
component because again, a judge
signed off on it and shouldn't 

1134
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,400
have. 
But as soon as he does it 

1135
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:11,600
strips, you know, the trigger of
all of these processes that have

1136
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:15,640
to be followed as and people you
know, if you say if I say it, 

1137
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:17,040
they're going to they're going 
to jump on me. 

1138
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,760
I'm going to say it SOP standard
operating procedure and they're 

1139
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,720
going to jump online right now 
and in the comments. 

1140
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,480
This is not a standard operator.
It's never been done before. 

1141
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,760
A former president of the United
States has never been rated had 

1142
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,440
his home raided before. 
Yes, you're right. 

1143
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,720
Correct. 
Yes, and it's and it's 

1144
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,680
reprehensible, it's indefensible
and it's probably illegal. 

1145
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,000
I said it again and I'm going to
continue to say it. 

1146
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:42,160
And you know, I, I, I have to 
lead with. 

1147
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:43,440
It and I have to close with 
that. 

1148
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:47,080
You know those that that 
statement every single time? 

1149
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:54,840
Yes, a raid on a former 
president is unprecedented, but 

1150
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,880
once the judge signs the 
warrant, then certain things 

1151
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
happen and the dominoes begin to
fall. 

1152
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,920
And one of those dominoes is the
feeling out the filling out of 

1153
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:09,360
the FD 888. 
Do you have Do you have a 

1154
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:12,960
screenshot of the three O 2? 
Do you have that one? 

1155
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,400
I don't, but I'm sure I can grab
it because I have your thread up

1156
01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,520
here. 
The the thing that blows my mind

1157
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,000
in some ways too, is that all 
the tactical teams and all the 

1158
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,240
arrest teams that everybody 
look, I said this is my first 

1159
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:26,920
interview with Dan Bongino. 
But the question is, who agreed 

1160
01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,520
to this stuff? 
Who said that this was going to 

1161
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:31,400
be OK? 
Who said, you know what? 

1162
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,600
I'm I'm good with doing the 
thing that did you just ask of 

1163
01:03:35,600 --> 01:03:37,080
me. 
I'm not going to do because 

1164
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,880
there are other examples and 
specifically Steve friend is one

1165
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,720
of them. 
My buddy Steve got up and said 

1166
01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:47,720
you want me to do a swat hit on 
a guy that said he would turn 

1167
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:51,040
himself in whenever you want. 
I don't get it. 

1168
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,600
I'm not doing that. 
I think I just pulled the three 

1169
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,880
O 2 up right here. 
This is document is restricted 

1170
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,240
to case participants, which 
means it was restricted document

1171
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:59,880
to only those who work directly 
on the case. 

1172
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:01,560
That's going to be a very small 
number of people out of 

1173
01:04:01,560 --> 01:04:03,040
Washington field. 
Not everybody could read it. 

1174
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,600
It tells you that there's a 
search warrant. 

1175
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:07,240
It tells you the name of the 
serial where that was sitting 

1176
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:10,480
was issued in the in District 
Court in the Southern District 

1177
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,040
of Florida on August the 5th. 
So they basically had between 

1178
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:15,640
August the 5th and August the 
8th, the plan, all this stuff, 

1179
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,320
which is what all the documents 
seem to show. 

1180
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,240
And you're looking at that 
little square right there that 

1181
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:22,920
says prior, right prior to the 
FB is entry team. 

1182
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,200
Yeah, before you, before you 
read it. 

1183
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:30,880
I, I, I can actually see you 
online right now, amazingly so I

1184
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:32,280
know what I know what you have 
up now. 

1185
01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:38,400
But the the point being is, is 
that is that not only do we know

1186
01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:43,040
beyond, you know, any doubt that
there was prior planning, we 

1187
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:49,320
knew and we know now that Secret
Service had been notified by the

1188
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:51,120
FBI. 
And I don't know, you know, 

1189
01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:54,080
look, I don't know what the 
nature of the conversation was, 

1190
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,280
but you, you, you know, you know
better than I do or, or 

1191
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,160
certainly would have much better
insight. 

1192
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,840
Somebody, you know, I, I don't 
know if it was a special agent 

1193
01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:07,040
in charge or somebody higher up.
Somebody had to contact the, you

1194
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:10,080
know, the supervisor at Secret 
Service at Mar a Lago and go, 

1195
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:13,320
hey, man, I got a shitty thing I
got to do. 

1196
01:05:13,520 --> 01:05:15,880
That's exactly what that 
conversation had to sound like, 

1197
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,920
right? 
Unless they were just insane, 

1198
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,080
unless they were totally insane.
And I, I don't believe that 

1199
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,320
there's enough insane people. 
It would have had to gone 

1200
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:23,960
something like this. 
You're exactly right. 

1201
01:05:25,040 --> 01:05:27,720
You're not going to effing 
believe this, but I've got a 

1202
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,400
search warrant for the, for the 
area that you guys protect. 

1203
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:32,400
We've got to do some 
coordination here. 

1204
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,200
This is going to be really dumb.
How do we, how do we make this 

1205
01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:36,600
work out? 
Who's who's your, you know, the 

1206
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:39,800
POC you guys want to nominate 
for things going forward and 

1207
01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:41,480
let's, let's set up a 
deconfliction chain. 

1208
01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:42,920
Here's something a lot of people
don't know. 

1209
01:05:43,560 --> 01:05:45,000
We have a thing called Blue 
force trackers. 

1210
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:45,920
Do you know what those are, 
Steve? 

1211
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:48,880
No. 
Blue Force Trackers is a 

1212
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:53,200
military technology. 
It is AGPS coordinate that will 

1213
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:57,040
or AGPS device that will 
illuminate any number of people 

1214
01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,360
specific to down to an 
individual or even a just a team

1215
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,640
movement or a vehicle. 
And we would have blue Force 

1216
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,640
tracking technology that the the
program is actually called ATAC.

1217
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,240
It comes on the Android program,
but it's a tactical awareness 

1218
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:11,360
kit and you can activate it and 
it was required activation. 

1219
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,840
Guess what? 
For all SWOT operations, every 

1220
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:16,800
single at least vehicle unit and
every team leader had to have an

1221
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,720
activation of this blue force 
tracking program that shows you 

1222
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,920
up on a GPS position on a, on a 
global map. 

1223
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,560
And we have tiers. 
We have ways to open up what 

1224
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:29,240
they call sockets to US Secret 
Service and to DEA and even the 

1225
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,320
DoD assets if we're working 
overseas. 

1226
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:35,560
So we can show our physical real
world up to the date position in

1227
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:40,080
real time with other federal 
assets and other federal 

1228
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,320
departments and including up to,
like I said, DEDDOD and other 

1229
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:45,520
assets overseas. 
If we accidentally opened up the

1230
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:48,040
stuff for like big events, we'd 
sometimes see people that had 

1231
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:50,640
their their channel open. 
That would be like in really 

1232
01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:52,760
weird places in the Middle East 
and stuff like that, right? 

1233
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,600
Like we would see they were 
like, oh, there's like a DoD guy

1234
01:06:55,600 --> 01:06:58,840
like that's doing something 
shady with DEA that's like in, 

1235
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:00,560
you know, outside the border of 
Iran or he's in Syria. 

1236
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:02,640
Like what the hell is that? 
So you'd see all this kind of 

1237
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:05,160
stuff. 
So we have the ability to do 

1238
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:06,720
deconfliction. 
And the reason why is because 

1239
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:09,440
I've worked with, yeah, some 
people are calling it's like 

1240
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:14,240
it's IFF it's it's identify 
friend foe is the way the 

1241
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:16,680
military often terms it. 
And so you would have different 

1242
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,240
colors that would be different 
schemes. 

1243
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:21,200
And you have deconfliction that 
happens on these major national 

1244
01:07:21,200 --> 01:07:22,320
events. 
By the way, that's what should 

1245
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,360
have happened on January 6th. 
Just you and me talking here. 

1246
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,480
That should have been activated 
under this protocol that's known

1247
01:07:29,720 --> 01:07:34,400
as the, as the NSSE. 
And when you're doing NSSES, 

1248
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:36,440
which means national special 
security events, and you're 

1249
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,520
doing so in places like 
Washington, DC for a big 

1250
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,520
national event, and all the guys
are out there. 

1251
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:44,040
So ATF and DOE, the Department 
of Energy is out doing their 

1252
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,240
thing. 
We all activate this Blue Force 

1253
01:07:46,240 --> 01:07:48,960
tracking program and we all show
where we are in real time so 

1254
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,560
that if people are looking at 
it, they can say, listen, 

1255
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:57,360
FBIFBI, you know, unit #7 
whatever it is, Hurricane team 

1256
01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:01,400
three, you are in close 
proximity to interview team 5, 

1257
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,480
you know, make contact if need 
be or whatever it is. 

1258
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,440
If you're looking for them, they
would actually do link UPS that 

1259
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,480
way. 
And Secret Service has their own

1260
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:10,480
channels and we had our own 
channels and we could easily 

1261
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,400
cross those, those, those 
streams and, and mitigate the, 

1262
01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,479
the potential for Blue on Blue. 
Like there's a lot of different 

1263
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,080
tools that are out there. 
And I don't know how long 

1264
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,479
they've been there, but they've 
been there for a long time. 

1265
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,399
These are open source tools. 
By the way, I'm not giving away 

1266
01:08:21,399 --> 01:08:24,040
secrets here, folks. 
You can go down a TAC right now 

1267
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:25,960
if you want to. 
If you have an Android, you can 

1268
01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:28,720
go get a TAC. 
It's ATAK. 

1269
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,600
That's how you get it. 
So this stuff exists and it was 

1270
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:35,040
always out there and it was very
important because and and Secret

1271
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:36,240
Service does something that's 
kind of cool. 

1272
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:39,040
They put a specific type of tape
on there and it's very, it 

1273
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,359
changes, but they put a tape on 
the muzzle, their weapon. 

1274
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:43,800
So if they identify that a 
muzzle is pointed out in the 

1275
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,359
world and you don't see the 
person that's holding it and 

1276
01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:49,880
they're in plain clothes, but 
they have the right tape, then 

1277
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,760
that's a friend. 
So it's another fail safe. 

1278
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,120
So you can see it. 
It's like, OK, how do you 

1279
01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,240
identify that that's a good guy 
gun versus a bad guy gun? 

1280
01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:59,600
You put tape, reflective tape on
it so that when it pops up, the 

1281
01:08:59,640 --> 01:09:02,720
only thing you see before that 
muzzle is actually the the 

1282
01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:07,240
appropriate type of tape. 
They do this in in competitive 

1283
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:08,720
handgun competitions all the 
time too. 

