1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,000 Take a look behind the curtain with a real whistleblower, an 2 00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,400 American patriot. Prepare to embrace the 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,880 uncomfortable truth, because this program has no time for 4 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:14,320 comforting lies. Here is civil liberties 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,240 enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI 6 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:22,320 agent Kyle Sarrif. Hello my friends. 7 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:23,560 Welcome to the Kyle Sarrif and Show. 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,000 Finally, Finally we are up and rolling. 9 00:00:26,420 --> 00:00:28,620 I'm sure it had nothing to do with us. 10 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:31,460 I'm sure it was just one of those lovely technical glitches 11 00:00:31,460 --> 00:00:34,340 that just happens to happen on occasion. 12 00:00:34,460 --> 00:00:36,500 Ryan just got back from the border so he is joining us 13 00:00:36,500 --> 00:00:38,260 today. He's trying to stream, man, we 14 00:00:38,260 --> 00:00:40,580 we tried this folks. I'm telling you, we started 15 00:00:40,580 --> 00:00:43,780 launching this thing 5 minutes before our normal time only to 16 00:00:43,780 --> 00:00:46,540 find out that we were going to be running 25 minutes late. 17 00:00:46,540 --> 00:00:49,340 As you are seeing us live now, if you are not watching our 18 00:00:49,340 --> 00:00:51,860 rumble channel and if you just happen to be tuning into the 19 00:00:51,860 --> 00:00:54,580 audio or if you're watching this on replay, what you missed was. 20 00:00:55,190 --> 00:00:58,390 A lot of mess. We saw some dark streams, we saw 21 00:00:58,390 --> 00:01:00,510 some audio only we saw some nothing. 22 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:05,030 We had to restart the stream. So many of you are seeing this 23 00:01:05,269 --> 00:01:07,510 in a weird delay. And of course we lost most of 24 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:09,550 our audience there. But so be it. 25 00:01:10,150 --> 00:01:12,830 Some of you are worried about my mood and offered me peanuts. 26 00:01:12,830 --> 00:01:17,310 I actually keep my own peanuts. I keep my own peanuts right here 27 00:01:17,310 --> 00:01:20,850 on the desk, just in case. So we are rocking and rolling 28 00:01:20,850 --> 00:01:23,330 here. It is August the 16th, it is a 29 00:01:23,330 --> 00:01:27,090 Wednesday and we are going live from Liberty Hill, TX right now, 30 00:01:27,090 --> 00:01:30,010 just about 25 minutes late. Sorry about all of those things. 31 00:01:30,010 --> 00:01:31,530 We will do our best. Again, we're going to be talking 32 00:01:31,530 --> 00:01:34,770 about counterintelligence today. I'm sure that's not a triggering 33 00:01:34,770 --> 00:01:37,970 topic for the FBI. We're going to be talking about 34 00:01:37,970 --> 00:01:40,330 counterintelligence agents, what they do. 35 00:01:40,850 --> 00:01:42,170 What kind of cases have been run? 36 00:01:42,170 --> 00:01:44,610 Couple of them that are notable that have been prosecuted 37 00:01:44,610 --> 00:01:46,450 already that I can talk about. We're going to go through the 38 00:01:46,450 --> 00:01:49,130 indictment of Charles Mcgonigle. We're going to be talking about 39 00:01:49,330 --> 00:01:52,370 the one that he just pled guilty to and what he has not pled 40 00:01:52,370 --> 00:01:53,850 guilty to yet. And we'll find out what that's 41 00:01:53,850 --> 00:01:56,610 all about. It seems like the media it tends 42 00:01:56,610 --> 00:01:59,490 to either be distracted by shiny objects or they are running top 43 00:01:59,490 --> 00:02:03,210 cover and I can't tell which. Either one is plausible in this 44 00:02:03,210 --> 00:02:06,170 sort of mainstream media Operation Mockingbird scenario, 45 00:02:06,370 --> 00:02:09,910 something that that seems to be. Seems to be going on with a lot 46 00:02:09,910 --> 00:02:11,430 of this stuff. I'm seeing a lot of media 47 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:13,870 obsession with things that are not the real story. 48 00:02:13,990 --> 00:02:15,710 So we're going to dig into that just a little bit. 49 00:02:15,990 --> 00:02:19,990 And we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about the 50 00:02:19,990 --> 00:02:26,590 contrast of the previously top FBI violator of the oath, let's 51 00:02:26,590 --> 00:02:28,990 say in in Robert Hansen. All right. 52 00:02:29,270 --> 00:02:31,510 Before we do that, let's say thanks to Catholic Vote, those 53 00:02:31,510 --> 00:02:32,950 people are keeping the lights on here. 54 00:02:32,950 --> 00:02:35,630 And you know what's fun? Catholic Vote actually had a 55 00:02:35,630 --> 00:02:38,270 mishap this morning as well. There is no loop. 56 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:42,300 In my e-mail, despite the fact that I promised you a loop every 57 00:02:42,300 --> 00:02:45,660 day, if you sign up for the loop, there's no loop in the 58 00:02:45,660 --> 00:02:47,660 e-mail. And I went into the Slack chat 59 00:02:47,660 --> 00:02:49,580 for the Catholic Vote folks. I have an e-mail address with 60 00:02:49,580 --> 00:02:52,500 them and I I get to peripherally be involved in the organization. 61 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:55,100 And I looked in there and there were 20 people saying, where's 62 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:56,660 the loop? So in the same way that you were 63 00:02:56,660 --> 00:02:58,260 wondering, where's the Kyle Sarafin show? 64 00:02:58,940 --> 00:02:59,940 They were wondering, where's the loop? 65 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:01,740 Here they are. Check them out. 66 00:03:02,070 --> 00:03:03,070 You'll get the loop tomorrow, I guess. 67 00:03:03,070 --> 00:03:04,310 Maybe it'll come later on in the day. 68 00:03:04,310 --> 00:03:06,430 Maybe you can sign up in time to get today's loop. 69 00:03:06,430 --> 00:03:09,350 Go to catholicvote.org, Catholic vote. 70 00:03:09,910 --> 00:03:13,110 That's VOTE catholicvote.org. Put in your e-mail address, your 71 00:03:13,110 --> 00:03:15,030 name, your zip code, and get the e-mail. 72 00:03:15,150 --> 00:03:17,870 When they send it. And they blamed it on a new guy, 73 00:03:17,870 --> 00:03:20,110 that's what they're saying. New guy was running the 74 00:03:20,110 --> 00:03:23,390 scheduling program and it failed to send, so maybe it will send a 75 00:03:23,390 --> 00:03:25,590 little bit later in the day. That being said. 76 00:03:25,950 --> 00:03:27,870 Great people. We do appreciate them and we're 77 00:03:27,870 --> 00:03:30,870 going to have some new promos for our friends over at Patriot 78 00:03:30,870 --> 00:03:31,990 Coolers, but check them out as well. 79 00:03:31,990 --> 00:03:35,470 Go to patriotcoolers.com. Use promo code Kyle Kyle. 80 00:03:35,470 --> 00:03:37,990 Promo code Kyle, get you 10% off. 81 00:03:38,230 --> 00:03:40,190 There's some of the cool stuff that they have as far as the 82 00:03:40,190 --> 00:03:41,750 first responder and veteran gifts. 83 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:46,750 Good looking flags specific to EMS, to law enforcement, to 84 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:48,350 those who have been in the military. 85 00:03:48,990 --> 00:03:50,630 Here is one of my Patriot coolers. 86 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:52,590 My wife loaded this one up. This one's got a sticker of my 87 00:03:52,590 --> 00:03:54,070 buddy Soft Unit over in the Air Force. 88 00:03:54,510 --> 00:03:56,870 That's my dead air sticker because I like dead air. 89 00:03:56,870 --> 00:03:59,990 Suppressors rolled with me in a lot of states. 90 00:03:59,990 --> 00:04:01,950 That thing has been with me probably in 18 or 20 different 91 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:04,310 states, Maybe more at this point because I take a Patriot cooler 92 00:04:04,310 --> 00:04:06,270 with me when I travel. Use promo code, Kyle. 93 00:04:06,270 --> 00:04:09,270 Get your own promo code. Kyle gets you a 10% off free 94 00:04:09,270 --> 00:04:10,790 shipping over 50 bucks. You guys know the deal. 95 00:04:10,790 --> 00:04:12,790 All right. See a lot of you guys sending 96 00:04:12,790 --> 00:04:15,950 the the Super chats over there, sending the rumble rants. 97 00:04:16,149 --> 00:04:18,709 Baby's going to get new shoes. Baby is not here yet, folks. 98 00:04:18,790 --> 00:04:20,850 Baby is pending. The baby is pending. 99 00:04:20,850 --> 00:04:22,530 Let's go ahead and launch into the show here. 100 00:04:22,530 --> 00:04:26,530 Without any further ado, let's talk about Operation Grey Day, 101 00:04:27,410 --> 00:04:32,530 which was the Robert Hanson case and code name Werewolf, which 102 00:04:32,530 --> 00:04:34,770 sounds really lame. Will you bring up topic #1, 103 00:04:34,770 --> 00:04:38,250 Ryan, and let's rock'n'roll. This was an article that was 104 00:04:38,250 --> 00:04:42,250 written on spyscape.com. You can see their generic sort 105 00:04:42,250 --> 00:04:46,810 of just footage of FBI agents moving things out of a box. 106 00:04:46,810 --> 00:04:48,170 I don't know why they always think people are taking. 107 00:04:48,290 --> 00:04:49,650 Why would you take a computer monitor? 108 00:04:50,130 --> 00:04:52,290 It's a silly picture that looks staged on every level. 109 00:04:52,410 --> 00:04:54,690 There is nothing in the computer monitor that we are taking. 110 00:04:54,690 --> 00:04:55,890 I don't need that computer monitor. 111 00:04:56,370 --> 00:04:59,650 This is the story of of FBI agent Eric O'Neill, who was 112 00:04:59,650 --> 00:05:00,970 recruited when he was a new agent. 113 00:05:00,970 --> 00:05:02,050 What are the stories that happened? 114 00:05:02,050 --> 00:05:04,290 What are the issues that happened when you have a mole 115 00:05:04,290 --> 00:05:06,370 hunt internally? Is that you got to figure out? 116 00:05:06,490 --> 00:05:09,900 Is there a way? To get involved with the agent 117 00:05:09,940 --> 00:05:12,900 who is in fact selling out the FBI without alerting them. 118 00:05:13,060 --> 00:05:15,660 And generally speaking the problem is, is that they're they 119 00:05:15,660 --> 00:05:17,980 usually have a lot of friends. I know that Charlie Mcgonigal 120 00:05:17,980 --> 00:05:19,780 situation was a lot of people owed him favors. 121 00:05:19,980 --> 00:05:23,020 A lot of people owed him some pieces of their career. 122 00:05:23,260 --> 00:05:25,940 As we heard from our friend Steve Gray on this very program, 123 00:05:25,940 --> 00:05:28,180 Steve Gray who used to work with him both at headquarters and the 124 00:05:28,180 --> 00:05:31,860 New York field office. Steve said that Charlie 125 00:05:31,860 --> 00:05:34,060 Mcgonigal was really big on collecting favors. 126 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:37,270 What he would do is he would find a disciplinary action that 127 00:05:37,270 --> 00:05:41,030 should have been taken and he would kind of give that person 128 00:05:41,030 --> 00:05:43,710 to pass, knowing that they would owe him something in the future. 129 00:05:44,150 --> 00:05:46,430 And that can be a good management technique. 130 00:05:46,430 --> 00:05:49,270 It can be shady. In the case of Mcgonigal, it 131 00:05:49,270 --> 00:05:50,790 sounds like it was nothing but shadiness. 132 00:05:50,990 --> 00:05:54,510 So if if we Scroll down through this article, what we find out 133 00:05:54,510 --> 00:05:56,310 is that they basically went out and recruited this guy Eric 134 00:05:56,310 --> 00:05:58,950 O'Neill and they gave him code name Werewolf because of 135 00:05:58,950 --> 00:06:01,350 apparently something he did at the Quantico bar. 136 00:06:01,910 --> 00:06:06,270 Many, many careers launched with shady stories at the boardroom, 137 00:06:06,270 --> 00:06:07,950 as they call it, the bar at Quantico. 138 00:06:08,270 --> 00:06:11,430 Apparently this guy was throwing his head back and howling at the 139 00:06:11,430 --> 00:06:12,950 moon. So that gave him this, this 140 00:06:13,070 --> 00:06:16,550 nickname of werewolf. And and then Grade A was the 141 00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:19,750 call sign for the case. And the reason I tell you the 142 00:06:19,750 --> 00:06:23,190 call sign specifically is that everybody in the FBI thinks that 143 00:06:23,190 --> 00:06:25,510 they're doing really cool stuff catching spies. 144 00:06:25,750 --> 00:06:27,630 They all want to have code name cases. 145 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:32,400 And, you know, it's things like angry snail or, you know, fiery 146 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,880 squirrel. They have these silly things. 147 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:35,360 They have lists. I've seen them. 148 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:38,400 There's automatic generated case names that you can have and the 149 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,160 computer spits them out. Or what they'll have is agents 150 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,680 will just sit around when they're doing nothing because 151 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,400 it's standard federal work. And they will literally like 152 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:47,200 game out. What will be the code name of my 153 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:49,680 cool case that I get and how? And you know what sounds the 154 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,600 coolest? It's as nerdy as you think it 155 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,920 is. I mean, it literally is as nerdy 156 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,600 as it sounds. So Operation Gray Day was. 157 00:06:57,220 --> 00:07:01,140 Was the the, the operation that went against O'Neill. 158 00:07:01,300 --> 00:07:04,020 Here's the other funny thing, everybody always wants to trump 159 00:07:04,020 --> 00:07:05,820 up their capabilities. We're going to be having a 160 00:07:05,820 --> 00:07:08,180 really interesting interview and I hopefully this not interrupted 161 00:07:08,180 --> 00:07:10,340 by some of the weird technical glitches we had today. 162 00:07:10,460 --> 00:07:13,940 We're going to be interviewing somebody in Moscow this 163 00:07:13,940 --> 00:07:15,540 afternoon. Ryan and I will and we'll try to 164 00:07:15,540 --> 00:07:18,660 play it for you tomorrow. That's going to be the plan and. 165 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:22,340 The surveillance specialists that work for the FBI, I was an 166 00:07:22,340 --> 00:07:24,780 agent specialist. We call them SOG, or the Special 167 00:07:24,780 --> 00:07:26,340 Operations Group. They used to be called Mobile 168 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:28,620 Surveillance. Something Mobile Surveillance 169 00:07:28,620 --> 00:07:30,660 team. ARM Mobile Surveillance Team not 170 00:07:30,660 --> 00:07:32,140 armed. They have these different names. 171 00:07:32,220 --> 00:07:33,460 There are two different varieties of it. 172 00:07:33,460 --> 00:07:35,180 Some of them are armed, they're agents, some of them are 173 00:07:35,180 --> 00:07:37,580 security specialists or surveillance specialists and 174 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:39,220 they love to call themselves the Ghosts. 