1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:09,600 I'm Aaron and I'm Dana, and this is crimes we didn't commit. 2 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,040 Love this, love this for us. Love all of it. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:17,600 It's a great time. It's a great day. 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:19,000 It's a. Good time welcome. 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,720 My tummy hurts. Mine doesn't, but I am hungry 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,000 food. But I did think, I think we 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,480 should just go ahead and mention the Patreon like, Oh yeah, let's 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,400 just get that out there. Do it. 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,160 It is live. We are so excited. 10 00:00:34,160 --> 00:00:36,960 We have several members already, yes. 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:40,800 Do we call them members? We call them Patreonses. 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,440 Patreons. Patreonises. 13 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,400 Oh, I I texted you and I said patrons we have. 4 Patrons. 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:50,640 Patrons. It's like or a store or 15 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,280 something, but no, we are so freaking excited and we posted 16 00:00:55,280 --> 00:00:59,440 the episode that is coming out Monday, so we're posting them. 17 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,320 Is today today's Monday? Right now you're recording on a 18 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,760 Monday. This episode won't come out till 19 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,000 next. Till next time. 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:10,560 But so if you're waiting for the the new episode, if you are on 21 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,800 Patreon, you're going to be able to hear it on Fridays. 22 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:16,000 Yes. So that's what's exciting. 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:17,520 Start your weekend off right. Yep. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,280 And then you don't have to wait at all until Monday. 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,920 Yeah, and then we'll also be posting mini sods every week as 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:28,400 well, so and. And you never know, it might. 27 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,800 It might be a couple times a week. 28 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,360 We don't we don't know what we're doing. 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:32,160 We. Don't know. 30 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,600 We're still gathering the facts, thoughts, and. 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,920 And brain cells and college, all of it. 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,000 So, yeah, get on there. Get on there. 33 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,080 We're on there. We're we're there. 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,120 Yeah. And you should be there too. 35 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,240 And when you're here, you're family. 36 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,400 Olive Garden. We are not sponsored by Olive 37 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,360 Garden. No, it would be cool though. 38 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,600 It would be lots of breadsticks. Lots of breadsticks. 39 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,120 I love breadsticks. And I like their salad. 40 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,160 I love bread. I love. 41 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,680 Bread so much I. Think I think I need to start 42 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:06,960 making my own. Bread. 43 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,440 I've been thinking about that also. 44 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,840 I've made it in the past and it's turned out fine. 45 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:14,880 Why did you stop? I don't know, OK, I don't think 46 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,120 that we don't or I guess I'm the only one that really consumes 47 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:20,480 bread at A at a level that's unhealthy. 48 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:21,640 So. No, you're not. 49 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:27,360 So in my household of two, yes. So that I would just be eating 50 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,560 loaves of bread every week, which is fine. 51 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,080 Yeah, I don't care if people don't eat bread in my house. 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:34,040 I will. Yeah, I will eat the bread. 53 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:37,120 It's so good if you put a little olive oil and like salt and 54 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,920 pepper, like some spices. Just dip that shit in there. 55 00:02:40,640 --> 00:02:43,000 What a good time. That's the best part of 56 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,640 restaurants. Like, that's why we'll go to a 57 00:02:45,640 --> 00:02:48,480 nicer restaurant is in order to get that fucking bread. 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,160 Yep, yeah, it's my favorite. It's the best part. 59 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Keep it coming out. Have you had the? 60 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,040 I have, but I haven't been to Texas Roadhouse in probably like 61 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:58,520 10. Years. 62 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,720 I mean, yeah, it's not like I go there often, but I just remember 63 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,760 those. Are we going to Texas Roadhouse? 64 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Those rolls Rolls I. Love rolls. 65 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:07,360 No, we were on a cruise once and. 66 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:11,000 They had Texas Roadhouse. It was no, they had these rolls 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,080 and or they called them dinner. Yeah, dinner rolls, dinner 68 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,080 rolls. And they had like, cranberries 69 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,960 in them. And I don't know, it was weird, 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:20,760 OK. OK. 71 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,400 Weird. Stay with me, OK? 72 00:03:22,640 --> 00:03:25,840 They were unbelievable. I'm here and I ate 8 of them. 73 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:28,400 I'm not kidding. The first day the. 74 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:32,200 First day I did, I did and it was, I mean it was great. 75 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,600 The food is for me. I love cruise food. 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,320 I haven't been on a cruise before. 77 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,040 So you'll love it. We should do a cruise with our 78 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:41,760 fans. Oh, that could be fun. 79 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,200 We could do. A crime so we didn't commit. 80 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,720 Yeah, there are so many crimes that have been committed on 81 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:47,280 cruises. That would be fun. 82 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:49,280 What if we were on a cruise? And a. 83 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,920 Crime was. We would investigate. 84 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,520 We could turn on our microphones. 85 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:56,800 That will obviously happen. With us, we would be. 86 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,400 Yeah, we would be. Put on our headsets, Take our 87 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,920 recorder. We would be live updating. 88 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,840 Yeah, about a a cruise crime. That would be so cool. 89 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:15,080 A cruise crime we didn't. That's right, CCWDC with me 90 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:18,320 letters and you. At C. 91 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:23,800 At C it'd be a great time, but then we could also record an 92 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:27,680 episode of a cruise crime that wasn't being committed then. 93 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,040 True, we could do several cruise crimes. 94 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,120 Crimes of cruises. New and old. 95 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,960 And present and past. And the captain? 96 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,480 Is sailing. Sailing. 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:43,840 Starboard, steer clear of icebergs. 98 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:48,320 Yeah, Bow. What are the other sides? 99 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,040 There's like Stern, Stern. Stern and bow. 100 00:04:51,240 --> 00:04:55,080 And then there's starboard Starboard and then starboard 101 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:58,240 starboard. Oh God, not this again. 102 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:02,240 Starboard and. I feel like it's starboard. 103 00:05:02,840 --> 00:05:04,440 It might be. I have no idea. 104 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:09,280 I don't know if we if only we had a way to access information 105 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:15,360 quickly one day. So I'm not gonna. 106 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:19,640 I'm gonna guess. Is there a hull, a hole, a hull 107 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 or something like that? Is that an airplane? 108 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,160 So the the bow is the front of the boat, right? 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:34,360 Sure it is. Whatever you want it to be, I am 110 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:35,920 here for it. I support you. 111 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,320 Well, I think I remember once, and I'm so stupid about this I 112 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,920 think, but I think I remember I wanted to say the bow was the 113 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:49,200 back because of the B. And it was the opposite. 114 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:53,680 And I think it's the bow is the front and the stern is the back. 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:57,840 I believe it. And the starboard side is the 116 00:05:57,840 --> 00:06:01,560 side where they dock. Which is. 117 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,440 Starboard side. Do they dock on a particular 118 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,840 side every time? Does every ship dock on one 119 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:13,720 side? I don't know ship captains. 120 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,160 I have no idea for you. How many cruises have I been on? 121 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:17,880 I don't know. I don't know. 122 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Two. I've been on none. 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:20,720 Three. I've been on three. 124 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,720 I've been on some boats though. Bermuda Bahama. 125 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,920 Bermuda Triangle? Is that the where everyone gets 126 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:26,840 lost? Yes. 127 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:29,720 OK, but I don't think people have gotten lost very much. 128 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,280 I don't know if they go into You did, I did. 129 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Are you sure? Bermuda. 130 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,160 I went to Bermuda. But where is the triangle? 131 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Around it, I'm pretty sure it's touching it. 132 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,880 I think it's a point. In it it's. 