1284
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,800
So if anybody's ever seen that, 
you know, it's reflective tape 

1285
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,200
and has a specific pattern for 
the day and that equals a 

1286
01:09:14,200 --> 01:09:16,680
cleared weapon. 
In any case, there's a lot of 

1287
01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:18,760
different tools. 
Blue on blue I don't think was 

1288
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,120
ever really a real thing, and 
This is why we're showing this 

1289
01:09:21,120 --> 01:09:23,800
document here, which we alluded.
You want me to read it real? 

1290
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:27,160
Quick, Yeah, yeah, go go through
the red, Red Square there. 

1291
01:09:27,200 --> 01:09:29,279
OK, Red Square here. 
This is the FBI3O2. 

1292
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:31,200
This is going to be the 
operational 3O2, which is the 

1293
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,640
document of record that shows 
what was going on. 

1294
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:37,840
And it says prior to the FBI's 
team entry onto the Mal 

1295
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:40,960
premises, the FBI leadership 
informed and coordinated with 

1296
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,160
local US Secret Service 
leadership, local US Secret 

1297
01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,200
Service facilitated entry onto 
the premises. 

1298
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,560
I'm going to read that again. 
Local full Secret Service 

1299
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,720
facilitated entry onto the 
premises, provided escort and 

1300
01:09:51,720 --> 01:09:55,080
access to various locations 
within, and posted US Secret 

1301
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:58,040
Service personnel in locations 
where the FBI team conducted 

1302
01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,840
searches. 
Are we pretty clear on what that

1303
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,520
says? 
You want to give it another 

1304
01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,000
whirl? 
Look, I don't, I don't even 

1305
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:13,480
know, OK? 
I'm I'm catching my breath, but 

1306
01:10:13,480 --> 01:10:17,360
more importantly, I'm biting my 
tongue again. 

1307
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:29,360
With that pause, I will now say 
there is only one reason why 

1308
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:41,480
Julie Kelly withheld that page 
from her explosive revealed last

1309
01:10:41,480 --> 01:10:46,560
Tuesday is because that 
paragraph that you just read 

1310
01:10:48,120 --> 01:10:55,960
took down the entire 
artificially induced rage that 

1311
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:59,480
swept through right wing 
punditry last week. 

1312
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:04,880
That paragraph takes it down and
that's why it was withheld. 

1313
01:11:06,240 --> 01:11:09,120
That's not a good sensation. 
That's not a good feeling really

1314
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,960
to think about that. 
I would people have been 

1315
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:14,880
recommending the chat, hey, 
bring Julie Kelly on so she can 

1316
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:16,880
talk about it herself like I'm 
happy to. 

1317
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,520
The problem with Julie Kelly is 
I reached out to her and I told 

1318
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,760
her what I thought and she 
basically told me piss off. 

1319
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,280
And she did the same thing to 
Bill Shipley and she did the 

1320
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,240
same thing to Steve Friend. 
It's not that we care how many 

1321
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,200
clicks she gets. 
Do you care about how many 

1322
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:32,960
clicks Julie Kelly gets? 
Does that affect you at all? 

1323
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,640
Is this a 0 sum game? 
It doesn't affect my life in the

1324
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:39,320
least. 
I think that her initial tweet 

1325
01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:44,480
on this head, over 10 million 
views, you know what the impact 

1326
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:47,520
on me was for that? 
None. 

1327
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,640
None. 
Zero, yeah, doesn't, doesn't 

1328
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:51,560
matter. 
The problem is, is that we 

1329
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:55,360
don't, we only are interested in
saying the things that are true,

1330
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:57,000
which goes back to the point of 
the method. 

1331
01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:01,840
If you're emotionally interested
in the outcome of anything in 

1332
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:06,080
investigation, then you are 
going to come up with, you're 

1333
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,800
going to come up with tainted 
takes at the very least. 

1334
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:11,240
That's the nicest way of saying 
that. 

1335
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,280
But you're compromised because 
you've compromised yourself. 

1336
01:12:14,480 --> 01:12:16,840
Which is why Sherlock Holmes is 
the greatest detective of all 

1337
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,200
time, because he's a weirdo, 
because he doesn't care what 

1338
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:22,840
people think about him. 
And that is exactly what you 

1339
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:26,080
started off by saying. 
He If you don't give a shit, if 

1340
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:30,480
you only care about the things 
that are accurate, then you can 

1341
01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,200
do things that nobody else is 
willing to do. 

1342
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:36,040
And what was the first thing 
that I ever told you, probably 

1343
01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:39,680
the first time that you ever had
me on your podcast, I said to 

1344
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:43,760
you that with regards to my 
January 6th investigations, I'm 

1345
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,960
talking about the big picture. 
I'm not, I'm not talking about 

1346
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,760
the the individual 
investigations about events or 

1347
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,440
circumstances or individual 
characters that I've 

1348
01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:57,480
investigated, but I have an 
ongoing review and investigation

1349
01:12:57,480 --> 01:13:01,280
to the much larger picture. 
And I said to you, and I've said

1350
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:05,760
it to dozens of other people and
other introduced, I don't care 

1351
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:09,400
where this leads. 
I don't care if this ultimately 

1352
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:13,640
takes me to Pelosi's desk. 
I don't care if it takes me to 

1353
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,720
General Miley's desk. 
I don't care if it takes me to 

1354
01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:21,480
Donald Trump's desk. 
I don't care do. 

1355
01:13:21,760 --> 01:13:23,720
You know what I think is the 
weirdest part of all of it? 

1356
01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:28,640
This is my ongoing my and I, we 
haven't bounced this idea yet, 

1357
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,160
but I think that there's 
something very strange and it 

1358
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:34,120
goes back to my continued 
concern that this, that January 

1359
01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:37,720
6th wasn't called an NSSE. 
The only people that can declare

1360
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:45,640
NSSE is the US Secret Service. 
Did you know that? 

1361
01:13:45,640 --> 01:13:48,960
How? 
About that I did not know that, 

1362
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:51,280
but. 
Put that into your calculus as 

1363
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:53,920
you continue to look at things. 
The people that decide 'cause 

1364
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,360
you don't need the National 
Guard to secure Washington DC, 

1365
01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:57,840
they don't need it. 
They never have. 

1366
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,200
It's never been required. 
Washington DC gets overwhelming 

1367
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:03,600
both protests. 
They get overwhelming amounts of

1368
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:07,400
people that come in either for 
scheduled or non scheduled 

1369
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,120
protests. 
They invade the National Mall on

1370
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,800
a regular basis. 
This stuff goes on and you 

1371
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,880
declare this. 
There are some that are always 

1372
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:17,160
declared, and the ones that are 
always declared are like State 

1373
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:18,480
of the Union, That's an annual 
thing. 

1374
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,520
Every single presidential 
inauguration is all the 4th of 

1375
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,200
July parades are and other big 
kind of events that happened 

1376
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:25,600
where there's going to be just a
ton of people. 

1377
01:14:25,800 --> 01:14:27,320
They bring out the entire 
cavalry. 

1378
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:31,280
There's two reasons why, just so
you know, NSSEA, National 

1379
01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,760
National Special Security Event,
It is defined by statute and 

1380
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,560
law. 
You guys can go out there and 

1381
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:41,360
look it up yourself. 
You can look up NSSE and what 

1382
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,080
you'll find is that the United 
States Secret Service under DHS 

1383
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,800
is the only group that can 
declare it and they are the 

1384
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,480
point contact for all 
coordination in DCI. 

1385
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,280
Don't know why. 
Honestly, I don't know why 

1386
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:53,160
Secret Service is the one. 
Maybe because most of them have 

1387
01:14:53,160 --> 01:14:55,360
to do with the president and and
and a big protectee. 

1388
01:14:56,080 --> 01:15:01,000
But Even so the fact is, is that
Secret Service and the director 

1389
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:02,560
of the Secret Service who I 
don't know the name of the 

1390
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:04,800
Secret Service director on 
January 6th and I don't know 

1391
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,840
what was going on there. 
Was there an interim where they 

1392
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,120
already transitioning out? 
Who made the call that this 

1393
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:12,160
wasn't going to be an NSSE? 
And why has that not been 

1394
01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,920
adjudicated over and over again?
It's the only thing that I've 

1395
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:18,760
always honed in on as this is 
abnormal. 

1396
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,400
And it was abnormal. 
I should not have been able to 

1397
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:22,640
take leave on the day that I 
did. 

1398
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:24,320
I already had a contingency set 
up. 

1399
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,800
For whatever it's worth. 
I set up a contingency saying I 

1400
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,480
it's 'cause I paid for some 
training to go and do some 

1401
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:32,320
firearms training on that day. 
And I was like, if I can't come 

1402
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:34,600
in, can I meet you guys for a 
different class? 

1403
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:37,800
And they said, yeah, absolutely.
And I said, OK, great, because I

1404
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,560
may get called into work because
in theory, there's going to be a

1405
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,520
big protest. 
And if there's a big protest in 

1406
01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:45,280
DC, my surveillance team would 
be on standby. 

1407
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,280
We would go sit over at the 
National Park Service, Park 

1408
01:15:48,280 --> 01:15:51,240
Police headquarters. 
It's called the Eagle's Nest. 

1409
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,120
It's where their their 
helicopter lives. 

1410
01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:58,360
We would all hang out there in 
our cars and do nothing and be 

1411
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,440
ready for tasking. 
And then they would see us on 

1412
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:03,560
the Blue Force Tracker and they 
would say, OK, whatever, SOG 

1413
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,120
blue, SOG red, SOG green, we 
need you to go and step in and 

1414
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,600
follow this individual. 
Look for this dot on the screen.

1415
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,800
Follow it to that thing they're 
going to give you eyes on and 

1416
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,800
point you to somebody and you're
going to start following them 

1417
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,840
either on foot or vehicle. 
And that's what we would do. 

1418
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:19,320
And we did that a lot for people
that did weird stuff. 

1419
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:20,440
And, like, we're talking about 
weird stuff. 

1420
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,480
Like, people would come in to an
event with, like, multiple 

1421
01:16:22,480 --> 01:16:24,480
backpacks, and then they would, 
like, leave one somewhere and 

1422
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:26,200
be, like, full of tissue or 
something. 

1423
01:16:26,320 --> 01:16:28,240
Like, just weird shit where you 
go. 

1424
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,880
That's not normal. 
So we would follow them just to 

1425
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,240
make sure that they weren't 
doing something that would 

1426
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,800
invade people's ability to, you 
know, exercise their First 

1427
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:37,400
Amendment. 
I don't know why Secret Service 

1428
01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:39,840
didn't declare it on that day, 
but I would love to know more. 

1429
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:41,920
And I don't have the ability to 
really do a research on that. 

1430
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,720
Like, it's not research. 
This is a governmental 

1431
01:16:43,720 --> 01:16:45,000
investigation. 
That's what I've asked 

1432
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:46,080
weaponization to look into. 
Yeah. 

