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enthusiast, Second Amendment defender, and recovering FBI
agent Kyle Seraphin. Well, hello my friends and
welcome to the Kyle Seraphin Show.
Today is Wednesday, it is September the 24th and we have
AI think maybe a wild amount of information to cover.
And so I brought in a pinch hitter with a little bit more
gravitas in the particular topic.
We're going to be talking about secret server farms that have
the ability to disrupt the United States telecom systems.
That's a good question about what the heck that even means.
And I told you I was going to stick on this story yesterday,
and I intend to. So I brought on my friend George
Hill. He's going to be joining us
momentarily. George Hill is a former analyst
with the NSA. He was a supervisory analyst
with the FBI, spent about a decade and 1/2 on the federal
civilian side, but also over 2 decades with the military
intelligence side of things and in the US and overseas.
So we're going to get some real perspective on this.
I want to talk about things like color revolutions, what those
mean, what they are historically, and why we might
be talking about something like that right now.
We're going to talk about Islam, which might be a third rail for
some people, but certainly not for us.
And we're going to be talking about censorship and affirmative
action and sort of how all of these things come together in
one space and what the hell that may have to do with what's going
on and the sort of threats that we're facing.
Are they domestic? Are they foreign?
Are they a hybrid version of both?
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Here comes today's Kyle Serafin show.
All right. And I'm going to do it with no
further ado. We're going to bring on my
friend George Hill. Good morning, Mr. Hill.
How are you doing today? Oh well, good morning.
What hat are you sporting right there?
Is that a firearms hat? Yeah, it is.
Is that the is that a Sig Sauer? Maybe shoot yourself in the in
the groin. Come on, man, don't go there.
Please keep your finger out of the trigger guard.
You'll be all right. George, you're also a firearms
instructor. Did you say that your business
has been picking up of late? Sadly, and I take no pleasure in
this, but since the Charlie Kirk assassination, yes it has.
What what do you think is going on and what what has been the
mindset of people that want training?
I think there's a large block of people that have been rather
ambivalent about the current events and Charlie's
assassination, I think woke a lot of people up.
And it's hard to talk about because I don't want to be
looking look like I benefit from this at all.
Matter of fact, I've cut all my prices to the point where
they're almost like losses for me to do them because we use
some indoor ranges, some outdoor ranges, and I just want people
to be able to protect themselves.
What are you teaching as far as mindset goes?
Because the weapon system is one thing, but knowing how to use it
and or when to use it or how to employ it is kind of the bigger
piece it seems like. Yeah, use the deadliest weapon
that you were born with, the brain that God gave you.
And if you don't have to go, don't go.
If you absolutely have to go, bring a friend.
If you have to go and bring a friend, have that friend bring a
weapon. So forth and so on.
And the motto of my little firearms training company is
stay out of the morgue, stay out of hospital, stay out of jail.
And it's hard to do all three of those things at once.
Yeah, fair enough. And are all the people that are
coming into your classes, are they generally conservative
leaning? Where is your training based out
of, if you don't mind me asking? And and.
Yeah, believe it or not, in the Democratic Socialist People's
Republic of Massachusetts, we're under represented in the state.
It's a completely Democrat controlled state, yet over 60%
of the state identifies as either Republican or
conservative. But these are people that have,
I guess for lack of a better word, given up and have come to
the realization that it may be difficult to live with people
and talk to people who want to kill you.
Yeah, that's a simple way of looking at it.
And I guess, I guess we had that moment that that kind of kicked
out. You mentioned the Charlie Kirk
assassination. Have you also seen the springing
up about the the 1st Amendment and, and people crying about
that and making this sort of false equivalence between death
and and and some comedian who was already rich?
That's hilarious isn't it? These people have no sense of
self-awareness at all. The Internet lives forever.
We can just replay clips going back over a decade.
These are the same people that cheered the COVID shutdowns.
These are the same people like Arnold Schwarzenegger who said
screw your freedom. They have no moral underpinning
at all to stand on. But yet they persist.
So we're going to do a quick little coverage of that because
yesterday we announced it in the morning and it turned out to be
the case in the evening. We had Jimmy Kimmel return to
the airwaves. There was a discussion about
that on Seth Meyers show with Jake Tapper.
So those guys are fairly competent propaganda.
So I wanted to kind of put out what the false victimization
looks like. And then we're going to talk
about some of the real issues that I think are actually kind
of scarier. This is maybe the information op
that's kind of doing cover story right now.
Here's Tapper and Meyer talking about the worst attack on free
speech that's ever happened in anyone's lifetime.
Apparently. Apparently.
All right, Jimmy Kimmel, he's a friend of both of ours.
You know him. I know him.
We know he's a good person. Obviously, this news is very
exciting. But what was your?
Original take on how this all went down starting last week.
I mean, I thought it was pretty. Much the most direct
infringement by the government on free speech that I've seen in
my lifetime. Networks are allowed to cancel
shows. It happens all the time.
But this was the FCC chairman saying, local affiliates, it's
time for you to say you're not going to air Kimmel anymore.
And then Next Star, which owned it with the largest owner of of
local affiliates, it needs approval from Brendan Carr
himself to to let this merger go through.
Yes, Sir. How high do you want me to jump?
Sir, they do it and it's just insane.
Yeah, it's just insane. It is.
I mean, I'm certainly we don't know the details as we're
talking about, you know, if any sort of agreement was reached or
if ABC just is sort of like, you know, there was an error in
judgment. But I sort of look forward to
seeing obviously how Jimmy responds.
That'll be the most interesting piece of this.
Yeah. And well, look, I, I don't know
why Disney and Bob Iger ultimately made the right
decision and stood for free speech.
They didn't initially. And that would have been the
second example because we all saw what happened with our
friend Stephen Colbert and and Sherry Redstone in Paramount
with a different merger and a different pressure point that
the government has did. You notice how many times he
says we don't know the specifics, we don't know the
details, but they have a lot of opinions at it.
Am I the only one who saw that? Yeah, absolutely.
And we do know the details and it is a mixed bag.
There's a lot of things going on here, you know, starting from
the top. The number one responsibility of
any business is to return value to the shareholders.
OK, So that's a simple business decision for getting rid of
Jimmy Kimmel. He was a loss on the balance
sheet on a nightly basis. So it's easy business decision.
Then the FCC chairman is, you know, has been seen wearing a
Romanesque sort of profile, gold pin profile shot of Donald
Trump, you know, so there's that optic that's not very attractive
to look at, you know, So there is that aspect of it.
And then there's the merger that's going through, again,
another business decision. So it is a mixed bag.
We do know exactly what's going on.
But at the end of the day, I'm a capitalist, unapologetic, and we
should come down on the side of that.
It was a business decision. And why Disney reverse
themselves, I have no idea. I guess they just have millions
of dollars to throw away. Last I checked, their attendance
at their theme park is down pretty significantly too, so I
didn't. Hear these guys?
They weren't crying about Gina Carano getting cancelled for her
speech. There were there's endless
examples of it, these people so. They didn't cry about anybody,
it's just they have, like I said, they have no moral
underpinning that they can stand on.
Yeah, that checks. I found it interesting that it's
Jake Tapper. Jake Tapper has been ACNN anchor
for a long time. Do you want to talk about,
because I haven't touched this in a while, if we've got some
people that are new to the audience, You spent a lot of
time in FBI skiffs. Is that an accurate statement?
Oh yeah, exclusively. OK, who's on TV?
What network is was on TV in your skiff?
For the skiff, it was either CNNMSDNC or nothing who turned
that there was actually agents during the Kavanaugh hearings,
mostly female agents standing like wrapped around in a
horseshoe circle watching the Kavanaugh hearings and and
shouting and screaming at the television set.
And they were in favor of Brett Kavanaugh.
They thought that somebody shouldn't be facing allegations
from 30 years ago that were unsubstantiated or something
else. Yeah, no, no, he was a threat to
all female kind around the globe and they were just absolutely
livid over it. And let's not forget Brett
Kavanaugh had threats on his life from, oh, a left winger.
So. Turns out I also saw something
pretty wild when I was in the Albuquerque division down in Las
Cruces and I had a very unhealthy overweight female
support employee screaming about how Kyle Rittenhouse was
acquitted. She was incredibly incensed on
it, didn't know any of the facts.
