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Hey guys, welcome to What's the 
Call the podcast where sports 

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meets side eye. 
We're here to break down the 

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matches, the meltdowns and the 
moments that make us pause and 

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say, what was that call? 
I'm Theo. 

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I'm Andrea. 
And we're glad you're here. 

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Whether you're sports obsessed 
or just here for the drama, 

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there's a seat for you 
courtside, so let's dive in. 

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Hi, Andrea. 
How's it going? 

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It's going well. 
We had a big week, it was a good

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week. 
It feels like forever that, 

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well, it's only been 2 episodes,
but it feels like forever that 

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we've just recorded the two of 
us, so it'll be a nice. 

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I know I was actually thinking 
that today. 

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Yeah, I guess the last couple of
weeks were exciting ones for the

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podcast. 
I mean, guys, if you like that 

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episode, please continue to 
listen. 

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There'll be more where that came
from. 

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And yeah, we appreciate all the 
support and the positive 

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feedback, so keep it coming. 
And please also always remember 

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to like and rate US and review 
us and follow us because that's 

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literally how the show grows. 
And we want to be able to bring 

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you more and more and more. 
So yeah, please, the reviews 

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really matter. 
Yeah, my mom told me that I 

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swear too much. 
So, you know, I'm going to make 

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a really conscious effort for my
dear mother to rein in the foul 

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language. 
I was like, OK, sorry, mom. 

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Like, we're reining in. 
We're reining in going forward. 

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So yeah, keep me honest. 
Oh, my God. 

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God. 
Oh, my. 

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This different person at home. 
No, I'm kidding. 

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But yeah, I feel like everyone 
really enjoyed the people have 

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spoken. 
Everyone loved the episode. 

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Everyone loves the podcast 
except one. 

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Naomi Osaka. 
Yes, yes, we got a response. 

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I think it was it was an 
indirect shot. 

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An interact but direct but. 
Direct direct. 

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You want to give some context. 
So we woke up the day after the 

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episode aired to an Instagram 
story from Naomi, and I'm just 

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going to read out exactly what 
she said, just so everybody 

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knows, OK? 
It's a thread that she uploaded 

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to, like a thread post that she 
uploaded to her Instagram to 

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her. 
Instagram and people were 

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tagging us in it, so that's how 
we found out. 

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Yeah, so she goes. 
I laugh when people that don't 

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know anything about tennis start
a podcast about tennis. 

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What do you mean grunting is 
unsportsmanlike and gives you 

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the egg? 
Watch a different sport. 

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Lol. 
And then she continues. 

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She just goes because who gave 
them a microphone? 

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Take it away. 
Take it away with multiple 

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wives. 
Burn, burn, burn. 

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OK, Thoughts. 
Yeah. 

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I have many thoughts actually. 
So she was referring to one an 

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episode where we discussed her 
match at the Australian Open 

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against Veronica Stayer, which 
we like released a few weeks ago

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and we clipped part of it where 
we speak about her grunting 

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during points and between first 
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So yeah, anyone who hasn't seen 
it, you can go back and re watch

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it on our Instagram. 
But I don't think what we said 

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was that bad or unfair. 
I don't know. 

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No, I don't think we even had a 
strong opinion about it. 

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We just raised the point as I 
think it's something that anyone

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who's a fan of tennis or even a 
tennis player, you know, thinks 

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about as sort of is grunting. 
Some people have really loud 

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grunts. 
And is that a potential 

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hindrance? 
All we wanted to do was, yeah, 

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raise it as like a point of 
discussion. 100% yeah. 

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And we also, if you go back and 
actually listen to the episode, 

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we're actually saying that we're
fans of hers. 

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So yeah, you know, maybe look at
your sources before going out to

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your followers and slagging us 
off. 

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And we're defending her too. 
We're saying that we don't think

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that, you know, her sort of 
yelling, come on, come on. 

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In between points are where 
Serrano Cristea lost is, is her 

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trying to get into her head or, 
you know, could be considered 

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hindrance even. 
We're just like, no, that's just

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her genuinely like egging 
herself on in the moment. 

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So. 
Yeah, Also let it be known that 

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we never claim to be like 
technical tennis experts. 

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We're just fans who love the 
sport and we want to talk about 

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it and spread the word. 
Yeah, I think in sports in 

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general and especially tennis, 
can be alienated a bit by the 

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sport because it's so technical,
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It's quite daunting to get into 
if you don't. 

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Get it? 
And we're trying to, like, get 

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more people to follow tennis and
make it more accessible, talk 

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about it in like a fun, casual 
way, right? 

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Everyone's entitled to their 
opinions and that was ours. 

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Exactly. 
And I think also again, fans 

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drive the sport as well. 
So I don't, I don't think it's 

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very nice to, you know, shit on 
fans. 

