Hey guys, welcome to What's the Call the podcast where sports
meets side eye. We're here to break down the
matches, the meltdowns and the moments that make us pause and
say, what was that call? I'm Theo.
I'm Andrea. And we're glad you're here.
Whether you're sports obsessed or just here for the drama,
there's a seat for you courtside, so let's dive in.
Hi, Andrea. How's it going?
It's going well. We had a big week, it was a good
week. It feels like forever that,
well, it's only been 2 episodes, but it feels like forever that
we've just recorded the two of us, so it'll be a nice.
I know I was actually thinking that today.
Yeah, I guess the last couple of weeks were exciting ones for the
podcast. I mean, guys, if you like that
episode, please continue to listen.
There'll be more where that came from.
And yeah, we appreciate all the support and the positive
feedback, so keep it coming. And please also always remember
to like and rate US and review us and follow us because that's
literally how the show grows. And we want to be able to bring
you more and more and more. So yeah, please, the reviews
really matter. Yeah, my mom told me that I
swear too much. So, you know, I'm going to make
a really conscious effort for my dear mother to rein in the foul
language. I was like, OK, sorry, mom.
Like, we're reining in. We're reining in going forward.
So yeah, keep me honest. Oh, my God.
God. Oh, my.
This different person at home. No, I'm kidding.
But yeah, I feel like everyone really enjoyed the people have
spoken. Everyone loved the episode.
Everyone loves the podcast except one.
Naomi Osaka. Yes, yes, we got a response.
I think it was it was an indirect shot.
An interact but direct but. Direct direct.
You want to give some context. So we woke up the day after the
episode aired to an Instagram story from Naomi, and I'm just
going to read out exactly what she said, just so everybody
knows, OK? It's a thread that she uploaded
to, like a thread post that she uploaded to her Instagram to
her. Instagram and people were
tagging us in it, so that's how we found out.
Yeah, so she goes. I laugh when people that don't
know anything about tennis start a podcast about tennis.
What do you mean grunting is unsportsmanlike and gives you
the egg? Watch a different sport.
Lol. And then she continues.
She just goes because who gave them a microphone?
Take it away. Take it away with multiple
wives. Burn, burn, burn.
OK, Thoughts. Yeah.
I have many thoughts actually. So she was referring to one an
episode where we discussed her match at the Australian Open
against Veronica Stayer, which we like released a few weeks ago
and we clipped part of it where we speak about her grunting
during points and between first and second serve.
So yeah, anyone who hasn't seen it, you can go back and re watch
it on our Instagram. But I don't think what we said
was that bad or unfair. I don't know.
No, I don't think we even had a strong opinion about it.
We just raised the point as I think it's something that anyone
who's a fan of tennis or even a tennis player, you know, thinks
about as sort of is grunting. Some people have really loud
grunts. And is that a potential
hindrance? All we wanted to do was, yeah,
raise it as like a point of discussion. 100% yeah.
And we also, if you go back and actually listen to the episode,
we're actually saying that we're fans of hers.
So yeah, you know, maybe look at your sources before going out to
your followers and slagging us off.
And we're defending her too. We're saying that we don't think
that, you know, her sort of yelling, come on, come on.
In between points are where Serrano Cristea lost is, is her
trying to get into her head or, you know, could be considered
hindrance even. We're just like, no, that's just
her genuinely like egging herself on in the moment.
So. Yeah, Also let it be known that
we never claim to be like technical tennis experts.
We're just fans who love the sport and we want to talk about
it and spread the word. Yeah, I think in sports in
general and especially tennis, can be alienated a bit by the
sport because it's so technical, because.
It's quite daunting to get into if you don't.
Get it? And we're trying to, like, get
more people to follow tennis and make it more accessible, talk
about it in like a fun, casual way, right?
Everyone's entitled to their opinions and that was ours.
Exactly. And I think also again, fans
drive the sport as well. So I don't, I don't think it's
very nice to, you know, shit on fans.
Not nice. And also, yeah, it was just like
kind of rude as well. Like we're entitled to our
opinion. Yeah, a response.
Like take it away. Her microphone Like no one, No
one's you know, no one's forcing you to watch or listen.