The case, by the way, it wasn't a law enforcement officer didn't
understand what self-defense look like, which is what you
teach. But she was super upset about
it. Of course, that was on CNN too.
We actually did have kind of a a good moment.
So I want to touch that when it when it's appropriate.
I'm not a Jimmy Kimmel fan. I don't really care what happens
to him at all. I think this is fake.
I think this is probably acting. But at least he's he's faking
the right thing. And sometimes you get credit
just for showing up and saying the thing that you you're
supposed to say. So here he is sort of doing an
acting routine and getting a little bit choked up.
I again, I think this is stage play, but he is saying the right
things about what Erica Kirk did at the memorial.
So we'll cover that real quick. A moment over the weekend, a
very beautiful moment. I don't know if you saw this on
Sunday. Erica Kirk forgave the man who
shot her husband. She forgave him.
That is an example we should follow.
If you believe in the teachings of Jesus, as I do.
There it was. That's that's it.
A selfless act of grace forgiveness from a grieving
widow. It touched me deeply and I hope
it it touches. Many.
And if there's anything we should take from this tragedy to
carry forward, I hope it can be that.
What do you think? Legit.
No, there's nothing about that man.
Legit, we've had over a decade to listen to his filth.
We know exactly where he stands. This is the same guy that did
girls on trampolines. So he's an opportunist.
That in and of himself doesn't make him a bad person, but we
know where he stands. That's fair.
He's talking about doing the right thing, being a follower of
Jesus. I think people that listen to
this can probably at least understand why that's such a
powerful statement to go out and do it.
And, you know, I don't have to, I don't have to agree with
everybody's decisions to say when someone does the right
thing that it's right. I also can see something that is
brewing in this country and the, and why we were there in the 1st
place, why we're having a discussion.
A man got up on a college campus, had a discussion with
students or people who decided to show up.
He took questions from an open mic.
And that was so dangerous that it involved someone climbing up
on a roof and shooting. Did you hear what just happened
in Dallas this morning? I did.
I saw it as it broke. I happened to be scrolling
through X as soon as it broke. I forget the the call sign call
letters for that station, but yeah, no, it's you know, this is
who they are. I think it's interesting though.
The guy supposedly offed himself the sniper on the roof.
So this will be interesting to. To yeah, let me I've got to grab
I grabbed it from Fox News doing their their breaking coverage of
this for folks that didn't understand what we'll kind of
talk about this and why I think that there's I think that we're
we're watching something on play, you know sort of unfold
right now in this country that is multifaceted.
And I gave you a list of topics that I wanted to kind of run
down and I think some of them are related to each other.
So we'll start with this one here.
This is apparently three people were shot.
We don't know who yet at an ICE facility in Dallas, TX.
More as we get it in particularly we're interested
obviously in learning about the conditions of the three
individuals that were struck this morning.
Yeah, that's that's I-35. The east side is where you see
most of the traffic people are probably slowing down to.
To to watch and see what's going on.
Look at all of the police cars. There's so many, so many lights
that go all the way up to the to the top of this is the Access
Rd. In Texas.
You have your main highway and then you always have those
access roads that run alongside or parallel to the highway.
Hey Griff, I also notice it's. More as we.
Yeah, that was super useful commentary.
What I wanted to show was the visual there.
First of all, that looks like there's probably maybe a dozen
closing on two dozen different law enforcement vehicles that
are responding to this. Somebody apparently from an
elevated position opened fire on an ICE facility with three
victims. Unclear who they are and what
their condition is at the moment as I went live with the show.
So that may be something folks see in the chat and and report
on to us as well. But elevated sniper positions is
not something. The last time I remember one of
those was the BLM 2016 shooting in Dallas.
Can you think of this being a common occurrence?
Maybe in the last 30 years? Someone getting?
Nothing. Not from an elevated position,
but wasn't there just a shooting just a few months ago at a
Dallas or Texas ice facility? I didn't have time to look it
up, but if memory serves it was probably less than six months
ago there was a shooting. It was in Texas.
I want to say that it was further South.
I think it was somewhere closer like maybe McAllen.
I'm now going from memory as well, but same story.
Some sort of an ambush ice facility, this sort of ongoing
discussion. Can you can you give a quick
overview of the term color revolution?
We'll hear people use it a lot, but do you, do you mind kind of
giving a quick synopsis of like what do people mean by that?
And where did it come from, if that's, if that's comfortable?
Yeah, sadly. It came from us.
It started in the the post Soviet states.
The first one was the Serbia's bulldozer revolution in 2000.
Then you had Georgia, the country's Rose Revolution in
2003. Then you had Ukraine's Orange
Revolution in 2004. And then you had the Kazakhstan
Tulip Revolution. That was in 2000.
But this emanates from USAID. This is one of the reasons that
people on the left were so upset when USAID was defunded.
So what these are are influence operations using social media
interlock interlocutors embedded in in the groups.
You know, in a way this is kind of like in a non kinetic
fashion. What are very own Green Berets?
Do they they weave themselves into the local population and
then provide direction and guidance towards an objective
that is suitable for the United States and outcome is suitable
for the United States. So the State Department and
USAID and our friends over at Langley have gotten very good at
this over the last in almost 10 years.
And then there's concerns that we may be seeing some elements
of a color revolution taking place in our own country because
government does what government does, which is take care of
government. And that's their primary
objective. They're almost like an entity
that that seeks to to, to continue to live above all else,
regardless of who they were sent to serve.
So you, you brought up Ukraine, you brought up the, the Green
Berets, that special forces. That's an Army unit.
There is another Army unit that's out there that's a little
bit more sort of shadowy. They used to be sort of without
they, they used to be in a kind of a Tier 2 category as a
support unit, but they've they've become a tier one
special mission unit in and of themselves.
You guys can find this publicly. This is not giving away any
secret information, but they were known as ISA or
intelligence support activity. They they also are commonly
known inside the Intel community as TF Orange or Task Force
Orange. They are also known sometimes as
the activity. There's a couple of other things
just like there's the unit and so on and so forth.
The Army has these out of Fort Meade, yes.
No, the orange is out of Fort Belvoir inside the Beltway.
It's it's part of that DC constellation of, of small
little bases around there. I had to go down to Fort Belvoir
for a reason I'm not going to disclose.
And I was very limited as to where I could go.
And, you know, I provided input to Presidential Daily briefs.
I had Red Stripe access. They're locked down pretty hard,
but they were created to support Delta that they see.
They have become really good at what they do and they've become
an entity in and of themselves. What is it that they do
overseas, if we can speak broadly, you know, what is
their, what is their sort of MO and, and, and what sort of tools
that you, you talked about interlocutors and whatnot and
I'm curious how that plays in overseas.
Yeah, they're mostly technical and and intelligence related,
but they also deploy energy director weapons which can cause
agitation and people that have those weapons beamed at them.
We saw some evidence, possible evidence of that being used in
Havana. There is talk about that maybe
Ed and and energy directed weapons were used during the
January 6th or sorry. Yeah, Yeah, you're correct.
Yeah. So that.
And some of the some of the stuff was, was Steve Baker's.
Reporting. They're stays, they're still in
the shadows and there are people, friends of ours, who are
trying to pull those curtains back, not to hurt the country,
but to make sure that these type of capabilities aren't used
against us. We so so colored revolution,
sort of a end of Cold War term, as you said, like it kind of
originates as a as an American intelligence activity trying to
sponsor and support the downfall.
Would you say things like Arab Spring kind of had that sort of
vibe as well, the sort of overthrow there, or do you think
that was something else? Well, the Arab Spring is
interesting. I mean, having had a kind of had
a front row seat on that both on the military side and at the FBI
side when that fruit vendor lit himself on fire in Tunisia.
And we watch that spread, and we watch people like Hillary
Clinton and Barack Obama openly cheer that as it went on.
And it took a while, but eventually it made its way to
Syria. I didn't think that that that
would happen. But, you know, Hillary cheered
it on. She was front and center with
the attacks on Libya to take down that government.
They toppled the Mubarak government, which was very
friendly to the United States. They installed Barack Obama's
friends, the Muslim Brotherhood, which the Egyptians even said,
no, we're not, we're not going to let these guys run the
country. And so I, I don't think, I don't
see evidence that the, the Task Force Orange was involved so
much in those revolutions because they did seem to, to
spark spontaneously, but then they received a lot of verbal
and moral support from our own elected officials.