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:50,680 A. It's a point of the triangle at 134 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,160 some point and. So is lighting things on fire. 135 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,040 Yes. And bed wetting. 136 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:56,880 And animal cruelty. That's it. 137 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,160 Triangle, triangle. The only three sides. 138 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,840 Turns out we. Knew there was a triangle. 139 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,280 They told us. I think we should get into the 140 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:07,320 case before they start fast. Forward, Yeah. 141 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,120 Oh, yeah. If you. 142 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,440 Yeah, if if you don't like this part, go forward. 143 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,680 Yeah, they're going to just skip ahead. 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,280 Well, this case that I have is a little bit older, the 145 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:24,400 perpetrator. I love that word. 146 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,840 Was born in 1905, so I'm just going to start from the top. 147 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,880 So, Nancy, Hazel, that's a. 101 years ago. 148 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,840 Sorry. 101 Dalmatian which is a sick movie that was a fucked. 149 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,640 Up movie. It really is. 150 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:40,600 It was poor Douglas. God. 151 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,800 OK, so Nancy Hazel was later known to the world as Nanny 152 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,520 Doss. She spent most of her life 153 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,920 searching for romance, as most people do. 154 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:51,520 She was just a. A romanticist? 155 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:54,360 What is it? A hopeless romantic. 156 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Romantic. That's it. 157 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Sleepless. And yeah, she did dream 158 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:01,400 endlessly of handsome men. OK, Passionate love and the kind 159 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,560 of devotion she saw in the books that she would read. 160 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,440 She'd read a bunch of like romance books and like cheap 161 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,240 romance magazines and shit like that. 162 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:13,920 This could be good or or none. We're not. 163 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:18,240 Considering it's on this podcast, I'm going to vote for 164 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,840 the latter. OK. 165 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,920 So but beneath like this image of a soft spoken like southern 166 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,160 grandma. She's one of the most disturbing 167 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,120 serial killers in American history. 168 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,120 OK, All right, Nanny, let's hit it. 169 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,640 Over the span of more than two decades, Nanny poisoned 170 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:40,000 husbands, children, relatives and anyone else who seemed to 171 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:41,840 inconvenience her. Well. 172 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,840 In her mission for love. Jeez Louise. 173 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:47,400 When authorities finally arrested her, she laughed 174 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,640 through the interrogation and casually flipped through romance 175 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,400 magazines while confessing to murder. 176 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,680 The press eventually. What's a romance magazine? 177 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,720 I don't know, but I'm assuming like back in during that time, 178 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,400 there was a lot of war. Sure. 179 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,880 I don't know which one, but I'm sure there was one. 180 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:11,400 Well, there was, yes. War. 181 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:17,360 I can't say it. World What World War? 182 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:20,240 World World War. You have a hard time saying 183 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:21,520 world. Both of them. 184 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:32,680 You could say Earth Earth War just coming up with solutions. 185 00:09:32,680 --> 00:09:36,000 Here planet war 1-2 and three right? 186 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:39,360 Is there 3? Not yet, but you know, you can 187 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:43,640 tell. But during that time, there's a 188 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:50,440 lot of heavy, I guess, like societal influence on like the 189 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:54,160 perfect woman and all this stuff and all this that was going on. 190 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:57,200 So that eventually got into, I guess there were magazines 191 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,360 around that. That makes sense. 192 00:09:59,680 --> 00:10:02,080 Maybe I don't know the names of any of them. 193 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:06,720 Well, I'm sure there's like some vintage magazine out there that 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:08,960 maybe we can find. Maybe it's like. 195 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:12,080 Cosmo. But for romance? 196 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Well, I mean, it's still romantic, I guess. 197 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:16,120 Is it? I don't know. 198 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:21,440 OK, OK, so the press eventually, because she would laugh through 199 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,560 her interrogation, they eventually nicknamed her the 200 00:10:23,560 --> 00:10:27,160 Giggling Granny and the Jolly Widow. 201 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:30,000 Oh yeah. She would fit right in on this. 202 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,960 Podcast. Yeah, she would. 203 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:31,560 I don't. Agree. 204 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,400 Bring it on, Nanny. So that also kind of made her 205 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:41,000 crime scene more horrifying. Nanny Dos was eventually linked 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,560 to the deaths of four husbands across multiple states, though 207 00:10:44,560 --> 00:10:47,040 investigators and historians believe the true number of the 208 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,360 victims were much higher. I feel like that's the case with 209 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,240 most serial killers in general. Yep. 210 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,200 In addition to her husband, she was suspected of murdering her 211 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,640 mother, a sister, two daughters, a grandson, a mother-in-law, and 212 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,240 several others. So she was on a roll. 213 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,400 We're going to go through all of them, but she was on a fucking 214 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,960 roll for a while. Yeah, she killed a lot. 215 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,200 She did, and it must. It's so easy to kill back then. 216 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,040 With poison too. Yeah. 217 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:13,320 Yeah. Would have been, I was going to 218 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:14,480 say it would have been a great time. 219 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,120 I mean, if for her it Oh yeah, kept getting away with it. 220 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:22,760 Exactly. I met a lady this past weekend. 221 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,800 She gave off poison. Poison or vice, really. 222 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Yeah, that's crazy. It was really weird. 223 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:33,320 I met her for the first time and she said her name to me and just 224 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,800 the look in her eyes was weird. And I just met her and we'd, 225 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,480 like, left because we were going to go out for dinner or 226 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,560 something. And she said by Dan and Adrian, 227 00:11:43,560 --> 00:11:45,880 like she remembered after a prolonged conversation. 228 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,600 Our names, which is fucking weird to me. 229 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:50,120 Very attentive, yes, but that was weird. 230 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:52,160 Yeah, who does that? Who remembers names? 231 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,400 She like, turned around and watched us walk away. 232 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,320 Weird. It was very odd. 233 00:11:56,320 --> 00:12:01,600 So remember when we went to the thing last week and someone 234 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,080 asked her like, hey, have you ever met anybody that 235 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,120 immediately gave you serial killer vibes? 236 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,640 I met one. And you experienced that. 237 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,160 I did, I feel like she probably did some shady shit. 238 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,920 That's weird. Wish her the best. 239 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,200 I don't have her last name but I I will find it. 240 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:21,280 We're going to find it. We'll definitely find, yeah. 241 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,720 We have people out there, so most often she used arsenic, 242 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:30,680 arsenic, hidden food or coffee, especially prunes, which is one 243 00:12:30,680 --> 00:12:33,320 of her favorite foods. Well, she was shitting. 244 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,120 She'd be shitting. Whoa. 245 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,800 There was a family researcher. Her name was Shirby Green, a 246 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:45,320 distant relative of nannies. She said that many members of 247 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:48,520 the family refused to discuss her at all, and she described 248 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,440 Nanny as the skeleton in our closet, someone whose actions 249 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,360 permanently stained the family bloodline. 250 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,800 But she admitted that Nanny had become most legendary in parts 251 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,040 of Alabama just because of the sheer darkness and strangeness 252 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:03,920 of her crimes. She also rejected the idea that 253 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,480 Nanny's upbringing or circumstances excuse her 254 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,840 behavior, which, yeah, rightfully so. 255 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:10,880 Yeah. In her opinion, Nanny killed 256 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,280 because she enjoyed it and because at some point, murder 257 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,280 simply became easy. So now Nanny. 258 00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:19,520 She was born in 1905 in Blue Mountain, Alabama. 259 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,560 Oh, I love Alabama. I haven't been to Alabama. 260 00:13:22,560 --> 00:13:24,160 I. Don't think is beautiful? 