1433
01:16:47,680 --> 01:16:51,080
Yeah, well, and, and if we don't
get the full support from 

1434
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:53,520
Congress on these 
investigations, none of us are 

1435
01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:56,320
ever going to get to the bottom 
of it because as you said, we, 

1436
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:04,280
you know, unless I had Sherlock 
Holmes ability or I had the the 

1437
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:10,280
superpower of the Invisible Man,
I'm not going to be able to get 

1438
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:15,120
behind the closed doors where 
these documents and this digital

1439
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,480
information exist to be able to 
pull it up. 

1440
01:17:17,480 --> 01:17:21,040
And ultimately, if Congress does
not help us, we're not going to 

1441
01:17:21,040 --> 01:17:25,760
solve this case. 
We can get really close. 

1442
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:29,320
We can develop very powerful and
believable theories. 

1443
01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:32,480
Yeah. 
Like, for instance, with in line

1444
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:35,120
with what you're saying, and we 
may have touched on this to some

1445
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:38,640
extent in the past, but it's 
worth reiterating for whoever's 

1446
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:43,800
listening today is that we now 
know beyond any, you know, doubt

1447
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:49,280
that first of all, the DoD 
wanted to have canceled every 

1448
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:52,200
First Amendment protest permit 
to that day. 

1449
01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:56,000
They wanted them all canceled. 
And it wasn't just the six 

1450
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,240
permits at the Capitol itself 
that had been issued by the 

1451
01:17:59,240 --> 01:18:03,200
Capitol Police. 
There were 82 First Amendment 

1452
01:18:03,200 --> 01:18:07,720
protest permits issued on 
January 6th across all the 

1453
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,200
agencies, Park Police, NPDUSCP, 
etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 

1454
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,800
And they wanted DoD wanted to 
cancel all of them. 

1455
01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:19,000
Yeah, and what's weird is most 
of the time these these protests

1456
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,200
just happen. 
Like if you're on the political 

1457
01:18:20,200 --> 01:18:22,000
left, you don't need a permit. 
You show up and shut down 

1458
01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:25,240
streets and everybody just goes,
'cause I just accommodate it. 

1459
01:18:25,760 --> 01:18:28,280
Yeah, yeah. 
If you're on the right and you 

1460
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:30,360
do it the correct way, they 
wanted to cancel it. 

1461
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:35,840
Yeah, yeah. 
And so then we also now know 

1462
01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:41,360
that every single tactical unit 
of every three letter agency was

1463
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:47,880
pre positioned there. 
It was not until after the 

1464
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,920
breach of the capital that they 
started showing up. 

1465
01:18:51,440 --> 01:19:00,480
I was the first one to capture 
ATF tactical units on my camera 

1466
01:19:01,160 --> 01:19:04,520
within three or four minutes 
after Ashley Babbitt was shot. 

1467
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:08,520
Then all of a sudden they popped
up out of nowhere. 

1468
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:13,320
ATF did not get there in 3 
minutes. 

1469
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,840
Kyle from across town. 
And ATF is not the people that 

1470
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:23,320
should respond. 
No, I being is. 

1471
01:19:23,320 --> 01:19:27,560
I, I know that the, the mutual 
aid SWAT teams for all the 

1472
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:30,120
surrounding counties, many of 
them were training with me on 

1473
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,120
January 6th, 2021. 
Many of their members were 

1474
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:35,200
training with me. 
They were not on a standby 

1475
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:36,400
status. 
They were hanging out. 

1476
01:19:36,560 --> 01:19:38,920
And those are the first people 
that you would normally go to. 

1477
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:41,360
You would go to FBI SWAT, which 
is based on Washington Field, 

1478
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:43,680
but they're not always at 
Washington Field, but you can 

1479
01:19:43,680 --> 01:19:46,520
grab enough guys to run down to 
the team room and have a A-Team 

1480
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,640
response. 
The, the office I used to work 

1481
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:52,880
out of in 2021 has something 
like 50 or 60 guys on the SWAT 

1482
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,800
team and there's always going to
be a dozen or two dozen of them 

1483
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,800
hanging out in the office. 
Most of them were counter 

1484
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,120
terrorism or 
counterintelligence. 

1485
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,320
They're sitting in a skiff. 
And they can run down, they can 

1486
01:20:03,320 --> 01:20:05,240
change out for their team room 
locker. 

1487
01:20:05,240 --> 01:20:06,680
Or, you know, they don't have a 
team room locker, but they have 

1488
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,360
a team room that has all kinds 
of like, you know, uniform 

1489
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:09,480
stuff, even if they didn't have 
their stuff. 

1490
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:10,760
But they all have it in their 
vehicles. 

1491
01:20:10,920 --> 01:20:14,120
They can run, change out, get a 
quick briefing, mount up and 

1492
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:16,680
drive over, which is what they 
did, those people. 

1493
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:21,240
But that takes you 45 minutes, 
maybe 30 minutes if you're 

1494
01:20:21,240 --> 01:20:23,600
really, really smoking. 
And they get a really good heads

1495
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:24,760
up. 
And they managed to put an all 

1496
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:26,280
call out. 
I wasn't in the office on the 

1497
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,360
day, so I can't say if there was
an all call on the on the the 

1498
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,960
PA, but you could get a 
response. 

1499
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:32,600
But you can't get a 3 minute 
response out of them. 

1500
01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:35,600
So ATF was on standby. 
And I'll and I'll also tell. 

1501
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:37,960
Yeah. 
And I'll also tell you the only 

1502
01:20:37,960 --> 01:20:40,920
place I've ever seen this on 
video was actually on Russian 

1503
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,080
TV. 
You can see FBI SWAT leading 

1504
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:48,240
Congress members downstairs into
the tunnels. 

1505
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,360
This was before actually that it
was shot. 

1506
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:52,960
How did you tell that they were 
FBI SWAT? 

1507
01:20:55,320 --> 01:20:59,760
Big old yellow FBI across their 
breastplates. 

1508
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,360
Got it. 
Was it they were wearing the 

1509
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,680
yellow ones or they were they 
wearing the black with the multi

1510
01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:07,240
cams? 
No, this is not black. 

1511
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:13,320
These were these were camo and 
they were very, very much 

1512
01:21:13,320 --> 01:21:18,920
identified, emblazoned as FBI 
and they were leading them down 

1513
01:21:19,200 --> 01:21:22,640
the stairs into the tunnels. 
It's not hard to, like I said, 

1514
01:21:22,640 --> 01:21:25,480
it wouldn't be hard to grab two 
dozen of those people even if 

1515
01:21:25,480 --> 01:21:26,840
they weren't on the actual 
response team. 

1516
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,040
I know guys that went in the 
that responded to the Capitol on

1517
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,480
that day, you know, and I also 
heard them talking about it and 

1518
01:21:31,480 --> 01:21:32,520
they were really proud of 
themselves. 

1519
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,320
They were talking about how they
could have shot somebody and 

1520
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,800
they shoved some guy to the 
ground and like he was a real 

1521
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,960
Dick and all this other kind. 
Like I I listened to the team 

1522
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,120
room chat for the for the week 
afterwards because I sat on a 

1523
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:45,680
bag as a medic in the team room.
So these people are not people. 

1524
01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,800
I this is not like some group of
people I don't know. 

1525
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:50,040
Why? 
Why? 

1526
01:21:50,040 --> 01:21:54,560
Why didn't all of these guys 
with, you know, carrying M fours

1527
01:21:55,800 --> 01:22:01,080
assist Capitol Police and Metro 
PD in preventing access to the 

1528
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:05,360
doors of the Capitol? 
I want to know that. 

1529
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,680
That's that's the whole piece 
about what the briefing. 

1530
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,440
The problem is this, and my 
friend heard this on the day of 

1531
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:19,280
the senior management for the 
FBI set up an immediate an 

1532
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:24,400
immediate command post like you 
would for an emergency and they 

1533
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:27,240
were overheard in the hallway 
saying this is going to be our 

1534
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:29,320
9/11. 
Not that it was the biggest 

1535
01:22:29,320 --> 01:22:33,320
terrorist attack, but it was a 
way to ride one case to the top 

1536
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,040
of the FBI for management from 
here on out. 

1537
01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:40,000
They knew it on January 6th. 
That doesn't mean they planned 

1538
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,400
it, but they saw an opportunity 
and the senior management, 

1539
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,640
including people like Jennifer 
Moore, who we've talked about on

1540
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:50,480
this podcast many times and who 
is a, an actual liar, documented

1541
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:53,040
liar, someone who has lied 
underoath to Congress. 

1542
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:56,480
And I can prove that that's not 
even that's not even negotiable.

1543
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,400
I've shared this with number of 
members of Congress and nobody 

1544
01:22:59,400 --> 01:23:01,000
seems to care. 
So I guess they don't care about

1545
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,720
testimony. 
But she is actually lied and she

1546
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:07,920
was one of the people that was 
involved in that and she was the

1547
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,440
special agent in charge of quote
UN quote intelligence, which 

1548
01:23:10,440 --> 01:23:13,560
also was the supervisory level 
that my division that my team 

1549
01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,520
fell under. 
It was the intelligence division

1550
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,760
of the FBI Washington Field 
office. 

1551
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:21,000
So they knew there was an 
opportunity. 

1552
01:23:21,000 --> 01:23:24,080
There, I can put this one. 
Yeah, I can put this story down 

1553
01:23:24,280 --> 01:23:28,600
in the same way we put down the 
disinformation campaign that 

1554
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,280
came out of the Trump team last 
week. 

1555
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,000
I. 
There I said it again. 

1556
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:37,880
The point being is, is that 
there were, there's absolutely 

1557
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:42,680
no way that 3 or 400 people, 
because that's all it was 

1558
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:50,760
overran with six bear spray 
flagpoles, 2 fully armed police 

1559
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:55,000
departments, all of the tactical
units from every three letter 

1560
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:59,360
agency. 
And now we know CIA was on the 

1561
01:23:59,360 --> 01:24:03,720
ground, had boots on the ground.
Now we know that the Department 

1562
01:24:03,720 --> 01:24:05,520
of Defense assets had boots on 
the ground. 

1563
01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:11,840
None of this is going to happen 
by and we're and by the way, 

1564
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,720
when I say 3 or 400, I'm being 
very generous. 