All right, in the context of color revolution and
specifically the idea between color you mentioned that what
Tulip and rose revolutions as well.
So as I understand it, correct me if I'm wrong here, the the
goal is to basically unite a bunch of I don't activists in
the street that are able to recognize itself.
And same maybe not with a a formalized uniform, but with the
wearing of a colored bandana or having a specific colored
T-shirt on or having some sort of symbol, whether it be a rose
or a Tulip or anything else. So they were called color and
flower revolutions. As I saw them sort of
historically, we sort of just landed on color revolution as
being the term. With that in mind, this is one
of the most prominent protest organizations in America.
This is I'm taking this on, on the authority of the people that
have grabbed this clip. This was a one hour long call
discussing trying to unite the resistance against
authoritarianism and Donald Trump under a very specific type
of self recognition. Me same you, same pattern.
I don't want your reaction to this.
These are two people that are that are on a call here.
That is a Zoom call. That was a nationwide call I
think last week. Kathy asked a question that is a
hot topic of debate internally. Leah, we need a national symbol
of unity to stand against authoritarianism or for pro
democracy. I'm interested in using purple
bandanas. It's not about being red or
blue. It's about standing in
solidarity with each other for a democracy.
How can we as a group come up with something we can stand
behind? So we, we have had this
conversation internally and with a lot of the New Kings coalition
and other folks and we're circling around an idea that
Leah, we're not allowed to fully announce anything yet.
I mean, so we're we're actually. I would just say we, we agree
this is a gap and one of the backing and trying to figure out
is like what, what's getting organic pick up that we can
start to pull out and, and capitalize on, right?
And so thinking about things that we're seeing pop on the
Internet, things that we're seeing start to like take off in
places like Reddit, the color yellow, yellow and black have
come up a lot, which is obviously very like, you know,
kind of people taking pieces of the Know Kings logo and running
with it as a color scheme. We agree this is like a need.
And what we really want to do is try to figure out like.
What's? Already starting to organically
take off that we can collectively come in together on
but but we hear you and we think this is something that we're
very much thinking about.
Right now what? Do you make of that?
She said it about over a half a dozen times, organic, organic,
organic and that's where you plant the seeds for these color
revolutions with inside that self generating and self
perpetuating organic movement which is pretty widespread in
this country today. It's accelerating.
I'm not Co opting the the acceleration as movement, but
they actually are part of this. But this is about taking that
organic uprising and then starting to organize it and then
using human nature against us. I think you covered it the other
day. You didn't use the term, but
fear of missing out where people just want to might have been
Nick Giordano. I can't remember that.
People just feel like, Oh my God, I need to get in on this.
And they they just check all their own critical thinking and
beliefs and go right along with the mob.
This is how mobs and riots start.
You know, if you pull somebody out of a George Floyd riot, not
everybody and and asked them like, why are you here?
What are you doing? Chances are they some of those
people would not be able to explain it.
It's just like I just had to. I had just had to join in.
They just want to be part of something.
This concept of being on the right side of history seems like
something people talk about a lot of times.
Yeah, they they suffer from the Joe Biden syndrome, fear of
missing out, FOMO. OK.
I'm, I'm going to make some, some links here.
We had a shooting in Dallas. We don't know what the the
background is, but it is a shooting and it is at an ICE
facility. And that tells us maybe a little
bit of something about the targeting.
Yeah. And obviously somebody very
specifically got up on a building and took aim at a very
specific location. We'd have to assume that they
knew what they were shooting at. We've got these people on some
national protest call talking about getting a symbolism.
They're backing the No Kings rally.
Do we do a purple bandana because it's a combination of
red and blue? Do we do yellow and black, which
seems to be like sort of like the Antifa?
I've seen a lot of Antifa stuff that's either red and black or
yellow and black. And then you got this guy a
probable contender in 2028 for for the presidential run on the
Democrat side. Gavin Newsom is making these.
I've got 2 clips from Gavin Newsom that I'm going to want
your reflection on as well. And I and I seem to see these
being connected. As a Democratic Party, we have a
lot of work to do to make up for our failures in the past.
We got crushed in this last election, and now we're in a
position where we are struggling to communicate.
We're struggling to win back now the majority in the House of
Representatives. And that's a big part of what
I'm doing, not just today in terms of the work out here,
raising money, but also raising awareness around how Donald
Trump is trying to rig the midterm elections and how I fear
that we will not have an election in 2028.
I really mean that. And the core of my soul, unless
we wake up to the Code Red, what's happening in this
country, and we wake up soberly to how serious this moment is.
This is maybe the 4th politician on the Democrat side that I've
heard say that there will be a rigged midterm election and
therefore potentially no 2028 election.
What are they doing with that language do you think?
They're laying the groundwork for public shoot.
Let's alert disobedience, mass public disobedience, that the
people that govern over us, over us have no authority.
Remember this started with rich slave owning white men had no
moral standing to to construct the constitutional framework.
Our country is fatally flawed. Now they're ready to lay on that
other layer of bricks saying that the current crop of
politicians also has no moral standing, no legal standing to
govern this country. Therefore, if your government
has no legal standing to govern, then you're easily manipulated
into You have a moral responsibility to, and we've
heard this word before, resist. They're doing sort of a
delegitimization, OP, it sounds like using language saying that
if, And these are the same people that talk about democracy
endlessly, right? And so if your, if your
democratic vote doesn't count in the same way, then you have no
other choice but to choose the alternative, which is something
I've heard the right use for the last couple years.
And these guys immediately fell into the same sort of game.
It's interesting you brought up the slavery and the
legitimization of, of, of the Constitution writ large because
it was written by certain people.
I haven't listened all the way through this because it's hard
to listen to because it's Hillary Clinton.
But this just was something on Morning Joe and I grabbed it
because she's talking about the quote UN quote more perfect
union. And she brings up slavery as one
of those things that apparently is getting whitewashed.
And that's another thing they talk about.
If we forget our history, which they don't seem to know in the
1st place, then suddenly it gives them a reason to to push
back and and create their own fake history.
Just let's do a reflection of this two of our most loathsome
creatures there, the Hillary Clinton and Gavin Newsom types.
And I'm proud of the fact that we have always been a work in
progress. You know, we haven't gotten to
the more perfect union. And we fought a civil war over
part of it. And people have been protesting,
you know, for hundreds of years that, you know, things were not
as they should be given our ideals and how we should be
moving toward them. So I think that's what makes us
so special as a country. And the idea that you could turn
the clock back and try to recreate a world that never was
dominated by, you know, let's say it white men of a certain
persuasion, a certain religion, a certain point of view, a
certain ideology is just doing such damage to.
What we should? Be aiming for and we were on the
path toward that. I mean imperfectly lots of, you
know, bumps along the way, but I agree with you.
We were on the right trajectory. What?
Do you think about that? Again, the little smile on her
face was calling people of a certain persuasion.
The smirk was a priceless, typical classic Hillary, but
again, delegitimizing the fundamental underlying
foundations of the country, which is the Constitution and
the Bill of Rights. So she she's sweeping that away,
which is what the communist playbook is.
You need to sweep the way everything in order to be able
to build on what it is you want to build, which is a Marxist
communist utopia. They specifically, we, we
started off talking about the shooting that just happened at
the ICE facility. And interestingly enough, Gavin
Newsom just signed a bill that said everybody who is in law
enforcement must take off their mask.
You and I know that based on the supremacy clause in the
Constitution of the way that the FBI and the DHS and and the
other sort of DOJ or DHS entities work, they're not going
to listen to what California State law is.
Just like they don't care what kind of firearm you're allowed
to carry in California. It's irrelevant when they do
their own work. But it's interesting that he's
out there sort of highlighting this.
So I'm going to play you a Gavin Newsom clip.
Same same interview he was sitting on this was on CBS and
he starts talking specifically about masking.
And you'll notice that he strangely leaves out the people
and the Antifa types that were wearing masks for the last
couple years and have no problem like putting on a COVID mask and
then doing violence. So I'll just kind of we'll kind
of compare these things here to. That's happening in the United
States of America. Masked men jumping out of
unmarked cars, people disappearing.
No due process, no oversight, 0 accountability happening in the
United States of America today. People ask, well, is
authoritarianism. You're being hyperbolic.
We're being hyperbolic. If you're a black and brown
community, it's here in this country.