175 00:07:39,220 --> 00:07:40,780 I've seen this in multiple different articles. 176 00:07:40,900 --> 00:07:43,220 By the way, nobody in the FBI calls them Ghosts. 177 00:07:43,460 --> 00:07:47,540 They're known as SSG and they are a mixture of young capable 178 00:07:47,540 --> 00:07:50,300 people who have no work experience that go to a like a 179 00:07:50,300 --> 00:07:52,500 12 week surveillance course. And they learn how to follow 180 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:54,980 people around that aren't armed and are not dangerous, and 181 00:07:54,980 --> 00:07:57,100 theoretically they're just gathering intelligence on them. 182 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,240 And then the other group of them are people that are armed. 183 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,280 We have a much shorter Academy because surveillance is actually 184 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,960 kind of part of the the the regular FBI Academy. 185 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 And so we go through and we follow people that are armed and 186 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:07,880 and people that are potentially dangerous. 187 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,480 And so we can have national security targets on occasion, 188 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,040 generally not. But if you happen to have like, 189 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,560 let's say a Green Beret who's doing something and and giving 190 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,800 away information, that's just something off the top of my head 191 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:20,320 that I remember we worked. If you have another law 192 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,880 enforcement officer that's involved in potentially doing 193 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,500 some national security. Failings. 194 00:08:25,500 --> 00:08:27,540 If they work for another agency, if they work for the FBI, then 195 00:08:27,540 --> 00:08:31,020 you'd tend to get the you'd end up with the agents on it because 196 00:08:31,020 --> 00:08:32,500 that person may actually have a gun. 197 00:08:33,659 --> 00:08:34,900 But they love to call these people ghosts. 198 00:08:34,900 --> 00:08:36,260 They like to have these cool case names. 199 00:08:36,260 --> 00:08:38,500 And I'm saying all this because a lot of this stuff is cosplay. 200 00:08:38,620 --> 00:08:41,020 If you've listened to the show, you know that a lot of what the 201 00:08:41,020 --> 00:08:45,180 FBI does is federal law enforcement cosplay and the 202 00:08:45,180 --> 00:08:48,020 danger of cosplay that has real guns. 203 00:08:48,350 --> 00:08:51,270 With this sort of silly attitude and this danger is that or this 204 00:08:51,350 --> 00:08:54,790 sort of loose grip on what it is that they're actually doing, is 205 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:56,790 that sometimes they actually do get into the real scenario. 206 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:59,110 And if you were following the chat and our our previous 207 00:08:59,110 --> 00:09:02,590 stream, which we had to reboot, Gerda Boyle came in and told us 208 00:09:02,590 --> 00:09:07,590 that his friends who are in Memphis got an e-mail today, the 209 00:09:07,590 --> 00:09:09,750 FBI has killed yet another person. 210 00:09:10,830 --> 00:09:13,790 It'll probably be justified. That's usually how it works. 211 00:09:14,270 --> 00:09:16,910 It's almost always justified when the SWAT teams get into a 212 00:09:16,910 --> 00:09:18,650 shooting. But the question should really 213 00:09:18,650 --> 00:09:21,370 be, are they provoking it through some of this cosplay by 214 00:09:21,370 --> 00:09:23,850 showing up and kicking down doors, like they think there's 215 00:09:23,850 --> 00:09:26,050 some sort of elite counterterrorism for. 216 00:09:26,050 --> 00:09:28,690 So they're, you know, they're, they're SEAL Team 6 overseas. 217 00:09:28,970 --> 00:09:31,250 Why are we going into these houses at 06 AM? 218 00:09:31,250 --> 00:09:32,810 It never made sense at the Academy. 219 00:09:32,890 --> 00:09:36,210 In fact, the legal instructors that I had, a guy named Mike 220 00:09:36,210 --> 00:09:38,210 Bulzomi who was kind of legendary for sitting at the 221 00:09:38,210 --> 00:09:40,730 Academy forever, he was one of those great presenters. 222 00:09:40,970 --> 00:09:44,090 He said, why is it that we always go into houses at 6:00 223 00:09:44,250 --> 00:09:46,090 AM? And the answer he answered his 224 00:09:46,090 --> 00:09:48,390 own question was. Because. 225 00:09:49,390 --> 00:09:52,710 Because that's what we've always done, because the FBI gets 226 00:09:52,710 --> 00:09:55,030 involved in doing the same thing that they've always done. 227 00:09:55,270 --> 00:09:59,070 That's cosplay that is playing instead of adapting to modern 228 00:09:59,070 --> 00:10:01,070 techniques. Whereas most SWAT teams are now 229 00:10:01,070 --> 00:10:03,910 involved in surrounding call out, the FBI is still kicking 230 00:10:03,910 --> 00:10:07,030 down doors and going after people and and it's incredibly 231 00:10:07,030 --> 00:10:08,630 dangerous. And of course it's resulted in 232 00:10:08,630 --> 00:10:11,230 in the last seven days, literally today is Wednesday. 233 00:10:11,310 --> 00:10:13,550 So in the last seven days we have had three people killed by 234 00:10:13,550 --> 00:10:15,770 the FBI. And I would not be surprised to 235 00:10:15,770 --> 00:10:17,530 find more of this. Part of that is the political 236 00:10:17,530 --> 00:10:19,850 culture that we have going on and part of it is because they 237 00:10:19,850 --> 00:10:22,730 won't adapt their techniques. So we'll talk a little further 238 00:10:22,730 --> 00:10:24,370 about Hanson here. If you guys don't know the story 239 00:10:24,370 --> 00:10:28,010 of Robert Hanson, he started spying on the FBI for the 240 00:10:28,010 --> 00:10:31,010 Russians at least as early as 1985 and he got people killed. 241 00:10:31,410 --> 00:10:34,250 He was giving information over the K GB and he continued doing 242 00:10:34,250 --> 00:10:38,090 this after the fall of the Soviet Union under the the the 243 00:10:38,090 --> 00:10:42,370 Russian Federation. He killed. 244 00:10:42,370 --> 00:10:45,540 He like, got people killed. And he kept doing this for his 245 00:10:45,540 --> 00:10:47,740 whole career. And the reason that they ended 246 00:10:47,740 --> 00:10:50,220 up having this rush is because they were afraid he was going to 247 00:10:50,220 --> 00:10:52,340 be able to retire before they were able to get him. 248 00:10:52,460 --> 00:10:56,340 Does that sound familiar? It should sound familiar because 249 00:10:56,340 --> 00:10:59,500 a story of Charlie Mcgonigal is they didn't get him until after. 250 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:01,820 They didn't get him until much further after. 251 00:11:01,820 --> 00:11:03,020 He was already outside of the FBI. 252 00:11:03,820 --> 00:11:06,620 Are we not concerned about this? Let's go on to the topic #2 253 00:11:06,620 --> 00:11:07,540 here. This is the the story. 254 00:11:07,540 --> 00:11:08,940 Robert Hanson died in prison, folks. 255 00:11:09,940 --> 00:11:13,380 That's what it comes down to. Okay he. 256 00:11:14,290 --> 00:11:16,330 He died in prison. And the only way that they were 257 00:11:16,330 --> 00:11:19,170 able to catch him was after almost 20 years of him leaking 258 00:11:19,170 --> 00:11:22,850 top secrets, top secret information to the Russians. 259 00:11:23,650 --> 00:11:26,170 The the FBI is not good at this, you know. 260 00:11:26,370 --> 00:11:28,170 And this is the thing that should most, most people should 261 00:11:28,170 --> 00:11:30,890 be most concerned about. They have this is telling you 262 00:11:30,890 --> 00:11:34,130 that in December of 2000, there's this FBI agent, Richard 263 00:11:34,130 --> 00:11:36,090 Garcia. He gets a visit from somebody at 264 00:11:36,090 --> 00:11:39,010 the Russia desk saying, hey, hey, you know Robert Hanson, you 265 00:11:39,010 --> 00:11:40,890 know him no good, because you're about to. 266 00:11:41,010 --> 00:11:43,010 They had to literally go through the Bureau and find people that 267 00:11:43,010 --> 00:11:45,330 didn't know the guy. In order to do this operation, 268 00:11:45,890 --> 00:11:47,810 what you're seeing on the screen right now is that is reporting 269 00:11:47,810 --> 00:11:50,330 from the BBC that they're letting us know that, you know, 270 00:11:50,330 --> 00:11:51,930 this is an old case. Obviously this happened, but 271 00:11:51,930 --> 00:11:54,930 they're still reporting on it because we're dealing with the 272 00:11:55,050 --> 00:11:58,010 the new story of our man, Charlie Mcgonigal. 273 00:11:58,130 --> 00:11:59,770 Will you pull up? I'm going to skip ahead a little 274 00:11:59,770 --> 00:12:01,250 bit here. Will you pull up the New York 275 00:12:01,250 --> 00:12:03,010 indictment? That is going to be topic #5. 276 00:12:03,010 --> 00:12:04,530 I want to read from the New York indictment, folks. 277 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,640 This is the one that we just heard that just got pled out. 278 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,280 He's facing up to five years based on what he pled to. 279 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:11,920 But I want to read the indictment here and what it does 280 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,080 and what it doesn't say because the media is covering this like 281 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,680 this is all of the the case over Charlie Mcgonigal. 282 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,880 They're acting like this is the entirety of what went down and 283 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,200 that he's now going to be just facing the sentencing. 284 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,720 That is not the case. All right, So let's bring this 285 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:28,400 up here. So Charles Mcgonigal and his 286 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:29,840 codefendant, whose name was Sergey. 287 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,240 Let me try this again. Shostovskov. 288 00:12:33,370 --> 00:12:37,370 Shit, Stahkov. Sorry Sergei, I'm going to Jack 289 00:12:37,370 --> 00:12:39,450 your name up but doesn't sound like you're a great guy. 290 00:12:40,290 --> 00:12:41,610 Mcgonigle. Obviously former senior 291 00:12:41,610 --> 00:12:43,250 official. He was the the special agent in 292 00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:45,290 charge of counterintelligence at the New York field office 293 00:12:45,570 --> 00:12:48,890 dealing with with CI cases. Literally in charge of running 294 00:12:48,890 --> 00:12:50,890 spy anti spy operations in New York. 295 00:12:51,290 --> 00:12:55,650 And and his his comrade here. Sergei was a former Soviet and 296 00:12:55,650 --> 00:12:58,490 Russian diplomat going all the way back until like I think 297 00:12:58,490 --> 00:13:00,370 1979. It's actually listed here in the 298 00:13:00,370 --> 00:13:03,010 indictment. And the story goes like this. 299 00:13:03,810 --> 00:13:07,090 They're buddies. And he's approached, they say, 300 00:13:07,090 --> 00:13:10,210 beginning in 2016 until his retirement, he served as a 301 00:13:10,210 --> 00:13:12,970 special agent in charge of New York's counterintelligence 302 00:13:12,970 --> 00:13:14,530 division. But before that, he was working 303 00:13:14,530 --> 00:13:16,690 at headquarters with our friend Steve Gray. 304 00:13:16,930 --> 00:13:18,570 And he was working in some other places. 305 00:13:18,690 --> 00:13:20,250 He worked Russian counterintelligence. 306 00:13:20,250 --> 00:13:23,610 He was working all the cases that were out of there and so. 307 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,960 He had access to all of the information, classified lists of 308 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:29,440 Russian oligarchs who had ties to the Kremlin, people who are 309 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,880 being considered for sanctions going back to the 2014 310 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:36,240 international agreement that the US signed on to to to ban 311 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,320 transactions by these by these oligarchs. 312 00:13:39,660 --> 00:13:42,260 And and his buddy started working for the Soviet Union in 313 00:13:42,260 --> 00:13:46,700 1979, retired from the Russian Federation in 1993, end up 314 00:13:46,780 --> 00:13:49,100 living in Connecticut in the United States, becoming a 315 00:13:49,100 --> 00:13:50,820 naturalized citizen. Some of that's kind of 316 00:13:50,820 --> 00:13:52,340 interesting. And then the other piece of it 317 00:13:52,340 --> 00:13:54,300 that I found very interesting in this indictment, which I'm not 318 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,020 hearing a whole lot about, is the fact that this guy was 319 00:13:56,020 --> 00:13:58,300 working as a translator in the federal court system. 320 00:13:58,940 --> 00:14:01,380 I'm sure he speaks great Russian and English. 321 00:14:02,190 --> 00:14:04,310 But we don't have any problem with a guy that had loyalties 322 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:07,910 and worked on behalf of the USSR and then the Russian Federation 323 00:14:08,070 --> 00:14:10,230 coming and working in the US court system and working for the 324 00:14:10,230 --> 00:14:12,310 United States Attorney's office in the Southern and Eastern 325 00:14:12,310 --> 00:14:13,830 District of New York. You want to talk about 326 00:14:13,830 --> 00:14:15,070 penetration? This is what it looks like. 327 00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:17,030 Some of it is a self induced wound. 328 00:14:17,310 --> 00:14:18,990 We allow these people to come in and do work. 329 00:14:19,910 --> 00:14:21,950 I don't know how well the the vetting process works, but 330 00:14:21,950 --> 00:14:24,190 apparently it doesn't work enough to keep a guy who's at 331 00:14:24,190 --> 00:14:26,110 the top of the counterintelligence pool. 332 00:14:27,140 --> 00:14:28,860 For the New York field office, which is the biggest field 333 00:14:28,860 --> 00:14:31,380 office in the FBI, they they refer to themselves as as the 334 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:33,900 most important. They are right, you know, neck 335 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:36,020 and neck with Washington field office only because Washington 336 00:14:36,020 --> 00:14:38,540 has all the stuff that goes on in Washington. 337 00:14:39,060 --> 00:14:41,220 All the embassies and all the consulates are in New York and 338 00:14:41,220 --> 00:14:43,510 so on. So the the Russian that he's 339 00:14:43,510 --> 00:14:46,030 accused of dealing with his O log Deripaska, he's Russian 340 00:14:46,030 --> 00:14:47,550 national. He's referred to as an oligarch 341 00:14:47,550 --> 00:14:50,550 meaning a lot of wealth and close ties to the Russian state. 342 00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:53,310 I'm I'm just scanning here through this indictment for you 343 00:14:53,310 --> 00:14:55,510 guys to understand what they actually alleged. 