261 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:24,960 Is it? Yeah. 262 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,360 Have you been to Blue Mountain? No, but I would go, OK, I would 263 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:30,920 go there. I guess we're going to go there 264 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,400 on a cruise. The Blue Ridge I have too. 265 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:34,960 I like that. That's very nice. 266 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,760 I like mountains. They're cool to see. 267 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:39,680 They're cool to see and look. At It's just like pimples of the 268 00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:41,160 Earth. I don't want to climb one. 269 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,240 I did it once, saw it, been there. 270 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:46,320 It's not that bad if you go slow, Yeah. 271 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,760 If you're just chilling and you're not with someone who's 272 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:51,160 trying to rush you through this fucking process, then it's a 273 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,480 good time, Yeah. Otherwise, I don't want to be 274 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,120 there. Nope. 275 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,360 So she was born to a poor farming family. 276 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,400 Her parents or her childhood was harsh, exhausting and joyless, 277 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:03,880 which sucks. That sounds. 278 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,160 That sounds terrible. I mean joyless. 279 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,680 Joyless. What a description. 280 00:14:08,680 --> 00:14:12,000 That's why she turned into the joyful widow or whatever. 281 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,480 It was, she found, joy. She did. 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Her father, James Hazel, was known as a controlling and angry 283 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,560 man who ruled the household through intimidation and 284 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,480 violence. The children work constantly in 285 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,840 the fields, often missing school entirely if their father decided 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:28,320 they were needed on the farm that day. 287 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:32,120 According to accounts from the family, James had little 288 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,320 patience and frequently used physical punishment on both his 289 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,520 wife and his daughters. Nanny's mother, Lou, was 290 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:41,320 described as caring and gentle, but deeply afraid of her 291 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:43,840 husband. So, I mean, that's not a great 292 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,920 environment. No, it it definitely sounds 293 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:48,120 joyless. It does, and I'm sure that she 294 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:53,120 wished her dad was dead. Yeah, he sounds like a bastard. 295 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,040 He sounds Yeah, he sucks. Yeah. 296 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,480 By the age of five, Nanny was already doing hard labor. 297 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,680 She cut wood, pulled weeds, worked in the field, cleaned the 298 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,280 house and handled endless chores. 299 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,880 Fun was practically non existent in the household. 300 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,480 The girls were forbidden from attending dances, church socials 301 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,480 or community gatherings, and makeup and fashionable clothes 302 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:20,400 were considered sinful, and James insisted that no daughter 303 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,960 of his would tempt men or embarrass the family. 304 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:27,120 Oh jeez. Years later, Nanny would blame 305 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,400 many of her mental and emotional problems on a traumatic train 306 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,800 accident from her childhood while traveling with her family. 307 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,200 The train made a sudden stop, throwing her forward into an 308 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:39,400 iron seat frame. Oh God. 309 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,520 She later claimed she suffered from headaches, blackouts, and 310 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,760 pain for the rest of her life because of the injury. 311 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:51,120 Some speculate that the accident may have caused brain damage 312 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:53,000 that contributed to her violent tendency. 313 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,440 But the sherby green girl she strongly disagreed. 314 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:00,120 She believed that Nanny simply possessed A cruel streak that 315 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,040 already existed within her personality. 316 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,360 Yeah, I think that from, I don't know. 317 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:13,240 I don't either because brain injury does play a factor. 318 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Yes, it's in the formula. It's in the formula. 319 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,240 And her upbringing, yes, was crazy. 320 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,240 It sounds super stressful. It sounds so controlling. 321 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,640 It sounds like she had nothing of her own. 322 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,840 She wasn't able to think for herself, do anything she wanted. 323 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:33,360 Yeah. So yeah, it sounds very much 324 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,320 later on in life. It makes it sound like she's 325 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,360 trying to control. Things, things. 326 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,120 And also, she hates men. Yep. 327 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Despite the misery of her home life, Nanny developed an 328 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:51,320 obsession with romance. She she needed love. 329 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,360 She needed to escape. Desperate. 330 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:55,240 She wanted to feel love. Yeah. 331 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:57,920 And her fantasy? Right. 332 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,440 And I feel like reading like fantasy books or like fantasy 333 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,240 romance novels and stuff, you escape. 334 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,920 Yeah, like that's definitely, I feel like a drug of some kind. 335 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,280 That obsessing about it in your head. 336 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:11,920 And now you want it. Yep, even like that's the case 337 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,240 with even like murder and rape and stuff like that. 338 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,480 As soon as they start to obsess, they're going to try and act on. 339 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:18,200 If they don't get it, Yep, they're going to kill. 340 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,760 They're going to kill. She spent hours reading 341 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,800 magazines and lonely heart advertisements, which, honestly 342 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,280 kind of sounds like fun. Sounds like Tinder. 343 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,520 Yeah, but in a paper form. Yeah. 344 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,200 It's kind of cool imagining herself being rescued by the 345 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,640 perfect man. So romance did become her escape 346 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:40,840 from reality. And as she entered her teenage 347 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:43,440 years, her father continued to keep her isolated from her 348 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,960 social life. But Nanny would occasionally 349 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:48,200 sneak away to meet boys in secret. 350 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:49,720 OK, so good for. Her. 351 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,360 I mean it sounds. It does it sounds very much 352 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:56,280 normal and I think it's funny how like then and now it's 353 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,720 exactly the same like the exact same. 354 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,360 Nothing changes in like human no like this, the way humans 355 00:18:02,360 --> 00:18:05,400 develop in that kind of way. Yep, that's really interesting. 356 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,520 So she quickly learned how to charm men with her bright laugh, 357 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:11,920 dark eyes and flirtatious personality. 358 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:15,280 So. Her seductive spirit, as her dad 359 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,280 would say. That's right. 360 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:22,040 In 1921, at 16 years old, Nanny met Charlie Braggs while working 361 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,080 at the Linen Thread Company. Always was intrigued how, like, 362 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:26,600 everyone worked at these factories. 363 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,520 I know and stuff. And what that would have been 364 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:30,000 like. Yeah, like, you're just working 365 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:31,680 on the line. You're like, there's my husband. 366 00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:35,640 It always scares me thinking about a factory job. 367 00:18:36,120 --> 00:18:37,160 Like you're going to lose your hand. 368 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,920 Well, there's one. I can't remember exactly what it 369 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:46,080 was but I remember this woman that worked in a factory and her 370 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:50,760 hair got stuck in the machine and it ripped her scalp. 371 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:52,560 Off. Oh, at least it didn't bust her 372 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,080 head. No, it didn't bust her head. 373 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,960 I mean, honestly, I'd rather die than getting my scalp ripped. 374 00:18:57,960 --> 00:18:59,600 Off and being alive. Yeah. 375 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,920 There are some injuries that happen to people and I'm just 376 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,720 like, I just would have, I'd want to be done. 377 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,520 I mean, things blow up in there. It's so. 378 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,040 It's incredibly dangerous. I wonder if they offer good 379 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,240 benefits. Not then. 380 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,880 I'll tell you that I don't even know about now. 381 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,320 So Charlie seemed very respectable, hard working and 382 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:25,560 devoted to his family, which impressed her dad and his dad 383 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:26,920 James. OK, well, that's. 384 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,480 Good, that is good. Within only a few months, Nanny 385 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,480 married him, but the marriage quickly became miserable. 386 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,960 Charlie's overbearing mother insisted herself into every 387 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,440 aspect of their lives and dominated the entire. 