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Not nice. 
And also, yeah, it was just like

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kind of rude as well. 
Like we're entitled to our 

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opinion. 
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Like take it away. 
Her microphone Like no one, No 

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one's you know, no one's forcing
you to watch or listen. 

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You're fueling us. 
I mean, yeah, all in good humor,

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but that is the whole point of 
this podcast. 

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So like, everyone needs to chill
out. 

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Yeah, and not take things so 
seriously. 

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Exactly. 
OK, So bottom line is that we 

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may not be doing it the way 
other tennis podcasts are doing 

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it. 
This is our take. 

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We're trying to make it light 
and fun, accessible, as you 

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said, Andrea, so you know what, 
if you like it, you like it. 

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If you don't, you don't. 
So. 

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What? 
Can I say exactly when with 

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that, we're going to move into 
this week's Tennis News. 

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So in Tennis News, Destiny 
Ayeva, the Australian tennis 

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player, announced that she's 
retiring at the age of 25, very 

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young for tennis. 
It's super young. 

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She put out a post over the 
weekend announcing her 

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retirement where she calls 
tennis her toxic boyfriend, and 

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I'm going to read a part of her 
post. 

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It's very long. 
I'll read a part of it. 

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I want to say ginormous. 
Fuck you to everyone in the 

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tennis community who's ever made
me feel less than. 

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Fuck you to every single gambler
who sent me hate or death 

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threats. 
Fuck you to the people who sit 

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behind screens on social media. 
Yes, Destiny, Fuck you to the 

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people who sit behind screens on
social media commenting on my 

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body, my career or whatever the 
fuck they want to nitpick. 

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And fuck you to a sport that 
hides behind so-called class and

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gentlemanly values. 
Behind the white outfits and the

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traditions is a culture that's 
racist, misogynistic, homophobic

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and hostile to anyone who 
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So yeah, well, we'll start next 
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Less curses, but OK, back to the
main subject here. 

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That's pretty damning statement 
for the. 

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School. 
Yeah, right. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
I mean, it's pretty heavy. 

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It's heavy. 
I feel for her. 

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It's sad. 
Really sad. 

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And I think it's something we've
we've spoken about it, but as 

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well, I think in a way tennis 
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tradition and I don't know, like
legacy and all these things. 

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Very, yeah, like what she said, 
gentlemanly sport. 

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But, and we've experienced this 
on a very small scale, but the 

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amount of hate that you get from
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And trolls, Totally. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I can't even imagine. 
We can't imagine, Yeah, the 

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amount of hate that one gets, 
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And it's like you're playing a 
sport, but are you opening 

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yourself up to all of this like 
hatred and vitriol? 

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It's it's, I don't think it's 
fair like someone who's just an 

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athlete at the end of the day. 
I know and also their kids when 

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they start. 
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Which is like, makes it even 
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I mean, yeah, I guess she's 
stepping away, but. 

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Good for her for choosing 
herself and knowing the right 

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time to walk away from 
something. 100% but I think 

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yeah, it also, yeah, it just 
shows that there's a lot more 

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work to sort of be done in the 
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And clearly things have to 
change or, you know, there's an 

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argument to make for yeah, 
tennis as a culture changing and

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allowing more people into the 
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And you know, tennis I feel like
is in a way, I don't want to say

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an elitist sport, but I. 
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reputation it has as well. 
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Yeah, it definitely has that 
reputation, which, you know, 

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yeah, it'd be great if we can 
move away from that because it 

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doesn't need to be that way, I 
don't think. 

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Yeah, definitely. 
So obviously a lot of what we 

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talk about is quite light 
hearted and humorous and jokes 

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and we like to keep things 
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But we also definitely want to 
comment on these kinds of news 

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stories in the sport as well 
because they're really 

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important. 
And we also hope that even 

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though this has meant destiny, I
ever had to like step away from 

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the sport, that it sort of maybe
may nudge things in a more 

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positive and inclusive direction
going forward, right? 

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Yeah, definitely. 
I hope this serves as a bit of 

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an eye opener for tennis in 
general. 

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We want it to change and as you 
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Absolutely. 
OK, so now back to what we're 

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good at, the jokes. 
We're going to start with our 

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favorite character on the ATP 
tour, Daniel Medvedev. 

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He never fails to disappoint, 
even though I am slightly 

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disappointed in him this week 
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As much as I love the jokes, I 
was proud of him and towards the

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end of last season he was, you 
know, not having these absolute.

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Meltdowns. 
Meltdowns. 

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Breakdowns. 
Whenever he was losing a match, 

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he was trying to find a reason 
why and like, not taking 

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ownership, he was just probably 
having a bad day or playing 

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terribly. 
But no, we're back to classic 

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denial Medvedev, because in his 
match against Hugo Umber in 

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Rotterdam, he started having an 
absolute breakout and meltdown 

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about the balls. 
So yeah, Andrea, what was he 

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saying? 
Honestly, you and I have been 

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pissing ourselves about this for
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The videos of him like the clips
of him complaining and having a 

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complete freak out conniption 
over and over again. 