344 00:14:55,670 --> 00:14:57,430 Here's the actual sanctions we're talking about 345 00:14:57,430 --> 00:15:00,510 International Emergency Economic Powers Act, the i.e. 346 00:15:00,510 --> 00:15:04,950 EPA Codified under Title 50 of the United States Code, Section 347 00:15:04,950 --> 00:15:08,280 1701 through 08. And they confer authority on the 348 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,360 president to deal with basically unusual and extraordinary 349 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:13,240 threats to national security and foreign policy. 350 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 They allow them to basically outlaw the movement of monies 351 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:20,160 and and and certain interests, financial interests, to people 352 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:21,760 that are deemed threats to the state. 353 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:26,560 They did this in 2014 under Obama when he failed to handle 354 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:31,520 Ukraine and Russia properly, and they had the first Russian grab 355 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:35,480 of Ukrainian territories. So this actually all kind of 356 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:37,320 runs together in what's going on now. 357 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,920 This was an emergency order by the president blocked all 358 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,800 property and interests that were going to be coming within the 359 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:45,680 United States and therefore within the possession of control 360 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:48,160 of the United States person. OK, this is where we're going. 361 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,280 the United States person, in this case, Charlie Mcgonigal, 362 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,520 probably also dealing with his buddy Sergey. 363 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:56,640 So the executive order produced the the distribution 364 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,440 contribution of funds, goods, or services to, for, or by the 365 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,800 benefit of any person whose property or interest are on the 366 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:04,600 block list. In this case, Deripaska. 367 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,760 All right. So that's the that's the the the 368 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:10,280 statute that's in play. That is the the allegation that 369 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,160 he was basically in violation of. 370 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:18,160 And what they do say is that he was connected to and moving 371 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:25,040 money around on behalf of this this this guy, Sergey, which was 372 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,280 benefiting this prohibited person. 373 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:28,840 They they have all these different things. 374 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,480 Deripaska was listed as Agent One. 375 00:16:31,220 --> 00:16:33,500 I'm sorry, he was an agent of Deripaska, not actually 376 00:16:33,620 --> 00:16:36,060 Deripaska specifically, but some of the stuff that's in here is 377 00:16:36,060 --> 00:16:38,580 pretty wild, says. In 2019, he'd already retired 378 00:16:38,580 --> 00:16:42,660 from the FBI, sought to retain law enforcement work under 379 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:45,300 sanctions. He was trying to get Deripaska 380 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:48,380 delisted from that, that particular sanctions document, 381 00:16:48,540 --> 00:16:53,940 trying to keep him from having this financial, this financial 382 00:16:53,940 --> 00:16:55,500 block that the United States had on him. 383 00:16:55,620 --> 00:16:57,300 And the other thing he was trying to do is he was trying to 384 00:16:57,300 --> 00:17:01,130 get the FBI to investigate. Deripaska's rival and find out 385 00:17:01,130 --> 00:17:06,210 where he had $500 million set. That seems like a real problem, 386 00:17:06,450 --> 00:17:09,890 trying to use the United States federal resources and you're 387 00:17:09,890 --> 00:17:13,089 abusing your position inside the FBI in the counterintelligence 388 00:17:13,089 --> 00:17:14,970 field where you had access to see everything. 389 00:17:15,810 --> 00:17:19,050 He wanted to use that to go find Deripaska's rivals money. 390 00:17:20,050 --> 00:17:23,170 So there's an engagement letter here between this law firm and 391 00:17:23,170 --> 00:17:27,250 Deripaska saying that he's going to pay the law firm $175,000 per 392 00:17:27,250 --> 00:17:30,640 month. $25,000 currently earmarked for certain other 393 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,000 professionals. These are direct quotes. 394 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,520 The law firm then retained Mcgonigal Okay. 395 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,120 So you see the cut out we're talking about? 396 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,880 He's going through the law firm. End of the day. 397 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,520 He ends up pleading guilty to this. 398 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,680 He pleads guilty to violation of that sanction. 399 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,560 He ends up pleading guilty to money laundering charges which 400 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,400 may result in up to five years in prison. 401 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,640 But what you're hearing the media say, what you're hearing 402 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:56,640 them say? Is that somehow this actually is 403 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,400 the totality of the case. What we heard was this really 404 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:03,200 solicious story about an Albanian former intelligence 405 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:07,960 official bringing bags of cash to an FBI special agent in 406 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,240 charge in New York. You remember that story? 407 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,720 That's the story that we keep hearing about. 408 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,800 That's the way the media is covering this story. 409 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,800 And those charges have not been pled to yet. 410 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,080 So you're getting this false story if you'll bring up. 411 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,570 Let me see, where's the? Breaking 911. 412 00:18:21,610 --> 00:18:23,250 Bring up a topic #4, if you would. 413 00:18:23,250 --> 00:18:24,890 Let's bring that article up because I want you to see how 414 00:18:24,890 --> 00:18:27,050 it's covered and what it didn't, what it didn't cover. 415 00:18:27,250 --> 00:18:31,810 So this is breaking911.com. This is the basic story that 416 00:18:31,810 --> 00:18:33,930 you've heard. And what they're saying is, is 417 00:18:33,930 --> 00:18:36,170 that he pled guilty to money laundering connections in his 418 00:18:36,170 --> 00:18:39,850 2021 agreement, provided services to Deripaska, this 419 00:18:39,850 --> 00:18:42,170 Russian oligarch, blah blah blah, they say here. 420 00:18:42,170 --> 00:18:44,130 Here's the United States Attorney Damian Williams saying. 421 00:18:44,770 --> 00:18:48,450 After his tenure as a highlevel FBI official who supervised and 422 00:18:48,450 --> 00:18:51,010 participated in investigations of Russian oligarchs, Charles 423 00:18:51,010 --> 00:18:53,650 Mcgonigal has now admitted that he agreed to evade U.S. 424 00:18:53,650 --> 00:18:56,370 sanctions by providing services to one of those oligarchs, Ola 425 00:18:56,370 --> 00:18:59,130 Dare Pasco. This office will continue to 426 00:18:59,130 --> 00:19:03,690 hold those hold to account those who violate U.S. sanctions for 427 00:19:03,690 --> 00:19:07,290 their own financial benefits. Okay Fine, the special agent 428 00:19:07,290 --> 00:19:10,330 charged in in New York. The sorry, the assistant 429 00:19:10,330 --> 00:19:12,050 director in charge over there says something like. 430 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:14,300 Economic sanctions are a critical component of US 431 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:16,380 National Security. They must be fully and fairly 432 00:19:16,380 --> 00:19:18,020 applied. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 433 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:20,860 He tried to evade these serious criminal offense by entering a 434 00:19:20,860 --> 00:19:23,340 guilty plea. He's accepted responsibility for 435 00:19:23,340 --> 00:19:25,540 his actions. They are now committed to 436 00:19:25,540 --> 00:19:28,100 rigorously investigating and reporting sanctions violations. 437 00:19:28,140 --> 00:19:30,060 OK, so everybody did the right thing. 438 00:19:30,220 --> 00:19:33,420 Everybody's an honorable person. Where do you hear in that about 439 00:19:33,420 --> 00:19:38,340 the $225,000 that was that was alleged to be handed over in 440 00:19:38,340 --> 00:19:40,780 $85,000 increments? You hear anything about it in 441 00:19:40,780 --> 00:19:43,130 there? There's some back story here 442 00:19:43,410 --> 00:19:45,130 about the the, the case in the indictment. 443 00:19:45,490 --> 00:19:48,770 None of those things have anything to do with what is 444 00:19:48,770 --> 00:19:53,650 going on with the 225, the Albanian and the trips to Kosovo 445 00:19:53,650 --> 00:19:57,730 and so on that we talked about on Monday, right? 446 00:19:58,050 --> 00:20:00,050 None of those things are what our interview with Alison 447 00:20:00,050 --> 00:20:01,530 Guerrero was talking about. None of them. 448 00:20:02,250 --> 00:20:04,730 And that's because there's a there's a second indictment and 449 00:20:04,730 --> 00:20:08,330 the other indictment is sitting in the District of District of 450 00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:11,650 Columbia. So let's pull that up. 451 00:20:12,410 --> 00:20:16,610 That is going to be topic number six, my friend, if you'll pull 452 00:20:16,610 --> 00:20:19,810 up that indictment, that's where the real dirty stuff comes in. 453 00:20:19,810 --> 00:20:22,090 But I what I'm wondering is, are we going to hear more about this 454 00:20:22,130 --> 00:20:26,250 or only are we only going to see the the hidden materials? 455 00:20:26,250 --> 00:20:28,930 Are we going to try to see a media cover that says, look, 456 00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:30,690 it's over, it's old news, he's already pled guilty. 457 00:20:30,690 --> 00:20:32,610 So it's going on. You know, we're going to hear 458 00:20:32,610 --> 00:20:35,850 over and over again about President Donald Trump and the 459 00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:38,070 things that he was involved in, but we are not going to hear 460 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:40,630 probably much about this one. And in this case, this is yet 461 00:20:40,630 --> 00:20:43,470 another ridiculous piece. He's charged with 1001 462 00:20:43,470 --> 00:20:47,750 concealment of material facts, 1001 false statements and 1519 463 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:49,590 falsification of a record or document. 464 00:20:49,910 --> 00:20:53,870 Do you hear anything in there about the receiving of money and 465 00:20:54,070 --> 00:20:58,270 using his position for influence or going out and attempting to 466 00:20:58,270 --> 00:21:02,670 abuse his authorities as an FBI senior counterintelligence 467 00:21:02,670 --> 00:21:04,390 official? Because I don't, not in this 468 00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:07,190 particular piece. Let's let's go into the the the 469 00:21:07,190 --> 00:21:10,350 facts here, because I think the facts that they record do not 470 00:21:10,550 --> 00:21:14,670 get reflected very often in what we in in what we just heard 471 00:21:14,670 --> 00:21:17,750 there. Count 1 beginning no later than 472 00:21:17,750 --> 00:21:22,270 August 2017, continuing thereafter to at least May 6th 473 00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:24,390 of 2019. By the way that and covers the 474 00:21:24,390 --> 00:21:26,590 time before he retired he was working for the FBI. 475 00:21:26,590 --> 00:21:29,750 There, Charles Mcgonigal did knowingly and willingly falsely 476 00:21:29,750 --> 00:21:33,310 conceal or cover and cover up by trick, scheme or device material 477 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:38,120 Facts, namely, consistently held aspects of his relationship with 478 00:21:38,120 --> 00:21:42,560 Person A that he had a duty to disclose, to create an actual 479 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,480 and an apparent conflict of interest between his official 480 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,400 FBI duties and his private interests, including that he 481 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,160 accepted more than $225,000 from Person A. 482 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,360 They're charging him with concealing material facts, a 483 00:21:54,360 --> 00:21:58,600 1001, a very, very light felony. This is the same as lying to the 484 00:21:58,600 --> 00:21:59,800 FBI. That's what they're going to 485 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,560 accuse him of. What about the money he traveled 486 00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:05,800 to Europe with Person A? He had ongoing foreign 487 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,440 relationships with foreign nationals that you are required 488 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,280 to disclose. There's just one count here. 489 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,640 When we see things going after President Trump, they want to 490 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:15,960 charge him for every single statement that he made as a 491 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 false statement. And in this case, we have years 492 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,480 of false statements that were put out by Charlie Mcgonigal and 493 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,160 money and illicit travel. None of those things make any 494 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,560 sense. And he's getting a false 495 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,720 statement charge. He's getting a 1001 violation 496 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,720 charge. I'm going to give you the actual 497 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,280 execution of the scheme here. This goes on to this is 498 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,320 paragraph 18 says no later than August 2017, defendant Mcgonigal 499 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,080 met with person A again. This is the Albanian 500 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,360 intelligence officer required and inquired whether person A 501 00:22:46,360 --> 00:22:50,960 could provide him with money. In September of 2017, the 502 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:56,840 defendant submitted an FD772 for upcoming unofficial travel to 503 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:58,830 Albania. Now when you work for the 504 00:22:58,830 --> 00:23:00,750 federal government in a national security position, doesn't 505 00:23:00,750 --> 00:23:02,390 matter if you work for the military, you work for a law 506 00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:04,270 enforcement agency, or if you work for the State Department, 507 00:23:04,350 --> 00:23:06,750 you have to file these forms when you want to travel, 508 00:23:07,070 --> 00:23:08,350 particularly outside of the country. 