388 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:41,600 House. Now that's annoying. 389 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,120 That's annoying as fuck. That's get out of my face. 390 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,200 Why didn't she notice that prior to? 391 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:49,880 They didn't have enough time. Well, yeah, I guess it was like 392 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,120 4 days when you're so. In love, you ignore all the 393 00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:55,640 negative. Any kind of red flag, any kind 394 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 of negativity, we're like we're going to get through this, don't 395 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,080 rush. But not a invasive. 396 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:02,200 Take your time. Overbearing. 397 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,360 Take your time. There's no reason to rush it. 398 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:09,960 No, so all of that was happening. 399 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,560 The overbearing mother insert inserting her life into their 400 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:14,560 lives. So Nanny later wrote bitterly 401 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:17,960 that she had simply traded 1 controlling parent for another. 402 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,760 Which fucking blows. That's not the life that she 403 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:21,880 wanted. No, she wanted to. 404 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:26,440 She wanted to be free, yes. And that's probably pissed her 405 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,720 off. Oh yeah, I would be livid. 406 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:29,360 I would be. Too. 407 00:20:29,360 --> 00:20:31,240 I would want her dead. I'm like, you're fucking up my 408 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:32,080 fairy tales. Yeah. 409 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:37,800 Between 1923 and 1927, Nanny gave birth to four daughters. 410 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,720 To him, yes. OK. 411 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:46,280 At the same, yeah. Just making sure I mean. 412 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,240 At the same time, both she and Charlie began drinking heavily 413 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,760 and cheating on each other. Oh, that's a recipe for 414 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:55,520 disaster. Absolutely already like the 415 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 external with the mother being a shit show. 416 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,560 Yep. And then now everyone's drinking 417 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,040 and being miserable. And now there's also infidelity 418 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,120 involved. And there's also 4 fucking kids. 419 00:21:04,120 --> 00:21:07,800 Yeah, well, and when you put alcohol into someone that has so 420 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,400 many of the traits of a killer, that is true it immediately. 421 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,440 There was that one person that was like, I'm exhibiting all the 422 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,600 traits, what should I do? And don't drink, she said. 423 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,160 Don't drink. Don't ever. 424 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:20,640 That's going to fuck it up. Yep, it's going to set it all 425 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:21,000 off. Yep. 426 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Anyway, that's a sneak peek into the Patreon. 427 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,480 It is, but that's. All that's all we're going. 428 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,200 To do here, that's all you get. Sorry, I won't do it again. 429 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,880 So the marriage became toxic and unstable. 430 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Nanny spent time in bars seeking attention from other men while 431 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,560 Charlie disappeared for days at a time during drinking binges. 432 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,000 Their relationship, huh? You said during drinking, 433 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,960 bitches. There are probably some drinking 434 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,040 bitches in there. Bitches in the nose, OK, The 435 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,240 relationship steadily collapsed under the weight of resentment 436 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,600 and infidelity. I mean, that makes sense. 437 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:57,000 Those poor kids. I know they're going through all 438 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:58,840 of it, yeah. So sad. 439 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,480 And you said four boys, girls. Girls. 440 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:07,960 The tragedy struck in then tragedy struck in 1927 when two 441 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,280 of the children died suddenly within months of each other. 442 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,200 Oh God. Yeah, so they can't catch a 443 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:16,120 break. No. 444 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,160 At all doctors blame food poisoning, but Charlie was 445 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:25,040 convinced Nanny was responsible. According to later reports, he 446 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,280 became terrified of eating food she prepared whenever she seemed 447 00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:30,320 angry or upset. Oh God. 448 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,960 Yeah. That is so scary. 449 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,440 That is really scary to think that they might be doing some 450 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,960 shit. Yeah, I mean, talk about being 451 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,400 paranoid. Oh, yeah. 452 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,240 Eventually, Charlie fled with their oldest daughter, leaving 453 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,000 Nanny behind with the youngest child. 454 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:48,800 I hate hearing that. Why would he do that? 455 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:50,480 I don't know. I hate him. 456 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,480 I don't understand when people are like, OK, I'll take one, or 457 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,520 I won't take any of the kids and just bail. 458 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:56,880 Yeah. How selfish. 459 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:01,680 Historians and investigators later suspected Nanny 460 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,280 intentionally poisoned the children because she viewed them 461 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,560 as burdens she no longer wanted to care for. 462 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Yeah, I can't. No. 463 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,280 After the collapse of her first marriage, Nanny returned to work 464 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:18,600 in a cotton mill and eventually married Frank Harrelson in 1929. 465 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,800 She's on to the next. Yeah, she didn't kill the other 466 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,160 guy though. She just killed the kids. 467 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,840 I mean, it wasn't just killing. She just got a couple kids. 468 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:32,000 At first, Frank appeared charming and exciting, but he 469 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,280 soon revealed himself to be violent, alcoholic and abusive. 470 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,320 Feel like that's a common thing back in the day, like there 471 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,080 wasn't much to live for. Well. 472 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,760 I was thinking it's common to like we said, the first couple 473 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,080 months of being with somebody, they're this, they're that. 474 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,120 And then and then they settle in a little bit and they're crazy 475 00:23:53,120 --> 00:23:56,120 starts to come out. That's what happened with me. 476 00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,560 I. I started to get crazy and. 477 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:03,800 Then I'm that one and. Then you're stuck. 478 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:11,600 You're with me forever. I never so police frequently 479 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,200 arrested him for drunken fighting, and the household 480 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080 became filled with arguments, threats and just instability in 481 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880 general. Nanny endured that marriage for 482 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:22,680 16 years. Whoa. 483 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,560 That's a lot of years. That's a long time. 484 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,680 She was putting up with shit for a long time. 485 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,360 She was giving shit too. I'm damn sure that she was. 486 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,360 Yeah. She was also an alcoholic. 487 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:36,440 Yeah, She suffered beatings and emotional abuse. 488 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:37,560 So. I'm glad she I'm. 489 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,640 Glad she got beat. She killed 2 two of her kids. 490 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,720 Yeah, I mean that's. Beat that bitch, but I don't 491 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,360 condone. Domestic violence. 492 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:50,720 Domestic violence or a man beating up a woman but fuck her. 493 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,520 During this period, Nanny's surviving daughters grew up and 494 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:59,000 started families of their own. In 1945, her daughter Melvina 495 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,880 gave birth to a baby girl while Nanny stayed with her at the 496 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,840 hospital. Shortly after the birth, the 497 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,960 baby mysteriously died. Oh no. 498 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:08,980 Nope. Mm. 499 00:25:08,980 --> 00:25:12,440 Hmm. Melvina later recalled what may 500 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,880 have been a horrifying vision. She thought she saw her mother 501 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,120 sticking a hat pin into the baby's head. 502 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:20,520 Nope, Nope. I don't like that I don't like 503 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,440 that I. Have a family story about that, 504 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,240 but I don't want to talk about her right now. 505 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,920 Oh no, that's OK, no one died. Everyone's safe. 506 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,080 Though she wasn't sure if the memory was real or imagined, the 507 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:37,240 incident haunted her for the rest of her life. 508 00:25:38,120 --> 00:25:40,800 Because you don't just imagine something like that. 509 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,360 That's not something that you think about and just kind of 510 00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:48,280 envision randomly. Well, and I wonder if she ever 511 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:52,600 questioned what happened to her other two sisters. 512 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:57,640 I mean we don't know how old she was at the time those 2 girls 513 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:58,640 died. Right. 514 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,640 And the doctor said food poisoning, right. 