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It's so funny. 
OK, so he took issue with the 

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head tennis balls which 
apparently are very different to

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other balls on tour. 
According to him, they're not 

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round, they're square. 
They're not round. 

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He doesn't think they're round, 
he goes. 

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Are they round head balls? 
Are they round? 

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Are you sure? 
Because I see it not round and 

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then it continues. 
It goes. 

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It's a bit strange. 
So I think maybe we should 

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consider not playing with head 
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The Head Tour XT ball is not 
round, so we should not be 

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playing with it. 
Nobody should be buying it. 

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We should not be promoting a 
tennis ball that is not round. 

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The problem is when you touch it
with the racket, it does not 

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react the same way on your 
shots. 

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So how do you want us to play 
tennis? 

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So that was the first bit then? 
He freaked out even more. 

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Yeah, I think that that is 
pretty. 

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You know, I feel like he was 
restrained. 

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He was. 
Restrained. 

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Then he goes. 
These balls are horrible. 

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Please delete these fucking 
balls from this fucking life. 

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I'm like, you're so dramatic. 
And the best is like the last 

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bit. 
Yeah, the best is this. 

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Go ahead. 
These balls are made for people 

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who love to please, people who 
love to please with a little bit

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of you, said saliva. 
Which I don't know what that 

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even. 
Means me neither. 

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It's unclear. 
Oh, to know what goes on in 

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Danielle. 
'S head. 

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He also then went to proceed to 
like karate kick the backboard 

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of the court, like the LED 
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And I'm like, what is going on? 
It's just the funniest thing 

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I've ever seen. 
Like I can't, but sorry, go 

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ahead. 
No, I just think he needs to get

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it together. 
Like he has together. 

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Yeah, he apparently he does have
a point because Demenor also 

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apparently complained about the 
balls. 

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A lot of players were 
complaining about the balls. 

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And again, we are not here to 
comment on like are these balls 

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correct or not but. 
My my my only thought is both 

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players are playing with these. 
Balls. 

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Yeah, right. 
So trick, it's a level playing 

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field. 
It's a level playing field. 

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I mean, I'm curious to see maybe
this is enough to get these 

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balls like, deleted off the 
tour, as he says, deleted from 

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this fucking life. 
Yeah, this really isn't the 

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episode to stop swearing. 
But anyways, yeah, I mean, 

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again, he's brought us great 
content. 

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We can try and clip the 
backboard kick. 

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It's fucking jokes. 
But yeah, thanks for providing 

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us quality entertainment as 
always. 

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Yeah, as always, never change, 
but also change. 

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Change for your own good, but 
never change. 

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Change for your own sanity. 
Yeah, he and also proceeded to 

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losing relatively early on. 
So I think whenever he gets in 

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these headspaces, it's just not 
good. 

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Yeah, but I don't think it's a 
bad loss for him, like losing 

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against Zoomberg and indoor like
hard court match, but also take 

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responsibility, you know? 
Yeah. 

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That would be some growth and 
maturity. 

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Exactly so Yannick Sinners 
outfits are just the gifts that 

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keep on giving. 
He really are. 

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He debuted a new collection with
Nike, Yeah, which apparently is 

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not going to be sold to the 
public. 

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Yeah. 
I don't fully understand. 

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I don't know the like marketing 
behind something like that, but 

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it's. 
Basically, they're like bringing

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back, or maybe not bringing back
like a new that, sorry, an old 

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line that they used to have 
called ACG, which is like high 

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sort of winter sports clothing, 
I believe. 

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Yeah. 
So Nike has this line called 

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ACG, which is all conditions 
gear. 

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And for those of you who don't 
know, Yannick Sinner was also or

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is a really good skier as well. 
And I think ultimately, when he 

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was choosing which route to 
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skiing. 
Obviously he chose tennis. 

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But to be quite honest, in terms
of the outfits, I think skiing 

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would have been the better 
choice because he looks way 

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better in ski gear. 
So in tennis gear. 

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So yeah, he's debuted this past 
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and I think he looked actually 
pretty good as opposed to cool 

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his mattress, right? 
Yeah, yeah. 

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He said that he was more 
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with other brands. 
Oh, so was he like slagging off?

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I think he was kind of 
indirectly slagging off his 

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previous, so he can't say like, 
yeah, match kits, he said. 

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There were a lot of 
conversations about what could 

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be better, what wasn't right, 
what worked well. 

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So, OK, he's very subtle. 
A subtle dig. 

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But yeah, I think that's his 
indirect way of saying my 

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Australian Open match kit was 
not good. 

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That's his way of saying it. 
So he agrees with us, basically.

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He agrees with us. 
He agrees with us. 

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First he changes shorts to 
white. 

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Now he's agreeing with us. 
What can I say, Anik? 