You're fueling us. I mean, yeah, all in good humor,
but that is the whole point of this podcast.
So like, everyone needs to chill out.
Yeah, and not take things so seriously.
Exactly. OK, So bottom line is that we
may not be doing it the way other tennis podcasts are doing
it. This is our take.
We're trying to make it light and fun, accessible, as you
said, Andrea, so you know what, if you like it, you like it.
If you don't, you don't. So.
What? Can I say exactly when with
that, we're going to move into this week's Tennis News.
So in Tennis News, Destiny Ayeva, the Australian tennis
player, announced that she's retiring at the age of 25, very
young for tennis. It's super young.
She put out a post over the weekend announcing her
retirement where she calls tennis her toxic boyfriend, and
I'm going to read a part of her post.
It's very long. I'll read a part of it.
I want to say ginormous. Fuck you to everyone in the
tennis community who's ever made me feel less than.
Fuck you to every single gambler who sent me hate or death
threats. Fuck you to the people who sit
behind screens on social media. Yes, Destiny, Fuck you to the
people who sit behind screens on social media commenting on my
body, my career or whatever the fuck they want to nitpick.
And fuck you to a sport that hides behind so-called class and
gentlemanly values. Behind the white outfits and the
traditions is a culture that's racist, misogynistic, homophobic
and hostile to anyone who doesn't fit in its mold.
So yeah, well, we'll start next episode.
Less curses, but OK, back to the main subject here.
That's pretty damning statement for the.
School. Yeah, right.
Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's pretty heavy.
It's heavy. I feel for her.
It's sad. Really sad.
And I think it's something we've we've spoken about it, but as
well, I think in a way tennis is, you know, all about
tradition and I don't know, like legacy and all these things.
Very, yeah, like what she said, gentlemanly sport.
But, and we've experienced this on a very small scale, but the
amount of hate that you get from yeah, like keyboard warriors.
And trolls, Totally. Yeah.
I mean, I can't even imagine. We can't imagine, Yeah, the
amount of hate that one gets, Yeah.
And it's like you're playing a sport, but are you opening
yourself up to all of this like hatred and vitriol?
It's it's, I don't think it's fair like someone who's just an
athlete at the end of the day. I know and also their kids when
they start. Out.
Which is like, makes it even worse.
I mean, yeah, I guess she's stepping away, but.
Good for her for choosing herself and knowing the right
time to walk away from something. 100% but I think
yeah, it also, yeah, it just shows that there's a lot more
work to sort of be done in the sport.
And clearly things have to change or, you know, there's an
argument to make for yeah, tennis as a culture changing and
allowing more people into the fold.
And you know, tennis I feel like is in a way, I don't want to say
an elitist sport, but I. Think that's definitely the
reputation it has as well. Yeah.
Yeah, it definitely has that reputation, which, you know,
yeah, it'd be great if we can move away from that because it
doesn't need to be that way, I don't think.
Yeah, definitely. So obviously a lot of what we
talk about is quite light hearted and humorous and jokes
and we like to keep things positive and light.
But we also definitely want to comment on these kinds of news
stories in the sport as well because they're really
important. And we also hope that even
though this has meant destiny, I ever had to like step away from
the sport, that it sort of maybe may nudge things in a more
positive and inclusive direction going forward, right?
Yeah, definitely. I hope this serves as a bit of
an eye opener for tennis in general.
We want it to change and as you said, like be more inclusive.
Absolutely. OK, so now back to what we're
good at, the jokes. We're going to start with our
favorite character on the ATP tour, Daniel Medvedev.
He never fails to disappoint, even though I am slightly
disappointed in him this week because I was proud of him.
As much as I love the jokes, I was proud of him and towards the
end of last season he was, you know, not having these absolute.
Meltdowns. Meltdowns.
Breakdowns. Whenever he was losing a match,
he was trying to find a reason why and like, not taking
ownership, he was just probably having a bad day or playing
terribly. But no, we're back to classic
denial Medvedev, because in his match against Hugo Umber in
Rotterdam, he started having an absolute breakout and meltdown
about the balls. So yeah, Andrea, what was he
saying? Honestly, you and I have been
pissing ourselves about this for the last five days.
The videos of him like the clips of him complaining and having a
complete freak out conniption over and over again.