509 00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:13,190 What he did on this particular filing of the 772 is he failed 510 00:23:13,190 --> 00:23:15,710 to identify the person A would be his traveling companion. 511 00:23:15,870 --> 00:23:17,910 He failed to state that the lodging and accommodations would 512 00:23:17,910 --> 00:23:20,310 be provided free of charge and the person that would be paying 513 00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:22,870 them was in fact connected to the Albanian government. 514 00:23:24,410 --> 00:23:27,010 He failed to the state that he'd be going to Kosovo in addition 515 00:23:27,010 --> 00:23:30,930 to Albania. And he did not identify the 516 00:23:31,090 --> 00:23:34,170 anticipated reportable foreign contacts, including Person B and 517 00:23:34,170 --> 00:23:36,410 some other foreign nationals with whom he had ongoing 518 00:23:36,410 --> 00:23:38,610 relationships. You can't maintain foreign 519 00:23:38,610 --> 00:23:40,170 relationships. In fact, if you would move a new 520 00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:43,010 roommate in and you have a top secret clearance, you have to 521 00:23:43,010 --> 00:23:45,410 report on who that person is. You have to file that. 522 00:23:45,530 --> 00:23:47,530 If you marry a foreign national, if you are friends with a 523 00:23:47,530 --> 00:23:49,690 foreign national, if you have a business meal where you sit 524 00:23:49,690 --> 00:23:52,530 down, have a a nice discussion with somebody from a foreign 525 00:23:52,530 --> 00:23:54,730 country and you realize they are of that foreign country, you're 526 00:23:54,730 --> 00:23:56,490 required to disclose that under the terms. 527 00:23:56,570 --> 00:23:59,090 That's what a little guy like me would have had to do, as in as 528 00:23:59,090 --> 00:24:01,970 someone working for the FBI, if one of my friends decided to 529 00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:04,330 marry a foreign national and I was going to see them in any 530 00:24:04,330 --> 00:24:06,370 ongoing contact. If I was going to go there, I 531 00:24:06,370 --> 00:24:10,210 would have to report that. And this guy is out there flying 532 00:24:10,210 --> 00:24:12,930 to Albania and Kosovo and not telling that the somebody else 533 00:24:12,930 --> 00:24:14,370 is paying for his trip and his lodgings. 534 00:24:14,830 --> 00:24:17,830 Isn't that interesting? And yet we're only dealing with 535 00:24:17,830 --> 00:24:19,990 false statements. These are the lightest charges 536 00:24:19,990 --> 00:24:21,830 you can imagine on this stuff. All right. 537 00:24:24,070 --> 00:24:26,950 On this again in September, it says that he discussed working 538 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:30,630 for money with this individual and person A said he could 539 00:24:30,630 --> 00:24:32,470 provide McConnell little by little. 540 00:24:33,390 --> 00:24:34,510 We don't know. That's not a direct quote. 541 00:24:34,510 --> 00:24:36,990 So I don't know where they got little by little ongoing, you 542 00:24:36,990 --> 00:24:38,830 continue. He ends up going there and makes 543 00:24:38,830 --> 00:24:41,630 arguments on behalf of a Chinese energy conglomerate. 544 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,240 We don't know which one specifically, but the belief is 545 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,840 it's CFSCEFC. So he goes on and he's dealing 546 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,320 with the Prime Minister of Albania. 547 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:52,960 He's meeting with Person B. They're talking about drilling 548 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,520 rights. They're talking about Chinese 549 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,560 interests trying to keep Russian companies from getting oil field 550 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:03,080 licenses in Albania. All the stuff is acting on 551 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,720 behalf of a foreign nation and representing interests that are 552 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,850 nonamerican While he's on this unofficial business trip, I 553 00:25:09,850 --> 00:25:11,890 don't see any of that. Then we get to the substance of 554 00:25:11,890 --> 00:25:13,250 it. You go down to paragraph 26 555 00:25:13,250 --> 00:25:16,450 October 2017, outside a restaurant, in a parked car in 556 00:25:16,450 --> 00:25:18,810 New York City. Defendant Mcgonigal receives 557 00:25:18,810 --> 00:25:22,450 approximately $80,000 in cash from Person A. 558 00:25:23,050 --> 00:25:25,490 And then later on in the fall, So somewhere in that same time 559 00:25:25,490 --> 00:25:30,690 frame at the Person A's residence in New Jersey, he 560 00:25:30,690 --> 00:25:34,850 receives cash payments again in the amount of 80,000 and 561 00:25:34,850 --> 00:25:37,450 $65,000. I want to talk about 562 00:25:37,450 --> 00:25:40,330 transactional espionage money with you. 563 00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:42,290 There's a certain amount of money. 564 00:25:42,330 --> 00:25:44,410 We talked about it a little bit on Monday in the interview with 565 00:25:44,410 --> 00:25:45,810 Allison. There's a certain amount of 566 00:25:45,810 --> 00:25:47,850 money that is too much and there's a certain amount of 567 00:25:47,850 --> 00:25:50,810 money that is too little to be known as transactional espionage 568 00:25:50,850 --> 00:25:52,010 money. I've run this by other people. 569 00:25:52,010 --> 00:25:54,650 This is not just coming from my time at Washington field office. 570 00:25:54,890 --> 00:25:56,330 Other people have found this to be the case. 571 00:25:56,730 --> 00:26:01,610 If you receive a few $1000, it's not enough necessarily to sell 572 00:26:01,610 --> 00:26:03,450 out and be considered money. That's for state secrets. 573 00:26:03,730 --> 00:26:06,450 People are not going to assume risk for 5000 or $8000. 574 00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:08,010 Generally speaking, that's not going to be the case. 575 00:26:08,170 --> 00:26:10,090 They'd have to be pretty desperate and pretty low level. 576 00:26:10,210 --> 00:26:12,010 And that's not the kind of person that Charlie Mcgonigle 577 00:26:12,010 --> 00:26:13,290 was. He was a much higher level than 578 00:26:13,290 --> 00:26:15,050 that. Now if you're talking about 579 00:26:16,090 --> 00:26:20,690 probably 6 figures, 100 and 5200 and 5300 and $50,000, that's too 580 00:26:20,690 --> 00:26:22,610 much money for transactional espionage. 581 00:26:22,850 --> 00:26:25,810 The the idea is, is that people feed a certain amount of of 582 00:26:25,810 --> 00:26:28,910 secret and they get a certain amount of money that goes on and 583 00:26:28,910 --> 00:26:30,710 on. When you get the big payouts, 584 00:26:30,710 --> 00:26:33,390 that's almost always a relocation or an end of service 585 00:26:33,390 --> 00:26:35,870 or this is the culmination of a relationship and I'm demanding 586 00:26:35,870 --> 00:26:37,990 that final payoff because that person knows they've just 587 00:26:37,990 --> 00:26:39,270 assumed the maximum amount of risk. 588 00:26:39,990 --> 00:26:42,230 This usually goes into the millions, the amount of money 589 00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:44,070 that Robert Hansen is accused of receiving. 590 00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:47,430 This is obviously in 1985 money to 2000. 591 00:26:47,820 --> 00:26:52,660 It's like $1.5 million total. So very, very low just entering 592 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:55,620 into that seven figure amount. This is transactional dollars, 593 00:26:55,860 --> 00:26:58,420 fifty and sixty $80,000 at a time. 594 00:26:58,580 --> 00:27:01,220 This was the kind of money that Hanson was seeing adjusted for 595 00:27:01,220 --> 00:27:03,460 inflation. You bump it up 8090 hundred 596 00:27:03,460 --> 00:27:05,740 $1000 right around that that that amount of money, that's 597 00:27:05,740 --> 00:27:09,180 transactional espionage money. That's what we would expect to 598 00:27:09,180 --> 00:27:13,100 see someone who is trading US secrets, not influence of their 599 00:27:13,100 --> 00:27:17,660 position, using their position to be able to to to exploit the 600 00:27:17,660 --> 00:27:20,700 secrets that they had access to. And what we are not seeing are 601 00:27:20,780 --> 00:27:23,940 any charges along that line for Charlie Mcgonigal and a five 602 00:27:23,940 --> 00:27:26,060 year sentence. Remember Robert Hanson died in 603 00:27:26,060 --> 00:27:28,060 prison. He was convicted in the early 604 00:27:28,060 --> 00:27:30,220 2000s and he died in prison. I think he died this year. 605 00:27:30,220 --> 00:27:31,460 But if not it was late last year. 606 00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:34,060 That's a pretty new story. We actually have Robert Hanson 607 00:27:34,060 --> 00:27:35,900 died in prison. You can actually have it up 608 00:27:35,900 --> 00:27:36,980 here. Yep. 609 00:27:37,340 --> 00:27:39,940 This is actually from this year, June, June 5th is when it was 610 00:27:39,940 --> 00:27:41,900 reported that you can actually bring that up. 611 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:45,460 That is topic #3 Ryan. So you can see he died in June 612 00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:49,210 of this year in prison, 79 years old, apparently very fat and 613 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:52,850 very unhappy, a very disgraced human being who spent 20 years 614 00:27:52,850 --> 00:27:55,450 in prison. That's Robert Hanson's story. 615 00:27:56,450 --> 00:27:59,130 And obviously people died because of what he was doing. 616 00:27:59,490 --> 00:28:01,770 And that may be the case, a slight differential between what 617 00:28:01,770 --> 00:28:04,050 we're talking about here. But the idea that you would use 618 00:28:04,210 --> 00:28:09,850 your position in order to to make this, this, you know, this 619 00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:12,470 kind of money that should be really troubling to everybody. 620 00:28:12,470 --> 00:28:14,710 It also tells you what kind of a clown game is going on over the 621 00:28:14,710 --> 00:28:16,510 FBI that they didn't sniff this guy out. 622 00:28:16,630 --> 00:28:19,350 And honestly, the fact that Hanson was doing this from 1985 623 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:22,150 until 2001 should make you very concerned that they were 624 00:28:22,150 --> 00:28:24,110 allowing the stuff to go on all the way through the fall of the 625 00:28:24,110 --> 00:28:26,550 Soviet Union. If you'll bring up topic #13 for 626 00:28:26,550 --> 00:28:28,310 me, I want to discuss another little case here, folks. 627 00:28:28,590 --> 00:28:30,310 This is a case that I actually ended up working on. 628 00:28:30,310 --> 00:28:31,190 This is over. Now. 629 00:28:31,470 --> 00:28:34,230 It's it's over and done with. This former State Department 630 00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:36,630 employee sentence for comps firing with Chinese agents. 631 00:28:37,250 --> 00:28:40,010 I did limited work on this. I was part of the search warrant 632 00:28:40,250 --> 00:28:43,170 that searched the the House of Candace Claiborne. 633 00:28:43,890 --> 00:28:45,010 She worked for the State Department. 634 00:28:45,010 --> 00:28:48,010 As I understood it, she was like a secretarial type, but it also 635 00:28:48,010 --> 00:28:53,570 done some time overseas and she was involved in receiving money, 636 00:28:53,610 --> 00:28:57,530 favors, gifts and favorable consideration by the Chinese 637 00:28:57,530 --> 00:29:00,880 Communist Party for things that she was doing on behalf of them. 638 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,800 She had a low level, you know, she had the same clearance, but 639 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,440 she was a low level employee regarding that. 640 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480 And one of the things that I had to do was I actually translated 641 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,560 the entirety, sorry, not translated transcribe, the 642 00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,680 entirety of a false flag operation that was done. 643 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:16,400 They ran an undercover to her house, banged on the door, 644 00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,440 pretended to be a Chinese person that was friends with the people 645 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,880 that were supposedly the Chinese agents that were working with 646 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,200 her. And she invited this person 647 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,000 right in. We had no idea that was going to 648 00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:25,280 happen. So this person was wired up and 649 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,520 ended up talking. She ended up giving him all 650 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,110 kinds of information. The the crazy stuff about this 651 00:29:30,110 --> 00:29:33,270 story was and she ended up getting 40 months in prison. 652 00:29:33,270 --> 00:29:37,030 So she's probably it's 2019. She's probably right on the edge 653 00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:38,390 of getting out now. She may have gotten out for 654 00:29:38,390 --> 00:29:40,350 early release, so she may have already been released for this. 655 00:29:40,630 --> 00:29:42,190 She was entrusted with privileged information. 656 00:29:42,190 --> 00:29:44,070 Like all U.S. government employees, she had that secret 657 00:29:44,070 --> 00:29:46,790 clearance, the top secret clearance rather and had access 658 00:29:46,790 --> 00:29:47,790 to printers and things like that. 659 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:51,150 She chose to betray the American trust and you know the 660 00:29:51,150 --> 00:29:52,750 accountability was basically 40 months. 661 00:29:53,390 --> 00:29:58,800 Now, she was nowhere nearly as highly placed as someone like 662 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,320 like our buddy Charlie Mcgonigal. 663 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:05,560 But what she did have was a son who got admission into college. 664 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,200 He was homosexual and got himself involved in some really 665 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,640 dangerous activities, sexual activities overseas. 