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The influence is crazy. 
I'm kidding. 

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OK. 
So, yeah. 

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Well, to be fair, he's doing 
pretty well on the tennis thing,

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despite the outfit. 
So he probably did make the 

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right choice between tennis and 
skiing. 

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Yeah, but to be fair, he's. 
He could probably do both 

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Skiing. 
Just a bit dangerous. 

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I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah. 
He's a man of many talents. 

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We love to see it. 
OK, so enough about the fit 

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checks. 
We now have actually some crazy 

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news to talk about and I am so 
here for it. 

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And that is Serena Williams 
potential return to tennis. 

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Let's fucking go. 
I'm so excited because obviously

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there's no smoke without fire. 
I think everyone's probably 

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heard by now that she has like 
appeared on wanting to get back 

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on like the WADA anti doping 
list. 

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And you need to clear yourself 
in order to go back to 

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competing. 
There's like a whole process and

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I think it can take months and 
obviously it's hard to keep that

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private because it's like public
information. 

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And so apparently she keeps, 
like, progressing in that 

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process, which, I mean, I feel 
like you don't get on that list 

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if there's no intent, like, 
unless you've signaled intent. 

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I think. 
Yeah, I think she's definitely 

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plotting A comeback. 
I mean, maybe that's also just 

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me saying that because I really 
want it to be true. 

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And I think, yeah, caveat, it 
could be singles, it could be 

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double S, it could be it, 
whatever, but it doesn't matter.

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It doesn't matter. 
I would love to see her play 

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double s with her sister. 
And her sister still hasn't 

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retired, so we spoke. 
About how she's kind of like, 

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still very capable, right? 
Yeah, still very capable and it 

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must be hard also retiring from 
tennis for however many years 

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her life was torn and travelling
it. 

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Must be. 
So yeah, it must leave like a 

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huge void, like, no matter how 
much you have going on. 

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I mean, she's Serena Williams. 
She's got her two kids, a lovely

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husband, a great life like all 
her like. 

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And so many other like business 
ventures. 

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But I think ultimately, when 
you've grown up and like for so 

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many years, focused on one thing
so intensely, it must be so hard

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to just let it go, especially 
when you're her and your older 

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sister's still doing it, right. 
Yeah. 

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And I think, you know, what 
probably sets her apart from 

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other players is like, the 
reason she's done so well, she's

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succeeded. 
She's probably the greatest, you

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know, female or just, yeah, one 
of the greatest tennis players 

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of all time is, you know, her 
passion and love for the sport 

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100%. 
I also feel like I feel like 

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she's probably looking around 
and she's like, damn, I could 

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probably still take it to these 
these girls. 

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Like I think she really wants to
like have another cracker that 

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record. 
I mean, I would absolutely die. 

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I know, I know. 
This is like all of our 

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nostalgic prayers answered like 
one of the Ogs potentially back.

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Honestly, they've been coming 
through for us in 2026. 

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Yeah, like often they can sort 
of really hang in the shadows. 

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But we've had Roger out in 
Australia, rough out in 

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Australia, Andre Agones see out 
in Australia, and now Serena 

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might actually come back. 
How cool would that be? 

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We love it. 
We love to see. 

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It so yeah, Serena, if you if 
you see this or if you hear 

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this, everyone would die. 
I'm sure you know that. 

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But just to further confirm, 
please be amazing, yes? 

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So we also can't not talk about 
the Winter Olympics. 

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Has to be done. 
It's only every four years, 

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after all. 
And I have loved the Winter 

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Olympics. 
It's been so, so fun to watch. 

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So fun and it gives us the 
opportunity to watch sports that

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you never really think of at 
another time and which? 

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Did I think I'd be watching 
curling on a Friday night? 

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No, No and. 
These and it gives us the 

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opportunity to really appreciate
like these athletes that work so

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hard 24/7 and only really like 
get the platform every four 

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years for like the mainstream 
platform, the mainstream. 

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Platform. 
Yeah, Mainstream platform. 

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And there's been some really 
funny things going on there as 

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well as like some big, big 
stories as well. 

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So should we start with the with
the joke stories? 

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The condom story. 
I mean, what are they doing in 

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the Olympic Village? 
I mean, we know what they're 

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doing in the Olympic Village, 
but that's kind of insane. 

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It was, I think. 
Yeah, they. 

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Ran out of condoms a few days 
in. 

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Day three or something or I 
don't want to don't call me on 

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day three, but it was something 
crazy. 

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And like I heard like one of the
guys like in charge like of the 

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IO at the IOC being like, yeah, 
there was 10,000 condoms and 

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it's 2800 athletes. 
So do the math. 

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Go figure. 
That is kind of crazy, I think. 

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Wild. 
That is wild. 

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But I guess it also makes sense,
right? 

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Like lot of testosterone? 
There's a lot of testosterone, 

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but I don't even keep it in. 
I don't know. 