It's so funny. OK, so he took issue with the
head tennis balls which apparently are very different to
other balls on tour. According to him, they're not
round, they're square. They're not round.
He doesn't think they're round, he goes.
Are they round head balls? Are they round?
Are you sure? Because I see it not round and
then it continues. It goes.
It's a bit strange. So I think maybe we should
consider not playing with head balls.
The Head Tour XT ball is not round, so we should not be
playing with it. Nobody should be buying it.
We should not be promoting a tennis ball that is not round.
The problem is when you touch it with the racket, it does not
react the same way on your shots.
So how do you want us to play tennis?
So that was the first bit then? He freaked out even more.
Yeah, I think that that is pretty.
You know, I feel like he was restrained.
He was. Restrained.
Then he goes. These balls are horrible.
Please delete these fucking balls from this fucking life.
I'm like, you're so dramatic. And the best is like the last
bit. Yeah, the best is this.
Go ahead. These balls are made for people
who love to please, people who love to please with a little bit
of you, said saliva. Which I don't know what that
even. Means me neither.
It's unclear. Oh, to know what goes on in
Danielle. 'S head.
He also then went to proceed to like karate kick the backboard
of the court, like the LED screens.
And I'm like, what is going on? It's just the funniest thing
I've ever seen. Like I can't, but sorry, go
ahead. No, I just think he needs to get
it together. Like he has together.
Yeah, he apparently he does have a point because Demenor also
apparently complained about the balls.
A lot of players were complaining about the balls.
And again, we are not here to comment on like are these balls
correct or not but. My my my only thought is both
players are playing with these. Balls.
Yeah, right. So trick, it's a level playing
field. It's a level playing field.
I mean, I'm curious to see maybe this is enough to get these
balls like, deleted off the tour, as he says, deleted from
this fucking life. Yeah, this really isn't the
episode to stop swearing. But anyways, yeah, I mean,
again, he's brought us great content.
We can try and clip the backboard kick.
It's fucking jokes. But yeah, thanks for providing
us quality entertainment as always.
Yeah, as always, never change, but also change.
Change for your own good, but never change.
Change for your own sanity. Yeah, he and also proceeded to
losing relatively early on. So I think whenever he gets in
these headspaces, it's just not good.
Yeah, but I don't think it's a bad loss for him, like losing
against Zoomberg and indoor like hard court match, but also take
responsibility, you know? Yeah.
That would be some growth and maturity.
Exactly so Yannick Sinners outfits are just the gifts that
keep on giving. He really are.
He debuted a new collection with Nike, Yeah, which apparently is
not going to be sold to the public.
Yeah. I don't fully understand.
I don't know the like marketing behind something like that, but
it's. Basically, they're like bringing
back, or maybe not bringing back like a new that, sorry, an old
line that they used to have called ACG, which is like high
sort of winter sports clothing, I believe.
Yeah. So Nike has this line called
ACG, which is all conditions gear.
And for those of you who don't know, Yannick Sinner was also or
is a really good skier as well. And I think ultimately, when he
was choosing which route to take, it was between tennis and
skiing. Obviously he chose tennis.
But to be quite honest, in terms of the outfits, I think skiing
would have been the better choice because he looks way
better in ski gear. So in tennis gear.
So yeah, he's debuted this past week this new ACG collection,
and I think he looked actually pretty good as opposed to cool
his mattress, right? Yeah, yeah.
He said that he was more involved in this process than
with other brands. Oh, so was he like slagging off?
I think he was kind of indirectly slagging off his
previous, so he can't say like, yeah, match kits, he said.
There were a lot of conversations about what could
be better, what wasn't right, what worked well.
So, OK, he's very subtle. A subtle dig.
But yeah, I think that's his indirect way of saying my
Australian Open match kit was not good.
That's his way of saying it. So he agrees with us, basically.
He agrees with us. He agrees with us.
First he changes shorts to white.
Now he's agreeing with us. What can I say, Anik?
The influence is crazy. I'm kidding.
OK. So, yeah.
Well, to be fair, he's doing pretty well on the tennis thing,
despite the outfit. So he probably did make the
right choice between tennis and skiing.