1565
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:20,360
The actual numbers actually 
continuing continued to be 

1566
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:25,640
spoken by the DoD. 
I'm sorry, Department of Justice

1567
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:30,960
DOJ is that they estimate only 
about 225 people actually 

1568
01:24:30,960 --> 01:24:33,040
participated in violence. 
Now there's going to be 

1569
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:37,440
somewhere in the neighborhood of
400 plus charged with violent 

1570
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:38,960
acts. 
But that's going to be more of 

1571
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,360
obstructing police. 
That's going to be more of 

1572
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,600
aiding and abetting. 
That's going to be more of being

1573
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:45,800
in the area. 
Or a guy, you know, that a guy 

1574
01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:49,560
that had the big, the big banner
that was passed, you know, the 

1575
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,600
metal, you know, guys that 
reached up and touched that as 

1576
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,560
he was coming over their head. 
A, a, a response that anybody 

1577
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:59,600
would make, including Ray Epps 
made that response and put his 

1578
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:02,480
hand up on it. 
Those everybody but Ray that did

1579
01:25:02,480 --> 01:25:07,800
that, they've been charged with 
a, a felony for using a deadly 

1580
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,760
weapon against law enforcement. 
And so point being is a lot of 

1581
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:16,320
people who just made the natural
response and oh, there's a big, 

1582
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,480
you know, long piece of metal 
above my head. 

1583
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:22,040
I'm going to put my head hand up
to keep it from hitting me in 

1584
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:22,680
the head. 
Sure. 

1585
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,880
They got charged with a violent 
felony. 

1586
01:25:26,560 --> 01:25:31,200
So by the DO JS own estimate, 
only about 225 people actually 

1587
01:25:31,480 --> 01:25:33,200
engaged in violence that gets 
this log. 

1588
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,840
And yet they managed to collapse
the police line, a reinforced 

1589
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:44,360
police line by MPD and then also
with all of these clandestine 

1590
01:25:44,360 --> 01:25:48,880
surreptitiously located 
somewhere, tactical units that 

1591
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:50,600
suddenly appeared out of 
nowhere. 

1592
01:25:51,800 --> 01:25:54,480
They were there, Kyle. 
Yeah, that's wild. 

1593
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:58,920
And it's also wild that, you 
know, my, my ongoing and working

1594
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,880
theory continues to be somebody 
at Secret Service failed this 

1595
01:26:01,880 --> 01:26:04,800
Homeland Security, something in 
that somewhere in that chain of 

1596
01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:06,920
command, it fell flat. 
And I don't know why. 

1597
01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:11,080
And I don't have the ability to 
to to discern and neither do 

1598
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:12,200
you. 
And hopefully Congress is 

1599
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:13,560
getting on that team to figure 
it out. 

1600
01:26:14,440 --> 01:26:17,840
The second thing is, is that all
of the things that happened on 

1601
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:22,200
January 6th led to that raid 
that happened at Mar a Lago. 

1602
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:25,280
It had to be that we set it up 
and you can see it because the 

1603
01:26:25,280 --> 01:26:27,600
original charges with that 1512 
obstruction. 

1604
01:26:28,160 --> 01:26:30,280
There's a reason why Trump was 
charged with it as well. 

1605
01:26:30,520 --> 01:26:33,040
They were playing with a game 
that needed to be. 

1606
01:26:33,040 --> 01:26:35,080
It needed to be worked out at 
lower levels. 

1607
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,760
You always take on small game 
before you take on larger game. 

1608
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:40,680
You don't start your first hunt 
on a moose or an or an elk. 

1609
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,600
You go and you shoot rabbits or 
you shoot squirrels or you shoot

1610
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,280
deer. 
Something that's easier. 

1611
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:50,560
So it's it's, it seems obvious 
to me that these are all 

1612
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:52,200
related. 
And I think that's the bigger 

1613
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,320
story as that all of this has to
be said. 

1614
01:26:55,480 --> 01:27:00,400
It's a bigger, bigger picture. 
And the big picture is it's not 

1615
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:04,760
simply about Donald Trump and 
what happened at his house. 

1616
01:27:05,000 --> 01:27:09,400
It's what's happened at hundreds
and now up to over 1000 houses 

1617
01:27:09,640 --> 01:27:13,040
in this country where we are 
proving over and over again that

1618
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:16,000
we have a ADOJ that is 
weaponized against at least some

1619
01:27:16,000 --> 01:27:18,960
members of the American people. 
And by the way, they used to be 

1620
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:22,160
weaponized against people that 
we thought it was kind of OK. 

1621
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,600
We being the conservative right 
was sort of OK with the War on 

1622
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,200
Terror. 
They were sort of OK with the 

1623
01:27:27,200 --> 01:27:28,640
Patriot Act. 
They were like, oh, yeah, that's

1624
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:30,040
obviously what we need to do. 
We need to get really 

1625
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:31,560
aggressive. 
We need to be monitoring these 

1626
01:27:31,560 --> 01:27:34,120
mosques. 
You know, religious freedom is 

1627
01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:36,080
either free or it's not in this 
country. 

1628
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:38,360
And so that's the biggest piece 
about principles. 

1629
01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:41,400
It's not fun to make an argument
that people who have a 

1630
01:27:41,400 --> 01:27:45,000
fundamentally different view of 
the world have a right to that 

1631
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,680
view. 
But that's what America's about.

1632
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:49,080
That's why I enlisted. 
That's why you go and you pursue

1633
01:27:49,080 --> 01:27:52,440
truth. 
It's very hard to square that in

1634
01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:54,120
your brain. 
That's why you have to have room

1635
01:27:54,120 --> 01:27:57,080
for agree to disagree, and you 
have to operate in honesty. 

1636
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:01,200
That's the team that I'm on. 
Like I said, team, team outcome 

1637
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:05,040
and team truth for its own sake,
even if it's inconvenient. 

1638
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:10,120
You know, it's an interesting 
point because not only do we 

1639
01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:14,600
have to be able to disagree, we,
we are, we are taking long 

1640
01:28:14,600 --> 01:28:19,080
knives to each other over 1% 
disagreement sometimes, Kyle, 

1641
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,280
5%. 
One of the first things that I 

1642
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:26,240
do before I meet with a Congress
member is I go look at their 

1643
01:28:26,240 --> 01:28:28,480
voting record. 
You know why I do that? 

1644
01:28:29,680 --> 01:28:33,320
I want to know how much of an 
agreement I actually AM with 

1645
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:34,920
this guy or this gal. 
Sure. 

1646
01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,280
Is it 85? 
Is it 85%? 

1647
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:41,320
OK, that's pretty good. 
Is it 97%, like, like a Thomas 

1648
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:42,720
Massey or Rand Paul? 
Right. 

1649
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:43,840
Yeah. 
We're gonna get along. 

1650
01:28:44,160 --> 01:28:45,880
We're gonna get along very well 
now. 

1651
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:48,280
And when they disagree, you can 
you can look at their 

1652
01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:50,240
disagreements in good faith. 
You're like, OK, well this is a 

1653
01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:51,720
person that I almost always 
agree with. 

1654
01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:55,640
So it's more quirky and 
interesting that we don't agree 

1655
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:56,960
on something. 
I've got a buddy that I agree 

1656
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:01,520
with probably like you said, 
9597% of the time that 5 or 3% 

1657
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,120
when we don't, it's very weird 
to find those edges and you're 

1658
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,400
like, oh tell me more. 
If you're honest, you say tell 

1659
01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,520
me more about that. 
You don't go screw you. 

1660
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:12,080
We're never going to be friends.
I've never heard of people say 

1661
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:13,800
everything. 
Every friend of mine has to 

1662
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:15,600
agree with me 100%. 
You should only be friends with 

1663
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:16,800
yourself then. 
That's the only person. 

1664
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,600
It's a subset of one that you 
will agree with all the time. 

1665
01:29:21,200 --> 01:29:24,040
And that's why when we think 
that Thomas Massie is going off 

1666
01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:27,200
the rails, the what, what is the
one thing that he will do? 

1667
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,360
He goes into detailed 
explanation, helping you 

1668
01:29:31,480 --> 01:29:33,720
understand. 
Now he's an MIT trained, you 

1669
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:38,480
know, master's degree engineer. 
You know, he, he's one of those 

1670
01:29:38,480 --> 01:29:40,680
guys probably on the spectrum, 
you know what I mean? 

1671
01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,360
But the point being is, is that 
is that when he knows that he's 

1672
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:51,080
about to go off the plantation 
or off the approved narrative 

1673
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,320
from even his own team, he goes 
into a detailed explanation. 

1674
01:29:56,480 --> 01:30:00,880
So you can understand his 
thought process and how he came 

1675
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:04,120
to that conclusion, and you may 
still disagree with him. 

1676
01:30:04,440 --> 01:30:06,040
If you. 
Know he reasoned it out. 

1677
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:09,160
If you were asking yourself, 
God, Kyle, why are you guys 

1678
01:30:09,160 --> 01:30:11,080
still flogging this horse, it's 
over. 

1679
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:15,560
The reason is exactly what you 
just said because we are giving 

1680
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:17,960
you all of the reasons why we 
don't agree with something 

1681
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:22,600
that's very important. 
And also, I haven't rejected 

1682
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:24,680
Julie Kelly. 
Her phone number is not blocked.

1683
01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:26,880
I don't think she's saying good 
things. 

1684
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,960
I don't like people slandering 
me in public. 

1685
01:30:29,400 --> 01:30:33,400
I don't like them, you know, 
pushing false information and 

1686
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,960
claiming that I'm an OP. 
That's nonsensical. 

1687
01:30:36,000 --> 01:30:37,680
It's offensive to my family 
members. 

1688
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,880
I watched, I watched my wife cry
over this far too many times to 

1689
01:30:41,880 --> 01:30:44,520
have some lady who has never 
endured physical hardship for 

1690
01:30:44,520 --> 01:30:47,120
this country or emotional or as 
far as I know, financial 

1691
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,880
hardship because of the love of 
truth. 

1692
01:30:48,920 --> 01:30:50,640
Maybe she has, but she hasn't 
told me about it. 

1693
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,240
I don't want that. 
But it doesn't mean that I'm not

1694
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:55,600
going to still support those 
people. 

1695
01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:57,360
It doesn't mean that I don't 
agree with them most of the 

1696
01:30:57,360 --> 01:30:59,640
time, almost all the time I do. 
I don't even think there's a lot

1697
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:00,840
of daylight between our 
opinions. 

1698
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:03,640
It's simply about motivation. 
And we are allowed to have those

1699
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,680
disagreements in America. 
That's what I'm that's why we're

1700
01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:10,120
on Rumble, folks. 
You want to know we're on Rumble

1701
01:31:10,120 --> 01:31:11,480
because we can have dissenting 
opinions. 

1702
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,320
We don't get censored like we do
over on YouTube. 

1703
01:31:13,480 --> 01:31:15,080
Or if I tell you, hey, guess 
what? 

1704
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:17,760
There's some real nasty fear 
porn. 

1705
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,480
By the way, Steve, I did a whole
episode on fear porn and what's 

1706
01:31:20,480 --> 01:31:23,800
being pushed and how to trigger 
the amygdala with this bird flu 

1707
01:31:23,800 --> 01:31:28,280
and five H one thing immediately
dropped off YouTube for vaccine 

1708
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:31,800
misinformation reading directly 
from the AP. 