666 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,000 And so he was facing indictment overseas and the Chinese let him 667 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:22,520 slide specifically because of this connection, because of the 668 00:30:23,180 --> 00:30:24,940 the relationship that she had developed with them. 669 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:26,340 So they actually use that over her. 670 00:30:26,380 --> 00:30:29,180 And when you're compromised, the first thing that's trouble, 671 00:30:29,220 --> 00:30:31,180 Ryan, are we still doing that? We still have the press release 672 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:35,300 up. Yeah, you can throw it down. 673 00:30:36,060 --> 00:30:37,660 The, the thing about being compromised is this. 674 00:30:37,660 --> 00:30:40,140 Once that someone gives you money, I want you to think about 675 00:30:40,140 --> 00:30:42,100 this. You've received money, cash. 676 00:30:42,580 --> 00:30:44,100 Maybe that's deniable at some point. 677 00:30:44,490 --> 00:30:47,370 As that goes on, they now probably have a documentation of 678 00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:48,250 it. We've heard about this in the 679 00:30:48,250 --> 00:30:51,170 10/23 with the Biden administration, the idea that 680 00:30:51,570 --> 00:30:54,290 these people were buying off Hunter Biden and Joe Biden and 681 00:30:54,290 --> 00:30:56,570 they kept a record of it. You don't want to give money 682 00:30:56,570 --> 00:31:00,330 like cash as a business over to someone and not be able to get 683 00:31:00,330 --> 00:31:02,290 the thing that you paid for. And that's the problem with 684 00:31:02,290 --> 00:31:05,210 cash. It's gone unless you documented 685 00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:07,640 that meeting, unless you recorded it, unless you have 686 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,880 something that will show what was going on, whether they be 687 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,680 emails, whether they be text messages, phone calls and so on, 688 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:14,400 saying that you got the thing you want. 689 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,280 The leverage that they had in, in this case of this this woman 690 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,480 who's working on behalf of the Chinese was that her son was 691 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:22,000 facing prosecution and he was basically stuck overseas until 692 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,200 she did what they wanted. They let her go, but then they 693 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,720 always know that about her and they can always go back and show 694 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,200 the paper trail to the US government so they can use that 695 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,320 to further exploit you. Once you allow yourself, you 696 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,440 open the door up to exploitation, then you are 697 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,480 always open to exploitation. This is what the concern should 698 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:42,120 be about Charles Mcgonigal, and it's a biblical piece. 699 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,440 People who could be trusted in small matters can be trusted in 700 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,400 great matters. People who are not trustworthy 701 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,840 in small matters also not trustworthy in great matters. 702 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,760 So we know that this guy was willing to take money, that he 703 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,640 was willing to compromise his ethics, that he was willing to 704 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,000 go and work against US interest, that he was willing to lie to 705 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:02,350 his own agency, falsify forms. So then the question should 706 00:32:02,350 --> 00:32:03,710 always be what else was out there. 707 00:32:03,870 --> 00:32:06,110 And if you think that there was this like very competent 708 00:32:06,830 --> 00:32:09,150 investigation, you remember how big Hansen was. 709 00:32:09,630 --> 00:32:12,550 There were two big spies that were caught Alter James and 710 00:32:12,550 --> 00:32:14,710 Robert Hansen. They had a big trial and they 711 00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:17,150 were sentenced for the rest of their lives. 712 00:32:17,710 --> 00:32:19,710 That was it. Life in prison, you don't get 713 00:32:19,710 --> 00:32:21,430 out. There was treasonous behavior 714 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:23,590 and they were prosecuted under the Espionage Act. 715 00:32:24,430 --> 00:32:27,030 I don't see anything mentioned about that in this case. 716 00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:29,670 And yet he was using his official position. 717 00:32:30,070 --> 00:32:33,430 He was using his ability to gather information at the 718 00:32:33,430 --> 00:32:36,190 highest level of the the counterintelligence sphere. 719 00:32:36,670 --> 00:32:38,950 You don't even have to ask at that level. 720 00:32:39,070 --> 00:32:40,910 Like they don't need need to know. 721 00:32:40,990 --> 00:32:44,070 They're not worried about what keystrokes someone like Kyle 722 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:46,430 Seraphin or Gerda Boyle or Steve Friend is doing. 723 00:32:46,510 --> 00:32:48,630 When we go and look at a case, even if it's peripherally 724 00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:51,670 related to what we're going, we're working on, there's a 725 00:32:51,670 --> 00:32:52,630 there's going to be a record of it. 726 00:32:52,630 --> 00:32:55,150 We may have to answer questions. Hey saw you were in this file. 727 00:32:55,150 --> 00:32:57,270 Why? Why were you doing that as the 728 00:32:57,470 --> 00:33:00,440 as the chief guy in the New York field office running the 729 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,160 counterintelligence division, that's not coming up. 730 00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,520 You're the guy asking the questions. 731 00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,280 You're not the guy getting asked questions and the FBI is not 732 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:07,880 prepared to be able to handle these kind of things. 733 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,000 This is the highest level person who has been accused of 734 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,520 betraying the oath and they're sweeping it under the rug like 735 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:18,520 it's no big deal 1001 charges and where's the Farrah? 736 00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,280 We're hearing a lot about this and this is going to be relevant 737 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,560 because tomorrow hopefully we have the interview with our with 738 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:26,640 our undisclosed guests. I don't need to have any more 739 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:30,670 technical difficulties with our stream, but fair violation is 740 00:33:30,670 --> 00:33:32,350 something they're holding over the heads of people like Michael 741 00:33:32,350 --> 00:33:34,030 Flynn, unregistered foreign agent. 742 00:33:34,430 --> 00:33:36,310 And we're hearing a little bit about it and Hunter Biden, but 743 00:33:36,310 --> 00:33:37,310 we're not hearing it in a big way. 744 00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:39,190 How come he's not being charged with Farrah if they're willing 745 00:33:39,190 --> 00:33:43,030 to go after people on the conservative side and with a 746 00:33:43,030 --> 00:33:46,630 Charlie Mcgonigal? He was acting as an unregistered 747 00:33:46,630 --> 00:33:49,710 foreign agent. Did he file fair paperwork? 748 00:33:50,990 --> 00:33:53,270 They love that charge. Right now they're happy to levy 749 00:33:53,270 --> 00:33:56,190 it against people. And yet we're not seeing that. 750 00:33:56,190 --> 00:33:58,880 We're not seeing allegations of espionage, and we're seeing 751 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,360 money that looks an awful lot like transactional espionage. 752 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,960 I'm not the only person that thinks this. 753 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:04,880 Steve Gray was wondering about it. 754 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,600 Allison from Monday's interview was also talking about it 755 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,159 briefly. These are legitimate, serious 756 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,880 and ongoing concerns. You have to wonder why this guy 757 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,320 is getting the pass. And then we'll contrast it 758 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,840 because we always have to. Let's contrast it with what's 759 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,190 been going on in Trump indictments for now, 760 00:34:22,190 --> 00:34:23,830 indictments. I think there's like 90 counts 761 00:34:23,830 --> 00:34:25,670 going on it. We pull up topic #11 for me, 762 00:34:26,710 --> 00:34:29,389 this is this is MSNBC. They're not just obsessed with 763 00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:34,469 Trump being indicted, they're obsessed with Fox News being 764 00:34:34,469 --> 00:34:36,830 obsessed with Trump. I just pulled this graphic up. 765 00:34:36,909 --> 00:34:38,989 This was just me looking this morning for background research. 766 00:34:39,230 --> 00:34:42,790 Fox News Trump Stockholm syndrome is in full effect after 767 00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:44,510 his fourth indictment. That was the lead story on 768 00:34:44,510 --> 00:34:45,429 there. They can't get enough. 769 00:34:45,630 --> 00:34:47,710 Then you look down. Trump lovers rage over Fox 770 00:34:47,710 --> 00:34:50,620 debate restrictions from an old debate in 2016. 771 00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:53,780 Fox News is getting pummeled by former evangelist and it could 772 00:34:53,780 --> 00:34:55,900 get worse. They love talking about Fox. 773 00:34:56,060 --> 00:34:58,220 Fox is always talking about Trump. 774 00:34:58,300 --> 00:35:00,660 So we are going to just do this nonsense where we're going to 775 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,060 bring up one guy's story and we're not going to talk about 776 00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:04,860 something that is really a legitimate betrayal of the 777 00:35:04,860 --> 00:35:06,460 country. If anybody thinks that the 778 00:35:06,460 --> 00:35:10,020 conspiracy to defraud American voters from an election that he 779 00:35:10,020 --> 00:35:12,860 ended up not getting into the presidency for is the biggest 780 00:35:12,860 --> 00:35:15,060 crime and scandal, I think you're a crazy person. 781 00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:17,500 You don't have to love Donald Trump to look at the the 782 00:35:17,500 --> 00:35:19,340 unfairness that is being waged against the guy. 783 00:35:19,700 --> 00:35:22,460 And in the meantime, why is the media running top cover for the 784 00:35:22,460 --> 00:35:24,820 FBI? And why are we not hearing about 785 00:35:24,820 --> 00:35:26,940 a third person now being shot in seven days? 786 00:35:27,380 --> 00:35:29,460 Shouldn't that be a breaking story everywhere? 787 00:35:29,700 --> 00:35:31,660 How is it that they just sweep the stuff under and they don't 788 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:33,460 talk about it? We're going to make sure that 789 00:35:33,460 --> 00:35:35,460 people are talking about it. I'm going to make sure that we 790 00:35:35,460 --> 00:35:37,580 share this. And then and the other piece of 791 00:35:37,580 --> 00:35:39,380 it is that they're running people overseas, which we'll be 792 00:35:39,380 --> 00:35:41,020 talking about tomorrow. And that I don't want to tease 793 00:35:41,020 --> 00:35:42,940 it out too far because I want to make sure this thing actually 794 00:35:42,940 --> 00:35:46,010 does happen. The, the interesting thing with 795 00:35:46,050 --> 00:35:48,290 all of the stuff in Trump's indictments is that they are 796 00:35:48,410 --> 00:35:50,250 running both federal charges and state charges. 797 00:35:50,410 --> 00:35:53,730 The obvious danger of a federal indictment for them is that if 798 00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:55,450 he actually wins, he could pardon himself, right. 799 00:35:55,850 --> 00:35:57,810 The state charges are sort of insurance against that. 800 00:35:57,810 --> 00:36:00,050 And so you're seeing all this breathless talk in the media 801 00:36:00,170 --> 00:36:02,490 about how they can do that. If we can bring up, let's see 802 00:36:02,490 --> 00:36:04,330 here, the Mark Meadows situation, What is that from? 803 00:36:04,330 --> 00:36:10,740 That's going to be under topic number, topic #7, if you would, 804 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:13,020 Ryan. This is coming from a BC news 805 00:36:13,020 --> 00:36:14,580 today. They actually just released this 806 00:36:14,580 --> 00:36:16,660 yesterday. Mark Meadows is seeking to move 807 00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:20,820 his case, the indictment against him from Fulton County, which 808 00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,660 was in the Atlanta case here that the sort of prosecutor that 809 00:36:23,660 --> 00:36:26,860 wants to be a budget rate. Cardi B, the Fulton County 810 00:36:26,860 --> 00:36:28,980 election case, they want to move it into federal court. 811 00:36:28,980 --> 00:36:31,020 And there's some really interesting implications for 812 00:36:31,020 --> 00:36:32,820 this. And obviously, I think Trump's 813 00:36:32,820 --> 00:36:34,260 going to probably want to do the same thing. 814 00:36:34,500 --> 00:36:36,660 If they can get all these things out in the open and you know 815 00:36:36,660 --> 00:36:39,770 they'll deal with the the, the present presentation, the 816 00:36:39,770 --> 00:36:41,850 arraignment and so on, they're going to want to try to move 817 00:36:41,850 --> 00:36:43,850 venue. So this this article says former 818 00:36:43,850 --> 00:36:46,170 White House chief of staff Mark Meadows officially filed on 819 00:36:46,170 --> 00:36:49,090 Tuesday to move the case brought against him by the Fulton County 820 00:36:49,290 --> 00:36:52,850 District Attorney Fannie Willis. Again, our our friend the budget 821 00:36:53,010 --> 00:36:56,610 Cardi B into federal court just a day after he was indicted 822 00:36:56,610 --> 00:36:59,570 along with the federal with Trump, President Trump and 823 00:36:59,570 --> 00:37:01,650 seventeen others on charges of attempting to overturn the 824 00:37:01,650 --> 00:37:03,450 election. So 19 different people, 825 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:05,610 theoretically they can move all these into federal court. 