Yeah, but to be fair, he's. He could probably do both
Skiing. Just a bit dangerous.
I'm sure, I'm sure, yeah. He's a man of many talents.
We love to see it. OK, so enough about the fit
checks. We now have actually some crazy
news to talk about and I am so here for it.
And that is Serena Williams potential return to tennis.
Let's fucking go. I'm so excited because obviously
there's no smoke without fire. I think everyone's probably
heard by now that she has like appeared on wanting to get back
on like the WADA anti doping list.
And you need to clear yourself in order to go back to
competing. There's like a whole process and
I think it can take months and obviously it's hard to keep that
private because it's like public information.
And so apparently she keeps, like, progressing in that
process, which, I mean, I feel like you don't get on that list
if there's no intent, like, unless you've signaled intent.
I think. Yeah, I think she's definitely
plotting A comeback. I mean, maybe that's also just
me saying that because I really want it to be true.
And I think, yeah, caveat, it could be singles, it could be
double S, it could be it, whatever, but it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter. I would love to see her play
double s with her sister. And her sister still hasn't
retired, so we spoke. About how she's kind of like,
still very capable, right? Yeah, still very capable and it
must be hard also retiring from tennis for however many years
her life was torn and travelling it.
Must be. So yeah, it must leave like a
huge void, like, no matter how much you have going on.
I mean, she's Serena Williams. She's got her two kids, a lovely
husband, a great life like all her like.
And so many other like business ventures.
But I think ultimately, when you've grown up and like for so
many years, focused on one thing so intensely, it must be so hard
to just let it go, especially when you're her and your older
sister's still doing it, right. Yeah.
And I think, you know, what probably sets her apart from
other players is like, the reason she's done so well, she's
succeeded. She's probably the greatest, you
know, female or just, yeah, one of the greatest tennis players
of all time is, you know, her passion and love for the sport
100%. I also feel like I feel like
she's probably looking around and she's like, damn, I could
probably still take it to these these girls.
Like I think she really wants to like have another cracker that
record. I mean, I would absolutely die.
I know, I know. This is like all of our
nostalgic prayers answered like one of the Ogs potentially back.
Honestly, they've been coming through for us in 2026.
Yeah, like often they can sort of really hang in the shadows.
But we've had Roger out in Australia, rough out in
Australia, Andre Agones see out in Australia, and now Serena
might actually come back. How cool would that be?
We love it. We love to see.
It so yeah, Serena, if you if you see this or if you hear
this, everyone would die. I'm sure you know that.
But just to further confirm, please be amazing, yes?
So we also can't not talk about the Winter Olympics.
Has to be done. It's only every four years,
after all. And I have loved the Winter
Olympics. It's been so, so fun to watch.
So fun and it gives us the opportunity to watch sports that
you never really think of at another time and which?
Did I think I'd be watching curling on a Friday night?
No, No and. These and it gives us the
opportunity to really appreciate like these athletes that work so
hard 24/7 and only really like get the platform every four
years for like the mainstream platform, the mainstream.
Platform. Yeah, Mainstream platform.
And there's been some really funny things going on there as
well as like some big, big stories as well.
So should we start with the with the joke stories?
The condom story. I mean, what are they doing in
the Olympic Village? I mean, we know what they're
doing in the Olympic Village, but that's kind of insane.
It was, I think. Yeah, they.
Ran out of condoms a few days in.
Day three or something or I don't want to don't call me on
day three, but it was something crazy.
And like I heard like one of the guys like in charge like of the
IO at the IOC being like, yeah, there was 10,000 condoms and
it's 2800 athletes. So do the math.
Go figure. That is kind of crazy, I think.
Wild. That is wild.
But I guess it also makes sense, right?
Like lot of testosterone? There's a lot of testosterone,
but I don't even keep it in. I don't know.
Clearly, you know, good for them.
They that's probably a good way to, I don't know, like release.
Stream as well. Well, yeah, they're clearly
going at it. I mean, yeah, it's not
dissimilar to the the tennis tour.
No, I guess not. Yeah, and I'm talking about the
tennis tour and, like, juniors and, like, challengers.
Yeah, but I feel like everyone's just getting with each other,
like what's going on. It's literally like being in
camp. I mean, I think they've
replenished the stocks now, so I think it's all good.