515 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,200 So then that's just probably they were like, oh, doctor said 516 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:04,800 this. So Doctor is right. 517 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,960 Maybe after the her baby died and that. 518 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,280 That's when she probably started the question. 519 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,480 Only months later, Melvina's young son. 520 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,520 Melvina's young son Robert, also died unexpectedly while in 521 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,680 Nanny's care. Doctors could not explain the 522 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,880 death and Nanny performed the role of grieving grandmother 523 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,200 perfectly. Wow, is she? 524 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,520 I wonder if she's still alive. Not Nanny obviously, but. 525 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,800 Like Melvina? I don't know. 526 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:33,840 We can find that out, though. I don't. 527 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,760 Want to search her out? You can and talk to her about 528 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:37,800 all her trauma. Yeah, kidding. 529 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Tell us about your dead baby. And your mommy nanny. 530 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,840 And your dead son? Yeah. 531 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,080 Later, it was discovered that Nanny had taken out a life 532 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,960 insurance policy on the boy and collected the money after his 533 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,120 death. Suspicion. 534 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,680 It's always about the insurance. Also, it was so easy to get life 535 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,400 insurance policies on people. And I'm sure it was like $0.05 a 536 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,840 month, yeah. Feel like it was like a one time 537 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,760 feat because there was this one story of you're able to it was 538 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,120 when like planes were starting to come around and there was 539 00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:13,640 like a life insurance vending machine. 540 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,520 Yep, and they would just they. 'D just put 1/4 in. 541 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,800 Be like have insurance for the rest of your. 542 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,920 Life. So if you die, yeah, they're 543 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,760 gonna get $100,000. 100 try like $10. 544 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,880 Which is the same. It's the same thing in today, 545 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:34,760 dollars in today. By 1945, Nanny had reached her 546 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,720 breaking point with Frank. And I mean, she was bound to. 547 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:43,440 Yeah, after. 16 years. One night after he came home 548 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920 drunk and threatened her, she decided to act. 549 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,560 The next day she discovered his hidden moonshine jug in the 550 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,880 garden and secretly poured rat poison into it. 551 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,160 Frank died in agony shortly afterwards. 552 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,120 So. He went back to have a little 553 00:28:00,120 --> 00:28:04,400 drink. He also buried it in the garden. 554 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,280 Oh no, it's just, it's, it's in the garden. 555 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240 I wonder why he hit it. He's an alcoholic. 556 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,600 He's an alcoholic. Yeah, I. 557 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,120 Need to have my my garden moonshine. 558 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:16,960 I need to have my shower moonshine. 559 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,200 Yeah, I need to have my. Car Moonshine. 560 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,600 My bed moonshine. My toothpaste. 561 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,680 Moonshine, so he died in agony. Nanny later calmly washed out 562 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,360 the liquor jars if nothing happened. 563 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480 After Frank's death, Nanny travelled around the country 564 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,560 before eventually settling in Lexington, NC. 565 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,680 Oh. There she met her third husband, 566 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,080 Arlyle Arly. Arly Arly. 567 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,880 I'm going to say Arlyle. I like. 568 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:56,080 Arlyle Lanning though he it was through another like lonely 569 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:57,520 hearts advertisement. She met him. 570 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,560 OK, so now she's taken to the papers. 571 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,000 Arlal was another alcoholic who chased women and disappeared for 572 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:09,120 days at a time, and rather than confronting him directly, Nanny 573 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,200 became disappearing herself, leaving cryptic notes behind 574 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:13,560 before eventually returning home. 575 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Oh snap. It's like when you would in back 576 00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,080 in the day, you'd leave like these cryptic Facebook. 577 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,560 Yes. Like statuses. 578 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,800 Like like. Of like a song lyric or 579 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,000 something like that that expressed your emotion. 580 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,200 I used to do that, so cringe. She was a boy, she was a girl. 581 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,680 Anymore audience or something like that? 582 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,000 Yep. I used to do Lil Wayne quotes. 583 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,840 Oh nice. I would do like Evanescence. 584 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:40,800 We are not this hit. No. 585 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,400 I'd be like we live in small circles but we got different 586 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,840 views. I'm like these wounds won't seem 587 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:56,760 to heal. Very out of control. 588 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,280 Actually, that was a Drake song I think that I did. 589 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,360 And anyways. Whatever, it doesn't matter. 590 00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:03,880 It's fine. We don't know colleges. 591 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,240 To neighbors and church members, Nanny appeared to be the perfect 592 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,600 wife. OK, she's good at that. 593 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,320 She can blend in. She can. 594 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,520 Marry. Literally anybody. 595 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,920 Yeah, I didn't look up a picture of her back in the day, but she 596 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,840 must have been a 10A bad bitch. I'll check why you read the. 597 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,920 Next part I don't. I mean, yeah. 598 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,840 So she would bake pies. She maintained A spotless home. 599 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,440 She tended to her garden, attended church faithfully and 600 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,440 entertained visitors, like, frequently. 601 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,320 No one ever suspected the darkness behind like all of that 602 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,480 cheerful merriment. She's not attractive. 603 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,120 Bad bench, I mean, but that was also like way later on. 604 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,560 I mean, that's her mug shot. Oh yeah. 605 00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:56,680 My I mean. Anyway. 606 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,160 That was after she murdered for decades. 607 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,040 All right, let me find a younger one. 608 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,000 That'll that'll weigh on anyone in February of 1950. 609 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200 Our I feel like it's our lie, but we're going to we're going 610 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,160 to keep it strong our. Lie. 611 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:18,040 Suddenly became violently I'll and died after suffering severe 612 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:24,720 vomiting and pain poison. OK, so every photo she looks 613 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,000 like that. Oh really? 614 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760 Yeah. I wonder when did photography 615 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,920 start? Yeah, I I think they used to 616 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:37,480 draw people back when she was. With their mind. 617 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,920 It's where you had to sit there for like 30 minutes to get a 618 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:45,120 photo taken. For like 5 days, hold it. 619 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,360 Right there. Hold it. 620 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:56,240 Oh God. So he died after suffering 621 00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:01,200 severe vomiting and pain. Doctors blamed heart failure or 622 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,400 flu like illness and never ordered an autopsy. 623 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,240 Of him. Correct. 624 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,280 Well, I mean heart, she made it look good. 625 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,680 She did. I mean, no one tracks. 626 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,280 Yeah, she did. I don't think anyone was, 627 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,560 really. No one assumed she would be 628 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:21,200 poisoning somebody and I don't think that her track record of 629 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:26,440 the children, the husband and like all of that was being 630 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,000 documented. Probably no. 631 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,640 Well, she's and she also moved. To different areas. 632 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,000 So no one knows anything. She just looks like a jolly, A 633 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,560 jolly old lady she. Looks jolly all right. 634 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,360 Person Nanny tearfully told neighbors that he had become 635 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,920 sick after eating prunes and drinking coffee she prepared for 636 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,400 him. Oh wow. 637 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,440 Only weeks later, the house Nanny and Arlal shared 638 00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,880 mysteriously burned to the ground. 