826 00:37:05,610 --> 00:37:06,810 And So what is the argument here? 827 00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:11,270 His attorney says Mr. Meadows, nothing he is alleged to have 828 00:37:11,270 --> 00:37:14,310 done is criminal per se. He's arranging White House 829 00:37:14,310 --> 00:37:17,230 meetings. He is conducting state officials 830 00:37:17,230 --> 00:37:19,030 or contacting them on behalf of the president. 831 00:37:19,030 --> 00:37:21,630 He is visiting a state government building, setting up 832 00:37:21,630 --> 00:37:23,790 phone calls with the president. All things you would expect a 833 00:37:23,790 --> 00:37:26,510 chief of staff for the president of the United States of America 834 00:37:26,510 --> 00:37:27,950 to do. Those are all things that would 835 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:29,710 make sense. And so why would you do this? 836 00:37:29,710 --> 00:37:31,870 Here's what he's saying. This is precisely the kind of 837 00:37:31,870 --> 00:37:35,310 state interference in a federal officials duties that the 838 00:37:35,310 --> 00:37:38,390 Supremacy Clause of the United States Constitution prohibits 839 00:37:39,250 --> 00:37:44,250 and that removal and and the removal statute Shields against 840 00:37:44,250 --> 00:37:47,050 this. So the Supremacy Clause is the 841 00:37:47,050 --> 00:37:51,010 argument they do this in actual in in cases where federal agents 842 00:37:51,010 --> 00:37:52,970 are involved in a shooting and then charged locally with 843 00:37:52,970 --> 00:37:55,290 murder. Many people are never going to 844 00:37:55,290 --> 00:37:57,410 be familiar with this the concept of qualified immunity. 845 00:37:57,730 --> 00:38:00,170 But if you were to go and be a federal agent, whether you be a 846 00:38:00,170 --> 00:38:04,090 TF or DEA or FBI or you name it or HSI or so on, and you carry a 847 00:38:04,090 --> 00:38:06,250 gun for a living and you end up having to shoot somebody. 848 00:38:06,970 --> 00:38:08,970 And what they can do is they can actually charge you locally with 849 00:38:08,970 --> 00:38:11,410 murder or homicide of some kind, right, Second degree, first 850 00:38:11,410 --> 00:38:13,570 degree, third degree. And they can do that. 851 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:16,850 And the federal government can petition to pull that into 852 00:38:16,850 --> 00:38:19,650 federal courts. They change the venue and then 853 00:38:19,650 --> 00:38:21,690 they can dismiss it under the United States Attorney saying 854 00:38:21,690 --> 00:38:24,330 that you had qualified immunity, but you might otherwise face 855 00:38:24,330 --> 00:38:26,410 state charges. So there is a role for that. 856 00:38:26,410 --> 00:38:28,370 And what you would basically argue is that they were doing 857 00:38:28,370 --> 00:38:31,810 their duty as federal officials. One of the most sort of 858 00:38:32,350 --> 00:38:35,030 interesting versions of this happened when it was either 859 00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:38,550 Border Patrol or somebody under DHS was engaged in a 860 00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:41,310 surveillance from the border. If you listen to our Victor 861 00:38:41,310 --> 00:38:45,110 Avila article or our our interview rather you heard that 862 00:38:45,110 --> 00:38:46,910 he was talking about the functional equivalence of the 863 00:38:46,910 --> 00:38:49,550 border as long as you can maintain eyes on somebody that 864 00:38:49,550 --> 00:38:51,670 is doing smuggling or drug trafficking or gun running or 865 00:38:51,670 --> 00:38:54,270 whatever. And so they had the surveillance 866 00:38:54,270 --> 00:38:57,870 team following someone from Tijuana up the the California 867 00:38:57,870 --> 00:39:00,190 Highway system away from the Mexican border. 868 00:39:00,510 --> 00:39:02,650 And when you're running surveillance, sometimes you're 869 00:39:02,650 --> 00:39:04,090 going to be running directly behind somebody. 870 00:39:04,090 --> 00:39:05,730 Obviously, there's going to have someone who's going to have an 871 00:39:05,730 --> 00:39:07,370 eye on them. But often times what you'll do 872 00:39:07,370 --> 00:39:10,490 is you'll run in parallel and you will parallel these people 873 00:39:10,650 --> 00:39:12,610 on a second Rd. that goes the same direction. 874 00:39:12,610 --> 00:39:14,890 And California, there are multiple northbound highways, 875 00:39:15,010 --> 00:39:16,330 some of which are smaller than others. 876 00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:18,490 I think the person was northbound on the five doing a 877 00:39:18,490 --> 00:39:20,330 standard pursuit and then somebody was on one of the 878 00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:22,410 parallel routes which I cannot remember off the top of my head. 879 00:39:22,490 --> 00:39:25,090 But there's several of them rolling at a very very high rate 880 00:39:25,090 --> 00:39:27,900 of speed 100 miles an hour plus and hit somebody in a T-bone 881 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:29,380 collision that pulled out into traffic. 882 00:39:29,540 --> 00:39:32,020 The person was correct and turning the the agent was 883 00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:34,060 driving at a very very high rate of speed ended up killing the 884 00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:38,300 person that they T boned and the the state wanted to go after 885 00:39:38,300 --> 00:39:40,340 this agent for doing the job that they were supposed to be 886 00:39:40,340 --> 00:39:41,460 doing. Surveillance is inherently 887 00:39:41,460 --> 00:39:43,780 dangerous when you drive like this and what happened was it 888 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:47,020 was scoped under the federal employment statute. 889 00:39:47,020 --> 00:39:49,700 They pulled this into federal courts, said this person was 890 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,700 operating in their duty and therefore had qualified immunity 891 00:39:52,860 --> 00:39:55,230 for the the homicide, which would have been negligent 892 00:39:55,230 --> 00:39:57,310 homicide or reckless endangerment or whatever that 893 00:39:57,310 --> 00:40:01,390 the state was trying to charge and that person was not able to 894 00:40:01,390 --> 00:40:04,750 be charged in the state system. This happens all the time. 895 00:40:04,910 --> 00:40:07,510 And the argument is this is supremacy clause, which I think 896 00:40:07,510 --> 00:40:09,990 I have the actual supremacy clause, You guys can see it. 897 00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:13,150 Pull up topic 9 if you would. I think that's going to be it. 898 00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:16,190 Topic 9 is going to give you guys kind of a taste. 899 00:40:16,750 --> 00:40:19,030 Here we go. So the Supremacy Clause is 900 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:22,900 Article 4. Paragraph two of the United 901 00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,420 States Constitution, commonly referred to as the Supremacy 902 00:40:25,420 --> 00:40:28,340 Clause, It establishes that the federal constitution and federal 903 00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:30,780 law more generally take precedent over state laws, even 904 00:40:30,780 --> 00:40:33,180 the state constitution. It prohibits the states from 905 00:40:33,180 --> 00:40:35,140 interfering with the federal government's exercise of 906 00:40:35,140 --> 00:40:38,260 constitutional powers and from assuming any functions that are 907 00:40:38,260 --> 00:40:40,300 exclusively entrusted to the federal government. 908 00:40:40,540 --> 00:40:42,860 In other words, if somebody's executing their duties under 909 00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:45,700 federal law as a federal official, then they are not 910 00:40:45,700 --> 00:40:49,810 beholden to anything that goes on with the state outlaws. 911 00:40:49,930 --> 00:40:52,170 One of the good examples of this, if you were going and 912 00:40:52,170 --> 00:40:54,970 doing a recording of someone that you have the authorization 913 00:40:54,970 --> 00:40:58,410 to do as a federal government employee, even though there may 914 00:40:58,410 --> 00:41:00,930 be a two party consent requirement in the state, you're 915 00:41:00,930 --> 00:41:02,810 in for recording. In other words, I know and you 916 00:41:02,810 --> 00:41:04,930 know that I'm recording. I can still do a one party 917 00:41:04,930 --> 00:41:07,570 consent or a no party consent if I have the right warrants 918 00:41:07,730 --> 00:41:11,210 because the supremacy claw allows me to move beyond what 919 00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:13,990 the state allows in this case. It doesn't allow the federal 920 00:41:13,990 --> 00:41:16,390 government to review or veto state laws before they take 921 00:41:16,390 --> 00:41:18,230 effect. It simply allows them to ignore 922 00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:20,870 them and then they have case precedent that will allow them 923 00:41:20,870 --> 00:41:23,750 to go beyond that. McCullough versus Maryland was 924 00:41:23,750 --> 00:41:26,790 the story where this happened. They were two solicitors that 925 00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:29,470 were going and making an argument, Daniel Webster on 926 00:41:29,470 --> 00:41:31,910 behalf of the federal government and Martin Luther on behalf of 927 00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:33,550 the state of Maryland. And this is where they actually 928 00:41:33,590 --> 00:41:35,470 established this under the Marshall Court. 929 00:41:35,710 --> 00:41:38,750 This is a very old piece of case law that says the federal 930 00:41:38,750 --> 00:41:40,670 government has the ability to do this sort of thing. 931 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:46,050 And what we have in the case of A of trying to pull these things 932 00:41:46,050 --> 00:41:48,010 away is that is sort of this constitutional argument. 933 00:41:48,090 --> 00:41:50,170 There's a lot of constitutional arguments that are going to come 934 00:41:50,290 --> 00:41:52,410 up with the Trump indictment, and this is one of them. 935 00:41:52,610 --> 00:41:56,250 Can you in fact bring this under federal prosecution and then 936 00:41:56,250 --> 00:41:58,170 make the constitutional arguments that this person was 937 00:41:58,290 --> 00:41:59,570 acting within the scope of their job? 938 00:42:00,370 --> 00:42:02,930 The problem is, is that we have a weaponized DOJ and a Biden 939 00:42:02,930 --> 00:42:05,170 administration that's going to actually argue against that. 940 00:42:05,410 --> 00:42:07,850 And what you may have heard yesterday is that Fannie Willis 941 00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:11,170 was asked very directly and point blank, are you working 942 00:42:11,380 --> 00:42:14,660 with the special counsel Jack Smith, who brought the 943 00:42:14,660 --> 00:42:17,940 indictments in Florida and in the District of DC, the federal 944 00:42:17,940 --> 00:42:20,500 indictments? And she sort of demurred. 945 00:42:20,740 --> 00:42:23,060 She refused to answer such things. 946 00:42:24,100 --> 00:42:25,540 This is a real problem, I would say. 947 00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:29,580 This is a problem that allows us to move into a space where you 948 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,340 know what? What do you, what do you do when 949 00:42:31,340 --> 00:42:34,050 you start pitting a federal government that is supposed to 950 00:42:34,050 --> 00:42:36,410 be somewhat adversarial, in this case, that is supposed to be 951 00:42:36,410 --> 00:42:38,730 able to preserve the Constitution and it is not 952 00:42:38,970 --> 00:42:43,170 agreeing to its specific responsibilities under there. 953 00:42:44,290 --> 00:42:46,530 So this is, this isn't the ongoing fight that we're dealing 954 00:42:46,530 --> 00:42:49,930 with and it continues on. I want to play this, this video 955 00:42:49,930 --> 00:42:51,610 that we put up. This is something we talked 956 00:42:51,610 --> 00:42:54,410 about just like sort of the unhinged left and sort of the 957 00:42:54,410 --> 00:42:58,410 way that things work. This is video #1, if you would, 958 00:42:59,090 --> 00:43:02,500 coming from It's coming from CNN. 959 00:43:02,500 --> 00:43:05,620 This is a former Republican elected official in Georgia. 960 00:43:05,940 --> 00:43:07,700 And what you're seeing is that unified. 961 00:43:07,980 --> 00:43:10,780 You know, I always ask, are are the rhinos the real Republicans? 962 00:43:10,940 --> 00:43:13,180 Are they the ones that are actually emphasizing it? 963 00:43:13,180 --> 00:43:16,500 There was so much insanity about Donald Trump getting into office 964 00:43:16,780 --> 00:43:19,290 that it's almost impossible to remember all of it. 965 00:43:19,290 --> 00:43:20,970 So we're going to refresh your memory a little bit here. 966 00:43:21,210 --> 00:43:23,530 And they're showing that even though the Republican Party 967 00:43:23,530 --> 00:43:26,170 should be united around the guy who is the forerunner in the 968 00:43:26,170 --> 00:43:28,410 primary, there's this concerted effort to move it. 969 00:43:28,450 --> 00:43:31,170 And whenever you bring a Republican on CNN, we know that 970 00:43:31,170 --> 00:43:32,290 something is not on the up and up. 971 00:43:32,290 --> 00:43:34,090 If you want to roll video clip number one for me, right? 972 00:43:34,370 --> 00:43:37,210 This feels different. You know what? 973 00:43:37,490 --> 00:43:39,930 Donald Trump did his did his most damage in Georgia. 974 00:43:40,370 --> 00:43:42,490 He sucked the soul out of the Republican Party here. 975 00:43:43,010 --> 00:43:45,410 He sucked the morality out of the Republican Party, the fiscal 976 00:43:45,410 --> 00:43:47,090 responsibility out of the Republican Party. 977 00:43:47,500 --> 00:43:49,820 He's he sucked our winning percentage out of the Republican 978 00:43:49,820 --> 00:43:51,540 Party. He's taken everything from us 979 00:43:51,540 --> 00:43:53,860 and it is our turn to take it back, right? 980 00:43:53,860 --> 00:43:56,220 It's our turn to win elections based on the policies that we 981 00:43:56,220 --> 00:43:58,980 think we're better on. This is the prime spot for us to 982 00:43:58,980 --> 00:44:01,740 take Joe Biden to the woodshed and call him out for not running 983 00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:03,580 the border, right. Not protecting our communities, 984 00:44:03,580 --> 00:44:05,900 not putting our best foot forward internationally. 985 00:44:05,900 --> 00:44:08,820 These are our moments in time. But if we make this about the 986 00:44:08,820 --> 00:44:11,820 three ring circus of Donald Trump, we will lose, lose and 987 00:44:11,820 --> 00:44:16,500 lose again. You make a good point that you 988 00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:19,180 make a good point when CNN agrees with you that we need to 989 00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:21,620 get rid of Donald Trump, that Donald Trump is the very, very 990 00:44:21,620 --> 00:44:23,940 bad man. He's the problem that we have to 991 00:44:23,940 --> 00:44:26,340 deal with. You know, you might be on the 992 00:44:26,340 --> 00:44:30,060 wrong side. Donald Trump has been indicted 4 993 00:44:30,060 --> 00:44:34,260 * 2 state and two federal. And rather than see the party 994 00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:37,300 rally around and say this is a Banana Republic, this is not 995 00:44:37,300 --> 00:44:39,140 okay. They're able to find plenty of 996 00:44:39,140 --> 00:44:42,180 people who look nice in a suit and speak articulately that 997 00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:45,700 could be marched out in front of a CNN audience and say, look, 998 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,770 we're we're not the crazy people here. 999 00:44:48,570 --> 00:44:51,330 It's Donald Trump with the three ring circus that he's running. 