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Clearly, you know, good for 
them. 

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They that's probably a good way 
to, I don't know, like release. 

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Stream as well. 
Well, yeah, they're clearly 

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going at it. 
I mean, yeah, it's not 

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dissimilar to the the tennis 
tour. 

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No, I guess not. 
Yeah, and I'm talking about the 

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tennis tour and, like, juniors 
and, like, challengers. 

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Yeah, but I feel like everyone's
just getting with each other, 

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like what's going on. 
It's literally like being in 

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camp. 
I mean, I think they've 

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replenished the stocks now, so I
think it's all good. 

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OK, good. 
They were trying to find like, 

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sponsors. 
That's actually good, good 

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opportunity. 
Yeah, I saw a quote from some 

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athlete being like, they 
promised us more, we'll arrive, 

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but we don't know when. 
I'm like why are they acting 

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like that's like food shortage 
at the war or something? 

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Yeah, they're rationing condom. 
They're rationing. 

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That's what it sounds like 
anyway. 

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Yeah. 
Everyone needs to control 

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themselves. 
Focus on competition, kids. 

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OK, Cheating scandal. 
The cheating scandal, Wow, that 

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really went viral. 
That went like zero to 100 

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viral. 
I mean, I would be mortified if 

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I was the ex-girlfriend. 
Yeah, she spoke anonymously to 

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Norwegian newspaper and she was 
just like, it's going to be 

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really hard to forgive him. 
And she was very nice. 

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But yeah, that she didn't ask 
for any of this. 

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She doesn't want her name to be 
public. 

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Apparently, the Norwegian 
newspaper has gotten requests 

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they want. 
They like people are like, we'll

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buy her name or other news 
sources or by her name. 

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Yeah, like by her name. 
So she's not anonymous anymore 

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so that they know who she. 
Is Oh, she's anonymous. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
No one knows. 

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I mean no one in the public. 
House has no one tipped her off?

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I don't know. 
That's crazy. 

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OK, well, she's got a solid. 
Group around her OK? 

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That's interesting. 
But honestly, yeah, I mean, I 

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feel like everyone will have 
heard about this, but do we want

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to just give a quick rundown of 
what happened? 

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So the Norwegian biathlete 
Sterla Holm Legrid, apologies if

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I've butchered his name on 
winning bronze medal in the 

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biathlon, announced that he'd 
made the biggest mistake of his 

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life three months ago and 
cheated on his girlfriend. 

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Of six months. 
So three months into a 

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relationship, he cheated on the 
love of his life, apparently the

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most beautiful woman in the 
world, and that was his response

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to winning the bronze medal. 
Yeah, I was going to say, wow. 

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I feel like he was implying like
the bronze medal kind of means 

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nothing if she's not by his 
side. 

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Exactly like. 
Jesus Christ, dude, like you're 

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with her for six months? 
I mean, listen, no one knows how

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he's feeling, but if I was the 
girl I'd be pissed. 

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No, it's, it's, it's insane. 
I mean, she definitely didn't 

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ask for this. 
And he's like, I'm committing 

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social suicide for you. 
No, I I'm sure you thought like,

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oh, this is a grand gesture 
that's gonna win her back. 

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Like so romantic. 
I'm sorry, but people are just, 

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yeah, I mean, I kind of feel bad
for him now, 'cause. 

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I know it's it's just. 
Also, the response has been, 

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yeah, everyone's just ripping it
off and. 

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She responded anonymously, 
right? 

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Yes, yes. 
So she responded anonymously via

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a Norwegian, I don't know, like 
gossip site or newspaper and 

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just basically said like, it's 
going to be really hard to 

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forgive him. 
And she didn't ask for this. 

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So I feel for her. 
Like, I don't know, I definitely

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feel for her. 
I don't know why why I just said

453
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,400
that with hesitation. 
I definitely feel for her but he

454
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,800
just gives me the creepers. 
I don't know. 

455
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,360
I know apparently I think I 
would understand it more if it 

456
00:25:58,360 --> 00:26:01,640
was a spur of the moment thing 
where he was just like he wins 

457
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,840
this medal and he's like, Oh my 
God, I have to, you know, I'm 

458
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,200
just thinking about my 
girlfriend or my ex-girlfriend 

459
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,320
who I, you know, cheated on, 
whatever. 

460
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,320
But apparently he planned it. 
That's something. 

461
00:26:13,360 --> 00:26:15,560
Weirder. 
You planned it, yeah. 

462
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,200
OK, Yeah. 
No, yeah. 

463
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,640
I mean, I just, I don't even 
know like what else to say on 

464
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,320
this. 
I'm just like dude, I don't 

465
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,760
know, go home and like think 
about your actions. 

466
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,200
I like don't cheat on your 
girlfriend if she means so much.