And so I, I'm deeply proud that I had the privilege of signing
the nation's first bill to address the issue of masking.
Also, to require you have simple identification to your point, I
mean, if some guy jumped out of an unmarked car in a van with a
mask on, tried to grab me, I mean, by definition, you're
going to push back. And so this, these, these are
not just authoritarian tendencies.
These are authoritarian actions by an authoritarian government.
You saw what Stephen Miller said last week.
This should put chills up. Fine.
Called the Democratic Party an extremist organization.
He's basically a terrorist organization saying he's going
after his enemies. You saw the tweet that Donald
Trump sent out, true social, basically telling Pam Bondi, I
want these three people taken out.
That's happening in the United States.
Isn't that interesting? They they Telegraph these moves
and it turns out if you push on certain buttons, certain people
start acting in a very specific way.
He's supposedly he's actually very bright, but he memorizes
things and therefore he cannot respond to direct questioning.
So once you get him outside of that, apparently he's like a
turtle on its back, which is something it would be fun to see
if he decides to run for president.
But he's he's lying and gaslighting all in the same.
I guess in some ways are kind of the same, but he's creating the
foundational framework for terrifying everybody, half the
not half the country, but saying that they're just randomly
picking up people that aren't as white as I am off the street.
And everybody knows that's a bold faced lie.
But Stephen Colbert and him and they put this out there and you
know, we're talking about, you know, when that woman was
talking about organic, you know, we're talking about low
information voters. We're talking about the
suspension of critical thinking the the inability to read
anything like that One not so manly man.
That was on a video clip you put down you posted.
I saw all the books behind them. If that wasn't a computer
generated image, I'll bet you there wasn't one contrarian book
that did not go against his belief system.
That was a that was a like an indoctrination starter pack.
I saw all of them. They were about activism.
They were about left wing activism specifically.
And for whatever I could read on there, I saw exactly the same
thing you did. And those aren't there by
accident. Those are virtue signals to the
people that are listening. This is my.
Background. Therefore, therefore what I say
counts. Right.
I have legitimacy. And in the same way, what we
heard was Gavin Newsom basically saying because of these masks,
because they are quote, UN quote, scared to show their
faces when they're doing law enforcement, which federal
agents operate differently than police officers.
Police officers interact with you because you may have
imminently committed a, a specific crime.
You rolled through a stop sign. You didn't use a blinker when
you turned. We now have probable cause to
stop you and give you a traffic violation.
And maybe we'll interview you about something else.
But that's not how federal law enforcement works.
Federal law enforcement actions are targeted.
They're long term. You've worked on the Intel side
of it. I've worked on the kinetic side
of it, where you know, we're not going out there just randomly
encountering a member of the public and then finding out what
happens next. We know that's what's happening.
Right. And, and so he's, he's, he's
playing on a low information group of people that think that
police and federal investigators are doing the same type of work.
The sad thing is, is I feel like Kash Patel's actually playing
into that too. This whole like, let your good
cops, let cops be cops. That's not what the FBI is.
You were there for 11 years. Did you see people who are our
FBI agents as cops? Did they ever describe themself
that way? No, they were armed
investigators so that when we had special events, you know,
whether it be the Marathon or the Boston Pops or whatever, and
they were out, you know, in plain clothes working amongst
the crowd. They would always be partnered
with usually like a Sergeant or somebody from local Police
Department because they're not really well trained on doing
Terry stops and, you know, interdicting something, you
know, as is being witnessed. So that they're not, I'm sure
somebody's going to push back and say, wow, I, I worked a
special event and it was just me and another special agent doing
it. OK, fine.
I'm just saying what I observed in Boston for over a decade was
that we were always partnered with somebody who actually
worked in public safety, who has training and experience in that
sphere. And often times they have
different authorities. I mean, not often times all the
time, but yeah. So if you're, if you're a, an
FBI agent, if you're ADHS, you know, 1811, you don't actually
have the authority except for policy wise.
They say if you witness a violent felony, that would be a
felony under state, which you didn't study.
You know, if you, if a common person would believe that what
they're witnessing is a violent felony, then they can intercede
and policy empowers them. But there's no, there's no
actual federal statute that backs that up.
No, if they were cops they would be pulling people over for
blowing through a stoplight in their G ride.
They're not police, they're not public safety.
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I'm still reconsidering too. Yeah.
Like I'm trying to decide if I ever need just to throw on the
top chest rig. Yeah, I mean, if I think
somebody's going to be shooting back at me, I prefer Level 4,
but if I need to go out and check something out quick, chest
rig's a nice idea. OK, let's dig back in.
What I want to do is I want to actually pick your brain about
this. Antifa is a domestic terrorist
organization. What that means, what it doesn't
mean, what that looks like from the Intel side with sort of tool
boxes. Before we do that, let's also
play this other clip from Hillary Clinton, which is
fantastic stuff. She's actually trying to help
the problem. She wants to turn down the
rhetoric 'cause she just wants to not demonize the other side,
except for maybe the political right.
George, you listen from You tell me if she's actually turning
down the rhetoric or if this is just more sort of hiding behind
virtue and taking potshots. That raises a larger question.
I mean, we have, and I include myself, we have got to stop
demonizing each other. Yeah.
Now, I think most of that right now in our country's history is
coming, you know, from the right, coming from people who
want to dominate. They want their point of view,
their right, you know, writing out slavery from history.
That doesn't make it go away. You know, we have got to stop
with the finger pointing and the scapegoating.
We can have legitimate disagreements, right?
I mean, how do you provide quality, affordable healthcare
to everybody? Let's figure.
Figure that out how? Do you deal with what's going to
be job loss from AI? Let's get working on that.
You know that's what we should be doing, but we should do it in
the truth based reality, right? That am I crazy or did she say
we can have the conversations as long as they're about the things
that I think are and I frame the arguments so that they favor my
position is that. Not you know what she reminds me
of that that clip reminds me of. I'm sure it's in a comedy movie
somewhere of the bully beating up the little kid holding his
wrist and using the little kids hit fit hand to hit his own
face. Like stop hitting yourself, stop
hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself.
That's right. It, it, it, you know, I want, I
want to make sure that we, we don't demonize anybody.
But most of the ugly stuff is coming from the right.
As long as we can just agree on that, then we can stop
demonizing each other. That was incredible stuff.
Let's talk about Antifa because Donald Trump there, he's always
the punching bag on this. This is authoritarian, blah,
blah, blah. He just said signed an executive
order. Antifa is now going to be listed
as a domestic terrorist organization.
Is that a real designation that exists in law enforcement in
your experience? I've never seen one.
OK, so no such thing as a we have what's called FT OS, right?
Right. What is an FTO?
Foreign terrorist organization and that opens up a whole giant
toolbox of of tools that are available from the national
level on down. What is?
What is the designations? Where does it come from?
What are the criteria that go along with that?
Yeah. So I mean, they have to be
engaged in, you know, asymmetric activities to influence a
political outcome where it's gotten bastardized.
Is it that we call groups like, for example, the Taliban a
terrorist organization when their primary focus is to drive
invaders from Afghanistan? So in order really to be a true
terrorist organization, you have to be operating outside
essentially of where you live, because then you fall into the
category, and this is where people screw language up and
they call them, well, one man's terrorist is another man's
freedom fighter. That is not that's not correct
either from a legal standpoint or from a dictionary standpoint.
A freedom fighter is working with inside their own country to
overthrow either an authoritarian regime or an
invader. You know, even just.
Stuff I don't like, it doesn't have to be any particular
freedom fighter equals I have a certain perspective, You don't
have that perspective. I want that perspective in my
own country, yeah. Right, right.
So. But Antifa is actually a global
organization, so why not then go ahead and designate them as a
FTO, as a foreign terrorist organization, which, and I'm not
advocating for this, I'm just saying it gives the
administration a lot more authorities to to go after them
more aggressively. So calling them a domestic
terror organization, I wouldn't be surprised if I see the
administration change that designation to an FTO.
Which is the same thing they did to the to the drug cartels.
And it opens up a suite of tools.
It also probably opens up some national security monitoring and
some signals intelligence gathering capabilities that
that's kind of concerning in some ways to me.
No, no, that's what I'm saying. I'm not advocating for it.