639 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:59,280 OK, so that she just has a lot of bad luck. 640 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,360 Yeah, a shit ton she. Can't keep a husband because 641 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,840 they die or leave and then. Her kids keep. 642 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,080 Dying. Her kids die. 643 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,600 Her grandchildren are dying. She lost her house to a fire. 644 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,640 Like she can't catch a break. Jeez. 645 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,520 She's just so sad. Aren't. 646 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,480 Nanny. Conveniently, though, Nanny had 647 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:22,640 removed her beloved television from the home shortly before the 648 00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,880 fire. OK, she is me, I am her. 649 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,160 I get it, Nanny, I get it. She was claiming that she was 650 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:35,480 taking it to be repaired OK soon afterwards are Lyle's elderly? 651 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:40,000 Get the TV. I'm just the neighbors just like 652 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:42,920 what are you doing those? TV's were big. 653 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,120 They were like 2 big old brick box. 654 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,000 She's like. Take out the TV, just taking it 655 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,280 down the driveway, nothing to see. 656 00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,200 Here whole house is engulfed in flames. 657 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,200 Nothing the matter here. That's so funny. 658 00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,320 So soon after that, Arlal's elderly mother died unexpectedly 659 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:04,600 while Nanny was staying with her. 660 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,400 Yeah, then Nanny's sister Dovey, who had cancer and was being 661 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,360 cared for by Nanny, also died suddenly. 662 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:20,080 OK, well, that one. Yeah, by now, killing had become 663 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,320 very routine for her sounds. Like it? 664 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,120 Yeah. She just like kill, burn the 665 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:33,000 house, get TV, kill, kill. Shirby Green later described her 666 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080 as a highly intelligent and very highly, very. 667 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,679 Choose Manipulative. She was highly intelligent and 668 00:34:38,679 --> 00:34:40,560 manipulative. Yeah, capable of fooling 669 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,360 neighbors, doctors and the entire community for decades. 670 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,880 In 1952, Nanny joined the Diamond Circle Club. 671 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,760 It's a lonely hearts organization designed to help 672 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,719 people find spouses. Desperado. 673 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,719 Yes, she was a pygmy. Girl. 674 00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,120 Yes, she was, but she was a pygmy in order. 675 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,440 I mean, she's probably still looking for that love, that true 676 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:03,280 love. True. 677 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,080 Yeah, like she. Let them come to you. 678 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,520 I know, if only we could go back and tell her. 679 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:11,200 Yeah, well, but she still would have been a killer, so. 680 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,880 Probably. I wonder what would have 681 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,320 happened if she found just like a lovely living guy, like 682 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:19,400 someone who fulfilled her dreams but also could potentially she 683 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:20,400 might be one of those people that. 684 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,760 Sounds like she doesn't know how to give love either. 685 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,040 She wants to take. Yeah, she's a taker. 686 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,440 So she needed therapy. She did so. 687 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,680 She joined that Diamond Circle club for the Lonely Hearts Club. 688 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:36,840 Through the club, she met Richard Morton. 689 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:42,160 He was a businessman from Kansas, Kansas. 690 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,480 Morton initially showered her with affection, gifts and 691 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,800 attention, making him seem like a romantic dream that she'd 692 00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:54,080 always wanted so. The fantasy was becoming real. 693 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,080 It was. The fantasy quickly collapsed. 694 00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:58,640 Next line. Oh. 695 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,120 God. Morton was heavily in debt and 696 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Secret was secretly involved with another woman, so she's 697 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:08,280 pissed. Nanny didn't like that. 698 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,440 She's pissed, she's mad, she is just like, livid. 699 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160 Now I'm a fucking make you some dinner. 700 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,680 You want something to eat? Is you hungry? 701 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:26,760 Do you like prunes? So Nanny resumed corresponding 702 00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,520 with other men behind his back while plotting how to remove him 703 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:30,880 from her life. Classic. 704 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,880 Yeah, Classic Nanny. Classic Nanny. 705 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,520 Around that same time, Nanny's mother, Lou, came to live with a 706 00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,040 couple. Oh, boy. 707 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:44,080 Only a few days later, she died. Really. 708 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,000 She became violently ill and died suddenly. 709 00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,920 She's like, yeah, you can come stay. 710 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,000 Nanny She denied poisoning her mother. 711 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:57,760 Investigators later strongly suspected she was still 712 00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,000 responsible. Yeah, well, yeah, that one's not 713 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,840 like an oopsie. No, not at all. 714 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,760 Like I didn't. Do this unless she accidentally 715 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,840 gave her the food that maybe. What if she just ate a poison 716 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,480 prune maybe or something? Or a pie. 717 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,760 She didn't like intent. She might intend. 718 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,600 To kill her. Mother. 719 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080 So she didn't technically poison her, she poisoned herself. 720 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,400 Right. You're dumb, bitch. 721 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:29,480 Like mommy what you do? Those were my proofs. 722 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,760 You fat fuck gets your own snacks. 723 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:46,000 My name was on that. OK, so three months later, 724 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Richard Morton also died from symptoms nearly identical to 725 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,400 those suffered by Nanny's previous victim. 726 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,800 She ate from the same he ate. Same. 727 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,800 She did love her some friends, She really did. 728 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,080 Oh, God. Nanny's fifth and final husband, 729 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,800 Samuel Doss, was perhaps the most unusual of them because he 730 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,360 was not abusive, alcoholic or unfaithful. 731 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,520 OK. Instead, he was deeply 732 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,200 religious, conservative and obsessed with discipline and 733 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,080 being fruit. That's her dad. 734 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,440 That's her dad in a nutshell. Yep, he criticized Nanny's 735 00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,960 romance magazine, controlled finances and insisted on strict 736 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,760 routines within the household. Oh yeah, she's gonna kill him. 737 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,080 Yeah. So to Nanny, he was pretty 738 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:37,560 unbearable. Yeah, after Sam adjusted his 739 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,240 finances to give her more freedom and took out life 740 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,120 insurance policies, naming her beneficiary. 741 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,680 So he was trying to. He was, even though he was, you 742 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,960 know, a really still kind of shitty. 743 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,800 Yeah. He wasn't abusive at least. 744 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:52,920 Right. He well, he was. 745 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,400 In a different way, he. Was abusive, He was. 746 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,640 Just not physically. Emotionally and. 747 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,760 Yes, financially. Financially. 748 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,920 Yeah, but he did try to give her more freedom. 749 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,320 I don't know him, you know so. No one will anymore. 750 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:13,520 No, no, I didn't even tell you what happened to him. 3 guesses. 751 00:39:17,240 --> 00:39:20,440 She shot him. He lived half the way ever 752 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:24,640 after, so he took out life insurance policies naming her 753 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,320 beneficiary. So Nanny poisoned him with 754 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,440 arsenic laced prune cake and coffee. 755 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,080 Oh. Yeah, she. 756 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,120 Fucking loves her prunes. I didn't know prunes made cakes. 757 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,120 Yeah, you can make anything. I guess I let me. 758 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:45,040 Rephrase it, I didn't know. That you could make prune cake. 759 00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,800 Yeah, I get it's a fruit. I know it's a fruit. 760 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:50,000 So I guess you could just whatever with it, right? 761 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,360 You could fucking what are prunes? 762 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,720 They're dried apricots. No they're not. 763 00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:03,400 I know that for a fact. Feel like they're dried plums? 764 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:07,560 What is a prune? One moment, please. 765 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,560 Prune can function as a both a verb and a noun. 766 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,480 OK, wait. Oh, OK, that's good. 767 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,160 It a plum. It is a plum. 768 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,160 Yeah, you are So, Sir, you're like it is a dried apricot. 769 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,080 No. It can, or it could be a mild 770 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,600 laxative. Yeah. 771 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,760 I mean, we knew that. I love plums, that's my 772 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:30,280 favorite. Fruit. 