467
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,120
I don't know. 
And also when I first read the 

468
00:26:32,120 --> 00:26:34,160
headline, I was like, OK, surely
they've been together for 

469
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,280
however many years. 
Not that I'm saying that like 

470
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,960
cheating after eight years is 
worse than or is better than 

471
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,040
cheating after three months. 
But I'm like, OK, you cheat on 

472
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,960
your girlfriend 3 months into a 
very new relationship like that 

473
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880
is that's a lot, you know? 
Yeah. 

474
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,680
And then to make such a thing I 
mean. 

475
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,600
To make such a thing. 
Also I read that a year ago, I 

476
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:56,880
think it was the World Cup or 
something at some tournament. 

477
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,280
He was also competing obviously 
in the biathlon and he had a 

478
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:05,600
different girlfriend at the time
and he refused to see her in the

479
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,320
weeks leading up to the 
tournament because he didn't 

480
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:09,920
want to get sick. 
OK, he's. 

481
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,120
He's with, like, crucial 
distance from his. 

482
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,960
Yeah, he sounds a little office 
rocker. 

483
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,080
Yeah, honestly. 
And yeah, a little manipulative 

484
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,560
and maybe, I mean, most 
definitely not, not a good 

485
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,080
boyfriend. 
So yeah, we don't approve. 

486
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:28,880
And he took the spotlight from 
his Norwegian teammate, who won 

487
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:29,920
the goal. 
See. 

488
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,480
That's not cool. 
That's another thing that I, I, 

489
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,760
I don't, I don't love that. 
And no, I mean, last episode we 

490
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,200
said no publicity is bad 
publicity, but I don't love this

491
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,480
publicity for him. 
And also, apparently another one

492
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:46,600
of their Norwegian teammates 
died in December in a really 

493
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,240
tragic accident. 
And yeah, and that's not, you 

494
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,320
know, and this was. 
Not receiving nearly as much. 

495
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,360
No, no, no, no, no. 
And someone who was one of his 

496
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:58,320
best friends. 
OK. 

497
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,760
I think final call here is back 
in your box and just like. 

498
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:04,600
Yeah, yeah, I know. 
It's I'm trying to. 

499
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:08,280
Steal the limelight with your 
relationship drama. 

500
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,120
OK, so enough of the drama and 
like the silliness. 

501
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:20,240
We also would love to just touch
on a few of the biggest 

502
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,160
storylines that have interested 
us over these last 10 days or so

503
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,120
at the Winter Olympics. 
Sort of three storylines that 

504
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:33,920
have interested us the most on 
the ice slash snow at the Winter

505
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,440
Olympics. 
So I think we should start with 

506
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:42,600
Lindsey Vonn. 
So tragic, so sad how she 

507
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:46,360
obviously crashed like pretty 
much not the first turn, but 

508
00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,720
like the third turn in the 
downhill on like day two of the 

509
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,240
entire competition, which is 
really sad. 

510
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,800
And obviously she is on the 
older side. 

511
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,240
I'm guessing it would have been 
her last shot at an Olympic 

512
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,240
medal. 
I don't know. 

513
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:02,920
She did really well in 
qualifying. 

514
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,360
She was, yeah. 
She was also a favorite for the 

515
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:12,520
medal and she crashed early on 
in the downhill and it was hard 

516
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,680
to watch. 
I couldn't watch it. 

517
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,760
Really tough to watch. 
And obviously she started 

518
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:20,080
already knowing that she had an 
ACL injury, right? 

519
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,600
But this had nothing to do with 
that. 

520
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,440
I think she just got really 
unlucky and her pole hit one of 

521
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,600
the gates and she just 
completely. 

522
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,640
Yeah, insane. 
Poor woman. 

523
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,600
Well, obviously now we know 
she's she got airlifted out and 

524
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,520
is got flown to like Innsbruck, 
which is kind of crazy as well, 

525
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,560
like, you know, to a specialist 
clinic and has had all the 

526
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,760
surgeries and now I think she 
has like a complete tibia break,

527
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,880
which is insane. 
Yeah, I just I don't know how 

528
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040
you wake up in the morning and 
are like, yeah, let's become a 

529
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,840
downhill skiers scary. 
It's. 

530
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,960
So scary, any of these. 
Sports. 

531
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Like any of these sports, yeah. 
When you watch them go down, 

532
00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:00,560
they reach speeds of like 90 
miles an hour. 

533
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,920
Crazy women. 
It's just, it's insane. 

534
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,600
It's insane. 
And the way that they jump, I'm 

535
00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:06,240
like, this is the most 
treacherous thing. 

536
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,280
It's hard to watch because 
you're kind of expecting them 

537
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,240
to, like, eat shit, you know, 
always. 

538
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,320
It's like, how do they? 
And I feel like you have to be a

539
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,000
little bit. 
Yeah, you have to be very brave 

540
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:18,480
to get into that. 
So brave. 