1000 00:44:52,290 --> 00:44:55,970 It's the man that we've been basically fighting tooth and 1001 00:44:55,970 --> 00:45:01,010 nail against since 2015 that we've been shrieking that the 1002 00:45:01,010 --> 00:45:04,610 sky would fall, that we are going to be dealing with an 1003 00:45:04,610 --> 00:45:09,250 unprecedented, unacceptable removing, you know, political 1004 00:45:09,250 --> 00:45:11,610 environment in the United States, that it's racist and 1005 00:45:11,610 --> 00:45:13,490 it's sexist and it's homophobic and it's bigoted. 1006 00:45:13,610 --> 00:45:16,690 And he's now been accused credibly of sexual assault, even 1007 00:45:16,690 --> 00:45:18,890 though the lady who who is speaking about the sexual 1008 00:45:18,890 --> 00:45:22,850 assault there is nuts, right. This got this lady, Jean 1009 00:45:22,850 --> 00:45:24,410 Carroll, whatever her name is, that was in New York. 1010 00:45:24,410 --> 00:45:26,170 And then and now they're going to, you know, the fact that 1011 00:45:26,170 --> 00:45:28,890 there was a civil finding against Trump is enough for them 1012 00:45:28,890 --> 00:45:30,890 to act, trot out their, their stories. 1013 00:45:30,970 --> 00:45:34,410 Meanwhile, how about the credible allegations against Joe 1014 00:45:34,410 --> 00:45:38,750 Biden that we hadn't decided to just bury and quash More about 1015 00:45:38,750 --> 00:45:41,590 that at the end of this week as we move forward, may have some 1016 00:45:41,590 --> 00:45:44,550 very interesting information, stories that you are not totally 1017 00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:46,670 familiar with. It's certainly not from the 1018 00:45:46,790 --> 00:45:49,110 first hand source, but we're going to be bringing you some 1019 00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:53,110 some questions about, well, why is it that they want to paint 1020 00:45:53,110 --> 00:45:56,190 this brush so broadly? Why do they have to keep that 1021 00:45:56,190 --> 00:45:59,670 focus specifically on there? I've got a video that we're 1022 00:45:59,670 --> 00:46:00,870 going to play for a second, right? 1023 00:46:00,870 --> 00:46:01,990 Had to step away for just a moment. 1024 00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:04,450 We got a video that we're going to play that's going to remind 1025 00:46:04,450 --> 00:46:07,690 you of just how unhinged and how scared. 1026 00:46:07,810 --> 00:46:12,170 And moreover the things that are going on in Michigan right now, 1027 00:46:12,170 --> 00:46:15,890 the electors that are being prosecuted for the false slate 1028 00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:19,050 of electors, which is essentially a a faithless 1029 00:46:19,090 --> 00:46:22,490 electors case, right. These are people that they 1030 00:46:22,490 --> 00:46:24,930 thought were going to basically vote against what the state said 1031 00:46:25,370 --> 00:46:29,130 that that hadn't been settled by the time that Michigan sent 1032 00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:31,410 these things or that people decided to show up and run 1033 00:46:31,410 --> 00:46:33,330 against them. The the case, the Supreme Court 1034 00:46:33,330 --> 00:46:40,050 case was actually settled in 2020 and it was the result of a 1035 00:46:40,370 --> 00:46:43,210 case brought Chiaflo versus Washington, the socalled 1036 00:46:43,210 --> 00:46:45,530 faithless elector case that we brought this up in the 1037 00:46:45,530 --> 00:46:48,290 constitutional discussion of whether or not Trump would be 1038 00:46:48,290 --> 00:46:52,650 able to make this argument that that in fact it hadn't even been 1039 00:46:52,650 --> 00:46:54,490 settled yet. They were trying to figure out 1040 00:46:54,490 --> 00:47:00,240 whether or not the electors, going from the what do they call 1041 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,880 the the Electoral College, could vote against the recommendations 1042 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,800 of their party. They they wanted to to know, can 1043 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,600 we send electors and can those electors actually make up their 1044 00:47:11,600 --> 00:47:14,120 own mind? That wasn't settled law under 1045 00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,600 the Supreme Court, which does get to have that judicial review 1046 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,240 process that didn't actually get settled until until 2020. 1047 00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:24,750 So I want you to step back to 2016 and remember just how 1048 00:47:24,750 --> 00:47:27,750 unhinged these people have been. If we'll play video clip #2. 1049 00:47:27,790 --> 00:47:29,590 I saw this training again. I think Matt Couch. 1050 00:47:29,590 --> 00:47:30,750 I'm going to give a little hat tip here. 1051 00:47:30,910 --> 00:47:34,190 Matt Couch from Red Voice Media was was scrolling this across 1052 00:47:34,190 --> 00:47:36,070 his Twitter feed. And when I watched it I went, Oh 1053 00:47:36,070 --> 00:47:39,630 my God, I forget somehow how crazy things have been for the 1054 00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:41,590 last eight years, how unhinged. We've seen this. 1055 00:47:41,630 --> 00:47:44,230 So let's watch this little quick video clip and just remember, 1056 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:46,510 first of all, it's clown like because we can see how silly 1057 00:47:46,510 --> 00:47:48,820 these people are. But more importantly, look at 1058 00:47:48,820 --> 00:47:50,780 what they were asking to happen. Is this not the insurrection 1059 00:47:50,780 --> 00:47:52,620 that they were all running against clip number two 1060 00:47:53,460 --> 00:47:55,660 Republican members of the Electoral College? 1061 00:47:55,780 --> 00:47:58,980 This message is for you. As you know, our Founding 1062 00:47:58,980 --> 00:48:01,860 Fathers built the Electoral College to safeguard the 1063 00:48:01,860 --> 00:48:05,540 American people from the dangers of a demagogue and to ensure 1064 00:48:05,540 --> 00:48:09,500 that the presidency only goes to someone who is, to an eminent 1065 00:48:09,500 --> 00:48:13,300 degree endowed with the requisite qualifications, an 1066 00:48:13,340 --> 00:48:17,620 eminent degree, someone who is highly qualified for the job. 1067 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,760 The Electoral College was created specifically to prevent 1068 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,680 an unfit candidate from becoming president. 1069 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,120 There are 538 members of the Electoral College. 1070 00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,480 You and just 36 other conscientious Republican 1071 00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:34,720 electors can make a difference by voting your conscience on 1072 00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:38,280 December 19th and thereby shaping the future of our 1073 00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:40,600 nation. I'm not asking you to vote for 1074 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,080 Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote for 1075 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,280 Hillary Clinton. I'm not asking you to vote for 1076 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,460 Hillary Clinton. As you know, the Constitution 1077 00:48:47,460 --> 00:48:50,780 gives electors the right to vote for any eligible person, any 1078 00:48:50,820 --> 00:48:53,580 eligible person, no matter which party they belong to. 1079 00:48:53,740 --> 00:48:56,500 But it should certainly be someone you consider especially 1080 00:48:56,500 --> 00:49:01,260 competent, especially competent, to serve as President of the 1081 00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:05,380 United States of America. By voting your conscience, you 1082 00:49:05,420 --> 00:49:09,020 and other brave Republican electors can give the House of 1083 00:49:09,020 --> 00:49:13,420 Representatives the option to select a qualified candidate for 1084 00:49:13,420 --> 00:49:16,020 the presidency. I stand with you. 1085 00:49:16,630 --> 00:49:19,030 I stand with you. I stand with you. 1086 00:49:19,590 --> 00:49:22,870 I stand with you in support and solidarity with conservatives, 1087 00:49:22,910 --> 00:49:26,230 independents and liberals and all citizens of the United 1088 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:30,950 States. They stand with you just letting 1089 00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:32,830 you know. Also, the Constitution does not 1090 00:49:32,830 --> 00:49:35,110 say that they can vote for any qualified person. 1091 00:49:35,110 --> 00:49:36,950 Do you notice that they quoted The Federalist Papers, by the 1092 00:49:36,950 --> 00:49:38,390 way, and acted like that was somehow law? 1093 00:49:38,390 --> 00:49:40,750 The Federalist Papers were arguments on behalf of the 1094 00:49:40,750 --> 00:49:42,310 Constitution and the Federalist system. 1095 00:49:43,030 --> 00:49:47,010 They suddenly like federalism, Leftist suddenly like federalism 1096 00:49:47,010 --> 00:49:51,130 whenever it backs their purposes and deny elections whenever it 1097 00:49:51,130 --> 00:49:54,050 suits their purposes. I don't know how half those 1098 00:49:54,050 --> 00:49:56,650 people were, but Deborah Messing, the woman from Will and 1099 00:49:56,650 --> 00:49:58,930 Grace? That's just so sorry eyed right 1100 00:49:58,930 --> 00:50:02,970 there about the idea of it. Look how sorrowful and and 1101 00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:07,170 somber and serious these people are about how bad Donald Trump 1102 00:50:07,170 --> 00:50:09,490 was going to be. That was 2016. 1103 00:50:10,290 --> 00:50:12,170 That was a group called Unite for America. 1104 00:50:12,170 --> 00:50:14,410 I went and looked for their page and they actually have a funny 1105 00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:15,770 little thing. There's just like a bunch of 1106 00:50:15,770 --> 00:50:17,530 nonsense. Nobody responds to it. 1107 00:50:17,530 --> 00:50:19,370 I don't know if it's dark money or where it comes from or who's 1108 00:50:19,450 --> 00:50:23,210 finding it, but it it does tell you that the the narrative being 1109 00:50:23,210 --> 00:50:25,490 pushed is is totally ridiculous. We're going to pull up our last 1110 00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:28,570 topic here, kind of go out on kind of a silly note because 1111 00:50:28,730 --> 00:50:31,770 everything else seems so screwed up and and stressful. 1112 00:50:32,370 --> 00:50:33,890 How about this one right here from the Guardian? 1113 00:50:33,890 --> 00:50:35,490 My wife sent me this and she started laughing. 1114 00:50:35,490 --> 00:50:37,530 I guess Gavin McGinnis was highlighting it, talking about 1115 00:50:37,530 --> 00:50:41,640 the the beta male cabal. This is from a guy named James 1116 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:42,880 Ball. It's unrelated anything else 1117 00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,000 we've been talking about here, but it does tell you how scared 1118 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,040 they are of people thinking on their own and coming up with 1119 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:50,920 ideas that are contrary to the mainstream media. 1120 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,440 It says everything you've been told is a lie inside the 1121 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,200 Wellness to fascism pipeline. A guy named James Ball. 1122 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,880 I pulled up this guy's this profile fixture last night, my 1123 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,680 wife and her sitting in bed and looking at it and I go, I don't 1124 00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,300 know if that's a dude. I don't know if that's a female. 1125 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:06,820 I don't know what that is. Is that a, a transgender person? 1126 00:51:07,420 --> 00:51:10,500 Is that a male represent you know, female representing as a 1127 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:12,700 male. It's all really silly it. 1128 00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,980 And and so come to the conclusion, since there's no 1129 00:51:16,380 --> 00:51:20,020 significant amount of work talking about his brave and and 1130 00:51:20,020 --> 00:51:22,540 courageous transition, that I assume that this is actually a 1131 00:51:22,540 --> 00:51:26,500 regular dude with a little pink banner behind him who is 1132 00:51:26,500 --> 00:51:29,460 incredibly effeminate features and a soft doughy body. 1133 00:51:29,660 --> 00:51:33,300 Who is really scared that people who are interested in meditation 1134 00:51:33,540 --> 00:51:39,280 and people who are into doing yoga and some other things are 1135 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,440 going from namaste to NA? I don't think I trust the 1136 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:45,200 government. This is, this is apparently the 1137 00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,520 real scary thing. This actually goes right in line 1138 00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,640 with some of these pieces that you've seen out there that say 1139 00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,440 there is a direct connection between working out and like 1140 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:55,720 right wing extremism and you know being a gym rat can turn 1141 00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:57,160 you into a fascist and all the other stuff. 1142 00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,400 They literally say that there is a Wellness to fascism pipeline 1143 00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:04,940 and essentially what it came down to is a bunch of people who 1144 00:52:04,940 --> 00:52:09,260 are interested in meditation and yoga and Reiki and you take your 1145 00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:13,940 pick of like sort of traditionally left-leaning self 1146 00:52:13,940 --> 00:52:16,260 help and practices. These sort of spiritual but 1147 00:52:16,260 --> 00:52:20,140 nonreligious practices have found themselves doing something 1148 00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,300 that everybody else did too. Because this is a universal 1149 00:52:22,300 --> 00:52:25,020 thing. There's a universal distrust of 1150 00:52:25,060 --> 00:52:28,360 government institutions to include the media right now, And 1151 00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,840 I think what we talked about touches on a lot of that. 1152 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,840 They are not sharing with you the full narrative. 