1709
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:33,440
So, you know, that's how that 
goes. 

1710
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,400
God forbid you you quote any of 
the sources that they don't 

1711
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:37,800
choose. 
And if you say anything from 

1712
01:31:37,800 --> 01:31:39,120
Doctor Peter McCullough, like 
you're done. 

1713
01:31:39,400 --> 01:31:41,120
So that episode, it wasn't a 
strike, by the way. 

1714
01:31:41,120 --> 01:31:43,120
We're not just, we're just. 
Removing it because it's 

1715
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,320
dangerous for people to have 
more information. 

1716
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:48,040
End of the day, the reason this 
thing has been beaten so many 

1717
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:51,360
times is because a lot of us 
have, I'm going to suggest 

1718
01:31:51,440 --> 01:31:53,880
thousands of hours. 
Like, I'm not an expert on FISA,

1719
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:56,040
but I know more about FISA than 
almost everybody that's talking 

1720
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:59,920
about it because I have, I have 
about 4000 hours worth of 

1721
01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:03,000
functional work on the FISA 
systems that the FBI did. 

1722
01:32:03,040 --> 01:32:08,720
That's not a ton, by the way, 
4000, but it's more than most 

1723
01:32:08,720 --> 01:32:10,400
people who talk about it. 
It's more than Sean Hannity's 

1724
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,640
ever had. 
It's more than almost every 

1725
01:32:13,640 --> 01:32:17,160
Congress person has ever had. 
I have more experience in that 

1726
01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,960
space. 
I've got thousands of briefings 

1727
01:32:19,960 --> 01:32:22,240
to the point where I can tell 
you the DO JS deadly force 

1728
01:32:22,240 --> 01:32:25,840
policy from memory as I briefed 
it to my team every day for 

1729
01:32:25,840 --> 01:32:29,440
hundreds of days in a row. 
And you just quote you check 

1730
01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:31,880
your check your notes here, but 
it just says law enforcement 

1731
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,120
officers of the Department of 
Justice may use deadly force may

1732
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:37,520
use deadly force only when 
necessary. 

1733
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:40,880
Again, another key piece of it. 
That is when the officer, when 

1734
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,960
the officer has a reasonable 
belief that the subject of such 

1735
01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:45,000
force poses an imminent danger 
of death or serious physical 

1736
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:46,760
injury to the officer or another
person. 

1737
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,280
It's in my head because I used 
to say it daily and it doesn't 

1738
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:53,920
mean anything. 
It just means that if you have 

1739
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,880
to do it, they have to meet all 
the criteria. 

1740
01:32:55,880 --> 01:32:58,280
And we just told you what it is.
It's classic CYA. 

1741
01:32:58,520 --> 01:32:59,840
We have to understand these 
things. 

1742
01:32:59,840 --> 01:33:01,280
That's not an authorization to 
go use it. 

1743
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,520
It's always an effect. 
Anyway, We'll, we'll conclude 

1744
01:33:04,520 --> 01:33:06,840
our thoughts with the method 
about and I, I said this while 

1745
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:08,400
you were off the line and I 
think this is the most 

1746
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:09,760
important. 
There's two pieces to it, the 

1747
01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:13,240
objectivity, the observation, 
those are critical and empathy 

1748
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:15,000
is the last one. 
Do you want to talk a little bit

1749
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,200
about the need for empathy when 
you're when you're reviewing 

1750
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:20,720
information? 
You talked about it the first 

1751
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,920
time you and I spoke about your 
dad's techniques and what he 

1752
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:24,280
does sitting in a room. 
Can you talk about that a 

1753
01:33:24,280 --> 01:33:28,360
little? 
Bit yeah, you know, my, my dad 

1754
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:32,040
was one of those guys who had 
the quote UN quote, profiler 

1755
01:33:32,040 --> 01:33:34,600
gift. 
I didn't know that at the time. 

1756
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,800
You know, looking back at his 
career and his life, I, I 

1757
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:41,120
realized that he had, that he 
was, he was one of those guys. 

1758
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:43,640
You know, we've seen, we've seen
them played on TV and in the 

1759
01:33:43,640 --> 01:33:46,680
movies. 
They seem to have the ability to

1760
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:51,520
get into the head of the person 
that they're looking for or the 

1761
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,320
person they're investigating and
come up with not only motives, 

1762
01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,160
but sometimes just location. 
And my dad's specialty was 

1763
01:34:00,160 --> 01:34:05,160
missing persons and he had been 
able to find over his career, I 

1764
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,760
don't know how many individuals.
I'm not I'm not even going to 

1765
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:13,200
throw a number out that had 
been, I'm not going to say cold 

1766
01:34:13,200 --> 01:34:17,320
cased by the FBI or, or had 
been, you know, whatever you 

1767
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,760
guys call it when you put it at 
the bottom of your file. 

1768
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,960
But the bottom line is they had 
quit looking for them and we're 

1769
01:34:24,120 --> 01:34:26,400
for whatever reason, no longer a
priority. 

1770
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,240
And my dad is a private 
investigator, would either be 

1771
01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:33,920
hired by family members or other
interested parties to find these

1772
01:34:33,920 --> 01:34:36,000
individuals. 
And he would lock himself in his

1773
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:40,240
office and he might come out 
three hours or three days later.

1774
01:34:40,480 --> 01:34:43,400
But when he came out, now this 
is pre Internet, there was no 

1775
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,840
Google, there was no Wikipedia 
there, there, there, there was 

1776
01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,160
none of this. 
But when he came out of his 

1777
01:34:49,160 --> 01:34:51,640
office, he knew where they were,
probably already had them on the

1778
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:55,040
phone, the actual individual 
that the FBI had given up on. 

1779
01:34:56,000 --> 01:34:59,880
And, and he could, he could by 
just interviewing the family 

1780
01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,920
members or interviewing the 
interested parties, picking up 

1781
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:07,440
additional leads, clues, other 
people he might need to talk to.

1782
01:35:07,680 --> 01:35:09,880
And he would just get on the 
phone and he would start talking

1783
01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,640
to these individuals and his, 
all of this thing would start, 

1784
01:35:12,880 --> 01:35:14,600
you know, coalescing in his 
mind. 

1785
01:35:15,040 --> 01:35:19,040
He could put himself into that 
person's place, into their own 

1786
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:21,480
mindset. 
You could basically become them 

1787
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:25,000
and go OK, if I'm them, where 
would I be? 

1788
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:27,680
That's, that's empathy. 
That's what empathy looks like. 

1789
01:35:27,680 --> 01:35:29,880
Folks, if you, if you don't know
the difference between sympathy 

1790
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,520
and empathy, it's very critical 
and it's one of the things that 

1791
01:35:32,520 --> 01:35:35,600
makes you a better investigator.
It is a it is a gift, but it's 

1792
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:38,480
also a practice. 
So in order to do it, what you 

1793
01:35:38,480 --> 01:35:41,760
have to do, sympathy means I see
that you are feeling bad and I 

1794
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:43,040
feel bad that you're feeling 
bad. 

1795
01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,680
But empathy is I see that you're
feeling bad and I feel bad as 

1796
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,440
you feel bad. 
I am able to actually channel 

1797
01:35:50,440 --> 01:35:52,560
the thing that you are feeling 
internally. 

1798
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,480
And occasionally you've got to 
be able to do that. 

1799
01:35:55,600 --> 01:35:57,920
You have to put yourself in 
somebody else's shoes and say, 

1800
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:00,160
what are the motives? 
What are the reasons? 

1801
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:02,800
What are the driving factors 
here at play? 

1802
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:06,000
Not from me looking on the 
outside with my biases that I'm 

1803
01:36:06,000 --> 01:36:09,000
trying to eliminate, but what is
going on from the other side? 

1804
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:11,280
And if that's actually 
understanding that the audience,

1805
01:36:11,480 --> 01:36:15,520
that maybe even an audience of 
one, the audience is, it's like,

1806
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:18,480
OK, the audience is what's going
on in somebody else's head. 

1807
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,480
What are their, what are their 
actual motives and intent? 

1808
01:36:21,480 --> 01:36:22,840
We can always only estimate 
them. 

1809
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:24,960
Some people have that rare gift 
to be able to really feel it 

1810
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:26,920
sounds like your dad was one of 
those types of guys. 

1811
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:28,760
It's very cool when people can 
do it. 

1812
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:33,520
But that's where the zero Effect
movie falls short. 

1813
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:36,680
He talks about his momentary 
lapse and objectivity, and it 

1814
01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:38,880
turns out occasionally you have 
to be less objective and more 

1815
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:40,760
subjective by being very 
empathetic. 

1816
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:43,440
And it's not subjective giving 
into your own, it's giving into 

1817
01:36:43,440 --> 01:36:46,720
somebody else's thoughts. 
It's hard to do it and then also

1818
01:36:46,720 --> 01:36:49,680
walk away from IT. 
People you know, if you feel as 

1819
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:51,480
other people do, it will affect 
you. 

1820
01:36:51,480 --> 01:36:54,000
It has a toll on people and it 
makes them very difficult to be 

1821
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,920
around. 
And it also is like, it's, it's 

1822
01:36:55,920 --> 01:36:58,240
really sad if you feel other 
people's pain. 

1823
01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:02,360
True empaths, like they're 
constantly hurting because it's 

1824
01:37:02,360 --> 01:37:03,760
not their pain. 
They're picking up everybody's 

1825
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:05,080
pain. 
And that's, that's tough to see.

1826
01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,480
My wife is very much like that, 
or she was before she stopped 

1827
01:37:08,480 --> 01:37:10,400
sleeping and had babies. 
She can't be as empathic 

1828
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,200
anymore. 
It's the cure. 

1829
01:37:12,320 --> 01:37:14,040
It's the cure to to true 
empathy. 

1830
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:18,240
And let me, and let me let me 
tell you, let me tell you 

1831
01:37:18,240 --> 01:37:22,800
another thing, an aspect about 
this method that we have to be 

1832
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:27,760
aware of is that it's like any 
research and you mentioned the 

1833
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:32,040
scientific method earlier. 
You have to be willing to get it

1834
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:33,320
wrong. 
Sometimes. 

1835
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:36,720
You have to be willing to put 
yourself out close enough to the

1836
01:37:36,720 --> 01:37:41,960
edge that you're going to make a
mistake in the interpretation of

1837
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:46,120
your observation. 
I have gotten many things wrong 

1838
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:49,320
in my observation of January 
6th. 

1839
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:53,560
Characters are events or 
instances that I've looked at 

1840
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,120
closely. 
As a result of that, with more 

1841
01:37:56,120 --> 01:38:01,400
data, more video, more trial 
discovery, etcetera, we learn 

1842
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:03,520
more. 
And then as we learn, we get 

1843
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:07,040
better at it. 
You know our our our programming

1844
01:38:07,040 --> 01:38:08,680
gets better at. 
It if you're being really 

1845
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,480
honest, that those are the 
moments of real discovery when 

1846
01:38:11,480 --> 01:38:13,840
you're like, aha, that's right, 
I was wrong. 