OK, good. They were trying to find like,
sponsors. That's actually good, good
opportunity. Yeah, I saw a quote from some
athlete being like, they promised us more, we'll arrive,
but we don't know when. I'm like why are they acting
like that's like food shortage at the war or something?
Yeah, they're rationing condom. They're rationing.
That's what it sounds like anyway.
Yeah. Everyone needs to control
themselves. Focus on competition, kids.
OK, Cheating scandal. The cheating scandal, Wow, that
really went viral. That went like zero to 100
viral. I mean, I would be mortified if
I was the ex-girlfriend. Yeah, she spoke anonymously to
Norwegian newspaper and she was just like, it's going to be
really hard to forgive him. And she was very nice.
But yeah, that she didn't ask for any of this.
She doesn't want her name to be public.
Apparently, the Norwegian newspaper has gotten requests
they want. They like people are like, we'll
buy her name or other news sources or by her name.
Yeah, like by her name. So she's not anonymous anymore
so that they know who she. Is Oh, she's anonymous.
Yeah, yeah. No one knows.
I mean no one in the public. House has no one tipped her off?
I don't know. That's crazy.
OK, well, she's got a solid. Group around her OK?
That's interesting. But honestly, yeah, I mean, I
feel like everyone will have heard about this, but do we want
to just give a quick rundown of what happened?
So the Norwegian biathlete Sterla Holm Legrid, apologies if
I've butchered his name on winning bronze medal in the
biathlon, announced that he'd made the biggest mistake of his
life three months ago and cheated on his girlfriend.
Of six months. So three months into a
relationship, he cheated on the love of his life, apparently the
most beautiful woman in the world, and that was his response
to winning the bronze medal. Yeah, I was going to say, wow.
I feel like he was implying like the bronze medal kind of means
nothing if she's not by his side.
Exactly like. Jesus Christ, dude, like you're
with her for six months? I mean, listen, no one knows how
he's feeling, but if I was the girl I'd be pissed.
No, it's, it's, it's insane. I mean, she definitely didn't
ask for this. And he's like, I'm committing
social suicide for you. No, I I'm sure you thought like,
oh, this is a grand gesture that's gonna win her back.
Like so romantic. I'm sorry, but people are just,
yeah, I mean, I kind of feel bad for him now, 'cause.
I know it's it's just. Also, the response has been,
yeah, everyone's just ripping it off and.
She responded anonymously, right?
Yes, yes. So she responded anonymously via
a Norwegian, I don't know, like gossip site or newspaper and
just basically said like, it's going to be really hard to
forgive him. And she didn't ask for this.
So I feel for her. Like, I don't know, I definitely
feel for her. I don't know why why I just said
that with hesitation. I definitely feel for her but he
just gives me the creepers. I don't know.
I know apparently I think I would understand it more if it
was a spur of the moment thing where he was just like he wins
this medal and he's like, Oh my God, I have to, you know, I'm
just thinking about my girlfriend or my ex-girlfriend
who I, you know, cheated on, whatever.
But apparently he planned it. That's something.
Weirder. You planned it, yeah.
OK, Yeah. No, yeah.
I mean, I just, I don't even know like what else to say on
this. I'm just like dude, I don't
know, go home and like think about your actions.
I like don't cheat on your girlfriend if she means so much.
I don't know. And also when I first read the
headline, I was like, OK, surely they've been together for
however many years. Not that I'm saying that like
cheating after eight years is worse than or is better than
cheating after three months. But I'm like, OK, you cheat on
your girlfriend 3 months into a very new relationship like that
is that's a lot, you know? Yeah.
And then to make such a thing I mean.
To make such a thing. Also I read that a year ago, I
think it was the World Cup or something at some tournament.
He was also competing obviously in the biathlon and he had a
different girlfriend at the time and he refused to see her in the
weeks leading up to the tournament because he didn't
want to get sick. OK, he's.
He's with, like, crucial distance from his.
Yeah, he sounds a little office rocker.
Yeah, honestly. And yeah, a little manipulative
and maybe, I mean, most definitely not, not a good
boyfriend. So yeah, we don't approve.