773 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:34,200 I love plums. And I used to love prunes until 774 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:40,480 my son ate them and had blowouts in his diaper and I was like, I 775 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,160 don't want to prune anymore. Never again. 776 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:44,800 I hadn't had AI. Don't want to see that. 777 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:51,160 No, now it's been 45 years. But nanny's making me want to 778 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,920 prune again. So she poisoned him with the 779 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:57,920 Isn't arsenic the one that smells like almonds? 780 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,400 I don't know. I think that it is. 781 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,360 Is that rap? Or is that cyanide? 782 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,320 I'm pretty sure it's cyanide. I think cyanide smells like 783 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:12,160 almonds and only like 20% of the population can smell it. 784 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:14,800 OK let's. Or something like that. 785 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,160 Arsenic. That one tastes sour. 786 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:25,640 I haven't tasted it. I had a teacher in middle 787 00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:27,960 school. She would have to put rat poison 788 00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:31,000 on like the tip of her tongue sometime to thin out her blood. 789 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,720 Wow, yeah. That's. 790 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,440 Crazy. It was kind of cool. 791 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:37,000 She was a great teacher, loved her. 792 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,720 It doesn't say what it tastes like. 793 00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,320 I mean is. Cyanide. 794 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,520 The one that smells like almonds? 795 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,880 As far as smell, let me look. Smell I'm. 796 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,560 Pretty sure it is. It's completely odorless, but 797 00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:59,440 cyanide isn't. No, that's arsenic is completely 798 00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,560 but it does say it can give off a distinct garlic like smell. 799 00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,240 And then what was the other one? Cyanide. 800 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,000 I feel like that could be something smells like almonds. 801 00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,640 By God. I'm pretty positive, but either 802 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:23,560 way, he became bravely ill and spent weeks hospitalized but 803 00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:27,680 survived temporarily. We're just going to hold. 804 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,280 I'm listening, I'm listening, I'm trying to look up cyanide, 805 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:35,440 it says. Thinking a little longer. 806 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,760 OK, it's, it's like AI is telling you. 807 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,560 OK, it says. You're suspicious now? 808 00:42:43,720 --> 00:42:46,160 Yes, a bitter almond odor. OK. 809 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:47,480 So that you're right one. Yeah. 810 00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,240 Anyway, Sam became gravely ill and spent weeks in the hospital 811 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,000 but survived temporarily and the moment he returned home, Nanny 812 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,480 poisoned him again during a welcome home dinner and he died 813 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:00,800 that same night. Welcome home. 814 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,960 Yeah, you're dead. This time, this time, finally, 815 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:11,760 the doctors became suspicious. After 25 people, yeah, 25. 816 00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:16,400 So they decided to do an autopsy, OK? 817 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:20,280 And it revealed enormous amounts of arsenic in Sam's body. 818 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:22,560 And that's when Nanny was arrested. 819 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:23,640 Thank. God. 820 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,560 So she was arrested and questioned by police in 821 00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,480 Oklahoma, and throughout the interrogation, she remains 822 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,040 strangely cheerful. Like we were saying at the 823 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,760 beginning, flipping through romance magazines and giggling, 824 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:36,120 wall investigators were interrogating her. 825 00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,760 Psychopath. Full on psycho full. 826 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,160 On Psycho. She's like, she's gone. 827 00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,320 Yes, she's long gone. She doesn't even. 828 00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,400 She's not living reality. No, not in the slightest, right? 829 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,520 Eventually, she did confess. So would you like some prunes, 830 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,920 Officer I? Brought welcome home. 831 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:02,720 I brought snacks, they're like. Where's my TV? 832 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:03,400 Thanks. Yeah. 833 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:08,440 I wonder how long she had that TVI mean if she carried that out 834 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,680 of the fire. I wonder if she brought it all 835 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,480 the way from Charles Charlie's house. 836 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:15,880 I'm wondering, I don't know, you know, the history behind that 837 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,360 TV. But eventually she did confess 838 00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:23,000 not just to killing Sam, but to poisoning several other several 839 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:24,600 of her previous husbands as well. 840 00:44:25,240 --> 00:44:27,520 Her explanations were very casual. 841 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,240 It was one husband drank too much, another cheated, another 842 00:44:31,240 --> 00:44:33,920 controlled the television and refused to let her use electric 843 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,080 fans during hot weather. And to nanny these grievances 844 00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,880 justified murder. Listen, I was. 845 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,000 Hot. Yes. 846 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400 OK, so hot. I want to turn on the fan. 847 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,360 Hot temperature wise. OK and I was mad. 848 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,280 How? So what would you do, Officer? 849 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:55,880 So I just, you know, cyanide. Arsenic, you know. 850 00:44:55,880 --> 00:45:00,120 Arsenic you know Perez. It's in the recipe. 851 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:04,240 Look at the cookbook. I would love to see Nanny's 852 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:06,920 cookbook. It's probably crazy it. 853 00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,600 Would be wild 4 cups Arsenic 1 prune. 854 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:18,160 Authorities exhumed multiple bodies connected to her, and 855 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:22,040 Arsenic was found in several of the corpses, including those of 856 00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:25,680 her husbands and mother. Other family members were 857 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,640 believed to have been smothered, I guess like the kids. 858 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,880 Still, Oklahoma chose to prosecute her for only the 859 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:38,960 murder of Samuel Doss after the psychiatric evaluations deemed 860 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:42,240 that she was legally sane, which is questionable. 861 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,760 That's. Crazy. 862 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,160 It's crazy what is considered sane. 863 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,000 They're just like, as long as you know that killing is wrong, 864 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:54,960 that's sane, Which you could be very insane and and know that. 865 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,080 They're like, if you can work an oven, yeah, you're sane. 866 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:01,840 If you can measure out cups, you're saying you're saying 867 00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:07,240 that's it, Yeah, Anyway. You can move ATV. 868 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:12,440 Yeah, Sane Sane Nanny pled guilty in 1955 and received a 869 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,240 life sentence instead of execution because she was a 870 00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:16,680 woman. Oh. 871 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,400 Yeah. Oh. 872 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,960 So that's kind of cool, I guess. That's news. 873 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,680 She spent the remainder of her life in prison, reportedly still 874 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,520 reading romance magazines and fantasizing about true love. 875 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,120 Why would you stop now? Yeah, you, you that's. 876 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,280 It Yeah. You know, you might as well 877 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:34,960 carry on. It kept her going. 878 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,280 That's the only way she's going to have love. 879 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,840 Yes, is in her. Head. 880 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:41,240 That's it. That's it. 881 00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:44,640 You can't hurt anybody and. And that's fine. 882 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,680 And you don't have access to prunes anymore. 883 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,200 No, she can't do anything. No, Nanny Doss died of leukemia 884 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:56,640 in prison in 1965, and by then, the image of that cheerful 885 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,400 grandmother who giggled while discussing murder has cemented 886 00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:03,120 her place as one of America's most disturbing female serial 887 00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,720 killers. That is crazy, I've never heard 888 00:47:05,720 --> 00:47:06,680 of her before. Yeah. 889 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,560 And the fact that her name is Nancy and she goes by Nanny. 890 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,040 Yeah. Wait, was it Nancy? 891 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:15,880 You said Nancy I. Probably did. 892 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,160 And I don't know, I think it's cute. 893 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:20,800 It is really cute Nanny. I feel like that's like a cute 894 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,320 old timey like thing to do. And for those of you that are 895 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:29,000 wondering what she looks like, she is a heavyset woman with a 896 00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,880 gap in her teeth. This. 897 00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:38,920 Sounds so so like not nice. Well, I'm just saying I'm 898 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:42,560 explaining what she looks like and she's got the worst hair 899 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:44,440 I've ever seen. She does have a bad hair too. 900 00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:50,120 She has a nice smile, but it's also menacing. 