I'm just saying that if, if you want to be pure in, in your,
your logic, since they're, they operate internationally, you
know, we see them in the Netherlands at the riots the
other day in France as well in Paris, burning things on the
street, burning buildings. We saw black block out in force
in those two countries just earlier in the week.
They're absolutely an FTO with a cell that's operating here in
the United States. You know, so then if you want to
get a FISA on something like that, you're going to have to be
able to show, which really doesn't matter because our seems
like our FISA court judges don't give a damn, but you're going to
have to show them communicating with organizations outside the
United States in order to get. Some sort of, yeah, some sort of
comms foreign Nexus. I am.
I do have a method to the madness this morning.
People are not paying attention. Obviously the, the title of
today's program is about the Secret Service farms, the secret
SIM server farms found by the US Secret Service in in New York.
And I'm going to get to that. And the, the reason why it's
going to be at the end of the program is because we have so
little information about what it is and what the capabilities
are. So George and I are talking
about some of the things that I see that I think are related at
least in the the potential threat.
And then when you add to the end of it, we're going to talk about
what the Intel gaps are and what we don't know about what was
reported, which was very, very little.
And, and some of that I think is the wildest thing I want to
continue on the information op game.
We, we briefly touched in Antifa, there's another
information op that's going on. And that is exactly what Hillary
Clinton just did, framing a specific narrative and doing so
very repetitively. We called it the illusory truth
effect. I've done a lot of talk about
that. If you repeat, that's the the
old game. If you repeat the lie long
enough, it becomes the truth. It's not really the truth.
It just becomes the thing that people believe and it becomes
harder to to, to, to shake away. And we're talking about low
information people, potentially low IQ people.
One of those people strikes me as this representative who has
always held up as a civil rights icon.
But he's either a disingenuous actor or he's not that bright.
And I'm not willing to speculate 'cause I don't know him
personally. His public persona seems
intentionally, let's say, obtuse to be very nice about it.
This was a discussion that was brought up about Jimmy Kimmel, a
discussion that was brought up about Charlie Kirk.
And I would say this is that weird false equivalency between
losing your show when you're worth $20 million a year in a
contract and being shot in the chest and take it away from your
children. So this this ongoing sort of
false equivalency is being played.
First of all, the collective anger.
Over someone losing their job from the left was way more than
someone who lost his life first and foremost, second of all.
I would argue, Congressman, you're absolutely right.
It's more important to have an open and honest, fair, robust
conversation, getting different viewpoints when you have a
global pandemic that came in from China that was unforeseen,
that was unprecedented and no one ever thought possible.
On top of that, it's always the Republicans.
It's always conservative views that get silenced, shadow band
censored from these various algorithms.
The glitches never. Cut the other way.
The mess ups in the coding never skew against Democrats.
It's always conservative. So Jimmy Kimmel coming back to
air fine. It was a business decision made
by the parent company when he clearly wasn't going to
apologize. He wasn't going to say he lied
even though he clearly did. The facts were already out there
that it was not a MAGA shooter. He tried to make it so so.
They have every right to kick him off the air and they have
every right to bring him back on.
And Brad and I are going to disagree here.
I don't care how many jokes he tells about conservatives versus
liberals. I don't care how many guests he
has on whether they be more conservatives or more liberals.
The marketplace will decide his fate and his future.
And if he can't get ratings, as he can't now, chances are his
days are short on ABC. They don't like that very much.
George, he's, he's making a reference to a, a recent
decision by Google to basically say that yes, they did censor
people for political speech. They did censor people that were
on YouTube and they are now rescinding those bans.
So you're starting to see maybe a roll out.
A lot of this came out over COVID-19.
So that was the quick touch on that.
We saw a lot of this sort of messaging campaign happen.
And for those of us that were paying attention in and out of
the government, there was obviously a, a heavy hand.
That's what we learned in the Twitter Files, that the FBI
specifically, but also the rest, the Intelligence Committee, was
trying to push their narrative that they liked best for some
reason. Unclear why.
Was Elvis Chan contacted ahead of Google's decision to do this?
Great question. Unknown.
Sounds like he was able to go out into retirement on his own,
so he was able to walk away off the GS15.
Nice, nice. Good for him.
It's always nice yeah I mean, you know, apology kind of
doesn't bring very. It doesn't ring true after
you've wrecked people's subscriber base and income
stream. It's like we saw already wrecked
your life. But no, we're back.
You can come back now. It's like the restaurants that
were shut down said you can't have any customers come in for a
year or two years or three years unless you play by something
that is not going to be able to be conducive for business.
But now we're sorry and we've changed our mind and we were
wrong back then. So why don't you restart your
business up from nothing? But that's how the government
does it, right? They break your leg and then
they put it in a plaster cast and say you should be thankful.
Well, Jim Jordan says yeah. Jim Jordan says we should thank
him because he had a great victory for us.
So that's helpful. This is a Fox News story about
it. Does the new policy from Google,
which is also known by its parent company Alphabet, could
affect both average users and well known figures like FBI
Director Dan Bongino and the White House counterterrorism
chief Sebastian Gorka. War Room podcast host Steve
Bannon and all others who were permanently banned in recent
years for COVID-19 or other election related content
reflecting the company's commitment to free expression.
Google, AKA YouTube, will provide an opportunity for all
creators to rejoin the platform if the company terminated their
channels for repeated violations of COVID-19 or or elections
integrity policies which are no longer in effect.
What? How do you read that?
Well, I noticed first he left out Amazon Web Service for
crushing Parlor, you know, so not all the guilty have been
punished here and it's just a fundraising tool.
That's, I'm sorry, I'm cynical, but you know, having been down
this road that I've proceeded onto in good faith and was left
with a giant, you know what sandwich.
That's all. My friends get screwed over it.
It means nothing. Nice words, though.
It makes for a good sort of sternly written letter or a
victory claim for the for the folks in the the judiciary.
Here's the other piece of this this pervasive the man wasn't
was a racist, so you can't excuse his history.
We're going to try to do the false equivalency between
someone being canceled for speech and then someone being
killed. And at the same time, we're also
going to argue that, you know, he was killed for speech that
was actually really, really bad. And we're having very notable
public figures go out there and try to reclaim that ground.
And I'm watching this happen, and I'm thinking these people
are probably too smart to actually be saying things this
dumb. But I'll let the audience make a
decision. I'm not going to decide.
You know what you guys think about how smart Representative
Clyburn is in this case? I'll tell you one thing we do
know, though, is that when Melissa Hortman, the speaker of
the of the Minnesota Legislature, was shot, there was
a commemorative resolution in the Congress and every
Republican voted for it. When Charlie Kirk was
assassinated for his political beliefs, there were 58 Democrats
who would not vote for a resolution to honor him So, and
that was one of them. Why do you think it was?
I don't mind on an end about his life.
I've got a problem with their legacy, and I know what the
legacy of Kirk was. When I turn on my TV and I see
someone telling me what an awful person Martin Luther King Junior
was, when I see somebody that's telling me if I get on an
airplane and there's a black pilot, I begin to wonder, is he
qualified? What does that mean?
That's those are the words that came out of his mouth.
That's not what he said and that.
That's exactly what he said. I got the exact quote.
It's not in context at all what he was talking about.
It was a conversation. About.
Affirmative action. You know that, Congressman.
This has been well litigated and well developed.
The same all about Brassy was about affirmative action.
So what's wrong with affirmative action?
No, look, you're telling me that when I came out of college and
couldn't get a job, that is because I was not qualified.
That's not what I'm saying. But what are you saying?
What I'm saying is Charlie Kirk was very clear.
If these companies openly say that they have to somehow fill a
quota of people, whether it be a race or gender, not based on
merit, but based on their race or gender, the obvious should be
clear to everyone, which is, is that person then qualified?
So it's just an obvious question because of the bar that the
corporation itself set up by saying publicly we're going to
do this type of DEI hiring, then you have to wonder is it because
of their race or their generous? That's my favorite.
That's that's when I, I don't know who's wanting to tune into
a bunch of people going, but you know, the minute you say
something that drops the the hammer on these people, that's
where they go with it. It's kind of fun to watch.
What's your initial reaction? And by the way, Katanji Jackson
Brown, he just threw that out there.
What do you think of Katanji Jackson Brown as a as a as a mic
drop? I agree with Amy Coney Barrett
that Katanji Brown is out of her depth and she is not
intellectually up to the task of being a Supreme Court Justice
and maybe not even up to the task of being a judge.