1153 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,680 They're not sharing with you the information that you might need 1154 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,840 to make an intelligent decision. They're trying to spoon feed you 1155 00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,280 a government line of garbage. So this guy is super worried 1156 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:45,760 that there's a radicalization of nice, middleclass, hippieish 1157 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:51,200 groups turning into fascists because they are now looking 1158 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,600 around going, man, is there child trafficking going on? 1159 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,760 And apparently that's believing in an actual trial, trafficking, 1160 00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,480 which totally happens. The movement of children 1161 00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:05,120 illegally for work and for sex is now a right wing lunatic 1162 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,560 position, even though it's documented by federal law 1163 00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:10,800 enforcement cases. I mean that's that's the world 1164 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,360 we're going to live in. These people are going to just 1165 00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:13,840 go out there. You're the idea that you would 1166 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,400 say, hey, maybe the election wasn't legit. 1167 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:17,800 Maybe, maybe I don't want to get a COVID vaccine because I 1168 00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,280 believe in other wellnesses. What's funny is when I was 1169 00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:22,920 growing up, the people that didn't want to get vaccines of 1170 00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:26,160 any kind, they were not getting all the childhood vaccinations, 1171 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,080 MMR. They weren't getting smallpox 1172 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,920 and all that. They were all on the political 1173 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,360 left. They were like crunchy Lib kind 1174 00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:36,840 of woo woo types, right? They were all leftists. 1175 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:43,600 They were Uber Lib hippie types and now that's considered to be 1176 00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,400 a right wing fascist, dangerous white supremacy thing. 1177 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,600 How funny when the common cause happens for people who just 1178 00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,280 basically look at the government and go, I don't think we trust 1179 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:55,880 you. That should be just about 1180 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,320 anybody who's worked in the federal government. 1181 00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,120 It should be just about anybody who served in the military that 1182 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,400 looks and sees the inefficiencies and the 1183 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,480 ineffectiveness. That doesn't mean that you don't 1184 00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,960 love the country and it doesn't mean that your oath is gone. 1185 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,120 It means that the implements and the mechanisms for executing 1186 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:11,720 these types of things are not inherently trustworthy because 1187 00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:14,600 you've seen how the sausage is made and it's not made well. 1188 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,060 It's made of a bunch of corrupt and ultimately individually 1189 00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:21,660 greedy people, the Charles Mcgonagall types who are out 1190 00:54:21,660 --> 00:54:23,860 there looking, how can I use this position to enrich myself? 1191 00:54:24,060 --> 00:54:27,620 How can I tell people how great I am and use that? 1192 00:54:27,780 --> 00:54:29,940 And and at the end of the day, we've had a couple of people 1193 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:32,980 from the the retired agent community. 1194 00:54:33,060 --> 00:54:35,700 And when I say we, I mean the suspendables, the Gerda Boyles, 1195 00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:39,940 the Marcus Allens, the, you know, producer Phils, the Steve 1196 00:54:39,940 --> 00:54:44,060 Friends, we all look around and go Where is the massive outcry 1197 00:54:44,540 --> 00:54:47,000 of these people. And ultimately what we've seen 1198 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,200 is that people who are collecting a government pension 1199 00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:52,360 are scared to speak out for fear of losing that government 1200 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,040 pension. Phil said something on True 1201 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:56,960 Social the other day. He said that the employees of 1202 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,400 the federal government are bribed every two weeks with an 1203 00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:02,200 unlimited supply of Federal Reserve notes. 1204 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,240 You guys may have seen that and he's exactly correct. 1205 00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:09,590 There is a tremendous fear that even though even though you 1206 00:55:09,590 --> 00:55:11,550 think there are things that are going on wrong and you have 1207 00:55:11,550 --> 00:55:15,390 probably credible evidence and experience and anecdotal time of 1208 00:55:15,430 --> 00:55:17,750 all the different little minor corruptions that have gone on 1209 00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:19,910 and it leads to a bigger narrative, those people are not 1210 00:55:19,910 --> 00:55:20,870 speaking out. Why? 1211 00:55:21,350 --> 00:55:23,190 Because they're afraid they're going to lose that pension that 1212 00:55:23,190 --> 00:55:25,110 comes from OPM. They're afraid that they will 1213 00:55:25,110 --> 00:55:27,830 find themselves PNG from the government circle and they will 1214 00:55:27,830 --> 00:55:30,070 no longer be able to go out there and get lucrative jobs. 1215 00:55:31,470 --> 00:55:33,670 They will no longer go out there and sell the influence they had 1216 00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:36,310 to their prior employer and say how great they are. 1217 00:55:37,030 --> 00:55:41,490 Little do they know that this Wellness to fascist pipeline is 1218 00:55:41,490 --> 00:55:44,250 actually a pretty big movement of people on the left and on the 1219 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:45,570 right. And it's a lot of people that 1220 00:55:45,570 --> 00:55:48,130 are looking and saying if you want credibility, come out, blow 1221 00:55:48,130 --> 00:55:51,690 the whistle, come out and say give credible allegations of of 1222 00:55:51,690 --> 00:55:54,130 wrongdoing, talk about what is screwed up. 1223 00:55:55,330 --> 00:55:57,090 But the fear is, is that you'll be destitute. 1224 00:55:57,490 --> 00:56:01,090 And the government, as my buddy Gerda Boyle said so clearly is 1225 00:56:01,090 --> 00:56:03,530 more than happy to crush you for doing such things. 1226 00:56:04,060 --> 00:56:06,260 Let's shut that down here. We got a big interview coming up 1227 00:56:06,260 --> 00:56:08,420 this afternoon, which I am very excited to share with you 1228 00:56:08,420 --> 00:56:09,900 tomorrow. I'm not going to say anymore 1229 00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:12,260 about it other than you're not going to want to miss tomorrow's 1230 00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:14,340 show. I talked to Miranda Devine about 1231 00:56:14,340 --> 00:56:17,500 it on text messages last night, and she was like, oh man, I'm in 1232 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:19,860 for that. There is going to be, we're 1233 00:56:19,860 --> 00:56:21,540 going to shake some things up, I think. 1234 00:56:21,540 --> 00:56:24,220 And I'm definitely going to have an FBI investigation opening to 1235 00:56:24,220 --> 00:56:26,940 me on the counterintelligence front if I don't have one 1236 00:56:26,940 --> 00:56:30,180 already, simply for engaging in this interview. 1237 00:56:30,180 --> 00:56:34,010 So let it happen, but it be we don't shy away from things like 1238 00:56:34,010 --> 00:56:35,250 that. We are not scared of the FBI 1239 00:56:35,250 --> 00:56:36,650 here. We've seen how the sausage is 1240 00:56:36,650 --> 00:56:40,050 made, and it is made by people who are less competent than many 1241 00:56:40,050 --> 00:56:41,770 of you think. Doesn't mean they can't shoot 1242 00:56:41,770 --> 00:56:43,530 you dead in your house. Doesn't mean that doesn't wake 1243 00:56:43,530 --> 00:56:45,450 me up in the middle of the night sometimes and have me sitting on 1244 00:56:45,450 --> 00:56:48,490 my couch looking out the window. But it's not a thing that we can 1245 00:56:48,490 --> 00:56:51,330 live in fear of because the government should not lead us to 1246 00:56:51,330 --> 00:56:52,730 a position of fear. We can't accept it. 1247 00:56:52,970 --> 00:56:55,970 It's totally unacceptable. And as many of you know, our 1248 00:56:55,970 --> 00:57:00,050 hashtag, Are you suspendable? Hashtag are you suspendable? 1249 00:57:00,290 --> 00:57:02,970 Is how we say that you ask your your neighbors and your friends 1250 00:57:02,970 --> 00:57:04,850 people who are following you anywhere on social media. 1251 00:57:04,850 --> 00:57:08,290 Let them know it's time. You have to be suspendable. 1252 00:57:08,770 --> 00:57:09,810 All right folks. You've been listening to the 1253 00:57:09,810 --> 00:57:11,930 Kyle Sarafin Show despite technical difficulties streamed 1254 00:57:11,930 --> 00:57:14,490 live from Liberty Hill TX. And we do want to thank you for 1255 00:57:14,490 --> 00:57:15,770 listening. Thank you for sticking around. 1256 00:57:15,930 --> 00:57:18,730 Look like they were what 600 plus of you that made it over to 1257 00:57:18,730 --> 00:57:21,850 the second stream despite a false start and some will say 1258 00:57:21,850 --> 00:57:25,850 very curious feed issues that we were able to shut down the feed 1259 00:57:25,850 --> 00:57:28,170 and restart it and and change keys and it managed to work. 1260 00:57:28,170 --> 00:57:31,500 So maybe that was just what happens on Rumble when you try 1261 00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:33,940 to schedule out your your thing in advance, or maybe when you 1262 00:57:33,940 --> 00:57:36,780 schedule a feed that is called counterintelligence with 1263 00:57:36,780 --> 00:57:40,460 pictures of former FBI agents. The FBI doesn't look kindly on 1264 00:57:40,460 --> 00:57:41,140 it. We'll find out. 1265 00:57:41,740 --> 00:57:43,260 Or maybe we never will. That's the way it goes. 1266 00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:45,500 The show will continue. It continues to grow. 1267 00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:49,860 We have reached 655 star reviews on Apple as we requested. 1268 00:57:49,860 --> 00:57:51,260 Thanks so much for coming through folks. 1269 00:57:51,420 --> 00:57:54,100 Let's get it up to 700. Our goal is 1000 by the end of 1270 00:57:54,100 --> 00:57:56,100 the year. This was a producer Phil's dream 1271 00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:58,860 for the show. We are well on track to making 1272 00:57:58,860 --> 00:58:00,620 that happen. Leave us a 5 star review on 1273 00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:02,380 Apple. You can scroll right down and 1274 00:58:02,380 --> 00:58:03,940 you click on it. If you have an iPhone, you can 1275 00:58:03,940 --> 00:58:05,660 click through it. If you were on a Macintosh, you 1276 00:58:05,660 --> 00:58:08,460 can click through it. You can see one just like this 1277 00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:10,020 one. This is coming from. 1278 00:58:10,020 --> 00:58:14,680 Who's this coming from? This is coming from PAP 121319. 1279 00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:15,720 I don't know what those numbers mean. 1280 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:19,720 It says Kyle is on fire. I saw you first on Dan Bongino. 1281 00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:22,080 You're on fire today and I appreciate your call to action. 1282 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:23,560 This must have been from Wednesday of last week. 1283 00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,480 So one week old now. FBI SWAT teams killed someone in 1284 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,560 Albuquerque yesterday, another in Utah today. 1285 00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,560 The FBI is so corrupt is beyond hope. 1286 00:58:31,870 --> 00:58:34,550 Thank you for all you do for us. I hope you Steve friend and all 1287 00:58:34,550 --> 00:58:36,550 the other suspendables keep up the good work. 1288 00:58:36,550 --> 00:58:38,070 We'll keep doing it. You keep doing it. 1289 00:58:38,230 --> 00:58:40,950 Pat thanks for that review. And of course as we found out 1290 00:58:40,950 --> 00:58:44,190 today, no details yet but another person killed in Memphis 1291 00:58:44,190 --> 00:58:48,310 by FBI SWAT. So ongoing killing it's just the 1292 00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:51,430 this is that's far too frequent in a seven day period. 1293 00:58:51,430 --> 00:58:53,230 That's actually the most I've ever heard of since I started 1294 00:58:53,230 --> 00:58:57,070 paying attention to the FBI which was probably in 20/14/2015 1295 00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:58,630 as I was making my applications in. 1296 00:58:59,110 --> 00:59:02,020 Very scary stuff. We'll say thank you to to your 1297 00:59:02,020 --> 00:59:03,340 Five Star review. Send us another one. 1298 00:59:03,380 --> 00:59:05,180 Anybody out there that wants to send it and have it read, we 1299 00:59:05,180 --> 00:59:07,060 will read them on the show and we want to say thanks to Ryan 1300 00:59:07,060 --> 00:59:09,500 Matta who made it in today and struggled through our tactical 1301 00:59:09,500 --> 00:59:12,210 difficulties. Follow him on Twitter at Ryan 1302 00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:15,290 Mata Media. MATTA Ryan has some really 1303 00:59:15,290 --> 00:59:16,530 interesting stuff from down on the border. 1304 00:59:16,530 --> 00:59:18,730 I know he's been going through terabytes of data that he's 1305 00:59:18,730 --> 00:59:20,610 going to be sharing with you, so you guys will be seeing that. 1306 00:59:20,770 --> 00:59:24,290 And you can also catch him on his LFATV show, which is called 1307 00:59:24,290 --> 00:59:26,770 Mata Of Fact. You'll find that at 2:00 Eastern 1308 00:59:26,770 --> 00:59:30,410 Time on Rumble as well. 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