541
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240
I mean, yeah, you have to be cut
from a very specific type of 

542
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:21,600
clothes. 
Yeah. 

543
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,640
I think any Olympic, winter 
Olympic sport, apart from 

544
00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:31,120
curling, it's chilling. 
Curling is like, yeah, so like 

545
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,320
it's literally like you have 
every like life threatening 

546
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,520
sport and curling and curling 
Anyway, we obviously wish her 

547
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,920
the speedest of recoveries and 
she's a GOAT, so yeah. 

548
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:47,200
Ilya Malinin, the quad God, the 
favorite for the Gold in figures

549
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:51,840
game. 
He crashed twice in his 

550
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,480
freestyle routine. 
It was also a really hard watch.

551
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,080
Yeah, it was honestly pretty 
devastating. 

552
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,560
I was devastated for him. 
He has a gold in the team event.

553
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,960
I don't know, it's it was just 
so sad for him. 

554
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,640
There's been so much build up, 
so much anticipation. 

555
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,240
So much hype. 
He coined his own nickname of 

556
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:20,160
Quad God because he's the first 
figure skater to land a 

557
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,280
quadruple axle ever in a 
competition. 

558
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,840
So OK, so he didn't walk away 
empty handed. 

559
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,800
We love that for him at least. 
But obviously this hit him 

560
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:34,040
really hard and it was clearly a
big choke mentally. 

561
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:36,440
It was a massive choke, right? 
He ended 8th. 

562
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,360
After being the favorite, yeah. 
He was going to, yeah, win by a 

563
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,520
lot. 
He was going to gold by a lot in

564
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,240
the lead up tournaments, World 
Cup, everything, you know, he'd 

565
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:50,480
won gold. 
So it was a massive choke on his

566
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
end and poor guy. 
Poor guy. 

567
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,560
He's only 21. 
It's his first Olympics. 

568
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,440
OK, fine, he has some other 
shots. 

569
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:01,280
He has some other shots. 
Figure skating. 

570
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,560
Yeah, figure skating. 
There's not much longevity. 

571
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,040
Or no, not at all. 
People are retire very, very 

572
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:11,160
young. 
So I think there's one figure 

573
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,720
skater who's 26, and she's like,
I'm the grandma of, you know, of

574
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,920
the Olympics basically in figure
skating because, yeah, by 26, 

575
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,880
most, most Figure skaters have 
retired. 

576
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,280
Crazy. 
OK, well, sorry for him. 

577
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,840
That's really sad. 
Poor guy. 

578
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:30,600
I know, I feel, I know. 
It shows like the mental side of

579
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,680
sport again. 
Yeah, how brutal it is, Yeah. 

580
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,880
When you put so much, when 
there's so much pressure on you 

581
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,400
and so much self-imposed 
pressure as well. 

582
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,720
Yeah, I feel he just couldn't do
it. 

583
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,280
And the response has been, yeah,
for the most part, very 

584
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,360
supportive of him. 
So hopefully he can come back 

585
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,000
next Olympics even stronger and 
get the gold. 

586
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,520
We're rooting for you. 
Here we go, Team USA. 

587
00:32:54,800 --> 00:33:00,360
Scotty James, the two time 
Olympic medalist, also had a 

588
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720
really tough snowboard in in 
snowboarding. 

589
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:08,480
Huffpipe Australian, Australian 
most decorated Australian Winter

590
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:12,720
Olympian. 
He was going for the gold a few 

591
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:16,680
days ago in the halfpipe final. 
He yeah, has a bronze medal and 

592
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,280
a silver medal. 
And it was, he said that his 

593
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:22,360
North Star was the gold medal 
basically like leading up to it.

594
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,920
That's all. 
That's this is all he wanted, 

595
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,760
his first in qualifying and fell
just short of a gold medal. 

596
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:37,640
He, in his third run, did a new 
trick, a really complicated 

597
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,720
jump, and if he'd landed it, he 
would have gotten gold. 

598
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,920
And he just missed it and had to
settle for silver. 

599
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,320
But it was also a really hard 
watch. 

600
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,080
He was crying. 
It was devastating for him. 

601
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,760
It would have been such a great 
story. 

602
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,000
He has a great documentary on 
Netflix, sports documentary. 

603
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,320
So yeah. 
Check it out, it's called pipe. 

604
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,320
Dream. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

605
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,920
Yeah, I love that. 
But I also, I I love him because

606
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,680
he's just, he's jokes. 
He's jokes. 

607
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,040
We love humour on this podcast. 
And I mean, his tick tock is 

608
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,440
hilarious. 
I love his bromance with Daniel 

609
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,679
Ricardo, the F1 driver. 
Who introduced him to his wife? 

610
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:16,960
Exactly. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

611
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,760
So. 
Yeah, we love him, but he's such

612
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,400
a good sport. 
He was really positive about in 

613
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,239
the end, he was like, I'm going 
to take a few days, I'll 

614
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,040
probably cry, but you know, I'll
get back. 