It it doesn't mean that I'm a racist.
I'm just looking at the her opinions I've written, you know,
read what she's written. She's just very unimpressive.
Just like I read Joe Biden's doctoral thesis.
I was unimpressive, too. And we all saw that video the
other day. It went viral on Instagram and
Twitter of a female soldier failing to operate an M240
machine gun and almost kill everybody around her.
You know, we put people in these positions to everyone's
detriment to include their own. Well, I'm going to push back and
let you know that probably you are racist based on some racist
people saying something in just one second here.
But before I do that, I'm going to break away and I'm advise
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I'm going to give George a run for his money here if you guys
are cool with that. But first, before the run for
your money, let me just point out that it's not good for the
goose. It's not good for the gander.
Misinformation and saying false things and using not context and
all that stuff. It's totally acceptable for
talking about Charlie Kirk. What it's not acceptable about
is a global pandemic, right? This goes to that Google
censorship thing. I just want you to track the
logic here and see if you can. Here's Clyburn again.
I don't know if he's a bad actor or if he's or if he's
unintelligent and just can't grasp how funny this is.
He does this 180 here. Well, I don't think they're the
same simply because Biden, if any of this took place, these
weren't jokes. This wasn't ATV show.
This was a pandemic, and we didn't need to have
misinformation going out about this pandemic.
There was enough coming from the president at the time.
What put Clorox in your veins? That's the kind of foolishness
the Biden. Do you want?
Did you remember when he was telling, when Trump was telling
people? The Clorox in the veins?
Unbelievable. And to take what was it fish
tank cleaner or some, you know, baloney like that?
I mean, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, The thing is, is good ideas and bad ideas need to be
exposed to full sunlight. And at the end of the day, the
good ideas are going to be the only ones that survive, and they
refuse to allow the marketplace of ideas to be, you know, fully
vetted by the country. And shame on him.
He gave this country Joe Biden. He handed it to Joe Biden, a
man. I'm talking about Joe Biden now,
who referred to J Byrd, Senator Byrd, a former grand Wizard of
the KKK, as his North Star, as his moral guidance.
These are horrible people. Well, Speaking of horrible
people, maybe two of the worst people in public life in the
media space are Don Lemon and Joy Reid.
Both of them lost their programs and now they are relegated to
the thing that I'm doing. They're doing podcasts, they're
doing man on the street, and they're letting you know that
they are probably the smartest people except for Katanji
Jackson Bryan. She's actually smarter as.
Smart as I know my ass is, Katanji Brown is smarter.
Smartest person I've ever met in my life.
You smart, I'm smart. that Lady is smart on a level I've never
seen before. And her three roommates were
even smarter. These girls were so smart that
we were shocked that we'd ever met anybody that intelligent.
And Amy Coney Barrett, on the other hand, is a Supreme Court
Justice just like Katanji, even though her qualifications are
miniscule compared to Katanji's. Maybe that's the affirmative
action we've been getting. White people who are essentially
mediocre in scale compared to a black person getting the spot
because they wanted a conservative.
Maybe the way that JD Vance got into Yale is because they were
tired of just letting in white men from New York, from Choke,
from all the elite schools, and they wanted an Appalachian
white. That's how that man got into
Yale. I promise you.
Same thing with Ron DeSantis from a small town in Florida.
They wanted to just get out of the New York DC matrix,
Massachusetts matrix and let somebody into Harvard and Yale
who came from a different place. He came from Florida, baby.
That's also affirmative action in DEI.
So before y'all start going crazy about DEI, just meaning
they let black people in just on the basis of being black, think
a little more critically and think about the fact that it's
also disabled people, military veterans, people who come from
Appalachia, white folks who come from Alaska and different places
that they don't normally come from, indigenous people,
Latinos, Asians. And the last thing I'll say
about this for all the y'all people on Fox that are going to
clip this because y'all mad about affirmative action because
yes, I embrace affirmative action because I belonged at
Harvard and I was smarter than all the legacies I went to
school with who only were there because they were rich and their
parents had a name on one of the buildings and they didn't go to
class and I did. So I'm just going to let y'all
know that we see affirmative action as these schools
searching for people they wouldn't have ordinarily found
without deliberately looking for us.
They would have just let the same mediocre white men from
rich families in but. I'm convinced.
There's nothing in her argument that could withstand 2 seconds
of scrutiny. This is the same woman who
insisted on her show every night that Joe Biden was firing on all
8 cylinders and was running circles around everyone.
So you know what you know? May God have mercy on her soul
like she's a horrible human being.
It's so simple. That's it, OK.
That is the broad grasp that I have of the information on we're
we're seeing people set up as victim despite not being
victims. We're seeing pick people that
are looking for a way to unify behind a color, a bandana or
some sort of symbol. We're seeing official messaging
coming in from politicians, whether they be in Congress or
whether they be in the executive branch out in California.
Take your pick. I've seen leaders in the in the
the Senate to say the same thing.
Everybody's saying there's authoritarianism and we've got
to to do something. Federal government has been
delegitimized because we're not in charge of it.
They're wearing masks and they're very, very bad.
And all of that happens. And then we get this story and I
want analysis on what this could mean.
What we know, it actually does from what we hear.
And then maybe some of your biggest concerns, George, This
is the breaking story from yesterday that is still not
making front page news everywhere, even though it seems
like it ought to. CNN has learned about a plot
that could have overwhelmed the city's cellular communications.
What began as an investigation into swatting by the Secret
Service LED them to a server farm, and it's.
One that could be remotely operated by foreign governments
and criminals. And this could go far beyond
swatting. So what we do know is that
foreign governments and criminals located in the United
States are using this network to run their organizations.
That includes cartels, that includes human traffickers, that
includes terrorists are on this network.
We're joined now by Juliette Kayam.
I don't want to be joined by Juliette Kayam.
I want to hear what George Hill. What do you see as the
information that was actually given?
I've got one more clip from Matthew Mccool and he what a
cool name. By the way, that was the that
was the special agent in charge of the New York field office for
US Secret Service and and he looks like Clark Kent.
For those of you that are just listening.
He has like the glasses got the haircut.
What? What do you make of the What we
actually know information? That's a press release that
tells us absolutely nothing. He tells us who it was used by,
OK, Does he? Hopefully we'll see some
evidence of that at at some point in time.
Doesn't tell us who put them there.
Doesn't tell us who rented the half dozen apartments to put
them in there. Doesn't tell us who signed the
lease. Doesn't tell us if any foreign
governments are using any of this.
And my biggest concern is, are there others around the country?
He doesn't tell us exactly how they, quote, discovered this.
Were they using a Stingray running around New York City?
A Stingray, for those who don't know, is basically a phony cell
tower that causes cell phones to connect to it.
So that for use for further exploitation.
We use them in aircraft that the the defense in this Defense
Department does. It's called a man in the middle.
It poses as a cell phone tower. So we use a Stingray on the
ground. They were used extensively in
Iraq and Afghanistan. Did they use them on a Stingray
and what prompted that? Was that part of their normal
security protocols? I don't know.
I'm not with Secret Service. Maybe Dan Bongino can tell us.
Did they get a tip from a foreign government?
So that there's a myriad of questions here and it goes
beyond just information operations and a color
revolution in this country. Is it part of a kinetic attack?
So some of the that can be answered to some extent if they
find them in other countries or I'm sorry, other parts of our
country. You and I know and I'm not going
to give it out here, but there is a three digit code that FBI
can use to get to the front of the line during a crisis when
using their cell phone. Because in a mass attack,
especially, you know, a kinetic attack involving loss of life
and injury, destruction of property, the cell phone system
is going to be overwhelmed. We saw that happen on the
marathon bombing. We saw what happened during 911.
But the cell phone network really was kind of almost in its
nation stages in 2001. But it can happen.
It can happen very easily and it could certainly have been made
to what happened with what was set up there in New York City.
So sadly, like you said, Kyle, it it's it's off of the it's out
of the news cycle. We're in Dallas now on a on a
shooting. And you know, this is going to
be sideline, just like Butler has been sidelined and just like
the the pipe bomb has been sidelined or the cocaine in the
White House or or whatever you want to talk about.
Whatever the media and our government officials, our
bureaucrats in federal law enforcement, they don't want to
talk about it. That was yesterday.
It was yesterday. This is the the piece.
So Mccool actually went out and made an official statement.