1847
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:18,080
There's more to it. 
I've actually cracked my own 

1848
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:20,720
biases, my own assumptions, and 
I'm able to go a little bit 

1849
01:38:20,720 --> 01:38:22,760
deeper now. 
Now it's opened up a whole new 

1850
01:38:22,920 --> 01:38:25,280
you know, if you were exploring 
the Caverns of Truth, it's 

1851
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,240
punching through what looked 
like a wall, seeing a little 

1852
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:28,800
hole and looking in and seeing 
another cavern. 

1853
01:38:30,320 --> 01:38:33,240
But you have to be willing to do
that. 

1854
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,320
And then you have to be willing 
to go forward and say, OK, I 

1855
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:39,520
made this mistake. 
I'll just give you one quick 

1856
01:38:39,520 --> 01:38:40,600
example. 
It is big. 

1857
01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:42,600
And it's, it's been a while 
since I've been at the place. 

1858
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,480
I, I, you know, I have for, you 
know, a year and a half. 

1859
01:38:45,880 --> 01:38:50,200
Well, I've been for three years 
now absolutely 100% convinced 

1860
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:56,880
that Harry Dunn was never called
the N word by 20304050 people 

1861
01:38:56,880 --> 01:39:01,000
chanting it at him at a time. 
The reason why I'm convinced of 

1862
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:04,880
that is because in the most 
video recorded event in the 

1863
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:09,640
history of, you know, humanity, 
that is not on video, where one 

1864
01:39:09,640 --> 01:39:12,480
out of every three people that 
are standing around had a cell 

1865
01:39:12,480 --> 01:39:17,280
phone camera up in the air. 
And so I know that that didn't 

1866
01:39:17,280 --> 01:39:19,480
happen. 
But the one thing that I had 

1867
01:39:19,480 --> 01:39:23,680
never found and we did a story 
is with all of this thousands 

1868
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:27,960
upon 10s of thousands of hours 
of video, no one had at that 

1869
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:32,400
point produced a video of 
anybody using the N word. 

1870
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,920
And and even though I made that 
point, I also always qualified 

1871
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,400
this. 
And I said, now look, there were

1872
01:39:40,400 --> 01:39:42,280
some people carrying a 
Confederate flag. 

1873
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:47,080
It's it, it would be highly 
unlikely that, you know, the 10s

1874
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,520
of thousands of people that 
gathered at the Capitol, the 

1875
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:53,440
3000 people that went inside the
Capitol, the the hundreds of 

1876
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:55,840
thousands of people that were 
at, you know, in the city that 

1877
01:39:55,840 --> 01:39:59,040
day for January 6th. 
It's highly unlikely that there 

1878
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,920
weren't some racial people in 
there that that's a word in 

1879
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,920
their, you know, vocabulary and 
probably regularly used. 

1880
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,120
It just happens. 
And I can show you the equal and

1881
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:09,840
the opposite on the other side 
from the leftist protest. 

1882
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,800
Sure. 
So it's just the way it is. 

1883
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:15,560
There's extremists, there's 
racist, there's prejudice on 

1884
01:40:15,560 --> 01:40:16,960
both sides of the political 
aisle. 

1885
01:40:18,720 --> 01:40:22,600
But then when I came out with 
that story, then when I came out

1886
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:27,040
with that story, one of the 
sedition hunters contacted me 

1887
01:40:27,040 --> 01:40:29,920
privately and said I've got your
video for you. 

1888
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:33,680
I got your in Word video. 
And she sent it. 

1889
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:36,280
And you know what I did with it?
Published it. 

1890
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,640
I published it. 
Exactly. 

1891
01:40:38,920 --> 01:40:40,120
And how many people were saying 
it? 

1892
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:46,120
We got one, maybe two so far 
that we've found. 

1893
01:40:47,240 --> 01:40:49,720
So not and and Was it audible to
Harry Dunn? 

1894
01:40:49,720 --> 01:40:53,560
Most likely. 
No, it none of this had anything

1895
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:55,160
to do with Harry Dunn 
whatsoever. 

1896
01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:56,560
See, it had nothing to do with 
him. 

1897
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:58,480
Right. 
And it wasn't in his. 

1898
01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,320
It wasn't in his vicinity. 
When it was used, he wasn't even

1899
01:41:01,320 --> 01:41:03,720
there. 
Yes, thank you. 

1900
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:07,760
And so and so the point being 
is, is that once, once it was 

1901
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:12,200
revealed to me, I I and I even 
said I, I, I, I said this. 

1902
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,320
If you have the video, send it 
to me. 

1903
01:41:15,320 --> 01:41:18,080
I'll write a story about it. 
In other words. 

1904
01:41:18,080 --> 01:41:19,600
Sent to me. 
I wrote a story about it. 

1905
01:41:19,640 --> 01:41:22,840
I'm willing to be wrong. 
That's correct. 

1906
01:41:23,440 --> 01:41:25,560
That's exactly correct. 
That's that's how the game of 

1907
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:27,680
truth is played. 
By the way, folks, when there's 

1908
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:29,440
more information out there, 
that's why we talk about the 

1909
01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:31,920
illusory truth effect on here. 
If you hear it over and over 

1910
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,040
again and you want it to be 
true, those are the things you 

1911
01:41:34,040 --> 01:41:35,840
got to question the most. 
We're talking about the method, 

1912
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:38,160
not because it's so interesting 
for me and Steve to go and chop 

1913
01:41:38,160 --> 01:41:40,400
it up, although I will talk to 
Steve all day about anything he 

1914
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:41,520
wants. 
We have a lot of fun. 

1915
01:41:42,440 --> 01:41:46,160
It's really important that you 
have a rubric to evaluate 

1916
01:41:46,160 --> 01:41:50,440
information that comes at you. 
I got AI got a text this morning

1917
01:41:50,440 --> 01:41:53,240
from somebody you really don't 
like and. 

1918
01:41:53,600 --> 01:41:55,400
What is Ryan? 
What is Ryan doing anyway? 

1919
01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:58,960
How? 
Did you? 

1920
01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,320
How did you? 
I mean, you and I know some 

1921
01:42:01,320 --> 01:42:02,360
other people. 
You really don't. 

1922
01:42:02,360 --> 01:42:04,920
Like I know, but I'm a I'm I'm a
trained investigator. 

1923
01:42:04,920 --> 01:42:07,480
I I did some empathy there. 
I clept stepped right in your. 

1924
01:42:07,480 --> 01:42:09,440
Shoes, I know what you're doing.
Go ahead. 

1925
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:10,520
What's Ryan? 
Ryan. 

1926
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:15,560
Say and so so, so obviously Ryan
being Ryan, he's reveling in 

1927
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:20,120
this this public, you know, 
dispute that's going on right 

1928
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:21,680
now. 
Of course he he's loving it. 

1929
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:24,360
Yeah, weird, because he's on my 
side on this one, I'm sure. 

1930
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:29,880
Right, right, right. 
And, and, and so this is exactly

1931
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:35,040
what he said to me this morning.
He said, this is the same person

1932
01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:40,560
talking about Julie, he said, 
who believes that every single 

1933
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:47,160
person in the Capitol building 
by design must burn to death if 

1934
01:42:47,160 --> 01:42:50,640
the building is ever on fire. 
And I'm like, what he said, oh, 

1935
01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,480
yeah. 
He said, Julie for three years 

1936
01:42:53,480 --> 01:42:58,600
now continues to push the idea 
that there's some secret magic 

1937
01:42:59,040 --> 01:43:03,240
button on the second floor of 
the Capitol that unlocks all of 

1938
01:43:03,240 --> 01:43:09,600
the magnetic doors. 
And that is an area right there 

1939
01:43:09,880 --> 01:43:14,720
that if you go look at what 
happened and you have had the 

1940
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:17,920
opportunity to look at all the 
video that I've seen related to 

1941
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:21,240
the Capitol is, you know, 
there's there's this one 

1942
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:24,520
incidence where this one guy 
goes over to the east door. 

1943
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,640
He's already broke. 
He's come, he's come through 

1944
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:28,240
from the West. 
He's worked his way all the way 

1945
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:29,320
through the other side of the 
building. 

1946
01:43:29,520 --> 01:43:33,280
He goes to the east door. 
He's pushes on the bar, you 

1947
01:43:33,280 --> 01:43:35,120
know, like all these exit doors 
have. 

1948
01:43:35,120 --> 01:43:37,520
He pushes on the bar. 
It doesn't open. 

1949
01:43:37,640 --> 01:43:40,880
So he looks up over his 
shoulder, points upstairs to 

1950
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:46,520
something, and then goes back to
the bar, pushes again, and it 

1951
01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:47,480
opens. 
Right. 

1952
01:43:47,880 --> 01:43:53,160
Well, everybody has said that. 
What he did is he went and he 

1953
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:57,440
pointed to the guy that had 
access to the magic button, 

1954
01:43:57,640 --> 01:43:59,440
right? 
That releases all the magnetic 

1955
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:04,680
locks. 
No, there's a sign on a pedestal

1956
01:44:04,880 --> 01:44:10,000
right in front of the door that 
says depress the bar for three 

1957
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,680
seconds and then 15 seconds 
later it will open. 

1958
01:44:15,440 --> 01:44:16,960
Which is a fire has. 
It's DC. 

1959
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:20,920
It's DC fire code, Sure. 
Every building in the city. 

1960
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:22,760
That actually came up in our 
chat earlier. 

1961
01:44:22,760 --> 01:44:24,280
If we wanted to know, were there
magnetic locks? 

1962
01:44:24,280 --> 01:44:26,240
Was there a way to undo it? 
And the answer you've just given

1963
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,520
is a basic sign and basic fire 
safety. 

1964
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:32,800
You can't bar the doors to a 
building for people to egress. 

1965
01:44:33,000 --> 01:44:34,360
Right. 
That's right. 

1966
01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:36,720
And that's why Congressman 
Bowman, you remember when he 

1967
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,680
went and tried to stop the, the,
the the vote and he went and he 

1968
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,120
set off the fire alarm. 
You notice the first thing that 

1969
01:44:43,120 --> 01:44:48,040
he did is he removed the signs. 
You know what the sign says to 

1970
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:51,960
press the bar for three seconds 
and 15 seconds later it will 

1971
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:53,560
open. 
And make an alarm. 

1972
01:44:53,560 --> 01:44:58,640
This is exactly and he and he 
put, he took the signs down 

1973
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:00,840
because he knew what he was 
doing. 

1974
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:02,880
Sure. 
Oh yeah. 