And he took the spotlight from his Norwegian teammate, who won
the goal. See.
That's not cool. That's another thing that I, I,
I don't, I don't love that. And no, I mean, last episode we
said no publicity is bad publicity, but I don't love this
publicity for him. And also, apparently another one
of their Norwegian teammates died in December in a really
tragic accident. And yeah, and that's not, you
know, and this was. Not receiving nearly as much.
No, no, no, no, no. And someone who was one of his
best friends. OK.
I think final call here is back in your box and just like.
Yeah, yeah, I know. It's I'm trying to.
Steal the limelight with your relationship drama.
OK, so enough of the drama and like the silliness.
We also would love to just touch on a few of the biggest
storylines that have interested us over these last 10 days or so
at the Winter Olympics. Sort of three storylines that
have interested us the most on the ice slash snow at the Winter
Olympics. So I think we should start with
Lindsey Vonn. So tragic, so sad how she
obviously crashed like pretty much not the first turn, but
like the third turn in the downhill on like day two of the
entire competition, which is really sad.
And obviously she is on the older side.
I'm guessing it would have been her last shot at an Olympic
medal. I don't know.
She did really well in qualifying.
She was, yeah. She was also a favorite for the
medal and she crashed early on in the downhill and it was hard
to watch. I couldn't watch it.
Really tough to watch. And obviously she started
already knowing that she had an ACL injury, right?
But this had nothing to do with that.
I think she just got really unlucky and her pole hit one of
the gates and she just completely.
Yeah, insane. Poor woman.
Well, obviously now we know she's she got airlifted out and
is got flown to like Innsbruck, which is kind of crazy as well,
like, you know, to a specialist clinic and has had all the
surgeries and now I think she has like a complete tibia break,
which is insane. Yeah, I just I don't know how
you wake up in the morning and are like, yeah, let's become a
downhill skiers scary. It's.
So scary, any of these. Sports.
Like any of these sports, yeah. When you watch them go down,
they reach speeds of like 90 miles an hour.
Crazy women. It's just, it's insane.
It's insane. And the way that they jump, I'm
like, this is the most treacherous thing.
It's hard to watch because you're kind of expecting them
to, like, eat shit, you know, always.
It's like, how do they? And I feel like you have to be a
little bit. Yeah, you have to be very brave
to get into that. So brave.
I mean, yeah, you have to be cut from a very specific type of
clothes. Yeah.
I think any Olympic, winter Olympic sport, apart from
curling, it's chilling. Curling is like, yeah, so like
it's literally like you have every like life threatening
sport and curling and curling Anyway, we obviously wish her
the speedest of recoveries and she's a GOAT, so yeah.
Ilya Malinin, the quad God, the favorite for the Gold in figures
game. He crashed twice in his
freestyle routine. It was also a really hard watch.
Yeah, it was honestly pretty devastating.
I was devastated for him. He has a gold in the team event.
I don't know, it's it was just so sad for him.
There's been so much build up, so much anticipation.
So much hype. He coined his own nickname of
Quad God because he's the first figure skater to land a
quadruple axle ever in a competition.
So OK, so he didn't walk away empty handed.
We love that for him at least. But obviously this hit him
really hard and it was clearly a big choke mentally.
It was a massive choke, right? He ended 8th.
After being the favorite, yeah. He was going to, yeah, win by a
lot. He was going to gold by a lot in
the lead up tournaments, World Cup, everything, you know, he'd
won gold. So it was a massive choke on his
end and poor guy. Poor guy.
He's only 21. It's his first Olympics.
OK, fine, he has some other shots.
He has some other shots. Figure skating.
Yeah, figure skating. There's not much longevity.
Or no, not at all. People are retire very, very
young. So I think there's one figure
skater who's 26, and she's like, I'm the grandma of, you know, of
the Olympics basically in figure skating because, yeah, by 26,
most, most Figure skaters have retired.
Crazy. OK, well, sorry for him.
That's really sad. Poor guy.
I know, I feel, I know. It shows like the mental side of
sport again. Yeah, how brutal it is, Yeah.
When you put so much, when there's so much pressure on you
and so much self-imposed pressure as well.
Yeah, I feel he just couldn't do it.