This is something from Newsweek, but it sounds like he sat down
and did like a like a TikTok tile video.
So I want to play that as well. It's a slightly more information
and then it still leaves us with all these questions like you
just said. And then I'm going to add
something on top of that because we had the discussion you and I.
Does this mean we're talking about very organized criminal
cells? Are we talking, you know,
cartel, transnational organized crime?
Are we talking about trans are foreign terrorist organizations
because that's pretty specific and and also pretty
sophisticated for them or are we looking at like nation state
actors depending on how many of these turn up?
Let's do the Secret Service director 1st and we'll come back
to it. We are making this announcement
as a matter of public interest given timing, amount and
concentration of material recovered during a recent Secret
Service protective intelligence investigation following multiple
telecommunications related imminent threats directed
towards senior U.S. government officials.
This spring, the US Secret Service began A protective
intelligence investigation to determine the extent and impact
these threats could have on protective operations.
The investigation LED us to the New York tri-state area where
investigators discovered 10s of thousands of Co located and
network cellular devices capable of carrying out nefarious
telecommunications attacks. These devices allowed anonymous
encrypted communications between potential threat actors and
criminal enterprises, enabling criminal organizations to
operate undetected. There's so little in there.
The thing that I saw him, the Nexus, I guess the Secret
Service, because this has been a question you and I have, like,
why the hell was the Secret Service investigating this?
And they don't actually seem to say, but they said protective
intelligence investigation. He said it twice.
Exactly, and the faint towards, you know, criminal enterprises,
criminal enterprises do use those sorts of setups, but not
to this magnitude. That is a lot of money to rent a
half a dozen apartments in New York City for, you know, even
though a criminal enterprise can can, can do it, what they go for
is high ROI return on investment.
So just to throw that out there that it's a criminal enterprise.
I'm sorry, you're going to have to show me some receipts.
And and yeah, unless they're doing some sort of high volume
scam operation and that's where, you know, I think a lot of us
have gotten these things. I get these spoof text messages
saying they're coming in from the toll service and they say,
oh, you're, you got a Texas phone number, so you, you owe us
tolls. I click on this.
Is this what they're talking about?
Is that a self funding operation where if they can send out, you
know, 10 million text messages and they scam 15 people for
several $1000 each, is that how they're winning?
But again, I don't know why Secret Service is running it
down specifically. The claim was, is that MTG and
some other high profile Republicans had been swatted and
somehow this played into that. So this was maybe an anonymizer
on this. The Intel gaps that you see
specifically, can you kind of name them out like and, and
maybe tell people what an Intel gap is so they understand what
we're talking about here? You want to start collecting
evidence. So basically it's empirical
what's right in front of you, what you can show to someone
else and they're say, yeah, that's a, that's a gun or
whatever, or yes, that's an IP address.
So you're going to start, you're going to be able to start with
all that. You're going to be able to start
with, you know, the maker of the SIM cards, the hardware, who
signed the lease, things of that nature.
Then gaps are going to start to manifest themselves like, well,
who, how, who, how did this lease come about?
How the payments been made? You know, they'll just start to
list themselves. And then you try to go ahead and
fill those in. It's kind of like starting a
crossword puzzle where you start with your corners and your
perimeter, and then you start to fill in the mosaic as it comes
along. But everything that's missing is
an intelligence gap. So he's throwing things out
there and he may very well know that it's a criminal enterprise.
I don't know. We don't.
We do know that from the size and the scale of that, it would
certainly serve a nation state very well.
We do know that the usual actors have very robust capabilities.
So I'll just just list them in no particular order, but you
know, Russia, China, Iran and the Democratic People's Republic
of North Korea, they all have robust cyber capabilities.
So did this investigation come about as threats against
Marjorie Taylor Green and and other quote, right wing
politicians? I don't know what a right wing
politician is, but that's their term.
And if it did, why would Secret Service be investigating threats
against, you know, congressional representatives?
They're not that lead investigative authority for
that. They don't really have this
capability. Oddly enough, I did see United
States Postal Service having that capability, but they're
overwhelmed with the war on drugs.
So I don't know. It's just we'll see.
Yeah. So, you know, just to just to
hone it down. Any dark holes on this one?
No, but we're hone in on what that investigative process looks
like. So as you said, we're talking
about 5 locations supposedly and 300 plus SIM server cards that
had 100,000 SIM cards, so 100,000 phone numbers.
That's assuming that they were all doing single and not
rotating. So that's a lot of phone
numbers. So we want to know, OK, that's
probably 100 grand on the conservative side a year just in
rent for the physical locations. At least.
Yeah, let's just assume that it's a one bedroom studio and
they were just, you know, they were doing the minimums there.
You're talking $2000. Let's just, you know, make it
real simple. But if it's.
Yeah. You think it's 3000.
So 100,000 a year, $200,000 a year.
That's the first. That's an initial investment in
just New York City. NY City is not where you're
going to get your biggest ROI when it comes to being able to
do this 'cause you could have these theoretically in the
United States and be able to operate across the entire United
States. So why would you have it in New
York specific, right, Unless this is something that they have
in multiple locations. So we want to know that.
And then you talk about, OK, so someone must have signed a
lease, right? Was it done with a corporation?
Was it done with a person? How was that that location
scouted? Was it done online?
Was it done in person? Was there a physical
representative there? Who set up these physical
networks? Who physically had access to the
buildings? What are the security cameras
show for people doing insurance and outs?
You know who set up the the the the billing for your Internet
connectivity? Who set up the billing for power
going to these places which are going to draw significant
amounts of power and, you know, air conditioning and so on.
So all these questions get really, really specific.
And then is this one, is this a one off?
And again, I'm still not convinced that Secret Service is
the right federal agency to have this Nexus and how that came in
and, and whether they just stumbled upon it on accident or
whether it was something longer. And they're not telling us a
lot. And it sounds like the the media
is like, oh, it could have shut down the com system.
It could send encrypted messages to everybody in the United
States. Also breaking today is some
other story that we're going to talk about.
Like that was it. That was all they cared about.
They just said this thing happened.
And of all the news stories that I've read probably in the last
couple of months, this is one of the wildest things that doesn't
seem all that crazy. Like, it's less crazy that we
had this story about the, the, the, the man who attempted to
assassinate Donald Trump stabbing himself in the neck.
By the way, for those who are not paying attention, yesterday,
he was found guilty. This is Ryan Ralph.
So he was tried in Florida and immediately upon the guilty
verdict, he apparently tried to stab himself in the neck and was
unsuccessful. He got dragged out.
I actually may even have a clip of that.
Here we go. This.
I'll just play this real quick. This is the news from yesterday,
which is nowhere near as shocking as 100,000 SIM cards
found in five different locations in New York.
It's quite shocking. As the verdict was read, it
appeared to our producers inside the courtroom that Ruth tried to
stab himself in the neck with a pen.
That's what it appeared to to look like.
Then 4 marshals dragged him out of the courtroom.
Took his coat off. They then shackled him at the
waist and ankles and then they brought him back into the
courtroom. So again, this just in from our
producers. As the verdict was being read,
Ruth tried to hurt himself in the neck with a pen.
So there you go. And, and that got breaking news
and that's very exciting. And then maybe they'll talk
about him a little bit. They've also kind of swept him
under the the rug. And there were all kinds of
bizarre things about that man's story.
The the press coverage was almost none.
That was almost a blackout when it came to what was going on.
Maybe because it was federal court, but all I saw were a
couple of sketches. Yeah, I mean, obviously he's not
Jason Bourne or he'd be dead by now.
So, but but back to the SIM card thing, you know, if if you're
going to run a criminal enterprise, why would you run it
somewhere adjacent to something like the United Nations?
Why would you, you know, why not it somewhere inside the Beltway
around, you know, around some of the federal buildings, whether
that be the Eisenhower Executive Office building or wherever.
You know, why you would want to put it somewhere this innocuous
out of the way, some place where you're not going to have Secret
Service sniffing around ahead of of a protective detail.
So no, I'm I'm not buying it at all.
This look, if, if we were investigating this, if, if, if
somehow the suspendables that were re resurrected and and had
access to tools, we would know by the end of the weekend.
Pretty good idea of of where where this threat emanated from
and into the degree that it poses to the country.