1975
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:06,160
I mean, I think we all kind of 
knew that Obstruction of 

1976
01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:08,040
official proceeding. 
He's been charged 1512 or is 

1977
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:09,720
that just that's good if you're 
a Congress. 

1978
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:13,440
Person. 
Just you, just you and Trump and

1979
01:45:13,600 --> 01:45:17,840
1000 plus other J Sixers. 
Very cool, very cool. 

1980
01:45:17,840 --> 01:45:20,080
Really happy to do it. 
OK, I'm going to throw your 

1981
01:45:20,160 --> 01:45:22,320
social media here. 
People can follow you, give a 

1982
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,440
pitch if you would. 
I'm on the screen instead of 

1983
01:45:24,440 --> 01:45:28,720
you, but there you are TPC 4 USA
Steve Baker joining us by phone.

1984
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,760
You guys can follow him there. 
You got anything you want to 

1985
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:32,120
pitch your Your Blaze site as 
well? 

1986
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,400
Yeah, I mean, everything that 
we're doing on the Blaze is, is 

1987
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,200
of course, you know, the 
theblaze.com, you know, has a 

1988
01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:44,880
paywall now because it, because 
the Blaze has gone ad free. 

1989
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:48,040
And I know people complain 
about, you know, paying $3 a 

1990
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,200
month for access, but you know, 
we used to pay a lot more for 

1991
01:45:50,200 --> 01:45:52,240
our, our newspaper, you know, 
delivery. 

1992
01:45:52,840 --> 01:45:56,160
So all, all I'm saying, I don't 
have a code to give you, you 

1993
01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:59,200
know, I'm not, this is not a 
sales pitch, but everything that

1994
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,560
is behind the Blaze, you can 
find it either under my name, 

1995
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:05,440
Steve Baker, but they've also 
given me a, a unique URL just 

1996
01:46:05,440 --> 01:46:07,800
for my January 6th 
investigations. 

1997
01:46:08,120 --> 01:46:14,040
And that's theblaze.com/truth. 
Do you do you know what a burden

1998
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,720
that is, Kyle? 
Oh, you mean when you have to 

1999
01:46:16,720 --> 01:46:18,920
actually say things that are 
true 'cause you've been told 

2000
01:46:18,920 --> 01:46:21,240
that that's the name of your of 
your URL? 

2001
01:46:21,440 --> 01:46:25,760
When your company, when your 
company gives your work it's own

2002
01:46:25,760 --> 01:46:28,440
unique at URL and they say 
truth. 

2003
01:46:29,960 --> 01:46:32,480
That's why I struggled for a 
week over this issue that we've 

2004
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,000
talked about today. 
That's right is I was sitting on

2005
01:46:35,000 --> 01:46:39,480
the truth and I was scared to 
present it because I knew there 

2006
01:46:39,480 --> 01:46:42,000
would be hell to pay. 
That's the worst part for me, 

2007
01:46:42,000 --> 01:46:44,640
that's the worst part for you, 
is that there's no clout chasing

2008
01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:46,560
on this. 
There's no, there's no glory in 

2009
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:48,280
telling other people that 
they're mistaken. 

2010
01:46:48,760 --> 01:46:50,240
We don't want them to be 
mistaken. 

2011
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:51,600
I don't want them to be 
mistaken. 

2012
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,040
I want them to be correct. 
That's why we reach out 

2013
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,080
privately. 
But when you're rebuffed and 

2014
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,240
everybody around you is rebuffed
and all the people that are 

2015
01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:01,160
actually knowledgeable in this 
field are rebuffed and then they

2016
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:04,040
call you an OP Dan Bongino calls
that the dipsy do fliparoo, 

2017
01:47:04,040 --> 01:47:06,240
which is to say that they they 
accuse you of what they're 

2018
01:47:06,240 --> 01:47:08,480
doing. 
I hope that that's not what's 

2019
01:47:08,480 --> 01:47:11,400
happening here. 
Even it's hard to see it any 

2020
01:47:11,400 --> 01:47:13,040
other way. 
George Hill saw the same sort of

2021
01:47:13,040 --> 01:47:14,680
stuff. 
We independently look, it looks 

2022
01:47:14,680 --> 01:47:16,600
like, and it doesn't have to be.
Here's The funny thing, and I'll

2023
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:18,040
tell you this, Steve, 'cause I 
think this is true. 

2024
01:47:18,880 --> 01:47:21,240
It doesn't have to be an OP 
being run by people like Julie 

2025
01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,960
Kelly or Dan or anybody else. 
It can be an OP being run by 

2026
01:47:23,960 --> 01:47:26,520
social media algorithms that's 
pushing for division. 

2027
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,240
And that is a big, big 
likelihood in my estimation. 

2028
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,920
I would say that with medium 
confidence that we are seeing 

2029
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:36,600
algorithmic boosting of stories 
that create division, which is 

2030
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:38,960
what makes Ryan Riley happy. 
And it makes a bunch of these 

2031
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:41,760
people on the political left 
thrilled to see that we are 

2032
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:44,760
arguing over the one or three or
5% of things that we don't agree

2033
01:47:44,760 --> 01:47:49,400
on 100% because it's distracted 
everybody from the 95% of what 

2034
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:51,840
we do agree. 
And we do agree on most of the 

2035
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,240
things. 
And we even agree on there's, 

2036
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,680
like I said, there's very little
daylight between our positions. 

2037
01:47:56,920 --> 01:47:59,880
The difference is I'm really, 
really hyper focused on 

2038
01:47:59,880 --> 01:48:02,640
accuracy, even though nobody's 
going to ever ask me to come 

2039
01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:04,640
testify in front of Congress 
because they know how impolite 

2040
01:48:04,640 --> 01:48:07,200
I'm willing to be. 
And I'm really willing to be, 

2041
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:11,920
I'm willing to be mean. 
But I just think that that it 

2042
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:16,320
matters and I, I won't do it. 
I won't say things that I know 

2043
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:17,680
are false because it's 
convenient. 

2044
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,160
It turns out that's why I don't 
have friends at the FBI. 

2045
01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:27,600
Yes, that's exactly right. 
Well, man, hey, look, it's been,

2046
01:48:27,800 --> 01:48:28,880
it's been awesome. 
Great. 

2047
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,840
I'm sorry we had the, the hotel 
Wi-Fi signal problems here and 

2048
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:36,760
but that that's OK. 
I I would rather look at just 

2049
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,040
that photo than, you know, my my
morning mug anyway, so. 

2050
01:48:40,280 --> 01:48:42,760
You know what's good? 
It always, it pushes me to do 

2051
01:48:42,760 --> 01:48:45,200
better on the visual. 
So folks, if you didn't see the,

2052
01:48:45,200 --> 01:48:47,280
the, if you're listening on any 
of the audio channels, Spotify 

2053
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:50,600
or whatever, I heart on, on 
Apple, you didn't get to see me 

2054
01:48:50,600 --> 01:48:52,880
scrambling on the back end to 
create a visual that looks 

2055
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,440
appropriate. 
And I think I did OK. 

2056
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:56,920
The folks in the chat are like, 
man, Kyle's pretty quick at 

2057
01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,200
doing this stuff. 
It's like, it's like I have a 

2058
01:48:59,200 --> 01:49:01,840
skill set because I have to have
a skill set because I got to do 

2059
01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,680
this job because I don't have a 
fed job to lean on and I don't 

2060
01:49:04,680 --> 01:49:07,120
get any Soros money like you 
were apparently accused of. 

2061
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:10,080
It turns out this is what I do 
for a living and I take my 

2062
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,480
profession, whatever it may be, 
whether it be investigator, 

2063
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:15,640
whether it be paramedic, whether
it be finance analyst at a movie

2064
01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,000
studio, which I've done all 
those things. 

2065
01:49:17,320 --> 01:49:19,920
I take it really seriously. 
And because it's a reflection of

2066
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:21,360
me and the world. 
So we did it. 

2067
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,280
We did an OK job. 
I think we scrambled, we made it

2068
01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:24,440
work. 
I'll cut out some of the ugly 

2069
01:49:24,440 --> 01:49:27,000
audio earlier so people who are 
listening after the fact won't 

2070
01:49:27,000 --> 01:49:29,080
realize it. 
But thanks for giving me the 

2071
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:31,440
time today, Steve. 
Thanks for, you know, chatting 

2072
01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:35,360
with me while you're sitting in 
a hotel room and running around 

2073
01:49:35,360 --> 01:49:39,120
doing your work. 
Yeah, man, thank you as always. 

2074
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:43,040
I, you know, I didn't, I didn't 
want to get even as explicit as 

2075
01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:46,920
we did today, but it was good to
get it off my chest and I think 

2076
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:50,120
we did so respectfully. 
As I said before, I have had 

2077
01:49:50,200 --> 01:49:55,200
great respect for Julie's work. 
I as I said, I praised her the 

2078
01:49:55,200 --> 01:50:01,960
day before she dropped this and 
and now I'm the villain in her 

2079
01:50:01,960 --> 01:50:03,040
world. 
I said. 

2080
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:04,880
OK, well. 
There's no villains here. 

2081
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,240
There's just we agree, there's 
just mistakes. 

2082
01:50:07,480 --> 01:50:11,840
We agree 95% of the time we 
should be able to respectfully 

2083
01:50:12,240 --> 01:50:14,400
come to a different conclusion 
that other 5%. 

2084
01:50:15,320 --> 01:50:17,200
That's all it's about. 
Team Truth. 

2085
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:22,000
Theblaze.com/truth check out 
Steve Baker. 

2086
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:23,640
Thanks for joining me, buddy. 
We'll do it again soon, I'm 

2087
01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,480
sure, whenever the next thing 
happens. 

2088
01:50:25,720 --> 01:50:27,640
Just like we played on the clip,
When you're out in the world 

2089
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:30,320
looking for anything, which is 
what you do, I know you're 

2090
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,080
likely to find something because
of all the things. 

2091
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,440
Many of them will fit the bill. 
Thanks for being on the show and

2092
01:50:34,440 --> 01:50:35,520
talking about the method with me
bud. 

2093
01:50:37,000 --> 01:50:39,200
Thanks, Kyle. 
All right, we're going to say 

2094
01:50:39,200 --> 01:50:41,560
goodbye to Steve. 
We appreciate all of you guys 

2095
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,240
and your. 
There it is. 

2096
01:50:44,400 --> 01:50:45,520
That's Steve dropping off the 
line. 

2097
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:48,440
Thanks for your attention. 
If any of you want to go out 

2098
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:51,840
there and push aggressively and 
tell Julie Kelly that she should

2099
01:50:51,840 --> 01:50:54,880
jump on my program and talk with
me, I can be polite. 

2100
01:50:55,600 --> 01:50:57,200
I don't even mind if people 
offend me. 

2101
01:50:57,640 --> 01:50:59,800
I was a federal agent. 
I was a paramedic. 