901 00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,000 Probably creepy. Yeah, because she smiles with 902 00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:54,920 her teeth sometimes. She smiles without her teeth 903 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:55,720 sometimes. And. 904 00:47:55,720 --> 00:47:57,960 They'll be pictures. Again, her hair is so fucked up. 905 00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:01,880 Like wow, where did she go? Where are you? 906 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:06,920 Where are you, Nanny? But so basically her obsession 907 00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:12,080 with romance ended up causing her to poison everyone who 908 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,360 disappointed her. She looks like, I mean I would 909 00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:16,520 eat her food. The end. 910 00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,080 That's what she looks like. She she looks like. 911 00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:20,600 She looks like someone who'd be a good cook. 912 00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,960 Yes. Yeah, she looks trustworthy. 913 00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,600 She. Does she does? 914 00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,320 Like she looks like a really sweet grandma. 915 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,200 Yeah, that would make a bad ass pie. 916 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,720 Yep. I mean she doesn't look like a 917 00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:35,400 psychopath, I mean her hair would only. 918 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,240 Despite her hair, that would be her hair indicating Yep, that 919 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:40,160 would be her formula. Otherwise triangle. 920 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:43,040 I mean, she looks like a sweet lady. 921 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,560 Yeah, interesting. That's wild. 922 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,760 It's regular people. I mean they look regular. 923 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,160 They look, I mean most of our. Yeah, they all look regular. 924 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440 Yeah, I mean, everyone looks regular, I guess. 925 00:48:54,720 --> 00:48:57,240 Well, I mean, sometimes you can look a lot, You can look crazy. 926 00:48:57,240 --> 00:49:01,200 People look like people, but I don't think I would look at 927 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,000 these people. And think if I saw them walking 928 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,960 down the street, I'd be like, she's going to the grocery. 929 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,280 Yep. She's not going to go get a pin 930 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,040 and put it in a. Someone's scalp or the baby's 931 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,280 like soft spot or whatever. Oh my God, no. 932 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,880 Yeah, can't deal. No, can't freaking deal. 933 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:20,360 But that's the giggling granny. Giggling Granny. 934 00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,200 Yeah, I would be interested to talk to. 935 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:26,320 Her same. I think she would be because I 936 00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,360 don't like. I feel like she genuinely feels 937 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:29,880 justified. I think she does too. 938 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,960 She's like, these people are bad. 939 00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:33,200 Yep. You know. 940 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:38,400 Well, and for her to be in this fantasy land of I'm just trying 941 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:40,600 to find love. That's it, and she's just 942 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,720 doesn't fit into her fairy. She's picking the. 943 00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:43,920 Bad. She's got a bad. 944 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,680 Picker. She does have a bad picker, but 945 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,240 she's probably also attracting bad, of course. 946 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,240 Yeah. She's not. 947 00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:50,800 Great. No, she's not. 948 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:55,640 She's not great and that's why, moral of the story, you don't go 949 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:58,400 to the ads in the paper for. Yeah. 950 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,080 A a love for love, yeah. For your for your true love, 951 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,120 Yeah, you go to Tinder. Don't answer. 952 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,080 Yeah, don't. Don't look at ads. 953 00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:10,800 I wonder if there's still people out there that put in ads like 954 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,360 in the newspaper. Well, do you remember when 955 00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,760 Craigslist? Craigslist had the. 956 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:19,560 Dating section. The dating section but there was 957 00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:20,920 like. It's still there. 958 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,480 I can't remember really. I'm pretty positive it is. 959 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,000 There were some that was like missed connections or something. 960 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160 Oh interesting, like I saw this person on a train. 961 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,400 Like I saw so and so at the grocery store. 962 00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,320 Yeah, this is what you were wearing. 963 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:37,760 Yeah. This is what town, Yes. 964 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,040 Or whatever it is, right? The people do that on, like, 965 00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,800 TikTok. Really. 966 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,000 Yeah, I've seen plenty of people. 967 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:46,840 I've seen people that are like if your fiance is on his 968 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,240 Bachelorette or bachelorship and he's. 969 00:50:49,240 --> 00:50:50,960 Lying. He's cheating, He's cheating. 970 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,280 On you. Yeah, I've seen a lot of those 971 00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:53,840 too. Yeah, it's so fucked up. 972 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,480 It's like good. On I'm glad. 973 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,160 Good on women for sticking. Together, absolutely. 974 00:50:58,440 --> 00:50:59,960 Like have each other be a girl's girl. 975 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,840 But I'd love to find like. Or a boy's boy. 976 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,560 Or. Just be a good person. 977 00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,440 Yeah. Just be a good person, don't 978 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,440 lie, don't cheat, don't kill. Don't steal. 979 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,680 Don't poison. Yeah, so and eat not too many 980 00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,760 prunes. Don't, just maybe, stay away 981 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,120 from prunes. For a little bit, yeah. 982 00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,080 Especially after hearing this episode. 983 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,640 You never know. You don't what's gonna be in 984 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:22,880 them. You don't. 985 00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:25,800 I think that's why they stopped. Well I think it more for allergy 986 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,800 reasons bringing you can't bring home baked stuff to like schools 987 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:33,120 and stuff like your kids class. I think it's more allergy but 988 00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:34,320 it's also you could poison people. 989 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:37,000 It's also gross. It is, I don't know what your 990 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,560 sanitary situation you're there was this lady that would bring 991 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,720 like baked goods and stuff to this place that I would go to 992 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:49,120 and I went to her house one day and it was gross. 993 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,480 So nasty. Yep. 994 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,800 And I was like. That's why I have an issue with 995 00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:01,040 eating baked goods that are store bought. 996 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,400 That aren't store bought. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 997 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,760 But not you, Scott. Yep, not you, Scott. 998 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,840 Well, yeah, if I know them. Well, yeah, I know it's a 999 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,880 totally different. Story I've seen your living 1000 00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,320 space. Or something like that. 1001 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,520 I know what's up, yeah. But it was so gross, so nasty. 1002 00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,760 It was like, Oh my God. Yeah, I can't deal. 1003 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:26,800 Like, can't smoking cigarettes in the house and, like, bugs and 1004 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:28,320 just bugs. Yeah. 1005 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:32,840 Like, Nah, it was gross. Pet hair was like on every 1006 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:34,200 surface. Oh no. 1007 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,480 And I'm just saying no, I can't. This is too much. 1008 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:39,920 I can't deal with this. And then I. 1009 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:43,080 Just got disgusted. But please check out our 1010 00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:47,840 Patreon, go get on there. And again, we're going to be 1011 00:52:47,840 --> 00:52:52,160 posting some new stuff and wait for next week's episode I'm so 1012 00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:53,560 excited about. It going to be a great one. 1013 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,680 It's. So, so good. 1014 00:52:56,680 --> 00:53:00,200 And no, I already did that one last week. 1015 00:53:02,720 --> 00:53:05,880 No. Yes, that one's being. 1016 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,040 Put out on Monday, today. Today, yeah. 1017 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:14,040 They won't hear they'll this one's coming out next. 1018 00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,400 Week, I know. OK, Yeah, No, the one that we're 1019 00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,440 posting tonight, yes, you've been working on for quite some 1020 00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:21,560 time. But they won't. 1021 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:26,880 Doesn't matter on this episode. Oh yeah, I guess it doesn't. 1022 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:36,640 I hope you enjoyed it. We're like, no, wait, no, next 1023 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,440 week's episode is going to be so good. 1024 00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,240 I'm excited. It's more recent. 1025 00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,480 Yes. Than than episodes we've done. 1026 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,400 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So all right, be safe and 1027 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:51,360 remember we didn't do it.