My guess is we're not going to learn very much more than what
we already know today, which tells me it was probably a
pretty big deal. And is your instinct that just
based on the ROI, the location and the other things that this
is more likely a nation state actor if you're going to do
some, you know, high level analysis on this, does that
sound more probable to you than the alternative just in the the
limited information we have? We know that New York City has
been a target since the time they've tried to 1st blow up the
World Trade Center by parking that van in the in the parking
garage. So I'm my best is going to be
nation state actor, maybe using a cut out, you know, and it
could be a terrorist, you know, organization here in the United
States, but with the support of a nation state actor.
If it's a criminal enterprise. Boy, talk about the gang that
couldn't shoot straight. Why didn't they put it in
Wichita, KS or some place where rents a fraction of what it
would be because you can call it all over the country anyway.
Why would you put it in New York City if New York City wasn't the
target? It's just a question.
I'm not saying that that it was the target.
I'm just saying using a a logic string to say like, if, if it's
a criminal enterprise, why would you put it in some place where
you're going to have a higher degree of scrutiny?
Put it some place where you're not going to have a higher
degree of. Scrutiny and I can't fathom that
100,000 phone numbers doing simultaneous operations is
enough to shut down anything in New York City because their grid
has to be big enough to support New York City, which has 12
million in the local area. So I don't know how 100,000
people simultaneously activating their phones.
There's probably 100,000 people on it on any given day and a
bump in 100,000. I can't fathom that that would
actually be a real denial of service attack, even though
that's what was claimed. It doesn't make a lot of sense
to me either. Crazy.
Let me, let me ask one last question specifically to your
expertise in signals intelligence.
And there was kind of the speculation that we had in our
little suspendables chat discussing inside or outside the
United States the value of putting a node like this, some
kind of a, a cell phone node inside the US versus outside
when it comes to collection parameters and who would or
would not focus on it. We saw that Secret Service is
going out and talking about it. We're not hearing anything out
of NSA specifically, not that we would.
But look, can you talk about the responsibilities for Signal in
intelligence that happens inside versus outside and where it
originates, if that has any bearing on this?
Sure, we are the victims of Nsas success and I don't mean victim
like in a negative sense, but the NSA has done such a an
excellent job of identifying threats electronically that
emanate from outside the United States that according to Akamai,
63% of all threats now emanate with inside the United States.
And we have groups like SISA who are supposed to be protecting us
from things like this. And you know, the auspices of
DHS and sounds like they missed the ball on this.
So like I said, the NSA were victim again, not so much in a
negative sense. It's not criticism in the NSA,
but they're a victim of their own success.
They've done such a good job of hoovering up everything outside
the country that now more than half, you know, approaching, you
know, starting to close in on 75% of the threats now originate
from with inside the United States.
So we're talking about threats. So obviously then we're not
talking necessarily about criminal organizations.
We're talking about foreign countries and foreign terrorist
organizations. So where is SISA on all this?
Is that who's who this would fall under?
In theory this would fall under an insist and then maybe FBI is
sort of the the follow. On action they would work with
FBI, there would be a cyber task force put together and and get
out after this. OK, so this is not NS as purview
to necessarily be scanning through all this kind of stuff?
No, but they would absolutely should be part of a task force
because they bring a lot of expertise.
So if you're going to start to, you know, if any of that those
activities were beaconing and sending data outside the
country, then NSA would absolutely get involved.
So if if I were putting together a task force, NSA absolutely
would have a seat at the table 100%.
That makes sense. And just so people understand,
then NSA focusing externally and so there's an external signal
either coming in or emanating outward data heading out, then
that's where you want to have the NSA interface, SISA, the
what is it, the Cybersecurity Infrastructure Security Agency.
Yeah, the one who told us we had the most secure election ever in
2020, that those guys. Those guys should be involved
and the and the internal end of it, the domestic comms part of
it and and setting up this part of it and then the FBI.
You're saying the way it should work.
I'm not saying it's going to work.
Totally agree. I just, yeah, I just wanted to
get your insight on that. I'm not going to let this one go
because I'm going to keep asking and I'm going to keep seeing if
we can find something. I'm going to put some news hit
alerts on this and hope we'll come back and talk about it soon
later. Any any final thoughts as far as
the the biggest as you're looking, sort of broadly
speaking, we talked about cover color revolutions at the
beginning. We've talked about this
marketing campaign that's going on.
We're talking about high level actors trying to delegitimize
current government in the US. This, you know, potentially
bizarre story with with comms going on Highline.
What do you what do you see in this country over the next
couple years? I always give you like a an
opportunity to say your most bleakest thoughts.
So go ahead and give me some of those.
If you don't mind, drop out some dispense red pills our.
Elected officials, in conjunction with those in the
legacy media, are creating a moral framework wherein that
will give license to people who ascribe to their ideology for
violence. And that's what really concerns
me, that they're giving license to the worst people to do the
worst things. And we're seeing more and more
evidence of that every day. And we just saw it this morning
in in Dallas, TX. So when you're giving Pete, when
you're othering one side, demonizing one side, and then
you're giving moral license that there is no real framework for
this, this wretched country that you live in.
So go ahead and do your worst. And so I think people should be
concerned about that. And hopefully we can get by with
some counter messaging at some point.
But you know, they control the school systems and we've been
training multiple generations that this country is fatally
flawed and we don't teach civics.
So it's going to be an uphill battle.
Yeah, luckily you're living in a place where that's one of the
worst, worst penetrations it seems like too.
And can't miss. They got you.
Isn't that a Marine Corps thing? They got us surrounded.
Yeah. They got.
Us right where we want. Them or something, or we got
them right where where they want us.
Yes, they can't get away this time.
We're surrounded George Hill. Thanks for joining me.
I really appreciate it. Follow guys.
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Is that true? All right, go get some leg day
done my friend all. Right, it's child.
All right. Thanks so much all right, so
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that was going to be kind of funny.
And this is not going to go the way that you thought it would go
this video. So as a palate cleanse going off
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yeah, that person gets me. This is a man.
I don't know how else to describe it nicely.
She is a very thick, built, I'm going to say stereotypical
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women. You know what?
There's a lot more of us that are rational than people might
think. If you look at this woman, you
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because there's more of us than them.
This is just kind of a nice. This made me feel good listening
to it. I was misgendered yesterday.
A little girl at the mall, she was maybe 5 years old, sitting
in a wagon, kept staring at me. So I made eye contact and she
said are you a girl or a boy? Her mom started to go Oh my God,
we we accept everyone that's so rude you can't say that.
And I laughed and I bent down on her level and I said that's OK,
it's confusing sometimes. I'm a girl.
I just really like boys clothes. They're pretty comfy.
She got all excited and she said I'm a girl too.
And I gave her a high 5. I said isn't it so great being a
girl? I love being a girl.
She said, yeah, that's my brother, he's a brother because
he's a boy. So I said you're right, brothers
are boys and sisters are girls. There's only boys and girls.
If you're born a girl, you're a girl.
I was born a girl. I can almost see the release of
error coming from her mother's body and just the the ultimate
sigh of relief that I wasn't going to be indoctrinating her
child or teaching her child something that maybe she didn't
want her to know. I continued to talk to the
little girl about her brother and her very cute dog who was
also a girl. I said I hope you have a great
day and I went about my business.
That is how you address gender to children.
You don't. That is how you empower little
girls and let them know that it's OK to be a girl who dresses
however you want without having to change your gender.
That is how you avoid confusing children, especially children
that aren't your own, and projecting your bullshit on them
because you might be offended that they use the wrong pronoun.
It's so sensible. It's so easy for all of you that
have Tom girls in your life, whether they're daughters or
whether they're granddaughters or whether they're your wives
and they just want to wear boys clothes sometimes or what we can
perceive to be boys clothes. That seems like a really
sensible take. That seems like the kind of
thing that I grew up with in the 80s where people still didn't
have their heads so far and firmly in their own navels.
We'll say that they could look around and say it doesn't really
matter, you know, who cares? How about that?
Keep your own BS to yourself. I really like that message.
I hope that resonates for you guys as well.
Leave me a comment if you guys are so inclined.
Anything you didn't disagree with?
If you see some other Intel gaps that we did not discuss, love to
hear that too because I'm not going to just walk away.
I do think this story has so many more legs to it and I've
got so many more questions and the less we hear about it, I
think the more telling it is as well.
So God bless all of you. Thank you for listening to the
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