2102
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:02,280
I had people tell me terrible 
things because they were in pain

2103
01:51:02,440 --> 01:51:05,080
or because they were upset about
things that were going on. 

2104
01:51:05,400 --> 01:51:08,080
I didn't 'cause their emergency.
I was trying to help it, but 

2105
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:09,480
they still blame you, 'cause 
you're the person that's there 

2106
01:51:09,480 --> 01:51:10,480
and you're not part of the 
family. 

2107
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:13,080
I've had people scream at me 
when they're massively 

2108
01:51:13,080 --> 01:51:15,920
overweight and diabetic and 
hypertensive. 

2109
01:51:16,040 --> 01:51:18,280
Family member drops dead and 
we're doing CPR and they're 

2110
01:51:18,280 --> 01:51:20,200
screaming at me. 
It's not my fault. 

2111
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:24,800
I don't take it personally. 
It turns out I do after the 

2112
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:27,480
fact, but not in the moment. 
And here I took it personally 

2113
01:51:27,480 --> 01:51:29,720
before I came on the show. 
That's what we do, We bring it 

2114
01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:30,800
on. 
I'm just going to remind you 

2115
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:32,720
that if you think that your 
opinions are the only ones, and 

2116
01:51:32,720 --> 01:51:34,920
often times I know that I'm 
correct about certain things. 

2117
01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:38,280
It's very frustrating to be 
that, but there are things that 

2118
01:51:38,280 --> 01:51:40,200
I will honestly just tell you. 
These are my opinions. 

2119
01:51:40,360 --> 01:51:43,960
It's not an opinion about how 
federal search warrants work. 

2120
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:49,680
It's not an opinion it's based 
on, it's based on experience In 

2121
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:52,840
50% of the FB is different area 
of responsibilities. 

2122
01:51:53,280 --> 01:51:57,000
I've touched, I've touched 
operations in 23 different AO 

2123
01:51:57,040 --> 01:51:58,920
Rs. 
The FBI has 56. 

2124
01:51:59,400 --> 01:52:01,840
So I have done almost 50% of 
those places. 

2125
01:52:01,840 --> 01:52:02,960
I've gone all around the 
country. 

2126
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,600
I've done them from Alaska down 
to Miami and they always have 

2127
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,880
the same rules, always the same.
That's not an emotional 

2128
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:10,320
decision. 
Doesn't mean that it ever should

2129
01:52:10,320 --> 01:52:14,680
have happened, by the way. 
So I always argue against pride,

2130
01:52:15,080 --> 01:52:16,800
including myself. 
That's, that's that's a big 

2131
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:18,280
piece that I talked to myself 
about too. 

2132
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:20,160
We got to avoid pride. 
If you guys want to support the 

2133
01:52:20,160 --> 01:52:21,640
program, I'm going to throw a 
couple up here real quick. 

2134
01:52:21,640 --> 01:52:23,480
You can go to 
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2135
01:52:23,680 --> 01:52:26,640
You can order some jerky, use 
promo code Kyle to save 20%. 

2136
01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,960
If you guys want to go to 
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2137
01:52:29,960 --> 01:52:31,960
promo code Kyle there to save up
to 50%. 

2138
01:52:32,160 --> 01:52:34,360
All great deals. 
And lastly, and I'll just 

2139
01:52:34,360 --> 01:52:37,880
squeeze it in here, 
thesuspendables.com promo code 

2140
01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:41,120
Kyle will save you a 10% over 
there and you can get your own 

2141
01:52:41,280 --> 01:52:45,640
very handsome blue Kyle Serafin 
show, the Kyle Serafin Show 

2142
01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:47,760
T-shirt if you're so inclined 
and support my buddy Garrett 

2143
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:49,840
Boyle, who had safe travels on 
the way back. 

2144
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:53,000
I want to thank Steve who is off
the line, but he'll hear this 

2145
01:52:53,000 --> 01:52:55,440
later. 
And I do appreciate people that 

2146
01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:58,200
are committed to truth. 
It's not fun to be arguing 

2147
01:52:58,200 --> 01:53:00,320
against your friends. 
That's not why we do it. 

2148
01:53:00,320 --> 01:53:02,520
We do it because we care about 
what is true and what is real, 

2149
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:05,120
and we try to humble ourselves 
in order to get to the bottom of

2150
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,400
the stuff. 
If you give the left room to 

2151
01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,720
operate, they will hold us to 
our own standards, and our own 

2152
01:53:09,720 --> 01:53:13,000
standards should be truth. 
It is all right. 

2153
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:14,320
Do I have a palate cleanser for 
today? 

2154
01:53:14,320 --> 01:53:15,520
Of course I have a palate 
cleanser. 

2155
01:53:15,520 --> 01:53:16,720
Folks, you guys want a little 
break? 

2156
01:53:16,920 --> 01:53:17,920
Here we go. 
Take a deep breath. 

2157
01:53:18,560 --> 01:53:21,160
Claimed to be the dumbest 
criminal in America. 

2158
01:53:21,160 --> 01:53:23,080
I'm going to push back on that 
after we play it. 

2159
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:24,680
Here we go. 
And I'll read you a five star 

2160
01:53:24,680 --> 01:53:26,480
just after this. 
Mr. Hello. 

2161
01:53:26,680 --> 01:53:32,080
Are you driving, Ashley? 
I'm pulling into my doctor's 

2162
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:34,320
office, actually. 
So. 

2163
01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:37,920
So just give me one second. 
I'm parking right now. 

2164
01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:42,360
You stationary? 
I'm pulling in right now at this

2165
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:44,400
second. 
Yes, I am. 

2166
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:47,520
All right. 
What are we doing? 

2167
01:53:48,160 --> 01:53:50,400
Your Honor, we are specially. 
Requesting an adjournment in 

2168
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:53,320
this matter up. 
Possibly two to four weeks that 

2169
01:53:53,320 --> 01:53:55,960
the court would allow. 
So maybe I don't understand 

2170
01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:58,520
something. 
This is a driving while license 

2171
01:53:58,520 --> 01:54:00,960
suspended. 
That is correct, Your Honor. 

2172
01:54:01,920 --> 01:54:08,400
And he was just driving and he 
didn't have a license. 

2173
01:54:09,480 --> 01:54:10,560
That's with the charges, Your 
Honor. 

2174
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,040
Yes. 
No, I'm looking at his record. 

2175
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,600
He doesn't have a license. 
He's suspended and he's just 

2176
01:54:16,600 --> 01:54:19,000
driving. 
That is correct, Your honor. 

2177
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:20,880
I don't even know why he would 
do that. 

2178
01:54:21,640 --> 01:54:24,600
So defendant's bond is revoked 
in this matter. 

2179
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:27,120
Defendant is turning himself 
into the Washington County Jail 

2180
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:30,280
by 6:00 PM today. 
Failure to turn himself in will 

2181
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,120
result in the benchmark with no 
bond. 

2182
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:37,040
This poor guy. 
Listen, let me give you a 

2183
01:54:37,040 --> 01:54:41,360
different take on this, OK? 
This man had a court appearance 

2184
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:44,120
by Zoom, and he also had a 
doctor's appointment. 

2185
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:46,320
And some of you who deal with 
doctors have told me it's very, 

2186
01:54:46,320 --> 01:54:48,720
very difficult to maintain a 
doctor's appointment if you 

2187
01:54:48,720 --> 01:54:51,040
cancel it. 
I think we should give this guy 

2188
01:54:51,040 --> 01:54:53,360
a break. 
He managed to do 2 things at 

2189
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:54,640
once. 
He kept two appointments. 

2190
01:54:54,640 --> 01:54:57,400
He was on time. 
A lot of people in this country 

2191
01:54:57,400 --> 01:54:59,640
can't make an appointment. 
He kept two appointments. 

2192
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:02,520
Come on, judge, where's the 
leniency here? 

2193
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:07,840
But let's just say, if your 
court appointment and your Zoom 

2194
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,560
arraignment is because you're 
driving without a license, it's 

2195
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,760
probably not smartest for you to
go out there and film yourself 

2196
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,480
while driving. 
Admit to the judge that you did 

2197
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:19,880
the thing that you're alleged to
have done and giving him actual 

2198
01:55:19,880 --> 01:55:22,720
evidence with his own eyes. 
It's just, that's just a 

2199
01:55:22,720 --> 01:55:26,640
facepalm moment where you go. 
Come on, man, what are you 

2200
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:28,080
doing? 
Just do it from outside. 

2201
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,080
What are you doing? 
Oh, I had a friend drop me off 

2202
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:33,760
at the doctor's office or Uber. 
As you guys said, there's a lot 

2203
01:55:33,760 --> 01:55:37,680
of options. 
Oh, well, listen, that's a 

2204
01:55:37,680 --> 01:55:40,000
tough, that's a tough situation 
for that man. 

2205
01:55:40,440 --> 01:55:43,960
But it is pretty funny. 
And somebody pointed this out to

2206
01:55:43,960 --> 01:55:46,840
me and said, listen, what if we 
didn't actually deal with 

2207
01:55:46,880 --> 01:55:50,200
fraudulent voting in 2020? 
What if there's millions and 

2208
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:53,320
millions of this guy out there? 
Are there millions of people 

2209
01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:57,920
that would do a Zoom call with a
judge on a suspended license 

2210
01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:01,520
while driving their own vehicle?
The answer is probably yes. 

2211
01:56:01,520 --> 01:56:04,400
If we're being totally honest. 
I think we just have to admit 

2212
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:05,880
that. 
Folks, if you got any comments, 

2213
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:09,000
if you got sarcastic remarks, if
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It's the little contact me part.
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I know we went a little bit 
long. 

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I think this stuff is so 
important that we understand the

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method, the rubric that we 
evaluate what it looks like for 

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truth. 
Here's our five star review of 

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the day coming from Jay Milles. 
By the way, you guys really came

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through in a huge way when when 
I asked you to come out and 

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overwhelm the algorithm. 
So keep doing it. 

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This one is five stars. 
My daily go TOS you, Dan 

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Bongino, Glenn Beck and coffee. 
Detailed, timely information I 

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can't get anywhere else. 
Thank you for your insight. 

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Thank you for your five star 
review. 

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Look forward to getting more of 
those folks. 

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Set it up, put them all up 
there. 

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Let's overwhelm this algorithm. 
We're at 980. 

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We are just on the threshold of 
crossing that 1000, which is 

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really cool. 
I feel like they were, they were

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throwing us back. 
But you guys are overwhelming it

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because a bunch of them came in 
on May 20th and 21st and 22nd. 

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So send me a few more of those 
suckers and let's push it over 

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the edge. 
And until then, we'll do 

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Friendly Friday tomorrow. 
Hope you guys have a wonderful 

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day. 
God bless you and I will see you

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again in the morning. 
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