And the response has been, yeah, for the most part, very
supportive of him. So hopefully he can come back
next Olympics even stronger and get the gold.
We're rooting for you. Here we go, Team USA.
Scotty James, the two time Olympic medalist, also had a
really tough snowboard in in snowboarding.
Huffpipe Australian, Australian most decorated Australian Winter
Olympian. He was going for the gold a few
days ago in the halfpipe final. He yeah, has a bronze medal and
a silver medal. And it was, he said that his
North Star was the gold medal basically like leading up to it.
That's all. That's this is all he wanted,
his first in qualifying and fell just short of a gold medal.
He, in his third run, did a new trick, a really complicated
jump, and if he'd landed it, he would have gotten gold.
And he just missed it and had to settle for silver.
But it was also a really hard watch.
He was crying. It was devastating for him.
It would have been such a great story.
He has a great documentary on Netflix, sports documentary.
So yeah. Check it out, it's called pipe.
Dream. Yeah, Yeah.
Yeah, I love that. But I also, I I love him because
he's just, he's jokes. He's jokes.
We love humour on this podcast. And I mean, his tick tock is
hilarious. I love his bromance with Daniel
Ricardo, the F1 driver. Who introduced him to his wife?
Exactly. Yeah, Yeah.
So. Yeah, we love him, but he's such
a good sport. He was really positive about in
the end, he was like, I'm going to take a few days, I'll
probably cry, but you know, I'll get back.
And he kind of alluded to the fact that he'll probably be back
next Winter Olympics. Yeah, let's hope so.
So, so I think ultimately what this shows is that in these like
types of, I mean, I'm going to call them extreme sports because
to me, they're extreme. Yeah.
It all comes down to like a split second, really.
Yeah. I mean, you're kind of, I don't
want to say you're battling the elements, but you kind of are.
Yeah. I don't know.
So intense you're out there in the.
Cold. Cold.
Like these brutal conditions. Snow, Yeah.
Yeah, it's the Winter Olympics to me.
I watch them like, yeah, in such awe of the athletes.
It's incredible. And they're really like
dangerous, high stakes sports. Like, one wrong move and you
know you're out. Yeah, you're out.
I mean, it's been fun to have them on.
It's been a good like, I mean, we've been really lucky.
Like it's really helped us sort of deal with our Post Australian
Open Blues. Well, right, Well, I feel like
there's plenty to come. This year there was plenty to
come. I love the Olympics so much and
I especially the Winter Olympics.
Yeah, and I. Love, fun to watch like.
I mean, I guess for both of us, Germany is doing pretty well,
but Greece and Spain, it's not really our best moment for our
country. But that's why I love the
Olympics, is to like, you know, get that, like national spirit
going. It's great.
I love it. So yeah, we're big fans of the
Olympics. On what's it called?
So with that, should we do one final call to end the episode?
Let's do it. Let's do it.
I'm going to pose the question. So when careers are decided by
split seconds and single points, how much of elite sport is a
skill and how much is surviving the moment?
We need to weigh in on this. It's a deep question.
So it might not be that quick of
a call, but still a final call. Let's go.
I would say 5050 like you have to have oh, you.
Need to have the talent and the skill and the.
Athletic ability and the Yeah. But I think what really makes
like champions is the mentality of it.
Like, you can have so much talent and natural ability and
you can put in so much work, but if in those moments you can't
perform, yeah. I think you've pretty much
summed it up, but I I also think that you can give yourself an
edge if you really work on like your the mental.
Yeah, I think it's really worth the investment on the mental
side, like getting a sports psychologist, like really
unpicking your brain almost. And like I use visualization for
like my normal ass day job to like think ahead through
presentations or whatever. But I think that it can really
make a massive difference in professional sports generally,
be it these crazy winter sports or tennis or anything else.
I think that I think that you can get yourself an edge if you
work on that. Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, OK, Well, that hard hitting take.
Athletes, listen up, invest in your mental capacity.
It'll help you. And you can thank us later.
You know, we're just trying to wrap up an episode here on a on
a high note and a hopeful note. There is hope, but yeah, we will
be back with another interview next week.
So TuneIn, it'll be a fun one. We're very excited for it.
And until then, enjoy your week and we will see you then.
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