615
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,360
And he kind of alluded to the 
fact that he'll probably be back

616
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,679
next Winter Olympics. 
Yeah, let's hope so. 

617
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:35,920
So, so I think ultimately what 
this shows is that in these like

618
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,199
types of, I mean, I'm going to 
call them extreme sports because

619
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:39,960
to me, they're extreme. 
Yeah. 

620
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,760
It all comes down to like a 
split second, really. 

621
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:46,679
Yeah. 
I mean, you're kind of, I don't 

622
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:49,159
want to say you're battling the 
elements, but you kind of are. 

623
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Yeah. 
I don't know. 

624
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:52,960
So intense you're out there in 
the. 

625
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,159
Cold. 
Cold. 

626
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,320
Like these brutal conditions. 
Snow, Yeah. 

627
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:01,120
Yeah, it's the Winter Olympics 
to me. 

628
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:05,560
I watch them like, yeah, in such
awe of the athletes. 

629
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,800
It's incredible. 
And they're really like 

630
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:13,920
dangerous, high stakes sports. 
Like, one wrong move and you 

631
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,960
know you're out. 
Yeah, you're out. 

632
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:18,760
I mean, it's been fun to have 
them on. 

633
00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:21,560
It's been a good like, I mean, 
we've been really lucky. 

634
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:26,480
Like it's really helped us sort 
of deal with our Post Australian

635
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,160
Open Blues. 
Well, right, Well, I feel like 

636
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,480
there's plenty to come. 
This year there was plenty to 

637
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,680
come. 
I love the Olympics so much and 

638
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,120
I especially the Winter 
Olympics. 

639
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:38,800
Yeah, and I. 
Love, fun to watch like. 

640
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,360
I mean, I guess for both of us, 
Germany is doing pretty well, 

641
00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,320
but Greece and Spain, it's not 
really our best moment for our 

642
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,200
country. 
But that's why I love the 

643
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,080
Olympics, is to like, you know, 
get that, like national spirit 

644
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,400
going. 
It's great. 

645
00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:55,720
I love it. 
So yeah, we're big fans of the 

646
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:57,560
Olympics. 
On what's it called? 

647
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:07,080
So with that, should we do one 
final call to end the episode? 

648
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,360
Let's do it. 
Let's do it. 

649
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,800
I'm going to pose the question. 
So when careers are decided by 

650
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:19,240
split seconds and single points,
how much of elite sport is a 

651
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:22,000
skill and how much is surviving 
the moment? 

652
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,560
We need to weigh in on this. 
It's a deep question. 

653
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,200
It's a deep question. 
So it might not be that quick of

654
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,240
a call, but still a final call. 
Let's go. 

655
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:37,680
I would say 5050 like you have 
to have oh, you. 

656
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,400
Need to have the talent and the 
skill and the. 

657
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:45,920
Athletic ability and the Yeah. 
But I think what really makes 

658
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:49,200
like champions is the mentality 
of it. 

659
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,960
Like, you can have so much 
talent and natural ability and 

660
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,400
you can put in so much work, but
if in those moments you can't 

661
00:36:56,240 --> 00:37:01,000
perform, yeah. 
I think you've pretty much 

662
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,360
summed it up, but I I also think
that you can give yourself an 

663
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,400
edge if you really work on like 
your the mental. 

664
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:15,120
Yeah, I think it's really worth 
the investment on the mental 

665
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,640
side, like getting a sports 
psychologist, like really 

666
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:25,400
unpicking your brain almost. 
And like I use visualization for

667
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:31,760
like my normal ass day job to 
like think ahead through 

668
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000
presentations or whatever. 
But I think that it can really 

669
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,560
make a massive difference in 
professional sports generally, 

670
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:44,440
be it these crazy winter sports 
or tennis or anything else. 

671
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,800
I think that I think that you 
can get yourself an edge if you 

672
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:50,960
work on that. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

673
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:55,200
Yeah, OK, Well, that hard 
hitting take. 

674
00:37:55,960 --> 00:38:00,200
Athletes, listen up, invest in 
your mental capacity. 

675
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:02,120
It'll help you. 
And you can thank us later. 

676
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,680
You know, we're just trying to 
wrap up an episode here on a on 

677
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:13,040
a high note and a hopeful note. 
There is hope, but yeah, we will

678
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,400
be back with another interview 
next week. 

679
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So TuneIn, it'll be a fun one. 
We're very excited for it. 

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And until then, enjoy your week 
and we will see you then. 

681
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Thanks for listening. 
That's it from us this week. 

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If you enjoyed the episode, make
the call, follow rate and share 

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it with someone who loves the 
drama as much as the sports. 

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Send us your voice notes, hot 
takes, and soft launch sightings

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at What's the Call Pod. 
Until next time, what's the 

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call?
